Episode 1660 · Thursday, 16 May 2024

Doom Goblin

A violent assassination attempt on Robert Fico and Antony Blinken’s tone-deaf guitar performance in Ukraine highlight a week of geopolitical chaos and domestic AI skepticism.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 8m listen | 48 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1660

About this episode

Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico survived an assassination attempt in Handlova after being shot multiple times by a 71-year-old writer. The suspect reportedly targeted the leader for his populist and pro-Russian stances, marking a violent escalation in European political tensions. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Antony Blinken faced intense criticism for performing Neil Young songs at a Kiev bar while Russian glide bombs struck targets near Kharkiv.

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman debuted the GPT-4o model, drawing backlash for a flirtatious and over-sexualized AI persona that mimics human observation through cameras. In the United States, Nielsen IQ data reveals a 21% surge in raw milk sales despite CDC warnings of bird flu contamination and Dr. Celine Gounder comparing the product to raw sewage. The Biden administration simultaneously announced 100% tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, effectively adopting trade policies previously established by Donald Trump. Senator Bob Menendez entered his federal corruption trial facing allegations of accepting gold bars as bribes for the Egyptian government.

Greta Thunberg earned the moniker of a miserable little doom goblin following her protests at the Eurovision Song Contest. At Duke University, a small group of students attempted a walkout during Jerry Seinfeld’s commencement address, though the comedian received a standing ovation from the remaining 20,000 attendees. Shirley Schultz, a 102-year-old volunteer and cancer survivor, credits her longevity to single malt scotch and a positive outlook.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Saskatoon Relocation and Personal Health Anecdotes

The discussion opens with a humorous suggestion for everyone to move to Saskatoon. Personal anecdotes follow regarding physical activity and health at age 40, contrasting memories of pulling apart computers on television with the lifestyle of a rock star.

saskatoon· daryl· computers· rock and roll· health

00:00 Everybody should move to Saskatoon! I'll have you know, I was rocking and rolling all night and partying every single day when i was 40.

00:46 You weren't? When you were 40, I remember you when you were 40. Don't I? No! You were pulling apart computers on the TV Yeah, well. That's not rock and rolling all night whatever that means and partying every day which is which presumes by the wording that you're better...you never get any sleep. It's bullcrap! Hey hello! I'm listening to you and Daryl singing along with that song. I couldn't know how bad it was. His name is now Daryl? Oh Daryl. You and Daryl and his other brother Daryl

01:28 You crack me up John C. Dvorak oh Man, well I feel are you okay? You knock it drop this clip sheet Oh No And it is it's a literal sheet isn't it as a clipboard tell me it's a clipboard no Clipboards sorry just piece of paper. Well, speaking of pulling computers apart I had such a great week! I loved Monday and Tuesday was so funny as these numbnut nimrods in Silicon Valley try to convince us that AI is great it's great everybody it's just great I'm gonna tell you right now I'm going short AI and long on people

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

Google I.O. Event and Generative AI Marketing

A 45-second supercut of the Google I.O. event features CEO Sundar Pichai and other executives repeatedly using the term AI. The presentation is characterized as a repetitive marketing effort by Silicon Valley to convince the public of the technology's utility, though the hosts remain skeptical of its practical value.

google i.o.· sundar pichai· generative ai· silicon valley· toolkit

02:17 This is... here, uh would you like a 45 second overview of the Google I.O event with Sundar Pichai and all of his executives? Yes actually i was gonna get this clip. I'm glad you got it. AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI AI And that's the power of generative AI

03:09 AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, toolkit. AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, generative AI, generative AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI Was there anything that you heard of that you thought might be useful in your life? That Google presented? Anything? No but I saw a report that was kind of frightening Oh? Did you get a clip of said report? No no I didn't have a clip and I had to explain it Actually, I'll get a clip and put it on the next show. Okay? Well then I have one more clip here because not to be just more who put that together you didn't know I did no No that's been circulating now a bit circularly It's a good clip is a great clip That's what when people do that then you know that no one's buying it You know instead of oh Oh so good. Whoa but now but now not to be outdone open AI OpenAI Sam Altman's

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

OpenAI GPT-4o Demo and Sexualized AI Personalities

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is discussed in relation to a new GPT-4o demonstration featuring an AI that purportedly reasons by observing its environment through a camera. The AI's voice and personality are criticized for being "creepy" and "over-sexualized," drawing comparisons to a flirtatious version of Siri.

openai· sam altman· gpt-4o· reasoning· siri

04:03 What's that cult he was in again? What was that sex cult those guys were in. Yeah, it was... I forget the name of that sex cult It was a sex cult! I think it still is a sex cult And you can still win business Yeah, yeah, I think so Who breaks up a sex cult? Nobody Effective... no Especially not if your said leader of said sex cult No, you got to made Effective altruism We're going to save the world with math So they came out with a demo which was, as I've distilled this, a classic, classic Silicon Valley demo. Classic! So there's a guy sitting in the room... Well let me explain what that means to the public. Oh please do. All BS. Scam all the time it's unbelievable

04:57 But now, because of this demo... and I looked up the definition of the word reason to reason. So when AI can reason it would be like the AI would see me sitting here in my room and would presume, oh I see a microphone. I see a mixer. I see you got headphones on are you about to do a podcast? See that's reasoning but their open AI is now effectively a creepy somewhat over sexualized spokes model

05:45 who got on my nerves very quickly. It's kind of like Siri with a personality and so here is the guy sitting in a room, then he is holding up the camera and the open AI is having a conversation with him. Hey how it going? Hey there, it's going great. How about you? I see you're rocking an open AI hoodie. Nice choice! What's up with that ceiling though? Are you in a cool industry-style office or something?" Well can you take a guess at what I might be doing based on what I'm showing you here? Stop. I can't tell which gay guy is the AI and which gay guy is the person. The kind of female... They sound very similar they both are

06:32 Affectations, let's put it that way. Yes I love the...I see you're rocking a cool open AI hoodie now if i held that camera... So that's the AI talking there? Yeah because the AI is reasoning you see its reasoning It's not rigged this demo at all! No of course not! Its reasoning and we continue Hmm from what I can see it looks like you're in some kind of recording or production setup with those lights Tripods and possibly a mic. It seems like you might be gearing up to shoot a video, or maybe even a live stream Yeah Why wouldn't the AI say podcast?

07:13 Or, um... television show. But no it's some kind of demonstration or live stream perhaps? Hmmmm.... Or maybe even a live stream. Yeah good point. In fact we've got a new announcement to make! Or how about are you gonna send me a dick pic?! No no the reasoning is smart okay let's see what he's in fact about to do Announcements are always a big deal. Judging by the setup, it looks like it's going to be quite the professional production Is this announcement related to OpenAI perhaps? It is! Oh wow This thing is so smart He's like wait a minute You rockin' the OpenAI hoodie you've got video and lights could this be something about open AI? Is this annoucement related to OpenAI perhaps?

08:05 And in fact, what if I were to say that you're related to the announcement or that you are the announcement? Me? The announcement is about me?! Okay this is where it went creepy for me. Because phony laughs weird kind of it's lightly Sexualized which is kind of creepy me you're talking about little old me This is like somebody on a microphone someplace Hold on us back gets better. Well color me intrigued I Are you about to reveal something about AI? Or more specifically...

08:56 This is ridiculous. This is how good it's gotten, John! It's reasoning...it's rea- Comic Strip Blogger thinks everyone will be dead in five years. All that's gonna be running is this. Feel something about AI? Or more specifically about me as part of OpenAI You've got me on the edge of my...well I don't really have a seat but you get the idea Oh, and it's funny. It's doing material! It's doing schtick! What's the big news? Yeah we've got a new model that can interact with the world through audio vision and texts oh man they have demos they literally have a blind dude in Times Square holding up his phone tell me what I'm not seeing I mean come on its embarrassing at this point

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Venture Capital Podcasts and AI Product Viability

Sam Altman's appearance on a venture capital podcast is noted as part of a broader trend of VC firms hosting their own media. The discussion questions the business model of AI companies, suggesting that while AI can assist with basic coding tasks, it lacks the creative depth required for professional software engineering.

sam altman· venture capital· kleiner perkins· coding· exit strategy

09:49 He's embarrassing. And Sam Altman, I tried to clip he did an hour-long interview with one of his venture capital partners on their podcast and this is the thing these days you have a VC company and then you have... Well yeah well this is not just these days it has been going on for years But if your podcaster in residence I'm going to interview Sam about his podcasting residence. Oh, yeah podcaster in residence for sure Okay, what do you do? I'm a podcast and residents. What do you do? I sit here it's an exit strategy Yeah Hello Adam Curry John C Dvorak here we are podcasters in residence for Kleiner Perkins Let's talk about some green tech everybody so Here's my question

10:36 Because you ask a GPT-4o, little o how it will actually make money. I would like to ask that question and when will it make my email better? You want to impress me let me run this thing on my email so it knows what I want to see It pops things to the top, it learns, it has machine learning, it can reason how to lie when I don't really wanna respond to somebody Do that and I'll be impressed That's a good product you just described. Of course, that is the product! That is the killer app... but no. No. Instead- Of course not I can't do anything let's face it But no You're rocking a cool open AI hoodie there. People..but y'know I got emails from people I still kind of respect like the former New York banker

11:32 The former New York banker, he says look at this man it's really getting somewhere now. And he sends me a link to this demo I'm like are you kidding me? It's getting somewhere! Really gettin' somewhere Well he got suckered by the demo that demo is obviously a fake Yeah...I mean we've done these demos John Now mind you, we could be in Kuala Lumpur. I mean... with Mark Cantor. I've done the demos! It's how it works in Silicon Valley But okay let's go raise a trillion dollars We need more money When this thing comes spinning apart is going to be hilarious to watch and it will

12:13 I thought you were always does always does yeah although you think this so this is a real cycle like the cycle well I have watched this over and over yeah and it's always happens at some point it sticks. Yeah but what sticking is... Well, what's not it's not I mean I'm first thinking of this could stick I think some aspects of it will but With stuff like what you just played is disconcerting. It's I can't say the word right, it's disheartening. Yeah but it's disheartening that people are oh this great bit here we go its reasoning its smart. That's the way those demos work and we've seen this over the years they're very effective at buffalo-ing the public

12:59 And if you ask anyone, I mean it's actually pretty good at helping people code. Okay but it's not going to replace coders because writing code is like poetry prose you know this it's not yeah okay a little simple program sure You can replace some widgets in the organization but not people who actually code software as the creative endeavor that really is you know, putting design in the back of their mind as they're doing it. No! It's like disco. It's like disco of code. Like it's programmatic. Okay well yeah some of that is good but anybody who has spent any time trying to get any AI to sort through any data... Oh I can upload a Google spreadsheet to it. Google what does it called? What is the Google doc

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

AI Debunking of Conspiracy Theories Study

A pre-print study suggests that engaging in dialogues with AI can reduce belief in conspiracy theories by approximately 20%. The research claims these effects are durable over two months and can even impact individuals with deeply entrenched conspiratorial worldviews regarding topics like the moon landing.

conspiracy theories· fda· moon landing· robust evidence· psychological intervention

13:49 Google Calc. Calc? Is that what it is? VisiCalc! I can upload my VisiCalc to it and you know but by the time you're done and by the time you're done correcting, it always has 20% error rate and then you probably could have got more done if you just did it yourself You know, it just doesn't... Sheets. There you go thank you Google sheets. Sheets. It's the sheets man! It's totally sheets Then the former New York banker did send me this pre-print Durably reducing conspiracy beliefs through dialogues with AI. Oh, yes! They've done a study... So that'll do it. They've done a study across two experiments we find robust evidence That's better than no evidence. Robust evidence that the debunking conversation with the AI reduced belief in conspiracy theories by roughly 20%

14:48 Oh, 20%? What conspiracy theories are we talking about? Oh moon landing and stuff. Now the effect did not decay over two months time so it stuck! It was consistently observed across a wide range of different conspiracy theories and occurred even for participants whose conspiracy beliefs were deeply entrenched and have great importance to their identities. That'd be you. Yeah totally What? 20% is a small number it seems to me. It's roughly so, it's probably 18 or 17. Furthermore although the dialogues were focused on a single conspiracy theory the intervention spilled over to reduce beliefs in unrelated conspiracies indicating a general increase in conspiratorial worldview as well as increasing intentions to challenge others who espouse their chosen conspiracy

15:43 These findings highlight that even many people who strongly believe in seemingly fact-resistant conspiritual beliefs can change their minds in the face of sufficient evidence. There's hope for me, there is hope for me yet with AI I hope that groovy chick in the openAI system will talk me off the ledge next time It's amazing! That's where we're at Who needs anything? We don't need anything Yeah, you ran into a brick wall with that. Yeah I know so it's okay. Sorry. I should have stopped earlier. You're right Now the big I think there's a couple of big stories out there. I see you have a multi-parter So I'm going to lead you into it I've gonna let you loose and then I might come back and I want to close I'm gonna close the deal on this one Okay? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah because it's not goin away

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Federal Funding for Bird Flu Mitigation in Livestock

The US federal government announced new funding to mitigate avian influenza risks among livestock, specifically targeting the dairy industry. Dr. Jen Ashton of ABC News reports on the allocation of funds for PPE and the disposal of impacted milk, while the hosts criticize the use of the term "lactating cattle" instead of "cows."

bird flu· ppe· cdc· dr. jen ashton· lactating cattle

16:41 It's bird flu. Let's talk medical news if we can with America's favorite doctor, the US federal government... America's favorite doctor! ...is announcing new funding to help mitigate the risks of the bird flu outbreak among livestock Yeah and when-we've covered this before We've been talking about it for a while now When you have a spreading pathogen like avian influenza You want to try to mitigate and contain that spread And this is what the federal government is really targeting The industry in agriculture Let me take you through It's a spreading pathogen. They are pledging financial support for PPE for employees of affected... Okay, now listen carefully! All the words we've learned

17:22 PPE, pathogen. So they're going to give PPE to people who might be exposed to the non-existent threat of bird flu in cows. Let me take you through it. They are pledging financial support for PPE for employees of affected herds because we know that now there are at least nine states involved with these infected herds. Funding for heat treatment disposal of impacted milk because that's the only biosecure way of disposing of milk that has been exposed or infected, compensation of producers for the loss of milk production is obviously important and

18:01 they need to work with the states to limit the movement of lactating cattle because again from the agriculture and industry standpoint you really need to protect the people who are closest to these infected animals at this point. Why did he say that? It was a cow! Say cow, why lactating animal? Lactating cattle it just sounds good. Alright we got one more... No that plays into birthing person and all these other things. Lactating cattle. Now they're moving it over to the animal world. It's not a cow! Lactating cattle is a cow, hello? It's not a dairy cow lactating cattle. Animals that lactate with four legs

18:44 So now this is it's off the hook and it was very important what's being said here, but where'd that come from? By the way That's ABC with dr. Jen Ashton America's favorite doctor Oh, she should be you should be fired Well hold on I got another clip and I'm gonna let you loose on your on your raw milk clips Of course haven't heard them We never listen to each other's clips But I saw him so I know we're gonna are you gonna fill the donut hole here So it's very important to note that they, as I predicted they're talking about culling herds. Oh no there'll be compensation this is what they've been doing with ranchers and farmers for decades in the United States it's how you get everyone in control It's like hey don't worry if your crops fail or your herd has to get culled because of...I'm sorry your lactating cattle needs to be

19:30 called because it has some mythical bird flu virus in it that we've detected somewhere with PCR spun up to 80 cycles. Don't worry, we'll take care of your farmers." It's called bird flu but cattle so it's affecting multiple animals this is the question I know so many people are going to have How do I keep from this affecting me? Well listen, I've had conversations with senior officials. Oh how is this going to affect me? Is it gonna affect me? Can can i get the bird flu? This is the question I know some people are gonna have...how do I keep from this affecting me? Well listen I've had conversations with senior officials at the CDC. Right now, they are considering the risk to the overall US population to be low but who is at higher risk? The people who work in these industries so right now you should try to remove yourself from any animal that definitely appears to be ill if you're talking about birds or cattle and then again i think we need to realize that... Hold on stop! Stop the clip!

20:28 Do they have any evidence or even one dead cow that died from bird flu that they can document? There is no lactating animal that has died. The cows are fine! The cows like, have you seen the cows are with their tongue just like a normal cow? Definitely appears to be ill if you're talking about birds or cattle. Appears to be ill she said. Appears to be ill. And then again I think we need to... She is not a veterinarian! She's practicing veterinary medicine without a license here as far as I'm concerned. Definitely appears to be ill if you're talking about birds or cattle and then again, I think we need to realize that it starts with containing amongst our agriculture and that's what we're seeing the federal government do right now. All right so federal government stepping in John now of course the main culprit where it all starts where were all worried were worried were worried were worried raw milk whereas you would say milk

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

NPR Report on Raw Milk Sales in Texas

An NPR report investigates the ease of purchasing raw milk in Texas despite FDA warnings. The segment highlights the "honor system" used at some Texas farms and mocks the conversational broadcasting style used by NPR reporters during the segment.

npr· raw milk· texas· fda· honor system

21:25 Milk is the Midwestern way, Chicago way to pronounce it. Raw milk! But milk I can say milk yeah you can now this is we've been clipping this for a while they're just going after raw milk like there's no tomorrow and so to pounded home You know, they were doing it kind of in an oblique way in the previous couple shows clips but NPR to pounded home. They're pretty much gonna just talk nothing but raw milk in these few clips. I got six of them, they're short but there and they need to be interrupted a lot so that's why I chopped it up but here we go raw milk BS. And the reminder and a disclaimer elitist voices of America this is NPR

22:14 or PBS. The Food and Drug Administration has renewed warnings against raw milk. Now unpasteurized or raw milk is still being sold in many states, and advocates for raw milk say the federal government has always opposed its consumption, so why should they listen now? Well here to talk more about this whole situation are MPR's Ping Wang and Kiera Eisner. Hey to both of you!

23:09 I will present the correct example and no longer step on your clips. I apologize. Our NPR's Ping Wong and Kira Eisner, hey to both of you. Hey Elsa! Hey! So Kira, I want to start with you because you went to Texas last week and you were here on this mission... What is it with this hey? But this is NPR doing this. And here's Elsa so-and-so, hey hey hey! What do you say? What is this? Oh oh... What kind of broadcasting is this? Well it goes along with the pronoun thing It's like you can't say hi lady Or hello No no hello You can't do that Welcome to the show No oh no This is just hey Hey! They're a family at NPR I think they probably... A memo went out

24:00 We sound too serious, guys. When we do our handovers let's make it sound like we're a family Hey! Don't you think that's a memo? These... I think there was a memo but when you deal with family what do you say hey to your family? Hey friends this is the thing. Hey friends is what a sales car, used car sales guy says No this is what millennials, ah Gen Z This is what Joe Rogan says. Hey friends, he says hey friends at the start of every single one of his ads. Hey friends! It's kind of a generic non-threatening because you can't say hey guys oops You can't say hate people oops So it it is the...it is a safe way to address a crowd. Hey friends

24:53 It is close next to... Not Ladies and Germs, which is my favorite wig. No no no. Hey Comrade. It's a follow-on to Hey Comrade I think it's a... Hey Comrade! Yes you nailed it yeah it's hey comrade yeah okay let's just listen to that again hey comrades that's what it is It's code for comrade. Well, here to talk more about this whole situation are NPRs Ping Wong and Kiera Eisner Hey to both of you. Hey Elsa. Hey hey Elsa. Hey hey So Kiera I want to start with you because you went out to Texas last week And you were here on this mission to find raw milk and test it for this virus What did you find? I found it was quite easy to purchase in Texas its legal there

25:35 and all I had to do was drive up to these farms and purchase the milk directly from them. In some cases there was a store attendant who I paid the money too, in other cases there wasn't even anybody there! I just opened the door to the fridge grabbed the milk left cash in a drop box...and came out Wow, Texas is in as out of control man. You just walk up and grab the milk and you're good to go Whoa they don't quite make it there I think they're somewhat baffled we have this in Washington state It's called self-service honor system friend some runners on our arms They're called honor farm honor farms. That's a good thing

26:16 and they're all over the place, and you just go up there. Now if there was a California they would not only not pay they would steal the box of money and the refrigerator... They'd both be gone! As long as it's under $950 in value it's okay comrade So I found it was she seemed a bit non...she was, I think she was baffled by the fact that you could just go buy something without having to see somebody and yet you had to do it by honor. Hold on isn't that how California shopping works? You just go in and take it? Yeah well nowadays

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

Personal Anecdote Regarding Bird Flu at a Belgian Castle

A host shares a story about owning a castle in Belgium equipped with a helipad and a family of black swans. During a previous bird flu outbreak, local authorities culled neighboring poultry, but the host argues the disease is no more dangerous to humans than a standard seasonal flu.

belgium· black swans· bird flu· swine flu· castle

26:55 Okay. All right, next clip in one of those farms in San Antonio I met another woman who was buying milk her name was Cheryl Moss rum and she said she's been drinking raw milk on and off for the past 15 to 20 years because I think the world is typically a much better quality right now we're just kind of watching this situation and that was in Texas which was zero for this outbreak ground zero yes you Texas are ground zero It was the Meat Mafia boys who gave me my most recent jug of raw milk. Oh, you got some? Oh it is...it's almost like eggnog! It's so good. It's pretty tasty. It's eggnog! Basically if you like eggnog, you will like raw milk. Scientists can tell that's where bird flu jumped to cows last December and kicked off this whole outbreak Wait, so can people get bird flu from drinking

27:51 raw milk? Wait, wait. Writing from the script ping like what do we know? Emphasis? Yes. In bold letters with italics. Thinking raw milk? Ping like what do we know about the risks Well, it's all theoretical and the answer is maybe but honestly health officials just don't know so they don't know from the FDA. We heard from him in the intro He's very clear that the agency doesn't recommend drinking raw milk But he also says that there are a lot of open questions I Just want to remind everybody because I know that we were doing this show when this happened think we were what? Were you doing the show when I had the castle

28:34 No, I don't think so. No it was a post castle. So pre-show...I had the castle in Belgium good times and we had tons of... You owned a castle? I owned a castle yes! That's how you rented it?! As I said good times no no no Those that's got overhead issues. Yeah, because you've got to get a guy to do the outside. You've got someone on the inside and then a third person to make sure those people aren't ripping off now is bad and it's all in Belgium where everything is complicated. But anyway we had black swans, a family of black swans with and the mother and father always stay there which was nice. The you know, if Swan and then Swans will come up and they'll actually walk into the living room sometimes. What? Oh yeah!

29:21 Oh yeah, swans are brazen. You left the door open? Yes! And this swan come in he's like you got something to eat? Yeah, I was swans dude when i when i this was Dude?! Dude, I had a helipad This is good times... Yeah, I know you had a helipad right so but I would come in So how much money were you burning oh I burned it all I burned at all on castles and helicopters I burn literally burn my money in the air so I'd come flying in your coming into a slow hover 300 feet. There goes the black swan chop-chop-chop! No, they would both come flying toward me and split off like a top gun. They would split off to the right and the left it was... And they would always do that. They will come and say hello to me. Anyway so we had tons of ducks

30:08 And then there was bird flu. And the bird flu was bad and they were culling chickens all over the place, in fact it came into like a three kilometer radius and it was right around the castle because we were pretty sure that we're gonna come and cull our ducks and our swans! I was kind of ready for some kind of confrontation but that didn't happen, it stayed contained And one of the guys, you know one of my neighbors who had chickens he got bird flu and He would come over to the house. He's like how are you doing? I got the bird flu and it was like a bad flu! And he lived we just stayed home for a day or two when in you know took some Took some Advil and he got over it and he lived he did not die It was the authorities that killed all his chickens You know they were still tasty

31:03 So anyway, long story short this is not a dangerous disease for humans. No more dangerous than the flu! Remember swine flu? I had swine flu. Remember, I got swine flu! I lived! You got swine flu...I lived! Okay back to NPR. You're pressing your luck with this conversation There's not a tremendous amount of studies showing the impactivity related to this virus and raw milk products The one person who is for sure gotten bird sick Did you hear what he just... Why are they banning it and making a big fuss? They've got no zero. Nothing! Evidence So here is my story reiterated by the experts There's not a tremendous amount of studies showing the impactivity related to this virus and raw milk products

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

CDC Listeriosis Outbreak Data and Raw Milk Safety

The discussion examines a CDC list of listeriosis outbreaks, noting that recent cases are linked to queso fresco, peaches, leafy greens, and deli meats rather than raw milk. The hosts argue that government agencies unfairly target raw milk producers to avoid the labor-intensive inspections required for the industry.

cdc· listeriosis· queso fresco· raw milk· food safety

31:54 The one person who's for sure gotten bird flu so far was a dairy worker in Texas and he was dealing with sick cows. He probably got exposed to sprays of infected milk and manure. Oh no! Birth of poop dog! As far as health authorities can tell, no one has gotten bird food from drinking raw milk yet. Yet? But we're hopeful! Food from drinking raw milk yet so what they're leaning on in their recommendation is the fact that people have gotten sick from other things in raw milk like salmonella and E. coli and that's why they don't think people should drink it No one has gotten sick from the raw milk They are just saying that

32:32 So here we go. Now the thing that bothered me about where I cut it off there is because the thing about raw milk that is problematic and it comes up if these dairies aren't doing their job, and its listeriosis not...and they don't even mention that And so listeriosis, which also shows up every place else too. There's a CDC page I sent you a copy to put in the show notes. It is in the show notes! But people should look on this page as you check it out and read the outbreaks of listeriosis that are on that sidebar on the left and I'm going just reading a few of them. Here's a reporting timeline

33:13 Listeria outbreak linked to queso fresco and cotija cheese. Listeria outbreak linked to peaches, nectarines and plums. Listeria outbreak linked to ice cream. Listeria outbreak leaked to leafy greens, listeria outbreak linked to enoki mushrooms, listeria outbreak linked to deli meat and cheese. My favorite next! And on and on and there's no... The next one! Linked to brie and camembert! Who knows? Yeah, brie and camembert. And packaged salads produced by Dole. Where is the raw milk on this list?! Where is it!?

33:51 It's not there. Here's one the outbreak of listeria infections linked to hard-boiled eggs Yeah, it's not there it's not there on this is not on this and that that is the CDC page they're referring to It's what they're referring to here. Yeah, as a side note... So what is the hang up? You know Mimi I said it on the last show Mimi claims this because that it required the kinds of inspections raw milk dairies require and then what they have to do is too much work for the USDA, the CDC and everybody else They don't want to do it They just don't want to do it so they just assume you boil everything and send it out to the public and screw the public if even they wanna drink raw milk because it's probably healthier

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

WIC Program Nutrition and Raw Milk Health Benefits

A producer's anecdote describes the nutritional struggles of a family on the WIC program, claiming that government-provided supplements like PediaSure caused blood sugar spikes and behavioral issues. The story concludes that switching to grass-fed meat and raw milk resolved the children's health problems.

wic· pediasure· raw milk· zinc deficiency· nutrition

34:38 Or it's claimed to be because it has more enzymes and everything natural. Back when, so I got a boots on the ground from producer Crystal and she said you know we were very poor for awhile and but i was able to get some food and some WIC food program money that's the women infant children. So it is a poverty program like Food Stamps here in Texas And the government supplemental food program for low income families now So they weren't poor enough for food stamps, but they were poor enough to get the WIC. The only high protein they were allowed to get was...the only meat you are allowed to get was canned fish

35:24 Yeah, tuna. Everything was high in sugar We also had so much juice and frozen juice we didn't use it because I couldn't imagine giving my child juice at every meal So their firstborn was basically a vegetarian but then became zinc deficient underweight of course WIC gave some PD assure And then my son started having 40 minute tantrums. He was absent, you know like absent minded his blood sugar were spiking from the PediaSure So finally they got to a better place financially we're very happy and she says I started putting the kids on grass-fed meat raw milk pasture raised eggs and we've never had a problem since The kids look beautiful so there you go it's the up whenever the government says something run the opposite way

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Demographics of Raw Milk Consumers and Food Freedom

NPR reports that less than 2% of the US adult population drinks raw milk, identifying two primary groups: long-term health-conscious voters and a newer "food freedom" movement born from COVID-19 government distrust. The hosts suggest that the dairy industry lobbies the media to disparage raw milk in favor of pasteurized products.

food freedom· trump voters· fda· soy milk· covid-19

36:17 Run the other direction! They want us, they either want us dead. I don't know what their problem is with the problem with these agencies that they're corrupted Yes They've been captured by various industries and they're just corrupted There's nothing there's no two ways about it And this milk thing is ridiculous So let's go on with these tips Your point Let's just stick a pin in that They are corrupted because they are all for industry They're not for your health CDC is not for your health They are for industry Remember COVID? And are people who drink raw milk actually taking this advice? Oh, laugh tale. It doesn't seem like it also. Okay. We reached out to a few... But I do! I sit at home and drink my pasteurized milks. It doesn't seem like it also. Okay. We reached out to a few raw milk groups and they say that the customers have been asking a lot of questions but demand seems to be holding steady. How popular is raw milk anyway? Like I don't think I have ever tasted it yet.

37:16 She's never tasted raw milk, this woman. And she's a reporter and she's reporting on the story? Isn't it something like you'd want to do that?" I mean, we've reported on Adderall. Why? Because i've tried it by Vance tried it tried everything! I mean we want to know about LSD We go to John C Dvorak. We've all tried it. We're real reporters. I've never had raw milk. I'm afraid Is raw milk anyway like I don't think I have ever tasted it Yeah well there's not actually a lot of... Wait stop stop the laugh tale She doesn't think she's ever tasted it Does she not even know what she's up to on a day-to-day basis and she's drinking stuff? I don't know. I don't remember. I was so hammered, man! I don't remember what it was. It is raw milk anyway like i don't think i have ever tasted it yeah well there's not actually a lot of raw milk drinkers less than two percent of the adult population in the U.S according to an FDA study from a couple years ago you know what it is six million people these women

38:16 They drink soy milk and nut sap. That's why they drink nuts, almond milk. Yes that's the mugs out but the ones who do drink it are very passionate about it and they usually fall into two camps so there's the Trump voters original raw milk supporters who've been around for decades they've long wanted access to local healthy food And more recently the raw milk movement has picked up people that want less government regulation food freedom So we've watched this industry for a long time say that this food freedom was boosted by COVID when distrust of the government and government scientists really grew. Ah There it is, food freedom! They must be Republicans Food Freedom. Distrust of the science. No imagine that? Food Freedom

39:03 And I'm looking at the trolls, and the trolls have good points as always. But you know just to think that the government wants to kill you and weaken your immune system if only it were that easy what John said is correct they are captured they are working for industry Industry says we can't have this We need to sell our pasteurized milk on nutsat products That is what... These are big lobbies So that's why they get these reports put out and get, and they're clearly feeding the news media. Wait until you hear my CBS clips. And by the way I want to mention this is about a 15 minute report blasting raw milk. I just chipped out a bunch about five six minutes of it. You have chipped well my friend. Chipping away! What was what clip four? Yeah we are on five now. We're on five ready

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Failed Bird Flu Testing of Raw Milk Samples

An NPR reporter attempted to have raw milk from Texas farms tested for bird flu at a USDA-authorized lab, but the lab refused after the farms denied permission. The hosts speculate that the testing was actually abandoned due to high costs or budgetary constraints at NPR rather than farm interference.

npr· usda· bird flu· pcr test· texas farms

39:54 What about testing? I mean, it sounds like there's all this fear and people are saying no that's just speculation. But it seems like knowing whether there is actually the virus inside the raw milk supply would help clear this up so Kiara what do we know about testing? Why does she keep laughing about it?! I don't know! It's weird... These people these Republicans these Trump voters they're drinking they're drinking bird flu virus You're right, Elsa. It would really help to know if and how much virus is out there in the raw milk supply being sold now to people How much virus is being sold to people? Wow! NPR needs to be shut down

40:36 It does need to be shut down. It would kind of hurt our show, but it needs to be shut down. But testing doesn't seem to be happening regularly and that data is really hard to come by. That's why we tried to find our own. But when I brought raw milk that I bought from those four Texas farms to one of the few labs authorized by the USDA to test milk for bird flu The lab insisted on calling each of the four farms first for permission, though the USDA has confirmed the agency doesn't require permission from farms to perform the test. None of the farms gave the lab permission to run the tests they told the lab they were aware of what a non-negative result would do for their business so the lab refused to test our samples. Oh that's suspicious!

41:24 Non-negative non negative test that could be bad for us. Oh, we don't okay now I as a lab rat in my yes your day your day Yes, I don't believe this that they wouldn't test it? I don't believe it either. The ranchers don't want to test it, like get off my ranch! So you go to the supposed USDA approved... Bullcrap. Go to a different lab there are labs that can test for this. Abbott Labs! You know what guys, I was thinking about this what was going on here and her excuse is well you know they couldn't do it

42:02 She's a reporter working for NPR. She has the budget they went to the lab this my guess okay They went to the lab and I said yeah, we can test for this it's gonna cost you $1,500 a test Or 2,500 these are not going to be a cheap test to test For bird flu in raw milk from an official lab that gets government money Yeah, yeah, they're gonna say well. Yeah here's its gonna cost you 6,500 bucks to do these tests Or more or more and she says I haven't got a budget for that. They only gave me $500

42:40 You know, because advertising underwriting whatever you want to call it is down. It's down so we don't have the money for it yes So she comes up with this cock and bull story To get out of the fact that she didn't have the cash or they didn't have the resources to do these tests Well no, the standard test of 25 cycles PCR That's 500 bucks but you really want the 45 cycle Don't you? Yeah thats gonna cost ya extra Well, it's even beyond that because they have to be equipped. It just...it's not like testing for sodium in cereal. It's not like a potassium test. It's not like a simple test. Bird flu virus

43:23 This is an inexpensive test, no matter how you're going to look at it. So she just dropped the ball on this and they couldn't do it the way you would have done if you'd done it right. She lied! Would you like some free publicity for this lab? We'll give you a big write-up and we'll promote you... If you just do the damn test for free. Hey, It's good for your exposure. It's good for your brand. Good for your brand if we do that So she doesn't get the test done and the whole thing falls through. So then, so the whole reason for this report which began if you listen to beginning was that grab some raw milk from those Texas Nairdu wells and test it. And she couldn't get that job done. So this continues on as a little discussion. And then it ends with this clip which is the eye roller clip that just like okay let's just make stuff up

44:12 and try to frighten the public. If drinking milk with a virus is an easy way for people to get infected, then there are other worries Like what Kira? You gotta have the rustle of the paper as she turns the page on the script Like what? Kiera, and there are other worries. Like what Kiera? So the worry is that if influenza viruses from two different species like a human and bird species infect one person at the same time, a new kind of virus could be created that would be more contagious than people. That could lead to a pandemic

44:50 The more animals the flu spreads to and the more people it spreads to, the greater the chances that could happen. That's why even though the official assessment is that risk to public is low federal health officials are urging people to be cautious and not drink raw milk So we're back to wet market in Wuhan? Is this what this basically? Are they trying to remind us that actually happens somehow? That you eat infected animal then get pathogen Because that's what it sounds like they're trying to do. They don't know what, this is flailing This is a terrible report and all it is is don't drink raw milk And nobody who drinks raw milk is going to listen to them because they usually have a trusted dairy You're not randomly drinking it and you just drink from one source usually that you can trust There are only few of them because there's too much work to make the stuff to be honest about

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Agency Capture and the CIA

In an interview with Ben Shapiro, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discusses the "corporate capture" of federal agencies like the FDA and CDC. Kennedy claims that high-level officials at the EPA took orders from Monsanto and recounts a conversation with Mike Pompeo regarding the inability to "clean up" the CIA.

robert f. kennedy jr· ben shapiro· fda· cia· mike pompeo

45:46 and they're just trying to dissuade everyone. This is a piss poor job of promoting, and this is going to continue I don't know what they're doing getting nowhere with this nonsense No no they have a new tactic we'll witness that in the clips from CBS but I want to take a little detour It's almost like an entremont or no, what's in the middle of the meal? What do you call that? A paspartout. The entremont! Oh that's the entremont I thought the entremont is before you eat No-no-no That's the aperitif Oh yes sorry... The entremont a little entremont from Bitcoin Bobby

46:26 who was interrogated by Ben Shapiro, fast talking fastest six gun in the West. Ben Shapiro and he turned it into a campaign ad but it was quite good in this context because Bitcoin Bobby the op is telling us how to drain the swamp of exactly this problem every single agency And the agencies are part of the executive branch, are they not? Am I... Yes. Okay so this is they should be listening to the president. The president should be the one who is in charge of them and he explains in this clip it's 145 a little longer than I'd like but it's good He explains what the swamp is how its captured why Trump couldn't drain it

47:13 and then what he would do if he was president. What do you do about the size and scope of the executive branch? It's completely unwieldy, you have enormous numbers of people who are supposed experts in their particular fields... How do you clean that out? You're doing one agency at a time and I've sued almost all these agencies. I've sued NIH CDC FDA EPA, I've sued USDA multiple times. They didn't start out corrupted They started out idealistic, they started out models for the rest of the world. They started out serving the public interest and they didn't always do that perfectly because bureaucracies make mistakes but you can restore those cultures if you stop the profiteering The FDA gets almost 50% of its budget from pharmaceutical companies Of course thats not going to work NIH scientists should not be able to collect royalties We have to stop the revolving doors that put corporate capture on steroids

48:04 In these agencies, there are individuals at high levels who have corrupted them. And I'm not just talking about the agencies that I've visited but also the CIA. I had dinner with Mike Pompeo about four months ago and he said to me my one biggest regret in life is that I didn't clean up the CIA when I had a chance where it was running yet and he said virtually entire upper echelon of that agency are made up of individuals who do not believe in the democratic institutions of the United States of America Upper edge lines are controlled by the military industrial complex and people who would do it spitting. When we sued Monsanto, we got discovery documents that showed that the head of the pesticide division at EPA for over a decade was taking his orders from highest officials in Monsanto to make sure no study got done that would look at links between glyphosate and cancer I can tell you who those individuals are at CDC

49:01 Boyle, Frank Stefano. I know the names because i've dealt with them and I know who has to be moved. President Trump wanted to do this. President Trump came in saying he's going to drain the swamp but he didn't know how to do it. You have individuals who are capable of committing civil disobedience that will turn off lights somewhere that will stop the sewage treatment plants, will flood the streets and that will embarrass the president so they tip-toe around these agencies and they never do anything about it don't know how to do it, but I know exactly what to do. So there it is! He spells it out very clearly and that mainly they're terrorists these agency people because they'll turn out the lights, they'll let raw sewage seep in the streets, blame it on the president... Yes, they will! And they will! They will so now we come to CBS, CIA Broadcasting Systems and

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Charlie Trotter Restaurant Anecdote and French Culinary Terms

The hosts digress into a discussion of French culinary terms like "amuse-bouche" and "entremont." This leads to an anecdote about a frustrating dining experience at Charlie Trotter’s restaurant in Chicago, where the chef's constant interruptions bothered the hosts during a business dinner.

charlie trotter· chicago· amuse-bouche· haricots verts· culinary

49:56 Yes, they have raw milk on the radar but really this is going to somewhere else which I have uncovered and we shall listen to a couple of these clips with America's other favorite doctor also not a veterinarian Dr. Celine Gounder wait isn't she the woman whose whose husband died from the Vax I think she is. Yes, yeah so she should know better but okay As bird flu spreads among cows in the US CDC is planning to publicly post data on this They start off with that premise? Oh yeah There's not a cow in the US that has bird flu Or bird flu or bird flue Which of your accents are interesting Bird flu By the way it was amuse-bouche what I was thinking before the meal

50:45 Oh, the amuse-bouche. Yes, amuse-bouche. That is a high end for people out there when they have an amuse-bouche. Here's how it goes... Chef has prepared something special for you! It's usually a spoon with a gob of goo on it And they say here and then explain what it is. It's a spoon with a gob of goo and like a nut, like a pistachio on top of the gob of goo A moose goo. We have an amuse-goo for you! And then they bring it out and they talk about... I was at this dinner at Charlie Trotter's once Wait, who is Charlie Trotter? Charlie Trotter is one of the greatest chefs the United States ever saw but he died recently from something or other Oh, I'm sorry But he

51:38 I went to his, you know and I've met the guy before because he was on the West Coast doing something that I was at. But he uh...I always wanted to go to this restaurant it's one of the best, it was the top restaurant in Chicago at the time So I go out there, and we're having dinner with my publisher. And we're trying to talk about business and this joker just keeps coming over he says oh Mr Trotter would like you Oh Mr Trotter! Mr Trotter! By the third time he said You know? We don't give a shit about Mr Trotter Go back and let us talk It's also not an hors d'oeuvre Net Ned That is something different

52:13 By the way, Tina showed me... The hors d'oeuvres are outside of the meal. This French, Tina showed me something on Instagram one of our friends she posted we have haricots verts our first crop it's called green beans! Haricot vert! All right back to the bird flow As bird flu spreads among cows in the U.S... The premise you write is just, it's so misleading. CDC is planning to- The premise is totally misleading! That that is a right from the get go this is a false report Fake news It's fake news I talk to ranchers and ranchers say there's no bird flu CDC is planning to publicly post data on the specific influenza virus found in wastewater Bird Flu is a subtype of Influenza A

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

CBS News Wastewater Testing and Bird Flu Symptoms

CBS News reports on the use of wastewater testing to detect bird flu, a method previously used during the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Celine Gounder discusses monitoring dairy workers for symptoms like conjunctivitis (pink eye), while the hosts question the validity of using PCR tests for such diagnoses.

cbs news· wastewater· bird flu· pink eye· dr. celine gounder

53:01 Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Bird flu is a subtype of influenza A. Sounds like something I could catch! It's been reported in dozens of cows across nine states there's also been at least two human cases The agency says it has identified the virus at multiple wastewater sites. You may remember, wastewater testing played a crucial role in detecting COVID-19 during the pandemic. Let's review... No it did not! This is a lie! It was sketchy at best everybody knew it The company that was doing the wastewater testing went out of business. Somehow Google got some of this business We have waste water aficionados in our producing audience Yes, we do quite a few and you know and they're all it's all using PCR And you can do whatever you want

53:51 Spin it up, oh there's AIDS in the water. Oh! There's cholera. It's all there The world exists of everything So we have two to three lies already on the CBS report right from the get-go We haven't even gotten to the juice yet Dr. Sling Gounder, CBS News medical contributor and editor at large for public health at KFF joins me now So doctor, what does it mean that they're doing this kind of testing? Are they being extra careful because they learned something from COVID about early detection or is there something particular going on here. Well so this is a new tool that we have to help monitor and- No I thought it was in use during COVID you can't even get your own story straight now It's a new tool. It's not an accurate too

54:35 By the way, we predicted they would do this. We would predict they would be right down to the house and then be like okay someone's pooping bird flu in there lock them up lock them in! Lock em' in! This is a new tool that we have to help monitor infectious disease outbreaks it's not the only tool and there are some limitations here oh yeah COVID was really just an infection of people at least in the United States with the bird flu as the name implies. It's not just humans, right? So you have birds who are infected, cows who are infected... Wait hold on! She just reversed the whole thesis! It's not just humans! What? Yeah. You know, this is I believe this is John Dickerson that's giving this report by his voice and then he should be ashamed of himself He's one of the top producer writer reporters at CBS But you have to understand fake news makes all the money real news makes no money case in point This podcast COVID was really just an infection of people at least in the United States

55:32 with the bird flu, as the name implies. It's not just humans right? So you have birds who are infected cows were infected and so you have to look at how waste water is really telling you because the waste could be coming from domesticated animals wild animals milk being dumped into the wastewater humans in rural areas you have septic systems it may not even be picking up some of the waste there Okay. Oh wow, okay so it's in the... You have a septic system and it's not going into the wastewater how about that? Yeah we need to test your septic tank. In rural areas where those picks live to vote for Trump I need to stick my dipstick into your septic tank be my guest! Okay we continue So now 70 I understand dairy farm workers are being monitored does that mean

56:20 They're being monitored just to see if something happens or what's the status of those? Yeah, okay. 70...somewhere some rancher went okay all right you know you can stick the cotton swab and let's see if we got bird flu So these are people who've been exposed right? Exposed! Right. Exposed So as they get exposed. Oh, wait for it! These are people who've been exposed to animals that have had H5N1 infection and so then the question is have they or are they developing symptoms? Some of the common symptoms we know of are conjunctivitis this pink eye... You gotta stop it again! Here it is! The symptoms! Yeah conjunctivitis. Pink eyes!

57:05 These are animals, cows that have been infected. Yes, infected What evidence do we have that one cow even one cow has been infected? Are you questioning the CBS, the Tiffany Networks News? Dissemination? I just want to know what cow or herd has been infected. They have some traces of bird flu in the milk, but that doesn't mean the cows are infected it doesn't mean anything! No and the ranchers won't even let them onto their property so they're... I don't blame them i think they should shoot him Amen. Animals that have had H5N1 infection and so then the question is, are they developing symptoms? Some of the common symptoms we know of are conjunctivitis this pink eye... Oh no! Pink eye?!

57:53 Wow, you can get pink eye from wiping wrong and not washing your hands I mean come on which was in the Texas case that was recently reported we oh We're oh do to breaking news. Do we have a rancher with pink eye a rancher with pink? Oh No Not a rancher with pink guy that is possibly Any rancher who doesn't get his foot half trampled or you know, it's a very dangerous work but oh Pink Eye. Oh yes stop the presses! Which was in the Texas case that was recently reported we are hearing many reports of other dairy farm workers with similar symptoms they haven't all been tested so we are waiting for a bit more information on some of those cases as well

58:34 And I'd love to know about the test because i'm pretty sure the test is another PCR bullcrap thing. PCR should not be used to diagnose any pathogen ever for any reason according to the inventor, Kerry Mullins of the PCR test. of the kinds of questions we have. We need more data, Jim! Some of what needs to be done is testing of the farm workers figuring out how they were exposed so was it through handling of milk or milking equipment? Is it maybe aerosolization of the milk or virus into the air so you're getting into your eyes that way? Is it breathing it in? We don't entirely know for sure which of those could cause it could be all of them no we know nothing but

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Dr. Celine Gounder and the Raw Sewage Comparison

During a CBS segment, Dr. Celine Gounder compares raw milk to "raw sewage" due to potential fecal contamination. The hosts strongly dispute this characterization and correct the historical record regarding Louis Pasteur, noting he originally developed pasteurization for wine, not milk.

cbs news· dr. celine gounder· raw milk· raw sewage· louis pasteur

59:31 Now, now we're going to take a little sidestep back to your let's not drink raw milk because it is so bad they have a descriptor for it which is just fascinating. Raw milk again you probably still regularly drink raw milk don't you? I think you are a raw milk drinker on regular basis do get it from Ben Honor farm? We have dairy in Washington state that does very nuts oh guys run by crack but there's also a real crime is the raw milk dairy he's a crackpot believe me he's like a clean freak it's just second believable

1:00:12 There is a raw milk dairy that in California, which actually I can't remember the name of them. I have it every so often It's better tasting than the Washington stuff is really good This is probably like more like now you had now you're not telling me that you transport this across state lines Do you yeah? Oh No Mimi could get arrested if she does that know it's not a bug So it's and by the way they closed inspection stations Oh, they did? On the highway? Yeah she's always complaining about you know... She wants to be inspected. Okay yeah of course she's a woman. Oh! Remember she listens to the show careful all right let's hear how bad this rock which I love as i said what The Meat Mafia Boys brought to my house nice big jug of it was it was like oh my god this is like

1:01:06 Eggnog. It's so good, so tasty And does it matter whether it is pre or post-pasteurized? Yes! So pasteurized milk... Well she laughed Because its funny for some reason Why is that funny?! I don't know, John. This is because the word pasteurized it tickled her ears. So pasteurized milk really does a very good job of killing bacteria and viruses this is why Louis Pasteur back in the 1800's came up with pasteurization because back then... That's a lie! But I looked it up, Louis Pasteur came up with pasteurization to pasteurize wine as far as i can find out. You might know more about that than I do. Well I never thought about looking into this... Yeah! It was not... I did, I was doing some research and one of our producers sent me a note saying Marie Antoinette never said let them eat bread

1:01:57 Cake all right let them eat cake. She said what she never said it was it was a lot It was the mainstream media of the time That attributed to her when it can be documented that was said by another famous woman in France When Marie Antoinette was nine years old, they can document it. And it was never Marie Antoinette she was falsely accused of saying this by the mainstream media and their head got chopped off thank you to M5M! So wait a minute... Oh no I'll get this link and put in the show notes It's good story This is troubling to me so the m5m lied about her

1:02:46 Lied and then... And her head is gone. They chopped her head off. That's what you were doing, lining up the clip! Took me a second. It took you longer than normal. So is Cuba Libre also not true? You know what the story behind Cuba Libre is? I forgot what that's about. The Cuba Libre is the glass they put the ice cream in. There's that coupe, that nice little rounded glass. Supposedly, that was exactly Marie Antoinette's breast size I could be wrong. I'm sure that's bogus too! I could be wrong, I could be wrong... Alright back to a descriptor for raw milk and remember Louis Pasteur did not invent this to pasteurize milk because those people were drinking raw milk and they loved it! Bacteria and viruses this is why Louis Pasteur back in the 1800s came up with pasteurization because back then people would get sick Raw milk think of it as raw sewage It's heavily... Wow!!!

1:03:45 Raw milk? Think of it as raw sewage. You're drinking sewage! So the natural exudation from a mammal, milk which women deliver too I might add is raw. Lactating that's sewage It's raw sewage to her. That is a fabulous report. Raw milk, think of it as raw sewage. It is heavily fecal contaminated. Think about where the cows' feces are. Hold on a second! Now she thinks that the cows poop out their udders or does she think that the milk comes out of anus? What is she saying here?

1:04:23 Think she says that's what she saying one of the two think about where it says it says cametamidin with fecal material Yes, but the others are nowhere near the fecal material Celine, Dr. Celine? Is she confused with the... What is she confused by this is very odd! A chicken and an egg. An egg has a vent and it poops and they come out of the same poop hole. What's that? The clava? It's a vent or something. Ectoclava, Cousteclava People would get sick. Raw milk think of it as raw sewage have cloaca, cloaca. Cloaca. Cloaca. Thank you trolls are on point today all right let's go heavily fecal contaminated think about you know where the cows their feces are yeah this is not clean you really want to be drinking pasteurized it's not clean the udders are super clean

1:05:18 And, um... I'm gonna admit now. I'm really not going near any unpasteurized milk." So he's so grossed out and so ignorant that he's like oh man! Oh those udders are dirty they're filled with poop Wow. You're getting clip of the day for this baby? No, this clip of the day is for The Clip Custodian. It's not for me. Oh my god! Yeah well The Clip Custodians on it man. And this is CBS. CBS last one How concerned should a regular person watching here who hasn't been on a farm recently be If you haven't been on a farm recently, go out. Go to a farm shake your rancher's hand learn about where the udder is So if you're not having direct contact with poultry or dairy cattle those are the two types of animals that have been infected in the United States if you're not drinking unpasteurized milk or raw milk your risk as a member of the general public is pretty low right now what we're concerned about... Pretty low? Wait a minute! It's not zero?!

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

Bird Flu Mutation Fears and Rising Raw Milk Sales

Despite health warnings, Nielsen IQ data shows that weekly sales of raw cow's milk increased by 21% following reports of bird flu in cattle. Health officials express concern that the virus could mutate and adapt for person-to-person spread, potentially leading to a new pandemic.

nielsen iq· bird flu· pandemic· raw milk· mutation

1:06:21 It's pretty low. No, that's a percentage your favorite your favorite percentage is pretty low it's you know slow Pretty low right now what we're concerned about is if this continues to replicate and mutate and evolve whether its in mammals or humans like dairy farm workers That's when there's a risk of evolving and adapting to humans and person-to-person spread Back to the wet market and it jumps. She says devolve which doesn't make sense No, but a deep and then he says oh it jumps It jumped this is the wet market story that were so that we were supposed to keep believing But Fowchee covered up wrong And so we figured out like lab okay? But no wet mark wet market is we're back to wet markets now That's when there's a risk of evolving and adapting to humans in person-to-person spread

1:07:11 and it jumps, and that's... And that's what we worry about. That's what can cause a pandemic so it may not be today. Oh pangolin! But say within the next 10 years if we allow this kind of thing to keep going? That's what we're worried about. And by then its too late if you haven't learned how to... Yep exactly Thank you so much for being here. It was always a pleasure. How to- I don't know If you haven't learned how to just like learn how to. If you haven't learned how to and then he stops Yes yes but how to lie how to lie for your for living So a couple of articles I have here first of all Um, here's the headline. There's bird flu in US dairy cows. Raw milk drinkers aren't deterred!

1:07:48 Since March 25th when the bird flu virus was confirmed in US cattle, that's lactating mammals for the first time weekly sales of raw cows milk have ticked up 21% Oh No Get it while you can according to Nielsen IQ That could be the reason that Mimi says she would went there the other day when this story started to break She went to sunny farms which is these stored that carries You can go to the dairy and just buy it there, but you can buy it from the store. And shit is all gone! All the raw milk was sold out. You know why? Because people are like oh they're coming for our raw milk let's go buy it we want it We want as much as we can get because we're healthy human beings. We're healthy human beings and while it seems like they all want us dead They don't It's just all capture I'm sure this whole report was sponsored by you know By the nut sap industry Anyway

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

USDA Climate Smart Commodities Program and Industry Capture

The USDA has appropriated $3.1 billion for "Climate Smart Commodities" projects, which the hosts characterize as a scam to buy off large producers. A listener's letter compares these agricultural regulations to the consolidation of the Gulf of Mexico reef fishery, where small players are being pushed out by corporate interests.

usda· climate smart· carbon sequestration· regenerative farming· fisheries

1:08:44 There is something else happening here and it comes under the recently announced Climate Smart Commodities Program. The USDA, it's the same people who are saying you can't have your raw milk have appropriated 3.1 billion dollars to 145 new private climate smart projects ranging from carbon sequestration to climate smart meat are you following me here this is this is what they're doing and so these ranchers these farmers there's a whole dashboard by state if you want, by state

1:09:35 of projects, each one is you know it's three million here four million there climate smart scaling mechanisms for regenerative farming. You want money? You just go to this dashboard here let's see what can I get in Texas... I can get farmers guiding farmers towards climate smart agriculture Oh, this is good. This is for Black and Indigenous producers. Mm-hmm! A lot of universities grabbing this money here 5 million for Florida A&M For National Black Food Injustice Alliance Are you kidding me now? Climate resilience for the farm and market development Economically viable low carbon And climate smart practices for soybean farming This is part of the global climate change scam

1:10:33 and they're buying everybody off. And what eventually happens is the small producers have no chance, they're just left with no chance. They are taken down into complete oblivion there's no market access for people who want these products and so now we have to go out and stand guard at Coles Farms in case that FDA USDA and CDC wanna come and test him and his cows And then I got this note from Captain Ben. He says, you know you've been doing a great job enlightening us about what's going on in the beef and dairy industry. I see some very interesting coincidences in the Gulf of Mexico commercial reef fishery that are similar to the cattle industry so he's talking reef fish include grouper snapper tilefish etc

1:11:26 In the last 25 years, the National Marine Fisheries Service has become more and more restrictive in their participation and regulation of the fisheries. He says my theory is the same thing they're collapsing the reef fishery industry so that small-time players will just get out and only a few large corporations own and control the whole thing Yeah. He says that if you look at the reality show Ice Cold Catch, he says you'll see a large portion of the North Atlantic cod is owned and caught by two large longline boats that are owned by corporations on the other hand fellow commercial fishermen say oh this is...the regulations are being imposed so that it will all be imported This is the same thing industry they control so much

1:12:13 with the captured regulatory agencies and you work at USDA or the FDA, and then you're done working there. You've done your job. You've helped out the nut sap industry. You've helped out the salmon farms. And then you leave and go take a million dollar job over there! This is what needs to stop. It's all under climate change. Climate change And that's where we're at. Climate change is the bane of our existence. Even Jordan Peterson, we don't play enough Jordan Peterson mainly because the jackets hurt my eyes Stop with the jackets Jordan they're ridiculous. What is going on with those jacket? The jackets are ridiculous They're not a statement they're creepy It's almost as creepy as King Charles portrait Who got him into doing that because it was like there were couple

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

Jordan Peterson on Carbon Dioxide and Global Greening

Jordan Peterson argues that the Earth is currently in a "carbon dioxide drought" by historical standards. Citing NASA satellite data, he claims that increased CO2 levels have made the planet 20% greener since the year 2000 and contributed to a 13% increase in crop yields.

jordan peterson· nasa· carbon dioxide· global warming· photosynthesis

1:13:10 ex-basketball players that wear this kind of outfit. You know, Bill Cosby had sweaters remember that? He always had sweaters it was actually a Dutch lady who made those sweaters for him and they were lame! People go oh look at my sweaters and what happened to you Bill Cosby look at where the sweaters got ya It's got nothing to do with it. No, it has nothing to do with it but I like it. So now Jordan Peterson of course says that this is a huge scam and here's little clip of him talking about it This is particularly about the carbon dioxide not carbon Not stuff that comes out by the way

1:13:53 Stuff that comes out of the exhaust of your car is carbon monoxide. Am I correct? No, a lot of carbon dioxide comes off Well we need more! We're essentially in a carbon... I'm sorry Oh i'm just saying yeah carbon monoxide does come out of the tailpipe And also nitrate various nitrogen oxygen or most of those are taken up by this but a catalytic catalytic converter exactly No, no. No we need more carbon dioxide twice as much as we have today We're essentially in a carbon dioxide drought my Historical standards so if you look at the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere over the last

1:14:30 Number of hundreds of millions of years like a pretty whopping time frame. We're at very very low level we drop to about 350 parts per million By say 1850 something like that plants start to die at 250 right because they need carbon dioxide So, we were almost at the point where the plants were going to start to die. That's how low the carbon dioxide levels are now they have been increasing why? Well some of that is probably man-made you know it's...that's not exactly settled but we could give the devil his due and say some of that is man made okay so now we're up to something in the low 400s and thats been increasing perhaps because if industrial output

1:15:19 So what's been the major consequence? The major consequences that the planet is 20% greener than it was in the year 2000 20 percent this is NASA data. No one disputes this by the way, the satellite imagery is absolutely clear okay mm-hmm 20% greener an area the size of the continental US has greened since the year 2000 and So the whole planet is 20% greener. That's a big effect, crops yield crop yield has gone up 13%. Right? Okay where's the planet getting greener because you heard climate global warming the deserts are going to grow well then it wasn't global warming because that turned out to be a scam then it was climate change The deserts are gonna grow It's like no the deserts are shrinking The deserts are shrinking because the planet is greening Because there's more carbon dioxide

1:16:13 Now, I like what he said here because it comes right back around to the agencies. If you have a deficiency of carbon dioxide... Of course we need Monsanto and glyphosate and all these things to improve your crop yield! We can't have that happening naturally by more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere No! That means we start to lose money This is the scam. This is the scam. What? Yeah, yeah. You start to lose money. Yeah! That's what it's all about. Who cares if it turns the frogs gay? And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you The man who put the C in the code for comrade Say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr... John C DeMora! Well in the morning to you Mr Abrupt Also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground Feet in the air subs in the water

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Live Podcasting vs. Spotify and Music Licensing Issues

The hosts advocate for live, unedited podcasting as the "raw milk of media." They discuss a notice sent to Spotify regarding unlicensed music in podcasts, predicting that the platform will use AI to deplatform shows, and urge listeners to use modern apps powered by the Podcast Index.

spotify· joe rogan· podcast index· music licensing· troll room

1:17:10 And all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, I am getting ready to count you! Joke out! They scurried off... Yeah, I'm keeping us on schedule man it's 117 we're into the show it's time You know? It was a natural break A natural break as well. It was an unnatural break at every one of those. Very natural break. I think it was perfect Perfect. Perfect natural break I've counted the trolls. We have 1820 trolls with us today that is down from our last Thursday show we had 1943 so we've lost some along the way no doubt because they drank raw milk and are now dying They have pink eyed dead dead dead dead. We got dead trolls if you want to be a troll And the trolls actually been quite good today, they've been posting stuff in French and

1:18:02 laughing along and you know everyone agrees on this stuff. I mean, you can't get them to agree on Israel and the Jews running the world but when it comes to milk, oh everyone's in agreement that's beautiful! If you want to be a troll go to TrollRoom.io You can listen to our show live on Thursdays and on Sundays we do it live Which by the way is probably the biggest problem with podcasts today, is most of these podcast are not done live. People take all the soul out of them by recording them and taking out all the uh's... And editing their crap on it. ...and speeding up a little and chopping out silences because people got no time! No we are just pure and raw like we're like we are the raw milk of podcasting We're the raw milk of podcasts That's exactly what we are The raw milk of podcasts and its good for ya

1:18:51 No pink eye here. Spotify, you listen to Spotify? That'll give you a pink eye So you go to trollroom.io or you use a modern podcast app, this is another thing where we are forging the future making sure that if... Do you think that you could by the way did you see that Spotify got a notice from from the whole music association industries saying... I'm sorry what? What? Spotify got a notice from all the copyright holding associations of music saying check this out You are hosting music that is not licensed in podcasts. So they didn't say which ones, but they say you have to remove them immediately so now Spotify is going to go and start I guess with AI seeing if there's any music in your podcast even if you've licensed it even if its value for value music and then gonna start dropping you your podcast will be dropped. Dropped by who? By Spotify! They'll kick it off their platform

1:19:56 Who wants to be on their platform anyway? Well, we're not on it. But you know people are stupid they don't listen to the podfather I said You don't want to be on Spotify! You know Rogan got his first 300 million from Spotify by not being on Spotify And then he said well come on man will pay you for it and then he went on Spotify Anyway, podcastapps.com get a modern podcast app one that won't be deplatformed because the back end is podcastindex.org and That's being distributed so even if we go away no one will be able to take it away ever We're Fedifying it Fedifying

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Advertising as Censorship

The "Value for Value" funding model is presented as an alternative to traditional advertising, which the hosts define as a form of censorship. They highlight the global spread of this model, noting its adoption by podcasters in Germany.

value for value· advertising· censorship· germany· no agenda shop

1:20:33 Another thing we don't do is, we don't take native ads or any kind of commercials from any creepy corporations at all. None! Never done it because that's another thing. You're going against the grain here man but you're talking about a competitor man? You can't do that no no no... It's all censorship advertising is censorship So we... Ooh! Whoa. That's a new phrase and I like it. Oh, uh... Advertising is censorship You've never heard me say that? Have i not done that? No yeah, I don't remember you saying it. I would have picked it up because they would go right in the newsletter Okay And on hoodies over at noagendashop.com

1:21:14 I'm telling you boys, we've got to get on the stick here. We need to promote them more noagendershop.com. We got hoodies, we got t-shirts, we got hats, we got koozies all kinds of groovy stuff. No agendashop.com. Instead we have adopted for 16 years now i think yeah about 16 years maybe a little more the value for value model. We probably didn't start calling it value for value until 14 years ago And then that just stuck. And it's amazing how this concept is spreading far and wide, I actually have an M5M segment for after we talk about some of our executive and associate executive producers about how they are losing out, how it is crumbling, how does all falling apart? No! We use value for value the whole world is talking about value for value case in point This is the Auf Auge Hörne podcast show

1:22:08 Auf Auge Hohner Podcast Show aus Deutschland! Listen carefully. Voluntarily, value for value you heard it! Even the Germans are in on it. Huh? There's no German translation for the phrase? No, man! It's like...no! Value for value! No, man! No, man! The way I see it this is like an original phrase that only has to be spoken in English. Value for value über alles, man! That's how we roll!

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

A segment dedicated to high-tier donors features the granting of the Barony of Donnybrook to Kieran Hennessy and the knighting of Sir John of Jupiter. The hosts read letters from producers in Washington, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania, acknowledging their financial support and personal milestones.

knighthood· dublin· blaine· foxborough· loxahatchee

1:27:51 Now for the treasure portion, we'd love to give thanks to all of our producers. The whole beauty of Value For Value is you can give whatever you want whatever the show is worth to you at five dollars may be a lot to you by the way if everyone gave five dollars it's the pipe dream but if everyone gave five dollars these segments will be way shorter and we could just run through it there'll be no segment let me know segments you're right would be no segment instead The balance always comes from the executive and associate executive producers. We appreciate them very much, and we kick it off with Kieran Hennessy who's in Dublin County Dublin Ireland $1,000 and Kieran says hi Hey no jingles No karma thanks however as this is my third my third 1k payment if you will accept that without accounting I would like to claim the barony of Donnybrook

1:28:44 I'd say that is approved. Approved, approved, approved and thank you very much! Sounds good. Kieran we appreciate it well hit that with that later on with your official title change. That's the name Hennessy Yes. Okay well then we move on to Alan Finston in Blaine Washington and he sent a check-in and note and do you know why how can tell us the note? Because its on paper. It sounds like paper The fourth with, he writes. Please find my second installment of 3333 for Fast Track the Knighthood. I should be getting that ambassadorship to BLEEZE any day! Asking for a birthday blessings from myself and as I approach 60 times around the sun also asking for birthday blessings from my smoking hot wife and smart, he puts it right today. After the fact, he wrote in smoking hot AND SMART

1:29:42 wife Joni 615 and my beautiful daughter Isabel six one everybody Wow the three four tall I thought they were just tall but no it's all birthdays. Okay, uh Six once currently residing in New York City Brooklyn nice you good go meet your daughter But don't hold that against her. Thanks for all you guys do to keep me sane I'll be dropping my next donation in a few months We hosted a meetup recently at our bistro the vault Bistro and wine bar in beautiful Blaine Gateway to the USA where I can still see socialism from my deck

1:30:18 A good time was had by all. Still waiting for either of you guys to show up at our bistro where you will be treated like the OG gangsta kings that you are! Perfecting my roundtable request, stay tuned thank you for your courage and the best podcast in the universe and forward the best podcast in the universe and put that in there. Allen Finston and Blaine Washington Thank You Allen we move on today Lisa from Foxborough Massachusetts Lots of casinos there, if I recall. Foxboro Casino Also a piece of paper. I have the scan Adam and John 333 dot 33 encloses my annual donation Thank you See as you encouraged seeing as you encourage the airing of grievances I will admit I am still a bit miffed that you did not acknowledge My gift of ruffles all dressed chips last spring I believe this to not be true

1:31:07 I think we most definitely discussed the box of Ruffles all-dressed chips she sent. You said, most definitely? I meant it a hundred percent! However she says i'm trying to let that go yes is called forgiveness. I think that we got two chips and they were so gross... That we didn't want to make her embarrasser. I think you may be right. Ruffles... Let me see Ruffles all dressed chips. It was like I believe there were a small bag of potato chips that had every imaginable spice and seasoning all thrown into one to make a mess, but I believe that's to be true. I do believe yes well I see we discussed ruffles chips

1:31:52 on episode 1064. Let me just... Yeah, that was probably the... So we did discuss them she didn't hear it I think we did! I'm pretty sure we do yes anyway anywho I'm trying to let that go i know you must get a lot of gifts and I am more worried that you will find an exit strategy and leave me in my amygdalas stranded well that's yes Keep up the good work. Dame Lisa of Amick Lake in Foxborough. Podcasters In Residence is our latest scheme. We'll probably get points on every deal, points man we'll get points. Oh yeah we get some points on some deals. Points on the deal. Podcasters in residence. Hey hello VCs out there and we will do great so tell me about your latest AI play

1:32:44 So, what's the T and what's the Tam on your product? That's the total accessible market for those not in the know of VC speak. I impressed you with that I can tell yeah oh yeah okay all right Europe Oh I am up with sorry sir pursuit Sir pursuit of peace and tranquility another another note and paper. This is great! Please find enclosed my May donation of $333.33 if Adam would kindly chip in a penny. No, I've got one hold on it's in that small pocket in my there it is...in my jeans? He will help me stay

1:33:28 Aligned with the universe see accounting below and he's got the accounting. He's got four three three three dot three doesn't need a penny But he got sincerely sir pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lands of the red clay, and the cherry trees that you've got the accounting but he doesn't Say anything about winning it up great way gets an upgrade I think against an upgrade is not for Was Baron Plus, isn't that a bike or a burl? He's on the list for something. Hold on a second... Title change.... No! No he didn't ask for anything. Well if you asked for something we'll give it to him next time. Of course with great pleasure. I don't get the penny. With great pleasure Mike Ellis is in Pottstown PA 333

1:34:09 ITM John Adam, the pride of successfully hitting my uncle Jimmy Rowe in the mouth was soon overshadowed by the shame of my douchebaggery being called out on The Last Show. The dirt won't come off! Perhaps a de-douching might cleanse me of my shame? You've been dedouched I just keep taking from the best podcast in universe without returning any treasure to the cause well no more Love is Lit and love you guys. Jingles, Anything Rev Sharpton and yelling dog karma! 23456 becomes the first social executive producer. This donation brings me to knighthood I've been part of the no agenda community for 10 years to the day and it's made a Double plus good difference in my life Thanks to sir Sean of the northern Everglades for hitting me in the mouth and keeping me honest

1:35:21 Thanks to my smoking hot wife Jenny for permission to become a knight for my Joint birthday Father's Day present. Wow, that's not good for Jenny. She's got she's this Smart one of the smart ones Shout out to Grime-erica and to the producers of this in a similar line, sim...similar line of work who publicly share the information I haven't. Speaking of spooks... Hey by the way, support Grime-erica! Is anyone else suspicious that Sparky The Dimension Dog and Phoebe haven't been seen in the same place? Hmm coincidence? Please knight me Sir John of Jupiter lover of La Ha...Loxahatchee

1:36:06 Bloxahatchee and emissary to the perpetual pioneers. I would like some street meat and Everglades heat at the round table, can i get some Trump's job karma for inspiration? And an Atlas shrug since im still waiting on my invite to Galt's Gulch! And he is an associate executive producer and will be knighted today! There you go.

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Purely Raised Skincare and Saskatoon Relocation

The hosts promote "Purely Raised Skincare," a tallow-based company started by a nurse who refused the COVID-19 vaccine. They also read a letter from a couple who moved from British Columbia to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, to find a lower cost of living and a more traditional Canadian environment.

purely raised skincare· saskatoon· tallow· nursing· cost of living

1:36:44 Steve Dimitrijevic. Dimitrijevic, Dimitrijevic... Dimitrijevic? What do you think it is? Dimitrjivik? I want to say it fast! Dimitrivijvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkjvkj And what was his donation amount here? He sent us... Oh, RoaDux. 222.22. Another one of our favorites. John Adam thank you for your courage been listening since Adams first rogan appearance. Please credit this donation to my beautiful wife Michelle. Oh that's a switcheroo then. Since giving up her nursing job due to jab refusal good woman

1:37:34 She has given birth to our two beautiful HR daughters. HR? Oh, human resource daughters and started a tallow-based skincare company I could not be more proud! Now watch out FDA is going to come for you and we never had a fight With all the recent talk about banning beef and cattle shortages, I knew it was time to donate. For producers looking for a chemical-free skincare go to purelyraisedskincare.com That's purely raised skin care dot com And use code ITM20 for 20% off your first order Yack karma for all! Wow...I love it when people start businesses like that

1:38:23 I bet it's dynamite. I really do thank you. You've got karma, so Michelle Michelle is in there Michelle Michelle my bill We have another Michelle Michelle Cartmel how about that questions in Westbrook or West Bank? I'm sorry BC BC BC to 1060 Hi John and Adam, $200 USD is 285 Canadian dollar-ettes. Wow! It's been a crazy year for Sir Adriel and I we moved away from the overly expensive cost of living in the Okanagan Valley in BC wine growing area might add to Saskatoon the Paris of Canada it is

1:39:16 It's what they say, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Gotta say we love it here and this is a beautiful place and it's so much more like the Canadia we grew up in. We are really enjoying the lower cost of living, the practical people and the natural beauty of the area. Now we can afford to donate more often. Everybody should move to Saskatoon! She didn't say that I did. Yeah, like it no jingles this time just some moving karma as we finally move into our Permanent place after living off the good graces of a friend for six Wow six months wow that is a good friend. Thank you for your courage Michelle You've got karma

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Gigawatt Coffee and Image Makers Inc. Promotions

Promotions are read for Gigawatt Coffee Roasters and Image Makers Inc., alongside a mention of No Agenda-themed books by Scott McKenzie. The hosts also discuss the career progress of racer Ashland Speed, who has been a long-time supporter of the show's community-driven brands.

gigawatt coffee· image makers inc· scott mckenzie· ashland speed· resumes

1:39:59 And then we move over to Eli the coffee guy. I happen to be drinking a gigawatt This is still the Costa Rican Dota Tarazoo snap juice. Yeah, I love that stuff man I only drink it on show days by the way because otherwise Tina's like calm down Calm down. I want to credit this donation to Scott McKenzie, okay? I will change that credit He is the author of the no agenda themed books. I have them all yes such as tales from Gitmo nation and cockroach milk We've been talking about this for so long haven't we we were talking about bugs in your food before Klaus Schwab was born

1:40:35 Producers who want a fun, easy read laced with dark humor? Check them out. Scott McKenzie No Agenda themed books And whether you make your lattes with cow's milk nut sap or cockroach milk visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your first order Stay caffeinated Eli the coffee guy They sent me some of the new Rwanda special edition. Ah, have you tried it yet? No I just finished the last grinding of the last I'm just going in next It's good stuff And it's just a husband and wife who do this right yes Yeah as far as I can tell what they say see and they sent me a beautiful note with my cans You know, I like to can't hide the cans man like the cans cans I get all jacked from the cans

1:41:25 Well, that brings us to Linda Lupatkin another contributor to the show a consistent one from Lakewood Colorado who wants jobs car. She comes out always with $200 every she says for a speedy a speedier job search For a speedier job search and get my intonation correct go to image makers Inc comm For all your resume, executive resume and job search needs that's image makers Inc with a K as in ink. Or find Linda Lepatkin the Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You know uh I saw that our resident racer Ashland Speed, speed racer

1:42:14 who has been doing a dynamite job of promoting Gigawatt Coffee and Image Makers Inc. So now she's signed with like some sports management company Oh good, good for her that's what she needs Well you know what's gonna happen there go all the freebies Before you know it our logo is going to be off the car Well, we'll see. Those guys... those guys! They're not paying anything I know what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're saying But you know what? I'm okay with it because i could not be happier for her She has winner written all over- Her name Speed She's gonna be on the podium. Always put a No Agenda patch on the outfit. Oh, you know we'll get her a No Agenda... And management guys won't be able to do anything about that That's right no agenda cowboy hat You know she always wears a cowboy hat because she's Texas girl Yeah well it's a North Carolina look Yes Exactly right We're so proud of her

1:43:10 Yeah, we want to see people like her succeed. Go on without us! Okay? We don't need the logo just remember us. Just remember us when you're on the point. A female Richard Petty in the making. Wooo! Only much better looking. Richard Petty man he was kind of harsh looking. Thank you Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers. Again, thank you everybody who supports the show your producer for any amount go to noagendadonations.com we will be mentioning people above $50 in our second thank-you segment and of course we always think people under 50 who come in for reasons of anonymity and again those sustaining donations any amount is good goto noagendadonations.com

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Miss USA Resignations and Trump Association

The resignations of Miss USA Noelia Voigt and Miss Teen USA Uma Sophia Srivastava are discussed. NPR and The Washington Post are criticized for linking the current organizational turmoil to Donald Trump’s former ownership of the pageant, despite him having no current involvement.

miss usa· noelia voigt· donald trump· npr· washington post

1:43:54 Thank you again for being executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. I'd like to discuss the Miss USA controversy with a couple of NPR clips. Oh good, because...I already brought it up that something was going on right? We talked about it a few shows ago Yeah you mentioned it Yes But this is like a... Something's going on! This is like a classic example of NPR not being able to twist the story

1:44:37 To Trump, to Trump. Just the story so it's just... To make it something Trump did? I think you may have guessed it but let's go ahead and put one here Really?! Now we turn to a scandal that is shaking up the beauty pageant world Oh man! It's already starting off great The beauty pageant world oh no Miss USA and Miss Teen USA recently stepped down The organization that runs both of these competitions is under scrutiny Now, former Miss USA Noelia Voigt cited mental health while the former Miss Teen USA Uma Sophia Srivastava pointed to a misalignment of quote personal values within the organization.

1:45:16 For more insight on this, we are joined here in studio by Amy Argettsinger. She's style editor at The Washington Post and the author of the book There She Was! The Secret History of Miss America. Amy welcome. Thank you for having me. Amy just for starters can you briefly walk us through what we know so far about these resignations? We haven't gotten a lot of details. It seems as though both the former Miss USA and the former Miss Teen USA are probably bound up by non-disclosure agreements, they've alluded to being limited in what they can say but some details have trickled out just reading between the lines of their messages to the public on Instagram and by some comments that their mothers have given in interviews

1:45:54 And the general impression you have is that they feel like they were just shabbily treated by the pageant management. That they were subject to criticism and disorganization, You've seen some phrases tossed about bullying, sexual harassment that wasn't taken seriously. Things like that but the precise details have not come out." The resignation statement that was put out by Noelia Voigt who is Miss USA went viral and followers online were pointing out that her statements first 11 sentences started with letters that spelled out quote I am silenced unquote

1:46:31 I mean, do you think that's Internet conspiracy theory or she is trying to say something significant there? For once it does not seem to be Internet conspiracy theory. People close to her have said yeah this is how she feels that was an intentional message and that's the message we've gotten This was somewhat coordinated. These young women talked to each other, their resignations had been preceded by that of the social media manager for the organization. Wow! It's about time this is... I've never understood why this is still a thing? I mean it seems so off in today's politically correct world to have beauty contests at all

1:47:17 And to display women like... This is of course the season of reveal and we'll find out about the Olympic Games, how the athletes are treated like just marketing meat. Marketing meat! That's all these women aren't? Marketing meat for organizations that are corrupt and probably filled with creeps Of course, I would draw creeps because you know you go where the action is Hey there's actually nowhere there yeah So I am silenced as the first let you know first I actually wrote a column for Mac user magazine years ago Where I did that you did? I'm silence. You didn't you did one of those Sam silence But I had some message using their last letter of every sentence was it oh

1:48:02 I can't remember, it was happy April Fool's Day or something. The whole thing was... To let down? I did a bunch of these jokes and one year I resigned which upset the publisher. But there was a message that was in there, but I remember one time I did one that was mirror image which is the, I think it's one of my more creative April Fool's gags. Using the first letter is not a conspiracy when it spells out I am silenced! No. It's like what kind of you think it's a coincidence that she wrote this? So okay anyway so now we go to part two because we gotta get to the bottom of this what's really going who is responsible more quietly though, a couple of longtime executives with Miss USA stepped away in the past several months since the pageant management changed hands back in August

1:48:54 This is an organization that's in some upheaval, and that goes back a long ways. Voight hasn't commented further on her resignation statement but a longer version of that resignation letter was obtained by some news organizations and in it she accused the Miss USA organization of quote a toxic work environment that at best is poor management and at worst is bullying and harassment Given what you know about this organization, about its history did those charges surprise you? No. They really didn't surprise me. Part of that has to do with the fact that this was the pageant organization Miss USA, subsidiary of Miss Universe, that was owned in part by Donald Trump

1:49:36 I think we all remember hearing in 2015, 2016 some of the accusations. Some of the stories that came out about his behavior around contestants, the way he talked about them. Oh my word! You know what? I thought that, you know did John forget? Did he forget about what was going on but this also deserves a Clip of the Day award. So NPR and Washington Post they can't help themselves They just can't do it Of course we had to take it to Trump It's Trump's fault You know what? I know what the problem was I know what she couldn't say I know whats going on Half of the contestants are dudes

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Kappa Kappa Gamma Transgender Membership Lawsuit

Six members of the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority are appealing a court ruling to ban transgender women from their organization. The dispute involves the interpretation of the term "woman" in the sorority's bylaws and allegations of a coercive voting process conducted via Google Forms.

kappa kappa gamma· denver· transgender· sorority· google forms

1:50:25 That's what happening there. Yeah, yeah we're sick of it! We're sick of it and so is the sisterhood Kappa Kappa Gamma Six members of Kappa Kappa Gamma walked towards the federal court of appeals in downtown Denver this morning Supporters cheering as they make another push to ban Artemis Langford and transgender women from being in their sorority It's a space to be free you are not exposed to outside world You're safe from all that. Their case was dismissed by the district court last year, the judge ruling even though Kappa Kappa Gamma's bylaws say quote a new member shall be a woman The court can't be the one to decide whether that excludes transgender women The sororities attorney Natalie McLaughlin arguing today the Fraternity Council didn't amend the bylaws just interpreted them

1:51:14 women is undefined in CAPA's bylaws and that term women is not a term that has a singular definition. They say when a fraternity council is put into position then they have the duty, that's the word they used, duty to decide what that term means and in this case they decided that that is to include transgender women The issue here is whether Fraternity Council has the right to interpret the term women not whether they have announced that term in the best form, but whether they have exercised the right to interpret that term. And that is what occurred here." The six women though say the way the sorority was asked to vote on Lankford's membership through Google Forms was against bylaws.

1:52:00 of, hey we can see if you voted. We can see how you voted and we can come talk to you about your vote." The three judges listened to both sides for a little over an hour they did express doubt on whether they could make a ruling or if the lower court should continue to hear the case no word on when they may come back with a decision. Okay well this is easy Kareem Dvorak say you're not a woman We can define what a woman is. This has to stop and it's crazy that we have a Supreme Court Justice Katonji Jackson Brown who in her confirmation hearing would not define what a woman is, and here we are! These girls by the way? Fantastic they were rocking it. You're women look at us we're women stay away dude There's an overriding question here

1:52:50 which is you got a sorority. I'm familiar with sororities and fraternities and how they operate, they vote the person in if some transgender comes in then they don't want transgenders in their sorority they just say no! See what big fusses being made? Didn't she hear what she said that there was something about voting some screwy voting system Yeah, they forced everybody open-voting it wasn't a closed vote It was Google forms Google Forms goes along with sheets. This doesn't there's something about the story doesn't make sense I mean, I like the what they're up to yes me too I like what they're up to but it's just like kind of seems somewhat but women drive women are under attack and it has to stop particularly

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Homeschooling Benefits and No Agenda ABC Books

The hosts discuss the benefits of homeschooling, citing the success of Jay Dvorak, who manages NoAgendaABC.com. They emphasize that homeschooling allows children to develop without the "hang-ups" of the traditional school system and announce that new coloring books are currently shipping.

homeschooling· jay dvorak· no agenda abc· education· human resources

1:56:39 That would change. By the way, The New York Times had an outstanding... I was surprised in this era of the whole child initiative which is extremely disturbing. Good! I have a pamphlet which i've not allowed to post yet but the pamphlet that's distributed in schools from these summit counseling center And I mean, this is the stuff that they're identifying children with in schools by in-school counselors. This is a problem! Get your kids out of these schools don't even try to change the school just get them out Yeah, I'm thinking you're right. I mean homeschooling it there's lots of resources for homeschooling You home-schooled all of your kids?

1:57:29 No, just a couple of them and only part not the whole time either. Just a period of time right? And then they want to go do it you find out a couple of things Yeah, and there's like there's categories of homeschoolers as Christian home schoolers There's the Muslim homeschoolers is Jewish homeschoolers is this secular so this four groups are homeschoolers and they intermix A little bit the Muslim homeschoolers tend to be the most aggressive about field trips So you try to hook up with a few of those guys So the kids are always going out there at farms, they're in factories. The Muslim homeschoolers are great. There's resources, there's bookstores, there is online sources that once you get into it it just all of a sudden you're in a network you didn't know existed and then boom everything you need is there

1:58:18 It's a no-brainer. So actually quite easy. The key, I'll give you this the key to success to homeschooling is to get the kid to agree your child yet again be into it to agree to it. Yeah, would you like to leave? Yeah this school is terrible! Would you like to be homeschooled? We will homeschool you but you have to agree to cooperate. Sign this contract kid! And once they agreed to cooperate then it's good to go there dude a lot of art and reading on their own... If I can just say how many years was Jay home-schooled probably

1:58:57 Four or five, five maybe. Jay Dvorak is one of the most delightful productive human resources I've ever had the pleasure of working with. She does noagendaabc.com The books are shipping by the way They're shipping as we speak. Noagendaabc.com Get your coloring book get your hard copy She is one of the most enjoyable, pleasant productive human resources I've ever worked with. And there you go because she was homeschooled she got no hang-ups no issues always smiley always good you know but i would recommend any organization hire her except you can't cuz we got her under contract! She's at our publishing company not mine but she has a publishing company so you can have her

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Social Media Impact on Youth Mental Health

A New York Times video report explores how social media and "professional clinicians" on platforms like TikTok may be convincing teenagers they have mental illnesses. The segment argues that while awareness is high, it is not reducing the actual rates of mental health problems and may be pathologizing normal life stress.

new york times· mental health· social media· anxiety· therapy

1:59:46 So anyway, on the previous episode I made some comments about social media and how useless utterly useless it is to be posting about all the horrible things in the world. You might get it off your chest but you're not doing anything. You're not starting a conversation, you're not getting anything going, you've been helping your memes really aren't doing all that much You're in a little bubble and you get your friends going, yeah that was great man. That was a great meme. Oh yeah I got them! Yeah you showed them on the libs really little. There's more danger to social networks, particularly to the children. By the way I saw a lot of positive comments people like you know Adam is horrible guy who hate him he's a grifter but he is kind right you know it was really kind useless. You're not a grifter that for sure No they call me Grifter I'm a grifter I'm a grifter I may be a horrible guy but your not a grifter Thank you thank you for clarifying

2:00:44 But there is more going on with social networking that I would like the parents who, of course if you're listening to the No Agenda podcast you probably already know this but i was surprised delightfully surprised to see The New York Times post a whole piece on this and actually had a video. I clipped it and this is about mental health and how social media and the experts on social media are ruining your children. You're nice and easy to be around, but you people please too much. Many are made by professional clinicians and they mean well But here's the thing high functioning anxiety isn't a medical diagnosis it's a hashtag No one cares about me so why should I care about myself?

2:01:46 okay to not understand what you're feeling. And it's easier to think that you are alone over the last decade, there has been this massive cultural shift in how we talk about our psychology and our feelings. I see a therapist It's okay. Okay. It's okay. It's okay. Even Burger King cares about your mental health awareness is good. It teaches us to talk about our feelings and it combats harmful stigma, but all this awareness is not reducing rates of mental health problems. What it IS doing is convincing some teenagers that they have a mental illness when they don't." Yes! Exactly... That's exactly what's happening. Oh I'm high func- I have high functional anxiety Guess what? Anxiety is part of life You don't need drugs for it you don't need stuff to regulate your anxiety

2:02:38 And all of this stuff, it's all and professionals John. It's professionals is all part of the American psychiatric association Oh no if you feel like this sometimes oh he probably needs to take a pill yeah You're a boy girl boy it always ends up with your boy. Yeah, girl. Yeah exactly so Be careful be careful out there people ah See you've been hiding it from me And I wasn't prepared. What are you drinking today, John? I'm drinking Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher and this is a berry lemon flavor. It's my last can of hoppy refresher. Interesting. Kind of a hint. Sounds good. You drank the whole case on the show

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

Inflation Data and Fast Food Price Hikes

Economic data shows American families are spending significantly more per month than three years ago. The discussion covers the bankruptcy of Red Lobster, rising car insurance rates, and the "thinner" patties at McDonald's as evidence of the true impact of inflation despite official government figures.

inflation· bidenomics· mcdonalds· red lobster· car insurance

2:03:33 No, I drink it every so often. It's tasty. Hmm. It's hoppy. Let's see We probably let me see Oh Yeah we should probably talk about this for a second just because you're the expert American families are now spending about two hundred and twenty seven dollars more a month compared to a year ago and about $1,037 more compared to three years ago. Even with incomes rising costs going up have meant that credit card statements how much money you're putting on that credit card is also rising the number of Americans now missing their credit card payments is increasing with Gen Z the most likely age group to max out their credit cards and the Fed has

2:04:18 that rates are likely to go lower eventually, but that eventually continues to get pushed out with inflation higher and we're starting to see it impact other areas like student loans. Student loan interest rates now the highest in nearly two decades." Yeah! Everything's great economy is good Best ever! Oh, Bidinomics is working everybody. Bidinomics! I got hairy legs! So they expected 3.5% inflation month over month You know, I wish...I don't know if i have a clip on this but one of the clips may incorporate this. But NPR again they talked about it like this is great! The economy has never been in better shape It's only 3.5% month over month This is way down! Month over month? It's compounded isn't it not?!

2:05:11 Yeah, oh yeah. It just keeps its... it stacks on top of each other so whatever it is, it's more Let's see how great the economy is let's see how fast food was doing Back now with Red Lobster moving closer to bankruptcy The Wall Street Journal reports a seafood chain could file for Chapter 11 as soon as next week It follows the sudden closure of dozens of restaurants Red Lobster has been losing money for years Its all-you can eat shrimp deal contributed to an $11 million loss Yes. I mean, shrimp. Shrimp is the bug of the sea! They can't even make money on shrimp? They weren't it was all you can eat shrimps. This broke them because you got big fat... Hey, I don't know about you but Texas has got plenty of these guys but we had a lot of wet red lobsters out here big fat guys and they'd go into a place like this where its all-you-can-eat shrimp for fixed price and they eat it they eat the place out

2:06:09 And then these guys managing Red Lodge are too dumb to pull the promotion. To realize this is not working? Well, there's another promotion because you know so with these inflation numbers actually it was kind of funny let me see do I have it in here um let me see... Do I have that? I thought they had the inflation number oh here's the inflation breakdown It was kind of interesting to see how they, and of course these numbers are bogus. So all items 3.4% increase in cost that is what they called inflation the largest inflation categories were juices and drinks

2:06:54 29% increase. Video discs and other media, 29% increase. Video what? Video discs and other media. Discs! I know...I don't know why they're measuring that but that's 29%. Motor vehicle insurance we got hit by this 22.6 percent We have as much chance of something happening to our car is as Farmer Jed. I mean we live in the sticks It's amazing how much our car insurance went up. Admissions to sporting events, you're getting gouged 15%.

2:07:33 Food at home though only 1.1 percent, while food in general like fast-food now that's going up then so McDonalds... Wait a minute groceries have gone up how could food at home only be one percent because that stems from groceries? One point one percents it says That's some that's a bogus number Beef roast 10.1% I guess beef roast is not the same as food at home Frankfurters 7%. Fats and oils, why are you eating that at all people? 5%. Canned vegetables 4.8%, tomatoes 4.7% dried beans peas and lentils Food away from home though is up Vending machines 7.3%

2:08:22 and limited service meals and snacks 4.8 so that's I guess your fast food they don't break it out by fast food so McDonalds is feeling the heat because they are gouging people did you see that there was a video that went viral of this lady like she opens up her Big Mac and its thinner than the pickle, the meat patty is thinner than the pickle and its transparent theres holes in it Yeah, it sounds like you so so there's that for one McDonalds in Oakland I should get some clips because I can get these clips. Mm-hmm That was rat infested We talked about a rat infested for over a year Shut it down we had clips of the rat infested we had clip were your clips. You don't remember at rats So McDonald's

2:09:09 is fighting back with a one-month limited value meal. With fast food frustration frying customers... Whoa, nice alliteration! What happened to the dollar menu? Bring that back This morning some relief may be on the horizon of the Golden Arches McDonald's may soon roll out a $5 value meal nationwide Two people familiar tell CNBC the offer would include four piece chicken McNuggets A choice of McChicken or McDouble Fries and a drink And the rumor hot off the press has consumers loving it. Because that seems too good to be true I'm excited for it if thats the case because everything is expensive now The fast food giant would just be latest offer a $5 meal deal You get all this with JBC for just 5 bucks Igniting a battle in the burger kingdom as more inflation cautious consumers are fed up with rising fast food costs Yeah nice native ad CNBC It was definitely native but the worst part

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

McDonald's Five Dollar Value Meal Promotion

McDonald's is reportedly planning a $5 value meal to combat consumer frustration with rising fast-food costs. However, franchise owners are reportedly resistant to the deal, fearing it will result in financial losses similar to Red Lobster's "all-you-can-eat shrimp" promotion.

mcdonalds· cnbc· value meal· franchise owners· beef initiative

2:08:22 and limited service meals and snacks 4.8 so that's I guess your fast food they don't break it out by fast food so McDonalds is feeling the heat because they are gouging people did you see that there was a video that went viral of this lady like she opens up her Big Mac and its thinner than the pickle, the meat patty is thinner than the pickle and its transparent theres holes in it Yeah, it sounds like you so so there's that for one McDonalds in Oakland I should get some clips because I can get these clips. Mm-hmm That was rat infested We talked about a rat infested for over a year Shut it down we had clips of the rat infested we had clip were your clips. You don't remember at rats So McDonald's

2:09:09 is fighting back with a one-month limited value meal. With fast food frustration frying customers... Whoa, nice alliteration! What happened to the dollar menu? Bring that back This morning some relief may be on the horizon of the Golden Arches McDonald's may soon roll out a $5 value meal nationwide Two people familiar tell CNBC the offer would include four piece chicken McNuggets A choice of McChicken or McDouble Fries and a drink And the rumor hot off the press has consumers loving it. Because that seems too good to be true I'm excited for it if thats the case because everything is expensive now The fast food giant would just be latest offer a $5 meal deal You get all this with JBC for just 5 bucks Igniting a battle in the burger kingdom as more inflation cautious consumers are fed up with rising fast food costs Yeah nice native ad CNBC It was definitely native but the worst part

2:10:06 It seems as if from the, at least from the forums that the franchise owners of all these McDonald's do not want this. No because they're going to get soaked on it They're gonna get soaked on its gonna be like the free or the all you can eat shrimp its just there is no money in it and so their not happy Now at this point your better off getting some ground hamburger meat from your rancher Yes, yes you are. It's it'll pay the same if not less and you can make a whole bunch of patties. The number of people out there that have ranchers available to them is probably 1% of the audience. It's available to everybody in America There's a map and there's one near you BeefInitiative.com There's one near you You can get this This is this is the problem People think that they can't get it

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

Senator Bob Menendez Corruption Trial and Gold Bars

The federal corruption trial of Senator Bob Menendez begins, with prosecutors alleging he accepted gold bars and cash as bribes to benefit the Egyptian government. Menendez's defense claims the gold was family property belonging to his wife and that the government's case is based on speculation.

bob menendez· fbi· gold bars· egypt· bribery

2:11:00 I'm just trying to keep people healthy. Do whatever you want, feed your kids that crap. Feed your kids crap! Adam and John says feed your kids crap raw sewage. Let us since we're in the season of reveal here Let's go to the corruption, because they're all corrupt. All of them are in some kind of deal one way or the other I love how Menendez is throwing his wife under the bus though Gold bar seized by FBI will be put on full display in federal corruption trial against Senator Bob Menendez This is what prosecutors told jurors Wednesday afternoon during open

2:11:42 opening arguments are what they described as a road map to their case. Assistant US Attorney Laura Pomerantz said, this is a case about a public official who put greed first who put his power up for sale. What was his price? Gold. She told told the court the bribery scheme started in 2018 with Egyptian native Wael Hana and the senator's wife Nadine Menendez. The two had been friends for years, and that Hana saw an opportunity as a failed businessman. Pomerantz told jurors that Menendez promised to do things to benefit Hana and the government of Egypt which set in motion a web to make good on the bribery

2:12:20 with the help of Hanna's business partner, New Jersey real estate developer Fred Davies. But defense attorney for Menendez, Avi Weitzman told jurors he was never and is not a foreign agent of the government of Egypt. He did not violate the law period Bob was doing his job and he was doing it right He says the gold bars have been in his wife's Lebanese family for years and were listed on a 2022 financial disclosure form. Weitzman told the court, they want you to be blinded by the golden cash and that the government's case rests on little more than guesswork and speculation Thursday morning defense attorneys for Wael Hannah and Fred Dabies will present their opening arguments Yeah I don't believe it for second It's the woman! It's the wife

2:13:03 Yeah, but listen to this if it's been if the gold bars have been in the Lebanese wife's family for years How come he just showed up on a statement in 2022? Yeah because she stole it from the family. I don't know This is a lie goes and make sense gold is fungible there one got one gold bar for the other It was at that one was it this one? I don't know Actually, I think they're probably stamped aren't they don't they have a number the gold bar tend to be yeah They tend to be but all of these politicians. I think the minute you get elected your in it's like hey Hey look at this picture You're mine now, son. Yeah and this guy's wife was Menendez' wife she's the one that was getting all the favors done he's like yes honey I know some other reports like it was in a locked closet i don't have the key to her closet what kind of marriage do you have? Really? What a crock! That's not suspicious

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Assassination Attempt on Slovakian PM Robert Fico

Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico survived an assassination attempt after being shot multiple times in the town of Handlova. The suspect, identified as a 71-year-old writer, reportedly targeted Fico due to his populist, pro-Russian, and anti-American political stances.

robert fico· slovakia· viktor orban· handlova· political assassination

2:14:02 No, no. My wife's got a locked closet she won't let me look in there! Had you ever tried to go in there when she is not at home and check it out and see what she's hiding? No?! So... horrible assassination attempt on the Slovakian Prime Minister. Yeah I have a clip Oh but you know I have an update that came in this morning. Oh play my clip then your update Okay hold on second where is your clip Here we go, here's your clip. Slovakia's populist Prime Minister Robert Fico is fighting for his life He was severely wounded after being gunned down following a political event this afternoon Here's more The 59 year old was hit in the stomach after four shots were fired The shooting happened outside the House of Culture in the town of Handlova where he was meeting with supporters Police have a suspect in custody

2:14:59 The shooting in Slovakia comes three weeks ahead of crucial European Parliament elections, in which populist and hard-right parties in the 27 nation bloc appear poised to make gains. FIATSO a third time premier is staging a political comeback after campaigning on a pro Russian and anti American message critics are worried that the country under Fico's leadership would abandon Slovakia's pro-Western course and follow the direction of Hungary, under populist Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Thousands have repeatedly rallied in the capital and across Slovakia to

2:15:38 to protest FITO's policies. Condemnations of political violence quickly came from leaders across Europe, although no motive for the attack was immediately apparent." Yeah okay so first of all shades of Pim Fortuyn this is exactly what happened with Pim Fortuyn 22 years ago he was about to go into elections they have some some gray beard go out and shoot him kill him Because, you know he might upset the apple cart. And clearly this Slovakian PM is not in on the whole European Union kumbaya thing and oh it was much more like Viktor Orban! Oh no!

2:16:20 And then so they just, they just resulted in killing people. What? Strawman Viktor Orban Yeah well they're just killing people now over this is a political assassination attempt here's the update from this morning Wednesday afternoon This helicopter rushed Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico to the hospital where he spent hours in intensive surgeries Late in the night, one of Slovakia's deputy prime ministers announced that the operations were successful and that FIATSO was no longer in a life-threatening situation. Meanwhile another deputy prime minister held a press conference denouncing the political nature of the attack. So this is the issue what happened it's a political assault

2:17:02 Fico was shot in the abdomen as he greeted a crowd of supporters. Minutes later, footage showed police handcuffing a grey-haired suspect on the ground. Local media have identified the gunman as 71 year old writer and peace activist an identification that has been confirmed by the Slovakian Interior Minister but not officially released by police Several of his political statements could be found on social media, in which he variously called out hatred and extremism advocated for non-violence and supported a pro Russian paramilitary group. Prime Minister Fetso won a third term in September after campaigning on a pro Russian an anti American platform. After his electoral victory, his government immediately halted arms deliveries to Ukraine

2:17:54 Critics have worried that under FISO, Slovakia would abandon the country's pro-Western course and follow the direction of Hungary under populist Prime Minister Viktor Orban. There you go! But you're not on board and so now they're just killing each other I can't see it any other way. A peace activist, a non-violent hater of violence shoots somebody? Yeah yeah oh for sure. No irony there? Oh because we have to go kill people kill people kill people all right now let's talk about the real killing that's going on the real killing

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Ukraine Conscription Laws and Blinken's Kiev Visit

Ukraine has passed a new mobilization law to increase conscription as Russian forces advance near Kharkiv. During a visit to Kiev, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced a $2 billion arms deal, though President Zelensky continues to request more air defense systems.

ukraine· antony blinken· kiev· conscription· patriot missiles

2:18:34 Because we're out of Ukrainian men. They're all dead, we need more! Ukraine urgently needs new soldiers and is increasing pressure on men to sign up The government recently passed a new mobilization law which from this weekend means that Ukrainian man will have two months to register for potential conscription If they don't sign up they'll be punished You either get punished or you die This is insane! They are... the Ukraine girls It's amazing what they're doing. Everyone is just like, oh it's just Ukrainian men who gives a crap. I don't care. Rafa... Yeah that's going to completely alter the gene pool Yes and they already have cankles

2:19:21 Let's be honest. So what do we do? Well, we're gonna help! We're gonna help! We're coming to your aid dude! An update now the US is giving Ukraine another massive round of support as Ukrainian forces battle against a new Russian military offensive U.S Secretary of State Antony Blinken announcing in Kiev today billion dollar arms deal. Most of the money will come from a package approved last month, the funding will provide weapons in the short term invest in Ukraine's defense industrial base as well and allow Ukraine to buy military supplies from other countries Ukrainian troops withdrew from some parts of their country while fighting Russian soldiers in other areas today. Ukraine's president has postponed all upcoming

2:20:06 upcoming foreign trips. Okay, you got two billion. You got 30 seconds what do you want to buy? You want attackums no No, you're not getting attackums which is whatever remember that was always to get him attack ums That word just fell out of vogue because they're not gonna give it to them They don't they're not sincere about this if they used attack ums then they would attack They would blow up Moscow

2:20:43 We can't have that. That would not prolong everything, so instead send Blinken! Tonight the Russians advancing from Ukraine's northeast border A desperate race to evacuate thousands of Ukrainians on the outskirts of Kharkiv She says they are shooting from everywhere Yesterday there was a hit and in front our house burned down Ukraine forced retreat in recent months waiting for Congress to approve weapons now trying to hold the line in villages north of Kharkiv. Secretary of State Blinken arriving in Kiev today, even taking time to jump on stage with a local band playing rockin' in the free world President Zelensky expressing gratitude but saying his country still needs air defense against the Russian barrage specifically Patriot missile batteries. Air defense is the biggest deficit for us, for Kharkiv region because

2:21:37 that people are under attack. Secretary Blinken saying the assistance is on its way. Some of it's already arriving, more of it will be arriving and thats going to make a real difference But the US says it doesn't have enough Patriot missile launchers and is working with other countries to send theirs while Russia is getting critical support from Iran North Korea and China Putin is ramping up yet another offensive against Ukraine in Kharkiv across the east sending wave after wave Russian soldiers Iranian drones, North Korean artillery and tanks. And this week President Putin riding the wave of recent advances in Ukraine will meet with President Xi in Beijing and we'll discuss the war.

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Antony Blinken's Guitar Performance in Kiev Bar

Secretary of State Antony Blinken faced criticism for performing "Rockin' in the Free World" with a local band at a bar in Kiev. The hosts describe the performance as an "embarrassing" staged event that failed to convey the gravity of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

antony blinken· kiev· neil young· rockin' in the free world· guitar

2:22:19 So they send Blinken over to say, don't worry you can spend that two billion on some Patriot missiles from other European countries. That's fine We're not gonna give you a tackums and Zelensky got the script playing along nicely And just to relieve some tension I guess blinkin travels with his guitar because it's a custom It's a left-handed guitar red and I actually ISO'd him playing, and singing. And it's atrocious and embarrassing. Can I throw something in here? So this band is notorious for playing Living In The Free World... and they made the announcement that hey we're gonna have a special guest! Celebrity special guest! It was like Neil Young's coming! Bruce Spurs! Everybody believed Neil Young was going to come

2:23:10 Because of the song and so they packed the place and everything. And here's our special guest Anthony Blinken wearing Yeah, here we go. I was just gonna say when you're over 50 don't wear jeans please they're fighting not just for Ukraine but for the free world And the free world is with you too So maybe we can try something Hey blinkin auto-tune This is the height of embarrassment. It's very bad. Oh, solo! Rip it, rip it baby! He didn't even play this solo... This is an embarrassment he should be fired for doing this? Fired

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

Russian Glide Bomb Technology and War Attrition

Reports indicate that Russia is using retrofitted "glide bombs" equipped with wings and GPS to strike Ukrainian targets from 40 miles away. The hosts discuss the massive stockpile of these bombs and the high casualty rates among Ukrainian soldiers, calling the war a "farce."

glide bombs· kharkiv· su-34· gps· ukraine war

2:24:08 I mean this is worse than Hillary Clinton dancing with her team, remember that? Oh my god. So i did want to play this short ABC report about the intensifying attacks because it is nat pop heaven! Tonight the Russian onslaught in the northeast forcing Ukrainian troops to retreat and civilians to flee You can hear gun battles raging as this police official in the border town of Vovoshansk describes a situation as extremely difficult. Ukraine is fighting back, but Russian forces are pressing ahead

2:24:49 Repeatedly shelling the country's second largest city, Kharkiv just a few dozen miles away. Developments in the northeast and along other parts of the 600 mile front so concerning to President Zelensky that he has postponed all upcoming foreign trips to monitor the fighting It comes as Secretary Blinken announced another $2 billion in aid during his visit Most of it coming from the 60 billion dollars already approved by Congress last month We're rushing ammunition armored vehicles, missiles air defenses. Rushing them to get to the front lines and David President Zelensky may have had to cancel his upcoming foreign trip because of the seriousness in the situation in Kharkiv but Vladimir Putin has tonight arrived in China shoring up support for the war which does seem increasingly to be going his way I mean can you make it any more clear

2:25:39 Nat pop, nat pop, nat pop. Boom! Two words... another explosion I don't have a link to the show notes but i want to recommend something to people which is a new development in these wars they talk about They talk about Iranian drones and this and that That's not what's going on What's really going on now Is that the Russians have retrofitted their supply of half ton, one ton 2,000 pound and 3,000 pound bombs that they've accumulated. And there's an estimated what you can look this up on glide bombs and try to find the daily mail report so they modify these bombs and they take it at SU 34 and they take it up to about 56 thousand feet which I think is altitude get to

2:26:28 40 miles away before even crossing the Ukrainian border and launching these things, and they've got wings and a little GPS device on them. And they glide 40 miles like... not propelled to just glide and then hit these targets accurately supposedly It's an amazing technology and it turns out if you listen to the reports that the Russian, oh you're talking about all the North Koreans and this all these people supplying the Russians up they have 1 million of these bombs that they've had since the 60s. One million! Wow They're gonna launch it there put the wings on every one of them and off they go. They like retrofitted their just as a fascinating

2:27:17 Story about glide bombs, but look at I would recommend. Oh, I have it up It's in the show notes is dynamite it is and and but the thing is they're not sincere about any of this because the attackums have not And remember this was that the discretion of the president The press they're approved They're good to go we can send them over But no you're not gonna get him because it's a farce This war is a farce and there's hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men dead Because of it. Dead! And no outrage, no outrage. Zero. No one cares There's also no video, no natpops, no body parts thrown about Unlike in Gaza Now I want to transition us carefully over to this story By a kind of background or Gaza clip Well can I transition us into it with the protest clip?

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Gaza Protests and Greta Thunberg at Eurovision

The scale and organization of pro-Gaza protests at US universities and the Eurovision Song Contest are discussed. The segment features a critique of Greta Thunberg's involvement in the protests, labeling her a "miserable little doom goblin" for her stance against Israel's participation in the contest.

gaza· eurovision· greta thunberg· israel· zionism

2:28:11 Sure, because this is before you play that don't want to say something. Yeah say so I have to say whoever's really behind this Gaza thing the protesters in the United States at every University and every college it every on bridges and toll plazas in every place in between these people are extremely talented at organizing I mean I've never seen anything So well done in my entire life, and I've seen lots of protests but this is unbelievably good Yes it's well organized. Well funded It's dynamite! And there's a lot of hate about Israel There are a lot of people who hate Israel They hate the Zionists Those damn Zionists

2:28:56 So the Sky News lady, you know the one who's always making fun of stuff. So she made fun of Greta Thunberg at the Eurovision Song Contest and it was just so good she used several adjectives that I just wanted to play one minute of her rant about Greta One lone performer representing Israel was mercilessly bullied by the crowd who booed her, by fellow contestants and even Comi-troll Greta Thunberg. Yeah, that is a very clear example that does say when a country behaves in a way that is unacceptable then Eurovision excludes them. So why not Israel? She really is a miserable little doom goblin isn't she and how wonderful to see her... I just love commie troll and miserable little doom goblin. I like that! Doom goblet

2:30:12 I think you can pay her to show up. I think you can pay her, she...I think she's paid! You know? Why wouldn't she be these as you point out these protests are well organized they're well funded i think you can buy Greta Thunberg to come and protest for you and in fact that like the payer would like to make an offer to protest the podcast industrial complex protest Spotify but we can get her then we'll pay Anyway, it is clear that what Israel is doing is way beyond anything they should be doing. I think at this point even this show has to agree it's gone a bit far. Well since I don't believe any of the

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US Officials Resign Over Israel-Gaza Policy

Several US State and Defense Department officials, including Major Harrison Mann and Josh Paul, have resigned in protest of the Biden administration's support for Israel. They cite violations of international humanitarian law and the use of US-provided weapons in civilian areas of Gaza.

state department· harrison mann· josh paul· gaza· humanitarian law

2:30:58 things anyone's telling us. We don't really even know! We don't know anything because they lie, all the information from both sides of this is a lie Do you have an update? I just have an update. Oh, a Gaza Update. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continues to push back against criticism Israel is not prepared for post-war reality in Gaza Netanyahu basically saying it's impossible to know what's next until the militant group Hamas is defeated. The U.S has been increasingly critical of Israel, citing a large number of civilian casualties as it ramps up its fighting there. The Biden administration is moving ahead with a $1 billion arms package for Israel even as the administration recently halted a planned shipment of 2,000 pound bombs I have a clip that comes from

2:31:46 I think this is TRT, Turkish Radio and Television. That I have not heard any of this information in the United States and it is the rather interesting amount of State Department and Defense Department people who are resigning their jobs over this. Have you heard anything about this? Yes, I have! Every so often it's mentioned in one of these back-and-forth interviews about these guys quitting... People are quitting the State Department left and right Well here we go On Monday, U.S. Army Intelligence Officer Major Harrison Mann publicly resigned from the Defense Intelligence Agency by posting a letter on his LinkedIn profile. The policy that's never been far from my mind for the past six months is the nearly unqualified support for the government of Israel which has enabled and empowered the killing and starvation off tens of thousands off innocent Palestinians

2:32:45 A U.S. State Department report released Friday found that weapons provided by America to Israeli security forces since October 7th were used in violation of international humanitarian law. What we have seen at the same time is those armaments being used to kill, at this point over 34 thousand people in Gaza, of whom over 14 thousand are children. In many cases striking targets in which there was no identified military objective We have seen rules of engagement on the part of Israel that seem contrary to international, both military best practice as well as commonly accepted international law when it comes to the principles of proportionality and discrimination. Josh Paul, former director of U.S. State Department Bureau of Political and Military Affairs

2:33:33 became the highest-level U.S. official to resign just one month after October 7th. He says the administration is avoiding implementing laws that would prevent military support to Israel. We've come to a conclusion similarly, that international humanitarian law has been violated There are both laws and policies in the US that would restrict the flow of arms. So it is clear, I think that the administration is doing this in order to continue the flow of arms despite these specific restrictions that have been placed on shipments for example 2,000 pound bombs And that is why it has not come to any legally binding conclusions. Since Paul's resignation, many more U.S. officials from various government offices have resigned in protest to the administration's pro-Israel policies I had not heard of that and i'm glad you did! I was like...I didn't know that? I don't people were resigning left or right Is this now like 1 billion dollars

2:34:29 Is this... I don't think, by the way. I don't think they're all resigning because of this. What do you think they are resigning over? The Turkish news makes a side because there on one side of the argument That's why play it Of course Yeah i dont believe that true It sounds like cause this has been going on for awhile They just fed up with system at State Department They dont like blinking There is lot of reasons to quit And that one that was exemplified on that particular clip was a guy with the DEI, which is not State Department. Here's what I don't understand... Not DEI but Department of Defense Intelligence Yeah so we know that the numbers come you know The news has been reporting the numbers from the Hamas agency So we have no idea how correct that is But I think

2:35:17 And it's intentional, but I wonder why they're doing it. Why do they keep saying it's a genocide? Because the genocide implies that you just want to wipe all the people out. I don't think there is any evidence of that. They may be wiping them out... But there has to be intent behind genocide and then it feels like your creating a friction point of interpretation that has nothing to do with dead people. You know what I mean? Why do the protesters harp on that? Why does it all have to be genocide, which is polarizing because of the Jewish Holocaust genocide —which some would say supposedly— in World War II! It's like a brain fry you know what i mean? It doesn't make any sense to attack with that as your main point Am I overthinking this?

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Jerry Seinfeld Commencement Walkout at Duke University

A small group of students walked out of Jerry Seinfeld's commencement address at Duke University to protest the war in Gaza. The hosts dismiss the event as "bullcrap news," noting that the vast majority of the 20,000 attendees cheered for the comedian.

jerry seinfeld· duke university· commencement· gaza protest· pop-tart movie

2:36:14 I'm not gonna say you're overthinking it, but i'm kind of surprised you're stunned and shocked by the misuse of the terms to make a political point. Yeah but its a non-political point! No no no...it seems to be working look at the turnout for Well, it is debatable. But to sure definitely seems to me that you got a lot of people in the street Oh! Tons of people and it's so bad that... let me see we gotta go after poor Jerry Seinfeld A moment to celebrate achievement becoming another chance to protest the war in Gaza After a turbulent spring multiple universities facing disruption at graduation including Duke

2:36:58 Dozens of students walked out on Jerry Seinfeld's commencement address Sunday. The comedian was later cheered. I say, use your privilege! I grew up a Jewish boy from New York that is a privilege if you want to be a comedian now explain that to me But is being a Jewish boy in New York privileged? Yeah, because the Jews assume Yes Because Jewish comics and in the comedy community are always seen as naturally superior because they're brought up in a culture of telling gags and jokes So it gives you an advantage because you can deliver material when your little and again right to your older I mean if you ever known anyone has a Jewish person who had who was at the dinner table that

2:37:50 is one of these New Yorkers that likes to tell, do jokes, do material. They'll just go take you to the fantastic. Now I want to mention something about this walkout. There were 20, I think it was 25, It was like 2,500 or more people. Or no 20,000 I think it was 20,000 people at this big commencement to hear Seinfeld and 40 walked out and that became news. It's just bullcrap news. They started to applaud him later. I stopped the report but yeah it is he has a movie to promote which I tried to watch and was kind of tedious. It supposed to be mediocre? Yeah it was okay there were lot of famous people in it which made it kinda funny but then there was this whole

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Biden Administration Tariffs on Chinese EVs and Steel

President Biden announced a 100% tariff on Chinese electric vehicles and a 25% tariff on Chinese steel and aluminum. The hosts argue that this is a continuation of Donald Trump's trade policies and question the impact of the EV tariff since Chinese cars are not currently sold in the US.

joe biden· china· tariffs· electric vehicles· steel

2:38:34 Kind of like January 11th thing for 20 minutes that bugged me. You know, it's like free the Pop-Tart or whatever. Well thanks I won't watch it! You don't want to watch it? I got one more... No actually let's move on because we have The big news of the day we haven't even discussed, but it comes on the heels of this news. After years of warning China President Biden put his pen where his mouth is today quadrupling the tariff on Chinese EV's from 25% to 100%. I'm determined that the future electric vehicles will be made in America by union workers period

2:39:16 The move comes as EVs from Chinese automaker BYD gain traction around the world at about half half the price of U.S.-made cars. One thing that my grandfather used to always tell me are good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't good. Dorian Jimenez owns a Chevy dealership in Oklahoma City I'm glad that our government is going that direction, and the more things we can keep in-house, the greater it can be for us Biden's hikes apply far more than EVs Chinese steel and aluminum will be hit with a 25% tariff. Solar panel cells will go to 50%. And so will Chinese syringes and needles. Biden finally listened to me, he listens to me. Former President Donald Trump hiked tariffs on a much broader swath of Chinese goods in 2018 at the

2:40:06 time Biden argued that would spark a trade war, raising costs for everyone. We're going after the wrong thing with China so what is this about? Well, he's a big... this is another Hail Mary that the administration is trying to pull. We know we can't do that because of the Mexican free trade agreement. Yeah I know the car is down there but taxing EV from China 100% or whatever it supposed to do what electric cars from China? Have you ever seen an electric car from China in this country? No

2:40:44 There's not one in here. What are you taxing? Nothing! No, but the tax on steel and aluminum... Yeah but that's just a minus 25%. It's not the same as 100% But this is Trump policy. This is all Trump policy everyone knows it By the way I heard an analysis that his tariffs really didn't do anything That didn't have a lot of effect actually They just raised prices on stuff When you said this was the unspoken news, I thought you were going to talk about the clip I have which was the Biden-Trump debate. No! That's a precursor... Oh, to the tribe debacle? Yes! Here in Washoe County Nevada home to Reno Republican Tracy Hilton... I'm sorry that's wrong. That's the wrong clip no well what I'm sure you have the clip where is it? The Trump-Biden debate clip where is it

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Biden and Trump Agree to Presidential Debates

President Biden and Donald Trump have agreed to two televised debates, the first to be hosted by CNN in June and the second by ABC in September. The June debate will notably feature no live audience and muted microphones, breaking from the traditional Commission on Presidential Debates format.

joe biden· donald trump· cnn· abc· presidential debates

2:41:40 Biden is under Biden. Yes, you have NTD oh that's interesting after some back and forth Biden and Trump now both agreed to two debates the first one by CNN happening in just six weeks on June 27th another one by ABC on September 10th. Biden, on Wednesday afternoon said he's looking forward to these debates while denying that he is doing so early in June because he is worried about his polling. But Trump now asking for four debates including one by Fox on October 2nd saying Americans need to hear more about inflation the border and chaos in the world

2:42:16 Biden's campaign meanwhile slamming the door for more debates, accusing Trump of playing games and insisting that Biden only wants two one-on-one debates. Here is Biden in a video on Wednesday morning. Watch. Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then he hasn't shown up for debates Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again Well make my day pal I'll even do it twice And the formats of these debates are still being debated and could surprise many. Trump says he wants large venues to make him more exciting while Biden's campaign wants no live audience, saying noisy spectacles aren't helpful. The June CNN debate for example won't have an audience and will also be the earliest televised presidential debate on record it also marks the first time that candidates break away from a bipartisan group that has run these debates for decades It is also the first time the debates are set before either candidate becomes the official party nominee All the surprises come as Biden & Trump

2:43:10 already exchanging fire, though not yet on stage. of Biden's ad, here it is. Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020 and since then he hasn't shown up for debate now he's acting like he wants to debate me again well make my day pal I'll even do it twice so let's pick the dates Donald I hear you're free on Wednesdays So the free on Wednesdays? Is that when there's prison visitation? Is that the joke? No no, Wednesday on the New York case is the day that the court takes off

2:43:49 Okay, now I want to play the NBC report about this so-called agreement debate and then we shall discuss. Tonight the stage is set for the first TV confrontation between President Biden and former president Trump in more than three years The agreement punctuating a dizzying day of deal making. The president posting this video responding two weeks of pressure from Mr. Trump for a debate Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then he hasn't shown up for debates Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again Well make my day, pal The president taunting his rival over his Manhattan hush money trial that has kept him in court four days a week

2:44:26 So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays? There it is! There are traditionally three debates the president offering to Mr Trump who refused all of the primary debates quickly saying yes and pushing for more writing... Within hours, a pair of debate dates were set one in late June another in September. Both sides bypassing the Commission on presidential debates proposal for three fall showdowns President Biden's decision comes after former president Trump repeatedly challenged him to debate

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Debate Strategy and Potential Democratic Candidate Swap

The hosts analyze the debate agreement, suggesting that the "no audience" rule is designed to help President Biden use a hidden earpiece for cues. They also speculate that holding the debate early in June is a defensive move by the Biden camp to prevent a "switcheroo" with Gavin Newsom at the convention.

cnn· dana bash· jake tapper· gavin newsom· earwig

2:45:07 You can see we have an empty podium right here to my right. You know what that is? That's for Joe Biden, I'm trying to get him to debate In already unprecedented campaign the first crucial clash now the earliest in modern history So this does prove obviously that politics is show business for ugly people Your thoughts on this John Well, first of all is something that no one none of these analysts have picked up on. Is the real reason Joe wants no audience Because the Democrats are just a Democrat centered thing. It's gonna be CNN it's going to people two people both of them have called Trump Hitler both of them Yeah, Tapper and Dana Bash Uh-huh And so the reason he has to have no audience because they could've loaded up with a bunch of pro Biden People would be fine is you can't hear the earwig The IFB exactly exactly

2:46:04 He's gonna have a piece deep in his ear, it's gonna be one of those canal items. Joe! Joe! Joe! And he's gonna probably be talking to it, but you can't hear it if you're in a giant crowd that are all clapping and hooting and hollering. You won't be able to pick up the cues Joe is going to be talked through the whole thing and he's gonna be repeating what whoever was talking to him This is a scam Yes, and of course its entertainment Gambit to get some money for Disney and for a scene. And by the way, you know It's kind of a joke to say, you know We don't want an audience on CNN because they don't have an audience So that's not that's not very hard it's just I mean what is there? Do they think they can do something here? I understand They want the microphones muted while the other person is talking but what kind of debate is this in

2:47:04 It's not a debate. I don't know, well it'll be entertaining like you said it's entertainment and this will be interesting. It'll be bonanza ratings! It'll be fantastic Well for CNN they always have big numbers so what is they can they can't sell into it? It's not part of their you know They can't use that as a package sale or anything This is just a big bump in their numbers for one day And all the other networks are demanding that CNN, because ABC's already agreed to this. That they allow the other people to carry the feed!

2:47:40 No, no you have to know no. We don't want to do that because they want to get their numbers super high but Most media peoples think that they're gonna be They're gonna be hounded into sharing the feed as it cuz is just a national thing It should share the feed so they'll show up maybe on all the networks and then CNN won't get that bump I think it was a good move though. For the Biden camp, they made a move and it was a bold one because they know their guy is retarded They do. But it was a bold move and I think it put Trump on his hind leg there for a second, I think he has to figure out- And they're gonna jack him up with whatever they give him for this State of the Union speech so he'll be good for about an hour? Now you don't think that there's something here that could be a quick switcheroo or gambit afoot, something we swap it out in comes Gavin Newsom

2:48:40 The thinking again goes the following, in the following way. They want to do this debate early enough like in June to prevent like a switcheroo during the convention or anything, because Biden will be established. Now he's the... no matter what you think they're not going to switch. Oh so it's a defensive move against strife inside the Democrat camp? That's what one analysis would have yeah I think that's exactly right So you put him up there He's already now is you know we can't switch them out now Yeah, that's okay. That makes sense no matter what happens they can't swap him out Okay well it'll be great you know what's great about it? It's on a Wednesday It's good for the show We love that I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab Yeah On NO AGENDA

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Associate Executive Producer Credits and Donations

A second round of donor acknowledgments includes producers from Maryland, Australia, New Mexico, and Canada. The hosts thank the community for their "treasure" contributions, which allow the show to remain independent and ad-free.

parkville· queensland· roswell· huntersville· alberta

2:49:40 I want to thank some people who came in $50 or above as producers of episode 1660 and we got some title changes, some nightings and a whopper of a meetup list. Very excited about that! So John why don't you take us through these donations? Yeah we're gonna start with John Kehanya or Kihana in Parkville Maryland with 150 dollars then we have Gary Coxon Queensland, Australia with 12661. If you want to run that through a calculator then may bump up the 200 I'm not sure but he came in at 12661. I don't think it quite makes it Wow! It's really raining here

2:50:23 Lucas Williams, Roswell New Mexico. Good old Roswell $100. Kevin McLaughlin already, 8008 the only one today for boobs. Christopher Dechter 5678 James Edmondson in South Plainfield New Jersey 5510 this goes down fast by the way Devon O'Connell in Boylston Massachusetts 5272 and now we're at the 50s and just just $50 donors name and location starting with, and it's not a big list. Starting with Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Jared Yaw in Nashville, Real Deals Now! In San Antonio Texas, Kevin Dills in Huntersville North Carolina, Diane Schwannaback in Johnsburg Illinois, Christian Freeman is San Marcos Texas, M Dana Ferelli in Los Alamitos California

2:51:21 Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. If you live in North Stonington. Phillip Ballou in Louisville Kentucky Michael Thompson and New Brownfells Texas Kelly McAdill in Mission Hills, Kansas. Chris Lewinsky in Alberta, Sherwood Park Michael Perot-Perott in Salem Oregon Integrated Fluid Systems Inc., in Blythewood South Carolina Sir Greg in Newport North Carolina and last on our list is Leanne Shipley in Covington Washington No we have one more! We have one more Sarah Sarah A Martin Oh I'm sorry Yes Yeah I'm sorry Sarah Martin in Lanark

2:52:03 Ontario Canada, she's got a birthday. Happy Birthday to Amy! Best sister in the universe! No, that is beautiful thank you all very much for supporting us and again thank you to those people who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity and again everybody you can support us one way or the other these days you can go without that One Value Meal You can support the best podcast in the universe with $5. Do it every single month, forego the horrible meal and support us we appreciate it and again thanks to our executive and associate executive producers everybody deserves a karma today thank you. You've got Karma

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Birthday Wishes and Knighting of Sir Justin

The hosts celebrate several birthdays within the producer community and perform a knighting ceremony for Sir Justin, Protector of the Grove. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "Hookers and Blow" menu and instructions for receiving No Agenda signet rings.

knighthood· vine grove· loxahatchee· signet rings· round table

2:52:41 Yeah, we got some birthdays. Hold on a second let me get the list here We have Eric who wishes Lauren Palliwoda a happy birthday Celebrated yesterday drone dork will wish his keeper Melissa Happy one It's her birthday today and he himself is celebrating tomorrow isn't that coincidental? Brennan Lawton turns 30 on the 18th Eric Maxwell Hello Eric Mackey, celebrating on May 18th. Alan Fiston wishes his beautiful daughter Isabella a happy birthday for June 6th so that's coming up I guess and his smoking hot and smart wife Joni will be celebrated yesterday So it's a bladed happy birthday And Sarah Martin wishes her sister Amy a happy birthday as we just heard Happy Birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!

2:53:36 We have a title change. Let me see, we have Kieran Hennessey that's right becomes the Baron of Donnybrook as requested and we thank you for supporting us with multiple amounts necessary and your now a Baron so we really appreciate that. Thank you so much! We have a layaway night we want to celebrate today with a knighting and this comes from Justin Heiner He's from Vine Grove, Kentucky. He has been a listener since my first appearance on Joe Rogan Experience. Joe Rogan Donation! I am fresh off the night layaway program that my smoking hot rocket wife Natalie put me on as an anniversary gift a couple of years ago. He says best gift ever! Quick shout out to my five sons and future knights Gavin Garrett Grayson Landon and Jack those are good names Those are strong men names. I like that

2:54:29 Adam, watching your journey to faith in Jesus has been awesome. John you are like a fine wine You just get better with age How tired of you hearing that one? It's pretty bad This is truly as the best pod in the universe So it's all who agree raise a glass to hoping these two never find an exit strategy too late Podcasters in residence is on deck. I would like to be knighted Sir Justin Protector of the Grove, Round Table New York Strip Truffle Fries and a Diet Coke! And i think a de-douching is an order... Oh okay you've got me, you've got me. You've been dedouched He says thanks guys bye okay we're ready for him? I got a sword if you're set with the sword Do you have your sword? Your fine wine sword? Here it is. Gotcha. Fine wine sword

2:55:17 All right, Justin Heiner hopping up here and John of Jupiter. Both of you today become knights at the Noah-Jenner Round Table I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Justin Protector of the Grove and Sir John of Jupiter Lover of the Loxahatchee and Emissary To The Perpetual Pioneers For you gentlemen we have Hooker's & Blow, Rent Boys And Chardonnay But at request We have Street Meat In Everglades Heat New York Strip Truffle Fries And A Diet Coke And of course the usual fare of bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts. We got your ginger ale and gerbils we got your breast milk and pablum you're sparkly oh he's got the bong hits and bourbon yes! Oh and of course the mutton and meat there it is that's what I was looking for. And with your accoutrements there gentlemen please go to noagenda rings dot com send us off your ring size as a handy sizing guide there and we will send you your signet rings your night rings post hastes

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Global No Agenda Meetup Schedule

A comprehensive list of upcoming listener meetups is read, covering locations such as Charlotte, Richmond, Fort Wayne, Cincinnati, and Athens, Greece. Listeners are encouraged to visit NoAgendaMeetups.com to find or start local gatherings.

charlotte· richmond· fort wayne· cincinnati· athens

2:56:12 which of course come with wax to seal your important correspondence and a certificate of authenticity. Thank you, and especially for our layaways we love it when people become knights on the layaway plan Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable Wow, okay. We have quite the list here today we've got Charlotte Thursday's Thirsty Third Thursday monthly meetup seven o'clock in Charlotte, Charlotte North Carolina at Edds Tavern on Saturday ITM Richmond that'll be at noon and that is a triple crossing in Fulton that's a change of venues to take note

2:56:49 The Fort Wayne Cinco de Mayo Club 33 at 1 o'clock, and Mitchell's in Fort Wayne Indiana. The NA Local 512 Barbecue Casa De Morgan Baron Scott one o'clock see the website noagentomeetups for more details noagentomeetups.com. The Shrunken Amygdala Support Group meets a two o'clock at the Taft's Brewporium in Cincinnati Ohio. The Connecticut Meet-Up 2 o'clock on Saturday at the Truckbar in Higginham Connecticut We have Red 33, Red 333 Boston John Reed Spring 2024 meetup at 2 30 Castle Island Brewery in Northwood Massachusetts. Insane Diego monthly meet up on Saturday at 330 at the roundtable pizza Rancho Bernardo

2:57:31 And that's in San Diego. The Central Ohio meetup at 5 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio on Sunday our next show day the Indy NA tribal tell your mother revised Meet up 3 o'clock at the dugout bar great place We've been there Tina and I went to visit Indianapolis Indiana the knowage in the southwest New Hampshire 333 at the local burger and Keene New Hampshire and the Charleston semi-regular meet up 4 o'clock at the Royal American and Charleston South Carolina We have many more coming up this month. Athens, Greece on May 22nd I hope you guys send in the report and of course the Amsterdam The Netherlands meetup on June 15th is gonna be very exciting indeed and You know Tantaniel will show up with a scrapbook so excited those who are new to meetups

2:58:16 Go to noagendameetups.com to see all of them, see all of them listed if you can't find one near you start one it's easy! NoagendaMeetUps.com! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Yay, yay! Like a party. I only have one ISO. I don't think it's very good actually. Shall I roll it out for you? It's my one ISO. Yes please. Please 100%. No not again. That's all I got. Hopefully you have something better. I have two that are better but let's start with absolutely true. Absolutely true

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Good News: 102-Year-Old Volunteer Shirley Schultz

The "Good News" segment features Shirley Schultz, a 102-year-old three-time cancer survivor who continues to volunteer three days a week. Schultz attributes her longevity to liking herself and others, and she enjoys single malt scotch and wine tastings in her spare time.

shirley schultz· st. mary's· volunteer· cancer survivor· single malt scotch

2:59:05 Not bad, not bad. I like it. Clear? It's to the point Yes it is And then best thing Best thing to ever happen to the internet Yeah okay that's the winner right there You knew that was gonna win That's beautiful! I love it! Good news, good good news Time for some good news as we wind up our broadcast day John what do we have today? It's about a 102 year old woman's birthday And she is a hard-working volunteer and she just keeps on truckin'. You know who you sound like? Who was that guy on the Today Show, the weather guy he used to do... We've got a shout out to the 100th! What's his name? Not... ah. The big fat guy. Yeah, dead guy

2:59:49 He's dead now. What was his name? Alright. Now, St Mary celebrated one of their longtime volunteers yesterday. Shirley Schultz just turned 102. Our Jessica Livingstone was at the celebration where the birthday girl danced the party away and shared a little advice. Sholes, a three-time cancer survivor has been volunteering for St. Mary's for more than two decades she sorts papers and does what she calls the grant work because she says it's what keeps her going. You give of yourself and community gives back to you so it works two ways is really very important." Shirley's life is a whirlwind with heirlooms for hospice on Monday, St. Mary's on Wednesday and lunch with her friends on Friday but Scholl confides she could be busier in case you're looking for a volunteer. So Monday Wednesday and Friday I'm booked but I'm open

3:00:43 for Tuesday and Thursday if anybody's aware. To anyone hoping to make it as far as she has, she shares this life advice... But you have to like yourself so you can like others and help others. You have to want to do that. Shirley's spice for life never stops! For her it's all been a grand intoxicating adventure My single malt scotch in my wine tasting and my traveling all over the world drives my family crazy. I was in Africa celebrating my 95th birthday on a camping trip." So giving and loving, her door is always open to new and old friends. 5-530 the news and the wine i have any kind of snacks you want so come on over happy birthday Shirley

3:01:31 And here's to many, many more. That's great. I mean if, I'm gonna be the vaping granny! I'm gonna be the vaping grandpa! Hey! Hey give me a single malt scotch and I'll vape in your face! Good news everybody we love the good news segments very controversial

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Show Outro and End of Show Mixes

The show concludes with a preview of upcoming content regarding the Kendrick Lamar and Drake feud. The hosts sign off from Fredericksburg, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, followed by a series of "End of Show Mixes" featuring themes of bird flu, government skepticism, and Antony Blinken's guitar playing.

fredericksburg· silicon valley· drake· kendrick lamar· h5n1

3:02:14 Very controversial, very controversial. Amongst the grouches out there. A very controversial segment let me tell you. Yeah I hear good news! I hate good news hey we got some more facts coming up next if you want to know about the beef between Kendrick Lamar and uh... The other guy yeah what's his name? Yeah that guy Kendrick Lamar Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Canadian. Drake. Drake. And it's implications on black America. It's all coming up next on noagendastream.com, trollroom.io and in your modern podcast apps end of show mixes I think we got some good ones hog of short fuse Professor Jay Jones always wraps up the previous show and we've got some Leo Lapute classic Good stuff Coming to you from Fredericksburg Texas the heart of the Texas Hill Country FEMA region number six in the morning everybody

3:03:12 I'm Adam Curry. Again from northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday please join us looking forward to it in the meantime remember us at dvorak dot org slash na no agenda donations dot com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such I got no agenda when it comes to these tracks Rapid rails, no conspiracy theory of spitting facts Let them do the research back here with some C-SPAN Expose the memes won't you bow to your kings As they bless you with knighthood TSA is grabbing ball sacks from the back To make your flight good It's for security they say just a small price to pay Get your civil liberties taken away

3:04:00 They think I'm paranoid, they think I'm paranoid They think I'm paranoid cause they don't like what I say They think I'm paranoid, they think I'm paranoid They think I'm paranoid cause they do not like what i say They think I'm paranoid You think I'm paranoid? They think I'm paranoid Cause they dont'like what I say They think I'm paranoid You think I'm paranoid They think I'm paranoid Cause they dont'like what I say In the morning till the resources and shifts have ceased Curry and my man John C. Our formula is simple, we hit em in the mouth And I hit them in the mouth To listen to what im talking about Don't let your free country go Because you wanna give it up too fast and reactin' too slow

3:04:45 Spending all our money in the land where the poppies grow Bring it back, ask some Harry, man you know They think I'm paranoid, they think I'm paranoid They think I'm paranoid cause they don't like what i say They think I'm paranoid, cause they don't like what i say. Time to celebrate because the bird flew. It's very fishy! 11 years of colder weather we need a no agenda fear scale. What? Just in time for pride month do you have a scarf there are new fears in this country about the potential impact

3:05:34 of the H5N1 bird flu on humans. It's a money-making scheme, this has to be rejected it's fake! H5N1 is mutating into a form that could spread from human to human A lot of people getting worried I saw nothing The virus is now spread among dairy cattle across nine different states This is bullcrap and this is a hoax We gotta have queers now. If they have birth through, do they drop dead? It's only a matter of time. Hospitalizations for COVID are at an all-time low but nothing got blowed up. Live with it queer! So how worried should we be right now? Get off my lawn! Telephone poles were on fire... The risk to you right now is very low

3:06:19 Breaking! Typhoid Mary. Call the herd Non-binary, no binary No nonary And coronal mass ejections What is going on? Where is it? How widely has it spread? They're phonies They're all phonies We've been duped The alarm bell should really start going off Rare severe geomagnetic storm warning He actually played their song It says that piece of crap they play The winner was Joe Biden It is scary and it does sound scary AHHHHHH The blue haired people are all upset with me. Die you slaves, die! Petrochemicals and sawdust is now food Increase in cancer mortality after third COVID dose I love it Dead viral fragments in milk Europe is lost Figure out what the dominant strain's gonna be Satan on the way I think We're going away this not gonna end well for you

3:07:14 Now that's the winning song. A lot of protesting, telling your kid, you're a mom? I'm good to go! It is scary and it does sound scary Even the smallpox vaccine of course started smallpox epidemics, duh Superstar not on the list I want to introduce the biggest fans of Hugh Gray, Anthony Blinken The denizens of a bar in Kiev. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, he went to the bar and jammed with the local Ukrainian rock band. He was wearing jeans and black shirt because he's so cool! For a war-torn country that is facing genocidal demolition it would be cool if you can jam and party with people who are drinking at other places all the time. They have unlimited... they will be funded forever

3:08:00 And it was obviously for the cameras. This was all planned and all staged, who is this for exactly? It does not send a message of desperation on the part of Ukraine. Secretary of State Blinken jamming in a bar in Kiev while you're forced to cough up tens of billions of dollars that we don't have before the war there are too many failed theater kids actors and musicians and politics The actual band they were told someone famous was going to come and play with them They were told it was Neil Young Keep on giving A to Ukraine. Keep on A to Ukraine. The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A Best thing to ever happen to the internet