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00:00 Did you go this morning? No. Bad boy. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, August 23rd 2026 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1897! This is NO AGENDA In the morning, Gitmo Nation welcome to... NO AGENDA 1897 The best podcast in the universe And this is NO AGENDA version one dot two beta And please welcome back the co-guest host that we had on the previous episode on Thursday, the one and only Sir Ducifer Mr. Robb Dew! In the morning everyone how's everybody doing out there? I hope i'm coming in loud and clear Loud and clear no delay It was it was the weirdest thing on the last show I'm like why is Robb so slow? I never noticed he was a slow thinker you know

00:49 I'm usually on the ball ready to interrupt at a moment's notice. And then, uh, realized late like oh you know there must have been some... and i was like what Rob did do you have a bad connection or do you have a couple of tabs open on your browser? Yeah and I replied back well my browser probably looks like John C Dvorak's office at this point. I mean I am a browser tab fiend I have Finder windows and three browsers open each one with like, I don't know 40 windows. So yeah we closed all that. Oh man you have 40? How many tabs do you have? 40 tabs or 40 windows? No probably like 8 windows with 40 tabs mixed around total. Now i mean now I have 3 tabs open

01:31 So we're looking good. When you say Windows, what do you mean? Like file folders? You're on a Mac right? I'm on a Mac so to say... I have Firefox, Safari, Brave, you know all the different browsers open because each one does different things. No wonder! Well here's the thing Mr Robb do Whenever Gitmo Nation likes something, whenever they're really digging something people always do things like they make jingles. They put together end of show mixes and since you are... I mean no one even called you a Zionist shill! I'm amazed. I'm worried actually. There's still time Here is the mix just for you from Just Baker Yeah

02:21 Atoms at the helm again, wingman locked in the right seat Two pairs of eyes clutting through the same medium heat They don't just report the weather they measure the dew point That exact degree where the narrative vapor turns liquid And you finally see the beam Just do it Just do it Heal the frame, name the game Let the morning light Do what the night couldn't Sir Lucifer and the Podfather Deconstructing the same old script Just do it Just do it

03:12 Just do it, just do it Just, jus-just, ju-just do it Yeah! I mean, come on man. That's some love right there! I'm literally gonna walk down the street with that blasting on a speaker The question is are you on super male vitality pills right now? Is that what's going on? You know what i did take though? I will admit...I did take the methylene blue this morning Hold up wait for the drop Wait for the drop

04:04 Yeah, yeah Welcome! All right. You know, that's something we never did on Noah Jendis play music in the show I'm like man, I really wish I could play some old-school music and what am i thinking? I got this producer made mixes might as well use them in the show now do something different yeah exactly Well it was that one that played at the last show I didn't make it to the end of last No one made it to the end Rob no no That's brand new Nice. How did I mean before we even start with deconstructing the news? Yeah, how did I miss the freedom 250 Grand Prix being today You

04:47 You know, I had no idea either. My mind has been... I was looking for clips so i wasn't even looking at it Is that a race car? Is that what that is? It's IndyCar A street race in Washington DC Oh wow! Yes this- I bet the traffic is awesome today Well of course all the liberals are complaining how horrible this but This could not be more American Oh yeah And also Do you know anything about racing? Are you a racing guy, do you care at all about that stuff?" You know I know you go fast. I know you need to break and shift. That's it. Because I think Formula 1... And I could be wrong. I think the Formula One cars now also have batteries Oh wow! I don't if they're hybrid or not They are heavier Well they had to go green because you know we've got to go green if were racing in the United Arab Emirates Um.. And uh..

05:44 I think the Indy cars, they just burn fuel and have explosions. They burn fuel, they burn tires... A lot of fossil fuels in the making. Yes, I love it! There's nothing like having the Strait of Hormuz being in dispute over oil and we're just like burning it into the sea It's beautiful man! What a shot of the car driving past the Lincoln Memorial that's what I need You know Trump is watching right now This so good...I do have a racing thing though I did do a drag race one time Really? And my mom 1986 Buick Century that she got from Mary Kay. It was pink, okay? Was that a straight six? It was a straight six! Oh man... And I caught a second which I don't know if people know that's when you peel rubber when you go into second gear so that's called getting a second and my friend had a Caprice Classic and I blew him away because he had too much weight So your mom was a Mary Kay... She was a sales director

06:46 Because when you're the top if you're at the top of your game, that's when you get one of those those pink cars Right. She got three cars from Mary Kay. That's how successful she was Yeah And now I know what? I look back at it and like that's amazing because this was in the 80s and you know people maybe had a lot Of money or it was you know It was a different time there wasn't didn't seem like everybody had disposable income so But she would go out in her business suits and come back, and she would hold parties. And it just got bigger and bigger. I love that! Yeah three cars out of the whole deal you can't beat that no wonder you're an entrepreneur it's your blood man It came from your mom that's awesome yeah and she started off as an English teacher so...

07:28 It's pretty amazing. Now she is retired and a grandmom, she just loves being a grandmom Is she nearby? She in Texas? She lives down the street When I moved to Austin in 98 slowly everyone of my family moved here Because this place was really cool you guys should come And now it's way too crowded and how do I get out of here Right but at least you got grandma nearby Yeah, yay. That's great that's how you do it and all the extended family is close by my brother is probably the furthest now he's out near Beaumont but we all kind of went from Louisiana over to Texas very nice oh you're from Louisiana

08:07 Originally, yes. On the other side of the highway? Basically other side of the Sabine River I mean we were like 20 miles from Texas so okay always looking to come... Always mall shopping in Texas because they had better malls So i got a clip from several different people which kind of pertains to you and I wanted to respond to it and set the record straight that have another comment about this is from Alex Jones Alex Jones live dot com show. Can I mention one last thing and i'll let you go? Well we're not censoring you, you doing that uh... You're not, you're doing it! You're doing the thing brother! Doin' the thing! The next caller will do it too! No, your on the air! Go ahead

08:50 Is there any chance you're gonna link back up with the Revenge of the Cis guys or Adam Curry from No Agenda? Because he's a Rogan guy. He's in Texas, you should really link up with Adam Curry Yeah I like Adam Curry! He's really smart! Last time he was on my show... Ten years ago, he got a big backlash from his supporters and said... No. Oh my biggest interview is with you but I can't come on your show you can't come on mine That's not like three years ago at one of Rogan shows the mothership shook his hand and said Hi to his wife Right. I mean Adam Adam Curry won't come on the show Well he found Christ recently, his co-host John C. Dvorak just passed away RIP and you've got some time now I think you guys have a big crossover audience Alex and i think you should take advantage of that. You're lobbying me? He won't come on the show so... Refuse! Alright well thank you for having me on Alex Yeah thanks for the call Look there's this thing..I was the first person to get really censored And im still on on YouTube Instagram Facebook and most things

09:49 And I'm only allowed on Rumble and only on X and Alex Jones live.com that came in and took over Infowars all that So people still know like it's safe to do anything out there, but be with Alex Jones So I love Adam Curry But people are always they have this person or other personal they won't come on Joe Rogan is afraid of me So and that's fine. I'm not mad at Joe it's fine He can say everything I say now and be safe, but the globalists are like a hunting dog. That's after in Target Don't get near Jones or you'll get big problems Okay so let me just tell the story this was during the great PayPal D platforming

10:28 And Alex asked me to come on, I said brother right now we're having so many troubles and we can't sell vitality pills. If we get kicked off of PayPal we got a lot of problems and later actually people got so mad at PayPal for another issue that a lot of people just pulled their subscription So we got hurt regardless Wow Brother Alex, I would love to come on again. Absolutely And I like that he's that he remembered that Tina and I met him at the mothership His new wife is fan. That's he's married to her right his new wife Is that yes? He still with our second wife second third there's there's definitely still together. Okay She was hanging out not too long ago. She is very sweet sweetheart. Yeah, it's always Alex even Tina's like Alex is a sweetheart

11:14 Did you notice his, I don't know how long ago you saw him but he's really gotten in shape in the last couple years. Oh yeah of course I saw that! He looks like a different person people were accusing him of being a clone and I'm like no it's the same guy That's what happens when you lose weight and shave your head. But it's true, they're cloning all the celebrities you know this right? And then you have your digital twin and actually someone like Alex would pay for it so that he could then retire to the bunker in Hawaii. God the documents is all true! You know I saw a second half of show clip but didn't bring it to the show but there was a guy saying he had a friend who was in the path of a data center

11:52 And he calls him up and his friend's like, hi I've moved to Puerto Rico. Yes it was a number i could not refuse! I'm very happy now and he's like that doesn't sound like my friend He thought he was cloned or you know some company stole his voice so it was pretty interesting and you're looking at me like well It's possible. You know, here is the thing if humans can think it it's then possible yes you know it may not be technologically possible right when they think it but 5 10 20 30 years down the road you know all we have to do is come up with the idea and that's one of the cool things about AI especially with images you know if you think it you could possibly get a weird looking version of what your thinking

12:35 Although, yeah. Created! But you know there's a lot of wokeism in AI Oh I know And some of it...I mean not some but A lot of is because people believing these black boxes actually are telling the truth and they use that as some kind of oracle like hey tell me what this is about These things are only really good as tools if you know what the outcome was supposed to be as an all-knowing, all seeing device. But actually that brings me to the first topic which as you and I discussed on Thursday everything is about the midterms. I don't care what it is It's all about the midterms And its unbelievable how people are falling into it left and right. The data centers well thats one of the big ones. And if I were the mayor or governor

13:27 and I had a chance to get the big plant in an AI plant or data center, I would absolutely want it because the jobs are enormous. And the money paid, the taxes paid are just enormous." President Trump hosted tech leaders at the White House to discuss US efforts on cryptocurrency and artificial intelligence. Trump says that technology is crucial to create more jobs and beat China but voters have different perspectives And PR's Deepa Shivaram reports. The president argued that if he were the mayor of a town, he would want an AI data center there for the tax benefits. But if I were a governor or mayor, I would want that plant in my community and many of them are designed in a very beautiful way. That puts Trump at odds with the majority of Americans. A Gallup poll from March this year said seven in 10 Americans oppose an AI data center getting built in their area

14:18 Trump, in his remarks acknowledged that AI data centers could use a quote little public relations help. But his stance underscores how his perception of the technology differs from voters concerns which could be a top issue in the midterm elections this year. There it is! Top Issue! Yes! Let's make it a top issue so do you go to church out there and driftwood? Yes, it's an Episcopal church. Did you go this morning? No Bad boy I know So We go to church early on Sunday morning and this data center thing there's like this confluence of messaging that has just come together to the point where

15:00 Very rational people completely believe that data centers are pretty much demonic. I mean, that's the word I hear they're going to take all the water They're gonna take all the electricity which you know some of that is true They are gonna use a lot of electricity well we were covering that Jeff at the last show definitely some of that is true but there's this these additional things that have come in and And first of all, AI is all under control of Peter Thiel. Palantir is using AI and they're going to control everybody kill everybody They kill everybody who's not a Jew They're the only company doing it The only company...they are not even an AI frontier company but you know in fact the do quite the opposite But that this is like the Whitney Webb thing It all comes back to Peter Thiel and PayPal mafia then the what's the Epstein? It all comes back to that

15:51 You add in this one extra bit, which actually saw you... I have not heard your clips of course but you brought in some clips that would still be relevant. Now people add the flock camera so now these data centers are going to be filled with surveillance on us Skynet is here we're going to be completely controlled will be digitized and the Antichrist is in the data centers This is just not true. It's just not true Well, and if they want to track you they're already tracking you through the phone you carry around. And they're posting their fears on Instagram and TikTok, which is the literal Skynet! No they're posting their crimes They are like let's cut down these flock cameras Which I think is...I was gonna say this after I played some of these clips But that's the psyop of hey go cut down your local flock camera nothing will happen I'm like there's somebody running this thing to create a flock protection system because then it's gonna become really bad

16:51 you know, like right now it's just vandalism. Well now it's going to be... Now you're messing with infrastructure and it's going to be some weird thing where they turn it around and go, now we're gonna get ya! And it's 20 years in prison for touching a flat camera That's what I think. Well, that's an interesting take. Well that's where it leads it always leads to that we got to create something protected so this is the surveillance system that we're creating or who's creating? We don't know but there are other companies out there other than Flock that are doing the same thing but we don't hear about them How about Amazon with the ring doorbells which everyone gladly put on their home

17:30 Right and now they're clear of wind. They can see in boxes What are these flock clips you got? So the the first one, let's see let's go to Well, let's see I got I got a Vader on flock Let's start with Vader on flock this is Darth Vader goes to a City Council meeting and he's voicing his support for fly cameras. I was looking for people who Initially bitching about it, but I'm like out of these clips are kind of funnier of the people being sarcastic and promoting flock so The Emperor is a fan of flock And we must continue utilizing flock technologies So that we can follow and surveil the rebel scum as they move from playground to playground From playground to pool for food to gymnasium because we all know

18:21 know that the flock cameras are not only following the license plate readers, they are following children. They are following children in parks and gymnasiums and we need this I need it so i can stalk my ex-girlfriend." I saw this guy he was great. I gotta ask Rob the constitutional lawyer...I mean I'm not so sure I mean, I know that municipalities are getting rid of them everywhere. City councils are going hey you know we made a mistake here there was and I grew up with this nonsense in Europe with traffic cameras and you know at a certain where it actually led to with them like in the Netherlands

19:03 It used to be a flitzpilot, so flash poles they'd call them. Which is obviously a camera... Oh crap I got flashed! So then you just get a fine... You actually see the flash as you drive by and your like oh man I got hot, I got flashed exactly But then they changed it They changed it to these sensors with let's say maybe 5 kilometers in between And so they clock you when you hit the entry on the highway, and if you hit the exit too soon then boom. You're done. You clearly were speeding in the interim." So they have these sections of highway where it's just clocking you. The opposite of Indy or NASCAR is not how...You have to go exactly at the right speed

19:53 And I, you know it's working over there. It's stupid but people are like ah might as well just slow down here and just go oh well here is Rob the constitutional lawyer he is checking in right away to listen. Oh good Are you about to ask him whether there is any expectation of privacy on a public road? Well you know what I'm asking you Rob I am asking you because to ask that question is to answer it I guess public, okay. You know, isn't that trapping you? Isn't that entrapment? He's going to have to write me a brief

20:30 a brief. Well where it gets interesting is that you know they take this stuff and then they hold it and then right in some of these police departments the police departments are tracking their ex-girlfriends I think that's a small minority obviously but they'll use it for other things like a crime was committed and you were seen on this road at that time yeah not for not for speeding purposes but you were seen there so we're going to come and question you And there's video of that, of cops going to people's houses and questioning them. They're like you stole a package! She's like I drove through that neighborhood because it was a shortcut. Nope, you stole the package off this lady's front porch.

21:08 What else you got here? Alright, so we got now we have I'm assuming this lady's a mom because he just kind of gave out the the mom vibe. She's sarcastic Mom on flock one and she's basically doing the same thing that Vader is doing but she's got a different twist on it and I kinda like this twist and I'm all for if we're going to do to everybody, then let's you know if we're going to put plot cameras on the trails and everywhere that we can possibly think about well let's make sure they're in front of our public servants homes. You'll probably remember me I was at the last meeting in opposition to flock but after seeing the recent data coming from the sheriff's office I'm gonna call for more clock cameras double triple even! I want the most that we can possibly have

21:56 I'm requesting they be placed in the commissioner's office, in front of the commissioner's houses. I want them at the sheriff's office, in front of the sheriff's house and I want them in front of every government employee's house. This wasn't an issue pointing one at my driveway so it shouldn't be a problem right? Anytime the Sheriff, Commissioner or Government employee leaves their house, a drone should detach from the camera and follow them wherever we go This is for safety and to protect you. Don't worry, it's just a license plate reader no big deal I'm not lying to you You can trust us we're here to help I like that and that kind of dovetails into JCDs. He wanted cameras in the classrooms, yeah. Here's Rob the constitutional lawyer he says the Fourth Amendment does not apply unless you have an expectation of privacy creepy overbearing absolutely unconstitutional sadly no The Fourth Amendment prohibits unlawful searches and seizures

22:57 Let's play your second clip, your second mom clip here. We can also use unique identification numbers in real time as you move tracking things like your Bluetooth, your car GPS and your dog's microchip And no this is definitely not a slippery slope of constitutional liberty just because some judge who works for the government maybe might say so In addition, we could add an extra layer of security and every government employee email and phone could have a digital online clone. That way every taxpayer can go in view your text messages listen to your phone calls see your search history and listen to your voicemails on that device

23:36 If you don't have anything to hide, it shouldn't be a problem. Right? We'll only store this data for 30 days though I'm being totally honest about this For the low price of a few hundred thousand dollars why not spend the extra money surveilling the government their use of our tax dollars and everything funded by them if you're not willing to have those transparency as a public servant while you erect a surveillance state around citizens then you're a hypocrite y'all stay blessed I love the ending. Y'all stay blessed. Rob continues, if the camera can see inside your car you may have an interesting question the question will again turn on whether you have an expectation of privacy in your car and and i just say that the final point is that

24:22 Everybody is freely giving their location, their data, their communications with a non-exclusive license to have that data copied and reproduced and replicated and remixed and done whatever... And sold. And sold! To whoever wants to buy it So this is just like a red herring almost Like oh I'm so upset about this you shouldn't use a single app. The apps are what are doing it and maybe this will lead to that, maybe people will start looking at their phones and going wait a minute no no no they won't they love it too much. And its easier just to bitch about flock I mean you can't go to a city council meeting if you can't put it on Instagram What's the point? That is true! I'm sure that this mom thought that as well and the crazy thing

25:18 is that this so-called incredibly intelligent artificial intelligence, is really... I mean here's a clip that I pulled to help people understand how the corpus of how a lot of this recognition is actually done and who does it. A lot of people see artificial intelligence as something that is largely automated, frictionless and just appears as a useful tool for us but most of the human hours that go into making artificial intelligence possible are not done in labs in Google or OpenAI, the majority of the work is actually very piecemeal data annotation work which is outsourced to various locations in the global south. Everywhere from India to East Africa to the Philippines where this data annotation work is undertaken by an army of millions of workers across the globe. Now just to give you some context this data annotation could include something like

26:19 annotating a street scene for an autonomous vehicle. So drawing a box around what is the tree, what is the child? What is the street sign so that as you're training and autonomous vehicle to essentially see the road, the algorithm that powers it will be able to learn the difference between these objects. And this doesn't happen on its own or automatically. This requires hundreds and thousands of human labor hours at what I call digital sweatshops, which are located all across the globe. And this is often done in very substandard labor conditions and the whole process of hiring these workers and outsourcing the work to them really mirrors in a lot of ways the outsourcing revolution that happened in manufacturing and IT. And I think when it comes to things like coffee or chocolate or our clothes

27:15 I think a lot of listeners would be aware that this is part of the global supply chain and i think what we need to realize is that advanced technology like artificial intelligence, is still part of these global supply chains. And im gonna push back on this dude I know a guy who has a company and he actually had this in the very beginning of Value for Value with Podcasting 2.0 was streaming Satoshi's, it was a company called Sphinx and they actually had set up this... They were very excited about the Lightning Payment System because they had an entire army

27:56 people working in the Philippines, which is not a third world country. There's a lot of issues for sure and these people would do exactly what was described you know cat that deer human bicycle yeah but in essence the other side of your captures but doing it for artificial intelligence and they would get paid micro payments per completed assignment And they were able to take that, convert it into gas cards gift cards Cards for local supermarkets and they were doing phenomenally well. I don't know if they're still in business...I presume they are So that's actually not all that crazy and not all that bad But this is just another part of it. Oh their digital sweatshops By the way there's a lot of people in America who do this work too A lot of people

28:47 My daughter did some, she was doing all kinds of stuff for Google for a while during COVID. All kinds of tagging recognizing I mean it was everywhere it was just like a great little side gig but somehow... I always find it interesting those captures now they want you to do three or four in a row before the website will let you check it out and yeah used to just be one now No, no. Here's another picture identify these cars. Yeah okay It's so crazy that I have to convince a robot that i'm not a robot. There is something so wrong with that So these data centers, which I truly believe will not actually be functional as data centers. We heard on the last show if you didn't go back and listen to the guy from ERCOB or they're not from ERCOB but the Energy Commission in Texas. Yeah in Turkey Texas. Turkey Texas that they're looking for stranded powers thats power that can even get into the grid because it's... It would overload the transport lines to the grid itself

29:48 And so they, you know these the data centers. They're smart You know like hey I want to create a base load you can power my machines and then I can sell off some excess capacity When it's not needed or not at night or when there's no wind Yes There have been some projects that took you know especially in Virginia over the Alexandria of Virginia area where all the existing data centers are yeah? They started to suck more power But now it's just seen as this evil, evil thing. And I'll reiterate this is a boondoggle of bonanza get your kid you know they will take anybody who wants to work they'll teach him a skill teach them how to weld teach him how to be an electrician teach them how to wire stuff teach me how to get coffee for all i care just like the oil boom This is a great opportunity It's only going to last a couple years The data centers

30:42 are not evil inherently, but this has now turned into a psyop which is anti-Republican. You know, and the Republicans are doing it to themselves. This is so crazy like well I can't vote for anybody who's four data centers. Texas Governor Greg Abbott once dubbed his state the epicenter of AI development that truly is a Texas size investment in our state an ABC News analysis found Texas is now among the states with the most data centers with more than 300 in operation and at least 200 more in the pipeline. But as opposition grows in Texas communities... This is my investment, my home and it's being ruined. The issue roils the governor's re-election campaign. Greg Abbott took 20 million in campaign donations from data center executives and companies and he gave them billions in tax breaks. Abbott now reversing course. We must

31:38 prohibit them from building AI data centers in rural Texas neighborhoods. Putting a freeze on new data center projects as the state audits them for energy, water usage and tax incentives-a move President Trump called a mistake. For Texas to say no to data centers is a mistake in the sense that It could be bigger than oil. Wow! So none of these guys, including the president understand anything at all about this stuff or the fact that the frontier model companies which means they're the leaders of burning money

32:15 that they are the ones themselves who have scared everybody about, oh well it's going to break in everything and it is going to bring down entire systems and that super cyber hacking. And it's gonna steal your Bitcoin, you're gonna break into your bank account which is backfiring on them in a tremendous way where the new anthropic Fable used to be called mythos. They rebranded the fable no one's using it It's too expensive like we're not gonna use that crap and use the cheap stuff from China This is fantastic. We let we get load onto our computers. Yeah, right ourselves a lot cheaper Our own little data center here in our homes so Abbott who doesn't understand anything at all and yes I

32:59 Small towns, that's what happens in small towns. You get a bonanza you get the small town expense... They get something that brings jobs to that area. Yes! That happens all the time It happened with the railroads and it's so analogous to the railroad because yeah lots of tracks are gonna be laid and all those companies will go out of business and many many many years later We might be able to use it for something. It's a mall, you make it a mall! All kinds of great opportunities but Governor Abbott he doesn't know what he is talking about and now he is trying to play the political battle and I think he is coming off as an idiot

33:42 the ABC this morning. Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott once vowed to make his state the quote epicenter of the AI industry, now he has put in place a moratorium on data center construction that issue along with inflation and anxiety about the Iran war is among the factors that have Texas Republicans nervous about the midterm. Nervous nonpartisan cook political report which rates elections across the country this week rated Senate race a toss up, suggesting Democrats have a real chance of winning a seat they haven't won in decades. We traveled to Austin to talk to the Lone Star State's most powerful Republican- Powerful. A leader who is also facing a tougher than expected campaign for reelection as governor. Governor Abbott thank you for having us. I'm glad to have you in Texas. So how much anger and concern are you hearing out there about data centers?

34:37 So what we've been focused on is responding to concerns that have been raised about data centers and making sure that We have created a structure. That's going to do more than any state to solve the problem as governor I have outlined The greatest detail and most comprehensive plan of any governor in the United States of America To respond to the data center challenge humana humana humana the data center challenge You know if he actually knew what he was talking about This is an opportunity for the American people to take money from Blackrock, from Vanguard From Google from Meta. Take their money! I got example of this too a big example So we got some friends that live in Alexandria right outside of DC and they live in this beautiful neighborhood You know the houses are

35:30 big compared to I would say upper, upper middle class standards. You know maybe these are 1.5 million $2 million houses. That's what they'd be in Texas up there they're probably more you know probably close to 3 million but everyone in this neighborhood and they're surrounded by data centers. You drive out of their neighborhood data center, data center, data center is just giant big buildings and so obviously the data centers want to absorb this neighborhood they're giving these people four million dollars at home, four million dollars for their house and then they're just going to bulldoze these houses and put a data center up. Which is I'm like i can't believe that that...I mean it's a boondoggle for everybody in the neighborhood they're like sure we'll move for that much. Yes of course! Then you could go where do we want to go? Like what's our dream place to go to because then you have dream money at that point too use

36:28 Go plant your flag somewhere else. And so people are like, government money! This is not government money this is private money this is private equity they're raising huge money in bonds this is the way to screw Wall Street I'm telling you, you can go back in a few years and buy your house back for $750,000. Or if it's not been bulldozed or you can buy the dip in the market when the market drops. There is so much opportunity here because everyone knows this bubble is going to blow up. This is the same thing with Metropolitan Fiber in the 90s

37:07 You know, all this money just tons and hundreds of billions of dollars went into... no maybe it was more like hundreds of millions but that's billions today. Went into fiber being laid everywhere and only now! Only now! What do we 25 years later finally getting used? Do I get it here in in rural quote-unquote rural, Texas 80 miles outside of Austin Yeah So and there's no eminent domain that the railroads was eminent domain screw you were going right through you The guys who were in oil and gas who are already making out like bandits You know

37:44 You know, it's not gas they're burning flaring off in the fields that you see creating dangerous greenhouse gases. It's methane. Methane that they cannot transport because there are no pipelines going from the gas fields to wherever it needs to go. It is not affordable but look at what they can do and what they are doing! Data centers are going near the gas fields. Oh well I can take this methane? Okay, that's extra It is, I think a once in a lifetime opportunity where money is being transferred from the incredibly wealthy rich

37:07 You know, all this money just tons and hundreds of billions of dollars went into... no maybe it was more like hundreds of millions but that's billions today. Went into fiber being laid everywhere and only now! Only now! What do we 25 years later finally getting used? Do I get it here in in rural quote-unquote rural, Texas 80 miles outside of Austin Yeah So and there's no eminent domain that the railroads was eminent domain screw you were going right through you The guys who were in oil and gas who are already making out like bandits You know

37:44 You know, it's not gas they're burning flaring off in the fields that you see creating dangerous greenhouse gases. It's methane. Methane that they cannot transport because there are no pipelines going from the gas fields to wherever it needs to go. It is not affordable but look at what they can do and what they are doing! Data centers are going near the gas fields. Oh well I can take this methane? Okay, that's extra It is, I think a once in a lifetime opportunity where money is being transferred from the incredibly wealthy rich

38:22 to people who could use a break. But you got to be opportunistic, you gotta be like an American and we do this all the time in America this state sucks I'm moving to another state but oh there's no opportunity here i'm moving to that state where there's an opportunity This happens all the time! This is our entire history Well thats why Texas is growing so much People are coming her for jobs for the opportunity And... The only thing I can see is there are some anecdotal stories about the noise of these data centers next to neighborhoods. And, you know one guy showed something about his cow he had had a live cow birth but you're not seeing a lot of those... You're not seeing a ton of people saying that. You know? You're getting a story here and there and they may have some validity too. Absolutely! So it's just a matter of....and I don't really mind Texas going hey we're gonna take a pause and we're gonna look at

39:15 these concerns and see what happens to see if there is an overlap of that. But I don't think it's gonna last very long, we've had the- But that's not even why is being done because they're afraid of losing the midterms? Well sure, that's only till after the midterms then the study will be complete and then you'll be like yeah here come the data centers! Here's our governor with new rules! Let me tell you what I've done, I have pressed pause on any new data center being able to join the operations in the state of Texas. Other governors have done the same, yeah? Well here's the deal that during that pause I had set guidelines and guardrails that all data centers have to comply with number one they must identify what water usage they're demanding and make clear they are not taking water from communities that need it number two

40:03 They must not take power from the Texas Power Grid that's needed. Number three, no one is taking power from the Texas grid governor. That's oh man! Must actually lower the cost of electricity for consumers. They will! Number four they need to make sure that they are not disturbing neighborhoods or rural communities These are standards that now being universally applied by all the data centers in the state of Texas. Do you have a co-op for your power where you are? We're under, yeah this it's not I can't think of the name of it right now. But it has to do with the LCRA but it's a co-op for like Eastern Hayes County. Okay we have a co-op here too and they're like man this is great when are you going to hook up some kind of data center out here in the hill country where nobody lives and then build your power generator?

41:00 Well, you know one thing I'm not good for is yeah. I don't even know what my electric bill is because my wife takes care of all that but when we moved into the house I did put solar on the house and mainly just because We had gone through The time where all the power went out that winter storm in 2021 Yeah Where you know people lost fire? And I'm like You know what will at least be able to charge cell phones and keep our refrigerators running with this it's not gonna power everything in the house But it'll do good enough And that's why I got it, even though it's never probably gonna make its money back. But for me it was...I could be traveling and if something goes wrong we're going to have some power. Yeah we were in the same situation in Austin no power for five days We couldn't get out because of the ice on a cul-de-sac On a hill? Yeah 23 degree incline!

41:48 And so we got here like I don't care what we're doing. We're buying buying a whole house generators. I got one of those generics It's expensive it's an investment for sure sure but man the power has never gone out since With the generators is cool you could see it somewhat at what it pops on it's like You'll feel the power goes out and maybe maybe half a second or whatever then that thing kicks on it up, it's going yeah This big clunk. That's the big switch that happens by the way Indiana, we have family in Indiana. They are still without power. That's amazing! Right near Geary which of course is a very poor area and

42:26 And, you know Texas definitely has done better than that. Here's a we'll continue with now the hate what is driving the hate for the data centers? I mean we see it not just in Texas but all over the country. I mean some of these town hall meetings some of these public hearings real anger What is driving it? Is it the energy costs? What is driving the anger So one thing is the rapidity that these data centers are coming online, that people didn't see coming. The other is the way that they data centers, they didn't do their job to get the support of people in local communities. Gaining the support of people in local communities is essential because they did not do that. That's why I am now coming in as governor saying listen if your data center

41:48 And so we got here like I don't care what we're doing. We're buying buying a whole house generators. I got one of those generics It's expensive it's an investment for sure sure but man the power has never gone out since With the generators is cool you could see it somewhat at what it pops on it's like You'll feel the power goes out and maybe maybe half a second or whatever then that thing kicks on it up, it's going yeah This big clunk. That's the big switch that happens by the way Indiana, we have family in Indiana. They are still without power. That's amazing! Right near Geary which of course is a very poor area and

42:26 And, you know Texas definitely has done better than that. Here's a we'll continue with now the hate what is driving the hate for the data centers? I mean we see it not just in Texas but all over the country. I mean some of these town hall meetings some of these public hearings real anger What is driving it? Is it the energy costs? What is driving the anger So one thing is the rapidity that these data centers are coming online, that people didn't see coming. The other is the way that they data centers, they didn't do their job to get the support of people in local communities. Gaining the support of people in local communities is essential because they did not do that. That's why I am now coming in as governor saying listen if your data center

43:13 And you want to operate in Texas, you have to first get the approval of those in local communities. That's why I set that standard no data centers disturbing local communities in Texas. It was last year that you said that Texas was the epicenter of the AI industry. In hindsight did Texas move too fast? It wasn't Texas that it was moving fast. It was these data centers but they needed approval from the government Well, so what data centers were doing and this is the problem that we are facing here in Texas. But you mentioned what's going on nationally? Sure. And that is they pop up in places nobody ever heard of before until they started the construction

43:56 And so they had not been working in collaboration with the state. They'd not been working in collaboration with local governments, and so they basically dug their own grave for the problem that's been caused for them and that's why they got the backlash they deserve. That is why these new standards are in place to make sure they're not going to be able to operate until they come into compliance with the standards I have set. I'm telling you this is just a psyop. The Democratic Party has done a great job in these Republican states You know, that's totally true. If they had gone and done something like an Operation Lockstep and figured out the messaging and then rolled it out the right way and then hired Willie Nelson to make songs about data centers you know? That's what they didn't do! They didn't do it the right way. Like, Willie, Willie here's the new song. Remind us of Operation Lockstep... What was that?

44:46 took place I think in 2010 and that was a Johns Hopkins thing. And it was basically if we're going to have a pandemic, this is how we're going to operate these all right? How do we roll out messages to the media they also had the spars 2020 something as far as agenda. Oh yeah, a lot of actual like tweets that you could You look at these tweets out there and they were fake in part of the exercise. Copy paste, copy paste the tweets. Exactly but then they're in the real world and they're like we are going to get rappers to tell people to take the vaccine. And Dolly Parton! Dolly Parton! Yeah and when there's problems will admit it a few years later and will kind of bury it which is that's the part that's kinda happening now with the vaccine. They are like yeah there was some problems but you know thats the way... We didn't know at the time. Hey its me

45:34 I'm finally gonna get my vaccine. I've been waiting a while, I'm old enough to get it and smart enough to get it so I am very happy that I'm going to get my Moderna shot. And I wanted to tell everybody you should get out there and do it too. I even changed one of my songs to take the occasion. It goes Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, I'm begging of you, please don't hesitate. Vaccine vaccine vaccine vaccine. Cause once you're dead then that's a bit too late." Oh my goodness! That-that's messaging right there. That... that's what they didn't do these data centers didn't hire the right public relations firm. Well before this it was the best

46:22 The BESS, the battery energy storage or big energy storage systems. Oh God that never worked! That was a no... well we had one in the next county I might have been Kendall County I can't remember and you know and that was a big deal and now it's the mosque it's always gonna be something And I still don't know where the sleeper cells are of military-age men from China who are going to attack us from within. No one's concerned about that anymore." Well, they're all in US colleges at this point. That seems to be...I have some NTD clips about that very subject we could get to whenever. Yeah let's do it! So NTD China U.S College 1

47:04 The World Health Organization has very painful decisions to make according to its chief He described the large sudden drop in funding in US foreign aid as severe. Well, that's I must have given you the wrong clip or renamed it wrong Which well which clip because this is like a three and half minute clips Oh wait How about if it's here? Maybe it starts here hold on let me see this might be at Rob. Hold on think I see your problem The Pentagon is ordering several universities to audit infiltration from the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign adversaries. Just how entrenched has the CCP become in higher education? Entities Washington correspondent Jack Bradley has more

47:47 The Department of War this week notifying 30 universities they must audit their ties to foreign adversaries by the end of the month. Multiple outlets citing U.S. officials report Harvard, MIT Georgetown and other top schools are among them these schools partner with universities or research facilities in China Russia or Iran. The Pentagon specifically naming China's rebranded Confucius Institutes which promote Communist Party sanction materials covered on no agenda campuses Congressman John Molinar, chairman of the Select Committee on China says these partnerships pose undeniable national security risks. Some analysts say infiltrating higher education is part of the Communist Party's playbook a tactic it used a century ago to take power in China The Chinese Communist Party views infiltration of higher education as a key factor to overcome an enemy What they did 100 years ago to the Nationalists was first elite capture

48:42 and simultaneously grassroots activism to move things in the direction of the Chinese Communist Party. Here we are a hundred years later, and it looks like we're watching a replay." You know I'm surprised that no one has made the... again if you and i were doing the PR but I mean I'd say hey! All these DSA socialists they're clearly being controlled by China, by the sleeper cells Confucius Institute No one's making that connection. It's such an obvious one. People got pissed when Trump said we're going to let China send in a few hundred thousand, 600,000 students or 400,000. Yeah it was a decent sized number and people were going hey that's gonna just prop up this current system that's creating the social justice warrior pipeline

49:39 You're taking people from high school who are basically normal and then they come out with blue hair and nose ring. And so there is some validity to that, but I don't think it's...I don't think that's what you're getting from China necessarily. You're getting...China is probably too well in clip two, it goes through there's a A general, or I guess they were auditing a class that the Pentagon was putting on for top secret military work and they go in there and it's being taught in Mandarin Chinese. Which I thought that was interesting because that is clip too." With Pentagon funded projects being taught directly to Chinese nationals. The Department of Defense at the time had funded a class on advanced weaponry

50:24 at a major Midwestern university. And when they walked in to do the spot check in the class, they were teaching the class in Mandarin to not U.S students so the program was ended but it is still happening in different places uh...in our country Yeah, well this of course is NTD who just hate everything China. Oh yeah they definitely do and I mean everything was anti-anti Chinese even they had what it was like Chinese voter fraud I'm like oh what's this? It's one guy that they caught and he basically voted...I have this clip He voted for his neighbor or whatever that and then he tried to turn in his neighbor for voting illegally but his neighbor actually could have voted if he wanted to because he had a legal right

51:05 A Chinese national has been charged with voter fraud in Massachusetts. The Justice Department says he submitted a fraudulent voter registration and ballot by impersonating another Chinese national the DOJ alleges 33-year old Yu Pin's son voted in the 2024 presidential election in the name of his victim who was a lawful permanent resident After registering to vote and casting a ballot, Son allegedly sent a tip to Homeland Security Investigations in 2026 claiming his victim voted illegally. Sun has also been accused of submitting two fraudulent immigration forms on behalf of his victim and the victim's wife. The DOJ says the couple had their green cards confiscated as a result. Sun faces charges of fraudulent voter registration and fraudulent voting, each count carries up to five years in prison along with a possible fine of up to $250,000. The DOJ says sun will be deported afterwards

52:06 You know, we were watching the West Wing again last night. We're now in season four and it's so odd to watch this because this is where Martin Sheen, who's the president. He's running for re-election he has MS he's got multiple sclerosis which they hid and then... Oh, he was trying to hide it yeah And they you know so he got censured by Congress but he basically lied about it and there is a lot of Joe Biden type stuff in there You know its like wow this is... It's like they knew So it's very odd but the crazy thing was this season 4 I think episode 7 or whatever Its reelection night

52:47 and they have the election results, and they call it at 11 p.m., Eastern Time." How dare they? It's like wait a minute! We haven't counted the California mailing ballots this is no good we need one more month it's so bizarre just like in...and what is that that's 20 little more than 20 years ago And we're now where we are today That's just that's so insane You know Florida had their election results like by 7 30 8 o'clock that night. I mean it was, i'm like why can't why can't everybody do it? Like Florida they were they were done we already knew uh the only thing that was weird it looked like Dan Blazerian had votes taken from him they showed some votes at one point and he had like eight thousand then the next drop they're like hey he's down to six thousand so that that was that was the only uh coinkydink yeah um that I saw in that that election but that's you know and who knows what this

53:43 what any of this stuff means, but this Chinese thing you know it's one guy and he was basically trying to get his neighbor kicked out of the country. It wasn't even had nothing do a politics which is interesting because You know your like what are the reasons for voter fraud? Do you think well we want to install this certain person? This is how we're going to do it We're gonna give this guy all the votes with the voting machines But here you have a Chinese guy going in and going hey I'm trying to get rid of my neighbor I don't like his cooking or whatever, who knows why. But he was trying to get him kicked out and that was the way to do it which is completely antithetical for every other reason you think people would commit voter fraud." The Strait of Hormuz is still hotly contested we've moved towards a

54:29 a strategy of more economic pressure, which I even got a note from our producer in Bahrain. He says this is working. It's you know UAE is also cutting off all economic ties and that's your general Scott Patton Besant at work shutting everything down And it's starting to now just be obvious that we have been in control of the straight or hormones. I don't care what people think they're reading, and this is all to keep oil prices elevated for oil companies who are having just an incredible bonanza profit year

55:18 on all of this, but we're close to parity in what's being transported through the Straits of Hormuz as well as through the pipelines. Probably about 20% less but that shouldn't result in these high prices or that will rectify itself eventually Here's a couple of clips about it. Sounds like draconian. I think you're missing the first part, it's like draconian? Things that we could sanction. We have very draconian sanctions and we'll see what happens right now the strait is open a lot of boats are coming through. Boats! Boats! We got a lot of boats coming through. I got my outboard motor.

56:12 I got two barrels of oil on it, let's go. A lot of boats are coming through people aren't reporting that and that may slow down a little bit at some point but right now a lot of boats are coming through the naval blockade has been extremely effective zero I mean literally while it's up and that's been for quite a while, you know except for a couple of little pauses Well we opened it purposely at with the deal but the deal didn't terminate You know The deal didn't turn out to be what they said you know when they tell us one thing and they do another but their blockade has been 100% successful no boats have gotten into Iran But they are getting in four other places. We'll see we're gonna see what happens Italy there

56:54 Be extremely good and oil prices are going to drop like a rock or we'll continue to do exactly what we're doing. You know, they were talking about three hundred... Wait a minute I'm trying to understand the logic It will be very successful if we continue to do what we're doing it's gonna be great! Be extremely good and oil prices are gonna drop like a rock or we'll continue to do exactly what we're doing you know They were talking about $350 dollars a barrel And it's today 84, 85. Yeah and also to be you know factual about it I remember during the course of this show oil was above a hundred back in Wow, the 210s I think? The teens. Yeah there was a point during Obama's presidency where I actually rode my bike to a band practice I was in because I'm like...I don't feel like driving! It was the gas was like four something a gallon it was ridiculous that was like 15 years ago yeah i think i was in California at the time and it was probably $20 a gallon. It was very expensive six or seven dollars

57:56 Here is, this is on CNN the colonel from CENTCOM and he's confirming that 10 million barrels a day are moving through the Omani route. CENTCOM has quietly guided 10 million barrels of oil a day in a stealth operation setting up a shipping corridor hugging the coastline of Oman you know that's more than 80% of the liquids transiting through the Hormuz Strait over the past two weeks have taken this Omani route. That's about two-thirds of prewar levels the U.S has been blinding Iranian radars and blanking them out and shooting down Iranian drones and cruise missiles we're showing the tracking here, of hugging the Oman coastline there bypassing Iran here what do you make of this?

58:40 So this is great to be able to finally talk about this and see this in some graphics. Because what's happening is going on for anybody who's in the Straits of Hormuz, particularly U.S. military that the Iranians do not have control of it and they haven't closed it. Meanwhile, the US blockade is closing off all traffic to Iran but letting out any other traffic that's not. Current ship tracking shows 10 to 15 ships a day for the last several months have been getting through the straits and so this is what's happening, the Navy is doing its job." And even CBS! It's the Cajun Navy delivering oil now. CBS confirms that what CENTCOM says is true

59:19 While President Trump says the US controls that critical oil shipping route known as the Strait of Hormuz, Iran says that very same thing. Same assertion! They control the strait. Well here's what the president had to say about the straight standoff when they tell us one thing and they do another but the blockade has been 100% successful no boats have gotten into Iran, but they are getting in for other places. So the president might have been referring to this report from Axios revealing a stealth operation millions of barrels of oil through the strait two officials told Axios The US military helps empty tankers enter the Gulf to get the oil and then leave under US protection. Live now at CBS News, senior national security correspondent Charlie Daggett. Charlie what do you know about this? Well first of all Reid we don't have to hang on Axios anymore I can confirm those reports but... Okay hold on a second! Axios is the shills for the Trump administration's we don't have to rely on them it's true! What do you know about this?

1:00:18 Well, first of all, Reid, we don't have to hang on Axios anymore. I can confirm those reports folks that I spoke to at Central Command and the Navy said that the US military and part of the naval blockade is to try to ensure the safe passage of ships along the Strait of Hormuz both in and out of the strait. And they said that they had been repeatedly intercepting Iranian drones and missiles trying to target those ships Okay. Well, I do have a better description of Trump saying... and he has a great pronunciation of Hormuz. Trump-Hormuz is USA from... And this is from a rally he did over the weekend So we went down and we stopped them They'll never have a nuclear weapon they want to make it deal so badly

1:01:00 We don't even know if we're what because I view the Strait of Hormuz as an American territory right now. What? It's an American territory? Hormuz! Hormuz, we've been calling it the Straits of Hormuz for a long time Mr President that's wonderful So he said that was the, that was a rally I guess he took. He did over the weekend but you know, he's calling it a US territory. He put out a tweet or a post, a true social post and it showed the circle there and is like U S territory. Yes. He saying this is ours we can do what we want with it. And I saw another headline in the last couple of days where now it's up to 15 million barrels a day so they're ramping it up. Oh yeah. I think it just took time and they probably had to identify coastal

1:01:42 spots where the Iranians were gonna target planes from, or target the ships from. And so taking those out now they can do this and the Oman side's apparently a lot deeper than the Iranian side in the strait by like three times deeper. Yeah it's a lot deeper over there yeah So its only as they say 20 to 60 meters on the Iranian side then its like 100 meters down on the other side. So it's a lot deeper. Well, we're being ripped off and we're being ripped off by the oil trade just... We just are. Sure they're using the crisis as you know they're never letting it go to waste. You know the ICE, the ice exchange is run by

1:02:25 by the UK and we got greedy oil guys in Texas too, you know for the WTI. Here's an example on I think this is CNBC we have a uh...an analyst who knows everything about everything obviously Let's bring in Aleema Croft head of global commodity strategy at RBC Capital Markets. Aleema happy Friday thanks for the time good to see you Thank you for having me. So, um... We've been putting sanctions on- Thank you for having me! I'm ready to see the oil go up! ...off and on for decades How do you think this new chapter might be different? Iran is one of the most sanctioned countries in the world. The question is, is this going to change Iran's behavior? Or do the Iranian leadership believe that they can outlast us at this point? That we want this war to end before they do I mean, I do think that the double blockade

1:03:12 hurting Iranian oil exports. The question is what more can be done? Are we really going to go after Russia and China which helped Iran militarily I mean that remains... What?! Why do we have to do that? They're not, they are not supporting Iran at all anymore. At all! China ran away immediately Russia's like mmm okay when I think they they're busy you know, getting ready to obliterate Ukraine. Right? And the analyst is like why haven't they gone and started wars with these guys? Like what are we doing here? The question is what more can be done or we really going to go after Russia and China which helped Iran militarily I mean that remains to be seen but

1:03:57 I've never heard that happening before. A bigger country helping out a smaller country during a war? Where does that happen, i've never heard of that! I think there's a view that Iran believes they can outlast us Here is what the treasury secretary Halima said yesterday on this show about what they're going to announce If we are doing the maximum economic pressure, then that means that likely there will not be a large-scale kinetic restart. But I would emphasize that is for now and look we do have control of the street Scott Besson, as much as I like what he's doing. He is just and he sucks as a public speaker. He really can't he's a stutterer Oh, he's trying to figure out the right words each time instead of like just preparing something I just look at him speak and I can only see Elizabeth Warren's face It's something about it. Just looks like Elizabeth Warren well This woman continues, I think so Lima. I mean that this sort of newfound posture you think it works?

1:04:56 I'm sick of this. Look, Iran is still firing on ships in the Strait of Hormuz Yes the US is escorting some ships to the Omani Channel but Iran still has clear capabilities To fire missiles at ships What missiles? No! They may have drones...I don't think they have missiles left To fire missiles at ships To do drone strikes on infrastructure In the region Look what happened to Kuwait in terms of power plants being hit I got some feedback from

1:05:35 from some parents of people on the USS Lincoln, on boats really big beautiful boats. And I understand they're like the show criticized this! No it was a naval aviator and Vietnam veteran so you know we were just relaying the message no granted it's just two people but they kind of wind up with You know, like you can't send anything Amazon only one Amazon package got through. I'm like wait Amazon can send a package to the link that's pretty badass myself is pretty amazing you know no you try spending 200 days on a tin can and my reply was

1:06:20 First of all anyone who signs up for armed services in my book right away is already a hero is more courageous than most people I know Should be revered and they know what they're signing up for the right. They know what this and I love them for that And I understand that you as a parent as a husband as a wife as a child You're your concerns, you're upset I get it. My whole family is military, at minimum intelligence at best and i'm the black sheep but I got this great note from Boots on the Ground

1:06:58 Our boots on the ground said anonymous. On the ship? Are they on the ship with regards to the sailors, Iran and hygiene I was deployed supporting epic fury as well but i was on the dry land portion of it as a soldier under NAVCENT that's Naval Central Command The best way to describe the living situation and the complaints is that while it isn't great so this person was on the Lincoln It most certainly could be worse. A phrase to keep in mind is that it's the God-given right of every soldier to bitch, closely followed by if they aren't complaining somethings wrong. Give a soldier a solid brick of gold and they'll complain it's too heavy As far as moldy showers go they may have screwed up and not ordered enough cleaning supplies And can't exactly make a run to buy some more But responsibility for keeping those facilities clean belongs to those same sailors complaining

1:07:50 Sending out a picture of moldy showers eight months into a deployment doesn't have the same implications as service members deploying into moldy conditions. The problem can be traced back to those living in those conditions, he's kind of putting it on themselves On the other hand imagine the worst parts of Groundhog Day and this is the part that got me because yeah I can barely imagine how tough this gig is This job You wake up, you go do the same thing every day. You never know when it's going to end but unlike Groundhog Day if you screw up... ...you and your friends die! There is no weekend when you get off shift that is back in your room or bunk maybe to sleep before doing it again They may not be in muddy trenches but the mental wear and tear is real and hard to imagine if you haven't lived through it

1:08:36 On a warmer note, it took me far too long to redeploy but at least I had started moving and could break the monotony from shift work. Sitting at breakfast one morning with another soldier flying back with me was shooting the breeze discussing the peace deal back in June...June! And the implications for Iranian and American economies. I brought up using the lens of confessions of an economic hitman to view the deal from and without a missing beat. He looks at me, and goes man there's this podcast i think you'll really like that deals with media deconstruction? He proceeds to tell me about no agenda nothing could have brought me more joy than dropping some nightly credentials in response listeners really are everywhere and hiding in plain sight keep up the great work it goes an incredibly long way And so yes! It is a war

1:09:25 I mean, it's hard. Look, I'm old and I'll be 62 in less than two weeks. Wow! Thanks Rob. And I still maintain that I am Gen X I was the face of January. I think you are, yeah! You're on the cusp...you're one of those cuspers. Yeah they call it the Johnson generation or something which doesn't sound good to me at all but anyway But this Iran has been a problem for the Iranians look how that country changed and by the way

1:10:05 1946, 1979. We screwed it all up! We did it! And then we believed in 79 that everything was going to be fine and then it wasn't fine so this is something that had to be fixed eventually and here's a president who will just do it and it will be better for the world It will take some it's gonna take a little bit. It's not gonna be easy That's the thing none of this stuff is easy None of this stuff never getting a ship getting ships out there to the Persian Gulf and multiple ships and changing them out all these are giant under complicated undertakings And yeah, it should not be taken lightly I you know I was looking at these videos going oh

1:10:47 It's moldy showers and clogged toilets. Is it really that bad? Maybe it is, I bet the stench is probably pretty bad." Well your comparison to a burning man hit a lot of people. A lot of people like that a lot. That was sort of an offhanded comment but you're living on these porta potties there you know, sucked out every day. It gets pretty bad and they missed a day and it was like I'm not... You're looking at each one going oh my god! And each one you're like okay that's even worse Oh my- Okay Alright I guess i'm not gonna eat today So with the eating we get to the affordability crisis which no one denies The beef yeah Where is the beef? Before we get to the beef

1:11:37 I really tried to understand this, what we did with the long-term bonds and the T-bills, the short term bonds just to understand what this is that what is happening or really what happened for a moment and didn't happen. And this is... The idea here by Besson because this is the guy Besson is doing it Is to lower interest rates without the Federal Reserve lowering interest rates And the way you do that is to make the... He basically bought up, Treasury bought up a lot of the 30-year bonds which are the loans. You know, 30 year loans. That's how we print money in America as we write a bond and then, you know, you buy it from us and we take that money and spend it on stuff like military

1:12:30 And the way you pay for it is by writing short-term bonds, which are typically three months. The T bills they call them which are seen as cash in the market you can spend it as cash and for a moment there at work because the long term yield as they call it basically that the interest that you get paid back on those long term bonds went down And everything is priced upon that, including your mortgage and your car loan and all of this stuff. So the idea was good but it only lasted for maybe a session and a half and started to go up again which means they'll probably have to do it again

1:13:12 And it looks like he will do it and he will do at an even greater rate. Here is the general himself. So talk us through what you are trying to do here by announcing the increased size of buybacks? We're trying to signal that we think this a thinly traded area in the market that we're in August and there's been a lot of corporate issuance that has influenced the market. And, you know, we believe that there are many underlying factors in turn...that the market is not looking at." So what he saying here?

1:13:49 is that a lot of money has been raised in corporate bonds, which is all of this AI money. The money your kids should be going out and taking from these nut jobs on Wall Street." That's what he's saying and because of that the market's distorted And we are going to make a market in these. We routinely do buybacks, and we're gonna increase the size of the buyback. And Sarah I would note that it could be more than 4 billion per issue More. Yeah, I was going to ask how big this could get if the signal here is that you're not happy with the direction of yields? You know they've gone back the other way we have erased most of the Treasury rally that you got yesterday with that big surprise so how much more are you willing to do

1:14:38 Well, again we have a big toolkit so we'll see and part of it is signaling here and to show that we believe that the yields don't reflect the underlying fundamentals. Now not in this interview but the way the underlying fundamentals are seen is because of the tariff money that went back to corporations which by the way is not going back to you No. I just want you to know, not going back to you the corporations they didn't have to pay they got discounts they negotiated all kinds of different rates with the suppliers and then they get a refund which is your courts doing that okay so that has distorted the market that's distorted liquidity in the amount of money the Treasury has but the funny thing is this is not a new thing it was called The Twist

1:15:32 The treasury twist and it's been done before. Oh, asymmetric. So I think that he's got something he's got a very big toolkit ladies and gentlemen the market should think well why would we have joined the Japanese in the intervention at this time? Do we know something the market doesn't know that in terms of being willing to do you know what I would call a treasury twist here

1:16:16 in terms of the bond market, what do I know that the market doesn't know? So you know... Wow! ...I think the markets probably gotten a little ahead of itself. I love this. I've got a secret boys and girls What what do i know with my asymmetric... Did he say asymmetric? Yes, asymmetric information that you don't know, stand by. Why did we help Japan? Hmm? I don't know if you heard this...I heard an Into Show mix. Come on baby! Let's do the Treasury Twist. Yes, I heard Chubby Checker and also heard the Peppermint Twist, the Treasury Twist. Dude how did that go? The Peppermint Twist. I don't remember that one. Yeah but that is because i'm a boomer. Hold on a second.

1:17:06 Peppermint twist song. Okay, that was a classic see I grew up with all that Joey D and the Starlighters there you go Joey D! Joey D and the star lighters let me see if i can find this Oh yeah baby! 1961. Three years before this boomer came to earth. This is again, I said it's not new. Listen to this activist treasury issuance that term was coined in 2024 by Rubini and Steven Myron when Yellen did this yelling and at the time they wrote an warned that her move there now doubling what she began That her move was equivalent to lowering rates right? By a full point Myron of course would go on to become Trump's key advisor and on the Fed himself

1:18:18 So, I think according to them these moves do have a big economic impact. Yeah they do! So Yellen did this she was criticized for it not just by Trump's financial advisors but by this guy It has been the policy of the government and successive treasuries now Yellen did some of this too To not do that...to not be opportunistic You go in and you buy bonds, and you know the government is not going to game your purchase. For example on the day of a 20 year auction But she's don't do that twist towards bill issuance And it's just continued right by the way who criticized it Scott Besson's criticize it who criticized it Kevin Warsh criticized? And now they're doing the same thing but but in much bigger proportions right now It might work because we're gonna do it bigger That's what Besson said

1:19:10 The victim of this, and the reason they do this and I think he will do a lot more for a couple reasons. One is to drive down the interest rates and it...I think that will work but the victim of it is the dollar It's basically debasement of the dollar so while your interest rate may go down, your actual purchasing power also goes down. Now it takes some time for that to shake out in the market but no one ever talks about oh my mortgage went down and you know the sad thing is that your purchasing power also goes down which is exactly why you saw Bitcoin skyrocket and hold I can't see right now but still around 77 thousand But here's here's the thing

1:19:59 The play here by Besant and by President Trump is to grow our way out of it. The $40 trillion mark that we passed for the national debt, would you comment on that? And how do we reverse that? Yeah look, uh...the 40 trillion is a big number It's smaller when we look at publicly traded amount because our civil security funds and other government entities hold a substantial amount and what we're going to do, we have to grow our way out of this. And as I talked about at G20 in Asheville, we are going to talk about the U.S growth strategy and encourage the rest of the world come along with us. We are also you know i announced that Director Russ Vought and I have been tasked with looking at fiscal consolidation. I think the numbers

1:20:50 are not the actual numbers now. We've had to do substantial tariff refunds due to the court ruling, but with Section 301 tariffs I am confident that we will be back at the same level if not higher of tariff income for last year and that is most of the increase in the deficit and remember we did not get here in a day that we were left with a mess. The Biden administration had the highest deficit to GDP in history when we weren't at war or weren't in a recession for 2025, we brought it down by more than 1%. General Besant no one cares about the previous guy? No they don't nobody cares you know I was just looking at the last five years of mortgage rates 2021

1:21:37 3%. You go to 2022, October 7%, that's huge. And then it got even higher in 2023 October, 7.89% almost 8%. No one was complaining! No they weren't complaining like they are now and it said 6.76 It seemed...it was trending down which is interesting it was trending down till February of 2020 right before we went into Iran it was 6.17 now it's up to six point seven six So it's trending up and I think they're trying to do what they can to keep going up even more. Yeah, the problem is that people just aren't making enough money. That's right you know that's the problem and that is always because of money printing debasement this is... You could call this quantitative easing but it isn't exactly the same but this brings

1:22:26 The Mar-a-Lago Accords, as I've called them for close to two years now brings this into play. This is where the stable coin gambit comes into play. So the reason the yields on the 30 year treasury bonds are high is because people don't want American debt. Why don't they want a lot of debt? Because it's $40 trillion already like these guys have gotta pay back and seems unlikely So we need to create a way to have people take our debt. And this is why General Patton Besant is swapping out the long-term bonds for these 90 day short term bonds known as T-bills because this is what stablecoin is backed by. And there's 300 million people around the world in economies where they have their own money and it's sucking

1:23:23 And they just want dollars. And this is how we're... It's not forever, it may be for my grandchild I don't know about my great-grandchild But this is the gambit they're going to do now. Here's an explainer of stablecoin once again, let's talk about stablecoins because this is a type of digital or cryptocurrency whose value is pegged to an asset most often it's pegged to the US dollar now so unlike Bitcoin for example or Ethereum whose prices can swing wildly stable coins are backed by reserves such as cash or us short term treasuries or T-bills to keep their value fixed

1:24:00 The market for stable coins has exploded as of 2025, like you just said. Some estimates put that at $300 billion dollars. Citi for example predicts that a figure could top 1.5 trillion dollars by 2030 or 3.5 trillion in a bull case scenario. So well this is the only way they chose it's not the only way of course it would be great if we You know, if we just went into a severe depression and we reset everything that's not going to happen. Nobody wants it you know but it's just

1:24:36 You think it's hard now for groceries, wait till depression happens. Exactly. A handful of companies dominate the space. The largest by far is Tether a private company known for its coin USDT Circle which went public in June your recall issues a stablecoin known as USDC together they control more than 80% of the global stablecoin market The majority of the money that's backing those coins are parked in US Treasury bills. And that is a big reason why the US government is encouraging the use of stablecoins and passed landmark legislation over the summer, creating guardrails for the industry itself. Issuers have become major buyers of short-term government debt effectively creating new demand for treasuries and extending the reach of the U.S dollar worldwide

1:25:26 So this is the, they call it the euro dollar. But this is the dollar that all these other countries are going to use. They already are using it. Venezuela was using it. Iranians are using it now what happens in America as people will always run as fast as they can too hard assets gold and silver and honestly I don't know if gold coins and silver coins is really the way to go. The prices, how that works it's such a kind of scam... The fact that Ben Shapiro was selling gold coins has got tell you something they can't be a great deal You want to look at if you're gonna do that Don't go for anything Oh this is historic! You're going to pay $8000 an ounce instead of whatever the price of gold is That whole thing is very sketchy

1:26:20 The reason why Bitcoin is going is because it is by definition a hard asset and the money people know it. Look at who has been, who's holding Bitcoin? The same companies. And they're getting more. They keep doubling down. They keep buying more and more and more. I'm not giving anybody financial advice but I'm planning on it Because it's just so easy to sell, to buy. So much easier than gold and... It's easy to lose too you lose that hash You're done Well we do have the I'm not a fan of that but We do have these ETFs And that is essentially buying exposure to Bitcoin That's probably a relatively safe way to do it and you can do it now through your bank Through your brokerage account if you have one Your 401k

1:27:16 You can go online and sign up, and you could put money into it. I think that's probably a pretty safe way because this our money, our treasury, our debt is being tokenized as the first real thing to be tokenized across the world. Not saying that i'm a fan of it But it's a fact. This is what is happening. What is tokenized treasury debt? Government debt is one of the oldest and largest financial markets in the world. Treasury bonds are normally traded through banks, brokers and clearinghouses with settlement times measured in days. Tokenized treasury debt takes those same bonds and represents them as tokens on a blockchain

1:27:55 The underlying asset does not change. What changes is how it is stored, transferred and traded. Tokenization means creating a digital token that represents ownership of a real-world asset In this case the asset is a government bond or treasury bill Each token corresponds to a claim on the underlying security which is a shared ledger that records who owns what without requiring the central clearinghouse. This does not mean the bond itself disappears, the bond still exists in the traditional financial system The token is a wrapper that makes it easier to move divide and trade A $1 million Treasury bill could be tokenized into 1000 tokens worth $1000 each allowing smaller investors to participate

1:28:38 No, investors. Okay and that's what this whole clarity act is about is the guys doing the stablecoin they want to which a stable coin being backed by treasury as far as I'm concerned is good as US dollar The banks hate this because the banks and the way the banks are going about it is saying well What if you run out of money? Because, of course the stable coin can't unless they're illegally making stable coins that aren't backed by treasuries. Yeah then that's a problem but that's pretty highly regulated. That was set out in The Genius Act so The Clarity Act is what the banks want to prohibit

1:29:19 the stablecoin companies from giving out incentives, interest benefits points you know all of this stuff because that's what banks think they're supposed to do but banks inherently are run on fake money completely fictional nonsense money so I'm definitely going to to be for the idea of using stable coin than a bank. Look at Silicon Valley Bank, I literally still have a Silicon Valley Bank debit card from when I had my company in San Francisco and we were... We had VC funding from Kleiner Perkins and Sequoia and all those guys. And boy you go well we're gonna give you this money but you're gonna keep it in Silicon Valley Bank wow! I mean we got away clean on that one

1:30:07 Banks do go bankrupt. But the problem is that these twists, these treasury twists this buyback it never lasts forever It can last for a long time it can work for a long time and who knows maybe we can grow ourselves out of it I don't know that'll all depend you know These 301 tariffs which are very easy to implement You know The president has all really has number ways he put all those tariffs back on Here's the analogy of monetizing your debt, buying your own bonds. Treasury Department's attempt to lower yields not quite achieving its goal this week. Yields back to where they were before the intervention was announced and actually are higher than they were a week ago

1:30:52 At what point could rates start to become a threat to the equity rally? Joining us now is Bernstein Private Wealth Management Senior Investment Strategist, Roosevelt Bowman. Good to see you! Welcome. Thank you for having me Mike Let's just start right there I mean we have yields higher maybe not at absolute levels that are threatening in particular but i guess the why kind of matters if it's just kinda this voracious demand for new debt and and i guess at some point what might mean for somebody with an equity portfolio for sure and I think the why kind of comes down to two factors number one you think about the inflationary pressures that are coming from the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and higher prices of oil. The other would be kind of what's the credibility in terms of both monetary and fiscal policy? I think part of the reason you saw that retracement in yields is that many investors kind of view that buyback announcement as

1:31:42 having a beach ball in the pool, putting your hand on it. As soon as you move your hand it goes right back up and I think that's really the challenge for the fiscal policy right now is that often when you're doing those sorts of measures you're trying to buy time and you're looking for other macro or monetary forces that are more powerful and durable to take over unfortunately that buyback announcement didn't buy a whole lot of time and now you know the treasury is kind of in a tough position they're gonna have to do it again they're gonna have to do more come up with something else And the Clarity Act, which I don't know what's in it anymore because this has been bopping around so many times. I think the stablecoin guys will get some kind of capability to hand out points or something. They're making a lot of money by the way. You get 3% or 4% on a T-bill that's 90 days

1:32:37 I mean, and you just make your then people are taking the stable coins off. It's guaranteed. You get it? Yeah. I mean they're making these are the smallest companies with the largest revenue in history that making hundreds of millions of dollars a month just by holding these treasury bills which their customers are buying from them but they're not really buying it. They're just getting to use it there. The guys that hold them so is it because they're keeping the interest. Of course. So they'll give you some points You know, some frequent flyer miles or something. And everybody can make a stablecoin Amazon will have a stablecoin Google will have a stablecoin and I'm sure they'll be giving you all kinds of... Elon will have a stable coin He already has his X money just wait for it and this Clarity Act is what it all hinges on The most important priority is for Congress to send the Clarity Act to your desk for your signature

1:33:29 That was President Trump meeting with tech and crypto leaders at the White House. The president and chair of the SEC are calling for Congress to pass the Clarity Act that would decide which government agency regulates digital tokens rather than allowing crypto companies to operate in a legal gray area Let's bring in the co-founder and CEO of Coinbase, Brian Armstrong He was at that meeting yesterday Really appreciate you joining us Brian Yeah, thanks for having me. Okay so let's get really concrete here you spent years saying the biggest problem in American crypto is a lack of regulatory clarity so if the Clarity Act passes the Senate in September which it's up for vote then ultimately becomes law what changes for an ordinary coin based customer that actually makes them safer? Yes this bill the Clarity Act its coming up for this vote on September 15th at full senate floor vote

1:34:18 It has a number of consumer protections that would make sure something like FTX could never happen again. It has strong tools for law enforcement to go after illicit activity, it also has the opportunity to create new products in crypto that would benefit Americans including, you know earning rewards on their stablecoin balances. The ability to go raise capital in crypto You know capital formation or issuing securities like that's something that could be much more efficient have lower fees And I think Bitcoin is telling us this is gonna pass and it I think it's telling us It's gonna pass in September because if this passes Stable coin bonanza is on

1:34:56 The whole world gets flooded with our dollars, which they'll love using because this whole system is going to screw the euro. It's going to screw everything. We become the ultimate reserve currency but everybody can participate in that through your stablecoin and hard assets like Bitcoin gold silver will increase I think a lot I have a vested interest in it increasing a lot. And yeah, the downside is that if you're using stablecoin unlike cash it can be turned off... It is in effect a digital dollar that has control not like your credit card is any different or your bank account even people have lost bank accounts and didn't do anything

1:35:48 illegal essentially. They were just labeled or you got a labeling for your PayPal yeah and that happened to Alex, happened to Nick Fuentes has happened to a number of people who when the government wants to go after you they're going to find a way to come after you and that is the genius act I think the banks got pissed off about that because there was sort of a Wild West yes and they're looking at hey we gotta come back in We're still the banks. We still get to run the financial system, we don't want this going off to a bunch of crazy kids." And also there will be... I mean this is anti-bank, this whole stablecoin idea which i think is good so there will be no more bank bailouts you know? The world is participating in the bailout of the United States by buying our debt whenever we need to buy you know a couple more manufacturers for more missiles

1:36:42 for Ukraine or any bells anyone else who wants to buy him. And we'll keep the oil flowing that's sort of the trade-off and we'll keep the oil flowing and will keep the security over the oil, that's what it is may not be a utopia but I think it'd be better than where we might have been or where we could be headed and it doesn't matter if it's a Republican Congress or Democrat Congress this is irrelevant to that its irrelevant and outside of it If they can get it done in two and half more years Yeah, it's a you know with all these things. You know people look back at my son was asking me about Bitcoin the other day he said why didn't you buy bitcoin I'm like well we laughed at bitcoin when we first heard about it and I remember Max Keiser coming up to be too brother was like you gotta get Bitcoin you got to get your Bitcoin It was like $5 And I had I have friends who had lots of Bitcoin and used it to buy pizzas who are probably kicking themselves To this day

1:37:38 Ed, you don't know which is going to be the winner and which is going to be the loser. But now with some of these things now you can kind of tell because the government is gonna kind of pick winners and losers and that's what it normally does And in these big things like this, there's always going to be some group that's going to benefit from it. Especially with the Genius Act that seemed to be going towards the wild west of stablecoin and creating in the banks like wait a minute we got to put a kibosh on some of this stuff and make sure that we're making our money because we still, they're trying to just say we're still important essentially. And you know Scott Best who knows what he's thinking at this point? He might be thinking I came into the financial sector now i'm going to change it in a way that is... It can't easily be destroyed like it was 2008. We have no choice! A lot of this

1:38:38 Blame it on Trump fine. This is this is this is kovid the Kovach trillions of dollars This is all the money that was printed to get us out of the whore You know, there's a lot of problems with the with overnight Bank exchange can't come up with the number with the name of it now During Cove right before Kovac actually we had the The collateral collateralized debt crisis of 2007-2008. This is all the banks, the banks have been doing this for a year and of course it goes back to 1971 we went off the gold standard which you can say was the worst thing ever on the other hand

1:39:22 You know, it made America very prosperous in a very short amount of time and then everybody got greedy and offshored everything to China and other countries. And I think with the steel tariffs and American Steel coming back the Hamiltonian system, the American system with tariffs and the tariffs are coming right back The 301 Tariffs you literally decide this...I think I have a... I had a tariff thing Let me see. Well, and you know what it need? What this type of stuff does is it reforces the Americans now to become back and participate because there's a lot of people who aren't working anymore that just decided hey I'm not gonna work I'm gonna sponge off the government in one way or another and live with my parents yeah now It's like hey here's the incentive You know become an electrician become a plumber become a welder You know all these jobs that are blue-collar jobs But I've seen reports so there was a report on X there

1:40:20 Some parents were kind of embarrassed that their kid became an electrician and in three years he was making $200,000. Exactly! So it's like now they're not embarrassed now like oh he's an electrician and he owns several companies and he makes over a million dollars a year And remember kids... This thing is all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin That's right one bitcoin Just one What else you got here, Rob? What else did you bring for us. Well there's the whole beef situation that happened on Friday with Trump saying we're gonna buy a bunch of beef and then I think he said beef product or somewhere along the way someone goes what is beef product? I think it's ground beef It's going to be ground beef from Argentina

1:41:12 Where most of it will come from he didn't announce that in the beginning But it seems like the second big buy of beef that it's going to Argentina's way So there is some something going on between us and Argentina probably because he likes their president The chainsaw guy Well, didn't we just do a big debt swap with the money swap with Argentina? Right. Yeah. A few months ago. Yeah so and we've been talking about this for awhile and already you've heard from Texas Slim our beef comes from Argentina yeah they take our good beans in the across

1:41:50 Hey Rob, you gotta stop. Someone in your house is on OnlyFans. Uh oh! Alright let's see... It's fixed it's working again I'm killing Windows as we speak. I had five tabs open. Stop with the Mac Okay, this is your boots on the ground cattle rancher? Well let's go with Trump on Argentina beef and then we'll do the boots on the ground cattle rancher. Here we go. The question is what you have to say to US farmers who feel that the deal is benefiting Argentina more than it is them as they are a... Look, look, Argentina is fighting for its life young lady. You don't know anything about it. They're fighting for

1:42:30 Wow, I hadn't heard that clip. Yeah it was on the plane and it was cleaned up very nicely too because I've heard other clips And I didn't do any cleanup on it. I heard that and I'm like, somebody did some processing on this before posting it so good job! Good work. There's lots of... So now we go to the cattle rancher which starts off with a great-I didn't keep all the Nat Pop in there but he's got an you're in a field and he's in front of cattle probably like 30 head of cattle and he's talking about from his perspective about this deal

1:43:22 Well, let's talk about it real quick. Right out of the gate this morning we've got an announcement from the administration about cattle beef prices. They're gonna import a bunch more boxed beef ground beef scrap cuts is what I call them and hopefully bring down the price of ground beef in the store for y'all. We've seen a market crash for live cattle live cattle that people like myself grow and take to the, you know processing plants or go down through the system. That's dropped 40 cents a pound already just from that plant closure now this morning the markets are crashing but will your price change? So far we have not seen that We have not seen that And at what expense do you I'll tell you what expense do you

1:44:27 This is the opposite of what needs to happen. We're not going to retain heifers and build a herd when we can have, you know, the stroke of a pen drop our price to where we don't make a profit anymore. And honestly that's where we stand. We finally begun to make a profit and all hell breaks loose people can handle it I guess because beef is high in the store. I get it beef as high in the store look at what else is high in the store Look at what's high for the rancher and the producer. Fuel, land, labor all of it you know? You got a nine dollar latte but seven eight nine dollars a pound for ground beef is too much right now you're going to get stuck with shitty ground beef trust me and we won't rebuild the herd and you're gonna lose more ranchers and in the long run you're gonna lose everything

1:45:31 Because where there are cattle, there is freedom. And when these disappear so does your freedom. I don't think this is going to work out like they hoped Okay, I have a couple thoughts about this. What what do you have? Well, I think Probably in the short term it's gonna drop prices a little bit but I think he's right overall We're having that Tyson is the Tyson plant that closed There's a monopoly on the processing which is where most of the high prices come from because these three companies not every Americans exactly

1:46:07 That's the problem right there. You want a clarity act for beef, wouldn't be bad. Hey we're going to have... We're going to create US Beef and are funded or something to get a U S company in there or kick out the other companies and then you get all these local and allow people to locally produce it and render beef. But I think he's right, in the short term it's going to drop prices and will it de-incentivize people to become cattle ranchers? That I don't know. Well there are a couple of things... And of course I've spoken with Texas Slim for five years about this He was here not too long ago, but he was pretty ill We were getting him some medical help when he came through here, he stayed overnight I gotta tell you, he was definitely not doing well He is coming back strong now Thank God

1:46:56 Yeah. And you know what's really happened, the ranchers have a hand in this too maybe not this rancher and there are many ranchers all around the country who are going back to their roots regenerative and have processing you can do processing You can do processing, but you can't sell it in a store. You can sell it from your process so you have hometown meats formerly known as KNC cattle and Luling. Yep I've gotten from there several times And Cole does all of his... he's his own geneticist He knows what he is breeding. He has got fantastic cows

1:47:35 And they process, they got... and that's another skill I might add that we need people who can cut. This is a very you know if you can learn how to cut beef You've got a long future ahead of you. So that's another thing. Beef, pork, sheep, chicken? Anything! Just cutters are very very hard to come by because people aren't interested in those jobs but they're well paid now So he's feeding his community. And that community includes you and Driftwood, includes me and Fredericksburg. We've had one of their military vets who'll come out and we'll pool all our neighbors together. They just bring us cash

1:48:20 And then they bring the boxes in one go, because you know the shipping is where everybody gets killed and it's very expensive. And they bring it from their own processing plant. It's local. You got the same with... The guys down there in Georgia. These actually has an entire town that is a part of this so that system works but a lot of these cattlemen have really just become commodity cowboys. And they just know I gotta put $1,200 worth of Cheerios in this animal. Like this guy was saying I take it off live animals and I take it off and send to the processing plant who control the price and the Justice Department is now going after price fixing between these big processing plants so there's work being done and there was absolutely price fixing. The price of cattle was incredibly high that's

1:49:12 That's why these guys have been making out. They've been selling cows that were really too young to even sell because they just want to make money. A lot of the younger generation is not interested in farming or ranching, they're not interested in it. It's too much work so we're going to have to come up with some incentives for people to do it. Here's the biggest part The education about beef, ground beef in particular is so poor. I mean if a single mom with two kids can go so much further with her money on ground beef making good nutritious food and meals for her kids than anything else in the supermarket

1:48:20 And then they bring the boxes in one go, because you know the shipping is where everybody gets killed and it's very expensive. And they bring it from their own processing plant. It's local. You got the same with... The guys down there in Georgia. These actually has an entire town that is a part of this so that system works but a lot of these cattlemen have really just become commodity cowboys. And they just know I gotta put $1,200 worth of Cheerios in this animal. Like this guy was saying I take it off live animals and I take it off and send to the processing plant who control the price and the Justice Department is now going after price fixing between these big processing plants so there's work being done and there was absolutely price fixing. The price of cattle was incredibly high that's

1:49:12 That's why these guys have been making out. They've been selling cows that were really too young to even sell because they just want to make money. A lot of the younger generation is not interested in farming or ranching, they're not interested in it. It's too much work so we're going to have to come up with some incentives for people to do it. Here's the biggest part The education about beef, ground beef in particular is so poor. I mean if a single mom with two kids can go so much further with her money on ground beef making good nutritious food and meals for her kids than anything else in the supermarket

1:50:03 all of this colored nonsense, sugary crap which is actually killing her kids. That education part and you know it's not like the supermarkets are going to help you that is the big missing piece which I'd kind of hope Maha and RFK Jr would do a lot better at...I don't see it because you can make meatloaf, you can make hamburgers You could make meatballs! There's so much that you can do with just ground beef Makes it with a little pasta. Yeah, this unfortunately is an affordability midterm move that is being done here I agree with the cowboy This is going to be much less quality beef than American beef certainly Texas beef But its just an education problem

1:50:50 People just don't really know what's going on. But if you go to beef calm, I think I think slim got beef calm. Hold on let me check. I don't know how this guy is amazing Well and I've used K&O we used to be KNC and And I think he still type in KNC and it takes you to the their website but there was also I met a guy who? I was buying beef from him off of, cause he's at the farmers market. His name is Ray and he sends me Bible verses every morning which is great guy 6 30 AM boom new Bible verse everyday He's like you want to put you on the list? I'm like yes Put me on those guys too Yeah I love those guys It's great You know you get a little bit...you get something to think about every morning before you get up and run around but they have there's a Wagyu herd out in Bastrop And man these are some of the best steaks I've ever had

1:51:39 It was like 40 bucks a steak, you know for a Wagyu which you're not going to get anywhere else like that and you get to cook it the way you want. So go to beefmaps.com I think the beef.com deal fell through Go to beef maps dot com find your rancher taste the difference go there yourself drive Drive to your rancher say howdy show me and look at the cow are you gonna eat? That was so cool when I took Tina to K&C cattle You know, we went with Cole in the truck out of the pasture and he like honks his horn. And the cow's like, I'll come running over because they think they're getting fed. And Tina is like, oh, this so cute that Oh, yeah, gonna eat him? Yes! you're going to eat him or her

1:52:21 It's going to be good. You're gonna love it! Support these guys, your price will be good and these guys will... We got Steiner Ranch which is here in... Yeah I know the Steiners. Oh you do? Shotguns with Shane Steiner So they have a ranch down on I want to say it's 16 Route 16 and if you go online And we order our ground beef from them. We love their ground beef and they're much more local than Cole, and our brisket from them. And we got a hump the other day... Have you ever had hump? Oh no! That's the hump on the back right at the top of it? Yeah that's the hump. It was just a roast. Yeah we ordered a hump

1:53:07 And the guy comes up the same day with his Yeti cooler. Hey, Mr and Mrs Curry I'll put it in the freezer for you He'll take cash he'll take a check Wow It's amazing The first time i got it delivered They...The guy shows up and I'm getting my order and he goes hey I got some more on the back if you want to check it out Let's check it out You know? It's like here is..you want more New York strip Here's the deal He will give me a deal of this He's like you've got cash? I've got cash I think i bought that, I bought chorizo. I bought another hundred dollars worth of stuff." I'm like sure let's go! I mean it lasts forever we buy a couple hundred dollars worth of steaks

1:53:44 and I think $100 worth of ground beef for the whole month or maybe five weeks. And we have people over for dinner, we basically eat beef or almost carnivore. I have a potato, Tina might have... We might have a salad but that's- we basically eat beef every single day and I'm feeling good, we're healthy. You're still tall? We've had friends over And if you go to the grocery store, if you got a HEB. You can't get away for under $100 for anything! It's ridiculous and we bought one of those big roasts at Costco that you then slice your own steaks out of it man and that's the way to go too If you're gonna be a steak eater Go buy one of these big roasts Get them from a local guy if you can but even Costco I think we paid two hundred dollars for it and I got 18 steaks out of it

1:54:39 Yeah, that's... That makes the math maths. The affordability crisis is also part of just what we're doing. The cowboy is right! $9 latte? Well yeah, okay well there you go it depends on what you want to spend your money on Here's the Agriculture Secretary Rawlins This morning President Trump announced a new plan to import 300 thousand tons of ground beef into the US with lower tariffs It's a decision that he and Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says will help lower prices. But the Iowa Cattlemen Association says it is going to hurt more than it will help. KCCI's Abigail Curtin spoke with both of them to learn what's at stake for purchasers and producers. Ground beef, its protein staple in millions of American households but since January 2025 the price has jumped 24 percent

1:55:32 President Trump is hoping to change this. Friday morning he announced he'd allow 300,000 metric tons of ground beef to be imported with lower tariffs over the next 90 days in a visit to the Iowa State Fair US Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says this will take some of the burden off of consumers wallets we can get a 25% decrease for families usually lower income families rely on ground beef then he wanted to make that move for the American consumer. Yes, exactly by the way thank you Troll Room yes I know Pastor Jimmy says no potato we had dinner at Pastor Jim Internet's house last night and he made some awesome steaks and then

1:56:16 Annette made gosh what she made potato for me and had a croissant Gingerbread cookies Why does he say no potato that's in his carnivore? He's okay. Oh, he just has no potatoes No carbs no car but hey we talked about this on We Get To Do This the hit new podcast from Adam Curry and Pastor Jimmy WG TDT calm go check it out everybody if you want your Jesus If you want to get your Jesus on with us, check it out. Have you ever listened to the show? I have not listened to that one! I will give it a listen today. All right there will be a test. Are you coming on again soon brother? I love it when you're on the show

1:56:53 I think this next week, i'll be in New Orleans and Lafayette playing with my band. I got back into playing music because now my kids are old enough to not need me around at all Wait a minute what about Alex? Doesn't Alex need you around? Oh he needs me around but it's sort of... It's a weekend thing but the kids were like yeah you know You don't need the kid The kids were like we're fine We're good just fix this when we break something What is the name of the band Are they on Spotify You know, we don't have anything on Spotify yet. We've been to... We have a lot of live recordings out the name of the band is Ross Mundi R-A-S M-U-N-D-I and were like a reggae hip hop funk band but when I say hip hop it's like old school hip hop but its conscious you know where pro humanity

1:57:42 and pro-humanity. What kind of band is this? I know, we're not pro system that's for sure but you know we got a South by gig this last year we got into the reggae festival which by voting in and just good things keep happening to us and i wouldn't say it's in terms of talent level it's not the highest talent level but everybody gives it their go And we really do put on a good show. We'll play for two or three hours and just get people moving, and that's where it's at to me. Do you have merch? You know we haven't even gotten into merch yet! We're literally... things keep... we barely even have our album recorded. Are you paying the venue to play? No they're paying us. Yeah we're not doing that but

1:58:32 New Orleans for a couple days playing some, it's like a South by Southwest for New Orleans. Oh wow! That type of event and then we're coming back and gonna hit... We're in the midst of there's a rave gonna go on in Lafayette And were going to be in the middle, were sandwiched between all the DJs So where are you playing? On Thursday you said? At Thursday we're gonna be at a hotel ballroom I don't You know what ill tweet out so people can see it on X but uh The place were playing in Lafayette is called the Boom Boom Room, the Freetown Boom Boom Room. RasmundieMusic.com I believe is the website That'll get you to a lot of things like we're very... You know We don't have Like no one's super concerned about going- We do the online stuff, we make the videos, we put stuff out but We're mainly just word of mouth People show up to our gigs because they've heard us before or

1:59:30 You know, it just happens. It's all happening because we have the intention to go out and play good music So that's where it said the boom-boom room this Thursday is that well? That's Saturday Saturday the 29th Yeah, the free town boom-boom room and the other stuff I'd have to dig through my phone I have it on there but will be in New Orleans Thursday and Friday and then Saturday in Lafayette which is that's the heart of Cajun country. Yeah, you're a if you're a Cajun person out there. Okay, so I'll have to find... A good replacement for Thursday Sunday we're going to Rotterdam Oh nice! To finally visit my granddaughter who is now almost five weeks old Next Sunday or this coming Sunday Jason Calacanis will be guest hosting with me

2:00:22 Okay, you know J. Cowell Jason Cali I saw he was boasting about the new cancer mRNA vaccine and how it's a great thing for humanity outstanding product Yeah He was he was definitely promoting that I'm like who is Jay cow is his name Jake hours just Jason at Jason at Jason yeah, I've known yeah, I've known Jason since the 90s in in New York was called Silicon Alley. John knew him very well, we used to make fun of him all the time. He got rid of that list by the way and now he does this podcast which I think is...I'm sure it's on an RSS feed but it's a big YouTube deal with...He's got all these Silicon Valley dudes on

2:01:06 including David Sachs, who was the crypto slash AI czar for President Trump for a couple months there. And it's very... I love watching it and but Jason Calacanis he's a nice guy he's pretty sure he has a knighthood for the show but he probably never claimed it He always supported this show, he always been very encouraging and I said hey man you should come on to the show Well, I can't do Thursdays because that's when they record their own podcast. But he'd come on Sunday so that should be fun and I have not Spoken he's in Texas now, too. He's out by you I think he's he's out driftwood area on the drift wood area Okay, so I think so So I'll find somebody for Thursday well, I do love a good list Yes You would let me I got a John C JCD story real quick one of my favorite moments was I was doing this thing called the tyrannical lisp which was The who you might have some of it. Let me home. It's like a tyrannical

2:02:07 Hold on, tyrannical. I misspelled it. Tyrannical lisp. 1A? Tyrannical... TYR. Here we go again! This is Paris' first zero-carbon neighborhood in Iloufutil or Fertile Island four buildings surround a central garden within this small locality you can live work shop or play sports But you've had a lot of these man, this is amazing. I did a lot of them yeah because it was tyranny will come to your door in a lisp here It is we are entering the era of the megalopolis No, not a dinosaur around the world emerging and a classic one

2:02:56 IKEA is experimenting with insect meatballs to make people think about how much meat they eat and encourage the people to try alternative proteins. The new mealworm meatballs are developed by Space Ken. Oh man, classic! Classic. John will put it but he's like I really liked that tyrannical lisp. I'm like awesome. He did. That was made my heart warm that you know you could get a reaction out of JCD Alright my brother, I'm gonna let you go. I'm going to do a bit more here and housekeeping Yeah well we have near the order of the ant which i will make sure you are a member of the order of The Ant is this fantastic new place all that yeah looks like it Oh, I saw the rendering of the pin yes It's gonna be beautiful good great idea definitely a great idea for that so yeah hope everybody

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2:20:13 Last Thursday's show with Sir Ducifer was spectacular. Excellent media deconstruction, especially when viewed through the lens of the midterm elections It also made me smile that even The Seed Man's own people do humorous impressions of him and he is good at it Adam, thank you for keeping the show going as well as everybody who helps make no agenda happen. For producers who want amazing fresh roasted coffee visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com use code ITM20 for 20% off your order Thank you for your courage stay caffeinated says Eli the Coffee Guy and he does say he would like to hear I Got Ants Well let's do that for ya I have no problem because it is a classic after all it is today is Order of The Ant Day I got ants.

2:21:07 I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion, uh... I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to powder like a fine grind black pepper- We were having dinner and yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal And I ate it These things are peppery. Like that ants I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot. And then you see when you find all the ones that are roaming around... I'm going to back them off by doing the burning trick. You torch them and leave them there The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants! I got ants

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2:23:04 She had to fill a form out, get it back. Two QR codes paid my duties be so much easier to send cash that was it's a blanket but it was like I think she made this herself? It must be! There is an ITM no agenda on the loom which is just beautiful product and then a blanket she actually sent us a blanket Which, where'd this come from? This blanket. This is Maison Emmanuel Oh it's a classy blanket. Therapeutic life-sharing community for adults So its for good cause in need of special care Thank you very much And she sent us mela moose and just all kinds of beautiful stuff thank you Thank you very much I was supposed to do that on the last show but...I forgot Also I want to thank Nicholas Ficklin He is

2:23:55 the producer of Sklazin Hot Sauce, S-C-L-A-Z-I-N, Sklazin Hot Sauce. And a very long note he says you've been on my heart since the Instagram post notification of John's passing as hard as the news hit me someone who never had the pleasure of meeting him I can only imagine how much more y'all have been impacted by the loss and my prayers continue to be with you and so he is the producer of Sklazin Hot Sauce and he made a special special batch on 8-8 in his honor while having his own little memorial listening to old shows. He sent a package which we received, thank you very much both the Texas and to the California PO boxes and he hopes it's enough for everyone to enjoy it's pretty hot so they don't take us awhile but check out Sklazen dot com I know if he's got them on the website or not but

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2:32:18 We got your meetups, we sure do. I hope that i have all of you know actually I forgot to play one thing as we end our donations and I apologize because he sent it to me twice...I just want to wind out our donations with Sir Felix, who we had not heard from since the COVID days and he's gotten a little older his voice is a little deeper and he is obviously son to the drunken Mr. Minstrel from Australia, Sir Chris Wilson take it away Felix

2:32:55 My name is Sir Felix Wilson the early night and my dad is a douchebag. Some things stay the same like my dad being in douche bag, but other things change like my voice and the host of no agenda Not that long ago. My voice used to sound like this daddy You're still a douche bag though sadly that sweet childhood innocence has gone But I'm still here to call out my dad as a douchebag And while our beloved John C. Dvorak is no longer with us, the best podcast in the universe is here to call out my dad as a douchebag. Without the Gitmo Nation community and the best podcast in the universe I would have grown up retarded like all of my friends with swollen amygdalas

2:33:31 Shout out Fitz. Instead I've grown up a free-thinking human resource, being able to recognise retard when i see it and importantly recognise when im being retarded myself and so I keep my amygdala in check Now more than ever Gitmo Nation needs your time your talent and your treasure For the sake of all our human resources the children of Gitmo Nation like me who have grown up with no agenda for most or all our lives go to noagendadonations.com and donate now We must secure the existence of our podcast and the future of Gitmo Nation children There you go. Think of the children, please! And thank you to the group in Rebo Nevada for your No Agenda Meetup Report. ITM this is Dame Rita This is the best meet up ever really connection is protection and I wanted to put out a word to Mimi and the Dvorak family Adam Tina

2:34:24 Love and light. In the morning, this is Cyril from Reno Connection is protection We love you guys Thanks for all you do This was so inspiring Thank You Adam and RIP John And you just make the world a better place than you make us and our household's a happier place. Thank you, and these people have been great! In the morning. In the morning this is Kevin at their Reno meetup Last time I donated to this show John actually misgendered me which was the first time I had been misgendered since i was in middle school and had long hair like Kurt Cobain Sending a lot of love to the Dvorak family and uh Love & Light

2:35:00 In the morning, came to the meetup. Adam praying for you Tina and the Dvorak family take care of them. In the morning this is Raul from Sparks Nevada I got to meet Dame Rita and these wonderful people thank You John for everything you did you were an amazing man And we severely miss you Adam Tina Mimi Buzzkill jr.. The entire family You guys are in our hearts and prayers and our condolences Thank you for everything. You've given us for all these years We love you guys Connection is protection coming from JJ's pipe code the no agenda crew was amazing now there it is we got a server in there I love that thank you so much. I hope I got all the meetup reports Getting getting crawling back out of my email which has been

2:35:50 quite busy as you can imagine. Hey there's three meetups taking place today the first one is the Indy NA August JCD Greek Irish wake at 3 o'clock so that is underway a Blind Al Brewery in Indianapolis I'm sure we'll get a beautiful report from Annette That is Damery Ensor, Mark of the Greenwood who always hosts that. The ants and the antipodes... This is Sir Chris Wilk, Chris the drunk minstrel meet up which probably happened yesterday I think in Australia, is it Monday already? In Marigville New South Wales the gasoline pony. So hoping to get a meetup report from him, I'm sure we will and the Central Arkansas JCD Memorial kicks off at six o'clock dude named Jared now in Arkansas this organizing that if you want to go then all you have to do is go to knowagenandmeetups.com to find out all the details about that coming up in August We have Maastricht on the 28th That's in Limburg in The Netherlands

2:36:49 Nanaimo, British Columbia on the 29th. Albuquerque New Mexico on the 29th Rhode Island on the 29th and Zurich Switzerland also on the 29th looking forward to meet up from all of you! On the 30th Chester Springs Pennsylvania Raleigh North Carolina and looking at September on the 6 Medford Lakes New Jersey Catawaba River North Carolina 12 Boise Idaho 15 Scottsdale Arizona 17 Charlotte NC Petaluma, California. The 19th Wilmington, California we have meetups through October including the October 17th Fredericksburg Texas Meetup I hope y'all will join us for that and of course we have the big 19th anniversary coming up was it 26 or 28th of October so we will be celebrating bittersweet of course without JCD but he's looking down or looking up

2:37:39 I hope it's looking down and i'm sure he was smiling. Thank you all very much for your meetups, we're organizing them before sending in Meetup reports go to a NOAJ in the Meetup particularly now this is a great time you will meet people that you never would have met otherwise and you will connect with them immediately as you know connection is protection these people will be your first responders in any emergency Go to noagenandmeetups.com easy to search easy to find one near you if find one near you. You know what to do! Start one yourself, easy and always a party. All right, everybody that's it for episode 1897. I'll be back on Thursday Not quite sure who will be joining me But we'll find someone appropriate and fun if you can't wait until then check out We get to do this on Wednesday. I deal with Pastor Jimmy if you are Decloking coming back to your faith of your Christ curious check us out WG TDT calm and of course

2:38:54 I'm looking forward to a great NO Agenda. Remember us at noagendadonations.com If you're still on that modern podcast app or on noagendastream.com, stay tuned for Grimerica776 living from the soul! Of course JCD loved the Grimerica show he's been on it i think least two times maybe more so give those guys a listen And take care of yourself, Gitmo Nation. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and leaving you with one more Just Baker end-of-show mix We will see you on Thursday Till then Adios Mofos! Ahoy hoy! ...and such