Episode 1481 · Sunday, 28 August 2022

Injectables

From Facebook’s algorithmic suppression of the Hunter Biden story to the legal fallout of the Mar-a-Lago search, the landscape of American information control is shifting.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 58m listen | 41 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1481

About this episode

Mark Zuckerberg admitted to Joe Rogan that Facebook throttled the Hunter Biden laptop story following a general FBI warning about Russian propaganda. This revelation coincides with the release of a partially redacted Mar-a-Lago search affidavit, which Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze for its bureaucratic use of terms like unfoldered. The hosts contrast these transparency issues with the Director of National Intelligence beginning a formal risk assessment of documents recovered from Donald Trump.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre defended the administration's use of the term semi-fascism to describe MAGA Republicans while Joe Biden announced a three billion dollar military aid package for Ukraine. In the legal sphere, Julian Gillespie outlined potential gross negligence liability for doctors involved in the COVID-19 vaccine rollout as Moderna filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Pfizer and BioNTech. Meanwhile, Mark Steyn and Matt Le Tissier called for investigations into sudden athlete collapses, and the FDA approved over-the-counter hearing aids with backing from the Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Chelsea Clinton and Hillary Clinton faced mockery for their legal trivia loss to Kim Kardashian on the Apple TV+ series Gutsy. The episode features a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Gregory of the Continual Vacation and Sir Goat of the Hill as the Value for Value model continues to fund the show. Adam Curry also recounts his presentation at Gary Leland’s BitBlockBoom conference in Austin.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Technical Difficulties

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 1481 of No Agenda from the Texas Hill Country and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry describes technical issues following a trip to Dallas, including lost equipment and a missing USB dock for his wireless peripherals. Dvorak notes a slight change in Curry's audio quality during the remote broadcast.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· rodecaster pro· beelink· dallas· technical difficulties

00:00 More shots, get more shots, another booster. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, August 28, 2022. This is your award-winning GiveOnNation Media Assassination Episode 1481. This is no agenda. Death defying and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country back here in FEMA Region number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the cold cars are backing up, I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh man, I've had technical difficulties today.

00:36 Like what? Well, this is really odd. You had the new Rodecaster Pro, took it to Dallas, and I didn't take the... the... the... what is the... the computer call? The Blue the beelink a beelink. Yeah, I didn't take the beelink cuz I didn't need it You know, this is the whole thing is how you heard his feelings. Oh, the Rodecaster Pro is fine. You know, it's it's all self-contained I just took a laptop hooked it up everything worked great. And in fact, everyone said it sounded exactly the same Did so I bring it home and I'm said my voice was a little pitchy. Oh, really? Oh

01:11 I thought it was a little tinny. Oh, I'm sorry. That might have been the Wi-Fi connection that doesn't help sometimes. Sorry, I didn't hear it. So I was like, I'll just set it up this morning, I get set and I don't know how this happened, but the only other external piece I had was a USB dock, an extender dock. Which for some reason didn't make it back home with me. I don't understand. You lost gear. Yeah, it's not a big problem except the wireless keyboard, wireless mouse and I also have a wireless mouth. And both of the receiver USB plugs were in the dock. Oh no! So I'm like, okay, luckily I have another wireless mouse but then keyboard.

02:01 Oh yeah, so I have to rip apart boxes in the garage to get a wireless keyboard. Then I find I have a Bluetooth keyboard. You know, but you gotta log into Windows. Like, how do I do this? I blame Ben Shapiro. And I'm actually... You know, I've lost gear on the road too and it's very annoying. Oh, it's the worst. And you know, I'm not an idiot. I know how to check the room before I leave. Yeah, but stuff like that is usually not on the mental checklist. You know, like something plugged in or a cable and... I mean, I just... Anyway.

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Ben Shapiro, Podcast Movement, Babylon Bee Satire

The hosts discuss the fallout from Ben Shapiro's appearance at the Podcast Movement conference in Dallas. They reference a satirical Babylon Bee article regarding the event and criticize the conference organizers for their "woke" reaction to Shapiro's presence. The segment highlights the growing interest in the Podcasting 2.0 ecosystem as an alternative to mainstream industry gatekeeping.

ben shapiro· podcast movement· babylon bee· woke culture· dallas· podcasting 2.0

02:42 Who knows? Somebody's been gifted something. Yeah, they don't have the keyboard or the mouse to go with it, but yeah, they got something gifted. Hey man, did you see the follow-up to that, to the Ben Shapiro fracas? Because we didn't even know what happened. The Babylon Bee story? Oh my, no I hadn't seen the Babylon Bee. What did they write? 10,000 people dead because Ben Shapiro walked through a Whole Foods. Oh yeah, right. You saw that. You know, it was so interesting after the show I saw the thousands and thousands of comments

03:18 And funny ones too, you know, like show me on the Ben Shapiro doll where you were hurt, you know, where he harmed you. You know, we're here at Dallas Medical, we're triaging, we've got thousands coming in, they're stacking up in the hallways. I'm telling you, I mean, it's not as if Ben Shapiro can't get publicity, but this was a gold mine for him. And he played it well, really downplayed it, you know, let other people do funny reports. It was great. Yeah, it was a gold mine, I agree. But in an interesting way, it was also kind of like peak woke or like a fiat meltdown, if you will, because it was people from all across the spectrum who were bitching at podcast movement. It wasn't. And they should be. Everybody should be. So people kind of came together. It's shameful what they did. They came together. They look like the weenies of the decade. They haven't tweeted since, I might add.

04:15 So pathetic. What would the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group recommend for them, John? What do you think they should do in this case? Well, in this case I think they're doing the right thing. Shutting up, just sitting quietly? Yeah, and letting it pass. Yeah, there's a saying in the old country, Als je geschoren wordt, moet je stilzitten. Which translates to, when you're being shorn as a sheep, you'd best better sit still. Exactly. Yeah, and it's probably probably wise wise words So I went as they can if they come out and try to do something because they can't you know if you're That woke that that happened in the first place You can't undo it with some sort of a sincere apology or anything because it makes you look worse. Yeah there's nothing you can do in certain situations that

05:03 that won't make you look worse and just reignite the fire. You know, the thing, let it smolder out and go out completely. You gotta just shut up and take it like a man. Like whatever you are, like a he, her, zher. Like an nym, a nur, a nur, a nem. Well, what's interesting is that people, all of a sudden they're starting to contact the Podcasting 2.0 team. Like, hey, you guys seem to have an escape hatch from all this insanity. Yeah, welcome to the party. Right on time! I don't know it's not much of an escape. It's just everybody already know about it to the point where you've got like two- You've got five million podcasts registered. No, no, it's absolutely not widely known. I thought it was totally widely known. Well, it-

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

BitBlockBoom Conference, Gary Leland, Value for Value

Adam Curry recounts his experience speaking at the BitBlockBoom Bitcoin conference in Austin, Texas. The event was organized by Gary Leland, a pioneer in the podcasting space known for the Podcast Pickle network. Curry presented the "Value for Value" model to an audience of Bitcoin enthusiasts and No Agenda producers.

bitblockboom· gary leland· bitcoin· value for value· podcast pickle· austin

05:50 No, I don't think it's widely known that there are so many apps that are now using the index. I don't think that's widely known yet. Oh, well, that part maybe not, but I think the podcasters know enough to get on the index. Oh, yeah, no, they're all in the index for sure, but they don't really know why. I don't think most know why. Well, that's always going to be the case. Yeah. I don't know. It seems like the thing, it's like the lines out in front of the disco. Is this place good? Yeah, look at the lines. Hey, I want in. Yeah, exactly. So I went from Dallas to Austin and then spoke yesterday at the BitBlockBoom conference. Which is... Fairly descriptive. It's a Bitcoin conference, but the fun thing is, and this is why I did it, it's run by Gary Leland. He's the guy that used to own the whole podcast conference. He sold it in 2019. And you will know who he is because he originally is the Podcast Pickle guy.

06:50 You don't remember the podcast pickle guy? No, I don't. Man, he was at all the conferences early on and he was, you know, he had people... You have to remember I have never been to one of these conferences. No, but it was all, there were videos of it because he always had guys in big pickle suits walking around trying to sign him up to his podcast pickle network. You don't remember that? No. It's on LevelPodbean, you know. Podbean. Never heard of it. By the way, Podbean are huge. I had no idea. Oh yeah, they are huge. They were one of the biggest sponsors, which I think they laid down 80 grand to sponsor that conference. Insane. They should be eschewed for supporting this sort of hateful type operation. Yeah, they may be. They may be.

07:37 So it was nice because at the BitBlockBoom conference I presented value for value and the story got kind of tight and it worked out pretty well and people understood it, especially as the new international lifestyle. Good to see a whole bunch of no agenda people in the audience yelling out ITM and right in front of me there was a dude right in front. And he was wearing a resist we much t-shirt. It cracked me up. Yeah, very different the Bitcoin is a lot more fun. Meanwhile, turn on the radio.

08:14 This is all you get TV, radio, anywhere. Tonight, new details from the partially redacted affidavit used to authorize the FBI search. Actually, we should do it like this. This is better. Tonight, breaking news as we come on the air. In the Trump-Mar-a-Lago documents investigation, U.S. intelligence officials now conducting a risk assessment to evaluate potential harm to national security. The director of national intelligence leading a review of those classified documents recovered from the former president's Florida home. Some of them marked top secret. Officials working to evaluate the potential fallout from improper storage and handling. This a day after the DOJ released that heavily redacted affidavit justifying their search. Former President Trump insisting he did nothing wrong and laying out his case for a special master to oversee the documents. Are they allowed to use the term master? Is that okay?

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Mar-a-Lago Affidavit, FBI Search, Bureaucratic Language

Mainstream media reports on the partially redacted FBI affidavit used to authorize the search of Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. The hosts mock the use of the term "special master" and the bureaucratic language used by investigators, specifically the word "unfoldered." They analyze the high percentage of redactions in the released document.

donald trump· mar-a-lago· fbi· department of justice· redacted affidavit· john carl

07:37 So it was nice because at the BitBlockBoom conference I presented value for value and the story got kind of tight and it worked out pretty well and people understood it, especially as the new international lifestyle. Good to see a whole bunch of no agenda people in the audience yelling out ITM and right in front of me there was a dude right in front. And he was wearing a resist we much t-shirt. It cracked me up. Yeah, very different the Bitcoin is a lot more fun. Meanwhile, turn on the radio.

08:14 This is all you get TV, radio, anywhere. Tonight, new details from the partially redacted affidavit used to authorize the FBI search. Actually, we should do it like this. This is better. Tonight, breaking news as we come on the air. In the Trump-Mar-a-Lago documents investigation, U.S. intelligence officials now conducting a risk assessment to evaluate potential harm to national security. The director of national intelligence leading a review of those classified documents recovered from the former president's Florida home. Some of them marked top secret. Officials working to evaluate the potential fallout from improper storage and handling. This a day after the DOJ released that heavily redacted affidavit justifying their search. Former President Trump insisting he did nothing wrong and laying out his case for a special master to oversee the documents. Are they allowed to use the term master? Is that okay?

09:08 I think they should be called out for it. Yeah, that's very racist. We don't use those words anymore. Master. Nasty. I have a rundown from same, kind of the same, I think a little more detailed. Yeah, this was, I just wanted that big bombastic opening and the... Yeah, the bombastic opening. And the big noise. The big noise, everybody! I see nothing on my list for this thing even though I know it. I have a couple of things. I'll play another thing. I'll play another thing. So this is some detail, not too long. Tonight, new details from the partially redacted affidavit used to authorize the FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home.

09:49 One of the significant concerns according to the affidavit was that no space at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home was authorized for the storage of classified material. Investigators using distinctly bureaucratic language said the records were unfolded. What is this distinctly bureaucratic language? Why did he even say that? I don't understand. Well, now let's stop there. Unfolded, of course, is the word he referred to. Yeah. Why did he say that? Why diplomatic? Not intelligence or storage, no diplomatic. Diplomatic is now international so that might have to, going back to Macron maybe.

10:31 Oh, maybe the McCron thing has something to do with it. That's a good point, but his pointing out that this distinctly bureaucratic... What else do you expect from bureaucrats? Investigators... It's like someone's a redundant. Okay, I'm sorry. In distinctly bureaucratic language said the records were unfolded and intermixed with other records and otherwise unproperly identified. Now as expected, this affidavit was heavily... Is it is it unproperly or is it improperly? Yeah, that's what the whole idea was. He wants to point out the stupidity of using the word improperly. Oh, there it is. So not being able to speak English is now diplomatic language. Let's play some points for us. That's John Carl.

11:21 Uh, to get some extra brownie points there. Oh yeah, for covering, for covering for that shit. Unbelievable, so whenever someone says something dumb I'll say, oh, you a diplomat? You speak like diplomat. Investigators using distinctly bureaucratic language said the records were unfoldered and intermixed with other records and otherwise unproperly identified. Now as expected, this affidavit was heavily redacted with just 37% of the pages having no redactions. 34% of the pages were partially redacted while 29% of this affidavit was totally redacted. In other words, completely blacked out.

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

National Intelligence Risk Assessment, Judge Aileen Cannon

The Director of National Intelligence begins a risk assessment of classified documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago following requests from Representatives Adam Schiff and Carolyn Maloney. Meanwhile, Federal Judge Aileen Cannon signals her preliminary intent to appoint a special master to oversee the document review. The hosts critique the media's "bombastic" coverage of the investigation.

adam schiff· carolyn maloney· aileen cannon· national intelligence· mar-a-lago· special master

11:57 The affidavit argues a search of Mar-a-Lago was necessary due to the highly sensitive material found in boxes recovered by the National Archives back in January. Okay. Did you have anything? I got my clips. Okay, what you got? This is from NPR, so we have a slightly different approach. Oh, please. Yes. And this is... They won't point out the stupidity of unproperly. They'll just change the wording and do it for them. Raid Affidavit 1. A day after the Justice Department released a heavily redacted version of the affidavit used to justify a search of former President Donald Trump's South Florida home, the Director of National Intelligence says her office will lead an investigation into whether the storage of sensitive documents recovered poses any risk to national security. This after an inquiry from the chairs of the House Intelligence Committee and Oversight and Reform Committee.

12:51 Representatives Adam Schiff and Carolyn Maloney say they're pleased the assessment will be done and are calling on the intelligence community to move quickly. Nearly half of that affidavit was blacked out and Pierce Ryan Lucas has more. The department described the affidavit as a road map to its investigation and it said that releasing the affidavit untouched could compromise the very investigation that's underway. And so details about the scope and the direction of the investigation were redacted in the version that was released. So, for example, in a section about the probable cause for believing that classified documents and government records were still at Mar-a-Lago, pretty much the whole section on that was blacked out page after page. Man, for the... Does anyone

13:39 Does anyone give a shit anymore about this? I mean, this is so dumb, so infantile. They're just, I mean, they could have said any, they could be any topic. They're just using that urgency and the big bombastic sounds and the... The MacGuffin. MacGuffin, yes. They're pointing out, you know, percentages of redaction of... Give me a break. You're polluting people's minds. See what they say in part two of this report. Meanwhile, Trump wants an independent special master appointed over that search. A federal judge in Florida told the Justice Department today to give her more specific information about the classified records that were removed. And Judge Aileen Cannon says it's her preliminary intent to appoint a special master in the case.

14:24 Again, with the racist master. I don't understand how this is possible. I just don't get it. You know, this is how... you can't say master bedroom, you can't say... Master suite. You can't use master slave in open source code, but yet special master? No problemo. Can't do master switch anymore. I can't believe that some of those Ben Shapiro people, that they're not freaking out over this. They really should. Yeah, I'm in total agreement with your thinking here because if you're gonna freak out about the use of the word master and all these other situations that are meaningless. You gotta do it. Why do you let this one slide? Why specifically do you let this one slide? Let me think. Orange man bad. That would be it. So I have a couple. No that can't be it. I have a couple. What are you talking about?

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Mary Trump, Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Theory

Mary Trump appears on media outlets to speculate about a potential "mole" within Donald Trump's inner circle. She suggests Jared Kushner might be involved, citing a $2 billion investment from the Saudi sovereign wealth fund led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman into Kushner's Affinity Partners. The hosts question the validity of these speculative claims.

mary trump· jared kushner· mohammed bin salman· affinity partners· saudi arabia· mole

15:16 I have a couple of related clips. At one point there was a theory, and I think it still exists, that there's a mole, a mole in the Trump camp. And the mole let the feds know that Trump has something. Well, there's always been. I think Trump has been laced with moles ever since 2015. Sure, but the question is who is the mole? Who's the mole? Well, thank you, James Shatner. I went to Mediate, which is... that's all a part of the Clinton... isn't that the... what was that? Maybe not, I don't know. It's not a spin-off of Media Matters, but it's still... It's a right-wing thing, actually, I think, isn't it? Media? No, I don't think so. Well, regardless, 355 trackers. Just wanted to point that out.

16:12 So they got a hold of Mary Trump, the former president. So that nobody who puts her on is possibly a right-winger. You're right. And here is her theory. So according to the reporting, there is a Mar-a-Lago mole. Do you have any guesses? Do you have any idea who you... Who benefits the most by Donald Trump going to prison? There's so many. There are so it's so tough to choose. I wanted to be all of them. You know, I think it's so how can you take this woman seriously? It's so tough to choose. We need to start with who would have access to this stuff. I don't think Mark Meadows would have access to it. I don't either. I think we need to look very hard at why Jared got two billion dollars.

16:56 We needed to look very hard at why he has been so quiet for so many months now. And we need to think about who if is who could also be implicated in this that would need As big a play as turning Donald in in order to get out of trouble, or at least to mitigate the trouble there and it sounds like somebody in Jared's position. I'm not saying it's Jared, but. It could be. I don't know. We were going through it. We had all these scenarios. What is this $2 billion thing that she references? I don't have any idea. And what would be the... If he got $2 billion, why would he then be the mole? Because they caught him stealing or what is this bulk? It's confusing to me. She is... I don't know. Well, this is... I'll give you a

17:52 worst clip of the year for this clip by the way. You're welcome. She is the worst person ever and she was on some other show recently with Erica Jong what's-her-name and and some other bunch of lefties and she was so bad that all the lefties were rolling their eyes. They can't even deal with her. The New York Times reported on April 10th a Saudi sovereign wealth fund led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman MBS. contributed two billion dollars to Kushner's affinity partners over the objections of advisors who warned of Kushner's inexperience and the risk involved. Oh, so she's saying it's a payoff of some sorts. Which it sure looks like. Well, yeah, but then again... Yeah, who knows?

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Joe Biden, Election Integrity, Fascism Definition

President Joe Biden makes comments regarding election reform and preventing future attempts to "steal an election," which the hosts interpret as a verbal slip. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre defends the administration's use of the term "semi-fascism" to describe MAGA Republicans. The hosts analyze the formal definition of fascism in relation to current political rhetoric.

joe biden· karine jean-pierre· maga· fascism· election reform· voting rights

18:40 Who knows? So we have no idea what's behind that and where if there's real money or if it's designed for something or or if it's or if he's the middleman for a payoff. No, we don't know any of course. Yeah, we don't know anything. We don't know anything. It's a great speculate time to speculate but it doesn't help. Our current president Biden was out and about and yelling and screaming about stuff and being mumbly and he said something that again You can say, look the guy's just gone, he has no mental capabilities left, this is a mistake. But when he said it, you know, you gotta think, is this the truth coming out? Protect voting rights, we'll pass election reform and make sure no one, no one ever has the opportunity to steal an election again. Again? Wow, that's a good one, I missed it, great clip. To steal an election again.

19:40 Yeah, I mean, I think it's a grammatical structural issue and it could have been no one want you I think he left the word out he did something but you're right It came out as though the election was stolen and who would have stolen it Biden? Yes. Well, it was there was no Trump claimed it was stolen and Biden just kind of confirms it so Biden went on to call Ultra MAGA a bunch of fascists and And then I guess Jean-Paul Pierre Proudhon or whatever her name is. Kareem Abdul Jean-Pierre Van Damme, yes. She ended up doubling down and she was really into it because she used to be, you have to remember this, she used to be on MSNBC a lot. Yeah. And while she was on there she was just slamming the slamming the maggots and so she felt that she was in her element for a few minutes in front of the press. Did you just say slamming the maggots?

20:34 Just slamming the magazines. Sounds kind of cool, I don't know, it's like, it sounds like something you do in a bar. Yeah, so now this was a question from a British journalist which made it just somehow better, I think. I was very very clear when laying out and defining what MAGA Republicans have done, and you look at the definition of fascism and you think about what they're doing in attacking our democracy, what they're doing in taking away our freedoms, taking away, wanting

21:25 to take away our rights, our voting rights. I mean, that is what that is. It is very clear. And that's why he made that powerful speech that you heard from him last night. And he has not shied away from saying that. So I did look up the definition of fascism so I can see how in her mind a political philosophy movement or regime such as that of the fascisti that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized, this is where it falls apart, autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation and forcible suppression of opposition.

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Bill Maher, Rob Reiner, Hunter Biden Laptop

On "Real Time with Bill Maher," the host confronts Rob Reiner and Senator Amy Klobuchar regarding the media's suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. Maher references Sam Harris's admission that the suppression was a justified "conspiracy" to prevent Donald Trump's re-election. The hosts observe Reiner's visible agitation during the exchange.

bill maher· rob reiner· amy klobuchar· hunter biden· sam harris· msnbc

22:10 So I can see how someone who is on the left, extreme left, has lost the plot. Don't you think the forcible suppression of opposition existed right within her little speech there? That's suppression. She's the fascist. Yeah, of course, but that's, hello, wat je zegt, ben je zelf. But I can see how they see it. This clip will exemplify that. And I'm so sad I have not had an opportunity to see the entire episode because based on this it's going to be a clip fest. Rob Reiner and Amy Klobuchar were on Bill Maher. Did you see this? Not yet. Yeah, me neither. But I do have this one clip where Bill Maher, soon to be jobless Bill Maher or lifeless Bill Maher,

23:03 Brought up the hunter Biden laptop and the Sam Harris admission where he said no no no you know we just suppress that That's okay. It's okay when you have Trump that then it's okay to do that so Bill Maher questions these two Over this press doing this anything is justified in preventing them from taking office is it no no you know it's not justified using armed violence to try to kill people in the Capitol. That's not justified. Answer this question. Answer this question. What is the question? The question is, was it appropriate to bury the Hunter Biden's- You're talking about the press doing that? He's saying that's what they did and that is what they did. They buried the Hunter Biden story before the election because they were like, we can't risk having the election thrown to Trump.

23:53 We'll tell them after the election. And we know for a fact that that's what they did? Of course, you don't follow this? You know for a fact that that's what they did? I don't know what they did. I know because you only watch MSNBC. No, that's not true. Well, then you would know about this. I do know about that. Well, you're acting like you know. I do know about that and I do watch Fox, but the point is We're going to prove now that the press tried to... They're admitting it. The press is admitting it. Yes, that's not even an issue anymore. They're saying, yes, we basically did this because we didn't want this to throw the election.

24:30 I don't know that they've all said this and I believe strongly in the First Amendment. My dad was a reporter, I believe in it. And I think you have to make sure that you're treating people fairly. But I think Rob's point here is that we are dealing with a man who used to be the president right now who literally tried to lead an armed insurrection. And that's why we're so focused on this right now. And I have not been, as you've noticed, as bombastic. is my friend here. About what's gonna happen coming out of what they just got out of Mar-a-Lago. I don't know. And just as I don't know what's gonna happen in these cases, I believe you gotta let the Justice Department do their jobs.

25:21 You know, she has such a nervous quality to her voice. You know, she just sounds like she's shaking. You heard Reiner though, these people are unhinged. Not like we didn't know, but he's unhinged. Oh, Reiner's always been unhinged. But he knows this. What I heard him doing there is not like How am I gonna cover this up? I think he was taken aback. Holy shit. Did Bill Maher just put me on the spot like this? That's what I think happened there. And he got mad and then Bill Maher went, you only watch MSNBC. Ooh. I wonder if Rob Reiner still has Hollywood juice, man. I don't think so. You don't think he has juice?

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Mark Zuckerberg, Joe Rogan, FBI Censorship

Mark Zuckerberg appears on the Joe Rogan Experience and reveals that the FBI warned Facebook about potential "Russian propaganda" dumps prior to the 2020 election. Zuckerberg explains that Facebook throttled the distribution of the Hunter Biden laptop story based on this general warning. The hosts compare Facebook's algorithmic suppression to Twitter's outright ban of the story.

mark zuckerberg· joe rogan· fbi· facebook· twitter· russian disinformation

26:14 Reiner comes from a comedic family and and Mar is a comedian and there's something They're great. I think that I don't think they match hmm I think their personalities conflict maybe I could be wrong, but I can't see the two of them hanging out I think the most logical clip from here is your Zuckerberg clip Which I presume is the whole clip that of him the important clip we were hearing on of him on Rogan. I It's the main one that was clipped from Rogan. I think it covers the whole thing. How do you guys handle things when they're a big news item that's controversial? Like there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden- By the way, I think Zuckerberg is a great get for Joe. And he came to the studio, which was also good. Did you see how Zuckerberg- Well, what's interesting

27:07 Yeah, I agree with you because nobody else brings out Zuckerberg and brings him to a normality. No, he's always in his office or in his house in Hawaii. No, not only that, but he's been interviewed on the road by different people and there's been a lot of them that have failed because he's a little off-putting and he doesn't like He doesn't like a lot of people. He's autistic in some funny way. But for some reason he felt, he looked very normal. Much more so than when he's in Congress. Yeah, the thing that got me was his headphones. He had his headphones like on the back of his head. Instead of on the, you know, just like a man. He probably, just because he wants to show off his great head of hair. Oh, is that it? Okay. A beautiful short hair. Yeah, I'm gonna roll it back a little bit.

27:57 Yeah, so you like there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the hunter Biden laptop story the new yeah We know no the reason he did that he has those pointy alien ears So he has to kind of move the head the cans otherwise his ears hurt Yeah, so you guys censored that as well. So we took a different path than Twitter I mean basically the background here is the FBI I think basically came to us basically some folks on our team basically now This is the part where we're missing a key piece of information that we got when Mark Zuckerberg was in Time magazine man of the year when Robert Mueller

28:38 This is in Time Magazine. Robert Mueller pops his head in the office where Zuckerberg is being interviewed for Time Magazine and says, hey I was just down in my office down the hall and just wanted to say hi. The FBI didn't just contact their folks, the FBI is at the desk next to them. Just for context basically came to us some folks on our team. It was like hey Just so you know like you should be on high alert there was the we thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election we have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of That's similar to that so just be vigilant and

29:21 So, our protocol is different from Twitter's. What Twitter did is they said, you can't share this at all. We didn't do that. What we do is we have, if something is reported to us as potentially misinformation, important misinformation, we also have this third-party fact-checking program because we don't want to be deciding what's true and false. And for the I think it was five or seven days when it was basically being determined whether it was false. The distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still allowed to share it. So you could still share it, you could still consume it. Can we say the distribution has decreased? It got shared. How does that work? I like how you consume it on Facebook. You're a consumer, you consume the information. Basically the ranking in News Feed was a little bit less. A little bit less. Fewer people saw it than would have otherwise. By what percentage? I don't know off the top of my head. It's fuzzy. It's meaningful.

30:17 But, I mean, basically, a lot of people are still able to share it. We got a lot of complaints that that was the case. Obviously, this is a hyper-political issue, so depending on what's out of the political spectrum, you either think we didn't censor it enough or censored it way too much. But we weren't sort of as black and white about it as Twitter. We just kind of thought, hey, look, if the FBI, which I still view as a legitimate institution in this country, it's a very professional law enforcement, they come to us and tell us that we need to be on guard about something, then I want to take that seriously. Did they specifically say you need to be on guard about that story? I know I don't remember if it was that specifically but it was it basically fit the pattern couple of things one

31:00 The pattern, if it's a pattern, that means they might as well have said something about it being specifically that, but they didn't. I have to assume that the FBI also has its hooks into Twitter, and Twitter just took the bait and just said, okay, we're going to kill the story. That has to be the case. There's no way around it. What's interesting is, I don't think Joe asked about Twitter, he asked about Facebook. No, he did at the beginning. No, I mean, no, he never asked about Twitter, but Zuckerberg at the beginning talked about Twitter. No, Zuckerberg talked about it through a whole thing up until the end. He's like, well, Twitter did. So we weren't like Twitter. It wasn't Twitter. We're not Twitter. Twitter did that. It wasn't that bad. But the FBI

31:46 And then he says at the end, he says, what they didn't specifically say it was about the laptop, but it fit the pattern. So there was some, there was some probably beat around the bush. And the real pattern was, of course, when the thing rolled out is the 17 agencies and Clapper and everybody in between saying, oh yeah, Russia disinformation. It's so obvious to anyone. It's disinformation from the Russians, which is part of the pattern. The sad thing is, To people who understand what this means, like, wow, that's pretty brazen, that's how it works, these people can't be trusted. I'm afraid most people are like, well, that makes total sense. Of course we should do that. This is the way it should work. It protects us from Russian disinformation.

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

European Resistance, Hillary Clinton, Political Liars

The hosts discuss the lack of meaningful resistance to government overreach in Europe and the United States. They pivot to Hillary Clinton, criticizing her for adopting "The Resistance" branding after the 2016 election despite initially promising to help the incoming administration.

netherlands· hillary clinton· resistance· capitulation· political rhetoric

32:34 Someone asked me yesterday at the conference, do you think in Europe, in the Netherlands, do you think that people eventually, are they getting close to being so fed up that we see a real resistance? I said, no. The Germans invaded him, they capitulated, gave him their bikes within six hours. No, and not in Europe and not in America and nowhere. No one knows hardships. No, no. So the same thing, you know, Rob Reiner will listen to this and go, well that's great, law enforcement doing its job. That's the sad thing, is people don't... Yeah, I agree with that. There's no evidence that there's any way that this is going to go any further than it would do. I mean, it's just going back and forth the way it's going. We try to deconstruct it and show you what's really happening. But it doesn't mean anything. It just means that there's...

33:29 Back and forth goes like a tennis game. It doesn't mean anything Well, it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean there's a revolution coming. There's no revolution here all your life You know and left is gonna be all the revolution is the time for the revolution time to resist resist You know the resistance in fact like I still have things somewhat irksome like some other things that bother me is that Right after the election of Trump, Hillary Clinton says she's gonna do what she can to help him. And the next thing you know on her Twitter feed it says, The Resistance. She's not gonna help him. She didn't help him. She's a liar. That was a great... What happened? I thought I clipped that. Hillary... Oh man. Did I not clip that? Hillary Clinton did like some... She and Chelsea have a... Oh, that's odd.

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Gutsy TV Show, Kim Kardashian, Hillary Clinton

Hillary and Chelsea Clinton promote their Apple TV+ series "Gutsy," which features a legal trivia contest against Kim Kardashian. Kardashian reportedly defeated the former Secretary of State 11 to 4. The hosts mock the production quality and Chelsea's admission that the "buzzer" sounds were added in post-production.

hillary clinton· chelsea clinton· kim kardashian· gutsy· apple tv plus· legal trivia

34:22 I guess it didn't clip. Oh, here it is. Yes. She and Chelsea have a reality show called Gutsy. It's on Apple Plus because you know it's quality. Apple Plus. Hey, Apple Plus. Where do we bury this thing, Bill? Put it on Apple Plus for God's sake. Nobody listens to that. I got to say, Apple Plus, you know, I'm usually like, hey, if it's on Apple Plus, then, you know, they, a lot of money went into it probably. So they have this Apple Plus show and then they bring on strong women, gutsy, gutsy, gutsy chicks. And they brought on Kim Kardashian. Now, so they do a knowledge quiz and Kim Kardashian kicked Hillary's ass like 11 to 4.

35:00 And this is how it was reported. In their new Apple TV Plus show, Gutsy, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton found unique ways to shine a light on the important work being done by both celebrities and everyday heroes. The mother-daughter duo opened up about the legal trivia contest with criminal justice reform advocate Kim Kardashian that proved particularly humbling for one of them. Under what circumstances may one use deadly force to defend themselves? Yes. when one is being faced with deadly force themselves or one believes that deadly force is imminent. Was it humbling to lose that contest to her secretary? Oh, it was heartbreaking. Oh my gosh. I think it's also just easy to work on her reaction time, Sandra. It's like sometimes I could see my mom knew what the answer was but she wouldn't hit the buzzer in time. Well, I was also really intrigued by how well she did. I wanted to

35:52 You know put the spotlight on her not that she needs it, but she's worth I want to pan it to a brown person It's really hard to get that No, I'm not saying that I'm not it's more the reaction time, but it was like I don't think you could really see that because they do like the buzzer sort of soundtrack in the series But what you don't see is like you know Kim would hit it and then I'll be like oh wait no I would hit it too. So she has to work on her reaction to everything. Yeah, that's who you want for president. Someone who has no response time. Sounds about right. Notice also how Chelsea gives it away and says, well, you know, it's just fucking phony buttons. They put the soundtrack in later. Yeah, good work. Couldn't even take the little effort to rig up the buttons. I mean, buttons. Oh, I sent you a picture. Did you see the picture of your buttons?

36:43 No, I did not see a picture of my buttons. I sent you a picture. How did you send it? Through email. You never read my emails. I do, I go through them all the time. I've gone through every email you've ever sent. And the subject was buttons. Let me look up buttons. You got a he, him, she, her, they, them, and a blank one you can fill out yourself. Which would be ni, nir, nem. Ni, nir, nem. Sorry. You'd think they would have those already prepared, the needn't or nimbs. No, no, no, no, no, no. They thought it would be too dangerous because if Ben Shapiro saw someone, they might melt. Well, it's not under the title buttons, so let's start with that little issue. What is it under? I don't know. I looked up buttons and there's nothing there. No, we don't have to bore everybody with our email wreckage. Well, I don't know. You want to switch topics? I got a couple things to talk about. What would you want to talk about? People dying.

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Mark Steyn, Matt Le Tissier, Athlete Collapses

On GB News, Mark Steyn interviews former England soccer captain Matt Le Tissier regarding the rise in sudden collapses among young, healthy athletes. Le Tissier calls for an investigation into these incidents, which he claims are being normalized by the media. The hosts link the discussion to broader concerns about vaccine side effects.

mark steyn· matt le tissier· gb news· athlete health· cardiac arrest· soccer

37:42 I figured we could do something uplifting. Well that's depressing, I don't think that's going to be any fun. Well it is kind of fun because Mark Stein who, by the way this GB News, that's catching some steam over there in the UK. I thought, you know, I was like, does anyone watch this thing? But even, who's the guy, Mark from Clean Feed. I told you I met Mark from Clean Feed. Nice guy, Brit, you know, doesn't understand Texans with their guns, doesn't understand, you know, he also said- I don't get why they got the guns. Well, we've gotten to a nice little conversation. He said, do you know that there's more knife crime in America than in the UK? I'm like, okay, all right, you're probably right, whatever. But he said, you know, this GB News, it's really catching, and he's a broadcast guy, so he would know. So it's catching,

38:27 catching some steam, Mark Stein, maybe one of their lead guys, I don't know, but he had on... Well, hold on. I don't want to stop you here on this, but... I got nothing from you here on this email. I got screwball, I got you saying thousands dead, you sent me a forward of correct please 480, you sent me a forward of the newsletter suppression alert, you sent me a forward JCD is off and is musky history which needs to be read. I don't have anything on the buttons. You sent me nothing? Well let me check my sent box. I mean, I'm... hmm... yeah, well...

39:06 Maybe you're right. Maybe I didn't. That's probably the reason I don't read a lot of your email. Yeah, because I never send them to you. He's not going to read it anyway. Get my name spelled wrong. Oh, there you go. Okay. So Mark Stein had on his show eight-time England soccer team captain. So these are the guys that played the big international games, World Cup, Ueva Cup, all that. Matt Leticier, And he is very disturbed by what he sees with young athletes in England. You've asked for a proper investigation into what is going on here. I take it you just suddenly noticed that there were footballers and boxers and rugby players dying more often than they should be.

39:59 Very much so Mark, I've been involved in sport all my life, not only that I watch a hell of a lot of sport, it's pretty much the only thing I watch on the television and I have seen so many people, so many incidents of young fit healthy sports people collapsing on their fields of play and it's just not normal and yet The media seem to be normalising it and nobody seems to be paying any attention whatsoever to this huge rise that has gone on and for the authorities in charge of these sports to not notice it or not to be calling for an investigation I think is

40:40 absolutely scandalous and I have been trying and hopefully I'll get a meeting soon with the powers that be in football to try and put evidence before them to show them just what is happening because they don't seem to want to investigate it themselves and I think that's criminal. There you go, he's a criminal. Well, it's just because of the diet. It's because of global warming. No, there's a new one. According to the Daily Mail, who gets this from a study? I might as well just check out and see which study this was. Let me see. Study is for researchers. Let me see. Who were the researchers? Researchers examined lynx. No, do they not say? Interesting. Professor Sir Nilesh of the British Heart Foundation. Ah, yes.

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Car Fumes, Heavy Braking, Heart Attack Risk

The British Heart Foundation releases a study suggesting that car fumes and dust from heavy braking increase the risk of heart attacks. The hosts express skepticism, suggesting the study is a "logical inconsistency" designed to discourage driving and provide cover for other health issues.

british heart foundation· car fumes· brake dust· heart attacks· environmental health

41:30 Yes, okay. He would know. He would know and he says car fumes from exhaust and heavy braking. Heavy braking raise the risk of heart attacks. That's right. Car fumes and heavy braking. How is the heavy braking? Well, today's brake pads aren't made with asbestos anymore. So the material used is probably, I guess... Oh no wait, combustion? Here it is. Oh, combustion, abrasion from brakes and tires and dust! Oh, tires, this is a big deal now. You're talking about... By the way, which doesn't... There's a climate change thing there.

42:14 There's a logical inconsistency with this tire complaining, but tires, you know, slough off as they go, you drive around and the rubber come off. Yeah, it's like sloughing off. But the tires last a lot longer. So I don't get how these tires are are basically falling, you know, just dissolving as you're driving around into little bits of rubber, which is flying all over the place. And the tires are lasting longer. It's just something about it doesn't make sense. But it's just an issue. Well, this does make sense to me because I recall there was an article I'm looking up right now about tires. Yes, here we go. The Atlantic. Car tires are a major pollution problem. Environmental impact of a car tire.

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

CBS News, COVID-19 Vaccine Data, Age Adjustment

CBS News reports on data showing that deaths among vaccinated individuals now outnumber those among the unvaccinated. A medical expert explains that this is due to "age adjustment," as the majority of high-risk elderly people are vaccinated. The hosts criticize the report for pivoting the data into a recommendation for more booster shots.

cbs news· covid-19· vaccinated deaths· age adjustment· boosters· omicron

43:04 Tire makers tackling climate change with eco-friendly tires. So here's how I would do it. Here's how I would do it. Here we go. Climate change, because of the tires, is killing people. So stop driving people. Wooden tires. There's an element to stop driving that's true. Then there's a German study that finds that the COVID vaccine is 40 times deadlier than we think, than we think, I don't know who it is, if it's him or we, but that's bad. We. And CBS, well, they... Well, they have some answers to this. There's a new chart making the rounds on social media and it's easy to misinterpret what it's telling you. It appears to say most people dying of COVID-19 lately are actually fully vaccinated. CBS 17 digital reporter, Jody McCrary is fact checking it. Now what this chart shows is deaths in vaccinated people now outnumber those among the unvaccinated. But an expert tells me it leaves out a very important detail. How old those people are.

44:07 Look closer at this chart you may have seen online. At some point after February, weekly deaths in vaccinated people surpassed those who didn't get a vaccine. That's the black line moving over the blue one. But UNC Dr. David Weber says what it's missing is age. Most of the cases we're seeing now of deaths, or many of them, are in older people, much like we saw two years ago. The majority of older people in particular because of their risks for COVID are vaccinated. So it's not surprising if the majority of people are vaccinated, even if the vaccines are working, the majority of deaths will be in people who are vaccinated.

44:47 That's why the chart from the State Department of Health and Human Services includes a key phrase, age adjusted. The real question is not what percentage of deaths or hospitalization are in vaccinated or unvaccinated. It's by age, what's the risk of death in vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals. And because we know immunity fades over time, it also highlights how important boosters are, including the ones coming soon that target the Omicron variants. So that's really the question that you need to ask. Yes, sir.

45:22 How do they turn this report into get another shot? I know, I know, it's beautiful. It's so skillful. Boosters are, including the ones coming soon that target the Omicron variants. So that's really the question that you need to ask is vaccinated versus unvaccinated. What age group? And then did you have two, three or four doses? And in my story online, find out why Dr. Weber compares those COVID deaths to car wrecks. Oh yes, oh boobie, he's got it on the money boobie. So I guess if you're old you're gonna die. It happens. And they don't care. Well, I mean the vaccine clearly is killing older people. They didn't give enough shots is the problem. Yes, they need another shot. So in Australia there's an interesting little speech here by a barrister

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Julian Gillespie, Australian Medical Negligence, Doctor Liability

Australian barrister Julian Gillespie delivers a legal opinion regarding the personal liability of doctors and public officials involved in the COVID-19 vaccine rollout. Gillespie argues that practitioners may be liable for gross negligence and misfeasance in public office. The hosts suggest similar legal challenges may eventually emerge in the United States.

julian gillespie· australia· medical negligence· covid-19 vaccine· tort law· apra

46:20 And I, funny enough, I just asked my friend Mark from Clean Feed, what is the difference between a solicitor and a barrister? And I still don't really understand, but a solicitor is like your lawyer, and a barrister, that's like someone who can do special things and bring cases and, I don't know, can probably have tea with the queen. So it's not just some schlub lawyer, the barrister has some power. He's up a notch. He's up a notch. And this is Julian Gillespie. And he is giving his opinion in, I don't know which parliament he's giving or hearing, he's giving his opinion of the legal and perhaps tort responsibility of doctors

47:03 and lawmakers. That would be the people he's speaking to, which is kind of funny when you see their faces. Due to the scale of the rollout, it now appears tens of thousands of practitioners have repeatedly performed medical treatments, properly termed gross medical and or professional negligence, with respect to patients receiving the COVID-19 injectables, where each practitioner has no immunity from government whatsoever. So these practitioners are therefore personally and professionally liable to actions for medical negligence from their patients receiving COVID-19 injectables, particularly those patients who subsequently died or suffered adverse side effects from the COVID-19 injectables. Additionally,

47:48 Due to the illegal nature of the AFRA and National Boards joint statement, it does also appear that the public officers of AFRA and the National Boards responsible for the creation and publication of the 9 March 2021 statement are now legally exposed to the action of misfeasance in public office. As the harm to COVID-19 vaccine victims was foreseeable in terms of these still remaining experimental gene-based therapies, these vaccine victims and future victims who later develop vaccine-related injuries and illnesses can sue the public offices of APRA and the national boards in their personal capacity.

48:33 A further liability in the same public offices appears available to those registered practitioners who improperly administered the COVID-19 injectables in breach of their codes of conduct. Should those health practitioners subsequently be sued by their patients and they have to pay damages to their patients, then those health practitioners may in turn be able to sue the public officers of APRA and the National Boards for coercing and threatening them to ignore their codes of conduct. Such illegal action again would be the tort of misfeasance in public office. We'll see.

49:13 I'll give you a clip of the day for that one. Oh, thank you. Well, appreciate it. And there are... That's the same case... This is the same thing's gonna happen here. I think so. And a lot of these doctors should be ashamed of themselves for doing what they did. And especially the ones who came on TV and keep, we got a guy here, some guy Wang or Wong, whatever his name is, some character comes in from UCSF and he's on CBS, our local affiliate constantly. He's on all the stations and he's just, yeah, more shots, get more shots, another booster. You know, that's all he talks about. Get that guy, booster, booster, booster. And this guy should be, I don't know.

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

Rochelle Walensky, CDC Guidance, Lockdown Accountability

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky avoids answering whether COVID-19 lockdowns went too far, stating that many decisions predated her tenure. She defends the agency's actions as being based on "imperfect data" at the time. The hosts characterize this as part of a "great walkback" by public health officials.

rochelle walensky· cdc· lockdowns· public health policy· anthony fauci· data evolution

49:56 I think it should be liable. And also in Canada, we have the situation where the doctors can't even say anything, can't even express an opinion about, well, I don't know if this shot's right for you. Lock them up, lock them up. And the fact that they could go after, in this case, I think it was the equivalent of maybe the CDC, NIH, that could go after people personally, hold them personally liable, which of course is why Fauci is disappearing now. The Great Walkback, He's on. Here is CDC Director Volensky. Just listen to this horse crap. Director, do you think the lockdowns went too far? You know, many of those lockdowns predated me at the CDC. Here is what I can tell you since my time at the CDC and watching it even. Why didn't she just answer that question?

50:43 Oh, that predates me. Just so you know, I had nothing to do with that. I'm not going to answer any questions. Here is what I can tell you since my time at the CDC and watching it even beforehand. And that is there were important decisions that we had to make in imperfect time with imperfect data. And we always updated those decisions as those data were evolving. As we got more data, we had more information by which we could make better decisions. So I don't necessarily want to revisit the question of lockdowns that predated me. But what I will say is we have updated our guidance in the context of new information. And sometimes we have to make a decision before we have all the information that we want. And I've said to our agency, not making a decision is a decision in and of itself.

51:30 So she doesn't want to say anything about lockdown, but this question will come up for her because they're gonna try it again, no doubt. And what else did she have? Oh yeah, wasn't the science? Follow the science? The science, science, science. Don't attack me, I represent science. Yeah, but the data changed. Everything I heard was, the data shows us. Remember the first data, three million dead. That was the first data, came out of England, three million dead. These people, again I don't know if... Are we just whistling in the wind John? Are we just out there, hey everybody? Yeah. Now there's... Have you figured that out? Mike Tyson, have you seen Mike Tyson recently? No, why? He's in a wheelchair, he's grown a beard, he walks with a cane, he looks like an old man and you know he is on, I think I saw a video

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

Mike Tyson, Health Struggles, Sciatica Flare-up

Images of Mike Tyson in a wheelchair at an airport go viral, sparking concerns about his health. While Tyson attributes the situation to a sciatica flare-up, the hosts speculate on his physical decline and mention his previous comments about being pressured to get vaccinated for work.

mike tyson· wheelchair· sciatica· health rumors· boxing· aging

52:27 where he says, well I was basically beaten into submission to get the vaccine because you know without me no one earns any money so I really didn't want to do it but I did it and now you see the guy he I mean he physically looks like he aged 20 years. Really? Yeah just look just look just look at the book of knowledge. Well they've been suppressing this information. Just take a look just do a search for buttons. Mike Tyson. Tyson wheelchair. Tell me what you think he looks like. Maybe I'm missing some information, but I'm not sure exactly what. I think it was... What was his problem? He had... Let me see... Mike Tyson. You see him? You see him in the wheelchair? Yeah. Here's he... Let's see...

53:24 Like Tyson's spot in a wheelchair, man. I mean pics go viral. There you go. Yeah, viral, viral. Oh, he says it's a sciatica flare-up, which can be very painful. That's why... Who was it again that kept saying he had sciatica, who was just clearly... Was it Nadler? Yeah, Jerry Nadler. Oh, I fall down all the time because I have sciatica. But look at Tyson, man. He looks old. Look at that face. I hope you all are playing along. If you have a podcast in Q.O app, you can see it right now. Dreb Scott put that image right there in the chapter so you can see it. Doesn't look good, does he? No, he doesn't look good. But who knows? He's still buffed. Oh yes, Djokovic.

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Moderna Patent Lawsuit, Pfizer, mRNA Technology

Moderna files a lawsuit against Pfizer and BioNTech, alleging that their COVID-19 vaccine infringes on Moderna's foundational mRNA patents. Pfizer vows to defend its proprietary technology. The hosts discuss the timing of the lawsuit and the massive profits generated by both companies during the pandemic.

moderna· pfizer· biontech· mrna· patent infringement· intellectual property

55:01 But no, if you want to come to the United States and you're not a citizen or a resident, you're not allowed. If you're unvaccinated, you're not allowed. A-holes. Yeah, it's really bad policy. You're right. Well, there's a couple more things. Oh yeah, the lawsuit. I think Like we knew this wasn't coming. I think you have a clip or two about this. This is an overview. Tonight, Moderna suing vaccine giant Pfizer and BioNTech, accusing its rival of violating patents on groundbreaking mRNA technology used in its COVID shots.

55:39 The biotech startup saying, we believe that Pfizer and BioNTech unlawfully copied Moderna's inventions and they have continued to use them without permission. Pfizer says it was surprised by the lawsuit, adding its own vaccine was based on BioNTech's proprietary mRNA technology. We remain confident in our intellectual property supporting the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and will vigorously defend against the allegations of the lawsuit. some are arguing at least in an emergency situation, we need to at least temporarily waive patent rights to get more shots in arms. But Moderna is not demanding any halt in the sales of Pfizer vaccines. Last year, Moderna and Pfizer reported $54 billion in COVID vaccine sales combined. Pfizer selling twice what Moderna did, the highest one year total for a pharmaceutical product

56:29 in history and the stakes are high. mRNA technology is being used to develop drugs for everything from HIV to autoimmune and cardiovascular diseases to cancer. Yeah, all right. It's going to be great. mRNA fest. So there's a couple of things. You know what, when this first happened, when the first vaccines came out, and I knew Moderna had the patent on the idea of a workable mRNA, which has never been, you can't really get a workable mRNA if you go through the normal process of animal testing because they all die. They still don't have a workable mRNA. That's true, they still don't have one. But assuming that they had, they thought they had one here, it was obvious to everybody that

57:15 Pfizer-BioNTech had to have taken the same idea and just, you know, tweak it. It has to be a patent violation. Hold on a second. It had to be. How about this idea? How about Pfizer puts up kind of a weak fight just before we find out how lethal this is to certain people or age groups and then, well, hey, Moderna's patent How about that one? Would that work? Would that be possible? It would work. I think it might work if... but since Moderna triggered this, they'd be asking for trouble. Well, they're dumb! I mean, this is what's beautiful. How come they didn't sue right away? Why did it take this long? That's the question I have to ask.

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Comirnaty Advertisements, Pediatric Vaccines, FDA Approval

The hosts discuss the emergence of television advertisements for Comirnaty, the FDA-approved version of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. They note the ads specifically target teenagers and children, and they mock the extensive list of side effects required in the commercial's fine print.

comirnaty· pfizer· fda approval· pediatric vaccine· pharmaceutical ads· side effects

58:01 Well, what they said was they didn't want to have any patent fight while the pandemic was still raging. Oh, okay. That's what it is. Okay, we'll just take half your profits. Yeah, kind of that. So meanwhile in California, at least, I don't know if you've got these out there, we've got Comirnaty ads. Finally, it's like the only FDA approved vaccine. And they're advertising on television now. Have you seen these? No, but can you actually get it or is it just an ad? Well, it's an interesting ad. I'm gonna have to record it for the next show if I don't remember. Oh, I thought someone sent me that. If you got it, you can dig it up and play it. But a couple of things. One is Comirnaty. It's not Pfizer. And they say specifically Pfizer-BioNTech. They're bringing them in. So it's possible. And it's only for the teens. It's 12 to, like, 8 to 16 or something. It's for kids.

58:54 It's a kid's vaccine. They don't advertise it for adults. And they're pushing kids because they got to get the kids shot up. And then they play all the side effects at the end. And it's just like, God, who's going to take this? It does this, it does that. It does this, it does that. Causes this, it causes that. So it's honest. I know I have this but I don't know exactly. How do you spell Comnardi? Com-in-ardi or Com-near-ardi? It's C-O-M-I. Uh-huh. N? C-O-M-I. I'll just C-O-M-I. Let's see how I do with that. Oh man, someone's... You know, but someone said to me didn't put in commercial. I know it's like, hey, here's a great ad and you know, try and search on ad. That's always fun. Oh good. Here, I'll try this.

59:46 Maybe you'll get lucky. It's worth it because it's I was for sure I somehow I thought that you would have that one I don't know my mistake Yes, okay, so I would like actually I was pretty sure I was gonna have it too, but I didn't I what I would like to know is is that actually what they're giving or is it still the same stuff I mean, it's the same false advertising. It has to be the real deal and it's only as targeted so they don't have a lot of it and And it's for kids. Hey, kids. Just for kids. Now with Lucky Charms. Nice. Just one more big pharma...

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Over-the-Counter Hearing Aids, Bloomberg, Silicon Valley

The FDA approves the sale of over-the-counter hearing aids, a move praised by media outlets and politicians like Elizabeth Warren. The hosts argue this is a "corrupt" shift that allows tech companies to sell less sophisticated devices without professional fitting. They highlight the involvement of the Bloomberg School of Public Health in promoting the change.

hearing aids· fda· elizabeth warren· bloomberg· johns hopkins· silicon valley

1:00:22 I've been on this story, so I'm just gonna play a little bit of this of this clip just to show you how corrupt how corrupt all these people are this is Bloomberg and They're doing a story about this fabulous bill that has now enabled Americans to get hearing aids for almost free almost favorite topic I hate it so much so just to review quickly real hearing aids are incredibly expensive because of a relatively small market for very powerful miniaturized audio computing devices. Nothing has changed in this bill other than people who make much less sophisticated systems, who are already selling them over the counter for $500 or $300 and you stick them in your ear and you connect it to your phone and it goes beep beep beep beep beep and then all of a sudden your hearing is better.

1:01:15 They are now allowed to be called hearing aids. So people, consumers, thank you Elizabeth Warren, think that they're buying hearing aids but they're really buying some shit from Silicon Valley and this is how Bloomberg and and the medical community and doctors are complicit in this. The doctor in this certainly knows he's full of shit, he's lying. But we've got something else that has the effect on a lot of Americans very soon, Paul. Yeah, I wasn't even kind of had this on my radar until a couple days ago, but you know the FDA is coming out and saying hearing aids

1:01:51 can be sold over the counter and that is just fantastic I think for a lot of people. Let's bring in an expert who can help us out here. Dr. Frank Lynn, director of the Cochlear Center for Hearing at the Johns Hopkins Public School of Public Health. He joins us on the phone. Yeah please note this is from Johns Hopkins. From Baltimore and we should note that the Bloomberg School of Public Health is supported by Michael R. Bloomberg, founder of Bloomberg LP. Oh this is great! Great, so it's Bloomberg with a Bloomberg-sponsored hospital, a school, oh, it's fantastic. What could possibly be corrupt about this? And Bloomberg Philanthropies. Dr. Lin, I mean... To me, this sounds like a big deal, because there are a lot of folks out there that can really benefit from hearing aids, but is this going to make it significantly easier and hopefully lower the cost for hearing aids for these folks? Oh yeah, absolutely, Paul. I mean, this has been eight years in the planning. The slide came out a few days ago, but it's been eight years in the planning. I mean, there are 40 million Americans with hearing loss. Eight years in the planning? What the hell? What is he talking about, eight years in the planning?

1:02:52 What does that mean? I don't know. I mean, it's just... Oh yeah, absolutely, Paul. It's been eight years in the planning. It just came out a few days ago. Eight years. Eight years in the planning. I mean, there are 40 million Americans with hearing loss. I mean, to put that in perspective, that basically means two-thirds, everyone over 70, has a hearing loss. What? Couldn't hear you. You know, as we work in the National Academies a few years ago, the average cost of hearing aids a few years ago was $4,700. $4,700, yes, that was the average cost of hearing aids. Which, I mean, from the perspective, that basically means it could be the third largest material purchase in life for the average American after a house and a car, which is just a bit crazy. Wow.

1:03:32 That's perspective. That is perspective and having helped my dad many years ago get one, they are expensive, it was cumbersome and I have to say sometimes I think the design could be a lot easier especially for older people who are trying to kind of manage on their own. Oh don't worry, here comes Silicon Valley to the rescue with Lies. Tell us a little bit about this move, what does it mean for the companies that might get involved in offering it out to consumers and patients who need it? Yes, so you know one of the reasons why they were or they still are so expensive is because of how they're regulated. So the current or I see now the past FDA regulates for hearing aids were established back in 1987. Oh that's why they're expensive. And back then they said hearing aids could only be sold to a licensed provider like an ENT or an audiologist or a hearing instrument specialist. And listen that made sense back then because the only way for hearing aids to be

1:04:21 safe and effective, but they really had to be properly programmed by selling back. They're all analog devices. Oh, okay. Wait, is there some magic that's taking place? Fast forward 45 years later, not the case anymore. So what the FDA is doing now, essentially, I would say really opening up the market, sort of that classic example of smart regulation here, where in the past, because hearing it's going to be sold through licensed providers, you get five manufacturer in the world really dominate by ninety nine percent not ninety nine percent worth marketplace because new companies but they look at you know i mean she could apple or samsung could really enter the curian market because of the good consumers with these new regulations that what's going to find a lot of the happens to any company meeting the criteria can fell and reach directly to consumers which you can imagine will we think pretty dramatically lower cost and

1:05:05 really increase access and more importantly companies will be designing devices for the end user mind like the actual person using it as opposed to being sold to a licensed professional to then resell to the consumer which can sort of pervert how devices are designed sometimes. Okay. It's a perversion the other stuff you're talking about. It's just the only thing I will say as a sound guy it is not It has not been demonstrated to me that there's any hearing aid worth its salt. I've tried several that you can stick in your ears, connect to your phone with an app and then it magically peeps and you touch some stuff and oh yeah and then all of a sudden you hear perfectly. No! You need a professional for that. Maybe there's an aftermarket here for me. Hey did you just get some of those cool Silicon Valley hearing aids and it works for shit? I'll help you set them up.

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Artemis 1 Moon Mission, NASA, Cape Canaveral

NASA prepares for the Artemis 1 mission, the first step in a plan to return humans to the lunar surface. The hosts discuss the history of the name "Cape Canaveral" versus "Cape Kennedy" and the technical goals of the uncrewed flight, which carries dummies and a Snoopy doll to test the Orion spacecraft.

nasa· artemis 1· moon launch· cape canaveral· kennedy space center· orion

1:06:02 It's just it's just maddening. It's so corrupt. It's they're so full of it. Lies. Take me somewhere else. This is your let's go. Let's go to the moon. Oh, yeah Artemis baby Artemis. Where are we going? What are we doing? Who's on? Let me let me ask. Are we gonna fry? Are we gonna fry? So we're gonna talk about what's going on currently, but I'm I was watching the NASA station. There's a NASA TV network that doesn't seem to be easy to find, but they have it in the Bay Area over the air. So it's an OTA station. And if you can get something cool, OTH, you feel great about yourself, don't you? OTA, going OTA.

1:06:53 So I got a, I watched a briefing of the whole project. There's nothing to record, it would be impossible, but I'm gonna explain it after we play these Artemis clips. I have to say, they have come up with the most convoluted way of going to the moon ever. But they're gonna launch a couple of dummies. Wait a minute! Anything's more convoluted than that tin can they sent up. The first time? You have no idea. I don't think anybody has any idea. But when you watch this presentation, it's like, what?

1:07:29 So let's play what's going on now. This is Artemis first. This is the first launch. It's coming up I think later this month or sometimes tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow. It's good if everything's okay Uh-huh, uh-huh, so but let's just listen to this and they don't mention in this report that they're just sending up two dummies Yes, literally dummies and it's not dumb people but dummies and a Snoopy doll. Oh Yeah, of course. Check this out. Some lightning hitting one of the lightning towers at the Artemis 1 launch pad in Cape Canaveral. That's all I got there on that clip. There was some reason I stopped that clip. Let's listen again. The lightning hitting the launch pad. Let's listen in again. NASA says... Oops, sorry. Check this out. Some lightning hitting one of the lightning towers at the Artemis 1 launch pad in Cape Canaveral. Lightning hitting one of the lightning towers is what he said.

1:08:21 Okay, here's what I... When did it go back to Cape... I know it did. Oh, Cape Canaveral. But I was thinking about it. Why isn't it... Why did they stop being Cape Kennedy? Oh, we've asked this question before. I know it was Cape... first it was Canaveral, then it was Kennedy, and then they went back to Canaveral, and I can never remember why... what was wrong with Cape Kennedy? What was wrong with that? He's the one who started the whole thing, the moon idea. Wasn't it... Oh! But why wasn't it Cape Kennedy? Why wasn't it... wasn't it because, you know, that Kennedy nephew killed some girl? No! No? Are you sure? Well, here's the answer. I will consult the book of knowledge for you.

1:09:05 The Cape was known as Cape Kennedy between 63 and 73. President Lyndon Johnson... Oh! Oh, so he changed from Canaveral to Kennedy. Okay. But then who's changed it back? Hmm. I don't know. The knowledge is not helpful. It's not helpful. Okay, well, whatever. Anyways, it's Cape Canaveral. Let's go with part two. NASA says the strikes were low magnitude. Pretty good to name. We're less than 48 hours from a historic moon launch, five decades after NASA's last trip to the moon. Isabel Rosales has a preview of the preparations. We do feel good about our attempt on Monday.

1:09:50 The countdown has officially started for the launch of the Artemis 1 mission to its historic lunar journey from Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The mission will test a new space launch system rocket, Orion spacecraft and other components designed to make deep space travel safer for humans. 50 years after the last Apollo mission, the Artemis 1 mission is the first step in NASA's plan to return humans to the moon. We're going back to the moon in preparation to go to Mars. That's the difference. 50 years ago we went to the moon for a day, a few hours, three days max.

1:10:29 Now we're going back to the moon to stay, to live, to learn, to build. As the launch teams arrived at their stations at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida this morning, all eyes on any potential mishaps. Our potential outcomes on Monday are that we could go within the window or we could scrub for any number of reasons. We could have weather, we could have technical issues, or we could have a range in public safety hold and or a combination of any of those. Okay, I have an answer. There was major consternation over the change from the entire geographic area to Cape Kennedy in 1963 because of the historical significance of the name Cape Canaveral. Finally, in a compromise in 1973, the name Cape Canaveral was given back to the land while Kennedy Space Center remained as NASA's facility.

1:11:31 So it's supposed to be the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral. Got it. Yeah. So I thought the space travel was safe. Why did they... Are they worried about this? I thought it was no problem blasting through the Van Allen belts in a tin can. I thought it was no problem. Don't understand. Well, they're sending the dummies up. So let's go to clip three. If it all goes according to plan, the spacecraft will orbit around the moon, traveling a total of 1.3 million miles over just 42 days before splashing down off the coast of California in October. For now, Artemis One is one step closer to the moon. Its first launch window is Monday between 8.33 and 10.33 a.m. Eastern. Okay. Okay.

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Lunar Gateway, Mars Mission, Space Exploration Complexity

John C. Dvorak explains the "convoluted" plan for the Artemis program, which involves establishing a space station called the Gateway in lunar orbit. The hosts compare the complexity of this mission to the Apollo era and discuss the potential for competition or cooperation between NASA and Elon Musk's SpaceX for future Mars missions.

lunar gateway· mars· saturn v· spacex· elon musk· space station

1:12:16 So, what they're gonna do, if you look at the presentation, is first of all, this is unbelievable by the way. This is exciting. First of all, they're gonna put a space station in orbit around the moon. and let it, it's gonna be there around the moon in some crazy orbit, but it's gonna be around the moon, it's gonna sit there, then they're gonna load it up. Hold on, what do you mean crazy orbit? Why is it a crazy orbit? It's not a normal orbit, it's something, it's not just around the moon spinning around like a maniac. Okay. But it's not important. Then they're gonna take and send some gear to the space station which will include the lunar lander and a launch vehicle to get them off the moon.

1:13:01 Actually, get them on to land on the moon and then the little piece of it will fly back to the space station where it will hook up with a return vehicle to go back to Earth. So that won't go back, it's going to be hooked up with something else. Isn't that kind of what they did the last time only? No, they didn't. The last time they had a vehicle that had the lunar lander on it, and it was floating around, and it went down, but that whole thing came back. Yeah. They're going to leave something there. They're leaving this up there because this is going to be a kicking point to go to Mars too. This space station they're setting up, it's got docking stations on it for multiple things. It looks like two or three of these docking stations from the looks of it.

1:13:51 And then in the meantime, after sending those two missions out to load this thing up with an actual lunar device, they're going to send a bunch of gear to the moon and land it there where the whole experiments, where the whole visit's gonna take place. So they're gonna send down a rover and a couple of other pieces of gear to the moon. This is another trip, another whole different trip. Boom, there it goes. And then we have the launch of the people. I would think there'd be some people in this space station. Women, women, women, and BIPOC. Birthing people and BIPOC.

1:14:32 So they're gonna be in this, and this thing is this missile that they're gonna use. It's gonna be a little bigger than Saturn V, which is cool in and of itself. It's gonna have the two side burners on it and the solid fuel boosters. And it's gonna have a encapsulated top that is gonna be loaded with, I wouldn't say explosives, but another rocket engine. Another rocket engine. So if the thing... It's like the model rockets where then it blows back and the parachute comes out. So if this thing blows up, the whole thing, they can fly off. Oh, escape hatch. Escape hatch. It's an escape... It's built in escape module built into the top.

1:15:20 So then if this thing goes as planned, this missile's gonna take off and the little missile's gonna... the little... habitat for the... funny-looking habitats for the space... for the moonwalkers... it's gonna fly... It's an exit strategy pod. It's gonna fly into the, and find this space station which has already been sitting there flying around. In a crazy orbit, yeah. And it's gonna hook to it, and then they're gonna get out of that and get into the other vehicle. Talk about points of, this kind of like. Points of failure? Where could it go wrong? Multiple points of failure. This scenario belongs on Apple Plus.

1:16:05 I'm telling you, this is what... I'm watching this thing going, what? This is too complicated. Alright, I'm gonna give... Lock into the into the space station that's up there and then they're gonna get out and get into this other vehicle Which is the one that's gonna go to the moon and it's a two-parter and so it's gonna go land on the moon and then once they get there and then they get to all this other gear that's already sitting there waiting for them so they don't have to carry anything and So they're gonna go and drive around on the space rover and do whatever they do get back into the module but in this case the module breaks in two and the top part of it takes off and leaving the lander behind and then it goes up and then re-docks with the space station where they get into a

1:16:51 I don't know what they do after that, but I guess I either switch back over. I don't think they take that vehicle, the Moon Lander, back to Earth. I think they take, they jump in their old thing, the old Junker, and then that goes back. It's so complicated as you watch this. I'm sure I got some of the details wrong, but I'm watching this shaking my head going, this is gonna take 10 years to just accomplish. May I give you some news from the future? 1963 we change Cape Canaveral to Cape Kennedy 1973 we change it back to Cape Canaveral. Ladies and gentlemen after the Artemis 1 disaster of 2023 the government house now decided to change the name of Cape Canaveral to Cape Cadaver.

1:17:40 Yeah. Please. So, yeah. So, it's a convoluted scheme, but the idea is to get this space station up there floating around and I guess they'll re-equip it with a Mars lander and so the Mars mission is gonna be launched from there or maybe from the moon itself. I don't think it's gonna be from the moon. It's gonna be from this space station. And so they're gonna use that as the as the go-to place now, so okay So just so I understand the reason why we've never been back to the moon is because the Atlas rocket the system that we had Was so powerful Saturn 5 Saturn 5 so amazed balls yet. Somehow we we don't have the technology We don't can and we can't afford it. We lost it. We destroyed it I've heard every version of it chopped it up is this Artemis does it have the same thrust?

1:18:28 More. It has more thrust than a Saturn V. Really? That's what they said. Wow, so does it cost more than the original Saturn V? Well I hope so. And how does this make Americans feel better who can't heat their homes or drive their cars due to the financial situation and the energy cost and we're blowing this shit just in the air. I don't know. Is this supposed to lift our spirits? Oh, yeah, Murica. It's so convoluted. It's not like spiking the football, that's for sure. It's nothing you can just do. I know, it's just like, it's like Murica. Who cares? We want to eat. You got to go through this rigmarole to get to the moon this time with the thing and the spaceship and the different changes from one taxi to another. Oh, yeah, the tractors. Yeah. Anyway.

1:19:25 Did you have a final clip of that? So that's my understanding of it. So it's a little bit, it's elaborate, let's put it that way. And it's got to cost a mint because of all these extra steps. It's not like you're just jumping in a rocket and going to the moon. Oh man, I can't wait to see this video. I want to, I just can't wait. I can't wait to see what they've done this time. And I want to, you know, we had some and I think they have admitted this. We've had some major solar activity recently. Oh yeah, it just screws up and Washington State gets hit hard and it screws up the cell towers. Cell towers, radio transmission, sometimes transformers catch fire. The Russians couldn't do their spacewalk or the space station. You know, they're super malfunctioning. Had to drag them back.

1:20:13 So when they say you know we have to make sure that we can get people to the moon safely I Don't know man. I'm just saying I don't know it's very I'm old enough to to remember being Awoken by my parents at four or five years of age look at this Okay, I want to sleep there on the moon son isn't it great. Yeah, I bought into it. Okay I thought it was fun. But this approach they're taking, which again I think has to do with they really want to send somebody to Mars. Elon Musk, he wants to go. Well the question is, is NASA sending to Mars or is Elon sending? Who's doing the Mars because this is not SpaceX, this is NASA. Yeah, right. So but is NASA gonna send people? Are they in competition with Elon? Well I think if they got the same kind of a

1:21:05 You know, if they release the specifics, the schematics of the locking device that hooks to this space station, anyone can hook onto it, I think, and spend a little time there and then go off someplace else. So technically, Artemis puts the docking station in place and then Elon goes right after it and just becomes a squatter? You know, I think it's probably possible. Why not? With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in Cape Canaveral. Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. Dvorak!

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Newsletter Suppression, Email Tracking, Digital Equipment Corporation

The hosts discuss potential suppression of the No Agenda newsletter, noting inconsistent delivery across Gmail and ProtonMail. Dvorak reminisces about his history writing for Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) magazines in the 1980s and his long-standing frustrations with email networking systems.

newsletter· gmail· protonmail· digital equipment corporation· vax· email tracking

1:21:49 Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships are sea. Boats on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls over there in the troll room. Let's see how many trolls we got here today. It's very, you know, I'm, you know how when you have a different keyboard, you can't quite find the keys? I'm experiencing this right now. Sometimes a little different. All right, hey trolls, let's see how many do we have in there? Oh, uh-oh, what happened there? 1093? It's just like, like trolls died. Well, Sunday should be 21-2200. What happened? Oh, that, no, 20, what, 2450? Did I read it wrong? Okay, hold on a second. Oh, I'm sorry. 2450. That's a good number. That's a great number. Scared me from it. Now, before we move on,

1:22:39 Tell me a little bit about your experience with the newsletter because you sent out to be a normal it was a normal send it did this is one anomaly which I didn't get a bunch of a bunch of kickbacks as the numbers are almost identical and we had lousy response it was just a lousy week that nobody donate I mean a few people donate you you sent a second letter that it looked like there was some well what I saw here I always get a auto replies when I send them newsletter out right I usually get about six of them. I don't reply I don't reply you're not in the office I'm not a weekend. I read on Monday So these auto replies come in the only one came in so I figure out this is no good This must not be hitting anything, but the overall numbers are almost identical to a normal send ha it was but there

1:23:33 I don't know. This is a bit... I don't know. Because I thought, because I have one subscription through Gmail and that didn't, I don't think that showed up for me. So I was wondering if there was something really, I don't know. It was weird, but it's always fun to see everyone immediately like, let's go try and find the newsletter. That's all, it's so incredibly appreciated. So Trolls, glad you're here. Thank you. And turn your auto replies back on. This apparently is our sophisticated way of knowing if we're being suppressed or not. Actually, there's also some graphs I use. In fact, yeah, we should have certain people who, around the world... I already do that. It's already done. But are they aware of your tracking technology? There are a number of people that I've assigned

1:24:23 as it were. Right, well so they failed. Feedback, they have to send back whether they get a primary... So did they fall down on the job? I'm just trying to... No, they were all there but that's not immediate, that comes in... They're not like, I don't call them and say, hey, you got your bail yet? No, they get it when they get it and then they tell, they feedback what Did they get it in the primary box or? Promotions, the Gmail in Canada always goes into promotions. 90% of the time. Gmail in the United States is spotty, yes and no. If you've been getting it consistently, you always get it. And they say, I don't get what you're bitching about. Gmail's been all 100%, I've never missed a newsletter. And then you get ProtonMail, which is spotty. Again, it's another one. Sometimes people go, I've never had a problem.

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

AI Art Generators, No Agenda Artwork, Lichtenstein Style

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the show, noting the increasing use of AI art generators. They discuss a "Lichtenstein-esque" piece created by Nico Saimi and debate whether AI-generated art should be allowed in the show's weekly cover art competition.

ai art· lichtenstein· midjourney· dall-e· podcast artwork· capitalist agenda

1:25:12 And other people say, I didn't get the newsletter at all. So, you know. I also didn't subscribe to it. By the way, it's a funny thing. So I'm writing for the DEC professional back in the 80s. Now DEC is the old mainframe computer? It's a mini computer. A mini computer, sorry, yes. Digital Equipment Corporation. What was the OS for that? It was variations of Unix. And so Believe what would you write? I don't want to get called out like I got called by the historian about me I'm just curious what you would write about for deck magazine a vax was all I could train X X X was a vac No, no, I know I was writing dip. This is the era where they had those they had microcomputers that they brought out Okay, they had the rainbow if you remember that no other ones. No, I wish that's a little before my time. I

1:26:07 Anyway, so the rain, yeah it was interesting because I've run into, in fact I got to meet Marshall Brickman, the co-author of a lot of early Woody Allen movies because he had a deck rainbow. So I went to his apartment in New York and you know... What did he do with it? What did he do with his deck rainbow? He used it to write scripts. It's not at all overkill. It was easier than you... You could edit faster on a computer. Oh yeah, it looks basically like an old... like an IBM, like an early IBM DOS machine. Yeah, it was a good machine. The rainbow. Oh, how cute. So I wrote one column once Yeah, rainbow. It's pretty popular today. I wrote one column once a oh Complaining bitterly about this is a when the internet are put when the email systems or internet based I mean they're all sorry not internet, but Yeah, and if their government their government and I bitched about the other system doesn't work. It's no good. I

1:27:07 And holy mackerel that I get nothing but hate mail. I'll bet. I was complaining back then so I'm still complaining and I see no evidence that things have improved to be honest about it. But okay, I was wrong. I don't see any networking on this thing. On the rainbow. Oh no, there was no networking back in the day. There was no networking when I was a kid? No. You had a floppy and you liked it. You had a floppy and that was big and you put stuff on there and you liked it. Yep. Cool. Anyway, why do you bring that up? To bitch about email. Ah, okay. To show that I have a long history of complaining. Ah, and oh yes. If you didn't know that by now.

1:27:53 You haven't been paying attention. Yeah, but I never call you out on it. So Trolls, thank you very much for being here. You can also join us over at noagendasocial.com. And yeah, I've got to talk to Aaron or see if he can make a link available so we can sign up a couple hundred people. Get something going. Follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com or Adam at noagendasocial.com. And thank you to Capitalist Agenda. for bringing us the artwork for episode 1480. We titled that The Internet of Dogs. It's an interesting piece. You know, it was Joe handing out cash. You particularly like the three-dimensionality of it, kind of the big hand with the cash. By the way, I noticed the bill number, it's a roll of $100 bills, it's AC33000 and the JCB is cute. And Joe has a beer hat on with value for value juice, I guess, whatever that was.

1:28:49 And maybe it was because we had other choices. I liked the gummy blades that Tantaniel did, the windmill with the gummy blades. You went, eh. Interesting was Nico Saimi, is that kind of a new guy on the block who has these almost like cartoon dot, almost Lichtenstein-esque, how about that? Wow, that's good. Is it Lichtenstein S? Yeah, I think you're right. And he did it using AI which is these now these generators can do this art and I guess the question is do we do we want to even risk AI taking over the artist competition?

1:29:34 Well, they did he did had a shot and didn't get anything because the one is where a guy is about to eat a huge cricket Which is just disgusting and the other one was a dude a grasshopper and the one is a dude eating a grasshopper Yeah, that's not cool. I say whatever mission whatever he systems he's using He put in farmer with a hat, probably put that in there, and then he said cricket or grasshopper, smiling, eating, something. I don't know, and then the thing cranks out a piece of work. But it's, you know, it's, I think it's, if it's competitive, it's competitive. I don't care if it's from AI. My son is into this stuff. He's got a bunch of AI programs. Oh, this is a big thing now where you just type in two words.

1:30:22 You know, John as a dog and then it spits out something of you looking like a dog. Or it could spit out a lot of pieces and you pick one. Yeah. So you have to have some judgment involved so it's not just, you know. But you know, we'll see. I'm not going to discourage it. I'd like to see if anything comes through that can actually win. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, that's fair enough. What else do we have? We had a lot of podcast movement, artwork, buttons. A lot of people did buttons with pronouns, which like, you know, I don't need to make fun of the pronouns themselves. People do whatever they want. But the fact that, and a lot of Wokorama.

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Podcast Broker, Buyout Strategies, No Agenda Value

Adam Curry mentions being approached by a "podcast broker" regarding a potential sale of the show. The hosts discuss the mechanics of media buyouts, including non-compete clauses and the transfer of intellectual property like jingles and email lists, while jokingly suggesting they could start a "Blow Agenda" spin-off.

podcast movement· air horn· podcast broker· buyout· contract law· intellectual property

1:31:08 Stuff like that, 100% fire. Fire. Oh man, you liked that one. You think that you are the only person who sent me this? One time for the one time! I got 20 copies people sent this to me. I can't believe you put it in as an ISO. This has to be used very sparingly. I'm not going to allow abuse. I'm not going to allow abuse of this. I have used it in today's show, but I'm never going to use it again. No, you shouldn't. You haven't heard it yet because you just haven't run into it. No, and you shouldn't because, you know, this actually, this air horn comes standard with, I think, almost every podcast device. Is it on yours? Yes.

1:31:54 It comes standard. They give you a whole bunch of standard sounds. Yeah, which way to play it? One time for the one time! Fire! Fire. Fire. Well that's not very creative. You're just pushing a button that was provided to them. Yeah, but everybody uses this. Never heard it before. Well you've never been to Podcast Movement. Yeah, that's for sure. Kind of cool to see the Atlantic No Agenda record label podcast for sale. Curry and DeVore. I have not heard back by the way from the podcast broker. Podcast broker. I can't. What if he says, well you know we think we can sell it for five million dollars.

1:32:43 Went real quiet over on that side. No, I just don't think that's what is, I think it's worth more. They're gonna have to come up with some better numbers than that. Then we just sell it and walk away? Do we give all the donors a little piece of the action? No, they'd have to have us on a contract so we make some pretty decent money while sharing the forward. No, no, no, no, she says, because it's very clear. You give everything the websites your jingle. Yeah, we can do that all the and then you just give it to somebody else the email list You gotta do that. You gotta get hey, here's the hard drive with 80,000 clips we have enjoy Here's how you do it. Hey, here's the b-link Here's the Roadcaster Pro Yeah, you'd have to give that up

1:33:29 No, man, I don't think people should be too concerned. No, but by the way, that is not the way you do buyouts and you're not supposed to know. I know they're doing it wrong. No, the way you do it, it's for people out there that don't know. And probably everybody knows is you buy the company out, you fold them in and then you keep the hosts for a limited period of time so they just don't go out and recreate their old. company because that's what happens. Okay we take no agenda, okay we've got the blow agenda comes out the next week and the blow agenda shows now. Sorry. It's got all the same guys in the same everything we just maybe

1:34:09 new clips. Blow agenda. Really? We can probably get Yoagenda. Hey we could we could sell Noagenda and get the Yoagenda guys to host it. Now that's a package. We can package them with it with the whole deal. It's gonna be great. Yeah they don't want to do it anymore. Blow agenda. Alright so thank you very much to, this was two in a row actually for for Capitalist Agenda. Will he make the hat trick? Well, you can find out if you're listening live if you're very rare nowadays is for the hat trick if you're in a troll room dot IO you can go to no agenda art generator and just Refresh and see what happens if you don't have one get a modern podcast app find it at new podcast apps calm all of the artwork comes by there You've got live notifications when the show goes live

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Value for Value, Executive Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conduct the "Value for Value" segment, thanking donors and knighted producers. Notable contributions include a $1,000 donation from Eric Curtis of Detroit and a $365 donation from Sir Henry of Flowerfield. They read notes from producers across the globe, including those from Florida, Missouri, and Canada, while granting "karma" and "de-douching" requests.

value for value· donation· knighthood· detroit· austin· executive producer

1:34:59 And there's a cool one to try out on the, it's a web app, so it works equally well on your phone as well as the desktop, and that's CurioCaster, give that one a shot. It also has all the live stuff and transcripts and all the cool 2.0 stuff all the kids are talking about, or not. And now, let us thank some of our executive and associate executive producers in our Value for Value system, which is not just a way to fund the show, it's a content programming format. Now of course it works best when we have the actual note from our top donor. I do have it. You have Eric Curtis who comes in with $1,000 from Detroit, Michigan and we are happy to... Is he a knight? Instant knight? Is that what's going on here? Yeah, he is. And you have to get your pen out because he's got information. New shit has come to light. Okay, great. I got my pen out. ITM. It came in this email.

1:35:57 He said I'm gonna mention this because I like to complain as you know mm-hmm he sent a note in but it says knighthood note Never using the word donation. No line making it difficult to find He was excited. He was excited. He's being a knight and he wasn't paying attention small oversight. Yeah, I TM What do I need to do here? I have passed a thousand dollars in donation. In donations I'm attaching pictures of email. I was told to do this in the troll... In the troll room? In the troll room, told him to take pictures of every donation or whatever. No! No! So he sent a bunch of useless images in. He says, I was told to do this in the troll room but they are trolls.

1:36:47 You nasty ass trolls! I can't... the trolls trolled one of their own! What are the chances? I would like to be knighted Sir Goat of the Hill. Sir Goat of the Hill. Righty. And claim Deep East Texas. Okay. He don't really get an area. You don't get to claim yet. He doesn't get to claim yet, does he? But he can hope, hope to get it someday. Sir... I will be... Hold on, hold on. What was it again? Sir what? Sir Goat of the Hill. Of the Hill. Okay. Got it. How stupid is this? But in order to use the escape key on this keyboard I have to have to hit function E. What? Yes, function E and then the escape key.

1:37:33 No. Yes. Well, that's dumb. Yes. What's the brand? What's the brand? It's a... Dude, it's one of these foldable Bluetooth keyboards from Amazon for eight bucks. It's a piece of shit. It's a piece of crap. Yeah, exactly. But you don't get stuff like that. But only the best for the best podcast in the universe. Now he's got a birthday. Ah, there we go. Okay. I'm ready. You gotta put him on the list. That'll be 49 on the 13th. Of September? I guess. He doesn't say, he just says the 13th. Okay. Yeah, it has to be because he says, I will be a knight for my birthday. I'd like some Gosling's Black Seal Rum at the round table. How old will he be on the 13th? 49. Okay. Oh man. Okay. What does he want for the round table? I mean, I got my pan, but I just can't go that fast. Yes. For the round table once again? Gosling's Black Seal Rum. Okay.

1:38:35 And he's got a jingle. And he asks, do I get a jingle? If I get a jingle, he wants manning burning buttholes. Ah, but that one's been outlawed. I don't remember it. Oh yeah, yeah it has been. Well we have an ISO. Otherwise you're going to have a flame coming out of your butthole, preacher! You won't be able to sit down! That's the one. Anything else? Yep. Go Karma. Okay, there we go. Thank you very much, man. Congratulations. You've got Karma. We will see you at the round table. Eric Curtis.

1:39:16 You're not? No. Oh, I'll do this one. Sir Henry of Flowerfield. This was a very nice note that he sent him because he sent in a physical note and I saw this. It's a very good note. $365 from Austin, Texas. Thank you very much. And he has a typewritten note to the NO Agenda show and it's signed Sir Henry of Flowerfield and right in the middle of this big page it says, this note intentionally left blank. Double Karma. Is that what it qualifies as? Double Karma? Even though he... I think so. Okay. Alright. Double Karma it is. Here you go. You've got... Karma.

1:40:02 So one of the producers sends me a note saying, you're an idiot. No, that's nice. He says, don't you get the joke that Sir Animas did with his last short note? No. That one 30-second note is a short note. Okay. The big giant musical note in the middle of the page. Oh, it's a short note. No, we don't get that because we're Podcasters damn it. We're not musicians Yeah, you idiot you stupid idiot. Oh wow rough, okay? Yeah, but yeah, yeah, it was funny and Okay, Baron a surfer in Orlando Orlando, Florida comes in with 340 bucks

1:40:54 He sent a note, a handwritten note, you can tell. ITM, John and Adam, you guys are great comedians. Thank you for your comedy. Bingo request. One, Obama, you might die. Two, a rubilizer. Three, the drone, I guess the drone taking off. Yep, got it. And then two to the head. Plus, karma for John and Adam. Love is lit and all that shit. Baronet surfer Orlando. You might die. India, hang out, Mike. Standby. 33, 33, 33. Robilizer out. Okay. There's your little sequence. Steven Govero.

1:41:50 is from Missouri, Oxvasi? It sounds like something I plug into my stereo system. Hey, give me that Oxvasi cord over there. 333.33, one of our favorite numbers for executive producers, and you will get that credit today, Steven. In honor of turning the magic 33, this eternally jobless millennial who finally has a job would like some exit strategy karma and also some PC building karma. Is he going to build his own PC? That's interesting doable. Yeah, it's very doable. It's been a month, and I just need a graphics card that works FFS Okay, we'll give you some special millennial karma then no problem. You've got Yeah, it was hard to hold on to all this time really Bruno Bodry

1:42:49 in Maskuchee, Quebec, Canada. I don't know how you pronounce it. Quebec. No, Maskuchee. Duh. Maskuchee, Maskuchee. Maskuchee. It can't be that, it's too Italian. It's gotta be something Frenchy. Maskuchee. Maskuchee. It probably is Maskuchee. Maskuchee. 333.33 WTC7, 33 is the magic number, 6969 dude, NR2D2Karma. Thanks to all the producers. I am Canadian. I'm Canadian and I moved to Florida five months to the day ago to escape the communist dictatorship.

1:43:27 All this thanks to my smoking hot wife Lucia. Eight years and we've never had a fight, eh? Bruno. WTC 7 won't go away! Three, that's the magic number. Three, it's the magic number. Three. 69! 69, dudes! You've got Karma Onward to Dame Sarah. Sarah Gonzalez from Houston, Texas. Talo Texans, 333.33. This donation is in honor of the upcoming 44th birthday of the smoke and love of my life, Rolando Gonzalez, one of our best end of show mixers. Very consistent. Lovely family. I've met them all. He is the best husband and father to our two human resources who are very cute, Maya and Alice, that I could ever imagine. He has put up with the heat and the humidity of the Bayou City. That's Houston.

1:44:30 And with me, for almost 20 years now, and we never... Oh. And we can tell you, Texas has definitely always been this hot and flooded. His hitting me in the mouth several years ago has changed our lives significantly for the better. So thank you to the two of you for all you do to keep us sane and awaken a woke world. Also, shout out to everyone who came to the Houston meetup this weekend, which was a blast. Thanks to Sir Quigley, the cantankerous, for organizing. And I hope to find, I hope to attend many more. Happy to say that there was not a bug burger in sight. Thank you for your courage, Dame Sarah. Thank you, Dame Sarah. And of course, your lovely husband, Rolando, is on the list.

1:45:12 Sorry, I was just getting an email for one of the notes that came in coming up You're at Avery Allen. Okay, where are we? Hello, gentlemen, writes Miss Avery Allen in Trenton, New Jersey, 333.00. Hello, gentlemen, thanks for your valuable services. I've been a douchebag for a while and for that I apologize. Looking forward to becoming a knight soon. Please give me a de-douche. You've been de-douched.

1:45:49 Then we have Hierko Groenewegen from Utrecht. I do have his note. And I did forward it, but I guess it got lost somewhere. Hierko says, Hi guys! With 28th of August marking my 52nd trip around the sun on a show day, it's a great time to donate. A nice dollop of karma will do for jingles. Also an early birthday shout out to my fellow Virgo Adam. Oh, thank you. Coming up next week. May many donations brighten your path. Cheers. Sir Haco, Knight of the Papal Fiefdom of Utrecht. You've got some karma there. You've got karma. When's your birthday? What day? September 3rd. September 3rd? Yeah. Is that a show day by any chance? I don't know if it's a show day. I'm looking right now. Is it a show day? I don't know. It's not... I'm not really like super excited because I'm turning 58. It's Saturday. I'm turning 58. So what? Well, it's easy for you to say.

1:46:47 It is. It's very easy for me to say. My daughter just turned 32. You can't even say that. 32 is the magic number. But you don't have any kids 32. Eric doesn't count in this case. Makes you feel old, man. Hey! Let's go on with Surrounded by Idiots! What are you doing? I'm sorry. Forsyth, Missouri, $2.11.12. $2.11.12. Dicks and ducks palindrome for you. Torn my beautiful wife's damehood. We are almost there. Please credit this to Temmie Collins. She's the, okay, it's a switcheroo. Let's make it, let's make that a switcheroo. She's the best wife a guy could want. She's my keeper. Real quick, I'm disappointed the dicks and ducks donation hasn't taken off. It's dicks and ducks. Dicks in ducks. Hello, dicks in ducks. Fuck a duck, get it? That's clever.

1:47:49 Anyway, I could never match the value for value I received from the show, but I'm damn sure trying. I was wondering if you guys think I could change my night name before attending a meetup. Would it be rude introducing myself as surrounded by idiots? Or could I just add present company excluded? Would that be okay? I love the boots on the ground report from Adam at the podcast, whatever it was in Dallas. It was very entertaining. You guys add more value to my life than I'm adding to yours, I promise. But keep up the good work. It's much appreciated. Build a better man trap and the rats will beat a path to your door. Love a slit and all that shit.

1:48:37 Love you mean it for jingles. I want a noodle gun and a yak karma. I surrender. Crazy. You thought. Karma. Tammy will be credited. Then we have three in a row of which I have no email. If you have one, let me know. How do you get three? I see Shawn Stedman. Oh, I'm sorry, two in a row. Shawn Stedman from Lake Placid, Florida. Any email from Shawn? No, but he gave $202.02, so I'm sure there's some note. So I guess that's a double karma then, since we don't have a note. That's how it works. You've got karma.

1:49:32 And the same can be said for Kenneth Martin, also Associate Executive Producer with $200 from Thornton, Colorado and also No Note. You've got karma. And that actually does it. Easy does it. Very easy does it. Thank you to these Executive and Associate Executive Producers of the No Agenda Show, episode 1481. In case you didn't know it, these credits are real. They're recognized by industry. Proof? Go to imdb.com. Go ahead, take a look and just search for no agenda and you'll see many Hollywood bigwigs and insiders who share these credits with you. So if anyone ever questioned this, excuse me, have you seen these people who have the same credit? I worked on that project with them.

1:50:21 How would you say that? I worked on that project, I worked on that production. Can you say production? Financed. No, no. I financed. I financed that, okay? If you want to sound cool, you say financed instead of financed. Regardless, you can also just tout it everywhere, put it in your LinkedIn profile, put it in your Twitter profile, and of course if you have one, in your No Agenda social profile. Thank you so much for supporting the No Agenda Show, we appreciate it. I would look forward to thanking the rest of our producers in the second half. As always, time, talent, treasure is appreciated for the best podcast in the universe. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Education Activism, Paulo Freire, Socialist Pedagogy

The hosts play clips of teachers and academics, including Paul Giroux, discussing the "political act" of teaching. They trace the roots of modern social justice pedagogy to Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire and criticize the push for "direct action" and socialist democracy within the American education system.

paul giroux· paulo freire· social justice· anti-racism· socialism· school boards

1:51:10 Shut up, sleep! I want to get these teachers clips out of the way. Oh, the everlasting John can't believe people are retarded segments. Okay, let's do it. I love it. I love it. Okay. So I have, first of all, we have a couple of, this is a man on the street report with some teachers, new teachers. It's not as bad as the UCLA students, but it's pretty bad. And it's short clip. These are two

1:51:48 teachers that have been confronted by a man on the street reporter. So I was a seventh grade civics teacher, government teacher, and she is an elementary school teacher. What year did we get our independence? 17 something. I actually don't teach what's in our curriculum. I'm teaching children social studies that's not in our curriculum, teaching them things about how to be an anti-racist. I taught them about protesting. I taught them about Black Lives Matter. Wow, wait a minute. So was it there was man on the street from what just a tick tock video or is this a TikTok I believe But you know this woman she doesn't care when the country is formed. She's gonna teach him about protesting Okay, that's gonna be a great teacher to have kids sounds like a winner and here's another one. This is a just a little snippet of a teacher who is discussing how important it is to be like that last teacher and

1:52:38 And she doesn't look anything like the typical teachers I moan and groan about, the ones that are freaky looking, that are non-binary. This is just a very normal looking kind of a stern Berkeley type girl. And this is what's coming out of teachers colleges as far as I can tell. I see teaching as a very political act. When we are engaging with our students whether it's on social justice issues or multicultural issues or culturally relevant teaching I see that as foundational to all learning. Immediately report to the school board immediately have her removed. This is not how you're supposed to be teaching. Social justice is the foundation of all teaching. Oh, you know two plus two is social justice. Two plus two is vote Democrat.

1:53:26 Democrat. Now back to a longer clip which is more interesting this is Paul Giroux. Why do I know this man? Yeah you should know this. This is the guy that's created these teachers. Oh right, right, right, right. He's foundational in leftist politics. He's the guy who brought in the thinking of the Brazilian Marxist Who is obscure and I could don't remember his name off the top of my head But he's an obscure Brazilian Marxist has been brought into the fore by this Giroux guy And he's been going from school to school, and he's got a great pitch. It's the promote socialism aka communism as best he can and this is a one of his little spiels, but

1:54:11 I have to say, this guy is, he has a voice that is so well known to me because he sounds exactly like a typical, probably West LA atheist Jew that would be teaching at Cal. He's just, they all sound like this guy and they're all communists and here he goes. Teachers, particularly educators, we have seen in the last two years educators mobilizing and sometimes against their own conservative unions, which I think is fabulous, against gun violence, against a whole range of issues being dehumanized, being de-skilled, being attacked. Librarians are starting to mobilize. They have to create a national movement first of all.

1:54:55 basically is on the side of what I call direct justice. And what I mean by direct justice is direct action. We have got to shut these institutions down. I don't mean we need to go to vote. That's fine. We need to take over school boards, you do everything you can to make these school boards democratic. That's okay. We need a policy of direct action. And this is nonviolent. I'm not calling for violence. I'm calling for direct action, occupy banks, occupy schools, occupy the institutions that stop everyday life. And use that pedagogically to educate people and to make clear that people are oppressed, being exploited, and the world is coming to an end. I'm sorry. The planet is in danger. This is not an abstract issue anymore. If we have 10 years to be able to endure this with our food wars, water wars, the entire militarization of the planet, we'll be lucky. So time is running out. Lastly, it seems to me these social movements have got to come together.

1:55:47 And they've got to come together under the fear of fascism and the promise of a socialist democracy. We've got to stop running away from this word socialism. This is insane. We want socialism. We don't want anybody to be poor. We don't believe that education should not be free. We don't believe that equality doesn't matter. We don't believe that rich people should fight, people should organize and have more wealth than half the planet. Sorry. No, why should we be apologetic? Capitalism is a death march. Oh, that's kind of interesting because one of the some was it someone who won in New York one of AOC's buddies and she had a like a victory a little victory party in a in a club and and this lady's like socialism wins So, you know Trump fascist socialism wins is exactly what he said. I

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Los Angeles Homelessness, Hotel Vacancy Mandate

A proposed ballot measure in Los Angeles would force hotels to report vacancies daily and accept homeless individuals into vacant rooms. The hosts characterize this as a socialist policy that mirrors similar efforts in the Netherlands involving asylum seekers.

los angeles· homelessness· hotel union· vacancy· socialism· housing policy

1:56:38 Yeah, but this is the thinking as fast-talking and the opposite of Ben Shapiro and there's a doppelganger and Yeah, socialism socialism. It's just the way to go. Well, let's check in on socialism for a moment Shall we let's see how that's going in Los Angeles according to CNN in Los Angeles County more than 60,000 people are homeless on the average night and More than 20,000 hotel rooms lie empty on the average night. See where this might be going? Yeah, it's just it's insane. It isn't gonna solve the problem. We think this is one part of the solution. By no means do we think this solves the homelessness crisis. But do hotels have a role to play? Of course they do.

1:57:28 So the union he leads, which reps hotel workers, gathered enough signatures and Angelinos will vote on a bill that would force every hotel in town to report vacancies at 2 p.m. every day then welcome homeless people into those vacant rooms. It's great socialism wins and wins. Can you imagine? I mean this was already happened during the if you remember during COVID during the lockdown. Right there in Union Square hotels had home We're being now the way there was homeless and front front first-line responders and they were combination of the two This is this is crazy you know in the Netherlands are doing this now too with the with the Asylum seekers as they call them again hotels and yeah now what they've come up with is

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

San Francisco Crime, Tool Theft, Law Enforcement Inaction

Local news reports on the epidemic of tool theft targeting contractors in San Francisco and Oakland. One contractor tracked his stolen equipment to a seller on OfferUp, but police refused to intervene without a serial number match. The hosts discuss the impact of "defunding the police" on public safety and property crime.

san francisco· theft· contractors· fencing· offerup· defund the police

1:58:30 We cannot deny undocumented children schooling. And you know what they're calling them in Holland? These Dutch children who are, I'm sorry, these asylum seeker children who want to attend Dutch school. You know what they're calling them? Dreamers. Wow! Literally the English word. Dreamers. It's a global program. We thought it was just us. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Dreamers. Well, while we're talking about socialism, then let's go with some stealing clips. Oh, yeah. We love stealing. This is a local report. Just stealing in San Francisco. From car break-ins to shoplifting, much has been said about property crime in San Francisco. And for one set of victims, theft doesn't just come with a cost. It's making it hard for the victims to work.

1:59:24 KPIX 5's Wilson Walker introduces us to one contractor whose latest job is tracking down his stolen tools. Remodel, total interior addition, front and back. From full remodels in the Oakland Hills. So this is all a new addition on the back here. To foundation replacements in San Francisco. One section at a time so the house doesn't fall down. Dan McCann is a city native who built his contracting business from scratch, now employing teams of workers on various sites. And for all of the complexities that come with running jobs around the Bay,

2:00:00 His work in San Francisco has presented one particular challenge. We usually bring the tools home. The one day we left everything here, maybe somebody was staking us out and broke the lock off. let themselves in, three jackhammers, concrete saw, a bunch of smaller items, came out to about $14,000 worth of equipment. No ladders on it, no pipe racks. Plumber Tony Campos is another victim even though he tries to keep his van as inconspicuous as possible. Had a couple jobs like Dan's where we've had all our equipment, all our plumbing gear, all our tools stolen. I've had a

2:00:42 I had one of my cars broken into in my garage, everything taken from that. This is the third time I've been hit pretty big. And the third time convinced Dan to take on another job, tracking down his stolen property. And he says it wasn't that hard to find a resale website and a seller who may not be the thief but has thousands of items for sale. And of course, this brings the question to the four. Where's the police? Well, this is interesting that you bring this up. I had a conversation with Tina yesterday. She was in Austin and she parked, it was a nail salon, so it's one of these kind of neighborhoods in Austin and you can't park there unless you have a resident parking sticker, which is intended because the residents can't find any parking because all the tourists and the Californians, they come in and they park there. So, and when we were in Austin, you just, you wouldn't park there if you didn't have a resident sticker.

2:01:42 So she was very worried, she's like, oh man this is residence only. But then she thought to herself, what am I kidding? They completely defunded the Austin police, no one's gonna tow my car. To which I said, that's how it starts before you know it, you're gonna be stealing Gucci bags. Smashing grab by the keeper. But seriously, on every scale it works. She had a lawless, she's lawless. The keeper is lawless. And that's what, exactly, when there's no cops because they've all been defunded. They don't want to be around anything. They don't want to do anything. And we understand why. So this is the result. I understand their mentality. It's the cop thinking to himself, why should I do all this work? Nobody else is doing anything. Not going to, and my department will back me up if anything happens. Yeah, they're going to end up, yeah, no. The actual citizens start to attack me.

2:02:39 Yeah, it's no good. No, it's bad. Okay, well let's go to part two of the stealing where again we find the lack of police effort being at the front of this of the line here go yeah, so this is the guy who tried to sell me my stuff back you can see here to 2,600 items sold on offer up. I met up with him. Zeroing in on a saw he recognized, he set up a parking lot meeting in which he confronted the seller. They demanded proof of a serial number, which Dan produced the following day. Gave him the serial number the next day. He told me I made a fake receipt and he wouldn't meet up with me. Told me to call the cops and have them come deal with it.

2:03:18 Cops want me to find him again before they'll do anything about it. So that was kind of frustrating. Police say they cannot comment as they now have several ongoing investigations into the fencing of stolen property. But they do encourage everyone to record serial numbers and put distinct markings on your tools. This is a common and costly problem. And not only in money and what those tools cost us, but in time. Missing a day of work or missing a couple days of work because we have no tools. Big problem for most of my workers. Not one to quit on a job, Dan now has a private investigator working to build a case that he hopes to pass on to police.

2:04:04 It is a mission born out of frustration. These burglaries are devastating contractors like myself. These criminals have made a business off of stealing the livelihood of honest people. Hopefully, we can start catching these guys. Yeah, move out of California. Move out. Well San Francisco and specifically LA I think are the two. Well this is not happening. You know that San Francisco has a new program to stop people from leaving San Francisco. Well I have a clip. I have a clip too. Is it the same clip? No unless you got it from KPIX local station. I got it from a local station. Here?

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Anti-Texas Billboards, San Francisco, Uvalde Tragedy

Mysterious billboards appear in San Francisco and Los Angeles featuring the message "Don't move to Texas" and referencing the Uvalde school shooting. The hosts discuss the political tension between California and Texas and the use of tragedy to influence migration patterns.

texas· california· uvalde· billboards· gun control· soma

2:04:53 Yeah, I was out there just yesterday. Here's my clip, tell me if this is the one you have. I have a two-parter go. The message is intended to be dark. The Texas miracle died in Uvalde. The billboard showing a man in a hoodie also comes with a warning to anyone who stops to look. Don't move to Texas. I get to look at it often. I don't think it's in particularly good taste. The billboard is meant to highlight the lax gun laws in Texas following one of the deadliest school shootings in Uvalde on May 24th where 19 students and two teachers were killed. You know, I didn't realize this was true.

2:05:35 two separate tracks and it's kind of annoying. But there's a big... Yeah, I got it. I just played mine. Oh, you have a better one? Okay. What is it? A lot better. This is a two-parter. California-Texas dispute. Oh, yeah. I never should have played mine. Sorry. Meanwhile, this billboard in San Francisco's Summit neighborhood is turning heads. Warns people not to move to Texas after that tragedy. There's also a billboard like it in LA and we sent Reed Cowan to look into who's behind that message. Hold those shock. I mean, I'm just walking down the street and I was like, well, I've got to take a picture My family has to see this Sophia Roan is a Texas teacher just met here in May and your newest California resident out for a Soma summer walk I stopped and took a picture because it was Texas. I'm from Austin. No more the cops. Excuse me

2:06:23 This person not from Texas, this person from Austin is different. I took a picture because it was Texas. I'm from Austin. The billboard that caught her eye tells Californians to not move to the Lone Star State. So far, it's a mystery who paid for the billboard or why it's up. But the message looms large on a day when the Uvalde School shooting massacre makes national news once again. You know, you have to be strong in your messaging. I mean, this is so important. I mean, these are kids. These are elementary school kids. Good afternoon, sir. Jamal Abraham works at the lube oil and filter just across from the billboard. And his customers are asking... Who did it?

2:07:00 How long has this been up? And I'm curious to know as well. The Texas miracle died in Uvalde. And it says don't move to Texas. Don't move to Texas. That's a pretty bold statement, you know? Don't move to Texas. Okay, so that's very mysterious. No, we don't know who did it. Yeah, they actually tried to find out. Let's go to part two. KPIX5 reached out to the sign company whose name is associated with the billboard to see who paid for it and why. No response. So absent an explanation, those who walk below the message are left to wonder about the sign and the solutions to gun violence. It's guns. Guns are a major problem in Texas.

2:07:40 Yeah, that's where the blame is. Oh yeah, they're not a problem in California, only in Texas. Not a problem in New York, only in Texas. I declare war on California now. Okay. Hereby done. I declare war. Well, here's the stuff you should be bitching about. California car laws, clip one. California has long had stricter standards than the federal government on emissions. New regulations passed Thursday are now the tightest in the world. As KPX5's Andre Anacano found out though, the ambitious plan would leave the state with a multi-billion dollar budget pothole to fill.

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

California EV Mandate, Mileage Tax, Transportation Funding

California passes new regulations requiring all new cars sold in the state to be zero-emission by 2035. The hosts discuss the "budget pothole" this creates due to lost gas tax revenue and the proposed implementation of a mileage-based tax to fund road maintenance.

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2:07:00 How long has this been up? And I'm curious to know as well. The Texas miracle died in Uvalde. And it says don't move to Texas. Don't move to Texas. That's a pretty bold statement, you know? Don't move to Texas. Okay, so that's very mysterious. No, we don't know who did it. Yeah, they actually tried to find out. Let's go to part two. KPIX5 reached out to the sign company whose name is associated with the billboard to see who paid for it and why. No response. So absent an explanation, those who walk below the message are left to wonder about the sign and the solutions to gun violence. It's guns. Guns are a major problem in Texas.

2:07:40 Yeah, that's where the blame is. Oh yeah, they're not a problem in California, only in Texas. Not a problem in New York, only in Texas. I declare war on California now. Okay. Hereby done. I declare war. Well, here's the stuff you should be bitching about. California car laws, clip one. California has long had stricter standards than the federal government on emissions. New regulations passed Thursday are now the tightest in the world. As KPX5's Andre Anacano found out though, the ambitious plan would leave the state with a multi-billion dollar budget pothole to fill.

2:08:23 We are going to structurally defund our transportation system. Michael Quigley is the executive director of the Fix Our Roads Coalition. He feels a hard deadline of 2035 to go electric will be a tough one to meet. We support the transition to the green future. We believe that climate change is real and it needs to be addressed. However, we can't do it in ways that totally fundamentally disrupt our society. The Fix Our Roads Coalition is asking the governor and California Air Resources Board to identify alternate sources of revenue, but nothing has been announced yet. Andrew Campbell, the executive director of the Energy Institute at UC Berkeley says there is

2:09:04 talk about implementing some sort of mileage tax. There are big challenges. The idea of a mileage-based tax would be very difficult to implement. Oh yeah, this is always the big one. I stopped it there because he's full of shit, this guy. Oh, surprise. As you know, and I've discussed this before, that you have to take your car in yearly to a smog joint to get some... to have a check mark done on the car. And at that time they can look at the computer and eventually give you a part, I think speeding tickets and other things, they haven't implemented that. Right, because they check the OBS port and they suck out the data and give it to law enforcement.

2:09:50 They can easily do that, but they also have to get your odometer reading. And so they know how exactly, which is illegal to back your odometer up in the state and it's not that easy. And the new odometers. You just take the reading and send it to the state and you get billed at the end of the year along with your state income tax for the mileage you went. So that's nonsense that you can't do this. It's convenient, isn't it? They take care of it for you. They already have the spy system set up, ready to go. Maybe what he means is it's not very popular. He didn't say that. No, but maybe that's what he means by it's difficult to do. He's from Cal Berkeley. It seems unlikely that he'd think that way. He would think it's popular. I mean, you know, you almost got hit by a bicycle just the other day. Now this would not count for electric vehicles?

2:10:42 I think it would have to and I think that's what they're gonna have to do because they're gonna lose if they go all electric like they claim, they lose a ton of money at the gas pump. So no electric, this may actually be the lead in to nick the electric vehicles for their mileage. Ooh, get it done before everyone switches. Good, smart idea. So let's play the rest of this clip. The government knows how much gasoline the gas stations are selling and can put a tax on that. The government doesn't know how many miles drivers are driving. While the support is there for electric cars, the governor's proposal is one that may see some tweaks. Newsom has already switched gears to allow some plug-in hybrid cars. Some worry if there isn't flexibility, the ban may have unintended consequences.

2:11:30 But does the government want to spend more on roads or spend more on some type of social service? So there's going to be some tough decisions that will need to be made across those priorities. Are we just going to replace oil and gas extraction for strip mining for lithium and cobalt? Yeah. It seems like this hasn't been fully thought through. And a lot of this is about grant standing for the media. A lot of this is about what? What do you say at the end? A lot of this is just grandstanding for the media. Yeah, no kidding. Meanwhile, they're taking it very seriously, all this stuff. And so we have this. This is my last clip in the California election.

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

UK Energy Crisis, Price Cap, Russian Gas Flaring

The UK energy regulator Ofgem announces a massive increase in the energy price cap, leading to fears that 70% of British pubs could close. Meanwhile, reports indicate that Russia is flaring off excess natural gas that it is no longer shipping to Europe.

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2:12:56 Yeah, slow boil. Now you look at France, where the price of electricity has now reached 1,075 euros per megawatt hour. Two years ago that was 45 euros per megawatt hour. Doomsday scenario, says the British Post. I'll just say press. 70% of British pubs may not survive winter as power costs skyrocket. Oh no! It's skyrocketing, is it? Let's listen to this. Hello, very good morning to you and we start with that breaking news as the energy regulator Ofgem announces the new price cap for fuel bills in England, Wales and Scotland. Now mind you they had

2:13:44 Raise the cap for businesses, which is what they now say will put 70% of the pubs out of business. This is for people, for people who are renting or homeowners, you know, just individuals. You got gas, you got electricity, here's what you're probably going to wind up paying. So, from October, the energy price cap will increase to £3,549. And that's a huge rise from the current £1,971 per year. That's been in force since April. Yeah, that's exactly right, Anna. It's a hugely important morning, very significant and I think very frightening. for a lot of people up and down this country who have been knowing that this price cap is coming, this price cap rise has been coming, knowing that autumn is on its way and feeling very worried indeed about how they're going to pay their bills through the coming winter. So, we know now just how much that cap is going to go up by £3,549 a year will be the typical price of an average person's bill. That is the cap that Ofgem say the maximum that they can charge to

2:14:46 So that's very expensive for people. That's quite the increase, you know, several hundred pounds per month. Daily Express big front page headlines. Boris says we must endure fuel bill pain to defeat Putin. Front page. Got to do it, people. How long is this going to last? Meanwhile, As one of our producers predicted, do you remember what they predicted about Russian gas when they stopped shipping it to the EU? Our producer said Putin will run out of storage space and he'll start flaring the gas. And that's exactly what they're doing. They have so much gas that they're not shipping now, they're flaring it. So just lighting it on fire.

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Ukraine Military Aid, NASAMS, Long-Term Conflict

President Biden announces a $3 billion military aid package for Ukraine, the largest to date, focused on long-term defense. The package includes NASAMS anti-aircraft systems. The hosts analyze NPR's reporting on the conflict and compare the situation to the Soviet-Afghan War.

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2:15:39 So part two of the prediction was... If you want to keep up your production, you have to do that. Part two, yes, because otherwise you have to shut down and it's very, you know, it's expensive and some may not come back online with the same capacity. So part two of this will be that Russia is going to mine Bitcoin. That's my prediction. Okay, well, that's a good prediction for you. I have some Ukraine news. You don't have to be like... You could just say... Oh, that's interesting. What am I supposed to say? Just say it in a different tone of voice, please. Ooh, that's a great idea! Thank you. My Mickey Mouse voice. How about Ukraine BS update?

2:16:20 Sounds like something we need to be on top of mark six months of the war in Ukraine President Biden announced the largest single military aid package for Ukraine yet three billion dollars Or look at how this could shape the conflict in the days ahead. We're joined by NPR national security Correspondent Greg Myrie. I do want to remind you that we had this story on the last episode Greg hi Don so what is the US ran yesterday? Oh This one did, yeah. ...to achieve with this very large aid package. Well, it's significant for a number of reasons. The first is just the size. This war is consuming resources at a ferocious pace, and so this is $3 billion, mostly in weapons. The largest tranche previously was about a billion dollars. And while the U.S. has been rolling out this assistance every few weeks, the aim has really been Ukraine's immediate war needs.

2:17:18 short-range missiles to stop Russian tanks or longer-range artillery to counter Russia's superior firepower. But in this package, the Pentagon really took a step back and said, what does Ukraine need to sustain itself on the battlefield in the months or even years ahead? Here's Colin Call, a Pentagon official explaining the thinking. Vladimir Putin seems to believe that Russia can win the long game, outlasting the Ukrainians in their will to fight and the international community's will to continue to support Ukraine. This US AI package is a tangible demonstration that this is yet another Russian miscalculation. Okay, I understand this package

2:17:59 contains a wide range of weapons, but did anything stand out to you in particular? Yeah, there was one. It's an anti-aircraft system called NASAMS, and it's intended to shoot down Russian warplanes that enter Ukrainian skies. Now, remember early in the war, Ukraine pleaded with NATO to create a no-fly zone, and NATO refused. Well, Ukraine has surprised everyone by making the most of its very limited air force. Ukraine has shot down so many Russian planes that the Russians have essentially stopped flying in Ukrainian airspace. Have you heard that?

2:18:36 The last bit? That's the real purpose of the clip. Yeah, the purpose of the clip. You've heard that these great Ukrainian pilots are so damn good. I remember when this thing started, they had all the planes grounded and there weren't any Ukrainian planes getting in the air to begin with. But now we hear, according to NPR, that these Ukrainians have been shooting down so many Russian planes. That's another thing. I've always heard that the Russian planes never came into Ukraine. They were shooting their Long they had these you know cruise missiles they'd shoot off of the jets and then they go in you know a couple hundred miles and blow something up. This when did this happen? Well, I'm going to play the jingle associated with your title of that clip. Bullshit!

2:19:22 It's also I was very like what are they making stuff up now? Well, I'd like to know something and what we're worth I'd like to know where does the three billion dollars come from is this an act of Congress is there money that the president has that you can just give that away there's So far I found zero analysis of where this coming comes from just Ukraine. Oh, okay You're not gonna get any from me either, because I have no idea where it's coming from. I will say this, that if these Ukrainians are so good at shooting down Russian jets, what do you need this last milita- this system that they're bringing in for? What is that necessary? Makes no sense. We know the reason why.

2:20:00 Yeah, I know we can bring it up again if you want. Well, tell me why then surplus crap to get rid of these guys so we can re fund all of these other big Military industrial complex companies that have all this stuff in storage is never being no. No, it's it's not in well It may be in storage But every single base or US base around the world has been packing up their current gear to send to Ukraine Yeah, so it's I don't know, are we effectively now weaponless until this 3 billion has produced new gear for us? Doubtful, but little bit.

2:20:43 Now the US is providing this very advanced system. It's actually the same one that's used to defend the White House and other key government buildings in Washington. The Ukrainians will need training on this, but it reflects this longer-term planning to strengthen Ukraine's military. But can these new weapons actually change the trajectory of the war? You know, Don, it's impossible to say. It's been a very unpredictable war so far. But for the past two months, since the end of June, the front lines really haven't budged much at all. And that said, there are a couple of things worth noting. Ukraine is now effectively using an advanced artillery system that fires rockets very precisely for up to 50 miles.

2:21:27 So Ukraine is striking far behind Russian lines, they're hitting bridges and ammunition depots and supply lines, things they just couldn't do before and it's putting the Russians on their heels. And Ukraine wants to launch a big counteroffensive on the southern city of Kherson, which Russia captured early in the war. Ukraine wants to show that it can do more than just defend, that it can actually take back territory. The big US package should seemingly reassure the Ukrainians, but doesn't it also further support that notion that this is just going to be a long war? Yeah, it really does. You know, we're now six months in and neither side appears capable of a real knockout blow.

2:22:15 It's just like Afghanistan. Yeah, exactly. It's just like Afghanistan. And it was the same thing there. The Russians were in there and we kept just feeding the, you know, we're the ones that created the rebels, the bin Laden types. Yeah. And kept giving them weapons. There's a whole movie made about this, as a matter of fact, starring Tom Hanks as the congressman that was somewhat behind the idea of throwing money at Afghanistan to keep the Russians. Well, that's mr. Mr. Mr. Wilson's war I think is what it's yes. Yeah, I think that was it. Mr Wilson's war Yeah, I still think that my cousin worked for the real Wilson at some point as a guy That was made out to be a hero and he's just a bad guy. Oh, yeah Charlie Wilson's war. There you go. Charlie Wilson's war. That's what it was. Oh

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Oak Ridge National Lab, Classified Documents, Nuclear Security

A caller to a news program describes the strict security protocols at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Y-12 National Security Complex. The caller argues that Donald Trump's handling of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago is a betrayal of the thousands of workers who face severe consequences for minor security infractions.

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2:23:09 Well, that's all rather distressing that it's uh, that this bullcrap just it's just like and and as usual News media just teeth treats it like oh, it's just all good. Well, yeah, but they do. All right, so your balls in your court Well, what do I have? Remember I had technical technical challenges Well, then I got this clip that I carried over from last show Which is a call-in guy bitching and moaning about one thing or another and of course it all turns into Trump. Oh Let's go to Steve in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Democratic caller. Hi Steve, your top news story of the week. Hey, thank you. I love talking to you. Listen, I grew up in the secret city. I live here now. My father worked at Oak Ridge Gas's diffusion plant. My brother worked at Oak Ridge Gas's diffusion plant. It was dismantled.

2:24:09 Now in Oak Ridge we have Oak Ridge National Lab and the Y-12 National Security Complex. Now everybody that works there has got to have a top secret clearance from janitors to painters to plumbers to the world class scientists. And that's not an easy deal to get. And just what I really want to say is my brother pees through a ostium because of the work he did out there. He lost his bladder, his prostate, his urethra. One third of the people working in his division had the same thing happen to them. My father-in-law could not breathe, he had COPD from working out there. I have friends that worked out there that have cancer. And I will tell you, with top secret information,

2:25:01 I cannot get up even leave their office. I have one friend that accidentally threw a piece of top secret information in the garbage and she went through hell. And luckily they were able to get it back before it went to the barn center. So I think what I'm trying to say is there's been thousands of people who have worked in top secret, mainly in nuclear weapons and other things that have had serious health issues, and if they'd ever even tried to take any of that information out of there, they'd still be in jail. So if you think that one person has a right to take top-secret information from the government, you just need to come to Jesus Meeting, because

2:25:54 Donald Trump has threw thousands and thousands of people under the bus. Thank you so much for letting me have my say, Greg. I do have two more clips. Well, I'll tell you this, he said Donald Trump is throwing thousands of people under the bus. Under the bus, that's right. I'm so sick of this story. It's such a distraction. It's the biggest distraction of the week, in fact.

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Harvey Weinstein Appeal, Twitter Whistleblower, Elon Musk

Disgraced producer Harvey Weinstein is granted an appeal in New York. Simultaneously, Twitter whistleblower Peiter "Mudge" Zatko alleges egregious security and privacy deficiencies at the company. The hosts discuss how these allegations might impact Elon Musk's ongoing legal battle to exit his Twitter acquisition deal.

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2:26:34 It overshadowed important news. Also breaking tonight, disgraced movie producer Harvey Weinstein has been granted an appeal in New York on his conviction for rape and sexual assault. Weinstein was found guilty more than two years ago and has argued that his trial judge made mistakes. He's serving a 23-year prison sentence. He's gonna get off. He's gonna get out. Tell me right now didn't we have that as our thesis from the get-go? Yeah, but now it's time now. It's time for him to get out You know going back to your Zuckerberg clip with Rogan I'm telling you he he input he said three or four times in that clip We didn't do like Twitter Twitter took a different path. You know unlike Twitter. There's something against Twitter and

2:27:19 Including the new whistleblower! Yay! Tonight, explosive allegations from a Twitter whistleblower. Inside this 84-page complaint obtained by CBS News, Peter Muczadko says there are extreme egregious deficiencies inside Twitter when it comes to user privacy, digital and physical security. Zetko worked as Twitter's head of security for two years before he was fired this past January. What he found inside this company was unlike anything he'd seen elsewhere. John Tai is Zetko's attorney. Does he still believe that Twitter

2:27:55 Twitter users are still at risk. Absolutely. And that's why he reluctantly has decided to become a whistleblower. The complaint details multiple respects at which the data and individual users are handled differently than Twitter has said publicly. This latest blow comes as the website is engaged in a war with Elon Musk, who pulled out of buying Twitter over concerns about the number of spam bots on the site. There was no coordination. We've never communicated with Elon Musk or his team. Twitter said Zadko was fired for poor performance and said the complaint was riddled with inaccuracies.

2:28:34 Yeah, this is, it's interesting because Twitter still at like $40 a share. I mean, this is enough to tank the company, but I guess that they, people really believe that Elon Musk is going to have to pay up and pay, you know, the $54 and 20 cents a share. Can they, can this re, I don't see how that's going to happen ever. Well, your position has always been that this is bullcrap. He's out to destroy the company, which he's doing. But he's not really, he's not destroying the stock price per se. Not doing a good job so far, but he's got time on his hands. You know, it's interesting, I was hate listening... On his side, he's got time on his side. I was hate listening to Pivot with Kara Swisher. Now, Professor Scott is on vacation, probably in Thailand.

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Student Loan Forgiveness, Contract Law, Economic Impact

The hosts discuss the Biden administration's student loan forgiveness plan and the reactions from Republican lawmakers in South Dakota. They debate whether the move is inflationary or deflationary and criticize the skyrocketing cost of tuition at private institutions like Biola University.

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2:29:25 And so they... What? Yeah, I'm just implicating him. For no good reason, just for fun. So they've had... What? We know the reason. So they've had different guest hosts on, one of which was Monica Lewinsky. Now I didn't clip any of this, but I've been listening throughout the past, even when Scott was on, this is how the conversation about Twitter goes. Well, he signed a contract. This is contract law. It says contract. The judge knows contract law is very strong. He's just going to suck it up. He's going to have to buy the company because it's contract law. This judge doesn't mess around with contracts. Is that similar to what you might have heard around town?

2:30:12 I haven't heard much around town, but I can imagine somebody thinking that way. When in fact what you really hear in the Valley is, you know, any contract can be broken. Yeah, but meanwhile in the same show they'll say, well of course you should be able to get debt, student debt forgiveness. Just because you signed a contract doesn't mean you have to pay it. These people. I have my student loan impact update clip. No, no, no. What time? Yeah, we got a little time. We always got time. It's a podcast. South Dakota's congressional delegation are condemning the Biden administration's student loan forgiveness. SDPB's Lee Strubinger has more. According to the U.S. Department of Education, South Dakotans have an average of $32,000 in federal student debt.

2:31:03 John Thune is the second-ranking Republican in the US Senate. He calls the student debt... Stopped? The clip just stopped. He says that South... This is South Dakota Public Radio. He says that South Dakotans have an average 32,000 something student debt. That's what he said, yeah. Does he saying the entire state? That doesn't make any sense at all. Let's listen again. South Dakota's congressional delegation are condemning the Biden administration's student loan forgiveness. This is NPR or local NPR? SDPB's Lee Strubinger has more. According to the U.S. Department of Education, South Dakotans have an average of $32,000 in federal student debt.

2:31:46 John Thune is the second-ranking Republican in the US Senate. He calls the student debt relief unfair. Thune says he financed his college degrees himself. Well, I financed a lot of it myself. I got some scholarship help, but I paid for it with loans. I worked hard every summer, saved money. I didn't come from a family that could help me. But I just, you know, a lot of it was scholarships and loans, like a lot of students around the country. Thune attended Biola University in California on a basketball scholarship. He graduated in 1983. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, the average cost for tuition and fees in the United States for the year Thun graduated from Biola was $2,344. Biola now estimates its tuition cost per year is over $44,000.

2:32:38 That doesn't include housing, books and meal plans. Republican Senator Mike Rounds says he has constitutionality concerns about the move by the Biden administration. He says he graduated undergrad with about $10,000 in student loans. I carried it forward, paid it off over a period of about eight years afterwards while I was back in the business community and with a growing family. And Jean at that time, she actually came through and had some student debt. but not near as much as I did. She was a better saver than I was. Yeah, we just paid it off over a period of about eight years. Browns graduated from South Dakota State University in 1997. The national annual cost for tuition, room and board that year was $2,400.

2:33:22 SDSU estimates that cost is now over $17,000 a year. Republican Representative Dusty Johnson calls the move a slap in the face to those who did the right thing and paid off their student debt. I got an interesting note, I'm just seeing if I can find it here, that one of our producers said you've got it all wrong. That this student debt cancellation will be in fact deflationary. Any, any help? Is there an explanation for this? Yeah, that's why I was looking for it. Yeah, during the whole clip I was looking for it and I'm sad I don't seem to be able to find it. But it was something like, hey, you get rid of the asset and then nothing happens. The asset is just gone. And I guess the way he, if I could find it I'll read it, but the way he deconstructed it, it sounded like, now the government has already paid the colleges all that money so it's just the government that needs to strike it off their balance sheet? Is that it?

2:34:27 Or do they actually take the money and then send it on later? I don't know how they're handling this on the books. But I mean in general, just with these student loans, is the college paid in full up front? I guess that would be yes, right? No, no, the college is already paid. That's done. They're paid up, they're done. Yeah, interesting. Well, I'm gonna have to find that from him. Because I was like, wow, really? That doesn't sound... It's such a mind bender when you come to just phantom money and the way the government deals with money. It's not money! Just balance sheet shit. Ooh, show title. Balance sheet shit. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda. In the morning.

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Producer Credits, Birthday Announcements, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conclude the producer credits, thanking individuals for their "time, talent, and treasure." They announce birthdays for listeners and staff, including the show's webmaster, Tim. A formal knighting ceremony is held for new knights, including Sir Gregory of the Continual Vacation and Sir Goat of the Hill.

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2:35:20 We have a few people to thank for show 1481. Yes sir. Kenneth, starting with Alexander Van Ebel in Bronx, New York, 12132. Kenneth Hallstead Jr. in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. 103.33 Randy Bradbury in Huntington Beach California 84 Joe Rapita in Melbourne Melbourne 8008 He needs a de-douching Hold on a second I wasn't at all prepared for that You've been de-douched He also would like to get an F cancer for his dad

2:36:08 Okay, oh. Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I was just setting up the other stuff. It just takes a minute. Robert Umberger with another boobs donation from Langhorne, Pennsylvania. And you got Katlyn is on the birthday list. Robert. Indeed. Sir Herb Lamb, Duke of the South. Sugar Hill, Georgia 8008 and to round things off is Janine Agler in Garfield Heights, Ohio Another 8008 after Adam butchered a name in episode 1414. Thanks for getting my name right the last donation. Hmm. Oh, wait a minute. There's one more sir Kevin McLaughlin

2:37:06 Duke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Double boobs. Of course, Locust, North Carolina. Thank you sir. 8008. 8006 for in Valparaiso, Indiana is Joe Ornelia, Ornelas, Ornelas I think. That's a lopsided? That's a lopsided. Boobs is worse. Joe Dirks, Amsterdam, Netherlands, Holland. 7777. Gary Blatt, 7777. Oh, he's promoting the Oh no, he says, I couldn't be at the Dutch meetup Saturday so the least he could do is donate, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Joe, yeah, Joe Dirks. Everyone should think that way. Gary Blatt, Wayne, Pennsylvania, 7777. John Fuller in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 7777. Glad Adam spoke at the Podvimovie.

2:37:56 Great stuff in your presentation. This is what he's... Thank you. Sir Vegas Ray, Knight of Naked City, of the Naked City which has lost wages in Nevada, 6969, Joshua Jones, 6969, Shannon, Illinois, Matt Thurman, 6969 in Newcastle, Colorado. He's got a birthday for someone. And a deducing request. You've been deduced. Actually I see Joshua also needs a deducing since... Joshua Jones. You've been deduced. You're lucky you're getting these. That's not what we normally do them. No, we always do the deducing here. Well, when you skip over them.

2:38:41 Oh no, normally, no, we do skip over him a lot because we don't, I'm reading this slide, you're supposed to look for the other stuff. Oh, okay, I'm sorry, it's my job. Got it. It is. Okay. Sir, what, what, what, what? Sir Kevin McLaughlin's back? Duke of Luna, lover of American boobs, 6006? He completes the boob hat trick in one show. He's got the boob, is, is, is the boob. No, it's two. Yes, two. He's the boob. Two, two, two. There's only two involved. Richard Warfield Jr. in Charlotte, North Carolina, 5510. Mickey Keck, Mickey Keck in Lustwages, Nevada. He's got a birthday card for his wife. Dave of the OTR. Scott Evers in Dallas, Texas, 5101. Brian Richardson in Aurora, Illinois, 5211.

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2:41:05 Greg Hartlob in Cincinnati and he's got his nighting I guess. I got this in the morning. He has nighting today so we will read his note. The $50 PayPal donation scheduled for 8-26 will get me just over nighthood my smoking hot wife of 45 years. Woohoo! 45 years together or she 45 who knows smack me in the mouth just over a year ago And I started listening to no agenda Thank you for your courage and providing the best podcast in the universe as I continue to listen to all your podcasts No agenda DH unplug Mo facts with curry and of course curry in the keeper. I didn't realize how complacent I had become Accepting news at face value. I knew better. I just got lazy. No agenda is incredible incredible incredible incredible

2:41:47 Incredible, and it's keeping me sane in a sea of insanity. Blessings to you both. For the knighthood, unless it's already taken, I'd like to be Sir Gregory of the Continual Vacation. Please deduce me. You've been deduced. And your yak karma is on the way for the round table mutton and meat, of course, and if it doesn't strain the budget, add a skyline four-way beans no onions, I'm not gonna ask, and a wee dram of 16-year-old logvullen... log... lagavullens... lagvullen... single malt, slanja. Thank you for your courage. Many blessings to both you and Adam from Greg Hartlaub in Cincinnati, Ohio. He's referring to the Skyline Chili Folk. Ah, is that what it is? Got it. Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina. Matthew Dixon in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Aaron Weisberger in, right, Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon. And last but not least on our list today,

2:42:42 In Beaverton, Oregon we have Sir Alan Bean Yes, and thank you all very much. Thank these producers. It's highly appreciated Of course again, thanks to the executive and associate executive producers who came in earlier If you'd like to support the show You can do it with your time your talent your treasure The best way to learn is go to what we have a website sing along with the jingle org Yeah karma has requested you've got Harmony Another finalist today Robert Umberger Says happy birthday to Caitlin who will be four on August 26. Happy birthday Matt Thurman celebrating on the 28th

2:43:34 What are we today the 28th? That's today Sean O'Connor tomorrow Mickey Keck. Happy birthday to his awesome wife Joyce Dame of the OTR her birthday's tomorrow Of course, we had Dame Sarah saying happy birthday to her smoking hot husband the Rolando Gonzalez He turns 44 today Steven Guevara turns 33 and Sir Goat of the Hill will be celebrating his 49th birthday on September 13th Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe Let me see... No... Wait! I'm missing somebody here. I am missing Tim. There it is. Special birthday shout out to Tim who did the... who maintains No Agenda website and he will be turning 30 on the 31st. I think he was at the big Dutch meetup yesterday as well. So happy birthday Tim. Thank you so much. You provide a lot of time and talent and it's really appreciated.

2:44:29 Alright, let's grab some braids and some blades. We got knights. I'm ready for your knight. There's a blade right there. Tim Esau, Greg Hartlove, Darren Christie, and Eric Curtis popping up here in the modium. All of you become knights of the Noah-Jenna Round Table today, and Tim actually is a black knight since he already achieved status, but was never knighted. So he becomes Sir... Ten-T. I'm very proud to pronounce the K-U that, Tim. Also Sir Gregory of the Continual Vacation, Sir Dagwood, and Sir Goat of the Hill. For you gents, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.

2:45:07 We got Gosling's Black Seal Rum Skyline 4-Way Beans No Onions and a wee dram of 16-year-old Lagavulin Single Malt. Along with that, you might want to mix it with some sparkling cider and Escort's Ginger Ale and Gerbils or just some mutton and mead as requested as well. Thank you. for supporting the NOAA Gender Show and the amount of $1,000 or more that gets you the title, the everlasting title of Knight of the NOAA Gender Roundtable with the name of your choice. You get the Cignet ring which will be sized to your finger if you go to noagendination.com slash rings and let us know what size and where to send it. And of course your wax for sealing your important correspondence along with your certificate of authenticity. Thank you again

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Global Gatherings, Community Reports

Audio reports from No Agenda meetups in London, Las Vegas, and Tidewater, Virginia, are played. The hosts promote upcoming gatherings in Detroit, Indiana, and Ohio, encouraging listeners to organize their own local events via the show's meetup website.

meetups· london· las vegas· norfolk· detroit· indiana

2:45:48 for supporting the NO Agenda show. Some call it the best podcast in the universe. NO Agenda Meetups! It's like a holiday! Where we had no reports on the last show, we've got two reports and a promo. Dames and Knights, Producers and Douchebags all, I call upon the commenters of the Virtue Signal List to provide their presence on Saturday September the 3rd at the best pub on the Thames, Samuel Swift's The Angel from 2 BM Bridge, Summertime! I am blown away by that. That was pretty good. That's a goof.

2:46:44 GWFF, this man is multi-talented. Down the rabbit hole and back again. This is John in Las Vegas and Captain Morgan has left the building. That's right, this is future Sir Gutex. My donation is coming in this week. ITM gentlemen, thank you for your courage and everything you do. And this is Tacos. We might be a small group but we are mighty! It's been a great meetup here in Vegas. We're a little late for Defcon, but next week in Denver! Very excited bunch there. Tidewater, how's your slave meetup? This is Dane Nguyen off the legs at the first Tidewater meetup. I'm passing the phone. Hi, this is Joe Gwaltney from Elberon, Virginia reporting live from

2:47:36 Elevation Brewing, where the beer is cold and the koof is low. Stay safe! It's Gary, Dame Wen of the Lakes, lesser half. I'm John. I was invited here. I don't know who these people are. They say y'all can help me. Hello John and Adam, in the morning to you. This is Sir Sean of Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. We're doing it live at the, what is it, Norfolk, Virginia. This is future knight Dr. No visiting from FEMA region number six, Norfolk. And I prefer to hit people in the mouth rather than pay my own way. This is sheep from Hampton, Virginia. It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. And Chris is the spook. In the morning!

2:48:19 And meetups happening today, the new Detroit meetup is in San Francisco. Interestingly enough, 2.30 Pacific Anchor Steam Public Taps, Crossroads of America No Agenda Tribal Gathering, three o'clock in Indiana, so that's probably underway as we speak. We have the 7.19 local, 7.19, six o'clock Mountain and Colorado Springs, you can make that for sure. And just before my birthday on the second Friday, Columbus Central Ohio Meetup, 6.30 at Lucky's Grill and Sports Bar in Hilliard, Ohio. Go check them out, the No Agenda Meetups. They are a phenomenon. Completely producer organized. Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find anything near you, start one yourself. Guaranteed a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.

2:49:13 Man I'm really hoping you have something else besides that stupid air horn as your ISO because that's all I had too. That was gonna be my ISO. Oh, yeah. Well, I have it too. So it's something we both agree on. Oh, okay. Let's see. What is this? We have done the work. I have a second one and here it goes. Oh, it's very muffled. We have done the work. I'm not blown away. That's because Mushmouse is... I'm not blown away by it. I think we got to use the air horn. Okay, well let's use the horn. The horn. Let's use the horn. One time for the one time! You got to say that, otherwise it doesn't count.

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

London LGBTQ Protest, Lesbian Exclusion, Queer Identity

The hosts discuss a video from an LGBTQ+ protest in London where a group of lesbians was reportedly excluded and told to leave by police to avoid "triggering" other participants. They analyze the shifting dynamics and terminology within identity politics.

london· lgbtq· lesbian· queer· identity politics· police

2:50:09 All right, let me see. Do we? Oh, I did have one last clip I think is important to play. It may be a little, maybe a little difficult to understand if you haven't seen it. I'm going to tell you what it is so you'll be able to hear it. There was a protest in London, an LGBTQ plus protest and there was a rift as the lesbians came up the street. They were, the TQs, the BTQs went to the cops and said we don't want, they're triggering us, we don't want them, they're hate mongers. So the lesbians are on the street going, wait a minute,

2:50:53 There's an LGBTQ protest and we're not allowed to join that protest. And the cops are like, no, and in fact, we're going to tell you to get off the road. As predicted, after the removal of the G's, the Gays and the LGBTQ with the monkey pox, here are the L's. Yeah, you'll know now, let me just explain to you and it will give you some understanding. So at the moment, your march, this group of people, is causing confrontation between different people. Now you can't hear anything? No, your setup was good though. We get the picture. Yeah, and it's unbelievable. And then the BTQs, they're yelling at the Ls.

2:51:36 Like triggered yelling, like freaking out yelling. I'll put the video in the show notes. It's really too bad because when you hear the cop talking he's like, no I'm gonna explain it to you, you're going to leave now, you're getting off the street because you are interfering with their... but we're lesbians! And the cop's like, that's fine, it's all good and fine but you're getting off the street now. There it is! BTQ. Well, they're very slowly going to change it to... they're going to take... Q. Drop that whole LBGTQ blah blah blah to queer. Queer Nation. It's all Qs. It's all Qs. Well, they can't use Q, obviously. No, but they can say queer. For obvious reasons it's not going to fly.

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Idaho Abortion Law, DOJ Challenge, Show Outro

The Department of Justice challenges Idaho's abortion ban, arguing it violates federal laws requiring hospitals to provide life-saving care. The hosts mock the use of the term "pregnant person" in the report before signing off and introducing the end-of-show music mixes.

idaho· abortion law· department of justice· federal law· medical care· outro

2:52:24 Well, I'm good to go. That's all you got? You don't have a single final clip for us? I have a little abortion clip which is kind of... it's abortion law weirdness. It might be good. It's only 36 seconds. It's fun the way you... I just have a little abortion clip. Let's roll out the little abortion clip. The Justice Department is challenging parts of Idaho's abortion ban, saying it violates federal law. Tennessee's ban is nearly identical language as Paige Flager from Member Station WPLN reports. Idaho and Tennessee's laws give abortion providers a chance to prove that the procedure was necessary to save the life of the pregnant person.

2:53:04 Only after criminal charges are brought that's different than an exception the DOJ says that aspect of Idaho's ban Violates a federal law requiring hospitals to provide life-saving care a judge agreed Pregnant person pregnant person everybody we're lost lost sober. I don't know what to say anymore other than Looking forward to our next show It'll be Thursday, so that'll be the first, yes, new month, new show. Perfect. Remember to get your gifts ready for my birthday on Saturday. I'm expecting a lot of love this year, John. How old are you now? I will be 58 years young. Coming up, we have end-of-show mixes from Deez Laffs, Neil Jones, our very own Clip Custodian, and Tom Starkweather.

2:54:08 Next on the No Agenda livestream, I think we have... It's another one of those Battle of the Douchebags, I believe. Something cool like that. Yes, Booberry, Lavish, Sir Seatsitter, and Sir Doocipher from InfoWars. Cool. That'll be the Battle of the Douchebags coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, which is FEMA Region Number 9 for your information, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday here on your NO AGENDA. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA until then. Adios mofos and such. My children it's a Sunday morning service. It's your NO AGENDA. You're gonna get some Adam Curry. You're gonna get a little John.

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End of Show Mix, News Recaps, Food Crisis

The episode concludes with a musical mix featuring news clips about the Young Thug RICO indictment, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and Joe Biden's Paxlovid rebound. The mix also touches on rising food prices, fertilizer shortages, and global inflation.

young thug· roe v. wade· paxlovid· food prices· fertilizer· inflation

2:54:55 Yeah, uh, it's the return of these laughs comedy bar at 8pm the first of the month September 22 my friend come on through click the ticket link in the bio is what I'm urging you to do shout out to my uncle Sayo with the price of admission giveaways from Spirit Leaf for Little Italy and Burnin' Sauce don't be missing What's in the news today? I'm on the subway and I'm writing on the TTC Yeah you know me, fat girl now she hopes A mess from the trailer, look like Shrek did his best to squeeze into a dress Young Thug and Gunner were indicted, you surprised with those names A RICO charge is coming now to find out who's to blame Trans in sports, football

2:55:43 They got commercials with slogans like trans kids wanna play Cause they been demonizing Christ since the beginning Like Donald said, you might get tired of all the winning Roe v. Wade was overturned I said your roving rate was overturned, thank god for more black children being born. How is that your penis gone? Rather give a kid a wifi pass than sell it with her access to porn. I mean killing our kids with too much, let them live. These boys can toss a ball but these men can toss a frisbee. We do see some, in some people who get Pax Lovett, we even see this in people who have not gotten it, that they get better and then they get a revamp.

2:56:23 President Biden ended his isolation this morning after a second negative COVID test. As he left the White House for Delaware, the president told reporters he felt good. He experienced a rebound infection last week after completing a five-day course of the anti-COVID drug Paxlovid. First Lady Jill Biden tested positive again for COVID in an apparent rebound case. She had taken Paxlovid when she first tested positive last week. And quite honestly, a rebound after Pax Lovitt happened to me, it happened to Tony Fauci, Dr. Fauci. You do hear about these rebounds, these Pax Lovitt rebounds from time to time.

2:57:20 Oh From farm to table, food prices are up. You know if you've gone out to a restaurant recently or maybe even a bar, you may have noticed that some menu items are more expensive. With Russia as a top fertilizer exporter, prices have shot record highs in the last month. You don't need us to tell you that trips to the grocery store are getting pricier. Well we're not expecting a food shortage here at home. So basically this food crisis is already in process in progress. It's a slow motion disaster that is already underway. Food insecurity goes hand in hand with inflation. We have a new pandemic which is inflation. The food already having risen in cost the upcoming crop season will be vital for determining future prices of a range of different products all the way from gasoline to ground beef. It's simply not available. Fertilizer is simply not available. With regard to food shortages, yes we did, we were still talking about food shortages.

2:58:20 And, uh, and it's gonna be real. The price of these sanctions is not just imposed upon Russia. It's imposed upon an awful lot of countries as well, including European countries and our country as well. The best podcast in the universe! Mopo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. PAAAAAAA