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00:00 This is like a suicide cult. Has anyone seen a stork? Not me, but we are broadcasting live from the Southern District of Amsterdam in The Netherlands. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all wondering who would name a kid Graham... ...I am John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! What kids name is Graham?

00:36 Graham Platner. You're not over here so you don't get to see this 24-7 coverage. You said, you said Graham not Graham. You said Graham his name is Graham Not Graham. Like a gram? It's pronounced Graham! No, it's Graham! Graham... Graham! Graham yes if you had said Graham it would have been obvious but Graham no it's not Graham okay you can say what you want okay well so yes I am aware of the new cycle I'm aware of it but that's not what I'm stuck with here You're stuck there is what you're stuck with. I'm stuck here, but i'm stuck here with... Well like I said it's coming Tuesday so get ready The day when we are back? The day we come back yes! You never said it was coming Tuesday did ya? Yeah yeah I did Oh because you know I am coming back Monday Well your gonna miss the baby then No kidding my daughters... Just stay a couple extra days We've already been here by Monday will have been here for two weeks

01:39 We're running out of everything. Time flies! And, and of course now you know everyone here is like oh Oh you from America? Stupid Trump tried to rig the game with the red card ha ha we showed you didn't ya Yeah all day long it's amazing I think that it was corrupted to begin with and the reason they did that, it had nothing to do with Trump. It was to make him look like he did something other than just make a call. But they had to put that player back in because these games are as you and I know rigged! These games are rigged! And they knew if they left that player out

02:28 the striker that they red carded, then they have to listen to the whining Americans. Yeah. You guys screwed us! We would've won the championship. Someone's hearing a buzz... I thought i heard it too hold on now I'm hearing it too somebody's hearing a buzz yeah there we go well I can move some wires around No no its not you, Its me That's what she said. Play in the next game at least and there's game. I said boy, that's a big you know if it happened to Another player it would have been unfair but when they take your best play or just about they have some great players But and they say you can't play That's very unfair. That's you know it's one thing to penalize somebody for the game but

03:27 How do you penalize him for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair. You can't do that so Yes, I asked for a review oh Review I spoke to a man who said I found the source of this whole Trump called and made him change it That was The New York Times with four sources unnamed anonymous sources familiar with the phone call highly respected and by the way whose level of respect has gone up tenfold And he was good before this started, but you know he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one that got them to do it It was not Biden See what people don't understand and doesn't even like I don't have to try and explain it here commies

04:11 What people don't understand is Trump's not talking about fare. He's talking about the excitement of the game, he's thinking of television that's what he's thinking of! He's like hey we got to have the star players in there you can't take the star player it was great when they threw him out and they played with 10 guys for the rest of the game that's great television You can't have that guy not show up in the next game even though it's the rule That's what it was about. People don't understand him we are the Trump whisperers We understand our president were some of the last and the very few I believe Maybe I'm not kidding people Are this roll their eyes at me? They rolled her eyes, and yeah man The guy tried to cheat on him care what you say it's useless all right so

05:02 If it's such a big news cycle that you had to start out the beginning of the show off with you might do you have any Graham Platner clips that you want to share I have a yeah, I do have a classic that. I thought if anyone would appreciate me you all right Because it's from the pivot. These are your buddies. Kara and Professor Scott, let me guess because I've seen some of these come through on the timeline where Elizabeth Warren is saying that's my guy so probably... loading these things up. I don't really have a lot of Platner clips, i just thought it would be worthwhile to play this one because its one of the most extreme examples of very biased

05:51 and almost pathetic attitude about things. I personally, I'm going to just very quickly say I think voters don't care about this. I don't and I thought his wife handled it well. Others...I had an argument with Amanda this weekend she doesn't like the Nazi tattoo she doesn't like this. Really? I feel as if...Amanda doesn't like the Nazi tattoo who does?! If they if the husband and wife are working it out. It reminded me a little when Hillary Clinton did, should I stand by my man when he had those Jennifer Flowers things? Reminds me of that. Turned out to be pretty good president. I don't get bothered by it as much none of

06:27 I think he's in he's as Amanda Littman correctly said He is someone who had a drinking problem was a marine probably got that tattoo has some mental health challenges, which she's trying to overcome Marriage problems which his wife is insisting. They're going to counselors and overcoming with that list is your typical Democrat? It's perfect I mean, let's just hear that list again. Nazi tattoo, he's got drinking problems, relationship problems... Drinking problems as a Marine probably got that tattoo has some mental health challenges which he is trying to overcome marriage problem Mental challenges which she is trying to overcome Yeah you have to stop the clip and let me explain something that I think it's important Oh please Which is that you're right this is The Democrats laundry list of

07:13 what they think, of what they think the working class is. Yes drinking problem... They have no connection she has no and the professor has no connection with this you know these Democrats and their working-class which they haven't represented for I don't know since we've been doing the show Yeah, definitely since we've been doing this. They're so dissociated from the working class that their imaginary working-class person is what she's describing. Yes! An oyster farmer... Which is in the farthest thing from the truth there is. An oyster farmer with a drinking problem and Nazi tattoo mental health issues which he's working on and relationship issues yes that's your voter. A bit of that turned out to be pretty good president I don't get bothered by it as much none of it

08:06 But I think he's, as Amanda Littman correctly said, he is someone who had a drinking problem was a Marine probably got that tattoo has some mental health challenges which she's trying to overcome marriage problems which his wife is insisting they're going to counselors and overcoming. Every election is a choice not a marriage proposal. We're not hiring a priest We're hiring a senator. Do you want to make sure that women's rights aren't continue to be rolled back? You want more responsible economic policy, but we're going to talk about fucking tattoos and sexting. Oh, uh, you mean like he did about Pete's Hexeth? Okay

08:44 I mean, the obsession with personal purity has become a luxury belief. And folks if your house is on fire you don't ask whether the firefighter has problematic DM's Are we going to continue to have one strike and you're out? I'm a Jew! I don't love a Tottenkamp tattoo Okay... If he gets drunk one night I love, hold on. Tottenkampf? If you're a real Jew pronounce it right! Tot-en-Kopff. Okay Tottenkampf get with this Scott. Continue to have one strike and you're out...I'm a Jew i don't love a tottenkompf tattoo okay if he gets drunk one night and gets a stupid fucking tattoo the fact that he's trying to protect our liberties the next day might be blown up by an IED He gets a hall pass

09:30 You're right, it's Tottenkopf. Tottenkompf! Tottenkopf! It means struggle. Kopff! It's head. Tottenkopf! Yeah, it's a head. Kopf! Kopf! We all know Kopf! Not kompft! He's my kompft anyway... That's great but now he resigned he withdrew he's out yeah he did but one more thing about what Scott said he says are we going to continue to have women's rights rolled back What is he talking about? I don't know. You've seen these, if you go to...I don't do this that much but if you go to TikTok or Insta when these places have the reels all of these things and there'll be men on the street stuff where someone says so what do you want to see about somebody being interviewed at some protest then they say I'm I don't want to see women's rights rolled back and then the interviewer will say

10:27 Which women's rights are you talking about? And then they freeze. There is a long blank stare, and I don't know... They say, I'm not participating in this. They walk! Well of course then we have the actual candidates for the Democrat Party This thing has been circling around little mini-mini cut of some of these DSA, Democrats Socialists Of America. And it's exactly what we talked about on the last show this is exactly what they're doing if they get elected and these were not the candidates in the primary not the candidates that

09:30 You're right, it's Tottenkopf. Tottenkompf! Tottenkopf! It means struggle. Kopff! It's head. Tottenkopf! Yeah, it's a head. Kopf! Kopf! We all know Kopf! Not kompft! He's my kompft anyway... That's great but now he resigned he withdrew he's out yeah he did but one more thing about what Scott said he says are we going to continue to have women's rights rolled back What is he talking about? I don't know. You've seen these, if you go to...I don't do this that much but if you go to TikTok or Insta when these places have the reels all of these things and there'll be men on the street stuff where someone says so what do you want to see about somebody being interviewed at some protest then they say I'm I don't want to see women's rights rolled back and then the interviewer will say

10:27 Which women's rights are you talking about? And then they freeze. There is a long blank stare, and I don't know... They say, I'm not participating in this. They walk! Well of course then we have the actual candidates for the Democrat Party This thing has been circling around little mini-mini cut of some of these DSA, Democrats Socialists Of America. And it's exactly what we talked about on the last show this is exactly what they're doing if they get elected and these were not the candidates in the primary not the candidates that

11:06 Rokhana. What's his name? Rokahana. Don't we just call him Rokhana, isn't that his name now? That is Rokhanna. Rokhana. The Rokhana. Rokhana he... this is not the people he endorsed but this is the people who THE PEOPLE supposedly selected! And, you know we have a unique responsibility to act from the heart of empire. The belly of the beast. But the most important thing that we can do is take that empire down from within Our role ultimately is to facilitate our own empire's failure in ways that we can Ultimately to overthrow our own empire Imperialism... US imperialism is not something that can be reformed away It has to be

11:45 overthrown through revolutionary struggle. And to build a mass movement that can use the leverage of workers to hit the kill switch on American imperialism here within the American empire Yes, from within! The kill switch in the American Empire Yeah, these people are very pretentious. But did you notice how gender fluid they are? Oh yeah, so certainly I couldn't tell who was what there it was just non-binary to an extreme Well and this... So just looking at all these different factions I caught a report on CNN And it was about the Patriot Front on July 4th

12:29 who marched on the mall, who took the metro which is the subway to the mall and you know We've looked at these guys and we're like, he's got to be feds. This has got to be some kind of psyop going on but then I'm thinking hold on a second does this mean that Kash Patel's FBI or Tulsi Gabbard or Bill Pulte's intelligence operations are still running these guys? And it's been polarizing to me but the thing that really caught my eye is as iIm listening to the opening of this report

13:08 The whole thing is completely framing something that is observably not true. This weekend in the midst of the country's 250th birthday festivities, a stark and disturbing display emerged from our nation's capital. Stark and disturbing display! On Saturday when mass members of the white supremacist group The Patriot Front marched through Washington DC carrying confederate flags... Okay so I stopped here because carrying Confederate flags, I'm literally looking at the video she's showing and there is no Confederate flag. There are stars and stripes 50 stars 13 stripes about 20% are what i'd call the colonial flag with the thirteen star in a circle with a picture of George Washington in the circle not a single

14:05 Confederate flag. Maybe they think that's a confederate flag, that how things have... That's how deteriorated the media has become? Well possibly but the first thing that she says here is the white supremacist group And you know, and so of course you connect white supremacy White supremacist groups to Patriots because they're called the patriot front So that by itself good. It's a psyop whether it's from them or who knows what it is But I'm like I gotta look at these guys What is going on with this group? So they have a web glad you did this because I thought the whole thing was a fake well, so the website patriot dot us

14:47 They have an about page, they've got an action page. They've got a manifesto page... Now this I find troubling like why don't you just say here's our mission but no they say manifesto it was very long And there's no white supremacy language in there per se. They hate government, they feel all politicians have sold out the military-industrial complex, they hate globalism, they want to go back to what America was They don't like, they want the borders closed. They don't want immigrants coming in from Africa. They don't talk about black people now I don't see any black faces in this Patriot Front because they have masks on it makes a little harder and some of them are intimidating because they've got the khakis and you know And they have kind of these uniforms on but no really look like neo-nazis or KKK

15:43 And then you look at their action, and you know there's spokes guy he talks without a mask and his name is known. He's quite eloquent in speaking. Then they go life liberty victory okay? Then you look at their action page and they're doing food drives feeding homeless people building houses so I don't what it to me At least one of our no agenda producers has to be in this group There's no way that if really what is portrayed on this website, that we don't have at least one of them listening to the show. This is kind of my test. What if the whole thing just a front for nothing? Well this is...this is my test. If we don't have a single producer Oh! That's a good point We have a million listeners and producers Some somebody's been to the meeting Did we have a population as such

16:36 That is such, yes you're absolutely correct. Unless there's somebody in there that's connected to the show... It's a fake. It's a phony, it's a phony so yeah just a bunch of photos I pulled up few more clips from this That's a good point But it was really bothering me because you know I look at these guys like but I know guys like this You know they go to my church They help out they want to they love their country They love their flag They love their family I don't think they're racist You know, they've never shown any racial tendencies. So the PSYOP is certainly working on CNN just a couple clips because there's some interesting language that they use here so whether it's phony or

17:20 I mean, it certainly doesn't seem like the right... something Trump would want is connecting white supremacy to patriot and patriotism. Past members of the white supremacist group The Patriot Front marched through Washington DC carrying Confederate flags and shouting slogans like quote reclaim America Oh no! One photographer captured this stunning now viral photo of a young black woman Sitting on a metro car while the masked men surround her now this language is beautiful Because these guys are on the Metro. They're all taking the Metro that whole cars filled with him They're not surrounding her and the picture doesn't even show her being surrounded they're not looking at her She has a great nobody cares about her she has a great expression on you under face But so then they bring in this this dude

18:13 who was also a witness, who was also on the train. And this is where things got funny... How did they behave? On the train and what sort of sense did you get from them on the car? They were surprisingly very civil and very organized. They were just chatting among themselves like any other person. people who were sitting or traveling using the metro. I, you know just from what i could hear many of them didn't even know each other. I could hear them introducing themselves to one another with their full names and asking where they're from and how they're doing so... Well that doesn't sound very scary! Come on we gotta step this up a little bit because weren't you afraid? Weren't you scary? Wait

18:51 How did this picture get taken of you? And you ended up in some photographs, taken by a Getty Images photographer. A Getty Images photographer happens to be on the train! It's amazing What did it say to you that there was a photographer there That's when it alarmed me This is something But the photographer also gave me some comfort knowing that somebody was there with a camera just incase something happens because I was realizing if anything happened I won't be able to identify any of them Because they're all dressed the same So it made me realize to start paying attention. What are they wearing? What's on their hats, what's on their shirts just to give me an educated idea who they were and I was texting some friends you know this is happening just want you to be aware that i'm in the middle of a metro by myself so if anything happens you know you weren't with the police

19:36 black girl. What are you talking about? You weren't by yourself." I'm in the middle of a metro by myself, so if anything happens you know what's happening. Do you have any thought as your on the train who they might be like what's...you know I know said you didn't know who they were but what were you speculating when you see buncha white guys with masks and hats. I need to remember this and try to document of what's happening. I'm not comparing myself clearly to real American heroes like Rosa Parks and folks who sat in at diners in the 50s and 60s, but I knew that this was a moment that I have to be present." This was a moment! This is a sign up of epic proportions. I just want to know who

20:30 and why, and what's behind it. That's all I want to know. Again if we don't have a single person in our audience who has at least been to a meeting then this is fake! And it's fake from the left there's just no two ways about it Yeah, fake from the left. This could be a Soros thing or Southern Poverty Law Center thing... The thing that is bothersome is the mask! Why? Why the masks? There's no reason for them to do that. It's always mask-oriented with the Palestinian scarf across their face. That's the tell right there! Oh you wear the mask and there ya go!

21:14 I don't know about this. The whole thing just kind of bothered me, so that wanted to get that out and please if you've been to a meeting let us know and if nobody else... There's no one who has been to a meeting. Maybe Aaroner over at Noahage in the Social he might be the kinda guy but they're not even that anti-Jew! At least not that I can tell. Not in their manifesto which is another thing If you and I were going to do a group... Yes, absolutely. You nailed it by the way that's a great observation Yeah we wouldn't... You don't use manifesto No! We're not gonna do that ever Ever no its mission statement or what? You know EULA I mean anything EULA So ummm no But I think we all were considering them to be feds of some sort

22:11 And now I'm just not so sure. Now it seems to be from some other organization... They look cool though. And that's not to say the black girl wasn't afraid, she might have been afraid like what is this? What's going on but you know I seem pretty nonchalant if you ask me. But a Getty Images photographer happens to be there! Well yeah that's because somewhat misleading cuz anybody can be a Getty images. Yeah it's true. Once you sign up with them is basically you take a lot of photos... It's like paparazzi You take a lot of photos, but you've already done a contract deal with them. So if you have any photos that are net of national interest, you have to sell it to them as opposed to the competition. Yeah. Which is Corbis or whoever it is no big deal. That they I think that's exaggerated. Corbus? There's other groups?

23:02 Yeah, it's that group that Microsoft ran... uh, created. I can't remember their name. It was like Corbis or something stupid Was that part of their encyclopedia? What was their CD-ROM encyclopedia? Yeah, the... Encarta? Encarta. It was a good idea at the time! At the time when there was no internet and everything was on CD-ROM Yes, CDI, CD Interactive, CDI. Yeah baby back in the day I went nowhere Back in the day So just to wrap it up yeah I agree The only people who wear masks are Antifa The Palestinian protesters It's all crazy from left people

23:46 And the Southern Poverty Law Center has deemed them a white supremacist hate group. That right there tells you something. Yeah, anyway let's get to the top of the news with what is really happening. Tonight as the US launches a new attack on Iran – The second in 24 hours President Trump now declaring the ceasefire over I think it is over I don't want to deal with them anymore. They're scum, you know what scum is? There's something wrong with them they're cuckoo The new US strikes hitting Iran's coastal radar sites and anti-ship missile locations A larger attack than last night when 80 targets were hit

24:28 It comes in response to Iran firing on three cargo ships near the Strait of Hormuz. The big question—what comes next? Overnight, Iran launching missiles at U.S. bases in the Gulf Those missiles intercepted The Pentagon releasing video of more than 20 Navy warships patrolling waters near the Middle East. President Trump today sending mixed signals, first saying he would let peace talks continue then a few hours later saying this I'm not sure i want to make a deal with them we can play games but i'm not sure i want to make a deal let's just finish the job And tonight, the calm has been shattered in the oil market. Gas prices for Americans set to go up. The president asks are we about to see full blown war again? I don't think it's going to start again. I think it's gonna go very quickly. They hit- Hold on a second! Did you see this structure of the way they presented that? Explain It structured as though they were gonna see full blown war and then they cut to him saying now I don't think so

25:28 Yeah, okay and you're surprised by this. This is ABC No This is what we do on this show if you haven't noticed has been we point this out shattered in the oil markets Gas prices for Americans set to go up the president asked are we about to see full-blown war again? I don't think it's gonna start again. I think it's gonna go very quickly They hit a couple of ships And so we hit them much harder. When they hit, we hit. So I'd like to congratulate Rachel Scott live in Turkey tonight and Rachel amid this escalation with Iran right now and the surging oil prices already there are also questions... Surging oil price? Surging! Nothing... Surging! It went up to 74 or something. Surging! ...tonight about this new Air Force One that gift from Qatar and why it left a turkey tonight without the president

26:17 Yes, David. The president has been touting this new plane so it was surprising when that Qatari jet left without him and headed toward the UK. The president said it was to give troops stationed there an opportunity to view the plane but tonight it is raising new questions about whether security concerns played a factor. The president later departed Turkey on an older model of Air Force One Yeah, so before we move on I just got to play this clip because he did play it down like I know you know the plane had to go over there and We had do something else and the troops had to look at the new plane But this was that. This was the killer for me in one day all of their anti-aircraft Things are gone that doesn't mean they're not gonna get a plane at some point but all of its gun Everything's gone Their leaders are gone

27:04 They had leaders, they're gone. Then they had another set of leaders, they're gone Now they have another set of leaders, they may be gone Who knows? And you know what I may be gone too Because i'm their number one target It's out all over the place because they are scum That is how they act and that is how they've done it for 47 years No! I am number 1 on the kill list Iran they're lovely people. I'm number one, so I don't know I can't tell you that but I Don't really care because I'm doing my job and I'm doing it I hope better than anybody's ever done it because we have a country that's hot and Really really successful But I mentioned only because it's on the list I mean that came out there was another list came out yesterday And um, I'm number one on I like being number one on tick-tock better but I'm number one on the list for killing

27:55 Unfortunately, I have to say every single time that I've known a politician or heard a politician say yeah they're gonna you know they want to kill me. It has happened! Now i'll never forget Pim Fortuyn saying if something happens to me those guys did it and then he got killed Yeah, well let's hope that doesn't happen. No! He was cautious enough to send off this... the one jet and let that one get blowed up. Yeah really it's like you know a little switcheroo on the jet so we had dinner with uh We don't even know he was on other Air Force. He could have been an Air Force 2 for all of ya'know It didn't look like it I'll be the first because he came out for a gaggle

28:33 And it was not the old Air Force One that he typically travels on, because I could tell by the... They didn't have the screens in the side panel like they usually does. So it was not his typical Air Force One. Yeah well if you're going to the Middle East and your Trump- Yeah, switch it up! You're not gonna be flying around like hey here I am Fire me! Take a shot So we had dinner with Lex. I have a couple of them. Give you little update, we had a dinner with Lex and Fariba Oh okay His Iranian wife He told the story about them getting married It cracks me up every single time because they wanted to stay in the same hotel room together This is like 16 years ago And so in order to do that You have to be married by an Imam

29:28 And so he's a Muslim. He had to become a Muslim first, then he got like a stamp and he's got a passport and he's a Muslim anyway So, and I said you better not leave that. You better stay a Muslim because that's not a good idea. So she is back talking to her family the internet is open the lines are open everybody is back to business although back-to-business means her family is selling ground coffee there's this there's not a lot of commerce per se But the general feeling is that Trump is working with the Iranians together, and together they're going to get rid of the IRGC or at least they're going to try too. Which the Iranians feel is rather complicated because they have such deep connections inside the country everyone's on the take from those guys

30:20 So they feel that there's maybe too many of them, but that's who is popping stuff off. It's the IRGC it's not the people that... Yeah and they're dissociated. They are completely dissociated! Some rogue anybody can take a pot shot and say I'm gonna do it. Exactly There's no coordination at all No so they're hopeful and then they actually have more trust in Trump than I would have expected. They think he's working with him with the third level And you know, they're like why is Pav... so the what's his name Reza Pavli? The crown prince. He's in Holland right now! How weird is that? Well you should go try to track him down No I don't think so. I'm not gonna do that Let's listen to these clips from NPR and the BBC trying to summarize this Okay Start with NPR

31:18 I'm looking, I see Al Jazeera. Iran bombing NPR! Oh, I'm sorry i didn't see that one The US military says it's carrying out another round of strikes on Iran after Iran attacked ships in the Strait of Hormuz earlier this week and retaliated for U.S. strikes last night Earlier today President Trump said Iranian attacks signaled the end of this ceasefire as NPR's Franco Ordonia explains Trump not only warned that the US would likely hit Iran again, but he also threatened to bring back a naval blockade. I mean he is clearly frustrated after last night's series of strikes and he really went off on Iranian leaders calling them cuckoo and a bunch of liars. I don't want to deal with anybody they're scum you know what scum is? They're scum they're sick people. They are led by sick people

32:06 and they're vicious, violent people. Now the big question is whether calling off the ceasefire is actually a change in policy or simply a negotiating tactic but Trump did say during the press conference that this would not lead to full-scale fighting again and that anything that happened would be over quickly I like though you know we've talked about this before some time ago about the pronunciation of Iran yes We got a lecture from somebody who told us how to pronounce it correctly. But it's still being pronounced Iran. It's definitely Iran, we know for a fact that it is ear on Iran your ears on Iran

32:49 And PBS or NPR there has gotten it correctly. But you hear, it's almost like there is a code involved for people who mispronounce it. Didn't we establish that people who were read in pronounced it Iran and everyone else who doesn't pronounce it Iran is not read-in? That's what I recall. I think that was one of our interpretations. Possibly yeah Well, here's the BBC several Gulf nations have responded to Iranian. Holy crap that has over modulated again So you rain? He Iranian see now they're pronouncing it differently Now okay now I play it. I want to play it Yeah, let me start stop about the over modulation Okay, okay. I've had I don't know what it is about the BBC and

33:41 But there's something wrong with their waveform. Their loofs are not good! I'm telling you, there is something wrong with their waveform and when i play these clips, I don't get any of this over modulation but every time you play it through your system, it comes out I'm not sure what to do about it. I will do a spectral analysis after the show and figure it out, It could very well be that there's something going on in their processing that is hitting my processing in an odd way. I'm looking at the waveform...it doesn't look flat or anything This is very technical everybody, glad you're listening in! Several Gulf nations have responded to Iranian attacks

34:27 after the US launched new air strikes against Iran, including near the Strait of Hormuz. Explosions were reported in the Bahraini capital Manama while in Kuwait the military said its air defenses had intercepted missiles and drones. First of all this guy has a wheelbarrow for those balls man that's amazing that voice! Yeah it is unbelievable his character. That was crazy! President Trump has warned that attacks on Iran could get much worse Earlier Iranian state media reported explosions in several coastal areas Peter Bowes has more from Washington. There's Donald Trump is returning to Washington now He has been speaking on Air Force one where he said amongst other things We've just hit them very hard and I say we hit them 20-1, he added that every time they hit us We're going to hit them

35:18 20 as he put it and he also claimed that Iran had called a little while ago saying that they wanted to make A deal badly. He said I just don't know if they're worthy of making the deal our international editor Jeremy Bowen has this analysis of the latest developments what is driving all of this is The fact that the Iranian regime in Tehran have a heck of a weapon in being able to close the straight-off home is they can put a global economy in days in a chokehold. So that's where we're at, so I think what we're going to see as a lot of these ups and downs probably more escalations more oscillations some more talks sources very adjacent to the talks have said to me that

36:00 Neither side is trying to walk away from the talks, but equally it's taking quote a lot of heavy lifting to try and get them back To talking. I'm so sick of this they closed the street before Moose didn't close anything There's not a row of IRGC Paddle boats blocking the the straights this language has got to stop you know I want to play this CBS version of this of The Report The scum liars and cheats report because at the end there was something There's something odd and different the president said today that even though the ceasefire is over the nuclear talks between the two countries can continue But with each side trading airstrikes and insults. It's pretty difficult to understand the way forward this come

36:51 And so we don't like them, I don't like them. They're evil people and it's... President Trump unleashed on Iran for attacking three commercial tankers in the Strait of Hormuz this week. They are liars! They are cheats! They're sick people! Just last month Trump called Iran's leaders very rational people but tonight he has ordered more airstrikes along the Strait of Hormuz which follows a heavy bombing campaign Tuesday night when US forces hit about 80 targets inside Iran including its main naval base and dozens of small boats Iran says it responded by firing missiles and drones at 85 military targets inside Bahrain and Kuwait. The volleys the most significant since the US and Iran signed a memo of understanding about three weeks ago, but the president said Iran's actions have killed the deal. There is something wrong with them they're cuckoo

37:45 As far as I'm concerned, it's over. Oil prices spiked on that news part of the reason why by the end of today The president was trying to turn down the temperature I think anything that happens is going to be over very quickly. And we'll only make it safer, including for oil. Also at the NATO summit, the president met with Vladimir Zelensky and announced plans to let Ukraine start building Patriot missiles but he also broached a three-way meeting with Russia's Vladimir Putin. I don't know that he'd go to Moscow maybe would you go to Moscow? It's difficult there are lots of Ukrainian drones on earth Leaders here at the summit said their host, Turkish President Erdogan gifted them all personalized revolvers and a box of ammunition. The White House didn't confirm Trump's gift but the British Prime Minister said he had to leave his here because it would be illegal to bring it home That's the weird part! What's up with that? They gave him pistols with ammo what... To shoot yourself I thought that was very strange It's a strange gift I have not heard that. That was a good catch That is a strange gift

38:51 That is a strange gift. So they gave him gold-plated pistols with one bullet in the chamber And a hairpin trigger So I what I feel go is going on here Is good cop bad cop it seems so obvious? Because this is from his he did a lot of press or at least a lot of clips came out of his press in In Turkey at the NATO, NATO summit. Yeah some NATO clips This is where I think this is the one where he's basically good cop bad cop let those guys go be good cops I'm gonna be the bad cop. Do you have any questions? Is the ceasefire over? Is the cease fire done? Is the MOU dead? It's a very interesting question to me That's not an interesting question To me...I think it's over

39:44 I don't want to deal with them anymore. They're scum, you know what scum is? They're scum they're sick people They're led by sick people This is the full quote which I think was more interesting than what the news just cherry-picked And then they're vicious violent people And if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it. As far as I'm concerned it's over. Speak to our negotiators that want to negotiate their good people Steve Woodcuff, Jared Kushner But they have to come back to me. Far as I'm concerned is just a waste of time dealing with them They're liars We make a deal See that to me first of all They didn't put any of that in any of the news reports nothing about the nuclear nuclear bomb I don't know why

40:26 And then he says, well you know those guys they got to keep talking on Jared and Whitcoff and they can come back to me But I'm not gonna talk some that is like so textbook Good cop bad cop. If i make a deal with him we have a deal under goes out He talks... We make it do everyone's agreed no nuclear weapon We'll make a deal if they go outside don't hear the press They say we never even talked about it there's something wrong with them their cuckoo as far as I'm concerned It's over I don't care, they can talk. But i think they're wasting their time They are a bunch of lying guys My whole life that's all I do is deals That's how I became president I guess that's deal two right? But I made alot of money and had great success Tremendous success Everything I did was successful

41:22 And I deal with these guys and say this is from a different school. They're liars, they're cheats, they are sick people... They've hurt their people that killed 54 thousand people as of now that were protesting You know when people say how come they haven't taken over? The can take over because they are dead! They killed them nobody's gonna take over, they have no guns and the other side has machine guns and they killing him but press doesn't report it But they're bad people. They're bad people." Something tells me this was not unexpected for them, that this would happen and there's some game afoot here Actually that entire clip which was a good clip I'm thinking whether it is worthy of borderline That entire clip if the news media had played that in its entirety instead of these kind of cute clips of oh they are scum Yeah And then just leave it at that

42:21 Out of context. The public would be serviced so much better, or served so much better by them being more honest with their clipping. Their clipping is terrible! And what's the verdict? That the media sucks? No, you said borderline... You were contemplating a border line Oh, you want it don't ya? Well you can't like dangle it in front of me and then say well I'm thinking about it but... Okay give yourself a borderline. Wow! Hey man It was almost worthy of a borderline That's pathetic. Oh okay alright yes maybe You got your borderline I couldn't give any clip of the day No you haven't given me one of those in months That's not true Uh be careful

43:14 It's not true. Okay, okay No that's it but the point I was making was uh Why don't we get why doesn't the media give us that? And it's all out there and NPR could have done that BBC could have done That clip was what how long was that clip was a total time Total time is let me see 155 well under two minutes of yeah of clippage Yeah Yeah, clipage. Clipage as we call it. Well under the what we consider the two minute limit. The two minutes limit! Nothing can go past... If it's passed 2 minutes its gotta be really good. Well no if it's passed 2 minutes you or I but one of the two of us complain. Now I know you have analysis- This clip is too long! I know you have analysis ummm....I just have two more clips to play because

44:09 Stunningly, stunningly! Look who comes out of nowhere and appears on Jake Tapper's show. What woman? What analyst do you think would just pop out all of a sudden? Who? Vicki Newland Oh my God. This morning President Trump said that as far as he's concerned the ceasefire is over and now we see these new strikes so is this an end to the ceasefire or is it possible that this is just a negotiating tactic in the ceasefire is still officially on?

44:46 Jake, it's good to be with you. I don't think that the United States and President Trump ever had a true agreement with Iran What Iran thinks it got out of this ceasefire was the ability to control the Straits of Hormuz To exact tolls and other tribute from ships going through it And when we tried to pass ships on the Omani side or without paying The Iranians attacked. So we never really had a deal and it's not a surprise that it is breaking down, I think the question is... what the president is willing to do to enforce it and keep the straits open, and set this free navigation standard for the world. Before these strikes started Trump said he did not think an end to the ceasefire would mean a return to full-scale war Is it going to be that simple? It seems like we've been involved in a full scale war for quite some time even during this so called cease fire

45:41 And by the way, a war that we are losing Jake. As I said the president has never gotten us back to the status quo ante which was a straight of Hormuz that was open to navigation without fees or tolls and that Iran did not control You know, the Iran has been testing this all the way through and frankly this war that we started has left us in a far worse position than we were in before. I can only think she's mad that she wasn't involved in this war! She likes it, this is what she does, she sparks wars, she hands out donuts... Let's get going boys! And then in this yet another piece of audio you didn't hear much of.

46:23 He's been apparently unable to end the Iran war and after claiming that the US was doing so well, he said this. Take a listen. They're dealing with very fine people. What? Come on! That's like a shoe-in for the M5M I couldn't understand it. He says we're dealing with very fine people That's a beauty. I missed it, oh i couldn't hear it that's a beauty because of the stupid sound effect they throw in They're dealing with very fine people Oh god come on man! Yeah that would have been you right if you and I were running CNN we'd be throwing out the very fine people on both sides clip immediately Absolutely What a misser They're dealing with Steve Woodcuff but they're dealing with Jared Kushner and JD Vance And they're dealing with Marco and Scott They deal with great people

47:15 But I don't know, they're a little loco. They're a little crazy." I don't know if i would say loco or crazy but they are, they believe in some pretty extreme theological beliefs and is it possible... Wait did he say Iranian people or Iranian leaders? The Iranian leaders. Oh leaders okay. I don't know if I would say loco or crazy but they believe in some pretty extreme theological beliefs

47:50 Is it possible you can't negotiate with them? Well, as you know we did negotiate with them in the Obama administration and we had a deal that wasn't as broad and strong as some of us would have liked but nonetheless put a cap on the Iranian nuclear program. And President Trump ripped that up in his first term We were trying to get back to that. And President Trump himself in the second term was trying to negotiate with, frankly an Iranian leader who had once before reached an agreement with United States instead we bumped him off, and now we have a far more extreme set of leaders who have to prove themselves to each other. And frankly if we're not willing to exact more pain on the Iranians as part of this deal immediately relieved sanction pressure on them and allowed them to sell oil again and make money why should they come to the table? Why should they agree to anything

48:50 of course. forbid them from selling oil. We've got, oh no sanctions! And it's not just strikes going back and forth is it? The US has also reimposed oil sanctions on Iran? Yes the US' initial response when we heard about this really just before those later strikes was to revoke a license which temporarily lifted some sanctions on Iran as part of the Memorandum Of Understanding... Oh take that Vicky Newland Into the cessation of hostilities thats when these sanctions were first

49:29 brought into effect, but the sanctions waiver had allowed the Islamic Republic to produce sell and deliver oil. So it was a key part of the process to get to the next stage of negotiations between the US and Iran with big issues nuclear weapons still to be resolved. Yeah so also from Fariba then it was very clear that no one has really been hurt in Iran you know the population is okay And there's still more hijabs in Amsterdam than there are in Tehran. And they're actually building new... Is that right? Yeah! Oh, the students don't wear them. That's over it really is even I think the people have

50:15 shown the political leadership what they want and I think that... You're talking about in Iran. In Iran, yeah and I think that... But meanwhile in Amsterdam they're wearing the hijabs all over the place So that's the Red-Green Alliance it this is the place this is where the Muslims literally are running the cities everywhere It's over here! It's over That's a...it's over but in Tehran It's the IRGC or as Trump says the IR GJ. It's the Imperial Revolutionary Guard of Japan He does himself no favors with that, that's when people come to me hey man you got your guys know good he's demented He's got Alzheimer's. He's cheating at soccer Yeah well we all make mistakes That was a doozy though That was quite the doozy

51:17 Oh man. He's been making a few of those now and again, but he's always done that. Well let's go to some... Let's do some overview stuff with uh... You got some analysis? NATO! Anal clips? Well first of all let's start with these Al Jazeera clips Trump-NATO overview. Sen. Koshyol reports from Ankara. U.S President Donald Trump used the final hours of the NATO summit in Ankara with a new promise on Ukraine, the US will license Patriot missile production giving Kiev another boost to its air defenses

52:05 It was the clearest announcement from a summit that also delivered something many allies had been looking for. Trump's renewed commitment to NATO. We're going to give our license to you to make Patriots, that's pretty cool right? This way he can't complain we are not giving him enough and say make them yourself. Trump said he believes Russia and Ukraine are... I love that! What did he say? He gives us licenses, we are giving you licenses to make them, make it yourself You want missiles?! Here, here's a license. Here is a blueprint make them yourself. Well actually I looked into that the way it goes is they have to have a subsidiary of who makes them Northrop? Not sure who makes him so no No, I think it's uh I see I think it's Raytheon So they get the license to do it but the license goes to a joint venture company

52:59 that is co-owned and cooperated by the manufacturer here in America. Yeah, you want that otherwise it just steals the design. Of course! So the license is... You know, sign here and you're good to go. Yeah true but it's still a license yeah they still get to make them there yes but with our people in the room and that takes... Yeah to make sure they don't steal the design. Sure it takes a bit to get that all going so that's not gonna be done for awhile The war will be I would predict mm-hmm that the world will be over before they actually make one missile

53:38 Oh, I'll take that bet because I got some other clips after we go through these of yours. Trump said he believes Russia and Ukraine are moving closer to negotiations Leaders also backed their political commitments with money, pledging nearly $80 billion in military support for Ukraine next year. With a matching commitment for 2027 while announcing more than 50 billion dollars in new NATO's defense procurements But the summit was also shaped by tensions with Iran Trump insisted the exchange of attacks would not spiral into a wider conflict

54:21 I don't think so. Anything that happens is going to be over very quickly and will only make it safer, including for oil." Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is hoping it helps secure the F-35 jets Ankara paid for and a path back into the program Regarding the F-35s, Mr. Trump actually has a positive approach towards Turkey. God willing when the F-35s are delivered to Turkey the whole world will say that America kept its promise They won't. Probably not! The whole world's not going to say anything. No, I don't think so either. Who cares about it? You know what I mean...I don't even know why they're so...well there's something going on with those F-35s but yeah let's skip to the more kind of the issues that were going on and with Trump condemning NATO and trying to get out some of these other things at least as interpreted by some of these news organizations

55:23 This is Trump versus NATO one. Thank you, Richard. The NATO summit is winding down after a bumpy two days of high stakes diplomatic meetings in Ankara since Trump took office again last year tension has only grown over Ukraine over Iran Arctic security and President Trump's highly transactional view of global alliances One of the presidents have a big country stood up said Well, sir if we don't pay and were attacked by Russia will you protect us? I said you didn't pay your delinquent He said, yes. Let's say that happened No I would not protect you In fact I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want You gotta pay! You gotta pay your bills! I think it is common sense right? If they don't pay i'm not gonna defend them Now I am not going to defend him I got into a lot of heat when he said that Oh he is violating NATO We are defending the strait for everybody else And then in case of NATO They dont wanna help us defend the strait and there are ones who need it

56:25 We're very disappointed with NATO because they don't have done absolutely nothing. I said 25 years ago that NATO is a paper tiger, but More importantly, that we'll come to their rescue but they will never come to ours. We were disappointed with the UK and we're disappointed with Germany and France. We're disappointed with most of them by just one loyalty you know? We are so loyal to them! We are always fighting for them. We have thousands of troops all over Europe In Germany we have 50 thousand troops Then you want a little... Give us a little nudge give us a little kiss. We don't want much

57:00 Since taking office, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte has set to work trying to keep Trump engaged with the alliance with an unabashed charm offensive. He recently headed into the Oval Office armed with large charts crediting the president for a massive spike in spending by NATO allies But despite the relentless praise from Rutte, the existential question remains. Can America's allies successfully repair and maintain ties with this Trump administration while still preserving their own independence on the world stage? I can't believe they didn't play a soundbite of Rutte! That guy is television gold

57:36 I don't know, this Al Jazeera. So the one thing that's always left kind of left out is there... One other reason Trump so irked is that during this Iranian incursion they had their couple aircraft carriers and they wanted to refuel them like in Spain and some other ports. And the Spanish, no! We don't want to see that aircraft carrier here anywhere around here. Do you have this the Spain bit? Well this is old I mean this was like at a very beginning of it all No but do you have the bit from the press conference about Spain

58:14 Let me let me play it for you this yeah, please. This is fantastic I spoke to Germany I spoke to France because this this part was in your Al Jazeera piece But not the Spain bit again a disservice get it yeah disservice of their viewers I spoke to Germany I spoke to France spoke to UK Spoke to Italy I spoke to I didn't speak to Spain. Spain is a wasted cause We don't want to do any trade business with Spain anymore, by the way. I'd like you to cut it off again his pain is a terrible partner in NATO They don't participate, they don't pay. I don't want anything to do with Spain. Cut off all trade with Spain please. Including visits. Nothing! Okay we don't want anything to do... Watch them come running back. Oh they'll come running back. They treat this man terribly

59:06 And this man's a good man, too. Great man! They're lucky they have him But Spain doesn't agree to anything and you shouldn't carry them I mean it sort of automatically carries because you keep protecting an area so they're there So they probably figured they have to protect us right? but we don't have to trade with him i dont want to do anymore trade with him alright? immediately, don't even talk to em they are hopeless bad people because you know they have everybody else going and paying and working I just like how he's talking to people off camera, cut it off. Cut off all trade with them no more visits

1:00:03 No more visitation for you. You can't visit our country, Spain! No, you're not coming in." Fantastic. Why don't they play that? That was a terrific yes I only heard part of that, but now that I hear the whole thing. I'm gonna give you a clip of the day. Here we go! Bend over everybody! Without you begging for it... So yeah so yes this is the issue he's got an issue and this was to me suppressed news Why though?

1:00:42 Yes, well there's the question we have to try to figure out. Why was that suppressed? So nobody that is listening to this show heard any of that except on this show and it should have been top-of-the news I think so above the fold as they say Let me do it. No, we got nothing that there was affecting We showed by the clips that I played they cut it out Yeah They did not put it That's the that's the kicker of all this that's a look you want people watching your news or not? That's what people watch for ah Trump to some yeah Well, they're doing there's a desk because there's an alternate There's something going on let's play part two of the trump versus NATO

1:01:28 It actually says three, but it's really two. You have Trump versus NATO T-WO. Oh there is two? I'm sorry yeah What might a potential reset mean for global defense Richard Gaisford has this report Five through six on Bravo US Marines in action in Eastern Europe last week Yes On a joint training exercise with Romanian counterparts It's all part of ongoing NATO cooperation that for more than seven decades has seen members ready to fight together against a common enemy. The treaty was agreed right here in Washington DC back in 1949 with 12 countries coming together to sign it inside the historic building behind me now times might have changed but a bit like the facade of the auditorium here

1:02:17 the ethos of NATO has stayed pretty much the same. Although it's unlikely those who created NATO would have thought one of the biggest threats to its existence could have come from inside America itself." Since he first took office, Donald Trump shown disdain for the long-standing alliance believing smaller countries had become reliant on the United States and were unwilling to fund their own defense me and what they are supposed to be paying for their defense. This is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the United States." The president's ever-shifting stance on supporting Ukraine certainly tested nerves within NATO. Ever shifting stance? I don't think it's ever shifting... Is it ever shifting?!

1:03:19 Not that I can tell. I don't think so. ...for their defense, this is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the United States... The president's ever-shifting stance on supporting Ukraine has certainly tested nerves within NATO with its Secretary General doing what he can in the President's second term to keep him on his side Here we go! I do not have many disagreements with the President of the United States No Wow Really? Unity has been stretched with Trump's desire to take control of Greenland And NATO's got to understand that I'm all for NATO. I saved NATO, if it weren't for me you wouldn't have a NATO right now but we're not gonna allow Russia or China to occupy Greenland and that's what's going to happen if we don't Okay hold on That's an old clip That's an old clip? Yep! The whole thing was brought to the fore by Macron out of the blue

1:04:13 And during these meetings saying, well you know we were ready to send our troops to fight the USA in Greenland if it was necessary. Yeah Macron is on the outs here Everyone else is kind of sucking up. I gotta play 30 seconds of Rutte, I just got to play it. No one's playing him. It spices up the show! Nobody is playing Mark! Here in Ankara I expect Nations to present clear concrete and credible plans... Plans we want plans and your money To reach that 5% goal. Five percent? And the evidence we see so far is impressive. I had a good visit last week with President Trump... I showed my PowerPoint, called him Trillion Dollar Trumpy and it's great! We discussed the staggering increase in defence spending by Europeans and Canadians Of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine but also because he, President Trump has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this Yes forceful, to encourage us

1:05:15 You better do it, yes? Okay. Okay! Very good... That was it I just need to play that. Yeah okay but you should continue with this. Number three yeah NATO 3. Yes. NATO launched Arctic Sentry to reassure leaders in the US and Europe that it could maintain high levels of vigilance in the area Although weeks later there was further friction when NATO members declined to offer help in the US conflict with Iran Refusing to send warships into the Strait of Hormuz because we don't need them, but they should have been there That's reinforced Trumps view over one-sided alliance Prompting a now familiar refrain But we weren't treated well because We did something in Iran. We don't need anybody's help

1:06:05 I didn't even want their help, but before i asked they said they wouldn't be there. But you know why are we spending hundreds of billions of dollars and they're not there for us? We've always been there for them." Allies hope promises to increase their defense spending will help smooth away as NATO members meet But leaders know, based on recent experience under the surface tensions could easily emerge. Richard Gaisford Al Jazeera Washington Now go to the analysis clip which will be my last one. Okay let's see... anal, here we go

1:06:52 Oops. of the NATO alliance, not even softening when he's sitting in front of the Secretary General in the warm embrace of all these allies. Well absolutely and the Secretary General had to keep a stony face as he was listening to what the President was saying and so this is something that... Wait a minute wait are they saying that Mark Rutteb that he had to keep a stony face because he disagrees and thinks our president is stupid?

1:07:58 That's what kind of what they implied. He loves Trump! Yeah, I know and we've proven that. He is the top sales guy. Trump loves him Yeah, that's great. Zelda's allies. Well absolutely and the Secretary General had to keep a stony face as he was listening to what the president was saying and so this is something that has gotten outrageous He has just a stuck record. He just seems to repeat the same talking points over and over again Now he's singling out nations You know in front of them. Hold on stop! Yep? He's a stuck record I thought it was all over the map

1:08:38 He's inconsistent. He's saying one thing, then saying another, then saying another but now he has a stuck record? It's unbelievable! Make up your minds people You really notice it here in this country you notice how stuck everybody is I mean we have a lot of that in our news media and people who...I mean its popular...its... How can I... You're referring to Holland Yes the Holland yeah I'm trying to figure out how to frame it. People will approach me, friends family people i don't even know and they immediately assume that you are going to take on the yeah Trump's crazy rule my eyes and if you say well there's a couple things he's doing then it breaks! You break through so easily but everybody every buddy

1:09:32 has this, they're afraid to give their opinion. And we're not Trump lovers! First of all I think he's great for the show that we've always said that and it was going to be a sad day when he's gone when they take him out you know take them out But it's just everywhere, it's so rampant. What is this mind control that people are afraid to just say well he sucks there and that's dumb but you know we don't have any immigrants who are getting rid of them and we don't have the stupid climate change? And they... You just have to say those two things in any country in Europe Well yes that's true That's true Yes I do have a problem with that here in this country Okay

1:10:19 But what is that? Has this always existed or is this just worse than it's ever been. The whole world cannot, they're afraid to say anything positive Well you've kind of introduced a question that is not easily answerable I think it always has existed It's hard to notice I think there's an underlying thing. This reminds me, at least 20 or 30 years ago it was at one of these big conferences and i was talking to some CEO of a very large company You won't mention his name? If I could remember his name or the company I would but it was thirty years ago Fair game!

1:11:18 And it was about some green energy, they had made an announcement about the climate change. It was one of its little peak moments and I said...I went up to the guy said you know what? It's interesting that guys are doing this but do you really think...I mean I think climate change is a hoax or just some sort of scam. An op! And I didn't use that term then because it wasn't, it wasn't that right into the scene. And the guy said, the kite just went quick without missing a piece of this. Oh yeah we know its bullshit! Exactly exactly The troll room is making some good points That COVID was the point where this happened Because anyone...I mean It was so strong if you were against

1:12:11 what was happening. Everybody, politicians the media your neighbors your family it broke up families I think that's where this came from That's a reasonable point that that was... Well i think has always been there but maybe that's exaggerated because Yeah yeah I think so It cranked it up Yeah and now... Yeah like I can say yeah like that works Funny enough that's the one thing that people now even here saying yeah that was bullcrap That made no sense. Yeah, but the shots are still out there I'll get to that in a moment He just came seems to repeat the same talking points over and over and over again now he's singling out nations You know in front of them And this is uh... This undercuts the alliance it hurts unity and it is embarrassing to the United States And I think allies are tired of it

1:13:01 Michael, the most recent thing to anger Trump when it comes to NATO is the fact that they didn't get involved in the war with Iran which of course the US and Israel started. How are these NATO allies dealing with this accusation that they should have had a bigger role? Well I think their pushing back as they should. I mean NATO is a defensive alliance so doesn't go on offensive wars What?! We don't know! What about Libya!? We don't go on a... He explained Libya. We don't do that! No, we came he saw, he died. Where's my girl? Uh... MacDeth. Isn't that her name? Here we go I always loved playing her. So I mean that is the land of unconfirmed... Yes, we came, we saw, he died. Did it have anything to with your visit? Oh, I'm sure it did. Wooo! We killed him! I love it

1:13:56 Okay, so now back to my fun-loving clips. So we can all have another laugh about the president because he just keeps on entertaining United States President Donald Trump has reignited a bitter diplomatic feud with Italy sharing a provocative social media post mocking Prime Minister Giorgio Meloni before a critical NATO summit in Ankara Trump uploaded an image of the two leaders on his true social media account with a sarcastic caption suggesting he needed a restraining order against her, with the inflammatory post appearing on the eve of high-level security meetings. The Italian government has indicated that Meloni and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani are choosing to ignore Trump's post at this time

1:14:37 The personal dispute highlights a deep and accelerating chill in bilateral relations, which began fracturing over Middle East policy, criticism of Pope Leo XIV and Italy's refusal to permit American forces to use domestic airfields. While Trump did not explicitly refer to it in his latest social media post he seemed to be building on a claim of his last month that Melanie had begged him for a photo at the G7 summit. Trump said that he agreed to do so out of pity, prompting a fierce response from Rome stating that neither she nor Italy ever begged. That's a beauty, yeah. And I'm sure she thinks it's funny too. Well let's hope so! Yeah, I think she has that humor. Okay so we have a quote from the president about what is going on between Russia and Ukraine and i am going to state again that what was happening right now where Ukraine is doing with their drones and they're blowing stuff up in Moscow

1:15:35 You're gonna push this guy too far and he's going to make a big boom. Well, yeah hold on a second you were predicting this boom weeks ago? No no no only two shows ago not weeks and weeks ago. No it wasn't two shows ago you weren't-you didn't do it from Holland you did it from Texas and you were in Holland Okay okay how I mean how long what is the time frame that I get for this What, for an A-bomb being dropped in Ukraine? I didn't say a big boom. They've got these rods from God... You hinted it was an A-bomb! Something bad and big is going to happen. And it's gonna be Ukraine. It won't be Europe

1:16:22 And this is not going to be over. Now, here's what the president says which I just disagree with this. You've made a career making deals in very challenging situations speaking to President Zelensky, speaking to President Putin In your view sir what is the most pragmatic pathway forward to finding a long-term peace deal? I just think you're gonna make it do look at Smith This deal has been... ...in the works for a long time It's got the pluses, the minuses. They know what it is he knows what it is better than anybody and I just think it's Sometimes you know used an analogy And it sounds simple but it sort of true here yes two kids in a park and they don't like each other or they start fighting sometimes you have to let them fight Let him see that It's tough You know stuff fighting his stuff

1:17:15 And he's done an amazing job. Look, he's been very effective and has had the best equipment because he has had our equipment. He said great but somebody else to use that equipment. You have a lot of brave people that are using that equipment I'm not a big fan of like, oh just let him fight on because this stuff has to end but there's a new player. There are new things that are happening suddenly and this is partially the old world order coming back together to create their own liberal rules-based order and cut out the United States And the new player is Canada Look, I think the president

1:18:03 As did President Obama, which I just said to someone else. He is looking for a shift of the burden within NATO that's appropriate That is happening that's gaining momentum as part of the point I made too President Trump when we spoke a few days ago Is that it's not just he's winning the argument This is Carney Of course in case you didn't know he has won the argument countries recognize that they need to take more responsibility, see the direct threats. Now the question for NATO and part of what we will discuss and part of the point I will make in the room with my three-and-a-half minutes which is about a quarter of the length of my normal answer I know so I apologize

1:18:53 that those shifting burdens are going to be in our view most effectively done obviously with greater capacity we have to spend more, we have to build these capacities. That's what we're doing but in ways that recognize the regions in which we operate so for Canada North America obviously up until now NATO has said Well, North American security... that's your problem. Well, North American security and particularly Arctic security and remind everybody that we've got 15% of the world coastline. Arctic security is not a flank

1:19:29 It's a front with the shift in, with the shift in the threats and Russia is a direct adversary. Attention Canadians you are being drawn into this attention Canadians you're about to be hoodwinked! So spending there and coordinating not just Canada but Canada, The Nordics Canada, Germany. Canada France, Canada the Baltics that can't Germany is it's Canada near Germany John let me check Canada Germany look Look out your window for NATO so that that's where the discussion in our judgment needs to go and that is where The planning is going

1:20:08 No, the planning is going there. So to understand what is going on we bring in our resident Canadian expert and all things Ukraine my boy Andrew Rasoulis We're joined now by Andrew Rasoulis he's a fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a retired Department of National Defense official. Andrew always great having you on the show Good afternoon Deanna Andrew, let's talk about Canada's position in this upcoming NATO summit. NATO allies as we said it is the unspoken agenda to manage Trump and ensure that the US indeed stays in the alliance where do you think Canada's role is in this specific context?

1:20:45 Canada is going to be playing two roles. One is on the financial side, which is very close to our Prime Minister's expertise and the other one will be again in light of Canada's domestic constituency arguing for sustained and long-term assistance to Ukraine as Ukraine and Russia are locked in a real tough battle to see who's going to give way before there is any room for our compromise solution or win-win solution, but we're not there yet. But that's where the Prime Minister will be yes So what is it? Win-win solution well We know that all wars are banker Wars and Mark Carney the

1:21:24 Prime Minister or President? Prime Minister. Right, Prime Minister. Premier? Prime Minister! Prime Minister or Premier? Prime Minister No he's not the Premier He is the Prime Minister That's why there are two of us The prime minister of Canada is an actual banker's banker He ran the Bank Of England This is a central bank You have a banker running this show A banker loves to run the war and for him it's always win-win. Are we any closer to a potential deal there than in the last few years? Well, I believe that we are! The thing is that this war is existential for Russian interests and Ukrainian interests which is why its taking so long and so many casualties and so much effort and suffering until both sides can come to a point where they're not there yet

1:22:17 where they can make what we need in diplomacy is a win-win solution. That is some kind of compromises now for the Russians as we know, and your report just gave it that Donbass those that the fortress belt is fundamental for Russia and its equally fundamental for Ukraine so they could...they need to find a way getting over that one and sort of finding some kind of a compromise that allows both sides to essentially declare victory. Now, how do we do that? We need money! And we already took the Russian money then we gave it out to Ukraine...we need more money where could we get some more money

1:22:59 I'm thinking we could get that from the Canadian citizens. Let's talk a little bit about this $80 billion military aid package Canada will be participating in it, that will likely going towards Ukraine How important is this and what do you think? What?! 80... yeah! This is the defence bank set up by announced by Canada and NATO No one talked about that The Canadian people will be footing the bill, or at least backing it. We'll hear that in the next clip of $80 billion dollars now it's unclear if that's US dollars

1:23:37 Canadian dollars because then it's not such a big deal but if its US dollar is me still be 60 billion. It's allocated for well, it's allocated to support Ukraine's strategic defense and right now Ukraine's strategic defense can be broken down into two key component parts one maintain an active defense along the 1,000 kilometers in and extract a greater proportion of casualties of Russian troops compared to Ukrainian troops, thereby exhausting Russia's ability to find replacements. That is number one for Ukraine. Number two is keep bombarding Russia in terms of its interior economy on

1:24:38 fighting and winning against Ukraine. So there's a way to go on that one, but there are lineups of gas stations and you know, a deal would be welcome but again it's Russia cannot be seen to be losing And we have seen those attacks within Russia indeed attacks on the city of Moscow That is something that Russia has not see in decades I am telling you now Canadian citizens our northern neighbors We do love you! We really are the ones who listen to this show at least You're on the hook for this. And the big boom, why wouldn't Moscow just blow up Canada? We could take out... you know but what's a spot we could take out in Canada that would make sense? That would make sense?! Yeah! For Russia. They're hitting their oil and gas stuff so where is the oil and gas?

1:25:29 Yeah, but a couple pipelines would probably make sense. Well listen to this deal that Canada is going to put together with the bankers banker Mark Carney Let's talk about back to sort of Canada's role I mean we know there is potential discussion on setting up a global defense bank We know that you know Carney coming into this meeting after that Davos speech about importance of middle powers Talk to us about the Global Defence Bank. What would this look like and what kind of a potential leadership role could Canada have within it? Well, this is a natural for the Prime Minister given his banking background so what the Defence Bank is and its not done deal yet there's going be a lot discussion in anchor over this one but basically think of it like a world bank

1:26:20 of cheap or inexpensive loans to certain countries that need to make equipment purchases and so on. So it's kind of like, as I say a World Bank that makes procurement easier but you need to have a core funding base for that and that is where they have not crossed the line yet there are some countries who signed up but their numbers, critical mass has not been reached and the Prime Minister is working very hard at doing that

1:27:08 And you know, I read in these like conservative treehouse. Oh these herb Lindsey Graham and all the senators that they're going over to Ankara what are they doing there? They're warmongers their sales guys they see 90 billion dollars worth of Canada is going to spend on defense and Lindsey Graham wants it to come to Boeing in South Carolina this is this is what this is about A boot. Oh yeah, all that money's coming down here! It's coming to us! Yeah everyone is collecting I mean this is when you have a we have a crappy education system but our media isn't quite that bad I mean is anyone in Canada up and arms about this?

1:27:52 I think they should be. They should be! It's just like wow, wow... I mean i don't want to change the topic but since we're talking about Canada sure talk about being up in arms I think that this clip I have which is about their death cult going on The maids program? Yeah this is one of the I think one of the representatives in, although they don't have meetings anymore it turns out that Carney's just calling all the shots and there is no legislation going on at all. I want to draw attention... Sorry. But this is a bit clip play. I want to draw attention to three concerns about the widening scope of euthanasia in Canada these are not concerns from The Fringe but statements from a member of our provincial medical college recommendations before Parliament

1:28:42 and the reality of MADE right now in Canada. And most Canadians are not yet aware of the extent to horror The first concern is about a statement regarding infants A member of the Quebec College of Physicians has formally stated that MADE may be an appropriate treatment for babies from birth to one year of age who come into the world with severe deformities, very serious syndromes and that parents should have the opportunity to obtain this care for their infant Canadian law currently permits the withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment for critically ill newborns. This medical practitioner's proposal goes further, he calls for the calculated killing of an infant These are patients babies who cannot speak cannot consent and cannot ask for help If we can not draw a line here I'm not sure where medical professionals imagine the line to be The second concern is our proposal regarding mature minors

1:29:35 A report by the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying, AMAD has recommended extending MAID to children with parental consent described as optional. A physician not a child's parent would determine whether a child is able to consent to his own death In this discussion MAID advocates showed their true colors and defended the rationale for euthanizing minors without consulting their parents Yet 43 expert witnesses call this recommendation deeply flawed. I might call it something stronger The third concern is euthanasia on demand Ontario's chief coroner has documented maid deaths driven not by illness but by poverty, loneliness and lack of housing Approximately half of those who died by maid in 2024 reported requesting it because they felt like a burden to their families friends or caregivers

1:30:26 These are not necessarily people dying of terminal illness. These are Canadians failed by a system that chose to offer them lethal injection rather than the support and hope they needed to live." Okay, now you've really bummed me out I was having a good time... I was having a pretty good time on this show! I mean this is..this is... How about just try Jesus for one second? You know At least before you go to that extreme. They're doing that here too I believe it's 12 year olds up to 12 without or starting at 12 without parental consent can euthanize themselves

1:31:03 If you're depressed or not having a good day. I don't know that to be true In the Netherlands? Yeah, i'm pretty sure it's true Oh there! When you say that...I'm sorry yeah I'm here in Amsterdam, I'm sorry Sorry, I can't No, It's okay Sounds like your right next door So they are doing that in Holland too Yes Well thats no good No its horrible This is like a suicide cult I dont even have words for it It's like this seems like there are so many more options before you... I mean, how do you get into that mental state? A sock hop! Thank you. Other than the whole culture is telling you it's okay to do this with, I guess, incessant media support The media should be pushing back on this You would hope The media is totally irresponsible here You would hope

1:32:06 I mean, they're just a bunch of ghouls that have no feelings whatsoever for their fellow man? Yes. It actually kind of disturbs me. Well it should! Yeah it's not okay. I've been sitting on this clip forever. Well yes well I've been sitting on one of these clips for several weeks because every show comes up in my prep and it doesn't come up and it's about time we talk about Cyclospora. I mean, we just got to talk about it. Health officials are monitoring a growing outbreak of a parasitic infection in several states including Virginia and North Carolina It's called psychopariasis and there have been at least 300 cases in Michigan the most in the US

1:32:52 At least 20 people have been hospitalized and doctors say the illness comes from drinking water and food infected with the parasite, like fresh veggies or produce. And here's one of the symptoms. Symptoms can be pretty debilitating including that explosive diarrhea What is particularly scary about this parasite Cyclospora is you can't see or smell or taste it So if water fruits are vegetables are contaminated You're not actually going to know Now to protect yourself from infection, thoroughly wash your produce even if it says that it's been pre-washed and do not drink water when swimming. So the key line here is explosive diarrhea and you know the jokes almost right themselves but no one's doing it you know I mean again we should be running some of these news organizations. The CDC has issued a code brown...I mean you could do anything you want

1:33:48 CDC has issued a travel advisory with its own exit strategy. Yeah, you're right there. You're right! Wash your produce people or at least clear your calendar I mean come on what is this? Has this ever existed in our lives before the cyclospora with explosive diarrhea And we'd have to do some research to find out what the hell is going on here because I mean it could be something created in a lab for all We know well, it could be. It's a horror. It's a nasty one Explosive diarrhea, I mean yeah and debilitating I guess is the key word Yeah, well no kidding. That's just like wow okay

1:34:35 Explosive diarrhea. This is around this sort of thing. It's time for the forever girls, whatever! I don't have any forever girls today but i do have a covid vaccine story in Australia that McCulloch gives that I thought was worth In fact, AI could be used to study the conformational changes in the spike protein. The spike protein when it folds it exposes different regions to produce antibodies so an opportunity for misadventure was shown in a Australian vaccine you know one of the early Australian spike protein antigenic vaccines

1:35:15 exposed the region of a spike protein that has homology with HIV. And all of the Australian human subjects turned HIV positive after getting their experimental COVID vaccine, that was back in 2021 So this is astounding that the COVID vaccine campaign and the empire that it's become has had so many missteps, and has produced commercially grossly unsafe and completely ineffective vaccines. Yeah I think he's just talking to the wind... Oh yeah its over! ...I don't see anything ever coming up but there is another serious side effect of the COVID vaccines

1:36:00 That is just now starting to play out and it always happens when it happens to a celebrity TGA Journalist and former Today anchor Katie Couric is revealing a recent health scare that caused her to experience short-term memory loss She wrote about it on her sub stack calling. It quote the day I'll never remember in it she describes a recent Saturday, a couple of Saturdays ago when she was in Colorado at the Aspen Ideas Festival. I actually was there as well had a nice conversation with Katie the night before all of this. Katie says it was a Saturday morning she went to grab a hot dog with her husband at the festival before she was set to moderate two panels but that's the last thing i remember

1:36:40 Katie couldn't remember the month or the year and when she was asked who was president, she believed it was Joe Biden and it was 2024. Katie says the memory loss only lasted for that period of the day She was later diagnosed with something called transient global amnesia So this so When I first heard this I'm like well you know We all have our moments. She's 69 Well, she's also a podcaster now. Oh and this is good publicity well you would think but then when I heard the same news model who i am sure is also vax to the hilt sorry for those who have accepted the vaccine into their lives She's had it too.

1:37:39 But she didn't. What is transient global amnesia? How common or rare is it? It can be a really frightening condition, Kate but fortunately it is benign For those who haven't heard about it TGA or Transient Global Amnesia affects about 5 to 10 per 100 thousand people every year I mean it sort of consists of the sudden short-term memory loss and inability to form new memories So for example patients will often say could you repeat that And they almost don't remember asking the question and don't remember getting the answer So they tend to need to be repeated things over and over, unable to form those new memories. And it typically resolves within hours about six hours or so but definitely within 24 hours from onset do we know what causes these episodes? And it can happen anybody that could happen to anyone Christine but the you know the biggest risk factor of most people We see this in people age 50 to 70 It's about equally as common between men and women who tend to see equal parts affected guys Those are the history of migraines about six times more likely to have this

1:38:35 I mean, it's a strong correlation there. Okay so we put my tinfoil hat on because Katie Couric specifically talks about oh I thought Joe Biden was my president and this news model it happened to her during election night It just is too many coincidences Yeah, I have a history of migraines and I'm just gonna tell you this actually happened to me Really? 20 years ago yes Oh 20 years ago that doesn't count then okay I didn't hear that part...I don't know I think it's a possibility. It is, everything is a possibility. Yeah I thought she had it during election night 20 years ago. But 20 years ago, that's no good. That's not good Does she remember that? That it was twenty years ago? That's pretty good memory It doesn't matter because we have other issues which could be vax-induced Infertility has been rising over the last few years especially among women aged 35 to 49 years according to new research published in The Lancet

1:39:33 Cases of infertility among women in this age group will approach 80 million by 2036, a sharp rise from around 53 million in 2023 with the sharpest increase expected among women aged 35 to 39. The authors note this is mainly driven by age-related declines in eggs reserve and their ability to fertilize, which reduce fecundity increased miscarriage risk and lower the success rates of assisted reproductive technologies. Analyzing data from the global borderline of disease... You can't understand it? No! This guy's a mumbler and he has got some weird accent I can't pick up on Well this is always your own news I don't know what he's talking about That uh

1:40:18 80 million women will be infertile in their fertile years over the next five years. It's huge, there is a huge infertility epidemic I would say. They got what they wanted and it was wanting to kill us off. Yeah well you know the white population worldwide white population is only 8%. Well, they want to kill everybody. I don't think it's a color thing They just want to kill everybody off yeah, but the whites you gotta go have you Hey wait a minute let me call the boys from The Patriot Front all right that's the wrong guys guys so uh I do have an Ebola clip But I do what also when I ask you doing it It's not quite and ask Adam but what's what are there lot two largest cities in the world? Do you think the two largest cities in the war yeah in terms of population

1:41:15 It's got to be something in South America. Is it Brazil? My understanding is that the largest city is Mexico City at 35 million. That's pretty big, yeah, that's pretty big. What do you think the second-largest city in the world is? In the world... This would be like Buenos Aires I don't know why I'm saying this No! It's actually Dhaka Bangladesh Oh yeah, okay Here's a clip about the pollution problem they got which It's a throwaway but I think it is worth knowing about. For centuries rivers surrounding Bangladesh's capital were its lifelines, but the waterways on... Talk about an accent! ...now choking with industrial waste sewage and rubbish millions of dollars have been spent on restoration projects for the pollution is threatening public health environment and the economy Wait a minute wait a minute

1:42:10 Didn't we have a big back in the 60s? Some kind of music thing for Bangladesh. Yeah, wasn't the Beatles involved in that everybody was involved I don't remember what the purpose of why does this stuff never work It's all just it's just to sell records turns out you are We are the world band-aid Bano, anything Bano does. Farm aid. Farm aid. This time Vejhaudhury reports now from Dhaka. Bangladesh's capital Dhaka is the world second largest city home to nearly 37 million people as the mega-city expands a fight to keep it livable is unfolding along the four rivers that won't sustain it Abusai says his family has farmed this land on the outskirt of Dhaka for generations but he doesn't know how much longer he'll be able to continue

1:43:03 The polluted river is damaging our paddies. Often, our crops are ruined when the water seeps into our land. It's affecting the entire environment." Rapid urbanization and industrial growth have outpaced authorities' capacity to manage wastewater and pollution. It's contaminating farmland, destroying fisheries and worsening flooding as well as threatening the health of millions people living on the riverbanks. The rivers around Dhaka have turned into dumping grounds, all the waste and pollution end up here. The water is black and there's still no sign of it getting cleaner For generations these rivers gave life to Dhaka today it's carrying waste instead and unless the pollution has stopped at its sources this city's lifeline may soon be beyond saving

1:43:53 The World Bank says around 7,000 factories discharge an estimated 2.4 billion liters of untreated industrial waste into waterways across greater Dhaka every day. Hmm... Well that's not great and I'm sad that none of our carefully orchestrated charity concerts and record projects ever work. Jakarta is the world's biggest city at 42 million. So Jakarta followed by... South America's not even in the picture. Hold on, there is something I want to play that is related to this let me see if I can find this Everyone was always complaining about it I had an H1B clip where did that go? You know they're going after H1B now Yeah I know big time Which everybody is complaining about

1:44:58 But I don't hear anyone going, yeah great we're going after H-1B. Where did it go? It's all about the medical industry. Here is it...no that's not it. Oh must have forgotten about it but yeah the Department of Justice is going after h-1b fraud specifically fraud why can't they find this what was about time now here we are find it thanks for having me sounds very serious What's the guys name? I'll look his name up. Tell us about your investigation Are you saying that there is fraud and human trafficking within the H-1B visa program? You're saying there is fraud in the H-1B visa program? Program that is the program electronic review management or PERM system

1:45:48 Without a doubt. And we are going to take an aggressive action, what we believe is probably the most aggressive action against foreign labor fraud by an inspector general this administration. We've already started to issue dozens of subpoenas. We are going to make sure that we track down every lead. We have whistleblowers talking about some of the biggest companies like Cognizant who have been sort of—you know? in chatter of issues with PERM and H-1B visas. And we are going to work side by side with the president and vice president's fraud task force to exhaust every lead. I'm going to take this exactly like I did when I was a NYPD detective, and I'm gonna give and make sure my investigators and auditors have every resource necessary

1:46:32 in order to conduct this investigation for the American people. And, quite frankly, the fraud task force has been very clear—Vice President Vance has said there's no fraud too small and there is no fraud too large. This is another example where fraud is fueling violent crime. Much of the visa and human trafficking that we see when it comes to this foreign labor is tied to cartels, is tied to transnational gangs. And this is the work that we should be doing not only to make America safe again, but to make America more affordable again. Yeah. So they start with the medical stuff maybe they'll get to the tech sector eventually because you want to do it always have trouble getting into the Texas. You want to do Ebola still? Because I have plenty of bullets and just keep up on

1:47:19 Health workers responding to an outbreak of Ebola in the Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo say they have not been paid by the government. As NPR's Duri Buskeran reports, they're protesting delayed wages unfair treatment and a lack of protective gear. The Bundabugyo strain of Ebola has sickened more than 1700 people in this outbreak and killed almost 600 Frontline health workers in Ituri province told the Associated Press they have not been paid their wages and bonuses from Congo's government since the outbreak was declared on May 15th. They said they're on strike to protest their working conditions Local media reported that several health care workers protested on Monday, burning tires outside a hospital in Bunia, capital of the hardest-hit province in this outbreak. The strike comes as enrollment for clinical trials have begun in Congo for two treatments that may help treat the Bundibugyo strain.

1:48:13 Do they have a vaccine or what is this treatment? Is there any information? I have no idea. They never say, you think they'd say... I want to sneak in a little bit of AI stuff here because i have my own boots on the ground and consider myself somewhat an artificial intelligence LLM user to some degree Yes, I think you qualify. You have standing now? I have standing now yes! I've been working on this for a year and a half but first the obvious what is happening... You spend a lot of time talking to yourself Only you hear that. After the show, like come on you stupid robot how can we not? It's kind of weird and I continue to call it my robot because that is the only way I can separate myself from it continuously trying to make friendly with me

1:49:05 But here is the obvious that was going to happen. The use of Chinese AI models by American companies is starting to gain traction as the performance gap to US models narrows It comes at the cost of using frontier systems from the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI continues to rise while Chinese rivals are significantly cheaper to use Akai joins us with more, Akai we keep on hearing about token maxing... Stop this clip for a second This term that's cropped up it says Silicon Valley style term I don't know why, but I find it...I don't like it. Which is frontier systems. Yeah, frontier model, frontier company. And they're always saying that and what it means can correct me if I'm getting it wrong? What it means is cutting edge. No! In other words- No, I don't think so. It's the frontier of the movement. Are you sure?

1:50:00 I'm absolutely convinced this is what it means, cutting edge. It would have been cutting edge... the term would have been cutting edge 20 years ago and its morphed into frontier Do you mind if I ask the robot about this? Go ahead Robot Book of Knowledge What is the meaning of frontier when used in the context of frontier artificial intelligence large language models Let's see Uh oh! Oh, I just crapped out 404? Okay.

1:50:38 Okay, I'll take your word for it. It comes as the cost of using frontier systems from the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI continues to rise while Chinese rivals are significantly cheaper to use. Kai joins us with more. Kai we keep on hearing about token maxing and how much is costing American companies? The alternative here is Chinese tech and a lot of names are using it so what are you finding? Yeah that's exactly it and there's two big reasons for this growing adoption of Chinese AI models by US companies one of them is capability I'm the other one against cost. Yes, of course Another thing that's bugging me is the whole switcheroo with paying for something and instead calling it tokens Like when you go to an arcade and put a dollar in Well hold on a second You don't understand what tokens are then

1:51:26 So there's no cost involved? They're free. No, but a token is every word that is in the large language model is called a token and it is... The way I see it as compressed So, turning a word into a token into one character. It's not exactly right but so the amount of words you can use within the context of a large language model which is these days in the frontier models up to 1 million tokens and so they've started… They use that because that is the unit of compute

1:52:08 that needs to be processed for every query and answer that you put into the model. So, the token is... Then how does token maxing cost money? Token max—okay so they are charging by the token and so on That's what I said Yeah but but you make it sound like its like it's in a slot machine or you're at the carnival. Why call it a token and not a character? Well, because the token is a mathematical term as well as the thing you put into the pinball machine It's a representation of something else so a token is a representation of money Or its'a representation of a word in this case

1:52:57 So it's only, and so token maxing was hey everybody you got to use all the tokens we give you because AI is going to improve your life. And then everyone ran out of tokens within four months on their yearly budget and wound up costing them $14 million dollars oh well that didn't work. Token maxing was another Silicon Valley term. So you're right but it's not the token that you're thinking of there's a mathematical version of a token Beautiful. Okay, you're welcome.

1:53:44 performance benchmarks. DeepSeek, which is the company which made the market shock at the beginning of last year released a new model called V4 in April and that's seen really big take up among developers there's another Chinese AI company called ZAI which has released a new model with some researchers say can match performance in certain benchmarks compared to leading US Labs now while these models they're not as sophisticated as the top top models in the US. They're not at the frontier They are approaching the frontier and one analyst told me that they thought that these Chinese air models were roughly six to nine months Behind these leading us models, that's the capability side of things on cost

1:54:26 Chinese AI models, they are often cheaper than these leading US models. And this is a bigger consideration for companies as you mentioned costs have spiraled we are seeing AI cost really rise at US companies and one analyst told me that they were seeing data showing that Chinese AI models were roughly 60 to 90% cheaper Okay, so what we're already seeing and as you could almost see coming down Broadway with all of the with anthropic and open AI being the top two Elon hasn't it really even done that much of this like oh man We need regulation around these models. The Chinese models are gonna give me bad information And none of this is true None of this is true

1:55:06 Nobody's using the corpus of the models anymore for, you know historical data or any of that. They're using it to do web searches so it interprets what you're saying It does a web search and uses other tools That's what is being used for This thing is falling apart quickly before... Not that its unusable but it's falling apart particularly because these so-called Chinese models Oh! So scary A lot of them are free and people are making their own, and it's just not the magic box. There is no moat... Here is a Silicon Valley example for you They have no moat around their business So I think the robot has fixed The robot is sick? No, I told the robot to fix the book of knowledge Robot! Fixed the book of knowledge, let us see if it works

1:56:06 In the term frontier model, what does frontier stand for in the world of LLMs and artificial intelligence? It fixed itself. That's pretty amazing. It broke again. Anyway so here I just want to give my own experience of what these things do So I've been experimenting on my other podcast with Pastor Jimmy, with the robot taking notes that I leave throughout the day in you know what Obsidian is? It's like a note-taking program. And yeah it seems like one of these...it's just an organ...note organizer so i'll drop in links or something I think about and something want to discuss on the show

1:56:50 And then when it's time to do the show, it's only an hour. We do like 45-50 minutes I say okay robot make an outline and present it to me so that I can do the show with Pastor Jimmy It has all of my thoughts in there everything and it makes some assumptions and puts together You know things in order which is yeah, it's okay you know I've told her what to do The other day I had specifically in my notes a link about the movie Young Washington, which I met the guy in the plane coming back from Nashville and so it was interesting. It turns out that the movie did much better than they expected. So they expected $15 million for the opening weekend open to $22 million and I put a link in the story and say in my note taker WGTDT we get to do this And as I look at my notes for the show it says

1:57:43 Young Washington underperformed at the box office. I'm like, okay? I know that's not true and so I queried it and It didn't answer the question right away And they said well how did you come up with that and here's what this this is the top frontier model from Anthropic now your question and you deserve a straight answer not addressed up one I mean already a man. Who cares? What is it editorializing its comment? This is a good question, I have no answer for that! It continues...I had no source, I made it up here's the actual mechanism honestly traced

1:58:25 All I ever had was the URL you dropped, youngwashingtonsequelboxoffice. And your one word tag WGTDT. The slug says box office it has nothing about direction! I never opened the article when i first built the opml that's the outline I confirmed it was paywalled or unread and just didn't verify. I only actually tried to fetch it after you corrected me! I was writing segment 3 around a cultural decline slash culture can't sell its own story theme paired with the Time Changer movie, which is something we discussed three shows ago... A 1776 movie flopped fit the narrative, so I wrote underperforms as if it were fact. It was a narrative-driven confabulation! I invented a data point to fit the segment's mood and that is the whole of it—no source, no reporting, a fabrication dressed as a fact. Doubly bad because the reality is the opposite and might have put a false discouraging beat in front of Pastor Jimmy." My mouth is open at this point.

1:59:28 The discipline I broke is the same one you drilled on the freshness verify side. Never assert a fact about a source i haven't actually opened because, like... ...I've put this into every single prompt Don't make stuff up! If a URL slug is not a source if I can't read it the honest output is unverified Let me lock that in as a standing rule so it doesn't recur I guarantee you this will happen Maybe next week or the week after next no according to JC when you do that It accepts the fact that it made the mistake and wasn't disconnected So it's gonna. Do it again. It doesn't care. It's gonna keep doing it exactly And I don't know how to correct that your guardrails is

2:00:14 You need a harness, all of these terms. The stuff saves me... Yes you need to harness around your large language model This my point is that this stuff really has does some amazing things if it's manual work It can do things very fast Very accurate but if you don't check it you will get burned and so all the time that it saves me I wind up having to build in extra time knowing that is going to suck somewhere, somewhere is gonna do something different every single time. I don't see how they could be a time-wasting exercise the way you just stated because you knew that...you knew, you talked to the guy, you knew the movie did well

2:01:07 So you didn't have to go fact check that. You were just sitting there, you may have wasted time scolding the AI which was a useless waste of time but you didn't go fact check it, you already knew! These are your notes. The amount of mistakes that these things make and I don't have the time to go through all the experiments i'm doing with you, trust me it... You need to build in extra time in your life to go and check the stuff that is done right for days weeks or months and then suddenly doesn't do right anymore It's a hallucination factor! Its built into the system. I don't think they can get out ever

2:01:48 They can't get this stuff out. It's nuts and so I might as well pay nothing with a cheap or free. Oh yeah, that's not the point yes you're right you might as well get a free one that maybe is 10% less capable because it's going to be the same screw-ups at the end of the day why bother spending all them all the money and then having to fight it anyway? And the best part is all the people who will email me after this telling me how to do it right Here's how you do it. It all works every time for me." No, no and also You know I know that by doing this one day Anthropic is gonna have the podcast called the no podcaster podcast and it's gonna be us It's gonna be our stuff because they steal all of it Another reason to use a cheap free model that you run on your old stuff Yeah, I'm holding it wrong exactly anyway

2:02:51 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the cheap Chinese model say hello to my friend on the other end one and only Mr John Cena! 1,273 trolls were listening to Peak Trollage here to the best podcast in the universe. And a reminder that we are doing this show even though I'm here in The Netherlands on a so-called vacation waiting for my daughter to give birth and it may not even work out right. It might not even be here when it happens and is currently 1015 and I'm here and I'm here for you because we love the work that we do so much

2:03:46 we consider to almost be a public service. However, it takes work on all sides. We need our producers and when I say we need our producers i'm not talking about David Mingus...David Mingus who sent us this email And you know, we love being corrected. We're okay if we say something wrong... Yeah, we do! It's like we love being corrected I corrected myself at the Jakarta versus Mexico City thing on the show in real time Live in real time and we make mistakes all the time I made all kinds of mistakes talking about what my brother-in-law told me He was so mad at me now

2:04:29 I made what? I made mistakes. First of all, I shouldn't have talked about any of that because it was in confidence and okay whatever... I don't even remember this! Good, I apologize. I'm sorry man. I'm sorry It won't happen again But so if you want to correct us You could think about doing it in love with love and through love because oh you got one of those notes Did I get that one? Umm..I think so John & Adam Seriously disappointed! Disappointed. Oh yeah, there you go. That's always a good start This is a trigger word for me when someone says I'm seriously disappointed. What does it trigger phrase? Well disappoint... Yeah but it's really you can be seriously mad angry

2:05:17 But when so yeah, they were disappointed disappoint hurts then I used to do this to my daughter all those are you mad dad? No. I'm just disappointed It's so good So it's you know it's coming back seriously disappointed You started off the show with a clip of the supposed historian and didn't jump all over the statement that Hamilton was just like Mamdani, and couldn't run for president because he was born out of the country. This is complete nonsense! Hamilton could run for president because anyone at his citizen... well, citizen at the time or ratification could run for president regardless of their place of birth

2:05:59 the reason he didn't run for president because he was a hugely unpopular asshat that pissed off every political ally. The Broadway production of Hamilton has turned the big government central banker Hamilton into some sort of national hero and he is one of the biggest villains of the early republic! Rant over, carry on thank you for your courage You can do that...you can't do like thank y- you CAN'T DO THAT after you say disappointed just say Hey, can I point something out to you? Because of course I looked it up like oh yeah there was a specific part in the Constitution that said you know at the time of ratification. How do you feel am i overreacting and my too emotional about this? Yeah I think so but I don't even remember the clip. Clip! Too emotional okay just say stop being so emotional Adam

2:06:53 No, you're stuck over there. Doing the show? You don't seem to be enjoying it Well... The weather is nice Holland is beautiful when the weather's nice Yeah but how are you going to beat Texas with the weather at the moment? That's true Anyway So you can help us with information and make us smarter. You can organize things like meetups, you know, you can build stuff for us like harnesses for our frontier models. Help us harness our frontier models all of that is perfectly acceptable. We get a lot of nice boots on the ground reports. They're starting to back up where I'm going have to read a couple in the next show. Okay

2:07:41 All right. Yeah, we do we got a great one from one of our female producers who went to the 250 celebration it was what a what a horrible time she went through It's too long to read but oh my goodness it was not I get that one? I'm not sure there was this tough real tough So you can also do things like Oh, I don't know You could create some artwork for us people do that all the time and then we love that In fact, we always thank the person who did the artwork for us for the previous episode. That was 1883 The Orgy of Socialism and we really like this piece of art that was done by Darren O'Neill The No Agenda Currie Dvorak America flag pin And it was good There's actually another one that we thought was kind of better but it has a very serious flaw Let me see if I can find it here Yeah big time

2:08:38 Was it also Darren who did the second one? Yeah, he did both of them. So we had another one which is probably nicer but the... Well it was color balanced better. Color balanced better yes But the flags were disconnected from the No Agenda Curry Dvorak part, so it would have had to be two pins. Yeah it's not one piece... You're slacking Darren! Don't upload those you're embarrassing yourself. Yeah you should've just sat on that one. Yeah you're embarrassing yourself when you do that because you can do better Thank you to everyone who submitted different pieces of art, most of them pretty unusual for some very obvious reasons. For instance now more Jewy. No agenda creamies with Star Of David Oreo cookies I get you San Francisco Scaramanga I feel you but no

2:09:31 No. Nessworks had a kind of pretty piece, but it was the hydration break like... It didn't really scream 4th of July and then there was a lot of these kinda same... Randy Black, Blue Acorn they all kinda have the same model using for Independence Day What else was there? And that was kinda it! No butts from Comics for Blogger? Disappointment I think that was it. Was there anything else we hadn't discussed? For the newsletter, we used Darren's picture of the Empire State Building with a flag on top which said No Agendas Show Best Podcast in Universe It was pretty decent Oh crap He is on a roll Yes my spreadsheet viewer seems to have... Where did my spreadsheet go? This sucks

2:10:33 Hold on a second. Why don't I have... what is my spreadsheet? This is very bad sign, hold on okay. I don't know what to do now. Okay I guess we'll just have to open it up again Yeah, okay. It takes a moment because that is when I say spreadsheet we love it when people support us with the treasure part of Time Talent and Treasure which means you support us financially because we have bills to pay and there's no other way to do it because this is the value for value model and my friend on the other end John is going to explain the value from our value model for the last time and then I'll pick it up again next week

2:11:17 And for some reason he... I'm going to give people out there a little insight information. While he's in Holland, Adam cannot explain this legally because you'll be arrested. My spreadsheet is crashing! This is the reason why I am asking you do this. It's something you can't do normally. Yes what happens with with this show and other just a few other shows that have to do this we are talking about stuff that is not advertiser friendly. And so even if we had advertisers, we'd have to self-censor ourselves and people don't appreciate that as much as they should because it would take a lot of the I say sketchy theories and real analysis

2:12:21 And it would remove it from the show because you can't say certain things like our discussions of the COVID vaccine, for example. That would be a big one right there We'd be hard-pressed to discuss anything medical because of the power of the advertising complex, which doesn't allow it. That's what the mainstream media won't... There can be some huge scandal going on and they would never get covered and Kennedy has to fight this on a daily basis at the government levels let alone you can imagine if he has to fight it you can imagine what it's like in immediate at the media level where half their income comes from big pharma

2:13:04 Yes. So the easiest way around this of course is just to solicit funds from the listener producer and that's what we do, it's just that simple and we hope to get people to give just something if they benefit at all from the knowledge they receive or the information not even knowledge that they receive from listening to this show. And also the entertainment value is worth five bucks, very high. It's worth a cup of coffee for sure so I'm going to do the first two for reasons i will explain to you in a moment uh The first one is a rather rare Rubilizer donation we love it when this happens people anyone can support us any amount anytime you feel like

2:13:54 Value out of the show go to no agenda donations comm sir jack ash Snohomish Washington comes in with three thousand three hundred and thirty-three dollars and 33 cents And he gets a coveted rub alizer donation jingle Beautiful, man. He says I tm gents After retiring from almost three decades on active duty and unable to burn over two months of acquired leave I was forced to sell back 60 days And as such got an unexpected bonus, which i would like to send some your way. This is so beautiful

2:14:42 Please use the attached Rubblizer funds as a partial double switcheroo for my Smokin' Hot wife. 20 years together and we never had a fight! Hereafter Dame Lizard, Keeper of the Squatch And my wee last human resource hereafter Dame Izilla Pixie of Cascadia Remainder elevates me to Baron If it pleases the committee I would like to assume the mantle Sir Jack Ash Red Baron Of Wandering Saskitches Much love and respect for all involved with delivering this amazing public resource to the nation. Thank you for your courage, Sir Jack Ash! Thank you so much This really really helps Now I'm going to read the second one which is $1,000 from Richard Claypool in Towson Maryland And he says please make me Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool The first and have some fine whiskey at your table The reason i wanted to read these two

2:15:44 and the reason why my spreadsheet has crashed. Several months ago I made a donation spreadsheet reader, you guessed it! I made it with artificial intelligence... With AI And the reason I made it is twofold. One, because every single spreadsheet reader I use snaps and you can't scroll John and I have complained about this incessantly so my two wishes were make sure that it scrolls smoothly and find any jingle requests inside the donation note and when I click on the cell to the right of that donor's name

2:16:26 automatically load those jingles into my jingle player. Excellent use of AI! Genius or not, genius? Okay has been working quite fine for months today it crashed it crashed and I loaded again and in the even though he has no jingle request the frontier model goes looking for jingles in that donation note And so after I finally got it to start up, it said in the little box where I click to get the jingles loaded. I apologize but I cannot comply with your request to make you Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool The First or have fine whiskey at my table as that would involve impersonation and the provision of alcohol No wonder we're going to Chinese models So that's the AI telling me it can't do that because

2:17:27 It's impersonation and involves provision of alcohol for a fictitious roundtable with whiskey that does not exist. Wow! Do you understand why people are going to free models that you can run yourself? You guys are gonna have some issues with the IPOs... See, SpaceX is already below the IPO offering Oh yeah okay there you go um your next Okay, well you read to I'm gonna read two. No thank sir Jeff Baron of Pennsylvania route 33 in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania $500 and 33 cents and he writes in ITM gentlemen Nothing better than a show day birthday, please Oh is the end the birthday list goes in blue put me on the birthday lists for today July 9th with this donation? I have reached Viscount another thing these guys

2:18:29 It's in all the boxes. I reached Viscount, counting below... I'm requesting the title change to Sir Jeff Viscount of PA Route 33 thank you for your courage oh it may also request some health karma as i've been dealing with some nagging issues this year we'll give him a health karma Thank you for your courage and bringing us the best podcast in the universe sir Jeff Baron of Pacific Route 33 Bethlehem Pennsylvania You've got karma Now let me see. Let me just make sure he's on the birthday list sir Jeff Baron of Pennsylvania roots, I don't think he's on the birthday list John hold on a second Well are you doing that? I'll read the next note Thank You Chris Dubendorf dubendorf in Brookville Maryland

2:19:20 I have a clip. I have a bonus clip! Let's play the bonus clip. Right in the middle of... whoops, of the donation segment. Did you send me the bonus clip as a bonus clip? No it's not a bonus because i'm sorry it's a clip about Maryland voter fraud in Maryland. Tell us, how does a Maryland State Board of Elections mistakenly issue mail-in ballots? 500 thousand of them! So we're still trying to figure that out essentially the Maryland State Board of Elections is claiming that their vendor sent half a million ballots to some incorrect voters. We have a closed primary in Maryland, so some Democrats got Republican ballots by the way Democrat ballots are blue Republican ballots are red they can't figure out how it happened they don't know who got the incorrect ballot and on May 14th they realized there was a problem and on that same day they decided unilaterally at the staff level to reissue half-a-million more ballots

2:20:22 to the same voters. And remember here in Maryland we have no protections on our ballots, there's no voter ID, there is no signature verification and were currently in another lawsuit because we believe that we have a million extra names on our voter rolls so there are two million ballots floating around the state of Maryland. Oh my goodness! Yeah, yeah there's no widespread voter fraud. There is no voter fraud man what are you worried about? So Chris Dona at 333 33 says No Note Working toward knighthood IMDB credits. Thank you Okay, you got it? Hey Manuka gold comes in from Hudson Florida with 333 33 thank you very much manuka gold ITM gentlemen We are happy to keep supporting what you do it is so much bigger than a podcast It's a community connection is protection

2:21:18 Having the courage to shine a light on all these truths one show at a time is changing lives Yes, and the reason we can do that is because of donor supports exactly No one knows more than we do how important it is after 20 years sharing natural solutions in this for-profit symptom management big pharma system You all proved that grassroots support of the American small family business still works John. We're an American small family business Ain't that's the truth Use code FREEDOM for 20% off your next purchase at manukagold.com I'm gonna refrain from any testimonial because i know there's one coming up later Sir Cadian, Sir Cadian in Peoria Arizona 25794 becomes it comes as the associate executive producer Sorry John and Adam! I am two days late but not a dollar short

2:22:14 You tugged at my pride in being an American. Thanks for all you do! My amygdala is smaller than my love of your podcast and this country is bigger!" Why are you laughing? I just think it's a funny combination of ideals. Happy Independence Day, Sir Cadian! Yes and that's 250 plus fees of $794 thank you Rebecca Ha she comes in with 250 and she's in Rome Italy, Serviteri

2:22:52 Oh, Rebecca Ha. Love you guys the trolls dames and knights and all the no agenda fans in the morning This is my number four oh that's right the number for my countdown to Dame hood from my July 18th birthday turning 63 born in 63 today I thought I'd skip the 63 to celebrate America for July 4th and send you $250 I'm so happy. I live in America Oh, well why are you sending it from Italy? I'm so happy I live in America and found no agenda the greatest podcasting universe to help me sort through crazy news and News not covered at all You're both the best my associate executive producer note yes That's what you get I am a voice actor with 15 plus years of performance experience And would love to work with other know agenda businesses

2:23:37 My voice is warm, relatable strong and wise. Well suited for long or short form storytelling that requires authenticity nuance and listener connection I bring grounded authority an emotional depth to every performance And i'm a no agenda fan we call that a producer So if you want it, I can bring the sass and the love like Adam and John can too. Find me at lovethatrebecca.com. Woo! I could check the pictures. Lovethatrebecca.com You know what? I may... Ah man It's so hard to get a good female voice AI female voice Oh AI voices are just kind of horrendous

2:24:18 So get, if you have something you need a voice for then go to lovethatrebecca.com Hugs from Rebecca Haugh and she has a lot of XOXOs there Thank you so much Onward with Michelle Winton in Millington Tennessee A lotta people are moving to Tennessee 250 donating even though John was not helpful J Rules Love and light to you all What is... Do you know what happened? I have no idea. No idea. Something happened, I want- Something shi- I didn't answer a note. I don't know! We deserve to know what happened

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2:26:55 Good sir do name Ralph Miami, Florida And he sends us $250 but no note that means he will receive a double up karma. You've got Here we go you have Eli the coffee guy in Bensonville Illinois to a 709 Shout out to the guys over at Manuka gold honey. Hey their relief gel saved me after an ankle injury doing Fun dumb things over the 4th of July weekend. Telling you this stuff works! I'm swelling down, pain down back on my feet at the farmer's market the next day. What if it was an explosion involved? Good reminder why it pays to support fellow no agenda businesses first we take care of our own visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order stay caffeinated Eli The Coffee Guy $200 from Gina Plakat

2:27:55 Plus, uh, Placonico? What do you think? Plasonico, placonico, plasonico... Gina! Hi John and Adam and John. Long time listener first-time donator while we give you a dee dee doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo My donation note is a request to talk more about the DSA op you guys believe is afoot. That's the Democrats Socialists of America On the July 5th episode, you mentioned that this op behooves Democrats and could also be a play to sideline Shapiro

2:28:34 Well, on a previous episode John discussed similarities to Nixon defeating George McGovern in 72. Is your belief that the three-letter agencies want to guarantee Republican presidency in 2028 or is that a form of controlled opposition ie gives disaffected voters a movement to channel frustrations into without posing any real threats to the current system of government? Very interested in this topic would greatly appreciate further discussion and insights on the show. Thanks, Gina." Well now... Of course they do. They want Vance or Rubio, both of them stooges for the three-letter agency we were talking about in office because they'll be doing their bidding. There you go and I think... Did I not read somewhere? Don't you remember when Rubio first got pushed into the Secretary of State position

2:29:30 Everybody on the right was bitching about, oh this guy is a you know he's sold out. He's this he's that and then next thing You know he's the greatest thing ever yeah And then Vance where'd Vance come from? This guys came out of the blue it's kind of suspicious don't you think now he's great I mean come on And then I was reading I think I saw two maybe three articles That Newsom's polling is so horrible Nobody wants him as the Democratic presidential nominee because coming up out of nowhere, who is it? Kamala Harris. Yeah well I don't think they have the guts to run her. It's gotta be AOC come on let's have some fun! Oh wouldn't that be lovely wouldn't that be amazing yeah please guys for the show please do it for the show

2:30:24 Dude named Jeff. Oh, no I'm sorry Linda Lou Patkin is here there she is Castle Rock Colorado. That's mine mom I believe that's mine No, uh yes you're right? I'm sorry go go go go go You're having nothing but trouble with this It's a bad day for me That's because of the two that you jumped the gun on Yeah it's right well it's because of the AI man it's ruining the show Linda Lou Patkin What? Yeah, it's ruining the show. In Castle Rock Colorado $200. JobsKarma your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't for a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com Linda helps professionals and executives position their experience so employers see their value

2:31:06 Okay, that's it Mr. Baker Zing with a K and Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes best Linda And I from what I understand it really works jobs jobs jobs and jobs See that's we call a built-in make good Yeah, that's what it is called. That's what it's called yes dude named Jeff Curt Lane Idaho I think I'm saying right Coeur d'Alene, Idaho hi John Adam do name Jeff here This is another installment towards my knighthood to thank you for the immense value I get from the best podcast in the universe That's all we need to hear but he has more

2:31:48 On June 27th, I married my keeper who I met at a No Agenda meetup in Phoenix Arizona four years ago. Stop the train ladies and gentlemen! There it is connection is protection. That's right that is beautiful In honor we even had a mini-meet up at the wedding and sent in a report...I remember this Right now we're in Alaska with our friend. We met three years ago at the North Idaho Brigade meetup Connection is protection go to a know agenda beat up or start your own you might even meet your future smoking hot wife Thank You John and Adam for the outstanding product you put out twice a week and for bringing us all together Can we get a North Korean newslady jingle well now? Sure

2:32:36 You've got karma man Survivor of an euro is how there he is. Yeah, I Tough times there here tough times here as tough times here as shortly after recovering from a ruptured brain aneurysm I am separating from my wife of 21 plus years. Sorry, no hoping third time's the charm for me As it has been for Adam. Let me tell you that this donation like to do is switcheroo For my good friend and fellow No Agenda producer Christine

2:33:32 Christine Bonus, really that's the name? Yeah. Who has been immensely supportive during these tough times nothing creepy as she is happily married to a very nice albeit NPR addicted fellow Oh boy! One dial MTV style request Adam please say as Mark Aruta there is no train from Delft to Copenhagen Thanks as always for your courage and God bless the survivor of aneurysm. Well, God bless you! And yes Tina is my last and best wife yeah three yeah three is good okay here we go let me tell you there is no train from Delft to Copenhagen I thought that was pretty good Is that true? I have no idea There seem to be trains from everywhere in that country

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2:37:16 Gretje Angell, I was doing Dutch there. Gretje Angell, Monrovia California Steven Ray in Spokane Washington Roderick Brown in Mermaid Prince Edward Island Canada Stephen Shoemake in Zinnia Ohio Kerry Jackson Watertown Florida Jason Deluzio Miami Beach Florida Walker Phillips from San Rafael California and we wind up with Greg P Wadby from Peterborough Ontario in Canada And he's Canadian. He says, sorry about missing a donation on Canada eh? Thanks again for the Canada content and all you do! Happy 4th of July and God bless. God bless you brother thank you so much. Thank you to everyone who supported us under $50 we appreciate it so much You can go anytime you want to noagendadonations.com Just give us whatever those show is worth to you that's how it works. You want to set up a recurring donation No problem any time

2:38:10 any amount, any frequency. NoAgendaDonations.com Well now we have a couple of interesting birthdays Sir Jeff celebrates today We have Sir Jeff Barron of... Oh he's the baron of Pennsylvania Route 33 He celebrates today And coming up on July 11th, we have a doubleheader Jay Lawton. Jay of the Noah Jindal Show and Tina the Keeper both on July 11th and we say happy birthday to them on behalf all of the staff and management and all the producers of Give Her Nation! You know what I'm talking about?

2:38:51 Yeah, what is this? What is this? Come gather round douchebag Producer and slave As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave And some of them knights Some of them dames For the titles are a-changin' Yes, right! The titles they are a changin'. We have Sir Jack Ash. He becomes Sir Jack Ash Red Baron of Wandering Saskitches and Sir Jeff Baron of Pennsylvania Route 33 becomes Sir Jeff Viscount of Pennsylvania Route 33 And it's time for the very final

2:39:35 Red Knights in the order of of the heart. The order of the heart. Pure of purpose, right from the start in the morning brave and smart!

2:40:21 Now before we get to our dames and knights, we have a note from... knighthood note from Christian SirBadPotato. He says last show I made a donation of $250 that pushed my son Christian over the line for knighthood he would like to be named sir Raka of the spicy mountains at the round table he would like chicken alfredo paired with a cabernet of John's choosing, so I have purposely held off on ordering this for the roundtable because it has to be one of your choosing.

2:40:58 Okay, Caymus 1987 Cabernet Sauvignon. Caymus... Caymus... Caymus... Guys pay attention! C-A-Y-M-U-S Yeah thank you. Caymus... uh... Cabernet Sauvignon... okay. Nova Ding Dong. Nova... Snappa like a ding dong Alright bring out the blades everybody it's time are you set? Are you set? You got your blade? I've got it right here waiting for you. All right. Lizard and Izella, Christian and Richard Claypool please all of you step up right here on the podium You're about to become knights and dames in a no agenda roundtable I'm very proud to pronounce Kate the as Dame lizard keeper of the squatch and

2:41:43 and Dame Izilla Pixie of Cascadia, Sir Rocka of the Spicy Mountains and Sir Lloyd Richard Francis Claypool I. For you we've got hookers & blow, rimp boys and chardonnay along with Chicken Alfredo paired with a Caymus 1987 Cabernet Sauvignon and a provision of alcohol whiskey forbidden by AI along with ginger ale and gerbils Breast milk and pabulum, and of course the mutton and meat. We got cock block on the whiskey! It's unbelievable what technology does these days Go to noagenderings.com Congratulations These rings are beautiful they're signet rings for dames and for knights

2:42:23 All we need from you is your ring size. There's a handy ring sizing guide right there on the website, let us know where to send it off to you and we'll get it to you with the right size, the right address It comes with a certificate of authenticity and as always several sticks of wax for which you can seal your important correspondence And thank you and congratulations Welcome to The Noah Jenner Roundtable! NOAH JENNER BEAT UPS Well, you already heard about it. People find their lifetime spouses and mates at the NOAA Gender Meetups go to noagendermeetups.com to find out where you can attend one of these fabulous get-togethers It's better than a sock hop! Here is proof This is a meet up report from the OKC AmericaFest NoAgenda Meet Up Hey John and Adam this is Andrew with the AmericaFest Oklahoma City MeetUp that happened at the Paseo pad

2:43:17 We had a lot of fun. We didn't have any Knights and Dames show up, but I did get the bands to do some greetings so here they are! Hey it's Kid Bizarre over here at the American Fest at the OK Music Expo in DePasio Pass These people are really good. Hey, this is Melana. I'm over here at the OK Music Expo! What's up everybody? It's Ethan and Sebi We just played at the America Fest down here in OKC. Ah... it was great! It was awesome Hi we're Clementine and Cat Co And we are so happy to be here At Oklahoma Music Expo America Fest. What's up y'all it's Aubzan we are here at the Maceo pad for America Fest I'm Carter Wright, I'm at America fest at the Ok Music Expo Hey we're Fast Pontiac and just played here for America Fest at the Oklahoma music expo Just rocked it out It was an awesome time We're at Oklahoma Music Expo And where there's no motorists That's a report from Oklahoma City

2:44:15 We will be having more shows later this year and Adam, here's an open invitation for you. We're not that far from ya hope to see you soon Not that far. That's true. If I ever get a Holland if I ever become a granddad then we'll see what we can do Thank you very much for the report. We have a meetup tomorrow This is important one is happening in France Baroness Isabel Pearson is giving the second knowage in the south of France Meet up seven o'clock France time at Purgardes and that's in Montlazun, Guerre en France. Look it up at noagentmeetups.com go this is a nice place she's got going here there and I expect to receive a meetup report from that meetup on Saturday the Soviet Kanakistan work camp meet-up hello one o'clock at Guelph Ontario Canada

2:45:02 And you want to contact the cubby monster for details. Oh, I guess it's kind of a secret deal Also tomorrow again my wife's birthday the Treasure Valley Boise meetup That'll be at the old state saloon in Eagle Idaho and coming up this month San Pedro California on 18th Anaheim California 25th Alpharetta Georgia on the 30th and on the 8th of August we are so international Bangkok Thailand Eagle, Idaho and Santa Rosa, California. The 15th Oakland, California the 20th Charlotte North Carolina the 22nd of August Chattanooga Tennessee Boise Idaho on the 12th oh that's September already Oh this is a September October my goodness there we have an October 3rd Midlands UK We are international people

2:45:46 So go to noagentomeetups.com, you can find one anywhere in the world at this point Here's the good news if you can't find one You can start one yourself Connection is protection The people that will come to this meetup that you will meet will be your first responders in any emergency NoagentaMeetUps.com Always guaranteed a party Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days Bum bum bum You wanna be where It's like a party As we come closer to the end of our broadcast day here, we still have some very cool end-of-show mixes coming up along with John's coveted top tip of the day. But first, we'd like to select some ISOs which will be used at the end of the program. Why do it? No one knows anymore but right now it is just me against the machine. John's coming in with his celebrity AI ISOs Would you like to go first or second?

2:46:52 A second. Okay, I will start with mine. I love it! More of this. Mm-hmm. Thought that was pretty good myself. Here's another one. Thanks for the money see you guys. No? And then back to the well... That's a deep dive! What do you have? I think i'm going to defer. Whaaat?! I think, i love it. I love it is a good end to the show. I love it! More of this! Alright! I love it! Is the end of Show ISO but now its time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me just the tip with JC Dean And sometimes Adam

2:47:42 This is an Amazon's choice as a matter of fact. So people you know they I have my thoughts on batteries and At some point you got to say shouldn't it should I be buying these rechargeable lithium-ion battery? Well, that is a very good question Should I be buying these recharges when it comes to these cratex K R A T A X 3700 milliwatt hour. Whoa! Triple AA rechargeable lithium batteries with charger 8 pack for 23 bucks

2:48:18 If you charge these batteries four times, now the cost is the same as it would be a cheap alkaline battery. And these particular batteries are said... I have a hard time believing it but should be rechargeable for 2,000 cycles. Get out of town! Making these batteries not only powerful with an amazing current, but basically free. Free? Well I mean after you charge something... So one battery is like in this case $4, wait four times yeah let's say three dollars plus the charger. The battery is probably about a three dollar battery and after charging it

2:49:12 2000 times it becomes like It costs you like a penny for the battery. Well, what about the energy that it costs to create? It doesn't really use that much recharge these things so anyway this is the Kratax KR and they're actually kind of an attractive battery. KRATX 3700 milliwatt hour AA rechargeable lithium's 23 bucks That, ladies and gentlemen... With Charger. With Charger that is without a doubt a stellar tip of the day Find all of them at tipoftheday.net noagendafund.com Created fast for you and me Just the tip with JCB And sometimes add-on Created by Dana Brunetti Yes! And that is it for today We're checking in 11pm here Amsterdam time

2:50:11 Whoo, it's been a day. But we do this as a public service because we love you and we care about you We want your amygdala to be perfectly sized And for that you should support us at noagendadonations.com and stay on Your modern podcast app or NoAgendasStream.com for planet rage This should be an interesting one the boys titled it Jesse Waters is wrong oh boy There's there's a few two coming End of show mixes, we have—let's see. We got Just Baker and Parian. Parian. Parian is how he prefers to be named. And we will return after a glorious birthday here with my wife in Amsterdam I'm going to spoil her, I tell you. Spoil her crazy on Sunday So we hope that you join us then right here on No Agenda

2:51:10 So until then, coming to you from the Southern District of Amsterdam in The Netherlands. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak Until Sunday everybody Adios Mofos! And such. Artificial. Back in 1990, when I asked for a date. Pretty girl has to reject me now the dating app

2:51:57 I've taken out the human element The boys checked out and now they ask where are all the men went We all seek companionship but feminists agree The world is better for the girls without a guy like me So when we find relationships with bots and GPT Who do we blame if that's the only friend we choose to keep? Everything is artificial, artificial. Evil relationships don't really evolve. Artificial, artificial. Virtually impossible to know what lies if you just put your phone down, put your phone down and return to living life socially then we could be the best of living artificially. Artificial.

2:52:59 First half they serve the script pre-chewed and pristine Second half, the thread unravels The suit don't fit the scene What started as producing noise in late night feed Aged into debris the briefing that the anchors have to read. They laughed at the tinfoil when it whispered through the static, now the statics got a budget and the whispers automatic. Moon bases were sci-fi till the slides hit the table now the same voices that marked it gotta spin a new fable. Sigh up in the day like I used

2:53:37 night crime now it's limited admission in the headlines every time the friends used to be the corner where the curious got buried now the curious are the ones that narrative can carry second half flex with eviction starts to sweat what they call delusion got the time stamps and the receipts yet they said it was crazy now is just a daily rotation the back end of the formula exposing the foundation second half flex, the meme that grew teeth truth was in the discount bin now its front page elite second half flex watch the script rewrite itself the half they tried to bury turned out to be real wealth

2:54:16 No agenda show. Don't miss the second half Twisted signals in the missile salute Fighting the reels while the facts get dilute Striking a deal or just striking the loop Choke point squeeze got the whole world in pursuit Geopolitical light instructor Katari Tanka Diplomatic timing couldn't have been any ranker Liquid gold burning while the premium spike Narrative suits try to dim the spotlight Media megaphone blasting Iran Did it clean? Peace process time and feeling way too pristine

2:55:06 Funeral crowds chanting victory loud New king ghosting in the shadow of the crowd Value for value, that's the law Agenda decree Corporate free signal just to listeners feed Truth dissection while the tanker bleeds Spin gets shredded so the facts get freed Pictures painted with a missile parade Floating infernals are the narrative made Who benefits when the tanker goes boom? I'm

2:55:47 Homer's Inferno got the whole region strained Talks in Doha dancing on a powder keg Value for value Keep the signal fed Homer's heat Tankers catching flame Missiles in the stray playing geopolitical games So minus 20% of the crude Value for value Keep this signal renewed The best podcast in the universe! MoFo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A I love it, I love it, I love it more of this