Episode 1797 · Sunday, 7 September 2025

Death Buses

A massive immigration raid at a Georgia battery plant and a million-dollar logo redesign in Austin highlight a week of institutional failure and corporate malpractice.

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Federal immigration agents executed a massive search warrant at a Hyundai battery facility in Georgia, detaining nearly 500 South Korean nationals for illegal work. The raid at the multi-billion dollar plant saw workers reportedly jumping into sewage ponds to evade capture, while subsequent reports suggest some laborers were subjected to slave-like conditions with padlocked doors. The South Korean government has expressed formal regret over the incident as Hyundai vows to investigate its subcontractors.

In Chicago, independent dive team Chaos Divers utilized sonar technology to discover 97 submerged vehicles in the Chicago River, potentially providing leads for decades of insurance fraud and cold cases. Meanwhile, the City of Austin faces backlash for a $1.1 million logo redesign that local critics compare to a basic Canva template. This spending occurs as wealthy Austin residents grapple with concrete cancer in luxury swimming pools, where defective materials have caused structures funded by PPP loans to split and leak. In the legal arena, ICE is attempting to deport a Maryland resident to Eswatini after he claimed fear of persecution in 22 other countries, a move DHS officials labeled as transparent legal maneuvering.

Democratic governors in California and Hawaii are forming a West Coast alliance to establish independent vaccine recommendations in defiance of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the incoming federal health leadership. Hawaii Governor Josh Green warned that states moving away from traditional mandates are going rogue, despite data showing high mortality rates among Native Hawaiians during his own strict lockdowns. The segment features a critique of Dr. Tara Narula’s recent appearance on Good Morning America and the linguistic evolution of the filler word um as documented by NPR.


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CHAPTER 01 / 45 Discussion

YouTube Advertisements, Pink Salt Belly Fat Scams

The discussion opens with a critique of incessant advertisements on YouTube and Rumble, specifically targeting a viral marketing campaign for pink salt that claims to remove belly fat. These ads are described as "boomer traps" that use long-winded, repetitive video sales letters similar to those produced by Stansbury Research. The hosts also touch upon the effectiveness of ad blockers and the presence of "trolls" in online chat rooms.

youtube· rumble· pink salt· belly fat· stansbury research· ad blockers

00:00 most important thing you can do is get a booster. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. This is your award winning Cuban Asian media assassination episode 1797. This is no agenda. We got the power ball! And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley where were still wondering how pink salt can remove stubborn belly fat? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! Well i don't know where to start now...I mean I was all excited about the Powerball and now uh..and now the pink salt has me curious

00:43 You haven't seen these ads, these incessant ads on YouTube? No I don't get ads on YouTube because i pay for youtube. What then you're missing out! Oh yeah I'm sure I am... I went to um.. I went uh what is the other one called? The one that Russell Brands- Rumble Yeah rumble oh man you get ads every five minutes you fast forward ad fast forward add And it's like skip in five seconds. It's a ridiculous game! Do they get credited? Yeah, but you get to see the ads for the pink salt. What is the pink salt? It removes belly fat? Here's one of these things that really bugs me and everybody out there has experienced this

01:29 Oh, we've got a secret. This is as good as those epic is pink salt the big pink salt secret and you then they yak-yak-yak And they go on forever the thing will gone forever so you have to click on like this is hands very watch the video And so there's a video that they play. I think this is some sort of PSYOP. It's like Stansbury Research, where it goes on forever and never gets to the point. There's this video that says...and then furthermore you're going to find out just we're gonna tell you in three words what to do and those three words are the most important three words and it goes on and on and on and it's just like why?

02:06 It's just unbelievable what who's dreaming this stuff up and how can anyone watch it? It's a boomer trap, but doesn't trap me cuz I get dice you're in a moment. You're my way I Love the tromes like what those guys don't know how to get an ad blocker I Got plenty at blockers most of the ad blockers don't work very well Oh, but you got the wrong head look I've been watching The Troll Room this morning. Yeah since I know since eight o'clock kind of from my peripheral vision, I'm convinced after observing this that Cy Girl and Lady Vox they're dudes. Oh i'm sure most of the women on patrol are dudes. They're dudes for sure so the winning or a winning lottery ticket of the 1.8 billion dollars uh lottery power ball was sold in Fredericksburg Texas

CHAPTER 02 / 45 Discussion

Powerball Lottery Winner, Fredericksburg Texas

A winning Powerball lottery ticket worth $1.8 billion was reportedly sold at a Biggs gas station in Fredericksburg, Texas. The hosts speculate on how winning such a massive sum would change their lives and the potential for upgrading their podcast studio.

powerball· fredericksburg· texas· lottery· biggs gas station

03:03 Did you get it? Would I be doing this show, I don't think so. Yeah you would everybody says they're never gonna change anything. If i won a billion dollars I'm gonna be the same old guy bringing my lunch to work. Oh I would call you up and say hey John here's a mill bye bye yeah that's probably what I'd do too. I'll give you two! I gave me two! Here buy! I give you two, I'd give you two. Screw it five million bye And then I'd hop on the jet, come out there and finally see your studio. If you sent me a five mil, a mil would go into fixing this studio. About what it takes. Oh man... So we went to Austin Friday stayed overnight with our friends

CHAPTER 03 / 45 Discussion

Austin City Logo Redesign, 1.1 Million Dollar Price Tag

The City of Austin has unveiled a new official logo and brand identity intended to replace 300 different city service marks at a cost of $1.1 million. Critics compare the design to a tent or intersecting freeways, suggesting it looks like it was made with a basic Canva account. The discussion highlights local frustration with the city council's spending priorities amidst other urban issues.

austin· texas· logo· branding· canva· city council

03:57 Yeah. And now this is the former Hollywood... This is the director, or no, the producer? No, no, the former Hollywood executive. Yeah, executive. He's a producer basically. Well I think he was more like a deal maker. Okay. Whatever. Chief financial officer of Marvel but really he was... Oh okay that guy. Yeah that guy. Who did you think it was? No, I thought it was. He's not the other guy? I forgot that he was... Yeah the other one guy that you know. You know, I didn't realize. I forgot it as a CFO. Yeah but really he was doing like the merchandise deals and I think he'd go with Ikon The Jet and rough up some people. That's basically what he did And they were all in a tizzy

04:51 Oh, how many people were there? There's just the two of them him and his wife. The two of them are in a tizzy. Yeah well this is everyone's talking about it have you heard have you heard I know what's going on because you know first of all we enter Austin and we're always like wow i'm glad we moved out here just it feels like you're always driving through Queens in the 1970s for some reason Except for except for the actual Bronx All's missing is them is the trains with all the graffiti on it

05:27 And everyone's, oh have you heard? Have you heard of it? No we haven't heard anything and here is what they were talking about. The City of Austin has unveiled its first ever logo and brand replacing 300 across city services. Leaders say it creates one clear identity but with a 1.1 million dollar price tag the new look is getting mixed reviews I'm gonna go look now. Google machine. And that's the result. Most people think it looks like a tent, which makes sense for the homeless tents in Austin. Yeah! Is this the thing with the purple and green? With Austin underneath? It's like an A but it's like an A with a thing going through it. Like freeways that are intersecting Yes exactly

06:36 It sucks. Yeah, it's not great! What is the point? Well the point is now we have a brand Austin has a brand that can brand everything. The image I'm looking at has the thing next to which says City of Austin and its logo but it's coat-of-arms what's wrong with that well the city has important work to do and this is what they did And of course, you know the running joke is like well they got a guy who couldn't afford Canva Premium. Which does look a bit like that. It looks it looks a bit like Canva Premium. Yeah it does! That was the so there was that news

07:18 And the other big news... What's the point again? So they can have consistent branding. Why is it what, what's the point of that city? Look at this look at the City Council a bunch of nut jobs. It's a Democrat run city and they could and this is this is what they come up with all the problems we have in Austin This is the one where you needed to fix this And it's small compared to their budget, but it's just funny. That was the main topic of conversation and then the concrete cancer! This is another first world problem but apparently a very big one Have you heard of the concrete cancer in Austin? No, but I'm about too So during COVID A lot of people had swimming pools put in I'm talking serious swimming pools

CHAPTER 04 / 45 Discussion

Concrete Cancer, Austin Luxury Swimming Pool Failures

A phenomenon referred to as "concrete cancer" is affecting high-end swimming pools built in Austin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Many wealthy residents allegedly used PPP loans to fund pool installations, only for the structures to leak and split due to defective concrete supplied to contractors.

concrete cancer· swimming pools· covid-19· ppp loans· austin

08:15 During COVID? Yeah, yeah. Because these are all rich people they have mansions and if they didn't end up in relatively small plots of land and so people would just... And also I think everyone remember when the PPP came out that scam Yeah, the personal protectives. No no no the loans! The PPP that's... Oh the PPP loan? The PPP loans everyone upgraded their lake gear and got new jets. They spent the money on pools. Not on their employees they spent the money on their pools and there are people from what I heard from them who put in a $500,000 pool but apparently the main contractors who were doing all this work

09:00 Got bad concrete and now it's splitting and leaking in every single pool. That's a scandal Yes, it's also kind of funny. It's very fun Wow You're dealing with that okay feel bad for you bro feel bad for the whole show is not gonna be about local news Except for the fact that you still owe us the story about Dilbert I'm gonna hold on to that one No, I'm gonna hold on to it. What? Wait a minute! I'm going to hold onto it now we gotta get into some... How can you hold on to it when we've been putting it off and putting it off and keep forgetting it now I bring it up by saying I'm gonna bring it at the beginning of this show and then you stiff me. No, no it's just I'm afraid that you know now it's been such a build-up is gonna be let down are you're going to go... I'm not going to say anything

CHAPTER 05 / 45 Discussion

Neighborhood Disputes, Dilbert the Ex-Fed Anecdote

A personal anecdote describes ongoing tensions in a rural Texas neighborhood involving a family running a commercial business from their home and aggressive roaming dogs. The story features a neighbor named Dilbert, a retired federal agent, who threatened to shoot a neighbor's dog if it continued to harass his own. The hosts also discuss the lack of an active HOA and local "dark skies" ordinances.

neighborhood· hoa· fbi· dilbert· dogs· fredericksburg

09:51 Well, it's not that funny. I'm out of context. There goes the sigh so that says something. It is out of context! Oh good lord... Out of context is just...I'll get to it later, I promise and put on the list. No you won't. Yes, I got it on the list We've said a number of times we're going to get to it and then I put in under post-it note there you go again Alright alright So we have the neighbors up the street they're the Thokkies They moved in They're running a commercial construction business out of their house with all kinds of trucks parked there. It's been going on for 18 months... And everybody is upset about it in the neighborhood? On that side! See, we're on the cool quiet side. There's nothing going on here. Now to get an image or vision of this, there is a road that goes up to a T and on the left is your side No no no well no there's an entrance way to THE ROAD that were all on

10:45 Yeah, which is I would call a T. Okay and then you it's alright then and that goes up to the mailboxes which the kids crashed into once remember that? I was telling about how like on a Friday or Saturday night they were driving up and down in an ATV gasoline-powered with one light and 10 teenagers on it joyriding around Yeah, they're gonna kill themselves. Well apparently they crashed in the mailboxes the whole structure came down and then you know the guy's like I'll fix it and it's still down You know It's like when a construction guy should have fixed it instantly He should have had his kids come around and apologized all the neighbors here by the scruff of the neck We're sorry no none of that so but this has been going on for a long time up there on that side of the street

11:34 And you know, shooting off fireworks and all the firework papers get into the neighbor's yard in their pool and they're all upset. They have these dogs...and they just let them roam around! It's one thing after another with this family. These dogs are kind of aggressive. There is a family with kids who live right next door. You guys have got guns? And his wife, they're retired feds. Now who's Dilbert? Okay, Dilbert lives on the street here... And this is by the way I believe this to be a tall tale No no this involves somebody named Dilbert When I first met him because he mows out of the goodness of his heart He mows The grass to the side of the entire street so that you know snakes don't start to live in there and stuff

12:19 And so I go out there one day and say, hey man how you doing? He said let me pitch in for some gas. And he introduced himself, he's Dilbert. Anyway and he's retired. Yes it was hard to suppress the laugh but that's his name! There are people named Dilbert... One of these days they'll say hey man how does that feel okay i'll do that but after this story you might understand why I don't So he's an ex-fed, I think he's ex FBI And I'm not sure, his wife was also a federal agent but of something else. I don't remember nice people and so he's telling me the other he'd still let me you know that dog came out running after my dog and i went right up to the lady I'm not going to use her name and she started screaming at me in yelling about this and he says next time your dog comes runner my dogs gonna shoot it into face! That was the story

13:18 I told you he'd be disappointed. That was it? I told you, you'll be disappointed! It's better if it's in context of something about the neighborhood. Well that was in context with about the neighborhood about the dogs and the whole thing... So the guy is packing Yes so imagine me I'm not gonna make fun of his name Well, he's not gonna shoot you. I don't know he's ready and ready to shoot a dog in the face well I From the sounds of it those dogs should be shot We have secret meetings going on now yes that's right That's the other thing that yeah, I forgot to you're now having secret meetings against the neighbor I find this fascinating It's called an HOA

14:01 There's no such thing. You don't have an HOA, you're just creating one out of the blue? No we actually do but it went defunct but everyone had to sign like the covenant letter It was like one of those things that yeah whatever no chickens But there's all kinds of stuff in there. You can't have chickens? No, no... You live in the middle of- you're not even in Fredericksburg! You're in the county! Yeah but we- You're in county land! You're out in the middle of nowhere There's no police jurisdiction There's nothing going on and you can't have chickens?! It's a subdivision it's a very quiet subdivision until those people moved in. It was very quiet

14:40 It was nice. Yeah, I guess it would be if no chickens! And then we got the other neighbors they're from Dallas and they took this house and expanded it by three times the size... ...and they've got these huge gate they put up with huge lamps on the front. We have a dark skies city ordinance That's, I mean it's typical. It's typical rural...I wish I'd won that Powerball and be out of here Come on Tina let's go Let's buy the ranch Get out of here Ah it's okay Powerball! Everyone is in it Who won? Who won that powerball? And someone got at the gas station At Biggs 103 Gas Station Wow Which like no one goes to Biggs We don't go to Biggs Someone did And they got the Powerball

CHAPTER 06 / 45 Discussion

Kilmar Obrego Garcia, Eswatini Deportation Case

ICE is reportedly attempting to deport Kilmar Obrego Garcia, a Maryland resident, to the nation of Eswatini after his lawyers claimed he feared persecution in 22 other countries, including Uganda. DHS officials expressed skepticism regarding the broad claims of fear across the entire Western Hemisphere. The hosts mock the legal maneuvering and the obscure choice of the destination country.

kilmar obrego garcia· ice· eswatini· uganda· deportation· dhs

15:31 Well, let's start over some clips. I've got one clip that is just a standalone clip that I thought was the best clip that i'm going to have. Is it better than my Dilbert story? I think its on par. This just came out and I don't see any news coverage of it. They had a lot of coverage, but it's the latest with Obrego Garcia. It's at the bottom is called The Wow Clip. ICE might be giving criminal illegal immigrant Kilmar Obrego Garcia a new home in a country called Eswatini that tiny nation sits mostly inside South Africa

16:14 Now the Trump administration settled on that country after Obrego Garcia's lawyers claimed their client feared persecution and torture in 22 other countries. Christina Coleman is live with the latest on this, Christina? Hi, Guy. Yeah initially the so-called Maryland dad, Abrego Garcia was going to be deported to Uganda from the U.S., but his lawyers also listed Uganda as a persecution or torture risk for him now this adds to their long list of a bunch of other countries they've expressed concern over take a look at them these are all of them there's a lot of countries they're worried about in response A principal legal advisor from ICE and DHS said in a letter to Garcia, quote, that claim of fear is hard to take seriously especially given that you have claimed through your attorneys that you fear persecution or torture in at least 22 different countries. DHS also responded to this. You see it right there writing quote homey is afraid of the entire Western hemisphere so now a Braco's new country of removal as Eswatani

17:11 Man, that place is going to be a tourist destination now. Who had ever heard of it? I'd never heard of it and I've been to South Africa Isn't that where Eddie Murphy came from in coming to America? Maybe! It's like a little enclave country or something...it's like a city-state or something. It's like Fredericksburg in Texas It's unbelievable. They dug it up because this guy didn't want to go to Uganda because the Ugandans are going to want to torture him? They don't have that reputation! No, and they also made the comment by the way they didn't want to send him to a country that he didn't speak the language of course which is... And and the joke of it is that one of the official languages of the official language of Uganda is there's two of them

CHAPTER 07 / 45 Discussion

Department of War Rebranding, William Lutz Doublespeak

The discussion explores the rebranding of the Department of Defense back to the "Department of War" as a move to frame immigration issues as a national security invasion. This leads to a deeper look at the work of William Lutz and the concept of "doublespeak," where language is used to distort reality, citing the original 1947 name change as a prime example.

department of war· department of defense· william lutz· doublespeak· newspeak· djt stock

17:57 Swahili and English. Yes, yes and English with an English accent so This is ridiculous Well the president is doing a lot of marketing right now And it kind of hit me when I'm with this least most recent truth Is true? It's good. It's kind of amazing how he started that network which is probably worse worth negative five dollars in But somehow the company is... I haven't looked at it. What is the DJT stock at these days? Have you looked up that? It's higher than you'd think Oh no, it doesn't surprise me at all! Um but this obvious that You know what social network is... What is X really worth? Do you ever get ads on X? I've never seen an ad on X Yeah they're very well hidden No, I don't see them I mean wouldn't know their ads are really well done

18:58 Yeah, usually in the form of TikTok videos. You keep following for it? No no no there's real ads and they're really well done But he's marketing, and I think he's marketing because of this issue with the courts saying—and you know, he wants it to go to the Supreme Court as soon as possible—saying that there is no emergency. Therefore deporting people under this Emergency Authorization Act... What exactly is that again? I don't know. It's not the emergency authorization, it was like... But it's basically we're being invaded and that is why this all fits together. An ominous warning from the US president echoing the film Apocalypse Now after he rebranded the Department of Defense as the Department Of War. I love the smell of deportations in the morning.

19:54 So, he had little helicopters. I think this whole Department of War rebranding is... and you know he's saying that it's a war and Chicago is at war. I think he's trying to play this off or that'll be the defense as we've been invaded It fits together somehow. It's not just a- Well, you might be onto something as possible. The war thing though is like people making a fuss about this it was always called the Department of War until after World War II and what's funny is that one of our producers sent me a link to this guy Lutz who was he's a writer and he was an expert on doublespeak And there's a book you can see on Amazon very famous called Doublespeak

20:43 And which is, you know taken from 1984 the idea of creating things that aren't what they sound like. And we've seen that a million times in this country with the naming of bills and legislation where it says one thing... Yes! Patriot Act let's just start there. ...and is just the opposite, you know? Yeah. Department of War right after World War II to the Department of Defense was not only a form of doublespeak but won an award for it. Oh, like the Austin logo! Yeah, well yeah. So the Department of Defense is a form of doublespeak that should be abolished Is it doublespeak or newspeak? I think he calls it doublespeak It might be newspeak Let me look...I don't want to be wrong No because then you will get emails I will get an email- no YOU'll get emails I'll get your emails John blocked me!

21:46 Did you look it up? Yeah, I'm looking it up. No, he calls it doublespeak. And the guy's name is... I have it here since I looked it up and I think it was called doublespeak. Newsspeak, I think, is something else. Well newsspeak is what they called in 1984. Okay well doublespeak is William Lutz and he ran a... In fact he ran the doublespeak conference that met four times a year. They had a magazine and they gave awards out for the best person who did doublespeak And his thesis is that it should be resisted. Because it's a form of dishonesty and so the Department of Defense is a form of dishonesty Yes, well you mean like reproductive health care? Yeah exactly

CHAPTER 08 / 45 Discussion

Chicago Immigration Raids, Mexican Independence Day Fears

Reports suggest that federal immigration raids in Chicago may coincide with upcoming Mexican Independence Day festivals. Local residents in the Democratic stronghold are reportedly carrying passports in anticipation of National Guard deployments and authoritarian displays of force by the administration.

chicago· immigration raids· national guard· mexican independence day· brandon johnson

22:40 All of these, these terms. Well let's listen to the rest of this maybe we'll pick something up after he rebranded the Department of Defense as The Department Of War I love the smell of deportations in the morning Chicago about to find out why it's called The Department Of War Immigration and Customs Enforcement has not confirmed whether it has sent more agents to Chicago Governor of Illinois has said that he believes immigration raids would coincide with Mexican Independence Day festivals organized for this weekend and next. Some Mexican festivals in the Chicago area have been called off amid fears of raids. Trump's threats have also prompted many Latino residents to carry their US passports. Residents of the Democratic stronghold took to the streets in wake of

23:28 Chicago's residents also bracing for the potential arrival of National Guard troops after the US president announced he decided on another city he plans to send them, without specifying where. Trump's troop and federal agent deployments which started in June in Los Angeles followed by Washington after Trump declared what he called a crime emergency are viewed by critics as an authoritarian display of force Earlier this week A federal judge ruled that his administration illegally deployed National Guard troops in Los Angeles

CHAPTER 09 / 45 Discussion

Chicago River Vehicle Discovery, Chaos Divers Haul

An independent dive team known as Chaos Divers discovered 97 submerged vehicles in the Chicago River while searching for a single missing car. Using sonar technology, the team located piles of mangled cars near the Richard J. Daley boat launch, potentially providing leads for various cold cases and insurance fraud investigations.

chicago river· chaos divers· sonar· missing persons· cold cases

24:12 amid demonstrations against immigration raids. I'm telling you, you'll see this whole Department of War is about because it's National Guard troops is going to be under attack and then they were under attack during invasion. Invasion? Yes well a form of attack and by the way Chicago this was just a little ditty I picked up crime in Chicago they went looking for one car some elderly couple or not even elderly but they've been drinking and they were lost. And I'm like well let's go see if we can find them in the water." Well, they came to Chicago looking for one car but found 97! Now that dive team is checking license plates and VIN numbers to find out if their haul could lead to any answers

25:06 This mangled Nissan is just one of nearly a hundred cars the chaos divers discovered in the Chicago River. It's not uncommon for us to find vehicles, heck that's what we do! When they started their search at the Richard J Daly boat launch near 31st and Western last week they didn't find just one or two vehicles but they kept combing the water ultimately logging dozens A lot of these are in piles. We have three piles ranging anywhere from 12 to 19 cars in one spot." The independent dive team uses sonar technology to solve missing persons and cold cases, their goal? To bring closure to families. We are a little bit more interested in those cars that's kind of the one-off where it's just one vehicle by itself because that's gonna be more indicative of an accident or even self harm or foul play

25:58 Yeah, it's 97. Oh who knew? It was like I thought the Amsterdam canals were bad when they dredge up bikes but 97 vehicles they didn't know about? I find that peculiar that they were down there that long and all of a sudden stumbled onto them. That is very strange. Well they were looking... Yes well dude what about these South Koreans what a story that is! Excellent story. Yeah, I have a two-parter One with like the headline and then some details which i think are interesting first dramatic scene in the united states and mass migration rate You always get somehow? I'm always getting better clips from from the from the european news outlets I don't know why that is but they just have more detail and they still hate trump and

CHAPTER 10 / 45 Discussion

Georgia Hyundai Plant Raid, South Korean Workers

Federal agents executed a massive search warrant at a Hyundai battery facility in Georgia, detaining nearly 500 South Korean nationals for illegal work. The raid occurred despite South Korea's recent pledge to invest $350 billion in the United States. The hosts note a lack of public protest compared to raids involving other demographic groups.

hyundai· georgia· ice· south korea· immigration raid· trade deal

26:51 you know, disdain us. But it's more detail. State of Georgia hundreds of federal agents many masked and armed told workers at a car plant owned by South Korean manufacturer Hyundai these evil men they're masked and armed to line up nearly 500 people were detained ICE and Homeland Security were accompanied by the Georgia state patrol the FBI that DEA that ATF and other agencies executing a search warrant. I love that, executing! A search warrant. They're so dramatic the way they read this. FN and other agencies in executing a search warrant is one of the latest raids, and the largest yet by the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration reaction from Seoul South Korea's foreign ministry expressed concern and regret officials to fly to Washington for trying resolve issues

27:45 And this comes after July when South Korea pledged to invest $350 billion in America, including 26 billion by Hyundai alone as part of a trade deal reached with the Trump administration. Before I get into these details clip some observations one isn't this kind of an Asian thing and i'm not trying to generalize but i'll do it like yeah we're going to invest... It's almost like China! We're gonna invest your country then bring all our own people and they're gonna run it I don't think that's... Well, actually. I was going to defend the Asian people and then I started thinking about it because there used to be the Chinese are notorious for doing this in Africa is proof of that but and i was gonna defend its thing with just the Chinese they were generalizing from but in fact on now I think about they used to be thing called death buses

28:38 And this is when a Japanese company bought an American company and they would have the run it with American bosses. Because I knew a guy that was fired during the situation, they fire all of the upper management and bring in what are called the death buses which were buses loaded with Japanese executives who take over the company So this is you might be right. You've generalized, but I think you nailed it. Well also these are contractors these companies that they get a contract like bring me bring me a whole bunch of people to run this battery factory and they go on farm them and then get I guess I mean just get him in from the

29:19 from the White House, they were illegal aliens and ICE was just doing its job. This is what President Trump said. People on short-term or recreational visas are not authorized to work in the U.S., I said." And of course this was necessary to protect American jobs so clearly...and there's a lot of this, it's so much of this going on especially in New York in the service sector but the other thing I noted is where's the protests? Where's people protesting ICE in this? I haven't seen a single protest. Is that because they're Asian? It could be the function of the state they're in Georgia, is it because they are Asian? Maybe its because their asian if you're trying to make the claim that these protesters are buncha racist pricks but it's also possible that Georgia doesn't have a bunch of groups and enough oomph

30:19 to feel the protest. But all of these protests are organized And they're brought in from out of town. But it's not, my point is it's not about kicking people out who are hard working or hard workers. It's only about Mexicans or brown people, not the yellow people. Yellow people don't count for these protesters. That's my point right here that you can say that if you want to take that generality, you can also point to Harvard who have basically kept our Asian students Yeah, they're happy they're going. So you are saying that the protesters and the left in general hate Asians? They are racist! Here's some details... As US Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted their largest ever raid on a single site I mean this was the largest raid ever so bigger than anything no protests Some tried to flee.

CHAPTER 11 / 45 Discussion

Hyundai Factory Conditions, Sewage Pond Escape Attempt

During the immigration raid at the Georgia Hyundai plant, some workers reportedly attempted to evade capture by jumping into a factory sewage pond. Subsequent reporting suggests the workers may have been subjected to slave-like conditions, with some reports claiming doors were padlocked during shifts. The South Korean government has expressed regret over the incident while Hyundai vowing to investigate its subcontractors.

hyundai· georgia· sewage pond· labor conditions· south korea· ice

31:12 And were fished out of the factory. This is funny, so they jumped into the water to escape. But raid on a single site and some tried to flee. And we're fished out of the factories sewage pond. So bad you gotta be hard They think they're going to go swim into the sewers and maybe come up in somebody's toilet? What were they thinking? I don't know. They're standing there with their phones, you know calling home base or whatever. Hyundai's massive car battery facility in Georgia after US authorities arrested 475 people there most of whom South Korean nationals accusing them of illegal work

31:52 Officials said it was the culmination of a months-long investigation. This was not an immigration operation where agents went into the premises, rounded up folks and put them on buses. Agents did though go into the premises roundup people and put them on buses This was the best part of this report. Most were taken to an immigration detention center near Florida One man who used to work at the site spoke about the fear caused by such operations You know nobody in America should ever be treated like that or have to work in these kind of conditions It's cool now That's interesting because they throw this sound bite in and they're making it sound like the guy is saying This is you know no one should ever be treated like this

32:39 But what he's really saying, as far as I can tell is they were slave workers. If you listen carefully, he's saying no one should be treated like this. Like slaves! Well it is possible that what he is talking about... This is an out of context clip What he is actually talking about is Hyundai Yeah precisely That they were running a slave ship But it makes it sound like they are talking about the ice agents The ice agents? No It's about- You have to put- That's very interesting juxtaposition of dropping in a clip that is misleading or maybe it was not, maybe...

33:18 If I'm the editor and i say no we put it in for the reason you just said which is that no one should be working under these circumstances, in the plant. We're not talking about the ICE agents Right but the lead-in there's a little misleading The lead-in is what makes them... You have to play from the lead-in back to that clip, we have to hear this again Rounded up folks and put them on buses Agents did though go into the premises round up people and put them on buses Most were taken to an immigration detention center near Florida. One man who used to work at the site spoke about the fear caused by such operations. You know, nobody in America should ever be treated like that or have to work in these kind of conditions. It's called... See they make it sound like he spoke about the raid but he didn't Yeah

34:04 He's like, no nobody should have to work in these conditions. I think yes this is a misuse of the clip. This is an intentional misuse and misdirection of a clip that was talking about something else completely different Hey did you get anything of anyone talking about how horrible that raid was? No but I got this ah jam it in You know nobody in America should ever be treated like that have to work in these kind of conditions. It's caused uproar in South Korea at a summit last month the country pledged 150 billion dollars in US investments including 26 billion from Hyundai Motor indeed Georgian officials had built the mega site as the biggest single investment in the state's history

34:44 The economic activities of our companies investing in the United States and the interests of our citizens must not be unduly violated during the course of US law enforcement. Hyundai Motor says it will investigate the employment practices of its suppliers and subcontractors and bring the site under its full control. Yeah, okay so they're taking a little responsibility I guess yeah well they actually the government apologize I do have to PBS for our things the PBS we actually we have think we have Korean news report The illegal Koreans at Factory, PBS. This is a very short report doesn't have anything about standing in the sewer or the sewage or any of the good stuff that your report has you're absolutely correct this is lame this is a lame report. The South Korean government is expressing concern and regret over this week's immigration raid at a Georgia Hyundai plant that swept up South Korean nationals

35:46 Today, ICE released new video of the operation. It shows agents descending on the site of an electric vehicle battery plant Nearly 500 workers were lined up searched and detained most of them South Koreans The lead agent for Homeland Security Investigations in Georgia claims the detained workers either entered the country illegally, had expired visas or entered on visas that prohibited them from working. I got a... here's from the troll room from Goat so that it comes with authority He says, I knew a guy who worked for Hyundai in Alabama and they put padlocks on all their doors until they decided to shift was over Yeah! That sounds about right

36:28 We don't like slavery in America. Only in New York City when, you know... we want you to... we want you illegals to clean our house but that's about it That's terrible Of course is terrible Do you get a fire or something and can't get out? Oh god forbid Anyway It's always rough You know when the president promised something and now he's doing it Americans don't like seeing anyone rousted for anything But come on Korea and all the M5M, it's like oh South Korea. They're so great very democratic country Yes, yes you've been there recently they had nothing but fistfights in their legislature Exactly so democratic Although we could use some of that here that would be kind of fun to see a little bit That would be nice Let's see further fallout from RFK jr

CHAPTER 12 / 45 Discussion

RFK Jr. Media Strategy, Pharmaceutical Advertising Concerns

The hosts discuss a perceived media blackout and coordinated attack against Robert F. Kennedy Jr. by major networks like ABC. They suggest that pharmaceutical companies, which are major television advertisers, are pressuring media executives to marginalize Kennedy due to his promises to reform vaccine policy and food safety.

rfk jr· pharmaceutical industry· abc news· advertising· television· podcasts

37:32 And when I say fallout, as predicted. I think the only thing i've heard anyone talk about it is... Did you see Elizabeth Warren? So I'm glad we played some other clips on the previous episode But I almost can see this meeting taking place with the fine folks at ABC Good Morning America where You know, we must have a producer somewhere who works in advertising or sales or advertising sales television sales. Someone must be aware of these meetings or must... maybe you work at the reception desk. You must see these advertising executives come in for the meeting I mean it's...I can't do you think it's just phone calls or Zoom?

38:19 And they come in and say, hey we've got a real problem. Nowadays I'm not sure. We've got a real problem here with RFK Jr., and he's going to cut us out of advertising? Well there was supposedly...I only saw this in written word. There was supposedly a memo that went out amongst a bunch of executive, media executives and legislative types that basically said they have to get rid of this guy. And it has to be the pharmaceutical companies worried sick because the promises he's made which he has not executed

38:59 has got to have them shaking in their boots and they think now's the time, the one time they're able to get rid of him before he puts these in place. He has got to pull the plug on TV advertising immediately! Yeah well already The Big Pharma is advertising on podcasts I hear it everywhere now which... It's fair game I guess? I saw an ad for the COVID vaccine that was yeah how it that for the tick- it was a TikToker I'm a TikToker, but i got the COVID vaccine because I did a lot of research and it turns out that is the most important thing you can do is get a booster. Yeah! And they were just somebody yakking away... Because you won't have to go to the hospital? You won't get as sick? You will not get as sick, you'll just get sick and it's just like it was obvious somebody paid them money but

39:50 And it's hard to identify some of these. They are spotting, there is a bunch of these... But I'm hearing actual like pre-roll ads you know real dynamically inserted ads. That's not as insidious No they're just throwing in ads just actual ads Well anyway so good morning America Stephanopoulos and the gang over there and Michael Strahan They bring in their resident doctor Dr Tara Nerula Well, let me see. I've never actually...I don't know what her credentials are. Tara... She's been on quite a few times Now and she is good looking. She is a good looking doctor but big mistake she did not wear her uniform. She didn't have a lab coat on Didn't have a stethoscope wrapped around her neck You need a lab coat and a stethoscope? Yeah! That's why if I was in executive I would say okay I want Dr. Tara in there I want her with the labcoat I want a stethoscope She can have her little hospital

40:46 branding on it, maybe just do the Austin logo. That'd be cool and but we need her to hit tag nice yes name tag and a slosh card We need her too. We needed to hit all the points now. We need to remind everybody just how horrible it was during kovat and that Just we've got to trigger those memories We've got to trigger everybody to get all upset again, obviously. To revolt against this horrible Kennedy whose whole family has now come out against him as well and you probably haven't seen any... I love the Kennedy videos we don't have any yet because they all talk like that my cousin is he kills children

CHAPTER 13 / 45 Discussion

Dr. Tara Narula, ABC News Vaccine Segment

Dr. Tara Narula appeared on Good Morning America to emphasize the importance of childhood vaccinations, citing the historical dangers of polio and measles. The hosts critique the segment as a psychological operation designed to trigger COVID-era fears. They specifically highlight Narula's admission that vaccinated individuals can still get sick as a failure of the "safe and effective" narrative.

tara narula· abc news· vaccines· polio· measles· covid-19

41:29 So they can't get that yet, but here's Dr. Tara. Chief medical correspondent Dr. Taran Arula and chief medical correspondent. Doctor, let's start with the science right here why is it important for kids to get vaccinated what happens if they're not? George it feels like right now it is a chaotic situation I like we are on board there was no captain steering this ship. You gotta listen, you're gonna miss... I'm sorry. Every second is good now we'll stop it but every second is good and like we are unmoored there was no captain steering the ship and I know there's a lot of misinformation and mistrust well one thing that should not be under fire is vaccination and the public health It's the only thing under fire

42:10 It's the only thing because of the mRNA gambit, but okay. Fire is vaccination and the public health story success that vaccination has been in this country We know that it has saved millions of lives we know that it prevents disability from diseases so we forget but polio... We know that it prevents disability from diseases I guess that's a polio vaccine that she's talking about? I guess, I have no idea what she's talking about. For one thing the only thing under attack is MRNA technology. That's all technology it's not even a vaccine and that's what's under attack and that's what they're trying to protect nobody's bitching and moaning i mean they complained a little bit about the mumps vaccine or who cares but this he that's new that's not what's under attack let's just be honest about it

43:00 We know that it prevents disability from diseases, so we forget but polio can cause paralysis. Measles can lead to brain inflammation so if you get sick it can end up resulting in complications I don't think Kennedy has at any point... In fact quite the opposite! I think he said yeah MMR you know if you want to get that that's okay Poli I don't think he's had any... He said anything about that? Has he? that I know of? No. We have vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis... What?! We got vaccines for cancer! I must have missed the memo. ...complications we have vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis... No, HPV is a cancer that's what they're talking about

43:39 Yeah, okay. Another big success. Vaccines for cancer HPV and hepatitis we need vaccinations to protect the vulnerable the ill the immunocompromised children right so it is so important that we not forget the powerful impact and I know it's easy as we you know Okay here she goes now The script is It's So Easy To Forget remember remember remember? It's so easy to forget the impact of vaccines come on I'm gonna pull I'm gonna pull you right back into the past five years Right It's so important that we not forget the powerful impact and I know it is easy as we live in a world where we don't see infectious diseases that much but we don't have to look far back at COVID. A couple years ago, and we can see how one virus, one vulnerability... One virus! Can impact us not to mention the economic impact of hospitalizations doctors costs lost wages

44:31 But I think that personalization, remembering the lives that we all saw lost. I remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill Hospital where I worked filled with bodies. That's what I mean. So she was like, you know loss of lost wages the economic impact you know was so horrible we had freezer trucks filled with bodies no they were empty. Personalization remembering the lives that we all saw lost i remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill Hospital where I worked filled with bodies patients saying goodbye on iPads let us not forget the toll that can happen

45:15 the immeasurable loss and suffering when we let our guard down. Disgusting! She is this is a this is a psychological operation and she is Executing it. They have serious impact on public health and given what's happened with some states that push pushing to make vaccines more accessible I mean Florida the accessible over to remove vaccine mandates, so we may just be looking at patchwork Right here Stranahan says About making vaccines more accessible but Florida is removing all mandates has nothing to do with accessibility They're just twisting words. With some states that push and make vaccines more accessible, in Florida they moved to remove vaccine mandates so we may just be looking at patchwork of states with different protocols, different policies. Yeah this is where it's all headed everyone is going to have their own gang That's the right word I think a patch work and its a fractured approach that we really haven't seen right now in this country before

46:14 And unfortunately, we are seeing exactly that. Florida sort of stepping backwards with their mandates. Backwards! The Northwest and the Northeast forming alliances. Alliances? But the reality is Michael vaccines don't know borders they don't know the difference between Texas and Washington. No that's not true We stop the viruses from Washington state right at our Texas border. We don't allow it to come in It's not gonna happen. Even though you're vaccinated, it's not perfect so you can still get sick. So what? It's going to be a tough situation we- What did she just say?! It's not perfect. She blew it by too, she blew it by Yeah! It's not perfect even though you're vaccinated You can still get sick Not a vaccine then They don't know the difference between Texas and Washington And even though your vaccinated its not perfect So you can still get sick so... Ya know? Its gonna be tough situation We may see the rise of groups like The Vaccine Integrity Program That is now coming out of Minnesota Also known as VIP I got a great name for our Vaccine Integrity Program We'll call that V-I-P Sounds important

CHAPTER 14 / 45 Discussion

Vaccine Policy Alliances, West Coast Governors Resistance

Democratic governors from California, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii are forming alliances to create their own vaccine recommendations in response to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s leadership at HHS. Hawaii Governor Josh Green described the federal public health situation as a "cataclysmic disaster" and emphasized the need for "data-based science" to prevent outbreaks in states that might move away from mandates.

josh green· hawaii· gavin newsom· vaccine alliance· rfk jr· cdc

47:17 to going to be ripple effects, Rebecca. We have a signal that private insurance companies for now will continue to cover but the big concern is around Medicare and Medicaid vaccines... Oh old people! ...vaccine fund for children... Now hold on this makes no sense because it is recommended for people on Medicare It's recommended. 65 plus, so that's not true and she said oh no the insurance company says... Yeah if you're 65 when you don't get on Medicare before your 65 they just can't. So you get on Medicare

48:05 And boom, you get the check boxes there and so they pick up the tab. So what are they talking about? They're lying to you! Big concern is around Medicare, Medicaid vaccines, vaccine fund for children those who are getting free vaccines what will happen to their coverage for vaccinations You know you talk about gaps in science but the basic science of that vaccine is pretty clear right are safe, they are effective. They should be used by kids. George the science has not changed The science doesn't change What changes is... The science doesn't change! Listen, the sci- What is she talking about? The science doesn't change Are safe, they are effective They should be used by kids George the science has not changed The science doesn't change What changes is how we interpret it Our policy The science does not change Science never changes people It never changes That's what science is Not changing ever

48:55 That's what I mean. Yeah, tell it to Copernicus. Copernicus? Tell us the story of Copernicus! What was he like? He is an old Polack. What are you going to do? Well, tell us the story of Copernicus. He is inventor of modern astronomy and basically the one who decided there was a solar system Right so you're saying that he changed science Well, yep because for that it was there was no such thing the earth was in the center of the universe And everything spun around the earth because it was you know God's creation and everything else is bull crap It's a lot just dots in this guy. Why do I think that was Galileo? Galileo discovered the Galileo took it to the extreme because he actually proved it

49:40 Ah, he proved the science. Well he had a telescope. Copernicus is just ad-libbing He was just faking it till he made it I am Copernicus fake until I make it Let's take a look at this let's get this straight since we're here Why don't you ask your friend? Yes my girl yes What what does the difference between? Copernicus and Galileo in what they discovered okay arrow What is the difference between Coperni... What is the difference between Copernicus and Galileo? Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo, Galilei were both giants in astronomy. But they played different roles in the shift from Earth-centered to Sun-centered models. Copernicus back in the early 16th century proposed the heliocentric theory sun at the center earth and planets orbiting around it his book practice lead the groundwork but was cautious avoiding direct clashes with the church

50:35 Galileo, a century later took it further by using a telescope to observe Jupiter's moons and Venus' phases. The point was is that the science changed. Yeah, the science changed and this will probably be used against RFK now that he's you know defunded all mRNA research ah all of it oh the Russians are moving ahead! Well Russia is gearing up to treat cancer patients with what could become one of the world's first

51:16 first personalized mRNA cancer vaccines. A treatment tailored to each patient's unique tumor. The announcement marks a key moment in what is shaping up to be a global race, to beat cancer using next-gen technology. According to Russian news outlets Russia's first patients could begin receiving the newly manufactured, newly developed cancer vaccine within the next few months. So they're talking about a vaccine mRNA vaccine but I wish they would just be honest and call it gene therapy Because you already know the cancer. You already have the cancer it's not stopping wonder yeah, you already have the cancer So what kind of a vaccine is it I? Will get right as a therapy out on what they can't do that because of the liability situation and the indemnification so uses call everything in vaccines, so he can't get sued for making crap we're producing us a genuinely bad product

CHAPTER 15 / 45 Discussion

Russian mRNA Cancer Vaccine, Gene Therapy Labeling

Russia is reportedly developing a personalized mRNA cancer vaccine tailored to individual tumors. The hosts argue that such treatments should be classified as gene therapy rather than vaccines, suggesting the "vaccine" label is used primarily to provide pharmaceutical companies with legal indemnification and liability protection.

russia· mrna· cancer vaccine· gene therapy· vladimir putin

50:35 Galileo, a century later took it further by using a telescope to observe Jupiter's moons and Venus' phases. The point was is that the science changed. Yeah, the science changed and this will probably be used against RFK now that he's you know defunded all mRNA research ah all of it oh the Russians are moving ahead! Well Russia is gearing up to treat cancer patients with what could become one of the world's first

51:16 first personalized mRNA cancer vaccines. A treatment tailored to each patient's unique tumor. The announcement marks a key moment in what is shaping up to be a global race, to beat cancer using next-gen technology. According to Russian news outlets Russia's first patients could begin receiving the newly manufactured, newly developed cancer vaccine within the next few months. So they're talking about a vaccine mRNA vaccine but I wish they would just be honest and call it gene therapy Because you already know the cancer. You already have the cancer it's not stopping wonder yeah, you already have the cancer So what kind of a vaccine is it I? Will get right as a therapy out on what they can't do that because of the liability situation and the indemnification so uses call everything in vaccines, so he can't get sued for making crap we're producing us a genuinely bad product

52:13 I'm surprised by this because the Russians are the ones who eschewed, to use that word. Yes, yes, eschewed is a good word. But we know what eschewed means. The mRNAs to begin with! Yeah Yeah, but this is maybe a troll from Russia. Who knows? I think it's a troll. The whole story is a troll But of course ultimately this whole COVID thing is really about... well actually two things One is they don't want mRNA to be outed as gene therapy They want to continue to call it a vaccine so they co-mingle with all kinds of other vaccines stories and nonsense

CHAPTER 16 / 45 Discussion

Virginia COVID Vaccine Restrictions, Prescription Requirements

New FDA regulations and state-level guidelines in Virginia are making it more difficult for residents to obtain COVID-19 vaccines at local pharmacies. Some locations now require a doctor's prescription for the shot, creating hurdles for those under 65 who previously had easy walk-in access.

virginia· covid-19 vaccine· fda· pharmacy· prescription· telemedicine

52:49 And it's really when they talk about accessibility, this is probably... I don't know. Can you get the MMR vaccine from the pharmacy? Do you know?" That that's the problem because the pharmacies want to be able to give you the shudges for what was a walk-in." Yes and that's the problem this is report from Virginia. It used to be able to easily walk to your local pharmacy and get a COVID vaccine but with new FDA regulations not be as simple in the future. Patients who are normally able to just may walk over to their local pharmacy to get these vaccines now have to call the doctor's office Dr Marcia Newby Goodman from primary care specialist says new COVID vaccine regulations could create more hurdles for anyone looking to get the vaccine I'm looking for the vaccines! So it was a lot of work on both the patients, pharmacies People on the street hey hey brother

53:45 Hey brother, are you holding? Did he shoot me up? Can you shoot me up brother. A lot of work on both the patients pharmacies and doctor offices The next round of COVID vaccines was approved by the FDA on Wednesday but limited availability to people 65 and older or anyone with a high risk for the sickness Now Virginia is one of several states requiring a prescription for the vaccine at local pharmacies They're putting in a lot of layers um...to prevent people from getting the vaccine A lot of layers. It's one layer, you gotta get a prescription that's not a lot of layers. According to the CDC so far during 2020... Get there!

54:22 There's a lot of layers. You got to get it first, you gotta make the appointment to get the prescription and then you gotta get the prescription they got to pick up the prescription then he got to find your way to the pharmacy and tell them there is a prescription that you have sent in or you have to bring the prescription if you have it by hand That's a lot of layers Hold on can I get a prescription for the COVID vaccine through telemedicine? Let's see That would be the answer. Doesn't say per se... But you asked your girl! Nah, I'm tired of my girl. Now generally you cannot get a prescription for COVID vaccine through telemedicine? Not yet!!

55:05 According to the CDC, so far during 2024-2025 more than 1.3 million Virginians received a COVID vaccine in the state nearly 800 000 of those people under the age of 65 that's why Dr Anna Peoples from Peoples Pharmacy says new restrictions could be put problematic. Those of us from receiving the covid makes it more difficult. does administer the covi other pharmacies in Virgin shot, you'll need a presc doctor even with these newe and dr newbie Goodman say guidelines it's still pos

CHAPTER 17 / 45 Discussion

Personal Vaccine Experiences, PBS NewsHour Coverage

The hosts discuss personal anecdotes of family members who have received multiple boosters yet continue to contract COVID-19. They criticize the mainstream media, specifically PBS NewsHour, for ignoring stories about vaccine side effects while simultaneously promoting CDC vaccination tips on their website.

boosters· ivermectin· pbs newshour· cdc· vaccine efficacy

55:54 Yeah, and I just feel so we should write down the names of all of these ghouls because if your information diet if your news diet is what it is for a lot of people in America then you're just getting psyoped every single day. We have family members. Really? We have family members now listen we have family members who who've had five boosters and now have COVID again. Safe and effective, they have COVID again! But it's not funny anymore because you know... Well not to you. No because I love them, I love my family members And then you say hey maybe you should stop with these boosters for your immune system? No no no no. By the way every single time i get COVID I'm definitely not as sick as I would have been

56:46 This is the answer. That's a classic, but it's actually no that's not... It's super sad because and they're hearing this from their doctor, their doc you know and it hurts my heart when I hear this like oh and you can send them ivermectin and they'll roll their eyes at you. Oh they think your nuts. That's toxic! They already think yeah its horse dewormer But it's just, it's incredibly sad that this is... Well I don't know how you can say this isn't an op because I watched the entire PBS news hour on yesterday and Saturday. And they didn't have one story about the Vax although I will say they ended the show with this Vax PBS straight plug!

57:38 Oh boy, they went straight for it. Now online with the CDC and turmoil in fall approaching we give you helpful tips on where and how to get COVID vaccinations all that and more is on our website pbs.org slash news hour Wow! And then they close this show That's amazing to me Because they didn't have any stories on it, so they decided to put it in anyway. Why didn't they have any stories on it? It was the news story of the week! No, they were talking about Kennedy... get rid of Kennedy. Oh okay well that's a Vaxxed Story That's it Yeah but it wasn't the same as telling people to get their booster Well let's do some PBS Kennedy stuff You haven't got... I've got some PBS... No you do not! You have KemedyPBS

CHAPTER 18 / 45 Discussion

Governor Josh Green, Public Health Dismantling Claims

Hawaii Governor Josh Green, a physician, continues his critique of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., claiming his leadership is dismantling public health in America. Green advocates for a "thoughtful" approach to science and warns that states like Florida are "going rogue" by moving away from traditional vaccine mandates, which he predicts will lead to preventable outbreaks.

josh green· hawaii· rfk jr· public health· measles· mandates

58:25 I don't know what that is. You know what you're, you know what I've got here? This is the attack of just about the CDC and Kennedy and this is more about Kennedy's you know, battle with the CDC. Let's listen to these turmoil at the CDC. The debate over the federal government's vaccine policy remains as contentious as ever. Health secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr.'s combative appearance on Capitol Hill this week did little to clear up the issue. He was pressed by senators of both parties including two Republicans who are physicians Now, some states are taking matters into their own hands. They're forming alliances to review scientific data and make their own vaccine recommendations. This is the term alliance, alliances this is what everyone's using we're performing an alliance a front

59:16 We are the resistance. Le Resistance, le Partisans, yes Alliance. The Resistance. The Democratic governors of California Oregon and Washington were the first act they were joined the next day by Hawaii earlier I spoke with Hawaii governor Josh Green a Democrat who's a physician Because everything went so well with COVID in Hawaii. We are in a great time of crisis as far as public health goes right now, the HHS administration led by Mr Kennedy is in disarray and it's causing a lot of concern across the country. We need to have good science we need database science. We need evidence. We need database science! This is good this is a new term It's evidence-based science but now its data based. No, no, database science. He said it with a D

1:00:04 Databased. He said what? You didn't say database, you said databased! Database? Yeah, database with a D at the end. Databased science. Data-based! Oh, data-based! Yeah listen... ...is in disarray and it's causing a lot of concern across the country we need to have good science we need data based science oh database okay I thought he was talking about a database and you needed to be into database We need evidence based science so my good friends the three governors from the west coast formed this alliance I had a lot of experience as a physician and the person who dealt with COVID in Hawaii as lieutenant governor, so it just made a lot of sense. But we're going to try to guide the country in a positive way just non-politically but in a way that helps us protect lives. They want data based science isn't that the evidence that is being shown? We have data! You have to ignore the fake evidence

1:01:05 and use the evidence that says what you want it to say. Well, there it is! This guy gets better How are we going to develop the recommendations? Who's gonna do that? This will be from scientific experts Our expectation is we will use a lot of people who have been around for several years doing the job under Republicans and Democrats in different administrations Bring back Fauci People who are trained pediatricians Oh... And infectious disease experts It's very likely some of the people that have recently been pushed out of the CDC or the special committees, they may very well want to come aboard. We also have directors of health in our own states that are thoughtful public health leaders all these people will contribute...

1:01:52 We are thoughtful public health leaders if you want to talk about credentials. I mean, what is a thoughtful? You have to be thoughtful! I'm thoughtful. I am a thoughtful public health leader. Our thoughtful public health leaders all these people will contribute plus we'll do what you should do which is rely on things like the National Pediatric Association Internal medicine associations and all of these individuals that have given us the right guidance to keep disease at a minimum, to prevent outbreaks like measles and mumps and polio. Because I tell you it's very disconcerting right now to see what is happening not only are they dismantling what will be good advice but they're kind of giving license to other states to go rogue and that is what we are seeing in Florida

1:02:39 pretty much move straight away from science and they're going to allow people to do whatever they want, which is going to cause outbreaks when people don't get vaccinated. Okay first of all I love the car honk that's a good new sound effect second of all what happened to the measles outbreak? Did it just die off how come we're not all suffering from measles what happened to the outbreak Remember the outbreak? It died off. That's just what happens, you get the measles and then you get over it Yes yeah and one unfortunate child died Yeah which could have been from anything other than measles Probably some comorbidities I'd be remiss if i didn't say that none of this would be necessary If RFK Jr would just step down

1:03:21 Step down and allow someone with a scientific background to run that department because right now you are seeing the great dismantling of public health in America, and we'll do our part to build it up. I think this is another one... The great dismantling of public health in America because its worked so great Everything's peachy keen. It's just fine We'll do our part to build it up But if this could be a bumpy couple years and we're hopeful that this will give people an opportunity To see what the right science recommendations are I know you were lieutenant governor when the pandemic began you became governor in 2022 Hawaii had one of the highest vaccination rates and one of the lowest

CHAPTER 19 / 45 Discussion

Hawaii COVID-19 Mortality Rates, Ethnic Disparities

While Governor Josh Green touts Hawaii's low COVID-19 mortality rates, the hosts point to data showing that Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders experienced some of the highest death rates in the country. The discussion questions the accuracy of the governor's "analytical" success story and the impact of strict island lockdowns.

hawaii· mortality rates· native hawaiians· pacific islanders· covid-19

1:04:06 mortality rates during that time. Are there lessons that can be learned from that for other states or for the federal government? Is that true? I couldn't find out. I looked and looked and looked, i tried to get this because I wanted to have a slam dunk like kind of refutation but I couldn't find anything so I don't know if it was true or not It doesn't mean that the vaccine didn't kill a lot of people they're just talking about what was happening But then again they didn't block their beaches like they did in California People were out and about But you couldn't even fly, you couldn't even fly to Hawaii. Remember they locked everybody out? Yeah they had... it was screwy I we have to..I'm not convinced that what he says is accurate. Well according to and what is this from this is from Global Health

1:04:56 While Hawaii generally managed COVID-19 deaths effectively, means they killed people really quickly compared to other states. It's important to note that native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders experienced some of the highest COVID-19 death rates amongst racial ethnic groups in United States." Hmm... They killed the Hawaiians themselves? Absolutely! The thing is Hawaii has a population at 1.4 million total something like that it's very small kind yeah state, I mean compared to California which is 40 million. It's ridiculous. Absolutely what we did was we just expressed in a fair way to everyone what their options were wasn't about mandates it wasn't about anything that would scare people like you're seeing come from RFK Jr.. What? It just was good science as a physician i was able to express what I learned as a family practice physician how you would best protect yourself

1:05:52 We went analytically one community by the next, and what we saw was when people knew that they would have a lower mortality rate death rate by getting vaccinated. They made a good choice so that's the way it got to go. So we should give credit to the president for his work in his first term on the production of the mRNA vaccine. And we should also make sure that this is not a political question so that everyone can get access to that vaccination if they want it, if their doctors recommend it and the same can be said for other research because there... Hold on a second! First of all access has not cut off and if their doctor recommends it you can get it with a prescription Is that not the same as a doctor recommendation?

1:06:36 Yeah? Okay. Move to move away from bird flu research and mRNA research that means people will not get vaccinations in the next iteration which by the way is a national security threat if only China gets the vaccination say, then next time what's gonna happen? Yeah we're all gonna die! China! Wow... He's talking about taxpayer funding of research that benefits big pharma companies that have more than enough money in profits every year billions and billions and billions of dollars that they can invest in research if it's that important? That's what he's talking about. Well, how about this... If everyone is so sure in the-that it's not a matter of when but if I would totally! If you and I are running Pfizer be like hey hey Dr. Dvorak as so I'm pretty I'm like really sure it's not a matter of when but if

1:07:28 So we better have that thing to make a bundle and we'll give it ourselves first so we outlive everybody. That's what you do! That's what I be doing when we have to worry about some terrible virus or even God forbid an attack of some sort, these are real issues for governors and senators presidents and so it's a colossal mistake what they're doing and we're just trying to fill in the gap until there is new leadership. What does it say? The fact that you and your fellow governors on the West Coast feel the need for this... Okay, I'm sorry to stop but again until there's new leadership as this foregone conclusion or are you talking about three years from now

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Political Divide in Science, RFK Jr. Nutrition Focus

The debate over Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s role in the government centers on a schism between those following "science" and those following "politics." While some critics suggest Kennedy should focus solely on nutrition and pesticides, the hosts argue that the current public health establishment is bought and paid for by Big Pharma, making Kennedy's skepticism necessary.

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1:08:05 He's talking about getting rid of Kennedy. And presidents, and so it's a colossal mistake what they're doing and we're just trying to fill in the gap until there is new leadership. Get rid of Kennedy! What does it say? The fact that you and your fellow governors on the West Coast feel the need for this alliance... What does that say about the state of public health in this country? Well, the state of public health is a cataclysmic disaster right now because of Mr. Kennedy's leadership. Now let me be nice here for a moment. Mr. Kennedy could very well have something to offer the president and the country in the areas of processed foods or nutrition

1:08:42 or pesticide use, I appreciate that but because he's so divisive and because he has a political axe to grind with vaccinations we have a full schism. A true divide in our country and it tells you that there are two camps those who will follow science and those who will follow politics and those who will follow politics are currently in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, and it will kill people. Kill people! It will kill people. Kill people! You've already seen some fatalities from this big measles outbreak... What? And believe me in year two and three of this second administration is going to get very bad. So Mr Kennedy's not doing the president any favors at all I've had very good conversations

1:09:22 with leaders at every level in the federal government, including the president. And I am expressing this openly that he should move Mr Kennedy to a different place in the government if he wants to keep him. That's OK and put in someone that aligns with him politically perhaps conservatively but follows science. Hold on a second. Kennedy is a Democrat does not aligned politically or even edit it out at a human level at times with President Trump Right. So this is nonsense and they can work on that's ludicrous with Kennedy on some of these nutrition issues That's fine, but our health is at stake in our country especially for our children Especially for children who are not even yet of age to get some of the vaccinations It's gonna be really bad and it's gonna be worst in the states that are rural that are poor that

1:10:16 don't have access to health care providers at all, which by the way happened to be in the president's base as ironic as that might be. Yeah but we win Powerball bro so okay so don't worry about us we're good We got power ball in Texas oh man and again it's the sad part is that these people did he have a lab coat on? No, he's just a doofus governor looking guy. He was very Casper Milktoast type People really buy into this you know they really do Well yes as we were mentioning about a minute ago and I think yeah

1:10:56 That's one of the things that makes the show that we do kind of a valuable to valuable valuables very valuable it shows valuable and people should appreciate the fact at least were giving a perspective that is not bought and paid for by big pharma. That's all there is to it, that's all there is to it! And that's only because we won Powerball because we have nothing to lose Nobody has won power ball in this family So another... You know I figured out there are as many tickets as I buy if I don't buy any tickets I have the same odds of winning It's true Then there's this other issue which is another big government

CHAPTER 21 / 45 Discussion

Department of Energy Climate Report, Hurricane Season Forecasts

The US Department of Energy has released a draft report suggesting that warming temperatures from greenhouse gases are less damaging than previously believed. This has drawn criticism from the Department of Ecology and various climate scientists. Additionally, the hosts note that the 2024 hurricane season has seen fewer major storms than federal forecasters originally predicted.

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1:11:38 Movement which has been taking place around the world since the 60s, maybe even the 50's but the 60 certainly in the 70 got really big and it came back with a vengeance during the course of the past 18 years of this program. And so now there's a new report saying that climate change, it's not all that big of deal and boy we got to fight that. Department of Ecology is urging the federal government to withdraw its latest climate change report saying its inaccurate and ignore science The US Department of Energy's new draft report claims that warming temperatures due to greenhouse gases are less damaging than believed It also downplays links between climate change and extreme weather events heat wildfires and drought

1:12:19 The Department of Ecology says the report is harmful to communities seeing the impacts firsthand. Denying climate change by cherry-picking a few pieces of data won't alter the reality that we are experiencing on the ground where our communities and ecosystems are really experiencing the damage firsthand Right now is the comment period on the draft report. Dozens of climate scientists have weighed in with one saying the report, quote, makes a mockery of science. It makes mockery of science! So we have... The only 100 degree day we've seen in Texas this entire summer was Friday and it wasn't Austin not here our grass is green it's been raining again for two days and we're getting a cold snap

1:13:04 Starting Wednesday. Cold snap! Starting Wednesday. Yeah, there was some coming down from Canada that's supposed to hit a lot of Texas Not just Texas all of middle America And I and of course at the end of the year you can already predict it well 2025 was the hottest record ever we're boiling over here and where is all the horrible hurricanes? Oh, it's gonna be the worst season ever. Do we have a... I should probably start tagging these. We gotta start saving those clips because they always show up at the beginning of the season Here we go this is from August.

1:13:54 But with slightly less confidence, there is now a 50% chance of an above normal hurricane season. That's down from 60 percent in May. Federal forecasters expect a range of 13 to 18 total named storms including two to five major hurricanes so far there have been four named tropical storms and no hurricanes. That's that's an entirely new metric we'll have for it will have a whole bunch of named storms well Kiko is a named storm which is supposedly coming towards Hawaii. So they can name it, but 13 to 18 what have we had this year?

CHAPTER 22 / 45 Discussion

Skydance Media, Barry Weiss and MTV Revitalization

David Ellison's Skydance Media has reportedly purchased Barry Weiss's "The Free Press" for up to $200 million, with plans to install her in a leadership role at CBS News. Ellison is also floating ideas to revitalize MTV by returning to music video programming and "tastemaker" status, though skeptics doubt the viability of reviving cable networks for Gen X and Boomer audiences.

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1:14:34 Two or three? I mean real hurricanes. Oh, no hurricanes! No zero. There was one out in the middle of the Atlantic that never...that threw a bunch of rain but it was 100 miles from coast Not a hurricane. It got to four or five but it was out in the middle of nowhere Yeah didn't move Didn't move the needle man. Didn't move the needle So you know we've been laughing about CBS and Paramount about this deal with the Ellison kid. What's the kids name? David, I think yeah David Ellison Skydance so The first article that came out When does come out couple days September 4th so according to people familiar with a matter CBS Paramount sky dance whatever you want to call it has purchased

1:15:34 Barry Weiss's free press, the Free Press. Yeah for 100 million to 200 million dollars and apparently they're going to make her a bigwig at CBS News They think it had given her the executive job at CBS News And I thought that you know and Tina and I were talking about us That's actually kind of interesting that may change The way they do news You think? That could be kind of interesting but then i got this next report Which now, of course I have to get from the Wayback Machine because Wall Street Journal gives you a readable copy and then it takes it away. Here we go. You should download. I should download. So Skydance chief executive David Ellison...I guess he had a dinner party? He had a dinner party and the dinner guests put forward ideas to bring back MTV the way it was

1:16:33 What the original MTV play music videos Oh brother. Yeah, that's gonna go over This is a great idea this is very I think we should do this like okay a exit strategy for Adam Adams out of here Boomer TV everybody how you doing? They are literally talking about bringing back old MTV segments and interviews I'll be famous again. I gotta grow my hair so people recognize me on the street. You can get a, hey wigs! I mean... So i can tell you unequivocally that people of the gen x generation X and some boomers

1:17:21 Yeah, they all enjoyed a very special time and you know, hey man what happened to MTV? Why aren't they playing videos anymore man?! Okay well because nobody says that. They made ten times as much by putting on reality shows. That make you a lot more! That was where the money is and that's why they did that Oh okay well thanks MTV for 12 years of music in your 50 year history Yeah, that was a great time and we all shared that. You can't bring that back! You can't! That is really... I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal We think MTV could become The Music Tastemaker again

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Paramount Skydance Merger, Tyler Perry Production Costs

Following an $8 billion deal to acquire Paramount, Skydance executives are looking for ways to cut costs while maintaining popular content. A point of contention is the high production cost of Tyler Perry's shows for BET, which can reach $7 million per episode. The hosts discuss the difficulty of maintaining cable relevance in a streaming-dominated market.

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1:18:04 Music pacemaker maybe but oh I do That is pure comedic stylings Aims to keep and revitalize networks like MTV Comedy Central and Nickelodeon as part of a revamp of the struggling entertainment company And he wants to keep it on cable. What is wrong with this picture? Oh Oh, this is just publicity for the whole thing. They're not going to do any of that! Well what is he going to do with it? I think the Barry Weiss thing is right... I think they're gonna try and make Skydance which has actually produced some pretty good movies. I can't name them but every time I see one... No, every time I watch a movie that's decent and I see the Skydance logo come by I think oh yeah, that's interesting

1:18:57 They got the, definitely have the right winger you know dad Larry Ellis and... Larry. And you have to assume this son is conservative. Okay well hold on a second let's just look at these pretty good movies Terminator Genesis, Terminator Dark Fate, The Tomorrow War Top gun okay, that was a good one trying to gun now. There was it did that movie save the dead movies saved the industry Trent Transformers Rise of the Beasts Mission Impossible rogue nation another one's another killer Star Trek into darkness World War Z I think that was dud Jack Reacher That's big and The Old Guard

1:19:43 Hmm, okay. Well so they have some hits They have some hits in there talk to Brunetti about that He'll know he'll know if they actually made money on it Yeah I'll ask him actually do you have to ask him something but making money anyway So instead of green lighting the next seasons of popular BET originals That's black entertainment television like Terry Tyler Perry's divorced sisters which apparently is a hit and It is? Yes! Divorce-istas. The former Netflix executive who now heads streaming at Paramount Skydance, Cindy Holland has floated the idea of asking the creator to make originals that would cost more than $7 million an episode

1:20:32 Which is double what these shows typically cost. Can you believe that they're paying three and a half million dollars for an episode of Divorced Sisters? That's too high! It's way too high, that makes no sense... If they pay more than a million it should be the most anyone should pay to produce a TV show is $1 million bucks And they paid Perry 200 million dollars a year to make shows Well, he should just be fired. There's some cost-cutting people! That's amazing I just don't see how they can keep these cable shows and make them work and they want to keep it on cable They want to revive cable...I just don't see it Well maybe the whole thing is a disaster Feels like it

1:21:20 The kid, he's a millennial. He's like yeah you look at him like okay you know You got Irving Azoff and the guys from Universal Music at the dinner table Let's make MTV great again. It is the music guys that want to revive MTV I'm just like no, I wonder if we can sucker this stupid kid into doing this What do you think? I need a call with him. I'll tell you what You bring it up and i'l jump in and say what a great idea it is And then we will go from there

1:21:56 And uh... That's the kind of thing you and I would do. Think of the merch, David! Think of the merch sales. Hey, I need a call with David Ellison. Hey man bring me back for Headbangers Ball man. I'll bring hundreds of thousands of people. Watch Ricky Rackman to get the gig Oh man, it's just too funny. It's like no that doesn't feel like a strategy to me Would they pay for it seven billion eight billion? No I don't know what did your friend right there can answer instantly yeah He's not oh my friend right here our error you think she can answer yes She'll know how much the sky dance pay for Paramount

1:22:48 Skydance shelled out $8 billion total for Paramount, 1.75 to buy National Amusements outright then another chunk to wipe out debt and sweeten the deal for shareholders Whole thing closed just last month though it felt like forever with all the FCC drama I don't need you editorialize This is too short an easy answer I can just answer the question or I can answer the question and embellish it We don't need the embellishment. Don't okay a billion dollars it just doesn't feel right to me meanwhile the best idea ever for cable no one wanted to bite and that was our podcast channel which is a great idea this still is yeah but no one no one wants to do it no one wants you know I should say had typical you you actually any idea that involves you as typically 10 years I'd say five ten years ahead of its time yep

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AI Data Scarcity, Synthetic Data and Snap AI

Major AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic are reportedly struggling to find new high-quality data to ingest, leading to a reliance on "synthetic data" and partnerships for non-public datasets. Meanwhile, the FTC is investigating Snap's "My AI" chatbot for potential risks to young users, highlighting the growing legal and regulatory pressure on the sector.

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1:26:13 which is a big eye roller about, oh this is it. This is the future but here's the quote from his note that I thought was most interesting The big shops like OpenAI and Thropican Perplexity are struggling to find data to ingest for their models They're looking for partnerships with companies that have large and or unique non-public datasets And they are willing to pay a premium for access Data is the new gold in the world of AI. So they're out of it, they got to start using synthetic data That's why that's where all these images look so bad on our generator. Well that's an interesting little tidbit Mm-hmm Apple is being sued by authors now

1:26:59 Now that 1.5 billion... Well I gotta get on the bandwagon, who's the law firm? I got to call them up! I gotta be on these lawsuits Let me see... I've written a lot look at all the columns i've written for PC Magazine and I don't think it'd be able to get any money out of that but It's like I'm not getting any Ellison cash if they start replaying my headbangers ball episodes on the new MTV Believe me yours is ball. Yeah, we didn't do the right contract my sister-in-law called me up She says hey they just played a clip of you on Sirius XM from MTV Do you get money for that? No no that's not how it works

1:27:40 Oh, here we go. Oh no this is the lawsuit filed by authors Grady Hendricks and Jennifer Robertson so that was too individual you need your own lawyer hey I know who! Rob the constitutional lawyer. Maybe he might work out, he can just... He can coattail on some of this stuff it shouldn't be that much work. He's a bully too, he's great Oh i like a bully as a lawyer. That's what you want? He is a bully in boots that his new... I've had lawyers that were not bullies and they were just lame They suck, no they suck It would take forever to get the job done if they... It's never good. ...it was never as good as it should be

1:28:17 And then the Snap AI. So, the FTC commissioner Rebecca Slaughter I guess she's still around? I thought she was being kicked out but they're now saying hey we had a complaint against snap because I guess snapped also has my AI chat bot and it has posed potential risks and harms to young users all of this stuff is this these are lawsuits just waiting to happen everywhere And I think the author thing, that's a real deal. You get Anthropic you get Apple...I think there is money in it for you and I want to finders fee Rob because i connected you to John so.. I want $3 of every 3 thousand John gets What? What? 0.1%? Well I'm kind That not what finders fee is Ok 1500 thanks

CHAPTER 26 / 45 Discussion

NPR Word of the Week, Linguistic Analysis of Um

NPR featured a segment on the filler word "um," describing it as a "mighty building block of conversation" used for turn-holding and tone-softening. The report traces the word's history back to 1604 and notes its increasing use in informal social media captions. The hosts mock the academic seriousness applied to a common speech habit.

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1:29:18 No, that's not what a finder's fee is. You don't know what you're doing! I need you to be my agent for the money i'm taking from you And then I'll take the 15% from what YOU get All right, what do you want to do next? Okay let's see what we got. I got lots of Ukraine stuff but we can hold off on that Some what stuff? Ukraine there is some stuff happening Ruta I have a funny set of clips and unfortunately only took the second one You're going to have look at up the first of this from last show 96 And it is a funny exposition on the word um

1:29:56 Yes, I'll miss a word but I have NPR number two. Is that from? Yeah number one was from last show and I didn't move it over. I was gonna move it over and I thought I did yeah Yep, I have one and I have two we had we have a match We say and hear it all the time And it's often frowned upon Stop stop stop hold on a second. I got a message from Robb the constitutional lawyer He says he's gonna hire me as an expert witness there you go Perfect. It's coming out of your chest the way you do business. Coming out of your check, Dvorak! I told you the guy is a bully he's great He bullies his own clients We say and hear it all the time And it's often frowned upon But this two-letter filler word Is a mighty building block of conversation So for our latest Word Of The Week Let's have a talk about... Oh cute! Let's um...um...um...oh Latest Word Of The Week

1:30:55 have a talk about um thumb and peers Ayana Archie has more we use um for good reason it fills the space when we're trying to think of what to say next It can soften our tone to make us sound more casual or polite. Dumb! It also signals to people that we're not done talking, which is known as turn holding. That buys you time and helps prevent other people from talking over you. That was Jessa Ferris an etymologist and co-host of the Words Unraveled podcast Delphine Dahin leads a psycholinguistics lab at the University of Pennsylvania. The planning of this word doesn't take much effort

1:31:38 which means that's something that speakers can produce on the drop of a hat. Because of this, filler words with similar sounds and uses show up across languages and cultures in France it's an uh sound Brits and Australians say um despite its dominance um gets a lot of hate we have established in corporate culture and in public speaking and rhetoric that to make a clear argument you should sound as decisive as possible So, where did um come from? That's very interesting. The lady who is the expert on the um word she's drawing out words like that and uh to replace um and it's obvious she's doing it

1:32:24 Yeah, I think so. The earliest record of the word is in plays written by John Marston He was an English playwright who used um as early as 1604 the Oxford English Dictionary says People typically don't write um down because we have time to pause and think about what's next But younger people have started writing um informally to express humor confusion irony or signal a correction TikTok captions say things like, um is this normal? Mignon Fogarty has written several books on language under the moniker Grammar Girl. Here's what she had to say. It does show up more in social media than in business emails or things like that situations where people are writing as though they were speaking.

1:33:22 give you an answer. Um isn't the bad guy, but if you want to use it less it takes practice You can start by speaking more slowly Ayana Archie in PR News I'm gonna cum Well, okay. Is that both parts? That's both parts yeah. Yeah that's what I thought too like i thought it'd be a little more exciting anyway that was the because we always criticize people who say um um constantly now I do think that was a good segment I do it you do it we all do it yeah but not to an extreme let's get some umms from uh from our boy here from Rute

CHAPTER 27 / 45 Discussion

Mark Rutte NATO Comments, Defense Spending and Shipbuilding

During the Euro debates, Mark Rutte expressed concern over the West's defense industrial base, specifically naming companies like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. He warned that China's shipbuilding capacity now exceeds that of the U.S. and discussed the "hybrid" nature of modern warfare, which includes cyberattacks and assassinations.

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1:34:07 Oh, your buddy? Yeah he was on the Euro debates and... Trump's best friend. Instead of um I say enna. How come they didn't put that in there? He was talking on the Euro debates and he is indeed Trump's friend because he is right off the bat At first I thought it was talking about some prime ministers when I heard the names he was rattling off because very unclear But what he was actually saying was Raytheon, Boeing. I thought it was talking about prime ministers and he's telegraphing to them what they need to do next this is all about the war industrial base If i was Raytheon or Lockheed Martin or Rheinmetall or Leonardo I would think hey that is strange why has this happened at this moment in NATO because we are not producing fast enough and by the way when it comes to shipbuilding And our navy and particularly US Navy

1:35:05 I'm really worried. We at this shit building, we are very worried if I was Raytheon or other companies like Leonardo... He's the last one he said he had a list and had one there it was just wow! If I was Raytheon or Lockheed Martin Or iMetal or Leonardo I would think hey! Leonardo? What does Leonardo do? Leonardo... There must have been something else. It just sounded like Leonardo. Ships, do they build ships? Do they build ships? Yeah! They build cruise ships Oh a company called Leonardo? Apparently Maybe That is strange at this moment in NATO because we are not producing fast enough and by the way when it comes to ship building our Navy and particularly US Navy I'm really worried because China has now more ships sailing than the U.S

1:36:04 And shit building in the US is not at a rate that they can anywhere catch up on what China is doing at the moment. We really have to do some more shit building! Shit building is where it's at these days, Ray Tseung get into it But I don't think there will be an Article 5 kind of situation for China and Taiwan. When article five is yes or no triggered, it's there... Yes or no? Yes or no triggered! When it is yes or no triggered... When article five is yes or no triggered It's there that anyone listening in from China or Russia or other people who wish us well who think that we are not clear on this our reaction will be devastated based on the whole thing behind article five And when it comes to hybrids We're not naive

1:36:48 No, no they chopped it a little bit on the... Euro debates themselves cut him up. They chopped him up. This our reaction will be devastated based on the whole thing behind article 5 and when it comes to hybrid we are not naive. Hybrid is a cuddly word that sounds nice It's what kind of word? Cuddly. Hybrid is a cuddly word but this is NOT nice! Behind article 5. And when it comes to hybrid we are not naive, a hybrid is a cuddly word It sounds nice but it means assassination attacks jamming of planes Attacks on the National Health Service in the United Kingdom and many other examples What is this attacks on the health service in the United Kingdom? That was a very odd statement I have no idea what he's talking about So hybrid is assassinations

1:37:37 Hybrid is a cuddly word. It sounds nice, but it means assassination attacks, jamming of planes... General plagues? No, jemming of planes! Jemming of planes. Oh, jemming. There's reasons he's saying all this stuff but I had not heard of attacking the national health system of the UK that sounds like something yet to come. Attacks on our national health service in the United Kingdom and many other examples Very, very strange. That is very strange! And then try and riddle me this one... Sometimes we know President Eisenhower when it comes to the military-industrial complex although he was all in didn't he basically build NATO? I can't say that

1:38:27 I think he was a big part of it. I don't know, maybe... Listen to this statement. Sometimes people think we do the 3.5% core defence spending for an audience of one No! It is a coincidence that by spending 3.5%, We equalize what Europeans and Canadians are spending And the US is spending which is crucial Because we had to end that debate with Stratis Eisenhower basically saying that the US was paying more than the Europeans and the U.S. was totally right, and rightly irritated... ...and expecting Europeans in Canada to step up. That's not happening." So what he is saying is that Eisenhower said Europe is not paying enough? I don't recall this. I looked for speeches of him saying that. I don't think he has ever said that If anything you said be aware of the military-industrial complex

CHAPTER 28 / 45 Discussion

Ursula von der Leyen GPS Jamming, Paper Map Landing

A plane carrying EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen was reportedly targeted by Russian GPS jamming while landing in Bulgaria, forcing pilots to use paper maps. However, the hosts analyze ADS-B flight data which shows no interruption in the plane's GPS transmission, suggesting the story may be fabricated to drum up anti-Russian sentiment.

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1:39:19 Well, no he we know that because that's his famous speech But maybe I mean he was there in the office for eight years. He could have said that anywhere along the line well It's not famous where I could find it easily on YouTube but he brought up plain GPS plane jamming GPS plane jamming now I'm sure you saw the story of Queen Ursula's flight Being jams GPS jamming while she was flying. I have not seen this story ah oh Give me a rundown. I have a rundown and pay attention to how these ladies talk about it on CNN A plane carrying the EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen was targeted by GPS jamming while trying to land in Bulgaria, a spokesperson has said it's believed the interference was carried out by Russia The plane landed safely after the pilots used paper maps

1:40:10 Senior international correspondent Melissa Bell has more on this from Paris. Paper maps! I can't believe they use paper maps! So, Melissa good to have you on what more do we know about what happened here? I mean pilots reverting and resorting to using paper maps just shows the incredible jamming that occurred here where the plane systems essentially the GPS systems went down Okay now there's another piece of this from this lady But let's just talk about what this means. Paper MIPS! Okay, so up until 2006... Literally I was still flying without a GPS until 2008 Yeah you had a sectional map but if you're landing at an airport You use something called the ILS instrument landing system

1:41:03 And it is radio transmitter based. That gives you... Yeah, they're telling you what to do right? Well it gives you two- You have an actual instrument that is not GPS based and it grabs the vertical in the horizontal and there's literally two lines and when they align your on the glide scope and your headed right for the runway and thats been used since World War II But now it's like, paper maps! Oh they had to land with paper maps. Why am I talking like Rutte? She's British. Anyway... So this is- that's like... I mean you still have to train

1:41:39 on an ILS. Every pilot who flies knows, has the instruments it's not GPS based in fact you use ILS landing more often than you think this whole GPS jamming thing the way they're making it sound like oh we're so glad she got on the ground she was so lucky that they had to use paper maps We don't even use that in the car anymore This is crazy and of course we need to blame it on Russia Froze, that's right. We only found out about this today as a result of the Commission speaking out about it Eleni after getting word from Bulgarian authorities that this GPS jamming was they believe the work of Moscow but it happened of course on Sunday This is part of Ursula von der Leyen Europe's top leader Of course The commission president's whistle-stop tour of Eastern Europe designed specifically to shore up support for Ukraine

1:42:34 On this tour, as she landed in southern Bulgaria this incident on what was a charter plane the commission's also recognized that they don't know whether she herself was specifically targeted or the plane in general but certainly very concerning. As you say the pilots having to resort to paper maps to land the planes safely it did land safely and she was able to carry on with her work but pointed out on the tarmac there, after of course learning of this incident but before the rest of world had learned that there was an urgency that we needed to keep in mind about fighting Russia and continuing to support Ukraine. You can see those images of her landing on Sunday on that airport tarmac in southern Bulgaria safely but another example as she said all they need is to keep a very close eye on Russia and continue fighting now unfortunately the whole story is bullshit

1:43:22 I said it. I used the bullshit word because for 10 years now we've had something called ADS-B and ADS-B is directly connected to the GPS system of the aircraft, and ADS-B transmits altitude position speed, all these different parameters to the ground over radio waves which is being received by hundreds of thousands of enthusiasts around the world. If you've ever looked at Flightradar24 or flight aware or any of these other systems

1:44:04 That data is actually collected by people with, some have antennas outside but most of them they just have a USB stick you stick into your computer and your Raspberry Pi and it receives this data position altitude attitude speed of the aircraft. And they aggregate that on these websites well you can see this flight from Queen Ursula There was no deviation. All the data comes through perfectly, they were not circling around for hours... If anything it looks like they had a missed approach And they went, oh I think they lied. They missed the approach. They screwed something up maybe... Maybe they were flying GPS approach RNAV or something and they didn't like it and they went around like Oh man! We can't tell anybody we screwed this up You can see that there was no interruption of GPS data It just kept transmitting exactly where they were throughout the entire flight This is a lie! And it's a laughable one Well tells me one thing

1:45:10 There's way too much ambient RF in the atmosphere. Oh yeah, well there is a lot of that... These have been around for a long time. Yeah, so wrong. So bullcrap! Yeah, that's a good catch. Good so now this all comes like it sounds like bullcrap anyway I mean besides that I mean what mechanism are they using to jam the GPS? They got a bunch and is what is Russia got a bunch of antennas positioned in Bulgaria or what's going on you can jam them from satellite we do this we purposely Throw GPS That should be traceable

1:45:48 Yeah. There's the evidence then, why don't we show some evidence that Russia did this? We're not! This is just Queen Ursula... They're just making stuff up but nothing as good as Rita who had, for whatever reason he had to downplay Putin in an amazing way. Ukraine is a sovereign nation if Ukraine wants to have security guaranteed forces in Ukraine and support the peace it's up to them nobody else can decide about that I think we really have to stop making put into powerful here's his government of Texas not more so let's take this seriously

CHAPTER 29 / 45 Discussion

Coalition of the Willing, Troops in Ukraine Proposal

A group of 26 countries, dubbed the "Coalition of the Willing," has reportedly agreed to deploy troops to Ukraine to provide security guarantees following a potential ceasefire. French President Emmanuel Macron led the talks, while Vladimir Putin warned that any foreign troops in Ukraine would be treated as legitimate military targets.

ukraine· coalition of the willing· emmanuel macron· vladimir putin· donald trump· ceasefire

1:46:26 What did you just say? Careful now, Mark. The governor of Texas. I think Abbott should come out and complain about that comment. That was rather rude. Anyway so with the coalition of the willing They had their big meeting, big meeting everybody. Big meeting about what we're going to do? We're going to boots on the ground who's gonna do it how are we gonna have that what's gonna happen come on after a day of intense talks at the Elysée Palace The coalition of the willing has reached an agreement today 26 countries have formally agreed and some others still have to confirm their position

1:47:09 26 countries have agreed to deploy troops as security guarantees. Troops in Ukraine, which will be present on the ground at sea and in the skies to bring that reassurance to Ukraine the day after a ceasefire or peace deal." Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky welcomed the agreement and expressed his gratitude for America's support. We agree there will be presence I'm not yet ready to speak about the numbers, although to be honest we already understand an approximate number of those who've already agreed. We're also discussing a matter which i believe will be further discussed it's the backstop of America. We count on that. We are very grateful to America for supporting and being part of security guarantees for Ukraine." The coalition concluded talks with a call with US President Donald Trump A White House official was quoted as

1:48:02 telling reporters that Trump urged Europe to stop buying Russian oil and put pressure on China to punish it for funding Russia's war efforts. On Thursday morning, a spokesperson for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the guarantees would be a springboard for provocation. They're not guarantees of Ukraine security they are guarantees of danger to the European continent The coalition of the willing now looks to the US to formalize the plan in the coming days. Yeah, so President Trump being very vague about all this... yeah we're here and we're around you call us if you need us

1:48:40 Russian President Putin is very clear. It took Vladimir Putin a few hours to react to pledges made by the Coalition of the Willing, according to French president Emmanuel Macron 26 countries out of the group's 35 have said they would deploy troops by land sea or air to help protect Ukraine after a ceasefire or peace is reached This was the Russian president's response Should there be any troops deployed in Ukraine, especially now in the course of the military action we would treat them as legitimate targets. Vladimir Putin said he saw no reason to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine once peace is signed He also said that if Ukraine is getting security guarantees

1:49:32 then Russia should get some as well. Meanwhile, you will back you to Vladimir. We'll back you. We'll back everybody in Russia should get some as well. Meanwhile Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed pledges made by the coalition adding that countries can step up their support Ukraine before a ceasefire is signed in the next few weeks we'll talk with each country about what exactly they can do and it's important that security guarantees start working now. I'm working on getting a Zelensky voice. During the war... So, I am mumbling in the background? Alright, alright. It's tense. President Donald Trump has excluded sending US troops to Ukraine but has mentioned the U.S providing security guarantees with no details on what they would entail. Responding to journalists on Thursday Trump said he would hold new discussions with Vladimir Putin soon. Putin

1:50:35 Putin said what I'm hearing is Europe who is war hungry, war mongers They just want war. They can't help themselves, they're saying well you know we're going to put all of our hundreds of thousands of troops that were rousting from the German streets, we're going to put them in Ukraine and Putin is saying well if you do that they are valid targets unless I can get some security guarantees which i take to be as oh we're gonna put our troops on the other side of the demilitarized zone and an ongoing armistice for the rest of our lives so everybody can keep their war economy. But to find out what's really going on, we turn to my sage in all this... Our Canadian Andrew Rasoulis

CHAPTER 30 / 45 Discussion

Andrew Rasiulis Analysis, Russian Fall Offensive

Canadian defense expert Andrew Rasiulis provides an analysis of the Ukraine conflict, suggesting that Russia is gearing up for a major fall offensive to force a victory before its economy suffers from sanctions. He notes that the "Coalition of the Willing" plan is a non-starter for Moscow and that the Russians currently hold the stronger hand in negotiations.

andrew rasiulis· canada· russia· ukraine· fall offensive· sanctions

1:51:23 Who I think had some good takes on this the first the audio on this first one is a little choppy But that's only a little bit in the first clip and we're on this story. We're now joined by Andrew Rizullis He is a fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a retired Department of National Defense official Thanks so much for talking to us this morning First of all your reaction to this latest attack, I think it's there's two elements to it First, Putin and the Russian military are following up Putin's political words over the weekend that Russians would never tolerate any coalition of willing forces, NATO-type forces deploying to Ukraine either before a ceasefire or after.

1:52:03 that the Russians would consider them as hostile forces and that would also include any Canadian contingent. The second point though, I think the Russians are actually gearing up for a very determined fall offensive they have waged a very strong summer offensive and recently have made some unexpected type of... I think what's going to happen now is the Russians are going for victory Because all this talk about coalition of the willing, deploying forces. The Russians are not having that and they're saying look it either we create a neutral Ukraine status or we're going to go for victory and I think the Russians are very serious about waging a war to force Ukrainians accept the Russian conditions

1:52:46 By the way, as a technical point of note. The reason why he started cutting out is because some idiot sound guy decided to pot up the sound of Putin in the background and Zoom doesn't know what to do with it. So they stopped that luckily. And so what about President Trump in all this? Let's talk about the timing of this though because this is all coming just a week or rather a few weeks after Russian president Vladimir Putin said he reached understandings with US President Donald Trump When it comes to the end of the war with Ukraine, of course that came out of the meeting with Trump in Alaska. Based on that and what's now happened overnight, what was achieved there? Well I think—what was achieved actually was dialogue at the highest level. We didn't have that before Alaska and then the follow-up meeting at The White House with Zelensky and Trump on the Monday following. So no we do have this dialogue

1:53:38 And because we have the dialogue, we actually know how far apart the positions are. But that is a result of dialogue which again didn't have before so We now know that Russians are not going to accept Ukrainian position and Ukrainians are not gonna accept Russian position So we know there will be more war until one can force other Right now Russians winning the war and they have stronger hand Yeah, he just says it. That's really good you don't get that from any other Western media Now we go to the boots on the ground part and the sanctions is any of that working? Let's talk about something You touched on just a few moments ago The fact that Putin has attacked this plan about sending any foreign troops

1:54:22 to help out in this conflict. What are your thoughts on that, given what Canada has said it plans to do? Given what France has said it plans to do in deploying troops by land, sea or air to guarantee Kiev's security? Where did they go from here? Well I don't think they go very far because the Russians clearly said this is a non-starter now The Western response to that is more sanctions. So they're saying, OK we need to pressure the Russians to accept our coalition of the willing and Ukrainian position and the Russians are saying no. And they were in Beijing, Putin was in Beijing with

1:55:01 you know, a couple of days ago for the big 1945 end of World War II parade. And the meetings there... The Indians were there, the Chinese were there all of Putin's allies were there and they formed a very strong phalanx So Putin is feeling very strong about resisting Western sanctions But Western sanctions are the only option available for the coalition of the willing in Ukraine I'm telling ya They just don't want to resolve it The Europeans are crazy And isn't this the proverbial nobody wins a pissing contest? Because there's really only... This is the kind of thing that deteriorates. That's the problem, this is similar to what happened in World War I Explain Well World War 1 it started off with the assassination of this character The Ferdinand!

1:55:53 Ferdinand in the middle of nowhere by some nut job. And then it became a bunch of people shaking their fists at each other and the next thing you know, it devolved into a world war! It was this damnedest thing. Yeah, and this kind of thinking it festers. It's like a it's like an open wound Well you're right because there's only two ways this can go last clip from Andrew Rasulis Finally I do want to ask you this some analysts have said that Putin is betting Ukraine's army will break before his economy does How do you see it? Yes exactly That is the Russian position The Russians are now as I mentioned mounting what appears to be a major fall offensive

1:56:32 That is exactly what they're trying to do, break the Ukrainian forces. Burn them out before the Russian economy struggles further. The Russian economy is under pressure there's no doubt about that but it's not at the severe point there's no rationing in Russia and if you get into a sever wartime economy you start to ration so Russians are not there yet but they don't want to go there They want to try and bring this war to a closure on their terms as soon as possible And I think they're launching these military operations now, but they are open for a dialogue with Ukraine. If they want to come around and accept Russian terms the Russians will stop the war." And the Europeans don't care about Ukraine... They're cannon fodder to them! They really don't care

CHAPTER 31 / 45 Discussion

Russian Economy and Caviar, North Carolina Sturgeon Farming

The discussion shifts from the resilience of the Russian economy under sanctions to the global caviar market. The hosts note that high-end caviar is now being farmed in the United States, specifically in North Carolina, using elaborate systems that allow for egg extraction without killing the sturgeon.

russia· caviar· sturgeon· north carolina· sanctions· bricks

1:57:13 I agree. And if Russian...people talk about the Russian economy, the Russian economy is doing just fine just as he said. There's no rationing or anything going on and they're doing...if they just turn their sights on China and India as making a giant market there with maybe even Iran in South Africa and some other people thrown in. Yeah, The Bricks gang. The bricks thrown in for good measure The Russians would coast through this economically. They don't, like they said what are you going to sanction? They're not doing any business with us now. Caviar! We don't even use Russian caviar anymore. Now where do we get it from Nova Scotia

1:57:58 No, we get it from everywhere. Caviar is grown... We can get some good caviar in North Carolina. Really? We have sturgeon? We have caviar from North Carolina? Yeah and they grow the sturgeons there and the big ones, the big boys. And its all farmed in a very elaborate system and they cut out the caviar and sew up the sturgeons put them back into action It's just and you get this terrific product. They even have the high-end, super high end caviar comes out of the United States. China has a lot of caviars. Iranians are the big caviar makers there alongside the Russians but we don't trade with them that much. I can get Iranian saffron. I know two stores that sell it so they're doing some trading

1:58:46 But, um... Yeah. Where's Peeta in all of this cutting open the sturgeons and sewing them back up? That sounds kind of rude! They're having, you know— Just for some eggs? Can't we just catch them as they shoot them out? With their bellinis. Bellinis?! There's nothing like a bellini with some sour cream. Mm-hmm. A little bit of egg, little bit of onion. Oh yeah baby I'd love me some caviar especially from, where is it? North Carolina. Yeah I believe it's North Carolina but that's not the only farm we have in this country there are a couple of them. I look at every once and awhile because before there was an event or something like that I think well I'm going to buy some caviar and they ship it out Wait wait wait stop! What event do you have? Well I haven't bought any for Christmas I'll buy caviar for Christmas I used too I don't do it anymore because we're starving to death We're not getting enough donations for the podcast but beside the point

CHAPTER 32 / 45 Discussion

EU Google Fines, Cookies and FLOC Tracking

The European Union has imposed a 3 billion euro fine on Google for favoring its own advertising services, while a U.S. judge recently rejected a demand for Google to sell its Chrome browser. The hosts discuss Google's failed attempts to replace browser cookies with "FLOC" (Federated Learning of Cohorts) and the ongoing struggle over digital privacy and tracking.

google· european union· antitrust· cookies· floc· chrome

1:59:36 I'm not squandering, I'm using my income from investments for the caviar. I just want to mention that but I don't have it and I haven't been getting it and I'm kind of reluctant because you can get caviar... Now they sell the Russian grocers in San Francisco there's a little Russian segment of town there. The caviar is this hybrid crap, it's no good. If Europe really wants America as a backstop, maybe they shouldn't be doing stuff like this. Not happy with the EU's fine on Google Donald Trump is threatening sanctions and no I'm going to be speaking to the European Union but it's not fair people say there was nothing wrong with what they did it's almost a source of income to run Europe

2:00:23 Google says it's appealing a fine of almost 3 billion euros by the European Commission, which says the search giant took advantage of its grip over online advertising to favour its own ads and content. Also this week Google was fined 425 million dollars in the US for gathering data from smartphone users that should have been protected by their privacy settings. I didn't hear about that, did you hear about this? No i've not heard about it. From their privacy settings? The privacy settings, they realized they were stealing data. What?! There's gambling going on out there!

2:01:04 And France's data protection authority fined Google 325 million euros for failing to respect the law on internet cookies. Oh, the cookies! They were gonna get rid of cookies. The cookies... $325 million dollars worth of cookies? Remember they were going to get rid of cookies? They kept saying oh no we've got a better system now and want to use cookies What is it what's a better system than cookies? Umm.. what was it called It was, uh... Hold on. So it's gotta be bad whatever it is? Cookies are bad enough! You know what cookies were invented for Luke? Flock! It was flock. Who invented cookies? Netscape Yes Originally invented for your MyNetscape wasn't it? I-it was-it really-it was an invented

2:01:52 I think it was invented for the purposes of tracking. There's no other reason to do it, but supposedly you went to the website that had logged you so when you went back you wouldn't be getting redundant information and it was supposed to be a good idea. But it wasn't, I don't think so. Well Google said many times they were going to replace cookies with FLOCK! You've heard of FLOCK? Federated Learning of Cohorts tracking feature. Yes, a track is just to track you like a dog! Exactly but I guess they can't get it to work or that have to share the information with other people and they don't like doing that and I know how they're gonna manage eventually with

2:02:35 with AI. Anyway, let's continue this. These might sound like scary sums but they're a small fraction compared to the quarter of a trillion dollars that Google added to its market share this week as it stock shot up by more than 11 percent anything why because investors are breathing a sigh of relief sure the Google avoided being broken up in a European Commission could have ordered Google to divest part of its business but said at first wants to assess the company's efforts to comply giving it 90 days to do so And on Tuesday a US judge rejected the American government's demand that Google sell its Chrome web browser. As a reminder, it was Donald Trumps first administration that brought that case against Google. We didn't really talk about it but I thought that was quite interesting they didn't have to divest from Chrome if anything I thought that would be the right way to go. I don't know what the right way to go is with breaking up these companies Well how about spinning out YouTube and see if they really make any money?

2:03:37 That would be a good way to go, but I think YouTube now that they got the YouTube TV. They have to be making money at this point. I don't know man there's a lot of data A lot of caching at the edges...I mean it is not cheap What is it? $7? Now they have hour-long videos those things can't be cheap to post Man I'm streaming the quad screen all day long and every four hours It says are you still there?! They're not doing that because it's not costing the money. Because they turn if off if you don't... So, you're using Google TV and they have a feature where you can have four screens up at the same time? Right but just... Are you using one screen or are you separating out how you do in it? No I have one screen, one television screen One big giant screen with four quads Big giant screen

2:04:28 But it doesn't matter anything if you're watching CNBC, it doesn't matter what you're watching. After four hours If-if you haven't interacted They shut you off because it's costing them money basically Well, they figured you know if you're not if you don't get the message when they flash it in the screen. You're not there Yeah, I mean why should to be wasting bandwidth sending a crap that way? I see it yeah because It's still costing them money. I just don't think horses costing them money is not free Remember when Leo thought the bandwidth was free oh Yeah, I remember that. He made a big fuss about it. Remember how funny that was? Yeah, VanWidth is free! What's the problem?! I don't understand what...what's the fuss? Yeah he did say that. With that i want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea and the European coal mission Say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr. Sea DeMora

CHAPTER 33 / 45 Discussion

Podcast Production Value, Animated Chapter Art

The hosts discuss the technical side of their production, including the use of modern podcasting 2.0 apps and the creation of animated chapter images. They credit producers like Dreb Scott and Nestworks for contributing art and metadata as part of the "value for value" model, while critiquing the current state of AI-generated imagery.

podcasting 2.0· value for value· dreb scott· ai art· nestworks

2:05:22 I had to cough in the middle of my announcement review that was bad and i thought that the echo would keep going when I cut the mic but it cut the echo. Oh, thats the reason you had delay? Yeah because if we cut off Interesting. Yeah, it was bad 1931 in the troll room today still about 250 shy of what we're used to but it's okay no

2:06:04 What do you mean no? It's 2400, 2200. Is it 2400 what is it on Sunday? As far as I'm concerned its 2500 No it was never 2500 Yeah It was always 2400. It was 1800 on Thursday and 2400 on Sunday Sucks! It's just people who can't maybe they can't listen live because they're all they've all become plumbers and their working on stuff They have jobs Our people have jobs man Well we do have people that work for a living there's no doubt about that but I think is when we lost them during that the dark era where they couldn't get on, they never came back. This is like when you lose a person to... When you lose a person it's an old marketing rule It's harder to get them back than to get a new person Yeah so you have to work in getting new people constantly So talk to your neighbor and say hey are you listening live?

2:06:57 And if they're not, then tell them they should be. Because it's fun! It's fun and you get the news right away You get everything fresh hot off the griddle and if you use a modern podcast app you'll be notified when we go live I can't put a message in that I should probably, uh...I don't think i can do that. Yeah make it put in podcasting 2.1 Yes okay we'll work on that podcasting two dot one is coming right up get your modern podcast app at podcastapps.com That's where you want to be that's what you want You don't want a legacy app you want something fresh modern that brings you all of the great new features now including animated chapter images

2:07:43 I haven't seen that yet. Well, do you? You don't even have it. You never use an app. You're not even listening to the show! You'd have to see it on this on the art generator wouldn't ya? Uh well he doesn't get them from the art generator He gets them from other places and puts...He just puts it in with animators Oh just random...Rando images Rando rando Rando images has got something to do with the show maybe or not Yeah of course It has something to do with the topic yeah Rando Images He does a good job. And that is part of our value for value proposition, Dreb Scott he does the chapters for us which is quite a lot of work because he has to mark everything go back put it all in and go to the chapter studio and add in the images adding little titles and funny stuff and then he's gotta save it all send it to me and then I put it on this server as big as a big process

2:08:40 But it's value for value. He is sending value back as part of the value he received from the show and a lot of those images that are used in art animated, are in fact values we received from our prompt jockeys I don't think I've seen a single original piece of art in the last 10 shows No, no there was one. There's one that said this is not AI art Okay though that was one and yeah And to be honest you know it's hard to find something that's really exciting anymore They're all okay now Ness works This I'm not sure about nestworks because he is a real artist and it looks like he's doing hybrid He's doing hi. Well. He's the real artists, but he's not an idiot oh

CHAPTER 34 / 45 Discussion

AI Art Critique, Orange Metadata Theory

A critique of listener-submitted AI art focuses on the repetitive use of the color orange and cartoonish styles, which the hosts suggest is a sign of "model collapse." They speculate that AI models might be storing metadata in specific colors like orange, leading to a lack of original or exciting visual content from "prompt jockeys."

ai art· orange· model collapse· prompt jockeys· jeffrey rea

2:09:21 Yeah, correct. And so he's gonna use the tools available to him Yes So this the big one the bomb with no agenda He's got the Noah gender like exploding Oh and he's got Hyperdermic needles going into this thing and it looks really good on a white background Which is more that's a good piece we were very good piece and we used that for episode 9 1796 Wow This is 1797, only three more to go and it's episode 1800. Moving up on our 18th anniversary we titled that one Zeds for the zeds, the generation zed. Let's see what else... I like We Need The List but you crushed it because this was a cartoon. It was another orange cartoon!

2:10:13 It's an orange. Now it's not even orange anymore now, but you're colorblind so you're seeing more orange than anyone. It's orange. It's also like leader of China is Mike if that would have been great if it wasn't a cartoon by by Jeffrey. I'm going to tell you right up front people who make cartoons that have orange in them. I'm not I'm gonna veto them time and time again It makes me tired. It makes you tired? Yeah, it makes me tired! I look at it and just go, ohhhhhh...I'm so tired. And Comicstreetblogger, you can stop with the butts and boobs any time now. It's not even exciting us after the show. It's like just more scrolling. There are another butts there is another boob okay

2:11:03 So, no. And this is consistent. Please let me know Jeffrey Ria who I think is a digital 2112 man and who else does the Jeffrey Ria? Jeffrey Ria Darren O'Neill tell me what AI you're using because it's all coming out the same now that's model collapse on that one for sure Just nothing new. But Sir Shug, who did the Therapi, TherapAI which we didn't choose but that's also cartoonish AI but has no... well actually it does there is- No is it? No its totally different It's got to be a different product. But it's got orange in the letters and orange in the thought bubble I mean it's crazy the amount of orange Why Orange? We talked about this before That's where they're keeping all their metadata

2:11:57 Well, we want to thank Nestworks for bringing us an outstanding piece. Noahjennartgenerator.com People are still having problems getting an account I'm not sure why? I don't know if there's some secret to it It'll kick back a error message saying you uploaded the wrong size Does anybody know what that is I thought it was, don't you have to do 512 by 512? Isn't that what every... I have no idea. I should mention it Yeah well there's a problem and then people send it to me and say what am I doing wrong like I don't know! I really don't know Why don't you just forward the messages off to our buddy I do it all the time to Paul Couture And he is not paying attention No probably not

2:12:34 Anyway, thank you very much. Nessworks we appreciate that and we appreciate all the work all of our prompt jockeys do I miss the I missed the Dutch masters? Oh, I'm not gonna lie. I missed the Dutch masters. I missed it a lot But I understand I get it You know We have in essence also no end-of-show mixes that are new and we have one new one today Because you know people have gotten lazy like yeah, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do an AI song And then I won't play it I'm like, oh he didn't play my AI song. Five minutes was dynamite man! They gotta find some way of making these AI songs short Short and funny Like 50 seconds Let's go over it limited at 50 seconds And make them funny Not impressed by wow that singing is great I don't care You got to have a hook man Gotta have a hook

CHAPTER 35 / 45 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Crooked River Cast

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors and "Associate Executive Producers," including a brother-in-law duo from Ohio who started the "Crooked River Cast." The new podcast focuses on local Northeast Ohio news and politics, following the "No Agenda" model of media deconstruction at a regional level.

value for value· donations· ohio· cuyahoga river· podcasting

2:13:31 Also as part of Value for Value, we have people who send us treasure. It's time talent and treasure We love the treasure keeps the home fires burning and we thank everybody who supports us on each episode $50 and above And there's a special bonus for those who are fortunate enough to be able to afford it We have a special credit for those who support us with $200 or more. You become an associate executive producer and we'll read your note, $300 and above, an executive producer and will read you know but remember everybody can become a knight or a dame or move up the peerage ladder just by keeping track of your donations. I've had people doing this for over 10 years and now becoming knights and dames and that does of course get you that handsome

2:14:16 a night or day ring, please be patient. We order them based on size we don't have like a whole bunch of size six hanging around so it could take a month to 6 weeks but we have always delivered even... Yeah because we're up against the wall and we gotta get that put in an order and it takes a month to get them back Oh I thought Jay already put the order in Not that I know off Well, we want to start off today by thanking James Dumont from North Hampshire— New Hampshire. North Hampshire. New Hampshire. Lindaburg? Lindeboro? Lindeboro! Lindenboro, New Hampshire. There you go 515 38 says thank you for the city and the state get I don't know They're all they're all that way no No, they stop being that way at line five was PayPal who knows Thank you for the sanity You've provided since kovat happened I would like to be declared the Attorney General of Gen Xers now there you go There's an attorney general title who laugh at being ignored because we are

2:15:20 And I request, you're not being ignored. If anything we pay extra attention to you and he says uh...I would like to have the following jingle spot the spook and that's true We can do that? Spot the spook, spot the spook Everybody wants to spot the spook Yes! That's true It's true. It's true. Why don't you take this one because it is about podcasting and everything you've been promoting for the last 10 years about local. Oh, Robert Kaminowski from Ohio Seven Hills, Ohio 350 and 93 cents he says with your encouragement my brother-in-law I have managed to start a podcast ah just what the world needed right?

2:16:06 Absolutely. And if it's a local one, in an attempt to keep track of what happens in our local area there we go we have started the Crooked River Cast named and referenced as one of Ohio's most famous rivers the Cuyahoga River. Cuyahoga means crooked river so they say It is most famous for burning in 1969 helping clear the way for EPA and Clean Water Act Yep! Its our fault Tom and I dig through the news throughout the week looking for what interests us in the great state of Ohio on news, politics and culture. Keeping track of our critters in Columbus both the R's and Ds one show at a time This is like a local NOA agenda We're focusing on Northeast Ohio with a weekly show posted every Monday morning

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2:18:45 Thank you for your courage. Producers, two matching donations of 333 are still available up to and including show 1800. Don't worry about it. You got a couple here today already or one at least. Yep. Love & Light Sir Scovey of the Piedmont. R-E-S-P-I-C-T And Alexander Wenta is one of those matching from Manchester, New Hampshire. 333 dot 33 and he says AI is fake! Christ is king clear. AI is fake? Sir Sam in Bedford UK and here's your three three three dot three three gentlemen it's been too long since my last donation and I can't stand that my cousin Scott Long is still a douchebag

2:19:42 Douchebag. Well... DOUCHEBAG! Okay, sorry. I have to do? Yeah He's the only person i've ever successfully hit in the mouth well try harder so i'm using some of my apple shill money through the Less than $20 a share. Oh, you bought the stock at 20! Nice nice You can give us more than this. Well it depends on how much shares you buy. Weren't there weren't there a couple of splits along the way? It's outrageous He sold it last year for a lot more and to put an end to this situation Okay So he gets deducing now see that's why I was holding back You've been de-douche'd

2:20:29 Well, the douchebag was... Oh. Okay Scott does some amazing custom vehicle upholstery at... What do we have here? Sean in interiors.com Shana, S-H... Sinae. No it's pronounced CNAE this is a horrible name so you print you spell it. Yo CNAE yeah this is not a good URL. S E A N A E interiors dot com pronounce CNAE CNAE interiors dot com

2:21:11 CNAinteriors.com, check him out if you live in the Midwest and need any vehicle... I thought he was a guy from the UK and need any vehicle or postage services? Keep up with the amazing work John! Keep on bringing the TikTok clips! And everyone else keep buying iPhones. He's still holding. He still owns stock okay Sir Sam of the Bedfordshire and River Great What's that say? Oose. House, house. House what's an ouse? I don't know it's kind of bird. I have no idea. It's a confusing note and then we get uh...what do we have here we have Charlotte in San Francisco 333 dot 33 another match i guess we're going to be done for the matches hello John Adam here's my donation she writes on a handwritten note

CHAPTER 36 / 45 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Medical Karma Requests

During the peerage segment, a listener who survived a ruptured brain aneurysm credits the "Duchess of Jobs" for helping him return to work. Another request for "karma" involves a legal battle in a blue state where an ex-husband is suing to force COVID-19 vaccinations on young children against the mother's wishes.

knighting· peerage· brain aneurysm· vaccine mandates· jobs karma

2:22:02 You can tell she's a woman just from how she writes, this beautiful handwriting. Hoping to be part of the matching rally one of your other generous donators has offered? Well you're in! You two make me laugh underline and that's why I keep coming back yours truly Charlotte in San Francisco California Nice handwriting. Well thank you Charlotte Sir Eric in Texas and he is in San Antonio 261 69 ITM gentlemen, Sir Eric here. First and foremost happy birthday Adam. Thank you. Delated but there it is I would like to congratulate you two on y'alls continuing success and maintaining what is the best podcast in the universe Y'all's value to me is incalculable So please accept this donation for exactly 261 69 I would like

2:23:00 to call out Jacob Kleiss as a douchebag. I hit him in the mouth a few years ago and he admitted to me that he has listened ever since and has never donated with that said please attribute this donation and associate executive producer shipped to him. Oh, okay so this is switcheroo Hmm. My success of hitting people in the mouth is lacrimose. There's a word that's got my, I don't know. Lacrimose? I've never heard of this one. It has to do with humorless or something but Jacob gives me hope in sharing your message please play 6969 dude jingle and some relationship cover would be appreciated PS John please forgive me for forgetting the H last time

2:23:58 Do you remember what that's about? No. 69! 69, dudes! You've got karma. And Steve Weiss in Nevada Las Vegas comes in with 250 associate executive producership and he has a switcheroo for his smoking hot wife an honor of their 25th anniversary and they never had a fight we don't know her name though which so what do we call just Mrs. Weiss Yeah, Miss Steve? Ms. Weiss! Mrs. Weiss I think Ms is funnier. Give her a train horn and a boogity-boogity boots on the ground report on summer job sent in separate email to John To John did you receive a separate email to you to John probably mentioned his wife in that one I'd have to look No it got blocked Do you have a train horn? What do you have a train horn we don't...I don't have a train horn

2:24:58 I have a bunch of train horns. I got this, I got this... Wow that was-that was a lot of noise at the same time! I'd say. Okay yes i have train-I've got plenty o' train horns. Yes Jeremy Gray in Owosso Oklahoma 220. Also I have also have this classic Yeah, well. Dear John and Adam this is my second donation to the show thank you for a consistently high quality product Thank you for saying that I like the following jingles 1 rubalizer 2 Obama no-no-no and any old explosion sound effect Thank You Jeremy 220 Okay couple things one i'm retiring the rubalizer it is to only be used for rubalizer donations after this

2:25:56 Don't you agree? Yep. Okay, uh two I don't actually have an explosion sound effect Do you have it an explosion sound effects? If i can find the other little sound effect device like there is one on... I mean I have a boom crash sound effect but I don't have an explosion I don't think Not, no. That's not even close. Wait wait! No no that's not gonna do. Well I'll try this. Standby 33 33 33 Rubilizer out. Hey no no no no no no no no no no no

2:26:39 Hey! Alright, there you go. Okay... uh... You're up No I just read this one You're Up Sir Hebe Really? I thought i just read Jeremy Gray in Owasso, Oklahoma. Sir Hebe of Hogtown 20166 Hi fellas! It's been a while but have an excuse... I had a ruptured brain aneurysm last December Well that's not much of an excuse That is a good excuse However not only did I survive But I made it through with no deficits I can walk talk etc and back to work Thanks in part to the Duchess of Jobs Oh Linda Liu nice

2:27:31 Well, we're very happy for you. I asked Karma for my friend Trixie who could use jobs karma but also special karma while dealing with an ex-husband who is suing her to get her to get her young children vaccinated for COVID! She lives in a deep blue state so were hoping for the best. Wow That is... I'm gonna pray for her. That sucks, as always thank you for what you do and God bless Sir Hebe of Hogtown Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Karma. Little goat there, little goat to help out with the suing karma.

2:28:31 and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Yeah! And they really do work you heard it right there the guy had a ruptured brain aneurysm comes back gets the resume from Linda Liu boom he's back in business I love it how The Know Agenda Gitmo Nation helps each other And thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1797. Three more to go until we hit the big 1800, and of course these credits are

2:29:10 real, you can use them anywhere. Hollywood-style credits are recognized which includes IMDB it includes LinkedIn any social media profile or just it may just look very handsome on your letterhead and of course one of those resumes from Linda Liu and we'll be thanking the rest of our donors $50 above in a few minutes but once again congratulations to these associate and executive producers Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Real World Hmm. Okay, alrighty. Huh?

CHAPTER 37 / 45 Discussion

Zoran Mamdani, New York Socialist Fundraising

Zoran Mamdani, a Democratic Socialist of America member and "theater kid," has reached a major fundraising goal in his bid for leadership within the New York Democratic party. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has called for party unity behind Mamdani, whose policies are described by critics as toxic and far-left.

zoran mamdani· aoc· dsa· new york city· bernie sanders· socialism

2:30:00 What do you got? You got anything good? How about Mandani, let's take the disc and get it out of the way. Let's do a little Mondami. Let's catch up with Mondami in Brooklyn. Mom... is it...? Let's get it right. Momdani. Momdani? Momdani! They're afraid of Mr. Mondani becoming an example to what can happen all over this country Communists and socialists alike are taking over the Democrat party as Bernie Sanders and Zoran Mamdani team up to push their far-left message in New York City tonight. Mamdani is causing headaches for the rest of the Democrats with his toxic policies, but Mamdani hit his fundraising goal and is loaded with cash as he seems ready to take over the party

2:30:44 Well, folks. You've done it again! We can't take any more of your money. Truly you need to stop Thanks to you we raised the maximum amount of money we could spend in this race $8 million dollars Well now AOC is calling out the rest of her party for not falling in line and endorsing Momdani I am very concerned about the example that is being set by anybody in our party. And so, for the good of the party we must put our differences aside and support our party's nominee. Yeah, support my acting colleague! Yeah, exactly. The two actors together... When we were talking to our friends in Austin you know they lived in New York for a long long time even though he just worked remotely and they had completely forgotten about AOC because I said who's running Mum Don? He had Democrat Socialist of America okay cuz he's theater kid. He is? So yes oh just like AOC and like what do you mean she auditioned for the job

2:31:49 She auditioned, she did? What'd you think she just came out from the bar and all of a sudden was a congresswoman. No! I'm surprised how many people don't know anything Don't know anything exactly They don't know anything Don't know nothing Yeah Alright keep going Oh well I could almost do a clip blitz but I'm not gonna pull it down Let's go to another one this is right up your alley This is the China New Moon threat Is it new moonies Senate lawmakers... No, no. I was gonna get out though it'd be great! Moonies! Senate lawmakers say that maintaining the lead over China in space is not just a race but a matter of US national security. NTD correspondent Jason Blair reports We are in a new space race with China and if we fail there will be a bad moon on the rise Oh please What's this?

2:32:48 It's critical to our future economic and national security. During a Senate hearing examining the race in space, the main theme was that the U.S must maintain leadership over China If they get there first we will see global realignment that will impact our economy our tax base, our ability to innovate and our national security in terms of diplomacy and geopolitics that will affect security and many other aspects of daily lives. It is clear to me that the Chinese Communist Party is already employing its own integrated grand strategy for the Earth-Moon system with only superficial distinction between civil commercial and national security activities

CHAPTER 38 / 45 Discussion

Lunar Space Race, China vs NASA Bureaucracy

Senate lawmakers expressed concern that China's "integrated grand strategy" for the Earth-Moon system poses a threat to U.S. economic and national security. Senator Tim Sheehy questioned whether NASA's current bureaucracy is capable of maintaining space dominance in the 21st century as China moves to establish a permanent presence on the moon.

nasa· china· moon· space race· tim sheehy· national security

2:31:49 She auditioned, she did? What'd you think she just came out from the bar and all of a sudden was a congresswoman. No! I'm surprised how many people don't know anything Don't know anything exactly They don't know anything Don't know nothing Yeah Alright keep going Oh well I could almost do a clip blitz but I'm not gonna pull it down Let's go to another one this is right up your alley This is the China New Moon threat Is it new moonies Senate lawmakers... No, no. I was gonna get out though it'd be great! Moonies! Senate lawmakers say that maintaining the lead over China in space is not just a race but a matter of US national security. NTD correspondent Jason Blair reports We are in a new space race with China and if we fail there will be a bad moon on the rise Oh please What's this?

2:32:48 It's critical to our future economic and national security. During a Senate hearing examining the race in space, the main theme was that the U.S must maintain leadership over China If they get there first we will see global realignment that will impact our economy our tax base, our ability to innovate and our national security in terms of diplomacy and geopolitics that will affect security and many other aspects of daily lives. It is clear to me that the Chinese Communist Party is already employing its own integrated grand strategy for the Earth-Moon system with only superficial distinction between civil commercial and national security activities

2:33:28 all focused on a common purpose. Senator Tim Sheehy questions whether NASA needs to make adjustments in order to stay ahead of the game and I'm very concerned that the bureaucracy of NASA, which i love NASA, I am supporter but we have to be honest with ourselves is the bureaucracy of NASA positioned to give us space dominance in 21st century? What in the world does this?! We went to the moon six times seven times... Seven I mean, how many more times are you going to be talking this? Oh we can't do it. China... It's pretty funny. Used to be the Russians. They got Sputnik. This is just really really... I thought you'd like that clip! Yeah it's like we've all forgotten when went to the moon.

CHAPTER 39 / 45 Discussion

Congressional Stock Trading Ban, Government Shutdown Threats

A bipartisan group of lawmakers is pushing for a vote to ban members of Congress from trading stocks while in office. Simultaneously, the threat of a government shutdown looms as Democrats and Republicans struggle to reach an agreement on funding legislation, likely resulting in another short-term continuing resolution.

congress· stock trading· government shutdown· continuing resolution· appropriation bills

2:34:23 It's piling on, it is. Here is an interesting little story since you were giving me the floor. Let us play this first. Stock trade? Did you know that there was going to be a government shutdown I thought the big beautiful bill took care of that! Yeah its confusing for me too because now they need basically new what is it continuing resolution just to keep it going? The clip is stock trading A bipartisan group of lawmakers has given House leadership until the end of September to vote on a bill that would ban members of Congress from trading in stocks. It is time for Congress to act, it is time for the leadership of Congress on both sides of the aisle to do what the American people have been demanding

2:35:03 Which is to end day trading by members of Congress. They do not send us here to enrich ourselves While we are voting on the issues they send us here to fix and address And then have members who are trading stocks on the very issues They're supposed to be voting on The clock is also ticking ungovernment funding Democrats have threatened with a government shutdown unless Republicans who control the house and the Senate reach a bipartisan agreement with Democrats We had an opening conversation last week about the importance of trying to find common ground where possible. in order to meet the needs of the American people. But in that conversation, I also made clear we're not going to support partisan funding legislation period full stop. The Senate has already reached a bipartisan agreement on three out of the 12 appropriation bills and the House has passed two but at a partisan line Congress will likely opt for continuing resolution to avoid a government shutdown This is so tiring

2:36:06 How many times? 20 times have we heard this that we've been to... At least. Oh, getting down on the wire! The government's gonna shut down! Checks won't go out! But I thought it was all covered by the big beautiful bill?! I guess not I don't know. I've lost control of this one. I'll dive in, and I'll have information...I get information for you on Thursday. I don't know what this is. New information will come to light? It will yes. This is troubling. All right let's keep up with Chicago. This Trump vs Chicago so we can see what's going on with Chicago. Chicago okay we kind of did that earlier but let's see. Yeah I should have brought it in earlier

CHAPTER 40 / 45 Discussion

National Guard in New Orleans, Crime and Woke Management

President Trump has suggested that New Orleans could be the next city to receive a National Guard deployment to combat rising crime, following similar proposals for Chicago and Baltimore. While Louisiana's Republican governor supports the move, local officials in the "woke" city are reportedly resistant to federal intervention.

new orleans· national guard· crime· jeff landry· deportations

2:36:53 President Trump on social media today threatened Chicago with apocalyptic force. This is a redundant clip, forget it kill it. Very redundant yes. Redundant clip I should have played earlier. I'm deleting it right now delete Well here's... you don't have to do that. Oh too late! Let's go with this one then this is kind of where I think things are headed they're not gonna go to Chicago they're gonna go to New Orleans and let's play this because crime in New Orleans. President Trump says New Orleans could be next in line for a National Guard deployment to fight crime. Trump is also floating the same idea for Chicago and Baltimore, he says Louisiana's Republican governor is urging him to send in law enforcement to help police the state's largest city but local officials in New Orleans don't appear to be on board with the plan But wait doesn't have to be the governor?

2:37:47 Did she say? Yeah, it would be the governor. If the governor asked for it then he can send in National Guard isn't that how it works if you said right so he's okay so we locals are bitching and moaning they don't like anything well they're very woke in New Orleans because so woke during COVID did you know that yeah I understood it yeah they got really super woke there were some friends of ours who are younger surprising here in Fredericksburg They, initially they wanted to move to New Orleans. They were all in on it and then because they've been to New Orleans a lot and vacation there and they loved it and love the food. A nice town is fun that just food is good but the management of that city sucks. It's horrible! Horrible? Well that would be a good one

2:38:32 So, you know all in time for the midterms the president can show. Ah look at what's going on here! You know we could have done it Chicago. But they were resistant they didn't like us. Bring in the War Department I love the smell of deportation in the morning wait don't we have an ISO that? Should have an ISO of that We should have that I said. I love the smell of deportations in the morning. It's something about reading it makes it good. I love the smell of deportations and the morning is pretty good. Here's a very interesting clip this my FBI BS armed public bloopers from a vlogger. Freaking huge armed citizens stopped 40

2:39:19 the I times higher than FBI's reported 3.7% average and again with even more Americans getting armed post 2020 just last year alone in 2024 civilians stopped half of all criminal shooters yet as I just stated the FBI recorded zero of them you might be asking how is this possible?

CHAPTER 41 / 45 Discussion

Armed Citizens and FBI Statistics, Vlogger Critique

A discussion on crime reporting highlights a discrepancy between FBI data and independent reports regarding how often armed citizens stop criminal shooters. The hosts also critique the "vlogger" format on YouTube, where creators provide commentary over mainstream media clips, often making the original content unusable.

fbi· crime statistics· armed citizens· youtube· vloggers

2:38:32 So, you know all in time for the midterms the president can show. Ah look at what's going on here! You know we could have done it Chicago. But they were resistant they didn't like us. Bring in the War Department I love the smell of deportation in the morning wait don't we have an ISO that? Should have an ISO of that We should have that I said. I love the smell of deportations in the morning. It's something about reading it makes it good. I love the smell of deportations and the morning is pretty good. Here's a very interesting clip this my FBI BS armed public bloopers from a vlogger. Freaking huge armed citizens stopped 40

2:39:19 the I times higher than FBI's reported 3.7% average and again with even more Americans getting armed post 2020 just last year alone in 2024 civilians stopped half of all criminal shooters yet as I just stated the FBI recorded zero of them you might be asking how is this possible?

2:40:16 Okay, so first of all the term vlogger that is no longer a thing. I don't know why you called this YouTube. Put it down just to remind me that was some independent news girl. No, that's not a news girl! This is a YouTuber. She's a vlogger then she was a vlogger. She's a YouTuber and you can sit on YouTube all day and get

2:40:59 My favorite is people say, this is a pretty good breakdown. Look at this video and there's a YouTube video and it's actually some video report from mainstream media which is good now I'm listening to the report and then whoops all of a sudden a little window appears in the right-hand side and the person there going yeah this okay listen to this. It's unusable! The tech grouch does this sort of thing. The tech grouch is dead I tried to revive him, the tech grouch is six feet under. Nobody likes that guy. The tech grouch was great, that's your exit strategy and no! No. Yeah it wasn't meant to be. That was basically the Swedish chef of technology It was a perfect deal. So now I'm going to finish with these two ads. Ads?

CHAPTER 42 / 45 Discussion

NPR Podcast Ads, Throughline Credit Roll

The hosts mock the promotional ads for NPR podcasts like "Life Kit" and "Ye Gods," using AI tools to replicate the network's signature "boop-boop" music beds. They also play the extensive credit roll for the podcast "Throughline," contrasting the large number of staff members involved in public radio productions with their own lean operation.

npr· podcasts· lifekit· throughline· 11 labs· ai music

2:41:49 Yeah, these are on NPR. They're NPR people and PBS people who are doing more and more house ads because they don't get you know they're trying to get people to listen to some of this stuff especially the podcasts. NPR in particular is promoting all kinds of screwball podcasts and none of them sound even remotely interesting I'm sure they don't have any audience at all. And so I've got two of them here under NPR And here's the first one says, uh, ad for and it says something I can't read. Leaf kit? Yeah leaf kit! What is it do you mean to write life kits? Yeah, maybe.

2:42:55 Oh my goodness. What? Who listens to that? Well, who would want to listen... what kind of a tease is this? Do you have trouble fitting into your clothes listening to our show? Hey John! You don't know whether you should cook listening to our show?! Did you hear the most recent episode of Life Kits? That was just so... I never listened to Life Kits. Leafkit it's called leaf kit actually. Well life kit leaf kid i don't care i don't listen Why would you And that boom, boom, boom. It's royalty free music made by AI. So here is the other ad they are playing a lot of this is you'd like to see as religious podcast? Oh yeah I'm sure I'll love it there you go! It's called Ye God or something like that which is...

2:43:47 Yeah, it was just insulting actually I think. So this is the Ye God podcast listen to this... Life is a mystery for those of faith or no faith ye gods with Scott Carter is the podcast that makes sense of how we make sense of life each week We talk to celebrities scholars and mere mortals to unearth what on earth we believe in what we don't Listen to ye gods with Scott Carter part of the NPR network wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, not gonna listen to that one Here I just put into 11 labs I said make an NPR style music bed no vocal sounds like pom-pom-pom pom pom pom pom Let's see if it can do it for me Maybe maybe we might hit upon a gem and we can sell it to NPR okay? It's creating the intro

2:44:39 Here we go. Come on, give me the boom-boom-boom-boom! Oh this is horrible... Ah you suck. Can't believe I spent 10 credits on that Well I think you did? I think it was ten credits. Get a free account So the uh so i think LifeKit I think this is their credit roll You have to go up to the top of the list The credit roll I think this is the credit row for show that probably just has a couple interviews Wait a minute wait LifeKit has a credit role I believe this is it. That's it for this week show, I'm Randabdh Dutta. I'm Ram... What? What's her name?!

2:45:17 That's it for this week show. I'm Randab Didfathah, I'm Ramtin Adablouie and you've been listening to Throughline from NPR. This episode was produced by me and me and Laurence Wu Julie Kane Anya Steinberg Casey Miner Christina Kim Devin Katayama Sarah Wyman Lina Muhammad Irene Noguchi Thanks to Tony Cavan, James Heider, Daniel Estrin, Greta Pittinger, Johannes Derghi, Punit Matiwala, Nina Pucholsky, Edith Chapin and Colin Campbell.

2:45:57 Voice over work in this episode was done by Devin Schwartz, Casey Morrell and Nick Neves. Back checking for this episode was done by Kevin Vocal This episode was mixed by Gilly Moon Music for this episode was composed by Ramtin and his band Drop Electric which includes Anya Mizani Navid Marvi Sho Fujiwara And finally if you have any idea or like something that you heard on the show write us at throughline at npr dot org Thanks for listening. Here's an idea, how about less people working on your podcast? That's wow! Well we have Clip Custodian, Clip Collector We got Jay, we got Jay, Dave Ackerman, Mimi in the background Yes, we have our artists, we have our end of show mixer, we've got one but playing three

CHAPTER 43 / 45 Discussion

Final Donor Thank Yous, Birthday Wishes

The final segment of the show is dedicated to thanking the remaining donors and acknowledging birthday wishes for Adam Curry. The hosts discuss various donation ideas, including selling printed clip lists or AI-generated images, and note the continued support from the "Gitmo Nation" through both fiat and Bitcoin.

value for value· donations· birthday· bitcoin· peerage

2:46:52 Well, we have a lot. And you know what? If you add all our producers our credit roll is much longer! I'm gonna show my school by donating to the Agenda... Why are we complaining?! Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab! Yeah! No agenda! Morning! I don't think we should be complaining because our credit roll is longer Yeah but we don't have such screwy names By the way, okay. Got a donation idea from TheRealCalvin33 I'm not sure why Jay put this on my list but... I told her to Okay So this was very interesting Donation idea Sell- Okay that's not a donation Sell your- That is true This is not a donation Sell your printed clip lists that would be yours I guess after each show Auction maybe? And can I have last shows lists

2:47:48 Well, you put it on there so you take it away John. Well I wanted...I put it on there because I wanted you to give me some input on this idea because I told him that's an interesting idea but who the hell wants this clip list? Nobody wants your clip list! Well he says somebody does and he wants to let show 96 I guess it was Here is a donation idea Sell a picture of John in his Speedos with his Crocs on a chaise lounge in the studio Now that something I'd have money for Yeah, you would but I don't have Crocs. You never had crocs? I don't wear Speedos and I haven't got a chaise lounge. So do I have to go buy all this stuff or we have AI make the image? Think of it as an investment Investment in what? Picture of a doofus Invest in the show man! Invest in the show Alright

2:48:42 Well, we do have of course have our coveted tip of the day on the way and if show makes his meetup reports And John is going to thank the rest of our supporters for episode 1797 $50 and above Yeah starting with Baroness Knight who just got upgraded. She's in Edmonds Washington came with 150 bucks She's now a Viscountess ah nice yes she gets a title upgrade I think yeah does yep beautiful And so she bumped off the top of the list, our regular Dame Rita in Sparks Nevada who comes in 10907. We appreciate you Dame Rita! You're getting up there she's got to be going... Yeah she's probably a Viscountess by now She should check. You should check your... Shes been donating consistently show after show after show for the last year Check your levels

2:49:30 Check your levels. Especially if you have an old Jaguar, check those things out. Daniela Pompoo in Los Angeles 100 bucks and that's a happy birthday donation! Oh thank you And she's got a birthday so we'll put her on the list. Eric in Auburn Alabama 100 Here we get all these reversals again this is strange Sir Eric, and I just did him. Sir Andrew Gardner in Leonardtown Maryland 9325 and that's a happy birthday this is the 9 3 2 5 donations and there are two of them! James Shelley is the other one from Grand Forks North Dakota Thank you 93 25 Kevin McLaughlin comes in with 8008 By the way did you see what Andrew Gardner says?

2:50:26 He says, I never lived in New York. I was wrong! I guess it's Richard Gardner... There is a Gardner somewhere in New York Yeah the one that keeps saying lives in New York You're the one who says Andy lives in New York I must be wrong, I must be wrong Well you must be Must be You musty Kevin McLaughlin he's the Arshtooka Luna lover of America and lover of melons 8008 Syrup as in syrup Lake Forest Park 7777 Adam, you found your exit strategy. Jesus! That's right that's my way out of here. Get outta here! He says John you're next. Join us in the exit strategy John. You'll enjoy it. Where is the money?

2:51:16 Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75 Mason Strong in Cochrane Alberta Canada Well, that's the first time from that area. This is $104 in Canadian dollar Ritz and he says avoid TRT if possible Oh, he's got a long lecture about testosterone replacement therapy Yeah He actually says if you vape nicotine you probably your testosterone is fine. That was interesting I'm gonna get the tests they'll find out

2:51:54 Well, we get to test it beside the point what he had to say. Well no but I just want to know if that's true then i should have perfect tea? Oh that's a good point yeah then you did nothing to complain about What if its not true what if you've been smoking nicotine and then you still have low T? What then? Mason Strong is going to give you more information He says hormone replacement is a lifelong lifetime commitment to big pharma Start with good sleep vitamin vitamins and exercise first I could exercise more that's for sure well who can't I Walk, I walk three times a day with the dog. That's my Michael Edmund in Brookings South Dakota And that's these are happy birthdays. I'm gonna read names and locations these are all people saying happy birthday Adam

2:52:49 And except for, I would have to say Stephen and Ruby. Stephen and a ruby in Pine Bluff Arkansas who's also saying happy belated birthday. Oh no is that belated? These are all belated. Momentum Finance LLC in Eden Utah. There you go. Amy Harmon in Asheville North Carolina. Gordon Walton in Austin where you was just there that's Baron David Duke whatever is Stern Myers it's a Steinmeier he's in Lakeview Michigan and this is switcheroo donating on behalf of my wife Alexandra Hill

2:53:31 Hilliker, hilliker. She needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched! And last...a couple more on these David Cox and he's also in Austin you get we got Austin covered. Teresa dump what? Oh Teresa Dempster Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo California 6161 which is be Birthday birthday birthday birthday Sarah Gardner in Wilmington, North Carolina 61 and these are all 61s Rob Baron in Leiden Douglas

2:54:13 Oh, Engstrom. Engstrom in Sandy Lake Pennsylvania. Ah look a Bitcoin donation He's got a title change That's not bitcoin Blue is not bitcoin? No it's purple It's bitcoin. No, bitcoin is purple Title change and accounting becomes Sir Douglas Engstrom becomes baronet of the French Creek Crick I'm sorry French Crick Valley He gives a pronunciation. Yeah blue stripe. French Crick Valley okay Got it Blue Stripe you'll find all your Bitcoin donations go to the very bottom of the list and you'll find most people are giving us 10 cents, 20 cents. I don't know what that is. I think even 3 cents... 1 cent yes Yeah it's big spenders. Yeah that's the bitcoin people. Michael Ragusa in Tustin They're hodling man! They're hodling they don't want to spend their bitcoin on us. Well that was what i suspected R David Weicker in Jacksonville Wicker

2:55:07 Do I keep saying Wiker? Yes, that would be with a Y maybe. I don't know how you get Wiker! That's Sir by his grace he is a knight. I plead guilty. Yes. Sir Beeboop, he is in New Brighton Minnesota and that's a happy birthday to you again. Gerald Preston in Bennington, New Nebraska Sean Murray in Warrenville, Illinois. Go Bears! Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota. Nuts and that's the end of our well-wishers which is still a few more we had quite a few total so they're all saying happy birthday Adam Les Tarkowski in Kingman Arizona 6006 Steve Banstra he's in Nashville 6993 Pilot SERS BNA

2:56:04 Dame Nancy, she's in San Bruno over here and she has a note. She came in with 55 and she says donate it helps the show and is good for your soul! Yes Troy Funderburk in Missoula, Montana 55. I liked the way these if you notice that the US states have been reversed again re-reversed and now we're back to the oddball Eric so that was a check So that was put improperly the rest of these are it's weird not to ask what happened Eric Johnson in Vienna West Virginia 52 72 Josiah Thomas

2:56:44 in Ankeny, Iowa 51. Now we got the $50 donors so I'll just read them off. $50 donors starting with Alex Zavala and he's... Sir Alex? He is in Kiley Texas Kyle Sir Alex Stephen Ray in Spokane, Jacob or Jacob Rotremel one of those names. And he's in Decatur Illinois and Edwin Misurik is in Memphis Tennessee. Haven't heard from him for a while. Ray Howard in Kremlin Colorado and last on our list of well-wishers and supporters and producers is Kerry Jackson

2:57:29 in Watertown, Tennessee. You want to thank all these folks for making show 1797! the reality that has become. And thank you especially to these $50 donors, I love seeing you and the 61s thank y'all for the birthday wishes it's much appreciated anybody can support the show any way you want time talent or treasure go to noagendadonations.com any amount anytime you want whatever the value received from the show send it back to us and you can become a sustaining donor by supporting us with a recurring donation any amount in your frequency no agendas donations Well, it's gonna be another short one. Daniela Pompe, P-O-M-P-E belated happy birthday to her she celebrated on August 30th so we say happy belated birthday from everybody here at the best podcast at the universe!

CHAPTER 44 / 45 Discussion

Peerage Upgrades, No Agenda Meetups

The hosts announce title upgrades for several listeners who reached new aggregate donation levels. They also promote upcoming "No Agenda" meetups in the Netherlands, British Columbia, and various U.S. cities, emphasizing the importance of building local networks of "first responders" and community support.

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2:58:26 Title changes, turn it faceless ladies. Title changes! So we have two, we have Baroness Knight now becomes Viscountess Knight and Sir Douglas Engstrom becomes Sir Douglas Engstrom Baronet of the French Creek. Both thanks to the additional $1,000 in aggregate that you supported The Best Podcast In The Universe with We appreciate you for all that And we do have one Secretary General to celebrate today All hail to the Secretary General Cause they are the ones who need help to the Secretary Generals

2:59:08 And that Secretary General is James Dumont and he becomes the Attorney, she says Attorney General but it's Secretary General of the Gen Xers. Go to noagendarings.com you'll be able to get your attestation in the mail and congratulations as a Secretary General at The No Agenda Show! All hail to the Secretary Generals, cause they are the ones who need ha- All hail to the Secretary Generals! No agenda show! And... time for the meetups. NO AGENDA MEETUPS

2:59:53 We got a couple left in September actually we have a couple this week We've got one today that is well underway in the Netherlands our first head village forest meetup That was at dock camping Haarlemmermeersebos in hoofdorp, Noord-Holland in the Netherlands. I expect to meet up report from you guys tomorrow and not very often we get one on Monday. The Kootenay Mountains & Rivers meet up 333 p.m Pacific Time, the Dam Restaurant and Bar in South Slocan British Columbia I expect a Meetup report from you as well Still to come in the month of September Keyport New Jersey Oakland California John will be there Charlotte North Carolina Tilburg in the Netherlands Bedford Texas Fort Wayne Indiana Indianapolis Indiana We're hoping that Dame Maria and Sir Mark will back

3:00:42 And of course we got two Texas meetups in October on the list so far Johnson City on the 10th and right down the road about 45 minutes here in Fredericksburg on the 11th at J6 or Jenny's place. I'll be there along with Tina, The Keeper and many other luminaries from the Fredericksburg area go to knowagentomeetups.com find out how you can get protection From the connection you get at these meetups, you will meet the people who are the first responders in your life. You need this and once you go to one, you can't stop! NoagendaMeetups.com if you can't find one near you start one yourself!

CHAPTER 45 / 45 Discussion

BizToc Tip of the Day, Show Outro

The show concludes with the "Tip of the Day," featuring BizToc.com, a business news aggregator and scraping operation backed by Mark Cuban. The hosts sign off with their traditional "Crackpot and Buzzkill" personas, followed by a series of end-of-show music mixes and classic audio clips.

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3:01:23 You wanna be where you want to be. Drink it all, hell's a lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. It's just like a party everybody! Alright I have one two three four...you have one. Do you want me to play mine first? Yeah please That's it. It's a wrap. It's over Okay That's one. The best! The best, the best, the best, the best Alex keeps on giving man Okay Boomer And my final one is a classic that we already played I love the smell of deportations in the morning Eh it's not too bad

3:02:07 What are you I'm gonna put mine off to next show because I like the Alex Jones one so much The best the best the best the best the best and now before we get to that end of show mixes it's time for John's tip of the day And sometimes Well, here's a... I'm at the point where in the rotation right have to find a good website that people should put on their list of things to visit constantly and this is for the CEOs wanna be CEOs people interested into business and finance. Finance. Investors

3:02:52 that type of person. And I think it's AI that does this, there is no other way. It's a massive scraping operation that is pretty phenomenal to be honest about it and they've got some good code so when you hover over things all kinds of action takes place. It's a site called BizTalk as in table of contents B-I-Z T O C dot com. BizTalk is a killer site. Hold on, something must be wrong because I get a parking page. B-I-Z-Z or 1z? biztoc dot com Okay, I got it. Whoa! Whoa... There's a lot here Scroll down Scrolling down Yeah Wow there's a lot of This is like a show prep page

3:03:51 Yeah, exactly. Wow there's a lot going on here. This is a scraping operation It's a it is a hell of a scraping operation believe me man I think its borderline probably illegal Well they have a legal statement here hmm their registered trademark of tomatic ink Okay Yeah, maybe it's overseas. I'm not sure what they're doing but this is pretty phenomenal It's a great website people would you get a kick out of it? It's good for your morning briefing and going into the office You sit down and got what are gonna do here today And he'd go you catch up with everything on this website so did you look at the aboot page oh

3:04:37 Actually, I did not look at the about page. I am Thomas Marban and I created BizTalk official successor of the infamous web 2.0 phenomenon pop URLs after building award-winning news aggregators for two decades biz talk is the ultimate attempt in delivering the entire business world on a single page and check this biz talk is proudly crafted in Austria and backed by American entrepreneur Mark Cuban No, how about that? Well then you know then you know it's legit Mark Cuban so if you're gonna sue anybody mark Cubans your deep pockets and there it is everybody the tip of the day find them all a tip of the day Doc Matt And sometimes

3:05:28 Created by Dana Brunetti. Well, Mark Cuban he sure has his fingers in all the pies doesn't he? BizTalk...BizTalk Could we have a better name? Yeah it could be a better name Especially if you type in biztalk with a K then your screwed They should get that domain problem That's why I said table of contents is what they're referring to Yeah I understand I'm an idiot Just letting you know. Two idiots, five cameras. That's right. Okay, boom. End of show mixes from Joseph Grillo! That's a brand new one we got classic Clip Custodian and Tom Starkweather classics all of them We're looking for more end-of-show mixes come on guys whatcha doing? Get on the stick

3:06:15 And Canary Cry News Talk is next on the No Agenda stream if you feel like hanging out in your modern podcast app or noagendastream.com and we return on Thursday with more media deconstruction for you who knows what will happen? We might be invading New Orleans Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country where we won the Powerball! In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm going to go to Amazon and order my pink salt. I'm John C. Dvorak. We're boomers and you're a dipshit

3:07:25 Let me just tell you this is not gonna get any better. We don't get any cheap money. This is the Boomer Benefit, boomer talk on display. You know when I watch people with boomers and spiffy jeans on their heads? What's worse than two boomers on a podcast is two boomers on a video podcast! That's the worst! Can you imagine that?! I'm the real boomer. The two of us combined is a hundred years plus. You see now why we have boomer benefits? Kamikaze drones, kamikaze drones... These are lethal drugs! Kamikaze drones

3:08:29 These are lethal drugs. Kamikaze drones, kamikaze drones. Oh me? Yes you! Pedaling in half-truths pedaling in false statements peddling in... Look Theories that, you know, create doubt about whether or not things that we know are safe are unsafe. You frighten people in a gobsmacking statement of irresponsibility. Almost all the members of this panel including yourself are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry

3:09:20 No, no. I thought that would work. Are you supportive of these onesies? I'm supportive of vaccines You are going to do such a solid job for the people of this country How long does it keep going at some time? You're just batter in the witness battering the whistles. Yes, you are and you're getting excited. You're going at him just like anybody else The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N A The best! The best! The best! The best!