Episode 1390 · Thursday, 14 October 2021

No Hugs For You!

From William Shatner’s Blue Origin flight to the supply chain crisis at American ports, the media narrative struggles to contain a growing wave of labor unrest.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 33m listen | 49 chapters
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About this episode

William Shatner became the oldest person to travel to space this week aboard a Blue Origin flight, sparking a media frenzy that contrasted his profound post-flight reflections with a strict management policy against podcast appearances. While Gayle King and CBS News celebrated the 90-year-old actor as a cultural milestone for the Texas Hill Country, the event served as a backdrop for a shifting media landscape where NBC and ABC increasingly use news broadcasts to promote rival streaming services like Amazon Prime and Disney Plus.

Labor unrest is surging as Southwest Airlines pilots and staff engage in massive sick-outs to protest federal vaccine mandates, leading to over 1,800 flight cancellations. In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott issued an executive order banning such mandates, directly challenging the Biden administration and Press Secretary Jen Psaki. Internationally, Taiwan health authorities report that post-vaccination deaths have surpassed total virus fatalities, while Australia Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner announced heavy fines for unvaccinated workers. Meanwhile, the global supply chain faces a historic bottleneck at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, exacerbated by China’s power crisis and the failure of Germany’s Energiewende energy policy.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta faced a tense confrontation on The Joe Rogan Experience regarding CNN’s coverage of ivermectin, leading to a rare admission of network missteps. The episode captures the absurdity of the current moment, from NPR’s guide on the etiquette of pandemic hugging to a Navy engineer’s attempt to sell nuclear secrets via a peanut butter sandwich. Co-hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate fourteen years of deconstructing these narratives for the Gitmo Nation.


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CHAPTER 01 / 49 Discussion

William Shatner Space Flight and 90th Birthday Celebration

William Shatner became the oldest person to travel to space at age 90 via a Blue Origin flight. The hosts remark on Shatner's remarkably well-preserved appearance and lack of wrinkles despite his age. The event is framed as a significant cultural milestone for the Silicon Valley and Texas Hill Country regions.

william shatner· blue origin· jeff bezos· space flight· 90th birthday

00:00 That gave me goose bumps. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 14th 2021 This is your award winning GiveOnation Media Assassination Episode 1390 This is no agenda Stocked with Cerverno Kittens and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country FEMA Region Number 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all celebrating William Shatner still alive! I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Man, that dude is not just still alive. He looks like damn good for 90 years old. He looks a lot better after he came back. He really is astoundingly well preserved

00:47 Yes, well... I mean didn't you think that was interesting? Just oh my god the guy is 90. He's no wrinkles just he's got his fat belly all happy and shit! I love that! Yeah he looks super super happy. I dig that Well actually i covered it on a three by three because he showed up Oh well hold on a second ladies and gentlemen It's time once again for 3x3 Experiment Lab JCD comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC That's right every single Thursday morning John C Dvorak checks out the three big networks gets you the stories tells you what's happening in The world of network television. What did you learn John? What I learned mm-hmm well, uh Start with NBC today okay, and they course had this pop start on

CHAPTER 02 / 49 Discussion

NBC Today Show Pop Start, Adele, and Peter Jackson Beatles Documentary

NBC's "Pop Start" segment featured Adele discussing her new album after a six-year hiatus, which prompted an emotional reaction from the network's commentators. The network also promoted Peter Jackson's upcoming Beatles documentary, "Get Back," which is scheduled to premiere on Disney Plus. Critics noted the irony of NBC promoting content for a competing streaming service.

nbc· adele· peter jackson· the beatles· get back· disney plus

01:41 Oh, the pop... they introduced that last Thursday. Did they not? Well I think it may have been introduced before that but this is first time i saw was last Thursday by TuneIn and there it is again! Pop start Oh yeah, Pop Start. And they're going on and on... They got the crew there and they're going on about Adele and her new LP. How about her new look? How about Adele's new look? They had her and they had her on lockdown. They showed her she doesn't even look like Adele at all! Someone ate Adele! Some other woman has replaced her And she came on, uh... She looks dynamite. ...she had a new LP coming out after six years? Hey do you think- I mean she looks dynamite but do you think that maybe that will hurt her career? People listen to her music and don't know if they care about so much what she's like. Oh people are pretty superficial! There is that. But anyways, so she got in the little- she called in

02:39 They showed her calling in for during life and lockdown, oh lockdown. And she's going on and on about it. And then she says you know I've got this new album after six years and quote was I found the feeling again. And then the commentator one of the guys there at NBC goes Oh! He says that gave me goose bumps And then everybody on the set, the guy goes oh I got the goosebumps yeah wow and they go wow wow everyone who goes across the board you know it's like six people on this set Wow wow wow she's got the feeling again

03:20 I lost that feeling a long time ago. And so then boom, they cut to Peter Jackson's uh he's doing the Beatles he's editing the Beatles new documentary Oh? Get Back yeah it's gonna be all the old outtakes and stuff from a bunch of other clips Millionaire he puts together in this thing called It's gonna be called Get Back. It's gonna feature Yoko Ono. Hey, and will it- Wow! Wow wow wow Will it be on Netflix? Will it be streaming somewhere else that these idiots don't own a piece of it That's good I didn't catch that And then so okay we're gonna be right back and it's going to be Reba McIntyre live in studio Wow!

04:05 And so Reba, they cut to Reba. She's got that big smile that she has and she's got a piece of paper up and it says written on it with a Sharpie or some pen It says I love Adele! And they all go awwwwww and then they cut the commercial Actually, they were smart. Good old ABC was ABC that you're talking about? That was NBC NBC Wait a minute. All right. NBC had Peter Jackson on about his beetle the Beatles get back No, they talked to him but he didn't he wasn't oh sure they were just promoting and they showed the trailer Well it will premiere on Disney Plus

CHAPTER 03 / 49 Discussion

ABC News Promotion of The Tender Bar and Social Media Documentaries

ABC News utilized its broadcast to promote "The Tender Bar," a film directed by George Clooney slated for release on Amazon Prime. The network also featured a segment on an ex-Rockette with MS using social media for positivity, which linked back to a documentary on Robin Roberts' Facebook page. The reliance on house ads and external platform promotions is highlighted as a sign of declining traditional advertising.

abc news· george clooney· the tender bar· amazon prime· robin roberts

04:45 These morons, they're promoting the competition. That is dumb you're right. Ay yi ay yi! That is NBC. That's typical. Dumb. If you're gonna do it, do it right people or get some properties to promote So then we go over ABC and they got a house ad... Who were they? Now wait was ABC promoting Get Back The Documentary on Disney Plus No what they promoted was the new movie Check this one out, see where this one goes to. They were promoting and they had the trailer for the movie The Tender Bar with George Clooney And it's like, I don't know if it's about a father and son. Maybe a gay thing? I don't know but there was this big movie coming out and they played the trailer for it and they went on and on about this but they started off with a bunch of house ads for everything. They never done have any advertisers at ABC so the whole segment is about an ex-rockette who has, who's falling apart because she has MS and she's using social media for positivity

05:49 And then they're playing all this dramatic music and they're going on and on about giving hope, giving hope. Okay so the tender... The whole documentary of this poor woman is for dancer it's gonna be on Robin's Facebook page! The Tender Bar already premiered at the 2021 London International Film Festival and it will go into release on December 17th on Amazon. Dumb, dumb, dumb! Yeah, these people are stupid. No! But the other dumb thing is why are they showing the full episode of giving a big promotion to this poor woman's Giving Hope documentary on Robin's Facebook page? It's a gimme it's like uh... Like they promised her something else and they couldn't deliver and so that believe me This is how that goes. You know I had that myself just two days ago where I got cut. I got bumped

CHAPTER 04 / 49 Discussion

CBS News, Jay-Z Police Reform Initiative, and William Shatner

CBS News reported on Jay-Z and his organization, Team Rock, filing lawsuits and FOIA requests against police departments for misconduct. The segment drew comparisons to the work of Judicial Watch. Additionally, Gayle King interviewed William Shatner following his return from space, where he discussed the fragility of the Earth's atmosphere and global warming.

cbs news· jay-z· team rock· judicial watch· william shatner

06:50 Who did you get bumped from? Oh, uh... I got semi-bumped from Megyn Kelly. No you were on the show, I heard it Yeah, I got...I got semi-bumped John but we can talk about it Well hold on a second! I understood there were going to be three guests and they only had two guests and you were one of them no there was supposed to be two guests And it was 1 hour for Sharon Osbourne and 1 hour for me You got cut is what you mean, you got cut down here and bumped That's what I said, semi-bumped Semi-bumped, okay. So we go to CBS and did you like it or do you just want to move on? I'd rather move on Did you so if we go back to CBS We didn't get that them so they didn't have anything to promote really and a guy the guy I think is kind of like I don't know not Sharp as I find out his name's Nate the new black guy And so they have a segment called in the middle and so they bring Nate and I forgot what's her name

07:53 I can't remember the black woman's name and then that guy, the dorky weather guy or whatever he is. And so they start to talk about stuff and they go...and here's what CBS does Talk of The Nation They go it's okay we're just gonna talk of The Nation at three and then we're going to start telling their main stories and so Gail comes up with Team Rock Jay-Z is now spending money uh to help people that were I guess he's the first one who has ever done this, even though i've heard about this for decades. He is going after police departments who are doing a bad job. Jay Z is doing that?

08:30 Jay-z it with his team rock and and Gail says everyone's knows Team Rock. I never heard of a way Okay, yeah Team Rock is very big they produced the Super Bowl But what what are they doing against the police that our battle? Team there they're taking my you know What said was that justice operation that used to be on on Twitter And they got pretty much kicked off, and they were just filing a lot of lawsuits and filing freedom of information act constantly And, you know that big muscle-bound guy that used to be on... Muscle-bound guy? The muscle bound guy. He was just this team of justice or something I can't remember the name of this operation but they were always kind of pro Trump and so they got kicked off Twitter. I'm trying to think who your talking about. Yeah there's a muscle bound guy who is the lead guy people have gotta remember what this is anyway

09:21 So the Team Rock's doing the same thing. Oh, Judicial Watch? Judicial Watch! With Tom? Yeah yeah yeah... Team Rock is doing the same thing. And so Gale and all of the rest are now on CBS it's a little different than Wow Wow Wow they all go Bravo Bravo and everybody in this stage going Bravo Bravo Jay-Z Bravo Jay-Z Bravo And so then they go to the 81, cut to the 81-year old pharmacist. This is the one Nate takes he gets this one some old white woman and they're all going now in this case you go wow wow wow! And then and then they cut to Shatner boom here comes William Shatner down from the rocket. More Amazon promotion. Gail opens up with Bravo to you William Shatner exact quote

10:13 Okay, bravo. Bravo. Bravo. So he goes so Bravo Bravo Shatner says he tries to describe the situations He's describing his experience and he says almost inchoate so generalized, and then they somehow bring it to global warming. I don't know how they did it. Wait wait wait! Did he not promote Star Trek Discovery starting in November? No well he might have but because I cut it off after five minutes of him okay but uh...I don't think so no they promoted global warming And what did you have to say for himself that he saw while he was up there is not only did see the curvature of the earth

CHAPTER 05 / 49 Discussion

William Shatner Pre-Flight Comments and Podcast Hostility

A comparison is made between William Shatner's profound post-flight reflections and his more eccentric pre-flight persona. Despite his recent media blitz, Shatner's management reportedly maintains a strict policy against appearing on podcasts. The hosts discuss the difficulty of booking high-profile guests who transition into "legacy" media circles.

william shatner· rocket man· podcasting· celebrity interviews

10:57 But he also saw the global warming. Yes, but here's how he saw it He says you go through the atmosphere which is only 15 miles thick and you pop into black The oneness of the blackness of the infinite death And he says you look down and see this little layer of atmosphere That's all we've got! It's being polluted I'm just telling what went on Yeah, poor Bill. But actually no I think he's having the time of his life. Oh you know what? I thought because in fact I have a clip play this early that this is before the flight and see the difference between before and after look on the clipless it's Shatner pre-flight comments she packed my bags last night pre-flight zero hour

11:50 9 a.m., and I'm gonna be high as a kite, I am a rocket man, rocket man! Burning out his fuse up here alone... We have an end of show mix which is better than that but it's the same idea A lot of people came up with that So uh well i beat them all to it didn't I? Now I think that because I did hear some of his comments before the flight And I think this jacked him up. He can get to 100 now! Just looking at him, I don't see why he couldn't... The guy looks phenomenal. It's perfect. That was it? He is a podcast hater Do you have a clip of him hating on the podcasts? No but i've been trying to get ahold of him for uh... Oh yeah, forget about it now

12:41 Now it's gone to his head. He says I hate all podcasts, I will never do a podcast is what his manager said. No, you never told me that! Yeah, I probably didn't but as irksome enough that I'm telling you now hmm alright well and that was it? That your three by three? It's my 3x3 you got it outstanding report outstanding report So my Ziverto kit arrived a lot of people were really worried about that, about the whole process from zivertokit.com Yes! Which was super sketchy to review.

CHAPTER 06 / 49 Discussion

Ziverdo Kit Procurement and Ivermectin Distribution from India

A host describes the process of ordering a "Ziverdo kit" from an Indian website to treat COVID-19 symptoms. The kit contains a combination of zinc, ivermectin, and doxycycline. The transaction involved a complex payment process via PayPal in the Netherlands and required the package to be labeled as "garments" to bypass customs scrutiny.

ziverdo kit· ivermectin· zinc· doxycycline· india· paypal

13:24 You can order them per, I think per two or four. Explain what they are? Okay, the Zverdo kit is popularized in India and probably because it saved people's lives is a bubble pack. Millions! Bubble pack and it has everything you need the minute you get the couffee and even has day by day 14 days there's 14 days of zinc in there There's three days of ivermectin And then six days of doxycylline And, you know this is my stepdaughter. Got COVID after being vaccinated sent her the pack two days later she's up and walking around. Of course! Yeah so we ordered 20 now the way it works on this website it's really sketchy which of course because you're sending contraband

14:13 So the minute you complete your order, then it says oh hold on a second we'll give you a PayPal to use and I got one in the mail and it popped up. And it has instructions very explicit hey you know you're asking for shit based...I'm paraphrasing We're going to be sending you stuff that may have some issues if you put medication anywhere in the PayPal notes just don't do that say its garments And, uh... You know there's a million things you could say. Why garments? They suggested garments which I think is dumb because there's definitely taxation import duties on garments but okay But yeah, I didn't put anything in the message and it was even crazier It was at PayPal dot NL Which you know so they're running it through The Netherlands So I mean I think like it was $200 for or 190 dollars for 20 or whatever it was Too expensive but that's what it is

15:05 And I didn't know what happened. And other people were like, hey man this thing's real sketchy! I don't trust it. Of course you don't trust it but two days ago... ...I had to sign for it from India which of course means they drop shit directly from there Came in a nice little cube cardboard box completely that had to get the thermal lance open Completely tied up like no one would even want to look at And I had them in there, so it was perfect. And they looked legit and that worked! Now I'm giving them away to friends wherever we can. You should give it to friends who need them... just random friends. No no, I don't have that many. Far less than that. And you're off the list, so really its hard It's hard to give them away to friends. I already got two. So, I got cut short on Megyn Kelly

CHAPTER 07 / 49 Discussion

Megyn Kelly Show Production and SiriusXM Podcasting History

A host recounts a recent appearance on Megyn Kelly's program, noting the high production value and strict scheduling typical of professional television. The segment was shortened to accommodate an extended interview with Sharon Osbourne. The discussion touches on the financial scale of SiriusXM contracts and the transition of podcasts into traditional broadcast formats.

megyn kelly· siriusxm· sharon osbourne· podcasting· steve krakauer

16:07 Yeah, what'd you think? Well I didn't write the way. I saw it well Let me let me tell you how it went and then then we can get to that so I have to say off the bat this Megyn Kelly production is just like The Tonight Show not that ever been on tonight show but that level of call sheets and producers and questions and topics and missing the point and in and well It's no longer a podcast That's why and and an entire setup of how to make your camera look good and have the right lighting, and please dial in at 1230 which is a half hour before it's supposed to go on. Oh yeah. Okay so I'll do it." And I'm in and...1230! So Sharon Osbourne has only been talking for an hour

16:55 for half an hour. And the booker, she... Now I'm in the breakout lounge it's very sophisticated this Zoom stuff they can put you in the green room and breakout lounge all kinds of different switching capabilities. She says, I'm really sorry! I said, Really? You're gonna bump me for Sharon Osbourne?! She says no no but we have to go long blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl And so I was kind of cool, they just gave me the feed so that I could see the feed even when she went to commercial breaks. She only lets you know how people are on camera and then when the camera goes off their facial expression changes, the muscles relax. Yeah it looks like a different person Very slight with her almost nothing

17:42 She's that her on camera and off-camera appear to be almost Megan or Megan? Megan Megan I'm talking about Megan Yeah, because Megan would do a you know do a host read of some genu cell commercial Which she could just see she looking right in the camera like you hate this don't you know it and then she's complaining About okay Sharon will be right back. You know we have a heartbreak And I know people are saying why do you have hard breaks but no it's serious and That's great. Yeah, and that really ruins it! It really ruins the whole flow, the whole vibe...it just...ahhh....that's too bad But I know how it goes. I know exactly how this went There is a very expensive production there must be 10 people on it

18:26 So, you know and that's a daily show. It's a lot of work and I know Sirius XM pays well if they really want something because I remember do you remember we had the podcasting radio show on SiriusXM? Did I know did I know you then? I remember it was a little bit before your time i think And yeah so you guys have bailed from just about the time I got there Right! So P W Fenton There is a name for ya He would put all these different pieces of podcasts together. Guy was working for days and days just to get these things done, and then I'd track them in voiceovers. It was a three-hour show or something. It was way too long. It was bits of podcast with me doing wraparounds but at the time now...I didn't take money personally because it went into the company but I think it was $350,000 for a year And that's just me playing some damn snippets of podcast

19:17 That's reasonable. So, you know if they won Megyn Kelly... You gotta think they're in six figures. You'd hope! Yeah otherwise you can't pull it off so I understand. I understand. Umm..so i decided right because you know they had topics like that they sent me but we'll talk about MTV your life and your career what do you think of Matthew McConaughey what do you think a Bitcoin all these different things they put in there um because I think the executive producer listens to the show have a feeling Steve Krakauer, whatever his name is. I think Steve Krakauer has his own podcast and so i figured you know there's no way in because they said well you got 20-25 minutes which is kind of true what I had truth and the true amount and I'm not gonna like go it meant 25 minutes we can do No Agenda value for value! I could talk twice as long for that So I decided just to write away

CHAPTER 08 / 49 Discussion

Ozzy Osbourne and Sharon Osbourne Moscow Music Peace Festival Anecdote

An anecdote is shared regarding the 1989 Moscow Music Peace Festival involving Ozzy Osbourne, Sharon Osbourne, and several rock bands. The story describes a humorous and unglamorous moment involving Ozzy on a flight from Newark to Moscow. The host reflects on Sharon Osbourne's appearance before her various cosmetic procedures.

ozzy osbourne· sharon osbourne· moscow· scorpions· motley crue

20:15 Make the bridge to Sharon Osbourne see if I could grab a little bit of control, you know And have a nice flow and then I got to say that You know, I was in Moscow with Sharon and I'd I was I was not planning on telling my Aussie story But it would have been a good one. Remember the Aussie story in Moscow? Uh, no actually. I don't remember it but if you remind me i probably will Well that's where we're flying from Newark to Moscow Actually via Germany to pick up Scorpions It's Bon Jovi Motley Crue Ozzy Osbourne with most of Black Sabbath The whole thing is full of bands and me and a two man crew And Sharon's there Sharon looks way different before the tummy tuck and all that And Ozzy is hammered He's standing in the aisle

21:03 waiting for the lavatory someone's in there and all of a sudden you just hear this Sharon Sharon and he's pissed his pants it's like you know light gray pants it's just big spot like it like a six-year old I think I remember that story don't think really oh well that's my Aussie story Yeah, it'd been a good one. You should have used it! Nooo! Oh no I'm not gonna do that of course not. You grossed her out But then I got to get my little zinger in there saying I don't know...I mean wow look at how good Sharon looks is that the Genu cell you're giving to her? So and I thought a tie-in her hated commercial read her host read people always loved that Leo used to love that And then we just chatted so you heard it um I didn't have a lot of chance to plug stuff

CHAPTER 09 / 49 Discussion

Podcasting 2.0 Promotion and Megyn Kelly Audience Crossover

A debate ensues regarding whether the host properly promoted "No Agenda" during the Megyn Kelly interview. While "Podcasting 2.0" was mentioned, the co-host argues that a direct plug for the main show was missed. They anticipate a "value for value" donation boost from Kelly's audience to settle the argument.

podcasting 2.0· bitcoin· value for value· megyn kelly

21:47 Well, you plugged Mo Fax and you plugged your podcast about Bitcoin. No I don't have a podcast about bitcoin and she said... The way you sounded it as though you had because you wanted her to get on board with it some bitcoin thing? Uh no uh I and she she said no agenda right at the top that was in her intro Yeah, I didn't hear it. Okay. I heard her intro but didn't hear that. Well let's move on then since you clearly don't give a shit since i didn't say no agenda or something...I don't know what's wrong with you? What?! You never-you plugged MoFax!

22:24 I didn't plug... You plugged some podcast about that, the Bitcoining podcast or some shit. It's called Podcasting 2.0! There is no fucking bitcoin word in it Did you really listen? But you mentioned bitcoin She mentioned bitcoin did you really me- I said i want to get you on Podcasting 2.0 I never said any bitcoin to her There was a Bitcoin angle to that, I can get the clip. I don't care! But it's beside the point you never once mentioned no agenda during the whole time tell me that's not true? It is absolutely true there was no opportunity for it There was no opportunity. I could count at least two or three opportunities, like name one Well then why don't you go do Megyn Kelly and why don't you take care of that? I'm not doing anything! I'm just saying if you're gonna do it You should at least plug the show She plugged it at the intro And I had no other opportunity Except of course you would have done so much better

23:15 Oh, well you can condemn me for your not performing. I performed outstanding! I had a great performance and we will see Megyn Kelly donations on this show and you will eat those words... If you get a Megyn Kelly donation, I will eat my words And that's a Megyn Kelly donation like a Joe Rogan donation, yeah? Not Megyn Kelly herself donating because I know your tricks. No and don't wait a minute you just... Nope it's already unfair because you're gonna have some Dvorak haters in the audience right now saying I'm gonna do that! Well that's not hard to do there's a lot of them but that's not the point i saw this as an audition for a full two-hour show which they promised me before I went on they said I know you're getting cut

24:03 We're going to have you on for the full two hours, which they call an hour and 45 minutes. But full two hours." And so I figured I'd just go and do whatever I could and follow along with her... Okay well then when we get back down there I'll be more interested You are no longer allowed to listen! I think that's gonna be very difficult for you accomplish So this morning what dropped was something you may be interested in was Joe Rogan with Sanjay Gupta who showed up on his show And I'm surprised how CNN would let him do this. He wrote a whole story on CNN about his three-hour interview, and I just want to read it a line or two from this

CHAPTER 10 / 49 Discussion

Joe Rogan Interview with CNN Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta

Dr. Sanjay Gupta appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience to discuss COVID-19 vaccines and ivermectin. Rogan confronted Gupta regarding CNN's characterization of ivermectin as "horse dewormer," forcing Gupta to admit the network should not have used that framing. Gupta later wrote a patronizing op-ed for CNN claiming Rogan is a victim of misinformation.

joe rogan· sanjay gupta· cnn· ivermectin· vaccine mandates

24:49 Many friends cautioned me against accepting Joe's invitation. There's little please there's little room for reasonable conversations anymore one person told me he's a brawler and doesn't play fair another warned in fact when I told you He's a brawler and doesn't play fair another warned if ever seen any evidence of this No, that's not that's why I'm reading it to you in fact When I told Joe early in the podcast that I didn't agree with his apparent views on vaccines against COVID, ivermectin and many things in between. Part of me thought the MMA former taekwondo champion might hurdle himself across the table and throttle my neck! This is the kind of shit he was writing." That's terrible. And so at one point there was...I guess well anyway

25:39 So it was, I have not seen the whole three hours but i think is fantastic that this happened and if anything for this clip about the ivermectin because you recall CNN was saying Joe Rogan took horse dewormer. And didn't say he was prescribed that or anything and pretty much called him an anti-vaxxer. So this was what Joe brought up, and he would not let Sanjay Gupta deflect although he tried many times. Horse dewormers is not a flattering thing I get that. It's a lie on a news network and it's a lie that its willing

26:18 That's that's a lie that they're conscious of it's not a mistake. Yeah, they're unfavorably framing it as veterinary medicine Well the FDA put this thing out you saw that did you see that thing with the FDA put out? What did the FDA put up? It was a tweet and it was snarky. I admit it, they said you are not a horse you're not a cow stop taking this stuff or something like that Why would you say that when you're talking about a drug that's been given out to billions and billions of people? A drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making Nobel Prize in 2015 yeah Yeah, a drug has been shown Viral replication in vitro, you know that right? Why would they lie and say that's horse dewormer I can afford people medicine motherfucker. This is ridiculous It's just a lot of anyone is thick But don't you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network when you know that they know their line You know that they know that I took medicine Like here it is this is Ivan acting you guys right here somebody gave it to me

27:18 Alright, hang on. The thing is we're going so fast I feel like I'm missing... Slow down! Well, I don't know dude. What do they say? I was taking horse dewormer first of all it was prescribed to me by a doctor Yeah A long mission is that it was lunch of other medications if you got a human Pill because there were people that were taking the veterinary medication And I you're not obviously you got it from a doctor so that shouldn't be called that ivermectin can be a very effective medication and for parasitic disease and as you say it's probably, I think what a quarter billion people have taken it around the world? More. Way more. So way more. Billions of people have taken it Can I just come back to the one... 3.5 No no no no You have to... I'm sorry? 3.5 what? A billion

28:11 Oh, yeah say it's probably a quarter billion people have taken it around the world I get that way more so way more billions of people have taken it Can I just come back to the one? I want to talk about You before we get to that does it bother you that the news network you work for is Out and out lied well outright lied about me taking horse dewormer They shouldn't have said that why did they do that? I don't know you didn't ask. I didn't think there were you're the man over there I didn't ask I should have asked before they did it was such glee no I watched I Should've asked before I did the podcast, I wasn't prepared right

28:51 From his article, it was like Joe and I were now in the octagon circling one another. He stared at me intently now... Well, unlike the fact that Rogan was not letting up on this he was pissed off! Rightly so. It was... he stared... Gupta had no answer That was good. He ended his article because of course he had to write something about it because you know and he will be seen as a hero for doing this because at the very end quite a long thing I guess a small part of me thought it might change Joe Rogan's mind about vaccines. After this last exchange, I realized it was probably futile. His mind was made up and there would always be plenty of misinformation out there neatly packaged to support his convictions. Truth is though, I'm still glad I did it. My three-hour long conversation wasn't just with Rogan if just a few of his listeners were convinced It will have been well worth it. What a pompous ass!

CHAPTER 11 / 49 Discussion

Aspirin Health Guidelines and Potential COVID-19 Benefits

New medical recommendations from the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force suggest that adults over 60 should not start a daily aspirin regimen due to bleeding risks. The hosts speculate that this timing is suspicious, suggesting that aspirin may have undisclosed benefits for COVID-19 treatment that health authorities wish to suppress.

aspirin· npr· covid-19· heart attack· stroke

29:52 That's the most patronizing thing you can do. Yeah, gotta love it and then now we have the big aspirin scandal since oh aspirin might actually do something for COVID uh-oh yeah that's been studied yeah that actually has been they've run through that every time I've seen those studies they go well okay well maybe what is a mean but It's been studied, it does something. Zinc is in the same league as zinc But these stories came out... my point is these stories about aspirin came out about week and half ago And what happens right after that Oh! Just reminder taking aspirin can kill you

30:34 That's a good one. Yes, in fact I may even have it if i had a clip of that but yes that came out the uh this bull crap so a week and a half ago because I saw we didn't even report on it I was like okay maybe aspirin will help here it is well I got the clip aspirin risk so this is from now And this is a week and half, two weeks after they said it might help you with COVID. Okay? And this is from yesterday NPR. You might've heard that regularly taking a low dose of aspirin can lower your chance of heart attack or stroke but new recommendations from top US medical panels say that for some people starting daily aspirin could do more harm than good. Oh! NPR's Will Stone reports

31:17 People 60 years and older should not start taking aspirin to prevent that first heart attack or stroke. That's one of the big takeaways from the updated recommendations put out by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force. Dr. John Wong is a member of the task force, which sifted through most recent studies and weighed out benefits. What we found is that compared to older studies, aspirin appears to have less benefit from cardiovascular disease And then they looked at harms And there's an increasing recognition among healthy individuals of various ages that aspirin carries an increasing risk of bleeding as people age." Wang emphasizes that many people take aspirin safely, but that bleeding can happen in the stomach, intestines and brain. And it can be life-threatening. There are some important nuances with these guidelines

32:11 They do not apply to people who've already had a heart attack or stroke, or to people who are already taking daily aspirin. And Wong says the guidance changes as you move into the age groups below 60. Aspirin may have a small amount of benefit for people in their 40s or people in their 50s. Whether you choose to take it he says depends on your cardiovascular risk and should be decided with your doctor. This is... Now this is offbeat. I never thought about making the connection you made and, I have to say that's probably exactly what happened but let's get a little more sinister Is it possible that aspirin does have enough of an effect on COVID-19? It might actually work! No! What?! No, I'm just saying take it a little more sinister They don't want you to take it because they want you to get COVID-19

33:06 They want the public more susceptible to the disease. There's no coincidence! That's what I'm saying, that's the whole point they don't want you to take it No they don't want you to take it but they want you not because it prevents it but because the possibility exists Because they actually want you to get is what you're saying? They want you... That has been from day one nothing new The statistics would be we have the most deaths in the world with over 700,000. We don't do any treatment whatsoever! We're trying to kill our population off or knock it back and so they don't want anything in play that would slow that down I can only agree with that because when I follow...I've been doing this in my head a lot

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Medical System Control and Anthony Fauci Population Narratives

The discussion explores the influence of banks, insurance companies, and university endowments on the American healthcare system. The hosts interpret Dr. Anthony Fauci's recent public statements as a scripted push for total societal control through vaccination. They link these efforts to historical "population bomb" theories from the 1970s.

anthony fauci· healthcare system· population control· bill gates· c-span

33:54 Following everything back, you know that's going on just the wokeness in general but the complete control of the medical healthcare system. Our whole health care system is under control of banks primarily with insurance companies and then the universities who get endowments from the big guys, you know Ford Rockefeller it's easy to blame those people but they're the ones that give the endowments and say oh yeah but only if its this. Only if its for medicine not for any voodoo witch doctor stuff nothing natural so they determine the course of how things go

34:32 And why do they do that? Well, as you and I know. If people catch on there's too many of them they'll eat them for lunch so they figure we can't do a world war anymore that's messy We tried a little bit but let's kill him this way less people better for us i think That's absolutely true isn't it well doing a good job these are the population bomb People It's always about that! It's always about too many people Bill Gates oh we got to many people everyone is too many Yeah, the population bomb people which goes back to the 70s are in play. They've never left a scene and they're sick In fact Fauci was on did his his of they do their I think daily update is pretty much only on C-SPAN now

35:23 Listen to the very end what Fauci's saying and he even says, you know this is what we have on every last slide. This is scripted! This is-this is what we really mean! A 10 to 11 to 12 times less likelihood of being hospitalized and a more than ten times less likelihood of dying And the final message of all of us is always the same on the last slide Protect yourself and those around you. Vaccination is the answer to getting us to control. What does that mean? Am I interpreting this the wrong way? If he said, getting us to control the virus but just control... That was it! He's not specific about what controls. It seems pretty obvious to me. Control of everybody

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Southwest Airlines Flight Cancellations and Vaccine Mandate Protests

Southwest Airlines experienced over 1,800 flight cancellations, which the company blamed on weather and air traffic control. However, reports suggest a "sick-out" by pilots protesting the December 8 federal vaccine mandate was the primary cause. The FAA denied staffing shortages on its end, contradicting the airline's official narrative.

southwest airlines· vaccine mandates· faa· pilot strike· texas

36:17 Wow, man. We're a long way from not thinking these passports would ever be a thing I'm looking at all over the world is just it's getting pretty crazy. I talked to Christina She says dad is unbelievable there's everyone's in the standing in line for hours sometimes to get tested so that they can have a QR code to flash to go to A restaurant which to me means a lot of people didn't get vaccinated And I think those numbers are completely overblown. You don't get large numbers of pilots and air crew, etc., on some kind of unspecified sick-out wildcat type strike with less than 20% unvaccinated. It's got to be a much bigger number. Don't you think logically? Yeah, I do think and a lot of people, Chris,

37:12 100 million it's estimated in the United States alone have had COVID and don't need a shot. Well, but that's all that's continuously up for play! We know that the science we've checked says that but they just just say no no you need super immunity you need both both is the best you can get get that so before I place some of these there yeah I'm listening oh sorry before I play somebody's Covid clips I have quite a few I know can i ask your question In 14 years, you've never sent this many clips. What happened? It's double your normal amount of clips. Seriously! I started early... And let me tell you my clip thing and by the way the most clips i can send is 33 coincidentally but this is 39. No that's because you had a third batch that third batch was not in the original batch That was actually those are Shatner Clips for End of Show possibilities. Ah gotcha gotcha gotcha.

38:17 Now, my mechanism for doing clips is I clip-clip-clip and then I get to a point where I got the page full. And I just end...I just stop because I know I can't get all these clips in the show anyway. And so 33 is the max. There's 33 clips plus 6 bonus clips which is way over the top But before we do this, what do you know about the bull crap that's going on at Southwest? I have two clips and then we could talk about it. These are relatively short clips from CBS. Southwest blamed air traffic control and weather related challenges for more than 1,800 cancellations but the FAA said its staffing shortages ended Friday. Sources tell CBS News a southwest staffing shortfall this weekend was a factor in why so many of the company's flights were grounded other airlines didn't face widespread cancellations. I was told there may be a crew

39:20 issue basically. The union pilots denied speculatio out in response to a COVID same union asked to court requirement Southwest apo travel disruption saying get people home quickly an been fun, you know it's n our honeymoon whether or had anything to do with t protests, the potential pilot protest. This could end up being an issue that may come up with other carriers soon and that's because the federal vaccine mandate starts on December 8th airlines that don't comply with that mandate potentially lose government contracts so

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Airline Industry Labor Unrest and The Great Reset

Governor Greg Abbott issued an executive order banning vaccine mandates in Texas, creating a conflict for Texas-based carriers like American Airlines and Southwest. Reports indicate a planned "sick-out" for American Airlines on November 24, the day before Thanksgiving. The hosts suggest these labor disruptions could be a catalyst for a "Great Reset" of the economy.

american airlines· boeing· greg abbott· vaccine mandates· thanksgiving

40:05 What was really fun about this with Southwest Airlines being headquartered in Texas is that the governor of Texas came out the next day and said, oh here's an executive order. No mandates in Texas you're not allowed to do that so this of course sparked off the incredible all federal Trump states so they had lots to talk about In the background the reason why no one is really talking, although now I have received some messages luckily. It's because of the railroad law... Is that what it's called? Because you're basically a part of the government so you can't just go on strike and that goes to same for ATC and they're not even allowed to talk about it legally or there could be all kinds of issues but this is 100% exactly what happened

40:59 Interesting to me again is the numbers. I don't believe the numbers that we're hearing from the Biden administration, it's gotta be a lot more who are not vaccinated and for sure many pilots are now they're talking everywhere on the forums about how they really don't want it but most of them were saying you know I should choose another career anyway because I make crap money You know, most of the airlines in the US are really serviced by regional companies who fly under the same banner. It's really become much bigger than we realized I looked into it yesterday like holy crap! It's like 60% of the flights internally are from regional airlines

41:38 And they had and so they're really afraid because you know, their subcontractor subcontracting through one of the big ones. And if they lose that then it's completely gone to the pilots and certainly Southwest Airlines which was traditionally known as Herb's cattle car. There's a lot of love for the company and I think now the CEO has even said, well we've got to look at this because it is presenting a problem. So then with the lawsuit that the Pilots Association filed now were getting down to some American stuff! Let's take this to court, everybody. Quick question about this mandate we had reported you know last week that President Biden announced it but he never actually sort of filed it and went through the paperwork so can you tell us a little bit more about this vaccine mandate if you will? So what we know is the Biden administration last month said that staff of all federal contractors must be vaccinated by that date by December 8th unless they're granted a religious or medical exemption. So Southwest and other airlines are part of this rule

42:38 they fall under it because they fly government employees, they fly government cargo and they provide other service. To clarify though this federal guideline for government contractors is stricter than Biden's other initiative which requires companies with 100 employees or more to get those employees vaccinated and it's stricter because in that other mandate those employees if they don't want to get the shot they could be tested regularly for COVID instead. So, that was a little off topic I'm sorry there's going to be a citizens protest for Southwest Airlines against the mandate on October 18th and American Airlines is also headquartered in Texas they're in Dallas so they're now trying to evaluate what they're going to do but I already got word that November 24

43:29 is when American Airlines sick out. And that's a day before Thanksgiving, so that will get people's attention. Yes it will and again for me it comes back to... Boeing we're gonna see about 50% walk-off you know this is really really big and if anything this may be the trigger for some kind of great reset because man it's gonna mess stuff up And from everything I see, Biden administration wants it to happen. What did that crazy man say? Yeah, I wish i had the clip He said, oh 600 people have been fired for not taking the shot but look at the bright side Companies all over are mandating it That's the way our president talks now

CHAPTER 15 / 49 Discussion

Jen Psaki on Vaccine Mandates and Executive Authority

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki defended federal vaccine mandates, asserting they are pursuant to federal law despite the lack of a formal OSHA regulation at the time. She criticized Governors Abbott and DeSantis for "putting politics ahead of public health." The hosts argue that executive orders do not equate to federal law and question the constitutionality of the administration's actions.

jen psaki· osha· vaccine mandates· greg abbott· ron desantis

44:16 Well, let's listen to a couple of clips from Psaki. Yeah yeah she's been messing up big time! Well one of them she goes on about... but before we play the clip the big clip which is the Psaki on vaccine mandates where she calls out both DeSantis and your buddy there um uh your governor I know my governor but he's not my buddy Abbott if you would listen to Megyn Kelly you'd know that i said he's not my buddy No, you never said that. You said nothing but you like Abbott. You should listen again I will, I'm gonna listen again because i want to hear the Noah Janssen thing that she said Here's this is the one from actually from July...I don't know did we miss this clip? I have no idea This is Psaki on Vaccines Killing You Yeah yeah you mean The Gaffe? Yeah Well we played that

45:09 We'll play it. This is a two minute and 31 clip? No, no this is the short one this is the short gaffe 10 seconds oh I'm sorry yeah no we have this one about why it's important to get vaccinated why these vaccines are safe why uh they can still kill you even if you were under the age of 27 we need to be clear and direct about our messaging yeah yeah yeah we had to say we had the clip okay all right well now here's what I gotta tell you was episode 1364 so it was a while ago So here we go with, I have a short memory. So here we go with her going on and on and on about vaccine mandates. And if you listen to it carefully she is literally saying that an executive order is the law of the land. Yeah yeah yeah yes this is a very good clip. I have it as well but like by the way... An executive order's not the law of the land and if it was why do even have a legislature?

46:05 And if it was, why doesn't Biden just pass that $3.5 trillion bill by executive order? I'm asking! Oh well first of all there is no executive order they announced an executive order Yes I agree there's...I know somebody should have called her out on that Well she does in the clip she says in the clip herself that they don't have anything But let's just say it was There was Let's just say there was Does it become federal law And if it does, do we need a legislative branch of the government? And if we don't need that why doesn't he just pass the $3.5 trillion Reconciliation Act by executive order? Why doesn't he do that?" Okay because everyone even the idiots agree that Congress has the purse not the president so he can't spend but he can he can do other things So yeah Yeah He cannot spend he cannot pass that bill by executive order because

47:00 that is exclusively for Congress. But he can do mandates by executive order and that becomes federal law, so it's what a felony if you don't get the vaccine? Yeah absolutely yeah and then in 2024 or whatever someone else will come in can undo at all that's ridiculous but I think it falls within his jurisdiction for government he could do that for government workers and that's all that he's done but by extension It's the government contractors and that's a big group. It's everybody pretty much except us well so far so good all right Saki is the administration going to sue Texas over opposing the order for vaccine mandates? And is there risk that kind of the OSHA efforts essentially get tied up in litigation rather than having immediate effects

47:59 Well, Josh's requirements are promulgated by federal law. So when the president announced his vaccine mandates for businesses that of course we're waiting on OSHA regulations far as a next step That was pursuant to federal law and the implementation of federal law because it's an executive order. So our intention is to implement, and continue to work to implement these requirements across the country including in the states where there are attempts to oppose them I will say since you gave me the opportunity Governor Abbott's executive order banning mandates And I would also note announcement by Governor DeSantis this morning essentially banning the implementation of mandates

48:43 It's a fit of familiar pattern that we've seen, putting politics ahead of public health. Over 700,000 American lives have been lost due to COVID-19 including more than 56,000 in Florida and over 68,000 in Texas. Remember I just love how they take that 700,000 number man and they throw it out and they die of COVID! Of COVID! and every leader should be focused on supporting efforts to save lives and end the pandemic. Why would you be taking steps that prevent the saving of lives, that make it more difficult to save lives across the country or in any state? And I would also note that vaccine requirements have been standard in both the Lone Star State Texas, in case you're not familiar, and the Sunshine State Florida in schools for decades whether polio measles mumps rubella the chickenpox

49:31 There are vaccine requirements that have been implemented for decades in these states. So these decisions put these two leaders out of step with both longtime requirements, a history of vaccine mandates but also many business leaders in their states and many businesses that are based in their state including Disney and American Airlines These leaders are taking steps to help boost vaccination rates, reduce deaths hospitalizations and expand the country's labor pool. So bottom line is we're going to continue to implement the law which the President of United States has the ability, authority, legal authority to do and we are going to continue work to get more people vaccinated to get out this pandemic. The president will use every lever at his disposal to do that

50:20 I think you're right, and it weren't…I'm certainly not the right person to ask but it's probably not an executive order. I don't think equals federal law somehow? No, I don't think so. But if they think it does then everybody else thinks it does then it doesn't mean that it does. Well clearly since she didn't say in that clip like well we're OSHA is coming yeah oh sure don't worry about it yeah OSHAs working on it will get there which is the part for commercial companies not affiliated with government contracts and their mandate for more than 100 people you have to have a vaccine mandate in the organization. That one they haven't done yet, they just haven't published it. Her slipping into vaccine mandates for chickenpox, rubella and all the rest is for kids in school! It's not for people that work at the dry cleaners... It has also been around for long long time

CHAPTER 16 / 49 Discussion

Australia Northern Territory Vaccine Mandates and Fines

Michael Gunner, Chief Minister of Australia's Northern Territory, announced a strict vaccine mandate for all workers who interact with the public. Failure to comply by November 13 results in a $5,000 fine and exclusion from the workplace. The mandate includes retail, hospitality, and banking sectors with very narrow medical exemptions.

australia· michael gunner· northern territory· vaccine mandate· fines

51:12 Yeah, but it's for again. It's not for the public right? It's not four pilots No, I'm not that I know of now and so just as a cut up just as a contrast though have this other clip Well, I have a clip from Australia that I'd like to use as contrast okay This is Michael Gunner he is the Chief Minister, whatever that means of the Northern Territory in Australia. He's just going to explain it very clearly see the Australians They're already there we have not caught up yet There are six months ahead when this happens with Psaki starts talking like this or or any of the Congress critters That's when you know The commies have won listen to this ask yourself these three questions in my work Do I come into contact with vulnerable people?

52:03 Is my workplace at a higher risk of infection? Do I work on infrastructure or logistics that are critical to the territory?" If your answer is maybe, or I don't know you need to get the jab. Critically, the direction also applies to industries who directly face customers and circumstances where the worker may not know the vulnerability of the person they're interacting with. So it is simple If your job includes interacting with members of the public, then you need to get the jab. If you work in hospitality, you need to get the jab. You work in retail or a supermarket? You need to get the jab. If you are behind the counter at the bank if your receptionist positions like that, you need to get the jab

52:44 If you're a barber, hairdresser or beauty therapist you need to get the jab. All these workers and many more directly interact with members of the public that means you are frontline workers in our economy that means you must be vaccinated Of course there can be exemptions But these are extremely narrow and must be backed up with medical evidence. Simply not wanting the vaccine is not a reason. Done! Today we're also announcing the date from which this mandate comes into effect From Saturday the 13th of November, if you have not received at least your first dose of a vaccine. You will not be permitted to attend your workplace in that role and failure to comply with the direction is a $5,000 fine. That means that workers must have received at least their first dose by Friday 12th of November at the latest." How about that? A bunch of pricks down there those guys I got Australians saying it's kind of weird but we're all thinking about moving to Texas

CHAPTER 17 / 49 Discussion

Taiwan COVID-19 Vaccination Deaths vs Virus Deaths

Health authorities in Taiwan reported that the number of deaths following COVID-19 vaccination (865) has slightly exceeded the number of deaths attributed to the virus itself (845). The majority of post-vaccination deaths were linked to the AstraZeneca and Moderna shots. The hosts note the absence of Pfizer-related data in the specific report.

taiwan· astrazeneca· moderna· vaccine deaths· covid-19

53:47 Yes, move to Texas everybody. Yeah I hear Austin's great these days. I've heard it okay here's the contrasting clip i want people to pay close attention in this one i guarantee this would not be you...I couldn't even put this clip on twitter and get away with it This is a clip from uh..this is out this clip comes from Taiwan and here's the report on COVID deaths from the shot Okay hold on a second you got a lot here got it In Taiwan, the number of people dying after their COVID vaccination is exceeding the number of deaths from the virus itself. Taiwan's health authorities say that as of Monday, deaths after vaccination reached 865 while death from the virus are at 845. Vaccines currently offered in Taiwan include AstraZeneca, Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and Taiwan's own vaccine Medigen

54:39 Out of the 865 deaths after vaccination, over 600 were from AstraZeneca and nearly 200 deaths after Moderna shot. Yeah I love this! I think producer sent this to us both...I'm not sure but- I actually got it off the- Oh you did? How weird because i got the same one doesn't matter. It's possible What what I love about it is Pfizer gets off scot free there was no mention of anyone dying from Pfizer No it was AstraZeneca BioNTech and that was the end of the report Yeah, but the numbers didn't completely add up to their age. No! But that felt kind of fishy that she didn't at least say Pfizer... Well... Now a similar clip

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UK Parliament Discussion on Vaccine Injuries and Dr. Patricia Lee

MP Christopher Chope addressed the UK Parliament regarding the government's failure to acknowledge the number of hospitalizations caused by vaccine adverse effects. Simultaneously, a letter from ICU doctor Patricia Lee has gone viral, detailing her concerns about vaccine injuries and the ethical pressure on medical professionals to remain silent.

christopher chope· uk parliament· vaccine injury· patricia lee· icu doctor

55:19 Member of Parliament Christopher Chope in the UK. Here's what he said in parliament, by the way He should stay away from hot tubs and general aviation for a while The government may have not been too keen to promote that information But I think in failing to do that it is actually counterproductive I think most important of all but to give some assurance to those people who are already suffering they are Our hospitals have got a large number of inpatients who are only there because those patients took the vaccine. And it's causing a lot of angst for consultants across the country We know that there is causation between vaccinations and damage caused by those vaccines, yet the government in a lot of its literature seems to be denying that

56:14 I don't know. I would probably not be able to put that on Twitter either, it'd probably not work. I wouldn't think so In the show notes I have a letter from Dr Patricia Lee she's an ICU nurse No she's no she's not a nurse She's doctor, ICU doctor Emergency Doctor as well And she wrote this to her board, wrote a really long letter with all these examples of all these things that had happened. She says I can't continue in good conscience you know you guys are lying and this particular letter which i encourage everyone to read is going viral in the medical community so maybe someone will figure it out like hey maybe we should stop killing people. Yeah two years from now three years from now Well instead of all that

CHAPTER 19 / 49 Discussion

Joy Reid Criticizes Eric Clapton for Vaccine Skepticism and Racism

MSNBC host Joy Reid attacked rock legend Eric Clapton for his financial support of anti-lockdown groups and his collaboration with Van Morrison. Reid connected Clapton's current vaccine skepticism to a racist rant he made in 1976. The hosts mock Reid's attempt to frame vaccine mandates through the lens of historical racial oppression.

joy reid· msnbc· eric clapton· van morrison· racism

56:57 We get a totally different kind of message in the US. No, no we're not going to discuss if people are dying or not you're gonna see that on television certainly not from our quote-unquote leaders now know we get people like Joy Reid Celebrities have the power to sway millions of people which is why it's so alarming when particularly the ones with huge platforms publicly spread vaccine disinformation Now this story I'll say up front is about Eric Clapton and what do you think she's gonna say about Eric Clapton? He's an anti-vaxxer spreading misinformation. Oh, that's just the beginning! No no no we can ease... look what do you want to tie it to? Climate change or something else? We could..we need to tie Clapton more than just the mandate

57:39 Rock and roll icon Eric Clapton is the latest example, making news today for donating a van and 1,000 pounds to British anti-vax group Jam For Freedom. Ooh! As Rolling Stone reported today that's just the tip of the iceberg for Clapton He participated in one of singer Van Morrison's four anti lockdown songs last year Four? And he has spoken out against the vaccine John not three Not two FOUR! Singer Van Morrison No I'm Before you play that clip, I'm just making a couple of guesses about what's going to be in it. Okay. I want to make one. All right She very carefully describes that he did get vaccinated He wasn't...he's never been an anti-vaxxer but he did get vaccinated and got injured she talks about that i'm sure in this report Yeah she does actually yes okay good

58:30 But that's not it. Yeah, that's not it though. Four anti-lockdown songs last year and he's spoken out against the vaccine ever since he claimed he had adverse effects from it blaming pro-vaccine propaganda released an anti-vax song called this has gotta stop and went on tour of red america where he took a picture with bounty hunter bounty hunter texas governor greg abbott because Of course he did. So the red America that was in Austin, Texas you nut-nut? The most bluest part of America these days so that's where he was with Red America but okay. Now what really stands out about white anti-vaxxers in particular is that they act like... Please pay attention! Okay anti-vaxx.. No hoho he's white! He's white! What really stands out about white anti-vaxxers in particular is that they act like their freedom has been taken

59:20 taken from them and they have this weird habit of trying to do that by co-opting the history of actually oppressed people. Here it comes! Clapton is no different, he claimed that vaccine mandates are discrimination The lyrics of his song with Van Morrison include Do you wanna be a free man or do ya wanna be a slave? And as Rolling Stone points out By the way, if I could point out to you Joy both Jimmy and Eric are Brits. They're racists! Come on this is not a surprise but don't lay it on slavery from America

59:58 And at a concert in 1976, he went on a racist rant that included him saying stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Keep Britain white! It was particularly shocking at the time because Clapton's music was heavily influenced one might say appropriated by some black musicians. One of his biggest hits was a cover of Bob Marley's I Shot The Sheriff. Clapton has apologized for his racist past blaming it on his addictions to alcohol and drugs But his behavior over the past year is also questionable and as Rolling Stone put it, Clapton went from setting the standard for rock guitar to making full tilt racist rants and becoming an outspoken vaccine skeptic. Did he change or was always like this? I mean maybe just a jerk Oh that was really dynamite! Yeah i have to applaud her for taking it to Eric Clapton being a full-on evil racist

1:00:51 That's just beautiful. Because he didn't let you... By the way, coming from a Caribbean woman I'll give you the clip of the day for that. Thank you. Oh that is appreciated. Coming from a woman from the Caribbean She not an African-American Yeah But entertaining! Entertaining? Well they pay her top dollar Can you believe it What else you got? I have plenty of stuff. I don't know what's in your clips, so let's see what... Well let's go right there. I have a variety of clips most of them all you know Let's do the ones as we would just kind of on the topic since you mentioned Pfizer minute ago get somehow getting out Of that NTD report As it is a killer So they have to They're really promoting an NPR and i have two versions of the same story i have an alt version and the original

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NIH Study on Mixing COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters

A National Institutes of Health (NIH) study involving 458 participants suggests that mixing vaccine types for boosters may be effective. Specifically, those who received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine showed a significantly higher antibody response when boosted with Moderna or Pfizer. The hosts point out that this contradicts earlier guidance from the WHO against mixing formulations.

nih· npr· pfizer· moderna· johnson & johnson

1:01:44 The news that you should use the Pfizer... Johnson & Johnson's no good. We know that! And so you gotta give them a Pfizer shot as a booster And so they're promoting this story. Now, let's play the alt version of this first. This is a COVID booster news alt NPR. Since public health experts first started talking about COVID-19 vaccine boosters people have wondered if it best for vaccinated folks to get the same vaccine for their booster as they did for their initial shots? Or would it be better to mix things up and get a different vaccine as a booster? A highly anticipated study has produced some provocative answers. And joining us now with all the details is NPR health correspondent Rob Stein, hi Rob! Hey there Sarah! Okay so you've got me wondering what did they find

1:02:35 The bottom line is if you got either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccine, it looks like a Pfizer or a Moderna shot would work well as your booster. Moderna seems to work best but not all that much better than Pfizer so if Pfizer or Moderna was your first vaccine, it doesn't look like it matters very much as long as their booster is another one of these so-called mRNA vaccines But if you got the J&J vaccine, it really looks like you'd get the best response. If you don't get another J&J, the best is either getting Moderna or Pfizer next." We're staying away! "...levels of so-called neutralizing antibodies in people who got one of those shot up 10 to 20 times higher than if they just had another J&J shot!" Man... Okay here's what's missing from these reports

1:03:22 Throughout the entire rollout of vaccines, we've heard exact numbers. Okay they changed a lot We heard numbers of efficacy, we heard numbers of protection and this is just seems to be pretty good That's kind of that's better but what was really fantastic is this come on! This is... Just off the cuff. I think that would do it also reporting numbers if we go back to February March April of lab 2020 there was just edicts about don't mix these Yeah, yeah the World Health Organization said it don't make all mixed ease up They didn't even want you mixing Johnson and Johnson with Moderna

1:04:03 No, they're different formulations. They don't necessarily you know who knows what happens when you mix them up But now they're telling it's the best now It's the best way to go Now here's the here's the other version of that same story but it's a slightly different if I'm not mistaken and if it's too much The same you can kill it health officials The best choice for a booster for people who receive the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine appears to be either the Moderna or Pfizer shot. NPR's Rob Stein reports on the findings of a highly anticipated study from the National Institutes of Health Researchers studied 458 people who originally got the Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson and Johnson vaccine What did they eat? And then got either the same thing

1:04:48 This is a number, 458. That's the drop in the bucket. Same vaccine or one of the others as a booster four to six months later. The researchers found that it didn't make much difference whether those who originally got the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines got the same shot as their booster or the other so-called mRNA vaccine But people who got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine appeared to have a much stronger response if they got either Moderna or Pfizer shot next instead of another J&J shot. Food and Drug Administration advisors are meeting this week to consider Moderna and Johnson & Johnson's request to authorize their vaccines as boosters for their shots. Rob Stein, NPR News. Oh my God is he calling in from the car? I don't know but the point is that it's a small study and they still haven't got approval for any of this and they're pre-promoting it Yeah and Gottlieb was on CBS again

CHAPTER 21 / 49 Discussion

Scott Gottlieb on Vaccinating Children Ages 5 to 11

Former FDA Commissioner and Pfizer board member Scott Gottlieb discussed the upcoming CDC decision on vaccinating children aged 5 to 11. Gottlieb admitted that children are at lower risk from the virus and that data is still being collected on the "novel" vaccine. The hosts highlight his admission of uncertainty regarding long-term effects in children.

scott gottlieb· pfizer· cdc· pediatric vaccines· covid-19

1:05:49 And they have a new tactic, you know. Why don't we just survey the parents? That'll make it seem a lot better." According to the poll that we started our program with today more than 1 third of parents say they will vaccinate their 5-11 year olds right away A quarter of them will wait and see I'm wondering what that says to you and what you would be looking for in the language from CDC when they explain this to public Yeah, look I was actually encouraged by the results of that survey. There's a lot of parents like me that as soon as the vaccine is available for their children are going to go out and get their kids vaccinated that see the benefits of vaccination there's a lot of parents who still have a lot of questions around vaccination i think for them they should have a conversation with their pediatrician

1:06:34 to try to get comfortable with the idea of vaccinating kids. We now have the opportunity by the availability of this vaccine, uh, to more fully vanquish this virus and protect a broader swath of the population in terms of what CDC is likely to do. I think the question is whether or not they're going to say that this vaccine should be used in kids ages five to 11 or maybe used in kids ages five to 11 and perhaps enumerate kids who are at higher risk for whom a strong consideration should be made about deploying the vaccine. I think CDC's likely take a very cautious approach and children ages 5 to 11 in part because they're at less risk from COVID, in part because this is a new vaccine we're still collecting data about it. Oh! And its the novel virus What? So there's still some things we don't know. Oh! Hmm... Refreshingly honest Scott Gottlieb Pfizer board member

CHAPTER 22 / 49 Discussion

Medical Ethics and Refusing Treatment to Unvaccinated Patients

Art Kaplan of the NYU Division of Medical Ethics argues that it is ethically permissible for doctors to refuse treatment to unvaccinated patients to protect staff and other patients. The hosts compare this stance to historical medical discrimination and express concern that the healthcare system is abandoning its fundamental duty to treat the sick.

art kaplan· nyu· medical ethics· vaccine discrimination· healthcare

1:07:20 So what's a mistake? Oh yeah. And one of the big problems with the mandates or something that's looming is happening now is doctors, hospitals et cetera refusing to help patients refusing to do procedures if you're not vaccinated and there's lots of heart wrenching stories that you can get anywhere If you want some outrage started watching this when they start with people couldn't get transplanted kicked off the list That's ratcheting up now it's ratcheting up It's worse than ever I have a question Why does this one guy, the medical reporter for NPR keeps saying so-called mRNA vaccines? I don't know. I heard it too. You use that term so called when it's a misnomer Yeah, it is usually snarky Yes, so called tall guy So called yeah... So called podfather

1:08:13 Yeah, there you go. That would be one of them if you put it in quotes if you put in quotes Podfather called pod father huh but his so-called this okay? So what is so what does he mean when he says so called and all in a vaccine I don't know But are they not I mean have we been misled because I was convinced It was an mRNA vaccine all along This I don't know well It needs looking into back to my premise that this is happening that people can't get and again it's ratcheting up you can see it also staffing is going away so let's blame it on that too, lets blame a whole bunch of things. There are hundreds of thousands of health care workers per state like in New York its gonna be 100 thousand who are just stopping leaving It's not gonna be good.

1:09:03 On this whole concept of refusing to help patients because they have not been vaccinated, this is the medical ethics... Art Kaplan of the Medical Ethics Department at New York University. And he addresses this question, is it okay to basically kick your patient out of your practice or whatever if they haven't been vaccinated? Is it ethically okay and under what circumstances. Hi I'm Art Kaplan. I'm at the Division of Medical Ethics at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine in New York City. A couple of weeks ago a physician in Alabama said he'd had enough. He would not be seeing any more unvaccinated patients in his practice

1:09:45 A lot of other doctors are starting to think about following in his footsteps. Is it ethical to say, I'm not going to treat you if you're not vaccinated? Well it's a sticky issue and a complicated issue let me try and work through a little bit of the thinking. The Alabama doctor said It was too hard on him he suffered too much worrying about what was gonna happen to his unvaccinated patients I don't think that's a good reason. I do think a better reason might be, I have to protect my staff from unvaccinated people. I wanna keep people safe in my waiting room and I don't wanna be exposed to people with COVID for fear of a breakthrough infection. It also may make some sense to say if you won't follow my medical advice and do what I tell you to do there is no point in me taking you on as a patient

1:10:40 So under those terms, I think primary care people family doctors nurses who do primary care could say. I'm not taking on any patients who won't vaccinate man. I mean he's making it okay the ethics guy that's an unbelievable clip That's mind-boggling. I mean everyone has to stop in their tracks when you hear that. Yeah, because what's next? This entire medical system is out of control If you're not taking a prep then you might have AIDS so i don't want you my office

1:11:20 I mean, that's the same thing in essence. It is the same thing as well you won't take a TB patient Do people not take TB patients? Well, yeah they do but... Well maybe not anymore! In fact i'm not going to take anybody into my office That's sick! I don't want any sick people in my doctors office! Any sick people coming into the office and exposing other people to this sickness No just sick in general whatever sick you have Yeah what ever it is You got a cold get out What do you think am I a doctor? I'm a scientist, damn it Jim. Well... I'm not a doctor? This guy is clearly under the spell of the mass formation and it's so hard to blame everybody. I really want to humanize and I got another professor

CHAPTER 23 / 49 Discussion

Mass Formation and Crowd Psychology in the Pandemic

Professor Gigi Foster discusses the concept of "crowds" and "mass formation," comparing the current societal obsession with COVID-19 to the psychological state of Nazi Germany. She describes a "fluid morality" where individuals outsource their truth-seeking to leaders. The hosts apply this theory to both pro-lockdown advocates and participants in political rallies.

gigi foster· mass formation· crowd psychology· nazi germany· trump rallies

1:12:07 two part of this. She is the, this is Gigi Foster she's a professor at the University of New South Wales so she's in the middle of Australian lockdown etc and she has an opinion except she doesn't call it mass formation she calls it crowds and let's listen to her set us up for this. And the kinds of actions that crowd will take are these wild sacrificial actions, again in service to this perceived threat or whatever the narrative is. So in the case of the Nazis it was well we just have to kill them all, let's kill them all right? Massive massive human sacrifice on the basis of this one obsession with COVID I mean I won't say it was literally people being shot or gassed but it was definitely people being deprived of basic human freedoms

1:13:00 being deprived of happiness. And it was being done by crowds that were populated particularly by fanatical people who themselves suffered from having some kind of repression, so I noticed in this period that some of the most radical fanatical Jane types who are belonging to this pro-lockdown crowd What she's talking about obviously is everybody on Twitter. Or Facebook, uh-huh

1:13:38 But they had to kind of stifle all this stuff in their normal lives. But in a crowd, they could sort of let it all out and visit all of this nastiness that was almost in line with what they themselves had oppressed or suppressed in previous times onto others So it was a vehicle for mass bullying and mass deprivation of basic rights and freedoms that the Janes felt in some sense was, again, a worthy sacrifice maybe because they themselves had to suppress these problems that they had. It all worked together to create an extended period of massive welfare destruction

1:14:18 So I think what is interesting, she's basically saying the same thing as Professor DeSmet was telling us only in different terms. And this is not just Democrats by the way it's not just people in blue states that people who are all into Well, I wouldn't even say QAnon but just people who are into other forms of pretty nutty stuff. You know thousands of sealed indictments kind of stuff which i enjoy. I listen to all of it to make sure I'm not missing on anything that might be coming by. Um...I think they're also in a state of hypnosis and for them its like this is the answer! This dream he's coming back you know or Trump is going appear from the mist and they are totally in the same state

1:15:02 I don't think they were, and maybe they were just as unhappy before it all happened. This is very evil stuff." And so here she is with a second part describing the mass hysteria. A crowd is something that most of your viewers won't be familiar with except in relation to the COVID period but was quite evident in previous generations. One of the types of crowds that you may be familiar with probably most familiar with is the Nazi Germany crowds. So when Hitler had those rallies Right. So a crowd is distinguished by its focus on one particular thing, right an obsession about one particular thing and everybody's obsessed about that thing all at once together. And there's a sense of community about it or we are linked in

1:15:45 with each other. We are close to each other, we are secure and not lonely because we all adhere to this one obsession. This is the most important thing right? And that creates a sort of glue that is extremely difficult to dislodge or dissolve right? Very difficult! In the crowd The people who belong, who have this shared obsession kind of had a sort of fluid morality and a fluid sense of what really is true. And that's when you saw in these Hitler rallies for example right? By the way that's exactly Trump rallies I think the people show up at Trump rallies are we know that a lot of those people were severely depressed before things happened

1:16:28 You know, they had a shit time in flyover states. And they're also grabbing onto one thing this is what's happening. I should mention that the last Trump rally which is...I don't have that one clip of it but they were discussing it and did that company does these broadcast on YouTube RBTV whatever its called They mentioned that about 90% of the people at the Trump rally was at the previous Trump rally. In other words, the Iowa rally was the same people and so it's becoming like a Grateful Dead group in a way Well, it's also he pretty much does all of his his performances at WWE Event places So it's where the wrestling crowd is that's where he always tries to get a venue

1:17:22 I think we've tried that. It's a very good idea, outstanding idea! A little bit just 30 more seconds of her. Oh yeah so the fluid morality...I think that occurs you know it's like oh well it's okay to do this and then it's not okay and people are all over the map and then uh then you know it's okay if he does it but not okay if they do it. You know this is that fluid morality. What I guess people would call what about-ism in that case? And that's when you saw in these Hitler rallies for example right people would simply immediately agree to pronouncements that they would normally, if they weren't in the crowd take decades to weigh up. Is it really true that my Jewish neighbor is out to get me somehow even though his father and my father fought together in the First World War or something like that? But this notion that oh yes they are all evil yep yep yep and then just people just

1:18:14 bought into that in a crowd, that shows you how much the sense of morality and the seeking of truth becomes outsourced by the crowd member to the crowd leader. I think that's it! So we got Fauci as one of those outsources Don Lemon wishes he was one of those but he is not We're still in the middle of mass hypnosis event Yeah, well we're stuck with it too. No not if everyone keeps speaking their truth which is hard that's the real battle I have two more series of clips from NPR because things are starting to break in certain areas Okay COVID origins this is starting to break This is gonna... Of course I don't want to say that we nailed this like within

CHAPTER 24 / 49 Discussion

WHO Re-investigation of COVID-19 Origins and SAGO Panel

The World Health Organization has formed a new 26-member scientific advisory group (SAGO) to investigate the origins of SARS-CoV-2. This follows a previous investigation that was widely criticized for being stonewalled by Chinese officials. The hosts remain skeptical, suggesting the new panel is a geopolitical distraction from current pandemic policies.

who· sago· china· covid origins· lab leak

1:19:14 a week of the COVID outbreak, because we did. But the mainstream has got to find a way to back into this and into reality because they have to... All this is happening over last year or two years that's going to have to be explained eventually And so they try to get back to reality. Let's go COVID origins part one. It is the big question of this pandemic, where did this virus come from? Did it spill over from bats? Did it make the jump to humans at an exotic meat market was that the result of a laboratory incident Nearly two years after the first COVID case was identified, the origin of the virus remains a controversial and unanswered question. NPR's Jason Bobian reports The World Health Organization is assembling a new team to try to answer just that. What? The WHO has named 26 scientists from around the world to sit on what it's calling the Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens or SAGO for short

1:20:12 The panel has been given a broad mandate to investigate any and all future outbreaks of unknown origin, but it is also charged specifically with looking at the roots of SARS-CoV2. China has been desperate to deflect criticism that it was slow to identify the new coronavirus an earlier WHO team was stonewalled by Chinese officials and in the end failed to provide a definitive answer for where SARS-CoV-2 came from The WHO's head of emergencies, Mike Ryan says this new advisory group will likely face some of the same geopolitical challenges that have stymied other investigations. This has never been an easy process in many countries we've had difficulties in the past at a number of countries because there were real

1:20:51 issues, there are sensitivities, there are economic issues. There are national pride issues or sovereignty issues and you can't ignore that they exist." The structure of this panel which nominally looks at all new pathogens and not just COVID appears to be an attempt to diffuse some of those concerns and sensitivities of China COVID has now killed nearly 5 million people worldwide. It's crippled the global economy, and Ryan says in order to prevent future pandemics we need to understand the origins of this one. Right now this is our best chance and it may be our last chance to understand the origins of this virus in a collegiate collective and mutually responsible way I can't overstate that this is an opportunity but it is also a challenge First of all

1:21:39 When the WHO first did this, they already went into China and looked around. They came out with a definitive answer – no it didn't come from China! Or am I wrong? Am I misunderstanding what happened the first time that the WHO decided to go figure out what happened? Not only that but if you said such things then you were deemed a racist Well there's that too So now all of sudden the WHO is reconvening a new panel Did they admit their first panel was NO GOOD?! I haven't not seen such communication. So anyway, I find this to be very annoying the way they're doing this but let's play part two The WHO's Maria Van Kerkhove says the world has no time to waste in examining what happened in 2019 In the very early days of the pandemic she expects some of that work will involve trips to China I anticipate that the Sago and its discussions about their urgent next steps

1:22:35 for understanding the origins of the current pandemic, will recommend further studies in China and potentially elsewhere. China can veto any visit from researchers sent by Sago but Van Kerkhove says she's optimistic that China will cooperate with the group. Of the 26 scientists on the new advisory panel each member is from a different country and one is a deputy director at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing So wait a minute I'm trying to understand so are they So the World Health Organization, CARECO that's the Dutch lady or born Dutch I think. So they are putting together yet another panel to go investigate this but they probably can't get in anyway? This is weird. Yeah sounds like it. This whole report is weird what are they trying to do? They're trying to tell the truth and they're being...they're playing games with what you're doing! But who were telling me the World Health Organization is trying to tell the truth?! I think so

1:23:36 Unless, unless okay well you're gonna take the other side of this which what you would say would be no this is just another scam. Well it's either just another distraction... Better done! A distraction because this is not what people are worried about right now that is NOT the number one question about the pandemic The number one question now is will it kill me and can I get around without it? That's the question It may be a setup to blame something else, though. That's what I'm kind of hoping we'll see. A third option? A third option that one I didn't even consider. Yeah, third option might be the way to go now my last series which is the COVID this is the dumbest they're mostly short but this is probably the stupidest NPR breakdown anything they've ever done really that's hard to top They have done a lot of dumb stuff

CHAPTER 25 / 49 Discussion

NPR Guide to Safe Hugging and Pandemic Etiquette

NPR featured a multi-part series on the "etiquette" of hugging and handshaking during the pandemic. The segments suggest "shimmying" to gauge comfort levels and asking for vaccination status before physical contact. The hosts ridicule the advice as "psychotic" and "exasperating," arguing it fuels unnecessary social anxiety and germaphobia.

npr· covid etiquette· hugging· handshakes· social distancing

1:24:31 Well, okay. You've got me on that but this is pretty bad This is an entire I only have parts of it and a kind of an expose on hugging And how can we hug? What's good were hugging during the pandemic and they make a whole story out of this Oh didn't we weren't there stories at the very beginning about hugging? Oh yeah, you can't hug So you're going to hear, these are five-parter. Some of the stupidest NPR stuff you've ever heard in your life and some of it's interesting but most of it is pretty dumb. Let's go with clip one. If you're not a hugger the pandemic has been the perfect excuse to never hug again but for those of us who like to hug the pandemic has felt cold isolating even now with so many vaccinated that Delta variant can cause breakthrough infections

1:25:24 So we wanted to know, is it okay to hug? What about handshakes and kisses. We turn now to NPR Health Editor Mark Silver to answer those questions. Hello! Hello Lulu. Is it risky when both people are vaccinated Well, first you have to remember how you catch COVID. If someone is infected they'll breathe out respiratory and aerosol droplets that can transmit the virus so close contact like a hug can be risky but vaccination brings that risk way down So even if you're in contact with someone who's vaccinated and has been infected without knowing it That person breathes out far fewer infected particles than someone who's not vaccinated

1:26:05 Uh, no. Yeah there you go right off the bat! No? That's not what we've heard?! No that's not what... We've been told just the opposite that the person that has been vaccinated is carrying the COVID around they got tons of it in their nose mostly yeah much more yeah hmm so we get a little mixed message. Wait wait that's misinformation man! That's disinformation it's not okay We should report them. Okay, onward! Part two. Wait a second, it sounds to me like you're saying for vaccinated people hugging isn't very risky? Well it comes down to a phrase we're hearing a lot during the pandemic level of risk what level of risk are you okay with for example is the person you're hugging someone who works in health care or a school where they're exposed to lots of other people In that case you might decide to pass because their risk of exposure to coronavirus is higher The risk is also greater for people who are immunocompromised

1:27:07 And it's worth thinking about where you'll be hugging, indoors or outdoors. Indoor hugs are riskier because outdoors the moving air helps disperse infected particles." You know this crisis... This pandemic has been a boondoggle for losers everywhere with a piece of paper that gets them on NPR and NPR and all these outlets are so starved for a new voice they'll put anybody on with anything! I think this guy is an internal Well, there you go. They hired him even worse he's not even a stringer! Bring this guy in he's great oh we did a whole series on hugging it was fab! It was such great human... it was a human interest piece that's what this is this is a human interest piece of COVID

1:27:57 Yeah, I guess it is. Technically here we go with hugging three. Right? We've all had this weird awkward moment though right when we see someone we haven't seen for a long time No And we're not sure how they feel about hugging I do this weird awkward dance where i kind of put my hands up in the air and kind of like shimmy to see if you're if they want a hug or not, it's embarrassing. I mean what is the etiquette these days? I'm not sure i'm going to try a shimmy but the new etiquette is state your preferences don't just go in for a spontaneous hug you could say hey i'm vaccinated i'd love to give you a hug are you vaccinated too and on the other hand if you know that that person just got off a six-hour flight or went to an indoor concert it's fine to say let's just mask up first uh...I think this is where i can use the word exasperating

1:28:47 I think am i using it correctly now? Because that's how I feel. Well, it gets worse but the worst is yet to come so let's go with hugging covid hugging 4 all right so important all right excuse me I have to say something to the passengers in case you feel any motion sickness and you feel like you want to vomit, there are little bags in the seat pocket inside of you. What about the kids who are too young for a vaccine? You know they're huggers they need hugs! If kids are involved check with their parents is it okay if I hug your kid or if you're the parent ask is it okay if my kid hugs you so we heard a lot about the death of the handshake at the start of the pandemic everyone was doing those elbow bumps kind of like a chicken dance Are they still risky

1:29:33 Let's say I have a breakthrough infection and I don't know it. And maybe I sneezed or coughed in my hand, so you reach out your hand, I reach out my hand and touch you. Stop! Violation! You sneeze wrong! You're supposed to sneeze into your elbow, so if you sneeze into your hand, you're a bad person. Maybe I sneezed or coughed in my hands, so you reach out your hand, I reach out my hand and touch you. Then you are going to take your hand to your face inevitably because we touch our faces many times without even knowing it. So there is an element of risk. If you do handshake, you might want to hand sanitize right after. Although one professor I interviewed told me she feels safer with the elbow bump because you'd have to be a pretty talented contortionist to bring your elbow to your eyes nose or mouth

1:30:12 I come from a culture where you actually kiss people on the cheek to say hello. It is very common among Latinos to just say hello and go, mwah! Latinx! I'm assuming that that is probably not going to be okay? Well when COVID was peaking in France — and you know the French are big big cheek-kissers — the president urged people to give up cheek kissing but now he's rescinded that. I believe he's cheekkissed in public. And cheek kisses pretty quick You'd have to actually wipe where someone kissed you on the cheek. You'd have to take your hand, wipe that spot with your hand and bring your hand to your mouth or nose so not high risk. Oh parents don't let your children listen to NPR they might turn out like this guy This is very very very sad what he's doing here Now a couple of things that the last What value is this to their NPR listeners? Because this is a major concern to them are you nuts

1:31:10 These are NPR listeners, they want to be hugging at the grocery store at the vegetable store. With their burlap bag! Yes! They got their dirty old bag that's so grimy that they put food in it and don't use plastic bags and load up in this beat-up ol' bag with tomatoes squished in it. Made in China. It probably has rotten mold in it. Made in China? chemicals. And then they're going into their little purse and they're picking out a penny to have something paid right to the nickel. But now they're using the card, they put it in at the last minute... By the way people out there you can put the credit card in early at most checkouts You can put it in after the first thing is run up Put your card in take care of all the punching in the codes and whatever Hey! You're irked by this because you've said this before Do you mention this to people online?

1:32:16 Do you say, hey lady! Yeah you old bag. You can put the card in now do you? I am a quarter inch oftentimes from doing exactly what you just described me to be. You should just use cash man so that you could hold up everybody behind you look at that old fuck with his cash. You'd be pounding painting out the pennies one by one i don't think every single supermarket has that by the way Okay, so let's go to the last clip and now it just goes into the absurd. And so let's listen to this But then there's the air kiss in an air kiss you're blowing air in someone's face Don't do it unless you're blowing the kiss from across oh I don't know a football field Wow I'm sure this guy knows that ass kissing at NPR will get you everywhere

1:33:11 including on this show. is that what is this thing about, okay you shook somebody's hand and then you touch your face. And oh! You're doomed. Now why are you doomed if you touched your... I mean I can see if you rubbed your eye or licked your fingers there's a lot of different things where he can introduce the virus but so I shake a hand and then scratch myself and rub my face just very slightly over by the jaw line

1:33:53 What did they, is it imagined that these little viruses are look or they have legs and they walk their way up to the mucus membrane? Well what's the deal. Well you're forgetting something this is a binary issue shaking someone's hand touching your face It's probably not that harmful unless you're also an NPR listener then I'm afraid you gonna die Well, I hope so. And you know what? I think stories like this that puts people on edge...I think it gives people psychosis! There was even a CDC alert...

1:34:33 It was after 9-11 for sure, I don't know how many years. I came across it the other day and it said you know people who in America, United States but anywhere, CDC specific who are worried about terrorism could easily develop psychosomatic symptoms of stuff so you know how much of these stories make people nuts and they think that they got cooties on their face and freaking out or is this just fluff at this point? No, I think you're wrong. I think people are freaking out. They get very serious when they give these reports it's not as though there a couple of jokers just trying to frighten the public they're frightened themselves. She is sincere asking these questions. That's true you got a point there hmm well i was stressed by all this stuff but NPR is just horrible There's a lawsuit this would be the final thing I've got There's a lawsuit from a number of scientists

CHAPTER 26 / 49 Discussion

Scientist Lawsuit Against FDA for Vaccine Documentation

A group of scientists has filed a lawsuit against the FDA, demanding the immediate release of all documentation used to approve the COVID-19 vaccines. Under federal law, such data should be public once a marketing license is granted. The hosts suggest the delay is due to potential financial improprieties or lack of rigorous data.

fda· transparency· vaccine approval· lawsuit· freedom of information

1:35:33 who are calling the FDA to account, the law states that after a vaccination has been approved in this case the marketing license whatever that approval was immediately all documentation how the FDA came to that decision has to be published for review by the public. And they have, to date not done that and that's why scientists are now suing and they're saying... Really? Yeah! They're saying wait a minute we don't know where it came from you're not allowed to ask anything about it. You know vaccines approved but you're not allowed to know how they achieved that decision How they got to that decision

1:36:23 Well, this seems obvious at what the document would show. It'd sound like this if you had a recording of it because okay one two three four five for you one two three four five for you that's 500-500 1 2 3 4 5 okay another thousand one two three get five Okay You get $5,000 and one to three you get ten And one two three and that would be the way they came to the conclusion Yeah Then the Pfizer guy would leave Well, that's clearly when you're talking about the health of millions of people. That's not really a cool way to do it So the scientists are suing and again back in the good old American spirit let's sue him That's what we're good at that so that's really what we're good at so I have my last clip And this is a clip from that doctor this guy is not gonna be on YouTube much longer This funny guy named dr.. Campbell. I thinks his name is

CHAPTER 27 / 49 Discussion

Merck Refusal to Study Ivermectin and Nobel Prize Connection

Kitasato University in Japan requested that Merck conduct clinical trials for ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, but the company declined. The hosts note that ivermectin's co-discoverer, Satoshi Omura, won the Nobel Prize in 2015. They speculate that Merck's refusal is based on the drug being off-patent and therefore not profitable compared to new proprietary treatments.

merck· ivermectin· satoshi omura· nobel prize· clinical trials

1:37:19 same name as the guy who invented ivermectin. And he does a little bit on the Ivermectin, uh... A Japanese university inviting Merck to study ivermectin as a COVID thing and so this is Ivermectin invites- And who was this doctor? Is this guy Campbell you've seen You actually have had a clip from him before He's the one that discussed how to give the shot properly Ah! The British guy Yeah, he's kind of I guess. Whatever he is yeah like semi-bald and he seems smart. Yeah okay got it. Kitasho University said this this is a direct quote from their article based on the judgment that it is necessary to examine the clinical effect of iron methane prevent the spread of uncertain COVID 19 this university Kishato University Asa Murakuko

1:38:14 to conduct clinical trials of ivermectin for Covid-19 in Japan. Now we understand that the university, Kishato University was going to give them their facilities and infrastructure and we understand that they're linked with a lot of national bodies in Japan so they could have facilitated a clinical trial there which makes perfect sense why did they go to Merck about this? Well this company has prioritised as an application for an expansion of ivermectin's indication since the original approval for the manufacture and sale of ivermectin was conferred to it. And we know that Merck very generously indeed has given millions and millions of doses, to help eradicate scourges of parasitic disease in the developing world so full marks to Merck for its track record on ivermectin in terms of facilitating its availability as an anti-parasitic medication

1:39:05 So you would imagine that Merck would jump at this chance, wouldn't you? You'd have thought. Anyway they said however the company said it had no intention of conducting clinical trials Now a cynic might say that's because ivermectin is out-of-patent and you can't sell it and make a profit for it because any generic manufacturer can make it but what do I know? I don't know! That's the paper from The American Journal of Therapeutics and these are the authors Now it looks like this is the lead author here, looks like that's the second author. That's the third author and it looks like this is a third author The third authors are Dr Satoshi Omura And Satoshi Omura works at Kishato University or as associated with it says there In fact he works in the Omura-Satoshi Memorial Institute because This is the man who won the Nobel Prize with Doctor Campbell in 2000

1:39:58 2015 for his discovery of ivermectin. Now what he doesn't mention in this whole thing is that Omoro's, whatever his last name was the Japanese researcher... His partner like he said is this Campbell guy who I talked to Oh right yeah you emailed him didn't you? No I called him and who refuses to discuss Ivor Mecz at all because he still works for Merck. Yeah, not only does he work for Merck but he knows that he can't do it because he will die

1:40:42 Well he's already 95 so I think you know. Well then what's his, he's 95? Yeah no he's in his 90s. Well this guy is an asshole! He needs to come out and immediately state what he knows. He has a couple years left and he is keeping that because he works at Merck?! No he has got a big pension or something like that... Oh oh well that guy is horrible, he's a Nazi Well, I don't know. I'm not gonna call him that but I will say this is that this little idea they let Merck do a test when they were given the facilities of a major university and free rain They just won't do it Why? Why won't they do it? It's pretty obvious there's something to this Yeah

CHAPTER 28 / 49 Discussion

No Agenda Stream and Social Media Infrastructure

The hosts discuss the "Troll Room" and the decentralized "No Agenda Social" network based on Mastodon. They emphasize the importance of an algorithm-free, ad-free communication platform for their community. Listeners are encouraged to create their own instances to further decentralize the network.

no agenda social· mastodon· fediverse· troll room· ad-free

1:41:21 They want us dead. There's no other answer, there is no other answer but with that I will thank you for your courage for facing the danger head-on and say in the morning to you the man who put the C's in Clapton's coof ladies and gentlemen Mr John C Zavorak! Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground Heat in the air, saps in the water. And all the games and nights out there." Yes! At a big in the morning to The Trolls In The Troll Room Let's have a little count hands up there trolls what we got going on here? Ah low low low 1921 Low What's going on it's your fault I knew it It's low I'm guessing as last show We had...I don't think even had of a COVID segment So you're saying because we didn't have a COVID segment last show

1:42:17 I'm guessing that people only tune in to us nowadays just for COVID. No, but I think the opposite is true! The opposite! Well we should have more people today... And we had COVID on the last show absolutely what are you talking about? I don't remember anything because you didn't do it. Oh I know I had zero COVID clips Yeah you had zero I had COVID clips yeah there weren't a lot Okay, whatever the case is. People keep telling us not to talk about COVID. You love doing this so I'm gonna do it to you now let me go check and we'll look at it because you know It's all about truth today So let's see, I had COVID Down Under. We had ivermectin we had Pfizer oh yeah so it's six clips we had Mataibi that's not really but was more joking yes so there were clips and the Pfizer whistleblower good clips from that convinced? Yeah I'm totally convinced

1:43:13 So trolls... You sold me. So the trolls, it would be nice if you guys could up it a little bit that would be good to see you there but maybe they're slipping away? Maybe there's something wrong with the troll room There are people who I know except I got a letter from some guy saying hey hey you know why can't get a name and I can't go into the troll room Yeah you should block that guy just block him just block him People ask those questions block them No never I don't block for that reason That is trollroom.io if you want to find out what all the hoopla is about then go there, trollroom.io You'll notice there's also a player where you can listen to the No Agenda stream It's... What do we call that thing?

1:43:58 I forgot. NoagendaStream.com, that's what it is. Noagendastream.com which is always the live shows and there are many of them throughout the week and of course podcasts from all around Gitmo Nation. It's All Talk, it's no agenda for sure and zero commercials you love it check it out! You can also follow us at No Agenda Social Adam at noagendasocial.com, that's part of the Fediverse, part of the Mastodon network of servers is decentralized we love it that way would love if you create another NoAgenda Mastodon instance and then hook it up to ours and we can have everything flowing back-and-forth You can also follow John, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com It is truly an algo free way to communicate And a lot of the trolls are there but just a lot of the producers in general

CHAPTER 29 / 49 Discussion

Episode 1389 Artwork Review and 14th Anniversary Announcement

The hosts review listener-submitted artwork for the previous episode, ultimately selecting a piece featuring "Green Army Men" by Correct a Record. They also announce the upcoming 14th anniversary of the show on October 24th, promising a week of celebrations and special events for the "Gitmo Nation" producers.

digital art· green army men· ccp· 14th anniversary· gitmo nation

1:44:46 And it's, uh... Yeah. I get more from that than from Twitter and a lot less nuttiness to be sure Now let's take a look at the artwork who needs to congratulate Corrector Record who brought us a piece of fabulous art for episode 1389 We titled it Wigglesworth we had trouble with the title quite honestly you didn't want to do Let's Go Brandon! I didn't have my notes anymore No, I didn't. We had-we had trouble just coming up with with a title and art, I can't remember what we do on the art because there were...I think they were number of things. This was the Green Army. No, we had it as usual

1:45:28 We both said, oh we gotta talk about this. Oh we gotta talk about that. And then we don't talk about any of it because we can't seem to remember that long and its'a very long time between Sunday and Thursday so I don't remember what art there was...oh yeah there was the one art with your head attached to some skinny guy. Oh no attached to your body! Yeah exactly wasn't a skinny guy It's clearly you're out-of-shape chest there Yeah, that was a non-starter. That was a non starter for us. But that's because it had an image we don't use images of either one of us because it was done for years on end and so he banned him but the picture of you with the $10 smooches by Nice Fox I thought was funny No, I didn't think the gag was funny. I didn't think art was funny The Taiwan soldiers from correct a record I thought was phenomenal

1:46:23 Which is the one that we ultimately chose and a lot of people like that. It triggered a lot of memories, of people stepping on little green army men before Lego. Before Lego you had green armymen for your parents to step onto. There wasn't anything else I'm looking at now that really stood out I do like the Harvest by Sean Rigaldo, which is the pumpkin patch. And i was going to use it for the newsletter but then I said I'm gonna use Pop Start instead. Curiously they had a pop start item in the morning

1:47:01 I want to keep this thing in a vance because it might be good for Halloween. It was the Halloween show. Yeah, it was a nice piece but just seemed out of... Out of context. Yeah, out of the timeline for us. What else is there? That's most of it. The CCP thing was kind of cute but wasn't going to used. Then some guy sent a big yellow block and I don't know what that was I've seen it. There was no doubt that the army guys were going to win that one It was also just a really well put together piece, wouldn't you say? Just from an art perspective Yeah i liked it, it was good. It was a good piece

1:47:43 All right, let's thank some of our producers executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1390 we're on our way to 1400 October 26. We will be celebrating our 14th anniversary We'll be doing that with the anniversary show beyond October 24th Okay And that will be celebrating with all of the producers from around Gitmo Nation is that Sunday? The 24th or Thursday Yeah It'll be a whole week of celebrations. It's going to be non-stop, there's gonna be... I mean it's just the festivities will be off the hook. I think we're bringing Bevo. Bevo is coming he's the Longhorns mascot We're gonna have him at the celebration so you can take a picture with Bevo and that buffalo! We don't have a buffalo Oh we get the Buffalo from Colorado University Colorado There ya go

CHAPTER 30 / 49 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The show conducts its "Value for Value" segment, acknowledging high-tier donations from producers. Notable contributors include Inga Carlson, who becomes a Dame, and Alexander Harrington, who is knighted. The hosts read personal notes from donors, many of whom express gratitude for the show's role in maintaining their sanity during lockdowns.

value for value· knighthood· damehood· donations· gitmo nation

1:48:35 Inga, Inga Carlson in Monroe Washington starts us off at $666.67 and she says she wants to give a shout out to Mark Harrington my husband's father who passed from CID October 17th 2017 only after he passed that i learned that he was a democrat or even that Or even that, or even that would bother me. But I had many conversations with him that shrunk my amygdala proving that we should judge others by the content of their character not by the bubbles on their ballot." Here here... He raised my husband who introduced me to Billy Bones and they both hit me in the mouth thank you for all your courage i'm a wiser calmer person because of it

1:49:27 This donation puts me into Damehood. Please Dame me as Dame Lady Getoverit." Wow, we can actually say that to a woman! Hey lady get over it! Hey lady get over it! Getoverit. DAME. At the round table I'd like some Lefse and raspberry jam? Yeah...I ordered it but have never seen Lefse. What's Lefse? Thought you were singles Obama. You might die and r2d2 karma love is lit yeah, okay? Let's see if you might die. You've got Karma it is a Norwegian Kind of like a flatbread can also be used a bit like a crepe and it's made of potato oh Yeah interesting Alexander Harrington from Monroe Washington two in a row from wait a minute do you think they know each other these two I

1:50:26 Well, it's a random number and it is extreme if not. That is coincidental 598 From Monroe Washington says this donation tips me over the edge for my knighthood accounting blow as well as some extra pennies for the jar. Yes, I'll drop them in right now Please knight me sir hopscotch of the digital horde so that i may look down upon the slaves at the duval meetup please hit me with some r2dq karma we're all gonna die two to the head oh my goodness uh Two to the head and look at that juice Yeah, I think i have that for you. Hold on where's the juice? Do we have uh... And what else let me see it's too much for me to do and We're all gonna die to the head Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice?! And the R2D2 karma You've got Karma Zachary Freitas in Pacific Grove California Uh 336.66

1:51:37 And he says, Roganite de-douche me please. You've been de-douched! Y'all saved me from menticide on my way back home from a failed tour to SXSW South by Southwest in 2020 Met my smote girlfriend Sarah last year and now she's a douchebag Does she need to be called out because he didn't ask for a call? I think so, he's got it in all caps. All caps douchebag of special kind. Add her to the birthday list, I think she is on there October 14th John can you say happy birthday little pill! I think its Lil Pill

1:52:24 Okay, I'll try it again. Yeah a couple takes happy birthday lil pill yeah, I think you you wavered try it again It's not quite perfect Mm-hmm happy birthday little pill yeah nailed it let's take that's a wrap all right everybody to five And we continue with Mathieu Peters or Peters, it would be Mathieu Peters from Tilburg in the Netherlands. 333-33 I didn't get a note did you see anything from... I got nothing. Mathieu? You'll send it to us if you find out there was something else you wanted to say however if you forgot to send it don't make it a really long Make Good because man when people mess up the notes and then its really long Make Goods makes it tough on the programming schedule

1:53:06 Owen Marsh sent us a note though from Dunrobin, Ontario. Canada, 3333 This is my first time donating I started listening regularly last summer during the height of the corona madness. I got sucked into the fear during January 2020 after seeing videos coming out of China and stocked up on food supplies and N95s We're not alone When it finally arrived in North America, nothing really happened and nothing really happened. I breathed a sigh of relief and assumed that the worst was over yet everyone else picked that point to lose their minds and i've been teetering on the verge of angry insanity ever since!

1:53:42 Your show has definitely helped me understand what's going on. Yeah, you can relative it or put relativate...relevated for relative that yeah thanks the winter of 2021 2020-2021 Ontario lockdown which really didn't begin to end until July It was horrible and not something anyone should have to live through. I'm currently traveling the free states of Southern USA where i can live like a normal human being again it's been such a help for my sanity, I'll be attending the Orlando meetup this Sunday and look forward to meeting everybody! I need a de-douching... You've been dedouched And I would love to hear Biden get vaccinated and the no and please pick a karma for me is there good one for vagabonds?

1:54:25 It's good for vagabonds. Mason is an Asian dog to be too for sure no the r2d2 with a Little robot was a vagabond was he a vagabond or two d2 yeah, I think so No You've got karma Beth Visser in Ladakh Leduc I think it's Leduc Alberta Canada three three three dot three three Happy 42nd birthday October 13th my spoken hot dilf Patrick for from your wife Your brothers and parents, so I'm not sure they'll agree with my terms of endearment ha calling him a deal

1:55:11 A dude I love. He's been a listener since 2008 and has yet to miss an episode! He successfully hit me, AND his brothers in the mouth though we're contributed- And though we've contributed to his eventual knighthood the rest of us are douche douche bags Douche Dutchbags Oh douche Dutchbags oh yes Douche Dutchbags We hear in the morning and sucking in soot all day long as there are his phone notification sounds. I like the idea of sucking in soot

1:55:48 which is a constant reminder to stay awake. We're staying firmly away from the clot shot." Ooh! Considering we had COVID run through our home, no one isolated in their rooms and only two out of five were positive cases. I've slept next to him the whole time and he never got the virus. I guess she did. Sure are the most deadly and transmissible virus out there!" Without a doubt nice try government well on the topic we should like to add true dough to Adams list of the head shaved Marching them naked down Main Street He will look pretty interesting. Oh, he'd be proud

1:56:33 Patrick's brothers, all good Dutch boys have requested Adam to read the following phrase if he would be so inclined. I will do it! Ieder voor zich en Godt voor ons allen Please de-douche us. Oh, sure. You've been de-douched! If you think contributing his birthday gift counts of course it does but if not the wife and brothers remain douche Dutch bags. Karma to all the awake listeners a sucking in soot and jingle of your choice perhaps an old classic that hasn't been used in awhile

1:57:13 to round it out. We appreciate all you both do to keep us sane in an insane world, thanks again." Okay I can do that for ya...I think? Oh! It's so old when i clicked on it I got- I got an error. Uh okay well we're gonna have to look for something else. You might die! Suckin' and suckin'! You've got karma. It was an old one

1:58:09 And we got Tina Hewitt. Tiana. Tiana Hewitt, thank you. 333 John Adam thanks for the best podcast in the universe this donation is dedicated to my husband Chris in honor of our anniversary which is today as well as his birthday which is on Saturday thanks for being the best husband dad and friend We don't know how many years you've been together without a fight this is an incorrect message Yeah, I agree. He donated for my birthday back in August somehow managed to screw up the note could not be found by John I think he got that subject line wrong Mm-hmm if it doesn't have donate or donation so hopefully this one lands It did our Thursdays and Sundays are forever changed Thanks to y'all please add Chris to the birthday list for 1016 and like your quest a de douching for him sure You've been deduced As well as See some sleep karma

1:59:03 Sleep Karma, okay and our favorite Heavenly Farts Thanks again Tiana. Well of course we can do that for you before we begin let's pray Let's pray heavenly farts Heavenly Father You've got karma Okay this one is for you because they were requesting one of your voices. Let's see Douglas Longenecker okay 333 instructions for Adam to read in combo stoner and Dutch voice. What am I a monkey? Yeah, let me see if I can do this Let me see if I can do this. I don't know that you have you ever done a stoner Hey, hey, hey, hey our Dvorak your hour clothes sock how'd you back after you mark my head will kick this That's that show does it sound good

CHAPTER 31 / 49 Discussion

Global Supply Chain History and Taiwan Diplomatic Relations

A detailed donation note from Sir Largeman in London provides a historical overview of Taiwan's diplomatic status. It explains how the Republic of China (ROC) lost its UN seat in 1971 and how Jimmy Carter severed official ties in 1979. The discussion highlights Taiwan's current critical role in the global semiconductor supply chain through companies like TSMC.

taiwan· republic of china· jimmy carter· richard nixon· tsmc

1:59:57 I guess, yeah. It's pretty good. Thanks gents! And it's English now too... I can't do it. I'll do a Dutch only. Thanks gents this puts me well over half of a night. I'm looking forward to the meetup in Bastrop Texas this week or as my douchebag jealous fatter brother listener who turned me on to the show says ball strap Texas douche bag Consider this money... This is trap. Balls Trap Texas, that's actually pretty good! I like that. Hey it's funny he made a funny considering this money dating consider this money dating karma as i'm still single and hoping to hold down the kissing booth at the meetup as Adam seems have bailed out Sean

2:00:40 I'll be over in the corner with a bag of mushrooms and rancid adrenochrome for any spooks who want to kiss, but they're not easy because of JC these days. Love & Lit from Doug. Pretty good huh? I like it! I love that voice. Clayton Moore... Clayton Moses is next on the list 333 from Anchorage, Alaska. Please give a house selling and traveling karma to my friends Van, Kristen and family! Love the show! Jingle request China's asshole and faux chouise this is a great note it's exactly the right length I completely agree China is asshole! You've got karma Sorry that's true didn't come out

2:01:30 I didn't hear the request for that, Stu. It says... Rob McCauley's next 333. I consider this an even better note. ITM thanks for your courage love is lit jingles don't enslave me Camilla shut up slave and get vaccinated no yeah what i have to do is after put the get vaccinated and then know I need to put that together People are asking for it a lot. Twice already I know every single time i do is two separate clips It always takes me second to get it set up and also a karma no karma no karma Don't unslay Kama Shut up slay Get the facts No Perfect Sir Largeman Baron of Bali 23456 from London United Kingdoms In the morning gents its Sir Largeman Baron of Bali writing to you from London where I currently reside

2:02:28 I can't tell whether John's bewilderment over why the US didn't recognize the Republic of China back in 1945 was a genuine and innocent question or just his way of goading me into donating some money so i can set the record straight as a citizen of Taiwan. First of all, it was...I was goading him specifically knowing he's in Taiwan that's good this is a very good piece of information people should pay careful attention to Well, I'll bite he says. The fact of the matter is when Chiang Kai-shek lost the civil war to Mao's Communist Party and fled to Taiwan to set up shop there... ...the ROC government in Taiwan continued to be recognized as legitimate China by the US and other world powers This is good

2:03:13 ROC China was part of the UN and held its seat on the UN Security Council all the way until 1971 when a resolution was passed that recognized the PRC as the only legitimate representative of China instead. And then in 1979, Jimmy Carter got chummy with the PRC and finally severed diplomatic ties with Taiwan." I didn't know that's how it went down! Other countries followed suit and Taiwan became completely isolated on the world stage. Then it fought its way back to asserting itself as an important player in the global tech supply chain, among other industry sectors. Today the importance of companies like TSMC and Foxconn to the global economy is one of the reasons why the US cannot afford to let PRC destabilize Taiwan

2:03:55 No jingles, no karma. Love is lit love you mean it sincerely Sir Largeman and this This to me in contrast to your thinking this is a perfect donation note This is what I want from producers Well we're getting deep information Yeah Now couple of things about this both parties were at fault here because it was Nixon and 71 who Of course, Nixon was also responsible for opening up China. It was part of the quid pro quo deal when he sent Kissinger over there. So there were some hanky-panky going on between Nixon and the PRC. And then Carter comes along like a bonehead and cuts off all ties to Taiwan which is ludicrous because we sell him tons of armaments so we're not really cut off from Taiwan.

2:04:47 But would you we have to kind of be this is like also the green army men sick? The Green Army men they were selling us stuff We had that I had all kinds of stuff from Taiwan in the 70s the Green Army yeah, and my rack my tennis racquet. Oh do okay Well, we appreciate that. That's a really good note thank you Yeah I...that's something that need..we need to read We need to know that so we do now sorry Sorry i had it wrong and I was....I didn't really have it wrong I was just complaining Neither of us...I don't think any of us really know I mean I've never paid attention to that China in general It's like What I like about the note is he boils it down Real quick yeah Cause' I'm sure if you started trying to research this yourself You get it'd be a mess I agree

2:05:34 Camaro Esperanza, $210.14 is next and he writes I hope this secures an AP ship for my sister Liz Jackson of Lilburn Georgia on her birthday 10-14 I don't think she's on the list because it's not in yellow oh hold a second This is my first donation But all of the deducing belongs to her, so she needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched! The karma goes to her and her husband John and their menagerie. This is from Camaro Esperanza So that's Liz Jackson and she celebrating today

CHAPTER 32 / 49 Discussion

Religious Exemptions and Invasive HR Questionnaires

The hosts examine a USDA questionnaire for employees seeking religious exemptions from vaccine mandates. The form asks invasive questions about the history of the employee's beliefs and their past use of other vaccines. Legal experts cited on the show argue these questions are illegal and violate established privacy and religious freedom protections.

usda· religious exemption· vaccine mandates· privacy· labor law

2:06:24 Yes. And from whom? I'm sorry, could you just give me that info? From Camaro Esperanza Okay yeah with that one got missed so it's on excellent and a karma sure thing You've got Karma Let's see Taylor counter 233 i have no note from taylor I will look one up while you play the next song. I'll move to Tim Hurd from Austin, Texas It's just a tad bit down the road these days. I've been listening for awhile thought I should donate before meeting y'all at the Texas meetup Please de-doosh me You've been de-dooshed No other jingles required and i would like to remind everybody uh or remind have an announcement you can no longer sign up for The Ballstrap Texas Meetup

2:07:20 It is full. They cannot have any more people on the homestead, so if you have not RSVP'd stay away! We'll be shooting at ya'. It's too many people we want to keep all the goods and all the candy for ourselves in-on the 16th and Tina I'm very excited about this is gonna be a good one anything from Taylor? I heard they canceled The Kissing Booth Yeah they canceled a lot once once The Kissing Booth stuff started then like they cut out all kinds of stuff. The bouncy castle is still up in the air...I don't know Anything from Taylor? Nope, not a thing. Then we've got Brian McRoberts from Chesapeake Virginia also $200 associate executive producer anything from Brian? No I didn't look for him Okay why don't you look because we have one last donation from Trish Yeah here's one more and it's got a big note that you can read out Yeah I got it From Trish and Rick See if I can find anything from Brian Trish and Rick from Brighton Is this them yes

2:08:16 Hello John and Adam, here's another donation for the show. At the time of our first donation we were relatively new listeners and not quite sure about the format, the jargon etc Now that we've been tuning in for a while I love that phrase i love people still tune in We've gotten hang on this show and realize you are helping us to keep our sanity so let's keep this damn thing going they say Feel free to cash this check as long as you continue using terms like bullcrap Gadzooks. No, I've never... have you ever said gadzooks? Yes i have. Spook, douche, holy crap, jamoke, irks and jabroni and so forth so forth try as they might I've not been able to gain access through the troll room written instructions on that topic perhaps via email or posted to the no agenda website would be greatly appreciated apologies if I've overlooked them

2:09:07 Okay, well send me an email and I'll see if i can help you out. Callout Steven in Ferndale Michigan who has been an avid listener for several years but to the best of my knowledge has never donated to the show what a douche! Hang in there kind regards Trish and Rick we thank them both very much for their support. I thought it was a good idea one of these days...I don't know how am going to bring this up The idea of doing a complete FAQ. Oh, you mean the one where we have our mission statement? No, the mission statement's separate that's done! Yeah where is it?! It's in my inbox... Okay well send it to me maybe we can put it somewhere that people can read it I'm going to send it now We have a Brian there's no Brian now and I got a bunch of stuff from Mike

2:09:57 Yeah, I don't have a Brian McRoberts either. It's okay they can... Okay But maybe we should uh you want to do some of these make good since we're here anyway? Yeah why don't you read a few Well we have quite a few so i'm not sure what happened with the Read about two or three well that's when I went to take the dog out and I guess the whole thing went off the rails yeah I don't think so Banshee Beck It says, oh this was something went wrong with this. Adam and John when my husband asked me what I wanted for my birthday this year... ...I told him that I wanted to donate to No Agenda and stop my douchebaggery! Please throw a dollar at my smoking hot husband and de-douche the both of us! You've been dedouched

2:10:36 And then she has a boots on the ground report from someone working for a major airline. We're working together and standing up against the mandate, all of the transportation industry is I don't have concrete evidence of what exactly happened over the weekend with Southwest but we have a huge group called Southwest Freedom Flyers yes who've seen it southweststands.com and we don't condone walkouts. We were working together in touch with legal teams, speaking with other airline employees sharing information and supporting each other United Airlines has a hearing in Texas on Wednesday that could help us learn how to navigate the exemption process. And I think they, United announced they were not putting a mandate in place yet so that may have been part of the outcome The questions they are asking us during the exemption process are wild and personally invasive. I hope we can turn this mandate on its head." Yeah, actually have a copy of that that i put in the show notes it's very rude particularly the religious... the religious questions like you know pretty much at the idea is

2:11:37 We don't believe you, so prove it. How many times do you pray? You know that kind of stuff is pretty... Yeah it's very rude and especially to anybody because there's none their business to begin with Thank you As somebody pointed out I think the guy who sent that in mentions It's an illegal question Illegal question There are HR issues looming for these companies who think they're gonna get away with this Well they put it in writing these idiots They put it literally in writing asking, that's so... I mean it has completely protected your religion. You don't have to classify? You didn't have to validate that you believe?

2:12:17 There was a law professor on the local radio station. I listened to it, it was in my car so they didn't get to record it but she was from and I figured she's gonna go all-in with the government but no she answers some Hastings Cal and he says this is very sketchy they can't do what they're doing they can't tell people you know if you have a religious reason for not taking it you don't have to say anything that's all that would that in itself is all you have to say I don't believe i should take this vaccine because of my religion. You don't have to explain why, you don't have to explain what religion your part of, you don't have to do anything! You will probably be out of a job but at least you'll be able to have some recourse because there's no way that they can ask that. You may get some money on the back end. Might? I'm just looking...I'm looking to see where was that uh.. I know I put it in there under mandates maybe

2:13:10 Well, it's in the show notes. Definitely take a look at it because... Oh here it is! Crazy religious exemptions I got it here and this was actually from the USDA This is the USDA You think they know better? Yeah let's see Please describe the nature of your objection to the COVID-19 vaccination requirement Question 2 Would complying with the COVID-19 vaccination requirements substantially burden your religious exercise if so please explain how I don't think you have to explain that. No, just say yes. Three... How long have you held the religious belief underlying your objection? None of your business! Please describe whether as an adult you've received vaccines against any other disease such as flu vaccine or tetanus vaccine and if so what vaccine you most recently received and when to the best of your recollection

2:14:00 None of your business and illegal. If you do not have a religious objection to the use of all vaccines, please explain why your objection is limited to particular vaccines? None of your business! Is there if there are any other medicines or products that you do not use because of the religious belief underlying your objection please identify them? None of your business Please provide any additional information that you think may be helpful in reviewing your request Yeah, I don't want to kiss my ass. How about that? Is this helpful? And then you have to...I declare it to the best of my knowledge and ability the foregoing is true and correct." Then they have a privacy statement

2:14:38 We are authorized to collect the information requested on this form pursuant to Executive Order 13991, Protecting the Federal Workforce and Requiring Mask-Wearing January 20, 2021. Executive Order 12196, Occupational Safety and Health Program for Federal Employees February 26th 1980 U.S. Chapters Code 5 U.S. Code Chapters 11 and 79." That's a stretch! Yeah, it's a stretch. They think they're authorized? Huh? Hmm... Doesn't the Constitution supersede federal law isn't that kind of how it's supposed to work? Well that makes the federal law unconstitutional Right Somebody has to sue them to make that stick Then we have Brian This is gonna be this is gonna be a lawyer's job I mean lawyers have been had a lot to do recently this will give them something to do And Banshee Beck requested Rev Al and Jobs Karma

CHAPTER 33 / 49 Discussion

Pilot Training and Aviation Safety Anecdotes

A producer's note about pursuing a rotorcraft license prompts a discussion on aviation training. The host shares advice on the "first solo" experience, describing how instructors typically step out of the aircraft unexpectedly to build student confidence. The conversation emphasizes the focus on emergency procedures like auto-rotations in helicopter training.

aviation· pilot solo· rotorcraft· flight instructor· safety

2:15:40 R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Yeah! You've got karma. It says, in the morning my name is Brian Dukas. I'm requesting a correction regarding Sunday show 1389 My brother Seth Dukas attempted to help my wife Whitney make a donation on behalf of his birthday present Apparently he did not make this clear in his note resulting in Adam referring me as Seth's smoking hot husband Hey honestly I saw it and thought okay you know we have lots of gay couples that send donations and are smoking hot husbands I didn't think anything of it! I remember that specifically though. I was like hmm there ya go

2:16:23 Anyway, followed by suggestive jingles about getting corn-cornholed and giving the whole load. Hey! That was not on me that was the request Seth... Seth was named executive producer and is now concerned that people will be misinformed that he has an incestuous gay marriage with me May the record reflect Seth is straight and single or as we call Cishet That's what..that's my I edit..I'm editorializing that is the correct term Cishet Brian is executive producer for show 1389. Sorry for his mistake and thank you for your courage." Okay, so we will... And I will change that posthumously for you in those show notes We have Sir Kenneth Pencil Tuckey

2:17:07 On 1398, I mistakenly awarded an executive producer credit for donating over $300. I believe you said it was from North Carolina? I actually donated twenty dollars and thirty cents and live in Pennsylvania! I am sure the back office will be able to resolve this mix-up and credit the appropriate donor respectfully Ken Gross Sir Ken of Pensyl Tucky Baron of South Felton This is a mystery sir ken We don't know what happened. I saw that too! If anyone needs to claim that, let us know and then Brandon from 1389 quick note for my 333 donation from last week if this makes it to the show please don't include my last name...I didn't see a method to submit a note when i sent in the donations so emailed the question but I didn't get a response sometimes they don't arrive notes at NoAgendaNation or NoAgendaShow.com or .net

2:17:58 Always works, we hope. Hence I figured i would just send it here this week and hope for the best! My apologies for the confusion no problem. I was hit in the mouth about four years ago by my business partner and thus... And have thus far yet to donate quick side note neither has he so please give him Matt G a DB call out. I've hit my wife in the mouth as well, as she routinely reminds me that i'm a douchebag. Today that changes after the number 333 randomly came up four different times an eight-hour period... ...I decided I would be tempting fate if I didn't donate immediately! No jingles just a de-douching and a quick karma as I'm ready for my first solo in pursuit of my rotorcraft license! You've been dedouched! Let's go Brandon

2:18:42 Hey, that's an exciting one. As much as I enjoy flying it was uh...I wasn't prepared for the focus being equally as much on crashing is flying i'm sure you're familiar we practice multiple auto rotations and failures each flight quite a rush love the show and I spread the cure to anyone that isn't hypnotized beyond thank you for all you do and the NOAA JETA nation will be the ones that saved the world let's go Brandon! Yeah well I will just say um Your first solo should not have be you worrying about dying. Your first solo, and I'll tell you how it usually works for anyone who's taking flying lessons fixed wing or rotary if you have a good instructor they will at a certain point when your maybe 15 well depends on how many hours your into but eventually their going to get ready for ya

2:19:31 and you'll be ready for your solo, and you'll be doing some touch-and-goes. And all of a sudden the instructor will say hold short here, and he'll step out. Everyone will know it because they know that you're going to do your first solo without you knowing it they've cleared the airspace maybe one or two there will be incoming... You just fly your circuit man! The way you did it in the past 10 times before the instructor got out. Then you gotta do it for real for the test That's minor And that's it. Our executive producers and associate executive producers, and the make goods that didn't make it into last show thank you all so much for producing episode 1390 of The Best Podcast in the Universe without you we can't do it It is value for value whatever value you get and you can hear that people are definitely find value and sending it back not just in terms of time and talent but also treasure and if you want to join in the fun and be an executive producer

CHAPTER 34 / 49 Discussion

Global Supply Chain Crisis and Media "Shop Early" Narrative

Mainstream media outlets are reporting widespread bottlenecks in the supply chain, affecting everything from diapers to pumpkins. The hosts analyze a "supercut" of news reports urging consumers to start Christmas shopping immediately. They suggest this narrative is designed to drive consumer spending rather than address underlying logistical failures.

supply chain· inflation· christmas shopping· logistics· m5m

2:20:22 be one at least once in your life, go to this website. I would like to talk a little bit about supply chains since now M5M has caught up to what we've been talking about for couple months. We've had lots of producers write in, tell us exactly what the problems are at the port...the ports Now we have completely, I think avoidable gas spike and gas prices which you know Green New Deal is coming everybody! This is what it's gonna be It's going to be fab

2:21:21 But let's get a little trip around the world of what is happening with these supply shortages as people go nuts trying to order stuff and... And we can't get stuff shipped and it's really there's a lot broken But here's what we really have to be worried an ABC knows exactly what we care about. And finally pumpkin prices going through the roof Bad weather and shipping delays are to blame but farmers say don't go out of your gourd You may just have to settle for less perfect pumpkin Stop stop the clip if that was the clip Oh did the woman at the beginning say pumpkin? Ooh, ooh-ooh. Let me listen. And finally pumpkin prices going through the... Mmm hard to tell I think it was punkkin. Pumpkin? She didn't say pumpkIN. And finally pumpkin prices going through... Yeah pumpkins she might have said pumpkin. You're right. She said pumpkin. Pumpkin!

2:22:13 Normally this would be an end of show mix, but Tom Starkweather put together what turns out to be a dynamite supercut of the M5M this past week talking about the supply chains and I think it 100% qualifies as a super cut. Enjoy! Supply chain disruption. The shortage of products here in the US has extended to well just about everything this morning a crisis brewing in the American supply chain not only the rising prices at the pump but also with the grocery store and your favorite restaurant lots of issues mount up huge bottlenecks and supply chains 75% of eateries have had to change menu items due to supply chain issues. The diaper shortage is getting to be a big

2:22:56 big deal. It doesn't solve the problem by telling people buy early for Christmas it is certainly exacerbating all the troubles if you're thinking about holiday shopping do it now these supply shortages are sort of like a game of whack-a-mole every time one gets resolved four other ones seem to pop up but getting these things open 24 7 that is only gonna push these prices even higher inflation goes up because nothing says return to normal like a shortage of toilet paper about to see. of the economy. In the past, companies have passed on these costs to consumers I'm not sure if that's the argument being made in this report We feel that that is unfair and absurd and the American people would no stand for that Retailers are charging more for just about everything There may be isolated shortages of goods and services in the coming months Good luck with your shopping list this weekend! This is- That last bit Is cynically what they're talking about

2:24:12 And I'm surprised there was nothing about it on the 3x3. What i've seen continuously, oh start your shopping now! Do your shopping now Christmas shopping now little Tommy's not gonna have any presents unless you get it now its not going to get delivered how? I mean, please tell me i'm not the only one seeing that they're just pushing shopping. This has nothing to do with supply in fact it'll probably only make it worse. We don't believe we are pushing shopping on network tv! I mean that's what we do... we push shopping and I think I have um in the back of my mind- I'm sorry? As I said there's a couple of factoids I want to throw in so people kind of understand a few things

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Port Congestion in Los Angeles and Long Beach

The ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach are experiencing record backups, with nearly 100 ships waiting to unload. The hosts discuss the "trucking problem," noting that new regulations and driver shortages are preventing cargo from leaving the docks. Reports from "Freight Waves" suggest some companies are resorting to bribing their way into ports to retrieve their own containers.

port of los angeles· long beach· trucking· logistics· freight waves

2:24:55 The trucking problem is really bad and it would be bad in England. We know that for the gasoline problems, but here it's the same thing because they had interviewed on. one of these morning shows a bunch of trucking company executives, they only have half the trucks they normally have. And it has something to do with it? Well, it has to do with drivers and has to do... Drivers! It also has to do with what you point out which is the new regulations about the trucks That's why most drivers don't want to do it You also have to be 21 for commercial driver license for that size I believe maybe not in all states But how abou this we've all seen The Wire

2:25:33 We all know how the docs work. There's a million TV shows and movies about doc workers, you're telling me that these guys can't be controlled with big payoffs and they've got unions? There is always shady shit going on with docs! Am I wrong? Yeah well this is what... No. And this is why unbeknownst to most people there are two little factors. One, Oakland had a backup that ended in July. Yeah, they got rid of it because the two unions decided to make a deal and next thing you know they're working 24-7 or whatever and they got everything clear and that's why around here Mimi is always saying how come we don't have any shortages of anything in the San Francisco Bay Area that I can see? Right! And Oakland has been clear Long Beach and Los Angeles are the two big boys down south

2:26:25 which I did not know, account for 40% of all overseas shipping from China in the entire country. Yeah. Which is like what? That seems like a lot! It is a lot and now they have now they're up to 100 ships I think that are off. They're all backed up, and they're gonna down there Gonna go to 24-7 again it but what they're gonna do is unload All the ship's yeah But they still can't get it out of the port there's just their ship the cargo containers are stacked up Got a note from one of our producers No wait was this well here's the heres the story freight management. Oh, no This was this was a article freight management companies

2:27:07 So the backlogs are so severe that warehouses are storing rows and rows of containers, of course in parking lots. It can take up to 10 days to retrieve a shipment. So delivery trucks this is what you've seen on television often sit in line for hours waiting for a load and some local carriers are refusing to get freight at certain times. that some companies will take their own truck from their own facility with a forklift in the back, six or seven guys. They'll bribe their way into the freight just paying off whoever is in charge and they'll break open their own containers and use forklifts to load out the trailers or get whatever's in there

2:27:48 so that we can at least have something moving. That's from Freight Waves, so that would be a true story I think Freight Waves is it is a good publication So you know if the slowdowns or not help or not being able to do it isn't also caused by political situations or dock workers or money or whatever It certainly could be manipulated in your favor It's just as corrupt as always and it's not moving. And how about this? What if the bankers, just like 2019 without a doubt it was handy to have everyone locked down and shut all the money what if they really need money to flow that has...it has to flow away from banks! It has to flow somewhere else They're sending it overnight they're sending trillions back to the Federal Reserve maybe there's also too much money in the system and they want to push everyone to spend real quick is that possible?

CHAPTER 36 / 49 Discussion

Janet Yellen on Transitory Inflation and Consumer Panic

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen maintains that current price increases are "transitory" but admits they will persist for several months. She attributes the crisis to a shift in demand from services to goods. The hosts criticize her contradictory message that there are "isolated shortages" but "no reason for consumers to panic" about the absence of goods.

janet yellen· treasury department· inflation· consumer demand· federal reserve

2:28:39 That's the second good conspiracy idea you have. I never thought of that, but here is one thing they were talking about the prices and all the rest going up and the stock market reflects this too. They injected so much money into the economy free money that people are spending it like crazy and it created this huge demand there's a demand problem right now So it may be, well if you're gonna... That's an old economics theory. Demand and supply. If the demand is that high the prices have to go up. Well but that's just temporary! Here is straight from the horse's mouth Janet Yellen on CBS talking about it Are higher prices here to stay? I believe its transitory but I don't mean to suggest these pressures will disappear in the next month or two This is an unprecedented shock

2:29:33 to the global economy. It's led to a huge shift in demand away from services and toward goods, and it has created huge bottlenecks in supply chains. We have close to 100 ships that are docked outside the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach waiting to unload goods Our supply chains are very stressed. We get the pandemic under control, the global economy comes back these pressures will mitigate and I believe we'll go back to normal levels How long is that gonna take? Did you hear what she said? Well we gotta do this and the global economy has to come back It's not going to change at all until according to many mid-2022

2:30:24 Right, well that's your theory without a doubt. Overlaying it on the 1918 pandemic which I like which is you know...I'm sure a lot of the stuff we're seeing and what we know mandatory vaccinations masks all these were problem 100 years ago we already did this Janet Yellen by the way went to school with the former New York banker i think she was in the same class I think this may have been mentioned before. Yeah, yeah but she looks a lot older to be honest about it here's the second part with her message to consumers. She looks a lot older than he does that for sure. Well he's just...I guess 100 million dollars in the bank can make you look young. Adrenochrome! That and crispy adrenochrome right on We're being advised now to shop now for the holidays because of these supply chain issues what's your message to consumers?

2:31:21 Well, look we have an economy that's recovering so there may be isolated shortages of goods and services in the coming months but there is an ample supply you've good and I think there's no reason for consumers to panic about the absence of goods that they're gonna wanna Christmas So how can she say that? She says there'll be no absence of goods. Really?! Yes, that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard her say. After she just went through... Yeah, there's a shortage but there is no shortage! You don't have to be smart by the way to be fed chairperson

CHAPTER 37 / 49 Discussion

China Power Crisis and Australian Coal Quality

China is facing a severe power shortage due to a lack of high-quality coal. The hosts explain that many Chinese power plants were specifically engineered to burn high-BTU, low-sulfur Australian coal. China's political decision to ban Australian imports has left these plants unable to function efficiently using domestic or Russian alternatives.

china· australia· coal· power outage· anthracite

2:32:04 Here's something I learned about China. She is treasury now, she is out of the Fed. Well she was fed and now she is treasury but you don't have to be smart for either those jobs. You just have to know how to trade along with the Feds so you become a billionaire that's all you need to do. So part of the supply chain problems are also manufacturing in China because they're out of coal. This used to be a joke back when I grew up We talk about Belgium, you know Belgium of course we make jokes about Belgians all the time and the joke went like this. Do you know why the Belgian Air Force didn't fly during World War II when the Nazis attacked? Yeah because they ran out of coal! Exactly

2:32:43 Exactly. And now it's like, you know why China sucks? They're running out of coal! We know that they cut off the Australian supply and reinstated it but here is something I didn't know about how important the Australian coal is. Several Chinese financial analytics have also acknowledged that Australian coal was the preferred choice in China's power plants There was a significant gap between Indonesian coal and Russian coal, and high quality Australian coal. And many Chinese coastal power plants had converted their generating units to be suitable for the use with Australian coal When the import of Australian coal is interrupted such equipment being unable to process domestic coal has resulted in a reduction in power generation I didn't know that Australia's coal was some super-coal

2:33:27 that needs special burners. High quality anthracite, if you look at the coal supplies around and we have a lot of it in this country the difference in quality is extreme from the cheapest crappy oily sulfur-laden coal... Well talk about that because no one really knows that there's differences in coal they have no idea and I guess if Australian coal is that much better quote quote does that mean you can use less of it? Yeah, it probably has higher BTU content. Less sulfur needs less scrubbing and it's just...and probably burns cleaner in every way and it probably leaves less ash is probably a farce I mean, I'm just guessing that that would be the extreme example of fantastic coal so yeah if the Chinese are all geared up for that then they cut them off for some stupid political reason because the Australians did a bad piece on 60 minutes down there in AAPT area

CHAPTER 38 / 49 Discussion

European Energy Crisis and The Failure of Energiewende

Germany's "Energiewende" policy is struggling as renewable sources fail to meet demand. Low water levels in Scandinavia have reduced hydropower exports, while Germany continues to shut down its remaining nuclear plants. This has left Europe increasingly dependent on Russian natural gas, leading to record-high energy prices across the continent.

germany· france· nuclear power· hydropower· natural gas

2:34:20 What a bunch of idiots. That's stupid, it is unbelievable whoever did that should be shot in China they would shoot the guy Now let us just discuss these I don't know if you talked about on DH unplugged but the gas prices...I mean this is I think this was completely avoidable It wasn't very obvious what we're doing If you shut down all of Europe is shutting down natural gas and they didn't have enough They didn't store enough during the last season or whatever The Germans have, turning off everything. The last nuclear plant is about to close France is now considering closing another 35% of their nuclear plants

2:35:02 What would France do there? France is all nukes and they run beautifully. Well, because it's not green! It's not part of the Green New Deal here. France is debating... Wait a minute let me ask you a hypothetical question Is it not green because it contributes NO carbon dioxide whatsoever to the atmosphere?! Yeah I mean you're asking me the obvious question which is yeah You cannot have nuclear because it kills people. That's not green, okay? I mean, I'll just answer it for you We're not gonna have nuclear because it's dangerous and scary said therefore not green that's red It's scary That's what it is in 2011 the Merkel government took an energy model developed by Martin Faust each and the State Advisory Council

2:35:48 and claimed that Germany could attain 100% renewable electricity by 2050. They argued that using nuclear would no longer be necessary, nor the construction of cold-fire plants with carbon capture and storage. With that, the Energiewende which we've talked about for years was born in the study that they based this on argued that it would work because Germany could contract to buy surplus carbon dioxide free hydroelectric power from Norway and Sweden. But uh oh, hot summer! The hydropower reserves of Sweden and Norway are now dangerously low just like our... that you reported on Lake Powell So that's coming into winter they only have 52% of capacity so that means the Germany Denmark in UK are now in trouble because they can't buy all the excess from the hydropower from Scandinavia to make it worse Sweden

2:36:45 They're still considering shutting down their own nuclear plants, which is 40% of their electricity. And France as I said is debating cutting as much as one third and why? Because you make more money if you throw up some solar panels and it's subsidized and every solar panel array every windmill is its own legal entity It's an LLC or sometimes a BV Which would be Dutch which also can you know great for taxes And you'll see the owners of that are politicians, people who just putting it in making the money. The scam has not changed and now everyone has to rely on Russia for their gas! I mean how ironic? And the Russians have gotta be cracking up You know in the US we're not gonna start any fracking We're not going to do anything It's like we're afraid From what I understand starting up fracking each time is very costly

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ESG Regulations and Retirement Fund Climate Mandates

The U.S. Labor Department proposed a new rule allowing workplace retirement plans to prioritize Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) factors. This reverses a Trump-era policy that required fiduciaries to focus solely on financial returns. The hosts argue this will divert trillions of dollars into inefficient green energy companies.

esg· labor department· retirement funds· climate change· investment

2:37:48 Yeah, you have to do it continually. So if you start up and shut down it's bad? Yeah well that's yeah now we're not doing any... We haven't done a new nuke plant for I don't know 50 years plus so we're not doing that. I don't know what we're gonna do. All I knew is go to the gas station in California gasoline five bucks a gallon and we produce oil in California. Well there's a lot of that as taxes I'm just presuming What's most of his taxes? So, you know another reason. And of course it doesn't do any I know where the tax money goes supposed to be for the roads there's potholes everywhere! I think another reason... Almost lost an axle the other day Another reason all this is happening is these environmental social governance regulations which make fracking companies oil specific companies uninvestable for pension funds and The US Labor Department proposed a rule Wednesday check this out

2:38:53 that would allow workplace retirement investments to focus on environmentally friendly funds and cashing on the companies combating climate change. This in fact reverses former President Donald Trump's regulations on the use of environmental, social and corporate governance factors in retirement portfolios and fiduciaries Trump's rules limited investments related to decisions to pecuniary factors sowing doubt among industry practitioners about whether climate change and environmental factors would qualify. So now they've just made it, I guess if this rule passes and it becomes the rule that all the retirement accounts can also adhere to full-on ESG and just anyone who doesn't have isn't participating in that

2:39:48 It just won't count. And that's really pushing the climate stuff, because that's where all the money is going into stupid ass companies that do solar and wind! Well hopefully the whole thing will blow over. It only took about 24 months, but here we are as predicted. The big tobacco companies in the United States pushed out all the vapes, all vaping, all liquids it's all illegal get rid of it no flavored, no good you're all gonna die! It's still nicotine what's wrong with you children? And then...all of a sudden This is a first-the FDA has authorized e-cigarettes in the United States. It's a move that caught a lot of people by surprise The FDA saying they believe certain

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FDA Authorization of Vuse E-Cigarettes and Tobacco Research

The FDA has authorized the marketing of R.J. Reynolds' "Vuse" e-cigarettes, marking the first time a vaping product has received such approval. The agency cited data showing the products help adults quit traditional smoking. The hosts discuss the "Master Settlement Agreement" and speculate that nicotine may have protective effects against COVID-19 that are being suppressed.

fda· vuse· r.j. reynolds· vaping· nicotine

2:40:48 R.J Reynolds vaping products may help adult smokers who want to quit, but today's action is raising a lot of questions and concerns our circle of health reporter Denise Sidor has more on the impact of this decision in a first-of-its kind authorization the FDA greenlights the marketing of certain e-cigarettes because The agency says it may help some Americans quit smoking It's a move that's puzzled some lung experts Don't forget make the thing as just as harmful to the heart whether it's by vaping or Dr Eli Handel with Dignit says replacing one form o with another doesn't make nicotine. So the same pl smoking cigarettes, you w

2:41:33 The Food and Drug Administration said data submitted by R.J. Reynolds showed its views e-cigarettes help smokers either quit or significantly reduce their use of cigarettes in a statement an FDA spokesman said today's authorizations are an important step toward ensuring all new tobacco products undergo the FDA is robust scientific pre-market evaluation. To be clear, the FDA is permitting the sales of specific tobacco flavored e-cigarettes for adults only not the flavored products that have been criticized for being targeted to children. Experts point out smoking cigarettes as a leading preventable cause of death today's authorization allows these vaping products to be legally sold in the U.S

2:42:15 All right, so this is almost exactly as we thought it would go. This is the big tobacco companies RJR Philip Morris of course has the IQOS which has not yet been improved in fact he got denied pre-marketing approval from the FDA which is kind of a similar process to vaccines funny enough And I think that the, so this is Vuse. It's just like a jewel or any of these things that got killed off. I think what happened here was which I didn't even expect. I thought that the reason why IQOS was going to be the vape that they brought in to take over everything... ...was because it was non-combustible tobacco. Was still a tobacco product

2:43:07 And because it's still a tobacco product, the master states agreement all the money that flows to all the states from the tobacco companies. That would still stay in place in fact they may even grow what I heard in this report and what I'm seeing now as I research this is that big changes they're now calling nicotine a tobacco product and so you think it might keep the master agreement in play of course Yeah, it's coming from the same people. They don't have to change anything So what if they do include the lozenges? or the patch You know they may be able to

2:43:50 Again, I have no paperwork on this. But the nicotine vape juice is by my... You can call that a tobacco product but it's significantly different from inhaling burnt tobacco and carbon and formaldehyde and paper and all that stuff So I think that's what they did. And if this was a fight between a couple of companies, wow RJR did a great job and then what's coming next guaranteed menthol because that's the big killer getting menthol because that's what brings in the hip-hop audience They love menthol so there you go killed a whole industry which was great

2:44:39 People had a lot of fun. It was the same mission You know vaping helps you quit smoking or smoke less Burning tobacco in your face and now they're turning around say oh my god look what they did so amazing our JR did it? Interesting fight that'd be good story to figure out but background on yeah, well again FDA has to tell us why vape you still vape Oh Yeah But what do you use for a device? Are you going to be gone, are they gonna have to... You have to go buy one of these because you can't get your product or...? I had to underground baby. Gotta go underground! Yeah. We gotta get it from sketchy drugstores and head shops Really?! Yeah! Yes really! Yes!

2:45:30 But you know people who manufacture this stuff, I think. Don't you? You can make it yourself! You can order the materials... This is what Dexter was doing. Dexter made a whole- bought himself a house based on his crazy vape juices Yeah he was smart kid So yeah now i still have vapes and you can still order an actual vape although that's getting more difficult because of the lithium ion batteries etc but the juice yeah Yeah, so we'll see. And I can't wait to try out their product and see if it's any good! Maybe it's a great product... who knows? I certainly believe that it helped me not catch COVID. Well thats the other thing when you started this report is it possible that the crackdown has to do with keeping people away from tobacco because tobacco

2:46:19 prevents COVID in some studies show, or is one of these limiting factors. And to knock that back because we still have to kill more people. Oh well that's totally on deck! Yeah and I believe that to be true Dave my buddy Dave... My buddy Dave he has this small office think 50 people maybe And there's one guy who is just a horrible chain smoker and everyone has gotten COVID, everyone has dropped around this guy. He's just sitting there all nice and smelly because he's overweight you know eats junk food so it's like what is he doing that we're not?

2:46:57 You know, the office gossip is it's the smoking. And wasn't there some report early on we were looking at that? The AC2 receptors from the Asian men who are smoking... Right! Yeah you actually picked one up very early because you were looking for it and that was earlier in the game like a year ago and then has become more- keeps cropping up in the news and we've played all these clips of tobacco as a preventative much like aspirin and everything else they're going after Yeah, so okay. Well now I can go to some Trump stuff or we can do those C-SPAN call ins? Well, I'd actually like to do a quick submarine update because there's been too much submarine stuff in the news for me to be comfortable anymore

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Norway Bow and Arrow Attack and Radicalization Reports

A 37-year-old Danish man killed five people in Kongsberg, Norway, using a bow and arrow. While initial reports were vague, it was later revealed the suspect was a convert to Islam who had been flagged for radicalization. The hosts criticize the failure of intelligence services to act on known threats.

norway· kongsberg· bow and arrow· radicalization· terrorism

2:51:54 So they've got like bumper cars going on in the South China Sea with ships. Yeah, well you'd think somebody would be covering this It doesn't behoove them I think it doesn't behove them Alright They do cover this story though This is the Norway story Oh, oh my! Yeah this was crazy. Do you have a clip? Well we have a short clip from NPR but it kind of covers it Norway bow and arrow Police in Norway say a man armed with a bow and arrow killed five people and wounded others in the town about 50 miles west of Oslo Authorities say the suspect has been arrested and is believed to have acted alone Officials say they haven't ruled out the possibility of a terror attack

2:52:45 Yeah, so... Well they tell us nothing. We don't know anything except some guy went nuts with a bow and arrow I have a little more on that. I think i got that he was They think he was a radical Muslim That's what I hear it is Where is it? I thought I had that Yes Here we go Danish... A danish convert to Islam who suspected of having been radicalized He was suspected charged with killing five people injuring two others 37 year old The bow and arrow Coonsburg near the capital the suspect who lived in Coensberg and has a criminal record including death threats burglary And drug possession was reported to police for possible radicalization last year. Hello There you go there cops are as good as ours Yeah, what's the point of returning people in it? So the result yet their Intel doesn't work does not work

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January 6th Commission and "Fragile Democracy" Narrative

Mainstream media outlets and former officials like Fiona Hill and John Brennan are intensifying the narrative that the January 6th Capitol riot was a "dress rehearsal" for a revolution. NBC's Chuck Todd described the event as a threat to the "shredding of our Constitution." The hosts argue this is a coordinated effort to demonize political opposition.

mark milley· fiona hill· chuck todd· john brennan· january 6

2:53:43 Alright. Now I have some interesting... well, I still have the C-Span call ins. Well then let me just end up this block for me with a bit of The Purge since we still have People locked up, there's a lot of saber rattling about January 6th. In fact Margaret Brennan had Fiona Hill on about this was pretty disgusting. You know in the book Peril Robert Costa and Bob Woodward wrote the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley at the end is quoted as comparing the January 6th siege of the capital to the great dress rehearsal. You're a Russia analyst, you know immediately what that phrase is which is what Lenin called an uprising that preceded the revolution I read that and said dear God! Dear god! The general is saying this is a precursor potentially to further violence?

2:54:38 Is this overstating things in a historical sense? He's not overstating it at all because I mean we all saw in real time what happened on January 6th at the Capitol building and General Milley was absolutely right. Any student of history but any observer have even American politics over the last decade, when have you seen something like this before? We haven't! This woman is some British-American foreign affairs specialist who works at Brookings Institution these people Okay, but now that you brought that up I have to play these Meet the press clips. Okay along the same lines And it's all pounding this home they had Fiona Hill on they had Why why is she on? Why is she what is her big deal? She was Trump and she worked with an administration for ten minutes The kind of

2:55:35 the kind of, the premise or what we're going to be hearing here with these clips and they're just random clips from this last show on last Sunday. This is MTP intro is the intro side of it Good Sunday morning from our NBC News Bureau in Los Angeles. Every day it seems we're learning how fragile our democracy is just this past week the Senate Judiciary Committee released a report about just how close we came to losing that democracy in the weeks after the election. The report provides new details on a January 3rd White House meeting where top Justice Department officials had to threaten to resign en masse, to stop President Trump

2:56:13 from taking further steps to overturn the election. We also learned that last week Mr Trump told his former aides to not comply with subpoenas from Congress regarding the January 6 riot at The Capitol and a Facebook whistleblower told Congress this week how the company returned to relaxed security measures right after the election but before January six even as mr trump was lying about vote fraud all because they wanted to keep up engagement and profits. And it keeps my theory in play, doesn't it? A little bit. Now let's say this that what he just said there about Facebook on that same show I didn't have a clip because it was a little too long to clip but Nick Clegg if you remember yeah he's the spokeshole for Facebag his former UK member of Parliament Yeah He came on and said this is bull crap and he called

2:57:10 Chuck there a liar. Oh, you didn't flip it No It was long it wasn't he was a typical British way of so understated took forever Okay, I didn't clip but I'm just telling you in a nutshell So we go from there and but so this is a whole the whole half-hour show and it was according to Chuck This was put together by Chuck because it was so important, because we're going to almost lost our democracy. Oh! By these unarmed people roaming around and staying within the lines as they walk through. So let's go to MPT… MTP intro two. So ask yourself this is it alarmist to suggest that our democracy is at risk? Or are really staring at the abyss for

2:57:56 Whatever side of the political divide you're on, on that issue getting to the bottom of Mr. Trump's actions on and around January 6th will give us all more clarity on how close we actually came to the shredding of our Constitution and how close we could come again. where they're talking about our democracy, I have to interject this clip from the same network MSNBC with our favorite buddy who's back again former CIA director John Brennan. Well they know that the demographic and political trends are against them and so they continue to try to exploit the fears of a lot of individuals in this country

2:58:32 by overstating the concerns that a lot of people have about what's happening in this country, in terms of migration and other types of economic issues and other things. But I must say that we're no longer the world's role model for democracy, given the authoritarian tendencies of the Republican Party it is quite clear that Republicans are trying to resort to any tactic possible And I am concerned that what we saw on January 6th, could that be replicated in the future? Are there individuals who are going to try to stoke those fears to such an extent that some people are going to try to take action into their own hands. In interviews over the weekend, I heard individuals say that they see a civil war coming because of this palpable fear that they have that they're going to again resort to any tactic whatsoever in order to hold on to what i think is there their failing ability to hold on to power

CHAPTER 44 / 49 Discussion

Yamiche Alcindor and Media Projection of Political Fear

Reporter Yamiche Alcindor appeared on "Meet the Press" to discuss the "energy" on the GOP side following a Trump rally in Iowa. She claimed Democrats are worried about the Republican Party's "alternate reality." The hosts mock her lack of objectivity and her admission that she only watched the rally to prepare for her television appearance.

yamiche alcindor· meet the press· trump rally· gop· journalism

2:59:25 So the word is out, that's the message and they're closing in. They're really trying to make it happen here trying to make it all stick. By the way this...they have more than one person come on oh there's gonna be a civil war, there's gonna be civil wa- Yeah thats another favorite. This is all part of the scheme so let's go to this clip now later in the show we get through this this is MTP zero clip this is the first of the series of short clips Now a parade of former Trump officials are recounting Trump's obsession with overturning the election in an attempted coup He was heightened and he was so you know about this was stolen from us. This was stolen from us We all watched it happening because it

3:00:06 It didn't seem to be behind the scenes, clandestine in any way. It became normalized." But many Republicans are still defending him. The president did the right thing if he had made another decision you would have had a problem and around the country Trump allies are pushing laws that would allow Republican legislatures to more easily overturned the vote if it does not Go their way. I'm alarmed, and I think most people are alarmed that we're still talking and they're still facing these issues of election disinformation. This is about going after the integrity of not only the election system in Idaho but people going after the integrity of the election system as a whole. This is without a doubt the biggest threat to our democracy in my lifetime

3:00:49 And joining me now is Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island. He is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee which wrote this report on former President Trump's efforts to overturn the election using the Justice Department as cover to do it. Senator White House, welcome back to Meet The Press Thanks, good to be home with you. Wow! They are so afraid of what's happening they are taking this to extremes we've got...we're writing books giving them two guys here use your book where everything is oh my god they're so worried about this they're beside themselves and they're making up this horrible story I know, you kind of stepped on the... Oh i'm so sorry. The only reason I kept Sheldon Whitehouse in there is because of his stupid comment at the very beginning. At the beginning or end? At the very end of the whole thing he just introduced him and then says well I am glad to be your hero. He said something really dumb. Of the Senate Judiciary Committee which wrote this report on former President Trump's efforts to overturn the election using the Justice Department as cover to do it Senator Whitehouse welcome back to Meet The Press

3:01:53 Thanks. Good to have, good to be on with you. Yamiche and a couple of other Democrats. They never have a Republican that could actually explain things. Why ruin the party? Why ruin the fun? Heaven forbid! So let's... There are just two random clips from this little group of people bitching. Is because there is no moral center and no moral clarity from senators like Chuck Grassley

3:02:40 Well Yamiche, the other thing is there seems to be no power in numbers. Everybody's afraid of if they all join hands they could rid the party of Trump but they're not doing it They're not and really at the heart of this is fear. And at the heart of this is the idea that threat continues, watching Trump rally yesterday and I would only do it because I was coming out to meet with you Jack. I just want to say please everyone also try listen to this as complete projection that she's talking about herself they're not and really at the heart of this is fear, and at the heart of this is the idea that threat continues. Watching the Trump rally yesterday- I would only do it because I was coming out to meet with you Jack- I watched from beginning to end and what I saw yesterday was a president who's continuing to not only lie but

3:03:30 also up the ante. He was telling people last night, we're not going to have a country in three years. We need to take this country back and what you see is the Republican Party that simply cannot divorce himself from the alternate reality that the former president is living in and you see people riled up excited about that and I'm talking to Democrats they're just so worried that the energy is on the GOP side So here's a professional reporter who both works for NPR, PBS CBS MSNBC God knows she's everywhere. She celebrated and she says I wouldn't have watched it but I knew I was coming on top of you Chuck That's what that's how journalists cover presidential stuff now is I don't want to watch it But oh just because I was coming on with you yeah Yeah, he's pathetic there's nothing more fit in that comment. He made yep

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Stephanie Grisham Book and The "Trump Rotation" Checklist

Former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham released a book detailing Donald Trump's "unstable" behavior. The hosts refer to their "Trump Rotation" website, which lists 59 recurring media tropes used to attack Trump, ranging from "Russian agent" to "cheeseburgers." They argue these stories are no longer news but a repetitive psychological operation.

stephanie grisham· donald trump· m5m· political tropes· trump rotation

3:04:18 This is lack of objectivities out of control Well, there's also no one watching so it doesn't hurt that much. Well, that's true what but we're We're watching I know we're actually making it worse by playing these clips Exactly Let us go hey You know, we're having a hard time getting the message out to the kids But these guys they play all our stuff this is great David French Stephanie Grisham Is she Jose can say co? Meaning you may not believe her on a lot of stuff, but you believe her on this? I mean if you're writing a book saying that Trump is unstable and lies a lot. That is not exactly news! This was something that was seen all over the United States for year after year after year The problem is his loyal fans always turn to his appointees

3:05:09 Trump, who was supposed to hire the best people is always being betrayed. He still never has made a mistake and so what we're dealing with here is it's not news It is not news at this point if you don't know that already where have you been? That's all we have for today thank you all for watching Thank You panel for being with us We'll be back next week in Washington because of its Sunday Let's meet the press. Well, the woman that came on the show this Grisham woman she came up with another Trump book and she was like a chief of staff or something it with Melanie and who hates her now. Oh yeah And she came out with the same...Trump lied!

3:06:15 And he was unstable. I mean, it was just a Trump checklist she would just you know they're just bringing why what this guy has not been president for almost a year? What was our domain name again didn't we have a whole Gosh, I can't remember what that was. We had I think its trump rotation dot Oh trump rotation calm Yes, that's it And it's the same list that they're just there. I don't know why they're so, I don't think Trump is going to run in 2024 he is going to be too old. I think it's gonna be DeSantos and of course they are not taking any chances, they are going after DeSanto as hard as they can Abbott is the other bad guy You mean DeSantis not DeSantos?

3:06:54 Yeah, I don't know why it keeps saying that. Oh! I had a hairdresser named DeSantos here it is trump rotation dot-com Yep still there yet number one illegitimate president Let's do the top ten number one illegitimate president two lost the popular vote three incompetent for White House chaos five unhinged updated to unglued six liar seven Hitler eight 8. Demands loyalty 9. Cheeseburgers is all he eats 10. Sex offender 11 Russian agent Keep going, keep reading Never says anything bad about Putin White supremacist Pro-Nazi Narcissists Mentally unfit Insane Dementia Unstable Clown or bozo Foreign leaders hate him Hates women Misogynists Hate Muslims Islamophobic

3:07:34 Islamophobic, hates gays, homophobic, anti-Semite admitted molester and or rapist. 25th amendment should be instituted should be impeached hate immigrants hates Mexicans in particular says all Mexicans are rapists is racist small hand small penis big red button not have nuclear codes, immature childlike you need an adult in the room tweets too much thin-skinned bully holds grudges forever mean bankrupt does not have any money long ties fatter than 239 pounds plays golf too much after criticizing Obama hypocrite by action seldom called one incestuous would date daughter divorcee that golden showers, pee-peevert tax cheat won't release taxes. Impetuous Nixonian divisive corrupt violates the emolument clause said Nazis are fine people in Charlottesville wants to separate families puts children in cages and is a conspiracy theorist obstruction of justice money laundering and 59 Trump runs the mob That's it? Well there was one of them There's only one in that entire list that I believe to be true

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Election Data Deletion and 2020 Fraud Investigations

Maricopa County officials admitted to deleting election data after receiving a subpoena from the Arizona Senate, claiming the data was archived elsewhere. In Michigan, three women were charged with 2020 election fraud. The hosts discuss these developments as evidence that concerns regarding election integrity are grounded in fact rather than "disinformation."

maricopa county· arizona audit· election fraud· michigan· voter id

3:08:38 The cheeseburgers. Okay, that's true! What's the other one? Won't release taxes. Oh yeah well why should you And just on that tip, and we got to take our break. Maricopa County officials admitted to deleting election data after receiving a subpoena from the Arizona Senate this was not clippable it's boring but it was fun to see them have to admit that they actually deleted it and they said well we couldn't give that data to people because it wasn't on the machine yeah but you deleted it and you say you archived it yeah but it wasn't on the machine so they're playing footsies there And Michigan has charged three women with 2020 election fraud.

3:09:23 So there is some stuff to be looked at. There's a lot of fraud that took place, I think it's common in a lot of states. I think California is rife with it and all these would as you heard the Chuck Todd thing going on about Idaho or they're gonna change it they're gonna make it tough for people to vote this all is about voter ID because we have to let all those Haitians vote exactly and the final one this was I've seen this in the reports. I found it interesting that it got reported on ABC Jeffrey Clark, the man Trump wanted as Attorney General believed that wireless thermostats made in China were used to manipulate voting machines and Georgia and Trump asked a top intelligence official to look into it And there's ample evidence that something went on with with that as an access point It was an attack vector they came in through the nest

3:10:17 Could be. And then you're on the network! If things are possible... Once you're on the network, you're on the network and then you can do a lot of fun stuff but we will never know because they also deleted the log files very annoying yeah no we'll never know but you know this has been good Trump is just that you know their promo I mean this has probably happened to other people and They just go, the Diebold machines when Bush won against Kerry or whoever. Do you remember when that thing flipped like crazy? Yeah! It's the flipping that takes place. That's what's nuts. One side gets an advantage they rigged the election for their guy and then the other side... Wait it was Kerry Obama wasn't it?!

3:10:59 No, no it was Kerry Bush. That was Bush's second term he ran against Kerry. Right but who didn't Kerry run against? Who ran against Obama second term? That was Clinton although who ran against Obama nobody really. Okay all right. No, they had to rate their... But that wasn't Kerry that was Gore that you're talking about isn't it No, Bush ran against Kerry in the second... after he got elected against Gore. The Gore thing I think Bush won that and now they're still in denial about Florida and to make a big fuss all the Democrats, oh, Florida was rigged! The hanging Chad la-la-la. And so now that... So they get made a big fuss into this day. In fact Al Gore used to introduce himself as would be president. That's fine but if Trump does it, Oh my God is trying to make a coup

3:11:50 Not start a coup, make a coup! Well the establishment, the M5M they're doing the bidding so there's worry about Trump. And considering the mass hypnosis everyone has kept in, they should be. They should be Yes, and they are. And it's obvious when you watch these shows is that they're cringe-worthy which is meet the press episode was Cringe worthy we appreciate you sharing it with the group That's why people show up that's why they're here to keep their amygdalas in check Imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah

CHAPTER 47 / 49 Discussion

San Diego Meetup Report and Final Knighting Ceremony

The show concludes its donation segment by knighting Sir Camelot the Blackout Knight and Sir Beasley of Iowa City. A "boots on the ground" audio report from a San Diego meetup is played, featuring various listeners expressing their support for the show and their opposition to current government policies.

san diego· meetup· knighthood· value for value· gitmo nation

3:12:43 Eh, the show's too long. But we do have a few people to thank Duke of Luna is right at the top of the list as Grace Sir Kevin McLaughlin lover of America and boobs is our boobs guy comes in with $140 Cameron White 117 05 this is a note you probably have to read it because he's a knight gonna be okay He says Cameron of white from San Diego recently Fred from Nazi SF Okay, topping off my knighthood with this donation little girl Yay The San Diego boots on the ground meetup was this last weekend special Thanks to Dennis O'Connor the San Diego taxman for his non-woke bar home and away To Monica Perez from the propaganda report for plugging the meetup on her show. Oh cool

3:13:27 to Sir Montauk for sending the PVC printed heads on sticks as well as the birthday switcheroo donation, to The Future Dames for the custom name tags and help with the recording. As well as to whomever drove me home because I don't remember! Please add ThornsRelayIPA to the roundtable and dub me Sir Camelot the Blackened Out Knight Blacked out. He says, oh black sorry Sir Camelot the blacked-out knight stay dangerous and he says such karma? Such? Stay dangerous and such. Oh! Then he needs a comma Karma please there you go You've got karma

3:14:07 Okay, we've got the Thorns Relay IPA good to go for you. It's really good Angela Pickering is next on the list with a birthday from Sour Lake Texas I wonder if that lake is sour $110 and 14 cents Allison Pardon in Pensacola Florida 10180 Chris Hart or Chris Greg heart lob in Cincinnati, Ohio 101 dollars Brian Taylor 6913 sir wags night of the Martin state-class Delta airspace Yeah, Havra de Grace Maryland six seven eight nine Sir bebop night of the frozen Tundras five six seven eight Christopher Dector five six seven eight anonymous five five five five Ted

3:14:53 Alliance, Ted Alliance. Was there some reason for the 5678? It's kind of cool. This is one of my favorite donations and they just show up. It's cool! Ted Alliance 5510 in Heaton Florida Nicole Gilbert in Brooklyn New York 5050 Justin Price in Blacksburg Virginia 5033 and now we go to the $50 donors name and location We have a few, Brandon Rogers in Aurora Colorado. Jonathan Ferris in Liberal Kansas. Philip Kim in San Francisco California. Kimberly Redmond in Toronto Ontario she's a dame. Tony Smith and Fort Worth Texas Sir Kevin Dills and Huntersville North Carolina Sir George Wuchet parts unknown Michael Wendell in Matawan New Jersey

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3:16:33 It'll be a big celebration. The 26th is official, the 24th is a show day and we're already very happy that we've made it this far We can't believe it ourselves honestly Thanks also to the producers who came in under $50 often for reasons of anonymity or one of our fabulous subscription offers 11-11 1212's 33's go check it out at Dvorak.org slash NNNKarma for all producers are the best podcasting universe You've got karma We've got Camero Esperanza saying happy birthday to Liz Jackson. It's her birthday today. Zachary Freitas celebrates, Beth Fissers says happy birthday to her smoking hot Dill Patrick he celebrated on the 13th Angela Pickering or husband Chris

3:17:24 Bro, 47 today. Tiana Hewitt her husband Chris will be celebrating on the 16th as will Tyler Richardson and Brandon Rogers says hi to you that's his mom Allison Pardon happy birthday to husband David Pardon turning 59 and Nicole Gilbert happy birthday to our smoking hot fiance Chakra Daddy! And we say Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! One dame, one dame. One dame three knights! Yay! Let's get them up on the podium we got some fun- oh wow I'm sorry I took out two blades...I'll put this one back now where's yours? Here's mine okay good Inga Carlson Alexander Harrington Matthew Heflin and Cameron White all of you up on the podium

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CHAPTER 48 / 49 Discussion

Upcoming No Agenda Meetups and Global Outreach

The hosts list a series of upcoming "No Agenda" meetups in locations including Bastrop, Texas; Cincinnati, Ohio; Denver, Colorado; and Nassau, Bahamas. They highlight the diverse skills of the "producer" community and encourage listeners to attend local gatherings to find "sanity" and network with like-minded individuals.

bastrop· cincinnati· denver· nassau· meetups

3:19:49 Thanks for all you do. Hey, it's Sir Mike love you guys let's go Brandon ITM this is Kara Sippin John stream hunter This is WA 3 W o fuck Joe Biden. This is Rob from Santy the snozzberries tastes like snoz berries Lily pads from Santy Save the tatas! This is Bartman from San Diego and fuck Joe Biden. This is Mike from Santee, and I have something witty to say? This is Kelly Dame of The Crushed Grapes. John, I love your voice. This is Brenda from San Diego. I heard about you from WACP woo-woo!

3:20:30 Stay dangerous! And such. And next time it's let's go Brandon and I won't accept F Joe Biden, this is just lame. Mr 737 here at the No Agenda Three Mile Island meetup John we just had some mutton and meat its an outstanding product This is Mrs Sir 737 Adam turn your speakers down This is Chris no agenda irradiates me with the truth ITM from TMI where will lead the nation in burger fraud I can't wait to find out how many spooks are gonna be in ball strap. It's gonna be fantastic

3:21:20 You have at least five I'm guessing. Well here's what's coming up for the week, or the next few days actually so Friday we have that's the 15th North Carolina State Fair meet at the waterfall hang out at the fair then North Carolina State Fairgrounds that'll be four o'clock then On Saturday the 16th it says quite clearly, sorry full the party at the homestead 5 o'clock in Bastrop. Too many people RSVP'd we can't take on any more sorry all but it's gonna be a great time I'm very excited to go oh also um news coming? Austin City Councilwoman Mackenzie Kelly

3:21:59 Oh, that's cool. Who gave me the challenge coin? She said you know I've got to go on a Friday morning or Sunday morning or something just to get it real early she has to go somewhere like Arizona with some delegation she said but i really want us meet the people and so I really want to meet the people especially the ones around Austin So I think thats uh yeah No this is what she should do That's what she should be doing What a good councilwoman would do Exactly! She's the only good one as far as I'm concerned Probably. Even though she was in our district, I supported her as much as i could. Then also on Saturday Eastern Tennessee at noon eastern time the Smoky Mountain Brewery

3:22:35 And that's in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. Also on Saturday the Shrunken Amygdala Support Group 2 o'clock at Tafs Breporium in Cincinnati Ohio Sir Colin the Friendly Fat Man is your host The Boogie Down at the Lavender Lounge two o'clock Lavender Lounge in Denver and contact Colin for information on that and the Flight of No Agenda Meetup number 21 already at 333 p.m. Steelcraft the city of Long Beach Leo Bravo has been organizing that for a long time Snowqualimie Valley meet up At 4 o'clock, also Saturday Duval Tavern in Duvall Washington and Vancouver Island the bonfire for The Banished will kick off at 5 o'clock at V.A.'s Place Sooke B.C

3:23:17 And the monthly Migla meetup, 4 o'clock... number four I'm sorry. The fourth in the series at 5 o'clock at Downtown Gators that's in Punta Gorda and No Agenda Private Invasion Nassau Bahamas Oh my god! I wish we could go to all of these That's it 8 a.m Captain Avery's Pirate Republic Brewing Seems early to be drinking but okay let us know Then show day, Sunday the 17th in North Idaho Sanity Brigade. Two o'clock at Trails and Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza The Greenwood Indiana ITM Tribal Meeting 330 at Tried & True Ale House in Greenwood Indiana Happy NFNG Day North Florida no agenda four o'clock meetup Safe Harbor Seafood in Jacksonville Florida Don't fly there you'll never get up

3:24:07 And the outreach at Orlando will take place on Sunday at 6 o'clock, at Hourglass Brewing. Andrew Jones is your organizer for that. These are the NOA Agenda meetups if you've never been to one You never know who you might bump into! Could be a councilwoman could be spook could be anybody...could be someone who shoes horses. You'd be amazed of the skills that producers of The NOA Agenda Nation has And very much encourage you to go to noagendameetups.com, find one near you if you can't start one it's easy and they're always just like a party! Alright

CHAPTER 49 / 49 Discussion

Hollywood IATSE Strike and James Bond Box Office

Over 60,000 Hollywood production workers in the IATSE union are threatening to strike over wages and working conditions, which would shut down film and television production nationwide. Additionally, the new James Bond film "No Time to Die" had a disappointing opening weekend. The hosts conclude the show with a musical mix featuring William Shatner and news clips.

iatse· hollywood strike· james bond· no time to die· billie eilish

3:25:03 Uh, you probably have better ISOs than I do but... Not necessarily. I have six ISOs Holy crap! They're all short they're all the Shatner clips Oh okay let's see The ones that came in last Yes okay so i just pull these up one by one oh wow Okay My goodness me He's a little muffled Oh my god He was ecstatic. Oh, I'm telling you Is that them all or is there more? This should be six one one two three four five Six here it is. I can't believe this All right Here's what I have double douche What yeah doesn't really come out. What was double douche doesn't really work This one. I think this one is worth it Do you want to be a free man or do you want to be a slave kind of like that?

3:26:05 Well Shatner stuff is muffled at me, and it's important you could jack it up. Yeah, but it's not punchy It's not punching. No. It's not punch I like the slave one so far you have anything else know that Wait did I have one more? It's been hard getting him now. I just haven't this is probably just as bad as the first one you douche Know to soft will do free man or a slave Okay, I only have one clip left. Okay. Joe's running overtime Yes that this will be the this will be the one that people will remember they'll come back after this we don't listen to the C-Span clips once again

3:26:43 But they're evergreens. They're always good. They are evergreens in fact, so this is an important clip We should know about and this is the it's a clip It's a good 52 second clip from NPR of the eye And I've taken it from two different versions of the story This is the idea the eye at sea oh yes the Hollywood Gonna be out of business Film and television crews say they will go on strike on Monday if their union doesn't reach a deal with studios and producers before then. NPR's Mandely Delbarco reports Hollywood, and some production hubs around the country would effectively be shut down if the strike goes through

3:27:24 The union represents cinematographers, editors makeup artists visual effects crews even people who feed the cast and crews as many as 60 000 workers in all. The international alliance of theatrical stage employees or IATSE has been trying to hammer out a deal with the alliance of motion picture and television producers At issue are living wages, meal breaks weekend rest periods and more compensation for working on productions that are streamed online. IATSE president Matt Loeb set the strike for a minute past midnight Monday if a deal isn't reached. Monday this coming Monday? Yep! Super oh my goodness so not only are they promoting all the streaming stuff now no one will be able to produce it all this is great

3:28:10 It is fantastic. And James Bond, did you see James Bond? Horrible opening! No $56 million dollars! Did you see the movie? No I can't see it yet We got some reviews comic strip blogger came in with a review Oh worst movie ever That's not comic strip blogger Well no that's the... You ready Worst movie ever That's comic strip blogger I'll take his word for it. Also, they didn't get a hit with Billie Eilish That's that's very rare that the theme song from Bond doesn't get plugged hard enough for it to be at least in the top 10 She didn't get every revival of it at all Complete dud yeah well as doing good business

3:29:01 No, I thought it was not doing good business. Well, I understand it's doing boff-oh! I heard it was extremely disappointing. I heard it was just setting the world on fire. Oh, I heard is just a piece of crap. Well, I heard that too. Okay... Then we agree on something. We've got to oh by request we've got Congressional Dish episode 240 coming up next Jen Briney rips apart the infrastructure bill love her for that I'm going to keep it brief for the end of show mixes since we're running over time. We do have two dynamite mixes, one of them will be from Neil Jones, Clip Custodium himself and then we have... Gosh! I can't remember who made this one? Ah somehow people when you send me end-of-show clips put your name on it so that I can easily find that but it is.. It'll be obvious

3:30:03 how fun the actual end of show mix is. And coming to you from the heart of Central Texas Hill Country, FEMA Region No. 6 in the governmental maps in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we have trucks galore going up and down the road! I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday and I'll have a complete review of the Ballstrap Texas meetup it should be a hoot! We'll see ya there until then remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA and adios mofos and such She packed my bags last night pre-flight. This is William Shatner and I would like to invite you to take a journey with me... Zero hour, 9am. William Shatner the oldest person ever flown into space And i'm gonna be high

3:30:57 Hey, right now Loblaws is having a huge frozen food sale. Retro girl! Vito go! IT go! Patrol go! Tao Kong go! GNC go! Econ girl! Surgeon go! Lift off! We have a lift off! Star Trek changed everything to boldly go where no 90-year old has gone before I'm not the man they think i am Oh No! No No! I'm a rocket man Rocket man burning out his fuse out here. Star Wars? You can call me Mr. Shaft. Priceline, the best choice in travel I'll watch a Star Trek now and wonder how it's gonna come out. Let's hope he has the right stuff Scotty beam me up Call on the hurt line And promise tastes like butter Promise And i think its gonna be long time

3:31:57 Breaking news in the COVID pandemic. The CDC has changed its guidance. Not exactly, says the CDC today releasing revised guidance. The CDC also debating its guidance? Their job is to look at evolving information, evolving data and evolving historic pandemic and provide guidance The CDC director says her agency is looking into changing its guidance. The page has since been removed entirely while the agency prepares new guidance. The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A Do you want to be a free man or do you want to be a slave?