Future Framework

00:00 Get back in your hole! Denouncing democracy and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's now official, kind of, Gavin Newsom for president. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Okay, I'll say it right off the bat everybody, yes indeed, things sound different. We're working on it. It's a new box.

00:39 Adam's got his new box. Yes. I have I have a new box Let me tell you I have to dial the sound in but they nailed it these guys nailed it in what way? What did they okay? Let's go. This is this is these guys these guys these guys is road They're from Australia. Yes, and they previously came out with the Roadcaster Pro which I of course universally pan because they did everything wrong and It was more a box for gamers than for podcasters. Yeah, like the many Chinese boxes that are sold on Amazon for very little money. And I think you and I deconstructed that they were using the same chips as everybody else, all these other boxes that were coming out. Same thing, you know, they all have these, what do you call them? Loopback devices instead of a proper busing system. For those who are interested, loopback devices, it just made no sense.

01:39 So they announced the Roadcaster Pro 2, and this was the one that was going to do everything. And I cannot... Design-wise, you know, I wouldn't have done these damn pads the way they do them, but the configurability and all of the pieces in this is exactly what I would have built. In fact, they solve several of the problems. that we came across the same way we did, we did it eight years ago, and nailed it. This is a great device. Okay, I'm surprised that you liked it so much. Well, I don't like the sound yet. No, the sound's not as good. Oh, but that's...

02:26 But your sound is hand tweaked. Yeah, and it's... This is a sound from a box. Well, I've been tweaking this for days now. I mean, you have no idea how it sounds coming out of the box. It's horrible coming out of the box. It's terrible? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, it's completely, you know, like... I mean, it's almost like a... The problem is, aren't most people going to just buy this, plug it in and start podcasting? It's going to... Well, they have a special wizard with, you know, you can put more, what do they call it, depth, you can put more sparkle and more punchiness. Sparkle? Sparkle, yes. I want to put some sparkle in my life. I think I'll put a little more sparkle in it. But it includes the official big bottom, the aural exciter. You know, these are... It's got an aphex? Yeah, yeah, it's got the aphex stuff in there. Let's just make it sound decent. Well, yeah, but here's the issue.

03:23 configuring an audio device and doing it on headphones Maybe this is an analogy. It's like going to a wine tasting, except you can't really cleanse your palate each time. You can't cleanse out your ears when you're going to go to, you know, it's like I just spit that sound out. So it's very hard in a certain point, your ears are shot and then you come in and you think, oh, this is great. You come in the next morning like this morning and I flip it on. I'm like, oh my God, how could I have thought this was any good? It's a problem. It's a problem our senses have. His sense is working overtime. So I think we'll get there. I'm uh... I'm pleased... I love your enthusiasm. I said if you say so, how much more... Wow Adam, I hope so! Yes! Yes! Exactly! Holy... This is great! I'm so happy that after all these years someone finally made something that you're happy with and I know you'll be able to dial it in and make the show sound good again.

04:29 That's all I needed from you. If I was like that, the show would be dead. Yes, correct. And before we start off, a couple of things. One. Thank you again, all you producers who support this program. We're coming up on 15 years. The stuff we do, the stuff we are able to say, the things we can deconstruct without being deplatformed, without being thrown away, cast aside. Cast aside. Kiss to the curb. Yes, all that kind of stuff. It's all because you have followed the value for value model. You've trusted it. You've helped. You've become producers.

05:07 And I sometimes I just wake up and then before I hear the shitty sound in my studio, I write it down. It's like, I got to thank everybody. I love this. I love my job. Two, we are in desperate need of a rain stick here in Texas. Like it's getting bad now. And I would like to request a session. You're the one that's to kind of condemn the whole idea, but... Well, no, no, no. Now it's necessary. Now it's time and now it's... See, usually I'm kind of against it. It's not going to bother me. We're not going to get any rain here anyway. So sure. Well, what I'd like you to do is I'd like you to point it northeast-southwest, if that's okay. Sure. And I'll do... Because I want to cross the stream, so I'll go direction northwest.

06:00 Southeast, so yeah, so we'll cross the streams. We flip the switch here so it's on high. Alright, hold on. Yours has a switch? This is high-low. Oh, okay. I guess mine is just one of those permanently on high. Alright, one flip. One flip, okay, ready? Yes, three, two, one, and... No! No! How many times do I tell you, you can't be shaking it at the end. That disturbs the frequency. I have never used it without shaking it. Oh, goodness. It doesn't make a difference. Goodness. I know that we have a lot of international listeners of The Best Podcast in the Universe, so I want to explain a few things up front. They will return during the program. The way America's constitutional republic works. So first of all, when you hear

06:56 This is a threat to our democracy. No matter what context it is in, it is not a threat to the United States because the United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. And that means that we have a constitution and our constitution is meant for one thing and one thing only. to determine what the federal government is not allowed to do. Or I should say, the government in general. So when you hear abortion rights, women's rights, gay rights, trans rights, gun rights, there's no such thing. These are, according to our Constitution, these are God-given, and the only reason this document exists is not to give us these rights, but to protect us from the government rolling over them.

07:45 So, with that in mind, when it comes... Yeah, you just blew out half of the circuits in Europe with a simple explanation. I was like, what? What? That makes no sense. Did I miss anything there or I think that was kind of spot on, right? No, that was pretty damn good. A more civics teacher should be able to say that. Well, yes, and most people in America don't know this. So when you see kids and... Because they're Democrats. Well, that's not entirely true because there's also a lot of pro-lifers demonstrating and I don't think they understand it either.

08:26 Yeah, probably not. So the way it works is the way it should in our federation. We're a United States, we have a federated system. It's supposed to be different. There's no way you can have people in Texas are just not the same as people in California, although that's kind of evening out with the influx. They're not the same as people in New York. Thank you, California. Yeah. By the way, our plan worked out. Even, yeah. I guess now we're moving people to Chattanooga. Yeah, but it... I'm just trying to say that states have, and this even in Europe, in the Netherlands abortion is allowed up to 24, I think it's 26 but most keep it at 24 and that is when by the Dutch law that is viability outside of the uterus. In Germany it's 12 weeks so it's not the same universally and it will never and it shouldn't be the same universally and you know this whole idea of

09:27 you know, just women getting screwed and their rights taken away and, you know, we've kind of forgotten even that there are people besides women can get pregnant. You know, that went out the window real quick. I don't hear any men's rights when it comes to pregnancy and abortion, even though it should be. So, you know, when you hear... Let me see, where's the... This is a little mini supercut. Oh, actually, here we go. This is Tom Woods. And he kind of explains a little bit about the Supreme Court because there's also, you know, when you hear a politician saying the radical, crazy Republican Supreme Court and the Supreme Court is the law of the land and the Supreme Court this and the Supreme Court that, that's also not entirely true. The Supreme Court is part of the government. It's not outside of the government. It's one of the three branches of government.

10:25 And the one thing they cannot do is make laws. So when I hear on television, yesterday, I wish I was able to clip it, I was in the car. CNN news model saying this is now law of the land. I'm like no, no, that's no such thing. There is no law. It can be a state's law, but it's not law of the land that's not universal. So there's something called concurrent review. This is 20 years old. My buddy Dave Jones dug this clip up of Tom Woods. One of the points that's consistently made in what we've just looked at and in the discussion of nullification is

11:01 is the idea that there is no common judge that can adjudicate disputes between the states and the federal government. And to say that the Supreme Court is a common judge is to miss the point entirely. Because as Jefferson would say, the Supreme Court is part of the federal government. These people get their salaries from the federal government, they're in the pay of the federal government. That can't be an impartial arbiter in a dispute between the states and the federal government. It would be rendering judgment in a case to which it itself is a party. So in no way can that be considered legitimate. Jefferson had made this point all along. You can pursue this in

11:47 There's a book from the early 90s by Quirk and Bridwell, called Judicial Dictatorship, published by Transaction. They point out, as obviously many authors written on Jefferson's thought have pointed out, Jefferson does not believe in judicial review. He doesn't believe the Supreme Court ought to have a monopolistic privilege on interpreting the Constitution because then that simply means that they're running the country. Because if they get to interpret it and they have the final authoritative word, well then, if they get to say what the Constitution means, then they're running the country and it's very dangerous to entrust so few people with that type of power, so he doesn't like that. He believes in something called concurrent review.

12:32 whereby all three branches of the federal government have a responsibility to maintain constitutionality. So that even if the Supreme Court upholds something, but the President believes it's unconstitutional, he doesn't have to bow down before the Supreme Court and say, well I guess I have to just get rid of my scruples about this. The Supreme Court upheld it. He has a responsibility not to sign it. Likewise, the Congress should not pass something they believe to be unconstitutional. So that was Jefferson's take. He does not believe there is a common judge ruling over that can adjudicate disputes between the states and the federal government. The Supreme Court does not count.

13:11 It would be as if we said, I'm having a dispute with you. How are we going to resolve it? And I said, well, you know, my brother Sal will adjudicate it. I mean, like you wouldn't agree to that because obviously Sal is going to have a difficult time being impartial. And in such cases, more and more the federal government will rule in favor of itself. I also don't think Americans understand this really well. Hello? Yeah. I mean it's just not understood and the more I see people on television, the more I understand that they've just had no civics education. They think that we're some kind of Europe. It's really odd. Yeah, people like to believe that for years. Here's the sad news models mini-cut. Stand by Jeffrey, we do have breaking news just in to CNN.

14:07 Give me just a moment of personal care. Sorry, I'm getting, you know, watching the women there. It's emotional. You know, what? This is as devastating a ruling as can be imagined. It's a very dark day in America. There really is a lot of people who believe this is a rigged court. We are looking at a sort of a constitutional, legal, I don't want to use the word civil war. This is going to be a legal civil war. It's going to be legal chaos. We're sort of entering the legal wild west. Yeah, I don't think so at all. I don't think there's gonna be any civil war over this. Well first of all, let's go over a couple of

14:48 But before we do that, can we play a background? Because I think some of you are listening, what the hell are we talking about? Really? I mean, this is huge news all over the world. Everyone's using it to make Trump look dumb. Yeah, I know. But I think we still have to... If somebody listens to the show 10 years from now, they will... We have to do an establishment cut. And so I think at least let's do Roe update on NPR. The place you always got to go, it's the will. Some states have already begun implementing bans as the ruling has triggered abortion bans that take place immediately. Others are moving in a different direction. Minnesota's governor signed an executive order to help shield people seeking or providing abortions in his state. Okay.

15:32 Well, that sucked. That was hardly an establishment clip. No, is that the one you meant? I mean, I have an establishment clip. I really do. Well, play an establishment clip so we can talk about the whole thing. And I have some irksome thoughts. OK, here's, we'll go to my well, Nora O'Donnell. Ladies and gentlemen, CBS Evening News. This is CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnell reporting tonight from the Supreme Court. Good evening and thank you for joining us on this Friday night on a day that changed America. We're outside the Supreme Court after the landmark decision that overturned Roe vs. Wade and ended a woman's constitutional right to an abortion. As you can see behind me, demonstrators both for and against the court's decision were quick to react here in Washington and a

16:24 Across the country, more than 100 cities have already seen protests or planned to over the weekend. Also reacting, some of the nation's largest companies announcing they will cover employee travel expenses for abortions if they are not available where they live. Some of those companies include Nike, Uber, Alaska Airlines, Citigroup, Conde Nast, Disney, JP Morgan, Microsoft, Warner Brothers, and CBS' parent company, Paramount Global. And we also heard from presidents past and present. President Obama called the ruling devastating. Michelle Obama called it horrifying. And President Donald Trump said this gives the rights back to the states as it should have been long ago. Okay, there we go.

17:08 Now that's a backgrounder. Thank you. That's a backgrounder. So the people who are, the women who are protesting, and men who are protesting this, are generally from states where abortion has long since been legalized. Yes. And in fact, in many cases, like Oregon for example, you can pretty much give birth and as long as the baby is hooked to an umbilical cord, you can club it to death on the spot. Woohoo! There's about seven states with those laws, but the West Coast, Oregon, Washington, California, extremely liberal. New York, extremely liberal. All abortion is legal. So why are you complaining? You look at the states where it's not going to be legal because it's going to be made illegal, or states like Utah.

17:54 So are we're supposed to tell Utah, which is kind of a quasi-religious state... Get a drink, John. Clear your thought out for a second. We're supposed to tell you... Yeah, I heard my tea. Yes, a nice cup of tea. Is that a No Agenda Tea Club? No Agenda Tea Club by any chance? No, that was actually PG Tips. So we're supposed to tell Utah what they're supposed to do? Hey, Utah. Yeah, I know you're very religious and you think abortion is a bad thing and you're not going to legalize it in your state, even though women can just drive next door to Colorado or wherever you want to go and get an abortion. But oh, that's so much work.

18:34 We're going to tell you what to... There's not one state, by the way, that doesn't have a... Not one state where it's going to be illegal in the next few days. I think there's 11 total, where there's not a contiguous state drivable that you can drive to and get an abortion if you really want one. Exactly. So this complaining makes no sense to me, especially from people in California. In Portland, they're gonna tear down the town. It's legal, women. You have not lost anything. You're where you were, you know, before this came down. Yeah, if it was 1950, before Roe versus Wade and the coat hanger era was in play, sure, you'd have something to complain about. This is purely political. Yes. To embarrass Republicans. Yes, yes, yes. And for- All it is. And for- The people that are protesting and screaming into somebody's face, you see,

19:29 Horrible people screaming into somebody's face. They're full of shit. Let's listen to what Americans are saying man on the street It's always great when the news can pick and choose after a pivotal day for America We leave you with what Americans were saying today as the course of the country was rewritten by the Supreme Court The Supreme Court has now overturned Roe v. Wade. I feel betrayed and I feel lost I feel like I'm 19 years old. I've had my first year of college. I shouldn't be worried about my rights being taken away from me. and it hurts that I have little hope for the future. I've had people in my family have abortions and they have felt the regret years and years down the line. If Roe v. Wade wouldn't have been legal inside of the United States, I would have family members that I don't have today. It's shocking. This is something that women should have a right to? I just don't. I can't. Every child deserves life. Human rights start

20:30 Again, all misinformation. Where's Scary Poppins when you need her? This is factually not true. No right's taken away. You're right, completely political and it's going to get so much more fun. And Peter, President Biden is suggesting the court's ruling could lead to other personal freedoms being rolled back. What's he saying about that? Yeah, that's right, Lester. The president cited Justice Thomas's majority opinion that the right to contraception and same-sex marriage should be reconsidered. President Biden arguing the court is now taking the country down an extreme and dangerous path. Ew.

21:23 Because you know what's next? Same-sex marriage and contraception and all kinds of other things the Supreme Court has no business ruling over. Again. You know what? Again. You know, here's a... I'm sorry, let me just, so the difference here is the Supreme Court is keeping to its mission and that is being abused to make it sound like the Republicans, specifically Donald Trump, are removing rights. That's just, that's what you're hearing over and over again. You gotta look through that. Okay. So Mimi's bypassed this whole thing. She's come up with a ploy.

22:01 Okay, she says it is shown up. This is a she picked it up somewhere and it works pretty well You you make the commentary. This is all this is all Ruth Bader Ginsburg's fault That's her fault yeah It's Ruth, and here's the rationale, you just say it to somebody who's screaming at you. This is Ruth Bader Ginsburg's fault because she's the favorite, the all-time favorite of all the jurists ever on the Supreme Court amongst the liberals. But her ego got in the way. She couldn't give up her seat. She wouldn't retire. When she could have retired, we would have had another, you know, it wouldn't have been, you know, Trump wouldn't have picked that person. So, so that's, you're just blaming on Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her grave.

22:47 Uh, here's some funny stuff. Just listen to Trudeau. Oh goodness, hold on a second. Where is... We got a lot of clips today it seems. Mine are all under Roe. Meanwhile, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the Supreme Court's decision overturning Roe v. Wade could lead to loss of other rights in the U.S. And he says his country will continue to allow Americans in to get the procedure. Yeah, except you have to be vaccinated and boosted, otherwise you can't get into Canada. This is the funniest part about it. All right, here's our political Nancy Pelosi. This morning the radical Supreme Court is eviscerating Americans. Radical!

23:24 rights and endangering their health and safety. But the Congress will continue to act to overcome this extremism and protect the American people. Today, the Republican-controlled Supreme Court has achieved their dark, extreme goal of ripping away women's right to make their own reproductive health decisions. Because of Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, and the Republican Party, their supermajority in the Supreme Court. Supermajority? American women today have less freedom than their mothers. Oh. With Roe. Wow! Based upon what you just said, American mothers now have less freedom than their mothers did? Well, if you go back to the 50s, abortion was legal in California. It's totally legal in California, Washington, Oregon. Most of the states, abortion's legal. How does that make any sense, Nancy? Supreme Court

24:24 American women today have less freedom than their mothers. With Roe and their attempt to destroy it, radical Republicans are charging ahead with their crusade to criminalize health freedom. Radical Republicans. Radical Republicans. Criminalize health freedom. Yes, criminalize health free- Yes, now let's listen to the international response. There has also been international reaction with countries around the world condemning today's decision. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called it horrific while French President Emmanuel Macron said abortion is a fundamental right for all women. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson called it a big step backwards.

25:03 The United Nations said it was a huge blow to women's human rights and gender equality. The Vatican, however, praised the decision, saying it is a powerful invitation to reflect and it challenges the whole world. We have several constitutional lawyers who are producers and Professor JJ, Professor Johnson, he coincidentally is the producer who was locked down in Shanghai. Oh, by the way, Macau also locked down. We've got to talk about that. So this opinion is known as the Dobbs ruling and he has written a nine-page analysis and I will read his intro. I won't read the analysis. I mean, the spoiler is right here.

25:52 He says, I've read the Dobbs opinion and as a constitutional scholar and PhD in American politics and public policy can conclude that the ruling states plainly that any and all laws enacted in the name of public health will be found constitutional. This means all quarantines of the healthy, mandatory shots for hospital workers, teachers, students, even homeschooled students, restaurant workers, etc., forced masking of all peoples all the time, both in public and private spaces. They are constitutional and there's no grounds for courts to enjoin applications of mass arrests, mass fines, and even forced injections.

26:31 Now, I saw this circulating on social media, people saying this, well, there it goes, there it goes, this is paving the way. And I was like, okay, I don't believe that. But to have our constitutional scholar here say this, that's interesting. Yeah. How does that relate to Roe? Well, this ruling, this ruling is what makes it so. Well, you have to read his nine-page analysis. But there's language in there that shows that this will be the result. And he publishes this, and it's in the show notes, so that other constitutional scholars can take a look at it. I'm not saying he's right. I'm saying this is his opinion. We have an actual opinion. How many other podcasts have an opinion from a constitutional scholar? Huh? None. You know what? When I listen to other podcasts, you know what it sounds like to me these days? It sounds like you're listening to Twitter.

27:28 I think, I think, blah blah blah, well if that happened to Trump, well if the Democrats did that, blah blah blah blah blah. I got a five second clip here. Ro Shorty. Okay. I gotta scroll a lot today. It's so incredibly flipped. She thinks birth control could be banned next. So what does this all mean for the women in Mississippi? Yeah. Okay, now here is, do you think birth control would be banned next? I just thought that was ridiculous. Of course it is. Okay, I have one more roll clip which is NPR brought an anti-abortionist in to try, which I thought was funny.

28:13 And to try to make sense of the other side, they rarely do this. No, no kidding. They usually have two people that are on the same side pretending to be on opposite sides. And of course you'd hear— I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, what? No, I'm sorry. I started the clip. I'm sorry. And so it's interesting because she's making some sense and then the woman—this is one thing that woman couldn't take it anymore. And she jumps in. and then kind of kicks her off the show and then brings in somebody who's on the other side. Then our job as physicians is to provide excellent care to both of those patients. You know, two of the countries with the best maternal mortality rates in the world, Poland and Malta, abortion is illegal in both of those countries. And Poland actually saw their maternal mortality rates drop dramatically when they went from legalized abortions to making abortion illegal. And in this country where we've had

29:07 access to abortion on demand for the last 50 years, we have one of the worst maternal mortality rates in the developed world. But don't we also have one of the lowest ranked health care systems as well? I mean, many of our citizens don't have access to the same kinds of health care that other countries do. I'm not sure if that's necessarily a fair comparison. I'm not saying that abortion is the only contributor. I'm just saying it's not a solution to maternal mortality. I live, like you said, I live in northeastern Indiana. One zip code away from me. I have one of the zip codes with the worst neonatal mortality rates in our state. And a big contributor to that is the fact that the women in that zip code don't have access to prenatal care close to home. They have to travel for that. So these are the kinds of solutions that not only are real solutions for our maternal mortality issues in the US, but they're also solutions that I personally feel that people on both sides of this issue can unite around.

30:05 Hey, that's not the civil war they want. That's not okay. What are we doing, NPR? I think they're falling down on the job. Well, it's just again, this may be a little premature for the November primaries. I think it's super premature. Maybe that's why it was triggered now. Well, I'm thinking, I'm just kind of thinking the same thing because here's your Supreme Court because they know it's going to be a political hot potato because they already had the leaked document, Craig Weister. Right, right. So the leaked document comes out. So now they got to think amongst themselves.

30:47 And I'm still kind of leaning to John Roberts having leaked the document, but that's, you know. It doesn't matter. It was coming and it gave everybody a heads up. It gave everybody a heads up. Can we hold on to this decision until after the election so it doesn't affect the elections? That's what I would have thought you might consider. And instead they say, let's do it now and get it over with and then by the time it'll blow over. Let's do it live. It's still alive because it doesn't, because the American public's detention span is about a week. I think it's the right, it was probably the right decision that way. I think so too. Now, a lot of, no, so because this is political, and again, it's all political, nothing, I mean, yes, in some states trigger laws, so now abortions will be severely restricted. Texas has a very restrictive law, and here's how it works. I don't like the Texas law. I think that it should be different.

31:42 So I'm not going to support any politicians who stand behind this. That's how our constitutional republic functions. You know, it's really simple. We have a similar structure in each state and if we don't like it, then we'll change it. If not, you accept it because that's, I guess, what people would call democracy because the majority wants it. Or you move to another state so Californians can go back to California. But, you know, political, you just got to go, you got to be extreme, you got to use extreme words, you have to use dismiss and malinformation. And the hands down the best example of this is Anna Navarro, who claims to be a Republican, a Republican strategist. A Republican by

32:30 by a phony baloney Republican. This woman is like, reminds me of that woman on the Washington Post who's supposed to be a conservative blogger, Rubens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's a Democrat. She's a communist. And so is Navarro. But listen to Navarro. And tell me she is not completely unhinged. 57 and has the mental and motor skills of a one-year-old. And I know what that means financially, emotionally, physically for a family. And I know not all families can do it. And I have a step-granddaughter who was born with Down syndrome. And you know what? It is very difficult in Florida to get services. It is not as easy as it sounds on paper. And I've got another, another step-grandson who is

33:31 very autistic, who has autism and it is incredible. And their mothers and people who are in that society, who are in that community will tell you that they've considered suicide because that's how difficult it is to get help, because that's how lonely they feel, because they can't get other jobs, because they have financial issues, because the care that they're able to give their other children suffers and so why can I be Catholic and still think this is a wrong decision? Because I'm American. I'm Catholic inside the church. I'm Catholic when it comes to me. But there's a lot of Americans who are not Catholic and are not Christian and are not Baptist and you have no damn right to tell them what they should do with their body. Nobody does.

34:18 Ladies, obviously it's a very emotional topic. I hear you. I understand that. And I think that Anna, thank you for sharing all of that. And I appreciate you pointing out that it's complicated beyond just supporting the pregnant woman. So did I misunderstand Anna's point in saying that because her family members can't easily get quote unquote services, I.e. abortions in Florida that therefore they have given birth to these unfortunate children who really, it would have been better if they were just killed in the womb? Is that what she said? I thought she was saying that they should be killed now. You may be right. We should have abortion up to 13. She's a eugenicist. She might as well go back to Hitler. Yeah, exactly. Tell me I'm wrong. No, I think you're right. It's nuts. She's nuts.

35:15 These people are crazy. That was, and of course that clip is viral. Had you seen that already or did you just hear it now for the first time? No, no, I saw it and I also saw it on the Twitter feed with the responses. Oh my God. People are very upset by what she said. Well, of course, it's insane what she said. It's not okay. She's a creep. She's a creep. Why is she even on TV making Lots of money. Do you think she still makes a lot of dough? She's a supposed Republican so we've got a Republican on our panel. One of them is a Republican. Anna Navarro, she's a Republican. Sure she is. Do you think that she knows how crazy she is? Have you listened to her for the last five years during the whole trial? I have but you know there's

36:09 There's what they call performatives and kind of doing your news model acting gig, but this came from her heart. I'm like, holy crap, wet lady. Or she just confused. I think she's been sincere all along. Mary Miller, who is the Republican candidate for governor of Illinois. This, yes, I'm sure you've seen this because holy moly. When it comes down to the right to life, you better read the prompter right? Oh my gosh! Thank you so much President Trump. It's such an honor to be able to welcome you. I'm so honored to have your endorsement. President Trump, on behalf of all the MAGA patriots in America, I want to thank you for the historic

36:54 victory for white life in the Supreme Court yesterday. Ruh-roh. Now she said thank you for the white life. Now what she says is I misread the prompter, it should have been right to life. But that's a Freudian slip no matter what lady. That was bad. That's pretty funny. That's bad. Now one of the One of the ways I think that would be interesting to solve this issue is by going to the men. You know, when it comes to reproduction, men certainly have a role to play, at least part of it. And I thought this chant says it all. Regulate ejaculation! Regulate ejaculation! Regulate ejaculation! I think we should have that. I think that's something that Google develops.

37:47 Or Elon Musk, regulate ejaculation. You have to insert a coin first. Or a token. Token. Excuse me, do you have your token before we have sex? I need to see your token please. So this of course distracts from everything. And how long do you think this will be going on? Two months? Six weeks? Well, you could do a pool on any of these things. I mean, it's probably, I think it's going to calm down sooner than later. I hope so. I mean, geez. It's crazy. It's wheel spinning. Yeah. And it's not accomplishing anything, especially in state again. You know, they had protests in San Francisco. Why? Yeah. There's not a woman in the protest. Doesn't have full rights to an abortion on demand in California. What are you complaining about? Are there any limits in California? I don't actually know the law. Are there limits?

38:43 I think is the main. It's not completely out of control like in Oregon, where it's again, you know, if it's hooked to an umbilical cord, you can club it. Is that what it says in the law there? It's got some other way of putting it. You can club it. I like it. It's pretty much, you know, one second, I'm not pleased with this idea. Well, you're going to be, your baby's crowning. I think we better put an end to it. Yeah. But that's literally... Now, there's one thing that's not being discussed, which I don't think we'll hear at all on the mainstream, is our baby mama culture that we have created. So just know the statistics are 70% of children grow up fatherless. And that's not just black and brown communities, that's all communities, that's a class, it's poverty.

39:37 And the baby mama culture, which has been completely exploited, expanded and turned into hip, cool stuff and the Kardashians, I put a blame on them. This whole baby mama idea or baby daddy. The way I see it is it doesn't matter how rich you are. It's happened to me. There are women who will try to lock down a man with pregnancy. This is just a fact of life. It's like, okay, well if I have a kid with this guy, I'll lock him down. I think that is being used too often and then the dad, the baby daddy goes off and says, well, you know, I got three over, three more over here and I'm not thinking about you too much. I don't think I'm going to support that kid. And that's when you get a late-term abortion. And this is a fact. That's what Planned Parenthood does. That's most of their business.

40:36 And to be fair, contraceptive stuff is expensive. So it's really a form of birth control but completely gone awry. And I don't think anyone will really bring that topic up because it's part of popular culture that makes this really, really bad. We need fathers in the house. All right. So let's move on. Yes. Let's move on to probably the most chilling testimony I have heard of Dr. Commander Lieutenant Burks regarding the vaccinations. Did you see her being drilled and grilled in the Senate? Or in the House? I don't have the clips, but Dr. Burks is off the rails.

41:33 Well, she pretty much tried to save herself and throw everybody else under the bus with her answers to this questioning by Jim Jordan. You're an expert. You were on the task force. You were part of this effort when you were in the previous administration. And you're saying in this administration that you can't rule out the fact that our government was lying to us when they told us the vaccinated could not get the virus. I don't know about their discussions that they had in the task force. So I can't tell you that. I can tell you as a family member who had individuals that were susceptible, of course we got everybody vaccinated. But we still used layered protection during surges because I knew potentially the vaccine immunity would wane like natural immunity waned. And there was evidence that every four months, reinfection was occurring in South Africa. Wow. When the government told us that the vaccine, it couldn't transmit it, was that a lie or was that a guess? Or is it the same answer?

42:27 I think it was hope that the vaccine would work in that way. And that's why I think scientists and public health leaders always have to be at the table, being very clear what we know and what we don't know. This is important for the country to know. So when I ask the question, when the government told us that the vaccinated couldn't get it, And I asked you if it was a guess or a lie, you said you don't know. You said you think it was hope. So what we do know is it wasn't the truth. So they were either guessing, lying, or hoping and communicating that information to the citizens of this country. I think they were hoping, but you should know in those original phase three trials that were done in this country that we only measured for symptomatic disease.

43:12 So we weren't proactively testing everybody in those trials to see if they got infected with mild or asymptomatic disease. And so people had to present within the clinical trial. So we never had the data that it was going to protect against asymptomatic infection. I'm just struck with the irony. We got government agencies guessing, hoping, or lying with the information they're presenting to the American people. And this is the same administration that wants to set up the Disinformation Governance Board and wants to talk about misinformation. And they're the biggest purveyors of misinformation, false information, hopeful information, but not accurate and true information, which is, again, the frustration I think so many of the folks I get the privilege of representing have shared with me.

44:02 Yeah, uh, okay, so it was all just messaging. They really didn't have any data. I hope this is clear to the American public. This will not be reported on, obviously. It'll be reported? Why would it be? I don't know, it makes no sense. It doesn't sell anything. But that's, that's pretty damning. Now, of course, this is the previous, you know, this administration, she had nothing to do with it. But, okay, so we need to start hauling. Oh, I like the idea of, oh, it's based on hope. Does vaccine work? Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah. Well, I hope it works. So now that we are preparing to vaccinate children under five, let's play both sides of that coin. Dr. Osterholm, our buddy up there in, where is he? In Houston? I think he's in Houston or Dallas.

44:51 He's the children vaccine guy. He literally is making vaccines for children and of course he's real happy about this. Since the pandemic began, over 45,000 children under the age of five have been hospitalized for COVID-19. 10,000 have had to go to the ICU. Omicron has caused a substantial increase in the impact on young children, especially in the U.S. More than 1,400 children and teenagers have died from COVID-19. And more than 400 of those deaths were in children under the age of five. This is not insignificant. For context, these numbers tell us that COVID-19 is six times deadlier than influenza for children.

45:34 As I've mentioned before, Chris, my biggest concern that parents are still extremely hesitant to get their child vaccinated against COVID. Right now, if I think about the 20 million children aged six months to five years of age in this country, how many will get vaccinated? Well, let me put this into context in terms of the older age groups. If we look at the 23 million children, 5 to 17, who have gotten vaccinated, that sounds great. until you realize 26 million kids in that same age group have not received any vaccine at all. Oh no! So I think it's an important message we have got to get our kids vaccinated. Man, that guy's working for the devil himself, isn't he? I think Biden puts it a little better.

46:19 Oops, oops, oops. Biden announced this whole thing about the vaccines. This is Biden at Vaccine Clinic where he is congratulating the kids that showed up there to get the shot. Children are wonderful. Thank you, Arsima, and for that introduction. And Jill and I, we're honored to visit your clinic today. We met with your fellow nurses and staff who are stepping up each and every day. And we met with families of young children And there were about, I guess, 17, 18 families there waiting for their vaccine shots or have just gotten their vaccine shots. And finally, COVID-19 vaccinations for children over five years of age. Finally, some peace of mind. You know, this is our, should I say under five years, we got them over five years, but over five months to, six months to five years. Yeah, the way you like them, Joe.

47:13 Alright, so that's the president who knows a lot about children. Here is Toby Rogers of the Children's Health Defense. That's Robert Kennedy Jr.'s outfit. He has a different view. So Pfizer and Moderna, as enabled by the FDA, have come up with a scheme. The scheme is called the Future Framework, and the idea is to skip clinical trials in perpetuity. And what the FDA is proposing to do, and they're going to vote on this in five days, they're going to vote on it on Tuesday, June 28th. And the proposal is to say that any reformulated COVID-19 shots are biologically similar to existing COVID-19 shots.

48:03 and so therefore they can skip clinical trials altogether. So we won't have any human data at all. Yay! Well in fact... New Vax from Pfizer kind of talks about the new reformulated vaccines that Pfizer's working on as we speak. Pfizer says new versions of its COVID-19 vaccine appear to protect people against the Omicron variant. Appear. And here's Rob Stein has more. Appear. Pfizer and BioNTech say they tested two new versions of their vaccine. One targets the original strain of the virus plus Omicron. The other just targets Omicron.

48:41 The company say both new formulations appear to boost levels of antibodies that can neutralize the Omicron variant. The companies are submitting the data to the Food and Drug Administration, which is holding a meeting Tuesday to decide whether to recommend authorizing new versions of the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine and the Moderna vaccine for another booster campaign in the fall. Some scientists question whether the new vaccines work better than the original vaccine, how strong any added protection might be, and how long it might last. Oh my goodness. All right, we have to go to the king now just to wrap up what's going on with the vaccines. Part of your second wave.

49:21 collection that you had on the last episode, Dr. Robert McCullough comes back and really is mincing no words about these vaccines. A graph. The COVID-19 vaccines take the cake for the risk of death. And Marc Giaudou from France, scientist in a lot of our working groups, has proposed a name for this. It's called the Russian Roulette Theory of COVID-19 Vaccination. Do you know when the messenger RNA vaccines are made, the messenger RNA is pretty unstable. It has to be cooled and probably each strand is a little bit different than the next one because of how the base pairs line up and there has to be humanized

50:08 code within it so the ribosomes will read it and then there's these nucleoside analog caps. The belief is that each vial and each lot is different. And on top of that, there are multi-use vials. So there's actually a lot of needles being stuck in each vial. So there's an opportunity for changing oxidation, sulfation, there may be changes in cooling. So, one theory here Dave is a lot of people actually probably get a dud. They get a shot and not much happens. They don't get much immune protection if any, but they don't really get much in the way of side effects. But if someone really gets a good install

50:50 of messenger RNA coding for the lethal Wuhan spike protein, it does exactly what it's supposed to do. It injures organs and in fact causes death. And when we apply the Bradford-Hill criteria for death Due to COVID-19 vaccines, we fulfill all the criteria. It's epidemiologically consistent that the vaccines are causing death in a large number. Ooh, I like that he said install. When you get a good install. Good install. So I have a complaint. Okay. Now, and this has gone on long enough. The vaccines came out, they're over a year in play, and this argument's been going back and forth. You got McCullough on one side, then you got these other people on the other, the Burks and these other, the Fauci's and the rest. We can't get a public open debate about the facts of the matter.

51:43 One side says, no, no, these things will kill you left and right. You're going to get the spike protein. Your head's going to fall off. You're going to drop dead in the middle of the soccer field. You're going to be dying left and right. The kids are going to get myocarditis. And the other side say, no, no, no. You got the Osterholm guy. Oh no, the kids are dying to COVID. These vaccines are safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective. They say that over and over and over. You can't get these two guys in a room. So the public, and actually you have, didn't you say the same thing with the podcasters? You got the, oh, get Vax, I got Vax, I got Vax, I got Vax. Podcasters, and you got, oh, these things are bad. Why can't we get two major league experts? I would put McCullough in there with maybe like a panel of three McCullough level people and a panel of three on the other side.

52:33 and have an open forum. Why can't one of the big networks set this up? Why can't somebody produce this? Oh, I can tell you exactly why. The reason why is advertising. Your company with your partner BioNTech and Moderna, the other company, have both pioneered the use of messenger RNA, which can easily be reprogrammed every time the spike protein of a coronavirus evolves or changes. Do you think we're going to get updated mRNA vaccines every season that'll be directed to each new variation of the coronavirus? And will we have to take those shots every year?

53:16 I'm almost certain about it. I say almost certain because of course regulators have the final say in all of that. But that's the beauty of mRNA. You can adapt your vaccine just by changing the sequencing, which is a very minor change either manufacturing or in the properties of the vaccine safety or efficacy, but can make a huge difference in the way that responds to the virus. So for this reason, I'm very confident that we will be able to respond very, very fast to every new variant. Yeah, and this is why you can't have the debate because Pfizer will be sponsoring and advertising until kingdom come. This is our flaw. Buying the media. This is our flaw. The media has been bought off. This is a major flaw in the American system. And there's nothing anyone can do about it.

54:05 I keep saying that the ransomware dudes, they gotta let some crap loose on CNN, all of NBC News, all, just, just get the ransomware out there. Get it on the satellite dishes, get it in the uplinks, get it on the streaming servers. Let's go, Benz! Come on, let's go! That would stop it. That's the problem. If I were a radical, if I were an anarchist... But how do the ransomware guys, or they've taken the VACs, they're happy as clams. Damn, what kind of ransomware guys are you? Losers. Come on. Speaking of lying, you know, one of the closely watched lockdowns of the entire COVID period was Australia. Sir Chris Wilson still hasn't returned completely to normal.

54:59 I'm hoping... he's even more mountain man than he was. Here's New South Wales, this is the premier of New South Wales. I think when you've got... did you get in the media? on any decision the government makes. The most ironic one I thought was we ended up bringing QR codes back when we weren't even tracking and tracing. There was no science behind it at all. It had zero utility, but there was a massive campaign and when those massive campaigns get run, what it does, it depletes confidence. And that kind of reporting, as we've seen over this period of time, has depleted confidence in our people. So we actually brought it back for one reason only, to instill confidence that people would go out with using QR codes. Oh, okay. So it had nothing to do with safety. There was no science behind it. We just wanted to make sure that you scared people would go out. Bullshit. Bullshit. European Union just renewed their digital COVID pass.

56:02 for another year, was supposed to expire June 30th. But, you know, why don't we just keep that going? I mean, it'll be handy should we have it, you know, something else going on. 453 for, 119 against. Europe, you are lost. The amount of people who told me, no, no, it's expiring. It's June 30th, it's expiring. You know, the past won't be a thing. It's okay, it's expiring. You have no representation in the European Union. Well, that's nothing new. Yeah, but it's this really does affect people's lives. I mean, we still you still can't visit the United States unless you're a citizen or have a green card if you haven't been vaccinated. I think that's that's unbelievable. That's a travesty, especially because if you just walk across the border in the South, it's not a problem and you get a debit card to boot and a smartphone. Well, that's the way to go. Yeah. So.

57:03 Alright, well I think we've covered that. I don't think I have anything else. No, well the only other thing is one of our producers suggested there be a No Agenda Nation green book. Yes, I like the idea. You saw my response, I'm assuming. Yeah, another great idea that we'll never do. Something we can't accomplish. We just can't accomplish that. It's a great idea, though. Somebody should think about this. What he was suggesting was, and you had to see the movie The Green Book or understand what a green book was, which was a publication. A safe place for black Americans to stay

57:41 Does that go back to the 30s? I think it was mostly in the 30s where you could travel around the country in a car and you could stay in these hotels and you go to these nightclubs and all these. It was all in the book. They would advertise in there as friendly so it wasn't like segregated or couldn't go, you know, that kind of thing. Whites only, none of that. So you'd say the same thing, you'd do the same thing with the vaccination, it makes sense. The movie The Green Book I think won the Academy Awards quite… It sure did. It sure did. So he said specifically, oh he says, with the no agenda message of Roe versus Wade changes necessary for mandatory vaccines. He sees it too, he sees that possibly mandatory vaccinations are cleared now. I have an idea, the two of you make the modern version of The Green Book.

58:26 It's a great idea. We can't even get the Value for Value book off the ground and we invented the damn concept. Even though not entirely related. Well, it actually is related. We still got the gay diseases out there. And for some reason everyone's picking on the gays. Demand for the monkeypox vaccine is growing because of a rising number of cases. A long line formed in New York where vaccines were offered to sexually active gay and bisexual men. Some had to be turned away. The CDC is working to broaden eligibility for the vaccine. Wait a minute.

59:05 So did they look at the eligibility and say, say something? Uh, no, they're not gay. Long line of gay men, huge long line of gay men in New York City. They, they came by, the FBI came by and took the pictures that they needed for the database. And then they said, Oh, you, you, we already get you already in the database. Get out. You already know you, you, Hey, you. I thought they were screening and saying, Hey man, just talk to me for a second. Okay. Walk. Let me see if you're gay or not. You're not gay, get out of line. So that to be turned away, the CDC is working to broaden eligibility for the vaccine. The World Health Organization could soon declare monkeypox a global emergency. Isn't that interesting? So the eligibility is only for gay and bisexual men. Newsflash, bisexual men have sex with women. Should they not be getting the monkeypox vaccination? I mean, the answer of course is always no, but

59:58 But this eligibility is discriminatory by its very nature. Only gay and bisexual men. Today in New York City, monkey pox vaccines were given out for the first time. Only available for those at high risk. Gay or bisexual men who have had multiple partners in the last two weeks. Have we learned nothing from the AIDS crisis? It was the same thing. Oh, gay and bisexual men, yeah, yeah. Bisexual men have sex with women. Women are at risk if this were true, which is not. But the one clinic in Manhattan giving out shots was overwhelmed by demand, closing its doors to walk-ins by midday. I have monkey pox. I was notified by a sexual partner that I had encountered. Actor Tim Hickernel is suffering from sores and flu-like symptoms. Nice! What started as three sores

1:00:48 became more and even to this day I feel like I'm finding ones on my body like today I just found one on my hand. According to the CDC, there are 173 cases in the US across 25 states. Most cases are mild. At this point, the general population should not be worried that monkeypox is going to cause another pandemic. We're just not there yet. But high-risk groups are being asked to remain vigilant. Monkeypox is not nearly as contagious as COVID. Still, the World Health Organization is considering declaring a global health emergency. A decision could come by the end of the week. While here in New York, Hickornell hopes to help by telling his story. I just feel it's important to educate one another and look out for each other and just

1:01:38 Keep talking about it. Awareness, say medical experts, will be the best defense. Stephanie Goss, NBC News, New York. Just keep talking about it, people. It's all going to be good. It's going to be dynamite. Keep talking about it. This is so incredibly lame. I mean it really is and we have a new one now for the gays. Meanwhile an outbreak of meningococcal disease in Florida is being called one of the worst among gay and bisexual men in US history. Seven people have died. The CDC urges men in Florida who have sex with men to get vaccinated. I mean this is so discriminatory and is anyone noticing what's going on here?

1:02:18 All of us, we've just taken the G and a B right out of the alphabet, that's just you guys. Do the G's and the B's never have anything with the T's, with the two A's? I'm just asking. I don't know, I'm just wondering who the two is. That's two spirit. Two spirit. What is that supposed to mean? It's bullshit! I'm a two. A two what? Two spirit. I'm too happy? You're too happy? Yes, exactly. You're too happy. Yes, you're two spirits is what you are. Two spirits. Two spirits. Well, let's look at some... I can guarantee we have no two's listening to this show. Oh, I'll bet we do. They're fed up with us. I don't think so. They're still trying to convert us and trying to get us in on the program.

1:03:09 Possibly. I do have a January 6th wheel spinning clip. It's one clip about January 6th and I think it says it all. Okay... Meet the press. I'm looking for... what would you title this one? Jan 6th. That's weird. Oh, there it is. I got it. Brings me to the all-important question, Betsy. Does the January 6th hearing break through at all? Is this more proof it does not? I don't think it does. I've talked to two separate Democratic members of Congress in the last couple weeks about January 6th, obviously can't say who, and both of them have said offhandedly nobody gives a bleep about January 6th when they're talking about their districts and the way that elections play out.

1:03:58 The reality is, obviously, it's a very important issue. Obviously, I've been covering this nonstop for the last year. It's important. It's a key part of understanding American history and the democratic trajectory that this country is on. It is also true at the same time and not at all contradictory that it's not a top-tier voting issue for people who are figuring out who they're going to support during the midterms. Top-tier issues are material concerns. How are people paying their mortgages? How much does it cost to get milk and bread? How much does it cost to get gas? Do these hearings result in different electoral outcomes for Democrats? I have yet to see any actual evidence that they do. Now, her name is Betsy Woodruff Swan, but she is Bob Woodruff's kid. She's Bob Woodruff's kid? Yes, sir. I looked it up because I had the same clip. Bob Woodruff the anchor.

1:04:55 Well, he's a news guy. Yeah, news anchor. Yeah. So this is, you know, the typical little nepotism. She's somewhat adenoidal when she talks. I'm sure she can't help it, John. I'm sure she's trying. I'm sure she can't help her personal defects. Maybe rinse her nose out once in a while. Get those You know, whatever could be stuck up there. Here's a little January 6th mini cut from MSNBC. Welcome back to our primetime recap of today's explosive January 6th hearing. Stomach-turning, riveting, compelling. Stunning testimony from the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th assault. A stunning round of testimony from the witnesses. Of course, what the committee was able to offer in terms of new materials that we had never seen before. Never before seen material!

1:05:43 Yes, it's great! What a bunch of hooey. Yeah, you're right, no one cares and eventually this Roe v. Wade will... It'll have to fade out because things are just gonna start to really, really suck. But first related to the January 6th, I didn't know this was taking place Apparently a lot of Republicans are requesting to be pardoned by the current president Trump White House officials testified that at least five Republican members of Congress asked for presidential pardons on that list Republican representative Mo Brooks of Alabama who sent an email to the White House asking for pardons not only for

1:06:23 for himself, but for the 147 Republicans in the House who voted against certifying the 2020 election. The special assistant to the president at the time also testified that Representative Matt Gaetz of Florida was personally pushing for a blanket pardon since early December. Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona also sought a pardon, according to witnesses, as well as Louie Gohmert of Texas and Scott Perry of Pennsylvania. David, tonight reaction is starting to come in from these Republicans. Scott Perry's office denying this, calling it a ludicrous, soulless lie. Mo Brooks not denying it at all, but saying the pardons were unnecessary after all. But the words from Republican Adam Kinzinger who says, the only reason why you would think to ask for a pardon is if you think you committed a crime. Why are these guys doing this? Are they really that worried?

1:07:13 I think this is old news that was brought up just recently because I guess they did during this one era. I don't know. I have no idea what this is about. It's only six really. But I was noticing something when I picked it up. I got a bunch of crappy clips. They're actually great clips, but they're not. I don't like the way they're produced because somebody has to put this music. I don't understand. Oh, I hate it when that happens. People do that all the time. But okay, we can live with it. And they're doing it all the time and they're doing it on NPR live on the air. What? They're doing like clown music and Valkyries and stuff to go with a supercut or something? Oh, geez. So there was a bunch of these clips. They're all long, but I got El Gore, I got Hillary, I got John Cairn, I got Stacey Abrams, which is just a minor one.

1:08:02 all bitching and moaning that they didn't, they lost the election unfairly. And I've noticed this, I mean you can play any one of these and it's just a bitching and moaning about, oh I was elected, just what Trump did. Oh I see what you're saying, yes okay. Pierre, play Stolen Al Gore. For those who are maybe not old enough, Al Gore, there was a disputed election of 2000 George Bush, George W. Bush versus Al Gore. You might have heard of the hanging chads. How many weeks did it take? Three weeks before they finally announced who had won? Maybe even longer. The Supreme Court told them to put a stop to it, and so they did. And then they called it, yeah. We actually won the last presidential election, folks. They stole the last presidential election. And Al Gore won that election. I think he won it anyway. Actually, I think I carried Florida. Bush versus Gore. What I like about this, John, and thank you for bringing this,

1:08:57 Typically, on typical podcasts, all you'll hear is, well man, it was like Bush and Gore and all the Democrats said this, and I think they said it, and it was the other way around. We bring... You've been listening to some podcasts this week and you got a hair up your ass about it. I just realized that that's all that the... Like Megan Kelly, she'll never have me on again, so I can say whatever I want. She's boring. She brings on people who just... Tim Pool, the same thing. They're just sitting there doing Twitter. They're doing Twitter. They're like Twitter on a podcast and it's boring. Bring some clips people. A court took away a presidency. If all the votes were counted in Florida, that Al Gore would be president today and George Bush would be back in office. I come from Florida where you and others participated in what I call the United States coup d'etat. There's no doubt in my mind that Al Gore was elected president. This was from NPR? The fraudulent 25 Florida

1:09:53 No, this is from one of the clipped people that do super cuts. Not the people of the United States decided this election. Speaking to a Democratic group in Chicago Tuesday, he made it clear he thinks Al Gore won. Alright, hold on. Now let's listen to Hillary. Because it's three minutes, so... Can I do Hillary now? Yeah, you can do anything you want. Oh, okay. I'll do Hillary. You can run the best campaign. Let me rephrase that. You can even become the nominee. And you can have the election stolen from you. How can you win with Russian interference, though?

1:10:39 That's the real thing. That's what I'm scared about in 2020. But rightly. Because I think he's an illegitimate president that didn't really win. So how do you, you know, fight against that in 2020? You are absolutely right. He's an illegitimate president in my mind. Would you be my vice presidential candidate? Folks, look, I absolutely agree. Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and he was put in office because of the Russians' interference. Trump knows he's an illegitimate president. The president, although legally elected, is not legitimate. I don't see this. President-elect as a legitimate president. You said you believe that Russia's interference altered the outcome of the election. I do. We have a president who, if in fact it is proven, has been assisted by the Russians and may in fact not be a legitimate president. The one thing that Trump

1:11:28 is fearful of when it comes to his being president is that finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was. Oh man this is so good it's all the same thing but no no no they're missing Trump here's John Kerry who has some will remember lost against Barack Obama's re-election. Constantly shifting vote. No, no. No, I'm sorry, that's wrong. That was Mitt Romney. What is John... No! But who ran against Obama? Romney. John Kerry, which is the next clip you're about to play, ran against Bush's re-election. Oh, I'm sorry. But it was indeed Romney who ran against Obama's re-election, right?

1:12:10 Yeah, but that was then... which I'll bring up the point about that. I think he actually got robbed. Before you play the carry clips. Romney ran against Obama and lost. He didn't bitch and moan and say he lost, he got stolen, blah, blah, blah. John McCain ran against Obama and lost, and he didn't bitch and moan saying that he won and Obama's an illegitimate president. You can go back and one person after another. Democrats always do this. They bitch and moan, and the Kerry clips will show this happening there too. And they claim and they whine and they go on and on and by all means illegitimate, I should have won. No Republican ever does that, except Trump did it.

1:12:54 Trump's the only one who did it and they make a big fuss get back in your hole. You can't do it We're the ones who complain constantly. Here's John Kerry constantly shifting vote tallies in Ohio And malfunctioning electronic machines, which may not have paper receipts, have led to additional loss of confidence by the public. The right to vote has been stolen from qualified voters. In 2004, the democratic process was thwarted. The 2004 presidential election in Ohio was riddled with unnecessary problems. Some machines malfunctioned, causing votes to be counted more than once.

1:13:34 or not at all. Based upon an inordinate number of allegations suggesting gross voting rights violations and misconduct, I join with my colleagues in objecting to counting the state of Ohio's electoral votes. As in 2000, the votes of many who wanted to vote were not in fact counted. This last Friday night I arranged to meet Senator Kerry at a fundraiser to give him a copy of my book. He told me he now thinks the election was stolen. into the mother machines that control the electronic voting. There were numerous irregularities in Ohio, including large percentages of rejections of provisional balloting, problems with voting machines. As we look at our election system, it's basically the same script over and over again, isn't it? It's the same script over and over again, always executed by the Democrats.

1:14:38 Trump took the same script. He took their play. And this was no good. You can't have him saying this. That's not okay. Trump, back off, man. Get away from our show. I mean, the only other one I have on here, and I think I could document this going way back, but let's do one that just shows this little offshoot trying to pull it off on a state level. You don't see it as much on the state level, but this is Stacey Abrams. And this is a shorter clip series. The other ones were By the way, I want to mention to the people out there that these clips are three and a half minutes long and Adam cut them off at about a minute. They could have gone on and on and on and on and on. And they will be in the show notes. Everybody can go ahead and listen to them. You can listen to them yourself. But here's one that's less than a minute from Stacey Abrams using the same script.

1:15:20 Voter intimidation. There aren't going to be any more. And she's using the same background music. I mean, that's really brazen. Voter intimidation. There aren't going to be any more election stealings. And despite the vitality and the inauguration and the situation we find ourselves in, I do have one very affirmative statement to make. We won. Without voter suppression, Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida. You refuse to concede. That sounds kind of cool in hindsight. Did you see that Gillum was convicted?

1:14:38 Trump took the same script. He took their play. And this was no good. You can't have him saying this. That's not okay. Trump, back off, man. Get away from our show. I mean, the only other one I have on here, and I think I could document this going way back, but let's do one that just shows this little offshoot trying to pull it off on a state level. You don't see it as much on the state level, but this is Stacey Abrams. And this is a shorter clip series. The other ones were By the way, I want to mention to the people out there that these clips are three and a half minutes long and Adam cut them off at about a minute. They could have gone on and on and on and on and on. And they will be in the show notes. Everybody can go ahead and listen to them. You can listen to them yourself. But here's one that's less than a minute from Stacey Abrams using the same script.

1:15:20 Voter intimidation. There aren't going to be any more. And she's using the same background music. I mean, that's really brazen. Voter intimidation. There aren't going to be any more election stealings. And despite the vitality and the inauguration and the situation we find ourselves in, I do have one very affirmative statement to make. We won. Without voter suppression, Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia. Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida. You refuse to concede. That sounds kind of cool in hindsight. Did you see that Gillum was convicted?

1:16:00 Yeah. Convicted of 10 counts of wire fraud for raising money for illegitimate purposes. Poor guy, man. He went down in flames. Is the governor of Florida. You refuse to concede and say that you lost. Do you stand by that decision today? Absolutely. The election was not fair. The process was not fair. If Stacey Abrams doesn't win in Georgia, they stole it. It's clear. It's clear. I think that Stacey Abrams' election is being stolen from her. It was not a free and fair election. Brian Kemp stole the gubernatorial election from Georgians and Stacey Abrams. But will I say that this election was not tainted, was not a disinvestment and a disenfranchisement of thousands of voters? I will not say that.

1:16:44 Oh yeah. And so now we have the January 6th hearings and because Trump wouldn't admit that he lost, this is a threat to democracy. But meanwhile, you got these other bozos, Kerry and Hillary and everybody that's a Democrat doing the same thing constantly. How come that's not a threat to democracy? Well, seeing as there's threats to our democracy, our democracy is hanging on by a thread. We have good news. Q is back! Ha ha! Got him! Q is back, John! Q is back! Q is back! Q is back! That's good news! Q is back! Got him! He's coming back. He's back. He's back. It's gonna be freaking crazy. But...

1:17:41 Latest posts, just saying. Is shall we play a game once more? Oh, he's back and he said, shall we play a game once more? This could be very exciting for these midterms. Q is back. Can you believe that there are people who are actually excited about that? Do they not feel screwed? I mean, oh man. I mean, they should. They should feel incredibly screwed by Q screwed. They were Q screwed. Screwed by the Q. Yeah, don't think it makes sense. With that I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C's in clips of complainers ladies and gentlemen please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John C. Dvorak

1:18:32 Hey, in the morning to you Mr. Ann McCurry, in the morning all ships, seaboos, the raffi, the yosseps, the wardens, dames and knights out there. Yeah, well in the morning to the trolls in the troll room, let's have a little hand... No, you know what, let's just stand still. Stand still, I'm gonna count you. Running away is... I said stand still. Okay. 2,546. Hello. That just popped up a bit, eh? Eh? Hey, isn't that getting pretty close to a normal day back at the old time? Yeah, I think it's good. I think that's a normal number. That's beautiful. Thank you very much trolls. Good to have you all here. Very nice. You can find the trolls at trollroom.io. In fact, you can actually become a troll if you want. You can just go in there and troll around. I mean, you can listen live to the noagendastream.com.

1:19:24 I knew I forgot something. What? I forgot to turn on the live alert. The recorder. Yeah, this new system is so great I forgot to turn on the recorder. No, I forgot to turn on the live... I was so excited about the new gear and getting it all set up with you that I didn't send off the bat signal to all of the 2.0 apps. Sorry people. Sorry, my mistake. So good, there's a lot of trolls who are hanging out, who are listening for sure. And you can also go to a mastodon server, becoming more and more popular these days as you go on Twitter and all you think is, I'm reading podcasts, this is annoying. So why don't you get a real social network, get on the Fediverse, it's where it's dangerous, where it's crazy, but you do have a lot more control. And if you set up your own server, you have ultimate control of what comes in, who you can follow, who follows you, etc.

1:20:20 And you can follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com or Adam at noagendasocial.com and join the conversation. It's good. Have you seen anything good on the socials? Well, we got some memes. Oh, you picked them up off on noagendasocial? It's a good source for clips and stuff, I find. It's a good source for a lot of... Yeah, it's not bad. And we got one guy pro-Russian, that's Sergine. You know, he keeps posting and then I think Cometrip blogger keeps spitting in his face, you know, CSB is anti-Russian, Genus Pro. Well, it's Polish. But what you don't see is you don't see these long threads that keep popping up and you know, the algo would continue to make you crazy. You just don't see that.

1:21:09 And that's the beauty of a non-algoized, federated social network. Get on this, people. There's another advantage, especially with our mastodon server. What's that? No Rob Reiner. I'd like to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1462. We titled that one Harp at Home. Big hit with the ladies. Everybody loved the title. And this, the more I look at it, the more I love this artwork by Capitalist Agenda as we were of course celebrating our favorite food group, the macaroni and change, the Kraft name change, the mac and cheese. We were so excited about it. Unlike everyone else who was very excited, we didn't get paid to be excited about it, but we did get badass art.

1:21:57 And this was the smiley face macaroni and cheese with the gooey, nasty drip of cheap cheddar and he's got a tongue sticking out, licking the cheddar-y lips. It was so... what is the term I'm looking for? It was troubling. It was a troubling piece of art. But does that sound fair? Troubling. I don't know. I just thought it was a nice piece. Yeah, but I looked at it more and more as I see it scrolling by on Twitter. The original one you liked was Bugs and Cheese. I thought it was cute. I thought the Bugs and Cheese was a good one. And then, you know, we had a lot of artists come in. I liked Hookers on Ice. I thought that was a good one. It was next to Bugs on Cheese, the two houses. Right. Two shacks and one of them pointing an arrow on it. There's a little signage. Yeah.

1:22:52 And I think what we decided was mac and cheese and the craft name change that there was it was the timing was right to do to do something. Yeah, we always do hookers on ice. Hookers on ice. It's it's a seasonal thing, man. The I think you use for the newsletter, the the masterminds syringe with facts and false and yes, I use that one because I thought it was It's a little understated, but it's very modern. It's modern graphic art style. It was just kind of met. There's a messiness to it that I like. I thought it was worked. It was a beautiful piece. Yeah. And the messiness contrast with the neatness, the superfine neatness of the type font he used for the logo. I mean, it's just the contrast within the piece itself is quite, I thought, appealing.

1:23:52 The J6 bomb from capitalist agenda didn't work, because you looked at it and went, what does this mean? The J6 bomb. Yeah, no, no, bomb. Bomb, bomb, bomb. Oh, the bomb. Oh, the bomb with the donkey hanging out. Yeah. I like the piece. It was so pretty, but I couldn't figure out what it was about. It was too small. The little J6 bomb was on the warhead and it just wasn't apparent. It's hard. You got to look at these things at the size that you'll see in apps because that's what we do. I did like the donkey hanging onto a bomb, though. That was cute. That was cute. And we had... What else did we have? A couple other mac and cheese things. I think that was it. Was there anything else that we... Yeah. Most of the mac and cheese things didn't quite turn the corner. Tont and Neil tried to do a Hookers on Ice, which I thought was a little too blatant. Yeah. I like the pink hat, but you know, it should have been a pussy hat. It would have been better. Well, she has a pussy... Isn't that a pussy? Oh, no, it's not a pussy hat. It's the pussy hat color.

1:25:03 Now I still think that Sir Ned's hookers on ice, I thought was the winner. It's dynamite. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you very much to all of these artists for continually bringing the heat when the heat is necessary. It's really appreciated. And again, we thank, wait, who was it now? Who was it who won? Capitalist Agenda. Capitalist Agenda. Yeah. Capitalist Agenda. He does that kind of stuff. He's quite good. He's like just generally good. And I also want to welcome back Kenny Benoit. Did you unblock her? Yeah, I told you I found a way to do it. Actually, Roundy found the mechanism. Did you hear the... I'll play it at the end of the show. Did you hear the block mix? Yeah, I heard it. You didn't like it?

1:25:53 More insulting. I'm just here to be insulted. It makes you like a superstar. What are you talking about? It was fantastic. Douche star. No. Okay, I'll listen to it again. I take that as a huge compliment and people love you for who you are. Block him. All of these images. The mechanism's there for a reason. That's true. That's true. All of these images can be seen, actually you can, if you're listening in real time, if you're in the troll room or listening to noagendastream.com, you can just sit there and literally refresh noagendargenerator.com while we're talking to see stuff pop up. Or get yourself a new podcast app, that's where all of them come by, the ones that we're talking about. Other ones are used for different chapters. This is a Podcasting 2.0 exclusive feature for now, although today,

1:26:43 We got a beautiful write-up in 9to5Mac, which I think is pretty big. Isn't 9to5Mac a big publication? Never heard of it. I think they've been around for a while. We got a very nice write-up. What did they say? Podcasting 2.0 kicks ass and Apple should implement the standards. Well, they should. That's what I liked about it, is that they're saying, hey, we're Mac guys, we're 9to5Mac, you should be implementing this stuff and not being douches. Douches. Yeah, you know, if somebody gives hands you something on a silver platter does all the work that you should have done and you can just use it because it's open source or whatever, however it's distributed. You just do it. What is the drawback? What is the NIMBY non-invented here thing going on for when you can just take advantage of a situation? I don't get it. That's Apple for you. They've always been like that. They've always gone their own way.

1:27:41 And many times to great success. So that's up to them. They don't care. They don't really care about podcasting. They do not care. It doesn't show up on their revenue. They don't care. People will still use their devices. That's what they care about. All right. Everyone can be usurped. You too, Apple. Now let's thank some of our, not just some, let's thank all of our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1463 of the No Agenda Show. And we kick it off with Amy Hulzing. from Chanhassen, Minnesota 513 let's see what this is about first time donation a switcheroo goes to John the best okay hold on a second switcheroo here switcheroo switcheroo okay so it goes to

1:28:28 John, alright, John Holsing, nice. He'll be happy with that. He's the best husband and 513 was our wedding day. Oh, okay, that's nice. He's the coolest dad and a great business partner. Adam and John, you guys are the best. Wait a minute, are we better than John? Okay. Thanks for keeping me sane in an insane world. I'm covered either way. By the way, she says Steve Bolts is a douchebag. Bols. Douchebag. Sorry? Bols? balls deals of her mom but she's not a car but she didn't ask for karma she just asked for Brian low rants in Hope Dale, Illinois three three four dot twenty Oh No

1:29:18 Please credit this to Shauna, Lowrance. I never realized how bad a douchebag smells until my wife had me de-douched for Christmas. I'm just reading this by the way. Yeah, I love it. Girl, you stank. For the love of God, Adam, please de-douche Shauna. Happy birthday, my love. You've been de-douched. Sounded pretty desperate there. 33420, thank you. Now we have Alex Lesh, L-O-E-S-H-E. I think it's Lesh. It's like Dana Loesch. No, she pronounces it Lesh. She says Loesch, Dana Loesch. Could be Loesch. Alex is from Chicago, 33333. Great newsletter, great sound. Maybe not so today. I'm working on it.

1:30:20 Fellow producers, I will be staying on the Vegas Strip this Thursday through Sunday. Looking at you, Brunetti. I can be reached at MBConBand, that's M-B-C-O-N-N-B-A-N-D, guess he has a band, on Twitter and Insta. My Chicago NA group will vouch for my Lebowski vibe. Love and lit. Alright, love is lit. Love and light. Love is lit. Thank you. You gotta do it, Brunetti. Brunetti lives up in Jefferson. Yeah, he's just, well, you know. Doesn't Brunetti have, doesn't he come down to Vegas from time to time to visit his mom? Sir Kevin Dills doesn't. He's the Duke of North Carolina. He's in Huntersville, North Carolina. 333.33. Great newsletter, John. Wow. More harmonica, please. Thank you. It's interesting. Sir Kevin Dills, Duke of North Carolina. Yeah, it's interesting how I was not able to get to the email to

1:31:17 I helped, you know, John always sends me the newsletter so I can take a look at it for typos. So I didn't do anything on this newsletter and it's now, this never happens, two in a row, great newsletter. Yeah. You probably shouldn't send it to me anymore. I think you're doing the right thing. I think what it was, I'll tell you what it was. I had, it's been months and months since I did a rundown of a bunch of screwball memes and stupid tweets and stuff. And so I did this time. Right. Oh, yes. And people like because it's visual, it's just pictures that look a picture. And so they very happy. And also you get you did contribute because you gave me the hypocrite. Yeah, well, that was one of our producers. Producer Scott, I think, gave that to us. That was very fun. It was great. It was great to end the newsletter with. We are on to Jamie from Chaska, Minnesota. Three thirty three is back.

1:32:13 Dot thirty... dot thirty-three. Jamie Q, yes you're right. In the morning Adam and John switch... switcheroo here donating for my husband Matt. Oh my goodness. Okay, so he's Matt Q I guess. Matt. Matt Q. Alright, he is now. Okay, Matt Q. Wishing him a happy 33rd birthday. He's on the list. Please add him to the birthday list for June 29th. Give him a de-douche. You've been de-douche'd. He hit me in the mouth shortly before the koof and no agenda became my weekly double dose of sanity. I didn't know I needed. Thank you both for producing the best podcast in the universe. Love is lit. Jingles please. Shapeshifting Jews. I got ants. Al Sharpton. Oh my goodness. Resist we much. Gonna need a Bitcoin.

1:33:03 And any karma there? Okay, we'll just leave it at that then. Sounds right.

1:33:45 Onward with Eric, I think it's Kaempema, Kaempema? Kaempema. Kaempema. Kaempema. Kaempema. Vienna, Austria, ah, Austrian, 333.33. In the morning, first time donator and wish to support your excellent breakdown of our propaganda machines. No requests. Your extensive research is reward enough. Friendly greetings, Eric, a Dutch expat living in Vienna, Austria. Yes, and I think it was Eric who sent me a note that in Austria now at night to save on energy costs because it's so outrageous, the cell companies are shutting down some of their frequencies on the towers. Yeah.

1:34:34 Things are looking up. Now I inserted one here because it came in late. She's on the birthday list and she's a long time donor and I broke the rules basically. Dame G Money. And she's gonna get credited again next show because we'll forget. Yeah we will. Dame G Money sent 333.33 and she says I'm really sorry. I know but it's my birthday, it's a show day and now I'm a baroness. It's cause for celebration. Please can I have some goat karma? And of course you can. You've got karma. Damsel of disaster. She's a tireless worker both at home and outside and is also the most courageous and honest person I know she is. I am proud to be her man!

1:35:40 Mary Ann is sending this to celebrate my birthday yesterday 6 6 22 so perhaps this will take me up another notch in the no agenda knighthood hierarchy nothing else required sincere thanks for the show Jim Bob way the Baron of shots at land I Don't think so shots you land. What do you mean? I think he's already up is you moving up the ladder? I think so to do your own accounting let us know I Is this Malt? Maltimicus? Maltmicus? Maltimicus? Maltimicus? Interesting name. He's in Boston, or she. 333 to whom it may concern. Boston, New Jersey. Oh, hello. To whom it may concern, you two saved my sanity during my PhD.

1:36:25 Really now? Please dedouche me. You've been dedouched. My fiance needs emergency job karma. She's stuck in Shanghai and we need to get her out of there. Love is lit from Malta. Oh my goodness. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Sorry. Sorry. You've got karma. Whatever it was, I have to deduce right away. Sorry about that. You've been deduced. It's like not driving a new car, you know? Noah Watermiker in the Baron of Cirquota, the Baron Cirquota of the Sierra Bathel, Bathel, uh, is three rivers, California, 333. I think it's Batholith.

1:37:15 I don't know what it is. I have no idea. Oh. Batholith. Okay, Batholith. Doesn't sound right. Thanks a ton, bros! Relationship karma and any Obama, no Mexican song, hat dance or la cucaracha, I think. ITM! ITM, Noah Watermaker, Baron Sequoia of Sequoia, get it? Sequoia of the Sierra Batholith. Hey! Hey! Listen! No no no no no no no. You're in my house. Hey! Hey! Come on guys! No no no no no no. Shame on you! La la la la la! Hey! La la la la la! Hey! Okay. No no no no no no no. I'm up in the house. Hey! Hey! Breaking the boot! No no no no no no. Once you do the next one, I'll take the long one. Nick Foster and Kearney, Missouri.

1:38:05 333 and he says one thing and one thing only need karma for a big sale. Big sale, big sale. You've got karma. Alright, let us know how that goes. William Levenberg is in Los Angeles, California. Sorry to hear that. 30303, great number. Hey guys, de-douche me immediately! You've been de-douched. Rogan Donator from Adam's first appearance. Millennial listener. Turkish producer. Holy moly, you've got the trifecta. It's pronounced Turkey-eh. Tur like tourism. Key. And then add a Canadian A. Okay. Turkey-eh.

1:38:48 Turkey, eh? You're from Turkey, eh? Yes, I'm from Vancouver. Somehow I'm never... Hey, that guy's from Turkey, eh? Oh my God, that's gonna sound so weird. Turkey, eh? Now it's stuck in my head, I'll never be able to say Turkey again. Turkey, eh? Thank you. Stress the E and roll the R just a smidge. Oh, I'm sorry. Turkey? Turkey, eh? Turkey, eh? Turkey, eh? Turkey, eh? I don't know which E are we supposed to stretch? Turkey, eh? We'll try. It's a nightmare. He even says make Adam read it. John shouldn't be asked to do anything unusual, at least we upset him. I want... Yeah. I want... Don't upset me. Jobs karma. Jews in space. What?

1:39:44 Do we have a Jews in Space thing? I'm unaware of. We had one a long time ago. Jews in Space! I don't think we've had any other Jews in... I don't think we have a jingle of Jews in Space. I think there was one. I mean, you had the magical shape-shifting Jews. No, no, there was Jews in Space. Oh, no, wait a minute. The Jewish space laser, maybe? No. Yeah. Well, the troll room is desperately trying to help. It's... No, I don't think so. You just did it live. That was great. I continue. Do it live? No, hold on. Because he wants jobs, karma, Jews in space. I'm woefully unprepared for this. Biden get vaccinated. Oh, brother, I don't have... That is the hardest one to find now. Do you know how many times Biden vaccinated

1:40:40 Shows up or the two terms by isn't Biden vaccinated and then the ISO no how many ISO knows we have Lots. Yeah, okay. We're continuing my donation digits which was the nice 303 dot o3 are because I'm turning 30 in the 303 dot 3 is a palindrome kinda My amygdala is shrink-wrapped by your golden voices. Certainly the best pod in the firmament, says William Levenberg. Okay, so, we don't have his Jews in Space, but you're gonna do Jews in Space. Okay, I'll open with it. You open with it, and then I'll do his Get Vaccinated, and I'll give him the karma. Okay, let's do it! Jews in Space! Get vaccinated. No. You've got karma. That was good, man.

1:41:33 I'm gonna- And I'm going to mention that I'm not gonna do that again. No, I agree. I don't think it should be repeated. No. Gummy Nerds, Viscount of the Troll Room in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 222.22. Go Packers. Once one's ducks are placed in a row, somehow, ironically, life seems to be a little less quackers. Hey! Now believe you me, as they say, this is no canard. They're just jokes. May we the No Agenda family have a bit of karma please. All the dames and knights, producers and douchebags alike are deserving of it. Love is lit. Troll count gummy nerds. Vi count of the troll room. You've got karma.

1:42:23 Another 222.22 from Karen Smith who's in Kasslo, British Columbia and of course it's not a row of ducks there, it's a row of geese. Thanks so much, she says. Sad puppy got me. Did you roll out the sad puppy? No. I didn't see the puppy. Yeah, but weeks ago. Yeah. You saved my sanity during COVID. I mean it. Karen with an I. You know what? We may be saving your sanity again because there's more to come. None of this is over by a long shot. This is true. Anonymous comes up and finishes off the list of associate executive producers. He's in Clowna, Clowna, Clowna, BC, near Spuzum. 222.22. Anonymous from Canada. 222.22 Canadian. How's buying Karma, please? Got that for you. You've got Karma. And good luck up there in Canada.

1:43:22 And that's it, right? That concludes our group of associate executive producers, executive producers for show 1463. I want to thank each and every one of them making the show a possibility and a reality. As always, a beautiful group of people. Thank you so much for supporting this podcast. It is your podcast. Without you, it wouldn't be here. We need time, talent and treasure. You stepped up and we really appreciate it. These are credits that you can use anywhere. They're official. For 15 years people have been putting these credits on their, well not for 15 years on LinkedIn, but on their blog, in their blog role, in their profile, in their Twitter profile, and of course, you know, put it on IMDB. You can open up an IMDB account with this. If anyone bitches about it, we'll gladly vouch.

1:44:03 If you'd like to become a producer with a NO Agenda show, go here. Thank you again for being the producers of episode 1463! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up! Shut up, snake! Yeah, shut up. Shut up. Now I have a series here we can play because it's a big you're gonna make a big stink out of this. Who, you or they? And that is they, not me. I don't care. But they are, you know who they are, the media. Yeah. And the liberals and the progressives. Yeah. Because Biden is going to Saudi Arabia hat in hand. Yeah, that's right. Those journalist choppers.

1:44:59 The journalist killers. They cut up journos. They chop them into pieces, carry them out in suitcases. Yeah, but now, but it was of course a Washington Post journalist, so. Yeah, so it's like, not really a journalist, but it was a guy that worked there. It was a guy who worked there and he's dead now. He's chopped up in a suitcase. So I want to play this these clips and a couple are very short because there's just some comment that needs to be made. And let's start with Biden to Saudi Arabia. This is NPR. President Biden's upcoming trip to Saudi Arabia next month is already getting a lot of attention. It's for a meeting with Arab leaders, including Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

1:45:37 The Biden administration has blamed the kingdom and particularly the crown prince for human rights abuses, like the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and in the war in Yemen. But now the U.S. needs Saudi Arabia's help. NPR's international affairs correspondent, Jackie Northam, joins us now. Hey, Jackie. Hi, Sue. Jackie, the U.S.-Saudi relationship is nearly eight decades old, but has it ever been as tumultuous as it is right now? Yeah, you're right. I mean this is a really important alliance but it's definitely been strained over the years and you know just for some history the relationship was initially sealed back in 1945 and that was when President Roosevelt met with Saudi King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud who founded the kingdom.

1:46:19 and they met on a warship in the Suez Canal, and it was the first time the king had left Saudi Arabia. And we found some old newsreel footage of that meeting. An American destroyer comes alongside a cruiser in Great Bitter Lake on the Suez Canal in Egypt. It brings Ibn Saud, king of the five million people of Saudi Arabia, to a conference with President Roosevelt. And so the king brought along carpets and dozens of members of the royal court and reportedly a number of sheep to slaughter on board. But you know, the two leaders, they forged a strategic alliance based on security in the region as well as oil. American geologists had already discovered oil in the kingdom a few years earlier. And you know, those two things, regional security and oil, have helped hold the sometimes tenuous relationship between Saudi Arabia and the U.S. together over the years. Yeah, related to our monetary system. I hope that comes up somewhere.

1:47:13 Oh, bah. Oh, bah, humbug. Clip two. Clip two. OK. Can you talk about some of the ways the two countries have cooperated but also clashed over the years? You know, in a lot of practical and security matters, they've worked well together. Remember the first Gulf War? And that was an enormous operation which involved sending thousands of Western soldiers to protect Saudi Arabia's oil fields from being attacked by Iraq. They also work together to drive Russian forces out of Afghanistan. This is kind of weird. Can you talk about some of the ways the two countries have cooperated but also clashed over the years? You know, in a lot of practical and security matters they've worked well together. Remember the first Gulf War and that was an enormous operation which involved sending thousands of Western soldiers to protect Saudi Arabia's oil fields from being attacked by Iraq. They also worked together to drive Russian forces out of Afghanistan. No mention of Yemen.

1:48:21 The first Gulf War was to drive Iraq out of Kuwait. Kuwait, yeah. Not Saudi Arabia. What are they talking about? Well, I guess you could make the argument Kuwait first, then Saudi Arabia, maybe. No, you can't make that argument. They're trying to rewrite history here for some reason. I'm not sure why. The other thing is, what does Saudi Arabia have to do with the situation in Afghanistan? Maybe they sent a couple of troops. A couple people? A couple guys? A couple of guys. A couple of guys named Abdul? Yeah, but wasn't the idea that if they went into Kuwait, once you're in Kuwait, then you can go down to Saudi Arabia. I mean, that Kuwait was kind of the buffer. They were blowing up the wells in Kuwait. Now, I don't hear, I never heard this until now. Honestly, we were still looking for WMD. There's something going on with the narrative. I don't know what it is, but there's something's

1:49:21 I think there's another example coming up. Let's go to clip three. But there've been a lot of disputes. You know, the Saudis imposed the oil embargo in the 1970s, which drove up the price of gas at the pump. Okay, I stopped it there. It was OPEC. It was all of the oil producing economic countries. Yeah, all of them. It was a group of them. It was called OPEC. We remember the OPEC oil embargo. But they're now attributing the whole thing to Saudi Arabia. What kind of reporting is this? Are they trying to confuse us? I don't mind them saying something like that if they can explain why. May I remind you of the acronym NPR, National Public Radio. Even though they're not really running on government money anymore, it's the pipeline. It's how it works. It's how it goes.

1:50:15 They're just toeing the line. There's something going on with the messaging that is kinky and we've gotten three examples so far. I don't know if there's any more, but why are they doing this? What are they trying to get into your brain that is inaccurate so you can maybe better accept this meetup they're gonna have? Is it to accept the meetup or is it to make Biden look even stupider for the meetup. I'm not sure, I think I'm on the fence, I'm on the fence here. You're throwing my own theory at me, but yeah, maybe that's it. Let's go with, now we can wrap it with a couple last clips. And that was over US policy towards Israel. There have been serious breaches in the relationship over extremism and a lot of Saudi money has gone to extremists.

1:50:59 Think of 9-11. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. And you know, there are ongoing concerns in the U.S. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. We're trying to speak truth now. So now they're throwing that rhubarb, which is, yeah, we know that it was a bunch of Saudis, but... But Osama. Now are they making the claims that Saudi was behind it because they stopped all traffic but let the Saudi royal family fly out of the country? Are we going to bring that up again? This is a very... a report that is loaded, loaded with propaganda and misinformation and skewed or re-defined information or

1:51:41 rewritten history. It's hard to, again, you know, there's something up. Let's continue. 9-11, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. And, you know, there's ongoing concerns in the U.S. about the Saudi-led war in Yemen and certainly human rights abuses, including the treatment of women. You were in Saudi Arabia early on as Mohammed bin Salman emerged as the power in the kingdom. While his father, King Salman, has aged. What kind of impression has he made? Well, at the beginning he was like a breath of fresh air in the kingdom. He introduced all sorts of changes, including allowing women to drive. And that was about the time that I was there. It was back in 2018. You know, there was a lot of excitement at that time, but there were also dark undertones and it became apparent very quickly that MBS, the crown prince,

1:52:29 Brooke, no dissent. He would crush any sort of criticism, including throwing activists in prison for speaking out against him or what he was doing. And then, of course, Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed later in 2018 and it caused outrage across the world. How did that affect the U.S.-Saudi relationship? Well, you're right. The killing made the Crown Prince really, for a short time anyway, an international pariah. U.S. intelligence determined that the Crown Prince was involved in Khashoggi's death by Saudi operatives. Now at the time, Trump was president. Wait a minute, who did she say determined that? Well, you're right. The killings made the Crown Prince really, for a short time anyway, an international pariah. US intelligence determined that the Crown Prince was involved in Khashoggi's death by Saudi operatives. Now at the time, Trump was president and he had created a very warm relationship with the Crown Prince. And he questioned the CIA's finding. Here he is here. The CIA has looked at it. They've studied it a lot.

1:53:31 They have nothing definitive. There's a stark difference, though, between the Trump and the Biden White House when it comes to the crown prince. Right. I mean, when he was campaigning for president, Biden harshly criticized the crown prince. Here he is. And I would make it very clear we were not going to, in fact, sell more weapons to them. We were going to in fact make them pay the price and make them in fact the pariah that they are. There's very little social redeeming value of the in the present government in Saudi Arabia. Orange man bad brother. They brought him in. They brought him in. They got from Trump in. Way to go. There's one last clip, but I want to say that now Biden's going there and you're going to throw this in his face. He's going to have to strip or something when he's there.

1:54:21 Now what what exactly I mean do you think he's really going over there to say? Is this a real diplomatic mission because obviously the entire diplomatic world is laughing their ass off at this because everybody knows what's going on Everybody knows that it's useless. Well, what's he gonna go over there and do? He's got to go over there, beg him to crank out the oil a little bit so he can, you know, he's out of control. But would it even make any difference at that point? I mean, how... I doubt it. I doubt it too. I think they'd have to crank it up quite a bit. And I don't even think... It's still... It's not even that. It's the ships. The whole thing is falling apart. It gets backed up and you're in trouble. Let's listen to this.

1:55:01 The final part of this. So why then is Biden going to Saudi Arabia now? Oil. You know, Biden wants the crown prince to raise oil production, you know, to help lower the price at the gas pumps here in the U.S. But there are other reasons. Saudi Arabia is courting relations with both Russia and China. And also there's still an interest in maintaining a solid and cohesive front against Iran, and the US needs Saudi Arabia to help with that. And does the Crown Prince have any asks of the US? Well, US weapons for a start. Some weapons sales were suspended over concerns about the Saudi-led war in Yemen.

1:55:37 The Saudis also want security guarantees. The kingdom feels it doesn't have enough backing from the U.S. when it's come under attack from Iran or Iranian militias. You know, the crown prince is also looking to build up his relationship. He's traveling the region, he's making deals, and a meeting with President Biden would be important to help rebuild his reputation. So is the world just supposed to forget about the killing of Jamal Khashoggi? No, and you know President Biden is facing a lot of criticism by human rights groups and members of Congress for making this trip to the kingdom. Human Rights Watch said Biden should get commitments on

1:56:14 on human rights before he does travel to Saudi Arabia. You know, but the fact is the Crown Prince is really the de facto leader of Saudi Arabia and will likely be around for several decades. What will be interesting to see is if, you know, the two men shake hands during this meeting later in July. Okay, now I understand. They're just going to shake hands. Nothing else will come out of this. Nothing. I wonder if they're gonna shake hands. If Biden shakes his hand after all that he said, he's gonna eat it from the left. Yeah, and how about, I mean, should we be afraid for his actual safety? I mean, he... I think we should always be afraid of his safety, but mostly going up and down the stairway. So this...

1:57:02 Well, we have a real problem, a global problem with energy and with inflation. I didn't know, by the way, and I'll come back to the energy prices, I did not know that the government or was it the I guess the Federal Reserve in 2021 allowed banks to take their reserves, which I think were typically 5% or 10%. You have to have at least 5% or 10% of the actual cash on hand in case people wanted to withdraw their money. They put those down to zero. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. It was on like zero hedge all of a sudden. Oh, okay. That makes sense. That could be a little interesting. I want my money out of here. Well, we haven't got any money. What do you do with my money? Yeah, go to the Federal Reserve, ask those guys.

1:57:56 Because of inflation and obviously the green new deal great reset Everybody drive electric all the end, you know, no Investment ESG all of this crap that is causing these prices to rise Here's the result in the United States. What happens when important emergency services? It already spread thin from a couple years of the pandemic can't even afford to fill up their tanks. I becoming a bigger problem forcing some fire departm limit the kinds of calls high cost of fuel isn't j more expensive. It's also in smaller communities to not responding to non eme

1:58:42 building inspections and Today, the average cost o gas in the U. S. At a whop price tag expected to cli months. The surge impacti too, but not in the same way. I spoke with departments across the country who told me they're already having to or will have to make big sacrifices to offset the cost of gas. We've never seen costs like this since I've been sheriff. We're at 100% usage of our allotted fuel budget for this budget year already. I'm worried about the state of emergency response agencies throughout the nation. One of the things we're doing today is we call it no dry Friday.

1:59:22 So the crews aren't really allowed to leave the station unless it's an emergency. We're also trying to reduce the number of vehicles that we send on an emergency response. Decreased spending purchasing new equipment or possibly some of our maintenance items for the year. Those pre-disaster or pre-emergency activities that are labeled as non-emergency. We're predicting a minimum of an $800,000 to $1 million countywide fleet vehicle increase in the fuel costs. And that cost is going to be astronomical. So emergency services just shutting down. This is the new normal for everybody. Yeah, well, they've never done, haven't been doing a good job recently anyway, but okay. What do you mean they haven't been doing a good job? Well, I've heard there was some situation in Texas and people hanging up the 911 call. I don't care. And they're hanging up.

2:00:15 But this is because of the gas price they can't go out. That's a little different than Austin, I think is what you're referring to. Uvalde. It looks like... where is this starting? You know, of course we've told that the best thing is to use an electric vehicle. I think this is... is this in the UK? Yeah, in the UK. No, is it the UK? Yes, the UK has... I like this.

2:00:52 They have a change they're implementing for regulations for charging of electric vehicles, and that goes into effect Thursday. Charging points in Britain will now have to have a data connection. which of course will measure, record and transmit usage of your energy. But it also must be able to delay charging or slow it down during periods of high grid demand. So that's the freedom that I've always been talking about with electric vehicles, is they have you by the balls. They have you by the balls. Yeah, I think that's true. It's so stupid. And it's so obvious that that was going to happen.

2:01:38 The Netherlands... Charge at midnight, charge at midnight people. We've talked about the Netherlands, about the nitrogen crisis that was brewing. If you remember the farmers when they did their first big demonstration, their first big protest with the tractors, the Dutch kind of led the way in that and then Germany came later and France. Yeah. So now the Minister of Nitrogen and Nature, oh yeah, could it be more Orwellian? The Minister of Parliament of Nature, I think it's Nitrogen and Nature, has decided without the support of voters

2:02:19 who actually are not for this, has said, well, you know, I'm really sorry that this is not what the country wants. She's elected as a representative. I'm sorry this is not what the country wants, but, you know, I accepted this career And I just have to do what's best for the Netherlands. And that means that by 2030, 50% of all farms that raise livestock have to be gone. Ah, the vegans at work. Eight years. No, no, it's not. It's because of nitrogen, you see. Yeah, that's right. Sure. And the farmers are going, what? 50%. That's quite a lot.

2:03:05 Get rid of the beef. And I think part of it is because the Netherlands is leading now in the fake food industry, Royal DSM, which you might have, back in the day, you might have even bought options or sold options on Royal DSM. They're a very popular company for people to invest in. They went from a chemical company, Pure Chemicals, to the largest taste and texture producer of plant and soy based foods. Yeah, still pure chemicals. Yeah, over 8 billion euros a year. And I think the Dutch are on deck to just eat more of this shit. Yum. Well, this can't be worse than that buried fish that they eat in those countries. The what?

2:03:53 The fish, they get that fish, you know, it's like a herring or something, they bury it for like six months and it comes up rotten and you eat it. Mmm, yum. I don't know what you're talking about. Somebody in the chat room, tell him what I'm talking about. There's no fish that you cover up for six months. And eat it, rotten. You may be confused with Denmark or something, has nothing to do with the Netherlands. So we have those issues with energy and with inflation, and then of course we have the entire workforce and the entire transportation industry is changing around us.

2:04:29 It's noticed. Okay, I can tell you now the breaking news is that British Airways workers have voted yes to strike action. 95% said yes and there was an 81% turnout. So the inevitable strike action looks like it potentially will go ahead. There will be a few meetings between now and whatever proposed date is put forward by the unions. Most likely they will target the summer holidays, so possibly the end of July and into August. They want maximum disruption of course But they say don't blame the workers, blame British Airways. Their dispute is over a 10% pay cut that British Airways check-in staff and ground staff here at Heathrow

2:05:10 during the pandemic which is yet to be reinstated. They argue that bosses at British Airways have had their 10% pay cut reinstated to pre-COVID levels and they want this say and they say it's not fair in fact they are described as being furious at this. There you go. Well there's also rail strikes I have the clip of rail strikes in the UK. Okay what's wrong with this place? Well, this is unions and I think that's what's really taking over is, let me see, rail strikes. Would it be under rail? Yes, it would be. Across Britain, a third day of rail strikes has left train stations almost empty. Train companies have said only a fifth of passenger services would be up and running. About 40,000 cleaners, signalers, maintenance workers and station staff have not reported for work in a repeat of strikes on Tuesday and Thursday.

2:06:07 The job action is a direct result of inflationary pressures as rail workers seek higher wages. The core issues are not only pay but also working conditions and jobs. The train companies are looking at reductions in personnel and costs after the punishing year of the pandemic in which emergency government funding was crucial. Same happening in Sydney. Sydney commuters have been warned of possible widespread disruptions to train services next week after the government cancelled a key post-budget meeting with unions. Ministers were supposed to hold talks for the rail, tram and bus union this morning. The union has raised safety concerns about the intercity fleet, claiming guards can't see properly out of the new trains to give platforms feel clear. The rail, tram and bus union has threatened to escalate industrial action next week, accusing the government of using stalling tactics.

2:07:00 The intercity fleet arrived more than two years ago and has been sitting in sheds costing taxpayers $30 million a month. So this is all unions though. Wait, wait. What? This is the government is using what tactics? Storm tactics? What did she say? Using stalling tactics. Stalling. Stalling. Stalling. Accusing the government of using stalling tactics. Yeah, stalling. Yeah, stalling tactics. Stalling. But this is unions. The unions. And I think, to me it sounds like the unions are in on something. Well maybe that's going to happen here then because Joe Biden's pro-union. Well, we got to... In fact he made a big fuss about when Apple was union.

2:07:42 He said, yeah, good. Go union, you Applers. Yep. Well, there's staffing issues are also forcing American Airlines to stop service to three small airports. The airline tells us it's all because of the shortage of pilots at regional airlines which fly for major hubs to small cities. Effective in September, forward based American is going to stop flying to Toledo, Ohio, Ithaca, New York and Islip, New York on Long Island. I didn't even know you could fly to those places. Well, you know now that you can't. Well, that's all regional though. And when you shut down regional routes, so they contract with a regional carrier, they slap American Airlines on the aircraft and they fly those routes. When you do that, and then they have, it's a domino effect.

2:08:28 I know a little bit about the aviation system. This is not, this is going downhill. It's really a problem. This clip, you can add onto your clippage. This is the flight delays skirmish clip. Skirmish? Oh goodness. After widespread flight delays and cancellations blamed on bad weather and pilot shortages, Buddha Judge met virtually with airline CEOs last week, telling them to make sure their flight schedules realistically reflect their staffing levels the rest of the summer. Now the industry group Airlines for America says air traffic control staffing shortages may be responsible for a third of those recent flight disruptions and it's asking Buttigieg to ensure that the FAA has adequate controller staffing ahead of the busy 4th of July holiday weekend.

2:09:14 The FAA says it has acted on the issues raised by the airlines and fired back saying after receiving $54 billion in pandemic relief to help save the airlines, the American people deserve to have their expectations met. Okay, Pete. Mayor Pete? Yes. He probably said something like, well, FAA, that's federal communications. I don't understand what they have to do with it. States are trying to bring some relief. Time to check the polls so we begin with a little relief in the checkout line. Several states are suspending their grocery tax as Americans struggle with inflation. Beginning July 1st, Illinois is eliminating its grocery tax for an entire year. Virginia is doing the same beginning next year and Kansas is planning to gradually phase out its tax on groceries bringing it to zero by 2025.

2:10:11 You know, we got a note from one of our producers about the Union Pacific issue, which is, you know, they cut back 20% on pilot and Flying J's delivery of the diesel exhaust fluid, the DEF, and also on some diesel. You correctly stated that it's common carrier, and why would they be doing this? Do you remember this? Oh yeah. Well, if you look at Union Pacific's website, they're doing this because of ESG. They need to hit their environmental social governance goals and this is their solution. And they're pointing the finger at these rating agencies. It's very unclear who's in charge of measuring this ESG, but that's where it's coming from. They're saying it right there on their website.

2:11:08 That's pretty interesting, but that's a good catch. I mean this is let me see Yes, the private credit reporting agencies we're doing this this is one of our producers sent me some of this here Yeah, ESG score 51. Oh, no who does this SPG global calm. Well there you go Look into them Well, let's see about Who were they a part of? Oh, they're just brand new. They're part of the S&P. Sure. Wait a minute. S&P Global True Cost. Okay, so maybe they're part of S&P. I mean, these are the same guys. Sign it off. But these are the same guys. Yeah, the same outfits that said, oh, don't worry, these collateralized loans, these are all great for the house. Yeah, the house collateralized loans. Hey, AAA for you. Collapsed the economy in 2008 completely. Everybody gets a AAA.

2:12:10 And Europe is incredibly screwed, but I think I have an idea as to why Queen Ursula of the European Union is saying that, well she said, hydrogen, we're pretty sure she meant hydrogen, said hydrogen is the future of Europe. She said hydrogen. She said hydrogen, you remember that. Saved your butt. What do you mean? Oh nothing, go on. You were saying it a lot and you were actually now it turns out you were right. No, I was saying it after she said it. Yeah, well continue. I'm sorry, you interrupted the flow. You did. So I've been curious as to what hydrogen is going to be implemented in Germany and here it is, Siemens Energy.

2:12:55 is they started production of hydrogen electrolyzers in Berlin. They will have their first gigawatt production at the multi-gigawatt factory starting next year. And here's how it works. They create electrolysis with renewable sources. So I guess solar and wind, they're going to use that. And then with that, they generate electricity and then they stick that electricity into water, the hydrolysis takes place, hydrogen comes free and then they store that and they say that that is the future and it's going to be great.

2:13:35 Does this make any sense to you? Well, it's only in one, I mean, in one sense it makes no sense, which is, you know, you're generating electricity to make hydrogen so it can make electricity. Why don't you just use the original electricity? But on the other sense, which I think is what they're trying to say, which is they're making the electricity with the wind power and the rest of it, and then the hydrogen is being used to store, to store its value. value for use when there's no wind. And how would you store that? How would you store the hydrogen? But then how do you turn that hydrogen into electricity again? Fuel cells.

2:14:14 Fuel cells or do you burn it in a turbine? Well, you could do that too. There's lots of ways. I think that's what they're planning on. I think they're saying that they're going to have turbines. So they're using the hydrogen instead of batteries as the storage for the excess power during the peak moments. Proton exchange membrane electrolysis. Yeah. Fuel cell. That's fuel cell? No. Well, good luck to that. I mean, it would have been nicer if they had ran it parallel for a little while, you know, doesn't that seem like the way to go? It's like, hey, we'll have this and we'll just figure that it works. Check it out and use little bits and pieces. It works. It works. We use hope. It's hope. We hope it works. Uh-huh. Call back to the beginning of the show.

2:15:07 Alright, do we need to talk about Russia and Ukraine at all? I have one Ukraine clip if you want to play it. Yeah, I have the same here. Actually, I have 15 seconds so I'll play it first. Overseas, a symbolic win for Ukraine. It's been granted candidate status by the European Union. Full membership could be decades away, but Russia called Ukraine's new designation hostile. It came as the US announced a new $450 million military aid package. What? Another package? Yeah, another 450. Another package? Yeah, another one. Holy crap! Where's this money coming from? Have you checked your wallet?

2:15:46 By the way, interesting how it's a win for Ukraine. It's a win because I think your clip shows they're losing. Russian forces have now taken full control in the eastern city of Severodonetsk following weeks of heavy fighting. And here's Greg Myre reports. It's part of Russia's bigger effort to take over all of eastern Ukraine. But Ukrainian officials said Friday their remaining troops pulled out of a chemical plant, the last piece of territory they held. The Ukrainians now acknowledge the Russians are in full control of the city and have authority over the civilians who are unable or unwilling to leave. Severodonetsk is on the east bank of a river and Russia is already bombarding a sister city on the west bank of the river. More heavy fighting is expected. I think it's time for them to do a deal.

2:16:46 They should have done a deal a month ago. Yeah, but it seems like this is now it's done, right? I mean, they're not gonna move any further towards Kiev. Of course, they just wanted these areas to begin with. It's almost a carbon copy of what happened in Georgia. And Georgia is possibly up again, I hear. Well, they're talking about, you know, they're just doing it to irk Russia. Well, we'll see about Georgia. I don't have anything else about Ukraine. I've got something on the Natsa delay. Okay, Natsa? Which I think is funny for the dude's name Ben out there because it's like, it's an eye roller. What is Natsa? National... No, it's actually NASA but the woman on NPR...

2:17:32 pronounces it Natsa. Okay. Along with this one, she's a weekend woman and she mispronounces a lot of stuff. Wait a minute, she doesn't know that Nasa is Nasa? She is in, I mean of all the Ts that are being dropped in today's world? I didn't see that she said, everyone else drops a T, she adds them. Randomly. Hold on, let me start it again. NASA is delaying a mission to an asteroid because of a software problem. The mission had been planned for this fall, but the state agency says that the software has not been tested properly because it missed its expected delivery date. NPR's Jeff Brumfield has more. What? The roughly $1 million mission is called Psyche. It's traveling to an asteroid with the same name that orbits between Mars and Jupiter.

2:16:46 They should have done a deal a month ago. Yeah, but it seems like this is now it's done, right? I mean, they're not gonna move any further towards Kiev. Of course, they just wanted these areas to begin with. It's almost a carbon copy of what happened in Georgia. And Georgia is possibly up again, I hear. Well, they're talking about, you know, they're just doing it to irk Russia. Well, we'll see about Georgia. I don't have anything else about Ukraine. I've got something on the Natsa delay. Okay, Natsa? Which I think is funny for the dude's name Ben out there because it's like, it's an eye roller. What is Natsa? National... No, it's actually NASA but the woman on NPR...

2:17:32 pronounces it Natsa. Okay. Along with this one, she's a weekend woman and she mispronounces a lot of stuff. Wait a minute, she doesn't know that Nasa is Nasa? She is in, I mean of all the Ts that are being dropped in today's world? I didn't see that she said, everyone else drops a T, she adds them. Randomly. Hold on, let me start it again. NASA is delaying a mission to an asteroid because of a software problem. The mission had been planned for this fall, but the state agency says that the software has not been tested properly because it missed its expected delivery date. NPR's Jeff Brumfield has more. What? The roughly $1 million mission is called Psyche. It's traveling to an asteroid with the same name that orbits between Mars and Jupiter.

2:18:15 The asteroid is made of metal, and it might teach researchers more about the metallic core of planets, including the Earth. It was set to launch this fall, but critical software was delivered late and has not been properly tested. Lori Leshin is director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which oversees the mission. Delaying is very disappointing, but it is the right decision to ensure the Psyche mission is a success. NASA says it is now looking at whether it can reschedule the launch for next year. I didn't really hear her say NASA. You know, I would listen to this clip when you play it through this system. I can't hear it either, but I can tell it's one of those blue dress, uh, gold dress things. It's in the beginning, right? Right in the beginning? The first thing she says is NASA. NASA is delaying a mission. Hmm. It comes, it's clear, it gets muddy. I don't know what happened. I'm sorry. She's not saying, she's just saying NASA. You're hearing things.

2:19:08 I'm hearing things, you said nasty, I tell ya. You gotta be careful. I'm hearing things. You're hearing things and airline pilots are seeing things. This morning, yet another sighting of an unidentified person wearing a jet pack flying high above the Los Angeles area about 15 miles from LAX. The strange sight detailed through air traffic control audio between an American Airlines pilot and an airport dispatcher. No word on the identity of the makeshift air traveler, but it's not the first sighting of its kind.

2:19:53 Back in December, another American Airlines pilot on a training flight captured this video of what appeared to be someone wearing a jetpack flying just a few miles from the airport. But the video was dismissed as a balloon that looked like a guy with a jetpack. And just a few months earlier, last August, multiple pilots reported some kind of high-flying hazard in the sky. We just saw the guy test his flight. A person in a jetpack reported 300 yards south of the LA final at about 3,000 feet. Jetpack technology is out there with sightings at the Statue of Liberty and in the UK where the Royal Navy's been developing and testing a jet suit for boarding enemy ships. But experts say operating a makeshift jetpack near commercial flights could spell disaster. The size weight of a person in a jetpack impacting an airplane at the exact wrong spot could potentially bring that airliner down. People need to fly them in a responsible way.

2:20:51 The FAA says it has worked closely with the FBI to investigate every reported jetpack sighting and so far no sightings have been verified. Okay, now first of all I want one of these. Oh you want to be at 5,000 feet? No, no that was number two, number two. I believe the report said he was going eastbound. So he's no pilot because as far as I know you gotta be on the odd numbers going eastbound. So he should be at 3500 or 5500. You have a real good chance of getting someone smashing right into your head at that level because that's how it's arranged eastbound, westbound in the United States. 4500 feet? Maybe he was climbing. This is not some experimental rig. That's really, that's high.

2:21:46 People have no idea that's for just being in the elements in your jet pack. I mean, do you think you want one? Oh, yeah. I'm not going to fly at forty five hundred feet. But OK, what are you going to fly it at? I fly it at five hundred, five hundred to seven fifty helicopter. Five hundred. Be right over my head. Well, that's what helicopters fly. They fly five hundred to seven fifty. So you're five hundred feet. Now, where are you going to go to Austin? Yes. To Austin. To the to do the Beck show. You're going to fly over to the Beck Studios and the jetpack. I don't know how fast the jetpack goes but that's a five hour drive so if I could cut it down that'd be great but I don't think this thing will have the endurance. I don't think it'll make it to Austin. I'd like to know why is this why is this so... who's doing this? Someone's flying these things. Yeah somebody's making them.

2:22:35 Whatever homebrew whatever it is. I at least want to try flying one. That would be fun I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun What I expect to hear is oh Let's think a few people never gets old John never gets old Charles Kylie or Kyle I guess in Mount Airy, Maryland 14630. He wants some house karma, we'll give it to him at the end. Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire. 122.22. Goat karma, we'll give you that at the end. Eric Johnson in Lincoln, Nebraska. 8008. Yeah, the boobs. It's a birthday boobs. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Duke of Luna, lover of America, lover of boobs in Locust, North Carolina. 8008.

2:23:41 Cone... Cone... What is this? Cone Monster. Cone Monster. Cone Monster. Cone Monster in Rotterdam. Rotterdam, Netherlands. 666.66. He's got a knighthood announcement. You want to read the parts of it that are important? Yes. Finally I reached knighthood. Long desired status as a helicopter pilot. Ooh, AW139. It's a big pilot. A big pilot. Big, big copter. For the police, I used your media deconstruction to guide my colleagues through the pandemic and onward. Well, how about that? That's cool. I became the guy who shines a light on the other side of the story. Often I was asked how I knew all of this. Of course, I credited your show, but I doubt it made them actually listen to the show themselves. It was way easier just to ask Monster. Anyway, next to my job I enrolled in law school at the Erasmus University of Rotterdam. I came to the conclusion we actually know nothing about our rights. No kidding! You're at the right show once again.

2:24:39 He says anyway back to the round table. He'd like to have the nicest whiskey. He knows of Iran Amarone cask finish are you familiar with this with this whiskey? Well, it's I think is referring to Amarone the Amarone. Okay cask they're using No, I think it's like from Lebanon maybe or something. It's the nicest whiskey he knows. It's the nicest whiskey he knows. So maybe you should try this out. He may be on to something. I don't know. I'm sure it's a good one. When I see it, I'll buy it. Night name, Sir Monster. Keep up the good work. Thank you very much, Kuhn. We will see you at the round table in a few minutes.

2:25:22 Chris Deamo in Worcester, Massachusetts. 6006, please dedouche me. You've been dedouched. David Zawaslak in Main Township, Illinois. 6006, small boobs, dedouche me. You've been dedouched. Daniel Konderman in Edgerton, Wisconsin, $60. He says, you guys rock. We were watching the fall of Rome together. Jeff Kett in Niagara Falls, Ontario, $5, $6, $7, $8, one of my favorites. James Dowsett in Hoxne, Suffolk, UK, $10.

2:26:13 56. Here's an issue. He believes that he has now made it to $2,000 total without putting himself towards knighthood and he wants to rectify it and this is not on the list and not highlighted. Was this missed do you think? I think it's because of the quizzical nature. Quizzical nature? What do you mean quizzical? Can I be No, he says that's his, he wants his knight name. He says with this payment... All right, let's put him on. Okay. It doesn't seem like a quizzical nature to me. He's saying can I... No, he asked a question. Without a question, Mark, that seems quizzical. He says with this payment, I've made myself toward knighthood $2,000 without ever being knighted. I would like to rectify this. Then he says, can I be Sir James? Goes on the list. Okay, put him in. He wants a shout out.

2:27:11 To Lumi and the Nerd Game Gang, thank you for your courage. Can I get some job karma please and maybe a few lesser heard jingles of your choice? Love and Lit. I guess we have to do that. No, I can't do it now. This is all messed up. Sir James. I'll continue as you write that stuff down. Thank you. Kevin Benson in North Mead, New South Wales, 5555. David West, 5510 in Puto, Hutto, Texas. David Wicker in Jacksonville, Florida. Travel Karma, you get that at the end. John Gaynor, $52.80. Christopher Pike, $51 in Garrard, Kansas. Nicole Schreck.

2:27:57 Shrek, yeah. Combined locks. Wisconsin. Jeez. It sounds like her name is spelled like the ogre in Shrek. And she needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Helene Janssen in Rotterdam, Netherlands. 50, and these are all 50, let's do the $50 donors, name and location if applicable. Jack Schofield in Yankertown. You know about the Yankertown or Yankee Town? Yeah, I've heard, yeah, I heard what happened. Yankee Town, not Yankee Town. Oh, Yankee Town, no, that's different. Yankeertown is for the Mets and this is for the Yankees. It's very different, yes. Shane Morrison in Clark, New Jersey. Douglas Ellis in New York City. Jesus Allen up there in Austin, Texas, your friend.

2:28:47 Shana Norberg in Seattle, Washington. Josh Springer in Indianapolis, Indiana. Pamela Niemann in Amsterdam. Andrew Butterfield in Bettendorf, Iowa. Mary Kiley in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Scott McCarty in Lodi, California. Steven Crummey in El Cajon, California. William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware. Danielle First in Kau-Kauna, Wisconsin. And last but not least, Dame Knight in Edmonds, Washington. Thank you to those people for helping us out on show 1463. It's very appreciated. Yes, it definitely is. And let me see, circling back. I'm circling back. I'm doing just like Psen. This is Psaki, Psen Psaki. Who was it? Was it Kevin?

2:29:39 Who is it? Yes, no James. James Dowsett. Dowsett. Dowsett. Dowsett. And he wanted a Jobs Karma so I'll give him that one. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs and Jobs. Let's vote for Jobs! You've got Karma. And thank you everybody who supported the show. These producers came in over $50, under $50 for reasons of anonymity. We don't mention any of that. But also that's where lots of people are on our sustaining donations. There are monthlies, recurring. You can actually set it up yourself, do whatever you want, any number. That is the whole idea of Value for Value. You give whatever, no matter how much or how little, it's the value you can afford.

2:30:21 Currently 4% of all listeners are producers and actually do that. It's pretty low. But it keeps us alive and we do appreciate what everybody is doing. If you'd like to learn how to become a producer, go here. Dvorak.org slash N-A. It's a birthday party on Nova Janda. We've got birthdays here. Jim Bobway, Baron of Shots. Nazi Land, celebrated on June 6th, so a little bit late on that. Circumvent the Law says happy birthday to Dame G Money, it's her birthday today. Eric Johnson, his brother Chris, turns 45, turned 45 yesterday. Jamie Q, happy birthday to her husband Matt Q. Q is back, 33 on the 29th. Brian Lawrence says happy birthday to his wife Shauna, and we say happy birthday to all of these fine producers on behalf of the No Agenda Show.

2:31:15 It's your birthday, yeah! Yeah, so all of a sudden we went from almost nothing to two changes here. We've got Sir Slarty Bartfast who becomes a baronet today. We congratulate him with that. And Dame G. Money becomes a baroness and she will henceforth be known as the Baroness of North Texas Hill Country. Congratulations to you and happy birthday Dame G. Money and thank you very much for your Enduring support. So now we have two knights. We need them up on stage and get a little blade-age going here. Get a blade. Do you have a blade? John? Oh, I'm stuck. Oh. Okay, there it is. How beautiful. Up on the podium, please!

2:32:06 Koon Monster and James Dowsett. Gentlemen, both of you supported the Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. We are very proud to bring you here on the lecta up on the podium so that we can give you your props. Here you go. I hereby pronounce the Kate the Sir Monster and Sir James Knight of the Scrubland. Gentlemen, for you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. Of course, we have a special request for Aran Amaroni Cask Finish Whiskey. We got warm beer and cold women up here as well. If you want some Harlots and Howl Doll, we got that on deck. We got Geishas and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong hits and Bourbon, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Mutton and Mead is always that last one that people like to have. And once again, I see you sipping on the mead. No, I have not yet been to the...

2:32:49 Hill Country Mead works, but I hope to do that soon. Once I get this sound right, then I'll go and check out some mead. I'll make it sound even better. Go tomorrow. Thank you very much. Go to noagendanation.com slash rings. Give us all the information that you have, particularly where we can send the ring and your ring size, and you too will be able to go to the next meetup and proudly display your knight status. Thank you very much for supporting the NOA Agenda Show. Okay, we have two reports. The first one from Redmond, Oregon, a meetup which enjoyed a lovely crowd and bright sunny skies on Saturday the 25th according to Bethany who organized this in Redmond. Thank you to Seth, Sir Earthbound Astronaut for hosting and a special... oh, they hosted... and a special thanks to some of the Oregon Local 33 crew

2:33:41 that drove out from Portland and that was at the Mecca Grande Brewery Tasting Room in Madras, Oregon. Hairball Rocks Whisko, they had a meetup as well that was on the 23rd in Oshkosh and whoa man, they had 26 producers in attendance, some familiar faces, some new. If you're thinking about going, say Dank Steady and Mrs. Dank Steady. You've got to go our no agenda tribe is filled with amazing people and if hairball is heading to a stage near you just go and rock out the band puts on an amazing show I guess they had a meetup around the the band hairball rock band hairball, I guess Here's a report from Las Yesterday everybody. It's Leo Bravo at no agenda meetup number 29. I'm gonna pass the phone around let anybody

2:34:33 well you know say whatever they want to say. Hey John and Adam this is Steven from the Orange Curtain I am the hydrogen guy. This is Dame Swaggerpants from behind the Orange Curtain and my husband is the hydrogen guy. In the morning it's predicate with the smoking hot wife Trish the dish. Boom shakalaka. Boom shakalaka. This is Wa Thwee Woo the The Democrats of the party is slavery and they want their slaves back and they don't care about skin color this time. Haroldine from Whittier, I am a producer and I'm not Mark Tanner. This is Angie representing the ranch in the morning. In the morning. MKUltra, word of the year is abortion.

2:35:17 Good morning, how are you both? Thank you very much Leo Bravo. Here's what's coming up if you are thinking of checking out any meetups today. A couple of them are already underway. Buffalo, New York, Michigan Local 1, the Crossroads of America, No Agenda Tribal Redux also underway, the Summertime at Livins Easy Piney Woods. That actually is underway as well, so my goodness. And at 7.30, oh this is probably underway as well, the Not a Russian Oligarch Yacht Meetup in France, Sir Brian of London there in the south of France on a catamaran. So since those are all happening, let me give you a quick overview of what's happening July 1st, Oregon Local 33, New Orleans, Louisiana, on the 2nd Cocoa, Florida, on the 9th Brockport, New York, Uxbridge, Ontario, Berlin, Germany, Hallo Deutschland!

2:36:11 On the 10th of July, Arlington, Virginia. Plainfield, Illinois. 16th, Anchorage, Alaska. Good, it's time they did another one up there. Fresno, California. St. Louis, Missouri. On the 20th, Columbus, Ohio. On the 21st, Charlotte, North Carolina. Toronto, Ontario. On the 23rd, Albany, Oregon. On the 30th, Honolulu. They've got some meetups going on there as well. The 31st, Arlington, Washington, back on the 31st, Victoria, BC, August 2nd, Wild Kill, New York, August 4th. It's a bonanza. You must go to one of these. If you can't find one near you, start one, please. NoagendaMeetups.com. Always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. Triggered or held lame.

2:37:00 You wanna be where everybody feels the same. Bye, Kappa. Alright. I see you have a couple of ISOs for our show this beautiful Sunday. I have three. Okay. But how many do you have? I have... Let me see... One, two, three... I have four. And I have really three. Really three. Alright, play your three. Okay. I have... We didn't play the clip actually. This is a Roe v. Wade related clip of Maxine Waters. You ain't seen nothing yet! Buddy. This one, obvious one. Q is back! What did he say? What did he say? You heard the whole clip before. Q is back! Q is back. Q is back, okay. Yeah. And then this is my favorite. Don't block me, John C. It's cute.

2:38:09 Alright, well I have a Roe v. Wade. I guess you have something really good. No, no. I got something that... They're good enders. I don't know if it's good as that. But I got a Roe v. Wade one too. My Body? Ooh, hold on a second. My Body? My Body, my choice! My Body, my choice! A little long. Three seconds. Okay, well let's try this one. Uh... What Show? I don't even know what show we're doing. Wait, is that Glenn Beck? I don't even know what show we're doing. Who is that? It's Fletcher. Really? I don't even know what show we're doing. Sorry Fletch, you sound like Glenn Beck. I don't know if that's good or bad news. Fletcher's got a fabulous voice. He does. And that guy is what? It is what it is. Hmm. I like the is it is what it is, but personally I think Q is back!

2:39:06 I think you don't like you was back. No, it sounds like Jew is back. That's the reason I don't like it So I had so much trouble understanding it. Oh, that's on you brother I don't know what's up with that. I thought you liked a little kid. Yeah, you liked a little kid nothing You did I did but you know, I have the feeling you didn't Because you always get mad when, you know, it's about you. Don't block me, Josie! I think it's super cute, but, you know, I'm a little gun shy. I'm thinking, you know, you don't like it. You don't like the people mixing about you. You think you're being the brunt of jokes, where it's really just love and respect from six-year-olds. Well, there's that one. I like that one. I also like the Fletcher one. You can play them back to back. Back to back? Oh. Play them. Oh, you can't play these. No, this is too... Okay.

2:40:03 This is... this is too... I don't even know what show we're doing. Don't block me, John C! No, I think we just leave it with, Don't block me, John C. That's the clearest one. I'm good with it. The best one. Despite your accusations. I'm just repeating what you said. You said you didn't like the end- I must have a screw loose. You said you didn't like the end of show mix because it was about you blocking people. Okay. Ready? Yeah, I got lots of stuff left. I'm waiting for you. Well, I want to get the Iran deal out of the way. We have that done. Oh, no, forget it. Let's play. I've decided to do a new segment. What is white privilege according to people who think they have it? Oh, goodness. Do I do it? Is this an Ask Adam?

2:41:03 No, it's not an ask-anim. It's just, you know, it turns out that a lot of white people go around saying, I got white privilege. And then it's like, what is white privilege to you? Well, some people seem to ask it because the NPR people say, what is white privilege to you? And they answer. So let's start with these. It's a two-parter. One is they ask the question. Especially as a white parent. as a parent with privilege because all the privileges and resources that are attached to my son go with him. And what are those? Wow. I think white privilege means you have vocal fry. Well, she has vocal fry. She does. Very full of herself woman. But let's see what, what is white privilege to her? Cause I've been wanting to know. And what are those? A loud mouth mother who will raise hell.

2:41:53 Someone who knows how to write a letter to a politician. Someone who knows how to call up an agency and ask questions or send emails and file complaints. Someone who is home enough so that my son goes to school every day well rested, well fed, and feeling loved. Well, unlike all you Hispanics and black people, you don't know how to write a letter. You don't know how to write a letter? You're stupid. She doesn't have white privilege. She's racist. She's straight up. She is racist. She's totally racist. This list. No, this is exactly right. This is exactly what white privilege is. It's white people

2:42:37 Who are racist? Who think that black and brown people can't write a letter, can't call up a... This, I gotta hear that thing again. This is, oh my goodness, this is dynamite. And what are those? A loud mouthed mother who will raise hell. Someone who knows how to write a letter to a politician. Someone who knows how to call up an agency and ask questions or send emails and file complaints. Someone who is home enough so that my son goes to school every day well rested, well fed and feeling loved.

2:43:17 At the end of the show, holy crap! Good segment. Now, will you be able to maintain this in the same stellar manner you've maintained the Millennial Minute? I'm gonna try. I'm on the lookout for white privilege clips, so if anybody hears any of these where somebody actually explains what white privilege is, we'll run them. Oh my goodness. I got some white privilege for you. CNN anchor. I think if you were caught masturbating at work and you're allowed to come back to work, I think that's white privilege. Don't you think Jeffrey Toobin has white privilege?

2:43:55 Yeah, he definitely has white privilege. Man, he's mad. He's mad! You know, one useful way of thinking about the way the court is approaching the... This is about the gun decision that has now legalized concealed carry and I believe constitutional... He's got concealed carry. I'm sorry? He's got concealed carry. How do you know? Because he was masturbating. You know, one useful way of thinking about the way the court is approaching the Second Amendment is to think about the First Amendment. You know, we know that in the United States you have the right under the First Amendment to say pretty much anything anywhere because we have freedom of speech in the United States. Except on Twitter. What the conservatives on the Supreme Court are saying is we want the Second Amendment to be a first-class right like the First Amendment.

2:44:47 and we want to be able to carry guns anywhere, anytime, without any sort of regulation by the government. Without background checks, without restrictions on where you can take a weapon, without restrictions on how you can carry a weapon. Now, they haven't gone that far yet, but they are clearly moving in that direction. Man, you know, it's like it because there was another Supreme Court decision which just I think was completely snowed under by Roe v. Wade, which may have also been part of the point because the whole gun conversation, even though the Protecting Our Children in America from Guns Act, whatever it's called, did pass and the president signed it into law. So now states potentially

2:45:35 Same deal, by the way. States can potentially put red flag laws into effect and they'll get money from the federal government for it. Good. You want to hear about the Supreme Court decision from guns since it's kind of important? I'm all ears. For more than a century, New York State has had one of the nation's strictest laws regulating the concealed carrying of firearms. But today, the Supreme Court struck that law down. The New York law required anyone seeking a license to carry a concealed handgun to show they had proper cause, a special need for it. But by a 6-3 majority, the court today declared that law violates the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Justice Clarence Thomas writing for the court, we know of no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need. It is not how the Second Amendment works when it comes to public carry for self-defense.

2:46:32 The New York law, Thomas wrote, for the court's six conservative justices gave local officials too much discretion over a constitutional right. Why isn't it good enough to say I live in a violent area and I want to be able to defend myself. Now New York must revise the 109 year old law in accordance, Thomas wrote, with this nation's historical traditions of firearms regulation. Today, the governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, swift in her reaction. This decision isn't just reckless, it's reprehensible. It's not what New Yorkers want. And we should have the right of determination.

2:47:09 of what we want to do in terms of our gun laws in our state. President Biden in a statement said the ruling should deeply trouble us all, adding in the wake of the horrific attacks in Buffalo and Uvalde, we must do more as a society, not less, to protect our fellow Americans. I think it's a bad decision. I think it's not reasoned accurately, but I'm disappointed. In his dissent, Justice Stephen Breyer mentioned the nearly 300 mass shootings that have occurred this year, saying the court's decision does not consider the potentially deadly consequences and that it burdens states' efforts in preventing gun violence and protecting the safety of its citizens.

2:47:48 But Justice Samuel Alito firing back, writing, how does the dissent account for the fact that one of the mass shootings near the top of its list took place in Buffalo? The New York law at issue in this case obviously did not stop that perpetrator. Yeah, this is from last Thursday. I actually was thinking we should have had it on the last show. Yeah, we probably should have. But I think it came during the show. Yes, it did. And even more fun, I mean, not really fun, but holy crap, Oslo. I mean, did you even see this news? It has been reported about the mass shooting in Oslo at the Pride, during the Pride festivities. No, no. Okay, well we got a report actually from Sir Snoldus of the dude's name Ben and he says, isn't it typical when something happens in Oslo worthy of international attention it has to be some dickhead shooting up something?

2:48:43 Yes, a lone gunman opened fire at a club killing two wounding 11 in addition to another 22 people harmed in the aftermath 33 total just a coincidence He says the backdrop Oslo is the at the height of summer this weekend with the big pride parade and tons of rock festivals going on the city is full of people for one of both of these events the government first opened ire opened fire at a bar, killing two people before shooting his way down the street to a pub. It's called the London Pub, a local gay bar, where he was tackled to the ground by civilians before being arrested by police. Gee, if only those civilians were armed, they might have been able to stop him sooner. Maybe not, but that's not possible because gun laws in Norway are super strict.

2:49:31 In order to even purchase a firearm in Norway, you must be a member of a gun club with the gun club vouching for your proficiency in handling firearms with a certification. You are only allowed to buy ammo for guns you are registered as owning. It's unclear how he came to possess the weapons used." Yeah, okay. So, but of course this is very embarrassing for people who feel that guns should not be available because it just doesn't make any difference. No, nobody wants to listen to that what you just said. What do you mean? People listen to me all the time. Nobody wants to listen. Nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear it. I think we should do what they did in Ukraine. I was thinking about this the other day. Remember at the very beginning of the war where they took a bunch of guns and just dropped them off on the streets? Yeah, and put them in boxes on the street. Yeah. And they just throw them there. I think we should do that in a homeless encampment. Don't you think that would be great?

2:50:28 Yeah, I mean you're in San Francisco. I'd love to see those fireworks. That would be great. Yes. I think it's a good idea I think you should think you should start it off right away get it going so guns to the head to go us all right I'm gonna see if I can Fix some of the crisis here. I'm sorry the heat is playing tricks all over, Texas. Oh That's what happens. It's Texas. It is Texas. Dan, I'm gonna work on this. I think you're right. I think I need to plug in a different mic. This just seems to be completely incompatible. You sound dynamite. That's all that counts. Don't change a thing. End of show mixes from Tom Starkweather. We've got Sir Michael Anthony and GWOOF! GWOOF! With an end of show mix that is exactly 3 minutes and 33 seconds long. Okay.

2:51:19 Message received, Gruff, we appreciate it. That took work. Yeah, he ends it rather abruptly. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we are all checking our white privilege. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday with more deconstruction of whatever comes our way. Until then, please remember us at dvorak.org slash NA. We appreciate all the support. Value for value is what it's about. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And, uh, adios, mofos. Don't block me, Josie!

2:52:03 In the morning on a Thursday John C was up way after dawn Okay, he's fickle He'd had emails all through yesterday It seemed John Steck had the horn I think at some point... Let's face it, you blocked him He's a slave without a nation A knight with a tame no more The thoughts of a de-douche-in could chuck him overboard I don't think I blocked him You blocked him Now he believes at the end of the day Is you know the thing When someone annoys you, whatever it is, block If it's troll room, dataio you say Then he'll be there proving You got blocked You got blocked? He's a cuck without a third man A misogynistic pig Using podcast famous sham To get a corporate gig And he'll tell you when you're wrong And when you aren't right too You'll never need another partner, Adam To disagree with you

2:52:58 He likes to comment on how dumb you are. He's an old guy who just wants to bitch about some other old guy. That old fart, why don't you fire him and put me on your show? They never suggest John Steck. Goodbye John Steck, has it been nice with your insights in our blood? I could concede your point of view is about as useful as a part of the national suit So I'll block you, block your mom too Your art of blackness, what I can't undo, no I'm not Don't feel no shame, cause tomorrow I'll block some of the troll again! Back and forth, lately free, if your retorts were interesting, hope you'll fuse us, see you through, all the dark winters, and a really nice tune. So goodbye, Danonea, goodbye CSB, and your AI.co cooking crew.

2:53:57 Well some they toot and some they don't And some podcast as well as that old fart And some they boost and some they won't Well their douchebaggery smells That old fart, fart, fart He's looking for an exit strategy for that he really needs Cause if it's poverty you say, yeah well I guess it's just not neat His marriage is a failing, he hasn't caught the couf At least he's still a pureblood trapped in that milieu The only reason I say this, he sent an exceptional amount today. That old fart. Dvorak may never have heard of him. He may have slept through that class. That old fart. Surprise! It was new to him. He worked in a laboratory. You got your wet bulb on today? Good. Goodbye John Steck. Has it been nice with your insights in our lives? I could concede your point of view is a bit

2:54:47 Is about as useful as a foreign international suit So I'll block you, block your mom too You're on a blacklist, what I can't undo No I'm not bothered I don't feel no shame, cause tomorrow I'll pluck some of the troll the same. Back and forth, set me free, if your retorts were interesting. Hope the fuel circles see you through, or the dark winters and the raving nights too. I'm not biting, getting all you know, gotta give it the whole load. Goodbye John, Stek, and Darren O'Neill Goodbye CSP, Gizmo Nation too Goodbye shit posters, goodbye Macedon Goodbye Fediverse, goodbye John

2:55:33 I think it was hope today. Jabs for the babies. As of right now. Jabs for the babies. As of this minute. And what we're trying to do right now is to deal with an acute problem right now. Look, I'm deeply, deeply sympathetic to the fact that families are paying a lot at the that they have taken away our right to have reasonable restrictions. We can have restrictions on speech. That matters. That matters. That matters to teachers. That matters to home health care aides. That matters to construction workers. That matters to plumbers. That matters to lifeguards. Those are the people that, and many others. We need more money to plan for the second pandemic. It's going to be another pandemic.

2:56:12 pandemic. You know a bat to a pangolin to a hippopotamus to people whatever whatever. This is just pure insanity, pure insanity. We are going backwards in time. Are we gonna say no it's over we're going back to the dark ages no no. I feel like we're almost going backwards. Shocking. Jabs for the babies. Absolutely shocking. We recommend against it. We are not going to have any programs where we're trying to jab six-month-old babies with MRNRA. I think it was hope. I am the mayor of this city. That's why I took your job. Step of celebrity. Eastside New York killer. Sub-clown. You know I still ain't dropped a mandate. No jazz, no job. I got swagger. First off, who the freedoms and rights you claim? Unbacked, can't work unless they in the game. You claim you an enslaved but I rule your life. Same goes for your child, husband or wife. Plus the Constitution ain't that hard to rip. Down in violence, the Supreme Court's a punk ass fidget. The government and criminals got all

2:57:12 We got to keep the citizens the best, only we can bring it in to the many. New York is giving up. Wicky-wack, wicky-wack, wicky-wicky-wicky. Wild, wild west. New York is in the wild, wild west. The maker in the wild, wild west. Bringing swag into the wild, wild west. The best podcast in the universe! MoFo. Dvorak.org. Slash N-A. Don't block me, John C.