Episode 250 · Thursday, 4 November 2010

Transportation Sexual Assault (TSA)

Federal agencies face a constitutional reckoning over airport pat-downs while high-speed rail lobbyists and defense contractors coordinate a massive grab for public land and tax dollars.

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The Transportation Security Administration faces a growing backlash as Lubbock Aviation Director James Loomis denounces invasive pat-downs as Fourth Amendment violations. While Michael Chertoff and security consultants push for the deployment of X-ray backscatter perversion machines, physicists at UCSF warn that these scanners concentrate radiation on the skin. The agency has reportedly banned employees from wearing dosimeters to hide the true extent of radiation exposure from the public.

President Obama’s visit to India serves as a massive sales mission for the U.S. defense industry, involving $10 billion in F-16 jets and Harpoon missiles. Meanwhile, the American Public Transportation Association and MSNBC host Chris Matthews advocate for the use of eminent domain to seize land for high-speed rail projects. In California, the defeat of Proposition 19 signals a win for neo-prohibitionist media campaigns, even as Kaiser Permanente sets a Guinness World Record for mass flu shot administration at Qualcomm Stadium.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 250th episode milestone with the debut of the Gitmo Nation National Anthem. The ceremony includes the elevation of new knights like Sir Tristan Lennon under the value-for-value model. Dr. Niels Harrit also presents evidence of nanothermite found in World Trade Center dust, challenging the official narrative of the September 11th attacks.


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CHAPTER 01 / 28 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 250, Gitmo Nation National Anthem

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the 250th episode of the No Agenda show from a temporary studio in San Francisco. The hosts introduce the "Gitmo Nation National Anthem," composed by Jeff Smith, and discuss its potential longevity in American culture. They also acknowledge "boots on the ground" listeners and the milestone of reaching a quarter-millennial episode count.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· episode 250· jeff smith· national anthem

00:00 Do they have some special privilege that makes them, that they can grope people? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, November 7th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 250. This is no agenda. Coming to you from the temporary Crackpot Command Center in San Francisco, in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of the Bay Area. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's raining, and of course we're late, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!

00:40 In the morning to you, John. Is it morning still? It is, yes, barely. In the morning to all the human resources in the chatroom at noagendachat.net, all charged up and ready to go the way your government likes you. Go ahead. And all the ships at sea. And all boots on the ground. Oh, we have boots on the ground. Do we have any boots on the ground listening to us? We got boots on the ground, absolutely. It was requested that I say that. Oh, from somebody with boots on the ground? Yeah, we got boots on the ground, baby. How about that? Yeah, how about it? Hey, episode 250, John, congratulations on our quarter... quarter... what is that? The... something.

01:22 I'll look it up quarter millennial. No, I don't know what it is. It's something well. It's an opportunity missed. Yeah, we didn't do a promotion Yeah, who's in charge of promotions? I am yeah, so I can't count apparently no good job way to go That's okay. We got a 1212 promotion come I get there actually a promotion I 1212 like in 2012 that's your promotion Somebody came up with a good idea for a promotion which I should I could mention if you want to get right into it Yeah, sure When I but we we have some executive producers and one of them came up with a new donation meme He also contributed $250 all by check, but he's calls it the quad niner. It's a $99.99 donation and when received it requires Adam to declare niner niner niner niner

02:13 Okay, I mean it's a chore but I'm done for it. Niner niner niner niner. You didn't even do it right. You gotta have something you have to actually say it as though you were saying it. Can I tell you what the problem is? You can't say niner? Here's the problem. So I'm in San Francisco in the hotel room. We're set up on the mobile rig. Now if you recall, the mobile rig has everything built into the laptop, which means I have about a 20 to 30 millisecond delay on my voice from what I'm saying, what I'm hearing in my headphones. You with me?

02:50 That's terrible. Yeah, it is terrible. Well, you get used to it after a while, but it just takes, you know, it takes like five or six minutes of talking to get into it. So saying things like niner, niner, niner, niner. If I took my headphones off, niner, niner, niner, niner. See, I can say it easier, but it's like a cruel joke. This doesn't take place at the other No, because I've got the whole setup. I've got the external gear, but otherwise, you know, we then we don't have the processing You can't hear the jingles. You know, there's a whole bunch of stuff that doesn't work that way or You're gonna hear me with such an incredible delay that it also doesn't work So I'd rather take some of that burden on myself, which I I of course do as a good little slave to the show. I

03:36 Well, I like the idea so we'll add it to our Dvorak.org slash NA site. There was also... If anybody... just to hear you try to say it. Now of course you could cheat and just make a kind of a clip. No, I'll do it every single time. You just pop the clip every time. Pop, pop. Gee, he says it exactly the same every time. You know, we had another idea for... let me just find it here. Here it is. Another idea that one of our human resources slash producers putting together. It's a Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable Amazon wish list item. So he's actually built us a page which he's now finishing up. He's going to send it off to you to plug it into our donation site.

04:24 And there's a little button there if you want for Christmas, for the holidays, if you want a no agenda knighthood, you could add that to your Amazon wish list. Yeah, that's up and running. Didn't you hear what I just said? Yeah, I'm sorry. I was reading. You were clipping your nails. I know I wasn't. I was reading that, you know, I realized that Craig who sent us the 999 or ID, I'm scanning over his thing. I don't have his last name and I know it's on the check downstairs and I'm thinking, how can I ask Adam to just stall, rush downstairs and get a guy's name, but I'll do it later. Okay, anyway, so I wasn't listening. No, I think the idea is really good. It is a great idea I remember when it came in it was a great idea and then this and our friend is going to our producer is going to Give us the the page code the page code right perfect. All right How about thanking some of those boots on the grounds on the grounds? Foots on the boots the footsies the foots on the boots you have some executive producers today starting with Craig here from CKP creative

05:25 Who actually his his $250 donation is combined with the 99 9 or 9 or 9 or 9 or don't? That's Craig's Craig of CPK creative. Yeah, okay at CKP I'm sorry CKP Creative calm and he's looking to boost the copywriting side of his business. It could use some karma So give him some for this 250 You've got karma So I'll get, um, anyway, Craig, um, Craig, I'll get his last name later. Uh, yeah, I mean, who needs it? I mean, it's just like credit, man. How can you imagine seeing a CSI? I've got this huge long letter that he wrote and it just says Craig at the bottom. And you know, I gotta go back and get the check. Okay. All right. We'll put it in the show notes. Curiously, I actually made that point of doing that, but then

06:21 He's an associate executive producer. Our executive producer this week is Baron von Pelsmacher. Le Baron, okay. From Belgium. And he's completing his knighthood for his godson Peter and to celebrate the 250th episode, thank you very much, of Noah Djinn. I'm glad somebody noticed in the morning to you both. Yes, Baron and Baron Light. Scott Schoenberger Malibu $250 wait a minute wasn't Scott on didn't he? Support us last show did he I think so we may have a crossover. I'll look at a lot We have a crossover. We have a crossover stand by we have a crossover Anyway, that's it. That's our executive and the associate executive producers Craig Steven and possibly Scott

07:11 Craig with no last name, Steven, who is basically paying my rent. And possibly Scott. Oh, it's a great list. It's perfect. Well, we highly appreciate it. Craig of the... Eric will go look at the spreadsheet and see if he's duplicated his name. Craig of CKPCreative.com, we really appreciate your support, particularly the trouble you went through to send us a check for that. This is a big deal, and it'll be even a bigger deal when you have your last name and we'll put it in the credits for the show. In the show notes at noagendashow.com. Baron Von Pelsmacher, thank you once again. So I guess we have a knighthood coming today for his godchild? Actually, two. Two? Right? Yeah. Well, one of our $50 a month. Oh, finally paid off, right? Yeah, these just started coming in now. That's good.

08:04 but it will be for Peter, son of Baron von Pelsmacher. And Scott Schoenberger, we appreciate... We think we appreciate your donation. It's horrible, John. And it's almost as bad as the setup. Anyway, it's a real credit. Unlike Hollywood, we actually will vouch for you if someone calls you on it. All the rest of you out there, you need to go out and propagate the formula. It is very simple. It goes like this. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. John I need the national anthem. I've been singing it all day. Do you know the words yet? Not yet I know them by heart and I and Jeff you're gonna sing it. Yes, the everyone should sing it. Are you kidding me the Jeff Smith? I have to say will go down in history as a brilliant man because you know how I

09:08 You know, throughout history, national anthems have been put together and some of them are just so incredibly impactful and powerful. This one, the Gitmo Nation National Anthem, is so incredibly good. It's put together so well and so smartly. that I concur with your assertion from a week ago that indeed in a hundred years from now children will be singing this at school. It's so clear to me now. Here we go! Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem! In the morning, Gitmo Nation, we are all charged up to be

09:50 Human resources and services in all lands and ships at sea From the east to west, down under the lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted, slain with a hymn of nation song And I think the best part is when they do this at women's field hockey games in the future. Because of course this is what it'll have to be. We'll have to start slow before we get to baseball and football. And you'll have like Mary J. Blige or someone will be singing this. And when they get to the part, you know, we are happy and distracted slaves. Right?

CHAPTER 02 / 28 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Initiatives, Accessibility, Show Note Archives

Producers of the show have launched several technical initiatives, including a script to archive show notes and artwork following the shutdown of the drop.io service. A request from an Indian producer highlights the need for non-table-based show notes to improve accessibility for visually impaired listeners. Additionally, the hosts mention the availability of custom email addresses and a new Amazon wish list for knighthood donations.

rss feed· omni outliner· accessibility· show notes· drop.io· email forwarding

10:50 It'll be just like, you know, like your own one. The way I see it, I envision it differently. First of all, I envision that you're never going to sing it again. That would be a good vision. And I think that the girls in this field hockey team would be standing there and at the very end, you would get motivation and just as they finish up, they all turn around, bend over and pull their shorts down. No, no, they just flip their skirts up. That's all that's needed. Just a little flip. Yeah, yeah, it's good. John, before we jump into anything, I just wanted to mention a couple of PR initiatives. Oh, wait, wait, stop. Yeah. Craig's last name is Peters Craig Peters is our associate executive producer came over the $99.99 idea great. Thank you very much Craig Peters got it Couple of PR promotions. Thanks to Jeff M our producer who heard of the drop.io issues

11:43 and he wrote a little script that parses our RSS feed and he now has created a zip archive of all of our show notes and artwork and there's a link in the show notes to that. That's a great initiative. I'd like to remind everybody that gotnoagenda.com email addresses are still available and you can have that set up as a full-blown email address or a forwarding address. Then we have, let me see, Oh, this was actually a request from Shubhash, or maybe it's Subhash, one of our Indian producers, although I believe he's Indian and in the United States. He noticed that the show notes are not accessible because they're built with tables. So, I do think accessibility is very important so that blind people, who I'm sure we have many of them listening, or those who cannot see well,

12:45 What's the politically correct term for that, John? Can't see well. Hey! You who can't see well. And he actually suggested, because I use Omni Outliner to create the show notes, that one of our producers create a plugin that exports the show notes as a non-table based nested list system, whatever. I think the people who understand what I'm talking about will know. But it is important that people who can't see well listeners are able to check out the show notes. And then we'll be talking about surveys today on the show, I think. And maybe we should just leave that for a moment and talk about it when it comes up because that is the obvious promotional effort. A couple of people have glommed onto that. We need to release a survey.

CHAPTER 03 / 28 Discussion

American Public Transportation Association, High-Speed Rail Lobbying

The American Public Transportation Association (APTA) released a survey claiming 67% of Americans support high-speed rail, which the hosts characterize as a biased lobbying effort. APTA is identified as a major Washington D.C. pressure group receiving significant funding from industrial giants like Siemens. The discussion suggests the survey is designed to manufacture consent for massive public spending on rail infrastructure.

apta· high-speed rail· siemens· lobbying· washington dc· transportation survey

13:39 John. Yeah, no, I agree 100% with that. 100%. 100%. Because if you have a survey and there's a couple that are floating around that we'll be talking about today. Yeah, you get a bunch of publicity. You get a lot of publicity. So we need to come up with the perfect survey where people go, oh really? I didn't know that. That's amazing. And then it'll all link back to us. Yeah, the survey that came out this week, of course. is the one that shows that most people want high-speed rail. Yes, that would be the one. It was amazing. What a crock. Well, the best part about it is... I'd use it. Well, who created the survey? Yeah, the guys who are selling high-speed rail. Exactly. Because that's the way it always is. Yeah, here it is.

14:17 This is, and no one questions it. It's just repeated everywhere. It's the survey from the American Public Transportation Association. And by the way, and they're talking about public transportation, they're talking about light rail and the like. They're not talking about, you know, this is not the Air Transport Association or anybody else that would do a more objective survey. No, of course not. It's only for trains and buses essentially. And I looked at the, and I linked to these guys' site, the, APTA, oh my god, this must be a huge lobbying group. They're in Washington DC of course. They've got all kinds of amazing people on their board and they've got tools, all kinds of tools for you to use. And they got lots of money from Siemens. Who knows where it's coming from, but I was blown away. And then this starts to get discussed on some shows. I got a clip here, Chris Matthews,

CHAPTER 04 / 28 Discussion

Chris Matthews, Rapid Rail, Eminent Domain Advocacy

MSNBC host Chris Matthews is criticized for his vocal support of "Rapid Rail" as a solution to economic decline in the American industrial heartland. Matthews suggests that the federal government should use eminent domain to seize land for 300-mile-per-hour train lines, comparing the project to the Lincoln-era transcontinental railroad. The hosts argue that this "post-industrial" rhetoric is a way to manage the redundancy of American manufacturing workers.

chris matthews· msnbc· rapid rail· eminent domain· industrial heartland· arnold schwarzenegger

15:13 You've got to listen, this guy, what is he on? CNBC? MSNBC? MSNBC. So he is shilling for high-speed rail and in this clip he actually ends up with the key component of what it will take to finally shepherd this into our lives, this useless idea, totally useless idea. Listen to this. A really strong thought here, and it's political as well as economic, and I've been thinking about it a long time, having grown up in Pennsylvania. If you look at the economic and the political results, let's start with them yesterday. From Scranton, Pennsylvania, from eastern Pennsylvania all the way across to Wisconsin, all the major Democratic offices went to Republicans. It was a complete wipeout from that whole area from Scranton to Oshkosh, if you will.

16:03 because that's the industrial heartland of the country. The Democrats did pretty well on the coasts, out in California, on the west coast and on the east coast. They held their own. But it's that whole industrial area that feels like there's no future for it, especially older men who feel like they can be basically become redundant in this post-industrial area. I really think he has to think about infrastructure. It's a boring word. Eddie Rindell, Bloomberg and even Arnold Schwarzenegger have been talking it up. He has some allies here. I think he has to talk about rapid rail. He has to talk about... Okay, first of all, you hear the new meme, John? There was a couple of them in there. I heard... Rapid Rail is the one I'm thinking of. Oh no, there was an earlier one in there that I picked up on. Can you play the clip again? I'll nail it this time. Oh, you're going to pay attention? Okay, here we go.

16:53 Charlie, I have a really strong thought here and it's political as well as economic and I've been thinking about it a long time, having grown up in Pennsylvania. If you look at the economic and the political results, let's start with them yesterday. From Scranton, Pennsylvania, from Eastern Pennsylvania all the way across to Wisconsin, all the major Democratic offices went to Republicans. It was a complete wipeout from that whole area from Scranton to Oshkosh, if you will. because that's the industrial heartland of the country. The Democrats did pretty well on the coasts, out in California, on the west coast and on the east coast. They held their own. But it's that whole industrial area that feels like there's no future for it, especially older men who feel like they can basically become redundant in this post-industrial area.

17:34 are out there you hear anything there are you uh... you know there's double the post-industrial area he said it twice he just said it again when you have a lot of post-industrial era so he's saying look give give up in this that the means that the underlying message of the mean is give up on our manufacturing. We haven't got it anymore. So we have our older men who are now going to be redundant. Shut up, slave, and go be redundant. Shut up, you redundant slave. Redundant slave. Now listen to where he takes this. I really think he has to think about infrastructure. It's a boring... Rapid rail, by the way. I love it. It rolls off the tongue. Rapid rail.

18:10 Eddie Rindell, Bloomberg and even Arnold Schwarzenegger. And even Arnold Schwarzenegger! I mean, if even Arnold Schwarzenegger said it, it's gonna be great! He has some allies here. I think he has to talk about rapid rail. He has to start bringing back a market, a public market for steel, for heavy industry. The Chinese have done it with rapid rail. The French have done it a long time ago with Tejaveh, with the Channel. I think he has to say America has to reunite itself by rail, something really dramatic, and do it as a capital budget item. I don't think he can just say I'm adding on to the current deficit. But Lincoln did it during the Civil War with tremendous economic stress. Eisenhower did it in the 50s with the highway system. I think he has to do something grand that reignites the industrial heartland. And that would also reignite their imaginations and give them a sense of a future for those guys in the older industries. Chris, I'm the realtor.

19:01 What? Is he crazy? He gets crazier, but he actually, this guy is so much a shill for this that he actually tells the truth about what's really gonna happen with this rapid rail. Tay-Jay-Vay, whatever he says. Yeah, Tay-Jay-Vay, because you know, it's like, I know what I'm talking about, Tay-Jay-Vay, which is just French for High-speed rail by the way, I want to mention that you cut you touched on it but anytime anyone strings out a bunch of So-and-so so-and-so so-and-so and they do it more more than three people and then they use the word even even yeah Which which wraps it up which makes it all inclusive that is to convey the thought to the listener or the reader that Everybody's on board. Yeah, and you're stupid if you know if you're not on board. Yeah, this means you the science is in basic

19:50 Is that what it means? Really? Science is in. Well, here we go. Yeah, because these are countries that were living in mud huts about five years ago. Give me a break. But it's important that we, you know, this is the ministry of truth speaking. This is what you're going to be hearing a lot of. These are the actual arguments you will be listening to over the next months and years to come. This is what it's going to be. So you can be on the lookout for it. And oh, there's so much more. Yeah, I'm not sure we're a real country. Japan and... Well, right now it's fly over country. You live in, you're out in San Francisco, so much of America.

20:39 has been hollowed out by the way that's nice you're San Francisco shut up you're an elitist mother... right? yeah yeah San Francisco shut up socially by the fact that we fly from New York to Los Angeles and San Francisco the whole part of the country Cleveland Detroit they're dying Chicago is always going to be an interesting exception but St. Louis all those cities could be reunited as part of a country again that's united across the continent if we have rapid rail three... let me get this straight He wants us to take the train from Los Angeles to New York? Is that what he's advocating so that we can stop off in all these great places? No, I don't think that's it. I think what he's saying, actually what I think he's saying, I could be wrong, but what he's trying to say

21:23 Which is just as stupid by the way. Is that, okay you got New York and LA, they can fly there, that's fine with that. But you got your Clevelands and your St. Louis's and you got these other, you know, Akron, you got your places out in the middle there of nowhere that could be reunited by a high speed rail and they'd be booming because of it. In other words, he's thinking that people are gonna, as soon as high-speed rail shows up in Cleveland, they're gonna be taking that thing right to Indianapolis, you know, on a daily basis so they can work there. I mean, the whole thing is crazy. Well... Nobody does that. Well, it's about to get a little bit crazier, because this is how it's gonna be done. 100 miles an hour with real fast, you know, right away the whole thing that they have in other countries. That requires... Stop, stop, stop.

22:11 Back it up a little bit, because I heard 100 miles an hour, but how many hundred did he say? Well, he's... yeah, he actually... there's a new meme that crops up at like 128 or something. I'm not quite sure what it means. Hold on. ...passed, you know, right away the whole thing that they have in other countries. That requires eminent domain, all kinds of things. Well, did you hear it? What, eminent domain? Oh yeah, yeah. He's basically saying, hey we have to do this, we gotta get it all done, but it's gonna require eminent domain. Which means they're gonna be taking away people's land in order to... Again, yeah. Again, again. Let's listen to the last like minute of this. Cleveland, Detroit, they're dying. Chicago's always gonna be an interesting exception, but St. Louis, all those cities could be reunited as part of a country again that's united across the continent if we have rapid rail 300 miles an hour with real

22:56 300 miles an hour, eh? Bull... play the jingle! Oh, yeah. Bullshit! What a dude. You know, right away the whole thing that they have in other countries, that requires eminent domain, all kinds of things. But a dramatic president could do that, and I think if you don't do that, you're saying the future's only for 128 and silicon... Yeah, what's 128? is that what is one twenty eight is highway uh... over a one twenty eight massachusetts that that was the old silicon valley east coast version well okay only for one twenty eight and also can valley and the hot shot kids coming out of the good schools and if you say that you basically said goodbye to democratic political base and you're going to lose the next election i'd whatever anyway i just thought it was highly entertaining to listen to him uh... advocate eminent domain very nice chris very nice

CHAPTER 05 / 28 Discussion

High-Speed Rail Economics, Commuter Patterns, Global Comparisons

The hosts analyze the practical differences between rail usage in Japan or Europe versus the United States, noting that American geography and car culture make high-speed rail less viable. They argue that while bullet trains serve high-density commuter needs in Tokyo or tourist routes in France, the U.S. model relies on a robust roadway system. The push for rail is described as a "money grab" by think tanks and pressure groups.

tokyo· bullet trains· commute· infrastructure· air travel· urban planning

23:49 and uh... old guys need to shut up and post-industrial so three-mile an hour trains running through god knows what uh... from cleveland to detroit for what reason because there's so much business going on between these two now you have to remember that did the high-speed rail you know in china might be a useful because you have people that really sensually that does the the air transport system would be overburdened if they really just you know kicked it in the head to route rail leads to air travel i mean it's it's a progression it's not a really you know just going back to rail is a regression which is crazy and so i don't understand what that simplicity uh... is just ignored in this in this debate completely specially by guys like uh... chris matthews but you have the the situation in like japan with the bullet trains involved it was essentially a mechanism to get people from the suburbs

24:43 into town to work because there was you know it was to you know was living in Tokyo. They were living out in the middle of nowhere so you need a real high-speed train. So if we had a system so we don't we have a suburbs in our country we have a bigger country for one thing and so the sub so the suburbs grow around the cities and people drive in because we have a fairly good roadway system and and cars are cheaper and we don't don't tax the crap out of them and they're more practical in this country so that's what people use they don't use I mean, I'm assuming... that high-speed rail would be used for commuters from Sacramento working in San Francisco, which is not our style. We, we, we, Americans are not, you know, I mean there's a few people, yeah, that are commuters that live in Los Angeles or work in Los Angeles and live in the Bay Area and they're in the acting business or whatever, movie business and they go back and forth. And there are people that do that, but that's the minority. We do not work that way in this country that we need the high-speed rail for any of this stuff.

25:41 And even in Europe, I mean, I'm not even sure, you know, what the purpose of high, I don't think you need high-speed rail in many situations. It's like if you're a tourist, you go to Paris and you want to get to Bordeaux or Lyon real quick because you're traveling, you know, and you don't want, it's just, it is inconvenient to go out to Charles de Gaulle. So you take the high-speed rail down there and you're there in a few hours. It makes more sense. The push is definitely on and it's all over the place. We've got PR companies, we've got think tanks and what do you call them? You know all these these like the American pressure groups. Yeah, oh pressure group good one. American Public Transportation Association.

26:22 And it's a big money grab. Everyone's in there with their hand out. They're all gonna take money. It's all gonna be your money or my money. It's a scam. One of the things I noticed about that transportation survey which says 67% of Americans, I believe is the number, would try high speed. They're not taking it now. So yeah, oh yeah, of course. I'm on board. Hey, put me on the list. Yeah, sure. I'll raise my hand. No problem. It's a bogus survey. You put a high speed train between here and LA, I'm taking it. Yeah, it's a bogus survey and it gets passed off like it's, oh, let's do some rail because everyone wants it. And by the way, I have to say, since the Transportation Security Administration has implemented the new pat-down rules,

CHAPTER 06 / 28 Discussion

TSA Security Expansion, Michael Chertoff, Body Scanners

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is accused of expanding "security theater" from airports to other forms of transit, including potential rail checkpoints. The hosts discuss the financial interests of consultants like Michael Chertoff in the deployment of full-body scanners, which they label "perversion machines." They predict that the same invasive screening methods used in aviation will eventually be applied to all public transportation.

tsa· michael chertoff· backscatter· body scanners· privacy· security theater

27:06 Dude, I don't want to fly. I'm almost ready to take the train nut grab Yeah, but they're gonna do that on trains to you wait, you know We all have to get ready for it You all have to go through the body scanners and if you opt out opt out opt out you're not outer Then you get grabbed and by the way, they're they're now really going in there Tons of reports. They're really touching everything and It's gotten to the point where I don't want to fly. drop a bomb on one of those 300 mile an hour trains going at 300 miles an hour and especially when another train's nearby just about to come by it. You're gonna kill more people and you're gonna cause more damage and we will be taking our shoes and belts off getting onto the train. That's the bottom line. Exactly. It's gonna unite that but it's gonna shut down that line for a long time. You can blow up a plane, there's no line shut down. For weeks and weeks or months and months because the whole thing has been blown to smithereens.

28:06 With an airplane, you know, you just use another runway. But with these things, somebody's gonna do that and it's gonna be the same nut grabbing, the same naked body scanners and the child porn machine, let's call it. The X-rated machine is what I'm calling it. Which will sell more machines, which is all we're into here. This has got nothing to do with these machines being effective. They're just selling machines for Chertoff's company. He's not his company, but he's a consultant. He's a consultant for the company, yeah. And you know, the perversion machine, let's call it what it is. And yeah, so there's not gonna be any difference. So right now people are getting, you know, they're getting turned off to flying because of this bullcrap. But the fact is, it's just gonna be moved over to everything. Let me play a clip from the director of aviation of Lubbock, Texas. This is the council meeting.

CHAPTER 07 / 28 Discussion

James Loomis, Lubbock Airport, TSA Groping Protest

James Loomis, the Director of Aviation for Lubbock, Texas, addressed a city council meeting to protest the TSA's "enhanced screening" techniques. Loomis argued that TSA agents are not law enforcement officers and that their invasive searches violate the Fourth Amendment. He highlighted the lack of probable cause for searching citizens simply because they purchased an airline ticket and criticized the "double-speak" of calling body searches "pat-downs."

james loomis· lubbock· texas· fourth amendment· pat-down· airport security

28:54 The mayor was not available. But this guy stands up and he actually says exactly the way it is. And he says that there are more like him, more directors of aviation. Not exactly sure what that means within a town council concept. But at least he's speaking up and at least this type of information is getting out. And the first item on the, first the City Council will come to order. And the first item on is citizens' comments and Mr. James Loomis, would you come forward please? Here he is. My name is James Loomis, I live at 5808 8th Street here in Lubbock.

29:33 I'm a citizen. I'm also your director of aviation and I come in both capacities today because there's something happening in airports around the nation that I don't personally agree with and other people in my position around the nation don't agree with either. And airports are public-private partnership, local... Which, by the way, is a really good point about airports being local private-public partnerships. It's not like government property per se. You with me? Yeah, yeah, keep playing. Okay. Typically local entities own and operate airports. We also have the Transportation Security Administration and the FAA is our other public entities, primary public entities. Last week, the Transportation Security Administration

30:22 initiated enhanced screening techniques at airports around the nation. And by the way, we're still awaiting the manual which has not been published by the TSA, but we do have a number of clues as to what is in it. And this guy drops a couple of them and I have a couple more from some of our producers. If you go through the magnetometer and you set it off, you'll be secondarily screened. Now you get multiple chances to go through, but if you continue to set it off you will. If you're dressed a certain way, you'll be screened. And there are other things also that will cause you to be patted down. Now patted down is a term that

31:09 confuses me. Yeah, I really like this when he said this and a light bulb went off in my head. Yeah, it's like they're calling it a pat-down which is double speak. Right, it's also a police term. Yes, and it's not true. You're not getting patted down. You're getting groped. This is a search. It's a body search is what it is. It's one step before the cavity search. But it's nice double speak to say, just a pat down, just pat you, just pat you on the head, good little slave, little pat down there. Now this, we've all, if you caused things to happen in the past, you would get the wand. The wands are out.

31:46 this pat down. Which is a good point. Those wands were perfect. Yeah, now where'd they go? I haven't seen one for months. Yeah, he just said they're out. I mean the wand, they would actually pull it up around your, as the TSA calls it, crotchal area, which I love, idiots. And you know, and along your entire body. And you know, a wand can actually detect a lot of stuff. Particularly if you're looking for metal objects, which is what the magnometer is for, and if it has a problem, then they can detect- I mean, it used to happen, so like, oh, beep beep beep, oh sir, you- it seems like you might have a penny in your pocket. Yeah, no, wands are very, uh- Yeah, wands are very effective. So they're out, according to this guy, and he knows because he has the manual, obviously. He says they're out.

32:28 They're touching genitalia. Yay! And it's wrong. It's wrong. It's just absolutely wrong for these people to be doing this. First and foremost, they are not law enforcement officers. Thank you very much. I'm glad someone's saying it. They are not law enforcement officers. They have a badge. They have a real badge. Remember when they were handing out badges, John, and they were crying? These people? Yeah. They're like, oh, I'm so happy. Because they used to have like a sewn on patch, like what they really are, which is a step above Boy Scout. They're not even an Eagle Scout. You don't even have to have a high school diploma. You have to have a GED, an equivalency diploma to become a TSA employee, to touch someone else's balls.

33:13 It's crazy. They're not law enforcement officers. They are not law enforcement officers. And the Fourth Amendment, I studied it last night and I'm not a scholar, but there's no reason to be touched by anybody. There's no probable cause just because you bought an airline ticket. Another good one. And I believe he's right. Probable cause, which is the way it works in the United States of Gitmo Nation, You cannot be searched unless there is probable cause and just because you bought an airline ticket and you want to get on the plane doesn't mean that, oh, we have enough right to search you by some douchebag. Some douche with a GED. And I don't have much more than a high school diploma, but excuse me, there's no qualification here. This is happening nationwide and when I found out about it, I called both senators offices and Congressman Nagabower's office

34:14 It went into effect last Friday. And one of the Senators, the legislative aide said, if I don't know about it, the Senator doesn't know about it. What do you think about that? That's funny. The Senator doesn't know about it? You're kidding. He didn't know about this thing coming into effect. He didn't know about it. What are these guys doing? They don't read that they don't read anything they don't listen they don't go they don't watch TV. They don't read a newspaper They don't know crap. Is that what the guy saying? Yeah, essentially he didn't know about it because there's no no memo. Okay, just wrong I implore you to contact our highest elected officials and protest this action on the on behalf of the Transportation Security Administration wrong is never right and it galls me to

35:06 that we live in a nation now where we can't use enhanced interrogation techniques on people we know are trying to do harm to us. Yeah, so he makes a good point here. And by the way, the distortion is not me. That's the recording at the county meeting. He makes a good point. He says, you know, we can't use, although we do, but we can't by law use enhanced interrogation techniques, i.e. torture terrorists, or at least we people that who work for the CIA who are getting paid to act as a terrorist. So we can't do that, we have this huge discussion about it, but no one's talking about the fact that we're just groping citizens as if it's normal. It's okay. That's a good point there. Yet, we can presume that every citizen who flies and goes to a checkpoint at an airport is doing something they shouldn't do. Now here's the best part. Here's the amazing part at the end of the meeting. Here's what happens. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Loomis.

36:03 Can I ask him a question since he signed up? No. No. Oh, he didn't sign up. Okay. Can I ask him, that's another councilwoman, can I ask him a question? Uh, no. No, you can't. No, I'm sorry. Shut up. Well, you need to find out who that guy is. How about this for an idea? I think the guy's right on all these counts. How about filing a sex crime charge against the, get the badge number of your TSA guy and if he grabs your nuts, Well, I call the cops. Well, that's one way I was thinking still legal. Well, is it illegal or not? Do they have some special privilege that makes them that they can grope people? I mean if you go out and grope go go Right now just anybody listening to show go out and find a 14 year old out there and groper Yeah, see how far you get now. How can these guys do it? Yeah, you'll get on the list for sure That's for sure. Well, um

CHAPTER 08 / 28 Discussion

TSA Opt-Out Strategies, Pedophile Rumor Campaign

The hosts discuss strategies for passengers who choose to "opt out" of body scanners, including vocalizing the choice and asking specific questions of TSA agents. They propose a psychological warfare tactic of spreading rumors that pedophiles are seeking TSA employment to legally grope children. They also suggest that passengers should consider filing local sexual assault charges against agents who perform invasive physical searches.

opt-out· sexual assault· manual· rumors· psychological warfare· airport screening

37:02 There's a couple things that you can do. That's one, and I think that's a reasonable idea to do that. Another thing I was thinking, if we actually had the manual, which I will eventually get my hands on, you know, people who have it are a little worried about losing their job sending it to me, but, you know, obviously I'm going to keep them, I'm going to protect them to the best of my ability. I'm even bringing my mail server in-house so that, you know, no one can like subpoena my ISP or basically just pick up the phone and call Google and say, hey, get Curry's email. We want to find out who leaked that. There's a couple things in there and we should make a list of answers because they do ask you a set of specific questions. So first of all, they do the whole if you opt out.

37:43 Then the first thing that is clearly in the manual is to yell, opt out, opt out, opt out, opt out. Everyone says that across the board, right? Every report you read, they all start yelling, opt out. Yeah, like a bunch of ducks quacking. So there may be something we can suggest right there. Maybe you stand up, you turn to the rest of the row and say, that's right, ladies and gentlemen, I am an opt out. I was thinking, oh, just waving. Just like the queen. With your hand, like the little twisty motion there. Yeah, that's a good idea. Okay, we can do that. Now there's another thing, because I've been reading all these reports and they're all very similar, but they ask the question, are any parts of your body sore before they start feeling you up?

38:27 So, what would an appropriate answer be? I don't know. What do you think? Like, yeah, my nuts hurt. Could you please not squeeze them? Would you mind not touching my nuts? They hurt. They ask you to widen your stance. Which I saw kind of a snappy answer which was what you think I'm a US senator? Please give me a break. I thought that was a pretty funny answer. I think we need to come up with a list of great replies to these idiots who are doing this and they're just gonna have seen as a smartass and I'm gonna make it they're gonna slow down the process. Erica has an interesting idea. He says we need a story about how pedophiles are getting jobs with the TSA. Yeah, that's good. Oh, I like that one.

39:15 Excellent. Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate for these people who are just kind of doing their job because I don't know that they're pedophiles or they're, you know, I just know that they're low paying jobs and the people that do these jobs take them very seriously and not all these people are bad. In fact, I flew from Burbank to Oakland. They have no naked body scanners at Burbank. I'm not sure if they've implemented them at Oakland. Not yet. Not in Oakland yet? Good. So, you know, so that was cool. And I don't I don't mind the guys who stands there and pretends to like check my ID with like that blue light. Yeah, right. Yeah. Great job. That's really working. And we know it and we know it doesn't work because of that. It was that kid who flew. He put on a full a full head mask. Yeah.

40:08 And then it looked like a really old guy. Yeah, that was a good one. That's happened this last week. It was to Canada, right? Let me see. It was... Some Hong Kong to someplace Canada maybe. Not sure. Yeah, he was... I have the story right here. This by the way is going to be used as another reason to use body scanners of course. Because if you're wearing one of these full on head and shoulder masks, that probably would show up on the naked body scanner. So you watch, that's going to be used against us. So the guy flew in from Hong Kong to Canada and he filed for refugee status.

40:48 So we know that that checking doesn't really work, but it's okay. I'll play along. You know, that's all right. There's no problem with someone checking that. You know, it's fine. I think that's valid. But everything else is not. So good idea though. Shill. Excellent. And if not, we should just start the rumors. Hey, did you hear about John? All right, this is for no agenda shots. Okay, let's start it right here. So John, I've been reading all these interesting reports about pedophiles joining the TSA. to be able to feel up children. Did you hear about this? You know, it makes nothing but sense. Yeah, it seems to be. I mean, it's not in mainstream news yet, but I'm reading reports and people have these iPhone apps that track sex offenders and many of them, I mean, I don't know what kind of checks they're doing at the TSA, but it seems like a lot of them actually... We should do a survey. Well, you know, I have to wonder why they've gone in the direction of groping

41:47 illegally I might add. And I still believe, you know, if you get groped by somebody without a, you know, these are not police officers, I think you should file a complaint with the local authorities. I think it's very valid. I think we need to have, first of all, I need to have details available on every single TSA employee. We might have to sue them for it because you're right. I mean, it makes nothing but sense. If you're a pedophile, where's the easiest place to go get your rocks off every single day for free and quasi legally. All you gotta do is stand there and grow people. It's great. Yeah, it's true. It must be true. I'm reading about it. It's disgusting. It's good, man. Okay, so you can end the edit there and let's get that out. That's perfect. Now here's another thing, by the way. I don't know if we posted the UCSF memo about the machines. Yeah, we've had it in the show notes a couple of times. Put it up again. People need to read this thing. Yeah.

CHAPTER 09 / 28 Discussion

UCSF Radiation Warning, TSA Dosimeter Ban

Physicists at the University of California San Francisco (UCSF) issued a memo questioning the safety of X-ray backscatter technology, noting that the energy is concentrated on the skin. The hosts report that the TSA has banned its own employees from wearing dosimeters to measure radiation exposure, allegedly to prevent public alarm. This lack of transparency regarding radiation levels is presented as a significant health scandal for both workers and travelers.

ucsf· x-ray backscatter· radiation· dosimeter· skin cancer· health risks

42:42 Tell people about it. So you at UCSF took four physicists essentially. That's the University of Southern California. No, University of California San Francisco. Sorry. That's a medical facility and they wrote this very interesting note to the TSA, of course nobody said anything about it, questioning all the safety issues with this device. because it focuses all its energy on the skin. Not to mention the fact that by the way people every once in a while, you know, these things fall out of tune. Somebody hits the wrong button. The next thing you know, they're cooking you in there. You walk out of there with radiation poisoning. And the funny thing is I've seen this thing posted here and there and people keep talking about, Oh, it's millimeter wave technology. It's not x-rays. No, ladies and gentlemen, the millimeter wave technology has never been used at these airports except experimentally here and there because it's too expensive. This is,

43:31 x-ray backscatter this is a this is an x-ray machine they won't let the tsa and this is become a scandal by the way you do a lot of people don't like the idea of of of unions in uh... in government work but the big the tsa will not allow its employees to wear a dosimeter to see how much x-ray exposure they're having despite the fact they have an x-ray machine scanning the suitcases and then they have people walking through an x-ray machine that's being opened and closed and opened and closed who knows what's going on. We don't even know if the body scanner goes off when when someone walks through it I have a feeling it may be on full time. Well then you get an x-rays all over the place. The fact of the matter is they won't let the TSA employees wear this is all over the

44:18 They go on to any site that TSA guys talk on. Nobody is allowed to wear a dosimeter, which is a little badge that shows you how much exposure you have to radiation. They won't let them wear them because they feel that the public sees that they're going to freak and more people are going to opt out, opt out. And so that there's a, so they won't, so that people aren't even protected. People that work there aren't even protected and they have no clue if they're being irradiated or not. Read the UCSF letter. It talks about some of the issues. It's extremely important to read this and it's extremely important that you don't go through that machine. And we'll post that in the show notes at noagendashow.com. We'll post that again. Meanwhile, the news that you are hearing...

CHAPTER 10 / 28 Discussion

Florida Gun Scare, Media Manipulation, TSA Upgrades

A news report from Florida regarding a man arrested for carrying guns in his checked luggage is analyzed as a "slave upgrade" propaganda piece. The hosts point out that the guns were in checked baggage—which is legal if declared—yet the media used the incident to justify the installation of new full-body scanners. They argue that unrelated security lapses, such as a pilot losing his weapon, are conflated to scare the public into accepting more invasive procedures.

orlando international airport· felix davila· checked luggage· federal flight deck officer· media spin

45:01 is all set up to get you prepared, ready, willing and able to go through these procedures. This is in Florida where they are about to install the naked body scanners and listen to the lies that are twisted around to make you want them. They bust a man packing heat in his luggage. Officials arrested Felix Davila of Oviedo. They say the 49-year-old stashed two semi-automatic handguns and six magazines of ammo in his checked luggage. Okay, now, what did we just learn here? That they're x-raying your checked luggage. Yeah, well, but it's in his checked luggage. He's not taking it on board the cabin. He can't get it. He can't hijack the plane. It's in his checked luggage, which by the way in the United States, there's a legal way to transport weapons and ammunition. You know, you have to get a gun case. You have to check it with the airline. You know, the ammo has to be in a separate case. I mean, it's perfectly legal. He didn't follow the legal route, but that's beyond the point.

46:01 He had it in his checked luggage, not on board the plane, not in his hand luggage. But what are we going to do with this information? Let's scare the slaves. It's definitely a good sign that they actually did find them and that the situation was taken care of. With all the security, you know, that you go through every time you come to the airport, it always seems like you gotta go through this long line and you get all upset. But, you know, the idea that they actually caught him, that's great. Okay, so, slaves, here's the message to you. You're listening to your fellow slaves. This is great. Long line's not a problem, because it's great, because they caught the guy's guns in his checked luggage.

46:39 But your long lines are not for your check luggage, but it's great. Yeah, it's great because we're the slaves and we think it's great. Davila was headed to Puerto Rico. He told officers he needed them for protection. A separate gun investigation tonight at OIA. All new, an Air Trend federal flight deck officer lost his gun this week. Flight deck officers or pilots trained to carry guns as extra flight security. The Air Trend pilot discovered the bag containing his gun was missing on Tuesday. It has not been found. These new gun scares come just as Orlando International is in the middle of a sweeping security upgrade. Security is getting a lot more personal as of this week. Full body scanners are being installed right now. TSA agents will also be performing more pat-downs. There you go. So you see how they do that? Beautiful. Yeah, that's perfect. These guys, they took the oath. They're in. Well, they didn't. They're just reading the teleprompter, but

47:31 That's how it works. Yeah, that's how it works. And so it has nothing to do with with with groping of genitalia. You're you're bullsh. Has nothing to do with that at all. It's just a guy who packed some guns in his luggage, and then an air marshal who lost his gun. That's to confuse you. Like, what? What? What? What? How? What? Uh? Eh? Oh, by the way, we've got security. Oh, okay, good. Well, thank God. Upgraded. Upgrade. It's an upgrade. It's an upgrade. It's a slave upgrade, everybody. Anyway. So, uh, continue to opt out, and I appreciate all the emails we've been receiving from, uh,

48:09 Producers who listen to this program and contribute, they're all opting out. You're sending in your stories, that's great. And we just have to keep fighting it. There are a couple of groups, this EPIC. Group is now filing a lawsuit, but a lot of Rand Paul people are behind this. Yeah, there's also the I'm sorry, but on Paul Ron Paul young Americans for Liberty and there's a couple of different groups But I like our so we have two initiative three initiatives now and we all have to work on them one is file a lawsuit for sexual harassment the sexual no, but with the sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault sexual assault and

48:49 You can actually probably even file a sexual assault. That's the one. Two is I'd like to come up with a list of snappy answers because I'll be using that one. So let us know how that works for you so we can be guaranteed we don't have a show next week. And the third one was our third one. I don't know. Oh, oh, oh, no, it's the news that has reached us that pedophiles are now getting jobs at the TSA. It's rampant. It's crazy. It scares me. I mean, those guys could be pedophiles. Geez. I mean, have you heard the news? Well, you take a look at Chertoff's picture, it's floating around. That's not going to do personal. I mean, take a look at the guy. I know he does look kind of creepy, doesn't he? That's scary.

49:40 Yeah, anyway. Yeah, we should probably, uh... We should probably just file this under the Trains Good, Planes Bad segment. Yeah, hit the theme. You know, I haven't used it in so long, I don't know where it is. Last show. Yeah, I know we used it last show, but I can't find it. Okay, well... It's around here somewhere. I can emulate it. Here it is. All aboard, Trains Good, Planes Bad! Woo-hoo! Alright. Alright, good work. Yes. That's enough of that. It's a depressing topic. I mean the fact that this is going on and nobody says anything about it. That guy nails it and of course then he's shut down by what, the mayor of that stupid town? No, it's the acting mayor because the mayor couldn't make it and there's some other councilman who wants to ask a question and the guy says no. No, I'm sorry you can't ask any questions. Well, move that douchebag. We should find out who he is and publicly humiliate him. It's in the, shall I find out? It's in the show notes. Everyone can go take a look at it.

CHAPTER 11 / 28 Discussion

Salman Rushdie, Cat Stevens, Rally to Restore Sanity

Author Salman Rushdie expressed outrage over Yusuf Islam (formerly Cat Stevens) performing at Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity." The conflict stems from Islam's 1989 comments supporting the fatwa against Rushdie for his book, *The Satanic Verses*. The hosts revisit the history of Cat Stevens' conversion to Islam in the late 1970s and his subsequent departure from the music industry before his recent return.

salman rushdie· cat stevens· yusuf islam· jon stewart· blasphemy· fatwa

50:39 No, you let someone else have to check it out. Yeah, it's in there. We have we have all everything's in the show notes. All right, Johnny boy, take us down a different path. All right, let's talk about Obama going to actually let's do some some real news because I think we're you know, I've got a couple of real news clips and it'll take us a light and load a little bit here, I think. And that would be great. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I'm out of it. That would be great. That would be that would be really great if I could do. Fuck. You know where my clips went. No, I know where your clips went. I don't know where my clips went.

51:26 And now for real news. Oh, that clip. That clip. Yeah, I can't find the real news clip. It's crazy. We're out of control over here. Things are not going well. A couple of real news stories came to my attention. One is the one that apparently the major media, but the right winger, late night right winger guys picked up on, which was the dubious use of Cat Stevens On the Jon Stewart event, play this Real News clip Jon Stewart and Cat Stevens. He's had enough of Yusuf. I speak of author Salman Rushdie who was irked over the weekend to see Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, performing at the rally to restore insanity. You'd think Rushdie would get over Yusuf calling for his murder for blasphemy back in 1989. I refer of course to this. You don't think that this man deserves to die?

52:24 Salman Rushdie, yes. And do you have a duty to be his executioner? No, not necessarily, unless we were in an Islamic state and I was ordered, I'd say, by the authority to carry out such an act, perhaps. Yes. But Rushdie clearly hasn't gotten over it, and he expresses his pleasure about Yousef performing at the rally in an email to Standpoint magazine. Quote, I've always liked Stewart and Colbert. He has to say that, of course. But what on earth was Kat Yousef Stevens' Islam doing on that stage? If he's a good Muslim like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, then I'm the great pumpkin. Happy Halloween. Rushdie later added, I spoke to Jon Stewart about Yousef's Islam's appearance. He said he was sorry it upset me, but really it was plain that he was fine with it.

53:19 depressing. So I think we probably should take it back to the late 80s when there was quite a fracas, I remembered, about Cat Stevens converting to Islam and changing his name. And do you remember what all that was about, John? Yeah, I remember it happening, but what it was about is you ran into some guy I guess who talked him into becoming a Muslim and he you know and to give up on his singing career. It was really big. I mean Cat Stevens had huge hits. He had Morning is Broken which was I guess was his most well-known song. And everyone like loved the guy and then he converted to Islam. Yeah, they became and then it became like a late night talk show joke. And it was like, oh, yeah, she's like Cat Stevens. Yeah, that dudes. I don't really remember what the problem was, though. Well, he was he became like a.

54:12 Besides converting he became one of the, he was aggressive. You know he was trying to get other people to convert. He was, and he was like bought into this thing here. He would just as soon kill Rushdie because he, because of the plot block. But that wasn't until later though. That was much later when he came out with the kill Salmon Rushdie. I mean first he converted. I don't think that was the, that was the problem. I don't really remember. I think he converted around 82 didn't he? I can't remember but it was... Let's look it up on the Google. Yeah, let's check the Ministry of Truth. I'm sure they would know. Look at the wiki page. I'm sure there's some crap about him but there was something really weird at the time and I remember because I was in radio and everyone's like oh we can't... I think radio stations actually banned his song for some reason.

54:55 I recall this. I recall this. I can't remember what it was about. It was in December 77, he adopted his Muslim name Yusuf Islam the following year. In 1979, he auctioned off all his guitars for charity, left his music career and devoted himself to educational and philanthropic causes in the Muslim community. been given several awards for his work in promoting peace in the world, including the 2003 World Award and the 2004 Man for Peace Award and the 2007 Mediterranean Prize for Peace. Right. Well that's crazy! Let's ban these guys! Let's ban his records! He's not a part of the system! Shut up! He went back into the music business and he's singing again. Yeah. Alright. So, okay. Anyway. Oh, hey, by the way, John.

CHAPTER 12 / 28 Discussion

Lee Westwood, Tiger Woods, World Golf Rankings

Lee Westwood officially unseated Tiger Woods as the world's number one ranked golfer following a tournament in Shanghai. The hosts discuss Woods' disastrous 12-month period and his failure to secure a single PGA Tour victory during the season. They reflect on how personal scandals and performance declines have shifted the landscape of professional golf.

lee westwood· tiger woods· pga tour· world number one· shanghai· golf

55:40 And now, back to Real News. Yes, and I do complain about it. Yeah, and of course you do, everybody does, who's not a sports fan. And so, you know, so I've watched ESPN all the time. I keep up with sports in general, specifically the game, you know, the game sports, but I thought I was keeping up a little bit. I know that Tiger Woods has kind of fallen off the map and he's not number one anymore, but then I was listening to this report and do you know who the number one golfer in the world is? Magic Johnson.

56:24 Play this, I mean I didn't even know who this guy was, I've never heard of him. How did he become number one? I know Tiger Woods has slipped, I know he's like eight or nine or something. No, he's number two but he hasn't won anything for a year. Yeah, okay, well let's play the real news clip then. T96, that was the year Tiger Woods burst onto the scene his first season on the PGA Tour. And since then, Woods has never gone an entire season without at least one PGA Tour victory. until now, bringing what has been a disastrous season and a 12-month period overall for Woods to what is seemingly an appropriate end. He lost his five-plus year hold on the world number one ranking a week ago, so earlier today in Shanghai, Tiger Woods trying to salvage something in the final events on this year's PGA Tour schedule, leaving others to battle for number one. Here is an update. We begin with talk about Lee Westwood because he is the man who unseated Tiger Woods with that world number one ranking.

57:17 Okay, Lee Westwood Right. I'd never heard it. I mean, I don't know. How did I miss this? Maybe I don't pay attention I don't not a big fan of watching her is he a white guy? Yeah. Oh, that's why I don't know. That's what I must be I mean, I felt like what a whole year has gone by and I didn't even know who this guy was no one cares Well, a lot of people care, but it's beside the point. By the way, all this points out is that your personal life does affect your performance in everything. Of course it does. That's why these shows are so great, because I'm so happy. Is Mickey there in the room? No, she's actually gone. I think she's having coffee with Molly. Molly Wood. They'll be talking shit about me.

CHAPTER 13 / 28 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Earthquake Coincidences, New Zealand Visit

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's visit to New Zealand coincided with a series of earthquakes, leading to media commentary about her "seismic" travel history. While in Christchurch, she was greeted by an aftershock, following similar events during her visits to Japan, Pakistan, and Haiti. During the trip, Clinton officially announced she would not run for president in 2012, while the New Zealand Prime Minister mistakenly referred to her as "President Clinton."

hillary clinton· christchurch· new zealand· earthquake· papua new guinea· 2012 election

58:02 Probably. Yeah, you know how that goes. So anyway, that's my real news story. I just felt myself very, I was disturbed by this information. Our Secretary of State went down under. She's been traveling around. That was a joke, it was a softball. I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen, I didn't deliver the punchline but I thought it was in poor taste. I even waited a beat for just a second there and you still, and you're like, hey what? Oh no, I had it, I had it. I was ready to deliver it, but no. So she was in New Zealand and you know, I guess we haven't been too great with New Zealand and we've been kind of at odds over... Yeah, a bunch of communists.

58:45 a bunch of kiwi communists. Get my Asian kiwi communism. There's only 2 million people there. It's like, you know, like whatever. You know, and by the way, if only I could get all 2 million of them listening to this show, I'd be very happy. Very, very happy. So she goes down under. And as it were. But there's a couple of really funny news stories that come out. Because what happens just before she arrives, another aftershock. And these guys are getting like 6 and 7 on the news scale. On the whatever scale we're talking about. Yeah, I actually have information about that now, believe it or not. It's called the Modified Mercalli Intensity Scale. And I have the listing here, a 6

59:33 Which is equivalent to a 5 on the Richter scale. Aha! Yeah, I have an equivalency here. Ah, you gotta send me that. I didn't know that. I should have found one myself. I don't know why I didn't even look for it. So apparently a 6 on the... which by the way is not scientific. They even say it. It's not scientific. It's based upon the following criteria. This is bullcrap. I'm telling you, it's not scientific. It's based upon how you felt it. So, yeah, so a six is felt by everyone, it's difficult to stand, some heavy furniture moved, some plaster falls, chimneys may be swayed... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not kidding you. How is that the equivalent of a five? When the five hits you can stand? Well, not according to the... This is terrible. The educational site for budding seismologists. Anyway.

1:00:28 So they get hit with a six. They've had thousands of aftershocks and it's just crazy. And this by the way is a fault that none of the seismologists knew about. They'd never even heard, they'd never measured this. This is brand new. They're all freaking out because we have our Kiwi producers feeding us all this information. So AP in New Zealand says, comes out with the following report which is really funny. And I think no coincidence if you follow what really happens after this. So the story goes, what is it about Hillary Rodham Clinton and earthquakes? It seems the Secretary of State rarely takes an overseas trip that is not in some way affected by a trembler. Uh-huh.

1:01:12 She may not have felt the earth move under her feet, nice pun by the way, but as her plane landed Friday in Christchurch, the city was hit by an aftershock from a seven magnitude quake that struck into September. Two days earlier, as she wrapped up a visit to Papua New Guinea, a six magnitude quake rattled villages there. Those seismic events were at least the third and fourth to have hit countries while Clinton was visiting. On her first day, this is AP, amazing, this is a message. On her first trip abroad as America's top diplomat in February 2009, Clinton was shaken awake by a minor quake in Japan. Four months later, she felt a 5.0 quake in Honduras. Then in October 2009, tremors struck Pakistan while Clinton was there. So, oh wait.

1:02:00 And those were just the ones she's been present for. Days before Clinton was to visit Chile in March of this year, an 8.8 magnitude earthquake caused severe damage in the South American country, forcing her to cancel plans to spend the night in Santiago. But she still made a brief stop in Chile to get a look at relief efforts, much as she did in January after Haiti was devastated by a powerful quake. Of course, the reason Clinton was in Papua New Guinea and New Zealand this week and will travel to Australia on Saturday is the Haitian earthquake. She was in Hawaii en route to three countries when Haiti was struck on January 12th. So, I'm thinking the following. Knowing that she, while she was in New Zealand, she actually announced to the world that she is not running for president in 2012. I think she got the message. She's traveling around and they're like, hey, that bitch, you know, we got to tell her to cool it. Flip the switch. Oh.

1:02:59 Okay, everywhere she goes is an earthquake. I mean, uh, really. Coincidence? I think not! So, uh... Then, here's the funniest thing though. So, she's there with the Prime Minister. And here's what he says. He calls her President Clinton. Oh, that's funny. And she like puts her hand up to her forehead. Guy, thank you for your time here in New Zealand. Yeah. Uh-huh. Dude, you're getting spanked.

CHAPTER 14 / 28 Discussion

Obama India Trip, Arms Sales, Job Offshoring

President Obama's trip to India is framed as a massive sales mission for the U.S. defense industry, involving $10 billion in equipment. The hosts argue that the "job creation" narrative hides the reality of further offshoring and outsourcing to Indian firms like Tata Consultancy Services. They also discuss a proposal to link the social security systems of India and the U.S., allowing temporary visa workers to draw American benefits.

barack obama· mumbai· india· tata consultancy services· arms deals· outsourcing

1:03:35 President Clinton. So I think the two might be related. Yeah, something's going on. One of the things is this trip to India, it looks to me, and if you read a lot of... Have you read the India Times? Well, tell me what you read. That this is actually a sales job for the weapons industry. Yeah. He's selling $10 billion worth of crap to India and India is all pissed off because that we've sold $3 billion worth of crap to Pakistan but at discounted rate. Yeah, we give them a better deal. Yeah, we give them a better deal. This is the whole trip. I think they're trying to instigate a war between the two countries and get it over with. Well, you think. But what's amazing is it's like, oh, because the president. How's this going to go? They went over this to get fifty four thousand jobs. And meanwhile, his first thing I have actually have a clip of him saying this. If you take a look at the clip list.

1:04:35 Might want to just run it so we get a little background on this discussion intro to India. Let's listen Yeah, NBC's Lee Cowan is traveling with the president. He joins us now from Mumbai with more league evening Good evening Lester. Yeah, the president says the math on this is really pretty simple investing in one of the world's fastest growing economies Even if it is all the way on the other side of the world is as he put it a strategy for creating jobs back at home And he brought out the numbers to prove it Well, you know, but he's not lying. The only thing he's he's not saying is what those jobs will be those jobs will be building weapons Yeah in the US, but the other thing is why are we investing in India? I mean

1:05:16 Why are we investing in India at all? Well, no, wait a minute. I don't think we're investing in India. No, that's what it that's it. That's what the report says and apparently if you start reading... That's a lie. That's a lie. He's there to sell... No, I know he's there to sell stuff. He's also there to do a pretty... He's just not gonna just sell stuff without giving them something and he's gonna give him more jobs. If you read the job destruction newsletter, which comes out every so often, I'll get... Everyone should get on the mailing list for this. You can Google it. It's going to be, he's going to do a bunch of offshoring deals. The Indians, you know, in exchange for the sales pitch, they're going to, they want more outsourcing. They want more visas, H-1B and L-1s. And there's this new thing that just came up according to Sanchez who does this thing. India wants to link, this is a beauty.

1:05:58 Nobody's talking about it. India wants to link the social security systems of both countries together. Wow! So that Indians who worked in the US on a temporary visa can draw social security benefits if they move back to India. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Wow! Do you have that report? Yeah, so he's got it. There's a million links here. You can look them up. i'll send you the uh... the newsletter afforded news are you can take a look at all the all the links that uh... this guy puts together uh... one of the other things that can it cropped up is that clinton that keeps getting ignored by everybody clinton who set this thing up to begin with

1:06:39 is tight with TADA, especially with TADA outsourcing services. And I, and there are, I started documenting this and I started looking some of this stuff up and I found it goes back at least this far to a Norm Matloff who is at UC Davis who fights against all this bullcrap going on with the employment in this country where it's all being sent to people that work cheaper. in 2004 first pointed out that Clinton was doing special deals with the Indians and she's like a consultant or she's working for Tata. And he talks about what happened when she was on the Lou Dobbs show a few weeks ago in 2004. And let me just read from his memo. Many of you will recall what happened. Clinton was going on and on and saying how awful offshoring is and especially how awful Bush is for allowing it. But then Dobbs pointed out that Clinton herself was very closely allied with Tata

1:07:31 consultancy services, an Indian offshoring giant, she looked nervously startled and then agreed that TCS is indeed an offshoring giant. And she tried to justify herself by pointing out that Tata had created 10 jobs in Buffalo, New York, 10, mind you, and Tata themselves said in a statement that the 10 jobs would only be filled by Indians. So it seems to me if you look at the map, John, it seems to me that India of course borders on China. And there's got to be some oil scam here as well. There's got to be some pipelines and stuff that's got to run through it. And of course, we have in between India and what are those countries? Yeah, Pakistan, Afghanistan. In between Afghanistan and India lies Pakistan. So if you want to ship the oil through pipelines from Afghanistan to India, you have to, what do we have to do? Oh yeah, get rid of Pakistan.

CHAPTER 15 / 28 Discussion

India-Pakistan Geopolitics, Military Equipment Sales, Nobel Peace Prize

The U.S. government is criticized for selling advanced military hardware to both India and Pakistan, effectively fueling a regional arms race. The hosts list specific equipment being sold, including F-16 jets, Harpoon missiles, and various howitzers, noting the irony of a Nobel Peace Prize-winning president acting as an arms dealer. They suggest the geopolitical strategy involves destabilizing Pakistan to facilitate oil pipelines from Afghanistan to India.

pakistan· afghanistan· f-16· howitzers· harpoon missiles· arms race

1:08:32 That would work. Doesn't that seem like an obvious one? I mean, you can put it on tankers and go through the Arabian Sea, but if you just look at the map, logically, India, which is producing stuff, needs oil. They can get it from the Chinese. Or they can get it from Afghanistan, which is, uh, who is that? Oh yeah, that's us. Well, you know the Pakistan situation, I mean Pakistan went through a lot of trouble, I think it was in 47 when they became its own country. They went through a lot of trouble to separate themselves from India. Yeah, no kidding, a lot of trouble. And they've established a state

1:09:10 it's you know and then that they made a mistake in getting this this new can i think this is what is going to be there kill these hill cuz what's gonna happen there either gonna try to move somebody or something crazy is gonna happen with the with the uh... with the weapons and the country's gonna have to be taken apart or something i mean there's something You can see the pieces coming together but Pakistan is definitely, you know... They're doomed. They're doomed. I think they might be doomed. Yeah, they're doomed. But it makes so much sense. The president goes over, sells a little bit more weaponry to India so they can go kick Pakistan's ass. But at least they can have a good war.

1:09:48 I want to remind people... I think nukes are out of the question by the way. I don't think there's going to be... I think it's just going to be you know... I don't think they can allow an exchange to happen but something... a nuke could be stolen. I mean there's a million excuses. You know some false flag situation where one of them is stolen and they're going to be used and they caught in the bud. Let me just see what we sold to India. Let me see if it's any good. M777 Ultralight Howitzers. Are those any good? Are those useful? Pretty good. 99 F414 engines. Well, they're no good without the aircraft. 12 P81 Poseidon Long Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft. Oh, there you go. The engines will fit in that. 6 C130J Hercules Special Forces Transport. Oh, that's for the drugs.

1:10:37 Oh no, that would be the C-17s, the Globemasters. Those are better for drones. Yeah, no, the other one's for troops. Now, Pakistan, we gave M109 self-propelled howitzers. Now, I'm not a military guy, but I'd rather have an M777 than an M109. You think the 777 is more advanced. 18 new F-16s. Oh, they gave them some... Oh, that's pretty good, the F-16s. 8 P3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft, 6 C-130s. So, we gave them the same amount of C-130s, but then Pakistan also got 100 Harpoon anti-ship missiles.

1:11:19 What kind of a sick people are we? It's been going on for a while. But it's an arms job. The president's over there selling destructive crap and it's just like, yeah, we're gonna create some jobs over here. Yeah, in the weapons industry. That's all we do. You know we have you know there are professional arms dealers I think it's pathetic when the president has to become one of them. Well, maybe the president is always one of them. Couldn't Clinton do the deal? She was she was impossible for Clinton to sell this thing? He was too busy with hookers and blow. No, the other Clinton, Hillary. Well, that's what I meant. Oh. Oops. No, it's like no she couldn't she couldn't close the deal. No.

1:12:03 No way. No, she can't do it. This president's much better. He goes to the memorial, he promises to bring the kids, you know, I'll bring Malika and Ashika, I forget the first names. But Michelle, who danced around and ate funny food and did all she was supposed to do, she looked pretty. It's much more entertaining. You look at Clinton, you go like, I don't trust her. You know? Yeah, she does. You know, her ability to do sales seems limited by her personality. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Which is probably why she's not going to be president. Obama's a great president. He is a sales guy. He sold us all on hope, which is not a business plan, by the way. Right, there's nothing. It's all hot air and he sold us. Can you imagine? I went to a venture capitalist and said, I hope this will work.

1:12:49 Oh yeah, here's some money. No, that's not how it works. It's not a business plan. Hope. I'll change something in the world. Oh, here's 50 million dollars. Go ahead. Let me read this paragraph from the job destruction newsletter about this. Rao's meeting with the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, National Security Advisor, General Retired James Jones and other key officials of the Obama administration yesterday laid the foundation. This is the day before the Obama showed up so they did set the stage for the, but they couldn't. Oh yeah, sure. Anyway, this whole thing stinks. Stinks! Yeah, it does. It's, someone point out in the chat room, gold bug.

1:13:35 I love it. A Nobel Peace Prize winner selling arms to India and Pakistan. Exactly! That's a great catch. That's a good one. I forgot about the Nobel Peace Prize. Peace Prize. Let me see. Peace! Selling arms. And under the cover of it. I wonder who's at that business summit? I wonder if there's a lot of generals. There's like, I'd like to know, I don't know who, I haven't seen anybody mention who the CEOs are. They're supposed to have brought some CEOs and some military guys. Well, no, of course no one's mentioned that. Where are they mentioned? Where's their names? They're nowhere. Because you know it's like the CEO of Boeing, General Dynamics, Rand Corporation, that's who it's gonna be. It's crazy. We're in a crazy, crazy time. We're in a crazy time, ladies and gentlemen. It's crazy. Well, talking about crazy, we do have some people we want to thank. Yes, we do.

CHAPTER 16 / 28 Discussion

Norway Surveillance, Arctic Life, Climate Hysteria

A producer from the high Arctic (78 degrees North) reports on U.S. surveillance of citizens near the embassy in Oslo, Norway. The report also touches on local dissatisfaction with climate change "hysteria," noting that glaciers in the region are growing and fjords are freezing earlier than usual. The producer describes life in Norway as an "obedient slave" to U.S. interests while enjoying high-powered snowmobiling in the record early snow.

norway· oslo· surveillance· arctic· snowmobiles· glacier growth

1:18:17 James Barnett, Southampton, UK, 73-73, 73 from Golf 7, Golf India, Juliet. Obviously he is a ham. A ham radio. Hey, 73's 88's back at you good buddy. Woo, got your ears on. Mrs. Cranky Geeks, Chapsie, wants to put thanks for... he says 73-73 is well worth it. When Adam was on Twitlast, he mentioned that he hangs around with open carry guns, weirdo Apple employees. It would be most excellent to hear stories from that neck of the woods.

1:18:53 Yeah, these guys don't actually want me to talk about them for fear of losing their job. So, uh, no, I'm not doing too much of that. But these are the guys that actually do the hardware. for your iPhone and they are there in China all the time and but they do their open carry and I don't call them nuts they're just open carry. Yeah, I don't think it's anything. It's just legal. I mean why are you nuts for doing something legal? Is it nuts to opt out at the line? Yeah, of course. It is an opt-out nut. He's an opt-out nut. And those guys are cool and they're Miss Mickey. Mickey keeps threatening me. She says wait until you see me with a Glock. Says you're gonna get so horny.

1:19:33 Uh, sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn-sn- He's also donated to that as well using the same model. I really believe in the value for value concept you guys are using. Want to support that concept as well as the great shows. As you know, I live in the high Arctic, 78 degrees north. Nice. And he's like our Santa Claus. Let's go visit the guy and do some snowmobiling. Yes, we'll listen to this. He says, he's the guy who went to the North Pole, sent the picture to us.

1:20:14 In April with in the morning note at the North Pole. Right. His home country of Norway, which by the way John is known as Gitmo Nation brown cheese. I'm not sure why. Probably some cheese there that's horrible. It's brown. He's very, he says Gitmo Nation brown cheese is an obedient slave to the United States. This week we're all very surprised that the US has spied on and surveyed the citizens of Oslo around your embassy. This is news I didn't know. Wow, I didn't know that hasn't been reported. Also, send us some links to the stories. Also, we're very troubled by the actions of our troops in Afghanistan. The climate hysteria is overwhelming here. Our government is wasting taxpayer money left and right with quote no questions asked. That's an actual quote from our fearless leader.

1:21:01 Don't ask questions, I guess he said. In the meantime, the snow is gushing down at a record early time, our national glacier is growing, and fjords are freezing! Scamorama 2010. By the way, I just got my 1000cc, 125 horsepower snowmobile out of storage. Looking forward to some great action! So we should go up there and visit Snora and... Yeah, you can rent, you know, they have a good... they rent snowmobiles like they rent cars. Well, we can get free! We get Snora's... He's not gonna... he wants to drive too. Yeah, he'll let us... yeah, maybe... well, maybe he has some buddies. We'll see. Yeah.

CHAPTER 17 / 28 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony, Layaway Knights, Value-for-Value

The hosts conduct a formal knighthood ceremony for several producers who have reached the $1,000 donation threshold, including "layaway" knights who contributed monthly. New knights include Sir Tristan Lennon and a young producer named Peter, the godson of Baron von Pelsmacher. The segment reinforces the show's "value-for-value" model as the only sustainable way to maintain independent media.

knighthood· sir tristan lennon· sir todd simons· layaway· donations· roundtable

1:21:39 Edward McClumfa from Frimley, UK. Another weirdly enough, 66.66. Robert Sloan, San Mateo, California, 62.25. And he says we do such a great job. He also added a $5 a month subscription. We advise everybody to do that. David Trotsky. Romeoville, Illinois 50 double nickels on the dime and he's got a birthday call I will do in a second and I think it's an interesting name to have the name Trotsky. Yes, indeed. Maxwell Roberts, Crown Point, Indiana double nickels on the dime. He had an opt-out shouting match.

1:22:20 Need some karma for the upcoming return flight won't help. Also I'd like to call out Mark Hall as being a douchebag. Douchebag. Of course and the reason for this is because he doesn't believe in the greys and the new world order. Well that's uh that's up to you my friend. Craig Cutner, Norwalk, Connecticut. I've been to Norwalk. Uh, 5510, double nickels on a dime, long time listener, needs a de-douching, also a reflect, another birthday gift, so hopefully that's... You've been de-douched. Tristan Lennon, of course, gave his last $50, which now makes him a knight. Travis Wynn, also on the knighthood track, and Mike Westerfield. Finally, we got three more $50 donations from, um,

1:23:05 I think it's Nico Walraven? Nico Walraven. Oh he's Dutch. Yes. Okay. Shane Lindholm from North Aurora, Illinois and Zachary Gould in Corona, California. Everybody loves the show and wants Ron Paul to get elected to something or other. Anyway, that's our producers this week. Yeah, and then just a brief note here from Peter. Hey Adam and John, I had a $5 subscription but after plugging no agenda with a friend, Pimbo from Maastricht.

1:23:40 And learning that he was already listening without donating and admitting to be a douchebag, I decided to up my subscription to the lucky $30 a month. Perhaps this can get him dedouched. Well, we're a little bit bending the rules a little bit. You've been dedouched. I'm not convinced that remote dedouching is good. Well, the reason why I like these guys is because they have two websites, SqueezeSquanderSpin.com and Partij van de Slavernij Puntenel, which is an official Dutch political party. It translates to the party of slaves, which I think is a fine... Oh, I also got one more to mention, which came in as a check. Forgot about this and I want to apologize. James Spitzer.

1:24:27 Donated $101 and I think he's also a subscriber but that came in separate It's your birthday, birthday On Noah's Engine So we say happy birthday to Sir Todd Simons who celebrated yesterday Joss Dietrich says happy birthday to his brother Matt who turns 21 on the 10th David Trotsky congratulates his daughter Megan Trotsky her sweet 16 on 11-11 what a lucky day and happy birthday to Craig Kuttner It's your birthday, yeah!

1:25:02 God sorry. Hey, let's listen. What yeah, so we got our night sensor. Yeah, it's good grab hold on a second. I got the heavy blade Could we please have Peter step forward Peter who is the godson of Baron von Pels markers which would make him a Uh, well he'll be a knight, but I think he might need a special name. No, no. He'll be Sir's Good Enough for now. Sir's Good Enough? Alright, kneel before us thanks to Baron von Pelsmacher's Peter, you now are officially a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Step right up, son!

1:25:46 Welcome! That we needed some young blood, John. I'm happy. I'm very very happy. It's about time. Yeah, it's about happy. One more to go here as we grab our shafts once again. Nice shaft. Tristan Lennon, it's taking you a while, but you are amongst a couple of, a handful actually, of layaway knights who has dutifully supported the show with $50 a month. And hereby you have reached your goal Tristan Lennon here forward to be known as Sir Tristan Lennon Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Enjoy the hookers and blow. Great. Great to have everybody on board. Thank you so much for your support. It's the only way this show runs and I'd like to point out why our model is the one we've chosen.

CHAPTER 18 / 28 Discussion

NPR Underwriting, Monsanto Controversy, American Public Media

NPR's ombudsman issued a statement clarifying that while NPR does not take money from Monsanto, its partner American Public Media (APM) does. The hosts analyze APM's business model, noting that the non-profit earns nearly $100 million annually through corporate "underwriting," which they argue is indistinguishable from traditional advertising. They contrast this corporate-funded model with No Agenda's direct listener support, which allows for true objectivity.

npr· monsanto· american public media· underwriting· 501c3· advertising

1:26:41 with some a recent posting from our national treasure John. Oh boy. Yes, our national treasure as it's known in these United States of Gitmo Nation is National Public Radio also sometimes bunched in with PBS the public broadcasting system for television. And so these jabronis, you know, they take your money. They say, oh, we need some money, we need some money, but it's really a small piece of their money because they get it from big companies. But NPR posted a blog post, the ombudsman, the ombudsman for NPR posted the following, which I wanted to share. It's under the heading, NPR is not running Monsanto spots.

1:27:27 Now, John, you and I have both undoubtedly seen Monsanto sponsoring programming running on NPR. Well, I've seen a lot of it on PBS. Well, true. But let me read this piece to you, and it's so funny in its justification that it's beautiful. And then you'll understand why our model is really the one that works. Public radio is at heart a public service, says Ombudsman Alicia C. Shepard, but it's complicated. It's a complicated public service that doesn't operate like other media. You gotta see their new building they have out there. Oh, it's beautiful. Just yesterday a man raved about how he listened to NPR all day long. I corrected him nicely because I'm the ombudsman. Actually what you listen to all day long in Washington DC is WAMU which hosts NPR programming as well as BBC, American Public Media, Public Radio International and independently produced shows.

1:28:26 So, she goes on, blahdy blahdy blahdy blah. Why am I going? She says, well, because of this understandable misunderstanding. Wow, that's horrible English. Some listeners are firing off emails and phone calls, even a letter. Even a letter. Oh my gosh, someone wrote a letter. Condemning NPR for running Monsanto underwriting spots. Several blogs, blog posts are equally critical. They are incorrect! NPR is not taking any money from Monsanto, a large agribusiness concern that specializes in genetically engineered seeds designed to grow crops bigger and faster. Wow, that's a commercial right there. Yeah, no kidding. If, for example, a Washington DC listener tuned into WAMU on a recent morning, he or she might have heard two underwriting spots from Monsanto around 8am. Now, where's the confusion coming from, John? It comes from American public media.

1:29:23 which produces Marketplace, they are running corporate underwriting spots for Monsanto. You see, here's how the web works, the web of lies and intrigue. There's this other company, and I think the NPR ombudsman is probably in essence correct, But American Public Media, a non-profit organization, I might point out, who had revenues of $96 million last year, $96 million, they are the ones that take underwriting money from companies like Monsanto. But they are a public media company. They receive government funding for their public media.

1:30:05 But they also have underwriting. And if you go to their, and look at their building, you thought NPR had a great building? These guys actually own radio stations. Here, nearly 800 stations carry America Public Media's 20-plus national programs, including award-winning programs like A Prairie Home Companion, Marketplace, Performance Today and more, reaching 16 million listeners around the world. In addition, America Public Media operates 43 public radio stations and 32 translators in the Upper Midwest, California and Florida. So these guys are a non-profit organization

1:30:44 And they say 60% I've read their annual report, you can see it right online, americapublicmedia.publicradio.org 60% of their money comes from donations. Now, those donations, they say in their own report here, are primarily from companies. Companies donating money. And for that they get a 15 or 30 second spot, you can see the pitch right there on their website. And this is a company that the United States government is sponsoring. But if you want to do some underwriting, leverage our reputation. Magnify your reach.

1:31:26 Wow. That's just the sales, bitch. And they go through the same thing. Nearly 800 stations reaching 16 million listeners carry our programs each week. And they go and list them again. Leverage our reputation and magnify your reach to attract discerning high income consumers and multiply your underwriting opportunities. That is a commercial... Yeah. On air, American Public Media's national programs are proven to attract listeners in top markets. As the largest owner and operator of public radio stations and a top producer and distributor of public radio programming in the nation, American Public Media makes connecting to dedicated listeners simple.

1:32:15 By partnering with American public media advertisers, advertisers, advertisers, they said the word advertisers, advertisers, okay, can target their focused messages in clean 10 or 15 second spots or online to attractive audiences. I guess they look good with strong loyalty to nationally recognized programs such as Prairie Home Companion Marketplace Performance Today and the Splendid blah blah blah blah blah. It's a 501c3 too which makes it even more interesting. So they are they cannot be objective. They are attracting advertisers.

1:32:54 They cannot be objective. No, and by the way, I want to mention to people out there that our site to donate is Dvorak.org slash NA and these are the guys we have to compete with in terms of like dissemination of accurate information. And of course, if you put the two side by side, I think we'd beat them because I think we see through a lot of the bull crap, whereas they just essentially are producing product that's just, you know, by the ton just to get their $100 million in. Yeah. And you don't even want to know about this. And it's a non-profit, that's a beauty. I love that building. By the way, both John and I have to pay taxes on your donations. Yeah, these guys pay none. Yeah, we pay taxes. You send us a PayPal, PayPal takes a piece.

1:33:37 And then we have to pay income tax over that, which we do. Mimi and I coordinate. We coordinate so that we make sure we've listed everything. We're good little slaves. We can't hide it. We don't want to be audited. That would be the worst. And we pay taxes on it. And these guys have a beautiful building. They got nice cars. And they're beholden to Monsanto. That's right. That's right. So you tell me where you want to put your money. You tell me. I would really appreciate you help us pay some bills because that's all that it's used for and we will continue to deliver a good service to you. Please help us out, Dvorak.org. I want to mention something about this American... I'm at their website digging around. I cannot find the list of the stations they own.

CHAPTER 19 / 28 Discussion

Biodiversity Meme, Governor's Global Climate Summit, Harrison Ford

The "biodiversity" meme is identified as the successor to global warming in environmental propaganda. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is co-hosting a climate summit at UC Davis featuring Harrison Ford, which the hosts link to the marketing campaign for Ford's new movie, *Morning Glory*. They argue that celebrity involvement in environmental summits is often timed to coincide with film releases to maximize media exposure for both the cause and the actor.

biodiversity· arnold schwarzenegger· harrison ford· uc davis· morning glory· marketing

1:34:30 Really? Can you help me out there? I can't... it's not in the menus. You're kidding me. No, I can't find it. It might be in the annual report. It's a PDF file that I want to load. Right. But it's just like not on here. That's amazing. Well, it's kind of weird it seems to me if they own what, 45 stations or something like that? Uh, no more than that. Wait, here's the regional networks and initiatives. Maybe this has something to do with it. That's like odd. I just want to see what local stations. They probably own... They own a lot. Anyway, well you're I'll find it later. Yeah, you'll find it later. Hey biodiversity time We don't know this is getting to be ridiculous at the point where let me tell you got a lot of mail and people saying yes notice they did our country, you know, but usually from overseas says, you know, that's just like they've dropped the global warming and they've gone to biodiversity just a hundred percent which is all part of the same it's just the second it's the it's the

1:35:32 plan b which is nobody's picking up on except us and our listeners. I have a list of stations for you here. Yeah Eric sent it to me too. Okay okay you got it yeah yeah I'm done. All right go ahead go ahead. Anyway I was just saying that it's just Sorry, I got distracted. What was I saying? Because I got this biodiversity. Yeah, I know everybody says that has become it's it's it they're all everybody switching over worldwide to this meme boom boom boom boom boom. Yeah, it's like it's almost as though the the global warming thing was set up as a it was like the setup picture for the closer

1:36:12 in a baseball game. You got everyone all worked up and all the bad things that were said about you know this is bullcrap and these guys are liars and we have proof. That's all done. We're starting over. We've got a new guy coming in. Yeah, no we have a couple guys. So here's what I've dug up. Arnold Schwarzenegger who of course will now be Governor X, ex-Governor. By the way this list that I was sent is a list of NPR stations. This is not the list I'm looking for. Okay. Go ahead. Here we go. Hollywood. You know if you want to sell something to the people, you got to get Hollywood involved and we know how they're all slaves. We know. Just listen to Randy Quaid. Hollywood and political heavyweights are scheduled to attend a global summit at the University of California Davis this month. It is the Governor's Global Climate Summit 3. Funny, John. I don't see an invite for two or one around.

1:37:11 It is subtitled, Building the Green Economy. And it takes place November 15th and 16th at the UC Davis campus. And that's very important, I'll tell you why in a moment. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is co-hosting along with the governors of Michigan, Washington, Wisconsin, and Oregon. Notable participants, British Prime Minister David Cameron, Nobel Prize winner Rajendra Pachauri, A familiar name perhaps? Oh yeah, the dork that, the weird looking guy that looks like the devil who's the head of the IPCC. Yep, the dudes from the IPCC, your global warming shill. UC Davis Chancellor Linda Cattelli will welcome summit participants along with Schwarzenegger, former Secretary of State George Shultz, and who else is going to be there?

1:38:01 Harrison Ford. Now why is this important John? Why is Harrison Ford important? And one of our producers dug it up. So the 15th, now remember in Hollywood there's a saying when someone has a movie opening they say hey man my movies opening this weekend would you please go next weekend right because Because all the marketing money is always pushed into the opening weekend. You want to have that big 20 million dollar plus opening, but equally as important is the next weekend is when you really want all the human resources to go so you can stay at the top of the list which can prolong your marketing money.

1:38:41 and there's more investment that comes, a whole bunch of... Right, well and the other thing is that the media picks up on the... if it falls off drastically, it sends the message to the public that the movie sucks. Yeah, failure, failure. But if it falls off on the third week, by then nobody cares. So, November 10th... it's like... I didn't want that to actually play for some reason, they shut up. Shut up, Flash. There we go. Shut up! You can't even turn the fucking music off. Stop. There we go. In theaters November 10th, which is the first weekend, and of course, if you have a summit on the 15th and the 16th, you're perfectly timed for the second weekend. Harrison Ford stars in Morning Glory, a brand new movie. Coincidence? I think not! It's so transparent.

1:39:42 Diane Keaton, Harrison Ford, Rachel McAdams, Seize the Morning, Morning Glory in theaters November 10th. Brand new movie and Harrison Ford is out there in the public eye saving the world. How convenient. Yeah. It's actually ridiculous. That's how it works. The most ridiculous thing is that the media or nobody calls these people on this of course. I mean, you know. No, no, no. And it's yeah, everybody notices I'm luckily our producers are all onto this scam. Yeah. Thank you guys shows up out of the blue Harrison for we haven't heard from an all of a sudden he's an environmentalist or whatever. And then you know, what does it take to do two and two you do a search you find his movies coming out soon as the movie's done, he'll be gone. He looks like he has zero interest in anything. I like the morning glory. Context subcontext there.

CHAPTER 20 / 28 Discussion

Kaiser Permanente, Guinness World Record Flu Shots

Kaiser Permanente set a Guinness World Record for the most flu shots administered in a single day at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego. Internal memos describe "roving shot carts" and "shot buses" designed to vaccinate staff and seniors with maximum efficiency. The hosts report that some employees feel pressured or threatened to participate in the vaccination program, which is being marketed as a competitive achievement.

kaiser permanente· flu shots· guinness world records· qualcomm stadium· vaccination· healthcare

1:40:42 Yeah, it is funny. Yeah, it's kind of cute. Hey, I'm so proud even though we're still at a 99% douchebag ratio and we're not quite really making enough for the amount of work that goes into the show, but we're happy to continue doing this. We're building, obviously, 250 shows and building. I'm very proud of the people who are working at different places around Gitmo Nation and continue to send us internal emails. Again, the whole reason why I want to move my mail server off of the cloud. I want to protect people as much as I can. I received four emails from Kaiser Permanente about the same internal memo.

1:41:27 Kaiser Permanente is a big healthcare organization, John? Huge. Huge. Especially on the West Coast. Yeah. Maybe I should just read this to you. Yeah, read it. Dear KP colleagues, Kaiser Permanente is going into the Guinness World Record book. Official observers from Guinness were on site in person to verify that we had in fact set the new world record. What record did we set? Well, I'm glad you asked. We did the most flu shots ever at one site in one day! The old world record was 3,271 shots at one site in one day. We did 6,215 close to double!

1:42:15 San Diego set the record for us. We did the shots at Qualcomm Stadium. We had teams of doctors, nurses and support staff on site armed with our medical record and remote access. And we blew past the old Florida site one day record by noon. Guinness loved it! And they wrote us a very nice confirmation letter that celebrated our commitment to public and community health as well as our extreme effectiveness. We are in flu shot season again, my friends. Every region has active flu shot programs targeted at getting both our members and our staff our flu shots. Flu shots save lives. Every year in the US there are about 30,000 influenza-related deaths. Flu shots keep our members safe and alive. Safe and alive members is a good thing. And then it goes on. Hawaii, for example, has created a roving shot cart.

1:43:05 A roving shot cart to get vaccinations to our staff. I don't know who the marketing genius is behind all this, but I give him kudos. Colorado has set up a paperless flu clinic to facilitate shots at all care locations. Northern California set up a number of healthy workplace fairs and again is running drive-thru vaccination clinics in several of our parking lots. We are experimenting with shot buses. Oh my God. They go to senior centers and pick up busloads of seniors. We load those fuckers in the bus and we shoot them up with shit! That's not seen in the memo, but I made that up. Then we have our team of caregivers actually go on the bus and give the shots so the seniors never need to get off the bus. Yeah, I think we get the point. Yeah. So, and anyway, most of these emails that I received

1:44:01 They said, hey, you know, this is really great, but I don't want to participate in the staff vaccination program. And they've been threatened with all kinds of nasty stuff. So yeah, yeah, there you go. You know, it's like a repeat of last year. And now it's the Guinness. You watch if this hasn't been out there yet. It'll be it'll be a big. Oh, yeah. No, you want to get in that record book. You want to be in the record book. You want to be a part of the program. So let's talk about the election in Alaska. Oh, is there one going on? Well, it's ongoing because Lisa Murkowski who was ousted by this, I would say major major douchebag and I would say that because listening to him talk he's got like a

CHAPTER 21 / 28 Discussion

Alaska Senate Race, Lisa Murkowski, Joe Miller

The Alaska Senate race remains undecided as officials count write-in ballots for Lisa Murkowski, who ran against Tea Party-backed Republican Joe Miller. Miller's campaign has challenged the validity of misspelled ballots, while election officials focus on "voter intent." The hosts criticize Sarah Palin's involvement in the race and describe Miller as a "slimy" candidate whose supporters attempted to confuse voters by registering multiple write-in names.

alaska· lisa murkowski· joe miller· sarah palin· write-in candidate· voter intent

1:44:52 It's the mayor of San Francisco, Gavin Newsom, haircut. He's got that kind of haircut. But he's got one of those, I just sent you a link to his picture. Every time you see him, he's got the five o'clock shadow, which that special razor blade you can buy so you can have that douchebag shadow. You know what I mean? He's a lawyer. He ran as a conservative Tea Party candidate, heavily supported by Palin. And so Mukowski said screw that, I'm gonna run. She was kicked out of the, she's been a senator, she was a shoo-in to win. She decided to run a write-in thing, and so they put her, so she wins.

1:45:36 So this douchebag is now here, Dave, have a report you can listen to the whole thing here on the clip and it kind of bring you up to speed. Which one is it? Well, it's at least a douchebag clip. Let me see what it's called. I don't see it. Stinger, Real News, Real News, Murkowski. It says Nurkowski and I want to point out that I misspelled her name and this douchebag came out with his people and the Palin group and by the way these people should be ashamed of themselves. These so-called Tea Party people including Palin who is a sleazeball because of this guy as far as I'm concerned. This guy is slimy. Anyway, he said, well if they didn't spell her name right then they shouldn't get to vote, shouldn't count.

1:46:18 We're following another kind of mystery tonight, this one of a political nature. Who will win the United States Senate race in Alaska? With a pile of write-in votes being counted, determining the winner could get ugly and could last a very long time. NBC's Kristen Walker reports tonight from Anchorage. Lisa Murkowski and Joe Miller caught in a cliffhanger. Murkowski, the most visible write-in candidate, celebrated Tuesday when returns showed the write-in ballots topped Republican Joe Miller by 13,000 votes. If she wins, she would be the second write-in candidate in U.S. history to claim a Senate seat. We recognize that we are not yet complete with making history, but we are poised and it feels pretty good.

1:47:04 realistic do you think it is for you to win this race? Well you're missing the 31,000 absentee ballots that have not been counted yet and that's a significant component. In a campaign that's been full of controversies now another one which ride-in ballots should officials count? Is this like another hanging Chad thing? Yeah exactly and that by the way the guy who was talking like this, this is Joe Miller, you know we're missing the 31,000 absentee ballots and that's a considerable number and I think you know we'll come out of this okay. The Miller camp has argued that if Murkowski's name is misspelled, it should not be counted. Election officials have said they will be looking at voter intent. Political analysts wonder what exactly that will mean for the counting process. There will be attorneys on the shoulder, on both shoulders of whoever that person is that looks at that ballot.

1:47:55 The battle has been contentious from the beginning. When Miller beat Murkowski in the GOP primary this summer, she was stunned, but defied her own party and ran as a write-in. Miller was emboldened. Aligned with the Tea Party, he had the backing of the GOP and Sarah Palin. The race captured national headlines and saw heated debate on both sides, including an allegation that Miller used government computers for personal reasons in 2008. Do you regret not releasing more information earlier? Yeah, this is an event that occurred a couple of years ago. It's certainly a mistake. I learned from it. The rancor reached a fever pitch when dozens of self-avowed Miller supporters signed up as write-in candidates to confuse voters. Alaskans say they've seen enough bickering. We don't have chants to worry about, but we do have little circles to worry about and we have spelling to worry about.

1:48:48 just hope their next senator is named soon. Kristen Welker, NBC News, Anchorage, Alaska. who's been put in as a false representative of this crowd. And this is an example of her work. She has to be stopped. And by the way, every time I mention this, I get a bunch of interesting email, you're so anti Sarah Palin, she's the greatest, she's gonna be our next president and the rest of it. She is a creep for being involved in this. And I'm the number one proponent of Sarah Palin as a woman and as an American.

1:49:39 I've read her book and I don't roll my eyes when I mention her just for any reason. Because, oh she's so stupid, oh she doesn't read newspapers, whatever. But this, this is a reason to not like her. This is a real reason. Yeah, the people's will is being... essentially subverted by this clown and obviously they want this other woman back for whatever reason. She seemed a reasonably good senator, she was a Republican, she helped the numbers and meanwhile they oust her because of this creepy attorney who has to have that five o'clock shadow which is totally douchebag. The Don Johnson look is kind of out. It's totally douchebag.

CHAPTER 22 / 28 Discussion

Proposition 19 Defeat, California Marijuana Legalization

California voters defeated Proposition 19, which would have legalized marijuana, a result the hosts attribute to media indoctrination and "scare commercials." They express surprise that a liberal state would reject the measure while simultaneously electing Jerry Brown as governor. The discussion suggests that the public was swayed by subtle propaganda regarding the dangers of legalization.

proposition 19· marijuana· california· jerry brown· indoctrination· voting

1:50:19 And his old, I mean, and he's also got the greasy hair. He's got the Gavin Newsom look. I mean, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's no good. You know, Mickey and I were talking about the voting process the other day. And it was more about Prop 19 in California, which got defeated by like an amazing number, right? Yeah, it's ridiculous. It was crushed. And she says, so what is this? Why? How did this happen in California? I said, well, it's only one of two reasons it's possible. Either A, voter fraud, which is very possible. But I think unfortunately, in this case, It's B, which is indoctrination by the media. If you saw all the commercials about how evil marijuana is and the Halloween cookies laced with marijuana and people killing each other because of being on marijuana, I think it's indoctrination. Well, there was a lot of that. The guy was hospitalized over the cookies for some reason. A lot of this stuff and people just get it was all subtle, all subtle. You were even on Twitter and I heard Loic Lemur, what's his name? The web guy.

1:51:22 Yeah. And he's like, I think this is crazy. This is stupid. We should not. Why are you introducing the country that is about to have alcohol outlawed the country that gives 12 year olds wine with water? The whole thing is ridiculous that people would turn on this, of course it's going to come back because they're just going to keep hounding it. But the point is, is like wow, this is how dumb California has actually become. And it's the most liberal state, it's the first state that should legalize something like this. I mean, and then they vote in moonbeam Jerry Brown and vote no on the marijuana thing, it makes no sense. They're stupid. Yeah, and you know what, we may have to move out of the state.

CHAPTER 23 / 28 Discussion

Neo-Prohibitionism, Mythbusters, Alcohol Health Claims

The hosts identify a trend of "neo-prohibitionism" in media, citing a *Mythbusters* episode that compared tired driving to low-level alcohol consumption. They also debunk a study from Australia claiming that drinking four beers a day can lead to age-related macular degeneration (AMD). The study is criticized for using vague language like "might" and "could" while ignoring other factors like smoking.

neoprohibitionism· mythbusters· amd· macular degeneration· alcohol· health study

1:52:07 Well, because you're gonna get, you know, people are so done, just like watching the movie Idiocracy. I mean, I'm surprised people, you know, just aren't walking into each other. Maybe they are because they're on the phone all the time. Whatever the case, it's ridiculous. It's embarrassing. Let's talk about the demon drink for a second, John. Oh, yeah. I got a couple of interesting demon drinks. Now, there's a, you, the first person I ever heard use this term neoprohibitionism was you. And it seems like it's being propagated. First of all, Mythbusters is now on board. I have not seen the episode. But apparently the... and we know that... weren't they at... didn't they have Obama on the show? Or he's coming on the show? Or they were at the White House? So, you know, they were getting their orders. I don't know. Yeah, I think Obama's coming on the show. But they were at some event and it's like, oh, Mythbusters, good, great. We're all part of the program. On the last episode, apparently, which I have not seen yet,

1:53:02 They were pushing the TPSI agenda, according to producer Nicholas who did see it. Testing to see if driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.6, which is not illegal, at 0.8 is the legal limit. If that is worse than or equal to driving when you're sleepy. So it doesn't even matter... How can you even do that test? I don't know, I haven't seen it, I don't know how they did it, but it doesn't even matter what the outcome was. The fact that they're doing it means they're on board with the program. Yeah, I would agree. They're shills. They have to be. They're shills. Then we have the following report from Getmonation East. Four beers a day can make you blind!

1:53:48 What are they putting in the beer? What? In England? Yeah. Knocking back four beers a day doesn't just risk a serious beer gut, another reason not to drink, it could also be damaging your eyesight according to a study of Australian men. Research shows men in their 60s who I guess go blind anyway Who drink alcohol heavily are about six times more likely to develop the most debilitating form of age-related macular degeneration, better known as AMD. A new one to add to your list, John. You have ODD and AMD. Wow. AMD. It used to be a company that made bowling equipment. How about processors?

1:54:30 Wasn't AMD a- Oh yeah, I'm sorry, AMF is the bowling guys. AMD, what am I thinking? I'm like the computer guy. What a door. We found that higher levels of alcohol, more than four standard drinks a day was associated with a threefold increase in end stage AMD in men, said Dr. Chong. And you know when you're an Asian doctor, you have more legitimacy. Yeah. And it's always right. Wow. Yeah, you know, wait two weeks at fall off. That's the punchline. Four beers, ladies and gentlemen, you can go blind. I thought it was just from wanking. Where's that study? So four beers. What is the mechanism here that we're talking about? It doesn't make any sense. It's age-related macular degeneration. From beer? Any alcohol. But they only tested beer drinkers, I guess. Alcohol is a neurotoxin. Here's a quote.

1:55:21 So it is thought that high levels can actually cause retinal damage that might lead to the disease. Listen to that, thought, might. Thought and might. Thought and might. They use this in a story. But it gets better. It might be, might, that heavy drinkers were also more likely to smoke, which is a well-identified disease risk, says Dr. Chong. But regardless, heavy alcohol intake is harmful, so cutting back will always do you good. Be a good human resource. We need you working. Don't drink. What's Dr. Chong's first name? Um, hold on. I just closed the window. Dr. Chong. Elaine. Dr. Elaine Chong. Oh, another one of them. She's from the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear of the Spirit. When I say that, by the way, I'm referring to the woman who's the head of the UN's WHO. Yep. Another shill. Yep.

CHAPTER 24 / 28 Discussion

Lil Wayne Parole, Alcohol Ban, MADD Influence

Rapper Lil Wayne was released from jail on parole with a strict condition forbidding the consumption of any substance containing alcohol for 36 months. The hosts note that this is a standard "check item" on Arizona parole forms, which they attribute to the influence of Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD). They argue that such restrictions have become a revenue-generating industry involving mandatory classes and monitoring technology.

lil wayne· parole· alcohol· madd· scram bracelet· arizona

1:56:19 This was a study of almost 7,000 people over a period of time. Elaine Chong, she's all over the place. Well, no, she's an artist. It's a different one. Amazing, huh? Might and it could be. Might, could be, never know. That's right. Dr. Elaine C. Chong, no, this is a family practice. Chong is like, this is a name you can't use. It's like there's too many Chong's. Tommy Chong. Beer drinking in particular carried a six-fold increased risk. Quantities of wine and spares drunk were too low to evaluate their risk. How stupid. And then Free Wheezy Yo, Lil Wayne has been released. Lil Wayne, very important. Lil Wayne, you know Lil Wayne, John? Lil Wayne? Yeah, I know Lil Wayne. No, not Lil Wayne, it's Lil Wayne. Yeah, whatever. Lil Wayne. So, he's been released on probation and I have his probation documents here.

1:57:16 He is forbidden from drinking alcohol or anything that contains alcohol for three years. How does that work? How is it possible? And it's actually on the form. He can't take any cough syrup in the rest of his life or something? What's the deal? You can't drink Listerine. Well, you're not supposed to drink it, but you can't use Listerine, anything. No. But what's interesting is the form, which is from the Superior Court of the state of Arizona, it is actually a check item on the list. It's not like just written in there like you can't drink alcohol. It's actually a check item. The check item, I'm looking at it right here, number 17, not consume or drink any substance containing alcohol. It's on the checklist. I mean, if the guy, the reason he went in was for weapons possession. It was a weapons charge.

1:58:08 How does that relate to him, to his parole, not being allowed to drink or have, consume any, like, you can't have tiramisu. You can't consume any substance containing alcohol. Can't have Rum Baba. No Rum Baba for you! It's just crazy and it's a check item. Is this what it's come to? Has it always been this way, John? I didn't know that when you were let out of jail on parole that you couldn't drink. No, that's part of the system. These neo-prohibitionists have snuck in, led by the Mothers Against Drunk Driving crowd, which is of course the originators of that organization have all quit in disgust. Yes, they have. Because it's been taken over by essentially prohibitionists. Because 60% of all the money goes to their salaries. Right, and it's a scam.

1:58:57 But you know it's a scam with a good cause. Oh, it's about the children. Yeah. Well actually on this form as well, everywhere you read this legislation you have to take classes. supervisory classes and these are the ones that Mothers Against Drug Driving actually runs. This is a big source of their revenue is these classes and then they have the scram bracelets. You have to pay for that. It's all money. Yeah, it's all money making. It's all for making money. Yeah, it's all for making money. 36 months no drinking. I mean that's impossible. No, it's not 36 months no drinking. It's 36 months no alcohol under any circumstances under any system. You can't have anything. You can't gargle. A rumbaba. You can't have a rumbaba. You can't gargle. You can't do anything essentially. If I can't have a rumbaba, I'll stay in the slammer, damn it. You can't kiss a girl who's had a drink. That's right. That's consumption. Lil Wayne, he's fucked. Excuse me for saying it. Sorry, dude.

CHAPTER 25 / 28 Discussion

Yemen Toner Cartridge Plot, Al-Qaeda Branding

A plot involving explosive toner cartridges from Yemen is dismissed by the hosts as a potential "false flag" operation designed to justify increased security. They mock the media's "branding" of Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and question the lack of verifiable evidence or public statements from the group. The incident is linked back to the broader "planes bad, trains good" narrative.

yemen· al-qaeda· toner cartridges· interpol· false flag· branding

2:00:00 I can't find out anything on Ms. Chong. I have an end of show clip by the way that I want to share with everybody from a chemist. I hope it's not like the last one. You know I got some notes from people actually said they love that end of show clip, the last one. I'm sure there's people that like everything. There's a lot of people that like torture. Yes. Mm-hmm under the right condition a note from Dick Cheney saying this is like the best clip ever You guys are doing a good job Send us some money dick Cheney and Michael Chertoff. Send us some money you douchebags. No, this is Niels Herrett He's a chemist from Norway and he has some explosive news literally pun intended about

2:00:51 World Trade Center 7 and 2 and 1. Okay, that should be interesting. Now let me mention something which I think we need to follow. Look, so we didn't bring it up at all in this show, which is the sudden emergence of this one piece of information supposedly that says that You know that this was a plot from the Al-Qaeda. We're talking about those toner cartridges. Oh yes, of course. The evil printer cartridges from Yemen. Which of course relates to our earlier piece on planes bad, trains good. But I thought the whole thing was kind of interesting. Let's see if I have a clip. I don't know that I do. Yeah, laser bombs from Yemen. Play this. It's a short clip and let me just make a comment about it.

2:01:37 Here we go. There's a new group, Al-Qaeda in Yemen? No, we've already talked about Al-Qaeda in Yemen. No, no, they're supposed to be, they gotta get the names right because it's Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula. Hey, this is a branding issue, okay? We gotta, we gotta... Oh yeah, you're right, you're right. It's on the Arabian Peninsula. They changed it to Al-Qaeda in... It's on the Arabian Peninsula. You cannot confuse the public, your consumers, your customers. Yes, here's the notice to Al-Qaeda, okay? Al-Qaeda, listen up.

2:02:21 Keep stick to the brand the brand is al-qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula. It's a QAP Do not say al-qaeda from Yemen. That's that confuses your customer Al-qaeda in Yemen said it was behind the attack also tonight the global police agency Interpol has issued an alert to 188 countries with photos and technical details to help authorities identify similar suspicious devices There's a troubling mystery tonight Yeah. Okay, here's what I'm at. Who is this person? What, did somebody call in? Yeah, no. Did they send out a press release? Yes, it's the PR guy and he needs a spanking because he's, uh, he's changing his moniker. Yeah, he's messing up the brand. The whole thing just seems like, what? We confirmed it. Al Qaeda in Yemen says that they did it. Yeah. Who's the guy who called? And how do you know he's got anything to do with anything? What's his creds? And why won't he come on camera? Why won't he make a statement?

2:03:14 Yeah, I mean, bin Laden does it at the drop of a hat. Yeah. I don't know. I find the whole thing to be a false flag. No one questions that, John. That's the beauty of it. That's why I love what you and I do. We're media assassins. That's all we do here. We got no solutions. We got no money, we got no nothing. Well, we got some solutions. Hey, just- File sex harassment charges, sex, uh, what was it? Sex assault charges against the TSA when they grab your nuts. Yeah. That's the only solution we've come up with in 250 episodes, but it's a damn good one. Hey, it's the 250 episode! That's right. We have the 250, it's a 250 program, hence known forevermore as the 250 program. File sexual assault charges against the TSA officer who gropes your nuts. Yeah.

2:04:01 Or squeezes your breasts if you're a woman. And they do. They go all the way around, they go through your cleavage. It's illegal groping. It is. I read one report, it was kind of funny, because it is kind of interesting to see how Americans have trouble saying penis, testicles, vagina. You know, it's like, oh, I can't say these words. It's like privates, my area. Some guy's grabbing you in the nuts. Yeah. One woman said she was patted down and said they touched my vag. But apparently it was a guy. Oh really? Yeah, that was on the Alex Jones show. I don't know. Oh, well you don't know. Yeah, you don't know.

CHAPTER 26 / 28 Discussion

Aspartame Risks, Fruit Stripes Gum, Michelle Obama Disney Clip

A listener report highlights the health risks of aspartame, including severe vertigo, and recommends Fruit Stripes gum as a rare sugar-free option without the sweetener. The hosts also play a clip from the Disney Channel featuring Michelle Obama promoting "healthy living" to children. They criticize the clip as "magic" propaganda that ignores the removal of physical education programs in schools.

aspartame· fruit stripes gum· michelle obama· disney channel· health· vertigo

2:04:46 But I like that idea, John. I think it's, I still think it's good. And we still need to investigate the numerous reports that are coming in that pedophiles are signing up in droves to work at the TSA because it's a free groping. Yeah, why wouldn't they? It's crazy. It's just crazy. I think we need, that needs to be investigated. I think we need congressional hearings. Yeah, find some way of proving they're not all over the place. And then tip of the hat to Karina. One of our female producers out there, she says, Adam, you asked if there wasn't any gum that has not been made from aspartame. Guess what? I have found a brand that still makes gum that either has real sugar or completely sugar-free. It is...

2:05:36 Stripes. Stripes. Oh, that's an old classic. Yeah, it is a classic. Fruit Stripes gum. They make both versions, real sugar, sugar free. The only gum I've been able to find, I got ill from aspartame about three years ago. It was hell, severe vertigo for several months. I had to stop driving. I'm a 37 year old mother of three, husband of one. That's interesting. Husband of one. Some have more than one husband. Our listeners mind. I'm a workout lover so this really sucked. No aspartame is a healthy life. Have a great day. Enjoy the free tattoos. Yeah, they come with every pack of Fruit Stripes gum.

2:06:15 So go pick that up. If you can find it. If you can find it. I haven't seen fruit stripe gum for a while either. I'm sure that Beeman's still makes or a beech nut, or no, it's Beeman's, pepsin. Maybe. I think that's still sugar. We have a little bit of time left or are we out? No, I think we're over the top here with time. I think we've already gone too far. I do have a couple of clips if you want to get rid of them. I have the eat healthy with Michelle Obama clip that came off the Disney Channel as a kid. That's old. You've seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. Huh. You want me to play it? I'll play it. It's only 30 seconds. It's kinda cute. It's like a little... Yeah, it's kinda cute. Disney's magical health clip! Did you know that getting up and getting active for just 60 minutes a day is all it takes to help you get stronger, look better, and feel great? Or that fresh fruits and veggies aren't just healthier and crunchier, they can taste better too? Eating better and getting more active is easier than you think. Yeah!

2:07:06 We call that magic the magic of healthy living and there are tons of easy ways to get started in your house at a friend's house Even at the White House, so go to Disney.com slash healthy magic to share your ideas and get more info What a crock of crap I mean what happened to the put the PE programs they used to have in school you get your 60 minutes in by you know Actually exercising doing jumping jacks. They cancel all that crap. Yeah Here, go to the vending machine instead. Jumping jacks. Jumping jacks. Yeah, we used to do jumping jacks. I remember right after our national anthem and now kids let's do some jumping jacks. And what's this veggies meme again? I knew you'd hate that. Yeah, veggies. Eat your veggies. Veggies, veggies, veggies. I just want to mention for those who didn't see my tweet, there's a Boston.com, the big picture.

2:07:59 It has a beautiful and it's listed in the show notes, noagendershow.com. We really maintain these show notes. We do a lot of work on them. They have beautiful pictures of Haiti 10 months later. If you haven't seen that take a look and just think about all the celebrities that came together and all the hundreds of millions that we collected and all the billions that everyone promised and then tell me where that is when you see these pictures. Okay? Just and of course Boston.com doesn't say where's the money. No, they just show you the pictures. You have to do all the analysis for yourself. By the way, have you ever noticed that he laughs when he says that? Listen, listen, he goes, all we need... Listen to it, listen.

CHAPTER 27 / 28 Discussion

Haiti Relief Failures, Happy Hearts Fund, Petra Nemcova

Ten months after the Haiti earthquake, residents remain in tents despite hundreds of millions in donated relief funds. The hosts criticize the "Happy Hearts Fund," led by supermodel Petra Nemcova, noting that its board includes real estate developers and corporate lawyers. They suggest that the long-term goal in Haiti may be commercial redevelopment rather than humanitarian aid, as residents were recently told to "stay with friends" to avoid Hurricane Tomas.

haiti· bill clinton· petra nemcova· happy hearts fund· real estate· hurricane tomas

2:07:06 We call that magic the magic of healthy living and there are tons of easy ways to get started in your house at a friend's house Even at the White House, so go to Disney.com slash healthy magic to share your ideas and get more info What a crock of crap I mean what happened to the put the PE programs they used to have in school you get your 60 minutes in by you know Actually exercising doing jumping jacks. They cancel all that crap. Yeah Here, go to the vending machine instead. Jumping jacks. Jumping jacks. Yeah, we used to do jumping jacks. I remember right after our national anthem and now kids let's do some jumping jacks. And what's this veggies meme again? I knew you'd hate that. Yeah, veggies. Eat your veggies. Veggies, veggies, veggies. I just want to mention for those who didn't see my tweet, there's a Boston.com, the big picture.

2:07:59 It has a beautiful and it's listed in the show notes, noagendershow.com. We really maintain these show notes. We do a lot of work on them. They have beautiful pictures of Haiti 10 months later. If you haven't seen that take a look and just think about all the celebrities that came together and all the hundreds of millions that we collected and all the billions that everyone promised and then tell me where that is when you see these pictures. Okay? Just and of course Boston.com doesn't say where's the money. No, they just show you the pictures. You have to do all the analysis for yourself. By the way, have you ever noticed that he laughs when he says that? Listen, listen, he goes, all we need... Listen to it, listen.

2:08:45 Now right now, all we need from people- He's laughing! Yeah, he's laughing because he knows everyone's stupid. Let's listen to it again. Now right now, all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. I didn't notice that he's laughing. He's laughing! He's actually laughing. Listen to this, I'm gonna pitch in for some cash. Suckas! And still no annual report to Form 990 from the Cron Foundation. It's due the 15th of November. Yeah, well I'm keeping my eye on it. And so then two quick reports. Fox News came out with an amazing report. John, you and I had a little email exchange with the producer sent that to us. Of course we had Hurricane Tomás, which

2:09:37 which was on its way to Haiti, and those stupid Haitians, they ignored the warnings that a hurricane was nearing because what did our overlords tell them? Go stay with a friend or family. Get out of your tent. Yeah, a million people living in tents. They got no family to go to What a ludicrous thing. It was ludicrous. It's preposterous Heard the report mud up to their ankles and a steady rain falling on their tents residents of Haiti's earthquake camps ignored warnings to leave their makeshift homes as hurricane warning or what ignored warning Ignore the warning. They've nowhere to go. I got nowhere to go. Oh

2:10:14 Oh my god. That is, that was unbelievable and none of the, you know, the people report that just straight up without saying it's ridiculous that this even happened. That, you know, that this warning was issued. Yeah. Leave your tents. Leave your tents. Go stay with a friend or family. Go stay with a friend up on the Upper West Side for God's sake. Don't you think if they had friends or family to stay with, they'd be there? Instead of living in the mud, the cholera. Unbelievable. It just blew me away. And then listen to the shills that are in there. It's a beautiful find for one of our producers. So we have supermodel Petra Nemcova and she is rebuilding schools in Haiti.

2:11:00 So, uh, she's out there in Haiti, you know, holding up black children. Makes you look really good. Right? And she's like holding up her- Oh, look! And she has her- I love it how supermodels, they always have their hair up in a bun, right? No makeup. And I'm a supermodel and I'm here with little black children and I'm looking really good. No visible makeup. They usually wear a, uh, natural look. Well, yeah, of course. Obviously some makeup. But she is there on behalf of the Happy Hearts Fund, John. The Happy Hearts Fund. I have a feeling there's something sketchy about this or you wouldn't have brought it up. Well, yes, the Happy Hearts Fund. Let me just find the website so you can look at it. Happyheartsfund.org. And she is the spoke, the ambassador, the ambassador of the Happy Hearts Fund. On the board of directors, we have a couple of directors who are interesting from the Galtier Fund, which is the largest female owned commodities hedge fund in the world.

2:11:57 Um, which may seem legit, I'm okay with that one, but Colliers International? What do they do? Oh, they do real estate development. Right. Mm-hmm. Please, you're insulting my intelligence. You didn't have to get very far, did you? Real estate development. Well, along with DLA Piper, who of course has like 10,000 lawyers around the world that they represent. So they've got the traffic. What's the model's name again? I forgot. Yeah. What? What's her name? Petra Nemcova. Petra. Hey Petra while you're over there take the camera we got you a nice Nikon here. Now go looking for spots where maybe a good hotel could go up. Take a good look while you're there. Take a lot of pictures. Yeah, yeah. Hey and get those black people out of the way so we can see the ground. You can hold the black kid in your hand you know for the other cameras for the news camera but yeah we want some really good shots. Deplorable that's the word of the day.

2:12:59 Deplorable, I tell you. Unbelievable. Real estate developers. Real estate developers. Ambassador Petra, go there and take some pictures so we can see where the hotel will look good. How's the beach? How's the beach over there? I bet it's beautiful. I don't know if they can make it. It just needs a little work. Alright John, will you save those other clips? Yeah, I'm good to go. Because I saw one that was Kucinich making sense. I like that one. We'll have to play that one on Thursday. Yeah, Kucinich making sense. You know, over time I just want to say this. Kucinich makes more sense, even though he's a crackpot, maybe he's not. He makes more sense when he just starts talking common sense about stuff than anybody. Yeah, he does. Which is kind of embarrassing it seems to me. Yeah.

CHAPTER 28 / 28 Discussion

Niels Harrit, Nanothermite, World Trade Center Dust

Dr. Niels Harrit, an associate professor of chemistry at the University of Copenhagen, presents his findings regarding "unreacted thermitic material" found in the dust of the World Trade Center. Harrit explains that the red-grey chips discovered are a form of "nanothermite," a sophisticated military-grade incendiary produced through nanotechnology. He argues that the presence of this material is proof of a deliberate controlled demolition and calls for a new, independent investigation into the events of September 11th.

niels harrit· nanothermite· world trade center· 9/11· chemistry· controlled demolition

2:13:48 So I've got the hot wife I'll be very happy to be back at the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center on Thursday for the show Yeah, that will have decent equipment working again. Well you've already run out your whole monthly allotment of cussing Yeah, not all of it on the air luckily. Yeah, that's a good thing Coming to you from the makeshift crackpot command center in San Francisco a gitmo nation west in The People's Republic of the Bay Area. I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the rain is still falling on and off, but it's, you know, it's cheaper than watering the plants. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday for early morning service. Remember, Dvorak.org slash NA. We need your help. We'll talk to you then here on NO Agenda. My name is Nils Harit. I have a master and a PhD in chemistry and I'm associate professor at the University of Copenhagen.

2:14:59 and I have been so for almost 40 years, and I'm 65. I have published close to 60 peer-reviewed papers in the best journals, and currently I'm involved with research X-ray time resolved spectroscopy on time scales of one millionth of one millionth of a second. This is very fast. About three and a half year ago, I saw accidentally building 7 going down on a DVD which was a recording from Stephenie Jones lecture he gave on Brigham Young University and that caught my attention immediately because for one thing I have never heard about this building before and second I couldn't understand what was going on because apparently it collapsed with no reason at all. So that as a scientist I'm

2:16:02 trained to trying to understand what's going on around me and I couldn't understand and from that day I have not had any free time because later on I started looking into it. I started working on the local scene in Copenhagen, Denmark and I got involved with a team of scientists which also counts Stephen E. Jones, Kevin Ryan, etc. a total of nine people, and in a kind of research investigating the dust from the collapse on the south of Manhattan. And in the dust we found what we characterize as unreacted thermitic material.

2:16:58 in the shape of some very tiny red-grey chips, which have different properties. Most importantly is they're still reacting, some of them, and in the reaction they produce molten iron, which is the prime indication of a thermitic reaction. And such a reaction can be used to destroy steel structures. Now, thermite is in the old-fashioned thermite is a mixture of pulverized aluminum and pulverized rust. And if you can get this mixture to react, which is not so easy, it produces tremendous heat. And this is what you call an incendiary. An incendiary is something which can be used to destroy something by the means of heat.

2:18:01 while an explosive is something which reacts, acts with pressure. It knocks things apart. Now the old-fashioned incendiary is not an explosive. But it is still used for military purposes for melting iron structures. What we have found is a modern version of thermite, which we call nanothermite, which is produced in a different way. It is not just two powder is being mixed, the material is actually built from the atom scale up. We call it the bottom-up procedure, which is what you do in nanotechnology. This has two consequences for the nanothermite, which

2:18:51 separates, distinguishes it from the classical thermite. First, the ingredients are much smaller, which means they are reacting faster and they are more easily ignited. Two, due to the process of producing nanothermite, you have the option of putting in other stuff. other chemicals which converts the thermite reaction into an explosive reaction. We do not know which role is played by the red-grey chips that we found in the dust, but we know

2:19:30 And this was already totally clear before we started investigating the dust, that both explosives and incendiaries were used in the controlled demolition of World Trade Center. This is quite obvious because of other observations, the molten iron and other findings in the dust, that both explosives and incendiaries were used. Now, where the red-grey chips fit into this picture, we do not know. There's been much speculation about this, in particular because the nanothermite is a very versatile material which can be used in different configurations and people have even speculated maybe it was sprayed on the structure and stuff like that. This is what I call hypothetical blast scenarios which we should not

2:20:25 maybe go into here. One point I wish to make though is that a recent work by David Chandler, where he is looking very closely at the collapse of the South Tower World Trade Center, reveals that the fragments which are being, which is coming out of the tower, obviously being kicked out by an explosive action, are rocket fragments. For once, they have a trail of white, a white trail after them, which could be aluminum oxide, which is a product of the thermite reaction. Second, they quite obviously have rocket properties, which in my opinion means that when we are, that the discussion between incendiaries and explosives is obsolete.

2:21:26 in this situation. What we are dealing with, I think, in World Trade Center is modern military material which is unknown to the general public. And the red-grey chips, the unreacted nanothermite that we have found in the dust is just an indication that there is something wrong. It shouldn't be there. But my feeling, presently, we are recording this in 2010, is that we haven't heard the whole story yet. The findings of the nanothermite in the dust is an unambitious proof that something was going on on September 11th, which was unusual.

2:22:19 and it is a finding which cannot be accounted for by any other explanation, any other process going on than this was deliberately put in the towers for the purpose of bringing them down. As a consequence, we are demanding, and I as a person, as a scientist, that a new investigation, when it comes and it will come, should also in looking for remaining explosives and thermitic material in the dust by the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Thank you.