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00:00 You're gonna kill the old man, Bill. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, September 29th, 2022. This is your award-winning Keep On Nation Media assassination episode 1490. This is no agenda. Trackin' pipe globally and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's beautiful, I'm John C. Dvorak. How beautiful is it? Seems to be raining in Florida. Oh goodness. Did they write that for you? Did you pay $10 for that one? What? For that joke. Seems to be raining in Florida. That was a joke? Oh come on. It's a fact. Alrighty then. Yeah. How convenient is this thing?

00:55 I mean, very inconvenient for people. Tina knows a lot of people in Fort Myers. They went through a very difficult time. Well, Fort Myers got swacked. Hammered. Absolutely hammered. Hammered. Hammered. Yeah. No, it really did. No, it did. It got hammered. So, and you know, this is to, you know, I talk to Tina whenever this happens and she's lived through Cat 2, I think, or maybe a Cat 3, but never a Cat 5. And she said besides the terrifying howling like you're in a freight train in your house. Yeah, the noise is bad. It's really, really bad. The aftermath is the problem. She says, you know, guaranteed there's a week. First of all, there are people dead. You know, this is a massive day wrecker. Then there's a week of no electricity. Everyone's got generators running. It's just this constant generator noise.

01:50 your house starts to get all moldy and smell like it's rotting away from the water. It's bad, it's bad. It stinks. And of course this was a once in a 500 year event. Uh-huh. Sure. How convenient. First we can knock off the news of the pipeline sabotage. So let's just... I don't think that's lessened much. It's always handy to have. Internationally, here, yeah, maybe. Yeah, well, it's about here. But we don't care. Let's face it. What difference does it make to us? Do you think that Florida will have infrastructure back up and running in time for the midterm elections with this devastating... Okay. I thought it was... I didn't clip it. I heard it. Tina was watching The Five on Fox and I heard, you know, they always have a token Democrat

02:44 sometimes it's Geraldo, sometimes it's former senators, I forget his name. It's like the CNN token Republicans. Oh, it's totally. Well, CNN doesn't even do token Republicans. Well, they used to. So they have this Jessica lady and she and I got to hand it to her, she holds herself up pretty well against, you know, the obvious scorn and deserved. But she said something, she said, and she was, they were interviewing Marco Rubio. Rubio's always in on games everywhere, so I don't trust him. And she asked, what about the nursing homes? How are the nursing homes? And it just struck me for that moment like, are we going to try and draw a comparison with Cuomo and with DeSantis if people in the nursing homes die? You know what I mean? I just felt like that was already the spin that she was trying to put on it.

03:38 TV sucks. Hey, but we're supposed to deconstruct it. So I'm just trying to figure out where are we where are we going with this? Well, I can't come up with anything. I don't even know if I have any clips. I may have one wrap-up clip on the hurricane. Do I? Well, I have a couple clips. Let's play him and get that out of the way. Let's go to Bill Weir at CNN. Now, usually when there's an event like this we'll do a mock report. and let everyone know how phony this is. But these guys were actually in bad wind, the wind was not phony. But the fact that they're doing it, it's just so stupid. Oh look, it's windy, it's windy, oh I'm hongoling to a pipe, to a stop sign, oh it's windy, it's windy, it's just always windy.

04:32 Oh, I put a condom on my microphone because it's windy, windy, windy. Oh, this is a viral clip. She put a condom on the microphone. That's the stupidity that distracts from the pipeline wars. Anyway, Bill Weaher, who I think used to be a sports guy or is a sports guy, is out there and he does the inevitable. Ian is coming, Ian's here. John, we just felt a marked increase in wind speeds within the last 10 minutes or so. We were riding about 40, 50 miles an hour. It's hard to fathom that speed tripling in the next few hours, but we're now getting maybe 70 mile an hour gusts here. We're right at the point where US 43 heads across the Peace River here. I'm just in front of

03:38 TV sucks. Hey, but we're supposed to deconstruct it. So I'm just trying to figure out where are we where are we going with this? Well, I can't come up with anything. I don't even know if I have any clips. I may have one wrap-up clip on the hurricane. Do I? Well, I have a couple clips. Let's play him and get that out of the way. Let's go to Bill Weir at CNN. Now, usually when there's an event like this we'll do a mock report. and let everyone know how phony this is. But these guys were actually in bad wind, the wind was not phony. But the fact that they're doing it, it's just so stupid. Oh look, it's windy, it's windy, oh I'm hongoling to a pipe, to a stop sign, oh it's windy, it's windy, it's just always windy.

04:32 Oh, I put a condom on my microphone because it's windy, windy, windy. Oh, this is a viral clip. She put a condom on the microphone. That's the stupidity that distracts from the pipeline wars. Anyway, Bill Weaher, who I think used to be a sports guy or is a sports guy, is out there and he does the inevitable. Ian is coming, Ian's here. John, we just felt a marked increase in wind speeds within the last 10 minutes or so. We were riding about 40, 50 miles an hour. It's hard to fathom that speed tripling in the next few hours, but we're now getting maybe 70 mile an hour gusts here. We're right at the point where US 43 heads across the Peace River here. I'm just in front of

05:15 the memorial for hurricane charlie which in 2004 devastated this town and sent a wake-up call to this community about the threats of living on the coast in a rapidly warming planet as a result of that storm they're the first community in florida to put in a climate adaptation plan a sea level coastal resiliency plan that they're you know have been working on for years now and this will be the test It's hard to build power lines or building codes for 17-foot storm surge, though. Crazy variable here right now. No one has ever seen that so we don't know what that looks like But this is exactly what? Climate scientists have been warning about for a long time and now we get to see how close John. Oh, man When did climate become weather all of a sudden? Oh when it's convenient. Oh, let's ask the weatherman

06:09 CNN and let's just pretend we're Don Lemon. Can you tell us what this is and what effect the climate change has on this phenomenon? We can come back and talk about climate change at a later time I want to focus on the here and now We think the rapid intensification is probably almost done there could be a little bit more intensification as it's still over the warm waters of the Eastern Gulf of Mexico, but I don't think we're gonna get any more rapid intensification If you look here, you can actually see pretty interesting for your viewers You can actually see a second eye wall forming around the inner eye wall and that's basically the second eye wall has overtaken the original eye wall

06:51 I got a climate change. Try it now. Yes, good, good. What? Fucker. It may be making storms worse, but to link it to any one event, I would caution against that. Okay, listen, I grew up there and these storms are intensifying. Something is causing them to intensify. Yes, good one, Don. I grew up there, they're intensifying, something's causing it. It's got to be climate change. By the way, there was actual audio from the control room. I like it.

07:40 And there's this odd clip which is kind of misplaced but I'm not sure what it is. I'd never heard of it. The Waffle House Index? Have you ever heard of the Waffle House Index? No. So I don't know if this is a... A native ad? I can't imagine Waffle House is jumping in on it other than maybe they're really trying to be a communications mechanism. Finally, the people who gauge a hurricane's threat in a very unique way. They call it the Waffle House Index. Hey, bruh, it's a category three. Man, let's see. What you wearing for? This morning, some people in Ian's path are using an unlikely guide to decide whether they should weather the storm. Bro, the Waffle House closed?

08:20 But let's get out of here, because we all know, bro, the Waffle House don't close, bro. The so-called Waffle House Index is a tried and true test for how serious a storm could be. And in Florida, at least 21 Waffle Houses have closed up shop as cities across the state are pummeled by Ian. They almost never close, but you can see they're closed. They even shuttered up the windows. The color-coded system was created by FEMA and is a simple way to visualize how hard the area will get hit. Green means the restaurant is fully operational, yellow means it's offering a limited menu, and red means closed. The government looks to Waffle House as a role model. Honestly, that explains a lot that's going on. And for a company that prides itself on staying open

09:02 How about that for a little insert, huh? Well, that explains what's going on. The government looks to Waffle House as a role model. Honestly, that explains a lot that's going on. And for a company that prides itself on staying open come rain or shine or hurricane strength winds... closing is a big deal. Waffle House has an emergency protocol better than anyone else. Even though the index isn't meant to be a serious tool for deciding whether or not to evacuate, the Waffle House CEO says that it can be a way to see how well an area is recovering after the storm. If we are on a limited menu, then you know there's some limited resources.

09:37 If we are closed, then you know it's pretty serious. But if we're open, you know the community is coming back. And that's the most important thing after a storm is to get that sense of normalcy of we made it through the storm and now we're getting back on our feet. Now, is this a native ad? Native ad or is it ABC setting up DeSantis so everyone can say, oh man, they're so stupid. They use the Waffle House index. That's why people are dead. I'm just looking for the political angle. It's there somewhere. It's too premature for that. And besides that, there's money to be made. Yeah, there's a lot of money to be made. I always think the money to be made is always going to take precedent over the political angle by these networks. Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely money to be made, for sure. Yeah, Waffle House gets a nice boost. Yeah. And everybody gets free meals there for the next few months. The guy did the report for sure. Yeah.

10:35 Do you have anything... Well this storm like the rest of them will blow over. Ay yi yi. How come you're not on the mainstream with those jokes? That's... You're really... You're fit for it. Yeah, you're right. Do you have anything on the pipelines? Because I would like to breeze through that briefly. Let me look. This is after all my... My beat. It's your thing. Yeah, that's why I didn't get anything. Did I even get a... No, I didn't get any pipeline stuff. Someone... retweeted a tweet that I tweeted, twatted in 2013. I forget exactly what the, uh, what the re, I was replying to someone, I said, nah, you're wrong. It's all about pipelines, all about the pipelines. And here we are. This is, this is very interesting. And I think I certainly missed it. Now I understand there's three pipelines. Yeah. Well, and the last one is the one that's kind of, they're not paying as much attention to, which is the one that's important.

11:32 Which is the new Baltic one which comes from Norway. Yes, let me take you through it first CBS Evening News. Tonight European leaders are accusing Russia of sabotaging two underwater gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea. Ukraine is calling it a terrorist attack. Authorities are investigating the leaks in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, a vital source of natural gas for Europe. There was a sudden drop in pressure on Monday. Video shows bubbles where the leaks occurred after underwater explosions were detected. I love... Why are they not using the words? Why aren't they using the words false flag? They used that all throughout the beginning of the Ukraine conflict war.

12:16 And now they have the perfect opportunity to say false flag and they're not doing it. I mean, they're saying the same thing. Oh yeah, Russia must have done that because that makes nothing but sense. But I just... It makes no sense. Of course it doesn't make any sense, but now I'm missing the false flag moniker, which is just not throwing in there for some reason. Well, who's... I don't know what you're talking about. It's nothing like a false flag. No, no, no. I understand that. But if you recall, when this kicked off in Ukraine, the main thing was Putin's gonna do a false flag. Putin's gonna do a... It's a false... He's gonna do a false flag. False flag. False flag. Don't you remember that?

12:54 No, actually I don't. It was over and over again. That's why... Okay, let's see if I... I might even have a supercut of it. Yeah, give us a clip. Give us a clip. Remind me. Newland. It is Russia that has prepared internal sabotage, destabilization, and false flag options for Ukraine. You remember now? Newland. You want a longer clip? Let's talk about operations within Ukraine. We've heard today that this idea of a false flag operation, Russia looking for a pretext to war. They want an excuse to invade, so you say. Well, this is straight out of the Russian playbook to try to... That's what I remember. ...through sabotage operations, through false flag operations. Okay. All right. You got me. I'm not unconvinced that this was going on.

13:44 But what is that with us? Those are all spokes holes. Yeah for the for the government. Yeah, you're playing clips now. They're from news news guy news people don't do that Okay, we may have clips of false flag. Okay. Anyway, I've heard no one use the term. That's just interesting because they that was why don't they say this is the playbook? How about that forget false flag? This is the playbook destroy their own infrastructure blame it on Ukraine go attack. I have my thinking on this. Well, hold on. First we do the cover story which is beautiful. Everything was timed, this was meant to happen with this news popping the next day or two. In a move that Europe hopes will ease its energy crisis, leaders have inaugurated a new pipeline delivering gas from Norway to Poland. The Polish Prime Minister was joined by counterparts from Denmark and Norway as well as EU representatives. It comes at a convenient time as Europe is trying desperately to find new energy sources

14:47 and after Denmark and Sweden's discovery of a massive leak on the Nord Stream pipeline. Today we are entering a new era, an era of energy sovereignty, of energy freedom and of enhanced security, one of energy security and also security in the broader sense of the word. This completion comes at a time of Russia's brutal war against Ukraine, and Russia's manipulation of gas supplies to destabilize our energy market and our economies. So today we in Europe together are sending a powerful message that Russia will not succeed. The project which has been completed ahead of time is an extension of an existing pipeline that will benefit mainly Poland but also neighboring states.

15:41 So, I don't think this pipeline is big enough to give Europe what they need. It seems to be okay. But I think this is cover. And all these clips of Newland and Biden saying, well, you know, if they invade Ukraine, there will be no Nord Stream 2. Am I mistaken in the memory that Nord Stream 2 didn't actually get, I mean, it got completed, but they never put anything through it ever? Well I was just listening to a clip on some, well going through clips, about how they, I think it was Newland, said they're never gonna finish this thing, we're just never gonna get approved, just never gonna get turned on. Right, but I mean the framing seems so perfect. It's too perfect. It's too perfect to blame the US. There's a lot of crazy information missing. One,

16:37 First of all, they had the tax on the two pipelines, one which is not, neither one is really operational. I guess one of them did. The other one had the turbine problem and Canada won't fix it. Yeah, so it wasn't doing anything. It was 30%. So okay, so they're running at low capacity. So there's stuff running through it. I don't know that Nord Stream 2 ever had anything running through it that's unclear. The other thing that's unclear is that now this morning's reports make it sound as if they that all three of the pipelines, the Baltic one coming in from Norway and the other two were all struck at the same time. But the reports of the two North Stream pipes came in and then the other one came in as an afterthought sometime later, like it was struck in some other incident. But they've now put it together to make it sound like it all happened at once. This is very poor reporting.

17:32 They don't have the guys who can go in there and dig around anymore because they're too busy sipping cappuccino or I don't know what they're doing. Well, their time in June, they don't have the money. The resources have been pulled from ever since these large corporations. This is my taking the side of the news organizations. Really? They took them so much money away from these guys that the bureaus don't have as much. You know, they used to have just tons of money to give these guys. And they could go out and do their own thing for six months and not report anything and then get a complete story. They don't have any of this going on anymore. It's just like sloppy, word of mouth, what did somebody tweet? Let's report that. Maybe that'll mean something. That always helps.

18:18 It's lost and they're all politicos, the only ones that can stick around for that kind of... And would you consider at all that maybe the news media is being directed not to go in certain places? Certainly you can imagine that. So here's another piece of the puzzle. NATO in... when was this? June 14th held Baltops, the Baltic Sea operation with the US Navy Sixth Fleet. And they were experimenting with explosives and ordnance removal off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, so the exact same spot. It all makes so much sense that I'm thinking, well, who benefits? It can't be this, I mean, this thing from Norway, and we have a, you know, our intelligence

19:10 apparatus has a very tight relationship with Norway. They got a big spy station up there that I don't know if it's ours or they're running it for us. So Norway will do anything and okay this is this was on its way they finished it a little bit early I don't know if it's actually pumping or not but there's one thing we forgot about. There's one pipeline that we have looked at for Well, eight or nine years would... and this is not coming up in the conversation. That's the EastMed pipeline. And this East Med pipeline is the one that the natural gas is off the coast of Israel and disputed area of Palestine. They've done their deal, they figured it out. This is noble energy, this is how it was the other one. Is the pipeline in play though? It's in play, of course it is. And not just through, well actually they're throwing it through Greece.

20:09 I don't know if that part is completed but I think this is what has this has to do with a lot of Italy as well because it's supposed to go from Greece to Italy which puts Queen Ursula's comments about Georgia what's her name Maroni Maloney in a little different context you know so maybe Italy now has your power Georgia maybe maybe Italy has some power I mean and it would make sense We benefit, but would we really do that with all this evidence? All of these sound bites, all these clips? Or did we have Mossad do it since they benefit also? No one has mentioned Mossad. Isn't that what these guys do best? And Mossad never gets mentioned. Well, I'm thinking they did this. Well, I don't know that Mossad's that good with... I mean the people that are the best probably at underwater demolitions I would suspect is the US Navy SEALs. You would think.

21:06 But we have a couple of them who are producers, so they'll give us their thoughts on it. But the benefactor of this is us, no matter what. We win. We're a benefactor no matter what. We would be, I think, a benefactor anyway, so what's the point of making, you know... That's why we didn't do it. I don't think we did it. I don't think we have the finesse anymore. Oh, well there you go. Now this is the finesse. Oh, well I have some clips coming later in the show that will kind of indicate this and let me do my rants but uh... Last clip on this is from Darren Beattie. He's uh, I think he's the editor of Revolver which I think is pretty good. And he has some thoughts

21:58 uh... but just yes interesting thoughts soft powers out where you were down to connecticut and economic warfare and both the nord stream pipelines have sustained severe physical damage which according to reports will make them inoperable for the foreseeable future all governments that have commented on this have said that this is an active sabotage and so the question is who benefits from this now of course US and NATO aligned organs are saying that somehow the Russians did this without any explanation about why that would be so. But as you point out, one political official from Poland who happens to be married to Anne Applebaum, who is a really a kind of royalty belonging to this Atlanticist

22:48 establishment. Incidentally, she was part of the Integrity Initiative, this secret influence operation group designed to condemn Russia and sabotage the pipeline. He had a mask off moment on Twitter when he actually thanked the United States showed a picture of this big disturbance in the water where the where the pipeline was and you know suggesting okay this is the work of the United States. Your girl and Applebaum. So this would be a distraction, false accusation for a purpose.

23:33 So you don't do that unless you have to kind of now deconstruct what the purpose might be. Why would you blame us? And I think you're correct, there's no reason for us to do it even though we had the skills to do it. Because we are, you know, we're gonna, it's really not, for one thing it's a crime against humanity and even though I think we do a few of those, I don't think this is one of them. Why would you then and was it in the Polish? I know this gets so damn thick with these spooks and phonies and Double dealers and every how about this? How about this? How about this?

24:16 We give the allu—no one's ever going to address this. We're never gonna say, yeah, we did it, we're not even gonna wink wink. It will kind of be almost a wink wink nudge nudge. All the evidence is there. Ann Applebaum is making sure that we're all, that, you know, and her husband, that we're all kind of assuming, well, you know, hey, Putin had come and, you know, we kind of did that, and it'll just go away. But then we can Cyber hack an electric grid we can blow up a pipeline here. This is the actual fault Maybe that's why they're not saying false flag. Maybe this is the set of it is a false. Yes. Here's Russia Retaliating for something that we didn't do but everyone thought we did I mean it's elaborate, but it's only two steps. I think they can handle it Elaborate yeah asking for trouble. Well the Apple bomb thing is what got me I

25:08 Yeah, it's an Apple bomb. Did you have a clip coming in the picture before? I don't remember you had clips. It was your clips Yeah, I had a bunch of clips of her. What was that? What was that? What was the food? Okay, let me see what the point was NPR propaganda and Apple bomb should we listen again since we're here? Let's play this night We turn out an Apple bomb the Pulitzer Prize winning historian has written about the current rise of populist authoritarian regimes around the world She's authored the introduction to the new folio society edition of Hannah Arendt's post-world war two classic the origins of totalitarianism that may seem especially resonant during these times of Russia's invasion of Ukraine Chinese mass detention centers and the insurrection of January 6 2021 All right, this is John proof. It's your clip How about an apple bomb on social media and was a

26:06 ask Adam. Actually, there's a lot of evidence that the kind of connection that you get from social media only makes you feel more lonely and isolated. You know, people talk about being on social media and feeling afterwards worse about themselves, worse about their relationships. And one of the things she writes about in her book is the way in which autocrats use loneliness. So they separate people from one another and that then makes it easier to dominate them because, you know, when people aren't able to act together when they're not active, when they're not participants in society, then they can't push back, they can't even think about the nature of the political reality that they live in. So what would the Ask Adam have been? I have no idea. Well here's the answer. And does it make us vulnerable to misinformation? Anyway, I don't know why I played those.

26:55 Well, I'm glad you did. Yeah. I mean, I like some of these old clips that remind us that this crap's been going on, it's under the surface, and it's got all kinds of bad actors every which way, everywhere. Apple has removed Russia's largest social network from the App Store in order to be compliant with Candidavia. Which sounds sketchy. It had nothing to do with our people telling me that. Wait, was it Candinavia or was it Australia? Let me see what it was. No, UK, I'm sorry. UK. Oh yeah, we always kowtow to whatever they want. Of course. Makes nothing but sense. Over in Russia, I understand the Russians call Ukraine New Landistan. Makes sense.

27:38 But here was the article that just, I mean multiple articles, nothing big, but reporting that the Russian Central Bank and Ministry of Finance agree on using Bitcoin or other crypto, but they seem to be pretty focused on Bitcoin for settlements, for payment settlements. And this has popped up not just in Bitcoin news, but I haven't seen it in the New York Times, so I'm a little sketchy on what exactly they said. But it would fit with my theory, which is, hey, you either have to shut down your plant or burn off the gas unnecessarily, or you could put it to use and start mining Bitcoin. It's just wishful thinking on my part, but there's now news articles about it. Yeah.

28:33 Well, I don't know how much of it they're going to have in the burn off because it's just they know it's just throwing money down the drain. But if you shut it down, remember to start it back up. It's throwing money down the drain. It's all throwing money down the drain. Well, that's why they could convert it into money. Well, I mean, they could get the amount of time would take to set up shop to make it work, especially with just burning tons of gas. You can drop. You can never be able to harness all of it. No, no. But you can drop containers in, they're good to go. These things are good to go. You can drop them in and they know how to do it. The knowledge is there and they fire it up. Why don't you set that up? Get a hold of Putin. Hey man, I'm just saying that it's a possibility. You don't have to get all, you know, like, what is that? Are you 12 now? Yeah, I'm 12. Okay, well then play some of your clips.

29:29 Well, I got a bunch of that, but we're gonna drop off the topic. We had I thought we were going in the direction of pipelines here. We just did. I did four clips on pipelines. More and more pipeline clips. Okay, I have a... Okay, I have some stuff here. I have Germany boots on the ground. about the pipelines. This is Andre and he's looked through all the newspapers and he says... Is one of our guys? He's one of our guys, yeah. One of our producers. All the articles in the big papers state 100% certainty it's sabotage, mostly using flowery phrases like, our fantasy cannot come up anymore with a scenario where this is not a targeted attack, blah blah.

30:13 Additionally, most articles make sure to say there was already no gas flowing through and now these mysterious leaks make it impossible to reopen the flow in the future. How convenient as people and industry organizations here are on the streets protesting and demanding the reopening of the gas faucets. As for the identity of the saboteurs themselves, the article present multiple possibilities. One, a Russian quote false flag operation to further push the gas prices up. That doesn't make sense. No, because the gas price... no. Yeah. They're not putting anything through now. Why would it do anything like that? Okay, go on. Another is Allies of Ukraine pointing out that with both Nord Stream pipelines broken, the gas route would have to go through Poland or Ukraine. There's your Poland.

30:59 I like that one. I like that too. Finally, most news articles come with a mini-map showing the leaks are between the Polish coast and Bornem, Denmark. I could not verify the three supposed leaks are located in international waters or not. Now here's the bonus from the Süddeutsche Zeitung and some freely translated pearls from the article. The Deutsche Umwelthilfe demands renouncement of using Christmas lights this winter. It should be self-evident, this is the direct translation, it should be a self-evident to renounce Christmas lights in cities, homes and apartments considering the war in Ukraine, the energy scarcity, but also for climate protection reasons. We should for once pause. Alone these private lighting orgies cause a yearly energy consumption of over 600 million kilowatt hours. An idea for an alternative.

31:53 Each shitty, each shitty, each city should only have one Christmas tree decorated with fairy lights! Fairy lights. to deliberately save energy and show solidarity that could make this Christmas a very special one. Yeah, dark. So that's the... I like that. That was a good report. He should give us more information as he goes along doing that exact same kind of analysis of the news. He also put in links and everything so it's in the show notes. Good job Andre. Good boots on the ground report. for sure. Okay, so now we can move on to some other stuff. Can we? I mean, I have Russia stuff. I mean, we need... Well, I was gonna take a break and do that because I have a bunch of these which kind of coincides it gets into Russia. Okay. But I did have a couple of what's wrong with these podcasts segments. And does that need to be done right now in our in our hot news break? Do you think this is an appropriate format change?

32:50 Well you can argue me out of it, but then I can switch over to listening to Biden with his rare-ish Jackie. This I think is for once something we need to discuss. What do you mean for once? We discuss Biden constantly. No we don't. Do you think this is really bad? Yeah, yeah, this is bad. Especially Jean-Oh, I got both. I got Jean-Pierre, Abdul, Kareem Abdul. Kareem Abdul, Jean-Pierre Van Damme. Yeah. So here's the damming clip. Where's Jackie? I don't think she wants to be here. Wow, why didn't you get the full clip a little longer? Well...

33:35 Because it... With... in context, it's funnier. No, that is the sub clip. Oh, I'm sorry. You... you gave... that was the punchline clip you played. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. The clip that you want is Biden hunger meeting. I screwed up, sorry. I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, Representative Jackie, are you here? Where's Jackie? I didn't think she was going to be here. To help make this a reality. Thanks to Senator Stabenow, Representative DeLauro for their leadership. Okay. Okay. The reason I had the sub clip because I wanted to play it after we played J'aime even though now I listened to that sub clip.

34:18 Is he so is he he is they did gave him no speedball. No They usually give him a speedball just power half power. They gave him this time. He didn't give me anything You think it was zero? I think it was zero and no coffee No, I I think this was probably they probably had already maxed him out and they had to pull back You're gonna kill the old man bill Okay, well then we go on exactly So this is Jean-Pierre's excuse, because somebody asked her about what the hell is he doing here? And let's play this sub clip one more time, because it's very clear that he's looking around, he says, where's Jackie? I thought she was supposed to be here. Play that one more time. Where's Jackie? I didn't think she was supposed to be here.

35:06 So he says, where's Jackie? I thought she was gonna be here and that's what he said. Now stop right there. In the main clip... Let's just listen to it again because this is now now it's pissing me off. In this main clip listen to what he does. I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, Representative Jackie, are you here? Where's Jackie? Now why does he do that? Why does he, why does he, why doesn't he say where's Cory Booker? Where's so-and-so? Is it because... Because they're right in front of him. Oh like he's like he wasn't looking at them he's reading the prompter.

35:48 I thought that it was weird. Oh you think it's a Okay, well now you bring in some you bring in a couple of interesting points especially the one that maybe he's being set up Yes, yes, whoever wrote yes, yes, and but I don't think he was reading but I personally I saw him read, I mean he's reading away and then he's also looking because that's how I spotted that woman the other day when he saw her in the audience if you remember he was reading from the prompter and saw this old 12 year old girlfriend of his. Yeah but that was okay. Yeah okay. And he was reading from a prompter and he saw her and he just glommed onto her and so I think he's reading the prompter but he knows these guys or they've seen him he wants to know where Jackie is she's

36:33 So as soon as he said Jackie because he does this he points and he looks at people he does stop. I'm gonna look at the video real quick. I'm gonna shut up. Let me look at the video. I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor and Senator Bond, Senator Booker, Representative Jackie, are you here? Where's Jackie? He the minute he says Representative Jackie, then he looks away. So he's reading something and And then, let me just see if it's the exact moment. It may be on the prompt. Let me see. Representative Jackie, are you here? Where's Jackie? I don't know why he does that. The prompter is at the back of the room. He's staring at the back of the room with that giant prompter. If he, if it was on the prompter, somebody would have reported it or taken a picture of the prompter. You would think. I would hope. Who the hell knows?

37:24 Those guys, I mean, they sat... you notice... There may be... well, for all we know, there's no audience. Right? And notice that the guys who always sabotage this sound are gone too, are heroes. I got rid of those guys. So, we... let's just assume that this was on the up and up and he was looking for Jackie and couldn't see her in the audience and went back to his spiel. That's hardly the same as this explanation from Jean-Pierre. for an audience member, a member of Congress who passed away last month and seemed to indicate she might be in the room. What do I have? So the president was, as you all know, you guys were watching today's event, a very important event on food insecurity. The president was naming the congressional champions on this issue and was acknowledging her incredible work. He had already planned to welcome Congresswoman's family.

38:22 To the White House on Friday, there will be a bill signing in her honor this coming Friday. So of course she was on his mind. She was of top of mind for the president. He very much looks forward to discussing her remarkable legacy of public service with them when he sees family this coming Friday. He said, Jackie, are you here? Where's Jackie? She must not be here. No, I totally understand. I just explained. She was on top of mind. You know, this wasn't what we were able to witness today and what the president was able to lift up in this at this conference at this event was how her her focus on wanting to deal with combat food insecurity in America. And this is something that he was lifting up and honoring. And again, he knows that he's going to see her family this coming Friday. There is a bill signing that's going to happen in renaming

39:17 a VA clinic in Indiana after the late congresswoman. He knows that he is going to see her family and she was a top of mind. Yeah, what she's saying is he was confused. Top of mind. Now, you know, this is how bad this woman is as a... She's not a good representative. You could have handled it the following way. So what happened with Biden when he said, look, where's Jackie? What happened? He thought Jackie was gonna be there. He forgot that she died. It's just, it's not uncommon. The guy's pretty busy. He's like giving speech after speech after speech. You could tell he was kind of tired. Give the guy a break, will ya? So, voila! Thank you for again putting my point up front. They're using this numbnut

40:02 Karine Abdul-Jean Pierre Van Damme to bring down the president because she you're absolutely right anyone here you you would do better than she does anybody would do better than this woman she's dumb and they know it and that's why she worked perfectly at MSNBC She's great at regurgitating whatever she's told and she's reading everything and she has the you know and and then Same cadence. She's a robot her cadence is terrible by the way. What are those plops in your clips? Did you make that or someone else? No, that's her cadence. No, no, there were plops in the clip. There was there was no I did nothing I just clipped it straight up. Well, there's something wrong with your clipping machine

40:44 machine. No, I just took it right, it was what it sounded like when it came across on C- there's a C-Span. Oh, that's how it sounds on C-Span? It was a C-Span clip that they posted so I think they may have edited it. Alright. No, I didn't say it's edited, it just it sounded, there was popping in it, really weird. That was weird, I know, I wasn't gonna take it out. But no, you might be Taking it to that level you might be right. She's just there to set set him up her own stupidity What I mean you are so much. You are so right you are so right the the truth the simple answer Hey, you know yeah, he was run ragged It's a big day. It's the big hunger conference. You know and and he just he just he just you know He got confused slip you never say just slipped his mind. Oh crap. Oh

41:31 You know, there was no recovering from that for him so he just kept on going. The guy's tired, sorry, he's been doing... exactly what you said. And of course, is he fit for the job? But now, now everyone knows he's not fit for the job because they won't even admit that he got confused. It's called the senior moment. Well, it couldn't have been worse handled worse. Yeah, so What up with that? Top of mind, top of mind, what a top of mind. Oh, he's honoring her. Top of mind. Bull crap. Top of mind.

42:07 We got a lot of dumb people in this Biden White House. Here is our Vice President Kamala Harris standing in the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea. So the United States shares a very important relationship which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea. Why stop? Why stop? We need a warning. Her droning voice, you know, it's amazing how bad it is. The way she speaks with the kind of tone that's that kind of weird, it's not monotone, but it's not modulating and it's slow like she's talking to a three-year-old. It's terrible. She's unbelievable. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Trigger warning.

42:57 Your attention please. Trigger warning has been activated. So the United States shares a very important relationship which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea and it is an alliance that is strong and enduring. Had you seen this clip? Did you hear her obvious gaffe? Strong and enduring. No, no, you didn't hear it. No, no, I'm just saying the way she said it. But no I didn't because I'm still listening to her cadence and I've realized what it is. This is the cadence of a stoner. Yes! I've said it before. Yes, yes, yes. You are right. This is the first time right there in the beginning you hear that she's stoned. Now listen to what she says, John. So the United States shares a very important relationship which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.

43:52 and it is an alliance that is strong and enduring. Did you hear it now? Yeah, she said we have an alliance with North Korea that's strong and enduring. She's stoned. Yes. Yes. But the beginning of it is where she's, I mean, she is, I don't know if she ever snaps out of it. She just starts stoned. Yes. I know how this goes. It's called wake and bake. It's a beautiful lifestyle. So the United States... There it is, right? The United States... Shares a very important relationship... Which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea. The Republic of North Korea... That's not embarrassing. I can't get over this. Hey man, I got a little confused.

44:50 You got anything left? Anything left to smoke? Hey man, hey are you holding? She must be doing edibles on the plane over. Hey man, does anything make good sense to you? Remember that one? Remember we used to do that? When the sensimilia was in? Does that make good sense to you? Wing wing nuh nuh? Alright since we're on idiots Did you see the the nerd orgasm that NASA had when they crashed that dart into the asteroid? I will say this. I don't have any clips of it. I watched the whole thing Oh, no, and by the way, the number one thing they said What was the number one phrase they used over and over and over and over? Oh, wow. Oh

45:36 Exactly. Hey, listen. Looks to me like we're headed straight in. Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Seven, six, four. Okay, the way it stopped. This sounds like a sex tape. Yes, that's what I said. The nerd orgasm. I never thought of clipping it because it was so dumb. But now that you played the clip, it sounds like a sex tape. Yes!

46:27 Coming in you know wow oh yes three two one oh wow Well I have to say it to your fair warning Okay, I have for all my ISOs for the end of show mixes. Oh wow all from this meeting, okay? Oh my goodness that was so fun. Oh wow oh wow man mmm Let's do a little... Okay, I can either do what's wrong... No, no, no. I want to do a great reset. I got a super cut. Okay, play it. This is the global media. The global media. So this is all around the world, also US. The response to Georgia. Maloney being elected and becoming the Prime Minister. First female Prime Minister.

47:27 uh... you may tell me to stop at any time. It's poised to welcome its first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini. A far-right leader set to take the lead in Italy for the first time since Benito Mussolini. Politics have been compared to that of Mussolini. The first far-right leader since Mussolini. The first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini. The first far-right leader since Mussolini. The first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini. The first far-right leader since Mussolini. right leader since Benito Mussolini. First far-right leader since Benito Mussolini. First leader from the far right since Mussolini. First far-right leader since Mussolini. First far-right leader since Benito Mussolini. First far-right leader since Mussolini. First far-right leader since Mussolini. First far-right

48:15 right right leader since Benito Mussolini. It's furthest right since Benito Mussolini. It's furthest right since Benito Mussolini. The most far-right leader since Benito Mussolini. The most far-right prime minister since Mussolini. The most far-right Italian prime minister since Benito Mussolini. The most far-right prime minister

48:59 since Mussolini. She's also set to become the most far-right Italian head of government since Benito Mussolini. And the most far-right Italian head of government since... Okay, you can stop now. Can we put the dots together, people? So Berlusconi, by the way, was a far-right leader. Yes. And he supports her. And so how come he wasn't compared to Benito Mussolini? Because he's got the tapes from the Boonga Boonga Party. So now, yeah this is bullcrap. So the point is that you... here's a problem. The number of people who watch that listen to the news that don't even know where Ukraine is don't know who Benito Mussolini is. It's not like Hitler. Hitler works.

49:48 Benito Mussolini does not work. I mean I used to always compare the way that Trump postured. Yeah but hold on, I think that's the reason is to do... they want to say the most far-right leader since Trump but they have to say since Mussolini and I think we had Mussolini and Trump comparisons. We did but nobody else did. We're the only ones, you and I. Don't think it was generally done by the media or anybody else. They just went on and on about as a Russian He's a Russian spy. They couldn't they couldn't keep mixing their messages In fact, I think on the big list of all the Trump flaws that I put out there right? You're right. I don't think Mussolini was listed. So what you're saying is this is not this is dumb It's stupid bad messaging is what you're saying. It's not a bad messaging, but it's so obviously coming from a central point You think?

50:39 I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Huh? Wow, John, you're really bright. Don't you think they're just all copying each other's homework or something? I don't know. How can that be centralized? That makes no sense. Everybody watches BBC, reads New York Times, and they're done. Yeah, that's it. You just do whatever they say. They say Benito Mussolini, you say Benito Mussolini. I look at the Dutch papers every single morning and you can see copy paste straight straight up copy paste little translate of course in the Dutch. It must be great to be a reporter in Europe. Oh, I just got up. Let's see.

51:19 What is New York? Oh no. How about this? I'm gonna go to bed, darling. I just have to copy the news for tomorrow. Copy and paste. They get perks that are unlike our perks over here. We have certain ethical things you have to deal with. No? No, not in Europe. I used to go to Seabit a lot and some of these other European events. That's in Germany? I'd meet up with my compatriots that work the media over there and they just laugh at us because we don't get all the freebies they get. Like what? What kind of freebies? Oh, they get every weekend is some trip that somebody's putting on. Codex used to be one of the big junket companies in Europe, not here.

52:03 And they used to give these guys, you know, here, come on, you got something to do this weekend, let's go do this. And then they'd take everybody to some event and then they'd give them a bunch of cameras. It's just all kinds, it was like a goldmine. What are we doing wrong? Clearly. All right, I'll just go through just a few more. First of all, may I say, just in general, kind of looking at what happened in the financial markets, can we say that maybe The Queen's death was indeed the kickoff of the Great Reset because we get bombing, we get kinetic war with pipe sabotage.

52:47 We've got the markets just going crazy and then not just the markets but then the pound. Elsewhere the British pound dropped to an all-time low against the dollar after the UK's finance minister announced plans for the largest tax cut in 50 years in an effort to boost their economic growth. I mean, you get the new prime minister, I think a new chancellor of the Exchequer. Everybody's gonna be new and she doesn't seem to be any good. No, but of course this is horrible. They dropped a pound to a buck, I guess. Buck or one, I think. Yeah. It's back up to ten. Which is like the time to go to England is when the pound is like this. Because I remember when I was a kid, I told this to Horowitz on the last show. When I was a kid, I remember a moment when the pound was $2. Yeah? Oh yeah. It was $2 after the war and I think it stayed $2 a long time. Then it kind of gravitated and kind of stuck at about between a buck 45 and a buck 60. The Dutch Gilder was $5.

53:47 When is it now? Well, it's non-existent because it became the euro. Oh, that's right, it became a euro. But it was two guilders to the euro. Holland's prices doubled overnight basically when they implemented that. The same thing happened in Italy when they did it. Yes. The price in Italy was skyrocketed because of the way they did the conversion. And everybody bitch and moaned about it and said, well, I don't know. Because, you know, they all settled out eventually. But let me tell you, I recall working for Mevio. I was probably still Pacho. And I was commuting back and forth. And so my main domicile was in London.

54:30 But the pound was so strong and kept getting stronger and stronger and stronger, I couldn't pay my rent at a certain point. Check it out, but check it out. So I went to Bloom and I said, man, you got to pay me in pounds. I mean, I can't do it. It was really crazy. Go look at it. It was there was some big moves, like multiple dimes worth of moves. And it was it was making it. I literally just didn't have enough money to pay for stuff. And I said, OK, so you got to change that. We did. And then, it's like the pound dropped like crazy and I was living on a high horse. I never told anybody about that part. It was dynamite. So, you know, you got expats, Americans. I like it. You're screwing your own company. Meanwhile, back at the ranch. Well, on Wall Street, the recent slide in stock showed no signs of slowing as the Dow dropped more than 300 points and entered into a bear market down 20 percent from its high in January.

55:25 Then we get... It went up today, so much of the signs are slowing. Well, the dollar is weakening. The euro is back up to almost 98. The pound is, I think, 110 now. They're back, so they're recovering. What are the odds Soros was in the other side of this trade somewhere? Oh, definitely. You know, I mean, didn't it look like a massive short? That's all he did. That's his job. But why isn't he getting credit for this one, like he did for the last time? I think he doesn't want because he didn't break. He didn't actually break the bank this time Anyways, things are heating up in the central bank digital currency Talks in the European Union and I know that our Fed chairman Powell said yeah, we're looking at it Maybe three years for the US. Okay, but in the in the EU's it looks like they're moving a little faster and she was interviewed for the Atlantic Council and she revealed

56:20 really something interesting about how the Central Bank of Europe views the use of it, how they're going to try and sell it to us basically. She revealed that in this interview. I really want to talk also about one more last thing, the digital era. We're here for the rest of the day now. By the way, what is up with this Peshmina that she has draped over one shoulder like she's part of Starfleet command that has a sash? I just you just did it right there that's that's it. It's it's it's really annoying because and she carries herself like Madame Lagarde the honorable Madame Lagarde look at my pashmina sash everybody. Well certainly for the benefit of our audience I am a bit puzzled why don't we already have a digital you?

57:10 I only pay I never pay with cash only pays for digital money. What is the central bank digital cash? So do you think that was a setup question? I Already have digital. Why do we why do we need one? Madame Lagarde? All right to keep it super simple I would say that it's it's a digital banknote with a little less anonymity than the paper banknote. Oh, okay, okay because it is Issued, guaranteed by the central bank. Am I saying that banknotes will disappear? No. Do you know what is the first thing that we found out when we did the first survey and sort of client testing?

58:00 We found that all those who are interested in a digital euro, that would be a central bank guaranteed payment system, peer-to-peer and otherwise, they say that the one thing that we really care about is privacy. Which apparently there's a little less of. And privacy I think has been I mean there are countries in Europe which have suffered from lack of privacy and these countries are particularly attached to their privacy. But second I think there have been enough scandals in the last few years of companies that have collected data

58:44 through payments notably and otherwise and that have monetized those data by selling databases by producing artificially intelligence produced in-depth analysis of you me and others and they don't want that so you know I think it's in addition to being the sort of central bank guaranteed digital banknote it's also a digital payment that should be available if people want it. If Europeans don't want it, then we shouldn't go there. But we should be ready if they want it.

59:24 Because we provide the guarantee that those data will never be exploited for commercial purposes. I'm gonna stop right here. So the pitch that she's making here to the question, why do I need, I have credit cards, I have Venmo, I've got all the, why do I need the digital euro? Her pitch is, oh, because They are spying on you, they track everything you do up, true of course, they have an entire profile of you as a digital profile, all completely true. And then she goes and she says, now you won't have that with the central bank digital currency. And maybe this is just her misspeaking, but she says, those data will never be made available. I mean, if she has those data, why is she doing it?

1:00:16 I mean if you're just, I mean so are they doing profiles of people and they won't share that with companies? So what you're saying, I'm gonna try to rephrase what you're asking me. If the data won't be shared Why are you collecting it in the first place? Or even turning it into a profile. But yes, why are you even collecting it in the first place? Why are you collecting it in the first place if this is going to be so safe and secure and it's never going to be shared? So why collect it? What's the point? What's the point of collecting it? Well, the way she finishes up, and this is almost done,

1:00:52 It almost sounds like she's willing to sell it. So, you know, I think it's in addition to being the sort of central bank guaranteed digital banknote, it's also a digital payment that should be available if people want it. You know, if Europeans don't want it, then we shouldn't go there, but we should be ready if they want it, because we provide the guarantee that those data will never be exploited for commercial purposes. Whether people pay to buy their bread or they pay to buy their cars or what kind of what she gave it away Yes Yeah, I'll play that bit here. Here we go. It's all payments that should be available if people want it, you know if If Europeans don't want it, then we shouldn't go there, but we should be ready if they want it. You mean that part?

1:01:47 No, no. The data will never be available for commercial purposes. Yes. Because we provide the guarantee that those data will never be exploited for commercial purposes. Whether people pay to buy their bread. So now she's telling us what they're going to be tracking. So this is the data that will never be made available for commercial purposes. And here's some examples of what we'll know about you. Never be exploited for commercial purposes. Whether people pay to buy their bread or they pay to buy their cars or what kind of medicine they purchase, what kind of frequency they go to hospital is none of our business as central banks. It can be the business of private sector data collectors who happen to find out lots of interesting things about us. This is not the business of a central bank and it should never be.

1:02:45 I think you're right. And she just told us she knows very well what they're going to be collecting. The follow-up question would immediately be, okay, well it's not the business of the central bank, is it the business of the government? Is it the business of the tax collector, the revenuers? Is it the business of the spooks of the various intelligence agencies? Is it their business? I think it's kind of their business, isn't it? It's just they're not commercial. You're not selling it to them, he's giving it to them. Is that what's gonna end up? Yes. Christine? By the way, I have these two photos. I'm gonna try to remember to put them in the next newsletter. Of Christine Lagarde? The Christine Lagarde pictures that the Americans see and the ones that the RT uses. I'll bet they're really nice. Oh man! Does that woman have wrinkles or what? That's why you're supposed to look at the Peshmina.

1:03:43 It's like a Deborah Birx thing. It's really annoying. You're probably right. It's to distract you because if you see some of these real pictures, she is... Yeah. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Okay, let's see what else. So amidst this, since we're talking about this sector, stories now, maybe a trial balloon, White House mulling potential Janet Yellen departure after midterms. She was just interviewed on a show. I didn't get any clips from it. I didn't get a lot I got a lot of clips, but I didn't get any of these that we're talking about now you were listening to podcast that irks you she was interviewed recently on some screwball thing and She seems like she's got a foot out the door seems to me. I

1:04:35 Yeah, but Why I mean wouldn't they want the dumb job nobody likes these some of these? Do you think she wants out or she being kicked out? What do you think it is? I think she wants out. Yeah There are thousands and thousands of Syrian refugees Getting ready to enter Greece through Turkey. You see the videos of this I did not and it has a name has a codename Hold on a second. It's called What's this called? Well, I saw a thousand. I could have been the same B-roll to show for the thousands and thousands of Russians. Yeah, but there's Georgia. Now there's like the Guardian. I mean, this is real reporting. It's just not really bubbling to the top because Turkey. But this is Erdogan. What did they call that thing? It's like the golden wind or something. Something horrible that you don't want. Some wind. I can't find it. It has some weird name.

1:05:33 Yeah, so they're gonna trounce through Turkey and then I guess keep on, you know, through Greece and then keep going I presume. But Greece can't... Oh, Caravan of Light. There it is. The Caravan of Light. The Caravan of Light. Wow, that's a good one. Yeah, it sounds like Erdogan would come up with that one. Yeah. Caravan of Light. Give me a break. And what else do we have on the... Did you, kind of going back to Georgia, did you see her roast Macron? I mean like really really roast him? No. Okay, I only have a subtitled version. Yeah that's the problem we can't get some... But I'll read along. Her stuff is dynamite. I'll read along. Okay here we go. Okay. I'll read along. Emmanuel Macron.

1:06:27 She's like, huh. Emmanuel Macron described us as disgusting, cynics and irresponsible about her party, of course. And here the Italian press began to ask, did you hear what Macron said about us? He said, we're irresponsible. What a shame. The irresponsible Emmanuel Macron are those who bombed Libya because they were concerned that Italy would obtain important energy concessions with Gaddafi and left us facing the chaos of illegal immigration we are facing now. The cynics, Emmanuel Macron, are the French who send the gendarmerie to return any immigrant trying to cross the border in Ventimiglia. And most of all, and because things have to be said, disgusting. She says something here that's not translated.

1:07:25 I don't know what she's doing. This is not translated. She probably said she has a small penis. Next line. Yeah, he's real small. Disgusting as France that continues to exploit Africa by printing money to 14 African countries, charging them mint fees. and by children labour in the mines and by extracting raw materials as is happening in Niger, where France extracts 30% of the uranium it needs to run its nuclear reactors while 90% of Niger's population lives without electricity. Do not come to teach us lessons, Macron! The Africans are abandoning their continent because of you! The solution is not to transfer Africans to Europe but to liberate Africa from some Europeans!

1:08:20 God, this is really funny. We will not accept lessons from you, is that clear? Macron! Hey, I thought that was pretty good as a... That's, she's just, you know, it's about time somebody spoke up. Yeah. Yeah, she's gonna be trouble. She's a troublemaker. You can just tell. Never boring moment. She likes the adulation. The Italians love her because she is, she likes to shoot from the hip. She's on fire. Or from the shoulder as Biden would say. She's on fire, man. Yeah, I'm not gonna argue that. Okay, now let's just compare that 28 second clip to one of our politicians back here in America.

1:09:04 You tell me which one you'd prefer. You just heard George Yamaloni. Here's New York City Mayor Adams. We have a brand. New York has a brand. And when people see it, it means something. You know, when we go there, it's not, Kansas doesn't have a brand. When you go there, okay, you're from Kansas. No, well, you know what? But New York has a brand. It has a brand.

1:09:43 What? This guy. And now that there's that black guy who can do his voice kind of only makes it even worse his whiny voice of the man. You mean our guy? Our producer? Is it our guy who's doing it? Our producer has done end of show mixes with Eric Adams. With that... His voice is dynamite. It does him on... I mean it's... I wish I could get that cadence. He's got a... Eric Adams is an idiot. It's just who knew? I think it's Sir Michael Anthony. Let me see. Nah, you're gonna chill, New York City. Supreme Court judge who thinks he's the mayor told me, the best mayor on the globe, that I can't force a jibby jab on the pro-pro. That's our guy. That's our Sir Michael Anthony. Yeah, that's our guy. He's good. He's very good. You should take that on the road. Get on some shows with it. You should take that on the road.

1:10:35 Take it on the road, Michael. Take it on the road with that comedian, Elsie, what is her name, who does Kamala? Oh, the blonde girl who does Kamala? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they could do a show together. She's hilarious. They could do a show together, it'd be great. She listens to the show. She was blonde girl who does Camila listen clips of saying Camila saying she loves the no agenda showing a stoned voice. There you go. All right Do you want to write a script because it has to be When it's the best podcast of the universe the universe being universal where we all come together to be universally entertained by the podcast as the podcast which is the something like that. Can you write that I

1:11:20 And I can write something, probably not that. Okay, here we go. I'm gonna give you, this is an Ask Adams, what's wrong with these podcasts segment. Ready? I'm ready! Now I got four of them listed, right? Mm-hmm. Now you gotta be careful you play the right one. This is the one you're gonna play, and don't start playing it. Nope. New show, guess who won? New show, guess who won? And I want you to listen to this clip and tell me Who this is. Alright, so she's got this new podcast she's doing on New York for New York magazine because she got I guess booted from the one from New York New York Times I think she had no what she's got listen. This is my hate listen this woman, so I know a lot about it She said it was time to part ways

1:12:32 Yeah, she means she got a booty. So I- Because they don't like lesbians. They don't like lesbians. This first one came out this Monday and I caught it right away. Me too. Knowing that this is so important to you so you can keep up. John, I heard the podcast. I listened to the whole thing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Now I got some what's wrong with this podcast issues. Everything. Everything. Okay, before you get into it, Here's so I hate listen to pivot a man. There was some extraordinary hate to be had there this week But then of course I caught the on it with Kara Swisher and she starts off her first news first episode of the new show By saying hi everybody. It's Ben Shapiro with my little dick and I've got the clip I don't have to do it not believe she did that. Ah, here it is. Which one is it to?

1:13:25 Yep, okay number two. Thank you to slack for supporting the launch of my new show Sure than the name in the ads, but slack also supports us by making our work more efficient It's really where all of ox does its work from launching iconic ways that still number one. Yes still number one what happened there? Sorry It's on. Hi everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is The Ben Shapiro Show with 100% less LDE. That would be Little Dick Energy, obviously. Just kidding, not about the Little Dick Energy. I'm Cara Swisher and this is the first episode of On with Cara Swisher. And I'm Naeem Araza. I've been producing Cara for years and now I'm getting a promotion. I'm bumped up to sidekick. I am the goose to your maverick. You know what happens to goose.

1:14:11 He dies. Yes, but for now talk to me, Bruce, as Maverick likes to say. There you go. Thank you for my moment in the sunlight, Kara. It's just a moment. Before you off me. I'm going to. Go ahead. Yeah, so, you know, her promos. This was baffling to me. I'm kind of happy you brought this because, you know, I hated it so much even I couldn't bring myself to clip it. No, you would never do this. Well, I know I'm going to be clipping from her in the future. Yeah, but you are gonna do this. No, I was not. I was going to maybe mention if it came up and I'm glad you had the clip. Some of her promos were like, hi, this is Joe Rogan with a new show. Oh, just kidding. It's Kara Swisher. So she's communicating... What is the point of that? She's communicating two things. One, she is doing a show similar where she has an interview

1:14:56 with a long interview with someone, although it's only an hour. Big deal. Golly, I've never heard of such a thing. Stop the presses. She is so irked. She's like an Air America disc jockey. She's so irked that these two assholes, Joe Rogan and the little dick energy of Ben Shapiro, that they have huge audiences. Please watch me. I'm Kara Swisher. Now here's the other thing besides that by the way is in poor form this very poor I we would not do no we would have said no, but that's a burn We're burning back to tape. Let's start over Kara. Just do a normal. Hey, this is great I'll just try to put everybody else down as you are and then she had Chris Cuomo on who ran circles around her and

1:15:47 Yeah, I did. Believe me, I didn't cut. All I got is just the what's wrong part, which is the Chris Cuomo, who the hell cares? But I want to play part three and then I want to actually play this part three and in advance I'm going to tell you what I think is wrong. You can't have two people, because she brought her sidekick to be, no, she brought her producer to be the sidekick, because not everybody wants to be in front of the camera, right? So she brought this other woman out. At some point, on and off, if you listen to it- Oh, you watch the video? No. If you listen to it, I said. If you listen to it, you can't, if you see the video, it'd be better, if they have a video. I don't know. But they sound like the same person.

1:16:35 You have to, if you're gonna do a, this is a tip for podcasters out there. If you're hanging out with somebody all the time, you start sounding like them, you can't do a podcast with them. Just like Glenn Beck, by the way. He's got those three guys, they all sound like Glenn Beck. Yes, I'm gonna stop you there. This is, what you're saying you should not do is something that radio guys have done since the early 80s. I'm gonna say Scott Shannon's the first one who did it. Z100 in New York. He hired Ross Britton and every other guy that he's hired as a sidekick who sounds enough like him that if, and he's told me this straight up, if Scott's not there either for one break or something or even for a whole show, the audience is not immediately tuning out because they hear a wildly different voice and that's why Glenn Beck does it too.

1:17:29 Now why care an 80 why Kara Swisher does this I have no idea well I find it annoying and even when Beck was doing his radio show and he had these he had this one guy in particular that was always on the show with him like a sidekick still does the To of a talk and I go I don't know who the hell is talking here this woman Because she's hanging out. They're in the same mill you she's starting to sound like her She doesn't sound completely like her, but she's sounding too close and when you listen to this she does something else else because she must be aware of this because she keeps saying like if I'm talking to you Adam Curry and I blah blah blah Adam Curry yeah why I don't you don't do that unless you're trying to make it clear that you're identifying that you're not Adam Curry yeah you don't even like me saying John on the show we don't I find it poor form for people to keep referring to it because you don't do that in real life oh I do that all the time Tina come on Tina

1:18:29 You know, you never, I had never heard you say it. You always say darling. Don't pull the trigger. You're always saying, don't pull the trigger. Yeah, Tina's when she's got the gun, that's when they'll do it. So let's listen to this part three. I do say darling to her. That is what I say. You say darling. Go on, part three. Trump has all but declared he's running in 2024 and the Queen has died, which is unrelated to the two items above, but in some way who could blame her? Have you enjoyed your time off, your summer vacations, Karis Wisher? I don't vacation, Naima. I ran a major tech conference, Code, I interviewed 16 people and major people in two days and then I've been traveling and I've done tons of interviews. I don't take vacations. I was there, I was on stage with you in my yellow suit. Yes. I love that, by the way, Karis Wisher, you always need everyone to know, I'm Karis Wisher and I don't take holidays.

1:19:15 Yeah, I cringed at this as well. I'm like, oh really? Oh, you don't take... She's a millionaire, multi-millionaire, probably mainly by divorce, but she's done quite well with her conferences and once she got away from the Wall Street Journal and was able to set it up herself. She's set for life, but she really thinks she's all that and a bag of chips. She tweeted... I tweet back at her all the time. I hate her. I might as well try to reach her. I do and she's a you know coming up the first episode of the pod So I read and I replied yeah replies it. Please don't call it pod and her reply. I will always Oh, please. Well, you know who you can got under her skin. I got under her break in broadcasting Oh Don't tell me it's Leo Laporte me. Oh

1:20:11 Silicon Spin. Great show everybody. Nice talking to you. John, John, John, really? You gave her the break and break. As far as I know she's never been on the air before. You're two for two man. You got Natalie Del Conte Morris and you got Kara Swisher. Well done John. Coach to the douchebags. There's others, believe me. Coach to the women we hate. What is going on? No, that's not true because Jen Briney is a runaway success. You knocked it out of the park with her. Knocked it out of the park. So, I knocked it out of the park with all of them in essence. Okay, we're going to go to part two of what's wrong with these podcasts. I want you to guess

1:20:56 You probably... Wait, part two? What do you mean? Part two is the second second. This is called WWWTP Another Oh No One. Now don't start it. Okay. This is, I want you to guess who's doing this podcast. Can I start it? Yep. I'm just seeing if I can guess it from that alone. No. Decades ago, a quote was carved into a marble wall at headquarters. And ye shall know the truth, it reads, and the truth shall make you free. This is the CIA podcast. Now I just remembered, it was, I wouldn't have known if I didn't know they had a podcast and at the very end it was the slogan of the CIA. Is that the CIA podcast? Yes, this is episode one. Yes, how bad does that suck? Oh brother. So they brought on for their first interview, first of all there's these two

1:22:00 Do you have more clips of this? Yes, but I had to switch the nomenclature. Can I just say one thing about this podcast? In gross violation of I think all standards and practices, they are using Transistor as their hosting company. You know, I'm the podfather, I know stuff. That's a French company. They are hosting this at a French company. Yep. Okay, you knew that? I knew this wasn't kosher. Something's up here. Okay, what are we doing? What do you got? So we're going to move to what the whole podcast was about, which was an interview with William Burns. And so let's go to the clip's Bill Burns interview. Now who is Bill Burns? He is the head, the honcho of the CIA, former, he's got a really spooky background even though he says he never was in the CIA, but he was

1:22:55 ambassador to Russia, he's been all over the Middle East, he speaks fluently. Episode one, guest one? Yeah. Huh. You'd think that in typical fashion you'd have the director of the CIA on or you know maybe roll out Brennan to say you know if you smell guilty you're guilty something like that? No. Okay. Can I start? Well no, Bill Burns is the director of the CIA. Oh, that's what I said. Okay, I didn't understand. You said... Yeah, no, I said Bill Burns is... This guy's spooky. He's been a spook all his life. Well, yeah, William Burns, CIA director. But they brought him on and it turns out the guy is not entertaining. And

1:23:40 And neither are these two people that are just doing the podcast. They're so giddy about it. Nor is the music. Oh, the music, not only that, but they had a trailer with different music with the same opening, which was worse. But anyway, so here we go. D&I couldn't be more excited and honored. All right, everybody. Hold on a second. That's a good start. Let's try that again and really sound like you're excited. OK, let's try that again. Let's try it again. D&I couldn't be more excited and honored to sit down on this debut episode with CIA Director Bill Burns. Hello, sir. Thank you so much for joining us today. Well, it's great to be with you guys. Do they identify themselves by their name? Is it like, I'm Special Agent Burns, I'm Special Agent Pete or whatever? Or is it just hosts? Are you playing Clip 2? You didn't tell me to play Clip 2. No, I mean, you should be playing Bill Burns' interview with no number.

1:24:40 Yeah, that's what I was playing. Okay. Yeah. What's the length on that one? 220. It's long. 220? 221? Yeah, okay. Okay, play it. D&I couldn't be more excited and honored to sit down on this debut episode with CIA Director Bill Burns. Hello, sir. Thank you so much for joining us today. It's great to be with you guys and you're right. Intelligence agencies are supposed to collect secrets and keep them and not talk too much about them. We do usually operate in the shadows out of sight and out of mind. Our successes are often obscured or failures are often painfully visible and our sacrifices are often unknown.

1:25:18 But a certain amount of discretion certainly comes with the territory. We have a profound obligation to protect agents and officers who risk their lives in support of our mission, which is to help protect Americans. But I'm convinced, as I know you are, that in our democracy, where trust in institutions is in such short supply, that it's important to try to explain ourselves as best we can and to demystify a little bit of what we do. So that's why I'm glad you're launching this podcast and glad to be with you. And that's a great word to use, the demystify word. All of a sudden it turned into a great podcast. And what we are trying to do is just that, is we think that by engaging a little bit more with the public, we can kind of help to lessen some of those misconceptions that many do have of us. So thank you for that.

1:26:17 Oh, agreed. And actually, sir, we want to ask you, what do you think are some of the biggest misconceptions that people have about the CIA? Well, I should start by saying that I love spy movies. But one big misconception that a lot of those really entertaining movies feed is that intelligence in real life It's just a glamorous world of solo operators, the world of James Bond and Jason Bourne and Jack Ryan, the world of heroic individuals who drive fast cars and defuse bombs and solve world crises all on their own every day. That, I have to tell you, is a constant source of amusement for my wife and daughters. They never cease to remind me that I don't exactly fit that image, since I'm most comfortable driving our 2013 Subaru Outback at posted speed limits, and that for me, at least the height of technological daring is when I can finally get the Roku remote to work at home. Oh, brother!

1:27:14 So, first of all, the CIA mission used to be informally, jump out of airplanes, save the world. Here on the CIA.gov website, he said their mission is to protect Americans. No! At the CIA, our mission is to preempt threats and further U.S. national security objectives by collecting foreign intelligence that matters, producing objective all-source analysis, conducting effective covert action as directed by the president, and safeguarding the secrets that help keep our nation safe. So it's just not true what he said. Surprise.

1:27:55 Yeah, there's a buddy. I don't have all this interview obviously even though the podcast is fairly short at 17 minutes Oh really that's their idea of a podcast yeah, yeah, and but does I get one more clip from him and He gives away a lot of information that I don't know if he... What's the point of telling everyone he drives a Subaru? I don't know. What's the point of saying he uses a road-keeping? Not sure. Because the wife drives the Subaru and if it's a hit, she's not gonna get him. Yeah, could be. And then he goes on... He also talks about his 21 overseas missions, which is a detail I don't think was...

1:28:33 important to anything and maybe less was misinformation. What was he telling us this stuff for? Let me ask you something maybe differently. Is this not just another part of the uncloaking? You know, now they're uncloaking. Now we're going to talk. Now CIA is coming to the front. Everybody's, they're all coming back. All the Obama people are all showing up. And now the CIA has been real quiet for a long time. Now they're doing a podcast. I mean, that can't be overlooked. Well, I think there's... Is this a recruiting tool or is it just a... I think it's a couple of things. I'm not sure what it is. It's not good, apparently. And the idea is if they're doing their job, I should have no clue why they're doing this. Yes. But they're doing it. I think it's just a swage, personally. The woke element that they brought into the agency as a front.

1:29:31 And this is just their, okay, this is their nod to these idiots. And they're gonna, okay, we'll do it. I'll be the guy, you interview me. And they're gonna probably do five of these maybe, if that. And that'll be it, they'll be done. And they say, well nobody listened. And by the way, nobody is going to listen because no matter where they put it, it's posted only on the CIA.gov site that I can find. I know this is it. This is it. So this is pretty much the deal. So let's listen to the court. Hold on one second. Bill is married to Agnes Brown? Mother of Scotland's national poet Robert Burns what now that can't be that can't be right. That's gotta be a different you get some somebody that's connected to his it's connected is Wikipedia all right part two

1:30:16 The truth is that intelligence is very much a team sport. It's a profession of hard collective work and shared risks and remarkable common dedication. Every day, our officers are doing hard jobs in hard places around the world. Every day we're recruiting agents and collecting information on the plans and the intentions and the capabilities of our adversaries. Every day our scientists and technologists and Digital specialists are developing new tools to help us compete with those adversaries. Every day, our analysts are sifting through all that information and studying the global landscape to try to produce the best insights that we can to help the president make the best policy choices that he can. Basically, they do what we do.

1:31:06 Except they haven't figured out how to do a make a podcast out of it yet. We do the same thing We look around we might around people give us reports to put out we get reports we get people put it together We use technology and then but now instead now we turn it into a podcast you turn it and you weaponize it for political reasons Yeah, we don't do that. That's for sure. No, so that led me to this. Oh, oh Which is the Grin Green Road. Yes. You have these clips. No, no I do not have these clips. I saw it. Let me tell you what happened. I had it ready to clip. I saw your clips come in. I'm like, oh he has it.

1:31:46 Yeah, I do have it. So you got it. So Greenwald was on the Rising Sun or whatever the hell the name of this rising or whatever it is. The hills are rising, the rising. No, no, but it's the spin-off to what the two guys, you know, Crystal Ball and Rising. Yes. And Seegar. Yes. They went off to do their own podcast and they're making money and the hill people aren't. Hill people zero. So they had Snowden on and Snowden brought up some new stuff and new information has come to light. And I thought it was fascinating. His interpretation may or may not be on the money, but it's definitely worth listening to what he had to say about mostly about

1:32:31 Trump. FBI and the Justice Department and the White House hate Snowden and Assange, and therefore they just reflect reflexively those same biases. That is what these media outlets are for. Wait a minute, that went too fast for me. What did he exactly say there?

1:33:08 The discussion was about, oh, this discussion rambled. It went from here to there to there. Of course, it's the rising. What do you expect? Because, well, it's because anything with Greenwald. He's too long. He's too long. He's long. He's long-winded. Yes. And by the way, I took this, I just took this clip off the end of his long discussion of the of what's wrong with the media, which is that they're beholden to CIA, FBI, and these sources that feed him stuff and they just regurgitate it for the public. Now what does that have to do with Snowden though? I don't understand. Well it led into the Snowden discussion about him not getting his extradition, not his extradition but his pardon from Trump. But I needed that at the beginning because that

1:33:58 tells you that the media is in the bag and they're not gonna help and the whole thing the whole thing is it was rigged it was fixed and here's where he continues. Can I just play that first clip again just so I can hear it now? context and the reason why media outlets dislike Snowden and Assange and so many people like them even though those people are the ones enabling journalists to do the job they claim they're there to do is because their sources inside the CIA and the FBI and the Justice Department and the White House hate Snowden and Assange and therefore they just reflect reflexively those same biases that is what these media outlets are for okay all right I get we'll continue with clip two

1:34:41 He had to transit through Moscow on his way to Havana and the Obama administration led by Joe Biden did everything possible to block him from leaving Moscow. Ben Rhodes boasted, bragged in his own book about he called the Cubans and said, if you want us to let this embargo, if you want to have better relations with us, you better not do anything to help Edward Snowden get out of Moscow because if you do, there'll be no political space to do it. The reason he's in Russia isn't because he chose to be, it's because the Obama administration forced him to be precisely so that they could turn around and get morons to think, oh well if he's in Russia he must be a Kremlin spy. And now he's a citizen. Yeah this brings up a lot of possibilities. I put that as more background. I agree. I agree. It's not a big deal. That's just more background to the choice clip which is next.

1:35:37 And that is the problem is it was the Trump administration considering actively pardoning Snowden. I think it was one of Trump's more cowardly moves not to have done that. The reason he didn't was because the second impeachment trial was hanging over his head and Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham made clear, Mitch McConnell, if you pardon Snowden, we're gonna vote for your own impeachment. But he didn't and now The Biden administration was a part of the Obama administration is continuing this repressive attack on whistleblowers that led to Snowden not being able to come back to the United States in the first place. Yeah, I had never heard that before, Glenn, that there was a threat.

1:36:13 from Rubio and Graham and some of the more hawkish pro-security state Republicans to potentially vote to convict Trump in that impeachment hearing over Snowden. Just explain that a little bit more to me because that's a new piece of information for me. This is great so it's the Chippendale and the turtle. So you have the turtle, you have the Chippendale, you have Lindsey Graham. Lady G! And you have to remember that Rubio's on the Intelligence Committee. Yeah. And we have to always remember, we also have to remember or recall the fact that the FBI is what was always

1:36:57 primarily used for it did it does work they do stuff I think Rubio Rubio because he is on the Intel committee I think Rubio is a real problem he's a Rubio Rubio's compromise I think the FBI's got pictures of both Graham and Rubio with a dick in their mouth to be blunt about it. Geez I mean I would never say something like that. Yeah you would. No. But there's something wrong with this picture that these two guys, especially, I mean Graham we know is just a phony, lives at home with his mom still as far as I know. No, that's serious. Yeah. And yeah, last time we came to the conversation, it was during the Trump administration, it came out that he lived at home with his mom.

1:37:47 I mean you could have said tube smoking. I mean anything would have been better than that. Oh you're but no I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Tube smoking. I don't want to be vague. This is what they get the photo of and so these guys can't They're useless as representatives of the US public. You're making a mistake. Marco's mom lives with him, you see. Don't you understand? She lives with me, okay? It's not Marco that lives with his mom, it's Lindsay. Oh, Lindsay. Oh, same. Lady G. Lindy Hop, please. No, no, Marco is Rubio. Who knows who he lives with or what.

1:38:29 But it's pathetic because he was a runner for he was gonna try to use Trent going for president and he was compromised He's obviously compromised if this story is even remotely true and Lindsey we know is totally compromised because he sways with the wind and sways other ways and Yard a roll John C. Keep it going. I'm sorry you I shouldn't say your name. Hey you you're on a roll you so So, this story is...and Trump should have known better. He said, well, because you still need 75 yes votes to get the impeachment. I think if it came down to it, a lot of Democrats would pull back on it because nobody wants to impeach the president. Because the second impeachment was over the phone call, the perfect phone call. So, I mean, that was dumb. But if those guys came over to Trump and said, look, well, let's play...there's a little more information here coming up. Let's go to part four.

1:39:24 Yeah, so you know obviously I was somebody who was working very actively both publicly advocating but also in private doing everything I could to secure a pardon for both Assange and Snowden, Snowden being my source and Assange being someone I regard as heroic and there was real movement inside the Trump administration to give particularly Snowden a pardon. It came much closer to Snowden than they did to Assange And if you think about it, why would they have initiated an impeachment proceeding against a president who within a couple of weeks was on his way out? And the reason, Crystal, was that they were very afraid that on his way out, Trump was going to do a bunch of stuff.

1:40:04 including not just giving pardons to Snowden and Assange, but also declassify all kinds of documents he had been threatening to declassify about the CIA, about the Kennedy assassination. And the only leverage they had against Trump doing what they considered crazy stuff on his way out was the second impeachment trial. And they explicitly communicated to Trump, multiple Republican kind of hawkish senators did, that if you do what we know you're thinking about doing, what Ram Paul and Matt Gaetz and others were encouraging him to do, which was pardon Snowden, that will severely jeopardize your chances of getting out of this impeachment trial with an acquittal. And that was the kind of sword of Damocles hanging over his head during that transition. Wow. Does that relate

1:40:48 to the documents that he then takes to Mar-a-Lago, because there's some reporting that the documents that he took there were, you know, related to Russiagate. They were things that, you know, he had flirted with declassifying before, but didn't for whatever reason. Do you know if there's a connect there? What I know for sure is that Trump was threatening to declassify all of those documents relating to Russiagate because Trump believes, I think with a lot of validity, that there were crimes committed or at least ethical transgressions committed during the 2016 election to create and manufacture Russiagate. It came out of the CIA.

1:41:23 And I don't know exactly which documents he took. Nobody really knows exactly which documents he took, but it certainly seems to align with everything I knew at the time, which was that Trump wanted those documents public, had the power to declassify them, and now his defense is that he did. Man, that's not bad for Crystal. No, not bad at all. And what's interesting is you listen to this and then if you go back to the CIA podcast and listen to Bill continue, he goes on about how important it is to be nonpartisan and blah blah blah. I may should have clipped that part too because it's just like, what? Are you kidding me? Especially after the Russian, and the more recent stuff with the Hunter Biden laptop and the

1:42:14 All the intel agency heads going, oh it looks like a Russian deal to me. I mean it's got all the earmarks of a Russian hoax. You know these guys are into it up to their neck. It's actually kind of protected. They're not doing the public a service. No, and do you think that they're gonna fix this with a podcast? I know what we'll do, Bill! The podcast is what I'm pretty sure I said it was, which is just an assuage product for the woke newbies. Nah, I'm down with that. Wow, that's pretty explosive. So Rubio, so the Chippendale and the Turtle. Those guys, huh? That doesn't... And the lady.

1:42:51 And the lady, who's the lady? Lady G. No, and the lady, I'm sorry, I keep forgetting the third wheel of the village people. Unbelievable! Wow. Good on crystal ball there. There's nothing to deconstruct. I mean, I can't even give clip of the day because it was just, they did the work. They did. And with that I'd like to thank you. Well actually Greenwald did the work. He did the work. I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the C in the Chippendale and the turtle ladies and gentlemen please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John C. DeBora. And the lady.

1:43:29 And good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, our ship's seat boots on the ground, feeding the air, stepping into the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there. And in the morning to the trolls in the troll room who have been diligently hanging out. You've handed me a couple of good ones today, trolls. I like that. Appreciate that. The troll room and trollroom.io is where you can log in, you can check it out, you can talk, troll, do whatever, listen. You'll be listening live to the stream so you can hear the show on Thursdays and Sundays, but it's 24-7. There's always a reason to go in there. And I don't think we can ever run out of space there, which is pretty good. Let's give him a little count. 1971. 1971. Same as last week. Very stable. Stable, stable count. Now did you tell me after the last week or the last show that you saw a seven car Zephyr?

1:44:20 Or six. Oh yeah. Was it a seven or a six? You're bringing it up. The Zephyr for the last couple of weeks has only been seven cars as opposed to the normal eight. And the Holiday nine, which is missed. But there's been seven cars. There was one eight car Zephyr, but it doesn't count as an eight car Zephyr because the last car was actually a private car. And it was one of the nice ones. So it was still seven cars ever with a private car on the end. But it's been running 7777 consistently. You should have given us a report because we could have predicted the market to collapse. Maybe, maybe. I'm just saying. I'm sorry for the trolls who I counted too harshly. I guess they have sensitive ears if you pat them along. Sorry about that.

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1:46:02 Well, what's hot is that a thing popped up on my screen that I thought was only on the other computer, but yet here it is. And that was? Well, I just closed it so I can't tell you what it was. Okay, I'm glad we stopped for that. Well, you're the one that stopped. 1989 was titled Sophistries or Sophistries Choice. Which was quite appropriate. The pun. And the art was by the one and only OG of the Art Generator himself, Sir Paul Couture. Yeah. Brought us a beautiful... Now this was a complex image which always gets... I mean if it's a beautiful piece and it's complex, that always gets our eye. But he had some good things in there. He had a hooey-hooey. He had like a hooey-hooey

1:46:52 Cheesecake girl. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna have to say something about Paul Couture's art. And it's not always this way, but he does some of the best emblem art. He's the one who did the original challenge coins. Challenge coins, yep. That's why he's good at it, yeah. And he's good at doing, and I think he should be put aside as a name to, like if you need something like, even like a coin, a real coin design or a symbol or something that's round and needs a badge, a button. Charles, King Charles should call him for the coin, for his coin. A button. Anything that is that is got it just like this is this that's a style of art Yeah, he's good that he's really nailed he can do it and so every time he does one of these things Even though in this case. It's not a perfectly symmetrical piece because you got the cheesecake on there, but generally speaking It's this stuff's dynamite. It's dynamite

1:47:47 Logos if you get to give you any matter needs a logo get a hold of it. That's it It's the logo logos do a low. He'll do a logo for five grand. It'll knock your socks off. All right There you go. I'm Agenting for him and you know what? I'm thinking that's the kind of value we got out of it Just think about the art generator itself the value that he's put into the show by by setting this up and maintaining it through several horrible code changes from headless Drupal and to whatever we're running on now. PHP. Thank you very much, Sir Paul. Fantastic work. We appreciate you so much. A couple other things that were here on the noagendaartgenerator.com, which you can always be refreshing during the show. There's new art there for this episode already. There wasn't really... I kind of like Dame Kenny Ben's Hui Hui cassette. It was nice, but it was small.

1:48:42 Yeah, I couldn't read it. It was small, guns for granny, didn't quite work. There was an interesting Sir Net Ned, but it was humpty dumpty economy and there wasn't really anything that we talked about, I don't think in that regard. We had more Yacinda hooey-hooeys. Was that, we already had that dollar, right? With your head on it you already had that one was that was that for this show? I can't remember from correct a record. I don't think that was for this past show was it? Uh, oh no that no it was for the last show. I mentioned on the show that I wanted a copy of the art but I'd never heard from him. We didn't get a big offering. Mike Riley came in with uh

1:49:29 I mean, it's beautifully drawn, but I just don't know if we should put two big nipples on the artwork. It's a great piece, but it wasn't clear. It looks a lot like he took the head from the... what's the boy's name and family guy? Yeah, it's Chris. Chris. It looks like Chris. It's the same colors. Anyway, thank you very much, Sir Paul Couture. We appreciate very much that you do this. Before we move on, I just wanted to say this is a Value for Value podcast. We coined the phrase, we have kind of invented and refined the entire format over the past 15 years. Big 15 coming up 26th of October. And the Value for Value really is

1:50:19 In my opinion the only way to go with media just because of all the problems that advertising brings along with it And you know, I've now identified that there is an actual podcast industrial complex, which is quite small Big in numbers. There's no billion dollars in advertising running through podcasting. I'm sorry I'm not seeing it as people double counting with NPR and other things or you know, I heart radio And, you know, unbelievably, Bloomberg came out with a story yesterday. Did you see this about podcasters? I probably did. So the headline is kind of incorrect, but the headline says, podcasters are buying millions of listeners through mobile game ads. Oh, yeah, I did read this piece. You sent it to me. Yes, because I wanted to discuss it briefly. But it's not podcasters. It's iHeartRadio.

1:51:12 And so they've been buying six million downloads a month through a mobile game where, you know, in order to get some digital goodie you have to listen to at least 20 seconds of a podcast, which, and here comes the unbelievable part, is the exact length that needs to be played in order for the IAB, the Interactive Advertising Bureau, to consider that a full download listen to play by a human being. Scam. Since 2018 they've been doing this. They spent over $10 million. I'm surprised advertisers put up with any of this. It's such horse crap. And then the IAB has fallen right in line. I mean, excuse me, I'm thinking of the era in the 80s when all these magazines had their labs, computer magazines all had these labs and they were doing testing of this and that.

1:52:15 And the first thing that people started to do was game the testing. So there was some, there was also a thing called the Chang modification where somebody, some Chinese kid, had put a circuit on a Pentium and if you ran it through any of these speed tests, how fast is this computer? It would pin the needle. It was like, holy mackerel, nothing's this fast. How did this kid do it? I think I remember this. Yeah, it was, I kind of publicized it a bit more than I should have. Did he like snip a diode or something simple like that? No, he did something, no, it was an outside circuit because you can't really snip a diode on a Pentium. No. But,

1:52:57 But then we started running into it, PC Magazine, we started running into these people, and I can name the name of the company, I think they're still in business, but there was one company in particular that would cheat. This is by the way, this is all pre a prelude to what happened with Volkswagen diesels and all these diesels Where when the computer in the car said I think we're being tested bill. Oh, okay Let's turn down everything so it looks like we get good numbers and then when the test is over we'll go back to normal there was graphics cards that were pulling the same stunt and

1:53:33 So if it suspected a test or it saw a test coming its way, it would just jack up its own numbers. And it was there get these huge numbers. We had one guy in the lab, unfortunately, and he's a pretty good friend of mine who caught wind of this trick and made a state's case out of it. He was just on a rampage to get these guys not allowed to advertise or anything in between, which wasn't going to happen. I can tell you right now. But yeah scams and that's what you're talking about in fact I know a number of podcasting companies that did similar things well also Yes, I do too, and then and I just wanted to point out that there's an industry in Silicon Valley Not just for podcasts, but for clicks for signups for Inquiries whatever you need

1:54:24 If the price that an advertiser will pay is $27 CPM, so for every 1,000 impressions, clicks, whatever it is, $27, they will come to CEOs and say, And usually around the end of the month, the end of the quarter, or before a funding event, or a board meeting, and they'll say, listen, we got some here for $25 CPM. So you've got the arbitrage in the middle there, $2, you look like a genius. And they spin it up, and it's pretty much undetectable for a long time. They change continuously. They have names like Monopoly. They're usually game companies or mobile games. People are just making money off of,

1:55:07 They're part of the scam. It's a giant scam. It's a giant scam and the advertisers that play along or they, I don't know what they're thinking, they're fooling themselves. Well the IAB has responded to this and said yeah no those are valid plays. It's 20 seconds. Well, they've been sold out then. Of course they sold out. And they charge every hosting company who wants to be certified by them $50,000 just to get their phony baloney numbers. 20 seconds does not a podcast make. 20 minutes barely. Well, CIA podcast.

1:55:54 We've been doing our own little analysis on some numbers and I do have, I just want to see what kind of apps are used. Somewhere out there, John, there is one guy or gal, I'm not sure, who I would like to focus our spotlight on because there's still one person out there who listens to the No Agenda show on a Zoom. You think so? No, I know so. I saw, we tracked it. There's about eight people who use the Roku But that one Zune, the one lone Zune listener, I'm impressed. How does he get it? What does he do? Record it off the... I don't know. Put it on the Zune? No, the Zune. And how would you know? The Zune's... because the Zune has a... you know, every podcast, every player, every download shows where it's coming from. So there's a Zune user, which was a great product by the way. One user, one. It had better fidelity than the Apple.

1:56:53 Which again, you know, Betamax versus VHS, same thing. It doesn't matter, who cares? I mean, people who get their two earbuds in their ears, they got the thing cranked up to the max, they listen to lousy music that's poorly recorded, why do they care about the quality of the sound? But yeah, it's interesting. I think I still have a Zune in the collection somewhere. Yeah, let me see, we have Pocket Cast is real high for us, Podcast Addict. But then we get antenna pod Cast box all kinds of cool ones fountain overcast But the Roku's in there people are we're on Roku. Yeah, we have the guy come corresponds with us once Well, they got maintains that Roku code. It's dynamite because I bitched about it once on the show saying yeah He fixed it the next day

1:57:45 I assume he's still looking at it. And there you go. So, value for value seems to be a much more honest way. We love being at the mercy of God. It's definitely the most honest way, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, we love being at your mercy. It's much better that way. Much, much better. Yeah, you just bail out and we're done. Keeps me on my toes, tell you that. All right, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers who have supported the show. Kicking it off with Gene Harris and I'm looking to see, did you find anything from Gene? Yes, I did old stuff, but not this.

1:58:23 That is so... I have a number of letters from Gene who sent in things now and again and it's like, uh... I don't even have them here. I have, uh... I got one from Iowa Swine Day from August 16th, a contribution. Here's another one of his donations, July 9th. I got that. I got nothing that's recent. I don't either. And so it's kind of out of character for him, but here we go. Gene Harris from Winter Park, Florida. Wait, is Winter Park in the path? Could he be a matter of fact it is crap. I hope he's I believe winter park. Oh wait winter park Oh, no winter parks on I'm trying to visualize the map in my hip face. I think it's so The Fort Lauderdale that would be on the other coast. Okay, that's closer to our land. Okay. All right well, we don't have a note from Eugene, but thank you for your one eight. Oh eight one donation

1:59:20 So on one oh, so clearly it's it's boobs squeezed by sticks I don't know what it is. It's a big giant floppy ones that are to the side. But we we do appreciate you ma'am. Well, we'll read your note when we get it. Yeah, of course. Let's give him a double up for now while we have him here. You've got karma. So we have Brent Young's up at 666 in Los Angeles, California, which is obviously the number you would provide us if you're from Los Angeles. If you're from Los Angeles, absolutely. Hollywood producer Brent Young, he writes, please accept this check. He writes with huge letters and a lot of flourish. Very difficult to read. Please accept this check.

2:00:19 and that is woefully inadequate or delinquent. Delinquent, he needs a de-douching. Oh, we got that. You've been de-douched. Then he has some word I can't read and he says my favorite jingle is chemtrails. So to play at the end. My serious are biting up, acting up, something up like crazy, my sciatica. Sciatic nerve maybe? Maybe sciatic or I don't know, which heads me for defined there is shift or shit. Cirrhosis, it's cirrhosis. Cirrhosis, whoa. I think cirrhosis is spelled with a C if I'm not mistaken. He's got it spelled with an S.

2:01:16 There is blah blah blah in something thang air thin air. Thang air the air. Viva la no agenda. Brett the Hollywood Knight. Now he is a Hollywood Knight, our Brett. Okay yes he obviously is. Yeah because he's not asking for it. I'm looking at his IMDB. Which is quite extensive going back to 2006. He has done a lot of shorts He has done some documentaries. He's done several spongebob squarepants Productions I can see that from his writing. Yeah Donkey live. Let me see. Was there anything else? This is that's it. That's director and let's just check because soon we will have a producer credit in here and

2:02:03 The Lost Temple, Flight of the Dragon, documentary, flying over, a lot of documentaries. Well maybe it's a different guy because there's about 40 Brent Youngs in the IMDB. Okay, we'll find out. He's gonna have to send us his... I mean you can't just claim that, we need some proof bro. I think he can claim whatever he wants. For 666 bucks you can be the Queen of England. I need one of the chemtrails. Chemtrails. And a de-douching? Did we give him the de-douching? Yeah, we gave him the de-douching. Okay, chemtrails, I guess that's it. H.J. Smit in Utrecht, the Netherlands, 334. Adam, I sent you an email with show note 1490. That's not how you're supposed to do donations. John, would you like to explain? Yes, I will explain once again for everyone.

2:02:59 The word donation has to be in the subject line and then we find them that way. Otherwise, Adam gets two, three hundred pieces of email a day. I know I get four hundred. And we just, if it doesn't say donation, we can just do a sort and boom, there's all the donations in one spot. We can look at them. But I have them. I have them here. He has been found. In the morning, Adam, loved the show since 2009. Some suggestions and questions. One, I donate one dollar more so as not to evoke Corazon, the Middle East demon. So instead of 333, 334, what is this Corazon, the Mideast demon? Do we have any idea what that is? No, but I think he's negated by the dot 33. Yeah, exactly. He says, believe me, you don't want him showing up. Well, thanks for protecting us. Two, Adam, please be kind to the Germans. What?

2:04:01 They've been guilt-ridden by the war and Hollywood hounds them till this day. The truth about the war is protected by law in many countries. That's injustice by itself. Are we mean to Germans? No, I don't think so. We ride them about they're stealing the bikes from the Hollanders. But that's about it. This says as much about the Dutch as it does about the Germans. No, man. We love our German producers. All of them, of course. And many have been around for a long time. Sorry. In fact, didn't we do a report earlier? I think it may be because of the German accent. Maybe they don't like that. Yeah, but you're...

2:04:41 main accent is the Dutch accent, which is the better one. Adam, you return a polite message. John ignores emails. That's not true. What emails do you want to receive aside from show notes? John, I guess it's for you. Well, I'd say donation in the subject line would be good if it has to do with a donation. If it has to do with some boots on the ground report that you want us to look at, I recommend and Adam agrees that you send them, you get one of us to start taking them, not both because then we will, I think Adam will get this one. Oh, I think John will get this one, never gets picked up.

2:05:24 I don't know, just write more interesting headlines, subject lines to get my attention. I have no idea. And I will say that a lot of people have gotten into the habit of just cop or just forwarding Twitter to Adam. Oh, it's a Twitter thing for that. Oh, it's a for that. Oh, and from some people, I get 10 emails on a show day morning, one after another. You're just going through Twitter and emailing me. Please tag me on Twitter. That's the appropriate place. There's no reason to email me a Twitter link. There really isn't. I look at Twitter in my inbox specifically and then but and so when you email that it's too much. If you have emailed me three times in a row like just boom boom boom you're doing too much. Think about the hundreds of pieces because I read everything I have to process it so don't wear down your podcaster.

2:06:20 Four, what happened to the PR associates? I received that title but others did stellar work in promoting the show and I guess they have not. Yeah, what happened to PR associate? Is that a credit that has since gone by the wayside? Well, now that you mention it, I guess it has. I don't remember, yeah. What was the level for PR associates? I don't think there was one. Well, that probably, you've been around a long time, that probably morphed into hit him in the mouth, I'm thinking. Anyway, says if you have plans to come over let us know the dollar is pricey and the no agenda community is large and friendly. Yeah, we can we can we can party with our dollar over there John while stocks last. Yeah, if you can get over and back that's the problem. Actually Horowitz and I discussed the great possibilities of going to the UK at this rate of the pound sterling.

2:07:12 And it's like, yeah, and then you get stuck over there or they do a lockdown. I mean, it's just... Oh, yeah, you don't want that. It's horrible to even contemplate. I mean, even just... You haven't traveled in the last, I don't know... Two years. Two years. It's been horrific. I hate it. You know, I took my first flying lesson for the instrument rating on Tuesday. I'm going to fly myself. I'm sick of this shit. Yeah, okay. Well... What? Okay, well, it's an expensive exercise when it's not necessary or shouldn't be necessary because our civil aviation system should be able to take us to London, you know, out of San Francisco non-stop without a hitch with good service on board and not a bunch of maniacs running around or anything in between. And we shouldn't have to worry about coming and going but now we because of these

2:08:08 Because of the companies themselves who fired all their people because they wouldn't get vaccinated and all the rest of it We end up with this mess and it's not just the pilots, you know Heathrow has limited flights He said a hundred thousand passengers a day. That's it go away It's people's doing the same the aviation system is in collapse It's can't be they brought it on themselves and then they moaning about they're lying about it. They're not they're not being truthful. I Yeah, that's true too. Anyway, Hendrik does end up by suggesting two World War II documentaries. One is Hitler, the greatest story never told, bet that's a doozy, and Europa, the last battle. So you can look for those on odyssey.com. Daniel, Daniel first in Kuckinow, Wisconsin

2:09:03 ITM, my sister Nikki Shrek hit me in the mouth on Mother's Day of 2021 and I've been an avid listener ever since. I know my city's a doozy and they should know how to pronounce it. You were so close last show. You got it, Kaukana. I would look at it as Hawaiian. If it's Hawaiian, I think it'd be Kaukana. Because they pronounce pretty much every who is really And she needs a d d douching You've been d douched And that's it yeah, okay, we move on to Adam Cineground Cineground I think Cineground sounds about right Kensington, Kansas Kansas don't have a brand

2:09:55 333.33 in the morning. I did pretty good on that. My friend Jordan Detmer hit me in the mouth around June of 2020 as we were starting to realize how big a sham the COVID pandemic was. I had recently turned 40 and thought I'd do some numerology donation to celebrate, but life kept getting in the way. Anyway, he writes it that way, Jordan along with nine others are traveling from Kansas to take in Oktoberfest Fredericksburg Texas style. Well, that's great. That's this weekend. Hopefully we'll run into the podfather. That is very possible. And we'll be driving on Thursday, so an ideal time to get my first of many donations in. For jingles, I'd like, he says, planes bad, trains good. It is in fact trains good, planes bad. Listen to that horn, he wants a little foamer action. And respects from Rev Al, followed by, oh man, we're going all the way, aren't we? Followed by Manning with some, you're gonna need a Bitcoin. Okay, we got all those for you.

2:10:56 And some millennial air horn karma. Oh goodness. I didn't get that one air Air horn you asking for a lot just a little bit was it millennial millennial karma. We had one Jimmy just gonna you're just gonna get some you're just gonna get some air horn all aboard trains good planes bad Oh my god Listen to that horn! R-E-S-P-I-C-T They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin. So I'm gonna put this one in. This is $356 from the Too Hot Tucson meetup which came in an express mail. Yeah, they have a meetup report today.

2:12:01 Good well then I just a few people to thank on here Brian for a hundred bucks and Dame Beth for a hundred they all the other ones are under and They did not designate a selected executive producer, which they've been doing recently. You pick one out of your group and make them executive producers. So I would say, dealing with a full enough name is Dame Beth. So I would put her on the list at, why don't you just go Dame Beth and Brian. As the top donors and we just make them the executive producers for this donation Dame Beth and Brian. That's it That's yeah, it's suffices. Okay, and oops. Let me spell that right? Okay good. We got that. Well, thanks y'all We love that when you do that at a meetup. That's really appreciated

2:12:51 Then we have the Indy Meetup, same thing. This is the whole Indy Meetup. $240 from Indianapolis, Indy-an-ee-an-ee-oh. Switcheroo donation of $240 from the September Indy NA Tribal Meetup Raffle. Plus another... You skipped Ev-ev-ev-ev-Gweenie Demaskini. Oh, I was doing... Oh, I see. I'm sorry. I thought that was the switcheroo. Mistake I didn't know you were putting this one. Okay. Now. This was 356. That's was right Okay, so I don't have a note so but that was Brian and what it was for Dame Beth and Beth and Brian Beth and this and even Greenie is a associate executive producer 250 and gets a double of karma You've got

2:13:43 Now we got the Indy Meetup from Indianapolis 240. Switcheroo donation from the September Indy NA Tribal Meetup raffle plus another $99.33 from Sir Fodfather. Two title $333.33 for an executive producership for his wife Doreen Tattnall. I don't understand how this math works but I guess somewhere down below he has the $99.33 which I don't see. So what do we do here? So this is designated an associate executive producer or not. That's very confusing. So this is yeah, it would be Doreen Tatnell. She just gets it. Yes. She says a Doreen opts for no comments in favor of a double up karma. Okay, we'll give her that one then you've got but then we do have then of course, then of course the rest of the group has a bunch of

2:14:41 Bunch of jingles, bunch of jingles. You know what you have done? 69! 69, dudes! I think that sounds pretty good. Yay! A little story to tell. We did it all for them, yes. Okay. Uh, okay. Now we're on to Joseph Finley in Louisville, Ohio. 23456 please make it known to join Dame Tunces the data queen and myself sir Walkman for the hui hui hui hui in Traverse City So they have another meetup in Michigan. They're just reminding us to go there if you're a Michiganian, all right James Carlson 225 associate executive producer from Denver. I have nothing. Do you have a note from James Carlson?

2:15:33 Let's see what I got. It feels like we're missing some notes. Yeah, a lot of notes that came in. Now I got nothing. Okay, another double up karma. Send us a note if you got one, James. You've got karma. Sir Jeremy Chumfady, aka Philip Smith in Oakville, Ontario, Canada, 2222, That's a row of ducks. Yep. ITM John and Ami believes my birthday is on a show day. I must donate. Stay safe! Stay safe! Sir Jeremy Chumfady, aka Philip Smith, Oakville, Candanavia. Alright.

2:16:14 And that's our last guy is another fairly short list of executive and associate executive producers for show 1490. Thank you all for supporting us, execs, associate execs alike. We love to thank our producers. It's part of the loop, part of how it works, part of how we built this podcast together in the Value for Value universe. It is the new international lifestyle. More about it here. Dvorak.org slash N-A-S-L-A-C. Thank you again to all our execs and associates for producing 1490. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave.

2:17:06 As you were making those comments, I thought of some lyrics for one of our songwriters, song producers. Using the tune of We Built This City, rock and roll, we built this podcast on V for V. We built this podcast. We built this podcast on value for value. Built this podcast. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, maybe we could do something from this millennium. Since that is from 1985? No one knows that song anymore. It's got a good sound though. Grace Slick is barely... She's still alive. I know, I know. I used to hang out with her. She's like an old woman. She's always bitching about stuff. Get her on the TV once in a while. She's very nice. I don't know these kids!

2:17:59 These kids! Her daughter Chyna was a VJ when I was on MTV. She would, you know, kind of off, on, not always. And Chyna was really sweet. But Grace would come in all the time and she was funny. I liked her a lot. She was no-nonsense. She would say exactly what she thought. She was cool. She was cool. She is cool, I guess. Still cashing checks. I wonder how big they are. I don't know about that. Okay, I'll tell you this much just as a little interesting aside. Roger McGuinn and I are pretty good friends. Yes, I correspond with Roger. And he, I don't know how much money he makes because he's a writer so he gets ass-capped royalties. But it's the only thing he won't tell me. Now why would he?

2:18:49 I think it'd be kind of, you know, interesting. Well, it is none of my business, but it would be nice to know. I can't imagine. Is it a lot? Is it a ton? It seems like a lot of money. I think some of these guys get a good check every so often. Well, I mean, at this point, there's not really sales, so it's going to be your radio, airplay and streaming. I would think at this point... See, that's the problem. You're just guessing. I would like to know. And Grace Slick would be the one I'd love to know if she still gets an ASCAP check. We need somebody that works in the offices writing checks. That's the problem, is that the money never really goes to the artist. It goes in this big black hole called ASCAP or maybe BMI and they don't even know. They always have to sue everybody all the time. It's a scheisse business. It's a bad business. All right.

2:19:45 Primetime Purge was cancelled. It was supposed to be last night, I believe. They were going to do yet another very revealing, fantastic primetime court drama where we would see exactly how Trump should be arrested and thrown in the brig. I think they cancelled because of the hurricane. They wanted, like, we're not going to get attention. So that's probably why they're probably right, but that doesn't matter because the m5 and be below the fold the The m5m has already told us where we're at. This is a supercut and It's you would listen to this and luckily people just are kind of not watching cable news anymore This is mainly cable news, but not all of it and this is just irresponsible

2:20:33 This means war. That is where we are. We are at war with these people. These folks are evil. There is an ultra-right MAGA contention in this country that wants to overthrow the US government. It is a danger to our democracy. It is a danger to our way of life. The MAGA movement is a threat. The extremists that we're dealing with every single day, we've got to kill and confront that movement. Clearly, you know, this is a literally call to arms. Obviously Republicans I think are the biggest threat to democracy. We don't separate right wing extremists and Republican Party anymore. I see this as a party, a MAGA party that no longer is confident that they can win elections with votes. And so now they're seeking to enact their political will.

2:21:22 through violence. This is literally what conservative white folks do when they don't get their way. They turn violent. Today's GOP is no longer a political movement. It is a fascist movement. And this is why it could be more dangerous than 1860 or the 1930s. Clearly, you know, this is a literally call to arms. Maybe now it is. all about the violence, it all is about an insurrection, it all is in his mind about a civil war. It feels like we are not just at the brink of a civil war but that one has already begun. The fact that the base is getting smaller, it makes it more dangerous in a lot of ways because those are the people who are willing to do things like take up arms and press the questions that lead to, press the questions and tactics that lead to civil war. This is someone who held that office

2:22:09 who is basically saying to Americans there should be civil war. Look at what he's doing last night as you know that. You know more or less salutes that are either queuing on or almost look like Nazism you saw the rally in Ohio the other night Trump is there ranting and raving for more than an hour and you have these rows of young men with their arms raised these crazed deranged folks who want to impart evil in every facet of our society I mean What are they doing?

2:22:46 Are they just providing cover for what's gonna happen? Or are they trying to rile people up? Or are they just talking crap? Because this is really... This is going a bit far, I think. I would say. Now, what was the... Where did this supercut come from? This is from all over the place. Yeah. Huh. That's a good one. Yeah, but it has me a little worried. I don't like this. Because you know they're just trying to... They're troublemakers. They are big troublemakers. Now this I think was what was supposed to have been revealed, the big surprising evidence that maybe this fell through, maybe...

2:23:26 You know, I think everyone was ready to pounce on it and that's probably why CBS brought it up. Tonight we're learning new details about this man, 26-year-old Anton Lunek of Brooklyn, seen here on January 6th. Turns out he was the man who allegedly received a call via the White House switchboard on the day of the attack. The news of such a call was revealed Sunday night on 60 Minutes by former January 6th committee investigator Denver Riggleman. That's a pretty big aha moment. Aha? Wait a minute. Someone in the White House was calling one of the rioters while the riot was going on? On January 6th, absolutely. And you know who both ends of that call? I only know one end of that call. I don't know the White House end, which I believe is more important. CBS News has learned that Lunick traveled to DC the night before the Capitol attack with two friends.

2:24:12 The call allegedly lasted just nine seconds and was made to Lunick's phone at about 4.30 p.m. It's a butt dial. It's not known whether there was an exchange or if the call was sent straight to voicemail. A CBS News review of Lunick's case finds he left the Capitol more than an hour earlier at 3.18 p.m. after about 10 minutes inside. Illinois Democrat Rajah Krishnamoorthi is one of Riggleman's former U.S. House colleagues. I think that it's fair to say we all knew that the White House was somehow involved with January 6th on the very day that the insurrection was happening. Any information about this particular phone call would help to develop that narrative further. Hey, did you hear what he said?

2:24:56 Yeah, but I wanted I want you to play it again, but that guy is in the same milieu with that voice as The hell's the guy with the mustache who was Obama's campaign manager for a while. He's got a podcast Yeah, the fart sniffer Bolton No, not Bolton. Bolton doesn't... No, this guy, believe me, this sounds exactly like... The guy with the mustache. Come on, chatroom, who was Obama's campaign manager which wasn't Bolton? Oh, Axelrod. Axelrod. He sounds exactly like Axelrod with that same... And the reason I can spot it this quickly because I don't have these clips but I do have some clips coming up because Axelrod

2:25:43 also has a podcast. If you follow the news, CNN is killing almost all of its podcasting division thinking that what's the point of throwing money at this because they're losing their ass. Last thing they want is for it to end up on what the hell are these podcasts doing? What's wrong with these podcasts? Let's listen to Axelrod. certain words and that does matter and that because when the president says terrorist attack that's a whole lot yes absolutely and the word is taken on a different meaning since 9-11

2:26:22 Illinois Democrat Rajah Krishnamoorthi is one of Riggleman's former U.S. House colleagues. I think that it's fair to say we all knew that the White House was somehow involved with January 6th on the very day that the insurrection was happening. Any information about this particular phone call would help to develop that narrative further Any information on this phone call would help develop that narrative further, the narrative that the White House was in control of the mob with a nine-second call. These people are crazy. It's a nine-second call. They are, you're right, they're insane. They're insane. Here's a follow-up. We reached out to Anton Lunek through his attorney to get more details about that call.

2:27:05 but didn't get a response. A spokesman for the January 6th Select Committee didn't directly address Riggleman's claims about the call, but said Riggleman left the panel in April and has limited knowledge of the committee's work. Yeah, okay. All right. They're just... And your buddy John Heilman, he's all in. What happened to that guy? He became... He got woke about... Big, big shill. He got woke some years back. He was in the Civil War supercut. Yeah, yeah I heard him. That's sad. Yeah, well you get the... you... you're... it's... putting butter on the bread thing.

2:28:42 This is, what is this person? She is a, she's around the corner. She's a sociology PhD from UC Berkeley. Her name is Laurel Westbrook. And she has a theory as to why cis, I think she might even say white cis men, but why cis-gendered men, that's you and I, John, but more you, why you are so afraid of trans women or trans men? And I'm not saying you are, but she is saying that cisgender... She's saying I am. She's saying you are. And I'm calling you out specifically because you are the one that always comes with the trans clips and the queer clips. I'm mostly non-binary. I'm mostly non-binary. Okay. Well, let's listen to what the problem is because it's enlightening. It's important to note that this different perception of transgender men is not a result of greater cultural acceptance. It's not just like...

2:29:41 cis opponents to trans rights love trans men. Rather, it's the assumed lack of a naturally occurring penis, the hallmark of biological maleness, and its assumed superiority to femaleness renders transgender men non-threatening in gender segregated spaces, including bathrooms and sports teams. Oh, it's also for women. This belief in the innate superiority and threat of male bodies accounts for why cisgender opposition to transgender inclusion organizes predominantly around the presence of transgender women and not transgender men.

2:30:17 This suggests that gender panics around transgender people might more accurately be termed penis panics, as they are fueled by the terror of penises, particularly penises where they should not be, because where they are in women's restrooms or locker rooms or sports teams is then dangerous to cisgender women and girls. Yes, yes, it is odd to see a penis where one does not expect a penis. Thank you for pointing that out. I don't know if we have to call it penis panic. She likes saying the word a lot. Penis, yeah. I think she might have one. I'm just looking at her, I don't know. I mean, I can't tell. Let me take a look myself. Do you have her clip? Do you have her clip? Oh, you're going to look at her name, of course, yes. What is her name again? Laurel Westbrook.

2:31:14 Laurel? L-A-U-R-E-L Westbrook. W-E-S-T-B-R-O-O-K. So while you're looking that up, I'll play a nonsensical clip. Alright, did you take a look at it?

2:31:51 Yeah, now the problem is there's a lot of Laurel Westbrooks including some blonde babe was pretty attractive and then on the far end PhD from UC Berkeley you couldn't add that to the search I Guess I could have but this one has white sidewalled marine haircut with the hair stacked straight up. So it looks like it sounds right It sounds it looks round ugly. She looks like a smugly non-binary. Yes. You got a round face kind of oval and Well, there's a round-faced one here, too. Let's not obsess over it, okay? Can we just move on? I gotta obsess! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda. In the morning. A few people will think, but I should mention, she has the picture with the white sidewalls and then she's got an older picture

2:32:51 Which makes her face look around but when she has the white sidewalls and this hair stacked up in a kind of a parallel line So it's just big top. Mm-hmm. It doesn't make her face. It's just done a good job and not making her face look round Good work. Yes fascinating. Yeah, whatever. Uh, where did it happen to the oh, sorry. Sorry. Oh We do have a few people to thank and not that many but a few and I just have to scroll back up to the top one which is in Austin, Texas and it's Austin Johnsey. Austin from Austin. $133.31. Layola, Paige, Holland in San Antonio, Texas. We got Texas. Texas in the house. 11111.

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2:40:59 H-r-a-n and I don't have it here. I'll get to that next show because I do have some some clips in fact I wanted to play about her and her name Ray Howard Ray Howard Says he came in with 50 says could I grab one of those American D douchings before they're gone? Oh You hear that Hold on a second. Uh oh, that one has to be thrown back. I need to shake the bottle. That's typical of bad quality. Bad quality. That's some Chinese de-douching. Yeah, let's get you the American. You've been de-douched. Better, better, better, better. Much better.

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2:46:01 And here's the Too Hot Tucson Meetup Report. This is Surly Mofo here at the Too Hot Tucson Meetup. In the morning. Hi all boys, this is Baroness Beth. It's six o'clock. Do you know where your rain sticks are? Hi, this is Patty Ann here in the Sonoran Desert and it's about 30 degrees celsius. Having a great time. JCD, you're my man. Hi John and Adam, it's Coyote from the troll room crashing your meetup. Hey, this is Brian from Tempe just saying college towns can be friends. Hey John and Adam, this is Tim down from the Oregon Local 33 to my first no agenda meetup. The too hot Tucson and having a great time making new friends.

2:45:24 Head over to noahdendonation.com slash rings. Let us know exactly where to send it all. You get the ring, which is a Signet ring. You can seal your important correspondence with it with the provided wax and of course a certificate of authenticity. Thanks again everybody. Yo, yo, they are cranking up for the next month. We got lots of meetups happening, including the 21st of October in Copenhagen. I was asked to mention that early because apparently in Copenhagen they need a month to get anything organized. I don't know why that is exactly.

2:46:01 And here's the Too Hot Tucson Meetup Report. This is Surly Mofo here at the Too Hot Tucson Meetup. In the morning. Hi all boys, this is Baroness Beth. It's six o'clock. Do you know where your rain sticks are? Hi, this is Patty Ann here in the Sonoran Desert and it's about 30 degrees celsius. Having a great time. JCD, you're my man. Hi John and Adam, it's Coyote from the troll room crashing your meetup. Hey, this is Brian from Tempe just saying college towns can be friends. Hey John and Adam, this is Tim down from the Oregon Local 33 to my first no agenda meetup. The too hot Tucson and having a great time making new friends.

2:46:44 This is Vince the beatboxer over here at the no agenda meetup celebrating my 24th trip around the sun This is Vince's mom I'm here too All right Vince's mom, thank you Here's what's coming up today the Berman and refugees meet up six o'clock Milwaukee time Waterford Waterford still house in Waterford, Wisconsin Oh, that was, oh, I see. September 30th, Raleigh has been cancelled. All right. Then Friday, we have, this is 30th, Let Them Eat Bugs meet up, 6 o'clock Central, Presley's in Houston, Texas. No agenda, I must be high. Number four, the meet up at 7 o'clock on Friday, McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in Toronto, Ontario. Central Balkan, The Traveling Slave is back again, 7, 8 o'clock, Zagreb.

2:47:37 Zagreb time at Sisi Bar Aktuel in Hrvatska, Croatia. Go say hi to Alex. That should be a fun one. I'm looking forward to a report. We know you're there in Croatia. First of October, Saturday, Red 33, Red 33, harvest season meetup, 2.30, Eastern Castle Island Brewery, Norwood, Massachusetts. Say hi to Sir Nathan Lee Miller, Foster for me, chaotic good night of the White Lodge. Saturday as well, SoFlu Soiree, 3 o'clock, Eastern Beefs O'Brady in Punta Gorda if it's being held. We do not have confirmation, hope everything's okay.

2:48:13 333 Spooks and Slaves, 333 Eastern, Harper's Ferry Brewery, Purcellville, Virginia, Spook Central. Join like... Minded Folk at 333 Central as well on Saturday, The Harvest Hall at Hotel Vinn in Grapevine, Texas. Dublin's No Agenda Meetup, which will be at, it says TPM, maybe that was meant to be 1PM. It's Irish Standard Time. Kibon's Port Weatherspoons, Dublin, Ireland. Go take a look at noagendameetups.com for exact starting time. And finally, the Cancun Dollar Drinks Heavy Party. Party time, six o'clock Cancun, Gwandola Plaza, Zona Centra Avenue.

2:48:53 Cancun dude we are so international we had a lot of international meetups got another one in Victoria BC on the 30th we have Bayern Brunnen Bavaria Deutschland on the 8th and we got Peterborough Canada on the 14th Oh the Los Angeles on the 15th that's real foreign and then Copenhagen is a nowadays first yeah And there you go. It's quite a lot. NoagendaMeetups.com is where you can find out where all these meetups are. You get all the particulars, all the details. It's run by our knight, Sir Daniel, with Mimi in the back office. We really appreciate all of these producer-organized meetups that you are doing all over the world. It makes a big difference to have this community meet in person. NoagendaMeetups.com. If you can't find one, start one yourself.

2:49:46 Hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be. Triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Like a party. Alright, let's check ISOs. You got your ISOs? I have four ISOs. Okay, let's go.

2:50:22 Let's just go in order to I think talking a little more in the mic Let's go with great. You really got to get on the mic great very cool now that is the ISO I'm that should win Really great great very cool Okay, that's our podcast all right. What else next one is magical. Oh wow Okay, oh, sorry that was oh wow this is how you played oh wow instead of magical moment a magical moment Yeah, I like I get to play out. Oh wow again. I like that one. Yeah. Oh wow Yeah, I like that one better than great Really? Yeah, okay, then I got yeah Yeah, let me see what I have. Where's Jackie? Could couldn't resist This is the beginning of a great journey for you too long. Maybe this one Everybody

2:51:23 Oh, I gotta laugh. I gotta laugh. Yeah, it's still long and it's That's not long sounds so stone Okay, let's compare. I thought your oh wow was actually better. Let's see. Oh, wow Can we do oh wow as a compromise? Okay, we do. Oh, wow. Yeah, I think that'd be good. It's a good compromise They definitely said it a lot We haven't done any COVID, so I do need to play one COVID clip, which is from our director of the CDC, Madame Walensky. She should have a pashmina. Talk to Fifi.

2:52:08 And she has asked a question about Paul Offit, one of the doctors who was on the FDA advisory board who voted against the most recent vax which is now being offered. And the clips we've played it sounds like he's like, I don't want anything to do with this. I said no! I said no. That's pretty much what he said. So how does the director of CDC react to his saying no? Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious disease and vaccine expert at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, he's also a member of the FDA Advisory Committee, has been critical of this updated booster. He says that a healthy young person really is unlikely to even benefit from a booster dose. It should be targeted more specifically to those who really are most likely to benefit. And I wonder

2:53:02 if you agree with that assessment and whether just even saying that adds to what's been as you know an ongoing criticism of CDC messaging that COVID vaccines COVID itself the messaging has been confusing. So first deep respect to Dr. Offit. Here's what I will say about our updated... What do you think she's gonna say in answer to that? Here's what I will say. We think that the vaccines are safe and effective and she's just gonna ignore it. even better. So first deep respect to Dr. Offit. Here's what I will say about our updated vaccine. We are simplifying our message. The message is you need to get your fall booster vaccine. So go ahead and get it. If you're over the age of 12, if you've received your primary series, if you're more than two months out of your last shot, you can get an updated vaccine. And so we've intentionally simplified the message so it's very, very clear.

2:53:58 We've simplified the message. So she is answering a non-existent question as though the whole problem was the complexity of the message. It was way too complex. But she completely ignores the fact that, you know, the guy said no. Yeah, it's crazy. The way you do it. She's pretty good by the way. That's good bureaucrat. Better than she's done before for sure. Do you have one to leave us? She's learning. Do you have one to leave us with or what you got? Oh, we got the... I don't have any one. I got some some uh, oh, yeah, let's this this is educational and it's gonna take us a couple of minutes But let's do it so we can catch up with Iran and Starlink Iran and Starlink Oh Internet in a suitcase. Oh shoot fail who suggested that his company SpaceX could make its Starlink satellite based internet available in Iran and

2:55:01 How promising is that? How would that work? So I myself am not a tech expert, Marie-Louise, but when I speak to my friends who are, they will argue that this is an important development. Now, what's challenging, I'll tell you the challenges is that for example in Ukraine, Starlink has played an important role in providing internet up for up to a couple hundred thousand people. The challenge is that whereas in Ukraine, which is a country which is allied with the United States, the US has a strong presence there and the Ukrainian government eagerly wanted this internet access, none of those things are true in the Iranian context. And so logistically,

2:55:46 It's much more challenging because you're going to have to essentially smuggle in these internet kits through neighboring countries. And then there's a financial challenge here because you can't expect Iranians to be paying for this internet service. But neither of these are insurmountable obstacles. So just to make sure I understand the comparison, Starlink went into Ukraine, it was seen as a big success after Russia hit Ukraine's internet access. But the key difference was Ukraine wanted internet access, they wanted people to be able to communicate. Iran would not want people to be able to communicate over Starlink satellites.

2:56:22 Exactly. I think the Iranian government wants to, it's a police state, so it wants to control communication, wants to control information and wants to be able, if necessary, to essentially throttle the internet so it can repress people in the dark. And so, you know, outside internet access coming in would be very much viewed as a threat by the Iranian government. Yeah, this is the whole Arab Spring, internet in a suitcase gambit. This whole thing, this is really, yeah, but it's amped up because of Starlink and you know that Elon's gonna get some good attention from our government because he's doing a service to everybody. He's doing what he's told to do. He's doing a very good job. He's doing a very good job. But part two is kind of interesting. I just think just from this, kind of the strategic aspect, part two,

2:57:13 pretty much makes it clear that this won't be that hard to do if you don't mind taxpayer money going into it. But the reality is that Iran is a country which prohibits satellite dishes and it prohibits alcohol and yet there's probably 30 million satellite dishes in Iran and according to the regime itself there's a problem with alcoholism. So smuggling small devices into Iran which are probably about the size of a pizza box I would say on balance is not an overwhelming risk. It's a little bit bigger than a pizza box. Yeah, you have one. I thought that you could add a little color to this report. It is not a big box, but it's definitely not a pizza box. I'll just say again, this is some amazing technology. I am blown away that it even works at all. You take this three pieces, no, two pieces really. No, there's a stand for the satellite. You stick the pole from the satellite dish, which is a rectangle.

2:58:13 Into that you connect that wire to the to the hub which is a Wi-Fi Thing and that Wi-Fi thing you plug into the wall then you got to do the typical select your Wi-Fi network to you know you have to your phone has to select that new Wi-Fi network to set it up and That's it. And then the satellite self adjust and it just works and Now it's not great for podcasts because of the physical distance. There is limitation and you will have some latency, but in a pinch... Oh, if you're just surfing the web.

2:58:50 Reading news feeds. Oh, no, you can do Roku with this thing. I mean, it's great. I get high speed. Oh, yeah. I know I get high speed. Totally. What is the bandwidth? You must have checked it. Well, it varies, of course, but it's between 100 megabits per second and 15. You know, it can vary sometimes a little bit. But in general, I've never had a problem. If you start to download a big file, you can see it progressively. The whole system is assigning bandwidth. and gets faster. I don't know, seems like a cool thing to hack or a cool thing to blow some of those satellites out of the sky. I mean, we need some action on this. Elon's just getting... I'm sure that they don't like the idea. The Iranians. This is the second shot at this we had and we can't keep doing this over and over. We'll talk about that in the next show. I do have some clips that talk about how it may be us behind all the action. What? No.

2:59:48 Again, I'm flabbergasted. It stuns me every time. It's crazy. Deconstruction complete for today? Well, we're never complete, of course. We got some Hugh Allison coming up in the end of show mixes, Dee's Laughs, William York and Tom Starkweather. Another one is fantastic historical documents, which is what all of his end of show mixes turn out to be. Up next on noagendastream.com, you can find it in the troll room, trollroom.io. We've got Behind the Schemes. Yeah, that should be a good one. Make sure you give that a listen. And we return on Thursday. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region No. 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And actually, I'll be back on Sunday. I don't know what Adam's going to do. Oh, that's the way it is. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's the second Thursday.

3:00:44 Enjoy John. I'll be here by myself. Remember us at thevorac.org slash NA. Until then, adios mofos and such. We have a brand. New York has a brand. And when people see it, it means something.

3:01:33 When we go there, it's not, Kansas doesn't have a brand. When you go there, okay, you're from Kansas. Well, you know what? Come on, brother. But New York has a friend. As the world turns, be curious and yearn to learn. Bill Gates tried to block out the sun like Monty Burns. I want the sovereignty of bodily autonomy. Coerce you with this medical experiment seems odd to me. Stick it in your arm, act like there's no possible harm. Myocarditis and buff palsy, you're in need for alarm. You're in the alarm. Take it at your own risk. What the hell is this? Few doctors give you objective advice, much less follow-up tips.

3:02:13 Advocating for free speech, you disagree only adds to your integrity. If you asking me, miss me with the poison, thought it was me, B.B.D. Ricky Bell, Michael Bivens, Ronnie DeVoe. Pusha T says if you know, then you know. Come on to the show, October 6th, 8 p.m. If you don't know, now you know. If you see something, say something is more than a slogan. It's how we protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our communities. Use the say it's a role by recognizing and reporting suspicious activity. Oh, Sunday is a big day. It's about all of us. See, say, day. All right, Secretary Mayorkas of the Department of Homeland Security. See, say, day. You guys got the weirdest eyes. They're just like bugging out. They're bugging out. They're bugging out.

3:03:05 Why do I see say? To protect my wife and our daughters. To make my community safer. September 25th is See Say Day. Post on social media using hashtag whyICsay. Authorities are investigating whether sabotage is the cause of leaks in the Nord Stream gas pipelines connecting Russia to Europe. Detected damage simultaneously at three underwater pipes in the Baltic Sea. At the very same time that leaks in these pipelines were detected, Swedish officials recorded two powerful undersea explosions, each one of which was equivalent to hundreds of pounds of TNT. These explosions were at least equivalent to 200, 250 pounds of TNT each, so they're quite big.

3:03:52 Only a very professional organization could do this. Only a big country could do it. The leaks are under investigation. There are initial reports indicating that this may be the result of an attack or some kind of sabotage, but these are initial reports and we haven't confirmed that yet. But if it is confirmed, that's clearly in no one's interest. Germany, Denmark and the US all fear it could be sabotage. The Kremlin says it's extremely concerned about the leaks. But her Polish counterpart alleged that the leaks are sabotage after the leaders toured an energy facility in Poland. In a move that Europe hopes will ease its energy crisis, leaders have inaugurated a new pipeline delivering gas from Norway to Poland. This is the red line, it's the line of the Baltic pipe.

3:04:39 which was inaugurated yesterday, just as these explosions occurred. There will be no longer the North Stream 2. We will bring an end to it. If at all possible, prevent the North Stream 2 from ever being completed. Is that something that is being discussed with allies? Is that something that's being contemplated? Absolutely. I'm not going to get into the specifics here today, but we will work with Germany to ensure that the pipeline does not move forward. If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward. But how will you do that?

3:05:18 Exactly. Since the project and control of the project is within Germany's control. We will, I promise you we'll be able to do it. The best podcast in the universe! devorek.org slash n-a Oh wow.