Episode 218 · Sunday, 18 July 2010

Former Soviet Spy

A deep dive into the legacy of Soviet espionage, the laundering of cartel cash by major banks, and the suspicious mechanics of the global cocoa market.

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About this episode

Elizabeth Bentley, the former Soviet spy who defected to the FBI in 1945, returns to the spotlight via archival footage from a 1953 Meet the Press interview. Her testimony, which identified over 150 federal employees as assets, highlights the historical friction between the FBI and the OSS. This look at legacy espionage coincides with a massive expansion of the modern intelligence community through private contractors.

Financial markets face unprecedented manipulation as a mystery trader corners nearly $1 billion in European cocoa stocks, driving prices to a 33-year high. Simultaneously, Goldman Sachs settles with the SEC for $550 million amid allegations of insider trading on put and call options. In the banking sector, Wachovia and Bank of America are linked to laundering hundreds of millions for Mexican drug cartels, while the Senate confirms Peter Diamond, Sarah Raskin, and Janet Yellen to the Federal Reserve Board to oversee new inflationary policies.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak explore the oddities of the week, from the iDoser app's binaural heroin simulations to the suspicious timing of a Rockville earthquake during a BP oil well announcement. The duo critiques the aggressive policing of bubble-blowing protesters at the G20 and the bizarre use of photo illustrations to depict Bernie Madoff's prison life in New York Magazine.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 218 Introduction, Gitmo Nation West

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 218 of the No Agenda podcast from their respective locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts establish the "Gitmo Nation" theme and mention a pending story regarding human power generation. They confirm their lack of contact between shows to maintain on-air chemistry.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· crackpot command center· silicon valley

00:00 This was pathetic! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. Sunday, July 18th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 218. This is no agenda. Providing the best legal high on the interwebs and coming to you from the hilltop watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West here in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning I'm Adam Curry and the show by the way is still in beta. I'm in northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning.

00:37 Hey, hey, in the morning to you, John. And in the morning to you and everyone listening and all the ships at sea. And all human resources hope you're ready and charged up because the government needs you for power generation. Oh yeah, there's a battery story floating around. Yeah, of course, we'll get to that. How you doing, John? Once again, we have succeeded in not speaking with each other since the last show and I'm really enjoying it. Yeah? Yeah, it's good. It's really good, though. It's mutual. It's not that I don't love you, it's just I love you more when I haven't spoken to you in a while. Now I know it's Mickey and I that have been keeping in contact. Is that true? Oops! I've got all the girls here. Yeah, yeah, confirmation on that. So, to start it right off, John, just before we get to anything, I think we should all get into the mood here on the show.

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

iDoser App, Binaural Audio and Digital Drugs

The hosts examine the iDoser iPhone application, which uses binaural recording technology to simulate drug-like effects through audio. They discuss the cost of the app and specific in-app purchases like "Poppies," which the app description compares to the effects of heroin. A brief audio experiment is conducted to test the effectiveness of the binaural tones on the listeners and hosts.

idoser· binaural beats· iphone app· heroin· poppies

01:28 And of course there was that crazy story about eye dosing that we talked about on Thursday. Yeah, and the resultant... and as a result we got a slew of mail. A ton of mail. People, I know how it works and they have examples of where it goes back in history and this is nothing new and it was sold at the sharper image or something you know. Well I remember the sharper image glasses and earphones which cost like 350 bucks now it's like I'm not gonna buy that that looks stupid. And I guess it's part of its binaural Recording which I don't really understand the technology behind by binaural Is it just a way of phasing the two channels or how does that work? I don't know. Come on, John You're supposed to know you know everything now. I don't know that I mean it's some something something wacky about is all I can tell you so I got an email one of the many emails. I think this one I can't shoot. Of course. I can't remember who was from there is an iPhone app for that and

02:28 So yes, so I have hooked up my My eyes that the one that spins and looks like a disc spinning like they're gonna hypnotize you remember you do you have that on your iPhone? Yeah, yeah, I got that one yeah, no this this is this is actually a Binaural audio only let me find it here for a second. Oh And what is it called again? It's called iDoser. There you go. This apparently is the one, John. And what's great about it, the app itself costs $4.99. It's too high. Well it gets better than that because, well first of all this is idoser.com, binaural brain wave doses and you have to hear, idoser.com makes no medical, psychological, physical or otherwise claims to the effects of these binaural based stimulated experiences I accept, yes, okay. Now, so they've got a couple of

03:25 They've got a couple of preset binaural thingies in here that come with the app, like Reset, Brain+, Anti-Sad, Confidence. inspire sleeping angel not but then if you scroll like a meditation it sounds like something you find in the open in one of those local newspapers that shows gives all these courses and howling and things like that right but then what's interesting they have what's called in-app purchases which is which is something new Apple talking yeah yeah in-app purchase man everything's blowing up here

04:02 And so there's here's the ones you can buy and you tell me when to stop lucid dream astral projection out-of-body Divinorium first love orgasm adrenaline cactus buttons green absinthe Poppies you're supposed to say stop. Oh stop poppies Let me read the description here It's a 15-minute program. It's the joy plant a naturally occurring I can't even read this. Analgesic- A. Analgesic harvested...

04:40 As a latex, analgesic, harvested as a latex from ripe papava, somaferum, that causes euphoria followed by a sense of well-being and a calm drowsiness or sedation. Breathing slows, time reverses or stops, the world is a haze. I'm like, that sounds good. This is basically heroin. This is heroin. So do you mind if we all get stoned for a second and we'll do a massive experiment here and see if it really works? I would I would welcome it. Okay. All right, so if you're listening to this on the speakers, turn down caution caution caution. Yeah, caution. You may never be the same. We're going to fire up the program here. And let me turn up the volume. You don't have your headphones on do you? Don't mess up my experience. Oh, you're not hearing it right. It's probably messing up everybody's experience.

05:44 Be quiet. Man. Man. I'm wasted, dude. I have to say if you turn it up really loud in the headphones, it does like affect your head. That's for sure. But I don't know if it's doing anything for me. Let's just listen one more second here. Sounds like somebody taking a... Alright. At first it sounds like somebody taking their wet finger around a rim of a glass.

06:44 Hey, I do feel kind of a little... queasy. Oh, notice! Stopping a dose that is playing is not recommended. You will not have processed the full sequence or achieved full effects. Do you still want to stop playing the dose? I think we should, Jon. I don't know. I don't know. It's... it's... I can't stop it, man. I can't stop it, man. It's too good. No, wait, the poppies was an additional $3.99. Oh you had to pay extra? Yeah for the poppy sound yeah of course. Now you don't just get poppies for free dude. I don't know. Actually that... Looks like a BitTorrent. Actually that high... So it's $4.99 plus the $3.99 for the in-app purchase is only one dollar less than an actual dose of heroin. In Salt Lake City $10 is the current going price for a bump of heroin.

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

Yousef's Hummus, Sabra Ingredients and Olive Oil

A brief culinary discussion focuses on the quality of store-bought hummus in the United States. Comparison is made between the Sabra brand, which uses soybean oil, and Yousef's Hummus, which uses olive oil. The hosts express a preference for authentic Middle Eastern preparation methods over national brands.

yousef's hummus· sabra· costco· olive oil· soybean oil

07:42 So, I don't know man. I think we should go for the real deal. Yeah, but you could use this more than once. You can't reuse the heroin. Right. Okay, so if that affected anyone, let us know. Well, since people want wine and food reporting... There you go. Wasn't that it? I gotta mention something. Yeah, that was it. Yousef's Hummus. Okay. It's not bad. Yousef's Hummus? Where do you get it? Costco? I don't know where I... you know, I have it in the refrigerator and I don't know where I bought it. Now the... which says something. But anyway, the people out there who like hummus, probably have discovered... I mean, if they ever had real hummus in... you know, made by an old lady in the basement in a Middle Eastern restaurant in the Middle East. Yes. Real hummus made fresh daily. Yeah. Know that you can't get good hummus in this country. No.

08:40 But there's stuff that approaches it and I the one I always liked the most was Sabra which is a national brand but Sabra you did refuse to use olive oil in their hummus they use a Soybean oil and it bugs me, but they have their texture and everything down as so this Yousef's use up uses olive oil So that's your tip of the day. No, thank you very much Eric The shill says he got hard from our little experiment there. So it did something I'll let that one pass. Do we have any executive producers? No, we have no executive producers for the first time in six months. Really? Yeah. People either didn't like last week's show or they found it boring. But you know, we get the feedback is the feedback we get from our shows is the donations we receive in the weeks or the week that follows. And obviously we did something wrong. We got nothing.

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Shortfall, Donation Feedback Loop

The hosts report a significant lack of high-tier donations for the week, noting that for the first time in six months, there are no executive producers to credit. They analyze the correlation between show content and listener financial support. They conclude that they must credit themselves as executive producers due to the lack of $200+ contributions.

executive producers· donations· spreadsheet· value for value· podcast funding

09:35 Well, hold on I'm opening up the spreadsheet. We don't have anything don't we have any don't we have some minor donations? But the executive producers began at $200. We have nothing above $100 and that's only a couple of donations from some regulars Wow, so who do we put on the credits for executive producer? We were gonna credit ourselves. We're the executive producers Wow That's not okay, John No, I know so we have to we have to deconstruct last week's show or last but a lot of people like last week's show I got a lot of email. I like last week's show You must have encouraged them not to donate then I don't know why holy crap So last week's show the way I see it based I mean people can talk all they want about liking something or not like and we liked it we had a good time we entertain ourselves with results it results its result oriented in this that got nothing okay well crap

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

Rockville Maryland Earthquake, BP Well Capping Coincidence

A 3.6 magnitude earthquake centered in Rockville, Maryland, is discussed in the context of political timing. The event occurred just as President Barack Obama was set to announce the capping of the BP oil well and the passage of the financial reform bill. Reference is made to former Secretary of Defense William Cohen's past comments regarding environmental warfare and "earthquake machines."

rockville· maryland· earthquake· barack obama· william cohen· earthquake machine

10:28 I hope you got something good for this week then. No. Screw it. Here's one for ya. I do believe that we had a little touching of the button of the earthquake machine. Now, we've had a lot of quakes in the past couple weeks around the globe and I've... Yeah, what bothers me is that this is an earthquake in another area where there shouldn't be an earthquake. Yeah, which was basically the Washington DC area. And it's interesting because it's not, you know, in some of these areas we get these, you know, because people are drilling for or doing the cracking, the earth cracking so they can get natural gas out of the earth and they're screwing everything up and creating these minor earthquakes.

11:05 I don't know of anybody that's doing that in the Virginia, DC, Maryland area. Yeah, the center was Rockville, Maryland and I used to live there. Rockville, Maryland is where a lot of spooks live. I used to live there. Now here's what I found interesting. First of all, the president was about to do his BP well capping announcement that morning at 9 a.m. along with the announcement because man we had our Our show was on Thursday. I was telling everyone that it looks like by Friday. They were going to ram through this financial reform bill protect Consumer Protection Act which of course only empowers the Federal Reserve the private banks to take hold of the economy and

11:58 And they did it that day, like I hadn't even uploaded the show and the bill had already passed. It was like, oh, we're done, get it, we want the Friday off or whatever. So the president was also going to hit the lawn to talk about that. And you'd almost think that it was like a little warning, like a, hey, make sure you do it right, Barack. And then when the president was asked at the press conference, Mr. President, so first question, Mr. President, did you feel the earthquake? No, I did not. Like, oh really? He says he didn't feel it. Maybe he didn't. There's a lot of earthquakes you don't feel. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't know what an earthquake feels like. There's a possibility it's from Illinois after all.

12:42 So, anyway, I just found a lot of coincidences in the entire occurrence. And I'm not always saying that earthquakes are made by the machine, but we know they exist. We know the Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, testified that they exist and that he was afraid of them. And we needed to be able to combat them and well there you go. Yeah, you've documented this. Yeah, so 3.6 magnitude which is very small because they also change the scale from the Richter scale to some other scale. We don't know what the heck it is scale. So we don't even know what it feels like. We don't even know what that means. 3.6 might have been a 1 on the Richter scale. It could have been a 10 for all we know. We really don't know.

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

Mel Gibson, Chantix Outrage Defense

The hosts briefly discuss the public controversy surrounding Mel Gibson. They suggest that his erratic behavior might be attributed to the side effects of the smoking-cessation drug Chantix. They note that some mainstream media outlets are beginning to echo their sentiment of giving the actor a reprieve.

mel gibson· chantix· mainstream media· celebrity scandal· outrage

13:25 Someone suggests we should make Mel Gibson the executive producer Which is funny, you know our meme kind of or I would say my meme of in a way Defending Mel Gibson. It's kind of catching on. I'm not the only one now Some mainstream media is also saying hey, you know, give the guy a break. Hold on a second Yeah, but that doesn't mean none of it amounts to a hill of beans unless someone got him the word Yeah, what we really want is we we want him to admit that he was on Chantix And that's why he was so outraged and insane. Everything points to a clear case of it. So there's an interesting situation developing around Oakland in particular. Somebody pointed out the possibility exists that there's been a decrease in crime all over the place.

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

San Francisco Parking Meters, Smart Sensors and Kiosks

A detailed critique of the new electronic parking systems in San Francisco and Oakland highlights the shift from simple coin meters to complex sensor-based kiosks. The discussion covers the high cost of installation, the difficulty of reading LCD screens in sunlight, and the use of sensors to prevent "feeding the meter." The hosts argue these systems are designed for revenue extraction rather than traffic flow.

san francisco· parking meters· kiosks· sensors· revenue generation

14:21 and the analysis on some level is, and you're seeing this in a lot of the big city urban areas, and it's not because of the policing or anything else because in Oakland they're laying off 80 cops and they're actually lessening the policing. In fact, from what I understand, they're saying in Oakland that we can't afford the police force so we're not really going to go after all crimes, but we will continue to write tickets. Tickets are no problem. It's easy money, easy money. And they still have the onerous parking laws and the rest of it. By the way, San Francisco is the worst city in the world. I've said this a number of times, and you would agree with me. So they have these parking... Now everybody in the country, for some unknown reason, has taken out parking meters and they're putting in these electronic systems. Yeah, the ones with the scanners so they know exactly how long you've been there?

15:12 They have, that's the extreme case and that's in San Francisco. In San Francisco they not only put in a system that you have to go to this corner or some kiosk and the way it works in San Francisco, your parking spot has a number, you go to a kiosk and you punch in uh... the number of your spot in the new throw money into this machine and then uh... the machine also has a sensor on it so if you go back and feed the meter because they don't want you staying around for more than two hours i mean the original reason for parking meters was to the traffic keep it going right keep it going to be moving and never became the idea was never that it would become a income source until some being canister you know we can make money with these meters

15:57 And so more recently in San Francisco, for example, you get three minutes for a quarter. So if you had to load up, if you wanted to stay an hour, you'd be, or a couple hours, you'd have to be, you'd be throwing quarters in like crazy. And by the time you get the last quarter and you've already used up the first three minutes. Right. Okay. We know, we know about your peeve. What's the point? So the other thing is, so they've decided that the problem is if these meters fill up with quarters, you know, they just clog up. So now they got these cards you use. and they don't want you using money at all. So then they took the damn things out completely and they've got these kiosks and unfortunately in San Francisco they use a really crappy LCD screen so if the sun hits it you can't read the damned LCD to know what the hell you're doing.

16:39 And then of course kids come by now with a spray can. And scratch it or mess it up so you can't see it. And they scratch the thing up or they spray it or whatever. In Oakland... Those damn kids. In Oakland and Berkeley they use a system where you put your money and then you get a little chit, a little receipt comes out that you put on your dashboard. Tells you what time you can leave. Right. Anyway, but in San Francisco they got these, now they got these sensors embedded into that. This is, how many millions of dollars Is this costing the city? And if you take a look at some of these areas where they've installed this stuff, there's nobody parking there anyway. Right, John. You hate it. I get it. What's the point? Oh, I don't know. I lost my train of thought. You were going to say something about Oakland and then your own parking meters. So it appears as if crime is down. In fact, in San Francisco, crime is down too. And everyone's kind of baffled by it. Play the clip, One Less Homicide.

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Urban Crime Rates, Fluoride Lethargy and Riot Predictions

Police Chief George Gascon's report of a 10% drop in violent crime in San Francisco is met with skepticism. The hosts debate whether the decrease in crime is due to community policing or a "dumbed down" populace affected by fluoride and aspartame. A prediction is made that massive rioting will occur in major U.S. cities within the next 12 months.

oakland· san francisco· crime rates· fluoride· aspartame· civil unrest

17:31 Oh, hold on, I wasn't quite prepared for that. One less homicide coming up for you, sir. Meantime, San Francisco Police Chief George Gascon says a community policing strategy has led to a drop in crime. The strategy is called zone enforcement. That's where officers are deployed to neighborhoods where there's been an increase in crime. In the first six months of this year, there was a 10% drop in violent crime compared to the same period last year. Property crimes dropped 12%, and there was one less homicide. You know, there's no zone enforcement in Oakland and their numbers are way down too. Everybody's numbers are down and now people are thinking that what you normally have like gang violence and now the it seems as if everybody is like getting ready to riot. It's the calm before the storm. I disagree. I think that they've now successfully put enough fluoride in the water

18:24 The Aspartame that's in everything today probably has something to do with it. I think we're just dumbed down. I think we're just lethargic. My prediction within the next 12 months is there's going to be some massive riots. If they don't happen, you can throw that comment of yours back at me. There's going to be some massive rioting going on in the big cities. All cities? No, just the ones that have issues. Okay, all cities. All cities. Seattle. Except Seattle. There's no one in Seattle. You go to Seattle, you walk around like, where is everybody? There's no one there on the street. I don't get Seattle.

19:04 Okay, well that's a good one. We'll look at that I personally I really believe that people are just completely dumbed down because mainly because of the additives to the water That's the whole point is keep the populace quiet. They want hmm It's riots my friend. Okay, and you're right gonna be right in the middle of it. No, I have no problem I'm up at the top of the hill and I'll be shooting everybody away. I'll be boiling oil and dropping it on them It's great being up here in the hilltop watchtower. Yeah, well I'm sure it's a good so you have a nice view. A really weird story in the Telegraph, John. Headline, mystery trader buys all of Europe's cocoa.

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

Mystery Trader, Global Cocoa Market Cornering

A report from The Telegraph details a mystery trader who purchased nearly all of Europe's physical cocoa stocks, valued at approximately $1 billion. The trade sent cocoa prices to their highest levels since 1977. The hosts question the lack of transparency in the market and the inability of financial reporters to identify the individual or group behind the massive acquisition.

cocoa· the telegraph· netherlands· hamburg· commodity trading

19:43 Yeah, I read that too. I'm skeptical. Do you think that's maybe just a planted story to jack the price up? Or did it sound like it? It's a sure jack the price up wouldn't it? I haven't checked the price, but the purchase it says was enough to move the entire well there you go entire global cocoa market sending them I'm sorry here. It says sending the price to the highest level since 77 triggering rumors and intrigue in the city It's unclear which person or group of traders was behind the deal, but it's the single largest cocoa trade for 14 years. That's big! And this is the actual physical beans sitting in warehouses in the Netherlands, Hamburg, London, not in London, yeah, London, Liverpool. It's total value $658,000,000,000, about a billion dollars.

20:37 But they don't know who it is. I think it's got to be just this, I don't know, who is this person? You think someone would be able to reveal that? This is what I don't understand. How come they can't track this? Where's the transparency of the market? I mean, these are open trades. Can't you just go and check the tape? Well most people with a Bloomberg terminal you can usually find out everything. Well how come no one ever seems to be able to track this stuff? It's the same thing when we had... This is bad reporting. I think if I was on that beat I would have already had the guy's name. Somebody knows who it is. And all you have to do is ask around. Yeah, that's the mystery and intrigue in the city line I guess. Like somebody knows. So along those lines here's a fantastic report

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

Goldman Sachs SEC Settlement, Insider Trading Allegations

Analysis of the Goldman Sachs $550 million settlement with the SEC reveals suspicious trading patterns involving put and call options. Data suggests that insiders may have known the timing of the civil complaint and the subsequent settlement, allowing for massive returns on options. The SEC is criticized for potential leaks and general incompetence in regulating Wall Street.

goldman sachs· sec· put options· call options· financial fraud

21:23 Producer Matt sent this in I guess he subscribes to some financial newsletter and there was a huge, well this is just fantastic, it's from Agora I think is the name of this of this report. So of course we had Goldman Sachs who were sued by the SEC, a civil suit and which was settled for what was it like half a billion dollars 550 million dollars but listen to the timing and listen what happened so in the support it says five in five minutes on April 19th in the wake of the SEC civil complaint against Goldman Sachs people holding one people holding put options on Goldman Sachs made about a hundred and forty thousand hundred and forty thousand percent return and they've got charts to back this up

22:17 Now as it turns out, the number of puts for Goldman Sachs in April was extremely high. 170. We're talking like 10 times the volume. As if someone might have known that the civil suit was coming. And then on Friday, options expiration Friday I might add, which is a big deal in the options market, There were actually 20 times the normal amount of puts. SEC announced Goldman was settling the case for $550 million and there were 150 Goldman call options. Another huge volume way off the scale of anything that's ever been there. And of course, Goldman ticked up immediately.

23:13 So the scam is so apparent that everybody knew A, the SEC was going to file suit, so everyone was, and then they knew it in advance. So they bought all these put options, which is basically a gamble against the stock going down, which it did significantly. And then on the expiration date of the options, when they knew that Golden was going to settle, everyone bought call options. We're in the wrong game, John. You're actually surprised by this? Oh I'm surprised no one else is reporting it. That's what I'm surprised by. I mean come on, isn't it so obvious? And the SEC, they leaked it. They're the ones that know.

23:56 Yeah, well the SEC, let's face it, we've talked about this to extreme. They're incompetent or corrupt or both. And I'm not sexist or anything, but all these women who are running the show at the SEC and the FDIC, they're jackasses. And they've really messed it up. And there's no good. And there seems to be a lot of women in these positions. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to, you know, I don't know what to tell you. Well, tell me this. So we... Tell me this, Batman. So the... It's happened, it's through the Federal Reserve Empowerment Act. All that has to happen now is I guess the president has to sign it, so that'll probably happen Monday. So they're sharpening up the pens. He always has to use 20 of them, so everyone gets a little piece of history there.

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

Federal Reserve Board, New Governors and Inflation Policy

The Senate confirmation hearings for three new Federal Reserve governors—Peter Diamond, Sarah Raskin, and Janet Yellen—are examined. The hosts note that these 14-year appointments follow the passage of the financial reform bill. All three nominees are characterized as favoring inflationary policies to manage national debt during the current economic depression.

federal reserve· peter diamond· sarah raskin· janet yellen· inflation

24:44 uh... and then i would it by the way that is going to be the the biggest joke late what is the point of this show with a president or you know it grabs a pen and sizes it's b yet and i think that it's a it's a circle of the b yeah right one little and did not sure something on his own is it on his signature and so everyone gets a call that's the pen that he this is a book this is bogus he didn't sign anything with this these pens well you actually see him signing He's making marks. If he took and signed his name with a pen and gave that pen to somebody, then I think they would have some historical interest. Interest, by the way, not value. But to do this one pen after another game, it's like show business. It's bullcrap. Sorry. It's okay. So this has passed, and I didn't expect it until Friday, as I said earlier.

25:42 And then on Friday I'm watching C-SPAN, which is what we do so you don't have to. And there's three new governors coming on to the Federal Reserve Board, which, who were nominated back in March, I guess. Oh really? Yeah and of course if you read the, and I did, if you read this bill which is supposed to protect consumers but what it really does is every paragraph it's, oh the Board of Governors will determine, the Board of Governors will set up, the Board of Governors will oversee and the Board of Governors is bankers typically who sit on the Federal Reserve Board which is a private organization.

26:22 I guess I guess they got the last laugh on Ron Paul. Oh my god. So here's who who's coming in Peter Diamond is Is that name ring a bell? No, I think I think I thought diamond diamond, but that would be Jamie diamond and this is Peter diamond and So he will be, and so these are nominations and they have to be they have to be confirmed by the Senate. A big deal, another show to go through. It's not even on C-SPAN 1, it's on C-SPAN 2. That's how unimportant it seems to be. But these are like Supreme Court justices. It's a 14 year nomination. And three are being changed right after this legislation has been rammed through? Hmm.

27:08 So Peter Diamond, oh according to this article, high quality by any standards, an MIT economist, several important economic theorems to his name. He will prove to be very useful in a crisis, John, if only for his ability to figure out the best course of action because he is an expert in behavioral economics. Oh! I don't like the sound of that. Behavioral economics. Yeah. Monetary policy from him is unknown. Then we have Sarah Raskin.

27:44 a regulatory specialist, currently Maryland's Commissioner of Financial Regulation. We'll have to see how good Maryland's doing. Monetarily, she is something of an unknown quantity, though the odds are she would tend towards the soft money wing on the Fed, and what that is I'll tell you in a second. And then the third is Janet Yellen. This is the hearing that I actually watched. President currently of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. Which I might point out is again, it's part of the Federal Reserve banking system. It's the bankers, they're bankers overseeing bankers. A little conflict there maybe? With 30 years as a monetary economist, three years as a Fed governor in the 90s, six years at the San Francisco Federal Reserve, she's unquestionably qualified. She's married to George Akerlof who's a Nobel Prize winning economist.

28:38 Bottom line is they are all for inflation. All three of them. They all feel that inflation has to go. We have to jack stuff up. Yeah, I think there's a... I think there's a good argument for that personally. How much inflation do you think we're gonna have? We're gonna see with it because they basically control the inflation, right? They can... They could. They can raise interest rates. They can print money. The long-term thing is, you know, if you can really crank up inflation then you can pay off all your debts with cheap money. I mean that's one of the things that that's why the Chinese aren't don't want to see any sort of inflation. But you know we're in the throes of a depression.

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

Hyperinflation History, Weimar Republic and Zimbabwe

A historical overview of hyperinflation touches on the Weimar Republic, Brazil, and modern-day Zimbabwe. The hosts discuss the mechanics of currency devaluation and how it affects labor contracts and debt repayment. They contrast these extremes with the Federal Reserve's goal of maintaining a "controlled" inflation rate of 3-4% to avoid deflationary spirals.

hyperinflation· weimar republic· zimbabwe· brazil· deflation

29:18 We are in a depression I would say, just not recognized as such. The Shroes. Anyway, so we're in a depression and to get inflation during a depression is pretty difficult without, you know, you can have issues. I mean, in Germany of course in the 30s they had The Weimar Republic. They had the ridiculous hyperinflation and it was out of control whereby people were having to carry around wheelbarrows full of money to pay for things like a loaf of bread. Which is kind of the way it is in Zimbabwe now. Zimbabwe's got hyperinflation and Brazil has had hyperinflation in the past. How about Japan?

30:00 I don't know of any hyperinflation in Japan in its history to the level that we're talking about, which is really, you know, in Brazil, the hyperinflation was your money was worth less by the afternoon. When I went there the first time, it was during this era, and I was told to keep all my money in dollars and only cash the dollars in for to buy something at the very last minute. Okay. So that's, you know... But inflation basically hurts us. Everything gets more expensive but we don't necessarily immediately get higher wages. Yeah, that's one of the things that's a typical effect. Unless, you know, what happens is you get a bunch of labor contracts that come into play during a hyperinflation era where you essentially ratcheted automatically. So you do get higher wages. It's always going to trail though. You would think.

30:58 but the point is is that uh... it's not a situation you want but that would be what they would like i think is not that anyway i mean i know that's where i would be ludicrous uh... but what they'd like is uh... by the way talking about the zimbabwe my what we haven't gotten any trillion to ten trillion we'd stop getting the sample bills i still have a hundred billion i think i have no you have a trillion trillion right uh... some like i have the same bills like it was just i think that we lost our listener that was getting this is dead now He died of hunger. So they would like to get it to crank up a little bit because it's, well, essentially, because we've got the interest rates down at the bottom of the scale. So there's no control. If we go into a deflation thing, there's nothing, you know, there's

31:49 I don't know. I just think it's easier to control if you get like some sort of controlled inflation around 3-4% it would be nice. They think. So a couple of things change in this bill at the very last minute which was not aired on C-SPAN I might add. They had these you know they had these committee meetings and oh so here's the bill, let's sign it quick before anyone can read it. Remember we're supposed to put bills on the internet for three days? Whatever happened to that? Oh that was just another political lie. So in the bill they've decided, yep we've got to tackle the derivatives issue. Because as the president himself said, we have him on record, we played it on the show, the total derivatives market, which of course is a huge pile of fake,

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

Derivatives Market, Glass-Steagall and Sarbanes-Oxley

The hosts criticize the 2022 deadline for new derivatives regulations, arguing the delay renders the reform ineffective. They question why the Glass-Steagall Act was not reinstated to separate commercial and investment banking. Additionally, Sarbanes-Oxley is described as a protectionist bill for accounting firms that shifted the burden of proof onto corporate boards while failing to prevent fraud.

derivatives· glass-steagall· sarbanes-oxley· banking reform· c-span

32:34 is 600 trillion dollars. It's probably more. It's probably a quadrillion, but let's just say 600 trillion is the real number. They're going to start curbing this stuff and they want to change it. You know all this talk about we have to make it over-the-counter so it's trackable with an exchange. Well, they're going to do that. Do you know when, John? 2050 no 2022 you were close enough 2022 12 years from now it's like yeah everybody who's there now they don't give a crap I didn't know this this is very funny yeah it's like yeah we'll do it in that 2020 issues with this derivative stuff we got to do something about it yeah okay we'll do so good in that 2022 let me look at my actuary tables yeah I'll be dead two years by that so let me let me see where

33:23 Yeah, I'll have time in 12 years from now when I'm in Paraguay rich. So this is just funny. And I don't know where's the... You know what gets me is I don't know why they, and every time anyone brings it up they skirt the issue. Why didn't they just reinstitute Glass-Steagall? That's the situation. Another thing they could have done. Yeah, they didn't do that either. They could have done, that would have been easy to do in this. But no... Bill, here's what it used to be. Clinton repealed it by the way. got rid of it let's uh... put it back in play and if you listen if you listen to the president's speech it's all about are you know these horrible come companies who are gouging the consumer uh... with spine print you can't read and credit card fees and you know that and meanwhile it's it's

34:15 the majority of the bill is all about protection for the banks and what's going to happen is they're going to squeeze out the little banks, the little small community banks, they're going to get hosed because the bankers are now in charge. Is it really true that 60% of our GDP is banking? Is financial services? That's pretty pathetic. Yeah, so we're doomed. Yeah, I think so. I don't understand it, but that's just the way... I mean, these guys... I think it's almost like people are... it's a sinking ship, and so people are looking for the lifeboats and creating these phony bologna bills to protect themselves. I mean, this is the same kind of thing, like... I mean, this all began, in my opinion, with Sarbanes-Oxley, which showed that you could do this. I mean, Sarbanes-Oxley was a bill which is partially responsible for ruining the economy.

35:05 It's a bill that does nothing more than protect. It's a protection bill. It protects public accountancy. Certified public accountants are now, they can do whatever they want because they're protected because of Sarbanes-Oxley. Because they got their tit in the ring during the Enron and MCI and all these other crazy things that they did. Yeah, because they were approving all of their financial statements and they were basically lying. Yeah, and so they got blamed and a number of firms got busted and shut down and Arthur Anderson is gone. And so what you, so they said, what are we going to do? We can't have this happen again. So they came up with this crazy law which protects them. It's all it does. And it puts the, you know, the burden on the company, mainly the CEO and the board. Right.

35:54 So they have to be basically your own accountant and then you have to give these people money to sign something at the end of the day. They don't have to do any work anymore. It's ridiculous. So I know what we're doing wrong. We shouldn't be telling people that the financial meltdown is going to happen. That's why they're not sending us any money to support the show. They're holding on to it. Like screw that. And then... Oh God, this is my last dollar. And there was a great article in Bloomberg which I actually missed, it's from two weeks ago. Remember the United Nations came out with a report that said that a lot of the money from the banking industry came from drug money? And that actually that's what helped stop the complete financial meltdown? Well, by the way, this is an alert for the No Agenda book club people. If you ever get the chance to watch this, I have a copy for you. Or I may have given you a copy.

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

Wachovia Bank, Mexican Drug Money Laundering

Bloomberg Markets Magazine reports that Wachovia and Bank of America laundered hundreds of millions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels. The discussion references the documentary "Cocaine Cowboys" to illustrate the long history of banks being funded by illicit narcotics trade. The hosts contrast the lack of criminal prosecution for big banks with the strict financial tracking imposed on ordinary citizens.

wachovia· bank of america· money laundering· cocaine cowboys· bloomberg

36:47 of a documentary called cocaine cowboys I don't know it runs every so often on the independent networks and cocaine cowboys actually brings this to light even more than anything you're gonna possibly say because all the banks in Florida apparently were funded as money laundering operations in the seventies and much of the eighties because of drugs So, Bloomberg Markets Magazine in its August 2010 issue reports how Wachovia and Bank of America laundered drug money, hundreds of millions of dollars for Mexican cocaine trade.

37:31 Yeah, and you know, I'm like, you know, it's like I sent thirty three hundred dollars to my European PayPal account and it got frozen because of you know, and now the Swift regulations and you know, the little guy can't send anything anywhere because you're tracked in your in your God knows, you know, your phone is tapped. Oh, I might be sending money to terrorist organizations and we had now the United States can see all of the financial transaction records of the European Union that got signed into law, which by the way, kills me. It's hilarious. How did the Europeans put up with that? They don't give a crap. They're not, they're not there for the people. The people don't even know this, John. They don't even know this. And meanwhile, uh,

38:12 Wachovia admitted it did not do enough to spot illicit funds in handling $378 billion of Mexican currency exchange houses between 2004 and 2007. Yeah, we've got to do a better job. Yeah, yeah, we, we, gee, I can't believe we missed that. I can't believe we missed that half a trillion dollars. And Bloomberg is reporting on this. The banks are whitewashing, laundering drug money. Oh, who knew? I've talked to our vice presidents about it and now they're paying attention. Yeah, we're going to change all that. We're going to fix it. It won't be happening anymore. We're going to follow the rules. Bank of America takes its anti-money laundering responsibilities very seriously, says Shirley Norton.

39:09 Spokes whole for Bank of America. You know, can't someone go to jail? Just say if someone went to jail I'd at least feel a little bit better about it. No, no, that's not gonna happen. Now if it was a small banks in South Florida, you know, they even then I don't think if you saw that documentary I don't know anybody cocaine cowboys. It's not like a cocaine cowboys great great great doc. Well, I remember cuz back in this this must have been 80s This late 70s mid 80s something like that because I remember Doc McGee who was he's now manager for Gene Simmons Which is kind of sad. He's on that family jewels

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

Moscow Music Peace Festival, Doc McGee and Ozzy Osbourne

An anecdote regarding the 1989 Moscow Music Peace Festival explains how manager Doc McGee organized the event as part of a plea deal for drug smuggling. The story details the chaotic flight to Russia with bands like Motley Crue and Bon Jovi. A specific incident involving a heavily intoxicated Ozzy Osbourne on the chartered aircraft is recounted.

doc mcgee· moscow music peace festival· ozzy osbourne· bon jovi· motley crue

39:48 reality show but he at the time was one of the biggest managers in rock and roll he was managing Motley Crue and Bon Jovi and maybe even Ozzy Osbourne and he got caught smuggling 5,000 pounds of marijuana into Florida on his Learjet which is like I don't know what type Learjet it was but that must have been heavy and so he didn't go to jail but instead the judge said well I'll let you go but as a part of your you get out of jail free ticket, you have to do a number of anti-drug, anti-alcohol concerts. I thought you were going to say he has to do reality TV. Well no, this is 1988 and that's how I wound up in Russia actually because they had the Moscow Music Peace Festival

40:34 Which he organized and this is before the wall came down and so we went on a plane from Newark, New Jersey with those like Bon Jovi motley crew Ozzy Osbourne We stopped in Germany to pick up the Scorpions and then we did this show was like 10 days at Lenin Stadium in Moscow but the funniest thing was this plane which was a chartered plane, you know, like a Like it was like a DC something like a cigar tube really long and very uncomfortable particularly for that flight Everyone was hammered. It's like this was the anti-drug anti-alcohol Ozzy Osbourne I will not will never rid myself of him standing in the aisle because the the lavatory was occupied and he's going Sharon Sharon is someone in the loo and Sharon by the way was this fat little pudgy English chick with bad complexion

41:25 And Ozzy couldn't get in the bathroom and he peed himself right there, right in the aisle. You know, like a six-year-old, a huge stain in the front of his pants. It was just unbelievable. And that was the get out of drug free ticket that Doc McGee put together. Everyone was hammered the whole way through. And then Bon Jovi's doctor on the way back was handing Ad Halcyon to everybody. It'll help you sleep. I was like, oh, that'll help me sleep. I was messed up for two weeks. I was suicidal almost. So anyway, the point is end users of drugs are stupid because the real game is up at the top there. Yep.

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

Elizabeth Bentley, 1953 Meet the Press Soviet Spy Interview

The hosts review a 1953 archival clip from "Meet the Press" featuring Elizabeth Bentley, a former Soviet spy who defected to the FBI. Bentley's testimony in 1945 led to the identification of over 150 federal employees working for the Soviet Union. The discussion highlights the historical tension between the FBI and the OSS (the precursor to the CIA) regarding internal security.

elizabeth bentley· meet the press· fbi· soviet espionage· mccarthyism

42:02 and right there where the poppies are grown in protected by the agricultural division of our armed forces because we can moan and groan about this to help freezes over it doesn't make a bit of difference in obviously nobody thought much of our show last week so it's a it's like an interesting one sorry go ahead i picked up on uh... apparently they're running out of material on meet the press uh... so they played in all meet the press show from nineteen fifty three Do you notice the format of those early shows was very different where you had two desks and you have a desk on one side and that was the press and then you'd have a desk on the other side of the studio and that was the person who was meeting the press. Yeah and they were getting grilled. Yeah and it was cool and now it's like hey let's have a little powwow we'll have a little roundtable discussion.

42:49 Yeah, I know they never call anybody on anything. I mean, I remember the time that Cheney was on some years ago denying this and that and they said, oh, so what you said, no, I didn't. I never said that. Oh, OK, whatever. And then they went off to the next topic. And of course, Jon Stewart shows cheney you know could be changing saying exactly that whatever it was and then showing him denying ever saying it and that you know which is actually real yet real reporting their hello or as opposed to this this this kind of things script so uh... uh... but what was your guys let me know that it is to this yeah i do it so this is a bit of anti she was a uh... elizabeth bentley turned herself into the fbi and i do a little background she was a soviet spy uh... we didn't know that there was such a thing apparently the way she tells the story as soviet spies as soviet spies in during world war two they were in this country and it turns out that she uh...

43:46 Turned herself in in 1945 to become a government spy for the FBI or maybe even a double agent Nobody really knows but whatever the case was she Implicated something like 150 federal employees for all working for Stalin and largely a large part of the house on American activities stuff and a lot of other things were all ketchup and Because once it turned out that she was right, that there was all these spies in the government, everybody panicked and then you had McCarthy hearings and all the rest of it. And everybody got paranoid and thought there was a communist under every bed. And it's large part due to this woman.

44:24 Anyway, she, what's interesting if you look her up on Wikipedia, they mention that she was part of, you know, she was, she turns up into the FBI and apparently the FBI at the time was in conflict with the OSS, which is the first CIA, the precursor to the CIA. The precursor to the CIA because she had identified numerous people in OSS that were Soviet spies. They were very deeply embedded in our intelligence agency. And so the FBI wanted to take over all intelligence gathering. They didn't want there to be a CIA. They wanted to do it because they said you can't trust anybody. It sounds so much like this is a bunch of grown-up children who just were still playing Green Army men, doesn't it?

45:09 Well, you can play the Elizabeth Bentley thing. It's actually kind of interesting from a historical perspective. This is from 1953 on Meet the Press. Our guest on Meet the Press, ladies and gentlemen, is Miss Elizabeth Bentley, former Soviet spy. Can you explain how you got away with so much for so long and how others got away with it for so long? Were you fellows so clever or were we so dumb? Well, I would say it was a combination of the two. For one thing, Russia was considered our ally and presumably the intelligence people were concentrating on the Germans. For another thing, I don't think Americans in general knew too much about communist espionage methods.

45:46 They simply didn't expect that sort of thing. And for another thing, the communists worked very hard and took a lot of precautions to keep these things secret. When you went to the FBI in 1945, you said cold, I believe. What was your reception? Were they surprised to see you? Were they credulous? Were they any credulous? Did they doubt your work or did they accept you as a bona fide spy? Well, at first I couldn't tell whether they believed or disbelieved because they were extremely courteous but noncommittal. But later I was told about a month, I think, after I told them my story, one of them told me that they had been checking frantically and that they were amazed at the accuracy of it. Did they indicate they'd had no knowledge of your work before? Was it all brand new to them? Do you think... Well, now, they wouldn't have been likely to tell me that. You could tell by the expression on their face, couldn't you? No, because the FBI are good, trained intelligence agents and they keep poker faces.

46:41 Three years after her defection, Bentley, who became known as the Red Spy Queen, testified before Congress and gave evidence of widespread Soviet espionage in the United States during World War II. The Russian spies sent home this week appear to have uncovered little of value during their time in the U.S. And we'll be right back. You know, that's so funny. I want to be introduced that way as well. I am Adam Curry, former Soviet spy. That's a great, that's great. I like it. Didn't you hear the beginning of the report? Our guest on Meet the Press ladies and gentlemen is Miss Elizabeth Bentley, former Soviet spy. Yeah, Mr. Adam Curry, former Soviet spy. I'm gonna get business cards made. That's nice. So of course they had nothing, no guests, everyone's off in the Hamptons.

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Intelligence Contractors, Weekly Standard Report and Spy Movies

The Weekly Standard is set to release a series on the expansive use of private contractors within the U.S. intelligence community since 9/11. The hosts link this trend to the promotion of spy films like "Salt" starring Angelina Jolie. They also note the cancellation of the latest James Bond film and the shift toward video game production for the franchise.

weekly standard· intelligence contractors· salt· james bond· jason bourne

47:32 Or at Camp David. And so they just pulled out, oh this will relate. Yeah, they do a little database search. Spies, spies, spies. There's a bunch of services apparently that have cropped up recently which are being used by Rachel Maddow and Olbermann and Stewart to site-stack. They have all the old archives. People have have finally catalogued these things you know old the archives of video because you know video is difficult to catalog because it's video you don't have you know there's not a Search yeah, yeah So people have had to document these things to an extreme and now they have keyword searches and you can get clips from like, you know, the mid 50s to right to the present. And so you can put together some pretty funny things if you just want to get clips from, you know, guys saying stupid stuff. So here's a relatable story about the whole spy thing. The Weekly Standard is coming out on Monday with a series, a damning series I tell you,

48:35 about the intelligence community's expansive use of contractors since 9-11. Yeah, I've heard about this. This is a story that's been developing for the past year or so. And so of course, you know, I think the number one thing that you might not want to do if you want to have a real tight intelligence community is use contractors. It doesn't seem like a really good policy. I know. It's just to save money and to do less 1099s. It's not to save money, it's to waste money on jabroni friends. Who all set up a little... No, no, I'm saying the rationale is to save money. Yeah, right. If somebody asks you why you're doing it, you say, well, it saves money. Well, everyone knows it doesn't save money. Everyone knows it's just to funnel money to your buddies. Everyone sets up a little consultancy.

49:26 That's all these guys who are appearing on CNN and Fox and you know they're all CIA this guy for CIA intelligence consultants. Yeah. Big joke. Really is a big joke. And we still and that's why these spy movies you know we've got of course we have Angelina Jolie coming out with salt. Which is, I have to say, that is still kind of the best timing with the whole Russian story, so that, you know, the whole Russian spy story, that's still... And that movie is not necessarily a slam dunk, so maybe she needed a little bit of promotion there. Yeah, she probably did. Oh, and by the way, we were trying to find out if maybe a James Bond movie was coming out, and it turns out that the latest James Bond movie was cancelled. However, there will be a new James Bond video game.

50:16 With all the actors are doing all the voices, etc. So that also that you know the Russian spy story. Well, there's also going to be another Jason Bourne movie. Oh, of course. That's the description written and approved apparently and the same guy who wrote the other Bourne movies and who curiously did the Michael Clayton movie. Anyway, this guy's got the fourth movie out and that'll probably pick up the slack because it's a spy kind of, but he's like a consultant if you think about it. Yeah, totally, totally. Maybe sets up shop. Maybe the fourth Bourne movie actually sets up shop as an accountancy. So as we start to move into the end of this first hour, Columbia President Lee Bollinger

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

Columbia University, Proposed Media Czar and Journalism Reform

Columbia University President Lee Bollinger's Wall Street Journal op-ed proposing a "mixed" public-private news system is analyzed. The hosts interpret this as a move toward establishing a government-controlled "Media Czar" or a "Ministry of Truth." They argue that such a system would undermine the free market's role in providing independent news coverage.

lee bollinger· wall street journal· media czar· journalism· ministry of truth

51:11 is joining as this article states the drumbeat of those proposing to fix the news. And on July 14th in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, Bollinger says, hey, you know, we really need to do it now. And you can just watch out for this because we're going to have a media czar in Washington very, very soon. I'm not sure who it's going to be. And it would be funny if it was Rupert Murdoch, because that would only solidify my assertion that the Democrats run Fox. Yeah, it's funny, but he wouldn't take the job. So he envisions the future of American journalism as a mixed system. Part public, part private. Because you know, what is the quote here? We can't... trusting the market alone to provide all the news coverage we need would mean venturing into the unknown. A risky proposition with a vital public institution hanging in the balance.

52:09 This is the biggest crock I've ever heard. This is double talk, double speak. Well of course it is, but this is the Columbia University. This is a professor. Trusting the market alone to provide all the news coverage we need. Yeah well Columbia's done everything they can to screw up journalism in this country and I suppose why would they stop now? But isn't the Columbia School of Journalism the... Yes, the number one school of journalism in the country. So you watch, we will have a media czar. Obama will create this position and we're going to have the absolute ministry of truth. It's really happening and we're still kind of laughing about it. Double speak, 1984, Orwellian,

52:49 But it's actually happening and and you know and and well yes you predict riots but everyone's just sitting there aspartame and and fluorided into submission. I like aspartame. Aspartame and fluoridated into submission. I was like oh yeah whatever medias are yeah that's good. So if... Without the aspartame that's the way they're gonna react. You know there was a report about aspartame. Where was it? This was uh Really crazy, you know this whole aspartame if you don't know the history you can hunt around for it But aspartame essentially I think the company was a part of Monsanto before it spun out I'm not sure. Yeah, I believe it was but then Donald Rumsfeld was the CEO of the company that made aspartame They were rejected by the FDA three or four times They tried to get aspartame approved and then when Bush came in Bush senior and appointed

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

Aspartame Health Risks, Premature Birth Studies

A study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition links aspartame consumption in pregnant women to a significantly increased risk of premature birth. The hosts review the history of aspartame's approval by the FDA under Donald Rumsfeld's leadership at G.D. Searle. They express concern over the widespread presence of the sweetener in food and beverage products despite these health findings.

aspartame· monsanto· nutrisweet· premature birth· fda

53:47 Rumsfeld into his cabinet all of a sudden, oh Aspartame is approved. So researchers... Yeah, Monsanto in 1984 bought G.D. Surly and the Aspartame business became a separate Monsanto subsidy, you're right. The NutriSweet company. So let me just... Sold it to J.W. Childs in the year 2000. So the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded that pregnant women who drink a liter of light soda or lemonade a day that has aspartame in it have a 78% increased risk of giving birth prematurely before the 37th week of pregnancy. 78%!

54:28 That's ridiculous. Pregnant women who drink... This stuff should be taken off the market for that reason alone. Pregnant women who drink just one glass of light products daily have a 38% increased risk of premature birth. There's also all kinds of other studies about it lowering testosterone in men which would explain why you and I are so gay, John. Hello! You cracked up the room here. But this shit is in everything. Otherwise I sound like a soprano. But this shit is in everything. Yeah, no, it's got to go. It's really, really, and this is just one study, but this seems like a pretty serious one. So here it is. It was approved in 74 in the EU in 1994.

55:24 They've they keep doing these studies and and you know everyone knows is bad But it's just like to have shut up slave just eat your guess eat your aspartame water. Yeah, but if drink fluoridate yourself So anyway, so yeah, okay, we're all doomed if you want the real truth As far as we can tell, and we certainly are no real journalists, but we do help a lot of people pick apart what's going on in the news. We help you see things differently. Before going to our pitch, I might as well play an advertisement segway that cracked up the family when we saw it.

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

MSNBC Lockup, Lipitor Commercial Juxtaposition

The hosts discuss a humorous editing coincidence on MSNBC where a segment of the prison documentary "Lockup" transitioned directly into a Lipitor advertisement. Both segments featured the phrase "wake-up call," which the hosts use to illustrate how advertising agencies leverage cultural memes and psychological triggers to sell pharmaceuticals.

msnbc· lockup· lipitor· advertising· wake-up call

56:08 This is essentially, there's a new show on MSNBC, or new, it's been on for a while. It's actually quite fascinating. There's two shows that are running on CNBC or MSNBC on their off hours. One of them is American Greed, which is an outstanding thing to watch. That's on MSNBC, I think. American Greed. I think that's on CNBC. But whatever, it's the same company. And the other one is Lockup. Oh yes, I've seen that one as well, yeah. Of jail. But anyway, here's a segue of some crazy... they're talking to some crazy women and the segue ends the lockup thing and goes into a Lipitor commercial but they... but it's just too funny the way they juxtapose the outro to the intro. Well, a lot of people don't like cops. Especially inmates.

56:57 Coming up... Since I've been here, I found out two of my friends have died in a heroin overdose. An inmate on Maricopa's female chain gang gets a wake-up call. A few years ago I got a wake-up call. A heart attack at 57. This is no coincidence by the way. This is not a wake-up call. I got a wake-up call, you got a wake-up call, I got a wake-up call. This is no coincidence. And the funny thing is, so you're there with your family. Was this when you were up north? When you guys saw them? No, it was just like a couple days ago. Everybody's here. But what's so nice about it is when the whole family listens to No Agenda,

57:38 Then you can all kind of have these little private moments and laugh when this stuff happens, and it does bring your family closer together. Well, in a cynical way. Yeah, but still, we're uniters, John. We are uniters. We're uniters. We bring people closer together. So, yeah, so you're gonna get your media czar and your ministry of truth will tell you what's right and what's wrong. And you'll get a wake-up call, all right. Yeah, I'll get a wake-up call. You'll get a wake-up call. You're gonna get a wake-up call.

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

Listener Donations, Birthday Shoutouts and Knighting

The hosts acknowledge several donations from listeners in Zurich, Ohio, New York, and Florida. They provide birthday wishes for "Ma Bird" and Kevin Collyar as requested by their families. Mention is made of the Morning Comics competition at the San Diego Comic-Con and the ongoing "nighthood" layaway program for significant contributors.

donations· zurich· new york city· comic con· birthdays

58:14 And we'd appreciate it if you supported this show. Hopefully to a higher level than we received for today. Yeah, that was a terrible week and I wish people would realize that they have to step up their game a little bit. We did get some people that donated, contributed. Felix Schutel, who has contributed before from Zurich, $100. And Claudia Gerber, who's also contributed before from Elizabeth, Ohio, $100. edges have as who uh... is contributed before and he gave us uh... from new york city that's sixty six ten another pair of rocks on the dime for his publishing company vertical ink will be at the san diego comic con next week anybody going there could go uh... take a look in support of morning comics competition that's ed chavez jay pickard uh... port saint lucie florida double nickels on the dime uh... here we go

59:10 Actually we can do these two back-to-back. The other one is Margie Lou Collier from Wenatchee. So Jay says, Crackin' Buzz or Buzz and Crack this donations for Ma Bird who's celebrating her third or fourth 39th birthday on the 18th. Happy birthday from Jay Bird and Cindy and thanks guys for all your good work. And then Margie Lou Colliar, my husband Kevin Colliar is turning 30 this Sunday the 18th of July. I'd like to send him my love and wish him a happy birthday in the morning. Check out his website

59:49 Kevin.colyar.net. Thank you very much from Margie Lou. Thanks to both of you for the donations and happy birthday everybody from your friends at No Agenda. And then we got another $50 from Podcast for Peace from Sir Gerlach. and uh... then we had picked up our couple nighthood layaway some uh... lorry corpion john petruchini and that's a that summarizes the uh... the uh... slow week in the say in the middle of july so the vorac dot org slash and a can also go to know agenda show dot com or if you're uh... in a region where some of these websites might be filtered for objectionable content like the truth uh... you can go to channel the vorac dot com slash and a

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Mothership Boarding Pass, 33.33 Subscription Model

A new subscription initiative is introduced, offering listeners a "boarding pass" to the "mothership" for a $33.33 donation. The passes will be serialized and include seat numbers, playing into the show's long-running theme of an alien-assisted escape from Earth. The hosts discuss the technical implementation of the numbering system to ensure exclusivity for donors.

boarding pass· subscription· mothership· tall blondes· alien escape

1:00:36 and show your support there. As always, highly appreciative of the $5 a month donations. You might not get mentioned because, you know, the list is over 20. But that eventually will be what sustains us. But I don't think we got any new Now what are we doing? We had a couple of initiatives. We're going to do a drive this next week to get people to subscribe to our new idea which is the 3333 subscription for the mothership boarding pass.

1:01:12 So I've got talking to a couple of PHP guys and we're gonna have someone so they get when they get their Donation in they get the boarding pass by email with a serial number. It's the serial number That's the hang-up guy when everyone have their own numbered boarding pass Otherwise, it's not a real boarding right and and you get a seat number as well, right? It's not just a serial number. You get a seat number and not as open seating. This is pretty It's like a bus Southwest of evacuation space first come first serve you come early get in line, you know, you get your boarding pass boom you go on We should do it by zone It'd be five four or five zones in the zone a That's great

1:01:57 And that's the future do it yourself and will we be selling beverages on board John? Starve to death while you're on this thing bring your own not even water screw it bring your own crap actually Maybe we even have that stand-up thing they keep talking about you know seats where your standing room only seats Which by the way is bogus, but you know hold on to a strap Around your neck But but it is an official boarding pass they will be numbered so in the event that the, and let's face it, if the tall blondes or the greys are gonna contact anybody for an escape, it's gonna be me. Yep. And we know that for sure. And so I'll say, okay. You're the vaporizer. It's me, but I've got a thousand of my buddies, and they've all got a boarding card. And they'll be, okay, okay, that is good. Former Soviet spy Curry, that is good.

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Weather Modification Inc, Silver Iodide and EPA Pollutants

Following a severe hail storm in Calgary, the hosts investigate Weather Modification Inc., a company contracted for cloud seeding. They highlight that the EPA classifies silver iodide as a hazardous substance and a toxic pollutant. The discussion focuses on the potential health risks of chronic exposure to cloud-seeding chemicals, including skin discoloration and respiratory issues.

weather modification inc· cloud seeding· silver iodide· epa· calgary

1:02:56 So, dork.org slash NA and probably have that link for the 3333 open tomorrow or tonight and then we'll send a mailing out to remind people. So, there's this company John called Weather Modification Inc. Yeah, I saw this site too. Well, I just want to ask you a question. So, there was a storm a week ago, no last Monday. that pounded Calgary with hail-sized golf balls, which would have been even worse if this... Hail-sized golf balls? Hail the size of golf balls. That would suck if they were golf balls. Hey man, stop putting golf balls in the clouds. Golf ball-sized hail. Which would have been worse, I guess, softballs and or basketballs or perhaps large melons

1:03:47 if this company, Weather Modification Inc., had not been seeding the clouds at 20,000 feet. And I'm not going to play the video because it's kind of boring and it's almost like a little PR thing for the company. So besides the obvious question is, you know, who, I guess the taxpayers up there in Gitmo Nation, Great White North, pay for this? They are spraying a substance known as silver iodide. Yeah, that's the common cloud seeding mechanism. It's been going on. I remember when that started when I was a little kid. I remember that. Okay, and I just did a Wikipedia, which of course is the Bible. And safety. Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act, and I believe that hail is made of water,

1:04:42 by the EPA. Silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant and a toxic pollutant. Chronic ingestion of iodides may produce iodism which may be manifested by skin rash, runny nose, headache, irritation of the mucous membranes, weakness, amnesia, loss of weight, general depression. General depression, chronic inhalation or ingestion, oops I clicked away, may cause Argyria? Argyria? I don't know. Characterized by blue-gray discoloration of the eye, skin and mucous membranes. Oh, that's from the silver. It just seems to me, John, that if this silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance by the EPA and it's being put into clouds and it is then hailing on us, I mean, is that crazy to think that maybe that's not good?

1:05:43 Well, I think that's why it's not done much in the United States anymore. I didn't know that they would... Says you, but okay. So, but I guess in Canada, they find it... I don't know. I have no idea. I'd have to look into it. Maybe I should email the CEO of the cloud company, whatever that thing was called. Weather Modification. Weather Modification Inc. Let's email the CEO and ask him. What's the deal? And let him tell us and then we'll report back. And well, and also I'd like to know if it's happening in the United States. He probably would know. I would like the EPA to respond if this is okay, seeing as it's, they say that it's a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant. Yeah, they're probably, I'm sure there's something to do with the parts per million or something. And that it can cause general depression, which of course is completely offset by pristine. I might add.

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Lipitor Advertisement, FDA Warnings and Side Effects

The hosts play and critique a Lipitor television advertisement, noting the extensive list of required FDA warnings regarding liver problems and muscle pain. They discuss the marketing strategy of using "hapless dad" tropes to sell statins. The segment emphasizes the contrast between the drug's promised benefits and its potential for serious side effects.

lipitor· fda· cholesterol· liver problems· heart attack

1:06:39 Sorry what brother Here's the ad by the way, I keep referring to it, but I don't think we've ever played this Lipitor ad I think I've referred to it a couple of times. It's the one where they Where the dad the hapless dad which is a theme in some of these commercials the one where the kid says? Listen dad you should listen John we did this two weeks ago. We don't know the two weeks ago One was not the Lipitor ad it was the other one Dude, you know, like you've had too much silver iodide, man. You look at the Clifflips and you won't see Lipitor ad two weeks ago. You'll see that other company I referred to in the Lipitor ad at the time. Okay, let's listen to it. Let's listen to it. See if we recall it. A few years ago, I got a wake-up call. A heart attack at 57. That was a rough time? My doctor told me I should have been doing more for my high cholesterol. You should have listened.

1:07:41 You're right. Now I'm eating healthier and I trust my heart to Lipitor. When diet and exercise are not enough, adding Lipitor may help. Lipitor is FDA approved to reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke in patients who have heart disease or risk factors for heart disease. Lipitor is backed by over 18 years of research. Lipitor is not for everyone. including people with liver problems and women who are nursing, pregnant or may become pregnant. You need simple blood tests to check for liver problems. Tell your doctor if you are taking other medications or if you have any muscle pain or weakness. This may be a sign of a rare but serious side effect. My dad learned the hard way.

1:08:20 But you may be able to do something. Have a heart to heart with your doctor about your risk and about Lipitor. It's like, hey man, people are waking up to like the evil ways of the world. Let's give them a wake-up call with Lipitor. Yeah, wake-up call, wake-up call, this is good. Yeah, wake-up call, but it's not about that. Uh-uh, it's about your blood pressure. Lipitor, your wake-up call to hijack.

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

Leonard T. Miller, Diversity in Auto Racing History

Author Leonard T. Miller appears on C-SPAN to discuss his book "Racing While Black," where he criticizes the modern "diversity" movement for erasing the long history of African American participation in auto racing dating back to 1910. Miller argues that the current focus on being the "first" ignores previous pioneers. The hosts analyze the audience's positive reaction to his critique of "diversity crap."

leonard t. miller· c-span· auto racing· black history· diversity

1:09:05 It's possible That's what that's what advertising is all about I mean, that's take memes and propagate them and use them for your own benefit I'm talking about memes. I got another clip here. That's kind of off the wall. I was watching C-Span Oh, should we just play we haven't actually done that here we go. It's what we do so you don't have to C-Span I think that jingles actually off-key Here comes It's a little flat Did that I don't know it's our producers do all this stuff man. I love them for it I don't give a crap if it's off-key. It's great this guy wrote the book racing while black Leonard T Miller was on a on a It was the Harlem Book Festival. There's all these black. She spent three oh

1:10:09 It's actually this was on C-SPAN 2 because I don't get C-SPAN 3. Okay, but whatever the case was he came on and he had and he made this comment about diversity that and this is the where this audience is all probably pretty much mostly black people and if you know a few A couple of Arabs were there, but I didn't know what the point of that was. But when he made this comment, I didn't really expect him to get a... not a lot, but he got a smattering of applause and some sort of other stuff, which indicates to me that the whole concept of diversity may not be rubbing the black community in the right way. But listen to this complaint that he has.

1:10:52 Publishers, which sometimes could take years to find a publisher if you're unknown to get your, you know, first book published. Well stop for a second. And also just... That by the way is a California black accent. Okay. For people who don't want to know where that voice is. Northern California perhaps, not Southern California. It's a real, it's a California black. Anyway, go ahead. Okay. And also, just to tailor on the other gentleman's question of channeling anger and your question, our books, we wanted to tell our stories because auto racing, African American auto racing is reinvented every seven years. You'll have phony African American team owners come into the sport, not only NASCAR, but IndyCar racing and a lot of different sports, and they'll omit

1:11:45 other efforts that happened before them. And I'm not talking about 50 years. And African-American history, racing history goes back to 1910. They'll omit history that happened last week. So if you don't tell your story and get it out there around the world, and I've had interviews in China... Are you sure this isn't Urkel? That's what he sounds like. Sounds like Urkel. Our story will be wiped off the map. So you have to persevere. I didn't go to school to be an English major to write books. I had a story to tell. Now let me see if I understand this. So he's saying that the history of black racing, automobile racing,

1:12:51 is being written out or is not being reported in the history books. Yeah, he says it's been written off and every time, that's why he says it keeps getting reinvented, the next guy comes along, claims, and now I'm the first this and I'm the first that. And you run into this with black history a lot where somebody had has been doing this in the 1920s or the 1910s and they just get marginalized and because everything has to be taking place now and he kind of implies that maybe this has something to do with it, you know with the white promotion of the so-called diversity, which is a modern

1:13:29 which is a modern concept that takes, you know, wants to take credit for everything. So all progress is a direct result of diversity and all the rest. And he calls it diversity crap and gets a round of applause from this black audience. I mean, wait, what? This is a little sociology I'm unaware of. I can't wait for the book on basketball where Larry Bird is written out. Because you know, who knows Larry Bird? We've forgotten about him. It's black, white, red, yellow. Who gives a crap? But anyway, the point is that there is a underlying, there's another subtle sociology. How about women in racing? Well, there's always been women in racing too. That's the curious thing about it. Yeah, but meanwhile...

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

Freedelity Belgium, Biometric Federal ID Loyalty Cards

A program in Belgium by the company Freedelity allows citizens to use their federal biometric ID cards as retail loyalty cards. The hosts discuss the privacy implications of integrating government identification with consumer tracking systems. They also note grammatical errors on the company's English website and clarify that German is an official language of Belgium.

freedelity· belgium· biometric id· rfid· loyalty cards

1:14:18 Meanwhile, Danica Patrick's the first as Danica Patrick's not the first she is well I don't think she was the first he's the first ever. Hey that Fidelity card the loyalty card that I got like freaked out about on Thursday show. This is the the program in Belgium which is starting up that enables the use of your federal ID card your registration which includes biometrics and And has a chip on it, and I'm sure it has RFID qualities as well. Maybe unpublished That you can use that in almost any or in many stores And I'm sure ultimately all stores as a loyalty card it really turns out to be true Yeah, in fact. I got a memo. I don't know if you're you may not have been copied on this from the CEO Oh, no, no, no you talked for a freedility. Yeah, I

1:15:10 and he apparently listens to the show and he was very high on this idea. Hey, wait a minute. Why doesn't the guy send us some money? Well, I'm waiting for money from him, but the other thing is I think I'm gonna get some cards from him. Oh, God. I think we need a couple of these cards. Yeah, yeah. As long as mine says Adam Curry, former Soviet spy, then I'm fine with it. No, but I was amazed and I have to say, you know what the thing that really threw me off as I was looking at their website, freedelity.be, is the English translation had some glaring grammatical errors in it. And that's why I thought this has got to be phony.

1:15:48 Can you find in in the hoaxes coming out of China and hoaxes hoaxes Nigeria? But it's it so first of all the CEO of Friedelity check your English because you have some glaring errors on your on the English version of your page and I might point out that I made a mistake and I said, why is this in German? Because it has three languages English Dutch and German Yeah, I guess you got called on that one. I didn't German is actually an official language of Belgium Yeah, who knew and I've lived there. Well, I lived in one part of it, but I've heard plenty of French I've heard plenty of Dutch or Flemish I've never heard anyone speak German to me in Belgium, but it's an official language. Maybe that's a throwback to the Second World War or something. I don't know. It's weird

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

EU Data Retention, Privacy Law Violations

Reports from Europe indicate that several EU member states are violating data retention laws by keeping citizen information for up to 10 years, far exceeding the 24-month legal maximum. The hosts characterize the European Union as a high-surveillance environment ("Gitmo Supreme") where privacy regulations are frequently ignored by state authorities.

european union· data retention· privacy· gitmo nation· surveillance

1:16:38 So along the United Nations of Europe, Gitmo Nation Supreme there, some reporting coming from the lowlands that the European Union member states are all breaking the law on their retention of data. And of course, you know, there's always these laws like, oh, yeah, we'll only keep it for 24 months or a year or whatever. And of course there's no one who actually checks and everyone to the law is written and goes, oh okay, ho hum, let me have another aspartame gum and I feel fine and who cares. And they've done some research, the privacy crackpots out there and it turns out that some countries are even have kept data up to 10 years, even though there's a maximum on any retention of data of 24 months.

1:17:31 And they just keep, oh whatever. Yeah, we'll look into it. We'll fix it. 10 years retention of your data. That place is Gitmo supreme, man. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, it's going to be for a laugh. Maybe the population will rise up and burn down the computer centers. No, I don't think. I got a short picture of that. So we got a lot of email as well. and it makes so much sense. Boy, how could we have missed this one? So of course after, and you remember the frenzy, the media storm about Toyotas with accelerators sticking and people dying and Prius and Lexus. Right, and we were suspecting from the beginning that it was something to do with some politics. Financial. We thought it was financial related to Japan. Political. Yeah, but Japan had just said, oh, we're not going to buy it. We thought it was about the bonds. Buy the T-bills, exactly.

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

Toyota Recall, Japan Airbase Deal and Driver Error

The NHTSA's conclusion that the Toyota "unintended acceleration" crisis was largely due to driver error is discussed as a political resolution. The hosts argue the timing of the report coincides with a new agreement between the U.S. and Japan regarding the Okinawa airbase. They suggest the entire safety scandal was a form of economic and political pressure applied to the Japanese government.

toyota· nhtsa· okinawa· yukio hatoyama· driver error

1:18:27 And boy did we miss it, because of course the Prime Minister resigned. The Prime Minister of Japan resigned over the base in Okinawa, where by the way there was an earthquake as well during that whole fracas. Yeah, and so that probably the earthquake guys listen to our show. They said geez these idiots don't even get it Let's put a little earthquake over there then Adam for sure will spot that we're reminding them but no Adam In fact, they're doing it just for our benefit. Yeah, they're actually they're sitting there with their with their earbuds and their iPods Listen to crackpot and buzz. Yeah, man. I heard that you know, hey, yes, put coordinates over here. Look over here. They put it quite

1:19:08 These guys are idiots, these two guys. What do we have to do? Turn it up to five! So the new Prime Minister comes in and he makes a deal with Obama about the Okinawa Islands. So about the airbase there, he makes a deal which is sketchy at best, but we're definitely not leaving. It hasn't really been, you know, been published what exactly is happening and the Okinawa inhabitants hate the US airbase. There's been all kinds of shenanigans going on and you know, it's just bad vibe all around up there, over there, over yonder.

1:19:47 And so it's all taken care of and then all of a sudden the government, I might add, the government, the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration says... Driver error yeah, I know I love this out of the blue after all this rigmarole is bullcrap these chase scenes and these cops and these car to control cars and all this old hand-wringing they Do this deal the next thing you know they just say we're wrong all along. We're sorry bye Go away, and what is the term the error is between steering wheel and seat belt? I think that's the the term they use in the auto industry and

1:20:24 Meaning the driver and literally and it's just like and they just publish the report and and the news media goes Oh, okay. All right. Guess is true. Let me have another aspartame. I feel much better now Yeah, it's just passed right over Fine. Unbelievable. But that I think you almost can't deny that that is exactly what happened. I mean it's as clear as the earthquakes they set off to get our attention. Yeah. We'll be, by the way, earthquake guys, we'll be paying more close attention to these weird earthquakes. So I guess it was one in Washington DC like you mentioned earlier in the show that must be telling us something. I don't know what though.

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Bernie Madoff, New York Magazine Photo Illustrations

New York Magazine's feature on Bernie Madoff's life in prison is criticized for using "photo illustrations" rather than actual photographs of the inmate. The hosts suggest that the use of a look-alike in the imagery supports their theory that Madoff may have been swapped out or moved to a different location. They question why a major publication would rely on staged photos for a news story.

bernie madoff· new york magazine· photo illustration· prison· ponzi scheme

1:21:09 We got to think things just screwed up in Washington. Okay, gee yeah, really? Flip the button somewhere where I have to think about it. It was a funny Funny observation one of our producers made New York magazine Has an article on Bertie Madoff's life in prison Bertie Madoff of course the the Madoff Ponzi scheme and John you and I pretty much you know he had to go to the infirmary and you know we're thinking this guy is already in Paraguay. Yeah he's been swapped out. He's already been swapped out. So that so here's two things that are very interesting. By the way the guy that's in there now will get cancer very shortly. Well check this out. So the title of the the headline is Bertie Madoff free at last.

1:21:55 Yeah, I saw that and the subtitle in prison. He doesn't have to hide his lack of conscience In fact, he's a hero for it. But the then there's a picture of him on a cot in jail with the hairdo but It this the the caption says this and the following image are photo illustrations Any resemblance to Bernie Madoff is not coincidental. So this is not even Bernie Madoff. I Yeah, isn't that a weird... where was that? Where did that run? I forgot. New York Magazine! Oh, it was in New York Magazine, right, with these photos of this Bernie Madoff look-alike. But it literally says, this and the following image are photo illustrations. Any resemblance to Bernie Madoff is not coincidental. So it's not even the guy! The whole thing is... it's just... it's mind-boggling. I mean, are they just trying to shove it in my face and laugh at me now? Apparently, yeah. It's just unbelievable.

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

Bret Michaels, Celebrity Apprentice and American Idol

The hosts analyze an interview with Bret Michaels on the Joy Behar show where he appears to slip up regarding the "fix" on Celebrity Apprentice. Michaels' recovery from a brain aneurysm and subsequent win are characterized as a scripted "Cinderella story" designed to boost ratings. The discussion also covers Michaels' public campaign to become the next judge on American Idol.

bret michaels· celebrity apprentice· american idol· joy behar· donald trump

1:22:55 Why couldn't they get a real picture of Bernie Madoff? Well, they wouldn't get the lighting wouldn't be right Yeah, okay nice They can't leave him in the cell with Bernie because Bernie may go berserk and kill him. After watching that lock-up show, anything's possible. The Ministry of Truth has really been blowing it out of control. Talking about sitting around with the family where everyone's enlightened to some extent and they catch stuff. You got your wake-up call, man. My wife caught this one. Brett Michaels, who we've already discussed on this show to an extreme,

1:23:33 uh... who's now trying to get become the third judge on the american idol show these days for moaning himself he was on joy behar and he slips up and and and starts talking about if i was going to win the apprentice of i'm gonna win i mean i mean i mean i mean if i was going to be in the finals uh... he had it was like he had a way where i'll confuse now is this so Is this before? No, this is after. So this is after he already won Celebrity Apprentice. Yeah, and she and Bayhar's having a nice chat with him and he's trying to and he even says I have to phrase this correctly because apparently he's not the brightest guy in the world and he keeps flubbing up. Okay, let me just then let me recall because we had do have new audience members.

1:24:18 And this was just one of those crazy calls almost like me calling the Spain the winner of the World Cup three weeks before it happened when people weren't even thinking of Spain. Brett Michaels had this brain aneurysm, all this stuff was horribly wrong and I immediately, like the same day or the next day on the show said, watch this Cinderella story, he's coming back and he'll win Celebrity Apprentice and the reason I knew it is because Trump was on the morning show or the early show I think CBS or whatever that maybe was ABC whatever whatever network at Airs on and he was so cavalier and like oh, yeah You know, I hope he pulls through but you know Brett's a strong guy He would never have done that if it was really a situation that was really really life-threatening and Trump I mean Trump is no idiot. He plays his cards very well and to know that the

1:25:13 uh... that the ratings were slipping dramatically of apprentice in fact they were beat out by a what's the at the family guy spin-off show the cleveland show Which is the worst thing possible. So he was beaten by the Cleveland show and so it was easy to call because if you know how media works, it's like, oh, it's obvious. The fix is completely in. So we presume that that was a fix and lo and behold, Cinderella recovery, even Holly Robinson, who was doing so great and raised more money, even she said, I'll let him win. I mean, it was like so obvious. Like, okay, he's going to win. Perfect. Beautiful. Now I have two clips here, which one are I supposed to play? Well the first one is the Brett Michaels on Trump where he slips up and he makes mention, he kind of expresses himself in a funny way because first he's talking about how he has to be careful what he says and how he says it. Then he talks about winning and then he says I mean if I can get into the finals. So he says if I'm going to win, if I'm going to win, oh I mean if I'm going to get in the finals. And Mimi immediately says that is, there he is, there's the whole slip up. The fix is in.

1:26:14 Alright, so we listen? Yeah. Couldn't have come at a worse time in my life And this is why because I already knew I'd been in New York and fought so hard to get to the finale of apprentice But obviously there's a break before you get to the we weren't sure if you'd get there. Yeah, no we're talking about all the time And I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna get there, but I was determined that if I won I

1:26:50 If I won, or not win, if I knew that I was going to be in the final two, I was going to do everything I could to get back after I got sick, and then I already knew I was doing American Idol, and I knew I was doing a tour. In fact, I was in the tour when it happened. And that's the thing for me. There's a song by Tim McGraw, a friend of mine wrote, it's called Live Like You're Dying. That's right. That's the way I live my life. I cannot, I've played shows, I broke my finger in the morning, played a show. In the morning, he said in the morning. He said in the morning, I'll take that clip. So he also said something else and he says I already knew. Did you hear that early on? Yeah, yeah, of course, because he already knew. Okay, and then if I was gonna win, if I was gonna win, I mean, if I was gonna get in the finals. The finals, right. This was just terrible. But Behar's even trying to help him out. She's even saying, you mean the finals, uh, Brett, the finals, Brett. Yeah, I mean, it was, this was pathetic. And Brett and Mike, I like the guy. I, you know, I, I, I met him several times, hung out. He's a sweet boy. He really is a sweet boy.

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

Simon Cowell, American Idol Judge Replacement Pitch

Bret Michaels' pitch to replace Simon Cowell on American Idol is examined. Michaels argues that the show needs an "original" rather than a "knockoff" of Cowell. The hosts suggest that the Joy Behar show serves as a "farm team" or testing ground for celebrities to practice their media pitches before moving to larger networks.

simon cowell· american idol· bret michaels· joy behar· reality tv

1:27:45 and absolutely sweet guy but uh... not not the brightest lamp in the and the chandelier essentially told it he had basically confirmed your belief from the get-go but it was like a he was going to do this he can't seem to uh... he's got busy givens scripts and he tries to follow miss best he can it so his next script is to be the net the next judge on american idol and so he's got a pitch that he has which he tells, which I believe the Joy Behar show is used by some of these people to practice. Right, it's like the farm team. This is where you go to... Yeah, you go on there, you practice your pitch, you see how it goes over because they know her audience is a very specific type of audience that they can measure and so he goes on and so he's working on his pitch to become, to rationalize being chosen because I guess, I think he may have already been chosen but to rationalize being chosen as the next judge

1:28:38 on American Idol which you already mentioned on the Trump clip but here's his pitch if you want to hear it in advance. Here's the thing, Simon, let me say this, Simon Cowell what happened was that night no one had talked to me at all about being a judge on American Idol. The night you were there, yeah. The night I was there. We got done, it was a great, you know, I felt like it was a great performance. We cut the song in half because I wasn't quite all there yet and but the performance was great, the audience, it was the only standing ovation we got in the night which is killer and What happened with Simon Cowell made a really nice comment after the show. He just said Brett would be a great replacement He's lived it. He's has lived this life. Yeah, what he's lived Simon Cowell's life of hookers and blow And listen, I think the biggest mistake that American Idol can make whether they choose me or not Simon Cowell's an original brutally honest, but an original he made that show great and I don't know if you can survive without him

1:29:29 And I'm telling you, I feel that they won't, will not survive without him if they try to replace him with someone that's a knockoff of Simon Cowell. I think if they put someone on that show... Do you want to do it? I would love to do it. You would? I would really bring it to the table. Well, you're saying it here, so maybe... Yeah, I'm saying I would love to do it. I think as... I passionately love music and watching people perform... See, Joy slips a little thing in there. She says, you're saying it here. Now she's going to use that because of course she knows exactly what's going on. because everything is all set up behind the scenes and she's just saying that so that she can then later go back and say he said it here first on the joy behar show that's that's her payoff right there love music and watching people perform and play I can say to somebody like that hung kid which was that kids name bill hung the one that was kind of a joke right here's the thing I would say exactly what they say dude that is that his

1:30:22 I would say that is hilarious. I guess the show is not live as I thought it was. That's crazy. I would say, but let me just say this to add to that. I'd say here's the downside, right? The downside is that it's a novelty act and it's a one trick pony and he's wasting a lot of talented people's time. That's what I would say. Good luck, have fun, but you're wasting some people that have some talents. Okay, we're gonna have more with Brett. Alright. So, first of all, for people who are saying, why are they talking about Brett Meynckl? You need to understand it's not about Bret Michaels It's about how the media works and how everything is if you if they're doing this with Bret Michaels and by the way American Idol is a tremendous moneymaker this is just Unbelievable money that is being made with this and just shows you how it works how it is all set up set up in advance I love your your theory there John about the Joy Behar show being the testing ground which of course

1:31:26 Means I have to watch it more often. Sorry. Oh, geez, but yeah, no, okay, so good I think you've called it Brett Michaels to be the new judge of American Idol would make a lot of sense He's a singer and he's he always lived the life and you know, he's not a direct replacement. Yeah, it's great Yeah, I know the pitch was good. I liked it. I mean the pitch was obvious You don't want to knock off. You know what? You know, he's like it's a setup for nudity. Of course. He has to go and And perfect this pitch a little bit more and go on maybe the today show or something else. Yeah He's not he's not quite ready for the for the big times yet Yeah, but he'll have it done and then bingo, you know, they'll choose him and that's will be the end of it now Of course, you know if they realize that maybe he's a he's gonna not be any good or he's you know gonna fumble like he seems to be doing a little bit and

1:32:13 They made me go. It's alright, the show is all hacked up until it gets to the live finals. Yeah, it is all hacked up and that's a good example. By the way, good call on the bleep because you can't bleep a live show like that. And they don't put TV on a delay. uh... it's just not it's is not do a little part and by the way the fcc is ruled that uh... incidental uh... f bombs are okay now so that's all right he can say it as i was listening to the guy i was a c another c spencer one of these shows are the guy was discussing it was that it was the lawyer a camera which i was but it was the lawyer for fox who brought the suit and um... he says that even

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

FCC Profanity Rulings, Late Night Television Language

A discussion on FCC regulations reveals that profanity fines generally do not apply to broadcasts between 11 PM and 6 AM. The hosts note that while late-night hosts like David Letterman could legally use more explicit language, they choose to self-censor to avoid offending audiences. They also reference a recent court ruling involving Fox that challenged the FCC's authority over "fleeting expletives."

fcc· profanity· fox· david letterman· broadcasting laws

1:32:51 To this day, even though all these lawsuits about the $350,000 fine and all the rest of it, still never applied to anything between 11pm and 6am. He claims that to this day and it's always been the case that you can drop an f-bomb at 1130 after the waterfall. Yeah, yeah on the today show or the tonight show. Yeah, but he says nobody they choose not to do it and they will bleep it because they don't want to offend anybody. Right, but it is uh, it was still you know, he says all those things you see like on Letterman. Letterman's cussing constantly now on the show and they they honk a horn Heart heart well in the chat room just picked up on something that you and I both missed in that clip Brett says wasting talented people's time

1:33:36 You know, I heard that but I don't know, I didn't want to comment on it, but what was the... Well, who are the talented people on that show? The contestants? The staff? The judges? Who are the talented people on that? You're wasting talented people's time. Get off my show, you slave. Hey! Hey, by the way, by the way, John, what the hell? We didn't propagate today. I feel bad. I gotta do this for a minute. Hold on. Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth. I can't believe that we actually forgot to do that We didn't have any executive producers. Oh, that's why Well, we can still sing it all together now

1:34:22 Shut up, Sling! And stop wasting talented people's time! I think we should take that clip out and use it, stop wasting talented people's time. Stop wasting talented people's time, man. Hey, um, I got, uh, producer John, uh, From Gitmo Nation East and he will go only as producer John. He's also a Non douchebag. He's a he's been deduced Remember there was a Excuse me a couple of suppressed reports about the okay Nothing a little bit of fluoride won't fix There's been a lot of suppressed reports about tasers

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Taser Amnesia Study, Maryland Wiretapping Arrest

A suppressed study from the King Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles finds that 92% of people shocked by a taser experience total amnesia of the event. In a related story, a Maryland motorcyclist faces 16 years in prison under wiretapping laws for recording a police officer during a traffic stop. The hosts argue these developments protect police from accountability for misconduct.

tasers· amnesia· maryland· wiretapping· police misconduct

1:35:13 And he dug up a report that had been removed from the Ministry of Homeland in Gitmo East about, actually this is a study that was done in Los Angeles on taser use. Because now they're also talking about shotgun tasers, this is the latest thing, have you heard about these? So they shoot out of long distance. Yeah, but long distance. So it's not just like a handgun. It's a shotgun with a scope so they can get you from a real long distance. I don't know if it goes with wires or how it works. No, they tend to have these little wires. Yeah, well on the short range ones. And he dug up this study

1:35:53 And I think maybe I'll have to post the whole PDF. And he found it through archive.org, I think. Somehow he's able to... because it was removed for some obvious reasons. So this study was done at the King Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles. 92% of all patients who've been shot with a taser stated they had total amnesia about the event. 92%! And I think that is... I mean if you get shot with a gun, Like a bullet? You tend to remember it. In fact, they have some counter studies on that in this same document. But if you're shot with a taser, 92% of the people cannot remember the event, could not remember being subjected to the taser, and the report believes that this may reflect indirect consequences of the peripheral actions of the taser discharge on the central nervous system.

1:36:56 and uh... i'm thinking taser not so good was good if you're a policeman doesn't want to be uh... uh... you know you want to meet us to find a gesture under some circumstances you forgot i i don't mean right now i can recall article you know the work that works last blog and look up uh... uh... maryland i guess and but they're on the front page right now about the near the car some good kids driving along on this car or his bicycle motorcycle he's got a camera mounted on his head and he gets a movie of this idiot cop coming out with his gun pulled to give him a speeding ticket and he posted on YouTube and now he's up to now according to Maryland law it's like wiretapping and he's gonna get to 16 years in jail. Really? Yeah. Jesus. Who's gonna protest for this kid? Who's gonna help this kid get out of jail? Well you know the funny thing is the ACLU has not picked up the ball on any of this uh... you can't take that picture bull crap

1:37:55 and uh... it's it's becoming a problem in the these cops are you know if you got the captain take movies are you walking down the street there's no reason you can't take a pic movie of a cop walking on the show i don't think we do i don't see why it should be illegal uh... i don't know but anyway so this kind of thing is that the taser i think is that they've cops get will be a some of these cops get uh... was the words on the street that didn't give you a major just a z then shoot yet yeah I didn't play that clip last week. It was the G20 and there was a... I don't know if you saw that clip. The woman blowing bubbles at the police.

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G20 Bubble Blowing, Police Assault Claims

During the G20 protests in Toronto, a police officer threatened to arrest a woman for assault because she was blowing bubbles. The officer claimed that if a bubble touched him, it constituted a "deliberate act" of assault with a "detergent." The hosts use the clip to illustrate the aggressive and irrational attitude of law enforcement toward peaceful protesters.

g20· toronto· police· assault· detergent

1:38:35 No, I didn't see that clip. Actually, let me just grab that. Let me just play that for you because it so she's standing right in front of a couple of These cops who are protecting the elites in their elite Conference talking about how they're gonna fuck us all and by the way Somebody's some taxpayers are paying for those cops to be working overtime a billion dollars But listen listen to taxpayers should be in full revolt over this sort of thing. Yeah, but the Canadian I So, uh, so she's blowing bubbles and I want you to listen to this cop's attitude. And there is actually one guy who like kind of stands up for a second and then like says something and walks away swiftly. You gotta get in, you gotta get out. Yeah, he definitely got, got in and out real quick. Hold on. This is from, uh, the Real News, which actually is pretty good. So here she is blowing bubbles.

1:39:33 And there's actually a female cop who's standing on and who's kind of cute by the way and she's looking at her She's actually smiling, but then this cop next to her just goes off. Is this a mystery? No, I have nothing to hide. If the bubba touches me, you're going to be arrested for assault. Do you understand that? Yes, that's right. It's a deliberate act on your behalf. I'm going to arrest you. Do you understand what you're talking about? Right, you're going to be in handcuffs. All right? You either knock it off with the bubble, you touch me with that bubble, and you're going into custody.

1:40:09 Right? I'm putting it away. Right, thank you. But I would also like to know... You want to bait the police. Hold that on me or that other officer and it gets in her eyes. It's a detergent. You'll be going into custody. I understand that. Do we understand each other? I do. I'm an abatement. And put it away. I am doing that at this moment. Right. Let's put the bubbles in here. Discussion's over. Put it away, slave with those bubbles. Discussion's over. Do you understand me? If a bubble touches me, that's assault. It's a detergent! God, what an asshole! Yeah, exactly. And he doesn't sound Canadian. He sounds like a... He's probably some cop that was, you know, run out of the department in, you know, Macon, Georgia. Yeah. Or someplace where he used to beat people and then move it up to Canada. He's working there. I mean, he doesn't sound like a normal person. No. But you have to also see his face, man. It's just like, I'm gonna kick your ass with your bubbles, bitch. Those bubbles, it's an assault. So this big tough cop, big tough cop.

1:41:11 A bubble is a salt to him. To a big tough guy. That's right. That bubble, if it touches the other officer, it's a detergent. You're gonna be in handcuffs. Discussion is over, slave. Do you understand? So the human resource story of the day. This gives people a lot of respect for the police. Yeah. Oh yeah. You can't just stand there and just you know do his job. He has to be a... Remember when in the 60s John you would put daisies in the muzzles of the riot cops rifles? Yeah. I'm sure you did that. I'm sure you did that. Actually we got a couple reports from people who were saying hey man the cops like stealing from us. They arrest us.

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DARPA Human Power Harvesting, Kinetic Energy

DARPA and MIT researchers are developing technology to harvest electricity from the human body using heat and kinetic energy. The hosts compare this to the plot of "The Matrix," where humans are used as batteries. They suggest this technology will eventually be used to power wearable surveillance devices like GPS "scram" bracelets.

darpa· mit· kinetic energy· power harvesting· matrix

1:41:50 They throw us in jail and then all our money's gone. There's a yeah, there was a couple of we got any couple emails and one of them was one of them in particular was going on about I Forgot where this was we should I should have printed it out But anyway, apparently everyone who gets arrested or brought in they steal their money. Yeah, no, I actually have it here Jacksonville, Florida is what Captain Scott sent in and he said He has a long-winded story, but he was falsely accused of something. But the whole point is he and other people are finding that they get arrested, the cops take their stuff, and then they don't get their cash back. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Good cops and bad cops, always. DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, the people who actually invented the internet. Of course, Al Gore says that he did it, the oversex poodle.

1:42:45 Have come up with a way they believe to Suck power from the human being it's just a great story So yeah, so these little sensors is not news no, but I it's not for about this years ago It's not news, but it's Smithsonian. You know so it's it's a little more serious and And I think they're just setting us up. I mean this is the matrix. You know, we've got the, our bodies generate heat but also vibrations when we move it's kinetic energy and both forms can be converted into electricity and now MIT says yeah we're working on this, we have

1:43:25 We are working away to harvest adequate amounts of power from the human body and then direct efficiently direct it to the device that needs it which would be your scram bracelet I guess. Harvest I just love the word harvest harvest is good. Yeah, that's just a good associate you with the majors by the way You mentioned Al Gore and I have to bring up a pet peeve of mine Oh, do you want to what why we do the jingle up front then? You know Al Gore said he invented the Internet and I saw him say it so I'm just curious as to why Snopes

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Al Gore, Internet Creation and Snopes Debunking

The hosts debate the accuracy of Snopes.com regarding Al Gore's claim that he "took the initiative in creating the internet." While Snopes labels the claim that Gore said he "invented" the internet as false, the hosts argue that "creating" and "inventing" are functionally synonymous in this context. They express skepticism toward Snopes as a reliable source for political debunking.

al gore· snopes· internet· debunking· initiative

1:44:02 of all things, which is a debunking operation, claims that this is false. And let me just even read from Snopes. The claim is, Vice President Al Gore claimed that he invented the Internet. Status, false! And then it goes on to explain that he never said he invented the Internet. Here's what he said, and this is his exact quote, but at the same time, what does it mean? During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. That's the quote that Snopes itself uses. People just kind of generalize and say well the Al Gore claims he invented the internet. That's what he's claiming He took the initiative in creating the what is creating the internet mean if it doesn't mean invent then so why is scopes? You know Snopes. I'm sorry. I said scopes Snopes you this is the kind of you know you go Snopes calm you can find it you this is where you'd look up hoaxes because most of the hoaxes are outlined in Snopes, but for some reason they take Al Gore aside in this bullcrap, and I'd like to know why and

1:45:01 This is one of the many reasons why, just like Wikipedia, I don't take snopes. You know, people... You even send me snopes from time to time and say, this is not true, Curry! Chemtrails don't exist. Look, Snopes debunked it. I never seen the Snopes leak the chemtrails. Maybe not the... I don't know. Hold on a second. Let me see. Devorah... You won't find it. I don't think I've ever sent you a Snopes anything. Yes, you have. You have... Oh, and in fact, I was alarmed. Oh, that's because you thought you'd won a million dollars from some guy in Nigeria. In fact, I was alarmed when you sent them. Like, wow, John actually takes Snopes as like religion? Like this is the real deal?

1:45:39 Snopes, generally speaking, catches hoaxes pretty well, but... Here, here, here, John C. Dvorak. Well, it only took... this is sent on June 19th, 2009. Well, it only took one quick search to find that these are bogus, and then you send a Snopes link to some pictures. Yes, there you go. So you're taking Snopes as religion? Okay, fine. You made your point. Snopes is dubious, but it seems to me that quoting, actually quoting Gore saying he's created the internet and then saying status false to me is just an indictment of Snopes. Well, yes, you are correct, sir.

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Soccer Match Fixing, German Investigations and FIFA

An investigation in Germany has uncovered evidence of match-fixing in 270 soccer games across nine countries, linked to Asian gambling syndicates. Journalist Declan Hill discusses the "globalization of corruption" in professional sports. The hosts also mention suspicious behavior in World Cup matches involving Nigeria and the general refusal of FIFA to acknowledge systemic issues.

soccer· match fixing· declan hill· fifa· gambling

1:46:21 All right, so let me back up my claim about fixing of soccer matches with a fine article. After celebrating Spain's World Cup win, the international soccer world faces a major scandal. Authorities in Germany say an investigation into game fixing now involves 270 matches and may involve referees and players in at least nine countries. Investigative journalist Declan Hill wrote the groundbreaking book, The Fix, Soccer and Organized Crime. Declan, welcome. How typically does organized crime behind the scenes influence what happens to what we see on the field? Unfortunately more than most people realize and what the Germans have uncovered is and confirmed is what I talk about in the book. It's that the Asian gambling market, which is this enormous industry, absolutely gigantic, is coming

1:47:13 is really coming both into Europe and into North America. Because of the size of the gambling market there, it's corrupted most of the Asian sports league, and now it's starting to corrupt these leagues around the world. So it's a huge, huge problem, and they're only really just beginning to tackle it now. And what's the potential effect for someone who watches sporting events? Nothing, because we're stupid slaves and we're aspartame! It's extraordinary. I mean, it's absolutely extraordinary. We'll start with Asia and then we can talk about Europe. But in China, I was recently on a documentary, and part of the documentary was an interview with the Chinese Premier, Hu Jintao, and he's talking about their league being a national disgrace. a

1:48:12 aren't like that but gradually the same guys that have been fixing and corrupting all these leagues in Asia are coming to Europe, they're actually starting to arrive in North America and they're making alliances with local criminals it's really the globalization of corruption and it's a big big problem German investigators... I could listen to that guy all day long I love it. So the Germans have come out with 270 matches? They have people in jail right now. There's people in jail waiting indictments I see someone else, Dan sent me a whole list of things that I'll have to put them all in the show notes. Newsnight report, they claim the lesser known team games may have been fixed. The example in the report was Nigeria. They've warned FIFA about potential fixes in the game because of how Nigeria beat Argentina, but then went on to lose against Greece. They also say some of the behavior on the pitch to get people sent off on behalf of Nigeria, the random headbutt and then of course the red card,

1:49:12 But of course FIFA says no that can't be right. We're all cool. So Do you think we're crazy? We're one thing. We're not is a soccer fanatics That's for sure But, uh, yeah, it just shows. Do you think the Roman games were fixed when they threw those Christians down to the lions? Oh, absolutely. They said, hey, all right, listen to me. There had to be some highly entertaining Christians. They didn't want to get killed, get them killed. They would dope up the animals. Yeah, there had to be. I mean, they had to. I mean, why not? It's got to be rigged. Those kinds of things are always rigged. Meanwhile, Gitmo Nation Lowlands is so horny on getting the World Cup 2018 to the Netherlands

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World Cup 2018, Netherlands Tax-Free FIFA Bid

The Netherlands is bidding for the 2018 World Cup by offering FIFA complete tax-exempt status, including a waiver of the 18% Value Added Tax (VAT) on all purchases. This would allow FIFA officials to avoid taxes on hotels, fuel, and groceries. The hosts criticize the government for offering such concessions while the country remains without a formal governing cabinet.

world cup· netherlands· fifa· vat· tax exemption

1:49:55 Listen to what they're doing this by the way of course is the country that oh, what are we now? Oh, we're six weeks into it still no government Because the Queen hasn't been able to figure out who's gonna run the Ministry of Justice to keep the media files in there. They have no They don't need a government apparently. Oh, no one gives a crap. It's not on the front page of the paper anymore So of course they have a decommissioned cabinet. The cabinet fell, oh my gosh, this is now four months ago I think, over extending the stay in Afghanistan. Of course no change in the stay in Afghanistan for the Dutch troops while this is taking place. They're still just hanging out there, getting killed. Don't hear about that. A couple kids killed, a couple British kids killed, five in 24 hours recently. So FIFA

1:50:44 the federation, the International Football Federation Association of Assholes will have complete tax-free reign if they come to the Netherlands in 2018. What a scam. So no VAT, which is currently at 18%. Wow. Hotel rooms normally cost 250 euros. FIFA will only have to pay 200 euros. But even when filling up their cars with petrol or doing some grocery shopping, they would be completely free of paying the 18% VAT on everything. So they'd have a little card or something to get their VAT back? I guess, yeah. I don't know if they get it. I don't know how it would work. I think we should try to get one of these cards. You know they're gonna go in the black market, right? Another one of those. Let's get one of those cards. Yeah, we'll have a whole bunch.

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

TSA Expansion, Mass Transit and John Pistole

New TSA Chief John Pistole announces that securing subways and rail systems will be a top priority, equal to aviation security. The hosts predict that full-body scanners and shoe removal will soon be required for train travel. They argue that the expansion of TSA authority into ground transportation is an unnecessary infringement on civil liberties based on hypothetical threats.

tsa· john pistole· mass transit· subways· security screening

1:51:44 I'm just just blown away. That'll be the time to go visit Holland. Yeah for sure. Just blown away though. Blown away by it all. Well the VAT is coming to the United States of America. So get used to it. Yeah. Do we have any, you got a couple clips left John. Do you have anything positive to report so we can go on? No these are, these are high notes. We don't need to run them today. We can run them next time. We could do a little bit of Now we could well actually we could just to do that just because it's funny all aboard trains good planes bad Sorry, no you love that theme I do you'll be singing it all day now Yeah, I will and and when you sing that yeah, I'm gonna okay when you hear that jingle you will donate

1:52:34 We need to get some some binaural eye doser stuff. We know it's just meant to do a have it in the background of some sort of subliminal message. Yeah, you will donate to the show to work.org slash na. So after two, two people were asked to fill the shoes of the head of transportation security administration, the TSA, two of them said, I don't think so. This jabroni john pistoli Took the job. Scary looking dude. He is the new TSA chief. And he says, uh... Protecting riders on mass transit systems from terrorist attacks will be as a higher priority as ensuring safe air travel.

1:53:18 Well, then we'll be taking our shoes off. No, the president promised he wouldn't have to do that, remember? He said it. He said it. And we're going to throw it back in his face when we're going through full body scanners to get on the train. In his first interview since taking over the TSA, former FBI Deputy Director John Pistoli told USA Today that some terrorists consider subway and rail cars an easier target because he has conference media, conference call. Hey, Abdullah. What do you think is an easy target? Ah, rail cars! Yes, subway, much easier. Given the list of threats on subways and rails over the last six years, oh by the way, ever hear of 7-7 when they blew up buses and subways in England? Wasn't that enough warning if you're really serious about it, you dick?

1:54:09 We know that some terrorist groups see rail and subways as being more vulnerable because there's not the type of screening you find in aviation. From my perspective, that is an equally important threat area. So yes, get ready to take off your shoes before boarding your train. Getting on the subway in New York City. And the train. So this is not gonna fly. So Hill and Knowlton, that's K-N-O-W-L-T-O-N, a lot of people don't catch the name, Hill, as you'd expect it to be spelled, and Knowlton, who are the most sophisticated, largest PR agency in the world, bar none I think, who have all these consultants. They're definitely in the top three. Former politicians, you know, policy makers, and this is how the world works, and this is how news works,

1:54:56 this is how a lot of modern public relations is actually was invented by this company right France or should I say France stops constructions of new motorways no favoring the roads is no longer up-to-date French policymakers say oh yes because we need high-speed train that's what's going the French by the Germans by the way are not on this tip The Germans are not buying it. And also the German trains, there's all kinds of things. Yeah, the German trains are cracking down. Siemens, by the way, makes those trains in Germany and the French have it done by this other company and the French ones work and the Siemens ones are always having issues. Yeah, and the Germans are just not having any of it. Yeah, because they've already seen the results of the idea. I think Helen Nolten just doesn't have a good office there.

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High-Speed Rail, Hill and Knowlton PR and Freight

The hosts analyze the global push for high-speed rail as a public relations campaign managed by firms like Hill and Knowlton. They argue that while the public is sold on passenger service, the real goal is moving freight more efficiently. They also discuss the "Coalition Against Bigger Trucks" and the move in France to stop building new motorways in favor of rail.

high-speed rail· hill and knowlton· freight· trucks· infrastructure

1:54:09 We know that some terrorist groups see rail and subways as being more vulnerable because there's not the type of screening you find in aviation. From my perspective, that is an equally important threat area. So yes, get ready to take off your shoes before boarding your train. Getting on the subway in New York City. And the train. So this is not gonna fly. So Hill and Knowlton, that's K-N-O-W-L-T-O-N, a lot of people don't catch the name, Hill, as you'd expect it to be spelled, and Knowlton, who are the most sophisticated, largest PR agency in the world, bar none I think, who have all these consultants. They're definitely in the top three. Former politicians, you know, policy makers, and this is how the world works, and this is how news works,

1:54:56 this is how a lot of modern public relations is actually was invented by this company right France or should I say France stops constructions of new motorways no favoring the roads is no longer up-to-date French policymakers say oh yes because we need high-speed train that's what's going the French by the Germans by the way are not on this tip The Germans are not buying it. And also the German trains, there's all kinds of things. Yeah, the German trains are cracking down. Siemens, by the way, makes those trains in Germany and the French have it done by this other company and the French ones work and the Siemens ones are always having issues. Yeah, and the Germans are just not having any of it. Yeah, because they've already seen the results of the idea. I think Helen Nolten just doesn't have a good office there.

1:55:48 That probably, yeah, exactly. In fact this is a good argument for, in fact the Hill and Knowlton people, because they're going to end up listening to this anyway, should send us some money. Yeah, thank you, because we have a jingle for you. Because we just gave them a tip that's worth a lot of money, which is to do better work in Germany, get into Berlin. Yeah, there's lots of tax incentives in Berlin too. There's now a cabt.org The coalition against bigger trucks Yeah, I know this is another reason to because of course all these trains are not really about transporting your human resource ass It's about transporting goods to you

1:56:30 All right freight trains, and so there's a I wonder who who is this? Let me do that. Well, you know I'm a way for these guys because we're not talking about bigger trucks as in bigger We're talking about triples these guys drive around the freeway. He's still legal in California, by the way I don't think you carry a double in California get away with it you have your regular giant rig with a big truck and then you have attached to your truck a trailer and Hooked on by a bar with another truck essentially behind it and you so you go down the road and you're carrying these two loads and if you got into a Tangle or something it would be a huge mess and it's been a huge mess And then there's a thing called a triple where they're carrying. It's a truck carrying a truck carrying a truck There's three of these things. It's like a train on the road coalition against bigger trucks LLC registered in Alexandria, Virginia, ooh

1:57:26 Gee, why does that not surprise me? It's kind of funny though. They had this whole animation where they show a Boeing 747 and then they show a truck and so they're basically equating these long trucks to airplanes and of course we know planes are bad. Planes are really bad for you. You might as well make that equation right there. As documented by the Los Angeles Chronicle who have another beautiful piece titled The Fear of Flying. And it tells you why you're afraid to fly. Thanks. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah, it was that piece was totally useless. Somebody sent that around saying, is this like a hit piece? It was not even qualifies. It's just a piece of crap is what it is. A throwaway. And then Transportation for America reports American Conservative Magazine rails against the machine, promoting alternatives to the automobile. You know, groovy.

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Bicycle Safety, Foreign Oil and Petrochemicals

A discussion on urban planning critiques the push for bicycle lanes, with the hosts claiming that serious cyclists frequently suffer major injuries in traffic. They argue that society cannot easily transition away from automobiles or foreign oil due to the deep integration of petrochemicals in all modern products, including plastics and electronics.

bicycles· foreign oil· petrochemicals· plastics· infrastructure

1:58:27 Groovy. You know, I don't understand the point. This does bother me a little bit because there's got to be some either that or just somebody came up with the idea in this form of marketing to try to sell us on high speed rail for passenger service. why don't they just be honest about it and say look, it's cheaper and more efficient to have uh... move freight on rail they've tried this commercial a couple times, I guess nobody pays attention to them, they discuss how much per, how much, how many pounds you can move per mile at what cost and rail service for freight is extremely inexpensive especially when you have a lot of stuff and then you make these big trains and if they were just honest, there's this idea of trying to sell the public

1:59:11 on and the fact of the point where the french is not building roads is ridiculous because we're not going to stress in a sense where car oriented society ever since they did this the the interstate highway system was put together we drive cars in where you live you can even delivered that you can even survive without a car and then this is a problem on thursday show i said i need a car i'd need money to buy a car that's what i need your support for and apparently nobody thought everyone was screw curry screw curry we're not giving him a car he's gonna go buy a car with it yeah this is no good

1:59:49 No, I mean, LeBron James can shave points in Game Fix and he'll make a hundred million dollars, but Curry, no, he can't have a car. No way. No, that would be bad. So anyway, so they, they're, I don't, you know, they're not going to get people out of their cars. They have tried to do this, the bicycle lanes in Berkeley and all the rest of this. And you know, people that, I don't know about you, but everybody I know that's made a habit out of really riding a bike, seriously, a pedal bike. seriously, always gets hit. And when they're like 50 or 60 years old, they've got a crutch and they've got a broken hip, and they never heal right because they've got run over while they're driving their bicycle. Well, it's entertainment. So the point is that, and they're so healthy during that little era,

2:00:37 We're not getting out of our cars anytime soon. And we're not getting off of foreign oil anytime soon. Look around you. Every piece of plastic, every petrochemical product you have in your home. Stop believing the lies. Yeah, what are we going to do? Have our computer monitors made out of wood? Yeah, hey, you still have one of those. I do. Alright, so that's it for our- let me just do the jingle one more time just so it embeds and burns into your brain. All aboard! Train's good, plane's bad! You will donate. Okay. I think we've done for today, John. Okay, we are. I have got nothing left. I just wanted to say that on the heels of the mothership appearing over the Chinese airport,

CHAPTER 42 / 42 Discussion

Chinese UFO Sighting, Outro and Sign-off

The show concludes with a mention of a "mothership" sighting over a Chinese airport and reports of luminous beams in the sky. The hosts remind listeners to support the show via noagendashow.com and sign off with their "former Soviet spy" and "spy for no one" personas. They announce the next episode will air on Thursday.

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2:01:26 There's a report of a rain of luminous beams appearing in the sky and there's a great picture which I'm sure you'll say is photoshopped. It's photoshopped. But of course that's because they tried to nuke the thing out of existence with from the maybe it was a moon base shot not too sure. But it's okay because very soon you'll be able to purchase a ticket for the boarding pass for the mothership when it surfaces here in the United States, and we'll all get out of here. Everything will be fine. So on that note, support this program because we do put the hours in, we do the work. It's noagendashow.com or dvorak.org slash NA.

2:02:15 Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, I'm the former Soviet spy, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I spy for no one, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back here on Thursday with another early morning edition of No Agenda.