Episode 1582 · Thursday, 17 August 2023

Balconazi

A sweeping Georgia RICO indictment collides with a resurgence in wastewater surveillance and a total collapse of public safety in the streets of San Francisco.

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About this episode

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has proposed a March 4, 2024, trial date for Donald Trump and 18 associates, strategically landing one day before Super Tuesday. The sweeping RICO indictment targeting the former president and Rudy Giuliani focuses on the recruitment of alternate electors following the 2020 election. This legal escalation coincides with Special Counsel Jack Smith securing a search warrant for Trump’s Twitter data, resulting in a $350,000 fine for the platform now known as X.

In San Francisco, the Department of Health and Human Services advised federal employees at the Nancy Pelosi Federal Building to work from home due to rampant open-air drug use and safety concerns in the Soma district. Meanwhile, CBS News and former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb are highlighting a 12% rise in COVID-19 hospitalizations linked to the Eris variant. BioBot Analytics is now utilizing wastewater surveillance to track these spikes, a move critics suggest could justify the return of mail-in ballots. In Spain, Adam Curry reports on the rise of Balconazis, citizens who enforce lockdowns by shouting at neighbors from their terraces.

Republican candidate Vivek Ramaswamy made waves by performing Eminem’s Lose Yourself at the Iowa State Fair, while in Argentina, anti-establishment economist Javier Milei has surged in presidential primaries. The Maui wildfire response faces intense scrutiny after Emergency Operations Chief Herman Andaya defended the decision not to sound sirens during the blaze. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also examine the failure of AI-driven school bus routing in Kentucky and the expansion of Waymo driverless taxis in California.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, Vueling Airlines Travel Experience

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1582 from Sitges, Spain, and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry describes flying from Amsterdam to Barcelona via Vueling Airlines, comparing the low-cost carrier's cramped seating to Spirit Airlines. The discussion covers the expansion of the Barcelona airport and the local pronunciation of the city's name.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· vueling airlines· barcelona· sitges· travel

00:00 Banana melons. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Thursday August 17th 2023 this is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1582 This is no agenda Guaranteed lawful but awful and broadcasting live from 20 miles south of the Austin of Catalonia in Sitges Spain In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is shining and maybe we're gonna get a summer I'm John C. DuBois It's very weird everything sounds offer it maybe it's my ears no, no sounds weird what do you been eating? Uh...I had lobster soup

00:47 with rice. Well, I mean this is what you eat here in Catalonia. Any travel horror stories? Well, I do have some boots on the ground information We left Amsterdam on... when was it Tuesday or Monday? Can't even remember Tuesday i guess and we flew with the lovely Vueling Airlines This is kind of like the Spirit Airlines of Europe. Vueling? Vueling, v-e-u-l-i-n-g, vueling I think anybody in Europe is probably cringing when they hear that. Maybe... what a crazy name. Yeah, it must be a sub brand or something but the seats are almost standing

01:44 Remember that crazy picture? Yeah, I remember. That's kind of what it feels like! The whole idea put everybody standing... That's right and if you know the whole thing kind of felt like it was held together with gaffer tape Bailing wire, but okay we made it. It's nice you know the European Union no passports needed Man the airport in Barcelona because that's how I have to pronounce it John Barthelona That's not how you pronounce it in Barcelona That is exactly how they all pronounced so they also a letter from a barcelonian who made a big stink about that They don't say Barcelona. They say Barcelona

02:20 Well, they can maybe say Barcelona if you talk a little bit like that. He said Jason Calacanis is Barcelona! So the last time I was here was I think 2002? And a lot has changed, including the airport. This airport is huge! They've added on a whole new terminal. It's phenomenal how modern and big it is and we're in Sitges which is about 20 miles south of Barcelona. There are a lot of big trade shows there so I guess they need that big airport for sure And Cetus is what they call the, I guess the little Ibiza. Ibiza there's another one you can't say Ibiza which is how you spell it but Ibiza

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

Catalonia Independence Movement, Sagrada Familia, Global Social Justice

Adam Curry compares the political climate of Catalonia to Texas, noting the lingering effects of the 2017 secession referendum. During a tour of the Sagrada Familia church in Barcelona, Curry observes the global spread of social justice movements, including Black Lives Matter and trans activism. He reports that statues of Christopher Columbus are being removed in Spain and mentions ongoing debates regarding colonial reparations in the Netherlands and Suriname.

catalonia· sagrada familia· antoni gaudi· black lives matter· reparations· christopher columbus

03:05 A friend of mine here has been sick for a while and so that was actually the genesis of this entire trip, was to come and see him. And so we kind of put it all into our vacation. Oh that's sweet! Yeah well I grew up with him he was my next door neighbor in Holland Some observations. First of all, Barcelona is kind of like the Austin of Texas and Catalonia would be Texas if you recall they tried to secede from Spain about seven years ago was it 20 no 2017 remember that? And they were beating the people over the head who wanted to go vote in the referendum there's still some PTSD here about that

03:53 But that is the, uh... That's kind of the comparison people make. Catalonia is like Texas and Barcelona is kind of like Austin And man I learned a lot We had a tour guide who took us around the Sagrada Familia which is the Antoni Gaudi Church. I'm sure you've been here, I'm sure you've seen the church? Yeah, I've been in there. It's nice! You haven't been in the church... It'll be done it will be done in a hundred years Well no that's what they said when I was here in 2003 They said another 90 years and we'd be done but and there was no inside Now the inside is almost completed When I was there the inside was half-done Well when was that because I was here in 2003 you couldn't even go inside

04:42 It was about 2012. Oh yeah, okay that's right! That's when they started in 2010 they started building on the inside. Well you go inside and roam around and see a bunch of people watching other people do nothing No no it's beautiful now it's really...it was very impressive but doesn't matter. It wasn't impressive then is just an impressive church but its really It's the damnedest thing. It is, well when he... it was a project. Yeah it was a 250 year project that was really cool now walking around with a tour guide I learned some important things most important thing is Black Lives Matter is here as well not just in the Netherlands with The Black Peets where they have the Slay Museum and they've paid 100 million reparations to I think Indonesia

05:34 or something, and now Suriname wants reparations. But here it turns out those horrible, horrible Catalonians were part of the triangle trade of cotton in the US with textiles being made here from the US cotton which I did not know and they're taking down Christopher Columbus's statues The guy was from here What, in Spain they're taking down Christopher Collin? Yes! Not a bunch of maniacs. No but that's what I'm saying this is worldwide thing you don't hear about that but this Black Lives Matter and the trans stuff it's worldwide it's not just happening in our neck of the woods really quite amazing That's how you do it Yeah well it's not good Marxist revolutions aren't meant to be local Well there's a quote

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

IQOS Tobacco Heating System, Non-Combustible Product Review

Adam Curry shares his experience testing the IQOS non-combustible tobacco product while in Spain. He describes the device's mechanics, which involve heating a small tobacco stick to produce vapor rather than smoke. Curry, an ex-smoker, criticizes the taste of the product, though he notes its high prevalence among European users as an alternative to traditional vaping.

iqos· tobacco· vaping· nicotine· philip morris· product review

06:33 You can put that on a t-shirt. John C. Dvorak, Marxist revolutions aren't meant to be local and then the only other thing that I think is show worthy was a lot that i'd think of show worthy but you know since you're marginally entertained um...I tried uh...the IQOS remember this is the non combustible tobacco product that is supposed to replace vaping eventually in the United States well everybody is using them here Oh, that's interesting. And I said hey man can i have a hit off of that? I gotta taste this so it's like a big vape cartridge and then there is this small almost like half a cigarette in size and diameter that goes into the cartridge and little bit of filter sticks out and then it connects with battery

07:27 And it produces vapor, but it's not vapor from the vape liquid that is getting liquefied which is including the glycerin or whatever is in the vape. But it's actually heating up tobacco but not burning it just heating it so it doesn't produce smoke it produces a form of vapor It tastes like total crap! Is horrible Now, I'm a non-smoker now. I'm an ex-smoker but i know what it would uh what a smoke would taste like and it is nasty! It reminds me... You'd get people to stop smoking? Yeah, I don't think that's the point. It's like if you're not burning the tobacco you're just not getting the right..you're not doing your right. Just doesn't taste right at all so anyway we're here until um

08:17 I say, we're here tomorrow and then Saturday we fly off to Italy. And then I'll be... So did you see your friend? Of course! I've had some lunches with him and he's, you know, can't get around very well but yeah, now he's hanging in there. Are you going to go see Willow in Italy? Willow is going to come see us actually she's driving uh.. We're about an hour-and-a-half away from them so she's gonna come down with the whole family Yeah absolutely and this is where you say well that's nice That's nice Meanwhile... Meanwhile, there's a lot of stuff happening in the world. A lot of nutty stuff

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Donald Trump Indictments, Richard Nixon Watergate Comparison

The discussion critiques NPR's coverage of Donald Trump's legal challenges, specifically a segment featuring Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks. Wine-Banks argues that Trump's actions represent a greater threat to democracy than the crimes of Richard Nixon. The hosts dispute this narrative, referencing Russ Baker's book "Family of Secrets" to suggest that Watergate was a CIA-led operation to remove Nixon from office.

donald trump· richard nixon· watergate· jill wine-banks· npr· cia

08:57 You know, where do you want to go? And they indicted Trump again and this made a big fuss of the same thing. This has been fantastic! It's like a rerun of those same stuff only this time they really got him by the balls. Oh yeah! If you listen any of the MSNBC stuff as well his goose is cooked I love NPR they had this...I don't know who was this nut job I can't remember who this lady is, but the question was how does Trump compare to that other criminal in American presidential history Richard Nixon? The Watergate scandal led to President Richard Nixon's resignation in 1974. It set a standard for presidential wrongdoing but ex-president Donald Trump's alleged criminality now appears set too far exceed that standard

09:48 should the four indictments currently brought against him ultimately win out in court. Our colleague Stephen Skeaf spoke earlier about all this with Jill Weinbanks, she served as an assistant special prosecutor in the Watergate investigation. So this is someone who would know because she was so old that she was an assistant prosecutor in the Watergate investigation I want to ask a question that I think you have been asked 47 thousand times before but I think it's reasonable place to start How do the accusations against Trump and trying to overturn an election compare to Watergate? There's no comparison in my mind. The actions of Donald Trump leading up to January 6th, and continuing to this day, are much more dangerous democracy than anything Richard Nixon did. Richard Nixon was guilty he was a crook He should have been indicted. He shouldn't have been pardoned but

10:44 What he did is child's play compared to what happened. I believe his pardon enabled what happened, but I never feared for democracy the way I do now." Let's remember...what are these people afraid of? She—I've never feared for democracy the way I do now! This is quite interesting. They all say the same thing they all say it's part of this threat to democracy somehow. Oh wow. "...I never feared for democracy the way I do now Why is she afraid now? This guy's got 91 indictments against him from various sources. Why is she more afraid now than ever before? Was she more afraid now than she was before Trump was indicted? Probably because she knows it's an old bull crap. It's just an old battle axe that shouldn't even be on the air! ...was that Nixon did, uh... Aides and Associates of Nixon conducted a burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington

11:40 DC and the investigation of that led to a lot of other political so-called dirty tricks did Nixon At some level except wait it led to what other dirty tricks I don't know you were you were paying attention then not me Yeah, and I don't remember any other other dirty tricks once that Watergate thing broken It's everything this door was shut on dirty tricks. The dirty tricks took place before Watergate. I don't know I have no idea. They're just making this stuff up. Did Nixon... This is getting weaker by the minute, listening to these people. At some level except that democratic system he needed to listen to the will of the people and deal with reality? He did! The will of the people was voting in Donald Trump and he was told that he would be convicted in the Senate on the charges of impeachment that had been voted if he didn't resign And he resigned Is that how it went?!

12:38 Well, what happened was they had the goods on him because the whole thing was as you remember if you read the Baker book Russ Baker's book Family of Secrets where they outlined the fact that this whole thing was a CIA scheme to get rid of Nixon. And so the plumbers, the guys who did Watergate were all CIA operatives and these purposely did it in a slip shod way to get caught. That's what the book says And he has the research to back it up. So what they're saying is wrong. Thank you. The charges of impeachment that had been voted, if he didn't resign and he resigned... He never acknowledged officially and in fact probably denied in the David Frost interview that he was guilty because he said it's not illegal if you're the president

13:30 But he did respond to the will of the people. It was clear that he had lost support of America and his own party." This is weird that she says this, because you're right! The will of the people – at least Trump's people seems increasingly more towards bringing him back in instead of... Yeah by democratic election But what happened with Nixon is that they set this up so well, and of course the CIA at the time was really...even though after that was after the church committee I believe. But it was still dominating this situation and they had to get rid of him. And this is the way you would get rid of him. So they set him up and then they went to their Republican cohorts and the Republicans are the ones who got them to resign. Who were running the CIA? Do you remember?

14:21 Woolsey maybe? We'll have to check it out. It's almost over. We'l look at it, we'll look it up. I don't think... Maybe or may not have been Woolsey. America and of his own party this was a time of bipartisanship. It was a time of facts and everybody accepted the facts including him which was that he had been found to have plenty of evidence against him showing his guilt and he resigned so this is just propaganda basically NPR, National Propaganda Radio. I think that was a... Was that NPR? Yeah! No, that was NPR. That was our... Oh, I had some more NPR. That was NPR, yeah. What you got? Let's go Georgia updates... Georgia indictment update

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

Fulton County Georgia, Trump Arraignment and Trial Schedule

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has proposed a March 4, 2024, trial date for Donald Trump, notably scheduled one day before Super Tuesday. The segment details the distinction between booking and arraignment for the 19 defendants in the Georgia election interference case. Mark Meadows has filed to move his case to federal court, citing his status as a sitting official during the events in question.

fulton county· fani willis· georgia· super tuesday· mark meadows· rico

15:07 We next see former President Trump in court. Georgia Court... This is NTD so it's a little more objective. ...released this afternoon proposes an arraignment date and a trial date. NTD's Melina Wisecup is at the Fulton County Courthouse, and she joins us with more. Tell us about this new motion. So I do want to be very clear here because we did just get clarification from the Fulton County Sheriff's Office that arraignment and booking are actually totally separate, so there is still an August 25th that is a next Friday deadline for all 19 of these defendants who come here to be booked by the Fulton County Sheriff's Office, but now there is a newly proposed date for arraignment. That is the week of September 5th. The DA just filed that motion to the court today she also proposed on March 4th trial date if we could just show up on the screen here exactly what this document shows the motion that the DA filed if we could just pull it

16:02 So I'll read the reasoning for this requested arraignment date and trial date. They said they don't want it to conflict with other court hearings and trials that Trump has, stating the state of Georgia proposes certain deadlines that do not conflict with these other courts already scheduled hearings and trial dates. I do wanna point out the March 4th trial date because it is a very special day so it is Super Tuesday, a day before Super Tuesday actually- So that's the day that the greatest number of US states hold primary elections. So, that is a very interesting timing for this trial to unfold for former President Trump considering he is the leading candidate in the GOP primary race right now. Now just incase you missed it, quick update, first person who responded to these indictments was Mark Meadows. He filed for court case to be moved to federal court arguing

16:55 He does have protection because he was a sitting official at the time that these actions took place. Okay, let's just understand this I have looked at the Georgia indictments and i understand that they desperately want to get mug shots And they desperately want to do this the day before Super Tuesday. Is anyone fooled by this? Is anyone really thinking... Yes, the entire Democrat Party, your PBS people MSNBC and CNN they're all fooled by it. If anybody thinks are insincere I would challenge that That's incredible! It is really incredible

17:40 And truly true to the word, incredible. It's not credible! You're right it is incredible. The head of the CIA during Nixon was Helms who was the counterintelligence superstar that was a spook at the time. He would be the guy that set something like that up. I mean, all I hear is just people are traumatized. That's all the news seems to be except for you know luckily we have a devastation in Maui we can traumatize people with that. Let's go part two of this clip. So Malina on a separate but related note... Wait do you think that this is NTD right? Are the NTD people all-in or they buying it

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

Jack Smith, Twitter Search Warrant and $350,000 Fine

Special Counsel Jack Smith obtained a search warrant for Donald Trump’s Twitter account data, including a non-disclosure order that initially prevented Elon Musk from notifying Trump. Twitter was fined $350,000 for delaying compliance with the warrant while challenging the secrecy order on First Amendment grounds. The data sought reportedly included location information and engagement statistics related to Trump's tweets.

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18:33 No. There's emerging information about the DOJ 2020 election case against Trump special counsel Jack Smith got very personal information about Trump through issuing a warrant on X formerly known as Twitter. Tell us more about that. Oh yeah so Jack Smith, the special counsel from the DOJ who is leading that investigation and that case into President Trump's 2020 election case the if

19:30 that former President Trump. Now Twitter, knowing this was confidential information did try to block this warrant that Jack Smith was requesting but a judge ultimately sided with Jack Smith and furthermore the judge even ruled that Trump was not even allowed to know that this data on him was being collected and shared with special counsel Jack Smith Hold on a second hold I don't like the way they're reporting that because i have a report here from The Hill's Rising

20:20 Okay, but before you do that I don't think the public should put up with the fact that now he's got a list of everyone who's ever favorited or liked a Trump post. Oh Who could have said in there? Yeah No, I know well of course This is disgusting no this par for the course baby here listen to this actually This is a report ahead from for the last show didn't play it Twitter was subpoenaed by the Justice Department for Trump tweet info And they refused to comply and got a $350,000 fine. But I'm reading more closely and part of the... So what the Justice Department sought was we-I guess we don't know exactly because obviously the tweets are public but there could be information that Twitter has about under what circumstances they were sent maybe like what

21:08 location they were sent from, some other maybe statistics about their reach. Those kinds of things but they also in this the search warrant whereas it was There was going to be a non-disclosure force on them. So Twitter was also going, X Elon Musk, who's going to be prohibited from saying that the Justice Department, from publicly saying that the Justice Department had pursued this information and Twitter said we will We are willing to produce the information, but this violates our First Amendment rights to say we can't say that we're doing this. Did they actually produce the information? I thought that they had not. So they said they will not produce the information as long as you took away that stipulation and we will produce the information. Well, they've already violated that stipulation by talking about the government requesting the documents.

22:04 Or am I misunderstanding what the stipulation was? No, no. So this has come... This is now public because they've been fined for not complying with it but this was months ago when this demand was made so they exceeded the deadline to hand over the information because the Justice Department didn't agree just drop that stipulation Okay, so there's a slip shot report for one thing why are you getting fined You just can't just fine people out of the blue for not telling you something unless you had a warrant and the warrant would have made you do it. So this is terrible! You're saying that's not true, that they didn't get fined? I'm wondering whether they did nobody else has reported on this $350,000 fine. See so what's the fine for? For not complying with the judge's order But that's not the way they presented it

23:00 They got fined for not complying with the request. Here's, okay here's Time Magazine Musk's ex-fine $350,000 in secret Justice Department fight over Trump records For defying a judge's deadline to comply with the justice department search warrant Okay but that's different That's not the way these other guys reported Right But the whole thing is they're crazy This is... I agree And by the way, this kind of shows you that... Oh yeah. Way to go Musk! Yeah he's good The whole X and I'm just gonna take credit for it Twitter is ruined Twitter is completely ruined as predicted and now this Jacarino lady is in there

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

Linda Yaccarino, X Cash Flow and Content Moderation

X CEO Linda Yaccarino tells CNBC that the company is nearing cash flow break-even following significant cost-cutting measures implemented by Elon Musk. Yaccarino introduces the phrase "freedom of speech but not of reach" to describe the platform's approach to content moderation and shadow banning. The hosts criticize the corporate language used to justify limiting the visibility of certain posts.

linda yaccarino· x· elon musk· cnbc· shadow banning· freedom of speech

23:49 Who is, you know everything's good now by the way. They're cash flow positive Everything's hunky-dory as they get ready to become your bank Welcome back Linda Yaccarino newly appointed CEO of Musk's controversial Wait before we go on to this can we... I'll come back to Trump i just want to play this as an intro X sitting down with CNBC today and saying that the company is soon to be cash flow positive Woo! I've been at the company eight weeks the operational run rate right now we're pretty close to break even. Close to breaking even? We are pacing well when you think about the cost discipline that I've mentioned and i mean incredible cost is a cost discipline before I arrived at the company. What is she saying? She's saying that Glock... she's saying discipline Glock discipline they bring in there and poke people's heads

24:41 Cost discipline. Oh cost! Yes. X is starting to hire again after Elon Musk cut the number of employees from around 8,000 to over 1,000 now our Julia Borson joins us now to discuss... Julia I guess my question is I progress enable really a free speech platform but also create an environment that is very safe for brands and that's clearly been a big priority for her Steve. So it sounds like she's making progress in bringing more brands back on the platform, but it's mostly to me fascinating to see how this company will fit into a much broader company with payments with video calls and really going beyond just being I'm a platform for communication so

25:53 So the one thing Yaccarino is doing well, is she's creating new language. Although we've heard the lawful but awful and now suddenly CNBC... Was that Darren O'Neill's old phrase? No, no. We got this along... This was a government phrase. Like Trump his tweets are lawful but awful. But now she's throwing in freedom of speech but not of reach In other words you're gonna get shadow banned! You can post all you want and your in the bozo filter. It's like post all you want and nobody is going to see it Freedom of speech but not of reach

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Fani Willis, Georgia RICO Charges and Alternate Electors

District Attorney Fani Willis is utilizing Georgia's RICO statutes to prosecute Donald Trump and 18 associates for allegedly conspiring to overturn the 2020 election. The indictment includes charges related to the recruitment of alternate electors, which the media characterizes as "fake electors." Rudy Giuliani, who famously used RICO against the mafia, is among those charged in the sweeping criminal enterprise case.

fani willis· rico· georgia· rudy giuliani· electoral college· indictments

26:29 How do you start when you're asking a question, how do you start with the phrase I mean look? Well that's if your CNBC. They have a very high bar to entry for their journalists there is very... You got to be really good so yeah I mean look is a good way to start Let's go back to Trump. Here is the NBC report of the Georgia indictment. A sweeping set of charges announced in a late night news conference by Fulton County District Attorney, Fannie Willis Is it Fannie or Fannie? Because I think Fannie is funnier. I thought it was Fanny! The indictment brings felony charges against

27:08 Donald John Trump alleges Mr. Trump and 18 others unlawfully conspired in a criminal enterprise to try and overturn President Biden's narrow win in Georgia rather than abide by Georgia's legal process for election challenges, The defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise to overturn Georgia's presidential election result. Cameras tracked nearly every step as the indictment was brought to a judge and unsealed inside 13 charges for Mr Trump, including pressuring public officials to violate their oath conspiracy to commit forgery and making false statements

27:51 The indictment also alleges Trump allies recruited individuals to convene and cast fake electoral college votes to disrupt and delay the Biden win. This is this is the one that bothers me because instead of saying on alternate slate of electors which what was that's what it was, which is part of the process they just report it as fake, fake electors or am I incorrect? You're totally correct And that's NBC. Either they really don't know how our system works, and I think a lot of people don't know. People still probably think oh but I vote and my vote is what elects the president no it's the Electoral College. So they just...and you can see every election sends alternate slates of electors

28:49 I think it's always been that way, but now they're just calling it fake. They're just calling it fake! That's not okay." The DA is using the state's anti-racketeering law which is modeled on RICO statutes to charge all 19 defendants including Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani who helped pioneer the use of RICO laws to prosecute the mafia in New York The Trump campaign is blasting the indictment, calling it the latest coordinated strike by a biased prosecutor in an overwhelmingly Democrat jurisdiction. Something Willis strongly denies I make decisions in this office based on the facts and the law. The law's completely nonpartisan. There you go

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

NPR Political Analysis, Trump Primary Support and Third-Party Candidates

NPR correspondent Domenico Montanaro analyzes Donald Trump's continued dominance in the Republican primary despite multiple indictments. The segment highlights Democratic concerns regarding third-party candidates siphoning votes from Joe Biden. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp is cited as a Republican who successfully rebuffed Trump's election claims while maintaining electoral success in a swing state.

npr· domenico montanaro· gop primary· brian kemp· third-party· iowa caucuses

29:31 Well, I have a couple of clips from NPR that are... they're so bad. They call them hit pieces Okay and then we got to get off of this because now we're sounding like every podcast in the world Yeah but we still have to cover it Uh i have three clips left and that'll be it okay they're short well this one's not that short but this is the end and the reason is just to deconstruct the hit piece part of it which is the use of language That slanted And here we go with the npr hit piece on trump With each passing indictment of former President Donald Trump, up to four indictments now Republicans appear largely unfazed. So what explains that? And what does it mean for the next phase of the Republican presidential primary? NPR senior political correspondent and editor Domenico Montanaro is here to discuss Good morning Domenico! Good morning Lila Okay so we should get a cross verse that were talking about Trump's grip on the base of his party right he viewed far more negatively overall I love the grip on the base

30:31 party. the in 2016. So it's pretty hard to see his path to winning again in 2024 without some help potentially from a third party and that's why you know, you hear Democratic strategists and pollsters really ringing the alarm bells about these potential third-party efforts that have been cropping up recently especially because Trump and Biden are so unpopular right now

31:22 Now Trump is competing in the Republican primary and that's where he seen far more favorably. Yeah, I mean with Republicans it's a totally different story they're living in a completely different universe than Democrats and independents when it comes to Trump you know about half of Republican voters and said that they based those views on get this solid evidence of which there's none right you know it really just shows how hyper partisan our political environments become and the results of Trump and other Republicans relentless campaigns against expertise in definitive sources and once able to undermine those things, you can really make people believe almost anything. Wow! This is such a case of what you say about yourself You can make people believe almost anything That's exactly what you're doing in PR

32:26 Wow, that's pretty good. I really enjoyed this hit. Wow! Oh my goodness. They don't let up with part two now since the Georgia indictment came out on Monday are you seeing new efforts by Trump to reinforce the sense of grievance with his followers? Grievance?! Yeah definitely i mean it's been proven repeatedly in recounts audits dozens of court cases that there were no widespread fraud that would have changed any results and yet trump will be at it again monday in what he's calling a news conference from his golf course in New Jersey. He says he is going to present evidence of fraud that will vindicate him, but this really an old page from the Trump playbook. He has done this over and over again since he lost in 2020 and all the conspiracies he has put forward have been disproven

33:09 In fact, Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp swatted these claims aside yesterday. He said again that the state's elections are secure and fair and that no one has proved anything under oath in a court of law and that there was no substantive fraud. Kemp really is an interesting figure as a Republican who rebuffed Trump and then cruised to re-election in his swing state but not many other Republicans or any of Trump's current primary opponents, you know have really chosen or been able to follow that model. Right and that brings us to the first Republican presidential debate set for Wednesday next week First of all we don't even know if Trump will participate but either way his presence will be looming there

33:47 Oh, definitely. I mean we know that the other campaigns have had Trump at the center of their debate prep. You know some candidates who've been lagging want to make Trump answer for these indictments. I'm thinking of former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson and others but you know the thinking in Trump is why bother when he's so far ahead in the polls? If there was a time to make a move you might think it would start next week in a primetime debate We're gonna see because we're less than five months away from Iowa caucuses now All right, now just the last thing on the debates is my last clip and we can... I want to respond to this for a moment. What they're succeeding at here is making it so that no one cares about issues anymore. MAGA America is just mad at a two-tiered justice system

34:41 That's what they're achieving and I'm pretty sure that's on purpose. Let's get everyone all crazy, let's start some more January 6th type stuff so we can call everybody a terrorist and lock them up! This is very bad. We should... Yeah, you're talking about your threat to democracy? Yeah we should not even be playing these jokesters it's so bad Well I know Okay well we're gonna do it anyways We can't ignore it Let's go with Trump This is the Trump conundrum in Georgia Ooh okay The Trump Conundrum The Georgia prosecutor spearheading a racketeering and conspiracy case against former president Donald Trump This is great though! I love the Rico charts The whole thing is SO crazy

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

Georgia Racketeering Law, GOP Primary Debate Participation

The hosts discuss the specifics of Georgia's racketeering laws, noting that prosecutors only need to prove two predicate acts to establish a RICO charge. Meanwhile, Donald Trump indicates he may skip the first Republican primary debate in Milwaukee, hosted by Fox News. Trump has refused to sign the RNC loyalty pledge, which requires candidates to support the eventual nominee as a condition for appearing on stage.

rico· georgia· fox news· gop debate· rnc pledge· donald trump

35:22 That they even say, from what I understand and what I've read that none of these charges by themselves are crimes. When you put them all together that's racketeering? Well even more complicated is that if you...they have a litany of crimes like to say there's 40 or something. But not even crimes! They said these are not crimes. No but if you put two...and it's only 2 of em'. All you have to prove is that any two of them put together is a racketeering charge. That's the special Georgia law they have? Yeah, I think it's... well, I think that's all racketeering laws. You only had to prove two of these slaughterers. So which ones are they going to try and improve?

36:07 Well, I think one was he was picking his nose in public. Okay. That is pretty offensive. The Georgia prosecutor spearheading a racketeering and conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump and 18 of his associates is proposing the defendants be arraigned the week of September 5th. Fulton County District Attorney, Fawni Willis has also officially requested that a judge set the trial date for March 4 2024 That's just eight days before the state holds a Republican presidential primary Indictments in Georgia and Washington, D.C., are related to Trump's alleged attempt to subvert the will of the people and overturned the results of the 2020 election. Trump also faces charges involving his handling of classified documents, hush money payments, and was found liable on civil charges of sexual assault. Trump has disputed all of the accusations as politically motivated

37:00 Trump was indicted yet again this week. It has not made a difference with many or most Republican voters to this point it seems, but NPR's America Montaner reports Republican candidates are grappling with how to handle Trump at their first debate next week whether he shows up or not. Trump is refusing to sign a pledge to support whomever the Republican nominee is after the GOP primaries And that's one of the requirements of getting on the debate stage for the Republican Party's first debate next week in Milwaukee. That throws into limbo whether or not the party's frontrunner for the nomination will even be there So what is the word on the street? Is Trump going to the debates? Well he is not, good, No He is not going to sign that document Why should he? The pledge? Yeah, the pledge Good pledge! Screw those pledges you are supposed to sign Who is airing the debate

37:49 A fox. Yeah, I predict a ratings bonanza! Watch Trump do some alternative thing somewhere... Do his speech counter-programming. Well i think there may be some ratings bonanza if—I'm gonna play one more clip this is the Vivek clip have you seen this? I don't know which one it is I've seen some of them. Viveks watch it watch a Swamy what's the guy you know running for president he's all over the news. Ramashwami Rama Rama Brahma Swami guy you don't like that. You don't like this guy I don't like this guy because I think he's a phony, but let's go with this Vivek Here's where he does his rap Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy was wrapping up an onstage interview at the Iowa State Fair last weekend when he got his one-shot one opportunity But the words won't come out

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Vivek Ramaswamy, Eminem Rap and Viral Campaign Strategy

Republican candidate Vivek Ramaswamy gained significant social media attention after performing Eminem's "Lose Yourself" at the Iowa State Fair. Former Andrew Yang campaign manager Zach Graumann comments on the necessity of viral moments for long-shot candidates. The hosts compare the performance to the "Dean Scream," questioning if such stunts translate into actual votes.

vivek ramaswamy· eminem· iowa state fair· andrew yang· viral marketing· gop primary

38:43 Ramoswamy performed Eminem's classic song, Lose Yourself. Video of his performance was not lost but was watched around 8 million times on X formerly known as Twitter for a long shot candidate like Ramoswami that was was essential. You're not just competing with your other candidates, you're competing with everything." That's Zach Grautman he was the campaign manager for Andrew Yang's 2020 presidential run a run that was powered by viral moments Well, he spent weeks planning one of his early trips to South Carolina and he had a bunch of big crowds and was doing really well. That got essentially no coverage what got coverage was him jazzercising and ended up doing the Hupid shuffle with a number of older ladies But he says for those moments to actually work they have to be authentic When politicians try to be cool or try to do something that's inauthentic to them but

39:38 is popular online, it usually bombs. Which can be online big in the wrong way so Grauman gave his candidates some timeless advice Be yourself and have some fun out there and then what you do as a staff is you build around that and have the cameras going at all times and you lean into it. Although you should put a lot of planning into that improvised moment if the candidate's message is one thing and the candidate as a human is another thing, you can be in trouble right like even if it's authentic viral moment there's also no guarantee Grumman says that those moments will translate into votes there's a big difference between doing well on twitter

40:13 and getting people to actually show up with a ballot. Vivek Ramaswamy continues to be a long shot candidate, but sometimes losing yourself is a good way to be the center of conversation. The Dean scream. Exactly the same. Newt Gingrich actually had a pretty good take on what's going on right now and Fox News allowed him to say it. I think we are drifting towards the greatest constitutional crisis since the 1850s and the rise of secession and the Civil War. I don't mean that as hyperbole, if you read Andy McCarthy's remarkable book Ball Of Collusion which came out in 2019 he makes very clear

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Newt Gingrich, Constitutional Crisis and Obama-Biden Corruption Claims

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich warns on Fox News that the United States is facing its greatest constitutional crisis since the 1850s. Gingrich alleges that Barack Obama corrupted the Justice Department and that the current legal actions against Donald Trump are a "last-ditch effort" by a corrupt political machine. He cites Andy McCarthy’s book "Ball of Collusion" to support his claims of systemic Democratic lawbreaking.

newt gingrich· barack obama· hillary clinton· joe biden· fox news· constitutional crisis

41:10 that it is Barack Obama who corrupts the Justice Department. It is Hillary Clinton who routinely breaks the law and gets away with it, and now we have Joe Biden who's learned he's learned from Obama that doesn't matter what you do if you're a liberal Democrat you will not be prosecuted He learned from Hillary that a person in high public office can get millions and millions of dollars And they learned from watching Donald Trump that a true outsider willing to take on the entire system could destroy their entire machine. So what you're seeing across the country is a desperate last-ditch effort by a corrupt machine to destroy their most dangerous opponent in a way which not only breaks the Constitution, destroys the rule of law

42:05 and establishes a moment of bitterness which I think will last for a generation or more. This is going to be a horrendous period, and we just need to understand the people who want to control America and dictate to the rest of us will break any law lie about any topic and manipulate the system anyway they can that includes a lot of elite news media Yeah, I think that's right. I'm not-I'm no Newt Gingrich fan but he nails it on with short breath by the way What are they doing to the newt? It's not doing too well. Adenoids... I have no idea yeah He's right! I think thats-that nails it

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

COVID-19 Resurgence, Wastewater Monitoring and Masking Recommendations

CBS News reports a 12% increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations, citing wastewater data as an early warning indicator. Dr. Selene Gounder recommends masking in crowded indoor spaces as the "Eris" variant spreads, particularly in the Midwest. The hosts express skepticism toward the renewed focus on the virus, suggesting it is a precursor to the reintroduction of mail-in ballots for the 2024 election.

covid-19· cdc· wastewater· cbs news· selene gounder· pfizer

42:48 So meanwhile, while all of this is going on they're sneaking in. They're sneaking in we got to get everybody ready We've got to have I think we need mail-in ballots again that would be really good so let's start sneaking it back and here we go Here we go CBS! The US has seen an increase in COVID cases nobody wants to hear that Hospitalization rates are up more than 12% in the most recent week surveyed by the CDC And in a sign of what could be ahead, COVID has been found in a rising number of wastewater samples. The virus is usually detected in wastewater up to a week before people start actually testing positive. CBS News medical contributor that's Dr. Selene Gounders with us she's editor-at-large for public health at KFF good morning to you dr. Selene. You know people are going enough already we are so ready to move on it's been a long time since I've even really even thought about COVID but

43:42 Why are the cases going up and where? What do you mean, we heard you just three days ago talking about it Gail. Well it's a combination of people letting down their guard I think a lot of people think oh we were in this bunker during the pandemic it's gonna go away when I come out and unfortunately it is still there so just because you think you're done with COVID doesn't mean that virus is not still circulating. Letting our guard down how well Well we're not masking as much for example in public transportation. So on the plane, subway... I'm not masking anymore should we? Should we?! Well if you're in a crowded indoor public space you might want to in certain situations particularly as we go into the fall winter season and where were seeing it go up the most right now is in the Midwest

44:25 Yes, of course you know the red states. You know they're all gonna die from Kovac John do masks work against Kovac I forgot to be I'm pretty sure we looked at this oh No wait what are you doing? Are you walking the dog? Come back come back to the microphone. I've got more if dr.. Celine now these hospitalizations are increasing How severe are these cases? They are on average not more severe right now. If you look at sort of ICU admissions, they're pretty stable but where we have seen an increase in ICU hospitalizations it's really in parts of the country where we have long-standing health disparities. The people who are ending up in the hospital or in the ER there two particular age groups you have infants zero to one who we know are very under vaccinated less than five

45:19 75% of those are under vaccinated. And then people over 75, even if you have previously been vaccinated that group really is at higher risk and needs to be boosted. All right we need to boosting all right let's talk about the booster mask. Well hold on we gotta let's talk about the come on Gail give me the booster talk there's also a new variant ARIS what can you tell us about that and then do we have a booster that will help protect us against it? So, ARIS is a new variant. I don't think anybody should be getting really too worried about ARIS and in general just because you hear about a new variant doesn't mean this is something to panic about

45:55 Okay. That's good to hear, oh John we don't have to panic about it just because we have a name! And this is what viruses do they mutate you're gonna have new variants emerge related to XBB which is the variant the most recent variant the vaccines that are coming out this fall are fine-tuned for... John stop okay stop and you have to stop doing too many sound effects You're out of control.

46:49 them ahead of the fall and you've been saying that since the beginning and that message has not changed. Thank you! Oh yes, thank you well I wasn't really convinced by CBS yeah it's like a CBS okay they've got to I'm sure Pfizer is Pfizer is advertising so let's say tell your kids you gotta get a booster you gotta get this if your old you kill the babies but on CNBC they're all back in again here's our boy Former FDA Commissioner, now on the board of Pfizer and other fine bio... biocompanies. Dr Scott Gottlieb! Why do they keep putting this guy on? Because he is, because they pay to have him put on. Oh okay never mind.

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Scott Gottlieb, Eris Variant and BioBot Analytics

Former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb discusses the "Eris" (EG.5) variant on CNBC, noting its ability to escape prior immunity while remaining less pathogenic than previous strains. Gottlieb emphasizes the importance of wastewater data from BioBot Analytics due to the unreliability of home testing and state reporting. The hosts criticize Gottlieb's ties to Pfizer and the potential for wastewater surveillance to be used for social control.

scott gottlieb· pfizer· eris variant· biobot analytics· wastewater· cnbc

47:48 What's going on doctor? We keep hearing we actually have had a bunch of guests cancelled recently because they got COVID. What is happening here? Bullshit! That was in the script You know, we've had some guests cancelled because they got COVID Come on. Look, there's definitely a summer wave happening right now It's mostly this single variant is eris variants eg5 it has a new mutation in it that gives us some immune escape over the prior omicron variants Other countries have experienced waves of infections with this same variant and it hasn't caused increased hospitalizations or morbidity I mean we have seen an uptick in hospitalizations particularly among those 70 and overs those who are immunocompromised or older individuals

48:29 But nothing significant. And if you look at the overall hospitalization rate right now in the U.S., it's significantly below where it was last time, last year when we had a significant Omicron surge late in the summer. So while this is concerning seeing cases go up there are certainly people who are vulnerable to this infection continue to be vulnerable. There's nothing to suggest that this particular strain that circulating United States right now is more pathogenic than prior variants and so people who were vaccinated with prior variants who've had the infection before should have some residual immunity against this. The thing we're looking at right now is the wastewater data from a company called BioBots, you can actually find it online because the hospitalization data isn't reliable neither is the data on testing but it's not getting reported by a lot of states and most people who are testing or testing at home so we were looking at the wastewater data and the parts of the country where the infections are going up the most right now in the Midwest and parts of the South that's what we're seeing the surges of infection. Do you see

49:24 The messaging, the messaging is and exactly what we discussed in the past three years. Wastewater they're going to tell you where the dummies are thank you the idiots who aren't vaccinated or whatever under-vaccinated it's all gonna be red states and it's all based on the wastewater And he says well you can look it up You can look it up on BioBot You could look it up online Well guess what? We did Hi, my name is Nusha Ghaly and I'm the co-founder and president of BioBot Analytics. At Biobot, we're building a global human health database. The first of its kind by analyzing sewage. That sounds great! This is based on a simple system called wastewater epidemiology Everybody pees every day and we know that urine contains a rich source of information on our health and well-being Our doctors look at it all the time And everyday were flushing this data down the toilet where it's aggregating in public sewers

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

BioBot Analytics, Wastewater Surveillance and Opioid Monitoring

BioBot Analytics co-founder Newsha Ghaeli describes the company's technology for analyzing sewage to create a global human health database. Originally focused on the opioid epidemic, the system can geolocate drug use and infectious diseases down to specific neighborhoods or buildings. The hosts compare the company's pitch to the Theranos scandal and raise significant privacy concerns regarding the tracking of pharmaceutical and illicit drug consumption.

biobot analytics· wastewater· opioids· mit· surveillance· privacy

50:26 At BioBot, we're building technology to extract and analyze this information. And it's a much more elegant process than this. Our work is based on research that was developed here at MIT and led by my co-founder Mariana Matus and I. And this is how it works. First of all, this sounds like an Elizabeth Holmes scam. No no just she's got Indian co founder. You know? Oh I'm here at MIT oh yeah! We...and then I think this should be illegal She has no right to build a database off of everybody's pee, the global health database which she is now going to use to geolocate. It will be geolocating all... it won't just be COVID who is using coke? Who is using weed? What apartment building is there more weed? Who is using opioids?

51:16 Let's find out how it works. We start by mapping the wastewater network in a city, this is Cambridge Massachusetts we layer land use data and census data over top of the network map in order to understand if we're collecting a sample from a given manhole exactly what the upstream catchment is and what the demographics of that neighborhood are Don't be looking at my manhole! We then deploy our hardware units in these manholes where they hang just above water level pumping sewage through a series of cartridges The devices are then removed and the cartridges are shipped back to our labs where we measure the concentration of viruses, bacteria and small molecules that are all excreted in urine. Now the applications are endless We can begin to look at infectious disease outbreaks and monitor that all the way through to understanding the consumption of pharmaceutical products So in order to start we had to pick a very specific and targeted application And we decided to focus on the biggest public health emergency in the United States today

52:13 The opioid epidemic. And there we go! Isn't that interesting? While this crisis continues, the best data that we have today is counting overdoses This data is extremely delayed reactive and it represents less than 1% of people who suffer from opioid use disorder We provide cities with neighborhood level data Hold on a second I hadn't heard that before Opioid overuse disorder It's called addiction. This data is extremely... Hold on a second, stop! We gotta stop So they're going to isolate All you have to do is walk down the street I know You don't need to be in the manhole You don't have to be in the manhole To tell them who's using it They're doing it out in the open Yeah but I think she's talking about people In buildings And they are doing it in manholes Which means that you can Geolocate down into the building

53:11 and the next step is going to be in the building, and then it's going to be on each floor. This is a very dangerous development." Well I'm gonna stop with if you're thinking...I'm actually gonna back you off at your original point this sounds a lot like an Elizabeth Holmes deal There's something finky about this. I'd like to talk to some people about how granular you can really get because the amount of sample they're taking is again, like Elizabeth Holmes seems the little low. They drop a sample thingy, a little package down at manhole up just above the sewage and they grab us a test tube full. I mean, I'm not...I am very skeptical about this working.

54:01 On equal footing with you on that, the reason why it's interesting is that Gottlieb is all in on it. Gottlieb is a dangerous guy! He's dangerous. He should have been taken off the air years ago While this crisis continues, the best data that we have today is counting overdoses This data is extremely delayed reactive and it represents less than 1% of people who suffer from opioid use disorder Opioid use disorder We provide cities with neighborhood level data on drug use and treatment That's updated every single month What's the treatment I wonder? What data do they deliver on treatment

54:40 He's like, hey send some crack pipes here. Hey we need more syringes! We measure about 30 different drugs that range from heroin illicit opioids like heroin and fentanyl to prescription opioids like codeine and tramadol as well as substitution therapies like methadone and suboxone This overall city view helps city officials understand where to deploy interventions. We can tell them what priority drugs are so that they know what types of interventions to put, to deploy and our trend data helps them evaluate whether those interventions are actually working." I'm telling you this should not be legal and where do you think they're starting this? What state would be a good one to start?

55:23 Florida. No, that would be really good Our first customer in North Carolina was able to decrease overdoses by 40% by leveraging our data in only six months How? Oh we got some opioid use disorder people here We got data and they can... I don't see it! This is this is I'm convinced your initial thoughts on this are the accurate ones This is bullcrap How? If you dump like a cup of bleach in your toilet, because let's say you're cleaning your toilet or using the liquid plumber which is introducing a bunch of sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide into the system. Or chlorine can be dumped in with some bleach this contaminates... This reacts with anything that they're trying to do especially if they've only taken these little samples

56:20 This is... this is not... this is bull! It may be, but they're going to be using it. So yes? I'm with you on that? But if she's got Gottlieb in on this, that's a problem. Let me finish this one. Well, Gottlieb may be just naively thinking that they've got something. Because I don't know he's read in on any of this He is anything but naive We told them that prescription opioids were what was most commonly used and therefore they focused all their resources and interventions on that In just a little over a year we have grown from being deployed in that one city to now being launched across eight with 100% retention

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Wastewater Testing Contradictions, Mail-in Ballot Speculation

Scott Gottlieb provides conflicting statements on whether wastewater data is a forward-looking or backward-looking indicator for COVID-19 spikes. The hosts argue that the promotion of wastewater testing is a strategy to justify localized lockdowns and the widespread use of mail-in ballots in "red states." They suggest that surveillance of "pee water" will be used to restrict movement based on infection levels in specific residential quadrants.

wastewater· scott gottlieb· cdc· mail-in ballots· surveillance· covid-19

56:58 And with that, we're one step closer to achieving our mission which is to transform wastewater infrastructure around the world into a public health observatory. This sounds creepy! Let's go back to Gottlieb Scott, We don't have free testing anymore. We don't have those free test kits you get in the mail and so I'm wondering if you think that is this surge much greater than then we know? How do you think this plays into You know, when we go into the colder months and COVID might become more rampant. If we don't have those free tests are we more apt to spread this? More free tests! No no tests! Nuh-uh We're just gonna do wastewater testing

57:37 Bill, this is if you look at the wastewater data. This infection right now this new variant is very prevalent last week was about 20% of all infections in the US rising rapidly I would suspect that when we see the data out of CDC this Friday it's going to be about 50 percent of all infections that are happening in the country and that's always backward looking so there's probably more than that So this is quite prevalent right now around the country particularly in the Midwest parts of the Midwest right now In terms of the testing it's gonna be more difficult contradiction there okay He said that the wastewater testing was forward-looking because the wastewaters, these things will show up before people even have symptoms. But now he's saying it's backward looking. Can you make up his mind? Let's listen again. Remember him saying it was forward looking. He says that wastewater will show this, these spikes and before people even know they got to disease. Did you say that in previous... Now we're seeing the opposite. You say that in the first clip? Yeah! Well let's go back and listen for a second.

58:35 The new strain of COVID making its way around the country to cancel recently because they got COVID. This same variant and it hasn't caused increased hospitalizations or morbidity, I mean we have seen an upwards those who are immunocompromised or older individuals year when we had a significant Omicron surge late in the summer. There's nothing to suggest that this particular strain that circulating in United States right now is more pathogenic than the prior variants so people who were vaccinated with prior variants who've had the infection before should have some residual immunity against this. The thing we're looking at right now is the wastewater data from a company called BioBot, so you can actually find it online because the hospitalization data isn't reliable neither is the data on testing that's not getting reported by a lot of states and most people who are testing and testing at home So we were looking at the wastewater data And parts of the country where infections are going up the most right now in the Midwest and parts of the South That's where we're seeing the surges of infection You didn't say anything about forward-looking there I'm not sure

59:33 Keep playing. That was the end of the first clip, I'm going now to the second clip and maybe he says it here. Scott we don't have free testing anymore We don't have those free test kits that you get in the mail so i'm wondering if you think is a surge much greater than than we know? And how do you think this plays into You know, when we go into the colder months and COVID might become more rampant. If we don't have those free tests are we more apt to sort of spread this? Listen to her leading the witness! This is so obvious what's going on here. Bill if you look at the wastewater data this infection right now...this new variant is very prevalent Last week was about 20% of all infections in the U.S rising rapidly I would suspect that when we see the data out CDC this Friday it's gonna be about 50 percent of all infections that are happening in the country and that's always back

1:00:18 looking. So it's probably more than that so this is quite prevalent right now around the country particularly in the Midwest parts of the Midwest right now in terms of the testing yeah, it's going to be more difficult to get access to the testing this winter there's no question about that this variant is probably gonna come and go this fall we're probably gonna see a new variant emerge by the time we get into late fall and winter. So this particular strain isn't that worrisome in terms of its pathogenicity relative to what we've seen before, We don't know what's going to come next but this is gonna run it course probably by the end of September into October This particular variant I think will have moved around the country. The plan is wastewater testing and man we saw this coming John, we were laughing about it but we saw it coming. Wastewater testing... They started with the polio? Yes

1:01:05 And now they're doing it with drugs and they didn't mention anything about their COVID. Remember how great these COVID tests were? We're not going to give away these free tests because they work so well! Anyway, we're not gonna do that... I've got a dozen of them You don't need any of those free tests. We're just gonna spend all the money on this Elizabeth Holmes character and we're going to lock down portions of cities because you have high COVID levels in your pee. I'm telling you this is the way they're going and Gottlieb is all-in on it Yeah, well I think you're also dropping the ball on another one of your early assertions which is this will lead to mail-in ballots. Yes! Of course Because the wastewater shows that everyone's sick. Hey are you from this quadrant? And it's all in red states

1:01:59 Yeah, yeah. You are in quadrant five you may not go to vote you will have your mail-in ballots dropped off in front of your building that's what's gonna happen Yeah, it's so... I don't know. What is that new device? What is this you're using? I don't know! It's just something that- Don't have my megaphone with me This is better than the megaphone Really?! You like this one? Okay The drone will be dropping off your mail in ballots In front of your quadrant building Do not worry do not be alarmed Stay indoors stay indoors The megaphone has its place But this is different This is creepier

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COVID-19 Treatments, Paxlovid and "Balcony Nazis"

The discussion shifts to COVID-19 therapeutics, with the hosts noting that monoclonal antibodies are no longer available, leaving Pfizer's Paxlovid as the primary recommended treatment. They contrast this with alternative treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Adam Curry introduces the term "Balconazis" (Balcony Nazis), a phrase used in Spain to describe citizens who shouted at others to stay off the streets during pandemic lockdowns.

paxlovid· pfizer· ivermectin· monoclonal antibodies· joe rogan· spain

1:02:40 By the way, let's just see. Besides vaccine... What really worked? Ivermectin works for people, hydroxychloroquine although i never tried that seemed to work for people and monoclonal antibodies that is what I think Joe Rogan would say was really what got him over his COVID in just a couple of days Yeah, but no. And is Pax Lovid which is really the only... I mean people are not doing using any of the other types of... Oh listen CNBC! People really only using Pax Lovid? I mean Pax Lovid's the only way to go right Scott?! and is Pax Lovid which is really the only.. I mean let me read my script. Pax Lovids I mean there's nothing else right? Not doing or using any of the other types of medications anymore This is that nerd from The New York Times isn't that this guy

1:03:33 Sanger? No, no no. The one who wrote the... Oh yeah, he got kicked out because of so many conflicts of interest. Uh.. No! This is the Wunderkind! What's his name? Yeah I think so. He didn't get kicked off anything they love him. I don't think he writes for the Times anymore. Oh that's possible Is that the only real sort of firewall, especially for older people? Firewall! Ooh it's a firewall. It's the only drug that is widely available right now. Merck has a drug as well that is on the market and used less by physicians I'm on board with Pfizer which markets Paxilivir The monoclonal antibodies aren't available anymore The companies haven't continued to make new versions of those monoclonal antibodies To target existing variants

1:04:22 Pfizer as well as other companies have second generation antivirals in development so I think we'll see continued innovation in this space but right now Paxlovid is a highly effective drug properly used for patients who are properly indicated for it. Anyway, NBC didn't really get the... they didn't get any money. NBC didn't get any money. CBS got the money CNBC got the money but NBC today show no money. Do you think we'll soon be at a point where the medical community decides okay we're gonna stop calling this a booster? We're gonna say this is a COVID shot like the flu shot and it will maybe be a seasonal thing is there any indication of

1:05:10 of COVID being seasonal? I mean, why haven't we transitioned from booster which seems to imply one uptick and you're done. Why haven't we transitioned from that language to more like flu shot type language? You know Allison, I think the short answer is this virus continues to humble those who try to make predictions. We all want this to be a seasonal thing just like the flu go away in the summer come back in the winter you get your shot good to go but as we've seen with this uptake and we've seen in previous summers it's really it just humbles us who tried play crystal ball and predict things So really, I do think we're going to get to that point. I don't think we're there yet especially if you are high risk We are recommending more frequent vaccines and I think a lot of people wondering Do I need to bring the mask back? And I think the question is, ask yourself is If your high-risk

1:05:54 Look at it just like you do the weather. If it's raining, you grab an umbrella. Look at the COVID cases and give it like an umbrella think of a mask like an umbrella if there are a lot of cases out there grabbing and then if I have a KN95, they still work. Yeah that way you can identify your fellow Democrats during the mail-in ballot period is so obvious to me It's like they're setting everything up. We have drones flying around dropping off N and K-95s, but you know you can't... no, no, no, no, no, no, no! You can't go out staying there this building is no good in this city in these red states. And you know what? Everyone will fall for it. He will go right down that same path. It'll be exactly the same. Yeah we're gonna have Joe Biden as president again

1:06:48 They have a term for it here. I was talking to, uh, couple of people that were not really big on the lot of it just like Texas here as I said and they, the term they have is Belcon Nazis Belco Nazis was people who would if you were walking on the street, there'd be on their balcony yelling at you to get off the street. Belka Nazis. So think it's kind of good. Belkan Nazis. It's like a belkin balcony, a balcony Nazi. Yeah. Yeah. The balcony. Yeah, the balconazis. Get off the street! Get off the street yo! Yeah I can see it. But maybe there's a solution when all of the residents, when all the legal residents are locked in their homes because you know

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New York Migrant Crisis, Kathy Hochul vs. Eric Adams

New York Governor Kathy Hochul and Mayor Eric Adams are in a public dispute over the management of the migrant crisis, which has seen over 100,000 arrivals in the city. Hochul criticized the city's lack of coordination in a 12-page letter, while Adams requested the state cover two-thirds of the $12 billion estimated cost. The Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan has been converted into a migrant housing facility as the city struggles with "right to shelter" mandates.

eric adams· kathy hochul· new york city· migrants· roosevelt hotel· asylum seekers

1:07:39 of the pee water, the waste water shows that you're all infected. You're all seething with infection. You can't come out. We can keep everything working, they've already figured that out too and I mean it's a grand conspiracy theory but i think they got it set especially in New York Tonight a new battle is brewing over how New York City handling the record-breaking influx of migrants Mayor Eric Adams pushing back after the state's governor Kathy Hochul fellow Democrat accused him not doing enough If her observation is that here's some things you can do differently, we're all in. One thing no one is stating that we didn't do... We've housed 100 thousand people

1:08:22 Unlike any of the city. It comes after a lawyer for the governor today sent us scathing letter saying the city faces a serious crisis and has failed to accept The state's offer of assistance and should do more to act in a proactive manner The mayor opening two new shelters, and he's repeatedly slammed the federal government for not doing enough to help the city Today we spoke with Carla from Ecuador, with her four-year old daughter outside the iconic Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan which has been turned into a migrant housing facility. Give us an opportunity, she says. Many of us just want to work. Across the country other major cities are also struggling with the influx and Massachusetts governor just declared a state of emergency It's unsustainable In New York since last year more than 100 thousand asylum seekers have arrived More than 58 thousand are now in shelters And officials estimate housing and caring for migrants will cost city taxpayers

1:09:18 $12 billion by 2025. However, Mayor Adams argues a major step to solve this crisis would be allowing migrants to get work permits. There you go there you go that's interesting that I have the very similar report but i don't think it's from the same source I think this may be NDD This is New York State versus New York City one New York Governor Kathy Hochul says the illegal immigrant crisis in Manhattan is the city's own fault. In response to Mayor Adams' request for more help, NTD's Arlene Richards reports. In a 12-page letter Tuesday, New York Governor Kathy Hochul blamed Mayor Eric Adams lack of coordination for New York City's illegal immigrant crisis The letter responds to the city's requests last week for help in managing the crisis

1:10:13 The state can support us by taking reasonable actions to ease the burden of our city. We need a statewide decompression strategy to help free up space in our shelter system and reduce the pressure on our city's resources. The state recently announced humanitarian relief centers that they will reimburse us for, but we need more. Decompression strategy? That's interesting. Yeah, crazy. Hmm... This is part two. Adams letter laid out numerous requests, including asking the state to cover two thirds of the cost of shelter in the absence of meaningful federal funding and asking for a statewide relocation program to resettle groups of new arrivals throughout the states counties. The governor's reply criticizes the city for failing to accept numerous state offers of assistance over the last year

1:11:28 For example, she says the state offered more than a dozen state-owned sites that could provide temporary shelter to more than 3,000 migrants. But the city did not accept the offer, the letter states. Mayor Adams office had no immediate comment on the state's letter. But Huckle herself has been criticized by the mayor and community organizations for not taking a more proactive approach to ease the city's burdens without help from the state and federal governments, Adams fears the worst if we don't get the support we need New Yorkers could be left for 12 billion dollar bill. Arlene Richards, NTD News. Did you hear that in there? That there's a state law that says if you go to New York and demand a bed they have to give you one? I didn't know that

1:12:19 Well, that's the tourist should take advantage of this. Yeah and you get to stay in the Roosevelt Hotel where tourists used to stay which is a real real crap hole! The Roosevelt Hotel oh man that is the worst and do you imagine that filled with families who are just in distress? I'm telling you, it is such a perfect setup because not only while most New Yorkers are at home because the wastewater says so awaiting their N95 masks to wear while screaming out over there'll be Balkan Nazis. Then the illegal immigrants asylum seekers they will be working to keep the city going and when you work... Come on! It's only fair they get to vote

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

San Francisco Decline, Federal Building Telework Order

The Department of Health and Human Services has advised hundreds of federal workers at the Nancy Pelosi Federal Building in San Francisco to work from home due to dangerous conditions and open-air drug use. A BBC report describes the Soma district as overrun with drug paraphernalia and unconscious individuals. The hosts criticize the reporting for suggesting that tent encampments are "unusual" when they are a persistent feature of the city.

san francisco· nancy pelosi federal building· dhhs· homelessness· fentanyl· bbc

1:13:12 This is so obvious. Well, you know what's coming after that? Especially on the spur of the moment internet voting! Yeah well you've been talking about that forever... Internet voting yeah How is San Francisco doing have you been into the city recently Well, let's play a couple of clips. Can I start you off with something from the BBC just to make sure that we're on the up and up here? Sure! San Francisco that liberal enterprising city in the Union's wealthiest state is struggling more than most despite numerous attempts to crack down on drugs The city is already on course this year to beat its drug death record from 2020 when 712 people died

1:13:58 The violence, crime and homelessness that comes with the problem has made parts of downtown San Francisco so treacherous that now hundreds of federal workers at the Department for Health and Human Services have been advised by their bosses to work from home rather than risk the commute into the building. A memo said quote in light of the conditions at the Federal Building we recommend employees maximize the use of telework for the foreseeable future Does that line up with what you're seeing? It's so dangerous. That building by the way which is called the Nancy Pelosi building. Oh, yeah. The Pelosi federal building I know where that building is it's not in the worst part of town that's for sure but there's still a lot of homeless around there and they're still much encampments and when you go if you have to go there... And I haven't been there for awhile but I went few years ago

1:14:46 I would always take a bring an extra couple of dollars and find some guy in town to guard my car. Oh, yeah makes sense. Yeah, they do it. Yeah really you can trust them Well, I don't know if you can trust all of them but the ones that run into you can. Okay well you have a slightly sense... It's not like i'm going there all the time. I think the way you could deal with it is say here's a couple dollars and here's four quarters put them in the meter if the meter starts running out May I play may I play a description from this BBC reporter about the area since you've now eloquently told us it's not even the worst?

1:15:27 It's not the worst place. on 7th and Mission, downtown in the Soma district where this federal building is. Where they've asked people not to come to the office and it's bad I mean a lot of the downtown area particularly this block and other areas like The Tenderloin it's just completely unremarkable now to see people crowds of people kind of using drugs very openly or

1:16:06 unconscious from the effects of drugs on the pavements and it's just quite unpleasant and it's really just very, very visible. And Tabby when you walk down that part of town what are you looking at? Are you looking at drug deals happening? Are there people on the floor I mean what can you actually see? You're not looking at anything! Her name is precious too. Tabby, hey Tabby what did you see? Did you see people on the floor? Yeah yeah it's I mean there's this morning there were rows of tents which actually is quite unusual for San Francisco because recently the government... No its not! What did she say? Unusual?!

1:16:44 Yeah. Unusual tabby, tabby! There's rows of tents everywhere. This doesn't make sense Tabby. Yes I mean there was this morning there were rows of tents which actually is quite unusual for San Francisco because recently the government-the local government has been very good at clearing out tent encampments kind of as quickly as possible but... Toby clearly walking a different part of town. Rows of tents, groups of people kind of clustered on the floor in various states of consciousness... No hold on stop! So what happened was she saw the rows of tents because they're everywhere

1:17:20 But she was under the impression. That's right, because of the news reports... that they cleared all these out and so she took it at face value to make the commentary that well this is unusual when its not unusual! She did a shit job of reporting is what we're dealing with here Hey its the BBC who do you think your talking about here? I have a feeling that Tabby You're right, Tabby probably hasn't been on foot through this area and quite honestly I'm not so sure she was on foot when she did this. I'm sure she was in an Uber drive-by. It is quite unusual for San Francisco because recently the government the local government has been very good at clearing out encampments as quickly as possible but rows of tents groups of people kind of clustered on the floor in various states of consciousness

1:18:10 drug paraphernalia, foil pipes kind of just very visible. It's everywhere and you know there is rubbish everywhere human excrement. The place doesn't smell very nice but I mean it's almost ironic that this federal building has asked some staff not to come to work because part of the reason the homelessness and the drug use is so bad in that part of town, is because there has been a big emptying out of workers since the pandemic. Lots of tech workers haven't come back. Companies have really embraced remote working. So you have this kind

1:18:47 of ironic, like self-fulfilling prophecy where the area is quiet. It becomes more overrun with drug users people don't want to go to it and it just kind of this cycle repeats itself. They should do that. Okay hold on a second. They shouldn't they shouldn't do that wastewater testing because that solved 40% of the problem! So you know let's get a couple things straight... The tech workers aren't in this part of town? No no This is where the San Francisco Chronicle is. This is where, you know there's a couple of malls there and some stores that are leaving Nordstrom's

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

San Francisco Crime, National Guard Deployment and Political Criticism

Congressman Kevin Kiley describes San Francisco as being in a state of "total collapse" due to rampant fentanyl use and retail theft. Despite the deployment of the National Guard and increased police presence, residents express frustration with progressive "harm reduction" policies. Mayor London Breed is criticized for vacationing in Maui during the city's ongoing crisis and the wildfires in Hawaii.

san francisco· kevin kiley· london breed· fentanyl· national guard· harm reduction

1:19:26 So this is poorly done to say the least, but let's play my San Francisco clips. Okay. And I have three of them including one about the driverless car fiasco that we've been talking about. Okay so we start with... These are NorCal SF, just kind of misspelled the word crime 1 A work from home notice for federal employees in San Francisco. They were told to work remotely for the foreseeable future due to drug use and rising crime around... By the way, this is not coordinated! I love this we both have clips about this work from home order

1:20:03 And I'm all the way in Europe. That's insane, that's great." ...on their office building. Congressman Kevin Kiley of California had this to say... Nowadays when you think about the city you're less likely to think about the Golden Gate Bridge and the trolley cars and The Wharf than you are to think about bashed-in windshields and open air drug markets and waste littered streets. The issue was first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle it involves an 18 story building that houses various federal agencies A video posted on social media platform X shows dozens of individuals simultaneously using fentanyl steps from the federal workplace. The video was posted by a longtime San Francisco resident Darren Stolcup, he says he's seen San Francisco go from being the cultural capital of the world to the technological capital of the world

1:20:51 the fentanyl capital of the world. The guidance for federal employees to teleconference adds to the growing office space vacancy in the city. Congressman Kiley also wrote on X, in recent months San Francisco's decline has reached a point of total collapse. The state announced the deployment of the National Guard to the area. The number police officers doubled in June. Hey congratulations! Foam finger number one There's no doubling of anything. You can't find a cop anywhere around there. It's the opioid capital of the world! Fentanyl, number one! And Mayor Breed instead of taking care of this, Mayor Breed our Democrat mayor she is in Hawaii

1:21:28 So, she vacationed? She was in Maui during the fires. I talked about that. That's right. So let's go a clip to San Francisco Personally i was born and raised in the san francisco bay area I've seen first hand pounds of fentanyl I'm sorry, I am having the troll room tell me that she said something funny at the end. She said colap instead of collapse or is that weird edit? Congressman Kiley also wrote on X, in recent months San Francisco's decline has reached a point of total collapse. the state announced. She said collapse, collapse she did good cat stroll room collapsed personally I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area i've seen firsthand pounds of fentanyl are distributed and used right there on the corner of 7th and Mission and you know I personally seen countless people overdose and it's a very pressing issue in San Francisco right now

1:22:28 When did you see a noticeable decline? This happened over a period of 10 to 20 years, you know. 2015 there was so much hope and aspirations for San Francisco the South and Market area was transforming faster than ever before somewhere between all this advancement in technology There was a decline in humanity and for many years the community has been voting progressively for liberal ideas. And personally, I believe that what's happening in our community is a direct result of electing corrupt Democrats who have placed profits above the families of our community and progressive policy is making everything progressively worse. Harm reduction is causing more harm." This is encouraging! The residents are saying hey it's our politicians they're finally waking up to this

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

California Political Shift, Retail Theft and Zero Bail Policy

John Dvorak attributes California's shift from a mixed political state to a Democratic stronghold to the Republican Party's historical focus on religious issues. The segment covers recent "smash and grab" robberies at a Nike store in East LA and a Nordstrom in Canoga Park. The hosts link the rise in brazen retail theft to Los Angeles County's reinstatement of a zero-bail policy.

california· ronald reagan· retail theft· nike· nordstrom· zero bail

1:23:26 Ugh, good luck. As I've said these elections are rigged. You know you're gonna be that last guy with this one house It's fine over here on this side of the bay. Believe me, it's all Chinese from China. Oh much better! So yeah because everything is best priced yes so let's ignore this and go to Southern California. Oh Los Angeles yes yes yes. SoCal two clips Can I ask you a question? Yeah Castillo asked me this. He said, when Ronald Reagan was president even when he was governor, was California really Republican? Was it a red state at the time or was it kind of mixed?

1:24:14 It was a mixed state and Republicans easily got in. We had two or three Republican governors, and then out of the blue this place became almost completely Democrat. Now can you point to how that change happened? Or what that was? Was everyone just fed up with things being great? No, I think it had to... Yes. I think it had to do with the Republican Party becoming highly religious and turning off the electorate. Ah! Okay. And so they... Oh that makes sense. The California Republican Party is about as useless as any party mechanism in all of the states

1:24:55 Okay, so then it but if you go to a meeting somewhere the independence or because boy they just complain about these guys like there's nothing They won't give anyone money. There just is a bunch of What's going on? What's going on in the background there says like some I have no idea So loud a lot of noise is something as some crazy noise okay alright I have no idea what it is. Let's play SoCal 1. NTD's Christina Corona has more from the two latest stores that were hit. On Sunday, a shopper recorded two suspects stealing from a Nike store in East LA on Whittier Boulevard The video posted on the Citizen app shows the suspects running in with trash bags and taking off with about $1,000 worth of shoes and other items No injuries were reported We asked local residents if this makes them afraid to shop And what to be aware of

1:25:55 In a way it does, you know because I have a kid so i'm always looking out for his safety. So yeah its just that they're going into our community in that way being that is low income community and their We're lucky to have a Nike store here. You never know what the person is going to have, a knife or gun they are not thinking straight it doesn't matter just be careful but people were gonna come in and try to find easy places like this now there's a lot of requirements for companies they tell you don't Don't follow them. Don't talk to them, don't see anything just leave him alone It's not worth it because the thing is that loss will be written off and it'll be a write-off for taxes They'd be right for insurance whatever it is they don't nobody loses yes Yes Everybody loses in the end my friend I figured I'm glad you caught that cuz that was there is I stopped that clip there Because horrible things say

1:26:52 It's a horrible, because everybody loses. You have to pay more in insurance and taxes go up for everybody else. This is bullcrap! Where do you get that idea? Well but that idea is pushed by the education system by the Democrats And once we got that law which is nine...up to $900, you know, you can go scot-free That really solidified it These smash and grabs are crazy. We reached out to the Nike store... You know, has Mimi's head fallen down onto the desk yet? She listening to this show

1:27:28 We reached out to the Nike store, but they declined to comment. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said this particular store is targeted weekly and on Saturday video posted on the citizen app captured 20-50 thieves swarming a Nordstrom at the Westfield Topanga shopping center in Canoga Park as they cleared out the store during a destructive robbery The video shows thieves wearing all black violently grabbing whatever merchandise the video.

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Yellow-Legged Hornet Discovery, Georgia Agriculture Alert

Agriculture officials in Georgia have confirmed the first U.S. sighting of the yellow-legged hornet near Savannah. This invasive species preys on honey bees and poses a significant threat to the honey industry. The hosts compare the pest to the "murder hornet" and mock potential media attempts to link the insect's arrival to climate change.

yellow-legged hornet· murder hornet· georgia· honey bees· agriculture· invasive species

1:28:13 50 Cent wrote on Instagram, I told you LA was finished. They are going to have to lock the doors appointment only SMH this comes just weeks after he commented about the reinstatement of the zero bail policy in Los Angeles County saying la is finished Yeah, the zero bail policy Oh goodness zero bail policy III figured then they wonder whether why this is going on? I figured out what that sound is behind you What is it? Well a dangerous alien hornet has invaded the US for the first time ever. The yellow legged hornet you see there is a relative of what we know as the murder hornet an alert beekeeper spotted one on his property near Savannah Georgia and contacted agriculture officials now the pest preys on honey bees and poses an extreme risk to the honey industry unless its taken out pretty quickly Motor Hornet

1:29:05 Boy, is this different than the murder hornet? I don't know. Uh...I think it's the same one they eat honey bees too. Hmm. That's a big ugly thing. I think that she just mispronounced murder. Oh that's possible. It was yeah the script was smudged. I think what they should have said is this is climate change! That would have made more sense climate change. Climate change, climate change Talking about climate change we do have a couple clips Okay Now this is a clip, it's a great clip. The problem is and it was sent to me and we can't find the source of it but its obviously some TV interview show in Australia and people listening to this I would like to get the source, I'd like to know who the interviewer is and who the woman is.

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Australian Renewable Energy Act, Wind Turbine Subsidy Critique

A former Australian policy advisor claims that the Renewable Energy Act of 2002 created a massive subsidy environment where wind companies receive up to $900,000 per turbine annually. The segment alleges that turbines often draw power from the coal-fired grid to remain spinning and that their intermittent nature makes them unreliable. The discussion suggests these subsidies are driving up consumer power bills while providing little functional benefit.

australia· renewable energy act· wind turbines· subsidies· coal power· electricity grid

1:29:57 And she's a woman that worked in government and she was environmental...it wasn't the EPA, but she worked for one of the British or sorry Australian legislators. And she's kind of an expert at this information I was starting to think about what she has to say here. And I have to say oh you know what she says has to be true in here we go He used to work for the federal government. I did, yeah for seven years. Doing what? I was policy advisor for a Liberal Party senator The area that i was working in was renewable energy and basically it was my job to uncover a lot of the stuff that was going on with the Renewable Energy Act which was put in, in 2002 under the Howard government. So that was when the Liberal Party put the act in place and I was looking at the mess that had created And what a lot of people don't understand is that The Renewable Energy Act

1:31:00 creates a subsidy environment where if you build wind turbines, you're paid between $600,000 and $900,000 per turbine per year as a subsidy alone. Well if it's on your property? No so what happens is the wind company comes in and they pay a lease to the farmer to build the wind turbines and that in effect makes sure that the farmer is still liable for the turbine. And they pay a lease of $12,000 a year usually and the company gets paid between 600-900 thousand per turbine per year So they pay 12,000 to the farmer but get 600 thousand dollars? Exactly Per turbine?

1:31:44 Yeah. This is a big incentive to put in turbines? Yeah, and the landowner takes the liability for the turbine So he gets $12,000 a year but if anything happens to it He's gotta fix it or she's gotta fix it When they catch on fire They're responsible for their neighbours' properties going up in smoke Was I sent this clip as well? I remember this And for some reason... It's nice I think you also got sent No, it got sent to you and me So let's go to part two. Part two is actually I think it is even more interesting because it brings the mind, just a consideration of the laws of physics

1:32:24 And effectively that money, the subsidy that's getting paid to wind farms is reaming $40 billion a year out of the Australian economy. Oh yeah? And it's paid by everyone every pensioner householder schools hospitals everyone It's not just outta your tax it comes outta your power bill Is this why power bills are going up? Yeah So our power bills are going up to pay for wind turbines that don't work? Exactly. And why don't they work? They don't work because, for a start they draw power off the grid so they have to have coal-fired power in order to turn. They're not windmills, they're turbines

1:33:03 And essentially... Sorry, what do you mean? The power to turn. So when we see them turning that's not the wind that is the power generator turning? Essentially they have to draw power off of the grid so they have to draw coal fired power off the grid in order to turn And what happens when the wind picks up, they do actually start to create electricity of their own. But that electricity is so intermissive and unreliable when it gets back to the grid it has to be balanced on the grid which you can't do like with your coal-fired power station You can't ramp your coal-fired power stations up and down

1:33:40 So the coal-fired power station stays at the same level because it takes 24 to 48 hours for them to get up to heat anyway. And they just let off steam as the wind comes onto the grid, so there's absolutely nothing about them that works apart from reaming that amount of money out of the Australian economy and its going offshore." I think this lady is dead! They killed her I was thinking about it because those big giant turbines that you see nowadays, they're huge. Everywhere yeah The wind can't get those things going there's no way physically possible. They have to be turned on... They gotta be kick-started they need a little booster. Beyond Kickstarter they have to be spinning

1:34:30 to a point where the wind can actually contribute to the force that's used to make them spin around. Just the laws of physics can tell you that if those things are just staying, if they're just standing there with those big blades, so you can't get those blades to move with 30 mile an hour breeze or 40 even You have to start them yourself. I wish more people understood what's going on, I mean...I have bumped into so many people in Holland who are all in on this, no wind is good you know it's good and really makes sense we've been using windmills since the 1400s

1:35:12 Yeah, but just kind of windmill. On a radio show I did real computing years ago, that was an interview show...I had the father of modern wind power who did all those blades that you see in Altamont Pass and in Palm Springs, the small ones. And I had a lot of very interesting chat with him. And I would like to...I gotta find, do some research and find out who that guy is again because I have to ask him about these big blades. He's dead! He's not gonna be...they've killed them all. It means just like right now these fires and there's a lot of talk about the fires all over Europe this is state-of-fear by Michael Crichton

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Montana Climate Change Lawsuit, Youth Constitutional Victory

A district judge in Montana ruled in favor of 16 young plaintiffs who argued the state violated their constitutional right to a "clean and healthful environment" by promoting fossil fuels. The decision requires state agencies to consider greenhouse gas emissions when evaluating energy projects. The state of Montana has announced plans to appeal the ruling, which the hosts characterize as a "publicity stunt."

montana· climate change· fossil fuels· constitutional law· greenhouse gases· lawsuit

1:35:57 This is exactly what this is. We'll get to Maui in a minute, I mean we'll get to my probably after the break But all of this is all climate change related they are pushing it They are ramming it down our throats there with did you hear about this this landmark case in Montana? No, tell me. violated the rights of children by failing to protect them from climate change. This was a case brought by kids ages 5-22, they testified in court about the impacts of wildfires drought and floods near their homes The judge in the case said scientific evidence clearly links those events to fossil fuels being promoted by the state She declared that the state's constitution guarantees are right to a clean and healthful environment which includes the climate

1:36:56 The decision now means that officials will be required to consider greenhouse gas emissions when they consider new oil and gas projects in the state of Montana. The state says it will appeal this decision, but it is inspiring this morning groups of young people in a number of other states to sue their governments to do more about climate change." Sue! It's inspiring to sue the... Now what's interesting is a clip custodian got two clips for me one from ABC about the story, one from NBC both exactly the same length. Let's see if the content is the same. And in Montana today a landmark court decision a judge siding with a group of young people who accused the state of violating their rights by supporting fossil fuels and Thompson joins us now and this could be again changing

1:37:43 It could, Lesher. And it's a sweeping victory for the 16 young people who brought the case the first of its kind to go to trial. A district judge ruled that their right to a clean and healthful environment as guaranteed by Montana's constitution was violated because the state prohibited agencies from taking climate change impacts into consideration when evaluating fossil fuel projects The judge also ruled that the ban was unconstitutional. The judge found the state knew about the dangers of greenhouse gases from fossil fuels for at least 30 years and that until the concentrations are reduced, she says young people will be unable to lead clean and healthy lives in Montana. The state says it will appeal a spokesperson called the trial absurd and a publicity stunt.

1:38:35 Publicity stunt. What's really bad about this is that this took place in Montana Yes Where you'd think They know better They know better. And Montana's got wide open skies as clean as a whistle up there, there is no dirty air. I mean if you're downwind of a copper mine... We were talking about Robisco. Well I thought you had two of these clips and you were going to do them back-to-back? No I just played them! You heard two of them back-to-back Oh I thought that you had another one. Okay. Remember Robisco we talked about on our last show this protein stuff made from alfalfa

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

Rubisco Plant Protein, Saudi Alfalfa Farming, Chinese Rock Dish

The hosts revisit "Rubisco," a plant protein derived from alfalfa, noting that a Saudi company is using unlimited water rights in Arizona to grow the crop. They debunk claims that broccoli contains as much protein as steak. The segment also features a viral story about a traditional Chinese dish from Hubei province called "suodiu," which consists of stir-fried rocks that are sucked for flavor and then discarded.

rubisco· alfalfa· arizona· saudi arabia· protein· hubei province

1:39:13 Robisco, which is supposed to give you all the protein you need. So now a Saudi company is in Arizona and they have been given unlimited water rights to grow alfalfa in Arizona which is not really good right now and this will be turned into robisco And then that same robisco report we had We heard that one ounce of broccoli Is the same protein as one ounce of steak That was Dr. Selech Rao from the Climax Healers. Yeah, and then we debunked it on the spot. Right well we got Ash in Texas and she actually has a child who can't have beef for a whole bunch of reasons metabolic disorder PKU doesn't sound good And she says look I've been on this journey for 17 years you can imagine my reaction to hearing this doctor's statement

1:40:09 So she says one ounce of steak, depending on the cut or fat level. On average 8.7 grams of protein 43 calories 315 milligrams of phe What is phe? P-H-E Phe What's PHE? I have no...P-H-E Yeah, PHE We should know this I have no idea One ounce of broccoli 0.6 grams of protein 10 calories So this is bull. Everyone's lying, it's so crazy! I know they lie and they lie on the air and then our great journalists of this country go okay... Sounds good And then we talked to him the guy said unless you're eating rocks and people sent me the sea Actually we should probably play that clip again hold on just to make sure we have that What was that? Rocks It was

1:41:13 Rubisco, Rubisco. Was it this? Scientists describe rubisco as nature's most dominant carbon dioxide fixing enzyme and are very interested in its role in the global carbon cycle. We've got Sailesh Rao on the show to make this simple enough for us to understand, hopefully. He's founder and executive director of Climate Healers a company that among many things tries to help people understand that we all have the resources we need to solve each of our global problems. Sir it is a pleasure thank you for your time Thank you for having me Before I start I just have to say your website climatehealers.org

1:41:52 describes in fascinating detail how you got involved in environmentalism, starting with seeing a documentary by Al Gore. Just tell us about Rubisco, how beneficial it is and can be? It's plant protein and ubiquitous in the world And to me this is a signal from nature saying that protein is everywhere If you eat plants, you're going to get your protein because protein is a building block of life. Unless we are eating rocks, we are not going to get enough protein in our diet." Okay so he said unless you're eating rocks and it turns out the Chinese are eating rocks! This Chinese stir-fry features rocks as the main ingredient and social media calls it quote world's hardest dish

1:42:42 People are supposed to suck off the flavors, then spit out the rocks. Hence the dish's name, so-di-o meaning suck and dispose. The dish originated in Hubei province and is said to date back hundreds of years It was reportedly passed down for generations by boatmen through their oral history. Street vendors cook the pebbles with spices, chili oil and garlic on a sizzling grill Each portion costs about 16 yuan which is around $2.30 You've been around? Have you ever seen this rock dish? No This must be some kind of programming

1:43:26 They must be just programming our brains, getting us ready. This is something phony here. Getting us ready to eat rocks and rubisco. Rocks and rubisco! I'll have my rubisco on the rocks please? Mmm yummy. I don't know...I don't know Alright, well let's see what else we get on our list. I'll tell you what why don't i thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the colap ladies and gentlemen please say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only mr john c Well good morning Mr Adam Curry In the morning all ships at sea, boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there And a

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

Glenn Beck Apple Podcasts Removal, Podcast Index Advocacy

Glenn Beck's program was briefly removed from Apple Podcasts, reportedly due to a trademark issue. Adam Curry uses the incident to advocate for the Podcast Index and independent podcasting apps that do not rely on centralized Silicon Valley platforms. The hosts emphasize that creators should not depend on Apple or Spotify, as these companies can de-platform shows without warning or clear justification.

glenn beck· apple podcasts· podcast index· spotify· censorship· trademark

1:44:14 And a big hearty in the morning to the trolls in the troll room one that well hold on a second we make sure We count them properly There are the trolls 1890 That sounds about right. You know I figured out what happened on Sunday show it was my mistake I had not sent out The bat signal two pod verse and You know, which you give me crap for that I keep saying podverse because there must be a couple hundred people who really rely on that bat signal. And that's why it was low we were down by a couple hundred

1:44:56 So that's what happened. Yeah, yeah more than 300 at least something like that so I apologize. I apologize people are like hey i didn't get a bad thing and this is why we have a newsletter this is why we remind people that there's a show coming up tomorrow because people have busy lives they got lots of podcasts to listen to except uh I guess not the Glenn Beck podcast did you hear what happened there? Yeah, they still can't get to the bottom of it. I have his clip here. Just sitting here in my office and we're discussing something that we just saw here this is

1:45:34 From Apple we found an issue with your show the Glenn Beck program which must be resolved before it's available on Apple podcast Your shows been removed from Apple podcast from the apple podcast team Now so he went on and on and first of all I'm sitting there going like Glen Did you listen to what? I told you when I was on your show twice that you need to tell people not to use ditched a legacy app which is Apple, because there's over 65 apps and services that use podcastindex.org And his show was just fine there It was just fine So I'm a little irked about that And then he wants everyone to petition people Yes! Tell Apple to put us back on That is sad it's really sad We're not even on Spotify because we won't sign their contract Which allows them to do whatever they want including put advertising in an around our show

1:46:31 Yeah. You know, this is... People are- Although there is a fake no agenda done by some kids? Is it our show or is it their own show? No, no. It's their own show. Sue them! Well we would like to at least mention them to take the damn thing down but they have no email address and you can't track him down Jay has been working on this Nobody knows who they are nobody listens to it They're a couple of kids And its called NO AGENDA That's great Yeah, well NO AGENDA Anyway, this is a problem you won't run into if you are in the troll room. Trollroom.io where you can always hang out and listen to the live show but if you want to make sure that all of your favorite podcasts even if they're thrown off some of the big tech Silicon Valley platforms

1:47:23 It'll still continue. You go to podcastapps.com and with the live shows you'll get a notification if I remember to send it out, and then you can open up the app that has all your existing podcasts in it safe and secure because they're not going to be thrown away! They won't be. And as you know Southern Poverty Law Center is after podcasts. Very dangerous... There's no moderation Well Apple either moderate-I heard it might have been a trademark issue That's what, Variety magazine did an article on it. And was it a... What was the trademark issue? What exactly was it? Nobody knows! Glenn Beck said there was a trademark- he also admitted that there is a trademark issue thats been resolved but it was months ago and the actual trademark issue has never brought out in this story. And Beck didn't say It just seems volatile you know You can't depend on these guys That why I started Podcast Index three years ago

1:48:23 You can't depend on it. They don't care and everybody thinks... No, they don't care that's the real problem it's not that that they're evil or malicious. No, they don't care. They are but besides that... They don't care about you! They don't care, that's the main thing. And then and then you see on X... That's not like a profit center for them to distribute one product. In fact it probably irksome to them. In fact they probably would rather not do it. Yeah exactly and if you look at the comments on x formerly known as Twitter You see stuff like, that's okay. We hate hate speech anyway! We don't need you on Apple! Who are these people? We hate hate speech. Glenn Beck is the furthest from a hate speech you can imagine

1:49:12 Anyway, get one of those modern podcast apps. So it doesn't happen to you and you don't miss your favorite no agenda show and the way people are these days is my ultimate point is you'll forget like oh what day's it? And you'll forget you won't get notified or won't show up if you're using Apple podcasts and you're like gee what happened to those No Agenda guys And you're going to miss out on all the... I guess they quit. Yeah, well but here's these new kids i found on Spotify. They're kind of cool! Listen to them oh man You can also follow us on noagendasocial.com for as long as that lasts. I think signups are open again in fact I'm quite sure Let's put Brunetti on it Dude did you see Brunetti's Gran Turismo movie? That's a hit

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Gran Turismo Movie, Product Placement and Positive Role Models

The hosts discuss the new "Gran Turismo" film, noting its heavy use of Sony product placement but praising its depiction of positive male role models. Adam Curry mentions that No Agenda race car driver Ashlyn Speed gave the movie a positive review. The segment also touches on the difficulty of getting movies produced without significant corporate sponsorship in the current industry climate.

gran turismo· sony· orlando bloom· nissan· movie review· product placement

1:50:01 I think so. I've only seen one negative review we got to and the negative review was valid, and I think Brunetti would go for it. The negative review was that it was like a little like Barbie in that it had way too many product placements. Yeah, I heard the first half hour is basically all product placement Yeah, Sony mostly. That's the only way you can get a movie made these days I'm sure Well Sony is one of the production companies so you know they're gonna plug their product in it Asked us hey do you want to do the movie or not? Ashlyn Speed The official No Agenda race car driver She went to see it she loved it she and her dad Greg Two thumbs up One of the best movies ever made I'm hearing that A lot of people like it because It's just You know it's like a positive male role model

1:50:49 figure in this movie? Yeah, all the male role models are positive. Except for the one guy who worked for Nissan who's played by Orlando Bloom That guy who also initiated the whole thing of getting these kids to train to be real race car drivers, turns out as you watch him develop in the movie is just a weasel. He's good though! Orlando Bloom plays a terrific weasel. Okay have you seen the movie? Yeah, I went to see it with Brunetti when he did a preview in Sacramento. Oh! I talked about on the show. Oh that's right oh man...I want to go to a red carpet...well there was no more red carpet previews There was no red carpet it was just at you know yeah It was at the IMAX in the middle of nowhere outside of Sacramento Well I look forward to it Although the middle nowhere is pretty packed

1:51:42 Hmm. Without- It's cool though to do that without promotion, that's not bad That's not bad Anyway you can follow us on NoahJendersocial.com Alright message to Aaron we need to get Brunetti Save an account for Brunetti John wants him I thought he was already on He lost his password and did the same thing I did, tried to retrieve it but none of the mechanisms worked. The mechanisms work fine you just had the wrong email address. And he's so long gone that he has been kicked off by now twice. I'm telling you! It worked fine... We'll give him a real easy password. Okay alright we will come up with something for him

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Executive Producer Credits, Value-for-Value Donations

Adam Curry and John Dvorak acknowledge the financial support of their "Executive Producers" and "Associate Executive Producers" for episode 1582. They discuss the "Value-for-Value" model and thank Sir Paul Couture for the episode's cover art. The segment includes the reading of donation notes, birthday shout-outs, and the "Jobs" jingle for Linda Lupatkin's career services.

value-for-value· executive producer· donations· knighthood· paul couture· linda lupatkin

1:52:25 You can follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com or Adam at noagendasocial.com and I know that we're open again because, um...I'm getting people saying, I don't know the answer to the question! Now you have to answer a couple of No Agenda related questions to see if you're worthy of an account, which I think is pretty good. What's ITM mean? Stuff like that! If you're like... I don't understand and I don't have it right. I've got the...I don't have the right answers. Well, well, you'll have to figure that out now this is a value for value show which is why when if people kick us off of Apple we don't really care because we have all these other great apps that you can listen to us in And we don't need the...we won't have that immediate hit

1:53:19 Because, you know the whole podcast industrial complex runs on downloads and as long as your app is still running and it downloads the show whether you listen to it or not that's how advertisers get duped into paying money. To advertise on these shows And so the minute that stops then whoops There goes all your income from the app. No, we use the value for value system We pioneered it about 15 and a half years ago coming up on our 16th anniversary in October I believe And you can find out more about the actual system, value4value.info, the number four, value for value dot info and one of the great ways that people contribute their time talent or treasure is art we love the art that the artists put together for us We always have a plethora to select from

1:54:11 In fact, I want to thank the artist for episode 1581. We titled that Quippy! This was hands down we both knew it right away The art was by Sir Paul Couture Artist numero uno He also runs noagendaartgenerator.com which you can use to upload or you can be Refreshing in real time or go back later and look at all the pieces of art we didn't choose disagree with us if you want Of course, we also use many of these pieces in our chapter art in the Modern Podcast apps. Paul Couture really nailed it with this one. In fact I think you said he's going for the win? No he wasn't fooling around Yeah that's exactly what it sounded like He was going for the win Wasn't fooling around What else did we look at? We did look at some other things Not really anything Yeah we did It wasn't competitive enough but

1:55:10 Man getting sucked into a jet engine, which I'm still hoping will be... We'll eventually see this happen somewhere. We need another suicide by jet engine ingestion. What else was up here? Eat Xerox, we had melons, rain bombs. Was there nothing that we looked at? No! I am saying nothing it was just one thing and that was it I did use the rubber ducky from a couple of shows ago for the newsletter Which is just a stunning piece, but I can't remember who did it scaramanga or one of the guys It was that was done by yes caramonga. It's just a patricious to I mean it's done By that is a art generator doing as AI But it's just he really

1:56:05 Yeah, he really told the AI what to do and he did a good job of it. Yeah now we love it Sir Paul Couture Thank you very much for for doing that He actually did two pieces one with a lighter color which shows the loader lighter background color That was the one to go with and it didn't make a difference You can compete along with all of the artists know agenda art generator comments open For all to upload to and to participate in the grand no agenda our challenge twice a week Now for the treasure, we like to thank our executive and associate executive producers right off the bat. These are real titles you can keep them they are forever titles so if you come in at $300 or above you're an executive producer of the episode this will be 1582 between 200-300 associate executive producer And these are recognized anywhere credits are respected and the way things are going

1:56:59 With the strikes, more and more people. Yeah load up! Load up now while you can We start our executive producership list with Cesar Baptista from Saugerties New York 363-64 And this came in as a note and I have said notes Lined up your John and Adam the time has come to drag myself over the line and become a Noah Jenna night So please accept my donation with an extra penny for the jar. Let me get my jar out here I didn't bring that There's Penny Jar, thank you very much You guys deserve it? I survived the James true owl attack little pants gang violence and the Jort wars what is this what is this oh

1:57:51 James True Owl attack, James True's owl attack and Little Pants gang violence in the Jort Wars? Do you have any idea what that means?" I have no idea. So I've locked up the bikes and committed myself to be a better boy even Ira's aching back has gotten better though! I doubt the kombucha deserves the credit sorry Ira Anywho please knight me Sir Gripsalot of the righty-tighty And prepare ripe mandarin bananas and some scarce but worthy Caeudelia. Caeudelia for the after party Wow, this isn't code man Jingles whooping with the Constitution Rev Al no real conflict and you're gonna need a Bitcoin also shout out to D's laughs who spits end of show fire Caesar Baptista from Saugerties New York Get out there and whup Obama's behind! Oh it's classic remix There is no real conflict

1:58:52 They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin. That's definitely going to be the weirdest note of the day so it quickly comes up from Spring Texas with 333 dot 33 as we move along quite quickly, we don't have a lot of donations today was pretty lame um three three three dot three three happy thirty-third to me Can I please have another 33 year old may have a biscuit for my birthday and some mac and cheese Yeah, thanks for all that you do much love from Houston kind regards Jonathan Walker sir Quigley of the cantankerous Yes, I was looking for the I was looking at that we I was trying to spell that weird

1:59:34 That weird drink, I was having trouble with it. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese! Mac and cheese! Macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese! Mac and cheese! Mac and cheese! And we have Sir Crystal Ball in Dallas Texas 333 dot 33 We love that number well F If Curry's doing a show while on vacation, WTF is my excuse for not donating? A lot of people apparently didn't think the same way you did. Yeah you're like the only guy! But we appreciate ya'. We really do I haven't heard a stay safe in awhile so that would be good Okay well let me see if i got to stay safe for you Oh thats interesting

2:00:23 Stay safe. Where are we? Where's my big goods, this one here we go. Good to see you please stay safe Yeah stay safe That would be good Sir Chris DeBald the opportunity thank you very much sir Onward with Sir Dave Goes where'd he go I don't know In Naples Florida He is the first associate executive producer 280 dollars and 82 cents ITM Jans far beat for me to succumb to peer pressure But when Baron JB the original hater oh i'm sorry hitter of my mouth over a decade ago calls me to task on show 1581, I must step up and defend my honor. Plus no agenda deserves any treasure they receive thanks for all you do fellas! Sir Dave goes and all your friends hit the metal spirits free booze for the roundtable yeah yeah i love their t-shirt sir michael mayatico?

2:01:20 Milton, Ontario Canada. Or Mayotico? Maybe...Mayotico that would be better. Milton, Ontario Canada 236 25 we're already in our associate executive producers. Hi, John and Adam Thank you for the best podcast in the universe I couldn't let my little brother Rob be the only executive producer in the family so I'm chipping in oh that's right he did send 333.33 canadian aviary He gets an upgrade That's right We still love our Canadian neighbors This is my 50th birthday gift to myself So can I get a birthday shout out to me August 16 yes

2:01:58 Done. Also my son Mason, August 18th and my dad Jerry August 19th also close together be much appreciated I love the show on the no agenda community big shout out to everybody on No Agenda Social! I always take the karma and then Al Sharpton jingle of your choice Sir Michael Matyiko Knight of The NO AGENDA Roundtable PSF Trudeau R-E-S-P-I-C-T And a Karma for you sir You've got Karma Now we have Ed Musial from Waterford, Michigan at 222.94 with too long a note but I'll read it anyway Hello John and Adam! I started listening to No Agenda a bit over a year ago It quickly became obvious that i'd be listening enough that I should donate

2:02:43 In the time since that first donation, I have binged on many many shows. Binged. Binged? Binged! Binged. I've binge-ed on many many shows... Every show is a binge. I would recommend to new and seasoned listeners to occasionally review old episodes which we discourage as it would happen. We discourage? I just listen to episode 5. We do. Well, I do But I think you're in agreement. You know, there's a lot of reasons for it."

2:03:31 for the next binge stream. In that episode, 50 minutes into the show there was mention of the vaccine push being woven into legislation. Episode 151 one hour and 10 minutes in there was discussion... This is a reason we don't want people listening to these old shows. There was discussion of what excuse would be generated together DNA from us slaves With the perspective of having to test for COVID to return to work and the test had to be in the invasive PCR test, I wondered if that could have been a DNA collection vector. Probably. I have arrived at night level with my donation. Well good for you! Accounting Below continued to donate The Obscurity Of Sustaining

2:04:18 In this obscurity of sustaining level, which means I guess a subscription as I visit the current and archive shows. I like to take the title sir Sir who's ed? Who's it? Who's it? Please have cold stout on hand at the roundtable try see brewing giant slayer is the best part, it's a beer that he wants on there. Thank you for your dedication to The Best Podcast I regret not catching on earlier Ed. That's alright Ed we're happy to have you here Oh! You know what? Yeah you do good work If you don't mind since you do it best I'll take Leanne after you do Linda Lou Patkins There she is

2:05:04 Jobs Karma. Still not blinking? For a competitive edge, go to ImageMakersInc dot com for all your executive resume and job search needs! That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com or just find Linda Lupatkin on the producer list John buy Theo shoes Hey she did something new that was quite cute i love how you abused your grandchild in the newsletter. Well done! If you don't know what we're talking about, you better subscribe to the newsletter all kinds of good child abuse in there. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs

2:06:02 No, that's the PayPal limit I think. On some...I think on mobile. It says, But what's in a title when you are my prince charming and hold the keys to my heart? Everything else pales in comparison to the joy you bring me. It is burning inside of her, Steve! I truthfully could not survive this world without you. I am blessed beyond measure to have you—to laugh with, love with, pray with and share the good and bad in life. I love that we are still learning new things about each other and daily growing closer to God together.

2:06:48 I've really enjoyed our 38 years of courtship and they never had a fight. Could you give him anything? By Reverend Al, I pray God brings you a fabulous year ahead! You deserve it! Uh...You deserve the best and i'm devoted to you your lovely Lady Leanne." Oh isn't that just nice yes I think we should do uh well since you brought it up why don't we do a little respect everybody can use some of that R-E-S-P-I-C-T And we'll throw in a gratuitous goat for him. You've got... Now that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers. As John said, it's a little light today. All eight of them! Yeah so he is going to take us through to the 50s and then we'll get into our nightings and our meetups etc We're gonna start with Erie Kiaragi in Prague Oklahoma Oh And this is switcheroo for Brian Mickey Super daddy for five gatos To celebrate his birthday and we got him on the list

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Small Donation Acknowledgments, Sustaining Producers

The hosts read through a list of producers who contributed amounts under $200, including several "boob" donations ($80.08) and "biscuit" donations. They thank the community for their support during the "dog days of summer" when donation lists are typically lighter. This segment reinforces the show's reliance on direct listener funding rather than traditional advertising.

donations· producers· anonymous· sustaining· no agenda· funding

2:07:53 Albert Peter Jeroen Verheij. Jeroen, Jeroen, not urine. Jeroen, Jeroen, and he is at 13333. Dame Jennifer Northfield Massachusetts 122 dot 23 switcheroo for Sir Paul of the command. Oh there you go! With a happy birthday When did Dame Jennifer move to Northfield, Massachusetts? We have more Jennifers. Oh yes we do we have a lot of Jennifer's this is true Deborah Mascas in Winnipeg California 13332 she sent a note a card in that was cute I want to at least bring it up because

2:08:45 She clipped off a nice 45 cent Canadian stamp that she says, to replace the Australian stamp you accidentally ruined. You're the only person I know that would love this stamp and she sends this crazy stamp from Canada it's like two people wrestling or something against the background of a red moon in a maple leaf. I didn't get the stamp only got the note Well, they know okay. Well anyways thanks for give us an island of column in the sea of insanity she writes there you go Sir foam finger number one is back with from Louisville Kentucky under $11 11 cents

2:09:28 Lucas Williams Roswell, New Mexico 100 bucks sir Paul in Twickenham Middlesex UK 99 and he's got a birthday call for himself Kevin McLaughlin is up next from Cochran North Carolina with the boob donation of 8008 and he is promoting Today banana melons, that's banana melons. That's your food Alan graves in milkers Minnesota 808 there you go good name for the town for the 8008 donation Kevin McLaughlin is back already with 6006 and here he is promoting a

2:10:13 Select Rocket Melons. Select Rocket Melons. Aubrey Barnes in Fayetteville, Arkansas 6006 and he's a de-douching. You've been de-douched! Andrew Edwards in Niceville, Florida. Niceville 5678 and it's a birthday call out Adam Wayne in Copperas Cove Texas this is another birthday shout-out 5555

2:10:50 for the smoking hot game of The Absurd. James Edmondson, South Plainfield New Jersey 5510 Edward Richard Futter in London UK 5510 Christine Hines in Manchester New Hampshire 51-23. Bob Butler in Cumming, Georgia 50-69 you missed my donation from last Thursday I'm still counting it for my knighthood sure and then he comes in with another 50 69 that's where we miss because they came at the same time there you go 60 69 for Bob Butler Christian Freeman, San Marcos Texas 50. Oh and the rest of these are fifties there's not that many Kevin Dills in Huntersville North Carolina Michael Thompson in New Brownfells Texas Philip Ballou in Louisville Kentucky big pop-up production Big Popper Productions in Minneapolis Michael Perrotte Pirote Parrot in Salem Oregon Kelly McDill in Mission Hills Kansas

2:11:51 Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Crystal Richer in Pilot Point Texas Nathan Cochran in Franklin Tennessee Steven Schumach in Zinnia Ohio he's still with us Peter Odoe in Ridge New York Jason Pulse... Joan I'm sorry Joan hello Joan Pulse in Hernando Beach California Florida, Hernando Beach, Florida. Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Rose Richardson in Oracle Arizona John Catalano and House Springs Missouri and last on the list is Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, Florida

2:12:40 Yes, and we thank everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity or perhaps you're on one of the many sustaining donations. They do help in these days of the dog days of summer with lighter donation lists and we are very appreciative of that And if you'd like to become a producer of The No Agenda Show Or an executive or associate executive producer and have one of those fancy titles go here! slash n a thank you again for supporting us for episode 1582 our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Knighthood Ceremony, New Knights Dubbed

Cesar Baptista and Ed Musial are officially knighted as "Sir Gripsalot of the Righty Tighty" and "Sir Woz Ed" for their cumulative contributions of $1,000 or more. The hosts perform the traditional dubbing ceremony and invite the new knights to the "No Agenda Roundtable." Information regarding exclusive knight and dame rings at noagenderings.com is also provided.

knighthood· cesar baptista· ed musial· no agenda rings· ceremony· donation

2:13:30 Now we do have quite a list for birthdays. Sir Michael Mayadico turns 50 on the 16th, Sir Paul of the command line celebrated on the 16th, Sir Michael Mydico... Mayattico wishes his son Mason a happy birthday on the 18th. Sir William wishes Dame DC girl of Alexandria, Virginia happy birthday she also celebrates on the 18th that's all tomorrow sir Michael is back which is dad Jerry a happy birthday on the 19th Leanne Webb of course wishes sir OG Godcastle C Webb a happy birthday in the 19th Eric Kiyaragi

2:14:06 says happy birthday to Brian Mickey on the 19th. Caitlin will be turning 19 on August 24 and Caitlin wishes her mom Jessica a happy birthday, turning 45 on the 25th. Sir Quigley is turning 33 Dame Jennifer's his happy birthday to sir Paul of the command line Andrew Edwards wishes Kirsty Christie a happy birthday and Adam Wayne says Happy Birthday today of The Absurd and we say Happy Birthday to all of these people on behalf of the staff and management of The No Agenda Show! We, of course do not have any title changes but we do have two knights. And uh... Will you gladly pull out? I've a Spanish blade. Here ya go. Got one here from the Inquisition. There we go Up on stage please sir! Uh let's see

2:14:55 Cesar Baptista, there we go. Cesar Baptista and Sir Waz Ed. Gentlemen both of you have supported the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more I'm very pleased and proud to pronounce Kate thee as Sir Gripsalot of the Righty Tighty and Ed Musil becomes Sir Woz Ed. Gentlemen, welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable for you we've got hookers & blow, rent boys and Chardonnay We got some weird ones like ripe mandarin bananas and cuya de la ha da cold stout from Tri-City Brewing Giant Slayer would be the kind And of course we also have some mutton & mead lined up for you as we always do while you feast on that if you want by the way we also have some ginger ale & gerbils Go over to noagenderings.com

2:15:39 You can see the handsome knight rings on display there. All you have to do is size up your ring, you can do that with the handy Ring-a-Sizer on the website and send in your address so we can send it off to you Anyone can go take a look at these rings they are exclusively for Noah's agenda knights and for dames More information is always to be found at Dvorak dot org slash NA Thank you very much for supporting The Best Podcast In The Universe! NOAH'S AGENDA! It is the perfect accoutrement that you need to have with your NOA Agenda show. It's an accessory, it's something that just has to be a part of your daily life, your monthly life. You need to attend a NOA Agenda meetup at least once and once you go it's like potato chips...you cannot stop! You will want to go over and over again as is witnessed by the 2023 Central Texas Float Meet-Up

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Central Texas Float Trip, Global Gatherings

The segment features audio clips from the 2023 Central Texas Float Meet-up in San Marcos. Upcoming gatherings are announced for Denver, Charlotte, Richmond, and the Lowlands festival in the Netherlands. A "Skeptical Weirdos of Maui" meetup is mentioned, though its status is uncertain due to the recent wildfires. The hosts reiterate the slogan "connection is protection" for the listener community.

meetups· san marcos· maui· denver· netherlands· connection is protection

2:16:34 Once again, lots of people came floated and met up in the morning get my nation doing it in post Adam We missed you and Tina. We will definitely be looking forward to our next meetup to see your shiny happy faces I said running for local 512 saying that we were rolling on the river This is her Eric from Dallas Texas In the morning thank you to producer Eric who woke up on time because he didn't go to sleep This is Psalm Skippy with a Y coming to you from a knowage in the meetup, in the evening y'all and in the morning. Caleb from Cali here I am here with my smoking hot girlfriend and I am over-informed and under socialized Hi this is Emerson and I'm having a great time In the morning this is Cynthia in San Marco

2:17:18 Greg here from Buda in the morning everybody, here at the No Agenda meetup in San Marcos. At the rail yard! Hi this is Sir Caddick Mass from Dallas I'm so glad I floated on down to the railyard trains good planes bad. In the morning this is Sarah Shonan coming down from Fort Worth to go on the river Hey it's a baronettist Mary Brett here didn't get to go on the float but I came here to meet everybody thanks for your courage Chris from Milagro Farm had the best meetup on the river today. Scott was the leader and I was the tail Yes, exactly! The slogan connection is protection And if you want to connect to be to get some protect You can still head off to the Mile High Meet up

2:18:02 at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. They'll be meeting today at 630 Charlotte Thursday, 7 o'clock tonight and you can have your pee checked by the bio people in Charlotte North Carolina at Ed's Tavern on Saturday The Skeptical Weirdos of Maui will get together at 11 o'clock Hawaii time at Lunapoco Beach Park that's in West Maui and Let's see the park is selected in West Maui near the fire zone not sure if this event is on Maybe check a no agenda meetups comm just to make sure that everything's copacetic with that Also on Saturday in the morning Richmond noon 1230 at strange ways brewing in Richmond, Virginia D lowlands meetup

2:18:48 That will be, oh this is the Netherlands. Oh it's a big festival the Lowlands and the NOAA Gender Slaves will be meeting up at The Alpha Stage that's in Biddinghuizen in Flevoland, The Netherlands at 1230 Greenwich Mean Time just to make it more complicated check noagendermeetups.com to make sure that will be cool though because the lowlands is like a big multi-day festival also on Saturday the Fort Worth monthly one o'clock at Flipz Patio Grill Fort Worth Texas The OKC we who he Southside one o'clock at the garage I 240 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Also on Saturday. It's like a pool party and Rhode Island 130 location by RSVP only the home of Lady Butter

2:19:33 in Rhode Island. You might want RSVP for that one! The Shrunken and Amygdala Support Group meets at 2 o'clock at Taft's Bruporium in Cincinnati, Ohio on Saturday and the South Carolina Mid-State Where Are U Meetup at 330 at Bar Figaro in Newbury, South Carolina Flight of the Noah gen to meet up number 43 trains good planes bad 333 homebound brew house in Los Angeles, California Leo Bravo Of course hosting that spot the spook as well on Saturday 5 o'clock the West End Grill in Huntsville Alabama The super you per monthly bash 5 p.m.. Jack Pine Lodge in Manistique Michigan and the last one on the list is Sunday the 20th

2:20:16 That will be the don't drow me Santa Fe meetup of course with Sir Jeff Towe hosting and that is at the second Street Brewery in Santa Fe in New Mexico, and I believe I have a promo here Get ready to shrink wrap your amygdala on Saturday August 26 in Safety Harbor, Florida Free speech will flow from 3 to 6 p.m At Giggle Waters Social Club hosted by the one and only Dame Bullysteed all nights dames and even douchebags are encouraged to RSVP today at Noah agenda meetups.com No agenda meetups connection is protection go to no agenda meetups calm to find out where one is going to be held near you if You can't find one near you start when yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

ISO Soundbite Competition, Maui Fire Book Controversy

Adam and John compete with new "ISO" soundbites before discussing a controversial book titled "Fire and Fury" about the Maui wildfires. The book appeared on Amazon just days after the fire began, leading to suspicions that it was AI-generated or pre-written. The 44-page Kindle book links the disaster to climate change, which the hosts view as a rapid narrative deployment.

soundbites· maui· amazon· kindle· fire and fury· climate change

2:21:14 What are you yammering about? Hello. Oh, did I lose you no, I'm here oh okay that was weird You went dead! I went dead?! And then you came in with somebody yammering Hold on a second um...I don't know did i go dead? Did I go dead I thought i heard you yammering in the background. Well, I don't know what you were hearing but it wasn't me. Oh well there's something else okay so it's hard to tell whenever I hear something yammering I presume it's you? I think that's a reasonable presumption but no... But no not this time! I have a question let's talk about Maui for a second didn't at first of all... Are we going to do ISOs? oh I'm sorry you're right and do I do even yeah I do have isos I think I got a lot of iso

2:22:18 Whoa, I do want to talk about Maui. Yeah because of the new book What are your ISOs? What are yours okay? I'll go first. I have this one 100% Lee Okay, please I have this one it was a pleasure eating bugs with you Okay Falls apart that is Incredibly good news okay Thank you for talking yeah, I thought that was a good one Beat that I don't know if I can they're mine are crappy, but I do have three okay. Let's start with reasons Reasons for those reasons we're out From shark tank no actually it was from a podcast oh really mm-hmm About this one get a job Okay then move on move on

2:23:18 I don't think you can beat my, uh... My, uh, here which I think this one. Thank you for talking! I think that's just too good. I thought the other one was better? You- Uhmm okay this one That is incredibly good news. Yeah that one Our whole show has been incredibly good news Alright. Yeah, you want to talk about the book? This book is bullsh- Bullcrap! Oh this is bullshit I got a note from one of our producers who's a book writer Hold on let me just set this up So a book shows up on Amazon And, hold on I have it here. It's called...I got it right here Fire and Fury the story of the 2023 Maui fire and its implications for climate change Can I just point out one glaring thing that no one has really mentioned? It's 44 pages! Yeah so it is a kindle book. It's a giblet. It's not even..it's a blog post

CHAPTER 33 / 42 Discussion

Maui Wildfire Response, Barack Obama Video, Directed Energy Weapons

The hosts analyze the response to the Lahaina wildfires, dismissing "directed energy weapon" conspiracy theories in favor of evidence pointing to poorly managed power lines. Barack Obama released a video seeking donations for the Hawaii Red Cross and "Malama Maui," which the hosts criticize for its poor production quality. The segment highlights the lack of emergency sirens during the initial blaze.

maui· lahaina· barack obama· red cross· directed energy weapons· conspiracy theories

2:24:17 Yeah, it probably is but this guy's irked about producer Paul. He says I've written 20 books and never had one written edited bound in one day before the event covered ended I mean, the fire was still going when this book comes out. Yeah that was pretty good But it is a Kindle book It's not really bound Okay well you wouldn't expect that but what...I think what so interesting about this event first of all its horrific event its much worse than we know it is and I think its really really bad but they threw in this conspiracy stuff so quickly

2:24:59 that it's really removed the entire focus on the blame. You know, it was like oh the directed energy weapons and no come on! It was so... this is...it's so obvious once you take a look at it that yes No one really minded that this burned down because they've been, I think they've been looking at this beautiful Maui landscape for a long time but they throw in all this directed energy weapon stuff just to you know call everybody a kook. No it's because Republicans are stupid Oh, this is just to it. It's more of the same you know to make me Republicans look like but it's all Republicans obviously no Democrat would ever think such a thing. Let's play. Is that okay? That's my guess here's my Maui update. Okay

2:25:50 And next, the death toll from the Maui wildfires climbs to 106 and the Biden administration now promising a full reimbursement for some emergency work. That he has approved the governor's request for 100% reimbursement for the emergency work that is being done for a period of 30 days within the first 120 days at the governor's choosing It has been a week since the wildfire began in Maui The blaze travelled from grasslands all the way into popular tourist destination Lahaina 2200 buildings burnt down in a matter of hours and the scale of the damage is becoming clear as search-and-rescue continues. To rebuild Lahaina, FEMA said that the estimated cost could total up to $5.5 billion dollars

2:26:33 What are conditions like there now? A highway into Lahaina reopened at 6 a.m. local time today, allowing residents and first responders back in for the first time. Communication remains difficult as much of the electricity is still off although power companies said it's back for about 80% of the island A small aircraft flew along the coast using loudspeaker to tell people where to get water and supplies. But folks on the island are questioning the state's emergency notification system. Sirens stationed around the island never sounded. Okay, so I will pick it up there. I've done...I've had a lot of time to look at this and the Maui chief

2:27:19 did a little chat. This is very, very interesting that people are... there's a lot of... Okay let me step back for one second There's a lot of Hawaiian being spoken and to me a lot of it is virtue signaling and I'm a little sick of it You know? It's all like where's your aloha Where's your malaka makalaka And everyone who does that-I don't understand Hawaiian! And everyone's doing this. By the way where's Tulsi Gabbard Haven't heard from her. She hasn't come out and said anything yet, but of course interesting Obama comes out So Bob we got the OS where he lived I'm sorry Obama comes out. I just slipped there so Obama comes cute yeah And now he apparently lived in Hawaii growing up and and he does a whole bunch of this stuff everybody

2:28:09 Like so many people around the world, Michelle and I have been absolutely heartbroken by the devastating images coming out of Maui and Lahaina over the last week. As someone who grew up in Hawaii as someone who has taken my family to enjoy the incredible beauty on that island and the hospitality of the people of Lahaina We now find ourselves mourning the lives that are lost and our thoughts and prayers go out to the families that have lost so much. The thing about it is though, thoughts and prayers in a moment like this are not enough. Yeah! We have to step up and we have to help those families. Step Up! Climate Change! And we have to help Lahaina rebuild. And the good news is that the Hawaii Red Cross and Malama Maui are mobilizing What's Malana Maui? Have you heard of Malana Maui?

2:29:04 See, this was such a crappy video. Horrible sound... He looks like crap and then he's mentioning these names- I mean Hawaiian Red Cross okay but he mentions Malana Howie? Maui? I've never heard of this there is no lower third nothing! To provide direct support to people who are desperately in need. I'm asking you to do everything you can to generously support the Malawa Maui effort, but if all of us, Biohana, pull together and do as much as we can Mahana. To give back to an island and a town, and people who have given us so much I'm absolutely confident that Lahaina and Maui and those families are going be able to rebuild but we've gotta get part of that So please provide generous support to the Hawaiian Red Cross And to Malama Maui right now Mahalo Nui Loa

2:30:07 So now we get the Maui chief, you'll hear some more of this Aloha business. The Maui chief who did not sound the alarm... Can I just throw a weird thing in there? Did you know that the police chief from Maui was the same police chief that was in Las Vegas during that shooting thing from the hotel? Yes, I do know that and so what you need to say after that John is, coincidence?! I think not! I mean, that's...I mean yeah he was there in 2017. Yeah i'm just saying I just thought it was screwy. But this is a real disaster and I am the first guy to say directed energy weapon if its true. I am the first guy to come out with any conspiracy theories. Wait! If it's true? Oh yeah well directed energy weapons are real This is not this case This is very clearly

CHAPTER 34 / 42 Discussion

Hawaiian Electric Lawsuits, Emergency Management Failures, "Aloha" Protocol

Hawaiian Electric faces multiple lawsuits after data showed dozens of electrical faults occurring as the wildfires started. Maui’s Emergency Operations Chief, who had no prior disaster experience, defended the decision not to sound sirens, claiming they are primarily for tsunamis and would have led people toward the fire. Officials at a press conference urged reporters to show "Aloha and kindness" when questioning the response.

hawaiian electric· fani willis· josh green· sirens· tsunami· aloha

2:31:03 caused by power lines. Tonight search teams in Lahaina continue their heartbreaking work already more than 100 bodies found and they're still looking for the lost what was once a paradise is now a mass grave while the cause of the blaze is still being investigated there's increasing scrutiny on Hawaiian Electric data from whisker labs, a private company that monitors the grid through a network of sensors shows 34 major electrical incidents on the power lines around Lahaina. Literally dozens and dozens of faults occurring over that several hour period overnight, any one of which could cause a arc fault that would cause and spark a wildfire. Hawaiian Electric didn't specifically address that data or the multiple lawsuits but said in part we know there is speculation about what started

2:31:55 The causes haven't been determined. This was a preventable circumstance. Graham Lipsmith is one of the attorneys who filed suit against the utility. The ultra hazardous activity was keeping the power running during this very serious wind event. But Hawaiian Electric CEO told me they don't have a program for shutting off power. It can be seen as creating a hardship for those customers that have medical needs in Lahaina, the electricity powers the pumps that provide the water and so that was also a critical need during that time. Shutting off the power wasn't an option just to understand what you're saying? There are choices

2:32:36 All of those factors play into it. I think that's a pretty good report even though it was from NBC It seemed that seems reasonable to me and we have a lot of producers who've been made emailing me boots on the ground A lot of a lot of producers So this is why I'm just not gonna go into all the conspiracy stuff and you can stop emailing me about it And but there was more this was complete mismanagement complete stupidity including the entire emergency management agency. And tonight we're learning shocking new details that reveal Maui residents aren't just dealing with a monumental natural disaster, but also a disastrous response. CBS News has learned that Maui's Emergency Operations Chief had no disaster experience. Well why does that matter? Because it is his department that is responsible for setting off the warning sirens

2:33:32 For the first time since the early hours of the tragedy, the main Lahaina Road is now open allowing residents to see what's left. There are now at least 40 cadaver dogs helping with the search, going block after block of burnt out homes and cars looking for the hundreds of people that are still unaccounted for. The White House announcing today that the President and First Lady will travel to Maui on Monday to survey the destruction and meet with first responders and survivors. And by the way I'd like to point out that one of the senators of Hawaii is that moron Mazie Hirono so no wonder this state's a mess

2:34:08 And so now we get to the Maui chief and he's going to explain why there was no siren that went off. Apparently they had cell phone warnings but that came very, very late in the game but he does not regret it. Do you regret not sounding the sirens? I do not and the reason why... So many people said they could have been saved if they had time to escape. Is this the fire chief or the Chief of Emergency Response? Chief of Emergency Response Okay. He was in charge of the, uh...in charge of the sirens! Yeah and the report said he has zero experience in this arena Correct

2:34:51 And as we know, so many bodies were found in the ground. Do you want him to give you the answer? So this is some dude who steps in who was not in uniform steps out from behind the chief and says hey You want me to get the answer you want to be a bit It's not very Mahalo of you that's governor Josh Green Is that green That guy's a dick. We're found in the ground. Do you want him to give you the answer or do you wanna let him finish I'm sorry, there's a lot of people. Well you're talking and you're not letting him talk if you want to talk come up here. I'm ready for the answer then wait. The sirens as i mentioned earlier is used primarily for tsunamis and that's the reason why many of them are found almost all of them are found on the coastline

2:35:39 The public is trained to seek higher ground in the event that the siren is sounded. In fact, on the website of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency, a firing guideline is provided if you are in a low-lying area near the coastline evacuate to high grounds inland or vertically to fourth floor and higher over concrete building alerts may also come in the form of wireless emergency alert Had we sounded this siren that night were afraid people would have gone mauka And if that was the case, then they would have gone into the fire. So what he's saying is when people hear the siren then they immediately run for higher ground because that means it's a tsunami and they only use it for tsunami.

2:36:24 Some other official stepping in and telling everybody they better show some aloha. Our protocol has been to use W-E-A and EAS, by the way I should also note that there are no sirens mauka or on the mountainside where the fire was spreading down so why not of the sound of the siren you would not have saved those people under on the mountain side I'm going to do another friendly reminder that we encourage aloha and kindness. Again, we appreciate the questions but i would encourage all of us to operate under the values of Aloha and Kindness so as you're asking the question please respect the speaker who is responding and give them that space just as they're giving you this space for you to ask your question. Everyone please show some aloha kindness now...I don't understand something here

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Hawaii Siren History, Land Acquisition Concerns, iPhone "Battery-Gate" Settlement

The hosts point out that Hawaii previously tested its siren system for nuclear attack warnings, contradicting claims that they are only for tsunamis. Governor Josh Green’s comments about the state potentially acquiring fire-damaged land for "workforce housing" are met with skepticism. In a separate tech update, Apple is beginning to pay out $500 million to settle the "battery-gate" lawsuit, with eligible users receiving roughly $65 each.

sirens· north korea· josh green· insurance· apple· battery-gate

2:37:13 He's saying the sirens, that means that you know that's only for tsunamis and we like giving the emergency alerts. Well I wasn't born yesterday and i've been doing this show for a while And I remember that Hawaii had used sirens for something completely different That was not tsunami related They've got giant voice systems It's the sound of peril in paradise Today for the first time since the Cold War era, a nuclear attack warning system is active in Hawaii. Vern Miyagi's team triggers the alarm. The situation with North Korea and all of things that we've been seeing over the past... I don't have to play the whole report but they set up a whole system

2:37:58 And they had that was backed up by the alerts. You remember it one was triggered accidentally people were freaking out They all went to shelter competence that we're seeing with this guy This is bullcrap this not sounding the alarm saying it's only for tsunami Doesn't make sense I may be wrong doesn't make sense to me now to this governor green Now what? If the idea was, hey you know if that thing ever...if this all burns down one day and it burns every single year because of poor management after the plantations were removed. And they never did- Yeah after the sugar cane crops were removed, the fire controlled burns were stopped. Same thing! Poor management of the forest in Paradise exactly the same type of horrific results

2:38:49 So, we're just not doing that. If the idea was to do that you know once it burns I'll let it burn you know and then we're gonna take over that land and sell it off. I think Governor Green actually admits that in this clip. I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land so we can put it into workforce housing, to put it back in families or make open spaces and perpetuity as a memorial. We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place and behind it will rebuild. The tragedy right now is loss of life. Buildings can be rebuilt over time even the banyan tree may survive

2:39:34 But we don't want this to become a cleared space where then, yes people from overseas just come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first." So I think that's what is going to happen the state will take over the land because the insurance companies are not gonna pay out Maui fires come in a moment of turmoil for the insurance industry. Hawaii had the nation's lowest rate for homeowner coverage because it had not suffered many natural disasters and a lot of the buildings are not up to code we're not gonna cover you, No! We're not going to take care of you these poor people they really getting screwed big time and then Oprah who

2:40:21 whose place didn't burn for whatever reason. I'm sure it's because she's Illuminati, uh... She goes to one of the shelters with a CBS camera! She goes over there- Oh let me go get some great footage for Gale Luckily they said no No Yeah they put the kibosh on the camera You can have the camera in there That just clinches it for me So, and we'll probably never know exactly what happened. And so they put her as you know she ended up being filmed by somebody with a phone Of course But it's like yeah this was a publicity stunt It was shameless It really is Don't you think? Yeah it's really bad Duh! So I feel very badly for these people and I'll send them all the aloha malaka lakaha whatever I don't speak the language but man God bless you people

2:41:18 Have mercy on you. And the local reports I'm getting from people is very, very bad. Well they rousted them now they can build some cool stuff. Yeah yeah so it's just sad while we're on the topic of roasting. While were on the topic of rousting Apple apparently was rousting people they roused people with that do remember that they purposely made their iPhones underperform when they got older? Yeah, of course they did. That was smart thing to do and they got off cheap Apple is telling eligible iPhone users their checks are in the mail The company says it will pay up to 500 million dollars to settle this so-called battery gate class action lawsuit about six years ago users began accusing Apple of deliberately slowing down older iPhones with aging batteries payments will amount to about 65 bucks per person 65 bucks I know who cares

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

AI School Bus Routing Failure, Banking AI Implementation

Jefferson County Public Schools in Kentucky experienced a "meltdown" after using an AI-driven mathematical model to redesign bus routes, leaving children stranded until 10 p.m. The district's $200,000 investment in the technology resulted in a total system failure and school closures. Additionally, a listener reports that a major U.S. bank is attempting to replace human customer service knowledge bases with AI, despite internal skepticism.

ai· machine learning· school bus· jefferson county· kentucky· ibm watson

2:42:19 I do know. Yeah, no, I was gonna do one more big tech story of what which one this is the company that got hired originally in Ohio or Kentucky and Kentucky yes to use AI You know, the AI stuff all the great AI to manage this city's school bus routes. This morning no school again today for Jefferson County Kentucky public schools after this week's school bus meltdown

2:42:56 We were lucky that he was three hours late. Parents like Erin Hinson waiting hour after hour for their child to be bused home after school, the latest arrival time incredibly just before 10 p.m.. going to the bathroom on the bus because they were there for so long. There were kids sitting in cafeterias until well after 7 30. My child did not get home until eight o'clock, she got home at eight o'clock because I had to go through the bus depot So pick her up as well. The problem last school year, The district made major changes to its transportation plan citing bus driver shortages and other staff vacancies spending $200,000 on a firm that cut routes and stops

2:43:39 But to some parents, the changes seem to have made things worse. And they said their mathematical models and machine learning technology is a way to save money. Smooth outcomes... When you listen to longer versions of this report, you hear stuff like I didn't... I have another minute of this if you want to hear it Oh yeah the thing i'm looking for is the point where they show that plan did the bus drivers and they all say This is not doable Let me see if its in here

2:44:21 bus drivers that are crying as they come in and they're leaving apologizing. And I don't believe it's their fault. Superintendent Marty Polio releasing a statement announcing schools will be closed till Monday, we have to be better at what we are doing and once again I'll say this that lies squarely on my shoulders and my team shoulders. It is not on bus drivers, it's not on the school, it's on me and my team and we are going to fix this." But this parent says the superintendent's transportation plan flat out failed. It's project management like if this is your project, this is your job, this is what you get paid to do and if there's anyone I feel like

2:45:02 You sound up about a little bit. Most drivers in the Louisville area are spending the canceled school days practicing routes and making changes, but parents are worried Monday will be another dismal day for student drop-offs Adam and John will listen to episode 1581 you asked the question about what fortune 500 company would be using AI for well I'm a team manager in customer service one of the ten biggest banks in the US I'm a recent roundtable meeting, the topic of AI was discussed. They let us know the company is looking into implementing AI into our customer service knowledge base which houses all of our processes and procedures These procedures are to be searched for and used by the frontline staff during each customer interaction, to ensure any and all disclosures and all steps are followed to address any customer concerns. The thought is AI will help reduce human error in locating the correct process or procedure." I don't know which bank this is but they're doomed! And I got a note from one of our producers who works at IBM

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

San Francisco Driverless Car Expansion, Emergency Vehicle Interference

California regulators voted 3-1 to allow Cruise and Waymo to expand their driverless taxi services in San Francisco, despite strong opposition from the city's fire and police departments. Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson warned that autonomous vehicles have blocked firehouse driveways and interfered with emergency scenes. The hosts mock the technology's reliability, referencing a recent incident where a car drove into wet cement.

cruise· waymo· san francisco· autonomous vehicles· fire department· taxi

2:46:01 It's so bad there that now they're, you know because they still have Watson. Now they have Watson X and they're doing in-house hackathons Hey guys see if you can come up with any cool products that we can use and everyone was like this shit doesn't work You can't do anything There's nothing of any interesting importance that their kid that they can create with this Other than answer questions I got the AI story Oh good driverless cars in San Francisco. Here we go! A utilities commission in California has voted to allow driverless car companies act like taxis in San Francisco but as NPR's Derek Kerr reports

2:46:44 They've faced resistance from emergency responders. The San Francisco Police and Fire Departments have been vocal about their opposition to driverless cars they say the vehicles have impeded first responders operations running through yellow emergency tape and blocking firehouse driveways here's San Francisco Fire Chief Janine Nicholson Our folks cannot be paying attention to an autonomous vehicle when we've got ladders to throw. Nicholson has been urging California's transportation regulator to halt the growth of driverless vehicle programs in the city, but in a three-to-one vote regulators decided to allow their programs to expand now autonomous vehicles run by Cruz and Waymo can pick up passengers and charge a fare just like a taxi

2:47:33 This is so dumb! It really, there's nothing that... it just doesn't work. Computers can't- The newsletter photo of the one that went into a cement? Oh hold on! Whoa whoa! Hey I'm Zipgender AI! I can do anything these guys caaaan't Well that's true No agenda does have the best A.I That's true The return of Zippy So uh.. Zippy's gonna, he is our AI and Zippy is just going to come in and start telling us what's going on. It was direct energy weapons! Yeah well hopefully he does a better job... He's gonna get everything wrong Can you say D-E-W? That would burn Maui man See, Zippy knows Yes So there's this weird story about it that isn't covered by many people I don't know but its funny story I don't know why they're not covering it but I think I got this from NTD

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Travis King North Korea Detention, Racial Discrimination Claims

North Korea has officially confirmed the detention of U.S. soldier Travis King, who crossed the border during a DMZ tour. State media claims King sought refuge due to "inhumane maltreatment and racial discrimination" within the U.S. Army. King's family reports that he had been acting strangely and felt his life was in danger prior to the incident, while the Pentagon continues to work for his safe return.

travis king· north korea· us army· dmz· pentagon· racial discrimination

2:48:34 This is the tale of, you know, the guy...the American soldier that gets picked up by the North Koreans? Yeah I do have a...before we do the NCD report let's do the uh...I have this. I have this. I have this. NBC Lester Holt It's short, it's 23 seconds. For the first time tonight there is word from North Korea about that U.S soldier who bolted last month. North Korea state media says private Travis King confessed to crossing into the north because of quote inhuman maltreatment and racial discrimination against the US Army or within the US Army The Pentagon says it can't verify the alleged comments and remains focused on Kings safe return Yeah

2:49:19 This is N.T.D. Here we go. North Korea... I'm sorry, I was just gonna say it's a little more elaborate. Yeah no doubt! And North Korea has broken its silence on a crucial matter the nation has confirmed detaining the US soldier who recently crossed the border into North Korea And TDS Jason Perry has the latest. On Wednesday, North Korea officially confirmed it has detained a U.S soldier who ran across the border. Witnesses say the soldier sprinted across the border while on a private tour of the demilitarized zone. The newly released statement by North Korean state media says Travis King, a private second class

2:50:00 in the US Army illegally intruded into the territory of North Korea. It added that during an investigation, King confessed that he decided to go to North Korea because he quote harbored ill feelings against inhumane maltreatment and racial discrimination within the U S army. The statement also said that Travis wanted to seek refuge in North Korea or another country there was no immediate verification that Travis actually made these statements But his uncle said previously on ABC that King had said something similar and that he appeared to change after getting into a fight and going to jail. The messages became strange, I was like you okay? And then he's telling me no they're trying to kill me. Then saying things like say they racist. It made it seem like something was going on with him

2:50:50 like he was there for his life. And his mom said prior to King crossing the border that she got a strange call from him in the middle of the night and I was half sleeping, He just called me to scream. I'm not the army soldier you want me to be? I'm not the army soldier You want me to be and he kept screaming that out loud and then all of a sudden the phone hung up and then they're taking them to the hospital. And king's grandfather previously said this on A P. I think something wrong with me. They He ain't thinking clearly. I don't think he would just ran out there like that. Well, I'd like to see him come back Whoa this is much much more in-depth how come we're not getting this here? They don't want to push this sort of maybe the other people run to North Korea because it's very embarrassing Wow why would anyone want to go to North Korea when you can have all this great stuff It's part two of the clip

2:51:44 On Wednesday, State Department Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel was asked about North Korea's recent statement on Private King. What I can say is that we cannot verify the comments attributed to Private King what i will say though that we remain focused on his safe return and our priority is to bring private king home and we are working through all available channels to achieve that outcome Patel added that since King crossed the border, North Korea has not responded to any messages from the State Department. A spokesperson for King's family Jonathan Franks recently posted a message on X on behalf of the family and says Kings mother is worried about her son and she would be grateful for a phone call from him. I think this was a good story. Yeah! I can't get used to people saying x though it's so weird

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

Javier Milei, Argentina Presidential Primary, "The Wig"

Right-wing economist Javier Milei, nicknamed "La Peluca" (The Wig), has emerged as a leading candidate for Argentina's presidency after a strong primary performance. Milei proposes radical changes, including abolishing the central bank, dollarizing the economy, and cutting government spending to combat hyperinflation. The hosts compare his anti-establishment style and wild hair to Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro.

javier milei· argentina· bitcoin· inflation· donald trump· dollarization

2:52:39 Very, very weird. I don't see it. Okay there's a couple other things in the news that are interesting This...I got..I think this is from France24 not hearing a lot about this guy but apparently the leading candidate for Argentina's presidency it was an interesting guy He's a right winger, I think. Well he is beyond that! They call him the Whig? This guy is crazy! They call him La Peluca or the wig for his wild hair. Rock anthems always provide the soundtrack to his rallies The former singer of a Rolling Stones tribute band and economics professor promises radical change in a country where two political forces have ruled for decades people are sick at the cost of living crisis

2:53:39 It doesn't matter whether it is good or bad manners. Enough of the fallacy of discussing form! Let's discuss content, the content that you don't want and that we have plenty of." I therefore invite Argentinians to join the liberal revolution that will make Argentina a world power again in 35 years The so-called Milayistas, supporters of Milet say he's offering something completely different. He is flattered to be called an Argentinian Donald Trump or Jair Bolsonaro. Critics say his credentials are straight from anti establishment central casting

2:54:17 A long-time political chat show guest draws a crowd wherever he goes. He opposes abortion, denies the existence of global warming and calls Argentina a tax hell pledging a rapid reduction in government spending and changing the currency to the dollar. Elections are two months away but primaries reflect the anger at the political system The current president Alberto Fernandez is standing down blamed for the failure to tackle the economic crisis and spiraling inflation Many Argentinians prepared to gamble on the unpredictable disillusioned by the tried-and-tested Yeah, this guy's interesting. He's also a bit coiner makes him even funnier he looks like Trump and like Trump and Elvis kind of mixed

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Libya Militia Fighting, African Small Arms Trafficking

Heavy fighting between rival militias in Tripoli has resulted in at least 45 deaths, highlighting the continued instability in Libya since the 2011 overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi. The hosts discuss reports that small arms from Libyan stockpiles are flooding across Africa. They reference Hillary Clinton's past involvement in the region and the 2012 Benghazi attack as part of the broader "stink" of U.S. intervention.

libya· tripoli· militias· muammar gaddafi· hillary clinton· arms trafficking

2:55:03 He's got the sideburns and everything. I like it, it was very interesting. It was definitely going to provide entertainment. Update...I have some...it's in the show notes people can take a look at. It appears that a lot of small arms so with that itself is AK-47 etc., that are blanketing the belt of Africa are coming from Libya Which is another tell in my book. Well, to make that tell even more interesting play my Libby advance warning clip

2:55:42 Where is it? Oh, okay. Got it! After two days of heavy fighting some semblance of calm has returned to the Libyan capital security forces are patrolling the streets of Tripoli local media report that rival militias began exchanging gunfire Monday The violence acclaimed at least 45 lives in the Libyan capital this week underscores the power struggle that's grown since the late dictator Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown and later killed more than a decade ago. Now weren't we shipping arms to Libya? Wasn't that part of the whole problem wasn't that part of what Hillary Clinton was doing when her ambassador got killed? Weren't these arms going to Libya? Well I'm not sure where she was shipping arms but probably he

2:56:34 We came, he left. We died." You know that kind of thing? Yeah! That's... yeah we came, he saw, he died. That one. Well, we came, we saw, he died. Yeah that's what I mean. I don't know but this stinks all this stinks It totally stinks! I do have a Niger report but that's good for the next show i think we're running out of time But I wanted to do one more thing on I want to do one more thing on Ukraine because there is some movement, there is some development. And the first one is... Have you seen this crazy spokeshole for Ukraine now? The American transgender? Yeah that one Sarah Ashton Cirillo. Quickie from Sarah Do you know the difference between us and them

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Ukraine War Updates, Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, Black Sea Cargo Ship

The segment features Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, an American transgender spokesperson for the Ukrainian Territorial Defense Forces, who characterizes Russian soldiers as "not human." Meanwhile, the first cargo ship has departed Odessa via a temporary Black Sea corridor since Russia ended the grain deal. The Hong Kong-flagged vessel had been blocked in port for 17 months, raising questions about its actual cargo.

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2:57:27 Besides fighting under this flag and for freedom on behalf of the people of Ukraine, all the Russians are fighting for tyranny and dictatorship. It's pretty simple We're human And those guys most definitely aren't Slavukrainy! Well did you hear the one where he calls Putin a vampire? Oh no, I didn't get that one! That's... Well that's the better one. Nooo! Do you have it?! He says you can see that he has got blood coming out of the corner of his mouth and he knows... Nooo Yes! Something is phony about this guy What is...? I don't believe any of it that he's a spokesperson for anyone

2:58:11 Yeah, I'm not sure what... there's weird stuff going on. And then this I'd say is kind of the thing that we need to be looking at this cargo ship here we go so you know cargo ships have not been able to leave the port and we've kind of been thinking that this is because arms are on these ships but But this is still under the grain deal. Oh, we've got to get some ships off because people can't eat they need cereals and grain And then this report comes out. So Emmanuelle let's start off with this cargo ship in the Black Sea What's the latest there? Well This is a first cargo ship to depart the Ukrainian port of Odessa since last week Ukraine

2:58:56 announcement that it would open a temporary corridor in the Black Sea, in a bid to unblock the situation. To send some of those ships willing to sail with cargo on board to other ports and this ship has left Porto de Odessa this morning with 30 000 tons of goods It was blocked in Odessa port for 17 months. It bears a flag from Hong Kong and as you mentioned it is sailing now

2:59:35 in the Black Sea and there remains to be seen like which response Russia will give knowing that yesterday it stopped, it halted a ship that was sailing towards Ukraine because Moscow warned that any ship outgoing or incoming from Ukrainian ports might be considered a threat. And this comes nearly months after Russia decided not to renew the Black Sea Agreement on serials and nearly months after Russia started to heavily shell Ukrainian port

3:00:11 infrastructure in the south of the country. The latest of this attack happening last night with at least 13 drones sent against port infrastructures and damaging grain depots in Leni and Ismail ports in the south of Ukraine." Alright, this being Thursday we don't have a recent update so we do not know exactly if Russia has stopped this shipment or not? If they don't I think that must mean something good maybe there is some some deal underway. If they do, I mean you heard it's all these tonnage of goods but not necessarily grain just some cereal could be all kinds of stuff and it's under a Hong Kong flag So this is weird Yeah Okay that's the best response I can get That's all your gonna get from me

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Show Wrap-up, Vacation Schedule, End-of-Show Mix

Adam Curry and John Dvorak conclude the episode, announcing that the next show will also follow a vacation schedule. They preview a special "No Agenda Opens" episode coming on Thursday. The show ends with a listener-produced music mix featuring themes of the migrant crisis, Maui, and "Big Mike" conspiracy theories regarding Michelle Obama.

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3:01:08 Did you want to play anything else before we leave? They're in seven, they've spent their 17 months gotta be... You know it seems pretty fishy. It's not filled with grain and would go bad Yeah Do I have one last thing or I have Niger I'll play that on the next show The inflation reduction stuff is no good. Play that in the next show No, I'm good. Okay. I'm done. You're done alright. You're done Well everybody Doing it here on The Vacation Hope you appreciate the value you received. Let me see, what do we have coming up on No Agenda? Are you going to vacation hours again next Sunday? Yeah I'll do it again next Sunday definitely. Same hour same time same place? Same time same place and you and i have to do the wrap-arounds for the special that we have on Thursday after that which is gonna be a doozy It's all of the no agenda opens

3:02:07 The rest actually quite if anything's gonna be dense. It's gonna be that show yeah, no it's it's pretty trippy actually Grumpy old Ben's coming up next AI power. I'll be good they're talking about a I end of show mixes and the show mixes sir Michael Anthony DS laughs and Maddie J coming to you from the just 20 miles south of the Austin of The Texas of Spain Barcelona in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA Until then adios mofos a-hooey hooey and such! Ain't no more room in my town We got the migrant crisis overload Why don't we all just go back home?

3:03:04 I invited y'all, but I was wrong. If you thought we cared now you see we don't So no more room in my town New York is one of the few states where you have right to shelter We're not allowed to say we don't have room. We have no more room in the city Many times I've been hurt before My heart destroyed, I can't take no more We got sharks eating nails and drugs Best shark we've promo with a cocaine brain What a plug Native ad real story like the cocaine bear Telling us how to feel Why should we even care Cut the cord why are you watching TV It's called programming for a reason Companies pay to advertise Has never been entertaining Or what do people want to see Are you surprised Strike for actor inside is bad The real enemy is big tech

3:04:03 Amazon owns MGM studio. Give us your content, we'll give you zero. Eating to post three times a day for the algorithm 98% are barely working so who's really winning? Now we got Snoop complaining too. Billions of streams only pull a milli and who would view too many movies and shows to consume But for adding in sports there's only so much room Screen time is outrageous What really broke us? People on ADHD meds can't even focus They say not to talk about religion, politics What a scam! Politics Hey Big Mike Where you heading? A big mike. Big Mike. Big Mike

3:04:50 Big Mike is a cartoon. Big Mike, it's Mike! Mike! Big Mike... You're big Mike? Right?! That's a family name. Big Mike. Big Mike. Mike! Hey! Your next big guy! Respect Big Mike! That's a big bitch. My nigga that's a man. This is not news! If Big Mike says this happened, it happened! That's the black man's experience. That's a real man. Big Mike. Damn that's a big bitch. She looks like an NBA center. He's got a dick, he's a guy. That man is really a man! Mike! Uh that's a man... That's a MAN? That's right! It's a MAN baby! Mike! Mike! Whippercock had gone and I'm Big Mike! Mike?! The Chinese would give up! Mike! That man is a fraud! Mike! Ohhhh!

3:05:36 Oh, that's Big Mike. That's a huge bitch! Boom! Big Mike 2024 first trans black president. This little bitch is huge. Michael and I... That's right. I am a man. Maybe you are big mike who cares? What? If Michelle Obama took her cock out at the Democratic National Convention, the Chinese would go we're thrown in a towel. We can't compete with them. That's why! I'm just saying... Shoulders are wide her face is very very masculine she appeared to have a very large penis in her pants and I've got very high level sources that are keeping their...I'm serious okay? She's actually part of the Legion of Doom

3:06:22 That is incredibly good news.