King for a Day

00:00 Yeah, ring finger. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. This is your award-winning Game of Nation media assassination episode 1632. This is no agenda. Commission to defeat Dr. Dan, broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. Dan from Northern Silicon Valley, where we don't want to call them migrants anymore. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Clackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! You know this, they're asylum seekers. That's the official name? Actually, the official name... Oh, but maybe in California? No, no, this is Denver. We know Denver leads the way for everything. I was gonna say California Light, please. Denver. California Heavy. We got California Heavy, everybody. It's California Heavy, we're coming in light. Yes.

01:00 Apparently the term migrant is not good. So we're going to change it to, even though it should be illegal immigrant or illegal alien, which you haven't heard of for a while. Illegal alien was what it was first. That was the good stuff. That was the good stuff. Yeah, back in the day. We're going to change it to new immigrant. Oh. Oh, it's the newcomers. Why don't we just call them that? The newcomers. Yeah. Like some creepy science fiction movie. Wasn't that V? Or the visitors? The visitors? Maybe it was V. Newcomers. Newcomers and the visitors. Make room. Make room for the newcomers. Make room. Put the newcomers here. You out.

01:51 Isn't this what they claim that the Israelis did to the Palestinians? Take the newcomers and then push the other ones out? Isn't that what they've been doing here with these guys? I don't see the difference if they're gonna use that analogy. Well, if that's where you want to start today, then I think we should go straight to... You never said that! I think we should go straight to... Good segue though, I really appreciate the professionalism. Well, let's go straight to MSNBC, which is Denver heavy, and Chris Hayes' show, Talking to AOC, our actress-cum-House Representative for New York. And she lays it out very clear and simple what this is really about.

02:43 And you tweeted this because I've been maddened by the discussion of immigrants, which basically I feel like the entire discussion is they're coming to take your stuff. There's 27 slices of pizza in America and everyone... I'm gonna be interrupted. You're all gonna... okay. I just... advance warning. Who used the word... whoever uses the word maddened... I'm maddened by this. Look at the guy. I'm angered. I've heard people say angered. It irks me, that's what I say. Just look at Chris Hayes. But I'm maddened. He's pretentious. Okay, I'll give that one to you. But you know, he's with AOC. So it kind of, I'm maddened, aren't you, AOC? I'm maddened by this, aren't you, Daphne?

03:33 And you tweeted this because I've been maddened by the discussion of immigrants, which basically I feel like... I think this is a very good observation. He's going mad. That's what it is. I'm maddened. He's not angry. He's going mad. I'm going mad! The entire discussion is, they're coming to take your stuff. There's like only seven slices of pizza in America and everyone that comes is going to take one of those. Hold on a second. How many slices are there in a pizza? Why? It wouldn't be seven, that's for sure. I've never seen a seven slice pizza. You can't do it. No, it makes no sense. It's going to be eight slices. It could be two slices. Yes, it could be. It could be four slices. I mean, you could, but it's always going to be multiples of two.

04:16 Alright, now we are in Mitanoka. Let's keep going here. They're coming to take your stuff. There's like only seven slices of pizza in America and everyone that comes is going to take one of those slices and you're not going to have any. And the Congressional Budget Office basically said today, look, we're readjusting our projection of GDP. You've got me on a roll here. Does the Congressional Budget Office literally say, look, is that what they say? Is that how they start their reports? He claims look gross. up by 7 trillion and also we're reviewing the US government money to reduce the deficit by a trillion because of immigration, higher net immigration and you tweeted that being like, guys, we're not talking at all- We're giving him free money. Oh wait for, oh you wait for, wait for the next clip. You started this all about the net.

05:05 positives immigrants bring to this country. Alright, net positives. Hit it AOC. Absolutely. It is actually completely nonsensical that we do not talk about the enormous blessing, economic blessing, that immigrants and immigration represents to the United States of America. And a lot of folks sometimes think that this is just a certain kind of immigrant, right? Like college educated or technical visas. All immigrants that we're seeing, this is the CBO estimate, immigration writ large is yielding enormous economic benefits to the United States. Oh, oh, oh, oh, wait a minute.

05:44 I'm feeling slavery coming on. And let's bring this out even finer. If you are a caregiver, if you are a baby boomer, if you are someone that cares for... John, John, if you're a baby boomer, this is for you. This is information. For someone who... Yeah, I'm gonna need an immigrant. A nurse. A nurse. to wipe your butt. You're going to take care of me and rob me. We currently do not have the economic or social structural capacity to take care of our seniors and we will increasingly not have that if we quote-unquote lock up our border and shut down immigration. In fact, the thing that has distinguished US economic performance from other countries like Japan or other

06:30 of economic stagnation when they submit themselves to this xenophobic kind of border panic narrative that Fox News, frankly, seeks to peddle and instill in so many people. Oh, Fox News. By the way, does she account for the fact that these stagnant countries like, oh, let's say Japan just bought U.S. steel out from under us?

07:09 I guess that doesn't matter. All right. So before I get to my next clip, let's just remind ourselves what the former New York banker said. Adam, we don't have to be worried about China. They are declining in population. As long as we keep adding people, we win. And now who do we think the we is? I've said it. I'll say it again. I've said it before. If China is in such a bad state because of the declining population, how come about 40 percent of the youth of China can't get work? Well, they're sitting there waiting for jobs. Yeah, well aren't you saying the same thing? No, the argument is that because China's declining population that means that they're going to be overworked to pay for the benefits for the older. No, no, no, it's about printing money. The more people we have, the more money we get to print for them through all kinds of great plans and ultimately going to universal basic income. This is the plan.

08:12 Now, in the United States, HSBC just came out with global research. Actually, this is for all developed economies. They predict the population of all developed economies will be cut in half by 2100. And it notes a very sharp decline starting in 2021. I wonder what happened. Less babies made, I'm not quite sure. We should be having a baby boom right now. After all the lockdowns. We're having sudden deaths instead. It's exactly the opposite. Now, to back up what AOC says, let's go to Chairman of the Federal Reserve, our central bank money printer guy on 60 Minutes. Now remember, he doesn't set policy,

08:59 but he's really happy with it. What are the important factors that cause the labor market to stabilize? This comes on the heels of an unbelievably good jobs report, like twice as much as expected, which I don't know how that happened. They fudged the numbers, it's real easy. Okay, so they fudged... I think it's government jobs, I think it's maybe some people taking third jobs, But listen to what Powell says. It's truly unbelievable. What are the important factors that caused the labor market to stabilize? One was just the return of workers. Several million people were just gone from the labor force for whatever reason. Many of them didn't want to go back to their old jobs because of COVID or because they just didn't want to be. They had moved on with their lives. So, so, you know, like, I'm not going to

08:12 Now, in the United States, HSBC just came out with global research. Actually, this is for all developed economies. They predict the population of all developed economies will be cut in half by 2100. And it notes a very sharp decline starting in 2021. I wonder what happened. Less babies made, I'm not quite sure. We should be having a baby boom right now. After all the lockdowns. We're having sudden deaths instead. It's exactly the opposite. Now, to back up what AOC says, let's go to Chairman of the Federal Reserve, our central bank money printer guy on 60 Minutes. Now remember, he doesn't set policy,

08:59 but he's really happy with it. What are the important factors that cause the labor market to stabilize? This comes on the heels of an unbelievably good jobs report, like twice as much as expected, which I don't know how that happened. They fudged the numbers, it's real easy. Okay, so they fudged... I think it's government jobs, I think it's maybe some people taking third jobs, But listen to what Powell says. It's truly unbelievable. What are the important factors that caused the labor market to stabilize? One was just the return of workers. Several million people were just gone from the labor force for whatever reason. Many of them didn't want to go back to their old jobs because of COVID or because they just didn't want to be. They had moved on with their lives. So, so, you know, like, I'm not going to

09:53 I'm not going to work. I'm just moving on with my life here. I'm not going to work anymore. I'm just moving on. Moving on with my life. Yeah, this is so great. people to come right back into the workforce in 2022. They mostly didn't. And then we thought, well, maybe that's not going to happen. And then it happened in 2023. We had a combination of rising labor force participation in prime-age workers. And we also had a, with that, we had a resumption of immigration. So there was really no immigration net in or very little during the pandemic. But it kind of makes me wonder, like, you know, if we had no net immigration during the pandemic, maybe they have to catch up and maybe that's what we're seeing. Like open them as wide as possible, boys. We need to get them in. In 2023, we saw immigration move back up to the levels that would have been normal before the pandemic. And those two things together

10:49 made a real difference in labor supply. So it's really a supply story. That's the main thing I would point to. Why was immigration important? Because immigrants come in and they tend to work at a rate that is at or above that for non-immigrants. Let me translate what he just said. They're better than you. They tend to work, of course, in the jobs that AOC wants them to be in. And they work at about or a little bit above, they do it a little bit better than you would wipe in John's butt. Immigration important. Because immigrants come in and they tend to work at a rate that is at or above that for non-immigrants. Immigrants who come to the country tend to be in the workforce at a slightly higher level than Americans do, but that's largely because of the age... Hold on a second. Why doesn't he just say it?

11:40 They work cheaper. It's coming, it's coming. ...level than Americans do, but that's largely because of the age difference. They tend to skew younger. Why is immigration so important to the economy? First of all, immigration policy is not the Fed's job. We don't say immigration policy, we don't comment on it. I will say over time though, the U.S. economy has benefited from immigration and frankly just in the last year, A big part of the story of the labor market coming back into better balance is immigration returning to levels that were more typical of the pre-pandemic era. The country needed the workers. It did. Yeah, we just needed the workers. You're not good enough. You're too old, you're too expensive, and you're not, you know, they do just a little bit better.

12:27 That's the message. There it is. Better equals cheaper. Yeah, oh yeah, of course. So we had, man, no sooner had I marked up... Hold on a second. I'm sticking with this. Here's another thing. So, Job, I had these clips from the last show. In fact, I want you to play this clip. This is just like irksome to listen to. Let me see if I can find it. Hold on one second. It's Biden's, look for Biden. It's not on that one either. The show comes to a screeching halt. Yeah, well I'm sorry but Biden did the thing is is Biden's going on okay I'll just reiterate it. Biden's going on and on about how great he is at labor unions, that UAW approved him because he's pro-labor. I have it, I have it, I have your clip. United Auto Workers President Sean Fain last week did- That one?

13:23 Yep. Delivered a fiery speech in Washington to endorse Biden. He told Face the Nation Sunday why he chose Biden over Trump. President Biden has always bet on the American worker and stood with the American worker and he proved that during this presidency. Yeah, the Chinese worker and the Venezuelan worker. Yeah, the American worker. So let's bring more immigrants in to take jobs away from who? The American worker. How does this make sense that the UAW guy should be ashamed of himself? I was a twice member of the United Auto Workers on withdrawal and I would, it's shameful how they went from a very good union to a guy like, just a corrupt classic old-fashioned union.

14:06 Right, so all we're seeing here, and it's really interesting because on the last show we talked about how the Republicans are all, ah, the borders open, this is no good, you know, you gotta, the Democrats suck, Biden sucks, borders open, border, border, border, border, not saying it's not true. And the Democrats like war, war, war, Iran, we gotta get some war. Now they're going into each other's camp and we've got We've got Biden blaming Trump, the whole media is of course blaming Trump for this. This is all Trump's fault. Why is it Trump's fault? Because Trump doesn't want the Republicans to fix anything. All indications are this bill won't even move forward to the Senate floor. Why? Why? A simple reason. Donald Trump.

14:54 Because Donald Trump thinks it's bad for him politically. He'd rather weaponize this issue than actually solve it. Trump and the Magyar Republicans said no. Because they're afraid of Donald Trump. Afraid of Donald Trump. The Republicans have to decide, who do they serve? Donald Trump and the American people every day between now and November the American people are going to know That the only reason the border is not secure is Donald Trump and his Republican friends folks We've got to move past this toxic politics all right, so before you continue it did go to the Senate floor I have all this

15:31 Okay, but I wanted to step back a second and say no sooner had I marked up the 320 pages of HR 815 Which was the house version of the of the Senate bill then they blew this all oh, that's not true. Mm-hmm Okay, these the Senate bill is separate. The house bill is separate They were not how it wasn't a version of the Senate bill. Okay, it's not it was its own bill its own bill. Oh Which by the way was, you know how this is so cool how they do this. So they put this bill in HR 15, I'll get to the Senate bill in a second. And HR 15 is meant to amend title 38 United States code to make certain improvements relating to the eligibility of veterans to receive reimbursement for emergency treatment furnished through the veterans community care program and for other purposes. So they literally take something that

16:26 was a bill that was, I guess, on the floor and they just take all of that out and then turn it into the Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2024. Oh my God. This thing was, this was a military bill. I mean, it's for submarine bases. I mean, we're literally, you know, part of the border part was we need $2 billion to give to countries so when we send people back, they can repatriate them. Can you imagine how insane that is? So we're sending people back that who came in illegally, but we're going to give all these countries $2 billion to catch them so they don't run into trouble. I mean, we're giving it to Venezuela?

17:12 And this whole, I marked it up for anyone who wants to take a look at it. It's useless now of course, but I kind of knew that was going to happen. So here's the bipartisan bill that died. The bipartisan bill to strengthen the border and provide aid for Ukraine and Israel died in the Senate Wednesday. Senate Republicans have looked more and more like their House counterparts. and transform themselves into the chaos caucus. Senators on both sides of the aisle spent more than four months negotiating the details. We knew from the beginning it's not going to be perfect, but we also knew the status quo was untenable. Despite Republican leadership backing the compromise, many of the rank and file were dead set against it. I think a

17:55 The Republican leader should actually lead this conference and should advance the priorities of Republicans. The final straw came when former President Donald Trump slammed the efforts. It turns out border security is not actually a risk to our national security. It's just a talking point for the election. Even if the bill had passed in the Senate, Republicans in the lower chamber of Congress declared it dead on the rival in the House. Republicans are not passing the bill to address the border, but they're still planning to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas over his handling of the immigration issue. The yeas are 214 and the nays are 216. What? The resolution is not adopted.

18:37 Even though they failed to impeach him on the first vote Tuesday night. Mayorkas needs to be held accountable. The Biden administration needs to be held accountable and we will pass those articles of impeachment. Republicans fell one vote short Tuesday night, but they expect to try again when Louisiana Congressman Steve Scalise is healthy enough to return to work. Alright, so this is all show. Stay away from it. There's nothing to see here. The fun stuff is in the cities with the black mayors. This is where it gets great. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. Mr. Mayor, when are you going to go to the border and check it out? We got trouble here, Mr. Mayor. We got people sleeping everywhere in our city. We got migrants everywhere and you're giving them money. Mr. Mayor, what are you going to do? When are you going to go to the border and check it out and get something done? I have children who attend schools who have soccer games, y'all. You know, you all are asking me as if I'm not a parent in this city.

19:31 I get it, I'm mayor, I get it. But you're asking me to give you a date and I have to court. Do you understand that you have not had a mayor like me? I get that. I have a wife, I have children, they have schedules. And plus, we still have public safety that we have to address. We still have the unhoused that we have to address. I still have a budget that I have to address. And I'm doing all of that with a black wife raising three black children on the west side of the city of Chicago. I am going to the border as soon as possible. Hey, hold on a second. I'm black, give me a break. What was that? I mean, I'm sorry, this is just crazy. Hey, I like the beginning where he says, I know you're not used to a mayor with kids, Larry Lightfoot, but then he rolls into, hey, you know, I got schedules. I'm raising three black children. I got a black wife. I have things to do. Yeah, and then Mayor Adams in New York, he's like, people don't like me. You know why they don't like me? Because I'm black.

20:28 Have you ever seen this much chocolate lead in the city of New York? And then go down the line. Look who's here. This is representative of the city. That's why people are hating on me. You trying to figure out why they're hating on me? They're hating on me because those are, how many of you go to church? Here we go. Ma'am, this is a Matthew 21 and 12 moment. Jesus walked in the temple, he saw them doing wrong in the temple, he did what? He turned the table over. I went to city hall and turned the table over. All right, black Jesus, everybody. There it is, black Jesus.

21:10 He overturned the tax tables apparently in City Hall. This is very weak, mayors. This is very, very weak. But they're under pressure. They're under pressure. They can't say anything about, because again, we don't need comprehensive immigration reform. We've kind of lost the whole idea that we don't even need it. We can just change. It's like, no, stop them. No. It's like, this is policy, not law. The law is clear. Well, I want to go back to your Biden clip where he blames Trump. It's non-stop. This is the thing. So I looked into the Senate bill that did go to the floor and did get voted down 50 to 49. Do you know who voted no? Chuck Schumer. His own bill.

20:28 Have you ever seen this much chocolate lead in the city of New York? And then go down the line. Look who's here. This is representative of the city. That's why people are hating on me. You trying to figure out why they're hating on me? They're hating on me because those are, how many of you go to church? Here we go. Ma'am, this is a Matthew 21 and 12 moment. Jesus walked in the temple, he saw them doing wrong in the temple, he did what? He turned the table over. I went to city hall and turned the table over. All right, black Jesus, everybody. There it is, black Jesus.

21:10 He overturned the tax tables apparently in City Hall. This is very weak, mayors. This is very, very weak. But they're under pressure. They're under pressure. They can't say anything about, because again, we don't need comprehensive immigration reform. We've kind of lost the whole idea that we don't even need it. We can just change. It's like, no, stop them. No. It's like, this is policy, not law. The law is clear. Well, I want to go back to your Biden clip where he blames Trump. It's non-stop. This is the thing. So I looked into the Senate bill that did go to the floor and did get voted down 50 to 49. Do you know who voted no? Chuck Schumer. His own bill.

22:05 Yeah, he voted no on his own bill, but what really happened is it would have passed, but the problem was for Schumer is that a bunch of the typical kind of Dem Republicans voted yes on it. That includes Lankford of Oklahoma, Susan Collins of Maine, Murkowski, and Mitt Romney. They all voted yes. So it would have passed. It wouldn't have passed with 60 votes, but it would have passed, and he wouldn't have had the the Trump, Trump, Trump stuff, you wouldn't have Biden's talking points. So what Schumer did is he voted no and then got four of his lackeys to also vote no for no apparent reason. That includes Elizabeth Warren voted no. Markey Padilla of California, who's the substitute for Feinstein, he has to do what he's told. So he was told to vote no. So he did. And Menendez of New Jersey

22:57 who's under indictment, who has to do what Schumer tells him to, so he could twist it so it came out 50 to 49 exactly because he had to account for all these Republicans who voted for the bill. So the thing was a scam used as a publicity stunt and nobody knows that Schumer voted no. Well, we couldn't we can't report on that. There's not one report you can come up with where it mentions that Schumer voted against his own bill. No, of course not. Of course not. And Governor Abbott, the globalist, just continues to abuse Eagle Pass, Texas as his theater du jour. Governor Greg Abbott will meet with state representatives in Eagle Pass all to discuss border security. This all comes in response to President Biden's border policies

23:46 which Abbott of course disagrees with. Prior to the press conference, the governor and Texas representatives will receive a briefing on Operation Lone Star's mission to secure the border. That meeting will take place at Shelby Park, which was once a busy area for illegal crossings by migrants and where the state's AG rejected a request from the Biden administration to grant federal immigration officials full access to that park. All right, now I need some help from you. I need help understanding the thinking behind the latest episode of NBC's Chicago Med. Which I would say most of these programs are propaganda. You've played so many clips from these types. Who produces this? Who produces Chicago Med? Is it another? That's done by Dick Wolf. So it's a Dick Wolf production. Yeah. So explain to me now how he gets into these storylines where we have Mr. Martin gets hit by a car wreck

24:47 And he wants to press charges because the man that hit him is probably here illegally. Officer, are you here to take my statement? Excuse me? I want to press charges on that guy right over there. I overheard someone say that he might be here illegally. I need to make sure that doesn't affect my insurance. I'll have someone come speak to you, Mr... Martin. Wade Martin. Okay. Give me a minute. Thank you. All right, so now we're going to go to the hospital because of course we've got the guy's wife in the hospital and... Well, wouldn't you know it? Do you have a moment? Yeah. Seems I'm in a bit of a pickle. How so? I'm officially here as Mr. Obrador's emergency contact. What? He's being sheltered in the lobby of our district. And he's not the only one. They set up camp about a week ago. That's why he has to call the police. And it's not just us. There are migrants in almost every district of the city. And the buses keep coming up from the border almost every day.

25:37 They're fleeing a pretty horrific situation out of Venezuela. Venezuela, Venezuela. Alright, so now Mr. Martin is waiting for his wife to have an MRI, but no! Dr. Marcel, here. It's been over an hour and my wife hasn't gotten an MRI yet. I assure you we have not forgotten Dr. Ahmad said she'd make it a priority, but I haven't seen a trace of her as soon as an MRI frees up Mr. Martin. I promise she's next in queue. Yeah. Yeah next in queue What doctor says that next in none next in queue? No because the immigrants the illegal aliens go first. Why are you moving my wife sir? Please is just temporary. Hey, mr. Martin. I

26:14 Okay, what's going on? Did you two authorize this? Mr. Martin, my apologies. It appears we're momentarily over- You think I don't see what's going on, but you're giving all the rooms to them. Hold on now. Same thing happened at my kid's school. They commandeered her gym for a shelter. Look, wait. I assure you we have enough resources to take care of everyone. No, we don't. People keep saying that, but we just don't, okay? The whole volleyball season got canceled and my daughter needed that for a scholarship. And now, my wife. She's obviously not receiving your full attention. How come nobody's looking out for us? I understand that this is an inconvenience, but we do need to free up this room. Okay, go ahead. No, get away from her! Wait. Please. Stop handling me! No, no!

26:49 I'm very confused about the messaging here. Is the messaging like, don't be a douche? Is the messaging, if you are a douche, you're gonna get apprehended and go to jail? Is the message we're being overrun? I don't understand the message. Here's the last clip. Any updates? I wish I could say this was an isolated incident, but from what I'm hearing around town, it seems like the welcome wagon's broken down. Rosado's offering to take Mr. Martin into custody if we feel the staff's safety is threatened. What is the messaging?

27:36 Well the messaging, I mean if you look at it just overtly, if you make a fuss you're gonna get... Yeah, you're gonna get detained. You're gonna get yourself in trouble. Detained, yes, yes. But at the same time it's also saying, you know, who watches this? Nobody. It has ratings. Yeah, it does. It's actually gets watched. Yeah, it gets watched quite a bit. People, there's three of them. There's a Chicago PD, Chicago Mad and Chicago Fire. And it's a trio of shows that are interlaced. It's a troika. A troika of shows. And they tend to be,

28:16 There are very, it's a very strange bunch of shows I have to say. So you don't have an analysis of why they're doing this? I mean I don't have one. I don't watch this. Well you don't have to watch it to know that something's up with that message. Yeah, especially with the she's next in queue really. Yeah, no, I would just say she's next in line. That's what people say. The normal person says that she's next in line, not she's next in queue. Especially in Chicago. That could be code. In Chicago. To let you know. Yeah. In Chicago, hey, she's next in line. She's next in queue. She's next in queue. And then 60 Minutes did a piece on the Chinese aliens

29:04 visitors, newcomers, the Chinese newcomers. With Chiayi Cho. With Chiayi Cho. It was beautiful art. Which was also confusing to me because these were not military-aged men. These are women primarily. And the women came in, you know, clean clothes, clean wraps, clean shoes. A couple of them had little roller bags. Just after sunrise, we saw the first group of migrants make their way from Mexico through a gap between the 30-foot steel border fence and rocks. ducking under a bit of razor wire and into the United States. We were surprised to see the number of people coming through from China, nearly 7,000 miles away. Cameras and at one point this armed border patrol agent standing 25 feet away did not deter them.

29:53 30 minutes later, a smugglers SUV raced along the border fence and dropped another group at the same spot. And 30 minutes after that, another group. Over four days, we witnessed nearly 600 migrants, adults and children, pass through this hole and onto U.S. soil unchecked. The Gap is a global destination, littered with travel documents from around the world. But we noticed middle class migrants from China arriving with rolling bags. They told us they took flights all the way to Mexico. Some flew from China to Ecuador because it doesn't require a visa for Chinese nationals, then took flights to Tijuana, Mexico.

30:36 The fingerprints told us they connected with smugglers or what they call snakeheads in Tijuana. And they each paid them about $400 for the hour-long drive that ended here at the Gap. Last year, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported 37,000 Chinese citizens were apprehended crossing illegally from Mexico into the US. US Customs and Border Protection told us their agents don't have authority to stop people from coming through gaps like this one, and can only arrest them after they've entered illegally. As for closing that gap, they said it is on their priority list, but would require money from Congress. Hold on a minute, let me check my to-do list. Yeah, it's up there. It's next in queue.

31:20 So, this is also some kind of propaganda. And I have to say, just looking at this 60 Minutes piece, to me it seems like exactly as you said, you know, this 30-40% unemployment in China Although I've had people say that's not possible. They can't travel. They gotta be spies. I don't know. They're not all physical. Yeah, there is an element to that, but Chinese do travel. Of course they travel and they can travel to all other countries. You have to get permission to travel, but they travel. Yeah. And then they come in here because they're looking for jobs. Of course, nail salons, kitchens, whatever. It's better than what they've got. But let's not joke around that I think there's also parents and Chinese parents are just like every other parent. They're like, hey, this really sucks here. We got a crappy government. There's no work. I'm going to sell the car. I don't have a car. I'm going to sell the house and I'm going to get you out. I'm going to get you to America.

32:23 I think that's also happening. This is a worldwide plan. I believe that is happening, it has to be. And it's the International Office of Migration that is everywhere. Now what we get to see to psych us up is Darien Gap. These people are not coming through the Darien Gap. They got clean shoes. Everyone saw the, oh no, these guys, they went to the Darien Gap, traveled for a week. Yeah, there's some very sad stories of the Darien Gap. That may be 1%. No, this story this way this is being presented where they just go to get in a in a 4x4 and they yeah a four-wheeler or four by four Escalade they get in an escalator get driven for a couple of hours and dropped off and they did is a $400 cap right is what it amounts to it's like a Chinese uber

33:13 Yeah, yeah, no, I know it makes nothing but sense. That's what you do You'd first you'd find the most efficient way of getting over. Yeah, you wouldn't walk. No ass off. No No, so But in the meantime the literal guy who prints the money is like, hey, thank God we've got immigration backup That's good. And he and he says immigration. Oh He knows, we knew what he means. People coming across the border. He says, thank God, thank God. There's so many jobs. We just didn't, you know, people moved on with their lives here in America. They left their jobs and moved on. Yeah, you see all the tents around on the streets. Yes, they moved on. They moved on to drugs. They moved on to camping on the streets. That's the disgusting part. And we all go, oh, the spies, military-age men. Oh, please.

34:05 And it's world... I was asked on a Dutch program yesterday. It's exactly the same thing. It's exactly the same and everybody's sick of it. And remember, 40% of the world votes this year. So, you know, and of course, of course we need to play this out for nine more months. Of course Trump is telling everybody, keep that going, this is great. Of course, of course he is. He wants to be president. Is it any worse than pretending to fight Iran by bombing some crap in Jordan or Syria, only to legitimize that we're there?

34:48 Oh man, I got one last clip. This is CBS on the crumbling of the plan. As migrants continue to cross, Congress is frozen in place. It shows how broken Washington DC is. A US Senate plan to stiffen border security, tighten requirements for asylum and nearly shutter the border during spikes of migrant crossings had the endorsement of Senate leaders. I didn't see any of that in any bill. Did you see any of that? We're going to shutter the border? No, it was money on the more agents in fact there's a one of the supporters of the bill a democrat tweeted that there's actually no no closing of the border mention even in the bill no it's for more personal thing was this the bill was a scam well designed to get the republicans to vote no so they could be accused

35:32 accused of not wanting to change this. And then since it didn't work out because the Republicans were voting yes on it, at least a few of them, Schumer voted no. I'm going to hound people about this. That's very good, John. That's an excellent observation. At a National Border Patrol union. My Republican colleagues changed their minds. Turns out They want all talk and no action. The motion is not agreed to. But it collapsed in a vote late today. In part because former President Trump opposed it. Was Trump on the floor? Was he there? Trump was there voting no. Trump said no. Hey, get him out of here. The motion is not agreed to. But it collapsed in a vote late today, in part because former President Trump opposed it. Americans are ticked off.

36:18 that this is not resolved. exacerbated and worsening the issue at the border. The Senate today then shifted to a new plan with tens of billions of dollars to help Ukraine and Israel, but no border changes. It'll face stiff resistance in the House. I mean, this place is just it's just chaos, right? Failures happen a day after House Republicans came up one vote short in trying to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. Was it a surprise how it played out? I don't think it was a surprise. It was more of a disappointment.

37:05 Texas Democrat Al Green, hospitalized near the Capitol after intestinal surgery, made a surprise appearance on the floor, casting the deciding vote. You had to sign a waiver to get out of the hospital to vote? It was an acknowledgment that I understood that there could be some consequences that could be adverse to my best interest to do this. Our hero Al. The House could vote as early as next week on a second attempt to impeach Secretary Mayorkas, further inflaming an already fiery and gridlocked Congress. Okay, so that is the show that nobody wants to go to. No one is interested in your stupid little show. And no one's interested in your war. We'll get to that in a moment. Because right now, in this season of Reveal, we have breaking news. Breaking news from the UK. Britain's King Charles

37:55 has been diagnosed with cancer. Buckingham Palace has issued a statement saying that the cancer was discovered while the king was undergoing a separate procedure for an enlarged prostate. That news coming out in just the last hour. We need to go back in time for a moment. We need to go back to December 8th, 2022, episode 1,510 of this podcast. I have not heard anything about Charles. This is interesting. That's why I call around, man. Hey man, what are you talking about today, Charles? I believe it right away. People are mad, they hate Charles. I think it's also some, you know, they're just pushing their anger onto him. Why not? What a painful type. If what you say is true, they're going to have to do something because they have to have a coronation. They can't just let this lie. They're going to have to kill him. Yeah.

38:54 So MI6 or MI5, it'd be five, or GCHQ, those guys, one of these spooky groups up there, they're gonna have to get the old pricker out of the safe. I believe you're right. I really think you're right and Harry has always been the designee. Charles' mom hung in as long as she could. She did not want to see Charles on the throne. And everyone knows Harry is the chosen one. So I think you're right. Now, we can put it in the Red Book. The question is what is the best way to do it? We need a cover story. There it is.

39:37 From the Red Book! From the Red Book. Cover story. Oh, we discovered some worse cancer than the S. He's done. He's toast. He's over. He's out. Willis on deck. No, he wasn't gonna be. No, we knew it. We knew it. We knew it. This is the point. We knew it. I mean, who knows what is going on? But he's out. Harry even flew out. He's dead man walking right now. Dead man walking. King for a day. Dead man walking. I feel sorry to laugh about it, but that's what it is. That's what it is. That's what they do. Okay, I think before we get into war, because it's just a lot of Nat Pops, or as I heard recently, a Nat Package. This is a new term for us. Nat Pops, Nat Package. I think we must talk about, of course, it happens on a show day.

40:30 Tucker Carlson's going to interview Putin. Oh no, oh no, oh no! Oh no! This is great. It's, I mean, he doesn't, he needs zero promotion budget. He doesn't have to promote anything. The mainstream media goes out and promotes his interview for him. What is going on? He's picked up some tips from Trump. Listen to Erin Burnett, unhinged. A massive shakeup in Kiev coming as Putin is trying to court the MAGA GOP in the United States. In fact, one of the leaders of the MAGA GOP is in Moscow tonight. Did you know Tucker's a leader? What? He's a leader. Tucker is somehow a leader of the MAGA movement?

41:17 Since when? Of the MAGA GOP, baby. It's the man you see here with the MAGA leader Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson. Possibly there in Moscow to interview Putin. Definitely there as a Putin-supporting celebrity. Look at them talking about him like a celebrity. Everything he does on camera, breathlessly repeated. Now it is unclear if an interview between Putin and Carlson will take place, but if it does, it gives Putin a chance to sit down with a big supporter. It might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Does he eat dogs? These are fair questions and the answer to all of them is no. You know what that is, right? Vladimir Putin didn't do any of that. Yeah, but what was the dog thing again? The dog thing is always a reference to Obama. Oh, right. It's a running gag. Right, right, right. Exactly.

42:13 I'll actually always remember watching that clip. I was standing in Ukraine 48 hours before the war began there. Carlson then stood by Putin consistently all the way through. She was there to interview Zelensky. That's why she brought that up. She had that fawning interview with Zelensky. Before the war began, she was there? Yeah, to interview Zelensky. By coincidence? I think not. Well, Carlson then stood by Putin consistently all the way through. And that is why he can go to Moscow now without... By the way, she said before the war begin, which was very odd. It would have been began. These are fair questions and the answer to all of them is no. Vladimir Putin didn't do any of that.

42:57 I'll actually always remember watching that clip. I was standing in Ukraine 48 hours before the war begin there. Begin there. What is that? Begin there? What kind of language is begin there? She may be a newcomer, John. Before the war begin there. Then stood by Putin consistently all the way through. And that is why he can go to Moscow now without any fear of being summarily imprisoned. He's a hero. This was Putin's mouthpiece in the United States, somebody who had turned a blind eye to the atrocities committed by Putin because they were happening far away. Once vibrant towns turned to ruins, mass graves with dozens of bodies in the Kiev suburbs, a theater full of innocent women and children sheltering.

43:37 bombed, despite the giant world's children written on the roof. More than 200,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed or injured. Dead! He's a murderer! Putin is trying to seize on the fact that Zelensky's military appears to be in turmoil. Yeah, okay. So of course Trump called up Vladimir and said, my boy's coming, this is great. We'll get your story out. Of course! It doesn't make Tucker a leader of the MAGA GOP. It makes well that was a bet she I didn't know what what the word is I have a clip from 2001 from NBC one of their guys, I don't even know who this guy is interviewing Putin before the war began beginning beginning beginning begin there begin there before the wind begin begin there yes and

44:26 And this is the kind of interview and then they just basically kept Putin out of the picture after this interview. Let me just ask you a direct question. Did you order Alexei Navalny's assassination? Of course not. We don't have this kind of habit of assassinating anybody. That's one. Number two is, I want to ask you, did you order the assassination of the woman who walked into the Congress and who was shot and killed by a policeman? Do you know that 450 individuals were arrested after entering the Congress and they didn't go there to steal a laptop?

45:02 They came with political demands. 450 people have been detained. You're talking about a capital... They're looking at jail time between 15 and 25 years. And they came to the Congress with political demands. Isn't that persecution for political opinions? Yeah, no... But to me, to me, this is... This is to get Trump elected. I mean, I was almost, I knew for sure, I knew it before it began when we brought her out. There she is.

45:41 When you bring out Hillary to promote this, you know they want Trump to win. She wants everybody to watch. And she is literally using the literal same playbook about Trump as she did in 2016. I mean, he's like a puppy dog. You know, he somehow has, after having been fired from so many outlets in the United States, I would not be surprised if he emerges with a contract with outlet because he is a useful idiot. He says things that are not true, he parrots Vladimir Putin's pack of lies about Ukraine. So I don't see why Putin wouldn't give him an interview because through him he can continue to lie about what his objectives are in Ukraine and what he expects to see happen. It's really quite sad that

46:37 Not just somebody like Tucker Carlson who has as I said been fired so many times because he seems unable to you know, correlate his reporting with the truth. But also because it's a sign that there are people in this country right now who are like a fifth column for Vladimir Putin. And why? I don't know. I mean, why are certain Republicans throwing their lot in? Why are other Americans basically believing Putin? Why did Trump believe Putin more than our 11 intelligence agencies? I don't know. Do you have a working theory? I think that's your working theory. That's Alex Wagner, MSNBC. Did Alex Wagner, let me guess, did Alex Wagner say to Hillary that while she was Secretary of State that she managed to sell 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians?

47:33 Are you trying to be like sarcastic? Isn't that kind of like a good question because that seems like pro-Putin-ness. No, I think, no, let's listen to the interview. It was fascinating. Were you surprised by it? Remember, it is my belief that Hillary Clinton is doing this to get all the attention on Trump, focus everything on Trump. Obviously, this is not going to sway any of the MAGA GOP, but it gets his name out there and people sit at home and say, yeah, you know, you know, thinking about this. Were you surprised by their capitulation to Trump's whims on the border bill? I was surprised because it was a really serious effort. The Republicans have done this before. Yes, you had a question. How can it be a serious effort when Schumer himself voted no? When I was in the Senate, we overwhelmingly passed an immigration reform, you know, in addition to security, other provisions as well. We passed it overwhelmingly in the Senate. Did they?

48:31 Was there something? Oh, it was in the Senate. So it never passed. Oh, okay. Then President George W. Bush said he would sign it and the Republican leadership in the House would never bring it up for a vote. So I've said for years they'd rather have a problem on the border than a solution. But I thought this time, given the seriousness of the negotiation, the fact that it was only about security, that frankly the Democrats gave up a lot to support the Republican request for greater security, which I favored actually. And then at the last minute to have Donald Trump tell people who are independently elected in their states and have an obligation to represent their constituents and their conscience that they had to stop

49:18 trying to solve the problem and go back to letting it fester for his own political... Did he call Schumer? He must have called Schumer. Hey Chuck, hey Chuck man, vote that thing down. Do we have any evidence that he called anybody? Of course not, that's what's so beautiful. It was pretty shocking to me. And to do something so explicitly, right? There's no... It wasn't even a surprise, was it? It's just kind of like Trump's telling us we can't do it because it's not good for him in an election year, so we're not going to do it. This is so good with your Chuck Schumer revelation. He said, Chuck Schumer said, Trump told me not to do it, man. There were a few profiles in Courage for a little while, people standing up and saying, what are you talking about? We want to solve this problem. That's why we're sent to Washington. But then they capitulated. And honestly, it shows

50:05 a real danger that Trump poses where it doesn't matter whether you have a bipartisan agreement to solve a problem or not. If he wants it for political purposes, then he tries to and succeeds in blowing it up. That is what authoritarians do. And that's yet another reason why we can't let him anywhere near the White House again. Yeah, okay. So, um... Now, I want to play this clip because I'm glad she's back. Yeah, and I disagree with your thesis or hypothesis or whatever you want to call it now since we've got a bunch of people redefining these words.

50:44 You don't think she's here to promote Trump? No. She hates Trump. I don't believe that for a minute. I think that in fact the line that she has which is Trump's anti-democratic, he's gonna ruin the democracy. She didn't say that. It's all in there. No, she said he's authoritarian. I think she's stupid. I think she's an idiot and she's doing this. She is promoting Trump. I'm not arguing that. Yeah, that's my point. I don't think she means to. Okay, well then she's stupid. I'll take stupid for 25. And we'll take it to the Supreme Court. Are you optimistic about what the Supreme Court does next? I think on this particular issue, this is about the Colorado ballot. I think they just heard oral arguments. If you watch TV today, they actually played them on Fox. I got to hear most of it and it doesn't look good for Colorado, that's for sure. No, of course not. And remember that this is based upon

51:41 Some guy who's a psychologist who said no Trump was thinking insurrection. Yes, I know. I know. It's some guy. Some guy was thinking. Mind reader. Yes. If I were the Supreme Court I wouldn't want to wade into this. It's such a good opinion. I would deny cert, let the opinion stand. Colorado is such a good opinion based upon the guy familiar with the former president's thinking. It's in line with previous opinions. You know, when Trump made the argument about, well, you know, this old hamstring future presidents, well, he's the only one who has been in this position and he is the only one who has claimed such

52:22 broad blanket immunity and we know what his real thoughts are remember I could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue. No no wait wait this is important because now now now she gets into the persuasive arguments that are based on other things that Trump said. Broad blanket immunity. And we know what his real thoughts are. Remember, I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, my supporters wouldn't care. He thinks that he should be above the law, that he should be able to manipulate the law. The last time I checked, despite Trump and his supporters' efforts to undermine this, we were a nation based on the rule of law, not on the rule of individual men, the way that Trump keeps trying to claim. Did Trump ever say, to your knowledge, that he was going to use SEAL Team 6 to kill his political enemies?

53:21 I can't find any reference to it or I can't find a clip. No, because it wasn't him. It wasn't him that said this. I mean, as someone who ran for the presidency and won the popular vote, is it like, can you even wrap your head around arguing in court that you should be able to kill your, assassinate your political enemies using SEAL Team 6? I mean, how did that, how did that argument land with you? Well, you know, he says, so many outrageous things that I think a lot of people have stopped listening and they shouldn't. They should pay very careful attention to what Trump says. Now just to remind ourselves where this was used we go to Stephen Colbert who for some unbelievable reason has Joy Reid on the show. It looks like you know all the safe money is on a Biden-Trump rematch here. Yeah.

54:14 Besides the deja vu, what is that like for you? Because some people aren't sure how to approach this differently this time. What is your approach to this election? Anything different than 2020? The difference between that election and this one is that it was an up in the air question. It was not an up in the air question, I should say, in the previous election whether the president of the United States could use SEAL Team 6 to kill his political opponents. So it's a little different now, right? Like, it's a different Trump. Well, that was the argument that his lawyers made. Yeah, his lawyers made that argument. He never said that. It was part of an argument. Argumentation.

54:58 So we go back to Hillary. Because if they do, they can see the linkage between what he says and what he tries to do. In his first term, on many occasions, he was reined in and even stopped by the people around him because there were people who he put into important positions, who had served in government under prior Republican presidents, who understood the rule of law, who understood the constitutional system, and so much more. They were able to stop him. He will now fill those positions if ever given a chance, which I hope never happens with people who are I love how she says he will now fill those positions Which I hope never happens to stop him

55:40 He will now fill those positions. She knows he's gonna win. There it is. She knows it already. It's a foregone conclusion in her mind. He will now fill those positions. Knowing he's going to win doesn't mean she wants him to win. No, but that's why she says he will now fill those positions and then she says, which we hope will never happen. He will now... Yeah, I agree. The writing's on the wall. Yes, let's just finish in 30 seconds. He will now fill those positions if ever given a chance, which I hope never happens, with people who are totally members of his cult. And I don't say that lightly or as a throwaway line. Because when I look at people who I know

56:21 We're horrified by January 6th, who are Republicans in the House and the Senate, who have come around to dismissing it, to discounting the horror that they themselves felt as they put themselves under desks, as they ran down hallways, as they tried to escape the mob coming at them. There is something about Trump's hold on the Republican Party that is frightening. It's frightening. Thunderbolts of lightning. Here's a clip. This is the immunity... that was the thing about shooting your political opponents came out of the immunity argument. Yes.

57:05 This is from Democracy Now without Amy Goodman. Okay, no, no, no warning. No warning. Yes, thank you. No warning. No warning needed. Trump immune kicker. In its ruling, the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit wrote, quote, we cannot accept former President Trump's claim that a president has unbounded authority to commit crimes that would neutralize the most fundamental check on executive power, the recognition and implementation of election results. The judges went on to write, quote, nor can we sanction his apparent contention that the executive has carte blanche to violate the rights of individual citizens to vote and to have their votes count. Trump has vowed to appeal the ruling, possibly to the Supreme Court. During oral arguments last month, Trump's legal team claimed the former president should have full immunity to do anything, even assassinate political opponents. Let's keep that in play.

58:05 So there is persuasion happening everywhere. And I think Trump is full on, he's got everybody out there, including Ice Cube, and... Ice... Yes. Yeah, I know. And the reason why I say Ice Cube, because I saw your clips and I'm pretty sure I know what it's about, your rapper's lament. I just want to save everyone some embarrassment. We talked about this 12 years ago. This story that hip-hop, there was a secret music meeting and the people who own the labels also own the prisons were gonna make hip-hop music, we're gonna make that gangster rap so we put all the black people in jail. The private jail so they can make money. This is bullcrap.

58:57 It's not true. And Ice Cube repeated this. This is out there. People are sending me this. I mean, if you want to play some of these clips, I'm happy to, but we have read this letter from this anonymous music industry executive verbatim on this show 12 years ago. It's been around forever. I've talked about it with Mo. There's no evidence of this. There's no evidence of these people owning the private prisons. What there is evidence of is that this is a this is to rile up black Americans against Joe Biden For one reason and one reason only listen to the important date here. Let's take rap music. Let's say Same people who own the labels on the prisons so literally the same people literally the same people who own the labels on private prisons the records that come out

59:58 are really geared to push people towards their prison industry. But they didn't make you write those lyrics. It's not about making somebody write the lyrics. It's about being there as guardrails to make sure certain songs make it through and certain songs don't. This, to me, is a And somewhat, you know, some social engineering going on here to make sure those...

1:00:36 Prisons stay full. Do they actually like Monday, Tuesday go to work as a record company executive and Wednesday through Friday? No, no, no. Okay. So if of course they're not, they're not actually running the labels. They have financial interest. They have financial interest. Ice Cube is not stupid. He's on the team. This happened, this, this so-called secret meeting happened in 1991. And what happened, this is what you will hear next, is because this is going to be taken as fact. Oh yeah, oh yeah, there was a secret meeting and this guy was there and it was in 1991. It was to get all the black people all riled up and get them to commit crimes and go to jail. And what happened in 1992? The Biden crime bill. You watch, that's next. This is a psyop.

1:01:30 It's an actual op to get black people to hate Joe Biden to remind them of the 1992 crime bill. Well, you've proven my point. Yeah, that's exactly what's going on. And the crime bill thing, which they tried to bring out in the first election in 2020, it was a huge flop. They couldn't get it to take hold. I mean, they could do a little bit of it during the Hillary election because she had called black criminals, I forgot if it was, it wasn't the word vermin, but it was some horrible phrase that she had. I should know this. For black criminals back in the day.

1:02:17 super predators super predators predator super predators I remember that yes and so but that didn't get catch either but there is possible that I have her not just gangs of kids anymore they are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators no conscience no empathy we can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heal yeah you gotta bring them to heal yeah yeah So this is... So the Democrats have got these issues, but they've been able to keep them under wraps. But using this as a two-pronged approach, which is to reintroduce the gangster rap as a mechanism created for the private prisons, and then follow it up with the crime bill and the commentary that Joe had back in the day, which he doesn't remember, I'm sure. No, but it was good. It was good.

1:03:15 would be quite, just a good move, yeah. Okay. And Ice Cube's on the team! There's no doubt. I mean, he knows. He was making music in the 90s. Oh, come on, Ice Cube. Do you know that, you know, oh no, they wouldn't, they wouldn't put my records out unless it was about killing other black men. No, no, no, no. I mean, it's true today that the record labels encourage drill rap, of course, on sub labels so they can make money and, you know, then make it go big and push the Spotify algos. That's true.

1:03:51 But this view, I'm... It may flop, but I think it's very strong because it came to you, it's been coming to me from... And it's like, hey, did you hear about this? You were on MTV then. Did you know about this meeting? He said, no, fool. No, of course not. Music business is bad, but they're not that bad that they're also running commercial prisons. No. I was the same people. We had a meeting. We had to sign a piece of paper. If we told anybody- Well, the funny thing is about the piece of paper story, which creates this problem, is the one guy that's floating around now, from the clips that I have, he hasn't been in the music business for a while, that piece of paper's valid, because all it says in the piece of paper is that if you reveal this, you're going to get fired. Right. Well, if you're not even working for that same company, you get fired from what? The minute you quit that job, you should go public. Yeah.

1:04:53 But there's no one identified as the guy who wrote that up. I mean, that thing's just been out there forever. As I said, 12, 14 years that story has been around. And we, I think I read, yeah, we read it verbatim on the show. So there's a lot of things at work here. And then, you know, we have war, trying to make some war. And just to show you how everyone... Before we venture off to the war, then we're going to pass over the 3x3. Oh, well let's do that then. And now it's time for 3x3. It is the next remnant 5JCD. Oh yeah. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC.

1:05:43 We have the never-ending 3x3 where we take a look at the headlines from the big news networks. Do they get Nat packages, Nat pops? John has it all. No, no, this is the one, this is about Trump's getting where they said, nah, you don't get this kind of immunity you're looking for. Oh, okay. But this is the appeals court that does it. So it's going to go to the Supreme Court. It's not over yet. And they can't let this stand because in fact, Immunity from what? Immunity from insurrection? Just immunity in general? Immunity from what? Immunity from anything. If you commit a crime in office...

1:06:19 You're immune from prosecution, but you're not immune from impeachment. The remedy, because the president has to do all kinds of things that could be seen from the outside world as illegal. That's very bad. Like killing Americans with drones. Oh, thank you. Thanks Obama. And eating dogs, which Obama did. That could be illegal in some states. So he has to maintain it because if this falls through Obama could be and every president probably and this is what happens in Europe and elsewhere where they don't have this kind of immunity the guy gets Yeah, you can out of office a new guy comes in they immediately go after the old guy. They arrest him like like it was a Milosevic. Oh

1:07:06 Well, not only him, but everybody in South America who's ever been a leader there has been arrested. In fact, the current leader of Brazil got elected after being in prison. I mean, it's just unbelievable. So you have to have this kind of thing and then if it goes too far, if the guy's really a... If he does shoot his political opponent, he gets impeached. You impeach him and it's not that hard to do. So that's what you're supposed to do. So they... and I would say George Bush could be a war criminal. Could be. No problem. So here we go with... but it got rejected at the lower course. It's gonna go up.

1:07:52 Pointing to the three by three is to compare the coverage. So let's start with ABC and Pierre Thomas. In a scathing opinion of federal appeals court rejecting Donald Trump's claims, he has complete immunity from prosecution for anything he did as president, including his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. The three judge panel unanimously ruling former President Trump has become citizen Trump. Any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as president, no longer protects him against this prosecution. We cannot accept that the office of the presidency places his former occupants above the law for all time thereafter. Trump claims he cannot be tried for trying to overturn the election and his actions leading up to January 6th.

1:08:38 has to have a million. In court in January, the judge is deeply skeptical, asking if a president could order the assassination of his opponent and get away with it. Trump's lawyer arguing a president can't be charged unless he is first impeached and convicted by Congress. But a president who ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution? If he were impeached and convicted first. So your answer is, Today, the court was blunt. We cannot accept former President Trump's claim that the president has unbounded authority to commit crimes. The judge is also taking aim at the serious nature of the charges Trump faces, writing former President Trump's alleged efforts to remain in power despite losing the 2020 election were, if proven, an unprecedented assault on the structure of our government.

1:09:31 Trump has until Monday to appeal to the Supreme Court. If the high court declines the appeal, the judge overseeing the case could set a new trial date soon. But if the Supreme Court decides to consider the matter, all bets are off, David. There could be lengthy delays. I'm very excited to see how NBC and CBS handled this. Did they have the same quote? The same Seal Team 6 quote? Well, the thing about, you know, you can shoot your political opponent still cracks me up. It's great. Because they keep using it and everyone's using it as leverage because he wants to be dictator from day one. Oh no, only on day one. But no, no, but that's not the way it's being presented. From day one. From day one. Yes.

1:10:11 Not only on day one. Okay, let's go to, that was what ABC, let's go to NBC. Former President Donald Trump today dubbed citizen Trump by a three judge panel in Washington ruling Mr. Trump is not immune from prosecution. The court saying we cannot accept that the office of the presidency places its former occupants above the law for all time thereafter. But wait a minute. He was president when this took place. So they're arguing. They're confusing the matter. They're arguing about something which of course is true if you're no longer president. That's not what they argued in court but the networks are arguing it. To make it appear as though, okay I was president so now I can...

1:10:55 From there on I'm immune from everything. That's not what the case is about, but that's what the network wants you to think. And it's not true. The Trump campaign saying he'll appeal the decision. I like how they keep saying citizen Trump. Trump himself bemoaning the ruling saying a president of the United States must have full immunity in order to properly function and do what has to be done. They should have used our word, lamenting. But they said bemoaning, bemoaning. Self-bemoaning the ruling, saying a president of the United States must have full immunity in order to properly function and do what has to be done for the good of our country. Special counsel Jack Smith charged Mr. Trump last summer for his efforts to reverse the 2020 election results and stop the peaceful transfer of power.

1:11:41 We will never give up. We will never concede. Mr. Trump's legal team has been trying to get the charges tossed out for months, arguing he should be completely immune from prosecution for any acts he took as president. The court today, unpersuaded, saying we cannot accept former President Trump's claim that a president has unbounded authority to commit crimes that would neutralize the most fundamental check on executive power, the recognition and implementation of election results. The Trump campaign capitalizing on the court's decision today with a fundraising plea as a Republican frontrunner frequently uses his legal setbacks

1:12:21 as fuel for his latest White House bid. With today's ruling, Mr. Trump's only hope at avoiding trial is for the Supreme Court to decide. Supreme Court to find he is immune, which would have major implications in the other legal cases he faces as well. What are the next steps? What's the timeline ahead? Well, Lester, the court today said Mr. Trump has just until Monday to appeal this to the U.S. Supreme Court. Now, it's unclear if the justices there will even take up the case. But if they choose not to, this trial could happen as early as this summer, Lester.

1:13:01 So what do you think? I mean... Well, first of all, NBC did not drop the bomb about... No, they didn't put it in there. Shooting your political opponent. What's wrong with them? Sorry? What's wrong with them? That's the best, that's the best quote. I know, and NBC is the most anti-Trump of the network. Yeah, they had it on MSNBC with Hillary, they let her put it in there. They should have put it in. So I'm baffled by that particular coverage. It was light, it was lightweight. Let's go to CBS and see what Jan Crawford has to say. The ruling by the influential DC-based federal appeals court was a stern rebuke of the former president's sweeping claims about immunity from prosecution, with the court saying the former president must face trial for efforts to subvert the 2020 election.

1:13:48 For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become Citizen Trump with all the defenses of any other criminal defendant. In court and on the campaign trail, Donald Trump repeatedly says he can't be prosecuted for his actions as president. A president has to be given immunity and this has nothing to do with me. But the three-judge panel of two Democratic appointees and one Republican was unanimous and emphatic. Any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as president no longer protects him against this prosecution. The bounds of Trump's immunity arguments became clear last month. While he sat in the front row of a packed courtroom, one of the judges presented his lawyer with a dramatic hypothetical. I asked you a yes or no question. Could a president who ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, could he be subject to criminal prosecution?

1:14:46 If he were impeached and convicted first. Since the Senate declined to convict Trump, that argument would mean special counsel Jack Smith couldn't either. Now that I think about it, it was actually the judge who came up with the hypothetical, not Trump's lawyers. Let me listen to it again. It's his lawyer. Everybody says it's Trump's lawyers who came up with the hypothetical. Let me listen. With a dramatic hypothetical. While he sat in the front row of a packed courtroom, one of the judges presented his lawyer with a dramatic hypothetical. Wow! Oh wow! Not only did Trump not say it, someone who hates Trump said it. That's great. I asked you a yes or no question.

1:15:31 Could a president who ordered SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, could he be subject to criminal prosecution? You should never answer a hypothetical. If he were impeached and convicted first. Since the Senate declined to convict Trump, that argument would mean special counsel Jack Smith couldn't either, and the appeals court flatly rejected it. So, that was clearly a talking point that a lot of people agreed upon. They must have had a meeting about that. Oh judge. You've got to ask this question We'll all use it for years and Jan Crawford is here with us and so is CBS News chief election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa good to have both of you here for more context and analysis so Jan this is not the end of this right? No, it's not the full Court of Appeals to reconsider this or he can skip that step and just go straight to the Supreme Court but

1:16:25 Having lost at every tournament, I think that is a long shot. I don't see how he's going to get five votes from the Supreme Court if they decide to take up this case. And if they do, I still think we're looking at a trial possibly late spring or early summer. Oh, well, I think the Supreme Court will punt on this one. They don't want to deal with that. I disagree. You think they're going to take it? I think they'll take it, but it'll go on the docket. It won't be heard for forever. No, but it would be more fun because during the summer months we need some TV action. Everything's on hiatus. I'm just thinking from a logical perspective. Yeah, but nobody's watching TV during the summer. That's the problem. Well, we'll have something to watch. It's free content. It's free. For us. All right. You have a plus. Let's go to the CBC. Canada. Canada, they got a report.

1:17:19 USA! USA! For what happened on January 6, when a mob stormed the US Capitol to overturn the 2020 presidential election results, Donald Trump can face prosecution. That according to a unanimous and scathing ruling from a three-judge federal appeals panel. They wrote, we cannot accept former President Donald Trump's claim that a president has unbounded authority to commit crimes. It's a total rejection of Trump's claims that his actions on that day are protected by presidential immunity. On social media, Trump railed against the ruling, calling it dangerous. He wrote, a president of the United States must have full immunity in order to properly function. During proceedings, that line of argument was repeatedly challenged by the three judge panel, including Judge Karen LaCraft Henderson. I think it's paradoxical to say that

1:18:19 His constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed allows him to violate criminal laws. Today's ruling is unprecedented, largely because no former American president has ever faced criminal charges. In Washington, Trump supporters once again blame the former president's legal troubles on political bias. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. I believe that they've been after President Trump for partisan political purposes. I think that's obvious and we call it lawfare and I think there's no other way to describe it. From Trump loyalist Representative Matt Gaetz. We are here today to authoritatively express that President Trump did not commit an insurrection.

1:19:04 The team has until February 12 to file an appeal to the Supreme Court and what the court decides could have an effect on whether the issue is settled before or after the November election. Right. All right. The sad thing about this is it has destroyed all faith in the American justice system. I would hate to be sued. I'd hate to be charged for anything. You've got no chance. It's all corrupt. I know. Am I stating the obvious here? Well, I don't know if it's as bad as you make it out to be. Well, yeah. I would say at the highest levels, yes. Yeah. But not necessarily locally. Unless some nut job says you raped her at Bergdorf Goodman and they say, well, you know, you didn't rape her, but you defamed her.

1:20:00 83 million dollars. 83 million dollars. You know, it's like, no, I think there's loss. Well, the real problem is that the cost of these defenses is just ridiculous. He's going broke doing these things. I mean, he still owns a lot of property. I mean, imagine that the government sues me for denying the moon landing. Things are so bad that even Trudeau is telling the Candanavians they don't want to be like Trump. Mr. Speaker, what we hear from the leader of the opposition is under the previous Conservative government everything was perfect and what he is proposing to do is to make Canada great again. That is not what Canadians want. He is fighting for a nostalgia that quite frankly Canadians do not feel. Don't make Canada great again. No! No!

1:20:57 It's not what Canadians want. No, they don't want it to be great again at all. All right, so we have the Democrats in this grand theatrical game, which I don't even know how many people are really that interested in, but it is good for us to just pull it apart. We have the Republicans, the Democrats are saying, oh, it's Trump's fault, this war. And now we have Lindsey Graham, I mean, for the border. Lindsey Graham is now going to put his ugly little fat fingers into the war business and that they're doing it all wrong. And it would have been better if Trump were in office. I mean, the whole thing is just disgusting. Our national security is in freefall.

1:21:48 Morgan Ortega's made a very good point. Look at the record for the last three years. This is a symptom of a greater problem. We withdrew from Afghanistan, the Taliban took over in 2021. Showing weakness, Putin invades Ukraine in 2022. In 2023, Hamas attacks Israel, killing more Jews than any time since the Holocaust. Holocaust? 2024, we're having a miracle. I love how he says holocaust like holodeck. 2023 Hamas attacks Israel killing more Jews than any time since the holocaust. 2024 we're having Americans killed by Iranian proxies in the mid east. They're pushing us all over the place. Our national security is in free fall. Here's what works.

1:22:33 hit something they value. Soleimani was killed with a single strike. He was their General Patton in Eisenhower. There was nothing left but a smoldering car and a ring finger. It worked. They got back in a box. Here's what we need to do. You need to hit something I told I told values his leadership team like a cell of money or take him out of the oil business if we hit their oil infrastructure You don't need man aircraft. They've got four refineries You can see from space if you knock one of them out they would stop this our American troops are in harm's way If the goal is to deter Iran you're failing miserably they got the message what they're not and

1:23:15 of If there's another round of strikes coming, I hope they really will hurt Iran in their pocketbook or kill their leadership because if you don't, nothing changes. The guy who literally told Mark Zuckerberg he had blood on his hands is saying, hey, kill some people. Kill some people that matter. Kill some people that matter. Blow some stuff up.

1:23:58 But I think he's right. These so-called strikes that we're doing, it's just, if anything, it's just to legitimize that we're in Jordan where we shouldn't be in the first place. Or Syria. No, we can be in Jordan. Not in Syria. Syria. Syria. Yes, Syria. If we go back to a clip, I remind people that we had, I don't have the clip in front of me, but we had this clip of one of our analysts going on that this whole thing is a scam because we're in bed with Iran. Yes. Do you remember the name of that clip? No, I, you know, I'm going to have to try to dig it up.

1:24:35 The claim was that we're in bed with Iran, the whole thing's phony, that's why we don't want to get into a war with them or even get pushed into one and they don't want one either because we know we're all doing this for more oil to get into the market. The market is flooded with oil. Biden has done just the opposite of what he said he was going to do but he can't talk about it or brag about it because his base You know, it's all against fossil fuels. But again, all you have to do is go to the American Petroleum Institute or anybody else and you'll find that we've been pumping more oil than ever domestically and internationally than ever before. We're flooded. The market has got lots of oil. I think this is all, even the Red Sea, it's all about control of oil. All of it.

1:25:22 Which has been kind of a thesis of the show. Yeah. Since the pipeline episode. Pipeline's oil. And then the pipeline episode. Yep. 118 or something? 181? 180? Yeah. Well I want to play some clips from Al Jazeera about this war because they brought on an Iranian professor at the University of Tehran and he brings in some points that we've made on the show. The guy's glib and he's a dick. And he smirks when other people are talking, especially the American representative, the representing American side of the argument. He's, oh yeah, sure. You can just see it in his eyes. But he's got some things to say that I think are interesting enough that our group here should be aware of or be reminded of mostly. Let's go with this.

1:26:16 Let's bring in our guests for today's discussion. From Tehran we're joined by Mohamed Marandi, a political analyst and professor at the University of Tehran. From London, Rehnad Mansoor, senior research fellow and director of the Iraq Initiative at Chatham House, a British think tank. And from Washington DC, Lawrence Corwin, senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and former US Assistant Secretary of Defense. Gentlemen, welcome to you all. Mohammed Murandi, Professor, how dangerous a moment is this for the region? Will these strikes be the last? The United States is only digging itself into a deeper hole.

1:26:57 The United States is illegally occupying one third of Syria. The United States keeps its military bases in Iraq, despite the fact that the Iraqi parliament has told them to leave. They struck bases that are linked to the Iraqi military, that belong to the Iraqi military. The Iraqis condemned the attack, and the same is true with Syria. Biden wants to look strong. He hasn't attacked Iranians. And most importantly, is the fact that this is about Iraqi and Syrian sovereignty. The Americans like to call everyone Iranian proxies, the Yemenis, the Lebanese, the Palestinians, and the Iraqis and the Syrians, but that's just, they're just misleading public opinion and they're fooling themselves. People don't like their countries to be occupied.

1:27:54 You could also argue, Professor, that Iran is occupying parts of Syria, Iraq and Lebanon, couldn't you? You know, I always... Of course this guy is going to be right, I'm sure. But I always feel bad when we do this show and like, we're the bad guys. We're just douches. I mean, we're occupying everybody's... I mean, I know we've been saying it for 16 years. Because it's been true, but I just feel bad about it. Let's stop. That is the one thing that I really, really liked about Trump. Just, you know, let's not do that. Let's just do our own thing over here. Let's not do that. Yeah, he had all kinds of back deals and backroom deals with everybody, but... Well, the backroom stuff, the back-channeling is what... And they bring it out in this commentary because the guy who's not the Chatham House guy really doesn't say much, which is it.

1:28:50 kind of remarkable in itself since they always have something to say that's propagandistic. Chatham House is an interesting operation. It's like... Kind of like the CFR. We have Chatham House rules where anything we say can't be talked about. Yeah, that kind of thing. But the other guy, the American ex, I think is a DO, Defense Department guy, he brings up some interesting points and I think that, and they're in these clips, where what is on the surface is bull crap because most of the back-channeling is just the opposite of what we're hearing.

1:29:26 He calls out this Iranian guy a couple of times, but let's go with clip two. No, Iran doesn't have any forces in Iraq and Iran's role in Syria is with the consent of the internationally recognized government in Damascus. And in any case... But it has proxy militias though, doesn't it? No, whatever Iran does in Syria, it is with the consent and support of the government. Iran helps defeat ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Remember, on February 12, 2012,

1:30:05 Jake Sullivan, the now U.S. National Security Advisor, sent an email to Hillary Clinton, who was the Secretary of State, saying that in Syria, Al-Qaeda is on our side. ISIS came from Al-Qaeda. The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency document of 2012 said that the U.S. allies in the region wanted to establish a Salafist entity between Iraq and Syria. And then the General Michael Flynn, who was the head of that agency at the time, said in an interview on Al Jazeera that the US took a will... Wait, wait, wait. Did he say Michael Flynn?

1:30:41 to establish a Salafist entity between Iraq and Syria. And then General Michael Flynn, who was the head of that agency at the time, said in an interview on Al Jazeera that the US took a willful decision to support the establishment of that Salafist entity. That was ISIS. So the Iranians, when the US and its allies were establishing ISIS and Al-Qaeda and their affiliates, the Iranians were helping the Syrians and the Iraqis to prevent ISIS from taking over Damascus and Baghdad. Right. So let's just agree on one thing. This is not because we hate anybody that lives in the sand. It's because there's oil in the sand. And we have the military industrial complex which employs... it's our business.

1:31:30 Yeah, we gotta get that oil. We need it. Our business is oil, our business is war. Well, the war is just, the war is more a function of making sure that oil keeps flowing. Yes, yes. I love how some in the troll room are saying, speak for yourself, Curry. I'm not an American. I don't agree with those crooks in Washington. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't walk away from it. Crooks in Washington. Go vote, that'll change things. Right now, in London, what do you make of what you just heard? Well, I think, I mean, it's important to kind of nuance some of this history. The Americans were also invited to Iraq in 2014 by the Iraqi government to support in the fight against ISIS. So at that time and during the fight against ISIS, the Americans and the Iranians had a common enemy and they fought

1:32:26 You know, not on the same side by side, but with the common end. After ISIS, we're living in this sort of post-ISIS arena, this region, where now they've sort of turned on each other. And this is the latest of this escalation. So both Iran and the US have significant influence across these countries. The US does have troops in Iraq and Syria, and Iran of course has, you know, I agree that calling them proxies takes the agency away from these groups, but they are aligned and they do work together. And these are networks that span across Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq.

1:33:07 pursuing at times Iran's foreign policy goals. So this is a very dangerous, I think, you know, some are calling it tinderbox right now, where neither the Iranians nor the Americans want an all out war or a direct conflict. But what we're seeing is this tit for tat show of force that's making the region very dangerous. Oh, the region. Thank God we're back in the region. The region is great. You know what's in the region? Our oil under their sand is in the region. That's exactly right, and I think that's brought up in the next clip. Lawrence Korb, do you want to come back on anything that you've heard so far before I put a direct question to you? Yeah, I think it's important to keep in mind that we left Iraq in 2011. In fact, I talked to Maliki about staying.

1:33:55 Basically, we came back in 2014 at their invitation because of what ISIS was doing. And basically, that has been our role. Before October 7th, we were carrying this out. We were talking to the Iraqis about leaving. Sometimes they say something publicly, but privately, no, they still wanted us to say. But after October 7th, you had over 160 attacks on the American forces there in Iraq and Syria. Fortunately, no one was killed, so our response was not overwhelming or as strong as it has been when the Americans died. And that's where we are right now. And my experience with the Iraqis, a lot of times they'll say something publicly

1:34:47 to appease the Iranians, but then privately they'll say, no, no, we really still want you to stay. You know what I'm missing? I'm missing shots of people saying death to America. They need to get that going again. And I honestly, I would really like to have those guys in the orange jumpsuits beheading people again, because that was some good video they were producing. Yeah, I think they got it. Yeah, that was good. It was it was more entertaining than what we're getting. That's for sure. These are kind of dry and kind of academic. In fact, these clips are very much that way. I know, but it's still good. It's a good reminder because this goes back 10, 10 years, eight years. All of this stuff is just if nothing has changed, they just rehash rehashing. This is five.

1:35:40 It's the last one, right? Yeah, it's the last one. No, there's six. There's six. Oh yes, I'm sorry, six. Mohammed Murrandi, US National Security Spokesman John Kirby said that the goal is to get the attacks on US interests to stop. We're not, he said, quote, looking for a war with Iran. Now, no targets were hit within Iran in these retaliatory strikes. How will Iran and its proxies respond? Will it reign these groups in, as Lawrence said the U.S. wants it to? Let's be clear. Contrary to what your guest in the United States says, these are not proxies. And the real issue here is the genocide in Gaza. I have no doubt about it. And the United States, as we speak, is preparing the Israeli regime for an expansion in Lebanon.

1:36:33 So, in the coming weeks we may have heavy fighting in southern Lebanon. The United States is not retaliating in Syria. The United States is an illegal occupation force in Syria. In the Al-Tanf area where it occupies, in fact, There are tribes that were loyal to ISIS. Those tribes are trained by the Americans right now, and they use that area, al-Tanf, to attack Syrian government forces. And in the last couple of months, they carried out two major attacks, in each case killing between 15 to 20 conscript soldiers on buses, and I think on both occasions. So the United States

1:37:17 Its presence in Syria is illegal. It is stealing Syrian oil in the east of the country and exporting it. No! Iraq! What? The United States has bombed Iraqi military positions. It has destroyed Iraqi facilities that were constructed and paid for by the Iraqi government. This is the reality on the ground. Nothing will change that. Okay, so the one thing I'd like to understand is who and how are we pumping the oil out of Syria? What company? I don't know. That's a crazy accusation, but it sounds right. It's the only thing that explains our presence in Syria. But who, what company, who is, I know there's pipelines everywhere, but who is really pumping it out? Well that we need to find out. Because that's a blockbuster. Yeah. But that to me, I've never heard that before.

1:38:14 that were stealing Syrian oil. And Syria's never been known as an oil producer, but they're in that same region. They probably have oil here and there. They're in the region. They're in the region, soaking with oil, soaked. It's northeast Syria, I think, is where the oil is. Hasakah, it's northeast. Was it anywhere near a port? Well, he's pumping it right to the port and shipping it out in tankers. This comes back to the Kurds probably. It's probably very cheap to get it there. Oh, it's got to be dirt cheap. Sure. Conoco. Conoco. Conoco? Conoco. Yeah, who owns Conoco? Who's that? It's an offshoot of Standard Oil of New York. Ah, there you go. Makes sense.

1:39:02 It's a spin-off from years ago. Is this all because, I mean, so the grand game is you try to hamper Russia's oil, which to some degree of course did work, even though no. But for some stuff it didn't help. I'll tell you what fascinates me is that they've managed to keep the cost of oil over $70 a barrel by creating what seems to be a shortage while pumping more than ever before. The price of oil right now to the American public, to the consumer, especially the gasoline price, should be back to the pre-Trump era.

1:39:42 And it shouldn't be $75 a barrel or whatever it is, it's in the 70s, and goes through, floats between 72 and 80 to 90. It should be down to the 50s. Isn't it just phony markets and markets are also based on sentiment and news stories? Absolutely. So they give you the impression that, you know, and we're cutting down, we're no more fossil fuels. And the whole bull crap that they're promoting is doing nothing but benefiting the big oil companies. Again, I would tell people to take a look at this chart for Exxon Mobil from the day Biden got elected to today. If you would have put your money into Exxon Mobil right at the day he got elected, I think you would have tripled your money by now. But this is so scamish, it's embarrassing. Same for Meta.

1:40:33 Meta. So let's go with meta. Yeah, we actually that quadrupled quadrupled quadrupled went from 100 under 100 to 400. Yeah, it went to about from 96 to 400 pretty quickly. So let's go to clip six. And I should also add that the United States, after the assassination of the Iraqi commander, Abu Mahdi al-Mohandis, alongside General Qasem Soleimani, At the Iraqi International Airport over four years ago, the Iraqi parliament demanded that the United States leave and they never did. They said they'd leave, but the United States has one strong card to play with, and that is that all of Iraqi oil that is sold, the money goes to accounts in the United States.

1:41:24 And whenever the Iraqi government goes too far, the Americans start withholding Iraqi funds and creating a crisis in Iraq. So the Americans are like the godfather. They stand back, they pretend they're the good guys. But just like in Gaza where they are part of this genocide, and here they play the same role. Remember, the United States and Iraq, they helped Saddam Hussein. The West gave Saddam Hussein chemical weapons. The US fought alongside Saddam Hussein against Iran in 1988, striking Iranian ships. And then it turned against Iraq. Later on, it invaded Iraq. Who created this mess? It was the United States. Yeah. Don't even talk about Libya and Gaddafi. We really did a number on him.

1:42:14 For sure. Yeah, well, so I'll follow that up. I have a Lester Holt interview, short here, two short clips, with the ambassador to the UN, Iran's ambassador to the UN. Let's see if we can get some clarification on the big theater from him. I spoke to Ambassador Amir Saeed Iravani just days after three US soldiers died in a drone attack and with ongoing strikes on commercial ships in the Red Sea. The US blaming Iranian-backed militias. Much of the conversation centers on the level of control over or influence that you and the Iranian government has over these groups, the Houthis and other groups. If you pick up the phone, can you end the attacks? No. May I say that it is not the same case. The relation between Iran and the resistance group in this region may be compared with the NATO treaty. So you're calling this like a defense pact? Yeah, defense pact between the resistance group and Iran

1:43:17 They have their own decision, they have their own choices. It is not related to a phone call to the Houthis. Houthi attacks that we've seen on commercial shipping, sophisticated weapons. Is Iran supplying those weapons? Not at all. Would Iran prefer that the Houthi attacks against commercial shipping, threatening U.S. naval vessels, do you wish those would stop? Are they helpful? No, we encourage all of them to stop. You're encouraging them to stop. We encourage them to stop. We expect that the other side also should encourage the Israeli to stop. Stop. We got to stop. Stop it all. Stop it all. You know, I always have to think of Lex's wife Fariba. She says, everyone in Iran, everyone knows America and Iran are working together. Everybody knows it over there.

1:44:15 On Friday, the U.S. began what's expected to be a wave of attacks in response to the deaths of those American soldiers. If there was an American attack on Iran or Iranian interests, what do you foresee the reaction would be? Oh, we'd break out the party hats. He's doing the interview still, right? Yeah. So they cut away to it's like a what is this the family guy show? Yeah. So they cut away to some Nat pops and explosions. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, please. We attacked you. What would your reaction be? One of joy, of course. You know that. Absolutely. You know, we have the only action.

1:44:55 We said clearly that if they attack in Iran soil or Iran benefit or Iran individuals all around the world, we have their own reaction. We will defend absolutely. And I asked about news Hamas has responded to an offer for a hostage deal. There's been a response from the opposition, but Yes, I'm sorry we're from Hamas But it seems to be a little over the top. We're not sure where it is. How do you view? The fact that a deal may come about soon. I think that if the other side accepts the condition of the Hamas, the ceasefire is possible.

1:45:47 A lasting one? A lasting one. Oh, please. Theatre. Theatre. And by the way, they don't care who dies. They don't care who dies on the streets of America, don't care who dies in Gaza. No one cares. We are dispensable human resources. Best to stay away. I mean the hostages they say 30% of them are dead. They must be dead by now. No, they said at least 30 of the 150 are already dead. Yeah. The 150 left that they haven't passed on, passed back. And you know, I don't think they want to know, I don't think they're ever going to bring this to a conclusion because they don't want to find out they're all dead. Yeah.

1:46:28 Also, the minute that happens, then Bibi Netanyahu gets kicked out. He'll be gone. Everybody hates him. So they need that ongoing conflict. Genocide. Well, it has to go on for a while. I'm going to move to something else a little less depressing. There was this headline which kind of reminded me of the Swift op. Biden camp reportedly fears photos from special counsel classified documents probe could devastate re-election bid. I immediately thought, ha, there it is. There's your AI fake photo, uh, Swift op. Oh.

1:47:11 Special counsel Robert Herr. Yep, being set up for fake photos. Fake photos. Now is it going to be a real photo they're going to say is fake? Yes. Or is it a fake photo they're going to say is fake? They're going to say it's fake, whatever it is. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Either way is good. Special counsel Robert Herr could release report in Biden classified docs case as soon as this week. But what would be so embarrassing? Just picture just stuff thrown about or I mean haven't we already seen it in his garage wasn't that embarrassing enough? No, it's got to be something else got to be some way I did to be good. It has to be sexual Yeah, like taking showers with his daughter. Well, they're not gonna have any photos of that but

1:47:58 I don't know what it could be. We'll find out soon enough because you know it's gonna come out if they if although do you remember this this isn't always interested me you remember the Abu grab scandal with oh yeah oh yeah yeah a little dominatrix girl with a whip and she's beating guys and they're naked and they're piling naked guys all these wires hooked up to him the wires hooked up and they're in you know with a black hood and all the rest of it yeah And they made the comment, and I think it was either Schumer or somebody in Congress says, well, you know, people are going to have to get ready because that's not even the worst of it. The worst is to come. And we never saw anything after that. Never saw it.

1:48:44 So you have to wonder, in fact right now the latest is, and I don't think I have any clips about it, but the concept that, I'll have it for the next show, Jeremy Scafee or whatever his name is, this is Scahill, that's on Democracy Now! claims that they've done the research and shows that the entire Situation Gaza versus Iraq is all bogus and he's got all kinds of documentation for it and I have commentary but I have to I have to or it's too long on one of these long blah blah blah things I got to cut it way down. Yeah, take me a little shorter than the professor just one clip shorter six Well, you know the professor I didn't like it being this long I did cut a lot out because there was more than just a professor but I'd like what the professor had to say

1:49:36 even though he was a dick. So, climate change, couple of things happening. One is that Mark... What's his name? Well, I have the intro clip before you start on climate change. The Mark Stein thing? Do you have that? No, no. I have an intro clip just to get you in the mood. Okay. What is it? What is the... This is the California floods of Democracy Now! report because, you know, the Democracy Now! they get to the bottom of things. Is it Amy? No, it's not Amy, it's Namina or whatever her name is, the homely woman. In California, at least nine people have died as the state continues to be pummeled with record-breaking rainfall from a deadly atmospheric river storm.

1:50:20 Some areas of Southern California recorded over 13 inches of rain in recent days, triggering mass flooding and hundreds of mudslides. This is the actor and filmmaker Deborah Pewitt speaking in Studio City as a river of water flowed down the street. These record highs in the summertime and then these incredible storms that we've never had before that they're calling, you know, once every hundred year storms and we've had two of them since August. So that's my belief is of course it's climate change. Of course it's climate change. How is it there John? How are the mud flats? How's everything looking over there? It's beautiful out right now. Sunny, few clouds in the sky. It's nice. It's a little cold.

1:51:02 It was 41 last night. It was really cold. Yeah, but There's no rain. It hasn't rained for a couple or rain a little bit yesterday and it's gonna be now the other day Weeks on Sunday we had day you had wind there. Was that the once in 100 years storm that you had? Well, we've had this we any time there's wind from the south It's an it's a nuisance. It's such blowing stuff over but that wasn't my question. I Have you had two? Yeah, two once in 100 years. Every hundred years. And of course, it's because of climate change. No, there's a court case right now. I think it's in Manhattan. By the way, why would you automatically go to that? Why do you have to be brainwashed? If say climate change was never discussed or even thought of.

1:51:47 Would you automatically think climate change because it's rained a little bit in Los Angeles? It rains there all the time. When it rains in LA and fills up that culvert called Los Angeles River, which is a cement thing they build just for overflow, and it's filled. As a kid, I remember it getting filled and it gets filled every decade. Well, yes. The answer is yes. Trillions of dollars have been spent for the past 40 years on psychologically telling people, manipulating people into believing that climate change is killing us. I heard a guy I know pretty well just the other day, he lives in Australia, says, oh it's 85 degrees here, well it's climate change. And we're burning up again in Australia, it's climate change.

1:52:36 Yeah, and it's just, you know, we used to say, well, it's Indian summer. Well, it's hot or whatever we'd say. It's hot. That's what we used to say. It's hot. I remember in the 70s going back to visit from Holland and we were in, I'm going to say maybe we're in New England and hanging out and, you know, the tar was melting on the street and I remember it was hot. I remember cooking an egg in Vegas for a TV show in 1990. It was hot. You know, it's not any hotter. Anyway, it gets hot every year. So Mark Stein, remember him? Mark Stein? Mark Stein. Yeah, he used to be a substitute for Mark Levin, but too many marks. He used to be on Tucker and he used to be on a lot. He used to be on all the Fox and radio shows, all the radio shows. I think he even took a brush limbaugh seat a couple of times. Yes.

1:53:27 So he is in a lawsuit right now, it's a civil suit and it's being a defamation suit by Michael Mann against Mark Stein as Mark Stein... Michael Mann the director? No, Michael Mann the climate change guy. Remember the guy who manipulated all of the data? Oh, the climate gate guy. This is the hockey stick guy. The hockey stick guy. So Mark Stein, probably on a throwaway, said, well this is bullcrap, this is a lie, this is manipulated data. And this was 12 years ago. And so, you know, he... let me see if I can see what is exactly... A slow way to shut people up. Here, about 12 years ago, he added some comments to an internet post written by someone else. His observations drew a... oh, here's the problem... drew a parallel between Jerry Sandusky,

1:52:36 Yeah, and it's just, you know, we used to say, well, it's Indian summer. Well, it's hot or whatever we'd say. It's hot. That's what we used to say. It's hot. I remember in the 70s going back to visit from Holland and we were in, I'm going to say maybe we're in New England and hanging out and, you know, the tar was melting on the street and I remember it was hot. I remember cooking an egg in Vegas for a TV show in 1990. It was hot. You know, it's not any hotter. Anyway, it gets hot every year. So Mark Stein, remember him? Mark Stein? Mark Stein. Yeah, he used to be a substitute for Mark Levin, but too many marks. He used to be on Tucker and he used to be on a lot. He used to be on all the Fox and radio shows, all the radio shows. I think he even took a brush limbaugh seat a couple of times. Yes.

1:53:27 So he is in a lawsuit right now, it's a civil suit and it's being a defamation suit by Michael Mann against Mark Stein as Mark Stein... Michael Mann the director? No, Michael Mann the climate change guy. Remember the guy who manipulated all of the data? Oh, the climate gate guy. This is the hockey stick guy. The hockey stick guy. So Mark Stein, probably on a throwaway, said, well this is bullcrap, this is a lie, this is manipulated data. And this was 12 years ago. And so, you know, he... let me see if I can see what is exactly... A slow way to shut people up. Here, about 12 years ago, he added some comments to an internet post written by someone else. His observations drew a... oh, here's the problem... drew a parallel between Jerry Sandusky,

1:54:20 That's the Penn football coach, the fiddler. Yeah, the pedophile. Yes, and Mann. Well, he was a trainer guy. He wasn't a coach. Yeah, both Mann and Sandusky were investigated by Penn State's administration, which Stein characterized as a cover-up. So I guess that's where the problem stems from. But so now they're in court, and we'll find out if that hockey stick a

1:55:00 There's a pseudo win in the European Union. Everyone's like yeah, the farmers did it we beat up. The European Union has dropped a key part of its 2040 proposal requiring agricultural emissions to be cut by 30%. It's a big deal. The move comes as Spanish farmers staged protests across the country as you see right there using tractors to block roads in some areas. They're joining farmers in Germany, France and other European countries who have held similar protests in recent weeks. Farmers are angry about rising costs, high levels of bureaucracy and competition from non-EU countries. So here's what I understand what happened.

1:55:43 The European Union said, we're going to drop this. You don't have to cut 30% in CO2. But two days before they did that, the EU Commission set tougher climate targets, upping the CO2 level reduction from 55% by 2050 to 90%. So while everyone thought they got a deal, they actually got screwed. And this is not reported at all. I mean, I got a report, but I have no news report. So that's all they did is said, all right, you know what we're doing? We're going to screw these guys. We're just going to change this from 55 to 90. Yeah, we'll give you 30% off. No, it's the same. So what do they get? 45? So they really got a 5% difference? How do you even count that anyway? Well, the farmers will figure this out.

1:56:47 Well, eventually, but the momentum is gone. You know, the momentum. Oh, yeah, we farmers go farmers. You beat him, farmers. Well, the momentum has never achieved what the goals it should have achieved in the first place. Americans are totally unaware that this is going on. Oh, because you don't see any of it. You don't want our farmers getting all up in everybody's grill. If our farmers really got mad, I mean, that would paralyze everything. Yeah, I don't think we're going to. I don't think that's going to happen. Okay, I have two pharma stories which I think are important. The first one is, this is, it's kind of a two-in-one story about depression and then about your immunity. And they both somehow can be measured in your blood.

1:57:42 On the Medical Watch, a possible blood test to diagnose depression. Our medical reporter, Dena Baird, joins us now with this novel idea. Dena. Ben and Lourdes, Johns Hopkins researchers say they're making progress toward a simple test for psychiatric and neurologic disorders. They used genetic material from human blood along with lab-grown brain cells. They say in the blood they could see disease-associated changes in the brain linked to postpartum depression and other disorders. Scientists say the footprints of brain cell-derived changes circulate outside the brain with a blood

1:56:47 Well, eventually, but the momentum is gone. You know, the momentum. Oh, yeah, we farmers go farmers. You beat him, farmers. Well, the momentum has never achieved what the goals it should have achieved in the first place. Americans are totally unaware that this is going on. Oh, because you don't see any of it. You don't want our farmers getting all up in everybody's grill. If our farmers really got mad, I mean, that would paralyze everything. Yeah, I don't think we're going to. I don't think that's going to happen. Okay, I have two pharma stories which I think are important. The first one is, this is, it's kind of a two-in-one story about depression and then about your immunity. And they both somehow can be measured in your blood.

1:57:42 On the Medical Watch, a possible blood test to diagnose depression. Our medical reporter, Dena Baird, joins us now with this novel idea. Dena. Ben and Lourdes, Johns Hopkins researchers say they're making progress toward a simple test for psychiatric and neurologic disorders. They used genetic material from human blood along with lab-grown brain cells. They say in the blood they could see disease-associated changes in the brain linked to postpartum depression and other disorders. Scientists say the footprints of brain cell-derived changes circulate outside the brain with a blood

1:58:17 draw, doctors say they can detect changes in gene activity inside the brain that indicate mental and physical diseases. So first of all, they talk about a lab-grown brain which is just kind of glossed over. What are we drinking there, John? Ah, today's drink is Origin Refreshing Sparkling American Spring Water. Ah, is it just spring water? There's nothing else in it? And it comes in a can? That's what it says. And it went pshh. Yeah, they didn't add any electrolytes. Is it carbonated? Because it went chh. I heard it. Yes, it is. It's sparkling. Sparkling. So I, this kind of accentuates what I think is bullcrap, which is that depression is your brain chemistry?

1:59:02 Oh, don't. It's nothing you can do. It's not how you're thinking. It's not the thoughts. No, it's your brain chemistry. And now they can measure that. It's not your brain being brainwashed. Yeah. Now they can measure that in the blood somehow. So that'll be even easier. Oh, oh, doc, I feel kind of depressed. Let me just prick your finger. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Good to go. Here's some medication. And then when you're depressed, well, that's really bad for your immunity. We've long known stress can hamper immunity and now doctors have figured out why. Mount Sinai researchers discovered stress increases an enzyme in the blood which travels to the brain altering the function of neurons. The hampered neurons lead to behavioral changes and reduced immune function. Study authors say knowing the mind-body mechanism they hope to target the protein to treat stress-related mental health as well as immune and nervous system diseases.

1:59:54 and they believe testing for the protein could help them identify patients in need of treatment. Sounds like a lot of expensive testing. Yes. By the way, so depression equals stress? I'd never heard that before. Yes, and that equals low immunity, which is why the shots didn't work. Don't you get it? Oh. Don't you get it? Yes, because you're stressed. I get it, I see it. You're stressed, you're stressed. That's why the shots don't work. Your immunity depletes. So you should probably have another booster. cancer booster. Covalent. Now, let's look at mRNA because there's a lot of exciting news about mRNA. We have, my goodness, cancer vaccines being trialed, a dawn of a new age of treatments. It's all mRNA. And Bill Gates, the gift who keeps on giving, he really, really let it all hang out in this one minute clip

2:00:55 As he admits, admits what we've all been thinking and talking about and been told was conspiracy theory about the lipo nanoparticles. You know, they, the lipid nanoparticles self-assembling and doing stuff to you. Nah, that's just conspiracy theory. Listen to how jacked he is about mRNA. Making the mRNA is really easy and really cheap. Woohoo! Really?

2:01:39 mess around a little bit with it. You know what, just put this, we've already been trying it for the past few years, you know, the COVID shots, so mess around some more. We can, you know, we just need to mess around. There's a lot of lipid nanoparticles and some are very self-assembly. There's no inherent- Whoa! So first he laugh tells, there's a lot of lipid nanoparticles. I mean, what, they're just in your desk drawer? Or does he mean in people already and their self-assembling already? You know, we just need to mess around. There's a lot of lipid nanoparticles and some are very self-assembly. And there's no inherent reason it's not thermal stable, it's not cheap, and it's not scalable. And so as over the five years we fix that part of it, mature it, which is very typical, we'll be able to build factories worldwide that can make $2 vaccines with even

2:02:34 less lead time than we've had to have here during this pandemic and we'll use those as you suggest For every disease that we don't have vaccines, we will try mRNA. In fact, for HIV, we have multiple ways. One that's more of a B-cell approach, one that's more of a T-cell approach. For malaria, we have multiple ideas. For TB, we have multiple ideas. And so to fill in the missing vaccines, we'll make a lot of our bets of the Gates Foundation and others who care about global health. will be mRNA focused. Yay! I recommend probably not taking it. Whatever he comes up with. And someone reminded me of a bill that has been in Congress, or it's not come to the floor, it's probably in committees, Senate Bill 596, which re-explains a lot of the

2:03:35 A lot of the push of the GLP-1, the semaglutide drugs, Wigovi, Ozempic, etc. It is called the Treat and Reduce Obesity Act, and it spells out that they want these drugs to be on Medicare. Yeah, because it's easy money. It's very easy money, and Novo Nordisk just bought the manufacturing company. That makes the injectables. Yeah. Now I heard on DH Unplugged that's one of the only companies that does that. I think that's what we discovered. 16 billion dollar acquisition. Not a slouch acquisition. No, it's a great acquisition. I have a... I don't know what this is.

2:04:33 It's probably good anymore. I've been COVID clips. Uh, no, no more clips. I just looking at if I had any other, um, any other, I have two weird offbeat clips that we can interrupt things with. Okay. I want the Rona is out false claim clip. The hold on a second. Rona is out false claim clip. Is this Amy? No, Amy, I do not have Amy today. In other political news, the chair of the Republican National Committee, Ronna McDaniel, has reportedly agreed to resign after coming under intense pressure from Donald Trump. McDaniel plans to step down after the South Carolina primary. Trump is reportedly pushing for Michael Watley, the chair of the North Carolina Republican Party, to become the new head of the RNC.

2:05:20 Watley is a prominent election denier who endorsed Trump's false claims about the 2020 election being stolen. Hold on a second. Okay. Hold on, I have a question. I got a question. Okay. If Trump can just make everybody vote no, including Chuck Schumer, I mean, why does he have to go through a whole weird... Can't he just call up and say, Rona, you're out? New lady you're in I mean doesn't have there's a bunch of people that have to vote her in or out They already he already tried to get her out like a year ago, and he couldn't do it. Oh, they voted her in again I thought it was powerful. Okay. No he's way is powerful enough to influence a couple of people, but I want him the reason I play this clip is because I want to reiterate the bad Journalism and it's done by all the networks. It's done by Amy's group and everyone else and

2:06:09 to use the term false claim. Yes. It's either a claim or it's not a claim. It's not, you can't have a false claim. You just, I claim, you know, you claim that the moon landing never happened. That's your claim, that's what you're, it's based on a belief of yours. It's not a false claim, it's a claim. It's science. What is a false claim? The word makes, or that phrase makes zero sense and it's only used to target the individual being, in this case Trump, to make him look like he's a liar, because they like to promote the idea that he's a liar. Well nobody even cares about

2:06:52 about Biden's, you know, talk about a liar. In fact, let's play Biden talking to Mitterrand. Last night, Joe Biden did his first campaign rally of the 2024 election in Las Vegas, Nevada. And during his speech, he claimed to have recently met with a French president who died. Hold on a second. Proper use of the word. Indeed. Proper use of the word. So you said they all do it. In fact, your claim was false. It was my claim. You claim that all journalists do this. No, I'm talking about... He didn't say false claim. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. You said all journalists use this false claim. Oh, he's not a journalist. He's a TikToker. Hello? Oh, TikToker. Much better than journalism. ...in Las Vegas, Nevada. And during his speech, he claimed to have recently met with a French president who died over three decades ago. Yeah, this guy is losing it.

2:07:55 Right after I was elected, I went to what they call a G7 meeting, all the NATO leaders. I was in the south of England. And I sat down and I said, America's back. And Niteran from Germany, I mean, from France looked at me and said, you know, how long are you back for? This is great. The sadness of that is that it's actually kind of a funny line and he managed to deliver it well. But Mitterrand, Mitterrand was dead. Well first he said Mitterrand was from Germany then he was from France. Yeah, which makes it even... But you know what they say, dead people start to see dead people or almost dead people. When you're about to die you see dead people. Maybe he's on the verge now, maybe he's seeing dead people.

2:08:50 He might be. He's been shaking hands on the podium with people that aren't there. Okay, here's one for you because this is something that you are an expert on. You do this test yourself from time to time, a quality. This is not just a quality but a quantity test and people are getting pissed off. McDonald's is acknowledging it's time to put affordability back on the menu and add more options to its dollar menu. Its stock took a hit this week after the fast food giant reported a recent drop in visits by its key customers who make $45,000 a year or less. And a lot of people have taken to social media to complain about it.

2:09:27 Joining us now is Vanessa Yurkavich. So Vanessa, McDonald's says with inflation cooling down at the supermarket, eating at home is becoming the more affordable choice for many here. People go to McDonald's because it's fast, it's reliable and it's affordable. And tasty. And for many Americans right now, they're saying that's just not the case. And that is because to buy groceries and eat at home, prices are only up 1.3 percent. Compare that to going out to dinner, 5.2 percent. But look at McDonald's prices. They have said that they've had to raise prices by 10 percent. This is great. This is fantastic. They're crazy. It's I mean and the quality is just crap.

2:10:14 It's getting worse. You really when's the last time you went don't you always go to try and eat a burger? I go quarterly I haven't I've got a I've got a visit coming I'm not sure when I'm gonna go But when I do I'll be reporting in but the hash brown one hash browns. Oh, how about you even try three dollars? Three dollars for you know, it's a potato costs. Oh, you can get three pounds for three dot more. Oh Yeah, you have hash browns for the rest of your life. But this, but you know, these are trends, you know, so the trend is going to be more eating at home. There's a cleansing and a shaking down. There's a whole bunch of, I didn't get, again, I didn't get clips on this, but I didn't think about it. There was a bunch of reports recently about, I think these are mostly played on Fox, on the fact that the Gen Z in particular don't go to bars.

2:11:09 They drink at home. And they're not gonna go to bars, because it's too expensive. As opposed to the Gen Xers, we used to do a kind of a show on MeVeo that was a Gen X show. I'd have all these Gen X and we'd talk about stuff, including their drinking habits, and they were all a bunch of alcoholics. Gen X. Or a bunch of drunks. But the Gen Z's, if they're drunks, no one's gonna know it because they stay at home. You can't... If you go out... I don't know when the last time you went out and had a drink. I went out to the Mallard Club for the meetup. A glass of wine these days... If you just want a glass of wine... Tina and I don't drink much. We'll each have a glass of wine. 30 bucks for two glasses of wine. No. Yes!

2:11:56 Now that you got ripped off, you must be going to your places you're going to are too expensive. Well, or is that Texas wine? They always overcharge for that stuff. We do. There's this there's this place that reopened called Friedland's, which is a German like Brothaus, a schnitzel house. Yeah, and that's fantastic. They give you an eight all German German town like Fredericksburg. I hope they have something like oh, yeah It's really good and it's really and that's affordable They do have these places and it's better ingredients the wine, you know, you just say you get a cabernet It's got some fancy name on the menu. I don't know where it's from. They bring it to in a big glass It's really heavy, you know, like the kind that if it falls over it'll never break. I

2:12:44 Even though it has a stem and German, yeah, it's $9. You know, that's that's more reasonable as an eight ounce pour. That's more reasonable for a restaurant wine. But yeah, yeah, I'd say everything is everything is unaffordable. The Uber's are unaffordable. I mean, it's what they call that inflation. Yes, that's what it is. Now, my last clip before we take a break. We talked during the pandemic and I'm pretty sure we put in the red book, I haven't been able to find a clip yet, I think we put it in the red book that people would probably never want to go back to work in office buildings.

2:13:25 You may have even... I'm sorry, in what? That people would not want to go back to work at the office. That they once... Oh, at the office, yeah. They'd rather work from home. Yeah, well, I think you even said no because I said, look at all this technology they're building. And Zoom exploded and Slack exploded and Microsoft Teams got used for everything. And now they just can't get them back. And commercial real estate, that's the big talk here. But by the way, let's stop and make mention here If you've worked from home, I mean, I've been a home office guy forever, but if you work from home and you enjoy it and you think you're productive and you're doing it during the pandemic and everything's going fine and you're getting your work done and everything.

2:14:09 Why would you want to go back to the office and why would they want you back in the office when you're doing just fine? I think there's a I think there's a in the brains of the home of the people that work at home and like working at home They don't understand why they should go back to the office when they know they're not as productive there agreed But it's a real problem because we do not have solutions for the commercial real estate Of course, nope. By the way, I think my prediction of Apple Vision Pro is coming true. This is exactly not this version. It'll take another version. This is exactly what people are living in their little home pods, you know, your little five by five house.

2:14:51 You know, with your bed in the living room. This is called a tiny home. Yeah, tiny home. This is what everybody's going to love. You know, just have your big monster house look bigger. Yeah, you have your big monster screen mirrors on the walls and put one of those glasses on. Boom, people think people think this is a dumb idea. This is a dumb product. I think it's a big winner. It'll be the next version. That'll be the big winner. This is, it's a winner. It's a winner. I don't like it. No, it looks horrible, but I think it's Google Glass all over it. It's better than Google Glass because it is, it's spatial computing. It's not VR, AR, MR. It's going to ruin your brain. Yes. How much more can we ruin? It's great. No, this is, this is, it's exactly what we need. This is the future of the work from home worker.

2:15:42 And everyone will be doing it, but the commercial real estate, I have no ideas for it other than putting the newcomers in there, which is probably the way to go. And our Secretary of the Treasury is kind of concerned. Yes, I do have a concern about commercial real estate. We discuss it in the FSOC annual report and FSOC has been quite focused on it. The banking supervisors have also been focused on commercial real estate and are working closely with the banks they supervise to discuss ways to manage and work with borrowers who have problems.

2:16:29 They are, in some cases, working to make sure that loan loss reserves are built up to cover losses, that dividend policies are appropriate, that liquidity is adequate, so the higher interest rate environment And in some cases, particularly the case of office building shifts in work patterns due to the pandemic. coupled with many commercial real estate loans coming due and needing to be financed, refinanced in a context where vacancy rates in some cities are quite high, is going to put a lot of stress on the owners of these properties.

2:17:26 The banking agencies are very focused in helping the banks manage through these situations. So you're concerned but not distressed? Yes, I mean, yes. I'm concerned. I believe it's manageable, although there may be some institutions that are quite stressed by this problem. Yeah, like those regional banks. That doesn't seem to be going too well again. Do you think they can keep it together until the collapse when Trump is in? As is our thesis. Oh yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. How do they do that though? How do you do it with the interest rates aren't being cut, so the refinancing is all coming up. You do these, there's tricks. Creative accounting, trickery. The banks, I don't know about New York's community is the big one that looks like it's gonna fail. Yes. Yeah.

2:18:23 But it can sneak through. New York community is the one they gave signature bank to and it was very interesting. Isn't that basically a bad bank? First they say, here take this, take that, take this and now live with it. Yeah, now they can't do they just make one bank take all the bad stuff and then blow that one. That's a pretty good trick. I like it. That's one trick. But the other thing is there is an issue with these. You look at these empty buildings are all over them and they were building a right through covid. you know, the skyline you could tell they were putting up bigger and bigger buildings. And New York is the one that, you know, if you remember, we discussed this, that storefronts are all, this was before COVID, the storefronts and they were buttoning everything up in New York and it was kind of half dead because they were holding out, the landlords were holding out for more money. So they were- For the flip, for the flip, for the flip.

2:19:16 And it never happened because COVID showed up and the next thing you know, these guys are stuck holding the bag of useless real estate, high-end real estate. Warren Buffett 10 years ago, I think he got out of most of it and told everyone to get into rentals. Well, so what's happening here on Main Street is rents went for a typical store. from $10,000 a month to $30,000 a month. Where in Fredericksburg? Yeah, stores are closing left and right. Why? Because the owners of these properties who don't live here, who just invested, they probably have to get more money to pay off the note. That's what I'm thinking. It's commercial real estate. It's the same issue. And the stores, they're like, nope. Except for the, there's this one store, and I think they're just money laundering.

2:20:17 It's like some Lebanese in there or something. I don't know what they're doing. I never see anyone in the store. Yeah, when I see a store that's always empty and it's big and they advertise a lot and there's nobody there. Yeah, it's money laundering. There's gotta be something. There was a clothing store. I can't remember. This was years ago, but I remember the place. Burwitz and I talked about it and then it turned out to be one in San Francisco that I went by and it was exactly like what you're describing. Nobody, a big store, nobody's in the place at all. And it has to be some sort of money laundering operation for the drug business. But we're seeing the same with

2:20:59 You know, we have 25% of our housing here is Airbnb, or it used to be B&B, let's just call it Airbnb. And people are having to sell those now because of the taxes. If you want to come to Fredericksburg, stay in an Airbnb, you have to take two nights. You can't just have one night, you have to take two nights. And before you know it, it's like two grand. It's like, no, go to Mexico, go to Mexico. Why would you come here? Yeah, this but I think this problem is everywhere right now. I think so too. I know it's a case in Port Angeles where Mimi is in the planning commission because they're trying to kill all the Airbnbs up there, even though they're run by people just on a fixed income. Yeah. And they there's no real reason for it. There's no no, this is no good. Can't have this in our

2:21:52 bustling town which is you know half dead anyway. All right one one one upbeat clip just before we take this break so we can just refresh our minds for a second get back to the op. Japan is just as Taylor Swift obsessed as the United States but you know it's not just about the fandom it's also the economic revenue. Experts tell us that Taylor Swift's four-day concert will generate more than 230 million US dollars for Japan. Now, the burning question that I'm sure is on both of your minds, also on my mind, will Taylor Swift make it back in time by Super Bowl Sunday to kiss her boyfriend Travis Kelce? Now, I'm no betting woman, but I'm gonna say with quite a bit of confidence that she will make it back in time.

2:22:37 It does not take time travel just a private jet which she does own And you know she kind of has to make it back for that Super Bowl because why else would we watch it? Am I right? Well, you're definitely right good. That is the burning question Phil has been bothering me about since 3 o'clock this morning will Taylor Swift Be able to kiss Travis Kelsey. I think about all he thinks about and I go. Thank you very much All right, here's my prediction. I might as well give it now. We can do it. We can talk about the football game. We do have another show before the football game. Yeah, but I just want to put it out there so I can get everything all everybody all jacked up. This is we are at peak swift. I agree. Could not be much higher.

2:23:19 She got her fourth, by the way, she got her fourth Grammy for best album of the year, topping, it's just an eye-roller. The Beatles! Well no, Stevie Wonder, remember that period of time where Stevie Wonder was winning and winning and winning? Stevie Wonder, the music genius, Stevie Wonder. I know, I know. And you can't even hum a Taylor Swift song. Stevie Wonder had so many hits. and the albums were killer and now she's okay well uh by the way she waltzes into the grammys during the show yeah with her fan with her with her with her entourage yes entourage yes and it was like what how do they allow this

2:24:03 Well, it's all a show. Did you see Olivia Rodrigo? That was the performance I was waiting for. Yeah, that's the Satanist. Olivia, the poor Satanist. There was a red dress rubbing blood over her face and her chest. Beautiful! Well done everybody. Well done. Well done. Yeah, perfect. I'm glad to see that they're still full-on dervish. Dervishness at the Grammys just beautiful. It was pretty good. Well, then of course the joke of the Grammys was Big Mike who came out and praised God Got arrested in a group as the way it was put he's praising God in a group of Satanists. Yeah, he got arrested immediately thereafter Whoa, that's right. Touch the third rail of the Grammys. You can't do that Big Mike. We all know this Poor Big Mike. Yes

2:24:56 So we're at peak Taylor, peak Swift. She has not adhered to the rule. When you seek out publicity for your own benefit, whether you're paid for it or not, it boomerangs. And it always, always. And so what I'm, what I'm feeling is Kels, is it Kels or Kelsey? Do we say Kels? I think it's Kels. It's Kelsey. Yeah, some people say Kelsey. Travis, Kelsey, whatever else they say, the family pronounces it Kelsey. The announcers who are professionals pronounce it Kelsey. It's Kelsey. We'll keep it at Kelsey. Kelsey will fumble the ball.

2:25:39 Yeah, it'll be picked up by the 49ers for the first time in my life. I'm gonna say go 49ers They will run it all the way for a winning touchdown And Taylor will get all the blame But they will hype Taylor and Kelsey by cutting to the aviation map showing, oh here she is, she's over the Atlantic, she's on her way. It's like Santa Claus. Yes, exactly. Norad will be reporting in if Taylor Swift is on her way and then they'll cut away to her. Just like with the Grammy, she comes in late, probably during the halftime show, they'll cut away. Who's doing the halftime show, by the way? Do we know?

2:26:18 Yeah, I know but I can't think of it. And then she will be blamed for the loss. Because she was a distraction. Yes, she'll have to sit down for a little while. She'll be okay. But what more could she achieve other than getting on Elon Musk's rocket and going to Mars? I mean there's not much more she could achieve. There is no higher... Well, she could achieve making a really good song. That would be an achievement. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you, the man who put the sea in Citizen Trump. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. Navarro. Good morning to you, Mr. M. Kerry. In the morning, our ships would see the boots of the ground, the feet in the air, the sons in the water, and the dames and the knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in that troll room. Hello, trolls. Hey, hey, hey, hey!

2:27:08 Oh my! 1742, bad trollage. It's Thursday, isn't it? Yes. Well the number's 1800 we're looking for, it's not bad at all. Well, but it's low, you're supposed to say it's low. It's only low 50. Okay, alright, well I felt it was a little low, I just, I saw the 17 number, I'm like, it's low. No, last Sunday's number was the low one. That was low low. Although a lot of people like, a lot of people liked last Sunday's show. Well, they may have liked it, but they weren't listening live necessarily. Oh, that's why. That's why. Well, trolls are here. Trolls are in attendance. They're just lowly. They're lowly trolls. Maybe they're just slow. You're all low. Low and slow. Most of the country's got bad weather.

2:27:53 So they should keep the trolls, but they're digging snow Maybe they're doing things that are more important than listening to the show live there you can listen to the show You know when they feel whether yes, yes, they feel like that's what podcasting is all about good point We love our trolls though because they keep us on our toes. They get us information They keep me very awake Because it's always scrolling by out of my peripheral vision, they're saying horrible things, you know. And I was like, JCD is a national treasure. Yeah, I was hyping you up. How's that a horrible thing? Well, they say that about you. That's a wise man or woman. That's bad. But for me, it's like, oh, Curry, you're full of crap.

2:28:33 I know it's like I'm a light. You know what we how you can prevent that By not watching looking at the troll. No the trot. No, you're always looking for the one-liners that somebody else writes. Yes, just fine That's what the pros. That's what I do. That's yes. Thank you. Thank you very much You can join the trolls at troll room dot io it is a live chat room. You can also get to it with an IRC client, one of the oldest technologies on the internet, which is still very valid. It is great because you can... Internet relay chat. You can sit in the internet relay chat all day. There are trolls logged in all the time. There may be some people who have died and are still logged in on the troll room. I believe this to be true. This actually could be true. You log in from a Unix machine at work and then forget about it and then you... Yeah, it's just still running. Died suddenly, died suddenly and you're still there.

2:29:26 You could be on a Linux, you could be in a virtual connection running through AWS on a subscription that goes on for a couple of years, you paid it in advance, and you could be in the IRC dead for years, literally. That's a great thought. I got to take a look at some of the login times for people who have been logged in the longest. Yeah, we better have somebody go buy their house. You can also get to this through a number of the modern podcast apps. Good news. Guess who's back on all the apps, including the modern podcast apps? Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. Oh, yeah, he's back now. His RSS feed was reactivated. And now you have no reason to use Spotify at all. No, I mean, there was never a reason in the first place. Yep.

2:30:25 And you'll recall that we declined to be on Spotify. We're not going to sign any rights away because that's what you had to do. You see, so sign this piece of paper. Nope, we're not going to do that. And I feel like we resisted and it was good. And now everybody doesn't need to default to Spotify. You can get Caller Daddy and Joe Rogan and your No Agenda show on any modern podcast app at modernpodcastapps.com, which also alert you within 90 seconds of updating of a show. And I'm gonna make sure that Joe gets on that program as well. People like that. Instead of waiting around like refreshing, is it up yet? Is it up yet? No. You'll get notified immediately. Same happens with our live shows. When we go live you get a notification. Value for value is how we have survived.

2:31:11 how we've been just getting by for all these years, 16 years. You've kept us alive, you've kept us going through your time, your talent, your treasure. Part of that time and talent is the troll room, which has been with us for 14 of those 16 years, I think, 13 or 14. That's void zero. He's just kept that alive and going and people do many things for us. It really is quite phenomenal the things that people do for the show, which is the polar opposite of what all the big money went to do. It's like, oh, we'll just take all this money and we'll hire people.

2:31:47 We'll hire executive producers and executive executive producers and then a boss for those executive producers and we'll make the programming will be great. It'll be just great. We're gonna have hits everywhere. We don't have a hit. Yes boy. Yeah, we don't have a hit. We have proven that being number one doesn't matter. We can survive and we survive with you. And it's also it's your boots on the ground reports. So many of them once again, I mean just amazing boots on the ground that people give us, give us information that edifies us on the world in general because everyone's an expert in something. When you hear us talking about something... We have so many experts that listen to this show, it's amazing. I mean how many emails did you get about the B1 bomber?

2:32:32 I got well, I only got two from super experts people that are actually in the field. Did you know that thing goes at Mach 2? Yeah, no, that's a fantastic product. I didn't know that. I didn't know it was called the bone though. The bone. Mach 2 isn't that the speed of the Concorde? Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't know that. And it was designed in 1970, I think is the fact. Well, the Concorde. I didn't know. High altitude. Yeah, that's true. The Concorde was back in the day too. High altitude, Mach 2. And it does not just carpet bomb, it does surgical strikes. So, see, this is the information that is very good for us. With that also comes, well, all kinds of cool things like the no agenda art generator.

2:33:16 This is what Paul Couture has put together so that our artists, another fabulous batch of people who deliver us their talent while they're listening live to the show. I mean that's really what is so amazing is that they put this together while they're listening live and we really have to thank Francisco Scaramanga for a fantastic, this was Top notch, top of the line, no agenda art to the T. Episode 1631, we titled that Pulling a Johnson, which went well with the G.I. Cho artwork. I mean, this of course was

2:33:57 One of the path to citizenship that we discussed on the previous episode, come in as a Chinese national and as long as you serve in a military for a couple of years you can get it be an American citizen and he had it down man. G.I. Cho had a little rice bowl there with his chopsticks. Didn't make it too racist, you know, had him kind of semi-Asian face I would say. Yeah, it wasn't just super slant-eyed. racist looking cartoon which you could have done but you didn't need to. No, it was brilliant. I really just a brilliant piece of work. It had a touch. It was fine touch. He put the 33 on the helmet, the American flag on the helmet which is a way to do it. The rice bowl with the chopsticks.

2:34:39 It is a piece of in the G.I. Cho with the Red Star of China in the middle. It was a very good everything in this piece said winner. Yeah. We looked at In the Wind by Darren O'Neill, who always comes in with something simple and AI generated. But that wasn't the winner. I thought Taylor Swift won't even listen to my podcast was cute. Little Psyop on the Prairie, cute, but the execution was, no, it wasn't there. Pandora's Pouch of Problems was cute, but no. The Gouda cheese talk, that was kind of it, wasn't it? We had a goat. Do we have a goat? Yeah, a goat screaming. What else do we have? Oh, the,

2:35:26 I kind of like the texting Iran. It just didn't weigh up against GI Cho, but the texting Iran was like a text message and it's from the US military industrial complex. Nothing is off the table. Don't make us turn you into sand. Respond. And then the Iranian flag replies, new phone. Who dis? That was cute. That was funny. We didn't understand the nice tats by pickle surprise, although cute, you know, no agenda heart. Yeah, I don't get it. No, didn't quite get that one. That was it. Pickled Surprise also did the goat. Yes. I like the goat. The goat's nice, but it wasn't gonna win. And Commissure Blogger, he just keeps on throwing out AI, hoping it'll win, which is not a bad idea. He does too many of the just generalized designs. Yeah.

2:36:22 We never picked that. I mean, sometimes for the newsletter, I'll pull one of those down when I need something, but it's not going to be a show cover. He wanted me to promote noagendagpt.com. Okay. So he's put together all these chat GPT projects so you can go and ask something about no agenda. Did it good? Well, yeah, that's the one that said that Ryan Seacrest had been running No Edge of the Solution. Which, the funny thing was, it had gotten that from a transcript which indeed said Ryan Seacrest, which was incorrect, which was AI. I mean, it's like this is garbage in, garbage out. Yeah, it is. And it's not going to get any better. No, it's the model, it's model collapse. It's going to start corrupting basic historical data. Yeah.

2:37:21 By iteration. Corruption by iteration. Show title, that's too long. Corruption by iteration is what's going to happen. It's going to take over the world with just corrupt data and information. We won't even know what date it is. We need a snappier phrase than corruption by iteration. We'll probably have to talk to the consulting arm about that. Well, you're going to have to think about it. I don't know if you can come up with anything better than that. We love to thank you. Thank you, artists. Thank you. Thank you to all the artists who participate. We give you the honest feedback because that's what you never get when you do jobs, certainly not spec jobs. No one was just it won't call you back.

2:38:03 They just don't call you. Why did my art fail? I don't know. They won't call me back. Which people on the Mastodon say, they're shitting on the artist man. No, no, no, no. We're giving you honest feedback. That's what we're doing. Those are amateurs. They don't know what they're talking about. Are you even on the Mastodon anymore? I don't see you posting. Do you post anything? Yeah, I post all the time. Really? I'm posting like a maniac. I haven't seen anything from you recently. You blocked me. I've not blocked you. I follow you. I follow you. I follow you. You're a creator and I follow you. I want to thank the people who deliver treasure to us. One of our three T's of value for value. And right off the bat, saving the day, Anna Muirhead from Rye, New York. No note that I could find

2:38:56 2000 this is fantastic Anna why did you not send us a note we want to thank you we want to know what's going on research I looked up Anna any every which way and I even went back I dug through the PayPal docs to find her donation to see if she had an offbeat email address and indeed she did so I you yeah that's how much work I did and so I looked it up at still nothing She's a baller, big baller. Baller! Shot caller, 20 inch blades, only in Paula. It's called baller, baller donation. So she will send us a note when she feels like it. That's the way I see it. Yes, I sure hope so, Anna. Thank you very much Double Up Karma for your lack of noteage. You've got Double Up Karma. And then Herbivore comes in from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for $350.93.

2:39:54 That's interesting. Yeah, I think there's a donation missing from this list. 350.93, thank you for your courage and pioneering efforts in Value for Value. We got inspired from what we saw in December, so we're doing a v4v Broadcast for our album release show on February 16th beginning today the album will be posted via Wave Lake in three batches over the next few days leading up to the show if you're stuck in the past on legacy apps You'll find you'll need to wait until it's the 16th otherwise find us on wave Lake

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2:41:11 Why why I and Z is that something that one of your terms? No, they're not one of mine That's what all the kids are saying yinz at the show or online. Thanks 350 93. Yeah, so people have figured it out They're looking at value for value. They're looking at the modern podcast apps and they're using it for their music exactly And they're promoting it on our show. Very good cliff reamer's ma Reamer's mom, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 34375 and he says I'd like a dedouche. You've been dedouched. And needs a relationship karma. I hope you're looking for one. You've got karma. Cliff. Or if you're in one, we hope it stays good. IP anonymously.

2:42:00 Was a good gag South Bend, Indiana 3 3 3 3 3 he wants yak and goat karma or goat karma But he sent a note in Interesting it was not just a note. It was it took up the whole PDF He is a bunch of photos. Well what he did is he opened his drawer drawer and Why don't you read it? Well, I'm gonna read parts of it because it's four or five pages long. He opens up his drawer. I have a problem saying drawer. Drawer. Drawer. Drawer. And he shows a picture and there's three playing, four playing cards, like, you know, cards, all with the face up, with the number up, and it's all threes. And he says, oh my gosh, all threes popped up.

2:42:49 He says four of a kind three three extra heart and then he went in and asked chat GPT about the significance of 333 And chat GPT said 333 is often associated with spiritual growth protection and divine presence interesting mathematics 333 dot 3 3 is the decimal representation of the fraction of 1 3rd. It's also I think an angel number and All kinds of, so he said, I had to donate! That makes total sense. And I think he added the fees for us. So the 333.33 plus the fees. No, I'm sorry, no he didn't. He just came out 333.33.

2:43:34 Yeah, that's a good note. And if that happens to you people see it the odometer they get a They get a bill they see a check number. They see a hotel room just when you see those threes You know, it's time to support the no agenda show and he wants some yeah, we got that for you. No problem. You've got karma Meanwhile, Zarin Denzel comes in from Port Townsend, Washington for 333, but there's no note or anything that I can find. And so he gets a double up karma. You've got. Karma. All right, then we have one in blue, which is always good news. Rich Whiskey Bravo for Echo Hotel Golf in Davie, Florida. 73 kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie on the VAR AC.

2:44:28 Our first associate executive producer, 2156, he says, I'm thrilled to finally become a knight after being a douche bag for too long. It's the highlight of my week when I get to listen to an entire show. Who knew retirement would be so busy? Noting that this show is a- this show number is a combination of 16, 2 to the 4th, 32, 2 to the 5th, this donation, 256, 2 to the 8th, my birthday is 4, 2 to the 2nd, 2, 2 to the 1st, and 1, 2 to the 0th, so please knight me as Sir Powers of Two protecting Davy, Florida. At the round table I'd like frozen Tito's vodka and Nathan's hot dogs with fresh buns. Is there any other kind of bun?

2:45:07 No jingles, only douchebag karma. We're gonna deduce... You've been deduced. And we'll give you karma. Thanks, Rich. You've got karma. So there's a note, there's one that got lost in the shuffle and I'm pretty sure it came in on time and I'm gonna just read it from the email. Okay. Yeah, this is from we did we get it or did we hold on a second? Sorry. I'm holding up stopping the show. Well, do we have to really stop the show? Never mind. It's something else. I'll keep looking. Let me go on. You just read Rich. Let's go to Ethan Moss. He's in Birmingham, Alabama. Two to two row of ducks, row of ducks on my thirty third birthday in gratitude for this fantastic podcast.

2:45:56 It's us. Yes. In the morning to both of you gentlemen and please dedouche me. You've been dedouched. Thanks for helping make sense. It's just amazing to me how many people are on their 33rd birthday that listen to this show. And when they... It's like a grouping around. When they started listening, they were 16. Thanks for the helping me make sense of all the madness. Biscuit for my birthday? Uh, let me grab one. I have them fresh from the oven. Here it is. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Boom. Oh, that's it. Zadok, Zadok, Zadok Brown III.

2:46:40 Macau, Hawaii, Rove Ducks, 2-2-2, deconstruction you guys provide is fantastic. Thought wonder if the, thought, wonder if these millions brought in are being digitized, they will be a component to new digital economy. What? What is he saying? Oh, the millions being brought in. I guess he's talking about the newcomers. I guess. If they're being digitized. Yes, yes, they will be, they will be tokenized. Yeah, that's all that's always got. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes So let's go to Gigawatt coffee roasters and I had I had a whole I ran out of my black rifle And it was in the mail because I'm on a subscription and I had one of the gigawatts very tasty Rivaled the black rifle I should say

2:47:41 Well, I would suggest people check out the Peaberry that they have, which is a... Peaberry's an interesting coffee bean. Let me read the thing and I'll talk about it in a second. Gigawatt Coffee in Bensonville, Illinois, 211.33. All producers should consider going to an NA meetup. It's good to get out of your comfort zone and break bread with strangers. You'll learn new things, exchange ideas, and who knows, you might even just make a new friend. A shout out to everybody who came to the Naperville, Illinois meetup last Tuesday. I'm looking forward to the next one.

2:48:19 Thank you, John and Adam, for creating this community of people with such wide-ranging views and backgrounds. Indeed. I'll take some OG Pelosi jobs, Carmen, in hopes of finding my next awesome employee. He's looking for one. Oh, looking for... Use the code ITM20 for 20% off your first gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy. Okay, so Peaberry... Wow, I'm glad you can get to the Peaberry, yes. Peaberry is, which always traditionally, it's like a midget berry and they call them peaberrys. It's like, you know, when you see the coffee bean, the bean is a berry, it's a bean. The bean is like half the size of a normal coffee bean. It's a little bitty thing. They used to be discarded.

2:49:06 Because they don't you know you want in the olden days when you went and had your coffee, but you want a big fat Healthy looking beans you didn't want these little minuscule beans, but it turns out when you make coffee from the pea berry Sometimes it's terrific tasting it tastes better And this has only been recently discovered by coffee people because they need to, I don't know, make more money. And gigawatt guys have some pea berries. People should maybe check it out. The more you know in the morning. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. All right. Sir Boober checks in with 20720 from Nevada, Iowa.

2:49:51 At ITM, I'm donating in honor of the fourth anniversary of my wife's passing. Oh, that was February 7th. Oh man, Sir Boober, I'm sorry to hear that. But we will say a prayer for her and think of her and for you. Can I please get an F cancer and a goat karma for everybody's health? Yes, you can. Thank you, Sir Boober. You've got karma. I have a message from my wife, who is a Nevada native. Nevada, Iowa? No, Nevada state. I don't know how they pronounce it there, but it's pronounced Nevada. Nevada. Nevada. And she says you keep pronouncing it Nevada and it makes her cringe. Me? Yeah. I say Nevada? Yeah, you just said it. No, but it's supposed to be Nevada.

2:50:45 Yeah, Nevada. And it makes her cringe? Yeah, when you say Nevada. I'm so sorry. Cringe. Nevada, from now on... She just told me to tell you. I got nothing to do with it. I don't care. She got my email. She got my digits. She can hit me up on WhatsApp. She can slide into my DMs. She fears that you'll chew her out. For anyone who knows Mimi, this is very funny. Benjamin Naitis is in San Francisco. He came in with $203.24. Failed to hit up the ATM and only put 30 into the envelope. He's talking about the meetup. He was at the meetup. So here's some more treasure to commemorate this date, second get John out of the house meetup.

2:51:32 Club Mallard was epic. The bartender loves us. Well, let's see, let me think why. Three o'clock in a Saturday afternoon when the place is normally three o'clock in a Saturday afternoon dead empty and now you have 40 customers who are giving tips and making, liven up the place. I wonder why. Anyway, so he says I had a wonderful time chatting with Uh, Jay's fiancé. That's Brennan. Brennan, yeah. Yeah. Very good. Sir Crystal Ball, Dallas, Texas, 20202. Love that. Just an overdue value for value donation. Thanks for what you're doing, Sir Crystal Ball. Thank you very much, Sir Crystal Ball. We appreciate that. That leads us right to Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. Coincidence? I think not. $200. Jobs calmer for everybody. And for a competitive edge, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's imagemakersinc.com.

2:52:33 Or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list. Someone hit me up on the mastodon and said, how come you haven't damed her yet? I think she refuses. I don't know what if she wants to be damed, she has to ask for it. I think we have asked. We just don't do it automatically. No, I think I think we have said, hey, isn't it time she could be way beyond a dame by now? She's probably barren. Barronette. Yeah. So Linda Lou Patkin, we'd love to bring you up on the podium. Or Baroness, it would be Baroness. Baroness would be perfect. Here it is. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2:53:12 Well, thank you executive and associate executive producers for supporting the No Agenda show episode 1632. Goodness. Oops, didn't mean to hit that one. This is what I meant to hit. Here we go, John. Get ready to sing. Donate. To No Agenda. Yeah, baby. This is going in your brain. To send your friends or use. No agenda donations There you go, you can support us at no agenda donations calm we certainly appreciate everyone who comes in under $50 We don't mention those we do do time and place of everyone between 250

2:53:55 And of course if there's a karma in there, we'll handle that as well. We really appreciate it the executive and associate executive producers These are credits that are valid forever. You can use them on your LinkedIn You can use them on your resume go to IMDB comm if you don't have one of those most people don't open it up They're completely valid and if anyone questions these credits, let us know we'll vouch for you John take us through to 50s Yeah, Rita Harrington, our buddy at the top of the list in Sparks, Nevada, I think she is a dame. $166.33. Ruben Schwebel in Tampa, Florida, 133. He says the last show was the best show ever. Oh, 100%. 100%.

2:54:41 Bruce Schwalman, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 12345, Russell Rhoades, 10641. It's a birthday for his son Vikram, Vikram, Vikram, Vikram? Vikram, yeah. Fresh Tech, LLC. in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I'm guessing, or Refresh Tech, I'm guessing that, Refresh Tech, I'm guessing that is a networking company. Dave at Elkhart, Indiana, 100. He needs a de-douching. He calls it remedial since he's given before. Jacqueline Lentz in Muskego, Wisconsin, 100. Pat Sullivan in

2:55:24 Sturgeon County, Alberta, Canada, 100. Eric Adler in Punta Gorda, Florida, 8008. Megan Reitsch in Boise, Idaho, 8008. And boom, Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 8008. Don't be a boob. Save one instead. Donald, I'm sorry, Arwin Schulte in St. Albans, Great Britain, 75. Donald Thompson, 73, 73. Dame Jen in Boise, Idaho, 66, 11. Just the dangling balls and double dicks donation that Christie started on Sunday. Oh here they come here. They come we'll see we'll see if it catches on it'll catch on by the ladies. Yeah, yeah like it Michael's yes, I Cora in New Richmond, Wisconsin 6006

2:56:16 A call out to Craig, Sakura and Kim Sachs as douchebags. DOUCHEBAG! Craig and... DOUCHEBAG! You got it, Craig and Kim. Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado, 6006. Spencer Pollack in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 6006. That's a switcheroo there. Please credit to his smoking hot wife, Guantanamo Bay. And add her to the birthday list, even though I don't see that she's on the yellowed out here. Let me check. She may be missing from the birthday list, which would be the first flaw that we have on the spreadsheet. I think I'm going to put her on. No, no, no. Guantanamo Bay. I'll put her on. There you go. Sir Ladyboy in Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey, A6006. That Dame Stitchy Woman, Rogersville, Alabama.

2:57:11 60 and we got a birthday coming up for someone. Charles, my back, my Bach, M-I-E, Bach. And vintage, vintage, Wantage, Wantage, New Jersey. Can't get this one right. No. 5833, birthday donation. That's on the list. I need to use a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 58. Eric Hulse in Richmond, Texas, 5727. Christine Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire, 5555. Michael Gates, 5280.

2:57:50 Scott Evers in Venus, Texas, 52. John Foley in Chicago Heights, Illinois, 52. Stripe test, I don't know what that means. Test received. He tested Stripe. He tested Stripe and it works. Oh, it's Stripe. Okay, yeah, that is a Stripe donation. Sir Anonymous Cop in Redwood City, California, 51, 50. MWG in Louisville, Kentucky, 51. No, that's Maxine Waters Gravel who's back, needs a de-douche. You've been de-douched. Good to have you back, Maxine Waters Gravel. The last of these are all $50 donors. I'm going to do name and location starting with...

2:58:35 Alex Zavala in Kyle, Texas and Michael Labarre in Williamstown, Michigan. Alexandro Wynka in Neosho, Wisconsin. He's de-douching. You've been de-douched. Kristen Dougherty, New York City, is wishing a happy birthday to her smoking hot boyfriend. Bubbs. Bubbs. And wants a biscuit. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. There you go. Matthew Smith in Colchester, Suffolk, UK, 50. Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island, 50. Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Liberal, Kansas. Justin Cruz in Tehachapi, California. Robertson Holm in Flint, Michigan. Stephen Ray in Spokane. Edward Mazurek in Memphis.

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3:04:49 Well, you heard a nice donation note earlier. No agenda meetups, not just a diverse group. But you can meet people who you don't know from social media. These are people who listen to the show. And you can just hang out with them. You can have a good time. You can talk about the state of the world. You can talk about love, you can talk about politics. It's all good. No one gets triggered. It's all fine. This is what's so nice about it. Here, I'll give you an example. Here's a report from Northwest Houston. Hi, this is Economic Hitman. We're here having the eighth Northwest Houston No Agenda Meetup. It's been great. I can't believe so many people came and I just feel so blessed. In the morning, this is DM Shanarkey reminding you that connection is protection and taxation is theft.

3:05:36 This is Sarah Joyner from Fort Worth coming up to Houston to see what all the fuss is about. In the morning this is loca. Get crazy people. In the morning this is bad. In the morning, Sir Keeper Vox. Hey it's Andy Jane and I just wanted you to know that Rolando is not from Dallas. He's not here tonight but he is from H-Town. ITN, it's Lady Vox, Dame of the Gateway. Thank you for your courage and thank you for inspiring this fine community. In the morning! little bit. And also yes, I misidentified Rolando Gonzalez being from Dallas. He is from Big H, absolutely. Here's what's coming up. Nothing today, but on Saturday we have NO Agenda Local 512 Bring Your Valentine Meetup. This is the big Valentine's Day meetup. Doc's Backyard, Sunset Valley, Austin, Texas. Of course, Baron Scott of the NO Agenda Armory organizes that with his beautiful wife and they have a good time

3:06:45 Go join him, y'all. Also on Saturday, you can't spell Aquarius without an AI, Age of Aquarius 230 at Castle Island Brewery in Northwood, Massachusetts. Sir Nathan Lee Miller Foster, chaotic good knight of the White Lodge, blue orchid of the Good Heart Mountaintop Queen Directory, elf stone and bearer of the sword Reforged, will be hosting that, and there will be a test of his name. Arlington, Virginia, new location for their meetup at five o'clock on Saturday. The Renegade in Arlington, Virginia and Surf Soiree will be taking place on Saturday at five o'clock. Now this is in Portland, Oregon. You have to RSVP special details. So who knows? It could be a very fun little meetup.

3:07:30 There's plenty more to see at noagendameetups.com. Thank you, Sir Daniel, for keeping that together. Thank you for Mimi for always keeping the list updated. And thank you all for joining the No Agenda Meetups. You can't spell unity or community without unity and connection is protection. Noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. It's just like a party everybody like a party now to the part that everybody loves so much or we try and figure out which end of show I so we will be using what do you I'm not hopeful today you know well then you go first since you're not hopeful

3:08:28 Don't look. Don't look at my butt. Okay, little little soapy in the audio. Don't look at my butt. Very funny. Wow. Wow. Wow. You're big on the wows these days. Wow. Wow. I like the sound of it. Let me see what I've got here. I've got true fans keep it real. That's too that's not good. How about this one? Thank you so much. Nice meeting you. Kind of like that one and... Thank you guys, y'all have a great one. I like that one. Yeah, I do too. Let's go with that one. Thank you guys, have a great one. Okay, yeah, we'll go with that one, no problem. Good news, good good news, good news, good good news, good news. That's right, good news. We always end the show with some good news so that you're all up and happy as you go into the next few days without us. We know it's tough. John scours the internet.

3:09:27 to wait for Mimi's email when she sends the actual good news clip. What do we have? There are actually a lot of people sending them in. Of course. Well, this one here I have to talk about a little bit after it's over. Okay. This is a little girl saves her sister. I was scared. I was like, what's happening? I was... really just about an arm's length away from my car. Adam Jorgensen says he went to grab a cloth to dry off his vehicle after a car wash when someone asked him for directions. Then suddenly I heard the screeching of our tires. The car was gone with his daughter's two year old autumn and eight year old Charlie in the back seat. He told me to get out of this car.

3:10:17 I was like, oh, what should I do? Should I run and be a scaredy cat or should I save my sister too? Charlie telling our affiliate WTMJ she knew her dad had the keys, not the carjackers, and she decided to stay put. The driver ditched the car and the kids at the Batteries Plus store about a mile down the road and Charlie acted fast, her little sister panicking. Grabbing her dad's phone from the front of the car and calling her mom, leaving this message. Their dad back in quick trip frantically on the phone with police.

3:11:00 All right, but you guys have my kids. The incident reflecting a bigger trend in carjackings, rising 17% from 2022 to 2023 in nearby Milwaukee and nationally carjackings up 93% from 2019 to 2023, according to a new Council on Criminal Justice report tracking rates across 10 U.S. cities. Back in Oak Creek, the police department said it took three suspects into custody and is seeking felony charges this week. Now a family reunited. I ran as fast as I could out of the back of that cop car to hug them. Hoping others will learn how quickly things can go wrong. Remember you won't bother drying your car? Ah yes, we'll dry the car at home now as well. Yep. That's right people, law enforcement doing their job. Good job. I call bullshit. Oh, you do? I think this whole clip is a hoax. A hoax?

3:11:53 Oh no. What makes me think that? What makes you think that? One, we have a recording of the little two-year-old saying, where's daddy, where's daddy? Where'd they get that recording? There's the car rigged with microphones? Second, we have a recording of the eight-year-old's phone call to mom saying daddy's been, is missing. Who's recording that call? Does mom have a recorder on the phone? Where did that, where did that little clip come from? And then to say that the eight-year-old knew that daddy had the keys while the guy's driving off, that's the last thing that would be on a kid's mind. The thing was to promote the little message, and by the way, this on the Halleys News thing on NBC, this is an NBC clip. I think it's notorious for phoning up stuff. And so then meanwhile, there's the whole thing, it was to promote this data, because right in the middle of it, there's like an advertorial about carjackings and how they've gone up so much. I find that this is, I think this whole clip has been staged.

3:12:54 Let's review the rules of the good news clip. It's supposed to make you feel good, and now you just made us feel bad. I didn't make anybody feel bad. It's still a cute clip. No, it was... I felt good until you just said it was all bogus and I love the cute little kid and you just made me feel horrible. Okay, well I'm sorry that'll never happen again. You better believe it won't happen again No deconstructing the news the good news no deconstructing good news even though It's a hoax my NBC no sex in the champagne room no Deconstructing the good news clip. I just want to go out happy and now I'm I'm depressed you can see it in my blood jeez

3:13:44 Well, luckily we will get a booster. Luckily, we'll be back on Sunday where we'll end with a very good news clip. Which will make you happy and feel good. Feel good. Coming up next on noagendastream.com or a modern podcast app, we have DH Unplugged. It's the AI market euphoria, episode 689. See who's closest to the pin. Before we get to that though, we will have our end of show mixes from Stefan, Steve Atwell and Jesse Coy Nelson. Some classics and some new ones in here. And coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6,

3:14:26 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain is nice and sunny. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday. Please join us, won't you, for another three hours of deconstruction but not the good news clip. Remember us at dvorak.org slash na noagendadonations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and such. You talked about using some of Trump's money that you're about to get. Do you know what that might be, what that might look like. Yes, Rachel. Yes. I have such great ideas for all of you.

3:15:01 I'm gonna do this much first thing Rachel you and I go shopping New shoes motorcycle for crawling new fishing rod for Robbie Rachel No Although if me fishing in France could do something for women's rights, I would take the hint. I would obviously take one for the team.

3:15:39 As if you need persuasion in that regard. There it is. It's on? Yes, it is. When President Biden comes to the North Country, he comes to belittle people. Can you believe it? It's great to be home! Folks look over a period of time we stopped investing in them and now back this new this new event had me a lot of work. It's stunning that we've gotten to this point. No I'm not joking I'm not being deadly earnest. It sounds like I'm making this up. That was here two years ago. Not a joke. We've already invested 6.1 billion dollars and that's on top of another billion dollars 1.1 billion in your state 2.5 billion

3:16:25 $1 billion. $200,000. $1 billion. $50 billion. It matters, for real. Not a joke. You know, and we have interest every year. Guess what? We're in benefit. But you know what? That's okay. You know, it sounds like it doesn't make it, it doesn't matter. It matters a great deal. And guess what? No matter how many drugs you have to take, that's our economic plan. You may have heard me harp on this for a while. Not anymore. And guess what? It affects the ability of the brain to function. Oh, Earth Rider, thanks for the great letter. And we're now back to some music. You just needed a lot of work. I'm not joking. I'm not. It sounds like I'm making this up. I was told that that's an awful thing to do, man. And guess what? Look, for my entire career, I have been the best in the world. And you pay for it. Not a joke. General's got

3:17:21 This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years. When I first came to office, one of the first meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals. Bolden has always said let's go to war but he's not the one who's gonna go on the forefront. He's a coward. The leaders of Iran are racketeers. Behind every problem is Iran. They heard what you said in 2016 and liked it when you said no more stupid wars.

3:18:12 We've got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these uber-hawks that thirst for another war with Iran. International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal. If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again. I'm not somebody that wants to go into war. In the United States, heading towards another Middle East showdown, this time with Iran. Let's have a war so you can go die! Let's have a war!

3:18:55 The best podcast in the universe! Thank you guys, y'all have a great one!