Heavy Tail

00:00 I'm washed up! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday June 9th 2024 this year award winning Gimbal Nation Media assassination episode 1667 This is no agenda Defying climate despair and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6 In the morning everybody I am Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where we all agree that Eric Schon on Fox is annoying I'm John C. Dvorak Eric who? Yeah, he's been there 25 years. Eric Shawn? Yeah I've never even heard of this guy yeah he shows up a lot more than you used to but he's been there forever He is the Trump hitman and if you see a picture of him he looks like an IRS agent who never got promoted

00:57 I, uh... Honestly? I don't have cable anymore. Oh! Yeah that kind of ruins it doesn't it? So you don't get Fox? Well I have YouTube TV so I guess I could watch it on the- Well YouTube TV has Fox. I know but I only have that for a backup in case there's something I really need to watch now ever since Tucker left the fox became uninteresting I think that's when it all went downhill and they just became, you know lame. They were already kind of lame but isn't that all that we ever watched? What do you watch Fox & Friends in the morning? No if i watch fox i watch Gutfeld number one Oh yeah of course you do yeah that's good And then I might watch The Five

01:49 Maybe I think also ever since Jesse waters took over like the prime time spot. It's like just done It's like he's goofy is goofy He's goofy, you know at least if Tucker at least we could watch and say let's see if he has what we had three days ago Yeah A month ago yeah no he did get high started to catch up it started become like Sunday And then Monday or today catching up they had to get rid of him exactly he got too close to the truth exactly right As we predicted, as we predicted on Thursday. The heat dome is here! Coast to coast tonight scorching triple digit temperatures from California to Florida across the West 15 million people under a heat dome all

02:36 this as Noah says carbon dioxide is accumulating faster than ever in the atmosphere. Notice that has nothing to do with the heat dome but noah just says that on you know real just associated where'd you get this report why would he throw carbon dioxide's got nothing to do with this mbc baby side is accumulating faster Listen, all this as Noah says... Under a heat dome. All this as Noah says carbon dioxide is accumulating faster than ever in the atmosphere acting like a blanket over the earth and warming the planet. New data released by the EU finds globally that last 12 months have each been the hottest ever on record. We need to take extreme heat very seriously

03:15 People are dying. It's cold here, stop the presses! It's cold and right now the temperatures well cold kind of cold but it's 56 or so and the heat dome was here for two days a fog rolled in It's been colder this year than it was last year, another record-breaking cold for the Bay Area. Who are we kidding? I love how riled up you get over this! That's because they lie! No they're not lying! They're saying there is a heat dome and then she says all of this as Noah says that there is more carbon dioxide has nothing to do with the heat dome but THEN she brings in the blanket The blanket is killing people But thats NBC

03:59 How about the elitist voices from NPR? The heat dome is a big pocket of high pressure that locks in heat. Okay, what is the connection between climate change generally and this specific heat event? Didn't you want to know this? Weren't you interested? There's never been a high-pressure system in the history of mankind until climate change. No, 1936 we had a very big... No way! Yes it was one of the most severe heat waves that took place in the middle of The Great Depression and The Dust Bowl 1936. 1936 when you didn't have any climate change back then or maybe we did I don't know but it was the same temperature but now this high-pressure system

04:44 Which, as far as I can tell has nothing to do with carbon dioxide. Has everything to do with carbon dioxide or chloriding to NPR. They're intimately connected, Steve. Well they intimately collect...they're making love out there on the beach Generally and this specific heat event? They are intimately connected Steve You know humans burn oil and gas and coal it releases carbon dioxide and other planets Are we gonna get through anything today Or are you just in one of those moods? No I'm not going to play these sorts of clips This is good stuff man This is why we're here, so people can feel good about knowing that they're being bullcrapped. Well it releases carbon dioxide and other planet warming gases those gases they accumulate in the atmosphere over the course of decades and all that excess gas traps heat and that directly leads to higher temperatures worldwide Directly It helps drive these extreme heat events where the temperature gets Even she's kind of waffling around like okay so carbon dioxide according to her heats up

05:45 the air, but has nothing to do with the heat dome. It directly leads to higher temperatures worldwide it helps drive these extreme heat events where the temperature gets really high and stays really high like what we're seeing. And in fact, scientists can say that the most intense heat waves that are happening right now would be literally impossible without human-caused climate change. Literally impossible! Literally? Really? That does include the dust bowl... Yeah, literally impossible without it. scorched the earth and resulted in everyone from Oklahoma moving to California in the 30s. Not Texas, Lynn Terrence! Causing part of a worldwide depression... Yeah nothing like that No no no nothing like that literally impossible It's a really close connection Our news here is it's a really close connection BULL LADY That carbon dioxide levels are hitting a record Many people who follow this are aware that The United States has been cutting its greenhouse gas emissions How does that work?

06:43 Yeah. What? States has been cutting its greenhouse gas emissions. Yeah, yeah that did happen. But the decrease was quite small this was last year and two years before that the US emissions actually increased each year so what bigger picture here is that you know one the u.s Decrease in emissions is not that big and to a lot of other countries are not cutting their emissions So altogether it's definitely not enough on its own to reverse this trend of co2 accumulation There is the question of the rest of the world which is the majority of the world's people and the majority of the economic activity No, no. We've got to kill the cows you got to eat bugs or is there something else we can do Rebecca Herscher? So how is the carbon dioxide level measured well scientists continuously measure co2 in the atmosphere and every single year at the peak How how he said how? Co2 amount sets a new record because humans keep adding more CO 2 faster than it can break down This has been happening since scientists started measurements in 1958

07:46 And because scientists are able to use other methods as well to estimate how much CO2 was... Oh, it's an estimation. She didn't answer the question! She said how do they do it? Well they got other methods they estimate models perhaps and because scientists are able to use other methods as well to estimate how much CO2 was in the air I don't know. It says other than what? It's NPR, man! Estimate how much CO2 was in the atmosphere going back millennia we can actually say with confidence that there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now then there has been millions of years Millions! Millions! I don't think so

08:25 Millions of years! The dinosaurs had, what? 10 times as much carbon dioxide so they could actually survive. Millions! Well it wasn't for the dinosaurs' benefit, it was for plants you have that much carbon dioxide. Plants go nuts You need big giant plants for the dinosaur to eat Yes thats why yes giant Then there has been in... Even this guy is going millions? Millions of years In millions of years okay so how high is this number Well, the exact number is 426.9 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere that may not sound like a lot...parts per million but the earth is really really sensitive to change. Doesn't sound like a lot? 0.04% are you kidding me?! Yes! Of which uh..the US is what are we responsible 30 percent of that 0.4% I don't know

09:13 20%? But the Earth is really, really sensitive to changes in the atmosphere. A little bit of extra CO2 traps a lot of heat. What really sticks out is that this number is significantly higher than last year it was a really big jump between the atmosphere and is actually accelerating Rebecca, thanks for the update really appreciate it. Thanks so much really here's Rebecca her shit Massive bullcrap massive which you the problem with this that clip and everything else that you've been hearing is that with a clip I have oh This is the problem a which I find to be very distressing we haven't talked about this too much It does come up in the conversation yes But this is the clip about the

10:00 psychological effects, this is typical. The psychological effects of lying to the public about all this stuff in a negative way...this is like the climate affects on children." A child born today will live an entire life shaped by climate change but it But a new report in the journal The Lancet finds that children may not be getting due consideration in a country's climate adaptation policies. NPR's Alejandra Burunda has more. Most countries in the world now have written plans for how to deal with climate change, but when a team of researchers looked at 160 of them they found a notable gap

10:42 About a quarter didn't have any policy goals specifically aimed at helping and protecting children. And none had any plans to address the growing problem of climate-related anxiety amongst young people. Another recent analysis found that nearly 60% of kids surveyed worldwide were very or extremely worried about climate change The researchers suggest getting kids directly involved in climate policy decisions since it's their lives that will be most affected. Oh, yeah let the kids get involved Yeah this I think the climate change PR company has been working because time magazine or time calm I should say Also had quite the article they only they called it climate despair

11:26 Yes, that's what the kids are experiencing climate despair. How did they get this way of course? Yeah from the teachers who were signed by the other idiots that are ruining their lives So the so time It starts off with forget climate anxiety many people are in flat-out Climate despair hands up trolls if you're in climate despair let me see all the hands oh According to this article, two-thirds of Americans—65%—report being worried about global warming. Which of course we know every single poll puts it at the bottom. They're like how about the economy? That's a good point! All these polls do come out during the election periods and climate change is not up there

12:14 If the threat is existential, is there value in sorting out how you feel about it? The very first step is full validation says Leslie Davenport a climate psychology educator. Oh boy! And author of books including Emotional Resilience In The Era Of Climate Change A Clinician's Guide and she has seven handy tips As it says here, climate-aware therapists here share their most effective coping strategy from going from overwhelmed to empowered. Are you interested in hearing some tips on how to... Yes and no! What's the no part?

12:57 is that this is a terrible thing to be discussing, but I think you should at least roll out these fabulous tips and I'm sure it should be at the top of everyone's list of things to do. Okay first of all top of the list talk about it! Oh well that's what we're doing yes we're number one Yes climate change tends to get the religion and politics treatment people avoid talking about it No you don't. That's what I can tell! Here, here is a part of this tip is join a climate cafe. Hello? Is there... What?! Yeah join a climate cafe these are discussion... What the hell is a climate cafe? These these are discussion spaces

13:41 Both online and in person where people can talk freely about their fears and other feelings related to climate change. It's like sensitivity training! I think all i know is... An encounter group? This may be as popular as the internet cafes of the early 90s Get yourself a climate cafe or you could change the good grief network which is a peer support group that follows a 10-step approach Well, we've gone from 7 to 10. No no no this is... We're still number one! Number two is use your connections Use your connections because you know connection... Because connection's protection and it will save us from climate change? Is that what they said? So if you have connections you won't have climate change What are they talking about research suggests that the lonelier and more socially isolated someone feels the higher their levels of climate distress

14:33 Really? It seems to me if somebody's completely out of the loop they won't even know about this. You've got to find your people which is, of course, noagendameetups.com We're so on we've got number one and number two you could also join local land restoration efforts get involved with community gardening Why don't you just put a garden in your backyard? Oh wait, these are all apartment dwellers we're talking about who are all into this because they can't afford a house because they're sitting around fretting about climate change instead of doing some work. Number three analyze your carbon footprint This will help How's that gonna help Some people cope with climate distress by distancing themselves from the problem They ignore it hoping it will just go away

15:24 It's more effective to take the energy of all those emotions and redirect them into constructive action. You can use an online calculator... ...to track your carbon footprint! You'll feel better about yourself. Is that what it says? Yes, yes! What about cutting CO2 emissions by taking the train instead of an airplane?! Be honest with yourself Number three on the list, share your... Has anyone done a calculation of what train bus to build and operate in terms of carbon footprint compared to a plane? I just love doing these with you. You know, Gutfeld should be ashamed of himself he hasn't had you on the show yet. You'd be awesome! Number three, share your views this is no time for humility make sure everyone around you knows that you're going to combat climate change

16:16 If you're surrounded by people who... Wow! That's a good one. Wear the t-shirt if you're surrounded by people who don't appear to prioritize the environment as much as you do, lead by example rather than trying to change their minds grow fruits and vegetables share them with your neighbors that's a good idea we're on to the next point make it a family affair this is how you really get to the kids Research suggests that climate change is especially affecting young people's mental health. If your kids are coming to you with concerns, slap them upside the head and tell them to knock it off! Oh wait...that's not what it says. If your kids are coming to you with concerns listen and validate them then get imaginative about how your whole family can take action together Can you imagine this what you just described?

17:07 Actually somebody doing this what's slapping the kid worried sick cuz he just got out of school. He's worried sick He's fretting his was hand wringing he or she Hand-wringing crying perhaps about the climate and then you're gonna validate this yeah, oh yeah Oh This is what you do This is what you do get artsy is the next one on the list yes making art can help people regulate and work through their emotions You're doing patterned repetitive movements and getting into a flow state. Tell them to code, it's calming. Learn to code! That's right. It's calming. Get into the flow state of coding

17:51 You can use color, shapes and lines to express how you're feeling. Wow! Really? Yes final one on the list savor time outside yes spending time outside in green spaces will benefit your well-being love and grief are two sides of the same coin BS So there's some kind of PR movement. You should have saved that to the end of the show, it could've been our tip! No I got... It's my turn for the tip of the day so i got a tip of the day Oh I have a tip We can do both do tips this week Dueling Tips? No you said it was my turn to do the tip you made this quite quick No I said you had to start doing... Yes I didn't quite say that but its fine if you have a tip we'll hear it Alright well both do a tip at the end of the show it will be dueling tip of the day but only ONLY the tip

18:46 I like dueling tip of the day. All right, we'll do dueling and then we should do a vote off Okay sounds good speaking of traumatizing terrorizing your kids there is some actual good news Good news and this comes from course you're not gonna hear much about it they had a press conference And yeah well there was a little clip somewhere but that was about it the American College of Pediatrics came out With a press conference, this was a little bit like the... Who were the doctors during COVID who went on the steps of the Senate? Remember then they all had their lab coats on.

19:29 I'm trying to think of what they were called. Yeah, that a kind of good name is like doctors cute name. Yeah, doctors for doctors for real doctors. Yeah, we say we're real doctors actual doctors line was the front line the frontline doctors frontline frontline something something whatever this kinda similar They have a woman spokesperson. Everyone has their lab coats on, they've got emblems you know they look official they are official they've released a whole lot of survey data and here's what they had to say And we have serious concerns about the physical and mental health effects of the current protocols promoted for the care of children and adolescents in the United States who express discomfort with their biological sex

20:15 And I'm not going to go into detail But really, it was developed from the expertise of hundreds of doctors, researchers and other healthcare workers and leaders who for years have been sounding the alarm on harmful protocols that continue to be promoted by medical organizations in the United States. Despite recent revelations from leaked WPATH files and the recent release of final report from the CAST review these medical organizations have not changed course So we are calling on these medical organizations of the United States, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, The Endocrine Society, The Pediatric Endocrine Society, The American Medical Association, The American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry to follow this science and their European colleagues

21:07 and immediately stop the promotion of social affirmation, puberty blockers cross-sex hormones and surgeries for children and adolescents who experience distress over their biological sex. In our declaration we affirm that sex is a dimorphic innate trait defined in relation to an organism's biological role in reproduction male and female This genetic signature is present in every nucleated somatic cell in the body and it's not altered by drugs or surgical interventions. Consideration of these innate differences is critical to the practice of good medicine and to the development of sound policy for children and adults alike

21:50 Medical decision-making should be based upon an individual's biological sex. It should respect biological reality and the dignity of the person by compassionately addressing the whole person We are here defying the claims made by these medical organizations in the U.S., that those of us who are concerned are a minority, and that their protocols are consensus. They're not consensus and we're speaking in a loud unified voice enough! Enough! Amen! Amen to that.

22:45 the way I see it, with people like Kaiser Foundation and all these health organizations is that this is a moneymaker. It's a bonanza and so what if the kids are scarred for life or they commit suicide three years later? Who cares their money to be made from these processes is too much and then these people that are involved with this group here that you just played will all be rebuked. Are we trying to break us here At the same time, what I found a little maybe even more interesting is that the Covenant School Tennessee shooter Audrey Hale they have...they recovered a journal. The Tennessee Star reprinted pieces of it. Yeah before just to preface what you're going to say we had one of the police

23:40 Doing that investigation contact us and we played it or I discussed this red from his note. We discussed He had already seen the entire thing and it It was horrendous Well, the part that is interesting these are these so this is not the manifesto but this is Part of this child's journal And I'll just quote from the piece here. Later Hale wrote, Next to these remarks Hale illustrated the words everything hurts which she used repeatedly throughout the journal

24:20 While the source of Hale's purported discomfort is unclear, musculoskeletal pain is a possible side effect of medication that was prescribed to Hale by staff at the Vanderbilt University Medical Center. Of course, who knows what that was? But in addition to this pain the National Institutes of Health explains the side effects of that medication. The anti-anxiety drug buspirone include abnormal dreams outbursts of anger tremors and physical weakness. It was additionally prescribed escitalopram better known as Lexapro

24:58 And medical news today explains that using the depression drug with buciprone could quote increase the risk of the side effects, which is outbursts of anger etc. Stop putting kids on these drugs! Let's start with that. Oh that's no good It's costing us money. We got to bootstrap... Did you see the email from our, I asked him if i could read some of this from our producer who was in the testing industrial complex during COVID speaking of money? The bonanza that it was these it was a very long email on if you read it. I didn't see it he says the company I work for had the contracts to test about 225 000 students and staff on a weekly basis this with the Los Angeles United School District

25:46 Unified. Yeah, unified and the contracts to test half of the LAUSD for one school year was how much you think that was? $20 million. $750 million dollars I'm a little low just a tad another company had the contract to test the other half when it started we had 800 health care workers flown in living in hotel rooms in and around Los Angeles getting 87 per diem so each day you get 87 bucks to do stuff with At the time, we were the largest U.S customer for Hertz Rent-A-Car with nearly 500 vehicles Eventually to help the economy We transitioned to all local employees hired as temporary W2s at the end we had 1200 employees on the project The lab we contracted with was in Oakland California so twice a day Monday through Friday samples were flown from Van Nuys Airport up to Oakland by a contracted company using their own aircraft

26:47 And then he goes on to say about, he says working with the LAUSD was a nightmare as you can imagine. The DEI bullshit was off the charts both the LAUSD and company I worked for suffered mightily from the incompetence inherent to DEI literal effing idiots toxic paranoid narcissists When O'Biden's vax mandate came down, their true fascist nature was exposed. I had to fire people who did not want the poison vax because LAUSD did not want the unclean in their schools." And then our Boots on the Ground producer has his own confession he says, "'I know I will burn in hell for what I did which I am ashamed to admit I did out of greed.'

27:26 Of course. I love that he's, you know... You will not brother, we're praying for you. Having never made a lot of money and in the previous 10 years living outside the normal financial system and only making about $24,000 a year, I'm ashamed to say the temptation of 250 thousand dollars a year was too much to withstand I knew all about the Nuremberg Code, but on every occasion I attempted to discuss with my superiors. I was rebuffed! I still have a lump on my head from banging it against the wall in frustration on an hourly basis." Any attempt to improve operations or efficiency had to be measured against potential loss of revenue so that more inefficient and people required, the more money made by company made. Remember that contract was for up to $750 million dollars no way in hell they would leave money on the table

28:15 So that's it. That's really what is happening with these trans kids, that's what's happening with the entire pharmaceutical system itself. And yes of course there are good doctors I got a sweet note from one of our doctors who said we're not horrible! No of course you're not We're generalizing here. It's not the doctors fault, usually it is the protocols. Yes! The doctors have to go in especially if they are working for some organization and they have to follow the protocols or they just simply get fired. That is why Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine was thrown out of the door because no-no-no its not a protocol you can't do that. And you couldn't get emergency use authorization if there was something that could fix the problem

29:02 And then we come to the Vax. This morning, Chiefs defensive end BJ Thompson recovering following a medical emergency sources say the 25 year old Thompson appeared to suffer a seizure and go into cardiac arrest during a team meeting Thursday one year ahead drive cardiac arrest. There's a doctor on site and CPR is in progress at this time Team doctors and trainers working to stabilize the young player before an ambulance rushed him to a nearby hospital The The Chiefs cancelling practice, but not offering any official comment. How critical are those first few minutes post-cardiac event? The first few minutes and even seconds are critical we know that every second that the heart is not pumping blood as it should to the brain and the rest of the body, the probability of having a good outcome declines precipitously As a rookie defensive lineman Thompson played in one game last season showing promise

29:57 on a team that took home yet another Super Bowl championship. His college coach writing, prayers up for SFA football's own BJ Thompson thankful for the Chiefs medical team as the rapid and excellent response made the difference now you've been following sports ball for many many years Have you ever seen this many cardiac arrests around? It's happening commonly. There is actually a whole sub stack column dedicated to this I think i sent you one of these once in a while, every once and awhile because it has too many people in it The last time he did one...I can't remember the name, I'll have to get the name out put it into tips Yeah, tips! Put it into tips yes But its uh..the guy follows all these and he recently just did all

30:44 celebrities that were rock and roll musicians, they're starting to drop left and right. Or having these heart attacks just out of the blue. And it's pretty... Well I have a series of clips from Peter McCullough coming up later. Can I play the payoff to this one? Then we can actually go to McCullough. Actually I got something in the middle that should probably be played first. Yeah, I want the payoff. What's the payoff? Oh well do you wanna play your in the middle clip or... No no no, the in the middle clip is light Well the question that... The experts are stumped

31:24 They cannot, they're always stumped. They cannot figure out... These are experts by the way! They know everything about everything but for some reason this situation stumps them. They don't understand the cancers, they don't understand the cardiac issues. Turbo cancers. Aggressive turbo cancers. Is it something in the food? Is it something environmental? Is it stress? Trans fats. Here's the latest! We turn to a health alert now in a study released today raising concerns about a popular sugar substitute. Ann Thompson is here and what are we learning? Lester, this is the latest study to find a link between a common sugar substituting cardiovascular issues

32:08 Xylitol is in all sorts of things like sugar-free gum, candy and baked goods even toothpaste. So now it's the xylitol that's doing it? And by the way, xylitol has been in the public domain as a sweetener for an undigestible sweetner basically thats sugary I remember first hearing about it 30 years ago where were all the heart attacks then? Well Newsweek reports The latest, because he's high lethal. I mean people can't remember the name even no no energy drinks are linked to sudden cardiac arrest there it is oh that's new on the scene! The researchers at the Mayo Clinic have warned that drinking these beverages which often contain high amounts of caffeine and other stimulating ingredients Oh No dangerous for people with genetic heart disease

32:59 Yes, so they studied...they examined 144 sudden cardiac arrest survivors. Seven patients within this group had consumed one or more energy drinks near to the time of the cardiac event so you could drink a monster and keel over dead! When are we going to wake up as a civilization and go... Nobody's waking up. ...and go, no! No! Clearly- Nobody is waking up? There's at least- There's too much money. Money, money, money. There's 900 thousand people who listen to this show. They're waking up. They're like hey wait a minute I'm awake. Well yeah nine hundred thousand that's one in three hundred well less than one in three hundred people. Well if everybody tells 300 friends the whole country will be blanketed. We'd be rich.

33:46 I wish they would. All right, you're up to bat! Okay well here this is a little break in the action before we get to some more serious stuff but this is interesting because this isn't Ask Adam Oh hold on a second oh it wasn't...I was not prepared all right You have an Ask Adam yeah hold on I mean you're doing these and I wasn't quite you know We haven't been doing them Yeah I get it It's weird I didn't count you Answer the question. Do you play that jingle? Answer the question. Okay, so I got to ask Adam questions... Yes. Do I play it now? Yeah! Okay one of the country's most famous doctors is getting some long-awaited recognition. So okay one of them most famous and now you know who this is It can only be one of two people

34:36 can only be one of two people. And this is on, there's no video...this is NPR so it's very important? Yes but- Okay who are the one if two who do you think it might okay I'll give you the two what are they? Okay it could it's either the truly most important doctor in oh I'm sorry there's four I'll give them to you in order of appearance 1 Dr Peter McCullough 2 Dr Drew 3. Dr Fauci and 4. Dr Bill Jiden Well, you're damn close! Okay alright I've two answers here apparently which one do we play? You play the number 1 and which is the second was just a follow-up Getting some long awaited recognition I drink dr pepper and i'm proud I'm part of an original crew

35:26 Oh no! Dr. Pepper just surpassed Pepsi to become the second most popular carbonated beverage in America Coca-Cola is still number one Coca-Cola Classic has about 19% of the carbonated soft drink market in the US Dwayne Stanford is the editor and publisher of Beverage Digest So then, in second place you've got Dr. Pepper with an 8.3 share which is now a carbonated bubble or two ahead of Pepsi So misunderstood, yeah Now Dr. Pepper used to market itself as the plucky underdog of soft drinks, but is actually older than Coke or Pepsi. It was invented in Laco, Texas in 1885 started off as a regional brand and the Southwest and it grew over the years and its major national player which Wayne Stanford credits to dr peppers targeted marketing they've gone really big on college football

36:28 On any given weekend during the championship bowl series, you'll see Dr. Pepper. There you are. College football playoff trophy sent by Dr. Pepper. You're like a Greek god of trophies classic. This afternoon also has a strong presence on TikTok where Dr. Pepper and pickles has become thing here's TikToker Anna Grace Sims The pickles are in there. I even put some pickle juice in there for good measure and here goes the Dr Pepper! It's not bad Alright, I'm very disappointed in myself for a number of reasons One-I forgot to mention Dr Johnny Fever is one of the most important doctors in America Two-every single No Agenda show but I consume a seven and half fluid ounce can Of Dr Pepper That's why I knew it was established in 1885 because it says right on the can

37:23 And it has 23 authentic blends of flavors. Yes, do you know the ingredients of a Dr Pepper? There's a little more... What?! Do you know the ingredients of a Dr Pepper? No I do not! Carbonated water High fructose corn syrup Oh it's got high fructose corn syrup that's no good Caramel color Phosphoric acid Natural and artificial flavors Sodium benzoate Caffeine and it's produced under the authority of dr. Pepper 7up Inc Hall of Fame label all right there you go Frisco This is good loss aside as also a little more father first of all this is a native ad Do you think I've been finding native ads on NPR more often than not?

38:09 Oh, interesting. And they go out of their way to promote one product even though they mentioned the competition and they do a really good job it makes it sound like oh what an interesting story. Yeah they threw in Coca-Cola in there just to... Well they couldn't do this story without saying something but this is like news but its not news its native ad somebody bought and paid for this I didn't do the timing on it but im sure that length is right on the money in someway And the other thing is that's interesting and they actually sell this in a store in Marin County. But when Dr Pepper was sold to 7-Up, the original owners of family that owns it were allowed to continue making the original Dr Pepper as Dr Pibb? It's still called Dr Pepper

39:02 It has some differences on the label and it tastes better, and it's made with sugar not fructose corn syrup. HFC of course! And it's more expensive by a lot. It is a little bitty bottle and but it's good, and if you can... I think this still be made in Texas in Waco. Yeah, Waco is the OG. So you look at that being probably drink that instead of that crap your drinking? Well, you're right because they could give me cardiac arrest We can always just take it any minute. I could go! So if you want to finish off the native ad with more details, here we go. Can't wait It's weird but it's not bad Now that's a standard for ya. Weird but not bad Dwayne Stanford says Dr Pepper has gained ground also because of the choices by the rival it just passed Pepsi has invested more in their zero sugar offerings and

39:57 not as much in Pepsi Cola. They believe that's the future when it comes to carbonated soft drinks, so Pepsi Cola is down. Dr Pepper is up and Stanford anticipates Dr Pepper will stay in second place. So cheers to Dr Pepper. OK? The pickles are now the pickles yeah yeah. Wow. Would you like to be a pepper too? It's still in my head from when I was six years old. Dynamite. Good one, John! That's what jingles are good for. Wait until you hear the tip of the day jingle. And you know I know that the tip of the day is a runaway success because... Runaway success? Yeah everyone is running away from it. Unlike The Good News

40:41 I must have 20 tip of the day jingles. So people are liking it, they like the idea and they're going to have to wait until they get their daily dose of tip just a tip just a tip well you know this i know you say no one's gonna know is your season of reveal as crap but yeah but yeah yeah yeah but the uh... the supreme court justices That's really coming to a head right now. Why? Why, well because of the disclosure you heard about the disclosures

41:22 No. Oh, the disclosures! Tonight Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas for the first time is officially disclosing a controversial 2019 trip to Bali with billionaire Harlan Crowe At the time Thomas said that trips were form of personal hospitality that justices did not have to report Now his disclosure reports said two trips had been inadvertently omitted from his 2019 report As for his colleagues, Justice Katonji Brown Jackson reported receiving a $900,000 book advance plus four concert tickets worth $3700 from pop superstar Beyonce. And Justice Sonia Sotomayor disclosed $86,000 in book royalties

42:05 The Supreme Court adopted a new code of conduct last year, although critics say there's no way to enforce it. So this is really interesting because of course going after Clarence Thomas for these trips that he took on someone's private jet meanwhile meanwhile Katonji Jackson Brown gets a nine hundred thousand dollar advance on her book and we all know where we'll read and maybe you can explain how book sales work and how you get on the New York Times bestseller list Well, I can't really explain how you get on the New York Times bestseller list even though it tends to be just reported sales for a very short period of time from certain booksellers and then it's extrapolated and made into the book that the best sellers. This is not genuine reflection of any sales whatsoever because there's plenty of independent booksellers that sell a lot of books and never gets reported in The New York Times in the first place

43:04 So that's what I'm so that and so that's something of a promotion public relations What I'm nudging towards is you have some friendly group buy up a whole slew of those books and hand them out at conferences Yeah, that's very common. In fact, I had this I busted I was writing for the deck professional when I did there we call him once here We go is this really good story? Yeah So I'm at the Media Lab with the Hearst Corporation. MIT Media Lab? Yes, oh I got an invite to go but Will Hearst asked me if i wanted to go as a group part of the Hearst corporation

43:48 and just hang out with the corporation, the top guys and him. I don't think I know this story. Do i know this story? I don't think I know this story. Ah you should! Anyway so we go to the media lab Unlike reporters, normally when you go to the media lab they always make you sign a bunch of non-disclosures but because they were trying to sell the Hearst Corporation on some project there was no nondisclosures involved because it just assumed that we're not going to be talking about it. And so Frank Bennett was there and Randy Hurst, it was just a bunch of... Which I got to some very funny conversations that I got to have. Will and I. So we'd go in there and take the whole tour and I get to hear the pitch from Negroponte about how they've pre-sought their book on The Media Lab which will be written by Stuart Brand. He bragged about how they're going to do marketing for this book

44:49 and about how they're gonna, they sold the book on a pre-sale basis where you go in there and say look publisher we're gonna sell 50 thousand copies of this book right off the top. We're gonna buy them back from ya after they get printed. It was all part of this scheme to become best seller and you give the books away just what you said. And so were going through the And they're showing us all the crazy inventions they're having, and every time we ask about them they always... Every invention seems to have been invented in Japan or China. But they're showing all this stuff. At the very end what happened was at the final meeting where they were going on about how they should do this and that with technology and the examiner folks aren't there, the Hearst Corporation folks aren't buying most of it

45:44 And then Martin just so there's a kicker they bring in Marvin Minsky. Yeah was Epstein with him? I don't know no he wasn't but Marvin Minsky comes in and He sits down and immediately recognizes me, and he gets very upset And yes, what is this guy doing here? What is he doing here eggs pretty much what he said because I wasn't non-disclosed. I didn't have to do... You're a hater, you're troublemaker, you're troll! And they kicked me out. Will and I both left because it was over anyway so i already got what I needed So later in this story, I wrote this up in a DEC professional column

46:37 Calling out the media lab for being something of a sparse. Now, DEC Digital Equipment Corporation? Yeah they had a magazine. Oh! I was inside...I had the back cover so I wrote this thing up and it was very critical of the whole operation That's why they wanted you out! No wonder! It took like about three months before all of a sudden But Nagroponte was one of the primary publishers, kind of a publisher. I don't know what he really did there but of Wired Magazine so they immediately did a hit piece on me. How can you do that? What is there to hit on you? That's the point!

47:18 So they sent one of their top hit piece writers, Paulina Borsuk. He's got an old Lexus! He's no good I mean what can you do? he likes noise makers... so they have so they sent her after me and it was like and first thing i did is i did a little background she was a vegetarian vegan so i took out to dinner at Green's in San Francisco and got to know her She could not come up with anything the hit piece became a kind of a bio of me and why are you looking at this around? And it's so weak Wow, and it's like they couldn't do it because I'm not hittable. I don't really I'm not an interesting guy No one has been around the block Just boring just bored title potential show title will and I I like that oh

48:04 So anyway, so why just because I know a few people that's for sure. But so that the whole thing was a fiasco and it was like and that's the way it's done is phony. I got boots on the ground to make a long story longer. Yeah well hold on we got boots on the ground from our producer in South Dakota this is exactly how Kristi Noem gets her books on The New York Times bestseller list. Her campaign gives money to right-wing groups to buy them up and give them away to donors Yeah, that's what you do. That's what you do is a good way to go and doesn't make any money and it helps if I put him there that You know you shot your dog that helps? I mean just it's a little better than I got kicked out of MIT It's to be honest

48:45 Yeah, I didn't shoot any dogs. That would have been something Back to the Supreme Court and their book deals and their gifts The justices are allowed to have some outside income but most of their outside income is capped around $30,000 except You do not have to, uh...uhh..have a limit on book royalties and fees. So these justices who sign these multi-million dollar contracts are not subject to any cap and they can make as much as they can from these book deals. Which is clearly That's just as evil according to the information we have just gleaned from you. Because you can just... Well, not only that but these book deals and you see it all the time with somebody get here they quit office and the next thing you know they get a million dollar book deal They're not selling a million dollars worth of books based on royalties These deals are corrupt The idea is don't worry once you get out of office We'll make it up to ya And somebody I don't know how this works behind-the-scenes But somebody's giving somebody a lot of money

49:45 It's money laundering is what it is. The publisher gets a bunch of money, gives it to the Hillary Clinton let say or somebody she can actually sell a few books but most these people can't and next thing you know it's like you were in office should do this favor it's like people get jobs after the fact. Yeah! You'd made a Supreme Court ruling we're gonna make sure we give you...get a nice fat advance on your book and will buy it all back It's just as corrupt, if not much more. But no Clarence Thomas! Gotta go after him Now MSNBC your boy I shouldn't say that How racist of me Jonathan Capehart took a little different... I don't know why I said that Jonathan Capehart came out with a little different take and went straight to Trump where it all really belongs So that is part of what this is about Here's the intro into his guest

50:43 Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has finally acknowledged the luxury getaways he accepted as gifts from a Republican billionaire. Justice Thomas updated his financial disclosure forms yesterday to include two trips he took in 2019 with mega donor Harlan Crowe. Mega Donor! While he didn't provide a dollar value for the vacations with Crowe, ProPublica estimated they were worth more than 500 thousand bucks. Justice Thomas's friendship with Crowe has fueled serious concerns... By the way that's some vacation 500,000 I mean that must be... Yeah i'm not buying it. There's a couple things that don't buy that number but the other thing is so what? It's unless you can do the following and they're not doing it yeah connect him

51:27 What is the connection between Crow and Justice Thomas that's corrupt? I mean, was there one specific thing that Thomas ruled on? He's only one of a few. Let's find out! Maybe we can find out. Justice Thomas' friendship with Crow has fueled serious concerns about partisanship... Concerns! ...on the high court especially but the consequential cases... Wait wait wait Concerns about partisanship? Yes, you can't be partisan. So I'm concerned about your partisanship That's correct What does that even mean? It means that you're in the tank for Trump Hello The justices still have to release more than two dozen decisions over the next three weeks touching on several major issues from emergency abortion access

52:25 claim of presidential immunity. And then there's reason to fear the worst from the court that overturned Roe v Wade. Recently, Justice Sonia Sotomayor shared this warning about the rulings ahead. There are days that I've come to my office after an announcement of a case and closed my door and cried in those days. They're likely to be more. And yes, even I feel desperation. Oh despair! Okay, this I want to give you kudos for this because I knew about this per saying that. I've never heard a clip of it. I wish i could take it? That goes completely to the Clip Custodian today and he's already busy

53:18 Joining me now, Ian Millhiser senior correspondent for Vox where he focuses on the Supreme Court and the Constitution. He's also the author of The Agenda. How a Republican Supreme Court is Reshaping America. Ian thank you very much for coming to The Saturday Show. A lot of cases I want to get through in the little time that we have Alright so a lot of cases in a little amount of time let's guess what could it be about? First there is Trump versus United States this is his theme presidential immunity how do we think thats gonna go? I mean I think Trump has already won this case like

54:03 so much that I think the answer is going to be no. I was very surprised at how the oral argument went. There have been like 16 judges who have heard this claim and only two of them said that the statute should be read narrowly so these January 6th defendants essentially get off Now we're talking about there's about 1,200 January 6th defendants including Donald Trump And only about 300 of them have been charged under the statute at issue here. So it's not like it's going to be blanket immunity for January 6th defendants, but we're talking about a good chunk of people who participated in the insurrection."

54:50 Lock up the praying grannies. Insurrection! Doesn't seem like much happening there, let's get to the case that we're all so concerned about... The next couple of cases have to do with abortion, the Miffa-Pristone case How do you think the justices are going to rule on that? So that is, you know of the two abortion cases that's the one I'm most optimistic about. They'll leave it alone? They'll leave access to Miffy-Prestone? That's correct! More than half of abortions in the United States are performed with Miffy-Prestone and i think they realize if they accept the lower courts reasoning to ban it so many other drugs would be banned look these guys don't like abortion but they don't want to ban antibiotics

55:30 All right, and so that's the good news on abortion there. Thank you for the hope Ian. Neither of us have a vagina but ha ha! And this is with Moyle versus United States. I don't even like women! This is whether federal law regulating hospitals Trump's local abortion bans when it comes to performing emergency abortions. You think the court is going to do what? I mean, I'm worried about this case. There is a federal law that doesn't refer specifically to abortions but says if you go to an emergency room and have a medical emergency they have to stabilize your health condition so if the appropriate treatment is an abortion

56:09 law right now says that you have a right to an abortion. I think based on the oral argument they're likely to write that out of the statute or at least put some kind of limits on it so people who need life-saving, health saving abortions won't be able to get them anymore." Okay, who cares? Alright kill babies! Good news everybody but here it is... The one we've all been waiting for.... The real deal and all comes down to this according to your NO Agenda show. Now here's a case I don't think a lot of people even know about, and this is euphemistically known as the Chevron case. And this is one whether to overturn... The what? The Chevron what? Chevron case he said but he means... Oh so it says Chevron... No he means Chevron deference. Chevron deference yes. ...the Chevron case and this is one whether to overturn... So they said right! Right?! He's...I dunno... They say Chevron right. ...the Chevron case and this is... Now the other guy says in the middle says right

57:05 It's a meta-noke. Whether to overturn the landmark Supreme Court ruling in the 1984 Chevron case that gave federal agencies leeway to interpret the law, sounds very dry Ian but explain why this is the most important case decision to come down from the Supreme Court? This is both the most hyper technical like even lawyers have trouble understanding a case but also the most important. Well they don't! Podcasters seem to get it for some reason Lawyers have no trouble understanding this. Yeah, but this is meant to obfuscate and to confuse people Don't listen to this people don't listen to this part You don't need to know about the Chevron rights thing what it's not important? Don't just get rid of the black guy So there are just scads of federal laws that delegate power to a federal agency you know everything from like how much

57:56 emissions come from power plants, to what your cable rates are, to who gets overtime pay is controlled by federal agencies. Chevron was a case from the Reagan era which said that courts should generally let agencies do what they need to do and defer to them. What the court is likely to do here is essentially give itself a veto power over everything the agencies do so it's not just It's a huge transfer of power and it's a huge transfer of power from the Democratic Biden administration to a Supreme Court that has a 6-3 Republican majority. And would that have, to your point about regulating antibiotics...

58:34 purview over the FDA, right? Potentially. The FDA has its own statute which is different than the regulatory regime that concerns Chevron but what we've seen from the Supreme Court overall they've been making up all these things with names like the major questions doctrine yeah that lets them interfere with agencies so like this court wants to have the last word on a lot of things okay So they've made it all about, oh if Trump comes in then you won't be able to get your abortion drug. That's literally what they're doing. Couple of things I gotta get out of the way here It's not so the courts can do to say, oh we don't like what you're doing and we got six conservatives who are gonna change. This is the throwback to where it belongs. The lawmaking supposed to take place by the legislative branch, not the courts, not the executive which is the administrative state. It's supposed to be the legislative branch and what this Chevron deference case is supposed to do is kick it back

59:32 and make it so the legislature takes a little more responsibility for all these crazy rules that these guys dream up because they hate global warming or whatever. And so this is a very, I would say dishonest report that you're listening to Interestingly, Katie Fang from MSNBC had little problem explaining it in 37 seconds. The Chevron deference is a 40-year old precedent where federal judges grant federal agencies latitude on how to interpret legislative statutes Judges are supposed to follow a two-part process. One, examine the congressional language and if the intent is clear the matter is settled but two, if the language is ambiguous then the ruling court must defer to that agency on how the law should be implemented essentially

1:00:26 Ask the experts. And without the Chevron deference doctrine in place, everything and I mean everything in your life could be affected." And now the kicker! So everyone's going after Clarence Thomas The real problem guy is Gorsuch This is a clip from his confirmation hearing where he discusses this quite clearly. Section 706 of the Administrative Procedures Act says basically two things, and I'm paraphrasing it says that courts are supposed to defer to the factual findings of agencies so the extent you're talking about experts biologists chemists whatever manner regulatory expertise we're talking about there the courts are to defer to that and take that seriously

1:01:24 just as we would say the factual finding of a jury or district court judge that comes to us with the presumption of correctness clear error standard review very hard to meet section 706 however also goes on to say when it comes to questions of law, courts are going interpret the law despite that command from this body the courts have created a doctrine that says If there's any ambiguity in the law, the agency gets to make the decision about what the law means. And I have questions about that doctrine. I've raised questions about whether that's compatible with the plain language of Section 706." I'd say crosshairs on Gorsuch next! They gotta dig up some dirt on him. Yeah he has to be a target now The thing people need to be reminded of is before...I think it was 84 when the Chevron deference became

1:02:27 the law of the land, kind of you want to call it that or the law of the land and a lawless. What was going on before 1984? The administrative state was still there but it wasn't running roughshod over the US public which is doing now by all we have to have all electric cars or else That's the only reason. I mean, before 1984 there was...I was working in an administrative agency for years and it was before 1984 and they had all their kangaroo court. They did the whole thing as pretty much the same except it wasn't writing roughshod

1:03:06 over the public like it's been doing since night, since the Chevron deference came into being. And it took them a while to figure it out but these bureaucrats, it took them awhile but once they figured out hey you know we can do what we want! We'll just dream stuff up. Do this and that and base on whatever doesn't make any difference because we run the shop. So this is what happened in this has to be reversed And it appears that people in the know actually understand this is what it's about. It's not even about Trump But it's hardly about Trump. Yeah, but that's the joke of it you bring Trump in this year. Trump doesn't even I doubt Trump even has a clue about any of this to be honest about it. I don't know he might do anyone who put who put that they John Bolton in his cabinet or is in his sphere of influence as she knows shit well the ice I watched Tina and I watched last night

1:04:03 The two-hour interview of Tucker with Thomas Massey. Have you seen this by any chance? No, I have not and probably never will It is required watching This guy is... he's funny He's very smart I didn't know that he has 30 patents on virtual reality 3D objects that uh..I think he sold to a lot of Silicon Valley companies You know, this Hillbilly who created this. This is a very interesting guy and he even talks about how the but during COVID he jumped in his car and drove eight hours to show up for the vote for the CARES Act to stop it at two trillion dollars

1:04:47 Because he's like, no this is not by unanimous consent. And of course the rules are if one shows up then that's not unanimous consent and Trump was calling him like you know good and he does great impressions of Trump and McConnell I mean he was just out now John you will love this interview You will okay? I'll watch it then and I pulled a couple clips for you The first one answers, kind of answers a very important question we have about Mike Johnson. Why all of the sudden did Mike Johnson spin around 180 degrees and fold on all this military aid and grab Russia's money? And ban TikTok? We've been asking ourselves this question for months! I thought we had one answer to it which is that he did it to stay in office

1:05:39 Well, here's Massey's answer. is that he says he went in a skiff. Like, he's had some 180 degree turns on some things like for instance whether you need a warrant to spy on Americans using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act 702 program where he used to be on Judiciary Committee with me and Jim Jordan trying to reform that trying to get... So he understood what it was? He knew completely what we were talking about. He's an attorney too right? And he knows the Constitution. He knows this is required but he claims he spent time in a skiff

1:06:16 And he learned Skiff, that's secure compartmentalized information facility or something. It's where we go we have to leave our phones locked up you know no staff in there. He claims he spent time in Skiff and learned things that changed his mind here's the problem Tucker I was in Skiff with him Like we had, we had DNI not just the current DNI but the former DNA John Radcliffe Trump's DNI. We had CIA, we had FBI, we even had a FISA judge in there and we spent three and a half hours it was a four hour meeting after three and a half hours is basically a psyop where they're just trying to beat you down and do the things

1:06:59 And I was like, this is ridiculous. You haven't given... They didn't give us one example of any time ever since FISA was created that getting a warrant would have kept them from solving or preventing an act of terrorism. They gave hypotheticals but they had no specific... And I think FISA has been in place since 1978, since the 70's anyway. Right. I'm sorry yeah, I forgot to mention this was about FISA so they psyoped him And there's a little gotcha in there because he says it was a four-hour meeting and he was in there with him for three and a half hours. I'm thinking that last half hour is when they said, hey Mike look at this picture! That's what I think but then Tucker does ask for what do you think the truth is? So what is the truth? What do you think changed?

1:07:52 I think he's kind of a lost ball in tall weeds. They think he's in a position of power, you never imagined he would get to at this point in his life. He has not done anything in private practice or political arena that prepared him for this. He took the job with a very small staff He didn't have people to put in all positions on the field and he had to accept a lot of suggestions in areas. He didn't know a whole lot about although he gets no pass on FISA, yes, um, he gets no pass on Ukraine because he does as you pointed out, he doesn't even know how many casualties have been incurred on the Ukrainian side. I mean, he needs this second person in line for president after Kamala Harris

1:08:38 This is scary to me. He's basically getting moved around." And he was very clear that he was all in with Marjorie, he doesn't say Marjorie Taylor Greene and just calls her Marge. Says I'm all in with Marge we're gonna get rid of him! We don't want him back as Speaker of the House Now, there was a clip that went viral from this interview. Ben when you hear the viral clip you'll understand why because there's a lot of people who have been waiting for proof! Proof that Israel runs our Congress! Why have Republicans who come to me on the floor and say I wish i could vote with you today yours is the right vote but I would just take too much flack back home

1:09:21 And I have Republicans who come to me and say, that's wrong. What APAC is doing to you? Let me talk to my APAC person by the way everybody but me has an APAC person like that mean in a pack person it's like your babysitter your APAC babysitter who is always talking to you for APAC they're probably a constituent in your district But they are, you know, firmly embedded in AIPAC and- Every member has something like this? I don't know how it works on the Democrat side. But that's how it works on the Republican side

1:09:57 And when they come to DC, you go have lunch with them. And they've got your cell number and you have conversations with them." So I've had like... That's absolutely crazy! I've had four members of Congress say, I'll talk to my AIPAC person. It's really what we call the MyAPAC guy. I'll talk to my AIPAC guy and see if I can get him to dial those ads back. Why haven't I heard this before? It doesn't benefit anybody. Why would they want to tell their constituents that they've basically got a buddy system with somebody who's representing a foreign country? It doesn't benefit the congressman for people to know that so they're not going to tell you that So this of course this went viral because now everyone can say, You see! The Jews run it They run everything Israel runs America They've got guys They've got babysitters It's proof

1:10:53 Unfortunately, it's taken out of context because when you watch this interview he explains very clearly what is going on. But first a disclaimer and kind of an understanding APAC of course the American Israeli... What is it? What is the...? Political Action Committee No no they have a political...no its not That's what APAC is! They didn't have one years ago The original APAC is the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee. Okay and there's a little issue here that I want to bring up because you saw this interview, I didn't

1:11:32 Which is that if there's an APAC contact with your cell phone number, did Tucker bring up or say is there a guy from the petroleum industry that does this? He did actually. It was very funny I didn't clip it he said hey do you have a Germany guy do you have an Italy guy? Does he? No, no he doesn't. It's only APAC that does this? Only APAC. I think I have the clip. It is very similar to the NRA who are all about guns. You'll get to it but first a real problem because APAC as we've discussed is funded by the AEIF

1:12:14 which is the American Israel Education Foundation and its donors are Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and General Atomics amongst others. So here's Massey saying this is why he doesn't want to deal with any of these guys because this is who he is I'm not against Israel I've never voted to sanction Israel. I've never said anything particularly critical of Israel, other than for instance right now they're bombing... They've killed 1% of the civilian population in Gaza that's concerning to me but so what do they do now? Yeah you get elected 2012. Do you hear from them again

1:12:53 I vote my conscience, which they won't tolerate. So they ran with their 501c4 before they had a super PAC. They were running educational advocacy ads against me saying that you know I'm bad on Israel. They didn't say don't vote for him they just said he's a bad guy And so I said, all right. Well you're not welcome in my office anymore because for years I invited them into my office let's talk this through let me explain to you the libertarian leaning Republican and don't vote for foreign aid for anybody So don't be offended when I don't vote for your foreign aid I don't vote for wars anywhere so don't be offended if I tell you that I'm for free speech even if it's abhorrent and we used to talk but now they're banned from my office

1:13:41 situation went from bad to worse. This election cycle they spent $400,000 against me." So the point he's making is that they basically call him an anti-Semite and a Jew hater for not wanting to talk to them But here's the real reason why. Now to your point, they should be registered with FARA. This is what FARA is where there's gray area where it's an American representing a foreign country let's look and see if you're getting any money from that foreign country are you a dual citizen with that foreign country? Are you being directed by for instance Netanyahu speaking to your group advising you on your next move

1:14:21 those, are you getting money from the military industrial complex? Because to understand AIPAC I think it's easiest to model them as a military industrial lobby. Their biggest thing is they want more equipment, more military equipment from the United States going to Israel in fact When they used to be allowed in my office, the argument they would make is we're just stimulating the US military industrial complex because every single penny of the $3.8 billion that they nominally get now they're getting way more than that but Israel normally gets goes to US military contractors

1:15:07 And this is what we heard over and over again. So now you can point out the people who got a call from their AIPAC guy, hey man make sure everyone needs to know this is about our defense industrial base Of course, Israel 3.8 billion is nothing but this is where AIPAC shines." Now that didn't make me warm and fuzzy okay? But that is their argument and if you notice what they advocate for I think sometimes they advocate for things that even Israelis wouldn't advocate for. I believe that Like they would be okay with a war with Iran like all out apocalyptic war with Iran whereas there are people in Israel saying whoa hold on a second

1:15:47 we'd rather not have a war with Iran, but AIPAC does things that lead us in that direction. And so they're kind of like what the NRA is to gun owners, AIPAC is to Israel or what the Farm Bureau is to farmers, AIPAC is to Israel. In other words- Represents a faction? Right. They represent a faction but usually a corporate faction that and they're using the imprimatur of grassroots, that they've diluted or confused into bullying congressmen. So the way I see it is actually the exact opposite. The real money which is in case anyone missed it $900 billion a year this most recent year more than that now a trillion cool trillion total since we added some extra money

1:16:32 It's the opposite. The defense industrial base is abusing the Jews and playing the Jew card to force people into signing off on weaponry, especially if it's against Iran. Hello Lindsey Graham! And it's worse because then you take the Christians who are like, oh Jews of the chosen people. Let's get them in on the deal too! They didn't have a political action committee at that time they couldn't spend hundreds or thousands or millions of dollars against me at that time It was just sort of like a whisper campaign to try and say don't vote for him blah blah blah That's why

1:17:10 Because at that point they sensed I wouldn't do what they wanted. What did they whisper against you? What were they saying about you? Well, it would do it through for instance churches evangelical churches They've got an organization called Christians United for Israel where sort of co-opted evangelicals People think it's a grassroots movement in Kentucky. It's actually a top down movement from AIPAC so that people who aren't even Jewish will feel like they've got to support Israel, you know, no matter what and even if it's a secular state that funds abortions, they just sort of forget that part and we've got to fund Israel. So they have networks. So it's more than just about the money. And then just one bonus clip

1:17:57 Which is, which just completes the whole circle about Afghanistan and Russia and Ukraine and Israel. Why are we in a war with Russia? I've never figured that out. Why Russia it almost seems like they picked it off a map like why would be at war with Russia You know, what's interesting is we were in Afghanistan and I was tracking this. I talked to the special inspector general John Sopko about twice a year about the money that was being wasted in Afghanistan it was about $50 billion dollars a year and I was glad to see us get out of Afghanistan but kind of like feathering the clutch and shifting gears we just went from second gear to third gear because as soon as we quit spending 50 billion dollars a year in Afghanistan We started spending more than fifty billion dollars a year in Ukraine

1:18:40 There's a military industrial complex, they call it the defense industrial base now in the United States. They say we have to...they're hungry and we've got to keep them fed and since we don't have any of our own wars and we don't have a reason to deplete our stocks and our bombs and weapons that we have, we engage in these other things to keep them healthy and thriving. In fact, the Biden administration even made that argument in a letter to Congress for why we should do this supplemental foreign aid to Israel, to Ukraine, to Taiwan. They made the argument that the defense industrial base needs to be strong and so we need to spend this money and they gave a list of all the states in the United States that would benefit from this spending and that's why they said we should do it."

1:19:24 And that's what Trump does. That's exactly what Trump was doing, that's the only manufacturing we have and if I think Trump will come in he is going to figure out a way to get more money into defense but eventually do we just start more wars in Africa or you have to deplete the stuff to create more? But that's Africa is a good target. Nobody notices who cares, exactly. Well but then unfortunately we'll have to play Africa news which will kill the show. No we're not going to play African news that that's the idea you're not gonna play African news so we can waste money down there they want to kill the show how about Trump coming in and maybe auditing the Defense Department and see what who's ripping us off? We're spending too much money for what we're getting for the bang for the buck I don't care about throwing

1:20:15 wasting bombs and all the rest of it, seems to me that there's some hidden money here. It's like black energy." He's never even hinted at doing that! I mean the only thing i could think of is Trump would come in say alright you guys are all wasteful and we have enough weaponry now Boeing why don't you stop doing that dumb stuff with your strike fighter your joint fighter? Why don't you build a real plane One that I can fly in and you know, but yeah all these other companies Why don't you start building good cars that people want? I mean that could be something That'll be the day Instead of tanks build this a good car being to trans trend because it medical associate medical operations go well, you know hell with that money Well anyway

1:21:09 I like Mass. Yeah, he sounds like a good guy. He built his own house! himself. With wood he collected on his land I know the type The guy's funny, and he got a Tesla battery to power it and says it was crazy I bought this Tesla battery and had to get special permission to transport because its considered hazardous material It is! Totally! Yet that's strapped under your car That guy's funny OK, we will definitely listen to him. Yes. This is under a lot he is under attack. Oh yeah. Part of the Marjorie Taylor Greene Yeah this cabal very small group is only maybe five or six people and well he definitely is I think no agenda type guy when you hear what how he talks like makes a lot of sense Well now I can do a whole series of clips from Peter McCullough yes

1:22:11 which is a lot of subclips. He was on the show called The Courageous Discourse. Is this a podcast? Yeah! Oh, excellent! He's on a podcast and I just found this to be the series of very... He names names, who's doing the bioweapon development. Oh excellent! This is why there are two of us John I'm watching Massey you're watching McCullough we come together on Sunday Bada bing bada boom what a show we got He names names, he points the finger. He's very funny, likes to laugh about stuff and he is so knowledgeable it's like listening to him you know the guys on top and it just amazing that me that he's not like a surgeon general or something. A little bit pushed... You can't, a guy like this is so powerful in his intellectual pursuits that you can't kick him to the curb

1:23:13 And he'll just keep cropping up here and there, and this is one of the best examples I think. And it's about stuff that you haven't heard in... It should enrage the public that some of this is going on. But let's go with McCullough on Courageous, he's on the podcast Courageous Discourses number one I wanted to have you on particularly to talk about this disease X. You know, disease x is not Twitter. Disease X is a theoretical disease that people in this biopharmaceutical complex have been writing about for years including Peter Daszak at the EcoHealth Alliance has been writing, I said can't wait for disease X. It's going to infect mankind it's gonna have a high kill rate. So we're seeing 20 times that of COVID the Global Vaccine Alliance said disease X is gonna be bird flu and I think they were right. You're in my backyard Dvorak! Yep

1:24:14 I thought you'd get a kick out of these clips. You have my attention for sure. Okay, let's go to two. They've been talking about bird flu for years! I remember back during the Obama administration they would have these bird flu fear campaigns in the media and nothing ever really came of it what is going on with bird flu Has a lab finally hit the jackpot in terms of making it very contagious for humans? Is that what we're talking about here. There has been gain-of-function research on bird flu for decades now, researchers have been working on this two doctors Dr. Meric Howell at University Wisconsin and Dr. Ron Fouchier at Rotterdam the Netherlands they've been trying to make this virus

1:24:58 jump from human to human for a decade or more. Jump! Nothing's been in the open more than this, bird flu infects chickens largely sometimes cattle and Chinese started vaccinating for this back in the 90s it's made it way worse so now the birds spread around even more The main method of handling it is kill all the birds. When one bird gets a bird flu, kill the whole poultry flock I think that's been a disaster they're gonna have to let the birds get some natural immunity we're talking about highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza, also known as bird flu. About 800 to 900 human cases when it spreads from the animal to the worker and historically there's had a 52.7% mortality rate largely because of people lots of handling their birds Southeast Asia no medical care presenting late

1:25:55 The most recent outbreak, we've had three human cases in the United States. Two of them were pink eye one with some respiratory symptoms all easily treated so I don't think bird flu is going to be much of a human threat unless it starts spreading human-to-human and if it does believe me we're gonna nail the gain-of-function guys who have been working on this and the Southeastern Poultry Research Center in Athens, Georgia. We think that's where the most recent strain came out of. Does Dr. McCullough at any point mention that the birds aren't real? I would. You know what they were doing, Dave? They were doing experiments in Mallard Ducks migratory waterfowl. What a mistake! One of those guys gets out and they fly everywhere you know the media has not been asking the question why did it spread from Texas to Iowa to Michigan how does this happen magic they didn't ask the question they just think it's spontaneously arising no it's being spread by

1:27:00 And do we have any recourse to be able to stop this or sue this lab for spreading a migratory bird with a novel disease? All these experts are saying, We have to get ahead of nature. That's what Disease X researchers said. We have to get ahead of nature. We have to make it invade humankind and then come up with vaccines So, disease X vaccines the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation that's that global center founded by Gates Foundation World Economic Forum have an entire over 100 page white paper on disease x. They said the whole reason to study disease x is to have a disease vaccine sure enough with bird flu CSL Sequerius biotech company has the audence vaccine it was FDA

1:27:48 in 2021 with no human data, ready to go for bird flu. They developed it with BARDA, a research unit of the military, 2021 and now the US has purchased enough doses for millions of administrations. Why would the U.S. military be developing a bird flu vaccine? And why in 2021? Now, news was out this week that Pfizer and Moderna are talking to the federal government about messenger RNA vaccines. CSL has a Self-replicating messenger RNA vaccine in development. CEPI with the Koreans have a self replicating messenger RNA vaccine. So coming back to our boots on the ground, I mean the testing industrial complex must just be salivating too you know by the way how do you test for bird flu? I came across this last night. Do you know what the test is? You swab your eye

1:28:46 Oh, yuck! Yeah. If your nose wasn't bad enough or they jammed it into your brain now they're gonna put a cotton swab in your eye to see if you have bird flu and we need to remind newer listeners Peter McCullough is highly decorated but this is a... he's undeplatformable now they're just not putting him on mainstream news anymore But they can't get rid of him because he has so many... Podcasters are a big threat. That's what it was, the clip we had recently where they claim that podcasters were like the big threat against all these schemes Yes clearly! Clearly the podcasters are the problem Problematic podcasters

1:29:27 Yes, so McCullough's one of those guys who enjoys talking. He does he does But it's like he has so much at the tip...He's not using any notes at all! He never looks down and he just off the top of his head has every all these stats and they're right to the number They're right to the point something And he just goes on and on with this. He's great, this is part four. I gotta tell you that bird flu is disease X because people have an aspiration of mass vaccinating the world again! COVID wasn't enough now it's game-on disease x bird flu. I know how disease X spreads... It spreads through the internet So is this gonna be potentially more lethal than COVID or what? What is your thoughts on this?

1:30:13 So far, you know it's early but the cases appear mild. It looks like this strain and what we're tracking is H5N1 clade 2.3.44B. We actually got it down to the clade N in the mutation that came out of the Athens Georgia lab. This one Luckily, so far it appears to be very benign. Pink eye and something easily treated with iodine nasal sprays and gargles also temavir, tamiflu, hydroxychloroquine is all going to cover it easily. So it doesn't appear to be very dangerous to humans the reason why its dangerous animals is because they are incinerating all the animals instead of letting them get through it

1:30:55 This is a mild version. I think we ought to have some observational studies to just see what is the mortality rate in birds? We can't destroy every last chicken because the mallard ducks are going to continue to spread it around. It all, I love that! The only danger to chickens is they're gonna get incinerated Man, it all fits together with the cultured lab chicken meat and everything. It all kind of fits together though doesn't it? It's a nice little puzzle they've built here. And these things always... Yeah, it's pretty... When they benefit... The Mallard duck thing he is really on that He just thinks this deplorable that they would effect a duck I mean this even effects reality TV shows What will Duck Dynasty do They'll be out of business

1:31:45 I think they've been out of business. They're pretty popular, my man. Pretty popular. All right onward next is what? Five five yeah What about the...I've heard in the news they've been saying that they are concerned about the virus being spread by raw milk drinkers. The people drinking raw milk unpasteurized from cows are the ones that are going to spread the bird flu? How does that narrative get started and what's coming on, what's going on with that. Yeah I doubt it most of it is going to be through respiratory or touching in cases of conjunctivitis invariably the workers handle the animals and they touch their eyes there has been a few tests

1:32:28 products in the store where they find some viral particles. And again, they're doing PCR testing so we're talking about grossly inflated positive tests that are false positive tests but even what they found is not active in the grocery store Now they're kind of zeroing in on who drinks raw milk. I doubt that that's going to be a route of spread it largely, it has to be airborne and come in through the nose and mouth. A couple of articles to back up this disease X hype CNN with bird flu infecting dairy cattle FDA is now asking states to curb sales of raw milk

1:33:06 From right here in the backyard, bird flu detected in Austin wastewater. Woo! Hair on fire! Blue hair on fire and STAT that's the medical shill publication that we've discussed in the past they basically take money to write articles allegedly Here's the title, How CO2 Helps Viruses Stay Alive Longer in the Air. So they bring it all in... Yeah! I saw that article that's hilarious so I was gonna put a newsletter actually. Hilarious! We've really got everything we need. I mean we've got the climate change, we've got the vegans, we've got lab meat

1:33:50 We've got the vaccine industry, we've got the testing industrial complex. I mean it really is perfect! We have a guy, another tester out there that does the wastewater stuff and he says you see... It's bullcrap. It's bull crap! He says you centrifuge everything until you get to so there is no really just keep reducing and reducing and reducing and then you can test that and it is always going be you can find anything you want in there The only problem In fact the only person who doesn't benefit from this scam is Mimi

1:34:27 I mean, too many eggs dot com is just it's going to be a problem when there's no man that she could well know she can write a follow up. Not enough eggs? No egg. No eggs dot com. All right six so what is being done if anything to try to stop or hold these people accountable It seems like the only politician you hear about who still does things ongoing about this matter and try to hold people accountable is Senator Rand Paul. I know there's a few others too, but from your you're very much involved in this fight for transparency and accountability what are you hearing in terms of? Is there going to be any accountability for the folks like Peter Dazak and Fauci regarding this gain-of-function research that they've lied about it's been slow progress but credit to Brad Winstrup

1:35:19 Marjorie Taylor Greene, Chip Roy and others in the house. They've been plotting through this. They got to the point where Dasik clearly is one of the co-conspirators and one of the creators of SARS CoV2 so as Anthony Fauci Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill and Dr. Xingling Li in China. The four people who created COVID that got us sick Fauci was pretending the whole time that he was responding to this, yet he knew it was part of the creation of this. And it's all covered up by the way. That's interesting their email show cover-up. They recently had David Morins in who is Fauci's assistant and they were using personal email accounts changing characters and letters to try to throw off

1:36:03 The FOIA requests, I mean these guys knew what they were doing was wrong. They created a virus that got the whole world sick and then they tried to front vaccines on us so... Oh McCullough man! What is he doing as a guest on podcast? He needs his own podcasts. He's running his foundation which is doing a lot of work. He needs a better mic is what he needs Yes, yeah. He does what he needs a better rig. He needs to rig. He needs a rig or something. Give me a call Dr. McCall I'll send you a rig this is embarrassing so anyway this interview went on for almost an hour and a half I can tell the seven clips is a lot even for you. Very I usually cut it at night and so I kind of moved into one little spot I want to just get this little last bit in there and the rest of it people can go

1:36:53 to the discourse podcast and listen to the whole thing if they want to. I should send you the link for those show notes, but it's a show notes here and but I just thought this little bit at the end here was worthwhile. I just pulled it out of the blue and all the government agency websites, National Security Administration, for instance says, well we think it came out of nature but with a low probability. Then they say but it's not a bioweapon! Why do they say that? Why do they have to front that? It's because in 1975 we actually have some legislation saying that we can't be in the business of creating biological weapons and so they try

1:37:33 put that out there, but clearly it was a biological threat. We all got sick from it. There's a paper by Farkas in military medicine that's evaluated SARS-CoV-2 along about three dozen criteria for biological weapons and they've concluded you know SARS-CoV-2 meets criteria for those two papers by Yen also show that So, I mean we have to ask the question was our government in the business of creating biological threats and then creating countermeasures like therapeutics and vaccines? What?! Of course they are! That's what you do. You create a biological threat and you have to have the antidote so that when your guys get it you can still be okay and go in and kill the enemy. Yeah that's fine and dandy but its illegal. There is gambling going on there!? My goodness...of course it's illegal

1:38:22 I don't, you know... killing civilians also illegal. So the point is that he makes it throughout this thing is that these guys conspire to create the COVID-2 virus that kill anyone out there whose family member or anybody died should really be outraged by any of this and the many more to come who will die suddenly And then the many, right. And then the people who just kind of have been dropping dead left and right that you brought out at the early part of the show they should be outraged by this and they should be outraged about this lab in Georgia and it should be outraged by the North Carolina operation They should be outraged by all of it but nobody's outraged by any of it Except us we're not even that outraged We're just like oh brother there we go again Yeah were either outraged about the appeal to heaven flag or the trans flag That's our outrage That's our level

1:39:17 Flags! Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. What do we do John? In the olden days... Ah here we go I think the public would be with torches and hangman's knots, nooses and be burning down that Georgia lab. No we're gonna post memes! We'll get them! We're gonna post memes! We're gonna troll them! That's what we do! We are weak...we've had good times it creates weak men. We're about to go into tough times you see what it creates? You and I will sit back in our rocking chairs and laugh

1:39:55 four more years. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say what? What, what? I can't find my... My office has been cleaned up so I gotta find it Thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the courageous discourse Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr John C DeVore Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there In the morning to the trolls in the troll room stop running around let me count you

1:40:33 Let me see, let me see. Now we are a little late so a little later than usual in fact were about 40 minutes over time for this break but how could we not just stop and wait for Dr. McCullough 2119 on the last Thursday right now we're at 1989 so I call it a wash i think we're pretty good I think the trolls are pretty good. Good, I think the trolls are hanging in there because it was good you know and they're already teeing up their memes. Teing up their memes yeah hey man that's what we do make it all good. I think that sounds pretty good! Good? There ya go

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1:42:09 You know, I was listening to... Oh man. NPR did a whole thing on Alex Jones? Did you happen to catch any of that? Uh, I caught a little bit of it. They were definitely gloating Yeah and in fact let me play one of these clips here as a bonus. Alex Jones is one step closer to paying the families who sued him for defamation. NPR's Tovia Smith has been following the story. Tovia good morning Good morning What does chapter 7 liquidation mean Well, it would basically mean that there'd be a fire sale. A controlled but swift sale of everything from Jones' ownership in his company called Free Speech Systems to his personal gun collection and it means the ball could get rolling pretty quickly on at least some payment for those Sandy Hook families who won that defamation suit

1:42:56 But the payment wouldn't be anywhere close to what these families are owed. Jones's assets are estimated now at about $10 million, which might mean just around a couple hundred thousand dollars for each of the plaintiffs at least initially and I say initially because a Chapter 7 trustee would have authority to hunt down any assets that Jones may have hidden And this hunting license, as some call it would be a forever thing because Jones's case unlike most bankruptcy cases where debts are washed away and you could get a fresh start. The judge ruled in Jones' case that can't happen because his wrongdoing was intentional and malicious so bottom line the families will have a claim on Jones' future earnings for the rest of his life. This is why I'm so happy we never went to the route of a lot of these other guys and made tens of millions of dollars

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1:46:08 And it always looks good, it's fresh. It looks great in the podcast apps. It looks good when you put it out there and promote the show which is another way you can provide value back to us. And low and behold, the episode art for 1666 which was titled Weird spelled W-Y-R-D came from none other than the very controversial Francisco Scaramanga! He created a very nice D-Day piece Which wasn't like we weren't overly enthusiastic, like jumping up and down. But it was D-Day. We did the show on D-Day itself and we got a lot of positive comments people say that's great with that thank you for honoring my grandfather or whatever else by the way so someone from the Pentagon got in touch with me

1:47:03 again, our producers right? And said hey give me your grandfather's date of birth. So I happened to have this and he dug up my grandfather's draft card. Yeah, that's sweet! Well it gets better he says every person who landed at Normandy automatically qualifies for a French like Legion Donor or something. The Legion of Honor yeah the Legion of Honor and so then he said you know we're looking at your family history it looks like

1:47:38 because he came from Germany. He said, looks like you came from Prussia you may actually have royal blood in you which means I'm part lizard. Part lizard Adam yeah i believe this to be true. I'm very excited about learning this is better than 23andMe! This is the kind of producers we have Other pieces. Thank you, Roy. Corrections part that explains a lot on part reptile baby there you go let me see other pieces that we looked at there was a lot of well let's start off by saying a couple of things sir please do first of all scare among us turned out to be something of an a-hole

1:48:21 By being goaded into condemning the show on the no agenda, no authority website. Which I find to be very offensive you didn't even want to use this piece because you were so upset about it And I'm very irked by the whole thing and might as well make the statement now, I am not going to no authority for anything. I've had it with that website. I think Aaron has done a very piss poor job of moderating because basically he says, I'm not moderating so we have a slew of A-holes on there that are just doing nothing positive for this show They just say negative things and they just condemn you, they condemn me. They condemn everybody in between and they get people like Scaramanga all jacked up

1:49:06 in situations where they shouldn't be. And mad, and so that site is dead to me I'm not going if anybody wants to contact me using that site you're not gonna get it go back to Twitter because i have refused now too... It's just like everything else some of these guys start up and you have somebody like Aaron are running They don't do their job properly. They're above it all, they won't take advice from anyone and it's like no authority early in the... I'm sorry no agenda social now nor authority and before that the No Agenda forums we've had this happen over and over again

1:49:46 where people take it upon themselves to be jerks and I So don't look for me there. I'm not either I mean, um This is a little bit of projection because I mean You know we are the ones taking the Jew money so you know that is kind of our own fault Yeah Where's that Jew money by the way? Where is it? I don't know. I'm expecting more CIA money, but we don't get enough of that once in a while. We do have to say check the PO box once in awhile he gets some agency money, but it's rare. Very rare. Very rare anyway moving right along. We had let's see if we had another Normandy D-Day piece by Tontenelle you kind of like the D day diapers

1:50:36 from Sir Paul Couture. I did, which were it was small. There was just technically some things that I think were a problem. Yeah you didn't like it? No not that I didn't like making fun of him We're not using devils ever! No we are not using devil's. What is the point? We both kind of liked Dame Kenny Ben's baseball hit in the mouth No, that's not true. I liked it you didn't like it you thought was too gruesome? no it was just the opposite! I liked it and use you threw back at me as to gruesome well I repent. You said why wait a minute your violating your own gruesome rule. Well...I repent It is actually pretty good piece now that we look at it. Well, I think the points well taken is a little gruesome yeah and then Sir Shug

1:51:34 Did a like a wheel of fortune which I guess was supposed to be adios mofos, I guess Oh, I didn't figure. Right? Funny now the reason Adios Mofos The reason why it's kind of interesting is you know Pat Sajak this is why I think he did a pat say Jack is ending his 40 year run as the host of Wheel Of Fortune last Friday. It was done on May 30th there was a rather interesting episode which I had not heard about and quite frankly I'm surprised seeing the level of maturity of most of our listeners and of us

1:52:10 Uh, here's a clip. Our first toss-up is worth $1,000. Category is phrase and off we go! Tavares? Right in the butt... What?! He thought the answer was right in the butt which obviously was not Wow That aired that aired Yeah well why not I find rather interesting Anyway, we thank and congratulate Francisco Scaramanga with his win for episode 1666. Now we move over to the treasure portion of the value-for-value model. These are the executive producers who come in with

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1:53:59 33, 33, 33. You've got karma I mean wow yeah it's pretty spectacular well if that wasn't enough random number theory Yeah if that wasn't enough someone we haven't heard of heard from for a while Sir Donald of the fire bottles came in and he uses the, and he found some more of his United Federation of Planets Starfleet Command letterhead. And he also from Eastern Washington donated 333 dot 33 which is very strange that we have this two in a row like this. That's amazing!

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2:08:33 That's right, the ever-ongoing vape wars. So remember the FDA US Food and Drug Administration really went after vape juice and vapes in general, and made it so that if you even wanted to introduce a vape juice onto the market you had to pay them $1 million per flavor, per nicotine level. Which pretty much cleared everybody out, everybody fell apart, the whole industry went dead including Juul... And guess what?

2:09:11 Now they've reversed their decision on the Juul vape. What are the chances? What are the chances that they ruined an entire industry and then let the incumbent bigwig back in This is why we need Chevron deference, what a bunch of horrible people Yeah I'd say It's really unconscionable what they did there Of course you won't hear much about it I have a cannabis clip from NPR Let's spark it up here. Researchers at UCLA say roughly one in five adults seeking routine health care are using cannabis, details from NPRs Will Stone That 1 in 5 statistic comes from a large study of electronic records collected from about 175 thousand patients They had been asked about cannabis use ahead of their annual wellness visit in the UCLA Health System The majority of patients using cannabis said they did so to manage symptoms

2:10:05 The most common being sleeplessness, pain and anxiety. About 40% said they used cannabis weekly. Inhaling cannabis was about as common as ingesting it. The results generally aligned with previous research. Those between the age of 18 and 29 were much more likely to use cannabis than people over 60. Yeah, I don't know. No, I don't think this is true. I think people over 60 aren't going to say tell the doctor that they're using cannabis if you go to those stores you find us especially outside of California you'll find that the Pot stores are filled with old ladies. Yeah, yeah I never thought it was a good idea to have the pot stores and you got to show your ID and then you're on record somewhere And then all of sudden they're doing studies on you and they're doing news articles But there's a lot that they're doing Particularly when it comes to products of addiction etc one of them

2:11:07 being the internet itself. Thanks for having me. All right, first of all let's clarify what is an addiction and what is a teenager just being a teenager? Sure so in the U.S., there's not currently a diagnosis for internet addiction however there are several similarities between what we refer to as substance use disorders and the problems we see associated with heavy smartphone use and social media use

2:11:53 So this includes things like cravings to use, unsuccessful attempts to reduce their use. Feeling powerless to change their use and a negative impact on relationships as a result of you. When you start to see these things that's when we start to think there might be more of problem versus teens just being teens. In some regards it is bit like alcohol or anything else when it starts affecting other areas in your life and this study essentially said much like some other things we get addicted too it can rewire the brain. Talk a little bit more about that? Yeah, that's exactly right! So we know that when we overuse things like smartphones and social media it kind of gets into our reward system in the brain which involves this chemical dopamine which is essentially you do something good feels good and we want more

2:12:39 So then it goes on and on about okay, so okay fine we get it is but what's happening? Is studies like this are popping up and they're now using it for the following. This is happening in New York We have breaking news right now. New York State is one step closer to having two new laws that will protect kids online both measures have just made it through the legislature and Governor Hochul says that she will sign them. One statute is designed to restrict algorithms that hook kids on social media, and the other will limit the collection of personal data The governor says that the state will lead the nation in online safety by implementing these new laws So look for the following meme Look for Social Media Is As Addictive as Cigarettes It's Cocaine As Oreos

2:13:26 And this will require some form of ID to be used to sign up for your social media website. Elon is salivating, believe me because you might as well just give me all your details so I can open a bank account for you it's all gonna be groovy baby just trust me! They have a couple of clips on this but i wanted to preface it with He's with something that happened to me. There was a guy, there was an expert on addiction I forgot his name he is a professor and he was notorious for being the king of discussing true addictions Tiger King?

2:14:05 And he, I don't know who it is. Can't remember this was like 25 years ago and i was writing a column about it because I had this thesis at the time that the mouse was an addictive implement because there's like a slot machine lever Wait a minute! This was after the infamous no evidence article? Yes, It was after the No Evidence And so I had this theory about, you know the mouse and you get rewards or you get addicted to the computer and your clicking on your clicking in getting results. So I got a hold of the professor that discussed this with him because I needed it. I just need one attribution so I could throw it in there while he's right. That's how we always do it yeah? And he says no! He says now this is bull crap. He says all these phony baloney addictions aren't addictions

2:14:51 And he was very strict about what's an addiction. It's something you really, it's literally an addiction where you're like hooked on heroin or something like that the rest of this is all habituation and all these other things that happen to you none of its in addiction there's no such thing as an internet addiction And yeah, that's what I said. That doesn't sound right! By the way, I wrote the column anyway without his... Hey if the evidence doesn't... If the experts don't agree just say it! Who cares? Just like everybody else in the media. So well done. Well be honest. Yeah so uh.. So i take some of these stories you know because I actually took that to heart

2:15:37 And you know it's not no this is not an addiction in fact even I believe he would say that cocaine was never an addiction It's just a habituation so Because people could just stop it. So I have a series of clips on teens and screen time ah here we go, and this was borderline Tip for the end of the show but if Dell wasn't gonna do it goodness a little too long. But I'm thinking about doing this sort of thing as a tip, but this is again back to NPR and this is more thinking some advice. This is advice for you and your teens and I think this is actually quite good. Early adolescence is a time when kids are becoming more independent and spending more time on social media

2:16:23 When it comes to curving screen time in this age group, new research suggests that what parents do really matters. And PRS Maria Godoy reports I'm the parent of a tween and young teen So when I saw the findings of a new study on parenting strategies and screen use among young adolescents The first thing that jumped my mind was Taylor Swift Oh My Yep, parent screen time influences how much kids use them. That was one of the study's key findings Dr Jason Nagata is a pediatrician at UC San Francisco and the study's lead author It's really important to role model screen behaviors for your children because one of the biggest predictors of your child or teenager screen use is actually parents' screen use

2:17:09 The study looked at data from more than 10,000 12 and 13 year olds and their parents who were asked about their screen use habits including texting social media video chatting and watching and browsing online. Even if teens say that they don't get influenced by their parents it actually the data does show that um actually parents are a bigger influence then then they may think oh i'm sure that the kids see their parents uh dream scrolling all the time yeah well except in this household Yes, this is true. Take a guess at where my phone is? I'm just gonna guess it's in the drawer Exactly! And it has been in the drawer for the last year and half

2:17:53 I don't know if it's affected anybody, you do a dinner everybody still pulls their phones out but not as much as they used to. And what do you do when people... okay so when you're at the dinner table and all the young'uns pull their phones out? What do you do? Do you make fun of them? Do you say something snarky? Is there something important that i should know about? I'll do that. I'd do the ridicule. I also say oh hey can you look something up for me You know, one of the things I've always done at the dinner table is there'd be a little debate about something. So well who's got a phone? Let's look it up! And make the slaves look this information for me Because I don't have a phone and so, uh... And they generally do although i think there's the resentment that takes place. But yeah! I like that like look it up for me. Look it up for me? Yeah, I like how you say that. I like-yeah, I like that. It works after awhile they get a little tired of it now just to check but Do you still have a landline

2:18:48 Of course. Yeah, okay good Is it one of those phony VoIP landlines that you get from your cable company? You know I hate to admit it but this actually comes off the Sonic digital line. I should have a real man like a wire out the window Exactly because it has its own power supply so if the whole place goes dark Everything goes dark It still works somehow Yeah, I don't have that. Which is...I'd rather have but I don't. Okay this is part two of this clip. Dr Jenny Radesky is a pediatrician at the University of Michigan who studies kids and digital media she says she hears parents express feelings of guilt about their own screen use all the time our immediate response is like

2:19:30 I'm terrible. I'm so bad at this." But instead of beating ourselves up, she says parents should realize that we too are vulnerable to technology that's deliberately designed to keep our attention glued. We have been asked to parent around an increasingly complex digital ecosystem that's like actively working against our limit setting for ourselves and for our kids But that doesn't mean we're completely powerless. Nagata's study found that keeping mealtimes and bedtimes screen-free are effective strategies! Interestingly, the study found that using screens as a reward or punishment actually backfired – it was linked to kids spending more time on their devices. Instead, researchers recommend parents work with their kids to come up with consistent family guidelines about when its okay to use screens

2:20:24 and to question what we're really getting out of it whenever we feel compelled to keep scrolling. I do not like her voice, very bit annoying. Her voice is annoying me. She's a very annoying... And the other thing is the use of the word screens when they're talking about cell phones Yeah yeah because that's what we're talking about here and its screens on screens The tip in there was that Using screen time as a reward is a bad idea. So there's two movements here in Texas, one I have to have a name for it like eighth or something 8-8th I can't remember what it is but the parents are now joining together and they're all because you know if one household doesn't have phones its no good so all the parents are now saying let's not give in local school here let's not give our kids phones at all until eighth grade and they're having some success with that

2:21:21 But you know, it's just... What does a kid need a phone for in the sixth grade? They don't. That's the point. Now the other thing is instead of a phone they give them a gun. Hey! You want to gun instead of a phone?! Now you're talking! Yeah and that teaches you some real responsibility then they go to the shooting range with their kids Or they can hold up the parents for a phone Turn around and say give me your phone mom! These things work quite well Actually, I have some AI stuff including a little bit of boots on the ground which i thought is kind of interesting. You know Adobe updated their terms and service... Their terms of service and Tom Starkweather one of our producers or top producers

2:22:08 Uh, he quit Adobe. He's very mad. Have you heard about this? What do you mean he quit it? He wasn't working for Adobe. No, he quit using it. He closed his account and many, many Adobe users are very angry about um .4 point two licenses to your content where there's the usual uh, you grant us and not cause it's all cloud based You grant us a non-exclusive worldwide royalty free sub licensable license to use reproduce publicly display distribute modify create derivative works based on publicly perform and translate the content And even though they came back with a clarification because so many people were mad and were quitting Adobe. People get mad easily, especially when these companies try to take your stuff Yes for AI I mean that's the whole issue is like you're taking my stuff if you're baking it into your LLM and in essence using my stuff to sell to other customers They are trying to kind of waffle around it

2:23:10 But it's not working. And I think this is a crack, this is an interesting crack in the armor of AI. Ooh okay! I didn't know about this. This is interesting yeah. Crack in the armor of AI and you know this clip led me to a little bit of research from The Rising. Free speech or free will? Former CEO of Twitter Jack Dorsey argued at the Oslo Freedom Forum for the latter Actually that's not...that clips not interesting I'm sorry I don't even need the clip to accentuate. We've been seeing these open AI people writing letters, open letters to the world. Here's an article OpenAI safety staffers are jumping ship! They're jumping ship because they feel that they're not being responsible about the AI

2:24:04 Politico, here inside the culture clash dominating. I didn't even know this but there's a whole lobbying group from OpenAI and other artificial intelligence companies that are all in Washington DC And an old favorite came back when I kind of understood what had happened here. Because, you know, of course we got Biden's executive order all the senators had a closed door meeting because there are hundreds of millions of dollars... let's say tens of millions of dollars maybe hundreds

2:24:41 that is going into lobbying for AI and of course everybody wants to be the most important AI on the block. But all of the people they sent, all of these safety people, the board members that were kicked out of OpenAI every single one of them including the person who most recently quit the co-founder, well he was kind of kicked out and this guy Daniel Koczajlo. All of these people have one thing in common can you guess what it is? They're investors in AI they are effective altruists oh no worse so none of these people are actually technology people then as I've looked into it

2:25:32 They all had this idea that they're going to save the world with math. This is what AI's gonna do And they're all so worried that one day, you know maybe in 10 20 or 50 years we'll have an actual human acting artificial intelligence and they're worried about the future me. The future self is all part of this cult this effect of altruism and that's why they're jumping ship not because there's any actual magic sauce going on there that's doing anything but they just don't like That, you know that it's not being done for good and that people are making money on it. It's not right! This whole thing is a farce this... I'm reminded of the singularity people what happened to them? It's the same nut jobs

2:26:25 So this Daniel guy who left, they're nut jobs. He wrote a paper just listen and I read this to Tina and said can you tell me what this means? This is how all these people speak with the it's like they literally use chat GPT listen to this abstract of his paper First, we argue that the appeal of effective altruism – henceforth EA – depends significantly on a certain empirical premise we call heavy-tail hypothesis which characterizes the probability distribution of opportunities for doing good.

2:27:06 The heavy tail hypothesis implies that the best causes, interventions or charities produce orders of magnitude greater good than the average ones constituting a substantial portion of the total amount of good caused by altruistic interventions. Next, we canvas arguments that effective altruists have given for the existence of a positive or right-heavy tail and argue that they can also apply in a sort of negative or left heavy tail where counterproductive interventions do orders of magnitude more harm than ineffective or moderately harmful ones. These people are... Oh you know? Makes nothing but sense! Yeah exactly I knew you would like it

2:27:45 These people are crazy. They're in a cult, there's a weird sex angle to all of this polygamy... Yeah the sex angles with the... A lot of polygamy stuff That's the kicker Look at Sam Altman and tell me that guy isn't on the spectrum in a very creepy way And they have nothing! They've got a cool demo Yes you know the Millennial Mel went back and forth with me And she says, hey. Millennial male still around? I thought you bailed out! No no well she's in Portland so she's having a rough time and i think she's actually very happy there That's worse than New York City She um...she says hey you know I don't want to convince you of anything but You know I find that I've been able to code some stuff I said look yes absolutely it can help you code It can help you write for an unskilled coder or an unskill writer even

2:28:36 Even the GitHub copilot, it definitely helps with coding. Anything that has to do with language it can help It's not going to be creative You can't say build me something Build me the next awesome iPhone app It has no idea what to do And the biggest problem is...it costs too much money And right now you're getting it for free or almost $20 a month is free. For what it really costs to do this stuff and that's the phase we're in, in any tech bubble. Eyeballs baby eyeballs! It's all about eyeballs That's all they're doing. I think it's interesting, but I was more kind of fascinated by the heavy tail which is a derivative of longtail which was a huge trend. Oh it's long tail! Which was another Silicon Valley one of the many buzzwords that comes out of Silicon Valley and they're always derivatives so heavy tail makes no sense

2:29:35 It doesn't make any, I mean long tails you can kind of understand it if it's explained. But heavy tail? What does that mean? I don't know! I don't know what does it mean?! I don't know but they're all very concerned with the world and you know the guy who started this whole effect of altruism some Brit Now, he's like I give away half... They're doing everything wrong. I give away half of my money to good causes. No the half of my money thing that Bill Gates came up with, that scam! Yeah yeah Give away half your money to us! To the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation so we can invest it for you. The no agenda show what's wrong with you? Well that's what i'd like to hear We got a little bit from Barosky that's for sure

2:30:21 So this and everyone's falling for it because you get these, they are. You get these really complicated actually the quasi intellectual explanations that are very appealing to a lot of people what you get with technology press in particular and The New York Times has a technology guy who is not very bright in my opinion And all they do was fawn fawn fawn because the founder interview. And if you don't fawn, and you don't suck up to the PR people who send you free gear and give your free accounts then you'll never get the founder interview because of course we all want to interview Elon or we all want to interview Sam Altman these are the gods they're false idols I'm telling ya that's how it works

2:31:10 And, I mean my god man! NVIDIA. It's unbelievable. I was watching the keynote by the CEO...I tried to clip it but didn't know how He is talking about NIMS and these modules and it's going to be in the new world of manufacturing This is a new industrial revolution I'm like this isn't-this is a middle aged Asian guy in a motorcycle jacket Give me a break No It's nuts. I mean, yes with enough power which is what they're talking about? The power required for their new stuff is just out of this world And how effective Altruist... By the way How does that work with climate change EAs? How's your heavy tail on that Back to NVIDIA since you mentioned him I met this guy and had a dinner with him some years ago before it the company was what it is today Oh this guy, the Asian guy in the leather jacket Yeah Jensen Jensen yeah

2:32:12 He's a very sharp guy. I think he is at this point in over his head with the latest stuff and the question comes to mind if i was going to ask him, which I'll probably never get to see him again Because, you know I'm washed up. Certainly not after the show! After Thursday's show John and i were talking about being invited we never get invited to parties and John literally goes with a bit of sadness in his voice, I'M WASHED UP!! So that's where that came from. Washed up... so what is the deal with this power consumption?

2:32:52 I mean, they've always been kind of in videos always been kind of cavalier about their power consumption. And while the whole world is going in the other direction about God we got to keep the power down, we gotta keep the power down and they never thought that way and now it's gotten to the point where its ludicrous the amount of power that is chewed up by their chips, they're doomed to failure because it's going in the wrong direction especially in a world of climate change. Well that doesn't seem to matter! That doesn't hit the heavy tail I'm just going to keep using this all the time. You know, the heavy tail hypothesis of this is that climate change... It's shame it's big butt once you use that! No, it's not the same But yeah, yes with enough power we can't even get back to the moon and the reason why is because we don't have enough power We don't have enough rocket to get there

2:33:51 This, the whole idea of you string enough computers together. Yeah I guess you can get something out of it but it's just predictive It's not smart, it's not intelligence...it's just nonsense and all that needs to happen is one we need one company To say yeah were scaling back on this We're not in on it anymore Who's going to be the first company to say that? You can't predict that Ask AI. Ask, ask Chad GPT which company is going to scale back on AI first? Okay chat GPT

2:34:32 which is chat.openai.com, okay? All right prompt jockeys! Okay what am I asking it? Give me the prompt. Which company will scale back on its AI plans first? It won't answer the question, I guarantee it. Well okay first I gotta be a prompt jockey and I'm going to say you are... You are a stock market analyst, okay? Oh, anal-sit. That won't work. Analyst? Okay Here's the question Alright here we go Let's see Searching Google is the company that is scaling back on its AI plans first There you go They say it's gonna What evidence of there... Is this?! Where's the evidence? Google decided to reduce the use of AI generated answers in its search results That's kinda weak Google's decision to scale back involves limiting AI generated content for certain queries Meh, that's not a really good answer

2:35:34 That's just chat GPT slagging off Google, you know what I mean? That's just chat GPT looking at the news stories. Yahoo! Yeah exactly. Yahoo News and saying oh look at this well it looks like because Google did make this announcement because it's such a failure yeah and a laughable failure and is creating nothing but ridicule for Google And so they said that in a press release and so they picked the press release up and that was their answer. Okay, pretty much about it. It's all you can come up with. Yeah I know They haven't dissolved the department No no but we heard from other boots on the ground guy at Microsoft You know it's so expensive We had 20 people on one thing and what was it $2,000 a day or something? I mean come on

2:36:26 That's crazy. Of course you're just a hater I'm not a hater it's just i want to yeah what else are we going to talk about? We happen to understand how this scam works, we've been around Silicon Valley long enough we see it It's a hype Nvidia now is this one stock keeping the The S&P 500 at all time highs. One stock is keeping the market propped up! I know... It's amazing, it's amazing. It is amazing, I have to say. What else is amazing? Is this China Secret Police. Not sure if that was the greatest segway ever done. Probably the worst, right there with some of mine But uh..I do have a couple clips I want to get out here You've had these for awhile

2:37:14 Yes, they're not new but it's going on all over the place and nobody cares. Okay here we go A rare peek into the inner workings of China secret police operation a former Chinese spy spilled the beans after defecting to Australia he spoke with NTD about Beijing's tactics to snatch dissidents overseas. A confession from a former Chinese spy for 15 years he worked as an undercover agent helping Beijing track dissidents around the world and lure them back to China. Anyone that's against the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping could become a target The former spy goes by the name Eric after defecting to Australia he is now going public

2:37:56 lifting the veil on a global operation to snatch those critical of Beijing. Key to the operation is a unit inside China's top police agency called the First Bureau, it's in charge of agents like Eric. It's a bit like Stasi, KGB or Gestapo of Nazi Germany as a political repression tool it has only one goal and that is to maintain the Chinese Communist Party's control And that includes controlling voices outside China's borders. Eric was but one agent spinning China's web across the globe, tracking dissidents and waiting for the right moment to bait and trap them. According to reports from safeguard defenders Chinese authorities were able to coerce 12000 people to return to China from over 120 countries over the past decade

2:38:46 Many were sent back to China without even their host countries even being made aware. Eric says he was responsible for tracking down dissidents in Australia, Canada India Cambodia and Thailand My main job was to collect information such as getting inside the target's circle to establish relationships with them Also to learn their plans ahead of time You need to know what they're going to do next This is really important Even more so than simply arresting an Irish person Well, what does it have to do with the price of bread? I find it interesting that they've got these agents all over the world grabbing their own people. Dragging them back then they stupidly somehow get him to volunteer. I think sometimes they black bag him but getting involved. Okay, I'll go back you know whatever you say and they go back and get thrown in jail good Get him out. Get rid of it take him take him China take him You can wait for me at the border

2:39:44 Here's the rest of it. One of the targets was a political cartoonist called Red Pepper. His satirical cartoons often mocked the Chinese Communist Party and its leader Xi Jinping. It was about the end of 2016, Eric messaged me on Twitter saying he liked my cartoons and wanted to chat privately. We later communicated through email

2:40:23 He approached me as someone that was pro-democracy. Posing as a real estate agent, Eric asked Red Pepper to design a logo for his project. It went smoothly. I only knew years later that this was a trap to win my trust Once the logo was done, Eric extended another job offer with one condition—that Red Pepper had go Cambodia for the job interview But I have a bad impression of Southeast Asian countries, that they're not safe. I don't trust them because of their human rights records especially Cambodia so I replied to him saying i wouldn't go Thailand Burma Laos these countries are the top choices for Chinese secret police trying to catch dissidents local governments turn a blind eye to Chinese operations and sometimes even work with Chinese agents

2:41:11 Red Pepper was in the dark about the plan to snatch him until a reporter from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reached out to him to confirm Eric's story. Turns out, the Eric that was in communication with me defected Eric said he was coerced into working as a spy and always wanted to flee. Asked why he went public with his closely guarded secrets. Of course I had my own reasons, some of them i can't really disclose but also like what the news report said it fits into my values. I have always believed that the inner workings of these secret worlds should be disclosed one day Donald Trump don't trust China! China is asshole! You know I wonder how much did this stuff we do?

2:41:54 None of it. None of that. We're not going to bring people back, you know we taxed you on the way out! No I'm gonna bring us back down to earth here With just two clips. These are very important clips because the latest thing that everyone is all concerned about, concerned we've moved to threat level, concerned about Donald Trump, concerned about his revenge! Tonight back on the campaign trail for the first time since he was convicted of 34 criminal counts former President Donald Trump increasingly focused on revenge. I just went through a rigged trial in New York

2:42:35 In a series of interviews, Trump implying that if he's reelected he will seek payback against Democrats including Joe Biden. Look when this election is over based on what they've done I would have every right to go after them and it's easy because it's Joe Biden! In an interview with Dr. Phil he doubled down You have so much to do you don't have time to get even you only have time to get right. Well, revenge does take time I will say that it does and sometimes revenge can be justified but i have to be honest you know sometimes they can in another interview dodging a question about whether he would order the justice department to prosecute Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg who brought the case that led to his conviction saying quote we're going to see what happens no gonna see what happens yes this is all mind reading

2:43:29 If you listen carefully and parse this, what Trump has been saying is... I've seen all these. He's mostly saying this has to stop and I don't want to continue it. You know, we can't keep going like this that shouldn't happen to another guy like what happened to me shouldn't happen to anybody again? I don't care who it is he's really going out of his way to say just the opposite of what this reporter is saying This is a lie What is basically in this is dishonest reporting What is so cool about this and where did come from by the way that was CNN

2:44:05 No, I'm sorry. That was ABC. Yeah, CNN would make a lot of sense but it's inexcusable. So here is the CNN clip Laura Coates and she has Eric Holder former Attorney General on the show. Who should have been arrested? Talking about this revenge. This is probably the most Perfect example of wat je zegt ben je zelf met je kop door de helft. I want to help you out here, I'm going to preface this for you This clip is being used a lot by the right to show exactly what you said What i say you are, I am It's a terrific clip

2:44:50 Can you just describe a little bit in terms of the role and how it would transform if an attorney general were not looking at things purely from the facts, purely from the evidentiary burden on how to meet it. But instead taking directives on who to prosecute from the President United States? Sure, if the president told a compliant attorney general I don't like what this congressman said about me or did to me over the course of the last two three years whatever. Open an investigation on that person That attorney general could tell a compliant United States Attorney to do just that Talk to a compliant FBI director who could be replaced

2:45:28 by the president, to open an investigation and then to just look through that person's life and look for anything that you possibly can find. And who is to say what you find in any person's life that might run afoul of the law? Even beyond that, the mere fact of an investigation, of a person who is a public figure can be reputation ruining. Can be politically damaging not even if you find anything just the fact that the investigation itself exists and if you've got the full weight of the Justice Department, the full weight to the presidency, the full weight of the FBI focusing on somebody like that... That can be extremely damaging to not only that person individually but to our democracy writ large

2:46:10 Exactly what they've done. Exactly what they've done, it's an unbelievable clip and you know this is a pre-tip this is before you get the tip so just we're showing you the tip if someone... We are a constitutional republic in America A constitutional representative Republic actually If anyone says That's a danger to democracy or you're a danger to democracy? Your answer should be, your darn right it is. Democracy... the founding fathers called it mobocracy which is what these people want this has to stop we have to change our words Stop using democracy! Democracy! Oh, is this threat of democracy? Yeah, It's all a threat to democracy as it should be that was my pre-tip

2:47:03 Okay. You don't like it? You want my pre-tip, I'm sorry. No back to this...I do like it so I have a couple of clips from last year that I want to play out because I've decided and I have a thought on this these are the two clips of Trump off the hook one of them is very short They're both pretty short, but let's start with Trump off the hook Georgia former president Donald Trump won two legal victories today in Georgia The Court of Appeals is delaying any action on the election interference case against Trump until October at the earliest and a federal judge In Florida is postponing key hearings in the classified documents case pending there There does another clip that says pretty much the same thing anyway

2:47:49 And I was listening to this stuff and I'm going, oh that's uh... Oh yeah the reason is because all they wanted to do was be able to use the term convicted felon. And so these other cases are now who cares what differences it make. We already have him convicted felon on 32, I'm sorry 34 felonies and that's all you need that's all they wanted that's what they got and so these other cases are all gonna fall by the wayside there never going to conclude we're never gonna hear about them anymore about the documents in Mar-a-Lago or anything else because they got what they wanted the moniker

2:48:28 That's all they wanted was that you can use in their promotions for Joe Biden to get reelected. And I think you've seen many, because you're on TikTok all the time, I think you've seen the clips where people go, yeah, I'm voting for a convicted felon and I like it! People are saying this over and over again. Yeah, I'm voting for the guy who is a lesser criminal of all of this stuff. It's a total backfire and you still gotta wonder Isn't it just exactly done to get him elected so they can do the big rug pull and then have everything collapse, including NVIDIA. All of it all of it in one go man with this play there I've got some analysis clips. I want to play this one. There's two of them actually are pretty good descent. This is NPR they bring an analyst and they talk about stuff. Play NPR Analysis Trump 34. This is about that

2:49:23 been more than a week since Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony charges. Still early of course, but any indication if it's changing votes? I think we can say that the conviction has overall been a net negative for Trump but really only marginally i mean that's what polls had showed coming in that that was most likely uh and it seems to be playing out that way so far uh it's only been a week since the conviction we'll see if this is just a bump or something more lasting. More important is whether this moves any key groups that had been wavering about voting for Biden, in particular younger voters who'd been the most likely to say beforehand that they could be moved depending on the verdict. This election is expected to be close. Any movement on the margins could be decisive of course. Wait he so he talks about any key groups that might be affected by this and he doesn't mention black males?

2:50:16 No, no. They started younger people are going to think twice about this. Oh black males don't exist anymore for people at NPR there's nonexistent grow non-existent you actually hear you nailed it they're not like males are out that's right they're no longer important screw your black males does that sounds too much like blackmail yeah So I got one, let me play this clip too. This is the NPR analysis about Ukraine and Trump. President Biden is in France as we speak to observe the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings in Normandy. In one speech he said that heroes of that day are summoning us now They're not asking us to do their job they're asking us to do our job To protect freedom and our time

2:51:04 to defend democracy, to stand up aggression abroad and at home. Domenico, he didn't mention Donald Trump by name but... Yeah. Well this is a huge dividing line foreign policy between Biden and Trump very different approaches to the world and there Biden is implicitly warning against creeping isolationism and separation from allies something that Trump has really made a hallmark of his own foreign policy really turning more inward. Biden is more of a traditionalist believing that American involvement in moral leadership um is very important around the world as obviously was the case in World War II Of course, the backdrop of all this is the war in Ukraine. You know Biden supports more funding of the war and standing behind the country under siege from Russia with Trump on the other hand you know there are lots of questions about maybe how much territory would he encourage Ukraine to give away to Russia in order to get the war to end? This is a very different approaches that we've seen from Biden and from Trump and very different ways

2:52:03 allies see the approach that the United States could take depending on who wins this election. Your analysis, your analysis. Yeah, Trump is an obvious piece, Nick! And he'll do anything to end the war. He doesn't see any benefit in it, he's a real estate guy not a military industrial complex guy and that's what's going to happen they have to do a reset here now taking it little more in depth where we think that you know this whole thing may be a setup so just to get Trump in for some reason or other might have some influence on that. But no, he's not going to let this continue as far as I can tell. I could be wrong. He is going to turn into a warmonger. I don't see any evidence of it. Of course the real news is the new thing that is sweeping TikTok Do The Biden Have you seen the do the Biden meme?

2:52:56 Yes, actually I reposted it this morning. Yeah do the Biden. Do the Biden yeah where you just kind of squat down a little bit like you're gonna poop like your pooping yeah it's like everyone's doing now do the Biden. It's a dance! It is very slow dance. Slow Dance! I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah they'd be fab We do have a couple of meetups. We do have a nighting and we have some title changes, and of course some birthdays And we have some people to thank our producers who came in $50 and above right under the executive producer level John take us through the 50s well Let's start with Natalie is s o l o TES I'm not sure how to pronounce that she's in Clarence New York

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3:05:30 It's like a party! Like a party, everybody. I have two ISOs? You have a lot. Why don't you go first? You got a lot of ISOs today, I saw Yeah, these are all experimental ISOs. Okay, experimental ISO's it is everybody. What can happen? Start with the top one enjoy. Okay here we go. They'll enjoy the food. Hmm yeah okay Forbidden Which is forbidden in Islam. Okay Horrible Horrible! Yeah I like that one Nice and clean Thank you Thank you

3:06:29 Mmm, very experimental and a classic. It's a new wow Wow That's probably the best one that's a good wow but I don't know I may have you beat here Let's try this one A country gone to hell! Hmm? Come on come on Gotta undo the show That is insane! Eh? Borderline Borderline well what do you like I mean, I think where's the rest of yours? I only had two. I said ahead to thank you. I think the thank you maybe it can do that. Wow! Thank you and wow together let me see because that might actually be a little better. Hold on let me see. Thank you. Wow! How about the other way around? Well, thank you. Let me see. Yes. Wow!

3:07:21 You call it. Which way do you want it? I know, it's hard right? The thank you is... It doesn't have the same intonation as the wow. I think thank-thank you and then- How about horrible and horrible in thank you? Let me see.. I didn't like the horrible. Let's try it Horrible! Thank you No just to thank you. I'm done with this We'll just do thank you And now ladies and gentlemen it is time for... You know what its time for Creative lives for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Hey man, that's a jingle. That's a jingle right there thank you shwoo Alright what's your tip? I thought you had the tip No we're gonna do a tip off You do the tip then i do a tip Don't you remember that? Okay I got it I got a tip

3:08:22 So this is a tip for people who have the habit of drinking soda or water or whatever and doshing it with a bunch of apple cider vinegar. It's either for health benefits, gut health so you don't have leaky gut, gut health or losing weight Go to amazon.com and get the Hingstenberg 13 fine herbs flavored German vinegar seasoning instead, and use that instead of apple cider vinegar it is delicious in like I'm using it now in a Topo Chico you dump a bunch of it in like a tablespoon of the vinegar into the water and you got something that's refreshing and delicious

3:09:12 It's Hengstenberg. You can look it up by putting herb flavored vinegar and you'll find there is a bunch of people that make these things. All right, I have three tips actually for my tip. Tip one... Three? Yes! Tip one never ever ask your wife to help you with the tip she was very mad she said you should do your own tip second tip sending email to me mark important put you to the bottom of the list Do you see this people who send email and then go through the trouble of marking it important, and then even asking for a return receipt. Bottom of the list! I haven't had that probably for 10 years Oh it happens every day in my email program Just because you never answer your email...I'm very good at answering emails You don't even answer MY email what are you talking about?

3:10:10 No, because on Thunderbird which I've been using to great success. Thunderbird! Um... Actually it shows up as red and then it's very annoying so I just delete right now Oh I see okay well that's no good And finally disable that coloring And finally if you are a fan of making coffee with ground coffee So in a filter or the way I do it which is with um In the French press put a dash of salt on top of your coffee It not only reduces bitterness, but it also brings prosperity to your family. Yeah them some day is some dangerously good tips John C DeVore with the tip of the day He's gonna tell us what he would do in every possible way John just a tip! There you go

3:11:13 We got to work on it. The jingles are better than the tips so far, but we're working on it. Had some other tips But I decided against them just gonna go with these tips Thank you all very much trolls for tuning in I wouldn't go away if I were you because coming right up on the stream We have that Larry show that Larry who donates to this show He's the one with the big pipes the big heavy voice And he will be unmasking demons on today's show. Woah woah, ooh! Uh we got some end of show mixes Professor Jay Jones winds it all up for us with uh and he is from China

3:11:53 So be careful before they roust you and send you away or back, or whatever it is. And where are the people doing songs? John wanted to know we need more parody songs Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody's wondering why we haven't got good end of show mixes anymore. I'm John C. Dvorak. Remember us at noagendadonations.com or for the old schoolers dvorak.org slash na Until Thursday everybody have a great Sunday adios mofos ahooey hooey and such

3:12:33 Telling the truth is a bad idea. Telling the truth is a difficult problem. You're gonna get vaccinated? Telling the truth can be dangerous! So you want to work for us until you get vaccinated? How dare you?! When you make it difficult for people in their lives... They lose their ideological bullshit. Telling the truth can be dangerous business. Oh, is that brilliant? When you make it difficult for people in their lives They lose their ideological bullshit. Children in school were put in plastic bubbles, forced to wear masks and muzzled in their schools. Telling the truth is a scary predicament

3:13:27 While you and all your cronies get paid from Big Pharma. How dare you? You're repulsive, evil science. Telling the truth can be dangerous business. Honest and popular don't go hand in hand. Are you from the county or something? If you admit that you should play the accordion... No one will hire you in a rocket, baby. The sooner you learn that the longer we're gonna live in this world! Is that brilliant? This is your own email You just keep flapping Effective at keeping out virus When you make it difficult for people and their lives For crimes against humanity But you don't understand meaning respect They lose their ideological bullshit While you and all your cronies get paid from Big Pharma

3:14:14 our hearts out. How dare you? And if we're lucky, we'll know that's just a play. You belong in prison Dr Fauci. Telling the truth is a bad idea. Telling the truth can change your business. You want it popular before hand and hand. If you admit that you could play the accordion no one will hire Children in school were put in plastic bubbles. Oh, is that brilliant? Everybody but me has an AIPAC person It's like your babysitter your AIPAC babysitter Like the wall tape sticks to the wall Does that mean an AIPAC person? And they've got your cell number

3:15:05 That's wrong what APAC is doing to you. Let me talk to my APAC person Has the congressman been to Israel? They don't have a Germany dude I'll talk to my APEC guy and see if I can get him to Is there any other Republican who has your views on this? Why would they want to tell their constituents, I wish I could vote with you today. Every member has something like this firmly embedded in AIPAC I'll talk to my AIPAC person. And they've got your cell number? Is there any other Republican who has your use on this? Everybody but me has an AIPAC person!

3:15:54 It's like your babysitter, your AIPAC babysitter. They don't have a Germany dude! That's wrong what AIPAC is doing to you Let me talk to my AIPAC person Everybody but me has an AIPAC person I'll talk to my AIPAC guy and see if I can get him to... The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A Wow