Shysters Show Up

00:01 Madam Speaker, the President of the United States. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's January 28th 2010 time for your Gibbon Nation Media Assassination Episode 169-er This is no agenda Exposing the boils on the ass of America and coming to you live from the Minimum Security Containment Cell Crackpot Command Center in Gibbon Nation West San Francisco California In The Morning I'm Adam Curry And You Heard Him Say it MIMMUMUM I am in Northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak

00:39 No, clearly the Skype connection is so crappy that you think I'm saying m-m-m-mm. You did! I said minimum Okay, I was fine. Let the audience be the judge Well, you know what? I'm just gonna make you sound like crap today through this Skype Oops! Oh it worked! The chat room went crazy on us they think we should do a sitcom We'd have to change it wouldn't be it wouldn't be crackpot and buzzkill would be the big dick and buzzkill The big I mean the Big Dick well yeah, I guess you know anatomically. You're correct

01:23 But enough about me. And you shouldn't be such a grump considering we have four executive producers today Wow, okay lay it on me big boy who we got executive producing the show? Well the executive executive executive producer is Tanya Wayman who is from New York City and she's been building her way up to knighthood with nickel and dimes, and she said screw it. And finished the job off with $662.20 to be exact. Should we do the ceremony right now? I think you should! Tanya from New York right? Yeah. Okay hold on a second... Tanya from New York City! I hereby knight you Dame Tanya!

02:09 I hope we didn't hurt her. That sounds like you chopped her head off! No, that's only on the shoulders... It's okay, you can stand up Tanya. Jeez That's cool. Well, welcome to Damedom or knighthood whichever we call it and the first to receive the official knighthood ceremony Yeah, that took you a while huh? You gonna bitch about that too old man? Let's see $385.80 from Jordy Ramirez in Cancun

02:47 And he's also a night layaway, but he was... He'll get there pretty soon right? He'll get there soon. I had to wait two more weeks! One more time and then he'd be in. So he is our associate executive producer and then of course you have another one that's working on this, Spongberg Enterprises are friends from Alberta Spongberg Enterprises, what do they do John? Sponberg I don't know. He never says huh but he wants the publicity. He's up there in Alberta Rocky Mountain House to be exact and yes she has a request And which is what is Adams rigging? Well, they want to copy it. I laughed when I read that one By the way you're getting worse by the second the rig is fine its John's connection that is the part that sucks Yeah, um, you know what? I've started documenting it but it's it's It's complicated. This is very I don't even know how to document it people go like huh How do I do that?

03:52 He's basically what he's done is he's jerry-rigged his Macintosh into a mixer, recorder and when it shows it to you its like... You might as well shoot yourself if you think your gonna copy it. Yeah But they could use your microphone that would probably be a start. Yeah, that's good I mean, I want to document all of this God John it's unbelievable we you call in It sounds great and then well let's get through the the executive producers no bitch about right last is go goes Michael Go go Michael go-goes. I think is sorry Michael go-goes 284 and he is from Tokyo hey excellent

04:36 Wow, okay. Well it's fantastic. Good morning Ava just walked in well that's fantastic we've got Three executive producers for this show the top dog being Tanya from New York City the Executive producer. I'm just filling out the credit role here and then of course the associate executive producers Jordi Ramirez Spongberg Enterprises and Michael gogos from from Tokyo, you know the deal put this on your resume Pull out the snippet from this recording if you need to back it up and you're guaranteed to get jobs Jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs And it really works even even people who have not put on their On their resume have just gotten jobs by donating to the show they got a job right we've proven this karma indeed So I'm just not gonna say anything more about the quality of your

05:40 of your connection. I don't see anything going on. How many, look at it and tell me how many bits are you sending out? You can see that on the tab... Do you have a bandwidth monitor in the PC? Uh, you know, I have a really good one on the other PC but this one here just has whatever the network monitor says. It's just great if you come in great loud and clear then it goes dum-dum-dum steps right down to crap

06:16 So that's Skype saying on your end, saying oh I don't have a good connection. I've got to lower the bitrate It it's your Skype that's doing it That's let's put it that way Your Skype is lowering the bit rate Why is it my Skype? Because that's the way Skype works when my connection starts to fill up and like Mickey sends out a picture Then all of a sudden my Skype degrades the connection When your Skype degrades the connection, what does that do to me- to m- to me sounding good or bad? No it does nothing to you. Then you hear me sounding like crap!

06:55 You see? I've never heard you sounding like crap. Yes, yes you did the minute Mickey sent a picture a couple weeks ago... ...you said oh it just sounds like he went to shortwave! And i said hold on a second and I could see what was happening right here on the connection and she was sending out a picture my connection gets crunched then Skype starts to degrade the codec so its something in your place It's your son that commie He is sabotaging it. He's in Washington at the moment Well, he's VPN'd in somehow. So I'm not completely buying into your... although of course I have the new router so I have to change the port forwarding but I'm not completely buying this because it never happens when you're not in San Francisco! It does happen and it doesn't happen with anybody but you

07:49 Well, isn't that unfortunate that we'd have to do a show twice a week and it sucks? I think you need to move. I think YOU need to get something other than AT&T DSL Yeah if it was available... We went through that. I can't get anything Anyway! I'll just have to live with it Think so unfortunately the audience has to live with it. You shouldn't be so concerned well It's hard to hear you sometimes what this thing here? This is interesting little program called iPod service That listens who to your USB and if you connect an iPod then fires up your iTunes It keeps coming bouncing around where I don't like seeing that I think I'm gonna get rid of it You know what, I think you should just get a Mac

08:34 What's that gonna do? How is that going to change my Skype connection?" Well, I don't know. Because I know more about Macs than I can help you troubleshoot. It's Windows man! It's like there are all kinds of... it's always talking the home base its always doing something its communicating with the NSA and CIA You Know I truly believe that there is something in your system that is uploading. That's why it said Carbonite, you've got to have some online backup system or something that's firing up! Not on this machine there's really literally nothing on here yeah okay so what does NSA dot send home dot exe? hmm well wonder what that could be all right John let's get into the meat of this program It was funny to watch

09:23 All the tweets coming by last night, people are saying I know what they're gonna be talking about on no agenda. And I'm like do people really think that we're going to comment for a long while on that state of the union? Well, I took a lot of notes. Okay why don't you lay in with the notes and i'll comment back we have no sound clips from it? I don't think you have any... No there's no reason to take sound clips from it! I got sound clips but they don't have sound clips from that okay that would be dull the speech was dull enough yeah by the way something funny though that happened on Hannity Before you get into that, can I just say the timing of all this was so incredibly interesting. This State of the Union was actually postponed and they were going to do it on a different day and then they moved it to Wednesday And I'm pretty sure we can without doubt speak of the... The distraction of the week on the Woodsgender Seeing as Wednesday was not only the announcement of the iPad

10:27 Which these guys know that so many people on the internet are going to be preoccupied with the iPad, they won't have time to be preparing and thinking about the State of the Union. But also it was the testimony and grilling of the financial division of the government including little Timmy Geithner Hank Paulson about this scandal revolving around AIG and the backdoor bailout, and I'm pretty convinced that was timed specifically to cover that up.

11:04 Do you have some clips from that? Yeah, I do. But let's get into the State of the Union first Well before we get too deep into it...do you notice this is all done with pool cameras so everybody was shooting and sharing images Did you watch the whole thing and saw that one shot It was only done once that I can remember or that I saw Of the overhead shot that was straight and appeared to be coming from the dome itself. No, I didn't in fact i was watching C-SPAN and i was kind of disappointed later when i switched over uh...to look at some of the post game analysis you know then of course you get all the networks are in HD. I mean c-span is like they're shooting it with a flip cam. I don't know what kinda cameras they got. Yeah maybe its pool cam but dude

11:53 It was horrible and I don't think it was all the same cameras. I don't think it was all one pool Well, there may have been two pools with the pool hours watching which received me when used by CBS They were in great quality to see everybody yawning and they had a lot of nice shots of the audience Well, I did notice... And they caught a lot of interesting things like what were the all the military generals doing in front there? and they never clapped. They never got up. They never got down You know this particular event is probably 90% of the exercise most of these people get on year by year basis. Well... They're up! They're down! Up! They're down! Well, I saw that Republicans were sitting down most of the time. They weren't getting up a helluva lot

12:36 No, they got out once or twice but it was rare. But the generals never got up except when Obama brought up the VA. They got up! So I thought... The whole time I'm thinking these guys are never gonna get up because I guess you're not supposed to. But they did! Well he- Is it possible, now they must release this script before the president gets up and delivers it. And I'll tell you why. No no that this is already a well-known fact Hannity had it posted on his website the night before Okay good because I started getting CNBC iPhone app alerts about

13:14 It was one of the policies that Obama announced, you know. It's like maybe the freeze but it was something...it came like 10 minutes before he said it in his speech I got the alert and I'm like huh? He hasn't even talked about this yet! It was kind of weird and by the way You know what this show is missing because it IS a show It's missing Ryan Seacrest on the red carpet as everyone is coming in. That would be great! Hey, and what do you wear? What is this fine yellow outfit you have on? What was up with that all these women in yellow?! This is new! The yellow and red for the women...the guys all wore either dark navy a couple guy old farts had gray suits on from Brooks Brothers And all the ties were the same looking tie then all the shirts were either blue or

13:59 Or white there was no variation other than that it was it was ludicrous although I must say and producer listener Chris pointed this out Biden's tie matched Pelosi suit they coordinated Biden's tie was kind of a blue tie with stripes going in the opposite direction Of Obama's red tie correct. Yeah, that by the way is a mind-control trick. I think so and Pelosi she was worrying about 25 grand in pearls. Those things were bigger than my testicles! They were amazing! They're huge black and white pearls... She was wearing seal testicles around her neck, it was outrageous

14:41 and she had a very sedate kind of purplish whatever the hell she was wearing. It was matched! As opposed to all those women in the audience, they were only red or yellow. It was coordinated though I mean that they had totally what do you know I'm sure Pelosi called up Jill. Jill um what's he gonna wear? She probably did. Somebody's coordinating these outfits, yeah so here's the one that cracked me up in the whole speech the funniest thing by the way that overhead shot that you didn't get to see is unbelievable straight down on the whole thing with a super wide angle fisheye lens. Oh wow! It's astonishing and they only showed it once, maybe not supposed to show it at all I don't know it was screwy looking. It's just my imagination or does the president doesn't he usually come through the side door and he came down in the middle of the aisle this time?

15:31 Oh, you know that's funny. I think he has done both. Okay because Mickey is like oh he is going to come down the middle of the aisle and I'm like no he always comes through the side door and there was he came right down in the middle it was totally like the Oscars we were just missing Ryan Seacrest that all. Here is the funniest moment besides the guy getting up and down so he turns to Michelle and you have to kind of deconstruct this if you want to really appreciate It's pretty apparent if you've been following this first year that if Michelle Obama is allowed to go in her own direction with her own jet flying all over the world pigging out, she's going to be the size of a house. Did you see the dress that she was wearing? Yeah. Every woman knows that she has to wear these big dresses to hide her enormous ass.

16:26 Obama's assigned her the job of being in charge, in charge of some childhood obesity program. I know it was hilarious like she was giving him the stink eye over this oh yeah and she actually told everyone to sit down just sit down that's not funny. She gave him and he laughed about it but you gave him a glare that there was enough dissolve a block of ice instantly. Because obviously what he's done is, okay if you're going to be in charge of childhood obesity You're not gonna go out as a big fat woman. You gotta get rid of that butt baby! But I can hear the conversation and say oh yeah did you see that Peggy Hamburger who was in charge at the FDA? Now THAT'S FAT!! And by the way... People cant help being fat

17:15 No, but you can help from flying around and going from place to place and chowing down constantly. I mean... And then you can if you have to make actors and actresses that are naturally fat they control their weight pretty well because they got a role to play. So Obama's Michelle Obama has now got a role to play Yeah take some more classes come on thats what we hired you guys for to act! Act like it already The other thing was weird, was Pelosi. Two things were going on behind Obama One especially at the beginning you'd think that Biden was... You ever see that little monkey that has the symbols and you wind up in it? Ching ching ching ching yeah

18:01 That's what Biden was looking like. And Pelosi would have these crazy smiles, like a psychopath that would just crop up every so often. And the shot that I had on C-SPAN you could just see her mouth and the tip of her nose in the background the whole time which is a horrible shot and she'd go... It's like faker than Hollywood fake The smile that I mean and also, I do understand you're really self-conscious when you're up there You know like no people are looking at me the whole time. But yeah that smile is pretty crazy We had producer Kevin did a little tally for us because there were some changes in the script writing we Did not get a single Let me be clear. I don't think there was a single listen of

18:54 and only one look. Yeah, I remember the look yeah i remember that too but there are a couple of new ones that are slipped in there and this is from Kevin's note it seems like now and still followed by a pause has taken over now still make no mistakes were in there let me repeat remember this the word job was said at least five times work ten times A few of the job and works were not in context. In total, the word jobs Kevin says 20 times and after the end this is interesting that the timing of it because you know for people who've never seen a State of The Union it's kind of weird because Mickey was never I think never seen ones like what are they doing? It's like why do they keep clapping and standing up and sitting down and clapping? You think its high mass at the Catholic Church? Yeah waste of time

19:48 And so after they announced the president, it took four minutes until Pelosi introduced Obama followed by another 50 seconds of applause. 75 minutes total from the time Obama walked into the room until the speech was over and that time 24 minutes of applause followed by one minute applause after the speech ended which was short I felt and lackluster Yeah in general I thought there was less hooting and hollering and of course it was supposed to be kind of solemn I guess because everybody's hurting. So did he say that he wants the troops out by the end of August? And this is what got me, I even had Nick who works over at Mevio who was listening and kind of waking up to the guys like 30. He's kind of waking up and says hey wait a minute there is something going on in the world Is this what you guys talk about so he texts me saying oh you gotta admit that was a pretty good speech

20:47 You know, for people who can't really see through it and if you don't know the background yeah it sounds great when he says oh I'm gonna get the troops out. I'm gonna get the troops out by the... No actually said the combat troops will be out by August and by the end of his term that's four years all troops will be out. You can take that to the bank So of course we know the lie behind that is that this was going to be the first thing he was going to fix and take everybody out. And, the subtlety between combat troops and troops...and then how about contractors? That's not you know.. He should say I'm gonna get Blackwater out then i'd be standing up in applaudin' if he said that! Then there was the gays in the military it's like what's up with another empty vapid promise

21:35 It's like he keeps promising stuff. I noticed the generals didn't stand up and clap for that one. No, they were like what? What?! Hey wait a minute! That wasn't in the script He didn't say that And also they caught apparently CBS or one of the stations caught the Supreme Court Judge Ali Odo Yeah When Obama is bitching about the fact that they passed this you know They had a decision based on how much money corporations can spend on campaigns They're leaning over and saying this bullshit. Yeah, really? He said that's bullshit Well he said you know he says not true or something they caught him shaking his head and talking to the justice next To him that as though Bobo is full of crap oh no That's funny I didn't catch that Oh No idea what they had a shot of them on On c-span when he when he called him out but I Didn't see any of that. I was actually looking For some reason this link broke who's there the crazy Democrat

22:33 The one in Florida? Yeah, what's his name again? I don't remember. I can never remember that guys name. Uh well he... hold on i've got it here He's come out with a bill. This is crazy! This Thomas thing, it's like this guy's bill has changed locations on thomas.gov four times and now it doesn't exist. Okay I thought it was Bill HR4431 that's what I wrote in my show notes where he's proposing of 500% tax on corporations who want to spend money on media campaigns for elected officials

23:13 Of course it'll go nowhere. It's total grandstanding, but the idea is kind of funny I can't-I don't understand why uh...why i can't find it Oh here it is! Okay HR 4431 to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose a 500% excise tax on corporate contributions to political committees and on corporate expenditures on political advocacy campaigns. Grayson, Alan Grayson from Florida Yeah, Grayson that's his name You'll find that in the show notes at noagendashow.com Funny! I like it but you know useless No co-sponsors Hey, you don't say

23:56 Boy, that thing went away quick. It was like you know the media is not going to talk about that I gotta explain it to everybody how come no one talks about this well because who's the beneficiary of all that money? It's the media Of course they're not gonna talk about it. Of course not! I wouldn't. No! If we had sponsors and we wouldn't be talking about it We should mention that Yeah So yeah, it was just a but yeah, it was a speech right So here's another one I should mention. If people want to deconstruct this stuff, they should take a look at it. The Republicans are trying to get this right but it is so obvious when you watch it if anybody just actually thinks about it. They had Bob McDonald from Virginia, the governor of Virginia doing kind of a slip shot response

24:46 uh... at least it wasn't bobby jindal who basically screwed his chances of ever becoming a president. This is the republican response to the state of the union? Yeah, they had it in the Statehouse of Virginia which you know is kind of cool looking place But the thing was rigged in such a way that he's standing there at the podium and behind him are four people. There is one on the upper left, upper right lower left lower right and it was just like so staged It was worse than... I mean it was so obvious they had on the upper left was a black woman

25:22 on the upper right was some vague Asian looking guy. They had to have a gay guy in there, hopefully? He may have been gay and then in the lower... he may have been of dual purpose and then on the lower left He gets paid twice scale because he's a dual actor. And the lower left was some military guy in his uniform, bald and he could have been gay too for all I know and then on the lower right that was the lower left and the lower right with some hot chick that was nodding constantly Who was the hot chick then? I don't know. It's just some girl She's really attractive and she's sitting there nodding at everything this guy says, oh, I love it The whole thing is you can't well you couldn't watch it that much about looking at these four Goofballs right and of course nothing was actually said no he didn't say anything I don't think they were accurate all I'm doing notes I made was if they do have a website called solutions dot GOP gov

26:21 So I think... Oh, solutions. Solutions! What are they? An IT firm now? That's what it sounds like. They've got solutions. All right so meanwhile all this was covering up a whole bunch of other stuff and uh..I sat through a lot of C-SPAN over the past two days actually i have to go back Actually a week in time for something that I caught. A couple other people caught this on some of the, in some of the circles that I travel. Remember they had the whole slew up there? They had Napolitano, they had Leiter he's the guy who went on his ski vacation after the crotch bomber was caught

27:03 And one other jabroni was up there. So they were talking about, you know how can this get guy? How could this guy get through what's happening what's wrong with our airport security all the impetus of course to the introduction of backscatter and millimeter wave body scanners and This lighter says something really interesting about the watch list This is not the no flying lists but about the watch lists And I missed it actually and i watched this thing live and I kind of missed what he said. And just like to play that before we get into some the financial stuff, are you ready for that? Yeah! So this is a... I forget his first name. His name's Lighter He got really weird eyes and these freaky eyebrows. He always trying make funny jokes which fall completely flat. So here comes the question about these watch list how many people on it and what do we actually doing with these watch lists

27:58 How many that were on the watch list last year approximately, were allowed into the country? The one on the watch list? A very significant number. Just to give you a snapshot of course the watchlist is approximately 400 thousand names Out of those, I believe only approximately 14 thousand were selectees and only 4 thousand no-flies. So a very significant number would they have traveled to the United States at most would have been met at the border with some sort of secondary inspection? It would've been a large number that would not have been... That would've been allowed in. It would be a very large number eligible to come in whether or not they were ultimately turned away at the border. I can't give you that number

28:46 That's sort of instinctively troubling, is it not? Senator, I think... In one way it is, and I think that goes right back to the standards. Or what other standards? We set the standards so low that we really have too high a bar to get somebody into that no-fly select e-list before they get to our shores. I'm talking about the watch list who were allowed...we don't know exactly how many came into the country who were on the watch list No, I will tell you when people come into the country if they are on the watch list It is because we have generally made the choice that we want them here in the country for some reason or another. There you go What? Yep, You heard it correctly If they're on the watch list and they're let in That's because we want them to come in for some reason or another Listen to it again They are on the watch list It is because we have generally made the choice that we want them here in the country For some reason or another Alright There ya go One other uh So what's to say And of course this douchebag doesn't follow up on it Hello

29:46 The question is, was the crotch bomber on the watch list and did you let him in for some reason or another? That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard in terms of clips that you dug up. It's troubling, right? Well I don't know. It's baffling more than trouble...I guess it is troubling if what he says unless you just not particularly aware of what he was saying which is possible No! He's..I think he's very clear. He's saying people who are on the watch list don't get into the country unless we decide that we want them in for one reason or another which I guess could only be to follow them

30:29 You know, whatever. But that makes no sense! No it doesn't make any sense at all. Okay well I guess we'll have to... Obviously this guy's not going to follow up with an interesting question We're never gonna figure out the answer to that unless we got a hold of this guy and asked him Well this is of course is the problem with all these congressional hearings Is nothing ever comes of them Nothing ever happens No one ever, no one ever. Oh hold on a second John we just have a very important clip this is Reith Witherspoon during the Haiti telethon. Great well this is Reese Witherspoon and um we really appreciate your call you're calling in to donate for the Hope For Haiti program? Yes I am yes I am wonderful well

31:14 We are gonna have an operator get on the line and actually take your donation. Have you already spoken to an operator? Yes, I have okay great, thank you so much for your donation You can't even imagine how much love and great Wonderful energy is here today, and people are just doing everything they can to make a difference in these people's lives I'm just glad I could help out I couldn't donate a lot but what I did donate Oh crap this is the wrong one By the way, she's referred to by some people as greasy reason yeah. Yeah here's the one I wanted to play. I'm sorry

31:53 I suck. Yeah, yeah, yeah! Oh it's paining me to hear her again... Alright that joke sucked. I really blew it. I'm sorry. Yeah when we've all forgotten about it. I'm a douche Alright, let's get into the meat. You're not labeling your clips with enough... Nahh I'm able to and you're right i labeled it the wrong way. We gotta talk about little Timmy Geithner this is what I think the big cover-up was so this was pretty amazing there was a question whether Timothy Geithner was going to be called in to testify at all

32:39 I put the whole video, it's like two hours into the show notes. You can find it at noagendashow.com, curry.com, dvorak.org slash blog. I encourage you to watch it not that anything will ever come of it but if you want to understand the illegality the backdoor bailout if you really want to understand what happened, you have to watch this because nothing will happen to this guy. Maybe he'll resign or it's not going go to jail as he should but what is cool is that these congressmen or senators

33:18 They ask the questions, basically in their question they state the facts of what went down and then they you know then I asked is that true right? And then the guy just makes up some crap. and he lies about it. But if you want the facts as to what actually happened, you need to watch this stuff and listen to it It was kind of funny though how it started out So anyway so the guy has only two hours because he has an important meeting and he has to leave After 2 hours they're like well Mr Geithner we can only have one minute from each side of the room One minute for the Democrats, one minute for the Republicans cause Mr Geithner has a very busy schedule and he has to go

33:58 Like what? Waterboard this turd. So here he is after getting sworn in. Chairman Towns, Ranking Member Issa, members of the committee thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today I welcome the committee's attention to this issue And we will continue to work closely with this committee, with all other oversight bodies. Mr Secretary pull the mic just a little closer we're having trouble here I'm almost eating it! I know how's that? Thought that was pretty funny He is almost eating it! I am almost eating it! and then we get Issa and Issa asks him a question

34:39 And it's very clear that ISA listens to no agenda. Not only ISA, but Timmy Geithner's kids listen to no agenda and i have proof right here in the following soundbite. It is easier to read on the screen where are you on the AIG counterparty disclosure issue? Okay, I gotta set this up. So ISA is showing an email where a day before the news breaks Geithner sends an email to his quote replacement at the New York Federal Reserve and says hey man Where are you on this issue? What are we gonna do it basically like shit what are we gonna do about it? It's easier to read on the screen Where are you on the AIG counterparty disclosure issue long after your left You made this email

35:27 What was it about and what was the answer? Well, kind of you know this question of disclosure Was the subject a huge amount of controversy and most people think yeah That's what my son says and I agree with you Anyway The person who really nailed Geithner, and I got tons of clips. I don't think we should play them all because they're all a bit long but the one who really pegged him was Captor Nancy Captor and she's amazing She is a democrat by the way

36:11 And by the way, the Democrats equally as harsh on little Timmy Geithner. So there's definitely some plan to get him out and probably Paul Volckler is going to take over or something like that but she basically just kept making the connections between Tim Geithner and Goldman Sachs and it was just embarrassing Thank you Mr Chairman. Mr Secretary welcome can you provide for the record a copy of the recusal agreement that you signed when you were at The New York Fed? Timmy Geithner, this is the thing that's strange. He remained the president of the New York Federal Reserve which is a conglomerate of commercial banks while he was the advisor to the President and moving into his role as Secretary of the Treasury so we had to recuse himself. So Captor saying could you please provide a copy of the letter where you recused yourself? The definition of recusal John

37:08 Well, that means you've extracted yourself from a situation that would be a conflict of interest. I did not sign or recusal agreement. I withdrew from day-to-day management operations policies as the New York Fed and my colleagues both in Washington and in New York can attest to that So there was no formal agreement? No as I said in my testimony what I did is I withdrew from... And this was very important to do! How weird is that?! The guy recuses himself but he doesn't do it officially? Well, what he's claiming is that he quit so where difference does it make.

37:45 Well, but you kind of got to make that... He didn't quit. He was basically straddling he was in both places at the same time! He was still the president of the New York Federal Reserve Board but he didn't actually recuse himself if your accuse yourself you do that with a letter how hard can it be? Again no precedent for this sitting President of New York Fed being nominated Secretary of Treasury and I withdrew from after carefully consulting my colleagues from involvement in monetary policy decisions I did not go to the FOMC meeting in December, and I withdrew from all decisions about these individual cases involving the financial system and from day-to-day management. And that was the right thing to do at that time. Thank you for clarifying that. Number two, a lot of people think that the President of New York Fed works for U.S. government but in fact you work for private banks who elected you. No, that is no true!

38:36 For the record, the names of the handful of bankers on the board of New York Fed that elected you in 2003. That is a matter of public record and of course we can do that. Thank you very much. But Congresswoman, what you just said was not true I work in the public interest. Officials of the Federal Reserve work for the public interest and they work for the government But, people don't elect you The heads of the feds around the country don't elect you It's the individuals who sit on the board of New York Fed that elect you Is that correct? That is slightly more complicated than that You don't know how it works! It is very complicated This is not for American people to understand This is very complicated Alright I don't work for private banks, I work

39:29 their board but it requires the approval of the chairman of the Board of Governors in Washington for them to serve. So it is a delicate balance of checks and balances, and Congress designed that system. salary as if he was working full time so there's a conflict of interest there. He was, that's the whole point! He was working full-time as president of New York Federal Reserve not elected by the people she is about to tell us who elected him and he was receiving his salary and we know that he is very poor at paying taxes

40:07 And at the same time he was nominated to be the treasury of the secretary and then this bailout has to happen so he's in both places at once. He is the black widow, the spider in the middle. The private banks that elected you and I would like you provide that for the record please. Oh absolutely it's a matter of public records. The Cleveland Fed is not equal to New York Feds so I'm very interested in your answer to the record. Number three Goldman Sachs was the largest domestic recipient of funds in this AIG counterparty arrangement. Let me ask you, now as Treasury Secretary your Chief of Staff is the gatekeeper for access to you could you please provide his name?

40:43 His name is Mark Patterson. Thank you, and for whom did he work before you selected him as your Chief of Staff? He worked for the President's transition team. No before that which Wall Street firm did he work for? Before that again this is a matter public record and you know the answer to this question. He worked for Goldman Sachs but... Thank you very much. Yeah you answered my question Mr. Secretary. Now let me say this. The ARG... No, no, no. He was on the work for the president's transition team! I mean how obvious is it? He's trying to hide this... He was selling candy bars with the Girl Scouts that Saturday. Girl Scout cookies. You've answered the question. Shut up Timmy! Timmy! The AIG transaction was disturbing too many observers

41:30 Why did our government not require the bank creditors to take the lead and bear some of the cost in? Any plan to stabilize anyway, she goes on And you can you can see we've got to see this video if you care at all about what's going on in the world You've got to see this he made hundreds. He has the phone records hundreds of calls to Paulson Who of course we know is ex Goldman Sachs. And I'll just give you to finish this up, Dennis Kucinich. I'll give you his lead in question and we don't even have to listen to the answer because Kucinich basically tells you what happened right here in this question. Mr Geithner

42:13 The New York Fed agreed to Goldman Sachs' demands for billions to settle its counterparty claims with AIG, 100 cents on a dollar. But for more than a year before that, Goldman and AIG had been locked into a dispute over that money and Goldman believed it would lose up to 2.5 billion if AIG defaulted Did you know at the time that Goldman Sachs had concluded it would not receive 100 cents on a dollar from AIG in the event of default? So that's something I didn't realize. that they were in a basically in a court case over this money and of course Kucinich goes on to state that hey look you know these guys would have never gotten 100 cents on the dollar in a court case at best it would have cost them tens of millions of dollars in court to sue them over so what if costs the money therefore there was no reason not to give him less than 100 cents on the dollar

43:12 This whole thing stinks to high heaven. They should be throwing people in jail That's the disturbing part and at the end regardless of who it is except for a captor they all pretty much say well We really appreciate you coming here today, and thank you for your service and blah blah blah blah blah except for Micah I think that's his name he He really laid into him so yeah The whole thing is not just disturbing its fraud Geithner's there perjuring himself as far as I'm concerned, lying. Because it is very clear what he did! There was a backdoor bailout 100 cents on the dollar and we paid for it He didn't act in our interest And he was conflicted and didn't even write down on a piece of paper that he was conflicted It was well known They should be...I am telling you they should waterboard him Waterboard little Timmy Waterboard Timmy Alright

44:09 You won't get this, I mean you know it's...I wish they would make some time in mainstream media to actually analyze some of this stuff. It's not that hard it just takes a little while to go through the clip Just actually listen to what the guy is saying and you can see right. It's obvious he's lying He's just lying and nothing will happen No, nothing will happen Nothing will have except that you know now Paul Volcker is being kind of pushed to the foreground who I actually was I think was a pretty good guy And he was also head of the Federal Reserve during He was pretty green span yeah pre-green span right?

44:49 And you know, so now he's gonna take over or something is going to happen here. But the way they hustled Timmy Geithner in and out after two hours like oh he has a lunch date, he has got to leave now it was just crap I love that part sorry but he has gotta go to lunch Yeah gotta go to lunch we have no time So anyway, they also had Bernanke on the uh... on the uh... dais taking abuse from everybody. Same thing and they're gonna probably put the guy back in and he's just-he's as deep as it is. Who? Bernanke?! You think they could put Bernanke back in? Yeah! Well Bobo-Bama wants to keep him

45:32 I like Bernicke better. Yeah, let's just call him Bernicke. So yeah, Obama wants for some unknown reason... He is not even Obama's guy! My favorite thing is the Republicans love the guy at least most of them do and they accept not all of them of course because the tomorrow ones don't And still my favorite argument which we had on the show some weeks ago, which is the guy says well since you screwed everything up you know best how to fix it. Kind of an argument that's why we should put him back in because he's incompetent I thought that argument was most interesting Yeah this... It's just unbelievable that no one cares We're all too consumed by the iPad

46:18 That's really that's really what it's all about. Yep products This does tie into a very weird occurrence a typical case of two to the head Up there in Davo and Switzerland as Dr.. Marcus Reinhardt longtime Swiss police police commander who was in charge of security at the World Economic Forum, which I guess kicks off in a week or two right? It might but I know they're giving speeches now. There was just one the other day by the guy that Prime Minister Greece was moaning and groaning saying that they're trying to set him up to be a fall guy! Oh yeah oh well of course! I mean Greece has been the fall guy for a whole bunch of stuff that's going on in the European Union But so this is a long-term Swiss police commander

47:12 He literally, and I have the reports here that this is what it slays me when i read it. An apparent suicide he shot himself in the head twice! I kid you not! Just to make sure he was dead he shot himself twice in the head with a gun his left hand and uh... I do have information on what happened and I think this is quite telling So the World Economic Forum, this is where all the bankers basically get together and party. Oh boy I think i just lost John that doesn't happen very often we'll see if he calls back hopefully he will Wow John maybe you know maybe should be careful playing these sound effects oh come on John call me back Where is he? There he is Hold on

48:27 Don't you find it peculiar? Yeah, no. Wait a minute don't even say anything don't even... ...don't even say anything. You there? yeah go ahead Don't you find it peculiar that we get disconnected on this particular discussion topic Oh yeah oh yeah while you were gone I'm playing like the two heads sounds yeah very peculiar and- I mean we could be disconnected at any point in the show Yeah but has to happen on this very topic as I am about to tell everybody what's going on

49:04 So yeah, it's pretty peculiar. Okay you found out because I looked into this story about this guy getting shooting himself twice in the head which again that's almost like code now it seems to me Well yeah...I think they're sending messages to us! I think they're making a joke Hey let's fuck with those No Agenda guys Let's shoot them twice I don't think anybody listens to this show They'll go on for hours about it Let's do them twice Here one more Bruno hit him one more time man That's funny That's what they're doing. You know, there is that possibility and because I you know if you work with these guys a lot of them are jokers and they like to pull stuff like that Of course they do! Why do you think that their talking about ya think in the Senate? Dude this show is making a difference Well let's hope... You wait In The Senate within this year someone going say in the morning In The Morning I guarantee you someone gonna say it

50:02 Let me just give you my theory here. This comes from my sources, so all the bankers are going to be in one place at the same time and of course if you follow my theory which John I think you subscribe to some of it but probably not all that a lot of this financial trouble that we're in is done on purpose there's a purposeful takedown of the economy for a whole bunch of reasons mainly for people to enrich themselves They're getting all the money now, and then when everything collapses they're gonna buy up your shit. They're gonna buy your land Your farm your house your plane your car Everything that you own they're gonna own with the money they stole in the first place which is your money through bailouts Just look at all the bonuses that are being handed out

50:53 So they come together and this is basically what you would call John the drinking club where they all are going to discuss how we're gonna pull the final levers which may involve Greece and a number of other countries. This guy has to do security, obviously there's a lot of security he got put in place for all these bankers so he apparently, Marcus Reinhart You gotta spell it with DT, otherwise you get some bodybuilder on Google which is kind of weird. Right! I was looking for this guy he said but i got the body builder Yeah, I got the body builder the first time too

51:30 So he was setting up all new kinds of security and he had these hypersensitive listening devices so you can actually hear a gun being cocked, it's highly tuned stuff. And he apparently overheard something about the real plan for the final collapse of the global banking system and they found out about it You know, it's like if... It's a good storyline for a good Hollywood movie. I think there was that movie The International or whatever it is about the corrupt bankers? I mean let's face it there is a corrupt aspect to what's going on. Ya think?!

52:18 And I don't see this guy committing suicide. No, of course not! Something is wrong with this picture He's been a commander of the Swiss police for years The guy was 61 you know it was like if your upset how are you at like 61 all of sudden oh now i'm gonna kill myself You just don't do that when you get to that age John So ByteLaw says there something they could do to get away with and send a message to his boss in other words everybody gets the word that look Stop doing this. Well, yeah stop let's stop the and of course their code word is to two to the head committed suicide But he shook himself in the head twice

52:58 That is obvious code. And of course that's it, right? It was like out of respect for the family no further details will be released Okay and they're probably giving them a pack of money Did you find anything else on this particular topic No I still...that was kind of frustrated by it I didn't get to...I don't have couple your sources and so I was just basically left out of the...left out of the...I gave up So let's go to some real news. Oh, oh gee it's about time There's a couple of things I got here But this isn't actually real news but I guess it kind of qualifies as real Actually, I get a couple different things but I was watching looking for some some messages in the law and order show especially the new ones that are produced by USA Network which is the worst they

53:54 They took the Law and Order Criminal Intent show, and they gave it to these guys who can't really do a very good job. So you know how you always talk about if you just listen instead of watch it how bad the acting is? Yes! If your not watching your only listening to the dialogue that's when you really can hear how atrocious it is I got this clip and this is including Jeff Goldblum who's a Hollywood actor that should be able to do well But no. So this is just a little clip from the show, recent episode which is called Bad Acting. Just try to listen to this with the straight face it's not very long but the whole thing is ludicrous.

52:58 That is obvious code. And of course that's it, right? It was like out of respect for the family no further details will be released Okay and they're probably giving them a pack of money Did you find anything else on this particular topic No I still...that was kind of frustrated by it I didn't get to...I don't have couple your sources and so I was just basically left out of the...left out of the...I gave up So let's go to some real news. Oh, oh gee it's about time There's a couple of things I got here But this isn't actually real news but I guess it kind of qualifies as real Actually, I get a couple different things but I was watching looking for some some messages in the law and order show especially the new ones that are produced by USA Network which is the worst they

53:54 They took the Law and Order Criminal Intent show, and they gave it to these guys who can't really do a very good job. So you know how you always talk about if you just listen instead of watch it how bad the acting is? Yes! If your not watching your only listening to the dialogue that's when you really can hear how atrocious it is I got this clip and this is including Jeff Goldblum who's a Hollywood actor that should be able to do well But no. So this is just a little clip from the show, recent episode which is called Bad Acting. Just try to listen to this with the straight face it's not very long but the whole thing is ludicrous.

54:36 A convincer? I have no idea what you're talking about. Ladies? Lane, what are you doing here? I'm sorry Archie...I had an affair with Ron Hemmings. I just wasn't getting the emotional support that i needed from you You know that's exactly how my divorce went! That's exactly how I said it! I just wasn't getting the emotional support from you. Yes, I'm sorry I was having an affair Dr. Ernst made me realize that I owed it to myself to actualize my feelings And from his sessions with Ron Hemmings, he knew that Hemmings liked your wife Did you know that Dr. Ernst pimped her out to get Hemming's investment? Of course not! I'm shocked

55:26 He sent her back again after things went bust. Oh my god, this is like acting class 101 in high school I love the guy who says oh i'm shocked. Oh my god This is uh we got like I can take another 20 seconds that's about the whole clip To calm Hemmings down and to convince us The only thing he was upset about was their love affair She wasn't sure it had worked I told you they didn't believe me. And you didn't want him talking about your involvement in Beulah's securities because that might lead us to start asking some questions.

56:09 John, don't do this to me. Come on, you might as well get the answer- there is actually a punchline at the end. Okay. You made sure to keep quiet with...this This is insane! This is uh... Okay that's it. This is insane? THIS IS INSANE! Oh I am shocked! Well you tried to kill him yes? Yes no I did not Hey John! He was so robotic In the morning too you In the morning to you too Adam. Yes, good John! Hey I'm just not getting the emotional support I need from you in our relationship John in the morning yes I am shocked too

56:52 Now, okay now I got some... this is closer to real news. You might as well just play this it's the Super Bowl clip This is a big controversy It's not quite taken off like everybody hoped it would but they tried to make it take off Apparently some family consortium of a bunch of family kind of right-wing family church going types that are pro life you have gotten cbs to take an ad for the super bowl i don't know why they can't afford to take this out what's the point of it would be but if you can't football related because it's a story about How Tim Tebow, who is this great quarterback, Heisman Trophy winner in Florida was going to be... apparently his mother was told to get an abortion because he's having complications and she said no I'm not going to. And now Tim Tebow arrives as this great football player

57:45 So, uh... Oh so now- Okay. Now I understand what you're saying. He could have been an aborted fetus but because he wasn't aborted he is this fantastic Heisman trophy winning football player? Yeah! That's the underline that's the subtext So meanwhile, a bunch of different people come up. This is presented on Fox and this is part of... And I don't care one way or the other if you run this ad, I'm sure it'll be fine but Fox trying to make into an issue because there's apparently a few left-wing groups that are like, well I think this shouldn't be on here because these people are bad

58:22 I don't, so they do the old trick where let's find somebody well let's find somebody who represents the other side who doesn't want to see this ad and lets see who can we find oh here is a stuttering black woman who can barely walk and chew gum at the same time. Let's put her on TV and she can represent that side of the argument Let's focus on the family anti-woman. The Women's Media Center calls them homophobic and anti equality here is what the executive director of Choice USA told us. uh... to skew hate and and and to be again very divisive and i have no doubt that will come through, I don't believe it has a place. Again this un-american hate doesn't have a place in this all american pastime they say CBS should know better trace there's a lot of controversy over the ad that no one is really seeing right? what do we know about

59:22 This is the joke of it, no one's seen this ad. They don't know what they're talking about and they're doing a whole stories on it! Nobody knows what they are talking about nobody has seen any ads and then you have this woman who is representing god knows what organization but she looks like she has as much interest in football or the Superbowl as nobody And it's like so what and so now she's well, it's an all-american pastime. We can't have you know this kind of agenda on the show I'm thinking what a phony baloney story This is that what does this how does this even pass for news? It's CBS dude. No, it's Fox Oh, okay Well, it's the same thing run by the same people. Yeah Makes no difference interesting

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1:04:35 But it's very difficult, particularly when we've taken an oath. A very solemn oath. Yeah an Oath of Poverty! Which is the direction were headed right now. I have a couple of shoutouts i gotta do real quick because sometimes you get a little confused Jeffrey Lanches listens to us every single time we have a show on this massive commute in Gitmo Nation lowlands. He's having a rough time right now but I know he's gearing up to be a future knight and apparently Claudia

1:05:12 Sent us a note that she sent us 50 bucks for to have her husband's name mentioned for his 40th birthday Kendall George from Norman, Oklahoma But we mentioned Claudia last week. Yeah No kidding and whenever we've got a female on the donation list it gets highlighted but it was actually For a happy birthday wish for a Kendall George so no belated. Yeah belated So he made that mistake a few times Yes well you have Well, so I anyway want to reiterate our Michael Gogo Spangenberg Enterprises, Jordi Ramirez and Tanya Wayman are new night. And then we have some of some we didn't actually have a lot of donations this week but we did have a few 50 in the $50 arena which and i'll just name them off uh this is between uh we have DUI help Barry Wilson and OKC defensive tactics who are on a night program but I thought I'd mention them again

1:06:06 Mark Iacono in New York City, Brian Curry of Quesnel, British Columbia. Guy Brown of North Sydney, South Wales and he wanted to donate ever since the squirrel episode Which I thought was the lowest of all lows of our series. And you thought it was the best? You thought it was the best and, of course, it got my wife into trouble! Yeah with me... Well there's also the squirrel that ran out of the car. We also have a donation from the beloved internet personality Rube in Guilford Oh, in Surrey Eric Williams

1:06:52 a and then we got $55 from Anna Kuzmina, K-U-Z-M-I-N-A from Moscow. She's the one who got us to put up the know the Dvorak channel dvorak.com slash NA because she says that in Russia you can't get dvorak.org because I'm censored. Anyway, that's it. That's it? Yeah! It's real weird because we got some good executive producers but we got like nobody in between just a bunch of 50 buck donations

1:07:40 I mean, hopefully we can do better. We got to you know the month's ending so people are going to be getting their checks. So go to noagendashow.com, dvorak.org slash NA and channeldvorak.com slash na for you who can't get to the normal. You know i don't want to put our situation on any equality with what's happened to the poor people of Port-au-Prince in Haiti But when you see how people respond to that and how much money is being raised. Gitmo Nation Lowlands, the Netherlands raised a hundred million euros. A hundred million euros? That's like 140 million dollars! Jennifer Aniston

1:08:27 And we've kind of been tracking this who are the celebrities who are really cool. She donated $500,000 to Doctors Without Borders I'm all for that You do not want to be donating to this This scam set up by former presidents Bush and Clinton if you want know more about that listen to no agenda 168 I thought it would be helpful to play the clip of when Bush and Clinton were on Meet The Press. And so, you know as we deconstructed last week the money goes into their fund but there's really no fund so it goes into the Clinton Foundation and some foundation in Texas that Bush is a part of and both these foundations have collectively almost $1 billion dollars in cash

1:09:21 and stock some bonds of course because they're making money off of trading it. If you miss this, listen to how these guys are talking about it You can just tell that they are bandits President Bush what did you learn in your government's response to the tsunami? To the disaster response to Katrina What lessons did you learn that this administration should bear in mind First of all takes time to get supplies in place But that shouldn't deter him. In other words, there's an expectation amongst people that things are going to happen quickly and sometimes it's hard to make things happen quick. So he is now actually polishing up his own image by saying oh it takes time you know whereas we know they just did nothing. Good work Bernie! Yeah nothing at all and while he's on the Katrina topic there's now

1:10:13 A local recommendation in Louisiana, New Orleans. The media is not allowed to call it the Katrina disaster because it was not Katrina that flooded everything It was the levees breaking. It was a federal mistake and the court approved this mandate on the media What? Oh, you didn't hear about this? No. Oh my gosh. You're giving me a mandate on the media! Yes well I mandate as in uh recommend you know like a strong recommendation So the city council, they got together... So to be politically correct you mean? Yes because it's not- They call it Katrina shorthand. You're not allowed to use Katrina shorthand saying the Katrina disaster Because a day after Katrina was already gone there was no flooding It wasn't until the levees broke which these poor people have been complaining about for years saying this needs to be fixed and that is the responsibility of the Army Corps of Engineers To make sure those levees are strong enough

1:11:16 But it doesn't matter anymore, no one gives a crap about Katrina. And here's Bush trying to polish up his lameness of getting FEMA into gear whether it was his fault or not he is responsible at that point for FEMA and it just didn't happen so he's like oh take some time you get help on the ground yeah you gotta get 20 thousand Marines in first Secondly there is a great reservoir goodwill that wants to help and that's why he asked us to help, and we're glad to do it. I need to put a pitch in for the clintonbushhateyfund.org One of my concerns around any crisis is that shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill... They're sitting right there! The shysters are in front of my very nose!!

1:12:04 One of my concerns is that shysters show up. Yeah, like the guy pitching ClintonBushForHaiti.org which does not exist a non-existent fund it's a website and the money goes straight into your own foundation the Clinton Foundation and this Texas 600 million dollar fund foundation It doesn't even exist! And then you're gonna decide who to give it too? Where's the accounting?! Yeah, really. It's like the same... I know where it is! It's sitting in the same folder of accounting for The Fed. We got an analysis from one of our producers who works in a non-profit

1:12:51 I didn't want to be mentioned my name. For the past two and a half years, I've worked as an accountant for a non-profit based in Los Angeles After hearing you mention the annual Clinton payroll and travel budget, I had to do a double take! I reconcile our payroll and expense reports every month If I extrapolate using my annual numbers to the Clinton payroll, their foundation would need to have approximately 280 employees. Assuming similar salaries to ours. Now look... 280 employees for a non-profit is huge! Most nonprofits that I deal with have less than 30 employees and working for a nonprofit I can tell you salaries are tight and usually compare low to similar jobs if we can believe that the Clintons are really out to do good which i'm sure they are then your report is great news

1:13:36 We should encourage more former heads of state to start non-profits. 280 new jobs! Imagine that! Maybe this is how the US will save and or create those jobs we have been hearing about A new nation truly devoted to service $30 million in payroll, huh? He says you can take that to the bank You can take that to the bank It's it's unbelievable. We want to hear I just love that clip of where Bush is saying they give us money and look out for shysters One of my concerns around any crisis is that? Shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill in generosity Do you see any shysters here John? I think bush could that be it

1:14:18 Oh my goodness. So I need that clip? Yeah, it's a good clip and then so we spoke to Brooks who was actually on the Royal Caribbean cruise ship Well, before we go to Brooks let's make sure that we reiterate that we do need some contributions so go to Dvorak.org slash NAORG noagendashow dot com Yeah and don't worry We're admitted shysters! We're gonna spend it on bills hookers and blow okay? We're right up front about it yeah well probably mostly on bills unfortunately We haven't got enough money to do it with the hookers in below. Oh, before I forget Britney Spears is also contributing She is donating her... she can't even find Haiti on a map! She's donating the silver Versace gown she wore for her high-profile comeback appearance at the 2008 MTV Video Music Awards She can't fit in it. She's donating it to be auctioned off so she's helping for Haiti

1:15:19 Yeah, I'm gonna give all my son to the assignment shop and send the profits to Haiti. You know why is it that you get a guy like the Bloomberg reporter who dies unexpectedly while he's trying to figure out where the two trillion dollars that the Federal Reserve stole went to? Effectively he gets 2 to the head and Britney Spears gets to live! This is a, this is a... you know, I gotta hear the shyster one more time. The crisis is that shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity Yeah exactly Shysters! Shysters! Shysters! I'm a real shyster

1:16:03 It's not funny. So anyway, this was kind of interesting so I found out that it was actually President Clinton who put together the deal between Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and the investors in Haiti to buy up this island Labadee which is a part of Haiti but apparently they own it And that's where this cruise ship docked. Now, here is what you didn't hear in the news... Okay and let me go back and reiterate Brooks is the producer or one of the producers of Cranky Geeks Yeah! ...and he went on a cruise that happened to be and I mean left just before the earthquake or just right at time of the earthquake and I remember when he was leaving well I'm gonna be gone for week

1:16:56 I guess i won't be stopping in Haiti like they you know that's on the agenda but he did stop there and he says that they're all reporting that was going on about them, you know going in there and just partying with most felicious. Now he said they did go out and party but this island Labadee is 250 miles north of Port-au-Prince The reporting made it sound like there was just over the fence. No, I was under the impression from the report that what I heard when I was listening to the news because we were thinking about this must be Brooks' boat. It sounded as if he dropped them off in northern part of the island where they just all started partying hardy and then there was maybe a barbed wire fence to keep the other, the ne'er-do-well's from coming in and getting their food.

1:17:45 So that wasn't the case at all and in fact they raised $250,000 cash on board But of course then they made the mistake of giving it to the Red Cross They were right. They raised over two hundred thousand dollars on the ship itself and According to Brooks they dropped off a bunch of food and supplies stuff that was shipped into the Port-au-Prince so they were actually a mercy shit In a way well, yeah, so that's good But, you know it just shows you what kind of reporting you get. And we of course copied that verbatim! Good on us

1:18:23 You know the thing, yeah I mean that's the reason people should be giving us some support here because we uh... We have a lot of friends that are you know first person at these things like the Haiti deal. That show that the media is doing really poor job of reporting anything and we think they're as good as anybody i've heard especially when you listen to these talk show guys, the Hannitys Everybody, everybody. All of them. Their deconstruction is done by low paid staffers and they miss a lot of stuff and it's very biased I mean Hannity to me is the most

1:19:04 in some ways the most entertaining and the most ridiculously biased guy on the air. And he did a survey on his show about Obama, the Obama thing... I gotta post a picture that I took off of the screen because it's just so funny because the Obama speech was just as Nick said when you talked to him, yeah it was pretty good speech! For Nick it was probably a pretty good speech if talk before. It was basically another Obama speech that was... Yeah, it was another great performance! Great performances in presidential history. They surveyed their listeners and it was like 2% thought it was really a good speech 3 percent thought it was just neutral and 85 percent thought it really was terrible

1:19:51 And I'm thinking, this is not even good. Why are you even putting this in? Get him off the air! Why were you... why are you even watching is my question?! Stop watching! I told ya he's the most entertaining of the group because he so buy- He's so knee jerk Under the heading Not Good For You In Gitmo Nation East United Kingdom Kids Are Now Starting To Drop Dead From This Stuff You Can Get Off The Internet Called Methadrone have you ever heard of this? No, I don't know anything about it. MEPHE DRONE Maybe you can get some of them in the chemical analysis methadrone better known as meow-meow and People who sell that it's legal to sell this people are selling off websites making about 25 thousand pounds a week

1:20:40 Cheap drug gives a similar high to that of ecstasy and amphetamine. So you know this shit's gonna be outlawed pretty quick because we need you kids on heroin, We need your kids on the good stuff! Uh so uh... Kids are dropping dead from this over there which is it's kind of like a I guess it's kind of like a date rape type drug where you kinda go, like GHB we kinda go lethargic. But i'm not quite sure why this is legal or what it is... It looks kinda like a packet of the silicone that you get when you buy new laptop? Maybe it IS that stuff! I don't know. Kids be snorting that stuff. Hey, let's just give this to the kids too if they think. But more interesting

1:21:23 is there seems to be a rogue manufacturer of Botox and the feds are very worried about it because if there is actually someone out there, and the prospect is that its factory in Chechnya churning out raw botulinum toxin. That means that someone could have enough dope of this stuff to go kill people with cause you know if you have the raw stuff one drop One grain of this stuff can take you out. So I think that what's next is they're going to outlaw Botox, they've already been trying to tax the thing and there's a fascinating story from The Washington Post which i'll put in the show notes at noagendershow.com if you want me to check it out If your'e a user of the Botox John you might look kind of good with some Botox It's too late for me No not at all! That's not true Have you investigated this? Who gave you that advice? That's not true I looked in the mirror and said uh oh...too late

1:22:23 So this stuff is 2-methylamino 1P tolipropan 11 also known as methyl methyl methyl cation. The trouble with chemistry is that there's about, I don't know at least three or four major naming conventions and then there's a whole bunch of spin offs so you have all these different words for it until you run into But it might be. Methylphedrone, this has something to do with aphedrine. Apparently it's quite good. It was sold as ecstasy and nobody noticed. It's called meow-meow

1:23:11 That was another thing that the kids should avoid. Yeah, all the kids don't have enough trouble here's a story that I thought I got a blog and discussion is one of the most more annoying things going on which is the Which is the mark? Which is the the watering down by reprehensible government officials to watering down of the sex offenders situation where you are now putting some guy who pees in the park on the same sex offender list as a 50 year old man who kidnaps a 6 year old and rapes and murders her. Same thing according to these people so here's what is going on now this is in Valparaiso which

1:23:53 Some, there's a bit... I don't know what state this is in. Don't have it doesn't say to Ben Franklin Middle School students who Valparaiso police said were caught using their cell phones to exchange nude pictures of each other. A practice called sexting are facing criminal charges! 13 year old girl and 12 year old boy were referred to juvenile probation on the charges of possession of child pornography and child exploitation I plead the fifth.

1:24:49 The point is, is that these are not these kids who are taking lewd pictures of themselves. And by the way when did pornography I thought it was thought that pornography actually entailed some insertion or something other than just a naked picture of yourself? Oh no and and of course the crazy thing is that body scanners are not pornography! If you're operating with one of these machines uh... sex offender law where of course you should yeah i think so too but if you don't take it to an extreme by any good and people make every kid who's sexting you know taking a year somebody big picture themselves into sex offenders i mean the whole thing is is disgusting to be honest about because what they've done is that they were so this old twelve-year-old girl or twelve-year-old boy in the search eul girl there going to be categorized as saying has a murder rape it

1:25:48 In the sex offenders deal where you have to be tracked for the rest of your life going from town to town and the guy who pees in a park, same thing. I'm not getting what... unless they actually wanted to water down really bad guys, and mix it up so much that everybody's on the list and so it doesn't make any difference anymore which is a possibility I suppose by your theory where you think everybody in high office is pedophile. Yeah! Uh...I mean that could be but its unbelievable trend nobody's gonna say anything about because all you know child porn is bad now im wondering what is the definition of child porn? Because this takes me back to the label of a bottle of Mouton Rothschild

1:26:32 that came out, I think it was the 73 vintage maybe or the...I think it was a 73 or something like that. There was and then Mouton Rothschild always has a little piece of art on the label and there were some...it was a painting drawing of some...I don't know, just kid, little young kid just like a naked picture but it wasn't even descriptive. It was just...It was just a very vague drawing you could look at people can look up Mouton Rothschild porn label and they probably find a picture of it on the net. Anyway, they banned it all! It's child porn and I'm thinking how is this child porn? Where's the porn part in A or where's the child? There's no child there's no porn but its child porn so like everything has been lumped into this thing and these poor kids for sexting which by the way 40% teenagers apparently do

1:27:29 It's just, I don't know. I find the whole thing reprehensible. about having sex, every other commercial has a sexual tint to it. So I believe in some ways meant as mind control measure to confuse your brain on the other hand yes i do believe that in high government circles there is a large portion of that population are pedophiles and certainly in some countries more than others

1:28:21 and that they like to distract attention from themselves, make themselves look like they're all against it which is very typical by the way for all sorts of criminals. Oh I'm completely against it! Like look at the Wall Street guys this is same thing they're all against stealing and... And shysters! Thank you there you go exactly this is the same mentality Oh, you know I hate shysters. Who's gonna say that? The biggest shyster himself! We have a saying in Holland, wat je zegt ben jezelf is what you say is what you are and these these sayings don't exist just for no reason and probably even more evil is they want to get the kids into juvenile homes so they can be abused by the very same people who are trying to make up these crazy ass laws

1:29:11 There's so much abuse going on in these systems. Child Protection Services, give me a break! If people want to look something up that is kind of interesting... Look up Boys Town Scandal Yeah This is the channel for the ITV documentary you have to see Yeah, and try to find the ITV documentary which was only... apparently it was banned. It was taken off the air and they destroyed all copies but there was one VHS tape floating around which is still available on Google uh..on their Google videos not the YouTube And um You should just watch it I mean its a...and it happens and its just all city corruption In fact it sounded to me as though the entire state of Nebraska Is completely corrupt

1:29:54 and it looked as though, which explains that crazy thing that happened. In fact is brought up in a Katie Couric interview with Rahm Emanuel which we actually have for today's show if you want to run it where she brings it up where Nebraska got a sweet deal on the healthcare bill for some unknown reason. Wow very interesting combination so let me just briefly about this documentary and I slipped into the show notes two shows ago put it again It's, I think it is called Conspiracy of Silence? No. Maybe it's pedophilia in the USA...it doesn't matter but it goes all the way up to the Bush Senior White House and of course some other people who were involved in this scandal because there was a scandal are dead! Suicided

1:30:42 But it did take place in Nebraska and it was in the highest echelons of politics, in this place called Boys Town USA originally set up by Father Flanagan I believe. But at the time heavy involvement from this guy called Lawrence King for short it was Larry Kings obviously not the old white dude There's a black guy. Yeah, and if you watch that... A black Republican, yes And it is very disturbing and exactly what it is these boys are being taken out of the Boys Town USA Being taken to high-end parties with politicians and people of influence In Washington DC they're being pulled out. They're flown in there abused and then sent back

1:31:27 And then of course brainwashed that nothing happened and really it's disgusting but it's a real television documentary and several senators who were involved in this bought the station off. I think they paid at the time $250,000 for not to air which seems like a minimal amount. I'm sure there was other pressure going on but I think it was independent producers who had to get paid off. So now indeed very interesting to see and I want to play this Rahman Manual interview The Nebraska got this huge payoff. This was around the Medicare payments, I believe? This interview is Katie Couric. This is an interesting interview for a couple of reasons. It took place before the

1:32:14 speech and it was about what Obama's gonna say but Couric, if she actually, if Couric was like this all the time she would really get a lot of attention because she was very mean. She was asking crazy questions that were often... Emanuel did two or three takes to triple blinks and then head head wiggles and whoa, all those kinds of things you do when you're being confronted by a crazy person. But I try to say well this is where maybe Kirk knows she's going to lose her job so now she's becoming really aggressive as an interviewer then I realize no, she just

1:32:50 irked by the fact that Obama, you know that they lost Massachusetts. She's like a real Democrat she's irked at they lost Massachusetts so she jumps all over Rahm Emanuel and gives him nothing but crap and but she does bring up this Nebraska thing about how they got a sweet deal in Nebraska why? I'm his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel i began by asking him what mistakes the president will acknowledge tonight He is not going to sit there and list a set of mistakes. in his view, what he will do is in a couple places in the speech talk take responsibility where he could have done things different or better. Like what? In the sense of communicating and explaining the challenges we had and what were the missions that he was setting out for the country to do or tackle in areas like health care Will you scale back and compromise some of your goals Or will you try to keep basically the same legislation in place I think the objectives will never change

1:33:48 Okay, so the decision now is he never had you to go forward about the notion of why would he? He's Rahm Emanuel. You don't want to get suicided not doing something is off The table the president says he wants to work with Republicans But that really hasn't happened so far So what makes you think it will now the president will continue to reach out to Republicans offer them the chance To work together I do think now that the Republicans clearly have 41 seats, with that ability comes accountability. They too will have responsibility for the direction this country takes. It's funny because you know Mickey was in Los Angeles and hanging out with all our Democratic actor friends

1:34:31 And this came up, she says because she walked in right as the State of the Union was about to start. She says well you know the Republicans they're making it hard they are not cooperating I said They don't need the Republicans They have enough votes to pass anything they want. Yeah, but you're the Republican and even Obama made mention of this in the State of Union. Oh well they've got a filibuster. That can be removed at any point You can just have a vote remove the filibuster rule But they don't wanna do that because they wanna use it themselves The whole 41 thing, now Republicans are responsible for everything is so bogus

1:35:11 I don't like the Republicans either. Let's play the resume and the choices we make As you know people were pretty disgusted by deals that were made up on Capitol Hill like the one given to Ben Nelson, to win his support If The White House was so involved was this done with your blessing? Look, We were involved in the legislation all the way through Were you involved in that? Not gonna go through all of it Why tell you Katie Couric You're just media! You have to do what I say biatch What I pay you for!

1:36:07 I suppose, Katie could say that i'm responsible for not having done more at the White House but I think that in- I think your analysis is spot on, John. This is the kind of question you'd ask at like the drinking club Hey dude where were you? Where were you Mr Big Man? Mr Nine and a Half Fingers? Where were you? Where were you when this was going down?! She gets meaner listen! In a period of time between her winning the primary and us getting a phone call to get involved We're immediately up there with whatever resources they asked for and more Would you say he dropped the ball I, Rahm Emanuel dropped the ball. Oh! That I, Rahm Emanuel dropped the ball? He was blinking a lot by the way after he did that. I, Rahm Emanuel, Rahm Emanuel dropped the ball?!

1:36:57 And then did he throw a shocker at her right there? No, back it up and then play for a question. But you have to imagine him blinking like a maniac. Of course! He's like... Are you seriously questioning me the center of Chicago hitman politics Rahm Emanuel as dropping the ball?! Between her winning the primary and us getting a phone call to get involved we were immediately up there with whatever resources they asked for and more Would you say he dropped the ball I'm Emanuel. The White House, the Democrats. Katie Couric? Katie Couric? Look you know i don't want to re-litigate this but there's no doubt in my mind we could have won that race Meanwhile I asked Emmanuel if his job is secure he said as long as the president wants me I'm here CBS News will of course bring him back tonight. Emmanuel wants to get out by the way

1:37:56 He wants, I'm sure he wants to get out. He wants to jump this ship big time. I wouldn't argue that because it's gotta be thankless and uh... I don't see what he is getting out of it It has gotta be a nightmarish job. He probably isn't getting much sleep and you have to be all doped up even to be effective Alright, I got two quick topics which are not to be overlooked John. This is from the BBC. I have not heard or seen any of this anywhere in the United States press. This is from The Financial Times General Stanley McChrystal...this is the whack job who sleeps three hours a night and looks like the Crypt Keeper He says there's been enough fighting in Afghanistan he says it's time for political solution

1:38:43 I'm like, wow this is the guy who was begging for you know... 40 thousand troops. Yeah he actually says the arrival of the extra 30 thousand troops pledged by President Obama and the additional 7000 troops promised by other NATO countries should deliver very demonstrable positive progress in 2010 He says You know, the Taliban are at this point part of the political fabric of the country. Now add to that and this really blew me away The UN Security Council Committee announced Tuesday it has lifted sanctions against five former Taliban officials and they've been trying to do... Russia has been blocking

1:39:32 this movement to basically lift these sanctions, they finally agreed. They said yeah you know what let's just lift all these sanctions and I think that they're trying to settle it John. I think they are actually trying to buy the Taliban off and settle this thing, and just work it all out. Hey look here's the way I would see it. Look you know this is senseless. It's like you know PBS even reported on this. The trucking supply companies who are funded by US tax dollars they pay off the Taliban to get a free ride not a free ride but a safe ride up to the troops so our money is going to the same guys we're fighting

1:40:18 Taliban by the way, they didn't bring down the World Trade Centers if that's what you believe. It was Al-Qaeda which is now admitted many times over as a fake name it's a brand invented by the CIA so this thing is just big quagmire and at the end of day its all about the pipeline and drugs like look why don't we just split the money with you guys Let's take it easy. We'll you know once in a while we will give a couple guys to the head to make it look like the war is still going on, let those crazy Blackwater guys do it meanwhile blow up some shit in Pakistan and then lets just split the dough and get the drugs rolling and the pipeline moving they are going for complete settlement The war is effectively over Karzai came out with a comment the other day

1:41:07 He was kind of maybe indicating something similar to that but insisted that Afghanistan is gonna need the help They're gonna need help For the next 15 years. It's very specific which I thought was peculiar. I think I have that clip actually Let me see what I have here for cars. I this is him talking on the BBC last week I was interested in reconciliation and in bringing the Taliban back to their own country many, many years ago. The difference this time is that now we have the backing of our partners of the United States... Oh it's our partners! Our partners! ...for other allies in Europe. Allies?

1:41:55 and of the countries in the region there is broader better understanding on the need for reconciliation and on relations with Pakistan where we have better understanding of our situations, where they have suffered as well. Most important of all, now we have a concrete plan of action. A resourced one that will provide opportunities for those Taliban who return. Oh! I know what it is! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs The one thing that had to have occurred, if you think about the history of the Taliban in this area and their crazy governance is that they were the ones who for some reason or other

1:42:45 burning up the poppy fields and making me know saying no we're not gonna be doing any more that business they were getting rid of it exactly was almost a family had to now agreed to the battle had to be between pro-poppy growing in not and not probably going and then i'll abandon have you ever have agreed for some reason or other okay will be pretty weird world we will be part of this business that were running in in afghanistan growing poppies and making heroin to be shipped to the idiots in Europe, they must have been convinced that well the Europeans are so corrupt and the only way that you know...the new caliphate is ever gonna reform is if you let the Europeans kill themselves with this stuff. What difference does it make to you? You should be encouraging not tearing down the poppy fields maybe there's some

1:43:33 you know, debate that went on for the last couple of years and the Taliban maybe have seen the light and said hey yeah okay well you can grow the poppies as long we get a piece in action. And it will try to settle down into some manageable situation That's only I could think happened Well, I'm going to get more the contention is the poppy field. Yeah of course well in the end and the oil pipeline obviously I think they don't care about the pipeline I mean they were there probably getting royalties for that anyway They want people to have jobs build them poppy so uh... Poppy jobs! I do suspect that over the next few years, because of the poppy thing is let separately occasional photo op where somebody in the army says look we found another poppy field unbelievable. We're burning it watch take a picture were burning it

1:44:22 But actually they're burning corn in the field next to it. No, no, probably burning it after it's been harvested because people don't even know what a poppy field looks like! Yeah of course not. Or could be a cornfield you're right but anyway the point is that they are going now... It seems to me if this is what our theory which is that the whole thing about opium If our theory is correct then that means the price of heroin will drop drastically over the next two or three years. And we need to do that because... The commodity investor now you know. Exactly, yeah and we need to do that because meow-meow is cutting into the market! We need to get rid of that shit, get rid of the coke, get rid of the meow-meow, get rid of the E and get everyone on heroin it's good for ya

1:45:04 I was the heroin epidemic in the 70s which is an era, i think there was a lot of activity going on. In fact it was number movies made about Afghanistan being the Paris of that part of the world and they had hippies were moving to Afghanistan It's crazy dude! and i was like seventy two something like that and that's when they were you know what people were getting strung out on heroin it was a uh... does the song by stevie dan casing to drag in which is a reference to smoking it and uh... man sounds right all right then i've got one more which is very worrisome as actually you tube clip of canadian news broadcast to go along with this which uh... i bumped into and i did some research in found a couple of the has a very good sort very well sourced article with that would links at this about the upcoming uh... olympics in that canada

1:46:03 I believe it's in Vancouver, right? The Winter Olympics. Yeah, Vancouver. So there is a... a high likelihood according to sources that there could be a false flag terror attack on the Olympics and you have to understand up front that deal has already been struck if something happens out there US troops move into Canada. And is actually I got buying this one, well i got the news reports all play that in a second so first of all what's happened is six thousand tons ammonium nitrate has gone missing from a storage facility in the Vancouver area. Wow, 6,000 tons? Yes and what is ammonium nitrate... That would blow up Vancouver! Thank you And this is from a company that was recently bought for 22 billion dollars so the company that lost six thousand tons of ammonium nitrate was purchased for twenty two billion dollars by

1:47:01 Goldman Sachs, AIG the Carlyle Group amongst others. The company was called Kinder Morgan either kinder or kinder. Kinder would be kind of funnier. Kindermorgan is kinder yeah I know but it sounds better they did not report these two tons missing for over two months due to a clerical error hey John you seen that 6,000 tons of ammonium nitrate anywhere I missed it! I think it's in my backyard. So listen to the news reports from Canada and you will get a little better view

1:47:42 As to what is possible that could happen and why this would happen, and of course that would be to bring in the North American Union with the troops. of Canada's major airports. The transportation minister is in fact holding a news conference this afternoon to outline the new security measures... Breaking news from Ottawa, for weeks we've been hearing that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was considering asking the Governor General to suspend Parliament now he has got his wish. Think about this for a moment, the American army crossing the border into Canada

1:48:22 That is part of the plan if there's a major emergency during the Olympics. Just three weeks before the Olympic Games, two tons of explosive material missing from a Surrey storage facility still isn't accounted for. CBN News broke the story of missing ammonium nitrate earlier this month and tonight we have learned how the Maudies are stepping up their search for it." That's the part I miss by the way that the government has been suspended conveniently during all of this So what is this music in the background? Where'd you get this clip? This isn't one of those YouTube things where they try to produce it. Hold on, there's more... I don't like the music either

1:49:04 These guys are trying to dramatize things with music. Give me a break! Hey, you guys who do that stuff... Stop it! The apparatus of Olympic security is becoming apparent along with the fencing around venues are the security cameras hundreds of them Kirk Williams is live outside GM Place where the cameras were put in today And Gloria, if you live around here or plan on attending an event at GM or BC Place chances are that you will be on camera. The question is what to do with them after the games? The words are alarming! Last night we reported on a US State Department travel advisory for people coming her during the 2010 Winter Olympics. U.S officials are telling visitors that our games could be a prime target for Al Qaeda terrorists.

1:49:51 So all we need now is an exercise, we need a drill. We just be on the lookout for someone doing an anti-terrorist drill around the Olympics and then you know what's gonna happen? Yeah there seems to be that somewhat maybe like a code or something just to tell it warn people so in other words the drill takes place do yourself a favor don't do something that was obviously related or going to be related could be I mean your list of coincidences You are fast. Coincidence? I think not! Uh, i think it's valid Thank you And on that note... On that bloody note Well before you... Bro, I got one more thing but it'd be depressing More depressing Oh good let's hit it There is a new meme now this isn't long clip but y'all gonna play to a point which is maybe a minute in But uh there's a new meme people have keep an eye out for I started with first heard of some right wing talkers and then ran into this PBS thing

1:50:50 And that is, there's going to be some sort of an attack within the next four years using a weapon of mass destruction. The meme very slowly evolves into the weapon of mass destruction will probably be a bio-weapon. Yeah! Of botulism! Could be... That's a good point. That's a nice catch But there's going to be an attack of some sort and we are ill prepared to deal with it, which is another one. So it's a combination product here that were dealing with in terms of a meme but this was an interview that took place with a couple guys, X-Men or whatever they did

1:51:27 that do this report every so often about our readiness and it turns out that we are reading this is close to nil. And where's, where's this from? This report? This was on your news hour sponsored by Chevron Oh, and Toyota and uh... everybody. Monsanto here we go Let's start with your assessment actually 14 months ago. Is there any doubt in your mind, and I'll begin with you Senator Graham but either of you that the threat remains as you assessed it then? That within the next four years it is likely or more likely than not that some terrorists somewhere in the world will

1:52:06 use a weapon of mass destruction. If anything, the odds that we gave a year ago which was more likely than not have probably gone up in the past 14 months. That is it is higher than just a straight slightly more than 50-50 that some place on earth a terrorist group would use a weapon of mass destruction between now and the end of 2013 and the reason for that is accessibility particularly biological materials has increased of the sophistication about kate as we saw on christmas day has become a anything but i think that's crotch sophistication and to get this indication greater and more diffused uh... we believe that uh... the risk is real and growing and this was a unanimous fine yeah and will reduce that will reach a probability

1:52:59 by around 2013. Of course we don't have intel telling us the attack is going to occur in 2013, but if you look at the trend lines it's a short-term risk that was our point this is not the next generation that has to worry about this And when you say trendlines briefly what do you mean? Well although we are doing things we're making progress and particular areas as a government and with allies they are active also and its like were running but their running faster All right, so let's take one of the F that I think made everyone the most nervous which was That a system still hadn't been developed to respond quickly to a buyer bioterror attack Are you talking about what? You know who's who uh Who's really heavily the is Israel is does drills all the time for bio terror attacks With it with a whole population. Everyone knows like the duck and cover stuff Everybody knows what's what to do they did one just two weeks ago

1:53:54 Yeah, we don't do that. No. Preventing mass casualties? What do you mean by that? Nah, no, we take pictures of ya naked! Oh first...we-we mean deterrence uh the reality is that if a terrorist gains access to a biological weapon they're gonna ask themselves where can we use this weapon to the greatest effect So, the degree to which you are prepared to respond becomes a significant amount of your deterrence that it will not be used against you. But if you are attacked the adequacy of your response capabilities can reduce the number of casualties into thousands and therefore make it something less than a mass destructive event

1:54:35 So Senator Talent, what is missing in that area? What hasn't been done? Unfortunately about everything is missing. I mean we've not stockpiled the countermeasures We didn't even have enough vaccines for H1N1 with six months notice We don't have a plan systems for distributing the... Oh okay so we have to stock up on on anti-bio crap? I guess apparently you have to stock up on everything and, you know, vaccines for anthrax which are incredibly dangerous and all these other things. I have no idea! All i know is that I'm seeing the meme...I'm not sure what the end game is. It probably is just spend a bunch of money

1:55:18 I have no idea. If there's some phony-bloney false flag event in Vancouver, that will just expediate these things In other words what we're hearing here is a prelude to kind of let's panic the American public again and get them to cough up a bunch of money and then be leery of everything And put up with the scanners you're going to have at the airport so these guys can get their rocks off Not that that's what they are doing But come on Don't know Just the whole thing. I mean, I just keep seeing these demean my keep hearing it And so I'm thinking something's up and it's gonna resolve itself probably within the next month or two and we'll discuss It in great detail Everything else you do on this show and We've done it from the h1n1 and even before where were so far ahead of the game that

1:56:07 The financial crisis, I called the stock market exactly by the way as to what the low would be. H1N1 we've called all of this stuff tight and it gets to the point where everyone's like oh that was a scam they'd forgotten that we were the ones telling you it was a scam! So this is a new one. This is the new scam coming up It's just cropping up in too many of the places you know it's like we were talking about how that The intelligence agencies will have these things planted so they can get the word out These this meme is cropping up and there all the right places Yeah, it just keeps cropping up here and there and here And there are all the places that are gonna get them You know with the word out and some

1:56:48 netted that stage two is coming up and i don't know what that's going to be it could be this event who reviewed the vancouver thing could be a little bit hearing just in geo's would be that would be good And so therefore people want to help Weister show up and take it. My concerns around any crisis is that shysters show up and take advantage of people. That's gotta be the title of the show, Shysters Show Up! Is that with a Y? S-H-Y? S-H-Y-S-T-E-R-F yeah. Shysters... So of course Just talking in this way that is actually terror. This is actually what terror is all about, about frightening people and you know what? I just got to say it again You have all the tools to be happy and fight this within yourself Okay? You can be a happy person! Just look at John and I We're unhappy! We are so incredibly happy And we...and you know what? We are proud to serve you and keep an eye out for the shysters that show up

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