57:53 And there's a couple other places which would vote like this. You know, they think they know it all. And also, Mamdani, I'm sorry, I'm always gonna have trouble to get his name out smoothly. Mamdani is going to have difficulty when he gets back to New York by the naysayers there. Why did you meet with Trump? The DSAs in particular, why did you meet with Trump? You shouldn't have met with Trump. Why are you meeting with Trump? He's the enemy, blah, blah, blah. You don't think the DSA approved it and set him up for it and gave him the talking points and they just never thought that Trump would do this? No. I don't think Montani is run by anybody.
58:38 I think once he got in, I think he's full of himself. I think he's really convinced he doesn't need their help. Kind of like a Gavin Newsom type deal. Newsom's the same way. He's not run by anybody right now. Smoking his own dope. Smoking his own dope. Is that what you think? Yeah. Well, Mamdani was on... He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who's... I mean, he's not an idiot. No. You don't need to be much more than above an idiot to be a politician. It's like show business for ugly people. No, but it's useful. It is useful. So Mamdani was on with Manhans Welker this morning on NBC Meet the Press.
59:21 So this is hot breaking, breaking right off, hot off the press, breaking news. Were you surprised by the warm welcome that you got? You know, I was looking forward to having the meeting with the president to speak about the needs of the eight and a half million people who call the city we love home. Yep, yep, that's, you're so right. It's exactly what he talks about. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's pretty good. And to speak about the needs of the eight and a half million people who call the same city we love home and to speak frankly about the affordability crisis that is pushing so many of them out of those five boroughs. And I found in the meeting that I had with the president a productive one and a meeting that came back again and again to the central themes of the campaign that we ran. The cost of housing, cost of childcare, the cost of groceries, the cost of utilities.
1:00:05 And it showed that this is an opportunity to now start to deliver so that people can do more than just aspire to struggle in New York City, but actually to be able to live there. But did you expect it to be so chummy? What was going through your head when... Take two. Come on, Kristen, you can do it. You were standing there. You know, I thought again and again about what it would mean for New Yorkers if we could establish... There it is. It's perfect. I'm just thinking about New Yorkers, people. that would focus on the issues that those New Yorkers stay up late at night thinking about. Because so often in our politics, we try and tell people what they should be worried about, what they should be concerned about. But when you actually ask New Yorkers and you listen to them, you hear it come back to the issues that animated not just the conversation the president and I had with the press after our meeting, but frankly in the meeting itself.
1:00:48 It was a conversation where we spoke about the need to deliver on this agenda and I appreciated that when the president, when we had that meeting, it wasn't just in the Oval Office, he also took me into the Cabinet Room and there we were looking at portraits of presidents of years gone by and we admired a portrait of FDR. And in many ways, when I think about the candidacy that we've put forward, it looks to Fiorella LaGuardia as the greatest mayor in New York City history. You can't tell the story of LaGuardia without telling the story of FDR and the story of a relationship with the federal government that finally delivered at the scale of the crisis it was facing. Now you would be uniquely positioned to explain the relevance of the FDR painting they took the picture in front of.
1:01:31 I don't know what specifically you're asking me to do here. Well, tell us about FDR. Well, FDR was a socialist or a populist in some ways if you think about it. In fact, that's the reason I think he got re-elected so many times because he was actually a populist. But he put in a socialist agenda or left-wing agenda. But he was a populist just like Trump and LaGuardia is like the same kind of a analog of this Mamadomini guy. He's trying to put it together that this is the same relationship. And Trump, by the way, picked up on this and claimed that he was now being equated with FDR.
1:02:11 And that got picked up by all the right ringers. Everybody picked that up. Everybody picked up on the Trump FDR connection. And so this whole thing is, I mean, this Mamdani guy is terrific as a subtle propagandist. I don't know where he got these skills. I think he was probably discovered just by the DSA guy, by the same people that found the guy with the tattoo. And AOC. And AOC, yeah. And he's an actor. He said it, I think, in one of the clips we had some time ago. He's a theater kid. He was a theater kid in the eighth grade. He was bitching about something in one of the clips we had some months back about some play he was in when he was a kid. Yeah, he's a theater kid. So he's a phony. But in the greater scheme of things, this is fantastic for Trump.
1:03:06 I think he really handled this. The FDR painting apparently had it pulled out of the archives. Hey, hang that thing up there. My mom Donny's coming. I got an idea. Yeah, I wonder if he showed him the auto pen picture. You know, he's got that wall of presidents goes right to Biden and Biden's picture is a picture of the auto pen. So when it came to affordability, which is really the whole point that the president is trying to gain some ground on here, because that's what Mamdani won on, ran on and won on, affordability, affordability. He finagled it so that
1:03:44 It wasn't about freezing rents and screwing owners of apartment buildings and homes. No, it was quite the opposite. It was a complete Trumpian love fest on how we're going to make housing more affordable. We had a meeting today. And build more. I'm sorry? Yeah, build more. And build more. Yes, Bill Moore, that's yes. Do I need to play the clip or this since you're I guess you wanted to get build more We had a meeting today that actually surprised me he wants to see no crime he wants to see Housing being built he wants to see rents coming down all things that I agree with Now we may disagree how we get there the rent coming down. I think
1:04:25 One of the things I really gleaned very much today, we'd like to see him come down ideally by building a lot of additional housing. That's the ultimate way. He agrees with that and so do I. But if I read the newspapers and the stories, I don't hear that. I see what he's doing here. I mean, you agree with that, don't you, Zoran? Zoran, Zoran, you agree with that. But I read the newspapers, I don't read any of that, so I'm telling you now it's Bill Moore. But I heard him say it today, and I think that's a- I heard him say it? A very positive step. No, I don't expect, I expect to be helping him, not hurting him. A big help. Because I want New York City to be great. Look, I love New York City, it's where I come from. I spent a lot of years there, now I'm right here.
1:05:10 We took a big setback with the mayor that we had, Dame de Blasio. I thought it was a tremendous setback for the city. I think this mayor can do some things that are going to be really great. Perfect. Bill, I heard him say it. He didn't say it. Of course he didn't say it. But I heard him say it. Trump is eyeballing Queens and Brooklyn, but Queens in particular because there's a limit on height. There's a height limitation. The whole city. Or the whole borough. You can't build a bunch of skyscrapers like you can in Manhattan, which is like where they... You don't want to build anymore in Manhattan. I mean, there's only a few places left. Maybe that Mamdani guy can get that restriction removed. That's the idea. They're going to get the restriction removed on the buildings and they're going to build up, they're going to build up into the air Queens to make it a mini Manhattan. And that's money in the bank.
1:06:03 Here's everybody lots of jobs, cheaper housing, it'll lessen the stress on the housing market there. It's a huge winner and they both know it. I think that's what they talked about. Back to Manhans Welker, final clip. In that press conference with President Trump, a reporter asked you whether you believe that President Trump is in fact a fascist, a word that you've used in the past. You were about to answer, then President Trump sort of jumped in and he said, quote, that's okay, you can just say yes, it's easier than explaining it. So Mr. Mayor-elect, just to be very clear, do you think that President Trump is a fascist?
1:06:46 How do you think he answered? He's got to go back to his New York fallback. No, I don't think so. No, no. It's worse. He should have done that. You think that President Trump is a fascist? And after President Trump said that, I said yes. After Trump told you to say yes. So you do. And that's something that I've said in the past, I say it today. And I think what I appreciated about the conversation that I had with the president was that we were not shy about the places of disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment. And we also wanted to focus on what it could look like to deliver on a shared analysis of an affordability crisis for New Yorkers. You've also said in the past that President Trump has engaged in a quote,
1:07:27 hack on our democracy, you've called him a despot. Do you still believe President Trump is a threat to the democracy? Everything that I've said in the past I continue to believe and that's the thing that I think is important in our politics is that we don't shy away from where we have disagreements. This is a slick answer by the way. Everything I've said in the past, like, I, he's not going to say yes. He says, everything I've said in the past, I still believe today. Everything that I've said in the past, I continue to believe. And that's the thing that I think is important in our politics, is that we don't shy away from where we have disagreements, but we understand what it is that brings us to that table. Because I'm not coming into the Oval Office to make a point or make a stand. I'm coming in there to deliver for New Yorkers. A few weeks ago, I was asked by a reporter three words to describe myself. I said, New York City. And that's what animated that conversation. How do we deliver for the people of New York City?
1:08:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a good game. It was good. I was very, I was very, uh, very delighted with this, with what happened. It was fun to watch. I have a bunch of clips that kind of follow up on this on socialism BS. All right. Because this was a series of... I don't know why this commentary came up. I think, well, why did it come up? Because we're talking about socialism now more than we used to. And this is from NTD, which of course is a right-wing operation for all practical purposes that I still think do some of the best news coverage in the world.