1:38:15 James and Luna is this poor kid's first name. Let's play this story in its entirety, kind of as the most important part start with the intro. You're a boy right? No I'm a girl Who told you you were a girl? Mommy Gender identity is something children as young as three are unlikely to have heard of. Yet some it seems have a clear understanding of who they want to be and are now caught in the bitter crossfire debate about whether sex change therapy should be available for the young and vulnerable While celebrities offer support in the forefront, calling it necessary treatment experts argue about whether such progress really will improve thousands of people's lives
1:38:58 or represent a dangerous trend for humanity. And John may ask, where did this come from? This wonderfully announced report? I don't know where that voice came from but this is from RT because nobody else wants to report it although there's some reporting going on of it mostly in the- on the blogs but let's play the kind of lengthy...I didn't know this clip was this long but let's play James Luna Story 1 very well Produced well not well produced but well worth listening to Jeff Younger is father of the seven-year old James Jeff welcome to the show. It's great to have you with us Thanks for agreeing. Well, you could have left all that off To talk to us. Thank you for a good of your welcome Thank you for having me on so your story has sparked a huge debate all around world at the very beginning when your son James first told you that he was a girl and
1:39:52 What was your reaction? I mean, were you taken aback? Did you take it seriously? I took it very seriously because I had some information when I was still living with Ann Georgulas my ex-wife. She had been putting him into timeouts and saying things like the monsters only eat boys and some odd things like that. So when I heard this I took it very seriously He said, Mommy tells me I'm a girl. And I would ask him do you look like a girl? And he'd say no but mommy tells me I'm a girl You know, he's never presented himself as a girl to me ever. And in fact with me, he violently rejects any female identity He won't wear female clothes. He won't even wear boys brief underwears because it says it is too much like girls underwear So basically leaving this bi-polar life right now? Is he boy when he's with you and what forced him to dress like a girl or does he dressed like a girl by his own will when he was with mom
1:40:52 I believe he dresses by his own will when he's with his mother. I just don't think that she'll love him if he is a boy, but he dresses as a boy at her house as well." Does she somehow tell him not to dress like a boy if he wants to dress like one? Um...I've only been in public with him twice and on both cases when I brought boys clothes his mother was extremely disapproving and in one case Pulled him out of my arms and I had to let him go so that he wouldn't get hurt so that He wouldn't be allowed to put on boys clothes So James told you knows that she disapproves of it strongly. So James told you that his mother dresses him in girls clothing Uses hair clips puts nail polish on him It was my immediate reaction Would be to get in touch with his mom and ask why I mean, did you do that?
1:41:50 Why was... what was Anne's explanation? I mean, did you have a talk about it? Well first of all i just wanted to verify and I sent her text and said you know are you actually telling James that he is a girl she just replied simply yes and then refused to talk me about it. The next time that became an issue when he had his sort coming out party she took him to his fifth birthday party in a dress She just essentially wouldn't speak to me about it But is it normal that, because you're just as much of a parent as she is. Is it normal that yes isn't an answer enough for your son to be heading towards gender change?
1:42:32 No, it's absolutely not normal. I'm a joint managing conservator in Texas and that means that we share parental rights but there was one key parental right that the court did not give me and it was the right to consent to psychiatric and psychological treatment And that's kind of how she's gotten around this she's saying that this is Psychiatric treatment and so I have no rights regarding this issue with my son So I have been following this story. It's a Texas story There's a lot of background we don't know which unfortunately wasn't in that three and a half minutes you dragged us through We don't really know what their when it was these parents are separated, which makes it a very different situation than two loving parents together with the child Putting them through this but I'm sure you have your reasons so I'll be quiet
1:43:25 Should mention the kids a twin which is not discussed in any of these reports didn't okay? Twin that boy twin or boy girl twins mm-hmm. The other kid is Joshua I believe his name is the woman, which makes us really creepy as a licensed pediatrician and there you go who Who runs a clinic with another woman in this little town caught some little bird in texas and she has a website i'm surprised hasn't been docked more. She's a website and she seems like it looks kinda normal to me she doesn't have that she is like weird looking,
1:44:04 But this issue is very strange. I think maybe, I don't know if she wanted a girl and she decided that she's going to make one of the boys into a girl because they're another boy what difference does it make? I'm not sure part three of this...I want to play that which is a short clip but kind of gets to the point then I have an article which I'll just read at the end then we can talk about it James has been dressed as a girl his name was changed to Luna He attends the girls bathroom at school. So if everything goes ahead like James's mother wants, your seven-year old boy will be given puberty blocking hormones and in a couple of years will undergo sex change surgery. I mean it is kind of hard to ask but how does it make you feel?
1:44:55 Look, I consider this to be child abuse and the sexual mutilation of children on an industrial scale. So it makes me feel terrible. Um...I can't believe that a mother would do this to her son And I cannot believe that the state of Texas would allow it and sanction it But we have clinics right here in Texas that do sex changes on children all the time So your ex-wife is accusing you of child abuse towards James. What exactly is she implying by abuse? She's saying that it's psychologically abusive to James, that I will not affirm his fake female identity and she has gone to court and filed what's called a motion to modify. It's a thinly veiled parental termination request
1:45:40 saying that I have to go to a transgender education class if i don't attend the class or achieve satisfactory marks then I can be jailed for contempt. I could be jailed if I use male pronouns for James, show him in public as a boy, or cut his hair in a boy's hairstyle So I have a clip here from or not except but the headline read this. Texas jury blocks dad from stopping seven year old sons chemically castrated transgender transition
1:46:17 And apparently this took place with a consensus of 11 or 12 jurors. The jury decided not to grant Mr. Younger sole managing conservatorship over his two twin boys, they voted the current joint managing conservatorship should be replaced by a sole managing conservatorship but Mr. Younger would not be that person. Judge Kim Cooks We'll read her ruling on possession, child support and so on. Apparently guys pay child support even though Dr. Geo Gulas if you want to look her up other requests anyway it goes on and this is the most this is a very disturbing situation and it's taking place in Texas please explain