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00:00 It's gonna be World War 3! Dream Team and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where everyone is saying and thinking the same thing Go Niners John C. DeVore, only guy I know who chokes on his own name John C. DeVore you want to do it over are you happy with your performance? I did choke on my own name that must have been a glitch in the Skype Oh okay yeah must have been it well sorry there you go yes so do we have the final teams for the Super Bowl finally

00:54 Answer me! Do we? No, we don't. Oh. We have two games today the championships of the two conferences and those winners go to the Super Bowl in a couple weeks Okay so who are the possible choices just so I can call it now and be done with it? Well you have the San Francisco 49ers And they're playing, I don't know who they're playing because there's really not a team that can beat them. Let me think... Well they are playing somebody and then you have the Kansas City Chiefs playing the Tennessee Titans. Okay? Oh no, the Niners! That's right, looking at the chat room The Niners are playing the team from Green Bay Go Packers

01:49 Okay, so you didn't give me any information? Okay. You got the Green Bay Packers and San Francisco 49ers the Kansas City Chiefs in the Tennessee Titans Those are the four teams okay the Titan's for the win they take it all why Why question these things I am from the future Normally that some political economic reason that you make these selections just no now No, no, I'm just guessing now once we get to the final two We can do the political economic reasons this is just a gut feeling Okay, well they'll be lucky to get past Kansas City but you never know. They're kind of a surprise team to the lowest seeded of the whole foursome. It's time for an underdog. And that's a miracle they got as far as they have. Underdog, underdog time. I would like to welcome the brand new listeners from New York City to The No Agenda Family. Look at what we've got! We've got an affiliate in New York now? Finally? WAPC?! There was an important dinner last night here in Austin

02:53 Ah, yes. This was the former New York banker it was his wife's birthday and they celebrated this in the brand-new hotel in Austin The Proper which I believe several of the attendees had invested in so this was like the investors have a dinner at the hotel that's brand new can you imagine what that was like? Sounds like a lot of cigars and booze. No, but the New York former banker and his wife they are

03:29 They're kind of like the welcoming committee to New York and anyone who moves from New York to Austin, they're always told you gotta hook up with those guys. And I will say they connect everybody so there may be eight couples there last night all of them between 40 and 50 all very successful everyone's still working no one retired women too, no trophy wives and all MSNBC viewers. So this was very entertaining! I didn't see that coming... Ah yes, yes, yes, so however i have kind of good news what I've noticed is that these obviously very busy people and you know they're just active in their businesses they clearly use MSNBC as a guide through the morass of news

04:26 Once I was kind of able to hit him in the mouth a bit, they were all extremely surprised with the information I had and very open to it actually. There was no... That's unusual! Yes and i don't know if this is a trend? Yeah I think it may be because people are so tired of years and years of this bullcrap in the media And so The Keeper was on the other side you know with of course strategic placements We weren't sitting together and she was across the table. And at a certain point, someone next to her gentleman said that yeah I think Adam Schiff is a really good upstanding politician. That was the funniest line of the night

05:08 And of course the keeper was like, really? What?! But everybody was open to alternative information and once they figured out that I was the podfather. Oh okay well now everyone had to tell me what their favorite shows were which are pretty much universally the Daily, which is the New York Times daily. I understand that a lot of MSNBC... We should just rename it The Galey. A lot of MSNBC... John really? I'm trying to make friends here! Go. And so next to me is young woman from New York and she's only been in Austin a short amount of time

05:54 Huge Howard Stern fan say oh, this is an opportunity for me now it now I may be able to you know Get a listener here. So well yeah, I was I've been in New York lived in New York from no listeners 15 years I love stern I said Be no ever since he got the serious. He has changed a little bit, and I think the new wife Beth I think has turned him a little soft. They said yeah Yeah, but yet did you hear the interview between Howard and Hillary Clinton? I said well of course I did that's prime material for our show she says how fantastic as yes It was really fantastic And I said you know She's gonna run That was the best thing I could have said all night

06:36 What? No. You say, yeah absolutely! It's all in the cards it's all set up we've been predicting it just like we predicted the Pope anyway John I think we have a lot of new listeners who would be very very surprised to hear... Zero! No don't say zero It was a really good evening. And again, I have to say, I love the openness and it's... To me it just proved that people just listen you know? Oh one gentleman was like Rachel Maddow you cannot she's so good at the facts! I'm like no not really. That is what I said non-zero nobody coming over here. I wouldn't say that anyway. You're bad. I'm positive man What?

07:27 Optimist, you're an optimist. I'm a big optimist exactly that was nice well i figured you know they maybe maybe they'll learn something if they catch one show and we'll see him at the next dinner at the next birthday dinner will do it all over again have they all moved to New York these folk? Yeah no they've all moved from New York to Austin yeah yep from new york from Manhattan some in finance some health care Some other... Do they run a witness protection program on Austin? Actually, I think it may be a form of that. It's not you know it's very plausible like hey man if it's getting a little hot and in the city move on over to Austin we'll take care of ya no worries Wow No worries yeah now these people are still afraid of guns haven't seen enough of them yet so that's very there some fear there

08:18 Understandable if you're coming from New York. I'll talk to you next year, get used to it Yeah well hmm what else did you learn? You must have learned some couple of things going on that were besides the politics of the New York bankers all being into MSNBC and probably all Trump haters No i don't think... Well this is what the big thing that I learned The takeaway was I think they're just tired of if they were Trump haters, none of it showed. There was actually not a single... no one said anything that i heard the whole evening about Orange Man bad or any of that

08:56 Truly just like, I mean if i had actually asked... Hold on stop. I don't want to interrupt your flow but is it possible that what you were witnessing as a bunch of very satisfied folks that weren't going to be bashing on Trump because they know he's done? He's gone! No no in fact I don't think so because one of the guys an architect and you know he's building out in East Austin and I said well that's great because you got the opportunity zone. Oh yeah, that's fantastic! That's the best thing we got this great tax break. He said oh you mean the Trump tax break?

09:32 What? Yeah, so it's the opportunity zones. Who do you think did that?" Now I don't think...I don't think that the...it felt to me like everyone is just tired of it they'll watch Rachel maybe they will watch Morning Joe there are some definite Morning Joe viewers. Oh brother! Oh yeah, Mika Brzezinski is great but she was better when her dad was alive and then made more sense to make fun over But no one pushed back. I have a good feeling about it, it means that people have just been beaten down and now their minds are kind of open for change or different ideas and I'm not trying to change anyone from their political persuasions but just maybe a little less on the derangement side you know? It's like let's just chill down, it's not all nuts

10:22 Which is what I consistently explain, that's what we do. We try to keep you healthy not feeling good listen tomorrow is what I said so expect them all to be here. Okay and Australia You got a note, couple notes? Yeah I have several notes. Actually let me...I have a little clip to play and that will get us started A major storm system has brought valuable rain to drought affected parts of Australia's east but it also caused flash flooding on major roads. A clean up is now underway in many areas as the heavy rain moves onto the north south Wales mid-north coast.

11:06 It's hard not to smile seeing the happiness on this farmers face. Heavy rain drenching drought-stricken parts of the country's east, also helping to dampen fire zones. The downpours being celebrated in our regional centers but it has created some chaos in the cities In southeast Queensland severe storms triggered widespread flash flooding 330mm of rain has been recorded at Loda Creek on the Gold Coast where the SES has responded to more than 100 calls for assistance The deluge so great it closed not only the Pacific Motorway for six hours, but also theme parks Wet and Wild and Movie World shut for the day as the water levels rose. Zookeepers using brooms to try to keep alligators in their enclosures are wading through the water to rescue koalas. All of 100 millimetres of rain has been recorded at Bhandara in the Northern Tablelands and for the first time in five years water flowed through a creek in a drought stricken regional town

12:06 Once again, Australia you're welcome. Well I got a note from my friend that was the biggest squeak I've heard your chair make yet. That's because i leaned way back cause I was enjoying the clip okay yeah and also got my volume cranked way up Yeah thats good it sounded fantastic Thanks for this show keeps me entertained this is from Neville You have to cry or laugh as most politicians in both our countries focus on anything as long as its not to the benefit of voters Thanks for the rain. It's been a big help to Australia and not just New South Wales, the climate change faith slash faith followers

12:48 has attacked our prime minister for the fires. It's his fault, as he does not do enough to change the climate crisis. This is even though our own scientists cannot say there is a direct link and have publicly said so. The Greenies will also not admit they have some responsibility build up of fuel and opportunity for fires About 15 or 20 years ago, they pushed greeny policies through state and local governments slowed or stopped back burning. Hello? Yeah yeah Closing roads and reduced management of national parks imposing huge fines on farmer managing their own fire risk and preventing clearing trees and growth near housing estates

13:38 They also will not recognize most fires are started by people, often on purpose and some by accident. Anyway go and prepare as heaven forbid it is summer in Australia and it's unlikely to warm up again." He wants a It's True for this comment now so I'm watching Christina Amanpour and she's got some Aussie on there and she's arguing that He's arguing that climate change didn't cause these fires and he kind of made the same points are That Neville here is making which is this mismanagement. They've let it happen Yeah, even even though have even the Aborigines say hey You know we didn't have this Happened when we were in charge everything here because we knew what to do We'd we take care we set little fires keep stuff smoldering all summer long so we had a kind of contained

14:29 Yeah, you have to do this in these areas. So this guy's arguing with Christina Amapur who is going on and on with every litany 97% of all scientists how can you say such a thing? And she is just all-in which we will discuss later in the show, a true believer and this guy says here's the problem that were really starting to witness now People don't want to do anything to prevent fires anymore because it's so much easier To just blame climate change for everything. Yeah, that makes sense I was all in with this guy what he said yeah? Oh, it's climate change this fall okay well we just had to do something about that and then we won't they won't have these fires anymore and Okay, you know That's the same in California death that's the same in California It's a same attitude essentially

15:21 Yes, California has the same series of problems. Like when I was working for the air pollution district we would have these burn days and it was always carefully calculated when you did them so you wouldn't have an inversion layer but you'd have a burn day and they burned off of Solano County burned to the ground pretty much under controlled circumstances and you never had these problems. You wouldn't have paradise, the whole city burning to the ground how does that happen? So we came to the rescue and there's just no denying that we operated the rain sticks. These are high precision instruments, they're from Utah made by Sherry Osborne these things are official they are the real deal you I believe keep yours in a gun case during the day Gun safe! Gun safe? I'm sorry even better gun case...gun safe

16:11 To make sure there's no illegal use of it. I don't want anyone grabbing it or something, who God knows what would happen because we shook our sticks and there was about three day delay which of course part of that is just the time difference with Australia, the speed of light but also when people are listening to the show. But also people download them. Yes! Download the podcast yes. No that's exactly my point is that there's some delayed reaction and response in certain areas based upon one people download and listen to the show. The Perfunk who was in Indiana

16:47 He says, Sunday I wanted to send you a little report from the region. An episode behind his crib... blah blah blah. Uh he said three days ago i listened to the rain stick episode and for the next two days we had rain in Highland Indiana My hypothesis, he says is that some of the power of the rain stick is stored in the audio and then released when someone plays the episode which would explain why when you shake them on air You're getting blowback into their places. I think it's completely true And I know it sounds crazy But every single time been asked to shake the rain sticks It rains where it's supposed to rain and this was there wasn't five months have draught all of a sudden two podcasters step in but a bing-bada boom

17:27 Yeah, we've done it before but it also causes problems locally and elsewhere. Yeah, it does now we had pretty crappy weather and I just heard all of New York tune out yes okay they're gone staying with the Green New Deal George Monbiot I just got your joke there. George Monbiot, who is a... Is he just a columnist or...? He's a columnist activist. Yeah, well yeah the large is a major major socialist right and he writes for The Guardian and he has covered a lot of the climate crisis in The Green New Deal And he was interviewed in a talk show in the UK and I need to play this because This is I think a lot of people follow his thinking about people will follow him. He has a following

18:22 He's been around for a long time. I think he is very popular in these types of circles and here he explains what we really need to do, and it is right down the line at agenda 21 what we really need to in order to save the earth. as a consumer who do make change switch to a plant-based diet that's one big big change. Animal farming has this massive environmental impact, another one stop flying yeah but beyond that actually everything we have to do is... Stop eating meat! Stop flying these are number 1 and 2. Oh stop flying? Oh so you're gonna live in a cave?

19:22 Another one, stop flying. But beyond that actually everything we have to do is change the system We have to overthrow this system which is eating the planet with perpetual growth The system is eating the planet! Since when was GDP a sensible measure of human welfare? And yet everything that governments want to do is try and boost GDP Now people like OECD or World Bank say oh we're not asking for a lot of growth just 3% per year I mean, it's doubling in 24 years. We're bursting through all the environmental boundaries and screwing the planet already you want to double it? Double all that! Double it again keep doubling it It's madness we've got to find a better way of measuring human welfare than perpetual growth. We've gotta start ramping down all fossil fuel production and leave fossil fuels in the ground And at the same time this is a nice bit of it

20:17 It turns out that through massive rewilding, ecological restoration you can draw down a load of the carbon dioxide we've already produced. Huge amounts allowing the forests to come back the marshes to come back So I think this rewilding That's the get everybody to live in the cities thing. It's like, everybody live in the city so we can keep an eye on you and control ya... And then we'll rewild everything else! Rewild it! Draw down a load of carbon dioxide that we've already produced. Huge amounts allowing the forests to come back, the marshes to come back the sea floor to recover from trawling and stuff, they draw down carbon dioxide. And can take us a long way towards stopping climate breakdown at the same time as stopping ecological breakdown There's time but we can't do it by just pissing around at the margins of the problem-problem We've gotta go straight to the heart of capitalism an overthrow it! Yes! Wooo!

21:15 There you go. That's right, overthrow capitalism and we're done! That's all we need to do along with stop eating meat and rewild Yeah that guy... That guy indeed Why don't we just move on? We're gonna talk about this I'm also moved to this clip This is a guy that was on one of the One of the kind of quasi right-wing talk shows on the radio where they like to get guys on who are just kinda nuts. And this guy's been doing this for a long time, this is Les U Knight Get it? Les U Knight That his real name? Les U Knight? No Okay Alright That's his name though and that's the name he uses and he's on The Dory Monson Show

22:03 Here's a clip. Climate activist in Portland has come up with a solution for improving the environment he would like to see the human race eradicated. His name is Les Knight and he said that he has concluded the best thing for the planet would be a peaceful phase out of human existence well I knew i had to talk to this guy so let me welcome Les Knight. That's such a disc jockey, oh I knew I had to talk to this guy God is that.

22:52 Okay, so a peaceful phase-out meaning what now I know that you had for example It sounds like you got yourself a vasectomy many years ago because you didn't want to add to population. Is that right? That is correct Yes And so many people are telling me lately you go first and I'm saying okay I did now holy shit. I just had a great idea this makes so much sense Why? Oh, this... That is the fix to solve climate change. Forced vasectomies! Hold on I think you've made a philosophical blunder there. Oh? Well i don't think you have to force it.

23:33 Yes, I hear you. You go! Okay all right so tell me about this why do you think Earth would be better off if mankind was not a part of it? Well everywhere that we have left has flourished even Chernobyl which we can't go to for 24 thousand years because because of the radiation, all the other species that we had wiped out from there—bears and boars, all sorts of things are coming back. Why would we care about other animals more than we care about mankind? Well it's equal. It doesn't have to be more than. We are causing the sixth great extinction. Hundreds of thousands of species are going extinct because of us

24:24 And if we phase ourselves out voluntarily, we won't go involuntarily in the great collapse that is bound to come if we continue causing extinctions of other species. Now there's not going be any great collapse... I think you're right. What a great idea, because there's so many men who are so willing to virtue signal and show that they're on board not just with women and bringing more equality

25:06 But also to save the earth. Yeah, I think you're nuts off movement well now no wait wait Let's let's work on it. Let's work on a little bit of campaigning here for a second We need a chant so Hey-ho Your balls have got to go hey, hey Let's do something a little more subtle don't be daft Don't be silly save the earth snip your willy It's getting there. We'll work on it, okay? But this brought me to an interesting little aside I did a little research This guy...I looked him up and he is about 72 or so And he said that he had his vasectomy You already know where i'm going Well you think he's shooting blanks at this point He had a vasectomy at 24

26:06 It's not like he just got a vasectomy. Oh, but that was... So he didn't just get one? That's the whole point! Well this is what is interesting because I think there are a lot of guys like this out there because if you look at the timeline when he got his vasectomy according to my calculation it was a... That was the population boom probably Exactly. He got his first ectomy around 1974 based on the numbers, which Paul Ehrlich's book came out in 68 and that was the first salvo and then the Club of Rome which I mentioned earlier to you comes along and they came along and they were formed in 68 and in 72 they came out with their first report called The Economic Growth or Limits To Growth and then they came up with a second report

26:55 which after Limbus of Growth called Mankind at the Turning Point, and they were promoting the end of the world. If anyone remembers that it's old enough I should brief you on this. They were promoting the end of the world in the year 2000 because we're going to run out of resources and we have too many people And that would be the time to get a vasectomy. And to be clear... The End-Of-The World Population Bomb was as big a deal in the media then as climate change is today almost exactly the same. I want to just reiterate that this notion, which I believe resulted...I think there's a lot of people out there that are gullible

27:40 I'm going to use the word gullible. Yeah, probably. And so they're in a situation because they're so stupid and gullible that they had their... They got clipped in their twenties and I want to read this little tidbit from a... It's an abstract from out of the publication Social Biology performed in refused vasectomy, a decade of waning popularity and increasing awareness of safety Family, and I'm gonna stay abstract. Family planning clinics and a random sample of private physicians throughout the US were surveyed in 1972 and 84 to learn the incidence of performed and refused vasectomy and to discern attitudinal change over time toward delayed physical and psychological sequelae related into vasectomy that means after effects

28:32 Data show that after a dramatic rise in pop it dramatically. This is the key word here yeah, a dramatic rise Popularity in the early 1970s Wow. Incidence has fallen significantly in the intervening years and then they try to figure out why this was, and they said the greater decrease is reported by physicians... They think it was the physician's predilection to practice defensive medicine because you get sued every time somebody's balls swole up This to me is model right after the climate crisis which brought me to the third point Which is a book that should be in our reading list. Okay, it came out in 1951 called The Truth the True Believer

29:19 I'll read a little bit. Who wrote this? Eric Hoffer was kind of a lecturer and a longshoreman, he was called the Longshoremen Philosopher. He did a whole bunch of books, a whole bunch and they're all very readable but The True Believer that came out in 51 used to be standard reading in colleges because there was a problem with kids that were gullible. Gullible travels. And The True Believer was a correctional tome It was printed and stopped they stop printing in 2002 so it was on the market for 21 years and then they, you know who needs it let me just read a couple of things here.

29:56 Hoffer analyzes, this is from Wiki. Hoffer analyzes and attempts to explain the motives of the various types of personalities that give rise to mass movements why in how mass movements start progress and end and the similarities between them whether religious political radical or reactionary he argues that even when their stated goals are values differ mass movements are interchangeable And adherence will often flip from one movement to the other. And we saw that with the climate, soon as the world's going to freeze, same people. Yep! Went from a new ice age is coming to we're all gonna die in fiery hell

30:38 And that the motivations for mass movements are interchangeable. Thus religious, nationalist and social movements where they're radical or reactionary tend to attract the same type of followers." Same type of followers. Believing in the same way and the same tactics and theoretical tools. They use the same tactics as examples. And I should mention just part of the, part one a little synopsis. He says mass movements begin with a widespread desire for change from discontented people who place their locus of control outside their power and who also have no confidence in existing culture or traditions feeling their lives are irredeemably spoiled oh you've ruined my childhood!

31:25 Exactly. And believing there's no hope for advancement, oh we're all gonna die! Or satisfaction as an individual true believers seek self-renunciation thus such people are ripe to participate in a movement that that offers the option of subsuming their individual lives in a larger collective. And that's exactly what we're witnessing with climate change. I think you've nailed it, i think that is... The clip was not Clip of the Day worthy but this analysis certainly was. It's perfect time to shame men into doing this get the climate back snip your sack! There are million things we can come up with

32:09 Push the climate back. It's easy snip your sack I mean, there's just so many we can do yeah And then I snipped my sack to do now i'ma believe it We can just go on forever Oh this song Chris Wilson is rolling around and go to snip Well keep our eye on this if it's not already a thing I think we should promote this just To be good for the show We need, I mean we already have the women saying oh i'm not going to have children anymore. No mention by the way of sterilization or anything no just a conscious choice not to have children but we all know that it's really men who are the problem one man can spread his demon seed across multiple women so we know that we have to go to the source of the problem The problem with climate change is too many people That's because there are too many men Who have active organs Yeah you're checking all the boxes

33:06 Well, that's that can almost go in the red book that that's gonna happen. Can almost do it by the way that the landmark case With the kids who are suing the government for climate change because they didn't do enough Yeah tossed out Didn't even hear it just tossed out no No, this is not going to go I'm sorry for the kids If you people got there and read the book The True Believer they'll find there's a lot of He's got some very interesting theories how people get, they actually turn themselves immature and childlike which is why you had a leader like Greta who was 16 years old. It was ludicrous. The book is fascinating. I kind of left it out of the... I'm putting in the show notes right now. It has to go, it has to be read by everybody. Yeah, it's in the show notes, nashownotes.com

34:07 Now, very interesting. You mentioned a few minutes ago that you had clips from Christiana Anampur from CNN. No no! I said I saw the show Oh because i also was watching Christiana Anampur in these past few days and I did get some clips which I think are relevant considering that we now have a dream team for a dream team, for Trump's impeachment trial in the Senate. Even I didn't see this one coming! You have the two guys Alan Dershowitz who i respect, he is the proto-constitutional lawyer and before he didn't virtue signal against Trump he was always on CNN MSNBC it was everywhere everybody

35:00 hailed him, but then he said well you know according to the Constitution everyone hated him right down to Martha's Vineyard. Well I have the PBS intro clip to The Dream Team if you want just play that as an intro to what we're going to discuss. Yeah let me see... Imprach! It's under Imprach! President Trump legal defense team for his Senate impeachment trial is taking shape and expanding It was widely reported that it will include Ken Starr, the former independent counsel whose investigation led to President Clinton's impeachment and retired Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz.

35:38 White House counsel Pat Cipollone and Mr. Trump's personal lawyer Jay Sekulow are expected to lead the legal team during oral arguments beginning on Tuesday. So not only is Dershowitz but also Ken Starr both men involved in the slap-on-the-wrist prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein in Florida? You can't make this up! Both of those guys were involved in that deal with the Justice Department and Jeffrey Epstein to get him his little private cell where he could leave 10 hours a day and just go back to sleep, and yet is own wing. Those guys are doing this?

36:22 Here's Alan Dershowitz explaining what his role will be. The abuse of power allegation is that request conditioned on money that was federally mandated under the law for a different purpose... I'm sorry, playing it the wrong way around here he is talking about his role Well my job next week will be to present the constitutional case against impeachment A case that I've been presenting on your show in two books and 25 articles I will not deal with the nitty-gritty of the facts and whether there should be... Facts! Now he means something else, but some media training would be appropriate here. Dershicles I will not deal with the nitty-gritty of the facts. That's all you need that clip just play that over and over again on CNN that little bit is enough Whether there should be witnesses or not but just from a personal point of view The Constitution approach which was suggested in prior impeachments was always to have

37:21 facts presented to the House of Representatives, cross-examination. You then get a report and the report is what's put on trial The one thing that's critically clear is that if the Democrats are allowed to call witnesses President Trump's lawyers will have to be allowed to call witnesses and they're going to determine initially whether the witnesses are relevant On CNN all day, they've been saying today that Hunter Biden wouldn't be relevant. But of course he'd be relevant if witnesses were called because the issue is was he corrupt? Did the president legitimately have an interest in ferreting out corruption, including the corruption of Hunter Biden? So I think if the Democrats begin to open the door they will regret it. Also it will put the trial off for months maybe even longer than that because they're going to call Bolton. Bolton will want to testify. The President will invoke executive privilege and then the Senate will have to take that

38:15 That case to court and the court will have to decide either on a blanket way or question by question way whether or not Bolton has the right to answer these questions. Remember he doesn't get to make the decision It's made by the president in the first instance, and then the courts so according to the country's constitutional lawyer No way it doesn't even qualify And of course you said that on Fox News? He doesn't get to say that anywhere else I guess He kind of mentioned, yes a lot of this stuff isn't said anywhere else and he does mention that they're... I'll play this little clip. This is the clip his professor on testimonies

38:56 on impeachment. This is a professor from NYU who is on PBS, this is not CNN and this is not MSNBC and he just threw out this little snippet when it was when they were discussing the idea of bringing Hunter Biden onboard to testify. Like atmosphere maybe the press people in who he wants are people like Hunter Biden aren't directly relevant to the case And I think that's part of it is to try and flip the narrative into being about something else. How is Hunter Biden not part of the case? I would like someone to answer me this, but all of the... and including PBS on this. All of the news sources are making the claim that Hunter Biden is not part of a case. It's irrelevant! It has nothing to do with it? No, course not. And now if you want to contrast to that listen to this. I have a Rand Paul clip which is pretty hard to come by. It's something worth playing yeah certainly

39:51 Because he's usually pretty much kept out of the air. But here is Rand Paul talking about the same kind of thing. Can you think of any company anywhere in the world that would ever pay millions and millions of dollars to somebody? Is this Hannity? Yeah, and fourth that's all he can get on. I gotta tell you...I cannot watch that man. It is very hard And i don't it's-i can't listen to him on the radio He says there's something about him which is like oh you're just beating me with your wet blanket all the time stop That was the way he talks i guess. But experience do you could you would any business ever do that?

40:30 Well, it goes to the heart of the matter. The president's being accused of withholding foreign aid and his argument is well we were studying corruption and wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine And I think that Bidens are as corrupt as day is long No young man who's a son-of-a politician gets 50 grand a month who has no experience working for Ukraine Working for a Ukrainian oligarch, you know I mean for goodness sakes it smells to iHeaven. It smells like corruption and every day on the mainstream media they say oh there's no there there this has been investigated there is no corruption. I think the American people don't buy it but here's the thing as fair as fair and if their going to put the president through this their gonna have witnesses on both sides

41:14 But I'll tell you what my fear is, is that some Republicans are going to vote for witnesses. We'll get those the ones the Democrats want and then when we have the votes on bringing witnesses or letting the president choose his witnesses? I think those will fail not only because of those Republicans but because a whole variety of Republicans may not allow the whistleblower may not allowed Biden for one reason or another cause they served with him It turns out, and the Republican base sees that this looks like only Democrat witnesses and no presidential witnesses. I guarantee that the Republican base will punish those people who set up the kind of scenario... 100%...I can't support any Republican that does that! I could tell you right now. Yes, yes fine. And the narrative is about to fall apart let's shrink some amygdalas here

42:06 I got an email from a person who works at a DC lobbying firm and i've confirmed that with one of the partners of the firm. This doesn't happen often but the partner actually confirmed this, now I want to read this. This is about Lev Parnas and Lev Parnas is you know that guy with the hair stuck on his head? He's bald, but he just thinks it looks good if he sticks those strands and glues them. So he is described as Rudy Giuliani's crony you know? He's out there doing deals, he's trying to spy on the ambassador or whatever This is very important to understand Les Parnas was a client of the lobbying firm I work for in DC and I confirmed that Here's the important thing to know about Lev

43:02 He paid Rudy Giuliani $500,000 for him to copy the business model of LifeLock. And this makes sense because I kept trying to figure out what is this company that he used to donate campaign funds through fraudulently apparently or that's under indictment called Fraud guarantee which you know the mainstream laughed about this why you can't make this stuff up that guys are fraudster He has a company called fraud guaranteed. Haha, no one actually looks into it and This is true the guy tried to create lifelock Which is a great company who will email you from time to time and say oh You better keep your subscription up for $25 a month. We found your information on the dark web, you don't want any I'm not kidding The keeper left it she because she had life lock and she left it Because I said I don't want all my shit in a single point of failure

43:57 And ever since she left it, she's getting all these threatening emails. Oh we found you on the dark web! There is information about you in the dark web! Sign up now to get off of the dark web So, Giuliani was helping him advising him recreate the lifelock business model. So, Rudy Giuliani was working for him not the other way around and this guy... The trouble he got into is for bribing local officials for pot licenses so the accusation from the lobbying firm employee is he's just doing this to raise his own profile

44:33 his own political profile maybe but certainly profiled in America. Avanadi too! Sorry? Avanadi too! Completely an Avenadi story except Avenadi didn't stick the hair on his head he went full bald enter Christiane Anampour she does an interview with a foreign minister of Ukraine Vadim Pristaiko This is the Secretary of State, this is the Foreign Minister. This is the guy who deals with everything with other countries he deals with the United States State Department and he's been in the inner circle of Zelensky since before he got elected and throughout his entire first year in office

45:18 Christiane Anampour is so help and the guys in I think it was actually in DC at the embassy's you know, it's outside shot. And he's you know, just doing this interview. He has business in Washington, D C because that's what foreign ministers do Christiane Annapur is so hell-bent on getting him to admit about this quid pro quo and it's so obvious that Lev Parnas, you know he's the missing link in everything. Now we can finally get rid of the president. But she can't make it happen, and her valiant efforts are well appreciated. But this clip which ran on CNN International has not aired once on CNN in the US And this is one of the main guys who would know exactly what's happening He is just like Hillary Clinton was a sidekick to Barack Obama when she was Secretary of State The guy was on the call

46:14 I have a couple of clips from this interview. Rudy Giuliani, who is the president's personal lawyer has now spoken out as you know and he has said several things mostly that he did carry a very explicit message from the president via

46:50 Rudy Giuliani that there would need to be a quid pro quo if Ukraine was going to continue getting any kind of assistance, financial military political whatever kind of assistance. And furthermore he has now said that he is spoken to key officials within President Zelensky's circle since you are one of those and you were when this happened did you get that message from Lev Parnas? Now, you have to kind of get into the guy's speech pattern because he is obviously not a native English speaker. His English is impeccable but it has a heavy accent and is a little jerky But the question is very clear and obvious It's all Ukrainian media as well today and yesterday And strangely enough my name was not mentioned although I am Minister for Foreign Affairs And frankly I never spoke with this individual And again frankly I don't trust any word that he is now saying

47:44 The assistance which he is referring to was reviewed each and every year, annually at least twice. And half a year at the end of the year so we knew that this assistance is to be reviewed sometimes it would be cut because of some political understanding of what is to be done in Ukraine Sometimes being erased which now we are observing So I know it's, you'll get into it as you listen to him but he saying no this is very normal. It's very normal every six months we adjust, we talk to the State Department talked to our counterparts sometimes things have to be adjusted down We have to do certain things all in normal course of business This Lev Parnas guy yeah not quite sure what he is He seems like has his own problems As he said he's fighting for his own case The guy when he did the interview with Rachel Maddow had a GPS tracker on his ankle

49:00 Because he's on bail, he is not allowed to leave the country etc. But! That doesn't work for Christiana Ampour. Let's make sure... You say that your name hasn't been mentioned public, I just want to make sure that you will never receive this kind of message verbally or otherwise from anybody connected with Rudolph Giuliani or representing the president Just to make sure you didn't trick me and someone else told you there was a quid pro quo Are you really sure? I never met Rudy, I never met this Parnas and all other names mentioned. I believe that people are now trying to raise their political importance. I've never had the chance and frankly we don't need these channels our channels of communication with Americans are well established

49:47 If some of the unofficial contacts through the advisors, that's why advisors for. We took the official formal part were happy with the conversation I was at all the meetings and the conversation is a telephone on the person with President Trump and they can tell you with all certainty that he was never mentioned that we have to do something and president Zelenskyy was always telling him that whatever this message and the lesson you were teaching us all these 30 years of our independence, that it should be rule of law and should do independent judiciary and prosecutor general from the present. We finally got their message we are not going to intervene because of some political gains with all them if you have information send us through official channels which is prosecutors general's office You have your prosecutor general we have ours let them talk at great if anything to be investigated less investigate this

50:35 Again, we understand there are always things that are political or things that need to be done for particularly in the arena of corruption in Ukraine We understand sometimes all or parts of the funds are held withheld delayed because we have to do something Very normal course of business just send us the changes whatever you need. We'll get right on it but but but Didn't the president get all pissed off and not attend the inauguration because there was no formal announcement of investigating the Bidens? Clearly, the United States had made it clear that either the President or the Vice President was going to come to President Zelensky's inauguration. And this we are told also was a

51:19 Mentioned by either Lev Parnas, Rudy Giuliani or a number of people who they say were carrying message to your president It didn't happen as you very well know. They didn't come to the inauguration I can tell you why we had some blame on our side because we had to do it in very fast way President Zelensky wanted to leave the Parliament free from his new presidency. And we have just a couple of days to make it legal, we've been limited by ourselves and time so we gave quite short notice to all the nations and in our case, in American case Secretary Perry came We believe that would have somebody else if you want to If he give more time for foreign delegations

52:05 So now he could be covering, that would be the one view of this. But what he's saying and you know this is the kind of like a number two guy in the country... No we made the decision at you know a couple days before it's not easy to move the president or vice president if we had want really wanted that level to show up we would have planned it differently. We got Secretary Perry then it was secretary of energy. We feel that was pretty appropriate okay One more time. This can't be true! What about that ambassador, Sondland? He clearly said quid pro quo. This can't be true! Okay so let's just be perfectly clear Mr Foreign Minister Even the President's own ambassador to the EU, Sondland who was tasked with the Ukrainian brief says there was a quid pro quo

52:54 Was there a quid pro quo as far as you know? And were you surprised when you did actually hear that military aid was being suspended. I know personally Ambassador Salonen and have to again remind you that he was political appointee, He was not on the formal side of the State Department. He was also close to the circles which were sort of trying to get in their own business like way Maybe he was bringing message, but if you read in his statement, he never talked to me. Although I was the advisor and then minister for the first about any people or any unofficial channels always of what we can do to get closer to President Trump? No, he was talking to some people who believed it was instrumental at that time. I personally see that we are OK with this support we have right now and we don't need sorry to be blunt

53:49 and we don't need this unofficial support. It's not on the level at the level when we have with American Americans already, we can have the support and if we are told that the assistance military assistance can be affected by some lack of reform This is a normal conversation We had was American so many times before And during this particular year you're describing right now. We had a couple of times to explain to members of Congress that we understand that this is not coming from the sky, it is connected to some reforms we have to do two changes and what were doing so? It was not about political gains on any side. We heard this assistance is important or we told them that this is important and it's connected to some reforms which we are doing

54:33 And that was it. She could not beat it out of him and this is, as far as I understand kind of the crux of this abuse-of-power which we now know is not constitutional impeachment article Well...I mean..I know you slipped into my subconscious the idea of clip of the day No! These clips are difficult I would give you a clip for the day because its really an outstanding clip and unbelievable catch But because that guy is so difficult to listen to, I'm going to give you a borderline. Okay and i'll accept the border line it's completely fair. But that is the whole... now it's just the foreign minister we also have the actual president saying no there's no pressure

55:26 Now, they could be lying. Trump may have a gun to their head behind the scenes? I don't know! Seems unlikely. They're Ukrainians if anyone's got a gun it's them. So to me that just kind of shuts it all down. I'm not sure what you're actually going to talk about, but it seems like this is all... You know we're moving from... This is the Mueller Report rate ducks! It's the same kinda thing a bunch of oh...I had lunch with one of the Lib Joes Oh my goodness this should have been top-of-the show Well what we had at Top Of The Show was better

56:06 And bringing in the true believer, I think epitomized the lib joe. It was a fine conversation we talked about normally and then at the very end when Trump was mentioned this is why i was listening to you on the bankers thing because everyone's no one saying anything about trump because you never triggered him It took me a while, but I finally triggered him. Oh you had to trigger him? Interesting... And you didn't do that! No well hello i was uh....I was a guest. Yeah no you shouldn't be unless you wanted Tina to be irked for a couple of weeks You didn't want to trigger them because if you triggered them and you got what I got oh my god here's a couple little tidbits one Lev is the most important guy ever

56:52 Ever I mean it more important that who was the last most important guy forgot who? Whatever Colin or Of a naughty Cohen exactly all the same. Yeah, it's gonna say devil this guy Trump is done The Democrats are going to get both the House and the Senate in 2020. And then if he's still in office somehow, because it's a possibility that Trump as a solo act which never happened I've watched this and you have too. The president doesn't come in and then loo every like nobody votes for Republican president and then votes a Democratic ticket they just don't do it now

57:41 But no, that's what is going to happen. And then because the Senate... Wait did you say hold on let me put that in the red book? Did you do that? I was writing down but didn't have anything to write on but memorized most of it because there are bets available Everybody is going to jail! Everybody who has worked with Trump so far has gone to jail. Wait wait wait, did the topic of thousands of sealed indictments come up I by me, I said. I was just saying he's just a reflection of the other crazy side of things but He said Barr is going to jail for jail Is this the Giuliani? Jail jail jail in the bar jail bars the worst by the way according these guys now I don't know where they're getting us But somehow Barr has turned into this you know great guy To this horrible person that's going to jail

58:37 Did they mention any kind of charge? Vague. Corruption, everybody's corrupt the whole operation this is the most and then what was funny about this conversation was first he starts off with and he actually had a better list than I had at the top of my head of Trump's accomplishments He had, you know pretty much every one of them. People would say well here's what Trump has done and he had them all! Okay And the reason that Trump has accomplished what he has is just by sheer luck Oh it was really the process of the government that made it all work Yeah But so but he's doomed... Well that's very similar to the opportunity zone like oh no that's just Trump happened to be there that that happened

59:25 Yeah, it went coinkydinky. So anyway so I got a kick out of it that was it? That was the only uh... The problem is that this is what brought me by the way this is what brought me around to to the idea that this was, he's incredulous. He won't listen to anything and he won't listen to anything other than what his sources are which you won't tell me I told him what they were CNN MSNBC because he's a MSNBC guy New York Times for sure in The Washington Post period That's your four sources of information for most of these people And this is why, and this got me to thinking about the gullibility factor. These people and there's a lot of them and it really concerns me

1:00:09 that they're just hook, line and sinker. They are so gullible that they believe this stuff without any critical thought whatsoever and they don't even care to hear anything opposite of whatever they've bought into it. I would put this on the climate science people, the climate crisis people The people that were into the new ice age and air and the people who got there they got clipped when they're in their 20s This is dig. They're gullible, and this my friends are gullible Gullibles travels Man oh man. Oh man that and this was the professor yeah well he's getting it from both ends so to speak I

1:00:54 I mean he's getting it from the academia and from Rachel. Rachel Maddow, I love that because it's literally the same thinking on both sides they're all going to jail they're all corrupt It's a mirror image. He is complete it's well, it just kind of good because when you disturb one for us Don't give away the secrets of the show If you change something on one side You may see a complete and equal change on the other side matter an anti-matter. Yes Oh Now we're deep Wow

1:01:39 It's somewhat disappointing because it's like you think people would be having to try to think for themselves a little bit, but it's just litany. It's just bang-bang-bang and I'm almost like I might as well have Rob Reiner at the table Man talk about things. Talk about being good for the show That would that's by the way Rob Reiner is a buddy if I could ask people friendly Would you please refrain from filling out online forms for people to be a guest on the no agenda show? It's very embarrassing to the show twice maybe three times a week I get an email from an author from someone who has another podcast from you know, like oh

1:02:22 Hi, we want you on the No Agenda show and then they sign it Adam Curry adamcurry.com ha ha ha So then I have to explain now this is just some overzealous fan i guess You know we don't have or some joker one of the show haters but its like People subscribing me to the idiotic newsletters luckily most of them check before they auto subscribe And I believe you. Did you just recently do a new one? Just the other day? No, I haven't for awhile. That's me! Thanks bud but yeah for guests it's just rude and it wastes time and you're not funny and you know we don't have guests so stop it don't do it thank maybe you thought you were helping but you're not. Yeah...I don't think they thought they were helping. It is just a form of harassment could be could be by the way

1:03:22 You know, the transmission of the articles of impeachment was what? 28 days 30 days. I'm now thinking now that i've had a good look at these pens these are Mont Blanc pens Oh they're Mont Blancs with gold... Talk about wasting taxpayers money! They're about... Now well she got them it's uh they're engraved with Nancy Pelosi signature Yeah that's a good one I think they had to wait for the pens to get delivered. Wow! What else could it be? They had 30 of these pens, probably about three grand each so that's not bad you know ninety thousand dollars. You think they were that expensive? I mean maybe a grand. No, I looked at Montblanc pens and the one that resembles...I don't see the exact pen

1:04:16 In their lineup, so maybe even a total custom job for all I know. But the one that looks like the most is $3,000. $3000? That's engraved as include engravings. That's before engraving. What?! Yes! Montblanc pens are not cheap. I mean that you've gotten that pen as the souvenir, and I'm sure what they're gonna end up in a little display case but I just use it who's Baking in some loose site yeah Yeah It's uh they may have at least a week for those pens You know that and you know she was really hammering on the date being the December 18th And this was important so I think she had that date on the pan is engraved with her signature

1:05:02 The dates on the pen? Yes, the date of the impeachment. Oh, the day of the impeachment not the date of their transfer. No, the date of the impeachment which is her whole thing she wants it December 18th she wants it to be remembered that school children need to remember this you know what she did Paul Revere nursery rhyme. Yeah, yeah there's an infamy she's not gonna get anything out of this just this is going nowhere for her well I think she's gonna be famous You know, in the history books? In her mind she's there already. She will be remembered as the first female Speaker of the House that that's a kind of big deal but I can't...I doubt you could name me the Speaker of the House during the Roosevelt administration which probably was pretty secure situation Can you? No! I can either, I don't know who it was

1:05:53 Who's the speaker of the house during Truman? I don't know. And again, people don't seem to care anymore They're moving on with their lives. They'll just watch Rachel and... You think that, but then when I got the triggering going because they see me, you know boom! Next thing you know corruption and horrible person, orange man bad everyone's going to jail unbelievable All right i'll try some triggering next time but it's not gonna be a birthday Well you better do it on an individual basis cause if you get in as large group It could trigger each other, it could be an explosion. The whole hotel could have gone up in smoke. Like a nuke With that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say In the morning to you the man who put the C in Vasek to me John C. Dave Curry! In the morning to you Mr Adam J. C. Curry or something What? Jay Really? Mm-hmm See Adam Clark

1:06:53 Yes. Clark Curry, Adam Clark Curry would you sound like a paper company? In the morning to you in the morning all the ships and sea and the boots on the ground defeat in the air The subs in the water! And all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to the trolls who are always hanging out at noagendastream.com Let's see how many trolls we have there today We have little troll counter 1240 hello trolls all looking beautiful all the same height They are there to listen to the show live. We have a number of shows on NoahJennerStream.com which go live, but we also roll them out just the latest podcast episodes is 24 hours a day you log in you listen it's great for in-the-car great for on-the-go and You can enter the chat room and or that's kind of the troll room And you can hang out with people discuss find out more and troll

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1:08:36 It's funny, it's a complaint I get at home too. And you rolled your eyes and then you said okay well we'll give it a shot because what you said when you convinced you finally was that it jumped off the page. Yeah popped off the page. It was the only one that popped up. We're always looking for pops But yeah, it was a funny piece. That was Amy Klobuchar as a Wallace and Gromit character. And the compliments were abundant so it was a good choice, good piece by Nick we thank all the artists who are always in friendly competition No, it's friendly. It's friendly they're always thanking each other on Twitter like congratulations! No agenda art generator dot com is where you can see all the submissions there's a lot there There's ten times as much art as we could ever use

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1:10:19 He came in with one of his coded numbers, 1232. $1232 First of all thank you, Sironymous and now for the decoding of the number and the note Well a couple things This is not really one of his normal notes this is a note because he's established a fund for new daming Right Thanks for all the producers that make the best source of news in the known universe. The value from this show continues to be immeasurable to me my effort for Dame lady support seemed too complicated now Then he says this please credit the women that donated to show 1200 Games are not included in his promotion is to add new roundtable members So I don't know what he means by this so He says four episode if I understand him correctly

1:11:15 Episode 1200 female donors receive his fund. Well for this particular go around, Brittany Allison Olga Sherry Lindsay Cassidy Jennifer there's a bunch of them Oh he wrote him down or you looked him up? I looked him up To simplify this promotion, any woman that donates at least double nickels on the dime for this show and the previous show will share equally in the donation credit toward their totals. This has to be divided up I rely on you two to determine the divisor and identify them The troll room can confirm things if you like I knew it was going to be too easy He's finally come around and decided he wants to make us work

1:12:09 When does that not happen? We have to... and by the way we are passing this off to Eric right for him to figure out. He's not gonna do it Well, of course we can do this. Separately... Okay now he has this thing here he wants me to change his mind about this part but I'm gonna just kind of summarize He apparently Rene DuPont in show 1206 is the woman who had the courage she had the courage that where he puts it to hope she would share in the Dame Drive from promotion I thought there was just a smart move on her part

1:12:50 Because she came out and said hey. Yeah, so he's going to give her an insta Dame Wow When he when she comes up with a Dame lady title And so there's another thousand dollars in abeyance which is not not on this not included in the original promotion No, it's not included in this donation. Okay? It's part of the original promotion right I'm very confused so day I know I know I am too But I've got kind of a handle on but Renee if she gets hold of us if she's listening And she should be listening if she's so sincere and if she's that and now she can condemn me for using the word so

1:13:33 She'll get in touch with us and give us a title, and then we'll insta-name her at some later event. Producer note he writes... Being on a non US commercial carrier over a country's airspace when the country launches missiles can be disruptive to air travel. You may experience some discomfort during flight. Then he says as he finishes off I hope yum yum Keeps his missiles in his pants during my visit next month. What he's going to North Korea? Oh, my gosh This is fantastic mystery now No jingles no karma so we don't know So anyway that's where we stand I'd like a souvenir. I'm thinking of poster It's a really bad joke so all the women who donate the show 1200 and there's at least 12 of you You can drop 100 bucks into your account nice just the way I see it

1:14:33 Makes sense now Okay, so is there any other work that needs to be done in the show notes or no? No we're good. We're good to go Good Wow you know he's truly the patron I know he doesn't want any titles He doesn't want us to call him anything other than saronimus of dog patch and lower slow bovia But what a fascinating guy or gala. You don't even know if it's a man or woman quite honestly You know it's a man. Oh, we talked about his wife. Oh okay all right Well, thank you so much and this is a new twist to the value for value model. Yes. Now we kind of understand... This has become a game show! And you get a car and you get a car! Yes sir Oprah of Dogpatch in Lower Slovovia well thank you very much Sir Animas that is above-and-beyond and incredibly appreciated and welcome and it helps big time

1:15:31 And I'm just followed up by Allison. Yes, it was gonna give him a karma Just no he wants to know jingles no karma. He's that's what he specifically says well and I think it may you know? Yeah, I think he doesn't want Literally doesn't want Karma okay Well have us have a fun trip in NoCo we cannot wait to hear how it was and yeah We wanna report we wanna report. I'm pretty sure that after we smoked We smoked, what's his name? Suleimani. I'm pretty sure Rocket Man has piped down a little bit." He was like, hmmm... that could hurt!

1:16:09 Allison Ostrander comes in next from Manor, Texas. And he's a show guy! He's 1209 is what he comes in with. Wow! A show number haven't had that in awhile of course. Noticeably yeah. The higher they go... wow! What? He says $1,000 to make executive producer and instant night for my Tony the Keeper Who was the one who hit me in the mouth over 10 years ago? Listening to the podcast, I don't know how Eric's got this listed but is there an instant night Tony the Keeper. Yeah, hold on. Hold on. Hold on I'm checking the shirts on there Yes Tony the keeper is Listening to the podcast has become almost like church in our house as we look forward to listening to the live episodes together On Sundays how nice a 200 bucks is on there for her newest human resource to get her on the producer listing Okay, we have to put her on the producers list. I guess okay

1:17:03 And to be one of the youngest producers in Noah's Gen, just shy of four months. Well on her way to being one of the youngest knights, dames I guess. No name given so that makes it rough for us to put her on the producer list but okay. G or nine dollars for myself so I can officially be de-douche'd. You've been de-douche'd! And if Adam has not already jumped the gun, where did that phrase come from? That is... There's got to be a gun on the ground you jump it. No that's the starter gun! The starter gun you jump the gun. Oh yes duh duh duh duh I would like to ask for 3D douchings please. I hope to work towards my own knighthood on our next big donation. You know what 3d douchings is?

1:18:00 Now come on, I'm gonna do them. You've been de-douche'd! There's nothing wrong with that... One more one more. You've been de-douched! I mean my god man we're always talking about no deduchings unless requested now there's a request for three and you want to thwart that request? No what are you like Trump in Ukraine? What is wrong with you?! Also like to ask for jingles now in case it takes a second to find he's already produced these George Clooney is the spy bugs but. Bugs bomb them bomb them and it's gonna be amazing jobs over our karma for all and then, all of the jingles have become common household lingo for us those that. It's kind of funny true so true is true

1:18:48 That's the only, we still use that at dinner table. Those that know agenda together stay together and that karma has certainly helped with my job as well as your excellent analysis I'm an educational options trader. An educator options trader. High school teacher who wants to make money and trades options at night And oftentimes when I pair your analysis of global events with my technicals it keeps my accounting profitable Not accounting, not accounting. Trading account the accounts yeah we're helping her trade keeps it yeah well that's what we do just recently with my with the Iran situation after your expert coverage along with a charts I decided to stay bullish

1:19:40 in my account as colleagues discuss the mainstream media and we're putting on hedges. I stayed the course, needless to say! I went into this holiday weekend with nice gains in my account and I feel that needed share the love of... Oh that's where he got the 1209. Yes, of course! Thank you! I love hearing that. People freaking out oh my god a world is gonna be World War III Pretty much that. George Clooney is a spy. Bugs! Bugs, bugs, bugs! Bomb them and bomb them again. Oh what is on it? Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma

1:20:35 Okay, I gotta go to the emails because Neville...I thought I printed his mail out and I may have but to be honest about it digging and digging through the You know what that means. Whenever John has to go to the mail, it's not just any old mail It's not Outlook! It's not Eudora or anything like that No...it's not Firebird or something like-no, no It is the original, the only email program That guaranteed to work for any type of mail And he never gets no spam Ladies and gentlemen John C. Dvorak is going to get your email He's retrieving it from The Only Place That Matters

1:21:17 This is actually $909.94 Australian Wow, how sad is that? It's pretty bad but it's the rain Oh yeah this is the note I read earlier Okay we'll read it again Yeah, thanks for the show. It keeps me entertained and you have to laugh or cry as most politicians of both our countries focus on anything as long as it's not for the benefit of voters! Thanks for the rain it has been a big help to Australia and not just NSW. The climate change faith followers has attacked our Prime Minister for the fires says he does not do enough to change the climate crisis

1:21:56 as we read earlier. Yes, they were not recognized most fires are started by people and often on purpose by some some by accident anyway better go and prepare is heaven-forbid it's summer in Australia likely to warm up again and he would like a it's true as his jingle and I think we should give him the karma okay that's you've got karma By the way...By the way....I think The Keeper and I am gonna make it happen this year September or October we're gonna do Australia and New Zealand. Good, that'll be fun! Yeah I'm very excited Sir Mike in Las Vegas $333.34 needs some health karma from my mother in the hospital also some karma for my two human resources in college two at the same time what was I thinking?

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1:30:42 A little anecdote regarding the tea dropping craze, which I believe you may have touched upon a few shows back when i was growing up. You could always tell when someone was not from my hometown when they pronounced it. Natives always said Toronto Well, visitors forced a second tea as in Toronto. Yeah I would say that...I think there are some words i've noticed and people have pointed out that even I dropped some teas but it's a little different than important yeah that point is different than dropping a tea and something yes I agree with you what you just said almost the reverse of what is happening now and I imagine if trends continue that poor second team may be lost forever

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1:34:48 And this is the hot mic clip that CNN released. So, you know we had Bernie and Elizabeth Warren going at it at the end and she said, You called me a liar on national television! And when you couldn't hear that during the original debate at the end... ...you could just see Bernie extending his hand, Liz Warren's pissed off, there's clearly something going on Tom Steyer standing there like a dope And just listen to the audio. The Steyer thing is still the key to this whole thing, to me. Let's listen to the audio again. I think you called me a liar on national TV? Let's not do it right now! You want to have that discussion we'll have that discussion. Anytime! You called me a liar...you told ME! Alright let's not do it now. I don't wanna get involved I just wanna say hi first. It's the Steyer. Now what was very interesting

1:35:41 is that this was obviously, we certainly deconstructed it to be a a move on CNN's part to push Bernie out. That was the whole argument about could a woman win the election and then this happened at the end, no one heard it. Oh crap we gotta make Bernie look even stupider! Let's get the audio out and it appeared in a report on CBS with I think this is Nora. Senator have you spoken to Senator Warren? Neither Senator Bernie Sanders nor Senator Elizabeth Warren wanted to discuss what everyone else is talking about, their confrontation after Tuesday night's debate.

1:36:22 I think you called me a liar on national TV. What? I think you called me a liar on national TV Let's not do it right now, we want to have that discussion We'll have that discussion You called me a li- You told ME Alright let's not do it now The disagreement stems from whether he once told her Now did you hear a difference I shall play... that wasn't Nora O'Donnell obviously. I'm gonna play the CBS report snippet again. Their confrontation after Tuesday night's debate. I think you called me a liar on national TV? The original audio as played by this show on the previous program is different You see she messed it up, she said, A liar on national TV

1:37:09 I think you called me a liar on national TV. So, I don't know why but they decided to double the exact same piece instead of the original clip? I remember it as...I think you call me a liar on national TV not i think a liar or whatever she said there but at the first part was extremely garbled and you couldn't hear it. I think there's even a third version of this but it's yeah, I don't know... just to clarify, I don't think it was illegal quote-unquote. Well maybe not illegal. They're just trying to make it...I don't think they need to repeat it. I think they could have used the one question. Now now the thing about this I found is that CNN doubled down

1:37:59 by having a body language person on to discuss this. Did you get it? I haven't yet, but I just want to point something out. Is it the one from YouTube is that lady? No no this is different when I've never seen this woman before. She's the best. This is a woman named Janine and at the clip if you want to cue it up yeah unfortunately I spelled it Hanin I believe or something stupid I got non-eaten dry body language. But anyway, the thing that I noticed about this or was thinking about and I'm glad you got that other clip from CBS

1:38:36 And I pointed this out in the newsletter that The New York Times, in particular has been going after Bernie. David Brooks came out with a column saying something about Bernie's a jerk and then The New York Times has a reporter that just goes after Bernie They are now pulling out all the weapons they can to submarine Bernie's campaign They don't play as obviously they don't play his rallies because they're just not gonna do that Well the rallies have numbers, they look great Yeah, they've got big numbers. And God forbid we get the election we deserve in America put the socialists against the capitalists. So they're making sure Bernie doesn't really have much of a chance but he still keeps his numbers up so they've got to do all these other things this particular analysis is quite interesting and it course it makes they make it clear that Bernie is a liar Scandals hurt you more when they seem plausible right? This is not CNN this is our favorite Joy Reid show on MSNBC

1:39:33 Bernie Sanders does have a sort of physicality, you know when he talks. There's the shaking your finger at Hillary Clinton, shaking your finger, shubby weirdy... You know his physicality makes me think yeah he could have said listen I think in this environment a woman can't win that doesn't seem like a crazy thing from the feds. Well first of all i think Bernie is lying We see him, he slouches forward anyway Joy but here he turtles if you look at his eye level where he normally He turtle He does do that. He is a turtle, he gets like his head goes down and shoulders come up. She makes the assertion and this is an interesting one to look for if your eyes drop below your shoulders because you've dropped your head down you're turtling yeah that is an indication of a liar

1:40:20 So he's a reptile. This is the best part. He could be too. When he makes the denial, his whole shoulders come up like a little kid getting caught. His eye level is below his shoulders this is trying to hide in plain sight and many of us we don't know what to look for so if you look for this right out of the gate and the strongest denial is simply saying no and I think women in particular we want to believe human beings Yeah, I would say that. He literally said well as a matter of fact I didn't say it That's nine words Unnecessary no Did you vote for Donald Trump in the last election? Absolutely no Right so did you dress up as an Easter Bunny on Easter? Absolutely not right So it's no we say no absolutely is actually not the strongest denial You're playing with me here and again but at least your getting to know him here We are not hearing the No with Bernie

1:41:08 Also with Bernie, he has numerous hotspots. He says well liars like to start with well he looks away he laughs I think you might have been coached to laugh in this moment a lot of politicians are coached to laugh in the difficult times so we're focused on the laughter and it's supposed to send a message that this isn't serious It is serious if he said it which I believe that he did he would have been better to just own it You know Barack Obama wrote a book years ago years ago And he said what in the book? cocaine and marijuana, and he never touched the stuff again. We never talked about it when he was president after that. If Bernie just owned it this would disappear we wouldn't be talking about it six days later. But Bernie you did the opposite! What does that say about you mainstream media? That you never talked about it...we talked about it what was that Larry Sinclair talked about it quite extensively President Obama apparently was smoking a lot of things back in the day

1:41:58 Yes, I don't really have what I do have. I finally got these super cuts analysis what the The m5m thought of the debates and this is pretty much all MSNBC CNN PBS CBS NBC This was not the type of night of ambition we expected It was a dull and plodding debate there weren't a lot of fireworks fire did you know could you feel the crackling in here no not really even any pointed questions we saw no one swing big nobody looked good on the debate stage tonight for me was dispiriting caution was the most active participant Democrats have to do better what we saw at night I want this race to get tougher

1:42:38 Is anybody confident looking at these people? There was nothing I saw tonight that would be able to take Donald Trump out. This race has been gentle and whoever comes out the other side is running against Donald Trump How is this going to condition the ultimate nominee to take on The beast that Donald Trump is Everybody's weakest performance If you can't take on and take charge in the debate, what gives people the confidence You can do that with Donald Trump Yeah, I'm feeling the swoop coming here she comes by the way. I did that at the table last night I said Hillary's gonna swoop in didn't bat an eye thought it was normal that I did that So Hillary is now pretty much owning Sundance Festival Everybody's talking about the Hilary documentary

1:43:29 which airs on Hulu March 6th, which is just the timing is just kind of beautiful. If you're interested I can play the trailer where they have a new trailer out some of the audio...I think particularly at the end of this trailer really tells you what she's thinking. I provoked strong opinions. Are we ready? There's so much to talk about, okay...I didn't grow up thinking about going into politics but much to my surprise was elected president of the Republicans! I got into law school and thought I'm gonna try to make a difference in people's lives. I took her class and I saw Hillary sitting there

1:44:21 And he was watching me. She closed the law book I said if you're gonna keep looking at me, and I'm going to keep looking back we oughta know each other's names I'm Hillary Rodham who are you she was different than anybody? I ever met I said really want to marry you, but you shouldn't marry me There is a set of expectations about her first lady. I violated them from the very beginning She brought to the forefront women's roles in society This is radical feminism He decided to ask Hillary to become Secretary of State. It surprised people. Hillary's polarizing. Human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights! People would run up, clutching copies of that speech reciting that line from it

1:45:05 Email. Email. Emails, boom! Bang! It played into all of the suspicions She's so sketchy Cold Calculating She could actually be crazy There is a sense that she knows that she is an ethical moral person and that can blind anyone You know you get scarred up a little bit It wasn't like I thought how can I think about the most stupid thing? I could possibly do to it. I didn't want anything to do with him Chelsea put herself between us and held both our hands As long as she has been in public light, there have been these ups and downs. You know be our champion go away. You want to make a difference you want to have an impact Well then you got to get in the arena

1:45:48 You gotta get in the arena! I'm telling you, man. This is a campaign ad. She is... I wonder how many if the trailer just has they have a bunch of these hypnotic vamps and then they play kind of a lullaby thing later in that trailer? I wonder if during the show itself there gonna be trying to trick us with music Oh to play that kinda music and then just suck us in Yeah. Well, what I'm always looking for is okay what is going to be the insurance policy this year?

1:46:25 Because obviously the Senate is not going to kick the president out, just seems highly unlikely. Anything could happen and it would be great for the show but it seems highly unlikely We've already heard the mainstream say there's no one can take on Trump none of these guys can do it guys and gals No every now they call him a beast! Who will take on Trump? The Beast?! So let's go... It was in that clip series that you played. I know, and there was an MSNBC saying Trump is a beast they can't beat him so what is the plan? Let's go to the Council on Foreign Relations shall we? They usually have some ideas when they're around drinking in the club Jane Harman

1:47:08 stands up and asks a question of a panel discussing this very issue, and she injects some interesting concepts. So we haven't talked about any potentially catastrophic events that could happen between now and the election such as another major terrorist attack, major 9-11 style attack which maybe not that but close enough or massive Russian disinformation campaign clearly identified but massive really creating doubt in many states about whether the election was fair and who voted and all that. If those things happen

1:47:47 Especially given the fact that we have acting everybody in the Homeland Department and so on. How does that affect the election? What do you think of this, what do you think of what how does her brain even work? Well obviously the only thing that could still disrupt this is you know like a 9-11, not exactly but kind of like a 9-11 style attack where lots of people dead and or you know the Russians actually changed the votes. Why does this woman even think this way? This is... Anyway, there was... She's always creeped me out. I think she's a reptile for sure. Here is the answer! Great question. Great question? On the terrorist side of that question, a lot would depend upon what happened and how it happened, how close to the election who is seen as being responsible for it. Is it clear, for example if the administration failed in some way or failed with its immediate response so there are a lot of factors

1:48:47 that would play it out. But going back to this issue of whether doubts are raised about the legitimacy of the vote totals, if you were asking sort of look at one wild card that could really unsettle American politics I think its exactly that and you don't actually need to have anyone penetrate a electoral rolls or to change the vote if people believe perhaps because of disinformation that somehow a vote count wasn't actually accurate and that would matter obviously the most if you have a very close election I mean imagine a state in which

1:49:24 it holds the balance in electoral college of a less than 1% margin and there are questions raised about whether the votes were accurately tallied. That would be, I think, a problem that would have a very long shelf life which is why i would hope that we as a country would have taken much greater steps to ensure our election security. Now it's just a drinking club they're just you know shooting the breeze shooting from the hip they're just spitballing But, you know that would be an obvious tactic is to say the Russians change the actual votes. Take us back to hanging chads and stuff like that... And then manual counts and recounts so you can just see it coming down Broadway they're coming up with another truly disinformation

1:50:19 You know, there's something else going on parallel to this which is I haven't put in you know the analyze it well. But everybody and their sister is going after Zuckerberg. Yeah even Biden said he doesn't like Zucker... Berg. They- It's always the lefties! The right wing has like said well you know whatever They don't like Facebook, they don't like its influence. But the left seems to be adamant about... and it seems to go like this I don't understand why Zuckerberg isn't with us. Us! Like the Google boys are. Well can i just because I actually watched two hours of anti-trust hearings which have a clip for maybe after the second half

1:51:11 The main issue seems to be that Facebag has decided not to censor or take down political ads that may not be factually correct. In fact, the New York Times wrote—and I have it in the show notes somewhere, I'll paraphrase it—New York Times wrote, while Donald Trump blatantly lies in ads about Joe Biden, face bags not taking it down. So I think that's where a lot of this anger stems from. Yeah, I think there's well they're definitely to but that's again they're targeting him too the New York Times is talking now at me the thing that can't be overlooked when you discuss The New York Times or even The Washington Post or any of them targeting Facebook is because Facebook is eating their advertising lunch and also stealing money from

1:52:10 boys. Well also you know where Twitter, the dumbbells that they are said we're not going to do any political ads during the season I mean, that is the number one advertising event in the United States is an election. Election season billions of dollars billions mainly going online now and at least 70% I think it's gonna be spent online Dumb bells. That's about it. Yeah, oh we're not gonna take any money Oh No Jack Dorsey had to go to be asked Elon Musk What do you think? What would you do if you ran my company and what did the Ilan say I can't remember It wasn't anything serious. So it was not memorable. Oh man. Oh, yeah II know what he said Elon said get rid of all the bots and you'll be fine Hmm

1:53:05 But this that wasn't serious to me. No, but yeah It is a dumbbell if he doesn't want it give me political advertising is the is a bonanza it is The less moonves investor call a couple number years ago where he goes on and on bragging about how much money they made during the last election cycle let's Let's go So play that clip. The advertising climate couldn't be better right now and I've never seen it this hot for a number of years third quarter scatter was phenomenally good and fourth is even better than that so as the year ends and we move into 16 guess what in 16, We have an extra AFC champion playoff game. We have the Super Bowl and we have a year of political advertising

1:53:50 that looks like it's shaping up to be pretty phenomenal. You know, we love having all 16 Republican candidates throwing crap at each other. It's great the more they spend the better it is for us and go Donald keep getting out there and you know this is fun! Watching this let them spend money on us and we love having them in there We're looking forward to a very exciting political year in 16 Isn't it interesting that Les Moonves got hashtag me tood. Yep after saying that Donald next thing you know he's out he's out oh Yeah, I'll show you Watch the name one of the women who he Costed or anything is there anybody that you can think of? No yeah, it was One of the older women it was like in her. I think she's in our mid 50s and then same age as me

1:54:45 And she was in accounting or something or within the company, but apparently he'd he was quite the yeah The mover and shaker within the corporation. Yeah well had to go yeah He had to go but that's exactly it and you know so here's Jack Dorsey no we won't take your money Okay short face bag I mean Twitter and they just keep it But yeah, well you know whatever is ever blah blah. If you don't like what these guys are advertising do some advertising of your own since it came up there was an antitrust hearing

1:55:29 It was several hours and it was held in Colorado for some reason. Apparently they had these trials in the field I think they call them, and so they bring in people... And it was against Apple? There's a software guy who is like oh you know Apple we can't We can't really even do it and make money off of our software. Apple wants 30% from the App Store, if we even put a link in the app you know they may take it off you know that they have too much power to which I say well their phone their system go make a phone Google of course was under the gun The most interesting thing I think was Amazon who is really turning out to be a true evil corp

1:56:11 And we've discussed this again just when this is the the CEO his name is Barnett of popsockets and popsocket the that's the phone case you put on your smartphone and then the button pops out so you can hold on to it. It's very popular with women, so they can walk around shopping with their bags with the... There is a bunch of these. Well right so there's the original popsockets which is patented trademark but patented for sure And you know, this is a big item like 170 million units sold. But this guy explains how Amazon operates and well it's not that long I'll play this and then we can discuss it if necessary So we started our direct relationship with Amazon about a year-and-a-half into business so the middle of 2016

1:57:07 We started selling product to Amazon. Amazon in turn would sell our product on the marketplace It was immensely successful within five months, Amazon became our largest customer and we became one of Amazon's most significant players in the mobile electronics accessory category PopSockets was the number three search term at some point on Amazon So we had immense success, but despite the success we never felt like we had a genuine partnership with Amazon. The problem of counterfeits is the first problem I'll talk about

1:57:45 We had enormous amounts of fake product that were taking our sales, creating bad customer experiences. And of course it was illegal activity on behalf of those selling them and when Amazon was the seller, Amazon was clearly engaged in this illegal activity and multiple times we discovered that Amazon itself had sourced counterfeit product and was selling it alongside our own product For a year-and-a-half we requested that Amazon take some action some serious action and just require evidence from sellers that they were selling authentic product. After a year and half, finally in exchange for about 1.8 million dollars of retail marketing funds which my team deemed ineffective

1:58:31 Amazon agreed to work with their brand registry department to require this evidence. So, the way it works now on Amazon is if you want to actually have your product in this case the guy's original product not imitation If you want that to even show up You have to buy ads on Amazon And these guys I mean it's pretty brazen what they're doing It's like oh okay so we have a store and you're in the store, and then you're very popular in the store. Then we are going to promote other products either like yours or complete rip-offs illegal product And if you don't like it well we can change that but you have to advertise It's advertising for Amazon's own store! This is genius! This truly evil corp! It's pretty bad yeah Oh my goodness These kinds of business scams which are pretty hard to regulate

1:59:28 I don't know what you do about it. I mean, are you going to stop shopping at Amazon because they pull stunts like this? Or just... or are you gonna try and make yourself aware so that you don't buy the scam product? They sell all kinds of crazy stuff that is no good! I remember there was a company selling memory sticks When you plug them in, it says you got two gigabytes but it's only like 128 megs because there was some trick that was going on. And they sold lots of them before they took him off the market. I'm reminded of the book publishing business which i was involved in enough so that when Pearson Publishing started buying up all the computer presses, they bought all of them. They bought Prentice Hall about Macmillan and they own Q and if you had a bestseller if you had wrote a book that was like a real hot book

2:00:20 they would have Q do a kind of copy or clone of the book and then they would promote that because with Q it was all, all the writers were just paid per book. They were never paid royalties. So you got a guy making a lot of money on royalties well let's just shove our interest over to the Q Book where nobody is getting any royalties we sell more books and then it would put their promotion behind the Q Book This sort of thing goes on constantly in business. It's horrible, Microsoft used to be known for stealing people's ideas and making kind of cheap copies of them and putting people out of business. Right well in this case though people have put all their trust and their product and everything into Amazon and it's putting businesses brick-and-mortar businesses out of business

2:01:12 You know, people will have to start learning to support businesses directly I guess if they want them to stick around otherwise these things will go away. That's just the market forces going away there's the public isn't... The public's conscientiousness is lacking yeah Oh my god, no more pop holders. What will we do? What will we do?! I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda! Imagine all the people who could do that... Oh yeah that'd be fab! And unlike Amazon, we have a few people to thank for supporting our show and keeping it going Kyle Cook at the top of the list in Norman Oklahoma

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2:10:27 It's like a party! That's right, the No Agenda meetups are worldwide. They are global and I'd like to give you the list of upcoming meetups You can find them all at noagendameetups.com But first let's listen to some MeetUp reports We liked these when people do them we had very successful meet ups in the past couple of days We head over to New York City This is Athena and Alex reporting from FEMA Region 2. Thanks for coming! Yo, it's Mike the boy in Bushwick and it's definitely like a party! Hello, it's Vernon from Gramercy Park. Post? AnonymousO from Brooklyn and thank you for your courage everything you're doing is public health service. Thank You SirAlex, Knight of the White Mountains donate douchebags Hi! Your monster, Alex Oh yeah

2:11:21 Hi. Hi! Jaron from New Jersey, we're number one. Hi, it's Winnie from Syracuse I drove 500 miles for this. This is Dame Tanya from the Snowstorm NYC meetup and i'm going to try and do a live Little Girl Yay. Yayyyy! Dan Franco from the Bronx in the morning 9 o'clock somewhere Jen Franco from the Bronx It's true! Jeff from Manhattan in the morning In the morning, McGill represent minorities. Thank you! I'm Tom Starkweather and I'm over here with... This is Nick The Rat coming to you live from the No Gender Show! This is David Raymer who has a monthly! And this our friend we just hit in the mouth. Thank you. I appreciate that I still have my teeth. It's like a party!

2:12:13 What a great group. And where else can you get a group as diverse that we have people with different accents from different countries, We have our minority representation I mean this is this is a great representation of a No Agenda Meetup People from all ages All backgrounds All creeds Race Religion You name it! NO triggering...you can't be triggered because the amygdalas are small and you just hang out and have a good time together and I loved hearing that one so that was our New York City meet up Let's do another one. The Charlotte Meetup and some of the pictures that are posted online are phenomenal, this is another great group. Hey Crackpot and Buzzkill this is Bill Cameron the organizer of the Charlotte meet up bill is spelled B-Y-L and we're here with our creaky chairs and noise makers so in the morning

2:13:02 A lot of good times, about 20 folks showed. So here's Sir Euchre Hey this is Dave Sir Euchar in the morning Robert Case from Mill Springs North Carolina in the morning Hey John and Adam it's Sir Haymoose Good turnout in the crowd today and I'd like to lay down the gauntlet I'll pay you extra $100 for my next donation if John can guess from our photographs which ones have had a vasectomy In the morning gentlemen This is Sir Bill Love the Rock avoiding a six and half week year old in the morning. This is Sir Cycle Path, In the morning. In the morning this is Sir Kevin Dills of I count of Charlotte. Elise? In the morning? Ben! In the morning...I am a douchebag but we're fixing that soon

2:13:48 Hey Rick, uh, search you onto Simpo. I'm the Chinese token minority of the group so... Chinese asshole! Yeah. In the morning, this is Bill Hello from Allie Jane Alright All right, so we've listened to this. We're in Charlotte. Hey man I'm the token Chinese guy and they were like China's asshole did anyone freak out? No! In the end Ali Jade is the no agenda official no-agenda tranny This is beautiful This is exactly what the social justice wokeness warriors want the world to be guess What we just we just are not triggered by all the nutsack stuff that you guys are putting out there It seems to be okay people can actually hang out and have a good time The Charlotte meetup fantastic in John. You have a challenge I see for an extra $100 donation you need to spot the spot the snipped

2:14:44 Well, I just probably...I looked at the photos already. Uh-huh And there's probably about uh..I'd say three guys maybe that are possibles Oh Will you mark it up and post it online? I think you should do like a little... I don't want to embarrass myself No no yeah! You should do like with a white circle. You know Circle their groin area and the facial features I'll take another look Alright, here's what happening meetup wise. We're looking at next Friday for the 24th Oregon Local 33 at 630. The Grand Duke of Pacific Northwest proclaims another joint meetup so make sure you go to local bar 33 in Brooklyn Portland next Saturday

2:15:28 Local 406 Montana, 4 o'clock is the inaugural meetup. So the first time in Montana at the Conflux Brewing Christopher Raymer is your host Also next Saturday The 816 edition that's also a brand new meetup in Kansas City Missouri Dame DeLorean and Sir Spencer Wolf of Kansas City have decided to organize the first one at the RINO in North Kansas City. Atlanta local 404-333 Eastern Time, that will be Saturday next Saturday or this coming Saturday I guess needed to give the beloved Alisa a send-off as she embarks on her whirlwind tour of Gitmo Nation Asia and the Eurolands. Contact Mark for venue details but it'll be on noagenda meetups dot com also next Saturday New England winter meetup that will be FEMA region ones meet up at the Wachusett brewery, The Brew Yard in scenic Westminster Massachusetts nuts Moscow Russia

2:16:23 We have Gareth Kuchinkas, I believe who invites a burger and beer with fellow NOA Agenda listeners in Moscow Russia two o'clock on Saturday the 25th. Sunday the 26, the Philly Local 76 inaugural meetup a new meetup as well. The slaves of FEMA Region 3 are invited to the Southeast PA Meet-Up it'll be at the Philadelphia Brewing Company, Scatman of Norristown hosting that and Alexandria Virginia will be the meetup a next Sunday. Trademark Drink and Eat is the new location, Sir William of West Pensylvania is your host for that reminder the 21st February The Keeper and I will be in Delray Beach in Florida and looking forward to that meet up No Agenda Meetups it's like a party! noagendameetups.com and thank you all for participating. You know what's noteworthy?

2:17:20 is that this whole thing, especially with some of these great meetups where you like in Charlotte where you had 20 people and New York had about the same. Is that before noagendameetups.com this wasn't possible using the free services that are just junk from MeetUps. I remember when I went to a couple of meetups that were going through the old meetups.com and you'd go over to the sites, oh you didn't sign up fast enough! You need to do this, you gotta do that, you gotta jump through hoops because it's all arbitrary because you weren't calling the shots yourself these guys had a bunch of arbitrary rules on what they had to do and all the rest of it was just barriers so you couldn't really do a lot of meetups cause

2:18:11 It was just too rigid, it was too restrictive. There's no agenda meetups and doing stuff yourself this is why we have our own servers for the show. And I'd just like to mention this is another excellent example of the value-for-value system or value-for-value network Daniel Tomasz Set up noagendameetups.com and you know, that's his contribution And he took away all the headache and look at the result I cannot agree with you more and mentioning him We might as well mention Mimi who does probably a lot to more work than she should but Definitely need to mention Mimi are kidding me? Yeah But the point is is that this is the kind of thing that it just shows you that if you

2:18:59 If you don't, you go into these Silicon Valley ideas and just following along as Gmail and meetups.com and all these other systems that... And they always end up failing at some point leaving you in the lurch. I mean this is what bothers me about LinkedIn Yeah, I mean LinkedIn when i first joined them you could download your contact list and maybe use it in a in your own address system or whatever you wanted to do. And they would have the email addresses they stopped giving you the email addresses of your own contacts! When you're doing download you don't get anything

2:19:35 For years all we do is install apps that say I would like access to your contacts. Is that okay? For years, we've been giving Silicon Valley our contact and now they're saying no backseas! Yeah Douchebags. LinkedIn is a pathetic shell of itself because of that one factor and I would not advise people to join it even though they're not gonna stop because it's a good way to you know build up a lot of people following your name falling down pick up chicks yeah yeah um there was an interesting article in the New York Times which was shared widely

2:20:19 And I'm, and most No Agenda producers were not surprised by this but the rest of the world suddenly figured out that wait a minute it's very easy to figure out who you are based on facial recognition. In fact The New York Times even wrote this secretive company that might end privacy as we know it! Oh brother. Facebag, probably LinkedIn if I'm sure you can scrape some. YouTube Venmo all kinds of sites to gather when you have a party ladies i'm looking at you and take a selfie with your squad and then tag everybody so this company went in and said oh look there's a photo with tags people

2:21:14 And then put it in their database, you posted it online so is very appropriate for them to use that and store that in their database. Using very simple facial recognition you can just say hey here's a photo of someone we got off a closed circuit TV whatever it is, you put into the machine And it then spits out your name and links to everywhere that your name has appeared on Facebook, YouTube Twitter etc. etc., Instagram... And 600 law enforcement agencies are using this! And apparently the New York Times was surprised as were many people What?! The Contra Costa? You gave the information to the world and now- I love that headline Secretive company Is not a secretive company

2:22:04 The guy's name is Ton-Tot. Hon-Huan Ton-Tot! And he just threw it together. Yeah, so simple It was an obvious thing to do Why is this a big shock to anybody? You have to be very naive Who was the tech writer who wrote that? What was...who..who was that? Hold on let me check it out The write...the tech...tech writer Tech writer...the tech writer Kashmir Hill Hmm Who's Kashmir Hill I've never heard of him, be sure. Kashmir Hill is a tech reporter based in New York she writes about the unexpected and sometimes ominous ways technology is changing our lives particularly when it comes to our privacy! She joined The New York Times in 2019 after having worked as an investigative reporter at Gizmodo Media Group and a writer... Oh, Gizmodo Investigator Group

2:22:58 Editor at Fusion. Her writing has appeared in the New Yorker and the Washington Times, oh she gave a TED talk In 2018 she gave it... 10 or TEDx? It just says TED Talk. What your smart devices know and share about you, in which she described what happened... Did TED talks have devolved into that?! ...in which she described what happened when she transformed her apartment into a Smart Home and monitored the data being sent out of it. Well let's see! She may be lying about that. Let's see if it was a TED talk or TEDx Because that would be funny. It could just be TED for women, there's TED for women What is that? That's another little offshoot Oh no it is... No let me see here it is Let's see Is this a Ted? No! It's a proper Ted! It's a proper Ted, it's a Ted Proper Not a TedX Did she get a Ted Talk to discuss the mundane and the banal? Yep She got it Last year even

2:24:01 Wow. Yeah, or no a year ago 8-2018 yeah? Anyway, Ted talks about you know worms growing in your walls or something more interesting. Now the European Union is looking at a temporary ban on facial recognition in public places this is good In fact a lot of countries are doing much better than we are I got it a note from one of our producers who is in the field of RBA robotics process automation which I cavalierly called screen scraping

2:24:39 This goes back to the company Plaid, which all of your financial apps are tied into. The way they manage your bank account is by you stupidly enough giving your login and password to the company so that they can then do anything they want profiled... They could do anything that you can do in front of your computer logging in yourself. They, in fact they replicate the human being a few things he wanted to share with us this tech is far beyond screen scraping the tools are capable of using image recognition optical character recognition handwriting recognition neuro linguistic programming to some degree machine learning to simulate a human user as much as possible popular platforms are blue prism

2:25:30 UiPath, Automation Anywhere. But now Microsoft is also entering the field So what can they do given access to an account with credentials? Absolutely anything the user can do and likely more with permission from the target company which would be your bank They're not defeated by Citrix environment automation prevention measures, although they are slowed by it. They can use everything we mentioned as well as DOM which is document object model manipulation JavaScript injection APIs Anything you can think of they can use this data or a data connector Australia interestingly Has legislated against this they are

2:26:17 It's called the consumer data right. Under this legislation, eventually all industries not just banks will need to create standard APIs that give customers the right to share their data with the apps The legislation gives the customer the right to explicitly control what data is shared, what it is used for and they can require to be deleted at any time. Of course this is not possible with Plaid even if you leave them they'll still have... By the way I think the easy way to get rid of if you don't.. If you want to make sure that Plaid can't log into your bank account is change your password

2:26:54 and put in two-factor authentication, that seems to stop them dead in their tracks. Now you won't be able to use Venmo, Cash App, Robinhood, Acorns, Coinbase... everything that you do money with on your phone but I think the No Agenda Show would recommend this is a good thing to do as to lead... I have a really good idea for people who need it do this kind of thing Okay Actually carry cash! Still there, still available. It's old-fashioned. What? You're going to give cash to your buddies to settle the bill of drinks? No no we can't have that. Cash and keep a couple of hundoes in your wallet you look like a big shot! We missed our opportunity once again even though...we should've both understood this I'm very mad. Mad our exit strategy once again been thwarted. We've been usurped were idiots. We learned years ago

2:27:53 that every single website that performs a public service does not necessarily have to be a non-profit or governmental website but a public service would have to have everything annotated for the death which means all videos need to have subtitles. There's more than needs this is Americans with Disabilities Act regulations and we've already seen companies getting sued over this Can you believe that we missed this one? A deaf man filed a lawsuit against Pornhub. Yeah, he said and I think-I think he can make this stand up in court to coin the phrase. And that will...can you imagine how much work there will be to create all of these all porn videos make sure they have subtitles and we also have

2:28:56 ADA regulations for the blind. You need to have man walks in with pizza, woman opens door scantily clad that has to be and that's gonna be a law it's gonna be a regulation yeah I agree we should have been suing them this way this has no agenda written all over you in particular I happen to have hearing aids its just a coincidence! I can't hear it...I need help Yeah, we missed the boat. I do have a clip blitz for the end of show if you want yeah actually let's That's that's the clip Blitz wheel Wow All right best start with Putin stays in office

2:30:04 Russia's government abruptly resigned today after President Vladimir Putin proposed sweeping changes to his country's constitution that could keep him in power after his term ends in 2024. The amendment would also give the Russian parliament greater authority In his State of the Nation speech in Moscow, Putin insisted that his overall proposal followed the law. The amendments do not affect the fundamental bases of our Constitution which means they can be approved by Parliament within the framework of the current law through the adoption of corresponding constitutional laws

2:30:42 Hours later, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and his entire Cabinet quit. Putin tapped Mikhail Mishutin who is head of the Russian tax service to be the next prime minister. Me Too in China. A journalist and leading activist in China's fledgling Me Too movement was freed today after three months Human Rights Watch said that 30-year old Sophia Wong Shuen Chin had been detained on a charge known as suspicion of provoking trouble She had reported on the me too movement, on sexual harassment in the Chinese workplace and on the protests in Hong Kong

2:31:26 flu in Kansas City. Oh shoot! I'm sorry, I dropped your clip The flu is affecting children particularly hard this season a rare strain of the virus is going around and it is proving deadly KCTV5's Casey Jones is live and she's been investigating exactly why this year the season seems to be so bad She's live now from Children's Mercy on Broadway Casey Here at Children's Mercy, they've been seeing a lot of type B flu cases. That is right on trend with national numbers Most deaths and hospitalizations in children have been linked to this type B So doctors say to reduce your likelihood of ending up here A vaccine is the answer

2:32:19 Lunar New Year celebration. Millions of Chinese began heading home today in the world's largest annual human migration Travelers crowded train stations and airports bound for reunions with family so they can celebrate the lunar new year together on January 25th Was that it? One more China population up-and-down In China, officials announced that the population grew again last year to 1.4 billion even though the birth rate actually fell to its lowest level in 70 years Meanwhile, the working age population declined but the number of those over 60 grew They now make up 18% of the total Chinese population It's another no agenda

2:33:11 That's it, ladies and gentlemen. Our clip billets for January 19th 2020! You are up to date with all the news that matters in our Cliiiiiiip Bliiiiiits! You know what's kind of funny about one of the clips? There was a lot from obviously Judy on PBS, but was the one about and I didn't notice this until I just heard it. Which is this concept that when they celebrate Chinese New Year they have a big migration. Yes people will go to party But the wordage is their heading home

2:33:51 Now, normally when you're celebrating something... Say we were going to celebrate something. You'd go out? Go out! You go out?! Yeah The beginning of the migration is not heading home so that implies that all these millions of Chinese that are gonna go celebrate Lunar New Year aren't home they're all in some apartment or someplace just anywhere but home They at Foxconn Yeah, there are Foxconn where there's a million employees. They're trying not to look into the nets that'll catch them if they jump out of window. It's unbelievable I do want to bring us up to speed on let's see

2:34:39 There were actually some good hearings. So, you know the Colorado antitrust hearing was it was kind of boring It was offside. It was a you know the hearing in the field but there was also a hearing about Afghanistan now apparently we're very close to or according to the Taliban who have tweeted, what a time we live in. The Taliban has tweeted that looks like we're ready to sign a deal sometime this coming week. The president has been talking about this but of course we've been too busy with Trump and Lev and cronies and Giuliani

2:35:19 Here's a report, it is one of the few reports I could find about what was going on with the inspector general. We know the Afghan papers came out, the war has cost trillions of dollars, immeasurable value in lives, everyone's been lying we've been shafted horrifically by three presidents now this will be the third one nobody seems to care because Trump orange man bad here's the voice of America's report John Sopko inspector general of an independent government watchdog created by Congress to combat waste and abuse in the US reconstruction effort

2:35:58 in Afghanistan, told the House Foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday a persistent incentive to lie about the progress on the ground hurt U.S. efforts in Afghanistan. You create from the bottom up an incentive because of short time frames you're there for six months nine months or year to show success. That gets reported up the chain and before you know it, the president is talking about a success that doesn't exist and I think that's a good issue to look at not whether there was lying but why? The hearing comes one month after Washington Post report that government officials misled the public about US gains in Afghanistan for years and hid evidence that the war had become unwinnable

2:36:44 The newspaper cited Seaguar documents as evidence. But Richard Boucher, who served as Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia during the Bush administration says there was no deliberate deception. I think all this tried to tell the truth in terms of what was going on in the war and the difficulties that we were facing the difficulties of getting things done in a chaotic situation like the one in Afghanistan. Despite notable failures, experts say a rash exit from the region could lead to deadlier outcomes We're at a stage where we know we want to withdraw but we want to do it responsibly and that requires a negotiation process The Trump administration has been negotiating a peace agreement with the Taliban to finally bring the war to an end Well...we shall see

2:37:32 But it's very upsetting that no one, certainly not the media who holds government accountable they don't seem to give a crap about it. I mean there are hearings going on, there are clips for the grabbing There is people to talk too you can interview people It just like oh ho hum You know how that goes silly old government dickheads Yeah, that's pretty much a summary there that you nailed. You got anything for before we leave? You want something funny or interesting? Yeah, this is kind of funny and kind of interesting This is the story comes out of Kansas City It's actually I think it's really taking place in Iowa But this is the trial by combat guy

2:38:21 Tonight a payola man is making headlines all over the world He's proposed throwing out a judge's gavel and settling a custody battle with swords He's asking a judge for trial by combat. You heard that right? And KCTV 5 Betsy Webster tracked him down I demand trial by combat We can all thank Game of Thrones for bringing attention to the phrase trial by combat. I've seen the television show and read the books That's what payola's David Ostrom had in mind when he submitted these court filings in Iowa over a protracted child custody and money battle

2:38:56 The attention grabber, petitioner demands the court sanction trial by combat to resolve these disputes. I'm not interested in physically causing harm to anyone. He says he's not violent or crazy but frustrated by what he considers a system that in some counties specifically in his case he says is stacked against men when it comes to issues of custody and financial support They've tried to ignore me, not address equal custody And I think this puts a spotlight on them. I saw the report about five minutes long, but apparently this guy's You can't get any attention. So he's done this and now it's become a big issue in it and Iowa was being examined for being unfair to men Brother brother It just one of those eye roller things like okay that was its clickbait click bait It's this is how we do click bait on the know agenda show We do it at the end of the show

2:39:58 Yeah. So there's no benefit to us, just clickbait and that's our deconstruction for today as we head towards the second half of the first month of 2020 looking forward to seeing y'all back here again on Thursday and please remember that we need your support Dvorak.org slash NA And coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. FEMA Region No. 6 on the governmental maps in case you're looking for my coffin. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where again I'll say it one more time Go Niners! I don't know why you say go niners when clearly the was it that was the Kansas City guys what's their name? The Trojans...The Titans...Go Titans!

2:40:58 Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA Until next time adios mofos and such Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself Ah yes, end of show mixes both by Sir Chris Wilson The man is a force to be reckoned with Grumpy old Ben's next on the stream Adios Mofos A long long time ago I knew back then that articles of impeachment would be filed And i knew if i had the chance with all of his incoherent rants That maybe in a long shot he'd resign But Mueller's report made me shiver With every finding it delivered Conviction was elusive

2:42:05 The evidence inconclusive I can't remember if i cried When the Ukraine call leaked from inside I handed out those pens with pride The day the impeachment was signed I bade to the orange bad guy, I took this letter to the Senate cos' the President lied And them good old boys from Ukraine were bright Singing this is the impeachment I signed This is the impeachment I signed

2:42:56 It's a hoax, everybody knows that. As you know on December 18th the House of Representatives upheld its constitutional duty and voted articles of impeachment against the President of The United States Donald Trump When I find that Donald Trump is in trouble Speaker Nancy comes to me signing off for Congress Let's impeach Glued to the Senate now she's signed off on everything There will be a hearing Let's impeach, let's impeach, let's impeach, let's impeach Donald's got to go now. Let's impeach

2:43:54 And when the broken-hearted people watch it all on NBC, They will be rejoicing. Let's impeach! For though it may be boring there is still a chance that they will see Donald Trump's impeachment. Let's impeach! Let's impeach, let's impeach, let's impeach, lets impeach There will be a hearing. Lets impeach! Lets impeach, lets impeach, lets impeach, lets impeach Donald Trumps impeachment. Lets impeach

2:44:55 We're here on the 18th of April in 75. Harley Man is now alive, remember that famous day and year? It's always about marking history using time. On December 18th House representatives impeached the President of The United States an impeachment that will last forever Let's impeach, let's impeach There will be a hearing And when Mike Pence is left in charge We'll find something to hang on here For his own impeachment

2:45:52 And after this election you'll see Democrats run everything No more opposition to MPs Let's impeach, let's impeach, let's impeach, lets impeach There will be a hearing. Lets impeach! Lets impeach, lets impeach, lets impeach, lets impeach Donald Trumps impeachment, lets impeach

2:46:34 It's a hoax. It's a hoax, everybody knows that it's a complete hoax. The best podcast in the universe! Yes science