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00:00 We get a lot of fans helping us out. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. Thursday November 2nd 2023 this is your award winning Give My Nation Media Assassination episode 1604 This is no agenda Your personal large language model is broadcasting live From the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6, In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we say well wishes to Bruce Bochy and the Texas Rangers! I'm John C. DeMora. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill...In The Mornin'! Yeah yeah Texas did something

00:38 What did they do? We did good at sports ball. Sports ball, we rule with sports ball! Now I was for the Astros of course were supposed to be for the Astros here and then they got kicked out by the Rangers now the Rangers are... They won the World Series who else from the world is in the World Series Well, the players are international. Oh OK. Were there any Japanese players? Not on the Rangers that I know of but there's plenty of Japanese players and in fact the best player not to belabor this conversation... No at all! But here we go. The best player in the major leagues is actually a Japanese dude who both pitches and he's a big home run slugger Didn't didn't did a Japanese team win one year somehow I remember this

01:34 Yeah, I saw. Yeah they did the Japanese came over and they won yeah didn't they win the World Series at some point? Yeah The Tokyo Giants I think oh Yeah there's a contradiction The Tokyo Giants uh-huh That is the name of an actual team now i'm sure it is Okay, yeah now I believe you when it comes to sports You are the authority on the No Agenda show I just add color which I think I do well Of course they could. They're the Giants, but I think they're from Tokyo and now i'm thinking second guessing myself But has an American ever won the sumo championships is the question? Well there's been some Americans Samoans who were kind of American I think there was a Samoan Kind of America Pre-Americans They were kind of here yeah It's mostly Manchurians right now that are winning this sumos

02:36 Well, all that aside I know you have a couple of clips so we might as well just get into it because we have to dive in deep because no one in media and I mean absolutely no one has done a good job at this. New presidential order on artificial intelligence setting national rules on the rapidly growing technology that has big potential but also comes with risk. Our senior White House correspondent Selena Wang has those details for us. Morning, Robin. The White House is calling this the strongest action that any government has taken on artificial intelligence safety and security today the president signing an executive order that would require developers working on the most powerful AI models to share their safety test results with the government before releasing their products to the public it also includes developing standards for ethically using AI and for detecting a generated content in labeling it as

03:30 if isn't just America's problem but that the US needs to work with the world to set standards here. Yes, yes we're so good at working with the world! We need to work with the world. That was the worst report I've heard so far. Who is this woman? She's some woman for Good Morning America. The best report who really was Deutsche Welle you know because it's not just

04:10 The executive order it comes just a few days before the big summit in in the United Kingdom at the home of the code breakers. Yeah that's where I get my clips from this this one from Deutsche Welle kick, It really killed me so one of the godfathers of AI Joshua Bengio is here and he said... Who? Jezai Bengio! One of the Godfathers! He's a good father A godfather? So one of the godfathers of I.I Joshua Bengio is here and... This lady by the way, I don't know what kind of assignment she got but her hair is just... this blonde lady it's like she didn't do her hair this morning

04:51 It's just not a good look standing out from that English countryside home, home of the code breakers. He said that in the future artificial intelligence could help spread misinformation quickly, destabilize democracy but also bioweapons can basically be built by people at home so that... Bioweapons! will help people build bioweapons at home in your kitchen sink. A really massive risk involved and Richard Sunak has assembled these tech brains from across the world, delegation from China we're hearing is here and all the major Western democracies and tech entrepreneurs to actually

05:36 come to a baseline, a guardrail really. Where are the most extreme risks from artificial intelligence and where should governments... what can governments do about it? What can international bodies do about it? So, before we get to your clips from the UK. President Biden did this big ceremony of very long speech about all kinds of other things before he got to the AI executive order and oh Kara Swisher Scott G were there because you know they're AI influencers it's very important that they can invite how can we never get invited to the White House?

06:17 We're influencers. You should have been invited by Trump! Yeah, fat chance... So this is really what it comes down to for the president or whoever is in charge of him It's all about the elections and deepfakes and he- In this 26 second stand up He kind of said it all. It's already happening AI devices are being used to deceive people Deep fakes Use AI-generated audio and video to smear reputations, speak for spreads fake news and commit fraud. With AI fraudsters can take three second... And you all know this. Three seconds recording of your voice I've watched one of me on a couple panels. I said when the hell did i say that?

07:06 How would he know? Exactly. We laugh about the stuff that is real, in fact someone sent me that clip and said here's an obvious deep fake of Biden talking about deep fakes like no he actually said that but just before we get into it I think it's actually now because I read this whole executive order have some things to say about it later It's actually a great way to, if you have control of it. It's a great way to use AI's misinformation to cover up actual facts I will give an example because this is something that came across from France 24

07:51 Now, you are I would say between the two of us certainly but you're quite skilled at being able to tell if someone is using cocaine on a regular basis. Am i right? I mean that's... Yeah yeah well yeah now Zelensky Yes it has been your assertion from many videos that President Zelenskiy is probably a cokehead correct And if you talk to Ukrainians, they all think he is too. So I'm not alone in this. So if you want to debunk it... All you have to do is say, oh that's a deepfake AI. Sienna Lee reporting for us there Well it's time now for our daily fact-checking segment on the program Daily Fact Checking! Truth or Fake and for that I'm joined here with... Wow what an imaginative title truth or fake? We've been playing truth or fake for about five years

08:45 No, we haven't been... Don't mock the title of Weaver on this for a while. We don't actually call it truth or fake. No that's what they say France 24 has it that's what they call I have no idea why they call it that is dumb Or fake and for that I'm joined here in the studio by Catalina Marchand-Diabru Thanks for joining us on the program today were talking about Ukraine as you often do Catalina And President Zelensky he's been accused of drug addiction problem so true or fake? You're a fake! Talking Ukraine, yes. We're going to address certain rumors on social media claiming that President Zelensky is addicted to cocaine. Co-cane? You'll notice she switches back and forth between cocaine and then she's just like coke! Coke! By pro Russian accounts Oh it's pro Russian accounts this deepfake so this is how you do it...you get your actual deepfake ready you put that out there because man dude

09:43 Volodymyr, man. Stop tooting so much! Now we gotta go debunk that. Boys let's get a deep fake out there? Okay... Let's just put it on some Russian accounts. ...to cocaine and we will disprove these claims made by pro-Russian accounts starting with this video from April 23rd where we can see an alleged pile of coke and a credit card on it such an alleged pile of coke, she forgot to say cocaine. Skeptical users on a social media notice that the credit card has strange halo to it and hence claimed that it was digitally altered And we can confirm indeed that this video was digitally altered indeed. Oh here We have a Elliott Higgins who made a split-screen Video version of the altered video and the digitally altered one they didn't even do this work They're just grabbing someone else's

10:54 You know, I'm liking this thesis of yours. Thank you for giving me all kinds of ideas Yes, because what did what they're doing? This is very interesting it dimensionally when it comes to deconstructing something They're taking stuff that's obviously done as a joke, and that particular video was a joke because everyone knows he's a cokehead. So some joker put this on there and they're using that to debunk the fact that he is a cokehead! Not that that video is fake but the whole thesis that he's a cokehead is bullcrap when in fact it's not

11:32 So they're taking, this is very interesting. And this is exactly where this is gonna go what you just said which is that they're going to use joke stuff and that's not even a deep fake it's just somebody doing some video Tom foolery Yes! Which is the most you could call it Putting the pile of coke on his desk. By the way, the pile of coke was huge Yeah, so you know it wasn't done as a gag But it wasn't done as a gag You know out if you know just out of the blue because somebody thought I was funny Just because he's a coke head and they thought it would be funny to point it out exactly exactly now

12:16 And I have one more and then I want you to play your clips because i'm going to set it up. Because if we have this, we just heard the smartest minds in tech The brilliantest people! This is the house where the code breakers were Alan Turing was here...this is the place this is the Mecca the origins of AI! And who do you send? Kamala Harris! The US Vice President, Kamala Harris has challenged governments around the world to come up with a common set of understandings on artificial intelligence in a speech at a global gathering on the issue in England. I know you send her well everyone knows but yeah but what do you suppose for a common what? Of understanding

12:56 The common what? Let's listen again. Artificial intelligence around the world to come up with a common set of understandings on artificial intelligence A common set of understandings set of understanding. What does that even mean? I think it means definitions and i'll get into that after your clips. In a speech at a global gathering on the issue in England, Harris said countries needed to address the full spectrum of the risks posed by the new technology. She said a new US institution could act as a model for others to test the safety of AI and she added that now is the time to take action and ensure that artificial intelligence is safe for the future

13:38 Just as AI has the potential to do profound good, it also has the potential to cause profound harm. Notice how they rarely say what the good things are? It's only, oooh scary! From AI enabled cyber attacks at a scale beyond anything we've seen before. Cyber attacks at a scale beyond anything we've seen before like denial of service? What's the mechanism for AI creating the biggest cyber attack that we've ever seen when we've seen some whoppers Yeah, we've seen some really good ones yeah and by the way most hacks are

14:18 Human hacks, psychology hacks not-not cyber. Alright let's go. To AI formulated bioweapons. Woooo! AI is going to put a bioweapon together. Has there even been one? No! That could endanger the lives of millions of people. You mean like COVID-19 that our own government developed?! Is it gonna be that bad or worse? I think so. Threats are often referred to as the existential threats of AI. Well, often referred... John we got us get on board with this We have to get onboard with the often referred to existential threats from AI

14:54 That means we're gonna die from AI. Because of course they could endanger the very existence of humanity. Oh, of course! Of course! He just says it so cavalierly... Of course! These threats without question are profound and they demand global action Without questions? Stop questioning me Well as the US Vice President called for urgent action from threat from AI, Britain published what it says is a landmark declaration aimed at boosting global cooperation to ensure the safety of artificial intelligence. The declaration agreed by 28 countries including the U.S and China was presented on the opening day of the first ever Global AI Safety Summit which takes place in the UK

15:40 The British government says the Bletchley Declaration will act as a starting point for global conversation on the issue. Speaking to BBC, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said monitoring the risks posed by artificial intelligence was too important to be left to big tech firms alone. I'm sick of these declarations so now they have the Bletchley Declaration... We need a declaration! We did our own declaration. We call it the Podunk Declaration or whatever. No, we have to give us something that's a cool name not podunk. Well okay now it's the Bletchley Declaration. We'll come up with something and they affirm...affirm that while you have to affirm everyone has to come over the declaration and we have to affirm when it has began with we affirm

16:27 Whilst, whilst you got to put whilst in there. These are good terms whilst Safety must be considered across the eight- I think Fredericksburg is a good name for a declaration. Yes! Berkeley's also not bad No no no The Berkeley Declaration? No no no it sounds too late You're right immediately sounds like some sort of communist thing. Fredericksburg sounds kind of Nazi. It's kinda Fredericksssberg Declaration! Yes okay so whilst Safety must be considered across the AI lifecycle. Actors are in this! What are actors doing? I thought they were on strike. This shouldn't be working. Actors developing frontier AI capabilities, in particular those AI systems which are unusually powerful and potentially harmful... They make it sound like terrorists are using this stuff

17:19 have a particularly strong... To do what? To do drawings? I don't know. To write long essays? Look, here's six fingers! have a particularly strong responsibility for ensuring the safety of these AI systems, including through systems for safety testing through evaluations and by other appropriate measures. We encourage all relevant actors to provide context-appropriate transparency and blah blah blah." So here's it comes down to these two points in the context of our cooperation... What are you reading from? I'm reading from The Bletchley Declaration! Oh okay Yeah, come on. I mean this is a declaration! I like reading declarations

18:01 No, it's like the Declaration of Independence. I do declare this way it should start! No we affirm that whilst in the context of our cooperation and to inform action at the national and international levels our agenda for addressing frontier AI risk... It's frontier AI risk? We'll focus on two points identifying AI safety risks of shared concern building a shared scientific and evidence-based understanding of these risks which we did not hear and sustaining that understanding as capabilities continue to increase in the context of a wider global approach to understanding the impact of AI in our societies.

18:41 That was written by Chad GPT, there's no doubt about it. And two building respective risk-based policies across our countries to ensure safety in light of such risks collaborating as appropriate while recognizing our approaches may differ based on national circumstances and applicable legal frameworks this includes alongside increased transparency by private actors developing frontier AI capabilities appropriate evaluate... What is this frontier thing? Oh crap! You know you might be right because I took this Bletchley thing and listening to all the clips about in the clips. I brought As a drinking club cuz they went up to this, you know said it's a and they keep talking about how pretty it is It's idyllic We're in a dillick blitch Lee And there's and it's a bunch of losers and they're all it's a drinking club and I wouldn't be surprised if as a joke Cuz I would do it

19:33 Let's have chat GPT write the declaration. We'll have it write a Bletchley Declaration Exactly, let's play your clips I got some more after that all right This is kind of a rundown with they don't go anywhere of course because nothing really comes of any of this stuff It's just a bunch of ninnies running around with their hair on fire. But let's start with clip one delegates from 28 countries, including the US and China gathered today at a bucolic English country estate they gathered to sound an alarm about AI artificial intelligence They pledged to work together to contain what they call the potentially catastrophic risks posed by this technology. Well, NPR's Lauren Frayer has been covering this two-day summit of politicians and tech CEOs. Hey there, Lauren! Hi! I want to start with a very basic question when we say they're gathered they're talking AI

20:26 What do they mean? What has them so worried that they've all come together. Yeah, so there's a lot of like talk about existential threats and the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has actually said he's literally worried about humanity losing control of computers delegates are talking about the role of AI in bio weapons cyber attacks making the global financial system go haywire threats to democracy but And AI is also stuff that you might be familiar with. Language models, things like ChatGPT, Google Translate and also tools that your bank may be using to evaluate loan applications. Read your medical records. Vice President Kamala Harris is in town for this summit and she gave a speech today at the US Embassy in London where she gave some real world examples. Consider for example

21:15 when a senior is kicked off his health care plan because of a faulty AI algorithm. Is that not existential for him? Oh, goodness! Existential for him... Of course I cut it there because she's annoying. Because she's an idiot Now this has happened with just casually this happens all the time This has nothing to do with AI No it's a stupid algorithm that's already in use So some guy got kicked off his health care plan, he has to go through a rigmarole to get it. That's like losing your credit score being off because of whatever or somebody stealing your identity. None of this has anything do with AI It's real world issues that have been going on forever and now it's just gonna be easier to blame it on AI Yep

22:01 So anyway, so this is the NPR report that I thought they handled it kind of lightly like they were taking it too seriously and they were more interested in the fact that there's bucolic to be out there and bletchley which isn't you know You go to these places. There's plenty of them in the English countryside And they have meeting meetings in them I've been through more than a couple when I was writing for PC magazine UK and And it's gorgeous, you know? You go in there and it's just these beautiful places. And that's the drinking club. You know what you can hear there? A Russell in the hedgerow! All right, number two. So she talked about people being victimized by deep fakes like fake explicit photographs or even thrown in prison because of biased AI facial recognition software bias. She talked about the need to regulate all of that stuff without stifling innovation. That's the challenge. OK? So we've got the American vice president there are the British prime minister, Prime Minister Sunak everybody talking about it

23:02 I guess the question that's always hanging over this is what can they actually do? What are they going to do? Yeah, so they can issue a joint declaration which they did today. But you know there is no global regulatory body. There's nothing binding here. This summit is a success in terms of just bringing these people together and it goes beyond politicians. I consulted an AI expert Nina Schick and she says a major role is going to have to be played by U.S. tech companies Who was this Nina Schick When did when did she come on the scene? Nina, we got another one. Primarily because the knowledge in terms of what is actually happening, how are these systems built or what's under the hood who can understand them is not going to come from government alone industry needs be a part of this conversation and so to that end, Elon Musk, hold on a second, Nina Schick, who looks like she's about 30 bit of an AOC look nina schick dot org

23:58 Nina Schick is an author, advisor and speaker specializing in generative AI. She has a lot of the blue? Oh yeah deep fakes let's see deep fakes what she had... Deep fakes are the first viral form of generated AI this is where the story begins oh she says she's an expert but what's her bio Nina Schick? Where's your bio Oh, she does have an AI. She looks like AI! Yes she does. She looks a little like AOC. Nina advises several AI and technology companies including TruePic the first to build media authentication technology and Synthesia the world's first... This is interesting. She was born in Kathmandu Nepal. Not to be trusted. Nina's debut book Deep Fakes was released in 2020

24:50 Translated in five languages. She's a seasoned media commentator! Oh, can we call ourselves that? A seasoned... Well I'm a seasoned media commentator just so you know. Put some salt on ya. Here we go. It's not gonna come from government alone industry needs to be part of this conversation- She has advised leaders including Joe Biden The President of the United States. And Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the former Secretary General of NATO she speaks seven languages and calls London Berlin and Kathmandu a home she's an agent I wouldn't have her on the show. Let me think London, Berlin and Kathmandu is where she calls home? Yeah three homes. Yeah yeah but MI6 she graduated from Cambridge so i'm going to MI6 let's listen to her again and we'll be quiet primarily because the knowledge in terms of what is actually happening how are these systems built what's under the hood who can understand them

25:51 is not going to come from government alone. Industry needs to be a part of this conversation." And so, to that end Elon Musk is participating. Representatives of Google Amazon Meta Microsoft are all attending the summit. Well and that prompts me to ask you about the venue I mentioned at the top they were all meeting in this somewhat unlikely setting a bucolic English country estate. This is not just any English country estate though explain it's gorging It's gorgeous. Gorgeous! It's gorgeous, I tell you it's bucolic what does bucolic even mean? It means as...it's a mind kind of...I like idyllic it's only different it's got more birds and there's chirping and there's deer there's like a lamb in a very green field Just a lamb

26:44 A lamb and maybe a horse. Oh man, wasn't that... No goats? No goats are generally not in bucolic because they make too much racket Yeah it is indeed the definition is idyllic rustic a pleasant bucolic scene speak English lady bucolic okay So I don't know how we ended there, but let's go to clip three. It's gorgeous. It's called Bletchley Park. It's a sprawling brick and stone manor house. And it was once the top secret home of World War Two code breakers where some of the sort of best and brightest mathematicians including one named Alan Turing

27:23 cracked the Nazis' Enigma code, and helped win the war. The 2014 movie Imitation Game is there. And so Bletchley had a role in the birthplace of some of the earliest programmable computers and the questions that Alan Turing asked at Bletchley literally 85 years ago can computers think? Can they imitate humans are being talked about again in that very same venue. Fascinating! John is fascinating. Fascinating! Well not everybody is on board with this, in fact the co-founder of Google Brain which merged I guess with IBM's Big Blue something he says and this is in The Business Insider big tech companies are inflating fears about the risks of AI wiping out humanity because they want to dominate that market

28:18 Of course. He's got the right idea? Of course! And what else is new? Andrew Ng an adjunct professor at Stanford University, soon to be ex-adjunct professor at Stanford University. He's out! Who taught OpenAI CEO Sam Altman... he taught the guy told The Australian Financial Review that the biggest tech companies hope to trigger strict regulation with quote the bad idea that AI could make us go extinct they are definitely there are definitely large tech companies that would rather not have to try to compete with open source So they're creating fear of AI leading to human extinction. Now remember, the Lambda model was put out by Meta in open source and now I'm running AI on my own little Raspberry Pi here at home with the same models... well not the same but you know the same chat GPT-3 models. I have that for sure and probably a little bit above that

29:16 And he's not the only one that says this is bullcrap. Here is, what is her name? This is Meredith Whitaker she's the president of Signal she was at a Washington Post AI summit and here's what she had to say. Right and the chat GPT interface kind of gave people a simulated experience of like oh my god I'm talking to kind of a human it's spitting out nonsense But it's spitting it out, and this feels kind of sentient right and on the backs of this advertisement for their GPTA yeah, I like her a lot but the right thing is rampant. Yeah, I would sell through there as your cloud services

30:13 They sort of generated an entire new height narrative around generative AI as this sort of future facing technology That's going to change every industry, but what does it do right? You know represent visual images that are often you know stolen from artists or like far too close for comfort And it presents plausible text It infers what's the plausible response to a prompt based on mountains of data from the internet, the Reddits, the 4chans. The Stormfront is in there as Natasha's work has shown and presents text that looks plausible but has no relationship to facts

30:49 has no relationship to reality, it has no citations. Right? So what is this useful for? It's not useful in my serious context yeah you could replace a junior copywriter but you better have a senior copywriter who's checking that text because it's gonna be janky I love the term janky She's right yes My teeth used to be janky Jankie is a very valid term so she's completely right I spent two days really trying to figure out what they were trying to do with this executive order. It is a monstrous executive order when they had those behind closed doors meetings with Chuck Schumer, I think every single tech CEO or the smartest brains and people in the universe had their lobbyists there to write this thing and from what I can tell they completely are writing

31:44 what the Google Brain co-founder guy says, we don't want anyone competing with us. That's exactly what I see but i think it's even worse because they have defined certain terms to be so broad that you can pretty much say if you start a social media network and it is of X size, which would mean it would be competing with them. And they go right down to the number of machines how many gigabits bandwidth between these machines what kind of computational power it would have which kind of equals Amazon

32:20 AWS services, Google Cloud Azure all this stuff then you would be deemed artificial intelligence and thus would have to adhere to the regulation. These guys they know that they have nothing left they got nothing in the pipeline advertising is on the downturn It may come back up again, but it's not going to be what it was. They wanted to solidify their spot with this bull crap which costs just as much as they might make off of it. There is no advertising business model that we've seen yet but yet this is oh! We need all kinds of incredible money and institutions and the government to be all over this to protect people from horrible things that could go wrong if you're big as we are

33:10 So, they've defined these terms and the three that I think are most important are these. Artificial intelligence – so this is now a temporarily legal definition of what artificial intelligence is because it's an executive order of course the next president comes in can get rid of it and I hope whoever it does The term artificial intelligence or AI has the meaning set forth in 15 U.S code 94013, I'll get to that in a moment, colon A machine-based system that can for a given set of human defined objectives make predictions recommendations or decisions influencing real or virtual environments Well bull crap! That's an algo! That's literally an algo

34:01 Artificial intelligence systems use machine and human based inputs, so it's not autonomous to perceive real and virtual environments abstract such perceptions into models through analysis in an automated manner. And use model inference to formulate options for information or action what does that sound like to you? What Well, listen to this clip and it's right in here. It's heard that the first ever global summit on AI safety is taking place bringing together top officials from 28 countries with executives from cutting-edge tech firms Prime Minister Rishi Sunak hoping to position the UK as a leader in the rapidly developing field Why not? There can be no serious strategy for AI without at least trying to engage all of the world's leading AI powers

34:56 Sunak is pushing for a global AI regulation advisory board based on the UN's intergovernmental panel on climate change. Oh brother! They want to regulate this. Yeah, they want a UN body! And like climate change IPCC which is a bonanza of money government money this is what they want yes more meetings all around the world COP 29 is on deck oh man they wanna have fun fun fun and they want... Drinking club

35:32 but a very profitable drinking club. Look at how we've been... Oh yeah, why just drink when you can make money while you're drinking? Look at how we've been frightened into believing climate change is all it's the same terminology We can just guess exactly what they are going to say and exactly what they are going to do So I thought it would be fun To put this definition through my own AI running here at home And ask what it thought of Well, the AI which is probably equivalent to GPT 3.5 says this definition is quite broad but it also captures a wide range of technologies under its umbrella term artificial intelligence for example natural language processing system use AI technologies to analyze textual inputs from humans in order to make predictions there's your Siri no more Siri not on scale not at our scale then you have to go through regulations

36:29 Similarly, machine learning algorithms can be used for predictive modeling and decision-making tasks that involve data analysis of real world events such as weather patterns or stock market trends. They want to corner the markets and they will with this stupid administration who will rip us up! The next definition is the term AI model According to the executive order, AI model means a component of an information system that implements AI technology and uses computational statistical or machine learning techniques to produce outputs from a given set of inputs. Isn't this the basis of computing? I'm asking you is this not the basis? This is insane what these people are talking about

37:16 Well, it is. So I looked over that thing and I thought there was one onerous moment in the whole document that perked me up. Sure what was that? Even at the lowest level, it says in that document that all red team results have to be turned over to the government. Now for people out there who want to know what that means, there's things called penetration testing where you check to see how strong your systems are and then there is a thing which I don't know why they named this but is called Red Team

37:56 And red team goes beyond penetration testing. Kobol, I think gets involved in this because he gets hired and he has to literally in some instances break into a company illegally but it's legal but is illegal at the same time break into the company and then go and fish around in their systems you have to turn those results of any red team analysis are so, they're so proprietary and dangerous that you're giving the government the backdoor to your entire system if you do that. And they now requiring it by this executive order I found that to be just overlooked by everybody and extremely onerous They should be sued for it This executive order is no good Oh No! It's completely written by lobbyists

38:52 and donors, and lobbyists. I love the term generative AI which is a class of AI models that emulate the structure and characteristics of input data in order to generate derived synthetic content this can include images videos audio text and other digital content And then they go into this whole section about who Who has to you know give the red team results to the government and it's basically anybody who's trying to compete with them Literally, they talk about if you have so many integer

39:33 calculations per second, so many billions of rows in your model. I mean it's unbelievable... No you're right this is a scam perpetrated by Meta and Google yes and who had maybe... Microsoft! Microsoft! Microsoft! Right, Microsoft Meta and Google the big three It's like the Digital Patriot Act this thing is like give it all to us we control you now And then of course, to get the public on board... well let's roll out some fun human interest stories shall we? 53 years after splitting up they're back. It's a reunion few could have imagined since only two are still alive but The Beatles are releasing a new single featuring all four band members thanks to artificial intelligence it's the last song that my dad and Paul and George and Ringo will get to make together

40:26 Now and Then was written and sung by John Lennon in the late 1970s. 24 years later, his widow Yoko Ono gave the demo to Paul McCartney but back then it was impossible to separate Lennon's vocals on piano to work alongside new recorded parts Last year AI made that possible. Paul called me up and said he'd like to work on now and then He put the bass on I put the drums on In the city of Liverpool where it all began fans are eager to hear the results. I can't wait to hear the song, i hope its done tastefully and bring about something that they have created together collaboratively and technology just makes it happen It was in this room that The Beatles performed for the very first time. The venue and the city itself attracts fans from around the world

41:13 The physical release of Now and Then also comes ahead of new editions of the Beatles' Red Album and Blue Album, expanded to cover their entire singles discography. So this is now artificial intelligence where... Audio guys have been able to do this for decades! Thank you And even on demos, Sir George Martin was well known. He was one of the first guys that did multi-tracks. They have multi tracks or as we call it today stems and even that you can go online there's open... I'll tell you which is there's an open source value for value even based system called

41:57 Well, there it is. VocalRemover.org and you can throw in any song you want and you can remove the music or move the vocals with AI because this is what they want to stop. The fact that some dude open source... You know, you can do that little puny man. VocalRemover.org. You could take your little donations for that but don't try to compete with us because then you'll have to red team your results! That's what this...it's disgusting. This should be, someone should challenge this." We need to challenge this with the Fredericksburg Declaration! I think the Fredericksburg Declaration should…we can do more than one of these so let's make this one specifically about that executive order. Okay, I like it.

42:47 We need to do something. I mean, we need to take a stand! What? You? Me? What?! Do what?? Now moving on... Did you see the ARC conference this weekend that was taking place in the O2 arena in England and London Do you know? No, I have nothing. I know nothing about the ARC conference in the O2 arena. Oh this is... Which is a nice arena! Well it's not in the- It wasn't in the arena itself but it was one of the- A little room nearby okay. But it sounds good. The O2! This is the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. This is Jordan Peterson's anti world economic forum thing

43:45 Have you, you haven't followed this at all? I have not followed this at all. I've not followed much of what Peterson's been up to because ever since he became his angry man... Yeah so- Ever since he got off drugs You know almost killed himself getting off drugs He's become this grouch It got really boring after he cut off the drugs So this is um it's very it's a bit polarizing because of the people involved So, it really was spearheaded by him and what is the name? Baroness Filippa something or other. Baroness Filippa. And they've pretty much gathered a whole lot of alternative media people

44:34 Were we invited? No, no. Philippa Stroud, there you go. Baroness Philippa Stroud who is the co-founder and CEO of ARC. Member of the House of Lords! Chair of the Social Metrics Commission. And it's interesting because they have a lot... It sounds really good on paper and it was like Let me just give you their, actually I have their pitch. But about ARC, The Alliance for Responsible Citizenship is an international community with a vision for a better world where every citizen can prosper contribute and flourish

45:11 Did Karl Marx say something similar? You know, I am... People look at the and then they had live stream all weekend. There's videos this is the most important speech you've ever heard! You know they had Ayaan Hirsi Ali on a panel Peter Sim led the whole thing he had the most heinous jacket on where half was red half was blue Oh yeah he's wearing this half-and-half jacket It's hideous Yeah, I've seen it a couple times and it's like no. It's just why are you wearing this? No is just no Do you want to hear a little bit of their promo reel? Yeah, yeah Yes, I do okay we What yes, sorry I'm sorry. I'm still saying no to the jacket now the jacket is a hard pass

45:56 Just no to the jacket. and the desire to dominate. We do not regard ourselves or our fellow citizens as destructive forces living in an alien relationship to the pristine and pure natural world.

46:33 There are a series of narratives out there, these stories that we're telling ourselves. They're actually determining a lot of our global behavior. If you've got children, you're exposed to some of this in a really visceral way and you see your children coming home fearful about the future is this sort of cataclysmic belief that the is dangerous and somehow we are to blame. There is an epidemic mental health crisis worldwide in great part due to the breakdown of the social fabric, confusion over values where economic prosperity work materialism is prioritized over family. And so that despair that we see around us right? The breakdown of all these social connections is related

47:20 to a vision of the human being which sees that the person is just a consumer. Promoting that, reducing humans to consumers or criticizing it and criticizing humans for being parasites on the world. Okay, so that's kind of the issue part of this promo reel I am not a fan of music like this you know big bombastic stuff Yeah it's just lower key music played in kinda sad note It's to elicit an emotional response through words being said And what would you do in the next piece with the music?

48:00 Well, if I was playing that at the beginning which is the bad side. I would play the up-tempo stuff to say how much what you're gonna do But what is a best story? What is the better story that we can we can tell That will enable us to walk forward the way We need to look forward as societies and nations really going to be the big theme bringing the violence bring a more optimistic vision and to believe in ourselves, in our civilization. In the things that made it such an extraordinary civilization we need to formulate a different vision and I think that we have in our traditions we have in our great theological movements of the west in the past few thousand years we have the possibility of formulating

48:50 a different vision of humans. Humans that exist in love with each other, that are submitted to the transcendent good and can work together towards a better future." The rejection of our traditional beliefs have not produce viable alternative narratives, only deconstructionist theories. We must reinvigorate our sense of citizenship we must encourage one another to serve the step up to lead with courage wherever leadership is needed the ARC network that I am a part will seek to address these goals and more if we get

49:25 this right, if we can give people confidence again in our identity as people and communities and nations then we'll start to reverse some of the more negative trends that have accompanied the more positive ones. So hopefully it can have a very long-lasting impact. Right now I'm very hopeful that music got me all hopeful i'm up how about you are you up? You feeling up God no. There's also a lot of religious imagery, iconic type things you can hear there is an undertone of that although they never specifically address it and here is the payoff this is the last piece little shorter of the promo reel this I guess what they're going to do? They are going tell us now so we've got this horrible we have mental health crisis not because all our children are on SSRI but

50:08 Obviously, telling people about climate change is frightening and frightens the kids and we're all going to die. But we need to step up! Step up as citizens! And what is ARC going to do for us? ARC is emerging already as a wonderful community of people who are just full of hope for the way forward and want to bring in a different culture, and a different vision for where we can go as people. I believe in great minds meeting and looking together for solutions You cannot overestimate the impact of an idea There is a greater narrative that we can all chime-in on for the things that we all want together which are human flourishing, human prosperity, human well being

50:55 All more to hope. We posit that men and women of faith and decisiveness, made in the image of God can arrange their affairs with care and attention so that abundance and opportunity could be available for all. We hope to encourage the development of an alternative pathway uphill out of both tyranny and the desert stabilizing unifying and compelling two men and women have sound judgment and free will Welcome aboard the ark. Oh My god, yeah Peterson is gonna be so when

51:35 When he comes to his senses, is going to be so embarrassed by this utopian bullcrap that he's part of. That it can have to go on an apology tour I mean... That is the worst thing I've ever heard He is... So there are these shots of him standing over a huge canyon and there was drone shot and he's standing there almost like Moses I mean Peterson may be the Antichrist for all we know but I did a little bit research And then I say that only in biblical context Because this is something really, really irks me about what's going on here. But now looking because if this is a massive conference there's money behind this so first a little bit yeah okay I found out for us

50:55 All more to hope. We posit that men and women of faith and decisiveness, made in the image of God can arrange their affairs with care and attention so that abundance and opportunity could be available for all. We hope to encourage the development of an alternative pathway uphill out of both tyranny and the desert stabilizing unifying and compelling two men and women have sound judgment and free will Welcome aboard the ark. Oh My god, yeah Peterson is gonna be so when

51:35 When he comes to his senses, is going to be so embarrassed by this utopian bullcrap that he's part of. That it can have to go on an apology tour I mean... That is the worst thing I've ever heard He is... So there are these shots of him standing over a huge canyon and there was drone shot and he's standing there almost like Moses I mean Peterson may be the Antichrist for all we know but I did a little bit research And then I say that only in biblical context Because this is something really, really irks me about what's going on here. But now looking because if this is a massive conference there's money behind this so first a little bit yeah okay I found out for us

52:19 So the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship was launched by Peterson, includes what we'd call public intellectuals. Arthur Brooks, Niall Ferguson, Bjorn Lomberg... Oh yeah! The old public intellectual term which is fairly recent by the way and more or less created by guys like Peterson Yes it's like that the intellectual dark web When I was a kid oh yeah when I was a kid Here we go There was no such thing as a public intellectual. I never heard the term public intellectual until about a decade ago Well, in fact that should check it out on Google Ngram and i'm sure Public Intellectual is a fairly new creation. I'll do that while you're talking So this is the group behind this is the Legatum Group The Legatum Institute L-E-G-A-T-U-M Okay And the Legatum Institute

53:14 was described by the Financial Times as the intellectual heart of Brexit. So this is where all this is coming from, and they also are connected to GB News which makes total sense So, you know, we've got all the GB news. You know that's the thing that Mark Stein was on and they have fun stories is definitely a counter narrative in the UK but so far I mean this feels like Russell Brand this feels it feels like all of these kind of people and if you look at the advisory board let me see if I can find some interesting people here

53:58 So Arthur C. Brooks, he's a William Henry Bloomberg professor We've got Barry Strauss military historian on ancient Greece Bjorn Lomborg you know with the Copenhagen consensus think tank we've got Oh Dan Crenshaw Ipach Bucane he's in there Well, it's a James Orr Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion. We've got... Oh! Would you look at that? We've got Mike Johnson our new Speaker of the House he's a member of it Michael Schellenberger part of the Westminster Declaration Mike Lee Senator Mike Lee from Utah isn't he a spook

54:37 There's, you know, so Niall Ferguson, Philippa Stroud. I mean it is Tony Abbott, Victor Davis Hanson, Vivek Ramaswamy... Oh and Winston Marshall! A Grammy award-winning musician. It's just like a missing yo-yo ma. That's the only one they didn't get in there. Dig deep enough. Let me stop you with this thing for my comment which was, I've got the Ngram up for public intellectual. The term never existed before 1985 and has grown just kind of exponentially and peaked in 2003 and now is leveled off at a very high rate

55:19 So it's some new thing. So when we start seeing these new terms introduced all of a sudden and people are in the group suddenly, had never existed before I would say that something is up with that. So the Legatum Institute is funded by The Legatum Group which includes an investment firm, Legatum Capital run out of the United Arab Emirates Oh, a UAE operation. Yes and they fund things like the Freedom Fund, the Ebola crisis funds... They got tons of money? They also have a lot of money. There's some money grabbed by these public intellectuals okay we're good for them. They also have a stance on climate change

56:07 The population growth, not capitalism is the biggest cause of climate change. The best way to save the planet is to give women more control over their own fertility." So there's all kinds of things here that I just don't like. It's funny, Trollum says, Curry sounds jealous! Now believe me, I'm not jealous of this at all. Jealous of what? I don't know but I think we're looking at some false- That we haven't latched on to one of these money sinkholes. I think that there's false idols here that we need to be careful of and i was totally irked when i saw Eva Vlaardingerbroek who is the cute Dutch blonde who rose to fame through Tucker Carlson during the dutch farmer protests

56:53 She was on Tucker Carlson. That group, yeah the only one and you I think were the only one to debunk it Well no she's not a member of that group but she is actually engaged in getting married to Matt Witt who is part of the Prager U So, you know she's... PragerU. Yeah so this is the group you know and they interviewed her and I was actually kind of happy because what she said here mirrors my initial thinking about what is this group really doing? I totally understand that got her on board. Peterson is a very convincing guy

57:39 I can see where people just get all on board with him. But even, you know ever since the drugs... He uses a lot of words There's no joking anymore, there's no fun. It's all just blah. Anyway I wanted to play this little piece by her because i think this is exactly what this group is because watching for two days I saw absolutely zero ideas or solutions or here's what we're gonna do other than we're the public intellectuals and we recognize a problem

58:16 Yeah, do a podcast. I'm here obviously when Jordan Peterson announced that he was starting a counter movement basically to the World Economic Forum it immediately sparked my interest because although i'm not a fan necessarily of centralized organizations the essence of this is not that... It's actually to bring together people who look at power in a more decentralized, more nationalist way. Bring them together to fight again a global agenda right? So it's in essence the opposite idea of the World Economic Forum even though we do have to conspire together you know so in order to exchange ideas and I really like that for because of the

58:59 But it's active, you know? We're doing something. And there is a lot of talk on the conservative side but this is something where people can actually join and exchange ideas and take action and hopefully spread the word beyond social media so I really like it for that reason The focus obviously on responsible citizenship It's a very different idea than what the world economic forum predicates the

59:41 climate, you know it's always anything that is outside of your own control and I think what Peterson opened with today saying no you have agency over your own life and that's where you need to get started is a really good message. And one that we desperately need so I'm curious to see how this will develop and what will come from meeting like this because they can't just be talking but we need to be wary of that but I really really like the idea. Yeah there's...it's just talking You know, the other thing is she kind of her comment that this is the counter to the World Economic Forum kind of belies the fact that the World Economic Forum until recently really brought together prime ministers CEOs and major corporations had influence

1:00:29 public intellectuals, secretaries of state, secretaries of finance world bank guys. It was like done for it was an economic forum only recently that has become this screwy thing and that's not what these guys... This is a bunch of public quote-unquote public intellectuals who in my opinion are just blowhards that like to talk and they're Mike Hoggs in many instances And it's point, and what's the point of it? What is this supposed to do? Oh we take control over our own lives. Yeah I mean... And the world economic forums against that. This is not the way things are really structured. The World Economic Forum and all these things we talk about largely a joke so this is a counter-joke?

1:01:21 Because I was talking to Tina about it, she says well you know at least they're against the World Economic Forum but yeah but what are they really saying? It's like there is a half Catholic Christian vibe to it which is not really spoken of. But then it's like, you know be the individual. Either all in on that or not Be the individual be an upstanding citizen but don't be global I think you're right It feels like Mike Hogg and there is lots of money flowing into this There is a lot of money for it And the fact that the money comes from the same people who

1:02:04 organized and politically organized Brexit means it's a political group. There is political money behind this I'm not saying I disagree with Brexit, obviously i don't! I thought was great, I thought was phenomenal to see that but you gotta be honest about it the UAE money source just smells Well, I'm looking at their website too and the website is...the only way I can describe it. People should go to its A... It's ARC Forum. Google ARC and you'll find it. arcforum.org. It is corny! It is overproduced. All the stock art is corny. It's just lame. It's super lame and then the fact that

1:02:52 that some of these people are attaching their names to this is just an embarrassment. Yeah, okay... What do they cut here? There's like a running movie at the beginning with you know some the ARC of them of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. What does that even mean? That's what I'm talking about! It's these big structured sentences... Ben, I guess it sounds better if you're wearing a blue... And they're cutting grapes off of a vine?! What does that have to do with anything!? That's a biblical thing! This is what I mean! Like this part religious... Well the only biblical thing because they are showing somebody playing the piano

1:03:34 Harvesting wheat, couple of kids jumping up and down in a puddle. I mean the whole thing stinks! It stinks! No, I'm glad we agree Because it bothers me. But why you wait a minute? You think that I would even think this was good No, no you boil it down to the truth of it. It stinks. Well, I got it down in one word. It's stinks You know their ideas restoring the foundations of our civilization A better story for a better story for the future addressing the challenges of our time breaking the inevitable path Okay

1:04:12 Blah blah blah blah why we need a better story. I know but they left the one out soaking the UAE for as much as we can get But this has been my problem with the alternative media for a while. Everybody goes on each other's podcasts, and I'll pull them all in. Megyn Kelly and Victor Davis Hanson and Tim Poole that just go around and around and around then they've created this belief- A vortex This vortex is belief in themselves that they're changing something Yeah And it just doesn't feel

1:04:51 Legit, you know? Look I know we're outside of that because we don't wear headphones and have the mics on our face in video. That's why we'll never be a part of it but i don't think it's something you want to be a part of You know just... It feels disingenuous! Well I can't put my finger on other than what you said it stinks Stinks! Stinks of something weird So, and I don't like the logo. Spark the ARC with a little thing shoot like and then welcome aboard the Ark. Like OK now we're Noah's ark yeah now yeah well there is your religious connection not not come aboard that are good that were good to go. That's upon which is the lowest form of humor anyway eyes on arc. We gotta make sure we know this is gonna go nowhere well

1:05:47 I mean, okay. Well that's a good find! I'll give you 10 points for that one. Well thank you. I'll give you 1 point back for the it stinks. It stinks? You take one. It stinks. Whatcha got? Well, I'm just on this website. It's bugging you isn't it? What do you got on Mike Johnson? Let's talk about Mike Johnson since you mentioned him Yes, I want to talk about that. That's good. I caught Kash Patel who I really do like as an analyst Oh you do, do you? I do-do You really do like him? I do-do like him as an analyst And I think doo-doo is the right word and

1:06:28 He is on NTD talking about what Johnson may or may not be able to accomplish and I think it was worth listening to, so I made a clip of it. Cash Patel thank you for joining us good to have you back on the show. The House has... And we said this is the new speaker of the house, the crazy religious guy! Mike Johnson who's part of ARC apparently You know I can just see Mike Johnson. That's the one thing that they can bitch and moan about his religiosity and all the rest of it which he doesn't really exhibit at all except his haircut maybe but this arc thing bothers me yeah, I mean if you're on the same website with a patch McCain Dan Crenshaw I mean you got some soul-searching to do

1:07:11 Kash Patel, thank you so much for joining us. Good to be back on the show The House has elected a speaker Mike Johnson He got unanimous consent from the Republicans This is after three weeks without a speaker Why do you think Mike Johnson won where Scalise Jordan and Emmer failed? Look it this isn't an overnight process You know I know Speaker Johnson he's a great guy we've worked together in the past In my opinion, what I think you saw is this notion that people who have been in Washington forever and co-opted by the lobbyists and defense industrial complex and big public interest. Their tenure running Washington DC at least for the Republican Party has come to an end. When we look back in the mirror and say …

1:07:54 you know, whether or not you like what Representative Gates did or not. That was the instigating moment and you saw a lot of people especially in conservative media circles rise up and actually participate in this conversation. And that's why I think you saw so many votes for different candidates beforehand. What you saw in Speaker-elect Mike Johnson is a different candidate, Emerge. Someone who will be critical of the establishment and who has in the past supported quite arduously President Trump and those other individuals don't have that track record so it's going to be a different speakership for sure we'll just see if he is co-opted by The Swamp or he takes The Swamp over

1:08:38 No, that's a good point. That's a good point he's young enough to be totally co-opted by the swamp Yeah, yes could totally happen to him but it but being But being a true religious person the likelihood is less because he's not guided by them by the greed Or you'd hope. The enemy is always on the prowl, you never know. So here we go part two to your point during the 2020 election Johnson voted against certifying the electoral college votes in Arizona and Pennsylvania and after Biden won the presidency he called Trump telling him they keep fighting how do you see Johnson uniting the Republican Party as it were?

1:09:21 Well, the Republican Party has changed. The Republican Party is jettisoned the likes of whether you like them or dislike them Liz Cheney Adam Kinzinger and other folks. The Republican Party has changed since Donald Trump became president and a lot of people don't want to accept that the Karl Rove's of the world but the reality is it's the right of the Republican Party to change And what you saw today in Speaker-elect Mike Johnson is a momentous, prodigious change in the way the Republican Party has shaped. And by the way, you also saw him win by a vote margin of 220. Every single Republican voted for him without the conditions that were attached to Speaker McCarthy's bid. That must mean everyone in Congress at least has an huge amount of respect for him but believes he'll get the job done

1:10:08 And I think the Republican Party will continue to change. It's not unlike the Democratic Party when it changes over time, this is allowed to happen in this country and you know when Speaker Pelosi or Hakeem Jeffries and Secretary of State Clinton challenged the election and refused to concede it in other elections that was their right to do so under the First Amendment freedom of speech and that was Mike Johnson's right to do so with President Trump. No no no he's an election denier! That's not the same thing How quickly they forget All right, let's wrap it with this. He actually this is a long interview I only took these three clips and I can kind of maybe summarize some other stuff he said but that I think that clip 3 brings A little bit to the 4 do you see the house being more aggressive on this front with Johnson as speaker? Especially what the 2024 election race heating up well, that would be my advice to him

1:11:02 I mean, he has the majority. He's got the gavels. He can extend subpoena power to the chairman and women. He can call for votes of contempt in Congress for individuals like Chris Wray and Merrick Garland who have already violated congressional subpoenas. And the precedent laid out by the Democratic January 6th Committee was those people get prosecuted by the DOJ. or we start defunding some pieces of those organizations. So Speaker Johnson has that ability to do that, he can empower those chairman and chairwomen, he can make the subpoena process swifter but he's also got to put some teeth behind it you can issue all the subpoenas you want and Chris Wray and Merrick Garland have basically just thrown them in the trash

1:11:38 And this is a federal contempt of proceeding document, and the Republicans have not acted on it. So hopefully Speaker Johnson will launch into that because at the end of day what the American public deserves is the truth. Why's the FBI and DOJ hiding these documents? Whether it's Hunter Biden, Joe Biden Donald Trump or what have you put it all out there so we can vote based on the truth You know, if Speaker Johnson goes down that route and the first big thing he does is the Hunter Biden stuff then it's lost. I mean there's so much more he could be doing don't you think? Well the thing is they...I think by giving these committee heads

1:12:17 the subpoena powers that he has to delegate, I guess. And letting them go nuts and it's really not his... He's not connected to any of that, I think would be good because it would create a carnival but oh yeah very entertaining. What's interesting is in this day and age where you know particularly with the situation in the Middle East, we've got people talking about it's horrible there's anti-semitism people attacking people you know Jews attacking Jews Islamophobia attacking Muslims apparently Christians are okay. Well that's nothing new well but Jen Psaki

1:13:04 did a fantastic job. I think really if you want to attack someone like Mike Johnson, what she did on her show Inside with Jen Psaki... It's unwatchable but you managed to watch one good So let's take a few minutes to talk about this new speaker First glance Mike Johnson does seem fine, finish conservative yes? But he once started a civility caucus with the Democrat. And I mean, if nothing else he wears a suit and those glasses! How threatening can this guy actually be? Well, he may be threatening... Well, he gave us all a little clue as to how he would govern in an interview this week. I am a Bible-believing Christian Someone asked me today in the media they said it's curious people are curious what does Mike Johnson think about any issue under the sun? I said well go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it that's my worldview

1:13:56 You heard that right. The Bible doesn't just inform his worldview, it is his worldview! In fact during his first speech in his new job Johnson suggested that his election as Speaker was an act of God He didn't actually say that We never said that's a lie! He said we all have been ordained by God to be lifted up to where we are today That's what he said but no-no it was an act of God Talk about a bit of a humble brag there So what exactly has God apparently called on Mike Johnson to do? Well, his views on policy are essentially

1:14:51 Essentially what you'd expect from a religious fundamentalist. They're more divisive than they are divine. Prior to his election to Congress in 2016, Johnson spent nearly two decades working for the hard-right conservative legal activist group The Alliance Defending Freedom It's a group, by the way that is so right-wing it was designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Oh there you go! That's proof this guy is horrible man I wish we would be deemed to hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center might get us in a little attention. No, it won't help us at all and don't wish for such things but they don't they deem everybody a hate group basically

1:15:30 The Southern Poverty Law Center, everybody... I think they deemed a libs of TikTok one. A hate group! But they have a lot of uh.. They're so off the rails i wouldn't wish any attention by their creepy- their creeps. Um, I'm just using it as an example The ADF has worked for decades to blur the line between church and state. This is this is the issue now see this is the same thing that Schwisher and Professor Gee were all about, oh Church and State it should be separate! Not erase at all together its kind of their goal they push to expand LGBT... No What? It's not a goal no but that's..this is why she so good she's very good what she's doing here. Church and State Yes She's a horrible propagandist

1:16:18 a glib one and she's, she has a... She doesn't. She's not an ugly woman but she's not attractive in the way that she should be for television And I think she's got ratings in the toilet because who they know? She doesn't have any there's no career real charisma that would draw in an audience Also what I'm hearing is this is Rachel Maddow's writers But she isn't, she's trying to do... Rachel Maddow had yes well Rachel Maddows writers came from Oberman who was her mentor and but she's a comedian. She was actually a genuine comedian so she could deliver lines with a kind of sarcasm that was a goofy style of sarcasm that had an attraction to a lot of people who like the nod their heads when Rachel talked

1:17:13 This woman has no sense of humor that I can tell. No, but it's the same... It must be the same writing team or influence but she can't deliver the lines That's what i mean she can't because she's not funny Correct Not erase it all together thats kind of their goal They've pushed to expand LGBTQ plus discrimination in the name of religious freedom. So they disagree with LGBTQ so they are pushing for everything against LGBTQ freedom and they were a big part of the effort to overturn Roe v Wade following in the Supreme Court... Overturn Roe V Wade? The Supreme Court did that! In 2003 ruling that struck down the country's sodomy laws as unconstitutional Johnson criticized the decision and wrote in favor of criminalizing gay sex

1:17:59 He claimed that, quote, states have always maintained the right to discourage the evils of sexual conduct outside of marriage. That's not quite the same as criminalizing but okay! Then in 2000... This is one of those examples where you say one thing and then use an example that isn't the same it's wrong The lowest form of journalism. And it's about the state sodomy laws and he says something completely different according to her quote. Three ruling that struck down the country sodomy laws as unconstitutional, Johnson criticized the decision and wrote in favor of criminalizing gay sex He claimed that states have always maintained their right to discourage the evils of sexual conduct outside marriage

1:18:39 That doesn't mean gay sex necessarily outside of marriage. Any sex, oh not that I'm on board with what he's saying but I mean come on! Come on Psaki! Then in 2004 Johnson wrote that homosexual relationships are inherently unnatural ultimately harmful and a dangerous lifestyle You don't exactly have to be a religious scholar to know whether discrimination is a key tenet of the Bible It's not then there is this policy on guns. She never read the Bible. That was my favorite line! Homosexual relationships are inherently unnatural, ultimately harmful and a dangerous lifestyle. Say it again? You don't exactly have to be a religious scholar to know whether discrimination is a key tenet of the Bible... It's not. And then there is this

1:19:31 What is his policy on gun violence? Speaker Johnson wants to talk about anything but guns. In 2016, he actually blamed school shootings on no-fault divorce laws, radical feminism and legal abortion. I've got a fine where he said that! I love that part maybe the SSRIs? Quite a stretch there Then there's the obvious question of how Johnson's convictions square with his fierce loyalty to Donald Trump. Stop a second, since you brought this Rachel thing in... I'm now listening to her and trying to hear Rachel, and I can see where this material would work with Rachel. Totally! She can do it she has that snide kind of delivery. It's a beyond... you know Saki likes to think she's snide

1:20:22 But compared to Rachel Maddow, no. She's not even close. Rachel Maddow has snied to an extreme and she could pull this off and get people nodding their heads. Psaki is not pulling it off! It's just like blah blah blah...it's too monotone I wish that we had AI that could change this from Psaki into Rachel Maddow We could. I mean its doable but were not going to do because its time consuming and stupid You just do it in your own head. We got 30 seconds left A guy who has been married multiple times, paid hush money to a porn star Oh wait... Alright How can he even think about Donald Trump because he's a heathen? In 2016 He actually blamed school shootings on no-fault divorce laws radical feminism and legal abortion It's all quite a stretch there

1:21:14 Then there's the obvious question of how Johnson's convictions square with his fierce loyalty to Donald Trump, a guy who has been married multiple times paid hush money to a porn star and joked about grabbing women. Yeah, no you can't like him as a church God-fearing man. That's no good! There is no repentance there is no forgiveness I would love to know what passage in the Bible told Johnson to become one of the most important architects behind Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election? Which passage was it that God whispered into his ear to ignore the Constitution and disenfranchise millions of voters It's hard not to think that Mike Johnson's idea of what America should be is drastically out of line with what America actually is. He clearly envisions a country that's less democratic and less tolerant, and then they explain why he seems more comfortable with the America of the 18th century than the America of today Are there no Democratic Christians?

1:22:12 No, all Christians are atheist sinners. They're all atheists! The whole Democrat Party. I can't believe that... Or Satanists they could be Satanist. I don't know. That doesn't sound right. So there's a difference between an atheist and the satanist? That doesn't sound right. Yeah it sounds right to me My goodness Yeah, you're right. This is written by Rachel's writers. They had this down to a T they were writing for her voice which is not easy by the way when you get it right if your reading from a prompter and somebody's writing for your voice its the greatest experience of your life and you just read and reading sound like you're talking and Rachel had their best so these guys she kind of quits she does what once a month show or something now

1:23:03 And so what are we going to do? Well, Jen Psaki's got a new show. Let's write for her." And it's like, oh geez! She's not delivering our material correctly. So can't do it right and they've done is they put clown mascara on her by you know... You have to take a look at one of her recent shows I haven't seen it for a few months. They clumped together. They went and put a big red nose on her then Now that I would watch Hey, our boys are Russian boys Vova and Lexus struck again. Oh those guys are the best I love these guys Vova on and Lexus it's amazing how I mean now all of this you know as i'm watching this or that's actually you know i'm listening to it

1:23:55 I'm thinking this could all be a deepfake. I have no idea what Georgia Maloney sounds like at length speaking in English, she's the prime minister... Well there would be a denial if that was true There is no denial that i'm aware of yet If there's no denial then it's not a deepfake. I mean do denials you have to maybe this one thing should be had been discussed and bletchley which is that people have to be quicker on the draw when it comes to denying things. Yes, yes, so they dupe her by posing as an African politician — it's unclear as of now

1:24:36 which country in Africa. And it's very interesting because after a while, I don't know if it was Vova and Alexis who were speaking they sound pretty much like a Russian African president just keep going but you know it's a phone call or its zoom call or I don't know...I pulled two clips from about 13 minutes in total and the first is about the illegal immigration That's going on and that just a couple of things that were interesting that popped up in this first bit speaking. Hi Minister is nice to hear you nice to meet you so thank you for your time, and how are you? I'm good. I'm good now. I heard many bad news So what is the situation yes? Yes, the situation is a bit difficult anyway the situation

1:25:25 It is very difficult for us to manage in this time. We've had from the beginning of the year, so in seven months, nine months more than 120,000 people who came mostly from Tunisia. This is interesting so it's this is not really reported as such and it's not that much compared to the United States but a hundred and twenty thousand mainly from Tunisia who have come into Italy.

1:26:19 And what I see is that this flows risk to be increased for the situation that's going on in Africa, moreover in the Sahel but also with the problem of the grain and all the problems you know quite better than me. We are working also with the European Union for a memorandum with Tunisia to help not only managing migration. I mean, my idea is always that you have to do both the things from one side. I agree absolutely so there's something up with Tunisia that we're does not really being reported on and she says, You know better than I do about the grain OK? So people starving it's always like Arrow Spring kicked off in Tunisia. So gotta keep our eyes on Tunisian

1:27:08 Now comes I think the best part of this hoax, which I just love that these politicians fall for. Makes you wonder what else they fall for? All kinds of stuff. Climate change? Oh well here she basically Says the quiet part out loud about Ukraine. How do you estimate the conflict in Europe between Ukraine and Russia? How long it will take? Does he not sound like a Russian at this point? He sounds like a Russian from the get-go How do you estimate the conflict in Europe between Ukraine and Russia? How long it will take to understand what is the position. You had conversations with President Biden and others, so... Well I see that there is a lot of fatigue if I have to say the truth from all sides. We're near the moment when everybody understands

1:28:09 we need a way out. The problem is to find a way out which can be acceptable for both without destroying the international law I've got some ideas about it on how to manage this situation but i'm waiting to understand, at the right moment try to put on the table these ideas that I have got There's a little more to this. So she says everybody is sick and tired of this crap, it's basically what she's saying we're tired we need a way out We need to stop this This is not working for anybody And then she says well I have some ideas...I don't believe she has ideas

1:28:54 But then it gets really weird after this next bit. The counter offensive of Ukraine is maybe not going as they were expecting. It is going, but it didn't change I mean that the... Now listen to this next bit, this is really weird. The destiny of the conflict.

1:29:31 So everybody understand that it really could last many years if we don't try to find some solutions. The problem is, which is the solution acceptable for both without opening other conflicts? You know what I think about Libya? No maybe you don't know but... We could discuss it for hours, my friend. What happened to Libya? Maybe today somebody understands that the situation after was not so good. What is this with Libya?! Do they plan on killing Zelensky and turning it into Libya?? Well for one thing her commentary about Liby we have to remember that Libya used to be an Italian state

1:30:23 Yes, so it's historically right And so what happened in Libya, she's not happy about because it was the United... It was NATO at our behest. At Hillary's behest to destroy them and of course we on our show we alluded to the fact that it was Gaddafi who is trying to undercut the American dollar with gold dinar. Yes. Gold dinar and you don't do that but so she I don't know what she's referring to about Libya, but it's possible that she's making an illusion that Ukraine is going to become a mess like Libya. Which...I don't see that happening because Russia would just take it over. Well there's Time Magazine had a big piece on Zelensky and Time magazine- Yes! It got played up everywhere Yeah but the part where they get played up about corruption?

1:31:25 Because that was in the article, but I didn't hear that much about it. Was it Newsweek or Time where they had his assistants and associates saying he's out of control? He has lost it! Yes. It was his... let me see... Andrei Yermak presidential chief of staff referring to the bunker that Zelensky nephew is confident have called home we're not out there living the high life he says all day were busy fighting this war amid all pressure to root out corruption I assume, this is the journalist perhaps naively that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when i made this point to a top presidential advisor in early October he asked me to turn off my audio recorder so we could speak more freely quote Simon you're mistaken he says people are stealing like there's no tomorrow

1:32:15 And then they go on to say that Zelensky is delusional, is the word...the term they use. Delusional? Time magazine isn't that owned by Reid Hoffman? No not Reid Hoffman. That's Newsweek you're thinking of. Who owns...? I thought Time Magazine was also... Well let's take it as you know it's not... Sorry should be Time Warner. Mark Benioff! Yeah he owns it He bought it. When did he buy it? In 2019, at the end of 2019 and then he's a Salesforce guy huge Democrat so yeah he is big Democrat well he's yeah he's a huge Democrat but he's not a progressive I say that because his buddies with Schwarzenegger Yeah but you know...I don't know man this is that's weird how could that M5M should not be letting that news out

1:33:15 That's not on board with the messaging. Maybe that was the idea? I think it was meant to go out! Hence, the Libyan solution. Yeah...I fear for our coke-snorting friend. Things don't look good for him Well we've said that before Yeah on this show and we've been quite a year ago. We've yeah, we've been quite done But quite wrong not necessarily wrong sometimes these things take time to kill somebody magazine So I have I have a series of clips and I'm very confused Not about the clips but about the response from the White House that

1:34:03 And everyone has seen this happening. This is the main M5M news of the day. After she says a quote series of horrendous anti-semitic messages threatening violence were posted online So that's NBC in the morning. Here's NBC in the evening Tonight the US is condemning this pro-palestinian mob that stormed an airport in Russia looking for Jews Hundreds of men some carrying banners with anti-semitic slogans rushed onto the tarmac searching for Israeli passengers

1:34:49 Around the world demonstrations calling for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war. And then we've got CNN... A 21 year old student has been arrested for making anti-semitic online threats against the Jewish community at Cornell University He did not enter a plea during his first appearance in federal court today This is happening as the number of anti-semitic threats Is clearly on the rise across the United States since the Hamas attacks against Israel Then, we have CBS New York State Police are now standing guard outside the Cornell Center for Jewish Living. After authorities say Patrick Dye, a junior engineering student at Cornell threatened to kill Jewish students including those who eat at this kosher dining hall So what does our administration do?

1:35:37 And this was a very long clip from our vice president. I made an edit, which I've made clear with a sound effect but this is the intro and the payoff of her announcement Our nation was founded on the fundamental principle that all people should have the freedom to live, to worship, and to be without fear of violence or persecution. Actually, it's the pursuit of life liberty and happiness It's not exactly what you said but okay we'll let you slide as your interpretation Every person has the right to live safe from violence hate and bigotry And for those reasons in so many more President Joe Biden and I have a duty Not only to keep the people of our nation safe But to condemn unequivocally and forcefully

1:36:29 all forms of hate. And today, we take another important step forward in our fight against hate for years Muslims in America and those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number of hate fueled attacks As a result of the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, we have seen an uptick in anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents across America. Including the brutal attack of a Palestinian American woman who is Muslim and the killing of her six year old son." So everyone's talking about the Jew hate

1:37:14 And they put out a statement about Islamophobia. What? Well on the cover sheet it says Islamophobia and anti-Semitism but you're right, the announcement was about... Yeah well listen to the last 45 seconds A senseless act of violence that the Department of Justice is investigating as a hate crime For so many people in our nation, the past few days and weeks have brought about all too familiar fears. Fears that they will be targeted profiled or attacked simply because of who they are how they worship or how they look

1:37:58 And so today I am proud to announce the Biden-Harris administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to counter Islamophobia. This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed plan, to protect Muslims and those perceived to be Muslim from hate bigotry and violence So this can only be that the binary...the second part of the binary movement which is You know, getting young people in universities to be all pro-Palestine free Palestine as we know organized by ActBlue by the Democrat Party and their handlers. This is the payoff! We're with you! The problem is clearly Islamophobia when obviously that's not the segment of Americans who are afraid it's very twisted

1:38:52 It's totally twisted. I don't...I'm in agreement, I've seen the same exact structure that you spotted here. That doesn't make a lot of sense unless the Democrat Party has decided to give up on the Democrat Jews. Most Jews in the United States are Democrats. There is very few of them that aren't. The number, I think, is under 20% that are maybe Republicans. And I think that they're giving up on the Jewish vote. Wow! Troublesome group, and they're all in with the trans Maoists and then the rest of them that hate the Jews yeah and they bailed. The Democrat...I don't understand

1:39:39 The thinking behind Jews voting for Democrats or Blacks voting for Democrats, it has never made any sense to me if you just look at the track record. NBC today took it one step further. I guess trying to give it a little bit of Donald Trump's slant to it." As Israel's war against Hamas rages on, a dire warning from FBI Director Christopher Wray. The ongoing war in the Middle East has raised the threat of an attack against Americans in the United States to a whole nother level. Ray telling the Senate Homeland Security Committee, the FBI is concerned violent extremists will be inspired by Hamas and other foreign terrorist groups to attack Americans We assess that the actions of Hamas and its allies will serve as inspiration the likes which we haven't seen since ISIS launched it's so called caliphate several years ago

1:40:35 It comes as this morning the FBI says it now has a suspect in custody in connection with violent online threats targeting Jewish students at Cornell University. According to prosecutors, 21-year old Patrick Dye, Jr., at the Ivy League school is facing federal charges for a series of posts allegedly threatening to kill Jewish people at the college and shoot up a campus building. The Anti-Defamation League says it's seen nearly 400% increase in reported anti-Semitic incidents compared to the same period last year, with college students frequently targeted. When we are hearing from students who are saying that they're being harassed

1:41:13 concerned about being visibly Jewish, I think is really concerning. On Tuesday FBI Director Wray highlighted the alarming surge in anti-Semitic hate nationwide This is a threat that is reaching in some way sort of historic levels All part of his warning that threats against both American Jews and Muslims are growing inflamed since the war began including the killing of a six year old Palestinian American child in Illinois allegedly at the hands of his family's landlord. Ray said the FBI also arrested a man in Houston who was studying how to build bombs and posted online about his support for killing Jews. I think this is all anti-Trump rhetoric, subtle propaganda

1:41:56 Well, I have a couple of thoughts on this. First of all do you recall about a year or two ago when there was all this news and oh anti-Asian Pacific, anti Asian hate? And they were promoting it in the media that is...and then you'd get one or two incidents here and there that usually some dumb shit that beat up some old Chinese woman in San Francisco or something like that but they were promoting as if this was a major trend And it's like they're trying to make this happen. That guy who was the 21-year old who is on social media posting all these threats and all the rest of it, that has to be a hoax. There's no normal person that's gonna do that because they know what the results are going to be you're gonna get arrested. You can't do that nobody does that anymore. That's old school. That's before people realize you can't do that.

1:42:48 This is bullcrap. That story is nonsense and then they keep bringing up the only instance they seem to be able to find about the anti-Muslims, that little kid who was killed by a maniac if anyone's you see a picture of this so called landlord this is all ginned up but everything about it is ginned up for some purpose You might be right It might have something to do with Trump People turn off your televisions, leave your phone in the desk drawer. Be like JCD you'll be much happier for it and much happier for going the whole year. And I love this is somebody the other day they always get the same response Oh really? Well then how come I can text you? I said because I use Google voice. It's on the computer and I get to texts on the computer oh so why am i talking to you now landline

1:43:41 I loved Horowitz. What if you have an emergency? And you're like, I'm not a doctor! My patients don't need me immediately. What if you're stranded by the side of the road what do you do and you said I just wait until someone comes by to help me out Yeah, so you do. You live in such a beautiful world! Everybody... I wish everyone could live in your world. It's reality Yes yes I know Here is what the Israeli envoy did at the United Nations Security Council As Israel was increasingly criticized by UN Security Council members for its massive bombardment of Gaza In the middle of an emergency meeting The Israeli ambassador pinned a yellow star to his jacket

1:44:26 Some of you have forgotten why this body was established. Just like my grandparents and the grandparents of millions of Jews, from now on, my team and I will wear yellow stars. We will wear this star until you condemn the atrocities of Hamas and demand the immediate release of our hostages. The gesture was swiftly criticized by Israel's Holocaust Memorial, which urged the ambassador to wear the Israeli flag instead saying that the act disgraced Holocaust victims An episode that illustrates the sensitive debates and deep divisions within the UN Security Council. You know it really sucks when the Jewish Holocaust Museum is like, take that star off! That's not right! Four draft resolutions have already been rejected...

1:45:16 since the war began three weeks ago. One blocked by Russia and China because it did not clearly call for a ceasefire, others stopped by the US because they failed to mention Israel's right to defend itself." Ah yeah so the UN is just useless...useless But Netanyahu man he threw out like- He did this speech... He really looks bad by the way Yeah he's not long for this gig that's for sure And he threw, he did a whole bunch of things like what are you talking about? He threw out a 33. He threw out an axis of evil and well this is just a short bit from his televised speech which is in English so I presume it's meant for the international community Hamas is also preventing foreign nationals from leaving Gaza altogether and most despicably Hamas is holding over 200 Israeli hostages

1:46:12 including 33 children, holding them terrorizing them keeping them as hostages. Every civilized nation should stand with Israel in demanding that these hostages be freed immediately and freed unconditionally I want to make clear Israel's position regarding a ceasefire just as the United States would not agree to a ceasefire after the bombing of Pearl Harbor or after the terrorist attack on 9-11 Israel will not agree to a cessation of hostilities with Hamas after the horrific attacks of October 7th. Notice how October 7 is supposed to be the new date, you know we have 9-11, well January 6 was worse than any of this but okay we'll just let Netanyahu have it. October 7th this is the date remember October 7 never again! Call for ceasefire are calls for Israel to surrender to Hamas

1:47:09 To surrender to terrorism. He's not surrendering, there is not going to be a ceasefire that clear! To surrender to barbarism. Barbarism? That will not happen Ladies and gentlemen, the Bible says that there is a time for peace and a time for war. I love this because this is Ecclesiastes 3 And the actual Bible quote is there's a time for war and a time for peace But he kind of twists that around which I think is interesting This is a time for war A war for our common future Today we draw a line between the forces of civilization and the forces of barbarism It is the time for everyone to decide where they stand by the way I don't think if if we were to advise him. I don't think we would say it's a war against civilization and barbarism I mean this just doesn't sound right Terrorism is a good word

1:48:02 You know, barbarism? Yeah. Barbarisms a pretty archaic term. It's not good marketing. It doesn't sound good. He could do better than this Israel will stand against the forces of barbarism until victory I hope and pray that civilized nations everywhere will back this fight because Israel's fight is your fight because if Hamas and Iran's axis of evil win You will be their next target. There you go the Hamas thing well I have to say this there's an image some of the images from coming out of Gaza talk about rubble icing oh yeah and they're doing a helluva job now I have a bunch of clips from the head of Hamas which you'll never hear on any American broadcast

1:48:48 that I thought would be an interesting contrast so we could at least be somewhat... Get another... By the way, do you want the official Arabic pronunciation guide as we requested? Oh yes. Somebody wrote us saying your pronouncing Hamas wrong and not hummus and Hezbollah. You don't know what you're doing. So yes, I would like to hear this now. Now this is controversial of course because this is the Arabic way of pronouncing Hamas and Hezbollah, not the Israeli way. All right? So there's a difference so this is the Arabic pronunciation of what I was saying Hamas no! Hamas... Hamas... Hamas... Not Hamas... Hamas... Okay not Hamas... Now the important one is Hezbollah or is it Hezbollah What is it this will be as important as Kiev or Kiev This will be how you identify yourself

1:49:45 Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Okay, just... Well we're gonna keep on our merry way with hummus and hezbollah. Hezbollah! I'm not going to pronounce it that way sorry. Yeah I think you should. So this was I believe on Al Jazeera or someplace and it was the Hamas, the Hamas leader. And I just thought it was interesting because there's an analysis in the third clip that is unique. Hamas' political leader has given a televised address In it Ismail Haniyeh accused Israel's Prime Minister of dis- Is his name Ishmael?

1:50:32 Literally is it? I started over and then listen to the way he now this is Al Jazeera, so they're gonna pronounce at the air a arabic way yes And I didn't, it's different. In it Ismail Haniyeh accused Israel's Prime Minister of destroying the entire region to save himself and his family from prison He said Hamas had offered Benjamin Netanyahu government a prisoner swap deal as a start of way out of the conflict and he called on countries especially United States to stop supplying weapons to Israel Alright So this has to do with Netanyahu getting arrested?

1:51:13 Yeah, I mean that's why Hamas end up doing this attack to begin with it did help him. Okay well let's just listen to this guy. One of the major reasons for this war was Netanyahu, who's leading a far-right racist and fascist group. And he is thinking of saving himself and his family from prison even at the expense of destroying the entire region Before the war we met with all parties about the continued rule of Netanyahu and his fascist government about their reckless behavior Wow! So these guys are in line with the protesters? Who were protesting Netanyahu You're talking about the protesters in Israel Yes

1:52:00 He said we met with all the groups. Well, you know that this is the weird thing about it is the queers for Palestine Let's keep going if you look wait If you look into the that judicial thing and he really started digging into it It goes back to one of the justices who became they had of it back in the 90s Who was a super progressive? That started implementing all kinds of I would have to use the word, and I don't like it. Woke policies in Israel and started introducing... In fact there was a picture in the Israeli Jerusalem News saying that Tel Aviv is the world's biggest gay city! Yes There's something up with trans-Maoism, the Israeli judicial system

1:52:47 Palestine and it's none of it makes any real sense but it's interesting to kind of let these guys talk and maybe we'll figure it out. I think it makes perfect sense what I'm hearing him say, well listen again he said I met with all the groups who hated Netanyahu because he's a dictator which is all predicate then all based on this these protests including the factions of the IDF if we had the clips even the lesbian helicopter pilot. We said, oh no we're just not going to serve this guy anymore and we're not going to participate and now this Ismail guy is saying well we had meetings with them and you know Netanyahu's a bad guys gotta go because you know queers for Palestine I guess. Before the war we met with all the parties about the continued rule of Netanyahu and his fascist government about their reckless behavior

1:53:38 They're desecrating Christian and Muslim holy sites, continuing with illegal and unlawful settlements. Unleashing settlers to kill and harass our people! We have warned repeatedly that this will not go unpunished It will explode at any time to curb this criminal and his gang Unfortunately these warnings fell on deaf ears as our allies continue to back him with these racist fascist policies What happened to death the Jews? That's what this guy is supposed to be saying Now it's all death to Netanyahu. This is very interesting. deal and ending with the revival of the political and diplomatic movement towards the establishment of an independent state, with Jerusalem as its capital with a right to self-determination. However Netanyahu and his gang are misleading his own people and providing false promises which cannot or will not be achieved."

1:54:44 Wow, this is very interesting. I mean who knows what the truth is of course but... No no we have to assume everyone's lying. Everyone's lying! Everybody's fault in it yeah But at least you get their side of the- Their side of it So he saying that because Netanyahu himself is stopping the peaceful ideas that are on the table which is uh am I hearing two state solution with Jerusalem as an independent state? That's kind of said Jerusalem being the capital of the new Palestine isn't a non-starter no matter what they like to think. Although it's kind of divided city as it is. Alright, now we get to part three which has an analysis in here I thought was interesting

1:55:29 We remind the countries and states supporting this Zionist regime legitimizing the pogrom perpetrated by them against our people. Chiefly, the United States of America we remind them that they must back down on these obsolete imperialistic policies and refrain from providing military aid to this fascist regime. We call on them to stop preventing international will aiming at ending hostilities and opening border crossings This is what we witnessed in the UN General Assembly To them, we say you are standing on the wrong side of history and the present. The region beyond cannot enjoy peace and stability as long as our established rights of the Palestinians are not restored – the rights to freedom, independence and return of refugees."

1:56:13 Well, joining us from Washington DC now is Benjamin Friedman. He's the policy director at Defense Priorities a US foreign policy think tank. What do you think is Hamas' strategy here even as we continue to see Israel's relentless bombardment? Well it seems like Hamas is now eager to get public opinion globally on their side and push Israel to negotiate some kind of settlement. I don't think Hamas imagines that they'll get a real movement towards, you know, a Palestinian state and with Jerusalem as its capital any time in the near future but by sounding reasonable more like the PLO

1:56:57 or a non-annihilationist Palestinian movement. I guess they think they can get, win more public support and maybe increase pressure on Israel to stop the war and negotiate. Okay so that seems to be working Because of all the protests we see in this country with all these kids and who's yeah, like I said in the newsletter There's a picture in there who is producing all these Palestinian flags. Yeah, that's a moneymaker The same people did the Ukraine flags hello

1:57:35 Yeah, yeah. Well whoever those people... that flag company should you know they should go public so let's just end to this In your view does Israel actually have an endgame here or is this largely about vengeance? uh... it seems like you know vengeance is playing a large role if it's not all that's going on it's hard to figure out what the israeli uh... and game is or you know how this war uh... serves up political and they say they want to annihilate hamas that's easy to understand given what happened uh... on the seventh but uh... it's it's uh... i think not gonna be possible to have anyone run

1:58:17 Gaza, as long as there's Palestinians there other than Hamas or something that looks like it. Hamas 2.0 may be a more radical ISIS-like version so I don't think the Israelis want to be in charge of Gaza running it as a police state So it's difficult for me to figure out where they think this is all headed other than maybe just going day by day and killing as many Hamas fighters as they can and figuring the politics will be worked out eventually. How concerned do you think is America not to get drawn into a wider regional conflict, and yet there's still no call from Joe Biden for ceasefire? Well yeah the president hasn't called for a ceasefire beyond this humanitarian pause thing that the administration has

1:59:06 been repeating, and I don't think they will. I don't think they feel whatever is in their deepest hearts, I don't think they feel politically able to separate themselves that much from Israel So I think avoiding escalation should be the US main goal, most realistic goal politically in avoiding getting drawn into war with Iran. And one way I think we do that is by limiting the damage Iranian proxy forces or linked militias in Iraq and Syria can do which means I think getting our forces out of Iraq and particularly Syria which I think we should have left years ago at any case.

1:59:49 There's so many people been at first of all war is great for business. Great wars are rackets medley Butler And it is great for business we talked about this on the Horowitz show Wartime economies are always winners, but after the war it's a nightmare yeah like after Vietnam Yeah, the 70s were a nightmare. So on one hand we have the political part which is hey man we should call for a pause come on Israel you should pause not ceasefire but we called it a pause this and then we have the White House and the Democrat Party in America are all pro-

2:00:29 pro-Palestine, let's just call it anti Islamophobic. And then we have the Republican side which is the crazy Christian Mike Johnson oh he's gonna give more money and more weapons to to the Jews! So you can see how these lines are being divided. I mean it's so obvious and the true winner of course is the military-industrial complex, and they are all over this thing like yeah let's get into Iran! Yeah come on ABC do some stories! The US launched retaliatory strikes this week in Syria against Iranian proxies. There was an attack the next day

2:01:08 on American troops. There have been about 20 so far, is Iran really getting the message and if they don't what happens? Well the president has been very straightforward on this If American troops are attacked by Iran and its proxies we will respond We did respond if attacks continue we will respond And I think that Iranians understand our message And we of course are taking every measure necessary to protect our forces, to increase our vigilance and to work with other countries in the region to try to keep this conflict that is currently in Israel and Gaza from spinning out into a regional conflict. But the risk is real and therefore our vigilance is high and the steps that we are taking to deter that and prevent that are serious systematic and ongoing."

2:01:55 The steps we're taking to get into the war, we just need to drop one word proxies. If you can just say Iran instead of Iranian proxy... There's no way where is the evidence of this? Zero there's no evidence How about this has Gulf of Tompkins written all over it Oh No they attacked us again well let's show some pictures So I got a note from a father of a father or uncle, of one of the servicemen who is indeed at a Ford operating base in Syria. I mean this is all true we have bases there. It's not like a huge base like Iraq the green zone but of course we got bases there! We need to spend more money on military

2:02:39 And here is the Deutsche Welle. We weren't, by the way it should be mentioned we were never allowed to have a base there by the country itself but the sovereign nation no it's not like our bases in Germany where you know they like us because we spend money We're not doing anything for the Syrian economy, I can assure you. Here's Deutsche Welle asking what an escalation in the region could mean? Before Russia's invasion of Ukraine there was relatively little public awareness on how much the world relied on Ukraine for its supply of grain or how much Europe depended on Russia for its energy supply Now as a devastating conflict continues to unfold in the Middle East

2:03:19 Some are beginning to wonder what the bigger economic ramifications might be. What do you think? What do you think the bigger economic ramifications might be? Could it be dead people, our babies die worse than your babies we kill your babies better is that what's important nah Especially when it comes to the global supply of oil which could be affected if Iran were to become more embroiled in the conflict The region is also a key shipping route with disruption to key waterways like the Suez Canal and the Strait of Hormuz potentially causing delays in deliveries. And earlier I spoke to Karsten Jetski, chief economist at ING. I asked him what a possible escalation involving Iran could mean for the global supply of oil? Indeed this is where this conflict will have bigger repercussions for the rest of the world as just looking at trade it's very naive

2:04:10 But oil is an extremely important one. We saw already when the terroristic attacks on Israel started that the oil prices started to surge if Iran, one way or the other was to be involved in this conflict, Iran being an important producer of oil if the entire Middle East would somehow or one way or the other be involved in this conflict with as a result, maybe even sanctions coming from the US on Iran and other countries. This would then clearly have a big impact on oil producing countries therefore we would see all prices going up if this is this conflict was to escalate We could really see all prices going above $100 per barrel very easily Oh! At least you know it's important

2:05:01 If the conflict escalates, oil will get more expensive. It's all so cynical! Yeah, just cynical and meanwhile America please whatever you do keep watching this Middle East region pay no attention to the Venezuelans freezing to the sidewalks in Chicago. Well Mike and Ray migrant families deeply concerned about the harsh elements not knowing how much longer it'll be before they get moved to shelters and as you might imagine parents especially worried about their kids Parents say exposure to the cold is making their kids sick. We don't know what to do, this Venezuelan mother of three confesses with the inevitable arrival of snow and bitter cold. We feel that one way or another she says we're trapped for now at least no CTA warming buses in the afternoon outside the snow-capped

2:05:58 tent village housing homeless immigrants at Chicago's 19th Police District. It is not just the father tells us that police officers are denying an indoor space for my son, he alleges. We reached out to police to get their assessment on sleeping arrangements at the 19th district news affairs referring us to the mayor's office You may be wondering if Illinois' Child Welfare Agency has concerns about kids spending their days and nights in the cold. A DCFS spokesperson says that the agency hasn't received any complaints, but didn't respond to a follow-up question about whether it would investigate or intervene on migrants behalf

2:06:39 And the mayor's press office in an evening news release reporting that warming buses are being provided by the Chicago Transit Authority and they are being positioned at 16 police districts from 8 p.m until 8 a.m You know, it's 24 degrees and snowing in Chicago This is... this is... here's our problems Leave everything else for what it is for a moment because that's all political And then these migrants, here's some... I didn't have warming buses. Yeah yeah and you get to go on board the bus and warm up. That's pathetic! So here's proof that the pictures you see of the southern border are just theater. It means real, of course

2:07:27 Haiti shuts flights to sneak migrants to USA. Haiti's sick of it people are going to Haiti getting on a plane flying into America where they get their paperwork right there in Haiti El Salvador says you know if You're coming from Africa and you want to go to America through, El Salvador We're gonna charge you $1,000 now you land here thousand dollars plus tax Then you can stay at our airport before it's time for you to fly on They're being flown in Turks and Caicos 15 daily flights We're being hoodwinked Amy Pope is brilliant. She keeps us focused on the migrants coming across the Rio Grande Mark Hall just told me sir mark Holly says Ecuador Panama all these countries that their people that's where they get their debit cards, they're lining up there a

2:08:25 It's a business. It's a business, it's a business! As long as we just... if we can just be honest about it and say this is what's going on We're being duped by our media whatever it can be called media Give me a break No, they do what they're told. Yes like stories like this Speaking of Florida the governor and presidential candidate Ron DeSantis is making news for his footwear So according to Politico three people described as expert shoemakers say DeSantis appears to be wearing height boosters inside his cowboy boots to make himself appear taller

2:09:01 Some observers have commented about his strangely shaped cowboy boots, but the governor who says he's 5'11 denies using lifts saying his boots are standard off-the rack. Yeah this is the headline! No this story was everywhere and they had him on some talk show... He was sitting there and they asked him his height Bill Maher I'm Bill Maher I think it was, I saw it as something else. Oh okay yeah But they uh he's so he's probably a 5'10 guy He like feels bad about the fact that Trump is like what 6'2", 6'3". Yes! Trumps a big tall dude

2:09:39 fat and he's a little guy, 5'10", not a petite male like some people. He is stocky, stocky, stocky. Yeah kind of stocky but that five ten I believe is the average height for the American male But the whole point is... He's not like a midget. But that's the headline news, that's what... He's got lifts in his boots! Dwayne Lifts! Politico! Politico, the bastion of political reporting in the United States. He's lying about his height. Dude we're so lost That is pathetic. Well, I have another pathetic thing because this got played... This is a talk video and this thing got played all over the place and instead of doing the punchline, I'll do it at the beginning. I believe that people have been suckered by this as bullcrap! Some guy

2:10:35 It's like a two camera, well it's not a two camera shoot but there is this character that is going around bitching about being called sir. Oh yes I saw the scene. And again I've seen people play and one of the people who played on their podcast you and I both know She goes on and plays it straight as oh my god. It's gone too far This guy is full of crap this is set up who was taking the movie a and then it gets weirder and weirder if no one notices the guys eating like three dozen oysters He's at the fanciest restaurants in town days out of Fred the ends up, and he's in a French bistro

2:11:14 dressed up as some sort of a French-looking guy with a dog. He's got a dog and he pushes around in the thing, the dog is dressed with it with a beret and... It's stupid! What podcast? Who played it?! I don't know who played on their podcasts There's somebody named Natalie that we both know. Oh goodness, on that podcast? That's not a podcast it's a YouTube show! Yeah okay well the YouTube show... But people everywhere have been playing this thing as an example of oh the pronoun thing has gotten too far but its really nothing to do with pronouns its about this guy being called sir and now we can play it and assume that this is bull crap. Talk. Tick-tock

2:11:59 Looks like he's having a nice feast. She-her? Yeah, it's okay it's all good But it was not all good I use she her pronouns I'm not sir oh yeah like it's like a knife in the heart I also did specifically ask ahead of time and not to be called sir yeah I'm just gonna go Okay, the sweet water starts at... okay. Not? You're just always like a knife it always hurts every single time I was wondering if there's a manager i could talk to about something that happened Yeah! I was called sir Oh okay It just really sucks every time it happens Sorry about that I don't need to be called ma'am I just need to not be called sir Thank you Can you call me Sir? Hey, I just want to tell you that

2:12:50 The person who gave me this called me sir. Call me, sir Just like it kind of just hurts a lot to get called sir Very good thank you so much no oh I'm yeah Thank You Nothing like a good misgendering. It does it is a knife in the gut when I get called sir, I Feel like I need to tell him that I need to tell him but that hurt it hurts more Though and it's not intentional because it means like this did this is sir to him? I know you didn't mean it But I'm not asserted so far. It's okay. I know you didn't mean it. It's just you know it hurts I know when people clock me. It's fine, but like it doesn't hurt Thank You. I'm not sir

2:13:35 Not sir, not sir. But the guy who dropped the food off he called me Sir twice in a row. Thank you I appreciate that. Right so there's only two possible reasons for this the most likely how do i become a TikTok star? The second most likely how do I get out of paying my bill He's eating all kinds of dynamite, oysters, French stuff. Nice beautiful food and you call the manager every single day I need to talk to the manager he talks a manager and get it for free Well that's probably that's a good bit but this whole thing seems staged yeah to an extreme nobody cares about

2:14:20 I mean, you heard about the pronouns. But this sir thing is new and it's bull crap. And this guy if you saw him he's got lipstick on and he's got a bouffant hairdo and he's got his prissy. Restaurants are afraid not going to call them Sir anyway. Restaurants are afraid of getting called out going viral on TikTok and then being protested there. I think about beginning the free food may be the gimmick that's I'm going to try it myself here in Fredericksburg. Did you just call me, sir? It's like a knife to my heart. Yes it is. Like a knife every time. May I talk to the manager? I mean, I'm really insulted. Oh, free? Okay thank you!

2:15:04 They left that out of the video With that I'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you The man who put the C in the ARC. Yes, welcome to the ark ladies gentlemen Say hello to my friend on the other end one only mister Well money you miss rather than a ship sea boots on the ground feet near subs in the water and all the dames and Knights Out there in the morning to the trolls in the troll room hanging around for quite a while 1837 today. I know you're going to say it's low, but we are two hours and 15 minutes into the show a normal drop off is to be expected these will be the new numbers as long as we have our... It's not low! 1800 on Thursday is average Well then were above average because were 2 hours and 15 minutes into the show this is good news well that's good this is good

2:15:56 Good on you, trolls. And they've been pretty helpful today the trolls. They've been nice good to see them I love it almost 2,000 trolls in the troll room become a troll go to TrollRoom.io You know where you want to? It's where your home is Go join us there and you can troll along with everybody else while you listen to The live stream NoAgendaStream.com or try a modern podcast app at PodcastApps.com Actually, I've been using the upgraded version of Podcast Guru lately. Which yeah it's on Android. I'm still using Graphene OS but that's basically Android It is good! It is snappy and does all the live stream stuff and everything you want to do so try that one out podcastguru at podcastapps.com It's a value for value proposition here on this show

2:16:55 We've been doing it for over 16 years. People are still amazed, how does that work? Well you got to ask people first of all you gotta treat people with respect don't call them your fans or your audience fans yeah fans we get a lot of fans helping us out no we don't actually have fans and they have the opposite go look at Norwich on the social we got no fans No! We have producers who take this job very seriously and critics yes And they take it very seriously and we appreciate that And they do all kinds of groovy stuff that we could otherwise never afford to do. Just like noagendaartgenerator.com, Sir Paul Couture wasn't doing that? We'd never have that! We don't have the budget to have someone make that maintain that monitor it from nut jobs... I mean that's a beautiful example of some time and talent in the trifecta of time talents and treasure then we really love

2:17:48 our producers who update art there and give us art to work with. Just as we love our producers on knowagenthesocial.com, of course! And they're free to criticize us which happens a lot. Which they seem to be very happy to do. Yes! Adam's shitting on the people that pay his rent. Really? We're giving you a free product here, you only have to give us value back if it's worth anything to you." Most of the people who make that complaint don't never contribute. They never contribute. I had one guy quit this show recently and I don't have his note but I should read it... You two Jew lovers! I've had it with you!

2:18:36 Hey, there's the opening of the show right there. Opening up the show. I've had it with you now. I think we're pretty much in the middle on that and try to just show all sides of what you're not hearing because you're being mind controlled no matter where you are your media is trying to control your thoughts, your actions and with that comes social media Anyway, back to the value for value. I want to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1603 we titled that one Rolling Start and it was at the second time in a row which means she's on deck for a hat trick Dame Kenny Ben

2:19:17 This was such a nice piece that even the artists were posting like, That's it! Well after Dame Kenny band we shouldn't even try to compete. It's not worth it anymore. This was the very evil looking pumpkin with the hearing aids and nice little sound waves going into... These were the uh- Oh you know I got a note about that actually About the high-powered hearing aids. Yes, I got yeah, I got that note to breed it I'm glad you grabbed on to the high powered hearing aids it caught my attention as well and this person works for I'll not say where, but in the Starkey company who are a hearing aid manufacturer. I just want to provide a few points of clarification how high powered aids are in fact a category they output greater than 120 dBs and gain over the counter can only output two max or 104 DB in gain. I've dug through the M5M can't find more info on what they are but it is in fact the Starkey... I think they call it the power

2:20:19 version of the power BTE behind-the-ear hearing aids. I thought you were gonna read the note about there's also a guy who had this phenomenon was of hearing voices Did you get that note? I think we talked about that on the last show. Oh, okay well i don't remember They also but this company does sell to...does provide the veterans assistance regardless I'd like to know who the audiologist is because this should not be happening to anybody But yeah, tinnitus also mispronounced as tinnitus. There can be all kinds of extra frequencies that come along with that it can drive you crazy! Can drive you crazy! There was someone on X who's like, Curry, you know what are talking about hearing aids? Okay alright I think i'm an expert at hearing aids.

2:21:13 Why would anyone say that? Do they hate you?" Yeah, just basic hates. Not a donor not not a producer trust me on that! Just some guy who hates you... It happens I'm very hateable. Dame Kenny Ben thank you very much Dame Kenny Ben we really appreciate what you've done once again let's take a look at some of the art that was submitted as well A lot of pumpkins, of course. Lotta pumpkins! And I really like Nico Simes' pumpkin. I liked the all-seeing eye pumpkin. I thought it was a great piece and you nixed me on that one. Yeah, I didn't like it at all actually because... No, you nixed me on that. ...I thought it was... I didn't like the drawing that was... and I didn't like the all seeing eyes... No, you didn't like it. It's cliche. You hated it. I said it as cliche. Yeah, you hated it. I hated it. You hated it? I did. Was hate dripping from you. Hate?! We both thought the pearl clutch was cute

2:22:03 From Dame of the Absurd? Yeah, but it wasn't that cute. But it wasn't clear enough... I mean yeah we were clearly looking for a- I liked a little- I did like the Amaryllis Fox videotape or Gentleman's Club, the little thing but it was too small and couldn't even read Amaryllis Fox on it There's another one, the high powered Tantaniel's High Powered Hearing Aid Thing has all the text is unreadable! Yeah, I know. I don't know what she's thinking. That's too bad We're not going to use, what's his name? The Matthew Perry thing. Did you have some bonus content for the donation segment about Matthew Perry? You sent me a... No I mean, I had that thing I sent you to put into the show notes which people can go reference it's a rumble show where they go on and on about Matthew Perry is gonna blow the lid off pedophilia That's why they killed him

2:23:01 And that's why they killed him and I'm thinking well, okay sure. And my comment in the thread that was floating around was where was the... if you have to have that kind of information and keep threatening it for years? You better have a dead man switch someplace. Exactly! In other words something gets mailed out the minute your dead Do you have a deadman switch for your deepest darkest secrets? I do a bunch stuff goes in the mail Really?! All hell is gonna break loose. I believe you. All hell's gonna break loose! I believe you... Oh, ladies and gentlemen John C. Dvorak has a dead man switch nice hmm do i get anything or is it just going to like the no you're a part of it you're gonna be doomed over for you

2:23:50 Thank you very much Dave Kenny Ben for your for your artwork. I see a lot of art has already been submitted for this episode Thank You artists, you're all highly appreciated all the work that you do Of course we want to thank our financial donors part of the treasure of the trifecta and we always go for our executive and associate executive producers first, along with today more PhD candidates who will be awarded the coveted No Agenda PhD in Media Deconstruction. And we kick it off with Anthony Sikowsky from Highland New York who comes in with 1333.33. In The Morning? No Jingles! No Karma!.

2:24:31 This donation is for two people. Okay, 1,000 is for my knighthood and PhD the 333 dot 33 is from my brother Mike if you could please deduce us both You've been de-douche My brother hit me in the mouth over 10 years ago now I haven't missed an episode since 2017 Please Knight Me Sir Anthony protector of installation 07 And thank you for your courage whatever that means we're happy to do that Happy to do this Thank you Kyle Selig in Kaukauna, Wisconsin came in with $1,000.02 and he wrote a handwritten two notes

2:23:50 Thank you very much Dave Kenny Ben for your for your artwork. I see a lot of art has already been submitted for this episode Thank You artists, you're all highly appreciated all the work that you do Of course we want to thank our financial donors part of the treasure of the trifecta and we always go for our executive and associate executive producers first, along with today more PhD candidates who will be awarded the coveted No Agenda PhD in Media Deconstruction. And we kick it off with Anthony Sikowsky from Highland New York who comes in with 1333.33. In The Morning? No Jingles! No Karma!.

2:24:31 This donation is for two people. Okay, 1,000 is for my knighthood and PhD the 333 dot 33 is from my brother Mike if you could please deduce us both You've been de-douche My brother hit me in the mouth over 10 years ago now I haven't missed an episode since 2017 Please Knight Me Sir Anthony protector of installation 07 And thank you for your courage whatever that means we're happy to do that Happy to do this Thank you Kyle Selig in Kaukauna, Wisconsin came in with $1,000.02 and he wrote a handwritten two notes

2:25:12 He wrote one in with the check and then another envelope came in shortly thereafter. And within their notes are very hard to read, just my two cents he writes I would be honored to call you both friends. We're your friends Kyle. Both friends. I did it for the education you both provided. And then another note comes in a different piece of paper with the three-hole punch, she says if it bounces I lived right! Nice I'll get right with you John John. You better see better submit that check right away Good bounces Well, actually when JJ was going through this and she looks at this notion if it bounces I lived Right and she says to me is this a suicide no No

2:26:08 Does he add any jingles or anything? No, that was it. What do you see in those two notes? All right Kyle thank you Yeah, thanks Cal. Servant Hamilton Ohio 1000 working at the university as a dude named Ben for 37 years listening to so many boring conferences lectures and meetings but never got a PhD now after 1,000 episodes of no agenda and in $1 an episode I have a PhD in media deconstruction yes you do servants I'm getting one as well Jay has put mine in the mail very excited I will have it framed and put it on my on my wall

2:26:44 You're all a shame. No, I'm going to put it in the studio display it proudly you bet okay? Yep yep yep yep Jeffrey Corbett's up and from Hamilton Ohio $1,000 love the show please knight me Sir corby Thanks, then thank you note sir Cox in Austin Texas Maybe we'll see you sir Cox on the 18th at the meetup 1,000 This is my birthday, Friday the 3rd and this should make me Baron Dr. Cox I'd also like to announce my mother's dame name of Dame Rosie Villa protector of wall pockets as she was damed on her birthday last June 7th and now has chosen her name And you've made it official Sir Cox Baron soon-to-be thank you Lee C Noire $1,000 and he sent a note in which i have right here

2:27:43 I don't have the, just have the PDF. Hello John! Not Adam. I'm not Adam? Adam's not included? I can imagine how well yeah maybe I can how tough it can be to live...to do live content that's what he says so he's happy with our work ethic yes i don't want to be that guy who tells you how you screwed up that's why you're not listed It's directed at me. How you screwed up and here is where I want to avoid the word but. Adams great! In the last Kebbalist shows, you commented that the dead attackers in Israel did not have a reason to wear body cams unless as you suggest they were going to cover themselves legally in case they got sued which makes so much sense

2:28:43 When this happened, I was disappointed. But all politics is local and that attack was at least as much political as anything people that in that circumstance that choose to wear body cams anywhere you get a body cam to be honest about it. It's a GoPro who were told to wear body cams for local celebrations of their success or at least have their activities probably never thought about lawyers. Lawyers were the first thing you thought off You can speculate on somebody's motivation if you're that far from what they think. For instance, quote a good way to spend my day is going into another country and killing families in their beds. Oh man this is ghoulish Your instinct seems to be

2:29:31 seems to be to dig around for other perspectives and you're good at it like any other human being. You have your bias, we all do yours is probably more like mine which makes you interesting to listen to thanks no jingles no karma alright thanks for the note okay then again I said mentions a couple of other things Also, I've listened to recent podcasts and it sounds like I can get a knighthood and degree on the cheap. So here I am." And then he wants to use his name...two different names because you got a knighthood coming up and it'll be on his diploma. He has to send the details into noagendarings.com. Soon-To-Be Sir Lee C. Noir. Yes indeed!

2:30:15 And Sir David of Ross from Colorado Springs comes in with 50604. Dear John and Adam, here's a number station for you! Pay attention comrades I hope your day is filled with warmth and sunshine and victory parades for the Texas Rangers and next year the Dallas Cowboys. I love you both 73s David kilo 5 Delta Papa Yankee Sir David of Ross well 73s Kilo five Alpha Charlie Charlie I'll give you a gratuitous rubble-izer There you go. Gratuitous number station for you

2:30:54 Nisha Pat in Boseville, Bosayville or something. It's some French it's in Quebec so it's pronounced in the Quebecois. I am Nisha Pat the French Scandinavian thanks for all you do my life would not be the same without you! I donated with PayPal 369 which is 533 55 Canadian please play an order Douchebag me no like it. You've been de-douched and respect. All righty then, let's see we have anonymous from Orlando Let me open up the note here and

2:31:46 Hold on a second, where is page two? Yeah page two I got it. Is it one of those long ones no its the short one here we go In the morning John and Adam first time what are you drinking? Juice bowler First time plus birthday donation Man did you hear that little ssss I can recognize this microphone's amazing What is your microphone is that the Heil? HEIL! Yeah, it's a hile. Wish I could send more to reflect the value I find listening each week No you know what? I'm gonna disagree with you if this is your max You sent us a lot! You reached the top This is highly appreciated However keeping my three human resources out of terrible public schools takes top priority these days Love and light from the deep blue bleeding heart of Orange County Florida where critical thinking is prohibited

2:32:35 P.S., I haven't heard anyone tell you this in a while, so keep doing what you're doing! You bet and uh... And i'll give you de-douchings since it's first time. You've been de-douched. Brendan Takash or Tekashe or Takashe in Western Springs Illinois 333 switcheroo switcheroo switcheroo I TM John and Adam the raffle was held at Sir Spooky's Halloween spooktacular this past Sunday 17 people attended and contributed please credit sir LQTM as the winner of this executive producer title yes full meetup report will be sent to Adam jingles don't eat me Joe Bojiden JCD donate

2:33:23 Regards, Brendan Takash Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. Eat you Bojied and your scary so scary! Donate! Donate! Donate to me baby! I should mention that sir LQTM said in the separate note Saying thank to all the attendees to Sir spooky of the Elm Street's meetup for making this credit possible Also, thanks for making me feel welcome at my first meet up. Yeah one first time in big winner Please grant karma to all the attendees and kindly play JCD spooky donate which is out there already See y'all at the next one

2:34:10 Alright, then we have another switcheroo which is from Lady Vox. Dame of the Gateway. Switcheroo please credit my donation to System Sam! Samuel Corp I'm not interested in climbing the peerage ladder but i love bringing others to the roundtable hello adam and john please do not misquote me to your million plus listeners i don't hate you i never said i did oh i know what this is On the last show, at the very end we had Lady Vox with her show next on the stream and this is Lady Vox who said I'm just not donating to them anymore. Then she's right! She did not say that she hated us In fact she doesn't hate us No she didn't say that she hated us She says she's not donating anymore It was faux pas I am wrong, I repent, I apologize forgive me

2:35:01 I just didn't appreciate your sometimes condescending or entitled tune towards people who give their time, talent and treasure in so many ways to help sustain this amazing community you've inspired. How come i'm not allowed to be... condescending or entitled on no agenda social. Everybody does that! I'm not allowed to troll... Yeah, everybody is condescending and entitled on no agenda social. To extremes. I'm not allowed to do it for some reason I have to be holy But you the guy who set the whole thing up has to shut up and sit down That's pretty much it What is this? I'm not allowed to troll And actually it was a mistake because

2:35:41 If you go back and look at the thread, which I do not advise anybody to do. And this is part of the problem with social media and Mastodon in particular... ...I made a comment to the other person on the thread and it was like dude, you want a hug? That was my condescending tone! But i'm not allowed to do that because it's no good! I have to be a bootlicking lackey to all This is why just don't post much Bootlicking lackey that's right. I need to just be a LACKEY I love the V for V model. It's what drew me to the show in the first place and what keeps me here, but V for V is about more than just financial support. I never for one moment abandoned the model! Well no you did... Yeah ya did You said it, you said I'm just not giving- I'll give my money to other podcasts

2:36:29 She's gonna get mad about this now too. Yeah, I will let her! If you listen around the stream you will understand that I participate contribute and collaborate with my mouth my mind of my money independent media has become my cause and my purpose since M5M literally scared my father to death during Shmovid You have his WW2 ham radio bug? I do and I really appreciate this I treasure that actually That is in my in my studio in my museum What'd you do? She gave me her dad's World War II ham radio bug. Like a, you know it's a Morse code key only it's a bug so goes...it works a little differently Yeah I know what that is But she gave that to me Wow! A long time ago yeah Yeah I remember that now because I think he took a picture of and sent it around I wouldn't have given something that special to someone I hate So was hers Yes yes Huh?! I defend podcasting with a visceral intent Shes not asking for it back Is she asking for it back No no she's good egg

2:37:22 Good egg. She's a good egg. Okay, I defend podcasting with a visceral intensity that nearly got me my smoking hot sir into a bar fight last night You you got into a fight over those women? I know the type so please don't let him say that to you Hey man podcasting sucks So please don't ever tell this audience I hate you. I apologize, you do not hate me We're all just here to knock the sharp edges off each other man For a better community i'd never withdraw my support from a noble cause and then Best regards Lady Vox Dame of the Gateway P.S Sir Spencer of Bowl after bowl would really appreciate it if JCD would unblock him on No Agenda Social

2:38:08 I humbly request this on his behalf. He's a glorious asset to Gitmo Nation. Unblock him, John." You know, I don't know how to unblock... You go to your profile and right there it says... I don't care. No one knows. Lady Vox... Okay, it's under advisement. Okay. Lady Vox but yeah I misquoted you, I apologize however but I get to troll too I feel like no agenda social is no agenda social. I want to be able to hug man, come on that's not condescending or entitled that's just trolling but you know... Alright we're onward. Onward yes last one

2:38:50 Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood Colorado. Jobs Karma. For a resume that gets results go to ImageMakersInc dot com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list There you go. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! And that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers and PhD awardees, our graduates of No Agenda. Thank you all very much we highly appreciate what you do the PhD course is real the titles are real You are an executive or associate executive producer of episode 1604 of The NO AGENDA Show put that anywhere where titles are recognized it's recognized all over Hollywood while it still exists

2:39:51 Put it on IMDB.com, you'll see Hollywood is there and you'll be recognized here It's totally valid and John's gonna take us through to the 50s And we'll get to our Knightings our PhD graduates etc I would definitely put it on my LinkedIn profile too Sir Tooth Fairy Valparaiso Indiana $160.40 Sir Bates in Bloomington Minnesota 16016 Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, Minnesota 160.04 These are the special 160 that basically the Kepler supernova donations be huge promotion We got three people like great idea when I saw them like this is gonna go nowhere It's not a good promotion it wasn't even my idea who do we blame Jay?

2:40:49 No, no it was one of our producers that sent a note in because he said you know there's nothing else going on I want you to try this. Yeah thanks. Well I got three Sandra Edmonds or did i do Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester New Hampshire? You have now! Okay, Sandra Edmonds in Lakeside, Colorado... California. 120. Baron Ladekin $100 from Houston Texas Kevin McLaughlin he's here he is there's a short list again we're not to be doing better 8008 1604 boob donation and these got the no pun He's the Duke of Luna Oh! And punless? Punless wow okay

2:41:37 Shelby Diamond star photography and this planes Illinois 80 he's happy 16th okay T Dana Dana Carroll in Laughlin Nevada 72 27 And then I got one, I can't get even read because this is for some reason wrote a long note. He wrote a note to me David Sir David Jarman from North Turamura New South Wales and came in with 72 and very nice note i appreciate what you wrote there and he came in with the second donation of 63 85 not sure why but uh he does ask

2:42:26 Why do I have to pay a hundred and... he says $1,640.55 in dollary dues to get $1000 USD? Back in not 2009 it was parity! Yeah you gotta question what happened there What happened? It happens all the time we had parity with Canada for awhile too during the Iraqi war. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord North Carolina 6006 Small boobs. Bernie Adema in Hinton, Iowa. 5110. We haven't heard from Sir Bernie for a while. He's in the Meetup Report!

2:43:08 Sir Luke Rayner in London UK, 55. And now we have $50 donors and again we have a shortlist again today. Jill Woods in Ocean Grove New Jersey Kyle Mann in Cincinnati Ohio Julie Minadeo in Costa Mesa California Ryan Sharp in Huntsville Alabama Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia. Justin Hellner in Vine Grove Kentucky. Shauna Norberg in Seattle Washington Tony Lang in Castle Pines Colorado Dotted Mind in Lincolnshire UK and Jordan on the last but not least is very short list of 36 total Jordan Hoinoe in Salem Donahalem Oregon

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2:48:59 collection of producers who are out there organizing these. It is more necessary now than ever in today's crazy world, you just get out you just put your phone in your back pocket turn it off hang out with some people have a brewski or whatever you want to do and just chat and have a good time meet children from other lands And this is what they did in Fort Wayne in October. Here's their meetup report. Hello Adam and John, this is Shannon from Fort Wayne Many believe and it's likely true that everybody in attendance had a great time Look at that juice! PBR Street Gang, in the morning Thank you for your courage Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne thank you for your courage Hi, It's Shelly from Fort Wayne thank you for your courage This is Jared from Fort Wayne, not the subway guy.

2:49:52 And we have a nice fine crowd of fine folks here. I'm just gonna pass the phone around Sir Matt Decker in the morning, shout out to Dangerous Dan couldn't make it but shout out to him This is Baronet Benjamin We had pizza beautiful In the morning! In the morning this is Sir Bernie Adamo from Mitten Iowa attending my first meeting out here So, I hope you and John and Adam are doing well. Good morning in the morning to Gitmo Nation! Thank you for your courage for everybody coming out here today and connection is protection Respect we much We must we Mitch Much which that's much bitch be committed

2:50:29 Nailed it. Fantastic, great report we got a written report from Sir spooky of the Elm Streets The Halloween spooktacular meetup was one of the friendliest good time was a friend fiendishly good time I'm sorry it was one of the highest attended suburban Chicago Meetups happy to report that if you people were costumes curiously The first couple to attend came dressed as federal agents Was it a costume or their uniform? Can't be too sure. We raffled off some horror movies, a cozy blanket from the Noah Jenner shop and credit for the donation we got that earlier. A generous group of producers managed to raise the pot to the executive level ultimately Sir LQT was the lucky winner of the credit It was his first meetup Donation 333 is coming via PayPal The final highlight of the night was watching a very special episode of Swamp Thing Yes your performance as rock star Nathan Stone

2:51:24 elevated and otherwise goofy and baffling plot. You had more screen time than the titular Swamp Thing himself, and for that we're grateful! I look forward to screening it again next year." And thank you very much for that report... Brandon Sounds like it was a very fine meetup indeed. Here's what's on the calendar for today, New Hampshire's Meet Up at the Community Oven should kick off in just a bit and that's in Epping, New Hampshire The Five Forks first Thursday inaugural meet up at Bull Winkles Tavern in Simpsonville South Carolina six o'clock today The yeah, no November Northern Wake. No agenda meet up six o'clock at Compass Rose Brewing in Raleigh North Carolina underway in just about an hour from now tomorrow the second official Vancouver Canada Meetup for 2023 let me reserve a place for you at Lou's

2:52:12 Ludicia, Ludicia pizza. Seven o'clock Vancouver British Columbia Candinavia on Saturday fun and Frisco two o'clock at Sky House Frisco station Frisco Texas and finally on Sunday our next show day Central Florida meet up two o'clock at Hourglass Brewing in Longwood Florida reminder the keeper and I will be at the Austin Sunset Valley in this Doc's backyard meetup on November 18th and at the Indianapolis Indiana Meet Up on December 4th There's going to be people from neighboring states coming to that meetup. It's going to be quite the scene, I believe and we're very excited to be there. No Agenda Meetups it's a great place to get together with people who think the same who don't get triggered by stuff who aren't mind controlled by the media and who know that connection is protection no agenda meetups dot com if you can find one near you start one yourself it's easy and always a party

2:53:09 Hang out with all the nights and days Be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame Be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Well, I only have one ISO. And it is what it is so I'll play it. Wow! I have one ISO too. Let me play mine. WOW That's my ISO. WOW Can you beat that? Can you beat that? I think, I think I do beat it. Fascinating! We could do them both they're so short. Fascinating Wow How about the other way okay hmm let me try the other way around wow fascinating okay sold sold we'll do it live on the fly Do it live. Do it live. Do it live. So I have one goofy clip I want to play although it could be at the end of this show

2:54:06 Hold on, hold on a minute. If you're gonna do something goofy, let's just make sure we don't do anything important It's all bump, it's all down. I have long COVID explained. Yeah. New Lake and Death Valley? I want to do COVID on... There's some great stuff for Sunday the WhatsApp gate with Boris Johnson's uh the WhatsApps about you know this big inquiry about Oh okay we'll do that on Sunday but well i do have one more serious one I want to get out of the way from you. No don't do anything serious or something funny! Okay well I got the one funny this has been going around This is the um A clip that's been floating around because it is so funny. It is from an Australian news channel about, uh... It's the Oztv biotech story. An Australian biotech company has developed a new treatment it hopes will prevent people dying from COVID vaccine

2:54:57 That is, wow. Who needs that? We can predict it for you! That's crazy. All right I'll do a crazy one this is just a couple of new terms It's only 58 seconds They had the world... The United Nations World Cities Day held in Turkey A Hey! In Turkey A And her excellency, Emin Erdogan. I guess that President Erdogan's wife is an excellency. She gave a speech

2:55:36 as did the what's-his-face Guterres, but there was a new term in here that I really liked. The key to every global change is hidden in urbanization however the importance of cities has gained a different dimension in the modern world where urbanization is growing at an unstoppable will pace. Research shows that by 2050, 7 out of 10 people will live in cities. Rapid urbanization brings with it many crises and tests for us. One of the most important problems it has raised is undoubtedly climate change which has turned our earth into a bleeding globe.

2:56:20 A bleeding globe? That's the new term. Our Earth, thanks to climate change our Earth is now a bleeding globe Wow that was my thinking exactly wow wow all right everybody so we do have some good stuff for Sunday I have a ton of big pharma related things along with COVID and more climate change We just had to give you the important stuff today So aren't you glad you made it? Aren't you glad you're here? Aren't you glad you downloaded? Aren't you glad to subscribe to our podcast hit the subscribe button and that alarm bell pound it Coming up next on no agenda stream we have Oh podcasting 2.0 I hear the latest about what's going on in in podcasting 2.0 We've got a bomb Iran end of show mix

2:57:21 with, uh... Man some old ones there. Donald is in there I'll put it all on the credits Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country It's here in FEMA Region number 6 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain and we have our summer it's continuing! I am John C. Dvorak Oh well winter has kicked in here it is 37 degrees outside. Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA until Sunday adios mofos a hooey hooey and such! What country's got a feeling in the ceiling?

2:58:15 In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them and then bomb them again. Bomb them! We need to kill and bomb them! Bomb them! We need to kill and bomb them! Bomb them! We need to bomb them! We need to kill them and bomb them again! Somebody's gonna drop a nuke here. I don't know who it is, but i don't want to watch it We need to kill them!

2:59:12 Bomb them, bomb them. Bomb them and bomb them again eh? We need to kill them! Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again, eh? And bomb them again, eh? Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again, eh? And bomb them again, eh? Bomb them, bomb them. Bomb them and kill them! Bomb them, bomb them

3:00:13 Bomb them and kill them! I'll bomb them again. Bomb them again, we need to kill them! I'll bomb-bomb-bomb them again. I'll bomb them again, We need to kill them... And bomb them again! Bom-Bom Iran! Bom-Bom-Bom-Bom-Bom Iran! Wow! Fascinating.