Episode 1653 · Sunday, 21 April 2024

Twigs

A courthouse self-immolation, the NPR whistleblower fallout, and the strategic parallels between the Vietnam War and modern Gaza reveal a tightening grip on global information and resources.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 25m listen | 44 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1653

About this episode

Max Azzarello set himself on fire outside the Manhattan courthouse during the Donald Trump hush money trial, distributing a Substack manifesto alleging a global Ponzi scheme involving Harvard and cryptocurrency. The incident coincided with a fatal helicopter crash in Kenya that killed Chief of Defence Forces Francis Ogolla, a figure previously linked to election result controversies involving President William Ruto. These events underscore a week of high-stakes geopolitical instability and domestic unrest.

NPR CEO Katherine Maher faces scrutiny over her family’s ties to IBM and international intelligence, while veteran editor Uri Berliner resigned after exposing a total lack of viewpoint diversity at the network. In the Middle East, Dr. Michael Hudson argues that U.S. strategy in Gaza mirrors Vietnam-era 'Strategic Hamlets' to secure the Leviathan gas field and offshore real estate. Meanwhile, the House of Representatives passed a $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine and Israel as Speaker Mike Johnson invoked Churchillian rhetoric to justify a reversal on border security priorities. Surveillance also expands domestically as President Biden signed the FISA Section 702 reauthorization, effectively turning private businesses into potential state informants.

President Joe Biden claimed his uncle was eaten by cannibals in Papua New Guinea, a story flatly contradicted by official military records of the 1944 plane crash. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the absurdity of the Kennedy family endorsing Biden over RFK Jr. and the strange media push claiming Taylor Swift’s music provides endorphin-based health benefits. The program concludes with a knighting ceremony for Sir Someone of the Green Valley and a look at the $30 million Garda World heist in Los Angeles.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Podcast Introduction and Headphone Ear Discomfort

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry describes experiencing "headphone ear" due to prolonged use of over-the-ear monitoring equipment during production. The hosts briefly discuss the trade-offs between high-fidelity monitoring and the comfort of consumer devices like AirPods.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· texas hill country· silicon valley· remco· airpods· audio quality control

00:00 Let's steal it! Shooting fish in a barrel and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where we remind people, kick out the jams. Kick out the jams. I'm John C. DeBlake. Morning Buzzkill. In the morning. All right, you had some sugar this morning.

00:39 There he is everybody. I will warn you up front, I have headphone ear. That's Remco. What? I have headphone ear. What does that mean? You got a big bunch of mold growing inside your ear? No, I've had my headphones on so long in the past few days, I don't know exactly why. But you know how your ear can... You went to sleep? You know how your ear can just hurt? You know what I mean? It what you don't know that and what am I asking you mr. Speaker man, and you're not asking me I'm asking you what yeah, so Then the your ear just hurts the outside of your ear because it's been trapped by my over-the-ear headphones Yeah, yeah, so I'm just saying I might have to I might have to do

01:27 This from time to time just to give my ear some rest. Why don't you just go dweebish and wear the white plugs and everything else you use this for? Yeah, right. Hey everybody, I've got AirPods. It sounds so groovy, doesn't it? No, I gotta be able to monitor, man. I'm in QC here, quality control. AQC, audio quality control. Gotta make sure it's all good. It's all good. Did you hear about the helicopter crash? Yeah, I did. It's like, if it turns out that guy that got killed, yeah, was the one of the opponents. I know. So let me just read the headlines so people hear this. Helicopter crash in Kenya kills defense chief and nine senior officers. Now, what were you saying about the other guy who got killed on his way to Vegas?

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Kenya Helicopter Crash Kills Defense Chief Francis Ogolla

A helicopter crash in Kenya resulted in the death of Chief of Defence Forces Francis Ogolla and nine other senior military officers. The incident occurred shortly after takeoff in a remote area of the country. The hosts note that Ogolla had previously been involved in a controversy regarding the attempt to overturn President William Ruto's election results.

kenya· francis ogolla· william ruto· helicopter crash· defense chief· nairobi

01:27 This from time to time just to give my ear some rest. Why don't you just go dweebish and wear the white plugs and everything else you use this for? Yeah, right. Hey everybody, I've got AirPods. It sounds so groovy, doesn't it? No, I gotta be able to monitor, man. I'm in QC here, quality control. AQC, audio quality control. Gotta make sure it's all good. It's all good. Did you hear about the helicopter crash? Yeah, I did. It's like, if it turns out that guy that got killed, yeah, was the one of the opponents. I know. So let me just read the headlines so people hear this. Helicopter crash in Kenya kills defense chief and nine senior officers. Now, what were you saying about the other guy who got killed on his way to Vegas?

02:21 I don't know about the guy who got killed on his way to Vegas. Oh, okay. Tell me about that. No, that was the guy who got killed a while ago. Oh no, this guy got this guy who got killed in the chopper. Yeah, this yeah, this would like half the cabinet. This is Kenya. Kenya? Is it Kenya or Kenya? It's Kenya. It's Kenya. It's one of the two. This guy was the guy who tried to overturn Ruta, who's the head of the country. Oh, that's right. Oops. Oopsie. Tried to throw his election over and now he's dead. Yeah, bad idea. That's a shame. Darn helicopters. Can't trust them. With your permission, I'd like to start with Max Azzarello.

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Max Azzarello Self-Immolation and Substack Manifesto Analysis

Max Azzarello set himself on fire outside the Manhattan courthouse during the Donald Trump hush money trial. Authorities labeled Azzarello a conspiracy theorist after he distributed pamphlets alleging a global Ponzi scheme involving Harvard, the Ivy League, and cryptocurrency. The hosts analyze his Substack manifesto, noting his claims about "The Simpsons" writers and the financial connections between FTX and political elites.

max azzarello· donald trump· manhattan· substack· ponzi scheme· ftx· the simpsons

03:05 Does this name ring a bell for you? I guess not, huh? That's like a softball. I could have just pretty much said a lot of different funny things. But yes, please start with Max Azzarello. Azzarello. Yes. Yes. Max Azzarello is the guy who burned himself at the Trump trial. Yes, it was. He has a hilarious... Well, I wouldn't call it... It's not meant to be funny. Well, allow me to give you some background. First of all, not fake, real guy, not a stuntman. Azzarello and some of his thinking was known to me before this happened through a friend of mine who was asked me not to discuss it. So I won't. Okay, well, why are you discussing it? No, not to discuss that part. I'm going to discuss him.

03:59 It's real, because immediately, like, oh, look at this, this is fake, phony, stuntman. No, no, no. The guy actually, actually burned himself alive. And right away, what was the first thing we heard? Right away, right away, within seconds from the police chief, from everybody, the reporters on the scene, it's in this clip. Tonight, the full jury of 12 people and six alternates officially sworn in to hear the hush money trial of former President Trump. But it was a chaotic and disturbing scene just across the street from the courthouse steps, putting everyone on edge. Video capturing a man setting himself on fire in the park area reserved for protesters.

04:38 bright orange flames engulfing his body shortly after 1.30. I heard someone scream he's going to set himself on fire. I turned around and I saw a man dump liquid on himself on his face and he immediately lit himself with a lighter or something and everyone was screaming. There were some frantic moments as police looked for a fire extinguisher. Police managing to extinguish the blaze after several minutes before an ambulance arrived to take him to the hospital in critical condition. His exact motivation tonight unclear, but police say they see no connection between the incident and the trial of Mr. Trump.

05:24 We do not believe he is, uh, this was targeting any particular person or any particular group. We just right now label it as a sort of a conspiracy theorist and we're going from there. Authorities say he threw pamphlets in the air before lighting himself on fire. The pamphlets seem to be propaganda based, uh, almost like a conspiracy theory type of pamphlet. Some information in regards to Ponzi schemes. Okay. So you must ask yourself, why was his entire sub stack not deleted? This is something that usually happens immediately after something weird goes down. The manifesto's gone, it's no longer there, it's not available, they took it away, they had it taken down because you're intended to read them. And as you know, I... It's solidified, it's a conspiracy, just conspiracy, just wacky, crazy, nut job.

06:20 As you know, I like to read things from so-called nut jobs. We have talked for years about Ted Kaczynski's Unabomber Manifesto, Industrial Society and Its Future, which is something everybody should read. We're kind of right in the middle of that right now. I only wish I'd I had been able to know him to see that his amygdala was imploding. Nobody would listen to the guy. And this is, by the way, why this podcast and meetups are important. If you feel like no one's listening to you and your crazy conspiracy theories, stick around. So I read everything. Everything he has, all of the sub stacks. And I have to say he's not wrong about some things.

07:03 Then I just wanted to discuss it briefly, the things that he talked about, because I think there's some validity to the Ponzi schemes. Because we saw this exactly with FTX, Sam Bankman-Fried, all this money being flushed to universities, to interest groups, voter fraud, politicians, corrupt groups in Ukraine. So he went really deep down that rabbit hole. And this is why we really haven't been told much about FTX. And we just threw the autistic kid in jail, or really his parents. And this guy points out a lot about the Ivy League

07:39 colleges, he says all of that is corrupt. But I have no doubt, he says all these crypto exchanges, the Silicon Valley bank collapse, which was heavily invested in crypto, all these altcoins, I think there are some interesting points that he made and also that 27 of the Simpsons writers were from Harvard. I didn't check it, but I'm going to just take it at face value. Meant to discourage us as meaningless drones. He says all of this stuff coming from the universities, especially Israel-Gaza is all meant to facilitate confusion. His basic point is it's a big club and you're not in it. The COVID market collapse, checkmark recovery, money funneled out of Twitter by Elon, of course, he thinks that's intended to crash and burn. Tesla with Bitcoin and Dogecoin and all of that being funneled away.

08:38 Elizabeth Holmes scam, Richard Branson projects, the Titan submarine. It's an interesting entertaining read, not something we should just throw away. That's all I had to say about him. What? What? I thought you were going to go into an exposition. I have nothing on this by the way and I read all this stuff too and I read his pamphlets and I And I will say it's highly entertaining. Yeah. And there's something to the crypto Ponzi scheme. I like that. I like the crypto Ponzi scheme, but you know, that has to execute before we can say anything. Well, but it has. I mean, that's what FTX was. That was billions of dollars that was slushed in and out. And everyone's made whole. I mean, the whole thing is I think there's a lot to it.

09:31 I just don't give Harvardians that much credit for being that into anything. I think... Undeniable, The Simpsons has predicted a lot of stuff. He goes over the... well, it's been over 30 or 40 or 100 years and it's a goofball satire. They're gonna end up, you know, just predicting stuff by accident. But I think he exaggerates the predictions. takes them too seriously and it's almost like comical because it is still a cartoon and nobody's been really watching it for the last decade.

10:11 He was a little over the top. Yeah, of course. I don't take him seriously at all. The dude set himself on fire. Hello? He obviously had issues. Yes, he was a lost soul. He obviously had issues. But there was a lot, I thought, that was very interesting. And without a doubt... I thought it was entertaining, period. Okay, well, I thought it was interesting beyond entertaining and people should read it for themselves. And it's intended for you to read it to to call it a crackpot, whack-a-doodle conspiracy theory. That's why they leave it up. It's very, that's not the normal thing. Well, the one point you make, which I go along with, is why is it up? Yeah. So you read it. And all the old stuff. He's got all his old stuff. The crazier stuff is actually in the background. And yes, that normally gets taken down. But then again, if I'm thinking, I'm in San Francisco, I'm running Substack, and I'm thinking, we're going to take this down,

11:08 Has anyone asked us to take it down? No, but normally people just take it down. Yeah, we're getting views. We're getting sub-stack loot watchers. We're not taking it down for a good reason. A little follow up on Catherine Marr, the new NPR chief. Yeah, well, listen to this. Her dad Her dad was Gordon Roberts Meyer. He passed away in 2020 and one of our producers dug up his obituary from Hoyt Funeral Home. Let me just read a little. Gordon Roberts Meyer, retired vice president of commodities operations and spiritual Parisian, died October 5th, 2020 in Norwalk, Connecticut of complications from alcoholism.

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Katherine Maher Family History and Spooky IBM Connections

NPR CEO Katherine Maher's family background is examined following the discovery of her father's obituary. Gordon Roberts Maher, who worked for IBM in Saint-Germain-des-Prés, France, was rumored in family lore to have been a post-war spy. The obituary details his familiarity with the Port of Aden and his roles at Goldman Sachs and UBS, suggesting a lineage of intelligence-adjacent careers.

katherine maher· npr· gordon roberts maher· ibm· cia· spooky· obituary

10:11 He was a little over the top. Yeah, of course. I don't take him seriously at all. The dude set himself on fire. Hello? He obviously had issues. Yes, he was a lost soul. He obviously had issues. But there was a lot, I thought, that was very interesting. And without a doubt... I thought it was entertaining, period. Okay, well, I thought it was interesting beyond entertaining and people should read it for themselves. And it's intended for you to read it to to call it a crackpot, whack-a-doodle conspiracy theory. That's why they leave it up. It's very, that's not the normal thing. Well, the one point you make, which I go along with, is why is it up? Yeah. So you read it. And all the old stuff. He's got all his old stuff. The crazier stuff is actually in the background. And yes, that normally gets taken down. But then again, if I'm thinking, I'm in San Francisco, I'm running Substack, and I'm thinking, we're going to take this down,

11:08 Has anyone asked us to take it down? No, but normally people just take it down. Yeah, we're getting views. We're getting sub-stack loot watchers. We're not taking it down for a good reason. A little follow up on Catherine Marr, the new NPR chief. Yeah, well, listen to this. Her dad Her dad was Gordon Roberts Meyer. He passed away in 2020 and one of our producers dug up his obituary from Hoyt Funeral Home. Let me just read a little. Gordon Roberts Meyer, retired vice president of commodities operations and spiritual Parisian, died October 5th, 2020 in Norwalk, Connecticut of complications from alcoholism.

12:00 Gordon, known as Rob, or less frequently, more cherished to him, Gordo, was born in Noir, Connecticut, growing up in Wilton, Connecticut for a time with his elder brother Jim, elder sister Pamela, and younger sister Marsha. The family then decamped to Saint-Germain-du-Prez, France, as a result of their father's work at IBM, where family lore contends he may or may not have been a post-war spy. Hello! Says it right there in the obituary. And then it goes on to basically, I mean, this guy worked at all kinds of spooky organizations. It sounds like the apple did not fall far from the tree. Yeah. So that's just a little more.

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Bill Maher Criticizes NPR Editorial Bias and Uri Berliner

Comedian Bill Maher addressed the recent whistleblower report by Uri Berliner regarding systemic bias at NPR. Berliner, a 25-year veteran of the network, revealed that out of 87 editorial staff members in the DC office, all 87 were registered Democrats. Maher argued that this lack of viewpoint diversity prevents the network from accurately reflecting or understanding the broader American public.

bill maher· npr· uri berliner· editorial bias· democrats· sarah lawrence college

12:45 solidification. He worked at, he ran operations at Astra, Goldman Sachs, UBS, Castleton Commodities, deep appreciation for tanker ships, remarkable familiarity with the depth of the port of Aden. Oh, your favorite place. That's where the fish come out of the hole. And this story will just not go away. Bill Maher No relation, no relation, had something to say about this NPR frac- not so much about Catherine, but about Uri who wrote the scathing article calling them out as a bunch of radical, radicalized, anti-Trump nutjobs, including himself. There's not a big effort.

13:37 on the left to understand what they are talking about. Because I don't think it's insincere on their part. I think they think we're going to hell in a handcart. Isn't it hell in a handbasket? Yes, it's always been hell in a handbasket, but for some reason Bill Maher has more than once said hell in a handcart. Because handbasket is from the guillotine, right? That's like your head gets chopped off, your head falls into the handbasket and that's how you go into hell. But he... I don't know why he does that. We're going to hell in a handcart. And one reason I think that is because the story that came out this week about NPR.

14:14 NPR is to them what this country would be if it was a permanent democratic governorship. And if you missed the story on NPR, it's pretty interesting. A guy named Uri Berliner came out. He wrote it. He'd been there for For a long time, 25 years. This guy, by the way, went to Sarah Lawrence and was raised by a lesbian peace activist. So he's... Very Sean Hannity. Well, very Sean Hannity. He said, I've been at NPR for 25 years. Here's how we lost America's trust.

14:51 And it's just about how this place which you know the show was called the big show was called all things considered It's not all things considered He's not wrong and he pointed out for example that of the 87 people working in editorial positions there 87 are Democrats even if you're a Democrat you can't think this is good. There you go cracks in the armor chinks in the armor Bill Maher. Oh, no Yeah, well he actually had a really good rant about some other stuff later, but he's wrong about that. I know Democrats, I was a Democrat, I understand the thinking. That's not true. If you're sitting there in an operation where the 87 Democrats and no Republicans, that's just peachy. Nobody's thinking that, oh gee, this isn't right. He's full of shit. You know, I was listening,

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

On the Media Coverage of Civil War Film and Christian Nationalism

The NPR program "On the Media" hosted by Brook Gladstone is criticized for its framing of the film "Civil War" and its coverage of Christian nationalism. The hosts argue that the program treats the fictional film as a literal documentary of a post-Trump America. They further discuss the media's focus on "charismatic extremists" and specific flags associated with the January 6th Capitol riot.

brook gladstone· on the media· civil war· christian nationalism· alex garland· journalists

15:46 I could not clip it on the media, which is a fine NPR program, Brook Gladstone. They were really... Yeah, you've been on that one for a while. Yeah, because they're crazy. Besides, you know, besides now calling out Christians as Christian, Christian nationalistic, charismatic extremists. And it's these YouTube preachers who are who are dangerous to the country. They reviewed the movie. There's nothing more dangerous than a YouTube preacher. I'm telling you! Like Dutch Sheets, really? And responsible for January 6th, by the way, because they had the white pine cone flags. It was the Christian nationalist charismatic extremists who... With the white pine cone flag. With the white pine cone flags. I don't remember even seeing that flag, and in my mind's eye I can't see what it is, and I didn't see one on Jan 6th. No, because...

16:42 Because it's horse crap, of course. But then they went on to review the movie Civil War, which I have not seen yet. And for 15 minutes, they... because, you know, it's glorifying journalists, I believe, this movie. Like, the journalists are trying to... you know, the whole point is... Glorifying journalists at this day and age? Yes. Yes. Wow. Yeah, so they're all like, oh, yeah, these journalists... They were discussing it like it was a documentary. Like completely insane. This has to be listened to. I'll put a link in the show notes. Oh, you should have recorded it. I have it, but it was just... Not clippable? Sometimes you can get... Now I would say this for people out there who want to know, you know, sometimes we have this situation where you have stuff and we both dig them up. Yeah.

17:29 It's great, but it's not clippable. And what that means is that they drag out the points, it's impossible to edit, you can't make it short and tight, you can't do anything, you can't make it bite-sized like the media wants. It's even though we like we play long stuff, but it's no I'm not clippable I mean that yeah, I will try I had some other stuff to just summarize and move on yeah I mean insanity must be listened to they're talking like it's literally The America post Trump election re-election and we devolve into civil war and

18:13 And we have states, California and Texas have seceded. And these very brave journalists are making the trek all the way across the country to interview the president in DC. And they literally are comparing it to their own experiences. Yes, it's like, you know, I know many war correspondents and they have the same feeling, the shell-shocked feeling, but yet they're happy to be alive. And sometimes it's just exhilarating. And they're crazy. These people are crazy. Can I say that without... can I say... is that suable? Can I say they're crazy? Yeah, you can. I think that's fine because it's just obvious your opinion. I would point to what journalists actually do with a clip.

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Taylor Swift Album Release and Mainstream Media Promotion

NBC's "Today" show provided extensive coverage of Taylor Swift's new album, "The Tortured Poets Department." The segment highlights the use of Easter eggs, QR codes, and library pop-ups in Los Angeles to market the release. The hosts characterize this coverage as a standard example of mainstream news outlets acting as promotional arms for major entertainment products.

taylor swift· the tortured poets department· nbc today· swifties· apple music· marketing

19:01 And this is what the journalists today do and they would so I would like to compare that to what you're analyzing in there This is the NBC Today clip Taylor Swift's new album came out Taylor Swift is ushering in a new era with her highly anticipated album the tortured poets department set to drop Friday and Swifties around the world will not calm down about it. Overnight, rumors of an alleged leak of Taylor's new project buzzing online. Many Swifties quickly asking fellow fans to meet them at midnight for the official release. That's not cool. Just wait. One tweeting, please do not spread the leak. Remember, this is Taylor's work. Respect it. The global sensation first teased new music at the Grammys. And in true Taylor fashion, she's been planting so-called Easter eggs about her album since then.

19:48 Clues are embedded in old lyrics on Apple Music. QR codes painted around the world directed fans to cryptic videos that some believe could spell out the album's first music video. And Swifties had the chance to tour a library pop-up riddled in secret messages in Los Angeles. Do the titles, the titles of the books, are the songs? Okay, since you went there, you took us there completely uncalled for. Nice tie-in with journalists. Who was it? You're talking about journalists? I wanted to display some of their fine work. Nice tie-in. Of course, most news is always intended to promote other entertainment products. This is a no agenda staple, we know that. They spent a lot of... there was money spent on this deal.

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Taylor Swift Health Claims and Cultural Impact on Youth

Media reports suggest that listening to Taylor Swift's sad songs can provide health benefits by releasing endorphins, citing the American Heart Association. One host expresses concern over Swift's influence on young children, comparing her stage performances to witchcraft. The discussion contrasts Swift's songwriting with historical figures like Bob Dylan and questions the long-term health effects of the "Swiftie" phenomenon.

taylor swift· american heart association· mental health· witchcraft· pop music· bob dylan

20:33 And so first of all, parents, I recommend you do not expose your children to Taylor Swift. She is a witch. I would say based on her stage performance where she performs witchcraft plays, I believe she is part of the Wiccan lesbians in Hollywood who are controlling everything. And this is not a conspiracy theory. Pay attention to my sub stack, okay? Pay attention. Even worse... Taylor Swift can be dangerous to your child's health. It's a big day for Swifties everywhere. Has Taylor Swift's much-anticipated new album, The Tortured Poet's Department, dropped today? I'm laughing because I'm trying to suppress a cough and I'm also thinking of Hunter Soward's going crazy in the newsroom right now. With song titles like I Can Do It With A Broken Heart, fans are in for some sad songs about heartbreak.

21:29 But that may not be a bad thing. So how can Swifties and others possibly get some health benefits from that sadness? Here's the answer. From a record-breaking tour to a brand new album, Swifties everywhere are united in their love of Taylor, heartbreak and all. But experts say there's an upside to sad songs. Listening to lyrics about the pain of a broken heart can actually benefit your emotional and mental health. The American Heart Association says a broken heart has ties to depression and mental health and can lead to conditions like heart disease. But experts say having a connection to someone can bring hope, even if it's an artist you don't even know. And having a good cry can release feel-good endorphins and boost mental health, while holding back emotions may hinder your ability to have positive feelings. So Swifties, turn off that music and let yourself feel it, because there's no need to shake it off. And that's

22:24 So, so they're going to blame heart attacks on Taylor Swift's sad album. That was very clear. Oh, it could be dangerous to your health, but it's okay to have a good cry. What is this? Sponsored by the by the antidepressant big pharma industry? Get out of here. Well, I didn't really expect you to top my clip. Yeah, sorry. I had to. I mean, who knew the Antichrist would be a woman? We never knew. You know, I want to point a couple of things out. Most of the era of pop music, there would be a superstar that come along. It goes back to Sinatra probably, but after Sinatra it became more obvious what was going on with Elvis Presley and then later the Beatles where you'd have these throngs of girls going nuts in the audience and crying and saying, you looked at me, all this stuff.

23:24 But now we have the same exact drawings of girls of a different generation Worshipping a woman. Mm-hmm instead of a guy which was you know, it was a very heterosexual thing when you had the screaming girls and the rock star on the stage But now you have screaming girls and a female on the stage and who was it? It's a homosexual event and who was it just before Taylor Swift who was the number one female artist and Come on, John, you know the answer. Well, I'm... I'm... I think it's somewhere between Madonna and Taylor Swift. No, no, no. Beyonce. Oh, Beyonce. Yeah, well she... Rihanna!

24:04 Come on, man. It's obvious look at these the great Rihanna with her fabulous song bitch better. Give me my money whatever It's a very it's a toe-tapper I'm just saying that this is this is a trend that you have identified that was never like that and exactly what you said And it is not let me just go look at these children who parents are the children drag their parents, but these are seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve year olds, completely in trance, completely hysterical. It used to be teenage, teenage girls. Taylor Swift is getting them even younger and it's not healthy, it's not good, and this album I think is... You sound like two old farts. Yeah, I do. Rock and roll has got to go! Let's break all these records, we're gonna steamroll them! WCC! Hey everybody, come on in the morning, John and Adam are gonna steamroll these records!

24:59 Rock and roll has got to go. This is not rock and roll. This is evil. No, it's not good either. It's evil. How does she expect... I'm sorry, I'm laughing because we are those guys now. Yeah, we are, but it's for good reason. Now it's finally come to fruition where it's actually needed. Now we really need to do it, yes. This is the same thing that technology had noticed as I talked about this. I've talked to you too about how different technologies come and then they fail because the world's not ready for them. And so you'd have it with AI, for example, but you know, laptops,

25:40 Just you know touch screens took forever to take hold yeah, and now everyone has to have one In the early days that they were mimicked and mocked and but then it caught on eventually I would say the same thing for other societal trends But so now the society rock and roll has got to go. I guess now is the time. Yeah, I mean it's damaging. I'm not, listen, I used to host Headbangers Ball. I wasn't worried about children. Now I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness, that was a good laugh. I'm more concerned about, to be honest about, is there's no, where is it, there's no musicality or tremendous songwriting capabilities that I'm noticing? You know what, this is not, this is not Bob Dylan level.

26:29 It's not, right, it's not, yes, exactly. It's not Bob, we're not dealing with Bob Dylan. That's for damn sure. Oh, good old Robbie Zimmerman, man. He had it down. He had it down, he knew what he was doing. It's blowing in the wind, brothers. Yeah. Snow Cretan's Clearwater Revival. We can bring up more. Well, anybody. Yeah. Oh man. Hilarious. Hilarious. Yeah, but it's just not healthy. It's really not healthy. To me, it's on the same level as the stupid books they leave in the school libraries. None of this is healthy what's going on. Well, actually, that's the part that Bill Maher went off on when he did that. Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, that show, he went off on the

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Maryland School Shooting Thwarted and Transgender Identity Issues

Police in Rockville, Maryland, arrested 18-year-old Alex Yee for allegedly planning a mass shooting at a high school and elementary school. Yee, who identifies as transgender, reportedly wrote a 129-page memoir detailing the plan and had a history of psychiatric treatment. The hosts discuss the potential role of SSRIs and hormone treatments in such incidents, noting the proximity to the 25th anniversary of the Columbine shooting.

alex yee· rockville· maryland· school shooting· transgender· ssris· columbine

27:21 On the trans thing like there was no tomorrow. Oh really? Well, yeah, I just have a more we might as well play this clip then Here we go, you know because of course we know that you it's much better to have a living son than a dead daughter or whichever way it is and you know you've got to transition your kid well explain this then. A possible school shooting was averted. Police in Maryland revealed new details today about how they stopped a student's plan to carry out an attack. CBS's Nicole Skanga reports. A potentially catastrophic event was prevented.

28:00 A possible school shooting thwarted. Authorities arrested 18-year-old Alex Yee, charging the high school student previously hospitalized for psychiatric treatment with making threats of mass violence at his high school and elementary school in Rockville, Maryland. According to charging documents, a friend alerted local police of a chilling 129 page memoir. A story of a bully transgender teen's desire to shoot up his school. Elements police say are pulled from the suspect's real life. Even after being removed from the school, he said that he could do something at graduation because he lived close to the school.

28:42 He was preoccupied with self-harm, school shootings and explosives. Police saying he Google searched other mass shootings including Sandy Hook and nearby gun ranges. Police also recovered a BB gun from the suspect's home. No other weapons were found and the suspect is being held without bond. Was there any mention there of any psychiatric drugs in that report? No, I also find it peculiar that they confiscated a BB gun. Good work boys! And this is a girl who they constantly call he, he, he, him, he.

29:22 Stop doing that M5M. There have been a hundred and forty threats made to Montgomery County Public Schools this school year according to local police. The district has bolstered its security footprint and is now offering trauma counseling to students. The overall mood is definitely shocked but thankful that nothing bad really happened. No one really expected this to happen it's kind of crazy when it's your own school. We reached out to the suspect's attorney. We have not yet heard back. Tomorrow marks 25 years since Columbine. Police say the suspect here mentioned that school shooting in recent online conversations. Margaret? Nicole Skanga, thank you. Yes, so if you bring up Columbine, you might as well bring up that those kids were all on SSRIs. Oh, I'm sorry. We had no time for that.

30:13 There's a real crisis going on and when you when you jack up children on testosterone, what do you think happens? What do you think happens John? It's a bad mix. It's a very bad mix. Oh, man. This is so broken so broken Well, that brings me to a series of clips. All right, here we go. Which irks me because I wanted to put these in just before the break. Oh, why do you want to do that now? Why don't you do it before the... Because the punchline to the clips is related to this. Okay, all right. We can do all we use, it's no big deal. I've done this a million times. I have a grand scheme, it never works out. Once again, we rehearse something, John sends me the clips, I just gotta tell people the story. As always, when we, we never discuss anything, I don't listen to John's clips, he doesn't listen to mine, we don't talk about what we're gonna do, it just shows up. So John sends me the clips, and there's a note, there's a note, it says note colon.

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

UnHerd Website Advertising Struggles and Agency Meetings

Freddie Sayers of the media outlet UnHerd described the organization's failed attempts to implement traditional digital advertising. Despite high traffic and influential readers in the UK and US, three different ad agencies were unable to generate significant revenue. The hosts reflect on their own decision to avoid the advertising model to maintain independence and avoid corporate oversight.

unherd· freddie sayers· advertising· ad agencies· value for value· london

31:17 These clips are meant for just before the donation segment. I'm like, okay, I can remember that and here we are. Once again, a carefully scripted idea fails miserably. This is, but this is kind of our MO. That's our default mode. In fact, we've done this so many times that I just just just water off a duck's back. That's right. Back. OK, this is a there's a. People are familiar with unheard. It's a website a podcast and a pub in London I think called unheard and it's a pretty famous UNHERD unheard not on no a and unheard right unheard like not part of the herd

32:07 And so they decided they were, they're kind of a value, not value for value, but they're, I wouldn't even call them that. They're kind of vertically, horizontally integrated, vertically integrated operation. They're not value for value at all. Well, they have subscriptions and a mug club kind of thing. We need a mug club, John. We need a mug club. We have a mug club. People can go to No Agenda whatever it says. Shop. Noagenda.shop.com. Get yourself a mug. We get nothing. It's a great club. You get a mug, the artist gets some money, the shop gets some money, we got nothing. Donation from time to time. We got a better mug club than anyone's. They need to get more business. Okay, so they decided they're gonna start advertising and it becomes an issue and that's the connection to our

33:00 or break where they start advertising it and I can say at the end, look, this is why we don't advertise blah blah blah. I'm just gonna, that's done. It was the idea, but here we go. This is the unheard advertising problem one. on the future of news. They had invited me to come and there we ended up talking a lot about disinformation because over the past few months as part of our normal routine business here at UnHerd we seem to have stumbled upon something really quite important which is a worldwide system of censorship. that crosses continents and that we think more people need to know about. So it all started last year when we decided to put adverts on our website for the first time. We have a paid subscription which I hope you are signing up to. We also have a cafe and a members club here in London so we have a bunch of different revenue sources but we've never had proper ads so we wanted to add that.

33:57 And we went to three successive ad agencies, each of which were really excited. Whoa, what happened there? What happened to the audio all of a sudden? What was that? It cuts to his testimony before the House of Commons or something like that. Oh, okay, thank you, thank you, thank you. And we went to three successive ad agencies, each of which were really excited about our product. We have a large audience in the UK and the US, very influential people, et cetera. The numbers they were expecting us to get were very significant. And each time, in three successive times, we only got a tiny, tiny fraction of what was expected and this was a real mystery that ad agencies themselves were confused by. Just a comment for me, this is one of them to be very very transparent about it when John and I started this we didn't want ads and the reason we didn't want ads is we didn't want to have meetings with agencies that was that was the whole reason like do you want to meet with advertisers? Nah, do you? No.

34:49 That was really our reason in the beginning. That was a reason. It was probably the primary reason, especially coming from you, who was Sick of it. Sick of it. Sick of it. Sick of it. It's like whenever we screwed something up at Pod Show, oh bring out the MTV guy, like bring out the Gimp. Yeah, you were the guy. That was the Gimp. You were the go-to celebrity who is out to be shot in the head. Yes, he'll take a bullet. In front of somebody. He'll take the bullet. Here's the guy. Okay, now grovel. Grovel. Grovel, monkey. At every

35:28 Company advertiser or whatever. There was always some woman who remembered me from MTV Woman Adam you go take care of it So that was yes, that was mainly you were not this is that you were not amenable No, sir doing this for the rest of your life It had to end and it's been a glorious 16 years It's been glorious. It's been glorious. Yeah, in fact your knee pads just sold out. Okay, okay simmer down grandpa. You don't have to be like that. Sorry, blatant ageist joke. Not fair.

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Global Disinformation Index Blacklisting of UnHerd

UnHerd discovered it was placed on a "Dynamic Exclusion List" by the Global Disinformation Index (GDI), which effectively blocked its ad revenue. The GDI cited "anti-LGBTQI+ narratives" and the publication of gender-critical feminists like Kathleen Stock as the reason for the blacklisting. The hosts discuss how technical platforms like Oracle's Grapeshot use these third-party ratings to enforce ideological censorship across the internet.

global disinformation index· gdi· grapeshot· oracle· larry ellison· censorship· trans issues

36:09 So is that the whole clip? Yeah, yeah. We're on to numbers. Okay, so they're looking for what happened, why, what, we're a big operation, and they are, everybody knows who we are, and this whole idea of advertising is flopping. What's wrong? Here we go. Eventually, with the third agency, they revealed what they were seeing on their internal dashboards. We were using an ad agency. They then used a technical platform called GrapeShot which is a British company that was sold to Larry Ellison's Oracle back a few years ago. And GrapeShot in turn then pinged something called the Global Disinformation Index all the way up the chain for information about quote-unquote brand safety

36:55 that is whether or not brands would want to be associated with particular websites. It turns out we had been put on the GDI's Dynamic Exclusion List, which is basically their list of most dangerous publications that you should not go anywhere near. Obviously we were a bit baffled by this, as was our ad agency, because we publish some of the most famous writers in the world, prize-winning authors, professors from prestigious universities. We interviewed politicians, pop stars, cultural icons, playwrights, all sorts of people who you really wouldn't expect would end up on the exclusion list of some organization like that. So we complained. And eventually, after weeks of waiting, we got this in response. I kind of love hearing his British accent explaining this whole thing.

37:44 Grapeshot. Yes. Part of Larry Ellison's Oracle, which is the biggest data broker in the universe. Hello? Yeah, but they were deferring to this operation. The global GDI, the global disinformation index. Really? These guys didn't know about that? I'm surprised. And here we go. Well, they've never advertised or anything before or cared. Yeah. Which, by the way, is kind of an interesting blind spot because you know you're doing all these fabulous as he went on and on and on with these fabulous interviews and they're completely oblivious to the simple reality that's in front of them. Basically TED Talk, but oh no! Oh no, oh no.

38:28 So here's the note that they got and it's read by a third party. It makes, I think it makes it more dramatic and here we go. Our team re-reviewed the domain. The rating will not change as it continues to have anti-LGBTQI plus narratives. The site authors have also been called out for being anti-trans. Kathleen Stock is acknowledged as a prominent gender critical feminist. She has opposed transgender self-identification in regards to proposed reforms in the 2004 UK Gender Recognition Act. So I've got to confess we were pretty outraged by that email. I mean in the context of the test review here in the UK which has just found the whole parts of the gender affirmation so-called medicine treatments that were offered over the past few years to children were

39:12 under-evidenced and irresponsible. In the context of that, the importance of publishing dissenting voices like Kathleen Stock, who that email references, should be even more obvious. The GDI added further links, two articles by Julie Bindel and another by Debbie Hayton, who is actually a trans woman but who has a slightly different opinion about some of the ideology. Apparently, the GDI thinks that holding quote-unquote gender critical beliefs, i.e. believing that biological differences are real and matter, equates to disinformation.

39:50 Despite the fact firstly that those beliefs are now specifically protected in British law since the Maya Forstater case we had here, it's actually enshrined in the Equalities Act that it's a protected characteristic and it's also, polling evidence shows, held by the majority of the population. So you have a weird scenario where a self-appointed organisation is deciding that an explicitly legal and majority-held view is enough to get an entire website blocked from international ad exchanges. Join the Mug Club everybody! That's what it's gonna be. Yeah, and this is that's a wonderful cast review which you which I think you had the clips for. Yeah, I broke it down a couple of shows ago. And which surprise surprise has received no attention in the United States and apparently very little attention in the UK because if you bring attention to the cast review

40:46 You will be blocked demonetized Monetized yeah, so there's it so there is an agenda which is what? What? No, which is what again? This is part of that built long bill Maher piece There is an agenda mm-hmm and this as a trans agenda and this trans agenda is is blocking things from the top down and the bottom up and so to speak And they're keeping everything... to their standards, and so you can't speak about any of this stuff if you're not doing what we do, which is value for value, which is what I wanted to do just before the break, because to imply or to tell people, hey, this is important, what you have to donate to this show. And that's the reason that this is all in a nutshell. You won't get any information otherwise. It has to be done this way, which is, and you've been advocating this

41:50 since we sent you coin value for value and you did the one that brought it up first and I know where it came from who knows where but you can't get real information to the American public anymore because of these restrictions, these artificial restrictions that are put on in and around advertising. It's a corrupt system. Did Bill Maher say that the way you did? Pretty much. Oh, okay. Good for him. He'll be deplatformed. Time to go, Bill! It's your every 20 years he gets kicked off. It was a long piece that he did on... I find him hard to watch. It depends on the guests. Yeah, well, he's so glib. He's, like, you know... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Katie Couric Comments on Trump Voters and Early Internet Gaffes

Katie Couric faced criticism for comments suggesting that Donald Trump's supporters are motivated by a jealousy of "intellectual elites." The hosts recall Couric's early career at NBC, specifically a 1994 segment where she and Bryant Gumbel struggled to understand the concept of the internet and "electronic mail." They characterize her as a "working stooge" for the globalist elite.

katie couric· bill maher· trump voters· nbc today· electronic mail· 1994

42:36 Yeah. Okay, well... And he brags about being childless, which I think is kind of pathetic. It's sad. It's sad. It's sad. Yeah, see, I'm so cool because I can smoke weed in my basement studio with celebs. Like Katie Couric. I didn't clip that either, but Katie Couric, man, what happened to her? She used to be nice. She was always seen from insiders into business as a shrew. Oh, well... She was never nice. Hmm, interesting. Tina said, did you see what Katie Couric said? I said, no. And she's sitting there like, you know, I'm going to paraphrase, these dumb Trump voters, they're jealous of our intellect. Paraphrasing, but that's pretty much what she said. Yeah, I can see that. There is a weird arrogance amongst the... amongst that... The elite!

43:37 The globalist elite. I mean, well, see the problem I have with it, with saying that about her, I don't see her as being an elite or a globalist. I mean, she's a globalist, maybe, but she's not an elite. She's just a working stooge. She works for a living. She's not, she doesn't have her, she's not, you know, some hot shot. I remember her back in the day I had OnRamp, my first company, and she was like, We have something very exciting. You can now send something called electronic mail. What year was that? Well, that must have been 94, I'm thinking. Oh, brother. Yeah, here. I wonder if I still have that.

44:23 No, I don't see it anywhere NBC email Because I know I know I had that to say something like that in 1994 is an example of being a moron Well, yeah, they've been like you send it to NBC Today Show at And it was like, g-e, no, it was like nbc.ge.net. That was back when the sysadmins were all anal about the naming of their machines. It wasn't just a simple like, you know, todayshow.com. No, it didn't have any of that.

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda ABCs Coloring Book and GateView Publishing

The hosts announce the release of the "No Agenda ABCs" coloring book, illustrated by J.M. Dvorak and published through GateView Publishing. The book features show-related themes like "Boots on the Ground" and "Shut up, Slave." The discussion transitions into a critique of Silicon Valley "douchebags" and the memoirs written by tech journalists like Kara Swisher and Sarah Lacy.

no agenda abcs· gateview publishing· j.m. dvorak· coloring book· kara swisher· silicon valley

45:04 And by the way, so we got for you noagendaabc.com. Yes, and I... Noagendaabc.com. I retrieved the coloring book from the mailbox, had a little chat with the neighbors. Hey neighbor, how you doing? What you doing? Get my mail. And... Is it communal? Is that communal that people are in there with you? Yeah, I just want you to imagine that. I can't. Forget it. It's a little island. It's a little island. And that's where people stop with their car and get out and get their mail from the mailbox. Yeah. And then, you know, like I'm walking the dog. Hey, neighbor, how are you doing? Yeah, it's quite commute. We're a nice little group here. So I retrieve my my no agenda ABCs written by Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, illustrated by J.M. Dvorak. But should she not was this. Did she not take her her husband's name?

45:58 She's got so many names now, it's ridiculous. Uh-huh. Aliases. I say, why are you using this name? And she has these excuses. I'm using this, you know, she has her reasons. JM stands for J Morgan. And a JM she likes. Morgan's a nice name. I like Morgan. It's a good name. Was that what you got to put in there? Mimi came up with a J and you said, but I want my name. No, maybe pick both names. I wanted her to be named Reid, R-E-A-D or R-E-E-D, I'm sorry, R-E-E-D, but it would be pronounced Reid Dvorak. So the people would be reading your blogs, is that it? Wow, you're a horrible dad. It was a promotional idea that was a winner.

46:47 You're the worst. Noagendaabc.com is... But anyway, so you like the... I thought the book was dynamic. The coloring book is the winner. Yeah, I love it. I showed it to... We had painters going on, painting in the house and like, wow. And then they're cracking up. It is to be given to your children under 10 with some supervision. There's some adult themes in there, like boots on the ground. for being vaccined. You might want to discuss this or shut up slave. Shut up slave. A couple things you might want to discuss with your kid before they go running around saying that at grade school.

47:29 Shut up, slave. But it is an outstanding product. I think, you know, Jay is really she's done a great job. I think this GateView Publishing is a great business that she seems to be running everything. Of course, we have. Yeah, she always. Yeah, we give her advice about it because we kind of know what to do. But it's, I think, going to be shipping on May 6th, the coloring book. The other book is always available. I think it's available now. Oh, really? That's already out there? I think so. Whatever, May 6th. Look at May 6th. But yes, the regular colored in book is $33, which... 33-33, baby. 33-33. The coloring book is 11-11. And someone pointed out to me that with this new GateView publishing

48:19 Imprint, is that what we call it? An imprint? No, no, no, it's a pub, no, imprint, an imprint is if you're running a publishing company and you got some superstar that's working for you as a writer or something and they're producing so much stuff and they always have ideas, hey, let's all do this, why don't you do that, you give them, they get an imprint and so it would be like Adam Curry gave you publishing and you'd have your name on. Yeah, I had an imprint with McGraw-Hill for a while. One of our PhDs in media deconstruction, Dr. Derek J. Visker, sent me a note and he said, I was listening to show 1652 and I do believe John gave you a hint about, he said at time code one hour two minutes and 14 seconds, he said, this will be in my memoir, Douchebags I've Known.

49:11 And Dr. Derrick says, you know, that's going to be his vinegar book. And I'm like, yes, you've been holding back on me. The vinegar book is going to be you, sour, sour writing, sour Dvorak about douchebags you've known. It will be a hit. I mean, people always like to know who the douchebags are. Well, of course, that's what that's what Kara Swisher did. That's her book. It's like, here's the douchebags. Is that what her book is about? Oh yeah, it's about all the tech guys and how douchey they are. That's pretty much the book. You know, a lot of the way, Sarah Lacy was kind of in that same league. These women that get involved with these douchebags of Silicon Valley, you and I, we know most of them. Yep.

50:00 And yeah, a lot of them are douchey and they don't have much in the way of a lot of knowledge or personality or insight or wisdom. But they got, they had the knack. And when women get involved, they actually think it's gonna be fair, even, and oh, the women are coming and we're gonna. Help the ladies. Oh, yeah, and then they get Pushed aside unless they're pretty much like with the guys and they're not Many of them and then they get pissed off about it and write him up as douchebags. Yeah. Yep I have a presentation on Israel Gaza So if you have any clips to get us going about the most recent events, I'd like to play those first I have

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Israel-Gaza Conflict and the Rand Corporation's AI Influence

An Israeli airstrike in Rafa resulted in the deaths of nine people, including six children. The hosts transition to discussing the broader geopolitical landscape, noting the Rand Corporation's recent influence on White House AI reporting requirements. They highlight the $15 million in grants Rand received from Open Philanthropy to shape policy on biosecurity and artificial intelligence.

gaza· rafa· israel· rand corporation· open philanthropy· ai reporting

50:49 The Israel airstrike killed a person. An Israeli airstrike. Let me play it here. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, yeah, start with that and I'll see if there's anything else. An Israeli airstrike on a house in Gaza's southern city of Rafa overnight killed at least nine people, six of them children. That's according to hospital officials. Oh, that was... That was it. That was it? That's all you got? I don't have any more, no I went toward you, I have some Ukraine and I got some... No, no, no, wait for all that. You take it over, you got it. Yeah, of course we did have the so-called retaliation by Israel which Israel has not...

51:26 not claimed yet, and there's a lot of back and forth. But I was... So after our discussion on 1652, I got a lot of emails. I don't know if you did, I got a lot of email. I got a lot of hate mail. I think people misunderstood. And I had to block a couple of them. Yeah, I think people misunderstood. They think that we're lumping everybody in into Jew haters, but no, we were talking about actual Jew haters who are just, hey, Jews. Yeah, I think they're out there. People misunderstood that and they think that we had people that are normal listeners they seem to be and then they say I'm not gonna be called a Jew hater I quit this show. Oh no I didn't get any of those I didn't get any of those. I got one of those. Yeah but but that is that's not what we were talking about.

52:18 Yeah, very interesting. A lot of Christians sent me very long emails quoting lots of scripture. Yes, of course, Isaac and Ishmael, and there's a lot of different things. I got none of that, thank you, Lord. The Lord blesses you, John. And he loves you, and he loves you. However, one of our Jesus Freak listeners did send me a phenomenal half-hour interview which it will be linked in the show notes with Dr. Michael Hudson, Professor Hudson, and he's 85 years old. Have you ever heard of Hudson?

52:59 I can't say that I have. Okay, so Hudson has been around. He was in the Hudson Institute. It was the Hudson Institute was not his, just a coincidence. The Hudson Institute was set up by Herman Kahn. That name must mean something to you. I have heard of him. Yeah, he was physicist, founding member of the Hudson Institute regarding one of the preeminent futurists and military strategists. And so the Hudson Institute was Khan in essence. You'll hear that he was actually the Dr. Strangelove. He was the example for Dr. Strangelove in the movie Dr. Strangelove. And it was the Rand... I'm sorry? Well, not to correct you, but Dr. Strangelove was fashioned after Edward Teller, University of California.

53:53 Even the Wikipedia says that he was the inspiration for Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove. So that's up for debate. For the whole story maybe, but not for the character. Okay, good point. But this is, so the Hudson Institute, let me bring that up here, the Hudson Institute Think tank based in Washington DC founded in 1961 it was called that because it was in Croton on Hudson, New York Herman Kahn and his colleagues at the Rand Corporation. There's one we haven't talked about in a long time the Rand Corporation been subsumed they're Largely missing they got a new name. I think you know if they change names hmm. I think so I

54:39 In 2023, Politico reported the Rand Corporation was a driving force behind the White House's new AI reporting requirements after it took more than $15 million in discretionary grants on AI and biosecurity from Open Philanthropy. We all knew who that is. So, needless to say, these are... I guess they're still in business, sorry. Yeah, they're still in business. But these are not your above board guys, Khan and... and the Rand Corporation. So when someone of this age speaks, I like to listen. Because someone who's 85 doesn't give a crap anymore and will tell you the truth. I'm just saying. And will tell you the truth about what's really going down. And he had a very, very simple, very historical take on what is going on with Israel. Now in general, the thinking from people who hate the Zionists and are anti-Zionist, which is... I have no problem. That's all fine.

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Dr. Michael Hudson on Vietnam War Strategies in Gaza

Economist Dr. Michael Hudson explains that current Israeli military strategies in Gaza and the West Bank are modeled after U.S. tactics used during the Vietnam War. Specifically, he cites the "Strategic Hamlets" program designed to isolate and control populations through checkpoints and electronic passes. Hudson argues these systems were discussed 50 years ago at the Hudson Institute by military strategists like Herman Kahn.

michael hudson· herman kahn· hudson institute· vietnam war· strategic hamlets· gaza

55:42 Zionism being that Israel should be the homeland for the Jews and there's a big group of people who really believe that Israel is running the show. That Israel controls all our politicians, goes all the way through Epstein and Mossad and they have completely blackmailed everybody. Now some of that may be true. I'm sorry? Yeah, the Israel running podcasting. Yeah, no, they're clearly running podcasting. It was all their idea. And so when I started to watch this interview, I'm like, I have to clip this. And there's a lot of stuff I didn't, which I'll get to later, because he did go into the real, you know, the original idea of Israel 1948.

56:31 But here's an intro he's going to explain who he is a little bit of his background He's an economist just so you know that's what he is 50 years ago in 1974 I was working with the Hudson Institute with Herman Kahn and my colleague is there were a number of Mossad Agents who were being trained? Uzi Arad Was there and we he became a? the head of Mossad, and is currently the main advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu. So all of what is happening today was discussed 50 years ago, not only with the Israelis, but with many of the U.S. defense people. Because I was with the Hudson Institute, which was a national security agency, because I'd written Superimperialism.

57:19 and I was a balance of payments expert. And the Defense Department used my book, Superimperialism, not as an expose, but a how to do it book. And they brought me there as a specialist in the balance of payments. Herman brought me back and forth to the White House to meet with cabinet members and to discuss the balance of payments. He also brought me to the War College and to the Air Force think tanks. Okay, so a couple important things. One is the balance of payments. Can you explain balance of payments simply?

57:58 Yes, when we export less than we import and how that money goes back and forth and how it operates. It's an art, I guess. I don't know how to do it because I don't do it, but it has to do with trade. 1961, I believe, is the year that Eisenhower did his famous military industrial complex speech. Do I have that date right? It would have been before that. I think it was 59. It had to be when he was leaving office. Okay. So now we get into Herman Kahn and Mr. Hudson's story starts to unfold. So all of what is happening now was described a long time ago. And Herman was known as a futurist. He was Dr. Strangelove in the movie that was all based for him on a series of atomic war. But he was also the main theorist behind Vietnam.

58:57 And nobody seems to have noticed that what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank now is all based on what was the US strategy during the Vietnam War. And it was based on the strategic Hamlets idea, the fact that you could cut back. You could just divide all of Vietnam into little parts, having guards at all the transition points from one part to another. Everything that Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza and elsewhere throughout Israel was all pioneered in Vietnam. So that to me was very interesting.

59:47 So the idea, as Dr. Hudson will continue to explain here, was always to rid all of Israel from anything else that was there. He goes into great detail about, you know, how the Jews were so mad they really wanted to get back at They really just want everybody dead. Get everybody out. This is our home. Get rid of it. You know, 1948, the British and the United Nations, we put Israel on the map and there's a lot of history there. But that's not as interesting as to how he takes that knowledge and applies it to Palestine today. And surprise, surprise, this actually not

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Israel as a Landed Aircraft Carrier for U.S. Oil Interests

Dr. Michael Hudson posits that the United States views Israel primarily as a "landed aircraft carrier" to secure control over Near Eastern oil reserves. He suggests that the Biden administration's foreign policy team, including Jake Sullivan and Antony Blinken, are executing long-standing neocon plans for regional domination. According to Hudson, the partnership is driven by U.S. strategic needs rather than Israel controlling American interests.

michael hudson· middle east oil· zionism· jake sullivan· antony blinken· aircraft carrier

1:00:29 that Israel is in control of America. This is the exact opposite as we have been using Israel for our operations, a classic steal everybody's oil. I could see that the intention from the very beginning was to get rid of the Palestinians and indeed to use Israel as the basis for US control of near eastern oil. That was the constant discussion of that from the American point of view. It was Israel as a part of the oil. So, Herman's analysis was on systems analysis. You define the overall aim and then you work backward.

1:01:18 How do you do it? Well, you can see what the Israeli policy is today. First of all, you isolate the Palestinians and strategic hamlets. That's what Gaza had already been turned into for the last 15 years. It's been carved up into districts. with requiring electronic passes from one sector to another to go into Israel, to go to Jerusalem, or to go to Israel for jobs to work. The aim all along has been to kill them. Or, first of all, to make life so unpleasant for them that they'll emigrate. That's the easy way. Why would anyone want to stay in Gaza when what's

1:02:03 What's happening to them is what's happening today. You're going to leave. But if they don't leave, you're going to have to kill them. Ideally by bombing because that minimizes the domestic casualties. And Israel doesn't want its soldiers to die any more than Americans do. So the American form of war is as it was in Vietnam is bombing them. In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them and then bomb them again. Uh, before I continue. What are you drinking? I heard you. I heard you crack it. I have, this is interesting, this is Maison Perrier, Perrier, Perrier, Perrier, or whatever, and it was just not Perrier, it is a, it's either owned by them or a spin-off, but the French, you know, once they lose their copyrights, they allow copycats to come up and make product, like Sabatier, there's about 10 companies making these knives now. Wow.

1:03:04 And it's just sparkling water. And the kicker is with electrolytes. No, it really has electrolytes. It says, yeah, sparkling water with electrolytes for flavor because it's not mineral water. It's just tap with French tap water that's been bubbled with with with forever chemicals. No doubt electrolytes. All right. Back to our story. Now, what I like about this guy is This 85 year old guy, he says things that we have heard said in recent clips on this show. For the United States, what they wanted was the oil reserves in the Middle East. And again and again I heard the phrase, you're our landed aircraft carrier in Israel.

1:03:49 Where have I heard that before? Ben Shapiro. America works with the Israelis and uses Israeli assets in order to pursue targets in the Middle East. Pursue targets? Well, now we know. The target has of course always been the oil. This is what the Bush family was after in Iraq, even though it was Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan. And we all went, okay, Saddam Hussein did 9-11 or whatever.

1:04:29 No, no, no. It's the aircraft carrier. That is our central base to go take the oil, which we're still doing in Syria. The phrase, you're our landed aircraft carrier in Israel. Uzi Arad, the future Mossad head, would be very uncomfortable at this because he wanted Israel to be run by the Israelis, but they realized that for Israel to get by with the money that it needed for its balance of payments, it had to be in a partnership with the United States. So what you're seeing today isn't simply the work of one man, Benjamin Netanyahu. It's the work of the team that President Biden has put together. It's the team of Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor, Blinken, and the whole deep state, the whole neocon group behind them, Victoria Nuland and everyone. They're all self-proclaimed Zionists.

1:05:30 and they've gone over this plan for essentially America's domination of the Near East for decade after decade. I like what I'm hearing. Now things are falling into place for me, which also makes a lot of sense why Trump is such a bad deal because he wants to drill in America. It's like, yeah, let's not, you know, and what did Trump say? We did it. We were so stupid we didn't even take the oil. He knows. That was the theme, it's still the theme. Yeah, he knows, he knows, he knows what they're doing, he knows what the idea is. Now we get an interesting comparison between President Johnson

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Historical Parallels Between LBJ and Biden on War Protests

Dr. Michael Hudson compares the current domestic protests against President Biden's Gaza policy to the opposition faced by Lyndon B. Johnson during the Vietnam War. He notes the similarity in protest chants regarding the killing of children and suggests Biden is attempting to avoid LBJ's 1968 fate. The hosts discuss whether the current chaos is a coordinated effort to rotate Biden out of office in favor of a new candidate.

lyndon b. johnson· joe biden· vietnam war· gaza protests· 1968 election· jake sullivan

1:06:09 and President Biden. But as the United States learned in the Vietnam War, populations protest and the US population protested against the Vietnam War. What the Biden administration wants to avoid is the situation that President Johnson had in 1968. Any hotel, any building that he went to to give a speech for his re-election campaign, there were crowds shouting, LBJ, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today? President Johnson had to take the servants' entrance to get away from the press so that nobody would see what he was doing. And essentially, he went on television and resigned.

1:07:01 how history repeats but really rhymes, literally rhyming. How many kids do you kill today? I mean, I don't have to play the multitude of clips that we have of this chant, of all of these chants. So we're repeating history here in a very interesting way. Yeah, well, I'm liking this, by the way, this guy's analysis, but it just brings to my mind, what are they thinking in an election year? Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good... I mean, sometimes... Well, I mean, if we go back, right? If we go back and we look at October 2nd, this is when the Israelis went into the Al-Asqa mosque. October 7th is when Hamas retaliated with the border wall left completely wide open. I think that Netanyahu was sitting there like, it's time! So maybe he jumped the gun, maybe he didn't have a chat with anybody.

1:08:02 Maybe he was trying to save his own skin. I'm actually coming around to your thesis now instead of this is intended to get him out. It's intended to keep him in. I think there was a miscoordination here and it's not an election year for Biden, but maybe and maybe it's part of getting Trump in, John. Well, yes, there's that possibility. Okay. So you got to rotate this Biden guy out. So only a couple. They can accomplish, it's like, okay, Jake Sullivan's always seen as like the worst character and he's really running everything. It's like one of those situations where you bring that, like in a corporate situation, you bring the hatchet man in. Yes. And he comes in and wrecks the place, but ends up doing what he's supposed to do, which is fire this guy, that guy, this guy, that guy, and all these other guys, you can bitch about it later.

1:08:54 and then you up in arms because he's butchered the place, because that's what you brought him in for, he's a hatchet man, and then you get him out of there immediately and bring in somebody who can actually run the place. And that could be what's going on. So during the election year it actually works out fine, because it confirms our thinking that Trump has been benighted to become the next president, like it or not. And maybe, who knows? We don't know everything but man, I love listening to this old coot because he's got some interesting insight. Now if you recall, right away, and let's just look at what we've seen on television.

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Targeted Killing of Journalists and Systems Analysis in Warfare

Dr. Michael Hudson claims that the high casualty rate among journalists in Gaza is a deliberate strategy to prevent domestic opposition in the U.S., similar to the suppression of news during the Vietnam War. He explains that "systems analysis" is used to identify and eliminate key societal pillars, such as hospitals and media, to break a population's will. The hosts discuss the historical emergence of systems analysis in both military and corporate governance.

michael hudson· seymour hersh· gaza· journalists· systems analysis· vietnam

1:09:32 You have not seen 300,000 Ukrainian men being killed. You have not seen any real war. Yeah, you see some burned out buildings. We have seen, we saw a little bit two years ago, but it's really all been Gaza, horrible images, body parts flying everywhere. It's been horrible. And right at the very beginning, if you recall, remember how many journalists were killed? They were counting how many journalists were dead? And they're still talking about it on the network, on NPR and elsewhere. to prevent the embarrassment of journalists who were doing all this. Seymour Hersh described a melee massacre and that helped inflame the opposition to Johnson. Well, President Biden has approved Netanyahu's plan, the first people you have to kill are the journalists.

1:10:22 If you're going to commit genocide, you have to realize that you don't want the domestic US population or the rest of the world to oppose the US and Israel. You kill the journalists. Ever since the October 2nd Al-Aqsa, event, you've had one journalist per week killed in Israel. That's part of it. The other people you don't want, if you're going to bomb them, you have to start by bombing the hospitals and all of the key centers. That also was part of the idea of the Vietnam War.

1:11:09 How do you destroy a population? This was all worked out in the 1970s when people were trying to use systems analysis to think, how do you work back and see what you need? So, at this point in the interview he goes into a whole thing about Ukraine and how it's always been about getting rid of the anti-Semites, which is not discussed, but that's a lot of what was going on in Ukraine. But he in essence says these neocons, they kind of lost sight of what the original mission was with the Zionists and with getting back at Russians and Ukrainian anti-Semites.

1:11:50 And he says that now this gone crazy about the oil, of course everybody is making money off of this. It's got to be a bonanza that we have no idea how huge that is. And I want to, before you completely go into your next thoughts, I still want to back up and talk about these dead journalists. Yeah, sure. because there's been, we've not really paid much attention to it, but there's been instance after instance of supposedly an Israeli soldier shooting the journalist and they know who it was. And they make a fuss about it. Oh, he shot this Palestinian journalist. And then, oh yeah, well it was an accident. And then one after the other, we have all these dead journalists, which everyone's now noticing, because there's hundreds of them.

1:12:42 And I like that, that was very interesting. But the second thing that he said in that regard. because I remember this, is the emergence of something called systems analysis. Yes, that's what Carver did. Which was a huge deal in the computer world because the IT guys were called systems analysts, but it was part of a bigger movement to try to understand complete systems of governing, of how things work, how corporate governance works, and the systems analyst was the one who was looking, who did the re-orgs, and they said, let's look at this. There's all these things, downsizing, and then that became rightsizing, and then all these other terms came and went. But systems analysis was the big deal, and that kind of disappeared.

1:13:34 Well, it didn't disappear because they did systems analysis. Exactly what he said earlier is that, you know, make these little Hamlets, everybody digital passes, go back and forth. And I mean, he goes into a whole bunch of things about starving him out, keeping him just barely alive. But the whole idea is still, as we've surmised before, is they want Palestine empty. And so now you get to, and this guy, he's so on the ball. So when we look at oil, there's not just oil, there's gas. And we know from the Leviathan Project and what was the Bill Clinton company that he was in? Was it Clinton or Bush? No, it was Clinton. Clinton had some of that gas. I remember it was some crazy company we isolated. We knew we'd be someone invested in it and made money on it and then donated. I can't remember what it was. Yes, I remember that. The stock skyrocketed. So there is a large gas field off of Gaza.

1:14:32 Yes, we've talked about that. Yes, and so what is happening, what has, what is, as part of the relief effort, we are sending ships to Gaza to build a pier. to build a pier. Let's listen to this. So the United States is building these piers. One reason it's doing it is it can pretend that they can say we're not building the piers for Israeli property owners to have yachts, we're going to deliver food. But by the time we finish building the piers there will be no more Gazans. I mean that's the whole point. By building the piers they've enabled Israel to prevent

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Gaza Waterfront Real Estate and the Leviathan Gas Field

The construction of a U.S. military pier in Gaza is characterized by Dr. Michael Hudson as a precursor to developing the region's valuable waterfront and offshore natural gas reserves. He suggests the ultimate goal is the displacement of the Palestinian population to make room for luxury Israeli developments. Jared Kushner's previous comments regarding the "valuable" potential of Gaza's waterfront are cited as evidence of this long-term real estate vision.

gaza· leviathan gas field· jared kushner· pier· real estate· cyprus

1:13:34 Well, it didn't disappear because they did systems analysis. Exactly what he said earlier is that, you know, make these little Hamlets, everybody digital passes, go back and forth. And I mean, he goes into a whole bunch of things about starving him out, keeping him just barely alive. But the whole idea is still, as we've surmised before, is they want Palestine empty. And so now you get to, and this guy, he's so on the ball. So when we look at oil, there's not just oil, there's gas. And we know from the Leviathan Project and what was the Bill Clinton company that he was in? Was it Clinton or Bush? No, it was Clinton. Clinton had some of that gas. I remember it was some crazy company we isolated. We knew we'd be someone invested in it and made money on it and then donated. I can't remember what it was. Yes, I remember that. The stock skyrocketed. So there is a large gas field off of Gaza.

1:14:32 Yes, we've talked about that. Yes, and so what is happening, what has, what is, as part of the relief effort, we are sending ships to Gaza to build a pier. to build a pier. Let's listen to this. So the United States is building these piers. One reason it's doing it is it can pretend that they can say we're not building the piers for Israeli property owners to have yachts, we're going to deliver food. But by the time we finish building the piers there will be no more Gazans. I mean that's the whole point. By building the piers they've enabled Israel to prevent

1:15:15 the food trucks from coming in from the south. So building the piers is a means of pretending to help without doing anything at all to help actually develop food to Israel. So yes, all throughout the news there have been statements by the Israeli real estate companies saying Gaza could have been a nice place to live. if there weren't Arabs in it. And now, if we can clear the land of Arabs, make it a land without those people, then this is a wonderful property, and it has natural gas to help the Israeli balance of payments. So the whole idea is to make this a center of Israel luxury developed.

1:16:00 You not only want beachfront property, you want docks for the buyers to have a place to tie up their yachts. Dude, this guy is so on it. And here's where Trump has a really big problem, because he has a son-in-law who shoots his mouth off. Here's Jared Kushner. And so my sense is, is I would say, how do we deal with the terror threat that is there so that it cannot be a threat to Israel or to Egypt. I think that both sides are spending a fortune on military. I think neither side really wants to have a terrorist organization enclaved right between them. And Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable if people would focus on building up

1:16:39 you know, livelihoods. You think about all the money that's gone into this tunnel network and all the munitions, if that would have gone into education or innovation. All right, Jared, well done. All right, we've got you. Yeah, that was a while ago. We had that clip. I think we played it. Yeah. Oh, no, these are all clips we've played. Yeah, and it's like... Yeah, he probably needs to show some restraint. Yes! Idiot! As opposed to just yacking away like he does. Final clip from Dr. Hudson. That's assuming he was in on it though. I mean, I just think he... Come on. This guy... He's... Oh yeah, he's a real estate son of a real estate guy that was so good at his job that he got thrown in jail. Well, there you go. Final clip from Dr. Hudson.

1:17:26 End game and this one really brought it all home. So the question is, how is Gaza going to exist? Either it's going to be all Israeli and the Gazians will be forced to flee. The Israelis want them to flee by boats and to be sunk in the Mediterranean just like after America and France destroyed Libya. do you mean hillary clinton of the libyans fleeing a tried to flee in boats and they were sunk so either they will drown or they will somehow uh... work their way into a prison camp that uh... uh... each of them its leader is uh... setting up uh... for uh... gazian refugees uh... and then did the gazians will somehow uh... try to try to uh... gain uh... entry into europe or other countries so you can expect a huge

1:18:21 influx of Gazians into Europe, some people have suggested, well, now that Ukraine is turning into a land without a people, maybe either the Gazians can turn Ukraine over to the the Palestinians, or we could give it to the Israelis saying well this is your ancestral land, this is where all of the pogroms started, Zionism began, now you can go back and there are no more Ukrainians to have pogroms against you. Maybe the Israelis should go to Ukraine. One population or the other has to emigrate.

1:19:02 And what did we see just two weeks ago with Queen Ursula? A controversial deal to inject cash into Egypt, mired in its worst economic crisis in nearly a hundred years. The European Union's 7.4 billion euro package includes 5 billion in concessional loans, 1.8 billion for investment and hundreds of millions for bilateral projects like managing migration. The Egyptian president hailed what he called a paradigm shift in his country's partnership with Brussels. And with that money, he's building prison camps. It's so clear now. It's like, and by the way, it's not Israel controlling us. Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, the entire State Department. We are A-holes.

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

EU Migration Deal with Egypt and Ukraine Resettlement Theories

The European Union, led by Ursula von der Leyen, finalized a 7.4 billion euro aid package for Egypt intended to manage migration. Dr. Michael Hudson suggests this funding is being used to build facilities for Gazan refugees displaced by the conflict. He also discusses a controversial theory that displaced populations from Gaza or Israel could eventually be resettled in depopulated areas of Ukraine.

ursula von der leyen· egypt· european union· migration· ukraine· prison camps

1:18:21 influx of Gazians into Europe, some people have suggested, well, now that Ukraine is turning into a land without a people, maybe either the Gazians can turn Ukraine over to the the Palestinians, or we could give it to the Israelis saying well this is your ancestral land, this is where all of the pogroms started, Zionism began, now you can go back and there are no more Ukrainians to have pogroms against you. Maybe the Israelis should go to Ukraine. One population or the other has to emigrate.

1:19:02 And what did we see just two weeks ago with Queen Ursula? A controversial deal to inject cash into Egypt, mired in its worst economic crisis in nearly a hundred years. The European Union's 7.4 billion euro package includes 5 billion in concessional loans, 1.8 billion for investment and hundreds of millions for bilateral projects like managing migration. The Egyptian president hailed what he called a paradigm shift in his country's partnership with Brussels. And with that money, he's building prison camps. It's so clear now. It's like, and by the way, it's not Israel controlling us. Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, the entire State Department. We are A-holes.

1:19:51 We're doing this and it's been going on for a long time project for New American Century Bill Kristol all these people all of them and And I pray for Trump. I don't know where he is in all this. His son-in-law has got some issues. His whole thing is, let's drill in America. No wonder they hate him for that. No wonder climate change is, oh no! Less oil and gas from the West, everybody. No, no, you have to save the environment. Don't worry, we're going to get it all cheap from the Middle East. We're going to get it from those sand people.

1:20:32 It's horrible. Dumb sand people. Yes, dumb sand people. Sorry. There you go. Yeah, there is some I can see the thinking that it's cheaper to get it from the Middle East and we can always have, we always have it here. It's here. We got tons. And as Trump pointed out, we have more reserves pretty much than anyone. And we have, it's all over the place. North Dakota's loaded. And then if we really have to fall back into anything, we'll fall back under the sand tars. in Alberta, but the Canadians are making a point out of making that, making a fuss about even talking about having that there as a backup. Now we have enough coal, and this is a well-known fact, it doesn't come up in the conversation much anymore, but we have enough coal reserves for 350 years of use at today's levels.

1:21:27 So we're loaded with energy. We're energy independent in some sense by nature. Yeah. And meanwhile, while this has been going on for decades, of course we've seen a lot of it, you know, we all know 9-11 was, you know, it seemed to be just another reason to go in and score some oil and kick some people out who were being annoying, some ARABs. They were no good. You know, you just can't deny it. Just go look at George W. Bush's whole oil company, everything. It all fits together and the center of this, okay, disproportionate number of Jews, but it's American Jews, okay? It's American Jews who are insane. This doesn't mean that it's all Jews who are doing this. It's these insane people, neocons, and they're nuts.

1:22:22 And they have to be stopped. But okay, this is what we get over here. Good luck. Yeah, good luck. This is what we get over here. Protests continue on and around Columbia campus tonight, including a group of students still camped out on the University of Lawn. They are in solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza and are demanding the university divest from companies with ties to Israel. Separated by a gated fence, but united in the same cause. Protesters outside Columbia University returned Saturday to lend their support to the students on campus who continue a sit-in with their sleeping bags and books. This is nothing compared to what people in Palestine are dealing with.

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Columbia University Protests and Divestment Demands

Students at Columbia University established a "Gaza Solidarity Encampment" to demand the university divest from companies with ties to Israel. The protests led to mass arrests and suspensions, which participants claim has only galvanized the movement. The hosts argue that these campus "struggle sessions" serve as a distraction from the underlying geopolitical and resource-driven motivations of the conflict.

columbia university· gaza solidarity encampment· divestment· new york city· student protests

1:21:27 So we're loaded with energy. We're energy independent in some sense by nature. Yeah. And meanwhile, while this has been going on for decades, of course we've seen a lot of it, you know, we all know 9-11 was, you know, it seemed to be just another reason to go in and score some oil and kick some people out who were being annoying, some ARABs. They were no good. You know, you just can't deny it. Just go look at George W. Bush's whole oil company, everything. It all fits together and the center of this, okay, disproportionate number of Jews, but it's American Jews, okay? It's American Jews who are insane. This doesn't mean that it's all Jews who are doing this. It's these insane people, neocons, and they're nuts.

1:22:22 And they have to be stopped. But okay, this is what we get over here. Good luck. Yeah, good luck. This is what we get over here. Protests continue on and around Columbia campus tonight, including a group of students still camped out on the University of Lawn. They are in solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza and are demanding the university divest from companies with ties to Israel. Separated by a gated fence, but united in the same cause. Protesters outside Columbia University returned Saturday to lend their support to the students on campus who continue a sit-in with their sleeping bags and books. This is nothing compared to what people in Palestine are dealing with.

1:23:02 People in Gaza, they are starving. They have lost everything. Their homes and their apartments have been bombed. So really, we feel like we have a moral obligation. Leila Saliba says she noticed something in the group taking part in the Gaza Solidarity encampment ever since police were called in by the university Thursday. The mass arrests and the suppression of students, I would say that's galvanized us. The majority of protesters were charged with trespassing for refusing to leave the space in violation of school rules and suspensions were handed out. Here they are showing leadership and they are being censored and punished for it and it's wrong. Across the street from the protest a small group of Jewish Columbia students stood by an Israeli flag not able to speak with us on Shabbat but one man tells us twice he stopped people from tearing the flag down. So this is a struggle session that's all that this is.

1:23:58 Don't look, don't look at the White House. No, no, no, no. Don't look at us. No, no, no, no. It's all the, it's all the Zionists over there. They're doing it. No, no, no, no, no. No. You know what? This, this is funded by the same people. Let's, let's go into the college, the universities, they get them to protest. It's great. Pay attention over there. Well, we're taking the oil. Yeah, we love the oil. We love the oil and the Gaza gas. Hey, you can't spell Gaza without guys just saying. So it's pretty disgusting, but it's, I'm glad I found this guy. And thank you. I think it was Andrew who sent me this. That was a nice, I like to hear the whole thing. It's in the show notes. Yeah, it's about 45, about 45 minutes. It's pretty good. And uh, yeah.

1:24:50 I think you're right you get a guy in his in mid-80s, and he's like you don't care. They're gonna tell you about aliens and Secret meetings whatever you want to hear Sure it happened. What are you thinking? Yeah? I was there But the equated to the Vietnam War is interesting because that Yeah, and the systems fail by the way, but you know, yeah, well, there you go But if you go to Vietnam today and go visit yourself, it's great place. It's yeah, don't we know and there's no hard feelings It looks like to me. Yeah 50 years later It took half a century no hard feelings everybody we're all good. Hey, you sent Obama over here. That's great Yeah, he had some some noodles and some noodles felt good. I

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Joe Biden's Papua New Guinea Cannibalism Gaffe

During a visit to a war memorial in Pennsylvania, President Joe Biden claimed his uncle, Ambrose Finnegan, was eaten by cannibals after his plane was shot down over Papua New Guinea during World War II. Military records indicate the plane actually ditched in the ocean due to engine failure, and no remains were recovered. The hosts mock the absurdity of the claim and Biden's delivery.

joe biden· ambrose finnegan· papua new guinea· cannibals· world war ii· gaffe

1:25:43 Now, if you want to talk about 80-year-olds, I mean, you can have this guy, Dr. Hudson, Or you can have our president. World leaders must choose their words wisely. They don't just speak for themselves, they speak for a nation. So the last thing you want is a gaffe or an insult or worse, both. But Joe Biden did not get the memo. This week he visited a war memorial in Pennsylvania. It is dedicated to soldiers of World War II. Among them was Biden's uncle, Ambrose J. Finnegan. He died fighting in the Pacific region. As for how How he died, we let his nephew tell the story. He flew those single engine planes as reconnaissance over war zones. He got shot down in New Guinea and they never found the body because there used to be a lot of cannibals for real in that part of New Guinea. Took a wild turn, didn't it? Biden says his uncle was flying over the Pacific, his plane crashed in Papua New Guinea and then cannibals ate him. Yeah.

1:26:45 Yeah, I actually had that clip for a couple of shows ago that when he said it, it was in one of his, and he's like in one of his worst speeches because he's mumbling and he just can't get his thoughts together and he talks about the cannibals and. I really liked it when I just like Palki Sharma saying. No, I liked the way she, her presentation is better than mine. Cannibals ate him. Let's do a 3x3 on the KBM. He's got the big headline stories got clips from every single one of the big three networks What is this is about the not this was a all three networks covered this obviously they were given marching marching orders Yes, yes, and it would I consider to be a non story. I wouldn't have covered it I didn't never I've never mentioned. I think we may be

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Kennedy Family Endorses Joe Biden Over RFK Jr.

Fifteen members of the Kennedy family appeared in Philadelphia to formally endorse Joe Biden for president, pointedly snubbing their relative, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kerry Kennedy acted as the spokesperson, emphasizing that the family believes Biden is the best path forward for the country. The hosts describe the event as a "freak show" and suggest it was a coordinated effort to prevent RFK Jr. from acting as a spoiler for the Democratic ticket.

rfk jr· joe biden· kerry kennedy· kennedy family· philadelphia· 2024 election

1:27:53 in passing might have mentioned it that the some of the laggards in the Kennedy clan are turning on RFK Jr. because they don't want him to take votes away from the fabulous Joe Biden, who they think is the greatest thing since sliced bread. And so they all covered it like it was major news when nobody in their, you know, most international news outlets, very few people covered it, but the mainstream media did. And let's start with ABC. Tonight in Pennsylvania, members of the Kennedy family, including brothers and sisters of presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., throwing their support behind President Biden. Concerned RFK Jr. will hand the White House back to Donald Trump.

1:28:36 That's right, the Kennedy family endorses Joe Biden for president. The Kennedys worried RFK Jr will use his family name to win support from some Democrats in a tight race where every vote will count. We want to make crystal clear our feeling that the best way forward for America is to reelect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to four more years. Biden, who recently welcomed the family to the White House, has called RFK Jr.'s father his political hero. His bust sits in the Oval Office. RFK Jr., who has famously embraced conspiracy theories about vaccines, insists he's no spoiler. We know what President Trump and President Biden are going to do if they win this election.

1:29:24 They're going to do exactly what they did before. Does anybody here want more of the same? President Biden would carry on the family legacy better, well aware that if people vote for RFK Jr. based on the family name, it could sway this race. And polling has shown that when his name is in the mix, it does make a difference. And tonight we have learned that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will now also be on the ballot in the key state of Michigan. I have to say something about this. Of course, I saw this and this is one of those rare moments where video would have been helpful. The Kennedy family look like they're inbred freaks.

1:30:01 I mean, I think this is intentional. And then who's the spokesperson? What spokesperson do they put up there in this particular clip? The one with the same voice as R.K. Jr. Yeah, which makes you think it's some genetic thing. But behind her to the left, the dude's just there with his mouth open, his teeth are like, like he's Skeletor. No doubt that this was intentional. Yeah, to make it look like he's coming from a family of freaks. Well, there is that. If I can just say, that mouth on that guy on the left, and you have to go see it, that, the way, and when he says, I have seen that type of mouth from politician type people, I have to say, in my own family. I have seen, and it's a creepy Washington DC face. There's something really uncanny about that.

1:31:02 There's some kind of inbreeding going on in political circles that we're not privy to. But it's apparent in the Kennedy clan, the offspring is weird. Yeah, they've lost it. They've lost the plot. They've lost the good genetics. So I'm thinking this is too... Well, even if RFK had all these issues, he had some crazy disease and he was like his eyeballs were going every which way. Yeah, same with Ted. Ted was kind of the same thing with the eyeballs going every which way and I met RFK in a rally in Hayward. He seems like a nice guy. I mean there's nothing wrong with that. He looks like when you meet him in person he's a robot or he was, he's dead. But he was very robotic, weird, very strange. And his hair was like, seemed like a, it just, the hair was like

1:31:59 It had some sort of a kind of a Brillo pad type quality to it. It had a very strange looking head. Like the Cryptkeeper with those strands of hair, the really thick strands of hair on top of the skull just growing out of the skull. There's a lot of strands. Let's go to NBC. Hold on, just for analysis. Doesn't it seem to you like this is, you said it's intentional. It's intended Not you know yeah vote for Joe Biden because otherwise you can get one of us the freaks That's I don't think that was the intention. I think the intention was to Just draw more attention to RFK jr. For the people that don't like Biden And RFK himself is who liked you know mentioned some positive things about Trump early on now says Trump's a horrible guy because they want to make sure that he doesn't take votes away from Trump and

1:32:55 So, boom. I believe this is part of a master scheme. It's just an element because no one's taking any chances that the Democrats and their machine are going to rig this election and get Biden in again. And I think that's what they're worried about. So, what? They're worried about getting Biden in or not getting Biden in? No, they're worried about getting Biden in. Biden is still part of the Democrat machine that won the election against Trump. And that machine is in place and they have to make sure that it's disabled. Yes, that's exactly the disabling that machine. Yeah, if they can but here we go with NBC today with his opponent stuck in court President Biden on the attack in battleground, Pennsylvania the campaign touting the endorsement of 15 Kennedy family members even though one of their own Robert F Kennedy jr. Is running against him as an independent the best way forward for America is to reelect a

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

RFK Jr. Response to Family Endorsement and Ballot Access

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. responded to his family's endorsement of Joe Biden by stating that while they are divided in politics, they remain united in love. Kennedy's campaign recently secured ballot access in Michigan and Utah, polling above 10% in several key swing states. The hosts analyze the Democratic Party's aggressive strategy to marginalize third-party candidates who threaten Biden's re-election.

rfk jr· joe biden· michigan· utah· independent candidate· 2024 election

1:31:59 It had some sort of a kind of a Brillo pad type quality to it. It had a very strange looking head. Like the Cryptkeeper with those strands of hair, the really thick strands of hair on top of the skull just growing out of the skull. There's a lot of strands. Let's go to NBC. Hold on, just for analysis. Doesn't it seem to you like this is, you said it's intentional. It's intended Not you know yeah vote for Joe Biden because otherwise you can get one of us the freaks That's I don't think that was the intention. I think the intention was to Just draw more attention to RFK jr. For the people that don't like Biden And RFK himself is who liked you know mentioned some positive things about Trump early on now says Trump's a horrible guy because they want to make sure that he doesn't take votes away from Trump and

1:32:55 So, boom. I believe this is part of a master scheme. It's just an element because no one's taking any chances that the Democrats and their machine are going to rig this election and get Biden in again. And I think that's what they're worried about. So, what? They're worried about getting Biden in or not getting Biden in? No, they're worried about getting Biden in. Biden is still part of the Democrat machine that won the election against Trump. And that machine is in place and they have to make sure that it's disabled. Yes, that's exactly the disabling that machine. Yeah, if they can but here we go with NBC today with his opponent stuck in court President Biden on the attack in battleground, Pennsylvania the campaign touting the endorsement of 15 Kennedy family members even though one of their own Robert F Kennedy jr. Is running against him as an independent the best way forward for America is to reelect a

1:33:55 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to four more years. Responding to his family's endorsement of his opponent today, RFK Jr. posted on social media, we are divided in our opinions but united in our love for each other. The environmental lawyer and anti-vaccine activist first ran as a Democrat. Now Kennedy's independent campaign is polling above 10% in a few key swing states where Biden is also trailing Trump. Democrats are aggressively attacking third-party candidates like Kennedy whom they view as a threat to President Biden's re-election. People involved tell NBC News, though it's not clear which candidate, President Biden or former President Trump, would lose more votes to RFK Jr. Kennedy told NBC's Von Hilliard this in February. I hope to draw equal numbers from both of them. I think it's

1:34:45 At this point I'm probably drawing more from President Trump. A source familiar with the Biden campaign's planning says the Kennedy family endorsement was months in the making. Notably, they didn't mention RFK Jr.'s name once at today's event. Months in the making. They had to prop him up so they could walk on stage. Zombies. It was bizarre. Let's go to our intel agency's favorite station if they don't run it. CBS 15 members of the Kennedy family a political dynasty through support behind President Biden instead of their own relative Robert F Kennedy jr. Kerry Kennedy did not mention him by name but she insisted the race is just between Biden and Donald Trump. A vote for Joe Biden?

1:35:32 is a vote for our democracy and our decency. So far, Kennedy has secured a spot on the ballot in Utah and Michigan. The Kennedy campaign and its supporters claim they have enough signatures to appear on nearly a dozen other states, including key battlegrounds. Former Massachusetts Congressman Joe Kennedy II said he would encourage his brother to drop out. We cannot do anything that

1:36:15 in any way strips even one vote from President Biden. Today, Kennedy tweeted about his family's decision saying, quote, I am pleased they are politically active. It's a family tradition. He added that they are divided in opinions but united in their love for each other. Though there was clearly no love lost today in Philadelphia. No, no love lost. Well, this is That was a freak show. I can't say it any other way. I just look at it and go, was it a freak show? Yeah, I agree. It was a freak show. And then Joe Kennedy III, whoever that last guy was on CBS, I saw that one too, was freaky. Very freaky. They're all freaky. It's like the whole family has gone downhill.

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

House Passes $95 Billion Foreign Aid Package

Speaker Mike Johnson led the House of Representatives in passing a $95 billion foreign aid package, which includes $60 billion for Ukraine and $26 billion for Israel. The package also contains a provision to force the sale of TikTok by its Chinese parent company, ByteDance. The hosts criticize the massive spending, noting that it passed with significant Democratic support while Republican hardliners threatened to remove Johnson from his speakership.

mike johnson· ukraine aid· israel aid· taiwan· tiktok· house of representatives

1:37:05 So this is where I would have inserted the Taylor Swift news because that dominates the headlines. Oh, Taylor dropped it right on time. She didn't just drop one album, she dropped a double album with a new video coming out. Pay no attention to the military industrial complex. After we just gave the military-industrial complex 900 billion dollars that we do not have... For what we do not know, it wasn't enough. Tonight, with the Speaker's job on the line, the House passing a massive $95 billion foreign aid package with long sought assistance for Israel and Ukraine. Inside the package of four bills, $60 billion in aid for Ukraine, $26 billion to Israel, and $8 for Taiwan.

1:38:00 Legislation to force a sale of TikTok from its Chinese parent company also included. A major gamble by Speaker Mike Johnson, who's held up the aid for months and needed Democrats to get the legislation over the finish line. angering Republican hardliners. to boot Johnson from his speakership. Hardliners claiming Johnson betrayed them by not focusing on border security, despite Republicans rejecting a bipartisan border bill from the Senate after bowing to pressure from former President Trump. What we're worried about is the signal we're sending to Americans and to send $100 billion overseas without reinforcing our own borders. And Democrats now signaling they're open to backing the embattled speaker.

1:38:59 If Green makes good on her threat to call a vote for his removal. I commended by name traditional conservatives led by Speaker Mike Johnson for doing the right thing. Even former Speaker Nancy Pelosi telling me she's pleased with Johnson's push for Ukraine aid. Do you think you can trust the Speaker? Well, so far it looks that way. So, missing from this report is 26 additional billion for the military-industrial complex. Just so you know, it's like, yeah, we got some for Taiwan, we got some for Ukraine, we got some from Israel. Throw some 26 billion bucks my way, just a little tip. Give me an extra tip.

1:39:41 It's theft. They're stealing all of this. Every single bit is, it's just, it's, and I'm sure Mike Johnson is a dope. He's not in on, he's not read in, or maybe they'll give him... Well, I have four clips on this, and I think... Good. Mike Johnson, I mean we've talked about this as possible that he has a... Intel issue. ...a skeleton in the closet. Intel issue. And somebody, you know, basically went and said, we're gonna do this or that. But I found some old pictures. I was just doing a little research and found some old pictures when he was in college. He has, I don't know, my gaydar went off. And... Ah, you have gaydar?

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Mike Johnson's Churchill vs. Chamberlain Rhetoric

During the debate over the foreign aid package, House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul invoked the historical comparison of Winston Churchill and Neville Chamberlain to pressure Republicans into supporting Ukraine aid. Speaker Mike Johnson, who previously opposed Ukraine funding, cited intelligence briefings about a wider conflict as the reason for his reversal. The hosts dismiss the rhetoric as "warmongering" and a betrayal of border security priorities.

mike johnson· michael mccaul· ukraine· churchill· chamberlain· foreign aid

1:40:24 Well, I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area pretty much have to develop. It's not as good as my pal at the old tech TV who was just the guy. He was the go-to guy. But I don't have the contact with him anymore. You have this for self-preservation in the Bay Area is what you're saying. Be careful. There's a million jokes you can go with. Yeah, I know. Let's go with more Ukraine money. House of Representatives passed a $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. And Pierce Deirdre Walsh reports on the overwhelmingly bipartisan vote. Action on the assistance package for key U.S. allies was stalled for months in the House because of Republican divisions over sending more money to Ukraine.

1:41:10 The legislation includes 60 billion for Ukraine, 26 billion for Israel and 8 billion for Taiwan. House Speaker Mike Johnson, who voted against aid to Ukraine before he was elected Speaker, said he believed the intelligence about a wider conflict in the region if the U.S. failed to support its ally in its war against Russia. It's an old military adage, but we would rather send bullets to the conflict overseas than our own boys, our troops. The package also also includes a measure to force TikTok to divest from its Chinese parent company within a year or face a ban in the US. The Senate will vote as early on Tuesday on the legislation. I'm not spoken like a true Christian. Send them bullets!

1:41:53 Kill them! Kill them! Kill them! Send them bullets. I know I found that disturbing too. Disturbing, disturbing. Very disturbing. So the rest of these clips, there's three more. There's different reports. These are all from NPR, National Treasure, that's a bunch of Democrats. Who are probably getting some of this money through cut out non-profits. Yes. These clips are all discrepant. They come from here and they come from there and it's not from one presentation, it's from a bunch of them. And so you get some funny stuff in here. And so this is part two. After GOP divisions stalled action for months, the House of Representatives today approved a foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul, a Republican and vocal supporter of aid to Ukraine and warmonger extraordinaire, argued before the final vote that his party had a choice. So as we deliberate on this vote, you have to ask yourself the question,

1:42:56 in my Chamberlain or in my Churchill. Wow. Wow! That's what I thought. Wow. What an a-hole. Man, oh man. Hey, how about fixing the homeless problem? How about fixing, you know, John's Potholes? How about fixing anything? Oh, Saturday. It's Saturday. You know what? They gotta make room for the Gossens. We gotta get it all done. So here we go, here's another one. Disgusting. Chamberlain, are you Chamberlain or Churchill? Wow. I knew you'd love that one. Let's go with clip three. In the lead up to that aid package passing the House, Ukraine's Prime Minister, Denis Shmayhal, was in the US. He was meeting with members of Congress and officials in the Biden administration to make the case for more aid to Ukraine, which he says is critical for their war effort.

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Ukraine Prime Minister Denies Misuse of U.S. Aid

Ukraine's Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal visited Washington D.C. to advocate for continued military assistance, claiming that all U.S. supplies are strictly accounted for. When questioned about a Pentagon Inspector General report regarding tracking difficulties, Shmyhal dismissed the concerns as "Russian disinformation." The hosts argue that the American public is being "ripped off" by a lack of transparency in how the billions are being spent.

denys shmyhal· npr· ukraine aid· pentagon· accountability· russian propaganda

1:43:53 The Prime Minister took time to visit our DC studios, and I asked him what he'd tell Americans who are skeptical of sending more aid to Ukraine. If we just imagine that Ukraine lost this war, then it will mean that world global order is destroyed, and all of us on this planet will be under threat, that many kinds of aggressions will emerge all around the planet. How about the aggression just being perpetrated upon the American people right now by not helping us? And by the way, what he expressed there was the domino theory. Yes, the communists. From Vietnam, doing a little callback there to your earlier clips. This is bullcrap. But okay, it gets worse. This is the last clip. It's the same guy who's the Zelensky clone that's the prime minister or whatever he is, president.

1:44:51 He's the guy floating around. But if you want to hear a bullshit, artist, listen to this carefully. The Pentagon's Office of the Inspector General issued a report earlier this year. They have a report? How about an audit? Just saying. I'm glad you stopped it there because I can say, note the structure of the question. The Pentagon said the following, and here we go. According to my information, all what United States supply to Ukraine is absolutely clearly accounted and we cooperate with inspectors generals from Ministry of Defense, from Department of State, from USAID. I personally have met them two times and we have regular communication with inspector generals.

1:46:02 And they never communicate about any problems with accountability and transparency of using of United States equipment or weaponry. So we pay special attention to questions of accountability. So you've never heard that like they've been like, Hey, we don't know where these guys are. No, no, I just sometimes they told about this, but we shouldn't forget that we are under influence of Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation. And they especially implement these messages that Ukrainians are using weaponry not in proper ways. They are selling this weaponry and so on, so on. So because of this, we cooperate with our

1:46:48 partners very closely and we are very accountable for this to destroy this propaganda and this lie from the Russia side. Okay, yes I believe him. He's so convincing. Yeah it goes like this, the Pentagon, where's this follow-up, where's our NPR follow-up? The Pentagon said this, not the Russians, the Pentagon said this and he says oh it's Russian disinformation coming from the Pentagon, is that the argument he's making? And surely... How is this I'm sorry, how does this bullcrap get as far as it does? And NPR just drops the ball. It's the Pentagon, not the Russians! Which means it wasn't 40,000 but 400,000. We're being ripped off. Oh yeah. We are being ripped off.

1:47:33 And here's the recipient of 62 of this billion, of this ripoff. So Ukraine has finally got its wish. The 61 billion dollar military aid package from the United States that President Zelensky so desperately wanted. Following months of delays by Republicans in the House of Representatives, the House has now finally agreed the aid. The bill now goes to the Senate and then President Biden. Can it make any difference on the battlefield? President Zelensky seems to think so. Today we received a decision that we were waiting for. Today, we received the decision we expected, the package of American support that we fought so hard for. And it's a very significant package that will be felt by our soldiers on the front line as well as by our towns and villages that are suffering from Russian terror. Today, the U.S. House of Representatives voted. Thank you to everyone for helping to save lives.

1:48:32 The delay in agreeing an aid package has allowed the Russian military to advance further into Ukrainian territory. And isn't it just interesting that one week after I sent my check in to the US Treasury, that they turn around and give it away to themselves? I'm very, you know, and again not one of these reports mentions the extra 25, 26 billion to replenish stocks, whatever. Yeah we gave away so much we need to, you know, that's literally a ripoff. That is stolen money. The champagne must be flowing all over Washington DC. Yeah, all over Lockheed Boeing too over here down the peninsula. Also not mentioned

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

FISA Section 702 Reauthorization and Surveillance Expansion

President Biden signed a two-year reauthorization of FISA Section 702, which allows for warrantless electronic surveillance. A new amendment reportedly expands the definition of "electronic communication service providers," potentially forcing a wider range of businesses to assist in government surveillance. The hosts characterize this as the "everyone's a spy" bill, comparing the current U.S. surveillance state to Soviet-era tactics.

fisa· section 702· joe biden· warrantless surveillance· nsa· privacy

1:49:18 that the Senate passed the Section 702 reauthorization including... I have a clip. Oh thank you, thank you. Give me the clip. I couldn't find one. FISA signed. Here you go. President Biden has signed the bill to reauthorize the federal government's electronic surveillance program into law. The Senate approved a two-year extension early this morning, down from five-year extension, less than an hour after the law expired. The controversial law grants the government broad powers to conduct certain warrantless surveillance of Americans as part of anti-terrorism efforts,

1:49:56 The Biden administration and top leaders in both parties, say Congress, that say that that authority is critical to national security. When he was president, presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump reauthorized FISA. Now he opposes it. So not only a reauthorization, a warrantless reauthorization and an additional amendment, not discussed by your media, that makes every single supplier of cable, box, communications, device, has to by law allow the security and intel services into their system or has to hand over any information they request. It's called the everyone's a spy bill. And we laughed about Russia. I mean, so anything you have, your vacuum cleaner, you got a Roomba, ha! Map of your house, now with the NSA. This is...

1:50:55 We are now living in Soviet times. And then of course we didn't steal enough. We're stealing a hundred billion from these saps, these stupid Americans. It's indecent. You know what these people are? They're indecent. They're indecent. They open our borders. It's just indecency. And it's evil. I mean they're controlled by Satan and it's yeah, and it's I mean that and it's not enough was never the a communist plot Satan and it's not a look every as Bob Dylan said Everybody serves somebody you know that song Bob Dylan call back call back to Bob call back. Yes a call back to Taylor Swift. Yeah But that wasn't enough no no

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

TikTok Divestiture Bill and the Creator Ad Machine

The House passed legislation that would ban TikTok in the U.S. unless ByteDance divests the platform within a year. The hosts discuss the platform's success as an "advertising bonanza" that uses leaderboards and "heating" algorithms to manipulate creators into promoting specific products like Ozempic. They argue the move to force a sale is an attempt by U.S. interests to "steal" a superior ad machine they cannot compete with.

tiktok· bytedance· steve mnuchin· algorithms· ozempic· advertising

1:51:42 Let's steal tick-tock to in the US lawmakers have also passed a bill which could lead to a ban on tick-tock the bipartisan legislation forces the popular social media platform to divest itself from its Chinese parent company by dance Or face a nationwide ban the bill gives tick-tock one year to sell its stake to a US based entity Lawmakers in both parties have raised national security and data privacy concerns. Supporters of TikTok question the constitutionality of the bill. The popular video app has an estimated 170 million users in the US alone.

1:52:20 Oh, this is so dynamite. The money, the champagne, it's caviar now. Thank, hey Google, haha, where's my money? Where's my hookers and blow because I did it for you. Oh yeah, we're stealing all that too. Very successful. I like to, this is I think a good, I think people should know this is a good way of putting it. Stealing TikTok. It's super successful, it's got nothing to do with anything. If anything, it doesn't gather enough data in terms of spying on Americans. But it's money maker, it's a killer. Let's steal it. Let's do the American, we can't compete. No, no. Can't compete, look, we've tried.

1:53:03 We gave it a shot. We tried to compete. We even invented a pre, you know, proto TikTok back in the day called Twigs or whatever the hell it was. Vine. Twigs. Twigs. Twigs. Oh man, it's a new video service by the No Agenda Show. Twigs! Everybody, hey, did you post a twig? Yeah, I posted a twig. I posted a twig and a branch. And so, uh, it has a bud. And so, uh, we tried it and it was that no one knew what they were doing. These guys come along, they're successful. We try to compete on other way. Okay, well now we know how to do it right. We can't do it. Nobody can compete. So in the good old American way of free enterprise, we can't compete. Let's steal it.

1:53:50 So, and I just want to break this down for one second because we have insiders who've explained to me why TikTok is so successful because it is an advertising bonanza and here's how it works. When you become a TikTok creator, which I despise, there's only one creator and it's not on TikTok. So when you're... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, let me say what I want to say. If you're bored of me, The board? What kind of sentence is that? Because you went, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't like me saying that? No, I think it's fine. It's just that, you know, it's a... You're making a point and then you bring religion into it for no real reason except a virtue signal. No, there is a reason. It's not a virtue signal. There's a reason that it's called creator because they want you to worship false idols. I think it's very intentional.

1:54:47 That's why I say. I'll go with that. Okay. I think you might have beyond something, but you need a little more evidence because it's been that term has been, you know, the creative type. I've never liked it. I've been before I was a Jesus freak. I didn't like it. Yeah, you never liked it. I agree. But it's, I think it has a pretense, a pretense that's slightly annoying. Okay. So I'd never have to mention it again. Right. So they take these tick talkers, they, have ads and they have a whole back-end system with a leaderboard and they show which TikTokers have been successful at getting ads triggered by their TikTok. So, they'll say, okay, up for bid is Ozempic, that's the easiest one. Ozempic, here's the trigger words that we're gonna give you, there may be a few more. If you put these into your TikTok,

1:55:43 then we will actually promote that, we'll heat you, we'll heat up your TikTok and that will trigger ads and you start to make money. So they have an entire competition going on with a leaderboard, who's the top, so everyone's looking at everybody else, oh what did you do here? Okay, what trigger words did you use? So they have created this ad machine which is of course completely abusive of these poor people because you can't just do one, no you've got to do five a day. And every product has this. So, and they're not disclosing it. They're not disclosing because they're not really saying go buy Ozempic. Some do, and there's a lot of gray area there, but that's the system that TikTok has built. And they have really figured out how to manipulate the algorithms to send it to the people that need it the most at that very moment. And that is the opposite

1:56:41 of what the algorithms within Facebook and all these other things do. So they, and the creat- I said it. The TikTokers are all there. They're not on Reels and they're not on any, they're not on YouTube Shorts. And- Shorts. It's a bonanza. So steal it. Steal it. First of all, If I'm not mistaken, Jill Abramson, our girl with the vocal fry. She, when she was at the New York Times and in her book, she discussed this kind of thing where, and I think Buzzfeed was the first to perfect it, where they had these leaderboards on what was getting attention. It wasn't about what was triggering ad clicks, but what was triggering

1:57:34 Clicks and now there was was the call when you try to trick somebody into clicking on something clickbait clickbait And they had a clickbait board and all the and so they were read jiggering the way they do headlines and everything else at New York Times and other places But it wasn't it wasn't so so it wasn't this they took it to the next level at tick-tock Yeah, and they did And they did a beautiful job of it. You have to compliment them. Oh, no, you got to steal it from them. That's what we do. Compliment and then steal it from them. Just steal it. We'll steal it or you're shut down. You know, obviously... Sorry. By the way, this is the worst. So yes, please play her. I read the New York Times like all day long, mainly on my iPad app.

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

China's New Cyber Force and U.S. 911 Outages

Chinese President Xi Jinping unveiled a new "Information Support Force" to bolster China's cyber warfare capabilities. Simultaneously, several U.S. states, including Texas and Nebraska, experienced significant 911 emergency system outages. Former cybersecurity chief Chris Krebs warned that the U.S. "homeland is no longer a sanctuary," leading the hosts to suggest these events are being used to justify increased domestic cybersecurity spending.

xi jinping· cyber force· 911 outage· cybersecurity· chris krebs· beijing

1:58:26 So now let's go to China because I think there's a couple of things going on. Remember that we really need to pivot to some really big war stuff. I'm just, I mean now it's just, I see where the money's going. All our money's going to military. President Eisenhower warned us for it. They probably killed JFK over it. Who knows, you know, the CIA goes in, makes a, you know, creates problems in a country, then we need to get the military in. But, you know, Ukraine is done. There's nothing left. There's no people left. There's nobody left to shoot bullets anymore. By the way, that's not genocide. And it's over. You know, it's like Mike Johnson put his butt on the line. He'll never get reelected. We'll see. Poor guy, done. You fool. Whatever his problem was, they got to him. We need to build huge ships, beautiful subs.

1:59:23 and we need to rearm the bases in the Indo-Pacific, this is where all the big money is. So we've got to start ramping up China. So I think the TikTok theft is part of it. It'll certainly irk China once that completes, has to happen within a year. And as part of the deal, they have to, within three months of the signing and approval of the bill, we're not quite there yet, They have to make all of their stuff exportable so it can be easily imported into Google, into YouTube, YouTube Shorts or into Reels or both, whatever. Shorts. Yeah, that's part of this legislation. Every time I hear that I think of underwear, YouTube Shorts. Yeah, I mean it's stupid. It's also stupid.

2:00:07 Stupid. So first we've got to start rattling the cage. Here's the BBC. China's President Xi Jinping has appeared at a ceremony in Beijing to unveil a new cyber force. The aim, says Beijing, is to bolster China's capacity to fight and win wars. The move comes weeks after Western countries, including the US and Britain, accused the Communist state of cyber espionage. Okay, so that's the setup and I am still all in that

2:00:42 The US and China are playing together. Hey, I got a great idea. We both need to print money. We all want to steal stuff, certainly from our people. So why don't we rattle some sabers and like, oh here's my cyber, here's my cyber force. Oh and just right on cue. Breaking this afternoon, Honolulu police reporting a brief 911 outage in the city. Coming after more outages Wednesday night on the mainland. You may have difficulty reaching us. Internally, we're having difficulty receiving 911 calls as well. 6 p.m. Central Time, multiple 911 centers suddenly cut off in parts of four states. South Dakota, Nebraska, Nevada and Texas. Several call centers pushed out emergency alerts telling locals to use their cell phones or text for help.

2:01:32 To our knowledge, we have never experienced an outage of this magnitude or duration. U.S. cybersecurity has warned that hackers want to exploit vulnerabilities to disrupt or degrade 911 service. At risk? Sensitive data that could affect emergency responsibilities. Was anybody injured? Already ransomware attacks on 911 centers including Bucks County, Pennsylvania. have forced dispatchers to revert to manual systems. In 2017, 911 centers in more than a dozen states were paralyzed. Now, amid heightened global tensions and a divisive election looming here at home, concern that critical emergency communications can easily be undermined. Chris Krebs is the federal government's former cybersecurity chief.

2:02:16 The homeland, as we say, is no longer a sanctuary. So we really have to bake in cybersecurity resilience measures into every business plan, into every operational plan. Beautiful, beautiful cyber rattling is what it is now. That was better than saber rattling is cyber. I do. Russians apparently have been doing this in Ukraine, supposedly have a clip, but you don't play it. I'd rather mention this. I want to stick on China because I have two NPR clips now. Oh yeah, I just like this harem, scarim kind of reporting. Oh yeah. I'm flipping around, this is just in the side, I'm flipping around so I go to story television, all this stuff over the air is fantastic.

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Geopolitical Pivot to Iran and Chinese Steel Tariffs

The Biden administration is reportedly asking China to use its influence to restrain Iran following recent regional escalations. At the same time, Biden announced plans to triple tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports to protect the U.S. industry. The hosts question the contradictory nature of these diplomatic moves and discuss the ongoing threat to shipping in the Red Sea by Houthi rebels.

iran· china· steel tariffs· joe biden· houthis· red sea

2:02:59 And so, but they play, but over the air stuff, they play old stuff. I mean that Leonard Nimoy thing that we played on the last show is being played as you know, kind of as we speak. They're still throwing it out there? So I clicked around and there's an Armageddon story, because they're just killing air time. They have all these channels. And it was about 2012. Do you remember the 2012 bullcrap at the Mayan calendar and the world's gonna end on January? We had a challenge coin. Yeah, we did, that's right. We did Challenge Coin with the Mayan guys on it. Yeah, sure. And I'm watching this, it was an hour, I've gotta go back, I'm gonna have to find somebody, it's gotta be downloadable somewhere and get some clips from it because it is so ludicrous to listen to these guys go on and on and on, and I think this was produced like in 2011, so it was a year before the 2012 apocalypse.

2:03:58 And it was just like a head shaker. Do you remember the other big story of 2012? The big, big PSYOP? What? Kony 2012. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That guy was 2012. Yeah. That crazy. I mean, this is almost laughable. So how do we, how do we pivot to Indo-Pacific? How do we get to China? Well, let's, Let's pivot through Iran. There's a global diplomatic push to try to avert a broad regional war in the Middle East following Iran's attack on Israel last weekend as Israel waits a possible response. As part of that push, the US is reaching out to China, hoping Beijing will use its influence on Tehran.

2:04:44 But it's unclear how far China is willing to go, especially now because today the Biden administration announced it wants to triple tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports. NPR international affairs correspondent Jackie Northam joins us now to discuss. Good morning, Jackie. Good morning, Laila. Why China? What sort of influence does it have with Tehran? Well, it's one of the largest countries that has some sway with Iran. You know, the natural bedfellows in their opposition to the US. But you know, Beijing also offers Tehran diplomatic support and certainly an economic lifeline. You know, it's really the only country buying Iranian oil. So they do have this strong, if mostly transactional relationship. Bullshit. No, this is all complete horse crap, but this is the new narrative. Oh, it's really China who's doing it. So if the US is hoping for China's help in this moment to pressure Iran, which is warning it would respond harshly to any possible response from Israel,

2:05:40 Why make the decision to triple tariffs now? It's hard to say. It's an election year. It could help the US steel industry. You know, the timing is interesting if the US is looking for China's help. There have been moments when China has stepped out, you know, it helped broker a deal to reestablish relations with Saudi Arabia and Iran. And at that time, there were indications Beijing wanted to position itself as a critical player in the region. Okay, so we've seen China play a really important role in the region, as you point out. Does that continue today? Would Beijing be willing in this moment with fears of all out regional war to intervene with Iran?

2:06:15 Well, that's a hope. I mean, several analysts I spoke with said there have been times when, you know, Beijing could have used its influence in the region and it didn't. You know, there were calls recently for China to exert pressure on Iran to rein in the Houthis and their attacks on shipping vessels in the Red Sea didn't happen. Yeah, that was another thing that the Professor Hudson was talking about. He's like the worst thing that can happen that an oil tanker is sunk in the Gulf of Aden. That will ruin Biden's entire election chances because that will of course skyrocket oil even though nothing has really happened. Isn't it like 90 bucks now? It has gone up a bit. You would know better than I do. Last time I looked it's in the 80s but let me take a quick look right it's 82 11 so it's not that high at all.

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BRICS Expansion and Boeing's Non-Union Labor Issues

The expansion of the BRICS nations, including Saudi Arabia and Egypt, is noted as a significant threat to the U.S. petrodollar system. Meanwhile, Boeing's recent safety and manufacturing issues are linked by the hosts to the company's use of non-union labor at its South Carolina plant. They discuss the United Auto Workers' (UAW) recent success in unionizing a Volkswagen plant in Tennessee as a sign of shifting labor dynamics in the South.

brics· petrodollar· boeing· uaw· south carolina· volkswagen

2:07:06 Well, that's high, but it's not, you know, it should be in the 60s, but 82-11. So my eye is on this connecting, because, you know, of course we have the BRICS, which is really the irony of all this, the irony of what we're doing in the Middle East. Oh yeah, the BRICS, yeah. That's something I personally think we don't talk enough about on the show. Well, because the media is very wary to discuss it. Because, you know, if you really look at it now that Saudi Arabia, Egypt... They've all joined the BRICS. Now, it's not going to happen overnight that they're going to have some magic alternative reserve currency, but it is hurting our petrodollar system. In fact, listen to this. Russia, this has worked out so well. Russia's economy is growing faster than all advanced economies, according to the IMF. And Bloomberg reports Russia's oil exports have hit an 11-month high.

2:08:05 Well done, everybody. This is good. You're doing a good job. Well, nobody wants to talk about that. No. Then we have Boeing melting down and a lot of boots on the ground reports. Most of them say that when they moved the building to South Carolina, it was non-union and that this is probably a push to bring Boeing back into the unions. But here's Sir Viper, 515, he says, I've been a professional pilot for 30 years, both helicopter and airplanes. I think you and John got so close but so far from why Boeing is in the crosshairs of the M5M in government. I am certain it is because the South Carolina plant is non-union. Dems want good paying union jobs. For people not in the industry, the kinds of problems reported of Boeing happen to every manufacturer.

2:09:04 Except maybe for the door plug blowout. When I flew for an airline, they had an engine cowling, not a Boeing product, fall off in flight, landing in someone's backyard. I fly private now and things fail. I picked up a brand new mid-sized business jet from the factory. We had five aircraft on ground, which is used to prioritize part delivery because the plane can't fly without getting fixed in one year. I know of a plane that came out of a service center with a bolt in the emergency exit door making it unusable. Stuff happens. Aircraft are much more complicated than cars. They go through tremendous temperature changes every flight and have forces applied to them from every direction." And then he winds up by saying, don't get me started on helicopters. Yeah, gotcha. Then we have

2:09:50 The 787 was an attempt to... this is different boots on the ground... was an attempt to offshore parts to be assembled in the US. The reason? Lower costs and bypass the union-dominated Pacific Northwest assembly team. To get the parts cheaper, international fabrication operations would tool wings and fuselages all to be legoed together. To avoid the costly Pacific Northwest unionized and senior assemblers, the South Carolina factory was built. Hey, let's just get some hillbillies to assemble the legos coming in from all over the world. So, you know, it's the aviation industry sees what's going on. I'm all in on this analysis. Yes, I think is completely right. Especially, I don't think I have a clip.

2:10:32 I thought I did, of this huge celebration that the UAW just did because they got, I think it's in North Carolina, I think is where this plant is, a Volkswagen factory, first overseas manufacturer of cars. All the car makers moved there, put shops in South Carolina, North Carolina, those areas. And they got union, the union, the UAW got in on the Volkswagen plant, which should be interesting to see how that goes. And now they think they have a foothold or a starting point in the south to unionize these auto companies. So the unions are making inroads and it's like, I don't know totally what to make of it, but everyone's going to be unionized down there as you'd expect.

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Title IX Revisions and Gender Identity Policy

The Biden administration issued new rules for Title IX that expand the definition of sex to include gender identity, allowing biological males to compete in women's sports and access female locker rooms. The hosts discuss the backlash from female athletes and the potential for these administrative rules to be challenged in court. They suggest that the "Chevron deference" legal doctrine will be central to future challenges against such executive overreach.

title ix· joe biden· gender identity· women's sports· chevron deference· department of education

2:11:29 Something that the algos are telling me to be very worried about that I don't have any clips from but oh my goodness Are the controlled opportunists yelling and screaming about title 9? Do you have a clip about title 9 because I couldn't get no I know it's funny because I should have because I've been following it closely, but it's all because of Biden's recent you know, proclamation that sex is gender and so you can be whatever you want. And it wasn't Biden, but it was a policy statement that came out of the White House and it's like, OK, that means Title IX is useless. Because Title IX was the provision to give female athletes mainly some

2:12:13 mechanism to get as much money or to get as many scholarships or to try to keep them, you know, vibrant in college athletes, athletics, I'm sorry, and it's now pretty useless. Well, they've rewritten it so that they have actually rewritten Title IX to change sex to gender, so therefore allowing biological men to compete in women's sports, be in their dressing rooms, etc. And Tina, who's my canary in the coal mine, like Megyn Kelly, she's like, Megyn Kelly was hot on this. Hair on fire, Algo is all flipping out. Oh wow, everybody look at this. And what they fail to mention is that this can all be done away with Chevron deference, which will come up in our lifetime because this is just a rule written by the Department of Health.

2:13:06 I hope so. The Department of Education just writes this rule, like, oh, we're just going to change it to gender. I mean, Congress, it's their responsibility. They really need to write the law and, you know, they need to step in. They're too busy stealing TikTok. We've got a TikTok stealing party going on here. But that's what needs to happen. And Chevron deference will force Congress to take these matters into account. Yeah, they're degenerates. Yeah, I don't have any clips on Title IX. There's a lot of complaining, I can say that. Of course, it's horrible for women. There's no more women. It is horrible for women. They have a right to complain. Women don't, yeah, we don't have a right to complain. Maybe that's why there's no clips. Women, get us some clips. Need to do some climate change because there is stuff happening here and this is a call back to the

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Alaska Oil Drilling Ban and Tesla Cybertruck Recall

President Biden finalized a plan to block oil and gas development across 13 million acres of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska. This move is contrasted with the recent recall of all 3,878 Tesla Cybertrucks due to a faulty accelerator pedal that could get stuck. The hosts argue that the push for electric vehicles is a "scam" that ignores the fundamental necessity of oil for modern life, from plastics to transportation.

alaska· willow project· joe biden· tesla· cybertruck· elon musk· recall

2:14:10 Whatever you do, let's not do any oil here in America. The Biden administration today finalizing a plan to prevent oil development across more than half the US government's mammoth petroleum reserve in Alaska. This move is among a string of actions by President Biden to curtail development on federal lands and wall off more than 41 million acres for conservation. It comes as Biden seeks to gain support from young climate minded voters after disappointing some last year by authorizing ConocoPhillips massive willow oil project. The administration is also moving to block road construction essential to opening a copper mine in the state. The moves have drawn condemnation from oil, gas and mining interests who said the Biden administration is locking up resources essential for fueling America's energy needs today and in the future. That includes, they say, critical minerals for batteries and other technology.

2:15:04 I'm just looking at this in a whole new light now. It's just no. We are all on the Middle East oil train. That's ultimately what Russia's about. These kooks, they want Russia. They don't care about Putin. They want Russia's oil and gas. That's what they're after. That's why they hate Putin. Putin's the one that kicked him out. After the wall came down, you had that drunk guy running the show. Everybody... Browder. This is what Browder was... Yeah, yeah. This is what it was all about. Everyone was in there like, hey, this is great. We're setting... We're raping Russia. We're getting all their gas. This is fantastic. Putin comes in and says, nyet! That's why they're mad at him. I don't think even... It's not ideological. They just say, hey, hey, hey, we were taking that. It's just thieving.

2:15:55 Elon Musk is in on all this with the stupid Tesla that we all fell for. It's a computer on wheels. It's still going, it's still falling for it. Are you kidding? Yeah, but now he's like, oh, I'm going to lower the price $2,000 everybody. Come on, buy my battery cars. It's great. You don't need oil over here. The rest of the world can have it. We're not going to steal all that oil. You plug in your car. Hey, bought a Cybertruck? Elon Musk's car company Tesla has issued a recall for all of its Cybertruck electric pickup trucks because its accelerator pedal can apparently get stuck down. Cybertruck owners reported that the pad covering the accelerator pedal could come loose and get trapped by the vehicle's trim.

2:16:38 That causes the truck to accelerate unintentionally, raising the risk of a crash. The Cybertruck, his most latest brainchild, being released just five months ago after repeated delays. Well, for more on this, I'm now joined in the studio by DW reporter Ben Dorman. So Ben, this sounds like a pretty serious issue. What exactly is behind it? Well, according to Tesla, it all comes down to soap. So what's been happening is that employees working in the factories making this truck have been using soap as lubricant to kind of get this Pedal pad jammed on when they shouldn't be and the reason they shouldn't be is because that's in leave been leaving behind a soapy residue And it's that residue that's causing this pad to slip off the accelerator entirely Let's get stuck which is causing these problems, and you have to bear in mind here We're talking about a truck that weighs over three tons that Elon Musk and Tesla are very proud it can go from zero to 100 kilometers per hour in under three seconds and

2:17:29 So if you're behind the wheel and this gets stuck, you might have very little time to act. Now Tesla is very keen to point out that if you slam on the brakes at the same time as this problem, you will stop the engine. They'll be okay. However, clearly they're acknowledging this is a very serious issue because as you said, they're recalling absolutely every one of these trucks that have rolled off the production line since November. They're saying to customers, you've got to bring them back. We need to fix this. I love that. It's lubricant. So the big joke is we're all focused on battery cars, but without oil, no life. You know, you got nothing. You have, look around your house. Where's plastic? I mean, without oil, paint, plastic, plastic, clothing, food, medication, a lot of medication. Everything needs oil. Transportation is just a part of it.

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Jennifer Granholm on The View and Green Energy Jobs

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm appeared on "The View" to promote the administration's green energy initiatives and the growth of EV manufacturing. She claimed that 600 new factories have been established in the U.S. since the passage of recent climate legislation. The hosts criticize her claims about EV range and cost-effectiveness, noting that rising electricity bills and the push for "smart meters" are the reality for most consumers.

jennifer granholm· the view· department of energy· electric vehicles· smart meters· manufacturing

2:18:23 But we're being told we need to drive electric vehicles and just to jam it all home, remember, no oil. They're taking all our money. Not only are we, they're just, I'm so disappointed in our government. They hate us. Our government hates us. Braking? I don't think so. I think they don't care. Oh, okay. There's a thin line between not caring and hating. I think some... I don't think it's hate. Some really do. Hillary Clinton hates us. She's not in government anymore. Jennifer Granholm, that is our energy secretary. You can always tell it's her because it looks like she has two saucers on the side of her head as her ears.

2:19:09 And she was on the view to of course, you know, promote climate change. Department of Energy, we are a science entity and we've got 17 national labs and we're all focused on how do you extend the range of the vehicles. So now when you buy an electric vehicle, most electric vehicles can go between 150-300 miles. but they're working up to 500 miles and they need fewer times to charge. Listen to the ladies, oh yeah, ooh yeah, ooh yeah, ooh yeah. But they're working up to 500 miles and they need fewer times to charge. If you're an Uber driver and you have to refill your gas. Hey by the way, if all you've got is an Uber driver, because that's your job of the future, well you. If you're an Uber driver and you have to refill your gas tank all the time, on average you go about 200 miles

2:19:55 a day. I mean, that's a huge thing. That is. So anyway, that's one of the ways you can reduce. She nuts. Retort Uber car go 300 miles and the fill up takes about how long you think seven minutes, seven minutes, maybe maybe 10 at the most as opposed to waiting for hours in line. And you may have to wait for it in line for hours before you get to the charger, which takes hours. Yeah. I mean, but it's so much more cost effective. People like this are... Evil. People like this really should be shot. You might want to take that back. Okay, they shouldn't be shot, they should be hung. People like this should be hung.

2:20:42 upside down. Huge savings for folks. So anyway, that's one of the ways you can reduce your bills and reduce your carbon pollution. How much more evidence... Carbon pollution, notice it's no longer carbon dioxide. I'm just gonna keep hammering on that. It's now just carbon pollution. What do these people need when they see what goes on with hurricanes etc? How do we convince these people to start believing the truth. Yeah, totally, Joy. I think she's talking about us, John, these people. It is, it's a version of fake news, right? People are believing things that are not accurate. We, for anybody who cares about this, we have a section on our website at energy.gov called Malarkey Corner, which debunks a lot of this stuff. For the past 10 years, it has been every year, a record year of heat, right? Right. Oh yeah. Right. Right. Right.

2:21:35 Uh, wow. Malarkey Corner. There's some marketing. Let's see, now she talks about what the president has done. I'm going to the site by the way and looking for malarkey corridor. Okay, you go take a look. You're seeing it globally, the costs of cleaning up after all these extreme weather events, taxpayers are having to pay for that, and people are starting to experience. But you know, here's my good news about this. You know, we're all so cynical about politics, etc. But under, you know, the president had these bills that were passed, and Lord knows policy actually works because what we are seeing is all of these factories being built across America hiring young people in red states, in blue states. Young people who are illegally here. To be able to build the means to reduce our climate pollution like whether they're solar panel factories or EV factories or battery factories for those EVs.

2:22:29 We've had, you know, I've come from Michigan, I was the former governor of Michigan. We saw so many jobs leave, so much offshoring, you know, of jobs and communities that are devastated by a factory going somewhere else. Car factories, right? Exactly, car factories. But this was true in manufacturing all across because, you know, we have economic competitors like China who have a strategic plan to go and get and build up their manufacturing sector. But what the president We're not going to do that anymore. We are going to get manufacturing back in this country. And this sector, this clean energy sector is a huge opportunity for jobs for young people, for old people, for rural folks, for folks in communities that have been left behind. Oh, John, for old people. There's jobs for us. There is a life after podcasting. We can go work in a battery factory.

2:23:35 That's gotta be a healthy job. Final clip here. Since these bills have been passed, just in the energy sector, there have been 600 factories that have cropped up in pockets all across America to build these. It's amazing. The manufacturing sector is back. Jobs are back. Stamp it, Made in America. Use it here. Use it with American workers. Just saying. Hopefully you don't look convinced. I am convinced, but I do have questions because people are getting bills, energy bills, electric bills that are insane. And I don't understand how you can tell, because I watch these guys. They come and they look at the little thing going around and then they read the number. How do you know $300 is on there? How do you know to charge me? Yes, good point. Good point. Good point, Whoopi.

2:24:25 Yeah, that's why we need smart meters. That's the follow-up, but Granholm missed it. What an opportunity. Kind of related, really more related to Big Pharma, honestly, and there's a couple of things that before we take a break. Actually, I'll do this real quick just because we're I'm still monitoring the bird flu. On the medical watch concerns about the potential for bird flu to spread among humans. The World Health Organization is calling for more tracking and preparation. H5N1 is a highly infectious strain of the virus that's been spreading within several mammal species, including cows here in the US.

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Bird Flu Monitoring and Nestle Sugar Controversy

The World Health Organization is calling for increased tracking of the H5N1 bird flu strain as it spreads among mammals in the U.S. In a separate health story, a study by Public Eye revealed that Nestle adds sugar to infant products sold in the "Global South" while keeping European versions sugar-free. The hosts discuss the long-term health implications of hooking infants on sugar to drive future pharmaceutical and food industry profits.

bird flu· h5n1· who· nestle· sugar· global south· obesity

2:23:35 That's gotta be a healthy job. Final clip here. Since these bills have been passed, just in the energy sector, there have been 600 factories that have cropped up in pockets all across America to build these. It's amazing. The manufacturing sector is back. Jobs are back. Stamp it, Made in America. Use it here. Use it with American workers. Just saying. Hopefully you don't look convinced. I am convinced, but I do have questions because people are getting bills, energy bills, electric bills that are insane. And I don't understand how you can tell, because I watch these guys. They come and they look at the little thing going around and then they read the number. How do you know $300 is on there? How do you know to charge me? Yes, good point. Good point. Good point, Whoopi.

2:24:25 Yeah, that's why we need smart meters. That's the follow-up, but Granholm missed it. What an opportunity. Kind of related, really more related to Big Pharma, honestly, and there's a couple of things that before we take a break. Actually, I'll do this real quick just because we're I'm still monitoring the bird flu. On the medical watch concerns about the potential for bird flu to spread among humans. The World Health Organization is calling for more tracking and preparation. H5N1 is a highly infectious strain of the virus that's been spreading within several mammal species, including cows here in the US.

2:25:06 So far there's no evidence it can spread from person to person. In the hundreds of cases though where humans have been infected through contact with animals over the past 20 years, the mortality rate is extraordinarily high. That's because humans have no natural immunity to this virus. Still keeping an eye on that for the election, keeping an eye on the the bird flu. It's you know, they're telling you that hey if it gets out, if it transfers, I'm waiting for the story. First humans, it's breaking. first human to human transmission of bird flu H5N1. When that happens, you know that we're headed for some bad times. This is, this will be one of my final clips here. As I think we've discussed, big pharma and big food, big ag, big food always work together. And you know, the whole idea is get people hooked, people hooked on processed food, and then we'll give them some

2:26:04 some medication to fix that problem. Ozempic, the GLP-1 drugs is a great example of that. We need to expand this market. That's what Nestle was thinking. We need to expand our market, which will help our brothers over there at GLP-1 drug companies. This latest research from Public Eye comes with a very clear message. Nestle must stop adding sugar to products aimed at infants. The study showed that the Swiss consumer giant had been adding sugar to things like baby cereal and infant milk across the global south, here in Senegal but also in countries like Nigeria and South Africa as well. At the same time, Nestlé hadn't been adding sugar to equivalent products sold in European markets.

2:26:51 This toxic commercial practice flies in the face of all guidance from the WHO and other public health bodies. Sugar, particularly when given to infants, increases their risk of developing diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure and other non-communicable diseases later in life. It's a highly addictive substance and giving it to young children increases their risk of essentially getting a taste for it. The UN estimates that 39 million children under the age of five worldwide are either obese or overweight. Africa has seen a 23% increase in the number of obese and overweight children under the age of five since the turn of the century.

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Migrant Resource Complaints and Chicago's $1.25 Billion Bond

In New York City, migrants have publicly complained about the quality of food provided in city shelters. Meanwhile, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson secured City Council approval for a $70 million migrant aid package and a $1.25 billion bond for housing and economic development. Local residents expressed frustration at the special meeting, arguing that the city should prioritize its existing homeless population and struggling neighborhoods over new arrivals.

brandon johnson· chicago· migrants· bond deal· shelter· new york city

2:27:35 The activities of companies like Nestle and other multinational giants which draw in huge profits are certainly not making the situation better. I love that! Hook them young! Get them on the sugar! Well, I'm glad that they figured that out. They what? Hook them on the sugar or that they're calling them out on it? I don't know if they're... Either one. I kept a couple of last-the-ditch ones here. Okay. I thought this was funny. This was an illegal immigrant complaining about food since she just did a food clip. Meanwhile in New York City, a clip from a Tuesday committee hearing is being shared online. It shows an immigrant criticizing the situation at a New York City shelter. At the shelter, the food, my kids cannot eat the food at the shelter.

2:28:34 And on Ramadan time we couldn't eat because when you come back for the breaks, the food is no good at all. The city held the hearing to probe whether black illegal immigrants are treated unfairly in the Big Apple. No! No, we give our people and our children the same crap food. What's wrong with you? Yeah, that's what, I think that's the point. Before you move on, I do have a breaking clip from, regarding the replacement migration in Chicago. This this is the we might as well title this episode. They're stealing. This is a group This is awesome what they're doing here the only difference from where I stand now and where I stood in November and May of last year Was that I was a no then

2:29:20 Today I'm a hell no. Several older people voicing frustration today at a special city council meeting at City Hall. A $70 million allocation to help care for new migrants and a $1.25 billion bond to fund housing and economic development. It was a mixed bag of older people for and against funding the care of migrants in the city. We have to take care of our problems first. We have 3,200 children 3,200 children in our shelter system. Where will they go when we can no longer operate our shelters? But overall the measure passed 30 to 18 approving Mayor Brandon Johnson's plan to take 70 million dollars in surplus money to help pay for food and operational costs of migrant shelters. This 70 million dollars is the responsible thing to do. There were several failed motions to put more

2:30:17 Aldermanic Oversight on the second agenda item, a 1.25 billion dollar bond deal. The Johnson proposed plan did pass and will provide funding for housing and economic development in the city. Party time in Chirac! 1.25 billion dollars. That's a thousand million dollar homes that won't be built. Yeah. And it's a bond, which means it comes from your taxes, doesn't it? Usually. It depends on how it's structured. Well, yes, but I mean, how mad do you think people in Chicago are? Well, it sounds like they're mad, but they don't seem to have the wherewithal or gumption or the political selectivity. There's nobody that you can do. What are you going to do? You can't vote these guys out. The next one that comes in is worse.

2:31:10 Because there's nobody that's running that can fix the problem. It's time for revolution. It's a machine, the Democrat machine runs Chicago. So you know, no matter who you're with, they pre-select who's going to win. How did somebody like, for example, Rahm Emanuel coming right out of the White House become the mayor of Chicago out of the blue? Great. How does that work? That was great. It was a machine. That was great. The Chicago Machine and nobody can do anything about it. They're the ones who put it in place. Yeah, it's fantastic. So, so good. It's fantastic. It's good for the show. This is good fodder. Anything else you want to play?

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Los Angeles $30 Million Garda World Warehouse Heist

Thieves stole $30 million from a Garda World money storage facility in Sylmar, California, on Easter Sunday. The burglars reportedly entered through the roof and breached the safe without triggering alarms, leading investigators to suspect an "inside job." The hosts contrast the media's fascination with this $30 million theft with the government's recent "theft" of nearly $1 trillion through the foreign aid package.

garda world· sylmar· los angeles· heist· inside job· lapd

2:31:48 Yeah, I do have this is one interesting I thought this was a funny clip because this is these are what I would call criminals who are just the kind of above the fray and this is the story about the crazy 30 million dollar heist. Oh, this is you've had this clip around for a while. Yeah, I've been wanting to play it. Well, I'm glad cuz I'm kind of tired of seeing it show up every time. I'm like, really that clip again? We'll never play that clip. Here it is! Several days ago on Easter Sunday a lot of folks went to church, a lot of folks hosted an Easter Sunday brunch, and the kids took part in the annual Easter egg hunt. Later that night, a heist of epic proportions, thieves broke into the Garda World warehouse just behind me and made away with $30 million.

2:32:32 Garda World sits on the 15,600 block of Roxford Street in the Los Angeles suburb of Sylmar. On their website, they describe themselves as a global champion in security services, integrated risk management and cash solutions. And they're also simply referred to as a money storage facility. So it was a surprise for everyone on Monday morning when the business opened up and they realized they'd been robbed. The LA Times reported that the thieves were so stealthy that the safe showed no signs of a break-in from the outside and the operators of the business didn't know a thing till they opened it on Monday. Next door to the Garda World Warehouse we caught up with retired LAPD detective Moses Castillo who tells us who he thinks is responsible for the haul.

2:33:14 To me this smells of an inside job, 100%. There's no down room on my mind. 100%! Castillo went on to say that these buildings are very difficult to breach. These buildings have very sophisticated alarm systems and video footage cameras everywhere. And to go undetected to the next morning, it has to be somebody that knew how to bypass all that. One person familiar with the investigation said the thieves got into the building through the roof and they somehow managed to avoid setting off any alarms when they got into the money storage area in the warehouse. And just exactly who does he think is responsible for this monumental money grab? One person? Maybe a group?

2:33:55 Either it's a current dishonest employee or somebody that was recently discharged for whatever reason or retired or what not. But I believe this was really well planned out. But I also believe they may have had lookouts. And sometimes when they do these operations, they'll have radio communications monitoring the police frequency to see if the police were dispatched. And if they were, they give the people a heads up, hey, the police are coming, let's bail, let's get out of here. Kind of glad we played this because it shows you how the media is so, oh my god, 30 million dollars was stolen while 1 trillion dollars was just taken right before our very eyes by our own government. That's funny, yeah. It's a good bit. And now when I think about it, it was 900 billion and then they wanted to make it the even trill. That's why they had to add 100 billion. I think they had a party.

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Ad-Tech Microservices Critique

The hosts reiterate their commitment to the "Value for Value" funding model, which allows them to discuss controversial topics without fear of demonetization. They critique the modern "microservices architecture" of digital advertising, citing the UnHerd/Grapeshot situation as an example of how complex ad-tech layers enable systemic censorship. They encourage listeners to support the show through time, talent, and treasure.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· advertising· microservices· grapeshot· unherd

2:34:49 You think we can do it, Bill? You think we can get to a trillion? Can we get to a trillion this year? Yeah, watch this. Watch this. And with that... That's a good point. I think it's well taken. I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the malarkey corner. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore! Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curran. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. Oh, the game's a nice guy there. Hey, in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello, trolls. Don't run. No, stop. Wait, wait, wait. Hang on. That's not too bad. 1847. We had a little bit more on the last show, but I think that was, uh, that was a, it was something special happened on that show. Uh, what was it? Something going on. There was a, uh,

2:35:40 There's a lot of extra trolls, but this is good trollage. This is good. This is okay. Yeah, no, it's good. It's good. I like it. And they're listening to noagendastream.com. They're doing that either at trollroom.io or they might be using a modern podcast app. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna promote him again. How about just going on the IRC and doing it direct? Well, you want to listen because on the IRC you can't listen. I mean, there's no link to listen. You need to you want it all in one go which is why you want it on a modern podcast app, you see. That's why you want to know agenda stream dot com which I always say no agenda stream calm troll room dot IO No agenda chat net no agenda ABC calm. I mean too many eggs calm I mean I can keep going. I mean it's it's a bonanza. No agenda shop calm

2:36:28 Seriously, we love having you guys here. We're still watching Cheers. We're still binge-watching Cheers now on season 7. And everyone starts off with, Cheers is filmed before a live studio audience. And I always think to myself, yeah, that's us. Live before no agenda troll audience. And it's a lot. What's the last sitcom that was shown before a live studio? I don't think they even bother anymore. Is there even a sitcom anymore? What's yeah, there is a couple actually hmm well, and there's one night There's one I can recommend no okay, not dead yet That's not new are they still on that not making new episodes are they I think so I'm not so sure I never heard of this show

2:37:18 But anyway, it says, hey, why'd you watch it? It's like unpromoted. I mean, these guys, they don't know what the hell they're doing. It's over. Television is over. It's ending. It's collapsing slowly, then also it'll go very fast. They won't be left with TikTok. Owned by Steve Mnuchin. That'll be the scandal. No, it's obvious to see what's going on. So as we discussed earlier, Unlike the UnHerd guys, we don't have to deal with being blocked by Oracle and what was that other outfit called?

2:37:58 Grape shot and the global this global disinformation index that of course is because we're on podcasting 2.0 which works on all old podcast apps but in general it's coming from the podcast index which means that it was not going to be taken away none of your favorite shows will be taken away from you not if I can help it And we run value for value, which is the only way we could do any of this. We couldn't even say something closely related to Title IX. without being demonetized and possibly deplatformed. And I think we're going to see a lot of deplatforming. Absolutely, you're absolutely correct. Just discussing that topic for just that one second would have gotten us banned for life. Done. Done, you're over with. It's ridiculous. We rely on our producers, and this is not a listening audience, but we rely on our producers who listen, of course.

2:38:55 to supply us with time, talent and treasure in return for us providing the value of this program twice a week. No questions asked, no hoops, no levels, no subscriptions. It's out there for everybody. A percentage, a percentage helps us out. By the way, I do want to say one more thing about that clip and about the banning and the It's also because of the Oracle and Grapeshot and this and that and the other thing. Another example of the plague of microservices architecture. In advertising, absolutely. Absolutely. Why don't you know, in the olden days, you'd have a sales guide, go out and sell an ad, you put the ad on, you place the ad where you wanted it. And then you would sign an affidavit, I played the ad. Remember those affidavits? Yeah, basically.

2:39:48 And you know, and if the guy listened and the ad wasn't played correctly in the right spot, you had to do a make good and that would all be done. It wasn't done by a bunch of subsystems that are linked to this and that's linked to that and this is linked and linked and linked. It sucks. Yeah, so we don't want any part of that. Now you can help us. Yeah, we skipped the middleman. You can help us by donating directly. That is, of course, incredibly appreciated. That's our treasure. But you can also help us with your time and your talent. We have a lot of people doing a lot of different things who've helped us over the years and continue to help us some for longer than a decade, a decade and a half even.

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator and Episode 1652 Artwork

The hosts review the artwork for episode 1652, titled "Ashkenormativity," created by Capitalist Agenda. The piece features a reimagined Morton Salt girl wearing a hijab under a "salting" cloud. They discuss the high volume of art submitted to the No Agenda Art Generator and the recent addition of animated GIFs to the show's chapter markers by producer Dreb Scott.

no agenda art generator· ashkenormativity· morton salt· capitalist agenda· gifs

2:40:29 And from very early on, we've had even before most apps could even handle this, we had artists creating fresh album art for every single show. Now it's kind of a thing, but still the quality is nowhere near what the No Agenda artists do. And you can find it at noagendaartgenerator.com. There's about, I think like 30, how many? Let me see. It has a tally right on the homepage. Let me see how many. How many pieces of art do we have? I think we have, let's get this real quick, it's counting up. We have 32.1 thousand artworks from one and a half thousand artists. That's 1.6 thousand episodes, that's about right. That sounds good. And we want to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1652. We titled that Ashkenormativity.

2:41:26 And John saw this one right away and it was a little small but man, people who saw it and looked closely, they got it and it was just mind-bogglingly good. From Capitalist Agenda, who I don't think has had a win for a bit now. Yeah, he's a pro. Tell us about this art. Yeah, so this is the Morton Salt Girl. It's walking it, you know, when it rains, it pours, is what the moniker usually says because Morton Salt has its dry salt in such a way, and I think they've got something in there to keep it from lumping up. So you have, it rains, it pours, so it's a high moisture, you know, blah, blah, blah. But it's the Morton Salt Girl walking in the rain. But instead of just a regular Morton Salt Girl,

2:42:16 She's wearing a hijab and And she's carrying a salt the Morton salt thing it was just 33 on it and behind her as clouds forming from the salting of the clouds and It was a great piece and it's perfectly done Multi-layered and that's not coming out of some AI machine Know I don't think if it did he's got a real good. He's a good prompting prompt wizard He's a good prompt J PJ But you just you'd get that you just clip the Morton sold girl And then didn't do some work on her and there were things fine and put the clouds in there I can see how this art was done, and he's got the exact right colors the right PMS blue it looks like it and Yeah, it's dynamite piece

2:43:06 See, we looked at some other things, you know, Trump with a gun, no. Matthew Dropko had cloud seeding, no. Nothing really hit it. I did get a good laugh out of me as I Dream of Jeannie. I can't even remember why, but I thought it was funny. I mean, of course, it would never be chosen. A lot of folks. Yeah, we don't choose pieces with people. Typically not. No. Well typically. I can already see there's a bitch better get my money of you looking like Rihanna which is just not gonna get chosen. No. See there was, there were other kind of

2:43:51 Staples, no agenda type staples, some greenhouse stuff. But I mean, nothing really, really hit it like that one from Capitalist Agenda. Thank you so much, Cap. Cap Agenda, everybody. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. And thank all the artists. And if you see an artist posting somewhere, thank that artist. And look at the chapters in your Modern Podcast app. Dreb Scott, he uses all kinds of artwork from the Art Generator. He's also now adding GIFs. So now he's got some animated stuff, which like you look at your phone like what? Oh yeah. I've always thought about that and what's the downside which is it's moving. Yeah, it's interesting. He likes doing that.

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts acknowledge high-value donations from executive and associate executive producers. Notable contributions include $1,000 from Joseph Smolik and $777 from "Captain Ralph," a Boeing 787 pilot who provided technical insight into the aircraft's flight computers. A knighting ceremony is held for "Sir Someone," and several producers receive title changes and peerage transfers.

knighthood· donations· 420· 787 pilot· mercy me· peerage

2:44:37 So thank you, artists. Now let us thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1653. Again, the way this works is anything above $200 is an associate executive producer between $200 and $300. A credit you can keep and use for life and use anywhere where it's appropriate, where credits are recognized, including imdb.com, your business cards. your LinkedIn profile, your social media profile. 300 and above is an executive producer and if anyone ever questions this let us know because we will gladly vouch for you. And we kick it off with, it must be an instant night, I don't know, I don't think we've seen this name before. We had no note from him. Joseph Smolik.

2:45:21 from Kirtland, Ohio and he just goes ahead and dumps $1,000 right there. That's someone who gets it. And he must have received some incredible value for him to return that much and we are grateful. No, take us later. A note later. If he sends a note later, we'll gladly take it. So no note means he gets a double up karma. Thank you very much. You've got karma. So now we have Captain Ralph with also what looks like no note, but there was a lot of notes and he came in with 777. Why is that? Because he's a 787 pilot. I don't know why he didn't donate the 787, but he donated 777. And he's the one who sent... Did we read his note about 787 problems? He says, I'm a captain on the Dreamliner. I can give you some insight.

2:46:15 Let me see if I thought I heard from the tech department is that they're aware of the FCC flight control computer and they're called PFCs on the 787 primary flight computer problem. They do resets within the 21 day interval. Primary flight display. He says PFC. Oh, it's when the airplane detects failure of all three PFCs, it goes into a mode called direct mode and several features are not available anymore. But the plane is fully controllable and safe for landing and flight. Wow. No, he says I love your show. I've been listening for two years and I've been a douchebag but like to fix this with a donation. So we went back and forth quite a bit because he wanted to donate via a bank transfer for political reasons, I'd say. And he managed to get it through and it came in at 777. We'd appreciate that. Oh man, that's great. Captain Ralph.

2:47:08 Captain Ralph, thank you so much. Appreciate that. Yes, we read that note much earlier. I mean, I don't think we've ever read that full note. Sir Bobby checks in with 509 23. and says, four more years! Four more years! From Sir Bobby, the re-doer. And that's it. Thank you, Sir Bobby, we appreciate it. Well, and some nice notes today. Yeah, good ones. Sir Stoner Boner in Kent, Washington, where they all are, 442.15, Adam and John dropping in for my annual 420 executive producer donation, here to thank you for being part of our lives. Cheers to the best podcast

2:47:47 in the universe, sir. Stoner boner. You know, there's only one comment I had about the noagendaabc.com coloring book. On the back it says, it doesn't say the best podcast in the universe, it says the greatest podcast in the universe. Oh, correction is needed. Which I'm okay with. It doesn't, we don't have to change it. I'm surprised, well you know, we would, I, yep, should have been caught. It's a typo. And I think we should do a new run and these will be collector's items. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm thinking like you. We move on to John Owens from St. Pete, Florida. 420-24. Perfect. This was a 420 donation for Saturday. Greetings, Zionist shills. In the morning from... Hey, it's working, John. In the morning from sunny St. Petersburg. First time donating. Well, that means a... You've been de-douched.

2:48:46 First time donating, however, I do listen on the Fountain Podcast app, so I do always stream you shekels. No jingles, no karma, all love. God is good. Thank you. Sir Mark in Greenwood, Indiana, to 35093. And that's the end of our 420 promotion. Two people. Well done. switcheroo donation plus fee from sir mark of the greenwood to his keeper Dame Maria Maria of the Greek kingdoms to celebrate her show day birthday April 21st donation birthday note to my keeper the love of my life and wife Dame Maria of the Greek kingdoms I celebrate your birthday by supporting you as a producer show 16th

2:49:33 53 of the best podcast in the universe grateful to your parents in heaven who brought you into this world and to him who smiled when he finally brought us two together your humble knight and servant sir mark of the Greenwood Warden of the crossroads of love is lit. Oh, they have core 350 93 they of course to the Indiana Indianapolis meetups Sir Steven, Oswego, Illinois, 333.69, swazzle enough, prepping for my move to rural Georgia, my phone number included 69 and a 333, so I obviously need to send the donation for 333.69. And this bumps me up to count, so I'd like to transfer my peerage from Fox River Valley and the Chicago suburbs to Count Steven of Winder.

2:50:20 and the Great Smoky Mountains. Assuming Sir Dr. Sharky would appreciate the support. Still looking for my keeper, so send me some relationship karma to find me a southern belle in my soon-to-be new hometown. Soon-to-be Sir Stephen Count of the Windra and the Great Smoky Mountains. Well you bet sir, we'll all be on the lookout for you. You've got karma. Alan Finstin and Blaine Washington 333.33 and he sent a note in because this was a check. ITM Gents, it's been a long time. This has been a long time coming donation since my buddy Mark hit me in the mouth approximately one to two years ago. I will require a serious de-douching. And we got. You've been de-douched.

2:51:08 Let me also say that I own a bistro, wine bar and event space in fourth corner of the US on the US-Canadia... Canada line on the West Coast. The bistro will be hosting a fourth corner no agenda meetup on 5 5 24 for brunch at the Vault Bistro and Wine Bar 10 a.m. to 2 in good old Blaine, Washington, gateway to the USA. I can see socialism from my deck. I'm including a donation of 33333 also provide the aforementioned de-douching a goat karma as well as jobs karma for the restaurants if either two of you are in the hood please come by for a beverage and a delicious farm-to-table offering from our bistro I will host thank you we'll take you up on that thank you for your courage in the morning Alan

2:51:59 Finston Blaine Washington formerly of Palo Alto when it became unreasonable place to live. What's interesting... Or until it became. Okay, yes. And so he needs a goat karma? Is that what he needs here? Goat, uh, jobs karma. Oh, goat jobs karma. I'm sorry. Hold on a second. Hey goat get over here! This goat is very very very stubborn. Jobs karma with goat. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got Karma. And then we go to SirSomeone, SomeOne, Portland, Oregon, 333.33. I presume that's the name he wants. What do you think?

2:52:43 Well, actually I'm not sure. We'll go with that because that is a name. Well let me read his note here. He wrote in a note 3333. It's official! This donation makes me a knight! Haha! Oh I see so his name is Dane Frost and he will be a knight. The title Sir Someone of the Green Valley. For the roundtable I request... is that Pulk? Pulke. Pulke. What is Pulke? You know, I know the word. I don't know what it is offhand. Okay, I'll look it up. Okay, so it's pool K Okay, popcorn pool K and popcorn and no problem. We can do pool K and popcorn for you Onward with his note. I have a Mexican alcoholic beverage produced from the fermentation of the SAP From meat. It's a mead drink and also with agave mixed in some have mead beverage. It doesn't look good

2:53:41 That's what you say. But it's got low alcohol, 2-7%. Creamy, it looks like milk. And it has electrolytes. I bet. I haven't missed a show since 2016 and I must call on all you producers out there, donate now! Support the pod! Before John and Adam turn into gun salesmen. It's gonna happen. There you go. I am working on my own escape strategy. Exit? I resigned being a UPS delivery man due to a back injury. Now I've invented a product and founded a company to help our couriers, carriers, and all the people moving the world. To the knowage in the nation, check us out. Hook up your local delivery person and give us any feedback or value. Find us at beltshelf.org.

2:54:32 Yes, he sent me one of these belts. Oh, you got one? Yeah. Belt shelf. It's a nice product. He's really, this is a well thought out and you have to trim it yourself. You got to take the head off and then cut it down to size because the thing's a mile long. It's for a big fat guy. Oh, you put this on your belt and then you can kind of, so you hook it up to your belt and then you can hip carry your boxes. Yeah, I think what no what he sent me was a belt. I'm just looking at the website. Yeah, there's other things I guess that's what he sells as important. He didn't get I didn't get one of those well I do it. No, I do have some little clip on things or anything But otherwise, I think it's just it seems like a nice product belt shelf or please give me a hell Yeah, and a patriot karma. We have a heck. Yeah, which I think is what he means. Heck. Yeah You've got

2:55:30 Recipient list for knighthood shortly. The Indy No Agenda Tribal Meetup in Greenwood, Indiana, which seems to be the most successful outside of Local One who do a lot of meetings, but we never hear from them. Switcheroo raffle donation 24568 including certain PayPal fees. From the best monthly no agenda meetup gang in the universe the Indy no agenda tribal meetup Gary Goodman gets the nod from India Greenwood, Indiana. Thank you for your courage. I would like to hear

2:56:09 Shoot you with my noodle gun and an R2D2 karma, please. I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit. I got my pasta glock locked and loaded. You've got a karma. Keith Yates is in Haltom City, Texas. Row of ducks 22 to 22 dot 22 in the morning Adam and John please accept this row of ducks as an appreciation for the hard work you two have put in week in and week out

2:56:44 I've been a listener since Adam's first appearance on JRE Rogan donation you guys help me keep me grounded in this world full of sensationalism and propaganda keep up the hard work and here's to four more years for more years I'd like to request anything from the good old Reverend Al and a JCD spooky donate jingle R-E-S-P-I-C-T Donate! Donate! David Weicker or David Wicker? Wicker. Is it? It's Wicker. Jacksonville, Florida 211.21. And he, this is yet another switcheroo to his red-hot mama, Jewess. Adam will have my note. Jewels! Oh, I said Jewess. You did this the last time.

2:57:46 Yes, a very long note. The L's on this spreadsheet look like eyes. Jules. AC, spot me a penny to get me 211.22. Well, of course I'll do that. Happy belated birthday to John. And then he has Luke 12, 4-10, which is very long, so I will read the last line. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. He says, Fear not, Gibbon Nation! Thank you for your courage, and let's go! He, of course, is Sir by His Grace, and he would just like the Obama jingle, You Might Die, which I have. You might die!

2:58:27 And we've completed the switcheroo for Red Hot Mama Jewels. I think you're up. I just read this. I just read one. Oh, you read the note by... Okay, well then I'll take Dave Sorensen in Winthrop, Washington. And he said, and he came in with 21060 and he says, ITM, this is a late report from the unofficial and under-advertised No Agenda Meetups, meetup recently held in Spokane at the Libertarian Party of Washington State Annual Convention. It's probably one of those that we... Some of these combo things we refuse to list. It was our honor and privilege to host Texas Slim this year. He hung out all weekend and gave us a great presentation on Sunday while his message is hard to hear. It's a wake up call which every man and woman needs to hear from sea to shining sea.

2:59:21 Pictured below you will see myself along with Slim Dame Laura of the Golden Mean and our special douchebag friend Miguel. Hopefully Miguel will soon find time to send you gentlemen five bucks and forever erase the infamy of his shame. No jingles, no karma. And thanks for all your hard work. Best, Dave Sorensen. Oh, Dave. Thank you very much. And yes, BeefInitiative.com for Texas Slim. And he has been hammering away that one of the one of the three largest beef producers in America, JBS, is owned by Brazil. And what happens if we get a tiff with Brazil, which I think we are?

3:00:06 We've always been in one. It's been going back and forth with the visas. Yeah, well, what we don't want is for them to say and rage quit their beef production. Yeah, I don't think they will. I hope not. Sell to the Argentinians, you know more about beef than the Brazilians. We have $200.33 from Sirimlike. He's in God's country, he says. Gents, millennial private investment producer here, too many 33s lately. One in particular that led to this donation. Shortly after looking at my battery life, 33%, then seeing 33 minutes left on my washing machine, I said to myself, I'll donate in a few weeks.

3:00:46 Then I look at the clock and I kid you not, 3.33 PM. Universe telling me it's time to chip in. Nothing new to report on my end. The market predictions from a month or two ago are shaping up well. No Fed cut, Nvidia cratering, but plenty of time for egg to end up on my face. Keep up the great work. Donald Trump. Trump don't trust Donald Trump don't trust China share a secret and anything Elra I'm dyslexic today anything you're falling apart anything Revelle Donald Trump don't trust China China is asshole oh there's no winning we don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret R-E-S-P-I-C-T

3:01:34 And now we have Linda Lou Patkin and we have an error. Oh. Yes. Lakewood, Colorado, $200. And you notice it's not yellow. Jobs Karma for a remarkable resume that gets results. Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. She says this and she's been donating every show. That's imagemakersinc with a K dot com or find Linda Lou Patkin, the Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list. She needs to be added to the birthday list. Linda. Because Earth Day is her birthday. Oh, and that rhymes. And it rhymes. Thank you for your courage, she says, Linda. Now Earth Day, if I'm not mistaken, is Monday. Yes, it's tomorrow. Another missed opportunity. No.

3:02:23 No. How is it a missed opportunity? I mentioned in the newsletter I promoted it. Oh you did. I didn't see that for some reason. You read it, you sent me a note. I did. There's no opportunity missed. It was the same opportunity you had with the 420 to double the two donations we got for that fine promotion. Hey, the having really got people to donate, didn't it? I forgot about that. That really worked. It was almost as spectacular as the eclipse. Like, okay. All right. Anyway, let's put Linda on the birthday list. I've got Linda on the birthday list. Thank you, Linda Lupatkin. Final associate executive. She didn't give us her age though. What is her age? I wonder. Oh, and she needs a jobs card, of course. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. No.

3:03:14 You should not ask her her age. That is indecent to ask a woman her age. I'm guessing 19. Mike Connor is in East Wakefield, New Hampshire. Comes in as the final Associate Executive Producer. $200 and he just says, thanks boys! Love the show. And with that, we want to thank all of the executive and associate executive producers of episode 1653. We appreciate so much what you do to keep everything rolling. It is very much appreciated. Of course, anyone who comes in under $50 is not mentioned. That is always for reasons of anonymity. And we have people on those sustaining donations, which you can make up yourself at noagendadonations.com, for the old-schoolers, dvorak.org, slash NA. And I'm going to have John go through the 50s, but I'd like to say that we have Nathan Cochran from Franklin, Tennessee with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, $123.45. That is another Mercy Me band member.

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Producer Credits, Birthdays, and Pulke Request

The hosts read through the list of producers who donated $50 or more, including several "420" themed donations. They celebrate upcoming birthdays for listeners and formalize the knighthood of Dane Frost as "Sir Someone of the Green Valley." The new knight requested "Pulke" (pulque) and popcorn for his roundtable, leading to a brief discussion about the traditional Mexican agave beverage.

donations· birthdays· pulke· agave· mead· knighthood

3:04:17 Oh is it? What does he play? I believe Nathan plays the bass. So we had Mike Schwo, Schwo, who last show he plays the guitar and Nathan plays the bass guitar. Where's the drummer? He's coming. We used to have the drummer of Weezer that used to donate all the time and he gave up on the show. What happened to Patrick? I don't know. I think he listened to one thing too many about the Zionism or something? Zionist shills want nothing to do with him. Yeah, possibly possibly. Yeah, you put a lot of band people together. You put a big group together. He did he did All right, Maley starts us off in Fremont, California $113 and John Mudge in Denver, Colorado 105 35

3:05:11 I don't know if he's ever donated. He may... Why don't we just give him a random de-douching? You've been de-douched. Sir Pafunk in Highland, Indiana 10535. Mike J in Sugar Land, Texas 10148. A very long note here. He wants a de-douching for sure. You've been de-douched. Sander Glassenberg, $99.99. Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas, $88.88. Eddie Jay in Surfside Beach, South Carolina, $84.48.

3:05:54 He rightly says that we're the best. Of course. Baron Sir Phenom in Appleton, Wisconsin, 8008. Just in front of Kevin McLaughlin. Sir Kevin, actually the Archduke of Luna in Concord, North Carolina with 8008. Matt Boehlke, that's the boob donation, Matt Boehlke in Minnetonka, Minnesota, 75. Putschak in Hannibal, Missouri, 50. Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 69, 96. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 57.

3:06:31 Not sir, not Jake not sir. Jake. He's sir. Not Jake in Thompson, Connecticut Yes, 56 70. He's got a birthday shout out for Ryan Ray Baker in Tarpon Springs, Florida 55 Franklin Monta Rosa and Dodge City, Kansas 54 20 Michael arm most sita Or Armachita, or Armachita, something like that, in Pinedale, Wyoming, 5272. Cassidy East was also 5272 in Oklahoma City. That's a funny little comment there. Sir Morgan in... Yeah. Come on, man, say it. Go podcasting and go Jews!

3:07:24 Very funny. Yeah, sir Morgan in fir crest, Washington Birthday boy 50 62 Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas right down the street and that's 50 Which means we're at the 50s and there's not a lot of them today is very short list Let's read a name and location starting with Andrew goose sick as sir Andrew in Greensboro, North Carolina Matt Ellingworth in Montclair, New Jersey Nicholas Ritter which in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia Alan Bean Baron Allen up there in Beaverton, Oregon. Dragonslayer in St. George. And last on the list, Michael Statum. $50. I want to thank these people and everybody else who donated to this show today for making shows 1653 get off the ground. Yes, and thank you once again to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1653. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

3:08:25 Order! Shut up, Blade! Sssshhut up, Sid! Learn how to become a producer at noagendadonations.com It's your birthday, birthday, on November the 10th. And we kick it right off with Emily Blessing McFadden who says happy birthday to her husband Bruce Blessinger. So it's Emily Blessinger McFadden. Bruce Blessinger who turned 38 yesterday. Actually on the 19th, two days ago. We have Sir Mark, of course, wishing Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdom a happy birthday for her birthday today. Sir Morgan turns 48 on the 23rd. Sir Not Jake, wishing his oldest human resource Ryan Tierney, aka Sir Doherty, a happy birthday for the 24th. And we all say happy birthday to Linda Lupatka, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. She's celebrating tomorrow on Earth Day. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

3:09:25 And as you heard earlier, we have a title change. Sir Stephen now becomes a count and he will be the count of Winder and the Great Smoky Mountains, thank you very much for maintaining your own accounting there, Sir Stephen. Dear Count, we appreciate that and thank you for supporting the NOA Agenda Show, sometimes known as the greatest podcast in the universe, but we prefer to say the best. One night on deck here, so John if you can bring out your, put down the claves. There you go. There you go, beautiful. Is it claves or claves? Is it claves or claves?

3:10:07 I don't know. Claves. I think it's called those. Cabs. Dane Frost, step on up. You sir have supported the Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and I'm very proud to pronounce the K-D as Sir Someone. For you we have the requisite hookers and blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay by your request. Paul If that doesn't float your boat, we got some harlots and howl doll, we got some redheads and rives, beers and blunts. We got some cowgirls and coffin barners, vodka vanilla bong, hits of bourbon, sparkling cider, nesquik, ginger ale and gerbils. We got breast milk with sugar and pablum, and of course the mutton and mead!

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Global Meetup Reports and Upcoming Events

Meetup reports are shared from Aurora, Illinois; Seoul, South Korea; and a large gathering in London. The hosts promote upcoming meetups in Houston, North Georgia, and Denver. Adam Curry announces plans to consolidate several Dutch meetups into a single event at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam on June 15th to coincide with his travel schedule.

meetups· seoul· london· amsterdam· aurora· houston

3:10:46 Head yourself over to noagenderings.com, go take a look at those beautiful No Agenda night rings. We have them for dames, for knights, and just send us your... what we need is your ring size, which there's a little handy ring sizing guide there, noagenderings.com, send that to us along with the address, you'll get your handsome... No Agenda Signet Night Ring with some wax to seal all your important correspondence. And as always, it includes a certificate of authenticity. As discussed at the top of this episode, it's very important for you to go to meetups. This is where you can get all, get it all out of your system so your amygdala doesn't implode. It's very important. And you will find connection which offers instant protection. Please consider going to a NOAA agenda meetup. We got a couple of meetup reports here. Aurora, Illinois, the Real Fox Valley meetup was another success.

3:11:44 I don't know who wrote this from Aurora, Illinois. A lot of new faces today. Francisco Scaramanga was there. How about that? Total 10 people, five were first timers. Some of our regulars couldn't make it, but it was still very fun. We had a good group here in the Chi-Rac area. Adam, when Tina wants to come back to her homeland, we can facilitate. Okay, Aurora is the second biggest city in Illinois. Four more years, ITM, and thank you for your courage. And then we have, as requested and received, a meetup report from the Seoul, Korea meetup. Annyeonghaseyo! This is Jaap here reporting for a boots on the ground report in downtown Seoul. The Koreans need a little bit more of a hit in the mouth. A decent hit in the mouth. Annyeonghaseyo!

3:12:32 This is Ria in Korea and I'm enjoying a night here with my wonderful hubby and meeting the host, Jab, wonderful host. Well, thank you, Adam and John, for keeping me sane and entertained. Hey, yo, hearts, hearts. Hey, this is Nate in Korea, giving you words out in the morning to you. Adios, mojos! I like that. I like the Korean produce there. Hearts, hearts. It's like one of those TikTok videos. Hearts, hearts, douchebag, douchebag. Lick, lick, lick, heart, heart. Douchebag, douchebag. Hearts, hearts, lick, lick, lick, douchebag, douchebag. Wow, we got one from Groof. We had that big London meetup and they came in with a highly overproduced meetup report. Here it is.

3:13:18 ITM, thank you for your co-motion. Thanks Peter Morrison for smacking me in the mouth. ITM, it's Quiff the Cock here where I'm studying the mirror for signs of vasectomy face. I seem to be maybe serving something here, enjoying the company of some great people in London. Thank you very much. Also John, it's Na-Nai-Mo, not Na-Na-Nay-Mo, it's Na-Nai-Mo. Thank you. I am Nasser and I'm probably not a spook. In the morning, John and Adam. Thank you for your courage. I'm very happy to be here. Out! John and Adam, we've had a great crack this evening. What's the crack with yous? I've had a great crack. I've got a crack. My crack. Everyone else's crack. It's been a crack. I'm Emma. I lived in India and I didn't get raped. Everyone needs a beat up. Fantastic!

3:14:15 You know, Logan 5 in the troll room correctly says, what other podcast has an international following that drinks like fish, I should add. Yes, it's beautiful. And before we continue with, actually, we only have a couple of meetups to promote. Special attention requested from Sir Economic Hitman for the Northwest Houston meetup, which will be at 10th Northwest Houston. No, it's the 10th Northwest Houston at the Wakefield Crow Bar. Saturday, April 27th. He says only three RSVPs so far, despite promoting heavily on no authority dot social. Yeah, that's because everybody there is too busy trolling comic strip blogger. They're not looking at your meetup promotion. On Thursday, on the 25th, we have the North Georgia monthly one year anniversary meetup. Six o'clock organizer Bob Butler

3:15:12 And then we have also on Thursday the St. Macedonius Feast Day Denver Meetup 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Coming up Castorville, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Roadhouse Hill, New South Wales in the Meetup Report. Houston, Columbus, Ohio, Toronto, Torrance, California, Arlington, Virginia, Blaine, Washington, Leiden, the Netherlands, Charleston, South Carolina, Richmond, Virginia, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Fargo, North Dakota, Scottsdale, Arizona, Moseley, Virginia. And June 15th... So I think there was already a meetup planned in Amsterdam. I think we are going to move all of this to the Schiphol meetup, which will be done at... One of our producer has an office there in a studio and I believe we're gonna try and move everybody over there. Apologies. That's in Amsterdam? It is in Amsterdam, but that's not the one. There was a different one already pre-organized. So hopefully we can have everything consolidate because I'll be flying in on the 15th.

3:16:12 And that'll be perfect because I always stay at the airport hotel. Wisely. Wisely, so I can just walk on over. That's your No Agenda Meetups. They are phenomenal. They're great to be a part of. You will never regret this. Please go to one. You can look them all up and find this list at noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

Good News Segment and Podcast Outro

The "Good News" segment features a story about a calf living in a gun shop as a local celebrity. The show concludes with a series of outtakes and a "Zionist Oppressor" jingle. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off with their traditional "Adios Mofos" and "Ahooy" before playing the end-of-show music mix featuring clips of President Biden.

good news· cow· gun shop· joe biden· outtakes· end of show mix

3:16:56 Okay, I have way too many, way too many. I have none because I deferred last time to your old ones from last show because you had three then and one or two of them were killers so I'm just going to give it to you. Find a good one. Alright, you help me choose. Blah blah blah blah blah. Another one? Goodbye Zionist oppressor! We have this one? More beef jerky for us! No, and this is a possible one. Cannibals ate him. So I think it's between cannibals ate him and... Goodbye Zionist oppressor! You tell me, which one do you like?

3:17:40 I like the Zionist oppressor. That's pretty good. Let's use that. I think it's pretty funny. All right, we'll use that one. Good news. John has a good news segment. Highly debated. Hot topic. Everyone's like, I hate it. I love it. I love it. It's great. I don't like it. Oh my God. Nobody really hates it. Oh yeah, there's plenty of people. Bring back the second half of show! Oh, those guys. You'd block them. Yeah. I actually have two short ones. Oh, okay. That we could use both. But I'm gonna skip the Hargaday one and I'm going to go with the one I like this one better. This is the cow in the gun shop. He's the ambassador of goodwill around here, I guess. Didn't plan on having a cow.

3:18:31 But now we have a cow, so what do you do with a cow? You treat it like a dog and you bring it to work. People are definitely surprised. I think the most I hear is, oh, it's a goat or a moose or a deer. They're not used to seeing a cow, especially in a gun shop. The store owner says the cow has already passed its first employee evaluation with flying colors. You can see why. Several customers have already asked how much the farm animal costs. thinking it's for sale. That baby is priceless and nobody is allowed to buy the little cow. Grazing on the beard. I wonder how big that cow is gonna get. Yeah, that and then what do you do at that point? This may have a store cat or dog. The owner of A&G shooting decided to recruit a cow for the job. This little guy quickly became a local celebrity bringing in more customers to the store. Oh, a cow. A cow in the gun shop.

3:19:19 It's actually a small calf, but it's acting like a dog. It's timely because they got to kill that red heifer before the 22nd. So it's very timely. A very moving story. Oh, you're utterly ridiculous. Oh, hey now! There it is. There it is, everybody. We are out of control and we're out of time. which, boy, the long show's recently. Which means we do have some end of show mixes. We got some classics, a brand new one from Professor Jay Jones. We got some Leo Laporte, Leo Lapuque, I'm sorry. We got some Eric Colburn. And coming up next on noagendastream.com, your modern podcast app or trollroom.io, Before the Scheme's live,

3:20:09 Boobury, who is the prince of Value for Value podcasting 2.0 music, will be joined by Perry, the owner of Taylor Sound, and they'll be reading out some Value for Value donations from the 12 Rods Tour Eclipse stream. It's all live, it's all happening here. That's what we're all about. No agenda. We're big, we're large, we're international. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Right here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday. Remember us at noagendadonations.com, dvorak.org, slash N-A. Until then, adios mofos, ahooy, ahooy, and goodnight.

3:20:54 And such. Hello people of Maui. Where's Magnum? I don't want to

3:21:35 Compare difficulties, but I will. We have a little sense, Jill and I, what it's like to lose a home. Years ago, lightning struck at home while I was watching Hazel. And hit the wire and came up underneath our home. To make a long story short, burning down the house. I almost lost my 67 Corvette, all my top secret documents, and my cat. They're all kidding aside. I think I farted and pooped in my pants. Where's my cocaine? What year is this again? I didn't watch last night's Republican debate as it conflicted with my watching of Hazel. Liberal cities will burn to the ground. What the hell? Now you guys are getting a shaft in here. You can actually get shot and killed.

3:22:40 We're doing a little more than just a peaceful protest. Liberal cities will burn to the ground, he said. And he kept saying it. It's going to happen. That's what's going to happen. The liberal cities will burn to the ground if Trump wins. Well, is that a bad thing? What? Well, it's a problem. Yeah, you know, I don't want any city to burn. I don't want any kind of violence. Portland's already burning to the ground. We're seeing these Black Lives Matter protests going into suburban areas. A protest comes down the street en masse. That scares people. Liberal cities will burn to the ground, he said. And he kept saying it. It's going to happen. That's what's going to happen. The liberal cities will burn to the ground if Trump wins. The whole thing is sketchy. I'd like to start listing it as conspiracy theories at this point.

3:23:46 That's disturbing. Wow. Okay, you're right. You're right. You're dead on. You nailed it. I find it annoying. People are waking up to the fact that they're constantly being lied to. First law of holes. Do you know what media personnel the American public trusts most? Catherine Maher, one shared truth is our baseline. The conversation. The World Bank and Access Now. Spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia. Money laundering through HSBC. Exactly the time she was there. This is not a normal career path for anybody. Ted Foundation Inc. Podcasting, a medium of trust. Oh yeah, I listen to NPR.

3:24:41 And they get all their woke bullcrap from NPR. Americans trust podcasters more than any other media personalities. All of these things are just abusing their audience. Have very, very cozy relationships with their national security counterparts. They've gone nuts. Yeah, oh yeah, I listen to NPR. The single biggest impediment to her work is the First Amendment. You can't handle the truth! People are waking up to the fact that they're constantly being lied to. There was New York Times reporters lied about the aluminum tubes. What were they thinking? They've gone nuts. The single biggest impediment to her work is the First Amendment.

3:25:28 The best podcast in the universe! Mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Goodbye, Zionist oppressor!