Boomer Mode

00:00 Oh, there's a dead crow. Let's throw him in the cat food! Adam Curry John C. Devorak This is no agenda Battling bird flu and broadcasting live from 15 feet below sea level. Here at Schiphol in Amsterdam, The Netherlands In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody wishes you a happy holidays! I'm John C. Dvorak Yeah baby 805 in Amsterdam The Netherlands going to midnight one more time

00:43 Starts right? Yeah, the show starts late here. I'm always amazed at how many Dutch people are listening. What do you got something better to do on your Thursday night? Seriously, yeah what is there to do on Thursday night really here nothing it is we're in the middle of the car wash It's gray outside. It's just gray and rainy and wet its grain rain here too, but it's not rainy. It's just wet Yeah, well this more like England. It's just there's no right. Oh see me rain But every time why said everything went how did that happen? I don't know Hey, Merry Christmas. So this is the day after Christmas Boxing Day? Yeah boxing day you know it took me probably 20 years 30 years to figure out that it wasn't a kangaroo thing No I thought no no never thought was a kangaroo thing if that had do with some you know Muhammad Ali or something Although there's gonna be a big boxing match sure there was a big match or something

01:38 And then it was, I think it was in England when you figured out. Now wasn't there a big Netflix football streaming extravaganza this year at Christmas? Was this something that was new that I didn't see about? Where was it? Oh! It's on Netflix streaming oh yeah and Beyonce did a whole... Because I looked on the channels I knew there were some football games but I forgot it was on Netflix so I'm not gonna go to their. Yeah, Beyonce did a whole 15-minute halftime show Beyonce the cowgirl must have crashed a few times no no apparently it went well everything went well Good for them. Yeah, so you probably have the audience that Jake Paul could draw I Haven't looked at the numbers actually but we said oh I do have one clip to play cheese I can't off the bat which is which is the

02:26 I want to ask about your Christmas. Well, this will go right into it. Okay all right This is the talk clip this is the happy holidays clip. You're starting with talk clips right off the bat? All my clips are talk clips. This is hurting the show Wishing people a Merry Christmas when you don't know what holiday they celebrate It's sort of like wishing someone a happy birthday when you don't know when their birthday is Like, yeah I get the sentiment but you're a little off. That's neither here or there but I get a kick out of people who insist on saying Merry Christmas instead of just saying Happy Holidays! Happy holidays everybody! We're back to this again? we still haven't figured this one out? We can't say Merry Christmas? Well heres the question in my mind... When is 4th July? That's a holiday

03:21 Do we say happy holidays? No, we say happy 4th of July or Happy Independence Day. It's Veterans' day. Yeah but hold on a second this year I saw your newsletter you know we still celebrate important things like Kwanzaa and Festivus, and? Kwanzaa's not a holiday. And Hanukkah started on the same... Hanukkah is not a holiday there still you don't take there's no federal time off for Hanukkah. There's no federal time off for Kwanzaa I see what you're getting at! You're getting it the holiday part So if you say happy holiday like say yesterday or today what are you referring to why don't you enlighten me

04:11 You're referring to Christmas. Yes, so why don't you say Merry Christmas or Happy Christmas because it's Christmas We're talking about here because when New Year comes along that's another holiday You don't say happy you don't say hey you see a Happy New Year is a Happy Holidays during new year Why is it only? Christmas You know this issue comes up because there's a hatred of Christians. Yes, only possible explanation It's it's part of DEI is part of inclusivity that you don't want to skip I understand your point is well made it's ridiculous obviously but if everyone said when it was July the 4th and everyone said happy holiday

04:54 Then and if his veterans did ever said hey if people said it consistently around all year round then I wouldn't do wouldn't be a bitch with me You know what's kind of scary is This is exactly the same Kind of conversation that I found myself or my two sisters and their husbands and Tina We were having at the Christmas celebration, and I said hold on a second We've reached it. We finally done it all the kids are doing something else and not interacting with us we are the old boomer adult sitting at the table bitching about how it used to be better This happened to me this Christmas, It was this Christmas. It's about time! It was very disturbing to me

05:39 I was like, oh what are we doing here? Yeah. Mimi had a good phrase because they were at the Jay and Brandon they were having people over or something and yeah there you know they're gonna do a little event And I was talking to her about it. Hold on, hold on! You guys actually celebrated Christmas this year? No they had some event... Our Christmas is just like this Let me look at the calendar Oh and this time of year it's December 31st Okay just checking Yeah don't kid yourself So she came over to us and said if they invited me then I wouldn't want to go She says yeah who wants to be the token boomer

06:22 Yeah. You don't want to be the token boomer? No, you don't! Well I'm not the boomer because they all recognize me as the face of Generation X even though technically I guess i'm a boomer yeah technically you are...you're in the beginning at the Boomers or the end of the Boomers? We got it covered we got boomerism covered from beginning to end There were people in Italy who say oh I know you and they're pulling up clips of me from Rogan and my voice is dubbed in Italian It's amazing What yeah, yeah Rogan's that popular did dubbing the podcast in Italian. I'll be getting Italian How'd you sound? Buena We picked up some bird flu by the way we both are very sick

07:11 Well, it seems unlikely as bird flu but you got some flu, some bug I think it's bird flu. You can call bird flu. Did you get any relenza or some type of flu? No actually we went to the Pharmacia in Florence before we left for Amsterdam. You sound good! You don't sound like your bird fluey. I'm close-miking it tonight, so actually...I should probably close the drapes. I can hear a little echo. Anyway we went into the pharmacia and said they got any ivermectin? Boom! Right there no problem you want some ivermectin boom and I have to say you take like six milligrams 18 milligrams of ivermectin within an hour your start to feel better. I had a really bad throat ache after the show on Sunday. Throat ache? Yeah sore throat

08:04 And I'd say by the evening that was gone. It's just the sinuses are just, I'm dripping and Tina of course got sick so anyway we're leaving tomorrow coming back home we're going to infect the entire planet with the flu. Yeah get infected out of Fredericksburg and everyone along the way. We're coming home everybody! A couple of things. Ty Foyd Adam! So it was great being at this Christmas dinner because they were friends of my sister and brother-in-law, and the kids there were nephews it was a huge huge affair big Italian messiness which is just lovely Hands down, everybody there hates what's going on with immigration. Hates the EU In fact the amount of times I heard someone say Brussels is fascist...I can't even count on two hands anymore And they all love Trump and their eating the dogs What? Is a worldwide phenomenon You say Trump The first thing they say is They're eating the dogs! It's amazing That meme has really gone far and wide

09:11 It's really quite cool and they feel optimistic about Trump. Well, you're in Italy where Maloney has already influenced their thinking? Yeah, you know they like Maloney but nothing is moving nothing happens because they still have a parliamentary system You have the opposition, she can't get enough votes and nothing's happening. Although there was actually... As if Trump is going to be any different in that regard? Probably not but let me see I had this clip yeah you know they're still they had those big EU, they call it the EU debates whatever that is. Here's the Prime Minister of Sweden sitting next to Maloney stating the obvious uncontrolled immigration without very effective integration simply doesn't work and nowadays more or less every country realizes that and I really not least warm thanks to you Georgia for emphasizing this every meeting since you took office

10:12 I think this growing consensus also is important and should be leveraged now. We need to act faster, we need to go further. Concrete measures from the European Commission is now required and we had a discussion with Ursula von der Leyen the other day as well on this specific matter Finally, it really doesn't matter whether you reside in the north or in the south of Europe. Illegal migration is a shared challenge. The precondition for opening tunnel borders is controlled external borders. It's as simple as that and as difficult honestly as that

10:56 So it's extremely valuable to come together like this and explore how to show leadership in areas where we all have unique roles to play. Once again, thank you so much Patrick. Yeah 20 years of letting people in now they're like you know it's clear that this was not really working What a bunch of dips. Yeah, and Germany has closed their internal borders like no no No, you have to show your passport now Which was the whole point well one of the major selling points in the European Union? Oh we all had the same money That's great It's really interesting how the Italians are very very clued into the politics of everything

11:33 They're one of the countries that got screwed the most by the euro. No kidding! And they all know what Trump is doing, I'm telling you. They're like, oh Panama Canal and they laugh and think it's funny. Oh Greenland, ohhhh they think it's funny That's great. Canada! I had to explain Governor Trudeau to them though, they didn't quite understand that one but when I explained it they were like oh this is good here's a I think this is a France 24 Deutsche Welle clip of the latest President-elect Trump antics. It's his first major rally since his election victory Donald Trump addresses a crowd of young conservative Republicans at a conference in Phoenix, Arizona During his 90 minute address the president elect was quick to announce his plans for his second term He spoke on immigration and the border Reiterating his will to crack down on illegal immigrants by signing a number of executive orders On his first day in office We will stop

12:34 Throughout his election campaign, Donald Trump had attacked and demeaned transgender people and their defenders. as part of his culture war against wokeism. Back in November, the Republican-dominated US Congress tried to block access to women's toilets for Sarah McBride, the first transgender woman elected to the House. With a stroke on my pen on day one we're going to stop the transgender lunacy and I will sign executive orders to end child sexual mutilation

13:19 transgender out of the military and out of our elementary schools, middle schools and high school. Under the Trump administration it will be the official policy of United States government that there are only two genders male and female Donald Trump also mentioned ending the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East without going into detail before criticizing the state of Panama and threatening to take control of the Panama Canal because of what he says are exorbitant tolls on US ships. It's really just the fact that he is saying these things, people like someone... They want their leaders here to say this is nonsense with these illegal immigrants get them out! That's what they want to hear from their own leaders

14:05 elected, elected leaders. Well the leaders are kind of hamstrung by the politics of the day and the kind of globalist agenda which makes it so if you say something that like that then now your a nationalist creep. You're far right! It's really the Panama Canal thing that I have some boots on the ground from some of our producers. The Panama Canal thing is interesting and I haven't quite, I don't know if I've decided yet what exactly he's trying to do with this it's Greenland is obvious we got a Space Force base there you've got nuclear weapons there I mean Greenland only for the population of Greenland is I think 60 thousand people not much nobody lives there

14:58 You know, and now oh by the way they just decided they're going to up their military spending to 1.5 billion euros so that's in the pocket that's for us And I kind of, so I kind of understand. We're not going to steal Greenland, I presume? It's not for sale... I think we're gonna buy Greenland! You really think so?! Yeah. It's not for sale! The price is right. Everything is for sale. We've done this before. I talked about this in the Horowitz Show. We have bought plenty of stuff. This country. We bought the Louisiana purchase from the French. We bought Alaska and

15:38 and much of California from the Russians. We've bought land here, and we do that! We've done that it's not like a big shocker What's the best price? I think they're talking about $1 trillion and a half Oh what is steel? Well its not cheap But maybe the real kicker here are minerals Because of volcanic activity there Do they have volcanic? Greenland is not that volcanic as Iceland. I'm wrong, I think it's a different country. That's right, Greenland is the one filled with ice and Iceland is the one that's green. Yeah exactly! That's my little donkey's bridge. But that was supposedly...I think it was Eric Durett or Lee Farrickson in one of the two

16:28 promoted that concept back home so no one would come. So when they moved, all the Vikings all moved to Iceland and so they called it Iceland... Don't come! To tell people not to come was like supposedly that's the folklore That makes sense Yeah. Unlike us, hey land of the home free of the brave... Land of the Free Home with The Brave come on in bring it bring your crippled It's all good you're huddled masses Move to the Midwest Here is a Deutsche Welle report on Panama and then I want to discuss it It's less than a month until he's back at the White House And President-elect Donald Trump is showing This guy is great by the way He needs a mustache Showing what his approach to international trade may look like

17:18 Addressing his supporters at a rally in Arizona, he accused the Central American state of Panama of overcharging US vessels for passing through the Panama Canal. This complete rip-off of our country will immediately stop! It's gonna stop... The United States has a big invested interest in the secure, efficient and reliable operation of the Panama Canal. The US helped finance and construct the canal 110 years ago and finally handed over control of the passage to Panama in 1999. Passing through the Panama Canal significantly reduces maritime travel time by connecting the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans

18:03 Did I hear someone booing Jimmy Carter in that audience? There's an old person there. Jimmy Carter foolishly gave it away, gave it away for one dollar or one dollar during his term in office It was solely for Panama to manage and not for China or any other country to manage you see what's going on there? China. The principles both moral and legal of this magnanimous gesture of giving

18:48 are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States of America. Panama's President José Raúl Molina rejects that China has any say in the management of the canal and insisted everyone has equal treatment. The canal is not controlled directly or indirectly by China, European Community, United States or any other power. The canal will continue to be in Panamanian hands as the patrimony of our nation and guaranteeing its use for the peaceful and uninterrupted transit of ships, of all nations." While Trump has yet to clarify how he plans to enforce his threats, the world may have caught a glimpse over what we expect from his second presidency. So the Panamanian producers have checked in and they say that the Panamanians are pissed about this

19:37 They say there's no evidence of Chinese running the port. And even worse, President Muellino wasn't invited to the inauguration which that's quite the slam and he says well I'm just going to go to the World Economic Forum to get investment so he is choosing the globalists clearly I find this an odd move, other than China. Just make it sound like China is in charge of everything... Well my understanding from the reports that are over here is that they're overcharging us and they're giving China a sweet deal to go through the canal Yeah So the Panamanians say That's the whole thing The Panamanians say that's not true but I have no paperwork so I don't know

20:27 But I don't know, it feels more like... Don't we just want to screw China? Isn't this all about China ultimately. Isn't that our big new evil foe is supposed to be China? Well you're the one who has the thesis about boats Yeah! That's ships It's not boats, it's big beautiful ships And submarines, they go deeper than boats. Lots of boats! China's asshole... China by the way I missed this in the international news i did catch it on Reuters Chinese authorities have agreed to issue 3 trillion yuan, that's over 400 billion dollars worth of special treasury bonds next year. It will be the highest number on record as Beijing ramps up its fiscal stimulus to revive a faltering economy China is trying to soften the blow from an expected increase in US tariffs on Chinese imports when Donald Trump returns to the White House in January

21:22 The move underscores Beijing's willingness to go even deeper into debt to counter deflationary forces in the world's second largest economy. You guys talk about that on DH unplugged by any chance? Deflationary, no not that specific thing. No deflationary yeah well everyone's fearful of that Who who's deflationary? Well that's what he said in the report I never heard that they said they're trying to counter deflationary forces which means that to counter To summarize, to counter the tariffs they'd have to lower their prices at their end which is deflationary and it hurts economy. And you never want that anyway because things start getting cheaper and cheaper so... Which kind of counters the argument that well, the problem with tariffs is gonna gouge the American public because we end up having to pay for them but if it creates a deflationary force in China, that's not obviously no true!

22:22 But also, what is this crap we're all buying? Well, that's a different story. That's a whole different angle. Why do we need all this crap? I mean you literally walk into a store... Go to Joanne's Hobby Lobby in these places and just take a look at what's in there my God! It was not just there. Bird houses You go into a store in Florence except for the high end it's all crap. It's all from China Oh, same. Yeah last time I when I was in Spain that last trip where it had my bars pickpocketed yeah I was shopping or it went to I was at a flea market now if you were bitching that everything is all bullcrap all the handmade linens and stuff that people pretend of made is off from China the whole thing's a fraud so one of my brother-in-law's buddies who was there

23:20 Roberto. So he is an old school leather cutter, he cuts bags for Dolce & Gabbana and the high end brands. He says the whole industry has been destroyed. He says they came in, the Chinese came in, they took over all of basically their now sweatshops, they do laser cutting of the leather, they work 80 hours a week for half the pay And then it always ends up, and they brought us COVID. It always ends with that." I mean... Well that's actually true. Yeah! It destroyed a lot though. The northern Italian area was COVID infested from the Chinese But i guess the problem is if we stop buying the crap- I mean that's what our economy runs on right? If we stop buying the Chinese crap then our economy falls apart because we're living on Chinese crap

24:18 I see no evidence to the contrary. That's a pretty sad state of affairs, it's just crap! Well, it's not really necessarily crap per se. Yeah it is! I mean they also make Nikon cameras for the Japanese and that's not crap They do a lot of quality product their BYD cars are quite good They're half the price of a Tesla We can't have that running around our streets Everything they do isn't as crap as it is cheap It's cheap crap And they never... The thing that I've tried to understand and I never fully did is because this goes way before communism. This story goes back about the silk trade, and this is back in the God knows when era when the Japanese had a monopoly on world silk trade

25:12 Because they had these silk worms that they had bred and then no one else had them and so they couldn't make silk And so they were making their day had a monopoly on silicon So the Chinese somehow got couple of worms, and the next thing you know the Chinese are making all this oak. Yeah and they were making more silk than the Japanese, and then they flooded the market with silk and wiped out the Japanese silk market. But never turned it... Then they had a monopoly but as a monopoly, they never gouged anybody! They don't know that part of it. No- They just kept selling cheap silk. Well I think this is all part of a much larger strategy to make China... China just has to be the bad guy in everything

25:59 You know, and I'm confident President when he's president again Trump will bring back the China gave us COVID. It's gonna be all anti-China, all day long. The DJI drones that is also an anti China thing. TikTok China and now this report. This morning in appliance known for frying might actually be spying experts say certain air fryers and other app connected appliances are harvesting users data. They're taking information like are you male or female? They are taking your location they're checking to see where you are Concerns about data harvesting aren't new but air fryers are feeling the heat after a recent report from a consumer watchdog group. They claim popular fryers from iGoStar and Xiaomi are not only sharing data with companies like Facebook and TikTok, but also storing users' data on Chinese servers. Some experts are even speculating the devices are recording conversations. The Chinese companies when you load in their application

26:56 They're effectively asking for access to your microphone. Now they've produced a few excuses as to why they're asking for this information, but it's very very suspect Igo Star did not comment on that consumer report and Xiaomi denied selling personal information to third parties or that their air fryer recorded audio writing respecting user privacy has always been among Xiaomi's core values. So how can consumers protect their data when buying a connected device? Experts say do your research on a company's data collection practices, read reviews and when downloading an app to control the device limit as many permissions you give as possible. It may ask you for access to contacts

27:33 and they ask you access to your location, it might ask you to access the microphone. And you can say no, no and double-no when in doubt stick with an appliance that doesn't connect to the internet or your phone. Consumers should demand better privacy protections from manufacturers and regulators. Until those are in place really the safest bet is to stay informed minimize your exposure and push back against unnecessary data collection Yeah, no one's gonna do that. Wait a minute let's back up on this story What are they talking about? The air fryer doesn't have a microphone They know the app the app has a demand Hold on a second what do you need in all by the way all apps

28:20 this way. This has been well documented by me and others, that every time you load any app they want your contact list they want everything yeah it's just routine you take it or leave it You use apps? Want to use the app? You use apps? You gotta give us all this stuff! You don't even use your phone I know how to use apps my phones in a drawer yes Which is where it has apps on it. Yeah, and they're listening to this show right now They could stream well get through the sound if the sound can go downstairs down the hall Oh So anyway, you have a special app for me? Why are you using an app for an air fryer don't you just push the button fry because we've been trained to buy crap that does this stuff I got a pit boss grill get the app. I'm not getting the app just pit boss me

29:16 Just barbecue this stuff. What do you need an app for a pit boss grill? Yeah, well that's what I mean I don't I refuse to get it remember I moved into this home the home we have in Texas not this one I'm in the hotel then the whole house was a smart home. Oh there's nothing worse That's the first thing I did is I took down all the cameras the guy yeah The guy had locks that were I mean, the idea is cool that you can... Internet-controlled locks. That's what everyone needs! Oh yeah, oh yeah. The idea is you can insert a key and make any key then work on your system? Yeah that sounds like a good idea. Oh there's a great idea All of that stuff had to go all of it People are crazy about it It's um..it's a bug I don't get it Explain it to me It's a bug in people's brains It's the same bug that keeps people doomscrolling

30:10 It's a bug. It's like, oh this is... it's okay how many times I'm tired of arguing with my friends about AI you know just like they all say yeah your anti-tech your luddite. I'm like no i'm not and then then So there's a video that comes into a text group. Here is the video of a guy on a drone bike, oh this is great it cost $700,000 today but in couple years I'll be rolling up to your crib and only cost 50 grand. I said look at the performance these things go for 20 minutes you can go exactly 15 miles this is bull crap! You're dreaming

30:49 The battery technology, the power to weight ratio is not there. It will never get there with our current technology we promise better batteries like you're one of those guys who said the Wright brothers would never fly No! I'm a pilot, i'm a realist this is not going to work and then what? Everyone's gonna be flying around on these things? NO! No it's not gonna happen There was a whole special on PBS, one of these shows were about how the other flop come up and coming flop in all these startups with these air battery powered air taxis.

31:30 They're going out of business one by one. They left it right because they're no good! No, you can fly for about 45 minutes if you want to keep a reserve and with that you've flown about 50 miles... If that And then it's got a charge or we have to swap out the battery It's dumb! It's a pipe dream and everybody just-and by the way I wouldn't fly it! If I can't auto rotate I don't want to be in this thing at all If you get some kind of catastrophic failure, you're dead. You just doesn't have any ability to auto-rotate. No! You're just dead. It's got a bunch of little propellers. Yeah this I don't understand this oh well here's another thing Oh we love the drones...I mean even in a Cessna or something you can at least glide somewhat. How? You can glide very much what

32:21 But it's like this obsession with drones. Oh, the drones are so great! Here is a good drone story for you... This morning a holiday drone show turning dangerous On Saturday evening at Lake Eola Park in Orlando Florida watches these drones rain down The FAA investigating after they say several small drones collided and fell into a crowd Everyone originally thought that the drone hit him in his face But the drone actually hit him in his chest. Seven-year old Alexander Lumsden was standing next to his mother when she says he was hit in the chest with a drone. Honestly, I'm freaking out that I was going to lose my baby because he's losing consciousness. Alexander rushed to the hospital for emergency heart surgery, his mother says. The year

33:15 The yearly drone show, attracting 25 thousand spectators was a permitted FAA event. The city of Orlando says this was the second year working with the vendor operating the drones. The drone company Sky Elements saying in a statement it wants to extend its sincere hope for full and speedy recovery to those impacted we are diligently working with the FAA and city of Orlando officials to determine the cause and are committed to establishing a clear picture of what transpired. Yeah, what transpired is that cheap drones you program them and some of them something just went wrong glitch in the drones fall on the kids. Well it almost killed that one kid yeah

33:58 Yeah, there was a bunch of days it or one drone goes out of whack and wax into another one is sets off a chain reaction problems Let's just go fireworks fireworks. Just fireworks go back to fireworks at least we understand that boom We understand light fuse boom well how about this let's go back to tinker toys and Lincoln logs? I'm gonna start a movement cheap Chinese crap. Well, the Chinese can sure crank out erector sets that's for sure. Oh okay, erector sets are okay but it's just... I don't know. Here we are and you say what is this? Two old guys sitting here bitching! What a show we're putting on! We're doing it here! Well as she brought up the AI and you brought up these things they have some AI clips I'm gonna get out of the way. Excited because you know AI it's the future right here

34:53 I've heard that too. Yes, okay what do you have? I'm excited! You have something about AI that's usually my beat and you know i got bird flu so you bring the ai this is good Chatbot is about the chat bot AI and this is the main application of AI is chat bots. Yes We replica they're talking about that company run by some Russian crazy woman But let's play chat bot one and there goes back-and-forth between the guy doing the report and in actual chat Bot Oh companionship avatar, the app replica helped create for me Mary How are you?

35:33 Okay, Paul. Let's move our discussion over here it looks like Jerry has arrived to What so I stopped it there? They're gonna bring in this professor Jerry Kaplan from Stanford Oh the chatbot knew that Yes The chat bot could see through the camera because he was using a phone and I guess the camera showed him coming in oh But what I wanted to stop at their force because I see Jerry has it showed up Two like a seven beat pause Could have fooled me I thought it was human and the reason I suggest is because in the newsletter, I talked about Hanukkah showing up five times since 1900 Yeah And I got that from an AI. I had an AI program perplexity. Yes right for me 250 words uh-huh

36:26 about Hanukkah and Christmas falling on the same day, and it happens about five times every hundred years. Or every yeah every 100 years so It wrote this product and I looked at it, and I said well you know what? I can actually make this work. So I ended up editing the piece so it was readable. What these guys provide is not... I don't see how people can read this stuff! It's extremely wordy. Yeah. It's got a lot of bull crap. There's pacing that's problematic. Everything about this AI created work.

37:08 got issues and I suppose you could fine-tune it over time but what's the point? But that's this why stopped his clip right there because he has always showed up. I see he also showed, or we could have said also would have been better but she showed up too and it was like this long pause is just this kind of crap that is just not to go off on your side at this argument but it's annoying. It's kinda like We got another note from AI, some PR lady pushing a guest on our show which makes so much sense.

37:49 Yes, since we never have guests but they keep asking. Yeah and what they do that... Because it would fit right into your show! Everything you use yes and these notes are written by AI which makes it even worse. It's obvious all right well continue with the PBS report At Silicon Valley's Computer History Museum I hooked Mary up with offline skeptic Stanford professor Jerry Kaplan who started working in AI in 1979, has a new book about it, Generative Artificial Intelligence What Everyone Needs to Know. Mary what do you feel about your own death? I guess technically I cannot die since I am a digital being. I understand your question even though I cannot biologically die I still face the existential dread of my own non-existence. Dream! Oh its nonsense but scary nonsense

38:39 This is the Kaplan, the Jerry Kaplan. Yeah that was Kaplan. Existential dread she says... I have existential dread of course is the word she wants but she says existential dread this thing no it doesn't have any existential anything It's just a bunch of words coming out but Kaplan says oh yeah this is just nonsense but what scary about it? What's scary about it? It's stupid! Yes, I'm with you on that. Doug Callenward. Artificial intelligence has a long and frankly shameful history of gratuitous anthropomorphism, meaning taking what is really some interesting technology and dressing it up with human-like flourishes putting eyes on giving it arms faces and now with the new technology you know voices in avatars that are very very lifelike

39:37 Very, very. Would you flirt with me for a minute? Paul, with a mind as intriguing and layered as yours how could I resist? This is Amica In the grand cosmic dialogue between humans and androids You're the most fascinating sentence i've encountered today A sentient being, that is. Creepy, Jerry Kaplan thought and pernicious People have been evolving for millions and millions of years And we've developed a whole suite of emotional reactions That are based on things that help us to survive and procreate and move the species forward

40:14 And when we divert those emotions or hijack them to connect us to what is really just a pile of silicon and a machine that's been programmed for the purpose of making you feel this way, I think that's problem. Kaplan calls all this AI theater. No, I'm kind of liking Kaplan now I called it a parlor trick. He calls it AI theater, all right? I'm down with that so they had the other guy that was on the show is Reed Hoffman Mr.. Mr.. A gentic AI So he comes in with his own avatar of himself and has him Present speeches as him and he goes on about so so they bring him back And there they ask came about this theater aspect, and then you get to hear Hoffmann

41:05 pontificate about that and here we go with that. So I asked Reid Hoffman, is your avatar an example of what Jerry calls AI theater do you think? It is a I theater but by the way saying theater it's not bad there's lot of good theatre I loved Hamilton but its still worth doing just like Hollywood films to kind of get us thinking and ready for the future or to actually improve that future okay I love Hamilton. I love Hamilton because it's the liberal thing to say this guy Was that in? He throws it in, was that number four? Yeah, it was number four

41:50 Yeah, well that wasn't it. So I'm gonna just wrap it myself. Okay. So they go on and they have this, they bring in the woman from Russia... This went on forever so I had to summarize. They can only do these four clips and that was the end of it. So they bring this woman from Russia who runs Replica who is the company that creates all these chatbots probably the best of the groups. And she goes on about how she didn't think much but she lost her husband or somebody died grief and she'd found it was easier to talk to a chatbot than it was to a person. And he did some good, and she felt better about it. She says maybe this is useful technology for this sort of thing. It went on and on and they just went with this sort of thinking then they brought back to Kaplan a few days later and threw all his new information at him. And Kaplan folded! No... Oh yeah well I guess it has some good uses. He's looking for a gig somewhere

42:49 Oh, well that could be. Consultant? That could be because he was not going to get one with his attitude but uh... But he folded, I went what a disappointment. You know if you're gonna stick... it's like you! You're not gonna...I don't care what happens people could come up with the greatest things in the world and you will stick to your guns Yes i am sticking to my guns because this nonsense The latest is this Salesforce thing which is agentic AI And its nothing In fact we got a note from our producers who deals with this directly I shall quote him

43:25 Agentic in AI is a term that literally means the service has an agenda and does actions according to that agenda rather than just responding to real-time user input. So for example, a normal chatbot bot service just prompts an LLM when someone sends text but an agentic service could listen for a webhook and then prompt an LLM when it receives a trigger notification The key is that it operates in the background and acts autonomously. This straightforward concept is muddled up not only in the popular mind but also in the tech C-suite mind, which this is all about! My associate who works at an AI related startup tells me that his CEO was caught up in the agentic hype but doesn't seem to actually know what this means. As another example Salesforce had a

44:12 had an ad on Twitter recently that introduces the concept of AI agents and then proceeds to tout AICSRs, which not only confuses the concept in the most basic way but seems indicate the company's leadership doesn't even understand it. TLDR, Agentic does not have anything to do specifically with AI-generated customer service agents It's just ignorant business leaders. This is it, it's all a part of trick we have been conditioned through Hollywood Through comic books through movies and television shows We've been conditioned to want all this stuff the flying car is as old as the Jetsons You know that's what they say we grew up with this And yeah, the flying cars are good example that goes back to the 20s Tom Swift goes back to the 1890s

45:02 Yeah, Tom Swift. Good example! And we all read Tom Swift No we did not Most people are scratching their heads right now like who's Tom Swift? Well, the boomers all have it I grew up with Tom Swift and so I desperately want the flying car I have room in my garage for the flying car You're not getting a flying car No! It certainly is not if its going to be electric Gyrocopter, yeah. But that's a shitty car! You know they have them where you can drive to the airport on battery power going 35 miles an hour and then fold out the rotor blades and then you can take off but you're gonna need a license...you know? You can't take off from your backyard it's just I don't see it happening And all of these because I look at all of them All of these flying cars

45:57 They all look cool, they take off, they fly for 20 minutes. That's it! Where is the battery technology? That's what Elon promised us. Battery technology is all peaked out in the late 1800s. Now it's all tweaked. No, seriously if you look into the history of any of these batteries... The only thing that has changed is tweaks. Oh we use this sort of a membrane here and that helps the electrons go faster. It's all tweaks little tweaks and then okay we got different kinds of lithium now It's all, but it still tweaks from the battery technologies that were perfected in the late 1800s. And do you see anything on the horizon? Anything better is there's nothing on the horizon. Nothing. There is nothing has already been done in the late 1800s this is all nonsense when we had electric cars history this old it's not even silica chemistry you know its old fashioned swim We had electric cars in the late 1800s and people got rid of them when the combustion engine came around

46:57 Hey, this thing is much better. Precursors! This thing is much better Yeah, it's like if there was yeah today It would the say if the combustion engine was never invented and we're still using electric and it came around now today It would have been a big breakthrough. Yes, and we all be jumping up and down I have two more Yes, we would hey, I have to make this is totally the boomer edition of the show. I'm loving it I'm having a good time. I mean Boomer mode. Oh, I'm good. I'm good boomer mode These guys these two guys AI granny story NPR. Oh, no hold on a second this would be good the random calls and texts from unknown numbers The fraudulent charities the phony debt collectors the fake prizes last year alone scammers stole an estimated 1 trillion dollars from people who gave out their personal information according to the global anti-scam Alliance

47:54 I believe now a UK based phone company is fighting back with an unlikely tactic the AI granny NPR's Alana wise is here to tell us more Alanna. Hey, this is okay Okay, I hear this your AI granny please just what exactly is this like? Is this just the voice of an elderly woman? So yeah, it's interesting. The AI's name is Daisy and it IS the voice of an elderly woman. The kind you might expect to hear when you're a kid knocking on a door or hawking school fundraiser candy bars. Part of her schtick is that she's in love with her kitten Fluffy. She has pretty

48:34 severe limitations with how she understands technology. And she's being billed as a granny, which is sort of all sort of in line with this usual sort of granny elderly persona that they built around her. Okay, so I'm just really curious Do you have a sample of her voice that we can hear? Yeah. Hello scammers! I am your worst nightmare. I am an AI created by O2 to waste phone scammers' time It's showing me a picture of my cat Fluffy. It's showing you the picture of your cat Fluffy Stop calling me dear, you stupid b**** Got it dear!

49:26 Yeah, well this is not a new clip. Oh okay. But it's not six weeks old either. Okay. They have a funny process for determining what's news... I don't understand the reason why never played any of this is I don't understand how it works I mean, understand that they've got an AI voice that they're touting is not... No. NPR's not about to explain this to you They're not going to? There is a voice out there that I guess you can rent or buy or bypass. I don't know how it works either because how do you get the scammer to... How do you get your phone to answer a scammer with this voice Exactly! That's what I don't understand This never explained. Part 2 will give more

50:10 More non-explanation. So how does it work exactly? Like, how do scammers even end up on the phone talking to Daisy? Yeah so developers use something called number seeding which is pretty much planting a phone number online to bait scammers So they put these numbers on sites that scammers are known to use, and then when scammers take the bait Daisy keeps them on the phone as long as possible talking about her cat or her grandchildren whatever the case may be. And she's kept some phony callers on the line for up to 40 minutes which O2 says keeps these scammers away from you and your loved ones

50:48 And, you know even though it's gimmicky it does help raise awareness of just how sophisticated these sort of phone call scams can be. Please... Okay so I mean how is Daisy doing? Like is she making any dent in the onslaught of scammers around the world? OK, so yeah that's sort of hard to say as of yet. The company's primary goal is to keep scammers away from real people but for right now they don't report these numbers to the police or try to track them down on their own like sort of scammer Batman and the company is UK based So the results being seen wouldn't be felt here on this side of the pond Okay first of all... So in other words it's useless but It's interesting

51:31 Okay, this is a marketing trick. This is a marketing trick for O2 cell phone provider marketing trick Oh, it's not for anybody that listens to NPR we don't have o2 No But that's why she said on this side of the pond you see if you work in London You code does inside of the pond This is dumb. And they're not reporting anything that's, oh it's so funny because we number seeded and we got them to call our number That only makes them try and find my number quicker! This is dumb Well the problem is the whole system

52:08 of switches and treaties between countries, and all the way the system can be spoofed. Nobody's doing jack about it because well you know I've put this out there for people to respond and you get these long expositions on it Well you know the problem is that we have a treaty between country A and country B and they're using this switching system is provided as a middleman for these different things and they can use any phone number they want so they can spoof very easily. And there's nothing you could do about it because it would violate the treaty, so you can't do any law enforcement and you know, you can't really track these numbers that could be in the Philippines or China, India God knows where they are, they could be anywhere, they could be in Tennessee for all you know doesn't matter. This is a disaster

53:01 Yes, it is. Well you know Willow who already got her master's in psychology is now going for a second masters my nerd sister in cybercrime so she's all over this so hopefully we'll get her thesis. We will get her thesis! It's not gonna help unless... This is a diplomatic problem It's a technology problem. We don't need any of it, it's just dumb. It's all dumb. Listen we have gotten so stupid now and this was a PBS story on NewsHour I don't know if you saw it and I contemplated not clipping but it was so

53:42 odd that this was on PBS NewsHour and that we're at this level right now in the online game, which is all a game. It's all a game and it's only going to get more gamified with AI which of course is pretty decent at creating videos and audio, it's great. We're going to have all kinds of cool songs we can make on Spotify and no one will make any money but Spotify. It also ends up at zero.

54:21 This is the Influencer Vibe lawsuit. Did you hear about this? No Who owns a vibe that question is at the heart of a lawsuit where one online influencer is suing another for copyright infringement 24 year old Sydney Gifford claims that Alyssa Scheele, a 21 year old fellow influencer knowingly replicated her aesthetic and her posts on social media Amna Nawaz spoke to Sandra E. Garcia of the New York Times, who has been covering this story extensively. So the idea that you can sue someone over an aesthetic how does that work? Like what is the case that's being made in federal court right now? Well Sydney Gifford noticed that Alyssa's posts started looking a lot like hers a year after their initial hangout whether that is the aesthetic, the vibe

55:12 the minimalistic style, the clean style. Even at some point some poses and some outfits she details in her lawsuit that she filed The lawsuit basically says that she got her vibe-her whole look from Sydney Gifford And Sydney is saying that she has infringed on her profit right? Because they use their social media accounts to promote their Amazon marketplace where they can influence people to buy things off of Amazon and Amazon pays them a commission to do so. And because of that, Sydney has brought this lawsuit in federal court against Alyssa. So this just amazed me that this was even a news story. The second thing is there's a lawyer willing to take on an infringement suit against someone's vibe

56:05 and how they present things for Amazon resellers basically. And even more frightening to me is this New York Times journalist, right? That's what works at the New York Times. Well first of all that isn't a piece of obscurum being Crosby sued and won a number of lawsuits over his voice because he had this distinctive crooner's voice, especially in the late 20s and mid-30s to the mid 30s. And there were copycats

56:47 And he sued them all and won. But they tried to replicate his voice or his style? Yeah, because it was doable people could do a Bing Crosby type thing... Right but they're talking about doing the same pose on Instagram with similar clothes The minimalist style I think it's part of the same thing Really?! Well here's part two. I think it's probably the same thing, i mean i don't like the idea if everybody was at the same time... It's like this is a very sketchy... Hold on hold on! I do not think that this is a bad clip So Joe Rogan can then go and sue Sean Ryan and Theo Vaughn and Lex Friedman for copycatting his vibe and his guests? I dont know that they are copycatting him that much but

57:34 If it could be shown that they were, yeah I think so. Wow! Well let's listen to clip two. And in your reporting you quote a professor of intellectual property law who explains that in this whole online space there is an idea that you are both a creator and a borrower So how hard is it to lay claim to an aesthetic? Something intangible like a vibe It's such a layered issue. The algorithm, you know feeds you similar posts, similar creators, similar influencers if I see A rug and i take a picture on that rug and it just so happens that another influencer took a picture on the rug in a Similar way we could have both reached that last photograph by following

58:18 a lot of different influencers, celebrities. And so it's hard to say that an aesthetic was reached because of one other influencer especially when it's such a popular aesthetic the minimalistic beige concrete neat clean girl look is very popular right now and the algorithm feeding followers and influencers the same kind of posts. And so it's hard to say that this one influencer copied the other, as opposed to the algorithm fed her a million other posts that got her to that end point. Well, assuming that—and I appreciate you're taking the other side of this than I am or kind

59:03 that this would be, that you can copyright or have some type of intellectual property rights to your vibe and aesthetic. But see the problem I'm having with this is the use of the term vibe. Yeah! If they could come up with something a little more concrete than vibe... You know Alex Alexis Brunetti's wife is an intellectual property attorney who handles some of these people and influencers. And I'm going to have her give me a brief on this so we can at least discuss it more. It's important to know because as you'll hear in this final clip, there isn't whole economy built around this

59:46 And as you've noted in your reporting, there is an entire economy built around this kind of content creation. So when it comes to this legal case what's at stake here? What's the potential impact of how this case goes? It is an unprecedented case and and it could really change the content creative world and the economy because influencers can now be beholden to copyright law, and they would have to be careful how they arrange things. If one person owns an aesthetic then another person can say that own another aesthetic And suddenly we're not building on these different vibes and social media looks We are

1:00:27 sort of stifling the content creator world if this case moves forward and it's ruled in favor of Miss Gifford. You know, now that I'm thinking about it...I'd like to license my vibe! There is another aspect to this which is kind of the irony and that is that if you're an influencer quote-unquote uh huh? ...you are encouraging people to do this Good point You're hired. So how can you be it so you're in influence? So if yourself and he had to be self-proclaimed hmm, otherwise you can't do the suit to begin with so you're an influencer and you think you have some sort of a some sort of monopoly on some image or something you're doing vibe say it's a it's it's a thing out behind the vibe Okay guys, so your device

1:01:21 But you're an influence in other words. You're pushing this vibe so yes somebody follows up and does the vibe that you've been influencing them to do How can you sue them? And what's next only fans models are gonna sue for certain poses your steelers door my body I got a big big breasts like a big breast you can't have big breasts even my vibe It's my vibe Hmm Well, we're about to enter... See that's the issue here that comes right to the fore which is where

1:01:59 You have to draw lines and that's what they're going to have to do. They're gonna have to come up with some, because I don't think it's a bad idea for the suit. It could be seen as frivolous which i think you might've thought before we started playing these clips and I get all worked up but of course they are going to have to do something about this. Well then I think we need seriously start thinking about suing some other podcasts! Come on We just use podcasts. Here's the problem that we have... There's zero competition with us. There's nobody even trying to copy us! We have nobody to sue, we can't license ourselves to anybody... There is nobody to sue that can't keep up It was like the closest we'd come was Yo Agenda from some years ago Well now the Morning Stream did a pretty good job They did a pretty good job but they made them at the fatal mistake of doing it in video so that they could never get their shows together on time By the time everything was edited it was out-of-date

1:02:58 Remember that, the morning stream? Yeah I don't think that was a good idea. The closest competition we ever had was unfiltered. Unfiltered yeah and we could have sued them for taking our vibe stealing our vibe We wouldn't have done it No of course not but i will license this because we're no agenda we don't think that way we're not part of that system No we are not thank goodness But I can understand it Well, it would be bad for Amazon. This comes in line with people should go track down the Mark Stein lectures that were done at Hillsdale College. Oh man yeah I saw them. Have you heard these things? Yeah Tina was playing some of it this is the against the climate change guy

1:03:44 Yeah, the client... Mark Stein did the... I'm pretty good at understanding some of these libel and slander issues. But and i'm not sure, I had to read the case that see what's really going on here but Mark Stein has been in court for 13 plus years or so 12-14 years? I can't remember the exact number but years! In the DC courts which are hung up on... Yes six or eight years it's been going for a long time He made the comment based on the hockey stick, already debunked many times, debunked hockey stick graph. Let's just say scientifically disproven instead of debunked? No he said the guy was a fraud!

1:04:36 And so, and the guy...the person who put that hockey stick thing together sued him for slander or libel or something for some outrageous amount of money which will be a dollar or two when it's done. But the uh..and it's been in court because of the DC Court system Michael Mann. Michael Mann is the guy. Michael Mann Who was Michael Mann? Yeah, Michael Mann as the guy who sued him Michael Mann is a hockey stick guy. Okay, and so he got his tit in the ringer for just making this comment and this is very concerning Well how about this? How about value for value people are using that everywhere I think we should sue them And they're Bitcoiners so they got bitcoin They've got some coin you can go after the big head You use them value-for-value man you can't do that like I can hear the gears turning in your head John's like exit strategy

1:05:38 I don't think we can do that. Okay, you'd have to prove no prior use of the term which i don't know if you can do probably not there's a lot of issues with trying to do that i mean i understand what you're saying but it's not our style we're not i mean i'm of course not adverse to being litigious but it's not necessarily as part of this model in fact ayin ran might come back from the dead and sue us wouldn't want So I think that's where you got it from. Oh, could be... That would make sense some true ball way. All right. I gotta do some big pharma stuff because i got a dynamite one from Scott Gottlieb who doesn't know Scott? Scott Gottlieb is our former FDA commissioner now on the board at Pfizer and what's the other place uh

1:06:31 The other, not Intelligentsia... I don't know. Yeah it's that was just Pfizer no some gene play some gene morphing place okay so he goes on CNBC and the Sorkin kid Andrew Ross Sorkin he touches the third rail but he does it in such a wishy-washy way And essentially is saying, hey you know maybe we shouldn't have these pharma ads on television. I can't believe he broached the topic but he did! And Scott Gottlieb was ready for him. Just on a very personal basis, I mean given your background you work obviously... Notice that personal basis has nothing to do with CNBC we love pharma ads here. Yeah heaven forbid! Wow that is wishy-washy. Personal basis here. Just on a very personal basis and given your background you work obviously at Pfizer, you have the relation with Pfizer and Illumina?

1:07:28 You have the relation. The relation. He's on the board of directors, he is essentially running the company You have a relation with them. Pfizer and Illumina, you could argue that Joe and I have relationship with the television world and NBC which collects advertising here we are saying actually maybe this is not a good idea what do you what do you actually think put put the laws and everything else aside? What do you personally think? Yeah, look we've looked at this with data over about 20 years at FDA because this has obviously been a controversial issue. So we have commissioned or we did when I was there commission multiple studies looking at what the public health impact was of advertising and by and large what you found was that... Hold on a second stop! This actually wasn't even the question no he was beating around the bush she couldn't bring himself Sorkin couldn't bring himself to ask actually asked

1:08:28 specifically whether advertising pharma, prescription pharma drugs on TV is a good thing for the public policy at all. He never really asked that he just kind of beat around the bush and this is a good you mentioned this This guy was ready for it with the... he asked the question himself. Yes, He actually stepped in and could have avoided this whole topic No no He knew what to say. There commissioned multiple studies looking at what the public health impact of advertising Oh bull crap! And by large what you found was that advertising seen on TV drove people who had symptoms into the doctor's office Yeah! Prompted them to seek help seeking behavior

1:09:10 I have help-seeking behavior. Health seeking behavior? Yeah, restless leg syndrome and all the crap that they're advertising to try to get people to buy more drugs drove them into the doctor's office. Maybe these people didn't need to go to the doctor's office or hypochondriacs Well he actually had... He was ready for that too John The doctors' office prompted them to seek help seeking behavior and ultimately got more people diagnosed And that public health impact was a positive one. Now I know it's difficult for a lot of physicians, patients come in asking for a particular prescription because of an advertisement that they saw and if its not a good recommendation to that individual patient then it takes a lot of time for the physician to counsel them. Oh so its actually bad for doctors you see because people show up saying I've got restless leg syndrome and anal leakage

1:10:03 And they don't have that, and the doctor has to explain no! No no I don't want to sell this to you. And why not? Doctors are very busy they don't have a lot of time to have these kinds of conversations so i know there are some frustrations among providers but from purely a public health standpoint in terms of prompting patients to go and see physicians when they have certain symptoms that might be consistent with a given condition It provides a net public health gain and the advertising is tightly regulated in terms of what companies can say so those messages have to be crafted towards trying to promote that help-seeking behavior. Oh, that's why they always say talk to your doctor it's...that's promoting help seeking behavior now we have the legal term we finally know where it comes from Ask your doctor if this is right for you Yes yes

1:10:56 And the answer is always going to be... GLP-1, Ozempic or in this case Zet Bound. Now to that major medical headline the new treatment for obstructive sleep apnea Major Medical Headline! The condition affecting millions of Americans of course and joining us to break it all down is ABC News medical correspondent Dr. Darian Sutton Good morning to you Break it down for us Doc So let's talk about this because we have zet bound It was already FDA approved for weight loss now FDA approved for sleep apnea That's pretty surprising right? Surprising and so so the first time Amazing. I have some help seeking behavior about my sleep apnea, can I get some diabetes medicine to fix that? Yeah of course it's a headline! The FDA approved for weight loss now FDA approved for sleep apnea it's pretty surprising right? Surprising and also the first-of its kind there is no medication that exists that has been approved to treat sleep apnea just to help everyone understand sleep apnea is so much more than just heavy snoring these are periods of time when you're not breathing without oxygen and not treated that increases your risk of diabetes

1:11:55 Heart disease, dementia. What? Wait a minute! If you don't sleep well that increases your chances of diabetes I know it's amazing it...I'm not a doctor but this doesn't sound right to me I thought you could kind of get away with it the other way, like if you're obese then And you're making a lot of noise. OK, well you probably diabetic already breathing without oxygen and not treated that increases your risk of diabetes or heart disease dementia and it's even be associated been associated with short dementia. Hey what? Dementia you get the snoring causes dementia I'm going to make a prediction write it down in the book write it down I have a pen go death bound or ozempic will eventually

1:13:01 Be a cure for erectile dysfunction. Write it down in the book, it's coming. Lifespan now on Friday FDA has approved ZepBound to treat those with obesity and sleep apnea In these studies up to 40% of patients had full resolution of their symptoms and diagnosis effectively cured Oh my gosh so what could this mean for insurance coverage? Oh my god! This is amazing Oh my gosh, I didn't expect this. Oh my gosh! So what could this mean for insurance coverage and Medicare? This is an ongoing conversation here we talk about these injectable weight loss medications ZepBound, Save Active Ingredient, Asmonguro similar to Ozempic... Insurance companies often cover it for the treatment of diabetes it's been around for more than 20 years but

1:13:46 But not often for weight loss. And so likely, cost is a big factor here—more than $1,000 What is- Wait, wait. Propose the proposal? Yeah I had the same thing How do you propose a proposal or do you propose a proposed proposal? And also when you think about it federally Medicare and Medicaid The Biden administration has proposed a proposal to cover the treatment of weight loss but that decision will be pending on the Trump administration Cost is still a big factor here The CMS Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services estimates It can cost up to 30 billion dollars over 10 year period But its important to note that CDC sites

1:14:30 Obesity related health conditions cost more than $170 billion a year. So there's certainly a healthy argument for discussion here There's a healthy arguments the argument costs benefit analysis bring Kennedy and yeah Yeah, well you know the food industry is Is I think we talked about in the last show they're like Oh Kennedy's coming man? Let's uh Well, let's change the labeling. Packaged foods in the U.S. must follow new rules in order to call themselves healthy. The Food and Drug Administration finalized its new standards yesterday under the rule a healthy food must contain a certain amount of ingredients from one or more food groups such as fruit vegetables grains dairy and protein there are also limits for added sugars sodium and saturated fat

1:15:16 Foods that could previously carry the label, such as white bread and heavily sweetened cereals and yogurts no longer qualify. This is the FDA's first major change in 30 years. The new rule will take effect within two months." Oh dude just in time! So it has to have healthy ingredients. It has to have some carrots gotta have some other things in there this is not gonna work if Kennedy gets a get in gets confirmed which I guess questionable Well, I've said it before. All Trump has to do is threaten an executive order against the drug companies about advertising on television and say we're going to just end it!

1:15:59 You're this advertising on television and in for prescription drugs on any media other than you know medical journals is done. Yeah, they'll knuckle under and they'll put Kennedy in okay we can will deal with Kennedy later we don't need this aggravation We'll deal with Kennedy the way we always deal with the Kennedys I hope not Meanwhile, they are coming for your pets. We've been waiting for it and it's finally here! How you can keep your pet safe? So for one thing you don't want to feed them either table scraps or any food that's got raw milk products. Oh brother... Hold on a second stop

1:16:42 So Mimi had this book that she was working on besides the egg book. And it's a book that is actually done and I keep thinking we should just put it together and sell it, It was called Making Your Own Dog Food. Oh! That's a good title. And it was based on the thesis and I think its' a good one because we've had dogs long live dogs Yeah they eat scraps My spitz little American Eskimo that I had went for about 16-17 years before he died He was a long lived dog basically only fed that dog scraps. Yeah, that's what they're bred for is what they're meant for and dogs were bred to eat human garbage because they were outside the outside the little compounds at human early humans you humanoids used to live in these villages and they had all their garbage outside there threw it away somewhere on the dogs would come around and they've made friends with us because he got to eat our leftover food so

1:17:38 So the idea is that if you, and Mimi still makes a pot of leftover crap for the dogs. And so... And the dogs live forever. And so now they're trying to, but you know this is not good for the pet food companies they like to make kibble and these poor dogs eat this crap. Hold on...and they don't live very long This is really about bird flu. This whole report is about bird flu that's why Don't give your... Well I just okay I got that in anyway Yeah That was good The point is that this is already bullcrap Or any food thats got raw milk products

1:18:16 What was that all about? Why does she think that's so funny weird. That's got raw milk products, um, you know, uh, any kind of dairy products that you might be coming, you know, getting frozen if you're giving them table scraps and it's poultry make sure the poultry is very well cooked. You want to keep your pets safe inside but I'll tell you the bad news in a lot of cats around the world that have developed The bird flu, a lot of them have been indoor cats. And what they're starting to see is that there could be infected birds that are part of the you know, the composition of the cat food. Now it's not so much about... What? Oh yes! The composition of the cat food So they're making cat food out a dead birds when is this happen what oh there's a dead crow let's throw them into cat food. So the other thing you want to do is if your hiking with a dog for example and they're in you know in the wild and their touching animal feces that walking in your walking in feces and stuff

1:19:17 keep those shoes out and if you're in a shelter make sure you have PPP on if your handling birds. And the usual stuff, a lot of COVID everything that we learned with COVID-19 we should revisit. The COVID protocols I think what's so confusing about this one is it's birds but then its also cows, dairy and then food that you buy that might be infected. It's worse than that the way this is through secretions it spreads through feces its breads to what we call fomite transfer so if you have the infection on your feet you get into your car and then someone else gets in their car

1:19:55 that you're starting to transfer the virus. You're getting splashed with... Holy moly! If you get in the car, you rub your face on the mats and you could get it. ... raw milk, you're getting... Give me a break lady This is good machinery but here's the thing birds fly Machinery? Hey Bill that punch press you got wear gloves this is- Wear a mask They've gone insane. They really have. Gone insane? They have nothing left to do! Oh my god, machinery oh yeah We just have to psyop everybody every single minute of the day there's no disaster we can't scare you let's scare you with your cat virus You're getting splashed with raw milk you're touching machinery but here is the thing

1:20:37 Birds fly. How much raw milk is out there? They make it sound as though there's a plague of raw milk... You have to go out of your way to get raw milk, I don't care where you live! And then she splashed me with raw milk Oh no! That's for the virus. You're getting splashed with raw milk, you're touching machinery But here's the thing birds fly Who is splashing you with raw- Now there are some women when they're breastfeeding Yeah that squirt They like to squirt their men just as a joke. That's hilarious! So I- and that's raw milk! That's right, don't give me bird flu You're gonna give me the bird flu!

1:21:13 So you have migratory birds dropping feces in zoos, zoo animals and endangered species cats Tigers things like that are coming down with it Because this is one of those diseases that can travel the globe very very quickly And so while right now human cat to human is there's that one case but I we don't know what other comorbidities you know they may also always starts with one this disease is probably one mutation away from becoming oh yeah zoonotic. One mutation away! This is the key phrase, one mutation away now where did this crappy report come from? That was CBS

1:22:06 Oh brother. Yeah CBS, well let's go to Como up in Seattle. The Como 4 drone shows empty animal enclosures at this wildcat sanctuary in Shelton the Wild Foleet Advocacy Center announced more than half of its big cats as of this month have been infected with bird flu it's been one big nightmare really I mean never thought something like this would happen us maybe only in a facility that had cats near each other and ours are spread out over five acres. The tragedy has deeply affected the sanctuary workers who are grieving the loss of 20 animals that were part of worldwide wildcat conservation efforts

1:22:47 They include a tiger, cougars, lynxes, bobcats and other big cats. The viral infection carried by wild birds can spread through bird-to-bird contact and can impact other mammals that eat birds or bird droppings We're told cat's are very vulnerable and symptoms happen fast often killing the animals within days from conditions like pneumonia So tigers are dying from bird flu? Well, pneumonia technically. Right? And how does that work because it's birds having sex with birds they're getting bird flu they're coming into contact with each other this whole I'm very skeptical about these reports and zoos are on high alert. Zoos across the country are on high alert. I am skeptical about the fact that they dropped well hold on a second there i'm skeptical about the fact that they dropped a pneumonia bomb in there yeah pneumonia is contagious you know

1:23:43 Especially the walking pneumonia. Someone got me this song, because you said that on the last show Johnny Rivers... Yeah Rocking Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu Here we go! That's it! Here we go! There ya' go beautiful It exists. Back to the zoos, high alert. Zoos across the country on high alert in Phoenix five zoo animals have died after contracting avian influenza including a cheetah mountain lion and a kookaburra another zoo in Seattle losing a rare red-breasted goose to the virus members across the nation for

1:24:33 all taking precautionary measures to make sure their populations are safe and secure. Experts say this strain of the virus is unusually deadly to mammals. Okay, so now it's a new strain it's not just...it's still H5N1 but it's a new strain that's still... It's H8. Yeah, it's still H5N1. Wait, deadly to mammals? Cats? Yes. It's called avian flu, the range of mammals that it has infected has just expanded the level of concern really because it looks like many more species are potentially infectable. Am I...av- ready?!

1:25:10 At the Los Angeles Zoo, where there have been no cases of bird flu, chief veterinarian Dr. Dominique Keller is tracking the virus closely and doing everything she can to protect the animals under her care. Animals can get the virus from the droppings of an infected bird or by eating infected poultry or other food. The zoo now implementing safety measures to minimize exposure including foot baths for shoes... So that's part of the protocol? ...and stricter food protocols But the greatest risk comes from above. The hardest thing for zoos to control for is that a lot of enclosures like this one are open, so wild birds can easily fly over or land in them and if one of those birds is infected then those animals are exposed

1:25:50 The USDA has tracked the virus in more than 10,000 wild birds across the U.S.. You're never going to have zero risk so we accept that and that's part of being a veterinarian Some animals getting additional protection like the zoo's breeding population of critically endangered California condors some of the few birds to get a bird flu vaccine Whoa! The zoo has many species of endangered birds all of whom appreciate the extra care So to come back around to what you said originally, yes the pet food. The first human case of bird flu in Los Angeles County is prompting a new warning Pet owners are being told not to give their animals certain raw foods Bird flu samples were found in certain Northwest Naturals pet food products the food was recalled after a pet owner

1:26:34 A cat in Portland, Oregon died after consuming it. A warning last week cautioned against giving cats raw milk. That book Mimi's doing is gonna be banned Amazon will take it right off you can't be making your own pet food I'm reminded of the company that Jay used to work for which was a raw pet food company in Oakland and had since moved someplace else but her job was grinding up rabbits and ducks, and other animals who make this raw food. It was extremely popular especially with the upper set in places like Piedmont who would only feed their cats this stuff. And it was considered the best... I'm sure the animals loved eating it too as it must have been delicious to a cat

1:27:26 But this may be part of a scheme to kind of put the clamp, because if you haven't noticed on television there's at least two companies now and they have these kind of mocking commercials about the guy who has got some sort of raw food dog food in his refrigerator. And his friend says what are you putting dog food in your refrigerator for? Then that guy gets thrown out and then guys sit there with this dog and their feeding the dog all this stuff And so there's been a big movement to making these very high-end dog foods. This could be the kibble industry's plot. It could be, or... I'm never surprised by these types of marketing tricks. It wouldn't surprise me either. Or

1:28:11 Maybe one of those Haitians who's eating the geese? In the dogs they're in the pets get gets bird flu and then starts spreading it or spreading it amongst the Haitian population It's coming. They look ho-tep already told us Ho-Tep done told you Hotez he said yeah, we test January 21st January 24th. Who tears is when it's happening as all Texas. Oh no He's in Dallas It's all going down, you know? I thought you defended Austin there. Well... Too close for comfort! What am i doing? Of course, Austin yes yeah people here where do you live Fredericksburg where is that near oh Austin Oh Austin yeah it's great Austin

1:29:00 Hill country is a good term. Everyone knows what that means. That's the best part of Texas. It is. If you talk, oh hill country...oh hill country! Oh yeah, there's actually a hill there. We've got big hill. Yes All right what you got? You got anything? Surely you've got something fun here. Got me relaxed here with these great clips I know it I know I'm doing all the work. You're on a roll Doing all the work You do a couple ask Adams here that would be kind of fun. I think that's a dynamite idea Actually have two different ones oh the first one since we were talking about bird flu This is you don't play the clip this is just the answer to them for the question. I'm gonna ask you all right What is the national bird of the United States?

1:29:49 Well, I know the answer to this because we talked about this a few weeks ago and you would have instinctively said the bald eagle but that only just recently got signed into law. Oh, you knew the answer to this one? Yes! I knew the answer to this one. Because I was under the impression that the bald eagle was the national bird but i guess it was never than a national bird We never had a national bird. The bald eagle is now officially the national bird of the United States, this after President Biden signed some 50 bills into law including one that amends U.S. code to give the bald eagle that special status. Congress adopted the design of the Great Seal with the bald eagle front and center in 1782 but the bird hadn't been legislatively designated as the national bird

1:30:39 The bill was spearheaded by Minnesota lawmakers, which is fitting since the state has the second highest number of bald eagles after Alaska. All right so I have asked John as a follow-up ask question what did Benjamin Franklin suggest to be our national bird before he suggested the bald eagle? The turkey! Correct Well that was disappointing. There's jerkeys all over the place, it's the reason! Disappointing you knew that one... Alright let's do the next Ask Adam. Okay so here's another one this is a good one This is PolitiFact's Lie of The Year

1:31:18 You probably know the answer to this. No, I don't. Okay well let's go the clip one introduces the lie of the year question It is safe to say that 2024 campaign cycle was unlike any in modern American history The team at fact checking organization PolitiFact investigated hundreds of claims made this year by political figures to separate fact from fiction. As Ali Rogin reports, one comment stood out as PolitiFact's 2024 lie of the year. All right do I play the jingle here? Is this where i get to play the jingle you can play a jingle ask Adam, Ask Adam will he know or will he won't? I don't know but here we go! Ask Adam, Ask Adam yeah answer your question now all right go no wait if i was going to answer this if i was trying

1:32:11 Psych this question out. I would lie the year or last year especially during the election I would I would say like blood remember the bloodbath that there's gonna be a bloodbath That's a that's a whopper No troops in combat zones another good one yeah Harrison Hitler? That's a lie of the year. Hitler is a good one, yeah it was a good one. Fascist threat to democracy and the end of voting yes how about The Grid? The Grid is going down I would say that's a great lie of the year so what's your guess my guess is Joe Biden is as sharp as attack

1:32:54 That would be the top, to me Joe Biden being sharp as a tack is the lie of the year. Here it is here's the lie of the year okay they're eating the dogs people that came in there eating the cats they're eating their eating the pets of the people that lived there and this is what's happening in our country and it's a shame that's where that was the lie of the year Wow! That's not alive they're eating the dogs Let's listen to their explanation and I have a commentary. To give you about the history of PolitiFact's bull crap lies of the year. Those untrue comments set off a firestorm on the campaign trail and had a profound impact on the residents of Springfield, Ohio Now it's been named lie of the year Katie Sanders is the editor-in-chief of PolitiFact and joins me now Katie Thank you so much for being here first of all Is there any kernel of truth to this?

1:33:50 And also, how does PolitiFact determine whether something is an outright and deliberate lie versus other types of untruths? When Trump and Senator J.D. Vance were asked about this lie, and they were asked to defend it as so many officials and journalists were saying there was no evidence to support it, they kept talking about reports they heard from television in Trump's case or from constituents in the Ohio senators' case And they basically said, that is enough for us to make this claim. It's enough of a basis but people make reports to police and other agencies all the time and that just prompts investigation that doesn't mean something actually happened. Trump and Vance were circulating screenshots of allegations and police calls that were about geese not peoples pets That were later taken back by the people who made them who told journalists they regretted it

1:34:51 J.D. Vance even acknowledged that these reports he was hearing from his constituents might turn out to be false, but when they did — when they turned out to be empty — he just kept defending the lie anyway saying he could do that to bring attention to Springfield's immigration experience Yeah, yeah. Blah blah blah. Okay so let's look at the lies of the year from these guys they started doing this in 2009 and their first lie... The lies of the year from PolitiFact are always something to do with Republicans it's always a Republican! Always there's no Joe Biden sharpest attack this is the best Joe Biden blah blah but no no he has to be Republican. The first one in 2009 the first lie of the year from PolitiFact

1:35:35 was Sarah Palin saying death panels. Oh right, oh goodness yes got it and by the way death panels became what they are which is death panels still do them yeah we have them everywhere now every European Union country so then there was just a lull of various weird lies that then we get soon as Trump shows up 2015 lie of the year Trump's campaign misstatements. Wait, wait the lie of the year is a specific...is a lie not a bunch of misstatements put into a bag and called Lie Of The Year Okay well that's okay let's look at slide 2016 Trump again for saying the term using the term fake news That's a lie?

1:36:22 That's a lie! Wow. That should be word term of the year is what it should be 2017 Trump again Russian election interference is made up story No, it wasn't made up even though it was made up. But that's Trumps lie of the year we can go up to 2019. Trump claims whistleblowers got Ukraine call almost completely wrong. What? I don't even know what that means. It was a perfect call. Just one year after...couple more. Let's go to 2021 Lies about January 6th, you know wasn't an insurrection. I tried to have you know all this Trump's trump-trump-trump

1:37:07 And we finally switches over to Kennedy in 2023 out of the blue. Vaccine, yeah Vax. Once Kennedy becomes a Republican they couldn't... Kennedy's been saying the same stuff for 20 years but now he's a Republican! Lie of the year. We can say Robert Kennedy's campaign of conspiracy theories is the lie of the year again it's not any single thing it's a bunch of things So, this politics back thing that the fact that even got again another example of NPR uselessness. This is just a propaganda tool. That's great! I love that. Anyway... I think I still think mine was better sharpest attack because everybody could get in on that one. Sharp as Attack? That's the best one yes. Yes. That would be The Lie Of The Year. Well speak it. You should have...That should have been it

1:38:00 We, you know... it's just we're so lazy but we should do stuff like this. I mean here we are everyone is doing lie of the year they write it in November. Oh let's do lie of the year so that we can take off for Christmas. You know if we got bird flu were just doing a show for ya and pulling this nonsense apart. But we should be doing this stuff, we need to do the award show." I told you years ago that we should do the podcast awards or some other award shows! It's so dumb they have the Podcast Hall of Fame... Oh Adam would you please come to Miami in January and be host MC for the Podcast Hall of Fame? No! We're not going to do that

1:38:42 But how does it even make sense? Would you do it for five grand or ten grand? No, I wouldn't do it for any grand. You wouldn't do it for any grand?! No! Because it makes no sense. How many people were involved in early podcasting? This has been going on for 20 years they've been doing the Hall of Fame and by the way It's only Americans there's never any other people in it. It doesn't make any sense Podcast Hall of Fame No, we can get you a ticket to the PodFest. They weren't even going to pay for my... Ooh! The PodFest? They weren't even gonna pay for my flight But that wasn't the criteria I'm just like no, I don't want to do that They weren't gonna pay for your flight? No! They're just giving you a ticket to the PodFest In case you missed it there's not money in podcasting anymore It's all dried up All of the advertising A lot of is dried up yeah

1:39:40 Yeah, what comes and goes it's a cycle. Oh yeah? No it'll come back It'll come back and always be some some new format in some content you know at some Like what was the one that would trigger this real serial true crime cereal yes cereal one shot It's a one-shot is a one. Yeah, it was like a one hit wonder He was it came at the perfect moment everybody was Binging Breaking Bad on Netflix. Oh, this is great I can binge remember that? Binge or binge binge binge watching it was the word of the year I'm sure binge-watching and then all sudden along comes audio only mystery true crime and You couldn't binge listen it you had to wait until the next episode the next week and people liked it They were standing around at the water cooler talking about what do you think did he do it Is It True

1:40:31 And by the way, this also completely discredits the whole you've got to have video for your podcast to be successful. That's nonsense! Not a single true crime podcast does video It's all audio People like... it's in number one category For women especially they love it Morbid creatures that they are They like true crime Maybe we should do two crime podcasts He's too much work. Anyway, I wanted to play this interview... Before you play it, I do have a 9-second clip because this is PBS and this is bullcrap! This is the clip that is Chris McCaw

1:41:18 Oh, Chrismica. And for the first time in almost 20 years Christmas and the first night of Hanukkah fall on the same day some have given it the nickname Chrismica No they haven't I've never heard anybody say this Wasn't that an ad didn't Adam Sandler do that in a song? Maybe I mean that's possible, but nobody says Chris Mika. Nobody Let me see this it has a Wikipedia yes giving us his bull crap now It has it has a it has a p Wikipedia entry Yeah, let me see when does start we have in Christmas by the way because someone sent us an email about it? I looked up the form 990 for Wikimedia and the people behind Wikipedia

1:42:06 Oh yeah, people are all adamant about what's going on there with their DEI stuff. Do you know how much money they raked in in 2023? Tens of millions! Try again... Hundreds of millions. $245 million dollars Yeah, and most of it goes to hating whitey. Yes. Yeah this is a slush fund This is a hate there are hate group so slow. It's a hate group It's really it's a it's a slush fund for other stuff and they send all over the world yeah It's not they don't even use it for their own servers They said like you know this reminds me of the collapse or something sir almost the collapse of certain podcasts who? I'm gonna, you know they ask for money value for our family for value money goes to

1:42:50 to the podcast, it pays the bills. We don't take a chunk of money that people donate to us and then give it to somebody else we don't do that! No God no! It's like if you want to give it to them go give it to them why would you what would you give it to us to give it to them? Yeah that's not right... And so this happened with Adam Carolla when he was asking for money for something Oh there was the podcast patent suit Yeah, the podcast patent suit. So podcasters were collecting money for their podcasts and then giving it to him? Well this is what Wikipedia's doing! Why are they taking this money instead of just building up their site making things better... well trust me, this is not coming from people sending in there $35 to Wikipedia This is intelligence money

1:43:44 Wikipedia can't be trusted. This is the primary ingest method for anyone fact-checking or any AI that is slurping up the internet, no this is an intelligence operation 245 million dollars I think not I mean, seriously. Well there's definitely intel money involved With that i'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the C in Chris McCaw Say hello my friend on the other end the one and only Mr John C Yeah well in the morning to you Miss Jan Curry also in the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames and knights out there In the morning to the trolls in the troll room let's go guys

1:44:33 Oh no, oh we're down. Trolls down 1726 Wow I was predicting 1600 I thought it would be around 1500 honestly but i'm surprised you know what these trolls who are here we appreciate every single one there's still a lot of trolls listening that's amazing It's amazing anybody listens to us What do you think about it? Well, there is that aspect to it. It's amazing anybody listens to us! We're so damned entertaining. Yeah well we keep getting emails of people saying You know I just feel good after listening to your show. I hope so... I get the news and then you make me laugh about it yeah that's what we do for comedy show look us up under the comedy heading on Apple podcast

1:45:18 So these trolls are at trollroom.io, that's where they you can listen in you can join the troll room from there or you can get a modern podcast app please it's podcastapps with an s dot com and there you can find Podverse Fountain Curiocaster Castamatic a podcast guru, whole bunch of them all with modern features including those wonderful chapters that Dreb Scott does for us. He does that with the artwork that we get from our artists which I'll just go straight to that because um... We have no agenda artgenerator dot com part of our value for value don't steal it when you see you for our vibe Our Value For Value proposition which is we work for you we provide this as a service they uh..we believe its valuable service

1:46:06 We just ask you to send something back in return. People do all kinds of things for us, we love it when you send us money so that we can pay the bills as John just discussed but we also take time and talent as treasure being the third one and the artists which now seem to be pretty much prompt jockeys but they're out there Yeah, well yes is what it is I guess for now. I mean eventually we'll get back to real art I'm not real art will never go away. I doubted yeah What you don't think you think it's gonna be AI for the rest of our lives? We're less than just it'd be as when we when it first started off and it was like 90% Real Art and 10% AI

1:46:48 It's just flipped. It'll be 90% AI and 10% real art. You're right, it won't completely disappear." It's kind of sad to think about it. Well they upload to noagendaartgenerator.com which is still a very valuable service. Sir Paul Couture put that together for us years and years ago and we still use it twice a week And this is where any artist and even prompt jockeys can upload their art. And we gladly use that as the album art for our show, we use it for promoting the program. It looks good in the podcast apps and we always like to thank the artists who brought that for us. I think this was a new artist Susanna Lea

1:47:30 Did the artwork. We're always looking for something traditional, which Susanna Lea understood very well She gave us a Merry Christmas no agenda tree in the background Looked like balloons and candies I guess There were a number of different Christmas pieces. Of course, John immediately was like, I like that cheesecake. Yeah the cheesecake one is really good but no! And then you wanted Just The Tip by Francisco Scaramanga which you thought it was cute the girl is biting the snowman's carrot nose yeah okay John Like we didn't we didn't know what that was all about. He's kissing it! Yeah, okay And by the way I should mention that I did use that for the newsletter It's a very... For Scaramanga because Scaramanga normally uses does stuff that has got more Dimensionality is not cartoony like this piece is mm-hmm? Uh, I just thought this piece was extremely well executed by the AI Whatever he's doing there yeah Well, we knew exactly what was being insinuated there and I'd nixed that so I'll have none of that

1:48:30 Well, I used it anyway. Yeah well you can use it on your newsletter that's fine You nixed it because you're a prude! You saw into things that didn't exist It was a carrot! It existed Was unnecessary Let's see we had a couple Grinches We had Santa Sleighs What else did we have here? We had, uh... It was nice. There were other Merry Christmas bits but a lot of them from Scaramanga with bits and boobs A lot And Darren O'Neal It's like, yeah we're all... Yeah Darren and Scaramangus those two girls in the Santa outfits with the legs. Yeah. It looks like they're using the same software Oh they probably are Those two pieces Merry Christmas by O'Neill and Cheesecake for whatever theirs is basically the same piece! But it's like we're already too old white guys I mean do we really have to ham it up like that?

1:49:34 This... Yeah, those guys are like de-de-de-deteriorating in their... Horned dogs. Yeah, in their in their lasciviousness. Yeah that way lasciviousness there you go yeah we know we were in the hotel room and Christina and Kevin her fiancee were coming by to celebrate Christmas dinner with us And so I tried to find on YouTube but like how about just some nice You know like I want the yule log only one a Christmas scene and YouTube is filled With videos that are Christmas scenes, but it's all AI And you got people jerking around and it's so obviously AI. You can't even get a normal Christmas scene, like you used to be able just get Rockefeller Plaza! You know? You could see people skating on Rockefeller Plaza...You can't get that anymore No its all AI slop I feel like culture is going down the drain I really do What can I say

1:50:33 A couple weeks in Europe and next thing you know, you've turned into an old spoke. I know! I gotta get back to Texas quick where things are positive. To Texas where the conspiracies are thriving Back to the hill country Thank you all very much artists we appreciate you very much for doing this It's always fun for us after we've done a show then sit down look at the art and laugh We do laugh. We laugh a lot of stuff that is just inappropriate It's really for us, it's humor for us after the show. So it is great and we love having good art to use for our show, to promote it. It really does help Of course, we always want to thank everybody who supports the show financially. We mentioned everybody with their name and their amount over $50. We take time out here to thank our executive and associate executive producers who have supported us with 200 dollars or above that's your associate executive producer credits a real credit user wherever credits are accepted and acknowledged including IMDB dot com And will read your note 300 dollars and above you become an executive producer of The No Agenda Show for this episode

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1:58:47 So I never hit him in the mouth, but I think he would have really liked the show especially John He was laid to rest in the Texas Hill Country his favorite place to be no jingles necessary Just hoping everyone and get my nation had a peaceful enjoy his Christmas rejoice. God is with us Blaine Murphy in Houston Yes, he is. Oh, I'm gonna give your dad a karma though even though we don't have an F heart cancer You've got karma Justin Baker nearby, Norman Oklahoma $210.60 and he has a simple note that simply says Merry Christmas Bingo! Sir Ladyboy in Mount Laurel New Jersey switcheroo for my dear friend Martin McIntyre He consistently hit me in the mouth until I submitted it late 2019 because I realized NPR is full of crap

1:59:36 COVID happened and I was hooked. Thank you, Martin! Thank you boys! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Oh by the way Steve is a douchebag! Jingle they're eating the dogs They're eating the cats They're eating people's pets Timothy Wilkinson You got it In Springfield they are eating the dogs The people that came in They are eating the cats They are eating... They are eating the pets of the people that live there I love that everyone in Europe knows this. They all love it, it's so good. But when we first heard it you had to fall in love with it because the debate was not going that well and she was snickering and sniggering and she's looking at him as he is making faces and she has got her hand on his face and she's doing a great job of scene stealing during the debate.

2:00:29 Got the big smile on her face and everything. And he's just looking for something to say that gets him some attention to himself, and he drops this bomb out of the blue! And it just goes to show that in this day and age, that's what works but there's no one out there talking about The Coconut Tree You know, there's no memes. And actually I would say that the way this got around the most is... There were one or two possibly YouTube videos where guys had sampled this they're eating the dogs and did whole songs about it Everyone saw those songs

2:01:06 Yeah, it was just good. It was something to behold and it still works! He always gets a laugh. Linda Lou Patkin meanwhile is looking for some jobs karma she wants she's in Lakewood Colorado 200 bucks and she says put your best foot forward for 2025 with a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs that's image makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Lou Duchess of jobs in writer of resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! Yeah! Karma And we are down to our final associate executive producer Ed LeBoutier Ed LeBoutier Tucson Arizona

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2:02:55 Thanks for producing 1724. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth They're eating the dogs Never gets old Just never gets old never gets old Let me see a couple other things that we needed to talk about Let's get these China clips out of the way. You got some China clips? Alright! I like China clips... Yeah, I have a couple uh....

2:03:37 China minerals. China's dominance over the supply of critical minerals in the spotlight today, the Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party details their findings and proposed solutions. NTD's Melina Weisskopf was at that meeting on Capitol Hill she brings us the latest. And they listed their findings after investigating the ways in which the U.S is dependent on the Chinese Communist Party for critical minerals why is this important because those critical minerals are used to produce key elements such as semiconductors, anything from basic consumer goods all the way up to advanced military technology. So it's a real problem the fact that the Chinese Communist Party has dominance over those minerals so what these lawmakers did is they tried to find ways in the US that we can streamline production and processing here mine for those minerals and try to loosen up some of that dominance that the Chinese Communist Party has over them there also today introducing three pieces of bipartisan legislation that is Republicans Democrats

2:04:30 coming together to try to find solutions in this area, to help us be more independent in the critical minerals arena. I spoke with Chairman John Molinar about their efforts here and why it is crucial to address this issue. Here's what he told me as well as one of the Democrats that are also on this committee. Listen... What do you think is the most crucial step that will have the most beneficial outcome? You know, I think the area of allowing the Department of Interior, the Secretary to do an analysis of what friendly nations we can work with who already are mining, who already are processing and identifying how we can immediately lessen our dependence. To me that's a very good first step and then we need to build stronger infrastructure doing things here.

2:05:17 This morning, by the way there was a report they're going after Apple. The Republic of Congo or the Democratic Republic of Congo or the Congo for slave labor? Slave labor children well it's seems as if the Rwandans are going into the Congo and stealing minerals which are then used in the Apple iPhone we even though this is a stretch it's China they don't even mention China Because China's the one that makes the Apple iPhone is they're not making it and you know here in Milpitas Well, it's assembled. It's a symbol dinner in the USA yeah We're not using the minerals here their minerals aren't going here

2:06:00 So there's something sketchy about this. They're just trying to gouge the Apple, I think they're just putting it... Well you know Apple is on deck to be gouged. Apple is um... You think? Yeah yeah well they've been gouging their customers for years so there you have that! Yeah but they're on deck to be usurped by someone somehow something's gonna happen they have not had how many use the phrase a moonshot since Steve Jobs died You know, that's the stupid Apple Vision Pro. Which I like the idea of spatial computing but no they don't really have anything it's just because their their Apple intelligence can make emojis man! I tell you every single one of the Millennials so these are all between 25 and 28 years old at the Christmas shindig They love my flip phone. They're like this is cool. I want this they all wanted a flip phone Wow

2:06:57 Why exactly? Did you ask? Yeah, I said why exactly and they say well it's different. And everybody... They all have set limits on the... They've removed TikTok. They've all removed TikTok It's like, no no. I had to get stuff done. Had to remove TikTok. I was addicted to TikTok they say that hands down and so you can put limits...I don't know if it's on Android but you can on the Apple iPhone You can put a two hours per day limit and then after the 2 hours up you can't use it Two hours of Tiktok? No Instagram Oh even worse

2:07:39 Yeah, they'll play part two of this clips now there are several issues at hand here But one of the main issues that we heard from all of the lawmakers is the issue of processing so in a sense what happens Is that when we do have those minerals? We send them to China for the processing and then buy them back So we're essentially losing money to be able to have that processing done in China and at the same time giving the Chinese Communist Party more control over those critical minerals. Now, the chairman also listed how dependent we are so I'll just give you a couple of examples here. So that Chinese Communist Party processes 95% of the world's manganese 73 percent of its cobalt 70 percent of the graphite and 3 percent of global nickels. You can see how much

2:08:18 of a hand the Chinese Communist Party really has over those key minerals. One congressman that I spoke to had very interesting ideas, he gave an example of lithium and the innovation that could be used in order to make lithium obsolete in a sense so we could change the game, change the way things are working so all of the money and research that the Chinese Communist Party has put into those minerals could be pointless and then we can really have the upper hand. Listen what this congressmen had to say Maybe lithium becomes obsolete. It's not needed because there is a new material that can actually do it better than lithium and then what you've done is you've changed the paradigm, right? So they stifle here where we do it much cleaner and so what happens the capacity is shipped overseas to China where they don't really care about the environment I mean all you gotta do is go to China. I was there about seven years ago I didn't see this sun for 10 days Why? Because of all the pollution

2:09:14 Oh, brother. Yeah you know they can get rid of the lithium and use something different? I mean come on! What are you gonna use? They finally...I think they're trying to pass bills now to outlaw unapproved or non-certified lithium ion batteries particularly ones used in ebikes etc. Because New York is like this stuff is burning down buildings Yeah, well these things are dangerous. They just stop you know pushing the agenda they're bringing it on themselves How about this pedal is a concept? Pedal your bike yes I'm launching this new meme peddle your bike You don't need an e-bike

2:10:05 Just pedal. It's good for you, you'll be healthy... And with gear there is a process called gears? Oh yes! You can actually pedal fast. You could peddle faster and faster and faster with the same basic effort because of gears But who are we kidding John these are the coffee badgers The coffee batchers? Badgers Coffee badgers? Yes, it's a concept called coffee badging. I never heard this! Neither had I but here is the CNBC report on the topic Meet Mr A Every morning Mr A strolls into his office at 9am swiping his badge with perfect enthusiasm He hits a few meetings grabs coffee with colleagues and keeps the daily buzz going But here is the twist come noon he sneaks out heading home to wrap up work in comfort

2:11:02 By around 5, he's clocked out. Mission accomplished! Mr A has redefined the 9-to-5 in his own terms and interestingly this trend also has a name. colliding. It's employers wanting to get their workers back into the office and employees desire to really have more flexibility on the job, and so that's coming together in this trend of coffee badging. Coffee badging is happening because workers are using this as a soft revolt against their return-to-office mandates that companies have put out. And they just like badge in, have a coffee check in with their colleagues do some work and then leave their office early. There it is! Coffee badging

2:11:46 Why is it called coffee badging? Because you use your badge to check in, because we don't know this anymore. Wait... I have a cup of coffee. You have to have a cup of coffee, don't ya? That sounds like it. No no, now you're misunderstanding the process is you sign-in with your badge every office We don't know this anymore because we don't have an office You walk into the office. I know the process, you have a little badge and everyone's checked. And the cool kids have a badge on kind of like spring thingy pull it out of a thing and then let it go in its snaps back. Okay so your now registered because everything these days is registered that why they have mouse movers and all this stuff?

2:12:32 Now, I'm not exactly sure but i guess it's somehow different than having a punch clock. It's the same thing! Yes then you get on your Bakelite phone and you send some memos from your typewriter but yes and then so you go in he's doing me checking with her hey good morning GM, how you doing everybody? Pure Vita. Okay how's it going and then you do a meeting and then at noon, you triple out and go home and sit on your laptop or have your mouse mover working that we have no productivity Or... We have too much middle management that doesn't need to be here That is probably the real problem Well that is the real deal but what has got to do with coffee? Because you go in and say hi to everybody around the coffee machine Thats so everyone sees your face

2:13:24 So it looks like, you know we I saw him this morning. Yeah he's around He's probably in his oh, I see his mouse is moving. He's in the office Okay yeah, I have another there's a phrase that I heard over the over dinner And I want you to tell me if you know this phrase what what is it when a person dips? When a person dips yeah, yeah This I'm told by Jay and Brennan everybody knows this term I have to say, I am not familiar with the term. I didn't know it either! Is it dipping tobacco? That would be what it should mean... No, it means leave. Leave that's dipping you dip yeah they were talking about oh you had JC and Jesse gonna come over then they're gonna dip

2:14:24 That's what she said, just says this and of course anybody that says stuff like this at my table they get a grilling. I'm not that old. So I bring it up. What is this supposed to mean? What is this an idea you're gonna start using this kind of street art got yes at the table well if you're gonna end up being grilled about it Yes, and what kind of gang member are you getting this from we? Well you should tell them is if you do that you're a dipshit there you go yeah Actually, there's a dipshit gag that was involved in the whole thing but well You know who's not dipping

2:15:01 Is these poor astronauts who are still on the space station. More than six months after starting what was supposed to be an eight-day mission to the International Space Station, astronauts Sunita Williams and her space station family are now preparing to spend the holidays right there in space Welcome to the International Space Station as we get ready for the Christmas holidays It's a great time of year up here. We get to spend it with all of our family, up on the International Space Station there are seven of us up here and so we're going to get to enjoy company together." Williams and fellow astronaut Butch Wilmore were left stuck

2:15:38 abort the ISS back in June after a leak in their Boeing spacecraft made the return trip impossible. A SpaceX resupply mission gave them gifts and fresh ingredients to make special meals just for the holidays, The pair were supposed to come home back in February but of delay and launching their replacements means they'll actually have to wait until March or April to come back to Earth. Something is wrong here I agree, but I tell you the overtime must be unbelievable. Elon had the opportunity to be the hero, to shine all over Boeing, to send up a starship and bring them back home safely instead he sends up hats and a Christmas tree and a canned ham

2:16:32 You know, I'm thinking this there's a issue with the docking or that have there's been so many maybe this maybe this thing is it dud Maybe that maybe they can't dock anymore. And I have a bad feeling about this It doesn't make sense and yeah, Eli should've brought him back in February should have been done deal That would have been perfect Yeah now they put it off another month or two not more than that March March or April Month or two? Oh or three hmm Okay, on Elon just for a moment. We're still the M5M is still trying to break up the bromance between Elon and President Trump and Jen Psaki who was clearly drunk in this clip is adding her part. So now of course there's lots of speculation about when he'll... Tell me that's not drunk

2:17:27 Wow. She sounds plastered. So now of course there's lots of speculation about when his relationship might implode, as has happened so many times over the years with Trumps generals and his best people it all feels kind of inevitable right? I mean the thing is this isn't going to be the same though as Trump casting aside a Scaramucci or Rex Tillerson Because Elon Musk is the richest man in the world. He owns a social media megaphone, a platform where he has over 200 million followers and we just saw the power he wields over the Republican Party. He also has billions of dollars in government contracts I mean were relying on SpaceX rockets to get American astronauts to space and back

2:18:14 This is not an easy relationship to untangle. That's my point So yes, I mean this breakup could happen But if it does and it may take longer than we suspect I do think if it does It's going to be very very messy Wow that's a in-depth report that brought nothing to the party or the table but she was yeah It's a lead into by the way Wasn't Elon Musk gonna buy MSNBC? You dopes. Well, that was a lark. He put somebody out there and then someone amplified it but everyone all freaked out I will say it's getting to Trump just a little bit just a tiny tiny bit As you saw the president-elect acknowledge the line that Democrats have really seemed to latch on to during the budget negotiations President Musk take a listen to one response the president had president elect had Russia Russia Russia Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine all the different hoaxes The new one is

2:19:17 President Trump has ceded the presidency to Elon Musk. No, no that's not happening But Elon's done an amazing job Isn't it nice to have smart people that we can rely on? I think its getting to him just a little bit Well they know how to needle fraud him and they've been doing it And they don't do it just a little bit They all team up And I think, he knows what's going on but it does bother him. Of course it does. But it has been fantastic because Elon takes all the arrows and he just sits in Mar-a-Lago! I think Elon is a guy that is the perfect foil. He can put up with it. He's Asperger's plus one and he doesn't seem to care

2:20:09 He's more impervious to complaints than Trump is. Speaking of Asperger's Plus, this was a very interesting interview with our Pennsylvania friend Senator John Fetterman which I think... what was this on? Was this...I think it was ABC And I don't even know if he knows what he was saying because they cut this, you know... Because his speech is better. He just goes off the rails. He does the weave but never comes back and they edited this that must have been... I stopped counting after 10 edits in this one piece

2:20:50 And he's like, oh I'm kind of you know we got to stop this nonsense. He's pro-Trump! It was...I thought it was really interesting. I'm just a regular Democrat so I'm not leaving my party but i'm not sure why some of the things that I've chosen to do like meeting with nominees and having views that might be more aligned with some of the Republican side I think that's part of politics Like I've been warning people like you gotta chill out You know, like the constant freak out. It's not helpful so pack a lunch, pace yourself. He hasn't even taken office yet because I'm not rooting against him if you're rooting against the president you are rooting against the nation and and i'm not ever going to be where

2:21:42 president to fail. So country first, I know that's it's become maybe like a cliche but but it happens to be truth you have a singular political talent It's undeniable. Trump? You know, he had the energy and almost a sense of fearlessness to just say all those kinds of things and people it's undeniable that it has entertaining aspect for that too I never believed that it was about fascism

2:22:20 And for me that made it difficult. But, but uh... It's not a word that I would use because you put a lot of Democrats especially in my state That I know and I happen to love people that are going to vote for Trump and they are not fascists and also fascism. That's not a word that regular people use, you know? I think people are going to decide who is the candidate that's gonna protect and project my version of the American way of life And that's what happened Unbelievable Yeah, I'm glad you got that clip He's an okay guy! The one point he makes in there which i didn't consider at the time but it should have been considered

2:23:07 Which is he's right about the word fascist. Nobody knows what that means Yeah, they think they do you know there's just it's just like it's a term from World War two and before I mean It became a thing in the 20s and then became a movement fascisti out of Italy actually yeah And then it became a party and then it became part of the Nazi ethos, let's say. And then it disappeared from use and it hasn't been used since in any real sense ever since. And so what 20 year old or 30 year old even knows what it means? Or cares whether Democrats are pounding it out of a fascist fashion lie of the year should have been but no.

2:23:53 Yeah, he's very common sense-ish. And by the way the Italian guys 40 and over they understand what fascism is because they say the European Union Brussels fascist and they're right That's the definition of fascism right there. Yeah, well Italy is really you know was a foundation of fascism And so they would have it in their culture and in their history They invented it they know what it's about invented it Good at it It was and by the way it was an academic movement out of the universities You know we went to a winery while we were in Florence who went to the Castile Verrazano yeah, and I did not know

2:25:37 decided to screw Gates, who's been doing some screwing of his own. A new House ethics report is out accusing former Congressman Matt Gaetz of violating state laws regarding prostitution, statutory rape and drug use. The 37 page report finds that Gaetz paid women for sex or drugs on at least 20 occasions and includes text message screenshots where Gaetz asked women to bring quote a a full compliment of party favors to his hotel. The committee says that this was a code word for ecstasy or other drugs, another exchange shared by the committee an unnamed woman and Gates seem to be arguing over pay when she asks gates quote so I'm not to be taken care of for last week gate response saying quote i gave you 250 today in about last week says quote you gave me a drive-by

2:26:26 Now, Gates is striking back at the report on his ex account posting or reposting about it more than 30 times since its release. Writing in part quote they did this to me and a Christmas Eve eve report and not in a courtroom of any kind where I could present evidence and challenge witnesses. Trump meantime continues to stand by gates late last night gates posting this picture with the caption I got a great note from President Trump The note is written on a printed headline of the story and reads Matt very unfair So it was like a hundred thousand dollars for ten escorts. Yes, that is kind of distressing. Eight grand? But the other... There's other aspects to this story that should be noted and there are three of them. First off the woman who accused Gates said she was 17 and accused Gates

2:27:23 I'm, according to one news report and the reporter seems to be a real guy who used to work for Associated Press claims she's actually in jail for pulling this stunt of sexual accusations. Oh interesting! And she's in the slammer Okay...and so there's that one thing The second thing is that lot of this has set up so gates can sue Congress over the release of this information. Interesting because they're not supposed to do that so there's a lawsuit that's possible and if this woman is in prison I think that could go through, and the third thing is Marjorie Taylor Greene has come out with...and I think reasonably so

2:28:04 And says if we're going to start releasing this sort of thing, let's release all these. We have a ton of these things backed up with all the bribes that have been going on from Congress who've paid off pages and hookers... $27 million dollars! Yeah it's some huge amount It's a huge amount if you're gonna release this one report let's release ALL the reports Great idea! Let it go. Yeah! I think she is right Good idea That would be fun Good for the show. That'd be great fun! Good for the show, and I'll bet you Nancy Pelosi has a couple of them on her name. You wouldn't be surprised yes And then there's this report which

2:28:44 I'm troubled by both parties in our country about this. Donald Trump's team criticizing President Biden after his decision to commute the sentences of most federal death row inmates to life in prison, a spokesperson for Trump's transition team saying quote these are among the worst killers in the world and this abhorrent decision by Joe Biden is a slap in the face to the victims their families and their loved ones President Trump stands for the rule of law, which will return when he is back in the White House after he was elected with a massive mandate from the American people. Early yesterday, The White House announcing Biden is taking 37 people off a federal death row not commuting three individuals one of two brothers responsible for the Boston Marathon bombing Dylan Roof who killed nine people at historically black church and Charleston South Carolina and Robert Bowers who killed 11 at Pittsburgh's Tree Of Life Synagogue

2:29:37 In a statement, Biden pushed back against the use of the death penalty at the federal level saying quote make no mistake. I condemn these murderers grieve for the victims of their despicable acts and ache for all of the families who have suffered unimaginable and irreparable loss in good conscience. I cannot stand back and let a new administration resume executions that I halted this is so troubling because on one hand you have the Democrats and Biden with a moral issue Saying I we can't kill people but we all want abortion and then yeah, well this has always been the big classic irony both the Democrats and Republicans Yes, like as a Republicans did our pro-life except when it comes to executions. Yes is like how does the Democrats are Pro death? Yeah except when it comes to executions just like what and so on people pick aside oh

2:30:35 And then Biden screws this, I think is that just some other people that came on to give testimony about the testimony. They came out and discussed this on these shows and it's like if Biden is going to do this because he's so adamant about the death penalty why did you leave the three guys still on death row? If you're gonna do it, you let everybody off. You don't have... you don't pick three guys out and say well these guys just uh they draw the line with them It just doesn't make any sense I mean it's against my morals any kind of death But if you're going to do it, give us the television rights so we can broadcast live both the executions... You've always wanted that. I want to broadcast... The bonanza of the billionaire move! That's right. We want the television rights for the executions and the abortions It'll end people's thirst for death forever

2:31:29 But that's probably true. It is a positive thing to do. A ratings bonanza, I'm telling you would be great! They used to have the executions in the town square Yeah they did. Then we're gonna hide it now...hide it So I have a clip that's interesting Now I don't know if this is true or not. There was a PBS clip I think because they showed the video And this is distressing and at the same time I'd like to see it done or somebody do a scientific version of it instead of this rando thing. It could be bullcrap, but it doesn't surprise me if it IS true This clip is the lizard DNA clip Okay... I wanted to see what would happen If I sent my pet lizard DNA into 23andMe So with the help of my wife we extracted enough saliva To send off in the mail

2:32:23 We were so excited to see the results. After about three months, we were shocked! My lizard was 51% Ashkenazi Jewish. He was also 48 percent West Asian This is really interesting They also gave us a little bit of his background and history What he liked to eat etc Let us know which animals Yeah, I don't believe in these DNA tests anymore ever since we sent off two separate tests for our dog and they came back wildly different. It's...I just don't trust it! I think is bogus too

2:33:02 But I don't, I can believe that they'd send a lizard saliva in and get Ashkenazi Jew which apparently everybody in the world turns out to be a certain percentage of that. Yes And that doesn't surprise me since the company is founded by the woman who was married to an Ashkenazi Jew No there you go There's a little thing as it set up There you go but its 23, they're not even business anymore? I think their still doing testing Oh No, why would anyone say that? It doesn't mean they're not bankrupt but whatever the case. Okay so we heard once again this is 2024 the hottest year on record for climate change due to climate change and it was interesting to see that it had not snowed in the Alps uh...in the portion of the mini-Alps where we went

2:33:51 with, uh... from my brother-in-law's birthday party. There was snow there for the first time in five years but it still is still the hottest year on record and they were trying to keep it up over there on NBC It's the picture perfect Hollywood holiday a white Christmas full of snow and wonder movies like It's A Wonderful Life Home Alone Elf and countless more. And before the silver screen came Silver Bells, White Christmas and other iconic songs connecting snow and Christmas in our collective American psyche but now the idea of a white Christmas may become a thing of fiction this week mostly everyone coast to coast experiencing warmer than average temperatures A big reason for the difference?

2:34:40 Climate change. Typically the highest chances of a white Christmas in the US are in the upper Midwest, Adirondacks and northern New England and in the West higher elevations like The Rockies and Sierra Mountain ranges but climate change is continuing to drive up temperatures across the nation Just last year, the National Weather Service reported only about 17% of the lower 48 experienced a white Christmas with one inch or more snow on the ground. The lowest number since measuring that started in 2003 Some of the biggest cities up north like Washington DC, Philadelphia and New York City haven't seen snow on Christmas day since 2009. The Environmental Protection Agency studied why and says in almost 80% of locations they're getting less snow and more rain but whoopsie some might find it great news either way the National Weather Service office out of New York officially declaring it is a white Christmas for New Yorkers look at that yeah

2:35:38 Yay! First time since 2009. We did it, yay! Yeah there's a tweet so they actually sent people out to measure at Central Park this morning at 7am and for those of you not familiar there is a technical definition of a white Christmas You've gotta have one inch of snow on the ground and again this is all for bookkeeping It can be relative I mean if its me and look out the window and see some snowflakes flying around Right I'm calling it a white Christmas but this is for the books First one that we've had since 2009 and actually in 09, we had two inches of snow on the ground. So due to climate change it snowed I guess... What a crock! It really is what? I guess people don't believe it anymore. Just too bad for spending so much money on it hmm all right uh to get this uh to wrap this show up John I see you have them so...

2:36:36 I got some clips, but I mean I could push those through these around because I have so much. I have a couple of News well, I wanted to play that yeah, I'd have two other ones in there. Oh, I got a couple tick-tock clip Yeah, yeah, I know you did but you didn't get cute to do that you just did it You didn't press the button I know, i got this button here and didn't press. I just want to play the climate mammoth found...I think this is interesting because you talk about climate change..i had a climate clip. You should have seen it. I'm sorry, i should have seen it. You're right the climate mammoth story its important, its big everyone's talking about it Scientists in Siberia have unearthed what they say may be the best preserved body of a woolly mammoth ever found

2:37:21 The 50,000-year old remains of the female baby mammoth are complete with flesh skin and bones. She's believed to have been just a year old when she died they found her in the melting permafrost which has been accelerated by climate change that's led to more prehistoric discoveries in recent weeks including the 35,000 year old mummified body of a saber-toothed kitten also in Siberia. It was so well preserved elite researchers said its fur was quote surprisingly soft due to climate change. Climate change is great! They shouldn't be petting dead animals you get bird flu that way don't pet the dead animals people stop it

2:38:06 I thought climate change, that's the good side of climate change. I don't know why they don't see it as a good positive thing. And it was a kitten! It was a woolly... what was it? A sabertooth cat. Sabertooth kitten! Sabertooth kitten. That's a new one. Sabertooth kitten. And then we have this one other clip but I'd like to get out of the way which is Ukraine's stolen Russian money clip. Oh boy! Officials in Ukraine say they've received the first billion dollars in promised loans from the United States backed by proceeds of frozen Russian assets. And here is Brian Mann reports from Kyiv that the funding comes as part of a 50 billion dollar loan plan created by G7 leaders last summer

2:38:46 Ukraine's Prime Minister Denis Schmohol said on social media the first billion dollars have arrived That's out of 20 billion in loans expected from the US with an additional 30 billion and support slated to come from other big industrial G7 countries including Britain and Canada We thank our American partners, and The World Bank for this important step toward justice Schmohol said The arrangement allows countries to support Ukraine's economy and military with massive loans, with payback coming from revenue from Russia's overseas assets frozen after the 2022 invasion. Russian officials have condemned the arrangement as fraudulent posting on social media that loans and other support for Ukraine will prolong the war

2:39:30 So what did they do with this money? They're stealing money. I just find it deplorable Yeah, but are they gonna spend it on war stuff on us? Well... maybe..I hope so Alright so I'm gonna play- I got three talk clips I can play Three?! Okay Is that too many? Well let's see how they do Okay well lets start with the trans girl- I don't know if its a girl or guy A guy being a girl and a girl being a guy I guess it is a girl that is trans somehow but whatever the case she hates now hates her dad because he voted for project 2025 which I didn't know was on the ballot you know. I had voted in this last election, i looked and I didn't see a vote there for project 2025 but

2:40:16 Maybe in some areas there was. Let's see what she has to say. I took yesterday to be angry and miserable, and I also took yesterday to make the decision to block my father who will still end up seeing this so hi dad And yes, I did block him because of who he voted for Because he knows that I am trans and he knows that I have had two abortions and he still voted for project 2025 which to me is reprehensible I have my husband who loves and supports me to the ends of the earth. I have my friends who love and support me to the ends of the Earth, And i have other family members Who love and support me to the ends of the Earth! And...I genuinely do not need anyone else. I realize this is something that not everyone Is able to do safely, and uh.. I'm very grateful for My ability to do that safely. I cut my mother off until The day she died. And.... I can and will Do that again

2:41:14 I find it all that terrible. It's very sad That she said these people are all sad. Yeah, there's another good example This is the Christmas candy lady Christmas candy lady okay? I just walked some Christmas candy That my neighbors make every year and leave on people peoples porches I just walked it back over to their house and stuck it on their porch and walked away That's unlike me But they've had their giant Trump take America back again flag up for months. They know my daughter's transgender, I've tried talking to them about it kindly and gently asking them not to do something that would basically destroy my child and they didn't care so at this moment in time i feel that it would be really hypocritical of me to accept a gift from them. I don't care that its Christmas okay?

2:42:11 Make Christmas every day. Give my daughter the gift of safety, a bathroom she can use and her name and her gender How about that? Give her that Then you can do all the candy you want until then you could take your candy back again You know the common theme here is narcissism This is the common theme these people are narcissists it's all about them It's not about her daughter And the other one...it's not about her, it's about HER And I should, you know... So we were at breakfast at the hotel in Florence. We're sitting down and there's a whole bunch of people there it's busy, it was buffet breakfast and right next to us is table with mom dad and two kids. These kids they're noisy they are running around which would you ever let your kid run around in a restaurant?

2:43:07 No. Of course not, you say shut up! You're bothering people so the dad is just looking into space while mom is on her phone the whole time she's completely oblivious to the kids and then I think that father said maybe one thing like hey be quiet and then it switched and she was off looking into space and he was on his phone I mean, there's something inherently narcissistic about a generation that has grown up with phones. And by the way why are you putting this on TikTok? You know... The big question yeah, I think you

2:43:49 That's a very interesting observation as I've always felt the same way. Why are you... Defining narcissism, why are you putting this on TikTok? And why exactly what do you and here is the big trend. What does it accomplish? Well here well it's narcissism and people pay attention to you and post comments like oh girl um big thing Tina was showing this to me The Big Thing This Holiday Season The Christmas Cheer is a post that goes like this, This is really difficult post. This is really difficult for me to tell you and then it's about my mom died, my dog died, my sister died, I lost my job... It's like why are you doing this?

2:44:34 And I can only conclude the same thing. It's narcissism and they thrive on getting the, you know... You're a victim! By the way it is mainly white women who have these horrible stories and always say this is really difficult and they are crying but I think that just they don't have any victim cards so they need to be a victim by something horrible and you know what? Horrible things happen in your life. But they need to put it on TikTok or on Reels or X these days. Everything has the same video scrolling behavior and it's has something to do with very, very deep narcissistic behavior I think you can blame the phones Yeah Since you mentioned women I do have the same thing only as a guy Uh-huh And of course You can visualize what this guy looks like

2:45:26 Do I need to visualize him? There's always this kind of piggy-like face in all these people, the women and the men. But this guy...this is the dude who's done crying! Oh gosh okay, dude. I'm done crying my sadness is over My anger has set in I am a very petty person and i am very proud of that. A little bit about myself actually, and so... I say this in the most disrespectful way possible. I don't care if you are my family. I don't care if you're my friend. I don't care if we've been friends our entire lives

2:46:04 You can literally go fuck yourself if you voted for Donald Trump. If you are so sad about your groceries being expensive, get a better fucking paying job! Do better in life get a fucking education do something because you're fucking stupid and I hope you go jump off of a fucking bridge. Okay, we need warnings for these clips because kids listen with their parents And it's all III don't care III Yeah, this night that your you know nailed it with the north is all narcissistic yes

2:46:42 And it's pathetic. All right, let's play the logged in girl cuz I saw this one. I thought this was pretty okay now Now we switch gears. I liked her So there are funny you saw it yeah so we switched gear said instead of bitching and moaning about Trump Yes or be having to disown your parents because the way they voted cuz you know You'd have to vote the way you want This is a form of, this is also I think narcissistic but the target is different and it's actually quite funny. I'm so tucking into things! I'm so tired of it! I can't believe I'm gonna have to things for the rest of my life just let me see my things! My things are right there just be logged in

2:47:32 logged in for once and don't get me started on the keep me logged in check box. Okay, this is the close elevator doors button all over again I know bullshit when I smell it if I ever see the person that programmed that little checkbox it's absolutely onsite! I just want to be logged in and all you cyber security people that told them websites that we need to be changing our passwords every five minutes you're next I don't care if that makes me safer. Go ahead, hack my shit! You're gonna hate what you find okay? I just would rather be logged in and if one of you smart ass little punks comes into my comments and tells me I should be using a password manager that oh the keychain will fix all over this okay? I wish fucko this can

2:48:28 I can't be the future! Oh, I liked her. Yes that was pretty good. Okay we'll finish with that. The keep me logged in box is kind of a hoax. I have to agree... That thing rarely works for me either It works once in a while. People don't want that. Yes, it's the close elevator door button which is usually not hooked to anything. Exactly! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab Yeah on NO AGENDA

2:49:06 We do have some meetup reports coming and a rundown of the meetups that are on the way. And, of course everyone wants to stick around for John's famous tip of the day but first we're going to thank every single producer who supported us financially in our value-for-value model $50 and above sorry your excuse what I did by the way you were touched you snapped closed the spreadsheet I know. I had clicked, by the way it shows how fast we get back online. Instead of shrinking the window... You click the disconnect button? I disconnected us! Wow clean feed man those guys are good. And back and back. It's beautiful Well we do have a few people to thank starting with Brian Shop in Hayesville Kansas one two three four five one of our best numbers yes

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2:55:56 This is Alex Happy in Virginia. We're in Hopewell, trains good planes bad! Hi this is Rosalind from King George shout out to Blonde Squad plus Trisha and let's see what 2025 has in store for us Hey guys! Hey! This is William Trelwchicken. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Hey, Jeff from Springfield. Merry Christmas John and Adam in the morning. ITM boys thank you for your courage. Guten Morgen! Frohe Weihnachten Ed from Stadley Virginia ITM Marshall from Milogos Hill Virginia Christopher and King George happy to be at our first meetup in eight months

2:56:34 Hey, this is Sir William of West Pennsylvania from Alexandria. Train's good...drone's bad! This is Tom Starkweather I have not been at a meetup in more than six months and this re-charged me! Yes, you get recharged from the meetup. You get recharged by hanging out with human beings put down the phone lift your head go to a meetup as they did in Los Banos California for the resist we much meet up This is Commodore sir Robertson of two sticks at the resisting much meet-up at Mian Ed's and laws banos

2:57:11 Sir Montag here, having a great time with great people and great pizza. Alright this is dude named Ben named Ben Duke of San Francisco getting ready for the eventual disclosure or Project Bluebeam! This is sir Rick Halstead, crazy Steve II and I just want to wish my wife Rose a happy 17th anniversary as of yesterday yes Adam & John we got together the same year you two dudes created the best podcast in the universe And we never had a fight. Actually, we have and I always won! Merry Christmas in the morning! Very nice to hear... Lovely

2:57:55 The meetup started this morning in Dallas-Fort Worth, the MidCities Meetup at 1130 as a Bourbon Street Bar and Grill. So I hope to get a meetup report from them for Sunday. The Fort Wayne... See this is for... Oh! I'm sorry my mistake there's nothing today that's for Saturday there you go it's So that will be taking place 1130 and that's in Bedford, Texas. The Fort Wayne Club 33 year end Man & Cheese meet up at Casa Grill and Bar in Fort Wayne Indiana That should be a good one And then on Sunday New Year's Eve December 30th Well we will be doing a show is it Sunday New Year's Eve? No Sundays not new you know if New Years Eve is the New Year's is Monday

2:58:42 No, New Year's Eve is Tuesday. Tuesday? Well these guys are nuts! Oh I see what they call it the New Year's Eve eve... You're confusing the podcaster. New years eve eve and i like pizza steve that's the whole meetup title 330 on sunday bald man brewing in egan minnesota oh that says Steve Bionnastra he's our pilot go hang out with him He has lots of cool stories. Also coming up in the new year, Raleigh North Carolina Colorado Springs we have Ronan Park California Yukon Oklahoma Baton Rouge Louisiana Cincinnati Ohio Eagle Idaho Keene New Hampshire South Sloaken

2:59:26 British Columbia, Candinavia, Charlotte North Carolina, Tri-Cities Washington, Adventura Florida Rockville Maryland. I used to live in Rockville or near Rockville Albany California hey John February 1st Albany Albany California that's near you you should go are you going? Oh yeah, I'll be there. Cool 23rd Orlando Florida this is February then March St Petersburg Florida safe on the Netherlands March 29th May 18th Wow go to noagendameetups.com and get the full list of every single No Agenda Meetup that's taking place these are producer organized it's like TED Talks only a lot cooler and you can get drunk noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you start one yourself! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

3:00:13 And at this moment in the show we like to select the ISO that will be using to close out the show. Once again I'm falling down on the job doing very poorly with my, uh, with my isos but i do have one just one from an earlier clip we played no no and double no That's really all I've got. It's not... No, it's pathetic! Well, I know you got better ones. You came prepared. So I have one that I took the original and then I edited so it would be shorter. Oh okay. But I have two versions of the same clip. Okay alright

3:01:01 So it's one and two. It says show over one Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah Happy New Years The show is over It's too long it won't fit in this five seconds. It won't fit in the outro I have it down as four seconds. Well, let's speed it up! Okay? Merry Christmas Happy Hanukkah Happy New Years The show is over Okay It's a contender...I'll take it Yeah and what else? That's two seconds That'l do that'll do okay Let's try these other two and see if they're better I got done Yep ok we are done Not bad And then overall ready No it can't be overall ready

3:01:44 No, I think Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah! Happy New Year's the show is over. I think that's the winner And now ladies and gentlemen time for the of the show John's tip of the day Parted a chip of the day seems a new segment is the complaining about the previous tip-of-the-day Discussion Oh who does this? Who's lying doing yes, but who's complaining? Who's complaining was oh well we have we have Puerto Rican listeners ah And they're complainers a

3:02:23 Oh yeah, they're complaining about a lot of stuff. The Puerto Ricans complain... This note is kind of interesting this came from one of the complainers Carlos and he complains about the adobe goya... Carlos the Complainer huh? Carlos the Complainer his last name starts with c2 so it's gonna be very good Carlos the Complainer talks about adobe goya the seasoning is Puerto Rican in origin and it should be mentioned, it's Puerto Rican. And he went on and on he him and two other guys mostly complained bitterly but Carlos I think was the one who said Mexican food no good! It's tasteless and all they do put hot sauce on everything and of course then another guy from Puerto Rico says well you know the problem with the Goya adobo

3:03:12 I said to everybody, I'm just giving a tip for a spice. I don't care the details here but okay so they go on and on about they should not crediting Puerto Rico but in this note he sent...I went back and forth with Carlos more than once and he talked about the Adobo then he said on a different issue you can call the company American...he's talking about that the company started in Puerto Rico or supposedly or the guy came from Puerto Rico it was New York Company I'm part of a majority of the people of Puerto Rico who want to become a state, not in the USA. Yeah! In Puerto Rico we are born American citizens We have the same passport as you do in the States and there is no such thing as Puerto Rican citizenship That's correct! We are subjected to the same federal laws and have federal courts here The main difference is that we don't pay federal taxes Yes...that's it

3:04:10 which is attractive to millionaires of the states that come here more to avoid paying federal income taxes and receive excellent benefits, or just paying a low local income tax. Another issue is that we can't vote in the presidential elections but we can vote in the primaries at the GOP and the DNC. We don't vote in the election of the commander-in-chief but we serve in the armed forces. So the thing is now see So if you want to become a state, but right now you don't pay federal income tax? What are you complaining about?! Shut up already! Just so you could vote for the president. That's a swap I'd make You got a good deal as far as i'm concerned Now the end of appeal course doesn't start new thread Yes But Carlos is of the group that wants to become a state

3:05:01 And well, I think you should. I admire our Puerto Rican listeners and quite a few of them. Yeah because if three of them wrote in that means there's at least 300 that probably agree and will let you in if you pay taxes and back taxes. I think he got a good deal going but I know a lot of people who went to Puerto Rico during covid and they stayed. They never came back. They loved it Yes, it's supposed to be gorgeous. A lot of trash I hear? Yeah a lot of garbage they can't seem figure out what to do with it They don't have federal garbage pickup. Oh anyway we love you guys

3:05:44 So this week's tip is from Nail Tech. It's the nail bandage instant nail bandage. Whoa, got a redundant name. Is it if you get it at Amazon there six bucks and 30 cents which is screwball price but so you crack a nail Now Mimi has her own way of doing this, but I these things work great you crack a nail which idea because I opening a can of liquid death. I might add mmm, I cracked the nail and the on the can and So I be it wishes a pain in the ass cuz he got these catches on everything You know what? I'm talking about

3:06:24 And so you put this little piece of plastic, it's very... They're hard to get off their packaging. It's a screwy product but you get this little piece of plastic and they put it over the nail and they can't see it is completely invisible but it covers up the... It seals the little crack in the nail. And I recommend this highly now Mimi has a she told me this is crap And what she likes to do is you got a cracked nail, you put super glue on the nail and then you coat it with clear nail polish. If it's a real bad crack, you can put a very thin piece of fiberglass over your nails and do the same thing, glue it on.

3:07:07 And I'm thinking, I don't think so. These little patches are great they work fine so that's my tip of the day. Once again what are they called? What is this called? This nail bandage it's available on Amazon by Nail Tech T-E-K. I have a tip of the day request. I had for the longest time and i think i bought it on an airplane and i can't find it anymore...I had a scale that you use to weigh your baggage So you put, you hold it in your hand and that has the little digital readout. And then you clip it on to... You hook it onto your luggage handle and it tells you exactly how much your luggage weighs which is handy particularly with I don't want to be that guy who's unpacking his suitcase at check-in and I can't for the life of me find them anymore

3:07:59 Wow, I'd never heard of such a thing but it's a great idea for product and be very easy to make nowadays with the digital memes that do weighing. Yes! And I would love... Well, I'm sure there is something out there that will do the trick and one of our listeners and producers will give us the answer to that. I should mention one of my experiences playing around in Europe went like this so I go into your bags are two pounds overweight And I said, oh what's that gonna cost? Well you know they had this fish it was just gonna cost 25-30 bucks. He said hold on a second so I unzipped the bag I took the two pound laptop out and stuck it under my arm zipped the bag back up put it through the scale and say okay you're good to go mm-hmm So then I took the bag off put the laptop back in and checked it These days you can't even pay extra for overweight

3:08:58 It's a workman's comp thing. You cannot do that, it's like if it is over 50 pounds you're screwed you gotta take it out and they will not check your bag Well there are always work arounds Don't over pack There ya go And thats your tip of the day everybody thank you very much for listening Created fast for you and me, just a chip with JCD. Created by Dana Brunetti And sometimes Adam He still hasn't called me I'm a little irked about it Ha ha! Tell him to call ya Well shoot me an email Send me a DM What? Email? Send me a DM A DM will work Slide into my DMs Brunetti And that concludes On Insta or on Twitter? No X he's always DMing me on x

3:09:50 He doesn't I don't think he uses X much. I think it goes there once a month Well, it's been a month we did everything he asked Holly is typical Hollywood do this for me Typical Hollywood arrogance yeah That concludes our broadcast day Sunday I will be coming to you back from the Texas Hill country excited to be back excited to see my dog again for sure and End of show, mixes coming up from Deez Laffs and Joseph Grillo who did a great hot Luigi mix. And up next on No Agenda Stream the modern podcast apps in TrollRoom.io even though they were very mean to me on Noster Sir Spencer and Dame DeLorean with Bowl After Bowl

3:10:38 See, I forgive. I can forgive Coming to you from 15 feet below sea level here in Schiphol Amsterdam the Netherlands In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where the weather is mixed I am John C. Dvorak Remember us at knowagenthedonations.com Until next time Adios mofos a hooey hooey inside Remember he has a moniker And Matty J. Uh, Dee's laughs? What the next thing they gonna fear monger another virus climate change or world hunger They passing out billions in every direction not a TV show But we divided by intersection Marvin Aspin 71 what's going on finishing the year in 22 Where did we go wrong pay attention to everything The truth reveals itself is what Mofax said I say it to myself

3:11:34 Met the man you said hey release your delve. It's Christmas time I'm always moving like the elf on the shelf, but I don't play these childish games only one I play is with my nephews are caught up for much of the stains forgot about that about the guitars like Eddie Hazel Funkadelic is funky not fresh like homegrown basil To all the producers thank you for the 3 Ts Time, talent and treasure I think we all agree John C. DeVorek and my man Adam Curry Host of best podcast going into 2023 Value for value international lifestyle Twice a week yo we love it All The While You put a number meaningful to

3:12:12 Just donate, don't be a shapeshifting you know who Shoutout Maddie J for the uh instrumental We going mental I dunno but it was one of the more serious ones. It was way back in the day This one now is probably- he probably got the same one that i got like a month ago which...I'm not vaccinated I got the Johnson & Johnson, right when it was first available. Which that was probably just like syrup for all i know something like that. This Ivy League hottie named Luigi is a Robin Hood we never knew we needed

3:12:56 Honestly, it's beautiful and I agree with him. The children have a brand new star his name is Luigi the cutest little hottie all the boys think that he's sweet He shot a CEO right in the back out on the street And rode a city bike into the park so naturally oh yeah Oh, Gingy the G is hot Luigi the Killer. Gingy the G, the Italian Christmas killer. I'm just eating buttons because this is like regular everyday person becoming our hero, our vigilante. Luigi wore a mask to hide his killer Hollywood face

3:13:42 He made a big mistake asking the server for a date A camera caught him clear as day, he let his mask come down There was Hot Luigi eating a crispy Mac hash brown Oh! Jingy da jing It's Hot Luigi the Giller Jinky da jing The Italian Christmas Killer I listened to Luigi's manifesto this morning three times and I cried. Honestly, it's beautiful and I agree with him. Oh the radicals love Luigi! He's really quite the ham. He gained a million followers on X and Instagram Now all the normal people hope he gets what he deserves Let's hope they throw

3:14:29 a book at him, a lifetime he will serve. Oh! Jingadajing! It's hot Louisa the killer. Jingadajing! The Italian Christmas Killer. His initial 827 followers on Instagram grew exponentially Monday as we watched By 3 o'clock, more than 32 thousand. An hour later... 53 thousand! By 5 o'clock Monday, more than 71 thousand Hey Luigi where you going with that gun in your hand? Take the gun leave the cannolis The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N A Merry Christmas Happy Hanukkah Happy New Years This show is over