23:15 You guys are just, but I looked at my BI. He donated a couple of years ago. We're not getting anyone donating during this day. I'm blaming Trump for the low donations mainly because until he gets his Iran Iran's they were on their own thing over Iran. Yes. No, no, no, no, yeah, that's not it. Yeah. No we need to do. We needed new president. We needed Democrat president We're just like the oil guys. There's no difference between us and the oil bearer." And you know, so something happened on The Joe Rogan Show... I saw this a week or so ago and I was like yeah right on! Now Theo Vaughn, You know Theo Vaughn right? Do you know who he is? I don't watch his stuff. No but you know Theo. So Theo was on Joe's show
24:10 I don't know. Joe was on Theo's show and Theo was on J- yeah, okay. No, Theo was on Joe's show it must have been four or five weeks ago and Theo Vaughan was out of his gourd he was like... Gour? Wow there's a phrase i haven't heard for oh let me think 66! It's the phrase that pays baby so he was.. There is an old Jonathan Winter saying how old it is Okay well the thousand year old man So, oh this Carl Reiner I thought that was, oh okay. I thought he was with Jonathan. Let's not talk about his dead communities. No no it was Karl Reiner and Mel Brooks who is a thousand year old man. Okay all right thank you So he was nuts He was spiraling like Israel! They're the terrorists! And Joe was sitting there like dude You should come and work out with us Come hang out with us Theo Vonn was really going nutty
25:11 And Theo has, he's a lovely guy I'm sure. He has all kinds of issues don't we all? Like what? Ah he's had addiction issues... Right now he's been trying Jesus which are all praying for Theo in that regard but there was something else and it is SSRIs And Theo is I think he's even been vocal about it that he takes, you know whatever Lexapro whatever it is. Whatever the brand du jour is It's all the same stuff and so Joe's on his show talking about
25:47 Talking to some other guests and here's what he says. Yeah, Theo Vons going through the exact same thing And last time I was on the podcast He was explaining it to me and it freaks me out because I know Theos had conversations before like even publicly he had a Netflix taping and It didn't go well. It was like they actually Never they shelved it. They never used it You know there was all these stories from people that were there saying he bombed I think he just had a kind of a breakdown And when he was talking to the crowd and there's a video over we said you know that people are shaking hey We still love you. Thank you look. I'm just I'm trying not to take my own life That's what I'm trying to do right now, and like you hear stuff like that. He's like oh Jesus Christ I've known too many people That I didn't think were gonna kill themselves and then did and then he goes down these spirals where he starts
26:37 talking about world events and freaking out. I'm like, oh Jesus Christ, like I gotta help this dude and so I send him things about people getting off of them and apparently there's some doctors that specialize in getting people off them but here's the thing about that chemical imbalance thing? That's not real. They used to think that was what these things do, that they treated a chemical imbalance but then recently studies have shown that is not what they do They don't exactly know what they do. And they kind of numb you in some sort of a way that helps some people." So, I even texted Joe and like thank you for saying that this chemical imbalance lie that they throw on everybody which is total horse crap say way to go excellent job this is bad thing people can get off them doctors are handing out like candy and then Joe does something I don't think ever seen him do he did an apology
27:37 But I don't think this was just an apology for Theo Vaughn. I think the pushback he got from his audience was so severe... And Joe is, Joe really doesn't like controversy about himself? No he really doesn't! Yeah You know, he's always very cautious and I know him this way He doesn't really want anyone to be mad A lot of people just don't Right, just don't Yeah. And if you listen carefully to this apology that now he said this was an apology for Theo, but I kind of had the feeling it was an apology for more than
28:16 than just Theo, more for SSRIs and other things. I apologize to Theo he knows i love him and we he said that and we laughed and we joked around about it and I apologize for the way as I talked about this but I felt like I need to explain to other people too to get what was going on in my mind out and it certainly wasn't like covering for Israel and it certainly wasn't trying to paint him out like he's damaged or Treat him like a child. I just want them to be okay and When you're dealing with someone or you when you have like had experience dealing with someone that what where it winds up going very badly And then you're just left with this feeling like what could I have done? You know, I didn't do a good job of it, you know Especially like the Marcus King thing like that's terrible what he goes on and on about this I think the audience freaked out on him I think you
29:15 Our audience our producers go yeah, but here's what I did to get off of them. Yeah They do they didn't you know and like my leg? Anybody pushing back on no No But I think men that must be the size of the audience who I think a lot of people freaked out because it's a harsh reality When someone is telling you the truth he said he told that what I believed to be a medical fact They don't know how it works They don't. And this chemical imbalance thing is a lie, it's a sales pitch It's the rationale and I think also some of the Israel people got mad at them like well you're covering for Israel by saying Theo is just nuts on drugs whatever There's an element to that so That we do get Yeah all the time
30:03 But it was just surprising. I'm like, wow! The pressure must be really big. We don't... First of all we never got any pushback on that only people who agree It's a small group. We have this 10th as audience, so what are you going to do? Well if that it is a small group I think we're... I don't know! I really don't know. I don't think anybody knows exactly how big the audience some say ten eleven twelve twenty millions hundred million they got five hundred million dollars whatever it's all I think tens sounds about right talking about disasters and didn't back up my prediction