Douchebags

00:01 Fabulous! Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's March 4th, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 179-er. This is no agenda. Exposing an international cabal of douchebags and coming to you from the 17th century canal house crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation lowlands in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, under siege of the United States of Europe, in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley here in the middle of Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, I know, but I thought you were ready. Look, it's already 9.09, 9.09 in the morning. In the morning to you, John. And in the morning I would say, by the way, last week Shaw was listening to it, for at least the first couple of minutes. And the delay was so bad. I know, it really was. It wouldn't be a bad thing to cut a little bit once in a while, you know what I'm saying? No, I don't, you know, it doesn't matter because we're just out of sync in that case. And it's amazing because now, you know, I'm at the 17th Century Canal House in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.

01:16 You sound fantastic, the stream is pumping out at 64 kilobits, and I'll knock on wood. Why do you think that is? Why when you're, especially when you're in San Francisco, which I can actually look out the window and if I had a slingshot I could probably poke you in the head with it. I don't know what it is. And you know I do have I have, um, so you got Time Warner Cable, the Roadrunner meet-meet service. And I have 12 megabits down. I've got 1 megabit up. So it has nothing to do with the megabitage. So it must be, uh, packet shaping or something like that, which I don't think they're doing here.

01:59 It's gotta be something like that, I can't think of anything else. Because you know, I have bandwidth meters, I've got, you know, pings going on to make sure the stuff doesn't go down. I mean, I'm looking at everything. And I'm on an Apple Airport Express modem or router here, so it's not like anything special, you know? I think it's cosmically you're being told to stay in Europe. It's better for the show, you know. I'm being told to shut up, slave. You know, I don't like your cosmic deduction. I don't want to stay in Europe. It is really bad here. Besides it being... The infrastructure is so much better! Yeah, besides it being colder than the proverbial witch's tit. It's unbelievable. Well, you know, you could go down the street

02:52 and say hi to one of our new knights. Are we knighting someone today? We're knighting two people. I thought we were only doing that on Sundays. I decided to... Wait a minute, you made an executive decision without me? I decided that because we forgot to knight somebody who was the missing knight who showed up, that we can't just keep putting him off. Okay, so since he was going to be knighted anyway, and we have a new knight who has a long-winded email And apparently became a knight because he was just to prove. He's not a douchebag and by the way I will have to for anybody in and actually also Paul t There's a couple just give Paul t some ideas for his art as we do this show We're gonna probably talking about douchebags too much because it seems that this has become a major meme Amongst our list all the fun of it

03:45 and uh... uh... we're probably in a time when his guess we're gonna talk about uh... the earthquake in uh... taiwan piazza think and i got a couple of things and i got a few more i had to say it normally said i was i'm going to start sending them note before hand so you get some of his art which by the way people auditioned update that careful attention to the house and then we've lost touch with them who is our other artwork another artist Yeah, we have some bad names. Yeah, we really do. Why don't we do the executive producers and we'll take it all the way through the night who is just to get a roll. All right, well let's do one of the executive producers is obviously going to be one of the knights. So we have two executive producers this week. Knight Rene Schwertz, S-W-E-R-T-Z from Harlem. Harlem. Harlem, yeah, not far away, right.

04:40 So he's one, R-E-N-E-S-W-E-R-T-Z, and I'm assuming Renee, of course, is a male name in Holland. Yes. It could be both, but I'm just going to presume he's a sir and not a lady. Although we have more of the women listeners than a tech show would. Which is good news. Yeah, it is about time. We should do a show on fashion just to have a hold of it. Hey, you know what? I saw this documentary called The September Issue. Have you ever heard of this? It's about Anna Wintour. I saw that documentary. It's fantastic. It's awesome. Fantastic! That woman runs the entire fashion industry.

05:21 You know, and the funny thing is, you know, the that that Condé Nast and that book, by the way, that September issues like a thousand pages and they put a lot of money into and they have a huge budget and a magazine with a big budget that does very well. It's a very well produced product, one of the greatest magazines in the world. I agree. And so they so Condé Nast sells out to this this these schlock meisters. And who's that? Who would they sell out to? Advance. So, Advance is not, these are one of these publishing, there's a bunch of these publishing companies that are second tier and third tier, and they, because of the way the economics are today, they've leveraged into buying all these expensive operations that they really can't afford to run because they're schlockmeisters. And I remember when Cardinal published in one of these types of businesses,

06:13 I used to do a friend of mine down the street, he was the executive editor of Electronic Musician, Cardinal, brought them out. He says, yeah, Cardinal Publishing, you know, their motto, cheap, cheap. So anyway, so Advance buys them and immediately they start cutting the budgets and they start cutting the budget of Wind Tower. And I just can't imagine what's going on over there because she is not going to put up with this and she's gonna walk, the magazine's gonna be screwed. Anyway, so well that's how that's our Adam and John C. Dvorak fashion moment for the ladies amongst us We've done very well haven't we? All right, let's move on with our second executive producer Adam Miller $333 and 33 cents where we've allowed that anyone gives that amount of money to become executive producer no matter what and if they get if you donate it three times we kick in the extra penny for the knighthood

07:06 Yep, and he's from Perryville, Missouri. Missouri. That's right. That's how you got to pronounce it. That's correct. How about associate executive producers? Anyone? Yeah, we got a couple. Although I'm looking at my rundown list here. We got Steven and I have to go to the notes because they're separate. You know, you show up late. You give me some song and dance about your ink. The ink? Yeah, this is the problem. I can barely read this thing. Well, say fabulous again fabulous Thank you. That's perfect. Let me just use at the beginning of the show. Yeah, I think so I think that's perfect I do I do one of the better ones. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I know what to say

07:54 Yeah, it is. Okay, Steven. It's Steven. I have to go back to these notes because he puts his pronunciation in there because it's G-U-E-R-R-E-R-I which you'd pronounce... Wait a minute, G-U-E-R-R-E-R-I and it's Stefan, S-T-E-P-H-E-N. Oh, Stefan. Yeah. Okay. Which is usually pronounced Steven here in this USA. Guillory, Guillory, I would say. Guillory? Gary Gary Gary Gary I would have pronounced a Gary but okay so he gave us 200 bucks and

08:39 And he has a note, love the show, would like to see you guys keep it going. I'm also trying to earn extra money so I can quit my day job. Please mention my website. He has a thing called, which is curious because I have a column called Inside Track, but he has a product called Inside Track and his product is, and the website is NSIDE Track, like Inside Track without the I dot com. And it's a system to, to code your laptop in such a way that if it gets stolen it could be tracked down. Oh, and then the headmaster can also look at the pills you're popping through the webcam. Cool system. If you're lucky. Let's see. Steven Stephan Guerreri. Right? Yeah. And... Move it along here, John. That's it. Oh, okay. I thought I had two, but I only have one that I can find. Okay, before we get to the knighthoods then,

09:35 I have a couple of PR associates, quick ones. Oh good. Yeah, it's okay. You know, it's okay. This is Lee Brown. Hey Adam and John, please find attached clips of promotion I've been doing on a weekly student radio show all across Gitmo Nation, East United Kingdom. I was hoping to be able to do several more and send them all at once, but due to situations out of my control, i.e. the government mucked up my student loans so I'll be coming homeless on Friday and won't have an internet connection. I thought I would send what I have so far. When I get some more, a place to live and web access, I'll be joining you again. So hopefully you can still...

10:15 He can still hear his little ditty here. It's kind of funny, listen to it. Shall we say goodbye now? I think we'll play it and say goodbye now. Yeah, that's probably best. Bye Chris. Bye. Have you had fun? Yeah. It's mostly been fun. Nice little chat. It's more fun than I have in the morning, quite frankly. What? It's more fun than I have in the morning, quite frankly. What, the evening? The morning. In the morning. Okay. Moving on. Moving on. I missed that one. I just lost. Tumbleweed was flying through the sky. Yeah, that's dead. Alright. I don't think everyone got what he was doing on the show there, but it was highly appreciated that at least he's doing some good.

10:59 There's also some artwork that Paul Bousamer has been putting, he's a street graffiti artist in college, just moved to San Diego. And I'm going to put these in the show notes somehow. They are absolutely awesome. He's designed them. I have been a big fan of street art for ever since, you know, literally from the 70s and have collected it. Believe it or not, I have a number of panels that were taken down and I garnered and I also had a number of graffiti artists in the late 70s do canvases, large canvases. I had this little house down the hill and I took the whole back fence and put these huge canvases up and had these graffiti guys come over and they each one of them do a piece and I have those. You're such a hippie.

11:46 You're an undercover hippie, aren't you? Tech guru. You're really a hippie, dude. There's nothing really hippie about graffiti. Well, anyway, I will put this in the show notes. I got a downsize and he sent me these huge resolution with the beautiful logo he did with kind of like a kind of a Masonic type of vibe there. And also not that we encourage this, but he seems to have reproduced it on an LA Times newspaper box in front of the Ocean Beach Post Office. Does he have the website? Yeah, it says noagendashow.com right underneath the logo. Okay, he's definitely on our list now. Yeah, he's a PR associate. And then, surprising, we have a celebrity

12:32 PR associates. I want to elaborate on what I really meant and what I really thought of the thing. Jay, you've gone through this too, especially in these last few months. Me? It's like that old saying where a lie can travel halfway around the world before truth even has a chance to get his pants on in the morning. There you go, in the morning. Oh yeah. I have that clip too. I knew you had it. Alright, now very important ladies and gentlemen, we would like Rene Schwartz to please kneel before the panel. Rene Schwartz, I hereby knight thee Sir Rene of the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please enjoy the hookers and blow. He chopped off his head. I did not. And I want to thank

13:33 I want to thank everyone else for donating. So of course, Renee being our executive producer, Adam Miller, also a co-executive producer on the show today, associate executive producer Stephen Guerrieri, we'll get the exact pronunciation of course. And I tell you, last night at a Mickey, Miss Mickey is auctioning off some artwork. And we have another night, don't forget. We have another one? Yeah, that's what I said. That's what we had to have there. I'm so sorry. Can I just finish up my spiel about producers? Yeah, go ahead. And so we were at Christie's where this will be auctioned off and they have an evening where people can go and look at the artwork, look at it up close. And she introduced me to, and of course I've forgotten the guy's name, but he is one of the producers of the original Rocky movies. He's a Dutch guy, but he's lived half his life in

14:28 California and very very I think he's like in the 70s now so he doesn't do anything with production anymore but this guy looked like anybody who donates to this show as a producer as an executive producer could look like successful well-spoken well-dressed and it's and and it just it's his vibe because he has that executive producer status And so it will really get you far in life. And when we get to the donations later on in the show, I will give you some actual success stories of people who have donated to the show who not even necessarily became executive producers. So that's good stuff on the way.

15:06 Okay, so we have the guy that we lost in the shuffle. I'm sorry to say but he's from Canada So, you know him sure they expect that don't be like that to Canadians are okay in my book, but let me just say something to you Canadians out there How do you let here's what here's what listen here's this before we get to this? Okay, here I am I'm up north and I'm watching the CBC because I think it's generally more interesting. Oh, you're in Washington right now. Oh No, I'm not in Washington, in California. I'm watching the end of the Olympics and so they're having all these celebrations and there's people in the streets and there's people jumping up and down, they're talking about it on the local Vancouver version of the CBC local news, blah, blah, blah, they're talking about this and they're talking about that. And they're talking about how the Canadians, the Canadians won the most gold medals and a lot, well they should. But anyway, and then they talked about the great victory in the last second in overtime of the Canadian hockey team over the,

16:04 the evil Americans and everyone was... But they were... This is the CBC, the national network, the entire all of Canada. They were showing zero clips. They showed not one clip. They showed just still photos of this and that because the way it was done, the deal was done, NBC has exclusive video. They can't show anything in their own freaking country. In their own country, the Olympics are in Canada. This is the national network and they can't show a crappy clip? No. And they put up with this? No, they couldn't. And the news guys aren't griping about this constantly? No, because the National Olympic Committees are so powerful. This is the most, this is an extremely powerful group.

16:49 And it's all about commercialism. And every, and you know all this, oh it's our team, it's our country, and blah, no way. It's all about money. That's why I boycotted it. I didn't watch him. Screw it. Well, how could you watch him? He had to tune into crappy NBC coverage. And of course, Letterman would mock it by saying, well here's a clip from the Olympics and then he shows something from the 30s. Great article in the Times, something we hooked into when it came to the The hundred thousand condoms they shipped up there, the title of the article is Sex and the Olympic City. And it talks about, it's true, everyone is boning each other there in the Olympic Village. And it's a really in-depth article and it's like, you know, and it said, you know, go figure, you've got all these amazing looking boys and girls running around in the Olympic Village. They're all pumped up, they've got all kinds of, you know, chemicals running throughout their brain that are generated naturally. And let's also not forget that there's plenty of them who are on steroids.

16:04 the evil Americans and everyone was... But they were... This is the CBC, the national network, the entire all of Canada. They were showing zero clips. They showed not one clip. They showed just still photos of this and that because the way it was done, the deal was done, NBC has exclusive video. They can't show anything in their own freaking country. In their own country, the Olympics are in Canada. This is the national network and they can't show a crappy clip? No. And they put up with this? No, they couldn't. And the news guys aren't griping about this constantly? No, because the National Olympic Committees are so powerful. This is the most, this is an extremely powerful group.

16:49 And it's all about commercialism. And every, and you know all this, oh it's our team, it's our country, and blah, no way. It's all about money. That's why I boycotted it. I didn't watch him. Screw it. Well, how could you watch him? He had to tune into crappy NBC coverage. And of course, Letterman would mock it by saying, well here's a clip from the Olympics and then he shows something from the 30s. Great article in the Times, something we hooked into when it came to the The hundred thousand condoms they shipped up there, the title of the article is Sex and the Olympic City. And it talks about, it's true, everyone is boning each other there in the Olympic Village. And it's a really in-depth article and it's like, you know, and it said, you know, go figure, you've got all these amazing looking boys and girls running around in the Olympic Village. They're all pumped up, they've got all kinds of, you know, chemicals running throughout their brain that are generated naturally. And let's also not forget that there's plenty of them who are on steroids.

17:48 And they're all horny, they're just horny as hell and they're all like humping each other. And there's a bonus, every one of them is a novelty fuck. Exactly, a notch on the belt. But you know, it says here specifically, it doesn't even matter, you don't get laid more if you win a gold medal, it makes no difference. So you don't have to be a medalist to get laid. That's because they're probably all at max. In fact, who wrote this article? And the first in the first paragraph says right here I got that I got laid several times which Which may not sound like a lot in the Olympic Village, but for a 21 year old undergraduate with crooked teeth It was a minor miracle It's like anyone can get laid as long as you're there as long as and you know what I think we need to buy up some rights We need to buy up some Olympic rights in 2012 in London or whatever So we can get laid

18:47 Alright, so our second night of the day our second night who actually should have been knighted by now And we and I we apologize Larry Larry Royke r oik from Burlington, Ontario You may knight him. Okay. Is he ready? Is he is he before us? Yes, he is Larry Royke kneel before the Knights of the no agenda as we now knight thee sir Larry Royke! Please come to the table and enjoy our hookers and blow. I think he chopped off his arms. And it looks like we're really gonna go for the for the rings. I've done a little bit of homework, John. Well let me finish with Larry Royke's little story here. He does have a note. I'm sorry. I'm just saying. We can talk about the rings shortly.

19:42 Okay, the reason that he said the reason I'm interrupting you here because this is right up your alley and I've actually reluctant to even read it, but I will Okay, so here's the crackpot idea says Larry. What if aliens? You know it's always a problem when that sentence begins what if alien you have my attention He has the aliens of course in quotes What if aliens actually created, gave us the general theory of relativity so that we would follow the wrong technological path and therefore never discover faster than light space travel or zero time space travel or solve critical mysteries of the universe, etc. Yeah, that idea is out there.

20:32 No, no, no, no, no. I like it very much for a number of reasons. First of all, that would be the work of the Greys. That's totally what those guys do when it comes to aliens. But ladies and gentlemen, I'm apologizing in advance for not doing this after the later part. No, no, listen to me. And it makes so much sense because it's very... It makes so much sense! It's very actuel as the British Ministry of Defense has decided UFOs are no longer dangerous. They've shut down their UFO hotline. This is hot off the press. This is brand new news. And they are destroying all of the sightings. After 30 days, every UFO report goes into the Bitbucket.

21:12 Reported sightings, I'm quoting now, should be answered by a standard letter and on the advice of corporate memory and the National Archives should be retained for 30 days, then destroyed, largely removing any future freedom of information liability and negating the need to release future files post 30th November 2009, according to the Ministry of Defense of Gitmo Nation East. So it makes sense. I think, Larry, your knighthood is not only paid in full, but it is well deserved. Now, he also has a link which I should send you. Yes. Which is a link to the first test that proves the general theory of relativity wrong. Okay. Great. I like it. But you know, I will say this one thing that people should know that much of the reasoning for the fact that we can't travel faster than the speed of light is based on some of the mathematics of Edwin Mach.

22:08 who was where you get Mach 1, Mach 2, Mach 3, that guy, who said you couldn't take a big object past the speed of sound and had math to prove it. So I've always considered it's possible to go faster than light, but I don't know how. If I did, I wouldn't be on this show. And seeing as what time you showed up this morning... Alright, do you want to just I just wanted to say that briefly I sent out a Twitter After the after the show just as I was getting on the plane to come over to give my nation East Or the lowlands at least and we have several different interpretations and translations for our ring I think we should have a nice no agenda logo. It's a You know it'll be the type of ring that you can imprint into sealing wax or into someone's face and we would have in the morning in Latin which I believe would be in money in money and

23:05 or in my name tempore and then we hit people in the mouth is Firmus in ore play them which I think would look great on a ring are you doing Google translate the huge have all this look we're gonna work we're getting much closer and I've seen some some very interesting designs and I can't wait to hand out these rings to our Knights and as you know in English we have a very simple formula our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up, slave! Right on. Since we already did some aliens, maybe I should wait with the earthquake machine? I mean, do you want to hold off for a second? The earthquake machine's coming up. Yeah, how about the... The distraction of the week. Hey! On Noah's agenda. Look over the...

24:08 So I don't know if everyone has actually heard... So there are two distractions. One was, at least what I heard over here, one was a pilot from a, to me, unknown airline, who had apparently been flying, the way the news reported was, oh he's been flying for 13 years without a license! Well, yeah. Of course he had a license that had expired and he wasn't rated on this typical... Classic. But the guy had been doing a good job, you know, it's like he seemed to be okay. So that was like, you know, it's so scary. And it never comes by itself because then there's the, the letting kids land the planes and do air traffic controlling at JFK. That is the number one distraction of the week. And let me tell you,

24:55 So first of all, it is of course completely against regulations to have anybody, although technically I guess it isn't, but if you don't have a radio transmission license then you shouldn't be transmitting on the radio. However, you can be a student as long as you have a licensed person who is licensed as an instructor, and I don't know if this kid's dad was an instructor or not, and I don't think there's any age limit necessarily for a controller, then it's okay. But also aviation, the radio, that is a big part of what keeps us sane when airmen are flying. We gotta have our little jokes that you always try to slip in something. In fact, I can't wait to hear my first in the morning when I'm getting a crossing somewhere. I'm sure it's gonna happen.

25:42 And although it's always very professional. There's always, you know, always little things going on. We have our secret frequencies we tune to and it's just, it's a part of aviation. And I just want you to listen to the actual audio of the kid, who by the way, does a spectacular job. And every single airman on the frequency immediately gets what's going on. They're getting the correct calls. You know, the kid's father is sitting right next to him and they're all enjoying it. And particularly JFK, Which is, you know, it's a bummer. It's always a bummer there no matter what you're doing. So it brightened up everybody's day. And you can even hear them all kind of laughing and saying, hey, good job. And, you know, it's like this is what aviation is about. It's about bringing people into it, making it interesting. And this is, you know, now it's like, oh, we have to have an inquiry, we have to be fired. Distraction of the week, here it comes.

26:38 Yeah, he says it's what you get when the kids are out of school so they're laughing then you know by the way that could be deemed technically inappropriate even to talk about that on the frequency See they're having a good time Now I for people who travel on United you can turn tune into channel 9 usually sometimes Channel 9 from the flight deck you're right generally in channel 9 I think one planes got on some other channel, but anyway for whatever reason And you can listen to the whole I always listen when we're coming in especially when we're flying around to see when they're gonna actually land the plane

27:28 because you can tell. And they tell you all this. And every once in a while you run into some situation where there's a note of humor. It's not that common, but it does happen. And I think it is appreciated. And I think this story, when I first heard this story, I thought it was like making, you know, this typical, the country and the world has become these you know these bureaucratic, zero tolerance bullshit is what it is. You know, oh my god, the kid has, there's more stories this last week about a kid who has a pill or a kid who, you know, brought a pen knife or a kid who, you know, look cross-eyed and so he's expelled from school. My god, don't tell me there was a kid who looked cross-eyed.

28:08 Hold on, it's 30 more seconds. Just listen to it. It's really... and you have to focus. It takes a little while to get into the sound and what they're saying. But just 30 more seconds. It's really cute. He's even saying adios to the Mexican pilots. Over to departure, JetBlue 171. Awesome job. Thank you, have a good day. Zero three, clear for takeoff. Four zero three, clear for takeoff. Thank you very much. You have a great day. JetBlue 195, Kennedy Tower, room with you in left position, hold. 311, position hold, JPLU 195. AMAX 403, contact departure, adios. Contact departure, Idle Mexico 403, adios. 4195, we're 31013, can't leave runway 31L, clear for takeoff. Cleared for takeoff, 311, JPLU 195. JPLU, I'm sorry, D216, can't leave runway 31L, position hold. D216, 311, D216.

29:01 It's cute. It's cute. It's actually quite funny. And of course, the news media didn't play this at all to anybody. This first time I've heard it. Oh, really? Oh, no. I mean, of course, all my there's no analysis. It's just it's just the same old zero tolerance fascist crap. You know, this kid was like, you know, it was illegal and it was bad. We got to stop it. And by the way, talking about this sort of thing, there's been more than a few of these stories also regarding this distraction of the week that are more pointed and that people pay attention to why they're cropping up now. And there was one story in the Bay Area where some kid, I guess her parents went to a marijuana place because they have the marijuana drug license and they

29:57 He had a brownie at home and the kid mistakenly ate the brownie in her lunch bag or something. Arrest them all! Arrest them all! Seriously, that basically the way it came out. There's a number of dubious aspects of the story. One, how did anybody at school tell that these kids were wasted in the first place after eating the brownie? Because I mean, kids are kind of wasted anyway. Kids are wasted. And so the whole story seemed like it was planted. And it's part of a, and this is going to get worse, by the way, over that we're going to spot every one of these that we can. I think they're happening probably less around the country than they are around here.

30:37 anything to stop the bill that's going to legalize marijuana in California because they know it and nationally they know that if it's passed in California, if this bill goes through, which it should, it's going to cause a cascade effect across the country, especially with the other half dozen or dozen, I guess it was a little over a dozen states that have this legalized marijuana law in play. It's going to go right to those guys and then it's going to go everywhere. And nobody wants that. I don't know why they don't want it. I mean, it seems like a tax base to me, but there's some reason they don't want it. Maybe it's because people start to see that, you know, maybe take a couple of hits of some marijuana. See that shit actually works. We're going to realize that everybody's lying to them. So this might be an opportune moment to look back to our last show.

31:27 And of course I've got the show notes loaded up. It's nice to be over here in the lowlands. I get a whole day of prep time instead of getting up at 6.30 in the morning. So under the heading Healthcare Wars, which would be the war you and I had on the last program, I received a lot, a lot of feedback on that. And my basic premise was where are the doctors in all of this? And there's a couple things I'd like to mention. One is a website, the Physicians for a National Health Program, pnhp.org, which is interesting to look at. It seems like there are physicians and medical professionals who do care about, and by the way, I'm not against a national health program,

32:16 At least this is doctors saying, hey, we've got some weird shit going on and we ain't all that good. We ain't doing such a great job. Then there was my friend Doc from Italy. I don't know if he's a surgeon, but he gives lectures, medical lectures, and he sent me a lot of information about the original HPV vaccines and he basically poked holes in it right off the bat. And he sent me a wonderful little piece from Plato, which I thought you might like. This is Plato's Laws, Slave Doctors, Free Doctors. And I guess I'll have to put this in the show notes. It's a one-pager, Athenian.

33:05 And did you ever observe that there are two classes of patients in states? Slaves and free men. And the slave doctors run about and cure the slaves or wait for them in dispensaries. Practitioners of this sort never talk to their patients individually or let them talk about their own individual complaints. The slave doctor prescribes what mere experience suggests as if he had exact knowledge, and then he has given his orders like a tyrant. He rushes off with equal tyrant. He rushes off with equal assurance to some other servant who is ill, and so he relieves the master of the house of the care of his invalid slaves. But the other doctor, who is a free man, attends the practices upon free men, and he carries his inquiries far back and goes into the nature of the disorder. He enters into discourse with the patient and with his friends,

33:56 and is at once getting information from the sick man and also instructing him as far as he is able and will not prescribe for him until he has first convinced him. At last, when he has brought the patient more and more under his persuasive influences and set him on the road to health, he attempts to effect a cure." And that's Plato, you know. And along with that comes a clip. from our national treasure. So Plato wrote that back in the day? Yeah. And it still applies? Yes. Well, Plato had a couple, I think he said a couple other interesting things. Huh, I got to look into that guy. Yeah, someone's got to give that guy a promotion. So there's

34:44 There was a very good This American Life episode, episode 391, which by the way if you go to iTunes and you go to the podcast section, these bastards are national treasure. They only give you the most recent episode. If you want a back episode, you have to buy it. Which pissed me off. So anyway, I'm sorry. Yeah, you have to buy back episodes on iTunes of this American life. You can't it's not like a podcast we can go get the back episodes. So this is an older episode from before the health care debate was raging.

35:20 And they go through three issues. One is the problem with the insurance companies, two is the problem with the big pharma, or three is it with the doctors. And there's this little story that I just wanted to let the doctor speak for a second. It's a pretty good clip. You should listen. It's a whole hour. You should listen to the whole thing. And what happens is a girl is brought in, she had a minor car accident and he basically does the five point test and says look you know you have no broken back, you're a little banged up but you're gonna be okay. You don't even need an x-ray, you don't need a CAT scan or anything like that. You're fine and you know and the mother's there and she says okay great but then this happens. But a couple of minutes later the dad showed up. Dr. Hoffman.

36:06 And the dad was a very tall, very powerful figure who was very upset and spoke very loudly. And he also happened to mention that he was a lawyer and that there would be consequences for any error that we made. And he said that he wanted to get not just an x-ray but a CAT scan of her neck. A CAT scan, which is not only more expensive than an X-ray, but uses much more radiation. So I tried to explain to him that A, she didn't really need the X-ray or the CAT scan, and B, that there was some harm with it. In fact, if you do a thousand CAT scans to a young woman like this, there's a pretty good chance that some small number, one, two, something like that,

36:50 may have harm from it. And the harm is not trivial harm, it's important harm. She could get a cancer of her thyroid that in 15, 20 years might actually be fatal. So while I can't say with 100% certainty that her neck was fine, I was pretty sure, 99.9% at least, in my judgment, it would be more harmful than beneficial to her to do the test for her. So I tried to explain this to the dad and I was trying to be really nice and patient, but he was having none of it. He said things like, you will do a CAT scan. And then I said to him something that actually I had long known, but it never crystallized for me exactly in this way until that moment. I said to him, you know,

37:38 For me, it really is the right thing to do the CAT scan. I said, you know, if I don't do the CAT scan, you're probably going to lodge a complaint about me. If I do the CAT scan, you're going to be really happy with me. I said, in addition, I'm almost certain that your daughter is fine. But there's maybe a one in a million chance that she isn't. That there really is a hidden factor and I'm missing it. And if that's the case, the CAT scan will save my butt. And on the other hand, if I do the CAT scan and your daughter gets a cancer 20 years from now, no one will blame me.

38:14 I said, in addition, I'm spending a lot of time talking to you here that I need to be going through other things. If I got the CAT scan, I could do it in a second. It would be done with. It would be easy. And then I said, finally, the really strange thing is that I'll get paid more if I do the CAT scan. Because the way that bills are made, you get paid more for more complex patients. the insurance companies of the world think that it proves that the patient was more complex and more difficult than you had to do a CAT scan. So everything about this was pushing me to do the CAT scan. I said that to him, and I said, there's only one problem, which is that when I decided to become a doctor, I made a pledge, and the pledge was that I would put my patient's interest in front of my own interest.

39:07 Did I lose you? Well, I almost fell asleep, but it was worth it because I want you to hear. I get it. I get it. But then in fact, it is a CAT scan delivers something like 30 years worth of background radiation per visit. Right. But the whole point is he it was for him, it was almost like he couldn't lose by doing it by because he would in addition to there being no risk for him of any lawsuit, in fact, less of a risk. He would get paid more because of the fee-for-service model, which is the one thing that is never discussed in this whole healthcare debate is how doctors are compensated. And again, I'll refer to the book about the medical insight. I'll put it in the show notes, noagendashow.com.

39:51 the insider from Eli Lilly, that it's hard man, it's hard when you got money and gifts and all kinds of beautiful things dangled in front of you, it's hard to not check yourself and say wait a minute, you know, I'm just prescribing stuff. And this is exactly what Plato wrote about. These are the slave doctors. And you got slave doctors and free doctors. So we've got both, but it's never discussed. Well, anyway, the point is is they if they would do some tort reform wouldn't hurt when you wouldn't have these asshole lawyers Yeah, it has a lot to do with it less lawyers. Whatever happened to Doc Holloway, you know the guy you know from Gunsmoke Doc Holliday. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it was Doc Holloway, he's still Acting in Hollywood Doc Holloway, you know what? I mean? Don't go it's good. All right. Oh

40:47 So do we have it? Well, let's talk about the what do you want to talk about next? Well, you know, I have a couple clips. Yeah, let's do some clips All right. So I want to talk about a new meme cropping up that is kind of amazing. Wait a minute. We can't do that Until we've discussed the jazzling one more time. Okay, let's just talk about I don't mind bumping the my commentary for jazz for a moment There's a there's a Twitter named the jazz. Well, it gets it gets better It gets better dear Adam and John says James. I want to thank you for a tip I heard on no agenda 178

41:25 You and John were talking about Vajazzling. So I did a quick search and I got the domain name. The domain is now bringing 100 plus uniques an hour and they have the potential to bring in huge amounts of moolah if I play my cards right. Vajazzling.com and he's selling all kinds of stuff and he says I'll be donating money, you guys will get a cut. and uh... good man yes and so we have we have a help start a new business john but you know what well good i mean we can we we would have done you know says you really we think in these kind of your job like i'm what it is i should have immediately grabbed the jazzling dot com host to provide yeah i know that's what i was thinking to you but but the fact of the matter is we would have grabbed it

42:13 And that would have been it. Yeah, we would have parked it, just sat on it, squatted. At least this guy's doing something and he's going to give us some compensation. That's great. We love that. And there's a couple of links to some vajazzling... examples of course you'll see this all this is just to continue on the meme from last week or the last show now you'll see all of these local not the news anchor but it'll probably be the weather girl and I got a couple of examples there are oh this is new thing it's called for jazzling I'm gonna go see what it's like and they always spotted this one right off the bat we only missed it by 30 days yeah props to you on that

42:50 And so if you want to see some vajazzling in action, there's a couple of YouTube clips, which you can also see at noagendatv.com, where all of our videos are proudly displayed in chronological order as they appear in the show notes. All right, a new meme. Is it as good as vajazzling? I think it's lame. But here, I want you to play, I've got a couple of clips, they ran back-to-back shows. on special victim units on NBC because they have nothing to put on at 10 o'clock because Leno's gone. He went, Leno moved his show and by the way, I want to talk a little bit about that even though it's real news later. But so they played these two back to back Dick Wolf shows.

43:35 And one of them was a, seemed to be a, we might as well do both of them right now. One of them is just a standard anti-Christian nutball rant, but this one equates to Christian, this tries to do its best job of doing a point by point, Christian nutballs are just as bad, if not worse, because they go after hookers. than Islamists. You can just see this was what this was all about. And the classic Christian nutball scene from that, which was all throughout this episode, it was just a crazy show that had...

44:14 It wasn't even good. I mean, it was just a bad show, but I just love this crazy acting. You might as well play Christian Nutball. Witness I honor that commandment. Are you okay? He's crazy! I tried to whip it out, he pulled out a Bible! I was trying to save her soul. After you locked her in. Well, then what happened? I tried to save her soul. He asked if I wanted to meet my father, so I cut him. Did I not tell you she attacked me? Well, she cut you up because you caged her in your car. It was the only way to get her to sit still long enough to hear the message. The message? Guys like you, you always got a message, don't you? It's not mine. It's God's. There is a better life waiting for girls like her in heaven. Is that your job? You're God's little messenger boy? Do you know what kind of sordid lives these girls are living? Actually, I do, especially because of freaks like you.

45:10 God put me on this earth to fight Satan's grip on these girls souls. Did God tell you to put your death grip on these girls necks? Sometimes dying is better than living. Now did you just admit to me that you murdered these two girls? No, I never harmed a soul. But whoever did this... Was murdered whoever did this sent these girls to heaven out of love Lord bless those who watch over the weak and Lord You know I'd like to say something about this John this is rather interesting because you know right now and get my nation lowlands are in the middle of an election cycle as you know the cabinet fell tripped over its own shoelaces and

46:03 And so they had the regional elections yesterday and even though Geert Wilders party, the PVV, was only eligible in two regions, they of course won by a landslide, which is a setup for the national elections come end of May, beginning of June. But all over the news there is a meme of other religions doing weird shit. Now, Gheerd Wilders, the PVV party, is the party that wants to stop immigration of of Muslims into the Netherlands, he wants to impose a quote, rag tax. So it's okay if you want to wear, they call it the rag tax. It's okay if you want to wear a headscarf, but you have to pay a thousand euros as an extra tax.

46:53 But immediately there's all these... What if it's cold out? There's all these really weird stories about, you know, and by the way that's a whole other topic I have for later in the show, about these Roman Catholic priests in this one church, in this one province where they were of course fiddling around with the kids for years and so now that's all come out and then you can literally hear the debate being like well you know we've got bad on this side and bad on that side but they've got their churches so the mosque should be allowed and it really seems like this is they're trying to even it out and make it okay because hey look you know

47:35 Muslims are bad, but or Islamists or people who? Believe in Islam, but you know so are Roman Catholics and and Christians apparently are also nut balls So they're all crazy, so they also have equal rights. I guess I Love the logic yeah, well, that's really the way it's coming across. You know it's it's it's nutty. It's nutty alright So this second one now I understand the the link you gave me that I did put in the show notes now I understand why he gave it to me now. I'm looking at the title of the clip and Alright, there's a meme that's kind of buried in here that you're going to have to listen to, but I'm going to set this whole thing up. This is about a guy who they caught who runs a print shop and he's irked by all the lesbians moving into the neighborhood. Wait a minute, stop right there. That's wrong. I mean, as Knights of the NOAH Gender Roundtable know, there's nothing ever to be irked about lesbians moving into the neighborhood.

48:27 Anyway, this guy's irked about it, and so he's decided to rape and kill them. One by one to convert them to something or other. It's hard to say. But he acts like a real weenie. And so the woman, Maria Hargis, whatever her name is, the actress, who's another typical actress on any of these shows, she decides to play the, pretend to be a lesbian and confront this guy in the interrogation room. Is she hot? Yeah, she's a good looking woman. Although it's funny when you see her on the red carpet or anything, any of these shows where she's actually herself rather than this cop character she plays. She's like a valley girl. It's hilarious. So anyway, so she's going to get in this guy, you know, she's going after him and then he is acting like, oh, and then he gets tough and then she busts him and then she leaves. And so he proves himself guilty by yelling at her. So then they go into the next scene where, where, uh,

49:25 The Cathy, what's her name, the actress, the D-list actress, C-list, whatever, do you speak French? Oh, Cathy Griffin. She comes and she plays the lesbian, and of course she now turns out to be bisexual, and she has to go throw this rigmarole, and she feels real good about the fact that she's now bisexual for some reason. And anyway, but there's a there's a meme that's kind of buried in here that I'm going to discuss and I want to see if I can find it Okay, this is called find the meme. Oh an opportunity for a new jingle find the meme Adam All us lesbians are a mistake except the good news is you know how to correct us you're wrong But you want to make me right don't try

50:04 Correct a bitch like me, grab me off of my feet, throw me onto that table and bend me all the way over because you've got everything you need to make me a real woman. Right between your legs. And you'd love it, just like those other two did. Every moment of it. Goodbye, Ronnie. Oh, you bitch! You bitch! You got him She got him in hell of a performance. I think well. Thank you from all of us So are you still speaking for the community? Really about a tenth of them, but let's be strong. We'll be back I'm opening the membership to include everyone making it a real LGBTQIA organization well a is for allies so you can count us in

51:02 Larry's not an ally. Apparently getting shot kind of soured him on me. Bullet in the ass will do that. Okay, I heard a couple things. First of all, I got like a semi at the beginning there. And don't... Wait, wait, and don't Google anything. No. How about, uh, let's be strong. I thought that was pretty. That was the name of her organization that she was rich and she and she does not. LBGTQIA. Was that what she said? Yeah. What exactly is that? Yeah. That's what I said. Did you Google it? I got the whole thing.

51:43 So I'm listening. I had to actually rewind the tape a couple of times because look, I live in the Bay Area. I know about all this stuff that's going on and I do watch the... You've fixed a dyke or two, haven't you, John? I've seen a few. And I know about the LBGT, because this became a meme some years ago, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender is what that means. So then I hear this new meme, LBGTQIA, which I'm thinking, look, this is a little long. I mean, what's the deal? Okay, so this seems to, the best research I can do on it, and I'm sure somebody out there knows more, but I did enough work. It seems to have stemmed from the University of California system, either San Diego or Santa Barbara or Santa Cruz, one of them, because I guess they had a big meeting and it wasn't inclusive enough. So they decided to add some new shit to it.

52:36 And I think it all, so I think, and I think I tried to deconstruct it to figure out why it's so damn long and they didn't want it. It could be LGB, it really should be LGBTI. I mean, that would take care of it. And the I, I'm going to ask you what you think these letters stand for. Guess Q. Question? Queer? Queer. Yeah, I got queer. Okay. Okay. Now, wait a minute. What does that mean? What is queer? Well, you're as queer as a $2 bill. $3 bill. Oops. That's how queer I am. Well, queer is a derogatory term for gay. I mean, it used to be just... It's a derogatory term for LGBT right? Yes, correct. So isn't it redundant? Yeah, damn them. And pointless? Damn them. Isn't it pointless? What's the A for? Allies. Ooh.

53:36 Okay, so now looking at this link you sent me which is in the show notes. No, don't look at it. Don't look at it. Well, you could know because no, what do you mean? No, okay. I won't I I Intersects. Yeah. Yeah, I looked at it. I looked at I saw that one. I'll see. Yeah, you know what that means? No Yeah, it's the problem with it. It means her mafra diet. Oh Oh really? Oh here it is. Intersex. A. The biological sex of a person born with ambiguous genitalia or B. One whose external genitalia at birth do not match the standards for male or female e.g. enlarged clitoris or tiny penis.

54:21 Well, yeah, that's Bill and Hillary Clinton right there. I mean, well, you got them both in one go. Well, there you have it. So anyway, the point is, is that now they've added this new meme and it's California that's put apparently, although you can find it The link I sent you is from Lehigh University. You can find there's various clubs now thinking of changing their moniker from LGBT, which is enough of a tongue twist, blah, blah, is enough of a long acronym to LGBTQIA. When I heard that, I said, what is Dick Wolf trying to do now? That's crazy.

55:01 It's totally crazy and I guarantee it's going to catch on as kind of a debatable. They got a new logo with all the background colors and little bubbles and there's a bunch of websites and the whole thing is like trying to just it's a it's a co-option. And the fact that they've got the word queer stuck in there, which is, you know, it's weird. And then the allies is, you know, so what? I mean, why does that have to be in the name? It's like the Democrat Party and its friends. I mean, it doesn't make sense. And then the whole thing, the I, they just won't have I. So it essentially seems to me is what I'm thinking. It seems to me that the gay community and I'm including when I say gay, I mean,

55:40 male-female gaze, I know I don't differentiate, which I think is something that needs discussion amongst them, is I think it's to marginalize the hated hermaphrodites, which I think apparently the LGBT people don't like, so they surrounded the I with a Q and an A, which has nothing to do with anything. I mean, they don't even need to be on the list, they won't go, LGBT, T.I. They won't do it because I don't think the gay community in this regard, and I think this proves it, likes to deal with hermaphrodites. John C. DuBois acts as the above day. And there you have it. How about W.H.P.I.T.M.I.T.M.? What is that? We hit people in the mouth in the morning.

56:29 So there you go. Now if you look on the link that I sent, which is a Lehigh University glossary of all these different kinds of terms, you know, including, and it's actually very educational for people out there. But here's the one that gets me. What's the difference between, and I'm not mocking anybody. What's the difference, maybe I am. What's the difference between a gay and an MSM? An MSM, that's mainstream media. Mainstream media also means men who have sex with men. Oh, I thought it was M4M. No, that's just the Craigslist ads, I'm sorry. I'm reliably informed. Uh-oh, breaking news, John.

57:16 They've, uh, it looks like someone tripped over the earthquake machine trigger. It was, luckily it wasn't aimed at a landmass. Barcelona, Spain, Dateline, two hours, 35 minutes ago, monstrous waves smashed into a Mediterranean cruise ship, flooded people's cabins, broke windows in a restaurant and sent terrified travelers screaming for doctors. Lot of water came in many cabins were flooded. You know they've really got to quit this shit on the earthquake machines This is really getting out of control. Yeah, especially when you're harassing old women So we know that a 6.4 magnitude quake hit southern Taiwan another target for the Chinese and the Chinese are I think they're the ones that are messing it up because they're like them

58:06 I don't think their array is strong enough or they have a bad standing wave ratio. I'm supposed to save it for the second half of the show. No, I got to do it now. They have a bad standing wave ratio so too much energy is reflecting back or they need to adjust their dipole or whatever because... Dipole. Hey, we're adjusting that dipole. What? Meanwhile, the Harper Ray is just fantastic. Not only did we blow blow chili into Chile. into oblivion there with our 8.8, but we actually slowed down the earth, I'm sorry, sped it up, which is just fantastic. Of all the earthquakes we've heard of... I need more time, not less. Of all the earthquakes we've heard of, and the way I understand this, this is very much like when a skater does a pirouette.

58:57 And the skater, the ice skater, we just saw this at the Olympics. At least, not if you weren't watching. If you were watching CBC, you didn't see it. But if you're watching NBC, then you would see an ice skater twist around and when the skater pulls their arms in, they start to spin faster. So apparently, this beam was so powerful that it contracted the earth, like pulling in a piece of the land, and now we're spinning faster. Well, yeah, by a nanosecond. Yeah, but if that doesn't have harp written all over it, what does? Apparently this goes on constantly until we're spinning north to south. I'm not paying attention to any of these theories. And I'm just waiting for someone to say it. That would be cool. Now tell me that wouldn't be cool. Yeah, well, we might get dizzy.

59:44 But you know I'm just waiting for some dipshit to come out and say oh by the way this will of this is this is really going to make global warming even worse you watch oh No, there's definitely a dipshit on its way Yeah, and then I don't know if this is the one that I read before but someone sent me this just so you have it from defense.gov a transcript this is from 1997 I think we did 1977 and this is William S Cohen, maybe we did do this one before but I just want you to know that I'm not joking about the earthquake machines. Department of Defense news briefing Secretary of Defense William S Cohen and he talks about all kinds of terrorism, threat of Ebola virus, could be a very dangerous phenomenon. This is an exact transcript on the defense.gov website link in the show notes at noagendashow.com

1:00:38 quoting the last bit of this paragraph, Alvin Toffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races, we've talked about that, and others are designing some sort of engineering, so let me just repeat, others are designing, this is 1997, some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism where they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

1:01:19 So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts. That's why it's so important. Hey, hey, where was this? Where did you get this prison planet? Where is this? This is www.defense.gov slash transcripts slash transcript dot ASPX Question mark you have I have a link to this seven yes here It is don't give me that prison planet planet bull you're always like look You know and by the way Alex Jones ain't that crazy either. He just yells a bit much. He's a link It's it's in it's in it's in Skype right now defense gov Okay, news transcript the US Department of Defense Let me just read that last line again because you talked over me so this is the

1:02:12 This is Cohen, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts and that's why this is so important. All right. Yeah. Okay. I mean you make your case and that's that's the way it goes. People complain bitterly about this and then I say well, you know, there's this documentation that keeps cropping up and Adam keeps glomming on to it What am I supposed to say to him? well, and of course

1:02:53 So, this is the type of reporting that we bring to you. Please allow me to bring you the type of reporting that CNN brings to you when it comes to earthquakes and tsunamis. No, don't! Yes, because several people sent me the clip and of course, we just have to play it now that we actually have it. Let me see if there's... is a series of boobies that are in different waters at different stages. So as the tsunami goes down, those buoys literally give a reading. And that reading is then sent back to meteorologists, and they can start to figure out how large the tsunami is, how big the waves are, etc., etc. We just got one of those readings.

1:03:38 And we want to share it with you because we think it's important and will help you understand. You know, I was trying to find out what was happening at that exact moment. There must have been something else going on because there's no other reason for them to do all this crazy waiting for the tsunami delay crap. Look at all the guys we have over here. Don't look over here. Look over there. Okay, so Jackie's gonna explain what's happening and then comes the money shot. These are the ones that we're going to be watching and there's Hawaii right from there about a hundred and forty miles away From the Hawaiian island. We've got a buoy out there and this is what it's showing here There you can see the line and notice this big drop down here. We have this big drop This is about a nine meter drop nine meter dry me. What does that mean? Well, it means that the ocean is ranger

1:04:34 We're seeing some changes. It's been going down. Like 9 meters, 9 meters. What's a meter? Our expert in here. Here comes our expert to explain 9 meters. Dr. Kurt Frankel. And Dr. Frankel, tell us a little bit. You know, we talk about how the tsunami rolls will come in or the water will pull back before we start to see. Is this a sign of that? I think that's a sign of that. I don't think you can translate that 9 meters into necessarily any specific wave height that will hit Hawaii. So we need to be careful about that. It doesn't necessarily mean there will be a nine meters of run up in Hawaii. But it's just showing that the tsunami in fact did pass that place. By the way, nine meters in English is? About 27 feet. 27 feet.

1:05:12 Oh, it was Sanchez who said that. Yes it was. I thought it was one of the women, that's what I was told. Well, I'm sure he wasn't the only one saying that. But Sanchez, what a... What is the word, Chinese? What is nine meters, what is that in English? I'm really rolling here, this is a crisis situation. You've got to explain nine meters in English to me, you bastard! Oh, man. So you have a choice. No wonder people send us money. Thank you. You have a choice. You can either listen to our actual reporting upon government documents that you can go look at yourself, which is in plain English. You know, what is an earthquake generated by remote in English? Well, it's exactly that. It's what they say it is. But when you want to know what nine meters in English is, hey, go zone out for three hours waiting for the tsunami, OK?

1:06:06 Jeez, that's terrible. So luckily people are supporting this program and we need it because it takes a lot of time to figure out what 9 meters is in English. Yeah, all day apparently. So you want to go over the donations this week and all the douchebag callouts that seem to be pretty thematic? Yeah, let's do that. Sure. I got plenty more fun stuff on the way. I'm going to tell everybody out there in advance. I got way too many notes. Good. That were too long. I'm going to read as many as I can and I'm going to discuss a couple of things.

1:06:45 and call out some people for one reason or another because their friends or so-called friends think they should be called out for things you don't respect. Before you do that, I just need to mention one quick little little funny story because we're on earth I want don't want to come back to earthquakes after this but yes, please earthquakes Haiti, of course, we've been laughing about the About the Bush and Clinton Foundation, you know Just want you to send send cash to them guys sure show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity search-and-rescue team

1:07:21 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. I can't get enough of that clip. Bob Geldof in the Times today, link in the show notes, is angry because a CIA report claims that about 63 million of the money raised from Live Aid actually went to rebels to buy money, buy guns, to go and overthrow the government. And he's like, no, that's not true, man. And there's a report, they have a report about all of this money. A CIA report saying that this money went to rebels over to a white government in Haiti? Yeah, no, in, uh, no, this was, um...

1:08:04 Ethiopia, that's what Live Aid was for Ethiopia. Oh, Live Aid, it's from the old show, not the more recent thing. Yeah, no, but this is just to show you that, of course the report comes out, I mean this is like 25 years ago. So, this is just to show you that this money, it never goes to the people it's intended for. The people who participate in these shows, they do it for their own ego, and they may have some, you know, like, oh I do want to help, but they're just idiots. Because there's better ways of helping like donating to Doctors Without Frontiers or a real legitimate group. Doctors Without Borders, I think. Oh, the French is Sans Frontieres, so yeah, Without Borders. And these things are primarily scams. Just to make it even funnier, if you go to iTunes and you go to buy the concert,

1:08:52 For Haiti? Yeah. It says SOS help for Haiti the subtitle for SOS. What does that stand for John? This was me save our souls. It literally stands for it says it right here. I've got the screenshot saving ourselves. What? Oh, that's interesting. So at least they're up front about it. Saving ourselves. We just want to save ourselves. That's all we're saying. Just so we got to save ourselves. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. You can take that to the bank. Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.

1:09:37 There you go. Well, I think it's a I'm glad to hear that the CIA finally released a study showing the $62 million of live aid went to Ethiopian rebels. I guess it's a form of aid. Yeah. Isn't that cool? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Not really. If you listen to this show, you believe it. No, but it still makes you irked. Somewhat. All right, donations, and we got a plenty. John Schweitzer, Evansville, Illinois, $99.99, which is good, and then you flip it upside down and you got Lance Coviello from Rhinebeck, New York with $66.66. Oh, interesting. Isn't that interesting? One came in right after the other, which I thought was typically weird. Philips Shane, Brooklyn, $62. Thomas Schultz in Stuttgart,

1:10:54 $51 I love stuttgart. Why are you talking like a nazi? Why do you have to do that? Tom bushi 5510 Who has another hidden cabin we can hide in you know it doesn't have internet because we're gonna need that and he says it's But 5510 is actually double nickels on the dime. Hell yeah fo sho I thought that was great. By the way, any white guy that says faux shibble, faux shizzle, automatic... DOOSHBAG! Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. Also if you throw gang signs in pictures and you're white, same thing. Gang signs. DOOSHBAG!

1:11:30 Totally. But I like to double nickels on the dime. So anybody who wants to contribute that amount, they'll get a double nickel on the dime. That's another song Jeff Smith can do. I love it. He could. Yeah. James Lowry, 10101 from Parts Unknown. He wants to make sure that he lets everybody know that his friend or supposed friend, Chris is a douchebag. Oh, no. Douchebags!

1:12:15 Whoops we have a founding producer program that we're closing by the way like today. Yeah, it is the last day or tomorrow whatever and a lot of people gave us a lot of money for that which is good because we're gonna need it and We got some Jason Carney writes. He wants to snag some new listeners. I'm just gonna quote from him Glenn the devious Chinaman Chang Mufasa, Lul, Bacon Hater, Bari, Mike Doublewide, Loftus, Juan Not A Mexican, Zemzel, Doombida, I guess, Albert Lowscore, Loom. We all work in federal finance. You wouldn't believe the inefficiency and waste we've seen here in Washington, D.C. Love the show. Keep up the good work. So are those guys douchebags? Yeah, I guess so.

1:13:08 But the only thing because they're not listeners He got Joseph Petrides is wanting to donate see we got a raise after my year in review went well Yeah, he actually said he he he got a huge raise the day after he donated the Petrides Yeah, he sent me this whole yeah says he said he goes on and on and he says He's looking for Java and Oracle guys out of Reston, Virginia. Wink, wink. Send him an email and he put it in so I'm going to give it to you if you guys want a code for this guy. Joe.Petrides.

1:13:48 at hotmail.com and he gets $3,000, this is the good news, he gets $3,000 for any referral who stays longer than 180 days and $500 goes to the No Agenda coffers if something works out. Thank you, that would be highly appreciated. He also wants to call out the former owner of a 40 acre security company who lives in San Francisco and probably doesn't want his name mentioned. You know who you are and I have one word to describe you since you haven't donated yet, douchebag. Douchebag. Unbelievable. So Jenny Maywood sent us an email. Adam and John, I want to share a bit of my good luck after donating to No Agenda. I signed up for a $5 a month donation the weekend of 2-23. The next week, a lady that I see in the gym often asks me if I lost an earring. Turns out she found an earring of mine.

1:14:37 that I'd lost over a month, maybe two months ago. These earrings are fake diamonds but meant a lot to me because my mom had recently given them to me for my birthday. It was like finding a needle in a million haystacks. I had no idea where I lost the earring until it was found. I blame my good luck on donating to the show." There you have it. I'm actually buying into this. All right, Stephen Guerreri who donated, loves the show, blah, blah, blah. He's the one with the nsidetrack.com, nsidetrack without an i.com. It has this little interesting product for your laptop. If you use the coupon code NOAGENDA to save 25% on the premium version.

1:15:19 which I assume will. Oh, nice. You know, someone should do the premium code. We also have somebody plugging. We're going to put it in the show notes. The Android app is giving us 100% of the proceeds from the Android app that plays the show. The wait a minute. Is this one I have in the well, you'll make sure you give me the link later or give it to me now if you can. So it's a bitly link, so you can it's real easy. It's a bit bit dot L.Y. Slash and A.S. Maybe I already have that. It's an Android app? I think it's, you see there, slash NAS underline Android, which could be it too. Yeah, that's what it is. NAS underline Android. Yeah, he's, and he sent us the entire proceeds for the sales. So bit.ly slash NAS underscore Android.

1:16:06 Yeah, like that. Yeah. Okay good. I'll put it in the show notes later. He sent us the entire That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, what is it? How much was it? I just said what does it cost? Oh, no, I don't know what the app costs. I'm just saying he sent all his money to us. Oh, how much that's a lead-in for you to say well Well, how much was that? Well, John. John. How much was that? Five bucks. Cool. All right. So I guess nobody in the Android platform listens to Noah Chambda. You know what? There's no amount too big or too small. It has its potential. We appreciate it all.

1:16:46 I have donated several times writes Michael Cosme because the show is seriously one of the greatest sources of information in my week and I send tweets and buzzes and emails encouraging friends and others to listen. Never before have I felt compelled to do a DB call out before and as a network engineer, you know how much we love you admins and network engineers, you will save the world eventually. and part-time app developer for Apple and now Android, I request that you call Apple Inc. a total douchebag for this nonsensical patent lawsuit against HTC Google. Yeah, I told them we weren't going to do that. Oh really? That's okay. We need to have a meeting.

1:17:26 We don't need meetings. We should have a pre-show meeting. That's what we're not gonna do. We need a meeting. Yes, let's do meetings. John, good idea. So much is ruined by a meeting. We need meetings. One meeting is screwed. We need meetings, dude, for sure. This is awesome. This is awesome. Phillip Shane, a former ABC News producer, working with Peter Jennings until his untimely death, donated some money. He had a bunch of interesting commentary, a very long note, But he did have to say this, besides all his compliments, he says, P.S., Adam may be interested in an excellent ABC documentary I edited with Peter Jennings called UFOs, Seeing is Believing. Jennings died shortly after we aired the program. I'm just saying. I know. Fantastic. I'm going to probably interview him. It'll be one of our first stream interviews because

1:18:22 I think everyone has been doing a great job at supporting us. We're nowhere near anywhere we need to be for self-support and really quitting other things. But I feel the love, so I'm just gonna step it up. We're already doing the equivalent of three shows with our two times two hours a week. But I feel that I can just step it up one more notch and I wanna get those, particularly because of all the founding producers for the stream. I'm gonna start doing that and also daily source code. I just had to get the move over and everything. It would be nice if I could sell the fucking plane. That would help. No, that would be all I'd need. That would be it. That would guarantee me a year of concentrating only on this. Okay, we got a note from James Del Norte, the GetSilverAndGold.com. It's G-E-T, silver, A-N-D, gold.com, all one word. He gave us,

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1:20:05 People are asking about the plane. It's been up for a couple weeks James Lowry writes I hope you receive your donation of 101 or one for hookers and blow money I'm still not great with the PayPal as I've set up an account for the sole purpose of donating to know agenda That's nice. I hope this is enough to buy a douchebag of the week Although we haven't done that a shout out for my friend Chris Costin. That's who it was and he's in Australia Well, I think it buys one. Yeah, there's a lot of douchebags out there. I think that's I think that covers most of the important notes. So wait, there's one or two from some some executive producer, some guy, a guy named Render Tank is broke and he sent us his last couple of dollars hoping to find work. And we had a bunch of people that says they got jobs after they sent us money.

1:20:56 executive producer for the executive founder and producer Clancy Childs for the stream wanted to make a note he's he says get Marshall Stark a job and he's a douchebag. Oh boy. Don't know why. Douchebag. But he apparently is a douchebag. And so we we appreciate All of these donations, no matter what size they are, and if you give a larger donation, please consider joining one of our programs like the $30 a month or the $5 a month. It's that base. And actually, your son Eric has been doing a lot of analysis for us, helping us understand where the growth is. I haven't really had enough time to parse it all, but it seems to be an important thing to join up to an ongoing program.

1:21:48 Yeah, I just had the one last call out Founding producer Corey Kahler Wants us to plug planet Corey comm that's PLA and et Corey see or ey.com he has a song which is free you can download on how to save the world and You might want to go over there and see what he's up to I think that's it okay Good news John Well, first of all, let's say noagendashow.com to donate, dvorak.org slash NA or channeldvorak.com slash NA. And I think we're holding up our end of the bargain here. So don't be a douchebag. Donate.

1:22:30 Because before you know it, your neighbor's going to call you out and it ain't pretty. Douchebag. I don't know. I still say I have mixed feelings about that. About the douchebag? We need a better jingle. We need more jingles to... because we got so many douchebags in the world. We need to liven it up a bit. Oh, and by the way, I do have a note from our new knight, which I'll read next week because it's buried in my email. Rene, there in Harlem. Sir Rene. Sir Rene, who was called out as a douchebag and he decided to become a knight. He's also got a bunch of complaints about being called a douchebag in the first place. And we'll get back to him because he's now at the top of our discussion list.

1:23:14 Hey, there's very good, there's very good... A lot of knights from the Netherlands. I think they respond to this more positively. Well, the Netherlands, you know, people are waking up over here. They're going, they're waking up and they're going, wait a minute, all these frickers in The Hague, they're all... Douchebags! This is wrong. And you should see the news over here. It's just funny. And people are just so asleep here. Well, you know, you're over there and you have not brought up any European news at all. Yeah, I brought up a list. There's a couple of things regarding the European Union, the United States of Europe I want to talk about. But first, there is fantastic news. We will only have to wait one more week, John, because in one week, the proof will be provided to us that President Obama is actually a CIA operative gone rogue.

1:24:01 And here is the proof. You're right, this is crazier than the earthquake machine. I am James David Manning, senior pastor of the Otlow World Missionary Church in Harlem, New York. I'm also the originator of the Columbia Obama trial scheduled for the 14th of May. I'm sorry, I thought it was March. It's May. We have to wait a little bit longer, but we're on the leading edge tip because he is going to expose all. The year 2010. Due to the growing threatening circumstances surrounding this trial, I must now release the full transcript we wish to present, document and prove at the Columbia Obama trial later this year. Obama was recruited in 1980 by the CIA while a student at Occidental College in Los Angeles, California.

1:24:59 The CIA needed Muslims who were fluent in Farsi and other Islamic customs and understandings. Obama was perfect as an undercover agent. The CIA then later enlisted Columbia University to extend its foreign student program to Barack Hussein Obama that he might enroll in the universities around Karachi and in Pakistan and also the Patrice Lumumba school in Moscow. You have got to see this whole video. It's about 10 minutes. It's our long-legged Mac daddy.

1:25:41 Reverend Manning and he goes to Mac Daddy guy. This is the Mac Daddy guy Yeah, okay, and he goes into great detail long-legged Mac the long-legged Mac the the original long-legged Mac Daddy and he goes into great detail about And now we do know that Obama worked for BIC the business international corporation I think is called which is a known CIA front and And so apparently on May 14th he's going to reveal all the documents that shows that Obama is actually a CIA operative. that went rogue and they couldn't stop him anymore so they decided well you know what we'll just instead of trying we can't kill him because now he's you know he's already too much in the public eye but we have this blackmail of this how was the guy Larry's Larry Silver some guy like that gay guy yeah who says that he had you know oral sex with Obama. Gay sex yeah whatever. And did coke with him and stuff hookers and blow literally

1:26:41 So I can't wait. I mean, the clock is literally ticking down to May 14th. But you know, I love the sincerity of this guy. It does fill in a lot of blanks. I mean, if you're at Occidental College, which I think is, if I'm not mistaken, is right, and then you end up at Harvard Law School, it's kind of an interesting jump. But it would be expedited, of course, if you were connected. And then you get involved in Chicago politics and you decide to quit. And now you've been saying since on this show for over a year that there's a feud going on between the CIA and Obama. And that would actually be a nice... It totally fits, right? It totally fits into that schema.

1:27:28 I'd be interested in listening to this is if nothing else is highly entertaining. Well, there's something else going on that I remember we brought this up on the show a while ago and there's nothing on Wikipedia that I can find but I keep reading about it and this has to do with the CIA the Bush and Clinton crime family as they've described on these websites that I the only websites that can find I mean I put them in the show notes under elites under the heading elites no agenda show calm and because you have to read it and maybe it'll I just need the help with the research I just don't have the time with my day job and this is about the Wanta Reagan Mitterrand protocols and spell it Wanta whiskey alpha November tango alpha

1:28:17 and you can google it a million times you're still going to come up with the same websites Tom Hannigan's website but this this goes all the way up to 2010 to as recent as February 28th apparently there was a fund which varies in size from six trillion dollars to twenty five trillion dollars this money is parked in Switzerland in a Swiss bank and this ambassador to some African nation Mr. Wanta was given the combination. So he's the only person apparently who knows the numbers to get the money out. But this money was supposed to revert back to the United States and what you keep reading is, Wanta Reagan Mitterrand protocols blocked, blocked again. And I'm trying to understand what the hell this thing really is. It's very difficult but you read through it, it is fascinating to read these blogs

1:29:18 and what people are trying to communicate. And I'd never heard of the Wanta Reagan Mitterrand protocol. And apparently a lot of this fund throughout the years has been slushed away through Things like the Child Defense Fund and all these hokey fronts. And according to all these articles, goes into the Bush-Clinton crime syndicate pockets. But they connect Bernie Madoff to this protocol thing. And I'm trying to connect all of these dots and I can feel that there's something there. Maybe there isn't because it's so difficult to connect the dots, but there's a lot of things going on. Ambassador Wanta, W-A-N-T-A, please help me research this because as crazy as it sounds, my gut is saying, need to look into it, need to find out. And it seems like this was some kind of agreement with France

1:30:21 that this money was set aside and was supposed to come back and by the way if it really is the 27.5 trillion dollars that is claimed that would kind of solve some problems for us as the United States. This makes... what was the money taken out for to begin with? It was like a rainy day fund but anyway... Where did it come from? I don't know, but you know gold who knows I this is what I'm trying to figure out But you know golden sax is in the gold tungsten Swaparoo. Yeah, by the way Did you read that they? Let me find it here for a second that they found some more fake gold. No where they find it this time now hold on a second it's

1:31:11 It was a, I think it was a, was it a German website that I found that on? It's like the most underreported story in the world. Yeah. Nobody wants to talk about this. Hold on a second. Where was the tungsten? Oh boy. I'm sorry I'm not finding this real quick because it was okay well there I thought it would be on my experience with the tungsten stories is that you find them on the web if you don't save page as you'll never find them again no I have it in my show oh here it is German Pro Seben TV finds 500 gram tungsten bar at WC Harris gold foundry story

1:31:56 This is dateline March 1st. German TV station ProSieben finds what appears to be some evocative proof of gold counterfeiting in the form of tungsten gold substitutes coming to the foundry WC Herreis, which is the world's largest privately owned precious metals refiner and fabricator located in Hanau, Germany. The foundry has isolated at least one 500 gram tungsten bar due for melting originating from a so far unnamed bank which is the head of the foundry stated made the unpleasant discovery not all that glitters is gold and there's a clip you can look at it the audio is in German but there's English subtitles and it does corroborate and have a picture of this fake bar that they discovered so yeah under reported yeah most certainly most certainly

1:33:31 So there's nobody's policing anything. They're just you know writing everything up that they can There's a good audio with the meetings where these guys are telling the cops really Yeah, it's very interesting. That's gitmo man. I'll tell you I'll tell you that David Ike came out with a great article and and David Ike You know a lot of people call him crazy He's written a lot of books and a lot of things he said have come true I actually like his material. I think he's quite good until he gets to the end of his... Until he gets to the reptilian stuff. Well, he has latched on to the story that we started reporting on a couple weeks ago about this girl with Down syndrome who came out in Scotland, who came out and said, hey, you know, wait a minute. I've been sexually abused by my dad, by my brother, by these sheriffs, by these high ranking officials.

1:34:21 And David Icke has a great article called The Fabric of the Web. And he goes into, well, let me just read a couple of lines from the opening of this article. You want me to send it to you on Skype for a second, John, so you can read ahead a little bit faster, but for the audience. This is huge and it's taken me down a rabbit hole I don't like to venture in, but wow. I've had countless surprises and many shocks as I have lifted this stone and seen what horrors lie beneath, but few more than the scale of child abuse and Satanism. And that's the word scale. The fact that this is happening is one thing, but to realize how widespread and fundamental it is to establishment power all over the world was truly shocking. I've talked with people in the best part of 50 countries in my research of this subject, the abused, the insiders who know the abusers, and those who have dedicated their lives to exposing evil.

1:35:13 Put it all together, the situation is as clear as can be. Pedophilia and Satanism are the cement that hold the establishment control structure together in every country and these national networks connecting together to form a global network of pedophiles and Satanists all watching each other's backs while they continue to serve the control system. And let me tell you what he goes into. Do you remember the horrible massacre at Dunblane in Scotland? Not really where this this so-called crazy guy Walked into a school and shot and killed 16 kids and a teacher. This was 1999 I believe yeah, and so this is one of these cases where Tony Blair Decided that the evidence and the entire case needed to be sealed for 100 years because this guy

1:36:10 essentially the way David Icke asserts, had to go and kill these kids because they were going to talk about the abuse that was taking place. And he asserts, and he's got some excellent research, that Scotland is pretty much the epicenter of these pedophile rings, these, you know, there's Satanist rituals where they're killing children. and he has the same links we've talked about about Bush senior and his and all of his Boys Town USA trysts with Lawrence King goes into so that's called the Franklin cover-up

1:36:53 The only thing they don't mention is the Netherlands, which I have mentioned several times. And so I've put a couple of extra links into the show notes for you to investigate. Because I'll tell you the one thing, I'm not afraid of saying anything on this show. The one thing I'm afraid of is this. Because this is the kind of thing where they're going to triangulate my iPhone and zap me from freaking outer space like they did with Michael Jackson. Because they do not want you to know that they see they're all blackmail able This is the thing it's like they and and all these people attract each other and they have gotten over the years They have gotten into very high positions all across the globe in politics and they bring each other in and they all have they're all you know saying hey, you know you better shut up or we'll tell about what you've been doing with kids or about all these with this weird shit you're doing and if people do Start to talk then they get killed

1:37:45 And believe me, the Bush's, the Clinton's, the highest levels in the justice system, in the police system, it's rampant. It's all over the place. And one day it is going to come out. But I personally, I have a huge amount of respect for David Icke for really going deep into this. And you should take a look at this. It's under the heading elites in the show notes at noagendashow.com. So why does he go, I'm looking at this thing now. I don't see... he takes this thing over somehow to the Lockerbie bombing but he doesn't... Oh, oh, that's great. No, that's great. It's a connection. I'm not getting it. Well, okay, the connection is that the Lockerbie bombing was actually a rogue CIA group that was smuggling drugs and they were going to blow the whistle and they had... Who's they?

1:38:43 The... I'll tell you who they are. It's in this article. So there were like three people who were going to blow this wide open and say, you know, this is crap. Because apparently a rogue CIA fraction was smuggling drugs on these Pan Am flights and they're stopping off in weird places. And so this is how a lot of... And there's tons of reports of heroin being found in Lockerbie, which of course was all, you know, hushed up. But there were two people on the... It was about the people on the plane who were going to go and expose

1:39:21 this group of rogue CIA agents who were part of this drug smuggling scam and I guess that maybe they had something, he ties it in somehow to the child abuse but it was basically the same people hushed up that that hushed up the Dunblane. I'm looking, listening to you and reading this is, I don't know what, it's flimsy. Yeah, but you gotta follow a lot of links to get into it. But the whole Lockerbie thing, without a doubt, was fishy to start with. Oh yeah, and the reason they let the guy go is because obviously they had gotten there, but I think that's pretty obvious, that they wouldn't have ever let that guy go if he'd actually done anything.

1:40:05 So, I mean, it's just, that's, the whole thing is extremely sketchy. There was a lot of early reporting on the Lockerbie thing and they really pinned it on some other terrorist group and they, I mean, with lots of good evidence and then most of that slowly dissipated as we wanted to stick Libya with it and then they let the guy go. But it was the guy, okay, this is the connection. one of the high-ranking officials, because Lockerbie's in Scotland, one of the high-ranking officials who covered up the Lockerbie bombing, the truth behind it, who also covered up a lot of these pedophile rings. You've got to go way down to the bottom of the article. There's a couple more links. One is British Prime Minister Gordon Brown named as pedophile.

1:40:45 Then there's one about Alex Salmond, leader of the Scottish Parliament, established pedophile networks, how they operate. That actually is about the Franklin cover-up. I mean it's really fascinating, frightening stuff. And it makes so much sense because this is why whenever they want to shut us up and shut us down, and of course now the ACTA, The Copyright Act, which is going to be a global way of shutting down free speech on the internet, is all about saving the children, the pedophiles. They know exactly what they're doing because they are the ones guilty of it. That's why they use it. to make themselves look good.

1:41:43 Obviously, there's a reason for it other than censorship at what level and for what purpose. In China, you can kind of imagine it's because the Chinese are freaky about managing all those huge population. They don't need troublemakers getting on the internet. The rationale for this in the Western countries is sketchy. But I don't know. I think you're right, it's a topic that probably should be avoided. Yeah, because this is the absolute way to get two to the head real quick. With that said, how come Ike hasn't been killed? Well, he just started this one. He just started on this. And I pray for the guy.

1:42:27 But you know the good news is... I mean, it always reminds me of the, oh, you know, I'm going to tell you all these things about flying saucers that nobody can talk about because they're going to kill you and he's on a ten year tour. No, the good news is this is why I am the crackpot because they can just say, the guy's a crackpot. I'm your crackpot. You know, that's the easiest way. You're going to get me killed then. Yeah, let's not do that because who else is going to read the donation list? Yeah, no, the topic is interesting and it's whatever. Okay, anything else? Geez, thanks a lot. Yeah, we can read this link on your own time. Here's my favorite that came in earlier. So of course, some European news. Greece is still in the middle of

1:43:15 of a huge crisis because they are like the California of Europe. They're broke and who's going to have to bail them out? The other rich countries, the big ones being France and Germany. So according to BBC, political allies of German Chancellor Angela Merkel says, here's what Greece should do. They should consider selling some of their islands. There you go. Which I think is, this is how it works. This is exactly how it works. We bankrupt you and as well known now and this is the old this is the old in for the economic hitman approach. This is exactly it and it's documented that Goldman Sachs helped them cover up their their losses. Goldman Sachs actually is to this day lots of links in the show notes is helping countries

1:44:11 hedge bets against the euro and against other sovereign debt. So now these are countries who are betting in the financial markets against each other and Goldman Sachs is facilitating all of this. Credit default swaps. It's funny. It's just funny. And now we have Iceland, which we've kind of stayed away from, but they're going to hold a referendum. I think it may be even tomorrow. And because what happened is the banks there which you know were operating as private banks They've lost everything blew out all this money the Dutch and the and the and the British government's paid the people that their losses and then went to Iceland and said well now the people of Iceland are gonna have to pay and

1:44:58 And so Iceland is struggling, this poor little country is trying to get out from under this. This is the true economic hitman because the Dutch and the British will own Iceland. They're just going to take over the whole country. Like, thank you, we own you. Shut up, slaves. And it's really happening. It's really happening. We need a lot of puffin'. From the... Oh, I get to play it, I guess. We told you so on No Agenda. Recall of Nissan cars. There's the other shoe dropping on Screw You Japan, shut up about our debt after the Toyota recall. Now Nissan's recalling or is being forced to recall. So it has nothing, and it's just crazy. I had dinner the other night with a PR executive for Lexus and I laid it out, right? I said, you know what this is? I literally threw a crackpot no agenda at him. I said,

1:46:04 This is just the US government telling Japan to shut up and buy our debt and don't mess with it. And he said absolutely He said you're absolutely right said I can show you all the other You know accelerator issues with with American cars this you know, this does happen. This is absolutely a whole big political thing and Yeah, I think you're right. By the way, the one thing you didn't mention was, you know, talking about the earthquake machine earlier, was the fact that Taiwan had an earthquake hit just after they did a deal. One of our producers pointed this out. After they just, just after they did a deal to get arms from the US and so then they get hit with a quake. There's a lot of quakes right in a row here.

1:46:54 We told you so, but no one can tell. Yeah, or as we say... Coincidence? I think not! Of course not. I'm not buying it completely, but I like it. I was going to do a couple of magic numbers just as a little intermezzo. Go. Copper price after the Chile earthquake, as you know, the mines had to close and of course these mines have huge investments from the Chinese. Current price after the quake $3.33 a pound and another news report which just proves our lucky numbers are always on the money in what has become a familiar pattern, they even say it right off the bat, a third suicide bomber dressed as a police officer detonated his bomb in the middle of a crowded hospital ward in Iraq, 30 casualties. It just doesn't get any better.

1:47:55 It's unbelievable. Because these numbers, they stick with people and somehow they have some magical power and people believe it. I think here, 30 casualties. Okay, now you're supposed to read this article and you use words 1, 5, 14. It's like a quarterback. I think it's basically, I think you see the word dirty and that means there may be something in there, some information you need as a field agent to go do something. Oh, that's a good point. From the... Sorry, I jumped the gun on you. Monsanto? I don't think it's from the Monsanto field agents. No, I have something from the Monsanto files for Europe. I'm over in Europe, man. There's all kinds of cool news.

1:48:40 The European Commission, that's Starfleet Command to you and I, began a new push Tuesday to allow farmers in Europe to grow more biocrops, clearing a genetically modified potato for cultivation despite persistent public opposition to the technology. This potato produced by BASF, the same people who brought you Zyklon, I believe? What the hell do you need a new potato for? There's thousands of varieties. We have to kill you. In the first step... There's something like 10,000 varieties of potato in Peru alone, something like this. Some ridiculous number. In the first step in more than a decade, the commission approved the Amflora potato, even sounds bad, produced by the German company BASF, also known for their audio tapes, for cultivation inside the 27-country European Union.

1:49:40 Can you believe it? And we could see the potatoes planted in Europe as soon as next month. Oh, this is not good. The potato is engineered to be unusually rich in a starch suitable for making glossy paper and other products as well as for feeding animals. Bad, bad, bad. Currently, the only other biotech crop grown in Europe is a type of corn approved by... Do I have to say it? Monsanto. Did you call this Starfleet what? The European Commission I call Starfleet Command. Oh no, it should be the Starfleet Enema Command. So this is, I mean, genetically modified food, illegal and outlawed in Gitmo Nation East, in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, ever since that fine Lisbon Treaty which was rammed down your throat and extracted through your anal cavity, this is what you get. Hence Starfleet Enema.

1:50:40 And of course we have our friend Nigel Farage who called the president of the United States of Europe a dishrag and called the nation of Belgium a non-country. Well, he got spanked. And I have, I'll put the... By the Queen? No, he got spanked by the Polish guy, the president of Starfleet Command. And well, here's Nigel Farage to tell you exactly what's... Today I was off to the Headmasters Study at 12 o'clock, high noon, to see the President of the European Parliament, to talk about my intervention in the debate last week with European President Herman Van Rompuy.

1:51:25 We talked about free speech and I told him that I thought the limits of free speech were the incitement of violence, not the expression of a political opinion within what is supposed to be a parliament. He said that wasn't good enough and what I had to do was to apologise. I had to apologise to Herman Van Rompuy, I had to apologise to the European Parliament and I had to apologise to the state of Belgium. Well, I made it clear to her that I wasn't prepared to apologise to any of them, but I would issue a full apology to bank clerks worldwide, just in case I offended any of them. Well, he didn't take very long to decide what he would do. And just in the last few minutes I've been told that I'm going to be fined the maximum fine that they're allowed to fine us under the parliamentary rules. I'm being fined 2,980 euros. Free speech in the European Parliament is very expensive. 3,000 euros for a damn rag. So that was his public YouTube statement, but something a little more interesting

1:52:22 is what he said on a Kibwa Nation East, I forget, I don't know if it was a television show, probably a television show. I'm going to go past a little bit of the setup because I want you to hear, I'm just going to drop in the middle of it here because he actually explains the real outrage is not about calling that fan room boy a dishrag with the appearance of a low-level bank clerk. But it's really about Belgium and why is what is interesting to hear him talk about. compared with the Westminster Parliament. No, no, I'm asking you whether you regret saying of somebody that he has the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk. You'll be losing the low-grade bank clerk's vote towards you at the next election. I certainly, well I accept that David. You can't please all of the people all of the time. But let me explain what they're really upset about and why the Prime Minister of Belgium tonight is demanding that some sort of disciplinary action is taken against me. Belgium

1:53:31 Belgium, I mean the country was an artificial construction and we're now at a point where the Flems and the Walloons are barely on speaking terms. For nine months of last year there wasn't even a government in Belgium. Now Belgium is a prototype for the entire European Union. Belgium is going to split, it'll do it within the next few years. The Flems want their own independent free state and when you criticize Belgium you criticize the flaws European Union model and that's why I'm really upset with me. Janet Street Porter. You see? Because that's exactly what they wanted to be. They want all of these countries to be non-countries and just shut up and listen to Brussels. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I think, dude, I'm right on. I'm right on with him. What an interesting guy.

1:54:19 Yeah, the problem is you end up with, I mean it sounds good, this is again this world government approach to things where if you can just get everybody to stop being ethnically anything and just Listen to a central source of authority in worldwide, hopefully. We won't have any more wars or any problems that they're going to, you know, cause a lot of people buy into because it sounds very Kumbaya and you think, yeah, lots and lots. Nobody listens to this show. Doesn't history. Thank you. Doesn't history show that that is not the way it will work out?

1:54:55 No, it always ends up Balkanizing, it ends up like Yugoslavia, they always end up splitting up and you always end up with these Bosnian conflicts, you always end up with ethnic cleansing, you always end up with this sort of McCoy Hatfield hatred because of somebody's granddad, especially in Europe where they have a long memory and they make sure to have a long memory or even in parts of Asia where they have a long memory because they've been trained since the days where their history was passed on just by discussion. you end up with a bunch of people killing each other in minor civil wars and then that's where I think you're gonna have a nuke exchange because someone's gonna get a hold of one of these bombs and they're gonna be irked about something. And people think they're always, you know, why one part of the country will get more money than another part of the country? There's this jealousy, then there's separation of poor and rich. I mean, there's just a million things that make this not work. It's actually better to have

1:55:51 countries with really strong borders and personal identities that can stand alone if they have to. You can't do that if you outsource everything and you make one part of the world, just all the manufacturing, another part of the world is all the bankers, another part of the world, you know, grows grass in another part of the world, you know, grows phony potatoes. Which by the way is exactly what is going to happen as our dollar will probably be devalued by 30% by the end of this year and a lot of farmers are going to go out of business in the United States. They're just going to ship it in from other places and just make more and more money.

1:56:27 And it's gonna be all your shipping and right now I went to Monterey Foods the other day which is our local of market that has mostly produce and I mean almost everything was from Mexico and Whole Foods by the way sorry to interrupt Whole Foods half of their stuff is from Mexico you got you look at you know this organic stuff yeah right big scam you look at the bottom is all from Mexico it's all from Mexico Yeah, we don't do any double cropping here in the California even though I mean what they've done in California to make Mexico happen so well I hate that and I'm not gonna it's not a conspiracy thing but it seems to me is that the liberals who run this state have done everything they can to cut the water off from the Central Valley and the farmers are

1:57:09 literally dying of starvation and meanwhile the stuff is flowing in from Mexico like there's no tomorrow and a lot of it could be grown here and we've lost a couple of crop seasons because of this. Supposedly the Delta smelt, a little bitty fish is being protected and you can't run the water like we always used to do down the valley into the farms. So they're letting them dry up. So the whole central valley is starting to look like the Owens Valley, which is the creepiest place in the world. It used to be a rich agricultural area. They diverted the water so Los Angelinos like you could have a glass of water once in a while and keep the pools full. And keep their lawns green and do all these waste things.

1:57:52 you know, so they can, so it's basically starting out in the Owens Valley. So anyone flying from Las Vegas to Los Angeles or even from Las Vegas to some other parts passing over the Owens Valley can look down at what's an out and out desert and still see outlines of where the farmers once were that are all now deserted and abandoned because of the water situation. I'm guilty. It's been a political thing in California. And now it's being done to keep the, so Mexican produce comes in because you can do it cheaper down there and you can, you know, just, you can make it, you can literally grow a bell pepper. This is, here, you have to ask yourself about this. You can grow a bell pepper someplace in the middle of nowhere, Mexico, and truck it all the way, this one bell pepper, all the way to Berkeley, and put it in the store and sell it for a buck 19. It's just the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

1:58:47 I'm so sorry about my swimming pool. Hold on, let me take care of myself. Well, I already played your pet peeve of the day, so I can't lay it on you. Yeah, I can't do two pet peeves, I actually had three today. Yeah. By the way, I'm not buying into your thinking that the dollar is going to be developed by 30%. I think this whole thing's a scam. The European, you should listen to yesterday's Dvorak Horowitz, we talk about this. Europe is essentially bankrupt. The British, the UK is down the tubes. The Greece thing is a fake. The whole thing's a scam. And if anything's going to happen, the dollar's going to go up in value.

1:59:27 So you can listen to that at noagendastream.com. The new episode, episode 55 I believe is up of Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged and I have not had a chance to listen to it but I will. And I'm very interested to hear about the Greek thing being a scam. Another scam which luckily is now being brought to the attention of the American people is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security, Führdashinterland in America has 200,000 contractors. They're paying... I wanted to do this story, good one. 200,000 contractors. But wait, Adam, how many employees do they have on top of that? I'm just gonna guess, I'm just gonna say they probably have half a million.

2:00:15 No, they have a hundred and eighty thousand employees and more contractors than employees. So it's almost half a million altogether, right? It's three, three hundred and it's almost four hundred thousand. Unbelievable. And these contractors, here's a little something from WLS. We've outsourced our homeland security. Yes. Well listen to what's happening in Afghanistan This is about the horrible death of Lance Corporal Josh Josh Birchfield field who was shot to death by private security contractors hired by the US government in Afghanistan. Listen to the circumstances. A US Marine from Northern Indiana was killed in Afghanistan and tonight the ABC7I team has learned that defense officials are investigating whether Lance Corporal Josh Birchfield was shot to death by private security contractors, contractors hired by the US government.

2:01:11 Good evening, Birchfield's fellow Marines say those Afghan guards were high on opium at the time. There you go. High on opium. In other words, heroin. Well, opium. It could be opium straight up. Red gold. Big H. Texas T. The white pony. Our drug references are so bad. There's a couple of canonical lists of drug references. We should get a couple of them and just start rattling them off. Would you like to, yeah? Well if you're going to talk about Afghanistan for a minute, oh man we're already right. I know we're crazy over time, I know. Hey, people are getting their money's worth. Yeah, that's true. Make sure that noagendashow.com and devorek.org slash NA, I feel a little better about it if we get some good donations this week.

2:02:03 Because we are closing the No Agenda stream donations as soon as the show posts. You have a whole bunch of clips left. I wanted to play a couple of them. Charlie Rose had Petraeus on his show. For those who don't know, Charlie Rose is the intelligent talk show on PBS, another national treasure. which uh... survives uh... by the uh... by donations of viewers and of let me see my companies like uh... general electric and archer daniel middleton all the rest of the all of them right and charlie rose i i didn't think about join listen to these two clips you're gonna just gonna take a few minutes but first repatriate starts about leaving afghanistan and rose starts to guide him into what to say as the road roses been pre-briefed actually think he is actually

2:02:53 briefed on what these things are almost close to being rehearsed and you can tell when you listen to the way the conversation goes, especially the second part of it. Explain who Petraeus is for those who don't know. Petraeus is the head honcho general that runs everything and he's the over McChrystal and he's the one that's in the, you know, essentially he's the top guy right now that has, that runs Iraq and Afghan wars and I find the guy, I've never seen him speak before, And I saw him on this show, I have to take some photos of the screen, some screenshots of it. This guy has got some problems. I mean, I thought McChrystal was a nutcase, but this guy, he comes on the show, he's got his four giant stars on a special uniform. Generals get to design their own uniform. So whatever they're wearing, you know, it's official. And all that stuff is very important, by the way. We should deconstruct uniforms one of these days because symbols have very deep, mysterious meaning that we probably don't know enough about.

2:03:48 Now, we could have a, the general could come on a civilian show wearing a suit, an Armani suit, and if he wanted to be, make it an official uniform, he could have four stars embroidered on one of the collars, and he could wear maybe one or two of his pins that he thinks is extremely important. He could do anything he wants. But instead, he comes out and I swear to God, he looks like a two-bit general in Ecuador. He's got a million Billion little pins on one side. He's got badges and stickers and he's got a Big name tag that's made out of black plastic that is drilled out. Petraeus. He doesn't have a no agenda night ring though. It's Unbelievable. He is wearing so much swag. It's just hanging off of him. He's got so much crap hanging off of him All I was missing was the big giant hat. I

2:04:40 with a bunch of crap on it. The Puba hat, like Karzai. I mean, he looked like a South American stooge. It was unbelievable. And he's given us all this talk. I was disgusted by his outfit, to be honest about it. And the military knows you don't have to come out in this situation in a civilian show on PBS dressed like this ridiculous character. with all this garbage hanging off of you? I mean, yeah, okay. He's got an ex... Use the word garbage because I can't believe that every one of those pins that he's wearing is for some famous battle or something. Can I play the clip? Can I play the clip, honey? You need to calm down. Leaving Afghanistan. Here comes the clip. What happened during the review that convinced the president to make the decisions that he did? Give us a sense, not so much inside the president's mind, but that

2:05:31 as well. What conclusions did most people sitting at the table come to? Well, I think it was a very productive process. And, you know, at the time there was oh gosh, sorry, is this the right clip? Is this leaving Afghanistan or Charlie Rose guiding betray us? I'm sorry. Wrong one. Yeah, you're right. Here we go.

2:06:12 It is, it is. So that's the initial operation of this campaign plan. That's the first output, if you will, and still in the very early stages. And this of course was just to go and really have all the poppy fields under their control in Marjah, right? Well, that's probably true. Just a couple of weeks into it and this will stretch out as I said over the next 18 months or so and of course at the end of that we're looking at that date that the president announced as the point at which we begin begin begin a conditions-based transition of some tasks. That was total NLP by the way. Begin, begin, begin. Three times begin. Yep.

2:06:54 That was total neuro-linguistic programming. Let's do it again. A conditions-based transition of some tasks to Afghan security forces and begin this responsible... Why was it necessary to set a date? I think the president was trying to convey two messages. You missed it. I did, I'm sorry. Back it up a little more. He's gonna, this is where I start picking up on Rose, obviously doing presidential talking points. He asked him out of the blue just specifically, why is it important to set a date? Which is of course, a counter to what the Republicans like to say, well you set a date and then all the other guys, they know what the date is. But they don't even mention that by the way, but it's just one of these leading questions that has just looked like it was a talking point thing to me. But the begin, begin, begin thing is quite good.

2:07:44 and this will stretch out, as I said, over the next 18 months or so. And of course at the end of that, we're looking at that date that the president announced as the point at which we begin, begin, begin a conditions-based transition of some tasks to Afghanistan. Wait a minute, was that Rose doing the second begin? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Oh my God, it's amazing. Begin, begin, begin, begin, begin, begin. When will it begin? Begin, begin, begin. Shut up slave. It will begin. The point at which we begin, begin, begin a conditions based transition of some tasks to Afghan security forces and begin this responsible. Why was it necessary to set a date?

2:08:26 I think the president was trying to convey two messages and I think they were equally important. One is a message of substantially increased commitment. This is the additional forces, civilians, money and so on. And then there was also a message of urgency and I think that was important to send. That was not just a domestic political audience device. This was an audience in Kabul. This is an audience in some other areas that we've got to get on with this. It might be an audience in uniform, you know, that we got to get on with it. Oh man. So, I'll say now, so we get to the second half and this goes on forever by the way. John, John, should we maybe save this for Sunday?

2:09:11 Because well no because it's too you right now you're hearing Rose you're gonna have to run it we're just gonna have to go over time. This will be the last bit. Hang on because we're gonna be going overtime on the show. Yes this is a I'm a member of that this is a message to the No Agenda affiliates those of you rebroadcasting us on streams and on low-powered transmitters and high-powered transmitters around the globe please hold off your local news we'll be going overtime it's a critical we do this. And because you've got the Rose voice going, you're hearing the neuro-linguistic stuff. Now, Petraeus seems to drop the ball here. Probably he's getting so tired from trying to sit up straight with all that crap on him. And he is going to be led by the nose by Rose. Rose by the nose. What happened during the review that convinced the president to make the decisions that he did?

2:10:05 Give us a sense, not so much inside the President's mind, but that as well. What conclusions did most people sitting at the table come to? Well, I think it was a very productive process. And you know, at the time there was, oh gosh, this is taking a long time. I thought this was terrific, actually. I mean, this is a process where the president himself had, I think it was nine or ten engagements, some of which were over two hours long. I mean, there's one I think approached three hours. That's a huge investment of time. The result was though, everyone really having a common understanding of what the objectives were after really batting around these objectives and asking, are we asking something that's beyond realization? Are we really trying to create Switzerland and Afghanistan? This kind of thing. And so there was a refinement of objectives, there was a common understanding

2:10:59 of how best to achieve that and I think at the end of the day the president was convinced that the best way to achieve that was this comprehensive civil military campaign plan that was laid out and that required those additional resources. Before that he had to be convinced of two things. Number one that... Charlie Rose was there, he had like some inside information, he knew what the president needed to have. Whatever the goal was it was achievable and secondly it was something that was in the American national interest. sufficient heroin to put American men and women at risk? Yeah, well, let's never forget why we're there. It is important to recall, and this was recalled a number of different times, if you will, the core objective in Afghanistan is to make sure that that country does not once again become a sanctuary or safe haven for Al Qaeda or other transnational extremists. Realizing that those 9-11 attacks were planned in Kandahar

2:12:01 The initial turning of the... Oh, what? Planed in Kandahar? Yeah. They're making it up as they go along now. They're literally... They're changing the narrative. This is like an improv session. This is like actors on the stage just making shit up as they go along. It's unbelievable. Let's never forget the 9-11 attacks were planned in Kandahar. Oh my god. I remember when we attacked him was to go get Osama Bin Laden. Yeah, no it was all planned and carried out. But Lonn's not mentioned at all in the interview that I can recall. Hey Mickey, I'm sorry. What? And we got one more thing to mention. We do have a picture of Petraeus' outfit with some of his badges. Not all of it. Let me just mention a few of them. Joint

2:12:45 meritorious unit award, army superior unit award, army matorious unit commendation, master parachutist, air assault badge, is this guy insecure? I mean, I don't want a general like this. Wait, wait, wait. I don't want a general that's this insecure. He's got to put all this armor on. He actually has a... DOOSHBANG! ...award. uh... defense superior so this guy i bet when he was a kid when he was in high school had a big keychain Olympic pins all over a hall monitor. All right, John. We got to stop this. Okay. Now I want to say well, okay, we're gonna end the show I won't be able to do the Leno thing today. We can do it on Sunday. I do want to play after the show's over. We got a We got some that's just a little too topical not to let go but it is the end of show after the music's play where I'm gonna play Sarah Palin stand-up and

2:13:39 Because apparently Leno interviewed her and said she wants to do stand-up. So he introduced her as a stand-up comic She does about four minutes and it's moderately humorous, but it's an interesting thing for something politico to do So that's gonna be it for this week. Sorry. It took took so long, you know we really need to reorganize our calendars and do a third show or something because this is out of hand and I haven't eaten for eight hours. Between... Nobody complained. It's 8.30 now. I haven't eaten since lunch. This is crazy. This is nuts. Alright, noagendershow.com, dvorak.org, channeldvorak.com, for your donations. I think we've deserved it today.

2:14:23 Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, lowlands, from the 17th Century Canal House, Crackpot Command Center, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the sun is shining, and I'm John C. Dvorak. We will be back with you once again, maybe a little shorter. It'll happen on Sunday. Join us for early service right here on NO Agenda. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm very excited, Kev. We have a new comedian on the show tonight. Really? She's from Wasilla, Alaska. Oh, yeah. Making her comedy debut, please welcome Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin. Hi! Thank you!

2:15:20 be here. This is a thrill of a lifetime, really. And Alaska being so different from Los Angeles. Here, when people have a frozen look on their face, I find out it's Botox. We're here though, so warm, beautiful. Back home, it was freezing. It was five degrees below Congress' approval rating. Good night, Shawn White on the show. Oh, what an amazing athlete. I watched him do a double McTwist 1260. And the only other people to do a double McTwist 1260 was last week, the White House on health care. Great to be on the same show as Shawn White. Last time I was this close to the flying tomato was when someone threw one at me at a book signing.

2:16:20 It's true. I watched the Winter Olympics, skiing, fighting on the ice, skating, bobsledding. In Alaska, that's our morning commute. How about that amazing closing ceremony? It was beautiful. The minute I saw the giant moose, I remembered, hadn't cooked anything for the kids' dinner. Really busy. And I have been really busy. Picked up a gig in Las Vegas at the Legends show, playing Tina Fey. Next I get the headline I'll be the speaker at the NRA convention. So I'm glad that I'm not vice president. I'm glad because I would not know what to do with all that free time.

2:17:17 Thank you so much for inviting me. I saw where it's been a few weeks of unfair, nonstop criticism. People who don't know the real story and I just say, Jay, welcome to my world. All right, Sarah Palin. Thank you, Sarah. Good to see you.