Topic: Open Primary

Jonathan Capehart and David Brooks engage in a rare heated debate regarding whether Kamala Harris should "earn" the nomination through a mini-primary. Brooks argues that a lack of testing in the primaries weakened Biden and could hobble Harris, while Capehart fiercely defends her record as Vice President. The discussion also touches on the word "shambolic" to describe the potential for a disorganized Democratic process.

The hosts speculate on how a candidate like Alvin Greene could win a major primary, suggesting it may be a result of voter apathy or intentional "joker" votes. They discuss the mechanics of open primaries in California and South Carolina, where independent voters can influence party outcomes. The segment concludes with a transition to the BP oil spill coverage.