Episode 167 · Thursday, 21 January 2010

Flying Upside Down

A suspicious surge of private jets at Port-au-Prince airport and allegations of man-made earthquakes collide with Ron Paul’s warnings of a CIA-led coup against the American government.

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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez accused the United States Navy of triggering the devastating Haiti earthquake using a tectonic weapon, a claim that coincides with reports of a Southcom disaster relief drill occurring just one day prior to the event. Analysis of flight data from Port-au-Prince airport reveals a suspicious influx of private executive jets and petroleum industry aircraft from companies like Mardon Inc, which appeared to take priority over heavy cargo planes carrying international aid. These anomalies suggest a strategic interest in Haitian oil reserves rather than a purely humanitarian mission.

In the United States, Congressman Ron Paul alleged during a Campaign for Liberty event that the CIA has effectively staged a coup against the military, operating as a self-funded entity through the Federal Reserve and the global drug trade. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court's Citizens United v. FEC ruling has cleared the way for unlimited corporate spending in elections, a move critics argue will allow entities like Monsanto to dominate political discourse. In the pharmaceutical sector, a new public service campaign regarding secondhand smoke is identified as a potential marketing meme designed to drive sales for Pfizer's drug Chantix, despite reports of psychotic breaks and suicidal ideation linked to the medication.

The cultural landscape remains equally fraught as Royal Caribbean's Independence of the Seas continued luxury stops at a private Haitian beach while armed guards patrolled the perimeter near earthquake ruins. The Hope for Haiti Now telethon, featuring Bruce Springsteen and Wyclef Jean, is viewed as an ego-driven exercise that fails to address long-term systemic issues or domestic unemployment. In a lighter but equally absurd moment, the Swedish Necrophilia Association exposed the lack of donor due diligence by successfully launching a Facebook fundraising hoax that attracted 200,000 members before being revealed as a prank.


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CHAPTER 01 / 26 Discussion

Val Communications, Executive Producer Donation from Canada

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 167 of No Agenda from San Francisco on January 21, 2010. They acknowledge a $222.22 donation from Val Communications, a company based in Toronto, Canada. The donor requested the credit be read in a Russian accent, leading to a discussion about the company's new status as an executive producer.

val communications· toronto· executive producer· donation· russian accent

00:01 What a great show I feel Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's January 21st, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 167. This is no agenda. Soaking wet in the western quadrant of Gitmo Nation and coming to you live from the minimum security containment cell crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in San Francisco in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And it's raining here in Northern Silicon Valley again. In fact, it's really crappy out. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! In the morning to you, John. In the morning to you. In the morning to everybody in the chat room, on the stream as we do it live. Every Thursday and Sunday morning, early service, 9 o'clock, Gitmo Nation West Time, Pacific Standard Time. Yes, exactly. So before we do anything, why don't we start right off with the credit roll.

01:02 We have a executive producer who happens to be, he says to also read this in a Russian accent. But I can't, let me do my best Russian. You can try, sure. On the last show you said that there were no donations from Russia. I am here to fix that. Maybe I should stop you. You're hurting yourself. That's not working? That's really not. No, you gotta think more like Boris. Boris, on the last show you thought there were no donations. Even though I'm sending this from Canada, I'm a Russian citizen, so there. Oh well, that doesn't count. You can't say now that you don't have donations from Russia. This came from Val Communications. Okay, is that the whole producer?

01:44 Val Communications, V-A-L Communications, that is the only, he gave me no name. A website or a type of... No, it's a company in Toronto. Oh, okay. Val Communications, alright. And he gave us $222, 222. Ah, nice. And so he's the executive producer. And no associate executive producers? No, that's it. One guy. So of course... Val Communications, thank you so much. I guess you can be listed as a production company. If you want to change it to his name he can tell us who he is. No, it's a company. It's Val Communications. Yeah, companies do that. Val Communications can now list themselves with the Better Business Bureau as a producer, as a production company, being the executive producing entity behind No Agenda episode 167.

CHAPTER 02 / 26 Discussion

Australian Broadcasting Company, Maynard's Subliminal Radio Propaganda

The hosts discuss PR associates and the use of stickers for guerrilla marketing in Boston and New York. They play clips from Maynard, a broadcaster at the Australian Broadcasting Company, who successfully inserted show catchphrases like "in the morning" and "two to the head" into a mainstream segment about horticulture. This is highlighted as an effective example of subliminal propaganda.

maynard· australian broadcasting company· radio· propaganda· stickers

02:37 And that could actually get you more clients. You could put it on your website under About Us. Yeah, absolutely. I would do it. Hell yeah. It's like they do it. Okay, so we don't have an associate executive producer Artwork is to be determined. Thank you all very much by the way for stepping up after our call out for artwork We've got a couple of artists now, and we're now we have about seven. Yeah, we're also putting the stuff in the credits at the top of the list because that was definitely faux pas on our part and today we have a PR executive John oh no yes

03:21 I must say though it is the same PR executive who already had credits with commendations. Oh really? So this guy's angling to... Maynard who I think still has a job with the Australian Broadcasting Company. We were wondering. It may not last long. Maybe he's phoning these up, you know. A couple of people tried, you know, a couple people tried to get on some radio shows and got cut off after like three seconds of the first sentence because you know you gotta like you gotta play this you gotta give it like fishing yeah exactly you gotta draw him in a little bit. You gotta work him. Yeah you can't just like say in the morning no judges show that doesn't work they'll dump you out. And they also have a kill switch that's usually got a seven second delay. Yeah exactly so when to count to seven and see how long is you've got to slip it in. Yeah that's the whole point is you've got to slip these things in very quietly so that

04:18 Really, it's subliminal. We don't want the Baba Booey type thing because that's not good enough. We want our PR executives to really sneak it in so that it sets into the subconscious of the listener. And then they'll just start noticing this company, all of a sudden you'll see billboards, you know, in the morning, no agenda show, no agenda and people will catch on to it. It's a campaign, it's not, we're not looking for a quick hit here. Well, another thing we should think about for anyone out there who's creative, You know, you can buy adhesive paper for your printer. And you can print on noagendashow.com or listen to No Agenda or put pictures of one of us from the artwork. There's lots of it. In fact, there's an archive of artwork. And then you can make little stickers. And then when you drive up to the toll booth in Boston, when you go into the tunnel,

05:20 There's usually a line you can kind of inch over to the far left, you get where the barrier is that you can plow into if you're drunk at night. And you can stick. You're reliably informed. And you can get close enough to it, you can reach out with your arm and put a sticker on there and you'll see it like the San Francisco Bay Bridge here. I asked tons of it. There's stickers all over the place. Mostly for rock bands, like most of them are out of business. So making a little sticker. Stamp it, putting it someplace, especially in the Boston tunnel. Or New York has got some too. Let me just correct you, little sticker, I don't think that's a good idea. I think, you know, make it a little bigger. You don't want it to be so big that they track us down like dogs and shoot us. I mean, the sticker should be about three inches by three inches, I think, about the most. Or make it just something that's easily readable.

06:13 And you stick it on there. And by the way, you also stick these stickers on newspaper racks, metal poles around town and just everywhere. Strip poles. Anywhere. Stripper poles. And they would say you can get a grip on them. And you just make these stickers and stick them around. Now, if you take a picture of the sticker after you've posted it and send it in to us, we will give you an associate PR. PR. All right. PR associate. Because if you do something on the air, that's really where you get the full executive. Well, no, we've always always been PR associate. We haven't really. So it's associate. Yeah.

06:52 Yeah, I mean it's because they're not there's no so we don't have a pure executive. Well, I don't know main main earned as well as a Two or three times boom will give him the honorary executive title So in the in the show notes at no agenda show calm you'll be able to find the actual web page for the Australian Broadcasting company that this show is from now Maynard I think it's kind of an all-rounder because he was doing a morning show in the morning and And he was interviewing some woman about horticulture and in particular about roses. And so he spliced the two bits together for me. I'll play the first bit, which is the beginning of the interview, and then further in the interview he slips another nice little ditty in. So here's the first bit.

07:39 As broadcast on Australian national radio. I'm surrounded by beautiful plants here in the nursery at Georgetown with Judy Sharp in the morning. It's lovely here in the morning. Good morning, Maynard. Is this guy amazing? He actually pauses to say, in the morning. He's getting bold. The memo is going to hit him shortly. Okay, now listen to the... as he's talking about roses as he wraps it up. You've always got a mass of blooms on each bush, haven't you? That's right, look, I mean some of the other roses like they wilt and you know it's soon time to give them two to the head and chuck them away but these roses seem to go on forever. The longer they're in the vase, the older they get. Give them two to the head and chuck them away.

08:31 Yeah, okay. What I like is that the woman just doesn't even respond. This is a pro. This guy's a pro. He knows what he's doing. He knows how to slip the propaganda in there. Oh yeah. He's awesome. He's no slouch, let's put it that way. Maynard, thank you so much. It does it for me. I love it. I really love it. So, shall we start off by saying that I am perhaps just as crazy as a dictator of a South American country? That's a point. I know what we're going to talk about today in advance, so let's make sure that we do talk about it. We're going to talk about the guy in Massachusetts. We're going to talk about Haiti. And I guess we're going to talk about this and probably a couple other items. And some lettermen, hopefully.

CHAPTER 03 / 26 Discussion

Hugo Chavez, US Earthquake Weapon Claims

Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez accused the United States Navy of using a weapon to induce the earthquake in Haiti as a drill for a future attack on Iran. The hosts compare these claims to their own previous discussions regarding tectonic weaponry. They suggest Chavez may be receiving this information from Russian intelligence sources.

hugo chavez· haiti· earthquake· iran· venezuela

09:20 Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I have a long Letterman clip to finish the show off with again after the credit roll. Because we know people love it. Well, you know, we got a lot of, we got more contributions than usual when we did the last one. And then we haven't gotten the cease and desist order yet because these clips are a little borderline in terms of lifting content. But... No, I think it's under fair use as news. I think it's fair use as news. Also, I think it's also something Letterman would appreciate. Oh, well, I don't care. Well, I don't care. You know, you love Letterman. You have a man crush on Letterman. Yeah, you do. Letterman, he's so funny. I'm a Letterman fan. So the, um, so what we do, you have the clip there?

10:03 What, of Letterman? No, of Caesar. Yes, of course. Let's listen to it right now. This is actually from... Here, listen to the news clip. Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the US was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the US Navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is destroying and taking over Iran. There you go. Is that not exactly what I said? Is that not exactly what I said? I just wanted to correct myself for saying Caesar. Caesar's good. You're into etiquette now. Meanwhile, we've got a dictator saying the same thing. All you want me to do. Oh yeah, Adam, you said the exact same thing. That makes me think that you and Chavez are both reading the same whatever it is, some paper in Russia. Well,

11:07 Where did you get this notion in the first place? Okay, well I got this notion and I'll let, don't interrupt me now, I don't tell you. And I backed this up with links in the show notes. First of all I get the notion that this, so we have to go back to the basics, that earthquake machines meant for war are real. and I go back to... That's not the basics, that's your crazy theory. Well, Monday April 28th 1997 in a Department of Defense news briefing and I have the briefing here from the office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense, it's a transcript. At the time the Secretary of Defense was William S. Cohen and he's talking about all different kinds of

11:55 about what the Department of Defense is doing about it. And I will just highlight a little ditty from that. There are reports, for example, and this is the secretary speaking, there are reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola virus and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon to say the least. Alvin Toffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races. Others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy scientific crops. Yet others are engaging in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.

12:52 Now that of course doesn't expressly state that the United States has such weaponry but, gee. Well that's a good point if that's a vetted memo. It is, it's a vetted memo and from the Department of Defense. And actually they removed it from their site and so I used the Wayback Machine at archive.org. Ah, they've removed it from their site? Of course! But you did find it on the archive.org as from that URL? Yes, yes, and that URL I'm posting. Removing it from their site bothers me. Of course, because, really. I got a couple more links that relate to that which probably just let the

13:37 Let the listeners and producers look out for themselves. But let me take you a little bit down further down my rabbit hole, John. You may have to suck in your gut. Before you do that. Yeah. Do you think Chavez listens to this show or he's getting this information from someplace else? Because it's not just that that memo doesn't say there's anything going on with this, this, this, this, this. And he also said this is just a test run. So they test it and then they're going to go decimate Iran. Where do you think he got this concept from? Did they have a CIA in Venezuela or somebody tipping him off? No, no, I do believe this is FSB. I'm pretty sure it's Russian intelligence. So it could be complete disinformation that this was the case, but this is from our own Department of Defense.

14:25 And this was in 1997. And of course we know that this is the stuff that Nikolai Tesla was working on. Okay, well let's go on with your rabbit hole. Alright, so what was the first thing I said when this earthquake struck? I said, isn't it amazing that the the second in command of Southcom. Yeah, right, you did say this. What the heck was he doing there? Well, you're going to love this because when it comes to what we, you know, the so-called false flag initiatives, i.e., a terror attack staged to make it look like someone else or any other type of event. So this is from nextgov.com and it's kind of a throwaway line in this article.

CHAPTER 04 / 26 Discussion

Southcom, Haiti Earthquake Relief Drill Coincidence

Reports indicate that the US Southern Command (Southcom) was conducting a disaster relief drill for a Haitian hurricane scenario the day before the actual earthquake struck. This coincidence is compared to similar drills held during 9/11 and the 7/7 London bombings. Additionally, the discovery of massive oil reserves in Haiti is discussed as a potential motive for US involvement.

southcom· disaster drill· haiti· earthquake· oil reserves

13:37 Let the listeners and producers look out for themselves. But let me take you a little bit down further down my rabbit hole, John. You may have to suck in your gut. Before you do that. Yeah. Do you think Chavez listens to this show or he's getting this information from someplace else? Because it's not just that that memo doesn't say there's anything going on with this, this, this, this, this. And he also said this is just a test run. So they test it and then they're going to go decimate Iran. Where do you think he got this concept from? Did they have a CIA in Venezuela or somebody tipping him off? No, no, I do believe this is FSB. I'm pretty sure it's Russian intelligence. So it could be complete disinformation that this was the case, but this is from our own Department of Defense.

14:25 And this was in 1997. And of course we know that this is the stuff that Nikolai Tesla was working on. Okay, well let's go on with your rabbit hole. Alright, so what was the first thing I said when this earthquake struck? I said, isn't it amazing that the the second in command of Southcom. Yeah, right, you did say this. What the heck was he doing there? Well, you're going to love this because when it comes to what we, you know, the so-called false flag initiatives, i.e., a terror attack staged to make it look like someone else or any other type of event. So this is from nextgov.com and it's kind of a throwaway line in this article.

15:14 So it's about, actually it's about, the article is about the Defense Department launching an online system to coordinate Haiti relief efforts. So here's in the second paragraph, on Monday, Jean Demey, DISA's technical manager, that's Defense Information Systems Agency, for the agency's transnational information sharing cooperation project, happened to be at the headquarters of the US Southern Command in Miami, preparing for a test of the system in a scenario that involved providing relief to Haiti in the wake of a hurricane. After the earthquake hit on Tuesday, DeMay said Southcom decided to just go live with the system.

15:57 Now, this happens every single time. FEMA had a drill before 9-11, the same exact day. 7-7 in London, there was a drill which coincidentally had the drill with explosives on buses and tube stations. Coincidence? I think not! And now once again there was a drill for some reason Department of Defense South the Southern Command Southcom was just happened to be doing a drill preparing for some natural disaster and they happen to be there. Please, please John, please. So why could this be? There's a whole bunch of reasons we've talked about a lot of them but now reports are coming in from multiple places around the globe.

16:45 about the amount of oil that has been discovered in Haiti. And I have a link to a French site, a French newspaper site, and about some dude who actually warned the authorities of seismic risk in Haiti 20 years ago. But in 2008, 20 oil sites, huge reserves were discovered in Haiti that apparently make Venezuela's oil reserves look like a glass versus a swimming pool. So, you know, obviously... That could come in handy. Yes, well check this out. So now I'm getting interested. You know, besides the fact that my, you know, that... Yeah, that you and Chavez are on the same page. We'll be drinking Cabernet before you know it.

CHAPTER 05 / 26 Discussion

Port-au-Prince Airport, Private Jet Traffic Suspicion

Analysis of flight data from the Port-au-Prince airport (MTPP) via FlightAware reveals a high volume of private executive jets and small aircraft rather than heavy cargo planes. One specific aircraft, registered to Mardon Inc, a petroleum refinery and oil discovery company, was spotted on the tarmac. The hosts question why luxury aircraft and oil industry planes are prioritized over international relief supplies.

flightaware· port-au-prince· private jets· mardon inc· relief efforts

17:39 And, yeah, well, hold on. So then I'm like, I'm going to look at what kind of aircraft are coming in and out of there because you can track on flightaware.com, you can track tail numbers. Okay, well, before you go into that, I want to mention something, which was a number of articles and you, because I want you to tell me what's wrong with this picture. There was, in fact, somebody sent me a link on Crooks and Liars had some links to some of these articles. There's been a slew of, I would say, planted stories about about why we aren't getting, you know, we talked about this last show, why water's not getting into the little airport in Port-au-Prince. There's a very small one runway airport there. And so the meme is that the place is too damn small to handle all this traffic. There's no place to put the planes. You gotta spread them out. You can't keep landing them. But which was all I thought was kind of discrepant considering the fact that Hillary showed up down there and they just closed the airport for three hours.

18:40 And then Bill and Chelsea landed at this airport in some huge jet just to go in there for a photo op and then they left. So if Bill and Chelsea can land, you know, why can't, why are all these other, lots of these planes are being diverted, Israeli planes, French planes, all these international operations, American planes apparently are landing, but these international planes are being sent to the other side of the mountain, which is the other country, Dominican Republic, where they have to make an eight hour drive with their supplies and gear and medicines and whatever to get into Haiti to do any relief work.

19:18 So this is a fun game you can play yourself. You can go to flightaware.com and then down the left hand side it says airport code so you can track all movements at the airport. The code for Port-au-Prince is M as in Mike, T as in Tango, P as in Papa, P as in Papa. So I've been following what's coming in and out of there. It's got a four letter code? ICAO code. Dude, you can land seven, you can land an Antonov there. It's a big international airport. What's interesting is that there's still a lot of scheduled American Airlines flights are still landing there.

19:57 Delta Airlines, but more interesting is the amount of private jets and small aircraft which really can have nothing to do with relief efforts except for doctors and there are a couple of airline and I've really been doing the research because if you hover over these tail numbers, actually and you can click on it, it tells you who the aircraft is registered to. And so you've got a lot of these like tool companies and of course there's a ton, a ton of charter companies that are sending their Gulf Streams and smaller jets down there. But I've seen a guy who owns South Beach Water Sports land in his Cessna 172 from Miami. But the one that I found interesting was November 419 Alfa Romeo.

20:54 which I can actually I can tell you exactly when it was there. Hold on a second, we'll look at history. Okay, so it was on the 13th of January. It landed at Port-au-Prince and there's actually a picture of it with a couple of, well it's kind of hard to tell if these gentlemen in uniform, in desert uniform, if they're coming out of that aircraft or not, but there's a picture of it right there on the tarmac at MTPP. That aircraft is owned by Mardon Inc. Mardon Inc. is a company

21:40 that specializes in petroleum refinery and oil discovery. Yeah, some awesome relief effort going on down there. Is it a publicly traded company? I know. John's like, bye, bye, bye, bye. So, yeah, we can just look at it today if you, I mean, and you don't even have to look really who these companies are. Just look at the type of aircraft. So you're telling me that you don't think that these these private jets owned by billionaires and companies like Mardon Inc. are there for relief purposes? I don't know, John. I'm just saying.

22:26 And there's a lot of registrations where you click on it and says, at the request of the registrant, this aircraft cannot be tracked. There's a lot of that going on. Now, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. Why would anybody in their right? Why would anybody request that their aircraft not be tracked? Because it's a CIA. Oh, okay. You know, there's a lot of these, these aircraft that they see me flying out of. Yeah, it shows you everywhere. So we've got planes coming in from a lot of them from Miami International These are the American Airlines flights. We've got and now maybe they're they're bringing in troops I mean that's possible but these look like scheduled flights. These are B6. These are Boeing 763s We've got an Air France coming in today. What's a 763? I've never heard of such a jet

23:22 763? That would be a 767-300 series? Yeah, exactly. Alright. Sorry, yes. We've got an Air France coming in today and that's an Airbus 320. These are big planes. Yeah, these are huge planes, absolutely. So, but there's also the huge planes aren't the thing that interest me because big planes can carry lots of cargo. But it's the small twin engine, you know, turbo props and they're in and out all the time. Look, if there's a real relief effort going on, what is some dinky five, six passenger turbo prop doing coming in? They should be diverting that away. Go away. We've got real work to do here.

CHAPTER 06 / 26 Discussion

Royal Caribbean, Independence of the Seas Haiti Barbecue

The Royal Caribbean cruise ship Independence of the Seas continued its scheduled stop at a private fenced-in beach in Labadee, Haiti, shortly after the earthquake. Passengers participated in water sports and barbecues while armed guards patrolled the perimeter. The cruise line defended the stop as a humanitarian call because the ship delivered 40 pallets of supplies.

royal caribbean· independence of the seas· labadee· haiti· cruise ship

24:04 So that's highly interesting to me. It's suspicious. Completely suspicious and it looks like tourism is just continuing. That's the thing that blows me. It's not like, you know, you heard about the cruise ship that pulled up off the northern coast. You hear about that? No. Oh please, you're telling me. Oh this is fantastic, here it is. Cruise ship docks at private beach in Haiti for barbecue and water sports. What cruise ship is this? This may be the one that Brooks is on. No, I'm not kidding, because when he went out, he's our producer for Cranky Geeks, when he went on vacation for a week he said that I guess our cruise ship, he's on this huge cruise ship, is going to not be docking in Haiti, but it was scheduled to. Well, this is the Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Independence of the Seas, which is one of the larger ones. I think that may be his boat. Is that the gay cruise? Okay, well.

25:04 I don't know, I have to look into it. I could be wrong, but it was one of the biggest boats, it's huge, and it was supposed to dock in Haiti. If I'd known this, we'd have to Twitter him or get some photos for us. Well, so there's a picture here of the, I don't know if this is docked at Haiti, but let me just read a little bit from the story. It went ahead, the Independence of the Seas went ahead with its schedule stopped at a fenced-in private Haitian beach. surrounded by armed guards, leaving its passengers to cut loose on the beach. Dude, you're right, this is the Gay Cruise. Just a few kilometers from one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the region's history. The ship's owners justified it as a humanitarian call because the ship also delivered 40 pallets of relief supplies while its passengers frolicked on zip lines and ate barbecue within the 12-foot high fence's perimeter.

25:58 The floor... okay, but also... We'll get some photos from him on this. I'm gonna be quite annoyed. So here's a quote from one of the passengers. I can't, I just can't see myself sunning on the beach, playing in the water, eating a barbecue and enjoying a cocktail while in Port-au-Prince there are tens of thousands of dead people being piled up on the streets with the survivors stunned and looking for food and water, one passenger wrote on the Cruise Critic Internet Forum. It was hard enough to sit and eat a picnic lunch at Labadee before the quake, knowing how many Haitians were starving," said another. I can't imagine having to choke down a burger there now. And then he went on to choke down his crewmate. This is like a surreal scene from that Coppola movie, Apocalypse Now. It is.

CHAPTER 07 / 26 Discussion

Hope for Haiti Now, Celebrity Benefit Concert Skepticism

The "Hope for Haiti Now" telethon, produced by Joel Gallen and featuring celebrities like Wyclef Jean and Bruce Springsteen, is criticized as an ego-driven exercise. The hosts argue that past benefit concerts like Live Aid and relief for Katrina victims failed to provide long-term solutions. They express frustration with the focus on international aid while domestic unemployment and homelessness remain high.

hope for haiti now· mtv· wyclef jean· george clooney· benefit concert

26:42 So, you know the plate boy bunnies are flown Explosions are taking place and people are dying. That's terrible. It is it's absolutely terrible Now there's another interesting thing that someone pointed out to me one of our Canadian listeners producers remember when Obama was in Canada meeting with Harper this was yeah vaguely. Okay, so when he was there General Michaila Jean discussed the plight of her native Haiti with US President Barack Obama. So they had a meeting up there and the president made clear that this is something he did care about, the economic and social issues, and wanted to confer and get the views of others about how we could do a better job in supporting economic and social development in Haiti. President Obama told her he'd like to talk further on the issue and by the way he said make sure you don't hang any pictures over your bed.

27:43 We're gonna fix that shit for you. Don't hang any pictures over your bed. Get rid of the mirror. Put the mirror on the ground. In fact, get out of there. So Toronto so anyway now I'm sorry John I have to add one more piece to this. Oh, here we go I'll hold this I'll hold this piece for later, but I do want to point out and and you know so after all tell us no no after no I got something this is good too after 40 or 50 years

28:20 of completely screwing this country. Oh yeah. And everybody agrees about that. Science! Science is in! There's no doubt about it, everybody agrees. We screwed that country. Now you actually had a pretty interesting assertion on the last show saying, you know, it was about time we did this because they need some proper help or whatever. But what irks me is around the world, now it's all, everyone, and by the way, it's always the artists. Let's get together, let's do a show, let's raise money for Haiti. Well, meanwhile, we just got another 500,000 people out of a job in the last month. We have 20% unemployment. We're stepping over homeless people. We've got millions and millions of children sleeping on the streets with no home to go to. But let's put on a concert! Yes, it's Hope for Haiti Now!

29:17 Coming to you on Saturday! Courtesy of the same people who bring you the MTV Video Music Awards! Joel Gallin! He was actually a nice guy, but so misguided. So, uh, live! What kind of celebrities do you think they could attract? Well, how about Wyclef Jean? Bruce Springsteen? This, by the way, is it's Hollywood and it's music and movies together. Jennifer Hudson, Mary J. Blige, Shakira, Sting. They'll be in New York City. Alicia Keys, Christina Aguilera, Dave Matthews, John Legend, Justin Timberlake, Stevie Wonder, and Taylor Swift with a group performance by Keith Urban, Kid Rock, and Sheryl Crow in Los Angeles, in London. Coldplay, a group performance by, who could do a benefit without them, Bono, The Edge, Jay-Z, and Rihanna. All performances to be available for purchase from Apple iTunes Store with pro fees benefiting select Haiti relief funds.

30:18 You know, how do we do with that live aid, John? How's Ethiopia doing? How about Hands Across America? How are we doing on live aid? How about farmers aid? How about any of these things? And what about the first one that was put on that years and years ago? I think it was with the Beatles and then the guy took all the money. Remember we had to do this big show for all the Katrina victims? How do we do with that? We still got people like starving down there. Yeah, choking to death in formaldehyde soaked trailers. Thank you. Hey, great show everybody! And everybody can sit there on their couch with your hand in your pants, drinking your beer, smoking your doobie, jacking off. Oh, what a great show! I feel so a part of it! You know what? Let's all make our icons on Twitter black. That's the clip for the beginning of the show. Oh, let me mark it then. Let's make our Twitter icons green for Haiti. Oh yes, I'm participating now. It's crap, ladies and gentlemen. Bull crap.

31:14 Bullcrap! How do you really feel? It pisses me off. This is about egos. And, and, and there's just a lot of misguided stuff, and people think they're doing so much good. Doing so much good. But doing good. You're not, you're not, you're not doing any good. I, I, there's never been any evidence that any of these things have ever gotten anywhere. I still remember Hands Across America was going to end homelessness in the United States. Yay! And I ran into the guy who was one of the heads of it and he was like a nice guy. And he was a nice guy, but he thought that this, I don't know what he, you know, I can imagine the kind of ego boost you could get when you could actually get, and of course there were spots where there were no hands, where you'd actually have somebody's hand next to a hand, and everyone just hooked up in this long chain across the country, which by the way was broken. Never completed, right? But it was still, you know, interesting.

CHAPTER 08 / 26 Discussion

Swedish Necrophilia Association, Facebook Donation Hoax

A Facebook group claiming to raise funds for Haitian earthquake victims gained 200,000 members before being revealed as a hoax by the "Swedish Necrophilia Association." The group claimed funds would be used to ensure bodies brought back from Haiti were in "good shape." This event is used to illustrate the lack of due diligence by donors during humanitarian crises.

sweden· facebook· hoax· necrophilia· donations

32:14 It's got to make you feel good. I think this is just to make people feel better. So I think one of the more interesting fundraising efforts, and of course there's tons of them now, right? Every country, everyone's gotten, it's all, you know, it's being funneled through the Red Cross and I don't have a... I don't have a Red Cross in very high regard as to how they deal with their money. It goes into the general fund. Exactly. In Sweden, there was a Haitian earthquake relief Facebook site, who they were called two kroner per member to earthquake victims of Haiti.

32:55 and they actually, they were up to like 200,000 members by the time someone actually read the Facebook site wherein this association, the SNA, which I'll explain what that is in a minute, said they were going to be sending 500,000 kroner to Haiti to ensure that the bodies which are brought home from Haiti are in as good shape as possible. This being the Swedish Necrophilia Association. And they'd already signed up 200,000 people before anyone realized this was a hoax and of quite some disturbing magnitude.

33:34 I mean this is... We can't even get people to donate to our show. Thank you. This is an excellent point. You know, a thing like that. That's terrible. Of course it's terrible but it just goes to show. And these are the Swedes who are above board. This is a massive... Swedish necrophiliac. This is a massive mind control... It's not even being run by anybody unless You know, maybe it's everyone who went to... hmm... maybe everyone who went to see Avatar... hmm, I wonder... Coincidence? I think not! And it's just like, because you feel so crap about your own life, and you... oh, someone has it shittier than me, ah, here's some money. It's just not the way we're gonna really fix the world. It just isn't. And right now there's 15 to 20 thousand troops there.

34:29 And I'm still seeing Anderson Cooper Vanderbilt pulling babies out of the rubble. On C-SPAN I could see one guy who did some kind of press conference from the military, some command. He could have been in a different studio on a chroma key green screen for all I care. For all you know. For all I know, exactly. So anyway, I stick by my theory and I'm waiting for my invite from Mr. Chavez. Yeah, and I think I can get one anytime soon. I can assure you. I think it's interesting to say that least support with him. Interesting to say the least that I called it exactly that way. No, it's interesting to say the least that he said the exact pretty much the exact same thing after I did after I did after you did. Of course, we're always ahead of everything. Anyone who listens to this show should. In fact, I think people listen to the show a month later and we'll still ahead of the game generally.

CHAPTER 09 / 26 Discussion

Logistics, Airport Tarmac Congestion in Haiti

The physical limitations of the Port-au-Prince airport are discussed, specifically the lack of tarmac space to park incoming aircraft. While some organizations like Kendrick Motorsports provided large planes for cargo, the hosts reiterate that the high percentage of executive aircraft slots is suspicious. They call for more transparency regarding the actual distribution of aid.

airport logistics· tarmac· relief cargo· executive aircraft· port-au-prince

35:26 But we're, for some reason, we're like surfers on the, we're at the crest, we're at the beginning of the wave that sweeps over the regular media, if it ever sweeps over anything. That's good, that was a good call. But I still think my call about the, you know, just we're just gonna take over the place. Well no, we both agree on that. And you said that there's a lot of flights, CIA flights coming in from those airports. Well, you know what, I don't even know if it's CIA flights because I also saw like hotel chains, companies, so aircraft, luxury aircraft, right? So smaller

36:02 like hawkers, so these like 10 passenger, you're not putting a lot of pallets of water in these planes, that's my point. You're not dragging any water. You're moving people and they're registered to companies that build luxury hotels. You know, what does that tell you? I will say there are certain, like Kendrick's Motorsports, and you go to their website and they said, hey, you know, we've got our plane, we've given our plane, and of course, Kendrick Motorsports, they've got to fly, I don't know if they do motorcycle, oh, they do NASCAR. So they fly planes around in big parts. So it's a big-ass plane. They said, hey, we're going to put our plane in and we'll transport whatever you want.

36:38 and they actually got local goods. So there is a lot of good being done, but all of this bull crap about we can't... It's a huge airport. This is a tourist destination airport. Go look at it on Google Earth. And I will say it is possible that there's not a lot of... tarmac is always the problem, right? That's the congestion with all of our airports, certainly in the United States, is not, you know, the airspace around it. It's where to park all this crap when it comes in. There's just not enough area to actually put the aircraft. So you do have to have some kind of coordination of get them in, get the shit off and take off again and let's roll, right? So you do have to do that. But if you're taking up slots,

37:19 landing slots with lots of these executive aircraft and it's 80 to 85 percent is executive aircraft. So it's, I guess it's politicians, it must be some type of command. I hope to God, and there are some flights that are doctors, so there's definitely, you don't need a big plane to bring in a lot of doctors, so that's good. But it's just highly suspicious. There's just a lot of weird stuff going on and it's not being reported properly and you have to wonder when you see the news reports. And yes, I think it's fantastic that we're still saving people from the rubble, but enough already. Show me something about what's really happening. Don't show me one helicopter pooping out a couple of barrels of stuff.

38:07 And then annual all those no we couldn't drop anything. I'm like, oh my brain hurts from all this Anyway, I think your brain hurts a lot. Yeah All right So you're gonna give us a lot another kicker at the end after we make our plea sure since we're talking about airplanes There's a knee. I want to run a clip Oh lovely Because you know, you're in a role, you know, you've you know how to fly you can you can analyze this We know both know about computers. So this is kind of a long clip of But I'm gonna it's from the new show on Fox human target Fox Fox Fox and it is probably the biggest crock of crap In terms of technical anything that I've ever heard in my life Let me give you the premise there was like I'd only caught the end of the show I can't imagine that I would have gotten to this clip by the way had I watched the beginning of the show

CHAPTER 10 / 26 Discussion

Human Target, Fox TV Technical Inaccuracies

A segment from the Fox television show "Human Target" is critiqued for its extreme technical inaccuracies regarding aviation and computing. The scene depicts characters flying an Airbus upside down while attempting to "reboot" the flight computer using a laptop and a "skeleton key" USB stick. The hosts mock the premise that flight management software could be downloaded via Wi-Fi mid-flight.

human target· fox· fly-by-wire· airbus· technical errors

37:19 landing slots with lots of these executive aircraft and it's 80 to 85 percent is executive aircraft. So it's, I guess it's politicians, it must be some type of command. I hope to God, and there are some flights that are doctors, so there's definitely, you don't need a big plane to bring in a lot of doctors, so that's good. But it's just highly suspicious. There's just a lot of weird stuff going on and it's not being reported properly and you have to wonder when you see the news reports. And yes, I think it's fantastic that we're still saving people from the rubble, but enough already. Show me something about what's really happening. Don't show me one helicopter pooping out a couple of barrels of stuff.

38:07 And then annual all those no we couldn't drop anything. I'm like, oh my brain hurts from all this Anyway, I think your brain hurts a lot. Yeah All right So you're gonna give us a lot another kicker at the end after we make our plea sure since we're talking about airplanes There's a knee. I want to run a clip Oh lovely Because you know, you're in a role, you know, you've you know how to fly you can you can analyze this We know both know about computers. So this is kind of a long clip of But I'm gonna it's from the new show on Fox human target Fox Fox Fox and it is probably the biggest crock of crap In terms of technical anything that I've ever heard in my life Let me give you the premise there was like I'd only caught the end of the show I can't imagine that I would have gotten to this clip by the way had I watched the beginning of the show

39:01 But luckily I missed it and only got to see this part because it was just ridiculous. So here's the premise. There was some sort of a terrorist activity taking place on a plane. It was a guy with a crotch bomb or something. They caught the plane on fire. They couldn't get the plane fire out for some reason. And this guy who is a secret agent, or one of his minions, this is like a Dreamliner or a 767, I can't tell, could be a 7777, but it's a big jet. And they flipped it over and they're flying it upside down. Right. And now they're walking around on, of course, the unsupported roof, which is not to be walked around on because it's not meant for that, but that's OK. And they're having, by the way, fights and things and things like that. And everybody, all the passengers are still got their belts. They're hanging upside down in their belts. OK.

39:56 Now I couldn't tell which character this was by, but I believe it was the pilot or something like that. They can't get the plane turned right, so it's flying in a straight line upside down. And the pilot says, and you're going to hear this part because it's in here, when you flip the plane over, You probably blew up the computer controls. This is a fly-by-wire plane, apparently. Oh, it's an Airbus, of course. Then, of course, totally right. You're screwed. No, you're not screwed if you've got these people on board. So I want you to listen to this long clip and see how much of it you can... It's like the most astonishing crock of crap I've ever heard in my life.

40:45 First of all, okay, let me just say one thing I'm flying upside down in an Airbus. This is not how I talk John This is not like you can you must have learned to come to flight controls. I'd be like We're screwed! This shit is busted, dude! You got any idea? Alright, listen. This is- by the way, listen to Scully. Now Scully, I mean Sully. Listen to Sully- Sullenberger. You heard him when he was- and he wasn't hanging upside down. He's like, right here, right here. He's barking it, you know? He's like, this is not- this is so unrealistic, I already can't stand it. Which of course is great when you're- Yeah, when you're listening to this stuff instead of being mind controlled and watching it. Here we go.

41:49 Something could process what was happening. I know how it feels What if we shut it off? Can we get the controls then? The controls sure, but we can't roll the plane back safely without the computer's help. Couldn't we just reboot the computer or something? That sounds like me when Mevio's down. Couldn't we just reboot the computer or something? It gets better. Actually, Mickey's not that far off. I imagine the flake computers a couple years old probably like 800 megahertz processing power who most

42:24 Who's this kid is the girl yeah, she's like a secret agent. Yeah, it was kid a lot of shows of late They're portraying the women as the as the nerdy geeks that know more than the guy say I could name about five shows where the head geek is a girl is a female John you You know, do you recall you went to see that movie Avatar? Have you noticed anything in your television viewing behavior that has changed recently? Back it up, back it up.

43:00 Where's that get up so you're just at the beginning when she starts talking about the 800 megahertz. I heard that I heard she's okay I'm saying if I could download the flight management software to my laptop We wouldn't need to fix the plane's computer because you see smart you want to replace the flight computer with a laptop Coffee maker in your galley they flew to the moon with the chip on temp that size these are not advanced systems Okay, so where do we get the software? This is a manufacturer's internal network. Oh, this is gonna be tricky. Downloading now. Okay, wait, stop. Let me tell you what's going on. I know exactly what's happening. No, no, but you don't know the one element of this. Besides the fact that our laptop probably covered with puke in these situations.

44:02 She's got this laptop that somehow she's going to connect. The pilots are hanging upside down while all this is taking place, right? We're not in the pilot in the front part of it. I don't know what's going on. Who's flying the plane then? I have the computer upside. I have no idea. Why are we even talking about this? Well, anyway, so she's going to contact the manufacturer of the software that powers the plane's computer. Of course, you know, it's not as though that these things are processor dependent or they're operating system dependent or that they use special I.O. that you can't have on a laptop. Or like a plug that doesn't fit. There's no way.

44:43 in a million years that this scenario can even get closer. What is your point? What is your point? Like television is not real? Is that your point? No, that's not the point. The point is they've got one other little element here. For one thing, she's somehow contacting manufacturers website from the air with her laptop, I guess with Wi-Fi. With a bit torrent. And she pulls out and you can't see this, I have to explain it. She pulls out a USB key, sticks it into the laptop and tells everybody it's a skeleton key that can break into any network. Well, this is mind control. So within two seconds she plugs this thing in and she's on the network of the company somewhere in Boca Raton or who knows where they are and downloading the software that would normally be running on the plane's computer because it's so easy to do that.

45:33 And, ah, it just, it just, play it. I can't take explaining much more of it. Hey, Brooke says we're gonna have to patch a new computer in manually. Where's the avionics bay? It's right here behind the front wheel well, but I can't find any access panels. That's because it's on the bottom of the plane. Avionics aren't meant to be accessed in the air. Oh, wait a minute. There's a vent on this end of the cargo compartment. We'll have to crawl to reach it, but it's big enough for us to get into the wheel well. That's not on the schematic. Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure. I used to date a ground crew guy. I know things about the plane I shouldn't. What does that supposed to mean?

46:25 What do you think it's supposed to mean? There's secrets. Okay, you don't have to play any more of it, but it goes over. There's none left. We played the whole thing. We played two minutes. That's two minutes of my life. I'll never get back. What they do then is somehow they get on the outside of the plane through the wheel. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I'm just going to shoot myself. And you can't John, I forbid you from watching that. This is what passes for entertainment in the United States, but it's people actually believed any of that's even possible Oh Dude, and if you could fly the plane yourself, why can't you flip it back over? Of course you can all you got to do is you got to point the noise the nose down which in this case would be pulling the stick back because you're upside down and then you get some airspeed and then you just Stick and rudder it around. It's not that problem. You point the thing down. You're not gonna be upside down anymore now, will ya?

CHAPTER 11 / 26 Discussion

Secondhand Smoke, Pfizer Marketing Memes

A new public service announcement campaign regarding secondhand smoke leaking through light fixtures and floorboards is identified as a potential marketing "meme." The hosts suggest this campaign is designed to create legislative pressure that ultimately benefits Pfizer's smoking cessation drug, Chantix. They argue that socialized healthcare will lead to further restrictions on smoking in private homes.

secondhand smoke· pfizer· chantix· advertising· smoking ban

47:16 Duh! Now stop, stop, John, you're making me crazy. We're wasting valuable time. Okay, okay. I mean, you know, I think we don't get... I think as punishment we shouldn't play your Letterman clip after that. That was so real newsy. I don't understand why you can complain about this. Alright, let's play... I got a new meme. Let's play this. Secondhand smoke. Oh boy. Good, this will lead into some shantix talk. Want me to play it? Yeah, hit it. Even if no one in your home smokes, secondhand smoke can be closer than you think. Yeah, my ass. Smoke from a neighboring apartment can enter through the ventilation system, through cracks in the walls, and even through floorboards and light fixtures. Secondhand smoke is toxic and can harm you and your family.

48:20 So, what was this for? Was that just to say, go arrest your neighbors? Target, they just keep playing this. I've seen it three times. And I'm, by the way, I'm matching smoke coming out of the light fixture. Yeah, well, I think I'm gonna... Smoke coming in. Anyway, while they're showing this commercial, all they show imagery is a bunch of little kids playing on the floor. Of course. And every so often, either rubbing their eyes or coughing. Oh no! Well, this is probably all this is probably when Pfizer said they were gonna step up their shantyx This is probably just more ways to get people to take this wonder dry. I am convinced of it Yeah, I think it really has something to do with it. We're gonna outlaw smoking altogether In your apartment, you can't smoke in your own house. Of course, that'll be forbidden because it's leaking through the light fixtures

CHAPTER 12 / 26 Discussion

Chantix Side Effects, Carter Albrecht and Suicide Risks

The dangerous side effects of the drug Chantix are discussed, including the case of musician Carter Albrecht, who was shot by a neighbor during a drug-induced psychotic break. Listener emails describe extreme behavioral changes and suicidal ideation while taking the medication. One listener reports that returning to smoking pure tobacco helped stabilize a girlfriend suffering from Chantix-related mental instability.

chantix· pfizer· carter albrecht· side effects· suicide

49:08 Couple of things some little boy. Yeah, so this Chantix drug this wonder drug. I just wanted to Relay a couple of quick stories. So first of all a kind of well-known musician Carter Albrecht who played I have to say played for Edie Burkell and New Bohemians you remember them from what I am is what I am and He was on Chantix. Was that it? Is that what he did? I don't know the song or them but... Oh, Aidy Burkell and the New Bohemians? Yeah, they're known. He's from Texas. So the guy was completely... he was on Chantix and he was completely freaking out and so he went over to his neighbor's house and was like pounding on his door and going crazy and his neighbor like shot him. Oh jeez! He said, I tried to give him like a warning shot through the door and he shot him in the head. You know, so it was boom.

50:02 So that was one. Then New York Magazine has this fantastic article, all of these are linked in the show notes at noagendashow.com. Whoa, this guy documents him starting on the great news drug from Pfizer on January 25th and it winds up that he's waking up at home with business cards from people he can't remember meeting, with sandwiches half eaten that he can't remember buying. Completely off his rocker. It is the most scary story in the world. Wow. And then I've been getting tons of emails from people saying, you know, I'm freaking out on this stuff. Remember the girl Emily whose email I read on the last show? Yeah. She's like, I'm so crazy. I hate you, Adam, but I don't. I love you and I just want to go kill myself or someone and she's freaking out. So Levi, her boyfriend,

50:56 He's emails me said dude. You know I heard you read Emily's note on the air. She's really just really rough man, and now she ever I played the show for you know I played our show for you for her and she stopped the the shanty X but of course that's when it gets the worst it's like that's like then you're in cold turkey come down mode from this stuff that is like a combination of an 8-ball and shrooms and a Cocaine bump up your ass all at the same time. How would you know this? I'm reliably informed. And so, and I'm like, you know, and it's just like, what are we going to do? Because she's freaking out. And I said, do what Mickey did. Start smoking. And, you know, it's like you got it because that's what she did. You got to immediately start smoking. I said, you know, but don't get the, you know, Marlboro stuff with the formaldehyde, get like American Spirit or something else. So at least it's pure tobacco and whatever pay. But, you know, it's kind of it's kind of organic, but still smoke.

51:51 And he says, you know what? I just wanted to say thank you. Thanks to Mickey for the advice. It's working. Emily is now almost her normal semi sane self again. And she's plugging the show like crazy for everybody because we've saved her life. Another life saved. Another life saved thanks to no agenda. So, you know, I hate to say we're probably the guy's probably dead right because the bad thing I mean this this is the worst situation that we've stumbled upon. It's luckily the mainstream media is picking up on it, but it's it's astonishing that it's gone as far as it has.

52:31 It is an outrage. It's an absolute outrage. And I'm sure you're right, this secondhand smoke, it's all a part of the campaign. They just want to get people off cigarettes. I'm not against all that, but stop smoking! No, this is a classic two-step marketing scheme where you create a situation that when you go down the line, it benefits something you're trying to sell. And so you create the secondhand smoke, which influences legislatures and makes people think twice about it. And then the real long term of it is you have to get people to stop smoking because you're going to make it illegal, pretty much illegal to smoke. Which of course means that there'll be subsidies for stop smoking medicines. And of course, this is what socialized health care is all about. It's going to be groovy. We'll all be walking around stoned on Chantix.

53:27 But we won't be smoking. And so when I see these things, these meet what I consider to be a meme because it's just too well... And by the way, this commercial is extremely well produced. Oh really? I got to see it. It's very, very slick. So I mean, this is not a bunch of slouches here. So if I can just take a moment here, John, since we have clearly admittedly saved a life a human life. We have saved suffering. Probably saved quite a few. But this is one that's documented.

54:02 We are lifesavers. I feel that's worth something. Yeah, it is I feel that's worth some money and I and I urge anyone within the sound of my voice to donate to this program Some people have done so over the past couple days since our last show John you want to give us a little rundown? Yeah, we got some number of $50 that we got it. We actually got pretty good numbers, but we didn't get a lot of big numbers. It's like little smaller donors, which is which is great and So, but let's name the $50 donors actually 66.60, you know, people always love to do that. Patrick Bluth, B-L-A-U-T-H in.

CHAPTER 13 / 26 Discussion

Donor Acknowledgments, No Agenda Value-for-Value

The hosts read the names of recent donors who contributed $50 or more to the show. They mention Nicholas Wallace, who sacrificed his Netflix account to donate, and Sonya Fair. They encourage listeners to support the program directly through the "value-for-value" model, noting that donations often dip during holidays or major international disasters like the Haiti earthquake.

donations· value-for-value· john kelly· ricky pierce· sonya fair

53:27 But we won't be smoking. And so when I see these things, these meet what I consider to be a meme because it's just too well... And by the way, this commercial is extremely well produced. Oh really? I got to see it. It's very, very slick. So I mean, this is not a bunch of slouches here. So if I can just take a moment here, John, since we have clearly admittedly saved a life a human life. We have saved suffering. Probably saved quite a few. But this is one that's documented.

54:02 We are lifesavers. I feel that's worth something. Yeah, it is I feel that's worth some money and I and I urge anyone within the sound of my voice to donate to this program Some people have done so over the past couple days since our last show John you want to give us a little rundown? Yeah, we got some number of $50 that we got it. We actually got pretty good numbers, but we didn't get a lot of big numbers. It's like little smaller donors, which is which is great and So, but let's name the $50 donors actually 66.60, you know, people always love to do that. Patrick Bluth, B-L-A-U-T-H in.

54:39 dry a drum and dry I think is a pronunciation Germany Deutschland dr. dry dry I see it I dry ice dry ice it's like dry ice only dry ice dry as Germany dry ice we also have John Kelly Ricky Pierce John Petrucci Laurie and Laurie Corpy who are on the Knights program they came in somebody with no name came in but he wants us to plug your donation calm and feel the joy of giving Which I think is a good... What is that? It's just a site, yourdonation.com. He just said, from your friends at yourdonation.com. Oh, I know what this is. It's a music monetization. Yeah, it's a music site. Yeah, you donate to artists. Yeah. Yeah. Nicholas Wallace, who's actually a student in Toledo, and he's sacrificing his Netflix account for our benefit. Well, I think you'll get a lot... Dude, you know what? You can now... Anywhere you go today, you can say, I helped save a life.

55:39 and then we have sonya fair who actually donated the work and sensor but i'd mention ur uh... but it's fifty claudia gonzalez george george gonzalez george is our last name by norman oklahoma which is where the university of oklahoma is in the uh... it's where the wind goes rustling down the plains is not to get normal call was a nice place and then we had our at two hundred twenty two dollars from val communications and a hundred dollars from uh... from Craig Lennox in New South Wales and that's it. That's it? That's what we get for saving a life? It's the way it goes. You know what, next time it's gonna be your life we're saving and then how you gonna feel? It might be. So give us a... we need some more donations. I don't want to go too lightly.

56:28 John, ever since the new year began it's like everyone's like given to Haiti and stuff like that. Right, that's where the money went, went to Haiti. And we also had a holiday this week and I think that hurts our donations. Noagenda, Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak dot com slash NA or just go to the noagenda show dot com and help us out this week. We'd like to get more than this. Why won't anyone do a benefit concert for us? I can call Joel Gallen, he'll produce it. We got NGB and Brother Love. How about a no agenda charity concert with Podsafe? That's what I was just saying. Brother Love, NGB, that's my point dude. How about a benefit concert where we just do no music, you just give us money?

CHAPTER 14 / 26 Discussion

Norway Spiral, HAARP and Tectonic Anomalies

New images from Norway show atmospheric waveforms that the hosts link to HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program). They argue these "sound waves" in the sky are evidence of electromagnetic waves being used to vibrate the Earth's crust. Similar anomalies were reportedly seen on seismographs prior to the Haiti earthquake, supporting the theory of man-made tectonic events.

norway· haarp· ionosphere· seismograph· earthquake machine

57:22 Well, they might as well do that with those other ones. You know, I was doing my own little concert that whoa the whole building just shook whoa Earthquake machine that was weird. Well wait hold on let me see if it's an earthquake will you know hit me in about They come, I think there's 500 miles an hour or whatever they travel. I mean, it was like someone slammed the door, except you can't just slam the door in this building and that happened. Oh, that slam the door sound is an earthquake. Really? Yeah. Well, I felt something. I literally just felt, and it felt like a little roll. Yeah, look, I'll check the earthquake center, but there could be a quake. Well, why don't you do that? Because, well, I tell you that once again, oh yes,

58:01 More lights over Norway except now and you'll love this is this is not even hit the lame stream mainstream media yet So this is from a Finnish site and I've gotten a you know done a Google translate on it and except now This is it's this is amazing when you see these pictures and you can see him in the show notes no agenda show calm this is from the NRK which I believe is the national broadcaster in in Norway So right about the same spot, now we have waveforms that look suspiciously like... Exactly. Like an oscillation. Which is exactly how... And of course, this is the time that you might see northern lights, but this is not northern lights when you see these pictures. It's also, it's not a UFO. This is clearly... In fact, what are the officials over there say?

59:03 Hold on a second. They said it was, it might have been a jet at very high altitude breaking the sound barrier because it looks like sound waves. Well, please look in the show notes at noagendashow.com and please look at, and actually it's listed under Haiti, you will see where they did analysis on the seismograph before the Haiti earthquake And you'll see all the anomalies and this is what's showing up in the sky once again So instead of it being this beautiful circle now, it's waves because that's what harp does harp is a an array of radio antennas It's a billion watts. It shoots it up to the ionosphere and

59:48 And then they call it harp because what it does is it hits the ionosphere, it comes down back to Earth and it's hitting with a certain frequency and the Earth starts to vibrate just like the strings of a piano or a harp in this case. And when you see it, you see these pictures you're going to say, oh crap, that totally has to be harp. If you buy into it. If not, you know, they probably just got really good satellite reception up there at that base. Because it's a lot of antennas. And then of course, I'm amazed that you didn't blog this, John. I thought this would be totally for you. In Turkey, Izmir, Turkey, a sheep gave birth to a dead baby lamb that has a human face. Yeah, this is actually over a week old. Yeah. It's January 14th is when it came out. So yeah, it is a week old. You're right. Did you blog this?

CHAPTER 15 / 26 Discussion

AB InBev Strike, Iceland Financial Crisis

A strike at AB InBev has led to beer shortages in Europe, particularly affecting Belgian brands. In Amsterdam, new regulations are closing the Red Light District at night and raising the age limit for workers. Meanwhile, Iceland faces total economic collapse and potential revolution as the government attempts to pay back the UK and Netherlands for the Icesave bank failure under IMF pressure.

ab inbev· iceland· imf· amsterdam· beer strike

1:00:44 Maybe one of the guys blogged it. I saw the story and it was kind of gross. Kinda? It's totally gross. You know, everyone's seen an animal like that with a flat face and it becomes... This looks very scary. And this is from AFP, Agent France-Presse. This is not like some, you know, not the National Enquirer. This is a serious news outfit. Yeah, it's a real story. I think it's a nothing to see here story personally. Well, no, I think it's more of a... And now, back to real news. That's what I think it is. Yeah, okay. That's what I think it is. Not as good as my discussion of the upside down airplane. No, but I have real news for you. You want to hear some real news? I've got some real horrible news. First of all, there's a big problem in Europe right now because AB InBev

1:01:41 That's Anheuser-Busch, InBev. It has been on strike for a week and we're running out of beer. Now it's time to panic. The UK is getting angry because there's no more. There's other beer but the Belgian beer is good. Everyone loves Belgian beer. They're down to their last supplies in the stores in Gitmo Nation lowlands. Where, by the way, they've just announced the Red Light District is going to close at night. Where's this? In Holland, in Amsterdam. You're talking about panic. They're gonna close at night? Yes. And you have to be a minimum of 23 years old to stand in the windows. So they're going to close

1:02:24 Between uh... What is wrong with this country? Between 4am and 8am it'll be closed. So you have to get your jollies in before 4am. What's the reason for the age restrict? What is the age of consent in Holland? 16. So can you work for a living at 16? Yeah. Can you get a job? Do you need a work permit? What was that? Dude are they coming to get you? It's a garbage truck going by those things are so noisy. It's astonishing. So yeah, it's 16 you can get a job Like can't the girls in the windows room because it's because Kipmo Nation Lowlands is in lockdown status John It's why do you think all these Dutch people are listening to the show and donating money? Although haven't seen much of it today But yeah, they're in total lockdown These people are being crushed

1:03:15 Crushed it's Iceland is first. They've got Iceland boy. Have you been following Iceland? No, not at all Oh my goodness well of course the the Dutch and the and the British governments bailed out the ice I save bank situation and gave their citizens their money back which of course was primarily you know like government officials who had messed at all their money because of you know, they knew how the scam worked and And now Iceland has to pay back and the parliament is just voting without even showing the parliament what the deal is because they have to pay back the UK and the Netherlands. And it's bankrupting the whole country. And the people aren't allowed to see the deal of the payback. And you've got like pirate parties starting and it's going to be a total revolution there. Total.

1:04:04 They're being completely annihilated. And of course, you know, they can't get into the European Union because of all this and the IMF is putting the screws to them. Iceland, I feel horrible. And no one's talking about it because it's Iceland, you know, gives a crap about Iceland. The oldest working democracy. Thank you. Very good point. And the first one to topple, literally topple. I'll put a couple of links in about Iceland. It's horrible, horrible what is happening there. So yeah, get more nation lowlands. Oh man, don't make me laugh.

CHAPTER 16 / 26 Discussion

Ron Paul, CIA Coup Allegations

Congressman Ron Paul stated during a Campaign for Liberty event in Atlanta that the CIA has effectively committed a coup against the US military. Paul alleged that the CIA operates as a government unto itself, funded by the Federal Reserve and involved in the international drug trade. The hosts discuss the significance of a sitting congressman making such bold claims.

ron paul· cia· federal reserve· drug trade· military coup

1:04:40 No, no, no. There's no freedom there. People are like, oh, it's such a liberal place. No way. Absolutely not. You can't fart without paying a tax. And, you know, they've got the black boxes coming to the cars there to track you wherever you go. Meanwhile, back at home... Sounds like Singapore. Now you can still chew gum in Holland. But that's about it. So Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul who of course people were laughing at during the last presidential election. They're laughing at him. So the guy's been pretty right, wouldn't you say? Wouldn't you say he's been kind of on the money with everything, John? Yeah, no, I'm a fan. Okay, good. So on the 15th of January,

1:05:25 He was doing his campaign for liberty. He took whatever was left of his campaign money and he started the campaign for liberty. And he's in Atlanta, Georgia. And I want you to hear what he says about the CIA. Now this is a US congressman, the one who's been right about... Now when was this done? It says 15th, yeah 15th of January. Okay so this is recent. Yeah last week. Listen to what he's saying. He said the CIA runs everything says it's been a coup the CIA has has committed a coup on the US military The CIA runs everything one more time

1:06:30 He said, there's been a coup, have you heard? It's like a song. There's been a coup, have you heard? There's been a coup, have you heard? It's the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything. They run the military. They're the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on these countries. It's not even the military that does that, the CIA runs this. And of course the CIA is every bit as secret as the Federal Reserve. And yet, think of the harm that they have done since they were established in World War II. They are a government unto themselves, they're in businesses, they're

1:07:08 So he says, you know, they're funded by the Federal Reserve, they're running drugs. It's like a US congressman saying this. It's pretty wild. Let's see how long he lives. No, don't make jokes like that. I'm not. No, don't make, I mean, you know. It's not a joke. Because he's gone, he's been so right about everything. Before, he could be like, oh, ha ha. Like my Uncle Don said, what? The kook from Texas? And Uncle Don's a smart guy. He gets the, uh... He plays the crackpot game. Yeah, that's true. He's smart. And he has, uh... Don't wanna get none of that.

CHAPTER 17 / 26 Discussion

Christmas Bomber, Miranda Rights and Waterboarding Debate

The interrogation of the "Christmas Bomber" (Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab) is discussed following a C-SPAN inquiry. Officials including Janet Napolitano and Dennis Blair were questioned about the decision to Mirandize the suspect rather than using "extra-military" interrogation techniques like waterboarding. The hosts also briefly mention a 2.5 magnitude earthquake that occurred in Milpitas, California.

christmas bomber· miranda rights· janet napolitano· waterboarding· fbi

1:07:52 But he's, that's for a congressman to be going off like that. That's pretty big. The CIA and the drug trade, which of course we talk about. You know, Afghanistan is obviously some sort of a drug deal going on. It's ridiculous. And for all we know, those agents that were blowed up, it may have been part of a drug deal gone bad. I mean, that's what every time you have a murder in New York, that's what they always think. drug deal gone bad. I was also following last night on C-SPAN, I don't have any clips or articles but there's this inquiry and of course they have to go and blow it, they call him the Christmas bomber. What the hell is that? That's no meme. They moved away, at first they had underwear, you know of course crotch bomber is the only appropriate term so it's the Christmas bomber and we got Napolitano sitting there, we've got

1:08:43 was it Blair I think Blair so we got that dude who runs that kind of freaky you know security department of all things security and then and they start asking the question like so who was responsible for Moran so the whole thing is about why is he going to civil court instead of being waterboarded and boy there was a lot of like we know that What is it? Covert or non-field manual listed interrogation techniques work. Or extra, was it extra as an outside of, extra military field manual interrogation techniques. We know they work, i.e. waterboarding. So who made the decision to... So this is that meme about we know they work. How does that meme even make any sense with all the evidence that says that this stuff doesn't work?

1:09:39 Yeah, I don't know. The entire Fox News organization has the, it's torture but it works. But it works, but it works, but it works, but it doesn't work. That's the point of it. The only reason you do it is because you want to torture somebody. And the funny thing is, is you're like, they're sitting there, why don't they just waterboard these people and get the whole session over with? Here, Napolitano, I'm gonna ask you a question, I'll let you answer it once, then I'm gonna waterboard you and you'll answer it again. And then we'll have the answer you know you'll show give up like it in three seconds. So anyway so the question is who Miranda is this guy and I guess once you read someone the Miranda rights and that's it right is that.

1:10:22 Is that it? Then they can then if you tell someone you have the right to remain silent and they have that right it's like a knighthood and then all of a sudden you can't do anything else you can waterboard the guys that kind of how it works John? I don't know. Well anyway so they go down the line and it's Napolitano. 2.5 here wait here it is 2.5 earthquake hit out of Milpitas about the time you were I think if I got my times right here. This is just reported It takes forever to get this thing on the site. Well, not forever just a few minutes, but it was in It felt it felt like a little tremor definitely. Yeah, it was probably this it was it was nothing I'm surprised you did whatever that landed because I didn't feel anything They've been knocking the ground out here across yeah, that's a piece of crap

1:11:11 where your building is and if it was a real quake, that whole building would probably fall apart. Now my building won't. My building's sturdy, please tell me. Uh-huh. Okay. So maybe I should, hey you know what? Earthquake machines don't exist. What am I saying? I must be foolish to think that. Anyway go ahead with the... So they go down the line and these are the three people, the top people of Homeland Security and the CIA, above the CIA actually, and they all say, well I don't know. And it was Justice, Justice Department as well. I don't know. No one asked me if they could Mirandize him. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who did it. The FBI did it. I think the FBI is going to get blamed for a lot of stuff. Oh yeah. Oh, I'm by the way wrong about the earthquake. This was this report from yesterday. Oh. Another thing that was kind of disturbing, let's just switch gears for a second. So this Steve Brown guy, and I just want to throw my two cents in about this.

CHAPTER 18 / 26 Discussion

Scott Brown, Massachusetts Senate Election Theater

The election of Republican Scott Brown to the US Senate seat formerly held by Ted Kennedy is analyzed as political theater. Brown, a former model and state senator, is described as a "clean-cut" alternative to the struggling Obama administration. The hosts question the "common man" meme surrounding Brown and his pickup truck, noting that the founding fathers were actually intellectual elites.

scott brown· martha coakley· massachusetts· tea party· republicans

1:12:16 We haven't done a lot of, I have so much Gitmo Nation East European news, but this has been kind of an, well we did Haiti, that's halfway. So Steve Brown comes kind of out of nowhere and the whole thing, and I'm telling you this, it could not be more entertainment. It could not be more like wrestling, what has just happened before our very eyes. So we've got this beautiful looking black man in the White House and he's trying to do all kinds of stuff and everyone's yelling about healthcare. And then all of a sudden, because of the great health care we have, it took him a while but Ted Kennedy dies. They kept him alive for a long time on health care that works as far as I'm concerned.

1:12:59 He dies and then a seat opens up and in Massachusetts, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts where it's been, you know, this is the bluest of all blue states. Democrats have, I guess, ruled there forever, if I can believe the reports. All of a sudden it's up for grabs and the president even goes and he gets heckled as he tries to show his support for the Democratic candidate Coakley. And then all of a sudden there's this dude who's been riding around a pickup truck who's beautiful, beautiful white man. And he's an ex-model, he was an actor, naked model, he was an actor. He's a good looking man, you know, he's beautiful, beautiful family, you know, it's like total clean cut. The shit we used to joke about in Europe when we talked about... His wife's an anchor on the news. Yeah, we used to joke about this when I was living in Europe, like American politicians are so fake, they got fake hair, fake tans, fake teeth. This is that guy.

1:13:52 And he has no real, he's got a political career, you know, yeah, he was state senator and before that he was like something of something. But he's a rookie, remind you of anybody? Yeah. But the Tea Party, because I looked at teaparty.org, they're hailing this as like the savior because of course he takes this magic, legendary 60th seat so the Democrats don't have a filibuster-proof supermajority. No, no, wait a minute, stop. They don't have a supermajority. They have 59 votes which can pass anything and they own

1:14:27 the house but and they have a president that's a Democrat but they can't now they're screwed because of this one vote. Give me a break these guys are whiners. They're looking for an excuse to get out of it. And so I was thinking so first I'm seeing all this like I mean I don't know if I'm just the only person who sees it I see you know like we've got the beautiful looking black man he's not doing too well as they said on Jon Stewart show and you know he's not a magic Negro which is crack me up that whole skit. and uh... and then we've got this beautiful looking clean-cut white guy and it's like he's coming in and he's like the hero and he's it's the people's vote and the independents have shown the way and the tea party is which by the way i think would be horrible if the tea party really endorsed this guy I mean he could be fast tracking right up to the presidency because he is a republican uh... well it's always a possibility because you know they're gonna I believe that this

1:15:24 I think that Sarah is still, Sarah Palin is still the... But we need to fight, of course we need the beautiful man and the beautiful woman to fight it out with each other. It's theater, John. It is complete theater. We know the Democrats are running everything. I think we'd find a real politician that actually had something on the ball. I'm kind of annoyed by another meme that I keep hearing and I've heard it a number of times. It mostly comes out of Fox, which of course is a what we believe is a Democrat-run organization, so it would be disinformation. These memes would be created for the purposes of screwing things up. And the meme is, well, you know, I wish you could remember who was saying this, but it was somebody and they were dead serious. We need a, you know, what we really need as a president is a common person.

1:16:08 Just a guy off the street somebody who drives a pickup truck. Yeah, right someone who just represents every man Someone's not you know some over-educated Hoyt Floyd and guy who can speak 40 languages And I'm thinking if you take a look at the founding fathers, especially the the Tea Party people should particularly re-examine this because the founding fathers these guys if you start looking at their bios and They're all geniuses. They were extremely intelligent. They were well read. They were well traveled. They weren't like George Bush who had never before he became president even left the United States except perhaps to cross over to Mexico to drink. To go get some tequila. He was never anywhere and Sarah Palin's never been anywhere. She's pretty much of a local girl that just has never seen anything. So you get no confluence of ideas. You're just kind of basically, you're just, you know,

CHAPTER 19 / 26 Discussion

Healthcare Bill, Insurance Stock Pump and Dump

The loss of the Democratic supermajority in the Senate is discussed in the context of healthcare reform. The hosts suggest the entire legislative process may have been a "pump and dump" scheme for health insurance stocks, which reached 52-week highs before the Massachusetts election. They also speculate that a potential Republican filibuster would be turned into a media reality show.

healthcare reform· insurance stocks· filibuster· public option· etf

1:17:01 local yokel and they want that to be the president you don't want that to be the president you want somebody that's smarter than you to be the president not somebody dumber than you to be the president I mean it makes no sense whatsoever but just the meme is out there and they keep pushing it so I had a thought about this so you had a pretty interesting theory about About the the health insurance stocks which of course were skyrocketing could this be the dump is this? Did it what happened have you been tracking it? There's your idea. So we go over the theory, which was that they were going to put they had to push this, this bill, this health care bill. The reason they push it through the Senate is and they actually ramrodded it through there because they had to get it finished and into committees to consolidate the two bills. And that's when they could slip in the public option back and then roll it back into the to the two houses to to to vote for.

1:18:00 This particular situation, that scenario that I described, which was some a month or two ago. Not even, not even, not even. A month ago. It was a month ago, but it was before the failure in Massachusetts. The entire scenario did rely, I believe, on having the supermajority because that's the only way you could prevent some sort of a screw-up. And they, the Democrats, with all their arrogance and sanctimonious style, honestly believed that this annoying woman, Coakley, who I believe lost not because of any political perspective, but because she was not well liked. She was a very, she didn't, she

1:18:37 made a lot of faux pas. She's misspelled the state's name. She was critical of one of the great... All stuff that is totally avoidable and trainable and I think she threw the match. I don't think so. I think she blew the match and I don't think she threw the match but that theory is valid. Thank you. But, I'm not seeing it, but it is valid. The point is Now they have a situation that they lose that one crappy vote seems to have set them back even though it really shouldn't because you can still pass whatever you want. But there's one little wild card here that I think we're gonna we may or may not see and I think it's going to be an attempt perhaps by the Republicans to actually filibuster.

1:19:25 Now we haven't had a good... Well of course, we've already... I mean we're flying the plane upside down. Here we come, we've got to plug in the USB stick because we've got the skeleton key. I mean it's drama, it's written... John, this is so obvious. They need to put something in the 10 o'clock slot which will be NBC Dateline on NBC owned by GE, Immelt in there with Obama. They're creating drama for the 10 o'clock slot. Now but here's the wild card that's not being paid. Nobody's paying any attention to including you In the internet age we have never seen a filibuster wait. We have mr. Smith goes to Washington Well besides seeing the with Brad Pitt come on. We got that on bit torrent so stop that's not true, but all right I'll tell you I've not seen a real filibuster on the internet during the internet era and

1:20:17 This is great entertainment. But it might not be. The possibility exists that this thing would be such a snore fest that it would just make the Republicans look like idiots, which is very easy to do. I disagree. I think it's a big gamble. I disagree. I guarantee you. If you give me access, I can make a reality show out of a filibuster. I can already see it. 10 o'clock tonight, the filibuster continues. Our formula is this. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. NBC must see TV tonight. The filibuster continues, continues. Possibly. It's possible if you get the right people in there. But what I'm seeing

1:21:08 thus far as I'm not seeing these I'm not seeing it I think we'll be coming live to it if you had a good producer doing this kind of stuff yeah we'd have a show and we can have then we can have a dramatizations of it we can have behind the scenes we can have the triage unit where these guys like passing out You'd have it, it'd be just like the Michael Jackson trial which became this huge carnival. Thank you. We didn't even see that much in the, we'll have sketches. We'll have composite sketches of what's going on, but it'll be live on C-SPAN. It'll be live on, well, screw C-SPAN. Anderson Cooper, Anderson Cooper Vanderbilt here for Anderson Vanderbilt 360. Yeah, while we're here, right behind this very door is where the filibuster continues. You probably saw some of the high drama tonight. Let's take a look at the videotape. I'm sorry, that was Warner Wolf. But, but, but,

1:22:05 I like what you're saying. I think we could come to that. You still haven't looked at the financials for these insurance companies for me. Oh, you wanted me to do that in real time? You do it just real quick. Just take a quick look. Don't you have your portfolio all set up? I was gonna put money on this. I was totally buying into your theory. I think the theory is still valid. But it's a pump and dump. So they pumped it up. It was the highest in 52 years, the stock prices of these companies, when they went in around... before you even... it was around the same time when you said this is the theory. You said, look, all these stocks are up, but everyone's short, especially all of these senators and congressmen who do on average 12% better with their stock portfolios. They always leave government rich. It used to be they just go back to their tractor, their farming job. And by the way, the men who wrote the Constitution were farmers and blacksmiths and kind of crazy dope smoking dudes.

1:23:07 They were genius, but not because they were so educated. They weren't a bunch of lawyers. And so your theory was that they're going to pull the public option, but maybe we pull the whole thing all together, really dump it. So these stocks must have tanked. They must be tanking on this news. Why would they be tanking? Oh, you mean because people are worried? Yeah, because the meme is out there that, wait a minute, they're already talking about the whole thing not passing at all. Yeah, I know, but that wouldn't, yeah, but see that wouldn't tank the stock. It would tank the pump and dump deal. Well, so how's it doing? Well, the stocks are, they're not at their highs. I'm looking at various stocks here. I need to find one of the... Anderson Coupe Turd. One of the... Thanks, Chat Room.

1:23:57 Anderson Cooper here in the hallowed halls of the Capitol. I'm Anderson Cooper with where tonight we continue. Here's Anderson. This might work. I'm looking for some kind of an index that would have trade trade most. So, OK, well, here's one of these ETFs. This thing hit the rock bottom about twenty five bucks and it's and it's moved up to it's there's no evidence. It's everything still moving up. One of our producers sent a money-making idea to us and he said we should put together an ETF.

1:24:33 on the senator's stock portfolios. He says, you know, you can probably get that information, it must be public somewhere, and you just put an ETF together and track it and you'll win. That's not a bad idea. I'll talk to Horowitz about it. He said you should do it before Goldman Sachs does. What would he call it? The Senate ETF? Yeah, something like that. You have to have a really jazzy name for it. Well, you know, we got to have a joke name. so that we all know. We got to joke now, everyone's in on the gag. But we'd all make lots of money, it would be great. So democracy, by the way, John, as we're kind of on the government, democracy in the United States is officially over as of this morning.

CHAPTER 20 / 26 Discussion

Citizens United, Supreme Court Corporate Speech Ruling

The US Supreme Court issued a landmark 5-4 ruling in Citizens United v. FEC, overturning restrictions on corporate and union spending for political campaign ads. The hosts argue this decision effectively ends American democracy by allowing corporations like Monsanto to flood the airwaves with repetitious advertising. Justice Sonia Sotomayor's dissent is noted.

supreme court· citizens united· corporate personhood· campaign finance· ads

1:25:14 As the Supreme Court came down with a very interesting decision, you were probably based in your meat or printing out your notes. No, I actually have it on my printout. You want to talk about this? Because this is a very important vote, 5-4 vote, and I'm not quite sure who voted how. But in the Supreme Court, the highest court in the land, overturned a 20-year ruling that says corporations are prohibited from using money from their general treasuries to pay for campaign ads. This of course opens the door for labor unions to participate more freely in campaigns and basically indoctrinate people. Because we choose our presidents and our representatives in the United States the same way we choose our peanut butter, by repetitious advertising on television. Pretty much. So it seems like, this kind of surprised me that Sonia Sotomayor was against it.

1:26:18 She was against what? She was against this ruling, but she voted against this taking place. And I thought for sure she'd be on board. This ruling assumes, it doesn't surprise me because this ruling assumes that the media has twisted it to give it to the labor unions. Oh, the labor unions, they're going to do something, you know. I don't know why, because the fact that, which is to scare I don't know who, because the fact of the matter is this ruling is designed to give corporations an easier street, an easier route into pumping tons of money, you know, like Monsanto, for example. You're just too fast on the draw for me, John.

1:26:59 would be one of the companies that would be very much into this sort of thing. Now, Sotomayor may actually be honest about the fact that this is a bad thing. The other guys are, you know, I don't know what they're thinking. I mean, we should have, I think that old law that corporations can't donate a nickel to anybody is more apt. Which is what it was, but now it's over. That's gone. No, they could still donate through various. Well, yeah, they force all their employees and all that. And there's a million ways. There's also these these. But now you can just you don't have to hide it. You know, it's like, boom, you know, here's a check. Go for it. Yeah, I think if I was them, I'd be hiding it anyway.

1:27:42 So, actually we never got back to Steve Brown. I couldn't find, because he raised a lot of money. Where did he get his money from? That's the first thing I want to know. And I can't find it anywhere. I guess that reporting takes place much later. It doesn't matter. Yeah, when it doesn't matter. I'd like to know. I'm guessing he got his money from health. That would be my bet. Archer Daniels Midland, Monsanto and healthcare industry. Healthcare industry is where he got his money. But you know what, Coakley probably got her money from the same guys. Of course. Plus the SEIU.

CHAPTER 21 / 26 Discussion

World Health Organization, Global Tax Proposals

The World Health Organization (WHO) released a report proposing new global taxes to fund health research and technology transfers. Proposals include a 10% tax on the arms trade, a financial transaction tax for online bill payments, and a "digital tax" based on internet bandwidth usage. The hosts criticize the WHO's leadership and its handling of the H1N1 pandemic levels.

who· global tax· bandwidth tax· arms trade· pandemic

1:28:26 Just, I hesitate to do it but I kind of have to. This makes up for my... No, I'll move away from it. It just starts with swine flu. First of all, I'd like to say that Gitmo Nation, the Netherlands, remember the guy who was pushing the vaccine in the Netherlands? We have that video clip of him popping open a cognac or champagne when they find out that the first person had H1N1 in the Netherlands like yay, you know now we can distribute the vaccine. So they're investigating him for having being funded by pharmaceutical companies as he was the advisor to the government. But now the World Health Organization

1:29:15 has released a report from their expert working group and of course the WHO, you know, they implemented the level 6 pandemic. They changed the rules on it a couple months before all this stuff hit and of course we've had about 40% of the mortality rate of swine flu that we have of regular flu. On this wave, of course another wave could come. But now they're saying, well you know, We've got to find a financial mechanism for funding the World Health Organization's mandate of transferring health technologies to the developing world. And they came up with the following ideas. An arms trade tax, which would be a 10% tax on the weapons trade. Okay, well. A financial transaction tax.

1:30:05 which would be levied on paying bills online. So if you pay your bill, they're going to tax you over that. That was kind of interesting, but my most favorite was a digital tax, yielding billions of US dollars from a broad base of users by taxing the amount of bandwidth you use. I've got to say... Where did you read this? I've got the report right here. It's from... I've got, it's a PDF even. From the... Well that doesn't mean anything. Okay, I'll send you the, I'll send you a link to a site where I got it from. Hold on a second. The link's right there and you can take a look about the second paragraph. There's the PDF to the report. It looks like an official report. And it sounds like them. I mean, come on, these guys aren't hiding anything. We know that.

1:31:00 And if you go to page 9, John, there's the financing proposals. Having considered a wide range of options, the working group put forward the following fundraising proposals based on the likelihood they can generate new funds for health research and development in a sustainable way. This who needs to be dismantled? Yeah, totally. I mean, that woman that runs it is, is it? I, she seems like a mo. Yeah, yeah. She's frightening. It's frightening. She reminds me of Miss Swan that used to be the character on the Mad TV show. I never really watched that show. No, there's this one character that Alex Borstein, I think's her last name, did. And so of course, you know, typically I would have said of the Massachusetts victory, I would have said, oh well, you know, they used the the D-Bold machines which have been proven to be hackable.

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Universal Voter Legislation, Education Policy Failures

New "Universal Voter" legislation aims to automatically register citizens to vote using various government and commercial lists, which the hosts argue will facilitate voter fraud. They also critique President Obama for failing to prioritize education reform despite his campaign promises, suggesting the administration prefers an uneducated electorate that is easier to manipulate.

voter registration· barack obama· education· voter fraud· paul weyrich

1:32:05 So, and again it was a part of the big push to get some new 10 o'clock drama on NBC. The whole idea is to create some kind of reality show with the filibuster. I'm pretty sure they rigged the machines. And they've got another little trick up their sleeves, which is the legislation, which is coming up, and it's probably being hidden by Hope for Haiti now. Universal voter legislation. Oh yeah. Which is very interesting because the way universal voter legislation works is every single list the state has

1:32:46 So you know it used to be really hard to get people to register to vote. So we've come up with this brilliant idea. We'll just register you automatically. No matter what list we've got from you, if we have a telemarketing phone list, anything we've got, we're automatically registering you to vote. And of course what you'll see there is all of these people, most of them dead, will wind up voting. Because you know it's easy to implement that into the D.Va machines. Now here's the, this comes from a meme that the left has been passing around and I pulled it off the Thom Hartmann show which apparently is a speech given to a Christian. Is that from Thom Hartmann and the Canadian in the morning?

1:33:27 This was pulled from apparently a speech that somebody named Paul, I'm not sure this is Paul Weyrich, I guess it was a Republican strategist who was given to a mega church about 15 years ago. If you play this, this is what is triggering, because this meme has been going on for a while and the Democrats have concluded that they have to implement this other process. Play this clip. I'm sorry, which one is it? Paul Weyrich. Oh, got it. Brilliant. So, um, brilliant.

1:34:25 there is a, of course, if you, this is somewhat out of context because if you're running a campaign or you're running for office, you obviously don't want everybody to vote. You want only people that will vote for you to vote. Of course. So that's the logic. I mean, that's really the underlying logic, which makes nothing but sense. But this is seen as some sort of, the commentary here is interesting because it reflects on a number of issues that are going on. The first one is, is that, well let's just get everybody to vote because apparently the Republicans, when everybody votes, they tend to vote a little bit toward the Democratic side.

1:35:05 especially if they're dead. It does help if you were deceased. D for Democrat, D for deceased. And once you get universal voter registration, you know, you're just basically the wide open for voter fraud, which is another reason that this guy was discussing this. Now there is an underlying belief amongst the liberals in particular that, and because Clinton has said this, I remember when he came on the the uh... but was letterman or leno at the time and uh... he said that we're gonna win this time he says it turns out that the people are voting in this particular round of elections are highly educated and then clinton made this comment and as you know if somebody's highly educated or less likely to vote democratic does the democrats

1:35:52 earnestly believe that they're superior that they're superior they have a superiority complex that's absolutely true but what's wrong with this picture is the fact that and I think the big botch of the Obama administration which people have to take into account is that he had three things he kept hounding on it was education health and and energy. And the first thing he actually went after was energy with cap and trade and global warming and even though it didn't go very far because of one thing or another, the next thing he did almost kind of in parallel was this health care reform. What has he done about education? Because the real problems of this country are the... How about money for college? Wasn't that a big promise? There's a bunch of stuff but if he had gone after education initially... You can take that to the bank.

1:36:41 If he had gone after education initially instead of these other two things and put that in place, if the Democrats are correct in their belief that once you're, if you're smarter and go to college, you're going to vote Democratic. You'd want more people to be smart and go to college. You'd want more people to be smarter than go to college. The opposite is true, John. We all know that they want us to be dumb. This is why homeschooling is being outlawed. Exactly. They want us to be dumb and the fact that Obama's done nothing and by the way if he would have been very easily successful doing education, who's going to vote against half this stuff? You can't do it. You get voted out. And it wouldn't be as horrible a problem for him as he's created for himself because he's got these other things which are impossible to conquer but education's not. And he does nothing about education. It's what he should have started with. So obviously he didn't really have any, he didn't want education. He wants to screw the public.

1:37:32 John C. DuBois I figure if I get worked up like that then you'll play that clip. Absolutely. A quick little note from one of our producers through the email from Michelle Malkin's website responding to this Ron Paul CIA coup of the army. essential piece, a special quote from the piece. He is essentially, here it comes John, he is essentially a conspiracy theorist whose presence in Congress is much more problematic than beneficial for conservatives and the GOP with whom he's nominally associated. You know, they're not gonna kill him with two to the head, they're just gonna smear him.

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Michelle Malkin, Ron Paul Smear Campaign

Conservative commentator Michelle Malkin is criticized for smearing Ron Paul as a "conspiracy theorist" following his comments about the CIA. The hosts suggest Malkin's rhetoric is part of a "COINTELPRO" effort to marginalize Paul and prevent his ideas from gaining traction within the Republican Party or mainstream media.

michelle malkin· ron paul· cointelpro· smear campaign· gop

1:36:41 If he had gone after education initially instead of these other two things and put that in place, if the Democrats are correct in their belief that once you're, if you're smarter and go to college, you're going to vote Democratic. You'd want more people to be smart and go to college. You'd want more people to be smarter than go to college. The opposite is true, John. We all know that they want us to be dumb. This is why homeschooling is being outlawed. Exactly. They want us to be dumb and the fact that Obama's done nothing and by the way if he would have been very easily successful doing education, who's going to vote against half this stuff? You can't do it. You get voted out. And it wouldn't be as horrible a problem for him as he's created for himself because he's got these other things which are impossible to conquer but education's not. And he does nothing about education. It's what he should have started with. So obviously he didn't really have any, he didn't want education. He wants to screw the public.

1:37:32 John C. DuBois I figure if I get worked up like that then you'll play that clip. Absolutely. A quick little note from one of our producers through the email from Michelle Malkin's website responding to this Ron Paul CIA coup of the army. essential piece, a special quote from the piece. He is essentially, here it comes John, he is essentially a conspiracy theorist whose presence in Congress is much more problematic than beneficial for conservatives and the GOP with whom he's nominally associated. You know, they're not gonna kill him with two to the head, they're just gonna smear him.

1:38:16 They're gonna completely smear him and... Oh no, they can't. He's already been smeared. No, no, no, but Fox keeps pulling him in for quotes and they're gonna stop. Now, they're gonna take... Maybe it's this quote that is going to... This is the Howard Dean quote. This is the Howard Dean quote for Ron Paul. You mark my words. They're going to marginalize him completely. That was Howard Dean saying that? No, no, no, no, that was Michelle Malkin saying that. But you remember Howard Dean? He had the Dean scream that blew his whole chance for ever becoming president? So Michelle Malkin? Yes, Michelle Malkin. Yes. Really? Yeah, because she's run by the Democrats, John. Come on. Come on, you know this. She is COINTELPRO if you've ever seen it. And I know you like her. That is a giveaway. That's a dead giveaway. That is COINTELPRO, definitely. Dead giveaway. Yeah, she should have just shut up about that.

1:39:12 Yep, so we're on to Michelle Malkin now. Yeah, there's only gonna be two people left. There's nobody left. I mean, Glenn Beck is just a comedian. Yeah, just us. Just you and me talking on the Skypes, my friend. Only twice a week because we can't afford to quit our lousy day jobs to do it more often. That'll be it. I don't see any big funding coming in from the CIA. If they were smart, I mean how does COINTELPRO work? Why wouldn't they fund us? I don't get it. It makes no sense. It's totally baffling. It is a mystery. You know what it is? They're not listening. They don't care. Internet?

CHAPTER 24 / 26 Discussion

Golden Globes, NBC Universal Award Bias

The 67th Golden Globe Awards are discussed, with a focus on host Ricky Gervais and his jokes at the expense of NBC. The hosts observe that winners from NBC Universal properties were allowed to speak longer than those from other networks. They also note the heavy product placement for Stella Artois during the broadcast.

golden globes· ricky gervais· nbc universal· mad men· advertising

1:39:49 If we were on real radio that then we'd be rolling in the dough So we'd have blue globes. Come on Crap, really? I have something I have to say. Okay, Golden Globes. I saw the Golden Globes you watch Wait a minute. Listen, I saw part of them You saw the entire show and you're complaining to me may I point out that I live with an actor so it's essential show business Homework for her, but I will say we have a lot of fun Just sitting there like the two old dudes from the Muppets and making fun of everybody so it was quite enjoyable But I watched the whole thing. I'm kind of a fan of Ricky Gervais And I I personally there was a lot of very English oriented British humor, and I thought it was very funny And I think a lot of it was lost on

1:40:45 On some of the American audience like, ooh, I can't believe he said that. Ooh, he cracking some jokes about Haiti and stuff. And that's the deprecating kind of defacing humor that the Brits are known for that I actually like very much. I love the fact that he drank a beer on TV and it was a real beer. And of course, right after that, the first commercial was Stella Artois, one of the biggest sponsors of the show. So that was just complete placement. Stella by the way probably no longer being delivered thanks to the horrible crisis in the beer sector. Which is a huge crisis. Let me mark that one. That's a good one John. That's a good one. Okay so the Mad Men show

1:41:36 wins the best drama on TV and as they all come up and the dude has a beard sorry the the what's his name oh yeah the main guy's got a beard yeah he's got a beard yeah it looks kind of good on him yeah he looks fine but anyway he's kind of a goofball I've seen him on one one of the talk shows he's not he's He's a better actor than he is a personality. Anyway, so he, uh, the producer comes out and he immediately sees them winding up. He says, well, I'm glad that he's make some comics because they're telling me to wind up already. He hasn't even said anything. He didn't say one. Well, here was the problem. So what they did wrong with this show, and I noticed it from the first award, they didn't have a path

1:42:19 for the winners to get on stage. Everyone's like, oh do I go left, do I go right? Well there was that too. Yeah it was horrible. But these guys got on stage real quick because they were right off on the site so they got right on stage and just as he got on stage they're telling him to rap it. And so I started watching this thing, why are they making these poor schlubs rap when they won the best of and they should be able to ramble on as long as they want to. No, no because we had Leo and Marty and Bobby coming on. No, that's not the reason I was timing this. The reason was unless it was a show done by NBC or a movie by NBC Universal, they rushed him off the stage. You are so right. There was one NBC Universal movie they came out and they talked for hours. I give you that. You are so right. Bingo.

1:43:11 And there were a couple of good anti-NBC jokes like saying to other networks, like, thank you for believing in 10 o'clock primetime drama. Oops, slam. I love Gervais. He had a couple of good NBC zingers. And by the way, the executives have no humor when it comes to that. Oh, no. They do not like it. They do not like it. Ricky Gervais, they already were slamming him the next day. Ratings up, Gervais down. He's out. He'll never, he'll, he will never work for NBC again. Well, I don't think he works for, uh... No, he does work for... You're right, he does. Right, he works for NBC. Yeah. Where's the office? That's why he got that job. Yeah, exactly. Well, he's in for a big surprise. But that's okay, CBS would love to have him. And by the way, talking about executives with no sense of humor, the clip we're gonna play after we wrap the show, which is a Letterman clip, discusses this exact issue. Really?

CHAPTER 25 / 26 Discussion

Charles Krauthammer, Israel and Iran Conflict Scenarios

Charles Krauthammer spoke at the Heritage Foundation, predicting that Israel will eventually launch a preemptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. Krauthammer outlined a "grave" scenario involving oil price spikes and regional war. Adam Curry counters this with a theory that a "natural disaster" (induced earthquake) will occur in Iran, allowing the US and Israel to occupy the country under the guise of relief.

charles krauthammer· israel· iran· nuclear weapons· heritage foundation

1:44:05 This is a side, I mean we're in simpatico here. Ah, hey, hey, we're totally in simpatico. So do you want to play a couple more of your clips before we leave? Because you've got, um... I only have one. No, you have two. You've got Nukes Iran Israel. Oh, oh, uh. Yeah, hey, John, bummer. Sounds like a bummer clip. The Nukes Iran Israel clip is an extreme bummer. Let's do it, come on. Come on, do it, do it, do it. Let me set it up. This is the most depressing clip I collected and I don't know if we can even talk about it. We can just play it and then we can just say, gee, give some money to no agenda show. This is at the Heritage Foundation. Oh, yes. Charles Krauthammer answering a question after he gave this long speech, which was mostly a point by point critique of Obama. He doesn't care much for apparently.

1:44:57 But somebody asked the question about what is the scenario with Iran, Israel, and Krauthammer believes that it's already set in stone and this is what's going to happen and he explains it and you walk away from that one going, oh great, sell short. Europe and the Obama administration have more or less accepted a nuclear armed Iran. Do you suspect that Israel will in fact attack and if they do, how do you foresee the consequences of all of that happening? I think in the end Israel will. And the consequences will be very, very grave. The only question I think for the Israelis now is a technical one. Can this be done? Do they have enough intelligence? Is the stuff that's critical accessible by air attack or not?

1:45:54 Do they have the resources, the refueling capacity to do major damage that would set them back a few years? The Israelis are not imagining they're going to get a solution, but it gives them time. And when you're a small country and you have a history, the history that the Jews have, even a few years is important, even if you have to, if you only have a temporary respite. But what will happen is predictable. Iranians will try to strike back, probably scholarships in the Persian Gulf too.

1:46:33 to shut down the oil trade, double the price of oil around the world, set off a worldwide recession, unleash Hezbollah, which probably has about 40,000 rockets to attack Israel. Hamas would do the same from the south, so involve Israel in two very, very hot wars immediately. It will be very dangerous and difficult. for the Israelis, it's a very hard choice to make. Nonetheless, I find it almost impossible to believe that they will accept 6 million Jews living under the threat of nuclear annihilation. Wow, by the way, what a meme there, 6 million Jews, which is the exact number that is talked about as the Holocaust number. Wow. Wow! ...particularly given the history of Jewish people, and I think that will trump all other considerations. They can deal with the other problems, I think they think.

1:47:35 Which are at a conventional level? They have dealt with those in the past but a nuclear country pledged openly to the eradication of Israel and The killing of all its inhabitants Is a threat that I don't think the Israelis will live with all right. We have time all right Do you want my do you want my assessment of this? Go or do you want to go first? I don't have any assessment. Okay, well it's very simple because I have the script right here. This will not take place. There will be a massive earthquake in Iran. The United States and Israel by the way will come to Iran's aid and we will occupy the country silently. Haiti is just a little test run how we can do it. It's in the script right here. Exterior earthquake and we see interior Ahmadinejad running for cover into doorway. Let me just turn it over here.

1:48:32 George Clooney by the way is slated for this production. And it's not going to happen. There will be a natural disaster. It may not be an earthquake, although it's most logical. But there will be a natural disaster of epic proportions and the United States and Israel will come to Iran's aid and take over the country. Haiti just being a... it's like off-Broadway. Haiti is just the off-Broadway version of the next playbill. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I like it. Yeah, no you mark my words and I have to say we have been right many many times on this very program. It would actually be a positive scenario compared to the one that we had. Yeah, I don't like that. That was a bummer. And people don't like that kind of ending. That's why it's not going to happen. That's why we have betterment coming up. Yeah, but thank you. But it's also not going to happen that way. Well let's hope so.

1:49:27 Yeah, let's hope there's an earthquake of epic proportions. Yeah, that's a nice one John great Saving lives here on no agenda. We do appreciate your your help. We really do need it Go to noagendashow.com, go to dvorak.org slash NA or channeldvorak.com slash NA and donate. We have the lucky number 30 donation there, which a lot of people are signing up for. And if you get 10 friends to sign up, it will bring you good fortune and you'll get laid with hookers and blow forever. And yeah, so that Letterman clip is coming up. Coming to you from a ground-trembling Gateway Nation West Crackpot Command Center in San Francisco, California in the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And it's in the morning somewhere all the time and I'm here in Northern Silicon Valley. Where are they rain since the commutes over now the rain is slowing down. I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Sunday after

CHAPTER 26 / 26 Discussion

David Letterman, NBC Late Night War Commentary

In a closing segment, David Letterman comments on the late-night television conflict between Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien at NBC. Letterman responds to NBC executive Dick Ebersol, who called the critics of Leno "chicken-hearted and gutless." Letterman admits to being gutless but maintains that he mocks Leno simply because he enjoys it.

david letterman· jay leno· conan o'brien· nbc· dick ebersol

1:50:23 Hope for Haiti now Saturday night join us for the early morning service right here on no agenda. Thank you very much I don't know if you're aware exactly of what's going on at NBC, but we talked about it a little bit and And it's it's Jay. Yes It's Conan and it's me and every now and then Jimmy Kimmel comes in and causes some trouble which is great. Yeah Just fantastic. So, uh, and nobody knows what to do. Conan would like to stay. They said, no, you should go. And he said, no, I want to stay. And so now they get to throw him out. But to throw him out, he gets $30 million. And Jay, of course, all Jay keeps saying is, you know, I think there's room for everybody. I think there's room for everybody.

1:51:21 And so now all of a sudden comes this outpouring of anger directed at Jay, who is America's best friend. He's the guy next door when you need to borrow a wrench to fix your lawnmower or when you need your lawnmower fixed, Jay will come over and he's got his blue jeans on and he's got his blue jean shirt. that thing and he goes, okay, rolls up his sleeve and he goes to work. Or let's just say you're driving from Omaha to St. Louis and your car breaks down. Right there by the side of the road is Jay to change your tire. It's been documented hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times. He's like AAA for the United States. For the home viewer, Jay is AAA. He's there. He's Johnny on the spot. He'll take care of you.

1:52:07 You know I forgot what I was going to say. Jay, the whole thing. There's Jay, there's Conan, and there's you. So now all of a sudden this outpouring of people are upset and leave Conan alone and you had your variety show at 10, leave Conan, give Conan his show at 1130, don't be such a bully, go somewhere else, get your own show, get your own show, and now people are jumping on Jay. It's unprecedented, I've never seen anything and I keep saying to people, well what What has he done wrong? He's just kind of doing what the network tells him to do. Yeah, no, they say Jay go to 10 So they say they say Jay all right Jay the 10 o'clock didn't work come back to 1130 And now

1:53:02 And now Conan will be free to go, plus he's got $30 million. So it's hard to feel bad for anybody, you know, because everybody makes out in this deal. And then I pick up the New York Times on, when is this? This was, I guess, Friday morning, the 15th, Friday, January the 15th, 2010. Everybody is getting into the story. Here's the headline. Can you see it right there? executive leaps to Leno's defense. So I thought, well really, now they got NBC executives defending Jay, who heretofore, why is he needed defending? He hasn't, what has he done? He's done nothing. So listen to this. So it's a guy who runs NBC Sports named Dick Ebersole. Now I've known Dick Ebersole, you've known Dick Ebersole. For years, yeah. When we worked at NBC, I've known Dick Ebersole since the late 70s. Yeah. And he was a guy and he was always a guy and he still is a guy.

1:53:55 And he came into NBC and he's the one that said, get the Olympics, get the Olympics, get the Olympics. And it's been a tremendous success. And now they got the Winter Olympics coming up pretty soon in a couple of weeks. So now all of a sudden, Dick Ebersole feels he's got to get in there and help Big Jaw. So I think, look. What is this? How did this happen? You know, it's like you're wrestling around in the backyard and somebody's mom comes out. Okay, come on boys, break it up. Break it up, let's go. Don't do this. Leave Timmy alone. Come on, get off him.

1:54:31 It's completely unnecessary. And plus, Dick Ebersole has got things on his mind. I mean, the Olympics kick off up there in Vancouver, up there in Whistler. I mean, he really, right now, he should be up there putting the finishing touches on the Bodie Miller story. He should be up there picking out sweaters for Bob Costas. He doesn't have time for this. Bob, turn around. Let me see the one with the reindeer. All right, turn around. All right, now try the plaid one, Bob. All right, let's see what that looks like on camera. What about a scarf to go with that, Bob? Kind of a thing like that when you're out there with the bobsled boys, a thing like that. Why don't you look into that? Get yourself a scarf. Gloves. Get him some gloves. So here's what Ebersole says. Out of the blue, and I'm thinking, oh, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick.

1:55:32 The verbal barbs in this late-night war got louder Thursday as a top NBC executive struck back against on-air attacks on the network's once and future Tonight Show host Jay Leno. Now this is what he said. Out of nowhere, he didn't need to talk about this. He really doesn't. You know, leave us alone, we're having fun. referring to the pointed jokes made this week by Mr. O'Brien and David Letterman of CBS, Mr. Ebersole said it was chicken-hearted and gutless to blame guys you couldn't beat in the ratings. Chicken-hearted and gutless. That's what he said. He's calling me and Conan O'Brien chicken-hearted and gutless. I can't speak for Conan O'Brien.

1:56:28 For the sake of the discussion, yes, I'm chicken-hearted and yes, I'm gutless. But these two characteristics have nothing to do with the current situation. I'm telling jokes and making fun of Jay Leno over and over and over relentlessly, mercilessly, simply for one reason, and that is, I'm really enjoying it. It's... I don't know. It's just fun.

1:57:07 That's all I got. We'll be right back with tonight's top ten list and Kristen Bell everybody.