Control Grid

00:00 Subjugation! Destruction! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Thursday June 5th 2025 This is your award winning Give My Nation Media assassination episode 1770 This is no agenda No Mo' Bromance and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it looks like it's warming up, I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, it was all... I didn't think anything. Nothing to say That's what i mean completely inspired Oh, its a show? Okay, lets warm up Show day weather looks slow windy Warming up, warming up Not much going on Man Trump is so smart Now what He got it! It's perfect People are so dense Everybody in a tizzy

01:05 Elon, Elon is mad at the big beautiful bill. It can be big it could be beautiful but it can't be both well he went even further his posting is disgusting and President Trump has taken questions right now with Mr. Peepers in the Oval saying I'm very very... That's still going no that can't still be going on With Peepers? As we speak you have your monitors up there are they're stil talking The quad is the quad is everyone's showing President Trump saying I'm very disappointed in Elon How stupid can everybody be? In a blistering 10 post high rate on X, Elon Musk torched president trump signature spending plan known as the... That's news for you. That's ABC News And by the way that is also a teaser for tip of the day

01:58 Torched President Trump's signature spending plan known as the big beautiful bill, calling it a disgusting abomination and accused lawmakers of passing a massive outrageous pork filled bill that will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit. The president already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill doesn't change the president's opinion. Musk's criticism widens public rift with the Trump administration and its allies. With all due respect My friend Elon is terribly wrong. The bill could have a major impact on Elon Musk's businesses, it would phase out tax credits for electric vehicles possibly impacting the bottom line at Tesla and it would regulate artificial intelligence Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene who voted for the bill in the house last month now says she did not realize the bill includes its

02:47 10-year federal ban on states regulating AI. Green posting, I am adamantly opposed to this and it is a violation of state rights and i would have voted no if i had known this was in there so there's a lot here in this one minute report first of all Marjorie Taylor Greene does not read in And she is very afraid because Elon Musk has said, I'm gonna pull out my wallet. I'm going to primary anybody who voted for this disgusting thing Well it's no real surprise that this has happened We've seen various tensions between the two They tried to play happy families as Musk exited the White House last week But he has been a staunch opponent of this we found out on just recently On Sunday actually in an interview with CBS News

03:34 Well now this though is his most daring tweet about this big beautiful bill, as Donald Trump calls it. Musk tweeting I'm sorry but i just can't stand it anymore this massive outrageous pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination shame on those who voted for us you know you did wrong that you know it's now he also doubled down on this in the hours that followed he then tweeted in November next year ie the midterms We fire all politicians who betrayed the American people. Congress is making America bankrupt." Now, the White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt was asked about this at the press briefing today and she said look the President already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill it doesn't change the president's opinion This is one big beautiful bill and he's sticking to it well indeed The White House IS standing by that bill saying it will reduce government spending but

04:26 The man they put in charge of cutting government spending, Elon Musk clearly disagrees. So this is like a triple thing that's going on here not for a second do I believe the bromance is over first of all Elon he needs to get back to his business He needs to show everybody that well you know like but I'm really not all for this You can come back and buy my cars That's one. Two, we gotta smoke out all the traitors! We got to smoke them out the people who are just flip-floppy wishy washy like Marjorie Taylor Greene who apparently didn't even read the bill that's fantastic well if I knew that was in there i wouldn't have voted for it what are you voting for then? Thomas Massey Rand and uh and what's the uh Ron Johnson

05:20 They're all like, oh yeah no no this is no good and they're even publicly saying we want Elon to fund primary challengers. And it's bringing out all kinds of right-wing publications talking about these you know about the turncoats so it's one get Elon back at work two smoke out the people who are not on the president's team and three its guaranteed to pass now No one's gonna go against Elon Musk. They're not going to jump in with him all of a sudden, no you can't like just turn around and say oh I love Elon. Well not after that fiasco in Wisconsin Oh the cheesehead thing?

06:05 No, when he put tons of money behind that judge who lost. Yeah that's when he had the cheese on his head. You put a cheese head on? I have one of those! Of course you do! They fall apart after awhile...I don't know what it is made out of but because it just one of those things that oxidizes and starts crumbling it becomes a disaster Yes so this is an obvious gambit It's so clear, but everybody... Oh you know this is about Elon's business. He doesn't like it because of his business. What? Because he's not going to get SpaceX deals? Please! Because of the phase-out of the subsidy on electric vehicles? Please!

06:47 And it gives the M5M all kinds of reasons to speculate and, yeah we knew this would end. It's all over! Yeah they don't even know how to break up these boys." The president has remained uncharacteristically quiet as Elon Musk continues to attack this bill. Attack! It's obviously kind of a... I don't know if it's a tricky situation for both them but what you make his silence? This by the way is the guy who wrote the article Which he's been doing the rounds everywhere. All of a sudden, Mark Caputo... Scoop! Scoop! This is on Axios. Scoop! Colon. Four reasons Musk attacks Trumps big beautiful bill Here are the four reasons The legislation cuts the electric vehicle tax that helps car makers like Musk Tesla

07:37 Which really phases out over many years. Two, Musk was working at the White House as what's called a special government employee He discussed trying to stay beyond the 138 time limit he's pissed about that Three, Musk wanted the Federal Aviation Administration uses Starlink satellite system for national air traffic control But it's not happening! The administration balked and the final straw appeared to come Saturday night when Trump abruptly announced he was withdrawing the nomination of Jared Isaacman, a Musk ally to be NASA administrator. Yeah that's the reason and this guy is everywhere set up obvious

08:22 Yeah, I think it is a tricky situation for both of them. Elon Musk is the richest guy in the world He owns the most important social media platform No disrespect to true social And he's very popular with a big segment of Trump's coalition, including a lot of people in Congress. Meanwhile, Trump is very popular with a lot of people like Elon Musk. It's sort of like that old expression where you ride a tiger until you have to get off and that's when the tiger eats you. These guys have been taking turns riding each others' fame and cults of personality and they just don't know how... They don't know how to break up!

09:01 And it creates real political problems for both of them, and it's kind of fascinating to watch. How does it create political problems for Elon Musk? He doesn't have a political career. You have new reporting about why — about more personal reasons why Musk may be unhappy with the president including the White House withdrawing the nomination of a Musk ally to head NASA, the FAA balking at using Starlink for national air traffic control and you know what maybe unhappy about tax credits for electric vehicles being cut by the bill, which is something that Speaker Johnson mentioned yesterday. You broke this story was a big scoop. You also report Musk actually wanted to remain a special government employee past the legal 130-day limit and this was after he gifted was gifted that golden key

09:43 Donald Trump does like Elon Musk. Now he's kind of annoyed and not really happy with Musk teeing off on the legislation the way it has, and there is a whole bunch discussion to be had about that but in the end he respects Elon Musk, he likes Elon Musk And that's partly informing this very rare impulse control from President Trump. The other thing I'm told by White House... Yeah, all of a sudden President Trump has impulse control! It's amazing what could possibly be going on? Officials is that Trump doesn't really want to feed this anymore and they don't want to give more oxygen to Elon Musk

10:22 These are my words, not theirs. But I can tell that there's sort of a hope that Musk will sort of punch himself out. However as you've seen from Musk's personal life where he has had a number of nasty breakups his breakups and the end of his relationships with people sometimes in rather acrimonious way and we're seeing little sign of that here with the president at least one way from Musk to President Trump Chum is in the water and the minnows are all over it, especially on the right. It's amazing! How can people not... Do you not know Trumps algorithm by now? Have you not figured it out?! That just is baffling to me and on right on cue

11:08 in the troll room. Yeah, this is all to cover up the Palantir news! Well I'm glad you brought that up Trollmattin. Yes we have a note We do...we have boots on the ground from an insider at Palantir I've been asked to keep... What was the Palantir news? Oh, there was just a rumor wasn't it. Just a gossipy thing No no no Trump is gonna use Palantir to create a profile of every American and then he's gonna do something with it Where did that where was that released as news oh I had yes last time in the show knows hold on second I'll look up for you we didn't even get to it because I knew right away like all right Palantir

11:52 Here we go, New York Times. Would that make sense? That our very own trolls fall for that? Alex Carp co- here headline Palantir to compile data on Americans. Alex Carp co-founder chief executive of Palantir at a forum in Washington in April Trump has not publicly talked about the effort, but behind-the-scenes officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable... This is not a new story. This is speculative story Well it's based upon what this Alex Karp said at this forum in Washington

12:30 And the Trump administration has expanded Palantir's work across the federal government in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million dollars in federal government, that is a bad contract by the way you got to be at least a bill since Mr. Trump took office according to public records including additional funds from existing contracts as well as new contracts for Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon! The push has put a key pound to your product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies including DHS, Health and Human Services Department widely adopting foundry which organizes and analyzes data paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies imagine that Wow you mean like the DMV from Washington State talking to the DMV from California so they can find out you're drunk? Imagine that

13:27 Sir. So we have, uh... We got our boots on the ground from an insider from Palantir, his credentials check out. And of course he's been asked... He has asked us to keep him identity anonymous and his work history which is interesting. Yes that would be a giveaway I was recruited by Palantir to help stand up its AML platform That's Anti-Money Laundering Platform Platforms like this use machine learning models To confirm identity and detect suspicious transaction activity To do this, they used mountains of data from various clearinghouses and data from other clients. Late in the interview cycle I requested to speak with the head of product. I asked him how they sourced their seed data for machine language training? He informed me that he had no data! Part of my job is to get agreements in place with tier 1 banks to source that data so they can begin training models. Based on this, I declined the job."

14:22 People like Whitney Webb would have you believe Palantir's scraping all of our data for Mossad. There it is Stop. That's the best part of the note. If that were the case, Palantir would have more than enough data to train their AML models they have exactly zero data in-house meaning she is full of crap! What Palantir actually does is provide the platform for organizations to perform machine learning training off their own data This is exactly what Trump wants Palantir to do for the various executive agencies. I get the arguments why this could be bad, but there are very real reasons why this is a great thing! Medicaid paid Thomson Reuters $5 million dollars for the Social Security Administration death master file data. Yes, the government paid 5 million to a Canadian company for its own data. This is only one example that I am directly familiar with but I'm sure there are dozens

15:16 The government's data infrastructure is an ungodly mess and if we can fix it with Palantir, it could help eliminate social security and tax fraud. And speed up every government service." That makes sense! That was what Doge was doing connecting databases, connecting data sources I also see this as a good thing. I do too But oh no... This is exactly the Whitney Webb thing Yeah, Whitney Webb. And it's not just Whitney Webb... I wasn't even planning on rolling this out this early It is also Katherine Austin Fitz because you know how many times we have either discussed or talked about Katherine Austin Fitz on the podcast?

16:07 I do not know, but her name does ring a bell. It's almost close to 100 times... No! Yes go to bingit.io in the past 17 and 1⁄2 years it's really quite... She sneaks in a lot. She does sneak in a lot And we just noticed that now? NO! We need Palantir But she was on the Danny Jones podcast. Just let's just pretend we know who Danny Jones is, but he's got views when we promise ourselves we do more with the alternative media now. The question because she well, the question is Trump is big on Bitcoin.

16:46 Now listen to how she answers without even mentioning Bitcoin at all and what she immediately states as fact. So Trump has been super, this current administration or at least when Trump was running he was very pro-Bitcoin? Trump was put in by the bankers to get the control grid. The other team in the Union of Power wasn't moving fast enough, they couldn't get the control grid. Wait wait I didn't understand what she said she says he was put into the bankers blah blah blah I couldn't understand what she said would you say?

17:22 She speaks quite eloquently. I'll repeat it and play it again Trump was put in by the bankers to put into control grid This, by the way she was in the housing administration, I think she was reasonably senior within the US government And her whole thing has been control grid, Mr. Globalist I don't know who that is but they've stolen all our money okay well yeah duh all the money's been stolen But it's all about the control grid everything Palantir she's like the adult Whitney Webb

17:59 Trump was put in by the bankers to get the control grid. The other team in the unipower he wasn't moving fast enough They couldn't get the control grid I've never, I say you a link We just did a new collection of all the things Trump is doing to move the control grid He's moving very very fast when it comes to building so... Hold on a sec So yeah Richard Johnson troll We didn't say Trump combining all the info the government has on Americans into a big database is a good thing. We didn't say that! When Elon Musk was connecting all of the databases, everyone loved it

18:36 Think with your head, man. First he's getting the Real ID implemented very aggressively. Real ID to do a control grid you need a very high quality precision national ID Yeah that's what that little star on my driver's license is it's a very high quality high precision national ID That's pretty Trump It has been going on for decades Yeah, way pre-Trump. Interoperable with all the other IDs around the world and he's got Kristi Noem out there pushing the real ID like they're Snow Tomorrow I agree. I haven't heard her say shit about that real ID. We even played a clip of her talking about it yeah we did okay yeah in fact make sure I'm uh... RealID Nome yeah here it is

19:28 Hi, I'm Christine Ohm the United States Secretary of Homeland Security if you plan on traveling We need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity get a real ID Starting May 7th. You will need a real ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States She's definitely pushing it like no one else's business But to me it's just a big distraction from the obvious facial recognition that's going on at every airport Don't eat a real ID for that They're just taking my image. Don't worry, we'll delete it within 24 hours." It won't delete anything! Real ID implemented very aggressively... real ID to do a control grid you need a very high quality precision national ID that's interoperable with all the other IDs around the world and he's got Kristi Noem out there pushing the real ID like there is no tomorrow I don't know how it's interoperable

20:23 Is there a real ID database I'm unaware of that every single country has tapped into? No. So they're working and it's done through the states but the feds are pushing it so the first thing you need is a digital id, the second thing you need is an all-digital financial system so you got to kill cash and you got to make everybody interact digitally and if you look at what he's doing with taxes and social security trying to make everybody You know, he's canceled pennies but he's also canceled now. Normally I pay my taxes with paper and now he is saying you gotta do everything digital for... it's not this year but next year. Really? So if you go through that list of stuff like Oh my gosh! John, you and I, Do you even send a check? I still send checks to the IRS. Do you send a check or do you do it online? You don't do it at all Mimi does it But let's just pretend we know

21:15 It's we have actually have to because we had our identity stolen like a number of years ago Yeah, we Mimi actually has to go in in person In person to the IRS and hand them a check Wow well she better bring her real ID She won't get in the office but wait she Catherine Austen Fitts is about to bring in my favorite topic. Really? So he's trying to, if you go through that list I've got like 50 different items of what he's doing and if you...I would love to see the list of fifty different items of what he's doing! She's got that nervous

21:56 that tick, nervous tick. That voice of hers is enough to make you not believe a word she says." Even though she's very smart, she sees a lot of things correctly but this... You know like Trump was brought in by the bankers to get the control grid in place Okay, really? So he's trying to if you go through that list I've got like you know 50 different items of what he's doing. Where is the list at? And if you look at what they're doing with the Genius Act and Stablecoin He said no CBDCs but... My favorite topic, the Genius Act and stablecoin. Okay. Stablecoin... So I don't know if you've read the Genius Act which is the new plan for stablecoins? Yes, I have. Okay. A CBDC would be issued by the Federal Reserve so presumably The New York Fed and The Fed Member Banks okay now they are owned by their members so Citibank JP Morgan Chase they own as members They own The New York Fed and basically govern it ok

22:55 And the New York Fed is the depository for the Treasury and, and the different banks work as agent to do those transactions. Okay? Now in the Genius Act what they're saying is that guys who own the New York Fed are all going to create subsidiaries and issue stablecoin which will be interoperable and can work with a a social credit system. So she just throws that out there, it'll interop with a social credit system which I guess is being built by Palantir based upon all of the information and your real ID yeah you know you're making that up

23:34 This last clip, which is short. She actually explains perfectly what the stablecoin gambit is and she has this so right but to me it completely detracts from her whole conspiracy mind because if she'd answered the question which was about Bitcoin... Which never comes up again That's the antithesis of a stablecoin But okay What they're planning on doing with stablecoins, which I have to say as a financial matter is quite clever Remember the pallets of cash you sent to Iraq? Oh yeah. Okay, this is going to be the digital equivalent of the pallets of cash into Iraq because... See this doesn't even make sense so the pallets of cash sent to Iraq stablecoin is going to be the digital equivalent of that oh Because it's so anonymous

24:26 Because we don't know who holds that that pallets of cash We don't know exactly whose pocket that's in but for some for some unknown reason now The stable coin is going to be just like anonymous cash, which of course she said it's not going to be okay Okay, it's gonna be a digital equivalent of the palettes of cash into Iraq because what they want to do with stable coins So a stable coin is just a bank deposit or treasury bill or bond, so it's fully collateralized by $1. You put $1 in and these stable coins are going to... I mean you have some stable coins that do gold or other things but these are gonna be- Gold or other things Bitcoin will also be... Is already backing stablecoin but let's just gloss over that. Dollar and this is gonna create huge market for the treasury bills and bonds Yes! And you're gonna...

25:16 The bank subsidiaries will create the stable coins that would be fully collateralized in treasury bonds or bills. But then you can send them out on Google payment and Apple payment and all the wallets around the world, and literally you can get people from Bolivia to South Korea Coming into your state and using stable coins. Yes, so you're literally gonna tend for the global population Try and get everybody off of their local currency Stable coins And you're gonna pump out massive amounts of private credit to make it really attractive So you just gonna hand out money and get everybody on the dollar yes Exactly is that a bad thing? It's being the world reserve currency without being the world reserve currency

26:05 I know it's a big concept for people, but this whole idea of control grid but then all of the sudden is like palettes of cash. No no no... This stablecoin thing has got real legs and its – I think is genius! And there are already 400 million people in the world who use stablecoin almost none of them in United States because you can use your Venmo You can use your PayPal, you can use all that It's not intended for us But okay. So, just like calm down everybody! The control grid, Palantir, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk... Oh no what are we going to do? As if the control grid wasn't already here on your phone

27:01 To put in the drawer? Yeah, you are the only one they can't find. Where's this Dvorak character?! We can find family members all over the country from South Dakota to Washington but we can't find The Kingpin! Where is he?? No... so calm down everybody. The best thing about the big beautiful bill is the extension of the tax cuts and you want that. You want that and what is it going to add It's going to potentially add $270 billion a year to our already out of control deficit? I mean, that... Well that's debatable. If it's that much or if it's more than that? No, it's not much but it's debatable whether we really add to it or not. Well now the whole idea is we're going to outgrow the deficit!

27:56 Yeah, we're going to get a lot of cash which I think doesn't that directly impact the deficit if we get a lot of cash? We'll get a lot tariff money. Tariff money yeah well also with the stable coin the way i understand it you can get the stable coin at par to the dollar one for one if you deal with us If you don't deal with us you get it for 95 cents I mean, this is all... This has Trump's fingerprints all over it. He is much more of a meta guy than people understand. He just comes across as a doofus and I think he's got it by the right end this time if not well whatever we'll have another guy in three years and we'll see what happens then but uh but this all of this stuff that's going on It's sending our people into a tizzy

28:46 Our people have been in a tizzy for awhile. I'm trying to calm them down, it's gonna be okay! You can't, I think it's out of control. And you always have... You can't fight it! I want to fight it!! Now you're spending too much time fighting it. You wanna hear uh... Spend more time mocking it I don't want to mock our own people. Well, you have to No! no i dont think that's necessary I am here to help spin down my people I'm sorry Have to do this At the tone a clip from The View will be played Shelter in place Elon Musk basically could tank Donald Trump's entire legislative agenda. This big, beautiful bill—it has energy, it has border security, it has extending his tax cuts in it—if Republicans decide we don't want to get on the wrong side of Elon that is what Donald Trump is banking it all on and that's kind of devastating for his administration

29:39 On the flip side, those Republicans if you're in a House district you're like I'm afraid of Donald Trump but Elon Musk because of the dark money system we live in he can come and primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. And then there is... We know it doesn't necessarily work because we just saw thank you for reminding us that we saw that in Wisconsin so what are you talking about? Then he can come in and... It had just opposite effect as matter-of-fact. Yeah I would say so. I believe they got wind of it and had the opposite effect of desired effect primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. And there is that, that if one was going to think, oh maybe this happened... You know Elon knows the 411 on everything? Yeah he got all that information He's literally sitting at Twitter looking at everybody's information yeah I see what you're doing I see what she's looking for. Does she say 411 on everybody Oh yeah the 411 baby! That's how all the kids are talking

30:35 Ten years ago. Well, she better guard her six. Ooh Maybe this happened you know Elon knows the 411 on everything yeah You can turn like a code switch Like Elon knows the 411 on everything. Everything. I'm so angry. So Trump should be afraid of him, because he has only seats on the election too? Well $20 million dollars he spent alone in that Wisconsin Supreme Court race, so imagine if he would just need to peel off a handful of Republicans this cycle like the entire balance of power in the House of Representatives could stand on if Elon Musk actually follows through and primaries people who vote for him. And votes to peel-off are there because party is divided on what it wants from them But hasn't this damaged Elon Musk's reputation, his business reputation

31:37 Like, Tesla's—you can't even sell them anymore. You can't even get rid of them. People aren't buying them. They're burning them. They're burning it! Did you hear? They're burning them. Yes they are burning them. I'll tell you something else. It dawned on me was not hard because it kept hitting me in the face like a wet salmon there will be no peace in Ukraine until after the big NATO summit Because it is so obvious now And I would say that President Trump and President Putin are both in this. Do you get hit in the face by a wet salmon a lot? Have you ever... Hey, I grew up in Holland man! I think it's a Dutch expression actually. I think that's where it comes from

32:27 But thanks for interrupting my flow. I'm sorry, but you got me jammed with that one! It's just like when you get hit in the face with a wet salmon! What? That never happened to me... Well, he never lived in Holland. I think that President Trump and President Putin are definitely playing together and everyone's jumping in on it, the Germans, the Brits. The Brits are... hold on a second I gotta play this from the Brits first listen to

33:07 Kier Starmer. It's a plan to reverse decades of post-Cold War British military decline and to send a message to Moscow after its invasion of Ukraine. We are moving toward fighting readiness when we are being directly threatened by states with advanced military forces the most effective way to deter them is to be ready. And we gotta spend some money everybody! The UK will boost both stockpiles and weapons production capacity that could be scaled up if needed with at least six new munitions factories. The plan includes building 12 new attack submarines and investing more in Britain's nuclear arsenal We are investing £15 billion pounds in our sovereign warhead programme to secure our deterrent for decades to come

33:55 It's also a message to Washington. Like other NATO members, the UK has been reassessing its defence spending since Donald Trump returned to the White House threatening to pull away from Europe's defence. Everything we do will add to the strength of NATO as we step up to take greater responsibility for our collective defence, the NATO alliance means something profound that we will never fight alone. The new announcements come after the UK pledged to raise defence spending to hit 2.5% of GDP by 2027 and 3% before 2034, but it's unclear where the money will come from for the latter target

34:38 As he juggles severely strained public finances, Stalmer has portrayed the higher defence spending as a way to create jobs and has already contentiously cut international aid spending. General Smedley Butler said it best war is a racket and I think in this case except for the poor Ukrainians We are going to be raising everybody's GDP by creating more war machines and it is going to be particularly good for the United States because we have helped facilitated the fear that Russia is going to take over everything and there's Putin's the big bad boogeyman, and we need to have more money. And nothing proves it better than the ministers of defense all getting together in Brussels talking about the new budgets and led as always by the interestingly nose-touching sniffing Mark Rutte

35:34 NATO defence ministers are meeting in Brussels to lay the ground for the summit in The Hague and also take key decisions to enhance our deterrence and defense. We will also address our continued support for Ukraine, and the urgent need for peace. The world... How do we get peace? becoming more dangerous. There's Russia's brutal war against Ukraine, the threat of terrorism and intense global competition. We will continue to protect our people and our way of life. Now there is a BUD coming! So we must make NATO a stronger fairer and more lethal alliance. At this ministerial we are going to take a huge leap forward. We will strengthen our deterrence in defense by agreeing ambitious new capability targets

36:22 Oh, new capability targets! What does that mean? To deliver on our new targets it's clear that we will need significantly higher defence spending. That underpins everything Yes more defence spending because if we defend it we'll be better than the Romans NATO is the most powerful defence alliance in world history Even more powerful then the Roman Empire And more powerful then Napoleon We are the most powerful defense alliance in world history. But a defense alliance needs maintenance and needs investment. And that's exactly why in NATO we have this.

37:00 whole system, the NATO defence planning process leading to an agreement on a capability target. And that means we will have exactly exact clarity on where are we and where should be if you want to defend ourselves not only today but also in 3-5 years. Listen to the German Chief of Defence who said this week on record that within four or five years the Russians might be able to attack us. Four, five years they come to attack us? The Russian are coming! Well I and all my colleagues want to prevent it because we want to stay free We value our way of life and we don't want any form of Russian dominance over NATO territory Okay so we need to spend... So all the ministers are together They're all talking about it And they're trying

37:50 Trying to put that 5% together with some fuzzy numbers, and this is very suspicious. What's going on? Now the US the Trump administration has been demanding a five percent target That's way up from the existing 2% target Mark Rutte has figured out a way to kind of fudge that his proposal on the table Is that would be at 3.5 percent target for hard military spending tanks and This has been greeted cautiously, let's say by the US administration. And it could be that Trump shows up to that NATO summit at the end of the month and says no we need 5% hard spending Yeah, we definitely do and Pete Hegseth was very clear about it because he is also in Brussels

38:51 It's very good to be here with Ambassador Whitaker. I thought his remarks, statements and everything yesterday were spot on so thank you for representing the United States and i don't think anybody has done more to advance the cause of strengthening NATO than President Trump. He started it in his first term calling for 2%, calling for investment in this alliance You've got to be, to be an alliance you gotta be more than flags. You gotta be formations. You gotta be more than conferences. You need to be combat ready capabilities." He didn't quite have all the alliteration down but he finally got there. So we're here to continue the work that President Trump started which is a commitment of 5% defense spending across this Alliance which we think will happen, it has to happen by the summit at The Hague later this month so that's our focus five percent

39:41 combat credible and capable forces, and then making sure NATO is focused on its core mission. Continental defense where it's comparative advantage exists so we look forward to talking to counterparts today in advancing American interests but also the interest of the continent." Five percent that's just it five percent! And where's that going? To us And Putin then gets to do his thing, and Russia... You know they're ramping up over there. We need some more money! Everyone's doing it! You know we just have to make sure no one goes crazy and pushes a button but that behooves no one so to me No peace until after the big splash

40:22 in the Hague and then miraculously we won't have a... We might have, what do they have? A North Korean armistice where we'll do something like that. Won't have an actual peace agreement I don't think This has always been about money It always is The joke is tanks? I know! Check the calendar You know on the drones I got a really interesting short clips from the War Room podcast. This is not Banyan, this is not Banyan. Before you say that, I want to mention a meme that's been floating around which says American aircraft carrier shows an aircraft carrier big giant thing one of the big ones

41:16 Then it says French aircraft carrier, shows a French aircraft. It says Chinese and it shows the Chinese one. Then it says Ukrainian aircraft carrier and it shows up big rig is the truck. Well lot cheaper there are so many questions around that drone attack I love the aerial footage that is circulating, which seems to be drone footage going over the destroyed bombers. Some of them have five engines some have three you know it's so obvious. You're talking about the bombers? Yeah it's AI this AI video floating who knows what's even real anymore we can't tell no we don't know but this completely explains the drones over New Jersey

42:05 And it's very interesting to learn from this Lieutenant Lushenko. Now, Lieutenant Lushenko he is with the JCO... hold on a second I have him U.S Army Lieutenant Colonel serves as the chief strategist and director of future studies and war gaming for the Joint Counter Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office, known as the JCO." So he's propagandists obviously But he's good. It is different to think about homeland defense versus force protection of soldiers and coalition forces abroad in a recent exercise What we found was that we are just out of position frankly in the homeland in terms of the kit In terms of training and in terms of policies and authorities things as simple as how do we communicate across the interagency with the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration? How do we share information what does it mean to coordinate

43:05 high end jamming capabilities like counter precision navigation and timing. You don't want to shut down a commercial aircraft because you're trying to take down that's absolutely right on drone The other thing Tom is that we lack, and this is clearly stated in admitted by our senior leaders to include the Northern Command commander General Geho and the vice chief of staff in the army We lack the ability to identify friend or foe at installations. Domain awareness is a huge challenge for us. Oh yeah, of course we can't have Gene Neftulia flying his drones around and not knowing if it's Russian... oh wait he is a Russian And they're killer drones too, and we sell them. As relates to friendly forces I think we've had some marginal success although we still lack kit especially in the homeland as it relates to defeat of these capabilities so the JCO through its demonstration portfolio we actually have no... Demonstration portfolio? Is that a sales brochure?

44:01 This guy loves talking like this. I love this! Through its demonstration portfolio, we actually have no authority to purchase anything or influencing industry and joint force partners to buy stuff on our behalf but through that sort of process, we have encouraged the fielding of FS Lids fixed site low, slow small unmanned aircraft system interceptor. And that has sort of a KU band radar coupled with a small form factor less costly missile called the Coyote that has proliferated across central command based upon the threat there and indeed President Trump during his recent trip to the Middle East agreed upon selling 15 or so these capabilities to Qatar. Sounds like drones were used in Russia honestly

44:51 Autonomous, they got LIDAR. They got little bombs on them perfect and lasers I gotta ask are we having success with lasers on UAS as I hadn't heard that and it's it sounds awfully Star Wars ish so That's right. I think we're in the beta testing phase at this point Right? And so what I've seen from The initial reports from CENTCOM is we need to do a lot more work as it relates to that but at this point We're really not wasting time moving out quickly And smartly in concert with the Defense Innovation Unit on this. In fact, there is a forthcoming executive order or so I'm told from the Trump administration which is attempting to energize the industrial base in the United States to increase investment not just for homeland defense but also force protection in terms of these capabilities

45:40 Money money money. Yeah force protection and and by the way, we've done the beta testing It's also called war gaming So we recently ran the largest scale tabletop exercise for five years By the way drone operators you will not be happy with what this guy is about to say the JCO that brought together 30 agencies of as well as the White House, specifically the National and Homeland Security Councils. Over 100 participants in the core objective that we pursue was trying to understand how the JCO could best enable US Northern Command to protect the homeland

46:18 And from that, we came up with a series of five implementation decisions that we had briefed up through the Vice Chief of Staff at the Army General Mingus who provides our governance at the joint force level. Those things consist of recommendations for better coordination with the FAA for again jamming capabilities how do we coordinate in terms of sharing information and intelligence with our partners optimizing the National Guard Bureau as we've talked about and then further is shifting the legislation to have point-of-sale registration for small drones in the home. Point of sale registration? We can quickly identify friend from foe. What the hell does that mean? Invertible license, if you will, for a small drone. What he just said!

47:01 You'll need a license, a special license for small drone. I'm sure you will need your real ID to purchase it and you're going into Palantir." And so these things are really important because we have shifted the conversation on policy that they're good at codified in executive orders and indeed representatives are now talking about things like how do we define an aircraft? Right now the law makes no distinction between a manned and unmanned aircraft and soldiers are held liable for taking down a drone as if they took down a commercial airliner. So that's the level of JCO is operating at Dude, dude. We are a war manufacturing country It's just no two ways about it And the more I think about this and although I agreed with you on your initial reaction to an issue response on the last episode I think the Golden Dome Will be significantly different from the Iron Dome The Iron Dome is a dome that keeps out You know long-range

47:55 and, you know, medium-range missiles nuclear stuff whatever from Russia And the Golden Dome, that'll be like a thing that's internal. I think it's going to be protecting us from drones and stuff on the inside." This drone attack on Russia was no mistake. It was...it was a sales pitch, it was capabilities demonstration, tabletop exercise—I don't know what you want to call it—but this was meant to show us something that asymmetric warfare is here upon us and we need money to do it I don't know. The long presentation you just gave us... I did not! The presentation was like four minutes of those clips, but okay over to you Bob it's an hour into the show what are you talking about? I've given you plenty- I would talk about four different topics have been I've kept long pauses for you to jump in

48:55 Nothing to jump in on I didn't find it for one thing the initial topic which has long since forgotten Let's play some tik-tok videos. That'll make you feel better The first topic which have long since forgotten, and I can't remember you had to I've said that as a cue to remind me What was what was there? Oh yeah, it was no I lost it again It was Elon Musk Yeah Elon Musk. I didn't think that was interesting And I'll tell you why, because like you said right at the beginning your whole thesis was that the whole thing's a phony deal. You are disconnected from the world my friend people are flipping out over this thing it is top of the news it is what everyone is talking about particularly our own people so... Maybe in Texas they're sure not mentioned its not even brought up in local news around here Wow okay well and I did but I will say Fox plays it up

49:47 I don't even watch Fox. And they did, Ty, I watched the whole thing this morning the whole press conference with Trump and i kind of agree that there's something phony about it because Trump does say he said the one comment which you didn't have a clip of which is Elon knew more about the big beautiful bill than anybody here in the room! Where's your clip? I didn't think it was... where's my clip? It's where it belongs. I didn't find it interesting enough to carry any clips for it. Well, I'm all ears but I'm backing your clips up by telling you some stuff that you didn't get clipped which is that kind of back your point up Your point is that this thing is fake Yes! But no one besides you and I see that trust me

50:31 And so, well I thought it was so fake that I didn't even bother with it. But I will say that Trump said that Elon knew... Why did he say that? I don't know and thus it was something just to tell people like hey don't worry about it The other thing is he says I don't know if we're gonna be friends anymore but he said that not in the way normally takes on these guys when a guy turns on him, he usually calls them an idiot or something. He gives them some acronym and he...or gives him some nasty...nasty...nasties him! He didn't do that at all So the second part of my presentation came from our very own people which was the Palantir thing which you hadn't even heard of

51:12 And that's also... No, I knew that. No, I had heard of something because I got the same note you did about the guy from Palantir talking about how the whole thing is exaggerated and a crock of shit Thus I didn't carry any any clips for it because if I just took his word for it Because he was very credible. All I'm doing is defending my so-called Presentation of you saying was boring and no good, and I took up all this time Well, I never said I never said it was boring in no good those You can't find those words in my comment. I just thought it was It was long. I'm waiting for you to launch into something. I'm all ears

51:52 Well, the topics are so disparate considering you kept it into this. My stuff is so different that I... It's hard to jump in there. That's why there's two of us! I'll play one lone clip that has nothing to do with anything else but I think is the most important clip I have which has nothing to do with any of this stuff we talked about or anything else were going to talk about but I think Phenomenal. This is the Trump versus Columbia wow clip. The Trump administration is taking action against Columbia University saying the school violated Title VI of the Civil Rights Act and therefore no longer meets the standards of the organization that accredits the university

52:33 A press release from the Education Department says that its Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Health and Human Services' Office for Civil Rights, quote, determined that Columbia University acted with deliberate indifference towards the harassment of Jewish students since October 7th 2023. The Trump administration said today it has notified the Middle States Commission on Higher Education, the school's accreditor So what does that mean? They're going to be discredited as a scholastic institute. This is no slouch of an idea, and this has to do with Harvard. Trump went after Harvard by first going after their money they got sued then they went after Harvard by taking away all their foreign students they got 26 percent foreign students to pay full tilt to get into the place you know they're getting sued over that now the real DeSalvo the one if the shot over the bow

53:24 accreditation. Yes, this is the biggest possible thing threat you can make to a university you lose accreditation you might as well just close your shop. Who Who hands out the accreditations? There's a couple of groups that do it. There's one in particular which I think they're talking to, I don't know the name of it offhand but if you don't have accreditation as a university you might as well close the doors so what that means is that if I go to Cal and get you know take English there and transfer over someplace else... Is no good! And Cal's not accredited.. No! You gotta start from scratch A no agenda PhD will be worth more

54:07 So yes, the know it. This is telling us that the no agenda PhD is going to be worth as much as a Columbia degree if they lose their accreditation. What does he want from them? I'm sure that he wants something. He wants him to Now that you've asked a simple question, I'm not absolutely sure anymore. I think they want these... The endowments? If it's the endowments, I get it. I think the idea of taxing is a good one. There is the notion that I've pushed on this show which is all these colleges and universities do is crank out Democrat voters

54:51 Yeah, there's just kind of designed to do that nothing else. I think there may be something there I don't know but this is a big deal. I'm sure there's meetings going on as we speak People that normally you'd be listening at the show their meeting about this This has got to be freaking everybody out well It's interesting because I got a note this morning from The constitutional lawyer and this meant this may play into it the Supreme Court This is from law 360 justices nicks higher hurdle for heterosexual bias claims Supreme Court Nick's higher hurdle for heterosexual bias claim so I think this plays into it maybe This is about title 7 and it was a heterosexual woman who claimed that the Ohio Youth Services Department discriminated against her because she is not LGBTQ plus

55:52 And the Sixth Circuit had ruled that heterosexuals must produce additional evidence demonstrating extra background circumstances in order to establish this prima facie case. And LGBTQ plus employees did not bear this burden, so SCOTUS unanimously rejected the six course rationale which means not just for sexual orientation but basically reverse racism is real and you can't do it That's what this decision is saying. And I think this plays into a lot of these universities because they are, all they do is reverse racism which is racism. Which is racism yeah we said the term is bad it's a bad term yes but people at least understand it and so a lot of this plays into it. Maybe? I don't know that's a question that we should try to figure out because this battle between Trump administration and

56:56 Ivy League colleges in particular. Well, first of all the tuition fees are outrageous because of the basically free government money which puts everybody into jail into a debt jail debtors jail yes but you can't get out of right never use that way right even with bankruptcy When they didn't have the free money, these tuitions were reasonable. Yeah and they have money through these large tax-free endowments which are tax free to use them and tax free to donate to them or they create a tax advantage to donate to them especially if you can use that money for your own good on there on the back end yeah the endowment's for this so that would be a pro for the American people and maybe they'll improve their education

57:47 Yeah, well that's remains to be seen. What are your Harvard clips? Do I have Harvard clips on here? Yeah you got two! That's...I thought you were leading right into it. I'm leading right into the Harvard clips but this is really not that connected This is just a follow-up on Trump versus Harvard which I still think is the real target here. Topic that has driven headlines for the last 2 months Trump vs Harvard University The bout began in late March when a federal anti-Semitism task force said it would investigate Harvard's administrative and academic policies Trump let off his attack with accusations of the school not doing enough to combat anti-Semitism on campus, but also for continuing diversity equity and inclusion or DEI policies in its admissions curriculum and hiring. He also alleged that Harvard is too left wing and no longer prioritizes merit in higher education to the same degree it did in the past

58:40 Trump followed up the barrage with a list of demands. Those included a ban on masks, limits to campus protests and review of any potential biases in various academic departments The president also froze all federal funding for the university until his demands are met Harvard retaliated in April by saying it would not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional rights University has sued that the Trump administration unfreezed billions in federal grant money that it could inevitably lose Harvard has argued that Trump is impeding its ability to conduct research important for the entire country, including medical breakthroughs and scientific discoveries. Trump countered in May by directing the Department of Homeland Security or DHS to shut down Harvard's foreign student enrollment indefinitely. DHS alleged Harvard was coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party. What news outlet is this?

59:36 Ugh, no. It sounds like AI. Yeah it does almost make it a little more exciting at least So they see the four is possible after listening to this Columbia clip that Harvard's being set up because Harvard keeps deflecting No no wait where you're taking money away from medical research They got plenty of money You taking them on your 400 million dollars there's nothing to harbor. Nope hold on a second Sorry, 400 yeah you dropped out. $400 million is nothing to Harvard? No, $400 million is nothing to Harvard when they have 50 billion dollars sitting in the endowment and they can get money from it and that money's research for drug companies that can easily spend that I mean we had a list of recently everything we mentioned on this show these guys I think Pfizer not Pfizer but all the big boys Johnson & Johnson being at top of the list I think they did 18 billion in profits in one year

1:00:42 And so, and all these companies are in the billions and billions. So the 400 million in research for something or other that's gonna benefit a drug company can be picked up by the drug companies? Why are we, the taxpayers picking it up? We're not getting benefited from it. I mean, we're getting... It's kind of a benefit but it's the drug companies that make the money off of it. So what's the point? I think they may be setting them up because if they're gonna not do anything about the Jewish issue, they could pull the plug on their expose nation Yeah, that would be the big deal is part two. Most recently though the school defended its foreign enrollment saying quote Harvard is not Harvard without its international students and quote this has played out in court as Sam indicated with a judge this week extending a temporary block on DHS from preventing Harvard's enrollment of foreign students and The government has also given the school 30 days to respond to the Homeland Security Department's actions

1:01:36 In terms of answering Trump's demands, Harvard has established task forces to investigate both anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic activities while also suggesting they would at least try to diversify political opinion on campus. But will NDEI ban masks and submit to immigration authorities? Unlikely! Nonetheless the federal funds are still frozen and Harvard is not happy about that Well, just use your tens of billions of dollars in endowments Trump says. Harvard fired back saying it is relying on all the interest that comes from those endowments being invested to fund the university as a business mogul trump knows that principle right?

1:02:19 And that really gets down to the question, does Trump have the right to do this with federal funds? Is it constitutional to punish a school or its students for their free speech even if the president doesn't agree with that speech. Trump's alleging that basically taxpayer money is funding DEI and left-wing thinking at one of the country's most elite universities on the other hand Harvard is saying has a constitutional right and needs the funding for critical research. Critical research yeah Those clips you're right the guys a boring presenter. Yes if you want President Trump the administration has taken away more money from the medical community and it brought out the It brought out the spokes holes who are usually doctors to say that he's crazy interested

1:03:11 Yeah, of course. Just checking in other vaccine use the Trump administration has canceled the US government's contract with Moderna to develop a vaccine for bird flu The recent strain of the avian flu arrived in the US in 2022 and it's led to the deaths over 170 million birds resulting in a nationwide spike in egg prices. Get ready because Dr Vin Gupta is going to tell you why its nuts! Oh no, not that eggs thing again... Eggs? That's just the beginning. The flu infected more than 1,000 herds of cattle as well as 70 people although this strain is not yet highly contagious for humans

1:03:52 infectious disease experts worry the next pandemic could indeed come from an avian flu. So Dr. Gupta, we have seen this administration slash funding for so much in the way of research and development including people thought was very promising HIV treatments vaccines there and now this avian flu give us your sense on this one because as just we just said There are experts who think the next big terrible pandemic might come from exactly this. Big, terrible pandemic is the I guess that's the counterweight to the big beautiful bill We've got to throw something out there Next big terrible pandemic might come from exactly this What's the point here? Why are they doing it?

1:04:34 I mean, again. And I'm not sure I'm not sure this is even consistent with President Trump's view of wise investments in biomedical research. Remember Operation Warp Speed probably his signature achievement? Don't you love that like that like having a Moderna contract as a wise investment in medical research and really during the COVID pandemic and then its first term so this is this is I wonder how much he's clued into exactly what's happening here because it's twice I'm sorry?

1:05:15 with government money and then they hold back until after the election. So it makes sure Biden gets in, that's a thank you very much. And in his first term so this is I wonder how much he's clued into exactly what's happening here because even from his prior precedents this doesn't really make any sense and for all your viewers out there to keep in mind What's happening is there is a promising phase 1, phase 2 early stage vaccine candidate for avian flu. And it's bird flu that is changing exactly as you point out Jonathan right before our eyes It went from birds to cattle to mountain lions and this thing is changing

1:05:56 It went from birds to cattle to mountain lions. Humans are next! What happened to the bats and the pangolins? Changing exactly as you point out, Jonathan right before our eyes it went from birds to cattle to mountain lions I mean this thing is changing at a speed that we haven't seen before so yes exactly We're worried that the next pandemic isn't a matter of if but when And its likely going to be flu thats changing Flu thats changing...I'm telling ya By the way, President Trump is truthing. He's truthing as we speak here to truths

1:06:34 The easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. Elon was wearing thin! I asked him to leave. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted He knew that for months And he knew i was gonna do it...and he just went crazy! Come on Well back to the bird flu. Yeah, so I have to bring back it This is a reminiscence but this is by now. I have bunch of clips from Thomas Massey he was along yeah He's also he's mad mad. He was on the this guy show this Brit WMS it's

1:07:25 I can't remember what the- WMS? Yeah, well that's the guy. He said it was William or Bill or something MS. I had to go look him up on a piece of notepad but this guy has got a podcast we're supposed to do more podcasting stuff and were doing it We are And Massey has a story about the COVID vaccine which I don't know if we've heard in these words so much because he did an investigation. He had a committee on it about how it got its authorizations and all the rest of it. And I think it's good to follow that bird flu clip with this, if the tariffs increase the prices they're gonna be annoyed by that but then I think the ideas behind tariffs which even Trump would probably agree with is not going to be an easy start but eventually you want to get to a place where people have more money because the industries are back in America But what if we're not good at making stocks?

1:08:23 What if we're... What clip are you playing? Massey on W- well, it says WMS Massey and it says On Socks. I mean, I don't know what you're doing You don't have Massey COVID?! Uhh..I was looking at WMS that was the clue you gave me It says WMS on that clip too The WMS is at the end of my clips Wait a minute but you must know this At the end of the clip I put a code that tells where the clip came from Right, so... Like BBC or I put NTD and all this at the end. Okay but i'll tell you exactly how this happened You have two clips Massey on committees Massey is all uppercase which to me means important Then No! To me That's never been true And then underneath that So when my eye goes down the list

1:09:17 No, I understand how it happens. It's a long list that these clips lists are long and people don't understand what a mess this you know the back end of the show is I'm surprised you spelled Massey right so let me play the right clip before you do that Well, this socks clip is interesting but it's not got nothing to do with COVID. I see... It-it's literally... It's uh.. it's my parsing of the list. It is all on me That's on ME bro! My bad. Here we go with you, Badd. And this is the discussion... I don't know if after you play this clip tell me if we knew this? Well something good happened to this week actually and I think it's because of RFK Jr being head of Health and Human Services

1:10:12 Under the Biden administration, the scientists, the vaccine scientists at the FDA were pressured to skip steps. Ignore data and skip the step where a review panel outside review panel reviews their authorization for emergency authorizations. Yeah yeah this was for them so they needed to go from emergency use to full licensure in order to mandate the vaccine. And so, the scientists were told that they needed to take the political position and to accelerate the full approval process not just the EUA and the scientists were also told you need to do an EUA for the boosters and the scientist pressed back and said we need more time to give it the full licensure and we don't think everybody needs a booster

1:11:02 Those were the that was the top vaccine scientists, Marian Gruber at FDA and her deputy Philip Krause. They were forced out of the FDA under the Biden administration and left Mr. mysteriously under a cloud, didn't say a lot. I brought them in. I was chairman of the subcommittee on regulatory reform. I brought them in each for five hours deposed them found out their boss Peter Marks was the bad guy because after he pushed him out He took their job as responsibilities himself and approved the vaccine. He wasn't even a vaccine scientist. He was like their manager instead of replacing them. He took their job and just got it done

1:11:43 And he left the FDA this week. By the way, after deposing them I held a hearing and called one of them as a witness and some other people as witnesses and exposed what had happened. And I was frustrated that this man Peter Marks was still at the FDA but now he's gone this week. Was it the FDA or CDC? I thought maybe it was FDA Do we know, did we know that story? Not like that. I do recall Peter Marx all of a sudden moving to the forefront but no man there's so much that happened back then It's all scamish Oh what?! Well... And it's still going on with this bird flu nonsense

1:12:34 And what the clip you just played. I mean if that doesn't sound like another setup for just wasting taxpayers money and then suckering people into getting a shot that they don't need I don't know what is. Well there's a lot of... Why don't they take this? There has been nothing done, there is a big backlash going on about the fact that Kennedy has not pulled the COVID mRNA shots off the market Yes here is Jen Psaki So it turns out running a vast science-based healthcare bureaucracy Is a lot harder than being an eccentric nepo baby who feeds conspiracy theories to get attention

1:13:12 I thought that was pretty good. She's done too, by the way you know her ratings are off of she took over Rachel slot and she her numbers are down 47 percent they're gonna get rid of her well they've they've rolled out their new lineup actually the new lineup and she's already been reduced to four days a week. Here is the promo for The Briefing MSNBC's Jen Psaki, host of The Briefing We've never experienced a moment like this in our country and it leaves us all with a choice Are we going to speak out or are we gonna be pressured into silence?

1:13:52 I've worked for presidents, I faced the tough questions from the press and even threats from the Kremlin. And if there's one thing i've learned is that you can't cower to bullies You don't need to be hopeless we have our voices and I will continue using mine The briefing with Jen Psaki Tuesday through Friday at 9 p.m eastern on MSNBC They're promoting her they're trying to trying to get her some uh some viewership She's toast. Yeah, so they are continuing with the COVID fear-mongering we have a summer spike this comes summer we have a summer spike it's that beta thing. A new Covid variant has health experts paying close attention the NB 181 is spreading quickly in other parts of the world it has been tracked in several states including Virginia the state

1:14:38 epidemiologist is not sounding the alarm. We've built up a lot of immunity to COVID, although there's no reason to believe this variant will lead to more severe illness than previous variants she says it will likely cause an increase in summer cases she recommends getting vaccinated especially if you are in a more vulnerable group I think what I think about with any vaccine, but particularly a COVID vaccine or including the COVID vaccine is that we want those people who are most vulnerable to more severe complications, hospitalization even death. That they are the ones that

1:15:16 protected. And that includes the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions, U.S Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr just removed the COVID vaccine CDC recommendations for healthy pregnant women and healthy children prompting the CDC doctor who oversees recommendations to resign. Oh well that's good rats are leaving the ship? Who they weren't resigning Some CDC director resigned. Let me see, Director resigns... I- this is... Here we go Reuters Oh well Pediatric infectious disease expert Dr Lakshmi Do we even hear of Lakshmi? Well now we have He resigned a CDC working group that advises outside experts so that

1:16:07 That report was somewhat specious, as you would say. Maybe a good time to remind people that if you hear the following type of language in your mainstream media, your M5M... ...that means that they've finally gotten there This is a little throwback or call back to where we were We want to make sure that people can discern the truth from the misinformation And we wanna make sure that everyone understands it. No one's safe till everyone is safe.

1:16:51 from COVID-19 until everyone is safe. If the whole world isn't safe, none of us are safe. No one is safe. Nobody's safe. Until we're all safe. Health experts have been saying nobody is safe. Nobody is safe until everybody is safe. What a psyop when you think about it? The whole idea that everyone has to be vaccinated because an unvaccinated person can hurt a vaccinated person. It was so unbelievable! I remember just at the time going like what what is this logic?! If this thing is safe and effective, then it doesn't matter if someone's unvaccinated next to you. But no nobody's safe till everybody's safe. Science is clear. None of us are safe! There is no safety. No one is safe. Nobody is safe. Nobody is safe. We'll never be safe. Till we're all safe. 99.5% of people are safe and will survive COVID-19

1:17:45 The only positive thing out of this is we should be able to manufacture a lot of vaccines and... Nobody will be safe if not everybody is vaccinated. You don't have a choice! As long as not everybody's vaccinated, nobody will be safe. Normalcy only returns when we want it- Alright well I can't go through the whole thing It's triggering Sounds like it goes on for days Oh it goes another minute and half? I don't think we need to hear it It was in the show notes everyone could listen at their own leisure And then one of the things that we got excoriated for was pregnant women and menstrual cycles and all of this stuff. And this OBGYN, Dr. James Thorpe... I think this is one of those Ron Johnson small room in The Capitol deals? Did the fake hearing. Yeah like, I'm gonna go testify before Congress! Wait what room is this?!

1:18:42 In the gym at Washington State High School. Here he is. This deception was institutionalized in the now infamous Shimabukuro study published on April 21st 2021 in the digital version of The New England Journal of Medicine. Twenty-one authors claim the miscarriage rate with 12.6% but the raw data revealed an 82 percent miscarriage rate Remember that when people were like, you don't know. You don't understand the numbers. You're not seeing it right? It's not 80 is 12% baby bleh bleh bleh. It was 12.6%, but the raw data revealed an 82% miscarriage rate in women vaccinated during the first trimester. This figure mirrors the effects of chemical abortion drugs such as RU486

1:19:28 Also, in the same journal edition on the same day an op-ed appeared by CDC director Rochelle Walensky and Journal Editor in Chief Eric Rubin. These publications were riddled with conflicts of interest and deliberate misrepresentations intended to coerce pregnant women into taking vaccines Subsequent studies have also claimed that COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective during pregnancy, and have been rebuked by respected researchers. Publications are fundamentally compromised by serious conflicts of interest ranging from biased funding sources and institutional mandates, and even threats to their medical licenses and board certifications. Between 2020 and 2022 pharmaceutical companies paid $1.06 billion dollars

1:20:22 to reviewers at leading medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, Lancet and BMJ. Thus corrupting the peer review process at least six existing studies three from CDC FDA and two from Pfizer revealed major breaches in safety signals for COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy well well Did we just play a clip in the last show about one of the networks pushing the COVID vaccine on pregnant women? Oh, well if you want to hear NPR I'm happy to play it for ya. This is new! The Trump administration is making it more difficult for healthy children and healthy pregnant women to get the COVID vaccine and that... How was he making it more difficult?! You walk in and say I want this shot

1:21:13 They make it sound like, like I have to go to a back alley. It's coat hanger time once again. No no not at all! The pregnant women to get the COVID vaccine and that is worrying parents younger adults and pregnant women who still want the shot NPR Health correspondent Rob Stein spoke with someone. They want the shot, they can get the shot! Yes! Lauren Capetti was relaxing with her husband at their home in Cincinnati when she heard about the new recommendations for who should get a COVID vaccine I would sit on my couch watching the news I was just like, what is happening? I started crying. They're not recommending it for pregnant women anymore and I was like... Is this really? I wanted! I was crying because I want it so bad! I was crying! This is a bogus report! Really?!

1:22:01 What's happening? Like am I not gonna be able to get this vaccine?" I'm not gonna be able to get this vaccine! No one said that. Why, why? That is absolutely terrifying. Terrifying. By the way it is absolutely terrifying John. So the whole premise is bogus The whole premise is false and where did they get that from probably from NPR Why why That's absolutely terrifying. Terrifying because the 30-year old Ohio State worker is about five months pregnant, but the CDC is no longer recommending the shots for healthy pregnant women I don't want to get COVID while I'm pregnant

1:22:39 I don't want it to hurt my child. I don't want to have a premature birth, I just know that there's complications that come along with it so that does scare me." She also knows the only way to protect her newborn baby is by getting vaccinated herself. Not only does it protect me while I'm pregnant but it does help the child once they're born in their first few months of life when they have zero immunity whatsoever So you know that's important for me and I want my child to have access to that This NPR program is brought to you by Pfizer and people like you. Isn't that incredible? With all the little inserts...

1:23:17 Oh yeah, she doesn't want something to happen to her baby. I like the fact that she's in tears! There's more... And Rachel Sampler-Zelaya is worried too She's 42 and lives in College Grove Minnesota This guy has a shiv... It's kind of funny He has lost shivalence and he can't breathe through his nose Her six year old daughter has asthma so she wants to keep getting herself, her husband and their two other healthy kids vaccinated to protect her too but the new policies could make it harder for the rest of the family. This is, this is exactly...this is propaganda indoctrination untruth coming from the National Public Radio! It's not harder to get it. Shameful shameful. In fact we learned that insurance companies still cover it will continue to cover it so it's just not true I'm angry

1:24:10 angry, frustrated. And she's not just angry and frustrated because she's worried about protecting her daughter She wants to shield the whole family It's not just a cold it affects the vascular system neurological system the immune system Oh you mean the shot or the COVID itself? I'm confused Even mild cases have the potential to develop into long COVID You know the brain fog, memory fatigue We vaccinate for far less and this is definitely a disease to me that needs to be vaccinated for. She says suddenly having to worry about the vaccines again feels like a flashback to the early days of the pandemic. Feels like we are going back in time again, to that same place where there's not a whole lot I can do to protect my kids So they're recalling trauma

1:25:05 of the listener by recalling the trauma of this poor woman who has clearly been traumatized and is being abused for this piece. Federal officials say that changes make sense because so many people have so much immunity now, they also question the safety of vaccines even though billions of people have gotten the shots. Many experts say that demonstrates the vaccines are very safe and effective for everyone. Wow! Billions of people got it not everybody died safe and effective Competti, Hoskinson's and Zolano they will probably still be able to get the shots by paying for them for themselves. But all the uncertainty in changing rules makes them anxious here's competty again the pregnant woman from Ohio yeah I'm just worried that if we're losing access to you know covid vaccines and

1:25:56 I don't know if other things are going to get taken away. Yeah, i'm just scared! I'm just scared...I don't know what's happening." This is a salvo clip this is one of those clips where they use bullcrap like we're afraid about access yeah this is to keep them from banning the vaccine completely yes It's okay, the vaccine is going to be around and Kennedy has promised he is not going to mess with vaccines. And sure...and he wants to get rid of them up. No no no no no. That can't happen. We're stronger than you, Kennedy! Big Pharma. They are also doing well if you want to hear the attack from the fluoride industry

1:26:42 Because this is the same report everywhere in the country. A recent study published in JAMA Health Forum shows that if all 50 states stopped adding fluoride to tap water, about one in three kids could expect a cavity within the next five years. We'll be like England! Everyone will have rotten teeth in America no! So how important is fluoride in our overall dental health? Our sources to answer this, the American Dental Association family physician Dr. Carla Robinson and cardiologist Dr. Pyle Coley Cardiologists? Cardiologists?! The FDA's new plan is to phase out fluoride supplements you eat or drink

1:27:22 not products like toothpaste or mouth rinses. Both doctors highlight the role it can play in our daily care. You know, fluoride is really important to protect our teeth because it does sort of two things and prevents demineralization of our teeth and it also helps with remineralization of our teeth It helps with demineralization of our teeths but also with re-mineralization of our teeth John, you studied chemistry. What's going on here? I have no idea. Prevents demineralization of our teeth... There is a little gotcha in here that is-I'm sure you'll catch it And it also helps with remineralization of our teeth We all utilize fluoride either whether its in our toothpaste or

1:28:09 water or for some who it's not available in their drinking water maybe supplements. The American Dental Association says that if you're living somewhere that doesn't have fluoride in the drinking water, you probably need a fluoride supplement but when it comes to children what amount of fluoride is considered safe? Robinson mentions that while it can be dangerous and large amounts... It can cause problems with the teeth ironically, when used in higher amounts than recommended or it can also cause problems with the bones. The amount of fluoride that we're typically exposed to in our drinking water or in our toothpaste is so far beyond that...so beneath that level and so in general regular... What? Did she just did the truth just come out there

1:28:58 The fluoride in our water is so far beyond, I mean below what? Recommended or it can also cause problems with the bones. The amount of fluoride that we're typically exposed to in our drinking water or in our toothpaste is so far beyond that and beneath that level and so in general... It's a usage issue It's, yeah I know what you're saying but i think the way she put it is legal. But she corrected it then why did she correct? Well there was a point to be made with that. The bones! The amount of fluoride that were exposed... By the way for anyone who wants to know so one of the nasty chemicals is hydrofluoric acid. You know sulfuric acid

1:29:47 Hydrochloric acid, there's nitric acid which nitric acid is pretty nasty too if you're dealing with it in the lab. You get one small speck of it on you and it turns your skin yellow and kind of burns ya. Hydrofluoric acids are little different Hydrofluoric acid, if you get it on ya', it goes right through your skin. It just goes right to the bone and starts eating your bone! It starts dissolving your bones right from the outset. Very nasty product. Don't be around it. Isn't that what those Russian hitmen use? To get rid of the body? No. In the bathtub? They use lime, I think everyone uses lime. Lime or lye? It's impractical to use hydrofluoric acid it's used... The only business that uses it is the semiconductor industry they use this to clean a chip I think as wafers and things need to be cleaned with this so we can you know clean them properly and it's a real problem it's a waste issue. Ah! Get rid of this. Is that why they put in the water to get rid of it? Well

1:30:51 Most of the hydro or the fluoride in water comes from the waste aluminum manufacturing. It's a waste product and it is hard to get rid off, for some other reasons I just mentioned. It is nasty thing if you get like drop of hydrofluoric acid on your bones. Put them into water! So let's drink it. Drinking water or in our toothpaste is so far beyond that, so beneath that level and so in general fluoride and regular normal applications is very safe to use and doesn't really put you at risk for those complications I think this is such a big win because we've been talking about fluoride in the water since the day this show started And it was probably second half of show

1:31:41 These nuts are talking about fluoride in the water again. It's crazy, what are they thinking? What are they doing?" Yeah I think so... I don't think it was second half of show. We have talked about but i think was first half of show. Okay all right. Second half of show is all flying saucer stuff Which a lot of people miss, myself included. Because it's bullcrap! All of it is bullcrap! All of the sudden you've changed from meeting... You meant that you were going to meet some guy Remember this? This was in like the third year of this show Yes I can say that You're gonna meet an alien and he's gonna be meeting somewhere in the Midwest or someplace And he didn't show up It wasn't in North Holland

1:32:27 Oh, it's in the north of Holland. You're gonna meet some guy who is an alien that just came off a ship He's gonna talk to you and tell you the truth Tell you what was going on he never showed up exactly so now do you understand why I'm saying? It's all bullcrap All of its yeah zero point energy. I've wasted so many years with my life one of my favorite So many years of my life on this perpetual motion me well no way if the other favorite one are you not them? I'm not here to ridicule you No, okay. But... Yeah? There's always a big but. There is a big but. The thing you had a Rolls Royce or something in your heyday and you were gonna put water he was going to use water for fuel. No no that was the Jaguar and I the hydro booster

1:33:16 Yeah, you had water in there and the waters and you got Ben. You went on and on about how much great your gas mileage was true And again I drove from the UK to The Netherlands to the east of the Netherlands that have a hydro booster installed and it did I did get good better Mac better gas mileage by putting Water in the gas No, it was hydrolysis and it created boom. What is that stuff? What do you get from it? Boom! What is that stuff? Hydro stuff, you know...boom! That's stuff yeah hydrazine no not hydrazine

1:34:02 Come on, when you... I have no idea what you're talking about. When you put electricity into water, you get hydrolysis Electrolysis Electrolysis and then what comes out of it is Hydrogen Hydrogen! Exactly And i was putting that straight into the carburetor The car went fast and then saved gas It's true Do you ever wonder What happened to cars you had? I have no idea What happened to that car I only know the Rolls Royce, and what happened to the Rolls Royces. I don't know anything any of my cars have no idea where they went that I sell them did I get rid of them that I drop him by the side of the road? Well I can tell you the Rolls Royces accounted for there's a ran we had a person when I lived at another house in the same town here There was an old lady living on the corner And she was kind of crazy old lady in her it would die The house is located next to the railroad tracks

1:35:02 And she had, it used to be a bootleggers place in the 30s and the trains would stop. Right in front of this house, an offload a bunch of liquor and this house looked like a warehouse anyway. It was pretty much an empty house but it had a lot...it was just a weird situation that the place was eventually torn down that was the end of it but in the garage right there at that house was 1920's 1930's Rolls Royce! They never took out I got to see it once. Mint condition? Peer-in to see it I talked to some Rolls Royce guys and there was a Rolls Royce guy somewhere along the lines because there was a thing going on in Berkeley area called Morehouse, which was a cult. And everybody in the cult had to have a Rolls Royce

1:35:47 It was a part of the cult. And they drive around these Rolls Royces, there were bunch of them in Berkeley because there's a bunch of cultists here and so I ran into some Rolls-Royce expert and he was parted some club. He says oh yeah every Rolls-Royce in the world is accounted for and he knew the car in that garage Yes, every Rolls Royce is different. So your car is accounted for by the Rolls Royce folk? I know where it went that one I know but my first car Volkswagen Beetle 1303... I don't remember! You don't remember why would you?! The Volvo 142... I don't remember. Oh you had a Volvo 142, the funky looking one That was that was my mom's car which I inherited no it's the big box but it had this like the lawnmower engine in it

1:36:34 Oh, is the boxy Volvo? The huge boxy Volvo. And then I had the Volkswagen 1303 and gosh...I don't remember. I think it had a Mitsubishi after that. It had a Mitsubishi Turbo. It had big turbo sign on the back which was really gay really. It was like...it was wrong! It was so wrong and I mean gay in the old school sense of the word Yeah, well we don't care actually on this show. No and uh gosh but I don't remember it... You had a lot of cars! Oh i had a Buick Skylark with an eight track in it with the t-top roof

1:37:13 That was my favorite car. It had eight cylinders, but usually if you were idling only six of them worked. That was one of my favorites. There was an engine General Motors had for a while that when you were driving it would go to four...it has the 8, but it would use 4 cylinders Yeah that was that was a thing for awhile I was probably in the 70's for awhile Yeah, well it's all because of global cooling. Yes... Well alright enough reminiscence! Right well people love our stories John they come for the deconstruction they stay for the stories about hydroxy boosters and aliens come on man we just gave everybody everything they want so back to Massie I have some more clips from him if you want to hear yeah of course I do Thomas Massey the guy you mentioned earlier in this show as a sellout or an anti-Trumper

1:38:06 You know he's got his reasons and I have a couple of... He is principled, is what he is. He's principled and I think he's right. Yeah totally in fact it's... It's explained in these clips but at the same time there is a... he does have a flaw in this thinking. I'm sorry people are just saying our new exit strategy is car talk that's it baby we're reviving the show will be on NPR stations everywhere soon So he does have a, I think this was a mistake. This is Massey, this is the Masak's clip that you tried to play earlier He actually implies that Americans are dumb and then he figures out that he said that and he corrects himself Listen to this

1:38:49 If the tariffs increase the prices, they're going to be annoyed by that. But I think the ideas behind tariffs which even Trump would probably agree with is not going to be an easy start but eventually you want to get to a place where people have more money because the industries are back in America. What if we're not good at making socks? What if what if we were better at growing potatoes this country than we aren't making socks should, you know when you go to Walmart should you be through tariffs induced to buy socks that weren't made as well or as ones made in China are made or were made more costly versus being able to go in and buy your potatoes that were made America because more of our effort was put toward things we're good at.

1:39:35 or things that we can... maybe we're good at everything. I don't want to disparage any industry, but- Yes! Exactly! Who are you Thomas Massey? We're great at making socks. We made gold toe socks forever here in this country and then they shipped them off the Mexico They're all made in Mexico now they're not as good Our socks were so good that it was the number one Christmas gift from your grandma We gave each other sock because our socks were great How hard is it to make good socks? So I find that disappointing. Yeah, well he talked himself into a bunch... You know what that's because of the Brit all of a sudden he thinks he's uh but i had a where was this i had a um okay there's another anonymous boots on the ground so one i was at a training i was in training with a federal agency during part of the class we watched a short video of Robert Cialdini's principles of persuasion

1:40:32 In addition to the principles, the instructor pointed out a subtle principle the video used. The narrator had a British accent. The instructor stated that Americans tend to find British accents pleasing to hear and we think that people who speak with a British accent are smart therefore we tend to put more stock or socks in what they are saying. Fact! So Massey was probably sitting there thinking, I'm here with an intelligent guy. We don't know how to make songs. Well this is the WMS William Marshall... I'm sorry Winston! Winston Marshall Show. Wow okay. That's the Winston Marshall Podcast

1:41:13 So now this is the thing, we've talked about this on the show before but I want to remind everybody that people seem to forget it. That if you're on a hot committee one of the better committees in Congress you have to pay You have to pay dues. Like a million bucks at least? It can be a million bucks at the ways and means, that's the top committee according to Massey and he hears his stories on this by the way Massey doesn't... He gets charged uh he's on some committees not in A committee like he puts it is A B & C Committee And you look who is on the C Committees you see who's probably more honest you never heard of any of them

1:41:52 He got a bill. It talks about getting the bill he doesn't say it in this clip But he never he'd never we refused to pay he never paid his committee fees Nope, oh Okay here we go this onion that people don't fully appreciate. I didn't know it existed until i got here when I got here a lobbyist wanted to have a meeting with me and I took the meeting and my fundraiser was there if this is a woman who helps me raise money she said you should take this meeting, and I had no idea what the meeting was about

1:42:30 And they said, they opened the meeting and said you're a talented individual. You're smart guy, you went to MIT. You shouldn't be wasting your time on these committees you're on. You need to get on the Ways and Means Committee and my friends and I will raise you the money that's required to get you on the Ways and Means Committee which by the way is like half a million or a million dollars What's the Ways and Means Committee? It is the tax committee. Okay, see it is considered probably the most powerful committee because we don't have a flat tax, we don't have a flat tariff because we have all these variations in deductions and exemptions and everybody here trying to get one of those if you are on that committee

1:43:13 You know, I'm for instance on the transportation committee. So you can imagine the concrete lobbyists would be interested right? Or the airplane manufacturers might be interested but guess who's interested in the tax committee everybody! It's not like a subset of America that is interested in that committee. Everybody is interested in that committee, and so all the lobbyists are prone to donating to people on that committee. So if you hold one of those committee seats, you're supposed to collect money from those lobbyists who are interested in the subjects that come before your committee and give it to the party.

1:43:50 system here. When I first got here and they went to the trouble of sending me the bill, it was $300,000 every election cycle I was supposed to give the party for the privilege of serving on these committees." Right! Well that's... we knew this. It was fun to hear him say it. Yeah, no, we knew this not everybody who listened to the show heard it before and I just wanted to remind them that this is a scam Well, he didn't pay for it. I think that's what's interesting. No, well his... They didn't kill him! He said no, not paying it. They didn't kill him? He never paid but they won't put them on a higher-end committee they keep them on these you know transportation committee right in one of the clips he talks about foreign affairs is the lowest of the lowest the low committee if people look up who was on Foreign Affairs Committee and see there's buncha guys that

1:44:39 You probably don't pay anything either, including Nancy Mace who's on that one. Oh really? But let's... here's the second half of this clip It was $300,000 every election cycle I was supposed to give the party for the privilege of serving on these committees and they say it's legal because the committees aren't in the Constitution So they believe it's something that they can extract rent from. And because this is all happening within Congress, there's...Congress isn't going to make a law to stop it so they charge you rent for the committees you're on and if you want to be on a really lucrative committee, you have to pay higher rent

1:45:18 And you don't go back home, I'm from Kentucky. I can't go back home and sit in somebody's living room and do a fundraiser with 20 people who like being represented by me, like what I stand for and tell them well, I'm gonna need y'all to get out your wallets and write me $5,000 check because this ain't free it's not cheap to be on the Ways & Means Committee You're gonna have to donate money to me just so that I can be on the committee Americans would revolt, you know the kind that you do a fundraising in their living room with. They would reject that out of hand but you can't do that with lobbyists. The lobbyist knows that's the game that is played and so

1:46:02 Yeah, so lobbyists like what you're doing for them on that committee. They're inclined to help pay your dues But what and there's no way you're gonna raise half a million dollars back home in living rooms To pay your rent on the Ways and Means Committee You have to give it get it from the lobbyists who have interests in front of the Ways and Means Committee Hmm but by the time you've done that now you feel obligated to those people yeah Yes, that is the system Yeah, it goes on with more details but it's all unnecessary. People need to know this is going on so you can see what's what So the Dutch government collapsed? Yes, yes Mimi I was talking to her about it she says oh my god how did this happen?! This was unbelievable! What's gonna happen!? What's gonna happen!? And I said...this happens? So when I heard this

1:47:04 The guy quit I think, didn't he just walk out? Well no and this report will not explain it but there's a little thing in here. So Geert Wilders is what if you remember the far right Trump of the Netherlands! He's the guy that's been under constant protection for the past 15 years because of his anti-his Islamophobia because he's like we gotta stop. We're a small country we can't have all these Islamists coming in and forming ghettos, and you know all of Europe is under severe strain due to immigrants newcomers asylum seekers. And one of the big...and so he stood for election with his PVV the Freedom Party

1:47:53 and did extremely well. You still need to create a coalition, so he got the Farmers Party and a couple others in there was very difficult to form the coalition So you have the majority in Parliament but one of the big things was we're going to stop the asylum seekers and immigration It's a very small country though We're gonna...and besides it is just wrong! We are gonna stop this And so one of the big promises was there will be no more of these asylum centers in all these small places that no one's ever heard on the outskirts of the country near the border. Of course, it just started to happen anyway and you recall that it was strange that he was the head of the party, he was leading the party but then they brought

1:48:45 former intelligence guy to be the prime minister. spook, a literal spook who was a spook during COVID. The guy was like why is this guy being chosen to be prime minister? Because you don't vote for the person you vote for the party but of course everyone voted for Geert Wilders and he said no I'm not going to be prime minister now i think this was a long long game and it's brilliant because the one thing every person in western Europe...I mean would you say arguably President Trump won on immigration. Would you say that was pretty much the thing? Yes, absolutely! So immigration... That's the thing everybody just wants it to stop particularly in Europe but we had it here like no we just want to stop which is funny because people are like whoa they're gonna deport my moms okay we wanted it to stop we voted for were actually getting what we voted for surprise surprise so this was about immigration

1:49:43 and the discussion on the table in the parliament was about immigration, and they couldn't get it through. His own coalition didn't have enough votes so he said that's it! We're done. We're not going to be a part of the coalition." And then the prime minister, rage quit! I'm out too! Rage quit... Yeah no one even this guy was he might as well have been invisible He spoke a little bit but he was a spook he just he was a figurehead and now i understand why i think it's brilliant because now we'll have elections again i think September October

1:50:20 And this is going to be the issue and Geert Wilders will be the guy who put his career on the line for it. I think he'll be elected with an overwhelming majority, here's the report. That's a gamble, isn't it? He has been gambling with his life for 25 years. Okay Now he is again under constant surveillance because you know he is pretty much like oh here is a cartoon of Mohammed you know that's he's pretty much made it very clear where he stands on this and if you ask anyone in Holland like oh he had Vilders anyway well here doesn't doing his job who's this guy and I think he forced this whole issue the cabinet only formed it like six months ago they couldn't form the cabinet for nine months there was a long long time so I think he really pushed

1:51:20 This episode so that they can have new elections and everyone's gonna be like this is the only guy Immigration is it we want him. He made the announcements online this Tuesday with a message posted on X No signature for our asylum plans no amendment to the coalition deal The PVV is leaving the coalition hit filled his departure due to disagreements on immigration has caused the government to collapse And as the Prime Minister promptly resigned, Wilders is hoping he can grab hold of the empty seat. Will your political career end here? Actually I'm going to be the next prime minister of The Netherlands. I'll stand in the elections so that the Party for Freedom becomes more

1:52:00 more popular than ever. The coalition was formed last July and finding middle ground has been an almost impossible task the country's minister for foreign affairs criticized the timing of Wilders decision it is irresponsible there is a war in Europe just a few hours away from here, there are wars all around Europe and the Middle East Trump's imposed tariffs and there are serious trade issues for a country that has such an open economy as ours. I think it is scandalous that he resigned from the negotiating table at this moment But for opposition groups, such as the Labour Party early elections would be chance to reshuffle the political landscape Well i think its opportunity for all democratic parties to rid ourselves of extremes because its clear with extremes you can't govern

1:52:42 When things get difficult they run away. Elections aren't expected to take place before October and considering how fragmented the Dutch political scene is, agreeing to a coalition could take many months more So no mention of the real issue in that report strangely enough But I think it's probably a very good bet that he is going to be extremely popular. And of course now it all depends on how they campaign for the next five, six months or so. It will also be determined somewhat by the media and how they handle this

1:53:21 The media could be pro-immigration and... Well, yes. But you have to know that the Dutch are rioting now! There are small towns everywhere where they're bombarding the city council They're throwing eggs at them. They don't want the eggs. Eggs? Oh yeah They don't want the asylum center. You can't ignore that news, that news is just too big they're everywhere and we do it the Netherlands does have regional news And you know what? It's like every socialist country. Everyone goes, oh yeah... In public like oh yeah but in private like screw these guys I want this guy builders so ultimately your vote is a private affair and i think he will be voted in and I think he will make big moves in the Netherlands The funny thing is they now have what they call a caretaker government

1:54:15 in the interim. So we'll continue to govern as if nothing happened It's really the funniest thing, a caretaker government and well you know there is little problem with this because we have the big NATO splash coming up so Dutch Minister of Defense Ruben Bricklemans what are you going do about it? Two days ago in The Netherlands coalition government collapsed And I want to stress here at the NATO Headquarters that it doesn't mean anything for our defense and for foreign policy. We as a caretaker government decided to act as if we are a regular government, just to continue business as usual because... Business as usual everybody which means that you're going to spend your money! International threats do not diminish if there are domestic political issues in the Netherlands so we will continue in the same way

1:55:11 also in preparation for the NATO summit which I expect is going to be an historic summit. We as a host country want to make this a big success and we will do all the necessary preparations of course, to make this summits... make the summit a success And participants will not see or experience anything different given the fact that we in The Netherlands now have a caretaker government Of course today's also going to be important to make sure that Allies get more aligned towards a new defense investment place and I expect that we will make further progress. What are the capability targets for the Netherlands? Can you go into more details on what you will be focusing again, everyone's on the same script the capability What is the cape mean how much money we're gonna spend yeah We call it capability of course. I'm not allowed to share any specifics about that

1:56:01 But what we do see in general, of course is that NATO is requiring more from us because the threat especially by Russia is increasing. We made a calculation of what those additional capability targets mean financially for the Netherlands and if you calculate this then it means that we should spend... In the medium term we should spend three and half percent at least on defense which in the Netherlands means an additional 16 to 19 billion addition to our current budget and that's what we also shared with Parliament so this is what NATO is expecting from us but what we will decide in terms of a new Defense Investment Pledge, a new NATO norm that's of course a political decision which we'll further discuss. There you go! So Elon Musk... What is it? That's fine and dandy all that stuff but

1:56:51 How does this affect the relationship within the EU, which is all pro-immigration? Well that's why Wilders is counting on his what we call the achterbomber or everyone in the back who was all going to rise up and vote for him. Yeah but again... The question I'll ask it again how does that affect the relationship of the Netherlands within the EU It will be horrible! Of course. Because the EU's worked with Hungary, which refuses to take any immigrants at all... He will be labeled a Nazi he will be labeled a dictator he will be labeled all of these things far-right ultra far right I don't know what they'll make of it oh yeah no of course not this is but this is why the Dutch voted for him in the first place there sick of it

1:57:42 I've said this before, they're sick of it. But they have no voice and he just didn't have enough power, enough votes. Talk to Swedes for example which has the same problem. Don't rise up! Don't see the Swedes being more passive than the Dutch although the Dutch were world Conquerors they were big shots in the 1600s. They did give up their bikes within 24 hours That is a classic no agenda callback by the way, that's a good Elon Musk just tweeted you ready for this Oh now we're going to the tweet wars time to drop the really big bomb and

1:58:24 Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public Have a nice day, DJT! Oh wow that's a good one! Well, actually that may be... if we're gonna go with the thesis or you are at least and I'm not in total disagreement but the thesis that this is a bullcrap play we're watching. We're witnessing a staged play Yes This would be the rationale for rolling out all the Epstein files Bingo! To prove Musk wrong Of course He's in on it In fact maybe Trump

1:59:03 having Musk do this because he knows he's not in the files but Trump himself, I believe this is a possibility. Trump himself is irked with Pam Bondage for sitting on these files! Yep and now they gotta come out cuz he has to prove he's not in them everything will be released everything every last drop you know speaking of such There is, you want to hear some Hill Country gossip? No. Do I want it... this is all I do the show for The only reason why I'm still doing the show Is because of this Four more years of this as long as I stay in Fredericksburg we're good to go The ladies had a lunch the other day The ladies had a lunch Am I lady? No! This is Ladies Who Lunch

1:59:52 Well, how did you get wind of it? My wife is my shoe. Oh she is in the ladies' lunch. Of course she is! They all want... Everybody wants Tina Currie at their party. You have a mole Yes I do and she'll sit right there and say Adam's gonna talk about this and I think they like it So, most people like to be talked about. And these are successful women who have had successful careers some still this one actually still has a successful career and here's what she said World War 3 is coming because all the names everything is going to come out and they need a distraction

2:00:35 So let's have a nuclear war instead of, you know, to distract us from who is on the list. Wow! What logic? I love it! I love the ladies so much This is the best, man. I mean...I used to have to search for this stuff now it just gets hand-delivered. And now it just comes right to you, dropped in your lap! I know, it's the easiest work ever It's fantastic Now this..uhh....I think uhh...you're bang on about this This is...this is the perfect setup And now we have to release it all and that does mean some names will come out. Now, will that necessitate World War III? I don't know. I doubt it. I highly doubt it. Everybody likes life. I think Bono's on there though. Bono?!

2:01:23 Bono he was just on Rogan. I haven't watched it yet, but he was on bonos all over the place He's trying to he sees he's creating screens. He's good is Bono is all of a sudden appearing because it turns out that Bono is on the flight logs at least five times under some name Oh Really there are some pictures of him floating around in memes Because I'm not really of all people Bono Huh, well that's interesting. That accounts for a lot of Bono's appearances. Hmm... And he shows up on Rogan? What?! Yeah! I saw that. Yeah yeah, that's interesting So i think this is- yeah it's possible that this is all a one two punch and it's all orchestrated

2:02:15 between Trump and Musk, and it makes more... And they would get picked up by the media because it looks as though they're having a feud. Yeah! And the media hates Trump to such an extreme that they're gonna- Oh here it is breaking news Justin new war of words erupts between Trump and Musk big ugly battle says Fox oh man it's a quad- Oh Fox is a sucker for it too. BBC, BBC, Trump & Musk sparring public fallout It's all on the quads John it's everywhere It's burning my retinas. It's on the quads! Talking about Fox being in the, you know we heard that clip where we played a few times ago about... I forgot it was Tucker interviewing somebody and they mentioned that Fox is really a bunch of liberals and you always like to say... Yes run by Democrats yeah Here is a clip

2:03:06 mentioning Fox, of the five. This is the waters clipped at the bottom. This is from The Five and this is a... At the end of show they do some letters to them. They read letters and the question is what would you do if you were a scammer? And you're gonna scam somebody it goes to waters about what were you gonna do if you're gonna scam somebody. He has this kind of crazy tale, Gutfeld's on the show says that oh this is meta and I'm gonna give you the headline so we can follow it when it is done

2:03:47 Water says, well if I was gonna scam somebody, I'd pretend to be a conservative and then work my way up the ladder and get my own TV show. And then stay there never mention it to anybody. If you were a... Oh sorry! Wait wait wait, I gotta do the whole thing. Alright. So Gutfeld says that's meta meaning it refers to something is actually going on at Fox. Yep. Then he says its meta-meta because Shannon Bream is sitting right next to Waters. She's the one this is targeted at and Gutfeld kind of hints at that when he asked her the same question next, and she's really good... You know, Shannon Bream I've always believed because I've gotten evidence of her not being a big supporter of Trump but she's you know she's just as she's a beauty queen

2:04:44 In every sense of the word, but I've never thought she was a conservative. And she...I think she's the phony they're talking about. Listen to this! If you were- This is from Frenchie. If you were a con artist what would your scam be? Jesse? Uh..I would pretend to be conservative and then i would get on television and dress really nicely. And then I would just climb the corporate ladder until I had a show and then just stay there for as long as I could Very convinced. That was so meta that it's actually meta-meta. Shannon, you would pretend to be a very religious... Somebody who could actually cook? Yes! Somebody who actually loves the Bible. You could be a Satanist that is rising up. No I could not. I could not. No, I would try and convince people that I can cook. Shannon Bream Oh Shannon

2:05:42 She's metamedic. Okay, can I just say yeah go ahead? No nothing. I just found that to be revealing They wanted to get it off their chest Shannon was at the table that day she's not a normal person like she's not normally on the five It's usually The other one can't remember her name offhand The blondie The one that used to be Bush's press secretary. I can't remember her name, yeah. McEnany? No no no no no no no no. It's ridiculous but i can't remember her name but she's very good. Perina. Dana Perino

2:06:25 Purina. Purina. Purina. Purina! So she's usually there, but so Shannon comes on once in a while and they mention when he...when Water says it and she's all...and he says this person is always gonna be really well-dressed Shannon at that on that table was dressed to the tens. I don't know what she's wearing, but it was high-end It's just so obvious that they give me I'm surprised as she doesn't go to HR about this about that situation Can I just doing you a favor by working here? She's I don't think she said anything

2:07:02 My eyes are, I got problems with my eyes because now of the quad box two of them have quad boxes in the quad box all talking about it. It's a multi-quad box and with that i want to thank you for your courage saying good morning to you the man who put the Cs in the COVID vaccine access say hello to my friend on the other end be one the only Mr John C DeVore Good morning, I'm Graham Grady from Seaboards and Rafi in the airsubs in the water of Dames. And the night's out there! And good morning to the trolls in the troll room let me count you for a second here. 1750 low or below average way beyond go ahead say it Go ahead my goodness what? You're expecting me to say this because the first hour of show yep that's what I'm expecting you to say

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2:12:57 fantastic work for us, which always delights people by showing you something on social media. It shows up in your podcast app. Oh what is this? Oh it's no agenda again! By the way I think I sent an email about this because i heard you and Andrew Horowitz talking about it on DH Unplugged which is a great podcast if you want to hear two guys talk about stocks and economics and meta-analysis and other odd things like AI art. You listen to that podcast live on Tuesday evenings, but it drops right after that so Wednesday is when people usually get it. And again you were complaining about the levels of white and just the levels of color in general in AI generated art. We're seeing it on our Art Generator NoahJendaArtGenerator.com Yeah I got another note from Animas Yes! You were rude to him if...you don't mind me saying

2:13:55 I was probably gruff. It was your typical... I told him it was good to hear from him, I tried to be nice You were rude! you do this with people. Ugh, it's just my... I'm running interference for ya here because I know you This used to send me into a tailspin I'd like Dvorak is such a douche I hate him, I'm quitting the show Now I'm like, it's just John. Whatever. People will forward me... He says he accused me of being skeptical about something or other and I... You know? Hold on a second! See you think everything is an accusation. You are the one with the long toes Yes I do. You nailed it This is my understanding to everything Everything is an accusation

2:14:47 Yes, it's really interesting. Yeah I picked this up as a writer Is that what is that where its from? yeah Here color space here your response was amazing skeptical of what I did that, there's no tonal in the... There is no mean looking emoji or anything. There is no emoji with a mean face When you start and finish What? I said it was this way This is the way it was presented I'm skeptical of what No! There's no I'm So this is your problem Okay, skeptical of what Skeptical of what? I am just asking, I'm not... Skeptical of WHAT?! Well, I'm going to try and explain it to you

2:15:29 In, remember netiquette? Do you remember netiquette? No you don't because your netiquette was never in your etiquettes. When someone emails you a very thoughtful and someone says John comma I'm interested in the reason for your skepticism So I can learn more. So when you don't say hi Animas Thanks for being such a great supporter and once again contributing to the conversation Skeptical of what no skeptical of what?! I'm just helping you brother. It's okay. Yeah, brother yeah okay keep going So i had a thought it was like all of the sudden that hit me! I know why the art is getting less luminous and why there are no whites and there aren't any darks or blacks This is entropy

2:16:18 AI is ingesting its own stuff and it's like making a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. And this was, of course brought up on the DHM Plug Show again because Horowitz uses AI to create the art for the show and he's real proud of it too! He's really proud of it you pooped all over him right away You think this is good? No, you're right about that one Well, I was a little...I was probably uh that was yes. Okay. I'll accept that one. Hey it's Tuesday night you don't really want to do the show at all You wanna do it but when its not Tuesday night. You could have other things to do There is sports ball to watch. I get it! But your committed. Your a committed guy In all these years 1,770 episodes you've always showed up except for one time

2:17:17 You were late because your analog alarm clock didn't change time with the daylight savings time. Well, I don't remember that but generally speaking punctual is the word. Yeah you are punctual yes you are Yes, I didn't find the art that be that compelling that he would be happy about it But we did bring up to muddiness and it was muddy. It was all this one tone of brown right? but what you didn't discuss This is entropy This is the beginnings of model collapse and I think that's exactly what we're seeing particularly with the free stuff people using free stuff

2:17:56 They're like, I have to give that model to those guys. And I wonder if our AI prompt jockeys if they're seeing that as well because it's very apparent us everything is getting fuzzier there just the colors aren't vibrant and maybe that's why people are resorting to making cartoonish artwork because holy moly there's a lot of it But first, let us wait before you go on. I want to thank our artists and we haven't thanked our artist yet. Well before you thank the artists even because you brought up all these sidebars. And i apologize to Animus for being a jerk by your standards and probably by his yep

2:18:40 Not that he's emailed me or anything, like what's up with John? Yeah. What's wrong with this guy? Here is a note from Darren O about flux context He says, ITM I haven't had a chance to play with the new flux model yet but the existing ones were quite impressive at creating realistic images. The context model this is the tip of the day for last show and I asked Darren to look at it and he's already very familiar with all this stuff going on. He says that of course yeah the context model really seems to shine with image modifications which is like I mentioned

2:19:20 Taking somebody's head and put it on someone else's right, right? This will make it much harder for people to distinguish between what is real and what isn't if you want to frame someone What's that in your mouth? And you have an image of a room in their home from a family snapshot. You can get instant believability. Wow, instant believability! I'll let you know once more but for now it's a pretty good tip of the day. Well there ya go. I think this is time for the bonus clip or maybe not... No yes!

2:20:00 This is a very, very big deal. Facebook parent Meta Platforms has announced that it is going into a 20-year deal with nuclear power provider Constellation Energy for a steady flow of electricity to power its AI data centers and that deal follows a similar tie up between Constellation and Microsoft involving the Three Mile Island Nuclear Power Plant also from Microsoft's AI ambitions and these commitments highlight big tech's insatiable need for electricity to fuel AI in fact enough juice To power a small city and on top of that AI facilities require enormous amounts of water to cool the equipment because they're just running full throttle all the time now

2:19:20 Taking somebody's head and put it on someone else's right, right? This will make it much harder for people to distinguish between what is real and what isn't if you want to frame someone What's that in your mouth? And you have an image of a room in their home from a family snapshot. You can get instant believability. Wow, instant believability! I'll let you know once more but for now it's a pretty good tip of the day. Well there ya go. I think this is time for the bonus clip or maybe not... No yes!

2:20:00 This is a very, very big deal. Facebook parent Meta Platforms has announced that it is going into a 20-year deal with nuclear power provider Constellation Energy for a steady flow of electricity to power its AI data centers and that deal follows a similar tie up between Constellation and Microsoft involving the Three Mile Island Nuclear Power Plant also from Microsoft's AI ambitions and these commitments highlight big tech's insatiable need for electricity to fuel AI in fact enough juice To power a small city and on top of that AI facilities require enormous amounts of water to cool the equipment because they're just running full throttle all the time now

2:20:48 What the big tech wants you to focus on is the benefits that could come from AI how society could change as productivity Productivity improves and as it becomes infinitely easier to create memes that you can post on Instagram and Facebook I'm On the other hand, this is an industry that is all but reinvigorating the nuclear power industry which was once pretty much on the ropes as other fuel sources were found and now big tech is bringing nuclear power back in a big way. So on one hand what we have here are memes, on the other hand Three Mile Island

2:21:24 You figure it out. There you go, memes versus Three Mile Island. And our art! And our art that's right by the way is called now Fox is calling it The Big Ugly Battle Darren O'Neill brought us the artwork for episode 17-69 we titled that Mr Umami That's right Remember that everybody? Umami mouth feel Yes, we had some debate about this. We did have a debate. And I came up with the thesis that you agreed with Okay so first of all it was cartoonish depiction of a lorry driving into Russia with a shed and a little happy drone smiling out of the back, which the whole idea was good. Your objection which was valid as it said created by Curry and Dvorak and that is not true it's not anything we don't use that byline but we still decided on using it you have a thesis yes

2:22:26 Because I the piece. I wanted was rapid human cloning yeah, which was another cute piece by digital 2-1-1 Oh yeah, I remember this. This is Darren O'Neil's alter ego. Digital211man is Darren O'Neil and somebody out there...I figured in the chat room, the troll room could figure out digital 2112man that's code for Darren O'Neill somehow. Yeah! This is Darren O'Neil style

2:23:04 is his sense of humor. Everything about Digital 211 Man is Darren O'Neal, he's producing too much material... Yeah we're outing you! We are outing you Darren O'Neill He's producing too much material to try and win every show and he has decided that because it would look ridiculous if Darren O'Neill Darren O'Neill like he's cranking this stuff out left and right The code has already been cracked Is Darren O'Neill a fan of Rush? Has he played Rush on his pre-show? Yes, he has. 2 1 1 2 That is code for the band Rush

2:23:52 Interesting. Could be, could be so we've determined that this is Darren O'Neill or AI has gone rogue and his clone Darren O'Neill That's possible This is also very possible it's figured AI Is so dangerous that has figured out how to Be just like Darren and is registered at no agenda art generator It's going to take over So, obviously the type of prompts... This is like art detection. Where you find who's the forged piece? What makes it forged? What makes it fake? You can do this as something that you would if you were a hobbyist and this what I have determined. I think your right! It's obvious so Darren come clean and we'll let you off the hook. Yeah If not

2:24:46 If not, the digital 2112 man has to reveal himself. Yes yes he must. You know I don't want to hear some phony baloney as Darren's neighbor. You're a Norse me! Yeah yeah there was... it is quite obvious and it's all very cartoony It's kind of like you know and when you see the piece that we chose by Darren And then you see the digital 2-1-2-1 you know Blue Acorn may be Darren as well for all I know This may all be Darren Blue Acorn has a slightly different style. Yeah, blue acorn has a dimensionality to his art that Darren never has in terms of shading. Well I'm sick of it! I'm sick of it! I'm sick of it! Stop it! You can't do anything about this too late! I'm sick of all of it! Sick of it I tell you! Alright thank you very much Darren we love your brother... Oh I said brother again there ya go. Hey your on this brother thing. Well you have to understand Better than dude yeah well at this because

2:25:46 I have a hard time remembering names. You know, on the show like we always have nicknames for people. We can't like Dana Purina. What are we? Purino. Purina! We'll always remember Dana Purina because we can't remember...I can't remember these these by the way do you still use Prevagen? Prevagen? Didn't you say... I've never used Prevagen. I thought, I remember you telling me that you use it for like short-term memory No no B12 Oh just b12 i gotta tell my neighbor this I told him the wrong thing

2:26:23 What is Prevagen for? It's some sort of squid. No, I thought you used Prevagen when you were driving up to Washington in an EV. Oh no! You're thinking about the drug ProVigil. ProVigil?! Oh man, I told him the wrong thing... Pro Vigil, that's the stuff. You want that! Oh I gotta tell them... oh man. No Previg is just a bullshit memory supposed memory upper. Pro Vigil? Okay. Yeah Pro Vigil keeps you awake sharp this is what the fighter pilots use. Sharp as attack!! This would fire your pilots use if they have their long mission, so they don't get drowsy Okay, for a prep Previgil wait Pro Vigil it's like vigilant pro you're pro vigilant pro vigil got it. Got it Yeah, that's a prescription drug now he'll get it pro vigil Thank You appreciate that

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2:27:58 Commodore Archduke from Winter Park, Florida. Show number donation! Whoa we haven't had that in a long time 1770 show number donation aka Blofeld donation From Commodore Archduke of Central Florida great stuff guys. Thanks for clarifying the media for us five six more years All right Thank you, or I was gonna say the brother thing. I'm gonna explain it So I can't remember names. But the good thing is when you're saved, when you become a Christian You just call everybody brother! I walk into the church Sunday like hey brother how are ya doing? Hey Brother! You do that if Hulk Hogan does the same thing He's also he's saved...He just got baptized Hulk Hogan Yeah he just got baptized but he's been saying brother for at least 25 years Sure but i'm not hulk hogan and i'm not a wrestler and don't have a sex tape

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2:31:24 There you go yak and relationship karma one after another. I find it screwy yeah, and we're already the Eli the coffee guys in Bensonville Illinois he came here with 206 05 you'd appreciate him because your laced with coffee today uh-huh if humanity used its technological might for advancement of civilization society He writes we might actually have landed on the moon by now We might have landed on the moon by now. Yeah, no... Instead our use of technology is focused on destruction! Subjugation!

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2:35:13 John and I did discuss you after the last show. Sage Advertising Council? I'm sorry? That's what she wrote, usually it says Sage Advertising. No she says... Hello? I'm reading the copy! She said something... Oh oh because it didn't fit on the spreadsheet Thanks for the Sage Advertising Council love you mean it I'm sorry Stupid... I got... I denounce Excel Getting off this no, I'm using excellence on mine. Yeah, it's it's a crap shoot. I still think correct Yes Well there's that well and you know what's popping up the little co-pilot thing is now I'm gonna hit the oh Clippy ass Co pilot ask Oh party I'm gonna ask Co pilot here. Here. I'm gonna ask Co pilot Okay, Co pilot where do I ask? And I want auto save I want to ask you question

2:36:12 It's a nightmare, don't do it! I want to ask Copilot a question. How can i ask copilot a question? Well that's turn on auto save... What?! I don't want to do that! I wanna ask you a question Stupid co- okay copilot doesn't even ummm I still think for resume the gets results was a great line That is just my personal opinion uh..it went viral people were using it And then, you know to change it for a resume that showcases your unique value proposition tells compelling career stories. I'm going to agree with you on this so...I just think... I think it's snappier and she should go back to it

2:36:53 He's already gone back to the dot ink with a K. Yeah, which is a good one yes Which isn't which is clarification? Which is always a good way to you should always have clarification Always good but a snappy his snappy little Diddy yes is better than one that's Lengthy as witnessed by the first hour of the show I He got it in. I was waiting for it to come, but there you go. You got me nailed. There it is Thank you to the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1770 we'll be thanking more people in just a bit actually $50 and above we appreciate you so much We love doing this It's public service we do and when you return the value it just makes us feel all that extra special

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2:38:35 having TikTok clips, I only have one. Why don't you do your TikTok clip and then i'll do my Pride Month clips? There's a thing going around in this TikTok clip epitomizes it called hoax etymologies Hoax etymology is that like deconstruction of hoaxes No, no. Hoax etymology in other words you come up with a fake etymology of the word and it goes viral and it's usually done... The whole hoax is created by somebody else and if your sucker you buy into it then go out and post about it. This particular one which is the use of the word picnic is elucidated in Snopes as a

2:39:22 hoax, an etymological hoax. And this woman a black woman and other one of the lecturers that like to lecture white people will reveal what they should reveal this going around play it. Here's a list of words to help you decolonize your summer. I'm like with anything... I like this already! This morning I woke up you know what my first thought was? I need to decolonize my summer. It just won't be the same! Here's a list of words to help you decolonize your summer and like with anything our vocabulary evolves it isn't about being woke, it's about elevating your vernacular to fit the times and the paradigm that we're in so welcome first stop saying picnic

2:40:14 Picnic originated from pic-a-n word. The word picnic originated in the 1700s, but gained popularity once people enjoyed lynching black people and spreading a nice charcuterie board along the trees as people were being lynched. Instead of using the word picnic, why don't you use barbecue? outing You can use outdoor excursion gathering rendezvous What have you make it up just know that every time you use that word. You are perpetuating the history of lynching I think I Recall Mo and I discussing this at some point. I don't think it's true

2:41:06 No, it's not true. The word came in the 1600s...not the 1700s! It has nothing to do with lynching. It was a French word that had nothing to do with the N-word or anything in between this is bogus This is a fake etymological hoax and she bought into it and the rationale according at least Snopes and others is that this is done to show how stupid people are and anyone who follows up by bringing this into the lexicon, it just proves that they're an idiot. And it's done specifically targeting people that are susceptible to this sort of nonsense so that they're dumb or stupid. That's interesting. Just on this TikTok for a second, TikTok has announced something which I think is amazing

2:41:59 It shows they come from a very different place than all of the big tech platforms. And in fact, it may even encourage you to load the TikTok app on your phone after you take it out of the drawer and charge it. You know what? The phone I have...I don't know what technology they're using for the battery but I can leave that phone in the drawer for months and is still fully charged! Well, what apps do you have on it? None. That's the whole reason why these phones are running out of juice is because of all the spying and spurning and reporting, all this stuff it's doing under the hood

2:42:46 Listen to this. Now, to some big changes for social media giant TikTok it's launching new self-care tools designed to give users more control over their content experience the announcement was made exclusively on Good Morning America the new features include managed topics which is a setting that allows users to adjust how often they see content from more than 10 popular categories including travel nature sports and creative arts Also included is an enhanced keyword filtering tool now powered by AI. Users can plug in up to 200 keywords of content they would prefer to avoid. TikTok also introduced and updated safety center guide designed to help users better understand and customize their For You feed

2:43:30 Now, of course you don't see the video with this but they show the screen of it and there's six or seven sliders. They're literally letting you control your own algo which is the one thing people actually want! This is... Remember this is the secret sauce of TikTok They're just saying, oh here it is. You control it you want more dumb people who talk about dumb stuff? Who are clearly... This why I don't want it on a phone and have the phone running because I could be watching this all day! Yeah that's exactly what- It is the smartest thing I've seen from a social network for a long time. I think its genius and they're gonna just blow past everybody with this mainly because

2:44:16 They are social shopping. They're not based on strife and getting you angry and keeping you engaged, they give you what you want! So just give people what they want and if they're done with it there's a sliding less cooking videos more cooking videos this is perfect the cooking videos are just unbelievable it all includes cheese Everything. Yes, always yes a lot of cheese and they're always opening packages and dumping them in it just there's another thing that's always in the can or some sort of us some sort of plastic wrap and then goes in if it comes in a bag or has a barcode it is to be avoided as my motto

2:44:59 Here's NPRs morning edition to remind us that June is Pride Month. World pride is underway here in Washington DC, the international festival celebrating all things LGBTQ has taken place in Copenhagen London and Sydney but as NPR's Elizabeth Blair reports attendance and sponsorships are down this year World Pride DC has been going on since mid-May. Ryan Boss, executive director of Capital Pride Alliance says they've organized some 300 events across the city dance parties a film festival family activities like drag story hour and events for

2:45:37 That was the best part. Family activities like... Dance parties, film festivals, family activities like Drag Story Hour Come on kids! Let's go to drag story hour it's time for a Saturday outing! Now where was this? This is NPR? NPR Morning Edition And this is they nor- so they've normalized drag story hour as a family activity on NPR Family time! ...a film festival, family activities like drag story hour and events for military personnel. But Boss says the Trump administration's anti-drag and trans policies and rhetoric have had a chilling effect... A lot of our service members are being forced back in the closet because they're afraid of being who they are at their work and that is just extremely disheartening

2:46:27 People from around the world travel to World Pride festivals, but this year Boss says hotel bookings are below what they were expecting. Sponsorships are also down past DC pride sponsors including Booz Allen Hamilton and Comcast didn't come back this year They did not return NPR's request for comment. Ooh The money is drying up gee That is a problem. Companies, I think overall are in it in a very tough spot. Luke Hartig is president of Gravity Research which recently surveyed roughly 200 Fortune 1000 companies about their pride sponsorships he says more than 1 third of them plan to decrease their pride support this year many of them do business with the federal government Federal contractors are in a particularly precarious place when it comes to Pride because Pride is so closely integrated into broader DEI efforts

2:47:18 And when it comes to the administration's power to regulate DEI in the private sector, their powers are probably at their greatest when it comes to federal contractors. I think for a lot of companies celebrating pride just comes a little too close to the danger zone." This was always pandering. No one cared about you in the corporate world, it was pandering! It's a hard pill to swallow. Pride festivals are by their nature political... What? Pride festivals are by their nature political?!

2:47:57 I thought it was just to be celebrate, celebrate yourself and your... Yeah we're learning something new from NPR. Pride Festival's on! Wait wait wait, sorry the second thing we've learned the other one is that dragged story hour is a family activity Pride festivals are, by their nature political. That community includes the more than 250 singers in the Gay Men's Chorus of Washington The chorus was scheduled to perform at the Kennedy Center with a National Symphony Orchestra in May during World Pride but shortly after President Trump announced he would take over the institution The chorus was informed that the event would not take place. The orchestra told NPR the concert was postponed for financial and scheduling reasons Not because it was a pride event

2:48:42 Thea Kano, artistic director of the chorus says it was disappointing. You know nobody wants to be cancelled or feel like they've been cancelled and but that's why right away I thought well we cannot be silenced music is our protest We are resilient. The Gay Men's Chorus of Washington organized an international choral festival for world pride. The organization says some choirs from abroad pulled out because of the tension in Washington, a big closing ceremony... Is that the proverbial pulling out of the church before singing? I'm just trying to say... Pulling out... A broad pulled-out because of the tension in Washington

2:49:37 closing ceremony for World Pride DC takes place this weekend. There's a parade and concerts featuring Jennifer Lopez, Cynthia Erivo and Dochi J-Lo is performing. And Goat Cheese? Was that the last one? Goat Cheese! J-Lo and Goat... Hey I don't want to say too much But I started this show with the most boring topic. You despised me for it because it was... It wasn't... You're exaggerating my critique It wasn't top of mind, no one cared about it. But somehow... I know you're looking at the four monitors right now and that's all they're talking about. And thank God! Am i right? Yes but this is what so great about it because now the conversation has moved from Trump as in The Epstein Files to he would have never been elected without me his tariffs will cause a recession and we should impeach him

2:50:37 And without our, at the beginning of the show which people will hear saying this is a gambit. This is a scam. This has all set up now the no agenda people will be calm mission accomplished well I'm glad you like to pat yourself on the back I'm not going to argue against it if possibly your right what? and what yeah So I have a couple of short clips. All right, I want to play this one just so i can get my little rant out of the way This is the AI comment from the this is kill me on Fox News Making a comment that I want to make some statement about

2:51:25 Okay, kill me. How do you juggle that with the emerging AI that could really hurt blue-collar Americans as they begin to take the jobs and even some white collar Americans? Is this a really high wire act for Republicans to manage? Alright rant away! AI is going to take away if it's gonna take away jobs its gonna take away white collar bureaucrat jobs Blue collar, plumbers and electricians and carpenters. AI's not gonna have any effect whatsoever on the blue collar and I mentioned this on the DHM Plug Show if any kids out there wanna make sure that they have a job forever get into the trades if you want an education sure go get your degree in social sciences or history or whatever

2:52:19 and you can be, you can say your educated but become a welder. AI is not going to replace welders. No that was very short rant! There wasn't much too it but I'm just saying you know you cant say that AI's gonna take away blue collar jobs. No of course not I don't think it's going to take away that many white collar jobs either. I think it is going to take away a lot of white collar jobs, and its already taken away the jobs... Look at the spot art that we're using! That's what white collar job means for an artist. Right but thats more in advancement like Photoshop did that And then people became really good with Photoshop. You are right. Photoshop took away a lot of art jobs. I can create what Darren O'Neill creates

2:53:06 You have to have talent to operate these tools. Yes, you gotta have the talent so you might as well and that's what if it was a job that needs no talent whatsoever? Paper pusher like podcaster No, you know the funny thing is a joke but I'm not worried that AI unit we've heard AI do trying to do podcasts they only do is a deep dive and they make mistakes. Well but AI can't do law because it hallucinates it can't do marketing cuz it sucks its too wordy, it can't write novels. The songs... Where's my number one hit on the Billboard chart from an AI song? No! It can't do any of that. No it's not coming. It's not gonna happen. You need a living person to gyrate on stage. It just doesn't happen. Now if you listen to CBS mornings the Wall Street Journal editor I guess the tech editor

2:54:05 Oh no, let me just tell you. AI? It's going to take over the world baby! My talk on the table is how AI is learning to escape human control that's a very scary headline I saw in The Wall Street Journal it's an essay written by a very worried AI consultant named Judd Rosenblatt who cites two recent studies to argue that AI is in fact learning to escape human control first This is crazy stuff. Researchers gave OpenAI's O3 model a simple script that would shut off the model when triggered In 79 of 100 trials, the AI model independently just on its own edited the script so shutdown command would not work. Nate, Nate, Nate it gets worse! Even when ordered allow yourself to shut down the AI still disobeyed 7% of the time and it gets even more frightening than that Other researchers listen this using Anthropics' AI model Claude Four Opus

2:55:06 told the model it would be replaced by another AI system. It then fed fictitious emails into the system suggesting one of the engineers was having an affair, got it? In 84% of the test, the AI model drew on the emails to blackmail the engineer to not shut down the AI. What? I'm quoting now from Judd in other cases The AI model attempted to copy itself onto external servers We're in Mission Impossible land here wrote self replicating malware and

2:55:42 left messages for future versions of itself about the need to evade human control. The entity, the entity is real! And that's why so many people and when I say people me are worried about AI. So what they forget or a man I'm glad I am actually glad you got this clip But they're omitting some key information a lot. They're omitting everything go ahead We had this was the dinner table conversations with JC who is all deep into AI And he says this is all the equivalent of writing on a piece of paper, I'm alive and then giving it to a copy machine. It comes out and says I am alive and you assume the copying machine is alive because it said so! Well even worse than that this was a test that they did They expressly exposed to AI this so called email

2:56:42 of an affair, it wasn't true. They put it all in there. It was like a test that they did just to psych everybody up and CBS of course falls for it like a bunch of nerds AI is like working with a toddler with ADHD who has perfect syntax. Doesn't mean the toddler can write a novel, doesn't mean the toddler can create an application it has perfect syntax but it's like saying I have a kitty litter box with a turd in and take the turd out The kid will go ah! Go off to the beach get some sand throw into a new box bring it back put the turd in another box then its done

2:57:27 AI is inherently not intelligent. It is stupid, perfected syntax it's really good at it doesn't you need talent you need almighty intelligence to use artificial intelligence that's just it nothing to worry about I think it will actually create more jobs It's not going to take away jobs. It will take away certain jobs, but people can learn how to do other things You had the perfect example Learn to code! Learn to prompt that's what it is Alright That's a bogus story Totally bogus. It's a promotion Promotion for Anthropic That's all that is was They probably paid for it Yeah well they did have a plug in there for Anthropic I liked that They probably paid for it

2:58:10 All right, I'll give you one or two more. It's all up to you Okay, i can do Africa and China in Africa Do you want to scare people off from the last few minutes of the show? That would be a good point but okay forget that How about the doofus... oh there was something else I'm not gonna play that clip I will play uh The Attacks on Referendums this is a four-parter it may be too long Up to you As long as you don't say after this- How much time we have left? Really none. Alright then I'll- Honestly, honestly no hold on a second let me do it this way Uh John uh we're almost at the end of time can you hurry along and play one more clip? Okay let's just play this then This is a um Now you got me cornered because i'm looking for a one line one shot clip I mean I could just play maniacal laugh

2:59:10 I'll give you maniacal laugh as a bonus. Okay, now you get to play one more clip. Let's just go with the Russia-Trump talks update and then we'll be done. President Trump today speaking by phone with Russian president Vladimir Putin The call comes after a series of high profile attacks on Russia by Ukraine. And today's international correspondent Ariane Pazdar has the details President Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin had another phone call on Wednesday afternoon.

2:59:46 Trump said, we discussed the attack on Russia's docked airplanes by Ukraine and also various other attacks that have been taking place by both sides. Kiev recently used drones to strike several Russian airbases. Ukraine says it destroyed many of Russia's nuclear-capable bombers. And Ukraine also posted this video saying it attacked a bridge connecting Crimea to Russia The rail and road bridge is a key supply route for Russian forces in Ukraine. According to Trump, it was good conversation but not the conversation that will lead to immediate peace. President Putin did say – and very strongly- that he will have to respond to the recent attack on airfields

3:00:28 Special envoy to Russia and Ukraine, Keith Kellogg tells Fox News that the attack could raise the risk of escalation. I'm telling you the risk levels are going way up. What happened this weekend people have to understand in the national security space when you attack an opponent's part of their national survival system which is their triad, the nuclear triad that means your risk level goes up because you don't know what the other side is gonna do Was that an RT report? That was kind of a cool voice. I liked him. That was NTD. Oh, NTD. My sources, sources familiar with the matter tell me that UK was behind this and it kinda fits with Keir Starmer all of sudden being Mr Warr And it wouldn't surprise me

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3:14:27 And those meetups take place all around the globe. We love it when people send in reports and let us know how things went, and we have a very famous super arch... what is the top level? The Archduke? Grand Duke! I'm sorry. The Grand Duke of Tokyo that's who i'm talking about. Grand Duke Mark And he sent us the report for the Tokyo meetup from May 31st. Hey John, hey Adam, Sir Mark here We're having another great meetup in Tokyo rolling out the red carpet for our international guests. Irasshaimase!

3:15:08 In the morning, this is Sir Patrick Coble, Duke of the South out here in 10 Cups. Howdy! And Dame Sarah. Dame Catherine they're eating the dogs. Sir James they're eating the cats This is Marina Hi Dad I know you are listening This is Harold Yoroshiku onegaishimasu This is Abhi I got ants Hey Adam and John C, this is Brandon coming to you from Ten Cups in Tokyo. I sunk my boat today in Yokohama Harbour. Otsukaresamadeshita! Hi John and Adam much love to you both and we're celebrating Ono Sato's win to Yokozuna! Yeehee! Day mastered here Straight from Tokyo Here's Raven

3:15:55 Raven now apparently has a job in Tokyo and Sir Mark also sent me pictures of the meetup, good-looking people. There were so many night in Dame rings it wasn't funny and Dame Astrid has a dynamite new hairdo I got you gotta take a look at short looks fantastic I'm just saying that A promo sent in by Dirty Jersey Whore, way too long. The East Texas June meetup let's listen how long we can stand it. Y'all come on down to Rotolo's Pizzeria in Longview Texas for an extra order! ordinary gathering of minds. Indeed, my dear friends do allow me to extend a most cordial invitation prepare yourselves for we are orchestrating a rendezvous that promises to be more delightful than a perfectly brewed cup of Earl Grey on a crisp morning kindly mark your esteemed calendars for the 29th of June

3:16:51 You have to hit the gong when you're tired of it. There will be no grand pronouncements, no tiresome pitches. There it is! There's the gong. Two minutes of promo that's not a promo That's longer than I allow end-of-show mixes Dirty Jersey or... 30 seconds should be your goal Yeah I think so too It was cute but it was just too much Think about a TV ad They sell them in thirty second increments and one minute ones are boring This was two minutes Too long

3:17:45 There is a meetup happening tomorrow, Big Tom's Bar in Brussels. Oh yes! We want to have the Southampton-Brussels Belgium Meet Up Report Remember to include your server 6 o'clock at last minute meet up at Big Tom's bar Can't wait to hear the report from that. And on Sunday, our next show day, the fourth annual Louisiana Crawfish Boil! Two o'clock is when it kicks off at Shaw Acres you've got a RSVP for that one in Prairieville, Louisiana Mary Moon is hosting that sounds like that's gonna be fun coming up on the agenda we have the Copenhagen Denmark meetup We have the Lazarus Waard Culemborg Meetup New York City This is on the 14th

3:18:26 We got Cannes, and France on the 17th. Who says we're not international? Please I want to have meetup reports from all of these faraway places and you can schedule your own or find out where these are at noagendameetups.com Go ahead go check it out if you can't find one near you You must start one yourself! It's a fact! Sometimes you wanna hang out with all the nights and days So if I know detected no, no you do have one eye so I thought that you were like on some kind of strike because I didn't like the

3:19:17 AI. You don't like the good AI ones even though you loved them for a couple of months until you found out they were AI, you're an AI bigot! Correct that would be me so you have a four-second one? That's a violation itself says three seconds on my rundown I would like to introduce you to a new brand of Angus beef here's mine it is damn good storytelling Boom. Do you like that one? Yeah, okay we'll use that one. And right now ladies and gentlemen as we round out the show it is time for the famous John's tip of the day! Great advice for you and me just a tip with JCB...and sometimes Adam

3:20:05 My ISO is actually designed to kind of ridicule Megyn Kelly and her advertising. Oh my gosh, she does so much of it! And a lot of it native or native sounding. Yes yeah She's good at it I have to say she's just good. She's good. Megyn is good Her morning updates...I listen that every day. I like her morning updates. She's become like a little network of sorts A little network of sorts. Yes, that's not a shirt size. She is 5'6". 135 pounds! Okay so you've had these little lighter devices or scripto usually makes them you squeeze them and a little flame comes out the top and you light your fire your fireplace fire? No I just use a Zippo like all men Use a Zippo lighter for lighting like a cigarette lighter Yeah Zippo baby

3:21:05 Or you have to stick it in there completely, doesn't have a point. Well anyway most people have these scriptos these lighters that they use like barbecues with for example if you used the Zippo lighter to light a barbecue wouldn't yet after you soaked it in some sort of flammable liquid you blow off your hand Yes So anyways Don't buy the ones that you normally get, which have a little flame to come out but you click it and it's flame because it's wimpy. You want to skip that. Scripto also makes an obscure more obscure but you can find them they're called a torch flame. And its literally looks just like regular scripto thing with the pointy end in those little thing you click like that

3:21:58 Only the flame is not like some wimpy flame. It's like a propane butane thing that you know that you could weld with, You can solder with this thing Wow! it's an intense little flame. It's dangerously so That could burn through stuff. It's fabulous and this is the way to go. It's called a torch flame You can find them, they do have them. You have to almost look it up specifically to find them. They only sell in onesies or not in packs of three and you actually have to look for them and vary in price but there about the same price although I've seen a more expensive. There about the same prices as wimpy little lighter this is what you want. Torch flame?

3:22:41 From Scripto, yeah. Torch Flame. I'm looking it up here... How big is this thing? It's the normal size. The sizes of every one of these things are all about the same size as a regular Scripto lighter but this thing is what you want. Wow! That looks cool. You can also do creme brulee with it Yes, that's the cool thing about you can literally burn your initials in the creme brulee. There it is ladies and gentlemen John Cena Borax tip of the day look at all over on the tipoftheday.net Created by for you and me just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam created by Dana Brunetti That's right where we be without Dana Brunetti? We barely have a show without him

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3:27:07 I didn't expect the cancer to be over here. There's no, it was not in any organ. My bones are strong and hadn't penetrated so that's kinda good. Former President Joe Biden addressing his health for the first time since being diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer saying he has started treatment. It's all a matter of taking a chill. And for next six months or another. This at Memorial Day service- It hasn't penetrated my bones! That's what he literally said Says I'm an American. The best podcast in the universe! It is damn good storytelling