Episode 1827 · Sunday, 21 December 2025

CIS-Lunar

A massive document dump reignites the Epstein controversy while Hollywood reels from a family tragedy and the White House shifts space policy toward permanent lunar bases.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1827

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The Department of Justice released hundreds of redacted Jeffrey Epstein files following a congressional mandate, sparking immediate backlash over transparency. Representative Thomas Massie and other critics noted that many pages were entirely blacked out, while NBC News reported that over a dozen photos, including images of Donald Trump, were briefly posted and then deleted. This latest document dump has reignited theories regarding Epstein’s role as a financial middleman for intelligence agencies like the CIA and MI6.

In other domestic developments, Nick Reiner faces two counts of first-degree murder for the stabbing deaths of his parents, Hollywood director Rob Reiner and his wife. The tragedy followed a reported altercation at a Christmas party hosted by Conan O'Brien. Meanwhile, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem paused the Diversity Immigrant Visa program after the Brown University shooter, Claudio Neves Valente, was identified as a lottery recipient. In the energy sector, Maryland farmers are battling utility companies over high-voltage power lines intended to feed AI data centers in Northern Virginia, as rising electricity costs hit consumers in California and beyond.

International tensions remain high as U.S. negotiators meet with Russian and Ukrainian envoys in Miami to discuss peace terms while Vladimir Putin maintains a defiant stance in Moscow. On the cultural front, Jake Paul suffered a broken jaw in a Netflix-streamed boxing match against Anthony Joshua, and the Philadelphia Flyers broadcast team dealt with a hot mic incident involving a crude technician joke. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down these stories through the lens of media deconstruction and the Value for Value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1827 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1827 of the No Agenda podcast on Sunday, December 21, 2025. Curry broadcasts from the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region 6, while Dvorak reports inclement weather from Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts prepare to deconstruct media coverage of the week's top stories, including the Jeffrey Epstein document release.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· texas hill country· silicon valley· no agenda

00:00 Israeli moon bases. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And Sunday December 21st 2025 this is your award winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1827 This is no agenda. Redacted and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the weather is inclement I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning Yes, inclement weather. Inclement weather... Does that mean it's kind of grey? Wet. Wet and grey. Beautiful here today 68 degrees blue sky no chemtrails just perfect Just perfect Perfect for a day of media deconstruction Sounds like it Oh man

00:58 So much to talk about. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein! Oh no, Epstein! Oh, but Epstein... Is anyone really surprised that there was nothing there? Why are people so mad? Because they— Well I have a couple of reports and the thing's obvious that that the only reason they wanted Epstein stuff, in fact this was I think from the BBC. Epstein if you listen to the report from actually PBS list of report PBS won this clip he can tell what would be only reason for the whole

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Department of Justice Releases Redacted Jeffrey Epstein Files

The U.S. Department of Justice released hundreds of heavily redacted pages regarding convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein following a law passed by Congress. Representative Thomas Massie criticized the release for failing to comply with transparency requirements, noting that many pages were entirely blacked out. Media reports from PBS and Reuters focus on potential links to Donald Trump, while the DOJ maintains that redactions are necessary to protect victims.

jeffrey epstein· department of justice· thomas massie· pbs· redactions

01:37 Inquisition about the Epstein files is revealed right here. Overnight, the Justice Department released hundreds more heavily redacted pages of material it had gathered on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein Still what's been made public so far falls well short of the full disclosure required by a law Congress passed last month These new releases come in addition to the thousands of pages of photos, correspondence and other material released on Friday afternoon. And the Justice Department says there will be much more to come in the coming weeks Among the latest batch released around midnight is a phone message slip that reads she has females for Mr. J E

02:19 Jeff Mason is a White House correspondent for Reuters. Jeff, these new files or the files even though were released yesterday tell us a lot about more detail about Jeffrey Epstein but does it tell us anything about his relationship with Donald Trump? With President Trump Get to it, get to it. I have a couple of another just two more clips but before we play that did you see the did you see Clinton's response to this when he was interviewed on one of the shows? No I didn't. Yeah here is Clinton on Epstein read listen to this okay Democrats thought they could finally get Trump with the Epstein files but instead all they got was pictures of you buck naked in the jacuzzi with some girls

03:02 Aren't you afraid of being arrested? Well, to be honest I'm more afraid of that crazy bitch waiting for me back home. I'm not going back That bitch kills people she even killed Jeffrey fuck that Okay Can I stay your place? Okay Let's just slow down a bit Even that AI stuff is getting a little old and it wasn't all that good You know what, I agree It wasn't that good but I thought I'd slip it in By the way he wasn't buck naked He was wearing swimming trunks you can obviously see them Yeah, I'm glad you corrected the AI on that. Yeah well wherever you rip that off of like whatever hilarious podcast that put that together and slaved over it

03:47 Okay, back to PBS and Trump. Very little and that's one thing that people were maybe anticipating getting more information on but the files have some mentions of Trump and some conversations but no photos one of the pieces of evidence that people were expecting was not in release and in general the files were focused on other people in Jeffrey Epstein orbit and not the current president United States Even with that, this is now going to be spread out over several weeks. It's not going to be a one day story, one day headline. Does the White House have a strategy to deal with that? Well their strategy so far has been largely to say A, they are being very transparent by

04:34 taking or doing these document release and following the law. A statement from a White House spokeswoman yesterday pretty much said just that, and accused Democrats of not answering questions about their connections with Jeffrey Epstein. I think broadly the White House would be happy for this whole issue to go away and that is evidenced by the fact that President Trump spent months trying to prevent these documents from coming out. That led to a lot of discord within his MAGA base and led to some divisions within Congress amongst Republicans. In the end, they ended up passing this law and the president signed it. But some Democrats and in fact at least one Republican are saying that the administration did not follow the law with its limited release on Friday." Oh brother! Don't they understand how this works by now? Like of course you don't put everything out You give them a first stuff everyone's disappointed following the law victims are protected What's a victim not defined anybody can be a victim

05:34 And they put Copperfield in there, they got all the people they wanted. Luc Brunel, Jean-Luc Brunel... It's like what were you expecting? An entire trove of pictures of these dudes having sex with kids? I want to see them videotapes! I don't care what YOU say! There are victims in those video tapes, you can't show that No, I think I know what's going on here. But oh wait until you're finished with your let's just play clip three and then then that would Well, one of those Republicans is the co-sponsor representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He tweeted today that the release grossly fails to comply with the law What can they do? Can they go to court and sue over this well? That's a good question I don't know if that's something that they're thinking of doing certainly I do know because this is where the justice

06:28 Department has said is that they're planning to release more, but they are saying that there are so many things that have to go through that they just couldn't basically do it all in one batch. But as you say even the co-sponsor of the bill on the Republican side, Congressman Massey is upset about that And also these documents are so heavily redacted. There's some pages that are just totally black from being inked out. Is anybody talking about that or complaining about that? Yes, there are concerns about that I think in one case there were 100 pages of grand jury testimony that were redacted now The law allows the Justice Department to release

07:10 some of the files with redactions in specific instances, with regard to victims of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. With regard to abuse but the amount of the redactions surprised people who were expecting to get more information than they felt they received And the law actually says they can't redact to protect the reputation of anybody. Do we have any idea when these additional files are going to be released in the future? All we know is that they'll be coming out in batches in the coming weeks So I would expect that journalists like ourselves will be watching this story over the holidays and probably well past that. And some of the questions that people were hoping to get answered in this first batch are the ones that will continue to be asked in terms of connections that other people had, and knowledge that other people had of Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes. Batches, batches, lots of batches.

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

NBC News Analysis of Deleted Epstein File Photos

NBC News reported that over a dozen photos briefly appeared on the DOJ website before being deleted without explanation, including images featuring Donald Trump. The document dump included grand jury testimony from a victim describing how Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell lured her into their circle in 2005. Critics argue the DOJ is using editorial discretion to protect powerful figures rather than following the spirit of the transparency law.

nbc news· ghislaine maxwell· donald trump· doj· transparency

08:08 Yeah, I mean this is this was the obvious result to be expected and but they're going a little bit further Let's just troll everybody a little bit more. Oh! Oh no, that... we'll take that one down. Oh no 16 are gone what's going on? They were all Trump. Tonight questions for the Department of Justice around their initial release of the Jeffrey Epstein files More than a dozen photos that were available on the DOJ site Friday and disappeared without explanation including a photo of President Donald Trump. Here is few examples of Trump appearing in the documents release

08:46 NBC News has asked DOJ why the files were deleted and have not heard back. It comes as the Department of Justice released never-before seen grand jury testimony, including from a witness who described how Epstein and his partner Ghislaine Maxwell lured her into their orbit. The unnamed victim We're calling a situation in 2005 where at the age of 14 Epstein convinced her to give him a massage for $200 bucks. The massage quickly turned sexual and she was told quote, the more you do the more you make stories like this reminder of that's the same for podcasts. The more you do, the more you make or you do, the more you make

09:28 Stories like this, a reminder of the horror of Epstein's crimes for the survivors demanding transparency. Some saying at this point they feel like it is not enough. It failed in our book we haven't received full transparency it's heavily redacted and its an incomplete release of files. Some Republicans Democrats and survivors are warning that DOJ that they're not living up to the law passed almost unanimously by Congress The department says they'll release all the files within the next two weeks. An NBC News analysis of the material shows that in the first release, more than 680 pages have been redacted. So no surprise at all that we saw heavy redactions from DOJ because they had a lot of editorial discretion in this case But Congress believes they deserve an explanation and plan to keep the pressure on the DOJ to make sure everything that should be made public is I do think there's more here and it's worth more investigations

10:27 get to the bottom of this and put this to rest and respect the victims. No, Massey and Ro-corana what do we call them? Rokana. Corana! That's even better, corana they wrote this law I mean if you look at the law this was the obvious result that was going to take place i don't know if they're in on the gag here by the way they're not batches now i'm surprised that PBS doesn't know what they're actually called They did dumps. They call them dumps, big massive dumps. Dumps not batches! Dump you dummies! So a couple of things about the law... You know if you don't write the law with enforcement

11:12 Enforcement, uh... Like penalties. Within the law. Penalties and enforcement like creating an agency to enforce the law or a group or somebody Nothing's gonna happen! Nothing is going to happen so it should have had an enforcement clause what this has to be enforced in such a way by such as such a person And the penalties for not following the law would be you know 15 years in prison and blah blah blah whatever They didn't put that in there. If that's not in there, what's the point? Well the point was is to do exactly what's happening now we need to Continue this has to keep going for I don't know maybe we could keep it going another six months You'll get a little closer to the midterms I've been roll out the last batch dump dump massive dump I'm convinced that Mike bends There's some form of limited hangouts ice. I know I said it and

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Mike Benz SuperStream Analysis of Epstein Financial Networks

An analysis by Mike Benz suggests Jeffrey Epstein functioned as a strategic financial middleman for intelligence agencies, moving money through institutions like Bear Stearns and JP Morgan. The theory posits that Epstein's activities mirrored the BCCI scandal, where banks laundered money for the CIA and MI6. This perspective views the sex trafficking allegations as a potential cover or "limited hangout" for large-scale international money laundering and arms dealing.

mike benz· bcci· bear stearns· jp morgan· intelligence agencies

12:11 And maybe not knowingly, but he did a five-hour what he calls the super stream. I'm doing a super stream everybody! Have you ever seen that guy? I have seen him yes. Yeah. I thought there were...I mentioned him somewhere and then I got condemned for mentioning him By whom? Somebody who condemned me. Oh, a condemner well that's no good and here's the way Mike Ben said it. I've solved it so okay I'll watch your Super Stream then which I did And I think he has the, he got the right information and... He's on the right track. His thesis which you can back up with quite a lot of at least evidence that puts Epstein in the right place at the right time is that he was much more of like a strategic middleman

13:02 And he was doing this back in the day. Well, a little bit probably back in the day we had BCCI now I don't know if everybody remembers the Bank of Credit and Commerce International BCCI which had this spectacular collapse as it turned out, that what this bank was... besides it being pretty much a Ponzi scheme. What they were doing is they were laundering money for intelligence agencies certainly for the CIA MI6 I think I don't know was Mossad in there as well? Everybody! I don't remember if Mossad was involved There's great movie about it called Was It The Internationalist

13:43 It was called the international. Yeah, oh the International they go the International and so if you needed to arm them which is a great movie by the way it's fun movie it's a great movie to watch and it's based on facts truth real story So if you wanted to Arm the Mujahideen Then you'd send the money through BCCI and BCCI would take care of everything now on the US side For our intelligence agencies, in order to move some of that money around we had Bear Stearns. This is where Jeffrey Epstein all of a sudden becomes the rising star doesn't matter how much he steals from his expense account He's a protected man within the bank and he's moving money around this was his talent His talent was

14:33 making all the connections, making sure everything worked getting the money in moving it around. Eventually he moves out to Epstein Island not for privacy for his little sexcapades and by the way he was sick He definitely...He was into all this stuff so I'm sure there's all kinds of ancillary hanky-panky stuff going on And some black male possibly But he also had a bank, U.S Virgin Islands. So he now could move money back and forth. He had no scrutiny. It would seem North Sea Nexus kind of like but not that I want to draw that in per se because it was really for our intelligence. Remember when they were prosecuted you're writing him up for the first prosecution oh no this guy belongs to intelligence yeah he belongs to intelligence! He's moving the money

15:23 And how do you do that? Well, you get rich people to hang around you and rich people love hanging around really rich people. They love doing dumb rich-people things and yeah cool dentist chair I got some ideas we can do with that. Once your that wealthy just become ill and sick and people with power but that was his game then we have 2008 Bear Stearns collapses weren't they the only one that collapsed? No Lehman Brothers Lehman as well So everything had to be moved over to another bank and that was JP Morgan. And that makes total sense in Mike Benz's SuperStream story because there are all these suspicious activity reports, 800 thousand here a couple million there we don't know where it is going and we need some cash pay that person for all we know some of these women involved were carrying cash I think that is much more likely to be the real story

16:22 And maybe, maybe this will come to light. It seems kind of doubtful but the fact that Mike Benz was putting this together on a super stream at the same time these you know these batches or batches were coming out I think that's the real story and if you really think about it The whole pedophiles started, it really was an online thing. There was never any evidence for it. It came on the heels of Pizzagate and there's definitely creepy people involved in Pizzagate you know the Podesta brothers very creepy absolutely And then we just had all you know then it was the Democrats all the Democrats are pedophiles I like the idea of a pedophile cover for a bank scam. I think it's good one

17:19 Yeah, because it draws all your attention. Well it certainly has and of course all we want to see is Trump being a pedophile that's all I want to see! So none of it really seems to pan out ever but maybe someone will be unmasked uncovered? It seems unlikely because what PR value does that even have would people even care Oh, what? He was laundering money for us to pay... arm the Mujahideen or the Iran-Contras. That's boring! Show me the pizza! It is boring. No it's not interesting. And of course Trump can't get a district attorney appointed at the moment everyone stopping stuff

18:04 So I think that this is just going to keep on going. Hopefully there's some sacrificial lamb somewhere along the line at the end that we can point to, just before the midterms? I think that's what the ultimate idea would be and it makes a lot of sense with Maxwell you know That was her family business doing that stuff with Adnan Khashoggi by the way Familiar name? Khashoggi Yeah, the guy they shot. Yeah but his dad was the international arms dealer? Yeah one of the world's richest men. Yeah buddies with Maxwell

18:44 So all of that kind of fits in a lot better than anything else. And, of course when you have this kind of money and Epstein had to have his own cover, I'm an international financier! What does that mean? Well, I finance things internationally. What do you finance? Oh science... MIT Media Lab No he's a bag man He is just the bag man and he probably did a really good job. I am still surprised we don't have anything from Zorro Ranch that seems like that's something that's missing. No one ever talks about it. Zorro Ranch, it seems like that was the real ground zero. The thing that bothers me the most is that he always seemed to be you know never seem to be the head guy and Wexler never comes up in the conversation ever no and Wexler has to be one of the main players here because he's the one who put their house together and who knows what else he did

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Operation Relentless Justice Child Sex Abuse Crackdown

Operation Relentless Justice resulted in the arrest of 293 child sex abuse offenders and the location of 205 victims in a nationwide crackdown. The operation spanned locations including Texas, North Carolina, and Miami, yet received minimal mainstream media coverage compared to the Epstein file release. The hosts suggest the media avoids highlighting ICE successes due to political narratives surrounding the agency.

operation relentless justice· ice· child sex abuse· arrests· texas

19:42 totally could be part of some Moss Yosho organization. It was Wexler's property in New York that Epstein lived in Yes, yeah So but we're also... and you remember then we got the Wayfair? Remember Oh Wayfair! They're shipping kids in boxes You remember that? No, I don't remember that. You know what Wayfair is? Wayfair's the furniture company... Yeah, the furniture company that makes cheap furniture. And they would say look at this cabinet it's priced at $99,000 there's a kid inside! That's why I can't, that's funny you don't remember that. That was a big thing... I wonder do we still have uh... Did we do clips on it? Do even talk about it? Yeah oh no! We definitely talked about it let me see if we find the clip. I don't know may not make them I don't seem to have anything I'm pretty sure we did something on it anyway meanwhile what no one is talking about his operation relentless justice

20:43 which was announced on Friday, 205 child victims located 293 child sex abuse offenders arrested in nationwide crackdown. Seems like that's kind of important you didn't even hear about it? No the mainstream media is focused on Epstein and Trump And this was Texas, Raleigh North Carolina Miami Greggies cult. I mean these are all good names Yeah they can't do... They don't want to... I hate to say this but it seems to be a fact They really don't want even bring it up because it makes them look bad Because they're supporting the idea that ICE are bad people and they should be protested against Let's keep at that

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Media Coverage of Epstein Circle Celebrity Photos

CBS and other outlets highlighted photos of celebrities and politicians found in Jeffrey Epstein's records, including Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Mick Jagger. During an interview, a family member of Virginia Giuffre was observed wearing a monarch butterfly pin, sparking discussion about MKUltra symbolism and psychological programming. The hosts remain skeptical that these photo releases will lead to substantive legal consequences for those in power.

bill clinton· michael jackson· diana ross· mick jagger· virginia giuffre

21:36 So, I think this will just carry on. They'll continue to wait for something on Trump like morons. This is really dumb and we'll see so CBS did say that there were videos released. Did you see, were there no videos that anybody saw? I didn't see any videos. Photos tonight of many of the powerful who ran and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's circle Bill Clinton seems swimming in a pool with Ghislaine Maxwell and another woman with her face redacted. Clinton with another unknown woman on his lap Celebrities too, including Michael Jackson and Diana Ross. Epstein with Mick Jagger and Chris Tucker with Maxwell. Many of the records are heavily redacted and survivors say suspiciously so including Epstein grand jury records We do see Epstein's book of contacts with the name of President Trump his late wife and daughter Ivanka A list of girls or young women listed as masseuses keeps the names private but shows there were more than 250

22:36 How confident are you at the end of the day, at the end of this period? You'll get everything. I don't feel tremendously confident that everything will come out. Survivors including Annie Farmer have been fighting for years for the release of records and say they're frustrated these records are incomplete. There's been a lot of effort and money and time put into redactions not to protect victims but to protect people in power many so these two people there's only hear the woman talking She is a family member of Virginia Guifre, Giffrey. And they both have giant monarch butterfly pins on their sweaters during this interview and we know what that means. Wow! That's pretty peculiar MKUltra It says it's meant to trigger... I mean that's the symbol yeah but what do what is the connection there?

23:31 MKUltra! Like... Yeah, I know but what are they trying to accomplish if true? Oh. Anyone who has information when the minute they see the butterflies their programming and then they're back into brainwash mode that's how it supposedly works now i know you're skeptical I'm very skeptical You're skeptical But it's okay. And Mick Jagger, you know, oh Mick Jagger! Yeah the photos you don't see are the 30 photos of him in concert I mean they clearly went to his concert- went to The Rolling Stones' concert took pictures backstage maybe had a dinner in the hotel Michael Jackson and Diana Ross? Oh yeah they're probably involved You know but see... It seems unlikely Of course

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Alex Jones Criticizes Candace Owens Over Military Claims

Alex Jones released a video from a wooded location criticizing Candace Owens for spreading what he termed "absurd" theories regarding the U.S. military and an Egyptian plane. Jones expressed concern for Owens' mental state and the damage her claims could do to the country. He promised a full report on the matter to be released on Rumble and InfoWars.

alex jones· candace owens· rumble· charlie kirk· egyptian plane

24:23 So cool your jets everybody, you're getting absolutely nothing. Nothing! And everywhere things are going to start falling apart in the potosphere or as you aptly said on Grimerica the podcast circle jerk I think is that what you said? Something like that It was good People reposting it Yeah look at Dvorak's yeah podcast circle jerk Well we're going to complete this circle jerk This came out this morning This is an important information! As most of you that pay attention know, I am not the Internet Police. Was anyone confused? Just want to make sure... Did anyone think Alex Jones was the Internet Police? Okay just checking. I don't infight. I don't try to focus on what other people are theorizing about or doing. I try to focus on what i'm doing Wait wait stop Is he in his car No he's outside though it is one of- The selfie cam

25:21 Yeah, he's in the woods. He's in nature. He's in the wood. Okay. This is latest thing easy Always be behind the table but now it's always in the woods in nature this is important This is what you do and so it was with a heavy heart that I am forced to put out another report Either tonight or tomorrow morning we're adding all information right now a lot more research dealing with Candace Owens Just as soon as the whole Egyptian plane thing gets debunked with all the facts now she's moving something else I'm really worried about her. I'm worried about her and her mind And most worry about the country where this is going it's good to question Charlie Kirk's assassination, I have big questions We know cash fell covered up an investigation to accomplish us. I broke that before hit the mainstream news So I'm not saying no question I Broke that months ago But her latest source in what she's done implicating the US military

26:13 And all this other stuff is just so damaging when you investigate it, it's so crazy. Just like with the Egyptian plane she says she has the metadata then publish it and when she did publish it and they got fact-checked It wasn't accurate Candace we care about you but You just double down again with something even more absurd and I hate watching destroy yourself like this We'll be covering at all where the report was coming out of real options on excellent rumble and then for worse that comes God bless you all. Mainly because Michael Malice said something that I thought was interesting you would find it interesting and and Alex Jones just used the term double down Mm-hmm. So let's play this see Candace did just a little clip from Michael on Owens No, he owns on Piers Morgan This is the this this was to set up

27:20 And you've did that. Yeah, you can have adoptive children. You can call somebody but Brigitte Macron was born a dude named Jean-Michel Trump now and I just feel that I want you to know that Brigitte Macron probably stands peeing up. Probably pee standing up is what I wanna know. The beauty is we have a big bet and we're gonna find out because it's going to court. And you will lose that court case. I think you know you will. I am not going to lose a court case because Brigitte is presenting evidence that Brigitte was born a woman, because that's never even been offered. That's just their PR coming after and saying these things. Nobody believes that Brigitte Macron is just unable to present any pictures. Nobody's asking for blood. Let's wait for the court case. Okay great! You will be proven wrong again unless there's federal corruption. Okay... Federal corruption? She went off

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Michael Malice and the Brigitte Macron Gender Controversy

Michael Malice discussed the conspiracy theory regarding Brigitte Macron's gender during an appearance with Piers Morgan, noting that the claims lack logical consistency. The discussion touched on Candace Owens' tendency to "double down" on controversial stances, which the hosts linked to Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). They analyzed the behavioral patterns of individuals who escalate verbal conflicts when challenged.

michael malice· brigitte macron· piers morgan· candace owens· bpd

26:13 And all this other stuff is just so damaging when you investigate it, it's so crazy. Just like with the Egyptian plane she says she has the metadata then publish it and when she did publish it and they got fact-checked It wasn't accurate Candace we care about you but You just double down again with something even more absurd and I hate watching destroy yourself like this We'll be covering at all where the report was coming out of real options on excellent rumble and then for worse that comes God bless you all. Mainly because Michael Malice said something that I thought was interesting you would find it interesting and and Alex Jones just used the term double down Mm-hmm. So let's play this see Candace did just a little clip from Michael on Owens No, he owns on Piers Morgan This is the this this was to set up

27:20 And you've did that. Yeah, you can have adoptive children. You can call somebody but Brigitte Macron was born a dude named Jean-Michel Trump now and I just feel that I want you to know that Brigitte Macron probably stands peeing up. Probably pee standing up is what I wanna know. The beauty is we have a big bet and we're gonna find out because it's going to court. And you will lose that court case. I think you know you will. I am not going to lose a court case because Brigitte is presenting evidence that Brigitte was born a woman, because that's never even been offered. That's just their PR coming after and saying these things. Nobody believes that Brigitte Macron is just unable to present any pictures. Nobody's asking for blood. Let's wait for the court case. Okay great! You will be proven wrong again unless there's federal corruption. Okay... Federal corruption? She went off

28:22 So can I just say one thing about proof of stuff like that? They humiliated, in fact Kamala Harris I believe, humiliated Michael Jackson and forced him to show his penis to the court. Of course it was you know it wasn't published because of certain distinguishing marks that had been claimed by children he allegedly had sex with or fooled around with Why can't they do the same to Brigitte Macron? They just might. But the point is that they went around a horn and out of the blue at the very end Michael Malice said the following thing that I thought you'd be interested in Before any conspiracy theory, I have to ask myself what would need for this to be true? She has had biological children Yes And they say her brother vanished and now the brother replaced her The brother's still alive Yeah! And he's given interviews So this doesn't make sense on any level Yeah

29:23 It's just like, what is... I mean Is she insane? I think it's BPD And when they have that they always double down Yeah Which is borderline bipolar disorder Borderline personality Oh! Personality disorder Ohhh Okay. I see He said the phrase they always double down Ohh The reason John is bringing this up is my My ex-wife had a I believe, I can't prove it Had this disorder Has and yeah. Well, when he said they always double down and he said it matter of factly in such a way that he's had relationships with the woman I'm guessing or has a relative who has bipolar not bipolar borderline personality disorder the way you set it And then when Alex Jones said double down into clip you played which just kind of backs it up

30:24 I brought it up not to point out anything in your past, but have you noticed the double down thing? What does that even mean? Here's how I experienced it. because it wasn't in the context of doing a podcast, which I saw now. Now I really have to think about it but It would...it wasn't even a double down It was a constant down So something would trigger it and could be the smallest thing and you could see it go from 0 to 150 in 30 seconds And it would

31:01 And then it was just bam, bam, bam. Blah blah. Just verbal over well until it wasn't verbal but verbal verbal and then double down triple down quadruple down this is a bad idea and then poof It would disappear just like snow before the sun and and then the person wouldn't even know actually what had happened So I'm now I have to look at Candace in that light crap now. I got to watch it again So, yes. It's kind of an insane thing like... Yes! I'm right and this is absolutely right This is the truth This is how it is And just keep on going That was what she was doing with Piers Morgan Yeah Got a penis, got a penis, got a penis Alright end-of-show mixers there you go Got a penis, got a penis, got a penis I don't think so

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Nick Reiner Charged with Murder of Rob Reiner

Nick Reiner, the 32-year-old son of Hollywood director Rob Reiner, has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder for the stabbing deaths of his parents. Reports from TMZ and NBC News indicate that Reiner had a history of drug addiction and a prior diagnosis of schizophrenia. Legal analysts suggest the defense is preparing an insanity plea, which could potentially allow the defendant to collect an inheritance despite the crime.

nick reiner· rob reiner· schizophrenia· tmz· insanity plea

31:55 Yeah. Oh, I think so now. I don't think so well that's that and it would make you know in light of her friendship with Kanye that would... oh that's a nice twist yeah that kind of fits in a way yeah Well I guess that could take us right to the new Psy-Up of the day which I think you identified this on X Nick Reiner All of a sudden, all of a sudden. Ah he changed his meds! He did something with his meds. He went crazy. Do you have any clips on that? How do I...I don't think so because this just came up and it came up mostly didn't come in as far as clip are concerned because there wasn't any reports on it except to start showing up and when it showed up

32:47 Bang, bang, bang. Yeah here I have a couple clips on NBC Tonight we're learning more about the mental state of Nick Reiner now charged with two counts of first-degree murder for the killings of his parents Hollywood actor and director Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle A judge in Reiner's case signed a sealed medical order on Friday According to three sources with direct knowledge of the case, the 32-year old was being treated for a serious psychiatric disorder at the time of the crime. The sources tell NBC News Reiner had been diagnosed some years ago with schizophrenia and was on medication which had been changed or adjusted before the killings How does this new information in what we're learning potentially impact the case moving forward?

33:28 It's almost certain that mental health will either be a defense or an issue that is raised right now as far as Nick Reiner's competency to move forward with the legal proceedings. There are very, very complex and serious issues that are associated with this case. Legal analysts say if Reiner does stand trial his defense may be setting the stage for an insanity plea which means that the defendant says I did it but i was insane at the time That is an incredibly high bar Kind of fits with your where did that superstar defend defense attorney come from

34:15 Right, there's a couple of things that can't be explained. Where did that guy come from? I've watched and watched and watched it No one has come up with anybody that referred him or how he got there in the first place The second little thing that keeps cropping up is that if he gets off on a Insanity plea insanity please the only way he can collect any of the inheritance Wow, the perfect crime. So it's a substantial amount of inheritance and is believed that the attorney will get a big piece of it Okay that makes sense

34:51 That makes sense. Yeah, yeah of course So he dreams this up because there is no reference to schizophrenia by the family by Rami by anybody and they ever said well you know He's they always thought it was a violent kid and his in his associates Talked him about talk about him You know in other words as friends had talked about him being kind of a spoiled brat and this sort of thing, and there's no mention of schizophrenia. And it's someone kind of doing like a profile piece on this Reiner kid. And, you know he's a rapper and he's walking down the street and he's spitting lyrics...and it's all in kinda this weird accent. And he says I love Trump, Trump is my boy which I just thought was interesting. He's doing coke, smoking weed but

35:57 Either that was an entire, well if you're schizophrenic I guess that would be an entire personality. He kept that going pretty long but he had hangers on and all kinds of odd people that latch onto a person like this because they can hang out in the guest house Here's KTLA, closer to the source. Prosecutors say 32-year old Nick Reiner murdered his parents stabbing Rob and Michelle Reiner to death in their bedroom The fact that Nick battled drug addiction for much of his life is no secret But now TMZ is reporting citing unnamed sources Unnamed sources? That the troubled son of Hollywood royalty had been diagnosed with schizophrenia

36:38 brain disorder and that medications he was taking were not working properly but making him more erratic, dangerous and out of his head. What's more TMZ says this information points to a defense of not guilty by reason of insanity KTLA spoke with doctors who say the idea that anti psychotic medication can make a patient more violent or dangerous is unbelievable they say a problem would be the absence of medication. The incidence of violence with schizophrenia is basically no different than any other regular human being if you add things like substance abuse not taking medication and other factors dangerous factors does increase the risk of violence, you know on average about across about five years there's an odds of about 2.8 percent of people with schizophrenia will have violent actions compared to 0.8% of regular people

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Conan O'Brien Christmas Party Altercation Details

A report in the Daily Mail alleged that a loud altercation involving Nick Reiner occurred at a Christmas party hosted by Conan O'Brien at a private restaurant. Witnesses reportedly wanted to call 911, but O'Brien allegedly discouraged the call to handle the matter privately. Following the fracas, Nick Reiner reportedly stayed behind to confront other guests before the fatal incident at his parents' home.

conan o'brien· nick reiner· daily mail· page six· 911 call

37:35 So, they're gonna have to prove a lot in court. Interesting report came out today because the Reiners were at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party I thought Conan...I never really pegged Conan O'Brien to be such a Hollywood guy Did you ever think of him that way? Well he was always a writer He was with The Simpsons for awhile Yeah, kind of. But you had to have the Reiners over and the Obamas and I don't think Obama's were there but he has this big Christmas party and so that's where the fracas started It wasn't at his house it was a restaurant Okay, at a restaurant but at his party And it got... Yeah, it was a private restaurant party So according to page 6 Oh actually comes from The Daily Mail even more credible

38:31 that they got so bad and so loud that people wanted to call the police. They wanted to call 911, and Conan said hey this is... well he said it's my house, my party So I don't know if he says is my house There was supposed be a restaurant but could have been his house So he talked everybody out of calling 9-1-1 How do you feel now? If that's true? I don't know if that's even... It's in The Daily Mail man! Yeah, I guess the Reiners left and Rick stayed behind. Nick. Nick. Nick. Rick. Nick stayed behind and started grilling people about if they're famous and he was making a scene of some sort. Yes. D-D-David is his hip hop name. David.

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Philadelphia Flyers Broadcast Hot Mic Incident

During a Philadelphia Flyers game against the Buffalo Sabres, an announcer was caught on a hot mic making a crude joke to a technician during a TV timeout. The comment, "While you're down there, would you mind blowing me," was broadcast over the airwaves. The hosts discuss this as a classic broadcasting trope that occasionally results in professional penalties when captured live.

philadelphia flyers· hot mic· broadcasting· buffalo sabres· nhl

39:25 That's crazy. Well, he'll get some creds Yeah yes Street cred It's all incredibly sad The other M5M fracas This week was the announcers for the Flyers game. Oh my lord, we have to jump in! We have to penalize them for games this is horrible this went out over the airwaves I can't believe what the announcer said on a hot mic did you hear what he said on the hot mic John? No i did not hear what he said on the hot mic Adam In Philadelphia we said sometimes the flyers

40:02 Get a sense of urgency when they're playing from behind now. They're gonna take the TV timeout We'll take it as well seven gone in the third is three to Buffalo on the Philadelphia Flyers broadcast network While you're down there, would you mind blowing me I think we still on the air Tim I love that. This is like the oldest joke in broadcasting, someone's doing some wires or fixing your mic cable... Yeah down to your feet. Everyone has made this joke, hey when you're down there would you mind blowing me? And he says it and they're still on the air and everyone loses their minds! That's every podcast ever. It sounds like it was set up

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Staged Social Media Content and Internet Enshittification

The hosts discuss the rise of staged "viral" videos, such as exploding glitter packages and fake newsroom bloopers, which they suspect are sometimes produced by entities like Amazon Studios. They explore the concept of "enshittification," where social media platforms deteriorate due to an influx of AI-generated "slop" and low-quality content. The conversation touches on Section 230 and the legal necessity of liability protections for internet platforms.

amazon studios· ai slop· tiktok· section 230· social media

40:51 Mmm, no I can see that happening. The problem is having now as i'm having trouble with the setup stuff that i'm seeing way too much of but how do you get well the best example is the person going up to the porch picking up a package the package they run out to their car and the package blows up and throws paint all over them the car or the whole area most of those are AI Well, most of those are bullcrap. I mean there's one original guy... And there's hundreds of them! No those are all bullcrap but there is one original guy who really put in the work with a technology and had you know pumps and all kinds of stuff to spray fart spray that guys fantastic Yeah well it has become a joke and it's like and I think its being done by Amazon Studios

41:39 Oh, that would make sense wouldn't it? Yeah to keep people from stealing packages. And I think it's pretty... and there is another fake one thats going around. I've seen at least four examples It's a newscast, supposedly the eyewitness crime report or something. Its always got the same set sometimes two different people And then they have, and then they show a picture of a...and then we have a drawing of the suspected assailant. Then they put a picture up and it's some stupid drawing like just a round face with two dots for eyes. Oh oh with the hair on the side of the head? Or whatever! Yeah. Then they show the guy and it's the same guy and they crack up and one of them falls off his chair

42:23 I have seen four versions of this. And it's always the same set, there is no reference to any station... It's bullcrap! There is so much bullcrap being put on these- Wait wait are you telling me that AI slop is ruining your social media experience? No I don't think this was AI, I think this was done staged. It doesn't have to be AI. I think you're underestimating AI This stuff has gotten pretty good This doesn't look like AI to me, but whatever the case. It's just another phony baloney thing but the package is blowing up it's completely out of control and then they have one where the electricity starts in this and you can see that person in fact they see somebody lift a package there's nothing in the packages obviously You can't have a gallon of paint A gallon of paint weighs a lot I don't know if anyone has picked a gallon of paint up But its not like light

43:18 So I'm seeing more and more of these staged, which throws me...which you should follow up with. You should say to me well don't you think some of these women that you keep putting on the show or the TikTok complainers are phony? Well, why would I do that if you're doing my work for me? I'm doing your work for you because this is I was watching a couple today And it was like. I don't think so no of course not and even the ones that are real They're just very sad very lonely people who just want some likes to feel warmth That's all this becoming its becoming a

43:57 An embarrassing mess. A nuisance? It's a nuisance! Actually, on my feet it is a nuisance. Well you... I mean this is like the same thing you pointed out which are these cooking demos. Mmm yeah. Where somebody dumps a bunch of crap in a pan and they start stirring up and then they put tons of cheese and they mix them and throw this in cans of this and that and mix it up And then they serve to the kids who go yum! And its just gross whatever it is. Its great The Internet is deteriorating. Well, it's you know that has a term and shitification That's the that's the term but yeah It's This is exactly what this is this is entropy of the social networks We don't even need I for AI for it once you let everybody go man as a huge conversation or podcast index dot social

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Deteriorating Social Conditions in Rotterdam and the Netherlands

Adam Curry shares "boots on the ground" reports from his daughter regarding the decline of Rotterdam, describing it as a "narco state" plagued by drug-related bombings and a severe housing shortage. The report highlights tensions over asylum seekers receiving free housing while Dutch citizens face strict salary requirements and work-hour limits. A specific incident is cited where an attacker shouting "Allah Akbar" received no jail time due to a mental health ruling.

rotterdam· netherlands· asylum seekers· housing shortage· narco state

44:55 Like, well the Americans with a section 230 blah blah. I said listen without Section 230 there would be no social media networks period it wouldn't happen There's no way that There will be too many lawsuits and tort and light libel and it would never ever end Well, if you're Americans you can be that... Here in Australia we have sensible laws. You can't say Nazi." I said, oh you mean they don't have free speech over there? They all think it's about what you can say. Man my daughter is here! She and her fiancé Kevin are giving me boots on the ground of Rotterdam Holy crap

45:46 First of all, it's a complete narco state. Everybody is involved in the drug trade one way or the other If they're an accountant they're an accountant for drug pushers dealers wholesalers whatever Of course the macro mafia It's a lot of Moroccans who are mainly in the drug trade but not exclusively One building a week as being blown up just that whole building all drug-related. There are schools that are for Muslim children only, they don't learn Dutch they only learned Arabic. They honor killings our regular business

46:32 Of course, all the asylum seekers are all getting housing free in a market where there's 400,000 home shortage for the Dutch. These kids they want to two bedroom apartment they can't actually find one because there's you know the minute it goes on the market this 10,000 people ahead of them within five minutes and then you have these required salary...you have to prove Salary requirements, if we're a two bedroom apartment together you have to make 115 thousand euros a year? Well no. And I said well can't you work more and then just get up to that level? Oh no the law says you can't work more than 32 hours a week! Even if you want to work harder to make more money you can't No, because that's a thirty-two hour workweek for everybody

47:31 Justice is completely gone. Like there was some asylum seeker who he stabbed multiple people, killed one of them. Evidence in court showed they've been watching extremist imams and ISIS beheading videos He watched videos in preparation of his attack Had Islamic chants on his phone that he played over his own little loudspeaker, shouted Allah Akbar while pulling out two knives stabbing random tourists. What does he get? No jail time because of his mental condition. I mean wow! So i don't even know how it got there but

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European Union Loan Deal for Ukraine Funding

EU leaders at a summit in Brussels reached a deal to provide billions of euros in loans to Ukraine, backed by the European Union budget. The loan is intended to be repaid using interest from 200 billion euros in frozen Russian central bank assets. Critics argue this is a form of "word salad" to justify the indefinite seizure of Russian assets, which may discourage future international investment in Europe.

european union· ukraine· russian assets· brussels· loan

48:17 What were we talking about? Insanity. You talked about your daughter came and was visiting, and you got it earful And then I said what yeah, I triggered it Yeah, like remember what was going on before that well we were talking about something else yes something important So on top of all that they're going to steal more of their money as we have a final decision, the final deal. We figured out how to do it. We know how to fund Ukraine! All eyes were on Brussels as EU leaders met for a make-or-break summit determined to find a way to lend billions of euros to Ukraine by the early hours of Friday a deal was done As a matter of urgency we will provide alone back at

49:04 Backed by the European Union budget, this will address the urgent financial needs of Ukraine. And Ukraine will only repay this loan once Russia pays reparations Until then the immobilized Russian assets will remain immobilized and the union reserves its right to make use of cash balances to finance the loan The main option had been to tap some of the 200 billion euros of Russian central bank assets frozen in the EU. But that scheme fell by the wayside when Belgium's PM pushed back, his country hosts a bulk of their assets and feared Moscow retaliation in the courts or perhaps by other means Germany's Chancellor called this decision a show of Europe's independence

49:56 Today we were really put to the test. We are confronted with a question of whether we really understood the challenges of geopolitics, whether we really saw the provocations of a new world order and whether we had anything to counter them with? And I want to say that the answer is resounding yes." The EU says Ukraine needs another 135 billion euros to stay afloat over the next two years and the cash crunch could hit as soon as April So, here's how I understand this deal. Instead of just stealing the money they've now come up with some word salad first of all because of the powers they have under emergency situation They no longer have to re-ratify every six months that the Russian assets are frozen so now they're frozen indefinitely

50:46 Instead of stealing the money, we're going to take the money and call it a loan backed by the European Union's own budget money. And Ukraine gets that loan then doesn't have to pay it back unless Russia pays reparations which they'll never do. Of course they'll never do that and that would Russia be paying their own pocket to get the money that was essentially stolen in the first place So they are stealing the money. They're just calling it a loan I don't know if the international financial people see it that way, but this is This is just a different wording for we're stealing it Well somebody pointed out that this is going to... I mean the Europeans have to realize That this is not the way to encourage people to invest in Europe

51:39 Well, so that they've taken a different track. They're gonna steal your money Yeah, you send your money over there and then there's basically nationalize your money That's exactly what they did. That's what they did yeah and called it alone I didn't steal your money man. I just borrowed it temporarily okay homes don't work Can I get it back? No you can't get it back no no I'm waiting for those guys to pay it back Then you have my money And you haven't given it back this like this is This is no good But at the same time, don't worry citizens because we're pretty much on track. We've approved the digital euro will start rolling it out 2027-2029 It'll be in full effect and your money belong to Fifi Lagarde I know these are important moments

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Christine Lagarde and the Digital Euro Rollout

European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde discussed the progress of the digital euro, framing it as a necessary "digital anchor" for the financial system in the digital age. The ECB aims to roll out the central bank digital currency (CBDC) between 2027 and 2029, promising it will be user-friendly and private. The hosts express skepticism regarding the privacy claims and the potential for new types of digital financial scams.

christine lagarde· digital euro· cbdc· european central bank· privacy

52:24 for the digital euro because we have uh we have done our work with carried the water carry it's now for the uh for the european council and certainly later on for the european parliament isn't carrying water typically seen as a negative he's carrying water for putin yeah yes it's a negative uh is that It's a, what do you call it when you soft pedal the negative comment? Bullshit. No, no something else there is term I'm looking for. Pardon me Lord yeah all right let's go back. Work we've carried the water but it's now for the European Council and certainly later on for the European Parliament to identify whether the Commission proposal is satisfactory how it can be transformed into a piece of legislation or amended

53:16 Our ambition is not to be role models. Uh-huh our ambition is to make That's great hey, we don't want to be role models here We're gonna actually screw you so it's not we're not a role models were just thieves our ambition Is not to be role models our ambition is to make sure that in the digital age there is a currency that is the anchor of stability for the financial system. For the moment, that anchor is central bank money which essentially has material form. It's the bank notes you have in your wallet

53:54 But in the digital age, it has to be a digital expression of that sovereignty and a digital anchor for the purpose of... Around your neck? Wait wait back it up. Does she say it has to be? Let me listen again. It has to be a digital expression of that sovereignty and the digital anchor. It has to be it has to be... Stop a second, what does it have to be? A digital... She says it has to be oh in the digital age it has to be... You know she says a digital expression

54:30 of your central bank. It has to be, it has to be! What does it have to be? What makes it have to be? Listen she's wearing a green sash like she belongs to Starfleet Command...it's really insane with this woman's fashion choices like a broad one of those Miss Universe type sashes only its green and has some kind of nondescript bug on it She feels like Captain Pike, you know. It has to be a digital expression! But in the digital age, it has to be a digital expression of that sovereignty and a digital anchor for the purpose of the financial system that we have. So that's what we're pursuing in addition to making sure that it is user-friendly not costly fast efficient private

55:25 that it can work online, offline. I mean i could go on and on because you know that I follow that very carefully with my Italian colleagues and both Louis and myself are very strong supporters of this initiative and we place great hopes in the work that will be done in Parliament once the Council has made its view, determined its views. That's I mean it is a literal central bank digital currency, but don't worry. It'll be private You can you even if you're offline? You can exchange it with people will sync it back up later Yeah What could go wrong with that seems highly unlikely But sounds like a good way to rob them I mean seriously If so if I buy something and my phone is an offline mode or I exchanged something with you And I just trash the phone. I'm good to go aren't I oh

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Russia-Ukraine Peace Talks in Miami and Moscow

U.S. negotiators met with Russian and Ukrainian envoys at a gated golf course in Miami to discuss potential peace terms. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin held a four-and-a-half-hour televised Q&A in Moscow, where he blamed Western "opponents" for the ongoing conflict and rejected responsibility for future casualties. President Zelensky indicated that any territorial concessions would require a national referendum in Ukraine.

vladimir putin· volodymyr zelensky· marco rubio· miami· peace talks

56:25 I'm sure there's better scams than that, but this is scammable. Possibly... I mean the printed bills are scammable they have to counterfeit them it's a lot of work but i think this is going to ease it make it easier for especially the people that are talented black hat types and I'm sure it's all gonna run on XRP so everybody with XRP you're gonna be a billionaire Yeah, so amidst all of that I'm just gonna bop back to Russia for a second. Looks like peace talks are not really moving the way they wanted at Steve's club in Miami? What? I was going to say they're not moving it all is just a lot

57:11 drinking. A gated golf course in Florida becomes the latest hub to host these talks as US negotiators meet separately with both sides to try to end the war Russia's envoy spoke briefly to reporters after arriving in Miami The discussions are constructive they began and continued on Saturday and will also continue on Sunday thank you very much Speaking in Kiev, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the US to put more pressure on Moscow. America must clearly say if not diplomacy then there will be full pressure There will be a very strong weapons package for Ukraine There will be a very strong support for Ukraine The United States will impose sanctions fully on the entire economy On all sectors that bring money to the Russians Without this

57:59 It's simply impossible. Putin does not yet feel the kind of pressure that should exist." For months, the Trump administration has led high-profile talks while Kiev has made some concessions Russian President Vladimir Putin made it clear on Friday he is not in the mood to negotiate We are ready and willing to resolve the conflict by peaceful means on the basis of the principles that I set out in June last year at the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and provided that the causes that led to this crisis are eliminated. For both sides, that means territory. The US is proposing security guarantees for Ukraine but Kyiv would need

58:41 land, something Zelensky said on Saturday would have to be put to the Ukrainian people in a referendum. Hold on a second he can't hold elections but a referendum is no problem? Why does no one ever question that little tidbit? That's a good catch President Putin wants the whole of the Donbass region and more, and says Russia can take it by force if Kiev doesn't cede to Moscow's terms. Europe! They're all sigh-yawping this tiny dancer... Say no, say no son, say no! Just keep saying no! We got your back our kids are ready to die for you! No! Well it's a question how long how much longer this can continue? Well this money is gonna run out

59:28 Yeah, because it doesn't get used for anything other than lining people's pockets. Yeah the stealing is no doubt...no doubt. See there was one more clip here I think it was the BBC, or was it NBC? Somebody asked Putin. Putin did another one of those five-hour TV shows He's more than... he's like Trump! I think Trump got it from him like hey I can do that but I just don't own a station yet. Our Keir Simmons is in Moscow tonight and questioned Vladimir Putin directly. You pressed him on President Trump's peace plan That's right Tom, President Putin answering questions for four and a half hours. Another Brit! Calling claims Moscow is planning to attack Europe nonsense and promising there will be no more wars after Ukraine if Russia is treated with respect And with more talks underway I asked him about president Trump's push for peace

1:00:22 If you reject President Trump's peace offer Will you be responsible for the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians in 2026? A whole question is that I mean seriously, how are you supposed to respond oh yeah? I take full responsibility for everyone who dies. That's right Russians in 2026. We do not consider ourselves responsible for the death of people, it wasn't us who started this war. The ball is entirely in the court of our Western so-called opponents It was Russia that invaded Ukraine in 2022, Tom. And Secretary of State Marco Rubio said today the US is not pressuring either side just trying to see if a deal is possible President Putin says Russian forces are advancing on the battlefield while today Ukraine said it had hit a Russian oil tanker. Tom?

1:01:22 So, yeah that's enough. That's all we have they stole the money they called it a loan it's just great because so I wish that something would kick off so the kids wouldn't even be able to go back I'll just keep them here you're gonna have to tie him up they're gonna go back Yeah I know...I know.. So let's say I have some clips from the Brown University killer thing that this is interesting case Yeah, and here's the thing I named. I've had three clips and this they're all called brown killer far-fetched Yes, so it did in other words everything seems pretty screwy if he had this whole thing seems like

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Brown University Shooting Suspect Found Dead

Claudio Neves Valente, a former Brown University PhD student, was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in a New Hampshire storage facility following a shooting at Brown University. Valente is also suspected of murdering MIT nuclear science professor Nuno Loureiro, with whom he had academic ties in Portugal. Police credited a "homeless hero" for providing a crucial tip that led to the discovery of the suspect's vehicle.

brown university· mit· claudio neves valente· nuno loureiro· rhode island

1:02:04 It doesn't sound right, it doesn't make sense and they're all going you know wiping their hands. We did it we're good we're good to go let's end this whole thing and do something else but listen here we go with part one The suspect in the Brown University campus shooting and the murder of a professor from Massachusetts Institute of Technology has been found dead in New Hampshire. We brought you that here on Fox, authorities say Claudio Neves Valente died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound he's a former student at Brown with ties to the MIT educator Correspondent Brooke Taylor is in Providence Rhode Island tonight This was always going to be an investigation where something was gonna break it open Providence leaders and police touting themselves for their work after days First of all

1:02:51 What kind of, I've never heard a statement like that. This whole thing was an investigation we knew from the beginning something was gonna break it wide open. I've never heard someone say that We're hoping for a tip or looking for leads were trying to figure this out now we knew something was going to blow this wide open That's your far-fetched bit right there. Correspondent Brooke Taylor... Far fetch one! Yeah, I know. Wait to the rest of it. I know, I know. ...Rhode Island tonight This was always going to be an investigation where something was gonna break it open Providence leaders and police touting themselves for their work after days of criticism for the pace of their investigation and chaotic press conferences

1:03:32 After a six day manhunt across multiple states, police identified a 48 year old former Brown PhD student as the man who opened fire at the Ivy League school last weekend killing two students and wounding nine more. He was a brown student He was a Portuguese national and I will tell you that he took his own life tonight. First reported by Fox, authorities found Claudio Neves Valente dead in New Hampshire storage facility leaving many unanswered questions in a crime spree that investigators say included the murder of an MIT professor in Massachusetts Previously, he attended the same academic program as the MIT professor Nuno Luriero in Portugal between 1995 and 2000. Yeah yeah that was an interesting connection. Yeah and how would they get to that connection so quickly? How did they manage to find this out? I know how! The crack team at Redacted called their sources in Portugal And so we have that issue

1:04:37 And do we have to remember that the guy at MIT was an expert on, he was a nuclear scientist and his specialty was fusion power. Yes This is kind of interesting because all the Iranian scientists have been killed over the years that are working on fusion. Working on one thing or another, so and... Wait a minute! So now you're putting him in the same line as the zero-point energy guys and cars that drive on water? No I don't think zero point energy and fusion energy is the same whatsoever. Fusion is a known technology Right but they are going to disrupt the entire energy system They have to be eliminated

1:05:17 It was the oil companies that killed him. Yes, yes Exxon exactly. Police say a Reddit tipster cracked open the case by posting the suspect's car description Now hold on stop this clip This is great! This is the worst of the most far-fetched I'm gonna preview it for anybody They got a tip from a homeless man who was a Brown University student Living in the basement He was at Brown University Draw no he was a graduate from Brown, but he was homeless because you if we graduated from Brown You can't get work And it just so happened to be in the neighborhood walking around Homeless. He lived in the same area where the killer was he lives in the basement John? He lives in the basement and then he and then he would yeah that's not mentioned in their report Oh, and then he he

1:06:09 Well, he's homeless. He lives in a basement that he has at home Yeah But but he saw the guy and immediately remembered his car for some reason or other I thought it didn't told him about the car and once they knew about the car They get the license plate but he did this by posting it on reddit because the homeless as you know are on Reddit like nobody else I can't say one way or the other, but I do know it's what they train AI on. So it must be good. So let's start this clip to police a Reddit tipster cracked open the case by posting the suspect's car description. He was later identified as the man in these images sources say he's a homeless man and a former Brown University grad. He had an odd encounter with the shooter earlier in the day and remembered what his car looked like

1:07:03 Police used license plate reader cameras to find the car and eventually they were led to the storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire where he was found dead with two firearms nearby. Police say that tip was crucial due to lack of security cameras at the Brown University building So uh... The troll room did immediately show me a homeless subreddit Uh.. Where people who are homeless post So of course that's monitored by the police just in case they post something about the car Well, that's only if they have a case that needs to be broke wide open Yeah, so there. I'm sure that does being monitored 24-7 by though by the police okay? So that makes sense of course the guys found in a shed of storage shed shot yeah That's not suspicious Sorry

1:07:53 Okay, onward. Yeah play the last clip. An autopsy shows that the shooter was dead two days before police found him The big question right now tonight is what is the motive here? Sources say they still don't know there were also no writings found sources Also say that currently officials are going through his credit card transactions just to try to see where he's been in the last few days Okay I have a few clips that will give us some additional information Because I think there was another far-fetched bit, and this concerns what you discussed—what you brought up on the last show that he yelled something. Now, I have to say, you said he probably yelled and killed because he was a Republican hater who killed the Republican girl. But now we know kind of what he yelled.

1:08:47 After a nearly week-long manhunt that left the nation on edge, police have identified the shooting suspect who killed two Brown University students and an MIT professor. Authorities were able to follow his trail thanks to the help of a homeless hero who provided them with key information which led them to a storage facility in Salem New Hampshire. There they found 48 year old Claudio Neves Valente dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound So who was this demented person? who reportedly barked like a dog while he opened fire on his victims. Here's everything you need to know On Saturday, December 13th, a crazed gunman dressed in black stormed an engineering building at Brown University killing two people and injuring nine others In a rampage which left the campus in panic A sophomore Ella Cook and freshman Mohamed Aziz Umurzikov were named as the victims who lost their lives in the horrific massacre

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

The Homeless Hero and the Brown University Investigation

A homeless man named John, who was reportedly living in the basement of a Brown University building, received a $50,000 reward for identifying the suspect's rental car on Reddit. The suspect, Claudio Neves Valente, reportedly made "barking" noises during the shooting and used a phone that masked his location. Investigators found Valente dead with a satchel and two firearms, two days after he had allegedly committed suicide.

reddit· nissan· salem· new hampshire· reward

1:07:53 Okay, onward. Yeah play the last clip. An autopsy shows that the shooter was dead two days before police found him The big question right now tonight is what is the motive here? Sources say they still don't know there were also no writings found sources Also say that currently officials are going through his credit card transactions just to try to see where he's been in the last few days Okay I have a few clips that will give us some additional information Because I think there was another far-fetched bit, and this concerns what you discussed—what you brought up on the last show that he yelled something. Now, I have to say, you said he probably yelled and killed because he was a Republican hater who killed the Republican girl. But now we know kind of what he yelled.

1:08:47 After a nearly week-long manhunt that left the nation on edge, police have identified the shooting suspect who killed two Brown University students and an MIT professor. Authorities were able to follow his trail thanks to the help of a homeless hero who provided them with key information which led them to a storage facility in Salem New Hampshire. There they found 48 year old Claudio Neves Valente dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound So who was this demented person? who reportedly barked like a dog while he opened fire on his victims. Here's everything you need to know On Saturday, December 13th, a crazed gunman dressed in black stormed an engineering building at Brown University killing two people and injuring nine others In a rampage which left the campus in panic A sophomore Ella Cook and freshman Mohamed Aziz Umurzikov were named as the victims who lost their lives in the horrific massacre

1:09:41 The killer managed to escape police and remained at large. The Ivy League campus and parts of the Rhode Island capital of Providence were left under lockdown, in a state of terror as a desperate manhunt was underway. Nothing was known about the shooter whom police have since revealed made a disturbing sound during There is no other spoken word beyond that we are aware of. So he made a barking noise? They changed the story. Oh yeah!

1:10:19 So he goes in there and goes woof, woof, woof. And shoots two people and shoots a bunch of others... Mm-hmm. ...and then rushes off to shoot the professor... Uh huh? ...and then goes through a storage bin and shoots himself. This is bullcrap! Then we have the homeless hero here's some more details on this with ominous music He blew this case right open He blew it open. Blew it, he blew it open! This... You're right this is very far-fetched especially how they speak about it what instead of well what does that? What am I getting feedback from? Instead of saying you know we're really grateful to this man yeah this is a this is how the internet helps whatever he is yeah he blew it wide open

1:11:05 Wait, one more thing. The kind of the giveaway to the far-fetched aspect is the fact that they had a picture of this guy, the homeless man in advance of him posting on Reddit or something because they were, one of their press conferences. We have this unidentified man that may have run into the shooter we don't know if he was working with him or whatever and it was all that in itself was far-fetched it was some guy there was you never saw the two of them together it was just a bunch of rando photos of the homeless man who had to should turn himself into the police and then he posts about

1:11:46 Because the homeless concern is that, oh I saw a guy get in a car. This is bull crap! It stinks! It's not even well written. Glue this case right open He blew it open. The tipster, known only as John turned out to be a homeless man who had been living in the basement of the engineering building at the time sources told Fox News he bumped into Valente and noticed he was acting suspiciously working off John's information authorities tapped into additional surveillance footage that ultimately led them to gunman I just gotta...I can't get beyond the he was living in the university basement so first of all not homeless

1:12:26 by the actual definition, houseless? Maybe that. How do you get to be living in the basement of the university Spool of crap. The homeless hero has now been credited with cracking the shootings as the feds say he is now entitled to the staggering $50,000 reward thanks to John's lead authorities learned that Claudio Neves Valente I didn't even know there was a reward did they put it posted? Yes there was a $50,000 reward and there was a discussion when found the dead guy, but who's gonna get the reward and they finally determined it was going to go to this guy. Ah, the homeless hero! But it didn't lead to the arrest. $1,000 reward thanks to John's lead authorities learned that Claudio Neves Valente rented the gray Nissan in Boston and changed his license plates according to prosecutors he also used a phone that masked his location and had credit cards... Ooh! Masked his location? Do you think he had location off perhaps or...?

1:13:26 I want one of those phones. I want a phone that masks... That's another little trick, explain that to me and also how did they know he changed his plates unless they had pictures of him doing it? Masked his location and had credit cards that weren't under his name the gunman was then connected to the death of Leraro through the rental car and other movements Security footage captured Valente within a half-a-mile of Leraro's home. Authorities also say there is video footage of him entering an apartment building near the location of the professor's apartment. Valente appeared to have shot Leraro, then driven to a rented storage unit in Salem New Hampshire Finally on the night of Thursday December 18th authorities stormed the facility where they found Valente with a satchel and two firearms dead from self inflicted gunshot wound Well he was shot 2 days earlier according to police

1:14:16 So he killed himself two days before they got there, which is like right after the shooting of Professor Y. Why did he go there and do that? What was in the satchel! And what was in this...what's in the satchel?! The satchels new, that's a new piece of information I demand to know what's in the satchel! They keep adding you know this is the kind of thing we always say Who even has a satchel anymore!? I don't even know what a satchel is It's just a butt bag I think A satchel...a satchel Satchel, like boomers have satchels. It's like knapsack he had a knapsack. Knapsacks, people working around knapsacks. Well there is a problem reaction solution to all this I doubt it's related but of course this was the ultimate

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Kristi Noem Pauses Diversity Visa Program

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem confirmed that the Brown University shooter, Claudio Neves Valente, entered the U.S. through the Diversity Immigrant Visa (DV1) lottery program in 2017. At the direction of President Trump, Noem announced an immediate pause on the DV1 program to prevent further harm to Americans. The shooter had previously been in the U.S. on a student visa before obtaining permanent resident status.

kristi noem· diversity visa· green card lottery· homeland security· student visa

1:15:03 the remedy that this is all the result of. Investigators have since revealed that Claudio Nives Valente was a Portuguese national and former Brown University graduate student He also studied in Lisbon with murdered MIT nuclear science professor, Nuno Lerouro between 1995 and 2000 The nature of their relationship remains unclear nor has it been revealed if they stayed in contact Valente was enrolled at Brown University between 2000 and 2001 in a graduate physics program. He primarily took classes at the university's Barris & Hawley building, where he opened fire on students inside of classroom according to Brown University president Christina Paxson It is safe to assume that this man when he was student spent a lot time in that building

1:15:45 Paxson told reporters. The gunman took a leave of absence from Brown University in April 2001 and formally withdrew from the Ivy League University in 2003, he came to the United States from Portugal on a student visa. Valente received lawful permanent resident status In September 2017 officials said Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem confirmed Valente entered the US through the lottery immigrant visa program DV1 in 2017 He was later granted a green card heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country, she wrote. And in a declaration that has implications far beyond this case she continued at President Trump's direction I am immediately directing USCIS to pause the DV1 program to ensure no more Americans are harmed by this disastrous program. By the way, yeah, the green card lottery

1:16:36 Yeah, I know but this is not the problem. No of course it's not the problem but its a disastrous program. This guys like a peaceful character until right now and all of sudden he did this that and other? And then shot himself for some unknown reason you know why could have gotten away with it seems to me what was the storage room being used for? Why was in New Hampshire? This is bull crap! Bullcrap. It's just, I can't... nothing makes sense about it and the fact that they're playing it straight is beyond me yeah they can't come up with something better

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Speculation on MIT Fusion Research and Data Centers

The hosts speculate that the murder of MIT professor Nuno Loureiro might be linked to his expertise in fusion power, a technology that could disrupt the current energy market. They discuss the massive capital expenditures by tech companies like Nvidia on power generation for AI data centers. The theory suggests that a breakthrough in fusion could threaten the economic model of "manufacturing intelligence" currently being built around traditional power grids.

fusion power· mit· nvidia· data centers· energy grid

1:17:12 I don't know either. But, I really don't know but it's... This is probably beyond the shooting in Manhattan of the Blackstone girl even though they blamed her. Oh he hated the NFL yeah okay He never played in the NFL but that's okay went to shoot up the NFL and accidentally shot one of the main people at Blackstone An operation is buying up all the housing where he came from and somebody obviously got screwed by him Yeah, but that's that's pretty logical I seen I don't get this one at all unless it has something to do with fusion or the oil companies. I mean just there's nothing How about no how about this? How about this? How about this?

1:17:53 How about what is the entire GDP at the moment built on? On hyperscalars, all the money that is circling around initially basically coming from one source which is Nvidia. and others, and now Saudi Arabia. It's all going into power generation—not the data centers it's the power for the generations. So let's just presume I know i'm going out on a ledge here but let's presume that this is all about the MIT professor they got to do something

1:18:31 to cover up the hit on the MIT professor, because there's very little evidence. Well you know we saw the guy around there on some Ring door video cam kind of looked like him so that was him and he killed the MIT guy So perhaps this MIT guy maybe had something Maybe it was a huge problem Like look I now have a gigawatt in a jar! I mean i don't know How does Fusion even work? Fusion works by combining elements like atoms

1:19:09 get combined in such a way that after the combination energy is given off. Right, can you do it? Can you do it in a jar? No! Would it impact the world tremendously at this moment in time right when everyone's putting all of this money into gas-powered energy? It's considered the holy grail Okay so let's listen to the Secretary of the Interior Interior Doug Burgum, Burgum with the money honey this morning. It's all about decision making made between the locals. I mean, there are examples including in my home state where data center comes in you get an agreement with a local electric prices stay the same for the consumers and the local farmers or ranchers or it can even go down. There is deals that are being cut right now we're proposing that if somebody wants to come in and build a data center but they're going to build power generation with it have some of that be behind the meter off the grid to run the data center

1:20:20 build extra so that they can put like an extra 20% back into the grid and help ensure that prices either stay flat or go down for consumers. There is certainly right now, the economics electricity has never been worth more now a kilowatt hour has never been worth more now than it ever has been in any time in history." Okay, that was the key point he says something interesting later on but that was the key point So first of all oh It's good. It's the same or just going down But a kilowatt hour has never been more valuable than that now, which means... Expensive. Expensive yes! These tech companies that are driving up the stock market have a record amount The top five tech companies in America have almost 400 billion dollars of capex they want to spend on power generation as long again with these data centers and a data center is really a place where we're manufacturing intelligence Whoa! Did you know that? Were you aware?

1:21:13 We're back baby, America is back in the manufacturing business. What are we manufacturing? Intelligence. And with these data centers which clearly this guy was not first in line for and a data center is really a place where we're manufacturing intelligence. Intelligence lifts every sector of the economy so we want more intelligence not less and so localities that are figuring out a way to have I think he meant to say artificial intelligence, but he keeps saying intelligence. Intelligence manufactured in their local area and lower prices those are the folks that are getting it people that are blocking and stopping these projects from coming in are actually hurting every second they're hurting their universities they're hurting their schools they're hurting the national US National Security

1:21:58 Sounds to me like if someone figured this out, it's gonna hurt our schools hurt our universities hurt our national security We got to kill this guy. This guy is too close What are we gonna do? I got a homeless guy in the basement Yeah, how can we set him up give him 50 grand yet will give them 50 grand And he'll still give us the backstory and then we'll take this other Steve the Patsy Yep who may have killed himself months ago for all we know. Yeah, this whole thing is just stinks it's stinks but what's behind it? It may stink but to figure it out as not going to be non-trivial I don't think anyone was gonna do unless they just straight up fusion Well, I think the first thing we need to do is establish the true link in Portugal with these two and I'm skeptical of that

1:22:54 I'm very skeptical of that. They're just saying it? Were they gay lovers? And you know, it's like hey this guy is also from Portugal let me go investigate! That's like a Whitney Webb five months later type thing that's not something that just pops up seems to me Yeah but yeah as something you can't just and there's... You just can't make a phone call and then and there's very little evidence that he killed the MIT professor There just isn't. You know, there's a Ring Cam video of someone walking by... Oh that's him! He switched the plates. You know? There are identical cars with different plates you know that also happens. Yeah yeah gray Nissan. That's so rare. I don't know i'm just uh i'm skeptical. Okay well we might as well just give up on that. Yeah we'll give up on that but let's stay with AI because it's always super fun

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Maryland Farmers Battle AI Data Center Power Lines

Farmers in Maryland are fighting a proposed 67-mile high-voltage power line project designed to deliver electricity from Pennsylvania to data centers in Northern Virginia. The utility companies have sued for access to private land and are threatening to use eminent domain to complete the project. Landowners, including seventh-generation farmers, argue that the rapid growth of the AI industry is destroying local agriculture and property rights.

maryland· data centers· eminent domain· high-voltage lines· agriculture

1:23:58 And the first thing we'll do is we'll go to... The farmers! The farmers are now being hurt by AI. Gabor Farm in Maryland isn't ready for the holidays We give them a saw, we give them a tree cart They find their perfect tree I know it sounds like a human interest story for Christmas time but hold on The Christmas trees are pruned and the chocolate fudge displayed But Lisa Gaver, a seventh generation farmer Have you tried the Little John's Candies fudge yet? I've had their fudge before. Did you get the eggnog fudge? Uh, no not if it was in a package. The package is still sealed. Ah! We cut into one and it was eggnog fudge It was delightful

1:24:45 I've never even considered that. It's almost, it should be in the egg book." The Christmas trees are pruned and the chocolate fudge displayed but Lisa Gaver a seventh generation farmer is struggling to enjoy the season. You're in a fight we are in a fight what do you think your chances are of winning? I don't know. It's going to be a long road hoe." The fight is over proposed high-voltage power lines that would cut right through this 40 acre Christmas tree field. Gaver is part of a group of Maryland landowners battling the proposed 67 mile line that would cross three counties to deliver power from Pennsylvania, to Northern Virginia an area where data center growth has exploded because of AI and with it the demand for electricity

1:25:29 All of that computer processing needs power. In a statement, the utility company says the lines are necessary to power data centers in both Virginia and Maryland as well as strengthen the power grid. Farmers in Maryland tried to block surveyors from coming onto their property. The power companies sued to gain access and won now. The company is threatening to use eminent domain which gives the government authority to acquire private property for the that company can this company can't call eminent domain only the government can correct? Yeah. But that's not what I heard them say. Let's play it back. And one now the company is threatening to use eminent domain with... The company is threatening to use eminence domain. They can't use eminent domain they don't have the right to do that. Which gives the government authority to acquire private property for public use, to go forward with the project. We all need to manufacture more intelligence sorry ma'am

1:26:24 The battle playing out in similar ways all over the country. Suddenly we need a lot of power and we weren't planning to have to build that much There are multiple regions where new data centers are creating a surge in power demand Do we have the kind of power infrastructure in place right now, in this country? To be able to supply enough power to the AI industry We don't really at this point. We're having to get very creative." At Gaver Farm, the power company just left notice that its surveyors would be there soon. They could show up any time this is going into our

1:26:59 busiest tree season. We're just honest and good hard-working farmers that didn't ask for this." Tonight Lisa gave her vowing to keep farming and fighting Okay, so there's your Christmas AI power story. Well yeah this brings to mind is some... There's something scamish going on here. Hence the need to kill the MIT professor yes? Well, I don't know if it has anything to do with that guy. But the whole idea of all we got to build out all these data centers out of the blue, out of all of a sudden so people can do AI art or whatever they're going to do just doesn't make any sense and we can't get a better voice is just we got there Yes, I was bitching to Adam you'll hear these songs We have our AI songs at the end of the show

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Rising Energy Costs and AI Infrastructure Demand

Energy prices in California and across the U.S. are rising as municipal power companies seek rate increases to accommodate the massive demand from new data centers. The hosts argue that the promise of AI "intelligence" is being used to justify these infrastructure costs, despite a lack of clear public benefit. They note that the primary beneficiaries are companies like Nvidia and the developers building the physical data center facilities.

california· energy prices· nvidia· data centers· city council

1:27:46 in the show mix and the voice is the same guy so it's like some kind of a Broadway version of Sinatra that is with good range. He's got range, he's got range. He's got range, but it's the same guy and they can't see me. I'd like to hear somebody else you know besides this guy's voice. I mean it's much more important that we improve that voice than have farms. I mean come on let's be honest about it And they're not gonna do it this whole there's something going on that's that maybe we're getting, we're going to have a flood of excess oil that's got to be burned off and energy prices are too high already every place in the country. In California it is ridiculous. All these municipal power companies they all went to their city councils or state or whatever they had to go to and say hey

1:28:36 We need a little more room in our pricing because of the demand. So we need anywhere between 15 and 25 percent more room for prices increases, and of course the city council people they're all like hanging out with AI boys. Oh yeah? Yeah! We'll take care that for you. You're bringing jobs Whatever. Yeah, they're not. But this is where all the money is. All the money right now is in building data centers, building actual data centers because of course we have a lot of Nvidia chips that need to go somewhere and the power generation for it. As far as I can tell, that's where all the money is going or into... Is there a short? Is the demand for AI services so high that it's coming to a halt because...? No! Then what's the point? The promise is if you just give us more power, Captain, then AI will really work we're almost there

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

7-Eleven Software Glitch Causes 100x Overcharges

A software update at 7-Eleven caused a payment processor error that overcharged customers by 100 times the actual purchase amount at six stores. One customer in Pinole, California, was charged $7,934 for a $79 gas purchase after the decimal point shifted during the transaction. While 7-Eleven eventually refunded the money and provided a $500 credit, the incident raised concerns about the reliability of automated payment systems.

7-eleven· software update· payment processor· pinole· california

1:29:39 That's all I hear. It really worked doing what? Getting that voice you want! There is a little coding issue, I think they can fix that in a minute. No...I think it is harder than it looks. Alright well let us move from one fraud to another and go to Minnesota Oh I was still on AI but okay if you wanna... Do you have any more AI stuff besides just complaining Because that's all I'm gonna do. Oh, you can complain and this happened in your... oh here we go let me say it In your neck of the woods in the Bay Area Yari McLaren used her debit card for gas at the 7-Eleven in Pinole She went inside to buy a Powerball Dory What? This is just not a good story Yeah, I know what happened Well okay then I'll end the clip Just give us the story Okay

1:30:31 Well, I'm actually funny because i was gonna get this. You might as well play the clip because it may have the little kicker in there The gas stations were charging 1,000 times more. Like if you bought a $20 gallon of gas it was 20 thousand or 2 thousand dollars I think it's 100 times more. And it was all because of the software fix. Yaira McLaren used her debit card for gas at the 7-11 in Pinal She went inside to buy a Powerball ticket but her car got declined so she used her cell phone to check her bank account right there on store and that is when I got the shock of my life I put in wasn't $79.34 like i had thought it was seven thousand nine hundred and thirty four dollars 7-eleven charged her 100 times what the amount should have been. Yary told me that clerks were not helpful and they didn't shut the pumps down until I threatened to call the police on the better business bureau after many calls and emails, 7-eleven finally refunded Yari's seventy nine hundred dollars

1:31:31 and gave her an extra $500 for her trouble. How did this happen in the first place? An internal company email obtained by the i-Team cites a recent software update, and says it appears that Decimal Point moved over for the pending transaction 7-Eleven's corporate office in Irving, Texas tells me that a payment processor error affected six stores. 7-Eleven emailed me we are actively working with the payment processor to reverse these charges as soon as possible but this customer has not heard from the company and it's been more than a week

1:32:13 Yeah, so the story I wanted to give you but couldn't find a clip for was the power outage in San Francisco It wasn't huge. It was 130 homes and businesses But the minute that happened, and this was Richmond Sunset Presidio Golden Gate. So did you even see any of that or hear anything about it? No 130 houses is common Yes It's normal for California Well anywhere but the Waymo cars all stopped the minute that happened Oh, that's interesting just parked right in the intersection like wherever they were they just stopped yeah Yeah, I got to fix that yeah Well, this story about the credit card run up of 100x has some dubious aspects. For one thing when you have a debit card it usually has a limit that's reasonably low because they're always fearful that debit cards are going to get ripped off. Yeah. That's typically with most cards is 400 bucks. You can't get a $7900 bill on a $400 limit debit card. It just can't be done

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Megyn Kelly Transgender Segment Retrospective

The hosts review a 2018 clip of Megyn Kelly on NBC promoting "The Gender Cool Project" and interviewing transgender children. They contrast her past supportive stance with her current anti-trans rhetoric, suggesting that media figures often shift their public positions based on who is paying their contracts. This is presented as an example of the inherent dishonesty and "pay-to-play" nature of mainstream media personalities.

megyn kelly· nbc· transgender· gender cool project· media criticism

1:33:15 So there's that element. Yeah The news is just full of crap today, it's just I think it's just that way all the time No what he had gambling which brings me to a clip? I mean we could play the Minnesota fraud but I want to play this clip because it's kind of like floating around and I thought I'd play it this is from 2018 This is Megan Kelly, and this just shows you... This is when she was working for NBC. And she had to get in a million- She had her $60 million contract. Some ridiculous contract. So when you're working for somebody at that kind of money, you say what they tell you to say and you end up with something like this. I always want to say this is classic media problem. This is the media edit in a nutshell.

1:34:07 It just epitomizes everything that's wrong with the M5M. People with me on stage right now are all transgender kids who want others to know it is possible to transition socially with love and support and acceptance within a family and community Please welcome 16 year old Nicole, 12 year old Daniel 14-year-old Gia 15 year old Landon And 13 years Stella Morning everyone Also joining me in our special audience is Ghira Goldstein, who's a transgender woman who is the co-founder along with Jen Grosslander who you just met of The Gender Cool Project. A new movement that is being launched today we're going to tell y'all about it and its actually really important so alright welcome to you all everybody nervous? Everyone sufficiently nervous? So if anything your proving that Megyn Kelly will say whatever she has too for money because

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

FTC Investigates Surveillance Pricing and Personal Data

The Federal Trade Commission is investigating "surveillance pricing," where retailers use AI and personal data to set individualized prices for consumers. Unlike dynamic pricing based on demand, surveillance pricing uses factors like age, location, and browsing history to determine a customer's maximum "pain point." Instacart recently paid a $60 million settlement over deceptive tactics related to these pricing models.

surveillance pricing· ftc· instacart· ai· personal data

1:35:02 Now she's so anti-trans, it's not even funny. Yeah! The comparison between the two... So did she have an awakening? No, she had a different payee Gold! Gold! She has a different person signing the checks I mean this is this is the problem with everybody in the media that they can't They're dishonest This is just basically dishonesty I just have one series of clips. I see you have a clip from PBS, but I got a couple of clips from it because I thought it's something... It was my beat so I'd like to take the surveillance pricing if you don't mind? The reason that my clip which we should probably play initially confirms that the problem was the terminology

1:35:59 And I didn't fully understand because you're going on and on about things cheap prices and the rest of it. And we had a letter from one of our producers that talked about how they change prices at the stores, they don't do it well what he said He was saying, oh surprise surprise you pay more when Instacart delivers it. That's what he was saying Yes the insta cart prices is different and play my clip And then you can play yours out if you're going online to buy some last-minute gifts There's a chance the price you'll pay will be influenced by what's known as surveillance pricing That's the practice of some retailers to use the power of AI to sift all sorts of personal data, to set individualized prices online. Things like your age, gender, geographic location and even browsing history could change the price you pay. Allie Rogan spoke with Jay Stanley senior policy analyst for The Speech Privacy & Technology Project at the ACLU. Thank you so much for joining us. So what is surveillance pricing and how does it work?

1:37:00 Surveillance pricing is basically when companies gather a huge amount of data about their individual customers and we're living in an era where more data's being collected about us than ever before. Companies take that data, and they use it to try to figure out basically how to wring more money out of you when you buy things from them. What is your pain point? What are you willing to pay questions like that. And there's widespread experimentation happening with that kind of pricing in a number of business sectors today. Yes, yeah, that basically is my first eclipse was good because now I can continue on get a little bit deeper into this and of course this is really machine learning he'll say AI

1:37:44 which is just a code name for machine learning. This has been around for a long time, it's just more data by the way when you have more data centers and you have AI sucking everything up into the corpus that's kind of handy And they have real brain scientists working at these outfits, specifically when it comes to pricing and recommendations, pricing price points etc. How do I know? My sister PhD works for one of these companies and is actually... well she does the... she helps customers implement it

1:38:21 But this has been going on for a while and it's only gotten better. So what are some examples of that? How are these companies using the massive amounts of data that exist about all of us online to give us these, I've heard it described as like personalized pricing? Right off the bat there is a lot we don't know because number one they're gonna claim trade secrets, number two their using AI which is very opaque in the first place even if businesses may not understand what the logic of the AR they're using is But this first came into public attention when the president of Delta Airlines, speaking to investors said that they were planning on using AI to set an increasing proportion of their prices, airline prices and that they would use personal information about people to do so. That created a bit of an uproar in Congress and elsewhere and Delta backed off and said no we're not going to do this

1:39:15 But it really put the issue, which has been out there for 10-15 years on a low key level. Really put into the headlines recently and so we're seeing attention by Congress, by state legislatures, but the Federal Trade Commission and others. There was a recent report that Instacart has been doing differential pricing. A consumer group did a test and they found that 75% of the products in Instacart were getting set with different prices, with different people. With some of the prices 23 percent higher than for some people and for others. The Wall Street Journal has reported that retailers like Home Depot were setting different prices for different customers with customers in affluent areas actually getting charged less. I think that there's a lot we don't know about what's happening but it's definitely going on as a quick aside. FTC announced that Instacart paid a 60 million dollar

1:40:04 fine in consumer refunds, I should say to settle a lawsuit over allegations it engaged in deceptive tactics. It almost to me sounds like the man if you leave us alone on this we'll settle this bit of it and the deceptive tax tactics were they automatically enrolled you in some things without telling you but it wasn't really about this differential pricing because that's it there is a difference between dynamic pricing And that's the terminology, so dynamic pricing changes based upon demand at the time and differential or surveillance pricing. Here is this guy to explain it. Can I ask you just an overview question? Yeah How does this surveillance pricing differ from where people pay different amounts of money from going into a car dealership

1:40:57 and dickering about a car price, and they're coming up and down and going back and forth with the manager. And coming back and forth and back and forth. So I pay $52,000 for the Chrysler and then you go in there and you really are good at it and you pay 48,000 somebody else pays full ticker price of $60,000 how is that different? Well, there's a negotiation that took place. There is no negotiating and there is no way you can say I don't want to pay that other than I don't want the service. Don't you think there was virtual negotiation going on?

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Uber Battery Level and Personalized Pricing Allegations

Allegations have surfaced that Uber may charge higher prices to users whose smartphone batteries are nearly dead, capitalizing on their urgent need for a ride. While Uber denies this, the hosts discuss how apps can access battery level APIs on Android and iOS without explicit user permission. They conclude that the smartphone is the primary "attack vector" for behavioral data collection and price manipulation.

uber· battery api· personalized pricing· privacy· smartphone

1:41:35 David, the little kicker in that little report there is said people in affluent areas paid less because people in affluent areas... sometimes the reason people are affluent is because they're cheap. They don't buy retail. So the legalities I have two clips. The legalities and the second clip. In the second clip first let's define the difference between the two which you kind of need to understand where where it probably isn't legal what they're doing versus your car dealership example. What is the difference between this type of surveillance pricing and some other examples and types of differential pricing that we've seen out there already, like dynamic pricing? I think that the core element of surveillance pricing or personalized pricing is that it's based on data they have about you. It's different from charging more for an umbrella when it's raining. It's different from Uber charging different prices

1:42:29 at different times of day depending on the amount of demand for their cars. Although there have been allegations that Uber, for example charges more to people whose batteries are about to die... By the way I thought that was phenomenal and it makes total sense your uber app is monitoring your battery level and if you're ordering an uber in your batteries its five percent they're gonna jack up phone yeah they're gonna Jack your price up how did Because is that data available? Can anyone from the firm that Oh, absolutely. I mean you just say yes, I agree to all the things that this app can access I've never seen I've looked at those lists and I've never seen one about battery Absolutely of all of them have a version of it to know if they need to go to sleep should they be in the background They always ask you

1:43:19 Can we have access to the photos and all the other bullcrap that your address book, I've never seen anything about the battery. But okay...I mean i'll go along with the idea because it is a good idea if you think about it Let me just see let me let me see..i'm pretty sure Well that's the claim thats being made we will go with it but if somebody out there....I've just never seen it Both Android and iOS have battery APIs that allow developers to see the current charge level whether their device is plugged in or not But then you'd have to give them permission for that. I've never seen it on a permissions list It'll say can we... app developers post in the troll room Allegations that Uber, for example charges more to people whose batteries are about to die and things like that That would be personalized pricing. Uber has denied that There can be very complex and sometimes subtle differences among the different types of pricing

1:44:17 and that can make it complicated, but at the end of the day they have a lot more information about the way the world works. About how different people react to different pricing than any individual does and they are seeking to use that advantage in information against individuals Okay, according to Gemini I'm just gonna take that because they're a Google shop under the privacy rules for both Android and iOS Battery level is considered low risk information Because it doesn't reveal your identity or your private files The system allows apps to see it automatically without showing you a pop-up does that get question that answers your question It doesn't answer my question. It answers my concerns

1:45:00 Oh, I'm glad you're gonna be picky about language. So let's find out what's legal but all of this is legal right and the corollary question to that is What regulations exist or should exist to put some guardrails around this practice? It's not totally clear that it's legal There's a bit of a legal gray area there are for example Privacy laws, state privacy laws such as California's that may have things to say about this and the way data is used. There are civil rights laws that have to do with discrimination based on anything based on ethnicity religion age

1:45:36 gender, disability status could get a company in hot water if what they're doing starts to implicate those things. There are state consumer laws and then there's the Federal Trade Commission which has a charge to go after deceptive and unfair trade practices And there could be claims that some of these fall under that. And in fact, the FTC has been investigating this. They did an investigation report last January and there's a Reuters report that they're looking at it again under the current administration so if you're a business doing this, you are not necessarily on solid legal ground

1:46:12 Is there anything that consumers can do to protect themselves from the possibility of being targeted with surveillance pricing? Yeah, stop eating groceries. Stop! Just don't eat fruit. It's difficult I mean at the end of the day a lot of these are bigger than any one of us their social questions for example i mean one of the big problems here is that so much data about us as being collected and flowing to companies they give them advantages over us And that's because Congress hasn't failed to pass an overarching privacy law. That would cut off the flow of data at the source that is fueling this kind of strategy, but certainly you can do your best to hide your identity when you're searching for prices and be aware of it

1:47:00 Check and see whether people you know are getting charged the same price. So to answer your question, you are the answer to the question How about this? You said don't eat fruit. You can eat fruit go to the store in by the fruit It's the instacart is all these people I have there everything delivered it I mean come on get put you wanted to stop this problem Put your phone in a drawer There it is The attack vector is always the phone All your information, all your behavioral... The attack vector is the phone. That's a great phrase! That's it but it is the number one attack vector in all of our lives When you scroll and just pause Boom another data point Exactly its true When you see the puppy like oh slow down If people just... You see their cooking demo? Oh you're perfect You'll get ads for cheese

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

TikTok Sale to American Investors and Oracle

The owners of TikTok have reportedly signed a deal to sell the app to a group of American investors, including Oracle and Silver Lake. The sale follows a congressional ban and executive orders from President Trump, though the deal reportedly does not include the app's proprietary algorithm. The hosts discuss the value of TikTok's "eyeballs" and speculate on the involvement of Larry Ellison in the acquisition.

tiktok· oracle· silver lake· larry ellison· algorithm

1:47:58 cheese grated cheese you don't even have to grate it. It's grated already. Just adds for cheese is what you get. Cheese man I'm telling ya, cheese! It's all about the cheese and just winding it all up 15 seconds because this is a Along with your phone, this is attack vector number two. Late today the owners of TikTok signing a deal to sell the app to mostly American investors including Oracle and Silver Lake The sale has been in the works for months Congress passed a law last year banning the app in the US unless it was sold President Trump has postponed the band through a series of executive orders So from what I understand in the deal they don't get the algo which is...I dunno..the point of the whole thing?

1:48:43 That would, well... eyeballs. They get the eyeballs. Okay so how much are eyeballs worth? The old Silicon Valley guys they don't think of Elgos they figure out we can do our own this is the classic American thing I remember this story from years ago when Michelob was sold to Budweiser. Yeah it was a dark day. This is long time ago and so Michelob sold to Budweiser as German beer very famous beer at that time in the 70's Was it not the king of beers Budweiser's the king of beers. And so Michelob was a German beer with just a beautiful lager and they sold it to Budweiser and they said, we'll send you our brew masters so that you can make it exactly the same and the Budweiser people said hey! We know how to make beer forget it. With rice? Yes, and so that's the way it is in Silicon Valley. We can do algos forget it. Yeah well

1:49:41 So they don't need the elbows. They just wanted eyeballs, so it's a Silicon Valley eyeballs Yeah I'd love to know little more because this was such... This was the number one deal months ago Oh everyone! Oh China! China's seen it! Everyone hair on fire and now it says yeah Larry Ellison bought it Okay we knew that We know he is doing for Mossad We know he's doing for the Jews to spy on us I got a note from somebody Hey man What do you think it feels like to be on the other end of those quips you guys are making? I said, Do you even listen to the show?! Yeah. What is he saying... what was that supposed to refer to? Well it was hurt whenever whenever I make a joke and say well it's from Assad You know the Jews are in control which is obvious! This is this is what you said. You made such a good point

1:50:33 Satire and mocking should not be done. Sarcasm in particular. Sarcasm should just not be done No, because people don't get it. And then they think that I'm serious about it Yeah! You're a big promo side guy Funny enough...I don't get any of those people with their name in brackets saying yeah you're right Curry They are not falling for it Guess it's me. That's true, it's funny you're right they're not falling for the those guys Those guys aren't falling Which is who you are mocking Yeah yeah They just keep posting in the troll room Yeah Curry You are part of the problem Alright Adam Sandler Adam Curry hmmm hmmmm Just noticing mmmm Adam Adam Carolla? Yeah hmmmmm hmmmm Just noticing

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Jake Paul Injured in Anthony Joshua Boxing Match

YouTuber Jake Paul suffered a broken jaw and lost several teeth during a heavyweight boxing match against Anthony Joshua in Miami. The fight, which was streamed live on Netflix, was criticized by boxing experts as a dangerous mismatch due to the significant difference in experience and weight class. Despite the injuries, Paul posted photos from his hospital bed, highlighting the "click-driven" nature of modern influencer sports.

jake paul· anthony joshua· netflix· miami· boxing

1:51:29 That's the term you got to use. I'm just noticing. I have, I got no punchline here. You might as well just cut it. This is no punch line. All right off you go Jake where I've been waiting for Jake Paul. I mean, I saw the ad Oh, yeah Okay, I saw the ads. I'm like wow this is the fight of the century Let's watch a Christmas movie cuz I'm not interested So I guess you all what goes out kid isn't it be the clips before they break? Yeah Jake Paul got beaten up by a real heavyweight not an old guy or anything guys just pretty much just Recently he was taller than him Yeah, he's monster and he was two weight classes ahead.

1:52:08 Crack busted Jake Paul's jaw in two places not him for a loop. Oh, no just basically put him in the hospital Oh wow and so here's that here's the good kind of report I think this from the BBC we told doctors have fitted youtuber Jake Paul with to titanium plates To fix his jaw which was broken into places they've also removed several teeth at mr.. Paul sustained the injuries during a fight with two-time heavyweight boxing champion Anthony Joshua last night in Miami. The fight has been described by some as a dangerous stunt, not least because of the height weight and experience difference between the two men it was streamed live on Netflix and was worth millions to both of them but I've been speaking to boxing journalist Gareth A Davis

1:53:01 been explaining why it was such a controversial bout. Boxing's an inherently dangerous sport, I've covered it for 35 years people pass away and get killed in the ring and that was the fear for Jake Paul but the gulfing experience in class was so enormous apart from the size as well because Jake Paul is a few weight divisions below Anthony Joshua that there are people feared for his safety and his health um look he got a beating he had his jaw broken he had some teeth altered by Anthony Joshua eventually beat him up in the sixth round after marinating him for several rounds, maybe carrying him a little bit as well. So it was a one-off but Jake Paul's an anomaly Rebecca because he is an extraordinary young man with 70 million followers online and he wants to push the boundaries of things I say an anomaly because it was an athlete growing up and he's fallen in love with boxing over the last five years It was a horrible mismatch in many ways

1:53:58 But for some reason, for the modern audience it's very compelling. Yeah this is where we are in our culture This is where we're at And you're... wait a minute As you sound like you're condemning it You are the one always advocating for public executions on television So let's make sure that we remember that Yes if I have the television deal If I can be the production with Brunetti Yes, and I you're cutting me out of the deal already. No no for nothing announcer you're the talent Ladies and gentlemen Okay now connected by thousands of megawatts brought to you by meta because we have got a get a sponsor in there

1:54:47 Yeah, meta or in video. Okay, let's go with part two Jake Paul You know a lot of risks being taken by youtuber Jake Paul then but also risks for Anthony Joshua I mean he doesn't want to unnecessarily damage somebody who probably shouldn't actually be in the ring again to because people were shocked that Jake Paul was able to be so elusive and Joshua missed him. The debate is did Anthony Joshua take it easy on him till the fifth or sixth round when Jake Paul got tired? Should we be allowing this kind of event I spoke to Robert Smith, the Secretary of the Boxing Board of Control in the UK and he said he'd never have licensed it

1:55:46 So there is a bit of criticism of the bout. I believe that myself as well, i don't think this kind of mismatch should be allowed or sanctioned again. I think this is a one and done. As you say what does this do to the actual sport of boxing though? At what point does it sort of become exhibitionism and actually away from the very technical technical nature of the sport of boxing. So it was extraordinarily big in business terms and it will be a huge audience on Netflix, which is the bigger picture here by the way as well with what's happening because of the resonance of 300 million subscribers to Netflix who are getting into sports broadcast streaming business.

1:56:45 Hmm, yeah. Netflix deal? Yeah makes sense 50 mil. Netflix... well I wouldn't.. would you get your jaw broken in two places for that kind of money I like cash flow. Well, it would be flowing! And not blood flow... Okay here's the kicker The funny thing is Jake Paul had his jaw broken last night and within half an hour he was in the hospital putting pictures on Instagram of him in the bed and kind of x-rays of his jaw being fixed almost like a trophy from something he had achieved on the night

1:57:24 You know, and tens of millions of people have viewed it on Instagram. So we have to be careful about what the game is here. Yeah it's all about the clicks The odds for Joshua to win in round six were 12 plus 1200 Is that a lot? Uh yeah well thats ridiculous That means you'd have to bet 1200 dollars to win one dollar So was Joshua round one 250, round two 350. Five 900, six 1200 and then go the distance. Keep right

1:58:09 So, but... Those odds don't seem to be put up correctly. Yeah, well moneymaker. Whatever the case it was there was probably a I think when you said prop bet there's probably some element of truth to that yeah You know let's do this and then we'll do that besides getting if you it's not like 50 million is not enough No, but lets just get all our friends in on this deal Let's just face it Netflix is the king They figured it out. They know what we degenerates really want We want this kind of blood with an influencer I mean can we get Candace Owens to get in the ring with somebody and get beat up? That would be interesting to watch Well people would flock to see that Yes, exactly You know i got a note from one of our producers who dated an assistant director Who has worked on some of those Christmas movies I was complaining about

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Podcast History and the RSS Feed Standard

The hosts discuss the origins of podcasting, refuting claims that Tom Green or others invented the medium before the development of the RSS feed with enclosures. Adam Curry explains that the technology was designed to allow computers to download content automatically over slow connections. They emphasize that the RSS standard is crucial for creator control and protection against platform demonetization.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· rss feed· tom green· joe rogan

1:59:03 Yeah. It looks like the guys come out of gay porn? Yeah, because the guys come out of gay porn. According to this assistant director who this person dated, the directors producers and some talent are indeed from the porn world. Or cheap! Well... The problem was that they, uh... That this woman who worked as an assistant director hated it because the overall vibe on the set was dead dry and boring. Zero creativity." Yeah! Makes sense just like the category. Yeah they can't do dick. And with that I want to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you The man who put the sea in carrying the water say hello to my friend on the other end The one the only Mr John C

1:59:51 1698 today on the trolls 1698 listening live to the best podcast in the universe You know people Jason Calacanis is now saying of the the all-in podcast is the best podcast in the universe He didn't say that yes. He did yeah, we should trademarked it Yeah, well you can say what he wants It hurts his credibility because he listens to our podcasts knows and he knows no phrase I think he's saying just to see if we're watching his podcast

2:00:41 Which of course I'm not, but my spies are everywhere. Oh that's an interesting... you might be correct My mommy spies are everywhere A lot of people like his podcast oh it's a very good podcast and he sees well-he's in he's clean shaven He has a uh It's odd to see him with the big glasses and the clean shaven look Yeah he looks like..you know who there was a p.... he looked...I know it's gonna probably not going go over well With you, but with him he probably might like this comment. But it he looks a little like George Clooney No He does not yeah I saw a clue knee in one of his movies here when he would in that black and white film He had his hair pushed back flat And he just was roaming around doing some goofball thing he had likes to do and I looked at him I said dad looks like Cali Canis he looks Cali canis as an Oddly looks enough like George Clooney that is noticeable to me. He looks like an accountant

2:01:36 You know, like a CPA type dude with the glasses. Like I'm here to do your taxes? He doesn't he also doesn't speech therapy does yeah, I know we that we badgered him enough. Yeah And he doesn't talk like that anymore now He's clear very clear and all the whole this week there was on my timeline somebody somewhere said well Tom Green invented the podcast Tom green What? So that's off the wall. Because Rogan was on his video, he was doing a video show from home

2:02:21 or wherever he was. And Rogan was like, I gotta be doing this and that was kind of the spark but Joe Rogan has long since confirmed where it came from but its just interesting how people are like oh! I was at WMAU in 1932 when we were putting up our wave files on real audio We were podcasting before Curry came up with the name podcasting which...I never came up with a name The whole thing is like, you know... It's skewed. Yeah yeah well people have just decided that a podcast is you know some people with cans on talking at a table That's a podcast. On YouTube They don't the technology is no longer understood honestly You know it's just not understood and to be kind of fair about

2:03:19 I mean, we did the initial idea for the RSS feed with the enclosure was because we were on dial-up modems practically. We had ADSL, kind of always on computing and the idea was your computer would download this stuff into the back... And an ISDN line into the house? Yeah! ISDN, ADSL early cable modems they weren't really fast it wasn't click and you get the experience right away That was the whole genesis of it. But what people miss about it is that if you don't put in on RSS feed and distribute it that way, you have no control and your audience can be eliminated from you. And then they got to go crying. They demonetize me! That's the part that people are missing

2:04:11 So I don't care. I mean, I was just there...I don't even think I invented it. It just came through God. It was a gift from God to the universe. I was just the guy Well, I know who invented podcasting it was you and everyone can you know make up any story they want who cares? It doesn't matter. It was just interesting cuz I'm working with the original do gee yeah, oh gee yes That's the only reason by the way it's not because you like me because no one No, this is a business like a business attracted to the dollar signs How'd that work out for ya but didn't work out as well as I'd hoped but beside the point

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Church Traditions

The hosts explore the "Value for Value" funding model, comparing it to the long-standing traditions of churches that offer free services and rely on voluntary donations. They discuss various televangelists, including Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland, noting the different ways religious organizations manage "time, talent, and treasure." The segment reinforces the show's commitment to a non-subscription, voluntary support model.

value for value· joel osteen· robert tilton· kenneth copeland· donations

2:04:56 We have a good product. Outstanding product, it's the best product in the universe people come on get with it so yes you should be listening to this on a modern podcast that because I haven't stopped we continue to improve what is being done and uh I love that Apple is picking up on what we're doing they make no money off of it they really don't yeah yeah The lost leader It's good for them It's very good for them You have to have a lost leader if you're in business Yeah well they got it They got their lost leader. Congratulations Apple, you're losing money because of me and John C. Dvorak is making money because of me! There ya go I'm your meal ticket baby! So get a modern podcast app one that does all kinds of cool things like listening to shows live when they're being podcasted when they are being recorded actually Be part of the live studio audience become apart of the troll room at NoahJennerStream.com

2:05:54 And we did actually, I think no one has ever questioned us on the value for value concept. And then we did name that Value For Value and we learned that because just because we're students of behavior this is our own version of what was that term? Begging for money! Surveillance pricing. This surveillance begging for money, yeah you're right it's begging for money surveillance prices. You know the thing about I got to say this so i'm getting...I gotta think.. I do not understand why people don't understand the value-for-value concept and how it works Well who says they don't? I get a thing from 404 media that said oh we got this that and the other thing got all this news story for subscribers only

2:06:44 It's like what do you mean for subscribers only? You know, there's never been a moment where journalism is behind a firewall to such an extent as it is today. Even when newspapers were out there and they cost 25 cents you could still go to the library And the spark sticks, they had these sticks with the newspapers on them. Yes! The roll-up sticks Big giant stick and you'd get the newspaper would be...and you read in the newspaper that it was free It's always free When television came into being it was always designed to be free and people would say well I don't like advertising

2:07:22 So they created public television and said, no advertising. Just give us some money if you want to donate and it was the same. It was that was the value for value thing. It's like churches of course have been using Value For Value forever. They don't charge you to go into the church though. You go in when I hear a free sermon here he can get it. You don't have to give him money but if you feel that was worth something you given my this not a big deal And it's a very common practice and it works. And the fact that people put stuff behind firewalls, especially journalists...and I'm including Matt Taibbi in this he does it It's not right. You know what, I don't think we've ever told you this story but when Tina was first going to church here and then I was doing the show same as I've always been doing it but I'd like to get up at 7 o'clock and do the prep and do the show and go through in one deal these days they get up early prep go to church come back prepping then we do the show But i would be watching on YouTube

2:08:20 And so to me it was just, it was YouTube and I was seeing this YouTube stuff the whole time. She'd come home we discuss it and then eventually we have a dinner with Pastor Jimmy and his wife Day Minette. The first thing that comes out of my mouth is, oh Pastor Jimmy I love your show! He starts cracking up like He says, yeah I guess it is kind of. Tina's like oh my god what did he just say? I said yeah you start off you got your worship team which is Christian for band then you got your promos because they've got promoes then you get your donation segment then you got your deconstruction and then wind up with another song It's a complete show And yet they are the OG value for value and they just say hey do you want to support us this is where its going this is what we're doing This is whats happens with it

2:09:11 And no one's holding a gun to your head. You're absolutely right, but we studied some of the big mega churches early on didn't we? Yeah yeah there was a guy who put a book together I can't remember the name breaking the glass or something he had it he tried to buy all the books back because it was too revealing and that was true It had all the tricks and every little thing you can do to get more money out of people. And it was like, wow! These guys know what they're doing. The megachurch guys are no slouches. No... They've got a lot going on. And they come in from all kinds of dimensions. They're very talented at maintaining big operations I always loved the guy's like, who is that one guy? He's kind of icky

2:10:02 He has like three jets and then you know some girl... You're taking a Copeland. Copeland, yeah! Copeland's the ickiest of the group yeah And some journalist comes up and starts at the airport he's like no I went to spread the gospel around the world I flew for 26 hours I don't know. It seems a bit much. One of my favorite guys in this group was Robert Tilton, another Texas preacher. Ah, I've heard of him yeah. He's kind of disappeared he did a lot...he would scrunch his face up in all kinds of weird contortions as you talked

2:10:45 And it was just like wow you couldn't keep your eyes off him because he was always scrunching his face up and then he would Just out of the blue while just saying whatever. He's talking about go right into tongues Yeah, that's supposed to do that in public well He does it did it all time? He was very very entertaining character But he wasn't he always seemed like a like a scammer like a lot of these guys seemed like to me. But the one I still liked the most, in terms of his ability Not that this is not boring people stiff with this discussion, but I still think Joel Osteen is one of the... He's very successful. But I think he's underrated. He is—I think he's an incredibly talented guy. You know what's interesting about him? Is he takes no money from the church. He gets all his money from his books

2:11:38 Is that what he says? Let's send our accountant Jason Calacanis to investigate. Hey OC I'm here investigating, we're showing off money flows Anyway, so that was a little discussion. A little side street we took there on value for value We accept multiple versions of Value For Value Turns out churches use this as well We didn't even know this when we said time talent and treasure I love it when people send me some pastor who's talking about time talents and treasure like This guy must be listening to the show That's right. Even though this has been going on for hundreds of years... But I didn't know it at the time when we came up with it so one of the ways you can support the show is with your time, with your talent yeah? You can organize meetups, you can help us We have Sir Donald Winkler stepped up he's doing a really nice Christmas special for us for Thursday

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Listener Volunteerism

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the episode, discussing the merits of AI-generated images versus traditional art. They mention a classic infrared photo of John Dvorak taken at Golden Gate Fields and clarify that it was not a "spook" photo but a technical experiment. The segment highlights the "talent" aspect of the Value for Value model, where listeners contribute creative work to the show.

no agenda art· scaramanga· jeffrey rhea· infrared filter· golden gate fields

2:12:35 And he says, you know there's really been a lot of really nice discussions around Christmas on the show. He says it going to be very nice and happy and friendly. I'm like, I don't believe it. And I'll see when I hear it. So that's incredible. And he says, you know, I used to be able to donate a lot of cash but after COVID things got really tight so I am really happy I can support the show. That makes me equally as happy as anything! How about you? Yeah, I love the volunteerism aspect of the show. It's fantastic such as the art which of course is... The volunteerism of these art machines that are cranking this stuff out with the prompt jockeys that are now considered themselves artists it's a fabulous new era. Considered themselves artist so Scaramanga sent me know because he did an end-of-show mix for for the show and also on X he put it he did a video for it which is always kind of cool like a bonus

2:13:34 And he says, no I got no problem with it. He says, I just feel like... Didn't Scaramanga turn against us on the old No Agenda Social once before? This is his personality. BPD babe! Maybe. He's doubling down. He's doubling down. No, I don't think so. Apparently has some kind of supermodel life which now it all makes sense. Oh, now it makes sense! Right? It makes sense He's preoccupied Yes he said maybe we should limit uploads to two or three since there is just too much slop I said that's... We can't limit how many times people want to upload The other thing he ignores since were the art directors in this regard even though you know not technically but yes we are technically Yeah we are Is that you want everything

2:14:27 We, you know... It's like the photographer. You know there are two kinds of photographers The guys who always make the perfect shot and the guys who take 1,000 pictures! It's called spray-and-pray and they just take a thousand pictures, and they find one of you that looks good. Yeah We know we don't we there's no reason to limit if you want to submit 100 pictures If there's 100 things like saying don't do it But you know be judicious yeah It was kind I took it about like okay There's not slight against us You think we can't tell people what to do now? We're not telling people what to do ever That's our motto but you should support us with your cash

2:15:07 Yeah, we tell them that. So Jeffrey Rhea did the artwork for episode 1826 We titled it The Sauerkraut Kid which is the German version of Noodle Boy and I couldn't argue with you on this one It was a pretty piece of AI Noah Jenner, Curry Dvorak A little microphone there always so original Little microphone and little transmitter waves Yes stuff you hated But it said give these guys a bonus And I had little money bags and gold coins, and yeah how could I argue with that? It was our subliminal messaging. Give these guys a bonus! Yeah exactly so we chose that we chose it over

2:15:49 Oh man, there's already a lot up there. Darren has been doing a lot of comic book looking covers... Yeah I know how he got into that. We kind of like Darren's eggnog no agenda eggnog. Yeah we did like the eggnog that was probably came in second yes it was a classic you liked the the comic book the media deconstructionists comic book punk rock album work art. Yes, I did like that and I liked the one next to it too. I like all these comic book ones but they're not gonna... since you hate them to such an extreme. I said hang it up print it out and hang on your wall if you'd like so much man! And I did But we did give a special mention to Blue Acorn for

2:16:33 Disappointed Scaramanga walking away from his easel. Oh yes, that was cute! It's on page two and we also had Geoffrey Rhea with the razor blades in the bread yeah we didn't think that was a great connection to make with the show Like we're putting razor blades in... No. Yeah, it was a associative issue. People have to understand that little bit What people did send me is because this came about as we were talking about I think we talked about PC Magazine and photographers And so people sent me that Wired picture where you were supposedly in a trench coat looking like some kind of spook

2:17:17 That was done... yeah, that photo. It's funny. It's a good picture! No it's a great picture I have it and give me a copy of it that was done with an infrared filter that coat is actually dark navy Oh different color interesting it wasn't changed because it was an infrared filter the whole shot was done with an infrared Hold on a second kids Come over to your boomer uncles for a second back in the day We'd go out with camera and we had something called a camera case And this isn't like a case that you put around your iPhone So if you drop it, it doesn't shatter into a thousand pieces. The case had things in it like extra film

2:17:59 It had different lenses that you would click one lens off and click another lens on, and it had filters which are these little pieces of glass I guess. I don't know what it was plastic glass? And you would screw those onto the lens itself to get certain effects Can you believe how analog the world was back then So that's what he shot and yeah, it was a funny picture cute But that was at finally you that's the one we finally ended up with that was shot over in Golden Gate Fields by them At the horse park as good. That was after he tried to get me to jump stand on my head You know Stick my tongue out all the other stuff did I say that you just refused to do? And so I kept refusing to do everything until that picture came out but did that there's all kinds of

2:18:49 Ugly troll talk about you and Jolie Odell. I'm just gonna have to look away from that. Jolie Odell? Yeah, man wants to look away from it. They're saying horrible things. What's Jolie Odell got to do with any of this? Nothing! And then of course the fabulous interview where the hit piece that would turned out to be not a hit piece I got all that now. They got all of it. I have an archive now of Dvorak's scandalous moments. Oh, yeah Hey, that's why I'm working with you man so I can build up an archive of scandalous moments So congratulations to Jeffrey Rhea for bringing us the artwork. Now we already see a lot has been uploaded, we appreciate everything that you do keep on prompting sometimes an actual artist pops up we do pay attention that so extra points if you do it noagendaartgenerator.com and we always want to thank everyone who supports the show financially will mention everybody $50 and above

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors, including the No Agenda Shop and James Moran, who contributed to the show's production. A new knight, Sir D (Darius Miller), is inducted into the No Agenda Round Table following a $1,000 cumulative donation. The segment includes promotional mentions for community-run businesses like Gigawatt Coffee Roasters and Little John's Candies as part of the Value for Value exchange.

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2:19:47 And we start in this portion of the program with something we have deemed our executive and associate executive producers segment. Why? Because just like Hollywood, when you really are financing the whole deal which can pay off in spades in Hollywood here, uh... We just give you part of the payoff and that is a credit right there on the show in the show notes You can use this credit anywhere Hollywood style credits are accepted including IMDB dot com $200 and above you get an associate executive producer credit, and we will read your note. $300 and above you get an executive producer credit, and we will also read your note. And back with a vengeance with 501 dollars and 56 cents which I presume is some fees were added is the No Agenda Shop! Noagendashop.com Which is fantastic

2:20:38 NoahJenInShop.com is we have a deal with them which consists of no deal You can do whatever you want just send they sell nice hats, they sell beautiful hats They sell all kinds of good stuff And No Agenda Shop says, they're in Georgia by the way. ITM John and Adam sorry for being MIA so long but AI and the decimated economy have thrown me overboard! Man overboard!! I had to focus all my time on staying employed thank you for your consistent courage and any positive karma you can throw my way well of course we'll give you some karma and karma is always positive

2:21:22 You've got karma. Okay, so now you have James Moran in Jackson. Oh Jackson California which is a cool place 500 bucks from him Merry Christmas I heard you guys talk about AI advertisements in the past and wanted to share this experience when I talked to Claude Which is supposed to be the kindest gentlest AI at home. Is that true? Yeah, it's what he was saying It's kinder and gentler know when I talked to Claude about LL And I've never used it about llms it always recommends itself as the best well The coders say that Claude is really good at coding is there right now That's what they say. I don't know well They probably would know what they're talking about

2:22:12 He says it's the best, but the other day I was asking about AI data center water usage and Claude threw OpenAI and GPT-4 under the bus talking about how much water they use. AI manipulation is already here! Yes indeed Those guys stink! I also wanted to share that i've created a pirate AI radio station my friends and I build celebrity DJs for this station By far the best DJ has been DJ Trump. Sharing one of the most recent segments for your listening pleasure, I was inspired by Adam's vibe coding and put together an ice cast

2:22:53 and liquid soup audio stream for the station. And he has it here, you'll put a link into the thing I hope? Well what he did was the link goes to DJ Trump and so i downloaded DJ Trump He didn't actually link to the station So we do have Gitmojams.com is our AI slop station that MVP and I are running But have a listen to DJ Trump. Seattle grunge, but you know what? Not electronic. Fake news from the teleprompter folks. Totally fake news This is pure American rock and roll The best rock and roll Some say better than the Rolling Stones Who by the way should pay tariffs They're British not sending their best But Soundgarden they are ours They're American And this song fell on black days Very dark very powerful Nobody does dark and powerful like Americans Believe me

2:24:00 Yeah, there you go. Not bad! Yeah it sounds like it's good. It could be a little better DJ Drozd, say a little bit of Calacanis in that for some reason I am an engineer he...I'm gonna finish this note I'm an engineer working with AI technologies And these things are fantastic for entertainment purposes. I agree with him, James Moran and Jackson, that's gold country California! Joseph Gass is from Wilmington Delaware and he sends 343 we appreciate that will return the favor with an executive producer and since you didn't have a note we'll give you a double up karma Karma. Look at this, this is Matthew Martel in Broomall Pennsylvania. Martel Hardware. 333 Merry Christmas everybody repetition gets the sale at some point you'll visit martelhardware.com and use coupon code

2:25:01 Green eggs and ham for an additional 10% off your order JCB hot pockets karma for everybody You've got karma Insert a make-good since where this is that was our last executive producer the last show we had Parker Whose note got lost apparently? And let me see he had some jingles I just wanted to Wanted to read his note because he sent me a copy of it. I tm Adam It's an honor that some Parker Geist white it's not her to be called your mentee I am truly blessed to call you my friend I want to thank you again for taking me to visit Rogan was truly in a amazing experience before listening to your podcast I was lost and trying to find a sense of direction of what is real and fake in the media and Pado sphere Thanks to you, I am now a Bitcoin maximalists

2:26:02 You made me realize that the entire financial system is rigged and it gave me hope for the future of our family ranch. Everything is fake and gay! Also, your guidance and wisdom have helped me open exploring my faith in God and Jesus And John when my Texas A&M Aggies win a national championship I'll send you a hoodie Oh, that's good news. Yeah well send me the hoodie anyway because you already lost Hot Pockets Mac and Cheese and Jobs Karma Hot pockets! You slaves can get used to mac n' cheese Macaroni and cheddar melted together Mac N' Cheese Mac N' Cheese Mac N' Cheese Jobs Jobs Jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs!

2:26:51 And, oh go ahead. It was me but you're fine to do it. Let me do this one then you got an empty one next is good as a good balance Yeah I just wanted to say something Texas A&M I did not understand how that team can only score three points and lose to University of Miami in the playoff game but they did How did the horns do? The Austin Longhorns They're not in the playoffs. Oh, so they suck even more? Well they never sucked it just you know they're just no one of the best teams because there's a big rivalry hook them horns versus the Aggies well the Aggies were far superior but Texas did beat the Aggies head to head but here this is Aggie country by default here because Austin bad just Austin bad or more Aggies here what about the Rangers Texas Tech

2:27:50 What's their team, Texas Tech? I don't know. The Techies Woo! John Rucker comes in with a Bitcoin donation, the amount of 0.0033 BTC on behalf of me and Naim Pinto. A deducing for both of us please? You've been de-douche'd So we'll say that's the deducing for John and here is the deducing for Naim Pinto. You've been de-douched By the way, that works out to $287.75 and he winds up by saying more Africa news! Oh there's a... Hey, you know? There you go that's exactly right Yep if you send us value we'll give you more valuable Africa news

2:28:36 I think it's the Red Riders, by the way. Strike? This is just a blanket 287-68 there's nothing... Let me go to the next one. To give this strike donor who sent in $287 and 68 cents of double up karma. Christopher Graves, in Mount Ockham California. I still don't know where that is 242 This is of course our little John's guy. Yes, a short and sweet that last days until Chris You already gave him a promotion today for their eggnog people just order that yes go to Little

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2:31:09 I have an apple in my room. Oh, I guess I'll have an apple in my room. That's the Peggy or whatever. That's me, Gigi. Aunt Gigi. If you have it readily available thank you for everything you're doing Merry Christmas Becca! Yes well I'll have to do that live because aunt Gigi is long gone so... Shut up slave! I'll just have an apple in my room. Next we have, what is this? This is a note. Oh! This is from Suits and Boots. This is from Sir Rob the constitutional lawyer at callthesuits.com He has a whole...is this Chad GBT's got all kinds of artwork on this alright As an official injury lawyer 233 dot 33

2:32:03 Regarding donations slash switcheroo, ITM boys sorry I haven't donated in a while. We started the new law firm Suits and Boots this year and it's consumed all my resources producers can and should check us out at callthesuits.com that's right if you have a hangnail callthesuits.com they'll get your money December brings two special occasions that compel a donation first my 33rd wedding anniversary oh yes indeed was on December 19th. On that day in 1992 I married the love of my life, the beautiful and talented Maggie...I agree she is beautiful and talented at the stunning St Mary's Cathedral in downtown Austin. Second, Maggie will turn and it has a big redacted years old on December 24th yes Christmas Eve

2:32:52 But never fear, we always take care of her. Kindly add it to the birthday list." Done! To mark these occasions I've enclosed a check for $233.33 Please credit this donation to Maggie and please de-douche her You've been dedouched So he says... He says, to mark these occasions... oh god. Deducer I respectfully request the 33 is a magic number jingle for obvious reasons wishing you your families and all my fellow producers of Merry Christmas in the safe peaceful and prosperous 2026 with love and admiration Robert J Cardi Jr aka Sir Rob the constitutional lawyer PS that Darren O'Neill is an asset double his salary done

2:33:40 Douglas Murray in Missoula, Montana 215 25 you guys rock he writes your show is triple tits 71.75 times 3, that's 215 to 75 I guess Wow okay Also you have...I don't know how he gets...okay also you have the best troll room in the universe ah no jingles no karma love Did you tell?

2:34:26 Eli the Coffee Guy, 2-12-21. He always brings the date in with $200. He says it's the last chance to wish everyone in Gitmo a Merry Christmas before The Big Day! Thank you Adam and John for giving us something to look forward to besides presents under the tree And thank you to all of the producers who gave the gift of Gigawatt this holiday You helped make our season bright It's never too late to send someone some coffee. Just visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order, Merry Christmas and stay caffeinated." And Eli, Darren O'Neill said he wants some coffee sent to him. I don't know if you can put him on the free list but you could practically deliver it because he's in Chicago. You walk over there. Yeah, Eli the Coffee Guy! Thank you, Eli. Indy NA meetup in Greenwood Indiana 205

2:35:18 And we have a switcheroo, this is the Indy No Agenda meetup. Raffle winner is Dame Maria... Oh! The organizer? Yes. ...of the Greek kingdoms. Maria's note, Sir Mark and I wish all of our No Agenda family Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays and blessings to all and especially to Adam and John and all your families. Karma to all And to all a good night. With cake! You've got karma So now we have two $200 associate executive producer donations without a note so I will combine their double up karma Thank you Steve Peterson from Kingaroy, Queensland Australia

2:36:01 Let us know how things are going there in Kingaroy. And Ian Sloan from Attadale, Washington of Western Australia... Wait a minute! Two Aussies? In a row?! No notes!? This cannot be coincidence please send us some notes to make up. You've got karma. Very suspicious. Linda Lou Padkin's up she's in Castle Rock Colorado we know that yep 200 bucks jobs Karma need a last-minute gift give the gift of a resume that gets results. Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs, that's ImageMakers Inc with a K! And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Merry Christmas, Linda! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! And finally on our list we have Paul

2:36:55 Paul Krushulik, then I pronounced that properly because he sent a pronunciation guide. He just said Paul Krushulik $200. He's in Binghamton New York thank you very much and i also want to thank Lady Vox. Lady Vox sent me a beautiful Christmas package with the card and some sockeye salmon from she's in Alaska And some, like a little box with salted fish? Have you ever had one of those? I had the sockeye. She sent me the sockeye salmon Yeah! Have you had it yet? We haven't opened it yet No, I put in the refrigerator actually But did you try the salted fish? I didn't see a salted fish All I got was the sockeye salmon Oh well, you got gypped man The sockeye...the salted fish is good It comes like in a...looks like a pack of...a deck of cards

2:37:43 Oh, I saw. Yeah, did get the deck of cards. I thought it was a deck of cards! So that I'm like what kind of cards are these? Wait wait...that's fishy? Salted fish. Ohhhh....I had the deck of cards put aside There you go Thank you all to these executive and associate executive producers for this pre-Christmas show 1827 is the episode We appreciate what everyone does here to keep The Best Podcast in The Universe rolling You can go to NoahJenTheDonations.com I love what I do. And that is where you can support us any amount, anytime you want to. That is how Value for Value works no subscriptions, no hoops, no jumps, no levels just whatever you feel the show was worth to you according to your own budget just send that back to the show. That's how you keep it rolling. Noah Jenner Donations dot com Congratulations to these producers! Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

Trump Presidential Walk of Fame and Kennedy Center Renaming

President Trump has installed a "Presidential Walk of Fame" at the White House, featuring plaques with his personal opinions on past presidents, such as "Sleepy Joe" Biden and "divisive" Barack Obama. Additionally, a controversy has erupted over the renaming of the Kennedy Center to the "Trump-Kennedy Center." The Kennedy family and Democratic leaders have criticized the move, citing federal laws regarding national memorials.

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2:38:43 Order! Man, I just gotta play this one clip because it was so funny. It's even better with video but you'll get the idea This president just keeps on entertaining as far as i'm concerned Sleepy, divisive and a fan of a young Donald Trump These are just some of the descriptions to be found in a series of new plaques affixed below portraits of all US presidents including Donald Trump himself. While the plaques may look like many official markers, they are written in the style of one of Trump's true social posts and contain his haphazard capitalizations and numerous exclamation points

2:39:29 They are the latest addition to Trump's presidential walk of fame, which he unveiled in September and contain many insults and unfounded claims about most of his predecessors. Joe Biden who was referred to as Sleepy Joe and by far the worst president in American history is still the only leader... That's the actual plaque reading. Yeah, no these plaques are great a photo of an auto pen with his signature was used. Barack Obama was deemed one of the most divisive political figures in American history, while Ronald Reagan was described as a fan of President Donald J Trump before President Trump's historic run for the White House. The White House confirmed that plaques convey Trump's opinion. No kidding! The plaques are eloquently written descriptions of each president and the legacy they left behind

2:40:19 student of history, many were written directly by the president himself. This installation is just Trump's latest effort to remake the White House in his own image and reshape US history to his own viewpoint Well that goes hand in hand with this clip then. Massive troll, I just love trolling. No he's a massive troll it is actually embarrassing this is the Trump renaming of the Kennedy Center Oh there's another good one Friday revealing the new Trump-Kennedy center to the horror of the late president John F. Kennedy's family. Jeff Kaye niece Maria Shriver posting It Is Beyond Wild that Trump would think adding his name in front of President Kennedy's name

2:40:58 Next thing perhaps you will want to rename JFK Airport, rename the Lincoln Memorial. The list goes on Democrats indicating action ahead we may not be able to stop it today obviously the lettering is going up but let's just see how long that lettering stays up. Exhibition members of Kennedy Center board said federal law established a center as a memorial to President Kennedy and prohibits changing its name without congressional action but Trump also So By the way, the Democrats after changing Ford Hood to some other name. Yes! Changing all these Fords and then tearing down statues and all the rest of it... That was fine And by the way it was named by LBJ a year after he was assassinated Probably more like LBJ like yeah I did that you know okay

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Executive Order on American Space Superiority and Moon Bases

A new executive order on "Ensuring American Space Superiority" prioritizes returning Americans to the moon by 2028 and establishing a permanent lunar outpost by 2030. The policy aims to foster lunar economic development and prepare for future Mars exploration while enhancing defense capabilities in "cis-lunar space." The hosts discuss the technical definition of cis-lunar space and the role of commercial partners like Elon Musk.

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2:42:06 The president has also been very busy with his pen, no auto-pen with him. The Ensuring American Space Superiority Executive Order This is a doozy! Yes. I bet My administration will focus its space policy... Ah we need a space policy on the show We do On achieving the following priorities Of course leading the world in space exploration and expanding human reach and American presence in space by colon Returning Americans to the moon by 2028 through the Artemis program, to assert American leadership in space. We're already there! Lay the foundations for lunar economic development. Prepare for the journey to Mars and inspire the next generation of American explorers

2:43:00 Along with that, establishing initial elements of a permanent lunar outpost by 2030 to ensure... The dreary moon bases. That's right! To ensure sustained American presence in space and enable the next steps in Mars exploration. This is fantastic Enhancing, this is for Elon. Enhancing sustainability and cost effectiveness of launch and exploration architectures including enabling commercial launch services and prioritizing lunar exploration. Thought we explored that thing already? And then there's some missile stuff by 2028 to kill everybody. Ensuring the ability to detect, characterize and counter threats to United Space interests from very low Earth orbit and through cis-lunar space. Cis lunar space? S-C-I-S L-U-N-A-R

2:43:59 What is cis? I have no idea. Is that like a white... Ask your machine, you have not talked to the robot for weeks! No, I don't want to talk to the robot. Situated between Earth and Moon, Cislunar Well what is cisgendered then? Between Earth and Moon Yeah, nah, I've given up on the robot The robot takes too long for it to respond If the robot could just, you know, you say hey robot and the robot says yes. Yes master what can I do for you? AI just doesn't do that yet it's not a great conversational partner So uh these Zeds are at it again Oh no Are they in Discord? I don't know they don't say And they don't even mention as though it was a Gen-Z revolution or anything but its going on A Zed uprising once again this time is in Korea

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

South Korean Youth Protests Supporting Yoon Suk-yeol

Thousands of young people in South Korea have taken to the streets to protest the imprisonment of former President Yoon Suk-yeol, claiming his attempt at martial law was justified to prevent a Chinese takeover. The "Freedom University" group and other Gen Z protesters have adopted "Make Korea Great Again" style hats and anti-immigration rhetoric. The movement reflects a growing nationalist sentiment among South Korean youth who feel disenfranchised by "woke" politics.

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2:44:58 they kind of soft-pedaled it. I don't know exactly why and i'm not absolutely sure who's behind it, I mean I still have to assume is our intel people but I don't know... But listen to this South Korea recently marked a year since President Yoon Suk-yool failed martial law attempt while the country's new leader is trying to move on from the chaos and division Mr. Yoon is finding new fans amid disaffected young people did young people did young people. Earlier this month, thousands took to the street calling for Mr Yoon's release from prison and claiming that his martial law was justified. Our Seoul correspondent Jake Kwon sent us this report

2:45:38 Hmm, okay. Well that's yeah this is a against China women so kids actually are going to the streets saying get a politician out of jail That's how the gen yeah They could put this is that Korean president who declared martial law if you remember it was during You know a couple years ago I remember he goes nuts and declares martial law for some reason they throw him in jail And now the kids and now the kids want him out because he was so loved by Gen Zed Yeah, in that it makes nothing but sense. No it doesn't make sense. They try to explain as best they can I'm standing in front of the iconic Gwanghwamun Gate where South Korean people gather every weekend to protest and In front me are thousands of people here waving South Korean flag And waving a sign that says release Yoon Seok-yol and martial law was justified It really has this air of a festival rather than a political rally

2:46:34 One booth invited people to a mock presidential podium to declare martial law like Mr. Yoon had done. Last December, in the middle of the night, Mr. Yoon had put the country under military rule. He'd made baseless claims that Chinese spies have stolen past elections and that the opposition party was complicit When Mr. Yun was eventually removed from the office and jailed, it was considered his political death But now he has a new life among these young people as a hero who opposed the Chinese takeover This is Park Joon-young the leader of Freedom University

2:47:16 He and his group of far-right students are behind these pro-Yun, anti China rallies. Korean people's rights are being stolen our sovereignty is at risk and the Chinese are coming in without visa and crimes are becoming frequent Their claims were refuted over and over by the government The police stats show in fact that the crime rate among Chinese is lower than among South Koreans Oh this has us written all over it Doesn't it the whole Trump agenda lock the borders down these Chinese are coming just replace trend or tent render agua or Venezuelans or Haitians or

2:47:55 I can't wait until an actual Korean says, these Chinese are eating the dogs. That would be coming. Yeah. The victory comes close." Their protests are more energized and provocative than any other this country has seen in a long time. Most people joined us because of a simple message Korea is for Koreans Today Park's message spread through social media is drawing in young people who share his suspicion on China I'm Lee Min-sung, 27 years old. There are times when I don't hear Korean on the street Even when i go to the corner store, I only hear Chinese That really scares me Here in Seoul they wear red hats with the words make Korea great again And if American youth voters swung over to bring back an impeached president Why not in Korea?

2:48:50 For years, these people have held a deep grudge for what they saw as lack of opportunities and overbearing woke politics. And when Mr. Yoon named the enemy, they signed up to fight. See unlike you I'm going to give you a full clip in the day for that. You always give me like weak... No no i give you a clip. Borderline oh I deserve it so much. That was good. Well, that one was pretty good because you caught you off guard. You only give me clip of the day when it's something you never heard about well Yeah That's why it's clip of the day Of course if I'd already heard about it Then I would be playing before you cuz I control the clips I'll be like I'm gonna grab that clip for today and then you wouldn't give it to him Because like I had that clip

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DC Police Chief Pamela Smith Resignation Controversy

DC Police Chief Pamela Smith announced her resignation amid allegations of fudging crime statistics, which she vehemently denied in a heated speech. The hosts link this to the "Mo Prophecy," which suggests diverse hires are often set up to fail in high-pressure roles. The discussion also touches on Nicki Minaj's appearance at America Fest and her history of independent political stances.

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2:49:36 Yeah, that's how it works. So the most without the voice yeah so this is you right This is that this has got us written all over and it was pretty good And they got the hats Maka really back a Maca make make Make Korea great to get my god Make Korea great again. Make Korea great. They probably have it in Korean, it probably has a different look to it. I'd like to get... by the way anyone, any Korean listeners? I want that hat if its in Korean! Yes we want a hat So the Moe prophecy strikes once again. Moe's prophecy, if you recall was all of the DEI ladies who were put up in important positions... Set up to fail. Set up to fail blamed for everything In this case I believe that DCs police chief Pamela Smith probably was really set up she is being accused of fudging crime statistics

2:50:44 And so she's resigning, abandoning her resignation. She says no no I didn't change it they changed it insinuating that they are blaming her and she had a quite a meltdown over during her resignation speech Never would I compromise my integrity last 28 years of law enforcement for a few folk who couldn't stand accountable Do it all over again So she pulls out the angry black woman as a methodology? What is she nuts?! Let's continue the clip. So I'm going to the Bible when I say this, to my haters

2:51:40 F you. The same folks who said in that report that they changed their numbers, and I did not. The report is very clear. I did not direct anyone. You should investigate those folks So I tend to believe her, but you made an interesting point there. When I heard and had to listen to the clip three times, I'm like, I have heard this lady somewhere that's just going to come across as very racist, but no one will be able to argue with me that this lady doesn't sound like a different lady. Never would I compromise my integrity!

2:52:25 Come on man, it sounds a lot you love that Obama phone girl You know And you know, I got the note from our female black producer. She's like do you only play black women when they're mad? I'm like well it's the funniest we played the funniest clips and she said how about Nicki Minaj and like send me a link to...she didn't send me any anyway um i just saw that Nicki Minaj was on stage at America Fest with Erica Kirk

2:53:07 I've got some clips for the next show. Nicki Minaj, she's got her head on straight man it was very surprising she's taken...I think she can be an important part of the movement in America for young kids She has something going on So like i said last show she has been a Republican for awhile Yes! She voted for Romney we have to remember that Romney? Romney sucks Let me hear that lady again, I love her. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority got Obama phone! Keep Obama in president you know? He gave us a phone! She doesn't have the Romney sucks in there...I gotta get the Romney sucks part. Anyway

2:53:50 That was... so another Mo prophecy coming true as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I always thought it was a good prophecy Let's go talking about angry black women let's go to the Minnesota because they do oh that's right Hakeem Jeffries is the guy Never mind. Angry Black woman Hakeem Jeffries So here's the Minnesota fraud two clips and one of them i think the second clip when Hakeem Jeffries comes out is hilarious but I kinda have to agree. Here we go.

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Minnesota Medicaid Fraud Investigation and Tim Walz

House Republicans, led by Chairman James Comer, are investigating widespread Medicaid fraud in Minnesota involving Somali social services programs. Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General Keith Ellison are accused of stonewalling the probe into an estimated $9 billion in fraudulent payments. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries defended the Minnesota leaders, calling the investigation a "joke" and an "embarrassment."

tim walz· keith ellison· james comer· hakeem jeffries· medicaid fraud

2:54:31 across the country. Chairman James Comer says Minnesota's governor and attorney general have provided only minimal responses so far here is congressional correspondent Bill Malugian. They got nothing to run on except complain about this, so you complain at me and then we'll see how you talk about it. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz defiant today as House Republicans accuse him and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison of stonewalling their investigation in a widespread Somali social services fraud in the state Well, they're not cooperating with us. They're acting like there was no scandal and if there were a scandal they didn't have anything to do with it Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer tells Fox Walls & Ellison's initial response to the committee's questions was quote anemic

2:55:18 providing no substantive information on how Medicaid is paid out in the state. We're going to start bringing people in, we're going to start subpoenaing people. We are also gonna be looking at bank records that's my favorite way to conduct an investigation On Thursday, a U.S attorney in Minnesota announced that at least half of the 18 billion dollars paid out by Medicaid Minnesota-run programs may have been fraudulent, with at least 14 programs exploited. The magnitude of the fraud in Minnesota cannot be overstated. It's staggering amounts of money Yeah I've been following this and reading some of it is pretty brazen particularly the autism fund you know basically they were setting up autism

2:56:06 What is it therapy stuff and yeah, just grab some taking the money grab some Somalis. Hey kid go like this You're autistic in you go and they just took the money Yeah, yeah. They were taking money left and right for countries whose average IQ in Somalia is 65. Oh well there you go they qualify! These guys are pretty smart for 65 about taking money I think there's some scammish underlying thing going on here but of course the Democrats are all in...yeah they're fine these Somalians are great

2:56:44 Yes, they're great. House Republicans are expressing outrage about the fraud on social media pointing the finger at Governor Walz but house minority leader Hakeem Jeffries isn't impressed with Chairman Comer or his committee's probe of Minnesota's leaders Do you think they should cooperate with committees investigation and do have concerns about what's happening in this state? James Comar is a joke embarrassment, an unserious individual and a malignant clown. So clearly there's still some bad blood there between Comer and Jeffries after a dispute about the Epstein files last month as for the Minnesota fraud Congressman Comer tells Fox that he is prepared to subpoena Governor Walz to come in and testify before the House Oversight Committee if Wals doesn't cooperate with their investigation Brett. Bill sometimes these things take

2:57:33 take time. What's the next step? So you heard Congressman Comer talk about wanting to get those bank records, he said specifically what he is looking for are things called suspicious activity reports He wants to try and track what if any money was sent from Minnesota back to Somalia who was sending it, who got it how much of it was taxpayer dollars Alright we'll follow up Bill thank you But will they be able to nail Waltz is the question They won't be able to nail anybody if Comer is involved this where I agree with Jeffrey He says its a joke I mean, what happened to Hunter Biden's laptop? We're gonna connect the Biden crime family because all I get is bank records. That's why he was a big banker! Oh so look at this the money is coming from here to here and it shows that there's a bunch of corruption going on they're just stealing money left and right. So?!

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Final Donor Credits and Knighthood Bestowal

The hosts complete the reading of donor credits for the episode, thanking producers who contributed $50 or more. Darius Miller is officially knighted as "Sir D" for his brother's contribution of over $1,000. The segment reinforces the show's reliance on the No Agenda community to maintain its independent operation without traditional advertising.

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2:58:24 I mean, it's just at some point you have to be annoyed with certain people that just talk a big game. Do you have anything nice for us to leave on before we thank people? All we're doing is grousing! Everything is a scam man! The whole world is a scam! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah On NO AGENDA Well, we have a few people who think I was looking for the clips to see if there's anything that could actually go out of it. There is nothing positive and it's all like this except you know another oil tanker was seized oh that's fun yay

2:59:09 Yeah, well that's free oil. That is true. So you know free oils good so we have a few people more to thank and there are people who donate $50 and above an Adams gonna read them off for us one at a time yes I shall we start with Legacy Third LLC in Dallas what do you think legacy third LLC is? I don't know we'd have to look it up. I wonder what they do must be something interesting well thank you yes Though I was gonna say they donate. They donate, which is good! Thank you very much $198 Dame Rita Sparks Nevada always coming in 168 today ITM John Adam Merry Christmas thank you Nathan Cochran there he is Franklin Tennessee for MercyMe 123 dot four five it's always the introverted bass player who's really supporting us where are all these other guys? Where's the drummer?! The drummer's never going to donate

3:00:01 It's only it's only Nathan and Mike and you know, I'm gonna be Barry that's a Julie no Glen. What happened to her a Weezer drummer? I think he's man overboard. Yeah, I think so too Julie Noll Glendale Arizona one two three dot four or five Thank You PayPal for $118 of 50 cents glad you're listening karma karma Karma Ovandepur, Karma Ovandepur maybe. Allen Texas 100 Megan Coffold in Grove City Ohio 100 thank you Maria Rickert Hong Nutritional Healing Maria Rickert from Hong Nutritional Healing Westport Connecticut no where all the hoity-toities live $100 Thank you to another Bitcoiner just came in a strike No note so we don't know who sent us the 94 dollars but we appreciate it and PayPal

3:00:58 underneath the Strikers with $92.96? How does that even happen? It just says PayPal, I don't understand it. I think that could be refunds. We get these refunds because we use the PayPal account for buying stamps and things to ship out the rings and things like that. And so if PayPal gives you money back if you use their card... All right well thank You PayPal! Tatiana Prince, Marlboro New Jersey 89 Kevin McLaughlin Concord North Carolina he is the Archduke of Luna and lover of America and boobs. He says I love boobs! And the US Constitution and sends us the requisite $80.08 8008 Chris Perry Silver Spring Maryland 77 dot 77 I figured out what that is 77 dot 77 is 6969 plus fees believe it or not Wow yes well you sent me a note about

3:01:52 Aerts Tukker in Berghambacht, in the Netherlands. 77 so that's probably a 69 Lydia Terry Dominelli Rochester New Hampshire 75 Monica Lansing Drayton Valley Alberta Canada 65 76 Nicole Weerman in Toowleton Oregon 5555 And Sir Patsy in Bellevue, Nebraska. Double nickels on the dime and it's blue so I'm gonna read the note because he's becoming a knight He says, ITM Adam and John this 5510 pushes me over another $1,000 donated. Accounting attached I'd like to bestow a knight... Oh! A knighthood on my brother Darius Miller so it's a knights witcheroo Please deduce it You've been de-douche'ed Though he has never donate his own cash to my knowledge anyway he has hit a lot of people in the mouth Three those people have gone on to become Knights including myself

3:02:50 He's a great example of what spreading the formula, propagating the formula can accomplish. Please knight him Sir D if we could get him some Weller Antique 107 bourbon and fried catfish nuggets for the round table I know he would appreciate it Jingles chemtrails and that's true if possible much love Merry Christmas from sir Patsy Chemtrails It's not the one we wanted That's true. This is the one I wanted. That's true, that- No? That's not the one either... Where is it?! We have too many It's True! It's true! Is this the one? Is this it? We welcome in- Nope. What is going on!?

3:03:34 Chicks, there we go. That's true. Got it I knew it was labeled right Zachary D Barker from Beaver Creek Oregon also double nickels on the dime Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg Maryland 5272 Ronald Ronald Montesano 5272 Ryan Aceto in Argyle, Texas 50 these are the fifties Terrence Boyer in Tuscola Illinois Andrew Gusek and Greenboro North Carolina Todd Voss in Davenport Iowa and CT from parts unknown $50. Thank you very much to all of these producers and those who came in under $50, which we won't mention for reasons of anonymity. And of course again our executive and associate executive producers, we really do appreciate everything that you do um...and you can support us for the next show now the next show will be a best-of doesn't mean you can't support us in fact we encourage it so the show on next Sunday will be extra long for thanking all the people who've sent us their Christmas wishes

3:04:33 NoAgendaDonations.com is where you can support the show, we are the best podcast in the universe except no imitations! We are the best podcast in the universe! Very short list, but we do have important people there. Dame Nikki Ray turns 55 on December 23rd and on the night before Christmas we say happy birthday in advance from Rob Carty our constitutional lawyer for his beautiful wife Maggie She'll be turning redacted years old. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe So we got one night and there is the sword if here you go Darius Miller hop on up sir, you are about to become a knight and apparently you deserve every single

3:05:27 Piece of silver coating on that ring. Thanks to your brother who hooked you up in the amount of $1,000 or more I'm very proud to pronounce a KD as Sir D! You are now an official knight of the Noah Jenner Roundtable For you we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay Perhaps you'd like some Weller Antique 107 Bourbon And fried catfish nuggets We got them here for ya at The Round Table Along with Geishas & Sake Vodka & Vanilla, Bong Hits & Bourbons Sparkling Cider & Escorts, Gin Drill & Gerbils We got breast milk and pablum, but as always the favorite at the round table is the mutton and the mead. You sir head on over with your brother perhaps to noagenderrings.com you'll see a handsome signet ring that we bestow upon the knights and dames of The No Agenda Round Table With that a certificate of authenticity and some wax which you can use to seal your important correspondence just like Lady Vox when she sent it to me It was nice now it's always fun to see this red sealing wax

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No Agenda Community Meetups and Events

The hosts highlight several upcoming No Agenda meetups, including events in North Idaho, Clovis, California, and Fort Wayne, Indiana. They play a recording from a recent large meetup in Indiana where producers gathered despite freezing temperatures. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendameetups.com to find or start local gatherings of the "No Agenda family."

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3:06:23 with the night ring embedded into it. Thank you all very much! Time for the meetups! The Meetups is where you will find your future mate perhaps or for sure connection that gives you protection, the producers who will meet there will be a respondent in first... your first respondents in an emergency And of course, he had the big Indie NA meetup with Sir Mark and Dame Maria. Dame Maria received the credit from the raffle and of course we have Annette, Dame Annett Miller who gave us a little report from the indie meetup. Hi this is Sir Mark. And this is Dame Maria in minus 13 Celsius here having an amazing time!

3:07:09 And it's so good to end the year with this No Agenda family. Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year! Sir Benny here, and actually Adam we're gonna take your example of hearing aids tomorrow and go see the J-Bros and see if they're any good later in the morning Dame Swanny! Merry Christmas John & Adam It's Annette in Millville and I hope you guys have a great one also shout out to Cindy and Gary In the morning Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy in the frozen tundra at 9 degrees. In the morning John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang still working on my gay British accent! In the morning this is Sir Rip of The Maple and I'm giving Sir PBR Street Gang a really hard time trying to master that gay British accent

3:07:57 In the morning, John and Adam. This is Nick and I'm still working on my straight American accent Wait what? Hi this is Christine! I work at the Blind Al Brewery And had the pleasure of serving this wonderful group today And I even won a prize! In the morning Merry Christmas We denounce everybody They are the best group I tell you we denounce everybody Thank you all very much and thank you for getting your server in there. We love that, yeah this is the kind of fun you can have at a NOAA agenda meetup and if it can happen in Indiana it can happen anywhere Coming up we have a meet-up on December 23rd Tuesday This is the North Idaho Sanity Brigade And they sent in a promo I'm dreaming Of a w***e Gr**

3:08:51 Yes, reverse cultural appropriation will abound since I, Sir Scott the Jew will be hosting the North Idaho Sanity Brigade's Christmas party this Tuesday the 23rd at our usual Haunt The Trails Inn Brewery in Coeur d'Alene. Yes that's Coeur d'Alene! That number again is Coeur d'Alene Great food great beer and some of the best company in Gitmo Nation Maybe I'll even kick in some of that Jew money and we'll crowdfund a donation as has become our tradition Hope to see you there and remember, joy to the world even though the world's a scam.

3:09:33 On Friday the 26th, that's Boxing Day for some of you. A recalcitrant Christmas hangover meetup will take place at 2 33 p.m in The Backyard Social Club in Clovis California Oh Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II will be hosting that and on December 27th That Saturday the Fort Wayne club 33 Nvidia Navidad post-Christmas Meet up three o'clock Cibola's Mexican Grill and that is in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And the final meetup for this year December 30th Evansville Indiana want to find all these? Want to get some details hang out with some cool people go to noagendameetups.com you'll find it all there if you can't find anything they're near you know what you do start one yourself it'll be easy and a hootenanny! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

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Man Versus Machine ISO Selection and Costco Wine Tip

In the "Man Versus Machine" segment, the hosts select an "ISO" clip for the end of the show, choosing a human-voiced clip over AI-generated options. John Dvorak provides a "Costco Tip of the Day," recommending the 2023 Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon from Sonoma County for $6.99. He notes that while it may not taste like a traditional Cabernet, it is an excellent value for a table wine.

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3:10:25 And it's time for man versus machine that is the moment when we select our end of show ISO And it has just become a man versus machine competition as I tend to choose humans who say something cute or funny and John chooses to use robots for this segment. I have a real one today You mean, a human? A real human Do you want to play your real human first No, let's you play yours then I can defer I had a great time! Let's go! Ah...I don't like how that cut off

3:11:13 Here's my second one. On it like a hobo on a ham sandwich! Okay, that's all I got Wow Yeah well sorry...I mean I can't just prompt my way to success like some So let's go with the real one this is dump Massive dump A massive dump Now that was the real one. Okay, so when they were going to machine... Machine? I don't see machine- Oh! No no no I'm just... I got you. Thank you. Yes, you're welcome Let's start with Capture It's not Audience Capture it's Audience Rapture! Okay yeah like I like the writing I like the writings okay ok here's the other one for effort

3:12:02 These boys get an A for effort and an S for sexy. It's a little too long, and a little too contrived because let's face it we're not sexy Okay, let's go to fab what a fabulous show no I think it's not audience capture its audience rapture It just gets me I love it. Yeah, I'm sorry you what do you want? This is gonna say that weird thing about those three clips. It was the same voice Oh yeah That's the voice that for some reason if you change this speed it turns into a different person and now everybody just in time for Christmas It's time for John's tip of the day

3:12:42 Okay, people always want a Costco wine recommendation so I'm gonna do one. This is a cheapie. This is the idea, it's a cheap wine for people who want to have something that's drinkable It's quite good, surprisingly good for $699 Whoa! That is a deal and a steal all in one What's super cheap? And there are two versions There's a 1499 version and there's a 699 version The 699 is better

3:13:18 Because you might buy two bottles of that for the same price. So this is a new wine that just showed up This is a 2023 Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon Sonoma County, California 2023 it's got a maroon label The words cabernet sauvignon means its military It's got a maroon label and the Cabernet Sauvignon is what's highlighted on the labels writing. It just says, Cabernet Sauvignon real big. It's $699 there said there's one that also says Napa Valley same thing only it's got a navy blue label is 1499. Is not as good as this in terms for the price that's for sure. If you give it an hour to breathe so it breathes a little bit air out

3:14:09 This is a just that neither one of these wines tastes like Cabernet Sauvignon, by the way. But what do they taste like? They taste like a really good quality wine and good table wine in general. You know, bland Bordeaux blend cabernet has a very distinctive flavor and I always expect to hope to find it in California ones. I find it less and less because Nobody's blending for it anymore. They've gotten to this idea, well let's just blend all these grapes together so it tastes like a Bordeaux. If it would taste like a Bordeaux I'll go buy a Bordeaux cost a buck more and those little wooden crates are better but besides that this is a very drinkable perfect turkey wine that is cheap

3:14:53 And so this is your Costco tip of the day. Okay, so I think it will buy some of this Costco cheap wine because the kids were telling me...I call them the kids in their 30's that the hip drink these days is a mixed drink of red wine and Coca-Cola Have you ever heard of this? I have actually What is it called It's called a disgrace. No, AgendaFun.com, Tipoftheday.net for all of them! Nailed it! And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti and that ladies and gentlemen is the perfect example of the comedic stylings of John C Dvorak at Adam Curry has set up Aliyu BAM two points right there

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Episode 1827 Outro and End of Show Mixes

Adam Curry and John Dvorak sign off from episode 1827, wishing listeners a Merry Christmas. The show concludes with several holiday-themed "AI slop" music mixes, including "Christmas Sweater Puppies" and a parody song about the Epstein files coming to town. The hosts remind listeners to support the show via value-for-value donations before the next "best-of" episode.

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3:15:47 Can't get that from your AI? Uh-uh, not gonna happen. What you also can't get is the show that's coming up after we vacate the stream. That will be Hawk Story with my man Fletcher there, a little bit north in Texas and end of show mixes very Christmas-y themed We've got Scaramanga with his sweater puppies MVP with The Files coming to town and Baron Darren O'Neal with a Givemonation Christmas You will not want to miss these they are all in the show notes because it's AI slop And no one cares about the rights No one makes any money So please make sure you tune in for our special Sir Donald Winkler end of special show on Christmas.

3:16:30 And of course we'll be back on next Sunday. So have yourselves a very Merry Christmas coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it remains inclement! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll see ya right after Christmas until then take care everybody remember us at knowagenthedonations.com Adios mofos Ahoy hoy and such Oh, oh, oh! Look at those.

3:17:13 Christmas sweater puppies, oh what a sight Bouncing so merry and bright Those wooly wonders wrapped up so snug Make this old Santa wanna give him a hug Christmas sweater puppies Jing-jing jingling all the way Best gift under the tree any day If Santa asks what I want this year, I'll point to your sweater and whisper those words.

3:17:49 Christmas sweater puppies, oh what a delight Keeping me warm on a cold winter's night Those wooly wonders wrapped up so tight Baby you're making Christmas feel just right Christmas sweater puppies Jing-jing jingling all the way Merriest cheeriest happiest holiday Hey! Christmas sweater puppy, ah Yeah that's the spirit Better watch out Keep your lawyers nearby Don't delete the cloud I'm telling you why Epstein files are coming to town They're making a list Todd Blanche checked it twice Some names were redacted

3:19:00 But some aren't so nice. The Epstein files are on their way down They've got the grand jury from the Florida case. They've got photos of passports and every rich face. They know who signed the birthday book, though they claim it's all a fake. They know who took the payoff check for goodness sakes. Oh you better watch out don't start to cry The transparency act means you cannot hide

3:19:37 Bring down the clown knockdown. Where's my sundown rubbed out? They see bill on the tarmac they see dawn at the club Dersch with a nurse Woody Allen just palin, they see the Lolita quotes and the island sub They've got the flight manifest from the private jets And hundreds of thousands of docs that we haven't seen yet The files are near Yeah, the list is coming midnight Friday deadline passes nothing to see here

3:20:29 It's Christmas time in Gitmo Nation. It's a wonderful season of giving, the best gifts come right from the heart and make life worth living! So many! Coffee from Little John's Candy Shop will make Christmas morning really pop Watch for me like a coffee guy Just watch your holiday spirit fly Like a possum, you just need cows Magic lavender blossoms Or if a new job is what you need Loo with the image makers, we're the king So make all of your lists and check them at least twice And if you need a little help Here's my advice

3:21:34 Some homemade toffee from Little John's Candy Shop We'll make Christmas morning coffee guys Just watch your holidays, love Like a possum you just need cows magic lousems Or if a new job is what you're destined to do With a bit of Triggerz ink with a can Merry Christmas Kidmo Nation The best podcast in the universe

3:22:21 Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A It's not audience capture it's audience rapture!