Episode 1713 · Sunday, 17 November 2024

Lipless Wonder

A Staten Island bakery refutes political bias claims as the incoming administration prepares to dismantle federal agency capture and disrupt the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical advertising industry.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1713

About this episode

Whoopi Goldberg sparked a national firestorm after accusing Holtermann's Bakery on Staten Island of refusing service based on her political leanings. The historic establishment quickly refuted the claim, providing evidence of equipment failure and drawing sharp comparisons to the arbitrary service refusals seen in classic sitcom tropes. This clash serves as a backdrop to the broader cultural realignment following the Mar-a-Lago gala, where Donald Trump celebrated his cabinet picks alongside Elon Musk and Sylvester Stallone.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has signaled a massive overhaul of the HHS, targeting the $20 billion pharmaceutical advertising machine and pledging to open the Vaccine Safety Datalink to independent researchers. While CNN’s Abby Phillip and various medical panels debate Kennedy’s lack of traditional credentials, his supporters point to the rising autism rates in JAMA studies and the historical lack of liability for manufacturers of the HPV and swine flu vaccines. Meanwhile, Tulsi Gabbard faces intense opposition from John Bolton and John Brennan following her nomination as Director of National Intelligence, as the Trump transition team considers using recess appointments to bypass Senate friction.

Technical failures during the Netflix broadcast of the Mike Tyson and Jake Paul fight highlighted the fragility of modern streaming infrastructure compared to traditional linear television. Cultural shifts continue as The Guardian exits X for Blue Sky, while a Michigan jury awarded $13 million to a former Blue Cross Blue Shield employee fired over vaccine mandates. The episode concludes with a look at the APEC summit in Lima, where Joe Biden’s peripheral positioning in the family photo signaled a changing of the guard as Xi Jinping inaugurated a new billion-dollar port in Peru.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Whoopi Goldberg, Staten Island Bakery Controversy

Whoopi Goldberg accused a Staten Island bakery of refusing her service due to her political beliefs, a claim the establishment later refuted in a press conference. The bakery, identified as Holtermann's Bakery, clarified that their equipment was actually down at the time of the request. The incident drew comparisons to the "Soup Nazi" trope from Seinfeld regarding service refusals in New York.

whoopi goldberg· staten island· holtermann's bakery· political discrimination· soup nazi

00:00 Now they should stop sucking it in. We are buffering and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am telling you whoopee is done! I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill...in the morning! You're just following the rumors

00:36 I said it about three or four shows ago. I know, you did! I predicted six months max but now that she went after some poor mom-and-pop bakery where they had a national press conference after the fact... Oh I missed this what happened? This sounds good Oh, yeah. The other day she comes on the show and she says oh you know this lousy bakery wouldn't serve me because of my political beliefs Is that true? Yeah well I mean there's a baker in Staten Island that she goes to all the time

01:14 And they make these parfaits and they had a whole table full of them. One of the, whatever that Sarah, whoever that one woman was spit it out when she said this and then she got to parfaits anyway and it turns out in the bakery which is well known one in Staten Island did a press conference saying this is a lie our bake, our ovens were down and they went on and on and on. It wasn't a huge embarrassment Oh, you know back in the day we all used to laugh at the soup Nazi. No soup for you! There were no lawsuits there was no national outrage it's just... You get no soup? You're no good. You were rude to this to the soup Nazi. Yeah there was actually a place in New York where that supposed to be. It was modeled after some guy yeah I believe it was. Somebody pointed out to me once is a little soup kitchen.

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Netflix, Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul Streaming Issues

Netflix faced significant technical difficulties during the live broadcast of the Mike Tyson and Jake Paul boxing match on Saturday night. Users reported widespread buffering and app crashes, leading to criticism of the platform's transition into live sports broadcasting. The failure highlights the ongoing struggle for streaming services to match the reliability of traditional linear television.

netflix· mike tyson· jake paul· buffering· live streaming

02:09 I felt really bad for some dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette. Saturday night, was it Saturday night? The Tyson-Paul fight on Netflix Yeah Ru Paul beat up Mike Tyson Heyo! Did you watch? Yeah And did you have any buffering issues Yeah, it crashed twice. At one point they said well you better just turn off the app and reboot it Reboot your router Well they didn't say that but they had to turn off Netflix and get back in You missed like two minutes of something yeah They couldn't do it It was all big so we're gonna be the big streamers now us there We know what were doing here at Netflix. They could keep the servers going they did it wrong? You know

03:00 We know how to market these mistakes. The way it used to go, if I can remember correctly the Victoria's Secret fashion show that was streamed live and the way they marketed it was... It was so successful! It broke the internet! Yeah, I don't think that goes over. I just love how incensed people were Like, Netflix is shocking! I think they should be incensed. For your what? For your $15 a month and you get a free fight and then... Okay so stuff happens. Wait hold on. $15 a month you get a free fight You didn't get a free fight you paid $15 a month No but you get all-you get Netflix for $15 a month Yeah And they throw a fight in So what

03:51 You're still not getting it for free. But Mike, did you go on Twitter and go, Netflix you suck? No because you're an adult male I'm not gonna say that but exactly but but yeah, well say this Broadcasting is a better mechanism for these sorts of things Well, it's too bad that television is in the fight for its life It is too bad isn't linear broadcasts is in the fight for its life It is an anachronism of epic proportion as RFK Jr. is messing with the primal forces of nature!

04:29 I'm gonna set you up. You loved going back to that Nick... I can't help myself, I can't help myself! I don't know how many people get that gag but you keep doing it. You, Tina and me. So where someone's going hey yeah man i went and watched that movie from 1975 He is referring to network Yes, I am. I'm gonna set you up for your clips that you have here. I hope that you start with the RFK Jr And I'll set you up with something we used to do a lot back in the days. We would go to, uh... A staple actually, you would go to Inside Edition!

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump, Mar-a-Lago Gala and Cabinet Nominations

President-elect Donald Trump hosted a black-tie gala at Mar-a-Lago featuring guests such as Sylvester Stallone, Elon Musk, and Tucker Carlson. The event celebrated recent election triumphs and highlighted the growing "MAHA" (Make America Healthy Again) movement. Media coverage focused on the social dynamics of the Trump inner circle and the initial reactions to his high-profile cabinet picks.

donald trump· mar-a-lago· sylvester stallone· elon musk· robert f. kennedy jr.

05:07 We got the real news. I mean, this is like... This is the real news everybody! And now back to Real News Here we go two-parter It's a mega mega celebration A who's who of Trump world gathered at Mar-a-Lago last night for The Black Tie Gala To toast their election triumph Guess what? We've got the second George Washington Congratulations Introducing the president-elect Sylvester Stallone. He's a Trump supporter, who knew? Thank you Sly. You know Sly does not do that he doesn't do that stuff And he did a beautiful job. First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom. Did you hear that? First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom! And he did a beautiful job. First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom, who posed for a photo with Trump's ex-wife Marla Maples

05:58 Yep, even she was there. He likes this place I can't get him out of here he just likes this place Tucker Carlson was seated with RfK Jr and wife actress Cheryl Hines Also Don jr and girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoyle This is the kind of news that we want to hear from time-to-time We have all this, oh it's all bad. Oh Matt Gaetz, oh RFK Drew. No from time to time hey! Hey first buddy Elon Musk is hilarious and now of course the setup for your clips. RFK and Sheryl were popular everyone wanted to meet The Man Of The Hour. His nomination by Trump to lead the Department of Health And Human Services is causing an uproar. Frankly I find it chilling many doctors are up in arms

06:46 They say he's a vaccine skeptic with no expertise in medicine or science. Significant concerns, horror even somebody said to me today I can't think of any single individual who be more damaging to public health than RFK But Fox News is all in Tune out the noise and the hysteria He's not on a mission to ban medicine I love RFK Jr. In this position People should be excited about this Literally Lots of moms are taking to social media to celebrate RFK's vow to crack down on additives and chemicals in food. Overnight, MAGA has become MAHA, Kennedy's mantra. Make America healthy again! Trump seems to approve at least for now. I just looked at the news reports people like you Bobby don't get too popular Bobby. Since when they've become MAGA?

07:44 What's that? MAGA is MAGA. Somehow Inside Edition now calls it MAGA, it's MAGA I tell you! I can't believe... I like the way they throw this stuff out like my favorite thing is still uh as I know if it's in these clips I think maybe at one point it is uh is that Bacera, that guy who was the Attorney General of California who's the head of HHS now but he's basically a Stanford lawyer Attorney he's gotten and they say oh Kendi's got no background in health or science, which is not true But that as a lawyer has sued these guys endlessly the health of science people. That's the least of the complaints I mean

08:29 vaccine denier, conspiracy theorists crazy killing dogs and deer and bears and throw them in the park. They just keep on going! And luckily... I love the bear in the park. Luckily it keeps the culture war economy brewing everybody can go on their podcasts Yeah, legacy media is no good. They're in the fight of their lives people have some compassion for legacy media television Let's just call it television. It's not even called legacy media its television Television has a problem

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Advertising, Television Revenue Impact

The pharmaceutical industry spends an estimated $9 billion to $20 billion annually on television advertising, representing a massive portion of legacy media revenue. Critics argue that this financial dependence prevents news networks from objectively covering health and drug safety issues. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has signaled intentions to target both pharmaceutical and junk food advertising as part of his health policy.

pharmaceutical industry· television advertising· fda· junk food· revenue

09:05 Well, I think print media has got a bigger problem personally. But we've seen that already go down you know they we know that the New York Times exists because of WERDL! I mean we don't need to discuss that anymore. The cord cutting has diminished the carriage fees and now one of their biggest sources of income is under attack, but I'll let you go with your Well here we go with it. We got a guy's guide a bunch of smear smears No, well schmear is specific to yes Yeah But this is our cream cheese, but they will go with the remember where remember this show was sponsored by Israel so we'll go with smear and

09:46 A couple of things I want to note before I start playing these is that nobody will bring up the couple of topics ever Except us which is the main one is Pharmaceutical advertising on television. Yeah, that's the big one and they will net Fox doesn't bring it up Kennedy does bring it up but they don't play those clips It's just, that's the whopper because there is an estimated between I'd say nine and twenty billion dollars worth of advertising per year is spent by the pharmaceutical industry on advertisement. I would say in general if you take both sides of the equation up to 90% of advertising is covered by both junk food

10:34 that kills people and the pharmaceuticals that are supposed to keep people barely alive from eating that junk food. Interesto! And RFK Jr has both sides of that in his crosshairs We'd and nobody wants that well. Well no if you're buddy on television Let's go so I went so I got these clips from Abby Phillips There's other ones too, I think they're Caitlin Collins the ones are about Kennedy But let's play these Abbie Phillips when this is one of the shows This is one of the worst of the CNN shows now Abby Phillips. Let me think it's just a black girl who's talking about

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., CNN Health Policy Debate

CNN's Abby Phillip hosted a panel discussing the nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). While some medical professionals expressed openness to Kennedy's skepticism regarding healthcare costs and outcomes, others labeled him a dangerous vaccine skeptic. The debate centered on whether Kennedy's lack of traditional medical expertise disqualifies him from managing federal health bureaucracies.

robert f. kennedy jr.· abby phillip· cnn· hhs· vaccines

11:11 Yes, and she's got the little round table of people. And they do have one Republican on there who is quite good whose name I don't recall somebody... Isn't that Scott? What's his face? Jensen? It could be. Scott Jensen, I think He's good. He and his fights back and everybody's you know they have these arguments with each other And it's kind of it gets kind of heated, but it's pretty pretty lame generally speaking But let's but but the setup for the smears that start with clip one good evening I'm Abby Philip in New York Let's get right to what America is talking about Robert F Kennedy jr America's still talking about the price of eggs, lady. But okay... Today I nominated him for, if you like health and people that live a long time it is the most important position RFK Jr. Bobby?

11:59 He is, in fact Donald Trump's choice to run the Health and Human Services Department. HHS it is an absolute monster of a bureaucracy It administers Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare These are programs that cost trillions of dollars And impact tens of millions of Americans RFK, though is thin on the kind of experience needed to run a spelling agency. He is even thinner though on real science. RFK Jr calls his new potential gig a generational opportunity but stepping back this is the latest cabinet proclamation that has seemed to design, designed to own the libs perhaps more than promoting good government. Some of what RFK Jr says sounds okay even decent perhaps making the food supply healthier making policy to promote more exercise making the government less beholden to big pharma that's all fine and good but then there is the stuff that he wants to roll back that doesn't make much sense like mandatory vaccines in schools

13:00 I mean, do you like measles mumps? Yes. Polio What about chicken pox is great now itchy. Well all of these diseases are diseases that hardly exist thanks to mandatory vaccines and modern medicine We are joined though today at the table by two doctors dr Ian Lipkin director of the Center for infection and immunity at Columbia University And Dr. Debbie Nim I'm going to butcher her last name here, so let her say it for herself. She's an associate professor at NYU School of Medicine. Dr. Devey and Dr. Lipkin—I'm going to start with you both because

13:39 And Dr. Debbie, I'll let you start because... I don't know your last name so i'm just gonna call you dr debbie. Dr Debbie! That's what she said and by the way she- Dr Debbie never gives her last name So she keeps calling her doctor Debbie This is like you get these phone calls from these These, y'know from Punjab or wherever they are Oh Mr John! Mr John we got a deal for you! Mr John! Um..I'm upset that uh Hotez wasn't there He seems to be laying low this guy. Yeah, he better! It's probably a good idea. Now that you mention it... now that you mentioned it, he is laying low so let's go on with Dr. Debbie. Dr. Debbie thinks it's great to have a guy like Kennedy. What's the big deal?

14:26 You see something in the RFK appointment that you are fine with. Tell us what it is? Well, I think the first question is what are we trying to accomplish with health care at all which is to increase life expectancy and then when you have more years to have more quality of life within those years How's that working out? We've only gone down in life expectancy That goes beyond just vaccines That involves so many things Our biggest killers are heart disease cancer cardiovascular problems unintentional injuries and the biggest barrier for people is really health care costs. There's a direct cost where we have technology like robotics and AI, regenerative medicine but it's not accessible to people and then we have other barriers where even the people who might be able to get towards it where they have insurance they can't afford co-insurances deductibles

15:13 the indirect costs of transportation and there's various biases and disparities. So my priority would be is this person able to do that? And I think he can address some of those things, and part of it is because he expresses a degree of skepticism which I think we could use. It has been several decades that we've had poor health care outcomes compared to the amount of money that we spend on healthcare. And so maybe we can try doing something differently." I don't think this should be a dictatorship, or one person doesn't but at least we should try it. Well did she get the hook? This is not the right language! Well, they didn't need to give her the hook because then they brought this other guy this angry guy who's not a Doctor per se he's a doctor of something. Oh, oh, there's an infectious diseases expert and he's a huge vaccine nut And so he comes on immediately just goes after their real issues here which is you know Kennedy's screwy well I've been

16:11 I've been tracking his views for a long time. Speaking specifically about vaccines, there is no better bang for your buck than a vaccine. I'm older, I think than everybody else here at the table. I remember seeing kids with polio. I remember seeing measles and cephalitis. The amount of good that vaccines have done is impossible to overstate. Measles and cephalitis he said? He says he's...I don't know how old he is probably my age But I've never seen anybody with encephalitis. Have you seen, do you ever? I don't know what he's talking about. He says oh i've seen people with measles well yeah uh polio I probably have but... Encephalitis? What are you talking about? I know one guy in England who had polio as a kid one guy who still limps

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Vaccine Liability, Swine Flu and HPV Precedents

A discussion regarding the legal protections for vaccine manufacturers highlights the lack of liability for adverse reactions as a primary driver of industry profits. Historical examples, including the 1976 swine flu vaccine and the 2006 HPV vaccine rollout, are cited as instances where public health initiatives were allegedly prioritized over safety concerns. Critics argue that removing liability shields would force higher standards in vaccine processing.

vaccine liability· swine flu· hpv vaccine· pharmaceutical profits· product safety

17:03 encephalitis? Not from the same- So anyway, this guy's obviously a vaccine. Yeah let's go for him! And I think the risks associated with vaccines are vanishingly low there will always be adverse reactions... Hold on stop stop the clip! Vanishing? You have to stop these clips This one if that's all true what he says i don't have a problem with that how about the liability issues yeah if they're vanishing They're advantages you make so you don't have these sloppy. Here's the problem you have with vaccines, we just noticed this with the swine flu what 12 years ago when we were doing the show? Yep it's I looked at a live swine flu virus in the vaccine remember that one now remember twelve years ago We got all the PowerPoint presentations from a big financial investors conference for medical companies

17:58 and presentation, you can go back and listen to it. Presentation after presentation like vaccines are great why are they great? They're great because we have no liability and you're giving medicine to people who aren't sick It's a bonanza! That's how they were talking about it. Shortly after that period which we were objecting to because they were promoting it just for the profit motive. For the money, yeah! If you remember the vaccine that's to stop smoking... Stop smokin', cocaine abuse everything! These aren't vaccines they're just making this stuff, calling it a vaccine so there is no liability for their sloppy processing I mean when they had the vaccine for swine flu with the live virus too bad

18:46 And you'll remember... There's no liability. Tough! Same time, maybe... No it was about the same time 2006? Is that right? No, no. Not 2006...no 2008! The HPV vaccine and they were hanging little goodie bags on college dorm room doorknobs. Get your HPV it stops three of the 27 strains of cervical cancer. You only need two they hurt a lot in there 300 bucks a pop but get it now we saw all of this and Even I mean a lot of moms at the time are like, I'm not quite sure. I don't know but i'm just gonna hold back that's where it started and then of course we had all the injured It started with HPV you're right and that's when all the injuries came to girls walking backwards if remember that That's been debunked before come on So we have these guys pushing this

19:48 product which is fine vaccines are great but how about liability issues you can't put just dog shit in a shot call it a vaccine and too bad if you get sick this is not good thing to have no liability whatsoever. It's vanishing, its vanishing. Our vanishingly low there will always be adverse reactions to any medication or any vaccine or whatever intervention you want to pursue. But if you look on balance and what we save in the way of birth losses, encephalitis paralysis death... What is this encephalitis? There's just no question It sounds cool because most people don't know what it is If you say encephalitis oh my god he knows what he's talking about but these are beneficial And there's the mixture of I think that

20:41 The difference between what the two of you are saying is, you're talking about- It's a mixture. ... the health part of what RFK is talking about and then you're talking about the vaccines part which is completely unfounded that he's pushing all this vaccine misinformation. Separate what? The two? He's unfounded. Wait, wait... She says it's unfounded that he is pushing...? What she talking about? What kind of a sentence structure is this? I want to listen to the end there. ...part which is completely unfounded that he is pushing all these. You're talking about the health part of what RFK is talking about and then you're talking about the vaccines part which is completely unfounded that he is pushing all these vaccine misinformation It's hard to separate them

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Federal Agency Capture, RFK Jr. Reform Plans

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has pledged to "clean up" federal agencies like the CDC, FDA, and NIH, claiming they have become "sock puppets" for the industries they regulate. Opponents argue that replacing career civil servants with political appointees would destabilize public health infrastructure. Supporters maintain that previous HHS secretaries, such as Xavier Becerra and Sylvia Burwell, also lacked specific medical management backgrounds.

cdc· fda· nih· regulatory capture· robert f. kennedy jr.

21:22 Yeah, her structure is a little off because she's really saying he's right. Unfounded vaccine misinformation! What? Well she says... She's on CNN! She's a dipshit Hey she's got a popular show at least 400 000 people watch I doubt it all right Onward to clip four. I just want to play a little bit about what RFK has said about the agencies that make up a big chunk of the health care infrastructure in this country, the NIH, the CDC and the FDC. Our big priority will be to clean up the public health agencies like CDC, NIH, FDA and U.S Department of Agriculture. Those agencies have become sock puppets

22:07 the industries that they're supposed to regulate. President Trump and I are going to replace the corrupt industry captured officials with honest public servants, we're gonna steer resources to meet our nation's biggest health challenge which is chronic disease These are incredibly, here's the thing. There might be capture with whatever you want to call it industry capture of these agencies those are incredibly broad statements for agencies that are by and large focused on keeping Americans safe and are doing those are doing that job every single day That's right And against a backdrop of the time when those agency work has been politicized demonised in many cases

22:49 against the backdrop of an administration or President Trump saying that he actually wants to clear out nonpartisan public servants and replace them with partisan apparatchiks. So those two things are in tension, and then there's this look if you want to care about regulatory capture there's any number different people who could deal with those issues You know with regard to chronic illness But if you want to actually raise life expectancy I think vaccines do a pretty good job of adjusting that curve upward And you can't take this a la carte. You picking him is an intentional choice where personnel is policy and because he's got a long record of being a crank on issues related to vaccines, that takes any of the positive good that you're trying to suggest he might do which could be done by any number of other people instead you have to own that who was speaking here

23:30 Who is that? This is some other guy. I mean, what credentials does he have to say he's a... I'm talking about apparatchiks That guy is the CNN commentator He works for CNN Oh okay So he's delivering the goods there for the CNN Now they had the guy The only one counterargument comes up in the kicker here And he pushes back on the guy and the whole thing falls apart at the very end. If we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good reason why Bobby... Why be intellectually honest? What kind of question is that?! Have you ever in a conversation with anyone in your life face to face said if we're being intellectually honest

24:14 No. Of course not! This is why people like podcasts, because this kind of dumb language doesn't pop up. If we're being intellectually honest there's really no good reason why Bobby Kennedy RFK Jr should be HHS secretary an advisor a confidant somebody who talks to the president and advises but there's no managerial experience in his resume There's nothing that says he is qualified to do this job What? There's no managerial experience on his resume? That's not true. I don't believe that's true either, but continue. But there is no managerial experience in his resume. There is nothing that says he is qualified to do this job- Let's see his resume This job that is in charge of the health of all of us All these different lanes If he has views and has insights around food sources Around vaccines Then those should be given an advisory roles Why Well because What were the qualifications of the previous ones Well I think it's important always remember Management qualifications

25:13 What were the management qualifications? I mean Xavier Becerra... I'm not talking about the previous one. I'm looking forward to it. But you're calling into question whether he could actually do this job and I think it's important to discuss because Xavier Becerra was just a lawyer and politician with no management experience. Sylvia Burwell was a Walmart lobbyist, Donna Shalala was a university person R.F.K Jr is a nut. Okay, so that's different than what you just said... He doesn't possess the requisite managerial experience but then we get to the real issue here which is you want to insult the man? Yeah! Oh he's a nut come on that's what we do this is no CNN

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Autism Rates, JAMA Study and Vaccine Correlation

A recent study published in JAMA indicates that autism rates rose significantly between 2011 and 2022, prompting calls for an independent task force to investigate environmental causes. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. continues to highlight the correlation between the expanded childhood vaccine schedule and the rise in autism diagnoses. Media figures frequently cite the discredited Wakefield paper to dismiss these concerns, while others call for new, transparent scientific research.

autism· jama· robert f. kennedy jr.· andrew wakefield· caitlin collins

25:52 So it boils down, this guy has his own you know, we're going to be intellectually honest. Blah blah blah. He's a nut! That's what it boils down to. His opinion is he's a nut. All right I got a couple of clips. Before you play that just play this Caitlin Collins the first one here says smear Caitlyn Collins. I want to see what this is about? Does that not make you concerned that children would be less safe if Robert F Kennedy Jr was running the Department of Health and Human Services? Well, as I said. I think there's some tremendous positive things like focusing on chronic diseases in children But of course i'm concerned about vaccines what? I hope uh, mr. Kennedy would do it is a What this is a different show this is caitlin college show here And you have another guy just that it's all about vaccines. This is the vaccine industrial complex Yeah Uh, but of course i'm concerned about vaccines what I hope

26:47 Mr. Kennedy would do and it is a fact that the rates of autism have gone up just this week, a study was published in JAMA that depending on the age groups between 2011 and 2022 Autism rates have gone up as much as 450 percent As a pediatrician and scientist I can say that's not because of vaccines Yeah, but that is not due to vaccines. So I would hope he would commission an independent task force best scientist. Put the NICDC on it. She interrupts him and says it's not due to vaccines. He says yes, not do the vaccine. There was nothing in that research that says it's not vaccines. Why are they saying? It is this like this is a

27:32 This is them hoping to God that the drug companies don't stop advertising or can't, or forced to stop advertising on their network. CNN has lots of drug ads! They all have lots of drug ads... Yes they all do you're right they all have lots of drugs as this is a disservice to the American public these shows I'm shocked. It's a disservice, oh no! But that is not due to vaccines so i would hope he would commission an independent task force best scientist... Best price? Best scientists?! We need best scientists! Commission an independent task force best scientist put the NIH and the CDC on this to say you know in 12-18 months what

28:20 are the likely causes of autism. We know it's going up, I can say i know it's not vaccines but let's get some true scientific information independent of industry manipulation to understand what's going on that's what I hope he will do of course I don't know that Yeah, I mean again he's a grown man. He has articulated these views time and time again. I have not heard him moderate them maybe he is because he knows he's about to face a tough confirmation process we'll see Admiral thank you doctor as well great to have you both here By the way, Caitlin Collins is the most severe looking woman on television. And three million dollars a year she's a three million dollar woman so what they keep referring to is the Wakefield paper and this was also something that had already started before we started the show and I recall that

29:15 that, that discreditation of the Wakefield paper was later somewhat overturned. Yes But but it wasn't that his science was wrong It was that there were some payoffs someone got paid to do something I don't remember exactly There was some corruption involved There was some corruption involved but not even necessarily anything that had to do with the science itself. And so for this guy to say, well we should probably check it out that autism let's see if there's something to it! Okay... So all Kennedy is doing, which of course is correlation not causation. Is he saying when I was a kid we had three vaccines and one in 10,000 had autism now you got 76 vaccines and one in three kids has autism? Just paraphrasing these numbers here so I'll stick with Caitlin Collins and will go with the former CDC director

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump, McDonald's and Secret Service Food Safety

Donald Trump reportedly prefers fast food from McDonald's because the random nature of the purchase makes it difficult for potential assassins to poison his meals. Unlike formal dinners at restaurants like Chez Panisse, which require extensive Secret Service kitchen sweeps, fast food provides a layer of security through anonymity. This habit was highlighted during a recent flight where Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. were seen eating Big Macs.

donald trump· mcdonald's· secret service· food poisoning· e. coli

30:11 who just spouts the most unbelievable nonsense about vaccines in general. This is great, this is great! And that's really the question here... when he IS talking about that, that is often what we hear cited from people who say I'm excited for this pick because he wants to who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier but then you also hear him saying... Notice by the way they have no problem throwing the food industry under the bus. Because it's a much smaller portion of the advertising, By the way I thought it was hilarious I love that President Trump is keeping RFK Jr. close at hand, he needs the protection. I'd say RFK Jr.'s the most dangerous man and the most hunted man in America right now and the first buddy! And they're all on the plane...and they're all eating a McDonald's It's like it's kind of funny, we'll make America healthy again let's have some Big Macs on the 757 You know why he does that? Why he eats at McDonald's

31:09 Because it's good? Well, that's not true. It tastes good?! No! I give up. It doesn't taste good... no he had made the determination years ago that because and i know this- For a fact! What? You know it for a fact whatever it is you're going to say. I kind of know it for a fact. It's because he can get..he doesn't have to clear it through the Secret Service, The Food Oh, interesting. See when Bill Clinton was in Berkeley recently... not recently when he was president and he went to Chez Panisse and I knew the maitre d' there and he told me that the Secret Service came in there to check out the food they had to check out who is cooking it they had do all these things to make sure that didn't poison him so when Trump just buys random Big Mac's from a random McDonald's

32:01 It's automatically cleared by the Secret Service. They don't have to go through all the rigmarole, so he ends up eating a lot of fast food Well that puts a whole new slant on the E. coli in McDonalds quarter pounders doesn't it? Could've been could have been the fourth assassination attempt That is an interesting point I never thought of that but yes from California hmm No, that's you know a guy of Trump's age E. coli could have been... Yeah, E. coli would be a killer. I'm just saying. All right we continue with the former CDC director Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier but then you also hear him saying things like linking vaccines to autism in children which was debunked and you know what? I'd think that if you want to say this Caitlin Collins $3 million woman

32:52 You can't say debunked, you have to say it was scientifically proven incorrect. But she can't say that because I don't think there's ever been any study since the Wakefield papers... ...that have actually studied properly see your previous clip of the same guy who said yeah we should probably study that! You think? Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier. But then you also hear him saying things like linking vaccines to autism in children, which was debunked and this isn't something that happened before and he's changed his mind on it because the transition co-chair Howard Lutnick who is running this met with RFK Jr in the lead up to the election I had him sitting here

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Vaccine Efficacy, Herd Immunity and COVID-19 Logic

The logic of mandatory vaccination is questioned regarding whether vaccines are intended to protect the individual or the community through "sterilizing immunity." Critics of current policy argue that if a vaccine is effective, an individual's protection should not depend on the status of those around them. This debate has intensified following the public's experience with COVID-19 vaccine mandates and shifting definitions of "protection."

herd immunity· covid-19· measles· public health· mandatory vaccines

33:35 After a two hour meeting with R.K Jr, listen to what he said to me. And what he explained was when he was born we had three vaccines and autism was one in 10 thousand now our baby's born with 76 vaccines I mean he was able to convince the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald who later said he believes in the science of vaccines He was pushing things that are not true about vaccines. And being the HHS secretary, people trust you. You have a platform. Wait for this science! Tell me how this science works that this former CDC director is going to explain to us about vaccines? Receiving vaccines would be parental choice

34:16 scares me. You know, one of the things that we... Because we need the money! ...have in America is a contract between each other and an important part of that public health is vaccination I vaccinate my children to protect them but also to protect other people's children Huh? Well do they work or do they not work This is the thing that they did with the COVID vaccine. So you vaccinate your child to protect your children, which is fine if you want to do that. You can cut off their nuts if you want—to use a John C. Duvorak-ism—so if you wanna vaccinate them, that's fine but how does it protect other children? I mean does it stop the spread? Does it not give your child

35:06 I mean, i don't understand. If they work then you don't have to worry about other children do you? But also to protect other people's children You know sending a child to school You need to have that confidence that the child sitting next to them isn't going to give them measles or whooping cough because their parent decided that they didn't want to get their child vaccinated because they're hearing all of this misinformation. We vaccinate our kids, because we care about our children are families in our community." I don't understand the logic it's the same with a COVID vaccine you vaccinate your child to protect your child if you believe that that's going to protect your child

35:44 But now it's like, no. No I do that so that it won't give it to another unvaccinated child This is not science So let's bring in a scientist Dr. Celine Gounder You know her from CBS She is one of America's favorite doctors So Dr. Gounder as a health professional What is your reaction? To this pic and what you make of his credentials Many of us are concerned that he doesn't have the medical, the scientific or the public health credentials for this job. Now that said... Oh! He has credentials is not the ones you like There have been lawyers including the current HHS secretary Javier Becerra who had held that position What is critical in those situations Your point Is somebody who knows they don't know everything about

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Major Questions Doctrine, Supreme Court and Agency Power

Legal experts are monitoring the "Major Questions Doctrine," a Supreme Court principle that limits the authority of federal agencies to decide issues of vast economic or political significance without clear Congressional authorization. This doctrine, alongside the overturning of Chevron deference, could significantly impact Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s ability to unilaterally reform the FDA or CDC. The shift represents a broader effort to return regulatory power to the legislative branch.

major questions doctrine· chevron deference· supreme court· administrative state· rfk jr.

36:33 health care, public health science and that they're willing to talk to experts. To take their counsel and advice. And what is concerning is that RFK Jr has been very vocal about not trusting scientific experts technical experts in these spaces. In fact he said he would like to get rid of civil service bureaucrats who have been lifelong expert working these agencies who are also the ones by the way you know how to actually get things done Okay, what she's really talking about is... What? Oh yeah. Now she's really talking about it. You know it's one of those deep state things again So these lifelong experts work at the Centers for Disease Control They work at the Food and Drug Administration They work in the National Institutes of Health

37:21 health. What are the implications if they're removed? Can they be removed and how does that impact the health of Americans? Well, this is part of what Trump has also been saying that he would like to do is get rid of quote The Deep State much of which is these career bureaucrats for lack of a better word but really these civil servants who dedicated their careers to working in the public's interest So, without that layer of people, without these kinds of scientific and technical experts we could really find ourselves in trouble. So what are some of the specific issues RFK has been wanting to take on? For example- and I think this is one that many health professionals are actually in favor

38:06 better regulating our food supply, in particular food additives, preservatives, ultra-processed foods. But you actually need to know how to navigate the science, how to navigate the law and get that done, you would really need to have Congress on board. Congress may have to grant some additional authorities particularly given some of the decisions made by the Supreme Court in recent years, the major questions doctrine for example And without the right backup, scientific backup it's going to be very difficult for him to get that done. She says something very interesting here which I caught only the second time I listened to this clip she is talking about doctrine now in one case she is saying she mentioning kind of without saying it the Chevron deference but then she said the major questions doctrine

38:54 which is another form, which I hadn't heard of. And luckily we have our constitutional lawyer who's going to help us with this but this is another it's another version of deference like Chevron deference. I think they call the clear statement rule When the agency asserts it has authority to decide major questions, court should independently determine whether the agency's interpretation of its statutory authority is the most reasonable reading of the statute. That's Chevron deference under this major questions, the doctrine says that courts must not interpret statutes as delegating major questions to agencies unless Congress clearly said so. So she is on the inside somehow and already knows that this is where it's going to go towards and probably another Supreme Court ruling about this major-questions doctrine which is new for me! We're gonna get the skinny on this

39:54 She'll wrap it up by telling you, you're stupid. You don't know what you're talking about Don't you dare try and research anything yourself And measles will kill your child Let me talk to you about this The CDC and World Health Organization said on Thursday that global measles cases surged by more than 20% last year Of what? I'm doing a John Cena work Did it go to 20, 200, 2000? Of what? We don't know. We don't know. Cases surged by more than twenty percent last year. Ten to twelve. Seven thousand people mostly young children died from the disease

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Measles Outbreaks, Natural Immunity and Research Methods

The CDC and WHO reported a 20% surge in global measles cases, leading to renewed debates over vaccine advocacy versus natural immunity. Some argue that childhood experiences with measles and mumps provided robust lifelong immunity, while modern health officials emphasize the "umbrella theory" of population-wide protection. The discussion also critiques the modern definition of "doing research," contrasting Google searches with the formal scientific method.

measles· natural immunity· cdc· world health organization· scientific method

40:38 We just heard how Kennedy feels about the measles vaccine in particular. We also know that the measles vaccine is highly effective at preventing death from measles, really? So what kind of effect might Kennedy's advocacy even though he says that people should be allowed to make their own decision about taking vaccines? I just have a question My impression of the measles vaccine, which I didn't receive. I got measles. They got chicken pox. I got the mumps in my lifetime And not an oil now we're not super old and we've been around for a bit But I've had all three myself yeah, oh he didn't have a vaccine for it wasn't the point of the vaccine Well you won't get it and now it's like know you won't die from it This is this is the kovat speak again

41:25 Yeah, COVID speak. I like COVID speak. What do you think the actual implications...the impact that will have on... Oh wait a second! I just want to mention something. You know the COVID thing was always well I got sick but I would have gotten sicker if I hadn't had this. There's no way of proving that? No no and you can't prove a negative Or some smart saying like that. What what do you think the actual implications the impact? That will have on On what is really for health professionals a concerning trend When we when we're talking about me here comes couple things one He made a comment that the measles vaccine does not induce sterilizing immunity that in fact is also

42:11 the more reason you need the population immunity. Think of it as you're holding an umbrella by yourself... Hold on a second, so she's going to agree here that it doesn't make you sterile from measles? Doesn't completely 100% Save you from getting it, but now she's gonna say we all need a little bit of protection to protect everybody else Not induce sterilizing immunity that in fact is all the more reason you need the population immunity Think of it as You're holding an umbrella by yourself In a storm versus your in a crowd of people all of them with overlapping umbrellas. You're gonna be way drier in that crowd of umbrellas

42:50 And that's essentially what kind of an analogy is this vaccine umbrella theory. Surely you've heard of it. It's actually seen umbrella and be way drier in that crowd of umbrellas, and that's essentially what we try to do with the means bumping into umbrellas is which are going to be doing vaccine now. It's very concerning because fact is most people do not have the expertise Googling by the way, is not doing research that is in general confirm any biases emotions you might have had Science is when you formulate a hypothesis, excuse me, a hypothesis. You experiment to test the hypothesis. You understand how to distinguish between causation and correlation. You understand that you have to repeat experiments time and again to make sure your result is not just a fluke, statistical fluke.

43:38 coincidence. You mean like climate change nonsense? That is science, what people do when they go on Google that is not science and that is not doing research so what's happening as people are confirming these emotional reactions and I think that is what it will drive a lot of the decision-making So notice that they've completely moved away from the actual issue which is, and she didn't give us any data for that. I didn't hear Caitlin or any... No, not Caitlin the CBS Morning team say well autism has gone down since we've had the measles vaccine Autism is diminishing because it's not Or say hey maybe autism is caused by something else

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

The Brady Bunch, 1970s Cultural Views on Measles

A 1969 episode of *The Brady Bunch* titled "Is There a Doctor in the House?" depicted the measles as a routine, non-threatening childhood illness that resulted in a few days off from school. This cultural artifact is used to illustrate how public perception of certain diseases has been transformed by the pharmaceutical industry over the last fifty years. In the episode, the children are shown being happy to have the illness to avoid school, with no mention of medical fear.

the brady bunch· measles· television history· pharmaceutical industry· cultural shift

44:22 They don't have any research on that, so they don't talk about it. So they're... what is that? What do you call that? The Overton window or they're moving the goalposts there. They're distracting me by moving the goal posts. It's unbelievable! I have now I have some and then they are so arrogant about it Oh, you know You just go on Google you think you doing research Well if you google research papers and read few research papers That kind of doing research seems to be Are you scientist?! I am actually. I can claim to be a scientist, I was a chemist professionally...professionally Hey! I believe you i'm just saying that you need to be quiet now before I get to my killer clips but I want to remind everybody of the 1970s TV series The Brady Bunch Hi Peter what are you doing home from school? They sent me home

45:17 Measles. I see their measles are a strange case of red freckles You have got a temperature They told me 101 point one What's the record? Never mind Are you sure it is the measles Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature a lot of dots and a great big smile! A great big smile? No school for a few days. Say hello to my dotted son for me tell him I'll bring him some comic books and i'll see you later dear Okay honey bye Boy this is the life isn't it yeah if you have to get sick sure can beat the measles that's right no medicine inside or out like shots in me don't even mention shots yech! Measles

45:56 Measles. Measles! Well, all the kids have now had the measles So have I Well i've had them years ago Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles Hold it Go Alice You're not through yet Alice don't tell me you're coming down with the measles Oh I hope so...I'd hate to think that I was just learning how to blush at my age I can't even believe if that still runs on television anywhere. Could you imagine the pharmaceutical industry noticing a Brady Bunch kid saying, ooh, I hate shots? No! No no no. So I have the three clips here—they're all relatively short of RFK Jr himself speaking—I believe this was an interview done while he was at Mar-a-Lago

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Direct-to-Consumer Advertising, RFK Jr. Executive Action

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has suggested that the President could use executive authority to ban or severely restrict direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising on television. Currently, the United States and New Zealand are the only countries that allow such marketing. While such a move might face First Amendment challenges, Kennedy argues that the FDA has the power to tighten regulations on how drug information is presented to the public.

robert f. kennedy jr.· fda· pharmaceutical ads· executive order· first amendment

46:51 This is why he is the most dangerous man in America today and must be protected at all costs. Reason number one, I'm not intimidated by the agencies. I know how they work and I know how to change them and most of those changes you do not need Congress for The president President Trump could have done it had the power to do it himself And President Biden has the power to do that himself and I'll give you an example with a stroke of the pen You can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct-to-consumer ads on television. That's one of the big problems, that's why one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture not only of Congress because they control the airwaves they control evening news 75% of their revenues for those evening news shows are you know Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies so

47:46 And those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate the official narratives. And they're able then to exercise huge control over Congress, so Congress is terrified of them but with a stroke in the pen you can say this is not good for the health of our country which it isn't we spend three times more than any other country for pharmaceutical drugs because all this advertising. There's number one now I looked it up I know, just because i do google searches doesn't mean im a lawyer. It is actually more powerful for the secretary of health and human services to direct the FDA to change the rules of television advertising which have changed all the time go ahead where'd you get that clip

48:36 It's the... oh, what's her name? It's a clip of the day type clip but it didn't show up on the media. This is nothing that media is going to play where did you get it? No no this is uh what's your name um she does She's brunette, dark hair. It's usually a tight shot. She's a brunette with dark hair? Wow! Yeah it's dark hair and she does the tight shot. She does this kind of stuff all the time. Oh somebody help me out please Is is a podcaster or is she what? Well I think she used to work for The Hill and then she left...I'll figure it out

49:13 The point is, it's RFK Jr. telling you what he's going to do... Yeah I'm just trying to know how this clip came about. Okay hold on! He says this all the time but this was my point earlier which is that this has never played on the media because heaven forbid someone gets a clue and stops this advertising Oh no, this is never going to happen No, it wasn't on television. Oh man... Normally I tag my clips but it was an embedded video and so that's why- But I recognized her I will get you that information. So it was not on, she has a big show but it's not... Well I don't care yeah it's not that important the clip itself is important Yes okay and so it is actually less powerful if the president does this immediately left judges who have federal judges who will be filing complaints and stays but the FDA they are the ones that can tighten regulations they could make it so difficult

50:09 Because they actually just implemented a new rule in I think March of this year about the affordability and how you present that information here. What is it? I have it here. And while you're looking for that up, I want to mention that there's only two countries in the world that allow this kind prescription drug advertising. Yes, that's the United States and New Zealand nobody else allows it because of its ability to corrupt the system it corrupts the system directly this is from the from FDA and this implements as May 20, 2024. Just an example of what the FDA can do direct-to-consumer prescription drug advertisements presentation of the major statement in a clear conspicuous and neutral manner in advertisements on television or radio format so they are completely telling drug companies how they need to speak in their advertisements So if you have the president do this

51:08 I think he get immediately into First Amendment with the right, you know the whole bunch of distraction where and maybe that's why he's saying it but i think Kennedy himself can direct the FDA to direct the pharmaceutical companies to say stuff like we don't actually know if it works but try it anyway. You know that...I think he can make them do that. I think they should make them take these ads off If they even do that, it's not going to help. Well I understand what you're saying and i'm just looking at a pragmatically but this is as he said 75% of the budget comes from pharmaceutical advertising I think that's probably close to it and we know that many CNN in particular has a lot of Pfizer connections now we go to

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

The View, Salary Disparities and Major Questions

A discussion regarding the hosts of *The View* highlights a reported salary gap between Joy Behar, who earns $7 million, and Sunny Hostin, who earns $1.5 million. This disparity is used to mock liberal talking points regarding "equal pay for equal work." Additionally, constitutional lawyer Rob Kashian provided a brief analysis of the Major Questions Doctrine, emphasizing the need for Congress to reclaim its legislative duties.

the view· joy behar· sunny hostin· salary gap· rob kashian

55:09 And they can figure it out. No, they can't their dog like cutting the budgets on some and whoopie goldberg at six million dollars Enjoy Bay are getting seven million dollars and here's the other thing that's funny Joy Behar and then you have that that other what's-the-name of the woman? Who is the Spanish girl who thinks she's black? Sunny Hauston gets 1.5 million, Joy Behar gets 7 million dollars for doing the same job! Where is this idea of the job equality? You're supposed to get paid for doing the same job, the same amount isn't that one of the big precepts of the whole liberal notion

55:52 Did you get paid the same job, same pay? Why come those two aren't getting the same amount of money. What's the deal?" Good point! Well after all Sonny's forefathers were slave owners so she needs to get dinged Rob, our constitutional lawyer sends me a quick little note. Good summary of the major questions doctrine when you're ready I'm hiring you all right? I have an exit strategy. I'm gonna become a lawyer He says it's all about the separation of powers Congress needs to do its freaking job and quit abdicating Okay We'll get a deeper analysis than that that is off-the-cuff Quick analysis. He's listening in the chat room! Oh no, this is DM baby I have a hotline you kidding me? He's gotta be listening somewhere... he is! ...in the stream yeah but he DMs me live oh yeah well that's what he's not gonna do it there being a troll obviously what's gonna happen there is going to get lost in the shuffle he's above the trolls

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Tulsi Gabbard, DNI Nomination and Intelligence Community

The nomination of Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence (DNI) has sparked intense backlash from former intelligence officials like John Brennan and John Bolton. Critics cite her past meetings with Bashar al-Assad and her skepticism of U.S. involvement in Syria as evidence of her being "unqualified." Supporters argue that her role is to provide a check on the "protection racket" of the intelligence community and ensure the President receives unbiased information.

tulsi gabbard· john brennan· dni· intelligence community· syria

56:48 We haven't checked in with NPR. We need to hear what our national treasurer thinks of all this Donald Trump is also nominating Robert F Kennedy Jr., to head the Department of Health and Human Services If confirmed by the Senate, Kennedy would oversee nearly $2 trillion dollars in mandatory spending and agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention And The Food and Drug Administration NPR's Stephen Fowler says Kennedy is a vaccine skeptic who has promoted conspiracy theories about health care. If he is confirmed by the Senate, the role gives Kennedy the chance to actualize a vision that often at odds with mainstream health and science likely through a combination of scaling back existing programs and refocusing others to align with his quote make America healthy again goals

57:36 He told NPR that the government isn't going to take away vaccines from anybody, but said the science on vaccine safety has huge deficits. Vaccine experts disagree with that assessment I just disagree. Final clip for me on RFK Jr., and then I think we need to move on to your next series of clips, to our next schmears. Now let's go straight to the source Anderson Cooper 360 he would never And he just did. As in, Donald Trump would never put Robert F Kennedy Jr., a vaccine skeptic and COVID conspiracy theorist, in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services. He would never! Well...he just did. He just picked RFK Jr not for the advisory role that some had expected but for full Monty

58:23 to run a department overseeing the National Institutes of Health, Centers for Disease Control, the FDA, Medicare. All of it and more! Kennedy is well known for backing the long debunked claim that childhood vaccines cause autism he has also promoted conspiracy theories It's interesting that they're digging so deep, they're digging for the clip that we gave up on because we couldn't make it audible enough. COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately. COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people.

59:13 The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese. So Kennedy subsequently denied he had ever suggested that the COVID virus was, quote, targeted to spare Jews Instead, Kennedy claimed he had meant to say the United States and other governments were developing quote ethically targeted bioweapons which is another conspiracy theory. He is also known for encounters with wildlife whether it's chainsawing the head off a dead whale 30 years ago and strapping it onto the family car or a decade ago picking up a bear cub carcass intended take it home to eat but then dumping in New York Central Park instead when his day ran long. Oh no! This guy's a kook get him out

59:52 He's a kook, I tell you. He's a kook! I am so happy about this. This is going to become a huge battle in the Senate. You're going to see the senators that have sold out the big pharma and the vaccine non-liability group You're going to see the corrupt senators are going to all show their faces and they're going to all be... This is gonna be interesting because there's lots of them. I think you have to- And your point, and your ...I'm sorry interrupt, but your point is so well made and we'd have to keep hammering on it if it's so good these vaccines then you don't need immunity that's it! That's it! I mean do you want to advertise? Then accept uh then accept your product liability

1:00:47 There you go, that's the way to play it. It's so good! And also it sets them right in the crosshairs by saying... You want to inject this into our kids, some of them even the day they're born I think even or maybe within a week. If it's so good then you should accept product liability otherwise you shouldn't be advertising on television that's it! It's that simple and I was talking to... I don't think he has anything to do with advertising they should be able to accept product liability for any product that sold to the public. I was talking to my buddy the ER doctor and he says

1:01:25 He believes that when RFK Jr. is done, and he's big on RFK Jr., when RFK Jr. is done, he believes that there will be many pediatricians who will commit suicide when they learn that they have severely hurt hundreds, if not thousands of their young patients just because they didn't question the science. They just believed what was being told because they're not all evil and also it makes up 40% of the revenue of most pediatricians so the whole practice will be I mean it'll be over...it's just upended

1:02:07 But he said, I know so many doctors even in his own family. He said if they find out that these vaccines were really hurting their patients they need to be put on suicide watch They will feel so horrible about this So let's just give these doctors a little bit of the benefit because what do they know? This is what you're taught shut up diagnose prescribe It's on the schedule Do what your supposed to do government knows best So there's a lot of changes coming. I hope we'll see you can keep them alive and keep them alive. I am not convinced that any changes are coming personally, I know but your just miss Daisy optimism so that's... I am! Let's schmear Tulsi

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

John Bolton, Tulsi Gabbard and "Fart Sniffer" Anecdote

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton appeared on CNN to criticize Tulsi Gabbard's fitness for the DNI role, calling her views "bizarre." During the segment, an unverified and humorous anecdote was recalled regarding Bolton's alleged past social habits in New York. The discussion framed Bolton's opposition as part of a broader "deep state" resistance to Trump's unconventional cabinet appointments.

john bolton· tulsi gabbard· cnn· kaitlyn collins· anecdote

1:02:56 Well, the next one that come along... I mean we could go through these all different people. There's Hank Seth there's a bunch of these but the only ones I collect are... Tulsi is interesting. Yeah, Tulsi is interesting. Tulsi is a good one because they have they really want to get her she uh just the stuff that they come in this Caitlin Collins again the lipless Caitlin Collins She has no lips you know? Uh yeah, I do actually. Got kind of a slit for a mouth We need another, the lipless wonder. The lipless... we need something with an L. The lipless loudmouth and we got to work on it. We'll work on it. She's terrible but this is the Tulsi CNN Kaitlyn Collins Donald Trumps picked over 18 different agencies once introduced legislation to keep the CIA from operating in Syria

1:03:48 said she would have dropped the charges against both Julian Assange, who published military secrets and Edward Snowden, the former CIA contractor. Did you notice that what she just said there? He published military secrets Oh, you mean like Pentagon papers I mean she just glosses over that That's exactly what he did. It is called journalism? And Edward Snowden, the former CIA contractor who leaked intelligence in 2013 Tulsa Gabbard has supported a conspiracy theory that the US was helping Ukraine develop biological weapons Russian state TV recently referred to her as quote our girlfriend But Gabbard and Trump have not always seen eye to eye, I should note. In 2017 when she met with the Syrian president Bashar al-Assad while Trump was ordering airstrikes on Syrian targets She also disagreed when Trump didn't act in response to the murder of The Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi Oh! Didn't read, didn't respond No good

1:04:46 All those things sound good to me. I mean she you know Snowden was a whistleblower basically for you know, they're spying on us None of this stuff is good But she's defending all the bad stuff but but then we go to clip two here and this is just the beginning It's only an eight second, but it introduces an ask Adam Oh Answer the question go alright clip first Yeah, clip two. She also once accused Trump of being quote Saudi Arabia's bitch. My inside source was Trump's longest serving national security adviser. Who said that? Hold on I want to hear that clip again! She also once accused Trump of being quote Saudi Arabia's bitch my inside source was Trump's longest serving national security adviser. Longest serving national security advisor the question is who was that yeah

1:05:40 Who's she gonna bring on the show is the point. Oh, who is she? To back up all these claims of hers and the fact that Tulsi's a horrible person who's she gonna bring on? The Fart Sniffer... what's his name?... the mustache man Boom Bolton wait no just so we understand there There was a story that we've discussed that he would go to some club in New York where they would sniff each other's farts Am I am i recalling this incorrectly? I don't remember that particularly thing, but he looks like the type. I Think that's the discussion we had It looks like the type yes alright fart sniffer on deck

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Chris Wright, Department of Energy and Climate Policy

Donald Trump nominated Liberty Energy CEO Chris Wright to lead the Department of Energy, signaling a sharp pivot toward fossil fuels and fracking. Wright has publicly stated that there is no "climate crisis," directly contradicting the stance of outgoing Secretary Jennifer Granholm. The transition is expected to focus on deregulation and expanding U.S. energy production, particularly in oil-rich regions like North Dakota.

chris write· department of energy· fracking· climate change· jennifer granholm

1:06:20 that On the director of national intelligence position specifically, when you were there what was Trump's relationship like with his last DNI? Well that the DNI who was there when I was there was Dan Coats and as with Dan and CIA Director Gina Haspel he was in constant confrontation with him. He didn't trust the intelligence community. He thought it was conspiring against him

1:07:00 uh... and and really i tried to suppress things that that he didn't like uh... you know that's that's uh... that's what i donald trump and i think the nomination of tulsi gabbert shows but this is his his effort to interfere in the work of intelligence community specifically where it affects him that this is not about some broad conspiracy to politicize intelligence this is about protection racket for donald trump Wow. Jeez! This guy... This guy is amazing He's amazing, he's the worst I think that- I mean and of course Trump was talked into hiring him and it was just a biggest mistake Let's go to clip 4

1:07:44 a protection racket for Donald Trump. How so? Well, I think he expects Tulsi Gabbard when she has to testify in Congress to look out for his interest. Uh...I think that uh...that the demonstrated that at the end of this term and releasing classified information that uh... that he felt supported his case on various allegations that had been made against him. I think Tulsi Gabbard is utterly unqualified to have any connection with the intelligence community whatsoever... What? Did she hear your laugh tale? Oh yeah, I heard it. ...had been made against him. I think Tulsi Gabbard is utterly unqualified to have any connection with the intelligence community whatsoever and views that she's expressed

1:08:32 including, for example, saying of Donald Trump himself that he committed an illegal and unconstitutional act of war when he ordered the elimination of Qasem Soleimani. Her views are not extreme they're bizarre and to put somebody like that in possession ultimately of any secret the United States has that she wants to know about is comfort to our adversaries and should be alarming to Americans. And when you talk about her testifying, the Director of National Intelligence and other top officials testify at these You know, annual worldwide threat assessment hearings on Capitol Hill. I remember when Dan Coats was testifying and he was talking about Russia's attempts to spy to interfere in US elections and someone called me said you could hear Trump screaming from the West Wing because he was so angry about what Dan Coates was testifying about. I mean how dramatically reshaped do you think the intelligence community looks under under a Trump administration if Tulsi Gabbard is confirmed here?

1:09:34 Do you think that anyone except us really cares about watching what they're doing here? If you just flip in channels and you see that mustache, are you gonna stop like oh hold on a second. They gotta watch this. No it's just us. Okay I just want to make sure it's just us. Yeah onward This is the kicker or do you want to set it up? Uh there was some... You can't remember what the kicker was It doesn't say kicker on here so it's not much of a kicker. Oh, okay well here we go If we're being intellectually honest there is really no good or bad... I'm sorry! I am looking at the wrong one You did that on purpose No i did not do that on purpose No, I'm sorry you are right no kicker Well I think it will be a point of open warfare its one of the areas like the defense department like the justice department in particular where Trump has the biggest axe to grind and

1:10:30 reason among, for all the criticism of all these Trump appointments that are coming you know people in the Senate are only going to have a limited number of opportunities and while I know some would say oppose every one of them. You need to pick your targets here because because the political pressure to confirm Trump's appointees is is gonna be very intense and I do think presidents are entitled to deference. I think the confirmation process has gotten out of hand, but deference doesn't mean obeisances and in the cases of Gabbard and Gates in particular they are well outside any conceivable norms for

1:11:12 competence and character. So I think the priority ought to be safeguard our national secrets by rejecting Tulsi Gabbard, and protect the rule of law by rejecting Matt Gaetz if you can achieve those two things and people want to go after other targets...be my guest! Oh goodness who's he taking money from? Who pays that guy?! That's a good question. He's got to be in some think tank somewhere making some dough on something, it's gotta be. Well he did that book but that book didn't sell. It was not making royalties. Doesn't mean they didn't... Yeah they could have given him big up front as possible bribe. Something like that hmm I have one Tulsi smear clip

1:11:57 I think this is the money shot. I think it's the one that matters because who did MSNBC bring on? He's a contributor, he's involved in the intelligence community Ask John Brennan. Well, Nicole I think you and Tom Nichols have done a great job just underscoring all the concerns that people have about this appointment and clearly Tulsi Gabbard has taken actions and made statements over the past several years that really raised serious questions about her common sense, her judgment as well as her political sympathies posing up to Putin as well as to maybe with Bashar Assad, I think really does show that she doesn't have the type of perspective that is needed for somebody who's going to head up these 18 intelligence agencies.

1:12:44 And as Tom Nichols said, she doesn't have any qualifications. The Director of National Intelligence that's a really serious position and a very complex and complicated one that requires somebody who actually has an understanding of the intelligence community it's like an orchestra conductor of all the different agencies and departments that are involved in the intelligence process. And I don't think she understands even with the instruments that are involved in this orchestra, no one has had any experience at the strategic level of running and leading a large complex organization And the Director of National Intelligence is, according to legislation, the President's principal intelligence advisor. The person who is responsible for making sure that the president's daily brief is put together in a very sound and forthright manner. The person who puts together the budget and priorities of the intelligence community. So I know that this appointment is sending shockwaves here in United States but also around the globe in terms of... Is this really somebody

1:13:43 Donald Trump is going to entrust with the care and the leadership of the intelligence community an unserious pick for a serious position. Unserious pick for a serious position, he says! And he can know because... Because he's Brennan The Muslim. Brennan Kim Iverson It just hit me. Kim Iverson show That's where i got the Kennedy clips You know Kim Iverson? No, I don't think I do. You've seen her. You've seen her. I probably have. Kim Iverson There was one other appointment that led to a hilarious clip. This is the Department of Energy, Chris Wright he's replacing and we will miss her We'll miss the big ears we'll miss the plates on the side of the head of Granholm You're talking about somebody...the old Department of Energy woman

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Karoline Leavitt, White House Press Secretary Appointment

At 27 years old, Karoline Leavitt has been named the youngest White House Press Secretary in history. Leavitt previously served as Trump's campaign spokesperson and ran for Congress in New Hampshire in 2022. She is noted for her aggressive communication style in media appearances, particularly on CNN, and is expected to bring a more confrontational approach to the daily press briefings.

karoline leavitt· press secretary· donald trump· new hampshire· cnn

1:14:34 They keep going on and on about no experience. I mean, come on that entire Biden cabinet is no experience! It's almost earmarked by it. In fact i'm gonna play a clip... Nobody said anything about that! I'll play a clip of Granholm first because she was over there in COP 29 And it was, this was really good. So she did a speech, she did question and answer session and it's so... the whole thing is so orchestrated that she even, she couldn't even figure out who am I supposed to ask the next question. Let me check my... just like Biden. Okay the question not random questions the questions that have been rehearsed beforehand let me make sure i have the correct answer to the question that is coming now yes your turn go last question two

1:15:27 Sorry, I am not sure who that's to. To or from? Nazrin Babaieva What is the core message of United States delivering in COP 29 regarding its role in advancing global energy and transition and combating climate change So our message is that regardless of who is actually occupying the White House This transition is happening. It is happening in the United States at the subnational level and with the private sector and with NGOs, it's happening globally with countries that you all represent who are not turning back. The absence of leadership in the White House

1:16:12 does not mean that this energy transition is stopped. In fact, I would say to countries who might see the US stepping back from climate policy as a reason to step back themselves, I would say to the contrary. This is the time to accelerate, to fill that gap that may be left by leadership in the United States but truly this transition is happening and there's no turning back Thanks everybody. It's happening, there is no turning back! Well maybe you're wrong because this Chris Wright is a totally fossil fuel guy President-elect Donald Trump continues to fill positions in his second administration announcing Chris Wright as his nominee to lead the Department of Energy. Wright the chief executive of Liberty Energy

1:17:05 The second largest fracking services company is one of the most outspoken critics of efforts to combat climate change, posting this video on LinkedIn last year. There is no climate crisis and we're not in the midst of an energy transition either But 99% of climate scientists agree... What? What happened in the 97? They went to 99 all of a sudden. No, no! But 99% of climate scientists agree humans are causing global warming and climate change The Department of Energy's own website states... It's on our website! ...taking place across America underscored by the steady expansion of the US renewable energy sector. It's on their website that means it must be happening

1:17:51 It's on the website people. On the website but heaven forbid you go to Google to do your research No, no So I'd like to wind this up with a couple of... Well before you leave this topic I have to throw a couple and we have also another person that needs to be announced because we made a mistake When we tried to guess the press secretary. Yeah, we did! I thought Alina Haba had it in the bag? I thought so too. I was not arguing with you but it turns out that they do have a press secretary clip but before we go into that I want to talk about this guy... This fracking guy and Burgum who became department of interior guys They're gonna pick him no one's going to push back on that What does the Secretary of Interior do? He takes care of land management basically

1:18:39 So he pushes farmers around and well, he will do that but you'll also open up the and he's from coincidentally North Dakota which many people believe has got the largest world's largest supply of God knows what kind of oil reserves Underneath the ground and liquid gold way shape in form. Yeah so North Dakota is going to be go back to where it was headed as during the first Trump administration as being a huge supplier of worldwide oil products. Oil baron Paul, you better go buy some land over there in North Dakota! I would like to just ask our people in general that they're our producers what would be the stock tips... and this is carryover for another show yeah but what kind of what companies are we dealing with here with North Dakota because it became kind

1:19:33 pushed to the background when Biden got in and while it was on its ascendancy, and I would like to get some inside stuff from people from North Dakota. We have listeners Paul's producers, the oil baron, the oil baron will tell us what the hell is going to be hot in North Dakota. The answer is Bitcoin, that's going to be hot but we'll get an answer for you. It's not very specific to North Dakota so let's play this press secretary clip and so we get who this is now this woman who really likes the dish it out I like her she's got a kind of a perky blonde who just likes to get into arguments she always got a smile on your face when she's pushing

1:20:19 pushing herself in someone's face. Here we go. Trump also named his pick for White House press secretary, Caroline Leavitt served as Trump's campaign press secretary and is currently a spokesperson for his transition at 27 years old she slated to become the youngest white house press secretary in history In a statement trump said leavit did a phenomenal job during his campaign describing her as smart tough and a highly effective communicator. Levitt responded with a post on X saying she is humbled and honored in 2022, she ran for Congress in New Hampshire winning a 10 way Republican primary. She then lost incumbent Democratic Congressman Chris Pappas the White House Press Secretary typically serves as the public face of the administration and historically has held daily briefings for the press corps. Wow 27

1:21:16 I just look at my daughters, my stepdaughters like... No. She's already run for Congress she is an ambitious woman but she is really She was on CNN, there's clips of her just going at it with somebody. And she doesn't put up with any guffs but she keeps a smile on her face. She's not like Saki who is always grimacing Do you think that they will continue with the unnecessary practice of doing a daily briefing? I have no idea. I hope not Well i hope not either because its dumb Yeah...its annoying Wow, all right. For a 27-year old that's quite the gig man! She better be eating nails for breakfast Yeah I think she has the chops for it from what i've seen

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Howard Lutnick, Treasury Secretary Contention

Elon Musk and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. have publicly endorsed Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick for Treasury Secretary over investor Scott Bessent. Musk characterized Bessent as a "business-as-usual" choice, while Kennedy praised Lutnick's support for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Lutnick has been a key figure in Trump's transition team, advocating for the use of tariffs and aggressive economic reform.

howard lutnick· scott bessent· elon musk· treasury secretary· bitcoin

1:22:07 All right, now you had another one you wanted to play? I have another. What is the other one... This is the overall this is the-I have two more clips. Trump new cabinet folk which is a short clip. President elect Donald Trump has named oil executive Chris Wright as his secretary of energy. Wright is the CEO of oil field service company Liberty Energy He's also a Trump campaign donor The president elect says Wright has worked closely with North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum for years years. partly through deregulation. Outside the energy sector, President-elect Trump also named one of his attorneys Will Scharf as White House staff secretary. Trump still has a dozen or so cabinet or cabinet level positions to fill these include leaders of the Treasury Commerce and Labor departments. Did I hear that Gensler is resigning? did you hear that yeah i did So I guess that's true then he instead of getting pushed out he's gonna resign it's probably smart

1:23:21 Then I have this Lutnick pic which is just a minor clip. Now Elon Musk and Robert F Kennedy Jr appear to be throwing their support behind investor Howard Lutnick as the possible next Treasury Secretary Trump has not announced his nominee for the role but Lutnick and investor Scott Bessent are serious contenders for the job Out of the two choices, Musk criticized Besant as a business-as-usual choice. And Kennedy praised Howard Lutnick as a strong advocate for the cryptocurrency Bitcoin. Lutnick is CEO of financial services firm Cantor Fitzgerald. Lutnick has been helping Trump with his transition efforts. He has praised the president elect's economic policies including his use of tariffs

1:24:09 Whether Trump's decision could be influenced by the comments from Musk and Kennedy remains unclear. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see it's a long shot personally well before I continue with With this these three final clips that I have about the cabinet you know I keep reading about Trump doing these recess appointments

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Recess Appointments, Senate Confirmation Strategy

The Trump administration is considering the use of recess appointments to bypass potential Senate opposition to controversial nominees like Matt Gaetz and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. While the Constitution requires "advice and consent," recess appointments allow a president to fill vacancies temporarily when the Senate is not in session. This strategy is seen as a way to install key reformers quickly despite expected resistance from both parties.

recess appointments· senate· matt gaetz· rfk jr.· constitution

1:24:51 Yeah, it can now. Can he because I remember Obama tried to do this with I think four positions Obama did it What was the review the Labor Review Board? I think or it was some odd Odd position a couple of screwball ones but then Jones somehow got everybody got their panties in a bunch over at the Republicans So now it's just gonna be okay. I mean the Constitution says the appointees are supposed to Be accompanied by the advice and consent of the Senate. Right, so now using recess appointments which is another little trick

1:25:32 I don't know if it's a good idea if Trump, I mean its gonna be a circus. Maybe its like lets just have Gates be the circus and try to move other people in slowly and quietly. I mean RFK Jr is the most important one we know that Gates is expendable. I think that Bolton actually made a point In his hatred of Gabbard and Gates, he said... I think he made a good point which is you're not gonna be able to fight all these so you're gonna have to pick and choose your battles if you're gonna stop a couple of them. I think that Kennedy's choice is the one because of the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry in Congress. Whatever Bolton thinks about Gabbard, I don't think that's going to be that big of a deal compared to Kennedy

1:26:21 And so Kennedy's the one that I think they'd have to slip through. I mean, everyone... Unless the pressure from the public is increased but there was this half or half all of Democrats think they don't want him even though he was a former Democrat and it was going to be an EPA guy from the Obama administration who was happy back then. But this Pharma thing is really a problem. It would even be okay? Just take this into consideration RFK going through the process in the Senate

1:26:59 Would really be an opportunity to uncover it and you're for him to really speak out This is the problem. The voice is tough, but he can he can start to say hey look this is what's going on? This is why I'm coming in And he might even say by the way How about you with your two million dollar donation from Pfizer? Hey, you're asking me these questions how about you with your five hundred thousand Oh yes, I think you might be right Kennedy would probably relish Yes Relish doing that right Whether he gets in or not because he can just throw it back at him. And Gates is, Gates is just expendable. Who knows about that guy? He's probably getting railroaded but anyway this is the type of analysis you get on your no agenda show we just keep calm with not all jacked up and jitty and all mad

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

NPR Analysis, Fox News to Cabinet Pipeline

NPR's David Folkenflik analyzed Donald Trump's tendency to recruit cabinet members directly from Fox News, including Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, and Tom Homan. The report suggests that Trump prioritizes "loyalty and casting" over traditional institutional experience. Critics at NPR argue that this creates an administration of "cable warriors" rather than seasoned policy experts, further blurring the lines between media and government.

npr· fox news· pete hegseth· tom homan· mike huckabee

1:27:55 However, if you go to our national treasure NPR this is the type of quality news and reporting you get. Trump has been returning to the well over at Fox repeatedly to fill out his administration and NPR media correspondent David Fulkenflik has been tracking the relationship between Trump and Fox for years he joins us now hey there. Hey Wanda. I want to start by asking you this what does Trump's fascination with the stars over at Fox tell us about him and his administration? Well, I think it's worth remembering that the developer Donald Trump came to National Front of Mind really as a reality TV star. He sees this as casting and the nominees is talent and I think we gotta remember that they key facet of their talent is they're willing to put loyalty paramount you look at Pete Hegseth he sure looks the part decorated infantry officer but

1:28:45 not relevant job experience overseeing enormous institutions or high levels of the military. You know, his relevant experience is on Fox. That's where Trump knows his opinions from earlier he had been something about critic of Trump now he's really clearly a MAGA loyalist and it's loyalty to trump the key thing you think back to the first term trump hired a number folks from fox but he also said hey i'm gonna hire the best generals he liked the way they looked in uniform talked about Turned out many of them had their own ideas once they were in positions of power and pushed back. So NPR, our national treasure is so vapid, so shallow that all they can come up with is well you just like show business people. You know it's like that that's how he operates David It's been a big week for personnel announcements I'm hoping you can just remind us who are some of the Fox News personalities that President-elect Trump has chosen?

1:29:31 Sure, so there's Hegg Seth at Defense. You've got Tulsi Gabbard has picked to be a director of national intelligence She was a former Democratic congresswoman But became a paid Fox commentator Tom Holman the pick to lead Homeland Security a paid Fox commentator Mike Huckabee Designated to be the ambassador to Israel He had his own show on Fox for awhile after coming up short in his 2012 race for the White House and there were also a bunch of guests who became familiar faces for Fox viewers. the Republican conference, the House of Representatives. But he's also been a real cable warrior, a constant present on Fox RFK Jr., like Gabbard, a Democrat but really became incredibly prominent for potential Republican voters and a voice that Fox turned to again and again not as a paid contributor but as

1:30:32 critical yes the by their administration from the left rfk of course is now been selected to be a trump said secretary of health and human services. Oh, wow! He just only... What a stretch! But wait it's really about Rupert Murdoch Right last thing David what should be the big takeaway for us here? How much we conclude about the influence of Fox News on the incoming Trump administration right well the past is prologue right so if you look at the first term yes there were some folks they're loaded with Fox talent but Trump also drew so much on Fox stars as advisors

1:31:08 Sean Hannity, primetime star. Maria Bartiromo had something like 17 hours on Fox. Tucker Carlson back when he was with Fox and the controlling owner of Fox, Rupert Murdoch struck an alliance with Trump for that first term and he's doing it once more so you see these figures stocked with loyal Trump folks just as he knows at the top there is real loyalty and people know not only if you want to go down to Mar-a-Lago if you wanna get Trumps here but also have to go on Fox Oh brother. He forgot Gutfeld, why didn't he? He should have brought Gutfeld in that would have been great! So while that takes place on NPR I think that we should now at least play a clip of the extremely insignificant and i think...I should look at the ratings but just considering how MSNBC is doing Rachel Maddow

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Rachel Maddow, "Leninist Project" and State Destruction

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow characterized Trump's cabinet picks as a "Leninist project" designed to destroy the U.S. government from within. She argued that nominating individuals like Matt Gaetz and Tulsi Gabbard is an intentional effort to dismantle the expertise of federal agencies. Maddow's analysis suggests that the goal is to consolidate power into a "unitary authoritarian" system by removing institutional checks and balances.

rachel maddow· msnbc· steve bannon· authoritarianism· matt gaetz

1:32:04 You almost want to go up there and say, you know if we're intellectually honest Rachel, you wouldn't say any of this. I think that the idea of authoritarian...the authoritarian promise is that everything shrivels in government other than the will of the leader right so um you don't necessarily put a Robert F Kennedy Jr in charge of HHS because your hoping for great things from HHS I mean, Matt Gaetz among all the other things we can say about Matt Gaetz he has explicitly proposed abolishing the Justice Department. Not specifically just abolishing the FBI and ATF but talking about abolishing the Justice Department. Tulsi Gabbard as the Director of National Intelligence is... The idea that Tulsi Gabbard in normal circumstance could get security clearance

1:33:02 to be a like a Walmart style greeter at any US intelligence agency, let alone get past the security barriers is insane. So you do that because you want the worst for these agencies, because you want the worst for the U S government, because you think that the us government is worthless That's part of consolidating power, to make the US government nothing other than the leader and people who will do what he says. And there not being any repository of expertise let alone just general day-to-day knowhow anywhere

1:33:38 So it's a it's a sort of I mean this Steve Bannon used to say. It's a sort of Leninist project right destroy the state This is the cabinet that you nominate to not run the US government to do anything but to destroy the us government So that the us government can be fundamentally reimagined as something much more like a unitary authoritarian or autocratic for lack of a better term system There's your intellectual dishonesty What is she... How does she come up with this? Is that all you got? That's pretty bad. I mean, if she wants to keep ratings She should at least be talking about Matt Gaetz being a pedophile or something like that! This is not a ratings grabber No one cares about your opinion in that regard Rachel Baffling. I think she's off the rails Yeah it's baffling Now actually do have a clip and half kind of

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

The Guardian, X Exit and Blue Sky Migration

The Guardian newspaper announced it would stop posting on X (formerly Twitter), citing the platform's "toxic" environment and the influence of owner Elon Musk. Other high-profile figures, including Jamie Lee Curtis and NYU professor Jay Rosen, have also deactivated their accounts in favor of Blue Sky. Critics of the move argue that abandoning a platform with millions of followers is a short-sighted "virtue signal" that creates ideological echo chambers.

the guardian· x· blue sky· elon musk· jamie lee curtis

1:34:37 So we haven't really seen any celebrities leave America except I believe... What's the... Eva Longoria. Eva Longoria, right because you know she has a house But it turns out as somebody pointed out I don't have the clip but somebody pointed out at the end of one of these things that she's already left the country She left the country during COVID and she lives in Spain and Mexico full-time That's what you do So she's not leaving the country because of Trump She's already left the country cause of COVID And she's a phony So the next best thing you can do is rage quit Twitter. And this is a good one, this is a great virtue signal and there are people I like and I know

1:35:22 who are very open about their disdain for Trump and conservatives, and they don't even live in America. Which is fine, you know? And they're like well I'm not gonna be on X anymore! Well I'll still post there just to make sure I get my links out but I'm not going to engage in anything...and if you really feel like Bette Midler you just delete everything- This is you isn't it?! No I use everything as an inbox. I don't engage in anything, I got no time for that nonsense but when you are a journalistic outfit i think it's very short-sighted to say we're leaving! We're quitting Twitter! You talk about the Guardian right? Social media platform X has seen record traffic since the election but it's also seen some high profile deactivations and is still

1:36:14 payment against the politics of owner Elon Musk. The Guardian, a left-leaning British newspaper is no longer posting on X saying the social media platform is quote toxic and home to far right conspiracies and racism. It's ex profile with nearly 11 million followers states the account has been archived In its announcement, The Guardian says among other high profile post-election exits. What? Say what? I say resort, what resort? What horrible extension of resources could be better used resources to make a tweet and what does that take five minutes

1:37:04 By some intern? Exactly. Reposting a story with a link?! Our resources are better used elsewhere, Elon! We think that the benefits of being on X are now outweighed by the negatives and that resources could be better used promoting our journalism elsewhere Among other high profile post election exits, actress Jamie Lee Curtis posted to Instagram a screenshot of her ex account being deactivated with the caption. God grant me the serenity to accept that things I cannot change courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference

1:37:41 And Jay Rosen is also capturing attention over his departure. An NYU professor with more than 300,000 followers on X in his sign off from posting on the app He told users to find him on blue sky instead I had to log into my blue sky account. I hadn't been on it in a long time and I still don't have an account You should so you can follow because I don't want to miss any of these great thoughts of Jay Rosen You just get on Blue Sky it is not only does it look exactly like X or Twitter? You said it was anti-Semitic, didn't you? Was there a problem with it? No. It's Tranny Central is what I said. Oh, Tranny! Well that's why Jay Rosengold goes there for that reason, I guess. Here, Blue Sky... If you just go into Blue Skies... Trannys! That's how it started and now everything... MSNBC people, CNN people My timeline is filled with Kara Swisher moaning about Elon

1:38:44 I mean, it's just a left. leftist cry ground. Everyone's just crying about, it's all so horrible is no good. Trump no good. Now you want to get an account? But it's... No! You don't want an account. So but it kind of ruins both. It ruins what certainly Algo-ized social networks are all about You know, if you just hear people agreeing with the whole time who cares? You want to have something getting in there and get mad at ya. Because that's how you keep eyeballs on your system. So it's going to be Trump and the right on X and it is going to everybody else on blue sky And I think 2 million new accounts have been created. I don't know of 2 million left X but

1:39:39 And the thing is, if you're The Guardian with 11 million followers. Why would you give up that platform? This is the stupidity of some of these news organizations. Oh we've got 11 million over here let me just bail out of that because I got nothing but then they're always begging for money for some reason it's nuts We have not one but two tip of the day's coming up later on in the show. I brought my big, I've got a big tip when i bring it to you, it is a big tip. The bet? We must talk a little bit about AI and certainly about what's going on with our friend the seed man but first... I have the clip for this. I know you do that's that's I'm teasing your clips but don't spike the ball man just let everybody know that its coming out

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Podcast Value for Value, Modern App Features

The show operates on a "value for value" model, eschewing traditional advertising in favor of direct listener support via time, talent, and treasure. Listeners are encouraged to use modern "Podcasting 2.0" apps to receive live signals and participate in the ecosystem. The hosts noted a recent dip in donation numbers following a newsletter distribution, speculating on the impact of external events like the Tyson-Paul fight.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· spotify· newsletter· donations

1:40:33 It's a tease. I decided it was good to do a tease, you know why? No, I don't know why because this is new! It is new...it's because whenever I asked Tina if she listened to the show she said yeah listen up to the donation segment Then you miss all the FEMA stuff. Oh, because of people like Tina who don't like listening to the donators? No I don't think it's that... That's exactly it! No! Yeah, trying to make her come back to the show after they donated. By the way today she's got no problem we got less than 30 people after the newsletter went out donating to this show. Less than thirty

1:41:11 So it was the biggest fail of the newsletter I've done probably for a year. So you're blaming it on the newsletter? Oh yeah. God, I think maybe... Yeah good idea! You and your newsletter The newsletter was no good we got no doctors nobody did anything It was just like either they didn't get but I the numbers open numbers look normal so I don't know what happened Yeah, we have Seedman. I think it was that damn boxing match! We got some updates on a couple wars things are going on...I think it's all worth hanging around for but first I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the C in COVID speak say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr John Cena

1:42:04 Good morning to you, Mr. Ann Curry! In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feed in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls...in the troll room! Choke out! Wait I didn't get a count here hold on second let me get oh something's wrong what's going on did my keyboard fail well that's interesting trying to get a troll count And, uh... that's very interesting. Batteries! No I just- it's interesting you say that. I just put new batteries in and for some reason now it's a- I can see it wants to work You put one battery in backwards Uh no I did not It's been working fine Now have it here 24 hours Okay thank you Thank you very much

1:42:55 I'll have to refresh my troll room. I think it's a troll room refresh is in order, I'm gonna refresh Oh! I got logged out of the troll room. There you go Okay let me see if i can log back in. How did you get logged out? How did YOU get logged out of the trollroom?! Well... It can happen Incorrect password. Oh boy! So you can't get in now? No, this is not going well... You've been hacked! I have been hacked! However, we have 2492 trolls in the room at the peak and actually 2491 because I just got kicked out That's pretty average so that doesn't explain the low donation numbers

1:43:49 Well, it's not. $2400 for Sunday is average No you... okay I don't understand the numbers You give me 1800 and 2200 These are the numbers that you gave me No no i never said 2200 It's always 24 Okay so we're above average It can be 24 000 0.0 I mean come on If it doesn't hit 25 it's average Okay, let me see now. Let me back in I'm back in let me check if it works yeah very interesting okay? Well get the number now 22 2492 as the peak now It's 2209 because of that cuz I got logged out

1:44:33 These trolls are in the troll room. You can join them at trollroom dot IO We love having our live studio audience, although no one came up with Kim Iverson No one even does any work anymore They just sit there used to work for you they use to do their work these actually help know you know none of that Oh he gave us the show. He was just no no they're just like rap sucks That's literally what it is when i'm getting here Oh, someone did. Okay. Someone actually did say it all right well I missed it you've got to say it over and over again you've gotta... That's true! You have to go bang bang bang bang over and over like a whole page full Yeah that helps that really does help with some ASCII art and everything We love it anyway I mean I get the biggest kick out of the trolls It makes me feel alive Makes me feel like there is someone actually here listening caring And sharing we'd love that

1:45:31 The troll, well the live stream can also be experienced on a modern podcast app which will alert you when we send out the bad signal. This is this is a good thing to have so that if you're available you'll know they're going live okay just click and it's in the same app that you get all of your podcasts you can import all your podcast into it no problem You might as well, since you're going to see particularly now that Spotify is going to be moving to video and they can do advertising again. They're making all the same mistakes so there'll be de-platforming stuff as usual it's just it's the nature of advertising this there's no two ways about it and when we publish the show you get updated within 90 seconds It's all part of the podcasting 2.0 magic Get a modern podcast app at PodcastApps.com

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

AI Art Controversy, No Agenda Producer Feedback

Traditional artists contributing to the show, such as Matt Boisvert, expressed frustration over the increasing use of AI-generated art in the show's selection process. Boisvert argued that picking "prompt-jockeyed" pieces over hand-crafted work destroys the incentive for human creators to participate. The hosts debated the merits of AI art, acknowledging its slick execution while maintaining a preference for strong human-led concepts.

ai art· matt boisvert· darren o'neill· no agenda art· digital art

1:46:20 17 years we've been running the show. We do it value for value, which means we send out a newsletter and then you are encouraged to support the show or you can listen to donation segment and be inspired because other people are supporting the show and they do that with time talent and treasure And I've received some feedback from the producers, by the way everyone who listens is a producer. You have an obligation to give us boots on the ground of course send us treasure if you can but help us out anyway just by promoting the show are artists who have been a big staple of the show for many years and there's a little bit of an issue with AI and I did want to read a note from Matt Boisvert

1:47:09 Now, we've picked his art several times and I wanted to share what he said about the art. My complaint is there's too much AI. We wind up ultimately picking an AI piece because there's just too much AI. What else are you going to do if the Dutch masters are no longer in there? And I think i was spot on he said Adam listening today you talked about artists no longer producing for the NOAA agenda because of AI and I have to say that is exactly how we've been feeling for a long time. The AI art being there was more an annoyance at first but once you guys started picking AI art it destroyed my drive to even try anymore

1:47:50 Pretty much exactly as you said, doing art from scratch over the course of three hours is incredibly hard to do. It takes a ton of energy and once the AI stuff started getting picked I gave up in fact i made arrangements in my school year schedule so I am available to do art every Thursday but I think I'm the only producer that produced art once in the last few months and it's sad and I don't know what the fix is! I keep my eye on the artists I can approve them and your right The real artists seem to have lost the drive to participate This is what AI is doing to art. It's destroying us. It's just, it's AI that's doing it to everything Yes! But doesn't mean that it's not sad and then if you look at the art that we chose this this is the kicker This is episode 1712 titled Data Plateau And we picked the art from Darren O'Neill which was of course AI

1:48:46 which was pretty funny. No agenda milk, you got the missing Democrat voters but on the last episode we thanked Koob the Boob who did the art for 1711 this was The Wastebuster? You remember that art with the kind of... Yeah yeah of course Here's his note So I'm listening to the show on Thursday excited to hear the arts segment because my art was picked But all I hear is you to talk about how you begrudgingly picked it because there was nothing better come on man at least At least I showed up and submitted something that was objectively a well-executed This would be a typical or I love this. This isn't the artist lament yeah, they get this stuff picked and

1:49:30 But there's still, you know you guys we didn't pick it with enough accolades. Come on! That was a good one I love that note He goes on Yes the cheesecake was AI Maybe the connection to the magic pill Ozempic and the reduction of government waste didn't land but it still... but I stil worked hard on the art When you say this is my... And then there's another gripe when you say this is my first time my art was picked for the show That's not true It's been awhile but my last win was Kabul My art has regularly been used as chapter art and newsletter art, which I always acknowledge happens. As well as before show art! I get that you've got your Dutch master favorites but when you shit on other artists and don't expect them to keep showing up... Yeah okay?

1:50:17 He says, I know I'm acting butthurt but as a regular Triple T donator and being well beyond knighthood is it too much to ask for a little acknowledgement? We gave you the acknowledgement, we picked it. It was a good piece! We liked it... I even went back and said that it was pretty, we liked it, but we were critiquing it. And I liked the cheesecake part. But we weren't shitting on it, we were critiquing it. Well maybe from his perspective, but if we're going to shit on something let's talk about the Darren O'Neill piece. Yeah. It's a sorry day when Darren ends up winning

1:50:56 I mean, come on. Darren does everything and now he takes the art because nobody else can come up with anything? Oh my goodness, by the way this thing about this particular piece people should go look at it because in the small form Yeah We both saw Snoopy the dog. It looked exactly like Snoopy it was crazy when you blow it up. It's a cow It's like an optical illusion I don't know if it became it was part of their system that created it but it's hilarious to see that is Snoopy the dog picture

1:51:33 It becomes a cow. Now, okay now just about the choices we had because without a doubt we both cracked up And we're laughing our ass off over Scaramangos, what's that in your mouth? Yes! That was the clear winner. That we were never gonna pick If you haven't seen it, you need to go to noagendaartgenerator.com I mean... It was just so vile There is no way- I couldn't even use it for the newsletter We would have gotten more donations probably Well, maybe. Good point! It was absolutely hilarious but no we couldn't use it I mean that even we have some kind of level of scruples Yes there's certain things we can do Not much but yeah this just took it a little bit too far Now...I will say that I really appreciated Dutch master Tante Niel coming back in and she came in with the seasoning of reveal

1:52:36 You know, we the colors weren't right. I mean it just didn't pop I mean III hate to say there was a bunch of Just some random stains on the right there. Yeah, she or something you blew down about It had something to do with rub it the wrong way. I'm sure Knowing Tantaniel and then comic strip blogger had seasoning of reveal which was actually not even that I mean we laughed at it because it had too many eggs dot com as a native ad on the side. Another winner is another scaramanga piece, he's gonna lose one of his coastal erections with the little... what does that say on the side? Meet Marco!

1:53:24 Another hilarious piece that we couldn't use. No, it was... But then I think he's just doing this now just to amuse himself Well it amused us! We just didn't feel it would be appropriate Everyone is amused but- We have a family show That just went too far. We looked at for quite awhile Acadium and Crackers by Sir Shug which was no agenda elementables And you had a real problem with the, I have color viewing issues and you had a real problem with the green and some other things. You made points about it? No it was too... The blue on blue and light blue with a... It just did not come out because I don't have colored blindness in fact blues come out little bit after you get cataract surgery blues are better

1:54:18 But it just was kind of the contrast was not there. It was lacking proper contrast and also the bottom was cut off, so I mean the box should have been centered in the frame. There were a lot of flaws in that piece. You know, it's interesting that AI is in essence ruining art for us. I mean really is this ruining art because we have said quite clearly will take a great concept executed by a real artist over something that looks slick, that just isn't there. It just doesn't do it any day! But you know I understand the...that artists they put all this time into it and then

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

AI Poetry, Shakespeare Comparison Study

A BBC segment revealed that participants in a study often scored AI-generated poetry higher than works by William Shakespeare, citing perceived "emotional quality." Poet Paul Muldoon participated in a test where he had to distinguish human-written verse from AI imitations. The results suggest that AI has become proficient at mimicking human sentiment by processing vast amounts of existing literature, leading to concerns about the "synthetic content" loop.

ai poetry· william shakespeare· bbc· paul muldoon· creativity

1:55:01 For whatever reason their execution it just didn't work. It happens I mean you can't always hit it on the mark and then they see someone did some like a Darren O'Neill does some prompt jockeying boom he gets chosen with a stupid milk carton, I understand! I understand the frustration but let me just make it even worse for you listen to this this is a bonus clip Listen to this BBC segment on AI poetry. Participants were then presented with 10 poems in random order, 5 from a real poet and five AI imitations. And they scored the AI poems higher attributing their marks to creativity and emotional quality In the same spirit then Anita Anand challenged Pulitzer Prize winning poet

1:56:04 Paul Muldoon to detect the human from the AI offering in this test. Here is take one, when winter's frost does chill the wintry air and all the earth is covered in a shroud my thoughts turn to thee gentle and fair and in thy love I find a warmth endowed number two thy bosom is endeared with all hearts which I by lacking had supposed dead and there reigns love, and all loves loving parts. And all those friends which I thought buried." The first one was written by AI because there is of course lots of poetry that is written by real people which is actually not very good You're right! You nailed it! The first one was by AI and the second one was by the actual William Shakespeare There you go! Nuff said

1:57:00 People choose AI poetry over Shakespeare. Done! Humanity is over That's it. That's it? Well, since the AI is sucked out of the mass amount of information that humanity created this doesn't mean humanity is over It's now that its creating its original material and then starts to get sloppy...that's when it's over Well you know the big problem is they're hitting the limits now and there's no more content to suck in So now they're going to suck in synthetic content. There's a real slowdown in the performance... No, they should stop sucking it in! That's the key! But it's not good enough They keep saying we need more, we need more power I need more power Scotty

1:57:50 You cannot stop the money train on this thing. They have told everybody, if we just had more money... If we just had more power it'll get better and it's not that's the problem anyway I think its pretty good now okay yeah I mean the milk carton that Moneal cranked out is reasonable but do you think Darren would make that milk carton if it would cost him $50 which is probably the actual cost No, God no. No never that's not he would go back to hand drawing if they had to pay 50 bucks That's when it's gonna end and I did appreciate the farmers wife and we talked about her That was one of our kids who drew that she made her she put our kids to work And took a picture of it and we didn't choose this I feel bad about that Anyway talked about it. Yeah, we did it was cute piece good news Tina is listening She had we've we've we've the tease carried her through into the donation segment

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Sir Onymous and NATO

Sir Onymous of Dogpatch contributed a significant donation and a detailed note regarding the historical context of NATO expansion. He argued that the U.S. reneged on promises made to the Soviet Union by James Baker regarding NATO's eastward movement following German reunification. The note also touched on the influence of former colonies in UN voting blocs and the strategic interests of Russia and China in those regions.

sir onymous· nato· james baker· germany· un voting bloc

1:58:46 We haven't even talked about the donations yet. Stay with it baby, stay with it baby here we go as we kick it off with our number one producer for today now remember we thank everybody $50 and above for every single episode you are all considered producers and and we love it when you do a sustaining donation, which is any amount any frequency. You can do that at noagendadonations.com We will thank our associate executive producers as John mentioned not many today $200 and above and will read your note and whatever you want to put in there within reason And three hundred dollars and above executive producer credit that you can keep forever

1:59:26 and even use it on IMDB.com and other places where Hollywood credits are recognized, and coming in today as an executive producer but also our top donor he is back In quick succession, Sir Onymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia. He was out of service is the reason? Yeah he was out of the service area. Basically... And so here he is with 2822 we have no idea what these numbers mean We are convinced there's some type of intelligence code Tell me that he had 11 $2 bills in his... No, he had one two dollar bill and a 20. Oh okay because you always add and I actually walk around with two-dollar bills now it's hilarious Yes good luck! It is good luck And it has the signing of the Constitution on it which is nice He has a longer note than usual which we are happy to share from strong...

2:00:23 When are they going to make a big head $2 bill? A big head two dollar bill. Yeah, all the bills they took their old little small heads yeah then they made them big there's a big giant head on 100 there's a big giant head on every bill except the 2 who is on the $2 bill Jefferson. Very good answer! From Sir Animas of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia, thank you to all the producers for their hard work and contributions to make this such an important source of information your post-election summary and clips revealing the lack of comprehension by many M5M participants of how disrupted their industry has become was outstanding

2:01:03 As someone who works to identify areas of disruption before the disrupted identify and adapt, finding M5M broadcasts of their own self-analysis reinforce what makes this such a valuable source of information. What does that tell us about seronomimus? That's interesting! Yeah. He works to identify areas of disruption... Well, he's in the business of deconstructing something I will clarify my anti-NATO comments that were received during my travels Good The comments cover three significant regions of former NATO member colonies with virtually all the countries younger than John and many younger than Adam

2:01:46 What is this? It has to be like... These are the recent ones, and ones where they were after James Baker says we're not taking it. The deal was let's go back that this been discussed a million times but James Baker tried to The Soviet Union fell apart and we wanted to reunite Germany. In exchange for doing that, we said we're not going to move NATO any further east. We lied! So they let us reunite Germany and then we reneged. And then they said oh you didn't have it in writing... Where's the contract? There have been recent headlines in the past two years of military intervention by current NATO members against former colony coups, but the experiences extend much further back of bailing out a NATO ally. Does anyone remember Vietnam? He says

2:02:37 Do you understand that one? No, I don't quite. What I sense was directed... I think Libya would be a better example but okay. What I sense was directed towards the US growing military and financial support of NATO which in many of these former colonies view subsidizes their former rulers ability to keep bases in their former colony and exert undue influence well yes that is the American military way Till we do it. Collectively, these countries represent a significant UN voting bloc and untold natural resource riches. And they know it! As do Russia and China. Hello Ukraine? No jingles no karma PS this is my October payment for the NO AGENDA PLUS subscription for the Plus Bundle yes It's a good deal that plus bundle with special behind-the-scenes access to what otherwise would be outtakes and edits left on the cutting room floor That's right

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Producer Credits, Election Wagers and Children's Books

Producers shared stories of significant financial wagers placed on Donald Trump's election victory, citing the show's deconstruction as a key factor in their confidence. Additionally, producer Leah Rize promoted her children's book, *Maverick a Million*, available on Amazon. The segment included various "karma" requests for jobs, retirement, and general good luck from the listener community.

sir tyler· leah rize· maverick a million· election betting· trump win

2:03:47 Keep no agenda out of the bundle. Thank you very much, Sir Animas of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia. Particularly on a day like today we appreciate you big time! Yeah...today would have been total disaster. Sir Tyler in Boca Raton Florida comes in with $363.76 And he writes, in the morning John and Adam I have been a loyal producer and listener ever since episode number 12 back when Adam smoked weed. And did the show stoned! I was 17 years old at the time now i'm 34 I haven't missed a single episode. I wanted to donate the 4547 for Trump's win because i like the numerology but it didn't seem like enough value so I multiplied the trump donation by four one time for each year he'll be in an office which is 36376 nice love his lit Tyler night of South Florida's graffiti painted walls would love some r2d2 karma if you have it we do

2:04:54 Karma and like clockwork I the minute we started the donation segment right after seronymous. I saw Tina walk out with a dog Of course he hates hates the show she might be listening on her earbuds died down it wouldn't be so sure Brian from Cape she loves the show John and she loves you like I do We love you Oh brother Brian is from Cape Girardeau, in Missouri. 333 dot 33 in the morning I'm a longtime listener first-time donor yes please deduce me you've been D douched

2:05:36 I could not deny the value i got from this show any longer. Your deconstruction of the rhetoric around Trump resonated with me, where virtually all public events and commentary – even seemingly adversarial attacks – pointed to what amounted to a conspiracy to get Trump into the White House! Your take was clearly spot on. I go a bit further from your stance believing this election was even more rigged in Trump's favor. For example, I think there's a real chance the assassination attempt was theater with or without Trumps knowledge. Just imagine what magicians can do on stage let alone the most powerful people in the world!

2:06:12 In any case, your deconstruction was a key pillar in my making a significant wager on a Trump victory. I've gambled on sports and other events for many years but this was my highest confidence and highest dollar wager of all time it is only right that i share in the value you helped create keep loving what you do and loving your truck four more years can i get in there eating the dog says Brian in Cape Girardeau in Missouri And that I wanted to mention. They're eating the dogs! I want to mention a note from Sir Comfrence, he said just like a pharma ad all the warnings and side effects don't deter people they boost sales maybe that contributed to Trump's win which i thought was an interesting theory yeah it's very possible and you liked it you liked it that thought yeah I do Europe

2:07:16 All right, yeah Dame Rita. She's in Sparks Nevada 333 dot 33 she says I TM gentlemen Thank you for the twice weekly dose of sanity and laughter dame Rita that's a great note Sir pursuit of peace and tranquility donated twice three thirty three dot thirty-three two times which Seems to be in order yes October 31st And November 5th somehow what happened we can explain this okay? It seems that one of the notes got kind of sidelined in the mail and they both came in at the same time when they should have come in one week after another.

2:07:54 But there they are, there's two of them now. So since we're getting near the end I'll read his notes in its entirety. There's two notes actually. Two notes yes please find my October donation at 3333. I apologize for the delayed donations it has been a crazy busy time here in the land of cherry trees. I'll get back on track in November John referring to show 1703 Reagan's team eliminated the car loan interest tax deduction as part of their effort to broaden the tax base and lower the tax rate. The 1986 tax reform reduced the top tax rate from 50% to 28%, but was targeted to be revenue neutral. The policy theory is to limit the impact of taxes on economic decisions, the lower the tax rate, less impact it has on the economics of the transaction."

2:08:38 If you don't mind, please play the back up to the backup jingle that cracks me up every single time I hear it. A back-up and a back-up to that back-up and a back-up to the back-up to the back-up Love the show! Thank you for what you do four more years And in second note please find enclosed my November donation of $333.33 Keeping it short love the show sincerely Sir Pursuit Of Peace & Tranquility Earl Of The Lands Of The Red Clay And The Cherry Trees Yeah That was nice. Leah Rize comes in from Madison, Alabama 333 ITM John and Adam my name is Leah Rize I'm a single mother of four adopted kids and a single mother of four adopted kids and unfortunately a douche bag Oh no! Please de-douche me! You've been de-douched I've written a wonderful children's book called Maverick A Million

2:09:35 Available on Amazon if any of your producers are looking for a great gift for their kids or grandkids off for Christmas This would be a one book to get them check out maverick a million on Amazon afford by the by Leah rise I guess For jingles, I like Trump's jobs jingle with this sale of my book also Trump loves Nazis just because it's hilarious Thank you for your courage and for all you do for us sincerely Leah Rice Donald loves Nazis. CNN say that he's KKK and he shouts a sick hail with it, wow! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! You've got karma And I can report just as I thought

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Ashlyn Speed, Mazda MX-5 Scholarship Success

Producer Ashlyn Speed won the Mazda MX-5 Cup Shootout Scholarship, becoming the first female racer to achieve this honor. Fellow producers Jen and Eli the Coffee Guy made a donation in her name to celebrate the milestone. The hosts predicted a bright future for Speed in professional racing, suggesting she is destined for major circuits like Indy 500 or NASCAR as sponsors begin to line up.

ashlyn speed· mazda mx-5· racing· scholarship· eli the coffee guy

2:10:26 Tina says, oh brother. I am listening. Well i was wondering who she was? I think...I knew she was listening all the time! Oh sure! I'm pretty..i think the oh brother is....oh god i love John O'Brother alright yeah well that's what that was probably i'm sure my wife is awesome there you go you're up i'm sorry oh Aaron Heath oh it was so short Lewiston what does S say South Africa All right. How can it be US then? Well, what is SA? What state is SA I'm trying to figure it out myself South America Idea what sa is Lewiston It must be it must be a typo and must be SC. It must be South Carolina Lewiston sounds like South Carolina Lewis does you could be Mexico as in Mexico well that came in off of the off of a Stripe account so that was put in by hand So it could be a typo

2:11:27 Well anyway, Aaron Heath he wants Jobs Karma and we say thank you for your support with 333. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Here is our buddy Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville Illinois $211.17 and he has a switcheroo here this is interesting In the morning, my wife Jen and I would like to make this donation on behalf of fellow producer and friend of the show Ashlyn Speed. Yes! She's doing great! She won the Mazda MX5 Cup Shootout Scholarship Which is first female to do it i might add First female ever And there are all kinds as we predicted

2:12:10 Sponsors are lining up, they love her. We said right away this racer Ashland Speed first of all go speed racer best name in racing She is. Yeah, Ashland Speed you can just tell it ten years from now she's gonna be all over the place this is obvious and I mean we'll know...I'm sure that Noah Jenda will not be able to be on the car pretty soon because you know someone at Mazda is going to go what is this? What's this nonsense! How much are they paying ya? Well then we kind of comp them. Get off or I'm not gonna approve with you. But put Pennzoil, Pennzoil. Red Bull! Here we go by the way I pray that she gets Red Bull that would be great for her she is destined So red bull will be a perfect sponsor yeah She's destined for greatness and we were very proud to be She'll be the first female to win a NASCAR race I'm telling you she's No she'l probably be definitely Indy 500 Indy 500 for sure she could do F1 She has it man she's a natural talent

2:13:11 And she and she's just one I'd rather have her be an American stuff. Yes, she could probably what she said She's just one of those people that can really erase it's just back Yeah, she's just balls to the wall Congratulations congratulations he continues in cheers to all producers who donate to support the show through other means For those in Gitmo Nation, by the way who need good coffee go to gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM for 20% off your order stay caffeinated like Adam is today I'm very caffeinated Eli the Coffee Guy Yeah i'm all jacked up on the gigawatts What did you have today? What was what is the specific roast It's the same dark roast um ah

2:13:58 There's so many. Ethiopian, there is a lot of Ethiopian stuff they liked. The Ethiopian stuff was good. I think it is the Ethiopian yeah. Oh no, could be the Colombian. No definitely not Colombian but its good! It's always good! Its tasty...it's nice and I got lots of it I guess so. The Colonel Foreman checks in from Chanhassen, Minnesota $200 associate executive producer and he says hoping for some sweet karma well you don't have to hope i mean you're an associate executive producer you deserve it sign the colonel foreman here you go colonel You've got karma

2:14:35 And that brings us to our last associate executive producer who happens to be the great Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado. $200 and she's asking for surprisingly jobs karma and says for a winning resume and faster job search and I faster job and a faster job search go to image makers Inc comm that's image makers Inc with the K dot-com and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Your go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs! Yes! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs!

2:15:15 Dynamite, thank you to our executive and associate executive producers. And thank you to everyone who supports the show financially will be thanking people $50 and above in our second segment never under 50 for reasons of anonymity. And again, you can help out a lot by just adding to any regular donation you make as sustaining donation amount, any frequency as often or as little whatever you want to do just keep it coming keep it going and keep us on the air for at least four more years. The credits for these Associated Executive Producers are of course lifetime credits you can use them anywhere they're accepted including LinkedIn your social... You can use it on Blue Sky put it on blue sky

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

FEMA Assessments, Data Selling and "Twister" Parallels

Homeowners in Florida reported that filing for FEMA assistance following Hurricane Helene led to an immediate influx of solicitation calls from contractors, suggesting their data was sold. One producer detailed a FEMA inspection that focused strangely on the number of televisions in the home. These real-world experiences were compared to the plot of the movie *Twister*, where storm chasers use disaster data to pressure victims into selling their land.

fema· hurricane helene· data privacy· naturally occurring affordable housing· twister

2:15:58 Thank you again for producing episode one thousand seven hundred and seventeen. Our formula is this, we go out we hit people in the mouth. Back up to that back up to the backup backup to the backup. You know on the last show we talked about FEMA yeah I had this very good clip about the scammish nature and the woman... I'll tell you what it was, it's the

2:16:35 Naturally occurring affordable housing, which is some people like oh no I know about those guys. No it's not an agency it is a term used in real estate investments naturally occurring affordable housing and the what I had the assertion or kind of the just listening to the woman who was blamed for somehow being a horrible person turns out that there's a bunch of agencies and other groups in the middle of this assessment they make, uh... of your home. So when we all thought wow I can't believe FEMA is supposed to save us from disaster is skipping people with Trump flags That was not at all what happened And that was how it was presented and think we kind of believed that might have been purposeful To cover up what might really be going on! And you have the note from one of our producers Yes one of our producers

2:17:26 Producer Melinda, she writes and this is kind of a long note you have to bear with me. My home is in Clearwater Florida flooded during the hurricane Helene 17 inches outside 6 inches inside per instructions from our flood insurance handbook slash insurance company and county officials we contacted FEMA to notify them of the flooding via online registration funny as soon as I completed the form and uploaded it I started to receive solicitation calls for roof inspections, home demos blah blah blah. So they are selling the data immediately! No big shock but it does piss me off anyway anyone on our street did the same registration we were all contacted that we would receive an inspection turns out they all occurred on the same day same guy

2:18:16 When the FEMA rep arrived at my house, he was armed with an iPad. He walked through my home and followed a questionnaire with prompts on the pad. He only wanted to know how many bedrooms we had. He took a photo of each bedroom and had to confirm that each room had a bed. He also wanted to know how many TVs were in the house and which rooms had a TV That was it. That was all he asked when we were done I offered him water and some cookies and he left He went to the next house and he was asked about the TVs. My neighbor challenged him as to why that was irrelevant, why it was relevant and then the guy just left so what does TV ownership reflect in the elgos that FEMA uses? Anyway a week later I received my 750 bucks and an additional $2600 direct deposit into my checking account. The neighbor who challenged the guy only got 750

2:19:17 I guess those Publix cookies and water paid off. The rub now is FEMA's conducting an assessment of Pinellas County to decide what neighborhoods had substantial damage versus not substantial damage anything less than 12 inches of water in the home is considered not substantial damage however since FEMA report, the FEMA report is not complete and notification letters have not been sent to homeowners. The county is refusing to issue permits for repair because they don't want to upset FEMA more accurately, is to make sure they get as much money from the FEDI government as possible it's all bullshit and we're unable to start the repair of our houses all while we live elsewhere paying both mortgages and rent The level of anger in this county is growing and all the anger is toward FEMA and the county

2:20:09 I hope other producers have some insight into this FEMA bullshit. And so we were talking about this, the TV in every room? What was our kind of guess what that had to do with anything? It had to probably do with...we thought maybe income level. Especially if it's OLED then you're rolling in dough. If they're OLED yes for sure. Income level those things are not cheap but I don't know. It's very suspicious though. Well also, you know that FEMA person was working for an independent agency that hires people on behalf of FEMA we now know that's how it works and the fact that company apparently is selling your data right away to roofing companies is an absolute outrage

2:21:00 It really is. It's disgusting that that's how our government operates with these... Everyone is a contractor, we've got millions of people in government but yet we need contractors and NGOs to do the work Another note that I got several notes about the movie Twister which I think is now also streaming And people say this whole movie is about this scam And so I have not seen it, but Matt emailed me this. That Avernath story reminded me... I'd never heard of a company like this until my wife and i went to see Twister this summer. The villains in the movie are scientists who turn out to be getting their funding from a company like Avernath as storm chasers they show up after tornadoes to help but are actually just getting everybody's info appraise damages and convince the victim it is easier if they sell instead of rebuild." Well there you go

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Religious Exemptions, Blue Cross Blue Shield Lawsuit

A Michigan jury awarded $13 million to Lisa Domski, a former Blue Cross Blue Shield employee who was fired for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine on religious grounds. Domski, a Catholic, argued the company failed to accommodate her beliefs despite her 38-year tenure. Her legal team hailed the verdict as a major victory for religious freedom and a warning to corporations enforcing vaccine mandates.

lisa domski· blue cross blue shield· vaccine mandate· religious freedom· michigan

2:21:58 art imitating life. So, this will be an ongoing story for us. Yeah it looks like it because especially since they railroaded that poor lady and she got fired from FEMA and from her job which might be the culprits in all of this or maybe the agency in the middle we don't know And, as often happens when we're right about things on the Noah Jenner Show it pays off for people. I'm waiting for one of our producers to get one of these paydays. A Michigan court has awarded nearly $13 million dollars to a woman who was fired in 2021 for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine on religious grounds during the pandemic

2:22:42 ruled in favor of Lisa Domski, a Catholic woman who sued Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan her former employer of 38 years. Domski argued that the company violated her rights by firing her after she requested an exemption from its vaccine mandate, citing her Catholic beliefs and giving a written statement with the name of her priest. But her request was denied by the company. The jury found that Domski's firing was unlawful and that Blue Cross Blue Shield had failed to accommodate her religious beliefs. Domski's legal team celebrated the ruling, calling it a major win for religious freedom. Attorney John Marco said our forefathers fought and died for the freedom of each American to practice his or her own religion. Neither the government nor a corporation has a right to force an individual to choose between his or her career and conscience. Just the tip ladies and gentlemen just the tip of the iceberg is going to be a lot of this

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Ohio Bathroom Bill, Transgender Language and "Code Words"

Ohio lawmakers approved legislation restricting school bathroom use to a student's biological sex, a move expected to be signed by the governor. Meanwhile, a Financial Times article by Janan Ganesh argued that Democrats lost the election partly due to their use of "elitist" progressive jargon like "redemption arc" and "main character syndrome." The analysis suggests that voters gravitate toward podcasts because they use plain English rather than academic "code words."

ohio· bathroom bill· transgender· janan ganesh· progressive jargon

2:32:32 So President Trump is not even in office? Things are already changing around the country. Everything's changing around the world! Everything, everything is changing. Lawmakers in Ohio have approved legislation that restricts the use of school bathrooms by transgender students Karen Kassler with Ohio Public Media says the governor is expected to sign that bill. The ban requires public and private primary and secondary schools to designate bathrooms and facilities for the exclusive use of either males or females Republican Senate President Matt Huffman says it's about safety and security I think that this bill in fact protects the rights

2:33:11 of most people. The bill will threaten students' mental and physical health, according to LGBTQ activists such as Morgan Zickus with the group Equality Ohio. Trans students want a fair chance to succeed in school and these bills make that harder. Eleven other states have some form of bathroom ban at least four have been challenged in court those eleven states and Ohio all voted for Republicans last week's election For NPR News, I'm Karen Kassler in Columbus. where this guy's talking, this black guy is talking about how the Republicans were against men and women sports. And the guy goes nuts! He says there are women they say they're women, you know when you're being a bigot he goes on and back to their argument it was quite funny I'm thinking that people get into arguments with these lunatics You're gonna have to start changing the language and I hate to say that but I think you should call

2:34:25 You don't like XY chromosome to people competing in XX chromosome sports. Get around that one! There's always a retort and the retort is intersex people is real man Because there are people who aren't intersex. No, but there are people who are intersex. But they're chromosomed XY or XXs? I know! But for the one intersex person in a million you've got to have it as the bathroom thing straight now this is i'm just telling you that will be the retort i'm not saying it's right and that's what that's where you're gonna get it crazy there was

2:35:06 That was a pretty good article. Where did I get this? This was in... Well, by the way the XXXY thing might apply to bathrooms the way you put it but it does not apply to sports. I think it's a great idea and I think you should make bumper stickers. I'm not doing nothing. Financial Times had a very interesting article about The Democrats' loss in this election and this guy Janan Ganesh whatever his name is however you pronounce it. He said the problem is, and this kind of pertains to podcasts is that Americans just want to speak English and the language of progressive liberal liberals and Democrats is so obvious he says for example using the phrase redemption arc

2:36:06 or accuse a third person of having main character syndrome, or doing something performative. Karis Wisher? You're likely to hear toxic and narcissism and cosplay in Washington DC during the Biden administration Your date in D.C was likely to say I'm an empath And you know, it's so true. They have this jargon that is just... and of course it comes across as elitist. Code words! Yeah code words and that also the reason why people gravitate towards podcasts we speak English you know? We don't use all these

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

"Catman" Traffic Stop, Staged Viral Content

A viral video depicting a police officer pulling over a man who identifies as a cat was analyzed and determined to be a staged satirical bit. In the clip, the "owner" of the cat-identifying man argues with the officer about gendered language and rabies shots. While the video circulated as a serious example of modern cultural absurdity, its high production value and scripted dialogue revealed it as a "phony" setup.

catman· traffic stop· viral video· harris-walz· satire

2:36:48 These weird things, ah crap 1919. We don't use all these... You said it again! Yeah 19... Last show you said it. We're 19-0 we're equal now. So it's just something of... I'm not competing with you Okay since we're not competing then I will move on to an excellent short report from the BBC Wait before you go since you brought up the Screwball character notice I use the word screwball. Yes characteristics of a good one good one Thank you, thank you. Uh I do have the clip they'd bonus clip that we might as well play I believe this is a staged bit But it looks like it's real as a cop pull some guy over and he's in there's being recorded by the partner sitting In the other seat

2:37:34 And it's the Catman clip that you have there in front of you. You do currently have a California driver's license, but don't have a physical copy on you at the moment? That is my preferred method of identification. And this is... It's a cat caller and I'm currently identifying as a cat Fair enough. The information here on the tag I'm assuming belongs to you, the boyfriend? That's so rude! I hope you know I am recording Well it wasn't my intention to offend you but he just identified as a cat and your wearing a Harris Walsh T-shirt So forgive me if i came to conclusion that you guys are involved in some sort of homosexual arrangement Im not mad that you think we're together But your using gender language Besides im not his boyfriend...im his owner

2:38:13 Okay, well look we can do this the hard way if you'd like. I can have this car towed because last i checked a cat is not licensed to operate motor vehicle in the state of California We can have animal control come get you take it to a shelter where your owner can retrieve you for a fee of $70 after you're given the necessary immunizations which do include a rabies shot possibly even spayed or neutered whichever you prefer identify with uh Is that what you guys want to do here? I don't know, i don't have 70 dollars. Sir, I can also request that a mental health care professional come down here on scene and do an evaluation of you because your considering letting him take a rabies shot rather than just give me an ID use some manners so I can give you your ticket move along Yeah... That was pretty staged

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

APEC Summit, Joe Biden and Xi Jinping Meeting

President Joe Biden met with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the APEC summit in Lima, Peru. The meeting occurred as China inaugurated a new $1.3 billion deep-water port in Chancay, signaling its expanding influence in South America. Observers noted the "bad optics" for the U.S., as Biden was positioned in the back of the family photo while Xi appeared as a dominant global leader during Biden's "swan song" tour.

joe biden· xi jinping· apec· peru· chancay port

2:38:56 It was really staged by God it goes around as a serious clip Yeah, which but I'd like to play these phony. Yes you guys you know yeah with your Substitute for the AI clip of the day with your setup up. I don't know if it's real or not Boy wait I keep falling for it John Let's talk about China. We need that pivot, BBC is all over it. The leaders of the world's two biggest economies, the US and China have met on the sidelines of a summit in Peru A day after both leaders warned of turbulent times ahead Again on the sidelines? Why not just meet at the summit? Why this secret sideline bit

2:39:38 It's likely to be the last time that President Joe Biden and his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping meet in person before Donald Trump takes over from Mr. Biden in January. Mr. Xi told Mr. Biden that China would quote strive for a smooth transition in relations with the US Mr. Trump has threatened to impose tariffs of up to 60% on Chinese imports at a time when China's economy is already struggling Steve Tsang, the director of the China Institute at SOAS University here in London says nothing will change now until mr. Trump takes over

2:40:13 The United States have been briefing that they're going to use the occasion to challenge China on issues where they have concerns, things like hacking human rights violations threats against Taiwan. But as you say this is really part of the Biden swan song and You know President Xi doesn't have to worry about things like term limits He's very secure in his position and you can sort of feel the Chinese sort of metaphorically already looking over Joe Biden shoulder at the incoming Trump administration And what that might mean for them? Well, what might that mean for them? The fact they're meeting in South America where China has expanded its influence in recent years is significant too for the Trump administration because This is a region that the US has long regarded as its backyard.

2:40:59 Yeah, I mean President Xi inaugurated this deep-sea port about 40 miles north of Peru before the meeting today and that was really sort of symbolic of the way the Chinese have spread their economic influence into what is almost sort of the United States' backyard. And a real sign of their growing influence in the region and something that clearly the United States is going to be very much aware of This whole summit was a big FU to America They did it in Peru, they... Oh this is our new port. And it was not Joe Biden who attended It was Daddy Longlegs They put him in the back of the family photo and he towered above everybody once again This is not Joe Biden! They're sending some imposter out And this guy I mean this must be his farewell tour because he's out of a gig

2:41:54 And I have a feeling that, you know who's going to pay him to still show up and do stuff after the transition? He'll probably just be out of a job and then they'll have to let us know that the real Joe Biden is dead. No, that's always possible too. I mean this is clearly a farce. I have one clip on the same thing there's thoughts it were with why for some reason i don't know why got that in their thoughts on the Peru meetup Meet up hi thanks uh for having me uh it won't hold any value for the U.S It'll be just the opposite it's bad optics for the US it's great optics for China but I don't see barring any others

2:42:37 special arrangement between Biden and Xi Jinping, there's no real benefit for Biden showing up. So you just said it would be the opposite. Tell me more about that and what do you think this last meeting between she and Biden is really about then? Well I think from Biden's perspective it's a legacy play at least he wants to have one last shot on the world stage and looking presidential so forth but the optics are bad for the US because look at the comparison China has just provided funding for a 1.3 billion dollar port for Peru, um... The audience is not just Peru but all of South America and certainly China bolsters disease image in china and and the rest of world And what's the rest of world seeing? Well they're seeing engaged China

2:43:27 in South America and they're seeing a weak, ineffective and losing president with minimal cognitive abilities meeting him. It's bad optics it's not... there is nothing gained here from the US perspective in terms of legacy influence and so forth." And he wasn't even incoherent I saw him speak He spoke very well at this conference But, you know they put him at the back like the big oaf retard. Sorry to say it but that's what they do with him. Yeah he looked around funny. He gave us funny looks. But it's not him!

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Ukraine War, Zelensky and Trump Peace Prospects

President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that the war in Ukraine will "end faster" under the policies of the incoming Trump administration. Currently, ferocious fighting continues in the Kursk region, where 50,000 Russian and North Korean troops are attempting to dislodge Ukrainian forces. Zelensky emphasized that any peace deal must be "just" and provide security guarantees to prevent future Russian aggression.

volodymyr zelensky· donald trump· kursk· russia· peace negotiations

2:44:05 Anyway, we probably have three more clips. I see you have two that pertain to the...I think this will be the last topic and we have similar clips. I'll kick it off with ABC Tonight ferocious fighting underway in Kursk The border area of Russia Ukrainian forces took over earlier this year as President Zelensky predicts the war will end faster under the policies a president-elect Trump 50,000 Russians supported by North Korean soldiers and weaponry now trying to drive Zelensky's men out of Russia. And the Russians also advancing on the front lines inside Ukraine in the eastern Donbass and northeastern Kharkiv regions. But in a new interview Zelensky saying for us a just peace is very important so there'd be no feeling that we lost our best people for the sake of an injustice imposed upon us. The war will end but there's no exact date

2:44:54 But Trump has vowed to end the war quickly. We're gonna work very hard on Russia and Ukraine It's gotta stop Russia and Ukraine's got a stop but for now Russian attacks on civilian areas Incessant as Ukraine readies to negotiate with Trump Above all Ukraine wants security guarantees, but at what cost nice little nat pop in there ABC Yeah, Zelensky's telling everybody. And by the way the Ukrainian government has said you get this peace deal done or you're out because he's not even president anymore They don't have a president they've know they would day he canceled the Democratic elections Yes democracy their demarcation must live on I do have one other topic I do want to play that of the clips I had there only really good one is too Wow Russian gas story and Russia hold it sorry

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Russian Gas, Austria Supply Cut and Energy Prices

Russia's Gazprom halted natural gas deliveries to Austria following a payment dispute, though flows to Hungary and Slovakia continue. Austria's Chancellor Karl Nehammer insisted the country would not be "blackmailed" and has prepared by diversifying its supply through Germany and Italy. The cutoff marks the near-total end of Russian gas dependence for Western Europe, though critics note that non-Russian gas often comes at a significantly higher cost.

gazprom· austria· ukraine· natural gas· energy crisis

2:45:47 And I was just going to say, I do want to play the M-PAC story. Okay Russian gas story first and Russia halted gas supplies to Austria today in a dispute over payments but was still pumping steady volumes to Europe via Ukraine for the short term here's that story. Russia halted gas deliveries to Austria on Saturday hours after Vienna said Moscow had given notice it would cut off flows But Russian state-owned gas giant Gazprom continued to pump steady volumes to Europe via Ukraine. Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer said on Friday Austria was prepared, we will not let ourselves be blackmailed by anyone he said not even Russian President Vladimir Putin. Moscow's gas flows to Europe are soon to end

2:46:34 One of the last main routes, a Soviet-era pipeline via Ukraine is due to shut down at the end of this year. Supply to Austria was through a transit agreement that Ukraine had with Gazprom —a deal that Ukraine said it decided not to extend aiming to deprive Russia of profits that Ukraine says helped to finance the war against it. Austrian energy company OMV said it had been preparing for the eventual cut-off of Russian gas and can serve its customers by importing gas via Germany, Italy and The Netherlands On Saturday Austria's energy regulator E-Control said Gazprom deliveries to OMV had stopped adding that prices and supplies to Austrian customers were steady

2:47:15 Russia, which before the Ukraine war was the biggest single supplier of natural gas to Europe has lost almost all of its European customers as the EU tries to reduce its dependence. Moscow will now only supply significant gas volumes to Hungary and Slovakia The US has become the world's top gas producer and is expected to expand production There you go. So the only place you're gonna get cheap energy is going to be Slovakia and Hungary because they're not idiots Everyone else is gonna pay six times as much for just cuz we had to transport the gas over there on a ship Yep, this is ridiculous Meanwhile that course Germany had all these nukes they could have just been go all electric They can pull that off but no no somehow those guys

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Mpox Outbreak, California Case and Media Omissions

Health officials confirmed a case of a deadlier strain of Mpox in California, linked to travel from East Africa. Additionally, Oregon reported its first human case of bird flu associated with a poultry farm. Critics argue that mainstream media reporting on Mpox continues to omit the primary transmission demographic—men who have sex with men—which they claim is essential information for public health awareness.

mpox· cdc· california· bird flu· media bias

2:48:05 Shut down these guys are idiots. They're too busy arresting civilians for making fun of their politicians This was it there's like they're following the UK Arresting people you said something mean about The finance minister boom you're arrested an old dude some pensioner is this true Long live America I smell freedom its freedom and so we have the just as a heads up for people Although I think this is gonna go nowhere. This is the new, the disease report for this week Federal health officials are sounding the alarm They confirm a deadlier form of mpox has turned up in California The CDC announced today that person diagnosed with the disease recently traveled to East Africa where an mpox outbreak is ongoing The patient has undergone treatment and is currently isolating at home

2:49:03 California and the CDC are working to identify any people who may have come in contact with a patient. Mpox was previously known as monkey pox. It's a viral disease related to the smallpox virus, it can spread quickly through close contact people who contract mpox will experience fever chills tiredness headache and muscle weakness A rash often will accompany those symptoms when the CDC also confirmed yesterday that an Oregon resident tested positive for avian influenza this marks the state's first human case of bird flu

2:49:40 The infected person was linked to a poultry farm in Clackamas County. There, the virus had already been found in 150,000 chickens according to Oregon's health authority. This latest human case in the United States brings this year's total to 52 infections across seven states. There is no evidence of person-to-person transmission so far though and state health officials said the risk of avian flu to the general public remains low Was this a local California report? Believe it or not, that was NTD. Oh no I believe it! I'm disappointed in NTD and all the reporting about MPOX They are leaving out very important detail on the reporting. I am sure you have it for us.

2:50:27 that the majority of people who have it in this country are men who have sex with other men. Men who have sex with men Male to male sexual contact Men, who have sex with men Male to male sexual contact Men, who have sex with men Men, who have sex with men Men, who have sex with men Men, who have sex with other men Men, who have sex with men Men, who have sex with men Men, who've had sex with men Men, who have sex with men Where's that? What happened to that? I don't know. Seems like an element of the story was left out for some reason... I don't like it! If it's spread between men who have sex with men, we need to alert our Men Who Have Sex With Men! Yeah well there are a few around… I'm gonna show my skull by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab! Yeah on NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Matt the Bard Knight

Matt Bartlett was officially knighted as "Sir Matt the Bard Knight Troll of the Diminished State" after completing a long-term "layaway" donation plan. The ceremony included the traditional reading of the "hookers and blow" list and the granting of a signet ring for sealing correspondence. Bartlett, a Michigan resident, noted that his title reflects both his status as a former "lurker" and his hope for a smaller federal government.

knighthood· matt bartlett· layaway plan· signet ring· roundtable

2:51:25 Still to come, meetup reports end of show mixes and of course a double tip of the day why would you go anywhere keep it right here lock it in and rip the knob off. Also... Rip the knob off! Old radio thing also we have two nights to bring up on The Roundtable but first John will go through a very short list of people of $50 and above who supported the show this for this episode Yeah, curiously it starts off with Alan Bean up there. He's a... Baron, he's in Beaverton Oregon. He came at the 11111 and I didn't get a note from him that I recall but he always, he's the $50 donor that's right from the very early days said well I'm gonna give you 50 bucks as long as this show continues to be good and he always did every month he would send in $50 and every so often he'd send it a bonus amount because he liked something. So we did something good for him but nobody else it looks like

2:52:23 Sir Dodd, Frenswood Texas came in with 105.35 He was overboard for three to four years Wow! Imagine Lucas Williams in Roswell New Mexico yes $100 Kevin McLaughlin there he is right at the top of the list 8-0-0-8 Boob donation He's Archduke of Luna lover of America and boobs Jason Sheppard in Trinidad, Colorado also 8008 and demands four more years. Sir Rick in Arlington Washington 6996 Stephen Tucker in Vanongo Nebraska 5547 he misses the clippity-clop. What did we all do? She's gone. She's a goner

2:53:07 James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey 5510 Forrest Scott Brinkley in North Canton Ohio 5272 Natalie Martin in Snohomish Washington 5272, Sir Economic Hitman in Tombill Texas. 5001 Easy Landscapes in North Stonington Connecticut 50 bucks Oh these are all 50 bucks All four of them Yeah Easy Landscapes Michael Peratt in Salem Oregon Philip Ballou and Louisville Kentucky Chris Lewinsky I guess there's more than four Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park Alberta because here is

2:53:52 Samuel Dank in Lincoln, Nebraska is a birthday call out for his son. He also wants Jobs Karma Forum he says it's hard out here for a handyman you think that handyman would be or people doing it all themselves these days? Well maybe in Nebraska they are rather than California they're not and last on our list is Sir Jerry Wingenroth Ian Sagas California that's a $50 donors want to thank all these people for making show 1713 day a reality We could have done better, but we'll do better than the next show I hope and thank you to anyone who came in under fifty dollars for reasons of anonymity additionally want to thank all of our sustaining donors who go to know agenda meetups comm and Give us any donation in recurring format. Any amount? Any frequency it's all up to you It is value for value. We give you the value

2:54:42 No plus bonus packages, no bundles. No nothing just pure premium content all the way for you Thank you for supporting us here at episode 1713 jobs jobs jobs and jobs No agenda donations calm It's your birthday, birthday. On Noah's agenda Yes let me see we have David Kekta November 7 Delta Romeo kilo turned 46 on Friday the 15th happy birthday to him one of our end-of-show mixers also birthdays Jasmine McMahon wishes her son Ryan a happy one he turned 9 on the 15th

2:55:26 And Samuel Dank says happy birthday to his son, Joseph. Just got some jobs karma for him Turned 14 on November 16th Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! No title changes we do have one knight it's a layaway Knight that would be Matt Bartlett who says greetings I write to claim my knighthood on my layaway plan please name me sir Matt the Barts Knights troll of the diminished state to explain the troll part of that title. I am usually a lurker but i recently came to learn from you guys that a troll is actually a higher status than their lurker or a spook which is a monetized lurker The diminished state part of the claim has multiple meanings prior to 2024 election, I thought our future was not so shiny post-2024 elections it reflects the hope for smaller future government. I live in Michigan A Diminished State started listening when I heard Adam on Rogan on

2:56:20 in January of 22 and started my layaway plan after listening to your first podcast shortly afterwards. I am not a douchebag! Value for value!" And he says, uh... Could i have some retirement karma? Uh yeah of course you can. You've got karma. And we might as well bring him right up with the sword for me and you've got oh that's nice that's pretty look at this one whoa Come on, Matt Bartlett. Step on up brother! You have completed your journey with a layaway knight status all the way It's the same as any old knight we bring you right up I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Matt The Bard Knight Troll of the Diminished State for you sir We have hookers and blow We got prostitutes and cigars Rent boys in Chardonnay

2:57:10 Which is tasty. Diet soda and video games, you might be into that Redheads and Ries Organic macaroni and plasticizers Cowgirls and coffin varnish It's very tasty Rubenesque women in rose, Geishas in sake Vodka Manila bong hits in bourbon Sparkling cider in escort Ginger ale in gerbils Breast milk in pablum Or... mutton in mead You sir can head over to noagendarings.com and take a look at that Signet ring which will be in the mail to you as soon as we get your information, We do need your ring size there's a ring sizing guide on that website along with the address and it comes with wax which you can use to impress your signet ring to seal your important correspondence And of course a certificate of authenticity Congratulations welcome to The Roundtable our brand new knight Sir Matt the Bart right here on The No Agenda Show

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Meetup Reports, Bastrop to South Korea

Listener meetups were reported from across the globe, including a "small but mighty" gathering in Bastrop, Texas, and an 18-person event in Shakopee, Minnesota. Other reports came in from Colorado, Missouri, and a "Land of the Morning Calm" meetup in Busan, South Korea. These events are promoted as a way for "producers" to build local networks, following the show's mantra that "connection is protection."

no agenda meetups· bastrop· colorado· minneapolis· busan

2:57:56 No agenda, mira! Yeah, the NOA Agenda Meetups is where you can meet your fellow producers. You connect with them connection is protection we all know it's true they are your first responders in an emergency you want to have these people in your life guaranteed once you go to a meet up you will want to go to another one noagendameetups.com Sir Daniel runs that site and you can add your meet ups there you can find them search by area by zip code by country We finally got the Bastrop County meetup report from Dame Slamy. We couldn't figure out what had gone wrong with her email, but she sent it again and the Bastrop locals meet up was small but mighty in attendance were Black Dame Loka and her keeper my dude Sir Doonchick

2:58:44 Doodachink, doodachink. Sir Brian with an I, Sir Julian Duke of Bastrop Jim and John And we hit another guy in the mouth! Sir Brian was supposed to help me with an audio report But we both forgot Apologies if anyone's got the title wrong It was a great evening of connection celebration Long live the Bastrop region of Gitmo Nation Love is lit Dame slay me And here's a report from Colorado. Gathering of the tribes, Colorado meetup? What the hell are we gonna do with all these eggs?! Colorado Care Bear having the best time at O'Malley's historic O'Malleys in Palmer Lake And this is M. Andrew Jones. Yeehaw! O'Malley's rocks! This is Jessica in the morning, this is Dame Elevation In the morning we're back Josh Ascension from North Aurora just checking in to see how everything is going in the hill country TooManyEggs.com Go! My resume looks like shit What the hell am I gonna do? Call Linda Lou Paquin! Yeah!

2:59:41 That's what I love about the no agenda nation community. Here is a report from Minneapolis. Ryan Heck here reporting on the Minnesota Wellness Check held Saturday, November 16th 2024 at O'Brien's Pub in Shakopee, Minnesota We had an incredible turnout of 18 wonderful human resources which proved that connection truly is protection Go podcasting. This is Eric, not PP. This is Aaron Rorke in the morning. Sir Derek, not the spook! This is Christina in the morning. Hey Vanessa in the morning having a great time? This is Mark I voted for Trump because the world doesn't deserve Tim Walz. Dane Jesse Lee sorry about the audio bro. Yes Kevin in the morning.

3:00:30 Dr. Hammer in the morning. Eric PP, Maranat's Sir Eagle Eye, TooManyEggs.com. Katie Tooney in the morning printing John C. Dvorak's money! Hey, remember to tip your servers and get them on the meetup reports as well. Springfield Missouri come on in! In the morning John and Adam this is Dustin coming from Bear's Sports Bar & Grill in Springfield Missouri we just had a great meetup and I'm gonna pass the phone around and everybody's gonna say hello hey in the morning this is Brinkmania This is Sir Dilsaber? This is Ma'am Dilsaber...in the morning

3:01:10 In the morning, this is Brenda. Reverend Dr Pfeiffer in the morning guys! In the morning to y'all The Ocala Glass Bottom Boat Tour meetup is underway That was at the Reiki Princess Let me see... Yes that's taking place right now Apparently the glass bottom boat is a big thing down there And they're also going to have lunch later. Well, they probably already had lunch... They're already done I guess! Send us a meetup report The Black Hills NOAH agenda meet up is underway in Spearfish South Dakota as we speak at Crow Peak Brewing the too many eggs dot com keyed New Hampshire Meet Up under way We have the Land of the Morning Calm meet-up that'll be oh thats in Korea so they've probably already finished up I hope we get a meetup report for them uh..in Busan

3:02:02 On Thursday, the Bitcoin Beach Meetup. Oh that'll be in Sunset Bar at El Zante El Salvador Pablo make sure you get everybody recorded send us a meet-up report The No Agenda New York City number 7 at Bunk Bar Cafe New York, New York Yep, there's still producers hanging out there. North Georgia monthly meetup six o'clock Cherry Street Brewing on Thursday Alpharetta Georgia and Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday will be on Thursday of course seven o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina just a few of the NOAA agenda meetups taking place all around Gitmo Nation Connection is protection go to noagendameetups.com you can't find it meet up near you start one yourself it's always awesome

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Double Tip of the Day, Burn Relief and Car Organization

The "Double Tip of the Day" featured two practical recommendations: the "Drop Stop" rubber insert to prevent items from falling between car seats, and "Ching Wan Hung," a Chinese herbal balm for treating severe burns. One host shared a personal story of the balm's effectiveness after a kitchen accident involving a hot pan. The show concluded with birthday shout-outs and a reminder of the next broadcast on Thursday.

drop stop· ching wan hung· burn balm· amazon· kitchen safety

3:02:42 Man, I gotta tell you. I fell down on the job. I hope you have ISOs. I only have one and it probably sucks. Hey! Glad to be here. Told ya That's a beginning to show thing. It's not an end I know it's no good. I've told you all right Let's start you have enough let's start with the with their bonus ISO, which is that I so you'd know agenda one Okay Download it now. No agenda where's that from?

3:03:28 Where is it from? Download it now. No agenda. Oh, it's from the lefties list one of the Australian things guys bragging about his own podcast and he says no agenda as though He has no agenda but he's not yeah. Well that's no good It was it was it was muddy anyway Yeah, all right try this Cannot do better we can't do better than that nope Okay That's a very good one strong contender yes clear And now we have what was. What was that all about? Yeah, yeah, reasonable... and then the wow Wow best show ever

3:04:09 Not bad, not bad but come on. We can't do better than that! Nope That's an end of show I saw if ever heard one. I think it's great Yeah, I think it's perfect And now ladies and gentlemen are you ready for a double tipper? Get ready It's John's tip of the day! Great advice for you and me Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam All right, two tips. John you're up so I'm giving you the priority today and iIm using a contributed tip which I think is a great one Okay One of our producers sent this in and it's a product You can get on Amazon and elsewhere It's called drop stop. It's a rubbery thing that you stick

3:04:54 in your car between the seat and the console, and it goes over the... Drop stop. Seat belt collector. Oh! And it keeps you from dropping junk down that area. Here's why I like this idea because some time ago a couple years ago when I was eating at ice cream bar It's like a popsicle stick but it has an ice cream with the stick. It has the stick, right? With the ice cream on it and I... In The Lexus?! In 30 year old Lexus?? Yeah! Yes, exactly. I always say yeah, I'm never gonna eat food in this car But I always do you did yep So I did something wrong I bit it and a chunk of the ice cream fell and as I was trying to catch it You almost actually bumped it knocked it they went right between the seat and the council down Oh No, so when I got ice cream down at the bottom there

3:05:48 I'm thinking, oh no. And I try to dig it out and got my hand down there and I got some of the ice cream with the chocolate coating and it was making a huge mess and it was just a disaster. This product Drop Stop is the way to go Available on Amazon. Drop stop, yeah it could catch your I mean if you dropped... It would have saved a hassle with me and this melted ice cream Yeah if you drop your joint you'll catch it I mean all kinds of important stuff Well in your case Not anymore! It's almost... You know it'll be two years Two years without any even vaping? No vaping but no tobacco no weed two years

3:06:32 Probably Thanksgiving. Yeah, almost a Thanksgiving. Well my tip I think this is a banger! Um...I've had this stuff for a long time but never had because you know when i'm cooking sometimes like we'll get something out of the oven and you know like hit the hit the grate or something little kitchen burns they happen all the time at least with unprofessional chefs like myself but on Wednesday Tina was making something she had a pan in the oven, you know just a regular old pan with a steel handle whatever it's made of and She took it out And then I can't remember what she was doing when she got distracted and she grabbed the handle full-on to pick it up and move it

3:07:22 And I'm in the studio and I hear, oh whoa whoa whoa! She was like just...and I knew exactly what...I said oh my god she burned herself. And I run to the drawer as she's on her way and I smear immediately on her hand, on the palm of her hand and her fingers which were this would have been a severe burn. I smear on it the Qing Wan Hung Soothing herbal balm for burns. Now, I've had this in my travel kit. I have it in the kitchen It's a little tube again chin one hung. I don't know how do you spell it? Chin as in a Ching. I'm sorry Ching as ch ing Juan W A N Hung as in me and You can get a little tube for $9.99. I think on Amazon wherever you want to get it is available everywhere I have no idea how it works

3:08:20 But you put that on a burn, this was severe burn. Put that on the burn right away! You gotta do it right away. The pain goes away and there's no scarring It's unbelievable... This stuff is magic I'm getting some I don't know what's in it? I don't know how it works Who cares?! I mean this truly everybody needs this in their kitchen You should have it for any type of burnt as long as you get it on quick And I've been using this for years and never thought about it until... This would have been a bad one. You know how you, if you ever grab the handle of a pan out of the oven that will leave a scar or burn and it'll be painful for days. Nothing! Nothing at all. This is magic stuff. Okay? And that is your Double Tip Of The Day! I can't believe how good it is only on your NO Agenda show

3:09:15 Created fast for you and me. Just a tip with JCB, and sometimes Adam. Go to Tipoftheday.net or noagendafund.com to learn more about these tips of the day They're handy around the house I'm just saying could save you could save you in big ways Alright, we do have some good end of show mixes coming up. Deez Laffs David Kekta celebrating his birthday on Friday Jeffrey Crocker who's kind of new to the mix We love Jeffrey and for those you wanted more Clippity-clop yes She will be represented perfectly here also coming up next on your modern podcast app or troll room dot IO we have Let me see...we've got Canary Cry News Talk Yes Those guys are good

3:10:09 They're also value for value. Support those guys, value for value! We will return on Thursday with more media deconstruction for you not part of the culture war economy no we just give you a service that keeps you calm and collected and helps you get outside and smell the freedom coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Dan from Northern Silicon Valley where we give a shout out to the Oregon Ducks! I'm John C. Dvorak Meet us here again on Thursday for more No Agenda deconstruction Remember us at noagendadonations.com Until then adios mofos! Ahoy hoy and such.

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

End of Show Mix, Media Deconstruction and Sign-off

The final segment featured an audio montage deconstructing media narratives surrounding Kamala Harris and past conspiracy theories like "Pizzagate." The hosts emphasized the importance of exposing media lies and maintaining a calm, analytical perspective on world events. The episode closed with the standard sign-off, directing listeners to the show's website and donation portal for continued support.

kamala harris· pizzagate· media lies· adam curry· john c. dvorak

3:11:08 It's been a year since BB was so-called surprised Scattering Palestinians from homeland, severing family ties To US assassination attempts Israel keeps on bombing neighbors not feeling biblically heaven sent What kind of China spies like us are really here? Legit Chinese police stations in Toronto funny likes I get Shout out to my fellow Libras to my vitiligo peoples call them Winnie Harlows or my zebras. There will be concerted efforts to distort and pervert Kamala Harris, who she is what she stands for what she's done I mean look the crazy story about me running a child trafficking operation out of a pizzeria don't laugh! Don't laugh It was a huge story

3:11:59 And it got one young man in North Carolina to get in his car with his assault rifle and drive up to liberate these non-existent children, and shoot up a pizzeria in Washington D.C.. This is dangerous stuff! It starts online often on the dark web, it migrates, its picked up by the pro Trump media, then reported on by everybody else which makes sure that has about 100% coverage People believe it. So I don't know what it's going to be, but it will be something and we'll have to work very very hard to make sure that it is exposed as the lie that it is. So anybody who has taken civics understands that when you control all three branches of government with a political party It's much more challenging to have checks and balances And so if there's an unlawful order given to United States military I expect that uniformed military will not carry out unlawful orders

3:12:55 The wolf stuff is everywhere. I feel like i'm walking on eggshells, heard that all the time. Eggshell! Men and women are different Get in there and shut them down! I mean did you ever think you'd see literal Hitler? In the Oval Office Come on guys With the President of United States You know what I've seen all this? It's got to be Biden and Chris! Men and women are different It was the undercredit campaign that warned us Donald Trump is a fascist. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells The intelligence community needs to take their focus away from the American people and place it where it belongs, on the Chinese Communist Party And shut them down! I appreciate that people are having hard time Me too Yeah I work for a living I am working person You know?

3:14:05 I literally just work here. I'm sorry, I appreciate that people are having a hard time meeting you. I know it's hard out there. I'm not tense, I just want to say that but also know as it turns out I am not normal and something will come to me soon And thank you all for watching. I appreciate that people are having a hard time. Me too! I come to work, and then...I smile and then I go home.

3:15:08 I know people always say you never include the people at home. Well now i am thank you too my impression is yes that whoopee can always find very profitable work Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A We can't do better than that! Nope