Episode 1871 · Sunday, 24 May 2026

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A reported breakthrough in the Persian Gulf meets skepticism as the DNC grapples with a scathing election autopsy and the intelligence community faces a leadership vacuum.

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Donald Trump announced a breakthrough peace deal with Iran via Truth Social, though Iranian state media and the BBC remain skeptical of a formal ceasefire. Secretary of State Marco Rubio indicates progress on uranium enrichment and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, while Pakistan’s army chief facilitates high-stakes mediation in Tehran. The potential 60-day memorandum of understanding aims to lift U.S. blockades and release frozen assets amid leadership transitions in the Iranian government.

The U.S. Treasury Department recently froze $500 million in cryptocurrency linked to the Iranian regime as Tehran attempts to launch a Bitcoin-based insurance platform for cargo ships. Domestically, DNC Chairman Ken Martin faces resignation calls following a 192-page election autopsy that critics say fails to address Kamala Harris’s disconnect with rural voters. In Kentucky, Representative Thomas Massie suffered a primary defeat after opposing the SAVE Act, while Senator John Cornyn faces backlash for maintaining the Senate filibuster against MAGA-aligned voter ID legislation. Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security issued a memo requiring non-immigrants to return home to apply for green cards, signaling a major shift in visa processing.

Retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward became the center of a bizarre conspiracy theory involving hyper-realistic masks during a Fox News appearance, which the hosts attribute to aggressive studio lighting. ABC News correspondent Selena Wang faced ridicule for mistaking White House gunfire for fireworks during a live report. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announced her resignation to care for her husband, leaving Aaron Lucas as the acting director during the ongoing Persian Gulf crisis.


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CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

Gaylord Opryland Hotel, K-Love Music Awards, Technical Issues

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Nashville, Tennessee, where Curry is attending the K-Love Music Awards at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel. Curry describes the "biodome" environment of the hotel and a worship service led by Pastor Levi Lusko. Technical difficulties are noted, including a failing SSD drive and the transition to using a Roadcaster Pro on Linux.

nashville· gaylord opryland hotel· k-love music awards· contemporary christian music· levi lusko· ssd failure

00:00 She's a Chinese spy! Doing the Bundy Bugyo and broadcasting live from the live music capital of the world, Nashville Tennessee in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley... Oh! I'm sorry it's a refinery row We wish everybody a happy Memorial Day I am John C. Borak It's Craig Vaught and Buzzkill! In the morning. You know, by the time you smooth this shit... Smooth it? Nailed it By the time you get home, you'll be saying refinery road I don't know where I am Yeah, you won't know anything Oh man I don't know anything now Here I am in the bio dome in Nashville Tennessee What's a bio dome? Uh better known as The Gaylord Opryland Hotel

00:59 Yeah, if you've never... Why is it called a biodome? Because you're entirely enclosed in a dome. Oh I've been to that place once yeah right You know what i'm talking about And so it could be raining could be sunny- you don't know! It's a constant like 70 degrees 72 degrees And everywhere you go, you're just inside the biodome. Yeah it's big! It's troubling once you realize I've been in this biodome for three days...it's a bit much so Yeah, since you asked we are here for the K-Love Music Awards. The big gay love of music awards! That's right! K-love is... they own pretty much every single contemporary Christian music radio station in the country although I don't know if that's going to benefit them long term but they do have streams

01:54 And so every top name in the Nashville music business is here performing live, doing worship services. Performing live! Doing worship services... We had a great service this morning with Bethel Worship. No I mean it's music like you get two three thousand people we're all worshipping and the great pastor from his name is Levi Lusko He's from Montana, but originally from California. Did a great message and so we're just getting our buckets filled here. What was his message? His message was what to do when you're spiraling

02:32 And it was good. It would have worked for... Were you spiraling? No, but I mean we've all spiraled at some point You've never spiraled? I don't know what that means Where you just feel bad, you're down, depressed, not doing well People feel bad all the time John's in a constant spiral Exactly Now before We get started. I don't think this has ever happened to me on an airplane before, i've been recognized for you know all kinds of different things from my... You were called out by the at the beginning and they sang a song to you happy birthday? No they didn't uh so i'm kind of i'm like half asleep i'm listening i got the hearing aids in so you couldn't tell that i was listening to anything

03:16 And I'm listening to Tucker Carlson go on and on and on about the Jews in Israel. And so, you know, like drifting off and then I feel a hand on my arm... ...and I hear... Hold on a second let me turn of my phone here. ITM! It was Audra our flight attendant on our Delta flight to Nashville And I don't think I've ever, ever had a flight attendant come up to me and throw one in the morning at me. Nice! Yeah and she's like, I've been listening for six years... ...I love what you guys are doing You've been so great, you've been so helpful. And then her colleague Carla was like Man, I gotta listen to your podcast because Audra is jumping up and down She can't believe it that she has met you guys So it was really nice

04:04 You got an extra listener. That's what counts and we got extra peanuts yeah one at a time Oh, you get free both for me Yeah, so I wanted to say so your Tom about some some issues she had with the gear oh man I had a drive fail an SSD drive. Solid state? Yeah, solid state! Although it was like half failing and then it kind of came back up but that screws up a lot of things when that happens so then you gotta plug in the other drive You got to remap everything I got the road gear although its been...I mean this It's Linux remember Its amazing any of this stuff works But here is functioning knock on wood Holy Spirit take us through the whole day We'll be good

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Donald Trump, Iran Peace Deal, BBC Analysis

Donald Trump announced on Truth Social that a peace deal with Iran has been largely negotiated, though Iranian state media and the BBC express skepticism. Secretary of State Marco Rubio suggests progress is being made regarding uranium enrichment and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. The hosts analyze the conflicting reports and the lack of concrete evidence regarding a formal ceasefire or blockade lifting.

donald trump· iran· strait of hormuz· marco rubio· bbc· nuclear weapons

04:51 So, yeah. And it's good to be on the air with you as it were now. Well? Well the first thing I'd like to say is that apparently the vice president had to turn around and come right back to DC President Trump didn't go to his son's wedding in The Bahamas even though he was already married but the wedding ceremony because it sounds like we have a deal We've got a deal. Yeah, another deal and I saw you had clips so i'm trusting that you've got uh clips about the deal? I got the deal analyzed some of the deals The deal is this so-called the deal that's in trump. I believe it's in trump's mind well first of all we kind of expected a deal to be here around june 1st because We need to have this all cleared up by the big 250th celebration on july 4th. We can't have

05:51 a war when we're doing the big celebration. So, so he knew it was going to happen but you think the deal is not a deal? I don't think it's a deal yet and they're kind of wishy-washy about it and but you know this might be getting close but you know this is supposed to have taken place what he said this whole thing's gonna go six weeks at the grid 11 weeks now something like that And so you know, hold on. Hold on. It was only six weeks of actual fighting all the rest has just been ceasefire Oh yeah that's right what am I thinking? So get it right man! So let's play the...I have four clips and there are three of them analysis clips and one is a basic BBC clip which i thought would be the place to go Iran Trump BS deal oh I called it a BS deal. There ya go.

06:44 President Trump has said an agreement with Iran to end the war has largely been negotiated. He made the announcement on social media, Peter Bowes reports Mr.. Mr.. Mr.. Trump posting his true social platform The first guy said president trumpet this other guy comes in and he calls a mr.. Trump Which is it which is a note of disrespect? Well everyone's doing it now It's President Trump. Yeah, they'll never... They can't get that out of their mouth! Well the first guy did. For a second there. They're editorializing I'm sure the script says Mr. Trump Anyway, we continue.

07:42 But he warned that if a deal could not be reached, no country would ever be hit as hard as they're about to be. Contradicting Donald Trump's statements the Iranian news agency Fars which is close to the Revolutionary Guard Corps says the Strait of Hormuz would remain under Iranian control. Well this is the BBC! The BBC is going run their line of talk Of course they've been funding the whole operation for From the Muslim Brotherhood and the Lloyds of London, and the City of London. Of course they don't want any deal! They're just talking the talk I'm sure they don't want any deal but here we go with analysis clip one We start with President Trump's claim on social media that the US is close to reaching a peace deal with Iran after weeks in which their shaky ceasefire has hung in the balance

08:33 Just days ago he was threatening to attack Iran again. In his post Mr Trump said the deal had been largely negotiated, was being finalised and would be announced shortly He also said the Strait of Hormuz would soon be reopened This comes after Pakistan's army chief went to Tehran to hold talks with Iranian officials and after Mr. Trump then held a call with Arab allies in which Pakistan as the key mediator also took part, and he held a separate call with Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu The US president said both calls had gone very well Earlier his Secretary of State Marco Rubio who's visiting India also struck an optimistic note when talking to journalists

09:18 There's been some progress done, some progress made. Even as I speak to you now there is some work being done. There is a chance that whether it's later today or tomorrow in a couple days we may have something to say but this issue needs to be solved as the president said one way or another Iran can never have nuclear weapon The straits need to open without tolls They need to turn over their enriched uranium they're highly enriched uranium We need to address that Oh! You catch that? Yeah, he corrected himself from enriched uranium to highly enriched uranium. Yeah that means something That's it that's a deal point there Hey give us your highly enriched whatever that is and you can keep your in risk 60% stuff yeah The other Iran can never have a nuclear weapon the straits need to be open without tolls

10:03 They need to turn over their enriched uranium, they're highly enriched uranium. We need to address that issue we need to address the issue of enrichment these are the president's points consistently and his preference is always to deal with it in a diplomatic way Our North America correspondent Peter Bowes gave us his assessment Here how that works Hey sign the deal or I'll blow you to smithereens! Of whether this means an end to the war is in sight Well, with the caveat that we've heard positive statements before from the president about a potential deal with Iran this does look as if there is perhaps some sort of breakthrough in the making although the mood music from Iran is somewhat different. So far zero analysis just calling our President Mr Trump they've given nothing so far

10:55 Yeah, and that's what you're gonna end up with. Yes statement because there's nothing to analyze let's face it Essentially Trump is saying what he feels like saying yeah And there's no evidence that anything is going on whatsoever The blockade still going on and keeps any say well right away to an extreme who is blocking as far As I'm concerned we're blocking We're blocking your luckier blocking yeah where whose blocking? We're blocking they're not blogging walking. We're blocking So we're blocking all the ships and they're shooting at any that sneak by. And I feel bad for the people that are shipped, you know the sailors that are on these vessels they can't eat. There's no food... No! They're getting them out. Yes, we're getting the worst reporting in the world. A couple of guys sneaking out at night in the dead of night. We're still escorting ships out. Oh pshh! Yes, we have no reporting nowhere

11:52 Who's boots on the ground there? Nobody. We need some more boots on the ground from our side, okay here we go part two. Saying that as far as they're concerned gaps remain As far as the latest talks are concerned that The issue of a nuclear weapon also the Strait of Hormuz hasn't been part of the current round of talks and in fact just in the last few minutes Iran is saying that the Strait of Hormuz will remain under its... Now when they say Iran is saying Is there a mouth on the country that is opening up and going here's what we're saying? Is it, is it on Twitter? Is it on X? Is it the IRGC?

12:32 Who is Iran at this point? Who is talking? MI6. Management, nevertheless we had this quite long a lengthy statement true social statement from the president within the last hour and this in part is what he has to say He says an agreement has been largely negotiated subject of finalization between the United States of America on the Islamic Republic of Iran and other countries And he goes on, separately I had a call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu of Israel which likewise went very well. And then he says final aspects and details of the deal are currently being discussed and will be announced shortly so i think significantly there we have no mention of nuclear weapons which is still at the heart of this issue as far as President Trump is concerned.

13:24 Of course there's no mention of nuclear weapons because they never had a nuclear weapon. All we're hearing about is the dust, the dust! That's the enriched uranium that's... They don't have a nuclear weapon. They have an enriched or highly enriched uranium so now the BBC after just hearing that from Rubio are saying, we haven't heard anything about a nuclear weapon. ...concerned he says that the Strait of Hormuz will be open but as we're already hearing that is being disputed by Iran so perhaps just tentatively very tentatively we might be moving towards some sort of breakthrough but this certainly isn't a deal to end the war right now okay all right some sort of breakthrough but it's not a deal but we don't know anything with the BBC

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Pakistan Mediation, Iranian Leadership, 60-Day Ceasefire Negotiations

Pakistan's army chief is acting as a key mediator between the United States and Iran, facilitating talks in Tehran. Reports from BBC Persian suggest the discussions center on a memorandum of understanding for a 30 to 60-day ceasefire to negotiate the lifting of U.S. blockades and the release of frozen assets. Uncertainty remains regarding who is officially speaking for the Iranian government following recent leadership changes.

pakistan· tehran· ismail baghaieh· mullahs· memorandum of understanding· shia

14:12 There's a couple of things that are interesting in this. Is it Pakistan seems to be playing the real role here? Yes, yes I agree And Pakistan also has been a safe haven for much of the Iranian Air Force It turns out that they, yeah. They said they opened their bases up to Iran during the initial bombing saying if you're worried about your jets getting blowed up because they're pretty... Park them here. Park him here yes all good and so they have a lot of Iran's gear in Pakistan which so Pakistan has some leverage in that regard well yeah there are also the front men for China which is

14:56 the country that really needs this. But the sticking point here seems still to be the basic thesis of the Sunnis versus the Shia and Pakistanis are not Shia, they're Sunnis and so they're not subscribing to this 12th Imam theory and a end of the world thesis that the Iranians seem to be all jacked about. Well, not the Iranians but some of them It's not all of Iran. Yeah, the mullahs? Yeah the mullahs if whoever still we don't know anything Not we don't know who's running a place We don't and you know what I don't think anybody is running in that place right now No it's some dude with an ex account

15:46 Look at me, look at me. Hey watch me post this see what the BBC says next. Well much of the impetus for this latest attempt to strike a deal seems have come from the Pakistani army chief's visit to Tehran and his talks there with Iranian officials to try to bridge the huge gaps between the two sides so what did they discuss? Here is Kazra Nagy from BBC Persian The newly appointed spokesman for Iran's negotiating team says the discussions centered on a memorandum of understanding. Okay, so this annoys me! The newly appointed spokesman? Who is he?! This is BBC Persia... Persian I think she said. Shouldn't they be telling us who was talking now?

16:32 Yep. And this is the BBC, which is you know the great journalist at the BBC? They should be telling us or giving us some details son! Anything! At least when we're talking to the press if you know it's our vice president our new press secretary come on We're doing better. The newly appointed spokesman for Iran's negotiating team says that discussions centered on a memorandum of understanding something that will extend the ceasefire and pave the way for a 30 to 60 day period of detailed negotiations between Iran and the United States. Ismail Baghaieh has been telling Iran's state television that the main issues under discussion are ending the war, the lifting of the US blockade of Iranian ports, and the release of Iran's frozen assets in

17:23 Hold on a second. So this 30 to 60 days, this hasn't come out of the mouths of US spokesholes as far as I'm concerned? I don't know where this came from but this is kind of the narrative I'm hearing every well according to what everyone's been hearing it's 30 to 60 days we're gonna it'll be a ceasefire not really going to hammer it out yeah and but who who was the progenitor of that where did that come from other than BBC Persian We don't know. They did mention somebody's name in there very casually it was impossible to tell. Really? Hold on a second I missed it then hold on. And the United States Ismail Barre has been telling Iran's... Right there, Ismail Barre who is that guy? It's blah blah blah blah I couldn't understand him. Troll room help who was Ismail Barre? The United States

18:14 Ismail Baghai has been telling Iran's state television that the main issues under discussion are ending the war, the lifting of the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports and the release of Iran's frozen assets in banks abroad. But significantly, he does not mention anything about Iran's nuclear program or Iran ending its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. Something that is an urgent priority for the American side. Hardliners in Tehran are opposed to relinquishing control over the Strait of Hormuz in return for lifting up the U.S. blockade on Iranian poors a trade-off which could see the opening this vital international waterway

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

Financial War, Shipping Insurance, Strait of Hormuz Tolls

The conflict in the Persian Gulf is characterized as a financial war involving maritime insurance and shipping blockades. While the U.S. claims CENTCOM is enforcing a blockade to prevent commerce, Iran is reportedly attempting to implement a tolling system for vessels entering the Strait of Hormuz. Thousands of sailors remain trapped on commercial vessels due to the ongoing stalemate and lack of insurance coverage.

lloyds of london· maritime insurance· centcom· marco rubio· strait of hormuz· shipping

19:00 Yeah, so I'm looking at the troll room for some help and all i see is trolls arguing about Liz Cheney. Are you guys even listening? What's Liz Cheney? I don't know they're not even... Is Liz Cheney in the news? They're not even listening to the show! They are just in there arguing with each other. Liz Cheney?! One-upping each other. Did she die!? No, it's all about midterms election Florida we gonna win we gonna lose its no good everyone unipartay simmer down Donna Summer Paul Couture, he's very active these days. Paul Couture? Yes sir Paul Couture He showed up in the troll room a couple of like two weeks ago and started trolling hard but not listening to the show apparently anyway So I do have a couple of clips that these are from just kind of just before this announcement which really happened over the last mmm like 36 hours

19:55 Here's Rubio. This is Global Radio Canada As NATO allies gathered in Sweden, the US made it clear it's working on multiple paths to a deal with Iran Negotiation and a plan for navigation of the Strait of Hormuz There has been some progress I wouldn't exaggerate it or diminish it The U.S. claims the two sides are getting closer to a deal to start formal negotiations Iran rejects that, characterizing the differences as deep and significant though Iranian officials did meet with key intermediaries from Pakistan to relay their positions You see what we've done to Iran?

20:35 Dying to make a deal. We'll see what happens But the US Secretary of State said he told NATO allies they need a backup plan if talks fail Plan B is, what if Iran refuses to open the straits? What if Iran decides we refuse to open the straits... ...we're gonna own the straits and charge tolls for it See this-this is the part that bugs me So you even have the BBC saying that the US controls the straits, that we are controlling the waterway. That were making sure no one goes to Iranian ports and then you've got future president Lubeo saying well they've gotta open the straits There's not a line of fast boats anywhere This is theatre of the highest level We don't know that No of course we know that

21:19 There's no line of fast boats saying stop. No, of course not! There is nothing going on in that regard This is only about what happened to the mines What happened all those? That fell off the radar No one's talking about the mine for a week now Because there's no mines. Okay, at that point something has to be done about it. NATO Secretary General would not openly talk about... Wait a minute! Stop a second. So you think the whole thing is a hoax? No, it's a financial war I've said this from the beginning. It's if... Laws of London won't ensure

22:00 Nobody, for whatever reason no one wants to use the American reinsurers through DFC and Chubb that were all set up. The International Development Finance Corporation For whatever reason nobody wants to use those So the shipping companies like oh it's a hundred X to insure your ship well we can't sail That is what this is about Only the couple of brave ones were like, you know, we're really here for China. The guys are snuck through it dead at night by turning off their transponders and heading through at midnight. Yeah the transponders is all bullcrap! The transponder is meaningless at this point Everyone's spoofing nobody knows where anybody really is Open the straits We're gonna own the straits and charge tolls for it At that point something has to be done about it NATO Secretary General would not openly talk about how the alliance might help

22:51 In recent weeks, both the United Kingdom and France have sent aircraft carriers to the region. This direct assault on freedom of navigation... Oh no! ...and global commerce impacts us all. It is important that countries are coming together around plans to ensure that the straits can be open for transit. The longer the stalemate drags on, the more this global crisis grows More than 20,000 sailors are still trapped on vessels in the Persian Gulf unable to leave their ships for months and quickly running out of food. They need a collective intervention because they are

23:29 key for our economies, for the supply chains but also they are civilians. Like the rest of the world they can only wait for the two sides to make a deal trapped by a conflict that has no end in sight. The way I see it we are blocking the ports of the Iranian ports and that's where everyone needs to go. Yeah, they're going to get their stuff from UAE and from Saudi Arabia but they're already pumping stuff over the pipelines like yeah we're getting it out this other way but the Iranian oil is really the prize here And so they want tolls and we're saying no tolls. That's what I keep hearing, toll we want a toll and the toll is not to get through the whole straight, the toll is only to go into the Iranian ports in the US are saying No you can't do that because then you have too much control

24:20 Here's Rubio. We cannot let that happen and it won't happen. It's not going to happen That's more important than anything else we can't think I could think of nothing That's more important than the fact that we cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon, and and we want CENTCOM still enforcing its blockade on the street of Hormuz saying as of May 20th sent calm still blocking CENTCOM everyone's claiming they're blocking their weapon And and we won't

25:02 CENTCOM is still enforcing its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, saying as of May 21, CENTCOM forces have redirected 94 commercial vessels and disabled four while enforcing the blockade to prevent the flow of commerce into and out of Iranian ports. Secretary Rubio on this topic here he is just moments ago On the issue of Iran, the news this morning I know it's early on in the United States a little later in the region and Middle East but we await word on those conversations that are ongoing. There has been some slight progress I don't want to exaggerate but there has been a little bit movement and thats good The fundamentals remain the same Iran can never have nuclear weapon And then added to this is of course the issue with the straits Iran is trying to create a tolling system Yeah there it is The tolling system And theres a little twist now

CHAPTER 05 / 30 Discussion

Iran Crypto Sanction Evasion, Bitcoin Insurance, Oil Prices

The U.S. Treasury Department reports freezing nearly $500 million in cryptocurrency linked to the Iranian regime to sever military financial lifelines. Iran is allegedly launching a digital insurance platform for cargo ships that accepts Bitcoin to bypass international banking sanctions. Market analysts observe that while regional tensions are flaring, the price of crude oil has fluctuated as the narrative of a potential deal develops.

bitcoin· cryptocurrency· u.s. treasury· sanctions· crude oil· stablecoin

25:50 question you had on Thursday about Crypto and how the Treasury and General Besant We're able to capture the crypto because that is all stablecoin. So now there's a little shift and this is part of the tolling system that it's problem for anybody but a problem for the US. Crypto experts claim foreign adversaries like Iran are using digital assets to evade sanctions and funnel money to bad actors. Darren Botello joining us now, okay Darren?

26:26 How do we stop this? Laugh Tale. Hi, good morning Stuart the good news is the Trump administration is already stopping in fact we confirmed that the US Treasury has been able to trace some of Iran's money and just last month they froze more than 300 million dollars this was in regime crypto Stewart Iran is reportedly launching a new digital insurance platform for cargo ships Digital insurance programs. Everyone's in the insurance game now! This is in the Strait of Hormuz and here's the kicker, they're settling payments entirely in Bitcoin basically this is how it works The companies pay the insurance companies in bitcoin and they get through the strait safely that's the trade-off It's a direct move to dodge our banks and scoop up a fresh source of cash

27:10 And this covers a much larger shadow economy. New estimates from a threat detection data firm show Tehran is sitting on a crypto pile worth a staggering $7.7 billion that Worchester has been expanding ever since heavy sanctions cracked down, this was during the first Trump administration by the way and here's a look at the price of crude right now The hot board's up. Prices are trading near recent highs as regional shipping tensions, they're flaring but the regime is counting on crypto to keep its military funded. Unfortunately they keep using words like crypto because you know crypto could be anything Ethereum could be specifically said Bitcoin yes I know that's what finally someone said bitcoin but it could be Trumps meme coin for all i know when they say crypto

27:59 But this is a problem because they cannot, cannot, cannot block Bitcoin from being used. But they have a plan! The Treasury Department is tracking the digital breadcrumbs and... They're telling Fox here's a statement over here Through economic fury treasury has taken actions that have led to the freezing of nearly half-a-billion dollars worth of cryptocurrency linked to the Iranian regime severing financial lifelines that Iran's regime and military depend on According to crypto experts, Tehran's tech is actually their weak spot here. We found over and over again that they're actually a much better asset for U.S law enforcement and other agencies to track because you leave a lot of breadcrumbs

28:42 So I said the administration is taking action, but how do we actually stop this industry insiders say? Washington has a massive trump card here by threatening to cut off crypto exchanges from the American banking system regulators could actually then flush out these foreign adversaries Oh, please. That's going to be a problem. Yeah grab it at the crypto exchanges okay? When did this report come out because this is old because the price of oil dropped since this thing took place. It was down to 97 come on! This it was 102 when they had this but look the way I see it I don't know exactly what the game is that's being played here

29:27 I'm for sure the oil guys are loving this because with any report like, oh we'll just make it more expensive and we'll go up then we'll go down. And your gas station's like, Oh yeah let's do $5 dollars, let's do 550 they can do whatever they want but when the narrative has been cemented and they stop posting stuff on X cause i think there is just one dude whose name we couldn't catch Then its gonna be over And then it's going to go and everything is going to come dropping down. I think it's going to come down fast and hard, that's got to be...I'm just looking at...I have no nothing the basis on other than what I think Trump is doing in his head by July 4th. The futures will be $60 barrel of oil. Well they're gonna have a hard time getting it down to 60 but it's possible. The futures? The futures are no futures, it's still hard to get down that far

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

Democratic National Committee, 2024 Election Autopsy, Ken Martin

DNC Chairman Ken Martin released a 192-page draft autopsy of the 2024 election, drawing criticism from party insiders for its timing and content. The report suggests Kamala Harris failed to connect with rural voters and lacked sufficient negative firepower against Donald Trump. Critics within the party, including former aides to Harris and Bernie Sanders, are calling for Martin's resignation amid falling fundraising numbers.

dnc· ken martin· kamala harris· election autopsy· rural voters· fundraising

30:27 You'd be buying that stuff up like there's no tomorrow. And it also screws up our shale business. Yeah, but those guys they were already struggling! Remember it was around $60 before all this kicked off... Before Venezuela days which is still flowing I presume. Venezuelan oil you don't hear about it. Why would you? Everyone's all obsessed so the I thought the this autopsy of the Democrat Party that was really interesting. Did you catch any of this? Yeah, I caught the whole thing and didn't think it was interesting in the least! I thought it wasn't why didn't you think it was interesting

31:14 There wasn't anything new in there. No, no nothing new for us but for the Democrats it feels like the Democrats are just all of a sudden falling apart before the midterms and they have no leader and they're all mad at each other I thought that was interesting so i brought two clips. Now to deepening divisions within the Democratic party and long-awaited release of the 2024 election autopsy The report was commissioned by Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin. Its purpose to help the party understand why former Vice President Kamala Harris lost to President Donald Trump. Martin got an independent consultant to write it, but then put off its release saying it was badly done after pressure from other Democrats today the DNC chair published a 192 page draft that he says is still littered with typos and inaccuracies

32:03 The paper argues that Harris wrote off rural voters and failed to attack President Trump with sufficient negative firepower. The DNC adding disclaimers at the autopsy doesn't reflect the committee's views are political pros are here to discuss Ashley Etienne is a former communications director to VP Harris, and Corbyn Trent is a former aide to AOC and Bernie Sanders I thank you both for being here actually you were one of the people pushing for this report release just hours ago you told our good friend Kristen Welker Ken Martin should step down. Explain why? Well, I think this is a complete failure of leadership. Ken Martin really has two jobs to run to raise money and win elections He chose instead of releasing a forward-looking document that lays out a vision on how to rebuild this party How to win elections going forward from the state level to the national level Instead what he released is a pre decisional document with credit decision over his hide That's really what does that mean here? Unfortunately

33:01 Predecisional? I don't know. What does it mean, doesn't mean jack she's just saying stuff! I think we should use it ourselves It's pre-decisional for you to say that. It is pre decisional for you to say I'm predecisional When elections going forward from the state level to the national level instead what he released as a Pre decisional document with critiques in it to cover his hide That's really was great play here and fortunately We've got a situation with democracy on the line We've got the party is having struggles. Fundraising is polling at 28 percent and Ken Martin made this entire autopsy debate about himself rather than about the party, about how to rebuild the party and how to bring back what we're seeing of bleeding support among the parties base vote voters

33:48 It feels to me like a coup is underway. Someone's- Yeah, they're trying to get rid of this Martin guy it's pretty obvious. Yeah well who was... He was a dud when they put him in we noticed this when they were doing it remember? They did the oh you have to have so many lesbians voting and then you had to have a gender fluid person in there and then they didn't pick one they picked a white guy. Oh that's right! We needed a BIPOC I forgot about that yes So, but... And then they pick some heteronormative guy. Who needs that? He's out! Whatever happened to the kid from Florida wasn't he part of the leadership? He was a second in command and they ousted him Oh you already got kicked out Yeah because there were too many white guys My goodness so sad Let me see, let me see Was this on YouTube? He is still floating around online on some social networks bitching Let me see if this is any good

34:47 Let me see. Allies of former President Joe Biden failed to give Kamala Harris needed support before her 107 day sprint to election day in 2020. No, that's no good. That's just the same. And by the way I think Tom Yamash who I like...I know you do! If you listen to him is the way his voice is he's got a kind of a funny lilt He sounds like he's about one little accent away from sounding like a surfer dude I'll need to pay attention to it now. He just sounds like he's gonna, but he's gonna drop right into the hey man Hey Cowabunga What surfer says cowabunga That was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles There was never any surfer dude who said cowabunga no yeah you check it out Meanwhile

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

Mayor Zohran Mamdani, Twitch Livestreams, Political Social Media Strategy

New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani is utilizing Twitch and podcasts to bypass traditional media and connect directly with voters. The strategy, compared to FDR's fireside chats and Fiorello LaGuardia's radio broadcasts, involves "relatable" content and answering questions about city budgets and personal interests. The hosts discuss the trend of politicians using social media to circumvent pointed questions from reporters.

zohran mamdani· twitch· new york city· gavin newsom· fdr· fiorello laguardia

35:45 Our top Democrat Socialist of America is Mayor Mondami. Mondami, Mom... Mom... Is it Mon-Dahmi or Mum-Dahni? I can't remember. Well, I'm gonna listen to you struggle. Yeah well okay thanks. Mum-Dahni! Mum-Dahni He's come up with a brilliant new plan. He is now the social media mayor. Mayor Mumdani, known as the social media mayor and now he is launching a live stream series on Twitch answering questions from New Yorkers... This is Gavin Newsom strategy! This this not a good idea. What do you mean? This what Trump did. Trump became the social media president. Yeah but Trump didn't start doing podcasting or videos

36:29 You know, he was basically just tweeting a lot of stuff at 3 in the morning. So what? Yeah well listen to this... Because Momdani has some good ideas Well he did get in through social media doing a lot of videos because I guess his wife was a producer or something Here we go. With the people and it will be shared on several social media platforms Also be posting these conversations wherever you listen to podcasts Whoa He's using the broadcast sentence of the future The most powerful sentence in broadcasting wherever you get your podcasts Yeah, was that what he said? That's exactly no he said where you'll be listening to this wherever you get your podcast That's what he said Listen to you play it again

37:12 It's called Talk With The People and it will be shared on several social media platforms. Also, we'll be posting these conversations wherever you listen to podcasts. Oh, you're right! Wherever you listen to podcasts... He never says get. Yeah good point On your commute? Washing dishes? Pretending to answer emails? Yeah that's like all the Social Democrats they just don't really work they pretend to be answering emails so that makes sense Because government should be accessible You should hear directly from your city about what we're doing and why were doing it When Donnie made this announcement with a photo... Weren't you supposed to do that at press conferences? No man, he's hip. On social media here it is the picture of himself next to FDR who did a series of fireside chats This is CBS New York who are all in just listen to how they're fawning over him in this Over the radio so political reporter Marsha Kramer joins me now to talk a little bit more about this strategy

38:07 take on the mayor's live stream. Well, Christine I would say it was an R rated performance but unlike the movies were in our means restricted here it stands for relatable the mayor was relaxed chatty didn't wear a tie and did the live stream with an expert named Moose who read questions from people who logged into Twitch now moose instructed the mayor in livestream manners he told him to say chat what's up? And say something good is called bussin'. Oh my gosh! Bussin. Bussin. What? He's using... he's bussing What's bussin'? Well, that's what Mondani said. Bussin'. That's when someone... It's bussing man! That's what the kids say You got kids around you? Buss it Never heard the kid say bussin' Your kids are too old They're saying bussin', and your supposed to say What's up chat No, your supposed to say Whatup trolls People who logged into Twitch Now Moose instructed the mayor in livestream manners He told him to say Wait they logged into Twit? Twitch What Leo's show? Twitch

39:06 Twitch, chat what's up? Yeah something good is called was oh my gosh. I think I need to read up on this and get with his language, but talk to me about the strategy of going on Twitch. Look, this is a mayor who has used social media in ways that other politicians are green with envy about it's a way to circumvent reporters who tend to ask well let's just say pointed questions This isn't okay taking it we always said the guy was doing a Trump Like promise everything. I wrote a whole column and if you go to Dvorak dot substack dot com, I wrote an entire column about it Yes the Oasis is filled up with it we could yeah

39:52 and to listen to the concerns of the people. So yes, the mayor did explain his budget and desire to see free buzzing not bussing And he was also asked if he played Minecraft No Talked about the Knicks and Captain Clutch to Ed Brunson and revealed his favorite place for tacos It was a very man-of-the-people performance What was his favorite place for tacos? We didn't hear, they didn't tell us. These guys are no good. Fiorella LaGuardia famously read comic strips to people on the radio during a newspaper strike. So social media is his form of radio. Indeed it was very relatable Did LaGuardia do that?

40:33 Yeah, LaGuardia was a social media guy. FDR did too. They used the, Fireside Chat was an example but yeah, LaGuardia would go on and he'd have a radio show and he read comics and discussed the newspaper and all this stuff. He's very down to earth people love this show. That's interesting. It's like a podcaster. OG podcast, I need to look that up! So I think that's all Mom Donny is doing which is good you know he's taking it from the best you know steal from the best yeah that's good this is good so we were talking about Massey oh man probably the most frequently emailed thing no two Paxton and Massey have been just filling up my email inbox Yeah I love the Paxton stuff apparently your people in Fredericksburg are idiots

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

Thomas Massie, Kentucky Primary Defeat, Israel Policy

Representative Thomas Massie's recent primary defeat in Kentucky is analyzed through the lens of his voting record and opposition to the SAVE Act. While some attribute his loss to spending by pro-Israel groups and Miriam Adelson, others argue he lost support in his red district by obstructing the Trump agenda. The hosts also touch on Ken Paxton's involvement in local Texas legal matters affecting the Fredericksburg area.

thomas massie· ken paxton· victor davis hanson· kentucky· libertarian· miriam adelson

41:22 Well, there's a couple of issues. One the most important one for the people in Fredericksburg and all politics is local I've heard someone say many times It was Paxton whose office wrote up the big press release excoriating our doctor, who is still in my opinion in jail unjustly. Yeah that guy we know about him he got... He was a good guy who just got rousted over his head Well he got rousted into a scam

42:01 Yeah, he got roused into a scam. That's what I meant in over his head. And Paxson wrote this whole... Well we got him! This is the guy, the linchpin! Okay that makes sense No wonder you wouldn't like the guy either if he pulled that stunt Exactly Exactly. So I'm on your side now Thank you, there's a couple other things about Paxson but you didn't ask me after the show so i couldn't tell you Well if you remember to ask Oh! You know? I forgot to ask He forgot to ask, I know! I put a note down too But... Okay, I'll ask today. Victor David Hanson, Victor Davis Hanson, Victor Dave, Dave? Dave, Dave. VDH! VDH had a great bit about Massey and he addresses everything and you just can't argue with VDH. No, he's the best. And he does it so calmly and... Yeah, Tommy Smothers Scott Jennings from my really respect is a really great commentator He takes on people at CNN. He summed it up

43:01 I can add something to it, but he did a wonderful job. He pointed out a couple of things that the district that Massey represented in Kentucky is probably the reddest district in the United States so those people wanted a strong, strong conservative. They didn't object as long as he was libertarian if he was gonna be a libertarian-strong conservative and by that I mean he came to prominence during COVID when you said there was overreach They even gave him some slack when he was opposing the big spending by both parties. But what they couldn't countenance was this, that you can have the luxury of a Susan Collins in the Senate or Rand Paul that don't vote 95%, they're mavericks and sometimes Lisa Murkowski...

44:00 indulgence when you have five seats in the Senate margin, you can have three defections. Okay? But when you're close in the House every little seat and they only got two-seat margin, you can't afford that so and so When he started after he became a folk hero on the right by on the right He decided that he was going to become famous on the Epstein files. And the problem with that was, he didn't say a word really when Biden was president and the majority of people who appear whether it's Larry Summers or Reid Hoffman are all these people there they're on the left

44:40 So it didn't condemn Donald Trump, it didn't condemn a bunch of conservatives. And that's what he was trying to partner with AOC and others in saying oh there is going to be Republicans you get the end... It was a farce! Alright so he's gonna give his voting record in a moment and then he's going to address the Israel issue But now it kind of makes sense to me now because Massey was more what you'd call a classic libertarian, which I think is what Ron Paul always was. What Rand Paul is do you think that they're true Republicans or are they more? They just feel like libertarians and that's why a lot of people who listen to us and listen other podcasts they liked that. They liked the yeah man he's in the middle. He's not going with those guys

45:26 Well, I'm not a big fan of libertarianism even though i called myself one for a few years. It's okay you slipped it's okay? It's kind of a stupid moniker because it doesn't really mean anything specifically John at Dvorak dot org Nah! I don't care But they always email me when you say these things They should they should make email you because they know that you can get to me You're spiraling So... Maybe, I mean it seems to me that's just a cop out for...

46:03 You know, yeah. It's the old well I'm conservative when it comes to... Yeah fiscal conservative. Fiscal conservative. I'm a social liberal kind of combination. I think drugs should be legalized and maybe they shouldn't be. Maybe they shouldn't be. I don't care everyone should do their own thing. Do your own thing that still but i think that's the basis is from Back in the 60s. Do your own thing, man! Hippies, hippie babies. Tune in drop out. Yeah. Turn on tune-in drop out that kind of... That's where I think it all stems from and is corny It's corny

46:41 Just being independent, now that's the way to go or not affiliated in my case. Unaffiliated we are both unaffiliated is the way to go here we go so that blew up on him and he kept trying to get back onto the mainstream and get attention and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Bobbitt and Tucker all those people loved him. That didn't work and then so he voted But the big defections came when he voted against the Big Beautiful Bill, he voted against closing of borders and he voted against this SAVE Act voter ID. And this was the big one, the SAVE Act and that's what Cornyn was also voting against which makes no sense! I mean, the SAVE Act is the most sensible thing in the world but okay.

47:28 And he voted against the Save Act, voter ID. And once he did that, he crossed the Rubicon and left made him into a brave maverick but he was always an ambiguous problematic person as... He didn't have a lot of principles. He had convenient principles because you said, as you pointed out To save his skin, he put out a false ad that years ago Trump had endorsed him when he won 80% against no opposition essentially. So we ran that to fool people and think that Trump had flipped. Number two, he said in his defeat that he couldn't find this opponent because he's in Tel Aviv. Does anybody really believe he lost because of the Jews? Yes!

48:14 Yes, entire villages of people believe this. Yeah I agree with that, I agree with you yeah they do in fact the notes that i got mostly was that the Jew money shh What's her name? Mariam Adelson. Mariam, that evil Miriam! She's the one who just pumped all this money and that's why it lost. No there has been people who say its a money issue keep ignoring the fact that Trump always had less money than the Democrats and beat them every time How about Musk spending $100 million in Wisconsin Yeah, and it must spend a ton of money in Wisconsin to defeat a couple of people. And they got nowhere! But you... So the money is yes, money is a factor when all things are even but when you have people that are running on the basis of various kinds of philosophies or

49:08 or screwiness that took place with this Massey thing. No, it's not a fact... I mean it is a factor but it's a minor factor and wasn't because of the money that he lost although people will argue with me because my thesis is just because of the fake scandal but you know okay- Yeah, I'm no so sure about that. I am sticking with my scandal theory But like our mayor in Fredericksburg had a lot less money than his co-contestant And then she got a lot of media, she was in the hill and vine with her family full picture spread and everything. It wasn't money that got Randy Briley elected. You know it's policy its you know our church probably. His opponent because he is in Tel Aviv does anybody really believe he lost because of the Jews?

50:03 He opposed the war and he always votes against Israel, but that's not why he lost. He lost because he deliberately on key votes that had nothing to do with Israel turned on Donald Trump from a red district it would be the analogous of say Nancy Pelosi's district, it's the bluest in the US. San Francisco and then she started to vote with Republicans they would that would be the end of her. Yeah that to me sounds a lot more plausible for Kentucky. Well somebody else pointed out that he wasn't doing anything for his district either, he was doing national issues, making a big fuzzy, he did nothing for the locals which is the biggest problem we have in politics in America in general everyone's always focused on you know the big national stuff look at your own town fix stuff there here's

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

John Cornyn, SAVE Act, Senate Filibuster

Senator John Cornyn is criticized for his stance on the SAVE Act and his perceived obstruction of the MAGA agenda as he nears the end of his term. The discussion focuses on the difficulty of passing voter ID legislation without nuking the Senate filibuster, as Democrats are expected to block the measure. The hosts suggest that outgoing Republican senators are increasingly out of step with the party's base.

john cornyn· save america act· voter id· filibuster· mitch mcconnell· maga

51:02 clip about Cornyn since we brought him up. The only way to pass a Save America Act is to nuke the filibuster because you're never gonna get 60 votes because the Democrats cannot vote yes for this even though they know it's common sense but they will never win an election again if the Save America Act passes so you're not going to get any Democrats to vote for it and then look, that the Democrats that are refusing or the Republicans refusing to pass this are the ones that are on their way out Look at Senator McConnell, Senator Cassidy, Senator Tillis and now you know what this is amazing about? What Cornyn is showing his true colors. This is what we were talking about for the last six weeks on this show as to why Cornyn could not have another six years, it's because it is dangerous to have these senators that we know hate the Trump agenda hate MAGA to be in the Senate without having to knowing they're not going to run for re-election again

51:51 There was no way he's going to run for another term after this. He is too old." So right now, he is proving to us exactly what we were warning you guys about. We need new blood and people that actually support Trump's agenda because these guys on their way out they love to love to just obstruct what this country wants and what President Trump wants. That's interesting I hadn't actually thought about that just because they've been primaried doesn't mean that they don't have a vote before the midterms Yep So I'm not quite sure what the strategy is there. But they were going to do that vote anyway, these guys...I have no idea why anyone would think like these guys and the Democrats this thinking that oh if we

52:35 If we vote for this and get the voter ID, then we'll never win another election. That's nonsense! Democrats as Democrat socialists maybe and maybe the corrupt Democrats in California on the West Coast where voters by mail is the dominant feature... Maybe yeah some Democrats won't get elected again but getting back to the middle of Democrats will get elected plenty of times that's bullcrap well I mean, you know the Democrats are actually by being this way are admitting that they're corrupt. Yeah yeah they are

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

Robert Harward, Fox News Mask Conspiracy, Biden Impersonators

Social media users have circulated a conspiracy theory that Retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward wore a hyper-realistic mask during a Fox News interview due to unusual shadows on his neck. The hosts dismiss the "Maskgate" theory as a result of studio lighting and digital smoothing filters. The segment transitions into a discussion about rumors regarding Joe Biden impersonators being used for public appearances.

robert harward· fox news· mission impossible· maskgate· joe biden· internet sleuths

53:13 PR. Oh, I don't want to say you banged your mic cable but sure sounds like it No i had the movie because im about to sneeze oh okay why dont you sneeze well no luckily when because you did that you said that ah i interrupted you yeah you interrupted the sneeze which means it will come later thats my least favorite thing people do OH BLESS YOU they say it ahead of time when you got that big sneeze coming and your gearing up for it I've never heard anybody do that OHHHHH people love doing that In advance of the sneeze? They see you going, they see you going and then they'll say oh god bless you before you sneeze. I've never had that happen to me. Maybe it's an East Coast thing versus West Coast so the big thing that had everybody occupied in these past few days since our last podcast mask gate! What? Mask gate! I can't believe your algos did not show you the mask

54:12 I don't know what you're talking about. Internet sleuths have come up with the wild theory that this Fox News guest was wearing a hyper-realistic mask straight out of Mission Impossible Retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward has gone viral for his May 19th interview on Fox News after hordes of social media users noticed what they said appeared to be an unusual shadow on the bottom of his neck You have not seen this? You've gotta look this up While i'm playing this game, you HAVE TO look... The guy is Hayward H-A-W-A-R-D. Just go on X, type in Hayward and you'll see the mask." Leading to the wild theory that the contributor was wearing a hyperrealistic mask. Many fueling the notion have pointed out that Harwood is a regular contributor to the program and that in all his appearances several of which were as recent as this month his neck appears completely normal

55:03 The outlandish claim has since spread like wildfire and turned into a full-blown internet meltdown, as many couldn't help themselves but to weigh in. Left wing podcaster Ed Krasenstein joined in on the hysteria on X. Can anyone really explain this? Why does it look like Fox News put a man with a mask in their show?, he wrote while conservative media personality Meghan McCain joked Just not to interrupt, but I'm interrupting. Yeah yeah, so I saw this image originally with the circle around that little area down at the bottom where it looks like a tattoo or something Uh, and I just glossed it over. I didn't pay any attention to it so I missed...I missed it." Oh people are losing their ever-loving minds over this? I don't see why. It looks like the same guy to me! We'll finish the clip and then tell you what we think. ...called back to another viral internet moment writing that mother f*** is not real others online have tried to bring the situation back down to earth by offering several possible explanations

56:05 It's a shadow, or more precisely a combination of shadows from the many lights in the studio and his shirt collar creating a weird overlap of shades on his neck," one user wrote. While another asserted that the oddity can simply be explained by a smoothing filter that caused artifacting they noted is common on virtual calls. Even Polly Market has gotten in on the action allowing users to wager on the outlandish theory. So what do you think, since we need to settle this for everybody? Well, first of all these masks. I know these things are not completely without precedent having these mask and some of them are pretty dynamite. There's a lot of examples online of people putting them on and what they look like. The typical... These mask over their head and they're pretty big in terms of what they cover up around the neck area that go way down into chest there. They're big!

57:04 And so you don't, this little anomaly here does it looks like bullcrap to me. Well I'd like to remind people of my family member in 1967 her husband brought someone home from work that she did not know for dinner and during coffee and dessert this person who she did not know 1967, okay this is when I was... what was I? I was three. So this is 58 years ago This person pulled off the mask and it was someone who she knew really well

57:41 That was technology over 50 years ago. Right! The technology has only gotten amazingly good and I agree with the... because the whole face looked kind of smoothed out, I agree with the smoothing and some anomaly that the filters brought in because on Zoom or WebEx whatever they're using you have a number of buttons You know make it high-def make my skin look good And I think it was that. And also, to what end? Who cares! Yeah, you know as those Biden... To what end?! Exactly this guy was in Vietnam i think who cares why would they why is this even necessary

58:27 But oh no, everyone's like this is it. No I agree with you yeah who cares? It's bull crap it's not the president, it's not Hillary, it's not anybody important in that regard. The guy's important to himself and the show but besides the point who cares So it's just like... No, I missed it. I missed it completely. Oh, it was just like come on people no no no now Biden definitely daddy long legs no doubt about it! That that was a whole different dude who is running across the White House lawn Well you know the story behind that? The current story right? No, what's the current story? The latest story was that a Biden impersonator hired some

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

White House Shooting, Nasir Best, Surveillance Realities

A suspect identified as Nasir Best was fatally shot by Secret Service agents near the White House after entering a restricted area. Despite Best having a history of mental health issues and prior interactions with law enforcement, the hosts argue this proves that government surveillance systems like Palantir and Flock cameras are not as effective as public perception suggests. They emphasize that law enforcement often fails to track known individuals despite advanced technology.

nasir best· white house· secret service· palantir· flock cameras· mental health

59:14 sometime during the administration to do a bit on the show and he was so good, they liked him so much that they decided to use him as a substitute Biden every so often. And then he got moved into a full-time position. Oh that's the story now is it? That's the story now yes. Good! Well let's break apart another another misconception by people. This is, let me see... this was the shooting at the White House near the White House? It was an interesting little story about this that you know that I think people should think about

59:56 Because I'll get into it. Let's play this first. We're getting some new details about the shooting that took place on the corner of 17th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue at about 6 p.m Eastern time, let's cross over now to our senior law enforcement correspondent Mark Santiu has more details mark what have you learned? What are we learning just from two stories briefed on the incident as well as an internal law enforcement document we know now that the suspect is Nasir Best who was transported to George Washington Hospital as his Secret Service said he has passed away. Now, the first thing that happened online was they started showing a picture of one of those crazy trans dudes which was from I don't know years ago saying oh yeah it's another trans shooter everything on social media is fake you just that is how you have to look at everything Everything is fake

1:00:50 Nothing is real. It's really not even worth your time, but that was the first thing that showed up and it actually is a black guy. The suspect previously approached the White House there was interaction in the past between the suspect and law enforcement In June of 2025 There was an order for him to stay away from the White House That incident in June of 2025 from an internal law enforcement document according to sources it happened on July the last summer near the White House, an officer in police uniform full police uniform was working at a pedestrian access control post at the White House. When he observed best the suspect walk into a restricted area by using the exit turnstile lane that was located at the post and apparently that restricted area had multiple signs there aiming stating do not enter exit only police line do not cross

1:01:43 pass holders and appointments only. Again, this was near the White House area. The suspect was immediately told to stop. The suspect did not listen to the verbal commands from the officer, did not stop and continued to go further into the restricted area. The suspect was arrested According to multiple sources, the suspect had no prior arrests at that time. The suspect claimed he was Jesus Christ and he wanted to quote get arrested. The suspect has a history of mental health issues again suspects known to United States Secret Service for walking around the White House area complex inquiring how to gain access and was taken into custody last year again the suspect being named as Nassir Best.

1:02:27 So one of the things that I keep hearing about AI data centers, and this has become almost a meme. People are saying well you know they're building all these data centers so that they can store all of your information to spy on you with Palantir and the Flock cameras have you heard this? Oh yeah. So this is Washington DC, this is the White House. Also shot spotters gotta go! Yeah well that's kind of out of the picture but it's the flock cameras its Palantir they're tracking you they're tracking everything now the people are tracking your paying money to you your Google and your Apple and Microsoft these are the people tracking you can just buy that information but

1:03:16 If it really was true that they're surveilling you on everything, how does this guy who the law enforcement knew about him? They knew that he had mental problems. They already warned him got a restraining order so they are not tracking this guy. They're not tracking it with Palantir doing minority report with flock cameras and his phone and everything and storing it in your local data center Can we just get a reality check on this for a minute? It's not happening. They're not that good, they buy the- They're not that good. They are tracking but they're not that good. That's the point Of course they're tracking but yeah, they are not bad. I mean this is what happened with 911 come on! Yes exactly well All these guys were under some looksie Well all of them There may have been a difference

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

Selena Wang, White House Gunfire Reaction, Metric System Usage

ABC News correspondent Selena Wang's reaction to gunfire at the White House is critiqued after she initially mistook the shots for fireworks. The hosts mock her for continuing to report for several seconds before taking cover. They also question her use of "meters" to describe the distance, jokingly suggesting it indicates foreign influence in American journalism.

selena wang· cbs news· white house· fireworks· metric system· reporting

1:04:15 dancing is released. Well yes, but let's just assume that we're going to go with the official thing because the official thing... why would you do the official thing that just indicates your boneheads? I mean the official story indicates that you're incompetent. Yes, well why would you do that? Oh we're dumb. I don't know just throw everybody off track would give us more money Right there you go and then another one so this this I really like this and I've dealt with immigration For by the way you wait stop before you leave that topic I thought it was interesting that we had the different reactions to the gunshots. There's like 30 shots and i don't know what they hit, they never told us did it hit the white house were they just in the air who knows but there was a Chinese broadcaster and she ditched everything and ran under a table immediately and then there was some dipshit yeah you know Wesley girl going... I think actually have the clip of her hold on a second uh the Wesley girl watch that

1:05:16 What is your noise? I think this is her. We witnessed a tense moment at the White House late yesterday Our Selena Wang was there and Selena joins me now from the White House And Selina you were there as shots rang out clearly audible, I want to play a little bit of that scene That President Trump has said a deal is close only for the two sides to remain far apart No! That was the one now you're right. That was the one who had to go well I think she actually said something about it going on for quite some time What was going on? Yeah, John? I mean this shooting was actually happening just meters from where I'm standing meters meter meters since when do we use meters

1:06:02 That's a good one. Why meters? She is a Chinese spy! What was going on? Yeah, John I mean this shooting was actually happening just meters from where i'm standing right now and in that video you played that is the exact place where I am here right now as preparing to go live for world news tonight and you notice in the video that I continue talking for the first few seconds of those gunshots because my initial thought was this must be fireworks or something else Then I heard to get down so the team and I we immediately dropped to the ground, ducked and covered. Then we heard secret service... Ducked and covered! ...running for us to move, to sprint to the... Okay anyway um moving on So i got a one of our knights sent me a very long uh email he said you shouldn't be so glib about the muslims okay You're glib about the Muslims? Yeah that you know well

CHAPTER 13 / 30 Discussion

Trump Administration, Green Card Policy Shift, H-1B Visas

A new Department of Homeland Security memo requires non-immigrants in the U.S. to return to their home countries to apply for green cards. This policy shift aims to return to the original intent of immigration law and impacts students, temporary workers, and tourists. While immigration attorneys warn of potential lawsuits and family disruptions, the hosts support the move as a way to prevent people from staying indefinitely during processing.

uscis· green cards· h-1b visa· department of homeland security· immigration· trump administration

1:06:59 He was kind of misstating it, and this is what I said. Dude, I don't know what you're talking about because he was saying these foreigners coming in...I'm doing an accent These foreigners coming in they're taking away jobs from our kids all the H-1B visas. Bah! And I said first of all we were talking about something else but right as I'm reading this email This new policy comes out which I think is a dynamite policy for the United States Which takes care in one fell swoop of all the issues about? H-1b visas and I really like it, and I've been dealing with immigration in the US for 30 more than 30 years And made many people legal some always married to some not

1:07:49 But this is a very good policy. Well, the Trump administration announcing a major shift in how it processes green card applications moving forward non-immigrants in the US are going to have to return to their home countries. Scripps News legal affairs correspondent Ava Joy Burnett is looking into this change so Ava Joy who would be impacted by it? Quite a few people, couple thousand people maybe hundreds of thousands according to some immigration attorneys could be impacted here. This is the new memo that was released by the Department of Homeland Security under USCIS and according to officials in the Trump administration, according to this memo they say people who are here in the United States want apply for green card they must leave the United States head back to their home countries and apply for the green cards from

1:08:40 outside of the United States. This memo was issued late last evening but we started to see more details on what reactions were like earlier today and some of the people who could potentially be impacted here are students, people who came to the United States as students there could be people who are here as temporary workers and even tourists and been really getting quite some attention. They said, we are returning to the original intent of the law to ensure aliens navigate our nation's immigration systems properly from now on an alien who is in the US temporarily and wants a green card must return to their home country to apply except for in extraordinary circumstances

1:09:41 Yes, this is good. And I don't know if people understand how this is going to impact the H-1B and of course the people who do H-1B immigration visas temporary visas they're all flipping out about it but here's the explanation of how this will actually impact them and we have to presume that the only way this will work is if the US UCIS If they was at UCI yeah The u.s.. The Immigration Services They have to have enough people and systems to actually handle this. But I've done this, I've had to arrange a green card with someone going back

1:10:19 to their country of origin and it took a few weeks but it's not impossible. And if they make that system work that way, its gonna be very good particularly for those you worried about H-1B visa holders taking your kids jobs Some of the attorneys I spoke with earlier today they weren't as concerned about what this actually means one person told me they are pretty sure people will be able to continue to apply for that green card status But then there are other attorneys who were really concerned. They said that they've been getting many calls from their clients, some of those clients are extremely alarmed and they're talking about people who have family members here. There are folks who are working here in the United States, they may be married to US citizens,

1:11:05 on the immediate relatives of them. So their spouses, their parents, their children. It includes people who are here working with US employers who are in the process or in legal status working and they're in a process of applying for their green card which can take decades so it gives them a temporary way to stay here so that they're not upended and their work is not upended

1:11:47 And that attorney with the American Immigration Lawyers Association, she told me that this is something that could potentially impact hundreds of thousands of folks. For example back in fiscal year 2023 this is where we have the most recent data about 600 000 people were in line applying for their green card going through that process. This is a process that could potentially take months or even years so we're talking about the possibility of hundreds of thousands of people who are waiting and they're now wondering what does this actually mean for them. We've been told that there's a possibility that lawsuits could be filed really to push back against the Trump administration and prevent people from being forced to leave the United States. Yeah, I think it's good this is the way it should be. This is how it worked in the past when we got a bunch of Democrat presidents administrations and they made it way too easy. This is how used to be

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

Tulsi Gabbard Resignation, Aaron Lucas, Intelligence Community Vacancies

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announced her resignation to support her husband, who was diagnosed with a rare bone cancer. Aaron Lucas will serve as the acting director, though critics note the lack of Senate-confirmed leadership in key intelligence positions during the conflict with Iran. The hosts discuss the media's portrayal of her departure and her history of clashing with the intelligence establishment.

tulsi gabbard· aaron lucas· dni· bone cancer· john ratcliffe· nctc

1:12:44 And you can get, I think probably for marriage you probably can get a parole. I think is what they call it for some reason and then you can go back quickly and come back in but it's going to help the system see who really should be here and who shouldn't be. An H-1B is just temporary, in out gone none of this like oh well now I married this person And now I want a green card and i'll just stay here, and i'll stay here forever until it's processed. This is good! Okay... Let's talk about Tulsi Gabbard quitting Yeah... yeah this uh.. this another one of those- This was a very big disappointment For you? I liked her! Yeah well its- I thought she was good in the position She broke the thing about Obama being y'know A horrible person Mmhmm And nothing came of it Mmhmm

1:13:49 So here's the two clips they have NBC. Tonight, as the president weighs resuming the US war with Iran his top intelligence official says she is resigning director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard writing her husband quote has recently been diagnosed with an extremely rare form of bone cancer saying I must step away from public service to be by his side and fully support him through this battle. The president posting that Gabbard has done an incredible job and we will miss her An Army veteran and former Democratic Congresswoman, Gabbard broke with her party to endorse Trump in 2024. I invite you to join me in doing all that we can to save our country

1:14:28 and elect President Donald J. Trump, well... But as his director of national intelligence, Gabbard never fully made it into the president's inner circle clashing with administration officials including the CIA director and often absent at pivotal decision points for years an outspoken opponent of American wars in the Middle East going to war with Iran would make the war in Iraq uh and even Afghanistan look like a picnic Recently, Gabbard struggled to defend the president's attack on Iran. He still believed that war with Iran would be so costly and devastating that it would make our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan look like a picnic Once again in this role It is essential that I do not allow any of my personal views on any issues to color or bias the intelligence reporting Yeah, this is disappointment. I'm with you on that

1:15:23 Part two. A person familiar with the discussions telling NBC News that Gabbard's allies had pushed her to resign over the war with Iran, but she declined earlier this year the president was asked about his confidence in Gabbard I would say that i'm very strong on the fact that I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon but I think she's probably a little bit softer on that issue But that's okay some people are oh so they're insinuating She was pushed out and this is the excuse? Is that what's happening here That's what they're insinuating. Most people are, Garrett all of this as President Trump says he is considering new strikes against Iran? Well Sam he has given this weekend a loose deadline for potential resumption of airstrikes and we've just learned that not only will the president not attend his son's wedding but he also cancelled planned travel to his club in New Jersey and will instead remain at the White House this weekend

1:16:09 I see people on all sides of the political spectrum saying, oh it's just an excuse. Like you really are that's that's really rude towards Chelsea Gabbard if she wanted to quit i'm pretty sure she'd just quit yeah She's not a bullshit artist. Here is MS Now, let us see what they say I'm going to put you on the spot and apologize for that David but we just got this posting from Donald Trump on Truth Social as was predicted by Jake Traylor and i am going to read it in full but also talks about who will be taking over at least interim for Tulsi Gabbard a guy named Aaron Lucas

1:16:51 posting. Unfortunately, after having done a great job Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving the administration on June 30th her wonderful husband... Stop it stop the clip I gotta go back on that A guy named Aaron Lucas. So you don't, you know refer just normally would just say his name? Well what is position is well but the way to say a guy named as if it's like I said yeah some guy named that well they're gonna fight they're gonna follow up with who he is But it's beside the point It's a disrespectful way of presenting it also You'll hear in this clip says she's she's going to be leaving June 30th and

1:17:34 Which is, I guess that's a... she has a transition period while she's helping her husband. It wasn't immediate. She didn't walk out in a huff? No, she did not. In full but it also talks about who's going to be taking over at least in the interim for Tulsa Gabbard, a guy named Aaron Lucas but let me read the post-it. You're right! That is funny. Unfortunately, after having done a great job Tulsi Gabbard will be leaving the administration on June 30th her wonderful husband Abraham has been recently diagnosed with a rare form of bone cancer and she rightfully wants to be with him bringing him back to good health as they currently fight a tough battle together

1:18:16 I have no doubt he will soon be better than ever. Tulsi has done an incredible job and we will miss her. Her highly respected principal deputy director of national intelligence, Aaron Lucas will serve as acting director of national intelligence." All right let's find out who Aaron is? I'm looking at his bio but he's a seasoned intelligence professional, former CIA chief-of-station do you know anything else about him can you give us any more insights? Yeah! He's a guy and he's named Aaron into this guy Aaron Lucas? She does it again, a guy. What is the point of that? Who's his guy? I'm looking now...I mean he was confirmed by the Senate in sort-of party line vote but there was ummm.... I think he is experienced and I want to give him chance. I don't know him specifically and his background very well. And I would agree with Mark Geary. Do some work! This is going to be John Ratcliffe

1:19:10 So there'll be someone in that position, but one of the problems is that another key person, the director or the National Counterintelligence Center resigned because in opposition to the war with Iraq. So you now have no Senate confirmed Director of National Intelligence. You'll have an acting in that position and the NCTC... Wait stop! Didn't he just a few seconds ago say that the long, you used the term along party lines? Yes. They confirmed this guy Aaron? Yeah yeah Well how is now is he saying there's no confirmed

1:19:51 What is he talking about? It's either confirmed or it's not. No, no along party lines but let's listen again hold on With Iraq so you now have no Senate-confirmed director of national intelligence You'll have an acting in that position and the NCTC Position is empty as well So it's not great to have Joe Kent had resigned from the position of Director of the National Counterterrorism Center. That is underneath the ODNI, that's underneath Gabbard's old office so this kind of vacancy and changes while the US is at war you know it not great and I want to re-emphasize there should have been an intelligence assessment how would Iran respond to being bombed? Would Iran try to seize control as straight ahead moves in? And I'm just saying this for viewers

1:20:45 And that has to be an incredibly factual rigorous assessment not on stop it again who says there wasn't Ms. Who says there wasn't MS now? They're making you just make it up as they go along he doesn't know one way or the other Yeah, I'm pretty sure they make it up as they go along yes In fact I'm quite sure They are getting most of their news off of X like everybody else That's what that is. I don't know how anyone can watch this crap Well, it's our job John no i'm saying the MS now is a deplorable operation Politics or you know the wishes of the president frankly It's important for intelligence to speak truth to power because there was a mistake in this war we didn't seem to anticipate that Iran would close the Strait of Hormuz and

1:21:41 and you know, you've now had this conflict drag on for nearly three months. having stability and nonpartisan people in these jobs is so important. Yeah, but there's non-partisan people... Non-partisan my ass! Well this is one of these guys who you know he's a contributor so he wants to be contributing wants to keep contributing so he's gotta say things that they want to hear the contributors say I get it. He's just doing his job.

1:22:26 has put in her resignation and part of it is because or the reason she says she is resigning, is her husband Abraham has come down with a rare form of bone cancer. Those of us who know her and our husband they are the most amazing people are heartbroken over this and yet I want you to watch this montage of how the Democrats... They're doing super cuts now have reacted to this news This is the fourth woman to leave the administration in the past few months. In terms of the impact on US foreign policy, I think it's basically irrelevant she was entirely out-of-the loop on decision making this was because basically she's just not in sync with this administration and this is why her initials D&I became do not invite you know probably one of the worst things that I've read

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

Russiagate Declassification, James Clapper, Admiral Michael Rogers

Newly declassified emails from 2016 reveal that then-NSA Director Michael Rogers raised concerns about the integrity of the intelligence product regarding Russian interference in the DNC hack. James Clapper reportedly pressured agencies to align on a "team sport" narrative despite Rogers' warnings about insufficient review time. These documents have been referred to the Justice Department for further investigation by Attorney General Pam Bondi.

james clapper· michael rogers· nsa· fbi· russiagate· dnc hack

1:23:22 Yeah, no I'm pretty sure that this is a real resignation for those reasons. And I think she was having a good time! She seemed to be... she was on a lot of podcasts and she was yacking it up and she seemed competent and she did the thing about Obama which nobody followed up on you know then that was a big deal yeah so here is Just to remind everybody, this is what she did. She did this years ago. Declassified by the office of the director of national intelligence yesterday and released publicly just moments ago is an exchange of emails initiated by Michael S Rogers the four-star Admiral now retired Did you ever hear this? I never really heard this one about we liked Rogers, Admiral Rogers who was running the NSA

1:24:17 Yeah, he was a good guy. And he was the one that said hey this FBI guys you know pulling all kinds of stuff out... They're spying on ya dude! Spying on ya man? But I never heard about this, this is about the intelligence assessment which is very bad for Clapper who headed the National Security Agency in the second Obama term Rogers wrote to his boss, then Director of National Intelligence James Clapper in late December of 2016. To say that he the Admiral had just returned from overseas travel and had received an update on quote our efforts to produce a joint product related to Russian attribution and intent for the DNC D triple C hacks I know that this activity is on a fast track Rogers wrote to put together a product that can be provided to the president

1:25:04 I asked my team if they'd had sufficient access to the underlying intelligence and sufficient time to review that intelligence. On both points, Rogers said, my team raised concerns. My folks aren't fully comfortable saying they've had enough time to review all of the intelligence... ...To be absolutely confident in their assessments," he wrote I'm not saying that we disagree substantively, but I do want to make sure that when we are asked in the future whether we can absolutely stand behind the paper, that we don't have any reason to hesitate because of the process. If the intent is to create an integrated product Roger said that a CIA FBI NSA jointly authored that we can all defend We need a process that allows us all to be comfortable and i'm concerned we are not there yet

1:25:47 If NSA is intended to be a co-author of this product, Rogers said also I personally expect to see even the most sensitive evidence related to the conclusion. if your intent is to create a CIA only or CIA FBI authored product then Rogers concluded I will stand down on these concerns Have you ever heard about this? No, not at all. There's a part two to this which really nails Clapper. On that email Admiral Rogers cc'd FBI director James Comey seen it screen left and CIA Director John Brennan seen in screen right flanking the DNI James Clapper seated in the middle for their joint congressional testimony 10 months before this email in February of 2016

1:26:28 Director Clapper took a little over 12 hours to reply to Admiral Rogers and when he did, He addressed Brennan and Comey as well suggesting they too during those twelve hours privately expressed views similar to those of Rogers. Clapper began Mike John Jim understand your concern it is essential that we CIA NSA FBI ODNI be on the same page Clapper wrote and we're all supportive of the report in the highest tradition of that's our story and where sticking to it quote-unquote This evening, Clapper continued CIA has provided to the National Intelligence Council the complete draft generated by the ad hoc fusion cell. We will facilitate as much mutual transparency as possible as we complete the report but time, Clapper warned is not negotiable. Here you go! You may have to compromise on our normal modalities since we must do this on such a compressed timetable. This, Clapper concluded is one project that has to be a team sport gym

1:27:29 This latest declassification by Director Tulsi Gabbard's office comes after she referred these matters to the Justice Department for additional investigation. And Attorney General Pam Bondi then directed the impanelment of a federal grand jury in Florida. Yeah Clapper we always knew this guy was the loser. Yeah, he's He has the one that screws it all up and he did Oh well You know We haven't with a timeline is important so we may have to you know go away from our regular modalities ie just write something up I think this is more smoking gun than people realize. I think so too, but then I went over to Bondi that was the end of it. Well no, no, no... Bondi referred it to... No! No, no, no. I think Degenoa's doing that stuff in Florida isn't he running that?

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

Joe DiGenova, Florida Grand Jury, Spygate Investigation

Joe DiGenova has reportedly been tapped to oversee a federal grand jury investigation in Fort Pierce, Florida, focusing on former officials involved in the Trump investigations. The probe, overseen by Judge Aileen Cannon, targets "deep state" actors and the origins of the Spygate scandal. The hosts debate the likelihood of this investigation producing significant results compared to previous efforts.

joe digenova· spygate· florida· eileen cannon· doj· grand jury

1:28:20 I think so. What? The... what?! Yes, the Genoa and his wife! No! Yes yes! What the sealed indictments guy? Yes he is! No that guys not even in the picture He is, he is. Yes he is DeGenoa Let me see it. No. Yes yes You're... I'm telling you Well you can be telling all your want I just want some evidence Yeah I thought I had a clip about him Joe I know Gorka's back in the picture. What is he doing? I don't know, but somebody mentioned he was part of the administration and now doing something. Sebastian Gorka! Now I'm going to have... Here, here, here, Clapper. I am telling you it was... I'm telling you it's DeGenoa and his wife You dreamed it. You were having a vivid dream No no no hold on a second let us ask The Book Of Knowledge that will do it Let me see

1:29:20 Where is, oh man. There we go where is this out? Okay so book of knowledge yes hopefully this will work book of knowledge Is Joe DeGenoa involved in the grand jury in Florida about Russiagate it's a long long long search for the Book of Knowledge According to the Book of Knowledge, Joe DiGenova will oversee the Spygate probe in Florida after the DOJ removed a deep state prosecutor and is heading up a Florida-based federal investigation into former federal officials who investigated Trump. He assumes leadership of the ongoing Grand Jury probe based in Fort Pierce

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

Pentagon UFO Files, Kazakhstan Sighting, Chinese Spy Balloons

The Pentagon has released over 50 declassified videos and accounts of unidentified aerial phenomena, including footage from Kazakhstan and military encounters with orange orbs. The report includes audio from astronauts and footage of an F-16 shooting down an object over Lake Huron in 2023. Experts maintain that the footage does not prove extraterrestrial life, while the hosts link the timing to upcoming Hollywood releases.

ufo· pentagon· kazakhstan· f-16· chinese spy balloon· declassified

1:30:15 with the investigation being overseen by US attorney Jason Redding Quinones and using a grand jury run by Judge Eileen Cannon. Thus, it has been written." Told you! Oh that's gonna go nowhere then... Well that's a possibility but for some reason they brought him back in to kill it We'll see, we'll see. Okay I got two clips here that I want to... I do have a clip blitz if we have time for it Oh goodness Let's do the newer UFO files just released NBC clip Yes new new news Newly released UFO files like this one in Kazakhstan A mysterious object lighting up the night sky Other videos showing pulsing balls of light Flying erratically and seeming to defy laws of physics

1:31:09 Some even appearing to fly in formations. Part of the Pentagon's release of more than 50 declassified videos and first-hand accounts following President Trump's directive to release government UFO files. The files include audio of astronauts decades ago describing mysterious bright lights and particles. And this report from last year. In an encounter that lasted over an hour, a US intelligence officer reported oval-shaped orange orbs coming within 10 feet of a U.S. helicopter splitting in two and speeding away leaving military and intelligence professionals speechless Other videos may have an explanation Here a US F16 fighter jet shoots down an object over Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023

1:32:06 The same day the Pentagon said it shot down a possible Chinese spy balloon over that lake. Experts tell us no video release so far proves any of- Hold on, stop! The spy balloon wasn't shot down over Lake Huron It was shot down over the Atlantic Well, there were two spy balloons. Weren't there? I don't remember two all i remember is the one that they let go floating all over the place it was a daily news item and then once it got to the Atlantic they shot it down with a missile with a million dollar missile I think there was another one that floated down and that's how they figured out it was from China. Pretty sure there wasn't one, but it wasn't Shemuel A. Don't make me consult the book of knowledge. Object over Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023 The same day the Pentagon said it shot down a possible Chinese spy balloon over that lake Experts tell us no video release so far proves any extraterrestrial visit

1:33:00 There's nothing in any of these that proves anything about alien life. All it shows you is that there is stuff in the sky that initially can't be explained." This was the Pentagon second release of UFO files and they're expected to roll out the next one in the coming weeks. Yes, I'm pretty sure we are only two and a half weeks away from Steven Spielberg's disclosure day? Yeah then the releases will end after the movie does its thing. Well, yes it probably will and see if I had any... Not a small report. Let's go to the next item which is the Ebola update, BBC Yes yes this is interesting Health officials in the Democratic Republic of Congo say that current Ebola outbreak has resulted in more than 200 deaths in three provinces Deaths Earlier on Saturday the government suspended all flights from and to one of the epicenters The northeastern city of Bounia Thomas Nadi reports

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

Ebola Outbreak, Democratic Republic of Congo, Deborah Birx

Health officials in the Democratic Republic of Congo report over 200 deaths in a new Ebola outbreak, leading to flight suspensions and travel restrictions. Dr. Deborah Birx discusses the failure of the African CDC to detect the outbreak early despite hundreds of millions in global investment. Birx defends the Trump administration's funding levels, contradicting narratives that the dismantling of USAID led to the crisis.

ebola· drc· deborah birx· usaid· world health organization· african cdc

1:32:06 The same day the Pentagon said it shot down a possible Chinese spy balloon over that lake. Experts tell us no video release so far proves any of- Hold on, stop! The spy balloon wasn't shot down over Lake Huron It was shot down over the Atlantic Well, there were two spy balloons. Weren't there? I don't remember two all i remember is the one that they let go floating all over the place it was a daily news item and then once it got to the Atlantic they shot it down with a missile with a million dollar missile I think there was another one that floated down and that's how they figured out it was from China. Pretty sure there wasn't one, but it wasn't Shemuel A. Don't make me consult the book of knowledge. Object over Michigan's Lake Huron in 2023 The same day the Pentagon said it shot down a possible Chinese spy balloon over that lake Experts tell us no video release so far proves any extraterrestrial visit

1:33:00 There's nothing in any of these that proves anything about alien life. All it shows you is that there is stuff in the sky that initially can't be explained." This was the Pentagon second release of UFO files and they're expected to roll out the next one in the coming weeks. Yes, I'm pretty sure we are only two and a half weeks away from Steven Spielberg's disclosure day? Yeah then the releases will end after the movie does its thing. Well, yes it probably will and see if I had any... Not a small report. Let's go to the next item which is the Ebola update, BBC Yes yes this is interesting Health officials in the Democratic Republic of Congo say that current Ebola outbreak has resulted in more than 200 deaths in three provinces Deaths Earlier on Saturday the government suspended all flights from and to one of the epicenters The northeastern city of Bounia Thomas Nadi reports

1:33:58 It's unusual for the DRC government to suspend flights during an Ebola outbreak. Previously, airline operators have made this decision for themselves The transport ministry said the measure was to prevent any cross-border spread of the epidemic and to guarantee the health and safety of passengers, crews and airport staff The transport ministry did not say it was banning humanitarian, medical or emergency flights but that these will be assessed and will require approval from health and aviation authorities. The Democratic Republic of Congo's football team say they will not change their preparations for next month's World Cup despite being told to isolate by the United States because of the Ebola outbreak

1:34:42 A White House official said the squad needed to remain in a bubble for 21 days before traveling to the US. I love the bubble! But a Congolese spokesperson said all the players were based outside of DRC and their plans remained the same Well, since you brought it up...I've got our scarf lady back again She's still in the news Deborah Birx The WHO rather says there are now almost 750 suspected cases In the Congo around the Congo and nearly 200 deaths How does the severity of this situation compare to previous outbreaks? Well, the problem with this particular outbreak is there was probably two three or four cycles of infection before it was even reported. And so a lot of the numbers you're seeing and the rapid rise in the numbers is because it went undetected and underreported for probably three or four weeks that resulted in a lot

1:35:34 case reporting all at once and so I can't really tell you what the slope of new cases are which is really the important thing when you're following an acute infectious disease but just to make it very clear to your audience, the people we are seeing today that our cases were probably infected two weeks ago. And so i think that's what makes us all concerned as we're looking at this virus and this outbreak with really old data now I'm only playing her clips because she for one said something that was interesting and a little counterintuitive to the narrative, and this is on CBS. As you know in the past year-and-a-half the Trump administration has largely dismantled USAID it has withdrawn Come on Debra blame it on Trump! Blame it on Trump! You know I had this clip

1:36:20 Blaming USAID for everything. But wait... From the World Health Organization, it cut funding to the Congo and Uganda Do you think that those moves contributed To the delay in reporting this outbreak? And are they contributing to The lack of supplies in dealing with The outbreak In the Congo Do you really have this clip or do you have a clip like it? No, I had it. I didn't have that exactly but I had a clip where they're blaming USAID because obviously is our job to keep the Congo from getting Ebola and it's our job to monitor the Congo and the Congolese themselves and everybody in Africa

1:37:03 They got nothing to do with anything because they're too stupid. So USAID has to be there and it's been gutted by Trump so this whole thing is Trump's fault." That's what she's angling for, our Nancy Cordes? But Burks has a different story! Well, when I look at what the administration has done recently. I think they put 50-100 million dollars out there immediately and sent people as part of their response. The bigger question to me is a lot of us in the global community... The global community? John are you and i in the global community? It's possible sometimes maybe we

1:37:41 We touch on it. And the global community. A lot of us in the global community invested extensively in creating the African CDC for this very reason, for this very response hundreds and millions of dollars went into building laboratory capacity in the DRC at the African CDC and for some reason that failed us so what we need to do is figure out So we put hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions in the global community into the African CDC so we paid for it our CDC in Africa and for some reason it failed. Aha! Why didn't we detect this earlier? Why didn't the institutions that we all stood up as a global community effectively control this

1:38:25 Outbreak early because I think you guys are just there to spread disease You're not actually there to combat it so that it didn't spread as far and wide as it has within the DRC. I understand It's a conflict area, but we have to do better We owe it to the people in the DRC and now listen what she says about USAID this is It completely destroys the narrative. I hear what you're saying about the fact that the money is now flowing from the US to the region, but we talked to aid workers in the region as well who said that a lot of local programs were terminated after USAID was dismantled. Programs aimed at Ebola preparedness and response and so they just don't have the same capacity as they did before. Hold on a second... Is this CBS? Yep

1:39:15 So this is Ellison's crowd and this is what's-her-name, Barry Weiss. And they're on the side of like rearming USAID in a scam that it is with the money laundering that goes on with that thing? This is CBS... Why does Nancy Cordes even have a job? They are only doing what Israel tells them to do John! Don't you know that?! Because Larry Ellison, you know... She talked about leading the witness. But listen to the answer! As they did before I think it's a great question and we need to really look at that. I know CDCs global health security program was retained and a lot of that funding retained, I know we had people in Kinshasa as part of the CDC if you look at the Uganda funding now i'm looking at it from the HIV side which really built a lot of the laboratory capacity this year they're getting over 400 million dollars so maybe there was a five percent cut but

1:40:14 I think the American people were thinking that these programs had been slashed. If you look at the MOUs, the agreements that the US government have made, I've actually been reassured by the numbers on paper. Ha! Gotcha Thank You Deborah Birx Unexpected Yeah, that was good. That's a great... I'm giving you a clip of the day for that! I am going to accept it with uh with great honor if i could find my clip of the day yes with great honor Great honors has looked for you Hold on, I found it there's the clip of the day Got a note from one of our producers boots on the ground says You guys recently mentioned a lawsuit against an AI company

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

Kratom Ban, Tennessee Legislation, AI Lawsuit

Tennessee has passed a ban on Kratom, a Southeast Asian plant often used to manage pain or opioid addiction. The legislation follows a controversial case involving a teenager's death, though a toxicology report suggests a lethal dose of Benadryl was the primary cause. Lawmakers cited concerns over synthetic "7-hydroxy" versions of the plant, which are significantly more potent than morphine.

kratom· tennessee· benadryl· toxicology· 7-hydroxy· gas station heroin

1:40:55 where Kidd asked if it was okay to mix Xanax with kratom. Yeah, that's a great note by the way I am aware of this claim because i'm in a couple of pro-kratom groups now we have to say we have a producer who makes uh kratom drinks he has sent me these kratum drinks I don't even know what kratom is It's a plant and the Indians chew this all the time it's um... Indian or American indians? No Indians India In India? India in Hindia yes Oh, okay. So like okay and they extract the sap and they do all kinds of stuff with it. Okay yeah they chew it and I remember our producer sent me like 24 bottles in the post office was all mad because three of them exploded into box so it was a huge mess but I drank one or two. What did that do to you? It gives you little minor body buzz

1:41:46 I guess, but... Body buzz. Yeah a little body buzz but what and when we talk about this is years ago people were saying that they had been hooked on heroin they had all kinds of drug dependency issues and kratom was in fact what was responsible for them getting off of that. And it's good. It's a natural product now there There is a synthesized version, which is not what our producers are talking about. But so this producer's in lot of pro-Kratom groups I just recently noticed that this is the same case That led to Kratom being banned in Tennessee where I sit at this very moment The part this AI lawsuit and the Tennessee ban both leave out Is that the kid was

1:42:32 This is what the kids do, maybe it's a TikTok challenge. The kids want to see the hat man quote-unquote the Hat Man by taking in so insane doses of Benadryl an act that leads to hallucination the implication here from our producers that it was the overdosing on Benadryl that made the kid kill himself, not the Kratom and not the Xanax. But man, it sure did contribute to that law being passed." Covering the state capitol now Tennessee passes a full ban on what's often referred to as gas station heroin after

1:43:12 ongoing debate over the effects of kratom. Kratom is derived from a Southeast Asian plant and supporters say when it's in its natural form, kratom can help curb herb opioid addiction and managed pain. So it makes total sense that we would ban that plant because can't get involved with the drug companies now, can we? But Tennessee legislators sided with caution this week aligning with advocates who say kratom in any form can lead to addiction and even deadly overdoses. Tennessee now joins eight other states in banning kratom entirely, even in its natural form. And that's the problem so... Banning the natural plants Well you gotta read the end of a guy's note! Well that's all I had in mind what do you have at the end of his note?

1:44:01 The end of the note was he got a hold of the toxicology report on the kid. I'm sorry, yes, he did. He got ahold of the toxicology report... Yeah well read that! That's the best part. I don't have that in my notes. Oh okay well i'll just tell you what it says yeah he had four times the... Four times the lethal dose of Benadryl in his system? Yeah so I had almost everything except for The punchline. Well, I hand back my clip of the day! This bill addresses the growing public health and safety concerns surrounding Kratom

1:44:37 often marketed as a natural supplement, but natural does not mean safe. The Kratom plant has been used as an alternative to opioids, a way to wean addicts off heroin and as a natural way to relieve pain but in recent years Kratom has been modified into a stronger synthetic form known as 7-hydroxy or 70H often sold at gas stations and vape shops as a supplement or extract Experts say 7-OH is 13 more times potent than morphine. Yeah, okay so there's a synthetic version which obviously is the problem but the plant itself I mean I think that should be investigated where is RFK Jr this should be investigated because I've heard enough guys got enough problems I've heard nothing but positive things nothing but positive things about kratom the plant not

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

NAACP Recruitment Boycott, California Governor Polls, Steve Hilton

The NAACP is urging black athletes to boycott public universities in states that are redrawing congressional maps to dilute black voting power. In California, a new poll shows Republican commentator Steve Hilton leading the primary for governor with 22%, closely followed by Democrat Javier Becerra. The hosts discuss the potential for two Republicans to advance to the general election under the state's top-two system.

naacp· college athletes· steve hilton· javier becerra· california· redistricting

1:45:31 vape shop, gas station heroin or whatever they're calling it. Well I've heard nothing at all. Red 33! Red 33! Clip Blitz! Clip Blitz! Alright clip blitz what are we doing? Okay, let's start with voting rights and athletes. The NAACP is urging black athletes who are being recruited by public universities in states weakening the power of black voters to not commit to going to those schools until those state governments restore fair congressional maps. The civil rights group is targeting eight states in the south where major college football and basketball programs made up of mostly black players rake in big money

1:46:11 The NAACP is also asking college athletes to elevate the issue and call on leaders to speak out against racial redistricting. It's also urging alumni, donors and fans to withhold financial support. Several Republican-led states are racing to redraw congressional districts in an effort to flip seats effectively diluting black voting power Alright. Yeah, yeah that's gonna work. Screw the black athletes! Steve Hilton head. Ah, Steve Hilton head in the clip blitz What is going on with the clip blitz? There's a long lead-in to your clips. The NAACP is urging black athletes who are being recruited by public... No wait no that's not Hilton. Where's Hilton Head? Alright skip it go ahead and lift right Hold on hold on let's try again hold on don't move

1:47:01 Republican commentator Steve Hilton and former health secretary Javier Becerra, a Democrat continue to lead the primary for California governor. KQED Politics correspondent Guy Marzorati has more on a new survey from the state Democratic Party The poll finds Hilton leading the pack with the support of 22% of likely voters Becerra is in second with 21%, followed by investor Tom Steyer with 15%. 13 percent of voters remain undecided just two weeks before the June 2nd primary. The survey could ease some Democrats' fears about two Republicans advancing to November under the state's top-two primary, it finds Hilton has opened a comfortable lead over Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco. We gotta make it illegal! Make it illegal that can't happen we can't have that happen

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

Elon Musk, OpenAI Lawsuit, Gemini AI Artifacts

A federal jury has dismissed Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman, ruling that Musk waited too long to file his claims of illegal enrichment. In a separate story, a Lyft driver was banned after using Google's Gemini AI to generate false images of car damage to charge a passenger. The hosts highlight the increasing presence of AI-generated artifacts in legal and commercial disputes.

elon musk· openai· sam altman· gemini· lyft· ai photos

1:47:50 Red 33, clip blitz! Clip blitz. All right, clip blitz. Lyft driver used AI photos to the index a father from Boca Raton Florida claiming a lyft driver used AI photos To falsely accuse his teen daughters of damaging his car charging a 75 dollar fee They sent the father photos But at the bottom right The Gemini logo Now Gemini is Google's ai assistant that can generate false images Lyft has now apologized and blocked the driver from their app It's another no agenda. Hold on Elon Musk lawsuit. Yes, welcome back this just in tonight a jury has thrown out Elon Musk's massive lawsuit against open AI and Sam Altman A federal jury found that musk waited too long to sue he had accused Altman of illegally enriching himself off the company That must help start with him musk says He will appeal saying the judge didn't rule on the merits of that case

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

CBS Radio Sign-Off, David Ellison, Skydance Media

CBS Radio is officially silencing its microphones and laying off staff following the company's sale to David Ellison's Skydance Media. The hosts reflect on the history of the network, from Edward R. Murrow to the invention of broadcast news, and its decline in the age of smartphones and podcasts. Adam Curry shares a personal anecdote about buying a house from CBS legend Dallas Townsend in 1990.

cbs radio· david ellison· skydance media· edward r. murrow· fireside chats· podcasting

1:48:50 Alright, now can I play a couple of clips about AI stuff since you've let us hear with your cliplets or is there more cliplets? There's a couple more. Well, can we... Don't give me that! This one here I want to play this one because this is a sad one. Three clitblitzes? Oh okay. Sad one. It's another No Agenda. CBS Radio signs off. Have you heard this? Yeah of course Before there was television long before there were podcasts CBS radio basically invented broadcast news

1:49:25 In big cities and remote farmhouses, families would gather around the radio to hear President Roosevelt deliver a fireside chat. Now we've got Mondami on Twitch! Or Edward R. Murrow's eyewitness accounts of the Blitz This is London being bombed again Half an hour ago I could read street signs in the flash of anti-aircraft batteries broadcast like that one brought the sound of the world into people's living rooms. In the process, CBS radio made the world a little smaller and listeners' vision a little broader

1:50:01 Generations of talented wordsmiths polished their craft at CBS. Before Charles Gerald went on the road and Peggy Noonan penned speeches for presidents, they got their start working overnights pounding away at typewriters painting vivid pictures for The Ear. CBS radio is still carried on some 700 stations But fewer people are listening to the radio these days. There are other ways to entertain yourself in the car now, and young people have grown to expect more personalized programming from their smartphones. CBS's parent company was sold to David Ellison Skydance Media last year The new owners announced two months ago they were silencing the microphones and laying off the radio staff

1:50:41 Christopher Cruz is set to deliver the final CBS Radio newscast just after 1130 Eastern Time tonight. Well, in an interesting twist this was there was a prophecy about this happening back in 1990 and the prophecy is this because if you listen how does how does this start off? This starts off by them saying before there was television long before they were podcasts right so our first house the first house I bought in New Jersey, in 1990. I bought from Dallas Townsend Does that name ring a bell to you? Sounds familiar but I can't place it at the moment He was the quintessential CBS radio news guy and when we bought the house there was a big picture of Walter Cronkite above the fireplace

1:51:37 Oh God. And so in an odd sort of way, that was the passing of the torch ten years before podcasting came to be So that was in fact a prophecy How is it a prophecy? Well because I'm making into one Hello, okay. Hello I'm just making it up as they go along John Yeah you're just like the MS now people Okay, I'm gonna cut you off if you talk to me like that that I mean you might as well Just say I'm horrible. I'm a horrible person Alright, clip blitz. Come on, clip blitz! It's another in our agenda... Okay well the last- if you want to play one more then Minnesota I don't really but yeah i'll do it Well you don't have too No no now we've announced that we did a Clip Blitz jingle Well then play this Minnesota which one is it? That doesn't say- I don't have a Minnesota Classic Cars

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

Minnesota Classic Car Bill, Driving Restrictions, Surveillance

A proposed bill in Minnesota seeks to limit the driving of classic cars to weekends and special events, sparking concerns among enthusiasts. While the bill may be tied to cheaper registration fees, the hosts speculate it is a move to phase out older vehicles that lack modern tracking technology. They suggest this fits into a broader narrative of increasing surveillance through data centers and license plate readers.

minnesota· classic cars· registration· license plate readers· surveillance· data centers

1:52:33 Classic cars. Minnesota lawmakers want to ground your classic car five days a week. I saw this! A new Minnesota bill could ban most weekday and nighttime driving for classic cars now this is kind of wild, of course we enjoy seeing classic cars on the road brings a smile everyone's face you think but that experience might be about become even rarer in Minnesota because the new law if passed would limit classic cars to driving only on weekends or at special events. Well, okay I saw this story and someone sent it to me was like they're getting classic cars out there hey that's only because these people want cheap registration if you register your car as a car you can drive it whenever you want

1:53:19 Yeah, it's true. It is kind of misleading. It's kind of misleading very much at the same time What is the point I mean there but this is now misleading maybe but is this a foreboding? Is this a prophecy perhaps that's going to start can move the older cars out because they won't have computers that can track you ah through the data centers and the flock cameras and the and the license plate readers hmm Absolutely. Coincidence? I think not! I shall wind us up here with a few clips from CNBC, I like CNBC because they kind of can't lie... Well they can but it doesn't go over well with their audience at all however small it is

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

SpaceX IPO, AI Infrastructure, Jeff Bezos Productivity

SpaceX has filed a 308-page prospectus for its IPO, revealing significant investment in AI infrastructure despite heavy losses in that segment. The company's valuation is estimated at $2 trillion, far exceeding traditional sales multiples. Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos argues that AI will not take jobs but will instead act as a "bulldozer" for productivity, potentially leading to a labor shortage and deflation in core goods like food.

spacex· elon musk· ipo· anthropic· openai· jeff bezos

1:54:08 This is about the AI IPOs and we're now starting to get some information, starting off with SpaceX's IPO. And that it was a, I thought it was relatively intelligent conversation about getting out first. Who's making money? Who's doing what and for those of you who get value from the show by hearing us talk about things maybe this is a value to you last night though around dinner time here in the Bay Area The SpaceX prospectus dropped drop pick it up

1:54:44 I remember when we went public in 96. Well, it looks like Think New Ideas have filed their S1 document now is just looks like it dropped last night though around dinner time here in the Bay Area of the SpaceX prospectus dropped And it was a 308 page document that is part rocket company, part satellite empire, part frontier AI lab all wrapped in a controlled company structure with Elon Musk holding majority of the board. Now the AI segment that is the part I want to dig into today because essentially all paths in that S1 lead back to AI. You're right, this lady could be replaced by an AI agent going as let's do a deep dive! The financials have three main sections space connectivity and AI the AI segment it did 3.2 billion dollars in revenue last year on 6.4 billion of losses now eye-popping number though that was CapEx as it often is these days

1:55:44 nearly $13 billion on AI infrastructure, which is four times the revenue it is currently bringing in. So if you are a bear the math here and this last one, it's pretty straightforward. If it's a two trillion dollar valuation as has been reported and speculated on 18 billion dollars in total revenue last year you're looking at more than 100 times sales For context, Nvidia trades at around 23 times. Palantir one of the most stretched names in the public market around 88. So SpaceX would be coming in higher than either of them and it's not actually profitable. It is losing money. Here's the other thing though. SpaceX has never been priced on traditional measures and that is unlikely to change right now. This is a growth bet on Elon Musk full stop and the same investors who bought SpaceX- Did she say full stop in their middle of a sentence?

1:56:31 Yes, but she never stopped. No that's bad form I agree private rounds 400 500 600 billion dollars they did it because of him the retail demand on day one likely going to be enormous and whatever you think of Musk's politics or pay package he has done something that no one else has built category defining companies not once or twice three times so that bet on SpaceX it also matters beyond this IPO itself OpenAI is reportedly planning a confidential filing as soon as this week. Anthropic may not be far behind, players in the infrastructure layer underneath all of them are watching Q and trying to figure out their own windows. What was the bill for?

1:57:11 It was because I just felt like that bell was needed. So in this... Anthropic's not far behind, to all three of these things! In this follow-up clip they're going to give you some insight about the differences between the three. I thought it was reasonably good. You know i'm not sure if it matters too much who goes first? Okay The Noah Jenner Show disagrees whoever goes first is gonna be big winner, everyone else. We don't think that's a good idea. Every so often this something like this happens the first one goes and they did the big winner then the next one goes and then something screwy happens and then it folds and the third one gets nothing I'm not sure if it matters too much who goes first It does matter

1:57:54 I think they're just so different in the models. Obviously, SpaceX is really a bet on Elon and his vision. Open AI is really a bet on the consumerization of it, of AI. And I know open AI recently has started to move away from the consumer model and more to enterprise, but their DNA has been a consumer-first AI company. Anthropic from the beginning was hey we're an enterprise solution. And so I think one of the things that they think about is where do investors believe that the future at least in near term, near to medium term right? The next two to five years where should they place their chips? They could place on both but if you have to pick one, do you pick on AI and consumers or do you pick on AI

1:58:36 and the enterprise. And that's in the private market, that was the trade for venture or the venture capitalists who believed in AI would be a consumer application first before anything else bet on open AI and the ones that believe it was the enterprise but on entropic and I think now retail and you know the rest of us will get to make that choice as well. I'm going to give him my opinion. You just say blah blah blah. Well you should have cut him short then. He should give your opinion instead he listened to that What's your opinion? I don't have an opinion Exactly As crazy as he seems, I think Elon Musk is actually doing the smartest thing. It may never come to be his data centers in space...I don't know but he's selling compute to Anthropic! I think he's giving up on the LLM business and Grock will just be whatever it is for people who go hey Grock take your shirt off and hey Grock remove the loser or hey Grock remove the Jew they do this all the time

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

Value for Value Model, Podcast Apps, No Agenda Art

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" funding model and the benefits of modern podcast apps that support live streams and rapid publishing. They review recent artwork submissions from the No Agenda community, including a piece by Nessworks for episode 1870. Adam Curry encourages listeners to contribute time, talent, or treasure to keep the show independent and advertiser-free.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· nessworks· no agenda art· memorial day· nashville

1:59:34 You seen that? No. It's funny though. They do this, it's so horrible! I think Musk has the right idea be in the cheapest infrastructure business once you get those things up in space using the sun and I don't know about anthropic and open AI But then my final clip will be from Jeff Bezos, who has a very different take on AI taking your job away. So there are so many smart people and they are smart and they're saying oh my god you know there's gonna be no more radiologists because You know that I can read x-rays better than a radiologist can and they're gonna be no more software engineers Because hey I can program better than a software engineer can

2:00:19 These people are wrong. So what's really going to happen is that it's going elevate all of these people and there's gonna, it's like you've been digging let's say your software engineer right? What the analogy I'm giving you is you've been digging out a basement for your house with a shovel and somebody was about to hand you a bulldozer You should be so happy if you're digging the basement to your house and somebody says, hey how about this? I have a tool here that's gonna... What's really going to happen is we're going to have so much productivity in our economy

2:00:57 that for example, this is just one effect. A lot of people who have two earner income households, one of the people is gonna drop out of the workforce. That's why we're gonna have a labor shortage. People because of the productivity gains you're gonna be able to afford things. We're going to have I predict will actually have deflation of certain core assuming we let this technology play out and don't hamstring it with regulation too early, we will actually have everything... food will get cheaper. Whoa! Now that's a different take I like it. I think he is right. I'm with you on that Food will get cheaper? I am surprised by that because you hated this AI thing

2:01:46 Well, I hated the chat part of it. Yes! I thought that was stupid... ...I've been using AI for all kinds of things. Coding? That's true you're like a-you're an acolyte. I don't know what that means. Ah figures But if its a prophecy You are one of them. But I want to wear that mantle and also wanted thank you for your courage saying in morning to you man who put the sea in Cowabunga say hello my friend on other end the only Mr John C Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry I think K is cowabunga spelled with a k I'm John In the morning all ships sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in water dames and ice out there It's definitely spelt with a C Let me count the trolls for a second Oh! Well that's interesting

2:02:31 1602 on a Memorial Day weekend. That's not too bad. Oh good, yeah it's good trolls are listening No Agenda Nation is tuning in through noagendastream.com or one of the many modern podcast apps which allow you to Not only get your podcast that you want within 60 I'm sorry 90 seconds and 60 but 90 seconds max of when we publish it, which is a big deal compared to the legacy apps. But also when we go live and many of the No Agenda stream and No Agenda Nation shows you get a bat signal, you tap on it boom! You're in the app where you used to get on-demand podcasts that once downloaded now getting the live stream It's a beautiful thing

2:03:12 Moving up on it'll be 19 years in October of our podcast of our podcast We've been doing it value for value all of these years and it's a very simple model Whenever you feel you got value out of this podcast, many of you have told me you do. Then just send us whatever that's worth to you right back to us at noagendadonations.com Time, talent treasure we appreciate the time and talent Many people help us in so many ways giving us extra peanuts on the plane Thank You Audra Giving us a boots on the ground on Kratom We have a lot it In fact if there is a secret sauce of The No Agenda Show it's the producers

2:03:52 There is always someone somewhere who works in the field, is an expert because they just happen to do that job. And when you let us know that's how we make everything much better for the program. The producers... Because we don't have listeners. The producers really are what make it all fly In addition to that we have artists Well, we used to have artists I was talking about this the other day at the dinner table So we used to have a lot of artist now We have prompters! The artists are all gone I don't think we've had a well Nessworks, I think does kind of some art still Blue Acorn But have we had any of the old guards Nick the rat is trying some some AI stuff but I Don't know. We quite haven't quite gotten to that Bezos That Bezos Promise yet that is there's only going to be better for them How do you feel? I like the art we get well a lot always been sketchy It's true

2:04:51 Well, so what Nessworks is and now Nessworks was the art that we chose for episode 1870 titled VBS. Took a while to get that up on noagendashow.net but we finally got that figured out it was there but it was the wrong number and Void Zero and I are gonna try and make that less of a problem when things go wrong But Nesswork created this and I think he did more of this by hand than then by AI What do you think? This flamingo... Well, it had a different look for sure. It's hard to say. I mean, it could have been all AI or it could have been a cut and paste job. I don't know. Maybe he can tell us? Yes please Nessworks let us know! Looking at noagenartgenerator.com that's where Sir Paul Couture spends a lot of his time making sure that we aren't spammed and we don't have inappropriate art flowing into the Art Generator

2:05:50 Which is very obvious for people who like to do that kind of stuff. It is Memorial Day weekend, so I would recommend that the artists give us Memorial Day themed art. I'm with you on that! Not Cuba! Did we even talk about Rubio and Cubio? Cubio! There ya go, Cubio Yeah, you played a buncha stuff. Uh... did I? Don't remember Not on Cube, but Rubio. Yeah looking at the artwork that we received we had some screw lube arts that were... Babes are overrated you used the No Agenda podcasting vacation school for the newsletter That was nice oh yeah and there was babes just lots of babes too many babes I'm not gonna choose babes all the time And it's not so funny to have women falling down manhole covers

2:06:40 Or manholes in New York. We found that kind of gruesome, manhole because the lady died and wasn't that nice? She died?! Who fell down the manhole yeah! Oh I don't know that... Yeah she burned up, was scalding hot it was a bad very very bad day for her No, I don't think there was anything else we really liked. Was there anything that you recall that we discussed? No! The one I liked was the one we picked. Yep, that was it. It was very...I would say this selection was paltry Yes. noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your art everybody can participate We appreciate when when you do and thank you very much for For your ultimate courage of supporting the best podcast in the universe now we have our

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Red Knighting, Health Karma

Adam and John acknowledge high-tier donors who have contributed $200 or more to the show. Christian Sutton Jensen is knighted as a Red Knight while requesting health karma for his aunt. Catty Bones honors her late husband, Jim, with a posthumous Red Knighthood, and Aaron Lopez becomes a Red Knight as he enters his final year of college, requesting accounting job karma.

christian sutton jensen· vincent james· catty bones· aaron lopez· red knight· karma

2:07:26 Treasure supporters who go to noagendadonations.com whenever they feel the urge like, I'm going to support these guys and send them something whatever the value we can't look in your pocketbook We don't know what's valuable to you $5 could be very valuable to you And it's just as appreciated as five thousand dollars which may mean nothing to someone else And it all kind of evens out in the end, we've noticed. So value for value is a way of living It is the international lifestyle and we've been moving along with that for as I said over 18 years Everyone who comes in and is fortunate enough to be able support us with $200 or more Not only do we guaranteed read your note but will also give you an associate executive producer title which is valid wherever Hollywood credits are recognized

2:08:09 $300 or more, that's when you become an executive producer. We read your note and we still have that promotion open for the instant night, the red knight order of the heart which gets you with the coveted no agenda night or dame ring along with a very fancy pin which will show you are different than everybody else $50 and above, we thank everybody. We start now with our executive producers Christian Sutton Jensen is in Clovis New Mexico comes in with one thousand dollars and includes included the fees we appreciate that and says it's time to become a red knight so that's one thousand dollars...one thousand thirty dollars and sixty cents that's what that 26 26 I'm sorry

2:08:57 And Christian says, it's time to become a red knight. I need the biggest dose of health karma you're legally allowed to give Well we can determine that no problem We have a governor on it but we can take it off We are unscrewing that thing One month ago my aunt was hospitalized with bacterial meningitis She's been awaiting a heart surgery of her own after weeks of fighting infections and other horrible things. Things are stabilizing but not improving, I think a red knighthood is the appropriate move at this time. I've struggled long time with my faith, I don't know if it's appropriate or not but i ask my fellow producers to keep my aunt in their prayers she is a beautiful and joyful woman and God knows he family needs her in their lives." On lighter notes

2:09:42 I would like to be knighted as Sir Yes-Sir of the you know where and he winds up with thank you for your courage. So we're going to do some extra super stuff for you and for your aunt, here we go. You've got karma. You've got prayers. There ya go! Vincent James in Madison, Alabama 103026. No note he's gonna have to send something in so we can hear what he has to say He will be a red knight today But since you got no note would give him a double up karma for them to stand by

2:10:26 On to Rio Rancho, New Mexico. $1,000. Catty Bones comes in it's a switcheroo for Jim I might add and Catty Bone says Dear Adam and John my husband Jim and I have been listeners since 2014 that's 12 years I'd say. I unfortunately lost him at the end of 2023 to a fall, oh man. My life is never and will never be the same without him We look forward to our No Agenda nights twice a week on Sundays we learned so much from your show especially during COVID and thank you she says. I could fill pages with examples of what a wonderful husband and best friend he was but nobody has that much time So i'll just say that in all of our years together we never had a fight

2:11:09 I've been meaning to write in and make him a knight, however i never felt like it was the right moment. It always made me sad thinking about the fact that he would be a posthumous knight but once I heard about the order of the heart I knew I had to make him a red knight something special! I would love it if you could de-doosh him posthumously well of course... You've been dedouched There are a couple of jingles that he really liked, Climate Gate and Fear Is Freedom. And I would love it if you play them in honor of him for his night name. I would love it to be Sir J Bones, a nickname of mine for him. Thank you! I'm going to send the letter and donate soon so I can be his dame. Thank you both for keeping me sane not just during that time

2:11:49 that he was here with me, but since then as well I tune into every show and try to imagine him next to me listening and laughing. I'm sure he's up there listening and laughing and watching you. Big thank-you to both of you and Noah Jendrenage for helping keep us all sane during this insane time! Sincerely, Jay Bones' loving wife, Caddy Bones. Classic classic classic onward with Aaron and Lopez in Santa Rosa, California 1000

2:12:44 And he sent a note in, a physical note. Hello John and Adam I'm the first time donor couldn't pass up the chance to become a red knight on my first donation. I have been listening to this show since COVID and felt the need to return the value in these trying times. I am entering my final year of college. Wow! Like this at Sonoma State And I would like some jobs karma, Pelosi jobs karma the classic of course. As a search for an accounting internship thanks for all that you do please knight me as Sir Blue Wolf of the bean counter sincerely

2:13:21 Aaron, Aaron is H-E. Aaron, Aaron. Aaron on. Aaron on. Lopez. He's got a pronunciation guide for his name but Lopez is what we call him and I'm gonna deduce him he didn't ask for it but first time donor. You've been deduced Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! And we drop straight from the executive producers in the thousands down to our first associate executive producer Chris Dubendorf from Brookville, Maryland 257.94 did not have a note but does have an American flag emoji So I'm going to say that is likely for Memorial Day and I will still add a double up karma for you

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers, V4V Book Model, Small Business Shoutouts

The donation segment continues with contributions from Associate Executive Producers. Matthew Benjamin Clark discusses applying the Value for Value model to his books, while small business owners like Eli the Coffee Guy and Linda Lupatkin promote their services. The hosts offer advice on the V4V model for authors and play requested jingles for the donors.

dame melovation· matt b. clark· la jolla salt· gigawatt coffee· image makers inc· resumes

2:14:19 So we didn't have one normal executive producer. Yeah, oh executive? No well I mean what do you mean normal? 330-333 Okay that's a 333 We had four executive producers. No I'm saying normal. Dame Mella Vation in Colorado Springs 250 she wrote an attached note It's got kind of interesting handwriting. Dear JCD and AC, here is some value. This is probably a $250 donation for the 250 years. Yeah this was a promotion you put it in the newsletter I remember! Yeah we got one

2:15:04 I'm pretty sure Chris was one as well and the fees were $7.94 just guessing. Okay, celebrating 250 years of this great nation you two will be part of this country's history? Yeah, I think so after 20 years by keeping our amygdala small it's good to hear John being back to his old self but with a seemingly slightly softer edge My dad had triple bypass at the age of 52 and he's still around at 87. John, you have 30 more good years left! Please keep The Best Podcast in the Universe going until after JD or Marco are sworn in as number 48."

2:15:48 And he's got, oh okay. Thank you for all that you do for all the producers and the many blessings on everyone peace and joy Dame Melovation Melanie Dries Very nice day Melovation thank you for celebrating our country with us Matthew Benjamin Clark Samet Pennsylvania and he says dear Adam and John Oops, sorry hold on a second dear Adam and John In my quest to one day make a living as an author, well you talk to John that's the right guy to talk about. I've recently transitioned into the value for value model for the distribution of my books How about that? So this donation is a thank-you For a great show and forgiving me hope That the V4V model can work for me And for anyone in Gitmo Nation looking for a good read visit mattbrights.com

2:16:42 W-r-i-t-e-s MattBWrites.com I've got something for everyone and it's all free! No, no no see this is not how you do the value for value model. Let me just help you right there And as an added thank you any donations i receive in the next month will be split with a NO Agenda show Adam if you can find it I'd love to hear the Abu Bakar al Baghdadi jingle and I'd love to have some prayers Well, you're lucky actually found the abur-badi-bada Baghdadi jingle. But John could you please explain to him how the value for value model works for books because you have done this with Mimi and too many eggs dot com? Yeah, you have the book available as a PDF that it's free with the idea that the book will be downloaded and someone will end up buying a printed version

2:17:35 And the idea is that you want to sell, or they download it and give you what they think it's worth in a value for value method. But I mean using the word free has got to be minimized. Yeah gotta go with that has to go But did it work well for the too many eggs dot com books? I think it worked well, yeah. Last night... But we saw a lot of books and the idea was that there's a little different with The Too Many Eggs so we have our commercial version of the book which is printed and that's not done value for value Got it

2:18:10 Here we go. And that's the goal is to push people in that direction. I haven't heard this in a long time And he died in a vicious and violent way. He died like a dog. There it is! You've got prayers. Thanks for requesting that, hadn't heard that in a long time. That's what the died like a dog refers to dogs die normally Yeah well

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2:19:51 The best. Place your order today, also support the show people it's the best podcast in the universe thank you for your courage Go Podcasting! We actually haven't done a go podcasting in awhile have we? Where is my go podcasting I don't know where it is...go podcasting..I've lost my go podcasting wait is this here? Nope. I don't know where it is sorry. GO PODCASTING Eli the coffee guy, he always comes in with $200 and adds today's date so it is 20524. He is from Bensonville Illinois and he says more fear mongering on Ebola and Hanta virus actually I think that Hanta is over. Hanta has been pushed to the back seat It better be! Its all Ebola Both have been lingering in headlines a little too long but I guess Scott... Hey by the way can you play the ebola jingle at the end of this?

2:20:47 Read Ebola. We haven't heard that at all during the entire Ebola crisis. Ebola, yes I will... That's a good idea thank you for reminding me but i guess Scott Gottlieb and the rest of his talking heads need something to do Good coffee is a health elixir did you know that? Yeah! I've been reliably told it cures all that ails and maybe even ebola well maybe with the exception he says of hemorrhagic fever So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order, and as always stay caffeinated! Eli the Coffee Guy! Thanks for reminding me I'll have to bring those back if this nonsense keeps up It will...for a while Ben Sterling in College Station Texas Ah Ben, do name Ben 200 good old Ben

2:21:38 This donation should bring me to Viscount. Wow! Please give me jobs, Karmaz. I just interviewed for my boss's job and being a VP for a Fortune 250 company before 40 would be cool. Ask anyone. Also everyone should give a listen to Just Two Good Old Boys podcast with Sir Gene and I Baron soon-to-be Viscount dude named Ben, defender of megawatts protector of the electric grid. Sincerely, Ben Sterling Yes, Ben gives us a lot of good information about what's really happening in the electric grid Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs!

2:22:22 And coming in as she always does with $200, it is Linda Lupatkin from Castle Rock Colorado. And she wants jobs karma and says your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression and most don't for a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com. Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership results and impact that maybe Ben maybe you should talk to Linda for getting that VP gig She helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership results and impact. That's Image Makers Inc with the K, and Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs!

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Indianapolis Raffle, Los Angeles Report

Reports from recent No Agenda meetups in Indianapolis and Los Angeles are shared, featuring audio from producers and servers. The Indianapolis group held a donation raffle, while the Los Angeles group met at The Proud Bird for plane spotting. The hosts emphasize the importance of these local gatherings for building the No Agenda community and regulating the "amygdala."

meetups· indianapolis· los angeles· proud bird· value for value· community

2:23:08 And we continue with the rest of our supporters in the time, talent and treasure portion that is over at Value for Value Model. We have, and we'll have a meetup in a moment... Actually first we have Sir Ever of The What? Linwood Michigan 123.45. We love it when you do that! Here's the IndyNoAgenda Meet-Up which will be a switcheroo It's a row of sticks, 111.11 cents This just took place I got a nice meetup coming up for you IndyNoAgenda Meetup Raffle Switcheroo! It's a donation for SirRipoffTheMaple Donation value-for-value from one of the best monthly meetups out there Congratulations to Sir Ripoff

2:23:49 of the Maple for winning the money donation raffle. Draw and to newbie attendee Tony for runner-up prize a bottle of JCD Costco recommended Cabernet! Hey, I mean these are... this is fantastic Which Cabernet was that? Was that the Kirkland? I believe so. Newbies always win at the IndyNA meetups Pro Audio Meetup Report by the amazing Annette Loveslit, M&M of the Greenwood Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdoms Sir Mark of the Greenwood Warden of the Crossroads thank you so much Dame Rita Sparks Nevada $105 and 24 cents she says we're the best thank you Dame Earl Early Turtle Topeka Kansas 103 33

2:24:31 Shauna Norberg, Bellingham Washington $100 love you mean it Kevin McLaughlin he is the Archduke of Luna lover of America and boobs Concord North Carolina with his boob donation every single show eighty dollars and eight cents God bless America and melons Sir Edward the Henpecked, Omaha Nebraska 6523. It's a birthday donation for his loving wife on May 23rd. It was yesterday to celebrate our winning anniversary May 24th which is today! She loves to torment me but I don't know what i'd do without her. Sir Edward the Henpecked. Baron Sir Phenom Appleton Wisconsin $60 and 8 cents that's something that's lopsided I guess

2:25:09 Matthew Elwart, Weatherford Texas with small boobs $60.06 same from Les Tarkowski and he's in Kingman Arizona Dame Nancy of the Confused San Bruno California 5244 she says thank you for working on the holiday weekend That I'm saying thank you for noticing. It's true. Cole Dial, Alma Illinois 5250-5225 we see the palindrome there and here are the 50s just a couple of them Alexander Delgado Aptos California with the 50 Baron of the Belmont from Belmont North Carolina he is the Baron of Belmont and the Catawba River Basin and finally Michael Myers of Diamond Head, Missouri wrapping up our value for value supporters for episode 1871 I would be a miss if i didn't thank once again our executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth

2:26:14 Order! Shut up, slave. That's right noagendadonations.com that is where... what happened to oh goodness cover for me for a second John somehow I missed the indie meetup which is a real problem if I don't have the indie meet-up cover for me What do you mean? You don't have the tape Exactly I don't have the tape hold on Hold on. Could you cover in a better way perhaps? I mean... You don't like sound effects? Well, I mean you could say something like, y'know- Oh, I can talk! I can read from the granola package. Oh man, you are... Okay. Well let me take a look How about covering with a clip No we're already done i'm good no that took no time

2:27:07 This is how it rolls. You're the worst! Thank you, yeah I try thank you everybody for supporting us noagendadonations.com that's where you go to send back the value that you receive from the show and you can even set up a recurring donation if you feel so moved any amount any frequency no agenda donations dot com It's your birthday, birthday! Oh so much!

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

Peerage Upgrades, Knighting Ceremony, Upcoming Meetups

Ben Sterling is upgraded to the rank of Viscount, and several new knights are officially brought into the Order of the Heart. The hosts announce a long list of upcoming meetups in locations ranging from Anchorage, Alaska, to Rotterdam, Netherlands. Adam Curry mentions a mini-meetup he attended at Arnold's BBQ in Nashville.

viscount· knighthood· order of the heart· nashville· anchorage· rotterdam

2:27:52 Here we go Our title change today is one, it is Sir Ben Stirling who started out as a baron before this podcast and yes I should remind you to go listen to Just Two Good Old Boys that podcast he does with Sir Gene. And today he ups his peerage to the title of Viscount and we congratulate him with that and say thank you very much for your courage! Behold the Order of the Heart! Pure of purpose, vis right from the start In the morning brave and smart The Order of the Heart

2:28:38 Yes, these are limited titles. They're going fast so get in while you can the knighthood that comes accompanied or an incite donation with a red knight order of the heart pin It's a very handsome pin You'll like it and it goes through Christian Sutton Jensen Vincent James sir Jim Sir Jay Bones and Her-her, Hernán López and we congratulate these brand new red knights who now officially are part of the Order of the Heart! Behold the order of the heart Pure of purpose right from the start In the morning brave and smart The order of the heart

2:29:25 All right, we have two knights to bring into the round table today So if you can grab your blade there and move it around the cable. Here you go Oh yeah very well done didn't hear the mic bump at all Kristen Stanton Jensen and Jim step up on the podium here both of you become knights Knights of the Noah's Dinner Roundtable is a very exclusive club, but $1,000 or more in aggregate gets you there. And I'm very proud to pronounce the K-to-V as Sir Yesir of the You Know Where and Sir J Bones! Both of you now become Knights of the Noah's Dinner Roundtable. You join the knights and the dames. For you we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Harlots & Howledoll. We've got Redheads & Ryes

2:30:06 Beer and blunts, roubinesque, ruben and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka vanilla, bongets and bourbon sparkling cider escort. Ginger ale and gerbils, pressed milk and pablum And as always at the table we've got your mutton and your mead both of you can go to NoahJennerRings.com they are very handsome and all you have to do is give us your ring size. There's a ring sizing guide on the website, and we will send it off to you as soon as possible. Give us an address obviously, and congratulations! Welcome to that exclusive club of the No Agenda Knights & Ames Yeah, we had two meetups here in Tennessee. Sir Patrick Coble and Pastor Jimmy and I had a little mini-meetup at Arnold's which is a very cool old school barbecue in the middle of Nashville maybe

2:31:03 the last time we'll ever eat there because the taxes are so high they may have to close it down. But meetups take place all over the world, literally and you can find a meetup near you by going to noagentomeetups.com People...it's not cost, y'know? You just find a place, ya'll agree you're gonna meet there, you hang out, you have a couple drinks, you talk about the world, talk about the show, talk about what's goin on hit people in the mouth and sometimes You send us a meetup report. Here's the latest one, number 75 from Leo Bravo and this is the Meet Up in Los Angeles at Proud Bird Hey everybody it's Leo Bravo at Meet up number 75 at The Proud Bird I'm gonna pass the phone around my friends have things to say Hey John Adams Sir Leah Kimphop here just

2:31:46 here at the Proud Bird mourning the death of Spirit Airlines. Not really. Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, enjoying the plane spotting and the great company? Thank you! Leo Bravo Hey, great meetup you guys got here. It's Proud Bird just doing a little bit of Plain Spot and enjoying some company with some great folks Long live the Constitution! Hey this is Eric just reminding you trains are better than planes Trains good, planes bad I'm interested in the story of the woman who was plunging into a searing manhole I think that anything happens between two consenting adults should stay that way it should not have made the news at all Oh man... horrible This is Angie from The Ranch over here at The Proud Bird hanging out with Leo Bravo In the morning

2:32:29 In the morning! See that's what I'm talking about. You bring in your server, that makes it... That makes the whole meetup report perfect and i'm sure Daymonet did the same at the Indie Meetup for May Hello this is Daymaria And Sir Mark We have a small meetup today But PeePee's amazing as always. Come on, come on next month. Man this is Emily your shufflecrack spook insert something fun here. Brewski here just enjoying some beers with the bald bros. Syrup of the maple here in Indianapolis attending my monthly amygdala size regulation meetup. My name is Toni I'm from Louisville Kentucky and honestly too shy to be here

2:33:07 and too gay. This is Katie from St Joseph's Public House & Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana serving up the No Agenda group. Live from Indianapolis, the home of the greatest spectacle and racism... Gentlemen! Start your podcast! You notice how the servers over there at the brew house in Indianapolis they really get into it I think they have their own contest who can sound the coolest on The Meter purport Good job, I appreciate it As a meetup taking place today in New Jersey, Keyport New Jersey to be exact. The We Drink and We Know Things is probably underway as we speak the I Need A Drink edition at 3BR Distillery

2:33:50 Also starting today and just a bit from now, the No ID pop-up that'll be at the Alibi Room in Vancouver British Columbia in Candanavia. Memorial Day! That is tomorrow the Monday Madness in Squim 333 Pacific at Barhop Brewing & Squim if you want to know about Value for Value book publishing go talk to Mimi she will be there I'm sure she'll be bringing some of her too many eggs dot com books And then coming up on the 30th, Anchorage Alaska. We have Ukraine, excuse me on the 6 of June Bila Turska Kiev Oblast

2:34:25 Boise, Idaho on the 13th. Franklin Tennessee in the 13th Indianapolis Indiana again on June 14 Charlotte North Carolina on the 18th at June 26 Rotterdam in The Netherlands July 11 Eagle Idaho and then we're into August September October you can find all of these listed at no agenda meetups calm Please consider going to one of these you will not regret it I've never heard anyone say I went to a meet up and it's so even if there was one person one other person there people always seem To enjoy it enjoy it So go find one near you, noagentomeetups.com If you feel moved to start one yourself that's really easy Just set it up, list it at noagentemeetups.com and watch the fun happen What could possibly go wrong? It's always a party! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

Salt Substitutes, K-Love Awards, End of Show Mix

John Dvorak provides a "Tip of the Day" regarding salt-free seasoning, recommending Badia Complete Seasoning for heart patients. Adam Curry prepares for the K-Love Awards at the Grand Ole Opry, noting that the event will air on TBN. The episode concludes with a custom music mix by Molly Berry and a sign-off from both hosts.

badia seasoning· salt substitute· k-love awards· tbn· molly berry· end of show mix

2:35:17 You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party... I feel really bad about this, but amidst the hard drive issues, I completely did not get my ISOs So you win It's just a matter of choosing which one. Which one would you like me to play first? Well, I've gone with all celebrities this show Oh nice! So let's start with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Screw Screw your other podcasts This is the best

2:36:00 That's a good one. I like that very good and who is the other celebrity? The other one is Hillary Clinton Wow, the no agenda podcast is too delicious to believe my friend Wow This is it first of all where'd you get these? I did him. You called up Arnold and you called up Hillary? Yeah, hey Arnold can you give me a quickie here? I honestly think Arnold is the better one Screw your other podcasts this is the best Okay fine That may ever be an Evergreen that's so good Hey everybody right now it's time for John's tip of the day Great advice for you and me Just The Tip with JC Dee And sometimes Adam

2:36:46 Okay, since I'm a heart patient. I have to have no salt in my diet basically for the next year or two. That's horrible. Probably forever. Yeah And so i've had to come up with ways of seasoning food that you know and other people need to go on lower salt they need to know these things And so I found a couple of products which are quite good salt substitutes. This is very good tip for people who can't... Now, why can't you have salt? What is the reason? What does salt do to the heart? It changes your electrolytic balance. How's that bad for your heart? It makes your regular heartbeat. Oh okay! That wouldn't be good. No. So that's one in many things. Also hard on kidneys and has all kinds issues. Okay

2:37:36 Now, I had a Goya Sisondo Total or whatever picked some time ago but I'm gonna bump that and go with Badia Complete. No added salt. This is the badia seasoning from the Mexican food provider. It's a seasoning by the biggest container of it you can find usually in a Mexican store And it, actually Brennan has said that it saved my palate is using this stuff on everything. It is a terrific all-purpose seasoning. What does it taste like?

2:38:16 Well, if you smell it you can smell all kinds of stuff in it. It's got garlic and onions...it has the basic things that are also kosher for people who worry about that. Our Jew money people will be happy! Yeah, its kosher and just a terrific garlicky, oniony cinnamon. Its got all kinds of stuff in it It's an all-purpose seasoning, you dump it on everything and use it generously. Have you considered MSG? MSG is sodium Oh that's right of course, it's multi glutamate sodium glucoacademy

2:38:59 Yeah. What is it again? What is MSG again? Monosodium glutamate That's what it is Okay, give me the name of this product again because I may have to try that It sounds good Oh you'll love this stuff. It's Badia B-A-D-I-A Badia Saison Completa And just says complete seasoning And when you go to a Mexican Mercado or Supermercado, they will have the big giant containers of it. Ask for it by name at your local Mercado! Yeah... It's great I might try that, sounds good Hey this is just one of the many tips of the day You can find it at noagendafund.com and tipsoftheday.net Created fast for you and me Just The Tip with JC Dee And sometimes Adam

2:39:50 Created by Dana Brunetti. Well there we go perfect timing because I need to get my My fancy suit on for the big K-Love Awards tonight at the Grand Ole Opry. You gonna be presenting? You know they have podcast awards, and they've never asked me never even considered to have me Present and this is my third year of being there so no it will not people just be in the audience You just be a schmuck in the audience? Well, I'm with the most... Do you get a go bag? There's no there's no swag bag any of that. No! What?! No but we will worship God this is the good news lots of Jesus. That's cheap. Okay

2:40:35 I think it airs on TBN next week or something. So, I could actually tell you the winners on Thursday but i might not. Oh and then we can bet on them in the betting market! End of show mix is coming up by Molly Berry just Baker and MVP is back So enjoy that and coming up next on the NOA agenda stream, if you're still listening through your modern podcast app Mutton Meat & Music, Oysteen Berge will bring you—will spin the tunes for you. They're all value for value as well Coming to you from the live music capital of the world, Nashville Tennessee in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from the refinery row in northern San Francisco Bay I'm John C Dvorak Remember us at noagenthedonations.com until Thursday adios mofos a hooey hooey and such

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2:45:36 The facts are just the facts, they don't care how you feel. They're heavy and they're sharp and they are completely real but the panic is a ghost that you invited to the room on the table singing anthems of our doom. Don't get spun up just because the spin cycle starts, don't tear down bridges just because the pressure smarts it's a fact its a heavy bear to stream no agenda from almost anywhere to keep our feet on the ground before we tear the whole house down. Don't get spun!

2:46:37 Screw your other podcasts. This is the best