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00:00 Hey, I had my underpants on and it was an old lady. the surgical masks and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here at the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where there's no coronavirus around here, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Not yet. Lots of Chiners there, man. They're all on the other side of the bay. And they're protected by the poop.

00:46 I can't quite decide what's better to start with, with a shorter boring television show known as the President's Defense in the Impeachment Trial. Still boring, they just made it only three hours, thank you, that was better. Or do we start with the obvious big news, which is the Wuhan virus? Well the boring thing we should that's a violation of our rules. We don't want boring. We want the Wuhan virus There you go we got jingles Nothing like a little of my corona virus, that's beautiful. I have the I have two clips yes

01:38 I have the ABC Corona update, which is a little long, but we can play that and then we can play the Corona on PBS. They kind of downplay it, which is in fact they fall into your way of thinking at the very end. Let's hit ABC first. Tonight, concern growing in the United States. Officials say they expect more people will contract the dangerous new disease. Passengers on flights to Boston wearing face masks. Everybody's wearing a mask because they're afraid of getting infected by other people. In Seattle, Chicago and Los Angeles reports that stores are running out of supplies of masks. Two cases currently confirmed. In Chicago, a woman in her 60s. She had cold-like symptoms, shortness of breath, fever. And many times it would present just like a cold, just like the cold or flu. And outside Seattle, a man in his 30s.

02:33 At least 63 people are now being tested for the respiratory illness in 22 states, including three possible cases in New York. Symptoms include fever, dry cough and shortness of breath. Tonight, hospitals on high alert. Dr. Jennifer Ashton visited New York City's Health and Hospitals Bellevue. So this is a negative pressure room here at the hospital. where a patient with coronavirus would be cared for by specially trained medical personnel. They showed her precautions they would need to take. How prepared are you and your staff to receive a patient who may have coronavirus? We're prepared to take that patient now. Our radar is always set high so we can screen these patients so we can stop it from infecting other people and the public.

03:15 Wow, this is ABC News with a minute and a half of completely information-free news report. There was nothing in there. Nothing different than any of their reports. I mean they could have at least you know done the bat stuff They could have thrown that in they could have done a lot of different things, but now this is just about oh, yeah Well it shows up as the only reason in the m5m that I haven't seen anyone report Seriously report on the the bio lab. That's a Yes, this is well. I do have something but it's

03:56 I don't want to, I guess we could switch to it. Let's just, we can do the PBS thing if you want, but I got, I had two clips here that'll, that kind of bring the whole thing to a head. Okay, let's find it here. Dave Hodges, our buddy from the Common Sense Show, comes on Coronavirus One. What'd the Hong Kong man say, Dr. Guan? He's a virologist. He said China's doing it all wrong. They haven't taken the steps they needed, but he doesn't know that any nation will take the steps they need. And he says, I've covered this forever, forever, and I've never been scared.

04:33 Until now so here's a guy who's made a life work out of studying this and he said this is the first time It's ever frightened him and he's really frightened. He said this could sweep the globe into unbelievable damage He said this particular strain in his professional opinion is ten times more lethal than SARS Oh, that's another reason why I say this is bioengineered Everything speaks to this. Do you think maybe we should take this guy's threat seriously? I It answers a lot of problems for the deep state, doesn't it? This is one hell of a distraction from Ukraine and Burisma. It truly is. I would say the timing is a little suspect, wouldn't you? And I've said this before too. This comes out of the Chinese equivalent of Fort Detrick. How many coincidences do you want to buy? Right now, I think Dr. Guan is right. We need to not panic.

05:31 But we need to take steps to protect ourselves. So please take those steps we've talked about on here. Also, too, pay attention to what the health experts are saying. Do not pay attention to what the news says because they're going to underreport government statements because the government doesn't want you to panic. And so they're going to underestimate the problem. And in fact, they're going to lie to you. But don't worry the info war store has all kinds of stuff that'll let you know this Dave Hodges he sells this stuff to So Dave takes it to the next level though and part two kind of tells you what we need to be thinking about Yeah, got it. It very well may be and we're going to talk about that here on the Common Sense Show. My name is Dave Hodges. I'm the host and you got to be prepared to be hunkered down martial law could be a possibility here with what's coming. So what I want you to do is to prep like you're going to be in martial law. You can't go out of your home. I don't mean travel dust to Don curfew. I mean total shut in. You may go nowhere.

06:31 And that is one of the provisions I reported on earlier that was a recommendation I was allowed to report on that went from acting FEMA director Gaynor to President Trump. The little tidbit in there was the I was allowed to report on it. Somebody's feeding him. Yes. He was allowed, really? Okay. Alright, I have some thoughts about this. What is I want to what is this other report this this Wuhan report? Is that something we want to play? Well, where's that? Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, this is definitely one of the better ones. This is a Wuhan report freak out tonight at the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak. Where's this from? Tell me where is this from? You're not gonna believe who it was from is from ABC. What?

07:26 Oh my goodness, this is what I expect from ABC. Go! Tonight, at the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, the crisis is escalating. Dozens of workers in Wuhan with heavy machinery racing against time to build a brand new thousand bed hospital in just ten days. And now a second 1300 bed facility in the next 15. The space desperately needed, hospitals teeming with patients and staff stretched thin. In China alone, there are now more than 1,400 cases and at least 42 deaths. I gotta fix this guy's report. This is not working out right. Let me see. He's reading it the right way, but he doesn't have all the elements.

08:15 Let's see, let's see if we can help them. There's more than 400 medics who've worked on SARS and Ebola deployed to help with the rapidly growing emergency. Wuhan and 16 other cities in a travel lockdown. That's a total of 50 million people ordered to stay in place. That's the population of the states of New York and Texas combined. The US government evacuating the majority of consulate employees and families from Wuhan and is reportedly working on a charter flight to get all remaining Americans out. The term cabin fever is probably coming into play here.

08:51 Here, it's the Chinese Lunar New Year, the country's biggest holiday. New Year worshippers have gathered here to pray for good luck in the year of the rat. But people have also been warned about gathering in large places like this. And so most people here are wearing these kind of protective masks. The list of cases outside mainland China also growing, with more than 35 cases in 13 countries or territories, including France. We are all going to die. That might not be ABC, but I think I don't care. I don't care. Who cares? It got much better with the music. It was a lot better with the music. And I think you should be producing news for the networks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you would say we played all these clips. We might as well play the PBS one, which has the kicker at the end, which I think was just kind of like a

09:41 deflator that was worth listening to. China's President Xi Jinping warned of a quote accelerating spread of the coronavirus today and called the situation grave. 42 people have died and the virus has infected more than 1,200 others since the outbreak began in the central Chinese city of Wuhan. At least 48 million people in China are now in a lockdown that includes a travel ban covering 15 cities. Festivals and events marking today's Lunar New Year are canceled. Hong Kong ordered schools closed through mid-February. Ten other countries, including the United States, have confirmed cases of the coronavirus, which causes symptoms ranging from cold and flu to pneumonia, which can be fatal.

10:24 So far those cases that have reached other countries are linked back to Wuhan. So in terms of person-to-person transmission outside of China, we have not seen that yet. And there are, and I always like to put this in perspective, there are viruses in this country right now, such as the flu, that pose a much, much bigger threat. Yes, exactly. Well, that's a That's interesting. PBS is the only one that got a little bit of what I think is real information. Everyone else loves to do the, whoa, we're all gonna die. We got pressurized rooms. Whoo! We got one in Texas A&M. We got people over here, people over there. I have tried to collect facts. Now, the show has been through a couple of these incidents. In fact, the last one we had

11:16 was Even got a jingle for itself. Let me see here it is Yeah, we spotted that one a mile away that came out of Mexico for some reason yeah, then you had SAR she had the h1n1 and There is some some interesting facts about this particular virus, which is it's are not value are not as in R0, but for some reason they pronounce it R-not, as in not zero, not, not, not, is over two, which means one person will infect at least two people.

11:56 And that means it has virality. It's going viral, which is good. That'll propagate it all over the world. Apparently the incubation period is two weeks, so we have no idea. Could be everywhere. The people who've died so far are mainly elderly, and because you don't die of the virus, you die of pneumonia resulting from the virus. Very similar to a flu, so in that regard PBS is right. The sanitary and hospital situation, particularly in Wuhan, as we know from our boots on the ground reporting, is very poor. Sick people huddle together in hallways similar to a subway, I guess like a really packed subway. People are just not hygienic at all when it comes to spitting everywhere. It's just part of Chinese culture. But what no one has really focused on

12:56 By the way, if one person can infect two, which means two out of every ten, which Democratic candidate do you think he will go down? I'm just saying. One of them's got to get it. And they're all kind of old, so that could be interesting to watch. But what no one really in the mainstream is taking a good look at is the economic effect. And that's what I find interesting. In particular, this Wuhan, as our producer told us on the last show, is very much like, well, people say it's the Chicago of China. Our producer said it's more like the Detroit of China. And I think our producer with boots on the ground is a little closer

13:33 to the fact, the reality of what Wuhan is. This is a report from Chinese CNA television. It may take quite some time before we know the full economic impact of the Wuhan virus, but the disruption is likely to dent China's economy. And that's because Wuhan is a major transport hub. In recent years, it's become a symbol of capitalism in central China with international automakers such as Honda and General Motors building cars there. In fact, reports say that more than 300 of the world's top 500 companies have a presence in Wuhan. Local government data show that Wuhan's GDP growth was 7.8% last year. Now that is 1.7 percentage points higher than the national average.

14:20 Wuhan's economic strength last year came as its total value of imports and exports hit a record high. It was 13.7 percent higher than in 2018, and it accounted for almost 62 percent of Hubei province's overall foreign trade value. Not an unimportant city, which has now been effectively shut down, no one in or out. Walmart has stuff packaged up there and the shipped over Kentucky Fried Chicken, Burger King. This is a this Detroit sounds a little fairer to me because all steel steel industry stuff. A lot of cars. This is quite an important deal economically speaking. I think

15:04 that this was floating around, it wasn't handled properly. The Chinese in the past, certainly with SARS, just haven't handled these things properly. They get in too late, they're not really transparent before you know this is out. It's because the commissioners are all fearful because they can get executed for not doing a good job. Well, of course. So they lie. The system does not promote honesty. However, having just, because you know, the timing, I liked our buddy Dave there with, oh, the timing is so coincidental. Yeah, this will distract from the impeachment hearing. I think I predicted, by the way, that this would be, that they would interrupt impeachment proceedings or in every break they'd do something about the Wuhan coronavirus. I think that's kind of true, that came out.

15:59 But is that really the thing that's coincidental or is it more coincidental that we just signed phase one of the China trade agreement and perhaps what is happening is President Xi is overcompensating because he's deathly afraid of what this will do to the Chinese economy. Already rumored to be in trouble, you never really know with the Chinese, rumored to be in trouble. There's secondary loans that seem to be falling apart, the IOU financial system which is just all pieces of paper shuttled back and forth.

16:36 And now you have all these factories which already were going to be somewhat understaffed because of the Chinese New Year, but there just may not be any product going out. And I think Xi was worried that, still may be worried, that Trump would say, you know what? I got some leverage here. How about if we stop all containers from China? Just in case, you know, we don't want some guy over there sneezing into the Walmart cereal aisle and then all of a sudden it comes over here. We should just stop that. Trump was interviewed in Davos by CNBC and later, this was a very good interview, all about economics and quote-unquote his great economy.

17:20 But the first question off the bat was an economic question about this Wahoon virus. It's great to see you. Thank you for joining us again in Davos. We've done this before. That's right. I think it was a couple of years ago. Before we get started with, we're going to talk about the economy, a lot of other things. The CDC has identified a case of coronavirus in Washington state, the Wuhan strain of this. If you remember SARS, that affected GDP, travel related effects. Have you been briefed by the CDC? Are there words about a pandemic at this point? No, we're not at all and we have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China.

18:03 And we have it under control. It's gonna be just fine. Okay, President Xi, there's just some some talk in China that maybe the transparency isn't everything that it's going to be. Do you trust that we're gonna know everything we need to know from China? I do, I do. I have a great relationship with President Xi. We just signed probably the biggest deal ever made. Yes. It certainly has the potential to be the biggest deal ever made and It was a very interesting period of time. But we got it done and no, I do. I think the relationship is very, very good. So the president has no issue at all, is not worried. I think he's really signaling to Xi saying, you know, and same with tweets. It's okay, you know, you're doing the right thing. But I think he's holding this over his head so hard. And no one is talking about the millions of Chinese in Africa.

18:54 You want to see virus spread? Introduce some crap into Africa. And that's, I think, where the Chinese will see their biggest problem if this virus really pans out, if everything they say is true. That could cause great issues. It's their whole belt and road strategy, the no belt, 15 roads, a train. I think China is in a very precarious position with this. Yeah, it could be it could be if this thing is you know what that's cracked up to be And and I like that killing one out of ten people who catch it One out of ten people the virus is not killing people. It's pneumonia this killing well The virus is responsible for one out of ten the virus is responsible at the core of it now I don't know if this is true, but I read a report and in fact it's

19:49 could be likely untrue, because you know the stuff I read and the people I talk to, that so far it really has only affected Chinese or Chinese Americans in our case, but Chinese. And it is so it appears to affect Chinese and there are now four cases in Israel which the people I spoke to said it could be that this goes by DNA and it could be Askinazi that it that will also take to and I was just thinking how cool would it be if it turned out that this virus was really deadly

20:26 But what well listen nothing. What kind of thinking is that listen? All right, it was let's just say bring out your dad. Let's put it this Let's say that there was a particular type of person That would be more susceptible to carry the virus could be Chinese or could be askin AZI Could you imagine how cool it is that all those people have their DNA with 23 and me? Wouldn't that be great if we could segregate every- Oh, I'm sorry! Yes, we looked at your 23andMe results and you are 1% Askenazi, so we're sorry, we're gonna have to quarantine you. Oh my god, that would be such a sweet moment.

21:06 So you're looking three or four levels back on this for your personal amusement. That's just my personal amusement, yeah. But I think the economic impact is being used right now by Trump as leverage without even having to say anything. Xi is, I think, is really worried. What's he got, like 15 cities shut down now completely? I mean, no traffic in and out. A little surrounding of Wuhan. Wuhan, I can see I'm looking at the map where it is and kind of in the middle of those places. What? Isn't it in the middle of China? Isn't it central? It's not really in the middle. It's kind of toward... It's kind of in a Chicago... I can see why somebody would call it Chicago because it's... Location. Chicago located. It's kind of in a nice place to transfer through. Right. It's just west of Shanghai. Yeah. And way south of Beijing. So Beijing is nowhere near this place.

22:06 It's a very interesting, people should look on the map and see where it is. It's not where I expected it to be. I was thinking it'd be more to the west. It's not quite as west. It's right on one of the big rivers so they can put the cars on a boat and send them off to the ports and send them off to the US or whatever, where they send them. When I come up, when I look at these theories and propagate them, it's only... Enhanced by the genome of the Wuhan coronavirus, you probably got a note about this, you know, a genome sequence has a bunch of letters and numbers grouped together and that represents the genome of that particular item, in this case the virus. It ends with 33 A's.

22:56 There's a lot of people noticing this and saying well. Why is that that's odd and you know no agenda producers We know it means something yeah, we just don't know what? Something's up. Yeah, it's literally 33 a's all in a row is how the genome sequence ends hmm. Just one of those things Sorry another one of those things is like I don't know, maybe this is some sort of a... There's a joke about my mom and the toilet paper in the Chinese. Yes. Well, it's not a joke, it's a fact. It's the truth. It's a fact. It's a true story. The Chinese are buying all the toilet paper. So now I have this with my wife. Did you just say your wife reminds you of your mom? Because that's never good. No. She says, oh, you got to go buy some of those face masks because the Chinese are the only people who make them and they're going to buy them all up.

23:53 It's kind of a variation on a theme. I mean, you don't need the face mask. I don't need the face mask. What do we get out? Do you leave the house like more than once a week really? There was a report about you and me stuck at home. Oh gee, what am I going to do when I'm here at home? Well, it just goes to wine collection. Yeah, exactly. I'm coming over. We'll have a look. Anyway, it'll be very interesting to see how this unfolds. I'm just looking at the economic factor. I believe the last was H1N1 the last one or SARS? I don't remember. But I believe that... No, it wasn't SARS. It was the swine flu. Oh, swine flu. And that brought down... No, the last one in China. That was SARS, I think. SARS was the last one in China. And it brought... No, I think bird flu was the last one in China. That was H1N1 then.

24:47 Yeah, that came way after SARS. But it hurt the economy by 40 or 50 billion dollars. The Chinese economy. I mean, it's not huge, but it's not nothing. You know, it makes a difference. And I think that, you know what, let me just play this. Where is it? So Trump sat down with this CNBC interview. And I, you know, normally, what are you going to clip from Trump, you know, that isn't already cut up to crap? by the M5M, you know, because he says stupid stuff. This was a very interesting interview and I was surprised at just how calmly, there was no stuttering, there was no hand-waving, it was pretty relaxed. I'll just jump to one of the clips about GDP. You know, the US had a GDP of 2%

25:41 Or is that growth of 2% over the last year? Apparently Davo is just, everyone at Davo is just freaking out about the economy. Just so happy and you know, how do we get a piece of it? But Trump kind of signals that it could have been much better because of some black swans things changed. affected GDP? Well it'll be higher than 2%. A lot of people are very thrilled with that. Me, I'm not, but we had a lot of bad things happen. Number one, the Fed was not good as far as I'm concerned and that was a big blip that should not have taken place. It should not have happened, but it's one of those things. But we have Boeing, we had the big strike with General Motors,

26:34 We had things happen that are very unusual to happen, including some unbelievably powerful storms. You know, we were hit with storms. Now, with all of that, had we not done the big raise on interest, I think we would have been close to four and I could see 5,000 to 10,000 points more on the Dow. But that was a killer when they raised the rate. It was just a big mistake. And they admit to it. They admit to it. I was right. I don't want to be right, but I was right. So what if the economy is clearly on paper and on Wall Street, the charts, it's off the chart, built on kind of magical stuff that no one understands? What if Trump, and this is the same interview where he's like, I'm not really worried about the coronavirus. What if he wouldn't mind?

27:24 having everything tank by a couple of points because of this. You know, because then he's, we were doing great and the Chinese, you know, they couldn't, they couldn't keep it together. So, all right, no, so now, but we'll build, you know, it'd be perfect for that pause. We're looking for some kind of pullback, don't you think? Well, everybody's expecting some sort of a, um, correction. Correction is the term. Yes. Correction. Um, I don't see that there's gonna be one. I mean it's possible that this could cause it. There's just a panic effect, you know, people really get all freaked out and they maybe do more telecommuting. It'd probably increase the domestic product. But having products not coming in from China, wouldn't that hurt us too?

28:12 Well, if it actually shows up to be the case, I mean right now, for example, they talk about all those cars that are being made by General Motors and Daimler and all these people that have plants in Wuhan. Those are for domestic use. The stuff that's coming in from China, which is out of the coastal cities, I don't think that's going to slow down enough to make a difference. Okay, I'm just looking at all angles. I mean, it could also be that this is... I mean, it's possible. I mean, I would think it could create a huge panic in the market. Yes. Borderline collapse, but I don't think that was going to be good for Trump's re-election. No, but well, if it If it collapses, or I don't even mean collapse, so we have a huge pullback because everyone's freaked out. It could happen.

28:57 It certainly hurt the Chinese markets. It's just hurt, you know, these things hurt markets. It would be the perfect timing for it to be to pull back. Then we fix it. We get the so-called vaccine, whatever, blah, blah. It's always the same, you know, the same scenario. So it's always the same. Yeah. And then build it back up and we'll be back to where we are right about now in November. You can't do that. What you described. especially at the point we are now, can't be done. Unless you lower interest rates yet again. It won't work. What you're describing takes too long. That's a long cycle. That takes about a year and a half, what you described. Okay. With or without interest rates going to zero. I mean, you can't lower them much more than almost nothing. I don't think it's doable. I think you would miss the timing of the off. This had to start six months ago for it to work.

29:49 Do you mind if I just play a couple of these Trump clips from Davos? Because I think you'll like it. It's really, especially because we're talking about this stuff right now. Sure. Well first let's close this out. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Sir Chris Wilson as always. Alright, so this interview, I just like the whole thing, I like what Trump was saying, he seems to have a grasp on what is actually happening, he's not the total stupid oaf that he's been portrayed to be apparently, or he just mimics

30:36 Stuff that people tell him very well So this again is the CNBC interview in Davos and it starts right off with what the scene was like in Davos This is the big elite Get together there in is it? Switzerland yes, Switzerland Ski country there's also there was one little thing just before I forget and I guess there was some, one of the governors was there and Trump was walking, and the governor was on the other side of a rope. Yeah, Governor Abbott, yeah. Yeah, Abbott. And so Trump goes by, hey, how you doing? Because Abbott's been sick or something. But it's on the other side of some rope. So they got these guys partitioned off in various ropes.

31:23 So the superstars are in, you know, the big shots are on the one side of the rope. And sadly, that rope, that rope was like at his neck height. It was kind of like a decapitation vibe because I saw the video. But Trump was saying to him, hey, man, you want me to wheel you over here? We can take you. Yeah. You want to fly? I think he even said, you want to fly back with me back to the States? You know, I'll give you a ride. So, you know, people saw... Well, no, that was generous of them, but I'm just thinking more of the way they... Oh, the segregation. ...kind of segregate people. Because I know the reporters that go to this thing, they're on some other third rope where they can't even get to the second rope. Yes, Governor Abbott is not in the A group. He's just a governor by, you know, for gosh sakes. He's not a world leader.

32:07 So everyone was digging on the US economy in Davos and they were not abashed of actually changing some of the conversation intended to go on just to talk about it. We came to Davos expecting to hear about this ESG, environmental, social and governmental issues. We expected to hear about stakeholders versus shareholders. We expected to hear about climate change. In four hours yesterday with with the CEO of Bank of America, and Schwarzman, and Plaxon. All we talked about, and all they wanted to talk about was the strength of the US economy. It's the envy of the world. And I think if you have a strong economy, all these ancillary issues become easier to deal with. And I think even the Europeans, even the plutocrats of Davos,

32:50 are now acknowledging that. Well I appreciate that very much, we do, we have an incredible economy, the consumer has never been so rich, you know. I think he means the consumer's never been so much in debt, I think that's what he meant, but okay we're rich. Between the tax cuts and the regulation cuts, people forget about regulation, I think it might have been more important than the tax cuts, but we have a consumer in the United States that has never done so well, And I think we're really poised to have tremendous potential. You know, we're at a point where we've done so well. I think we're going to do much better. We have tremendous potential. So the interest rate, the Federal Reserve's interest rate came up several times in the conversation.

33:31 And clip after this one, it'll become very clear what's so interesting to the president about it. But he already alludes to it here. And luckily, he was also asked to give his opinion on negative interest rates, which we here on the show have been following. I just want to ask you, because we're starting to see this bandied about that. The re-expansion of the Fed's balance sheet somehow correlates with the move in the stock market. You don't say? Do you think there's anything to that, that they've primed the pump and some of the gains are not warranted by the underlying economy? Well, I think it's the opposite, actually. The Fed raised too fast interest.

32:50 are now acknowledging that. Well I appreciate that very much, we do, we have an incredible economy, the consumer has never been so rich, you know. I think he means the consumer's never been so much in debt, I think that's what he meant, but okay we're rich. Between the tax cuts and the regulation cuts, people forget about regulation, I think it might have been more important than the tax cuts, but we have a consumer in the United States that has never done so well, And I think we're really poised to have tremendous potential. You know, we're at a point where we've done so well. I think we're going to do much better. We have tremendous potential. So the interest rate, the Federal Reserve's interest rate came up several times in the conversation.

33:31 And clip after this one, it'll become very clear what's so interesting to the president about it. But he already alludes to it here. And luckily, he was also asked to give his opinion on negative interest rates, which we here on the show have been following. I just want to ask you, because we're starting to see this bandied about that. The re-expansion of the Fed's balance sheet somehow correlates with the move in the stock market. You don't say? Do you think there's anything to that, that they've primed the pump and some of the gains are not warranted by the underlying economy? Well, I think it's the opposite, actually. The Fed raised too fast interest.

34:09 They brought up the rate too fast and they didn't drop it fast enough. And that was very, you know, that was a lot of increases and it was a lot of increase. and I think it's really the opposite of what you're saying. Now they've dropped it, but it was very late. And you look at other countries where they actually have negative interest rates. Negative in a positive way. I mean, they're actually... Negative in a positive way? Yeah! Getting paid, they make a loan... What does that even mean? Well, because it's negative interest rates, but it's positive somehow. But he admits he doesn't really understand it. Negative in a positive way. I mean, they're actually getting paid. They make a loan and they end up getting paid. Let's talk about that. You don't... Are you hoping

34:49 that it comes to that in the United States, that we get to negative rates? Because a lot of people don't think it's a great thing and it hasn't worked well in other places. Do you? Well, they don't know yet. It's so new. I want to know who are the people that buy. Okay, who are the people that buy? and they invest in Germany and end up getting, you know, less money at a period of time. So I have to find these people. I agree with him there. Like, who does that? But no, if Germany, and we're the most prime in the world, we're the leader in the world, we have the dollar and the dollar is very strong. A lot of things are happening. But you know we're paying higher interest than other countries because of the Fed if we were paying less I would do it and I'd pay off a lot of debt right I do a lot of things it's chairman Powell out of the doghouse is he rates where they should be are you satisfied with? I don't want to talk doghouse. I wish he didn't raise the rates that was not what I thought we had a good level now Do you feel?

35:45 I think the rate should go down. Should it go down further? No, because I think the dollar is very, very strong and I think the rate should go down. We have a very strong dollar and that sounds good and it is good in many ways, but it's very bad in terms of manufacturing. I've created almost 700,000 manufacturing jobs. The past administration said manufacturing is dead, which I said, tell me about that. How do you, you can't do that. And we have had a tremendous success, but it's harder with a strong dollar and I want this dollar to be strong. I want to be so powerful I wanted to be great, right? But if you lower the interest rates so many good things would happen right and one of the things I do want to do is pay off debt So there's a lot there you want to comment on this before I play the last clip short short clip

36:32 Yeah, he's just rattling off stuff. I don't think there's anything going on. He's not paying it off dead. Well, he's not paying it off. This is his idea. We had one of your guys, the NEC Director, Lawrence Kudlow on yesterday. We asked him about deficits and we asked him, I mean, that we acknowledge that you wanted to rebuild the defense industry and you had to agree to certain things with with the deficit in the second term will you look at this will you look at the in and with that do you need to raise taxes or do you need to cut spending we're gonna actually probably lower taxes if you want to know the truth you know you think that what we've done because the taxes and have and we've taken in more revenue substantially than we did when the taxes were high

37:12 Nobody can even believe it, but we take in more revenue with the big tax cut. I mean you were paying really 41% that we've run it down to 21 and it's sort of lower than that. That will be a priority. Oh absolutely. One of the reasons I'd like to see the interest rates lowered frankly is because I'd like to refinance the debt and pay off the debt. And we're gonna have tremendous growth. We're doing a refi! I love it! Yeah, that's what you do. Do you think we can get a refi with zero points or do you still have to throw in some points for the... and who's gonna refi us? Who does that? I love the idea the public does right? Yeah, okay So we get our money back and then we loan loan everything again in a lower rate I think the public we most of our bonds are owned by us right always take China owns right now. They always What a trillion said about it. I get some yeah

38:01 I think it's great. Refi. Well, if Trump really does his job, Deutsche Bank will end up taking the beating and they'll lose all their money and we'll be free to go. We're lucky. Yeah? Anyway. Who knows? I thought it was, you know, he's in his milieu, I think, to some extent, even though it's totally, totally he's out there with me. People always say once he's a social climber, he wants to be in the socialite world of Manhattan. This is really the world that he's in. He's beyond Manhattan. Yes, the world is none of these people are socialites in their own countries. No, they're

38:46 They make the money run. It's the money guys. Yeah, so I enjoyed it. I thought it was, you know, it was better than anything else because now we can go to the hearing, the impeachment hearing. Yeah, it was only the way I've we discussed some of these people, you know, the lib joes and these others that have these fixed thoughts about one thing or another and the two of us have kind of Isolated really stemming all stems from the New York Times Yeah, but there is a can I think I mentioned this to you in an email. There is a concentrated version if people want to know how the left

39:31 TDS, as you might want to put it, the Trump derangement syndrome folk. If you want to know where they're really getting their keys, it's really in alternate.org. And that's interesting. Yes, there was an email. I didn't even know alternate was still around. That's been around for ages since it has been around from day one, almost a little more of a kind of a progressive. Objective progressivism and now it's just pretty much anti-trump propaganda And this is where there's two mother things that the libjo said to me he expect and this comes right out of right out of As a reminder as a reminder the libjo's are the liberal journalists who have we're starting to Fade into the sunset, but they're very famous. They go unnamed on the show, but we know their level is up there They've been named

40:26 But the two things come to mind, besides Trump going to jail and Giuliani's going to jail, Nunes is going to jail, and Pence is going to jail. So you're going to jail and you're going to jail. So everyone's going to jail. And that all comes from Alternet, because I'm looking at Alternet, the more recent edition. There's a whole thing about newness and how he's up to his neck in corruption.

41:04 I watch MSNBC, although CNN, I've been switching back to CNN a lot because they have the anti-Bernie thing going on. So I'm just looking for the narratives. And of course MSNBC has this video, I guess it was kind of the October surprise, as right as Schiff is closing his arguments on Friday, we've got the news, oh, Lev Parnas, Recorded Trump in in at a dinner and you know, this was being played up really big and actually I have a clip. I have an ABC clip. What do you have? I thought the ABC clip but let me know it's long. How long is yours? Well, I have the I have a bunch of ABC clips too because I thought they had the best stuff Well before you do that, I'm just play this this opener from another source that I always use is the Trump cast

41:56 It's a slate podcast and so they have their opening montage, and then this is how this Washington Post let's make stick. Yeah, yeah, this Washington Post, but who owns they own slate correct? Yep. Okay, so here's how it starts. Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan. On the Mount Rushmore of evil American men, you might find the murderer OJ Simpson, the sex slave trafficker and child rapist Jeffrey Epstein, the sexual predator who's been accused of sexual assault over 100 times, that's Harvey Weinstein, and of course, the President of the United States, Donald Trump.

42:32 Yeah, seems like pretty unbiased that show. Wow, that's really pathetic journalism. Why did they throw Hitler and Stalin in there while they're at it? Well, he wouldn't be on Mount Rushmore because he's not an American. These are only American Mount Rushmore of evil you see. Mount Rushmore creeps. Of evil, yes. Well, I'll do this one ABC clip as an opener. It's long, but I think it really summed it all up. The president is repeatedly denied knowing Rudy Giuliani's former associate, Lev Parnas. Oh, I'm sorry. That's the Lev Parnas thing. We can talk about that later. What do you have from ABC? Well, I have four clips.

43:15 The one, the update and report good. This, let's play this as the impeach ABC update and report. This is a, I put good because it's a good clip. Tonight, President Trump's legal team didn't even warm up opening their defense straight to the point. You will find that the president did absolutely nothing wrong. Even getting personal, attacking lead house manager Adam Schiff, going after his summary of the president's phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky at the center of it all. This is the essence of what the president communicates. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand lots of it. That's fake.

43:59 That's not the real call. In their two-hour presentation, the president's lawyers repeatedly discrediting the Democrats' evidence that President Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate his political rivals by withholding military aid. Most of the Democrats' witnesses have never spoken to the president at all. let alone about Ukraine security assistance. President Trump blasting the quote totally partisan impeachment hoax while his defense team suggested that Democrats are using the trial to influence the election. They're asking you to tear up

44:37 all of the ballots across this country. Some Republican senators saying the defense's case is off to a good start. Their team entirely shredded the case that has been presented by the House managers. Tonight, the question of whether the Senate will compel witnesses and documents the president has blocked is still not resolved. But the Republican-controlled chamber appeared unmoved. They want this to be the first impeachment case in history without a single witness. So, there's only been two cases in the past, so what difference does it make? All of the history.

45:15 Yeah, I said just my general thoughts. I thought it was weak Maybe that was intentional that they want to do the the big the big show on Monday because of the timing of Saturday The whole premise was we're gonna show you things that the Democrat that the prosecution did not actually Ask yourself why and I guess it was secular kept saying that why didn't they why didn't they show that what I mean I to me that was to put Dave hedges on the Hodges on the I think that I think it's it's poor I think it's really poor to do that because why well because you know they hate Trump we know that they're not idiots yeah exactly I mean any anybody can answer that I thought it was very poor and

46:01 What I'd hope they would do, which I think if I were running this, and as you know I'm a constitutional lawyer, I would have put the transcript on the screen of the call next to, and it only showed like just a few seconds, next to Schiff with his interpretation, and I would have had it scrolling next to each other, like, oh here's what Schiff said, here's what really was said, here's what Schiff said. That's what I would have done. That's something that would show to- That's show business. Exactly! And maybe Ken Starr or the other Epstein cover-up artist Dershowitz. Dersh. Dersh. Dersh. Hey, I have my underpants on and it was an old lady. Maybe those two will bring the show but they better do something because I didn't think it was impressive at all. Interestingly, you know right after and again I was monitoring

46:58 MSNBC, or as the president now said, MSDNC. I hadn't heard that one, I thought it was funny. And CNN. And within three minutes of coming out of this three hours of ask yourself why, Jeffrey Toobin, my colleague, also a constitutional lawyer, had nothing more to say than this. Jay Sekulow was the only personal lawyer who spoke today. That to me was pretty striking. White House and white people. I mean, you know, this is a lesson in the diversity of the two parties. I mean, you look at the house managers, it was almost evenly divided between men and women. It was, you had two African-Americans, you had a Hispanic. I mean, you know, look, it was all white men today. There are two white women on, allegedly, on the team. We'll see if they're allowed to argue. But I mean, I think, you know, in a visual medium, when you have one side,

47:56 that has a very diverse team and the other side that's all white men, that says something in and of itself. Oh yeah. I mean, seriously? How is hating on whitey going to benefit the Democrats? This is, I was thinking about this listening to some of this stuff going on by some of these people. It was like why are you just hating on whitey and you expect that to be some sort of benefit? And he's a constitutional lawyer He should be talking about something else other well that says it right there looks a bunch of pail I D no pale males. I think is the male male male so that's some bronzer There's no doubt about that, but that's beside the point I

48:40 You know, by the way, in that thing where that clip I played from ABC where some one of the Congresswomen or senators said they shredded the other side. It's shredded. Actually, Joni Ernst. And Joni Ernst. From Happy Days? Sorry? I'm sorry. Joni Ernst, you know, the gun-toting senator from Iowa that did the ads where she's, you know, butchering a chicken or something. I forgot what she did, but shot a deer. But she's a tough Marine type woman. Oh yes, yes, I know who she is, yeah. She looks terrible. Her hair's all gray all of a sudden and...

49:20 Yeah, there's a new study out about gray hair as a result of any sort of stress you boom your hair can turn gray overnight That's I think that's not new. I remember. It's not new, but it's a new study I said back in the 70s I remember people said oh he had a really bad shock, and that's why his hair started to go gray. I've heard this yeah, but he's heard it, but no I didn't know I thought that was already accepted science is what I'm saying. Oh, I don't I don't know that it is I don't think anyone studied it I think that just a commonplace common knowledge is like, you know wives still are too great because you know He's worried but apparently anxiety Specifically will cause your hair to turn gray quickly and she's called gray-haired what happened to her. Yeah, I

50:04 They're putting a lot of pressure on her because, oh, you know, a Democrat can beat you. I think the local party in some of these states are really evil, local Republican parties in some states. California is a good example. It's a terrible Republican party here. So I learned, and I think that this impeachment for the public version of it will obviously be litigated on television and it seems like it'll be obviously Fox News against everybody else. At least that's the way Fox News positions everybody else as the mainstream media even though they have the best ratings. It's very interesting how they do that. Millions of people more watch them.

50:45 But there were some things said not during the, or I learned some things not mentioned during the impeachment presentations. This is actually right after the president's defense. Forget who it is who came out and set everybody up so they could talk on the microphone, but where we had this whole, and this should have been, I think, in the presentation, but maybe it'll come up later. Throughout this whole impeachment trial in the Senate so far, it's all about the process and Russia is our archenemy and we really need America's national security, our interest to make sure that

50:04 They're putting a lot of pressure on her because, oh, you know, a Democrat can beat you. I think the local party in some of these states are really evil, local Republican parties in some states. California is a good example. It's a terrible Republican party here. So I learned, and I think that this impeachment for the public version of it will obviously be litigated on television and it seems like it'll be obviously Fox News against everybody else. At least that's the way Fox News positions everybody else as the mainstream media even though they have the best ratings. It's very interesting how they do that. Millions of people more watch them.

50:45 But there were some things said not during the, or I learned some things not mentioned during the impeachment presentations. This is actually right after the president's defense. Forget who it is who came out and set everybody up so they could talk on the microphone, but where we had this whole, and this should have been, I think, in the presentation, but maybe it'll come up later. Throughout this whole impeachment trial in the Senate so far, it's all about the process and Russia is our archenemy and we really need America's national security, our interest to make sure that

51:26 Ukraine had the weaponry it needed and the military assistance. So to date the defense of that has been, well Obama gave water and blankets and we gave tank busting rackets. It's like, okay. But this is perhaps a better one. The facts of this case remain the same and those facts are Ukraine in fact received the security assistance and there was no investigation into the Bidens. And a really really important point that I think you should all report for the American people is that when it comes to supporting Ukraine security assistance, three of the Democratic House managers voted no. They voted in opposition of the US providing defensive security assistance to Ukraine. Those members are Jerry Nadler, Zoe Lofgren, and Hakeem Jeffries.

52:14 Wow, that's clip of the day. That's a nugget, right? Hey, hold on a second. Nobody picks up on this stuff. That was fantastic. One of the things that bothers me is this, uh, our ally Ukraine. Yeah. What are, how many of our allies, for example, uh, do we have no extradition agreement with what ally? In the world, do we have no extradition? We have a lot of extradition agreements because some criminal runs off to the place. You want to get him up, you want to get him back, you want to put him on trial. We have nothing like that with Ukraine. It's just the same as it is with Russia. We've got nothing, no extradition. What kind of an ally is this bullcrap, this ally? Well, you bring it up and I cued up the clip just in case it would come to this, so you've kind of forced my hand.

53:05 I feel it would be appropriate to play the phone call from 2014, I believe, that was intercepted by the Russians and released in great quality, which is why our own State Department said that had to be the Russians, of Victoria Nuland setting up the government of Ukraine for a complete coup, or we could call it a regime change. And I think it might be worthwhile, you know, it's now six years later, to just listen again to what we were really doing in Ukraine and that may explain or make it clear to people why this is our allies because our fingers were throughout the whole government. What do you think?

53:53 I love that clip. It's three minutes, so it is long. But I think- It's a good clip. People probably not heard this clip for a while, if they've heard it at all. But a lot of listeners probably never heard this clip. This is the, nobody knows for sure it was the Russians who tapped the phone and released it to the public. But I would think it would be the Russians, because it was to benefit them. It was a, but I agree, it was an astonishingly good clip. I mean, they might as well have been in the room. They might have been in the room. Newland's talking to someone back in the States and they're talking about who should be in the government, who shouldn't be in the government, who's going to help us make this happen, and then some other tidbits. This is before the regime change that took place that we orchestrated and people like

54:52 John Brennan were actually in Ukraine at the time. John McCain, John Brennan, Victoria Nuland, Lindsey Graham handing out cookies at the Maidan. McCain taking pictures with known terrorists who might have been at the Maidan. I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but it seems like he was pretty involved in that. And so not only does this show you why there are allies, if you think about corruption and people getting stuff, and when you put a government in place and you are literally putting the president and the prime minister and the foreign, you're putting these pieces on the chessboard,

55:29 there's kind of room for corruption. What do you think? I think we're in play. The Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here, especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister. And you've seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now. So we're trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you'll need to make, I think that's the next phone call we want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yotz. And I'm glad you... So Yotz is Yotzinuk. Remember the guy who looks like a bass player of a bad 70s band? And all of a sudden he was the guy. He might be dead for all we know. That guy's gone. Sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I'm very glad he said what he said in response.

56:15 Good, so I don't think cleats should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's a good idea No regime change here Yeah, I mean I guess do you think uh... what who's in terms of him not going into the government just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff i'm just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead we want to keep the moderate democrats together the problem is going to be tiny book and his guys and you know i'm sure that's part of what you have a coach is calculating on all of this um... i i i i

56:53 I think Yats is the guy who's got the economic experience, the governing experience. What he needs is a cleach and tawny book on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week. You know. Not only setting up who's going to be in the government, but explaining how we're going to talk to the people we're not going to let in the government. And Victoria Nuland, just to understand, was the ambassador. She's the assistant secretary of state. Right. But I think she had like an ambassador title because of it. But yes, assistant secretary of state. But high up and of course married to Robert Kagan.

57:31 The Peace Foundation. Yes, oh yeah, those guys are not neocons at all. I just think Kleech going in, he's gonna be at that level working for Yatsinuke, it's just not gonna work. Yeah, no, I think that's right. Okay. Good, well do you want us to try to set up a call with him as the next step? My understanding from that call that you tell me was that the big three were going into their own meeting and that Yats was going to offer in that context a three-way, you know, the three plus one conversation or three plus two with you. Is that not how you understood it? No, I think I mean that's what he proposed, but I think just knowing the dynamics. It's been with them where Which goes been the top dog he's gonna take a while to show up for whatever meeting they've got he's probably talking to his guys at this point so I think you reaching out directly to him helps with the personality management among the three and it gives you also a chance to Move fast on all this stuff and put us behind you before we get to the great quote here just a reminder that part of the impeachment hearings is

58:34 that are going on now, the prosecution is very clear that we were really endangering our ally, the European Union, the European Union, who we have to protect at all cost. So anything we do in Ukraine is to help the European Union. Those are our brothers and sisters. Keep that in mind. ...behind it before they all sit down and he explains why he doesn't like it. Okay, good. I'm happy. Why don't you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after? Okay, will do. Thanks. Okay, I've now written... Oh, one more wrinkle for you, Jeff. Yeah.

59:18 I can't remember if I told you this or if I only told Washington this that when I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning he had a new name for the UN guy Robert Seri. Oh yeah that's right we needed to get people to come in and help put this deal together listen to all the All the hoodlums who are coming in to help with- who have nothing- they're not Ukrainians, nothing to do with Ukraine. Oh, we're gonna bring in some elites for you to fix this, to midwife it. If I only told Washington this, that when I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for the UN guy, Robert Sary. Did I write you that this morning? Yeah, I saw that.

59:53 He's now gotten both Sari and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Sari could come in Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, bring Ban Ki-moon in to bless the deal. Sure, although these guys make so much sense, Secretary General. You know what's funny about this, listening to her, I forgot this part of Noodleman. She sounds just like Nurse Cratchit in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Just this cold, calculating style. Sad, but yes. He's now gotten both Sari and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Sari could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it. And, you know, fuck the EU. What?

1:00:36 Wait a minute! This is our brothers and sisters we're supposed to protect? How can this be? Remember if I told you this or if I only told Washington this, that when I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning he had a new name for the UN guy, Robert Serry. Did I write you that this morning? Yeah, I saw that. He's now gotten both Serry and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Serry could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it. And, you know, fuck the EU. No, exactly. And I think we've got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude, the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. And again, the fact that this is out there right now, I'm still trying to figure out in my mind why Yanukovych did that.

1:01:27 But in the meantime, there's a party of regions faction meeting going on right now, and I'm sure there's a lively argument going on in that Let's bring in some more people to help close this deal. But anyway, we could land jelly side up on this one if we move fast. So let me work on Klitschko and if you can just keep, I think we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych, but we'll probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.

1:02:03 So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note, Sullivan's come back to me, VFR, saying you need Biden. And I said, probably tomorrow for an attaboy and get the deets to stick. So Biden's willing. OK, great. Thanks. It was Nurse Ratched, by the way. I didn't realize until listening to this thing a second time that Biden was involved in this scam. Yeah, he was there to bless it, you know, to give an attaboy and to make the deets stick. And when I hear this and I hear how all those people testified about the process and our policy

1:02:55 What these people want, and I'm saying everyone, everybody, all sides, this has nothing to do with partisan. What these diplomats, bureaucrats, and politicians want is they really want it to be like the EU, you know, where Senate, we'll choose the president. This is exactly how they did this. Like, okay, yeah, your party wins, but we're gonna choose the guy, you know, and we're much smarter than you. We're technocrats. You don't understand this stuff, you stupid people. To me, that's what they want. They want it to be just like the EU.

1:03:33 I agree. Listening to the more recent stuff going on about the impeachment and the rest, the new meme that's been pointed out by all the right-wingers, they say this and until you start looking for it, you don't see this much, but then you start seeing it quite a bit, which is they're already predetermining that the next election is going to be rigged. by Trump and it's going to be illegal. So the Senate should determine. It's easier, it's more trustworthy if the Senate determines who wins. Speaking of Nunes, who as we know will soon be in jail,

1:04:12 I learned something from an appearance he had on Fox, which I really, I can't believe that we, in all the years we've done the show, we never looked into it. The National Security Council, when I say, when I hear National Security Council, what do you, I mean, we know there's a, there's the National Security Advisor and the National Security Advisor that was most recently Bolton, now we have another guy in, forgot his name. Do you know anything about the National Security Council? I mean, to me, it's like a room, 12 guys, you know, we got the military brass in there. Do you know anything about the National Security Council? Well, they work for the president specifically.

1:04:53 And it's just a little, it's a little group of advisors called the National Security Council. Yeah, that's what I thought too. Oh, well, how am I wrong there? Well, this, you know, Colonel Vindman, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, please address him as Lieutenant Colonel Vindman. He is on the National Security Council. And let me just tell you, he's still on the National Security Council. And here's Nunes to, for me, information I did not have. I thought the same thing you did. There's a lot of problems with the National Security Council and the Trump administration is trying to get it under control. The new National Security Advisor is doing what the previous National Security Advisors under Trump didn't do. And that is to try to reduce the size and scope. So there's hundreds and hundreds of people over at the National Security Council which, look,

1:05:41 Look, I've never been on the National Security Council, but if you go back 20, 30 years ago during the Reagan days, I'm told that you had a couple dozen people, maybe three, maybe four dozen people total that were on the National Security Council. Obama put hundreds. And from all this, don't forget... You also had people that were on the national security staff that went over to Adam Schiff's staff, okay, that knew the whistleblower. Vindman, the guy, you know, he served his country, that's great, he wants to be called Lieutenant Colonel, that's fine. His brother's also there as a lawyer. So all of these people colluded and coordinated with the whistleblower, they coordinated with Adam Schiff's staff. So, you know, really what you had there is you had a den of thieves there at the National Security Council. Look, I have said this,

1:06:26 over and over and over again I said this to McMaster, I said it to Bolton, and I've said it to the new National Security Advisor O'Brien. that they just need to get all those people out of there. Like if you were there and worked for Obama and you were a holdover, just, you know, get a used building somewhere on the other side of the Potomac. Just get them out of there. Hundreds of people on this thing from, well, I guess I was right though in the fifties. Yeah. Back when we first heard about it, that no wonder, no wonder. No wonder we've got all these... I think they're in the White House. Don't they assemble or in the executive building or something? Well, that's what's implied by what Nunes just said. I mean, and so Vindman... So this is a bunch of Obama guys and they're just screwing things up. They're the ones who are causing problems. But the interesting thing about Lieutenant Colonel Vindman is his brother, who apparently is also on the National Security Council, is a hedge fund guy, lawyer he says here, but he's a hedge fund guy.

1:07:25 And his fund received a $1.4 billion fine for all kinds of shenanigans in, oh gee, Ukraine. It's amazing what is going on. We have no idea. And then I'll stop. But One American News had an interview with a whistleblower from the, it's the, the net, what is this thing called again? The net assessment, the office of net assessment. I've heard of this, the office of net assessment. It's a Pentagon thing. But wait until you learn about what this, this is fantastic. Senator Chuck Grassley has expanded his investigation into the Department of Defense's office of net assessment. The office was supposed to be a unique, futuristic think tank reporting directly

1:06:26 over and over and over again I said this to McMaster, I said it to Bolton, and I've said it to the new National Security Advisor O'Brien. that they just need to get all those people out of there. Like if you were there and worked for Obama and you were a holdover, just, you know, get a used building somewhere on the other side of the Potomac. Just get them out of there. Hundreds of people on this thing from, well, I guess I was right though in the fifties. Yeah. Back when we first heard about it, that no wonder, no wonder. No wonder we've got all these... I think they're in the White House. Don't they assemble or in the executive building or something? Well, that's what's implied by what Nunes just said. I mean, and so Vindman... So this is a bunch of Obama guys and they're just screwing things up. They're the ones who are causing problems. But the interesting thing about Lieutenant Colonel Vindman is his brother, who apparently is also on the National Security Council, is a hedge fund guy, lawyer he says here, but he's a hedge fund guy.

1:07:25 And his fund received a $1.4 billion fine for all kinds of shenanigans in, oh gee, Ukraine. It's amazing what is going on. We have no idea. And then I'll stop. But One American News had an interview with a whistleblower from the, it's the, the net, what is this thing called again? The net assessment, the office of net assessment. I've heard of this, the office of net assessment. It's a Pentagon thing. But wait until you learn about what this, this is fantastic. Senator Chuck Grassley has expanded his investigation into the Department of Defense's office of net assessment. The office was supposed to be a unique, futuristic think tank reporting directly

1:08:19 to the Secretary of Defense. But Grassley, in his January 22nd letter, noted the office may have become a part of the deep state. He asks if the office awarded contracts to Stefan Halper, who hired the Russian intelligence officer and who contributed to the now discredited Trump dossier. To dig into this obscure office, whistleblower Adam Lovinger, in his exclusive interview, talks to us about how it has become a slush fund for Washington's politically connected There was some very deliberate thinking that went into the placement of the office, that this had to be the Secretary of Defense's think tank to advise him on difficult strategic challenges. The Office of Net Assessment produced no net assessments to inform our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has produced no net assessment on Iran, for example.

1:09:09 And so truly, when you look at the range of threats to the United States, the office has actually avoided all of those. And what Senator Grassley has revealed in his letter is that it's really a two-part problem. One is that the office is derelict in its duty, its primary duty, to produce these high-level strategies known as net assessments. And secondly, what has it become? And what it's become is a slush fund for politically connected contractors. The contracting system in the Office of Net Assessment is utterly broke. The contractors chosen are not chosen for their ability to contribute to net assessments, which is really

1:09:50 the reason why they should be chosen. They're chosen because they're the friends of the leadership of Net Assessment. The office, unfortunately, I mean the leadership was put in place by President Obama. It leans leftward. It's an office that has historically downplayed the strategic threats posed to the United States by our adversaries. So we've got the National Security Council filled with people who hate Trump. We've got the Pentagon with paying this, what was it, the professor who was part of the whole Sting operation.

1:10:30 And just to make it crazy, I don't know, do you want to play one of your Lev Parnas clips? You had an ABC thing and then we can almost be done with this. A couple of them here. Let's play, yeah, look, this Lev Parnas guy. You know, I want to mention this, you know, they, they, they make a big, they try to dramatize the fact that Trump said, I never met, I don't know who this guy is. As if everybody that ever has a picture taken with Trump I could have had a picture taken with Trump and Trump could honestly say, because you can get a picture taken with Trump if you're in the right circumstance, and he'll take your picture and you know, you get a picture. It doesn't mean he knows you or ever, you know, even remember you. No, but the problem is they're spinning it because now there's this video where you actually hear Parnas say something and Trump responds. Yeah, we have it here. Right.

1:11:21 They're spinning this. I know what they're doing, but I don't think they're even spinning it. I think they're dramatizing it. That's a better way. So let's start with Impeach. ABC goes after Trump about Lev. A brand new phase of the president's impeachment trial underway in Washington and tonight new developments in a story ABC News was first to report. Tonight audio and now video of President Trump at a small gathering with Rudy Giuliani, associate Lev Parnas, you see him here, and others. Parnas recently indicted for campaign finance fraud is someone the president has repeatedly denied knowing. On the recording, a voice sounding like the president's orders the removal of Ukraine Ambassador Maria Yovanovitch saying, take her out.

1:11:59 Sources familiar with the recording say it's from a Trump Hotel private dinner in the spring of 2018. ABC's David Wright at the White House tonight starting us off. Mr. President, thank you for being here. April 2018, President Trump arrives at a private dinner at the Trump International Hotel. Don Jr.'s there, so is indicted Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas. And there's the place set for the president. On the tape, a voice identified as Parnas can be heard telling Trump that the ambassador to Ukraine was bad-mouthing him. Yeah, she's basically walking around telling everybody, wait, he's going to get impeached. Just wait. I mean...

1:12:41 It's incredible. Get rid of her. Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it. President Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't know Lev Parnas. I don't know him. I don't believe I've ever spoken to him. But on the tape, they talk in detail about Ukraine. How long have they lasted a fight with Russia? Not very long. Without us, not very long. were you relying on lead harness to get rid of your ambassador? no but I have a lot of people and speaking to Fox News the president did not question the authenticity of the tape but were you telling harness to get rid of her? I mean you have a state department well I wouldn't have been saying that I probably would have said it was Rudy there or somebody but I make no

1:13:26 bones about it. I want to have ambassadors. I have every right. I want ambassadors that are chosen by me. I have a right to hire and fire ambassadors. The recall of Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch features prominently in the Democrats case against the president. You know what's funny about this, and if you look it up on, even Snopes has this, is that Trump fired all the ambassadors when he first got into office. Yeah, they didn't all leave, but yes. She didn't leave. She refused to go. I'm staying here. And so nobody ever even brings that up. I mean, it wasn't as though he hasn't been trying to get rid of her. No, you're right, because the dramatization is perfect. We have the president saying, well, I don't think I ever spoke to him. And clearly, damning evidence at a meetup. At a meetup. I mean, I don't want to degrade our meetups because our meetups are really fantastic.

1:14:21 Our meetups are fantastic, but you won't remember everybody's name. No. Now, this is part two of that clip. All right, David Wright joins us now live from the White House. And David, there's no evidence of anything illegal on this tape, which was recorded on the phone by another indicted Giuliani associate. Both men have pleaded not guilty to charges. But David, Democrats believe this bolsters their case. They do Tom for two reasons first face it shows that despite his efforts to distance himself the president had Firsthand knowledge of at least some of the work being done in Ukraine by Giuliani and his associates Also, it suggests there may well be other material out there that we haven't seen yet relevant to the impeachment yes

1:15:05 There's all kinds of material that may be out there. I like the way they use indicted this guy. Oh, yeah, the indicted. The indicted, yes. When does that become something that's kosher? Well, how about just saying the not yet indicted John C. Dvorak? I mean, that's perfectly... You could say that. The not yet indicted Adam Curry. You might as well say that about everybody. Well, I'm going to say it about us. It's bad. It's really a bad form. I am the not yet indicted Adam Curry. I just want to make sure everybody knows. Not yet. So Lev Parnas is of course the character that is very interesting. The Keeper, I think, nails it by saying, oh, it's the new Avenatti. I think she's right, although this one belongs more to MSNBC than to CNN. Well, Avenatti also was a superstar hero. He's going to run for president and all the rest. This guy starts off indicted, so it's not quite Avenatti. But check this out.

1:16:02 George Webb, investigative journalist George Webb, double B, who does fantastic work. I always wonder how the guy makes his money because he's all, he travels all over, he's all over the US mainly, but he's international. He does 45 minutes of video a day. It's impossible to keep up with him. But he's down in Florida, or at least he was on the 22nd when he shot this. I pulled the clip. And he's right across from the Afghan-Pakistani Center of Excellence, which is right by the base there. And of course, it's a spook training operation. And he has some interesting connections.

1:16:40 to that and others and left Parnas. Staying here very close to try to get as much information as we can, especially about this center that was established called the Afghan Pakistan Center of Excellence, the AfPak Center of Excellence or COE. And that's going to become very important in CENTCOM's recruiting a private set of DIA informants that are used and were used politically and have been used politically at least since 2012. The APAC COE was established in 2009. One of the key directors was a guy named Derek Harvey and he is the handler and recruiter of Lev Parnas. He is the handler and recruiter of Lev Parnas. So, Lev Parnas was trained here in Tampa

1:17:32 We also have Hina Alvi who was the sidekick or the main contact for encrypted communications for Debbie Wasserman Schultz through Imran Awan. We also have the person who lured Roger Stone with emails from Hillary, supposedly the hacked Russian emails, a guy named OKNY Ansky. And he was or his gnome to plume was Hank Greenberg. But he was also came through this AFPAC center. We have the IP numbers from when they went to training. That was their fatal flaw. That was the piece of

1:18:10 When they went off to training from here in Tampa over to Fort Huachuca when they did their initial training to be DIA informants, that's where they left these telltale IP addresses. We know I should say here that it's a much longer piece of course, but Webb has evidence router logs and the somehow He's been able to connect Parnas's device to IP addresses coming from this training center. Now, how he got that I'm not sure, maybe it's one of the previous videos, but when Webb says he has proof of the IP addresses and that it came from that device, I'm just gonna believe him, because otherwise it'd be a short show. ...left these telltale IP addresses. We know that Lev Parnas, the star witness of Adam Schiff's impeachment,

1:19:01 shares not only one set of IP numbers with Derek Harvey and one set of IP numbers with Peter Strzok, the key architect of all the takedown Trump. The takedown of Crossfire Hurricane, the CIA takedown before that, the transition attempt to takedown with Mike Flynn, the attempt to takedown with the Oconus lures after that, the attempt to takedown with the Mueller plan. Again and again and again, all these lures by Peter Strzok We have the key star witness for Adam Schiff, Lev Parnas, sharing IP numbers at Fort Huachuca.

1:19:37 I can't get enough of this. This is fantastic. It writes itself. It does write itself. Now, when I get one of my one last clip, which is the one, you know, all these left, all the left harness, all the rest of it. And even that last report from ABC that I played always hinted, well, there's more to come or there's more. This is this is all about a vote taking place later this week. This is all about this. Whether or not they're gonna call any witnesses. Mm-hmm because you guys already did your impeachment thing you want to call more witnesses I mean it's not and the house isn't running things and and they've already insulted the senators a couple of senators that may have said yes and now not gonna say yes because When the short fat guy went out there that hard gun Nadler at Nadler he

1:20:26 he insulted the Senate and everybody got bent out of shape about it. There was one analyst on MSNBC or CNN, one of the two, who said you never insult a jury if you ever expect to win a case. So he's losing votes. But there's always one steadfast guy who will probably vote on the side of the Democrats in all circumstances because, well, he's the number one Trump hater for various reasons. I have my own theories, but this is the Impeach ABC update two witnesses. Okay, Keira Phillips joins us now from Capitol Hill, watching it all play out today. Keira, in a major development today, Republican Senator Mitt Romney is indicating he may now support hearing from the witnesses. That's right. This is the furthest he has gone, Tom, saying now it's very likely that he will be in favor of witnesses in the Senate trial. But remember, Democrats will need at least four

1:21:20 Republican senators to vote in favor of calling witnesses and right now even with Romney It's far from clear that they have enough support for witnesses when that's put to a vote next week Tom No, okay So when when it's when it's almost certain that no one else is gonna vote Romney comes out to be the hero even though he definitely doesn't want anyone uncovering stuff that had going on in Ukraine Yeah, yeah. Doesn't he have a kid also? Yeah, he's involved, but he can look good in this situation. First you have to wait, make sure that after the insult and everything they turn the whole, everybody that may be on the fence against the idea of voting for witnesses.

1:22:02 Romney looks back, looks left, looks right, he says, I'm in, I'll do it. Unbelievable. Yeah, the guy is the worst. I didn't imagine what a creep he was. And with that, I'd like to, I'm sorry? I said until recently. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the coronavirus, John Cena. Good morning to you, Mr. M. Curry. Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots and ground feet in the air, subs in the water and all the names and ice out there. In the morning to our trolls in the troll room. Let's do a quick count. See how many trolls are in there today. Today we have one thousand two hundred and seventy six. Yes. A lot of interest for our deconstruction of the virus. And also what?

1:22:48 What I said I said hmm 276 yes 276 That is no which I just count overflow sorry Now we have no overflow room, they're all in there. 1,276 all in one room. And they're trolls and that's what's great about it because the trolls just hang out and they troll. They troll each other, they troll the live shows, the hosts of the live shows. They're trolling me at this very moment and I love it because we don't really have any rules other than thou shalt troll a lot and sometimes it's helpful and usually it's just annoying but it makes for good content I find and a fun place to hang out. 24-7 we've got shows there rolling all the time, great podcasts and a great place to hang out and as part of our No Agenda network. Also a big in the morning to Comicstrip blogger, two in a row he'll be looking for the hat trick. He brought us the artwork for episode 1210. The title of that was Pain of Imprisonment which is exactly what the senators have right now, pain of being imprisoned in the chamber.

1:23:52 And he did a nice kind of Chinese rubber ball coronavirus made in China rendering. And I don't think we had any argument. It was good to go, wasn't it? Was there anything else we looked at? We looked at all of them, of course, as usual, but that was the best of the group. It also pops a little bit. Let's see what else. That really was the best one. And I want to remind the artists that when you are creating artwork, look at it in the small overview. of submitted art. Don't look at it in the, you know, in the five, was it the 512 by 512? 512. Yeah, that's not, you're not going to see that. You won't see that on the iPhone, you won't see it in the tweets, you won't see it anywhere except if you click through to the album art in the show notes or at the art generator. So when you've got a lot of stuff together and text, you can already kind of determine that it just, it's not going to work.

1:24:52 Little there was one piece that I like but unfortunately and let me take a look where it was Yeah, there's no agenda is masters data. Yeah, the little logo down there on the Spotify logo Yeah, it was too small the Spotify logo. You can't even read it on this pay. I mean, it's a nice piece I like the piece and I like the colors but the little Spotify logo is not readable if you maybe had put it on the side of the horn bigger That might have worked exactly But of course the work of all artists is incredibly appreciated. It is such a...

1:25:30 Such a super feature of the show and of our value for value network. And you know, we're working on a new homepage, but if you want to see how great the artwork looks in context, go to noagendaexperience.com. You can really see how good that looks. Just like, holy crap, look at all these different pieces of art. What is going on? This show must be fantastic. I'm subscribing right away. So thank you very much comic strip blogger. We'll see how he does if he goes for the hat trick today. No agenda Rock him. They're blocking is underway. What don't say don't even make fun of this But you already blocked him you've blocked him on Twitter, and he's very upset. I'm saying they're gonna block his art No, who you know the artists are gonna do something to spectacular pieces. Oh, okay? They're going for the they're gonna block his hat trick you mean oh

1:26:21 Yeah, like a good goal like a defenseman would do on the hockey field. You know, we just saw the All-Star game this weekend. But we of course are completely fair and we just pick based upon what we think is right. And we look at who the artists are in Chile. And by the way, since you mentioned the All-Star game, can I just briefly rescind my prediction on the Super Bowl with a quick explanation? What? I know. Something came up. I got new information. This has never happened before. Because some strong information came to me, which I guess I could have known. You could have even brought it up. The reason why it seems San Francisco 49ers will win as twofold. One, I've learned from our Kansas City meetup that the Chiefs were not named after an Indian tribe, but after a mayor chief.

1:27:15 So that kind of hurts my argument. Does that also account for the fact that there's an Indian head on the helmet? No, but I think when it comes to social justice issues, there's only a few things that will beat out the abuse of minorities, which would be redskins, chiefs, etc. And that would be the fact that Katie Sowers will become the first female coach in a Super Bowl and she's gay. They're gonna win. Oh yes, do we have a female coach on the Niners? She's assistant offensive coordinator. And she's gay.

1:27:54 Well, yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean? Well, yes, she's expect No, I'm not that I disagree with what you're saying. Okay, I'm sorry, but the social justice warrior and is in I Got that part, but I got another one for you. Mm-hmm The last time the Nannies were in the Super Bowl is the only one they ever lost and it and the quarterback at the time was Kaepernick They have to win so they can make Kaepernick, so the league can make Kaepernick the loser. Oh, right, right. Get him out of the scene. He's gotta go. Right. Now, on donations, I have one more thing to do before we get to our very helpful executive producers and associate executive producers. Several weeks back,

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1:29:34 And they're off in the Cal Cup Derby. Dapper, better trip Nick hustled up now to take the lead. The odds are 9-2 for Fast Pulse. Club Aspen in the red colors mid-pack about five lengths off to speed into the first turn and now moving toward the inside to save a bit of ground. on the fence is Indian Peak who's moved up within four lengths of the pacemaker at the back of the field now fast enough back in front of rookie mistake and big return Indian Peak is down on the fence only two lengths off the speed fast enough is trying to launch a wide bid on the outside of the field

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1:39:13 Okay, well sir Chris Wilson will have to track that himself obvious Chris if Chris is gonna go along with this We can Yeah, we can attribute that no problem. We can do it, but he has to keep track of but then he actually became He'll have to become Dame Duke because it's a Dame Drive, and now it's a Duke Drive I think he should he's a specific drive for him, okay? Let's face it, Day Master's gonna end up making him a Duke. Day Master, the Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea, long-term supporter along with Sir Mark, but Day Master really writes the notes. She writes the notes. Thank you so much. Always lovely to hear from you. And thank you, Sir Chris. That was indeed

1:39:58 It was long, but it was a very entertaining impeachment song. If you didn't hear it, listen to it at the end of 1210. Michael Bernstein is up next in Monrovia, California, with $200.07. He sent a check in, but he didn't say anything about his business card, which is a very small little business card. Very dinky little business card. And so when you go to his website mutualwin.com, you discover he is a promoter and developer of tiny homes back east. Oh, there he is. So his little business card is a reflection of the tiny homes. Cool.

1:40:35 And I looked at the, if you go to his website, it's very interesting. He puts tiny homes in historical areas. What's the, what's the web? I want to look at his tiny homes. What's the website? Mutualwin, all one word, mutualwin.com. Mutualwin.com. And these are attractive little tiny homes that are very well outfitted. 300 square feet. Wow, these are cute. Yeah, they're very cute. I can get a deal and throw one in the backyard. Why not? This is fantastic. Well, you got enough room. Well, yeah. You could clear some trees. You could develop your backyard and do about 10 of these things. Yeah! And then have all kinds of fun people living in the back. I can hear Tina's eyes roll as we speak. They're very good looking, very modern. Nice. 312 square feet's enough. Sir Colton in Fresno, California is up next with $200.

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1:44:27 I'm they look very appropriate nice. Oh, and I want to thank sir pokey I just briefly sir pokey sent me a fully configured bare-metal Linux laptop now the laptop is off eBay seven years old but man Truly shows you the power of Linux, and I won't go any deeper into it now, but I appreciate sir pokey doing that for me. That's not I Bloatware zero bloatware, but how fast fast fast It's just crazy how fast this thing is and it's running at its old and an i7. Yeah, whatever Whatever an old laptop weighs about 18 pounds It works best on heavy hardware apparently

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1:46:11 Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth I think that sounds pretty good I May have to run that end of show again. It's so good. You know that you have to ask yourself when she did that What is she thinking? Why did she say that? She's trying to appeal to middle America with an accent. I guess good. I

1:46:48 I think something like that seems about right to me. Well, she also corrected herself after she did, and she said it sounds pretty good, normal speak. Hey, the Armageddon is upon us! There always is. No, no, no. Now, now. Just 100 seconds away. We are closer to doomsday than ever before according to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. They created the doomsday clock at the University of Chicago and based the countdown to midnight on how much time civilization has left. Two years ago they moved the clock to two minutes to midnight, closer than it had been since 1953 when the United States and Soviet Union successfully tested hydrogen bombs.

1:47:29 Now they've moved it to 100 second to midnight, closest it's been since being created following World War II. The reasons why are political leaders, ending of nuclear arms agreement between the United States, Iran and Russia, and failure to address climate change. Oh my goodness, failure to address climate change. So now this group of nuke guys has decided that they're all in on climate change and that they're now, they get to set the clock based upon climate change activity. That's where the money is, baby. Money. That's right. And so who did they invite to be on their board of elders? Which, and of course- Elgar. No! No, no, no, no. Elgar. No, no, no, no. Moonbeam!

1:48:14 Jerry Brown. Yeah. Speaking of danger and destruction... This is him with the elders, the atomic scientists. He was invited to speak. It's never very easy. If you speak the truth, people will not want to listen because it's too awful. And it makes you sound like a crackpot. Oh, really? Our own president in front of the Davos businessmen of the world. called out against what he called the prophets of doom. Now he didn't particularize on what doom he was talking about, but I think back to the prophets of old, to Isaiah, to Jeremiah, are ones who don't necessarily know the future, but they warn of the danger that they see ahead. Today we live in a world

1:49:09 vast deep and pervasive complacency. So let me get this straight. So he's calling himself one of the biblical prophets because he's truly warning and he's not one of those crackpots? Is that what he's saying? Well if you want to interpret it that way I'd say absolutely that's what he's saying. Unbelievable. That guy is a crackpot. Told you that's why they call him Moonbeam. Yeah. Unbelievable. Crazy. I'm Governor Jerry Brown. That song, that old Ted Kennedy song still works. Hey, I sent you a copy of the Spike Jonze song. It's in your inbox. Oh, just now? Yeah. Well, not just now, just before the show.

1:50:02 And that's a song you might want to play a bit of because it's an earworm because I was humming it before the show. And I think we maybe should give the audience a treat and play a little bit of Der Fuehrer's Face by Spike Jonze about 1942. Okay, just have to keep talking for a moment because you asked me... Oh, I can keep talking for a lot longer than that. And by the way, yeah, you want me to just keep talking? No, no, no, it's good because you asked me before the show if I had the bonus clip and I have the bonus clip. Which came in as bonus clip, but after that, apparently you did send me this little ditty, which is gonna play now. Pre-production would have helped, maybe. Well, let's get some lyrics going here.

1:50:56 Their Führer's face, Spike Jones. And hit it. When the Führer says, we is the master race, we hail, hail! Riding the Führer's face, not to love the Führer is a great disgrace, so we hail, hail! Riding the Führer's face, You won't hear this song anywhere but on your No Agenda show, I can tell you that. The reason I said it over is because you said a little thing before the show you mentioned that some kids are not liking the movie JoJo. Yeah, JoJo Rabbit is a problem because kids don't like

1:51:38 Anything that makes fun of the Holocaust. I've not seen the movie, so I don't know if it makes fun of the Holocaust. I've seen little snippets and it looks, you know, like a Monty Python sketch to me, really, you know, which I'm kind of used to that. But I guess we can't, you know, we can't have any fun anymore. Can't laugh. Hmm. I don't know that it makes fun of it. It just seems like a dumb movie. I don't understand why anyone would not want to see it for some political reason. That's ridiculous. That's not political reason. It's kind of a political Holocaust. It was political. Yeah, I think so now There's some commentary that can be made because I've got the bonus clip ready to go and this is they apparently They have dug up a mummy and then they computerized the vocal cords so we can hear what a mummy sounds like three thousand year old mummy

1:52:34 This is... Wait a minute, wait a minute, explain this. What is going on here? Apparently there was a mummy that they could dissect in such a way that they could get the vocal cords to either be modeled or actually maybe run some air through them, but they could actually have the mummy's voice recreated. Someone has too much time on their hands. Look into this, but there's the mummy's voice. This is a genuinely a 3000 year old person. This is what they sounded like. It's like one of those dog videos where the dog look my dog could talk. So how much did that cost? That little bit of research? Too much I'm sure. That's funny. Sounds like Hillary.

1:53:31 Oh man. That was the bonus clip. Yeah, yeah. I feel blessed. All right. Goldman Sachs running with the social justice warriors. This is actually a big opportunity for people in the No Agenda producers, really. If you want to make some good money and sitting on a board of a public company, you can, I think anybody, almost a no-no, as long as you have some credentials, you can make 15, 20 grand a year just for attending the meetings. And then you probably get some stock options.

1:54:09 Now, if you're more in the if you're on a committee like the compensation committee or other important things, you can get paid more just for being on the board. So I would like to recommend in this case, certainly any of our gay men should pay attention because there's money out there waiting for you. What you need to know is all pale, all male isn't cutting anymore, at least for Goldman Sachs. David Solomon issued this ultimatum in Davos, the biggest underwriter of IPOs in the US will no longer do business with a company lacking a director who is either a woman or diverse. So this comes after July and if a company wants Goldman, the board must have at least one person who is not white, male or straight. And next year the bank will raise the threshold to two diverse directors. Now Goldman said the decision came after it learned that more than 60%

1:54:58 the actually represents the high watermark for diversity, or is this just the beginning to bring greater representation to boardrooms and suite seats around global Wall Street around the world? In my lifetime, it is fantastic to see that now the token black, token gay, token woman is now required, and they're doing everything but calling it token.

1:55:44 Mind-boggling to me. Yeah, token. Isn't that exactly what it is? A token. One token. But they just won't say token. Well, no, but we will. You know what happens in these situations I can tell you in advance. But there are already plenty of black board members on big boards. Of course there are. I think IBM would have one. And that's the guy that they're going to tap to be on every board. The guy's going to make millions, one guy. Being a token can pay off. It can if you're on board after board after board after board. That's fantastic. So, yeah.

1:56:20 Yeah, I got one here. I like the pale male though. Yeah, pale male. Pale male. Pale male. Hail the pale male. Hail the pale male! People making songs from that. Let's go to Democracy Now and we had, and we'll do it back to politics a bit, talk about Bernie. Because this is, of all things on Democracy Now, this is kind of funny, Democracy Now has this woman who's, I don't know, she's Puerto Rican, I can't tell, she's on it every once in a while, she's dour. She could be kind of attractive, but very dour. When there's any celebrity on, she brightens up and she's got this big smile on her face and she bats her eyes and flirts with them. It's really embarrassing. So this, so Tim Robbins, the actor producer. Ah, well, wait, wasn't he at one point married to the other, the Bernie woman, the actress?

1:57:18 Sanders what's her name? Oh, I see me man. What do you know? Yeah, that's Elman Louise lady Yeah, what's her name? Yeah, if I chat room you can come over there now trolls you got a dress anyway rolls Otherwise, they don't listen Bernie. Yeah, so Susan's already Yeah, Susan Sarandon. He comes out for Bernie and makes kind of a fuss about it, but he makes some observations that we make on the show all the time. Of course, it's all futile, but I just thought it would be interesting to play this. But I wanted to ask about your recent endorsement of Bernie Sanders.

1:57:53 I don't know if a lot of people heard about it, although there was a massive rally in California, AOC was there, of course Bernie Sanders, Cornel West. How many people would you say were at this rally? I believe it was estimated about 25 to 30,000 on the beach in Venice. So this isn't so much about you as of course about him and the erasing of Bernie Sanders that the corporate media does. How many, was there huge risers with cameras? I mean, tens of thousands of people? There were cameras and someone has it on tape. I know you can find it on YouTube. Not getting much coverage. No, but that's par for the course. You know, the reason why I support Bernie is because despite all of this, he still

1:58:41 has immense numbers, he's leading in the polls, despite being erased or ignored. And I believe he is the only one of them that can defeat Trump. I truly believe that he is the best shot we have of getting rid of this guy. The centrist Democrats have run with a strategy for years to try to appeal to suburban housewives that might be conservative. If we get a few of those votes, we'll shift the focus and we'll be able to win the election. They may not be so conservative. Well, yeah, maybe not. But here's the thing. It didn't work for Gore, it didn't work for Kerry, it didn't work for Clinton. Clinton? Obama won because he ran to the left. He ran a progressive campaign. I don't know... Oh really? Hold on a second. That's the only reason Obama won? Really? That's what it was, Tim Robbins? To the left. He ran a progressive campaign.

1:59:42 I don't know why they believe this strategy will somehow change now. Now, if we run to the center, everything will be fine. The electorate is restless. They've rejected it in the past. And you see how strong their support for Bernie is. And so I believe he has the best shot. Now I agree he has the numbers. I don't know if he can keep the money flowing, but he has the numbers. He'll never get it of course. He's gonna get screwed. He's gonna get screwed again. I mean they're already trying really hard. I think they made a mistake. There's a lot of mistakes in this one, but the Barry Weiss Joe Rogan question kind of put Joe Rogan through the bowels of the machine for 24 hours. This is

2:00:30 This 45-second clip was taken verbatim and used on Twitter and other social media outlets and platforms to show Joe Rogan endorses Bernie Sanders, which is this is not by any means an endorsement, but here's exactly what the 45-second clip was. Who are you going to vote for in the primary? Think I'll probably vote for Bernie him as a human being when I was hanging out with him. Yeah, I believe in him I like him I like him a lot what Bernie stands for is a guy who? You could you could dig up dirt on every single human being that's ever existed if you catch them in their worst moment and you magnify those moments and you cut out everything else and you only display display those worst moments that said

2:01:21 You can't find very many with Bernie. He's been insanely consistent his entire life. He's basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that, in and of itself, is a very powerful structure to operate from. The last bit has me puzzled about Joe. Everything else is fine. He's a Bernie bro, so that's cool. Well, people lost their crap over that, particularly the Bernie people. I don't understand it. Because he's transphobic, don't you understand? He's homophobic, transphobic, white, straight, male, punches other men.

2:02:01 used to in the ring. He's everything wrong, everything wrong about the left. The left's response to that simple light-hearted endorsement is everything wrong with the left. It's not even an endorsement, he's just saying yeah. No it's not even an endorsement, he's gonna vote for him. But the point is that anyone would care that so much that they would Throw him under the bus for wanting to I mean don't they want anyone to vote for Bernie? I mean I saw it trending. I'm like let me take a look see what's going on, but it was all like he's a known transphobe like oh god and it all stems from Rogan at one point saying yeah, you can you can

2:02:47 Do whatever you want and you can call yourself a woman and you can go fight, but you can't fight chicks. I think that's literally what he said. And so now of course he's transphobe. And I mean look at the platform that Rogan has and they're gonna shun that? It's nuts. It's really nuts. I don't understand. What I also don't understand is Joe's reasoning, because by the same reasoning you can go look at Trump interviews from the 80s and he'll say he says exactly the same thing about China and immigration. Yeah, he's been very consistent. Very powerful platform from which to operate from. So he could easily be a Trump guy just as easy as he is a Bernie guy.

2:03:33 But this only criteria is consistency. But the overarching message for me once again is what Tim Robbins was saying. Yes, he was never married to Sarandon, but they lived together for a long time, boyfriend, girlfriend kind of deal. is that there were 45,000 people on a beach and you didn't see it on CNN, Fox or MSNBC. And I bet even during this interview, did they show video of it or just talk about it? They showed no video. B-roll? No B-roll? No. And even said somebody has video of it. No. No, you got to understand. Bernie is being ramrodded. He's not... It's just as maddening to me. Well, is it possible that Bernie is such a bad person

2:04:19 and a communist, let's say, that the agencies have actually walked into the editorial offices and the New York Times would lead the way on this. You're not doing that. You're not showing this. That's possible. And you go into the New York Times and say, you're not showing this, you're not talking about it, just, you know, you can put Bernie coverage in as, you know, as is normal. But we don't want this because you're putting the country at risk. If this guy becomes president, who knows what'll happen? We don't want to take a chance. And then they go into NBC, CBS and ABC and they do the same thing. And they say, look, you're not running these pictures of these big rallies with Bernie.

2:04:57 Because we saw him at the beginning of the 2016 campaign. They showed one or two of them. Briefly, yeah, one or two. That was about it. And then that was the end of it. They stopped showing him. Meanwhile, they said, you know, you want to do big rallies, you show Trump. So they showed Trump, gave Trump all this free publicity, but they never showed Bernie. And that to this day, they've never shown these big rallies. And maybe there is one on Google. I couldn't find it. And then he didn't even show up even a still photo on Democracy Now. So there you go. Thumbs up. Well, the something that's up is obvious, is that the media will not show it. Look, Fox News doesn't like Bernie, but neither do any of the left-leaning, liberalized, meteorologist budgets. They don't like it! And sadly, that is... I'm not sure they don't like it as much as they're told not to cover it and they do as they're told. Oh, good point. I mean, ultimately money talks and... And bullshit walks. Yeah.

2:05:56 It's like Bloomberg, you know, it's like he's just spending and spending and spending But the money's not gonna work for him. It doesn't matter what he spends. He'll never get the nomination Well, yes, which is his message a little bit because of the impeachment he has now gone into anti-trump mode for his advertising Oh, you know, that's interesting. Actually, let me open this up again. Oh I don't have a copy of one of these ads, but he starts off bitching about Trump and how he's got to be out. Yeah, no, I don't have that. What I do have is this, the neocons who I think are now aligned with the Democrat party, Bill Kristol.

2:06:39 He guessed totally. So he's got something funny, ha ha ha ha, that he's doing with a new group so he's back on the scene. Our boy Bill Crystal has showed up on Morning Joe with his latest commercial. Mike Pence doesn't brag about sexually assaulting women. Mike Pence doesn't pressure foreign governments into investigating his political rivals. Ukraine just started an investigation into the Biden. Mike Pence doesn't mock and make fun of people with handicaps. You gotta see this guy. I don't know what I said. Donald Trump is being impeached. It's time for President Pence. At least it's an improvement. That was a new ad from the group Defending Democracy Together and joining us now is the group's founder and director Bill Kristol. Bill, I'll start with you in the ad. What's the strategy there? I get so tired of people telling me that the election is going to be reversed and of course the president's own lawyers have been saying that.

2:07:36 And I really do think that half the people who watch Fox News and support the president think that if he's impeached and removed, that Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi will become president. And I thought it's worth, you know, let's just remind them that the president will be Mike Pence, a pretty conservative Republican. If you like Trump's judges, guess what? Mike Pence will appoint the exact same judges. If you like the deregulation, Mike Pence will deregulate industry just in the same way. He'll keep the cabinet, etc. I'm not a huge fan of Mike Pence, but I do think it was just worth reminding people of that and causing maybe a little trouble. Maybe President Trump will see that and get a little annoyed, a little worried that Pence is maneuvering behind the scenes to, you know, encourage people to replace him. So we have a little website, presidentpence.com, just to get that idea bouncing around out there. What a smug cock. Don't you think? It's like, what is the point of this?

2:08:28 And Jimmy Kimmel was all in, Jimmy Kimmel sh- I mean like, no one knew, no one saw this, you didn't see it. I only caught it by coincidence. This ad is not really running anywhere. The guy's not spending any money with his DDT group. It's just, I don't know what his game is, but he did somehow get it on Kimmel. Kimmel played it, came out of the clip with this. Mike Pence better hope Donald Trump doesn't see that commercial or Mike Pence is going to have Donald Trump's foot up his oval orifice. But I do love thinking about that. If some kind of miracle happens and these senators actually do the right thing for a change or move the president from office, which they won't, but if they did,

2:09:08 I wonder what that would look like. Like, would they actually have to remove him physically from his office? What if he won't leave? Will they drag him out and put all his stuff in, uh, to the left, to the left? And where would, when that was happening, where would Mike Pence be? Would he be hiding in like the back of a van outside waiting for the coast to clear? Would there be hair pulling? I mean, don't you want to remove him just to see that? Come on, everybody. So, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the point was. It's not that funny an ad. No, it's not funny an ad. And that Ben Kimball is just a Trump hater. He's got really off the deep end. Yeah. I mean, only Fallon is trying to stay a little bit neutral with this kind of lighthearted material. But Kimball's just hates Trump. And it's just it all began about a year and a half ago. It's something kids in cages, I think, is what it was.

2:10:06 Oh, he was crying. He was crying. He was crying. Yeah, he was crying. Kids in cages. Crying, man. Just crying about it all. So horrible. Kids in cages. What are we going to do with the kids in cages? I can't understand. It's just so bad. Part of a creepy ad that I put on this list here you might want to play. Creepy. Part just part part of a creepy yet. Okay, your data being sold is not the only problem It's also being used for other reasons worse reasons You're being profiled whether it be political persuasion or what the men in black suits want people of your type looking at Ultimate control role of our society censorship and manipulation

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2:11:48 Yeah, I know I put it aside for that reason because it sounds like an OTG element, but Go ahead go ahead Yeah, go ahead But, you were saying? I'm reminded every time I hear something like this, and it probably never shows up too much in the OTG segment, but I remember the late 70s and the 80s for sure, when all these, way before the internet, all these promises were, it was like a holy grail, any old timer out there remembers this.

2:12:26 Oh, guess, oh, one of these days they'll be able to customize your news. So when you get your news, it'll be customized to you. By the way, that was part of the RSS promise that you would be able to customize your own news feed, your own news flow. That was part of the promise. Yeah. So you get what you want. Not all this other crap. Not the fake news. You only get what you actually want. Yeah. Yeah, how'd that work out? And so they start doing it. This is another, this is one of the two kind of idiosyncratic complaints I have.

2:13:05 They start doing that automatically for you. They said, well, this is what you want. We figured it out because we got all the algos and we get your profile and this is what you want. So here it is. And now you're complaining. The other one. Yeah. The other. And that would include you. And the other one, the other one was another one from the 80s. I remember all these these basics. Oh, one of these days all the libraries in the world will be digitized, all the knowledge will be everywhere. And so nobody did that, so Google starts doing it just on their own. And then everyone started bitching again. And everyone's bitching and suing them. You can't do that! It's fantastic. I was listening, Scott Adams, for some odd reason, interviewed one of the investors of Clearview AI.

2:13:55 which is that the app that they've now, temporarily it's only available for law enforcement, where all you have to do is just have a picture, you throw it into the app and they've been scraping Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, you know, all the social media sites. And so pretty quickly they pop up who you are with links to post or tag pictures. Which, you know, and actually they came up with, I didn't pull any clips from it, but they did talk about some interesting uses such as identification of victims, of course. But, you know, they're really focusing on bad guys, just gonna get bad guys with this. And Scott Adams said something that I thought was very interesting.

2:14:39 Pretty much everybody with technology like this and this will be everyone the company wants to make it available to anybody I don't know if they're going to he says that would be the great equalizers Everybody had it and I'm sure this this concept can be replicated even an open source. It should be possible So this is going to exist and Scott Adams point was interesting He says, you know in the past 20 years, but certainly since he's been doing the show So what is a year and a half two years? He said, I've become recognizable and people know who I am, they know about me. A lot of them don't like me because I might have at one time said, oh you know the president's doing a good job. He says, so everybody will have this in the future. Everybody will be quote-unquote famous or

2:15:28 Have the same attributes we could say hey that who is that person you look him up and you know a lot about them immediately, you know political You know the socio-economic standing etc. And he said interestingly He said if I had to exchange being recognizable and famous for not being recognizable and famous He said no, I probably wouldn't says I kind of enjoyed it. There's a lot of benefits. However, he said If you asked me before I'd ever been famous, I probably wouldn't have wanted it. I thought that was an interesting take. And for me it brought up the following bastardization of the Soup Can Man. How about this? In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes. I think that's where we're going. That's cute. Thank you.

2:16:20 Two products to talk about for the OTG segment. Just some quick OTG kind of guy. There's an app that comes with an envelope And you put your smartphone in the envelope and it seals, so the only way to get it out is to rip and thus ruin this envelope. It's a square kind of cardboard box type. It's called an envelope, but it's more like, it's almost like a packaging box that a phone would come in when you first buy it. And there's two versions of it explained in this short clip, but really printed on one side of this envelope. package envelope are certain buttons you can use.

2:17:04 So the idea is you put your phone in the envelope and then it helps you with your digital detox. It comes with an app, of course. As a studio, we're really interested in exploring ways to find a balance with technology. When it comes to mobile phones, people find all sorts of strategies to limit and control their use. Some people buy a much simpler second phone and try to use it at weekends, and other people go to great lengths to hide their phones. We wanted to create a really simple, accessible way for people to experience a digital detox. So we made Envelope. All you need to do is seal your phone inside to transform it into a much simpler device. You can make and receive calls. You can speed dial a favourite number. And there's even a little clock to tell the time.

2:17:57 The idea is to try and last as long as possible before opening the envelope and getting your old phone back. The camera envelope removes all the functionality of your phone apart from the camera, so you can only take photos and videos too. But you have to wait until the end of the day before you can look at them. We hope you like these little concepts and can give them a try to find your balance with technology. Ehh, the envelope. I know, it's crap. The second product is called show and tell it is a feature of an existing Amazon echo product you know the Amazon echo now comes in a self-contained unit with a screen and the new technology the new features that has are being touted as great for

2:18:48 people who are blind. But you can just imagine the implications. The whole idea for Show & Tell came about from customer feedback, actually. Challenges around identifying things in their pantry. And we thought, yeah, we can do this. We can help here. I'm going to give you a product and then you're going to say... Alexa, what am I holding? Let's see. It looks like 365 everyday value. Macaroni. Great. That's awesome. I think that's garlic powder. Wow, that's impressive. It's critical for us that we're working with our customers, building with them, not just building for them. They really need our feedback to tell them what we need. You'll hear sounds to help you position your item. It looks like organic canned pineapple. Whoa, is that what it is? Oh my gosh. All these devices that are acting as your eyes

2:19:46 I think it's very revolutionary. For me, the less stress I have to put on somebody else is less stress on me. And it makes me feel good. Yes, Amazon Show and Tell. It's great for people who have vision issues, but kind of shows you where it's going, doesn't it? I think the idea for that particular product is dynamite. Of course. For sure. Obviously. Well, Amazon, you have to remember Amazon, if you had a Fire Phone, Which they still have this thing which we found out Bezos doesn't himself actually use no no because it won't hold enough naked pictures filters on it look how long it is anyway anyway Yeah, they had this they had this feature you put you point the phone at something you push a button And it would just look all over them this job. It still does that oh?

2:20:51 Yeah, well, well the fire phone you're right had multiple cameras. I remember that yeah, it has some system It was really fast you could go into tell you what the product was goes Then it would link right to Amazon's and we sell it for buck 99. Yeah, yeah, but which is the idea? But I think it's gonna go much further now. It just identifies stuff. You're wearing. You know anything. I'll start doing stuff. Yeah, I I'll tell you how it was last time you washed your shirt. It just doesn't feel good. Nothing about it feels good. No, all this stuff sucks. In fact, the internet stinks. I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.

2:21:42 That wasn't grouchy enough, I can get worse. But I want to thank a few people first, starting with Tracy Bossano in Madison, Alabama, 12345. If anonymous dog wants to help me, I am grateful. So she's on the list. It's unonymous from Dogpatch. It's not an anonymous dog. Now, you might as well get it right if you're going for the promotion. City bus driver in Eugene, Oregon, $100. Christopher Remmer, 88, parts unknown. Carolyn Blaney in Aurora, Ontario. Isn't that one of the hogwash, hog stories, Carolyn? Yes, I think it is.

2:22:28 Maybe she got the newsletter that would run it before this latest one with all the horrible children's books in there She thought it was free end of show We have a reading by sir Felix Wilson of the no agenda book as you requested John my first gun my first gun a Elias Kekesh in Tallahassee, Georgia He needs a de-douching. Elias, Elias, Elias, Elias, Elias. It is Elias. 8008 for him. Adriana Velenueva in Blue Spring, Maryland, 7777. And she needs a de-douching. Brian Burgess, 6933 from Pelican Rapids, Minnesota.

2:23:21 John Kramer in Haarlem, Netherlands, $69. Gary Blatt, 66.60, keep up the good work. Spencer Pearson in Kansas City, Missouri, 66. Ah. No, it's in the Meetup 816 collection. This is actually the, so this would be the 816 Locals donation. Yeah. Okay, nice. Thank you very much. John Tierney, 56.78. By the way, don't we have a make good with somebody who sent a note in? Yes, the one that you said you would take care of. Yes. Do you have that note? Oh God, you said... Keep going, I'll look it up, but I will point out that you specifically said you would take care of it. You can point out my foibles, that's not a problem. I know, but now I'm hustling trying to figure it out. Okay. But wait a minute, I may actually have done something. Let's see if I printed it.

2:24:19 I should have. That's the problem. I had good intentions. I know you have good intentions. Is this? No, this is I got one from Sir Road Wolf. Oh, this is a good note, but this is something else. I'll read that afterwards. Onward with tyranny 5678. Jim Buell in Spring Hill, Texas, 5333. Dan Doering in Eolia, Missouri 50-50 and the following people are $50 donors. A short list again. Gerald Van Den Brink in East Ulster, Utrecht, Netherlands. Utrecht. Utrecht. There's no L in Utrecht. Utrecht.

2:25:09 I finally received knighthood celebrating it with an extra donation of 50 bucks. It got the accounting in. I'm a long time listener. Recently, I found through no agenda the TPO podcast in Holland for, as we should say these days, the Netherlands. I am a loyal listener since day one during commutes, mountain biking and traveling in the far east. In January, I came across back from China with a nice and deep something, my healthy cough. Cough oh well listening to no agenda drinking too much Corona beer always lovely here John slaughtering Dutch names and Adam using the Dutch accent What are you talking about? Thank you for keeping once you read the rest of this that with that accent

2:25:57 Okay, one moment. I was looking for the email you lost, you know. Thank you. Yes. Thanks you for keeping my amygdala small and my mind healthy. I would love to have beer and bitterballen at the round table. You got it. Some goat karma and the jingle, nothing to see here. Look over there, which has been my ringtone for many, many years. It's great. Over all these years listening to No Agenda I'm noticing people are more and more waking up with a healthier worldview resulting also in the Netherlands as podcasts like Café Weltschmerz, TPO podcast, Jensen and the upcoming of Think Tank and Political Party Forum for Democracy. Thank you for all the work you do, the insights you give and the joy and laughter. My future night name will be Sodoris Knight of the Wild Boar Mountains in the Lowlands.

2:26:45 Now, the reason I requested you do that is because I think when you do accents that are so complete like that, they do need to be exercised and you have not done that one for months. Thank you. And so what does he need? Beer and bitterballen. I shall put that at the round table. And what else do we have to do? I'm sure there was other stuff. That's about it. That needed to be done. Onward on the list, Colin, Colleen, I'm sorry, Colleen Garrett in Cary, North Carolina, $50. Matthew Ching, $50. Elwa, Elwa, Elwa Leibel, Leibel, Leibel, Elwa Leibel in Newark, Delaware.

2:27:28 Noah Davis in West Lafayette, Indiana, $50. And Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough, Oregon, also 50 bucks along with Jesus Allen in Austin, Texas. Julian Robbins in Aptos, California and Will West in Peoria, Arizona. Oh, whoop, we got a more Colin Villanueva. Another Villanueva, if it's not the same one in Blue Springs, Maryland. Joe Winky in Santa Rosa Joe Yeah, Joe. Joe Jimbo. Joe Jimbo. Joe Jimbo Joe our guy and he that's concludes our group of producers for show 1211 and we hope to get another big group in on for 1212 1212 is the next one. That's a kind of a famous

2:28:18 A couple of numbers are 12-12, so we'll look forward to promoting that. Okay, let's look at what we messed up here. So one is David Russell. He was miffed that he made a donation and then somehow he was missed on the birthday list, so he's on the birthday list for today. And it was Herb Lamb. Who yes her blam and Earl of Georgia? Yes, and here's what he said He was hoping for some f-cancer karma, which had put in the PayPal note perhaps it did by the way I found something I discovered something if you donate to the show on a mobile device PayPal interestingly has the note at the top of the page and

2:28:57 I think that's what confuses a lot of people because you know you kind of work from the top down. Here I am, I'm sending the money to this, here's the amount and then you'd expect it to be a note but it's not. You have to scroll back up. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Oh really? Yes. I'm surprised nobody's complained about that publicly. Because I was making a donation for some software I've been using and like what the... because I want to put a note like hey I support... Oh you were okay you've discovered it. Yeah. So Herb, I'm gonna give Herb the... who was it for though? Monday my uncle who is much old, who is not much older than I am has stage 4 cancer in his lungs and brain. We are still waiting on a final prognosis but it's not good. I figured that karma couldn't hurt. Of course and here comes... You've got karma.

2:29:52 And apologies, Sir Herb. Apologies for that. But thank you to everybody who supported the show today. These people over $50 and of course reminiscing again about the great list of associate executive producers and executive producers. It all makes a big difference and in particular when you look at people coming under 50 these are the ongoing sustaining programs that you can join. There's always a couple people at $49.99 who just want to make sure they are anonymous because we don't read anything over $50, but then you see the $33.33s under. We have the 2017's, 20.17, 20.18, 20.19 all started probably on the January of that year. So fantastic to see those still going. And 12.12's and there's another, not that many 12.12's we could probably do. That was a short-term thing we tried.

2:30:45 But all of that is just so appreciated and it's the way the Value for Value system works. It's still working for us and it's working for you because after all, you are the ones creating this show. It is your podcast and we all know by now it is the best podcast in the universe. An emergency karma request from Sir Fudge Fountain, Baron of Ann Arbor, Michigan, kilo eight, tango India Yankee, 73, some K5 ACC. I don't like to whip out my peerage and waggle it around too often. It's so long. But gotta make an exception and petition for health karma for my mom She is there's talk of a potential blood clot in the lung leading to her recent difficulty breathing We find that pretty worrying if you get a chance to swing your beam towards Florida and direct a few watts of karma in that direction my family and I would be very What the hell was that no no no now we have to throw a goat in to fix it you've got

2:31:47 Karma. And for anyone who wants to participate in this great value for value network, all you have to do is get ready to come up with a number and visit this website. Dvorak.org slash N-A. And for those who need it, a Jobs Karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma We're getting close to the end of the month. It's the 26th of January 2020. Here's our birthday list with a belated happy birthday to David Russell who turned 50 on January 18th. Joe Carlson celebrates today actually. Dame Jennifer's happy birthday to her husband Gary. He is celebrating today. Brian Furl, 33 on the 29th. And Chris Grimald says happy birthday to his son Steeler Grimald, 24 years old on the 24th.

2:32:48 Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Now, hold on a second. I'm just looking at this. Did we read the note from Dame Jennifer for her husband Gary? Did we read that? Because I completely... I don't believe we did. Because she is giving him... Do you see her on the list somewhere? She's got to be on the list. I may have come in sideways on the email. Let me see if I can find it. So she made a donation and I know that she is upgrading her title to Baronetess, but I believe she deferred or has upped the numbers for her husband Gary who becomes a knight today. So I want to make sure that... I'm sure she had a note because I know I forwarded it. I just don't see it anywhere.

2:33:46 On the list is this because of my just blind let's see make sure we do well here's the note. I just got a good squirrel mail so as I click on it pops right up. I mentioned a couple weeks ago Eric help is by donation accounting and recently passed 3k. Rather than upgrade myself to Baroness, I would like to upgrade to just Baronetess and gift the knighthood to my husband for his birthday, which is tomorrow. We just enlisted him. And a show to LGY. I would like to be Baroness Jennifer of the possible exit strategy.

2:34:29 Dame Jennifer, soon to be Baronetess, is the entire brains and art director behind the animated No Agenda, and that is seen as a possible exit strategy. I think the title is appropriate. A propos. She obviously has a heck of a sense of humor because her stuff is quite funny. The government grants might be the most lucrative, but I think animations would be more fun. For Gary's knighting, since it's a surprise, how about Sir Gary, patient husband and supporter of Animated No Agenda? Sorry, I know it's long for now. He can give Eric something different for a certificate if he wants. He's a bourbon lover, so he's already covered for the roundtable request. Dame Jennifer soon to be bearing the test. That's her note. All right. Beautiful. Why don't why don't we do it right now? Let's get to let's get the swords out here. If you got some bladeage.

2:35:24 I got my blade right here. Nice blade. It's so long. Up on the podium, Gary Buchanan, Anonymous, Gerard van de Brink, and Brett Samuel. Bunch of dudes. Gentlemen, thank you very much for your support of the No Agenda Show, your podcast, the amount of $1,000 or more. And I'm very proud to pronounce the K-thief, Sir Gary, patient husband and supporter of Animated No Agenda, Sir Scott Man of Norristown, Sir Doris, knight of the wild boar mountains in the lowlands, and Sir Bret Knight of the Dark Fate, gentlemen, for you we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, we've got beer and bitter bolla, Dr. Pepper and a quick handy, cold brew coffee and cannabis, Rubenesque women and rosé, gin trail and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, and of course, of course there's always mutton and mead.

2:36:12 All of you should head over to no agenda nation comm slash rings and we'll get those out to you soon as possible Just fill in some of the the paperwork. There's always paperwork with peerages the way it's always happened And thank you very much for supporting your no agenda show the best podcast in the universe No douchebags here Dame Jennifer as you just heard upgrades her title to Baroness Jennifer of the possible exit strategy Another valuable member of the value for value network and the no agenda family. Thank you Dame Jennifer for everything you do and Possibly getting out of this shit. Well, we'll never get out of the show because we have to do the show for the exit strategy But we'd be rich

2:36:57 I think that's the idea is not the idea if we if we have a show on Netflix. We're golden. We're in we're home That's that we can we can retire well, maybe even get a bidding war with Apple Apple TV I mean anything could happen these things mentioning that before you go on yes I did start watching The Morning Show I was with Jennifer Aniston. This is probably her best acting job ever I agree and I think it's really an interesting show because it's so inside baseball. It may not be appealing to everybody, but I really thought it was a very good, well-done show. It's like someone with a grudge really put something nice together with a big budget. Big budget. Big budget. It's a good show. I agree. And seeing as she won at the Golden Globes,

2:36:12 All of you should head over to no agenda nation comm slash rings and we'll get those out to you soon as possible Just fill in some of the the paperwork. There's always paperwork with peerages the way it's always happened And thank you very much for supporting your no agenda show the best podcast in the universe No douchebags here Dame Jennifer as you just heard upgrades her title to Baroness Jennifer of the possible exit strategy Another valuable member of the value for value network and the no agenda family. Thank you Dame Jennifer for everything you do and Possibly getting out of this shit. Well, we'll never get out of the show because we have to do the show for the exit strategy But we'd be rich

2:36:57 I think that's the idea is not the idea if we if we have a show on Netflix. We're golden. We're in we're home That's that we can we can retire well, maybe even get a bidding war with Apple Apple TV I mean anything could happen these things mentioning that before you go on yes I did start watching The Morning Show I was with Jennifer Aniston. This is probably her best acting job ever I agree and I think it's really an interesting show because it's so inside baseball. It may not be appealing to everybody, but I really thought it was a very good, well-done show. It's like someone with a grudge really put something nice together with a big budget. Big budget. Big budget. It's a good show. I agree. And seeing as she won at the Golden Globes,

2:37:49 And Brad Pitt, of course, won at the Golden Globes. And we've seen the pictures. I can tell you, if Brad and Jennifer get back together, then all our problems will be solved. That's, I think, when they split up, that's when America started to divide into two dimensions. I think they are ground zero of the dimensional split in the United States. There you go. I'm just hopeful. No one should know meetups. Yeah baby! It's like a party! It's like a party! And we got lots of party going on. In fact, meetups today at the Daytona International Speedway, Sir Raptor, this evening the Rolex 24 meetup.

2:38:31 Also in Philadelphia, the Philly Local 76. It's the first one that will be in Southeast PA at the Philadelphia Brewing Company. Sir Scatman, now a knight as you just heard of Norristown, will be hosting for you. And Alexandria, Virginia, which should be underway. They started it at noon. It's a trademark drink and eat. Sir William of West Pensylvania hosting. Let me just tell you what's coming up this week. Friday the Colorado Springs 719, local 719 at Phantom Canyon Brewing upstairs. M. Andrew Jones hosting that for you. Also on Friday the local MCO Central Florida meetup number four at 630. That's the Stanford Brewing Company. Brandon E. organizing that for you and I might as well

2:39:16 tell you uh well we'll leave it at that. I'll do the sat next Saturday, Charleston, South Carolina, the six-week cycle at one o'clock. Dame Jennifer Buchanan hosting that, the animated No Agenda, Baronetess. Also next Saturday, the Boston No Agenda meetup, that's Red 33, Red 33, and that will be at the oh my goodness the Castle Island Brewery in Nord, Massachusetts And finally for next Saturday, Southwest Ontario, Candianavian Meetup at 6 o'clock. Enjoy a burger, rebellion and beer from Refined Fool, Trevor Collette organizing. Find all of this at noagendameetups.com. We have some meetup reports. The first one comes to us from the 816 local. Hey, this is Sir Spencer Wolf of Kansas City. We're here at the Rhino in North KC for the first 816 edition of No Agenda Meetups.

2:40:11 I'm passing it around. We're all gonna say hello Hey, Dame DeLorean here. Hey, No Agenda Nation. What's up? Hello from Kansas and Missouri. Hi, I'm from KCMO. I'm no longer a douchebag. Caleb Brinkman from Springfield, Missouri. Circumspect from Oak Grove. Colin Villanueva from Blue Springs. In the morning, Adriana from Blue Springs. No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe. There you go. In the morning. Thank you all for your courage.

2:40:47 Alright, then we have, let me see, where's this next one? This was the Austin local 512 meetup sent to us by, I think it was Sergeant Fred who sent this. Oops, this one here. We're recording right now. Here we are at the meetup which is called... The Flight of the No Agenda. Flight of the No Agenda here at, right next to Los Angeles International Airport. I'm sorry, that was not the one I was thinking of. Holy crap, what? I thought this was... No, that is Fred, I guess. I don't know what the hell this is. This is... Oh, that's the meetup in LA on the 18th. And I guess I'm... I messed that up. I'm sorry. I have to work on organizing this better.

2:41:33 But I do have the New England meetup from the 25th. My name is Mike, I'm a millennial and I'm part- I'm Jeff, I'm a member of the original OTG family. I'm here with my wife Emily and my daughter Runa. Thank you for your courage in keeping our amygdala's clean. I got de-douche tonight. Hey what's going on? It's Brandon. Thank you for your courage once again. The only black person here. Step up. Chip in. Hey from a dude named Jeff in the morning. Hey, it's Will. What do you call a group of podcasters? A curry. Hey, not Jake from the Quiet Corner, ITM Adam and John. Hey, Robert Case here, ITM. I made it to the New England meetup. Yo-ho, it's like a party. Hey, Craig, ITM from Massachusetts. Amy from Worcester, Massachusetts. In the morning, this is Chris from New England. Lady Butters from Narragansett Bay drinking an IPA and now it's a par-tay.

2:42:27 We're doing a meetup report. Um, shit. I don't know what to say either. We're drinking great beer, talking about great people who host an awesome podcast that we couldn't live without. Thank you! Yeah, what she said. That was my wife, so yes, good. This is Surgeon making the recording! Watcher of the Stargate Protector of Fish. Hello, it's Sir Knives here and I just wanted to say ITM and thank you for your courage gentlemen and I may be better recognized as Sir Knives but we're all here having a great time. Sir Nesto, have a good time and New England meetup. Thank you for your courage. Thank you Sir Nesto for organizing in the morning. Outstanding reports all thank you so much and finally a written one from Tim.

2:43:18 who hosted the Oregon Local 33 meetup the other night. Four slaves present, he says, three producers, a small turnout, yet a great time was had by all. The low turnout raised some concern. There might be some confusion over the venue. I guess there is a Bar 33 Brooklyn where we met and a place across town named Bar 33. We'll see if you hear a different meetup report. We had a brief round of another no agenda game this one based on the game tell us trations only with na themed items It's challenging even when I was the one creating the word list and a nice picture of Of the producers there. Thank you all no agenda meetups calm if you can't find one that's happening near you for God's sakes man Set one up get it going already. No agenda meetups calm

2:44:08 We went long today, but I do have an important one. This, I think, is pretty important. You know, we've been tracking the war on cash, geez, almost since the beginning of the show. Would you say is that fair? Is it fair to say? In fact, we have a jingle for it. Yeah, of course. And the jingle, let me see how old this thing is. You better have your stash, because there's a war on cash. At least 2013, so it's been tracking it for a while. We're big proponents of cash. Cash is becoming a problem. There are stores everywhere that, certainly in the Netherlands, in Amsterdam, you know, sorry, no cash, no cash at all.

2:45:01 What's really good about this, what's just funny is we're now in one of those situations where social justice is frying everybody's brain. Because yeah, we all want to hurry up and just touch and go and we don't want to have this nasty pesky old cash. It's stinky and why would you want it? Okay, boomer, have some cash! But there's a little problem. Whether you swipe, insert or tap, it's become part of the consumer culture in New York City. The goal? To keep you moving. And it's the reason why some businesses like Sweetgreen have completely gone cashless.

2:45:40 But now it will be against the law as the Big Apple becomes the latest city to ban businesses from not accepting cash. Cash is the great equalizer. It is the universal currency. The legislation, which was sponsored by Bronx Councilman Richie Torres, will penalize brick and mortar businesses who don't accept cash with fines of up to $1,500. Supporters of the legislation, overwhelmingly passed by the City Council Thursday, say the cashless business model discriminates against the poor, homeless people and undocumented immigrants, as they are more likely to be disconnected from the financial system. A ban on cashless business is a protection of privacy, it is a protection of equity, but above all it's a protection of consumer choice.

2:46:25 The ban comes as many businesses move toward the so-called tap and pay model like the cashierless Amazon Go which now has four locations in the Big Apple where customers only have to use an app to make purchases. After getting much pushback, Amazon announced last year it will accept cash at select locations. We have to ensure that our increasingly digital economy in no way leaves New Yorkers behind. Now the mayor is expected to sign this legislation into law in about a month, making it official and the legislation itself will go into effect by the end of the year. Gotta love it!

2:47:04 They just can't do it. Their brain is free. You can't have a cashless society because it's unfair to poor people, but particularly homeless people. Yes, we had a couple. We talked about this in the show before. There's a place, a couple of places in Berkeley that are cashless and they're kind of... They should be shamed. They should be shamed. And they were, yeah. It was Jay that said, oh yeah, they're cashless because they don't want any homeless coming in there and buying a cupcake and then using the bathroom. I think that the homeless should just poop in front of the place, right in the doorway. Anyway, yeah, this is a good development. Amazon can get around their little problem because all you have to do, and I think New York has an exception for this, is if you make Amazon Prime members, because you have to be a member of Amazon or something when you go into one of these walk-in and walk-out stores without paying anything, you just make it a private club.

2:48:03 Yeah, I'm thinking there's you know people will have to have cash and there's got to be some kind of wallet that you can you know like a Phone case that has when their grid goes down. What are you gonna? Do no listen to what I'm saying this I'm talking exit strategy one of these one of these stupid phone cases that has a special wallet for cash Not for cards, but for cash You know, and you can dispense it, and you just kind of like swipe the bottom of your phone, and the money... So you put it around your belt and you can click on it and coins come out. Hey man, it's a show day and there's some sad news that just came out. Yeah? Kobe Bryant is dead. What? Dies in helicopter crash.

2:48:49 Well, that's terrible Kobe was traveling with at least three other people in his private helicopter when it went down a fire broke out emergency personnel responded But nobody on board survived five people confirmed dead Vanessa Bryant was not among those on board. That is what a day wrecker man. Holy crap Yeah, Kobe was peaking too. He's like doing business deals getting a lot of TV work So this is too bad. This will change the reporting. I Would say if you want some ratings you got it. You got a hammer the Kobe story a lot. I think that will That'll liven things up that may solve Corona look at a couple of days of that yeah at least two days That's what that sucks man. That's that's a shitty way to go. Yeah, I'd say chopper death yeah, well I have I have some stuff left over for the next for an ex upcoming show I can I

2:49:45 I could probably get a couple things out of the way. Maybe let's get this out of the way. Okay. Because since you brought up Kobe's death, let's bring up Jim Lehrer's death. Oh, yes. Newsman extraordinaire. Newsman extraordinaire. And he also was the one who pretty much mentored Gwen Ifill. A lot of people, not just Gwen, but tons of people, I would say. Yeah, I'm saying specifically for that show, because what you're going to hear is like you'll hear nothing. But well, they don't do that anymore. Well, they don't do that anymore. They don't do that anymore because the current people running the news hour are just they're just not cutting it. And as far as I'm concerned, in terms of being objective, I mean, everybody I mean, when you can have Al Gore, we should have that clips around, but I'd

2:50:30 dig it up, Al Gore telling Judy never to mention that there's people that are still skeptical about climate and her obediently obeying. It's pretty pathetic. But let's hear this, because this is Jim's rules for, and this is rules for journalism he throws in at this little, in this ditty here. Told those of us privileged to work with him, it's not about us. But night after night, Jim showed by example that being yourself, journalist, writer, family man, citizen, can be a high calling indeed.

2:51:07 For 36 years as an anchor of the NewsHour, Jim reported the news. People often ask me if there are guidelines in our practice of what I like to call McNeill-Lehrer journalism. Well, yes, there are. He did it with a clear sense of purpose, even as the world of media changed around him. Do nothing I cannot defend. Cover, write and present every story with the care I would want if the story were about me. Assume there is at least one other side or version to every story. Assume the viewer is as smart and as caring and as good a person as I am. Assume the same about all people on whom I report. Assume personal lives are a private matter until a legitimate turn in the story absolutely mandates otherwise.

2:51:57 Carefully separate opinion and analysis from straight news stories and clearly label everything. Do not use anonymous sources or blind quotes except on rare and monumental occasions. No one should ever be allowed to attack another anonymously. And finally, I am not in the entertainment business. He's rolling over in his grave, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, with the New York Times leading the way with anonymous bullcrap. Exactly. All right. Well, you want to call it a day? I think it's time, yeah. Okay. I definitely have stuff for Thursday. More on the OPCW, some more Epstein stuff. Yeah, good.

2:52:51 At least some people wanting for something. I mean we did a long show today, and we do have end of show clips. Let's see we've got Sean Cardinal, Leo Lapuque, and we also have Sir Felix Wilson. And coming up on NoAgendaStream.com, grumpy old Ben's number 47, the health scare. That's at NoAgendaStream.com. And I am coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. It is in FEMA Region Number 6, in case you're looking for it on the governmental maps. And my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where things seem very normal and there's no corona yet, I'm John C. Dvorak.

2:53:36 We return on Thursday. Please remember us at thevorac.org slash NA. It really matters that you help with our value for value network and keep the show going. Keep your eye on the newsletter everybody and until next time, adios mofos and such. Gitmo Nation Publications present My First Gun, read by Sir Felix Wilson. My first gun.

2:54:24 My first gun is not a toy. My first gun is for girls and boys. We're all born equal we all say. My first gun helps keep it that way. My first gun is for target fun. My first gun is for when bad guys come. My first gun I always check the chamber because if it's loaded there is danger. My finger's off the trigger and the safety's on, so I don't accidentally shoot someone. I check my target and what's behind, before I take aim with my chamber prime. Only at my target I point my muzzle, to avoid accidents and misfire trouble.

2:55:02 With an empty chamber and magazine, I keep my first gun all shiny and clean. I'll get closer inch by inch when I'm relaxed and do not flinch. If my aim is true and my spread is lean, my next gun will be an AR-15. Apocalypse alert! Today, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moves the hands of the Doomsday Clock. It is 100 seconds to midnight. The bearers of unbearable news. Time is almost up until the world is doomed. The hand of this fateful clock. has been placed at various positions since its inception more than 70 years ago. But in 2018, it was set at two minutes to midnight, the closest since 1953. Now the Nobel laureate-studded panel has moved it 100 seconds before a climate catastrophe. Absolutely terrifying.

2:55:59 This is the closest to midnight the clock has ever been in the history of ever. TikTok, TikTok. It's a doomsday clock. It's a doomsday clock. We're on a countdown. TikTok, TikTok. Hide behind children. You can use children as puppets. How dare you! I don't want you to listen to me. What's Bloomberg's net worth? His net worth? His personal worth? How many billions is he worth? I think he's up in the 20 billion range. 50 plus. He can spend billions on this campaign and it's peanuts to him. Anything he wants. Anything he wants. Is that it impresses people? I have no idea. Bloomberg's...

2:57:01 But I'm not running as president to do small things, but to do big things. He's full of crap, this guy. The challenge of African-American wealth creation today. Africa. Africa? I just heard that. He's stumbling left and right here. Bloomberg. for hundreds years Americans systematically stole black I like how you kind of pass through that pretty quickly does that impresses people I have no idea Bloomberg's yeah I think he's gonna fail on this

2:57:43 Okay, so what do you think? Joe Biden? Whatever. Howard K. Smith, 1978 ABC News, warning us about the coming Ice Age. There's a theory advanced by climatologists that some ice age is returning to the Earth, with glaciers down to the Mason-Nixon line. The evidence produced by Professor Reed Bryson of the University of Wisconsin, our leading scholar. He's Mr. White Christmas, he's Mr. Snow White. Professor Reed Bryson. He's Mr. White. Professor Reed Bryson. He cites the rhythm of a hundred thousand years of ice age interrupted briefly by a mere ten thousand years of warmth. And our ten thousand years of warmth has now passed. Who believes in global warming? Raise your hand. Nobody?

2:58:41 My good brother My good brother The US Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii. A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. This is not a drill. If you are indoors, stay indoors. If you are outdoors, seek immediate shelter in a building. Remain indoors well away from windows. If you are driving, pull safely to the side of the road and seek shelter in a building or lay on the floor. We will announce when the threat has ended.

2:59:24 This is not a drill. Take immediate action measures. The US Pacific Command has detected a missile threat to Hawaii. A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. The sky is very bright, all lit up, very... The best podcast in the universe! I think that sounds pretty good.