Episode 225 · Thursday, 12 August 2010

Checkpoint Nation

A wave of suspicious deaths and corporate-backed political maneuvers signals a tightening grip by the global administrative state as federal compensation reaches record-breaking heights.

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About this episode

Energy analyst Matthew Simmons was found dead in a Maine hot tub shortly after predicting the bankruptcy of BP and criticizing the response to the Deepwater Horizon spill. The sudden death of the prominent industry critic, initially attributed to a heart attack before being reclassified as drowning, coincides with the suspicious plane crash of Senator Ted Stevens in Alaska. These events highlight a volatile intersection of corporate interests and political power as the federal government faces scrutiny over its expanding influence.

A USA Today investigation reveals that federal civilian compensation has surged to an average of $123,000, nearly doubling the private sector average of $61,000. Meanwhile, Wyclef Jean has launched a presidential bid in Haiti backed by corporate interests and private jets linked to Goldman Sachs and Bill Clinton. In the United Kingdom, the Anti-Terrorist Hotline has pulled controversial advertisements that encouraged citizens to report neighbors for using cash or keeping curtains closed. Domestically, the Checkpoint Strikeforce initiative is under fire for using unconstitutional sobriety stops to generate revenue, while the FBI continues to enforce gag orders on National Security Letter recipients like Nicholas Merrill.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate a massive listener surge following a high-profile appearance on the Adam Carolla Show. The hosts mock the Nokia Ovi Store for banning their mobile app over alleged offensive language while praising the resilience of the No Agenda challenge coin community. Comedian Bill Hicks provides the final word on maintaining artistic integrity by refusing to become a corporate shill for mainstream advertisers.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Adam Carolla Show Appearance and Media Transitions

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 225 of the No Agenda podcast, noting a surge in new listeners following Curry's appearance on the Adam Carolla Show. They discuss Carolla's success on iTunes despite being fired from traditional radio. The hosts contrast the freedom of podcasting with the constraints of "old media" structures.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· adam carolla· itunes· old media

00:00 Then if that's the case, why can't I go sign up some slaves? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, August 12th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 225. This is no agenda. Confident the hot tub is not a good place to be and coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning I am the patently unemployable former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry and And from North Silicon Valley with a much simpler introduction. I'm John C. Dvorak In the morning to you John

00:41 In the morning to you and in the morning to everyone in the field and all ships at sea. And in the morning to all of our human resources charged up and ready to go at noagendachat.com and all the new human resources listening to the program for the first time who found out about us on the Adam Carolla show. I did some PR work, you see. Yeah, I suspect the numbers will be skyrocket. He's got a big show man. Don't don't knock it He's like always number two or number one on iTunes. He's got he's got a pretty big show. I never heard it

01:22 It's it's uh, it's it's okay. I know he's getting a lot of grief for doing it What do you mean? He's not getting grief. I think his fans love him for it. No his fans I'm talking about the other people that still are stuck in old media. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, he got fired You know, what's he gonna do? Yeah, they kicked him off. They changed the whole station under his ass and so what's he gonna do? Yeah, I know what he could do. He could do what smart money's doing and that is Go to work for the Fed. Yeah That's right become a teacher do something like do any of these things here Let me just read just from this this came out. I've got to send you the link It's got to go on the show notes is from USA Today they took a look at some of the numbers and to pay rates and average

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Federal Employee Compensation vs Private Sector Pay

A USA Today report reveals that the average compensation for a federal civilian worker reached $123,000 in 2009, significantly outstripping the $61,000 average in the private sector. The discussion highlights how the federal pay advantage has doubled since 2000. Criticism is directed at the SEIU and other government unions for their ability to pressure Congress for funding without the profit constraints faced by private companies.

usa today· federal workers· seiu· private sector· compensation

02:05 The average pay rate compensation in 2009 for a federal civilian worker, not a military, a federal civilian worker, the average is $123,000. Are you kidding me? That's a lot of dough, man. That's the average. The average state and local government nationally employee is 69,913 and the average private enterprise, the people, the normal people. The slaves. The slaves. The slaves, 61,000. Wasn't there some big fracas in California that

02:45 Like the state controller was making $700,000 a year or something. Oh, there's a bunch of people making millions. The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,000 a year in 2000 to $61,998. God, who's counting? That's the advantage. In other words, they were making $30,000 more than private, but now it's $61,000 more than private. Unbelievable. And here's the kind of the interesting thing about this, and people should be irked about this. is that you know with the SEIU and all these unions that can pressure the federal government to give them more money, those unions are very effective in government. They should be outlawed. They're effective because

03:28 When you're a unionized company that's in the private sector and you ask for more money, that affects the bottom line. All the bookkeeping has to change. Everything has to be accounted for. With the government, there's no... you don't lose your profits. You don't get screwed by giving the employees more money. You just go to Congress and say, we need more money. Prince them up. Hey, Bernanke. And they steal it from the private sector. Yeah. and give it to them. It's value for value. So now it's $123,000 if you're working for the fed that's your average pay in the federal government is $123,000. Yeah I picked a really good week to quit my day job John.

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Show Notes Innovation and Ministry of Truth

The hosts discuss technical updates to the show's documentation, including the use of OPML and collapsible HTML categories to manage over 300 links. They frame current events under the thematic headings of "Ministry of Truth" and "Gitmo Nation." A brief mention is made of the difficulty of re-entering government work due to ageism.

opml· html· xml· ministry of truth· gitmo nation

04:06 I have over 300 links in the show notes. I got up at five again this morning. Oh, geez, you're gonna kill our listeners. Well, actually I have a... I'm gonna do something different with the show notes. I published them in OPML, which is the outline processor markup language, an XML derivative. But also just in HTML in the show notes, but I think I'm in the show notes I'm going to do some kind of like some kind of widget thingy I can use so that all of the categories are Collapsed so that it doesn't take up the whole page. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah I don't know what it does for indexing or anything, but frankly I don't care just as long as

04:48 This is the link. Thank you. Let me put that it makes noise on the show. Yeah, this is the irritation link What do we put that under let's put that under finances? Yeah, nice. Mm-hmm. So yeah, I know but it's Man, I'm I'm happy. I've got the time now to do this. It's just it's outrageous that I wouldn't know where to start the show There is so much happening particularly under the headings Ministry of Truth and Gitmo nation. It's just outrageous Well, I think we may should thank our producers before we begin. We have producers good And it's you know a little although I'm still annoyed by this I mean actually you know I were used to work for the government should just stayed there Yeah, he's this aggravation. You can go back Can't you can't you moonlight on this show even though you're working for the government? I can moonlight, but I don't think the government you know they're they have they're a bunch of ageists They wouldn't hire me

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Coin Challenge and Executive Producers

The No Agenda Coin Challenge, led by Sir Paul Couture, has successfully blanketed 46 U.S. states and 23 countries, raising over $12,000 for the show. New Knights in the Order of the Mint are announced, including Victor Osterdahl, Stephen Lowe, and Glenn Mercer. The hosts also acknowledge long-term supporters like Stephen Pelsmacher and the 10% donation pledge from Zydeco's restaurant in Indiana.

paul couture· order of the mint· knighthood· challenge coins· zydeco's

05:44 There's nobody to answer to. You know, they can be ageist, they don't care. What are they going to do if somebody calls them on it? Ah, too bad. Pound salt. Yeah, no, you can't pound salt. That's illegal too. Stop it. Can't have salt to pound. So, Paul Couture is responsible for three more Order of the Mint nights. Yeah, this is the night. Which will have to also make executive producers. Okay. And those are $1,000 each. Victor Osterdahl from Haneg, Sweden. Stephen Lowe from Birmingham, UK.

06:25 and Glenn Mercer from New Orleans, Louisiana. Now this is from the No Agenda Coin Challenge which you can find at noagendafans.com. I believe now there is a coin sold, and these are $33.33, there's now a coin sold in 46 of the continental United States, so we've almost blanketed the entire country. And the way it works is every week Until and almost all 500 of the run are sold. I think it's like 20 or 30 left every week $1,000 which is I think what is it like not 60 or 70 percent of the of the profits or the proceeds I mean the guys making no money. So he's sending it all to us, which is amazing one of the coin purchasers is pulled at random receives a exclusive black

07:20 What is it? A black no agenda challenge coin and is made a knight in the order of the mint and of course also automatically an executive producer which is phenomenal. Hey, where are all the other initiatives like Sir Paul Couture? And Paul Couture by the way is also an executive producer. Of course, because yeah. And so the total will be like over $12,000 when he's done. Yeah, something like that. And he's also blanketed 23 countries. Wow. He wants us to know that. So we also have a regular executive producer Charles Jordan, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, who gave us $333.33, who's gonna build it up to a knighthood. Deborah Hutchinson, Mooresville, Indiana, $274. Wait, isn't she from Zydecos?

08:08 I think she is. Yeah, right. She's from Zydeco's. I think she sent us a note. Unfortunately it wasn't in the safe. No, I know what it is. Zydeco's still giving away 10% of their take. Zydeco's restaurant there in Indianapolis. 10% of the take goes to the show. And she's building up her knighthood as well. uh... her game or anything that you did regularly and also by the way steven pals markers and i don't know why is not on this database but he came in at the last minute and it's possibly we had a crossover issue because it we keep me the pals markers in for uh... five hundred plus dollars holy crap this is great well appreciate and uh... associates house marker courses are longest term supporter uh... he's a patron we have to give him a special title

08:58 and greg birch i don't need to have it dollars for me it for some michael birch will be uh... name the uh... executive producer uh... it's heading off to school needs to build our portfolio and designed uh... black knight uh... was pinned so weak that's a pin that we have to uh... we can bring incentive to uh... our nights they're gonna be sent from port angeles washington okay uh... Wouter Selgi, well this one you have to pronounce for me. Wait a minute, do I have him on the spreadsheet? Wouter? Yeah. Try Wouter. No, he's not an executive producer, he is a... Associate. ...so I won't have to worry about pronouncing his name. Is he not an associate? He says, call me Walter, that's one thing I have to say. But is he not an associate?

09:46 No, he's only no not yet. Okay, so no associates. We only have executive producers. Is that what you're saying here? No, no Deborah and Greg are both and Greg's son Michael are both associates. Okay, but Stephen is full-blown Pell smockers. Yeah, okay See once again, all you have to do is show up and bumble through the spreadsheet. Good job. You're welcome Yes, is that it? Yeah, okay a couple of PR mentions then before we move on as I already said welcome to all the new listeners to the show who I know that you're out there because They've been emailing me since my appearance on the Adam Carolla show yesterday Also this week we were featured in a thank you to the new podcast team at iTunes They put us on the home page, which is really nice with our

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Nokia Ovi Store Rejection and Content Policing

Nokia's Ovi Store rejected the No Agenda mobile widget after a three-month application process, citing "offensive language." The hosts dispute the claim that they use specific racial slurs and label Nokia the "douchebags of the week." They contrast this experience with the iPhone's more permissive stance on podcast language.

nokia· ovi store· censorship· podcasting· mobile apps

10:40 with our artwork and a link which should push us up in some listenership as well. As well as on the homepage of the the Miro Guide podcast directory, which apparently is good for a lot of impressions. And Let's see, there's a new site, but I don't think it's up yet, but I did like the idea noagendawords.com So I wanted to mention that to spur on the producer who was working on that producer project whenever we come up with a word Like we had what do we have the other the other day? We had expunge, you know, just good words to use to throw out at cocktail parties and

11:21 So I'm hoping that gets rolling. And I just want to call out Nokia as the absolute... DOUCHEBAG! Douchebags of the week. So there's been an initiative to try and get a... Nokia app which they have this little widget at the Ovi store Ovi at the ovary store over at Nokia and you basically just hand off your your podcast feed URL and then it's supposed to bake a little widget that you could load onto your phone and this has been going on for how long now John this is like two months three months it's been a while yeah so they finally so after is like you know we had there yeah yeah I don't want to get into it but

12:05 Oh, they lose you like a rudderless ship. I lost you there for a second. You said you didn't want to get into it Well, the only thing I thought was funny is that we were rejected for a number of reasons but the the number one reason that and this email just came in today for offensive content and offensive language such as the f-word the s-word and the n-word and I'm like that's an out-and-out life. Yeah, unless you're not of our way not to use the n-word Yeah, unless that the new n-word is basically Nokia. Oh that could be yeah, I just thought that was pretty unbelievable She's like wow anyway, and I wanted to test something on you John before we get rolling here because I don't know I'm Nokia's now the the Police the police and podcasts of language of course of course

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Matthew Simmons Death and BP Criticism

Energy analyst Matthew Simmons was found dead in his hot tub shortly after making aggressive criticisms of BP's handling of the Gulf oil spill. The hosts note conflicting reports regarding the cause of death, which shifted from a heart attack to drowning. They speculate on the suspicious timing given Simmons' prediction of a BP bankruptcy.

matthew simmons· bp oil spill· peak oil· hot tub· cia

14:45 And it's no difference between having executive producer credit on CSI as it is on No Agenda. It's an official Hollywood credit and of course we will vouch for you. Everybody else out there, go out, tell your kids to propagate the formula. It's this. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Alright, let's do it everybody. Say it with me. Shut up, Steve! Well,

15:26 I'm figuring there's a couple of things we can talk about right off the bat but I'd like to save some of them. There's just a ton of stuff going on and not one but two, two to the head moments this past week. What was the second one? Well, oh the second one was actually the first one of course. We'll have to talk about Senator Ted Stevens. Yeah. The first one came early in the week. Matt Simmons Oh yeah, right. Matt Simmons. Well that's not a very nice way to talk about someone who was just blown off. That's not very nice. You know what's weird about the Simmons story is that there were three reports and they were all different on how he died. Yeah, it started off with a heart attack, then it was in the swimming pool, and then it was in his hot tub. And we know that the hot tub of course is the new preferred method for the CIA of offing somebody.

16:27 You know, you can either drown in your hot tub or you can pull the cover over and suffocate. Yeah, because it's a common thing you want to do, to pull the cover over your own hot tub while you're in it. So Matt Simmons of course famously was criticizing BP for the oil spill and the government and BP for the handling of the oil spill. He's also by the way I think the propagator of the meme of peak oil. which I personally do not subscribe to. Well he propagated peak oil, he also said that by the end of July BP would file for bankruptcy. The guy has been, I have a tape of him in 2006 talking about oil selling for $300 a barrel by 2007. The guy is just a troublemaker. He's dead. Yeah well I think you know in this case it's, we get less disinformation now.

17:25 Then maybe you have some theory about why they killed him because I don't see it I think you I think you just you called it He was just a troublemaker and it was like enough of this guy cuz he was on television all over the place. No, they just They couldn't call him enough of an idiot or a kook because he came up with that whole peak oil thing and they just had to get rid of him Yeah, maybe yeah, I think so. I think this is a clear come on John This is a clear case of two to the head well. I mean it fits all the earmarks I mean all that was missing was being a hot in a hot tub in a small plane. Yeah, and committing suicide let's save the The Stevens crash because I have I definitely have a theory on that and it's not what you think it would be Okay, well good because I have a theory to beat your theory I

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

San Francisco Public Safety and Smart Parking Meters

A German tourist was fatally shot during a gang shootout in San Francisco's Union Square, prompting a warning against visiting the city. The discussion shifts to the SFMTA's new "smart" parking meters, which implement demand-responsive pricing. The hosts criticize the system as a revenue-generating scam rather than a traffic management tool.

san francisco· union square· sfmta· parking meters· demand pricing

18:11 Well, you want to you want no no no no you want to get into it now boys that would no no no let's do something else let's uh let's let's ease into the show and uh there's plenty of other things to talk about all right so some poor german woman was killed in union square while a couple of gangsters were having a shootout really yeah Yeah, and now they apparently they can't charge any fight. They could they got cameras all over the place, right? This is our great camera society spying on everything we do you mean the gunshot detectors? Yeah, the gunshot detectors and of course they could they got they got videos of all this stuff, but they can't identify anybody So they don't use where San Francisco Union Square. Yeah, like good luck on Gary and Mason Wow, and this is to by the way, so I'm warning people out there This is a public service that we do on the no agenda show. I

19:03 Don't go to San Francisco as a tourist especially if you're German You're gonna get off you're expendable if you're like An anniversary she's you know with her husband and they were here to celebrate and all the rest of it She just takes takes one step outside the hotel Which is right in Union Square and gets gunned down in San Francisco. This is like not a place to be no Nor is it a place to be when it comes to the new Parking meters have you been following this we've talked about meter thing is a complete fiasco, but don't get me started Well, I got to get you started because now the the new smart parking meters are going to do so-called demand responsive pricing

19:49 And which I challenge. I challenge this bull crap because I'll tell you right now, the whole area around that, the Mevio offices, there's millions of these parking meters. Nobody parks in them because there's free parking down the street. So the things are all empty. So by virtue of that theory, I should be able to walk up to one of those meters and put a nickel in and get an hour. It's still five minutes for 25 cents. So the smarter parking meters, which you'll be able to pay with a credit or debit card and soon with a special SFMTA card, will automatically adjust parking rates based upon supply and demand, which means, according to this article, you would pay anywhere between 25 cents an hour, right, to $6 an hour, right. They don't even give the real top rate here. $6 an hour is what it is around the Mevio offices.

20:43 20 which I believe is correct if I do my math right yeah, and they are there's nobody parking in these things How come the price hasn't gone down have you tried it when when it was empty? Yeah, it's the same. Really? And this is the new smart parking meter? Well, I mean, they are smart. They got the thing, I don't know. They look smart. They got the little thing where you stick a card in. They have the little bubble thing to let you... That's it. They have these little sensors in the street to make sure that you actually move your car because you can't actually put money in the meter and then put more money in the meter later. I mean, it's just a scam. Parking meters and the whole parking system was originally designed to keep traffic flowing. So the idea was you'd park your car and you made a gentleman's agreement with the city. And you still see this with the blue discs in France and elsewhere. You make a gentleman's agreement that you park and you will be gone after an hour or so, depending on what the rates, how long they let you stay.

21:36 And so your idea was you'd park and then you'd go and you'd park you go It was never meant to be a source of income for the city and then some bean counters showed up and say, you know We can make money off of these meters. Yeah, it's jack up the price. All right I won't get you started. They should take the meat, you know They've tried to put meters in the little town I live in over and over again and then the voters get pissed off and they we have no meters in this Did I just lose you? The parking meter should be removed from every city. For one thing, it's just overhead that costs money. I don't even think it pays for itself. You get some more government employees driving around in their own cars. Making $129,000 a year driving around in a truck. It's ridiculous. Get rid of them. Alright. Portugal, starting today, has the dubious honor of being the first country in the Western world

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Portugal Salt Limits and Codex Alimentarius

Portugal has implemented a law limiting the salt content in bread to 1.4 grams, with fines reaching 5,000 euros for violations. This move is linked to the global Codex Alimentarius standards. The hosts suggest the Portuguese government is complying with such regulations to ease EU political pressure following the financial crisis.

portugal· salt· bread· codex alimentarius· european union

22:33 to have a law that imposes limits on salt content in bread. Finally. Great, tasteless bread. Yeah, they've finally taken it further than any other country. This of course being part of the Codex Alimentarius and the assault on salt. Produce and... Here it is. Produce and bread with more than 1.4 grams of salt shall be punished with fines of up to 5,000 euros. Brother how do you test that how do you test how much salt is in bread after it's already baked? Oh, that's not not hard really no no you can just dissolve it into a limited amount of water and do it do it easy test that probably is easy to do

23:18 Salt's gonna dissolve into them into the liquid that you use and it's you titrate it with something if you're how much salt there is it's probably brain dead easy is Is that enough 1.4 grams of salt is that enough to make it taste good or I doubt it? There you go. You are officially the first country and get mo nation to have your food actually altered Well, you know the Portuguese are you know amongst those group the pigs? Portugal Italy Ireland Yeah, that Greece and Spain and they are probably just knuckling under to anything because they they they took big advantage of becoming an EU member and Modernized their entire country. It's gorgeous over there a great place to visit if you want a vacation go there instead of San Francisco We'd be better off and the food will be better for sure. I'll get shot and you won't get shot. I

24:10 But so they're probably just, you know, they're going along with any programs just so that the pressure is taken off of them, you know, so nobody's going to start looking at them to bust them, you know, bust them down like they did with Spain. Well, do you know they put up with this crap? They'll probably just cheat the system I get this is the sense that the Portuguese are old-school, you know, they I think they pull a little like, you know, yeah Yeah, whatever read the test and they make one loaf with no salt in it. Well, we'll see 5,000 euros is a pretty heavy fine random inspections from the grocery store Then you say hey, they lie. Somebody put salt on its bull crap here. Here's the so here's the salt-free loaf. I

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

United Nations Insect Consumption Initiative

The United Nations is promoting the consumption of insects as a sustainable alternative to meat to combat global warming and famine. The hosts discuss the commercialization of "edible" insects like toasted ants and chocolate-coated grasshoppers. They reference the book "Unmentionable Cuisine" to provide historical context on unconventional food sources during times of crisis.

united nations· entomophagy· global warming· edible.com· unmentionable cuisine

24:49 And as an average salt, they can make a couple salt-free loaves for people who can't have any salt and then make them salted up stuff. Of course the good news is drugs are legal in Portugal. Yeah, well. There's always a silver lining. The United Nations has come out. They of course are the ones behind the whole Codex Alimentarius push. And they're basically saying that we really can't go on like this eating pigs and cows. We need to eat insects. That oh yeah you beat me to that story. That's a great story. Let them eat bugs. Hot pockets filled with bugs. That's exactly the thing about this story which gets to me is like they don't you know this is a part of...

25:33 This is all part of a vegan global warming agenda to keep us from eating meat. By the way, who says that hot pockets aren't already filled with bugs? They could be. You don't know. You have to test for it. Yeah, it's easy. Simple test. Brain dead easy. So anyway, the... Yeah, it's against meat. That's correct. It's a it's a also all about meat vegetarians and the vegans and There's more to it John. It's alright. It's there's more to it. It's let me just tell you the exact statement It's to cut levels of meat consumption worldwide as part of the United Nations commitment to stamp out famine and cut global warming. The science is in! Let them eat bugs. Yeah, so they come out, so here, can you imagine the meetings? How are we going to introduce this to the public? I don't think some people are going to like the idea of eating bugs.

26:30 well you know i think if we just as slowly bring him into it they'll be eaten by you know we just have to and the funny thing was not not to mention is a really realize that i got a uh... package about those six months ago and i don't know if i'm i don't think i mentioned on the show i didn't think about it but it was some green initiative sending out uh... chocolate coated grasshoppers and so i got like this package chocolate coated grasshoppers and my daughter and her friend uh... They both ate one. Yeah. And said that they were... They were delicious. They said they were good. It's like eating a Kit Kat bar. It's got the crunch in it, you know, that crunchy... So it's like a Kit Kat, only with a real cat inside.

27:16 Anyway, it was like this little bug in your shirt and I refused to eat it and it had like green it had a bunch of green logos and it's good for you. It's good for the environment all this other crap. Lots of awards. well you can add that i mean this is being uh... integrated already by the way on uh... so let's just telling the people what they what they what these governments really think of you out there yeah you should just be eating worms and bugs and grouches i am telling you in our lifetime john we will see hot pockets with bugs and it'll have labels of greenness on it but from edible dot com you can now get uh...

27:56 A pack of giant toasted ants. Mmm. Yes, they are an inch long these toasted ants and they have a nutty bacon like taste with an earthy spicy kick. They are according to the marketing. Well, we're going to famine mode. These things will be at least we'll have something to do For the no agenda book club and the rest of these people have documented our entertainment site Yeah, it's called I have to get let me get the author but the book title is called unmentionable cuisine hmm, and this is a done from I believe was the University of North Carolina Press and

28:37 And it's a cookbook that is huge. It's pretty big and this professor documented every recipe in the world for like dog and rat and cat and various bugs and worms and strange things that you wouldn't think you could eat. And in fact, most of the recipes for the rat were developed by the French during the French Revolution, where the French had to eat something other than... they had nothing to eat. And so they started eating the rats of Paris, and some of these recipes are pretty interesting. I mean, because the French, you know, if you're going to eat rat, you might as well make it taste good. When we get into the show a little bit further on, I think there is some validity to this and I think there's some reasoning behind the fact that they're starting to get us accustomed to the idea of eating bugs, because we do have some major food problems on the horizon. And if you look at the futures of wheat,

29:30 uh... near this day that we are on the verge of some very very significant problems uh... particularly look at the weather world rock worldwide right now well you could still we feel the rush are burning so they're gonna stop their weed exports so you might want to think about uh... by some wheat futures the by the way i think in in that thing the next thing it is a gonna have a speeding boogers The juvenile Bug pockets now from the people who brought you hot pockets we bring you bug pockets Yum, great party snack tasty and good for you. But yeah boogers are next no problem Most of the people the United Nations already do that by the way eat boogers so I noticed in your clips you didn't have anything about Naomi Campbell

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Naomi Campbell and the Charles Taylor Trial

Supermodel Naomi Campbell testified at the International Criminal Court in The Hague regarding "blood diamonds" allegedly gifted to her by Liberian warlord Charles Taylor. The hosts critique the theatrical nature of the court and the conflicting testimonies from Campbell, Mia Farrow, and agent Carol White. They question why Nelson Mandela, who hosted the dinner where the gift occurred, has escaped scrutiny.

naomi campbell· charles taylor· mia farrow· blood diamonds· the hague

30:30 Yeah, I know it's a shame. I kind of just I didn't even pay any attention to what's the latest well Let me just fire up So Naomi Campbell we now have full testimony from her and also from her former agent Carol white And this thing is, you could turn this into a mini-series. I mean literally a movie of the week. It's so amazing. But of course the best testimony comes from Mia Farrow and I'd just like to play some of that at the International Criminal Court in The Hague, I might remind you. Miss Farrow, at this breakfast table... By the way, who are all these people, these judges on this Starfleet Command? Didn't we play this last show? No, we didn't play Mia Farrow.

31:18 Did we play me? No, no, it was my wish had come true that she would testify. Yeah, and that was a clip. No, I don't think so. Well, that's okay, we can play it again. Well, but let me ask you this. You're always calling me on these real questions. I may be wrong, but it's just too nutty. this international criminal court who are these judges who are these people you know they're wearing like red capes and that yeah they wear red red garbs yeah they're wearing costumes it's a kangaroo court it's ridiculous and the fact that anybody pays any attention or takes it seriously or thinks we should be members and and be subject to their edicts is beyond me.

32:12 Charles Taylor, Evil Warlord's attorney. No, he didn't play that, nor did we actually play Naomi Campbell's full testimony, which is just hilarious. I've been looking for finding the full testimony, I have not found it yet. Yeah, I've got most of it. So this is from Sky News and here is, what's her name again, Carol White. I hear about the arrangements at the end of the dinner, that some men had been dispatched to Johannesburg, which was about two hours away, I believe. to collect some diamonds and to bring them back to the guesthouse. Was there discussion about the arrangements at the dinner table? So this is the...

32:53 uh... the lawyer for uh... taylor the uh... the guy who uh... he was using blood diamonds to buy a weapons and maybe with namey brian you about that after that in a when we stood up and talk with the minister of defense and i believe charles charles taylor was there for a second about the logistics of getting these times to namey campbell did you hear any discussion about arrangements at the dinner table I don't really recall. Well, try and help us, please. Did you hear any arrangements being made at the dinner table as to how the diamonds were to be delivered? I heard about the diamonds being delivered, and it was my understanding it had already started. The men had already started on their journey.

33:46 And I heard that at the end of the dinner. So these guys actually were... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So in other words, there was information... Before she even... Because they were talking about it at the dinner table with Nelson Mandela, I might point out. Oh yeah. Clean as a whistle he is. But we've got to listen to Naomi Campbell because it's just too funny when you hear this horrible woman who commits acts of violence upon people with objects of hardness like cell phones. And she was flirting with this Charles Taylor. I got pictures in the show notes of her like grabbing his ass almost and on a you know in like a group picture and she's like all hugging him and she knew she's like I'm getting I'm getting a diamond and of course she was really disappointed when they turned out to be a couple of dirty rocks. It was a bizarre. Too stupid to know what what diamonds look like in the rough. Wait a minute hold on a second. Hold on. What?

34:40 clips going yeah i know i'm uh... you know i think there's a there's a there's a little bit discrepancy here that's worth noting She gave these, she got these rocks, she obviously wanted them, the dirty rocks, but when she talked to Mia Farrow, and I don't doubt Farrow's account of this, at least, you know, she's a little nutty, but she says, oh, I just got this big diamond. I'm thinking she got a big diamond. And a couple of dirty rocks. And a couple of little ones, and she gave the little ones to her attorney saying get rid of these things, you know, I probably can't get them out of the country, and then smuggled the big diamond, there's places in your body you can hide a rock. and left the country with it. She still probably either still has it or she had it made into a, she had it cut, who knows?

35:22 Well let's listen just for a second. I don't know this much. Yeah, well apparently they were already talking about it before she got them that evening and it's the whole thing is uh it just it just shows you how elitism works. It's sleazy. Yes it is. ...against her will to give evidence under oaths. I solemnly swear on the Bible. Why? Since when does the Bible have anything to do with the International Criminal Court? She's standing there swearing on the Bible. I need to understand how this thing works. That I will speak the truth. That I will speak the truth. The whole truth. The whole truth. And nothing but the truth. And nothing but the truth. The supermodel was asked whether she was given conflict diamonds by the African dictator Charles Taylor at this charity dinner held by Nelson Mandela in 1997. When I was sleeping, I had to knock on my door and I opened my door

36:14 and two men were there and gave me a pouch. A pouch? And said, a gift for you. Yeah, we ran this last week. You know what time it is. Alright, well people can go, I mean there's a lot of gems in here, we didn't run the whole thing. But it's okay, I can tell you're bored, it's fine. It's okay. Well, she beats around the bush. Well, yeah. Anyway, the thing that really gets me is just looking at this footage and looking at this court. What is this court? Who are these people who died and made them God? And why do we have to swear on the Bible? You know, is this a court that, you know, by whose laws, how does it work? And well, we know why it's in the Netherlands because of course that is elite central. But it's just, it's just unbelievable, unbelievable. They're, they're get ups and it's just, yeah, no, I find the whole thing abhorrent.

37:11 Yes, it's a great word. Anyway, what's gonna come of it? And what are they gonna do? And why is Charles Taylor locked up by these people in the Hague? Yeah, and how come Nelson Mandela gets a free ticket? I mean, it was at his house! A crime was committed in his house! A crime committed in his house! Yeah, I don't know. Next. Okay, let me hop on the Haiti train for a moment then. A little more information about Wyclef Jean.

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Wyclef Jean Haiti Presidential Run and Corporate Ties

Wyclef Jean's arrival in Haiti to announce his presidential candidacy involved a Gulfstream IV jet linked to NetJets Middle East and frequently used by Bill Clinton and Goldman Sachs. The hosts argue that Jean is a corporate-sponsored candidate intended to facilitate oil refinery projects and luxury developments. They mock the Clinton-Bush-Haiti Fund for awarding a $50,000 grant to a paper-mache artist while the general population remains in poverty.

wyclef jean· haiti· bill clinton· goldman sachs· netjets

37:48 and the aircraft, because of course that's where some of my expertise lies. This is when he was departing onto the tarmac in his politician get-up as he is now more than likely going to become the president of Haiti. He stepped out of a Gulfstream IV with tail number November 254 Gulf Alpha. So I've gotten a little more information. This is actually owned By or at least by I'm sorry we know it's owned by the Gulfstream Corporation, but at least by net jets Middle East limited now that should ring a couple bells And I've looked at some of the passenger manifests. It is often used by Goldman Sachs JP Morgan and and and who Bill Clinton oh That's hilarious

38:45 Good call. Yeah, it's like so... How did you find that out? Well, this is... I mean, so much information is available. I'm sure they'll lock this down now so that you can't find any more information on this plane. It'll become a black plane. Or he just won't use it anymore. But yeah, this is very obvious and what Sean Penn ineloquently said is true. The guy is sponsored by big corporations, big oil, that's what the whole Haiti thing is about. They've sold off pieces of the island, actual pieces of the island to an oil refinery. We've uncovered that on a previous episode of No Agenda. to create a huge refinery. Ships can pull right up, no problem. And Billy Boy Clinton will be responsible for all the nice hotels and casinos. On the North Shore. On the North Shore. So what's the... Does Sean Penn bring up the Clinton stuff? No. No, he didn't.

39:37 He just said corporations, which I think... So he doesn't see the Clinton connection to any of this? I mean, he might, but he flakes out. He flakes out. He's a good guy. But there is good news. The Clinton-Bush-Haiti fund has finally publicly awarded some money to... Let's see if I have the guy's name here. to the artists of Jacquemel. $50,000 to this artist who his trademark is making paper mache sculptures in Haiti. I know. It's like government work. $50,000 to a guy who makes paper mache.

40:30 Meanwhile, you know, in Haiti, where they get paid a quarter a day. Ask Sean Penn what he could do with $50,000 to help some people who are dying. It's just unbelievable. And then this is a new story. Yeah, this is great. Although not a massive sum, the story reads. It is for that guy. The grant will fund the rebuilding of ten ateliers destroyed in January's earthquake and literally put new roofs over the heads of a team of artists. Oh man. Huh. Yeah, exactly. So, our eyes are on you Billy Boy and Wyclef Jean Boy.

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Innovative Design Protection and Piracy Prevention Act

Senator Chuck Schumer has introduced legislation to extend copyright and patent protections to the fashion industry. The hosts argue this would destroy the industry's traditional cycle of imitation and turnover, favoring large corporations like Nike. They characterize the bill as a move toward "communist-style" standardized clothing production.

chuck schumer· fashion industry· copyright· patent· innovative design act

41:11 Yeah, and all the good it does yeah now. Well. We'll keep our eyes. We can just keep exposing That's about all we can do I mean we have no power right so let's get back to the Ted Stevens thing now Okay, although I do have a little bit of kind of I have a kind of a crossover story if you want to sure that's easy to it sure It turned this is like kind of between real news and but this is a story that just shows you the kind of the kind of problems or have it you know greed is an issue and Mm-hmm in in the world of business and government And there's no difference between the two apparently so Chuck Schumer and Ten co-sponsors have introduced and this is from metafilter have introduced the innovative design protection and piracy prevention act and

42:04 It's essentially designed to give the fashion industry, which has some of the greatest millionaires and billionaires in the world because they make so much money off of the fashion, the idea of fashion. They're trying to get the, this is a front bunch of congressmen fronting for the fashion business, to try to make it so you could patent and copyright designs of clothes. Yeah, which which of course is the whole fashion industry is based upon copying. It's the way it works you have the haute couture you have the big fashion shows and then H&M and all these So they have to come through the next cycle That's why you have all these seasons and you have this turnover of clothes and these guys make millions and millions of dollars Because of it because there is no you know copyright

42:53 of fashion but now they want to make it so there is so these big companies can just essentially what the fashion industry would like or what the what the CEOs of these big corporations would love nothing better than is why do we have to go through all this trouble making this new designs every year why don't we just get it copyrighted nobody can copy it and if anybody does we'll just buy them and we'll just become some, you know, just produce kind of communist style clothing. Blue jeans. Gets everybody dressed the same. Men don't give a crap anyway. And women, you know, they can eat it, you know, we'll just get them off this fashion track and we're just rolling money and nobody can, you know, steal from us. No one can touch us. No one can touch us. Right.

43:36 It's ridiculous, this is the kind of laziness that's set in. This is why we get government workers making $125,000 a year. And you have a link to this story that I can put in the show notes? Oh, send me a link right now. Yeah, I definitely want to investigate this. That would kind of destroy the whole fashion industry. It would, but they don't care. It wouldn't destroy their bottom line. Well, who's behind this then? Schumer, some congressman. Who by the way is the icon of fashion. I don't know what companies are but you can assume it's like Nike or some of these guys like that have all these you know little logos and things they like to protect. It's got to be, I can't believe it's a European icon.

44:15 Idea it's got to be American. It can't be though It can't be people who are really into the fashion industry because they live on that that's the whole idea. Yeah, they live on turnover Okay, anyway, just this interesting little thing that's happening. It's there's another decimation of you know Whatever rights we have left. All right, so a plane goes down in Alaska nine people on board some interesting players a former NASA and now Airbus guy, Senator Ted Stevens, who of course, very controversial figure. And I definitely have a theory, but I think it's better if we hear yours first. Because I... No, why would it be better if you heard mine first? Because... just trust me. All right.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Senator Ted Stevens Plane Crash and BP Memoirs

Former Senator Ted Stevens died in a plane crash in Alaska, leading to theories about political foul play. Stevens was reportedly working on memoirs that could have exposed government skeletons, and he had recently received a million-dollar grant from BP for his archives. The hosts discuss the dismissal of his previous ethics charges due to prosecutorial misconduct.

ted stevens· alaska· plane crash· bp· memoirs

43:36 It's ridiculous, this is the kind of laziness that's set in. This is why we get government workers making $125,000 a year. And you have a link to this story that I can put in the show notes? Oh, send me a link right now. Yeah, I definitely want to investigate this. That would kind of destroy the whole fashion industry. It would, but they don't care. It wouldn't destroy their bottom line. Well, who's behind this then? Schumer, some congressman. Who by the way is the icon of fashion. I don't know what companies are but you can assume it's like Nike or some of these guys like that have all these you know little logos and things they like to protect. It's got to be, I can't believe it's a European icon.

44:15 Idea it's got to be American. It can't be though It can't be people who are really into the fashion industry because they live on that that's the whole idea. Yeah, they live on turnover Okay, anyway, just this interesting little thing that's happening. It's there's another decimation of you know Whatever rights we have left. All right, so a plane goes down in Alaska nine people on board some interesting players a former NASA and now Airbus guy, Senator Ted Stevens, who of course, very controversial figure. And I definitely have a theory, but I think it's better if we hear yours first. Because I... No, why would it be better if you heard mine first? Because... just trust me. All right.

45:12 Stevens cropped up in Washington, D.C. in late 2009, all of a sudden, after he was, you know, he essentially was first charged with an ethics violation and then they, after they found him guilty in a court of law and he lost his election, The government says, well, you know, it probably was a, it was mis- He was never convicted. He was never convicted because of procedural issues. Right. And then they thought it was prosecutorial misconduct and they were going to actually throw the book at the prosecutors and indict them.

45:47 And, but you know, this is all after the fact, because they already lost his election, so he's out now, so who cares? I mean, they just wanted to get rid of him. They wanted to get him out of office. They were just going to screw the guy for one reason or another. I will mention this, by the way. I was watching, and I have some clips from Democracy Now!, and Democracy Now! insists when they gave his obit on calling him a convicted violator you know they they really made it was not true which is that i know it's a lie but this is the democracy now that they you know they don't want to give you the real details they want to give you a little democrat liberal progressive angle on things that which is sometimes skewed right so anyway so he shows up in washington dc you know he's not a happy camper and he's floating around with a couple of uh...

46:31 ghostwriters and he makes it clear in public that he's gonna do his memoirs and everybody knows for a fact that these memoirs aren't gonna be very amenable to the powers that be that got him kicked out so he's on the track to spill his guts about stuff that God knows what next thing you know he's dead. Do you know that his memoirs received a grant for... From who? From BP. a million dollar grant from BP. That's nice. Yeah, that's convenient. So you think that this was a hit, a total two to the head on Stevens because his memoirs were going to come out and embarrass a lot of people? Yeah, and if you looked at the committees he was on, he was on a lot of committees. In fact, he was on the Homeland Security Committee

47:24 Subcommittee, oh no the committee, and then he was on a bunch of intelligence subcommittees. He was floating around that whole area He knew a lot of he knows where a lot of skeletons are hidden. He's you know he's too old He's getting kind of weird They couldn't take a chance the BP thing probably has something to do with it because they said you know you got to tell the story about you know the truth about something about the yeah well and so boom he's dead and Yeah, possible. Possible. I approach it from a different angle. Is this a topper? I think it might be. So of course when I hear about an aviation accident I immediately start investigating what happened and all of the mainstream news reports have absolutely no information whatsoever. They don't even pull out the bad weather card other than it was bad weather which hampered rescue efforts but they just say, eh, you plowed into a mountain. Right? There's nothing there. Nothing. Commonplace.

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

HAARP Weather Modification and Alaska Aviation Anomalies

The hosts explore a theory that the HAARP array in Alaska caused the crash of Senator Ted Stevens' plane via a high-frequency "Tesla beam." They note that the pilot, Terry Smith, was highly experienced and that his son-in-law had died in a similar crash nearby just weeks prior. The discussion links HAARP activity to global weather anomalies, including fires in Russia and flooding in China.

haarp· alaska· weather warfare· terry smith· tesla beam

48:21 What do you mean? Happens every day. Yeah. So I look into who's piloting the plane and the guy piloting the plane is Terry Smith. Now Terry Smith is a very, very experienced pilot and these Bush pilots by the way, these guys who fly Otters and this Haviland, they know what they're doing. Okay. Yes, things happen but they do know. The guy had 29,000 flight hours uh... he actually i think was chief pilot at alaska air uh... the guy it's not and not something for him to just you know right after takeoff is only this was very close to where they took off from from the sub large and to then uh... have such a cat a catastrophic accident uh... so you would immediately have to figure some kind of uh... failure on the craft now when you look into uh... uh... terry smith his son-in-law

49:22 Died just two weeks ago while flying a c-17 aircraft In the same region what happens he takes off plane crashes a couple minutes after takeoff a c-17 So you starting to feel me yet? I'm listening. It's kind of a coincidence all right now you have to bear with me Don't go Oh brother immediately on me. Okay. Okay. Do it before you do anything get out of the way. Yes, just do Oh brother Oh brother now. Let's look around the world right now and Currently we have huge flooding in China, India, we have Russia burning, we have Japan 21,000 people in hospital for due to heat stroke, we have Africa severe drought, we have

50:19 Very crazy weather going on in the southern hemisphere Argentina, Uruguay, Chile Extremely cold California Extremely cold. So what does this do? This is messing up our food supply. This is why I alluded to it earlier And now you have to go and look at the charts. What has been on consistently for the past couple weeks is the harp array in Alaska. They have been beaming and have been modifying the weather for weeks. And you can just look around. And the East Coast of America, we're frying in the East Coast.

50:58 So what happened is these guys, I don't know if it was intentional, but it would be very convenient for Senator Stevens, they got fried by a Tesla beam from this harp array. And what happens is I have like a nice logical exposition no no no no second half of the show material You gotta stay with me So what happens is Terry who's good for Terry Smith is good friends with Steve and says dude this accident with my son-in-law That's messed up. There's something weird going on it has to do with the Harper a He, he, they're up there together. They actually want to do some investigative work as well and they get fried. There's no other reason for this plane to come down unless they can give me a reason which they're not doing. The NTSB is shutting up. Everyone's completely quiet. Normally when you see an accident they say, oh okay, well so you know here's what happened, here's what it looked like. Now it's just like the wings were bent off of this thing. Bent off. Not broken off, bent off.

51:58 Okay, there's so many anomalies that I absolutely am convinced that there's some kind of weirdness going on and you put all of that weather related stuff together and The Harper a as we know is in Alaska. This was a fry job. All right makes no sense But my as opposed to my argument which makes some sense. I But you can stay with that theory. I mean, so it's not two shots, it was just an accident is what you're saying. No, no, I'm saying it's total two to the head, but it's because they were in... You know, they've been killing people in these small planes for, what, decades without using laser beam, harp.

52:43 or whatever it's being used for, mostly for telecommunications by the way. But with bombs and screwing up the plane in one way or another, but now they're going to get carried away? Does that make any sense? Let's just put a bomb on the thing and blow it up in the sky. No, this is a lot more convenient. Remember we had a very experienced pilot on board. It's a lot more convenient. Yes, all they have to do is just turn the antenna like three degrees and zap them out of the sky. There's a lot of people involved with this facility with planning a bombing. Yeah, name one. Name one person you know involved with this facility. You have no idea. No one knows anyone from this facility. But there's people. There's more than one lone guy

53:24 floating around some covert agent. This coming from the guy who thinks there's two Obamas? You're telling me that this is outrageous? Two Obamas only involves one person. This Harper is not operated by one guy by himself getting messages you know over some code name. They even sent in a hit squad to make sure the right people were dead. Listen to the differences between the two BBC reports. The first report comes out and Five people were at the scene earlier on Tuesday helping the victims of the flight but it is unclear how they reached the wreckage according to the National Guard. The National Guard in Alaska reported that a private medical team had been dropped near the area of the crash by a commercial helicopter on Tuesday. Uh-huh.

54:07 Now they're air dropping guys in, so we know what that team was doing. And then they changed this report, and we have PDFs of the web pages. Several local Samaritans had reached the wreckage before rescuers could arrive and tended to the survivors. Please, please. They went in and made sure that they were well taken care of. And there is a full-scale war going on and we're not opening our eyes because it's so big, it's as big as the mountain that they flew into, that there's a weather war going on. A full-scale weather war. And the United States is propagating it. Why else do you think Russia's burning up? All of a sudden this just happens?

54:50 It's like crazy. It was a global warming, John. What's your rationale? Global warming, exactly. Okay, just want to make sure. You know what, I'm not going to disagree with the possibility of some sort of a weather war, which I don't think has anything to do with this particular instance of Ted Stevens. And I would say that if there was, global warming would be the good cover story. Because it's like what if people notice that this is going on. You know what are we gonna? How are we gonna explain it? Well, we've got global warming. That's what's doing it So that's that's what they that's what they're saying about the East Coast that's being used to bring in our cap and trade Regulations and all the rest it's people are dying everywhere you don't even hear a breath on the news about the thousands of people who have drowned from flooding

55:37 And this the harp array has been on consistently. It's on it's frying stuff How do you know it's arm on? You can the frequencies are known you can you can you can actually listen to it you could do there's there's shortwave radio sites everywhere on the net that monitor harp all the time and it's on Are you gonna have links in the show? No, sure, of course, of course. All right. Well, I consider this crazy Okay But again, I mean, we don't have an explanation for the crash, but... Yeah, I gave you the explanation. They were investigating what was going on, why this guy's son-in-law all of a sudden died. Where was Harp in regards to the plane crash? Where's Harp located up there? And where was the plane? Was it nearby? Was it walking distance? What were they flying around it? All you have to do is just focus the beam. It's that simple.

56:35 I'll tell you where it is. That's simple. Yeah, well that look they're frying Russia. Yeah, I know I know you don't believe this. That's okay. No, it's okay. You can it's fine It's fine if you want to go off in that direction. It's okay I need to put it out there because I really believe that there is the the frequency is 3.39 megahertz. That's where you can hear them and the actual location, someone in the chat room will know what the actual location is but it doesn't matter, it's up there in Alaska and I think that this guy's son-in-law maybe accidentally flew through the beam and the plane got fried and went down and they were possibly flying in the same area or they were investigating and they just got fried and it was convenient because Stevens was a pain in the butt anyway

57:28 But I think Stevens was probably helping the guy. Stevens is a big pain in the ass. He knows what's going on. He knows what's going on in Alaska. He knows about HAARP. And then they send in BP to go finance the archives so we'll never see anything. They now effectively own the archives, so none of that stuff will ever come out. That's convenient for your theory. Yeah, well for yours too. Well, I suppose. All right. So that will keep us it's radiation week by the way in case you hadn't noticed it's yeah We have radioactive wild boars in Germany we have radio radiation In the streets of Berlin and of course the Moscow fires You know all of this all the wood that has been radiated or whatever is now going to put radiation into the air That's the me with the week is rich radiation week. Did you get the memo? Yeah, I missed the memo on that one

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Donation Drive and 10-10-10 Planning

The hosts thank recent donors and discuss the "Value for Value" model, specifically planning a major event for October 10, 2010. They address technical issues with PayPal canceling monthly subscriptions and announce that the first batch of No Agenda challenge coins has sold out.

paypal· 10-10-10· donations· mothership· challenge coins

58:24 But after that fine exhibition of crack-pottedness, I think it's time we take our little... By the way, I want to get a telephone ringing. So when we're asking for donations and support and contributions that we have the phone ringing in the background because I'm noticing PBS using it more than usual. Really the old-fashioned one to the phone that nobody owns anymore. Let me see if I can find one for you I was when I was on the Adam Carolla show, you know Of course, we brought up business models and stuff like that and I said, oh, you know PBS is you know I'd say a PBS or a bunch of jackoffs and I said, you know, they use this fake they use a sound loop and they're like, oh, yeah, I never thought about that So yeah, it's because you know, you're so conditioned and people don't realize that and

59:15 Don't have a sound if there will get one and we'll make a background track. I'll have it looped so I want to thank some people who donated to the show in the last week or so and I want to start by I'm gonna let fact I'm gonna let Adam mention the first one Okay, this is her Yeah, he says Walter, but I'll call him by his birth name Wouter Celsius from Hilversum the Netherlands This donation is to get me $333.33 away from my knighthood, not counting my monthly $33.33 donations. I'd also like some good karma for my mom who's getting a new hip in two weeks time. My last donation will be on 10-10-2010. Seems like the perfect date to get knighted, as it's my birthday that day as well. I think Adam should spend this money on iTunes downloads for some DSC shows.

1:00:10 Love the show. It has kept me sane in an insane world for the past few years. Oh and John, please come back to the chat room. But it helps if you register your nick. Yeah, because I get kicked off. So, by the way, I think we might do a special, I think maybe within the next month or so, or as soon as possible, do a special donation drive for 101010. This is only going to happen once every thousand years. I'm doing my donation thing man. I'm doing my rings. It sounds like it sounds like some it sounds like somebody's killing a cat It sounds good here piercing my ears Much of a ring that's a great ring. What are you talking about? It's a perfect ring this triggers people immediately. I must send money I need to send money

1:01:04 So anyway, 10-10-10 is a big deal because 10-10-day for one thing is a Chinese lucky day and then 10-10-10 has got to be wow. And that's coming up. Brian Rogers, Newton, New Jersey, $101.01, former Soviet spy, a donation of his belated wedding gift for our fellow producer Pete M. from NYC, wishing him and his wife a congratulations. The show is great stuff. Matthew Carey, Eastwood, South Australia, $100.00. Monty Gonzalez, Stockton, California, Stockton. Do I hear another bid for Stockton? The whole town is up for sale. Thomas Stamulus, Dulles, Virginia, 8910. Hello, John and Adam. I've been listening to you for the last few months since moving to Morocco. Nice. He's from Dulles, Virginia. Now he's living in Morocco. Glad to see that we have people from parts of Virginia.

1:01:58 Listen to the show if you know what I mean. I really appreciate each episode I figured out use today's date to start my March toward knighthood Please use this as a token of my appreciation for better bandwidth in the last few episodes been a struggle Keep up the good work, and I look forward to many more episodes. I picked up a coin IJ herka Warren Dyte Victoria 66 66 Kenneth keel holes Hamilton, Ohio, $55.92, no explanation. Lincoln, Millwood, Duluth, Georgia, $55.00. Robert Alter, Kansas City, Missouri. Joseph Gazz, Wilmington, Delaware. Jeremy Peck, Melbourne, Australia.

1:02:44 and Lisa Lang from Fitzroy, North Victoria. We got a lot of Australians this week and of course she was a knight, she's on a knight track and the rest of them all gave $50. Game hood layaway. Layaway, knight track. Ice Spike Corporation, Lake City, Florida. $50 and finally John Ganatus, Ganatus, Ganotus, Ganatus. Fayetteville, New York also 50 so and all of you who are on a monthly plan the $5 a month or the lucky mothership boarding pass $33.33 we really appreciate those donations and a couple people said they did go back and and checked

1:03:28 to see if their monthly donations were still on and some of them had indeed been cancelled. PayPal has this mysterious way of cancelling things, these monthly donations, and no one really understands how it happens. Yeah, sometimes you change your card number or maybe your card date changed, who knows? Whatever the case is, they drop it. Boom! Really fast. Justin Stokes says, in the morning I bought one of the challenge coins. Within a day my wife was contacted about a new job after having just been laid off. This is great.

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Bill Hicks on Commercialism and Artistic Integrity

A clip of comedian Bill Hicks is played to explain why the No Agenda show refuses traditional advertising. Hicks argues that doing commercials makes a person a "corporate shill" and compromises their artistic integrity. The hosts use this to justify their rejection by the Nokia Ovi store and their reliance on listener support.

bill hicks· commercialism· advertising· corporate shill· no agenda

1:04:05 The challenge coins are sold out. We're done. That's it. It's all done. He's going to have to design a second batch or something of a different kind with a different design. Or maybe he can just get on the night rings, John. It's just a thought. I could. So I want to play just a quick bit of audio because people May not understand our model The formula of course is simple going out and hidden people in the month in the mouth But Bill Hicks who he died a lot how many years ago to Bill Hicks die the rock and roll guy bill Hicks the comedian Bill Hicks

1:04:40 Oh, that guy. I don't know that he's dead, is he? Hell yeah. Yeah, he's been dead for a number of years, I'm sure. I don't know. He, uh, um, and he was a real go out and hit him in the mouth kind of guy. And here's what he had to say about commercialism. This is more about doing a commercial, but it really does explain why we do not take any money for commercials. We don't do commercials. We don't take commercial money because, well, listen to this. Here's the deal, folks. You do a commercial, you're off the artistic roll call forever. End of story. Okay? You're another corporate fucking shill, you're another whore at the capitalist gangbang, and if you do a commercial, there's a price on your head, everything you say is suspect, and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a turd falling into my drink.

1:05:29 And that's the truth. I guess that summarizes it. That's the truth. And that's why we're not in the Nokia Ovi store, ladies and gentlemen. All right, we have a couple of knighthoods we have to take care of. These are knights. Actually, there's a, there's a, I want to mention before you start, there's a fourth one that I just got a note on. I got it. I got, I got all four. I got all four. We have four knights in the order. of the mint and one of them is a double black knight that is the fourth one that that we that we just got in so he is the last one there is the black knight I order the mentors he just had nights in the agenda roundtable no I think he's order of the mint and a black knight

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony and Open Source Branding

Four new knights are officially dubbed into the No Agenda Roundtable following their $1,000 donations. The hosts also discuss how their open-source brand is being used by fans for various projects, while noting that some virus scanners recently flagged their XML feed as malicious.

knighthood· open source· virus scanners· dvorak.org· branding

1:06:12 Okay, yeah, it's confusing. It's getting complicated It's getting very complicated Victor Osterdahl Stephen Lowe Glenn Mercer and Harry Selwood, please step forward John time to draw yes. Yeah good The four of you have successfully completed your quest of a donation of $1,000 in your name to the No Agenda show. And you've done this by purchasing a No Agenda challenge coin from noagendafans.com. So hereby we knight thee, all four, Victor, Steven, Glenn, and Harry, as knights of the No Agenda round table in the order of the Mint! Please come forward! Enjoy our hookers and blow!

1:07:03 Wow, the table's filling up. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have to do it. Hopefully they won't all meet in one place. We also have, let's see, I think we have a birthday. I think we should do that one while we're here. It's your birthday, birthday On NOAH Agenda Actually, I think we have two. So, happy birthday to Aaron Stokes. Happy 23rd. He apparently is a... There we go, lots of mixing going on. And also, Eleanor Schultes would like to say happy birthday to her boyfriend, John Foley. Happy birthday from your friends here at NOAH Agenda. It's your birthday, yeah

1:07:46 Now we did have some douchebag callouts that I saw in the PayPal thing. I'm not seeing them in my list here. Okay. Well while you're looking for that let me again thank everybody who is on the under $50 a month donation list as you know that's what we keep anonymous and everyone who's on the on the monthlies particularly the mothership boarding pass only 1,000 of them actually 999 because I'm on board John is staying behind to fight the zombies And if you would like to sponsor this show, which is completely listener supported, go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Of course you can find the link at noagendashow.com. And for the firewall challenge, it's channeldvorak.com slash, I'm sorry, yeah, channeldvorak.com slash NA. We popped up in a couple of virus scanners for some reason. Oh, really? Yeah, the AVA virus scanner.

1:08:48 Decided that That we were no good. Who's we yeah? No agenda and Dvorak no agenda show calm. Yeah our XML feed all of a sudden was no good It contained a virus so they said and a lot of people noticed this a lot of people sent me email about it And I guess a lot of people went back to the company and said hey, and they changed it now We're off so we're back on the good list. What would cut what would cause the trigger? I think you know someone can just push a button and say this is bogus You know someone probably got got angry at us Hmm. This is a do we have to be diligent about this?

1:09:28 Well, our producers luckily are very good. Yeah, luckily they are. That's the great thing about being open source. I mean, one of the things, you know, Paul Couture apparently has offered his idea of these challenge coins to other people. uh... and they just on this to shove it to you know if you have a little while you're taking our brand uh... are are using our name you can't do that to that's no good to i mean you gotta go into the room to brown we're taking in again go to the war dot org slash in a help us do this we are completely open source we we we do ask for donations and contributions and support because we we are essentially giving away everything I mean we give our brand name is out there for anyone to use and some people have misused it and some people most people haven't you we have you trust the public you trust people to start their own initiatives they have is a no agenda book club you know we don't have any agenda tv.com me this tons tons of sites

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Mainstream Media Demographics and Robert Gibbs

Nielsen data shows the median age of mainstream news viewers is rising into the 50s, suggesting the "old model" of television is dying. The hosts also discuss White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs' criticism of "professional liberals," which led Cindy Sheehan to call for Gibbs to undergo drug testing.

nielsen· robert gibbs· cindy sheehan· drug testing· demographics

1:10:26 all out there for people to take advantage of the situation is open source and this is shows you the power of the just letting you know that things grow on their own instead of trying to be control freaks which is an old model that is dying and it is what has resulted in in the country itself as a fractal our government employees getting a hundred twenty five thousand dollars a year while you get jack we gotta play the john c borax The old model literally is dying, John. The latest Nielsen data shows that the median viewership... of mainstream television which of course includes mainstream television news is well here's the list ABC's median age 51 CBS 55 NBC 49 and Fox 44 they don't have the young audience anymore and we think they're gonna some of these networks are getting it like CBS

1:11:27 or getting so old that they're actually the network themselves as a network, they're going to get a social security check. It won't be very big but they'll be getting one. Yeah it won't be as big as a government workers pay check. I think you should get one a little early in the morning for that one. That was good. I like that. Remember what you said many times about Robert Gibbs, the spokeshole for President Obama and the administration? This is the guy who does his daily show, the Robert Gibbs show in front of the press, and does a little stand up, and a little, you, I'm so cool. What have you said a couple times about him? He's a douchebag? Yeah, well, besides that. What? That he's coked out. Oh, yeah, well, he sounds coked out. If I talk like this on the show, ladies and gentlemen, you start hearing me talking kind of like this.

1:12:15 Well, you just assume that they don't have a cold, but if it never goes away I've probably got something called cocaine in my nose. So Cindy Sheehan has called him out Now unfortunately don't have a sound I don't think there is a sound clip of what Gibbs said They blew up did he what? Well, when he made all these comments about progressives and professional liberals. Yeah, he said they should have their urine tested for drugs. Yeah. And Cindy Sheehan has thrown down the gauntlet and said, hey, we should test your urine, douche.

1:12:51 I think that's a really good idea. We should test that guy for drugs. We should test all of them for drugs I bet you they're high as a kite there in the West Wing. Well, you know you got to work hard You know sometimes you need a little you need an energy boost when Red Bull won't do the trick I can just see Gibbs snorting blow off of Lindsay Lohan's ass I don't think so. Didn't mean to hurt you Just to show you how that ministry of truth really works, Charlie Gasparino, who used to work at CNBC. I'm sure you've seen this guy on the air. He now works at Fox Business, of course, that no one watches.

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

GE Influence on NBC and CNBC Editorial Policy

Charlie Gasparino reports that GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt held meetings with NBC and CNBC executives to demand more favorable coverage of the Obama administration. The hosts discuss CNBC's history of being "market boosters" and the pressure on financial news networks to align with government economic narratives.

jeffrey immelt· general electric· nbc· cnbc· barack obama

1:13:31 Yeah, and so he was on O'Reilly I'm surprised you haven't you didn't see this maybe you did Talking about the meeting that Jeffrey Immelt who of course sits on the president's economic advisory board and of course General Electric up until this recent merger with Univ was a universal now Comcast. I'm sorry Comcast of course now owns all of the NBC properties, but it was owned by General Electric during the run-up of course to the Obama election, to the elections and Obama being put in the White House. And listen to what he has to say about the meeting that was called between Immelt, the CEO of GE, owner of all the NBC properties, and all of the station managers of these different properties.

1:14:24 I talked that up really well, but I for some reason can't yeah, yeah, I don't know why but no for some it won't play Oh It's pissing me off. I'm sorry. You don't play eventually no Let me try it again. No they've taken it off the air doesn't work anymore Jesus. Well. Just give us a rundown I have the transcript, maybe it'll play. Well it was interesting there was it turned out to be true I think the New York Post reported blah blah blah blah blah. Jeff Immelt, chairman of GE which used to own NBCUniversal called in some the senior staff clearly was worried according to the people oh man it just refreshed according to people that this is an abortion this whole page is like 70s term yeah this whole page is like freaking out

1:15:17 There was a meeting about the possibility that the NBC stations were becoming too anti-administration. This is when the Obama administration first took over and some of the spending plans came out and the markets reacted. And so then O'Reilly says so Imelda himself introduced on the editorial position of CNBC because he felt that you weren't giving Obama a fair shake and Gasparino says yeah, they're gonna deny it officially, but the way it worked is people got called into the meeting. They were basically read the riot act the question of whether they were being fair to the president was brought up and

1:15:55 So Immelt literally brought in all of the network execs and said, you're not being fair to the president, you've got to tone it down, and you've got to stop being anti-administration. Really? Wow, well you know it's not as though we didn't deconstruct this. I know but it's and I wish I could play the clip for you. It's always good to get confirmation in one way or another and I believe it probably is true because CNBC was a little harsh on occasion and they you know CNBC has a kind of a problem because they were a lot of them people blame them for the dot-com collapse

1:16:35 And along with magazines like Forbes, nobody picked up on anything. They were just boosters. And there was a lot of stories going around in the late 90s about how if you went on CNBC as a guest and you had any kind of bearish negative information that you are promoting that you would never get invited back. She would never get invited back, right. You had to be a bull. Yeah, you're off. You know, and just pump, pump, pump. And so the whole thing was just like, you know, crazy. And so when the thing collapsed, they had, you know, they were partly responsible in some, you know, in some psychic way anyway. But anyway, the, so

1:17:12 So more recently they have been very aware of this reputation of theirs and so they've been doing a lot of negative stuff even though when they had a real opportunity for example when the guys The guys with this book came out, because I saw this show, and were slamming Lehman Brothers saying that these guys are going to go broke and everyone is in the company. And the CNBC folks, it was the one of their morning shows, said, oh, this is bogus. You have no proof. And they basically rousted the guys and wouldn't let them really explain their position. They let them explain it, but they poo-pooed it. And so, of course, when Lehman did collapse, it was like, wow. CNBC's back on track being just boosters.

1:17:51 And so they have this reputation. So they tried to, I think when they did, I think they did attempt to go that way. And so then they got called on the carpet. That's not good. Well, it's how it and anyway, I mean what is you think that MSNBC stand as a standalone subnetwork would more than make up for anyone who had anything negative to say so they essentially are saying that all of NBC and of course we deconstructed a lot of stuff from like there were some of their dramas in fact that were just boosting the president. It's just a shill for the White House. Well, I think there's the whole thing is it's all a setup and all of all he is a big contractor for the government exactly but then when you look at how the financial news and just the news networks and which basically deal a lot with With Wall Street and and the whole game and and you look at what's really going on Have you and Horowitz talked about these weird robot? Trades have you seen have you seen these charts?

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

High-Frequency Trading and Market Manipulation

The discussion turns to "crop circles" in market data caused by high-frequency trading algorithms. These programs execute thousands of bids per second to manipulate stock prices. The hosts question the legality of these practices under SEC rules and advise listeners to stay out of the traditional stock market.

flash trading· high-frequency trading· sec· algorithms· market manipulation

1:18:50 We talk about this quite a bit actually. Yeah, what they're calling the crop circles in the market data? I haven't seen the crop circle charts, no. Oh. Well, so what's happening is this is a part of the high frequency, the flash trading. They come in and within a second, they'll do like a thousand bids or asks. And that of course, over time, and time in this case is a couple of seconds to maybe a minute, it boosts the price of a stock. Yeah, so here I'll just send you the link so you can take a look at it. So the people are now is not news But what's interesting is to see the charts where you can actually see the different algorithms that are being used and it's happening in such high First of all, it's illegal you can you're not allowed to go into an open market and trade just to boot and and and do bids just to boost the stock you have to actually do that with the intent to buy or sell and

1:19:46 But when you see how these high frequency flash programs are working... Well, who says it's illegal? Where's it illegal? Oh, that's a law. That's the... What law? The SEC law. No. I'm quite sure it is. You find it and cite it. Okay. I mean, I'm not an expert, so I could be wrong. You don't have to be an expert to find and cite something. I'll look for it. These guys have been doing this ever since they went to computerized trading. But have you seen it? I mean, you can't, it couldn't possibly be a law because for example, the computerized trading system, whether there's, you know, the flash trading is new.

1:20:26 But the computerized trading system, which kind of benefits the market in a lot of different ways by balancing things, if the market starts to collapse and the computers kick in and start selling, it's the equivalent. I mean, you're not buying and selling for any other purpose than to get the hell out of there. No, I don't think you're gonna find it. You're not gonna find documentation for this the flash trading is legal No, I'm not saying the flash trading is illegal. Well, you know what? I really don't know I have to say I don't know I read I was pretty sure I read it somewhere that it was illegal

1:21:02 But what just really hit me is when you, and it's in the show notes obviously, when you see the chart, it's amazing. It's just all these little blips all in a row within one second, a thousand different offers. It's a market manipulation technique. Right. Okay, so you're not allowed to manipulate markets, are you? No, I didn't say that. Okay, alright. But it's what it ends up being used for, but to prove it's another thing. Yeah, I know. I don't know stay out of the market that's yeah buy gold Go get some of those Glenn Beck gold coins. That's what you need to do. Take a bath go get some of those That's really good. You got some clips John. I'd love to hear some yes. You got here I got it. There's an interesting one. I think it's a series of four clips that I got from the Democracy Now show which is

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

National Security Letters and FBI Gag Orders

Nicholas Merrill, a former ISP owner, speaks out after a six-year gag order regarding a National Security Letter (NSL) he received from the FBI. The hosts discuss how the Patriot Act allowed the issuance of nearly 200,000 such letters, which bypass court orders and prevent recipients from speaking to lawyers or partners.

national security letter· fbi· aclu· nicholas merrill· patriot act

1:21:59 just a horrible, I mean it's a very difficult show to get through, but they did find, there's a thing called the National Security Letter, which became scandalous during the Bush administration, but just playing this, this is like, you know, we have, you'd think that in this country we'd have respect for the First Amendment, our right to free speech, and this brings up a couple of topics. The National Security letter, which was, the FBI handed out nearly 200,000 of these things to people. You don't know who they are because nobody could talk about them. They were essentially giving you a letter from the FBI, which essentially was a non-disclosure thing that you were forced to agree to.

1:22:38 by virtue of the fact that they told you to a secret site the secret police come in and knocking on the door so what what what was the content of this letter well here play the national security letter the first amy goodman clip of the group and you'll get a clue about it We begin today's show with a guest here in New York who has been under an FBI gag order for the past six years. In early 2004, an FBI agent visited Nicholas Merrill and handed him a national security letter that ordered him to hand over detailed private records about some of his customers. At the time, Merrill was running an internet service provider in New York called Kalex.

1:23:14 Under the USA Patriot Act, the FBI issued more than 192,000 national security letters between 2003 and 2006 in order to obtain sensitive information without a court order. Under the law, recipients of the letters are barred from telling anyone about their encounter with the FBI. While Nicholas Merrill was not the first American to be gagged after receiving a national security letter in NSL, he was the first to challenge the FBI's secret tactics. After receiving the national security letter, Merrill went to the American Civil Liberties Union, which then filed the first lawsuit challenging the national security letter statute. So he got his letter, he's now, just now in 2010 can talk about it and he still can't fully talk about it for some reason and he's so fearful. This is by the way the direction our country is headed.

1:24:06 uh... and when you listen to this guy try to explain himself in the next clip i think that i think is a clip in their cold uh... still scared or something like that just listen to a person who received one of these letters in the way house kid is she's become in how on american this whole thing is in the fact that the f b i tried to pull this to other tried to they managed to do it pull off becoming a secret police the gestapo as it were uh... in in this is what essentially is it is that we don't want to do a lot of investigating your you know i was in making more than two hundred thousand dollars a year at least a minimum average of pay about a twenty five thousand your federal employee here i don't really want to do any work because you know we can really lose your job but you wanted to at least get some results so you put out a dragging it you try to drag net things you'd now there is a jail with the first amendment how with everything i was a

1:24:55 bill of rights the constitution everything in between me this evening go get some convictions you doing it the easy way by did by provide by creating this national security letter and and just doing a witch hunt but listen to this character in the clip to mcmerroll joins us here in new york we welcome you to democracy now thank you it's good to have you with us i bet it's good to be able to speak it is kind of a relief yeah it's also a bit surreal because i'm not exactly used to it yet and almost every time i say something about it i kind of have this uh... knee-jerk reaction like i'm not supposed to talk about that and you know that got so ingrained into me that that uh... it's still a bit strange wait a minute which administration handed out these national security orders? Bush! okay right you know great old bush and then gonzalez

1:25:45 and but now he can speak about it we can now because he won this court case but in fact he can't fully speak about it he mentions the fact that the court case was an agreement that still macy can't talk about you know these the specific uh... operation that they were looking at uh... which is some ngo apparently and uh... you know i think he can show the letter this all redacted is separate signature in the couple of offbeat words showing here and there for no apparent reason And so he's still kind of under a gag order, which brings me to the point about what is our freedom of speech rights if you can't talk. You know, this this has been bothering me for a while before we get to the next two clips. And I talk about this every so often. I bring it up on this show and I'm going to keep bringing it up because nobody seems to be paying any attention to the fact that we have in this country something called a nondisclosure agreement, which essentially abrogates your right to free speech.

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Constitutional Rights and Private Contracts

The hosts debate the legality of non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) and how they seemingly abrogate First Amendment rights. They use a provocative analogy about "signing up slaves" to question the limits of private contracts that require individuals to sign away constitutional protections.

constitution· free speech· non-disclosure agreement· private contract· slavery

1:26:38 You sign a non-disclosure agreement, you can't talk about something under penalty of whatever. You can get sued, all these bad things can happen, but we have in the Constitution, we have a right to free speech, so how can this be? So how can I sign away my constitutional rights? I'd like to know. Do you have an answer to that question? Well, I think part of your Constitution, or part of the constitutional rights that you have in the United States is to enter into a private contract among individuals. That's great, that's exactly the answer I was looking for. So why can I enter into a private contract as a slave, an indentured servant? Why don't I sign, why don't we go to Africa and have a bunch of Africans sign a document, a private contract, that they are now full-time slaves? I think that's a good idea. Let's go get us some. So that's the question I have to ask you. Now you just answered the question, the first question, how do you answer the second one? Let's go do it.

1:27:29 I could use a couple. You know, to upload the show and do stuff like that. It sounds to me as though if you give the first answer which you gave which is the answer I keep hearing... By the way, I'm only giving you the answer because I know that's the answer. That is the answer. That's the answer I keep hearing. Then if that's the case, why can't I go sign up some slaves? Well John, I think we should test this. Who in the chat room wants to be a slave? We'll sign you up. If anyone wants to be a slave, you can come here. I'm going to put one of those red rubber balls in your mouth. Not that kind of slave. I'm sorry. I'm talking about a slave to do some work in the backyard. The rake the leaves. Shut up, slave. Rake my leaves. Well, I think you can, John. I think this is a constitutional point and I think you should go out and you should fight it. You should go hit people in the mouth and get you some slaves.

1:28:22 So anyway, and then so this story continues, just go to clip three. I love you, man. Why don't you tell us your story? What day was it? When did it happen? And what happened? I don't know if I'm allowed to, for some reason, say the exact day. It was in February 2004. An FBI agent visited my office. He brought me a letter. He, you know, he badged himself. He identified himself as an agent. He gave me this letter. I opened it. I read it in his presence and

1:28:57 A few things kind of leaped out at me upon first reading the letter, one of which was that I was commanded to never tell anyone, anyone about the letter. Not that I'd received it, not that there had been a request for information. It was a very broad and there were no exceptions in there. There were no instructions on how to appeal. There was nothing about contacting a lawyer. So I said to the agent at that time, it says here I can't tell anyone about this. Does that include my attorneys? Does that include my business partners?

1:29:34 The man said something to the effect of I've just been given the job of bringing you this letter. I don't know I'm not a decision maker and That was basically the end of our conversation then he left At that point I was left with this letter Which asked for what I believe to be constitutionally protected information belonging to one of my clients Cool, this is great Yeah, this is what you do when you're lazy. Instead of actually doing any real footwork, you know, you come out with this letter that says you can't even say you have the letter.

1:30:13 And then you scare the crap out of somebody, because everybody knows habeas corpus is out the door, another constitutional right. And they could probably pick you up and throw you in the Gitmo for all you know, and who's going to do anything about it? Nobody. Nothing. Nothing. So let's finish it off with the, I think, clip four and we'll be done with this topic. The two FBI agents came to our office with a letter. They had called a week before and told us that they were going to serve us with a security letter. The thing that leaped to my attention about our letter was that it concerned an incident back in February, five months prior to this. It was dated in May, two months prior to July, and it was still addressed to

1:30:58 the wrong person at our office, although they had called to ask who it should be addressed to. So I could conclude that it was not a case of hot pursuit and that if I dug my heels in we weren't jeopardizing any of our fellow citizens. What did you say to the FBI agents who came to your door? Ah, this is great. That's awesome. Well, while that was playing I've been looking around but I cannot find a copy of what would be a national security letter of course. so that was not available to get uh... wow so anyway so this has been going on and i'd far as i know this never been to these letters are still in effect and nobody's done anything about the obama administration shows and anything about they like it never looked at me is there who doesn't like this kind of secret police action i think we should have a i think we should have a no agenda nsl

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

UK Anti-Terrorist Hotline Advertising Campaign

The UK's advertising watchdog has pulled a series of radio ads for the Anti-Terrorist Hotline that encouraged citizens to report neighbors for using cash or keeping curtains closed. The hosts deconstruct the ads, noting the use of subliminal editing and the phrase "terrorist house" to instill fear and suspicion.

united kingdom· anti-terrorist hotline· propaganda· subliminal· advertising

1:31:44 We send you the letter and the first rule is you can't tell anyone about what's in the letter. Fight club. Yeah, exactly. And if you do, then you're our slave. Yeah, there you go. John, I'm with you my friend. I think constitutionally you have a great point and I'd like me a slave. Would you like you a slave? No, I'd need a bunch of them. You haven't seen my backyard. It's a mess. There's work to be done. Yeah, well this of course is all just kind of a wind-up to where we're really headed in Gitmo Nation and this all came kind of came out this past week in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom where I guess so many people complained that the advertising watchdog what is that the

1:32:28 Ad Council? Yeah, the British version of the Ad Council says, hey you know these ads that we have are running on the radio, we really can't run these anymore, people are on to us. And I want you to listen, this is the campaign, if you suspect it, report it. Oh yeah, this. This is great. The following message is brought to you by Talk Sport and the Anti-Terrorist Hotline. The man at the end of the street doesn't talk to his neighbours much, because he likes to keep himself to himself. He pays with cash because he doesn't have a bank card. And he keeps his curtains closed because his house is on a bus route. This may mean nothing, but together it could all add up to you having suspicions.

1:33:14 We all have a role to play in combating terrorism. If you see anything suspicious, call the confidential anti-terrorist hotline on 0800... So there's a couple of these. I want to play the different versions because there's some really subtle stuff that just blew me away when you listen to the other versions of this because of course all these stations got paid to do this. I mean this is a paid advertisement. Yeah it's not a public service. No it's not a PSA at all. The following message is brought to you by TalkSport and the anti-terrorist... I'm sorry, it's the wrong one. Is that, is the announcer that little geico lizard? It sounds like it, doesn't he? Here's the national campaign. ...but a terrorist house in our street has blacked out windows. See, I love this. You have to listen to it again. She says a terrorist house in our street. Now a terrorist house is a particular type of house in a typical London street.

1:34:07 But using the word terrorist house is perfect for this because what does it sound like? Sounds like terrorists, right? So it's very subliminal but really really good. I like it now listen to this thing But a terrorist house in our street has blacks out windows Which is odd thing is the rest of his documents are different names on them But it just seemed far too much fertilizer for such a small plot of land. Yes. I love I love that! It was far too much fertilizer for such a small plot of land! Too much fertilizer! I mean it's only- Look, he may have been on the level, but why did he want to buy protective equipment? He was asking loads of security questions. And then I discovered, he didn't even work in that department. On their own they may mean nothing, but together it all adds up. A terrorist plot may have been discovered. We all have a role to play- Did you hear that?

1:34:57 Did you hear how they edit those words together? Yeah. That's great. May have been discovered. We all have a role to play in combating terrorism. If you see anything suspicious, call the confidential anti-terrorist hotline on 0800-789- I love how they do that. So they edit together what these people are saying and it sounds like a terrorist plot has been discovered. Yeah. I mean, it's total subliminal mind control. It's great. Yeah. Give me some slaves. This is awesome. So anyway, so they've stopped that which of course means that now everyone's playing and everyone's listening to them right and deconstructing them Yeah, well, no one's deconstructing this

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Child Abuse Definitions and Church ID Hymns

New regulations in the UK classify smoking in a car with children as child abuse, which the hosts view as a pretext for state intervention. They also discuss a "My ID" hymn being taught in some American churches, which they interpret as psychological conditioning for future government tracking systems.

smoking· child abuse· mkultra· my id· religious infiltration

1:35:36 No one's deconstructing it. Oh, they have to be they're not that stupid. Who this there's no one in Britain deconstruct with it We're people who would deconstruct this stuff. That's like yeah. No, that's a yeah I use cash by the way. No cash. No, I got lots of fertilizer. I need poop for the yard I'm surprised he didn't say God his hair isn't that blonde. He doesn't need all of that bleaching product hmm hmm Also in Gitmo Nation East, now some people may agree with this, but smoking in your car with your children is now pretty much officially child abuse. And you know what that means? They can take your kid away. Yeah, they're looking for any excuse to take your kid away so they can brainwash him in a state-run orphanage. Yeah, oh yeah. They need your kids for the MKUltra program. Got an email from Reverend Eric.

1:36:36 Who's in, I think he's in Minneapolis, St. Paul. And he went to a different church and the congregation, as we'll read this here, the service was the conclusion of the Vacation Bible School at the congregation and they had a theme hymn called My ID. And he's freaking out about this. Now this is a reverend. and he sent me some of the, I'm trying to get a copy of this actual hymn, but he wrote down... We need to get a recording of it. Yeah, no kidding. It's called My ID. I don't know the tune, but I do have some of the words. God the Father made me in a perfect way.

1:37:26 He stepped back and he said it was good. Now he gives me loving each and every day. Everything he promised he would. Here comes the refrain. My ID. Through faith in Jesus Christ I'm a child of God. My ID. Baptized by water and blessed by the word. Jesus is my Savior, dying on the cross. He suffered and bled for me. Now he's my friend. He's not like a boss. I serve the world because he set me free. My ID. My ID. And it goes on a little bit longer. But he is freaking out about this. And I've heard that there's been a lot of infiltration into parishes and money actually flowing in that when it's time for the flock to get your ID, get your mark of the devil, that this is the hymn you'll be singing. You'll be happy to get your little number tattooed on your wrist or whatever.

1:38:24 But this is uh kind of scary. It's kind of creepy. Very creepy. Very very creepy. Anyway so uh Reverend Eric's gonna try and get it for me. He says the pastors of the church are out of town till Friday. They're on a float trip with the junior high kids. Talking of creepy. And the music director is no longer there. The song was new to me. So he went on to the next place. I guess so. Yeah you go from place to place introducing these things. So anyway, he's gonna try and get me a recording and or you know the full lyrics etc and and the and the tune But I was just like wow that's that's pretty out there

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Allstate Mayhem Campaign and Extortion Themes

The hosts analyze Allstate's "Mayhem" advertising campaign, specifically an ad featuring a teenage girl's emotional compromise. They argue the ads use "mobster" logic, implying that customers need protection from the very chaos the ads depict, effectively operating as a protection racket.

allstate· mayhem· advertising· extortion· insurance

1:39:08 so i have a uh... by just a follow-up uh... ad that we we did a number of couple weeks ago we did it the allstate ad where the guys the rich guys driving along any slams on his brakes to the stock market fell in the case rams into a day the rich guys a douche bag is a douche bag what well they they're they're continuing this douche bag theme with the only the guys now he's playing a a good girl who broke up with a boyfriend smashes in somebody's car and i've realized that that allstate and somebody should take them to task for this has basically, they're basically playing the protection game. It's like a mob ad. If the mob could do, you know, if you didn't, if you didn't want to brick through your window, you might want to get, take out some insurance. Oh, like when the mob comes to your store and says, you know, you could, you could get robbed here unless you like take out some insurance with us. Yeah. Now listen to this Allstate ad and tell me it's not like obviously some ex mobster is writing the copy.

1:40:08 I'm a teenage girl. My BFF Becky texted and said she's kissed Johnny. Well, that's a problem, because I like Johnny. Now, I'm emotionally compromised. Whoopsies. I'm all OMG. Becky's not even hot. And if you've got cut-rate insurance, you could be paying for this yourself. So get Allstate. You can save money and be better protected from mayhem like me. Dollar for dollar, nobody protects you from mayhem like Allstate. Wow. Okay. This is very confusing to me. So he's pretending to be Becky. Yeah.

1:40:46 And then she gets a message she get Becky gets the message that she did boyfriend broke up to go out No, he's the other girl. Whatever the case is his boyfriend broke up to go out with Becky He slams into a car because she's emotionally compromised because of this terrible situation Then he drives off the hit-and-run and this could happen to you You can have a hit-and-run because of something bad, you know, he's got nothing to do with anybody could be very bad This sounds exactly like an extortion ad he even talks like a mobster. Yeah realize it the first time. Yeah, well that's the beauty of doing audio only. When you don't have the video to distract you then it really all comes together. Wow, amazing. Gitmo Nation is an awesome place to be. It's great. So one of our producers sent me an ad in a local newspaper. This has to do with the demon drink and

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Checkpoint Strikeforce and DUI Enforcement Scams

"Checkpoint Strikeforce" is identified as a government-funded initiative that uses aggressive sobriety checkpoints to extract fines from the public. The hosts criticize the $3,400 cost associated with these arrests and argue that the checkpoints are an unconstitutional inconvenience designed for revenue rather than safety.

checkpoint strikeforce· dui· sobriety checkpoints· revenue· fourth amendment

1:41:43 It's uh, this newspaper is geared towards the 21 to 35 year old crowd and I think this newspaper might even be distributed in bars. The ad actually has a guy holding up a sign that says, you got $3,400? Well then don't drink and drive. So they now actually have the price of the scram bracelet, the interlock device, and what it will cost you if you're caught. $3,400. Yeah, it's amazing. Now, I of course do not advocate drinking and driving, but the scam they've got behind this thing, it becomes so blatant when they've got a guy holding this.

1:42:23 Literally holding the sign it's gonna cost you $3,400 and we know what it's for. That's why people won't be able to you know you keep it you introduce this the price and the whole thing so then everyone's used to it and so no one can be outraged by it. Yeah. It's just a slow process of introducing people to something and there's no obviously there's no outcry because it's like child porn and all these other things. Oh you can't, what are you advocating people driving around drunk? Yeah you can't talk about it. So you can't talk about it. Because you're crazy, you're a crackpot. and then you keep introducing this other piece of information is thirty four hundred bucks and so now it's all a year later this is not a federal fine this is just this is the commercial industry just that the overhead it's over its commercial industry and so when in the year later if you say well gee this is a ripoff well you've been going on forever and you're now you're saying it's a ripoff yeah you're you're at your living under a rock

1:43:17 You can't win with these guys. The system is too powerful. We can't stop it. It's taking away our right to free speech. So underneath... I'm just gonna... You know, it's giving government workers twice as much money as you are. You are so pissed off about that. So underneath the ad is a little logo, Checkpoint Strikeforce. With a handprint in red. Checkpoint Strikeforce. I like the red handprint. It's a sign of some communist revolutionaries in South America. Well go to checkpointstrikeforce.net while I play the commercial which is on their homepage. Checkpoint Strikeforce.

1:43:59 is virtually limitless. Unless you're drinking and riding. There's no way to hide it. If you ride impaired, you will get busted. DC police are on the hunt for drunk riders and speeders right now. It's zero tolerance in DC, so stay within the legal limits. Checkpoint Strike Force is back with a special interest in motorcyclists. Drunk riding over the limit under arrest. A message from the District Department of Transportation and the Metropolitan Police Department. You know, I'm all for the message, but wow, you really put it in my face like CSI Miami. And then they got some guy here, some tough looking black guy with big jaw, with a big jaw, they have that red hand. Checkpoint strike force. Checkpoint strike force. It's some opera, obviously some scam, it's some organization that's getting government money.

1:44:49 uh... intensive law enforcement mobilization to get impaired drivers off our roads stopping over five hundred thousand that drivers last year and sobriety checkpoints in a rigid inconveniencing the public let's put it make it less call for what it is uh... assuming everybody's a drunk using checkpoints in patrols women who were drunk driving is most likely to occur outside of bars and i just hang out why don't you just let me give it a little advice to at least you but that's skipped skip the middleman Why don't you just take the entire police force, and instead of preventing robberies and murders and all these other things that go on, just hang out. You know the cab lines? You go to a fancy disco, and there's a bunch of cabs waiting to pick you up at about two in the morning to take you home in New York City. That's very common. Just have a whole lineup of cop cars, kind of similar to the taxis.

1:45:37 and then as people stagger out of the bar or walk out of the bar or whatever, follow them with the car, you know, just go in the same thing. And if they get into a car or if they look for their keys or anything, just bust them on the spot. Yeah, bust them right there. Yeah, well, that's already happening. Yeah. Well, they should institutionalize it. Put the police right in front of every bar in town. I think this is actually happening, John. This is not a dream you're having. This is actually taking place. And if you have the keys in your hand, you get arrested. If you have a thought crime. Thought crime. Even if you were to go up to your car and sleep in it. Kevin Girivin, you haven't gone an inch. So checkpointstrikeforce.net is registered. It's another way to get, extract money from the public. You know, that is trying to, you know, just live. Oh, they've got a link here. Myths.

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Smartronics and Recovery.gov Contract Connections

Smartronics, the company that built the $18 million Recovery.gov website, has acquired Kogan Systems. The hosts point out that White House officials Vivek Kundra and Anish Chopra previously worked at Kogan Systems, suggesting a lack of transparency in federal tech contracting.

smartronics· recovery.gov· vivek kundra· anish chopra· government contracts

1:46:28 You know, I mean, I think I'm all for really the drinking and driving is really really bad It's it's a very bad practice But there are other ways to educate the public about this and this is just checkpoint crap is just pissing me off Well and calling it a checkpoint and and they're they're rolling checkpoints, by the way So they'll set up and then they half an hour later They'll roll up to another part of town and they just keep checking you checkpoint checkpoint checkpoint strike force to be checkpoint. I slave. Yeah, that's part of the neoprohibitionist movement too. Wasn't it, wasn't Smartronics the company that built the 18 million dollar website? Yeah, I think it might have been. Not sure, I'm not sure. I don't, I can't say for sure. I think it was. 18 million dollar, you know, link. Yeah, I think, I think they built recovery.gov. It's possible. Yeah. I'd have to go back and listen to the show. No, no, no, we can, let's just check that now. Hold on, Smartronics,

1:47:33 Recovery.gov I'm pretty sure those are the guys Yes, okay. Yeah smartronics built the 18 million dollar recovery.gov website. They have just acquired Kogan Systems LLC and that means to me that is the company that Vivek Kundra and And what's the other guy? Anish Chopra. Yes that they both worked at before coming into the administration Big shocker Yeah, I just thought that was kind of an interesting little find they literally acquired the company that these guys came from yeah, no shame Absolutely, no shame. No, they why bother nobody cares. Nobody calls them on anything. Everybody thinks these two guys are heroes. I

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

NDM-1 Superbug and Medical Tourism

A new antibiotic-resistant gene mutation called NDM-1 has been identified in patients returning to the UK from India. The hosts suggest the timing of this "superbug" news is designed to discourage medical tourism to India, which offers cheaper healthcare alternatives to the failing British National Health Service.

ndm-1· superbug· medical tourism· india· antibiotics

1:48:26 Yeah, you know because they use skip logic because they use skip logic and they don't speak in binary and cobalt and We got to play that clip more often we do have to play that more often Okay, so there's a new super bug in the United Kingdom in the United Kingdom which of course will require drugs and Then there's lots of stories about this and it's very easy to deconstruct if you want to learn how to deconstruct a story you just read through it so the The main story here a new superbug could spread around the world after reaching Britain from India By the way, it can't go from India in any direction It can only go from Britain to the rest of the world but in part because of and here comes medical tourism Scientists say there are almost no drugs to treat it. The science is in!

1:49:19 It's MDM-1, which is a great name, MDM-1, makes bacteria highly resistant to almost all antibiotics, including the most powerful class called carbanems. No, I'm sorry, carbapenems. Experts say there are no new drugs on the horizon to tackle it. So of course what this is about is is about the medical tourism because the the system in the United Kingdom their National Health Service is broken it sucks and People are going away to go and get health care in better places where you actually get served You know there are people on waiting lists for you know for important stuff. You know six months usually to a YouTube report You got a YouTube report on this yeah? Okay

1:50:11 Let's have a little listen then. Oh, NDM1 superbug. Let's hope we don't have a pre-roll. Could a newly identified gene mutation be responsible for a new class of drug-resistant superbugs? British researchers say it's possible. According to ABC News, researchers say a group of plastic surgery patients who traveled from India or Pakistan back to Great Britain returned carrying bacteria which has an antibiotic resistant superbug gene known as NDM1. NDM1 stands for New Delhi Metallo-Beta-Lactamase. AFP quotes researchers as saying that a new class of superbugs could spread worldwide. The New York Times quotes experts calling the gene mutation worrying and ominous.

1:50:53 According to AFP, researchers first discovered the NDM1 gene in 2009 in a Swedish patient who was hospitalized in India. Scientists are said to be especially concerned because NDM1 bacteria are resistant to even the strongest broad-spectrum antibiotics reserved to treat multi-drug-resistant bugs. In an article from the journal The Lancet, researchers in Britain noted that NDM-1 can easily be transferred into common bacteria such as E. coli. This is great. I think just in time now that the World Health Organization has declared the swine flu pandemic over, I think it's perfect timing to bring up a new superbug. Why do they call it a bug? It's a bacteria. It's not an insect. It'll soon be in your diet. I don't know. I don't either. We'll figure it out.

1:51:45 Anyway, obviously it's a something. And of course they've been trying to stop the outflow of patients to India because the hospitals there have the same Indian doctors they have in England but they're cheap, you know, one-tenth the price. And this will keep, this will put the clamp on it. The Indians are going to have to get a scramble to stop this. Well, we'll see. This will unfold. This will unfold into something very obvious, I'm sure. Yeah, we're okay. We caught it early. And we will stay on it because it's obviously going to be a major thing along with tuberculosis resistant to drug resistant tuberculosis and the next iteration of the swine flu. And the whooping cough don't forget the whooping cough. Now we got a vaccine coming for that and the British... There's always been a vaccine for whooping cough. Yeah but now it's gonna be something we need to have. Your kids won't be able to go to school without it just another needle that's what it's about.

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Statins in Fast Food and Pharmaceutical Pushing

The British Heart Foundation has suggested that fast-food outlets should provide statins alongside hamburgers to neutralize cardiovascular risks. The hosts characterize this as "Brave New World" pharmaceutical pushing, where pills are used to enable unhealthy lifestyles rather than addressing root causes.

statins· british heart foundation· mcdonald's· cholesterol· big pharma

1:52:39 It's a drug company, they've got nothing left to sell. They've become so desperate now they've infiltrated the British Heart Foundation who now say fast food outlets such as McDonald's and Burger King should consider handing out statins with their hamburger. It would only cost 5p a customer, similar to a sachet of ketchup. A statin of course is to fight cholesterol. But I think it's kind of for people who have real cholesterol issues and I don't think it should just be a pill that you get with your hamburger. But this is what the... I like the idea. It's pretty good. A state in the day, and this is just selling drugs, they're pushing drugs. A state in the day can neutralize the risk of cardiovascular disease linked to a daily intake of a 7-ounce cheeseburger and a small milkshake. How about getting people off the cheeseburgers? No, no, no, no, no. We don't want to ruin the industry.

1:53:37 No, we just need to amp it up. This is great. This is so you need twice as many burgers This is actually what they're saying. They're saying you go ahead eat your burger and just take the pill. It'll be fine It's gonna be great. This is brave new world stuff is what this is. This is great. It's just awesome Very very smart. It's a sick world. Well, then let's do this. No, no, no, no, no Before we do that, because I know where you're headed, I want to play at least one more clip. Sure. Just to bring up, just kind of a funny thing, because actually it's a clip in a clip, but play this Obama sports clip.

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Presidential Sports Activity and Illinois Tax Holidays

A report highlights that President Obama has participated in 45 sporting events since taking office, far outnumbering his news conferences. Additionally, an Illinois sales tax holiday is criticized for exempting luxury items like Armani ties and lace lingerie while still taxing essential school supplies like geography books.

barack obama· sports· illinois· sales tax· school supplies

1:54:19 First and then I want you to follow up with the book back-to-school tax-free clip. Okay with some commentary in between Yeah, okay President Obama makes no secret of his affinity for all things sports The Washington Post Dana Milbank writes about what he calls the jock-in-chief Setting a new standard for presidential game playing after a bachelor birthday weekend that included a round of golf with friends hosting what Milbank calls a fantasy camp with pro basketball legends and welcoming the reigning Super Bowl champions to the White House Monday. Unofficial presidential chronicler Mark Knoller's numbers reveal President Obama has left the White House on 16 occasions to play basketball in addition to countless times on his home court. He's played 44 rounds of golf, gone fishing and played tennis. Total sporting related events at the White House, 45. That's about six times the number of news conferences he's held since taking office.

1:55:18 uh... and notice you didn't go fishing with ted stevens that meanwhile course in illinois where i have no bomb it comes from there is this uh... the and there's a bunch of this is the weird things like you know how many i don't know they seem to be taking a lot of vacations and not paying much attention to the job creation is set in the government and i've been back to school tax it is i just i was funny and i don't know what you know just was screwy And finally, a 10-day sales tax holiday in Illinois saves shoppers 5 percent off the final cost of qualifying school items. That's the key element.

1:55:54 However, you might be surprised to hear what is and is not covered. For example, a thermos does not qualify, but an Armani tie does. Same for a coach belt. That does count. But a geography book? Nope, it does not. A computer does not qualify either. However, a piece of lace lingerie will save you 5% sales tax. not sure exactly what dress code requirements that particular back to school item meets. for that great educational system. Because that's going to get us out of the economic depression, you know. That's what the president told us. Come back from your vacation, you slaves, and vote for this. Alright, so anyway, I just lose a little aside. I like that. I like that. Pedo Bear struck again, John. Oh? Yes, the Pedo Bear strikes again. Two assistant bishops, assistants to the bishops in Ireland,

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Catholic Church Resignations and Tyco Turbo Train

Pope Benedict XVI refused the resignations of two Irish bishops involved in covering up clerical abuse. The segment transitions into a nostalgic look at a Tyco "Super Turbo Train" commercial, contrasting the toy's speed with the slow pace of real-world rail development.

pedo-bear· catholic church· pope benedict xvi· tyco· turbo train

1:57:02 I guess they're called assistant bishops. I'm sure there's some other term for them. They've got some kind of thing, monsignor or whatever. Ermin Walsh and Ray Field wanted to resign because it's very clear that the church in Dublin has been covering up pedo-bear activities and the Pope refused their resignation. No, you can't resign. You have to stay at your post. You cannot go. Not allowed to resign. Well, you know, maybe they don't want him to quit. They want them to stay, they want the other guys to resign. Maybe that's a good thing. So I think we should go into the... I know what you want. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. Yeah, one of the biggest categories. Let me start it off, John, with a fine commercial for a wonderful children's toy before we get into all the other news about... The world's fastest train is taking off.

1:58:07 Super Turbo Train with Daredevil Jump travels in scale beyond the speed of sound. So fast, it races up a wall and even upside down. So fast, it makes the incredible Daredevil Jump and keeps on going. There's nothing else like it. Take control of the fastest and only airborne train, the new Super Turbo Train with Daredevil Jump from Tyco. Kids get it for Christmas with the super daredevil air jump from Tycho It's awesome. Of course that matches nicely in a new story that just broke Or actually the eighth, but did you get this? I don't know if you got your how many planes bad story. Is this the tiny town?

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Delta Air Lines and TSA Security Theater

A passenger was removed from a Delta flight after reporting the smell of alcohol on a pilot's breath. The hosts link these negative airline stories to PR efforts by Hill & Knowlton to promote high-speed rail. They also mock TSA bans on items like snow globes as "security theater."

delta air lines· tsa· snow globes· high-speed rail· hill & knowlton

1:58:53 No, this is the passenger booted for trying to do good? Oh yeah, of course. So this woman smelled alcohol, she thought, on the pilot's breath? This is Delta, by the way, which is the world's worst airline. So a reminder for those of you who are new to the program that Hill & Knowlton, one of the premier PR agencies in the world, is promoting the US high- Here they come. the US High-Speed Rail Association and they're doing it mainly by sneaking in reports into your regularly scheduled news into the regular Ministry of Truth items about how bad air travel is. And so yeah, this woman who was on Delta, she whispered, what's her name, Cynthia Angel

1:59:42 Who's a good Samaritan? She quietly whispered to the head stewardess, you know, I don't know this is really weird, but I think I smelled alcohol on the pilot's breath. And so they took her off. She, you know, she spoke to some Delta officials. They put her back on then 20 minutes later, I guess they just kept the plane there. They said, all right, slave, get off. Get off this plane. You're not flying with us. You're not on the friendly skies. Get off. And they just took it right off. Of course, implying that Delta pilots fly drunk. That's what it says to me. That's kind of what the implication is there. That's kind of what the end game story is. If you're trying to get a story out there that sounds like... That's what you want. They could be plastered, but you're going to be the one throwing off. It's an old trick. Salon had a very nice little thing they snuck in there. Headline, Airport Security Run Amok.

2:00:37 At the checkpoint, checkpoint, checkpoint! There's a big sign picture of it here. Please be advised, snow globes are not allowed through the security checkpoint. And there's actually a little picture of a snow globe with a red circle around it and a stripe. Your safety is our priority. Just so you know, snow globes now a no-no. Yeah, well you can always pack them. Did you ever get your check luggage, even though I rarely do it, but you ever check and then you get the back and there's a note inside? Yeah, a little TSA note. Homeland Security note, actually. Yeah, I've gotten that. All the time. Those guys be rummaging through my underwear, touching themselves.

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Steven Slater JetBlue Incident and Media Glorification

Flight attendant Steven Slater became a media sensation after deploying an emergency slide to quit his job. The hosts argue the story was over-produced by PR firms to highlight the misery of air travel. They specifically note the "beer meme" in the coverage, suggesting it was a product placement for Dos Equis or Heineken.

steven slater· jetblue· michael musto· folk hero· beer meme

2:01:22 Before we get to the the main clip of course there was that and this is kind of funny this Steven Slater flight attendant on a jet blue flight who got so pissed off that he Ejected out the emergency slide and the way this was reported on ABC is so filled with memes John It's just crazy the guy now apparently according to ABC is a hero because he quit his job which Which is like, the whole country is, we're in 20-25% unemployment and this guy apparently according to ABC News and Michael Musto of the Village Voice is a hero because he did what everybody wants to do is quit your job in a big fanfare, grab a couple beers and eject out the shoot. But when you listen to it, including the guy's ex-wife,

2:02:15 It's just filled with all kinds of memes that scream Gitmo Nation. Let's listen to the commercial. This is a dramatization. It's Listerine. Sorry about this. You know, fans should buy you an H2. Yeah, but there's so many things I just don't have the time to make the clips out of all of these is it you know and what do you make the clip out of I'd have a million clips and I want to be on you know I want to be able to anticipate to jump in and do something here we go his name is Steven Slater and if you don't know his name by now you'll probably know what he did he is the JetBlue flight attendant who got so frustrated on the job yesterday

2:02:59 that he quit in epic fashion. And tonight he is free on bail after cooling his heels behind bars all day, all the while... By the way, and this is not to, uh... what's the word I'm looking for the guy is clearly gay let's put it that way yeah but but his ex-wife his ex-wife talks for a moment and it's really funny folk hero reputation was burning up the internet Andrea Canning looks at how one man's meltdown it's a sign of the times here it is sign of the times listen remember Remember when being a flight attendant was a job of glamour and adventure? Well, those days are over. Now, flight attendants deal with frustrated passengers who are cramped and cranky. I mean, is this not a total PR piece put together to show you how air travel has become cramped and cranky? It's just crap. Enter America's newest folk hero.

2:03:56 Steven Slater, the now infamous JetBlue flight attendant, isn't being praised for saving anyone's life or averting disaster, but because he lost his cool when an unruly passenger tried to get her bag and hit him on the head. When she didn't apologize, Slater got on the intercom, started swearing, and had these parting words. I quit. That's it. I'm done. And I thought that was the end of it. Until his triumphant exit, which can be heard on this airport radio traffic. We just had a slide deployment. It was intentionally deployed. Let me tell you, this piece is so well produced. It is so well put together. They've got video of everything, they went through all this trouble. This is a PR piece, completely. Yeah, it's probably a video press release. And they've got pictures of him next to the model of the jet blue airplane. Activated the emergency inflatable chute and slid down the tarmac, but not before grabbing a few beers for the road. I think he just had a very small meltdown.

2:04:55 And I think he deserves to be able to have that meltdown. And it isn't just his mother who's on his side. For people who have been pushed to the limit, Stephen Slater... This is Michael Musto of the Village Voice, who is a douchebag. ...is a hero. He's somebody who said, I'm out of here. And he didn't say, I'm out of here, until he told everybody off over the loudspeaker. And the best thing about what he did is that he proved that the emergency chute actually works. just a day after his tarmac tantrum. Wow, I mean, isn't that... So we were in doubt until then. Yeah, because you know, gee, at least when we crash we know we can get off if we're not dead. Thanks, Michael. Buzz around the water cooler seems to be much in his favor. There are Facebook pages with tens of thousands of fans and blogs giving him virtual pats on the back. There are even t-shirts for sale. This is a major personage of our time.

2:05:45 I'm going to go home and follow him on Facebook. By the way, this shot of Michael Musto completely styled, black backdrop, beautifully lit. It's so, so produced. Immediately, I'll even follow his tweets. Slater spent the day being arraigned in a New York courtroom and sitting in jail waiting to be bailed out. Does he know that he's become somewhat of a folk hero overnight? He has thousands of fans on Facebook now. I don't think he's aware of anything. He's been isolated from any news. He didn't know about all the news coverage. Could Stephen Slater have done what we've all dreamed of doing at one job or another? Anne Hathaway has a great quitting scene in The Devil Wears Prada where she can't take anymore of the B-rate. They cleared the rights for this scene from the movie. Well, it takes a minute. Yeah. Now it costs money is what I, it's expensive.

2:06:29 She finally just throws her cell phone in the fountain and walks away. I was thinking keep the job, we want a sequel. This fantasy of storming out of work... They cleared this with Office Space with Jennifer Aniston. ...in a blaze of glory has been a recurring theme in movie after movie. Jennifer Aniston's character Joanna in Office Space wasn't wearing enough buttons at her job. I hate this job! I hate this job and I don't need it! And Network? Well, this one is enough to make any any news reporter a little nervous. I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore! Network is the iconic I'm quitting scene. Peter Finch deservedly won an Oscar for it. Unfortunately he was dead by the time he won, maybe from the rage. This character has more rage than Mel Gibson but expresses himself way more poetically. Only time will tell if Stephen Slater turns into another Howard- Here comes his ex-wife. Eel, inspiring others to follow in his footsteps.

2:07:25 Stephen Slater just said, I'm not taking it anymore. This is it. This is the last time. And that's why it's such a fantasy that people are glomming onto. It's like, oh, we wish we had that in us to tell people off and just walk away and take two beers. That's the important thing. He definitely exited in a grand fashion. He is a dramatic fellow, so I wouldn't expect any less of him. The ex-wife says he's a dramatic fellow. Haha, drama queen. Yeah, well listen, and now he's gonna talk and it's like, oh, okay, I get it. Here he is. It seems like something here has resonated with a few people, and that's kind of neat. That's kind of neat.

2:08:14 So there's a couple of things that need to be pointed out. One, the specious argument that he told off his bosses and quit. He didn't tell off his boss, he told off the passengers. He didn't go into the offices of JetBlue and scream at the CEO and quit like any of these people that they exemplified. So that's bull crap. The second thing is you think it's a coincidence they keep mentioning this beer. They already took two beers. Hill and Knowlton, they now are leading Dos Equis brand. They, Heineken selected them to do it. So there's a beer meme in there that's obviously been slipped in because this piece was produced pretty much under the direction or with the help of Hill and Knowlton that, because it was a slam piece and it was never, of course, they didn't have the train meme in there which is,

2:08:59 Would have been it would have been too much. Yeah, that would have been too over drinking beer Yeah, and they got their you know their their anti-airplane Me me and so yeah, but his bullcrap he told off the passengers He didn't tell off the company and I'll and also I don't know by the way And here's the thing that's weird about it This guy must have been working there long enough to know that if that woman swung a gun bag and hit him in the head he could have had her hauled off the plane thrown into custody and her life would have been miserable but instead he has a hissy fit. Maybe the guy was a plant too who knows. I don't know I'm beginning to wonder.

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Rachel Maddow and High-Speed Rail Propaganda

Rachel Maddow is criticized for a segment praising China's massive investment in high-speed rail while lamenting the lack of similar infrastructure in the U.S. The hosts label her a "shill" for ignoring existing American rail services like the Acela and using the story to push a partisan political agenda.

rachel maddow· china· high-speed rail· msnbc· infrastructure

2:09:38 Alright, then we have the clip of the week which of course this is the trains good planes bad clip of the week from Rachel Maddow our friend from MSNBC first happy new year also the happy largest regularly anticipated human migration in the world It is Chinese Lunar New Year on Sunday, which is also the world's largest movement of people from one place to other places. Chinese Lunar New Year in China is called the Spring Festival. It's the most important holiday in the Chinese calendar. And as people all over the world do on important holidays, the Chinese travel for this holiday. A big majority of China's 1.3 billion people

2:10:21 are expected to take at least one trip for New Year's, totaling more than 2.5 billion excursions. The good news for these billion or so travelers, this largest mass migration in American, in world history, is that this year some of those trips will be a lot shorter. In the last four years, China has spent more than $185 billion on high-speed rail, just on trains. But all of that investment means is that within about two years, China expects to have 42 new high-speed train lines. For comparison, here in America, we won't even have our first one. We're expecting our first high-speed rail line two years after the Chinese are expecting 42 of them. We'll get one within four years.

2:11:08 four years, China will get 42 in half the time. Our one little high speed rail commitment will connect and Orlando, Florida. China, on the other hand, has major train routes planned to link all of its major cities. The super fast trains average about 215 miles an hour. That would be like traveling over land Dallas to Detroit in six hours, Birmingham to Indianapolis and a little over two hours. Boston to New York in an hour. Wouldn't it be awesome if we were doing that instead of China? I'm sure if we tried, someone would filibuster it. How long does it take to get from Boston to New York? 45 minutes by plane. Well, you can do it in an hour with a high-speed train.

2:11:56 And the way she says it so dramatically as though it takes days to go there You know what's next 45 minutes and by the way, we do have a high-speed train. It's called the Xcella It runs up and down the eastern seaboard So she's full of crap on that and the fact that this story was obviously designed for the you know to Propagandize Americans is the really was given away by the fact that she dropped America in as a as a flub. It was on her mind. So she's the greatest in the history of America, Abba China. She's a shill. She's a total shill. She should be ashamed of herself for pushing this crap. And the editorializing. She doesn't care what we think.

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

John Pilger on Brand Obama and Corporate Power

The show concludes with a five-minute clip from journalist John Pilger, who describes Barack Obama as a "corporate marketing creation." Pilger details Obama's early career at a CIA-linked consulting firm and his continuation of Bush-era policies regarding the military budget, surveillance, and foreign intervention.

john pilger· brand obama· cia· military budget· corporate backing

2:12:37 wouldn't it be great but of course the Republicans would filibuster it yeah that was the punchline yeah the Republicans would filibuster if you know the Chinese would love to have our air transport system you know where you get basically wouldn't have to wear diapers on their high-speed trains because they won't let them poop it's true yeah no yet they yeah no it's inconvenient yeah to say the least hey I have an end of show clip That I'd like to play. Did you ever find out who did the other end of show clip? I still don't know. We're gonna have to play it again until somebody can tell us who it is. I'm gonna play John Pilger today. It's about a five minute clip titled Obama is a corporate marketing creation. It's a good little clip. Hmm, okay. I think you'll like that. Okay, John. So we'll be back Sunday morning for early morning service.

2:13:33 Yeah, and I want to remind people to go and give us a hand here doing this thing and help us continue doing this show by going to Dvorak.org slash NA and donating something. If you're on the mailing list, you probably got a letter this week asking to help us out with more $5 subscriptions. And sorry we ran a little bit long, but just had to get those trains, good planes, bad clips in. It's very important stuff. Yeah, we got to get this show shortened up. Coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center and give my nation West and the People's Republic of Southern California I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. We can't prove he's a spy or not So we don't care. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you Ken on Sunday right here on no agenda The clever young man who recently made it to the White House is a very fine hypnotist

2:14:35 partly because it is indeed extraordinary to see an African-American at the pinnacle of power in the land of slavery. However, this is the 21st century and race together with gender and even class can be very seductive tools of propaganda. For what is so often overlooked and what matters, I believe above all, is the class one serves. George Bush's inner circle from the State Department to the Supreme Court was perhaps the most multiracial in presidential history. It was PC, par excellence. Think Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell. It was also the most reactionary. Obama's very presence in the White House appears to reaffirm the moral nation. He's a marketing dream.

2:15:30 But like Calvin Klein or Benetton, he is a brand that promises something special, something exciting, almost risque. As if he might be radical, as if he might enact change. He makes people feel good. He's a postmodern man with no political baggage and all that's fake. In his book, Dreams from My Father, Obama refers to the job he took after he graduated from Columbia in 1983. He describes his employer as, and I quote, a consulting house to multinational corporations, unquote. For some reason, he doesn't say who his employer was or what he did there. The employer was Business International Corporation.

2:16:17 which has a long history of providing cover for the CIA with covert action and infiltrating unions and the left. I know this because it was especially active in my own country, Australia. Obama doesn't say what he did at Business International and they may be absolutely nothing sinister, but it seems worthy of inquiry and debate as a clue to perhaps who the man is. During his brief period in the Senate, Obama voted to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He voted for the Patriot Act. He refused to support a bill for single-payer health care. He supported the death penalty. As a presidential candidate, he received more corporate backing than John McCain. He promised to close Guantanamo as a priority.

2:17:11 but instead he's excused torture, reinstated military commissions, kept the Bush Gulag intact and opposed habeas corpus. Daniel Ellsberg, the great whistleblower, was right. I believe when he said that under Bush a military coup had taken place in the United States, giving the Pentagon unprecedented powers, These powers have been reinforced by the presence of Robert Gates, a Bush family crony, and George W. Bush's powerful Secretary of Defense, and by all the Bush Pentagon officials and generals who have kept their jobs under Obama. In the middle of a recession, with millions of Americans losing their jobs and homes, Obama has increased the military budget. In Colombia,

2:18:04 He is planning to spend 46 million dollars on a new military base that will support a regime backed by death squads and further the tragic history of Washington's intervention in that region. In a pseudo-event in Prague, Obama promised a world without nuclear weapons to a global audience mostly unaware that America is building new tactical nuclear weapons designed to blur the distinction between nuclear and conventional war. Like George Bush, he used the absurdity of Europe threatened by Iran to justify building a missile system aimed at Russia and China.

2:18:48 In another pseudo-event at the Annapolis Naval Academy, decked with flags and uniforms, Obama lied that America had gone to Iraq to bring freedom to that country. He announced that the troops were coming home. This was another deception. The head of the army, General George Casey, says with some authority that America will be in Iraq for up to a decade. Other generals say 15 years. Chris Hedges, the very fine author of Empire of Illusion, puts it very well. President Obama, he wrote, does one thing and brand Obama get you to believe another. This is the essence of successful advertising. You buy or do what the advertiser wants because of how they make you feel, unquote. And so you are kept in a perpetual state of childishness. He calls this

2:19:51 Chung's politics. You can take that to the bank.