55:29 Which I've been using yeah, you're the big promoter. You're the number one guy and you're this celebrity promoter of the film So here's the problem so they got a hold of ya Yeah, he said hey I heard you talk I'd say her John Rogan And now I hear talking about this is fantastic even though we really try to sell this as you know, a starter device for people who don't have a lot of money and just want some basic functionality. We're seeing the value... Thank you! Seeing the value of this as so- A detox phone is what they're calling it and like yeah I think I'm think I've probably sold about 100 of them on through the show. I think lots of people went out and bought one when i started talking about it And here comes the downside of our model It's like well you know we could hire you as an ambassador. I'm like no you can't
56:17 You can't. So why not? Because then I'm not credible with any other product! I don't know... Oh, please! No! No it's not right. It's not right. Oh brother.... Hey, I am open to proposals if you have some hybrid kind of way I don't know. It just feels kind of weird, you know what? To talk about the phone on the show and be getting paid for it that's not a problem You talked about the phone on this show when you talked about that you don't go on and on if you already made your point About the phone. I don't think you're gonna need to talk about the fun the show But if you wanted to be at an ambassador which would be outside the show Yeah Or I could or how about personally come up this I could just say hey, I don't know man We got producers from all over the place
57:09 You know, if you want to send a donation to the show. That's the other way of doing it. I don't think that is his idea No! Of course it isn't his idea! I mean...I'm game for that yeah sure because then I get half your ambassadorship income But which is fine with me but you have to wear this sash I am thinking couple things one for your profile It's not bad idea to be out there as holding a phone in TV ad or doing something promoting the idea. Terry, okay here's the way I would look at it. Ah! Here we go yes we're on finally. It comes to me as i go yeah i know you're genius You are a huge massive advocate of the off-the-grid lifestyle. What better way
58:02 than to get paid to do this to a larger audience that is completely outside the show. These are people mostly that will not listen to No Agenda, and you might actually drag a few customers into the No Agenda family in the process. It would be a win-win. Win-win! No one's gonna give a crap and just nonsense about oh, oh, oh... You know this idea that you're gonna just not be able to promote anything? Excuse me, did I sound like that?! That's what your psyche sounded like It's like I won't be able to promote no one will trust me anymore is nonsense. I didn't say that First of all stop, I did not say no one will trust me That's not what I said but that's what you received You said something along those lines Mm-hmm
58:52 Okay, I'm waiting. Here's an example what I always the way I always approach this sort of thing in the in the United States they if you work for a publication and you want to end it and some coming like Samsung for example wants to take you on a junket literally a Junket to Korea to look at one of their fabs mm-hmm You're supposed to go through channels and you can't let them pay for anything. This is all part of the New York Times ethics listings, things you can do and can't do but in Europe
59:31 And I found this out during a junket in Europe. All, I talked to all the guys that were at PCMag UK and other journalists and all these different magazines. I know a lot of them in Europe, Brits mostly. Oh that's crazy! Why should your company be paying to send you all the way to Korea to look at their factory? They should be sending you themselves because it doesn't make any sense otherwise. You're just wasting money to go look at somebody's factory and then you're supposed to write about it one way or another It doesn't make any sense. And that was the European approach to this same exact dilemma, in United States approaches because The New York Times says it's bad and The New York Times can say that because they have a huge budget and they send people all over the place and little newspapers and magazines can afford too but they feel obliged not to because they can't afford it and they don't let the company send them
1:00:21 Well, I used to always take these things up and make a big stink about it. No you're not paying to send me! Samsung's paying to send me because why should you waste your money sending me to Korea? So Samsung sends me over there and writes this scathing review of some article because I'm irked by the whole thing anyway And I always tell other writers that say look You get sent on a junket to someplace you might as well just say what you think Because they're never going to invite you back because they got you over there the one time, they're never gonna send you twice. So it's not like all of a sudden be on their payroll- Okay! It's never going to happen. Okay okay hold on... I'm with ya. Just..okay so my point is that You can still be honest and take this ambassadorship. Okay. I wish we had had this conversation years ago when i was offered the ambassadorship for Microsoft Zoom
1:01:19 That was supposed to evoke a laugh a little bit sooner than that I can't believe how long it took for the punchline to hit crap jeez I'm what cuz I first heard the word zoom. Can you realize? All right all right, oh um I'll keep the dialogue open now. We will report back we'll see what happens should be interesting Hey free phones for everybody put money in your pocket. I know it's like, I'm so against money All right. I think that's about all I have for the for the important updates but we have a lot more to talk about And I figure we should talk at press conferences or can I do at least a cave? Yeah you can do your on your up baby flood the zone JCD