Episode 208 · Sunday, 13 June 2010

Fat China

A mysterious Senate primary victory in South Carolina and a psychological profile of the President collide with China’s strategic resource grab in a destabilizing South Africa.

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About this episode

The Obama administration faces a psychological and political reckoning as psychotherapist Robin of Berkeley publishes a profile in American Thinker suggesting the President exhibits signs of childhood trauma and Schizotypal Disorder. While Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel reportedly prepares to exit the White House, a political firestorm erupts in South Carolina where an unemployed veteran named Alvin Greene secured the Democratic Senate nomination despite a total lack of campaigning. The victory has prompted House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn to call for a federal investigation into the source of Greene’s filing fee and his recent felony obscenity charges.

Global instability deepens as the ANC Youth League’s Julius Malema advocates for Zimbabwe-style land seizures and the nationalization of South African mineral reserves. This internal tension coincides with a massive resource grab by China, which is positioning itself to fill the vacuum left by nearly one million white South Africans fleeing the country since 1994. Meanwhile, the geopolitical fallout from the Israeli raid on a Turkish flotilla reveals a hidden energy war over the Blue Stream 2 pipeline and Russia’s attempt to dominate natural gas supplies to the Mediterranean. In the United States, the FBI has launched a massive mortgage fraud crackdown, which serves as a tactical distraction from the complicity of major banks in the subprime crisis.

Dame Andrea Spongberg receives her official knighthood during this session as the community prepares for a No Agenda Gathering in Madrid. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the disturbing marketing of the antidepressant Pristiq and the smoking cessation drug Chantix, noting reports of users entering zombie-like states. The program also highlights the rise of the six-pocket syndrome in China, where the one-child policy has produced a generation of little emperors facing an unprecedented obesity epidemic.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 208, Gitmo Nation Media Assassination

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 208 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. Curry reports feeling ill with a potential stomach virus, jokingly referred to as Nardo or Nando's. The hosts establish the "Gitmo Nation" theme and prepare to analyze the week's media narratives.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· no agenda· media assassination

00:00 The 17 Shrimp Club. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It is Sunday, June 13, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 208. This is no agenda. Following the oil cabal all the way down Blue Stream 2 and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California, where June gloom has set upon us in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Nice.

00:40 In the morning to you, John. In the morning to everybody out there listening. Yes, all the human resources, in the morning to y'all. From the world service here at No Agenda Show. To the ships at sea. I am not doing well. What happened? I'm still sick. You must have something then. No kidding, yes. Well, I had full-blown like stomach flu for the past three days. It could be, what's that, what's that, Nardo? What's the name of that thing you can catch? Nardo. What's the name of that thing? Nardo? Nando's? No, I can't remember the name. It's like a virus. Well, whatever it is, I hope I don't have it if you can't even remember the name. Well, it makes you lose your memory. What? Nothing. Then I caught it from you, that's for sure. What? Sometimes I'm a little concerned about you. I'd be more concerned about my stomach if I were you. Yeah, no, I am. It was really bad. I couldn't go to school all week.

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Producer Credits, Dame Andrea Spongberg Knighthood

The hosts acknowledge Andrew McKinnon as the series producer for June and announce a new knighthood for Andrea Spongberg. Kelly Spongberg donated to surprise Andrea with the title of Dame, citing a need for "No Agenda karma" following a family medical diagnosis. Elaine Hengem is also recognized as an associate executive producer for her contribution from Gainesville, Florida.

andrea spongberg· kelly spongberg· knighthood· elaine hengem· andrew mckinnon

01:44 And had fever and it's nasty and I'm still kind of like... Are you throwing up? No, I don't throw up. I already told you that. Okay, well it's probably not that then. It's not what? Nardo? Nando's? I don't know. It could be Nando's. Let's get our producers mentioned right away. Oh, we have producers. You know, we forgot on Thursday to mention Andrew McKinnon. is our series producer for the month of June. So I want to say that right off the bat so we don't mess that one up. So we have a producer, an executive producer and an associate. Our executive producer is, he's actually taking out a knighthood for his, he's actually going to surprise Andrea with a knighthood slash dame for Sunday's show.

02:39 uh... and he's calling her and he doesn't say if it's his wife i'm assuming it is but maybe not this is sunday show just so you know right uh... he's calling her those sexiest woman in canada well alright i believe it who's to deny that so this is a sir black knight kelly uh... spawnberg right okay and he and his but he is bestowing executive producership upon the sexiest woman in Canada. That's what he's doing, yes. And her name is? Well, let's see. I sold some motorcycle parts on eBay, he says, and I was... it was almost time for Spangenberg Enterprises quarterly donation anyway, so I decided to surprise Andrea with a Night Hood for Sunday show. Feel free to use the sexiest woman in Canada. Our daughter, Kira,

03:33 My stepdaughter was diagnosed with some sort of a crazy cyst in her brain which wasn't any good, so this is also for some no agenda karma. She's healthy with no problems so far, but it's scary for all of us when a diagnosis like this comes about. So, Kelly Spongberg, I guess. So that shall be Dame... No, it's for Andrea. It's not for Kelly, it's for Andrea. Right, Kelly is the right, okay. It's for Andrea Spongberg. This is what happens with that Nardo disease. Makes you forget. You forget what you said three seconds ago. So it'll be Dame Andrea Spongberg. Great, so we'll have a knighthood, a damehood as it were. Cool. Yeah. Excellent. Wow, so that's, is that a $1,000 donation in one shot because he sold some like bits and pieces of his motorcycle? Yeah. Cool.

04:25 Wow, that's fantastic. I feel better already. Amazing. Well, Kelly's a good guy. It's amazing. He's a black knight, you know. Yeah, I know. And then we have an associate producer, associate executive producer, Elaine Hengem from Gainesville, Florida, who gave us $202.23. So anybody who donates more than $200 becomes an associate or an executive producer, depending on if that's the highest donation of the week. uh... and when you donate that just a free form donation at the work that works last in any uh... there's a little explanation there on that website so i'm gonna go out on a limb here john i'm going to say that this is probably the first time we have had a uh... female executive producer and a female associate executive producer on one episode one show yes this is a good day i don't think you need to get i think you're right and actually is a triple whammy because we also have a female night

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Gathering, Madrid Meetup Coordination

A "No Agenda Gathering" or "NAG" is announced for Thursday, June 17th, in Madrid, Spain. The event is hosted by Fakina Shol, who has dubbed the region "Gitmo Nation Castanets." Listeners are directed to a dedicated webpage with a map and signup sheet to coordinate with other "naggers" in the area.

madrid· spain· gitmo nation castanets· fakina shol· meetup

05:24 I mean the goods just keep on coming. All that's missing is a female's birthday. We would have shattered if we didn't get one. Wow, that's pretty awesome. That would be the circuit. And before we go into congratulating them on their credits, a quick mention for a gathering Lest we forget, this is the Gitmo Nation Castanets Gathering. I just love that. Which is in Spain, in Madrid, Thursday the 17th, that's this coming Thursday at 8.30pm and there will be a link in the show notes at noagendashow.com for a gathering. It's called a No Agenda Gathering hosted by Fakina Shol.

06:13 who regularly contacts us from and I think actually has named Spain Gitmo Nation Castanets. Right, now does he have a Twitter account or something where he can coordinate all this? No, he has a webpage so I'm going to put a link in the show notes of noagendershow.com so people can sign up. He's got a whole thing with like a map and where you can meet. It's a meetup. Yeah, well he calls it an NAG, a no agenda gathering, but yeah in essence it's a meetup. Oh I like the nag, it's a good one. It's a nag and he actually has a little tab here, naggers. If anybody wants to do a nag, let us know. Looks like three people have signed up so far. I wouldn't mind going to that thing. Yeah, hell yeah. Well we have to do our world tour man, we gotta do the whole... So what's the, why don't you just tell what the website is. Nah, it's messed up. It's like, yeah, it's not one of those, it's very handy.

07:06 so that's for the spaniards uh... in in the united states of europe in get my nation castanets and of course we want to thank uh... profusely dame andrea sponberg on behalf of black knight kelly of course uh... for her support of today's program along with associate executive producer elaine hand-jim uh... both of you can put this onto your resume it's an official credit Now I'd hate to say it could get you laid, but if you're looking for it, I think it works for all sexes. And it can definitely bring you good karma and can get you gigs and all kinds of other things. Put it in your email as well. And for the rest of you out there, we need you to go out and help us with support by propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. That's right.

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator, Community Contributions

The hosts highlight the No Agenda Art Generator website, which allows listeners to create custom montage artwork for the show. The tool overlays official show elements designed by Randy Asher onto user-uploaded images. Recent artistic contributions from Paul T and Paul Couture are praised for maintaining the show's visual identity.

randy asher· paul t· paul couture· album art· graphic design

07:58 And all you have to do is say it together with us for once and for all. Let's do it now, John. Shut up, Steve. I think I have to go to the doctor, actually. You need to see a doctor? Yeah, I think so. I think tomorrow I'm going to go see a doctor. I think it's indicative of something else going on. Yeah, well probably well hopefully it's not no big deal. Yeah, but if I should I go silent and fall down during this episode of no agenda I can carry the show to that call send in the federales and Oh, yeah, there's another site that I wanted to mention Which is kind of interesting. It's no agenda art generator dot info

08:48 Now if you look at the album art for every episode, we have some fantastic artists. We have Paul T, Randy Asher, recently Paul Couture has been contributing some great art. And some others along the way. Oh yeah, totally. And if you look at the noagendaartgenerator.info website, what's cool about it is you basically create your montage You upload it to this site and it will crop it and put the no agenda elements, which I think originally are the ones that Randy Asher designed. It'll overlay those and it'll save it as a new image. So, it's really cool. Take a look at it. It's like, wow. This is a high unemployment rate situation. It must be. Noagendaartgenerator.info.

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Health Insurance Rate Hikes, Obamacare Impact

An internal email from Mevio human resources reveals a 6% increase in dental insurance rates under the Guardian plan. The hosts attribute the rising costs to the early effects of the Affordable Care Act, colloquially known as Obamacare. They express frustration that insurance premiums are rising despite political promises of cost reductions.

barack obama· mevio· guardian· dental insurance· healthcare reform

09:40 I think I have a very good producer project. So I've been, obviously I've been ill. So I think I slept like 18 every 24 hours. So I've been, I couldn't launch a lot of C-SPAN. I do want to point out one thing, John. I think you got the email from Rosie who is in human resources at Mevio. And I'd like to thank President Obama Here's the email, folks, our dental insurance plan with Guardian renewed on June 1st and rates went up by 6%. You may see a slight reflection of this on your paycheck. Oh, thanks President Obama. Obamacare at work. It's just like, what? I don't understand. I thought it was supposed to go down. No. We're screwed. This is just the beginning of the end. So here's one for you.

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Adult Pertussis Vaccine, Whooping Cough Guilt Campaign

A television commercial warns parents that they are the primary spreaders of pertussis, or whooping cough, to their infants. The advertisement encourages adults to receive a pertussis vaccine to prevent potentially fatal infections in babies. The hosts criticize the ad for using guilt-based marketing tactics and disturbing audio of a coughing infant.

pertussis· whooping cough· vaccine· healthcare· pharmaceutical ads

10:44 Go to the clip file. Yeah new vaccine. Oh, no. Hold on new vaccine play it right off the bat Go hit it. Yeah, let's play it. I think the safest place in the world for your baby Is wrapped in your arms It can also be one of the most dangerous because parents most often spread pertussis, whooping cough, and it's potentially fatal to infants. Researchers found up to 80% of babies get it from family members. Ask your health care provider about the adult pertussis vaccine today, because your baby could be this close to catching it.

11:22 Oh my god! The kid is like dying! That's horrible! Because mom has got some virus. I don't know. I never heard this before, ever. So this is a... you can be a carrier of whooping cough apparently and you need to get the vaccine? How does that work? I don't know. But she literally calls it a vaccine, right? Yeah, I guess it's a vaccine. Amazing. Thanks. I feel much better now. That's a horrible sound that baby I'm trying to slice all the baby sounds out and put into something else. Was that a television commercial? Yeah, what a baby showing a cute little baby coffin. Oh, no. Oh, that's wrong, man. That's just totally wrong. You could be killing your kid. Take this vaccine. Everything's running guilt trips on the public.

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

WikiLeaks, Bradley Manning and State Department Cables

The detention of a 22-year-old intelligence officer, later identified as Bradley Manning, is discussed following the leak of a helicopter combat video to WikiLeaks. The leak reportedly includes 260,000 classified State Department "cables" covering topics such as the Vatican's sex abuse scandals. The hosts question why WikiLeaks is withholding certain documents and express skepticism regarding the term "cables" in modern diplomacy.

julian assange· bradley manning· wikileaks· state department· cables

12:20 It really... how does that work? I don't know. I don't get it. I... you know, remember when the WikiLeaks thing came out and there was a huge surge of... what's the guy's name again? Julian Assange? Assange? Whatever his name is. And like, you know, he's awesome and it's great that Wikipedia has done this and it's fantastic. But the real... Oh, by the way, somebody mentioned it's the norovirus I was trying to think of. Oh yeah, that's the poop virus. Yeah. Right. No, I don't have that. But it's not far from it. Norovirus. That only happens on cruise ships.

13:07 so uh... the true hero if you want to call that this is about the uh... the leaked videotape of the uh... the head of the country do you can buy the way i was to see this is this live on the blog right now what is the the video no the the the guy the story about this guy okay so but what i'm missing now isn't so this is a twenty two-year-old intelligence officer apparently who leaked this video to uh... wiki leaks uh... how they found out about him i don't know Of course, you know, they're supposed to be really protected when you send something off to WikiLeaks. But no one's like coming out and saying, this guy's the hero. You know, where is everybody now? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I'm in total agreement with you. It's like... Yeah, go ahead. He's not a hero now that they found out who it is. He apparently gave himself up on some chat room or something. It wasn't WikiLeaks' fault that he got found out. Of course, that could be bullshit too, but...

14:04 it seems as though he was uh... he was so good self-absorbed concern that some of the concern he was preoccupied so we're looking for with the situation and he had to talk to somebody about it and i got who he's talking to just turn him in it seems like uh... like the administration is very worried about something because apparently has uh... was like transcripts and other documents and uh... the uh... well he sent these documents according to wired magazine In fact, the whole story, it says that this guy, after sending the one, you know, this is the clip, by the way, for anyone out there who wants to know, we're talking about the clip of the helicopters and this kind of blasé gunning down of a bunch of people in some place in Afghanistan, or was it Iraq? Iraq, I believe. It was Iraq. And apparently he also turned in a bunch of, here's what gets me about the story. Let me go, I'm scrolling down to the part I want to read.

14:59 uh... he also fairly sent in another video that has never shown up he leaked a you know another video to wiki leases which makes me suspicious uh... that's never been eric and then do we know what it was well as another was similar to the one that he showed it was some other butchery some sort but let me know what you know we don't have to do with this goes out to find this exact wording well what i have here is and i i guess this is the uh... This is the online chat where he was found out. apparently he has two hundred and sixty thousand state department cables yeah that's what gets me cable is a cable in this day and age a cable is like a what what are these from like the Eisenhower administration cable or Truman yeah I mean what are they what is a cable what do they have a care you get the teletype going boys we've got a cable going out stop

15:57 Well, so if maybe that's just the way it's written It says it over and over again cable So this makes me very suspicious when when you read it over and over again, and it's like okay So what is that exactly? It is a database of 260,000 classified State Department diplomatic cables. Yeah, so apparently what some of them are Are about the Vatican and pedophile priests Did you read that as well? No, I did not catch that. Yeah, that it, the cables pertain, well the Vatican may be using cables, who knows? The cables pertain to the Vatican's position on the church sex scandals and could it be that the State Department is tapping the Pope?

16:52 keep track on the kids. I'm sure that they're tapping everybody but I think that's pretty clear. But the feds seem very anxious to define these and to stop the publication of said cables. But yeah, the whole thing that it's cables, that's bothersome. It doesn't sit right. No, not at all. And then of course the other thing is why is WikiLeaks sitting on this stuff? Yeah, why don't they publish it already? That's what they're supposed to do, isn't it? Yeah. Don't they? I mean, it's vetted. I mean, they're all saying, well, we don't want to publish anything that's maybe a hoax. It doesn't look like a hoax. And how does a 22-year-old become an intelligence officer? Isn't that a little bit young? I mean, when you're 22 and you have access to this kind of stuff,

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

American Thinker, Psychological Analysis of Barack Obama

An article from AmericanThinker.com by psychotherapist Robin of Berkeley suggests President Barack Obama may suffer from childhood trauma or psychological disorders. The analysis explores theories ranging from endocrine disturbances to Schizotypal Disorder and high-functioning autism. The hosts discuss Obama's perceived lack of passion and "flat" emotional responses to national crises.

barack obama· robin of berkeley· american thinker· asperger's· psychology

17:49 Don't you have to have some kind of seniority in just age in general? Or is that crazy for my part? I think you just get assigned. There's a lot of tons of intelligence officers who are just essentially reading stuff. I don't know what they do. But I don't think there's an age limitation. So there's a, this is pretty funny, you ever read AmericanThinker.com? Occasionally. Yeah, so what would you classify that website as? I don't know, libertarian? Yeah. So, Dr. what's his name here? This made me crack up. Dr. Robin, oh I guess it's just Robin of Berkeley, okay. Robin of Berkeley is a psychotherapist in Berkeley and a recovering liberal.

18:42 So Robin, Dr. Robin says, what is the matter with Obama? And goes into this analysis that perhaps he was abused as a kid because he's displaying all this really weird behavior. Giggling about the economy, going to parties and other celebrations when the shit is hitting the fan in Louisiana. Then all of a sudden, the ass-kicking comment, and literally is saying, well, it could be a number of things. And I guess this is a serious analysis. One, physical problems. He could actually have had head injuries as a child. The president fell on his head. Endocrine disturbances, epilepsy, toxic chemical exposure, which is interesting.

19:39 And then there's some analysis here, you know, his stepfather in Indonesia was purportedly an alcohol abuser. So maybe he did have a head injury that could be showing up now. Drugs or alcohol damage to the brain from drugs and alcohol can also cause significant cognitive impairments. And then there's a couple of examples there where Obama once said there were 57 states and didn't correct himself. Memory problems can be caused by both illicit and prescription drug use. Asperger's syndrome, another theory. uh... high-functioning autism known as aspergers now they did that that's a bill gates has a lc any evidence that obama's got that because for one thing obama you know what is what aspergers as you don't connect well with people obama connects very well he's very funny uh... is quick with it i i i i think there may be something to the abuse they mean he's his mom had to be in kind of a nut ball let's face it and she who knows what the deal is with her and uh...

20:41 Don't know and then there was the schizotypal disorder People with, I think I'm pronouncing this right, Schizotypal Disorder hold bizarre beliefs, are suspicious and paranoid, have in, wait I have this. That sounds like you, I was thinking that. Have inappropriate and constricted effect, they have few close friends, are socially awkward, oh my god I have this. A Schizotypal is someone like your strange cousin Becky who is addicted to astrology, believes she is psychic, and is the oddball at social gatherings. I actually have a cousin Becky. It's a checklist, the Adam Curry checklist. Anyway, Dr. Robbins says, my gut tells me Obama was seriously traumatized in childhood. His mother disregarded his basic needs, dragged him all over the place, ultimately abandoned him. But I think there may be something even more insidious in his family background. While I can't prove it, the degree of Obama's disconnect reminds me of my sexually abused clients. So there's a lot of big claims in this piece.

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Political Perception, Rahm Emanuel and White House Dynamics

The hosts discuss the public's growing dissatisfaction with the Obama administration and rumors of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's impending departure. They compare Obama's demeanor to previous presidents, including claims that George W. Bush was heavily medicated. Brief mentions are made of Michelle Obama's legal background and Bill Clinton's health issues.

rahm emanuel· michelle obama· bill clinton· george w. bush· senate

21:40 uh... and you know it to be an american thinker and you know there is this this uh... as we identified on thursday this bash obama right now because he's doing the wrong thing meme running around yeah i mean even john stewart was all over him what recently well i mean more constantly but i mean that one piece where he kept cutting between obama's so what he's going to do and then showing him at various events you know parties Right instead of doing what he's supposed to do so I don't know I we've always thought that that you know that the guy was weird We we have a theory or you have a theory I should say that there's two Obamas Maybe that would kind of make it look like schizotypal

22:24 But I agree with the basic analysis that his reactions, his responses, his non... He doesn't seem to have any real passion, you know? Even when he said, I need to know who's ass to kick. It doesn't seem like... I am going to go find who's ass I should be kicking. Yeah. Yeah, no, he seems flat. Really does. And, uh, I don't know. When Reagan was president, he was always just a moat. And then Bush, you know, just seemed like, you know, that they took a gun, they just drugged him. And that was the end of that. It's sad, but I do believe that. I do believe they just completely gave him Alzheimer's. Hey, here, take this. Let's sniff this paint we put on your desk. Even Laura said that they were drugged in a couple of events. Laura Bush, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

23:14 And so he just went through the whole system drugged. Cheney never was, it doesn't seem. He's always grumbling about one thing or another. He never took whatever it was. But they could be, maybe Obama could be on something. I mean, you know, these guys, they don't get enough sleep. uh... they may work in the death is a twenty four seven world and you know you have to go to bed at night in the next thing you'll never would every day is a surprise when you get up to the air and so i'm sure that you know that the tendency to be loaded with uh... loaded up all kinds of different mix you know drugs to go to sleep to wake up at the for the next three or four years as widely and a book like crap like clinton yeah you need in you get great will clinton of course is doing so much blow in the white house and blew his heart out

23:59 That was his problem. Yeah, well that can't be good for you. No. Anyway, I'm not really taking this anywhere other than I thought it was an interesting observation and yeah, we really don't know anything about this president when it comes to that. We don't know anything about his real childhood. And no, we don't know anything about his girlfriends that he may have had. None of them have ever come forward. You know, they said they slept with the guy. uh... yeah or reference palsy and have a little pals i mean even nixon had a bunch of crazy stooge pals bb ribosome always doing every year they were always hanging around uh...

24:42 We know a heck of a lot more about Michelle. Her background's pretty straight out. No, we don't know everything. No, I don't know everything, but we know more than we know about Obama. Yeah, we don't know about that whole law firm thing where she had to resign and she lost her license. It's all weird. But who am I to propagate conspiracy theories? It could be just smears. Well, something is afoot. He's definitely on the bad end right now. And I'm not quite sure why it is, but everyone is way against him. Most of the observers think that Rahm Emanuel, as soon as the elections are over, is out. Well doesn't he want to go back and be in the Senate where he can get some quote real work done? Rahm Emanuel? Yeah, yeah. That's what I keep hearing him say. He wants to go back to the Senate, get some real work done. I can't do anything here.

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Alvin Greene, South Carolina Democratic Primary Upset

Alvin Greene, an unemployed veteran with no campaign website or funding, won the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate in South Carolina. His victory over Vic Rawl sparked national confusion and allegations that he was a Republican plant. Greene's media appearances are characterized by repetitive, vague answers regarding his "old-fashioned" campaigning methods.

alvin greene· south carolina· democratic party· vic rawl· senate race

25:36 I can't do anything. Can't get anything done. Yeah, that makes nothing but sense. He's in the White House. So then there's this weird Alvin Green story. Do you have any clips on that? Were you following this? No, and I'm not even following it. Oh, so this is a, so, you know, there's elections everywhere, and this guy wins in, I want to say, South Carolina, and he's like a homeless guy. And he wins and no one really even noticed it. Although I'd seen something on maybe on some C-SPAN show somewhere where they were like, how did this guy win? Was it because his name was listed higher in the alphabet or something like that? The people are just so stupid when they...

26:20 when they vote and then it turns out that he was convicted of uh... you know i don't know uh... either an assault or DUI or something and then people start interviewing him and the guy did no campaign he's a democrat no campaign uh... he says he got the ten thousand four hundred dollars required to get on the ballot from his savings but for all intents and purposes the guy had no home and he can't really talk But it's funny because the way he's being questioned... Sounds like a Democrat. Yeah, the way he's being questioned both by Keith Olbermann but also what is this interview? Let me see. This is... This is the question that everybody has been asking. This is... What is this? The Big Picture? Is that a public television?

27:13 I don't know. I think so. So here's this guy, Alvin Green. Listen to the question, then we'll switch over to Keith Olbermann because the line of questioning is exactly the same. and everyone's calling this guy uh... republican national committee plants that they've been doing is that he's is basically the manchurian candidate this guy this guy in a candidate for nothing as far as i'm concerned two days now i'm sure asking you how in the world something like this happened where did you come from how do you win the nomination for the democratic party and the right to face jim demand or work hard and got my message to my supporters

27:53 I said just hard work. Well, when you say hard work, I mean, I understand he didn't hold any campaign functions. He had no campaign signs, no campaign literature, no website. How did you... This is also a big thing. He had no website. He can't be a real candidate if you don't have a website. How did you work to get the name out? I mean, what did you physically do? Well, I did just simple old-fashioned campaigning. Nothing fancy or expensive. What is old-fashioned campaigning? Did you go door-to-door? Did you get in the car and drive around the state? Yes. campaign all across the state you know my family and friends help me you know he sounds like a real politician doesn't he? He does. It's hilarious. Let's go over to Keith Olbermann's version. It's basically the same questions you know so this is why it's immediately suspect but Olbermann lays into it as only Keith can of course we're waiting for the Rachel Maddow assault on the guy

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Keith Olbermann, Alvin Greene Investigation

Keith Olbermann and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn call for an investigation into Alvin Greene's $10,400 filing fee. The discussion highlights Greene's arrest for "felony obscenity" involving a minor and a pornographic incident at a college dorm. Clyburn suggests Greene and other candidates may be part of a larger scheme to disrupt the Democratic primary.

keith olbermann· jim clyburn· felony obscenity· south carolina· campaign finance

28:53 And maybe he's legit, I don't know, but it's funny. There is nothing necessarily extraordinary about an upset victory in politics. It happens. But the political enigma reaches a whole new level when the Democratic nominee for the U.S. Senate in South Carolina is accused of being a plant by the Republicans and when the third-ranking Democrat in the House calls for an investigation. In our third story tonight, that nominee, Alvin Green, will join us in a moment and we'll have a full opportunity to address all aspects of the controversy. Mr. Green, an unemployed veteran, defeated a former state representative, Vic Rall, for the Democratic nomination for the Senate seat currently held by the Republican Jim DeMint. The primary garnered little notice until after Mr. Green won, until after the Associated Press reported that Mr. Green had been arrested in November of last year on a charge of felony obscenity. South Carolina... Felony obscenity?

29:41 I guess it's standing on the street corner cussing. I don't know. I've never heard of it ever being a felony. Felony? Obscenity? Maybe if you bitch out a judge or something. Wow, that's new to me. Democratic Party of Charlie. It should be a part of it. Do you have a right to free speech? That's ridiculous. We have to look that one up. Why don't you look that one up while I play this interview, or a little piece of it at least. Carol Fowler yesterday called on Mr. Green to withdraw, but he has reportedly declined to do so. And now, House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn of that state has called for an investigation into Mr. Green's candidacy. Congressman Clyburn, along with other South Carolina Democrats, have focused on how an individual, not currently employed, produced the filing fee of $10,400. Congressman Clyburn has pointedly said, quote, somebody gave him that $10,000 and he who took it should be investigated, he who gave it should be investigated. As to whether Mr. Green is an actual... And by the way...

30:34 Isn't that how politics works in America? Don't you get money from people and you use that to campaign? What kind of bullcrap is that? Unbelievable. I mean, now you have to investigate the people who... I mean, someone gave him the money, so? Isn't that how it works? Yeah, this is just Olbermann being Olbermann. If you're a Republican, everything you do is bad. This is the House Majority Whip who is saying this. Well, I know. Okay. Did you look up felony obscenity yet? I'm looking it up now. It appears to have something to do with minors. And like if you like, I think if you do a butt flash on my interview with that. Seriously. That's a felony obscenity, huh? I think it is. Hey now. I and the Republican Party

31:18 There were some real shenanigans going on in the South Carolina primary. Do you think he was a Republican plant? I don't know if he was a Republican plant, he was somebody's plant. Congressman Clyburn also charged today that two other South Carolina Democratic winners may have been quote plants one is Gregory Brown who ran against Mr. Clyburn in the Democratic primary Clyburn easily prevailed, but he questions how Brown paid for expensive television ads quoting Clyburn somebody paid for all that yet He showed not one dime in contributions, and there's this man Ben Frazier who evidently does not have let me get to the interview like did you hold a lot of meetings I

31:56 Okay, say that again. What was your campaign like? Did you have a lot of campaign meetings? I had quite just a few meetings. Not many. Did you have campaign rallies? nothing formal informal rallies informal meetings rather did you go door-to-door to meet the voters how did they find the exact same questioning word for word exactly this is this is why I find it so interesting Instead of just saying are you a fraud which is the only question that Keith is trying to get to Yeah, why don't you just ask him? Are you a plant by the Republican Party you a fake? I don't know if he maybe he does ask him that well, let's find out I just conducted a Simple old-fashioned campaign, you know all across the state of South Carolina Did you have campaign advertising of any kind? I had

32:59 campaign literature yes I did yes I did. I had campaign literature yes I did. The first time politicians get surprised by how much fundraising they have to do to make the expenses of a campaign how much fundraising did you do? Not much I raised I mean I used my own funds up to this point in the primary and up until right now How do you think the people who voted for you on Tuesday knew who you were or even that you were running? I think... You know, I think that they... they saw... I think that they... Nah, alright, that's enough of that. It's crazy!

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Voter Behavior, Open Primaries and Protest Votes

The hosts speculate on how a candidate like Alvin Greene could win a major primary, suggesting it may be a result of voter apathy or intentional "joker" votes. They discuss the mechanics of open primaries in California and South Carolina, where independent voters can influence party outcomes. The segment concludes with a transition to the BP oil spill coverage.

california· south carolina· open primary· independent voters· protest vote

33:52 okay here we go, class D felony, obscenity, person is guilty of obscenity, it always involves a minor if you hire a minor to be involved in an obscene performance for example it's just kind of vague, promoting a minor in an obscene performance, class B felony I will say his answers are... importing child pornography so then he should be a registered sex offender there's something just say that and this is just this is the just boggles my mind what what is the point where's this guy coming from why i think i think it may be a big exactly what they're they're all suspect but nobody wants to say which is the guy who's planted by the republican party yeah but screw things up and it's a larry is in the air what a great idea but if you're gonna plant somebody i mean when she like someone in their own life like the dumbest guy you can why

34:49 so how did the how did how did they get him to win then i mean are the well it's possible that i don't know this for a fair amount to look it up to south carolina said that depends on how they have their primary thing set up is possible i hear for example in california five-way goal i had to have an open primary hopefully uh... because it is voted that and i think anyway the uh... if i'm an independent even though I used to be a Republican, but before that I was a Democrat. But as an independent in California, you can either take an independent ballot or a Democrat ballot. So if it was me and I was in South Carolina and there was a word going around that this character's on the ballot and I was an independent and had to take the Democrat ballot in California, I'd vote for that guy immediately. This is like what you do in college when some joker runs some stupid party and he wants to make the cafeteria free and he's a lunatic. He gets voted in quite often.

35:48 this is this is this is this says so much about us as an American people doesn't it well you know it's a style thing so apparently according to the chat room here he went to a girl's dorm with porn in hand and said hey let's do stuff oh anyway amidst all of the oil spill cams that are plastered and now they have them in lower thirds on every news channel. You have a little box with the oil spill cam. This one kind of crept up as a little bit of extra news for us to ponder and wonder about.

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Jake Knotts, Racial Slurs in South Carolina Politics

South Carolina State Senator Jake Knotts faced criticism for using racial slurs to describe Nikki Haley and President Obama. Knotts claimed Haley, who is of Indian descent, was being "programmed" by a network of Sikhs to run for governor. He defended his comments as being "in jest" while insisting the state needs a "good Christian" leader.

jake knotts· nikki haley· south carolina· sikhism· racial slurs

36:27 because everything else just seems to be a total annihilation and destruction of the planet thanks to bp yeah well that's what they're up to so it would by the way before we leave the other topic with south carolina do the clip that's worth playing also from old man also about south carolina about some some screwball that's in the senate course he's i think a republican so they blasted as the world's worst person to come in right last week uh... and it might be worth playing cuz it is actually quite funny Okay, first state senator Jake knots of South Carolina first He won the hearts and minds of the heartless and mindless by saying of his own parties would be governor Nikki Haley who is of Indian descent We already got one raghead in the White House. We don't need a raghead in the governor's mansion amazing

37:14 Who's saying this? Some guy, some guy's a state senator in South Carolina named Rock. A raghead? Yeah, a raghead. Inferring Obama being a Muslim? Is that what he... Apparently. This is great. Indian descent. We already got one raghead in the White House, we don't need a raghead in the governor's mansion. Amazingly, state Senator Knox has topped himself. His comments about ragheads were, quote, ingest. Of course, he then repeated them to reporters and boasted, this isn't the first time I've said it. He went on to explain to the Columbia Free Times, Knott's says he believed Haley has been set up by a network of Sikhs and was programmed to run for governor of South Carolina by outside influences in foreign countries. We need a good Christian to be our governor, he said. She's hiding her religion. She ought to be proud of it. I'm proud of my God. Knott's says he believes Haley's father has been sending letters to India saying that Haley is the first Sikh running for high office.

38:09 office in America, he says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban. We're at war over there, Knott's said. We're at war in Lexington? Oh, he means India. We're at war in India? With the Sikhs? Mr. Knott's clarified, we're not at war with India, just with quote, foreign countries. Sounds like he's at war with reality. Wow. So South Carolina has some troubles. Some deep-rooted issues going on over there. They always have. They're the ones who started the Civil War. Yeah, damn them. And they're the ones who, you know, they had a flood or something or hurricane I think passed them by back in the, when the 89 earthquake, Loma Prieta in California was, you know, badly damaged.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

FBI Mortgage Fraud Crackdown, Publicity Stunts

The Financial Times reports that the FBI is preparing to arrest hundreds of people for falsifying income on mortgage applications. The hosts dismiss the news as a publicity stunt intended to frighten the public rather than address systemic banking issues. They argue that banks were complicit in the subprime crisis by ignoring documentation requirements.

fbi· mortgage fraud· financial times· foreclosure· subprime loans

38:56 and right after the earthquake we got a lot of attention from the government and some cash and whatever we needed to help fix things up. And South Carolina got all bent out of shape that we got any attention. They made all these public proclamations. Those Californians, they got their own money. Why is it, you know, there's just a weirdness. Yeah, we're only like 500 billion in the hole here in California. but anyway south carolina's is a is a kick so uh... starting next week if you lied on your mortgage application and uh... and if you are therefore now in uh... default or foreclosure uh... you're probably gonna get arrested i doubt it well uh... the according to the financial times the fbi is preparing to arrest hundreds of people across the u s as early as next week

39:59 for offenses including falsifying income on mortgage applications also by the way they will be arresting financial quote consultants who encourage people to falsify information sure they will well they're saying it they can say it all they want They're gonna arrest the one wrong guy for one stupid reason and the next thing you know they're gonna be sued. I mean this is not gonna work. I mean they're gonna go around and scare people and maybe fine them. I don't know what they're gonna do but they're not gonna be arresting people. Okay, why do they say it then I mean everything I know it's just a more stuff just frighten the public I have no idea when I see a bunch of arrests. Yeah, there may be one scamster out there That's just a pathetic, you know fraud who's been jumping from state to state, you know, just scamming the banks They'll arrest that guy, but they're not gonna start arresting homeowners. Give me a break. Okay, okay I'm just saying you may want to lock that door John and

41:03 Yeah, we don't have to, we don't ever do anything like that. It doesn't work because they make you, the problem is the banks, at least the smart banks, they make you hand in all kinds of IRS documents. You can't just lie. So I don't even know how people got away with that because it seems to me that uh... Because the banks didn't do that. They just don't take your word for it. Oh yeah, no I made a two million dollars a year! Well isn't that exactly what happened? Isn't that exactly what happened? That's what baffles me because I've never been able to find a situation like that. I think it's gonna be nothing, nothing's gonna come up. Clearly you've tried. You tried to find a situation like that. Yeah, I make two million a year man. Two million dollars a year, give me that big house. Well isn't that exactly what they say happened? Isn't that how the whole mortgage crisis came about?

41:56 because you know the high prices came about because of subprime mortgages now as people turn in the documentation it didn't really qualify the game alone anyway yeah that's exactly the same thing but it's not the same as lying well of course it is actual subprime program subprime refers to the you know you have a person a prime bar borrowers this about the borrower He's a prime borrower, it means he qualifies for a loan under some old formula. You change the formula, you bring in these people that wouldn't have qualified in the olden days, and you give them a loan. Well they have the documentation, how many of them lie? You don't even need to lie, you just say, no I don't make any money, okay here's your money. So I don't understand what this is all about, this sounds like just a bunch of, oh let's make it look like we're doing something.

42:45 Well, nobody will get arrested. I watched this whole thing unfold. It's gonna be just a big, just a publicity stunt. From the FBI. The FBI needs publicity. Well, yes. I don't know. Maybe they, you know, could have cut, stopped the oil well. I have no idea what the point of it is. Yeah, I wonder about that. Well, it could have been come out of Congress. We didn't, we, you know, we haven't been watching enough C-SPAN. There could have been one of those congressional things. Well, well, and they're talking to the one of the FBI guys. What are you gonna do about all these fraudulent, well, we're gonna do something. Well, tell me what, what, what? Well, we're gonna go after these guys. Next thing you know, they got to create a program and it's all bogus. Okay. That's one thing I can think of. All right. I'm down with that.

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

South Africa, World Cup Tourism and 2006 Optimism

The hosts contrast current World Cup coverage with a 2006 Globe Trekker report that painted an overly optimistic picture of Johannesburg. The older report claimed crime was a thing of the past and highlighted luxury developments like Melrose Arch. The hosts suggest the media is ignoring the underlying poverty and social issues in the townships surrounding the new stadiums.

south africa· johannesburg· world cup· globe trekker· nelson mandela

43:28 Alright, man, you gotta carry the show. I'm not feeling good. Okay, ready? Yeah. Got a couple of interesting things. Something's up in South Africa. Well, yeah, the World Cup. Yeah, and why is it coming through with a buzz? What do you mean? Is anybody listening to the World Cup report? Oh yeah, no, it's mind control. They're programming you. There's like a whole... No, no, there's tons of theories about this. It's like that buzz is to... You will come to South Africa, play Sun City, it is good, there is no apartheid, it rocks here, come to South Africa. You know, it's funny, I was having a conversation the other day, I was like...

44:11 They built a billion dollar stadium. I could think of some things you might want to do with a billion dollars for the people of South Africa. Wait a minute, that would be the black people of South Africa. And this is kind of like the Haiti thing. It's like, hey, you know... which really good for the economy down there because uh... poor black people can serve the white people is not exactly what's going on here in my crazy is is this uh... you are crazy but that's beside the point but isn't that kind of way to do it feels like to me i mean and there's a lot of shit going on in south africa well let's play some stuff about south africa what you got for me but let's start with uh... this is a report of uh...

44:53 The very positive report about how great things are in South Africa that was done in 2006 on Globe Trekker. And it was more like, you know, how much money did the tourist board pay these people? But play Joburg 2006. Okie dokie. Of the three years went by a bit force many of them were really free Yes, but there was this optimism that We were right and the regime was wrong. So where are we now? well, we at The point where there's light at the end of the tunnel and we've reached the point where South Africa has lived through its nightmare and it's finally woken up and

45:34 into a new land. The images are happy images and it's fabulous to show the new South Africa taking off, which is symbolized by the aircraft behind us, under the extraordinary persona of Nelson Mandela. This is Nelson Mandela Bridge, newly erected and represents the regeneration that's happening in the city. You've probably heard lots of horror stories about Jo'burg like crime and no-go areas but that's all really a thing of the past. Jo'burg is safe, clean, there's lots to do and there's no more crime here than any other big city in the world like London or New York.

46:14 The whole of Doberk City is going through some massive changes at the moment. Everywhere you look there's new developments going up. This is Melrose Arch, lots of bars, trendy restaurants and clubs. But it's not just about entertainment. Lots of businesses have moved out of the inner city and are now setting up camp here. Even the Bond Exchange. And if you're looking for a place to stay, look no further than the Melrose Arch Hotel. It's trendy, cool and everyone's talking about it. This is no backpacker hotel, but it's great fun. You don't have drinks by the pool here, you have drinks in the pool. But even though Johannesburg is changing, not everyone can live in places like Melrose Arch.

46:50 For the majority of Joburg's inhabitants, home continues to be black townships surrounding the city and most likely it's Soweto. Throughout the 70s and 80s the townships played a crucial role in the struggle against apartheid. It's moved on since then. This is a real happening neighborhood. In fact, there are quite a few millionaires that choose to live here. They raise their families, build mansions. This street, Villa Khazi, is the only street in the world that can claim to have two Nobel Prize winners who used to live on it. President Nelson Mandela used to live up there and Archbishop Desmond Tutu still got a house down the road. Pretty cool, huh?

47:32 This whole particular episode of Globe Trekkers was rigged because the show is about backpackers, it's about finding a cheap way to get around. They usually talk about hostels. and so this guy's living it up in this ritzy hotel in the middle of downtown johannesburg uh... talking about sending mentions is no backpackers hotel but but i'm staying here and i'm saying here is that the whole thing seemed like you know like a promotion is not an old son behind south africa uh... i don't if they are

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Julius Malema, Zimbabwe-Style Land Redistribution Threats

BBC Newsnight reports on the rise of Julius Malema, the controversial leader of the ANC Youth League, who advocates for seizing white-owned land. Malema's rhetoric and the "Shoot the Boer" song have raised fears that South Africa could follow the economic collapse of Zimbabwe. The hosts criticize the Western media for failing to report on the deteriorating racial and economic situation.

julius malema· south africa· bbc newsnight· zimbabwe· apartheid

48:11 as we follow up on the with the next couple of clips if they are they're doing a crappy job so i say no okay because uh... news night was a news night the thing on the bbc uh... yeah newsnight yeah yen use night came out of this week actually with a report on africa and south africa extremely critical uh... for a lot of different reasons but mainly because it's it seems to be slowly drifting toward a zimbabwe like uh... ruling uh... elite and uh... and the guy this malama who is this is a bad actor there who's uh... who has a theme song actually he's the head of he's part of the political party that's in power but he's the head of the youth corp in a seventy percent south africa's considered part of this group he's that you know the youth he's like the communist youth leader can i get it but it's not communist and it's essentially his c as a theme song that they actually play when he shows up

49:06 uh... which says shoot the bore the farmer right now and also implies they should kill them yet killed a white man yet killed a white man because and and when he talks about uh... you know what he says it look we get we'd turned over to our side that is a reserve rather ironic the way they're going to be the logic here but they turn themselves over to uh... you know black rule in ninety four and now it turns out there's more poverty there's more separation of rich and and poor and has all these other issues uh... and meanwhile they're they're starting to get fed up uh... for some reason that with the uh... well super good reason we could with the way things are going but it's causing a racial issue and uh... we can start these clips with uh... and is all from newsnight and newsnight by the way and the bbc i have to say the british

50:00 uh... were all over the mood gabi situation what once it even started it once it began i mean early on they were all over this guy because these are all british colonies are somehow related a dollar doing is keep putting the first look at the these guys are screwing up also that this is this is the the root the riches of the world of the west come from south africa the diamonds i mean this is the this is the huge amount of wealth and riches that have always been raped out of South Africa. Who's gonna get it out of there? These guys apparently don't have the wherewithal without these, you know, the beers running the thing. But anyway, that's beside the point. The thing is what's really going on here is what you saw in Zimbabwe, which was this deterioration, murdering all the farmers, taking all the land away from the white farmers, and now they're basically, the country's just essentially falling apart and there's nothing to stop it from just deteriorating into nothing.

51:10 Which could happen in South Africa if this Malema guy who's a who's this just hateful creep? Gets power which it looks like he's on the fast track to do just so I understand what you're saying So the Malema guy is against the white farmers and I can understand where they might have some issues with the white farmers You know if you look at the history But what you're saying is as with Zimbabwe you get this guy taken over and it just becomes worse Is that what you're saying? Yeah yeah it says is the this is a fractal and it's just gonna happen again and again this is in this one this one's got a written all over it and and the british are on to get on to this stuff pretty early in the game americans don't even pay attention we don't really give a shit will barb obligation was to give where this apart i think is terrible we must have been that was a great guy and i are obligation was to make the movie

52:07 with morgan freeman yeah we had to fix that because i was a robbie here's the meeting here's the meeting uh... which you guys can do it on the south africa uh... i will send morgan freeman that good good good good checklist that i could not go to a good thanks so i want once we've got to admit our obligation of of crushing apartheid uh... we'd brought crude on our job is done so uh... you're not necessarily advocating white people run south africa are you john no i'm i have just advocating that the that the system that was supposed to go into effect isn't working i don't have a kidding anything and i was pointing out well you gotta be careful because people hear you and they think i would you

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

South African Inequality, Racial Tensions and Mining

Julius Malema targets South Africa's vast mineral reserves, including platinum and gold, for nationalization. Meanwhile, Ernst Roots of the AfriForum youth organization defends white farmers against threats of violent land redistribution. The hosts discuss how South Africa has become the most unequal society on earth since the end of apartheid.

julius malema· ernst roots· platinum· gold· newsnight

52:47 what do you know what you can stay whatever you want i don't you know what's gonna happen is going to happen is was my point and uh... played jobber twenty ten which is the little more up-to-date are the are the these funds come to do the support their sides in a bigger contest over south africa's future to cheer at a crucial conference for the country's most controversial politician, Julius Malema, head of the governing party's youth league.

53:23 He's sworn at the BBC before, but for Newsnight it's all in braces. Wait, he swore at the BBC? He cussed them out? Yeah. Oooooh! Radical. When the crowd stepped back, I asked what's wrong with the nation born in 1994 when he was just 12. We learned a simple thing then. The simple thing was that if we defeat apartheid, we are all going to live like whites. And it has always been our ambition to live like whites. It's direct race talk. And much of the youth, who make up 70% of the population, love Malema for it. Blacks now rule the country, but there's an impatience to own it too.

54:17 These are some of the rolling acres that Malema has his eyes on. Just an hour's drive from where he was born in poverty in the northern province of Wimpopo. It's the childhood home of Ernst Roots. Just eight when apartheid ended, he's now leading a new youth organisation fighting to defend white rights and to avoid what he sees as the threat of a Zimbabwe-style land redistribution. We didn't take this land from anyone. It's part of our family. The concept is basically if you are white and you own land, it means that you have stolen the land, end of story. And we must take the land and we must give it to the blacks or the underprivileged.

55:07 So you're right, that is exactly a Zimbabwe scenario there. Yeah, and the problem is always overlooked in this, it's well, you know, the redistributing, you know, the socialist mentality where you have to redistribute wealth. You know, I don't want to point out the obvious, but I don't know about you, but if somebody handed me like 50 acres of farmland, and it's Like said hey this guy's out you're in I can't I don't know how to farm 50 acres These are not skills that you're born with You know, this is a long process That's very simple because you know who steps in You just throw that shit in the ground you don't have to do anything. Yeah, I guess so just grows by itself

55:57 So anyway, so it gets so the so this situation with this character and is this you know kill the kill the boar kill the farmer Theme song is obviously not something that is bodes well for the future of South Africa play Malema one the second clip second Inequalities increased since the end of apartheid. Indeed, South Africa is now the most unequal society on earth. Some say it's to divert attention from that failure that Julius Malema ratchets up his revolutionary rhetoric. Here in South Africa,

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Global Interests, China and White Flight in South Africa

The hosts suggest that China is positioning itself to take over South Africa's mineral wealth as racial tensions drive "white flight" from the country. Statistics indicate that nearly one million white South Africans have left since 1994, including half of the men aged 20 to 40. A Goldman Sachs report is cited as evidence of a coordinated "big grab" of resources during the World Cup.

china· goldman sachs· pretoria· afrikaners· white flight

56:42 We have the world's biggest reserves of platinum, gold, chrome, manganese and many other important minerals. Yet majority of us have never seen how these minerals look like. So, okay, so then we go from there to... Wait a minute, John. How come in the United States all I'm seeing is beautiful news packages about the great stadium and I see black workers building the stadium and everything's great and here's our Go Team USA and the World Cup and the FIFA rocks and it rules and it's great and everyone's saved?

57:24 how come i'm not hearing about any of this well it seems to me that if you are invested in you as the guy i want to call the liberal media leak is this is almost as if it's a a stupid phrase, but if you're already invested in, you were partly responsible as a sub-segment of society to destroy apartheid and improve the situation for everybody in South Africa. And it's failing It's one of those things, it's like, you know, certain kinds of like teaching new math or all these other things, you don't want to talk about it because like, you were part of the reason. You're like the problem, you're not like the solution. You thought you were and you just ended up screwing, what you've done is somehow screwed things up or you didn't follow up perhaps or whatever was needed to make the transition

58:14 benefit the poor of South Africa, you had nothing to do with it. You just did your thing, you left, and now everything's... you just put your hands over your ears and go, blah blah blah, I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear. And so you just don't want to hear. Or perhaps it was completely orchestrated and this was the plan all along. Well, there's that. Thank you very much. I just want to set it up, yeah. Yes, it's a possibility based on our thinking. So, but anyway, meanwhile, this is just the last clip which is the white flight clip which to me essentially is the icing on the cake and more of the Zimbabwe model, the fractal.

59:01 I don't know, South Africa is not Zimbabwe, it's a different, and it's got a lot of minerals, it's got all these things going. You have to consider the possibility which was never suggested on the BBC's report, that China is somehow involved in this. And if you just want to hate the whites, which some of these blacks apparently want to do, they may embrace the Chinese. Who already have like a million workers in the Congo. Right, and the Chinese like to come in, they'll really, if they think they're going to have, you know, the Chinese are going to help them, they're in for a big surprise. The Chinese will just get all those minerals out of there as fast as they can with Chinese labor. You know that I read a Goldman Sachs report about South Africa in lead up to the World Cup, an investment report about how great it is to invest in South Africa right now.

59:54 So I think you're right. It's like a big grab is taking place and you gotta get in now. Get in early. We gotta get it. Cause it's all gonna be sucked out. So here's the white flight clip which kind of just summarizes the trends. A million whites, nearly one in four, have left South Africa since 1994. Almost half of all white South African men aged between 20 and 40 are currently living abroad. Whites who remain are counting their losses. These Afrikaner protesters in Pretoria say more than 3,000 white farmers have been murdered since 1994.

1:00:32 Ernst Rootz, one of the rally's organizers, says Malema's trademark song with the words, shoot the boar, has incited some. So, uh, well, it'll be interesting to see what happens. During this World Cup if we see any of that on tell well, they know we won't see any of that but and apparently there according to the Newsnight folks the The likelihood of anything bad happening during the World Cup is zero But once this thing is over and then people go back to their normal trend lines It's going to be at the beginning of the end, but this Malema guys the guy you got to keep an eye on

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Listener Donations, Mexico Cell Phone Registration

The hosts thank various donors, including Kurt Cicero and John Martinez. A listener from Tijuana reports that Mexico has implemented mandatory cell phone registration to combat drug dealing, threatening to cut off service for those who do not comply. Catherine Cable from the UK is also thanked for her support and for recruiting new listeners.

kurt cicero· john martinez· catherine cable· mexico· cell phone registration

1:01:14 So why don't we take a moment here to thank supporters of this program. Of course we are in the summer months so it's getting a little difficult to get people to Pony do anything do it. Yeah, really come to work do anything at all We have a few people who want to thank Kurt Cicero from Evansville, Indiana Two nickels on the double nickels on the dime Oscar and the Dow from this is a good one this room Tijuana Baja, California, maybe and give us some reports from down here down there double nickels on the dimes from Mexico and uh... and yet he actually sent me a note he said that uh... that whole cell phone registration thing is already in place in uh... in mexico and uh... he says and the reason why says because everyone here is a drug dealer so all users had to register before april tenth if not your number would be cut off if you didn't register so even if you already had a cell phone yet to register

1:02:16 Also, John Martinez, 5555 out of Gilroy, the garlic capital of the world, and Catherine Cable from Roberts Bridge, East Sussex, who wants to make a comment. In the morning to you both from Roberts Bridge, UK, please say hi to my husband Mark Cable and thank him for the best 20 years ever! by the way he is single-handedly recruited several hundred more listeners for your for you daily in our own get mo nation so keep up the great work one more thing if ever managed only one thousand i can i i can't be a night so do i get to be your first game well we had one today we have a listening quite a few times i think i have a lot of the other about four by really but you can do it maybe have uh... daniel you say you're the first when you know you

1:03:06 no we can't but it won't be true. A nice little story from Daniel Wheaton you'll remember him he was the PR associate for No Agenda episode 180 who wrote that astounding essay for school he says you know I've been looking for a summer job things have been looking very bleak the major employer in my town roughly about four thousand people is going out of business so the job market sucks you know his dad relocated a long story doesn't want to get into but he says the first week in June I was gathering on applications for places I knew had fired people and out of the four that I applied to, I was interviewed for one and I'm now going to start as a waiter in the Farmhouse Cafe in Cozad, Nebraska. Oddly enough, he says, I signed the application at 3.33 p.m. as to evoke what was left of my donation karma from March when I donated $40 along with my PR associate credit. It seems to have worked.

1:04:01 So, in the morning to you and thank you all so much. We've got another letter from John Martinez. In the morning he says, I had to donate this week because I heard Adam on Buzz out loud and have a new heartfelt respect for you Adam because you're the, because you use the VI editor like a real man. Hey, actually I it's I use the Vim editor, which is the updated version So it's a I hope I still qualify as a real man. It's still command line Okay, just not also I'd like to call out my brother Carlos who listens to no agenda, but has not donated yet

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Dame Andrea Spongberg Bestowal, No Agenda Rings

Andrea Spongberg is officially knighted as a Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. The hosts discuss the ongoing production of No Agenda rings, which are expected to be completed by the end of summer. They reiterate the requirements for becoming a knight or dame through significant financial support of the program.

andrea spongberg· knighthood· dame· no agenda rings· donation

1:04:43 as a douchebag. This is his third donation besides the $5 a month subscription. We encourage people to subscribe to the $30 a month lucky subscription or the $5 a month subscription. If you haven't already, please do. That's Dvorak.org slash NA for all the stuff or ChannelDvorak.com slash NA if you can't get to the website. And now ladies and gentlemen we would like to call the sexiest woman from Canada to step forward. John, let's unchief. There you go. Let me just get mine for a second. Wow, this is special. It's always a nice rack by the way. It's always nice when we have a dame hood.

1:05:30 And this of course comes from the Black Knight, Sir Kelly. Kneel before us, Andrea Spongberg, as we now proudly knight thee Dame Andrea Spongberg, Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please enjoy our Chickalows and Blow. I didn't think she'd want hookers. There you go. Well that's good, we got another knight. Dame. Dame a dame was so we have but four or five dames now. I think so Yeah, let me ask you a question which usually comes up around these times in the program John Yeah, no, I mean I got a couple of clips. No wait. How are we doing on the rings my friend? We're working on where those rings will be done by the end of summer really yeah, you know I'm getting kind of tired of asking well, maybe you should stop right honest. Huh? Maybe I should what am I thinking?

1:06:31 uh... if you'd like to become a night uh... it involves a support of one thousand dollars or three times thirty three thirty-three or three hundred thirty three dollars and thirty three cents and uh... you will then become a night of the or a day in as it were of the no agenda roundtable to work dot org slash n a you're right my microphone does sound model there's something very weird going on makes a great gift it does it does make a great gift totally agree And by the way, if you like this show and you want other people to listen to it, turn them on to it. But try, there's probably people that are already in the choir is your best bet. Hey, before you go to any clips, NASA is saying something kind of weird. Apparently there's a heliophysics division at NASA, which I was not aware of.

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

NASA Solar Activity Warnings, Space Weather Cover Story

NASA's Heliophysics division warns that the sun is "waking up," potentially leading to severe space weather that could knock out power grids and GPS. The hosts speculate that these warnings are a cover story for potential internet shutdowns or EMP events related to secret space wars. They express distrust in the National Academy of Sciences' framing of the issue.

nasa· sun· solar flares· national academy of sciences· emp

1:07:24 And I think they're masking something, because now they're saying, well, the sun is waking up from a deep slumber. And the next few years we expect to see much higher levels of solar activity. Now, when NASA comes out with a statement like that, what is that all about? I don't know. I'd rather talk to some solar lab and find out what they say. The sun was sleeping, everybody. Shh, don't wake up the sun. It's going to blow. Well, I think that, you know, and what they're basically saying is, And this of course comes from the biggest shills funded by Congress, the National Academy of Sciences, who framed the problem two years ago in a landmark report entitled, Severe Space Weather Events. If global warming wasn't enough, now we have severe space weather events. In this report noted how people

1:08:14 That's human resources like you and I. Of the 21st century rely on high-tech systems for the basics of daily life. Smart power grids, GPS navigation, air travel, financial services, emergency radio communications. All can be knocked out by intense solar activity. I think this is a huge cover story. Like the biggest one you can come up with. It's like now things are going to start dropping off. So it can either be like EMPs are going off and the never-ending space wars which are taking place above our heads which we're just not told about. So it's either that or maybe we need to have some things shut down for a while like the internet. Just shut everybody up for a little bit and we're going to blame it on the sun that's waking up from a deep slumber. I don't like it.

1:09:07 Hmm. Well, there are experts outside of NASA that can give us some probably better information Yeah, the National Academy of Sciences. No besides them like some of the universities Yeah, something's probably up so by the way this is somebody came with this idea Maybe we talked about this Okay yeah that noro byerson yes so uh... you know actually me suggested this because there's been a number of the uh... of strange reports that people if they're unemployed they can't find that people hire them you know it's that's like if you have no credit you can get credit right and so if you don't have a job and and you know so you feel very happy to have a job and go get a job

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Resume Padding, Executive Producer Credits

The hosts suggest that listeners who are unemployed can use "Executive Producer of the No Agenda Show" as a legitimate credit on their resumes. They offer to vouch for donors, explaining that the role involves story curation and financial support similar to Hollywood production roles. This is presented as a way to explain gaps in employment during the recession.

resume· employment· executive producer· job market· career advice

1:10:09 uh... you know by john job hopping but you can if you don't have a job here but i'm playing for six months you know reference the you know how are you know the other day i want to get a bomb so i mean this is basically what's going on so the idea is uh... If you become an executive producer of No Agenda, then you got a reference right there. You could put it right on there. What have you been doing? Well, I've been producing a podcast. Don't say podcast. A digital radio show. A digital radio show. Yeah. Right. Don't say podcast. And by the way, it's Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak and they'll vouch for me. Go ahead. Give them a call. Right? We'll vouch for you if you're an executive producer. Absolutely. Say, you know,

1:10:49 I gotta tell you, Andrea Spongberg, she has been instrumental to our program. She was? Yeah, but I'm not lying. No? And you know, she does a great job, she gets, you know, really helped us with the stories, support for the show. She does exactly what executive producers do. Exactly just like Hollywood. In fact, I live in Hollywood. So there, hire her. So anyway, so that's a thought for people out there who can't get work. And you get the karma with it, by the way, so. So yeah, pad your resume with being an executive producer. Pad your resume. One line. What have you done so far? Well, I graduated high school and then I was an executive producer on the No Agenda show. Cool. Good resume. Love it. Okay, you're in. Excellent. Hey, the Fox are attacking in the United States now. Oh. Oh yeah. An 87 year old woman

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Rabid Fox Attacks, Toyota Prius Skepticism

A report of a rabid fox attack in North Carolina leads to a discussion about the ubiquity of the Toyota Prius. The hosts criticize the Prius as a "statement car" that is overpriced and aesthetically unappealing. They argue that the environmental benefits are a scam, particularly regarding the disposal of large batteries.

raleigh· north carolina· toyota prius· hybrid cars· environment

1:11:44 Credits her neighbors for saving her life when a rabid fox attacked her in the backyard of her Holly Springs home last week. A rabid fox? That's in Raleigh, Durham, North Carolina. That's not good. No, no, no, no. Uh, for about 5 to 10 minutes she fought the animal, trying to kick it off her, but every time she did it went after the other leg. That's nasty. Oh God, what an image. I thought I was going to die! Kick, kick, kick! So is there an international cabal against foxes now? I think by the wolf lobby. Yeah, there must be something going on. Or maybe it's just that 10-speed bike theory. When you get a 10-speed bike then you see them all over the place. Yeah.

1:12:25 Yeah, you can do the same thing in Berkeley with Priuses. You know, you might as well just paint loser on the side of those things. Loser? Really, there's a lot of them in Los Angeles. I just can't help when I'm behind one just going like, stupid battery car. I used to drive my daughter crazy. We'd go to the stores and I predict how many Priuses we see. It's just like about a 20 block drive. You know, at first it was like, we're gonna see, I said, we'll see 20. Oh no, no chance. So we see 25. They're everywhere. You know, it's like, and it's such a, it's a scam. I mean, these things are a scam. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's funny.

1:13:10 It's like not only is it a scam that you're like helping the environment because you know God forbid what happens to these batteries when they have to get tossed out. Vehicle fines are one of the most environmentally harmful operations in the world. But not only is someone laughing about scamming you into thinking you're saving the earth with a battery-powered car, but it's ugly. It's the ugliest thing in the world. I mean if they had made it look kind of cool like a Ferrari or something, I give uh... what is that uh... the other tesla yet the tesla come and give some credit for making a kind of look sexy you know but come on

1:13:47 What a scam. And here's the funny part about that, you know, they, they, the original Priuses didn't, they were just kind of like regular sedans and they came with that funky look that makes it look like something very different. And so then Honda's newest version, if you ever see the new Honda, uh, uh, hybrid, it's, it's an exact copy of a Prius. It looks just like a Prius. It's got the same hump back and that funny looking, window in the back the whole thing is it exact you did when I saw when I saw just the first time a couple days ago a holy crap you know this is like I'm driving an electric hybrid car I'm saving the earth and you get that little sticker it's a sign that little sticker that says clean air vehicle which is not you still uses gas it's a it's a statement car yeah for people have to make a statement when they're not cheap

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Prius Driving Experience, Rudy Sarzo Anecdote

One host recounts renting a Prius and finding the driving experience "flimsy" and uncomfortable. They share an anecdote about meeting legendary bassist Rudy Sarzo in Los Angeles, only to be shocked when the rock star drove away in a Prius. The hosts joke that driving a hybrid car is inconsistent with Sarzo's heavy metal pedigree.

rudy sarzo· quiet riot· blue oyster cult· toyota prius· los angeles

1:14:38 No, they're overpriced. Yeah, they're very expensive. I can't afford one. But of course if I ever wind up driving one, John, please immediately shoot me. So I rented one in, where was I? Someplace. You rented one? Yeah. Yeah, I rented one from the, they had a renter, I can't remember where it was. It wasn't New Orleans. Were you high? I wanted to drive one to see what it was like. And? It's weird because one thing it doesn't have is it's got these little buttons and it's got like a little joystick that you put it in and out of gear. And it scoots along, it seems a little flimsy. I talked to some cab drivers who have them and they feel they're kind of flimsy. So, you know, I don't know if I'd want one because it's kind of, I don't know, it's not that, it wasn't the most comfortable car I've ever rented.

1:15:37 You know, my friend Rudy Sarzo, bass player for Randy Rhoads, Ronnie James Dio, White Snake, now I must say currently on the road with more cowbell than ever with Blue Oyster Cult. So I hook up with him and his lovely wife Rebecca and we have a lunch. And Rudy's like, he's a heavy rocker, right? And he's still got all his hair, and the guy's been around, and he does just an amazing, even speed metal bassist. And he lives in LA. And so we walk back to the parking lot, and he gets into a Prius, and I just poop myself. I'm just like, this is bad. This is so wrong. You can't be playing with Ronnie James Dio and driving a Prius. It just doesn't fit.

1:16:28 That's funny, I was wondering where that story was headed. Quiet Riot of course was the first band he was in. That was his band I think. Yeah, he's been sold to Bill of Goods. He doesn't listen to our show. No he doesn't. I tried to get him to listen, he doesn't listen. I have a lot of friends that won't listen. They don't... They're not real friends, John. Well that's probably true. So I got an interesting thing the other day. Play another clip here. We've played this before, it seems, but in fact we haven't. Oh. Play the Pristik ad. We've definitely played some Pristik ads before. Oh yeah, but not this one. Depression is a serious medical condition that can take so much out of you.

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Pristiq Antidepressant, Targeted Daytime Advertising

The hosts analyze a commercial for the antidepressant Pristiq, noting that the advertisement features a "wind-up" robot metaphor. They observe that the commercial has been adapted for different demographics, including a version specifically targeting black women during daytime television. The segment highlights the extensive list of side effects mentioned in the ad, including suicidal thoughts.

pristiq· depression· pharmaceutical ads· serotonin· norepinephrine

1:17:13 I feel like I have to wind myself up just to get out of bed. And, well, I have to keep winding myself up to deal with the sadness, the loss of interest, the trouble concentrating, the lack of energy. If depression is taking so much out of you, ask your doctor about Pristique. Prosteq is a prescription medicine proven to treat depression. Prosteq is thought to work by affecting the levels of two chemicals in the brain, serotonin and norepinephrine. Tell your doctor right away if your depression worsens or you have unusual changes in mood, behavior, or thoughts of suicide. Antidepressants can increase suicidal thoughts and behaviors in children, teens, and young adults. Prosteq is not approved for children under 18. Do not take Prosteq with MAOIs. Taking Prosteq with NSAID pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk.

1:18:00 Tell your doctor about all your medications, including those for migraine, to avoid a potentially life-threatening condition. Pristique may cause or worsen high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or glaucoma. Tell your doctor if you have heart disease or before you reduce or stop taking Pristique. Side effects may include nausea, dizziness, and sweating. For me, Pristique is a key in helping to treat my depression. Ask your doctor about Pristik. I think Mickey's been slipping that in my coffee. So that sounds like a familiar commercial. Yes, it does. It sounds like everything I have. No, I mean the commercial itself we played. Yes, it sounds very similar to... Yeah, well, this is the same commercial that we played before but this time it's a black woman.

1:18:41 And the little robot the wind-up toy is a black woman And she winds up a little black robot and it walks along and then she but the different in the white girls commercial Two kids no, we don't see any kids. But the woman is a parent. She owns an antique shop It's because she's in it constantly. No wonder she's depressed She winds up this little thing and she grabs it and And she plays with it and then it shows up as something like for sale at the store. The whole thing is like watching this and it's showing up, this showed up after like, you know, on daytime TV where I guess a lot of black women or depressed black women have to watch white shows because it was one of those, it was the Bonnie Hunt show when I first saw this thing. That's Mike's sister.

1:19:30 and only uh... it only uh... shows up on i've never seen it and and afternoon evening is always in daytime tv this is all you know you know the daytime tv stuff is where all the shit airs and i see when our When the housekeeper is here, it's a mother and daughter and they come over and they have the craziest shit on man. And then you know, it's like Jerry Springer and all this crap. And that's when all these nutty commercials come on. All of them. It's like, it's like this, like the audience we think we're obsessed with primetime. Uh, this is where these guys score. Yeah. And is this also good for bipolar disease by any chance? Uh, they don't know how it works. Did you hear the commercial? We think it works like this, but we have no idea. We're not really sure. We did get a couple of related emails in

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Chantix Side Effects, Zombification and Vivid Dreams

Listener emails describe harrowing experiences with the smoking cessation drug Chantix, including extreme insomnia, vivid dreams, and "zombie-like" behavior. One account details an uncle who disappeared and wandered the city in a confused state while on the medication. The hosts question why the drug remains on the market given its potential to cause psychological breaks.

chantix· smoking cessation· side effects· insomnia· pfizer

1:20:17 which I think are worth discussing regarding shantix. Whenever we talk about this wonder... We got two good emails this week. Whenever we talk about this wonder drug that helps you stop smoking but apparently makes you go insane, we always get a couple of emails. And I'll reiterate that Mickey was on this stuff for about a week. Was it a week? The shantix, the stop smoking stuff. For a week? I can't hear you. Two weeks? Right. And then you almost killed someone, right? You almost killed yourself. Yeah, see I'm telling you and then the only way to get off of it was to smoke heavily. Yeah. It's what? Cold turkey and then start smoking again. Yeah. So anyway, so anonymous email here.

1:21:04 I'm on the first week of shantik. So far the side effects I've experienced are insomnia, really hard for me to fall asleep and stay asleep at night. I wake up every 30 minutes to an hour. Don't feel tired or sleepy during the day. The next side effect I experience is the crazy dreams. Last night, and these people are really opening up to us because I think they want to share how messed up this is. Last night I had a dream that I was seeing two chicks and had to choose which one I was going to date and explaining to them how I was seeing another chick at the same time. That's a good, that by the way is just a good dream. And these are vivid dreams. Oh yeah. The night before I had a dream that I was a knight in an army during the medieval times fighting demons and devils with a sword. I have not experienced any other side effects or paranoia yet but I'll keep you updated. So far, this is the best, so far I don't get cigarette cravings unless I'm drinking and yes I smoked a pack so far while on shantix while I was drunk.

1:22:01 So, okay, I think maybe the shanty smoking and being drunk might not be a good recipe. I don't think that's a formula for success. He also says, by the way, since... Excuse me. Since when did it become a crime to drink? San Diego banned all alcohol drinking on all beaches a couple years ago due to fights and rowdy behavior. Now 4th of July is ruined. You can't drink and get drunk on the beach. And then this one, this was really, we both responded to this like, wow, so glad this turned out okay. From Paul Tevis, Adam and John, earlier this year my family had an uncle living with us, Uncle Fester.

1:22:44 He's been a heavy smoker for his whole life and has tried different ways of quitting in the past few years He got a prescription to shantyx took it for a few weeks We didn't notice anything wrong with him at first, but after about a few weeks He basically became a zombie of course now. I'm perking up saying uh-huh He was a completely different person. We'd ask him questions or just try talking to him. His responses didn't make sense. He'd randomly start smiling and laughing when we were trying to be serious with him. My mom decided to take him to his doctor after two days of the same behavior. Long story short, he disappeared at the doctor's office. Nobody knew what happened to him. Turns out he walked all over the city by himself, ended up going to a restaurant that a cousin of mine worked at, said he didn't even recognize her. He ordered wine and coffee.

1:23:27 And after not really drinking either, he walked out on the bill, disappeared. The police eventually found him the next day. He was taken to the hospital. He's off the Chantix now and is back to his old self. And we keep asking, why is this stuff still on the market? How is this possible unless they want to zombify people? I don't know. And the amazing thing is these aren't isolated incidents. When we first brought this up, with you know starting with the commercial which was that we wish we still have a ship i played in cuz it's the most horrendous commercial in terms of the side effects let me see if i have that's a man of his way is for it's about a year ago i would think that's pretty old but anyways under i think it's called shanty x uh... word misspelled it as usual shaman takes is unlike that anyway uh... when we first discussed it just casually uh... the next thing you know we got a bunch of letters

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Chantix Marketing, Pfizer Warning Labels

A Chantix commercial featuring a woman named Robin is played to highlight the drug's official warnings. The ad admits to potential changes in behavior, hostility, and suicidal ideation. The hosts mock the "sugar pill" comparison in the clinical studies and the overall danger of the product compared to natural alternatives.

chantix· pfizer· suicidal thoughts· nausea· pharmaceutical ads

1:24:23 I mean out of the blue and then we found out more and more and more and it's just and it's just like if this is not like these side effects are Uncommon apparently they're beyond common. Okay, I have to I have to shantyx clips. Let's listen to the first one for a second My name is Robin. I am a wife, I am a mom, and I was a pack-a-day smoker for 25 years. I do remember sitting down with my boys, and I'm like, oh, promise mommy you'll never ever pick up a cigarette. And Brian looked at me at eight years old and said, promise me you'll quit. I had to quit. My doctor gave me a prescription for Chantix, a medication I could take and still smoke while it built up in my system.

1:25:07 Chantix is a non-nicotine pill. In studies, 44% of Chantix users were quit during weeks 9 to 12 of treatment compared to 18% on sugar pill. That was the part we loved the most. Sugar pill seems to work just as good. It's proven to reduce the urge to smoke. Seeing how Chantix worked, I wasn't so afraid to try quitting again. Talk to your doctor about Chantix and a support plan that's right for you. Some people have had changes in behavior, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping Chantix. If you notice agitation, hostility, depression or changes in behavior, thinking or mood that are not typical for you or if you develop suicidal thoughts or actions, stop taking Chantix and call your doctor right away.

1:25:51 Talk to your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which can get worse while taking Chantix. Some people can have allergic or serious skin reactions to Chantix, some of which can be life-threatening. If you notice swelling of face, mouth, throat, or a rash, stop taking Chantix and see your doctor right away. Tell your doctor which medicines you're taking as they may work differently when you quit smoking. Chantix dosing may be different if you have kidney problems. The most common side effect is nausea. Patients also reported trouble sleeping and vivid unusual or strange dreams. Until you know how Chantix may affect you, use caution when driving or operating machinery. Chantix should not be taken with other quit smoking products.

1:26:26 Yes, Chantix. It fucks you up. My Benjamin, he helped me with the countdown. Ben, how many days has it been? Five days, mom. Ten days, mom. I think after 30 days he got applied to counting. Talk to your doctor to find out if prescription Chantix is right for you. Ah, beautiful. Beautiful! And of course now that she's butchered all her kids and committed suicide. Just a beautiful thing. Anyway, so stay off the Chantix kids get on heroin the government supplying that too. It's good for you Natural it's not it's probably better for you. So the I'm just looking at the at the news reporting and amazement John over over the Louisiana spill the cleanup the

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

BP Oil Spill, Media Hyperbole and Scare Tactics

The hosts critique the media's "9/11" style framing of the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. They discuss a Rolling Stone article by Matt Taibbi and a report from a Russian professor predicting the spill could last 70 years. The segment suggests that the extreme environmental warnings are being used as a scare tactic to manipulate the public.

bp· gulf of mexico· rolling stone· matt taibbi· vladimir kucherov

1:27:13 the continued the the cams and the seem that have like twenty cams now i see different cams everywhere yeah what all those cams doing down there and and i and i always just have to question very much like you know why do we have cameras in the court when lindsey lohan is getting a scram bracelet prescribed why are they showing this this and then you know everywhere pundits are on television saying this is the new nine eleven And that just gets me thinking, like, okay, so what are we going to try and do with this new 9-11? We know what we did with the old 9-11. We started a couple wars. And I think that this is all... Maybe we're going to start a war with Great Britain. Yeah. No, I don't think so. Attack Canada. No, I don't think so. Well, first of all, the Rolling Stone magazine has a huge article

1:28:05 called the spill the scandal and the president which now I like all the the Matt Taibbi Rolling Stone articles about the financial industry right and I think he's really right on this is an eight page eight web page article written by Tim just some reason scrolled off Tim something or other But I don't like the way it starts off, you know, like immediately saying this is the largest disaster in the history of the world, which we have absolutely no proof of. And I'm not saying it's not true, but, you know, it's like no one has the actual number. They just keep, you know, it's just numbers and numbers and we can't... So there must be millions dead.

1:28:52 Well, so this is what's kind of disconcerting and I will take this to a place which I think is kind of interesting. So the guy didn't think much of World War I? No, but this is a natural disaster. World War I apparently was not a natural disaster. So he didn't think much about the Krakatoa blowing up and killing most of the life, well then that's a natural disaster. Or if Yellowstone goes off we're all dead. I mean, come on. Well, so there's this... Unless there's billions dead, I don't see it. Well, there's this report floating around and I think that this is all part of a big scare tactic. A report floating around from Vladimir Kucherov, professor at the Royal... I guess he's Russian. Yeah, professor at the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden and the Russian State University of Oil and Gas.

1:29:52 predicted the present oil spill flooding the gulf coast shores of the united states could go on for years and years and they have a diagram in this report this pdf where you literally see this oil spill flowing across the atlantic covering all of eastern europe just just there's the uh... ten thirty seven uh... covering all of eastern europe and it's essentially saying this is going to kill the world And it will go on for 70 years with no end in sight. And I'm seeing a lot of this, you know, it's the biggest disaster. And there have been plenty of pretty big disasters, both oil and non-oil related. But it feels to me like everyone is on board with scaring the shit out of everybody about this. And of course, there's companies being demonized, which is just laughable. Like, yeah, if we topple BP, like that's going to end it.

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Blue Stream 2, Israeli-Turkish Flotilla and Gas Geopolitics

The hosts link the recent Israeli raid on a Turkish flotilla to a larger geopolitical struggle over natural gas. They suggest the incident is related to the Blue Stream 2 pipeline and Russia's attempt to control gas supplies to Israel. This energy conflict is framed as a precursor to a potential war involving Iran and Saudi Arabia.

blue stream 2· israel· turkey· russia· natural gas· iran

1:30:48 like no and then I start to see some interesting reporting from the oil cabal and this is what truly concerns me while all of this is taking place and everyone's all scared and there's all this stuff going on the the oil and gas cabal is just marching ahead and I believe that this uh flotilla incident um with the uh Israeli the force the defense forces um When the Turkish boat the Turkish boat, that's there. It's something like seven of those boats I mean nobody reported on the other ones which are all turned back right and this there's some now a High-quality video of the attack which is not of the attack. It's of people being brought down wounded So you don't actually see the attack is like shitty video and it doesn't matter I mean something bad went down there no doubt about it, but I believe that this is a part of the cutoff

1:31:52 of gas to Israel from Russia. And this is part of the Blue Stream 2 natural gas line that was supposed to run, there's already a Blue Stream 1, supposed to run across the Black Sea from Russia to Turkey with an extension to Israel. And now that's being cut off. So Israel, of course, needs gas. And where are they going to get it from? There's Iran, which seems unlikely unless maybe they go and do something to Iran, which now apparently has been approved by Saudi Arabia, has given Israel clear skies to fly over and attack the Iranian nuclear sites. And I'm thinking it's time for a war, John. It's just time for another war.

1:32:50 because this is what the oil cabal does we've got well we're getting i think that the act as we showed last on the last show the activity in Afghanistan is going to wind down fast. In fact, Karzai even said these guys might as well leave because they got this man's having no effect. And I think you're right. I think the pipelines installed cars eyes in control of it. It's all taken care of. Right. And then the drug channels have been said we've already harvested. It's done. Yeah, that's like if we need to re harvest, we'll just send another surge over there so we can get some shit in. But yeah, I agree. I think you're totally right. By the summer we can start leaving Afghanistan because it's done. The pipeline is in. It's all taken care of. Next. So do we have to have two actions going on all the time for some unknown reason now? Is that because of the way the economy is set up or we have that many soldiers? We have the biggest army in the world and they've got to do something with them.

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Oil Cabal, Enron and Global Economic Interests

The hosts argue that the global economy is driven by an "oil cabal" that includes major banks like JP Morgan. They note that Enron was involved in the original Blue Stream pipeline and that Vladimir Putin is currently consolidating Russia's energy influence in Europe. The BP spill is viewed as a distraction from the continued expansion of deep-water drilling and rising oil prices.

enron· jp morgan· bp· oil prices· vladimir putin

1:33:45 well we can have them coming back here no they have to go somewhere and of course uh... oh by the way it was not forget the hundred million dollar base that is now built in there or being built in afghanistan so it's all set i mean that that's just done and if you don't think this is about oil and natural resources like gas you're crazy you're crazy so uh... by the way blue stream the original blue stream you know who uh... financed part of that and built it and run Who? Enron. Oh. So they set up the original blue stream. These guys were pretty nice, as we know. So if we have an armed conflict... I think we have a perfect storm. The European Union, United States of Europe has a collapsing economy. The World Bank and the IMF are all over the place now. They're happy to bring up some shekels for a new war. Great way to have the dollar recover, of course.

1:34:47 The Russians are happy to sell some guns and shit to everybody. Because they're winning. The Russians are winning in this game. Their exports of oil and gas, they control Europe now. They control it. Yeah, how ironic. Yeah. And it's so hard to explain because these things are set up over decades of time, but it is all about oil. and natural gas. Every single bit of it. Putin was in France the other day hanging out with Sarkozy and Carla Bruni talking about the gas they'll be supplying. Everyone's just like wool pulled over our eyes. It's terrorists, damn terrorists. And now we're going to have to

1:35:40 It's just it's lame and I think that there's probably if anything increased drilling taking place now off the offshore drilling. It's a big scam and all there's over 3,000 wells in the Gulf of Mexico and almost I think 75 to 80 are deep water just like the one that blew out. Now there's a moratorium on them right now so they're not supposed to be drilling which of course is really killing the economy there. uh... really really really killing and all we hear about is the shrimp i had some shrimp the other day that were shrimp expensive mickey did with a more expensive than normal the shrimp no this is no choice by seventeen pieces of shrimp but something was close to ask about not sixteen nineteen seventeen what lucky number that's a very lucky number seventeen shrimp the seventeen shrimp club uh...

1:36:37 But you know, it's like, and people are really incessantly angry about all the wrong things. They're yelling at a company which is no more than office that pushes paper back and forth, it's called BP. It's run by people who are bankers, just bankers. And they don't actually do anything but just hand out contracts to other companies to go drill. And these companies, you know what, someone goes bankrupt, we just take out the profits beforehand. Oh, sorry, it's gone. No responsibility. BP, no problem. They can go, they can be, who was, Rosie O'Donnell was calling for it to be nationalized. Oh, please. This is like the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Nationalize what? BP. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, what would the end of nationalize? Nothing.

1:37:26 Absolutely nothing because they don't do anything. They just push money around the biggest oil company is JP Morgan They actually have oil and this is just a whole ploy and in 18 months We'll see $100 plus barrel and oil and it's it's and we're just gonna get fucked again. Well, that's the way it goes I we're in the wrong business. We should have been in the oil business cuz you don't have to do any real work apparently No, you just drill some holes And then hold on to the stuff until it's time to sell at the right price. And please keep your eye on this magic number called inventories. I have a short clip here on the EU economics from the Newsnight show that's

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EU Economics, German Austerity and Military Cuts

Economists debate Germany's refusal to increase spending, which some fear will lead to a "double-dip" recession in Europe. Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates urges NATO allies not to cut military budgets. The hosts suggest these budget cuts might provide the U.S. with a catalyst to finally withdraw from Afghanistan.

germany· european union· robert gates· nato· afghanistan

1:38:07 just kind of verifies the fact that apparently Germany is doing everything wrong. At least everybody agrees. Of course, that doesn't mean anything. Because apparently the German economists are so freaked out about the hyperinflation years back, you know, when they screwed up in the 20s. Yeah, it was pretty bad though, you know. Yeah, but it's a different circumstance and you can't necessarily duplicate that by, you know, so they won't follow any policies that even hint of anything back when. So, you end up with this. Play this little EU economics clip. I don't think it caught the whole thing, unfortunately. For a double dip, as you have been illustrating in your program. Erwin Stelzer, I mean, are Germany doing the right thing? No. Clearly not. No, they're doing the wrong thing. Well, there's a point of agreement, Erwin Stelzer.

1:38:58 I agree, that's unusual. No, they're not. I mean the fact of the matter is that everybody's in a difficult situation and everybody has a solution but they're not giving you the timing. What has to happen is first you have to present a plan that persuades the markets that over time you will cut the spending and get your deficit under control. You can't cut 5% of GDP out of the European economy and expect Not to have terrible consequences Germany has to be the consumer of last Anyway, he says they have to be the consumer of last resort. They're trying to Increase imports and some other crazy things that are just apparently everyone's upset about because they're really the leading economy over there Oh, yeah. Well, they say in Europe when when Germany catches a cold the rest of Europe gets influenza and

1:39:50 uh... and robert gates was in brussels he's our uh... secretary of defense he was the same secretary of defense for bush i might add interesting guy not to change when you're looking for some hope uh... and change yeah he was begging uh... our nato allies not to cut military budgets because they're all like well you know as a part of the saving europe we we we gotta cut back on troops and so america you gotta take care of it and uh... you know we just got a cut it off and he's like that you can't do that this is this is you do you terrorism their own terror yeah so there are european nato members are preparing for deep cuts in military spending

1:40:36 prompting US officials to express concern the gap in military power will grow which I think is exactly what these bastards want. We'll take care of it, don't worry about it. Maybe, John, oh interesting, maybe this will be the catalyst for getting out of Afghanistan by saying, well look, no one's bellying up, why should we be doing it? We're going to get out. Could be. I think it's actually in this article. uh... pentagon officials voice concern the united states could be would be bearing a larger burden in the war in afghanistan or future nato missions according to the washington post yet that means we just call the shots that takes place yet or just call it call it a day and get out and well they're definitely going to get out so um... i'll i've got an interesting if you want to change topics sure i found the uh...

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Sedentary Behavior, Health Risks of Sitting

New research suggests that prolonged sitting is a distinct health hazard, independent of exercise habits. A news report claims that sitting for just two hours can increase blood sugar and decrease "good" cholesterol. The laundry list of risks includes diabetes, heart disease, and various cancers, leading the hosts to suspect a future pharmaceutical "fix" for sedentary lifestyles.

sitting· sedentary behavior· diabetes· cardiovascular disease· health research

1:41:35 Well, there's a clip. I think we've got a new danger ahead of us. Only one? Wait, it's not homegrown terrorism, is it? It's worse. Sitting. Play the clip, sitting is bad. Sitting back and relaxing on the couch this weekend, you might want to think again. Kelly Crowe reports on new research that says sitting can be dangerous to your health. It might not look like cutting-edge science watching an 11-year-old girl watching TV, but it's pioneer research into the health effects of sitting. There's some evidence to suggest that that is enough to increase their blood sugar, to decrease their good cholesterol, and to have a real impact on their health. Just by sitting there for two hours watching TV? Yeah. They could be hurting themselves. They could, yeah, absolutely. I'm going to measure your blood pressure, okay?

1:42:21 Researchers have already learned that prolonged sitting has unique effects on the body. Some of them are completely separate and distinct from those that we get from exercise or structured physical activity. So what you're saying is that something different is happening when you're sedentary than when you're moving. That's right. And those things could be harmful to your health. That's right. okay so uh... was killing me i'm sitting for two hours this show we got a cut the time definitely so so take so there's laundry list cuz this by the way ran today uh... and his part and then ran in the morning on a sunday i'm thinking this is a this is a salvo in other words we don't have this do they're still working on the pitch i don't know what the point of it is to get people off their butts but something's coming something's up

1:43:09 or there's a pill or a vaccine or something. But just listen to this clip, the laundry list of dangers of sitting. It's unbelievable. There is evidence that sitting alters metabolism. It changes the way the body metabolizes fat and sugars in the body. It increases the risk of diabetes, causes higher blood pressure, increases the risk of developing dangerous abdominal fat. increases the risk of cardiovascular disease, colon cancer, endometrial cancer, causes a decrease in bone density so it increases the risk of osteoporosis, it's harmful to vascular health, affects brain function, and overall research is showing that more time spent sitting is related to an increase in deaths from all causes. Okay, this has got to... What?

1:43:57 The best ever! This is worse than that, the nominee list in one of those porn shows. This is amazing! It's basically the leading cause of death, if I understand it properly. Yeah, it's the leading cause of death. Sitting around. so we don't know we don't know what uh... what this fixes yet but i'm sure it'll be something's made i'm sure it'll have a vaccine like nature the or in this be some drug company involved but i mean i was just shaking my head over this one the leading cause of death is sitting on your ass but bill made eleven unbelievable uh... i read i read a uh... in the chicago tribune uh... new concerns arise over body scanners

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TSA Body Scanners, Privacy and Security Consultants

The Chicago Tribune reports on the widespread acceptance of full-body scanners at airports despite initial privacy concerns. Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff is noted for his role in promoting the technology while representing the vendors. The hosts criticize the use of these machines to detect small amounts of drugs rather than actual threats to aviation security.

tsa· body scanners· michael chertoff· airport security· privacy

1:44:45 And what I found interesting is that we've completely passed by the whole point of why people were against this in the first place and we now have just accepted it lock, stock and barrel. machines best known for the privacy issues they pose because they can peer through clothes and present screeners with an image that some have likened to a virtual strip search. The government has addressed those concerns by obscuring the faces of those screened, preventing examiners from seeing the passengers and allowing the option of a physical pat-down. So instead of

1:45:25 What they initially said, you can't see someone naked. They're now saying, we just make it so you can't see their face. Who cares? I know, but it's like this. I just want to see him naked. Oh, here comes another hottie. Let's see what she looks like. Hey guys, come over here. Come over and check this one out. And no one is outraged. I can't believe it. No, but you know, it's just like, what happened? What happened to the anger over that? It's just no one gives a crap and now, and this article is just, it's fantastic. So now you have all these consultants, well you know, I can overcome the body scanners with enough explosives to bring down a Boeing 747 said Rafi Sela, former chief security officer at the Israeli airport authority who is now a security consultant selling some other thing. And so the article goes on and on and on, it brings in Michael Chertoff,

1:46:23 and his, who was an advocate for the imagers, he had been representing vendors, marketing the technology, but no longer does that. Yeah, you already made the deal, you already sold it, your contract's over. And then at the very end, in testing, in a testing center at Washington's Reagan National Airport, another consultant, showed a reporter photos of small items that had been detected on passengers, including a one-inch square packet of cocaine. Not all of these were in easy to find places, they were artfully concealed to get past security, he said. Well, excuse me, but airport security is not to bust me for my blow. Airport security is to secure the plane.

1:47:17 But this is what it's all about. It's, it's, what is this? And they made a big deal about you're not supposed to be busting people for their whatever, you know, have a marijuana joint or something on them. Yeah, but they're gonna and it's like, yeah, of course they are. The whole thing's a scam. It was a smoke screen. You just kind of keep approaching the problem, you keep approaching the problem, you let it kind of boil up and then simmer down, boil up, simmer down, pretty soon the water's all gone, there's no boiling anymore and they can do whatever they want. I think we just need to play the jingle. All aboard, trains good, planes bad, woohoo! And of course we'll have none of this when we're all on board the high-speed train to the FEMA camp. There will be no testing at all, keep your shoes on, not a problem whatsoever.

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Fat China, One-Child Policy and Spoiled Brats

China is facing a growing obesity crisis among its youth, attributed to the rise of Western fast food and the "six-pocket syndrome." Author Paul French discusses his book "Fat China," which explores how the one-child policy has created a generation of "little emperors" who are lavished with food and attention. The hosts compare this to the development of "spoiled brats" in the West.

china· obesity· mcdonald's· paul french· one-child policy

1:48:00 Yeah, and of course that will be go by the wayside too and they'll be the same crap and just sell more of these stupid machines to get on the damn train. We had a couple other funny emails about trains good, planes bad. I'll just leave them for what they are. And you got any more clips? Are you done? I got a couple clips but we can put them off. No, no, let's do it. Let's wrap it up. You got something funny? I got a couple interesting ones here. Apparently everyone's getting fat in China. and uh... have to shift to clips and see what we have some all that rice please uh... fat china's one of them with his the for the beginning clip only a traditional think i got a big is i get it get by amusing i'd like to have a a laugh out of this report was on our national treasure the pbs uh... operation and it was so play traditional thinking

1:48:57 Traditional thinking in China is that children need to be fat and that means the child is healthy and strong. This concept of course is wrong. Western fast food restaurants have become part of urban Chinese culture. I just want to know what everybody's favorite food is at McDonald's. Hamburger. So I love the idea of traditional thinking is that you only do like what 30,000 years of culture but this is wrong. Yeah right. Not like us telling the Chinese that they're wrong. Hey, hey, just because you guys have been around like two and a half thousand years more than we have, you're wrong. You're wrong dude. Rachel Maddow says you're wrong. So anyway, so they're having a fat crisis in China and so this clip Fat China which introduces a writer who's got a book coming out called Fat China which I think is just a great name for a book. It shows a big fat kid on the cover.

1:49:55 It kind of just summarizes the whole thing, what the problem is. And it's kind of interesting because you always have to remember that when there's a revolution, revolutionary movements are never really caused by the peasants. It's always caused by a growing middle class of people that may want more than the current government can deliver. developing a kind of a generation after generation of spoiled brats in china uh... it may become a problem for us somewhere down the road i think we're leading the way on that are we like showing the chinese how it's done with spoiled brats oh yeah and paul french is the author of a soon to be released book titled

1:50:33 Fat China. They are extremely proud and what we have here of course is a one-child policy which is not enforced everywhere, but it's still the norm. So now we have a generation coming through that not only have no siblings but have no aunts and uncles. This has led to what we might term here the six-pocket syndrome, which is where every child or little emperor as they're known here has, you know, two parents and four grandparents. And those four grandparents and two parents don't really have anything to spend their money on except that child. So they are lavishing that child. They are arguably spoiling that one child. And of course, after generations of not having enough, people don't want to say no to children. They want to give them everything. They want to let them enjoy the prosperity rather than the ausperity that they knew in their childhood.

1:51:21 According to the World Health Organization, between 5 and 10 percent of Chinese youth are now obese. So this is an interesting developing problem that will bite somebody in the ass. Well it's a tee up. I think it's a tee up and I'll tell you why. Three days ago, and by the way, I haven't seen this on the news, and you know how I love Whitehouse.gov. It's like Marvel Comics to me. I love watching the president's speech. I love seeing the proclamations is my favorite section of the site. So while we were all looking at the oil spill cam, the blowout preventer cam, Thursday, June 10th, a new executive order was passed or established, I should say, the National Prevention, Health Promotion and Public Health Council.

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Executive Order, National Prevention Council and Lifestyle Modification

President Obama issued an executive order establishing the National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council. The council is tasked with "lifestyle behavior modification" targeting smoking, nutrition, and "sedentary behavior." The hosts link this to the "nanny state" and the mainstreaming of monitoring technology like Lindsay Lohan's SCRAM alcohol-monitoring bracelet.

barack obama· executive order· lifestyle behavior modification· lindsay lohan· scram bracelet

1:50:33 Fat China. They are extremely proud and what we have here of course is a one-child policy which is not enforced everywhere, but it's still the norm. So now we have a generation coming through that not only have no siblings but have no aunts and uncles. This has led to what we might term here the six-pocket syndrome, which is where every child or little emperor as they're known here has, you know, two parents and four grandparents. And those four grandparents and two parents don't really have anything to spend their money on except that child. So they are lavishing that child. They are arguably spoiling that one child. And of course, after generations of not having enough, people don't want to say no to children. They want to give them everything. They want to let them enjoy the prosperity rather than the ausperity that they knew in their childhood.

1:51:21 According to the World Health Organization, between 5 and 10 percent of Chinese youth are now obese. So this is an interesting developing problem that will bite somebody in the ass. Well it's a tee up. I think it's a tee up and I'll tell you why. Three days ago, and by the way, I haven't seen this on the news, and you know how I love Whitehouse.gov. It's like Marvel Comics to me. I love watching the president's speech. I love seeing the proclamations is my favorite section of the site. So while we were all looking at the oil spill cam, the blowout preventer cam, Thursday, June 10th, a new executive order was passed or established, I should say, the National Prevention, Health Promotion and Public Health Council.

1:52:21 so as you know the uh... president with the authority vested in him as president uh... by the constitution the laws of the united states of america uh... has uh... issued the following executive order now section five of this executive order details the president's national prevention and health promotion strategy with a council which will be charged with carrying out quote lifestyle behavior modification Amongst American citizens that do not exhibit healthy behavior. Oh, yes, John here it comes And and I'm tying this into Lindsay Lohan you watch the president's desired lifestyle lifestyle behavior modifications focus on the following areas smoking cessation proper nutrition appropriate exercise mental health behavioral health Sedentary behavior. What the hell is that?

1:53:21 sitting. Really? Yeah. Said it really? Yeah, that's what the sitting things about what is sedentary mean? What it was not moving. It's like sediment. There you go. Substance Use Disorder and domestic violence screenings. Now, He's going to create another one of his famous advisory groups, which of course will be experts handpicked from the public health field and other areas of expertise outside the federal government, i.e. big pharma. And their orders are, their marching orders are to actively carry out the following, worksite health promotion,

1:54:01 community services. Sounds like the communist Chinese of the 50s. Stand by. Community services including community health centers, the gathering center, preventative medicine, those would be your vaccines against smoking, health coaching, public health education, geriatrics and rehabilitation medicine. This is it. This is the big one. And when I hear from the Draeger Center in Texas, from my deep throat, these are the people who make the interlock, that they are now planning on making interlocks for drug testing and in future possibly nicotine. It all comes together, doesn't it? All of a sudden it makes sense. You just be a guy, you don't become, we don't want to be like China. Bunch of fat Chinese running around. Oh no. We don't want you sitting on your ass. Oh no. We're going to make you healthy.

1:54:56 We're going to give you medicine so you don't smoke. We're going to take away all the things you need like salt and you will obey, slave. Well, you know, that's great. I really appreciate you ending the show on a top beat note. I couldn't help it. It just came in. I love WhiteHouse.gov. These guys are awesome. So tell me that we are not in the nanny state of all nanny states when you hear this shit. Oh totally, that's the worst. And I've gotten a couple of emails from people saying, hey man what you talking about Lindsay Lohan, that's so lame man, I don't want the real news, I want news man, what's going on? This is the news. You are being indoctrinated and it's happening before your very eyes. The fact, and ooh just add on to it that Lindsay's scram bracelet went off. Scram bracelet is now in the vocabulary.

1:55:58 Everyone knows what this is and if you're going to have it for for smoking you're gonna have it for all you know for cholesterol You're gonna have it for sitting on your ass. They'll have a sitting on your ass bracelet They will go off when you're sitting on your ass and your health care premiums will go up probably because you're sitting on your ass God knows what the plan is, but this is not okay No, this is not okay. Excuse me. I got to play I don't see Curry's painting all day That was good. That's a pet peeve. That is totally a pet peeve. Kinda.

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Show Wrap-Up, Gitmo Nation Sign-Off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode by encouraging listeners to visit Dvorak.org/NA to support the show. They emphasize the importance of monitoring official sources like WhiteHouse.gov to stay ahead of government indoctrination. The hosts sign off from their respective "command centers," promising to return for the next "early service" on Thursday.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· whitehouse.gov· no agenda

1:56:35 So it has the screaming emotion that I usually get into well I'm sick from sitting on my ass, which is how you need a scram brace that to get you off your butt But Joel some around the neck it does doesn't it make sense though when you hear the sitting on your on your ass thing That's a part of it the salt the nicotine the drinking. It's like what happened Why can't we just be fat ugly? Bastard beer drinking smoking Americans at Disneyland. That's what I'm proud of damn it. I It has it's paid off so far. Why we want to change it? I Think that should wrap it up then I I think you're I want to remind people out there that this kind of information You're not gonna get it anyplace else. You're not gonna get it from the phonies out there who do kind of just all conspiracy stuff and We have our share, but you know at least the stuff comes with I mean Whitehouse gov I mean it's you could kind of we can't say they were not getting the information from good sources and

1:57:33 and also we have moles everywhere so go to Dvorak.org slash NA and help us out keep us keep us going. And stay awake America and all in the world and yeah all I was gonna say all countries of Gitmo Nation because the same thing is taking place where you are and look all we're doing is sitting on our ass and telling you about it people much younger and more energetic than ourselves shall have to go do something about it Right John? Fat Kids from China. It's not only a great book, I think it would make a great screenplay. Fat China. Fat Kids from China. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center where June Gloom has cleared up a little bit and I'm running a slight fever. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley,

1:58:25 I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again Thursday morning for another early service right here on NO Agenda.