Persistent Jet Contrails

00:00 I told her she was spewing old propaganda! Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, December 5th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 258. This is no agenda. Tracking the persistent jet con trails here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning. I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it looks like the weather is taking a turn for the worse. Now maybe not I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Alright I'm not quite sure what that was. Oh maybe. I don't know I didn't plan anything. I have to actually write stuff down if I want to be sure. That was like a really bad zoo opening. Well maybe the weather's taking a turn for the worse everybody. Our opening is a bad zoo opening.

00:56 Hey in the morning to you John in the morning to you Adam and all ships at sea and all boots on the ground and our human Resources who are in the chat room right now as we do the show live at no agenda chat dotnet charged up and ready to go exactly the way their government loves them because we're collecting body parts he realized he's probably spend more time with that little diddy on the one sailor who actually listens to this show and the two guys that happen to be in a trench somewhere and You know, I wouldn't be so cavalier about it. I have a feeling that we've got a lot of boots on the ground and I think we have more ships at sea than you realize. Everyone in the Gulf of Aden's like, yo! Yo, it's on! You can stop, you can stop! Get your fishing nets out! The Stargate is opening, they're on again! Here come the fish. Somebody's gotta restock the fish. Yeah. Uh-huh.

01:50 Oh my goodness. Everything's beeping here. So yeah. We have quite a few executive producers for today's show, so I want to get those out of the way so we can get to the meat of the show. Well, this is a good thing. Yeah, well, it is a good thing for us. Okay. So first of all, we want to thank our old pal, the Sir, our number one patron, as a matter of fact, Stephen Pelsmacher from Awans, Belgium. From where in Belgium? I thought it was from Antwerp. Oh, Alwanz? That's what it says on this thing. Who knows? I mean, somebody's moaning about the PayPal being inaccurate with everything. But anyway, Sir Pelsmarkers gave 6-12-10 and he has a note that you're going to read part of which explains it. Okay.

02:39 Cinterklaas kapoentje, leg wat in hun schoentje, leg wat in hun laarsjes, want Adam en John zijn hele goeie baasjes. So today is December 4th is traditionally in Gitmo Nation Lowlands the day when all children put their boots outside for the good Saint Nicholas to drop... Steal! Steal their boots! In the USA that's what would happen. Steal their boots off the ground. No, the good Saint Nicholas. Now this is actually kind of interesting because I think it's today the fourth or the fifth? No, it's the fourth, right? So the fifth... Today it's actually the fifth. Yesterday was the fourth. Is today the fifth? Well then I screwed it all up, didn't I?

03:26 I said December 4th, it's December 5th. Oh you mean at the opening of the show? Yes. Oh how about that? Yeah, gee what a surprise. So December 5th is traditionally the day when the kids put their boots on the ground outside and then the good Saint Nick who rides a white horse and he arrives on a steamship from Spain with his black Pete's which now has become incredibly politically incorrect he no longer has black Pete's I think they've they've written them out of the script but they used to be just black Pete's and and these people it's a black Pete well he's a black dude that you got like the head Pete

04:07 His name is Pete, so they're called Peets, Black Peets. And he got the head Pete, and he's in charge of all the other Peets. And they run around and they terrorize the children. So if you've been bad, then they hit you with sticks and shove you in a burlap bag. and take you back to... This is a terrible story. This is what it is. But it's a big party. It's a big... Oh, my... Sorry. Yeah, with all the kids out of the way, the parents can go drinking. Yeah, it's a big drinking party for parents. Now you got it. So, but that's their version of Santa Claus, because they don't really have a Santa Claus. We have the Sinterklaas who comes on the steamship from Spain with his black beast. Why is he coming from Spain? Because Spain used to rule all of the world. It's a throwback. It's crazy. It's totally crazy, believe me. And of course now we basically have Christmas in the lowlands. They probably got Santa Claus walking around too.

05:02 and then you know by the funniest thing with you and your a dad discussing that sort of thing is if you go down to uh... rio uh... in december and uh... you're floating around brazilite which is in the middle of this is like the hottest time of the year it is boiling it's like a hundred degrees and there's all these santa claus is with the reindeer and they well that was that that is kind of like los angeles is weird that way to and and it turns out We're in one of those streets where we have two neighbors at war with all house wars with the light stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah That's great. It's we saw it happen We saw because of course there's our first Christmas here and we saw one side like wow This guy's got some lights going and then on the other side and now I said the Mickey yes He said I think our house is perfect for I think we can do a sleigh and

05:55 and uh, and it went reindeer on the roof and uh, oh, Mickey says I'm totally fucking up the synth story. Well, what am I doing wrong? She just texted me. She's listening? Yeah, of course she's listening. She's in the car. She's on the way to a meeting. A meeting? Yeah. Sunday for God's sake. Yeah, she works hard, man. But alright, so I guess I took all the romance out of the story. Well you could add, we can tell the story next week when we get closer to Christmas, or I guess it would be farther away from December 2nd, which is I guess when, or the 3rd or the 5th, I don't know. No, the 5th, and then... I don't know man, I'm from America. We always thought it was, and by the way this Sinterklaas, he's, so he also wears like a red robe.

06:42 He's got a robe. Oh yeah, pedo. Hey kids. He's got a pointy hat and he's got a big stick. Big staff I got a stick for you big staff for you kids, but he's very thin He's not fat like Santa Claus is very skinny guy. That's more like it if he has way he has pant legs Tape to you just the bottom of some short pants tape to his legs But it's it's cute so actually and so what the family tradition is and this is kind of nice is is you all draw, so the big family comes together, usually not just household family, and then you'll draw lots before, like a couple weeks before, you'll draw a name out of the hat, and then you get the name on a piece of paper, and then you have to go buy something for that person and turn it into a surprise.

07:37 uh... with a uh... with a poem which is about that problem but it but but you don't ever so really say all this is from me so you bet is what you do this is an office yet this is been transposed into an american tradition of doing that in the office where they don't want everybody buying everybody i guess right you did i right grab bag very very and somebody invariably gets a box of candies that they don't want well the well the the funny thing is is that there's always some joker who puts together a huge box Right? And then you get this huge box as a present and then you have to go through like wood chips and molasses. Well, box after box. Molasses and all kinds of weird crap in there. It's hilarious. And then at the bottom there's like a gift certificate.

08:24 I but I I'm sure all the listeners and get my nation lowlands are very disappointed with my explanation however in the true spirit of the sinterklaas faced and giving Sir Stephen Pels markers has supported the show with six hundred and twelve dollars and sixty cents and that is in honor of December 6, 2010 written European style which is also simultaneously the first down payment on a dame hood for his godchild Ruby. Wow, good. And Stephen, as far as I'm concerned, you are Sinterklaas, my friend. He could be. Who knows? I mean, we've run the numbers. He is without a doubt the top supporter of the show. He is the George Soros of No Agenda.

09:17 Exactly! And he's never ever asked us to do anything for him. Ever. I don't think. No, he's never, he hasn't even asked for a de-douching. She's long beyond needing one. Yeah, let me hand him a, he needs a massive de-douche. Oops, sorry, wrong one. You've been de-douched. And while I'm at it... That was, that did nothing. He douched, he gave a douche and a de-douche. He's a de-douche. There's a de-douche. And I'm gonna hand out some karma to him at the same time. You've got karma. Well, talking about douchebags.

09:52 uh... art next exit we have to thank you sir sir steven by the way thank you thank you so much goes without saying uh... stud tailors to it by when he would be a standalone executive producer along with taylor stewart who gave us four two four two four from cal uh... calabasas california and he says he's been a douche bag for way too long despite good intentions is not gonna rise finally he loves to show his girlfriend that love the in him love the combination of light heartedness and on and on but he says he needs karma for his girlfriend she had a horrific run-in with the police oh no in Los Angeles and we all know that they're the one of the worst police departments around it was it is another terrible they're one of the worst police departments around and where do you live again Adam

09:17 Exactly! And he's never ever asked us to do anything for him. Ever. I don't think. No, he's never, he hasn't even asked for a de-douching. She's long beyond needing one. Yeah, let me hand him a, he needs a massive de-douche. Oops, sorry, wrong one. You've been de-douched. And while I'm at it... That was, that did nothing. He douched, he gave a douche and a de-douche. He's a de-douche. There's a de-douche. And I'm gonna hand out some karma to him at the same time. You've got karma. Well, talking about douchebags.

09:52 uh... art next exit we have to thank you sir sir steven by the way thank you thank you so much goes without saying uh... stud tailors to it by when he would be a standalone executive producer along with taylor stewart who gave us four two four two four from cal uh... calabasas california and he says he's been a douche bag for way too long despite good intentions is not gonna rise finally he loves to show his girlfriend that love the in him love the combination of light heartedness and on and on but he says he needs karma for his girlfriend she had a horrific run-in with the police oh no in Los Angeles and we all know that they're the one of the worst police departments around it was it is another terrible they're one of the worst police departments around and where do you live again Adam

10:39 It was scary as hell and is a perfect story to demonstrate the extent to which the public servants have been brainwashed to believe we law-abiding citizens are the enemy. What happened? What happened? What happened? I want to tell the whole story after the case is won. He's apparently in court here. We're talking about some big money. This typical of these municipalities, they the people run rampant they get sued they don't care cuz it's the taxpayers money there'll be some huge settlement and it's too bad nobody gets fired nobody gets called on the carpet nobody cares to the taxpayers near the taxpayers eat and they don't care cuz they can't keep track of this time what happened

11:16 He didn't say he won't tell us in for a while, but he's gonna make his donation in two parts. The 120.31 is significant to the count case, the court case, you can probably look it up, and the 30393 when added to the first donation equals 42424. I don't know. We'll find out so do we need to do a douchebag for the Los Angeles? No, he needs a karma thing for his girlfriend. Okay, there you go karma coming at you. You've got karma Wow well I'm gonna have to look up what 120.31 means Wow, geez anyway, so that's one of our listeners. That's guts that girlfriends in trouble or got in trouble and suing Good good good for her mark coolin now. We got a couple associate executive producer mark. I think it's colon colon mark colon colon colon in van who's in a loser nether then he'd never fennhausen fennhausen yeah, just say it already and

12:17 Finhausen. Finhausen, the Netherlands. Another Dutchman. 258, he's in the 258 club. We have three this week. Oh wow. Hello AC and John. Let me be your Sinterklaas. Your life changers indeed. Keep it up. Long time producer here. Dollar a show on top of monthly five bucks subscription. So we're putting him in the, is he an associate executive and in the 258 club? Is that how we run this? he's in the associate associate producer so she's a good reason he's in the two fifty eight club yeah okay there's only three members in the two fifty eight club in their role only be three members ever uh... he by the way uh... he has something genetically unmodified seeds go to seed care dot com

13:03 Charles Jordan from Milwaukee. Sir Charles I believe. Sir Charles, I'm sorry sir Charles. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 258. Happy birthday to Dame Carol. We'll get to that later. He's the world famous Mai Tai's waiting at foundationbar.com. And by the way, there is a I don't want to tell people how to make drinks, but there is a weird, Ocali Howe, I think is the name of it, it's called Ocali Howe. It is a, A weird liqueur made from tea leaves but not the tea that you drink leaves, it's a tea eye which is some unedible thing. And it's available, it's a Hawaiian beverage that will knock your head off if you actually drank it. And it's used as the secret ingredient in a lot of Mai Tais.

13:57 So take a look for it, it's got a weird label, it's called Ocali Howe. I can send you a picture if you want. I think you should think about adding this little tidbit to your... Another tip from your friends at No Agenda for getting hammered. 258 from Captain Underpants in Lake Forest, Illinois. It's his daughter's favorite series of books. Finally, she says, see how... Wait, wait, there's a book series called Captain Underpants? Apparently. For little girls? I don't know. I'm putting the finishing touches on a new bomb detector I'll be selling to the TSA. It uses body cavity, anus and sinus holography to extract crystal clear imagery of bombs in the body.

14:41 Nice. Hey, we're in. We're totally in. Let's know if we want to invest. He's currently negotiating with the current TSA director John Pistoli to represent us in Congress. We won't even need him to resign from his current position. We'll just provide him with a separate cell phone so he can call his own office from outside of the building. Obviously Captain Underpants has been drinking the O'Cauley. He's all over that. And that's actually it for today's executive and associate executive producers. They all came in at a high number. Okay. A couple of brief PR mentions before we move on. I would like to thank Kirk.

15:22 From producer Kirk from Dayton, Tennessee now PR associate who has been able to get the media assassin logo on wiki leaks for about an hour somehow he Sent a screenshot. I guess he got some ads rotating. I didn't know they did ads but Oh, it was the Facebook version. Okay Facebook show for the Facebook something version of WikiLeaks or whatever. So that was good. He sent a screenshot and I think that certainly in these days that works. Along those lines our friend from Vajazzling.com has placed, has done outstanding work and has created banners for the No Agenda show in the stylings of Jimmy Wales and they are currently running on NoAgendaIP.com. They're great by the way.

16:12 You've seen him John. Yeah. Yeah, I want to use one on my blog. Yeah, it's like we're there for a personal appeal Like and we're gonna get laid out of it, too. I guarantee you yeah, I got a nice picture from sir Sir Randy Asher the he has a box filled with the boarding pass lanyards They are in so I guess the official boarding passes will be coming will be forthcoming soon, which is good. I And by the way, we have the two 1010 coins. Eric now has them and he will be shipping them out to everyone who ordered one. And we also are going to make good on our own dime. We are? Okay, what are we making good? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Say it again? We're going to, there's about 20 or 30 people that did not get the original coin. Oh, which of course no longer exists. Well, yes, right, right, well, well, that's...

17:13 I hate that it's possible that we can have a few more made. Okay, because we're asking them Eric is doing this by the way. You should thank him profusely. Thank you Eric He's been asking the people what they want if they want a refund which you know is is Not you know as you do you want a refund? I mean you got to do something or do you want to know you still want the coin and almost everybody still wants the coin Because this coin is like so so we're gonna maybe have another Right is still keep it within the total number of coins. It's not in other words. You're not gonna run more coins, right? It's just a point these guys ordered they didn't get we're gonna have to have made hmm special thanks to PR associate Sean Maysak who Wrote a very nice article about us on examiner.com. I don't know if you saw that John nope Title no agenda makes podcasting relevant and profitable. I don't know about the last part well

18:12 He did say he does talk about our value for value proposition in the piece, which is really nice and See that I thought one line was really nice here under I thought was it Here it is Kareem Dvorak may be the first professional podcasters to make a living it should have been in quotes that are in parentheses although a very sparse one doing a show that is this is nice doing a show that is truly independent insightful and listener supported what he really does get into the whole light the whole fact that you know we there's no one pulling yank in our chain because we don't take money from commercial entities

18:59 So I thought that was very nice. Then finally... And by the way, people should realize that it does make a difference. Oh, hello. I mean it really makes a huge difference. I mean there's certain things you just can't do when you're getting money from somebody. Precisely because you're their slave. Yeah, and then I'd like to say hi and thanks to Sigma producer Sigma who has created a bat signal for Linux machines and I will place a link to his github project in the show notes of no agenda show.com the app uses HTTPS to connect to Twitter so it's secure in that sense and should be stable no bugs and

19:40 He's a full-time college student finals on the year, so he says hey It's a simplistic little thing, but it works so essentially when I send out the bat signal now everyone running Ubuntu or any other form of Linux will also receive the bat signal on their on their Linux device, which is cool. I like that It's the more people hook into this the better I think So we highly appreciate that. And of course, thanks to our executive producer, standalone executive producer for this episode, Sir Stephen Pelsmacher, Taylor Stewart, Sir Charles Jordan, and Cap Munderpants, this episode's associate executive producer. I'm sorry, Taylor, I've messed it up, Taylor Stewart. Did I get it all right?

20:26 Yeah, I did. They're also in the 258 club and Mark Colon. There we go. And that's the one I was missing. Of course, this is an official credit and you can put it anywhere. Official credits are accepted with the only difference being unlike Hollywood, we will actually vouch for you when you call up and you won't have to just talk to our secretary. Everybody else out there, you can support us by doing this simple thing, propagating our formula. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And that's it for today's show yeah really back again next week oh No, not really I got plenty of stuff for today was a good week I I had you know Kevin the blade the intern that I've been able to hire thanks to the support of people on the show

21:26 Has been working on the big app show so I had a lot of time to do stuff, and I think it's gonna pay off I think. Well, I didn't get that much accomplished. I mean, I ended up watching a lot of C-SPAN. Mm-hmm. Got a, got, followed a very good exposition on the Arab lobby, which brought up to, unfortunately, the guy was, gave a long hour speech. I only got a couple of clips that are worth, I mean, I could condense down, but it did, it just confirmed our normal beliefs that we have here on this show as part of our, I guess our generalized theses about certain people like Bill Clinton for example. And in fact, I don't know if you want to get into that now or later if you have something that's really hot. I mean, the one thing I do want to mention at the top of the show, which is the fact that Ron Paul came out in support of WikiLeaks saying that the truth is the way things should, people should be oriented toward the truth and he can't understand why everybody's upset about this.

22:28 there's one and i want to ask about that ought to be and payland by the way i want to mention everybody out there that when surveys are done with the original tea party group and they said who should be president they all said ron paul and then nobody ever heard of payland having anything to do with the tea party now she's taking it over hijackers but if he said the poor guy uh... the song you should be true tried for treason he's not even american So, first of all, and I think Congressman Paul is absolutely right, however, what I took a little bit of offense towards is the way the message has been changed in blogs and articles is Ron Paul takes a stand and supports Julian Assange. That is not exactly what he did.

23:11 He did not say Assange is a good guy. He said the truth is always good to get out there. He said something very very different. But every single email I received about it is, oh you know, the titles literally are, let me see if I can find one of these titles. literally is a that's interesting Ron Paul supports Julian Assange backs. Yeah, that's true He was more or less supporting that a concept. Yes, exactly. Exactly. I think he's ever met Julian Assange No, I you know well, let's just stay on this for just a second if you don't mind the ministry of truth because It's it's a it's a very difficult

23:49 topic for our listening group because the whole idea of someone taking government documents putting them out there and leaking the documents and there's obviously some interesting stuff in there not much that I don't think we've discussed or at least presumed on this program and has turned out to be pretty much confirmed from these leaks but when we come down on Wikileaks and Julia's and Assange and say well you know the guy is clearly being is a front for either CIA or military industrial complex people get confused and I want to see if I can put this into some context and I actually have some audio that may help a little bit

24:34 And the first thing is when we say that someone is a front, I don't think it's actually like Julian Assange meets on the park bench with the guy with the newspaper handing him his, you know... Although... It could be. It could be. But it's more like SimCity. Okay, so there are people who play the real game of Sim City or Farmville Maybe that's an even better example for you And you know you you you plant stuff you put your sprouts in you do your thing and then people do things as behaviors and the model of Sim City You know says well you may have too many small businesses therefore your economy won't grow fast enough You need some big businesses, and you need to borrow money

25:20 and they play this and they play people and they do it in a number of ways and I was listening to an interview with Julian Assange he was interviewed by the Economist and this was an on-camera interview of course the interview was completely chopped up and has been edited so you know who the hell knows that's always you gotta be very careful with those things but This was right after the first round of leaks, the Iraq videos and all the documents about 19,000 more people, servicemen and women being killed in foreign wars than was reported.

26:03 And so what they do with the economists is they have this tea time and they sit down, they have tea with someone. This is their little, it's their little cute, cutesy way of interviewing. Oh, it's time to sit down and have some tea. And I want you to listen very, very carefully. I have three clips here. uh... and it really shows you how it works and what we can't lease is all about and then when you after you've heard this to start realizing that it it is all is not what it seems to be uh... and you can easily be hoodwinked by what you think is a a purely uh... good move by a group who really stands for freedom of press etc so the first thing in the this is an amazing piece of audio

26:48 And I'm sure his mission has not changed in the past few months since the first release. Listen to what he says about how they... uh... how these documents are actually leaked and words do matter in this. How would you characterize the response to the publication and has it had the impact that you anticipated? We can look at two kinds of response. We can look at the media response and then the response by governments and other people. I think it's still a bit too early to look at the second in detail. That's still coming out. But for the media response, our initial publishing group have got... Now, did you hear what he just said?

27:26 Boy, it's hard to understand him. He says our initial media publishing group, he's speaking of the mainstream media who actually, and you'll find this out in a moment, who are actually the true recipients of the leaks. He speaks of them as his editorial, and he by the way is the editor. Everything's about edit, edit, edit. But he says the the media group his media group that's the one that that does he refer that in this case He's referring to the like the Guardian. Yeah, he'll actually say it listen to this listen and listen to how proud he is of his media group response our initial publishing group of Guardian New York Times and The Spiegel pushed very strongly on this

28:08 So our initial media group pushed very strongly on this. He's an extensive editorial space, so Guardian did 14 pages in the paper, The Spiegel 17 pages, and of course we had the cover of New York Times as well. So there's a strong initial acceptance by our group of the importance of this material. Subsequently looking at Google News today, I see there are over 6,000 stories on this topic. So he's very proud of his initial publishing group. And I just think that the words matter in this one, you know, it's like, okay, so is that what does that mean initial publishing group? Is that the group that you selected? Is it the group that you've been in cahoots with? And he actually answers it.

28:50 when he talks about what their true mission is. Their true mission now, this is Julia Assange and I think this is really important. Where did you get this? Again, this is from an Economist interview where they said, I did the whole lead in, where were you? Were you like, clipping your nails? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, but where was it? I never saw any, I don't see audio on the Economist website. Oh, well I have the link in the show notes, noagendashow.com, you can look at it yourself. It's about 10 minutes and it's edited but this is directly from him. So listen to this. I understand that when you first launched Wikileaks, or when it first began, that the idea was that you put stuff out there and it would be raw material for people to comment on and bloggers would seize upon it because they didn't have their own people on the ground in Afghanistan or Baghdad, but that didn't work.

29:36 and that you had to do this other thing instead of taking your material and releasing it to mainstream media organizations. Do you hear this? Yeah, I'm listening. This is probably the clearest example of that. So we still need people to go through it and do the sifting and make a story out of this. You can't just do dumping of data online. That's right. That has been our experience. We see actually that The professional press has a nose for what a story will be. Now, this goes against everything I ever thought WikiLeaks was trying to propagate. So what I'm understanding now, and he continues in a moment, is we tried just doing raw data dumps and have people sift through it and come up with stuff. That didn't work apparently. So they changed course and they decided to leak it to the press

30:32 to their publishing group because they seem to have a nose for what a story will be. Who is this guy working for? He is admitting literally that he works with the press to come up with the story. The general public becomes involved once there is a story, once there is an issue of the day, and then can come forward and help mine the material. But they're not incentivized to do that until they see what the story is. And our goal is, of course, not to just have people reading documents. Our goal is to achieve political reforms through... Ah, political reform. They're a political group. Am I just hearing this the wrong way, John?

31:15 Well, when he says our goal is to achieve political reforms... That sounds to me like he's a political group. Yeah. Okay. the sources who come to us firstly will protect them through legal, political and technical means. Secondly, we'll try and get the greatest possible impact with the material. You talk about your goal being political reform. Critics say that releasing this sort of information helps the Taliban, that the Mullahs are the winners here. Which critics? This is a criticism of what you're doing online. Columnists are saying this, some journalists are saying this. All right, so be careful because are we talking about Nobel Prize winners or are we talking about right-wing bloggers? Well, whoever they are.

31:58 So now he's like, you know, who said that, you know, some right-wing blogger or a Nobel Prize winner? Very confusing to me, but it all becomes very very clear when it turns out that they actually edit these documents they edit them then give them to the mainstream media. Yeah I know I think that's well known fact. Well yeah but then he says something else that's really weird. The White House that this is a threat to security and then other analysts are saying that actually there's nothing that new here and that if you've been following this at all that you won't be surprised by by this there's just a lot more detail. What do you think about that? No, this is just typical nonsense from analysts who can't actually be bothered to read the material. How do they know there's nothing new there? 91,000 reports. Did they read 91,000 reports? Even our journalistic team only read in detail around 2,000 reports. And the stories that you're seeing come from that. We just see the Canadian press... So they don't actually read all the reports, is what I'm hearing there.

33:01 it not now but here which contradicts the idea that they that they blue lines well here it is a political historical or ethical significance and was not self-authored provided it meets that criteria it will then go through a harm minimization process. Oh, harmonization process oh it goes through a harmonization process. Self-authored. Provided it meets that criteria it will then go through a harm minimization process to make sure that the outcome of it is not to cause harm, but is in fact likely to cause a good effect. Once that is done, we publish the entire material. I don't know. I found this very disturbing that they edit it, they take out stuff that may be harmful to people. What's the point? And then they hand it off to mainstream media. I just don't understand how it's supposed to work. It doesn't sound like this is a big dump of data. It just doesn't.

34:03 And then you know you get these reports coming out which was actually kind of funny. This report hit the wires today. US considered arresting noted CIA asset Ahmet Wali Karzai for drug running. And of course we've been talking about Karzai's brother for a long time that he's the biggest drug runner. He owns the Toyota dealership and the plant and all that stuff. But then you read the actual cable that this came from, it doesn't say that at all. It just doesn't. It just says, you know, well, we should sanction people who might be involved in drug running like Karzai by not taking pictures with him with officials. Like, please. That's it? That's arresting noted CIA asset? I mean, it's

34:54 what you're reading in the mainstream media is not necessarily a direct translation of what is in these supposed wiki leaks. It's just not. And you can look at it. I put all the source material, all the links in the show notes. And by the way, I should remind students out there that they should use our show notes to write papers. Yeah, and a paper should be written about this. And then everyone's bitching about the government this, the government that. But meanwhile, it is the commercial companies like Amazon who are trying to shut these guys down. The government's not shutting them down. It's commercial companies that you deal with and buy from every single day. Where's the outrage against that? So I'm concerned about one aspect of the last clip, and I'm trying to make the association as I was doing some typing. If I'm not mistaken, the concept of harmonization is an intelligence agency concept. Thank you.

35:52 And did this which is brings up because I don't think anyone would use that word out of the blue. I agree. I mean, I was you ever used it. I tried to harmonize Mickey the other day. Yeah, well, that's another story. Yeah, didn't work out. uh... you know i still i'm sticking with our thesis that there's a uh... he's either a uh... frontman or a an agent or something and by the time i might not even be a sick could be m by six and the only reason i say that is because he sounds like a guy did the does it sound like an australian and he still has the basic australian accent but he's picking up that british kind of mumbling style of speech

36:38 uh... that is very unusual in australia i mean you know i maybe just really listens we have quite a few m when we want to talk about that in a little while uh... can't can disagree with me on this but it but this kind of the hard to understand mumbling beneath your breath bubble or mobile mobile is extremely british and uh... which mhm might makes me wonder i mean how is is it that you know cuz we always say everything c i a c i a c a could not be doing half of anything because MI6 is extremely active and as is the IS or was it ISSI the Pakistani Secret Service ISI?

37:17 And the Indian secret, the intelligence agency in India is extremely active, more so than the Pakistanis and they don't get talked up at all. And then there's the KGB or whoever they're now called, they got a new name. Now do you know the background of Assange? You know, Assange apparently would have been able to read and there's actually, I put a link into the, oh my mic is a little weird today. Put a link into the complete idiots guide to wiki leaks latest document dump which is kind of an interesting document So apparently this guy was raised in a cult-like atmosphere where? I'm crapping out here. I'm like some cult-like family. Whoa Yeah, where his his step is northern Sonoma County No, I lost you

38:10 Something's very wrong. Hold on. What the fuck? Hello? Now I can barely hear you. Yeah, I... Sounds like you're, uh... I'm breaking up, John. I'm breaking up. I'm breaking up. I'm over Hawaii. Hello? Hello? Yeah, you have a loose wire. That's not a Skype breakup. You may need a new cable. No, it's not a cable. It's something else. Hmm. Okay, well, make a note.

38:53 sounds like a post-production issue coming up. No, it sounds like dust in a meter somewhere. Now you're okay. Yeah, we'll see if it works now. No, this cult place, his stepfather would give LSD to the kids and then lock him in a dark room. Yeah, you haven't heard about this? Oh, no, yeah. This is terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like some... Hey, can I recommend to you out there listening to the show, you do not give kids LSD and lock them in a dark room. It's not a good policy, I tell you. It's not the thing you want to do. No, this is a very well-known story from Australia. Well, it wasn't that well-known to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:43 Yeah, so we see one of the kids locked in a dark room apparently and then you see old old pictures of these kids and they all have like these weird Fishbowl like haircuts and they're all which he kind of still has you know and and I don't know I don't know much but Locking your kids in a dark room after giving them LSD could disrupt them later in life Anyway, I actually tweeted this yesterday. He keeps insisting there's no 9-11 conspiracy conspiracy The 9-11 truth movement is just a distraction. So these are all this Assange. What does he got to do with it? I'm just telling I'm just saying

40:23 Of course all the stuff we really want to know about there's not not a single cable about at all. Cable. Cable. This this turns out to be a basically the a closed internet that the government uses per. Yeah no they shut it down too by the way. Yeah well they did because that was one of the main things Robert Gates said is like oh well we can't share information let's shut it all down. Yeah. After all the work they went through to share information. Yeah. After all that. If you're going to share information, what difference does it make? These cables, you know, all it says to me is that these people should be more circumspect when they do these memos. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to, if you think everything's wide open, I mean, anyone who's ever been in a court case and has said discovery,

41:05 knows that anything you write down as part of the record is going to be found out by lawyers and it's just going to be stumbled upon, it's going to be exposed to everyone. And this happens with the Microsoft cases over the years. All kinds of documents were uncovered that Microsoft would rather have not seen the light of day but they got out. Including them banning me by the way from something. The chat room says by the way they heard him say harm minimization and not harmonization. They say harm minimization. That's what the chat room heard. Harm minimization. Yeah instead of okay. Well that could be that could be I'll give you that well Let's move on then let me move on to another Another member of the shadow puppet theater which popped up This week completely just fly it flies under the radar Who would you say in any news organization is the most important person John?

42:00 In a news organization, I would say the executive producer is actually in a news organization. Like at ABC. uh... they just and named a new president of news now would you say i would the maybe you want yeah so would you say that the president of uh... of the new staffers kind of the guy who determines what happens well he'd be the guy who tell the editor-in-chief do you want to do and you know i a b a key b overseeing everything he wouldn't be doing day-to-day but he'd be coming in the bringing people into the office when things went astray

42:36 So news comes out and of course no one heard about this that Ann Sweeney who's the the group president of at Disney ABC television named Ben Sherwood the new president of ABC News I'm like well that's interesting because having worked at a big media organization the president is kind of the guy you know he's they when someone says Adam, listen, they really don't like what you're doing right now. They'd like you to change a little bit and just don't say that because they don't like it, alright? So I look into Ben Sherwood, who is my age, born February 12th, 1964. He's an American author, journalist, entrepreneur.

43:21 And here's what's kind of interesting. Ben Sherwood, born in Los Angeles, California, son of Dorothy and Richard Sherwood. His mom is a homemaker and arts volunteer. His father, special assistant, no his late father was a prominent lawyer, civic leader and patron of the arts. His older sister, Dr. Elizabeth Sherwood Randall, is special assistant to President Barack Obama. and senior director of european affairs on the national security council How does that work? Just a coincidence. I think not. Coincidence? I think not! And if you think for one minute that that is just a coincidence, you're out of your skull. I agree. I mean, right. People have to get it together. It is not a coincidence. What is special assistant? What kind of... I mean, she's probably a go-between. She's probably one of the go-betweens that works between the National Security Council. Is NSC?

44:24 Yeah, NSC. Okay, so she's that she's special assistant would be somebody I'm guessing somebody could write me and could correct me but generally speaking it would be somebody I think that's a go-between so that she'd be taking the documents from the CIA and the NSA back and forth to the NSC meetings. But he also... I could find out for sure. He's also I think he set this thing up called the Survivors Club. which is uh... houses for people who survived like horrible style those food things is in no i think it's like addictions and stuff like that it's uh... mhm c or who is to survive crime survive uh... molestation and survive some way any of those things that have possibly now here is i think it's a book january two thousand nine his first non-fiction book the survivors club the secrets and science that science and because save your life

45:18 was published by Grand Central Publishing. This is for survivors, survivalists. Yeah, the Survivor Club Explores Human Survival in All Its Forms was a New York Times bestseller. Yeah, this is a survivalist book. This is nuts. Yeah, I think Glenn Beck talks about this book a lot actually. Well, you know one of the reasons all the right wing talkers are now talking about survivalism is because the new sponsors that have come down the road, you know, it's always been the well known fact that the only reason that that talk radio is exist the way it is because of the gold sellers and well first of all seed banks, vitamin pills, HGH and all that now became gold and then it's moved on to these food programs yeah you take a bunch of paranoid people you put them on this food program, oh you buy this kit and you'll have food for the next two years, storable food, storable food, and you can store the food forever and you won't have to worry when the bomb hits or when the

46:18 whatever bad happens happens of course nothing ever comes in and by the way my tip to people out there there is there are mailing lists available you can get the mailing list is you want to maybe want to sell to uh... like mormons for example have all keep one years of food when you're which were the food in their basements by some edict And then there you have these guys. So you rent these two mailing lists and if all hell breaks loose, you just grab the mailing list and you just check off. You go find these people and shoot them and steal their food. Hey man, give me some food. That would be the smart money. Sick concept, but it would work. Anyway, so I just thought it was very interesting. With very little research done, by the way, all I had to do is look at Jimmy Wales's face and I knew that this guy was a complete insider with his sister being special assistant to the president.

47:12 and on the national security council hello so now it's only can assume a bc news is now in the bag yeah totally is that we are you and bc news is in the back is owned by g e nor were that's no longer true right But that's well, I don't is that deal done? I think the car is I think the Comcast deal is though That's part of what this whole net neutrality thing is about is they have to like I think figure that out Whatever the case is, you know, that people are still in place. So I'm still firing people, right? CBS is the is the is the kind of the one up in the air, man I'm sure there's a connection but I haven't found one so you might get real news from them. I don't know

47:50 You're not getting real news from anybody. You're barely getting real news from us. What am I speaking? Anyway, so you know you just got you just got to be aware of who's doing what and who's saying what and how things are being released and how they're being talked about. and how they're being changed in front of your very eyes. It brings me to Clinton. Okay, yeah, Clinton. What you got? So this guy, uh, where's his name? I didn't bring the right pad with me. Conway? The guy wrote, look up the book, it's called The Arab Lobby. And this guy was on C-SPAN yacking away about his book.

48:31 and he made a couple of interesting points. And one of them we've talked about on this show, we know it to be a fact, and it's come up in the conversation a lot when Hillary was running for president. A lot of people analyzed it and said, look, the problem Hillary's gonna have is the Clinton library. The thing has got like three, four hundred million dollars. Nobody knows where this money came from. Well we also know that they took zero dollars from admissions in 2009. Right, they didn't get ten cents but they got hundreds of millions of dollars. So play the clip, coy way of corrupting America. This is about a minute and a half but it really kind of tells us everything we need to know and I have a little post analysis of this commentary right coming up.

49:14 The Arab lobby has done, and this is particularly true of the Saudis, is to take a top-down approach to lobbying as opposed to a bottom-up. That is, the pro-Israel community has always prided itself on being a grassroots movement to mobilize the masses, to influence the members of Congress and the other decision makers. The Saudis and the Arab lobby in general take just the opposite approach because they don't have a means to reach the grassroots, they don't have the numbers, they don't have the public support. They try to go directly to the decision makers, influence the few who have power over the many. And so one of the reasons why the pro-Israel lobby is very transparent and we know a lot about what they do is because you see them out there lobbying Congress in a very visible way and that the records are all public. Whereas the Arab lobby does most of its work behind the scenes. That you have Saudi government officials, diplomats, the ambassador, the king in particular,

50:13 going directly to the White House to talk to the President or talking to the Secretary of State. And often we don't know that these talks are going on. You had Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador for more than 20 years who used to play racquetball and tennis with Colin Powell and David Jones and the top decision makers in our government and it was something that the average person would never know about. Do you think he'd let him win, John? I think that was his plan. I wonder about that. That was his plan. Hey Bandar man, you can't beat me. That's no good. You gotta lose, bitch. Otherwise I won't do anything for ya. That's a good question. Bandar also was quite candid in explaining the whole Saudi approach to influencing American policy. He said basically what we want to do is take care of people when they leave office because if you do that you'd be surprised how

51:07 Nice they are to you when they are in office. So they have the reputation over the years of taking very good care of former government officials who end up in very cushy consulting jobs with the Saudis who work in the defense industry, who work in various think tanks, and end up making a very comfortable living thanks in large part to the fact that they were very pro-Saudi while they were in the government. And this is a very bipartisan approach by the Saudis, by the way. They do the same thing with every president. They give money to their presidential libraries, they support the first lady's causes, sometimes they do it before the president becomes the president, sometimes it's after, in the hope of showing government leaders, our presidents even, that there is a good reason for them to be pro-Saudi. And one of my favorite examples

52:00 was the case of Bill Clinton, where you had at one point this obscure southern governor went to the Saudis and said, I'd like you to fund a Middle East study center at the University of Arkansas. The Saudis probably looked at him and thought, where's Arkansas? Where do I write that? Where do I send the check to? And told him, no. Then, not too long afterwards, this obscure southern governor suddenly is the Democratic candidate for president. And what do you know? Suddenly, the University of Arkansas gets $3.5 million for Middle East studies. Then, that obscure governor is elected president of the United States, of course, and shortly after he's inaugurated, the University of Arkansas miraculously gets a check for $20 million for the study of the Middle East.

52:51 This is one of the ways that the Arab lobby operates and has been very successful. Right. So I'm thinking, really, is that how it works? Hmm. Huh. Really? Yeah, that's why. So this, by the way, is the worst form of corruption in this country. uh... i mean you you'd essentially and what's the word gets out what what you get out of office you're going to be set for life you know that's what we have all the sudden you know presidents going inward two million dollars in coming out with a half a billion how does that happen all they had a lot of donors to the clinton library or whatever gap right now

53:30 so so i'm thinking that the with hillary and the fact of the matter is they've got so much money from the saudis by now that hillary really if anybody did some bookkeeping she's never going to become president because this you know that's why she she just said she said uh... this is going to be my last public office she was uh... over there where the hell was she uh... well she yeah but she said that but you know that she's not saying that to the saudis no you know you never buy a hand that you knowing that they're going to be able to and I believe Clinton is something of a shyster and he knows that he can, he's basically gouging them.

54:07 for more money well you know you know Hillary could become the next president you know wouldn't you know you might you might want to consider this uh you know I want to throw some more money in the library yeah you never know what uh what could happen there my foundation needs a few bucks yeah uh so you know so she's gonna stay in the game in some way shape or form because they're basically soaking these guys but at the same time this is like the worst kind of corruption for public officials And this guy goes on and on with all kinds of other examples. I mean, it's just a, it's just an, you know, very interesting book. It should be on our book club reading list. The guy's name is Michael Bard. The book is called the Arab Lobby. And it's just a very corrupt situation. There was a couple of other things that they're doing which are a little more disturbing.

54:51 You might want to play, I got two more clips. Get this out of the way. You might want to play the Saudi funded schools, which is kind of interesting. Oh yes. I can tie right into this. Of even greater concern, I think, is that they are trying to spread some of these values that they have in their own educational system into our education system. For example, in one school there was a map on the wall of the Middle East that was missing just one country. Can you guess which one? Israel. And they had a textbook that taught that the Jews were conspiring against Islam, and in their twelfth grade textbook it said that on the day of judgment the trees will speak to the Muslims and say, O Muslim, O servant of God, the Jews are hiding here behind me, come and kill them.

55:45 And it's not just about Jews. They also quote from another part of the Koran in which it said, the apes are the people of the Sabbath, the Jews are swine, the unbelievers of Jesus' table, the Christians. Jews are apes, Christians are pigs. These are some of the teachings that are very common in Saudi textbooks. They're finding their way into the United States and that particular school that I'm talking about is not a madrasa in Pakistan or a Taliban school in Afghanistan. It's actually a Saudi-funded school in Fairfax, Virginia. Oh, wait a minute. Is that the American University?

56:26 I don't know, he never says. Oh wow, well this ties into something else. I didn't know if you were going to bring it up, but I did some research on the American University and they just moved to 555 Pennsylvania Avenue, but they were based in Virginia. And the reason why I looked it up is because you said that George Clooney was on, what was he on? 60 Minutes? No. No, he was on, I think it was 2020. 2020, with his dad, right? Yeah. And you texted me, you said, and I wasn't at home so I couldn't take a look at it, you said, hey, you know, Clooney's dad looks like a total spook. And we kind of went back and forth for a few, it was like our only contact in between shows.

57:12 And we're like, hey, you know, it's kind of interesting. People rarely talk about his dad. They're always talking about Rosemary, which is his aunt. And so I look up his dad and he just, he just received a, he's now on the board, I believe, of Newseum. Now, do you have Newseum? The Newseum. So I'm like, what is this Newseum thing? So the Newseum is a part of the American University and the Newseum is a museum of news. It's truly the temple of the ministry of truth.

57:53 and it's a is completely funded by american university and something called freedom forum dot org have you ever heard of the freedom for the action have by the way i think the school that he's talking about is a is a legate k through twelve school in fairfax according to uh... most of the literature it's private islamic school Okay, well I think that the point that I want to make here is that in the United States, the school that you go to, when I say school I'm talking about university, really determines your future amongst, certainly amongst the elite. And if you look at the American university,

58:33 John I mean have you ever just taken a small gander at the American University and what I mean this is a University that has a billion dollar in endowments a billion dollars And then you've got to kind of look at you know who's been funding this so in 1986 they started building the sports and Convocation Center financed by Adnan Khashoggi Fine Saudi trustee trustee of the American University, you know, of course have heard the name Khashoggi. Oh, yeah. He's an arms dealer He's a known arms dealer And then and then you start to look at

59:16 all the people that are involved and have been to the School of Communication which is a part of the American University and this is really what what Clooney's dad is now you know he's like a big a bigwig over there and you start to understand how easy it is for messages to get put into the media because it's all the alumni. Listen to this list of people who have attended the American University School of Communication from government. I don't even do government because that's too easy. But let's look at some senators represent. Now why don't we look at some people in the media. Okay? Yeah, go. Neil Cavuto, David Gregory, who is now very influential on Meet the Press.

1:00:13 Interestingly enough, Alex Albrecht of Dignation. Oh, that's interesting. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Star Jones, Barry Levinson. uh... just did that mean i put all the links in the show notes and then you look at you look at uh... you know you look at the speakers in every single president has spoken there you've got uh... that list is endless of senators and representatives who have attended american university mean this is the hob and then you look at freedom forum dot org who is apparently funding a lot of

1:00:51 uh... essentially the news portion the newseum and the american university and school of communications and this freedom form is completely run and owned by gannett completely from beginning to end which of course owns usa today they'll alone that tons of newspapers gannett advertising and they're not a of five oh one c three But and so they don't publish numbers, but they have given over three quarters of a billion dollars to the school I mean it's it's this is where my heart just sinks. I'm like well. There's no way we can fight this It's like no of course not everyone's completely in everybody's party everyone's in the bag everyone's in the bag and then you get Bernie Sanders

1:01:36 uh... who uh... who reports on uh... i wasn't wasn't bernie sanders i got a different report here about other yet senator kerry own stock in the l three communications who do the body scanners and it's just fucking rampant is everywhere you turn every single thing you look at there's some kind of money flowing from one guy to the other and the saudis are absolutely right that's that's the best way to do it go straight to the guys who want the money put money in their campaign fund And we're talking like two, three, four, five hundred thousand dollars. Like a pop. Yeah, from... I'm speechless, I'm literally speechless and I actually get a little dismayed. It's like there's no way we can ever, we can't fight this. You can't fight that. So it's no wonder that Clooney gets like roped into doing this stuff.

1:02:29 And he gets pushed around and then we got to go do something about Darfur, Sudan, get Georgia over there, you can really sell it. And it goes straight through all the family connections. We truly have our own version of dynasties here. And they all run through universities. Well, you know Eisenhower when he said you we have to be wary of the military-industrial complex a lot of people don't realize it's very well documented that originally in the speech and he thought better of it was we have to be aware of the military-industrial-academic complex. Oh, did he really say that? Did he say academic? No, he never said that. That was in the written speech that he was going to say. Oh, really? I didn't know that. He pulled academic out at the last second thinking, well, maybe I shouldn't say that because I'm gonna get, you know, there's lots of reasons it was politically correct thing to do. But in fact, it was military-industrial-academic complex. Wow. Now, that's news to me.

1:03:30 But it makes so much sense because I just start looking at this stuff and I see all these names and I'm like, oh well forget about it. Forget about it. And you make a great name like freedomforum.org and I'm like, oh I'll take a look at their numbers. Their net, their balance sheet, they are worth over a billion dollars. and the top, about us, top line. We have nothing to do with the Gannett publishing empire except that it was founded by him, everyone in it who's running it is former Gannett. Everyone is from Gannett. The whole thing is a setup. It's like, huh? And you know these are all the people who go to the Bilderberg conference and don't report on it.

1:04:17 You know where the true agenda is laid out, and that's how it works. It's back to my SimCity example You just got to have enough people with enough money flowing left and right and then you can you can actually determine the agenda You can actually do it. Well. We have no agenda. It's my Now you're breaking up again with that connection Okay there we go it's a yeah, I got a reply. What do you think it is it? It appears to be I can't get up Wiggling things you might be better off. Well. It's it's just put your pants on there's like dust in something and I don't know it's annoying all right, so I have a third clip okay, I

1:05:15 Which is just that this is the little this changes the topic a little bit But he talks about how the Saudis are actually you know they bitch and moan about the Israelis or Israel constantly But he says their real concern is Iran so play the Saudi nuke clip and the other Gulf states are petrified of the Iranians much more than the Israelis in many ways because they're a lot closer to And the Iranians make no pretense about their designs on parts of the Gulf. In fact, they occupy one of the islands, I believe, owned by Bahrain.

1:05:51 They're constantly having border disputes. And so the Saudis are scared to death of the Iranians. But the Saudis also are very scared of how they are dealt with. That if they don't think the United States will take action against the Iranians, then they will likely do one of two things. And actually they've already done both. And that is to try to buy off the Iranians, that they've gone and had meetings with Iran in the past few years to try to appease them. And at the same time, they have signed nuclear cooperation agreements and they

1:06:30 are likely to pursue a nuclear weapon. In fact, one of the biggest dangers, maybe you'll want to talk about the Iranian issue more generally, but one of the biggest dangers of the Iranian issue isn't Iran getting the bomb, but the fact that if they get the bomb, all the other Arab states are going to want it to protect themselves from Iran, and Saudi's first among them. Wow. Is it possible for... So, really? That's interesting. that that does kind of the back up what to at least some of the media is reporting about the wiki leaks cables I downloaded that whole archive and is like you can open it is there some trick to open something about the whole thing is fishy I couldn't even download a guy I got a warrant I got the torrent I was able to download it cuz I never got the toward it said the tour couldn't be had and thinking wait a minute torrents always it were too busy I'm thinking wait wait the way the architecture of torrents is the busier you

1:07:23 are the better it is. The better they work. Well I got the torrent within seconds that was no problem but then it's like in this weird format it's not a zip file I mean there must be some way to open it or something. Somebody will know. Yeah. So anyway yes so they the thing he talks about the fact that the Saudis have always are really big I mean they're the number one financiers of all terrorism. Yeah. this man he said that they did not fail threats he says he says it's possible that you know that fact that everybody was a saudi in the nine eleven uh... situation uh... that the saudis were literally be not just behind it in a in a kind of a oddball way but actually behind it

1:08:04 Thinking that they're there because they do this is if you don't do what they want because after all they've given you hundreds of millions of dollars for whatever your library or whatever you're doing right, right? Oh Really son I let you win it at racquetball and now you do this. Oh, okay, son We'll show you what we can do so the Saudis are bad actors. It's generally speaking in this regard, right? and so we have to keep an eye on it. And by the way, that's not the people of Saudi Arabia, it's the elites. No, it's the royal family, the people are the elite. Who knows what would happen if the people took over? And they're asking for nothing but trouble. I mean, they've created this offshoot Wahhabism amongst their Muslim population, which is extremely rigid. It's like many of the precepts are like, you don't want to own anything that's expensive. Right.

1:08:55 because that's bad. So you know, they try to keep the people like, oh, you have a painting? No, no, no, you don't want to own a painting. You don't want to have anything. It's just pretentious. So they get the people in some situations, but it's so strict and rigid that people obviously see what the royal family is doing and they're spending like crazy. They got private jets. They don't wear the babushka all the time. So one of these days it's going to be a mess over there. Apparently the file is stored in 7-zip format, which I've not heard of it. 7-zip? 7-zip, you familiar with that? Nope. No, okay. Well at least I guess I can figure it out now. Sure you can figure it out. Yeah, because I got time. You know, I read all this stuff. Like... Yeah, let us know what you find. Because apparently, according to Assange, you know, he releases all this stuff and nobody gives a crap. Right. I do. I love it. But of course it may be... Months.

1:09:51 So anyway, so all this money rolling around through the School of Communication, the Saudis into Capitol Hill, and meanwhile, oh by the way I might want to point out George Soros just did a generous donation of 1.8 million dollars to our national treasurer NPR, who gladly took the money of course, and he actually stipulated it was to hire 100 journalists. I wonder if he handed a list, and here they are. And here's the journalist you might want to consider. More fine, which of course no one's up in arms about. So besides Amazon shutting off your beloved WikiLeaks, PayPal is now refusing to pass on money. So how long before we get screwed, John? How long before PayPal shuts us off? We're still under the radar. Yeah.

1:10:43 I mean if we had the kind of profile that WikiLeaks had, for one thing we'd get so much money right off the bat that we probably could coast. We'd be coasting mother! Just coasting along! There's no coasting going on at the moment. No. As a reminder I want to mention to people, in fact we should probably discuss that, I think we're at the point where we need to talk about people who donated. The donation address is Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak dot com slash NA or check out the NOAgenda show dot com where there's a link. And we have a few donors that helped us out this week for this week's show including

1:11:24 Steven Boe of Clear Lake, Wisconsin who gave us $150 and said he's a longtime supporter of Minute Man plus $5 a month subscriber, $150 donation in honor of JCD's amateur radio licensing. Hey, breaker breaker good buddy. That's CB. I know. I'm gonna get mine too now. Well it says right here there's more you give us $150 where that came from if you get yours Adam. I'm there man I'm gonna do it I am totally going to get it. Now with this license that you got this is like level one what can you do? Can you actually like can you can you turn up the heater? Can you blast out some watts? How many watts can you do? How many watts?

1:12:02 I think one of the bands I can do 1500 if I wanted to. I think I'm going to be floating around 50. I had to mention something. It's like expensive to get. You get a thousand watt Transmitter is not something I could just find on the street turn up your heater good buddy. Yeah, I'm gonna happen Yeah, so but but is this all you need or do you have to go for I mean? Is this the the base? You want to do you want to move up to the general because that gives you all the almost all the ham frequencies you can use almost all of them and that includes the Those long wave radio waves that go around the world, but can you do the the 802 dot 11 n thing now?

1:12:43 No, you can't. No, see this is one of the things that you get your get your license and we'll talk about we'll do a show dedicated to get more people involved because I think that the the government is kind of suppressing the ham movement generally speaking. Yeah, where is it? It's it's our it's our true backstop. It's the real backstop. Yes, the real deal. It's very important and I the reason I kind of got involved is because as a friend of mine says I'm paranoid, but it's no, it wasn't for that. It was the, it's a good hobby and it's something I want to learn about and something I want to be able to do on, you know, in all sorts of different ways. But I also see opportunities to complain.

1:13:22 and as anyone knows me I'm a complainer and I think there's things to complain about and I think a lot of it has to do with the government and I think they're short sheeting the ham people generally speaking. A lot of them do complain but they have different audiences. You and I single-handedly could bring back... Complain! Yeah, we could just sit there and complain. KRLMG, Lieber November Golf, I'm pissed off, how about you? Actually saying pissed off is against the law. Oh, there's rules. I don't like it that much all of it You can't say pissed off on the hem on the hand man. Yeah It's to pay off a no, that's not well that oh, no, I'm sorry. We have I got my Roger beep on We'll talk about the details later. But yeah, you should get it just getting the first license is rather easy. I'm not I

1:14:15 then you know it's when you get the general school. Crankyhams.com is a suggestion from the chat room. There's a lot of online tests that people can take and they can, you know, you can bring yourself up to speed. Let's move on. We have a lot more New World order to fill. Boris Slav Marinov, Sir Marinov to you. Yes. From Aliso Viejo, California has a birthday coming up. One, two, three, six, nine. Got his knighthood two months back. Got a lot of karma. I need some good karma. Oh, okay. This is the good kind. You've got karma. Actually, that's it for his son because the Kaiser Permanente canceled his surgery because Cobra takes a while to show that he has coverage. I hope no one takes his spot till Tuesday and hopefully the documents don't get lost between Cobra and the Kaiser.

1:13:22 and as anyone knows me I'm a complainer and I think there's things to complain about and I think a lot of it has to do with the government and I think they're short sheeting the ham people generally speaking. A lot of them do complain but they have different audiences. You and I single-handedly could bring back... Complain! Yeah, we could just sit there and complain. KRLMG, Lieber November Golf, I'm pissed off, how about you? Actually saying pissed off is against the law. Oh, there's rules. I don't like it that much all of it You can't say pissed off on the hem on the hand man. Yeah It's to pay off a no, that's not well that oh, no, I'm sorry. We have I got my Roger beep on We'll talk about the details later. But yeah, you should get it just getting the first license is rather easy. I'm not I

1:14:15 then you know it's when you get the general school. Crankyhams.com is a suggestion from the chat room. There's a lot of online tests that people can take and they can, you know, you can bring yourself up to speed. Let's move on. We have a lot more New World order to fill. Boris Slav Marinov, Sir Marinov to you. Yes. From Aliso Viejo, California has a birthday coming up. One, two, three, six, nine. Got his knighthood two months back. Got a lot of karma. I need some good karma. Oh, okay. This is the good kind. You've got karma. Actually, that's it for his son because the Kaiser Permanente canceled his surgery because Cobra takes a while to show that he has coverage. I hope no one takes his spot till Tuesday and hopefully the documents don't get lost between Cobra and the Kaiser.

1:15:04 By the way, my last name is pronounced Marinoff. I think I said that like Marino. Marinoff? Marinoff. Okay, Marinoff. Don't pronounce it Mary. Yeah, don't do what you just did basically. Whatever. PS12369 is my birthday. I was hoping to get that donation on my birthday, but PayPal messed me up. This guy's got some, he needs karma. Speaking of karma for just a minute, producer Craig who is the inventor of the Quad Niner donation meme, manager of No Agenda PR and a college friend of Martha Quinn. He said, look I was executive producer for episode 250, I requested some karma to help expand my business. When I requested I was hoping just to land a new client. That didn't happen so I thought karma, well that's BS but since then

1:15:51 The following unexpected developments have happened in my business. One, I'm involved in a probable new business partnership that could be huge for 2011. I landed two new clients for 2011, equivalent to about 50% of my 2010 income. Two previous clients called out of the blue for new work. A recent client who ended a four-month project may turn into a major ongoing client in 2011. The lesson, karma works, so donate now all you douchebags. Rest assured, once my new client fee checks start rolling in, my path to knighthood checks will subsequently be rolling your way. Meanwhile, I have a new donation meme. It says, look, karma should not be cheap. You shouldn't be handing out karma left and right. Two, according to the karmic debt

1:16:33 At decause calm there are four karmic debt numbers the numbers are 13 14 16 and 19 if you add up the karmic debt numbers you get $62 so you should not be handing out karma unless someone donates the minimum of $62 Sounds reasonable. I think it's very reasonable. I mean we are he's right. We're pretty easy on the karma. I Yeah, well, you got the button. Okay, if it's not 62 or more, no karma. That's my new rule. Rudy at Upstart Ventures wants to give a call out, a 9er, 9er, 9er, dot 9er, 9er call out. Rudy at Upstart Ventures, 9er, 9er. Wait, wait, stop. It's for his stepfather, Max Zocco. Max Zocco, 9er, 9er, 9er, 9er from Rudy at Upstart Ventures.

1:17:20 There you go. And I think there's a birthday involved, we'll get to that later. And then your buddy Schnorrestine. Stain. Stain. Who is Gitmo Nation North Pole. Yeah, get more Jackson North Pole. He is, he's at the North Pole. Yeah, you got the pictures, you never sent them to me. Yeah I did, I sent you the picture, I actually sent you the pictures of him with his snowmobiles and his rifle on his back. We have to get, go there. The guy is living the life and he says there's a rule of thumb, never snowmobile further than you'd like to walk home. Which I thought was kind of cool. I've learned the hard way a small circle around the house It sucks pushing the snowmobile with a rifle strap to your back, okay? Snorting his wife up there. I think all they do is just have sex and ride snowmobiles I don't know why 80 kilometers an hour is the maximum speed allowed for snowmobile outside our village. I've done at least 81 ha yeah

1:18:16 Good job. He does a great work. He once has a birthday call out to his father. By the way, I've snowmobiled in northern Finland and what's interesting about those speed limits is that they have like a small freeway for snowmobiles and there are cops on snowmobiles with red lights and sirens positioned along the way. Behind signs. It's unbelievable. Alright moving along Daniel Ronde and and in your neck of the day. Oh man Netherlands this was this was actually a request from some of our supporters from the Netherlands You know in the in the Second World War if they if they wanted to see if someone was a German spy They made them say the following things Schafening and Sade

1:19:06 And there was one more that I can't remember now. So if you couldn't say that properly, then you were clearly not Dutch. Scheveningen enschede. Yeah, you could have been an American. But they'd think you were a German spy, they'd shoot you. Yeah, exactly. Anonymous in Sweden gave us 64 bucks. Don't even have to mention the note, so anonymous. Well, okay, sorry I mentioned it. Justin Burley in Rescue California. I think it's Bauerly, I think it is. It could be. 5555 to my Geology 300 class, the teacher just devoted a whole month to global warming. A whole month. So I asked her about biodiversity in front of the class and she didn't even know what it was. I told her she was spewing old propaganda. She was pissed.

1:20:03 He wants a climate gate jingle. Oh, um, well the new one is the biodiversity. I don't even know if I have the climate gate jingle. The gate, the gate, the climate gate? To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate! I think it's... Sorry? Give him one of the last karmas that we're gonna get for under $62. Okay. You've got karma. Sir Howard Hill, double nickels on a dime from Akron, Ohio. Before he slips from knight to douchebag, he says. Well you can't. I mean, you're... Not really. Now I can get a spiffy Minuteman patch. I also do not scribble down the email address of the 101010 coins. That's shill at noagendonation.com. Bradley Sweeney, Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada.

1:20:59 Double nickels on the dime and then we have some knighthood layaways for Tristan Lennon Travis win from and Tristan by the way some Wagga Wagga Travis Lynn from Hammett and Mike Westerfield also 50 from Wesley Ball Sherman Oaks, California in the spirit of the C-Span segments and Judy Schwartz from Boem, Texas and finally Ryan bones and Mark Vaughn from Melbourne, Pennsylvania and Austin town, Ohio All right, got a couple of them for today first of all make good birthday for Bob majors who had his birthday on the 2nd of December Happy birthday there Bob Sir Charles Jordan says happy birthday to his wife Dame Carol Jordan also this past 2nd of December sir Charles Jordan himself yesterday Rudy as we discussed earlier says happy birthday to his stepfather Max Zuckoff

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1:22:52 so uh... to the guys who got the got three things are four things really so one i'm putting in the show notes are linked to uh... food safety act uh... s five ten because we talked about it yesterday uh... last week and you said well i i i thought it was all the fda dude if you just if you did you open it up in like uh... in a pdf reader and search for a homeland security it everywhere every single paragraph says the Secretary of Agriculture and Department of Homeland Security. It's like they're married now. They are one. The Homeland Secur- I was looking at listening to old clips. And in fact, I have a couple old clips I want to play because one or two of them are quite interesting. You know, you go back and you hear some of this stuff a year later and it's like, oh.

1:23:44 But I have a clip that I didn't recapture but it mentions that Homeland Security, you know what the size of the active people in the field that are actually doing law enforcement? 300,000. it's the same as the US Marine Corps. Well isn't that what Obama promised? Didn't he promise we would have a... Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Obama promised a, you know, a secret police or a domestic police, government security... I think the quote is a security force as large as our armed forces and the TSA is quite possibly the new brown shirts. They're certainly dumb enough. Quite possibly they are the new brown shirts. They're just, you know, nobody's complaining about it. Of course, you know, we haven't seen them start to kill people.

1:24:27 Although they're, you know, molesting them. When they start handing out guns to the TSA, the badges were first. When they start handing out guns, then you know we're really in trouble. Yeah, the badges are bad enough because they're not really law enforcement people. The police departments around the country, and you know this is another reason why that nullification book is so important. These states have got to show some backbone. because they're just letting the federal government run roughshod over them. And then, you know, essentially it's a disservice to the public of your states to let this continue. I mean, the only safe states now are just a few like Wyoming. You know, there was a, the president met with the Council of Governors. Remember, I read, I found that executive order where he put together the Council of Governors

1:25:12 And this is like, it's not just a drinking club. Okay? This is, it's something that we don't quite understand. A lot of the conspiracy groups online, of which I'm a member of many. said, you know, this is it, you know, martial law is coming. So they met with the president. There's actually video of him and Biden, you know, talking to him. But Governor-elect, because I guess they all go into office at the beginning of the year, Bill Haslam. And where is he of? Where is Haslam from? I can't find it. He made a statement, oh I guess he's from Tennessee, he made a statement to the Tennessean, which I would say is a fine publication, and he said, well it was a very interesting day, he said there were many presentations, amongst them Secretary of Health,

1:26:07 and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, who we're not a big fan of, Education Secretary Arne Duncan, and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Now I do not have this quote anywhere, even though I scoured the C-SPAN library, could not find it. According to Haslam, Governor-elect of Tennessee, she said, quote, count on something happening while you are governor. What is that supposed to mean? Well, this is what I'd like to know. I don't like it. It doesn't sound very fun. Count on something happening while you are governor. I mean is that like just a foregone conclusion? Like hey there's always something going on or... Maybe she's gonna get some money from the Saudis. Or do we have something planned? You know? I'm sure they got something planned. In fact something planned is kind of interesting because it leads into if you're not, if you're kind of finished with that thought, I have the, I have the something planned

1:27:11 There's a couple of clips I found in the library that I want to play, and there's two of them. There's one called Mass Destruction, if you play that. uh... okay and where's this from the the setup we go right into it is well that the second one is set up at this one here this is a this is after member the christmas bomber this is there is a whole bunch of its uh... a bunch of uh... uh... senate hearings all the rest of it right after during the month of january of this year which is almost a year ago now we this is the kind of new story that was playing put mass destruction is one of them Thank you for being here. Great to be here. Let's start with your assessment actually 14 months ago. Is there any doubt in your mind, and I'll begin with you Senator Graham, but either of you, that the threat remains as you assessed it then, that within the next four years it is likely or more likely than not that some terrorist somewhere in the world will use a weapon of mass destruction?

1:28:08 If anything, the odds that we gave a year ago, which was more likely than not, have probably gone up in the past 14 months. That is, it is higher than just a straight, slightly more than 50-50. I love all the numbers. I love 14 months, the odds, 50-50. you know is that again by the way and we have to remember that they've redefined now weapons of mass destruction to include just about anything i think i think it includes my ass i mean i think that's how i mean they had this guy in oregon this is crazy thing that happened in oregon is weapons of mass destruction. Sawdust. I mean everything's a weapon of mass destruction. If something could blow up a cat, it's a weapon of mass destruction. Some place on earth a terrorist group would use a weapon of mass destruction. Dude, I can predict that. Hey, something's gonna happen. It's like... Alright, okay, stop the clip. Stop the clip. Okay. So let's go, let's take it to another level then, to the second which is the Homeland attack clip. And this one, I do need this app. This was done at the Senate.

1:29:10 this these are our leaders in January over the end of January very first part of February almost a year ago these are our leaders predicting the future not with a bunch of vagaries but they're these are like the head of the CIA Panetta the head of the military intelligence the head of the Joint Chiefs and the cadet intelligence go-between guy the whole group is being grilled by Dianne Feinstein and they are telling us exactly Definitively, these are our leaders telling us what's going to happen and when it's going to happen. Play it. What is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the US homeland in the next three to six months? High or low? Director Blair? An attempted attack, the priority is certain, I would say. Mr. Panetta? I would agree with that. Mr. Mueller? Agree. General Burgess? Yes, ma'am. Agree. Mr. Dinger? Yes.

1:30:15 Well, why do we have all these guys? They're just all pointing to the one guy. I agree with him. Yeah. Hey, what he said. By the way, great leaders of our country. Hinterland. What happened? Yeah, well, we had the, uh, the toner attack. Ah, stop. No, that didn't count. It was certain that within six months, three to six, actually, it would definitely, we'd have a horrible attack on the country. The homeland. It was totally certain. Where is it? It was three months ago. It should have happened. Hey, we're disappointed. I'm just wondering who these guys, why are we paying these people? I love it when you get pissed off. That's kind of funny. No seriously, they're getting hundreds of thousands of dollars to give us bad information. Why are we paying them? To give us bad information! Don't you understand? Yeah, that's our leadership. You know that, what was kind of funny? It's certain. I agree with him. Yes. What he said.

1:31:11 So, has there ever in your memory, John, been a time when the President of these United Gitmo States did not do the weekly radio address himself personally? uh... well i mean the re weekly radio address of course is something no i mean it's a good day don't do it at all or that you why would somebody else do that makes a list of our own i'm filling in for president obama's weekend but it's just a little show it literally literally It is like, hey everybody I'm Joe Biden. I'm filling in for President Barack Obama. I saw this this morning. I love watching our president's show. It's now known as the YouTube show. Which by the way, I mean, is it that hard to hold up a camera with a teleprompter in Afghanistan? Is it impossible to do? I'm worried about the security and safety of our president right now because he didn't show up.

1:32:08 And he's done this thing in Louisiana on location. He's done it in Chroma Key Studios. He does it all over the place, but now all of a sudden he can't do it. And then we get like the weekend crew from CNN. Hi, this is Joe Biden. I'm filling in for President Obama this weekend because he's on his way back from Afghanistan where he was spending some time with the brave men. And then he goes on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which was just like, wow, that to me was weird. Weird that he was doing it, but then he winds it up because he knows he's not gonna get the slot anymore because it's just a temporary slot and Let's see if I can queue it up more or less to what he said here I'm a growth by preserving tax cuts now Then he goes it's a whole tax cut you know is important that he like tax cuts for the rich blah blah whatever is voted to do just that I'm just moved ahead. There's no doubt these are tough time. Oh here. It is the same

1:33:05 Look folks, there's no doubt these are tough times. Hey folks, hey folks, hey folks, hey folks, these are tough times. We are slowly but surely fighting our way back, moving forward. And we're going to keep fighting to grow the economy, to strengthen the middle class, and to restore the American dream. Now here it comes. That's my pledge to you. And hey, one last thing. And hey, hey, hey, hey! Slave! One last thing. Since the president will be back to record this message next week. Since I'm only a fill-in. This is ridiculous. Let me take this chance to say from my family to yours, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, have a great holiday season and an even better New Year. And a happy Kwanzaa. What happened to Kwanzaa? I'm insulted he didn't mention Kwanzaa.

1:33:54 I'm so insulted. And Festivus, he didn't mention that either. And the Solstice. He slighted me, man. He slighted the pagans, he slighted the bullcrappers and everybody in between. So, and now here's a clip from the Gitmo Nation Jewelry category about this judge in Texas. And I'm only going to play a little bit of it. The whole clip is actually quite interesting. I'm contemplating it being an end of show clip. You'll want to hear it. Um... This is, I believe this may even be from our national treasure. Well, we also discussed other ways education officials are trying to keep kids in school. The Toronto District School Board, for example, is studying the idea of paying low-income children if they come to school to get good grades. This is good. This is a good thing, John. I'm in. Yeah. I want to go back to school all of a sudden. Using a carrot instead of a stick, so to speak. David Kobos has a very different approach. He's a judge in Midland, Texas, and he sometimes orders students to wear a GPS anklet. Yay!

1:34:57 This is good. This is Texas. All you Texans should be so proud of yourself. Let's listen in. The kind used to track parolees. Judge Kobos is in from the BIA Corporation. Of course, they're expanding, expanding into their guys are going to have an annual report. Shareholders this year we expanded into education. Good morning. How did you get this idea of sentencing truant teenagers with ankle monitors? Well, in Texas there are laws, compulsory school attendance laws, which require students to attend school. So if them damn slaves don't want to listen, we got to slap the bracelet on them. From kindergarten up to their 18th birthday.

1:35:44 compulsory school attendance laws. And simply what I'm doing is in fulfilling my duties as a judge to enforce those particular laws. And I'm just doing what I'm told. I'm just doing what the law tells me to do. The law is structured that gives me some discretion in what is reasonable to ensure. This is reasonable. John, you know, I believe things cost a fortune. It's not reasonable in any monetary sense who's paying for that? You know, you know, this guy has got to be on the take he's got to be on the take for bi This is no way. I mean, how else did he come up with this? This is a very expensive program that the orders of the court and state law are being followed We do have an attorney general opinion who has confirmed that the use of ankle monitors and failure to attend cases is reasonable. It's reasonable

1:36:36 uh... by the way this guy was investigated by the fbi as part of a corrupt corruptions probe in two thousand seven so do you mark my words is going to judge a gap mark my word but it's reasonable so this has been approved by lawmakers that i would i have to assume that whoever was interviewing him knew this and they would they would have brought this up now please is our national treasure uh... started using them before or state attorney general was that on my wife uh... whether that was reasonable because as a judge i determined that it was um... in uh... how i got the idea is we have a pretrial uh... office here which if an individual is unable to bond out of jail because they don't have the financial means the county has a program whereby they will put up the bond at a reduced rate uh... for the defendant to bond out so therefore we're not

1:37:30 overcrowding our jails. I'm sorry it's CBC not NPR well another Gitmo nation state. It's the Canadian version. And they use GPS monitors and so I just got together with the pretrial people asked them if I could borrow I could borrow a couple of those monitors. Hey, you got some of them bracelets? You got some jewelry for me? I want to borrow a couple. For a test. And I installed them on a couple of young people. Punks! I installed them. I installed them on a couple of punks. They're having problems at home, running away. They're running away, so they run away. Yeah, they're being beat up at home. Being a beauty. Going to school. You know, now you must make sure they stay there. Yeah. And it worked.

1:38:14 success and so what it what does the monitor actually do well hmm this is this is journalism in Canada so what does the GPS anchor a bracelet monitor actually do well it tells us their location 730 and 3? 730? Really? Early? Where are the parents in all of this? Where's the outrage about this? This is nutball. That they're outside of the prescribed zone and therefore we can hone in. The zone? The zone. Ah, the zone. The Gitmo zone. Or send the troops, the constable. The troops! The troops! We can send in the troops!

1:39:15 I'm saving this for end of show clip. This is too good. It just goes on and on the guy is phenomenal the troops I'm sending in the troops. Oh my goodness. All right now. I have something very serious to discuss uh... because i have been doing my research and uh... in the opening of the show where i misstated that today is december fourth you know that part where it's actually december fifth there's a uh... and and i'm not a uh... wait you can go back into a post-production says i'm adam curry today is december fifth no i'm not going to do that and that's we don't have it we don't edit the show that's the beauty of it otherwise you might as well just call us the economist

1:40:00 So, not a huge fan of the Alex Jones organization, although I do listen quite frequently because I love the guests that he has on. However, there's this guy, this Alex Berman, Burmese I think his name is, I think he did He's done a couple of the movies for Alex Jones. And he interviewed, and so that's why I actually wanted to see this, I'm just going to bring this up. He interviewed Rosalind Peterson. And Rosalind Peterson, who by the way does not speak of chemtrails but speaks of persistent jet contrails.

1:40:45 She has her own watchdog group called California Skywatch but she was a certified USDA Farm Service Agency crop loss adjuster which I think means, and she actually explains it in this interview, she would go out and evaluate if a farmer was entitled to compensation for crop loss. Weren't you kind of in this area of air pollution and stuff like that John when you work for the government? I was in yeah but not crop law. No no no no but you you you did do you actually you measured air pollution correct? Yeah. Right. I mean I didn't go out personally measure the engineers did that I was out there enforcing the law. Yeah with uh with the troops and the monitors. The troops. So um she goes into great detail and I and I of course put a link in the show notes to the uh to this interview it's about an hour and I think you really should watch it

1:41:41 Because she has a well-backed, well-researched theory about what some would call chemtrails. And right off the bat in this documentary she says, you can't call these things chemtrails. If you do that, immediately you're deemed a crackpot. Chemtrails. She says they are in government even known, and this is a government term known as persistent jet contrails. And I have a couple of clips that I pulled from this. that I thought were pertinent to the show because you know I'm all over it I think we all agree that something is going on and according to this interview that and she seems like a very very smart woman she seems well put together she has a lot of government background understands how things work and she did the research and it's all at this California Skywatch website and actually I sent you the US Air Force weather modification document did you have a chance to look at that?

1:42:42 Yeah, I looked at it and then I backtracked on many of the citations to see where this all began and some of the details from the past to see exactly where it's headed. and I have some thoughts on it. Okay, well let's just go briefly into this because she says, her assertion, I'll just, spoiler alert, what she says is these are geoengineering projects which are funded by private corporations done mainly by the military and she has all the flight paths and she really did a lot of the work and she attended a meeting of geoengineering scientists who were actually conducting many of these experiments and here's some of what she learned. Let me go back to 2006 in November. NASA Ames in California had a meeting of geoengineers from all over the world. It was a big meeting

1:43:35 It went on for a week and it was not open to the public. During the course of this meeting, they were talking about these different geoengineering projects that they were studying. These were university professors, different people, and there was many proposals that were put forward at this meeting. I was lucky enough to be present at the one day public event that they had on this meeting where several of the scientists and college professors spoke at this meeting with regard to geoengineering. One of the things we have on tape

1:44:11 because it was allowed to be videotaped, is that they were talking about the word geoengineering. And many of the geoengineering people in 2006 said that they had kept the word out of the public realm because they knew that if the public would find out about some of their schemes of putting chemicals into the air, to shooting salt into the air, uh... all kinds of different experiments that the public might say no so they actually admitted that they kept the word geoengineering out of uh... out of texan out of uh... you can't find it in a lot of college textbooks uh... at any lower uh... level so i'd i thought that was right there was very interesting that they would actually admit to that and uh... i would uh...

1:44:59 ask all of our younger listeners to explore their textbooks and see if that is indeed true, if they can find any mention of Jim. Oh, I'm sure there's no mention of it whatsoever. I mean, the one thing I turned up when I was looking at this material, with a more skeptical eye than you, I'm sure. uh... is the uh... fact that this this the concept of weather modification it goes back to the world war two uh... but it's not the thing that that should be emphasized in the one thing keeps turning up over and over again and she even says it herself they're experimenting and they their experimentation is is is so

1:45:34 crazy for example there was a uh... hurricane that was good that was moving nicely along the coastline uh... in nineteen forty seven and so these these uh... weather modification guys from the government decided to drop a couple hundred pounds of dry ice into the hurricane it took one of those bomber planes they could fly into the hurricane into the i'm a i guess in the way in or the way out they dropped all this dry ice in the hurricane took an immediate left turn and slammed into savannah georgia massive damage and the government had to keep this quiet and I think the reason they want to keep all this quiet is for is the reason that A. it's very experimental and B. it was said in the documents when it was finally revealed that this happened they're worried sick that you know this the the savannah people were going to sue the crap out of the government who had caused this problem they believe

1:46:23 and they would have been liable. So the government experimenting in the public domain with all these crazy ideas, they just basically don't want to get sued when they kill you. So here's a good thank you. I'm going to skip ahead to the next clip. She talks about the funding for this, where it comes from. This of course kind of tracks back to my dismay about all of the money and this runs completely parallel with the global warming scam etc. The underlying cause of all of this and some of the funding is military funding because the military wants to be able to control the weather. The military has got an agenda

1:47:03 that if they control the weather, they can control any country to make it do whatever they want. And many documents on the weather 2025... Yeah, you should read this document, I've linked to it in the show notes. It's from the Air Force. It's actually the AF.mil website, this PDF called Weather 2025. A quote from that in 2025 US aerospace forces can own the weather by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war fighting applications. Such a capability offers the war fight war fighter tools to shape the battle space in ways never before possible. It provides opportunities to impact operations across the full spectrum of conflict and is pertinent to all possible futures.

1:47:52 The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of future weather modification systems to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical road map. And it just goes on and on and on about how awesome this is going to be. It's just awesome. It's great. We need it. There are several documents in which they talk about how rather than having some weapons of mass destruction, in other words bombs or something, if they could control the weather in a country they could actually force them and say look we will put you in drought, we will put you in floods. So some of the... Sound familiar Pakistan?

1:48:28 Experiments with the weather modification and other things that the geoengineers are doing would mean that they would have, it would be a military application and a lot of money comes from the military sector for this. I looked at some of the universities and I looked at the funding chain. In other words, who's funding these because it has to be public and we know that the military is also initiating programs and paying for funding. So when you look at the funding stream, you can see that it's private corporations, you can see that it's the military. So there's a lot of funding in there that's not coming from you and I because we couldn't afford it. And the big military budget is where there's a lot of extra money for experimentation.

1:49:11 So that's where a lot of the funding and then it's private corporations who will make money from these experiments going in and will produce whatever is needed to do these experiments. So that funding is coming in. It's like the CRES program, the air C-R-R-E-S. When they were sending up these canisters loaded with chemicals to superheat, Well, that was a NASA budget, that's the US Air Force budget, and then they do ionospheric testing. Well, how do we know what impact that had on the environment that protects us around the Earth? So she goes into quite a lot of detail because her job was actually to look at crops and trees and other foliage and stuff. And this would actually be homework for you, although I think she's probably done most of the work.

1:50:00 She went back and she studied all of the, actually I'm not even going to play this clip, but she studied all of the drinking water reports, which some of them date back to I think 1970. And it turns out that there were these spikes. uh... in certain chemicals being in in california in the drinking water in california and said it's not so crazy you have a spike from time to time because it can be from a lot of different things but to have a simultaneous spike magnum magnum ease aluminum barium met by manganese rank manganese i'm sorry yeah all at the same time is of course quite spectacular so you could just order the cd and it's like eighteen megabytes of data

1:49:11 So that's where a lot of the funding and then it's private corporations who will make money from these experiments going in and will produce whatever is needed to do these experiments. So that funding is coming in. It's like the CRES program, the air C-R-R-E-S. When they were sending up these canisters loaded with chemicals to superheat, Well, that was a NASA budget, that's the US Air Force budget, and then they do ionospheric testing. Well, how do we know what impact that had on the environment that protects us around the Earth? So she goes into quite a lot of detail because her job was actually to look at crops and trees and other foliage and stuff. And this would actually be homework for you, although I think she's probably done most of the work.

1:50:00 She went back and she studied all of the, actually I'm not even going to play this clip, but she studied all of the drinking water reports, which some of them date back to I think 1970. And it turns out that there were these spikes. uh... in certain chemicals being in in california in the drinking water in california and said it's not so crazy you have a spike from time to time because it can be from a lot of different things but to have a simultaneous spike magnum magnum ease aluminum barium met by manganese rank manganese i'm sorry yeah all at the same time is of course quite spectacular so you could just order the cd and it's like eighteen megabytes of data

1:50:43 and that she grafted all out and and the spikes are of course you know this is what's happening they are spraying stuff in the air it's all a part of experiments and here's the final clip I'll play and of course is to save the children John obviously and they readily admitted that that was one two they want to be able to continue with their work because that's job security for a lot of university professors Three, several of them have stated, well, you know, the public, we're going to be who the world turns to when global warming becomes this big problem. They're going to ask us to save the world. We're going to be the new stewards of the environment and our programs are going to be the ones that will be initiated to save the world from global warming or whatever catastrophe.

1:51:33 So therefore we have to experiment now, get the funding and experiment now or continue our experiments so that we are ready to be the new stewards of the environment. But the problem is when you start putting up chemicals and you start doing atmospheric experiments, you start to impact agriculture, food supplies, watersheds, you start to impact everything that we depend upon for life on earth and what happens if their programs go awry? And when they were asked this, they said, well, then, you know, it's just an experimental program. You know, well, if someone gets hurt or harmed, well, so what?

1:52:16 Their attitude was very cavalier about this. And Professor Benford actually wrote a program about the Arctic and they said in his article, he even said, well, if something goes wrong, why, it will wash out eventually in the long term and if you have to sacrifice a few people or an area like the Arctic, So what? Then that's okay because it's all in the realm of scientific study. The science is in! So I think... Bad scientists at work. So I think that's pretty conclusive and I encourage everyone to go see that and stop using the chemtrails word because it just deems you as an idiot.

1:52:56 and I've certainly been at the forefront of that, but persistent jet contrails I think is without a doubt what we're seeing in the skies above us and we're being experimented on. Well, the one thing they did that did turn up quite a bit in the literature, especially in the 60s and then much later, it turns out, which is possibly the way you could create flooding in certain areas, it turns out that the cheapest way to get clouds to form is using carbon particulate in the atmosphere. And the absolute easiest way to get the carbon particulate up there is to take a regular jet fighter and turn on the afterburners and go at subsonic speeds

1:53:37 and it just throws a bunch of dirt in the air. Yeah, those are the... The black cloud. No, that's what she actually said. She studied that. That's the black persistent jet con trails. She has all kinds of different words for it, but... The only way you can get that, the only way you're going to get that black smoke out of a jet is by turning on the afterburners at speeds that don't support its use. It's like burning shit up. It's just, no, it's like a bad, you know, it's like when you don't get enough oxygen to a flame and it's all sooty. Yeah, it gets all smoky, exactly. Yeah. Well not just smoke but soot smoke, which is a specific type of smoke. Anyway, so now... Well, I find, I mean, it's not just for me, it's not just, oh well we'll follow it because... I think I'm gonna just, oh well we'll follow it and move to Paraguay. Well, you know, it's happening everywhere. This is the thing. It's like when I throw up a picture of a persistent jet con trail over the house here, which is right over the Hollywood water reservoir,

1:54:36 You know, I get pictures from everywhere and this, it is new. It is something that's been happening since around 1992 and these are experiments. We're being experimented on and no one is being honest about it. They should just you know, we should at least have a vote. I mean if we all say okay, all right It's a good idea, you know, don't least we voted about it and we had some honest information There's not a democracy. No, and it's but it's not a democracy. It's a Republican You know, they're our leaders are great leaders The one who told us that we're gonna have an attack in three months back in January something will have leaders make these decisions for us Yeah, great leaders anyway, I Found a I found that clip

1:55:20 Which one is that? Well, this is a clip that we were going to save and then I lost. And it was the laundry list. You know, we're talking about the battle between the White House and the CIA in particular. Oh, right, right, right, right. I just want to play this clip. This is the laundry list of the things that Obama has done right off the bat, because this clip is a year old, to the CIA to create part of the bad blood. These are the actions Obama took which signal to the CIA to back off. One, he restricted the CIA's use of rendition to preempt terrorism. Two, he closed secret CIA interrogation centers abroad. Three, he banned waterboarding. Four, he's closing Guantanamo. Five, he ordered captured unlawful combatants to be read Miranda rights. Six, he is trying KSM.

1:56:04 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other terrorists like Abdul Muttalab in civil courts with full constitutional rights. 7. He ordered Holder to reopen criminal probes and prosecute CIA officers for harsh interrogations. 8. He issued no diplomatic demarche or protest against Italy for convicting 23 US CIA and military officials in absentia for rendition. Our guys. And 8. 9 rather, finally he unleashed Holder to prosecute Bush policy makers like John Yoo for their counter-terrorism policies. You want to speak to that? Hold on, Owen. Yeah, well of course he didn't close Guantanamo Bay. No, and I'm sure he backed off on more than a few of those things. But that would be enough to piss off the CIA. Yeah, it seems like a good little laundry list. Yeah, yeah. So, a few things about Haiti? Well before we do that, let's do something light. I have a light because I want to get it out of here.

1:57:02 Something you know how we talk about You know the cop shows and then they take the one pixel Lation of the license plate and push a button and then you can see it clearly zoom in rotate look in the reflection in the mirror Ah, it's our man. There's a new one No, please don't tell me. Yes, this is all new. This is a new video trick, another new impossible video trick. This is a beauty. See if you can catch it. This is from the TV show Blue Bloods. Okay, hold on, here we go. Actually, the shooter's out of frame there. Where were you again? I'm right over there. Do you have any other cameras? Another angle? Can't see much of anything here.

1:57:46 Well, we're gonna need to take this for evidence. You know, Tarou can enhance the video, maybe expand the view. Yeah. What can you tell us about this guy, King? He's out of frame, but somehow we can magically expand the view. Isn't that a gem? Oh, this is great. Hey, why don't we do that for the 9-11 attack of the Pentagon? Because, you know... Yes, expand the view. Just expand the view. We should be able to see it no problem. That'd be perfect. Oh man, well meanwhile Haiti is gone completely, it's complete chaos. And so as we uncovered on the previous program, a lot of this, a lot of the problem is about the land ownership.

1:58:31 And this is really coming to a head because I think John, you and I presume that what's happening is the Clintons are moving in and saying, hey, this is a nice spot. You know, we've had beauty queens and all kinds of important beautiful women taking pictures of happy people, but really they're just doing land surveying. and uh... so there's you know there's all these camps and now they've got the rude boys which of course of the thugs showing up and telling people you gotta get off this land or else and we're talking one point three million people in tents are now being kicked off the land because this land is now to be developed uh... by uh... well the united nations obviously

1:59:19 is protecting the interest. Who's representing the United Nations as the envoy? That would be, let me think, oh Bill Clinton. Oh okay. Right. So In this report from the Guardian, a shortage of funds has been compounded by the delay. So what they're saying now is, well, the money has been delayed because we don't, you know, the people on land they don't own and, you know, it's like what happened to the emergency of all this? So in this article it literally states of the pledge six billion only two billion has been committed of which only seven hundred and thirty two million and not a penny more has been spent mostly trying to put the government back on its feet. So what does that mean?

2:00:04 putting the government back on its feet means getting the right guy elected. Now on the 7th, that will be Tuesday, is when they will announce the winner of the recent elections of which, and I have tons of reports here, 90% of the people did not show up to vote. In fact there's video from al jazeera which have also linked to of the patients ripping down posters of jude celestine the prodigy of outgoing president prevail the p p p protege president prevail uh... ripping it down burning for burning uh... all kinds of propaganda that's been plastered all over uh... all over the uh... the city uh... and and uh... now

2:00:54 There's like pandemonium is broken out. They the Haitians are killing people who are who they claim are Propagating the formula being the cholera. They've lynched 15 people who they say were trying to spread more cholera. They say, well of course this is, you know, this is kind of crazy. A dozen people accused of importing cholera to a region that was spared were killed with machetes and stones and their corpses were burned in the streets. They were accused of witchcraft related to cholera. So, you know, when this happens then everything's out of control. People are completely just freaking out.

2:01:39 Now, why is Haiti so important? A couple of things. Do you know what something in America that we use every single day, it's kind of out of season right now, but every day we use this article in these United States and it's pretty unique to these United States and it's made in Haiti. Do you know what that is, John? I actually heard this before but I'd forgotten about it. Baseballs. all baseballs are pretty much all made in Haiti. I thought they were made in the Dominican Republic. Well, close enough, right? Apparently they're all made in Haiti. Now this Jude Celestine, who of course should be the winner because he is the protege of President Preval, he and his mistress Tania Shishimi

2:02:42 uh... has long-standing connections with the cocaine trafficking through haiti this is this is the thing i was kind of looking for what what drug is it and it turns out that uh... it really is the cocaine industry that's being run through there and so this is why haiti is a very important isn't a cocaine the uh... was that was a drug of choice running through me in arkansas yes let me think who again is the envoy uh... Bill Clinton. You see it all comes back to Clinton. Every single piece of this. So Jude Celestine is of course the protégé of René Praval, outgoing president. His best friend, Raynald Bonnefield, was arrested during the Aristide presidency with 53 kilos of cocaine in his car and like 200 grand in cash.

2:03:36 And everything I can find points to billions of dollars of cocaine running through Haiti. That would explain a lot. It does, doesn't it? And by the way, where's the media? Where is where Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper? Where are you on all this? Well after they loaded his plane filled with cocaine and shipped it back Unbeknownst to him. Yeah, probably yeah, why would he have anything to do with it and But you know those private jets going back and forth must have been that's not a bad way to move stuff out so the girls in the So these are American companies by the way to make the baseballs the the girls there are paid $1.40 a day

2:04:23 And making baseballs is not a good business. It can hurt children making them. Also, bauxite, sugar. What's sisal? Bauxite. What's bauxite and what's sisal? Bauxite is the progenitor to making aluminum. Bauxite is aluminum ore. Do you know what also is made in Haiti? No. The Disney clothes. Oh! Yes, that's right. Disney clothes. In fact, this is a good little thing here. The factory girls get eight cents an hour and Walmart sells the Pocahontas pajamas for $11.97. So it probably takes them like two seconds to make one. Yeah. Fabric's nothing. Yeah, that's a good profit.

2:05:13 So and it's good to know that Walmart's doing stuff other than just buying from China. Yeah. Yeah, that's good It's at least it's America's China. They pay too much. Anyway, they have to 20 cents or something like that He's a sense. It's way too much It's way too much United States of Europe, of course And then I had this is my last theory for the day and then I'm done Angela Merkel warned that Germany could abandon the euro This is the meme spreading across Gitmo nation Europe uh... yeah i like this meme yeah i i like it too uh... here's the little too convenient for our show well this is this is why i was a little bit suspicious but how's this for a theory so first of all we give wikiLeaks a lot of credibility right with all these cables and then we know that uh... that Assange has threatened to come out with news about a bank what if this bank is either A

2:06:10 not an American bank but it could be a central bank or could be a European bank but when what so what happened 2008 the bank screwed up and then they Cheney yeah Cheney and Bernanke they went to Congress with one paragraph and said here's the new law you're gonna pass you're gonna give us a couple trillion dollars if not there will be pandemonium martial law and we're all going to die right was that kind of the way it went Yeah, kind of. I don't know about Cheney, I guess he was involved somehow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they had all those secret meetings, and people recused themselves. Yeah, but they did say all hell is going to break loose if they didn't do this now. Martial law, they literally threatened some of the congressmen with martial law. Okay. FEMA camps. So now, if you are a bank, and it's all messed up, and it's all screwed up, but you basically want to do one last big mega massive crazy ass grab the money,

2:07:06 The only way that could really work is if there was a bank run and everyone went nuts and wanted to take their money and of course there is no money because the banks through the fractional banking system hold about what like 1% now is actually in cash if that. Everything else is just digital. Everyone runs to the bank and says I want it. Now two weeks ago we had Sheila Bear of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation say, well, you know, yeah we insure all your accounts but, you know, it may not be there forever and, you know, kind of like, remember the cover your ass memo? Yeah, it's kind of like, well we got money but we don't can't, you know, yeah, they beat around the bush. So if the euro actually collapses because of some unbelievable information that WikiLeaks put out there,

2:07:56 I think that there would be a massive bank run in all nations all around the world. Everyone running saying I want my money. There is no money and that would be the bailout of all mother of bailouts. And that would be the fight just to just everything implodes upon itself and the bankers make off with whatever is left. It's an interesting theory. It could be a huge setup. I'm waiting, all the stuff from WikiLeaks, we've talked about almost every single thing that comes out, whatever, gee, big news. I'm actually thinking right now, yeah, I mean it's a possibility. I'm not saying it's like, I don't think that's what's going to happen. First of all, I think it's going to be, I think the WikiLeaks folks are going to realize that they have some great blackmail material.

2:08:45 I mean that's what this really amounts to. And we have, nobody's brought up the blackmail concept. Which is that if you got, say you have the goods on the bank, say it's the Bank of America or say it's the Bundesbank or whatever the German banks call it, Deutsche Bank, or whatever. And you've got the goods, you've got all these memos. I mean, you know, it might be a wise thing to stave off the release of these memos with a little contribution, if you know what I'm saying. It's not beyond these organizations to ask for a contribution now and again. I mean, Jesse Jackson's known for... A contribution. Coming out with a kind of a, you know, we don't like the way you're hiring at your company, you know, and we might want to make a stink about it. But then again, you know, our organization needs a little cash

2:09:32 Yeah, you might want to hook us up now that our PayPal has been turned off. That kind of thing. I mean they haven't done it that I know of but it seems the logical next step. Not that people are thinking, not that everybody's corrupt but you know it's a corrupt world they know it is and they see they have the evidence so what am I supposed to say? Maybe, but you know this bank run thing you know it'll be very interesting to see I mean I think something may come down this week. I don't think so. I don't think anything's gonna happen. There's supposed to be something happening. There's a prediction for the 11th or something like that. No, no, no. December 10th is when the bank run has been called for. It's already been set up by the soccer star from Get More Nation Stinky Cheese. But you know, if you really want to do something massive, you need to, again, I'm back to SimCity, you need a couple of things in place. You need some credible form of information, some credible source. So that could be WikiLeaks coming out with, oh,

2:10:33 these guys are all out of money you need people like Merkel saying we're just gonna give up on this euro I mean you know I don't know here's what I'd like to here's what I'd like to find out I'd like to find out if the Germans are printing marks hmm interesting just you can't just drop the currency and then not have anything that everything ready to go right at the ready right Right. And somebody knows, I mean these printing presses, they don't crank up a bunch of money without somebody knowing about it because the people that run the printing presses are all usually union people and they're, you know, they're chatty. I'm sure they don't understand what a non-disclosure is and they could just say, yeah, we're printing marks. I mean, you know. Or you go straight to a cashless society.

2:11:16 That would be a perfect way to do it. I think that right now is too hard to do that. I don't think, I think it would be very difficult to pull that off without causing a huge disruption. They have to be printing marks. They're printing them now. If you looked around the areas of, you know, where the printing presses are located, there's just specific areas you wouldn't know if you lived in Germany, I'm sure. uh... you did the economy that local areas somehow there's a buzz going on or something like that right by that means the presses are up and running well this is a call out then to uh... are our producers and i think we have a night or two don't we get more nation do it slump maybe mhm and would be very interesting are going to deny out to uh... to wrap things up a little update on hollywood whackers i'm sure you are heard that uh... the police uh... went after this uh...

2:12:07 Guy of interest person of interest who then shot himself This is in the the publicist slaying of Ronnie Chasen uh... you heard about that john yeah we talked about the last show but the guy should well the police say well he probably wasn't connected this is a good idea shannon say it is a shit cop showed up in a shot himself for no apparent reason but he wasn't really connected as a nothing to see here nothing going on whatsoever uh... today and also really interesting there's a new book out which i don't think is actually it certainly hasn't hit my kindle of for the iphone or are the i book store This is about Mark David Chapman killing John Lennon.

2:12:50 And so this book is of course that you know this is all about the catcher in the rye situation and this guy was apparently a CIA asset and they wanted to get rid of John Lennon because he was you know he was preaching peace and that was not a good thing at the time. That's lame. I don't know. He's preaching peace like he's the only guy who's ever done that. No but he's already marginalized as kind of a nutcase. Well he he was the guy that he was buying billboards I mean he would. So what? Yeah well back in the day a billboard, you know we didn't have internet and stuff. I'm not buying that in the least. Okay. I think he's just a nutball. I mean he may have been assassinated but I don't think it'd be for that. And uh then the the last thing from Gitmo Nation, Deutschland was just as kind of a light-ass topic. But German scientists say the science is now in. Kids should definitely be chewing chewing gum at school.

2:13:46 It's very good for you. It stimulates the brain. What? They're just trying to poison the public? Yes, the Ministry of Aspartame. The positive effect of chewing probably lies in the fact that part of the brain is in the brain stem that keeps us alert and is constantly stimulated as a result of which the attention level rises as does the flow of blood to the brain and with it the ability to learn says Siegfried Lerl, head of the Society of Brain Training and a scientist at the University of Erlangen. especially the sugar-free variety. No. Yes, he says sugar-free. It gets so good. How transparent is this bull crap? Sugar-free gum has an added health benefit that it keeps your teeth clean during meals. Yeah, and poisons you with aspartame.

2:14:40 I mean, no agenda says do not, repeat, do not chew gum with aspartame. Do not. It is poison for you. And talking about that sort of thing, we do have a Talking Points memo coming out on Wednesday. I'm going to send it to everybody on the mailing list. Get on the mailing list today or tomorrow, you'll be left out. by signing up for the mailing list which is on the No Agenda show site and Dvorak.org and wherever the show is, Curry.com, we post a little thing you can sign up. And that'll be out Wednesday and it's gonna be about, by your suggestion, it's gonna be about the TSA and the talking points that you need to use if you get into an argument with people.

2:15:25 Concentrating on the fact that the machines are dangerous. Yeah, and these just little things you can use and again You want to be very slow and cautious and you'll learn you'll you'll strike out a couple of times but do not get angry but you know we've got some really good talking points in there you know that uh... the one that is the same this is the way the political parties operate if you watch the john stewart show when he does the the deconstruction of a million people on those and those morning talk shows they all you know they're like these you put forty republicans up there and they all spew the exact same talking point because that's what these political parties do that the republicans do it these are actual little buzzwords buzz terms

2:16:07 you know little things you throw out there time and time and time again you just pounded with these home and then they become means in the public domain and that's what we're doing we're gonna producing if you can take it or leave it some people would say with your just as bad we think that he has a is great they're helping protect us if you believe that you don't need the talking points memo don't sign up for it but uh... you will uh... uses with great enjoyment i'm sure But the one that always works for me is the dosimeters. When you say, you know, it's really weird but this is just a practice run, right? It's really weird but I read that the TSA guys were not allowed to wear dosimeters. You know, that's what your doctor and your dentist wears, that little thing. And at the end of the week they hand it in and they check in to see if they've had too much radiation because it's cumulative, you know, it builds up over time. And they're not allowed to wear those. That's really weird, isn't it?

2:16:59 And you kind of question that and you watch, you watch people go, really? And then you've got them hooked. And then you've got 15 more you can unload. How come these x-ray machines which people go into aren't run by radiologists? Yeah, that's really... Isn't that weird? That's kind of interesting the way that works, yeah. And do you think that they'll show up at sporting events and banks and schools and... And even if it's a small amount, will all those little amounts add up to one big amount over time if you have to go through scanners all the time? I know, it's just stuff I ask myself. Anyway, so that's the kind of idea that we have with these and we have we will have them for We have various topics that you if you listen to the show, you know Which ones they are we hound the pound home certain things certain issues we believe in it's not like we have an agenda the agenda is the Is the it was kind of you know open source information and so that's what these things are you can die again again if you don't want This sort of thing don't sign up for the list But if you want to get it and see what we're doing you can sign up for

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2:18:46 Well, we also discussed other ways education officials are trying to keep kids in school. The Toronto District School Board, for example, is studying the idea of paying low-income children if they come to school to get good grades using a carrot instead of a stick, so to speak. David Kobos has a very different approach. He's a judge in Midland, Texas, and he sometimes orders students to wear a GPS anklet, the kind used to track parolees. Judge Kobos is in Midland, Texas. Good morning. Good morning. How did you get this idea of sentencing truant teenagers with ankle monitors? Well, in Texas there are laws, compulsory school attendance laws, which require

2:19:23 students to attend school from kindergarten up to their 18th birthday, compulsory school attendance laws. And simply what I'm doing is fulfilling my duties as a judge to enforce those particular laws. And the law is structured that gives me some discretion in what is reasonable to ensure that the orders of the court and and state law are being followed we do have an attorney general opinion who has confirmed that the use of ankle monitors in failure to attend cases is reasonable uh... and i started using them before our state attorney general was asked uh... whether that was reasonable because as a judge i determined that it was uh... in how i got the idea is we have a pretrial office here which

2:20:17 if an individual is unable to bond out of jail because they don't have the financial means the county has a program whereby they will put up the bond at a reduced rate uh... for the defendant to bond out so therefore we're not overcrowding our jails and they use gps monitors and so uh... i just got together with the pretrial people asked them if i could borrow a couple of those monitors for a test and I installed them on a couple of young people that were having problems at home, running away, not going to school, and it worked.

2:20:56 Well, it tells us their location. For example, if a person is chronically skipping school, then we place a monitor on them. For example, if they're at home and they're supposed to be at school between 730 and 3, then we get an alert that they're outside of the prescribed zone, and therefore we can hone in or send the troops the constable, and I have a staff of four people. I've essentially created a probation department within my court. Then we can pinpoint the offender and have them picked up and taken to school. So some would say that's pretty extreme. What kind of a reaction has there been to this approach? Well, I haven't had the ACLU contact me yet. Parents are appreciative.

2:21:46 The young people, believe it or not, are appreciative. I've had some come in and ask to be fitted with a monitor and I'll ask them why? And they'll say because it will help me. So it kind of serves an electronic conscience as well. So under what circumstances would you sentence a student to wear such a GPS if they don't ask? Well, it depends on the circumstances. Number one, we may have a student that continually runs away from home or leaves the house and doesn't come back until 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning. We may have a student that is involved in drug activity or alcohol activity.

2:22:24 activity or is just constantly, chronically skipping school. For example, I use what I call the three-strike rule. Once they get filed on to come to court, that's strike one. If they violate the court's order, they're brought back to court and cautioned about it and the consequences of violating the court order. The third time could include some sanctions such as suspension of their driver's license, It could be a 48-hour confinement in a juvenile lockup facility for the weekend. It could be placement of a GPS monitor.

2:23:01 So what are the causes of truancy as you see it? Well, there's a lot of factors. I mean, it could be a lack of motivation on the student's part. It could be uninvolved parents, because we know that a child's success or failure in school is directly related to parental involvement. The more a parent or guardian are involved, we see statistically that the children have better attendance, better behavior, and a better educational experience. On the other hand, parents who aren't involved, we see behavior issues, we see attendance issues, and we see academic issues as well. So drug use, learning disabilities,

2:23:44 uh... lack of resources uh... there's a number of reasons why like it uh... uh... don't think that schools important there's even complaints that the school system isn't the best in the world uh... and and people say well you're ordering kids to go to a crappy school well the law doesn't give me authority over our a crappy school or a crappy teacher, I tell parents, look, you've got an elected school board. The school is yours. You pay taxes. It is your school. So I suggest you get involved at the campus level. You get involved with the school board and you do whatever you think you need to do on that part to enhance the school.

2:24:29 You talk about uninvolved parents. Have you thought about putting ankle bracelets on them? Making them spend time with their kids? Yes, I have. And what I do occasionally is, more often than not, is I will order parents to go to school, to spend time with their child in school, to bring me proof that they're doing that. And do you do that? Does that work? Sure it does. Sure it does. And the ACLU hasn't gone after you on that one either? The Civil Liberties Union? Nope. I've had, I've ordered parents, look, you're going to walk little Johnny to class, you're going to sit in little Johnny's class for an hour, and you're going to get the teacher and the principal to sign off, and you're going to bring me that proof. If you fail to bring me the proof, you're in violation of the court order, and since you're an adult, then we'll have a contempt hearing, and I can fine you in jail for 72 hours plus issue a monetary fine if you violate the order of the court.

2:25:21 So, but we're not talking about criminal charges here. How much leeway do you have as a judge to deal? No, we are talking about criminal charges. It is a criminal offense. It is a criminal offense. It is a Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $500 plus court costs for a conviction of failure to attend school or parent contributing to truancy. So how do you measure success? Do you have numbers that show if this is working? Yes, we measure success based on the the daily average attendance of the school. We measure success by each individual student's attendance, looking at their attendance prior to, looking at their attendance while they're into the court order and their attendance following their experience in court. And I've been doing this for 12 years now. And I started out with a 95% non-compliance rate. 12 years later,

2:26:15 we have about a 90 to 95 percent compliance rate. So we've turned it upside down. And academically, how do students who come through your court perform once they're back in school? It seems that the majority of them, once they go to school and they make the effort, then it looks like their grades are increasing at least one grade level. And what level are we talking? We're talking high school? We're talking from F to D, to C's and B's and A's. And what grades? We're talking from kindergarten up to the twelfth grade. Oh, you wouldn't do this to a kindergarten kid, would you? I'd do it to a parent. The parent has to make sure that the child is on time. I order them to walk the child to class. I may have them, I order them to sit in class if we have a behavior issue.

2:27:11 uh... and they have to bring me proof updated attendance reports they may have to get a teacher to sign off on the fact that they've walked little johnny to class every morning like i've ordered them to and if they don't uh... and i tell them up front there are consequences to violating the order of the court okay well judge kobus we have to leave it there but thank you for sharing your thoughts on how to deal with this with us bullshit Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gimmo Nation National Anthem. In the morning, Gimmo Nation, we are all charged up to be.

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