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00:00 Dark Mode is here. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, September 19th, 2019. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1174. This is no agenda. Being scrubbed slowly and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, I see a yellow truck. I'm John C. Dvorak. Okay, is it a big yellow truck? Is it that'd be a nice contrast your spiel? Is it a dump truck? It was a small pickup truck as a matter of fact and now that I think about as I look out and I can see I can look out and And see the freeway. Mm-hmm

00:55 I don't see anything but gray and black and the occasional red white. What car colors? I saw one blue, gray gray gray gray gray gray black black black gray black black white. I mean it's dull out there. John. So this yellow truck stands out like a sore thumb. Did men in white coats get out of that truck in front of your house? It's just so boring to see these. I mean, what can't they? Back in I was a kid in the 50s. They used to have three-tone cars. Whoo. Oh, yeah. Yeah tan roof Well, I'm sad to report and I'm pretty sure now and I and I I wouldn't call it shadow banning but the new Twitter algorithms are

01:48 are definitely screwing with me and I attribute that to the fact that I have no blue checkmark and I can see it. I post something normally within five minutes there might be 10, 20 retweets or likes. Now, 2, 3, maybe. I retweet myself. Maybe one or two pick up. All kinds of reports of people even entering at Adam Curry in the search box doesn't autocomplete. So I think the... and by the way, I'm not seeing a lot of people either. I never see Scott Adams anymore.

02:27 Not that you know, it's that much of a none of this is a really a problem for me But when it comes to the show like announcing the show and you know just announcements It's not working for us anymore here. Let me see what I got now on the bat signal. Let's see So we have how many people we have in the we've got 763 trolls and Looks like four retweets. Come on. I So, I don't call it shadow banning, I don't think that's what it is. This is just the algorithms like, oh, this guy... Let me help you out with that. Okay. I can't do it now because it's real complicated, but I will walk you through a process to make your life, to make this less of an issue. There's a process? Yeah. No, no.

03:21 It doesn't this what did it just tell me simply what is the process? I don't believe it I think this is just how they're out going to the settings and you got it You got to take a look at what Twitter has determined that are your interests? Oh, no, I understand I can change it uncheck a million boxes. Have you done that? Have you unchecked any box? Well, then what happens I see more of who I want to see I want people to see me I No, it changes, it's like the boxes that are checked are representing milieu. Oh, I'm in the wrong milieu, I see. Well, you know, yeah, maybe you've got a solution now, but this is not a... I'm not saying this is a good thing, I mean even the solution is like sketchy. Right.

04:15 It does help a little bit. Well, this is why I'm going to suggest two things. First of all, after today's show, I will post in the show notes an invitation link to noagendasocial.com. I mean, this is clearly we need to have some mechanism so you can get all kinds of apps and they can give you alerts when I'm posting. There's all kinds of stuff we can do because Twitter is over for us. And yeah, so maybe now I can change my perceived milieu. I don't know what I have to check. Or uncheck. Yeah. But that's not, that's no future for us. It's just going to get worse. And I think it's time to reinstate no agenda hams. What? Don't you remember we had a repeater, we had reflectors, we had echo link channels, we had all kinds of cool stuff going on?

05:17 Yeah, no, well it was to be fair Seven or eight years ago, but it was like yeah It was not long after we started with the after you got me into the hobby. No, let's oh, I see. Okay Yeah, you were you're all jacked up there goes his effort. Thank you. You're all jacked up, but yeah, well I am I'm rejacked and it's and I think with good reason and I've set up my My HT, my Handy, set that up again. And I'm monitoring on D-Star, Reflector 33 Charlie, right now in fact if anyone can... I saw, you know, I'm thinking, just as I think about this, I saw those tweets. Yeah.

06:01 That's when the algorithm went into full force and shadowbanned you. Oh my god, one of these guys. Get off, get off. But I think we have... It's the ham radio as a competitor. It is. I think that we have enough people now to start up the No Agenda Nation repeater network, which could be two, you know, it should actually be a repeater-to-repeater network. We may have people in close enough proximity to get a lot of that and not rely on the internet back end. But I'm gonna be on DSTAR on Reflector 33 Charlie, and I'm going to be monitoring and the conversation I'm interested in having because this is what the problem we had nothing to talk about when We had the Noah agenda hands be like hey. Yeah, your rig sounds great. Yep. Yep. It's coming through fine. Yeah, it's good All the conversations

06:57 Pretty much, but now we can talk about building our repeater network which will be handy for something you know you can do a digital and we can do a lot in fact you know what we need our own CubeSat that's what we need. If every there's an idea if every and if this continues we could be the ones we could be the ones who save the world when all hell breaks loose. Right? Right. Right? But I think a CubeSat a CubeSat could really could really do it. You know, you can leave messages on those too for them to be rebroadcast. Now here we have Ham Radio, guys. Ham Radio is the public service network of Last Resort. When the apocalypse comes, we're the guys who are gonna save the world, right? Right?

07:46 But I'm serious. I want to build this. I want to build a repeater network. I want people to set up... We can do echo link reflectors. We need to do cross-linking between reflectors. We need analog repeater to repeater. And I'll meet you on D-Star. And of course people are like, I don't have D-Star! So someone needs to set up a reflector again and then we can do it on echo link. And if you don't know what this is, you're missing out on a fabulous hobby. Known as amateur radio and you too can become a ham today anybody who listens this show can pass the tech test probably

08:25 probably just right now without even studying yeah I mean and study a couple minutes and you could definitely pass well the beauty of it is that the questions for each test for each year are released publicly with the answers you get the test it's the same answers just in a different order if you can't and by the way that's the same for the general Well, it's not all of them. Sure. It's a it's just a selection of them anybody can do this and you can get a ham radio that would work on this network for 25 bucks now Yeah, the Bay of things 20 feet in China. Yeah. Well, so which is the irony? It is trying to go OTG and using Chinese crap to do it with it's great. Yeah, well, that's the cheapest stuff That's for sure. Yeah, so

09:19 And and and I know agenda hams are so alert not a single one has called me on the channel Like oh watch I'm gonna mention it on the show and they're gonna fire up their machines to start talking to me. No Well, so I have a way to go with the evangelism of the project. That's the way it always is. Yeah Yes Wow a lot going on There was actually a lot going on. It's all subtle. Yeah. I mean the Brexit thing was going on. Did you, by the way, just to start with, if you want to start with Brexit. Sure. This guy, you know, Guy van der Hovenblom? Yeah, the Belgian guy. The Belgian guy who you sound exactly like when you do that voice. Yes, Sean, I am Guy van der Hovenblom. I am very, very nice to be here in the show.

10:08 Well, here is a, I got two clips from him. There's actually shows three, but one of them is just a long clip that we don't want to play, but we got, he went to London and he was at the meetup or convention of the liberal Democrats who are all wearing get the, you know, stop Brexit. And, you know, the liberal Democrats are really, um, New World Order globalists, they don't like England any more than half the people in England. Right. Well, yes, that's the point. They don't like the country. Yeah.

10:44 And so this guy is gonna go, he gives one of the keynotes and gets a big round of applause, but he had two moments in the keynotes that I thought were worthwhile besides him trying to be funny, which he apparently does constantly. And this would be the, this is one that I just heard offhandedly and I felt it needed to be rethought. And this is Guy on Brexit, interpret this. I have one conviction. that Brexit happens is also a sign that this European Union needs to be modernized, needs to be more effective. We cannot continue, we cannot continue dear friends with a Europe that is always acting too little and too late. Yes, we cannot go on like this. As I said to my wife this morning,

11:39 That's him. Yeah, it's pretty hard not to laugh at this guy because of his accent. Well, this particular commentary, which is short, it was a, what was it? The length? 20 seconds. What he's saying there was, he started by saying the Brexit was only half. Let me, I'm going to deconstruct it completely and tell you what he actually said was that Brexit should have never have happened because the it only happened because the EU is too weak to put the kibosh on the whole thing to begin with. They just were not strong. And underneath that thinking is that we need a European army and we shouldn't let these countries do stuff like this Brexit. And that's what he said. He literally said, if we had our act together, Brexit would have never have happened because we wouldn't have allowed it. Let's listen one more time. It's only 20 seconds. I have one conviction.

12:43 that Brexit happens is also a sign that this European Union needs to be modernised, needs to be more effective. We cannot continue, dear friends, with a Europe that is always acting too little. And too late. And friends, we will be acting on behalf of the European Union. We will give them shit if they try to leave. It's not going to happen on my watch. Yep. Yeah, but this guy is a total douche. He's a... he is the New World Order guy. The Liberal Democrats love him over there. He's the guy... hold on, I have the... he's the guy that said you have to hand over all your sovereignty.

13:31 Yeah, that's why he's the guy you're right. Yeah, let me see. He has such a jocular style of delivery that you don't take it as seriously as you should. This guy is threatening you. Yeah, I can't find it that easily. But anyway, oh yes, here we go. Here it is. It's 20 seconds as well. He guy speaks in 20 seconds soundbites. How about that? And that is the real problem, colleagues. Why there is such a problem in this crisis. Because member states are reluctant to transfer new sovereignty and powers to the European Union. And we all know that the only way out of this crisis is a new transfer of powers to the European Union and to the European institutions. And make it snell.

14:18 Yes, snail, snail. Yeah, well this... Act two! It's not a one-off. This guy is very consistent. Yeah, and they're loving it over there at the Lib Dems. Anyway, so he did the thing, somebody, one of our producers sent me this clip, and I pulled that other part, but the emphasis everybody's making is on this clip, which is, I don't know, I don't think it's as onerous as the other one, it's longer, but it does tell you a little bit about some of the kinds of screwball thinking that goes on, and this is, Piggy on the new world order of tomorrow. In the world order of tomorrow, the world order of tomorrow is not a world order based on nation states or countries, it's a world order that is based on empires. China is not a nation, it's a civilization, Han.

15:10 India, you know it better than I do, is not a nation. There are 2,000 nations in India. There are 20 different languages that are used there. There are four big religions. At the same time, it is the biggest democracy worldwide. The US is also an empire, more than a nation. Maybe tomorrow they will speak there more Spanish than English. I don't know what will happen. And then finally the Russian Federation, the world of tomorrow is a world... I gotta stop, do you hear what this dick just did actually? He's like, well you're being overrun by immigrants, you're gonna be speaking Spanish tomorrow. This is exactly what's happening in his backyard in Europe. People are coming in who do not learn the native languages of the member states. And people are laughing! Yeah but if you dig deeper into what he's saying and again

16:03 Nobody takes him seriously because of the way he talks, but he's saying that look at India. It is there's 20 or I guess he said 20 languages that they're all speaking, but yet it's this big democracy that seems to work as it is. It is a shit hole. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. I could barely get that out, but it somehow works according to him. India is they're moving to Europe because they got no water. It's a shit hole. It's a total shithole. Let's finish the clip. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt but I was like, come on. At the same time, it is the biggest democracy worldwide. The US is also an empire, more than a nation. Maybe tomorrow they will speak there more Spanish than English. I don't know what will happen.

16:53 And they laugh. And then finally the Russian Federation. The world of tomorrow is a world of empires in which we, European and you British, can only defend your interests, your way of life by doing it together in a European framework and in a European Union. And those, dear friends, those who want to defend our standards of living, our social standards, our ecological standards, our labour standards, can only do that, they know it only in the framework of Europe and inside Europe in the centre of Britain that takes its responsibilities and not is going out of this great project.

17:51 To me it's unbelievable and they cheer him. Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, right. Let's just get now that's this is I don't want to make a analogy that stretches it too far but this is as if Hitler gave a speech in England, say in the late 30s, or let's say mid 30s before any of the frictions began, and said, why don't you just surrender to Germany? That way you don't have to worry about having this big war that's gonna kill a bunch of people, and we'll all be happy, and we'll get this done together, because you guys can't keep care of yourselves. You're incompetent. You need us.

18:47 I could just go on and on and on and on. Sure, we got the clips, yes. Complete clips. But the thing is, John, they are applauding this. And this to me, and we're seeing some of this happening in our country, there's stuff that's like I mean, we'll be talking, I'm sure, about the school strike tomorrow. These are all really old policies from socialist country, so communist China. I mean, this is crazy what's happening. And this isn't in the EU. Exactly. He's just saying we should go back to how it was in the 40s, the good old days. I don't know. I just find it distressing.

19:36 They're gonna have another election, I'm sure of it. Brexit's not gonna happen. The Brits are so screwed at their core, but they've already, they got too many of these liberal Democrats, or that sort of thinking that says, yeah, let's just give our country away and just throw our sovereignty and give it to the EU. Let's let them have it, because we can't manage ourselves. We're boneheads. That's what the guy said. That's what he says. You guys don't you can't do this. We need labor laws that we tell you what to do. Yeah, you guys have it's almost like you had your shot now you gotta listen to us. I'm sure that's what he'd like to say. That's what he wants to say. He's there just what he wants to say I'm sure is much even better than this. I do have one Brexit clip as now this was very odd.

20:30 to me as the prorogation is now in front of the UK Supreme Court and to see if this is legal. There's all kinds of issues going on and as I predicted I don't think Boris was ever gonna make it happen and now I didn't even know the UK had a Supreme Court. They don't have a written constitution. It's kind of a, yeah, well there's bits from here and there and we got some precedents and some jurisprudence. And the Supreme Court is a dude at a low desk in a small room like he's a university professor. I think he even had a blackboard behind him. He's got binders and cr- he's not wearing robes or anything.

21:13 It doesn't even look like a... I mean this is one guy, see the court, I don't know how it works and then some other guy is pleading his case and this is... and they don't know. They, it's like well, you know, who determines what's right? Who is the ultimate authority in the land? Would you accept that the exercise of the power to prove that Parliament has the potential to affect or undermine Parliament's ability to carry out its constitutional function of holding the executive to account? My Lord, by definition, I'm not sure I'd accept it in exactly those terms because I'd be accused of accepting a contentious proposition, but by definition, prorogation, and it's a point that I will come back to, has the effects that it has. So the bills that were previously before Parliament fall, they can be reintroduced,

22:04 so that parliamentary questions cannot be asked, so that the parliamentary committees do not sit. So of course to that extent it has the effects that it has. My submission will be that despite those features this is a well-established constitutional function, exercisable and to be exercised by the executive, and the question remains whether there are to go back to the rationale identified in Shergill, whether there are judicial manageable standards against which the sort of political judgments that are inevitably interwoven into decisions to

22:42 to prorogate, whether there are such standards. I'm going to come to analyze that. And also whether it is as a matter of constitutional propriety appropriate for those controls to be exercised by the courts as opposed ultimately to the body to which the executive is ultimately accountable. This is how it goes. Shut up, slaves. Your representatives don't mean crap. They want they want the court to make a decision on this. Well, we'll see. And he says Constitution, like what Constitution? I don't get it. Now I'm sure there are lots of Brits who will help us out. We have plenty of people who can explain this to us. Of course, of course. I wish all of them does. Of course, we'll have plenty, plenty helping us out.

23:33 I, you know, I spoke to Pchenik yesterday. Ah, good. What did you find out? Well, I asked him specifically about the drones and the Saudi Arabian refinery. Good cuz I'm like, you know, what is what is this? Is it from Iran did some did Iranian shoot it off in Iraq? Was it a cruise missile? Was it some kind of sophisticated drone? How did it get through the to the defenses look at by now? I think everyone's seen the holes I mean these are what maybe 20 yards apart perfect holes in these domes and And that's a pretty badass cruise missile strike and just a whole.

24:24 There's a bunch of these, I don't know what the point of the drones were, but there were at least two cruise missiles. And then it was NBC, I think they said there were nine. Here's, let's play, this is a lead-in clip. This is David Martin, and David Martin is probably one of their best foreign, correspond as old-timer, he's pretty straight in terms of his reporting. He doesn't like lean into the Trump hate thing and he could be CIA but he gives you a really good report. This is David Martin on the drone strike from CBS. We're gonna begin tonight with David Martin at the Pentagon who has more on the growing case the US is building against Iran.

25:03 U.S. officials say experts have examined pieces of the wreckage on the ground in Saudi Arabia, identified the specific type of cruise missiles and drones fired, and determined they were made in Iran. Other analysts have traced their tracks back to points in southwestern Iran. One official called it a complex and coordinated attack involving two dozen drones and nine cruise missiles. Although Vice President Pence stopped short of saying flatly it was Iran. As the president said yesterday, it's certainly looking like Iran was behind these attacks. Our intelligence community at this very hour is working diligently to review the evidence. Iran appears to have found... By the way, that's a great little thing he threw in there.

25:49 The intelligence community at this very hour. That's like, that's war talk. That's great. You know, it's like at this hour we are bombing Baghdad. At this hour troops are landing on the beaches of Normandy. At this hour there's another tent going up in downtown Austin. These attacks, our intelligence community at this very hour. Did he say my intelligence community? Fantastic, Pencey. No, he said, uh, he said, uh, Our intelligence community... R. I think he's saying R. ...our intelligence community at this very hour... Now I missed the best part. Okay. Our intelligence community at this very hour is working diligently to review the evidence. Wow! That's in the cliff? Yeah, I know. Wow! That's great. You know another thing we need to do before you restart it.

26:42 It's interesting that Pence, I mean there's this issue we've talked about on the show before about the pronunciation of Iran. and the insiders at some level, at some side of the fence pronounce it Iran, which is what David Martin says if you listen to him, he says Iran. And then of course the other side of the pronunciation fence says Iran. Yeah, that's wrong. That's just wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. And that's how the French pronounces it. Sorry, once in a while I just gotta throw some sound effects in there. It seems to work really well at this hour. Every hour is working diligently to review the evidence. Iran appears to have found a gaping hole in Saudi air defenses around their most valuable asset, oil. Saudi Arabia relies on US-made Patriot air defense batteries, but they were all pointed south toward Yemen, where past missile attacks have come from.

27:39 The missiles and drones that hit the oil facilities this weekend came in from the north. The U.S. has patriots of its own at an air base in the middle of the country, but they were too far away. Having been unable to prevent the attack, the U.S. warned it might retaliate. We're locked and loaded. Locked and loaded! And we're ready to defend our interests and our allies in the region. Make no mistake about it. US has been locked and loaded since last spring when it's- Dude, that is my sound effect they just used there. Listen to it. You're gonna hear theirs and then I'll play mine, okay? Get ready. And we're ready to defend our interests and our allies in the region. Make no mistake about it. US- That's theirs. It's my effect. No, yours is more elaborate. Mine's better, for sure. The region. Make no mistake about it.

28:28 The US has been locked and loaded since last spring when it sent an aircraft carrier and B-52 bombers to the Persian Gulf. But Joint Chiefs Chairman General Joseph Dunford told reporters the president has not yet asked for any military options. For now, the most concrete consequence of what Secretary of State Pompeo called an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply is that President Trump said he'd prefer not to meet with Iranian President Rouhani next week when world leaders gather at the UN. Alright, now before I get to Pachanik, that is a good lead in, thank you for that. Shep Smith brought, Shep, you know, Shep Smith, Fox News, he brought up, which I never watched but I did find this clip, someone sent it to me. He brought up the obvious, which we said always has to be part of one of these deals.

29:15 Expecting the president shortly will play that for you as we get it Michael the bigger picture there was a time when World oil prices factored in risks to oil facilities and there's a name for that It's sort of been on the on the side for a while. But with with this new drone technology and instability in the region I wonder bigger picture how concerned you are that this sort of thing could happen again. I I do worry because what we really need to stop this kind of thing is directed energy defense, laser beams essentially, that can shoot down an indefinite number of small threats. If you have to use a missile to take out each drone, the economics are against you, the geography is against you.

29:54 and the laser technology is coming along but it's not quite the economic... I'm surprised these guys, they don't do any effects. They should be doing all kinds of... talking about lasers and shit, nothing. ...chemical and effective enough yet that it could really protect all these Saudi or other oil facilities. So on balance there is going to be some ongoing vulnerability here. My guess is we could probably do a little better with the point defense of these kinds of facilities. Maybe not each and every one but the most valuable, the most fragile. So I think that's the next step is to look into how much better defense you can do. There's going to be a certain amount of vulnerability, however, either way you look at it. Our allies seem concerned. All right, so there's your there's your military industrial complex, you know, thinking about ramping up some directed energy weapon technology so that we can take those drones down. So I spoke to Pachanik and I recorded our conversation.

30:46 And I asked him a couple of things. Now, for those who don't know, Steve Pachanik, go look him up on Wikipedia, P-I-E-C-Z-E-N-I-K. He has an unbelievable record and resume, a resume for sure, record I guess. And he certainly has his own take and when I asked him about what kind of drone was this who did this He came out of such a no agenda angle. I'm angry I didn't figure it out myself one of the key factors that came out But nobody really realized was the fact that a Ramco or the Saudi Arabian oil was to go public Recently, oh, I thought that was off that was off the table. It was still ready to go. Oh

31:28 It was off the table because what we call the strike price or the price of the stock at the initial offering was not what Mohammed had wanted or the Saudis had wanted. Because in fact, without Saudi oil, we do very well. Thank you very much. The United States of America is a net exporter of oil and we do not need Saudi oil. The reason we allow Saudi oil to go up there is to really allow them to be our subordinates or sycophants, so to say. But Mohammed bin Salman doesn't want to admit it. And honestly, if I were in his military, I would have an overthrow because he's really a danger to Saudi Arabia and to the Middle East.

32:13 The truth of the matter is I don't think anything hit those oil tanks. I think they blew up on their own because when you have an IPO, and this goes back to my days as a managing director of an investment banking firm, and you pull away from a strike price, that means you did not make the amount of money that you wanted. Now, Mohammed bin Salman's fantasy is that he will make $2 trillion based on the net asset value of oil in Saudi Arabia. There's no way you can say that that's worth $2 trillion. He spends about $100 billion a year just subsidizing the whole government.

32:51 and using his National Guard to terrorize people and the war in Yemen, which he does not need. Millions of kids have died. It's a proxy war against Iran. And guess what? Iran will always win. They've been around a lot longer. So the bottom line is I don't believe the story. It was a 5 percent deficit in oil. We made it up within minutes. And Trump correctly said, oh, let me see. I don't think anything hit them, but it was Iranian operatives involved or machinery baloney. You know, this is a self-destructive element in order to get the oil price up and it didn't work. And I went and looked on Reuters and Market Watch and it's true.

33:38 They were planning on going public and well we don't know I like the theory of the strike price being off ie the price of oil wasn't high enough let's see if we can jack it up and now they're saying they want to take it public in November instead of next year so now there's all kinds of IPO news they're really trying to do anything they maybe before oil goes down again even further Yeah, they had planned to go out when they plan to go out the price of oil was too low and so they weren't gonna get all that money that they were hoped for and they had to change the as I don't know why he says what we call a strike price. Who's we? Oh, he calls it strike prices the price. It's what he's now but what he's talking about is the IPO you have it's your price How's it different than price

34:35 I don't know why you're focusing on that, but okay. I don't know. It just seemed odd. Okay. You think that's odd? Or somewhat, it was actually wasn't that it was like it was somewhat patronizing, I thought. I think he means what he means we as in Adam and Steve because we talk a lot about day trading and he's a day trader. Yeah. So I think that's what he meant. I don't think he meant it patronizing. He did go on to say that the real problem in all of this is MBS. It's Mohammed bin Salman who we don't talk about much but you see his investments in Twitter and he's trying to do anything he can according to Pachinic as you'll hear.

35:18 to find additional value in anything he can get his hands on. Now, remember this, Adam, your audience has to understand this is not the first time that Saudi Arabia has wanted to go public because they have no indigenous businesses. In other words, Mohammed bin Salman in his fantasy world is going to my agent, William Morris in Beverly Hills. He has to reach out all the Jewish guys in order to bring up, you know, how does that work out? that it shows you how hard up he is. Entertainment and high tech companies. But in fact, the reality is he tried 2017. They failed to go public. 2018. They failed to go public. A few days ago wasn't an accident when Bolton left. Suddenly we had a missile strike, so to speak.

36:06 in the Saudi gas tanks when in fact there was no missile strike, there was a deficit of 5% of oil. When there is no deficit, we can make it up in a nanosecond and we do with West Texas Permian oil. Thanks to you guys, we can make it up. We don't even need Brent oil, which is $10 more than what we do in West Permian. So basically, the Saudis are pretty much screwed. They know it, we know it, and and their valuation can never come to their own assessments. In other words, they have no assets that really are valuable. Now you know more about the oil markets, I'm just going to presume he knew what he was talking about. Well, he can't say that they got nothing of value. So that giant pile of oil is worthless? Is that what he's trying to say there? It makes no sense. I think what he's saying is that they're no longer the boss. They don't have guaranteed customers.

37:02 We're no longer a guaranteed customer. We have other choices. I think that's the point. That's not what he said. He said they have nothing of value. I don't think the oil market is drying up so much that if you pull the Saudi oil off the market completely, it would have an effect on the oil price. No doubt. No doubt. But this bombing didn't have the effect that was rumored. Remember, I was... No, there was... Horowitz chatted about this. It was like the oil price had a short spike because, oh no, and then everyone came to their senses except apparently the TV networks, I don't have a clip, I don't think, where they brought some goof-doofus on, one of the congressmen, and said, well, you know, we're so dependent on Saudi oil. I'm saying, when was this?

37:56 Oh yeah, I was watching Sunday morning news. We haven't been dependent on anybody's oil. We're self-sufficient. Hello? So when you hear somebody say, we're dependent on Saudi oil, it's bull crap. Where's he getting his check from is the first question. So it spiked up and then it did ramp down as fast as it spiked up pretty much and it did with a net result of nothing. Exactly. Nothing burger as you like to say. No I don't say that. Screw you Dvorak. I've never... No. Find it. Bullshit. I've never said nothing burger. Recently what you want? Yeah we can do shows. Oh I'll give you four shows. Find it. Make it six. Eight.

38:41 Eight. Find it. Done. Okay. And then we'll count the times you go, so uh... You're supposed to stop me from doing that. It's impossible. This is you. And it's the imperfections that make you perfect. The point is, is that the... there's... it didn't work. He's right. Pachenik is totally right about this, which is... Yeah, it was a flop if it was designed to run the prices up now. Here's the funniest part sure by the way I thought it would Well, I said they were talking a hundred and you said no that's not gonna happen it went up Yeah, I don't believe a hundred but I believe 20 20 points up, but it went up like 260 and then back down again. Yeah. Yeah final clip which is funny is

39:25 Because obviously, all right, so this didn't work. We still have the looming war with Iran and we're locked and loaded. And what does it mean? Why is Trump doing this? Well, what Trump tends to do when he says we're locked and loaded, and the Iranians are pretty smart. They've watched Trump over the years, just like I did in New York. And we know that he actually builds what he says he builds. He built Wollman Memorial Park, ice skating rink. He built 42nd Street. He built the Trump Tower. So they're interested more than anything else. Where is Trump going to come in and where would he like to build a hotel? That's what North Korea wants to. Where's my Trump hotel? That's why I think Pompeo got rid of Bolton and Pompeo is going to make a deal. And somewhere on the southeastern coast of North Korea, you're going to see a Trump tower and a Trump hotel.

40:19 Similarly, I'm not being facetious, you're going to see in Tehran and Aziz Bijan and Tablis all kinds of Trump Tower hotels. He's not interested in war, never has been, never will be. But he will use force and the threat of force in order to force you to come to the tables. But he has no problem coming back again and again and again until he cuts the deal. And he'll cut the deal. Think he listens to us too much. He's getting way too many ideas from us There you go everybody fake drones fake drones, well, that's just that's something you don't hear on the networks Constantly

41:10 But yeah, it makes sense and then have, you know, if you hear Pence at this hour, so that makes a lot of sense. It's Pence sense. It makes so much sense for him to also be echoing this and making kind of war talk when they have no intention whatsoever. And everyone I know who has family in Iran or was born in Iran, lived in Iran, they all say, these mullahs and the Americans they always work together we're not really worried I mean it sucks they got a lot of problems but they're never really worried about America coming in and wiping them out. They feel there's too much collusion, too much collusion. Could be. Yeah. I'm not saying this I'm not saying that anything said there was beyond the realm of possibility. Right, exactly.

42:02 What else we got here? Oh man, there's well Trudeau. This is uh, did you see Trudeau's in blackface? Yes, I got the clips I got everything. Oh good cuz I got the I got the photo but I never got the clips. Oh, yeah, I got Well, here's what I'm gonna do. I have a I so I have the clip as brought to us by Fox News Which I think is important and then because this is a all part of kind of cancel culture stuff At least they're trying to cancel Trudeau out with this. Thank you Time Magazine.

42:38 And here and so then I have his actual statement, but here's the here's the hyperbole off the top We should note the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau admits the picture is him It shows Trudeau wearing brown makeup on his face neck and hands during a party in 2001 at the time The 29 year old was teaching in a private school called West Point and Grey Academy the school was holding an Arabian nights themed gala and Trudeau was dressed up as a character from Aladdin complete with robes, headdress and brown skin. The party was attended by faculty, administrators and parents and the photo was given to Time, formerly Time Magazine, by a Vancouver businessman who was part

43:19 of the West Point Gray community and the man said it's important the public see the picture. This is not a good start to the Prime Minister's re-election campaign because Trudeau is already involved in a scandal over whether he pressured his then Attorney General to drop corruption charges against a large and powerful Canadian engineering firm. It also may not sit well with voters considering Trudeau has called himself a champion of minority groups and canada's many cultures who is speaking right now he was asked if he'll resign he did not answer the question he has said that he did this before this picture was not the first time he acknowledges that it's a very little not think it was racist but now he knows that it was racist let's listen to him on something like this mister trudeau is that the only time in your life you've ever done something like that when i was in high school

44:09 He sang Deo. For those who are too young, Deo is also known as the banana boat song made famous by Harry Belafonte. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. And this is often done by big black women with lots of bananas all over the place and I think I've seen some in old-school Actresses dress up and do this. I think Lucille Ball might have even done it once or twice So here now

44:58 Okay, so that's really sensationalized and and you know this is 20... I consider it to be the funniest thing in the news this week. It's funny because he's such a social justice warrior. Yeah, that's why it's funny exactly. But we'll give him props for just explaining what happened. Here's his full statement, a little calmer and not so shouty and I think better audio too. In 2001, when I was a teacher out in Vancouver, I attended an end of year gala where the theme was Arabian Nights. And I dressed up in an Aladdin costume and put makeup on. I shouldn't have done that. I should have known better, but I didn't.

45:46 And I'm really sorry. Do you think you should resign this? Would you have called for them to step down? I think there are people who've made mistakes in this life and you make decisions based on what they actually do, what they did, and on a case-by-case basis. I think I deeply regret that I did that. I should have known better, but I didn't. So what else can you do? I'm sorry. And that's what he's doing. However, if they let him get off, which of course he will, then there's another chink in the armor. Oops! Did I say chink? A chink in the armor that, you know, of this whole social justice warrior cancel culture movement, which thank goodness

46:35 We're seeing some resistance. We typically don't do show business things, but I think that seeing as we're slowly being scrubbed away from Twitter for probably similar reasons, including not having a checkmark, the SNL comedian scandal was just fabulous. And tonight a dramatic reversal of fortune for a comic who... By the way, this is NBC reporting on NBC. Gotta love that. ...had just been hired by Saturday Night Live, now fired over racist and homophobic remarks. Here's Stephanie Gosk. It's Saturday Night Live! Tonight, comedian Shane Gillis is out of a job. His offer to join Saturday Night Live rescinded after days of backlash over racist and homophobic slurs he used during a podcast. Damn, Chinatown's f***ed.

47:24 The video surfaced just after it was announced Gillis would join the SNL cast along with the show's first comedian of East Asian descent. Now a spokesperson for show creator and producer Lorne Michaels releasing this statement writing in part, We were not aware of his prior remarks that have surfaced over the past few days. The language he used is offensive, hurtful, and unacceptable. 31-year-old Gillis, who made a name for himself in stand-up from New York to LA, responding tonight.

48:00 I'm a comedian who is funny enough to get SNL. That can't be taken away. I understand it would be too much of a distraction. I respect the decision they made. I'm honestly grateful for the opportunity. The coveted job on SNL, which appears on NBC Network, has launched comedians' careers for decades. Tonight one comedian watched the chance slip through his fingers. Stephanie Goss, NBC News, New York. I watched the video, it's a podcast and it was a hidden episode or some bullshit like that and they're talking about Chinese restaurants and making fun of accents which is nothing that we don't do. China is asshole! And exactly about Chinese and Asians.

48:43 you know, guffaw, ha ha, marginally funny. I'm sure I've never seen this show. I'm sure that they make fun of everybody as we often do and it's always surprising that when we make fun of everyone and then we'll hit someone will get bent out of shape. You never hear from them but well my wife is this or my brother's this or and people forget that you know it's you're supposed to be able to offend equally. Luckily I'm seeing comedians push back and Bill Burr would have to have you seen his new special. Yes, I have. I thought it was pretty good. Well, I thought it was it wasn't a one sit down where like the Chappelle show where you just start watching you couldn't stop but it was it was in the state was kind of like us.

49:32 I like Bill Burr, I think he's a hilarious guy, he's very down to earth, kind of borderline right winger. And he is funny, he's extremely funny. But I hate to say it, but compared to the Chappelle, it just came out pretty close to each other. I agree. It was kind of this, it was second tier. Well, it was, I liked it was good. What I thought was interesting about that special is he taped the Royal Albert Hall in front of a mainly British audience. That was fascinating. Yes. And the shit translated, a lot of it translated. It was good. I was like, oh man. Well, he also, one of Burr's bits, schticks,

50:10 is that he will do something extremely, he'll do something very offensive to the point where the audience just freezes. And then he uses that, Johnny Carson as a comic used to pull this kind of thing too, he loved to do these bomb gags and then he would work on that. And he gets the audience to freeze and then he will give the audience grief. And he does it, Burr is really adept at this particular gambit. I've never seen anyone any better at it actually. But yeah, I saw it, I liked it.

50:48 David Spade has a show Lights Out. I think I told you should probably give that a watch. I have been trying to catch it. It's on at 830 and I just put it on the DVR otherwise. Yeah, I just put on the DVR because it's on too late. Believe it or not, it's on too late for me after being bit. And David Spade was on SNL. And he had Jim Jeffries on, I think he's Jim Jeffries from Australia, I think, and Bill Burr. I'll just play this just because they're doing it. They're responding publicly and that at the very least is needed. Well, this is just cancelled culture. The guy shouldn't have been fired. It's just a couple of things back in his history. We're going to go through everyone's history or are we going to get rid of every sketch that SNL has done that involves race?

51:30 Like I remember John Belushi dressing as an Asian man with a samurai sword. That was the whole sketch. Or maybe we could have... What was it? Mike Myers used to play a Japanese host like this and if they got the question wrong they had to cut their hand off. Did they go back and also try to look at good things that the person might have done or they just looking for the bad stuff? Is it you just scroll through help cat out of a tree? That's not it. Grandmother walk across the street. That's not it. You know, I feel like on a podcast. There it is. Yeah. I mean, you could do that. You could honestly do that.

52:07 to anybody so I don't get it and then I don't get if you say something like that you can't work in a sketch show but like it's okay from what he can work in a lumberyard yeah he's certainly gonna meet more Asians there right? Then on SNL it's a joke about how SNL is not hiring Asians. Jesus Christ, now I'm in trouble? We're not running for office when is this gonna f*** up? Exactly. Bunch of rats. Now the thing that never comes up is, you know, why did SNL

52:43 fire him and we know the answer, No Agenda Nation knows the answer, it's because they don't want to launch their new season with this kind of controversy that the advertisers won't like. That's the bottom line. I'm sure that every comedian on SNL is like Well, it's alright, you know exactly what he said they had entire bits about this in the in the past Yeah, I think you made a good point there racist bits all kinds of things So what the thing is that the the people who do this is they're very successful Okay, you know it's when I went to Iraq and

53:22 in 2003 with the Dutch Marines and we walked around different towns and you know and I meet people and you know it's kind of a you know it's like the USO you know it's you get to meet culture and the people's okay fine I mean while I'm with 20 guys and tanks so it's pretty safe for old Adam And I think it was the commander of the unit said, you know what really fueled a lot of what's going on here, because it's very confusing place, certainly in 2003. is, or actually going back to the first Gulf War we had the Scud missiles. Remember the Scuds? Oh Scud missiles! And these things were big and bulky and sometimes it just crashed in the ground and just stuck there like Wile E. Most of them broke up in flight. Like Wile E. Coyote had shot it off and it didn't explode on impact. All kinds of weird stuff. We said what was so fantastic was the feedback loop. These guys would you know

54:21 light off a scud, run back to their hut with their satellite dish and watch Wolf Blitzer report on it on CNN. This is kind of what we're seeing here. It's like, let's all jump on this. Let's go completely crazy. And then they'll get cancelled. And they think that they have this power, but it's really the advertisers that hold the power. And those things can change over time. You're gonna say something no, I was just thinking that yeah, you're correct. Yeah, I was thinking yep Adams, right? It's but it's this feedback loop, you know you and and and by the way, it's like a pressure cooker, you know, where's everyone so I gotta impeach Trump Trump Trump And we're trying to blow the valve open and all of a sudden there's a little teeny valve over there cut

55:15 Spew the steam out the little Kavanaugh hole which lasted for exactly 24 hours. Yeah, well it's coming back. Kavanaugh is coming back after this book has been discredited? After it's been discredited? Yeah. What you got? I don't have any clips that you need to meet their going after me again no but they went after him and the whole. You probably haven't followed this new york times publish something and it was from a book and they omitted the fact that the person they were talking about didn't remember the whole incident. And then the two journalists who wrote this, who work for the New York Times, it was a PR piece for their book, said, well, in the editing process, in the rush to get the paper out, somehow they inadvertently removed the part that the witness couldn't remember any of this, this whole premise that we're talking about. So I think it's kind of filled in, it's a dud. I don't think that... Well, it's always been, everything's a dud. Right. But so they're not really doing much else now. It's just dud world. But yeah, this, and

56:19 And there's going to be a lot more cancelling before some of this ends, but I love hearing, you know, Chappelle and Bill Burr and other people just pushing back against it. Come on. Well, they're on their own. I mean, they're on these specials that don't have any worry. There's no worry about advertisers on Netflix. There's no worry. I mean, there's a slight worry about advertisers on Amazon. And Amazon actually has put on one of these little stand-ups. They're starting to do stand-up comedy. And they've got a girl who is one of the social justice warriors pushing back the other way on Amazon.

56:57 And I'll have to get the details on this woman. Yeah, you notice that people... But she doesn't sound funny. You notice that they're tried. Oh, this is a good point. Thank you. So when it's an advertiser-based medium, you're very quick to get cancelled. When it's not advertiser-based, turns out that people really aren't that motivated. So I did see calls for, I'm cancelling my Netflix subscription! Well of course no one does, it's bullcrap! They're not really cancelling that so you see that the model, it's like our model. Wow! It is like our model. That's why we haven't been cancelled yet. We haven't been cancelled because we don't care. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in cancel culture twice John C.C. Dvorak.

57:55 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning to all the ships of the sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, and in the morning to our trolls in the troll room where you can always get an invite to noagendasocial.com. If you go in there right now, you can sit with other trolls. Let's see, how are we doing? We had 736 earlier. We currently have 944 trolls. Hello, trolls! It's good to have you guys here. And there's always something going on. You can listen to the live stream, which is 24-7, with hundreds of shows and episodes to listen to. Also, a big in the morning to our artist for episode 1173. We titled that The Vinyl Vote. And John Fletcher, Fletcher! Fletcher is back. He gave us the danger blowhole sign, which was simply just the best. I don't think we had any argument, did we?

58:51 Well, we had an argument about yeah, we did but it was there was not this because the no one caught anything really good and we went to a What was the the best which was simple? Yeah, we had we had an argument with the non-existent people Who had not delivered anything good. Is that what you're saying? Something like that. I remember the moment and it was like it I would say that this is like no offense to Fletcher he knows we love him of course but we settled Well, we didn't go into the evergreens, let's put it that way. That's always a good start. That's a plus. If you don't go into the evergreens. This is our Value for Value network. We're honest and we love everyone who participates in it. We have Fletcher, who does all kinds of stuff for us. We have so many people involved in this program and you're all producers and just like Hollywood we like to thank

59:49 The producers who came in with financial support of the show, particularly in the higher numbers, we'd like to call them and we'd like to honor them with their executive producership and associate executive producership. Ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, Sir Dwayne Melanson. That's right. Right up top. Yes, and curiously, he's right on top. And the only executive producer with a light show for some reason. Well, I think it's because of the palindrome. The curse of the palindrome. I blame everything on that now.

1:00:29 Yes, so Dwayne Melisand and Tigard, Oregon or Tigard or Tigard, I don't know. 33333. ITM Gents, I'll be attending Oregon local 33 meet up this Friday in Wilsonville. Only a hand, I wonder if the Squirrel Burger place is still there. Only a handful of it was a hamburger place and it had the Pacific Northwest hamburger is signature hamburger if anyone hasn't had one they used to have a burger master which I think is folded and Other burger places where it's a it's a cheeseburger with an egg on it. Oh, no No, no, I do like the ideal of a squirrel burger though. I think that could get legs It's called squirrel burger, but it's beef died like I try I'll eat squirrel. I

1:01:17 Yeah, well, it's a burgoo, it's supposed to be an animal. It's like rabbit, it's like cat, tastes a bit like cat, it's not that much different. Cat probably is pretty good. I've had cat. Only a handful of RSVP's so far, but hoping to see many Knights, Dames and Wannabes as possible to value YouTube bring to our community is immense. Thank you for your courage, Jingle. The more you know, please. The more you know, in the morning. You've got karma beautiful And now I'm remiss I have because I think I look up our next I have You may have his email. I do I have it. Okay. Good. Well, let me just read his note is his vitals. Okay Dave sir Dave fugues oto who is actually a baron and

1:02:03 $239.19 and you have his email. Yeah, and just as I said that, it popped off the screen. Give me a second to retrieve it again. Here we go. Dear Jeeves and Wooster, I bid you in the morning and closes my donation of $239.19 in recognition of Saudi Arabia National Day on the 23rd of September. So, hence... I could have made that our celebration. Well, the 23rd is right around the corner. Hence 23919. Given events of late we are hoping they will eschew any further fireworks. I'm getting in a bit early but I'm traveling this week and didn't want to miss the chance. John feel free to use the amount as yet another one of your fabulously effective donation gimmicks. I'm sure it'll be a smashing success because, well, Saudi Arabia!

1:02:59 We have a long weekend for the holidays, so I'm headed to kick around Ethiopia for a few days. Wow. A cheap and short flight and a surprisingly easy online visa application process should be a fun trip. About 40 degrees cooler. Where's that sweater I packed? Finally, this amount... Oh! This amount levels me up to Earl. Well, we need to put him on the list. I will for now keep my current holdings of America's heartland and Saudi Arabia However an ulterior motive of my trip this weekend is to meet with some more influential uber drivers to discuss Ethiopia's entry into my sphere of influence I shall keep you posted and he says

1:03:38 No, I didn't see this. Okay, clip request is the ISO of the guy yammering in Arabic from show 1173 which for our purposes we will assume is wishing the world a happy Saudi Arabia day followed by a little girl yay and What is the last thing and travel goat karma well we happen to be able to do that on the fly You've got And thank you very much Sir Dave Fugazotto, I'm gonna put you on the list right now as the Earl and it's the Earl of America's Heartland in Saudi Arabia. Thank you so much Michael Goodell in Grosse Pointe, Michigan 231 dollar 231 dollars and 41 cents and he says oh, I guess I should close that and

1:04:36 And open this. Ward Detwiller hit me in the mouth back in March and my amygdala has been steadily shrinking ever since. As this is my first donation, I need to be de-douched. You've been de-douched. He wants China asshole and job karma. Please, I choose to start with this amount as this is my number of the number of words I've written in my latest novel. One suggestion Adam has expressed a need for something more contemporary than war in peace for overly long notes and of by the way I'm the one who uses the war and peace joke for these notes. Correct. For overly because I'm stuck with them for overly long notes of which this one is in danger of becoming not really try saying he or she went all Neil Stephenson on me. Stephenson.

1:05:37 Yeah, who cares? Keep up the good work and I've adopted a Stefan because of the basketball player. Keep up the good work and thank you for your courage. China is asshole! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Well, there goes my SNL gig. There goes your SNL gig and there goes your visa. And I rebuke, I rebuke that clip. You rebuke that clip? I rebuke it, yeah. What does that mean, you rebuke it? I don't know, but when I go to the office and they ask, you're responsible for this clip? I say, I have rebuked publicly, I've rebuked. All right, you know what you can do? You can say, I rebuked and I blame Adam Curry. I rebuke and I blame Adam Curry. Because he's no pussy.

1:06:35 Daniel Auslan is next on the list. $201.33 from Blaine, Minnesota nuts. Taking a career leap and needs some jobs, Karma. Dealer's choice. I've been listening since 2008 and no agenda still remains the best podcast in the universe. Thank you very much. Daniel. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Karma. And that's it. That's our four people and then it drops off by the way for the next segment. There's nobody in the $100 range. I got lots of long clips for today. We don't have a lot of donation content.

1:07:15 Since I'm looking at the spreadsheet now, how many people do you think took part on the 9, 19, 19, 1900, 19 hours? Right now we got like a triple quadruple palindrome. How many people? Give a wild guess. Well, let me, why don't we tease that so people will stay listening to find out how many it really was. Okay. I did want to mention Because I did open up the spreadsheet today, and I always love looking at people who know they're not going to mention, but they put notes in. And so I can't mention his name, but he's a consistent four-cent donor from Anthem, Arizona, and he says only 14 weeks to knighthood. So I don't know how many times you need to donate four cents. He's just bullcrap.

1:08:08 Thank you. By the way, donating four cents is like donating nothing because PayPal just takes it all. That's correct. Thank you to our soul to be Earl, to be Earl'd. executive producer for this show and our associate executive producers. These are the credits that are exactly the same as in Hollywood and we'll vouch for you if anyone ever questions that and they are valuable there where credits are recognized. As John said, we'll be thanking more people in our very few but more people in our second half and please remember us for Sunday. Dvorak.org slash N-A. You know so much now. You know about the cancer culture. You know why it's happening. Our formula is this.

1:08:49 We go out we hit people in the mouth Actually means something like God is loving isn't that what it is the Yemeni thing? I forgot. A whole bunch of people answered us. I know, I don't remember the exact translation but something minor. It was your question. I know, I'm just sorry that somehow I... it was kind of boring to be honest about it. I got a couple of notes from the former New York banker.

1:09:34 And I wanted to know if you guys had discussed this over at the Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged that the Fed started something they hadn't done in about 10 years since the Great Recession and they started injecting money into the system As the overnight lending rates between banks spiked, at one point there was a bid for 10%, and this is very similar to what happened in the 2007-2008 crisis and they've already pumped in 56 billion. They think they can go up to 73 billion. We can probably just double that. I'm sure these guys are, they talk a big game. They do all kinds of stuff. Did you guys talk about this injection? No, not this particular thing.

1:10:27 Now do you know what this means? Do you understand this? I mean, I not completely This is banker stuff the overnight repo rate as it's known which is what banks and other financial players charge each other to lend cash in exchange for super safe bonds Should be close to 2% but it shot up almost as high as 10% on Tuesday one of the underlying causes of this scarcity of reserves compared with the amount of Treasury bonds in the market is That has made banks less willing to lend to each other even in exchange for safe government bonds. To settle markets down, this is from the Wall Street Journal, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York has dipped into this market conducting three auctions this week where banks could swap treasuries for new reserves. So the banker sent me this note when it happened, I guess he sent it to me on Wednesday, it happened Tuesday in the overnight and I of course said, what does it mean?

1:11:22 this follows along perfectly with now with what he told us before. Do you remember he talked about Goldman Sachs maybe being the next bank to go out of business? Yeah. So here's what he wrote me. This is additional capital requirements that have been put in since the crisis which make it harder to borrow overnight. That's corroborated. that there's more kind of Sarbanes-Oxley type rules and they have to have a certain amount of money on hand since the crisis. And I think they might have tightened down a little bit or started yammering, the banks are really doing this. So, to continue, the banker says, additional capital requirements are put in since the crisis make it hard to borrow overnight where huge amounts of money sits. Like all other big banks, central bank level borrowing is no real credit risk here, just another way the Fed is needed to make things work smoothly.

1:12:16 Good for big US banks, bad for trading houses, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, foreign banks and large investors. When the Fed needs to step in, there's always a loser. So this could be the Goldman Sachs moment, kind of like Lehman and Bear Stearns 10 years ago. Well, the Goldman Sachs should have been amongst that group 10 years ago, according to most of the people, especially the ones that worked at Lehman. So it's possible, I mean maybe, maybe not. It's hard to predict. If you could predict this stuff so well, you wouldn't be talking to anybody, you'd just be...

1:12:59 Maybe all your castles. Maybe he's just trying to share the wealth John you're so skeptical Either that or trying to manipulate you and the market. Yeah, I'm going short Goldman everybody. Hey, dude. I'm a podcaster. Give me a break podcast podcasters revolt Yes podcasters in blackface. Yeah Podcasters in blackface. I like it. I like it. Yeah, it'd be a good podcast, but she was just audio Yes, I'm wearing my Aladdin outfit

1:13:41 What are you wearing John in your podcast? I am Stefan fetch it podcasters in black PIBF podcasters in blackface Nice, that's that's a very good idea for a show. I think I'll start another one That's smart to Pete's podcast exactly Okay, well anyway, let's go on to the little politics we're done with. Oh, yes, let's do some political. I collected a bunch of Biden gaffes. Yes, it's kind of your beat. Well, I've got a couple of them that are interesting. Then one I think is mis- it's been misapplied to Biden. I think they're giving him a bum rap. But I have the corn pop story.

1:14:29 Which is that idiotic story that he told, I think it was a couple years ago. It's great. It's great. It's a great story. It's a crappy story, but it was a... And Biden drops like sometimes entire sentences the way Ron Paul used to do. Where Ron Paul would be talking about something, but then he'd have some little things in the middle, but he'd have a little auctioneering going on in the middle of this thing and you're expected to know what he's supposed to be saying. But Biden does that. And here he is, here's the corn, let's start with this, because this, I don't know if this is a bull crap story or not. Somebody did some research.

1:15:13 You don't know if it's a bull crap story? I learned a lot. And I learned that it makes a difference. This was the diving board area and I was one of the... I think you need to, we need to set it up by saying for those who didn't see it that he's in a black community is talking about when he was a lifeguard at this you know in this mainly... Public pool. Public pool mainly used by black kids. I think that's his point and he's surrounded by black people. I learned a lot. And I learned that it makes a difference. This was the driving board area and I was one of the guards and there was a 3 meter board. If you fell off sideways, you landed on the darn cement over there. And Corn Pop was a bad dude and he ran a bunch of bad boys.

1:16:07 And I did, yeah, he... Whoa, I'm surprised no one called him out on that. Racist, you can call black men boys. Come on, Joe. And Corn Pop was a bad dude. And he ran a bunch of bad boys. And I did, yeah, he... And back in those days, you see how things have changed? One of the things you had to use, if you used pomade in your hair, you had to wear a bathing cap. And so he was up on the board, wouldn't listen to me. I said, hey Esther, you, off the board. I'll come up and drag you off. Can you imagine? I mean, this is being completely glossed over. Calling a black man Esther Williams has got to be the most racist thing I've heard. It's funny, but it's got to be racist. Could you say that today? Hey, Esther Williams?

1:16:52 I don't think so. I don't think so either. Well he came off and he said I'll meet you outside my car this was mostly these were all public housing behind it my car there was a gate out here I parked my car outside the gate yeah the Stargate and I he said I'll be waiting for you he's right murder three guys in straight razors not a joke There was a guy named Bill White Mouse, the only white guy, and he did all the pulls. He was the mechanic. And I said, what am I gonna do? He said, come down here in the basement where mechanics, where all the pull filter is. You know the chain, there used to be a chain that went across the deep end. And he cut off his six foot length of chain, he folded up, he said, you walk out. That was a chain that went across the deep end? Those are plastic. Like the plastic red and white chain, is that what he got?

1:17:45 He's talking about the chain in the pool. It's not it's not it. Maybe it was a big heavy metal chain back in the day No, no where mechanics were all the pool filter is you know the chain used to be a chain that went across the deep end and he cut off a six-foot length of chain you fold up he said you walk out he cut it off with scissors with that chain and you walked in a car and say you may cut me man, but I'm gonna wrap this chain around your head and I said, you kidding me? He said, no if you don't, don't come back. And he was right. So I walked out with the chain. And I walked up to my car. And they had, those days, you remember the straight race? You'd bang them on the curb, get them rusty, put them in a rain barrel, get them rusty.

1:18:33 And I looked at him, but I was smart then. I said, first of all, I said, when I tell you to get off the board, you get off the board, I'll kick you out again, but I shouldn't have called you. Esther Williams, I apologize for that. I apologize, but I didn't know that apology was going to work. He said, you apologize to me? I said, I apologize not for throwing you out, but I apologize for what I said. He said, OK, and closed his straight razor, and my heart began to beat again. Now why, what was the point? Straight razors are dangerous and extremely sharp. Why would you want them rusty and why would you leave them in a bucket or whatever he said to get them all rusty and scraped up? Because they're not gonna be, there's nothing like a straight razor if you're gonna cut someone. You don't wanna, so it's dull, you don't wanna make it dull. What's the point? You can use any old knife. I think he's- What's the point of that?

1:19:30 Well, back in the day, of course, bad, bad Leroy Brown, baddest man in the whole damn town. He had a rusty razor in his shoe. And I think Joe has just had that in his head. He's like, what can I do? And a razor in it. Oh, you know, he had a rusty razor. Shave his belly with a rusty razor. I don't know. It causes infection. The whole story is nuts. Well, here he is. This is the more typical. This was the gaffe of the week and everybody. And I don't know what he was trying to say, but his numbers are way off. This is biting on the 720 million women. You get a tax break for a racehorse. Why in God's name couldn't we provide an $8,000 tax credit for everybody who has child care costs? It would put

1:20:19 It would put 720 million back million women back in the workforce It would increase the GDP to sound like a wonk here by about eight tenths of 1% It would grow the economy. I don't know what happened there. I really don't we of course have about 325 million people in America in these United States. So there can't be 720 million women. Maybe it was 120 and he sees the one as a seven, because some people draw it funny. Oh, you mean he was reading or he read it wrong? He wasn't reading that I know of, he was just chatting. But I think sometimes in your head, especially if you read something off of a prompter, maybe you saw the number in his head is 720. I don't know. It was really stupid. But now I'm gonna

1:21:10 be balanced here on the pod show, pod show on the podcast. with this one, the African gaffe, which I'm going to say that they were, this was, they were condemning Biden for answering a question and then saying that Guyana was in Africa. And if we listen carefully, you can see that Biden, what Biden said is not really inaccurate. Thank you for being here, Mr. Vice President. Growing up as a child in Guyana, my grandfather used to tell us stories that God made the United States. He told us about the wonders and freedoms in this country. I live my life striving to become an American citizen and I'm proud to have achieved that goal. As president, what will you do that future grandfathers will continue to share the stories of our great nation? I've been to Ghana. I've been all through Africa. I don't understand. What's wrong? Well, Ghana is in South America. Oh, I see what you're saying. But he's been to Africa.

1:22:14 No, he says I've been to Ghana. Oh, I did not hear this guy was talking about. Well, to be honest, if that's what he meant, I pronounce it. Guyana. What did he say? Thank you for being here, Mr. Vice President. Growing up as a child in Guyana, my grandfather. He's from Guyana or whatever he said. I think it's I would pronounce it Guyana. But that's the way I pronounce it. But he says it's local. But he could easily be heard if you're thinking that you're thinking there's a black guy must be from Ghana. He said Ghana. I've been to Ghana. I've been all over Africa. It's just he just misheard the guy. This is not a true Biden gaffe. This should be off the list. And her head is gone. Here it is.

1:23:01 I've been to Ghana. I've been all throughout. Well, you know, he says Ghana but it almost so sounds a bit like Giana. Let's listen again. I've been to Ghana. No, he says Ghana. He says Ghana. He just misunderstood it. Yeah, he's in Ghana. So this is not a legit, this is a non, this is an illegitimate Biden gaffe. Please take it off your list immediately. All those who are collecting these, as am I. You're collecting the good gaffes? Is that what you're doing? Only real gaffes. Only real ones. Excellent. Anyway, that's my Biden segment. That's good. I liked it.

1:23:38 Well, let's talk about the Green New Deal for a second because tomorrow and many people will be listening to this tomorrow. So when we said yesterday you're gonna hear a lot about the kids on strike led by Greta Thunberg. I can't have the perfect lead-in for this if you want to talk about it. We may have similar but what you got? I doubt it because you don't have it from Democracy Now. No, I don't. This is climate news one and two, which leads into the strike that you're going to discuss. But apparently Amy, who specifically asked Thunberg how to pronounce her name, and you can come close to it. She now calls her Greta Thunberg.

1:23:01 I've been to Ghana. I've been all throughout. Well, you know, he says Ghana but it almost so sounds a bit like Giana. Let's listen again. I've been to Ghana. No, he says Ghana. He says Ghana. He just misunderstood it. Yeah, he's in Ghana. So this is not a legit, this is a non, this is an illegitimate Biden gaffe. Please take it off your list immediately. All those who are collecting these, as am I. You're collecting the good gaffes? Is that what you're doing? Only real gaffes. Only real ones. Excellent. Anyway, that's my Biden segment. That's good. I liked it.

1:23:38 Well, let's talk about the Green New Deal for a second because tomorrow and many people will be listening to this tomorrow. So when we said yesterday you're gonna hear a lot about the kids on strike led by Greta Thunberg. I can't have the perfect lead-in for this if you want to talk about it. We may have similar but what you got? I doubt it because you don't have it from Democracy Now. No, I don't. This is climate news one and two, which leads into the strike that you're going to discuss. But apparently Amy, who specifically asked Thunberg how to pronounce her name, and you can come close to it. She now calls her Greta Thunberg.

1:24:35 AMY GOODMAN And climate news. A new study warns the global average temperature could rise by as much as 7 degrees Celsius, or 12.5 degrees Fahrenheit, above pre-industrial levels by the end of the century unless nations move rapidly to slash greenhouse gas emissions. A stark warning comes as world leaders are preparing to gather at the United Nations headquarters in New York on Monday for the Climate Action Summit. UN Secretary-General António Guterres said Tuesday the world is losing the race to avert catastrophe. July was the hottest month ever. These five years will be the hottest five years in record. We see the rising level of the ocean taking place, the highest concentrations ever of CO2 in the atmosphere. We need to go back three to five million years to get the same levels of CO2. And at that time, water level was 10 to 20 meters higher than what it is today. So we are really dealing with

1:25:30 a very dramatic threat not only to the future of the planet, but to the planet today. In Washington, D.C., youth climate leaders called out lawmakers Tuesday for failing to act urgently to prevent a climate catastrophe. Sixteen-year-old Swedish climate activist, school strike leader Greta Thunberg, who was invited by Democrats to a meeting of the Senate climate crisis. She didn't even get Greta right. Is Greta Thunberg, the official pronunciation, Swedish climate activist, school strike leader Greta Thunberg. Greta Thunberg. I can do this now. Greta Thunberg. And people go, what the fuck is wrong with Greta Thunberg? Who was invited by Democrats to a meeting of the Senate Climate Crisis Task Force told the gathering, quote, Don't invite us here to tell us how inspiring we are without doing anything about it.

1:26:18 She added I know you're trying but just not hard enough. Sorry. She said yeah This is a this is a big move. Everybody's in on it NBC I don't know if you saw their climate confessions They put up a website? I contributed. You did? Well, it's basically Twitter in squares. I mean, I don't know what's so great about this. It's pretty funny if you read them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I love meat. I hide my own car because I think that public transit is horrible and unreliable. I compost at home but not at work. I use way too much plastic. I live in South Carolina so we don't have the options to buy products in specialty stores.

1:27:03 I bought a year's worth of freeze-dried food in case of emergency. I'll probably never eat it before I die. So wasteful. This is very funny. The whole thing is hilarious and it's like we should probably have a link in the show notes. Oh, I got it. I got a link in the show notes. People should contribute their kind of lame... They don't have enough room to write an essay. It's like 140 characters or something. Here's one. I use a lot of Q-tips. I can't find a better alternative. I'm eating bacon with breakfast this morning and I'll have it again tomorrow. See this is why Twitter censors. This is why Twitter shadow bans. This is not what NBC wants.

1:27:44 No. This is not what they want. But this is 150 countries apparently. Well, I'm sorry, part two leads you into what you're going to discuss. Okay, good. Here we go. 15-year-old Callen Benson of Maryland called on students and workers to join a massive series of climate strikes planned for Friday. And you have to be involved, and that means you adults as well. You are the ones currently in power. We don't have time to wait till my generation takes over. We need you to listen to the scientists that are showing us that climate change is here and climate change is human-caused. Stop burning fossil fuels, please, for my generation. Organizers predict Friday's global climate strike will be some of the largest climate protests in U.S. history, with actions planned in over 800 sites in all 50 states. More actions are planned worldwide.

1:28:45 This is, I have a big problem with this. New York of course is ground zero for this, that's where all the the New World Order is assembling for the United Nations Global Assembly and that's you know it's no coincidence this is all pre-planned. Greta Thunberg you know took her little sailboat and she's I guess she's been in the States the whole time and all public schools in New York are going to go on strike, which of course is the opposite of what the word strike means. It's not a strike if the school says, okay, let's go, let's go to the... and they could have done it after school perhaps.

1:29:25 But no, so it's not really a strike. It's not a strike in any sense of any meaning of them, any definition. At all, at all, all parents have to sign an approval that their child is going and you know that half of these parents are afraid to say no, they don't want their kids singled out. And what are they doing? They're holding up signs saying you're not doing anything, which of course politicians aren't doing anything except trying to scam money out of this. And you're terrorizing these children. I have an idea. Why not Instead of going on strike, we all won't use our phones for 48 hours. That would probably, that would save us some electricity. How about going cleaning up the beaches? Or sweeping the streets? Or doing anything except just holding prefab signs?

1:30:16 just like communist China where the party put kids out to protest. It's an old, it's not, this is nothing new. You put the children out there. I want to do a quick mention. As this progresses, especially with Greta Thunberg, And that girl who just gave the little speech to 15 year old and she's in tears in her, you know, she's just almost crying. This reminds me of the Communist Youth Party, the Nazi youth, the Hitler youth. Brainwashed kids, easy to brainwash. You got them to the point now where they want to vote at the age of eight.

1:30:58 It's just like, I'm wondering if this is not one great big monstrous social experiment to see how far you can go outside of government. In other words, it's not the United States that's doing this like it was Hitler or like it was Stalin, creating this movement of youth, but just independence, soros, let's say. How far can you go, how far can you get with this, especially if everybody's kind of playing the game, to have a bunch of brainwashed kids who are really borderline morons at this point. They are in fact Sorosjugend. That's what they are. Sorosjugend. So they had a panel on the hill

1:31:40 And it brought in a bunch of kids and this is a typical of a report about this This hearing and then we'll listen to who these kids really are. So here's your teen climate activist I already have like underlying issues of like anxiety And it's just really hard to grow up in a world world full of ifs you know I don't think a lot of people in Congress understand the conversations that are happening in everyday American high schools and it's just like this constant looming uncertainty and it's this weird form of nihilism and and weird just fear that's that's been existing in my generation where kids are joking like what is even like the point the world is

1:32:25 Very convincing, and this is absolutely true. You need to add to that, that kids are constantly being conditioned and trained to be shot at. Even though the percentage that love likelihood that it happens is quite low the drills the training the constant You know we saw the Sandy Hook parents come out with a video today back to school and showing you know kids using their backpack to stop bullets and the skateboard to smash a window to escape you're terrorizing these children and

1:33:09 And yes, that's why you have these anxieties. Throw some SSRIs and antidepressants on top of them. Hey, you're slowing down a bit. Bam! Some Adderall in that bitch and you're going. And this... Teen climate activist is a part of the problem because her name is Ms. Margolin. She is Jamie Margolin from Zero Hour, which is one of the, you know, it's just it's in the group. Here are our partners. They got a whole website you can donate. Not a non-profit. It's a, haha, yes, it's a political action fund and their partners are the Sierra Club, 350.org, the Climate Reality Project, Al Gore, Indigenous Environmental Network, Women's March, Youth Empower, The Years Project,

1:33:55 The Alliance for Climate Education, this is big money. Baltimore Beyond Plastic, Better Future Project, Biodiversity, Buy Buy Plastic Bags, Care About Climate, Chesapeake Bay Foundation, the local ambassadors, Climate Hawks Vote. Earth Guardians, Hip Hop Caucus, iMatter, Mazaska Talks, M40, iMac, Mother Earth Project, Our Climate Voices, Planet for the Planet Seattle, schools under 2 degrees centigrade, schools for climate action. I mean it goes on and on and on and here she is

1:34:33 Talking like the shield that she really is how do I even begin to convey to you what it feels like to know that? Within my lifetime the destruction that we have already seen from the climate crisis will only get worse doesn't sound too much like a paranoid Scaredy-cat kid now does she all of a sudden like that previous clip? What adds insult to injury is the fact that we keep getting promised what isn't there. On college applications, I keep getting asked, what do you want to be when you grow up? The media, pop culture, businesses, and the whole world tells me that I and my whole generation will have something to look forward to that we just don't. You're promising me lies. Everyone who will walk up to me after this testimony saying that I have such a bright future ahead of me will be lying to my face.

1:35:16 It doesn't matter how talented we are. It doesn't matter how much work we put in, how many dreams we have. The reality is my generation has been committed to a planet that is collapsing. The fact that you are staring at a panel of young people testifying before you today, pleading for a livable earth, should not fill you with pride. It should fill you with shame. Youth climate activism should not have to exist. We're exhausted because we have tried everything. We've built organizations, organized marches, and worked on political campaigns. I sued my state government in a lawsuit called Piper vs. the State of Washington. Yeah, sounds like your typical teenage high school kid, doesn't it? Along with 12 other plaintiffs for contributing to the climate crisis and denying my generation's constitutional rights to life, liberty, and property. I thought it was life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

1:36:11 Is it life, liberty and property? Why does she say property? Well, she maybe has a big land holdings. I have no idea. For contributing to the climate crisis and denying my generation's constitutional rights to life, liberty and property. The lawsuit is also arguing that the natural resources of my state are protected as a right under the Washington state constitution. The shellfish, salmon, orcas, and all of the beautiful wildlife of my Pacific Northwest home is dying due to ocean acidification caused by the climate crisis. And communities all over Seattle are suffering from the new fossil fuel infrastructure being built to lock in decades more of climate destruction into my state.

1:36:51 My friends and I were warned to stay inside the last two summers because our city was shrouded in a suffocating smoke from wildfires It gave me such bad headaches for so long and my friends with respiratory illnesses had to go to the ER Is this the future that we have to look forward to? Climate change is real! It's real! It's real! It's real! So these are just a bunch of activists and the entire scholastic system worldwide it appears is in on this If you want to go protest something else, you're not gonna get approval from the school and then the audacity to keep calling it a strike. Please! This is... if the kids held up inside a sign that said China's asshole, they are polluting everything, that would kind of give them a pass, but no. No, no, no, no.

1:37:46 And meanwhile this kind of noise, this kind of nonsense terrifies children. You're hurting your children. Take them out of school, homeschool, anything but this. This is ridiculous. Again I'm going to go back to the idea that the kids are part of a larger experiment. I mean if you look at the The documents for MKUltra, which is a program from the CIA, we've discussed it a million times, that it's supposed to be discontinued, we don't know that. But it starts by kind of frightening, making somebody, creating artificial PTSD by frightening somebody, tying them up, beating them up, giving them electroshock. There's a lot of ways to do it, but it's possible that you can get the same results by doing this, what we're doing, which is what you said.

1:38:28 making the kids worry about getting shot so they're on edge all the time and then pumping them full of this the whole world's gonna blow up if we don't do something about climate change. And then add psychotropic drugs. So the kids are very susceptible to becoming just MK ultra zombies. Yes. And then you drug them. Drugging is another part of that whole experience. It's part of MKUltra, yes. It is. The drugging is part of MKUltra. The terrorizing is part of MKUltra. The propagandizing non-stop. What is the point? Why are we treating these kids this way and what are we trying to get out of it? Well, how about I look at it a different way? I like your MKUltra angle. I would say they took everything they learned from MKUltra and they're applying it.

1:39:16 This has nothing to do with a test. It's application. They know it works. I'm gonna say that's a possibility, but what is the long game? To steal our money and to keep the elite's money safe. Isn't that always the endgame? That is always the endgame. Yeah. All right, we need to do something light-hearted here. We need to change the pace for a second. It's kind of light-hearted. No, wait until you get this. My millennial taught me something that apparently has been all the rage for the past year and you and I missed it. Oh no. Muckbang. Are you familiar with muckbang? I've heard the term.

1:40:05 Well, don't look it up because that'll ruin it. I'm not looking up anything. I'm writing it down as a possible show title. M-U-K-B-A-N-G, Mukbang. YouTube videos have millions of views and it's all from South Korea. I'm here to look at a completely new unusual trend called Mukbang. It roughly translates as food porn, but not in the way you'd hope. It's more kind of like a food selfie where users are logging on eating lots of food to camera and then thousands of other people are logging on to watch them.

1:40:42 There's more to this report. We already, we discussed this on the show. I had the clip of that guy who used to eat food. You know, he's very popular and just eats like huge amounts of food and then bitches and moans and gets sick. And this guy's got millions of viewers. Okay. Yes. That's mukbang. It's, yes. and the Keeper Watch is some... We did not miss this. Well, but we didn't get the name Mukbang and we didn't get some other important facts. Yes, we did miss a lot of this story. Since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming while eating large quantities of food has become more and more popular in South Korea. The people who participate in mukbang have become minor celebrities in their own right, to the point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys, or the more popular term, don't laugh, BJs.

1:41:47 So they've become BJs. Yeah, well, I agree. We didn't get BJs. These so-called BJs have learned that there is such a thing as a free lunch. This is Park Soo-young, one of the country's most popular BJs, for whom mukbang was a full-time job. Better known as the diva. At one point, she was making up to $9,000 a month through her fans' donations. John! Exit strategy! We can do this! $9,000 a month compared to the girls who do makeup videos is minor. But we can do ASMR! Um, mukbang. Here's an example. This is a guy eating a pizza.

1:42:39 We could do this. Well, maybe you're not in, but I think I need to do some mukbang. I think you should do it. I think you should do it and I'll watch. But listen to the headline. VJ becomes BJ. I mean, could it be any better? It's obvious. The promotion is right there. Ready to go. Yeah. Well, there's another dead end. I'm the number one BJ in America, buddy. I think we should look into it and start thinking about why it's popular to watch people eat. I think with a homeless situation, this is just a mockery. This is the elitist mockery of people who don't really get a good meal, rarely. I am with you. I'm totally with you.

1:43:30 And yeah, but there's millennial arrogance. Well not entirely I don't know. I think it is I think it's more of the Millennials being oh, you know, there's another guy can't eat Let me know. Hey, let me have to eat a big sandwich in front of you Well, the keeper watches this one guy in Instagram who always it's not like huge quantities, but he eats a Cookies and stuff and he's so into it and it's funny to watch. It's not him consuming an entire meal like the BJ's But there is something about food that and that's not for me I'm not food centric at all. Yeah, and I'd be like, I'm hungry now fuck it. I'll smoke a joint I mean that's who I am but a lot of people are very very food centric and there's something going on with this which is societal and

1:44:22 And I... Everything's societal. Yeah, but I don't know if it's just Millennials. Hi, it's Adam Curry. Everybody, I'm your BJ. It's the Muckbangers Ball, everybody. We gotta go to Korea. You have to do it with a Korean accent. Got them old TG blues Gonna bring you some news Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage the vocal stylists and Mr. John C. DeLorey. O-T-G Goddamn O-T-G blues I'm going O-T-G Gonna bring you some new I'm an O-T-G kind of guy O-O-O O-T-G

1:45:17 I'm an old teen's G. Got it, got it. Yeah, unfortunately had the wrong key on his blues riffs. It should have been the key of bad Thank you. Hugh Allison. Yes a couple of OTG mentions I forgot a very important part of my report about Las Vegas Bruno Mars who we went to see is The og otg artist and I had completely forgotten what happened About I think it was a year and a half ago Bruno Mars

1:46:08 started for he was the first one he was started forbidding cell phones at his concerts and and we didn't know this or I didn't think about it and when we went to go into the theater the the park theater there at the MGM there were people you know throngs of people around a cardboard box I thought maybe was like some merch some merch merchandise and a little bag, looked like beer cozies actually. And so we just walked right through and we went up to the metal detector and I put my self, my iPhone, my cloaked iPhone 5 down. The keeper had her little clutch and she had her iPhone in there and we just went through.

1:46:49 And then we're in there we realize everyone's holding on to these little like bags and they're locked with the same mechanism similar to what you have in the clothing store so you can't take the tag off. They have to demagnetize it at the end of the show. Yes this is by the way I should interrupt you and mention this is a thing going on in the local schools. Good. And there's one school district here that has required the kids to come to school I think it's a matale which one of the school districts and they show it on the news all time it's a little gray bag and they put that to put their cell phone in there and then they have this little blocking magnetic locking mechanism that you dislike exactly what you said it's like the ones in the clothes.

1:47:31 And then you can carry that, you can keep it or put it somewhere, but you can keep it. And at the end of the school day, you unlock and you get your phone back. And at first, the kids all objected. I don't know why, because you're supposed to be in school, you're not supposed to be on the phone, but OK. But then they said after a couple of weeks, the kids they were studying harder and everyone got into it. They said, no problem, I don't have to worry about taking messages while I'm in class. It's like a big deal and I think this is gonna be a national thing. You're just at the beginning of it if you notice it at that place. But this is, I think, and it's a California thing, I believe this will be a national trend once, because who the hell wants to teach a bunch of kids that are looking at their phone?

1:48:15 Well, in China, they, and there's a 10 minute video which you'll find in the show notes. Here's about 50 seconds of it. Teachers at this primary school in China know exactly when someone isn't paying attention. These headbands measure each student's level of concentration. The information is then directly sent to the teacher's computer and to parents. China has big plans to become a global leader in artificial intelligence. It has enabled a cashless economy where people make purchases with their faces. A giant network of surveillance cameras with facial recognition helps police monitor citizens.

1:48:55 Meanwhile, some schools offer glimpses of what the future of high-tech education in the country might look like. Classrooms have robots that analyze students' health and engagement level. Students wear uniforms with chips that track their locations. There are even surveillance cameras that monitor how often students check their phones or yawn during classes. These gadgets have alarmed Chinese netizens. But schools say it wasn't hard for them getting parental consent to enroll kids into what is one of the world's largest experiments in AI education. A program that's supposed to boost students' grades while also feeding powerful algorithms. China is asshole! So the kids wear a headband.

1:49:38 that tracks their brain activity and changes color based upon their engagement so the teacher can see where they're at and they can see from each other where they're at and the whole thing is you know You know, if there's a reason to get rid of phones, it's because they want to control the technology in the schools. This is only beginning. The BBC, by the way, are doing the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of with children and apps and phones with the backing of Prince William. And the prince's brother William... Making a splash with a new app as well the BBC launching the aptified cyber bullying It was created with help from Prince William's cyber bullying task force It's called own it and it recognizes if a child is typing something that could be hurtful And then ask the person to rethink what they're about to send interesting you can also identify language suggesting a child is in trouble and Encourage them to speak with a trusted adult. I don't know about you, but that's what we call a keylogger

1:50:40 It's a keylogger! They're logging the kids' keystrokes and tracking what they're writing. Sounds great, Prince William! This is what could go wrong! It's fantastic! That, and from the BBC. Disgusting. They're idiots. That's really disgusting. You and I have talked about the surveillance network known as the Ring Doorbell. Now, in this case, which is what you want, is a positive message. The ring doorbell saved the child.

1:51:25 Police started investigating after Marker's young child showed up at school with a burn on his hand. Officers later recovering thousands of ring video clips from inside and outside the child's home near 32nd Street and Bell. Police say those videos show the two adults assaulting that six-year-old. Police say the abuse happened because the child struggled with reading words or sentences. Oh I'm so happy the ring doorbell has saved the child once again. Some things of note. They discovered videos? No. They got a warrant and got 2,200 videos. The part of the report I'm puzzled by is the videos of outside and inside the house. I don't know what that's about. Maybe they have some other device.

1:52:11 Maybe they have an Amazon Alexa, one of those screens. So this is I think ground zero of what these devices truly are intended for and as you see the cops just go and get a warrant. It's not a problem at all. Take that shit off of your door. It's ridiculous. Yeah well tell to the judge good news I've been to this town actually Fort Collins Colorado I've been there it's beautiful kind of a Colorado tech town but it's also kind of historic.

1:52:50 If I recall, if I recall well they finally beat out Comcast in a, I think this took them a couple of years, multiple lawsuits going on since 2017. They now offer their own one gigabit per second service, flat rate, $60 per month to every resident. Now the rollout is going to take a little longer of course. Luckily it's not that big. They're doing like 20 homes a week so it's going to take a while. But good on them and you know and they claim net neutrality. Well we'll see how long that lasts.

1:53:31 But, you know, that's, I think that's a positive message. I'm very happy about that. And I'm elated about the new candidate for the ultimate OTG phone. It has just been announced. It was announced by HMD Global, the home of Nokia phones. They are coming out with the Nokia 2720 Flip. And the 2720 Flip is a flip phone, it's running KaiOS, which I kind of dismissed because Google made an investment in it. And there are, say they have Twitter app, Facebook app, Google services app, but you can block all of those in the settings.

1:54:21 It's specifically in there to allow you to not have those services. It's a Linux based phone. It's you know, that's what Kai OS is and There are guys now who have Who have it this device? I don't think it comes on the US market for another couple of weeks. I It's 4G, it's plastic, it's cheap, it's $150, it has a web browser, it can do some email, it can do some texting. It doesn't have the full keyboard, but it does have big ass buttons. to do your typing with. And I think that I'm very excited about this. I mean, I will forego the hearing aid benefit of the cloaked iPhone 5 just to get my hands on this. This is really a smart dumb phone. I'm very excited about it. The Nokia 2720 Flip.

1:55:14 which should be available in the US, unlike the Banana Phone, which they never came out with a device that worked for Verizon or worked for T-Mobile, only AT&T. So, I'm excited. This is the new anti-phone review! Well, since it is the anti-phone review, I wanted to play fair. And I wanted to allow the guys from 9to5Mac, who I consider to be absolute authorities in all things Macintosh, all things Apple, all things iPhone, and they reviewed the most important features of the new iPhone 11. There are 200, John, 200 improvements. This phone, you, I mean, how can you not have this phone?

1:56:01 Especially when you hear, I mean, obviously the most important improvements to the phone are up front in the report. How's it going ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls? In this video we explore over 200 new, yes, 200, 200, iOS 13 features. You don't want to miss this. Be sure to like and subscribe for more videos like this. So arguably the flagship feature in iOS 13 is dark mode. There you go. Dark mode. The number one feature of your thousand dollar phone is dark mode. And that's it. That's the level that they're at now. Dark mode. And listen to the benefits of dark mode.

1:56:45 And dark mode allows you to use your phone in dark environments comfortably. So what you'll notice is that a lot of the interface gets darker. Oh no! John! In dark mode, a lot of the interface gets darker. And that makes it so much easier to use when you're in a dimly lit environment. All the applications are going to be darker. Even third party apps can join in on the fun. This is a feature that we've been looking forward to for quite some time and it's finally here in iOS 13. Yes, finally it's here. Dark mode is here. You know, the funny thing about this that you mentioned it.

1:57:23 is that you're right, this is like the big deal. Which is beyond me, but okay. And there was one article with the headline, once you go dark mode, you'll never go back. Which is a play on a pun. And it's like, okay. This is really, you're reaching the bottom of the barrel here for this sort of thing. Now I want to bring up something that I noticed at the berkeley bowl and then apparently there was comedy day was last sunday and me me and that's why he was in town is the big day it's the big thing and nick where is there to be or did the whole beer contingent lagoon is serving thousands of beers the three of them. And.

1:58:11 But I saw it at Berkeley, I didn't think much of it, but apparently they saw this happen quite a bit at the comedy day as they're selling beer. And that is the guy, I'm watching, the guy's in front of me, he's just kind of a skinny millennial classic, really skinny with a t-shirt on to make him look even more skinny and a bun, a man bun. and a kind of a scraggly beard. And he's checking out and he takes his hand with his Apple Watch on it and he clenches his fist. And this is exactly the way you're supposed to do this, because they were seeing this exact same thing at the beer fest or at the comedy day. He clenches his fist and then he kind of got his hand and his fist in the air like he's protesting something. And then he lowers it down to the Apple Watch down into the

1:59:02 RFID reader or whatever it is that these things have now, these certain terminals. And it beep beep, that means he paid for it. He goes down and he goes beep, and then he holds his fist up and goes yeah. And now he did it in dark mode. It's unbelievable. Yeah, this is very sad. By the way, we're seeing the exact same thing with the exact same way. Everyone did the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Clenched fists. Yeah. Yeah. Paying for beer. Oh my goodness. By the way, for the trolls and for people listening, the concept of OTG is not getting some stripped down, you know, Android. The point is to have no notifications, to have, to be able to communicate

1:59:49 short messages, text message mainly, to be able to call someone and in great necessity. And I only have one example. It's Saturday, we're out and about, we're doing stuff, I get a text from John it says newsletter and you know we have a whole process for this and I can't have the man waiting so long for me to proofread or whatever. And so then it'll take 10 minutes, but I can get my email I can open up the the document and I can you know do some rudimentary copy paste if there's something that needs to be changed The point is you don't want distraction. You want a long battery life no distraction But you're in communication and of course you want a bail thing $25 ham radio because that's what the future is for us But this yeah the the the Apple cult

2:00:43 Is I don't know that when you see a consumer do that. You've got to be really happy as a Tom Collins guy It's like when people have a real reaction like yeah With Apple Pay. Yeah, I mean that you want it. You just got to love that but that child is clearly you know lost yeah, I was saying that the The idea of holding a clenched fist and then paying like you're some sort of Superman, Dick Tracy or whatever you think you are, it's gross. It's kind of disgusting. Even though when we were kids we all desperately wanted the Dick Tracy wristwatch two-way radio. And now it's here, it's better than ever, and just get it off of me. I don't want this. Just get it out of my life. Get away from me.

2:01:32 It's got to be so easy to design some sort of a hack that can pull your data off of your watch if you're walking around. I mean, it's out in the open. Yeah. You should be able to bump into somebody with a little reader that can... Don't you think? Yeah, it's possible. Terminal, why not? Well, my ham radio now comes in dark mode. dark mode. I have some interesting news about the unhoused situation which is not just San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Austin, New York, Portland. It is everywhere in the United States but before we go there let's listen to

2:02:11 some motivational speech from KFI Los Angeles the big 50,000 watts this is the John and Ken show. Now we begin with Chris Ancarlo from KFI News who has an interesting story from the LA County Board of Supervisors they want to find a way to get more homeless people to vote let's get Chris on. Hey, how's it going? Yeah, well they are looking at a couple of things at today's meeting having to do with homeless people. One of them, as you just mentioned, they're helping to get more homeless folks registered to vote. And I talked to a couple of the people that were pushing for this afterwards.

2:01:32 It's got to be so easy to design some sort of a hack that can pull your data off of your watch if you're walking around. I mean, it's out in the open. Yeah. You should be able to bump into somebody with a little reader that can... Don't you think? Yeah, it's possible. Terminal, why not? Well, my ham radio now comes in dark mode. dark mode. I have some interesting news about the unhoused situation which is not just San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Austin, New York, Portland. It is everywhere in the United States but before we go there let's listen to

2:02:11 some motivational speech from KFI Los Angeles the big 50,000 watts this is the John and Ken show. Now we begin with Chris Ancarlo from KFI News who has an interesting story from the LA County Board of Supervisors they want to find a way to get more homeless people to vote let's get Chris on. Hey, how's it going? Yeah, well they are looking at a couple of things at today's meeting having to do with homeless people. One of them, as you just mentioned, they're helping to get more homeless folks registered to vote. And I talked to a couple of the people that were pushing for this afterwards.

2:02:51 What they said is the problem that they keep running into is that you get homeless people who don't have an address and so they go online and they try to put their address in or they try to put the nearest intersection in which is what they are legally allowed to do when it comes to registering in person but the online website won't actually let them do it because of the way the state has set everything up. So it's not a county decision it's actually a state decision and so because of that it's harder to get more people who are homeless registered to vote. I talked to one guy who was homeless and I said, you know, why is it important for homeless folks to register to vote and vote? And he said, literally this is the only thing that we have. Of course it makes so much sense. Don't help them. Get them to vote. Promise them stuff. Have them vote for you. Put them in dark mode. This is very cynical, this move to register to vote. So the Los Angeles Times published an op-ed

2:03:50 and I think it's very important for what's going on. And it may have already have influence that we were unaware of or we certainly will be aware of soon. And this came out on August 23rd, so we missed this. And the title is, How an Idaho Court Decision Will Increase Homeless Encampments on LA Streets. Here's what happened. Last September, so that would be a year ago, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Now the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Is that like kind of the last stop before you get to the Supreme Court? It's one of the last stops. There's also the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth. There's a bunch of them. Okay, but the ninth is one of the hard at. They're the ones that are always stopping anything Trump wants to do. That's the one around here. That's the San Francisco one with Roger Radicals. Although Trump has been softening it.

2:04:42 by replacing some of these judges. Well, last September, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued an alarming decision that strips cities of a critical tool in meeting the responsibility of protecting public health and safety. In Martin v. City of Boise, the Ninth Circuit became the only appellate court in America to rule that a city's ordinance against living on city streets violated the U.S. Constitution's prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment for those who have no other options. Six judges of the Ninth Circuit who opposed the decision have warned that the ruling would have dire practical consequences for hundreds of cities and their residents. Unfortunately, they are being proven right. The court's position is unworkable and wrong on what the Constitution requires. That's why as lawyers for Boise, I guess they're the op-eds, we're asking the US Supreme Court to weigh in. So there we go. We're going to the Supreme Court. That is an interesting

2:05:45 caveat to this. And what might that be? Well, the Ninth Circuit ruling says that it is not meant to cover individuals who do have access to adequate temporary shelter, either because they have the means to pay for it or because it is available to them for free, but who choose not to. Now, the way I, my mind was like, okay, So if you're camping and the authorities or someone comes over and says, hey you can't camp here but here's room in this shelter and you say, oh I don't want to go, then take a hike. If I read that correctly.

2:06:33 And there's tons of shelter that people don't want to be in them, so that could be a roundabout way of not succeeding in solving the problem other than clearing everybody out of, in this case, downtown Austin. It won't change a damn thing about people not having a place to live or wanting to live there. So maybe it's not quite as dire as the Los Angeles Times says, or as this op-ed says. And you know, the way you do it is you chip them. Well, there is a long way to get to that point. But I'm serious about this. If this goes to the Supreme Court, it's interesting. I've stopped. I'm not going to condemn this idea. I condemn the idea in general. But the idea of chipping the homeless is pretty radical.

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2:16:52 So I'm like, there's a story that didn't get a lot of, it got some play, didn't get as much as it should have that I want to play just because it, just one of those stories that just personally bugs me. And this is about the payroll tax online system that folded out of the blue, leaving everybody high and dry, which is very common with these online initiatives that that are, they sound like a good idea at the time and then you give them too much, you give them your money and then next thing you know, or you trust your data with them. These things are, they come and go like crazy and this is the payroll tax online scammer story. A survey finds that 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck so you can imagine the shock that tens of thousands felt when MyPayrollHR suddenly closed this month and they didn't get paid. Meg Oliver now on the fallout.

2:17:45 The hometown diner in Ridge, New Hampshire is closed on Tuesdays. It's the day owner Bonnie Rosengrant pays her 23 employees. Today, for the first time in 10 days, she was able to do that. It was very hard because I know a lot of my employees are paycheck to paycheck. On September 5th, Rosengrant was shocked to learn none of her employees had been paid because the payroll company she used, MyPayrollHR, had folded. Her employees and tens of thousands of others across the country were left without a deposit in their account. It's very emotional. We're a small business, so every penny counts.

2:18:28 MyPayrollHR was an online service that handled payroll for small companies. When it shuttered, it was holding nearly $35 million in wages. These images from the Daily Mail show an FBI raid Monday on the upstate New York home of the company's CEO. The mysterious collapse of MyPayrollHR impacted some 4,000 businesses across the country, from exercise companies in Chicago to animal rescue shelters in Nashville to fire departments in Florida. Rosengrant is desperate to find out what happened to the more than $30,000 that is missing.

2:19:07 We want our money back. In addition to not paying her employees, Rosengrant told me the company hadn't paid her quarterly taxes for the last two months either, nearly $16,000. Nora. So the money's gone. beside the fact that you don't pay your quarterly taxes, but once a quarter, it's unlikely, the last two months, she says, it hasn't been paid, it doesn't make sense. But other than that, this is the kind of thing you ran into during the dot-com era. In the late 90s, there was all these companies that were, they were well-funded, they had all the big venture capital money behind them, and they were losing money, but they were soaking, they had cash flow, and they were,

2:19:52 Get money and data from people and then they just would turn out there half of these places are fly-by-night operations I don't trust online these online systems. I don't even like using MailChimp that much. Oh, oh I saw a different one. It was really good. I wrote it down somewhere. I'll send it to you another email service Well, we've, I've, you know, I learned my lesson. Then again, like LinkedIn is a good example. LinkedIn, uh, I was, I was a premium user. I took my premium subscription, threw it out because I'm not going to pay them anything because up until about six months ago when you downloaded your data, your contacts, you would have their email address. Oh yes. Just remember this. Yeah.

2:20:41 Yeah, and I'm bitching about this and now if you download your your contacts They don't give you the email address anymore if you want that you can go through some sales system They'll sell it to you. They'll sell you your the day that you should own Yes, this is Microsoft's idea of a good way to go a good deal. Yeah, I think far as I'm concerned This is the biggest scam ever. I don't collect these names. I So I don't get their phone number, I don't get their, so I can't use, I mean, it's basically I have to do everything off of LinkedIn, which I don't want to do. I mean, even MailChimp says make sure you take your data off of our system every so often because you never know, which I think is honest and they should do the same thing. I can't move my LinkedIn contact list to any other system because Microsoft just won't give me the data. I get a list of names, so what?

2:21:32 I mean, why am I paying? And I was paying the premium. I'm not paying the premium if I can't even get the data I want, if I want to download it and have my own little, for my own address book. This is the common theme with all this online crap. I thought you would get a little more worked up about it. I've been worked up about it for a while. John C. Devorak's Pet Peeve of the Day. Vape Wars, yes it's a vape wars, wars on a vape, VVC's are real. Yeah, that's what producers do. It's Vape Wars! I have only two bits for the Vape Wars today. I think we've given everybody just about all they need to know. Except of course it's always fun to watch Dick Durbin talk some shit in Congress. How many 50 year old chain smokers

2:22:28 Can't wait to get unicorn milk flavoring for their vaping device It's all about kids and the vaping industry despite all their public denials Have targeted these kids and effectively recruited our children to be the next generation of Vapors for life How much nicotine is in that little vaping device the one that looks like it's a flash drive for your computer? The equivalent amount of nicotine in vaping as in a total pack of cigarettes, 20 cigarettes, you get with one hit on a vaping device. Nicotine is a very addictive chemical. I know from my family experience, we all know, from those who try for long, long times to quit.

2:23:15 using tobacco cigarettes. The nicotine draws them back time and time again. Oh, fantastic. So one draw, one draw of the Juul gives you the equivalent amount of nicotine as 20 cigarettes in one draw. It's amazing. That seems unlikely. It's not true. Of course not. It's total bullcrap. But Dick Durbin should be listed as a liar. Yeah. I did receive notice from a insider of Big Tobacco advertising who obviously shall go unnamed. Would you like, are you interested in hearing what the theory is there? I think I'm sure the theory is much better than anything we've come up with. Well it's better than Dick Durbin.

2:24:04 Well, Dick Durbin. So I read, all of the biggest vape brands are subsidiaries of big tobacco companies at this point, including Blue, BLU, that's the one you've seen? That's the one, that's the alternative one I kept trying to get the name of. And they advertise on TV all the time and I still can't remember their name. They're owned by Imperial Tobacco, no small player. Juul, which as we know is JTI, Altria. Glow and Vipe, V-Y-P-E, are owned by BAT, British American Tobacco. These were either acquired or developed in-house as a response to the threat presented to their traditional business by independent vape products. Any regulatory measures aimed at certification or testing of vape products, anything that stops or slows down the vape revolution will be a net benefit to them.

2:24:56 Tobacco, the tobacco is always to be a key component in any possible innovation introduced by the big tobacco. Given the massive production and logistics of tobacco across the world that they historically support, vape of course bypasses the need for tobacco entirely, and people hooked up on puffing any smoke other than from tobacco is a problem. Each new vapor is one less current or potential smoker. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole marijuana prohibition was lobbied by tobacco companies for the same reason. Since vape became a thing, a great time and money was invested in trying to come up with a way to use actual tobacco extracts in vape, or better yet, find a way of bypassing liquids altogether to use dry tobacco in non-combustibles. It's called HNB, it's an acronym for heat not burn.

2:25:51 A stopgap measure for creating vape-like effect along with good old tobacco were traditional menthol and new capsule products, where one is supposed to crush a small flavored capsule located within the filter, thus making it like a vape, plus all of the nicotine and tar delivering goodness of a traditional cigarette. Those were especially popular in South America where they featured stuff like two or even three capsules inside a single filter. So it's all about innovation. and how they're really... It's innovation. Finally, the thing that may have contributed to attacks on vape at the moment is the ban on menthol and capsule cigarettes coming up next year in the European Empire and some other countries. And there's an FDA proposal to ban it in the US too. And this makes sense because we heard about menthol, menthol, menthol. So that's even being misappropriated. The menthol and vapes is being abused by people who want to get rid of menthol for cancer sticks.

2:26:47 The stuff that replaces the flavored tobacco will inevitably be vape. It is therefore important to slow the competition down while the customers make the switch. I would expect the small manufacturers and Chinese suppliers will be subject to some bad press over the next few months. Whichever of the big tobacco's own brands is not mentioned in the MSM is probably helping the campaign. Love and Light, a source in big tobacco advertising. Well, it makes total sense. It makes nothing but sense. And my wife said something the other day. She was like, she's against this whole discussion. She's, what's the big deal? She says, everyone, a couple people died from vaping. She says, six or four, no, 400,000 people a year can be attributed to smoking.

2:27:33 They're not talking about smoking deaths. They don't even mention it in comparison. So all these three people died from vaping here in the United States because they were vaping vitamin E or whatever it was that was hurting them. But they don't even compare it to, they don't even mention, let alone compare it to the almost half a million people who die from smoking worldwide plus And it's just like left out of the conversation and you got Dick Durbin going on, who cares? It's small potatoes is what she says. And she's right. And if you look at what the kids, the memes they're sending around, it's like, you know, it's literally, you know, like

2:28:15 tobacco 400,000 deaths, you know, 30,000 deaths from 50,000 deaths from car accidents, 30,000 from opioids, eight deaths from Tide Pods, six deaths from vaping. So the kids are seeing it. They're not totally stupid. But, you know, meanwhile, Dick Durbin's of the world are, I guess he's lobbying for big tobacco. Where's he from, Illinois? Maybe. He's from the Midwest somewhere. He's from Illinois. But generally speaking, the way you do the lobbying efforts, if you're in Congress, I was lectured about that guy from Utah who was

2:28:56 The old, the older senator from Utah, his name eludes me for some reason. Someone in the chat room will mention his name, gray hair. He was like the number one lobbyist insofar as the liquor industry is concerned to keep the, keep interstate shipping from happening. And he was, I was told by a big importer, this information may be dubious. But he said, what? Yeah, Orrin Hatch. Orrin Hatch is the big, he's just, no, you can't do this, you can't do that, you have to, you know, these blue laws, and he uses the excuse that they're from Utah and they don't drink because they're all Mormons in Utah. Right. And so, but he's actually representing Southern wines and spirits at the time. Now, they're less of a player than they used to be.

2:29:45 which was a group out of Florida, which may or may not have connections back to the bootlegging era. And he would, and they were, and Southern Wines and Spirits was one of the biggest against, oh, you should not be able to ship from, for example, K&L Liquors in San Francisco, which has a real big business sending stuff to states where it's allowable, which turns out to only be about 15 states. Texas for example, even though they produce wine, I don't believe I can ship a bottle of wine to Texas. Correct, you can't. Why? I'm still trying to get the homeless people off the streets. I'll deal with liquor later. Just saying.

2:30:29 And that's the way you go and Dick Durbin is a good example is you take somebody that doesn't seem to have any relationship to an operation in Florida. Yeah. And you know, and they do he does the bidding for them. That's the way it works. According to an insider, the Mueller report. Yes, this is a corrupt world. Something interesting, you know, ever since you introduced us to the swine fever, the pig Ebola that appears to be at least killing half of everything in China, everything pig, I just saw an interesting article today

2:31:11 It said, Hong Kong's Green Monday sees breakthrough for plant-based pork in swine fever hit China. I'm thinking that's interesting. Just in the time we've got all this beyond meat, I can't believe it's not meat, you know, whatever all these brands are. Yeah. Do you think they could really try that? Do you think the Chinese would go for that? Do you think they'll go for plant-based pork? Are they gonna fall for this? Well, the problem is that the idealism doesn't work because in fact, I learned this a long time ago in my culinary exploits, is the Chinese, when you go, for example, get some hanging pork, which is generically called barbecue pork, you got a big piece, you chop it up, you put it in your fried rice, you use it for all sorts of things.

2:31:57 The Americans always, oh I want lean, they want lean, it's like the bacon. I want lean, I want lean, I want lean bacon. The Chinese want fatty because the source of energy really comes from the fat. You're just getting protein from the lean which you may or may not need too much of, especially if you're a mature adult. But you do need energy and the energy comes from the fat content. And so they always want more, they want fatty barbecue pork and fatty bacon. And so I don't know how you can get that component in the bull crap product. It's gonna all be lean, which is the Chinese don't like. Hmm. All right. Well, it was just a thought. So I just think it's gonna be a flop.

2:32:46 You know, I've been observing the advertising, or I should say lack thereof, on Tucker Carlson cancelled tonight. Because he is still a huge target of cancel culture. Sure. And he... Pharma has been a problem, you know. I think Fox has taken a beating on that show. Well, I think they... I think he did a native ad. Oh brother, that would surprise me. Yes, it was so, I mean it was almost like back to when did we have the swine flu, when I got swine flu 2010, 2009, 2010? Yeah, where there were the lions. Yeah, so I think they're trying to bring that back because

2:33:34 If you look for the headline, within the next 36 hours a super flu could spread like wildfire across America. And Tucker kicked this off yesterday with that douchebag doctor who he always brings in. The guy who, you know, they all hate weed and it's always anti-good meds and it's always chilling for the big pharmaceutical industry. Listen to this. A new report by the World Health Organization says it's just a matter of time, maybe not that much time before a major flu pandemic. Okay, now before we do that, let's remind- Hold on. Wait. There's not, they don't have something on the horizon? There's not a bug that they can identify that's come out? This is just a vague, a vague report that one of these days? Well, it is the World Health Organization

2:34:27 Let me remind you of the kind of report we got from them in 2014. even outbreak responders would experience dating back to 1976 to 1995 people that were directly involved with those outbreaks none of them have ever seen anything like it

2:35:04 We were all gonna die and then they, oh and that guy came back when he had Ebola and he was live on every news channel and he just hops out of the ambulance, remember that? The whoopable just go inside here. So the world heard it. And there was also the nurse who said screw this and she wasn't gonna be put in, she went bicycling. So the World Health Organization are a bunch of douchebag shills and tuckers all in. A new report by the World Health Organization says it's just a matter of time, maybe not that much time, before a major flu pandemic. In today's hyper-globalized world, the report says the superflu could spread worldwide in just 36 hours and potentially kill 80 million people. Are we prepared for that? 80 million people are gonna die! Could we prepare for that? Dr. Mark Siegel is a Fox Political contributor. He joins us tonight.

2:35:52 Are you worried about did you hear that they had a little sound effect in there? They're like a little emergency beep bop, but we're sure that wasn't you know what that could have been It could have been a timer so that because they have to talk about this amount of time It is including his intro. Okay, okay. You are nailing it my friend this report will cut its two oh 15 on the timer the b-broke comes almost at exactly two minutes I think you're right in just 36 hours and potentially kill 80 million people we prepared for that could we prepare for that dr. Marc Segal contributor two minutes Are you worried about this doctor?

2:36:35 Tucker, I'm worried about this because flu is a very changeable virus. It mutates all the time and if we see a flu that we haven't seen before and we don't have any immunity to, we could see a lot of deaths from it. And already in a regular flu season, to give you an idea, kills half a million people around the world and infects That's a billion people every year. That's the flu that we have immunity to. That's the flu that your flu shot protects you against. But if we saw a new version, a pandemic strain, a serious one, not like the one we saw in 2009, but a really bad one with air travel, it could spread around the globe in a matter of days and we wouldn't be prepared for it. We could make a pandemic vaccine, but that'd take months.

2:37:17 We have a universal flu vaccine in the pipeline, but that's going to take five years before it's ready. We need it right now. And another thing, why don't we have the kind of detection software we need to tell me if someone's sick before they get symptoms? People travel on planes, right? They're close together. They're coughing on each other. They could be in Asia one day and here in New York the next day spreading a serious killer like the flu. Flu spreads very easily. It lives on surfaces. It spreads through the air. It kills you. It can get you quite sick. It can cause pneumonia. It can cause all kinds of other infections. I want to know that a person has it before they're even sick. We have the technology for that. We're not using it. And I want that flu vaccine that we can use against all strains that come out. What's going to get us in big trouble

2:38:04 is a mutation. Something that mutates from a bird or a bird-like creature to humans. We've seen it before. We saw it in 1918. If it happens now, you're going to also see a lot of panic. And one more thing, Tucker. Bio-terror? We've talked about that on the show here. You could take a flu molecule in the laboratory and change it so it's one, just a slight change genetically, so that we've never seen it before. Horrifying. Some of your reports are reassuring. Tonight's is not among them. Dr. Siegel, great to see you. We're all gonna die! I find that to be the most despicable. But what, but was it, you think it's part of a program of- Fuck yeah! Advertising? Yes! So there's gonna be more and more until they finally have the punchline of who the advertiser is? Because there's no evidence that there was an advertiser there. Oh no, this is part of the- The World Health Organization came out with a 36-hour warning, super flu. They repeat this verbatim, add some biological terror to fill up the two-minute window they promised.

2:39:04 And think about it. They finally got the measles. Oh, measles. Oh, measles. Measles. Measles. Everyone's ready. They're ready to get flu shots. I think the advertising starts next week. They're gonna push it. Okay, but now you have to follow it. Of course I'm gonna follow it. I love this. I live for this. Love it. And it reminds me- Well, that guy's an idiot. That doctor. Well, wait for this. If the superflu really shows up, this is the report I would have done, but of course I wasn't getting paid to do it. Look at what's going to happen to the people who are homeless on the street.

2:39:43 That's gonna be some nasty shit. That's gonna be some nasty shit. In fact... That's an angle for a good story. If you're a local news producer, I would say you just heard a very valuable... and donate... you heard a very valuable executive level idea that the troops should be paying attention to. Dynamite. Yeah, exactly. And it reminds me a little bit I think it was... It must have been Star Trek Deep Space Nine. I think episode 11. What is this place? A sanctuary district. 21st century history is not one of my strong points. Too depressing. It's been a hobby of mine.

2:40:38 They made some ugly mistakes, but they also paved the way for a lot of things we now take for granted. I assume this is one of those mistakes. A bad one. By the early 2020s there was a place like this in every major city in the United States. Why are these people in here? Are they criminals? No, people with criminal records weren't allowed in the sanctuary districts. Then what do they do to deserve this? Nothing. Just people. Without jobs or places to live. So they get put in here? Welcome to the 21st century, doctor. I think that was filmed in, you know, 99 or something. Before that, maybe. Yes, visionary. That's right. Get your flu-infested campers. And one way to roust them if everybody gets sick and there's some epidemic going around.

2:41:38 Hey, you got an ISO for end of show? I think we should end this. I have a... I think we've been going pretty long. Unless you want to do something. I got one you can try. Okay. Take a look at this. This is the, this part of one of the Biden series. This is kids hear words. Make sure the kids hear words. Make sure the kids hear words. It's okay. That's all I got. That's all you got? Well, I can't count on you, apparently. Okay, I'll make an effort in the future. What am I going to do for this show? I don't know. I do have one clip I'd like to get out of here. OK, let's do that. Sorry about that. No, it's not your fault. Snowden here, Snowden versus Trump is back in the news. That's not being reported in the mainstream. The Trump administration filed suit Tuesday against NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden over his newly released memoir titled Permanent Record, seeking to block his publisher from forwarding any revenue from book sales. Snowden tweeted in response,

2:42:39 This is the book the government does not want you to read." This comes after Snowden, who's been in exile in Russia since 2013, told CBS News Monday he would return to the U.S. if he was guaranteed a fair trial and a chance to share with the American public why he leaked NSA documents. I'm not asking for a pardon. I'm not asking for a pass. What I'm asking for is a fair trial. And this is the bottom line that any American should require, right? We don't want people thrown in prison without the jury being able to decide whether what they did was right or wrong. Yeah, apparently the new DNI, was it the director of DNI? Who's the new guy? Yeah, the new guy. Yeah, he has written a letter saying time to

2:43:31 Renew the... what is it? What's the name of that act? It's the... It's the Patriot Act. No, it's the follow-up to the Patriot Act which has, you know, the same so-called protections of FISA. The National, yeah I know what it is, National Defense Authorization Act. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's like... It's got the good stuff in it. No, it's like, well this is, because I was reading, I can't believe it, I don't have this article somewhere. It's like the, isn't it, it's not Patriot, it's the America Act. Oh here it is, I got it. I'm sorry. USA Freedom Act. Oh yeah, there you go. That's the one. Yeah, so he, yeah, Joseph Maguire.

2:44:18 He says the USA Freedom Act... or Maguire... I am Maguire. The USA Freedom Act of 2015 preserves significant national security authorities, enhances privacy and civil liberties, protections, increases transparency... bullshit. Yeah, and arrests Snowden. Yeah, arrests Snowden. And the administration supports a clean and permanent reauthorization of all the USA Freedom Act provisions of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act That will expire in December 2019 including the lone wolf and roving wiretap authorities and the acquisition of business records including call detail records under title 5 of FISA the USA what's the name of this act again the USA Freedom Act How is that freedom? Forget about it reflector 33 Charlie, that's your freedom right there everybody hams will save the world

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2:46:02 Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas, FEMA Region No. 6, all the governmental maps in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DuBois. We return on Sunday with another edition of the Best Podcast in the Universe. Until then, adios mofos and such! In dark mode. Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette, often if you smoke yourself to death. In Italy, one million smokers have taken up e-cigarettes. Market researchers Euromonitor International estimate the industry will be worth $7 billion by the end of the year. In January, e-cigarette makers in Italy will have to pay 80.5% of their revenue in taxes.

2:47:07 So e-cigarettes are now subject to a 92% tax in the state of Vermont. The bill is aimed at curbing youth vaping. The new tax is not actually going to affect cigarettes, it's only going to be affecting e-cigs. And I also suppose other substitute products. Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate that you hate to make him wait, but you just gotta have another cigarette. They took a large group of people who wanted to stop smoking. Half of them they gave e-cigarettes to and the other half they could choose whatever they wanted for nicotine substitution. The patch, chewing gum. It turned out many more people were successful using e-cigarettes, let's call it vaping, than any other method of smoking secession. Government is so dependent

2:48:09 on that tax dollar that comes from tobacco, it's an enormous amount of money. It's 11 and a half billets, you want to get out of petrol. They will be very reluctant to see that go down. If people switched off tobacco and went on to vaping, then that tax take may reduce and maybe that's the real reason. In neighboring Yemen, Houthi rebels claimed responsibility for the attack. Of the 400 down past And a super gay mustache We thought they were all gone But now here comes a neo-con They want the one with Iran So we came up with a plan A bomb in the Saudis

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