The Reluctant Spy

00:00 What garbage? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's May 21st, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 201. This is no agenda. Constantly dodging to the head and coming to you from the hilltop watchtower at Crackpot Command Center in Gibbon Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. We still have power in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And Adam has left Northern Silicon Valley and so it's sun is shining and things are bright. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. It's true. I'm there for three days. Rain.

00:41 Yeah, it's infuriating. There's no rain today. It's beautiful out. Yeah, it was beautiful here too. The last couple of times you've come up here it has uh... You've brought the rain with you but there was no rain to bring. How did you do that? Yeah, no, there was rain on Monday. It was really bad in Los Angeles. So I brought it over on Monday. It hung around for a bit and now it's gone. Alright, well maybe you should travel more. Yeah, now there's an idea. More travel. I have to say I was on the Southwest last night. I love that airline. Why? Well because they have a very cavalier attitude about their passengers. Basically, hi we don't care about you, sit down. And I like that and then they always do the fun stuff on the PA announcement which I think is really good. Not always but often. Well this Burbank... And if you have someone acting like a child... Yeah no they had a new one it was, it was guys, it was a full guy flight.

01:38 Should there be a drop in air pressure, Dolce & Gabbana oxygen mask will drop down in front of you. And they did like, please breathe normally. That should sound something like this. So that was funny and then on approach yeah on approach into into Burbank we had a lot of crosswinds so it must have been about 10 minutes of you know bumpy you know just like really bumping all the way down and you know the it kind of gets quiet and I'm obviously I'm a pilot so I don't give a crap and then, let's say, like three more minutes to run, the guy comes on and says, just as a courtesy, the barf bags are located in this deep pocket in front of you. Like, that's really good because people get really, they get nauseous basically because of anxiety and of course the motion sickness as well, but you could, the whole plane was like, ah, you know, we just relaxed and felt good for a moment. I think it's a good policy. Yeah, no, that's the way it should be. They adopted that, of course, from the original PSA airline.

02:38 which PSA used to be, there used to be a couple carriers on California called PSA and I think it was Western, the only way to fly. Was that Piedmont? Was that a part of that? No, Piedmont wasn't around here. and uh... i think that was in the south somewhere but anyway there was uh... western airlines and and psna and then and all of a sudden u s air and united decided they had to get into this commute business between san francisco and l a and by the way this is gonna happen to them it's high-speed train to go yeah and so uh... what the u s air bought p s a and and ran it for about

03:15 uh... your first thing is it took the state the place had a big smile painted on their face i remember that your first thing they did was take the smile off the face and they have to have a serious middle finger this is u s air I think the smile of the face of the planes and they banned all that. They're the ones who invented all that crazy talk, you know, that the stewardess was do you have someone acting like a child and all the rest of it? There's actually a whole bit. It's like it's very funny. There's several of them. Yeah, there's several. I'd like to they're probably documented someplace. I would if someone can find him, I'd like to see him. Anyway, so they banned that and then within a year and a half. They they just discontinued the whole Southern they just basically dropped the whole thing it was just like walked it was too many united You know it took its Western stuff and kind of incorporated into the regular flights And they didn't really did in the end of the day there was nothing Using two good carriers it just sucked oh

04:11 Southwest came into the market, you know copying kind of the PSA model the CEO will say that and You know just you could does a great job. Hey, did you see the all-star celebrity benefit for Iowa last night for Iowa? Yeah, you didn't see it. No, well, of course because there was none even though the whole place is flooded Oh, oh my god, you don't see no one knows this Iowa. It's like Katrina there. Oh The plate that Iowa is completely flooded houses washed away. They're demolishing houses Because they're all like jammed up against bridges and no one knows about it No, this is I did a Google News search like only local news and the pictures are astounding Hmm. It's it's it's like it's like the ninth ward and I'm just like and then someone sent me an email I was like what I didn't know this was happening and

05:05 So that's why I laid on my trick question on you, but I'm sure you're googling it right now. Yeah, but it just talks about the 2008 Iowa floods. No, no, no, no, no, no. Please. Please. Iowa flood watch 2008. Well, what are you googling? Iowa flood. I'm googling Iowa flooded. No, just do Iowa flood. Heavy rain, ra-da-da-da-da, trying to do towards the California Zephyr. Here, do Iowa floods 2010. Well, I guess they flood enough that nobody cares anymore. Yeah, but this is you know, they've got pictures of Like an Arby's, you know all the way up to the roof. Hmm. I'm looking at now the Des Moines Register has some good stuff Yeah, exactly. Hey, I'm just like How twisted are we? Well, let's see. Who's is it a Republican or a Democrat running in Iowa? But still, you know these people need help

06:04 No, no gosh, I'll see if anyone in the chat room is from Iowa But I guess there's no money there. I guess Well, they can't soak the American public with some you know faraway place Well, but I still think that you know, we had the big thing for Haiti I think we should have an Iowa all-star celebrity jam and But no. We should. No, of course we won't. Of course not, because you can't scam the money. Exactly. There's no way to... There's no way for... ...shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. So the thing is, is Culver, Chet Culver is a Democrat, so they should, you know, he should be able to get some action from the Obama administration, but I guess not. Maybe because Obama doesn't like Presbyterians.

06:58 I don't know what a president... I know it's a... Nobody knows what a presidentarian is. My parents at one point were Unitarians. Oh yeah, Unitarians are the ones who... it's kind of a... there's a bunch of... yeah, Unitarians don't believe in the Trinity. We went to the Unitarian church on Sundays. But then we'd also, on Easter, go up on a hill and then watch... No wonder I'm so messed up, listen to my childhood. On Easter Sunday, we'd all drive up before dawn, so not even crack of dawn, before that, and as the sun came up, someone played Cat Stevens' Morning Has Broken.

07:38 on a cassette player. No wonder I'm messed up. The Unitarians typically, like their Unitarian Church in Berkeley is the one that has the craziest speakers. It's the crackpot church basically. There you go. At least around here. Now I get it. Well I have found some interesting things going on in my little corner of Gitmo Nation, John. I'm trying to get let me make a few announcements before we do that of our producers I think that's an excellent idea do we have an executive producer for the show yeah, we have an executive producer and one two three four five Associates oh nice okay, but that's curiously about pretty much all we got Yeah, I think we tapped everybody out. We're done. You're like. I got that deuce thing I

08:34 Scrum see anyway. I want to thank a Dwayne Melancon from Tiggered, Oregon he felt the cosmic urge to donate by the other day on a flight for a day he gave us three thirty three thirty three on ice uh... i i felt the cosmic urge to donate the other day on a flight from portland in newark new jersey not a train ride that would be ridiculous i listened to a couple of no agenda episodes was still listening when i arrived at my hotel i pause the podcast may check me into room three three oh how can i ignore signal like that coincidentally i just heard you talk about how mon

09:10 Gummery Santos Monsanto has just donated 5510. This is my second installment toward knighthood. Oh It's not about the Monsanto thing Montgomery Santos. Hmm. Well, you know that the Haitians the Monsanto sent like tons and tons of genetically modified seeds to Haiti Yeah, we talked about that. So, you know what the Haitians are doing. I They're burning them. Good for them. They're doing a whole thing. What did they send? They sent 475 tons of hybrid corn seeds, vegetable seeds and the MPP.

09:57 has committed to burning the seeds and has called for a march to protest the corporation's presence in Haiti. Interesting they have a presence. I guess they said... Well, apparently the Haitians have more gumption than the American public. Hell yeah. So June 4th, which is World Environment Day, they will be staging an open protest against Monsanto. But I guess they have a presence there. So here's the seed and here's 10,000 of our guys. They will help you plant it. And we got also Jack Burns from Charlottesville, Virginia, $250 and he wants to thank you for not making a snide comment about something or other. And Firas Althabani, A-L-T-H-I-B-A-N-A. Say that again? Firas? It's probably Althabani. Althabani? Firas, and he's in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Oh, cool.

10:50 And he was complaining about the fact that we didn't mention that nobody... Stop with the Arab racism, which is Chris wasn't he said because we mentioned Israel only had one listener And we didn't mention the one listener and so that's racist now all of a sudden I don't know. I think he's misguided in this Commentary all right we have more viewer mail which I'll read later in the show LW corporation in Telluride, Colorado LW corporation that's $200 and John Brown in North Vancouver BC and I want to congratulate us on the show. He wanted to be added to the Deuce Club, but I think we've closed the Deuce Club. So he's going to be an associate producer instead, as will Mark Rieger, who gave us $200 in Munich. He's out of Munich, Deutschland, and he wants to be de-douched. Oh, my pleasure. You've been de-douched. And that's it for this week.

11:53 Even though we we kind of pre announced their status I think our house band Weezer is without a doubt the official PR associate of the week I Of course, I was twittering as I was watching them on George Lopez tonight the show that had Donald Trump on as a guest and and there was a Pat Wilcox Who I guess is like a part of the touring band? for Weezer and he was dressed up in his bunny suit with the crown and then in the morning sash and Which was pretty awesome although hard to see really in the in the way the director decided to show the band to the worst Oh my god. I mean come on. This is back to the late 80s. Yeah, it was yeah Well, I was like hey, I've done shows where they were the director does this stuff Yeah, not very good. No. It's very very rube

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13:41 Order! Mickey, say it with me! Shut up, Steve! The chat room goes wild. We get something to do. Yeah. Okay, so we got a lot of news this week that's kind of odd. Yes. And also we have a number of clips from the Miss USA propaganda. Extravaganza. This was outrageous! I mean, there's so much in this Miss USA thing. I mean it really is crossed over from pure entertainment of looking at hot chicks to actual subject of political debate. It was all subject, it was actually ridiculous and the funny thing is you know I want to say this to all you know of any course we the likelihood of any Miss USA candidate ever listening to us is probably pretty low on the scale. I would say when that happens it's time to quit our day jobs then we know we're in baby.

14:37 who had to know that there are probably ten overlooked women that are as hot let me know all the girls look great I mean from all the states, so I mean, so picking the top five, they never picked the best looking five. And they always try to get one dummy in there. There's probably at least five or six or seven of the women that were just overlooked because they, you know, I think they do a, this show's rigged. I think they do, can you, will you be able to take a year off? No, I'm going to law school, I can't take a year off. There's probably about five to 10 girls in there that are probably close to being geniuses. yeah they have PhDs and they're extremely intelligent. Just because a girl's good looking doesn't mean she's a dummy. In fact the likelihood is the opposite. And there's probably a bunch of them. So they had to find the five and the five they brought up, of course they got the one multi-culti girl which they gave the award to which was kind of, you know, seemed kind of suspicious. And is she a Muslim?

15:35 well you know that's interesting because at first uh... she was supposed to be a muslim christian combination of some sort but she is a muslim yes because i i got reports from gitmo nation lowlands and i actually put in the show notes that say quote america is very proud that uh... they're so integrated now that uh... uh... that a muslim became miss usa america is proud like yes she's the second corrupt girl to win this thing apparently meant that the first out now muslim but she She's uh, you know, I don't think that became a big issue, but I'm sure she's you know I'm almost thinking this thing is like a setup for some future event where she's gonna be touring, you know She's gonna tour around she's gonna be in the Miss Universe pageant and some I can just imagine somebody at you know quote-unquote attacking her

16:23 and making it becoming a lot of news and more publicity for Trump's organization. Which is pretty much what he does. He's basically a promoter, a P.T. Barnum of sorts. and I would say, and you can put this down and make a note for the, I told you so, this woman is going to be, there's going to be an incident. And she will be decrowned? No, I don't think that's going to, I think the decrowning thing may be put off because they already showed her by a strippers pole and I think that's not going to, I don't think the decrowning is going to happen. I think she's going to be attacked. for her not being a Islamist. Oh, she doesn't wear burka. And she shows off her body in a bikini which is going to cause a problem and it's going to cause a lot of attention and of course when it comes to the Miss Universe show where she'll be as representative of the USA, they'll get a lot of attention and get more viewers. So this is a scam waiting to happen.

17:28 so that's where I see it. Alright, so we don't want to do any clips now, right? We want to keep that for later? No, if you want to, I mean, we can get into the Miss USA contest. I really don't care. I think it's too light. There's too many good things going on like the use of prison labor now by the Indians and their outsourcing. What? Wait a minute, so the next guy I get on customer support could be an inmate? Hi, I'm having you on customer support. Can you help me escape? I have a couple of catch-up stories and I also have stories about catch-up. But I have some catch-up stories which are... Bye bye darling, have a good time. Which are rather interesting. Trains first or planes? You choose. Let's go with... Alex, planes. You want to go with planes first? Okay. So, of course, we know by now the meme is planes bad, trains good.

18:28 Let me just I'm gonna go down the list of horrible plane stories because you know, they really suck they pollute the atmosphere the The airways are full and you have to take your shoes off according to our president So the planes just blow and then I'm gonna play you an audio clip, which is I think astounding. So first of all News now that from the audio recording, the cockpit voice recorder in the Polish president's plane which crashed and half the government perished with him, prior to landing there were two, well one identified, but there were two other people in the cockpit.

19:10 And the way the BBC spins the story is they were probably pressuring the crew to land. Yeah, I'm thinking. Let me tell you one thing. When you're landing, you don't want anyone in the cockpit. Everyone shuts up. There's like no talking going on because that is the most intense moment of the entire flight. There's not gonna be people visiting like what a perfect time to hang around the cockpit of course It's very of course It's very difficult to hear what they are saying on the cockpit voice recorder of which no data has been released so I think we can officially call that a full-on tooth and a head notice two cartridges fall today

19:49 So that's just kind of a side note a plane crashed in Afghanistan, which no one heard about completely under reported news Including several British nationals. We don't know who and there's no further reporting on it whatsoever in Kabul 44 people on a Does it say what kind of aircraft? No, so there's nothing we don't know anything except they were British national. So that's suspicious TSA news, scientists question safety of the new airport scanners. I think this is a plant. This is on our national treasure, NPR. This is probably just to scare you more about the whole flying experience, but indeed, you know, there's of course no data if these things are safe for you or not. And then we've got this guy who I do not like for the Wall Street Journal, Andy Pastor. And this guy, he's got to be on the Hill and Knowlton payroll. I'm just going to call him out.

20:47 He is reporting on two incidents which are not reported by the NTSB, of course all incidents are reported to the NTSB no matter what it is. He's claiming that twice Planes took off and they forgot to start a couple of their engines and they had to abort the takeoff because they didn't couldn't get enough Speed due to lack of power obviously which by the way I don't think is completely true depending on the type of aircraft you may still be able to take off And he's reporting it like oh, this is horrible, and it's crazy, and it's because pilots are distracted. They're distracted by Economic pressures and things yeah, yeah, oh yeah, what yeah?

21:32 Concerns about the engine blunders come at a time when pilot professionalism, particularly among flying crews for commuter carriers, already is under public microscope. The safety board is advocating, among other things, voluntary programs to get pilots and controllers to take greater responsibility by establishing self-regulating standards of conduct. Now there's this whole thing. Wow, that's a bogus story. Yeah, but the guy is, I think, I really beli- he lives in Los Angeles. I should look him up. Through a pass door? Yeah, I should hit him in the mouth. So, you know, and it's like, let me tell you something. When you're taking off, I just know, happen to know about these things. That's why it irritates me when I read these stories. You know, like you got four engines, let's say. It's worse if you have two, you know, oh, I forgot to start an engine. And there's two people up there. Yeah. And when there's a checklist and it just doesn't work that way, you know, you, you, it's like, you know, if you, if you notice when you, before you take off, um, the, the, uh, the captain will,

22:31 Push the throttle forward a little bit and then he'll push it all the way forward. And that's A, so the engines don't fly off or get ripped off the wings because you don't just want to hammer it metal to metal as we call it. But then the minute they do that first little bump, they're looking at all the gauges. They're looking at every single engine, all the temperatures, the N1s, and then when you go, then they're waiting for airspeed indicators. I mean, this is a well-known procedure. Every pilot does it. You're not just going to forget and then actually start rolling and, oh, hey, we got no speed. I forgot to turn on the engine. Bull crap. Bull crap. Bull, bull, bull crap. That is a bull crap story.

23:09 And then I love this one, Hill and Knowlton is all, they're really trying to screw the airlines. From USA Today, they had a couple of stories. One, airline cockpit fires prompting emergency landing. And I have not heard of this yet, but apparently on some aircraft, I think it's air buses, the windshield heater can catch fire. So I you know, there's the fire and fire right? It's not like maybe something smoking and that's possible But this doesn't seem like a huge a huge problem it being in USA today. I'm suspicious, but this one caught my eye Power outlets for coach airline passengers tough to come by so the whole thing is if you're a business traveler Yeah, it really sucks to be on the plane because you can't get a power outlet Yeah, I might have to dry your hair

24:02 and uh... and then this is a my favorite is an audio clip by the way what's new what's news about that what was there's no zero news the whole thing it that it's setting and we've never had power outlets i mean they've they've tried a two or three times i know united had him for a while and i think somebody else's got and they're on and off again it's anyone who's been traveling a business class or first class or whatever over the last decade has not seen a consistent carrier that has power outlets and some of them have those little crazy laptop plug-ins that like a car cigarette lighter. Right, well you pay 50 bucks for those. And half the time those aren't working. This is not news. No, but it's a setup. That's why. It's a PR release from Hill & Knowlton.

24:46 No doubt about it. You know, it's like oh, I mean, that's why we've been bitching about laptop power for ages But it's even Microsoft came out with a little thing of their new hotmail service and you see people on the train Because you know, it's so handy on the train anyway Rob Robin Maiden is a friend of mine. He's a captain on some big iron for Delta Airlines and he does a couple of podcasts and And he also does an internal podcast called Delta Flight Ops 411. And I really appreciate what Robin has done because he can't just, you know, do stuff. He went the official route with Delta who apparently are reasonably cool. So whenever he does one of these he has to go through channels and get it approved and, you know, it takes a while to get these things out. So this report is, goes back to right after the original Ashmageddon incident

25:42 And he interviewed the chief meteorologist for Delta Airlines. This is the guy who was responsible for basically keeping these pilots and passengers safe for the airlines. He's got like army data. I mean, the guy has got a command center that's awesome. And so, you know, the perfect guy to go and talk to, I've got two short clips here, it's about a minute, about the realities of Ashmageddon closing down all air travel in Europe because of the the Icelandic volcano, yes, the ash cloud. Here's the first clip which is interesting to listen to. Now you said you were basing some of your charts on actual satellite imagery and on some proprietary military information.

26:34 So was there real data that they were using at the VAAC or were the airlines getting real data? What's the difference there between the two approaches? It's a real good point. It was completely theoretical that the Volcanic Ash Advisory Center was using. They had no observational information that was being plugged into the model. So they weren't, and they didn't have a process for verifying their theoretical dispersion. Also, they didn't have any measurements at the volcano summit regarding the volume and content of what was going up in the air. So they did the best they could

27:20 But it was all assumptions. Okay, so they made it up. Sounds like global warming. Yeah, well it's the same people who brought you global warming. The Volcanic Ash Advisory Center is a part of the Met Office in the United Kingdom. Now, Robin asked a very smart question because of course he was flying when Mount St. Helena Blew up it was like the whole side of the of that thing blew off right? Oh, yeah, so how do we compare the Icelandic eruption to? The one is Portland right mount st. Helen. No it's outside of Seattle. It's outside of Seattle. Sorry here we go now on a Relative scale how does this volcanic eruption compared to one that I remember you know Mount st. Helens it pales in comparison to the volume of ash

28:09 the whole side of the Mount St. Helens was completely blown off and there was much larger volume of material pumped up into the atmosphere. How was the impact to the airspace of Mount St. Helens as compared to the impact to the airspace with this one in Iceland? That's an excellent point to look towards on a comparison on how that was handled. The area right around Mount St. Helens airspace was not used. There was a plume that

28:51 close to the eruption area was avoided. But there was no closing of airspace over the entire US and the authority and responsibility of the airlines to identify that area and make a judgment call on how close to operate to it was left up to the airlines. There you go. So Iceland pales in comparison, yet they shut down all European airspace. Yeah, and I remember the St. Helens shutdown. It was like the Iceland shutdown appears to be going past 800 miles from the volcano, which is the distance essentially from Seattle to San Francisco.

29:39 and in the case of the uh... mount st helens pretty much with the only area that was a no-fly zone was between uh... that mountain itself and spokane which was but i don't know a hundred fifty miles or something like that the most and uh... the rest of the area was uh... pretty wide open so this is yeah i think you're a i think This is some something else going on with this is a bogus situation Well, the only thing I can think of is it's to destroy the airlines, you know, the another shutdown occurred earlier this week We still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. I think I got it wide effort. Well, I think you know

30:17 You know, Richard Branson is the only one in Europe really being vocal, which of course is really his job. And he's saying this is bullcrap, this is total, total nonsense. There's no reason you have to shut down, there is no danger. And he's getting no play, you know, when he jumps off a building with a playboy on his back, you know, it's like, oh, Richard Branson so kooky. But when he actually says something that's intelligent, you know, they give him no airtime whatsoever. And I think they're out to destroy him, destroy, if not just him, certainly the airline industry. This is a huge

29:39 and in the case of the uh... mount st helens pretty much with the only area that was a no-fly zone was between uh... that mountain itself and spokane which was but i don't know a hundred fifty miles or something like that the most and uh... the rest of the area was uh... pretty wide open so this is yeah i think you're a i think This is some something else going on with this is a bogus situation Well, the only thing I can think of is it's to destroy the airlines, you know, the another shutdown occurred earlier this week We still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. I think I got it wide effort. Well, I think you know

30:17 You know, Richard Branson is the only one in Europe really being vocal, which of course is really his job. And he's saying this is bullcrap, this is total, total nonsense. There's no reason you have to shut down, there is no danger. And he's getting no play, you know, when he jumps off a building with a playboy on his back, you know, it's like, oh, Richard Branson so kooky. But when he actually says something that's intelligent, you know, they give him no airtime whatsoever. And I think they're out to destroy him, destroy, if not just him, certainly the airline industry. This is a huge

30:54 huge dent for an already severely depressed industry and I think it's just more of it's dangerous in now it's costing them real money I think where's Boeing and where's Pratt & Whitney where are the voices from our American industries are going to suffer from this. Now the thing, the only time I heard anyone from Pratt & Whitney was right after the thing, some engineer came on and I don't know if it was official or unofficial and had a hairy scary story to tell about if the stuff got into a jet engine it would grind it to powder. uh... which i thought was interesting since this is a real well they actually talk about that in uh... in the full interview which is about eleven minutes instead linked in the show notes uh... it's yeah it uh... i think the exact quote was yes it can uh... provide more wear and tear on the aircraft if you actually go through a bit of the cloud but it's not like you're you're falling in no plane is ever fallen out of the sky and crashed because of this

31:53 And if it's and the essentially if you can see it then don't fly through it. But this thing is not at 37,000 feet. It's just not it's it goes up like 20 25,000 feet flight level 250 so you can fly over it. So it's it's politically motivated one way or the other and and there's no questions being asked. You know where are these guys from the volcanic ash advisory center? Get these guys out put them in the in the stockade for a second I want to talk to him. So, it's a, I believe, the only thing I can come up with is... We use computer models we think are very accurate and we're all for public safety. It's better to be safe than sorry. Shut up slave! Take the train. It's better to be safe than sorry. I remember we used to do a bunch of, when I was at InfoWorld, when the early days of

32:43 uh... using computer on an airplane because they are the laptops are starting to come out around nineteen eighty three years some like that and uh... and there was always always is meetings in your life the f a a band laptops you couldn't use on the plane because it would cause the plane to crash better to be safe and sorry and then the ever come up with evidence is that there's no evidence that does any of this and the always would come back well maybe but it's better to be safe than sorry So clearly it's politically motivated. Part of it I think is just bringing transportation together in the United States of Europe because that's how it's, that is exactly what it's resulted in. All the transport ministers now have a yet another panel they can sit on and drink tea.

33:33 And and it's meant to crush the airline industry and I and I fully admit I'm biased because I think flying is still a great mode of transportation and of all the links I have promoting train. I will only discuss one and this is local to us John as California's new high-speed rail authority, I love that the authority of high-speed rail has offered a very nice package to its new executive director, Roloff Van Ark. He is currently president of a subsidiary of the French company that constructs trains for the TGV high-speed line. He will get $375,000 a year plus a $75,000 signing bonus for becoming the

34:24 The new chief of the high-speed rail authority, which is is that now is that a commercial gig or is that a government gig? It sounds like a government gig. I bet you it's not. Mm-hmm. So what's interesting though? I'm like, okay. Well, that's a lot of money But what's interesting is that is half his paycheck of what he's making currently I'm like, why would this guy do this? So you duck options? Yeah well you what you want to look at is where he was before his his current gig Okay So what's his current gig? Well his current gig is as they say a subsidiary of the French company that constructs trains for the TGV high-speed line. That sounds innocuous, you're like, eh whatever, French crap right? But then if you look what he was doing before that gig, president and chief executive officer of Siemens Transportation Inc.

35:19 President, Executive Director, Turnkey Transportation Systems, Siemens AG. Before that, Joint Managing Director, Siemens Limited. Before that, General Manager, Executive Director, Siemens Limited. I wonder what company will get the contract. And do you think he's got any stock options in Siemens Inc.? I would hope. So, uh, that's, uh, that's what we call a good find. A good get. That was a good one, yeah. A good, a good placement. So the fix is in. There you go. Yeah, well that reminds me. So I've got a couple clips coming up on today's show and I think now might be a good time to play one of them. Just to give people a sense. We've already thrown into this mix of a kind of a government somewhere along the lines have decided to screw the airlines and make us think train at least until they build out this thing and nobody wants to use it, which is what's going to happen.

36:17 Because let's face it, nobody wants to take a day to get to Chicago when you can get there or a day and a half when you can fly there in three and a half hours. It's just not gonna happen. It's stupid. I won't take the train. I mean, what are you gonna do? Smell the old train? Wait, slip on the Depends and plug in your laptop. So there's a book that is an interview that took place on on afterwards the C C-Span show that comes on the weekends. Oh, wait a minute. I think do we need to play our clip here? There's gonna be a number one of them for sure. I hated that hotel rooms don't have C-Span. It's very difficult to live. For us. For us, yeah. You can watch it on the computer. I had my iPad. You can't watch it on the iPad. They only have Flash on the iPad. Well, that's just too bad, isn't it?

37:20 So, they had a guy, a former spy, it was 1990 to 2006 I think, for the CIA, seemingly pretty nice guy, very funny guy, named John Kirakou. And he was being interviewed by an ex-CIA guy. It was hilarious, these two CIA guys. But they were obviously trying to get some shots. They were trying to get a little bit of info out there without grabbing two to the head. Yeah, and so there but they were taking some shots at the government basically and and there's a couple of interesting clips including one that we were gonna play at the end of the show which is a little too long it's almost five minutes that will make your hair stand on end where they where they go after the FBI with a an anecdote that is just like what are we doing cool but anyway but that to start at the end

38:13 He has a story to tell about why he quit and when he quit. It's called The Big Lie. And I found that this is an example, since we just talked about how there's a concerted effort to screw over the airlines, and it always comes from high up. And we might as well play this clip and just listen to how that worked during the Bush administration. Well, we haven't got a lot of time, but I think let's take this narrative through your succeeding jobs and what you came to conclude that caused you to leave the agency. Right. I was blessed with a fantastic onward assignment once I finished in Pakistan. I went to work as the executive assistant to one of the associate deputy directors.

39:02 not really realizing at the time that he was named associate deputy director in order to coordinate the agency's participation in the planning for the Iraq war. So on my first day in that job I was read into a compartment that was shocking to me. Once I signed my secrecy agreement, the officer who read me in said, here's the deal. Next March, and this was in August of 2002, next March we're going to invade Iraq, we're going to overthrow Saddam Hussein, and we're going to open the world's largest air force base so that we can move all of our air assets out of Saudi Arabia into Iraq and deprive Osama bin Laden of the ability to say that we're polluting the land of the two holy mosques.

39:45 How many months before that this was like six months before? More than that, but it turns out that he even predates it a whole year. That's so awesome. Like the big airport. This is before the whole WMD thing. Oh yeah, this is still... Oh gee, you mean that was a setup? No, you can't be honest. Which is what he calls Saudi Arabia. And I was so stunned. All I could think to say was, but we haven't caught bin Laden yet. And anticipating that response, he said, it's a done deal. The decision's been made. We're going to invade Iraq. Well, it turned out the associate deputy director with whom I was working told me that he had been informed in March of 2002, a full year before we went into Iraq, that this decision had been made. The senior officer went on to tell me,

40:35 That we were going to go to the United Nations by the end of the year. We were going to pretend that we wanted an international coalition We knew that the Chinese the Russians and probably the French would oppose us and that we were prepared to go it alone So we were gonna wait until the spring and do it in March And that became my job for the next year. That is so fantastic that this is just on on television and Yeah, we're the only ones, and our listeners are the only ones hearing it. Yeah, it's like we're now in the, coming up on the ninth anniversary of 9-11. Yeah. And it's like, oh by the way, this was actually planned ten years ago. This is just, and it's outrageous. Working with the agency to come up with its response. And as you point out, that just meant that we were taking our eye off the ball in Afghanistan and the whole effort to find

41:30 Osama and we were opening up another can of worms. I thought at the time it was a terrible mistake and I'll say one other thing. Inside the agency as word began to get around, as we got closer to the March date and Vice President Cheney began talking publicly about some sort of connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, we began calling it the big lie at the agency because all of us knew there was no connection. Let me get back on my chair Wow That's just so outrageous, isn't it? So the CI so this really plays into the

42:13 almost generally accepted theory amongst crackpot circles in which I travel that this the whole 9-11 was an inside job. I mean, doesn't that make sense now? Well, no, it says 9-11 is the... actually he's got a 9-11 story too, which would make it sound that it's not an inside job. But the idea was, I think the thing that's kind of disturbing is that apparently two things that he brings out. One is that we're going to pull out everything we had in Saudi Arabia and move it to Iraq because of bin Laden wanted that. as though it was his... Yeah, exactly, because that's what he would... He's telling us what to do. Yeah, because you know, don't pollute the land. And the other thing that was disturbing is that they took off, like they said, they took their eye off the ball, whatever their ball was in Afghanistan, and of course now that's costing us billions of dollars because we have to go back and the Taliban's re, you know, rebooted as it were, and it's just a whole thing is a fiasco over there now, it's just a drug situation. I think they took their eye off the eight ball.

43:11 So, uh, but this guy, I've got this story, he has a 9-11 story that's good, and then of course there's the one that will play at the end of the show, which is the real, to me, is just like anyone who will listen to this whole show and they listen to this end clip, they're going to shake their heads and go, what is going on with that? So you want to do the 9-11 now? If you want to, it's a little, it's not on the same topic as the airline stuff, but yeah, sure, let's play it. Know immediately what to do. I go into this in the book too, and I think this is important. I got my first inkling that something was happening because, as I said again,

43:48 I was working on Greek terrorism and I wasn't at all focused on Al Qaeda. But on July the 6th, 2001, I was leading a group of Arab intelligence officers in the building. We do this all the time. It's good for relations. You do a meet and greet with the director or with a senior officer. You take them to the gift shop and get them some C.I.T. Yeah, oh yeah, I wanted to point that out the CIA gift shop. Oh, no years you do a couple of briefings It's good for relations. Yeah, and on this day. I had asked that we need a no agenda gift shop We desperately need one Or come just to shake their hands and thank them for coming and he was very generous in that way but that morning he came and he actually sat down which was a surprise to me and He told them

44:37 in no uncertain terms. He said, something terrible is going to happen. We don't know where, we don't know when, but it's going to be an attack on a scale that we've never seen before. And then he said, Earled Way, Adray, Enter Say. He said the mood in the camps is one of jubilation. We're seeing camp commanders talking to their students and crying on the phone and saying, I'll see you in paradise. We're picking up code words about a massive wedding or a massive soccer match. And these are all code words for an attack. So he leans forward and he says, I beg you, if you have any sources inside Al Qaeda, please help us disrupt this attack.

45:22 Well, it was a stunning briefing. Chilling. And at the end of the day I went back to his office to thank him for... Is this guy coughing up a lung? The other guy, the interviewer, is constantly coughing. It's like he's on his deathbed. Wow. Yeah, but this is, again, this is just fascinating information. And the reason why the guy is saying it to the CIA, because the CIA set up Al-Qaeda. They said it was the Mujahideen to help fight the Russians. Right. Stupid. Taking the time. And I said, Kofar, I have to ask you, was that for their benefit or were you serious? And he said, oh, I was very serious. He said, Dick Clark and I, Dick Clark was at the National... Right, from American Bandstand?

46:03 Security Council. Dick Clark and I have been shouting this from the rooftops and no one will pay attention to us but something terrible is going to happen. And then sure enough two months later, there was September 11th. And that comes out in Dick Clark's book, it comes out in the 9-11 Commission report as they were assessing the tidbits that were coming in, George Tenet with his hair on fire, remember that analogy? Knowing something was going to happen but not having the time, date, place kind of thing. Yeah, that's pretty astounding. That's pretty astounding right there. And then, you know, I wasn't actually going to mention this but not to belabor it, if you go to, and I'm a member, pilotsfor911truth.org

46:52 Just to remind you that the professional pilots from that organization, they acquired the flight recorder data from American Airlines Flight 77. through a Freedom of Information Act. Of course now it's like the NTSB and the FBI and the CIA, like, give it to those jabronis who care. No one cares. No one cares. So they decode it and we've already been through the, you know, the plane that got blown out of the sky according to Donald Rumsfeld, but he meant of course they flew it into the ground where there's no hole in the ground. Right. So they decoded this information

47:34 And there's a parameter, a data parameter, and you can download the CSV file with all the data on it, labeled FLT deck door, flight deck door, and the door does not open during the entire flight. Yet somehow some hijackers got into the cockpit and flew the plane into the ground. Yeah. WTC7 won't go away. He said nobody cares. When you listen to the last clip, which will be at the end of the show, it's about five minutes long, you, it might actually verify some of the more crackpot theories because you have to ask yourself, and I'm not gonna, I'll just set it up with a, it's a huge teaser, I don't like doing them.

48:20 but you have to ask yourself why what he's describing occurred. What's... WTF is the first thing you think of. Okay. So anyway, okay, so onward. Yes. as we depress the audience. Well I think the audience is going to like, you know, the whole point of this show is not to depress but to show you that if you just keep your ears and eyes open you can find out exactly what's going on. We help you along with that. We help you deconstruct some things. We show you how, and this is really how intelligence works. You know my family background is in some of these services

48:59 to say the least. And it's more important to control the messaging and what people believe than to actually go around sniping people in the middle of the night. This is the real work of intelligence, is to change the perception, get people to believe stuff, and then label the rest crackpots. Right, it works. So, we're at the donation point here. I think we might take a break. Unless you want me to play the one kind of a funny clip that I have? Yeah, let's do a funny clip. We'll go straight into donations. Actually, let me do a couple of clips here. I'm going to do the funny clip, then I want to do a clip that will lead us into one of the things I want to point out to people. Okay. Okay, here's the clip that I watched. You know, we've been playing ads for all these different drugs and all the problems they have.

49:43 So I decided that there's an ad for Regulin, which is a product that's not on the market anymore and they're suing people for, you know, they have a class action suit. And so this is an ambulance chaser. ad for Regulin and I've listened to the, here's what you want to listen for, listen to the symptoms that it causes and think to yourself, wow, would I love to be in the court when these people came up to testify. And what is Regulin exactly? I don't know. Affordant medical alert for heartburn, GERD, and gastrointestinal patients and their families. The prescription drug Regulin, also known as metal clopramide, has been linked to a rare and serious condition called tardive dyskinesia.

50:21 Symptoms include lip smacking, pursing, and puckering, grimacing, rapid eye movements or blinking, constant movement, foot tapping, and restless leg syndrome. If you or a loved one has used Reglan and experienced any of these symptoms, you may be entitled to substantial financial compensation. Call now for a free case evaluation. Now please, you're not gonna walk. Six, seven, nine, sorry, snyikes. You know, I know I'm missing I know someone who has these symptoms I'm not kidding. You know him, too He does it in all the meetings Yeah, I think most people in meetings do these things. Wait a minute. What is regular? I got it now It's like something for heartburners. Oh My god, he's been a lifelong acid reflux patient. I'll play the symptoms again. Oh my god You know I'm talking about right?

51:11 Do I? Yes, you do! Okay. Oh my god. Important medical alert for heartburn, GERD, and gastrointestinal patients and their families. The prescription drug Regulin, also known as metal clopramide, has been linked to a rare and serious condition called tardive dyskinesia. Symptoms include lip smacking, pursing, and puckering, grimacing, rapid eye movements or blinking, constant movement, foot tapping, and restless leg syndrome. If you or a loved one has used Regulin and experienced any of these symptoms, you may be entitled to substantial... I'm telling you, I don't recall the lip smacking. Yes, yes, yes! And I know he was looking for something for heartburn. Well that would be it. Get in on that class action. Oh my god, oh that's astounding. I was waiting for anal leakage. That would have been a trifecta. Grimacing is one of my favorites. Grimacing. You know the guy!

52:04 I want to play a clip before we thank our donors for this week and request more help. uh... this is the kind of thing that you get when you have normal television playing uh... anything in this a reason we don't like advertising i want to this is the this is taken directly off the air with no it was a garbage truck here yep it's a must be thursday like it would make him go to have to be so noisy anyway slightly floors this is to believe this is unedited

52:41 Taken right off the air during a dramatic moment in the movie V for Vendetta Just before the character is going to of course a great movie. It's a great movie by the way I want to mention to our no agenda book club people we want them to put movies available through amazon.com on DVDs in the list and this would be the first one V uh... anyway he's he's he's having his little meeting with the woman and he had this is like a a moment and this is the clip taken directly from the tv i did i edited nothing this is the way it plays on television on television i have a gift for you iffy but before i give it to you i'd like to ask you something would you dance with me on the eve of your revolution oh revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having i'd love to

53:39 Thanks to the new venture card from Capital One we get double miles on every purchase so we under speed trip twice as fast We get double miles every time we use our car. I'll take this Double miles add up quick and all of those so we brought the whole guy one adult This is like a seminal moment in the movie And also there's goats coming at you. I mean no wonder we're a confused species This is pathetic. This is why people want to take ads. This is this is what you get and I wanted now Here's another one. I'm not I don't want to belabor the point, but I will please So I watched I got to have all my clips done last night So when that happens, I'm bored in the morning and then they do in the morning so I decided to sit down and eat breakfast while watching the Today Show and

54:33 Right you know I'm just gonna go with is this The Today Show apparently has no real show. Even though Meredith makes five million dollars a year. But let me hear, this is an actual rundown. After they left a mediocre package that looked like it was prepared by somebody else on how great repo men are in this down economy. So they go into a batch of commercials. I'm going to read the rundown of the commercials just quickly one after another and how, until they actually get back to the show. Can you handle this? Do we have enough time in the program? Here we go.

55:10 We start off, these are all 30s, there's one 15 second and then two or three 60 second commercials. Starts off, Carnival Cruises, different person, food you never get to taste. Robin Hood movie, second commercial, Robin Hood movie. Number one in the world, Aqua, go into Aqua Fresh, ISO active whitening. Go into Kashi, grain, some sort of grain food you can eat. Then an advertisement for clean coal. Then an advertisement for the Chevy Traverse, seats eight then the number one advertiser for the number one comedy in america just right never heard of it and then they go to a quick hit of the today show just plugging themselves these are two more commercials one promoting the statue of liberty special they're gonna do next on the show we'll be right back after this then they cut back to the commercials right after first these messages of course so then we go to a house ad that talks about the today show Toyota summer concerts with Justin Bieber we go to a target ad that's uh... that's also sponsoring Toy Story 3 so it's a co-op

56:11 Open form.com I thought 60-second commercial actually for American Express then we go to days in best value then we go to a Lipitor where the where the guy had a heart attack at 50 and his son turned to him and says yes you should listen to your doctor. And that's a 60-second ad where you should listen to your doctors the real message letters to Juliet movie comes after that. to NBC house as one for the news and one for the today show onto the Toyota Tacoma lease ad then a an ad then we cut to the local big they switch the local and they have a local ad for some guy running for congress and blakeslee a quick hit on action news eight which is a local station in salinas with just two quick news item hits and then a couple of graphics and they cut back to a tony rap as local ad and then to the only hope for another guy running for office ad back to the to the eight today show crowd sitting there

57:06 pushing the next thing they're gonna have on the show but not actually going to the show promoting the Statue of Liberty then the Dalai Lama then they cut to a commercial for the winner of the Harry Potter contest of some sort not sure they get a free ticket or something then they go to their own little news bit which only has one item of news right back to the Prince of Persia commercial breathe right after that career dog food after that clean call at number two after that comfort in another one then locked tight glue capital one that same dad we just heard from the movie v and then shrek three and who hooked into mcdonald's again then back there finally back to the show

57:46 What kind of programming is this? Well, they're programming ads apparently. It's just ads. It's ads and ads. And anybody who watches the show, just try to flip around. You flip the channel to channel. It's just more ads. This is pathetic. This is what we're trying to avoid. And anybody who thinks that we should be doing advertising, Go ahead. They're not clinically insane Yeah, it's pretty bad that so that was like a 10-minute block if I counted no longer than that it was longer than 15 minute well actually with it with the one no, I just God knows how long it was oh It's like the whole show is just ads. There's no show oh

58:31 And do you think, well you know what, it works. I'm sure someone's gonna go see Robin Hood and we're gonna go, you know, buy some Lipitor and we're gonna, you know. Gladiator in the woods. So, um, so we only have a few donors here this week, but let me mention them. First of all, we got to, uh, we forgot to mention Mark Koolen. Yes. Uh, Colin, Colin and from, you can pronounce the name of the job. And he wanted to plug for his, uh, company seed care seed productions, which is not a Monsanto affiliate. He is quick to point out. Um,

59:11 he was a deuce donor right? Yeah he was a deuce donor as was Sir Kent Zicer. Oh yes, well we did pretty good I mean I have to say all in all our administration is doing okay. but for this week we really did poorly last considering didn't actually show me really got nothing we got a really uh... pits from greensboro north carolina senate's ninety seven bucks daniel jackson sent us uh... fifty five ten uh... and he's got a happy birthday that we're gonna do in a second uh... he's from melbourne australia good support there and then uh... marwin marwin from port moody british columbia ricky pierce in sydney new south wales robert alter

59:55 and john petruchini and lori cops got corpy who are actually part of the nightly of these are all nightly always a separate marwin and uh... marwin says that is a donation to be had those are fifty dollars is a donation behalf of our friend kevin the ang was a long time a loyal listener please mention that this is birthdays So his birthday is May 20th, so that was yesterday Kevin Liang and then we have Daniel Jackson

1:00:32 A true happy birthday, her first trying to make newborn Chloe, your youngest minuteman slash girl, born May 16th right after the last show. Happy birthday, Chloe! And of course, John and I didn't do it. I mean, create Chloe, that is. So thanks to everybody who donated, and we do have a knight. Yes, indeed. And I think this is one that we missed. So it'll be a black knight. Well, actually, this is quite a special knight. He's not only a knight noir, but he has been donating proceeds from the Pocket No Agenda app to the show. Adam Burkpile, please step up. Hold on a second. Do you have... Oh, I got mine here. You got yours? Yep, there it is. Okay, unsheathed.

1:01:29 Adam Burkpile, as creator of the PocketNoAgenda app, the donations you have contributed to support No Agenda have equaled your knighthood status. So we hereby knight the Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable and apps. Please join for all the hookers and blow. It's cool. And you know, he's gonna keep going. He's not gonna stop. Oh yeah.

1:02:05 And actually that he should do better and better as time goes by. Well, it's also just an outstanding app. I mean, it's the one I use, I have to say. It's just a really good app and I really dig it. So yeah, we didn't do all that great, I agree, in donations. Certainly not as good as some other programming from our national treasure. Did you hear about Frontline? Yeah, they got another 7 8 million bucks or something like that out of the blue for no good reason Well, so they could do them to they could do more, you know, my mini shows. Yeah That's what I think is going on here. So frontline by the way has often outstanding Productions, but I think now they're turning it into ministry of truth. Probably what's happening is I

1:02:54 What's her name here? Patricia Harrison, who is the, who by the way is a former PR executive. That's her whole, her claim to fame. She and her husband had a huge PR agency and now she's, you should look at her Wikipedia page and put it in the show notes. And so she decided to hand over almost $7 million so they could produce more programs. Here's what they will be doing. New episodes interspersed throughout the year will include three short, three stories an hour, not the usual hour-long frontline investigations. In other words, hey guys, you know, you've got a great brand. She even says it here, they've got a great brand.

1:03:32 But you know you're getting a little too close to the truth, so could you just do like some fluff pieces do like three shorter fluff pieces? Yeah, this is based on the frontline world show that there was going on for a while Which I think was the test for this would people put up with it, and they tend to be Done by very independent producers on extremely low budget and not really that deep In March, the Public Broadcasting Corporation, which administers federal funds for public broadcasting, federal funds, can I just repeat that? Federal funds, your tax money, so not donations, this isn't even Monsanto, said it would make a separate $7.5 million available to set up seven regional reporting projects that would be collaborative efforts between public radio and TV stations.

1:04:21 So the ministry of truth is expanding, is the way I read this. Well there's also, if you go to the blog, and I think I sent you a link to these, or maybe some of the stories coming in about Kagan now. Oh yeah, the Obama administration actually wanting to pretty much control all free speech, the internet, pamphlets, posters. They want to literally censor all these things. There's a couple of elaborate stories on it. It came before the Supreme Court. She was grilled about it, about what the white... and essentially everything short of book burning was in the mix. And even the book censorship thing was soft-peddled.

1:05:02 there'd be the obama administration apparently if you listen to the right wing talk guys say they hint about this they think they think the following they think obama's extremely sensitive to criticism doesn't like it one iota and uh... would just as soon put the key bosh on all this crap that you know that he has to put up with you know somebody criticizing him and his wife and uh... so that's I think that this is all part of this, you know, kind of, I mean, we can see it. We see it with these stories that we're doing on the show every twice a week. Every story here is suppressed. It's pretty outrageous. I'm reading this right now. There's a link in the show notes. Explosive report shows Kagan supports censorship of TV, radio posters and pamphlets. And the internet. Yeah, it doesn't quite say no agenda show, but

1:05:53 One of these days someone's just gonna come out and say, we've got to get these guys in the morning. We've got to get rid of them. Just a quick, some viewer mail from Venezuela. Let me plug the word people can help us out. No wonder we don't get any money. We keep forgetting to tell people how to support us. That would help. Yeah. Noagendashow.com. Go to noagendashow.com as many times as you can. Dvorak.org slash NA, which is the No Agenda donation page. noagendashow.com. Channeldvorak.org slash NA is an alternative page, but Dvorak.org slash NA is the main page. And if you can't get to any of these things, go to the noagendaproxy.com and you can go anywhere through that guy.

1:06:39 So we got some listener feedback. Normally I'd say it's a producer note, a note from the producer, but this is actual listener feedback from Otto from Venezuela. And this note is not entirely safe for work, but I do want to read it to you because it is basically directed at you. Although he starts off with, hi Adam and John. On show 199, you call the president democratically elected of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela an idiot. And not only that, you called the majority of the population of our country idiots? What the fuck? Don't insult if you don't have a clue about our country and what our president is doing. Free education, free healthcare, and many many other things he is doing for us. You're insulting the country that the US empire fucked up the ass 50 years long. Have any of you two been in Venezuela? And better, you talk about conspiracy theories and stuff.

1:07:32 but you have not realized that our president Hugo Chavez Frias is providing, is proving all the things you talk about and call him an idiot for. I love your show, but don't insult us and inform yourselves better about Venezuela. Please don't misinform because I know your job is to inform. I don't have a jingle of the show, but the president's name on Sundays is called Alo Presidente. Yeah, he has a show every week. Love the show, let me know if you need any information about Venezuela, I'd be glad to help. Can't donate yet, but once I get a job, I will and below some links about Venezuela. So first of all, he's clearly a Spanish... Well, you know, the thing is there is, I mean, Chavez was targeted by the economic hitmen. They tried to kill him. And it was after that that he went kind of nuts.

1:08:18 and i'll president and a you can't you can't blame him in the morning in fact yeah i mean i i you can blame him for being the way is but he's not a good guy no he's not a good guy so here's another piece of that mail this one from a producer and he read this is in the in the uh... spreadsheet in the morning to you just found something interesting uh... Ah, this is ah, no, Adams earthquake is real question mark. I was watching violent earth on the National Geographic Channel Explorer show. Apparently at 1930 in the show a Soviet rocket engine fired off through a magnetic field and created a quake by accident while they were studying alternative energy systems. This is a very real Soviet earthquake machine. The US military bought the machine after the Cold War ended. Where is it today? Unknown.

1:07:32 but you have not realized that our president Hugo Chavez Frias is providing, is proving all the things you talk about and call him an idiot for. I love your show, but don't insult us and inform yourselves better about Venezuela. Please don't misinform because I know your job is to inform. I don't have a jingle of the show, but the president's name on Sundays is called Alo Presidente. Yeah, he has a show every week. Love the show, let me know if you need any information about Venezuela, I'd be glad to help. Can't donate yet, but once I get a job, I will and below some links about Venezuela. So first of all, he's clearly a Spanish... Well, you know, the thing is there is, I mean, Chavez was targeted by the economic hitmen. They tried to kill him. And it was after that that he went kind of nuts.

1:08:18 and i'll president and a you can't you can't blame him in the morning in fact yeah i mean i i you can blame him for being the way is but he's not a good guy no he's not a good guy so here's another piece of that mail this one from a producer and he read this is in the in the uh... spreadsheet in the morning to you just found something interesting uh... Ah, this is ah, no, Adams earthquake is real question mark. I was watching violent earth on the National Geographic Channel Explorer show. Apparently at 1930 in the show a Soviet rocket engine fired off through a magnetic field and created a quake by accident while they were studying alternative energy systems. This is a very real Soviet earthquake machine. The US military bought the machine after the Cold War ended. Where is it today? Unknown.

1:09:10 I didn't tell you anything. Says the National Geographic narrator, you're not going to get a more impartial recognition that this thing is real than the National Geo... well, maybe, maybe. Well, look. Listen hear me now believe me later Of course these things are real play that you play the jingle the right. This is the bogus playing of the jingle It's not a vote. It's not a misfire So the United States of Europe is in in deep peril and And it's now gotten to the point where first the plan was, of course, unless you're living under a rock, they even mentioned this maybe even on the NBC Today show, that you might have heard there's some financial issues going on in Europe after this. Remember how good it was to install this Lisbon Treaty and make it all one happy place on earth?

1:10:03 So first the call was, hey, you know, with all these different countries, you know, because now we've got to bail everybody out. We've got a trillion dollars lined up. We need to be able to look at your books. Like they hadn't done any diligence before. They hadn't? No, of course not. We need to look at your books to make sure you're playing by the rules. Well, no one liked that, of course, because everyone's cooking the books. And so now they're saying, well you know what, we need to have more regulations and Brussels needs more control. Which is exactly, I should play the jingle here, which is exactly what was predicted, it's exactly what this is about. And now in Gitmo Nation East, in the United Kingdom, where we have a new government, we also have a new Chief Secretary to the Treasury, David Laws.

1:10:47 So, you know, we got new guys coming in and you know, it's just typical, you know They'll leave their predecessor in this case Liam Byrne will leave like some information behind you know for the for the new guy coming in and this clip is kind of funny because it was on a Talk show I guess I don't know which one in in the UK and and uh... the new guy the new secretary of the treasury david laws received a note from his predecessor from your predecessor at leavers liam burns saying we've run out of cash yeah i had to uh... to chuckle and i received i thought when i got this night in the civil servants said to you your predecessor has left you some advice i thought how kind of him this must be about how to deal with other ministers about the complex way of making decisions in the treasury it's just this very short note which said chief secretary i'm sorry to have to tell you the money's run out

1:11:40 and it was honest. I mean, I think most of us knew that from the... Is that true then? Are you saying the money has completely run out? Well, we clearly have a massive deficit, so it's more than run out. What would you write back to him? Well, I would thank him for that very honest... You talked about this on the last show, we didn't have the... No, we didn't talk about it, I told you about it at lunch. See, this is why we should not talk about anything. I know. I even said I shouldn't tell. By the way, that proves, by the way, ladies and gentlemen listening in, this is why you don't do pre-interviews. Exactly. Because I swore, I would swear that if somebody had quizzed me, I'd say, oh yeah, you talked about it on the last show. Would you mind telling us briefly, John, about your... You told me about something, and I just want you to relate the story, so that we can do a true media assassination on CNBC.

1:12:29 Which you were bumped, you were thrown off. You were not allowed to do it. I get bumped all the time on CNBC. Well, tell our producers why. Well, the way it works is... Because of course you were going to promote the show, I'm sure. Actually, I haven't done that yet, but one of these days in the morning gets gets on CNBC. I do say since I write for Market Watch, I have been I've done a lot of CNBC and of course they're supposed to be putting us on Fox Business, but if you have the choice, you don't want to work Fox Business. No one's watching. No one's watching, but people do. The real important people do watch CNBC. Every stockbroker in the world's got it on constantly.

1:13:07 But the thing is, these little segments they do and they have the two people in the boxes are essentially rigged. They make a decision on what the issue's gonna be and then they start calling people up and asking them what they're gonna say and you can kind of tell by what they, you can tell what they want you to say. They say, well do you think it's just a terrible thing that they're doing this? And they say, no I don't think it's that terrible. Okay, well we'll use you next time. So what did they want you to do? Well they wanted me to... they're gonna talk about apples only taking cash and i explained to them what white way that probably was cuz i'm not i'm not i was not taking cash you mean i mean they're not the only right to not taking cash only take credit cards for the ipad because they're trying to monitor who's buying them and they won't let anyone by more than two of them because urs go right immediately to the black market being sold in south america and europe and asia and uh... so the although i'm sure the bootlegs are coming out a j anyway

1:14:05 So anyway, so I was grilled up and so apparently what I was, my job was to be, I think it's an invasion of privacy. Apple is a terrible company for doing this. Okay, so the producer calls you up and he asks you what? Because this is the pre-interview. He says, we'd like to talk about the Apple thing. What do you think? And he just kind of hints around what I think and I give him a lecture about what I think, which is that I think there's the only real issue is that it's legal tender to have a the dollar bill to buy something what we would it will cause apple bypassing the treasury you know that mean the whole system which was i think is illegal what they're doing is that was going to be my company says well he he can ask me do i think is an invasion of privacy is a basic privacy so he wanted me to say yeah it's an invasion of privacy

1:14:51 But I couldn't say that because I didn't think that's what they were up to. I thought they were up to just a database just to keep tabs on the sales. I didn't honestly believe it. And since I didn't honestly believe it, and when I go on these things, I generally, I mean I can sometimes, anybody can do this if you have, you're kind of on the fence, you can take either side of an argument which is ideal for these shows because they can give you, you know, nobody wants to say that, I'll say it. Because sometimes you can say it because you don't really have a strong opinion, but when you don't really believe in something like why bother yeah You don't need to be I said not bad, and but it's the way he blows me off It's like it's just like you know I what do you think it's an invasion of privacy I think it's him no. I don't think it's an invasion of privacy, and then it goes like this You know I think we're gonna go with an analyst

1:15:41 I love it. So, because otherwise, Erin Burnett, I mean, she would have been so confused. The irony was Erin wasn't on that. They had some substitute British. Oh, nothing lost then. Who I've never seen. Yeah, with Erin not there. Why do this show? No loss. Who cares? All right. That's good. I don't know who this other woman was. If it was one of the other women I've met over at the studio, it would be kind of fun. But this woman, I've never seen this one before. She must be from CNBC World or something. It's a thick accent. More proof that the Codex Alimentarius is real and spreading from Gitmo Nation Lowlands, a TV report, and I've put a link to it in the show notes, it won't do you much good if you don't speak Dutch unless you're in Holland or South Africa, you're screwed. But I thought the title of the report was pretty good. This is like a half-hour report. Salt is a sniper.

1:16:37 It's a sniper, it's killing you I tell ya. This is the most amazing phenomenon I've ever seen, this SALT thing. Yeah and there's a couple more links that you can... We have not isolated the PR agency behind it. Well, you don't need to. This is, well, you know, and you're right because global warming of course is the same type of setup, set up over years and years. By the way, the next... And global warming is Hilton and Nolten by the way. Yeah, and the next global warming conference will be in Cancun, Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, so that's why Obama had Calderon over, setting him up, getting him ready.

1:17:17 So yeah, it's clearly a setup and I'm sure that the Codex Alimentarius group will want to hire a global agency soon enough. I would be stunned if they don't have one. Yeah, I haven't been able to find it yet but this thing has been building for a long time through the World Health Organization, the United Nations. Yeah, but this recent SALT thing has got somebody behind it. Well, I you know, I don't know. I mean all I'm identifying They always do you can't get this much publicity without a public relations agency The newspaper guys aren't gonna go out and dig this stuff up. The government is incompetent at promoting stuff It has to be a big public relations agency. We have to figure out who they are Okay so that is the task the homework for our producers to find out what the PR agency is behind the assault on salt by the way Boar's head

1:18:08 We got a picture from one of our producers Kevin he's got a Sign in the cafeteria. It says Boar's Head our assault on salt continues I mean you need salt and yeah, there is a counter thing That's the salt Institute which of course everyone is now you know they're becoming the tabacco to big tobacco of the salt war. Big tobacco. Let's have a public hearing. Oh, there will be. There will be public hearings about salt. I understand you sold 25 tons of salt last year. You bastards, you're trying to kill us all.

1:18:47 I don't know what it is. You know and everyone and the New York Times is all over there They're trying to speculate they're saying oh who benefits from from less salt the Tabasco industry Jeff Wright Could be so yeah, but I think John I I really somehow this this morning as I was you know going through the early morning in the morning routine and I thought you know maybe it'll crop up. Maybe a Monsanto type company or someone is gonna have something all of a sudden and we're gonna go oh brother I can't believe it. It could happen because they gotta come up with something. Well I know that they have this new salt that with the different kinds of flakes that they're in that somebody's working on so that could be it. You know you're right that we will just keep an eye on it. I'm almost becoming jaded you know.

1:19:35 About the so it's so funny. It's so funny. Yeah, it's so funny to watch you just sit there go like of course That makes total sense. Yeah Why not so is what you're turning our army of listeners into the same sort of? Although a lot of people still aren't quite thinking for themselves because we get notes every once in a while there make you shake your head but You know, there's a good story that came in from Australia. They're pushing the porno thing now. Did you hear about that? Yeah, I did and I actually had it in my list. Apparently now on the sheet, I haven't seen one. Someone should send me a scan. I want to see a scan of this. The incoming passenger card which you fill out. The incoming passenger thing where you check the boxes. Are you bringing in more than $10,000? Are you a terrorist? It says, are you bringing in pornography?

1:20:22 Yeah, which is like, oh crap, I've got my laptop with me. And what's pornography is still the issue. Is it just a naked person, picture of a naked person, pornography? Well, we know that if you have a picture of a naked person where you actually see them atomically correct, as we played on the last show, where you see a female labia, that would be deemed pornography according to their rules. So yeah, so you know what this is John, this is the whole doublespeak coming up. This is a very good point actually. What is pornography? It is not being determined on this card. Yeah, no, it's just like, it's just vague. This is the way you want to do, by the way, you want to make it so everybody's breaking the law all the time. This is the Soviet approach.

1:21:15 to uh... populated to controlling the public which is that no matter what you do you somehow breaking the law so you're always subject to arrest you know under all circumstances because there's no way i think they give a story when i went to russia for the uh... first and only time i hope to go back but this is before the fall of communism and they had all these rules and one of them was you could not have any uh... russian money outside outside of the outside of the outside the country had to go go I brought a couple rubles of course we all did and of course which means me I was a criminal but the joke of it is that you couldn't have any any money outside the country and when you went to the airport there was like a line where you're like in the country and where you were out of the country and the only way you could get a cart

1:22:08 to put your baggage on, the carts were outside the country but required inside the country money. Whoops. So to get a cart you had to break the law. Hedy Johnson walking right into Russia for the first time you broke the law. Hedy Johnson, chief executive of child protection group Bravehearts, agreed with Patton, I'm not quite sure who this is, The question was too broad. She said it should apply only to illegal pornography. Quote, if it said child porn, I'd be 100% behind it. If you're carrying child pornography, then you deserve everything you get, she said. The issue has, and this is something we got to research, the issue has echoes of the 1956 detention of famed British conductor and composer Sir Eugene Goossens.

1:22:58 who had his bag searched upon his return from Europe. He was carrying material that was considered, at the time, pornographic and his reputation was subsequently ruined, forcing him to flee the country. Apparently the term pornography is not referred to at all in the Federal Classification Act which customs relies on to classify the material. There you go. Yeah, this is this is the double I got we got a jingle Naked is porn

1:23:36 It's a little lengthy. Let me read you a story from Everett, Washington, which is kind of like classic example of double speak and making doing what this is a woman. Apparently there's a number of these in Washington state because it's a very boring area. to stay awake, they drink so much coffee. So everyone's just downing coffee constantly so they don't just fall asleep while standing. So there's, you know, Starbucks and Seattle's Best and everybody's up there making tons of coffee. And there's a bunch of these, to keep your eyes open, there's a couple of these so-called bikini baristas, which are women who wear bikinis and then they make an espresso. So let me just read you this. A bikini barista who had faced a prostitution charge

1:24:20 Pleaded guilty, wait until you get to that part. Pleaded guilty Monday in Everett Municipal Court to working without an adult entertainment license for being in a bikini at the stand and was sentenced to 20 days in jail. She's allowed to serve her time under home electronic monitoring. She also ordered the woman to be fully clothed, no bikini or lingerie when she works at an espresso stand. The 21-year-old had been charged with prostitution after detectives photographed her licking whipped cream off of another barista. That has nothing to do with prostitution. Hello?

1:24:57 That's a big double speak right there. Four other baristas charged after a lewd behavior investigation last year at the Grab and Go Espresso stand will have charges dropped if they stay out of trouble for two years. So basically you got a girl in a bikini and another girl in a bikini and one of them sprays some whip cream on the other girl, licks it off, now she's a prostitute. Can you believe this? It's very hard. How does licking whipped cream off of somebody make you a prostitute? Did she get you, was there an exchange of money? I mean, this is bogus. This is unbelievable. This is what's going on here and Australia and probably most of the world with this craziness. Actually, I saw something interesting. Where is it? In California, I think. I don't know if we talked about this.

1:25:53 Governor... Who's our governor here? No, no, hold on a second. This is governor dot... Hughes for governor dot com. Hughes. Who's this guy? Douglas R. Hughes. I guess he has no chance. Is this the guy running in California? Yeah, exactly. Oh, this is the guy. This is Mint. So as your governor, my number one promise, by the way, we have an $18 billion deficit in California. And by the way, Schwarzenegger's our governor, by the way. I know he's running for governor. That's why I stopped myself. So we have an $18 billion deficit with the Greece of the United States. My number one promise to you as governor is to remove all pedophiles from the state of California. Sounds good, right? So what's he gonna do? By the way, he says, we can do this.

1:26:39 We as parents care about our children. They are a gift from God. It's our responsibility to keep them from harm. Blah blah blah. Okay, absolutely. Currently, our government places pedophiles in prison. After short sentences, they are released back into our neighborhoods to rape our children. How mentally ill can one government be? Why should Californians tolerate this practice? So he has a plan. As governor, I will introduce legislation to impose mandatory expulsion of convicted pedophiles from the state of California. By the way, a pedophile is not necessarily someone who has sex with children. That would be a pedosexual to be really correct. So a pedophile I think can be broad. The pedophiles in the state of California will have three choices. One, leave our state of California permanently. Two, remain in prison for life. Or three, live on Santa Rosa Island, a self-supporting community for pedophiles and sexual offenders.

1:27:35 This is amazing! And this guy, by the way, is the creepiest looking man in the world. He's probably already got a house there. He's like, I'm gonna have a cool pad. And this is next to, between Santa Cruz and San Miguel is where Santa Rosa lies. And he wants to build a community. This is crazy. So they can exchange tips? I don't know. It's like, ah. Now this is just another loser running for governor in the state of California. I would like you to just talk about, you posted this at Dvorak.org slash blog. As you know there were a lot of states that boycotted Arizona. Oh yeah. And this by the way, this Arizona thing is going to turn right into the national ID card

1:28:23 We're going to we're all going to be getting my eyes with this and it almost it feels like it let no good crisis go to waste like okay those guys in Arizona they screwed up let's take this and turn it into a bill that we can like track people because you know we don't want to like just because the way you look we know we want to be identify you through RFID or something like that you watch you watch I know what that's gonna happen you watch there so any excuse so Los Angeles Came out publicly and threatened and said we're boycotting Arizona and and what was the exact quote it was kind of funny It was not to you have the PDF file in front of you. Yeah, I do. I'm opening it up here Not okay the the quote from Los Angeles By the way, that's mayor Villa how do you pronounce it Villa? Go sir? I think is how you pronounce it while we recognize that as neighbors we share a

1:29:21 resources and ties with the state of Arizona that may be difficult to sever. Our goal is not to hurt the local economy, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars or the withholding of our dollars to send a message. So that's what LA said to Arizona. Yes, so much for states' rights. Yeah. Then the... Which is guaranteed in the Constitution, by the way, and all these actions that these cities are taking are completely un-American. So Gary Pierce, Commissioner of the Arizona Corporate Commission, sends a little note back. I have a link to the Dvorak blog so you can read it there. And he says, oh, yo, dude, Mayor, message received, please receive mine. As a statewide elected member of the Arizona Corporate Commission overseeing Arizona's electric and water utilities,

1:30:15 I too am keenly aware of the resources and ties we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately 25% of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona. If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power arrangements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona's utilities will be happy to take those electrons off your hands. I'm saying rolling blackouts are on the way. Good. Oh my god, this is crazy. I thought it was genius. Well, it is genius. It's like a big middle finger, like screw you, but just wow. So, on another topic.

1:31:11 I ran into, there's this Broadway, I keep seeing this commercial and then I had to finally record this because it's a sense, I've never seen this done before. You know, Broadway show tunes have become parodies of themselves. I mean, The Simpsons do them, Family Guy does them to a lesser extent. But they have a certain sound to them. It's a Broadway show tune. And they're not very effective. they're happy that's not what they sound like but they're not very effective as advertising vehicles and there's this one night they keep playing I keep why they playing this Broadway show tune and I've seen this at about five or six times and

1:31:51 And when you hear it, you go, oh my god, it sounds like a Broadway show tune. But you can never remember what the ad is for. And then when you finally realize it's a lame AT&T ad, you kind of say, well, they're just wasting their money. But I want to play it. Because people have heard this ad, I'm sure, if they watch television at all. And they will not accept now that I've mentioned AT&T, will never identify, because it's a meaningless, crazy ad. Obviously somebody who really likes Broadway show tunes, I won't say why, got into the advertising agency and talked them into this idiotic ad. We'll begin with a spin, traveling in the world of my creation. What we'll see, we'll define.

1:32:37 Explanation Remember when you were five and anything was possible? Happy fifth birthday again. Come with me and you'll be in a world of your imagination. Remember when you were the worst? Isn't that, uh, is that from Willy Wonka? I don't know why, I guess maybe it was a Broadway show tune, whatever the case. But you can't use a Broadway show tune to sell anything. Well, they're trying to, you know, the whole appeal is, remember when you were five? Well, shut up, slave! That's what they should have done. That would have been funny. Remember when you were five? You're five again, slave. Shut up. Slip on the bracelet. It's from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Yeah. I told you, see, I recognize my show tunes. It worked. No, now I'm scared. It worked.

1:33:30 I'm kind of surprised anybody would realize that. But all I know is, why are they playing a Broadway show tune? Here's another little exercise that people can deal with. I think this could be, you know those pictures you have when you have, what's wrong with this picture and they show picture A and picture B? Oh, you mean find the differences is what it is. But you can just do with TV shows, having knowledge, you can find the difference between facts and crazy bull crap on bull crap. Now this is a clip from Criminal Minds that has got so many unbelievable assertions about technology and everything in between that it's like a joke. This is worse than the, you know, making a pixel into a license plate number. Play it. Well it wasn't the cameras, he remembered to take those with him. It wasn't the body, he took that with him too. Hey, did Garcia find anything unusual with Allison's wireless?

1:34:30 No, records show that it was a basic DSL installation. Hey, Prentiss, help me move this table. Yeah. What do you got? You see this line right here? Yeah. This is what brings the internet from the street into the house. Okay, so? This isn't DSL. It's not? It's a fiber optic cable. Whoa! Completely different type of connection. We just found this mistake.

1:35:08 There's already an internet connection in the house. Why does he bring his own with him? It's the upload speed fiber-optic allows him to stream large amounts of video and maintain a chat room That's dozens of computers connected to him at once. He'd need a lot of bandwidth for something like that We check all the ISPs while you turn off this. I get mail, phone calls, people knock on my door all the time to see if I want to upgrade my internet. Yeah, I get them too. And they'll offer to come inside and demonstrate how much faster their connection is. Dude, did you record the ads after this? The AT&T ad must have run right after this crap. I'll tell you, this is got so much garbage in it. One, they got a fiber optic cable stuck into a DSL wireless router somehow, I don't know. Magic with a dongle. And then they have apparently, uh, it goes on, they said they also bust them because we play the rest of it and well, I'll tell you, deconstruct it. Bruce that gets him in the door. It makes sense. During his demonstration, he would have access to his victims computers. On his way out, he asked for a glass of water, a distraction, something to buy enough time to plant that first camera.

1:36:08 You to find out what company owns this cable a detective Fordham's already hunting that down and there's an ID number on it So it shouldn't take long. There's an ID number on the cable shouldn't take long shouldn't take long Okay, I don't know how many cables have ID numbers on none that I've ever seen but there's a number of flaws number of flaws This thing is filled when is when does somebody knock on your door? Would you like to upgrade your DSL and I can demo it for you? They run a special wire to everybody's house so they can demo how much faster they're and the one guy says oh they come over they come over in the shh they demo how much faster it is and the woman says yeah that's happened to me too. This is bull crap. It's just bull crap on bull crap and then to make it worse at the end of the show

1:36:55 The guy who's the lead criminal minds guy does an Eric Schmidt quote, which I just dropped my jaw. It's like, what are you doing? Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google? Yeah. Can I play it? Yeah. The internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand. The largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had. Eric Schmidt. He's such a visionary revolutionary Don't be evil Eric Schmidt NSA shill. Yeah, I guess That's that's that's phenomenal. You know, they're Still working on the Federal Reserve Empowerment Act. Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna go anywhere. Yeah, I think they've already gutted it haven't yeah, I think they've pretty much shut it down, but I was watching some of the so the whole that actually I think I have here

1:37:53 One of the reasons for this going awry is because they're trying to put regulations for derivatives. And derivatives, and I happen to know a lot about derivatives because I built a swap, vanilla swap trading system for Bankers Trust in the 90s. So I learned it's really not that hard. The most common form of derivative, and it's basically, it's a hedge. It's to lower your risk An easy way so some to understand is like oil as an example So you want to you know? You can get some oil now or borrow it from somebody and you just basically a contract saying hey I'll take that oil from you within the next two years for X amount You can do it with money if currency fluctuates so you can say hey, you know I need some euros and you need some dollars Let's swap them and we'll do it at this strike price. So it's it's a reasonably

1:38:47 In business, it's used all the time for all kinds of things, but it has a very bad connotation. So you can't just go in and outlaw derivatives. That would truly stop the world. You just you can't do that. And what was, so they're trying to put all these derivatives regulations And I tried to find it on the C-SPAN video library because I thought it would be a funny quote, but Senator Judd Gregg said in his speech, he said, the way the derivatives language of this bill has evolved, this is the bill put in by Chris Dodd, jabroni.

1:39:24 The way the derivatives language of this bill has evolved is that it just gets worse and worse in an almost incomprehensible and irrational way that is rather surreal. It's almost as if we were at the Mad Hatter's tea party the way this derivatives language is evolving. And he has a whole bunch of Mad Hatter, Alice in Wonderland references like, I guess the Queen of Hearts would be proud of it. You know, it just keeps on going on and on and on. But the clip that I found was another uh... something that is expr- this is how cra- this is what dickheads are doing in Washington expressly put in the bill a form of derivatives that had to be outlawed because it would KINDUSTRATE football maybe some Americans can understand that recently one firm actually proposed a Cantor Fitzgerald subsidiary proposed to do uh... futures on movies

1:40:20 in L.A. they would produce a movie and then the people on Wall Street would bet on what the opening weekend was going to return and they would bet on how much money it might make. This became of such concern to uh... producers uh... in l a because they thought my god if they if they start out short nice right away then that's going to press you know our investment potential for the movie et cetera et cetera so um... they've actually in the senate bill they're actually banning this sort of uh... derivatives of the band two kinds of derivatives one has been historically banned for some reason lost to the mist of time, onions, you can't do them on onions and the second would be movies from Hollywood. But otherwise, you can bet on anything. You could bet on the weather tomorrow.

1:41:04 I thought that was pretty interesting. You know, that is interesting. I used to know the rationale for the onions. I was going to ask you about it. I'm sure you would have known. Yeah, no, I knew about the onions and I can almost remember it because I heard somebody, probably on C-SPAN or one of the financial channels, explaining it in great detail. And it actually made some logical sense at the time. I'll have to say though, what I find offensive about this is the usage of the word bet. Like it's one big casino. You can bet on this, you can bet on that. Yeah, that's the meme they want you to stick with. It's betting, it's a casino, it's betting, it's just betting with your money. It's not. You need derivatives in global business. You need it. It's very, very important. It just has been the financial derivatives of these

1:41:53 CDOs and synthetic CDOs that of course is you know, they just need to pull all these guys down Just put them out of business get rid of them Can we jump to the Miss USA thing for a run out of time? If you let me do one more thing about the one more thing about the squid cuz Bloomberg I think I heard you and Horowitz talking about this, you know chuckling about Goldman Sachs is perfect quarter and Yeah, where they they made money every single day right daily. Yes trading revenue topped 100 million dollars 35 times last quarter out of 63 trading days So actually it's Goldman Sachs JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America this week said each Each said it's trading desk made money every day of the first quarter every single day, right? So this guy Jonathan Weil from Bloomberg

1:42:46 He posted the calculation when I wouldn't have given you the story without the actual formula He calculated the chances of that happening. Do you know what the chances are of that? I'd be ridiculous 1 in 5.7 billion And and four banks did it yeah, yeah, that's because the chances are miscalculated when it's rigged Oh, I love it. It's fantastic. So on Miss USA, I've got a few clips, mainly near the end, but I got the first thing I listened to Miss Michigan give her answer. The way this starts off, it says, OK, now we're coming to the hardest part of the competition, they say. You have to speak. Exactly. That's the first thing I say to her. I say, oh, yes, now she has to actually talk.

1:43:34 So, uh, the girls did fair, but play, you know, the Michigan one, it's done, I clipped it down as best as I could, but essentially they have to pick from a jar and some idiot that's a judge, including the most gay guy they've ever had on the show, this skater who is wearing feathers. And, and... Why are we discussing this? Hold on, I must give you the... And now, back to real news. Why are we talking about this? I like to watch it because this is like, you know, show business at its worst. In fact, let's skip to the... I'll play the Michigan thing, but the old Miss USA was actually a pretty girl, had a walk-off, you know, because she had to come back to the car. Are we playing Michigan first or walk-off? No, no, we're gonna play the sickening walk-off. This has been obviously so scripted and she reads this thing, I guess, before she comes down and wanders around shaking her butt.

1:44:32 But which makes it funny as you listen to this and it is the worst type of writing. It's the most they use the adjectives overuse of adjectives. It is it is a self-promotion for Trump. It is everything that's wrong with the world summarized in this walk off. Well now to the woman who knows what it's like to take the top prize and deliver life in the spotlight as she takes her final walk as the reigning Miss USA please welcome back Kristen Dalton. This magical year has been filled with priceless opportunities to meet incredible people, work with dynamic causes and travel our great nation and so many parts of the world. Working for the Miss Universe organization has taught me to be stronger and more inquisitive and to encourage young women to dream big and realize that with education and hard work, anything is possible. I want to express my deepest gratitude to everyone who helped me grow and to achieve my goals.

1:45:29 to God for my countless blessings and this amazing chance to make an impact on the world. My family, the best support team ever. Mama, Julia, Kenzie, Drew, and Daddy. The Miss Universe organization, especially Paula, Lark, and Esther. And Mr. Trump, you're the world's best boss. Being Miss USA has been an absolute honor that will never be replaced by any other experience. But I'm not finished yet and I'll take everything I've learned and apply it to my next dream. Working at Wendy's. My next dream. I just... it was a jaw-dropper listening to that crap. What garbage! I think... was it Miss, um, Oklahoma or one of them talked about states' rights and she got... Nah, Miss Oklahoma. Play it. Okay, here we go. Welcome back to the 2010 Miss USA pageant live from Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino Las Vegas. Now, it's on to our finalist's most difficult challenge of all. Is this the skater feather guy?

1:46:30 No, that's the guy who's the host. Oh, okay. That's right. It's the all-important final question First up Oklahoma come on over pop yourself to a car and dive down in Well, you hear the applause tape get cut in did you hear that? Yeah Hey, dude, there's a fader on that button and by the way talking about that I You know that this has been to do that the positive are turret being turned up and down by the control room because during this question The guy the guy asking the question has to calm the audience down from booing But you don't hear the booing so the audience actually isn't miked at all no They don't so that you're saying the booing was put in no There's no booing the guy that didn't Mike the booing and they didn't always have a booing thing shoot up the audience with in other words the audience wasn't it Mike so they couldn't get the booing and

1:47:29 But I've seen clips of her being booed everywhere. No, no, check that was put in later because here's the real clip. Okay, just so you know, I saw a clip of The View and on The View they show her getting booed loudly. Loudly. Okay, well here's the real clip. You tell me if this is what you heard. Okay, meanwhile I'll go see if I can find The View clip. Come on over. Help yourself to a card. I'm diving in. Not literally. Okay, judge number two, Oscar Nunez, your question please. Hello, Ms. Alhela, how are you? I'm doing so great, thank you. Alrighty. Arizona's new immigration statute authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they view as a country illegally. Now, listen to the question before you boo. Critics say this may amount to racial profiling. Do you think that this should be mandated by the state or by the federal government?

1:48:24 I'm a huge believer in states' rights. I think that's what's so wonderful about America. So I think it's perfectly fine for Arizona to create that law. And I am against illegal immigration, but I'm also against racial profiling. So I see both sides in this issue. Wow. Thank you, Oprah. Thank you very much. Oh my God. Oh my God, John. I've got to find this freaking clip. Oh my God. On The View. Booing her! There you have it.

1:49:03 Oh crap, Ola! Hold on a second. Not only that, but when they turned up the applause on her, which is what they actually did, that was also a tape because there's a whistle in there that shows up, it just corresponds with a beat, you know, it's just this very... I mean, I whistle in audiences and the whistle never sounds so perfectly the same each time. And they had it coming in two or three times, that little whistle. But yeah, no, the guy says, stop, don't, you know, before you boo. But there was no noise because the audience wasn't mic'd. So how did all of a sudden The View get a copy with the audience mic'd? You don't mic the audience after they've gone home. Oh my God. Oh man, if anyone in the chat room can find that clip, that would be... We can run it again next week or next show. Maybe I have it here. Let me see. Let me see. Yay everybody, it's The View! It's whooping over!

1:49:57 Oh, it's Elizabeth Hasselbach! So, less than 24 hours after Rima Faki was crowned Miss USA, photos emerged of her. Alright, let me skip past that. Let me see if I can find the clip of her. I hope this is the one. This looks like it. Alright, it's in this clip. Hold on, it's coming up. Oh, we gotta listen to this, John. I'm telling you... I'm a huge believer in states rights. I think that's what's so wonderful about America. Now listen to what they say.

1:50:39 I think it's perfectly fine for Arizona to create that law. And I am against illegal immigration, but I'm also against racial profiling. So I see both sides in this issue. Well, she fixed it up because she got booed. She didn't get booed? She got booed in that clip. Yeah. Let's let's do it. Let's A B it for a second here. This is this is actually quite interesting here. Hold on. Where's where's your clip? Do you think that they... did it sound different to you? Yeah, they have a little... they have audible boos in the ones that... Let's listen to York. Alrighty. Arizona... illegally. Now listen to the question before you boo. He's even setting up, before you boo, before you boo, before you boo. Critics say this may... Shut up. That this should be... Shut up. I'm a huge believer in states' rights. I think that's what's so wonderful about America.

1:51:44 Okay, now let's listen to the view clip. There was no booze in there, right? I'm a huge believer in states rights. I think that's what's so wonderful about America. Nah, it sounds the same to me. Now there's a little booing and they've also changed the pace. It sounds a little more, it sounds less cheering and more kind of, oh, you know. Yeah, but it doesn't really matter because they come back to, uh, It was the big woman who sits at the view table. The bigoted black woman. Here she is. Oh, she fixed it up. She got booed. She fixed it up. Because she got booed. It sounded like she got booed when she said, I'm four states making the laws. And then she came and just went. I don't know. I can't take this. Yeah, line them up and shoot them. Shoot them. Two to the head. Every single one of them. Hey, whoopie, how you doing?

1:52:45 So Michigan gave her thing and she added you know just a dingbat question didn't make that much difference. The main girl, the girl from Maine who was like 6'7", who didn't have a shot in hell to win anything, she ended up getting a question from Trump's wife that it ended up chilling for Trump. We can play that one. Do we have to? Why? It's fine. It's funny. What's Maine? All right, then we gotta stop this. No, I got one more cuz you gotta have the Virginia. Wait, wait Okay, then skip the Maine and give me this one You got to play Miss Colorado because this one came in very close to that girl who started talking about the globe And you know, we don't have you know, this is a dumb. This is the dumb one Johnny's the gate guy. Oh, he had new feathers Hello

1:53:34 Okay, so the question. A new social networking site has become a place for young people to anonymously post gossip, nasty and sometimes sexual comments about their peers. Should such sites be regulated by the government? I feel that it's hard to regulate these sites, regulate any website, but I feel that we should take it into our own hands to be above the status and to show people that we should be kind and caring to everyone no matter who they are, what they look like or what they believe in. Alright, thank you for all of your work. To be above the status. To be above the status. Stop. Alright.

1:54:16 Want to wind it up with a little we told you so moment Although I won't play the jingle until the product is officially on the market. We've been talking about the eugenic eugenicist agenda Behind a lot of the people who are pushing the vaccines and I believe because I can kind of recall where I was I know I was at the At the minimum containment cell there in San Francisco when we when we talked about this on the show and I said you watch the next thing is male birth control vaccine and And here it is, male birth control, stopping sperm with ultrasound. And this story's been out for a week or two, we just didn't get to it. We blogged it. Yeah. At Bill Gates Foundation. Yes, it's the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. If you see Bill Gates, go kick him in the nuts, will ya? Kick him in the nuts. It's crazy. Anyway, I believe that is kind of it, John.

1:55:10 Yeah, I think we're done and I want to remind people that after the music plays to stay tuned because I have a clip of the reluctant spy discussing a very disturbing situation that everyone should at least listen to. Wow. Just in time because you're starting to fade on me through the Skype connection for some reason. Good. Yeah, good. So yes, thank you all very much tomorrow on no agenda stream calm with course you we still would like to See more support for that to the vorac org slash NES Fubar Friday edition of the daily source code also open source as is this program and until then

1:55:54 I am Adam Curry coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning. And apparently breaking up here in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again together for Sunday morning early service right here on NO Agenda. impact on me. I thought it was very important. So we were in Peshawar together and we happened to drive by the Taliban embassy which was still functioning. And I mean this is in March or April of 2002 so it's well after the Taliban government had fallen in Afghanistan.

1:56:55 It didn't make any sense to us. And as we're driving by, he pointed it out to me and he said, you know what we should do? We should break in there one night and just steal everything they have. And I laughed and I said, yeah, that would be funny. And then we looked at each other and I said, you know what? That's exactly what we should do. So we went back to Islamabad and Tommy pitched it to his FBI bosses and they gave the go ahead. He requisitioned two vans from the embassy motor pool and assembled a team of people.

1:57:31 We drove up to Peshawar, waited until about 2 o'clock in the morning, broke the cheap lock off the front door and went in and just started taking absolutely everything in the building. Computers, files, cell phones, weapons, money, anything. Anything that wasn't bolted down to the floor, we jammed it into these two vans and drove back to Islamabad. Because September 11th was an open criminal investigation, of course the FBI had the lead here. So Tommy, not emailed, but cabled the FBI saying, we did it, no problems, everybody's accounted for, got everything, we're going to start going through it. They said, congratulations, please advise if you find anything interesting. Well, four or five days later, he came up to my office and he said, you're never going to believe what I found. It was a file folder with telephone bills in it.

1:58:24 and the telephone bills were written in English. They were Pakistani issued telephone bills and they documented 168 calls made from the Taliban embassy to numbers inside the United States and I mean all over the United States. Bethesda, Maryland, Los Angeles, Buffalo, Kansas City, all over the country and those calls stopped abruptly on September the 10th 2001 and then started up again slowly on September the 16th. So he... So you had a live one? A live one. This is the best lead that we had during the time that I was in Pakistan.

1:59:07 Well, he was very, very excited about this. This was a very serious catch. And so he cabled the FBI and said, be advised, this is what we've found. We're pouching the originals back. They said, good catch. Please make sure the originals come to such and such an office. And we were so busy, I kind of put it out of my mind. Went back to the agency several months later, stayed in touch with Tommy and I asked him whatever happened to those phone numbers at one point. He said nothing that I know of. I know that we sent them back to FBI headquarters. I know that they received them but I haven't heard any follow up. Well then a couple of years later I left the agency and I spoke to him again in 2005 and I asked him whatever happened to those numbers? Were the traces ever done?

1:59:58 and he said, you know the FBI never traced those numbers. They said initially that they didn't have the Pashto translators necessary to dedicate to the job. And I said, but the bills were in English. They didn't need to be translated from Pashto. That was the reason why we knew what they were. And he said, well all I know is what the FBI is telling me. They were to parties in the United States. They were to parties in the United States. Now, in a worst case scenario, This is terrorists living among us. Quite. Or terrorists sympathizing. Which we, it was clear that, and the Bureau, remember, warned us about that. Indeed. After 9-11. They did. They could have sleeper cells. Sleeper cells. Attorney General Ashcroft at the time was very clear about the possibility of sleeper cells in the United States. And Al Qaeda's leadership had alluded to the fact that there were sleeper cells in the United States.

2:00:49 Well, 2007 finally comes and I asked him once again, whatever happened to those numbers and the FBI traces? He said that to the best of his knowledge nothing was ever done with them. And then finally I ran into an FBI, a former FBI colleague with whom I had served in Islamabad and I asked him and he said that the phone bills were put into a box and sent into an FBI storage facility in suburban Maryland. The box had never been opened and nobody had ever traced those calls.