Episode 148 · Sunday, 15 November 2009

Adam Gets Kicked Out

A hotel room in Armonk becomes the staging ground for a deconstruction of forced vaccinations, reptilian political theories, and the looming economic threat of carbon trading.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 148

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Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton face scrutiny as the House Speaker defends health care mandates that could lead to prison time for the uninsured. In Manila, Secretary of State Clinton repeatedly used the acronym MILF to describe the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, sparking widespread mockery. Meanwhile, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the strategic relocation of IBM headquarters to Armonk, New York, a Cold War move designed to survive a nuclear strike on Manhattan.

Public health concerns escalate as reports emerge of a student in Wheeling, West Virginia, being restrained by sheriff's deputies for a forced H1N1 vaccination. In Ukraine, a lethal respiratory illness linked to Baxter International research labs fuels fears of a pneumonic plague, while 70% of the French public rejects experimental vaccines. Kenneth Green of the American Enterprise Institute and Margot Thorning testify before the Senate, warning that cap and trade legislation will trigger a carbon bubble, reduce U.S. GDP by 2.4%, and eliminate millions of jobs to benefit investors like Al Gore.

Adam Curry broadcasts from a La Quinta Inn waffle station while being pressured by hotel staff to check out mid-recording. The hosts explore the ABC series V as a metaphor for David Icke's reptilian theories, noting that public figures like Bill Gates exhibit inappropriate smiles and a lack of human emotion. Stephen Shearer and MWG earn executive producer credits for their support of the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 28 Discussion

Curry and Dvorak Open Episode 148 from Armonk and Silicon Valley

Adam Curry broadcasts from a La Quinta Inn in Armonk, New York, while John C. Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley for episode 148 of the No Agenda show. The hosts discuss the early morning recording time and Curry's experience with the hotel's self-service waffle station. They establish the "Church of No Agenda" theme for the Sunday morning session.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· armonk· silicon valley· la quinta· gitmo nation

00:01 I thought this was one of your sound effects with Crackpot calling the kettle black. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorak It's November 15th 2009 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 148 This is no agenda With news on the Kim Jong-il drinking club and coming to you from the La Quinta Crack Pot Command Center in upstate New York, Gitmo nation east I'm Adam Curry. And from a sunny... the sun just came up as a matter of fact, northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. Dvorak. It's Quack Pot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yeah really in the morning. Early. Too much in the morning. I appreciate it John you know that really does show some love for this show. You're up what is now quarter to eight? Well yeah I got up at seven. Well it is The Church Of No Agenda

00:57 early service on the church of no agenda so I'm at the lovely La Quinta what is it officially? Inns and Suites oh yeah those are nice. No they're not! Yeah, they're fine. There goes our free room. No freeroom either I love it when you want to go have breakfast. And of course they're having a great breakfast up at the house, but you know it's like I can't have a breakfast up at the house because I got to do my damn show and... So they had what just a starched breakfast that they serve as these hotels? Dude! It's amazing. They have a waffle iron and in a big tonne of waffle goop

01:42 that could be poured into a paper cup. Oh, you make your own waffles? Yeah! That's kind of funny. It is cute and you pour your goop in there and flip it over and the timer starts automatically and boy I'm still feeling the waffle You'll be tasting it all day. It feels outstanding Today's executive producer, by the way is Stephen Shearer. Okay Of all people and I said that because he and the boys at MWG One of the arms companies in Miami that makes the 90-rounder for the m16 Wait a minute! We are now part of the military industrial complex John

CHAPTER 02 / 28 Discussion

Stephen Shearer and MWG Named Executive Producers for Episode 148

Stephen Shearer and the team at MWG, a Miami-based firearms accessory company, are named executive producers after providing the highest donation of $90. The company is noted for manufacturing the 90-round magazine for the M16 rifle. The hosts encourage listeners to use the executive producer title on their professional resumes.

stephen shearer· mwg· m16· magazine· executive producer· donation· miami

02:29 Well, at least in so far as fandom is concerned. Okay well excellent! So of course you know the deal if you want to be executive producer of one of our shows all you have to do is come in with the highest donation for that particular episode how much did we receive from The Boys? Well it was maybe he got in under the wire because there was only $90 dollars that was our highest number this week That's it?! Yeah. Well, thank you very much and Stephen Sheeran he can also put it in his resume and of course we do appreciate the boys at MWG for Being creative. Yeah, so you can put a 90 rounder What is that? That's a clip or a magazine I guess it's a magazine So we really appreciate the donation and you can't put that on your resume now as the executive producer of no agenda episode 148 We will vouch for you. So feel free to use that and it could get your gigs It could actually get you a job

03:30 Yeah, if you don't want to shoot your way into a job. So do they make the magazine magazine or the actual ammunition magazine? They make them what's the difference well there's a magazine where you put ammunition into and there's a magazine that you read Which one did I make It's good then make the one you put ammunition into awesome when you And it's called the 90 rounder. The 90 rounder, yeah five bucks a month So if you're looking for a great deal on a 90 rounder If you want to shoot your way to freedom check out the boys down at what was it called? MWG I'm sure most gun enthusiasts know about these guys so I am in upstate New York

CHAPTER 03 / 28 Discussion

IBM Headquarters Location and Cold War Nuclear Strategy

The International Business Machines (IBM) headquarters is located in Armonk, New York, due to strategic decisions made during the 1950s and 60s. A historical study suggested moving the headquarters out of Manhattan to protect the company from a potential nuclear strike. The hosts debate whether the location would actually remain safe from survivors fleeing a destroyed New York City.

ibm· armonk· manhattan· nuclear strike· cold war· corporate headquarters

04:27 in Armonk near the lovely headquarters of the International Business Machines Incorporated. Yeah, and you know why they moved to Armonk right? No I have no idea! Cheap real estate?! Well it's...I don't know if it was that cheap but it is kind of a ritzy area It's very ritzy, it's incredibly expensive up here uh... they had dinner port a study in the i'd believe it was in the fifties or early sixties discussing what would would they do and so far businesses concerned if that manhattan where they were headquartered leave at the time ur of around there how was nukes really and so they decided on mark as a safest place it's not interested

05:17 Yes, that's why they're there. Yeah Oh and do you think if a nuke dropped on Manhattan that our monk actually would be safe? Well I'm sure it wouldn't be after the hordes of Survivors hated yeah his survivors came pouring in there shooting it up probably not but That's what this but the report indicates so I'm really hoping this connection stays alive John You are kind of you know downloading porn or anything aren't you Just make sure. No, it's already breaking up already? Well a little bit It's pretty clean but just from time to time it's stuttering a bit Yeah, it's getting worse we're gonna have to move the gizmo no I don't think so you watch So of course I'm up here for a big family gathering its my dad 70th birthday and this of course is that the family homestead better known as these South Fork of the curry clan

CHAPTER 04 / 28 Discussion

Kim Jong-il Movie Recommendations and Potential Wine Tasting

Adam Curry recounts a conversation with his uncle, Don Curry, regarding his past correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il. Don Curry reportedly sent movies such as The Patriot and Brothers in Arms to the Supreme Leader, who allegedly enjoyed them. The hosts propose sending a new list of DVDs to Kim Jong-il to facilitate a future wine tasting meeting for John C. Dvorak.

kim jong-il· north korea· don curry· the patriot· brothers in arms· wine tasting

06:13 Coincidentally located in Armonk. Yes, hmmm... That's a very interesting thought. Coincidence? I think not! No we know how safe it is and of course this is where my uncle Don lives with his lovely wife Aunt Meg and as God as my witness John I popped the question on him last night Okay, I said any laughter. I did he laugh out loud let me and Mickey was there she could attest to it I said Don have I would be remiss if I did not ask you straight to your face um we know about Kim Jong-il and we know about his fabulous wine collection and My partner John C. DeWark And I think that the guy probably just wants to have a good good Tasting with someone who just won't give him any crap, and I'll just talk about the wine

07:09 and then the laughter came. And he said, well you know unfortunately I have not met the Supreme Leader of Northern Korea however says that i have had some correspondence with him he sent some letters and even better he sent in some movies for Kim Jong-il to watch He gave me a list including The Patriot and Brothers In Arms and uh... whispers you know the indian decoders and then we're came back that they can join a little enjoyed them very very much and as i made it by i'm starting to make my own list of movies we cannot recommend uh... and we can send to kim jong il in hopes of course will get a fine wine tasting someday in the future i think we send him team america

08:05 You have any thoughts? Well yeah, there's this wine movie that I haven't seen myself. It's floating around and everyone just talks about it. It's mostly about Bordeaux Wine. Well why don't we have our producers put together a list of cool movies and then i'll go out now buy the DVDs will probably get them on VHS I don't know if he has a DVD player. Oh, ask him please! What region code does he need to use? We have to find some... You know what there's no doubt that he's got it he's got a zero code uh yeah it's got no restrictions he can play whatever you want you sure now

08:45 I would be stunned if he didn't. So, come on! I think we should put together a list of cool movies for King Jung-il to watch you know we can actually get them to him We've got a direct line That's good point then we could put in subtle hints about the wine tasting. Exactly! Can you imagine that grief I'd have to go through with the State Department if we ever pull this off? No, we're gonna pull it off! We can get these videos to them there's been like two shipments so far So there could be a third... The trifecta, we're in come on this is the door has opened as a crack we can get in John I'm telling ya Well thats progress thank-you very much Yeah, its not like I'm not trying to hook a brother up You know what I am saying

09:27 Yeah, it works for me. So uh... Okay we'll just keep this going. We're gonna track it But I think people out there should give us a list of what they think Kim Jong-il would be interested in as an entertainer As a good movie! Maybe we can influence the guy a little bit and again the entire mission is not to save the world we just want to get John out there to have a nice drink with the guy Yeah, right and then I can come back and tell you what it's not for those of you who are wondering what this program is all about here's our formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth. And sometimes we send them DVDs

CHAPTER 05 / 28 Discussion

H1N1 Vaccination Lines and Public Panic in Albany

Large crowds gathered at a community center in Albany, New York, to receive H1N1 vaccinations, with lines reportedly stretching over a mile. Officials used clipboards to screen families and pregnant women for eligibility while police monitored the scene. The hosts compare the UK term "jabs" to the American "shots" and question the government's management of the vaccine supply.

h1n1· swine flu· albany· vaccination· public health· h1n1 vaccine

10:12 So we should probably do a just as short swine flu minute. Oh my goodness is it? Okay, I wasn't really prepared for John but if you say so... Oh boy! It's early in the show let's hit it So I go over to the library yesterday to drop off some books in Albany and I'm coming down the road, I turn into the parking lot and there's a cop there. So I move up further, there's a horde of moms and dads and their two kids. And they're walking us now there must be some party or something going on. There must be a book signing or some rock star or maybe Taylor Swift is in town? So I go around drive around the corner to front there is a line I swear to God it was a mile-and-a-half long

11:09 And there's big signage that has all been printed up officially. H1N1 vaccinations! And they had a bunch of people wearing these yellow, looked like you know these bright yellow outfits with clipboards and they're going from person to person to person asking them what about them whether they are eligible for this round of shots Oh and by the way I find it interesting That it because I was watching a lot of UK coverage the UK calls them jabs Yes, they do and we call them shots and where the ones who are really like guns. They don't They like to fight as well actually is interesting that they like to fight with knives over in the UK that's that's a very good point so so we kind of have the The gun metaphor yeah, and the UK they use the Knife-and-fisticuffs metaphor I liked that

12:09 Yeah, isn't that interesting? Anyway. So I'm going there and they're asking people questions They fill out a form ask your age and it was mostly kids. I'm telling you it was mostly families It was mom and dad or mom Or mom in a stroller or pregnant mom in a stroller or pregnant mom and a dad in the stroller And a kid and uh There's just I'm telling this line was so long I took a try I couldn't even find the end of it because that was like screw it I'm not gonna walk this line. And where was this like a shopping mall or what exactly? No, no it was at the community center which is attached to the Albany library and so again just when...it was unbelievable and it was not what I call swiftly moving line

12:54 and i'd ran into somebody shortly thereafter who said that the weight was three hours now were they doing the missed the nasal mist with the actual live virus or were they using the uh... the attenuated version? As far as I know they were doing the shot. But they may have had miss there for the kids, I have no idea, I didn't get into that place but anyway the questioner said make him feel odd while you get to take a shot and give it down It was like Sophie's Choice kind of thing What was their criteria I wonder whether you get the shot or not. that allows them to get the shot and they give like, they tear one off for the kid and then they tear one of for the mom that's pregnant. And you know what? They should be scalping these things! This is a great aftermarket John we need to be getting these chits or whatever you call it I mean we need to be scalping this on the corner this is good well makes you wonder with the kind of demand there is why isn't the government paying for most of this stuff as far as I can tell I don't know if this would cost anything

14:05 uh... resort you know if you got to be predicted the entire public in a panic nickel under bucks apart exactly and he was already set aside ten billion dollars for the entire program which of course it each shot has a an excise tax of sir like a buck fifty which is hidden so yeah why not have a little bit more money that's perfect Yeah, I mean it was unbelievable and this line was... It was... And of course everyone's socializing. Well you know we're getting in line. We're gonna get ours. I think they are going to run out and uh... I don't know just like wow! You should have stood in line and said I'm pregnant can't you tell? Please let me in. I need to have the shot. If we had been there three hours just to do the one gag I don't think is worth it. It's outrageous meanwhile in Wheeling West Virginia

CHAPTER 06 / 28 Discussion

Forced Vaccinations in West Virginia and Media Fear Tactics

A student in Wheeling, West Virginia, was reportedly restrained by sheriff's deputies to receive a vaccination after attempting to flee a school gymnasium. The hosts argue that mainstream media and pharmaceutical companies collaborate to create public fear for ratings and profit. They claim the severity of the swine flu is being exaggerated compared to the seasonal flu.

wheeling· west virginia· forced vaccination· big pharma· media ratings· fear mongering

14:57 There was a kid who is I guess it was at school in the auditorium, you know They're setting up these big gymnasiums shot sessions for for students and this kid ran out because he didn't want to get what they were afraid of a shot or the shot You know He's like ran away. And and then the the sheriff's deputies like coaxed him back into the into the gymnasium They grabbed him and held them down While they gave him the shot. You think this is going a little bit too far perhaps? Oh my goodness! A couple of weeks ago one of our producers sent me a story, it was again from some podunk area in the middle of nowhere like in the Carolinas or someplace and we brought some people that got sick over these shots. And I think these reports are starting to come in here and there around the world but they're being completely ignored. Of course! How about not just ignored John? How about suppressed would that be your word for you?

15:57 This could be completely suppressed. Thank you or ignored Yeah, there seems to be some people getting sick There's have been reports of people with neurological disorders after the shot Which of course is to be expected with any vaccine is what the report will say But of course it's totally safe You don't have to worry so I was distressed to see all these people lined up like sheep we could close Here's a joke of it before I closed them in it the It's like this flu is mild, it hasn't caused nearly the death toll seasonal flu has. But nobody ever lines up like this for the seasonal flu. No and it hasn't even... This will show you what? This shows you what the power of the media

16:40 And the government is when they want to push an agenda. That's amazing how they can get results, it's just a matter of pushing people around and tricking them and scaring them, oh scared! What people fail to understand is that –and it's not even like the government or whoever really pushing this swine flu agenda which I believe is pretty much big pharma and the government colluding But they don't even have to collude with big media because all big media is interested in is ratings, that's all that counts. And the way to get ratings is to scare people. You know, Balloon Boy works? Okay what can we do now? Oh wait a minute there's not enough of the vaccine! I mean it's simple you just play into the fears of everyone who has watched any science fiction movie or outbreak with Dustin Hoffman

CHAPTER 07 / 28 Discussion

French Skepticism Toward H1N1 Vaccines and Baxter Contamination

Polls indicate that 70% of the French public refuses to take the H1N1 vaccine, viewing it as experimental or a pharmaceutical scam. Reports from France suggest concerns that vaccines might contain a lethal mixture of H1N1 and H5N1 bird flu. The discussion references a previous incident where Baxter International distributed H5N1-contaminated material to six European countries.

france· baxter international· h5n1· bird flu· vaccine contamination· czech republic

17:28 and they even call it outbreak consistently instead of pandemic we've gone from pandemic to outbreak. Outbreak! Meanwhile the French are starting to... no wonder those guys, I think you wrote an email to someone who said this Jan, no wonder the French don't donate to the show they're way too smart. All their stuff is old news. Yeah whatever. Whatever! These two crackpotten boys killed have nothing new for me The French have already debunked, basically they're on the same page we are. 70% of the French say they're not going to take this shot under any circumstances. They say it's...the public is saying when they're polled that as far as their concerned a flu vaccine is experimental, the flu's not that bad all the stuff we've been saying apparently the mainstream media in France which is kind

18:21 communist dominated media they've been saying the same thing and pointing the finger at big pharma for turning this into like essentially a scam. I was even reading report here from uh... Oolala! Puntnett. Yeah these guys are great, but they're claiming something very interesting that they say that the actual vaccine of course every vaccine contains a part of the virus it's supposed to combat They're saying that it actually contains a mixture of H1N1 and H5N1, which would be the bird flu. And that of course could be a very lethal combination

18:59 Yeah, they make this claim in France. This has cropped up a couple of times that they believe or somebody's saying and which is not beyond the realm of possibility because we already know that Baxter had distributed and admitted to distributing vaccine with H5N1 in it. It's exactly what happened... And this happened in six countries in Europe! They just they distributed this. They had 75 pounds of the stuff that they'd mixed up And luckily some guy in, where was he John? Czech Republic I think. Can't remember He checked it on some ferrets which is kind of procedure and they all died! Yeah and that's not what supposed to happen. It's like you know the ferret ain't supposed to die when he gets his flu shot

19:40 So, the thinking is that if you want to be conspiratorial is that well you wanna mix these together in case so we can get somebody to live through the process and actually recombine because most of these sorts of viruses are always mating with each. And then saying why don't you take my N1 and I'll give you my H5? Then let's see what happens. to create a real pandemic so these drug companies can make some serious money. Yeah, that's why they're all holding back on making this because you know they are waiting for the mutation... They're waiting for the... What do you call it? Mutation! I guess it is the mutation. They are waiting for that and then they'll really go into full speed production

CHAPTER 08 / 28 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Vaccine Pipelines and FDA Leadership Connections

GlaxoSmithKline and other pharmaceutical companies are shifting focus toward vaccines as a primary profit center, including experimental treatments for nicotine addiction. The hosts discuss the appointment of Peggy Hamburg as the head of the FDA and her previous ties to the private sector. A personal anecdote mentions a connection to Hamburg's neighbor in Washington.

glaxosmithkline· fda· peggy hamburg· vaccines· nicotine vaccine· big pharma

20:27 Or it's still the adjuvants, which I think they're waiting to make their case to bring in the adjuvants. No, let's work on a number of projects as you said we have powerpoints from one of the drug companies that shows how they are going you know, essentially turn vaccines into their new huge profit center. Well it's the pipeline that's what they call it they call at the pipeline they're looking at this was a GlaxoSmithKline alone looked at an 18 billion dollar pipeline of vaccines. Vaccines I love it when you come up with a vaccine against addiction so there is going to be a vaccine against nicotine addiction

21:04 Which essentially means they're shooting some kind of... Which makes no sense by the way, because it's not a vaccine. Yeah but I can only imagine how it is going to be marketed because this is you know Americans in particular being the world's consumer You know, we're very susceptible to these messages. It's like well you know I've already gotten my kid the HPV vaccine so that she won't contract cervical cancer by the way you can just get a regular pap smear and avoid it as well and I'll give it to my son is well now the FDA approved it And now... you know? I don't want my kid to get hooked on cigarettes yeah let's give my kids the vaccine for that but what it is of course some kind of neurotransmitter they're shooting into your brain

21:47 I mean, right? Isn't that to suppress the whole... Yeah. And that just can't be good! It doesn't feel right. By the way my cousin Lucy who ah man she's always been one of my favorite cousins and she lives in Washington. She lives next to what's named Peggy, the new boss of the FDA Oh, yeah. You know the woman who used to be consultant for Burger King? Right and no she's got some stories I gotta get the whole list from her but she was gonna start emailing me I can't just don't mention me by name okay I won't and you know her husband is like a multi-billionaire in all kinds of interesting businesses it's so clear that The Shadow Puppet Theater is on and in full effect

CHAPTER 09 / 28 Discussion

Ukraine Pneumonic Plague Rumors and Baxter Research Labs

Reports from Ukraine suggest a highly lethal respiratory illness, referred to as N1N1, is causing widespread fatalities. The hosts link the outbreak to the presence of a Baxter International research and development lab in the country. They suggest the situation in Ukraine represents a true pandemic compared to the milder H1N1 cases elsewhere.

ukraine· n1n1· black plague· baxter international· pandemic· respiratory illness

22:43 And in Ukraine, they now say that it is not H1N1 that is killing people by...in droves. They have a real pandemic as the way pandemic used to be defined by the World Health Organization so widespread and people dying It's the N1N1 N1N1? N1N1 which is 100% lethal. It's like The Black Plague essentially I never heard of this, in fact i missed the story. Yeah now put the story and show notes at NoAgendaShow.com And of course not to forget that Baxter International the very same people who mixed H1N1 with h5n1 and distributed it to six European countries in actual flu vaccine shot have a fine R&D lab in Ukraine Well this will be our continuing coverage

CHAPTER 10 / 28 Discussion

C-SPAN Caller Criticizes Washington Politicians as Cockroaches

An 86-year-old caller named Mary contacted C-SPAN's Washington Journal to express her frustration with both political parties. She claimed the Democrats sold their souls and described Washington politicians as "lowlife cockroaches." The hosts praise her bluntness and criticize the Republican Congressman's scripted response to her outburst.

c-span· washington journal· mary· republicans· democrats· cockroaches

23:39 Yes, and we will revisit this every single show. So what else we got? You gotta do some clips. Well, I got one that complainer is the name of the clip and this is the kind of person that is probably lurking everywhere around the country and it's an old woman that's complaining and they never pick these people up anymore you if you listen to talk radio especially The Big Shots

24:14 They have screeners that talk to you for a few minutes to see if your suitable. Yeah, and put you ahead of the line and put you right on the air or dump you? Or dump because they think your nuts or whatever. For example if ever get in on The Michael Savage Show this screener is freaky about telling you not to say hello or how are you doing. I want to say hi to my family No, no. You can't even say hi to Michael Savage! He finds it annoying that people would waste his time with pleasantries and so when... I've heard him hang up on people who say Hi Michael how you doing? Click So anyway But these screeners but on C-SPAN in this case it was the Washington Journal with some Republican Congress Is this the show where they have the Democratic line, the Republican line and then the Independent Line Yeah

25:09 Yeah, well they have it on a lot of their shows. But this is a woman who called in and I don't know what line she was on because I missed that part of it but she puts obviously the independent line if you listen to this and she just has kind of an interesting complaint as meant that I just found was amusing especially the response to it Okay, okay. Good morning Steve I can't hardly hear you but... Well we can hear you so please go ahead and... Okay that was three seconds wasted. Alright I'll go ahead I'm 86 years old and I sit by all these months listening to what's going on in Washington and i got news for you the Democrats are sold their souls to hell! What did she say?

25:56 The Democrats have sold their soul to hell. Oh, okay! They're sold to HELL! That's where I was there what's the matter? And the Republicans are standing by trying to let them get away with everything they've come out and lied about and i'm also can see a lot of the future. I'm 86 years old...I'm an Indian. I know you're not interested in what I got to say but America wake up Because we are being took by a bunch of sorry lowlife cockroaches. That's what we're being took by God bless America and goddamn the Washington

26:38 I love it. She can replace you on the show, she's outstanding! Does it go on? Do they respond? Yeah they respond and the response is hilarious. Thank You Mary. Thank you Mary and I think we're all interested in what she has to say There's smoke coming out of their ears right now. To a one point, the Republicans aren't pushing back to what the Democrats are doing. Certainly in the House we're trying to push back as much as we possibly can. As Mary probably knows, the Republicans are in the minority so it just makes it hard on any one of these votes that comes along party line votes they have the vote yes and no

27:18 We offer our solutions, but we're not giving her a chance to hear them. That's not what she is saying at all! No, that's not what she is saying at all. She says you are being cooked by the cockroaches in Washington She's outstanding and you know what there and I love her just wake up America we gotta pull that. Let me see if i can find that again. So can see a lot of the future, I made it six years ago. Here comes, I love her! I know your not interested in what I got to say but America wake up! Wake Up!! Exactly fabulous. I do love watching... It's on in the morning right? That show

27:57 I don't know when it's on. I mean, you know like you, I turn on the TV and there are two channels and then you go back and forth and back and forth if there is nothing and then watch something else and then you go back to it I don't know, i think it's a weekend show. I'm not sure. Ah! I love the... well on the morning show they do that and then they take these questions and their screeners yeah they really stick out like interns who are probably sitting there like dude dude watch me put this one on the air this is cool watch this. But you know if only they would put people like that on the air all the time that's actually entertaining

CHAPTER 11 / 28 Discussion

Talk Radio Screening and Moon Water Discovery Reports

The hosts discuss the screening processes of talk radio hosts like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh, noting how they handle callers. A separate news item from Fox News regarding the discovery of 24 gallons of water on the moon is mocked. The hosts suggest this discovery is a slow disclosure of existing secret moon bases.

rush limbaugh· michael savage· fox news· moon water· nasa· moon base

28:36 Yeah, it is entertaining and it's more accurate than these other guys who are just... You know the ones that are interesting I mean if you listen to the right-wing talkers they love putting the people on that just compliment them to excess. You know Rush? I've been listening your show since the late 80s and you are one...you're a true patriot! You're like saving the country for all of us. Your the best! Yeah, I know that this guy go on say more. Yes, please say some more say more for Rushbow Rushbow here you go Thank You rush bow loves you so And savage is another one He doesn't like the pleasantries but man if somebody comes on you especially a woman comes on start to compliment him They go on for hours and never she never cuts them off

29:31 Anyway, I'm so happy. You know? I'm on the road. I've been on the road for a week I have absolutely not seen no and I take that back I saw tell of it they had it was crazy in the breakfast route the breakfast area at La Quinta Inn & Suites It's not a it's a breakfast area. This is like almost like you know the weighing station for trucks It's the breakfast area over here And they had one TV on in the left corner and catechor diagonal across the area They had another TV on, one was blaring CNN and the other one was blaring Fox. I sat in the middle going like hey... blood trickling out of my ears. And there was a guy with his kid, we were four people in the room and on Fox it's like they found 24 gallons of water on the moon!

30:21 And this guy, bless his heart he's like hear that Bobby? You can go fishing on the moon. Not for my generation son but you'll be going fishing on the moon one day and I'm like yeah if you can get around the Moon bases we already have up there it was probably some waste water Oh man. Yeah, yeah it's slowly being revealed they can't hide it anymore. Slowly the moon bases that have been there for decades are slowly being revealed oh look some water hmm we can live off the land so what other clips I got there? You got green testimony pastor approved and testimony something else

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Time Life Markets Pastor Approved Heavenly Comedy Jam

Time Life is marketing a DVD collection titled "Heavenly Comedy Jam," featuring "pastor-approved" clean Christian comedians. The hosts critique the concept of clean comedy, arguing that the removal of anger and cynicism defeats the purpose of stand-up. They view the product as a corporate co-opting of religious movements.

time life· heavenly comedy jam· christian comedy· stand-up· clean comedy

31:10 So I'm watching like one of the, uh... I think this was on Fox but this commercial has been floating around. And i didn't catch the whole thing but it's a funny commercial for a bunch of clean comics that are And I just got the... The only reason why I took this clip because I've never seen anything quite like it. There's a bunch of, it's Christian comics which by the way I have nothing against although personally from that perspective I think is blasphemous but I could be wrong. So you're talking about comic books? No comics comedians stand-ups. Ah okay alright

31:47 And so they're clean? They're clean comics. Well, they are mostly talking about church and going to church and the good Lord and all the rest of it. Oh boring! But the thing is... well by definition it should be boring but there's a couple things in here that were worth discussing or at least listening too if you want to hit it Yeah this is pastor approved yeah what was what does this run on John I have Fox and some of the Christian stations as far as i can tell. But wait! Call with your credit card order and save $10 you'll get over two hours of non-stop laughter for only $19.99 plus each DVD features exclusive bonus material including outtakes, sketches and candid interviews How's your faith affected your comedy? The anger and the rage and cynicism is gone

32:36 Heavenly Comedy Jam is not available in stores. Only Time Life can bring you this comedy club tested, pastor approved one of a kind collection. I do believe in God! So get both jam-packed DVDs of Heavenly Comedy for just $19.99 Well guys that's my life how'd I do? Order now Call 1 800 So there's a couple things that one little thing in there sound like you or me making fun of it. Yeah, I heard that yeah That was actually a guy at one of the comics doing something just yeah God. I believe in God Oh god

33:14 And that guy was different. But the one that was, Pastor Approved is funny because I... Why do you have to? You know it's just okay fine if you want to be like crazy. Yeah, Pastor Approved but my favorite was the guy asking so how has your faith affected your comedy and the guys says My anger, my rage and my cynicism is all gone. Yeah. Wait a minute! That why go see a comic I'm looking very angry. Comics are generally mean-spirited and that's one of the... they take comedy as a form of aggression so what's the point? It must be successful though, it must be working if they're running the spots on Fox continuously Well, they're not running it continuously, only seen once but what I think is interesting is Time Life doing it you know giant mega corporation co-opting religious movement good work And that kind of makes sense to me

CHAPTER 13 / 28 Discussion

Professor David Salisbury on Vaccine Adjuvants and Squalene

Professor David Salisbury, director of the UK immunization program, explains the use of adjuvants in H1N1 vaccines to boost immune response with smaller doses. He describes the ingredients as natural, including Vitamin E and fish oil (squalene). The hosts express skepticism regarding the lack of stringent FDA testing and the absence of placebo-controlled studies for these vaccines.

david salisbury· adjuvants· squalene· thimerosal· vitamin e· vaccine safety

34:05 Oh yeah, totally. Big religion big mega churches you know time lies all fits together I got one clip that I forgot to play during the swine flu minute from producer Billy in The UK get my nation east it's a professor David Salisbury director of the immunization program in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom on the popular radio for consumer program You and Yours. It's about an 18 minute interview but he pulled a clip for us that I wanted to share, it is about the hamburger helper of the vaccines, the adjuvants which primarily is thimerosal I believe another mercury... No, thimerosals are preservatives not the adjuvant Oh no! The adjuvant is squalene

34:50 Well that's one of the experimental adjuvants, the main one I think is sodium. But the whole point is the adjuvant actually make your immune system go into overdrive so that the vaccine... Yeah perks up. Perks up exactly. So I thought it may be interesting just to listen what he has to say about adjuvants you You can only guess what his thoughts are. So, what's the situation about the H1N1 swine vaccine compared with seasonal? And it is slightly different in that it has a different strain but strain changes don't matter. Strain changes don't matter?!

35:30 If they don't matter, I'm going to ask this question. I've asked it a million times on this show Why don't they put the H1N1 in the regular seasonal flu if that's all it really is? And then have them mixture, boom! Thank you It's got a tiny dose compared with ordinary seasonal vaccine The seasonal vaccine normally contains 45 micrograms which is the measurement This vaccines got less than 4 micrograms Got a tiny tiny dose But its also got in it an ingredient Wait a minute He says four... I don't know, I want to understand the measurements. He says 45 micrograms and this has only 4 micrograms? That's what he said. But it also got in it an ingredient that boost the immune response allows you to use such a tiny dose And that adjuvant that boost your immune response is made of natural ingredients vitamin E which we all take in our diet some people take as vitamins supplements as well

36:26 And it's also got a naturally occurring fish oil that again we have in our diets. And these products are there for, uh...for a good purpose. Yes they're good! For a good purpose. Good purpose? I like that. To kill you. Well let me say mention another thing that i've noticed which is another discrepancy They keep coming up with no this swine flu made exactly same as the seasonal flu There's nothing to worry about That's what the litany here in the United States Is this a lie?! Are we BS? It seems to me that there's no two stories are the same about this stuff. Does anybody find this a little suspicious? Well, so what I've understood is that you know part of the litany as well is it's been tested its safe, it's been tested, it's not a problem but if you actually read the inserts, the package inserts, the labels and the disclaimers from the four companies who have approved vaccines

37:22 What they're actually saying is that they are using the exact same process as the seasonal flu vaccine, only one ingredient is different namely the antigen, the actual virus. So our tests for seasonal flu show that this new vaccine is just a safe as that particular vaccines so they haven't actually tested anything? Yeah and then of course I heard something on them the other day it was like uh... They said um Well, you know they never test the seasonal flu vaccine either. So this is... so the process is identical so it's not anything to worry about. Yeah and in general vaccines... Thank God for that guy who shoots the vaccines into the wombat! But in general there is no stringent FDA process for vaccinations or vaccines

38:15 Not like drugs that are sold after you're sick, but before you're sick. It's like okay This is kind of the process that's okay they don't have to do a blind study where they have you know people are given a Fuzzy today John man the sugar shot plus C. Thank you was the word You're looking for yes, so people aren't there's no placebo recipients in the test So it's a problem. It's a bonanza. Well, you can't yeah no this was there's a dream come true that's why the drug is probably are slapping themselves in the forehead saying why didn't we think earlier? Well this is the way to make money Yee-haw all right talking about a way to make money for off this line from swine flu minute again We're on somehow he got back on it We keep putting this off if you have talked about V

CHAPTER 14 / 28 Discussion

ABC Sci-Fi Series V and Reptilian Conspiracy Theories

The hosts discuss the ABC remake of the science fiction series "V" and its parallels to David Icke's theories about reptilian humanoids ruling the world. They examine the show's plot involving "Visitors" who embed themselves in human society through a cult of personality. The discussion touches on internet memes portraying political figures like the Obamas and Bushes as reptilians.

v· david icke· reptilians· abc· science fiction· barack obama

39:10 Well of course I have not seen episode 2 and maybe you'll see episode 3. You're not missing much! No, it's very interesting so of course this is an age-old story as a continuously propagated by David Icke that we stem from reptilians and of course his story is a little bit different. Let's back up a minute V of course is the new science fiction show show that was on the... It's a new version of the science fiction show. Right, V which is done in the... Is this now on ABC? This was done I believe in the 70s or 80s or the 70s? In the 80s. No, V was in the 80s Was did V, the show precede Ikes theories or what it after?

39:59 That's a really good question, but I think David Ike saw V and said that's it? No because the original V series was more about visitors from another planet and not about the whole idea that The reptilians have actually been living amongst us for years and years And so what David Icke who by the way was a respected journalist He was a sports journalist as well. And he went on Terry Wogan one evening and he said well you know Of course the planet is ruled by reptilians and the entire royal family are all reptiles. And well, his career ended abruptly. I gotta tell you, I like David. Like I buy into a lot of what he's talking about but i've never...I've always had little bit of trouble with the reptile stuff from time to time It does explain a lot though! I mean like they live forever these did the Royal Family nobody ever dies prematurely They're butt ugly

40:58 They're but I they all go to the max. I'll go to the oldest they get rid when one of the non reptilians live moves in with the family there are murdered yeah, and so I mean So I mean you know I've seen pictures floating around the internet You know with absolute proof that Michelle and Barack Obama are reptilian There's been some has been some fun Photoshop work Going around the internet when it comes to that and of course, you know the entire Bush family Etc all reptilian so this kind of plays on that vibe and I guess metaphorically speaking. I kind of buy into it not not actual reptilians but that you know there is certainly a Club of people that we're not in who? Who really want to just rule the world for matter what?

41:51 So, you know if you cut away their skin they may not actually be reptiles underneath but to me there is something going on there. And I do understand though what your saying about the parallels between Obama administration and Obama as a cult of personality and how you have Anna who is the leader of the V's and how kids are getting into it, spray painting V everywhere. It's beautiful when art imitates life. I gotta watch a couple more episodes. Of course you gave it to me without commercials which is highly enjoyable. I don't know if we'll be able to sit through all the commercials once actually have watched the show in real time

42:41 No, you put it on the DVR and you pound through the commercials like everybody else does. How do those guys make money on television anymore? Well not everybody has a DVR pounding through the commer... And once in a while you get stuck watching something in real time, which is nothing but annoying. Like everybody knows once they start practicing this there's only 40 minutes of show in an hour and 20 minutes of commercial so essentially it's two minutes to show on a minute of commercial which I think by the way they should pass along I've said this before they should pass a law that makes it so you have to run two minutes a show one minute commercial two minutes of show one minute of commercial throughout the hour rather than ganging you up at the half-hour point with like 10 minutes and commercials off I don't know if i could take the interruption Johnny boy yeah I don't think anyone couldn't that would destroy TV which is my plan ok anyway so that's it I thought you had more no I don't I gotta say I kind of like this show I think you know that Anna was kinda hot now that was cool

43:44 I like her and uh... that everybody knows about and it's not much of a secret since the Vs come in there shoot up the place. And the guy, that is head of the meeting starts telling the whole story of the Vs and how they've been here forever and he just gives us the whole backstory so now there is no mystery to anything It's just basically that plot structure laid out for their listener or viewers right off the bat So now there's nothing we don't know

44:20 We know everything about the show. We know everything, there's not a trick in the book that can fool us. Do you have some illusion that the people who watch ABC primetime drama have intelligence? I'm just telling you it needs to be laid out to them. It's like here Here's the store and they'll do it again every single beginning of every episode They'll rewind it and tell you the whole thing all over again Just in case you're an idiot Here's how the storyline works And then just kind of float along with it and let that fill your brain while you watch the commercials We all know that on television The big joke is the programming is just there to fill up the time between the commercial advertisements So anyway, I wonder who's gonna be average. Yeah, I didn't pay much attention to who's advertising on the show But I would assume a number of reptilian companies would be involved You can probably make the connection between anyone who advertises on V and the fact that they're run by a reptilian What do you think totally?

CHAPTER 15 / 28 Discussion

Identifying Reptilians Through Inappropriate Smiles and Lack of Emotion

A theory is presented that reptilian humanoids can be identified by "inappropriate smiles" and a failure to understand human humor. Bill Gates and Nancy Pelosi are cited as examples of public figures who exhibit these traits during serious discussions. The hosts suggest these individuals are mimicking human emotions without truly feeling them.

bill gates· nancy pelosi· reptilians· body language· emotion· humor

45:14 Now of course John and I spend a good amount of our time watching C-SPAN and other raw video feeds just to get the real deal, distill it and pass it on to you. And there was an interesting question posed to the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi who by the way John reptilian. Absolutely! By the way one other giveaway...I got a giveaway for ya on the reptilian how to spot them? Okay And I notice this because every time I see it, and it's close to a pet peeve of mine. You see different people like Bill Gates does all the time and its always annoying. What I always call is the inappropriate smile

45:53 So maybe talking like blah, blah, blah, blah. Smile! Blah, blah, blah, blah. Smile! Yeah... You know what I'm saying? No the reptilians haven't quite figured out emotion yet that's why they're just like okay they know that from time to time humanoids throw a smile out there they don't actually understand humor Very good observation. Yeah, in fact I was watching a bunch of hearings on the Cap and Trade and this Chinese woman would do that she's yakking away yacking away very serious and then just smile in the middle of it and go back to his serious mode I was what the hell with that laugh maybe Bill Gates does it constantly so Nancy Pelosi guaranteed Pelosi does too yeah is guaranteed reptilian

CHAPTER 16 / 28 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi on Health Care Mandates and Prison Penalties

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was questioned by a reporter regarding the fairness of jailing citizens who refuse to purchase health insurance. Pelosi defended the legislation, stating that everyone must do their part to cover the costs of uncompensated care. The hosts criticize the logic of spending $40,000 annually to imprison someone for failing to pay for health insurance.

nancy pelosi· health care bill· irs· individual mandate· prison· insurance

46:36 So she's being hounded by a reporter from I think local NBC affiliate and he saying, hey look you know the way i read the health care bill and by the way I have read the first version and I don't even have the new version yet. Where is the 1900 page version? I gotta go read through that one now You know, so there's all these little gotchas in there. Instead of something very basic like hey why doesn't the government just pay for all your crap and then kumbaya right? And we'll tax you and uh... and you'll have health insurance done that would be simple no there is all this stuff in their that is extremely nefarious and one of them of course is that to the IRS will collect your penalty fee if you do not have health insurance

47:22 uh... and uh... and it is now in there it is a tax so you know that you just cannot deny that this is the attacks and if you don't pay your tax i believe it is up to five years imprisonment and two hundred fifty thousand dollars in fines and so this uh... and these journalists are saying hey you know what do you think as speaker of the house that you actually have throw people in jail if they uh... if they don't want health coverage how do you kind of Justify that how does that work and it's just a wonderful piece of reptilian avoidance Have a listen to this. Oh Hold on a second I'm sorry, I forgot to Cue it up now. I've cued it up. I got to set up the sound link hold on It'll just take me a second there we go here We go now was totally queued up dude here comes oh

48:18 Madam Speaker, I'm Shomari Stone from Como 4 News. I have a question for you that hasn't been pointed out but... A lot of Americans feel this way Do you think it's fair to send people to jail for not buying health insurance? Well, the point is that we want to make sure everyone has access to health care. For a long time now people who haven't had healthcare or provided it have placed the burden on others. Everybody is paying the price for uncompensated care I don't need to tell you that in a hospital and so what this is to say we all have to do our part and that's the point of the bill But Madam Speaker, I'm just trying to understand

48:59 If you don't buy health insurance, you go to jail? You didn't answer my question. There is a... I think the legislation is very fair in this respect It gives people an opportunity. It's totally fair! Don't pay? Go to jail! ...to have health care, access to quality health care if they can afford it it provides subsidies for them to do so Yeah and that is the interesting part about the can't afford it... That's pretty subjective if you can afford or not yeah issue you know i'd like to get the do you think it's fair somebody says well i'm just not going to happen if i get sick then i'll just go to emergency room and send a bill uh... to you that's my view on this subject yet next yes and smile and sex question so she doesn't now all i guess i freeze the video as he sticking your tongue out total lizard lizard move when she gets is you get some uh... some clips of the times anyway the

49:58 so in other words what she's saying is that somebody who doesn't have health insurance and goes to the emergency room and it costs a couple grand uh... is uh... is bad but sending someone to prison which cost the taxpayers forty thousand dollars a year minimum yes thank you, is okay? That's a good use of public funds huh? Interesting I like the math hold on a second let me write this down how do we know your not reptilian john because they don't have inappropriate smiles. Yes no you that's right You have pretty much zero smiles. No, I smile all the time! I'm a happy guy How about Hillary Clinton? Do you think she's reptilian? Well she does inappropriate smiles She does doesn't she and I wish it could find the sound bite for this because she was in Manila and she's on a huge tour she's really rocking around with that inappropriate smile And um...she was answering questions about the Moro Islamic Liberation Front

CHAPTER 17 / 28 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and the MILF Acronym in Manila

During a town hall in Manila, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly used the acronym "MILF" when referring to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. The hosts mock the linguistic oversight and the awkwardness of the situation. They express a desire to find the original audio of the Secretary of State using the term.

hillary clinton· manila· milf· moro islamic liberation front· philippines

50:58 during a town hall style gathering in manila and of course there's an acronym for that and here is the quote which i wish had audio so yeah you know this is a good idea if anyone has it please send it to me out on top late over and over i'm encouraged by what i hear about the progress in the peace efforts that are going on between the government and mills just love i would just love to have the audio of that i looked all over She has no idea what she's saying and but then I guess someone leaned over went Madam Secretary And then she just started saying MILF What a tool imagine being Chelsea, oh geez. Oh my god. Oh my mom is such a dork Poor kid yeah alright so you want to switch gears here? Yeah Let's go to cap-and-trade

CHAPTER 18 / 28 Discussion

Kenneth Green Testifies Against Cap and Trade Legislation

Environmental scientist Kenneth Green of the American Enterprise Institute testified before a Senate committee, arguing that cap and trade is an inappropriate tool for controlling greenhouse gases. He stated that unlike sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide lacks the readily available capture technology needed for a trading model to work. Green warned the policy would cause significant economic harm without environmental benefits.

kenneth green· aei· cap and trade· co2· greenhouse gases· senate committee

51:57 I actually looked some cap and trade stuff up, some history of it. And when it was acid rain as you pointed out on a previous show, cap and trade actually was a pretty good idea and it was implemented at the time in this entire legislation is based on that premise of the acid rain from the 70's I would say But of course there was some real capping going on because you know, you put filters on your smokestacks And in fact this clip addresses exactly this issue Perfect set by coincidence. This is Kenneth Green who's with the American Enterprise Institute? And he kind of this is a long clip you're gonna have to interrupt a few times But it's so good and so concise even though It's long but actually, it's actually short considering what he what he deals with He introduces himself and then he starts getting into what a disaster cap-and-trade would be for the economy Miss Berrigan dr.. Green Excuse me

53:01 Chairman Baucus, Senator Grassley and members of the committee. Thank you for inviting me to testify today on this timely and important topic I am Kenneth Green a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute I'm an environmental scientist by training a policy analyst by avocation and economist by exposure I've submitted... I like that gotta put that in my card Yeah, it's by exposure to the record two AEI policy studies on the issues before us today which are part of the research base underlying what I'm about to say. I've spent the last 15 years analyzing public policy at think tanks in both the United States and Canada with an emphasis on air pollution climate change and energy policy specifically I have studied market-based mechanisms for dealing with pollution problems of all sorts and I've studied cap-and-trade as it has made its appearance in conventional air pollution control acid rain mitigation and now in greenhouse gas control well

53:50 What I can tell you based on my research is this. Cap and trade, the core of greenhouse gas control legislation today is an inappropriate policy tool for the control of greenhouse gases that will cause significant economic harm, will kill in export jobs and produce little or no environmental benefit Alright, he needs a coffee break. Quick take him out and go back! Let's get rid of that guy... Oh no what is he saying? They did not read the script dammit! Current legislation applies an emission trading model to unsuitable pollutant for emission trading work you need readily available technology to capture emissions or alternative sources energy that can let some people generate emissions surplus emissions they can be sold others

54:30 We had that with SO2, we don't have that with CO2. And there's a fantastic video by two San Francisco lawyers who have worked for the EPA for 20 years and they say exactly the same thing I'll put that in the show notes as well at noagendershow.com It is about...we do not have a solution it works when you have an actual way to solve the problem which of course this problem is not an actual problem but made up problem therefore there's no real solution other than made-up solutions With CO2, as EPA acknowledges we're dependent on offsets to control costs and offsets are notoriously slippery. Even the economists who first developed a theory in practice of cap-and-trade have said it's not a suitable mechanism for greenhouse gas control Earth First agrees and when you have that level of agreement from economists Earth First and people like myself at AEI You're talking serious consensus Cap-and-Trade hasn't worked in Europe And will not work here

CHAPTER 19 / 28 Discussion

Energy Price Increases and Canadian Oil Dependence

The hosts discuss how cap and trade legislation is designed to intentionally increase energy prices, a goal previously acknowledged by President Obama. Kenneth Green's testimony highlighted that low carbon fuel standards could prohibit oil imports from Canada, the United States' largest foreign supplier. The discussion notes the irony of targeting Canadian oil while claiming to seek energy independence.

barack obama· canada· oil imports· energy prices· alberta· trade war

55:25 By design and despite provisions that try to hide this from the public the carbon control bills now circulating will increase energy prices That's what they're for. In fact, that's been stated publicly right John we've talked about that in the end it would send me in the back door he said is not only even president obama said and we have a sound clip somewhere you said well you know it's basically gonna gonna send electricity prices sky-high animal bankrupt some utility companies he said that publicly remember that all find it for ya this is this is no secret is just Let's be honest, Balloon Boy is a lot more compelling.

56:22 As energy prices rise and as American companies find themselves less competitive, businesses and jobs will flow to countries without greenhouse gas controls and with stringent environmental controls. Which is exactly the way it's set up! The whole cap-and-trade system is not only do we let developing nations and other countries just go ahead and poop out whatever they want to... We actually pay them!! We're going to send them money. Hey, good job! We're gonna pay the money for that and we are going to send them our technology as well This is all what's coming down in Copenhagen this is the global law we are going to...the treaty were going to sign of any kind without stringent controls potentially allowing emissions to increase The remedy to this border tax adjustments is only likely cause a trade war further damaging the US economy

57:06 As increased energy costs raise the price of U.S. goods and services, consumption will decline causing still more job losses across the American economy Legislation now before Congress will cause regional and sectoral winners and losers Will unjustly redistribute and export wealth from industrial coal-powered states to states with greater hydro-, nuclear- and natural gas resources It will send taxpayer dollars abroad to countries that are economic competitors and sometimes geopolitical adversaries Firstly, low carbon fuel standards might actually prohibit oil imports from our number one foreign supplier that are neighbor to the North Canada. Yes! Thank you he finally says it could we please hear that one more time I said this last night

57:47 I was on thin ice. I was really holding back with my family, I love my family so much Are they a bunch of left-wingers? No actually it's... well of course Uncle Don he worked for Bush Sr., I mean he was a registered Republican He actually registered Democrat! He has changed So yeah, but I said you know FYI when President Obama says we need to stop our dependence on foreign oil. I'm always thinking hey Canada how are you feeling? No one seems to realize that 80% of all isn't it eighty percent It's a huge number. Yeah, can't we get off of Alberta? It comes from Canada so thank you oh my god I wish people would actually listen to this kind of stuff

CHAPTER 20 / 28 Discussion

Carbon Bubbles and the Economic Impact of Biofuels

Kenneth Green warned that cap and trade creates a new financial instrument that could lead to a "carbon bubble" similar to the housing crisis. He also argued that carbon controls favor biofuels, which could lead to the displacement of natural forests by 2065. Green dismissed the promise of "green jobs," asserting that government policy merely shifts jobs with a net loss to the economy.

carbon bubble· derivatives· biofuels· deforestation· kenneth green· green jobs

58:30 We need 400 million people listening John, not 400 thousand. Terribly. Firstly low carbon fuel standards might actually prohibit oil imports from our number one foreign supplier that are neighbor to the north Canada Yeah those damn bastards we've got a stop our dependence on them Cap and trade creates a new poorly understood financial instrument that can be used to leverage debt Potentially creating a massive carbon bubble that bursts once it becomes clear. I can't afford to maintain the regime Oh Beautiful exactly what we've said here, it's a new derivative It'll be a new way to create debt which is how money is created in the financial system Which is beautiful these guys are chomping at the bit they can't wait what else can we do now? We've already done houses. We've screwed that up

59:12 Oh, I know. Air! This is a good one. The air we breathe. Let's make money off of air! Fantastic! Finally cap and trade and all carbon control for that matter puts a bounty on ecosystems as carbon control favors biofuels more ecosystem will be planted over and farmland used to grow fuel instead of food A recent article in Science observes that attempting to limit CO2 concentrations to 450 parts per million, the currently stated goal of carbon controls would cause bioenergy crops to expand and displace virtually all of the world's natural forests and savannas by 2065. And actually increase global greenhouse gas emissions." Now see this is where the guy loses it because I'm like 2065? I don't give a crap!

59:55 Well I know, but all the people that are pushing the global warming agenda keep pushing everything out to 2100. So i don't think it's unrealistic to throw this in their face As for the claim that the green energy provisions of current legislation will create green jobs, that can't be exported. This is simply not true as I testified before another Senate committee governments do not create jobs they simply move them from one place to the other inevitably with a net loss of jobs on less jobs on net. Hey who is this guy again John? This is Kenneth Green and by the way I love his last name. Yeah, nothing subtle there. You know if i can make a recommendation he should not climb the stairs at the UN building in Vienna this would be very bad place for him to be he might slip and fall down 17 stories Economists have known this for over 150 years

1:00:51 Europe has seen much of its industry green industry exported in the US is already seeing solar cell and windmill production being moved to China The only thing worse than no energy policy is bad energy policy. And that's what S1733 and approaches like it represent, bad energy policy wrapped up in misleading terminology that hides the true nature of the legislation Thank you for allowing me to speak to you today on this timely an important issue I look forward to your questions Yeah nice knowing ya Nice knowing ya Professor Green Nice knowing ya bud Wow, yeah that's really good. That's really good but you have to distill that down into one sound bite for the general populace to get it. Oh yeah no one wants to listen to a four minute speed up. No oh no and we should've interrupted that with commercials at least twice according to your formula

CHAPTER 21 / 28 Discussion

Al Gore and the Global Oil Trading Scam

Al Gore is identified as an investor in a massive cap-and-trade fund, benefiting from the market exchanges he helped catalyze. The hosts describe the Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) as a "dark pool" owned by major banks like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to trade oil futures. They characterize the system as a circular trading scam designed to artificially inflate oil prices.

al gore· goldman sachs· ice· oil futures· dark pool· commodities

1:01:37 Yeah, no. Right? No. We got two commercials would have been in there too. So here's the scam I just gotta say it one more time Al Gore who of course really was the catalyst for a lot of this first global warming now climate change which of course is actually a political joke because you know we're moving into one world government that's the actual climate change the climate up the worlds political scene He is owner and investor of a five billion dollar fund in the largest cap-and-trade system on earth. And when you own the Nasdaq or when you own the exchanges, that's where the real money is!

1:02:13 You own the market and this guy is so right. It's all about it going to be sold as a derivative and then you can start to hedge against it, you can hedge against anything! And this is going to be huge and I think its just gonna pass John, it's just gonna flow right through and people will be too afraid to really go against them they don't understand that they want to be seen as unpopular because they're against saving the world Meanwhile, oil is up to 80 bucks. That kind of slipped up there and there was a great article on seekingalpha.com that says the global oil scam is actually 2.5 trillion dollars I did not realize that the ICE, that's the online commodities and futures exchange another one these exchanges where basically oil futures are traded

1:03:07 uh... that that is a what i saw called dark pool so it's an unregulated exchange you know if they're trying to crack down on these but this seems that we're not doing a very good job well the guy who uses his day greenberger and i have to figure out what happened in him and he was the biggest complainer and soros was also complaining about this and both of them had been squelched for some reason i think somebody just said here would go how big a check do you want to write yeah or did look at this yes look at this dude see this? hey, sunny boy so this is the intercontinental exchange which is founded owned and operated by goldman sachs morgan stanley british petroleum total shell deutsche bank and societes general so it's like you know these guys they're just they got a little uh... they're like trading marbles amongst themselves

1:04:03 it's a lot of marbles that's a beautiful game and so the way it works is one one of these guys will get some goldman or go like hey man give me uh... hundred thousand barrels of oil and morgan will sell it to him but then you know morgan will install off to be pnb peel cellar back to golden sacks of the base we just take it and by the way this had been during the dot com bubble this was a very well-known scam you'd hire uh... marketing consultant who would be paid in warrants i.e that's not really options is not really stock and he get a bunch of his friends and they just kind of sell the stock back because they trust each other they sell it in the circle right so did he do he tell it to guide bbc c back today

CHAPTER 22 / 28 Discussion

Margot Thorning on GDP Decline and Job Losses

Margot Thorning of the American Council for Capital Formation testified that the Waxman-Markey bill would reduce U.S. GDP by up to 2.4% by 2030. Using the government's own macroeconomic models, she predicted a loss of up to 2.4 million jobs and a $1,200 decrease in annual household income. The hosts lament that the media ignores these technical hearings in favor of sensational stories.

margot thorning· accf· waxman-markey· gdp· job growth· c-span

1:04:48 And while doing that, the price just keeps rising because what you really need on any type of exchange is liquidity. Meaning there's stuff moving! That's how supply and demand... The illusion of supply and demand is created so that's how they're ticking up the price of oil futures just by moving it around amongst themselves. Maybe its not just selling the oil back maybe there are some pork bellies that come back in the backend It's all one big game and once again we're not in it This is a fact. So we got one more, shorter clip. This is another woman testifying before the same committee on the cap and trade who I kind of cut most... she's a little more boring but she made a couple different points that because she was a... She had a lot of metrics as opposed to generalities and it was kinda interesting so you might want play the last clip. Input output models which some organizations... And what was this? Was this C-SPAN that you were watching?

1:05:48 Yeah, yeah C-SPAN. This woman is with the uh... she's name is Margot Thorning and she's with the American Council for Capital Formation You know there are so many of these organizations out there I'm surprised Think tanks? Yeah they're think tanks So was she.. don't even tell me I'll listen to it Jews are static models They're not able to capture the dynamic impacts Of changes in energy prices. I'd like to share with you briefly the results of a study that the ACCF and the National Association of Manufacturers sponsored examining the impact of the Waxman-Markey bill. We used a macroeconomic model, the same model that the Department of Energy uses, the NIMS

1:06:30 Our study showed that for the US as a whole, by 2030 the Waxman-Markey bill would reduce gross domestic product relative to the baseline forecast between 1.7% and 2.4%. You know so this is... it kills me because here.. So first of all she used the exact same model as the government used and of course you know lies lot damn lies in statistics And what she's saying is, hey you know... What she should say is You're gonna get screwed people! You're going to get totally screwed But instead she went... Well that's what these meetings are supposed to be like and it's up to the media

1:07:13 yeah i don't like journalists and stuff just to take a look at what she says and then then reported in a way that the public can understand how much is it that even go to these meetings they don't even turn on c-span because it home in this money Petting their Obama chia. 2.4% of GDP may not sound like much, but it's about $600 billion dollars that is what we are paying social security recipients right now. Job growth would be slowed. We did show that we'd pick up new green jobs certainly will because the provisions in the Waxman-Markey bill but on balance we lose between 1.7 and 2.4 million jobs in 2030

1:07:55 Household income is about $1,200 less than it otherwise would be. Some of the input output studies that are out there show job growth but again as they admit as the Center for American Progress study admits they're not dynamic They're not able to capture the impact of higher energy prices on US economy Does NPR go to these meetings? Do they have C-SPAN in the office I doubt it. Does NPR have seen any time? They've probably seen it as a competitor. It certainly is boring! Well, it's definitely... You gotta move there! The boredom factor is like the toss-up between these two

1:08:33 But the fact of the matter is what she's doing is she taking a look at things from a mathematical perspective. Yes, from the numbers! She's getting the actual numbers and running this exact same test and saying huh? Huh? This sucks is what you know determining And this is the kind of thing that we try to do on this show but I don't understand why everybody's not doing this Because no one cares. I mean they got the bubble Bob the guy in the balloon, they got the other crap So I was in the cab in New York and they have that you know god-awful ABC News produced Cab news thing whatever it is Oh that oh my god II turn that thing off well III forced myself to

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Balloon Boy Media Coverage and Podcast Award Nominations

The hosts criticize the media's obsession with the "Balloon Boy" Heene family and the suggestion by news anchors that the parents should lose custody of their children. Amidst this media landscape, the No Agenda show has been nominated for two Podcast Awards, including the People's Choice Award. Adam Curry credits the show's success to its deconstruction of mainstream news.

balloon boy· heene family· podcast awards· media criticism· reality tv

1:09:16 and uh... so they had a report on the balloon boy of family and of course you know another copying to some of your some of the allegations that they actually did lie in there were just trying to hype up for the reality show whatever andy and they cut back to the anchors and then the anchorman says and the worst thing is they get to keep their kids like what What? You would rather put children in the system than leave them with it. I mean, okay so their parents messed up you know they tried to try to make a buck but like the worst thing is they get to keep the kids well why don't you take the kids you douche! It was unbelievable unbelievable

1:09:58 But yeah, you're right John. There's no one doing this apparently which is why this program is nominated for not one but two podcast awards very proud of the People's Choice Award and of course in the general category which I hear it's going to be a hot one at the Oscars this year uh... it is because we do bring you this news we spend the time in he and when we split up you know i dot was busy with a family i was trying to hook us up with one of the one of these terrorists of the world on trying to get us in uh... and were actually going influence public policy in north in north korea by sending fantastic dvds with hidden messages subliminal cut his message to change on hill

CHAPTER 24 / 28 Discussion

Value-for-Value Funding Model and Listener Donation Requests

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the "Value-for-Value" model, noting a recent decline in donations despite positive listener feedback. They emphasize that the show's ability to produce three episodes per week depends entirely on financial support from the audience. Listeners are encouraged to contribute via PayPal or the show's website to keep the program commercial-free.

donations· value-for-value· paypal· itunes· podcasting· funding

1:10:40 and john on the other hand is is forcing himself to watch c-span and the only way we can continue to do this is with your support yes and we didn't get much less after the last show I might add and I'm trying to deconstruct a reason why everyone I got message best show ever loved it fantastic you guys are on a roll and what do we get bupkis We didn't get much. We got four donors that gave over 50 bucks and the highest was obviously Stephen Shearer, our executive producer for 90. The other ones are Jordan Wyatt who's our in-house vegan who gives us money every so often. He's giving it... Vegan in residence John? Yeah

1:11:18 he's a he sees six and fifty in from southland new zealand in in uh... honor of oatmeal are that's very uh... oatmeal of course crash dead pigeon yes no no the the pigeon who is no longer with us norman lorraine edmonton gave its fifty and james briscoe was given as money before so you know in his side he's to be said we have to put something called police knots which is someone or what it is a decade since It's some new show or something. Police Knots, okay? And his donation was $55 and 30 cents which had something to do with it and he is in Bayshore New York and that was it! That's all we got so people out there who have not contributed... That's demoralizing! We're never going to do three shows a week at this rate because every time we do well Yeah then maybe we get nothing

1:12:13 Right. So essentially we can't do well, which means we can't do three shows a week so it's a... It's a conundrum! We have to suck in order to be able to do three shows a week I don't get you guys if every single one of our listeners gave us five dollars a year forget about the $5 a month plan five dollars a year we would be set we could do it all day long we could be deconstructing watching C-SPAN having no life and then we have to... yeah, I'm actually kind of thankful. So anyway the uh... We don't need any notes from people who say we suck! No no because we know we suck when the donations are rolling in okay you don't have to tell us we know when we really suck cause then things are actually going well

1:13:00 So go to noagendashow.com and .org slash NA, and help us out because we didn't get much of this last round now that said I heard that the iTunes feed was screwed up somewhere again? No i don't think it's screwed up, no I think its working People make sure to report to us when you have problems getting the show yeah so we can ignore it perfect uh... no agendashow dot com or dvorak dot org slash na And if you feel like it, just empty your PayPal account. You're not using it anyway. Just send whatever's left. Yeah I didn't notice anybody emptying their PayPal account this week. Hey John and Adam, it's Richard Lazor. I'm a starving college student at the University of Arkansas we have the world's leading RFID lab and are taught that RFID is awesome!

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Associate Producer Credits for Small Donors and Students

In response to a letter from a student at the University of Arkansas, the hosts agree to allow regular small donors to list themselves as "Associate Producers" on their resumes. They discuss the flexibility of modern credentials, with Dvorak mentioning that schools like Evergreen State College often vouch for various student claims. The hosts offer to vouch for listeners who use the producer title professionally.

associate producer· resume· rfid· university of arkansas· evergreen state college

1:13:49 I agree that RFID is great for tracking inventory and raw materials, however i'm completely against the use of RFID in passports and humans. People are just not inventory. Now I have a question about producer spots. I can't afford to donate but email you guys regularly. Can we still use no agenda on our resumes? Maybe just as producers might be interesting thought to bring up." And I was thinking Then maybe we should do something, because there are a lot of people who continue to donate smaller amounts who were on the No Agenda Night layaway program and perhaps just on the $5 month subscription. We probably should do something John so that they can still put it on their resume as like an associate producer. There should be some credit we can give. Yeah, associate producers fine I think that would be good yeah let's go with that

1:14:41 Okay, yeah. So you're now allowed to use yourself as an associate producer to give yourself that credit and if you need us to vouch just drop us an email we'll take care of it And we don't have a problem with this and by the way my son was talking about You know he graduated from Evergreen which is like the top school in the country It's one of the more interesting schools. He says that once you get your degree, he says they'll vouch for just about anything you tell them to vouch for. Really? Which is kind of our policy. So if you wanted... For example, if you wanted a job as an environmental consultant with the EPA, you could just say my specialty at Evergreen was environmental consulting

1:15:24 Oh really? I love it. And when they send a note in, the Evergreen guys just sign off on it. Okay! So Craig Dee in the chat room says... Hey buddy we actually need the money Actually need the money So I think that we're supposed to, according to that communist people are supposed to just give away everything because there's somebody else that is more needy. Like what? Like PBS? We should go play that clip again! Oh sure let's play the PBS clip of how they take these donations or underwriters... Okay move it on to money This by the way is the chairwoman of NPR The station that is not supposed..the network that is not supposed to be influenced at all

CHAPTER 26 / 28 Discussion

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Trial and the Disappearance of Bin Laden

The federal government plans to move Khalid Sheikh Mohammed from Guantanamo Bay to New York City for trial. Adam Curry points out that recent media photos of Mohammed show him groomed to look remarkably like Osama bin Laden. The hosts suggest this is a "bait and switch" tactic to distract the public from the failure to capture Bin Laden himself.

khalid sheikh mohammed· osama bin laden· gitmo· new york city· 9/11· financial times

1:16:13 all by outside sources, particularly not those giving money to them. How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession? And what about foundation grants? Two different stories. Underwriting is down for everybody. This is the area that is most down for us. Sponsorship, underwriting, advertising... call it whatever you want Sponsorship, underwriting, advertising. Call it whatever you want how about we call it Crooked Let me try that one on ya crooked so I'm reading Actually, I didn't have to read it I'm looking at the Financial Times weekend edition which is the only newspaper actually buy because I think they're kind of well You know what the CIA reads this thing So I'm like alright these you know This is where they get their info from my we might as well get it from there as well. So here's the new meme

1:17:10 They put on the front page, and I wish you had a copy to show you John. Khaled Sheikh Mohammed. Now there's a big brouhaha here on the east coast of Gitmo Nation that they are bringing the terrorists behind the September 11 attacks 2001 to New York to be tried of course they need to get them out of Gitmo Guantanamo Bay in order to close the base with it which was a President Obama's first promise, he won't be able to keep it by the end of year but they will eventually. So they want to bring this guy to New York to try him in New York and we're all up in arms about it but this is of course really just distract your attention from the fact

1:17:51 that the guy who was supposed to be behind it is Osama Bin Laden and when you look at this picture so you've probably seen the picture of like uh... the capture picture of uh... Khaled Sheikh Mohammed where he's in like a torn T-shirt, he's all sweaty. Yeah, underwear shot So this is a shot of him in full garb with his full beard nicely groomed He looks exactly like Osama bin Laden In fact if I take this out on the street and say who is this Anyone will say, oh that's Osama. In fact I'm going to do that! I am going take a camera and take this on the street and say who is this picture of? People will say Oh it is Osama Bin Laden but its not It says right in the caption right underneath Khaled Sheikh Mohammed accused being behind terrorist attacks September 11th 2001 What happened to Osama bin Laden?! I don't get it because we couldn't find him because we have 200 thousand troops in Afghanistan couldn't smoke the guy out his cave now we have to blame it on this guy now he's gonna be the guy

1:18:49 This is a total scam. That's pretty good It's shocking because I picked up the paper like hey Osama bin Laden on the front and like no wait a minute that it's Khalid Sheikh Mohammed only this is his high school yearbook picture, and he looks really nice And you know, and you look at the guy. Oh my god! So they've just switched it It's like... Don't think about Osama Bin Laden No no no! Nothing to see here! Look over here! Nothing to see here! Oohh! Look at that! So uh.. You're being scammed But it's working! Oh boy its working America wake up! Yeah America I got tha- We gotta pull back clip

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Large Hadron Collider and South American Power Outages

A massive power outage in South America affecting 70 million people is linked by the hosts to the activation of the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland. They theorize that the collider's magnets create gravitational waves that interact with the Earth's silicon-rich crust. While official reports blamed a bird or a baguette for a machine shutdown, the hosts remain skeptical of the official explanation.

large hadron collider· cern· south america· power outage· silicon· magnetism

1:19:33 Yeah, I know. And then I have been predicting this would happen...I've been telling you that this was bad news no one wanted to listen to me! I told you this large Hadron Collider up there in Switzerland and said it's a bad idea you don't be want trying to recreate the Big Bang is not a good idea to be thrown protons around at the speed of light This is NOT a good idea so what happens? They shot off a gravitational wave, also known as the time wave. Because they fired this thing up on November 1st of course that was not in the news because they don't actually want you to know what's going on with this billion dollar project and it blew out all the lights in South America I don't know if you caught that but seriously 70 million people were without power

1:20:26 And the way it works, John is fascinating. I'm really studying all this. Well before you say that... You know what the word is on that power outage right? No! I know what happened but go ahead Oh yeah there was a storm. No no I heard a different story. Oh here hold on I've got the... Super hackers. Super what?! super hackers so that will be a tactic red down there and they're just showing off it's like a in there are sure some of you know i'm group i'm looking at the afp report also false press though the french though we already know that he won't take this shot yet so they said that they say uh...

1:21:05 atmospheric storm atmospheric discharges very strong wind and rain so apparently the grid can handle wind and rain in South America yeah because it never rains down there. So first of all we know there's a lot of weird stuff going on with the polar magnetism, the magnetism of the poles changing and planes are going down in the southern hemisphere of course air buses mainly because they're so over automated But what is happening is you have these gateways to the sun. In fact, there's a couple of very famous ones in South America mainly Chile, Bolivia, Paraguay Brazil Argentina

1:21:51 And these things react to certain types of gravitational waves, which of course when you're flinging magnets around at the speed of light. You can only imagine that maybe you create some kind of gravitational pull and it's basically shocking the earth! The earth being made one of the most common... people don't know this... listen to me now One of the most common substances on Earth is silicon right? Would you agree? It's a lot of it, yeah. It's called sand. Yeah, sand, silicon... there is like 25% of the Earth's crust is made of silicon! It's highly conductive Okay, so and you in fact we're using it. You're listening on see you're listening to sand okay? We're pounding sand right now It's all sand based and when use it when you're under the earth's crust And you're putting gravitational shit into sand it has absolute effects So they had to shut the thing down because it started to overheat They said oh a bird pooped in the machine literally that's the report

1:22:49 a bird pooped on some piece of the machine so we had to shut it down. No, he dropped a baguette supposedly. Well meanwhile 70 million people without electricity I'm telling you this is the Large Hadron Collider it's bad news It should not be allowed to operate and I am against it Well, for one thing silicon is not conductive. A. Which is kind of... What do you mean? Of course it's conductive! Oh yeah sure. That's why it uses this as the basis for semiconductor products which have like circuits going on but if it was conductive we would just short out doesn't make any sense okay so let's just go with how is that conductive you stick up You need to read upon Tesla my friend you need to really understand how the earth crust works This is all total crackpot stuff

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Show Outro and Final Funding Plea from Armonk

Adam Curry concludes the broadcast from his hotel room in Armonk as he is asked to check out by staff. The hosts remind listeners to visit the website to support the show before the next episode on Thursday. They sign off with their traditional credits from upstate New York and Silicon Valley.

armonk· la quinta· adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· sign-off

1:23:33 Now that's sad. Okay, okay fine! Hey John, John! What's that? Hey John, John look over here So uh... You go ahead call it crackpot stuff Let me put it this way That's the... They want me to get out of the room Hold on Yeah we're checking out in a few minutes Thank you I thought this was one your sound effects Crackpot calling the kettle black We gotta go

1:24:12 The show has got to end I'm being kicked out of the room. We have a time it's 12 o'clock over here I gotta stop yeah, I'm gonna play that I will play the tension what no? You know I gotta go It's the end of the show. We'll continue this discussion next week Yeah, we'll talk about it on Thursday We definitely have stuff to talk about and I suggest you do some research John on how Silicon is used Because just because your a tech journalist doesn't mean you know everything. I don't know anything But it would help if we had more money So please go to noagenttheshow.com and give us a hand yeah that would actually be very very helpful

1:24:58 So coming to you from the short stay La Quinta crackpot command center in upstate New York and Armonk Where we're being kicked out under eminent domain of removal of our physical bodies I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is shining. I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back with you, and will bring you another jam-packed hour and a half of entertainment uninterrupted by commercials if You give us some money on Thursday on no agenda so