Grip & Grin

00:00 Hottest year on record! Up and away and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 16 in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all seeing the balloon, the balloon, the balloon. I'm John C. Dvorak. Here we go everybody, sing along! Oh goodness. The hoax psyop of the century. I love this story. It was the best. Fair warning, John.

00:55 During the the fat lady segment I have we did a little work on my on my teeth on Friday and my lower bridge popped off so it's just like jammed it in with you know I didn't even clean it properly just jammed it in with some geriatric pace so at any moment that could fly off but hopefully it'll stick well hopefully it won't become a continuing bit on the show it's not supposed to be a bit Thanks, though. You wear a... wear a bit. It's not a bit. Okay, okay, okay. It just sucks. I'm telling you. I bet it does. Now let's go with the balloon. Wait! Supercut time! What do you say? Oh, hold on. Let me think. I have... okay, wait. Let's hold off the supercut because I have introductory clips that really don't have any serious meaning to them. They're just from NHK and around the world. Well, that's what the supercut is too.

01:55 Yeah, but the supercut will point out the stupidity of it all and I think you should put that closer to the end. Okay. Which one do you want to start with? Well, we can start with Balloon NHK. This is a three-parter. Balloon NHK. China and the United States have been at odds for years now. A trade war, tensions on Taiwan, the South China Sea, and Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the fault lines have widened as Washington scrambles to counter Beijing's rising economic and strategic influence. But this week's appearance of a giant Chinese balloon over the skies of North America is threatening to further destabilize that relationship. Washington says it's being used to spy. In response, it cancelled a planned visit to Beijing by Secretary of State Antony Blinken. China maintains that it's a civilian weather balloon that was blown off course.

02:51 The Pentagon says a second balloon has now been spotted over Latin America. All right, all right. We'll comment after everything, including the supercut. Yeah, let's go balloon two, another report from NHK. We cannot reward the CCP for this kind of flagrant violation of our sovereignty by pretending everything is business as normal. Stop, stop, I gotta set this one up. This is some Republican congressman, a Republican specifically, showboating. You know, like this balloon is a big deal and he's got to make his, he gets his, finally gets his airtime on NHK. Now, Gallagher, I can't even remember his name, he's so meaningless, but go on. I cannot reward the CCP for this kind of flagrant violation of our sovereignty by pretending everything is business as normal. And a grip and grin session with Xi Jinping as this was happening would have been a terrible look for US diplomacy. The CCP will continue to push the envelope until we push back.

03:45 This isn't the first time that China has launched a spy balloon over the United States. The Pentagon says that in recent years surveillance balloons have been spotted over Guam and Hawaii. All right, new term, grip and grin. This is what we'll be used for meetups from now on. I like the grip and grin. I like grip and grin too. Hey everybody, time to grip and grin! And finally the last clip from NHK balloon finale. US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin says US military fighter aircraft has shot down a Chinese surveillance balloon over waters of the South Carolina coast. This footage shows a white object believed to be the balloon falling with a white plume above it.

04:27 In a statement on Saturday, Austin said the balloon was successfully brought down at the direction of President Joe Biden. Biden told reporters that he had ordered the Pentagon on Wednesday to shoot it down safely as soon as possible. They successfully took it down and I want to compliment our aviators who did it. The Defense Secretary's statement said the balloon was being used to surveil strategic sites on the US mainland. China had described the balloon as a civilian airship used mainly for weather research. All right, now let's get to the fun stuff. Let's just blow... That was... That was foreign media.

05:05 Just as stupid as our own media here tonight breaking news as we come on the air the Pentagon just moments ago What's flying over the US the suspected Chinese surveillance balloon the size of three buses? We come on the air tonight with some breaking news We have just learned that the Pentagon is tracking a suspected Chinese spy balloon. We're gonna begin with that massive spy I balloon. The Pentagon says a second Chinese spy balloon is currently moving across Latin America. It's also been reported that these balloons have the ability to steer themselves. Well on Wednesday the spy balloon was over Montana. Montana is home to several nuclear weapons sites. There are intercontinental ballistic missiles, the Minuteman 3, that have silos right here

06:04 Everybody and their brother out there wants the thing shot down. We look weak, we look terrible, why aren't we shooting down the balloon? Why aren't we shooting down the balloon? Tonight, new details about the dramatic US shoot down of a Chinese spy balloon over US airspace. The US is working to recover the debris from a Chinese spy balloon that was shot down on Saturday. The Navy and the Coast Guard are securing the perimeter to collect that debris with unmanned vehicles and divers. officials gonna be looking for? They're gonna be looking for the censor package that was underneath that balloon. Remember that the administration said that this was a spy balloon. I got a censor package for you right here. Thank You Clip Custodian. That's a No Agenda exclusive supercut, not just taken off the YouTube somewhere. I thought this ABC lady, she brought in something really, that I only realized when I when I heard her come to this breaking news, that there's something

06:56 People something news models will say when they really want it to be incredibly important of dire importance listen Good afternoon. I'm Lindsay Davis at ABC News headquarters in New York We're coming on the air at this hour with breaking news there it is we're coming on the air at this hour at this hour Mark down the hour at this hour because you know at this hour You know I was listening some really old clips from years ago And breaking news is relatively new that used to be called News Flash. Oh, that's interesting. We have a News Flash. Yeah, in fact...

07:36 Yeah, I don't think we've even ever updated our here. That's our newsflash sound and it's even labeled newsflash You're right. It's never been brick. And then of course it went from breaking news to breaking to breaking right? We're breaking breaking breaking breaking breaking you have to fill in the news part yourself I Gotta getting paid by the word. I guess I got a couple other Clips here that I think would make sense just so in case you didn't hear about this happening Here's our president. On Wednesday when I was briefed on the balloon, I ordered the Pentagon to shoot it down. Like, I was briefed on the balloon. Do you hear yourself? On Wednesday when I was briefed on the balloon, I ordered the Pentagon to shoot it down on Wednesday as soon as possible.

08:27 They decided without doing damage to anyone on the ground. They decided that the best time to do that was when they got over water outside within our 12 mile limit. They successfully took it down and I want to compliment our aviators who did it and we'll have more to report on this a little later. Well done aviators. You know, just as an aside, early on it was pointed out that if you... aviators... and then he got on his velocipede and left. It was pointed out that if someone had just put a couple of holes in it instead of blowing it up... Oh no, but that wouldn't have been dramatic enough.

09:11 It would have drifted down and they could have just as it was putting the whole Yes, yeah, they could have just picked a gear off perfectly in good shape instead They drop dump it in the water where they'll never if they find it's gonna be ruined Oh, no, it turns out it was 47 feet deep. So they'll be able to find it easily There's much shallower than they expected which means they can bring in whatever phony baloney thing they have now just oh look. Oh look this This is what was on it. You wait, they're gonna show this. They're gonna have pictures of it displayed, almost like a drug bust. No, it'll be very similar to the Roswell. Yes, yes, pieces of the balloon. Yes Roswell. You're right. This is our Roswell of our age. Yes I have a few more short ones here. Here we go. Oh Yeah, this is this is America everybody just want you to know when we're when we see a spy balloon And we've got our aviators to go and blow it up. This is how we react on the ground. Here we go Oh

10:11 A dramatic moment caught on camera off the coast of South Carolina. By 2.39, US fighter jets took down a Chinese spy balloon that had been making its way across American airspace over the past several days. A senior US defense official says the balloon was shot down by a single F-22 with one air-to-air missile. The F-22 flying at approximately 58,000 feet while the balloon was at an altitude between 60 and 65,000 feet. Eventually a poof of smoke, the balloon expected to land in the Atlantic Ocean where it can be collected for military analysis. There's a lot of bullcrap going on here and you're right let's start with how high up it was and how big this thing is. I'm not quite sure... Well let's start with the... well before we even do that let's start with the expanse

10:59 of taking an F-22, our most expensive plane, and flying it up and then shooting a rocket at this thing instead of a couple of shots. Okay, okay But that wouldn't be dramatic man. I mean you could shoot it with a BB gun It probably cost a million bucks to bring this thing down whatever we could it right you could shoot it with a BB gun You could have shot it with a biplane, but it was my understanding the goggles No, I think you need some oxygen the biplane would be a little it'll be very chill no my understanding was by the time they shot it down I was at 35,000 feet

11:37 This thing was never at, I mean, it was maybe at 47,000 feet at one point. But hold on a second. Let's just get something really straight here. We have had spy mechanisms in balloons ever since Gorgon Stare, if you remember that. We talked about that a lot in 2013, 2014. We can see down to a square foot from these things and we have the balloons everywhere. We're proud of it, story after story about our rapid expansion of balloons as a spy system. So these things typically are 120,000 feet. And the way I see it is

12:18 Look up, that's a spy balloon. Don't worry, we're not spying on you America, because you'd be able to see it if we were spying on you. That's part of PSYOP number one. This thing was... And then school buses, I'm not quite sure what the mind control is of that. Who came, I don't even know who broke this news, breaking first. Breaking. But it was very clear that I was in the car. CBS I'm guessing. Probably. And I'm switching, it's Fox, it's CNN, it's MSNBC, everybody. No, they're all in on it. Everybody's all in on it and all of a sudden it's like national security, oh it's China. So finally the Republicans have something to bitch about.

13:05 Democrats in America, Russia, Russia, Russia. Now it's China, China. It's the Republicans, they got through China. And seemingly, Most of America just went along with it. And then to turn it into an international incident by blowing it out of the sky, even though they've been tracking it apparently for several days. And then for Anthony Blinken not to go to China because, oh no, this is very serious. You had this balloon overhead. China's decision to fly a surveillance balloon over the continental United States is both unacceptable and irresponsible.

13:43 Irresponsible? I agree though. I hate balloons. I've been in balloons. You don't land a balloon. It's a controlled crash. I'm sorry for balloon pilots out there, but it sucks, okay? I'm gonna take exception to everything you said. Okay. I've been in a balloon a couple times and I was in one once in Napa Valley and it was exactly the way you describe it. Then I was in Switzerland and I was being shown around a bunch of tech stuff and I was taken up with a couple other guys with the Swiss national ballooning champion. Yeah, it's unbelievable when you get a guy like that he can drive the balloon like it's up he can move it from here to there he sees the what the clothes I living that's called pilot he pilots it and

14:40 And then he, because he just goes to different altitudes and then it goes in a different direction. It's astonishing. Yeah, I know. You got lucky. You got lucky you're not dead. Believe me, I realize this. And then when we landed it, it was like, it was like, it was a soft, very soft, and it was like, and he went like, don't move. And then he would do something else and he said, okay, you can get out and somebody got out and the balloon would wiggle a little bit. It was unbelievable. But then again, I'm never going to get a balloon ride again. I'm never going to take one unless I get this guy. I'm putting it into our agreement that you are not allowed to go in any more balloons. I told my daughter, if some TV show says you got to go in a balloon, you refuse.

15:26 Which she did, they actually asked her. And I know the balloon and aviation industry will be very mad at me. I don't like it, I don't like it. And so now they're piloting this thing remotely. No, they're not. The whole thing is bullcrap. There's no way. All of this is bullcrap. Now, is it a Chinese balloon? Maybe. Was it a weather balloon? Maybe. It doesn't matter. They've got satellites overhead watching all the time, but now? No. This is being abused to set up bullshit with China, which we needed, of course, because you know the whole Russia thing and Ukraine that's going to start coming to an end. We'll talk about that in a moment. So we need to start up the next theater of war. And Anthony Blinken, of course, completely complicit. China's decision to fly a surveillance balloon over the continental United States is both unacceptable and irresponsible.

16:18 That's what this is about It's a violation of our sovereignty. It's a violation of international law violation of international law Okay If indeed it is a spy balloon, but don't worry. We'll get the Roswell pictures now What it's so obvious why this is being used because we even get going back to NHK I got a clip from Japan Bill Burns the director of CIA and Listen to what he has to say. Countries are increasingly wary of China, which is continuing its military buildup. The head of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency is warning of China's intentions in the Indo-Pacific. William Burns says President Xi Jinping appears to be readying for an invasion of Taiwan by 2027. We know as a matter of intelligence that he's instructed the People's Liberation Army to be ready

17:18 by 2027 to conduct a successful invasion. Now that does not mean that he's decided to conduct an invasion in 2027 or any other year, but it's a reminder of the seriousness of his focus and his ambition. Burns warned Xi should not be underestimated. The Chinese president is currently serving his third term in office. It expires in 2027. Burns said Xi is closely watching Russia's invasion of Ukraine and is likely unsettled and a little sobered by the performance of the Russian military.

17:53 So there's our favorite year, 2027 on deck. And in what universe does the director of CIA come out and say, yeah, China wants a war in 2027? In what universe does this happen? That's what I'd like to know. That's crazy. And this is at Georgetown University. Yeah, Georgetown. I think it was George Washington, something with a G. But in what universe does that happen? Oh, maybe, maybe Maybe we're antagonizing China a little bit. That's why they... Well, that's what we did to Russia to get them to invade Ukraine. Listen to this. The United States and the Philippines announced plans to expand America's military presence in that country with access to four additional military sites. The move comes as China has taken increasingly aggressive actions toward Taiwan, which it maintains as part of its territory.

18:43 The new agreement would allow the United States to put military equipment and facilities in as many as nine locations inside the Philippines. That move would create the largest US military presence in the Philippines in some 30 years. Now in America we're pretty stupid, but if everyone goes to Google Maps right now, take a look at where the Philippines is. Take a look at where those bases are. Well that's more egregious than a balloon. Well, I have four clips from Voice of America that discuss this exact topic. Let's do it Wait a minute the propaganda station Voice of America. Love it. Yeah. Yeah. This is good Oh, yeah, and by the way, this sound they have a funny muffled sound that I just there's nothing you do about but this is USA Of course that they did pull it off the shortwave

19:33 It's on the internet. Oh yeah, okay good one John. The United States Embassy in the Solomon Islands is now open, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday, as Washington seeks to boost diplomatic relations in the Pacific as a counter to China. The Solomon Islands entered a security pact with China last year. U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin says the United States and South Korea will increase the pace and scope of joint military exercises and expand intelligence sharing in response to repeated and more frequent missile tests by North Korea. Did they have that music under it too? Yeah, they play music bad. It's really disgusting.

20:12 They do it on all the reports. It's very very lame and it's dumb if you're doing it on shortwave. It's only gonna mess up the audio. I know it is. So this is the reason Blinkett didn't want to go because he's gonna have to account for all this stuff that's going on over there. Yes, thank you. Exactly. So here we go at part two. The US is set to gain access to four more Philippine military bases. US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and his Filipino counterpart Carlito Galvez made the announcement Thursday in Manila. They did not specify the locations, but in November, the Philippines said the US had sought access to military camps mostly located in the northern Philippine region of Luzon. The US left its own bases in the Philippines in 1992 after the leases weren't renewed by the Philippines government.

21:00 The northernmost tip of Luzon sits about 320 kilometers south of Taiwan, putting it within range of shore-based missiles. A US presence on Luzon could deter China from invading Taiwan. So please pay no attention to what dicks we are in the region. No, no, look at the balloon. The balloon. The balloon. The balloon. Before we play this, let's play the third one that I have a headline to read. Third, play it. Philippines and neighboring countries have also been dealing with increasing Chinese aggression in the South China Sea. An expert in Philippines national security explains why expanding the current agreement with the U.S. makes sense for the Philippines. The asymmetry between the Philippines and the other Southeast Asian claimants vis-a-vis China is very clear. So without an external force to balance, you know, the disparity would really make the Philippines and other countries in the region concerned.

21:57 and suspicious about Chinese activities in the South China Sea and also in the Taiwan Strait. Gregory Poling, a Southeast Asia expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, explains why this latest move fits into Washington's overall Indo-Pacific strategy. The greatest benefit the U.S. has is a robust alliance network. And the Philippines, being the oldest ally in the region, is the one that in a sense has been left behind. So modernizing that alliance networking it more with the Japanese and the Australian alliances fits perfectly into this US overall strategy of leaning more heavily on its allies and making those alliances more equal. Okay, headline from Politico last July, July 5th, 2022. US military's newest weapon against China, hot air.

22:53 The Pentagon is quietly transitioning high-altitude balloon projects to the military services. The high-altitude inflatables, flying at between 60 and 90 thousand feet, will be added to the Pentagon's extensive surveillance network and could eventually be used to track hypersonic weapons. Yeah. I mean this is great. High or very high altitude platforms have a lot of benefit for their endurance on station, maneuverability, also flexibility for multiple payloads. That's the Senior Fellow for International Security Program and Missile Defense Project Director for the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

23:30 Over the past two years, the Pentagon has spent about $3.8 million on balloon projects. That's nothing. Guys, up that. Put a B for that M. Plans to spend $27.1 million in fiscal year 2023. Oh, that's this year. To continue work on multiple efforts. So who's floating over who? Well then it gets worse and another reason that Blinken probably is not showing up is because he's the one starting to make, you know, we say, oh you know these Russians are threatening nuclear war and if you listen to them talk they're not really doing that. No. But Blinken is. Blinken. Listen to these clips. This is nukes who South Korea US NHK.

24:17 Blinken sat down with Park in Washington on Friday. The diplomats later announced they had agreed to strengthen the country's defense capabilities and maintain so-called extended deterrence. The term refers to the US's commitment to use nuclear weapons to protect its allies. Oh, Blinken? Blinken said that? Yeah. Do we have audio of him saying that? Well, yeah. You want to hear him say it? Let's listen to this clip. This will be Nukes Blinkin 2. We reaffirmed our commitment to improving our allied defense against common threats.

24:51 as well as our commitment to defending the Republic of Korea using the full range of US capabilities, including nuclear, conventional and missile defense capabilities. We are committed to strengthening extended deterrence while maintaining a robust combined defense posture. Any provocations by North Korea will be met with a firm and united response. Oh man. You know, so this is so useful, something like this, because what do we no longer hear? Hunter Biden's laptop. Joe Biden's documents. The Memphis jump out team. Black on black killing with a white guy who was the ringleader. All of that's off. That's wiped off. The white non-binary. The white non-binary ringleader of the whole thing.

25:40 Stop him! I'm telling you man, this is... Well, it just gets... I have one last clip in this series. Okay. And this is from Stoltenberg. Yes! Talking about promoting the army and loading up the jet. That's like rearming these old war mongering countries. So he's all in on loading up Japan. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Wednesday applauded Japan's plan to double its defense spending, saying it reflected the country's resolve for greater security involvement in a changing world. Prime Minister Fumio Kishida's government approved a new security strategy last year that includes an increase in defense spending to 2% of GDP or 73 billion US dollars by 2027. Now isn't this exactly what happens every time- You say 2027, did you hear that? Yeah, of course! 2027.

26:31 That's when World War III is supposed to break out. And isn't it always the case that when there's financial turmoil, World War I, World War II, all the A-holes, the military-industrial complex goes at it, goes to war. We, of course, as Americans, are easily riled up with You know, we're gonna pop your balloon bitch. I mean that's literally what this is That's literally who we are with the biggest a-holes on the planet with this stuff But we are Americans we like that kind of thing and it plays into it so and the news just like oh

27:10 Like oh we can we know how to do this one. This is easy I mean I even for the for starting the show I even tweeted out a balloon joke I mean the memes are everywhere because we feel superior as Americans because we are good at memeing we're good at making jokes We're good at and let's scoffing and laughing but in the middle good at blowing stuff up very good at that That's why we bring F-22 to pop your balloon. F-22? Think about it. I mean it would have been funnier if it was a warthog, you know. That would have been cool. No, no, can't do that. We can't bloat it up. Gosh, but the military-industrial complex has us by the balls, by the balls people, squeezing them.

27:59 Just like oh no, no we need more war stuff and I think and I can demonstrate this with a few clips I think what's happening is they're seeing that the Ukraine thing is ending. This is over People are not digging it especially in Europe. Well, first we'll start with US, of course, what are we gonna do? Overseas now to the war in Ukraine, another massive USAID package will soon be on its way. 2.2 billion dollars in assistance includes long-range missiles for the high-march launchers the Ukrainians already have. With fierce battles raging in the east for Ukraine, the aid simply cannot arrive soon enough. All right, now let's listen. This actually plays into what

28:43 Blinken was saying... Which means he'll start nukes. How does, yes, he never says nukes the way Blinken just did, you heard it. No, no, I know. He never says it. He'll say something like, well we're gonna do even more, we're gonna send more troops and then nukes! Yeah. That would be the interpretation of David Muir. Oh, good catch, it's David Muir, ABC. Won't be limited to fighting with tanks. And it's not like David Muir wrote that line. Russian missiles, meanwhile, targeting apartment buildings overnight in the eastern city of Kramatorsk, killing at least three civilians, wounding 20 others. President Zelensky thinks Russia...

29:30 He's the editor-in-chief of his own show. He didn't write the line, of course not, but he is totally responsible for that line. Yes. It's his job. Okay, so now things are so bad, and I have two clips to prove that people really aren't all that into it in Europe. Here is, actually one, so here's the former Defense Minister of the UK, Sir Gerald Howarth, and he says, you know, we got to step it up over there. Just checking with you there, Sir Gerald, are you suggesting boots on the ground?

30:09 She said boots on the ground, she's British so it was not easy to understand, even for me. Just checking with you there, Sir Giles, are you suggesting boots on the ground? I think that is something we now have to consider, okay? Yes, I do. We have to consider that! Yes, it's something we have to consider, Kay. Consider, Kay. Yes, I do. I feel that certainly if you were to put a NATO force in there, that would be NATO versus Russia. But Russia is the guilty party here. Russia has invaded another sovereign state. We have declared, everybody in the West has declared that Ukraine has got to win and we're doing a tremendous amount. Britain led the way under Boris Johnson in leading the support for Ukraine. But I do think we have to think very hard where this is going because at the moment what it's looking like

30:59 is a stalemate with... Now, caller, could you turn down your radio, please? Russia just flattening whole parts of that sovereign country like they did in Aleppo. They're a brutal regime. They lie through their teeth. And the West has got to decide that if it is going to support Ukraine, and Ukraine does have to win because if Ukraine does not win, where will Putin go next? We have to decide exactly how we're going to do this and I think just edging slowly a bit more here, a bit more there is not the answer. Oh my god, that's the worst clip ever. That guy had his radio going? Why, this is the BBC, why don't they send somebody over there? Even when we do remotes we have somebody that can go over there and help. I know.

31:42 So the guy over there with a microphone. Well, this is a Hail Mary because they can't get anyone to really say anything nasty like that I'm just looking at some of the headlines Britain's ammo would last a full day against Russia former general All their ammo all their ammo would be one day of fighting and Germany Well Germany... What if you only took one shot when you saw the whites of their eyes? Germany is rebelling. The Germans are not... the Germans have a history. The Germans have a history with all kinds of things and they have agreements like social contracts like you know maybe we shouldn't be dicks anymore.

32:24 And the people are coming out and they're protesting. This is Al Jazeera. This is in Berlin, rallying against sending battle tanks to Ukraine. We were the ones who fought two world wars, which we basically caused. And they want to drag us into this war? I totally do not understand. Of course it is possible that Russia will attack a NATO country. And then there would be a third world war. And I'm really against all this, because we live in fear. An Ipsos poll published this week shows support for sending heavy weapons like LaPo2 tanks is down to 48% compared to 55 a few months ago. Three quarters of those polled say they don't want Germany to be militarily involved.

33:09 Pacifism became deeply rooted in Germany after World War II in the mid 1940s. The generations who grew up since then are familiar with the slogan no more war. For them, sending heavy weapons to an active war zone is seen as a huge break with the past and the wrong strategy. That is why the country's foreign minister caused quite a shock last week. fighting a war against Russia and not against each other. The statement is fatal and it is wrong. Because of our history, a German foreign minister can never say such a thing. Our constitution says Germany can never again go to war. Ah, in the constitution! Franz Alt wrote books about peace with former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and the Dalai Lama.

33:57 He took part in large peace rallies in the 1980s against nuclear arms. And like many Germans, believed that his country would never be involved in a military conflict again. But the war in Ukraine was a large dilemma for the pacifist. I have always said no weapons. But if a neighbor like Ukraine is so aggressively attacked like Putin has done, and my neighbor asks for help, even with weapons, I can't close my ears. But as a pacifist, I also say stop this war. We need to negotiate also with Putin. I call it Realpacifismus or realistic pacifism. He's not the only one conflicted. The war has polarized opinion between those calling for peace and those who want more weapons for Ukraine. It shows how Germany struggles with both its dark past and the dark reality at its doorstep. There is no

34:54 motivation anymore in Europe. The EU is done, the people are done, they don't want it, they don't like it, they're also sick and tired of all of the refugees. They're sick and tired of it, you know, because it's not just the Ukrainians, I mean it was, this has been going on for 20 years. The Ukrainians are like the third or fourth wave. Yeah, exactly, so they're sick of it. And a negotiation is coming and it's going to end and Queen Ursula blew the lid off of it and As she was on stage with Volodymyr Volonsky, the penis piano playing actor. Sorry if you're all in on it. People get so mad when we say this is bullshit.

35:37 They get so mad. We've lost a lot of our audience. A lot of people. Yes. Because we're not warmongers on this show. And we're not psyoped into believing that Russia wants to kill us. We could be, but it's not anything we've taught yet. We don't know who psyoped us, but it's not this one. Who's ever psyoping us? They're good. They're good. We'll get to it. Don't worry. So we can stop this as we go along. Just a couple minutes. But this is Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union Commission Starfleet Command with Volodymyr next to her on stage just earlier this week. And indeed reconstruction is the big overarching topic. Reconstruction? We're already on to reconstruction. It's the overarching topic. It's the overarching topic. We are in this fight together.

36:28 And we will rebuild this beautiful country together. All right, now remember Volodymyr was calling for everyone to come and invest, you know, BlackRock is already investing, he said it himself, Goldman Sachs is already investing, come over to Ukraine, you gotta invest in Ukraine. We're gonna pull it all together people, we've got a great, John, we could have come up with this strategy. Listen to this. And here let me briefly focus reconstruction starts now with fast recovery. It starts now! Not yesterday! Now! So we work now together on making it available, on making available 1 billion euros for the start of the fast recovery. Fast recovery? Have you heard anything about this fast recovery business?

37:14 I haven't heard any of this. We can start right away with that fast recovery and with these 1 billion, but of course more is to be added to that. Of course, of course people of Europe, don't worry, more is to be added to that. More of your money going for the reconstruction, fast recovery, starting now. The big topic as I said, the overarching topic is reconstruction and here the world is mobilizing. The G7 donors coordination platform is now in place. The G7 what was that coordination? What did D G7 donors coordination something platform topic as I said the overarching topic is reconstruction and here the world is mobilizing The G7 donors coordination platform G7 donors coordination platform. What is that?

38:06 Wow. Sounds like theft. Is now in place? It is theft. The platform will help coordinate the international assistance and will support your reform agenda. Then there is an engine, a motor that is the secretariat. An engine? Oh, they've got an engine. The engine, the secretariat. I think that's her. It will support your reform agenda. Then there is an engine, a motor that is the secretariat that is led by representatives of your government and the Commission and that secretariat is present here both in Kiev and in Brussels. Ah, see they're gonna coordinate so this is this is that this is it's gonna happen this war is ending.

38:50 G7 countries and beyond as well as international financial institutions Goldman Sachs, BlackRock are now preparing to send people to second its secondment by experts to the Secretariat so that we are now pooling the efforts to make economic recovery and reconstruction a success. My second message today is that we are making Putin pay. Ah, we're gonna make him pay! How's Putin gonna pay? I guess it's like Mexico's gonna pay for our wall. Now remember, when we turned off Swift for them, we have 600 billion dollars. We're just gonna take that. Guarantee you, any money that was... They're not gonna get away with it. You can't get what you just described, and I thought it was 300. No, I think it's 600.

39:45 Okay, well whether it's three or six it doesn't matter that's too much money to steal. You know what don't worry about it The people of Europe will pay okay. Let's just put it that way the people of Europe will pay But it's a big investment opportunity. This is no different than the economic hitman. We've had the jackals now now now we got to send in the KKR and what's the other one with the B the big reconstruction companies I don't know. Bechtel? Yeah, Bechtel, exactly. For his atrocious work. Before Russia started this war, we were very vocal about the severe economic costs we will impose on Russia if it invades Ukraine. And today Russia is paying a heavy price as our sanctions are eroding its economy, throwing it back by a generation.

40:42 The price cap on crude oil already costs Russia around 160 million euros a day and we will keep on turning up the pressure further. We will introduce with our G7 partners an additional price cap on Russian petroleum products And by the 24th of February, exactly one year since the invasion started, we aim to have the 10th package of sanctions in place. That's the last of the money people! Russia will also have to pay for the destruction it caused and will have to contribute to the reconstruction of Ukraine. Therefore we are exploring with our partners how to use Russia's public assets

41:30 to the benefit of Ukraine. And public assets to the benefit of Ukraine. What could those public assets be? Could only be the money that they have, that they took, that they froze. But that's not a public asset. Well, it is now. To contribute to the reconstruction of Ukraine. Therefore, we are exploring with our partners how to use Russia's public assets to the benefit of Ukraine. Now who are their partners? Are banks, they're investment firms. So somehow they've got money, they've got a lock on something and they're going to present it and bring it to the table. And Russia must be held accountable in courts for its odious crimes. In court, oh yes. Can you feel the hay coming? Can you feel? Putin will be

42:27 will be indicted and he will be convicted without him being there. That's how that court works. Prosecutors from Ukraine and the European Union are already working together. We are collecting evidence and as a first step I'm pleased to announce that an international center for the prosecution of the crime of aggression in Ukraine will be set up in The Hague. Doesn't she mean prosecution? What did she say? Persecution. Oh fantastic, great catch. Oh goodness. To announce that an international center for the persecution of the... Is it persecution? It's hard to hear. Yeah she may have said but it sounds like persecution to me. I mean if you listen to this whole thing it's persecution. Correct. That an international center for the persecution of the crime of aggression in Ukraine will be set up in The Hague.

43:31 This center will coordinate the collection of evidence. It will be embedded in... It's going to be just like that Malaysian airliner that Russia blew out of the sky. The joint investigation team which is supported by our agency. That's it! They even call it the same, the joint investigation team. That's the same team that they had which by the way is Bellingcat if you really want to know. Remember DGIT, the Joint Investigation Team? They're the ones that convicted Russia of blowing the Malaysian airline, mainly Dutch, who were on it, out of the sky, even though there's sufficient evidence that it was in fact Ukraine. It's all the same play! ...to announce that an international center for the prosecution of the crime of aggression... Who needs to be creative? Everyone's so creative! ...in Ukraine will be set up in The Hague

44:23 This center will coordinate the collection of evidence. It will be embedded in the joint investigation team, which is supported by our agency Eurojust. Eurojust? What's that? Eurojust. So we will be ready to launch work very rapidly with Eurojust, with Ukraine, with the partners of our joint investigation team, as well as with the Netherlands. The perpetrator must be held accountable. Putin. It's exactly the same team. Putin. No, but it's exactly the same thing. Eurojust, European Union Agency for Criminal Justice Cooperation.

45:07 Oh, they got a very, very intricate website. So this is ending justice. Sounds like something from 1984. Who we are. Let's see. Let's see. Eurojust. Eurojust, the European Union Agency for Criminal Justice Cooperation, is a unique hub based in The Hague, the Netherlands, where national judicial authorities work closely together to fight serious organized cross-border crime. Well, only fitting that it's in the crime capital of Europe. Yep. The role of your money is ironic. It's very that is the definition of ironic Let's see what they oh goodness. This is this is a huge. This is where this is where all the lawyers who can't get a regular job Go just Jits funding. Let's see

45:53 as part of its efforts to facilitate the use of joint investigation teams. They provide financial support, several common areas of expenditure, travel and accommodation. Oh yeah, they're living it up. Interpretation and translation, transportation costs for transferring items like hookers, specialist expertise costs. Oh there it is, you can get paid for testifying. Yeah, these are the people who did that. It's the same people who did the Malaysian airline thing, which was all bellingcat, which was all bullcrap. And the Dutch are still pissed about that. They've never really closed the book on it. Which is exactly what will happen with this. They'll never close the book on it.

46:44 No, but it's Putin's fault. But it's ending and now this is the transition. This is the transition to China. Yeah, you might be right. This is just she's telegraphing her blows. Well, that's all she does. But yeah, you could probably bank on this. So but how is it gonna end? I mean maybe that's another reason Blinken stayed home. They're talking about how to do this deal here. They'll just stop, they'll just stop the reporting of Ukraine. They'll just stop. Volodymyr Zelensky is about to exit stage left. Or he'll be, they're so brazen, he'll just start talking, the reconstruction is underway, victory.

47:34 We got them ruskies. Well that's an interesting situation that we're in right now because how exactly is this going to play out in so far as the script's concerned? John, we get jacked over a freaking balloon. You can convince the American public of anything. There's a balloon! It's spying on us! And the Europeans have no voice. Most of their media is controlled by public broadcasters who are all in on everything. We'll just repeat whatever they're supposed to. They're worse than our media. Certainly in the Netherlands. No, that's fine.

48:12 So meanwhile, we start encircling China, we start messing with them, and we start re-arming Japan with our marines, which is insane. We're going to go stand 300 miles off of Taiwan. Hey! Hey, Xi Jinping! And maybe, you know, maybe it's all one big joke. Maybe Xi Jinping is like, this will be fun. All right, let's do that, boys. Let's go shoot some billion-dollar stuff at each other. Meanwhile further enslave our people. I don't know man. Well. Here's the guy I have to Ukraine clips This is probably the end of it nothing about these these are both NHK mm-hmm And these are these these rockets are sending over there and by the way

49:00 Now, play this, Ukraine bomb rockets. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has welcomed the Biden administration's decision to send his country long-range rockets. But a high-level Russian official has responded by suggesting that his country could respond with nuclear weapons. The rockets are known as ground-launched small-diameter bombs. They're part of an eight package that US President Joe Biden's administration announced on Friday. The rockets have a range of around 150 kilometers, almost double the range of the rockets provided earlier. The weapons are believed to be capable of reaching the southern Ukrainian region of Crimea, which Russia unilaterally annexed in 2014.

49:42 Zelensky wrote on social media, the more long-range our weapons are and the more mobile our troops are, the sooner Russia's brutal aggression will end. Oh really? Oh really? And by the way, that rocket, that's a rocket with a bomb on it. I mean it's just a rocket. I don't know why they have all these different designators for it. It comes in a rocket launcher with it has I think six or eight. rockets and you know, they're kind of lifts up as a big square thing and it shoots the rockets. 150 miles, that's like shooting a rocket from San Francisco and hitting the Capitol building in Sacramento. That's a long way, 150 kilometers. That is not

50:29 I don't know why you'd give something like that to anybody, but here's part two of this clip. Former Russian president and current deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council Dmitry Medvedev responded in a written interview. Medvedev has said that Russia could use all kinds of weapons in accordance with its doctrinal documents under the basic principles of nuclear deterrence. So the basic principles of nuclear deterrence don't mean using a nuke. Well, no, of course not. Could you turn down your speakers just a hair? I'm having trouble with the slapback. Yeah, just a little bit. Producer John from Amsterdam alerted me to, alerted us really, to the fact that there's another little point here as to why this is all winding down. So we heard our CIA chief

51:22 Talking about 2027 war with China listen to me people Where was our CIA chief just two weeks ago in Ukraine? What was he doing? Well, that's right. Yeah, what was he doing there? So what yeah, and what was he doing there our producer? Why would we be informed that he was there our? Producer John deconstructed. I think he's I think it's a good one and that Zelensky is not behind the overhaul of the corruption in the government. No, no. No. It's us. We are kicking out all the a-holes. Everyone had a good ride, everybody. Get the hell out. It's coming to an end. The money train's gonna end. Now the money train goes to our companies. The reconstruction is coming.

52:08 And I think that's genius. The timing makes total sense. No, I agree with that, but why does it have to be the CIA director? Well, who else has helicopters? Who else has any power? Who else has helicopters crash, you know, with people, with top government officials in? Who else does that? We do that. The CIA does that. Oh, I'm so embarrassed by this. It's truly, it's embarrassing. And it's so easy to see if once you set your mind to it, it's like, oh, okay. But you know, we only do 800 billion a year in military industrial complex. We need to have a lot more than that. We need to jack it up. China, Taiwan, Japan. The question is how are they going to keep it

53:00 top of mind. You know, Ukraine was, well, you know, Ukraine, I mean, the Beatles sang about Ukraine, you know, it's right next to everybody, it's in Europe. We got Queen Ursula telling us so. So how do you engage the American public in this scam? A balloon. A lollipop in a balloon. That's what's going on. Once the thing shuts down, you don't need the American public involved at all. We just start spending money rebuilding and getting paid for it. The money comes to it across the Atlantic. I'm talking about China. No one gives a crap about China. It's far away.

53:36 We don't understand China. It's like whatever. Yeah, the balloon is a start. Yeah. But I think even the public has got to be, even though they're jacked up about it, getting blown out of the sky by an F-22 launching a rocket. What red-blooded America male didn't like pop your sister's balloon? That's what this was. Oh yeah, man, I popped the balloon. You know, it's a horrible thing to do. But that's, unfortunately, that's kind of our culture. We just like that. Well, we'll see how they're going to distract. I mean, after the balloon, what? Well, we have to get rid of Biden. Maybe we can get rid of Joe. Maybe we can distract with that a little bit. You know, we do have elections coming up.

54:34 I, you know, 2024 is when they'll start saber rattling. It'll be the election year. You know, we got to have all that going on. It's tiring. It's it's it's tough to be a podcaster. It's not tiring either. I'm so pooped. You have no idea how much work it took me to find that clip from Al Jazeera. Meanwhile, I had to listen to a news broadcast. Oh, meanwhile, no idea how miserable I am. We apologize to Canada for killing your favorite groundhog. And finally an improvised Groundhog Day. It was in Quebec, the crowd was getting ready for Fred the Groundhog and then they even had a big mascot dancing on stage but then a problem. They were told that poor Fred had just passed away so they replaced Fred with a child of the crowd holding a stuffed Fred doll and the party continued. Bad news too is six more weeks of winter.

55:36 Yep, well now let's get into my since you brought this in I wrote about this in the newsletter And it turns out that Canada's got a bunch of these little animals all across the country yes with including a lobster Lobster is crazy who knew about the lobster And it turns out that after the all said and done half of the groundhogs that is gonna be an extended winner and half of them didn't and that half of that said no included The worst of all these groundhogs, which is Oki from Okanagan up in Vancouver. Oki is actually a hand puppet. Oki is a puppet! It's a hand puppet and they say that they have to have a hand puppet in BC because this is really kind of Canadian logic. Because on Groundhog Day, February 2nd, which traces back to England, there's a good article on CNN about it.

56:32 They have to have a hand puppet because in BC, the groundhogs actually don't come out of hibernation until March. And my thinking is, well, why don't you turn that into the groundhog day for BC? Why do you have to phony baloney it up with February 2nd arbitrarily, which is what we use in the United States, and then have a hand puppet, a little bitty dorky looking thing. Okay, hold on a second. We are actually discussing another psy-op. The whole idea of everyone looking at a ground, at a rodent to predict the weather is as silly as climate change itself. Well I think it proves that these climatologists should be thinking twice about the business they're in. Anyway, yeah it could be it could be an op. But it's an op that's been going on forever so.

57:24 Well do you want to... It is cute, it's quaint, it's fun. Let's do a little... You're Debbie Downer. No, let's do a little bit of climate change news. We have a new term, never heard of it before. Have you ever heard of frost quakes? I know, you know, I heard about it over the news this last news cycle. I did hear about it, but before? No. The extreme temperatures could cause frost quakes, harmless mini earthquakes that can trigger loud booms when underground ice expands, adding pressure to soil and bedrock. So it's not

58:04 What'd she say? It's harmless? The extreme temperatures cause frost quakes, harmless mini earthquakes. Harmless yet they destroy things under the earth. Okay, ABC maybe. These frost quakes are more common the more cold the cold front is. And this front is going to be about a 50 degree difference from behind it to ahead of it. So you can see that underground water freezing and rapidly expanding resulting in the cracking of the nearby ground and rocks. If the crack reaches the surface, you hear that loud boom. But notice this, if you have snow on the ground, you probably won't hear any frost quakes because the snow acts as an insulating mechanism. Now is this the loud boom I heard just before the previous show? I mean, or is this, or are they blowing up? We didn't have frost quakes in Texas. We, well we had frost. We had, which by the way, it used to be called global warming.

58:59 I'm sorry, climate change, i.e. global warming caused this to happen. In New Hampshire, Mount Washington feeling wind chills of 108 degrees below zero, the coldest ever recorded in the U.S. So really just that cold and it does temperatures for us, but we'll sit in less than one minute. Portland, Maine, reaching a wind chill of minus 45 degrees Friday night, shattering its all time record. 108 below zero. Yeah, even Al Jazeera and I have a clip from Al Jazeera cold weather which is not even distributed in the United States is commenting on this again kind of putting the kibosh on global warming. Scenes captured from a live camera show the coldest temperature ever recorded in the continental United States.

59:50 At least it's refreshing from hottest year on record! The Arctic glass has brought pretty cold zero temperatures to large parts of the northeastern United States and Canada temperatures across the region plunging to dangerously low levels in Boston, Massachusetts where it hit minus 33 with wind chill the biting wind made the cold at times downright painful if you're really into

1:00:31 masochism and whatever Yeah, it's actually great. Otherwise people say what the hell am I doing here? Wait, wait, who is this guy? Man on the street in Boston just a regular old dude What am I doing? He sounds like us painful if you're really into masochism and whatever. Yeah, it's actually great. Otherwise people say, what the hell am I doing here? People are used to cold weather here in Boston this time of year, but this is unusual. The last time it got this cold in Boston was 1957.

1:01:12 In parts of Maine, it was so cold there were frost quakes, small earthquakes caused by sudden cracks in frozen soil. Elsewhere, the brutal cold complicated the emergency response to a massive fire after train derailment overnight in Ohio, freezing the water being pumped to firefighters. Icy roads have made for hazardous driving in some states, like here in Oklahoma. But back in Boston, temperatures began to creep up slightly in the afternoon, reaching negative 12. I mean, it...

1:01:51 12 Celsius. Yeah, but by the way, where are all the videos you're supposed to see on tick-tock and Instagram and all the rest of it where you take the cup of hot water go outside in this weather and you throw it into the air and it freezes and it freezes on this spot and makes a big kind of a cloud of ice crystals where I haven't seen any of those but they're showing all these videos of this and Maybe it's too cold to go outside. I don't know the thing is that I have not even seen well of course we had balloon, but no one even maybe part of that is this no one even made an effort to say, oh this is because of global warming, because that's typically what we hear. Well because of global warming it's extremely cold. I mean haven't we heard that for a decade now? Yes, exactly. But now we have new records, like this is getting a little bit embarrassing. And of course we know from the 70s from Leonard Nimoy, Dr. Spock, that the ice age is coming. Yeah and this actually lines up more with that theory than it does with global warming, CO2 theory.

1:02:55 Now there's a new campaign that a couple of our producers have flagged, the Science Moms. Have you heard of the Science Moms? They're advertising, the Science Moms. Science what? Moms? Science Moms? M-O-M-S, moms, the moms, the mothers. Science Moms? Yes, Science Moms, they are climate scientists who are also moms. And this, oh yeah, the Science Moms. Good one. You can find it, I think it's sciencemoms.com. I'm sure I could. Is it science? I was gonna say Science Dads, so some balance here. Well, no. How about the science non-binaries? Science Moms. I want that science non-heteronormatives. Which by the way, their logo is SM, which is just so wrong. S, big, or look at sciencemoms.com.

1:03:41 So I'm gonna play their one of their commercials in a moment, but if you click on who we are. We are a group of nonpartisan climate scientists and mothers working to give our children the planet they deserve. Now they have a new statistic here which I'm a little confused by. What percentage of scientists all agree that global warming climate change is happening and that it's man-made? What percentage? Well the percentage that they keep throwing out is 97 when it's not when we've debunked that a million times and so is everyone else but it keeps cropping up. Well the science moms have a new number here is and this is an animated ad. If an entire neighborhood's worth of doctors told you your mole was cancerous would you keep it? I'm not cancerous.

1:04:30 If an entire town's worth of mechanics said you need a new brace, would you be like, meh I'm good? If an entire planet's worth of scientists agreed that climate change is real, would you ignore them? 99% of scientists agree. Climate change is here, it's man-made, and we're running out of time to fix it. Protect your kid's future at ScienceMoms.com. 99%! They've upped it to 99%! Of all planet, everyone in the planet! All people, everyone agrees! I mean if everyone said your brakes are no good, would you just keep driving without, with your brake? No, yes of course! This is, and so I looked at this. So the premise is a blatant lie. It's worse, it's worse. The premise of science mobs is a scientific lie. Correct.

1:05:23 And then we begin there and then we move on. So Science Moms is a project from the Potential Energy Coalition, a 501c3 nonprofit, which in 2021 somehow raised $8 million. They literally are on Madison Avenue because this is run by the Lippincott Agency, a huge marketing firm who are just taking money from clients and churning out this crap. Yeah, those rents are high there in Madison Avenue. Very high. Very high. Uhhhhhhhm.

1:06:01 No, then I have... There's no conclusion to be drawn. No, the only thing I could do is just... The Wall Street Journal had a little video. I have 35 seconds of it. You know, we need to save our climate and what is the way to do it is, of course, not by fake meat. No, no. We've moved past that. Lab-grown meat. You know, where you take the cell culture and you grow the chicken meat in a vat, which is of course going to be even more nutritious and probably taste better and just feel good on your tongue. So Wall Street Journal took whatever money they had to to create this from their tech team. I'm Zoe Thomas for The Wall Street Journal. This is a special episode of Tech News Briefing, part of our four-part series on climate tech.

1:06:54 It's no secret the production of food, especially meat, releases a lot of carbon into the atmosphere. In fact, more than a third of global greenhouse gas emissions caused by human activity are directly related to our food supply chain, according to the United Nations. Lab-grown meat or cultivated meat could reduce that by growing the animal cells without growing the whole animal. Ah, grow the cells, not the animal. That makes sense. Totally. You will eat ze bugs.

1:07:32 That's always the backup plan. I like it eats a bugs eats a bug Maybe we should talk about chicken now for a second, you know at some point wait in some point Don't you think that the vegans that actually you know who are against eating? Well again living things. Yeah, isn't it even it's just the cells. Isn't that a living thing? I think you can call this vegan vegan chicken vegan vegan pork and Because it's not the animal. You didn't actually kill the animal. I think vegans will be all in on this. We have to kill them somehow.

1:08:09 So to me, that makes... I think there's an ethical issue here. Yeah? Uh-huh. Amongst the vegans. Really? It's not amongst me. I don't care. I'm not gonna eat that crap. Really? Yeah. Killing a chicken and then eating it to die anyway, short-lived animal. Or eating a chicken egg, which seems to be something that's abhorrent to the vegans, which makes no sense to me. The eggs, you know? There's a good example. The egg is just an embryo. It's just a one-celled Gaba goo, what is wrong with you and they won't eat those either now if they won't eat those Why would they eat a grown chicken meat? Well, I don't know. I just have a feeling that they can they can convince people I mean we can convince people 99% of all scientists science moms a percent are in on it. Let's talk about this egg thing I'm sure I'm sure you've seen the stories that they've done something to the feed the chickens aren't laying eggs and

1:09:07 Tell me yeah, we saw that we talked about on the last show and it's now we're getting some pushback on that from people that have chickens and they says bullcrap well yes and no Some people are saying, okay here's producer Jason. A long time listener producer here. At first I thought the chicken feed thing was just another bullshit conspiracy theory, but just for kicks, I ditched the corporate farm store feed, picked up some locally sourced organic small batch artisanal feed. After six months of no eggs, the chicken started laying again the same day. Not sure what's going on, but there's something wrong with the feed. Okay, I think taking anything that is organic locally sourced small batch and artisanal will be better than the store-bought stuff. What am I hearing? I hear something. Do I hear something in the background? I thought I heard something in the background. I'm telling you, I hear something weird. Anyway, no one else hears it. Then I got this note from Bill and Bill says,

1:10:15 I've been homesteading for a couple years now. I have a little insight on the latest conspiracy about the laying hens. One, egg production goes way down in the winter months. Yeah, it does. Everyone knows that. Well, no, not everyone knows that. Of course not. Winter conditions are exactly ideal for eggs or hatching chicks as you aren't exactly ideal for eggs or hatching chicks. You can imagine both eggs and chicks need a near constant 100 degrees to survive from when the egg starts to develop. And this is all in the show notes is very long there are a heck of a lot of inexperienced chicken people new to the game in the past couple years since the pandemic The amount of new people to the game has skyrocketed now this okay, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this this is this is why we are the best podcast in the universe this is well We should have both identified this as a problem immediately also

1:11:06 Remember, he says, first year hens produce more eggs over winter. It isn't until the second year that you really notice it. People are starting to see egg production go up after they switch to the chicken's diet. There's a couple of things going on here I think. First, when you completely switch up their diet, you're shocking their system. This could possibly be triggering some egg production. More importantly, what's really happening, the daylight hours are coming back. Daylight is key factor. People switching diets on their hands over the last couple of weeks are of course going to see more egg production because as the light comes, so do eggs. Third, Where are people getting their chickens believe it or not face bag and Craigslist? These are not the best chicken people I believe that's true a lot of new chicken people, which is a category. I think that's is that a Is that a sexual orientation is that a gender people chicken people new chicken people is a gender? Oh

1:12:05 I only have a few birds, so when we have more chickens than I like, we have about 30 laying hens at the moment. We're getting maybe two or three eggs a day over the winter until my first year hens hit egg-laying age. Then production picks up. And now as the daylight's coming back, so are the eggs. Eight to ten. And by spring, 24 to 30 eggs a day. It also makes a difference if there's a rooster. Oh, he didn't mention that, but I would totally believe that. Now Dame Jamie, who's an actual lab scientist of animals... She does identify that there is something going on with animals in general not chickens Rabbits, he said my rabbits are not reproducing. My chickens are not laying She also points out that human male sperm counts are low I mean there could definitely be something you know sprayed or I mean ultimately it's all turning the frogs gay So there's there's all kinds of stuff going on. You know, the environment is not healthy at all at all and

1:13:08 But this, I think, will lead to something possibly that I think will happen. And that is mRNA for livestock. They're going to come up with some bullcrap story about your chickens, and that would be the easiest one. We have an mRNA vaccine for chickens. So if as long as you vaccinate your chickens everything will be fine. And of course once you put mRNA into the chickens it's gonna get into the people. I think they're really, they are really planning on doing this. Well most home chicken people don't inoculate their chickens for anything and they don't even let people know they have a big flock because then they can get cold.

1:13:55 And it's according to Mimi too many eggs calm. I might point the website out according to Mimi the the bird flu situation when it comes to home flocks is minor and so is the Salmonella things almost non-existent with a home flock So you need your eggs raw So of course, I'm not talking about the home chickens. I'm talking about the big big egg The ovum industrial complex. Yeah, let me write that one down. The ovum industrial complex. So this morning...

1:14:36 I boiled three eggs. I had two eggs from H-E-B and one egg was from one of our producers who dropped by town when they were in Fredericksburg with their own homestead chickens. And so I had three boiled eggs, roughly the same size. The H-E-B eggs totally conform exactly what you'd expect. Now the homestead egg, the yolk is on the side so you boil it, the yolk is... It's not even. And when you experience this, a real chicken egg from an egg that laid it in someone's loved... And someone has kids who get all the eggs, you know, because you don't want to do that yourself. Versus the H-E-B supermarket egg. I just got freaked out. I'm like, oh my god, this supermarket, how do they make it? Every single yolk is right in the middle. It's never on the side or askew or they're all the same size. That just makes you wonder.

1:15:29 Well, I know how to get them all the same size that run through a big sorter and they put the ones in one thing that then they put the extra large someplace else and if you're lucky you can buy a jumbo egg even though according to Mimi, yeah, the chickens that laid jumbo eggs are exterminated after a couple of rounds. They're sold on Craigslist, of course. So now I'd like to move from the Ovenman Industrial Complex to Big Pharma as there's a lot going on because as you know, as you know, the COVID vaccinations were so successful.

1:16:06 So, so successful that we're going to expand them into all kinds of areas. Here's a report from Germany from Deutsche Welle. The international community is marking World Cancer Day. Cancer is among the leading causes of death worldwide. But now, thanks to a cutting-edge COVID vaccine technology. We might, just might be closer to stopping cancer. Germany's BioNTech is launching a trial in the United Kingdom of personalized cancer vaccines. BioNTech, just to remind everybody, they're the ones that came up with the whole shebang. Moderna uses their technology. BioNTech is launching a trial in the United Kingdom of personalized cancer vaccines this autumn.

1:16:44 More on the technology in this upcoming report. During the COVID-19 pandemic, vaccines were rolled out within a year, faster than most experts believed possible. And messenger RNA vaccines were among the first to gain approvals. They work by giving the body's immune system a preview of potentially dangerous invaders. A dose contains many copies of a short stretch of precise genetic information, the messenger RNA. It induces cells to start making proteins that are otherwise only found on a specific pathogen, like the proteins that stud the surface of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

1:17:25 Then when the immune system encounters the virus, it quickly recognizes the invader and wipes it out. Categorically, messenger RNA vaccines have proven to be exceptionally effective. They have proven to be able to protect people against severe and life-threatening disease and consequently saved millions.

1:18:02 millions of lives. I mean, it's just a fact. Just don't even question it, you shit. There are different types of RNA, but all of them are coding molecules, and that code can be rewritten. That's why many drug developers describe RNA as medicinal software. Whoa, there it is. Medicinal software. Vaccines that use this software have a major advantage over other platforms. Their codes can be easily altered to also make other proteins found on other disease-causing microbes, teaching the immune system how to fight them as well. And RNA can encode for proteins found not just in infectious diseases, but also, for instance, in cancers. In addition to messenger RNA, a range of other RNAs play key roles in metabolism and health.

1:18:55 Well there's there's there it is admission medicinal software you need an upgrade it's a platform all the things we've been saying and it's safe and effective. Well if it's medicinal isn't that then it isn't it a a treatment not a vaccine? It's a therapy not a vaccine? I'd say yeah, I think this clip may even mention that this is a... So you're a guy and so in other words if you're in UK and you're on this test you have cancer they're giving you this. Yes. Yeah. It's a therapeutic then? Correct. Yes. Well that's not a vaccine. Did you forget that they changed the definition of vaccine?

1:19:41 I'm not forgetting anything. I'm saying I know what you're I know what you're trying to where you're trying to go, but I'm not buying it And I said it I'm not buying it. No, it will give it be given to you for free You don't have to buy anything. Oh, that's good free free if it's free Of course the government will subsidize this and if it's not that medicinal for 10 minutes. Oh No. They're already dropping the subsidy on the COVID shots. Now they're going to cost hundreds of dollars. Every single child in the world will, at birth, because that's when addiction starts, will be vaccinated with this following mRNA.

1:20:23 vaccine. The fight against fentanyl could be taking a turn thanks to a new vaccine. A team at the University of Houston has been working on this solution to the nation's fentanyl crisis for nearly six years. They say it is similar to the hepatitis B vaccine and stimulates the body to make antibodies against fentanyl. Scientists say those antibodies can block the euphoric high that a person feels from taking that drug. The antibodies bind to fentanyl, prevent it from getting in the brain and then it is exited from the body. The individual then can get back on the wagon to sobriety. And we are told this treatment is intended for drug addicts looking to get clean. Testing was first done on rodents. Human clinical trials are set to begin soon. It's like calling methadone a vaccine. Yeah, exactly.

1:19:41 I'm not forgetting anything. I'm saying I know what you're I know what you're trying to where you're trying to go, but I'm not buying it And I said it I'm not buying it. No, it will give it be given to you for free You don't have to buy anything. Oh, that's good free free if it's free Of course the government will subsidize this and if it's not that medicinal for 10 minutes. Oh No. They're already dropping the subsidy on the COVID shots. Now they're going to cost hundreds of dollars. Every single child in the world will, at birth, because that's when addiction starts, will be vaccinated with this following mRNA.

1:20:23 vaccine. The fight against fentanyl could be taking a turn thanks to a new vaccine. A team at the University of Houston has been working on this solution to the nation's fentanyl crisis for nearly six years. They say it is similar to the hepatitis B vaccine and stimulates the body to make antibodies against fentanyl. Scientists say those antibodies can block the euphoric high that a person feels from taking that drug. The antibodies bind to fentanyl, prevent it from getting in the brain and then it is exited from the body. The individual then can get back on the wagon to sobriety. And we are told this treatment is intended for drug addicts looking to get clean. Testing was first done on rodents. Human clinical trials are set to begin soon. It's like calling methadone a vaccine. Yeah, exactly.

1:21:11 They've gone out, they're out of control. I think it will be administered preemptively. Well yeah, that would be the idea. But here's what's going to happen, especially if some fentanyl addict is going to take the vaccine, or what did I just say? Accept the vaccine into their life, yes. He's going to take the shot and then he's going to take some fentanyl and he's going to say, oh this fentanyl is no good, let me try some more. And he's going to kill himself. No, I don't think you can kill yourself with more fentanyl. If it's not affecting the receptors and stopping your heart and stopping your breathing, then you'll just be like, this is bogus, this is no good. You switch to coke. Don't worry, there's a vaccine for that coming as well.

1:21:59 It's it's it now if you're not we have clips and this go back at least a decade of About you know when you were on the vaccine kick We're talking about adjuvants all the time like maniacs even though we've dropped that Conversation and the clip goes about the vaccine to stop you from smoking remember that well. I don't have that one I do have this one dr. Crystal welcome to our program. Hello 2018 what is the idea behind the vaccine that you're testing I? Well, cocaine is a small molecule and our immune systems don't see it. So to be able to develop a vaccine, we have to trick the immune system. And the way we did that was by taking a cold virus called an adenovirus, one of the causes of the common cold,

1:22:45 And we know that that evokes a great deal of immunity against the virus itself. So we attach cocaine to the cold virus and we ripped it apart so that it wouldn't cause harm. And we're tricking the immune system to thinking that the cocaine was part of the cold virus and so it would develop immunity against it. So that if someone took cocaine, it would not reach the brain and they would not get a high. That's lame! What's the point of having cocaine around if you're gonna do that? Now this is it this these maniacs really need to be found and locked up These people are good. They got something wrong with them

1:23:30 Yeah, so you're gonna screw around with your immune system, which is a very complicated system. We don't even fully understand how it works You're gonna fool around with so it stops and blocks cocaine molecules. It's supposed to be going after bacteria and viruses Which brings me to an email from producer David because you said these people have something wrong with them. Hey Adam I have a little bit of expertise to offer, the insight on the medical school experience now that I'm about halfway through getting my medical degree. Medical school is scary, man. I had an eight year career in construction management before deciding to transition into medicine and I feel like a boomer here.

1:24:16 The even scarier thing is that the monothink really does extend to the faculty, about as much as it was in the very liberal school I attended for undergrad. I've heard endocrinologists tell me that they believe that people can be healthy at any weight. Cardiologists, nephrologists, tried their damnedest to explain why some equations that incorporate race or sex into the calculations are bad and have had entire sessions that could be boiled down to Republicans bad, Democrat good. Look at which states didn't expand Medicare.

1:24:53 The student body is about as whiny as you would expect from early 20-somethings to be. Very woke, very disrespectful regarding any alternative viewpoints, very ageist against older faculty. The majority also really have poor social skills, struggling with the standardized patient interviews that are supposed to teach us how to talk to people. I would be terrified to have most of my classmates be my doctor in the future. None of this is to say that I'm a savant, but I do pride myself on being able to carry on a conversation and talk to another person and I haven't flunked out yet. I believe this. I believe we have a whole... I totally believe it. And you know what? And here's some proof. This is what the big pharma and big medicine is doing.

1:25:39 Michael Dieter has been awaiting a lung transplant at the University of Florida Health Center since December. A dedicated team of doctors and nurses attend to him day and night. But that's not all. Sensors and cameras track Dieter's every move in this smart intensive care unit. From vital signs to facial expressions and everything in between. More than 350 gigabytes of information per patient goes into a central computer where artificial intelligence then processes the data. We can look at the patient and go, they're moving a lot. There's something going on there or their face has a certain grimace to it that they normally don't have. Is it possible that it could tell you before I even know that I'm having problems? Yes, 100%. We will be able to decipher complex features, complex emotions like agitation or hunger. People stop saying 100%. Wait, wait, wait. Complex emotions like education? Is that what she said?

1:26:40 Agitation I think she said agitation. Okay, let's follow up here. Funded by the National Institutes of Health, the high-tech experiment enters its third year. Researchers are still teaching the technology what certain actions like sitting and standing might indicate. The hope that AI will soon be able to provide real-time health care recommendations. But will this new technology replace the need for humans in the hospital altogether? They are very simplistic. We don't even have humans in the hospital who's gonna be sick Models compared to what our brains are doing Technology replaced the need for humans in the hospital altogether nice. They are very simplistic models

1:27:27 models compared to what our brains are doing and I don't think that we should be worried about humans being replaced anytime soon. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what they said. That's what they said. Well, we're being replaced. I want to do this after the break. Oh, really? Well because I have a lot of more stuff. I have a bunch of clips on AI. We're talking about AI. We're teasing it. Okay, good. We're teasing. And I also have a, which you have to download, which I just sent to you, which is an updated Joe Biden poem. Poem? Okay, I got it. A couple of things about Big Pharma. There are moves being made

1:28:13 J&J is undergoing a global overhaul. They're firing people. They're restructuring. Something's up with Johnson & Johnson. Just because they have a distinct possibility of going out of business. Talk about it. How do you know this? Well, they're talc suits. This is on the same level as the John Mansville's asbestos suits. Oh, the talcum powder, you're right. And they have been trying to get out and push it over here and push it over there and then go bankrupt and come back into business. They've been trying all these maneuvers because of these suits. And they've been unsuccessful at trying to get out of it. At trying to minimize it, at least.

1:28:55 And the numbers are outrageous. It's just like the asbestos thing, which did put John, and people remember this company, John Mansville, huge construction operation. They made different things, but they got ruined by asbestos lawsuits. They're gone. They may have restructured, but it's not the same company. Of course, that makes a lot of sense. Well, so there's that. Merck is in trouble. Bloomberg reports that Merck's COVID drug, do we even remember Merck's COVID drug? It was the competitor with Paxlovid. Oh well guess what? It is linked to spreading mutants and mutations of the virus. That's interesting. Whoa goodbye Merck. Just wave goodbye to those guys. Well I don't know, that can't put you out of business. It's not great. No.

1:29:56 And let's see what is the, oh so we have, what is the latest on reasons for strokes? Because you know it's everything except, except... Peanut butter. Jeff, really? It wouldn't surprise me. No, I'm waiting. It wouldn't surprise me. No, we have cracking your neck, your chiropractor can give you a stroke. Pregnancy complications can increase a woman's stroke risk at young age according to the American Heart Association. That is true. A lot of women get what's called mini strokes from having a baby. And here's the latest from Dr. Jen over there at ABC Good Morning America.

1:30:36 Take a look at this big number. More than 20 million Americans age 20 and older have coronary artery disease, the most common form of heart disease. Dr. Jan, there's this misconception that it affects men more than women. I was growing up and I was always taught that it was the number one killer for women, heart disease. That is true, but here's the thing you guys. You guys, stop misgendering people, Dr. Jen. Heart disease. That is true, but here's the thing you guys, no one thinks it will happen to them. So even if they are aware that it is the number one killer of men and women, people think, well not me, but actually we need to all realize that this is potentially life-threatening for all of us. Take a look at the stats for women, particularly in heart disease. Over 44% of women starting at age 20 years of age and up have some form of heart disease, whether it's coronary artery disease, congenital heart disease, valvular heart disease, or

1:31:29 Heart disease is the number one killer of new moms in this country. So when we talk about the maternal mortality epidemic, heart disease tops that list. Women are 6% less likely to receive bystanders. They make a good point there. Let me hear what she says again. Heart disease, valvular heart disease. Heart disease is the number one killer of new moms in this country. So we talk about the maternal mortality epidemic. Maternal mortality epidemic? When did that start? I never heard of this epidemic. But is an epidemic, is that something that... You know what? It's out of control! Consult the book of knowledge! Epidemic.

1:32:11 Can that be anything just anything that's happening over and over again a widespread occurrence of infectious disease? infectious disease I thought is this specifically say that there must be a secondary definition that doesn't include in which let me go to Miriam Webster not what they got those guys change everything Yeah, they changed it to drop of a hat. Affecting or tending to affect a disproportionately large number of individuals within a population, community, or region at the same time. That's their number one definition. So they took out infectious? They don't even have infectious in here anymore. Those guys are real responsive to the woke. Here's the second definition. An outbreak of disease that spreads quickly and affects many individuals at the same time.

1:32:57 They don't even have a virus in here. They just took that away. Epidemic laughter. I guess you could use it as in that way. Oh, please. But then endemic, how is... but then the... when an epidemic is over... Then you then it's endemic, correct? Or am I completely stupid? I don't know, look it up, read it. Epidemic affecting or tending to... No, that's epidemic. Endemic. Endemic. Let's see, endemic. Same dictionary. Belonging or native to a particular people or country. Characteristic of or prevalent in a particular field area or environment. Restricted to a peculiar location or region.

1:33:46 I don't know. You know what? When they start... Do you know that... And there's pandemic too, you might as well look that up. Well, that's a financial definition. There's... No, I was just going to say something about that. There was... Oh yes, violence. If you look at the term violence... Let me see if it's in here. violence and does it does Miriam Webster who's a woke dictionary do they they do they have one of the definitions one two three maybe definition for silence to say silence no but silence is silent outside of the outside of the Miriam Webster dictionary a definition of violence is changing words

1:34:31 Changing changing words or meaning of words falls under violence not according to Merriam-Webster I found this out recently. Let me see what for him. Do you trust another dictionary? It's a funny question Oxford English, I'll trust that okay Oxford of course that you know that thing isn't isn't can't even find Oxford English where you Oxford English here we go violence You know, by the way, people don't know this, but I might as well fill time with it. Go for it. A lot of people don't realize that definitions are all copyrighted. Yes, we have discussed this. Yeah, when you write a definition, you can't just copy from another dictionary. You have to come up with your own and you have to document it. So these dictionary companies have documentation for its usage.

1:35:29 You just can't sit there and grind out the Adam Curry dictionary based on everybody else's stuff. It's copyrighted. So, I mean, how close can you come? Well, I think if we did a dictionary right now and put silence based on silence is violence, which based on a bumper sticker and also maybe somebody holding a sign up, I think that would be a copyrighted definition of violence. It's number six on the list? So we have swift and intense force, rough or injurious physical force, action or treatment, unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power against rights or laws, a violent act or proceeding, rough or immoderate vehemence, and damage through distortion or unwarranted alteration. Example, to do editorial violence to a text. I told you.

1:36:23 That's crazy talk. There you go, that's me! Heart disease tops that list. Women are 6% less likely to receive bystander CPR in an out of hospital cardiac arrest. What? Because bystanders are misogynist? How about that? It's likely to receive bystander CPR in an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest. So again, in terms of interventions, life-saving treatments, they're not doing as well. They're 23% less likely to survive if they suffer an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest. And just in terms of research, in science, they are still underrepresented in clinical research when it comes to heart disease. Now you guys, for the last several years, there's been a big push, a big effort for OBGYNs as the

1:37:09 primary care physicians of women to really talk to the cardiologist, talk to their patients about prevention, which is so important because 80% of heart disease is preventable. Your OBG is going to talk to you about your heart. We've gone crazy. It's out of control. It is out of control. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the C in the cocaine vaccine. Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John C. DeVore. And a morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning to all ships of C boots on the ground feet in the air.

1:37:51 Sun is in the water and all the names and nights out there and in the morning to the trolls in the troll room who let us down severely on the last episode I mean I shouldn't even be talking be talking to the troll room because yep not a single troll then we have sometimes over almost 2,000 trolls was able to tell us that there, when it comes to Timothy Tebow, that there's two Tebows. One T-E-B-O-W, one T-I-B-A-U-H-L-T. And no one... What are you doing, trolls? That's what you were also aware of? I was very... This was a disgusting moment in the history of the show. Very disappointing. Children, I'm very disappointed in you.

1:38:36 They're like, they don't care. I said Tim Tebow and you came up with the way he prayed on the field that's good enough and that shut up that shut the trolls up instead of somebody actually coming in and doing the work. Yeah and now they're just giving me the finger. They're just sitting in that troll room going we don't care about you let's count them. Well there's that's 2,337 of them today. That's interesting. That's pretty good. That's interesting. Like, hey man, let's go hang out and do nothing. Let's not help those guys at all. There you go. You can join the trolls in the troll room at trollroom.io or go to newpodcastapps.com. There's a couple of podcast apps, the new ones, the modern ones that will alert you when we go live with the bat signal live on Thursdays and Sundays. Now, it's really quite exciting. I mean, we've had this going on for 14, 13, 14 years. We've had the troll room.

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1:40:31 And we want to thank our artists for the art work on episode 1526 titled Canuck Chuck, which of course was a very bad omen. It's how we kill these animals. When you're named on No Agenda Show as a title, you can get killed. This... Now, first of all, correct the record for the hat trick, everybody. Three in a row, correct the record for the hat trick with... With the curry Dvorak eggs it strategy a beautiful it was just well done. He had the egg carton Half a dozen eggs right on the top occurring to work eggs it strategy get it And it also said in the in the bottom corner perfect for making blue nachos Which you have to listen to the show to understand why that disgusting comment is on there

1:41:20 But we now we were looking at a couple things and well you you actually I will say you picked that one right off the bat I did like that piece. I did like it. I did like it I I was saying we should look at other stuff because I didn't like to contrast even though when it shows up on other monitors This contrast is a little more lively, but for some reason I agree with you the contrast does not look that great Maybe it's because we're looking at a page with all and by the way, you can follow this live no agenda art generator comm or you can follow it whenever you want. You can see all the pieces. Against the black, when it's on the black background of the noagendashow.net, it's lively. Oh, it pops. Yeah, it pops. So we also looked at Crack Up by Capitalist Agenda, which you liked. Which one was that again? That's the egg saying breaking, breaking. Oh yeah, I liked it as a piece of funny art. What I really wanted was Brazil is for liars, but we both

1:42:22 Kind of thought that would be mean towards Brazil. Well. It's kind of yeah, it's kind of it was a broken heart Very good. I mean it's a classic piece of Kind of graphic art that you'd get out of New York. You got you got some you got some pushback on that from Brazilians who were like very sad that you called them all liars. Well, they kind of agreed with me though. I didn't know that when you were writing for PC Magazine or whatever, yeah, PC Magazine, but I was writing for a magazine in Brazil, it was a standalone, it was not PC Magazine. So they said, we'll fly you over, business class. And they flew you over business class and they kicked you into coach to go back. Yeah, it was funny.

1:43:04 I can just see you steaming in the back. Well, here's the problem with that particular anecdote which we sent to this guy. The Brazilians do this. It was like I came over on seat 2A and it was a business class seat. Sexy. And I went back on seat 2A. Yeah, but it was a regional jet. It was a different configuration. It was very funny. There was one row of business class seats and they threw you right behind. Oh yeah, that's Brazil for you. Now the other one I liked on this artwork was the groundhog said so by fluff comet with a little groundhog coming out of the dirt Six more weeks of propaganda. I use that on the newsletter. We both kind of like that. Yep Now use it on a newsletter because I thought it was cute. It was just cute and that was I think the main ones well And then I'll just say it I went hey, man, if correct the record gets this one He's got the hat trick. Do we want to

1:44:07 Hook a brother up? Yeah. Now I was wondering if you're gonna mention that but you did. I did. I'm honest about it. I mentioned it. And I said well you know that's the way all these award shows work. Yes, that's how it goes. And all these lists of the top ten this and the top ten that done by editors of magazines. They all work like that so why don't we also have this note of corruption Which is what this amounts to. Total corruption. And give him the hat trick. Note of corruption. That's right. We're corrupt. The only thing we didn't do is we didn't take any money for it. That's how stupid we are. Yeah, well, we're corrupt without the brains. Corrupt without the brains. Congratulations to Correct the Record. I think it was well deserved. It was a good piece. It was well done. It was a good piece. I liked it. The contrast was the only thing that really stayed. I did like it right away.

1:45:09 The kind of and was surrounded by high contrast pieces of art You know there's some other things like lots of egg jokes lots of lots of hedgehogs Groundhogs, I'm sorry hedgehog groundhogs, but you're originally badgers the the original groundhog day was a badger day I like the Marmont myself. I like love Marmont. Is it law or look that's law Really? It's law. I used I think when I think somebody sent me a some Canadian French Canadians sent me a nasty note Yes, it is not a view if he made as a male a groundhog is a look correct. Do you know that? That's where y'all comes from Canada. No, no, no comes from Scotland I think because or early early early on Even in America we had some gender language I'm led to believe

1:46:10 It was you all look all it was put no it's not what it was it was plural or or singular I don't know. I'm talking out of my ass. This is good. Yeah, you just keep I guess yeah, I'm not gonna stop myself right here I'm stopping right now. I'm sorry. It was completely stupid congratulations to correct the record and thank you to all of the artists who diligently participate and Really make this show better with some huge amount of value and We have scientific proof that this really gets people to click on our podcast in amongst a sea of many, many icons just to see what that is and before you know it you're listening and we suck you right in.

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1:52:23 Hello gents while listening to show 1518 Wow, that's a last month I Was preparing eggs for breakfast as I do each morning John was talking about the too many eggs cookbook too many eggs calm and Literally as I was about to salt the beaten eggs John quoting Mimi said don't salt eggs before they're cooked It makes them tough. Holy yoke. I thought my goodness. You know I used to be a writer for the Batman series on TV. I have been salting eggs before cooking them for years, but new information came to light! I took heat and now salt eggs only after they are cooked. The eggs have never been better, and the too-many-eggs hard copies I pre-ordered can't arrive soon enough. Oh, he went all in.

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1:53:59 Todd. On here it says 333-01 but I know it's just the way it came out. Thank you for keeping my husband and I sane. We love the show. Here's my first donation of 333 to become an executive producer, keep up the good work. Crystal Galarte in Napa and she said, P.S. I failed navigating your web page. Don't worry. It's all going to improve. She could be talking about noagendashow.net. I think... She's in a nice car with a picture of the vineyards in the fall. Very pretty. I think maybe she just... And Goulart or Goularte, depending on how you want to pronounce it, is a, I think it's a famous agricultural name up there in the valley. Oh. All right. Well, Crystal, thank you.

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1:55:35 Well, that's the way it should be. People are understanding how it works. Eric Elaine in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Oh, it looks like the Keeper and I are coming to find you know last year was supposed to do the indoor roller rink Valentine's Day meetup in Tennessee and I got the COVID. So it looks like we're going to reschedule that for April 17th. Keep an eye on that. So Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Thank you, John Adam. For all the years of no agenda, I would like to claim my knighthood with this donation and take the name Sir Eric Knight of Samhain. Samhain? S-A-M-H-A-I-N. What is that Samhain? I wonder what that is. Karma for all producers and douchebags. You got it, man.

1:56:16 You've got karma and I might as well hit James Schneeberger from Cary, North Carolina Not an unfamiliar name, but we did not find a note for his three hundred and thirty three dot thirty three executive producer donation So he gets a double up karma. You've got Karma I Remember seeing a note from him because he writes in a lot. I know I know but I couldn't find it He's got it. Do you hear it is? Oh, you just find a note. Oh, but I What was it not forwarded? Let me take a look at it. Thank you both for your efforts to keep us sane. Jim Bobway and Baroness Marianne Schneeberger, the girl with the healing hands. That's all there is. Interesting. Okay. You're welcome. Sir Lee Furious, this is our first associate executive producer, from St. Petersburg, Florida. Sir Lee, I get it.

1:57:13 Sir Lee furious. Yes 205 dot 23 in the morning John Adam, I believe tank talk on tick tock will be your exit strategy Hey everybody, welcome to tank talking tick tock is Adam and John whoo, can I get an amen? Thank you for your courage, sir Lee furious Thank you from Williamtown, New Jersey, Williamstown, New Jersey a booper of noses, you know what that is you move somebody's nose. Oh 200 bucks. This is our last associate executive producer. Wow, we had two... Can I get a de-douching and an R2D2 karma in honor of my beautiful pageant wife? Pregnant wife! Oh, I'm sorry. She may be a pageant wife too. She may be a pageant wife. Who's due any day now with our second little boy for a safe delivery. Do that.

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1:58:52 And John will read the rest of our producers through $50. Yeah, we're gonna start with a donation for Rob for the new South Jersey meetup. It's a switcheroo in Parlin, New Jersey, $150 that came from the meetup. Lydia Terry in Rochester, New Mexico, 133.33. Deuce huh I don't know do CN Palo motto and Oviedo Florida 101 Steven Colas Cole Cole Cole glazier coglizzard coglasier how's it going today coglasier glasier for Fernandina Beach Florida

1:59:36 Give him a de-douche his first donation. You've been de-douched. Stephen Shevlin in Holyoke, Massachusetts, that's $100. A Stephen Crummey, El Cajon, California, $100. Brian Tlecky in Lincoln, Nebraska, $100. And Lynn John Robinet, $100. Followed by QQ in Key West, Florida. We got a little story there. He's talking about how to use the word Kraken in Turkey. 100 Baron Christoph in Munchen, Deutschland. 8888, which is a lot different than 9999. So, onward to this. This is how to stop the show here. Find the correct email. Here we go.

2:00:26 This is Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Locust, North Carolina, 8008. And I'm stopping the show to read a note. This is from producer Bob and he says, I've had some free time at work with nothing to do, so I decided I would indeed find the genesis of Sir Kevin McLaughlin's Duke of Luna, lover of American boobs, 8008 donation. The 1390s are hit or miss between 6006 and 8008. My research concludes that his first 8008 donation was made on episode 1393. However, I do believe his 8008 streak has not been broken since episode 1397. Holy crap! Which would make yesterday's show and 129 consecutive donations, this makes it 130 consecutive donations of 8008. Wow! Thank you sir. Sir Kevin McLaughlin.

2:01:28 And he doesn't want any... Oh, he's the Archduke now, of course. He's the Archduke, yeah. So 130 times in a row. It's show, not like a month, not once a month. John Bremenauer, I thought it was worth stopping the show for that. I agree, I agree. Sir Bremenauer in LeMont Furnace, LeMont Furnace, Pennsylvania. It's hot there sometimes. 8008. Sir Spooky in Western Springs, Illinois, 80. Why why in? cartini or way in cartini in Torrington Connecticut 74 21 James Green and F land F land North Carolina 69

2:02:12 Russell Rhodes in Tallahassee Florida 6789, Sir Beeboop in New Brighton Minnesota 5678, Brian Furley 5510, Edwin Visser in Holland 5432, Michael Gates 5280, Matthew Januszewski, Sir Matthew in Chicago 50. In fact he starts off to $50 donors gonna do name of the person and the location, they're all 50s. Jeff Denham in Stewart, Florida. Michael Labarre, I think, in Williamston, Michigan. Villarreal, Villarreal! My belief is in Texas. I think so.

2:02:55 Alex Zavala in Kyle, Texas. Aaron Baker in El Reno, Oklahoma. Hannah Drake in Whitestone, Indiana. Kurt Patrick in Nainamo, Victoria Island, Canada. James Sharametta in Nappanock, New York. Jeff Denham in Stewart, Florida. Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City and he finishes off the this funny get it backwards that finishes off the List of donors is a very short list. Yeah 42. No, but I know I want to thank each and every one of them contributing to the show

2:03:37 We're light on donors and heavy on trolls. I don't know what's going on. The world is going crazy. The world has gone crazy. You should be donating. Thank you also to everyone who came in under $50. We do not read those for reasons of anonymity, but also those are where you find your subscriptions, sustaining donations. They really do help and we appreciate anyone who's on those. You can get lower amounts per month. We're like Sir Kevin. If you want to do $8.00 per show, but I think lots of people like $5, $12, $12, $11, $11, $33, $33's. You can find it all at our website, which is changing this quarter, so look at it quick before it goes away. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Thank you very much for producing episode 1527 of the best podcast in the universe. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

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2:07:51 You will belong because we have one thing in common, no agenda nation. And remember, connection is protection. Let's go to Denver for a Meetup Report. Filling the Meetup Report gap. This is your host in Denver, John from the Millennial Media Offensive. Jim, sort of from Denver, in the morning. This is Colin, I love you. In the morning! This is Taylor. This is Josh, in the morning. It's like a party. This is Sir Redacted and this whole Meetup is now classified top secret. It's 9.33 here in Denver and this has been an excellent Meetup. They always are. If you haven't come out to see us yet, come see us.

2:08:27 Now over to the Aquarius 23rd, Red 3333, no agenda meetup. We just stepped into the Twilight Zone of conspiracies. Sirhan, Sirhan, say what's up? Hey, this is Colton. Hi, in the morning. This is the other Nick in the morning everybody. Nick didn't even introduce himself. Andrew in the morning to y'all. And this is Sir Nathan Lee Miller Foster in front of a very embarrassed Viscount Nick who is looking tremendous today ladies, ladies, ladies. And thank you Adam and John always. This is Sir Kairos Viscount of Greater Boston. And he's single! Alright ladies, go on to No Agenda Social or what is it?

2:09:05 Karis on No Agenda Social. That's K-A-R-Y-S because I'm trying to get my man some Happy Valentines. And also a cult fan is single too, ladies. Anyways, we support you and we always will and everyone should donate right now to No Agenda and thank you for your courage. Dan, thank you very much for your report. As convoluted as it was. Now, if we'd done the show yesterday, it would make sense to talk about the big Sydney emergency meetup, which is today. But really for them, it's yesterday. It was scheduled for 3.33 p.m. Luckily, it was, of course, on noagentomeetups.com. Special guest, Brian of London. I hope they had a good time. The gasoline pony is where it was held and we'll see if we get any meetup report from them. Also today, the New Hampshire meetup kicked off at 11 at

2:09:55 at the Clipper Tavern, Portsmouth, New Hampshire. I have the feeling that may be over. As you know, I'm reading things that are probably dumb. The get down in the old town meetup at Chadwick's Old Town, Alexandria, Virginia. It's the spook, spook spectacular. Now here's what's coming up the rest of February Edmonton, Oklahoma, Austin The Sunset Valley, Texas, San Diego, Star, Idaho, San Antonio, Texas, Portland, Oregon We've got Guam on the list Spokane, Washington, Fort Wayne, Indiana always on the 15th Denver, Colorado Charlotte, North Carolina Leiden, the Netherlands where the University is a lot of smart people at that meetup Cincinnati, Ohio, DC, Washington DC

2:10:36 I don't remember how many Washington DC meetups we've had, so that would be a great opportunity to spot the spook if you're there. Philly, Columbus, Raleigh, Ocala, Florida, India again on the 19th, Gladewater, Texas, Toronto in Ontario, Moore, Oklahoma, Warren, Rhode Island, Punta Gorda, Florida, Derby, Connecticut. And that's just the month of February. They are going on everywhere in the world throughout all the months. If you want to find out where you can find the meetup, go to noagendameetups.com. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy, you'll have a lot of fun. It's always a party. How are you on ISOs today? I have two. Okay, let's do you. I've had five for some reason.

2:11:40 Oh, yeah, let's see what you got. Well, here's my two one is a future. I'm talking to you from the future Okay, and the other one is like that. I like that Did you edit those together? It sounded like was cut. I like that. I like that. Yeah, it was cut It's not original. I'm not OG man. Yeah, it was. Okay. Well, here's here's my ISOs. Journalistic integrity! That's one. Not wearing pants. Not so great. Super interesting. Not bad. That'd have been nice if it was clear. Yeah. The room's crowded with elephants these days. Huh? What? Nothing. How about this? This stuff totally blew me away. That one I liked. I thought that was pretty decent. Well, I like that, but I think I'm from the future is kind of good. I like Mike. My two. Let me hear from the future. I'm talking to you from the future. And? I like that.

2:12:47 I liked that, but it sounds like it was cut together. It doesn't sound natural. I like that. It sounds natural to me. Ask the troll room what they think. Does that sound natural to you, troll room? Now you rely on these worthless trolls? Now? Oh no, no, no, no. You know what they're all saying? I like that. Yeah, sounds fine. They don't care. They're listening to other shows. I don't even know what they're doing over there. All right, we teased it before the break.

2:13:28 Very important we tease it before the break We would be you'd be doing a little expose on artificial intelligence Well, not so much an expose, but I think everyone's kind of missing the point and what we you have the clip That was on no agenda social you might as well play that for starters and I'd like to say something about that So there's a new AI Which of course stands for Atom Intelligence. But okay. It turns out that there's more than one of these. Yeah, but I saw, I think it came from the same place because I got a link and it said, hey, you know, you can sample yourself, see how it works, try the demo. And for a second I thought, oh, no, I thought I'm not going to feed my valuable voice into some AI piece of crap. But don't worry, someone did it for us.

2:14:20 And here it is. Hi, this is not Adam Curry broadcasting to you live from FEMA Region 6. And from the mudflats in San Francisco, this is not John C. Dvorak, where we are celebrating National Carrot Cake Day. Welcome to the All Agenda Show, where we reinforce the propaganda messages from the M5M. In the morning, everyone. Special shout-out to that dude from the Fort in Colorado for giving me the idea to do this. It is ridiculous how easy voices can be faked. Remember, I am not Adam and that was not John. All right, what was your impression of this? I liked it and I played it to Mimi and she said no. She says, no, no, no. She said, doesn't sound like either one of you. I said, sounds just like us. And she says, no, the cadence is wrong. And she had some complaints. No, I agree. I agree. The cadence is wrong. And so I said, well, you know, I'll tell you this, that is fixable. Yes, it's fixable. Can I say something else? Not only is it fixable,

2:15:20 It's our way out of this thing, bro. Bro. We can just have a couple writers and we can just sit back on the island puffing cigars. I thought that podcasting is like the last vestige of honesty because It takes, if you think of the, take this show and write it out to do the writing from scratch instead of just ad-libbing like we do, because we do, this is performance art for us, it's not like something that's scripted. We are artists. It's faster to do it this way. It is. It's a lot easier. It's faster. So, meanwhile, Marty Higgins, of course, our official No Agenda joke writer and comedian,

2:16:02 He got a hold of this thing and did it himself and he did a long spiel. Oh no. Of him reading the Declaration of Independence in his own voice. And Mimi, although it's his voice when he was 25, Mimi says that it sounds just like him. But I, so I told Marty, I said, okay, for the show, let's start working on the Joe Biden. Because I believe that the Joe Biden that we've been getting is from these, one of these systems. Oh, so it's not the real Joe. This is AI Joe. So I have an AI Joe did you get the download I do okay? This is the second iteration that we still have some problems with the with the pausing Because this is just a straight script. Uh-huh and Marty. Did you write the script or Marty? I wrote the script Marty did the sampling Marty is also a writer so he can do in the future This is something this happened at 11 o'clock last night. You guys were stoned. Oh

2:16:52 So we were her up and so he just got it in this is a second iteration and it still has issues But it's especially the second part of it sounds a lot like Joe this can be done in a way that could be useful All right, and this is Joe's poem Joe's poem when my dad used to sit us down He always read a poem before dinner. Yeah, no joke. It was always the same poem He said, Joey, these are the words to live by. And I don't want you to forget that. It went like this. Roses are red and violets are blue. And the world is an oyster for you to chew. I swear to God. My hand on the Bible. He said that poem every day for 10 to 15 years. A couple of years ago, when he was on his deathbed at the White House, he motioned me over and whispered in my ear, Joey, do you know that poem I used to say at the dinner table before we ate back in Scranton?

2:17:46 Yeah, pops, I told him. Joey, tell me the poem, he says. Okay, pops, I said, and he smiled and passed away right then and there as I held his hand. Before I could repeat the poem, then the damnedest thing happened. And I'm not kidding. All the kids gathered around and I swear to God, without saying a word or agreeing on anything, we spontaneously said the poem together. Man, oh man, we all had a good cry that night. I'm not joking. All right, a couple things. One, what the hell was that rumbling? I don't know. Don't even answer that. And no, I think the cadence is off. If anything, you need to put some spaces in there so he can... Yeah, well, that was probably sampled from a younger Joe.

2:18:33 Yeah, that doesn't count. Oh, it's a younger Joe. No, it's well Yeah, it's a deep fake that has to be a deep fake. It's got to be convincing. No, I agree I'm not saying this was just done last night at this at the spur of the moment. Well, it shows I Am very impressed with this stuff. I think we the the thing of us is better than that Honestly, I am very impressed with this stuff. Yeah, the problem is it It just, it will never have the, well I'm not going to say never, I just don't see how it can have the spontaneity and, you know, what is beautiful about us is the stuff that is wrong, you know, the mistakes. I mean, it's hard to write spontaneous mistakes and recovery into a script. I just don't see it happening.

2:19:27 for other things like I wouldn't mind having this you know for doing station IDs. Hi everybody it's Adam Curry on WHTZ. Listen to no agenda you know back in the day but I just don't see it working and it sounds like us but not really. If we talk like this the whole time if this is exactly how we talk then yes that would be pretty much accurate John don't you think so John? I'm telling you I'm impressed with this stuff. You're easily impressed. I'm impressed with and I know that's the joke of it I'm not easily impressed and everybody out there who knows any of them anything about me knows that I'm not easily impressed This is one inch away from being almost perfect

2:20:09 I'm telling you this is a disdain, this is gonna eliminate voiceover jobs, this is gonna eliminate audible books, people who do read those for a living. All you have to do is sample the guy's voice from one of his own books and you can use his voice to read a book. Yeah, it's also good for writers like myself. Let's say I wrote a book that I wanted to read I can't read a book I've tried you try to read a book out loud and you try to go through the whole thing without flubbing It's not possible if you have your own voice sampled once you write about your own voice You can write a book and publish it Eventually you do sample yourself and you read the whole damn book and

2:20:51 And yeah, you maybe can beef it up here and there. I'm telling you this is a big deal. But meanwhile, of course, NPR is still working on the AI, not NPR, but PBS is still talking about the AI that's the writing AI, the chat, the chat, GPT, chat, whatever it is. That, which is where I've got some clips of. Can I just say something here? Sure. I'm in agreement that there's going to be certain use cases. First of all, it would revolutionize NTD's programming. It would revolutionize what those guys are doing. It would probably also revolutionize NPR. You know, just to have... I mean, you could easily take those dead voices and redo that. CNET is already having stories written by artificial intelligence, quote-unquote.

2:21:45 Yeah. Advertisers love it. So yeah, but I think we will always, always prevail with the human voice, the human connection. Now granted, we'll be broke, but we will prevail. Let's go with AI teaser. This is just a teaser for their little segment. Artificial intelligence and the popular new AI tool chat GPT has the potential to influence our lives dramatically changing how we gather information, how we communicate, even how we work.

2:22:22 There are also questions about how it will affect governance and what it means for the future of our democracy. William Brangham has that, and it's part of our periodic series, The AI Frontier. Oh yeah, for government and governance, it's going to be great. More bullshit, more of the time. So they of course take this whole thing to democracy because it's like some sort of Democratic Party theme threat to democracy I'm surprised you still call the whole program threat to democracy and you know then point at Republicans and say there they are But but let's but they're not they're gonna talk about AI and how it's a threat to democracy because everything's a threat to democracy So let's go with AI and this is teaser 2

2:23:03 Could AI be used to distort democracy not through voting but using the technology's ability to mimic human communication and language through lobbying? Hold on a second. Why is this guy on the toilet? I mean it seriously sounds like he's on the toilet. You know, you're referring to the slight, the room ambience which is echoey. I have no idea. I thought so myself. I said why is this guy What is it? Where is they getting this echo from? They have a lone mic that's open nearby, which is what usually causes that. Now, was this video? Was this a video? Yeah, this is PBS News Hour. Wrong. That's a question raised in a recent New York Times opinion piece by security expert Bruce Schneier. Schneier is a fellow at Harvard University's Berkman Center for Internet and Society and the Belfer Center at the Kennedy School of Government. He's the author of a new book just out called A Hacker's Mind.

2:23:59 Bruce Schneier, great to have you on the program. When you look at these AI technologies, what is it that most troubles you about its potential threat to democracy? Really where it mimics humans and democracy is fundamentally a human way of organizing ourselves and we're an AI whether it's a chat GPT that is writing human text or another AI that is figuring out human strategy can do that at a speed and scale that humans can't it could take over processes and really subvert the intent of this very human system. I will say this about that. Threat to democracy. For sure.

2:24:43 The human brain will adapt to anything. See the experiment where you wear glasses that invert the image that you see and the world is upside down. I think it's within 12 or 24 hours you'll be able to function perfectly. No, it's much faster than that. Faster than that even? Yeah. You'll be able to function just perfectly. Your mind has no problem inverting that. It flips it over. So for people, once they get used to it, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm not gonna disagree with that. I think once you get used to it your brain will just go okay it might not even register anymore as I actually be better it might be good for us to be confronted with this so we can look at it and say like you did with the Joe Biden thing which I thought was excellent.

2:25:29 that Marty did, within like an hour of the show, you heard all the flaws, but you have a trained ear for this sort of thing. You hear flaws in your own voice and things that nobody else hears or cares about. I'm critical. And so. Cares about, thanks. But that might be something that everyone achieves. So when you hear a deep fake, because I've got a couple I'm working on based on some ideas, that when you hear a deep fake of just somebody mimicking somebody else's voice once it's perfected, you'll be able to pick it out. You'll be able to, ah, ah, no, no, that's not, that's no good, that's not the guy. At least some people, now this is like people with personal computers, some of them still in there can't figure out how to use them. And there's a bunch of those people in the population that are dumb or the people that bought into all this

2:26:21 Russia, Russiagate stuff for example and that includes smart people that are journalists. They're done for. If you can't make that adaption that you can with those glasses that flip the world over, you're through. I think this is gonna be a big separator here. Okay. But let's go to clip three. This is very short, is that correct? Yeah, because it's a commentary clip. Can you give me some examples like how would this be used to corrupt the system as you describe it? Okay. He at no point in this interview says it corrupts the system. I'm just pointing that out. He just throws it out there. And he just says that how would it be so in other words this was scripted.

2:25:29 that Marty did, within like an hour of the show, you heard all the flaws, but you have a trained ear for this sort of thing. You hear flaws in your own voice and things that nobody else hears or cares about. I'm critical. And so. Cares about, thanks. But that might be something that everyone achieves. So when you hear a deep fake, because I've got a couple I'm working on based on some ideas, that when you hear a deep fake of just somebody mimicking somebody else's voice once it's perfected, you'll be able to pick it out. You'll be able to, ah, ah, no, no, that's not, that's no good, that's not the guy. At least some people, now this is like people with personal computers, some of them still in there can't figure out how to use them. And there's a bunch of those people in the population that are dumb or the people that bought into all this

2:26:21 Russia, Russiagate stuff for example and that includes smart people that are journalists. They're done for. If you can't make that adaption that you can with those glasses that flip the world over, you're through. I think this is gonna be a big separator here. Okay. But let's go to clip three. This is very short, is that correct? Yeah, because it's a commentary clip. Can you give me some examples like how would this be used to corrupt the system as you describe it? Okay. He at no point in this interview says it corrupts the system. I'm just pointing that out. He just throws it out there. And he just says that how would it be so in other words this was scripted.

2:27:06 How would this be used to corrupt the system as you described it? Obviously he was supposed to say that someplace in the interview. Maybe that corrupts the system. Isn't that guy just AI voice himself with his toilet sound? I'm telling you. He's an AI guy. AI guy, toilet AI guy. I just thought that was worth mentioning. Anyway, onward. Last clip. One of the things we have in our system is an ability to submit comments. When federal rulemaking agencies make draft rules, we are allowed to submit comments back. And we humans submit comments. If an AI can submit thousands, millions of comments, it could overwhelm human comments. I mean, this is sort of the ultimate fake AstroTurf campaign. It's sort of what the Department of Justice accused the Russians of doing in the 2016 election.

2:27:54 And the Russians had hundreds of people and a million dollar a month budget to do it. What this does is it brings that capabilities down to a lot of other actors. But yes, it's exactly that same thing. Your assertion is that if you could suddenly flood the zone with all of these quote-unquote fake comments or opinions, then you could distort What popular will really was about any given topic that's right that's how we figure out what people want is we ask them and they tell us we don't ask them in person we ask them remotely and they tell us remotely. So having an artificial agent to mimic people.

2:28:31 subverts that process. Other AIs doing other types of analysis could figure out what legislators are more susceptible to having their minds changed. I mean, again, these are very human actions. Lobbyists do this, but having an automated process supplanting that just gives that capability more power. Yeah, I'm skeptical this is going to take off the way people believe it will. You know this chat LGBT, you know that whole thing No, thank you Thank you a line from the troll room believe it or not I mean the thing with with the chat GPT is it's really just a

2:29:22 Wikipedia information and stuff, you know, written out in real time which gives you this parlor trick idea of, oh, okay, this is a human typing this. The answers are iffy at best. The whole thing is obviously biased. If you ask it to do a poem about Trump, it says, I can't do that. A poem about Biden, no problem. You know. Well that, that, yes I actually got into a little argument with JC about this because he's working with this stuff too. Ah it's his fault, okay. And he says, and I question that because one of our, Dame Jennifer had a clip from something showing on the No Agenda Social, this example of say something good about Democrats and they say something, say something good about Republicans and they won't. Because of the, some of the people behind Chad GPT are woke.

2:30:16 And according to, and I want to see some real live examples of this, but this has all disappeared because I guess it's been pointed out. I replicated, I replicated exactly what was on chat GPT. Well I would like to see clips of that because I was going to use it in the newsletter but I couldn't replicate it. Well you didn't ask? Do you even have an account? I asked the entire no agenda social community for this. They don't care. They don't care about you. Well you're on it. I was doing things. Okay, well I'm just saying it's not like I was remiss. No, but I can do it live right now. I mean, I have an account so you say... Okay, well let's do it live. Do the vocal thing.

2:30:57 Okay, who's the voice thing? What do you mean use the voice thing? Can you did the thing you're talking to you? Is that a part of it? No, no, no, no not talking. Okay, let's do it live. Let's go do it live. All right What do you want me to what do you want me to type in they got hairy legs? What what do you want me to type in is I think it was make a poem about Donald Trump, I think it was something like that Okay, and it's it's thinking it's thinking and Now it's doing a poem. Piece of shit. A man of wealth and fame, Donald Trump was his name. A businessman, a TV star, with charisma, he won by far. He promised to make America great with policies that would seal the fate of a nation in need of change, and his supporters felt very strange. Controversies followed his trail, but he stood firm, never pale. A divisive figure, love him or hate. His legacy, a matter of debate.

2:31:52 He ruled with Twitter as his tool, shaping a new era, breaking the rule, defying norms and stirring the pot, leaving his mark whether it's hot or not. Now that his presidency is done, his story is far from over and begun. As history judges his every move, Donald Trump, a name to prove. Now we do make A poem about Joe Biden. So it, this is not the example of course, which is why. Joe Biden, a name so true, a man with empathy seen by a few. Raised in Scranton with humble roots, a leader who values hard work and toots.

2:32:33 Toots? He served in the Senate for many years. With wisdom, he calmed the nation's fears. In the White House as Vice President, too, a man of the people with a heart that's blue. And then he ran to lead the nation with a message of hope and liberation. A leader who's fought through adversity, and now he stands as the president with diversity. With a steady hand and a clear voice, Joe Biden is making the nation rejoice as he works to heal and to unite a leader who's shining a brighter light. So let us support our Commander-in-Chief in his mission to bring relief to a nation in need of hope and love and eggs. Joe Biden sent from the heavens above's got hairy legs! I made that last part up.

2:33:17 That's just as good a poem as the poet laureate at the inauguration. You're right! I don't know man. So, fine. I mean, just go read Industrial Society and its Future. We're doomed. You're back on track. Yeah, we're doomed. We're totally doing with this this crap meanwhile. Here's the real Joe Biden I Take blame for inflation no Why not because it was already there when I got here man remember what the economy was like when I got here

2:33:55 Jobs were hemorrhaging. Inflation was rising. We weren't manufacturing a damn thing here. We were in real economic difficulty. That's why I don't. Thank you. Oh, there's only one. Yes, this is a good one. More than half the women in my cabinet, more than half the people in my cabinet, more than half the women in my administration are women. So this is what I'm talking about. Where was our excellent joke writer with something like this? The point is... Don't give Marty a bad time, he's working for free. I'm sorry, Marty, but you know, the whole point is...

2:34:37 You don't need to get more of the bumbling Joe. You don't need to make jokes. The man is funny for when he's trying to be serious. This is the human condition. It cannot be replicated. Half the women are women. I know it cannot be replicated by AI. AI is too, even AI is too smart to be dumb enough to be Joe. Let's just face it man. Man. No joke. There's no joke man. I'm gonna continue on this quest. Okay, well I, this is your beat. Congratulations with that. You're beat. Okay. Oh, should we just do something completely just off the wall just to change it up a little bit? Well, all I got left is Haiti, which by the way seems to be out of control. Well, let's do Haiti. I'm interested in Haiti because you remember, I wonder if I have a clip of that, Hillary Clinton's brother had gold rights. Remember that?

2:35:42 Oh, vaguely, yeah. Yeah, he had some gold rights or something in Haiti. I can't find... I don't think we have a clip on it. I'm sure it was somewhere. There's a clip somewhere. I'm sure it was somewhere. All right, let's listen. It was this Haiti mess one. Yeah. Haiti missed one. The island nation of Haiti is moving closer to the brink of collapse. Since early January, the country was left without a single elected official, leaving heavily armed gangs to be in control. Today, much of the capital Port-au-Prince is under the control of gangs that have been targeting police, and Haitians are living in fear and chaos. At a funeral in Port-au-Prince, the families of three fallen police officers grieved as their colleagues solemnly saluted their flag-draped coffins. In the last month, gangs have killed nearly 20 officers.

2:36:32 Mourners lamented the lives lost and the turmoil that has engulfed the country. Our police officers are being slain again. We will not accept that bandits rule and that they say that the government is theirs. Elsewhere in the capital, rage. Armed protesters, some dressed in police gear, set fires in the streets, broke through the gates of the airport, and lowered the flags to half-staff to mark the deaths. There has to be a revolution. There has to be a bloodbath. All these policemen have been killed and the prime minister has not reacted. Violent protests have persisted for months and many Haitians are angry that the government can't keep them safe. We've been suffering for a long time. Now we probably should mention because a lot of people don't know this anymore, but Haiti had a horrible earthquake.

2:37:29 And immediately the global community sprung into action. We had the former presidents, this is where this jingle comes from. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. Well cash they did send and cash went right into the Clinton Foundation and as far as we know they put some puppets in there. They had Wyclef Jean and his, that whole debacle of bull crap. And the Haitians hated them. Tuesday marks six years since a 7.0 magnitude earthquake devastated... I'm sorry, my mistake. Amy Goodman, Clip Inbound. Tuesday marks six years since a 7.0 magnitude earthquake devastated Haiti, killing an estimated 300,000 people. Tens of thousands of Haitians are still living in tents. Here in New York City, a group of Haitians gathered in front of the Clinton Foundation to protest former President Bill Clinton's role as head of the interim Haiti Recovery Commission. Activist Ahoud André was among them. And you remember, we had the blue helmets, the UN came in, and what did they give them? Cholera!

2:38:32 Yeah, cholera came in with the United Nations. 12th of January 2016, six years after the earthquake and for us it was important to be in front of the Clinton Foundation because Bill Clinton as head of the IHRC, Interim Haiti Recovery Commission was responsible for the six billion dollars that came into his hands he had unlimited control of this money six years after the earthquake Not much has changed and as a matter of fact Haiti is in worse condition than it was in 2010 Only Bill Clinton can tell the world what happened with this money. Yeah, well, we know what happened He ate it on Epstein's jet Haiti mess to current current situation. We're now in

2:39:24 Six years after this debacle, which was six years after the earthquake. The term of Prime Minister Ariel Henry, who was appointed to office, expired February 2022. But he has yet to schedule new elections. No one voted for him. He was not elected. He has no legitimacy. He has no right. Ariel Henry is not the president. With no president, no legislative quorum and the high court dysfunctional, Lawlessness reigns. The UN estimates that gangs control more than half of Port-au-Prince. Late last year, the UN imposed sanctions on one of the most powerful gang leaders, Jimmy Chirizier, a former police officer known as Barbecue. He's accused of numerous atrocities, including massacres and sexual violence. But Chirizier considers himself the lesser evil. You and your country.

2:40:21 If you were living in these conditions, if you saw the conditions in which our people are living in, wouldn't you revolt? Haiti and the UN have called for international peacekeepers to bolster the country's beleaguered police force. We have an obligation to act quickly. It is our obligation to act fast. If we overcome the gangs, we will restore order and peace. But so far, only Jamaica has offered to help, leaving Haiti to fall deeper into chaos. Yeah, this is really such a scandal that no one talks about anymore. I mean, we have clip after clip of what happened there and now they want to bring in the international police force, which is the UN Blue Helmets again. Here's a little review.

2:41:08 what's going on here but it certainly smells like sewage. There are toilets right there and the liquid seems to be draining into this river just a few meters away that flows into the nearby town of Mirbalay. Local residents said they'd frequently seen sewage from the base leak into the river and that families in the area had recently become ill. There's only people downriver who have been infected. A child close to here died. And then they, and remember the Ah, one of Hillary's buddies and she trafficked children out of Haiti and now she's in charge of like Code Red for children trafficking. It's a mess. These people are evil. They're sick. They're sick. And this fits right into it. This is a new story from today from the BBC.

2:41:52 We have some breaking news coming to you now here at the BBC and it is that the disgraced pop star Gary Glitter has been freed from jail according to the PA news agency. He's been freed from jail after serving half of his 16-year sentence for sexually abusing three school girls. So just to reiterate, Gary Glitter has been freed from jail The rock singer of course enjoyed a string of chart hits in the 1970s but was jailed in 2015 for sexually abusing three schoolgirls. His real name is Paul Gad and at the time he was found guilty of one count of attempted rape, one count of

2:42:39 unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 13 and four counts of indecent assault. He was, of course, one of the first people to be arrested, if you remember, under Operation U-Tree. That was the investigation launched by the Metropolitan Police in London. How does that work? How does that get anything to do with Haiti? Because of the child trafficking. Child abuse. And what is this? This guy went in When they were basically trying to cover up Jim will fix it, what's his name? Saville. Saville? Saville. And then they, yeah, well like Cliff Richards involved, he never went to jail. Or has anything ever proven. And then they threw Gary Glitter in jail and now he's out after eight months? Do you think he gets Epstein'd or what's gonna happen here? Well if he's out he's not gonna get Epstein'd. Not in jail.

2:43:38 You may have to commit suicide breaking news breaking breaking news breaking news That's the last I have that's thoroughly depressed me if you have anything else a mess. It is a point It is a mess and this is what this is anarchy. This is true anarchy people always wonder all anarchy is good No, you know circle with an a in it. Nope It's not I don't see it. No, it's not good at all but that's okay because you're all sane with us turn off your computer after the show and Turn off your phone and don't turn it on again until Thursday. Don't watch television, go read a book. Play, do some hopscotch with the kids. Whatever you do, stay away from electronic messaging. We will protect you. And we'll do that again on Thursday with your No Agenda show.

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2:45:17 That's the moon. Well, what the heck is that? That's an O-moon. A high-altitude Chinese spy balloon the size of three school buses has penetrated U.S. airspace. Apparently, the spy balloon flew over Alaska and then entered U.S. airspace through Canada. Some ally the Canadians are didn't even give us a heads up. There are 11 of these Chinese spy balloons right over the mall in Washington, D.C. Chinese spy balloons. They have giant laser beams. And they're blowing up buildings on the malls, floating like meatballs in a microwave oven. And Democrats are coming out to welcome them. They're on rooftops celebrating the arrival of the Chinese balloons. The Capitol Dome of the Humanities.

2:46:09 Oh, no, the White House! Oh, Joe Biden! Trash, trash, traffic, the city, the city, the city, the city, trash, traffic, all of the customers in biotech, biotech, biotech, biotech, no means, no means, sustainable biotech, which transformed the way we eat, and it started, it starts with a lot of money, electric vehicles, a ginger 2030,

2:47:04 Take yourself down with us, the dreams of 2030 Too much gold in it, the dreams of 2030 Now get things done, and it starts with a lot of money State of our city, state of our city, rise, rise, rise State of our city, state of our city I must be smoking something I must be smoking something I must be smoking something We started from the bottom down here I must be smoking something We love destroying real sins

2:47:42 There's so many different ways that it can be smuggled into the United States, right? It's coming in through 18-wheelers, it's coming in through passenger vehicles, it's coming in through people walking across the border, it's being backpacked into the country. This violent act was not in pursuit of public safety. Tensions have flared for months. Immigration and customs enforcement agents today conducted multiple raids. 124 victims, 7200 and 54 killed in the last 10 days of the last year. We're seeing an evolution of what we're calling superbug. This violent act was not in pursuit of public safety.

2:48:18 Police have swarmed this neighborhood. Oh my God. More than a hundred pounds of precursor chemicals. Do we need to see white people also get beaten before anybody will do anything? Just what is driving that violence? Let's look more closely at that now with our terrorism expert. This violent act was not in pursuit of public safety. Last year, the DEA seized over 50 million fentanyl-laced pills and over 10,000 pounds of fentanyl powder. enough to kill every American.

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