Pink Pound

00:00 Ah, he's going down. Watching girls bang their heads and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's well it's hot everywhere else but it's not hot here It's 60. I'm John C DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning! Man we've been having 98 days here. It's been freezing all July Yeah well yesterday our air conditioner went out

00:43 Why is that funny? I'm sorry for buying a cheap one. Okay, all right Dvorak It's what i could afford on the donations we get okay well considering today's donations i was surprised you could even afford to buy anything so First of all let's just start with important news how was your experience with the quake? What? There's no quake! You didn't feel anything You know, this is the funny thing. This is the classic... you know there's some fires like a hundred miles from here. Are you guys okay? Oh yeah look I'm just saying that people in Vegas felt the quake! Yeah they sure did.

01:28 Yeah, well feeling the quake is just like some little nothing. I suppose you could feel it. That's because the quake was closer to Vegas than it was to Los Angeles and that guy can't get over these reports. Oh! Southern California, Southern California... This is in the middle of the Mojave Desert. It's 150 miles minimum from Los Angeles. This is like for me having a quake and having Sacramento to San Francisco Bay Area is 90 miles. 150 miles is another 60 miles further, it's ridiculous that people are making this... Okay I just asked okay get on Twitter! What you did was touch the nerve. I did get on Twitter and rage tweet about it Here's something that's very peculiar that you never heard about which

02:26 While this is going on, there's been quakes up in Canada around BC. I get the BC Quakes clip. Three earthquakes rattled the B.C coast today all of them significant and all of them classified by seismologists as aftershocks to a quake that hit earlier this week on Wednesday so that quake here was a magnitude 6.2 felt hundreds of kilometers away And here, early this morning there was a 4.7, 5.6 and a 4.6 all within the space of about 10 minutes and all that comes less than a day after another quake an unrelated one rocking Southern California It's a reminder that on the West Coast bad news can always be right around the corner so the CDC's Tanya Fletcher explores just how prepared we are

03:15 It's freeze-dried food, it's prebuilt survival kits. It's water filtration or storage. This for example is our... Zenya Platten sells earthquake kits at the Total Prepare store in Victoria She says sales tend to go up every time there's a significant earthquake Yeah we've been seeing a bit more foot traffic and a few more phone ins with questions and things online traffic has ticked off a little bit The earthquakes are happening... It stems from the series of morning aftershocks off BC central coast enough to jolt some out of bed Since they changed the scale, we really have no idea what it means. Because I... You recall the Washington DC quake? No Yeah yeah, I was there! It cracked the Washington Monument What do you mean you don't remember this? Of course you remember this Oh I remember the cracking of the Washington monument yes So let me just see... because I remember that one First of all these quakes down in the Mojave

04:12 They showed it some videos and this some of those videos are pretty violent Yes of the stores, and I'm thinking this was supposed to be a six two or is this the five five? Seven one seven one is what they said. It was Yeah, seven ones bothersome that they've changed well here I'm looking at the August 23rd 2011 magnitude 5.8 earthquake now does this before they changed oh to the new momentum? It's been changed for years and years. Well, this is eight years ago so I'm asking was it longer than that? I think it's still after the change. Okay so 5.8 was pretty significant! I remember that one...I was there So a 7.1 on the new scale... I am just annoyed by this change Yeah we've talked about it for all these years We haven't talked about it but bitch about it constantly You have 6.2 in BC area off the coast But that doesn't mean anything compared to...this is useless

05:08 The thing that is interesting is the location of these quakes in California. It's not the San Andreas fault... No, it's nowhere near? It is right near the—actually not even—it's almost on the China Lake weapons test site Yes, I hate to say it. You don't have you don't hate this a it? No, I'd love to say it What are we doing there are we testing the earthquake machine again or did you guys bore too many's up too many tunnel see the DC thing I kind of understood you with all the secret train tunnels everywhere and some even claim that they've you know Tunnels of trains that go all the way to Colorado To the yeah back upside now We've heard this we don't know if it's true

05:52 But if you start drilling around in the earth, yeah you know... You can get stuff going wacky. Look at the northern part of Holland, Groningen That's because they're fracking right? That's because of fracking yeah Yeah. So anyway, but it's out of control up there in that Holland area where the fracking is just going nuts and nothing like this 7.1 I spoke to people in California who are you know...I lived in Los Angeles I was a San Francisco I don't think I really witnessed any earthquakes when I was in San Francisco and Los Angeles several You know, you get real blasé. Whatever it's a quake is fine. Even when you witness them you still stay blasé? Yeah, but the people I spoke to were like this was a little more than the blasé type feeling some people were rattled by this one well there are a lot of people rattled about the 89 remember this story with PC computing was a major player back in 1989 with the Loma Prieta earthquake

06:56 And it was hit the peninsula quite hard, mostly the peninsula and it hit the Bay Area in general. But people have never experienced any sort of earthquake there's a low note with a big quake that is disconcerting. It really shakes you right as a bone rattler and it makes you very uneasy. There was a whole bunch of people who were from New York that were in the offices of PC computing on that day and they flew out as fast as they could, they just got out of town so fast. They would refuse to come to California after that and it had to be because this low note occurs in many quakes. Oh its like ground loop resonance, its a horrible... I think you're right, it goes through your bones because it is a vibration your body gets in tune with

07:50 Yeah, it's a harmonic vibration. It's the one that they use to kill people. Wait a minute! Who uses that to kill people with? Well we have the evidence there has been weapons developed like a five cycle note or something at very high frequencies and it shakes people and kills them. Blows up your liver or something like that. Oh wait I think I have an example of it... I'm hoping that it be your time. He's got to be better. I Know hey, it's a It's July what can I tell you? I don't have the oh yeah here it is this is the one okay everybody get ready We're gonna kill ya This energy chime we can kill you with that one for sure

08:43 It definitely gets your attention. But anyway, I'm always bothered by these California state as a state is like 800 miles long or something and it's Something happens in California, it really only affects a very small area of the giant state. So you're not worried about anything happening up there are ya? No I still think the big whopper that's gonna be dangerous is supposed to hit Southern California according to all the experts. Oh it won't hit Northern California? Not... no the next one Well, eventually something's gonna hit Northern California. I'm lining up backup hosts so just want to get you on there. Hey if anyone could do the show in a quake it's me! Yes if you live... Lodenhousts Yeah hey I think we both may be wrong A rare occasion

09:39 Well, it's... we have to wait. We- But what are you referring to? The shoes? Yeah the shoes! I'm just trying to get out of it. I'm sorry?! Go on. No, I'm not trying to get out of anything. My research has not stopped we have a small disagreement John has the feeling that Nike set up the controversy over the Betsy Ross shoe with Kaepernick as a PR stunt to sell more shoes Ivy immediately disagree I believe it was blackmail that they were shamed into doing this and money might have been paid or should have been paid if it was blackmail. We both agreed that if the shoes go on sale then John would be correct, If not I would be correct. I think we're both wrong and that is based on a podcast because gosh you can't get anything from the mainstream! I kept trying to find out who actually

10:31 brought this into the media. And again, it's unnamed sources people familiar with the matter from Associated Press from PBS from The Wall Street Journal all three of them reported on this story None of them have any quotes Nike did not mention Kaepernick in any of their communications Kaepernick has not publicly communicated anything regarding the matter but of all people Adam Carolla sometimes confused with me the actual pod father Does a podcast with Mark Garagos and his client as we discussed in the previous episode is Callan Copernic Copernic Capernic amongst other prominent people like Jussie Smollett so fine fine guy to do a podcast where they do it's called

11:18 What is this podcast called? It's called Reasonable Doubt and Corolla asked Garago straight up, what's going on with this. I would be wildly inconsistent if i didn't scream at your boy Colin Kaepernick for the... By the way how racist is that?! Sorry, but you can't leave me. This is cracking me up right away You can't just say your boy Colin Kaepernick unless he's not black I don't know what's going on Carolla? I would be wildly inconsistent if I didn't scream at your boy Colin Kaepernick for the stupid Nike tweet but

11:54 Or whatever he did, but the interesting point that was... He didn't even get the facts straight. I know this but Garagos is gonna come in and he has some interesting data points How does that work? Why does Nike cave why does he give a shit and what's going on are you teasing or should we talk about it first? I'm asking okay Okay i just saw an article that nike increased their market cap by three billion dollars since dropping it um now He'll repeat this and we'll talk about this maybe later, but this was a meme that was propagating very quickly. Oh Nike 3d they made three billion dollars No one seems to understand what market cap is about anymore So hey man, they did a good job They made three billion dollars three billion dollars richer everybody getting paid no This stock price went up a percent

11:18 What is this podcast called? It's called Reasonable Doubt and Corolla asked Garago straight up, what's going on with this. I would be wildly inconsistent if i didn't scream at your boy Colin Kaepernick for the... By the way how racist is that?! Sorry, but you can't leave me. This is cracking me up right away You can't just say your boy Colin Kaepernick unless he's not black I don't know what's going on Carolla? I would be wildly inconsistent if I didn't scream at your boy Colin Kaepernick for the stupid Nike tweet but

11:54 Or whatever he did, but the interesting point that was... He didn't even get the facts straight. I know this but Garagos is gonna come in and he has some interesting data points How does that work? Why does Nike cave why does he give a shit and what's going on are you teasing or should we talk about it first? I'm asking okay Okay i just saw an article that nike increased their market cap by three billion dollars since dropping it um now He'll repeat this and we'll talk about this maybe later, but this was a meme that was propagating very quickly. Oh Nike 3d they made three billion dollars No one seems to understand what market cap is about anymore So hey man, they did a good job They made three billion dollars three billion dollars richer everybody getting paid no This stock price went up a percent

12:46 Like a point and a half. Oh, so it's market cap value and it can go down by five billion tomorrow but this was... It is interesting that this has now brought up. Let me explain just real short. The market cap is short for market capitalization which is for all practical purposes which has to be separated from enterprise value which people can do on their dig and look that one up But market cap is if you sold all, if you took the stock today's price of the stock and liquidated it at that price. At that moment, that's what that number is right? And they're about $108 billion. The stock went up over two days, one up about a point and a half

13:26 It goes up, it goes down. It goes up it goes down and they won't report on the losing billions of dollars because that's not what you'd do! The only time its interesting is when someone hits the trillion dollar market cap such as Apple and then they drop below it and it's not like anyone made or lost money except perhaps investors who play in the stock market we continue. I'm asking. Okay I just saw an article that Nike increased their market cap by three billion dollars since dropping it And I my guess as to what happened. By the way, he's guessing he knows damn well. Are you privy? Any of this stuff? Yes, yes they showed they the shoe was shown to him. He had expressed a reservations about them using the shoe. They decided to drop it somebody

14:23 at the, I assume in Nike's headquarters apparently a disgruntled somebody decides they're going to leak it to...I want to say The Wall Street Journal. Now this is interesting So he says, he presumes it was a disgruntled employee. No there was no mention in any of these articles a disgruntled employee or someone who is pissed off so he's really making an assumption and I think he's full of shit here And it becomes a firestorm all this week But Nike has the last laugh because I just looked this morning and they've put $3 billion on the market cap while Under Armour, Adidas and Puma were all down substantially in this market. How does the process work where they vet the shoe with him? He's you know he's the face of the Just Do It 30th anniversary campaign

15:26 By the way, people I don't think understand just about how effective that has been. They know what they're doing. They know who their demographic is. Their demographic is not Ted Cruz And their demographic is not, you know that governor... and I don't want to mispronounce his name. Is he trying to say the demographic is black people? What is he trying to say? He's telling us who it's not. Dushay or dushi in Arizona so that's not the target demo. The target demo are people who are who have a Viewpoint and People have a viewpoint that's their target debt so social justice warrior persuasion Here's here's what I want to say

16:26 Here's my honest take on this. I draw a great distinction between stuff that is done in public and stuff that is done in private And I do, again, draw a distinction. Now, I don't like that we live in a country where we vet shoes with Kaepernick and then he gives the thumbs down because they have 13 stars on it. I don't like that's what our society has become but we're living in it and if people are doing it for publicity then I really don't like it. If the intent is to quietly go about this and get on with our lives, I have a different

17:07 a viewpoint of the transaction. And you are telling me that they show it to him, he gives notes and then theoretically they quietly go back and implement his notes without the... Like we would never know that this shoe existed if this person from Nike who was disgruntled didn't leak it? It's all I can, I'm connecting the dots because he certainly there was no way that he was the one who was saying that or releasing that or anything else. And obviously you know, the shoe was timed for July 4th The leak and the story went viral because of the Fourth of July and so that's...I'm with you in terms if it is done quietly look i've got reservations about which

18:00 what was done. He certainly wasn't the one who released it." Yeah, I got an idea for you to pitch me. So he's talking about the leak...I don't know! For sure it seems that the shoes were already at retail? Yes that's what I understand and because that's how they're winding up on eBay yeah and that would make no sense with his basic thesis is that the shoes were kept a secret in this one guy leaked them which isn't obviously the case I would posit, ooh! Get to use my word. It's my word. I would say that...I'm still sticking with my original thesis but it's possible that what could have been the fly in the ointment was someone at the company saying hey

18:50 This looks if we bring out these shoes on July the 4th this looks like exploitation of the American flag And this is not gonna go over We should probably you know and they didn't they decided to pull the shoes or do something and then maybe bring them out later? And then maybe they blamed it on Kaepernick I don't know who blamed it on Kaepernick. I think if there's a disgruntled employee, he is the one who blames it on Kaepernick. Yes exactly! I'm pretty sure that Kaepernick had nothing to do with it Why are they running a shoe idea past him? Did they bring in George over and say you like this color? John, If your gonna run something past a guy whose ultimate input can stop the shoe You dont' do that when they're at retail

19:37 So it's just bullshit. Kaepernick may have nothing to do with it I'm pretty sure he doesn't and I think he's been told to just shut up, and you know we'll take care of it later But now let's look at this market cap because this story went viral like oh Nike rakes in three billion dollars Okay so lets just take the stupidity this stupid interpretation of that Like it was a good thing for them not to do this What does that mean for future social justice movements by this company or any other brand? That has something to say is the idea personally I don't think it means anything because well some people were all jacked up about it. I don't think the company kept one way or the other I know but it was up and down cause I'm talking about perception This is what people are this is this is the story now The story is they understand that but a company themselves, I don't think

20:32 You're missing my point. From a social justice perspective, would it now be in Nike's... We know has nothing to do really with market cap people believe that now so let's just leave it as it is from a social-justice warrior perspective Is it good or not good for Nike to portray its brand values in its product and in its advertising? Based on the fact that the market cap went up when they clearly showed their brand values I don't know. I would say it makes a difference personally you're being too literal about it, okay? It's alright I'm trying to ask you a different question and you just not understanding what I'm asking

21:18 Well, what do you get it would clarify. Okay? So forget that well You think that my Nike's gonna be more react no I'm not talking about Nike I'm talking about people People will they now thing we're gonna give a shit about my 90s market cap. I don't know I completely befuddled by what you're trying to ask me Okay, never mind. Actually I'm annoyed by the fact you don't understand what i'm saying We know the market cap is bullshit The perception is they made 3 billion dollars That's just a perception Can we just leave that as it is? That's only the perception amongst idiots! I know Who do you think I am talking about?! Will the idiots... Are you trying to make the claim that social justice warriors are idiots Alright

21:59 Yes, I am. And here's Andrew Doyle writer and comedian and gay man at the BBC complaining about the social justice warriors and brand values who are hijacking gayness and pride! I think we're all used to the idea of corporations and companies cynically exploiting gay people for a quick buck I think, yeah absolutely it's always been the pink pound you know it's a long ongoing thing. Now what happened is there was kind of critical mass and I completely take on board what you're saying but we have to accept that there is a sense that this slightly distasteful this is a flag after all this is related activism in the concept of pushing for equal rights and now it has been manipulated as a kind of indicator that you are good, that your virtuous

22:44 That guy talks so fast. If you could get, you can't do it on the fly obviously but if you could tweak his equalization? It's always because he would sound like Ben Shapiro A British gay Ben Shapiro. I went into a very popular Japanese chain, and the Mats told me that they were proud that they didn't discriminate against LGBT people. And my feeling about it is why would you? My default expectation is that we don't live in a society where this sort of thing is acceptable. It reminds me when people started to campaign wearing safety pins to broadcast the idea that they're not racist Again, I would assume you weren't! I'd feel more comfortable about these corporations doing this

23:42 If, for instance they'd have done the same before the Equality Act in 2010. If they've done the same before Section 28 was repealed in 2003. If they did the same before the age of consent was equalised in 2001 We have to accept that they've taken a market decision To make as much money as possible and calculated that See I guess what I was getting at is Is the era of brand values and virtue signaling those brand values, which really aren't their values or mission statement but they're marketing values. Is that over? Or is it really just starting to ramp up big And so on the one hand I feel that people feel vindicated by saying, see when you are a social justice warrior and then you win as a company. Here on the other side is the BBC and I like the term The Pink Pound – I thought that was a good term – who this guy's saying hey we're being exploited and it's disingenuous. So he'd get in line

24:45 Yeah, of course it is. Yeah but what do you think? To me it sounds like its just on the cusp of getting worse that's I guess thats what my... It could be! I mean it's possible. Its not going to get better and these guys would look for whatever happened it would be like oh market cap went up thats great because that means we worked. Oh the market cap went down oh thats great then shows that we have an effect yeah You can't win with these people Right By the way, I just safety pin thing. I forgot about that. I was thinking about we follow I remember we followed that movement I Remember the safety pin thing We talked about it But I'm thinking I got to get everyone to send me lists of things like this short-term phenomenons there were

25:28 fetish and we've kind of not even noticed how fetish they were. Gangnam style! I mean... Here's Katie Hopkins from 2016 with a report on the safety pins My biggest rage this week has been about safety pins and race hate so i am sick to death of hearing about race hates in the wake off the leave vote I think it's entirely a conjecture that has been dreamt up by sore losers from the Remain campaign in order to try and make it sound like race haters are people who voted Leave. That we are thick, that we are stupid and racist. And frankly... We Are Not! That is interesting. I completely forgot that this happened around Brexit vote

26:20 So it was a way to virtue signal that you're not a hater like all those Brexiteers. Where my safety pin? We used to wear safety pins as earrings back in the 70s And we'd have a safety pin, you know, someone had them through your nose I Had one of my lapel and it was it was all the rage bloody It was all the rage tells me to meet Let's talk briefly about the 4th of July which was America's celebration Which it was a real dud let's start with the compilation just before the celebration from the M5m who are

27:07 pontificating about what they expected it to be. Donald Trump has... Sorry? Did you know that it took two million dollars away from some, uh, from the national parks? Yes! Those bastards. Donald Trump has hijacked the nation's previously nonpartisan 4th of July celebration Is this just norm-defying or is there anything dangerous about him It's just obscene And the speech is going to be dreadful They're gonna have their Confederate flags flying and their license plates and all kinds of troublemaking You will hear criticism critics, you will hear a celebration of self. There'll be a lot of other people that are going to meet like in a storm and you're gonna have a real conflict there's all kinds of catastrophes they're not sure if the bridges over the Potomac can handle the tanks he's turning it traditionally nonpartisan event into a Trump focused campaign style rally sure looks like a partisan reelection rally on public space Donald Trump's campaign rally in Washington paid for by the American taxpayer

28:03 campaign event. Some kind of a campaign speech, a political rally, partisan event, combination Trump rally and Kim Jong-un style military parade. The president's vision bears a closer resemblance to the chest thumping displays put on by authoritarian regimes. This is the kind of military display that we were used to seeing from the Soviet Union I'm thinking Red Square North Korea Egypt to hope for violence would be of course treasonous not to expect it would be naive. Oh, they were all so disappointed these people are out of control by the way I'm gonna give you a borderline because I know where he got that used to put it together. Now from a production television production standpoint what a piece of shit show

28:58 That was horrible! Had- did no one think that the ballistic glass would get wet and look like he should start singing, uh... Rhythm of the Rain? I mean it was real- first of all what's the deal with the ballistic glass that's new. I have no idea, but this is one of those situations where I guess...I don't know. It's the snipers. Secondarily! If you use the Lincoln Memorial as your backdrop, don't put people in front of Lincoln!! You could not see Lincoln sitting there, the grand majestic shot that it was supposed to be. This was a botch

29:42 A total botch. It looked like shit, it made the president look very weak behind this glass... You could not see the statuesqueness of the setting The weather was sad I don't know if the tanks didn't roll out because of the weather No they were never intended to roll out that was all conjecture Dreamed up by MSNBC that there would be rolling tanks I did like seeing the stealth bomber That was cool Like that thing, I don't think I've seen one fly that close to the ground. That's a beautiful plane! That was badass! And they got the Blue Angels and they did their little things... They have the Blue Angels here all of time? Well we got Fleet Week, I mean they have them every... Fleet week cost more money than that event did apparently Every football game we had these fly overs But it really, you know, the speech was very meh I understand what he was trying to do

30:41 Now, luckily...luckily he made it a little bit more exciting with this massive gaffe. "...and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown." Our army manned the airport It ran the ramparts It took over the airports! It did everything it had to do!" And I'm like, did he say their ports? Did it just come out wrong. No, he said the airport. He said they took over the airports now there's now of course you know this was not his fault as you can imagine

31:18 No, there was an excuse. Yeah the teleprompter went out it kept going on and then at the end it just went out! It went kaputt so I could have said uh... And actually right in the middle of that sentence it went out That's not a good feeling. I guess the rain knocked out the teleprompter So but no it's not that. I knew this speech very well so I was able to do without a teleprompter The teleprompter did go out and it was actually hard to look at anyway because there was rain all over it. You know, I'm not buying that. I don't know but here's what we're missing in here and this is something we because we never I don't think we collected any clips of this

32:06 In fact, I'm pretty sure because I don't remember him. But I do remember the moment where he rants and raves and goes on and on about Obama and his teleprompters. Yes! And then this... And now we got him all addicted to teleprompters out of the blue which is a you know... Teleprompters are what they are but it's worse than that On whitehouse.gov It has his speech And he says, our army manned the air. It rammed the ramparts it took over the airports it did everything it had to do Come on! I mean...it's either in the prompter correctly or its not Its either in the speech correctly or its not He was either sabotaged? But I doubt a little bit of rain... I would suspect It was dumb Now, it made Twitter fun Cause I just love the memes

33:03 You have George Washington in a flying, trying to board an airplane. So of course when you bring it up as sabotage or is it done on purpose? Sometimes you have to wonder… I don't think this was on, but he really wanted this to be a great salute to the military. He loves all that stuff and he was narrating the flyovers you know? He wanted this to be a great show The weather was crap and the setting was crap it was a shit show! It was horrible Well...I don't know one way or another because i think unlike most people unless I were standing there in their audience

33:43 I never saw a second of it. I didn't see one second of it was at the wrong time and this for the West Coast, I had other things to do so you covered it for the show? Yes, I did. I covered it for the show. I liked seeing as I said, I liked seeing our stealth bomber. I always know I'm an air guy aircraft guys. I'd like seeing that now any all this unhinged crap over what it costs please give me a break And now they're all butthurt that he didn't, uh... He didn't go off and make it into a campaign rally. And now they- well I didn't clip it because I got bored of it But they were calling it Schoolhouse Rock explanation of our history Okay

34:28 Who cares? Jeez, it's like Gangnam Style. But then we get the news dropping all of a sudden which always seems to happen on show days. Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested on new sex trafficking charges A source tells CBS4 federal agents took him into custody yesterday at a New Jersey airport after he was indicted on one count of sex trafficking and one count of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking Federal agents also searched his home. Epstein has long faced accusations of sexually abusing underage girls, he'll be in court tomorrow Now this is going to have a long tail Well the thing is what happened? What changed? What did they do? Did someone bust into his place and grab the evidence against all these highfalutin folk

35:16 that could be, you know embarrassed by the Epstein revelations which would definitely occur. Well there's two things is something else that took place last week and that was the unsealing of all over these court cases which is about 2,000 documents one of which very clearly indicts President Trump then Donald J Trump businessman as a pedophile rapist I mean, you know it's a Jane Doe and a Tiffany Doe. And these are not being re-litigated there is apparently two new indictments against Epstein that will be open to the public tomorrow

36:00 But, you know what you're reading on the social media just to show you the derangement is ah ha ha he's going down. The pedophile, the hedge fund is going down and Acosta his lawyer who should go down because the deal that Jeffrey Epstein got was clearly an elitist bull crap punishment this guy should be behind bars for the rest of his life with his cohorts What's the Maxwell daughter? She was the recruiter it all ties into even I think it even ties into that nexium sex cult It's a mess now is Trump involved in it. I don't know It seems doesn't seem like his style well He's not afraid of it and night, and I can I think this shows proof 2015 CPAC when he was being

36:54 vetted by the CPAC for the role of president. Sean Hannity asked him specifically about Bill Clinton, here was the answer. Now he wouldn't say that if he expected himself to have a lot of problems I would agree with that So, who... I mean but he probably was close enough to it to know that Clinton has a lot of problems. Yes And he was on the plane or he knew Epstein? I don't think Trump was ever on the plane. I think he flew his own plane, pretty sure he was there at least once Oh yeah you're probably right about that if he ever went there Why would he go in Epstein's plane? He'd be one of those planes It's like going out... this is one of those things where You want to go to dinner with some friends and a bunch of people are gonna go oh we'll pick ya up Nahh take my own car cause i dont wanna stay

37:55 So just to reiterate for people who are new to the case, Jeffrey Epstein very wealthy hedge fund manager. He had a he has I think still an island and that's where he allegedly flew underage girls down there that were recruited and then they would wind up having sex with his guests Prince Andrew has been implicated who was the prince from Monaco Whatever his name is, Grimaldi. Last name Grimaldi. Bill Clinton... Now there's a lot of Bill Clinton in this he apparently took 25 or 26 trips on Epstein's private 737 airplane known as the Lolita Express but this would really come down to who was blackmailable?

38:41 And who do they have on camera? Because that's the part that is interesting in all this paperwork, is Epstein had cameras everywhere. Presumably to blackmail politicians and other rich folk. Yeah it's a technique So I personally don't think anything's going to come out of this except maybe Epstein will go to jail for a long time where he belongs but I don't think we're gonna see anything massively interesting come out of it I'm not going to argue with that. Probably even the Clinton stuff won't come out, although we still have the opportunity for... The opportunity for what?

39:23 Well, Bill's getting old. Let's put it that way. Oh! Is it Bill's time? Is this the embarrassment that just goes a little bit too far for the Hag-Hillary assassination group? I don't know. Do you have anything on this? I think he was sick we kept bringing this up and I'm not gonna bring it up anymore So I take it you don't have any clips or anything on this No, I have none but I do have a clip backing up to the Trump flub. Okay. There was one of the big stories that was this week was the census the census question as to the yes are you a citizen which has become a scandalous question and so I have two clips on this and one of them is funnier than the other but let's start with the PBS version of this story, which is an important story. President Trump said he is considering issuing an executive order to get a citizenship question added to the 2020 US Census

40:17 This, after the Supreme Court ruling last week to block the federal government from adding that question. Mr Trump spoke to reporters this morning before he left for a weekend at his New Jersey golf club I just spoke with the Attorney General. We have a number of different avenues, we could use all of them or one. Uh, we're doing very well on that issue. We're spending 15 to 20 billion dollars on a census! We're doing everything, we're finding out everything about everybody — think of it! Fifteen to twenty billion dollars and you're not allowed to ask them are you a citizen?

40:54 I don't like it when the president says, quote we're finding out everything about everybody. I don't like that! That's not what the census is supposed to be it's very simple. Supposed to be a headcount but they've gotten carried away because they use it as marketing information. Precisely! Yes marketing you're so right It's used for marketing. All right, so meanwhile NBC decides to do a story on the census story and now you have to listen to this just complete presentation classic NBC which is part of the MSNBC operation other way around but it's same thing. So why do they present? Now this is a story specifically about the census question but listened to the way that's presented and what

41:43 with spurious information because apparently they had no other outlet for this information. So they decide to slam Trump in an awkward way with this story, I just was beside myself. In Washington President Trump is engaged in a new war of words tonight with former Vice President Joe Biden and refusing to back down on his battle to get a question about citizenship on the census. Hans Nichols has more Tonight, fresh off his military-themed salute to America... The future belongs to us. ...the president blaming this flub about George Washington's army... It took over the airports it did everything it had to do On a teleprompter snafu...

42:28 And that's not a good feeling. And today the president announcing he is still trying to find a way to ask a question about citizenship on the census after the Supreme Court had stopped the administration's efforts. We're working on a lot of things, including an executive order. Mr. Trump's comments come as government lawyers scramble to find a legal way to carry out his orders, despite their conclusion earlier in the week that no such pathway exists. Meanwhile in the race to take on, President Joe Biden telling CNN he was not ready for those debate attacks from Senator Kamala Harris on race and busing in the 1970s I was prepared for him to come after me, but i wasn't prepared for the person coming at me. The way she came out... She knew Beau, she knows me. But insisting that he wouldn't be caught with his guard down against the man he wants to replace. The idea that I'd be intimidated by Donald Trump? He's the bully that I knew my whole life!

43:24 He's the bully that I've always stood up to. I don't think of a bully at all, i just don't like being taken advantage by other countries If you look what we straighten out, I call it the Obama-Biden mess We're straightening it out As for that citizenship question Administration lawyers told a federal judge in Maryland today That they would be pursuing all options But the government has already started printing census forms without it This whole clip was like a ratatouille of hate Trump. First they blasted Trump for saying airports and then they got this Biden part about him and Kamala Harris, what does this have to do with the story? Well they had to fill 1 minute 54 seconds apparently My jaw dropped when I watched this package it was like

44:15 How about talking about the story and not Biden and Harris and Trump in the airport? This is how bad NBC has become. That was a piece of crap, that report. NPR did a piece on the census and they brought in the former from 2000 who did the 2009 census So the former census director, I guess you'd call him. Kenneth Pruitt and I have three short clippies to share of his interview. The remarkable thing about what happened in 1942 basically but using 1940 census data with a roundup of the Japanese-Americans on the West Coast

44:55 is that we're still talking about it, 70 years later. Every census that comes along once again the Japanese case gets brought to the surface and the argument always is you can't trust the Census Bureau look what they did back in 1940 so yes it cast a very long dark shadow this is going to be a census as its shaping up right now which will leave a partisan marker on the census I think for a very long time Now, let's just get something very straight because I've heard this Japanese roundup, Japanese-Americans. It was super egregious because they were Americans!

45:32 And, you know they're conflating now a question about citizenship which has been on many many census questionnaires with this absolute stain in American history unfairly. And here's why this is all the problem. Would you talk a little bit more for people who still don't understand this issue? Why it is that as a question like that could suppress people's willingness to participate The current environment in the United States is one of mistrust of government, having nothing to do with the census. And also anxiety about privacy again having nothing to do with a census having to deal with Facebook revelations and so forth and so on So it's a setting right now or political setting in which its kind of very hard to do this job

46:19 There's only one definition of a good census and that's one that counts everyone correctly, only once and only in the right place. That's what makes for good census." And I guess that means you count everybody even if they're here illegally? The problem with that is it's not just about redistricting or number of representatives... It does really all evolve around money! census is inaccurate, what effect does it have? Well if there's a differential undercount that as some groups are missed at higher rates than other groups or some regions geographic areas are missed at higher levels in other regions the amount of money that is tied to census results is in the billions. The amount of that money does not change only its allocation changes

47:08 So a state or demographic group which is undercounted in the census will get less than its fair share, and by definition those which were totally counted at 100 percent they will get part of an unfair share because they're getting the money that's left over from people that were not counted. That's a big consequence because you're talking about health care, you talk about transportation systems. You talk about disaster preparedness. A large number of things which get federal support are allocated on the basis of the fundamental census count. And now you understand why politicians don't want any segregation! Because then if someone says, hey I'm not a citizen but i'm here that'd be great. Thank you very much! You do not count for extra money or something like that? No. No?! There's no evidence of that. You still get good money If you are there one reason...you may not get the representation in Congress Okay Which would have something to say about it. Which is also big deal yeah. Yeah and I don't think the money is part of that

48:09 Now, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Supreme Court say look you guys are it's a mess come back and ask again when you've got your shit straightened out? I'm paraphrasing to an extreme degree. Or maybe that's exactly how Ginsburg said it but... I don't think they said that but I think this is what they meant Okay so can they come back in time from before this is done or...? According to the NBC report which was executive order information They're already printing things without the question on it Well then what's the problem? But we don't know well because, well first of all we don't know that if that's true because the NBC report was so poorly done it could just be a pack of lies. I don't know

48:50 I mean they can stop the printing process and start over. I have no idea, I know Trump is adamant about this. It's something like 19 billion pages or some crazy amount of paper that's going to be used for this. Just to go back to Joe for a second and I think it was possibly the same interview Joe is a nice source of gaff material. Not unlike Trump, really! It's old white guys... take us as an example can sometimes be very funny The question was about NATO, and see if you can find the gaffe.

49:40 in Europe that would suck us in the way they did in World War I and World War II. It's being crushed, look at what is happening with Putin while he, while Putin is trying to undo our elections he IS undoing elections IN Europe! Look what has happened in Hungary, look what has happened in Poland, look what has happened in Moldova, look what is happening! You think that will happen on my watch or Barack's watch? You can't answer that but I promise you it wouldn't have and it didn't Okay, well I don't know. I mean yeah sure there was something in there really just blabbing away It's pretty hard to follow if he said anything. He did say you did call Merkel a former Chancellor I don't know that was the gaff no No, I think oh well pinpointed here for ya in Europe look what's happened in Hungary Look what's happening? I'm sorry let's go back happening with Putin

50:27 While Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in. So first he's saying while Putin was trying to undo our election now he's actually doing this in Europe but listen what he says... Europe look what's happened in Hungary! Look what's happening in Poland! Look what's happening in Moldova! Look what's happened in... You think that would have happen on my watch or Barack's watch? It actually did happen on your watch Joe Biden the Russians meddled in in the elections ON YOUR WATCH!!! He was vice president at the time. Yes Very good catch and I definitely did slip past me. Yeah, I think it would have caught that I'll play at one time in context and then we'll be done It was their watch it was by Biden's watch when it happened Oh Bidens is being crushed look at what's happening with Putin while he well Putin is trying to undo our elections He is on doing elections in in Europe Look what's happened in Hungary? Look what's happened in Poland? What was happenin move up? Look what's happening

51:29 You think that would have happened on my watch or Barack's watch? You can't answer that, but I promise you it wouldn't have. And it didn't." I think he realized it! That's why I said... You can't answer that! I think he realized it like shut up! You're right. You can't answer that. He was trying to cover the flub. Hey, I'm trying to figure out did uh... I watched the first half USA versus The Netherlands Is this game over? Did who won because I've been voting for the USA Well, I'm asking in the troll room Was hoping they would give me an answer that's just easy to look up well Yes, okay. It's over game over to 2-0 for the US. There was an expert that predicted the score of two nil really because apparently the us is very good defensively and they wear the other team out and they score early And then they can keep they can shut a team out very easily what they did not score earlier all talent They did not score early Not in the first half

52:28 I thought both teams were very, very strong. And how strong is scoring? No points! But I have incredible adversity now against Rapinoe the USA captain just because... She's that one that hates America? Yeah she hates Trump that's for sure And she thinks the White House is no good. That's too bad, I like Alex Morgan a lot from the USA team and you know but I feel bad for the Dutch well they can do it next time this is their first time in the finals they'll come back. I think the game itself won A lot of people were excited about women's soccer women's football and I'm happy about that and I'm glad my home country won Good try Holland

53:16 You mean you're glad that they lost? My home country is America. Oh, I... yeah you always confuse the audience No the audience has some misinformation. I'm American have always been American i've never had a Dutch passport and never had dual nationality uh... I had nothing to do with it didn't ask him over there enjoyed it but go Murica! Speak fluent unaccented dutch That's correct Een animator bij de stad in Brut. Yeah, you didn't know that did ya? Well congratulations to the Dutch team for putting up a... A good fight! Kind of yeah. I'm sure they put up a good fight. Doing the best they can and appearing. They showed off. Participating thanks for coming. Oh boy alright well have to watch the highlights

54:18 Okay, let's see do we have any um oh yes I did want to just mention that the big fight started on July 4th the mastodon gab Fediverse fight. Oh yes this is one of your yeah, this is your beat Yeah so we have the fediverse which is a Federation of social social media servers. We have our own, it's called noagendasocial.com anyone can join you'll have to get an invitation from the troll room so go to noagendastream.com to get that and any server with this open source software can... It's like your own little Twitter only doesn't have the algos in there to mess with your head it's all last in first up pretty or yeah most recent is at the top reverse chronological order

55:07 And then you can follow and send messages back and forth, tweets although they're called toots in the Mastodon world. across servers and it's been very fun because we have our own little quadroon sitting around. We got a couple thousand people who are members, and then people from other servers can follow us now almost immediately upon us joining the Federation we were blocked by some of the largest instances because they are complete social justice warrior retards I will just use the word

55:45 and completely out of control, and are now conflating the Mastodon project with some kind of philosophy and social justice movement which as far as I'm concerned software has no business being a part of. It's just that it's just software And so Gab probably couldn't handle their scale anymore They decided that they were going to change their entire system. They were going to fork the Mastodon code which is completely legal to do in

56:22 in the open software, open source world. Yes and you can do with it as you want You can change it, you can add stuff, you can remove stuff and if you do add stuff you have to publish that and then it becomes open source It's kind of like a virus so if it touches the Open Source then has become Open Source as well Now, Gabb which was started as an alternative to Twitter mainly for people being kicked off Twitter and who are of a conservative mindset in general. Although certainly having an account there you have an account there it doesn't seem to be as nutty as you'd expect it to be like it's just all swastikas on Heil Hitler. In fact I haven't really seen any of that

57:07 So they decided to federate. They did that on July 4th, now the scale of this project for them must have been quite immense I know the troubles we run into with our little server bandwidth disks issues images just you know just filling up disk drives terabytes at a time it's it's a big it's a big project so they started Without a couple of features With a couple of timelines. Have you ever paid for gab? Do you have to pay what your free or account was just free Okay, cuz because I've supported them by getting a pro account. I don't know what you get with that But so now give these guys 50 bucks and they need help

57:50 And that's how they apparently, you know there is a value for value model for all intents and purposes. Now July 4th they start to federate it doesn't work really well the back end is slow I tried to send a message to myself on Gab server so I did from noagendasocial.com took about a day for it show up some things went faster some things went slower yeah now however The Mastodon, and this is the philosophy and the so-called community which we've been blocked from not the software itself. Is up in arms! And they are so mad about the Nazis coming into the Federation

58:33 that they have pre-blocked everybody and everything. We'll never let you communicate with those Nazis over there! But they're completely disingenuous, and I figured out what they're really mad about. I'm gonna read a little bit from the statement on Gab's... I wonder where you were going with this? The statement on Gab's fork of mastodon Mastodon is completely op... no, so now they're mastodon. I don't know if they're speaking as the software? If this is a software that all of sudden can talk or it's a bunch of guys who developed it but they say mastodon. Mastodon is completely opposed to Gab's project and philosophy which seeks to mu... Wait wait wait wait! Where are you reading this from? It sounds like you were reading from the GAB site No, I'm reading it from join-mastodon dot org

59:23 Oh, you're talking about... okay this is the Social Justice Warriors. Yes! Okay couldn't you tell from my SJW voice? Yeah that would have been better but that's what I'm doing i'll amp it up a bit Mastodon is completely opposed to Gab's project and philosophy which seeks to monetize and platform racist content while hiding behind the banner of free speech And right off the bat, I knew what the problem was. These little fucks are pissed off that someone is actually willing to pay Gab money to use their server! And I've been getting hate-toots all over the place and it generally is the same thing It's... They're charging people money for a broken service they're taking away features and charging people to put the features back in!! And all I can say is so?

1:00:19 Who cares what they if they can get money to pay if they can get people to pay money for their version of a server which they could join noagendasocial.com and They could have more features, and we wouldn't charge them anything But if that's what they want to do who cares? No but they're veiling this And I think this is an overall issue with the open source movement The minute someone takes open source software and monetizes it, they get their panties in a bunch. Usually people create open source software to fight against an established system such as an operating system Linux So what's the girl Kim who started the enterprise company based on Linux?

1:01:08 Um, maybe it was just a red hat. Was it Red Hat? Yeah, Red Hat that's what I'm saying. Red Hat so she got so much hate they're taking our work and that's the deal! I don't know there was a woman who started Red Hat... yeah it was Kim. Kim Polisi I think. No. Yes! Yes, yes. All right keep talking or maybe she became the CEO later So so right off the bat I'll read you this first sentence again Mastodon is without the voice mastodon is completely opposed to gab's project and philosophy which seeks to monetize and platform racist content while hiding behind the banner of free speech

1:01:48 Mastodon remains committed to standing up against hate speech. For example, our new server Covenant means we only list servers on joinmastodon.org that are committed to active moderation against racism sexism and transphobia The mastodon community does not approve of their attempt to hijack our infrastructure and has already taken steps to isolate Gab and keep hate speech off the Fediverse. Do they know what open source is? Well, they are so again...

1:02:26 And I, let's go down to the final paragraph. In addition to the isolation Gab can expect from the Fediverse it is clear that their design choices offer users no incentive to choose their platform by paywalling basic features that are freely available on Mastodon. Gab puts itself at a disadvantage compared to any Mastodon instance Mastodon remains non-commercially structured and all features are available to users freely from the start. They are so butthurt over the fact that these guys are getting donations, I think they're literally willing to take people from Gab just to get them on their full featured no charge servers! It's it's so transparent that is the essence of what these people are angry about

1:03:21 that they're making money doing it. I know this is a stretch... It's all, i'm reading it! Well I think its rationalization at this point for them to bitch about that because they are going to bitch about everything but even if the okay, Lausha, the rhetorical question If there was zero money being made by GAB do you think these people would put up with it? No So I take your point and I think your correct Its rationalization of their unhinged behavior Yeah. There you go, thank you I'll take that the thank you that's real-time analysis all right Bob Young and Mark Ewing started Red Hat Kim Palacios never had anything to do with it where was Kim Palacio she is a son and then she became she's a West Coast girl this was in East Coast operation I thought Kim Palacio ran a big open source software company yes spike source okay anyway so for some reason people who wanted a free

1:04:24 A system that was not beholden to Silicon Valley have decided that they're going to be the heroes of the internet and they're going to block and moderate against racism, sexism and transphobia. And I'm thinking to myself, self these people are the dumbest idiots in the world. People want the danger... Those smart idiots that are out there. People want danger they love it they want to have the danger of getting something nuts. I mean you look at our federated timeline It's a mess, but it's the world. You should see what comes through from China and Japan and the manga culture...it is a mess! But you can block it, you can mute it, you can get rid of it, you don't have to look at it all but people love that danger and they will gravitate towards this They're going to run away from your little closed off systems. It's so counterproductive to what otherwise is a great idea

1:05:26 And just to finalize my rant here, the idea of federation does not mean that everyone should have the right to be copied and propagated across all these instances or servers so everybody sees your message. Quite the opposite! The beauty is you can block it off So if you're not interested in what happens on noagendasocial.com or people who post there, then either mute it block it block the whole server That's fine live in your own little world There's no this whoever said it had to be all open that the whole point is like now You can connect who you want to and if someone doesn't like the policy Or they would have they call this the covenant of their instance like the simple government If you don't like the

1:06:16 Covenant then for five bucks a month you can start your own and be a part of the Fediverse however you want to be a part of it. It's just, it is an unbelievable... people need to study this as a I mean this is something that yeah what was the word I'm looking for who studies human history human behavior? Historian? No no psychology Okay. You're not helping. Adam Curry, King of the Federation! Vote Adam Curry!

1:06:54 I don't need to be king of anything. But this is what's going on here is much bigger, will be much bigger than Twitter and Facebook and all this other bull crap combined This is where it's going And the Federation, the genie's out of the bottle and I think it's much healthier so now you can have all the social justice warriors in their little corner blocking off everything else and then no one has to deal with them They can root around on their own little river It's fine. That would actually be preferable Yes, exactly! It is exactly the way it should be. Normal people over here... I'm sorry? SJWs over there. Normies. No no in fact i got called a fucking normie yesterday You got called a normie?! A fucking normie not just a normie. Why would somebody use the pejorative fucking to describe a normie

1:07:50 Well, it was on his mind. Is it different than just a regular normie? I guess... well then he went on to say you know don't you want black penis and stuff like that That's mastodon! Please block our server. I do not want any part of that If that is all you got to say go away who gives a crap Well I'm glad you're adamant about this. You may be on to something! You should check, i know you have an account... I go on it all the time and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you The Man Who Put The Sea In

1:08:27 I don't know. I'm out of ideas. John C. Dvorak, ladies and gentlemen! You have a list. Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry In the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the cows and dames and knights out there Did you say cows? Did I? I think you said cows and dames out there. Cows and dames and knights. Yes, very good. Ah! Cows and knights and dames and dames and knights yes in the morning to the trolls in the troll room let me see what we got here it's been a slow week oh we saw over 1,000 that's nice it's good to see people there that is noagendastream.com 24-7 We have shows running live shows You can comment on them you can go get your noagendasocial.com invite by going to No Agenda

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1:10:05 It was clearly an original piece. It was a 4th of July fife and drum trio with one of them, I guess that's you with the buck teeth saying, I got ants? Was there anything else we needed to discuss? No, it was just a piece that got the... I was looking for what... something had to have the flag and some mention of The Fourth besides just fireworks. So the flag was like a prerequisite to me and so i'm looking around and that was one of them and there was a cartoony thing which was light-hearted and Riley can do that sort of thing constantly

1:10:47 It's just kind of that guy. Yeah, and so it was this a no-brainer actually to pick that piece Well, I'm we may have issues Today we didn't even have a pre show art people on vacation People nobody's listening hello Just we're just talking into avoid Avoid talking there seems to be a lot of people on the stream those people probably didn't by the way What a dud The newsletter. A total dud! Oh yeah, it was a total dud. I'm never gonna provide my personal pictures ever again And there's some good shots in there too and i went through the trouble of producing a big giant photo with photoshop to minimize the number of photo counts so wouldn't get stuck in spam? Yeah, only one photo instead of five or four whatever it was

1:11:43 And it kind of worked, it seems. But nobody was there to pick it up because they were all floating around living it up in this good economy so what are you going to do? I guess so... Well if your gonna be aware- But I thought it was funny! Oh yeah, I didn't realize and I sent you the picture of me dancing with my sisters which is very funny and then you commented on it like I'm not sure what Adam's sister Tiffany is doing but its not good Now Willow of course listens to the show and subscribes to the newsletter, and she immediately sent it to Tiffany. Of course! Okie dokie. There was no one even bothered photoshopping my air guitar

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1:17:42 CARICOM is like Northcom. It's CARICOM, the Caribbean Command it is an acronym a military acronym Oh I appreciate the dedication and hard work now I'm thinking Fletcher CARICOM! Like that? Forget Fletcher I have a new calling in life So Fletcher says you know he wants to do help on the radio show Yes Yeah, the radio plays. Let me guess. So he sent me a tape He does about 14 to 15 absolutely stunning different voices offbeat voices and why does this not surprise me? And they're all good. He's also has a deep voice You know, I'm not the boomer that I like but it's deep It's definitely a narrator's voice but he does the hippie and he does a dip shit is a great dipshit

1:18:39 Kind of a, you know just in between dipshit guy can't quite do it. Neither one of us did do it and a whole bunch of deep-throated guys and wacky sounds And he sustains them this to me is the hardest part Yeah keeping it going. A friend of mine who does a lot of this sort of thing He sent me a tape of stuff and every so often when you listen blah blah blah blah blah and then you hear his voice Just sustaining a completely different voice. Good, that's hard to do. I mean i can do Freddy the Firewall but that's about it and you probably couldn't sustain it through like a...

1:19:25 You know how many people have bitched about Ted Voice? It rubs people the wrong way. A lot of people want a reprise, want to radio play of Freddy the Firewall I've received notices about this yes plug in your camera kids! Anyway so Fletcher...I had no idea that he had a...the repertoire is absolutely phenomenal Good But he could do the Aloha in the scream. Oh yes, yes! Anyway I have a problem with something our donor writes continues to say... Chris Black you mean? Yes that's who it is

1:20:07 I have a problem with something being repeated on your show. Jamaican is not a race, have we ever said that? I don't think so. My entire family background is Jamaican but I was born in the US and the only one of my family who voted for Trump and I can articulate my reasons for doing so. I recently went on an eight hour road trip with my uncle who hates the president it wasn't uninteresting, it was an interesting trip but I think it means Jim's got confused when they run into blacks who support the racist, quote unquote. But ultimately their justification is I hate myself also. So about Mrs Harris or dad Donald Harris is Jamaican of European and African descent does the complex issue of his ancestors own slaves?

1:20:55 The Caribbean is full of blacks, quote unquote who are descendants of slaves brought over from Africa. So technically blacks from Jamaica can also be descendants of slaves. Sure! Not descendents of American slavery though No! Jamaica has black white Indian and Chinese Jamaicans which are all various races even growing up in South Florida the African-American blacks never referred to me as being black Exactly Even though I look just like them What a mess classic divide-and-conquer Before you do the PS I have a segment coming right up after this break which will delve even deeper into that because he doesn't really say anything He has a beef, but he doesn't he just says hey we We could be we can also be slaves. Yeah sure This but it comes back to Kamala Harris when you say in America on black That used to mean up until

1:21:51 two, three years ago pretty much you were an American descendant of slavery. You could be half black, you'd have a white mom, you have a Chinese mom anything you want But if you were a black, am I misstating this John? You've been around longer than me. This is something that i don't really want to get into personally and so I can say your mistaking it because I would personally think that you're not mistaken stating it but I think this is a can of worms Oh good well I'll have other people do that in some clips I have coming up Good anyway onward PS he says I'm currently on my way the US Mexico soccer match

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1:24:01 Yeah, well he's got the pipes. So that was interesting you said you wouldn't want to... You don't want to discuss it or do you feel uncomfortable discussing black conslavery? I'm not uncomfortable discussing anything. Mm-hmm. Uh, I just think it's something of a can of worms that is not really what the show is about and this racial I'm sorry the 2020 elections and an important demographic is not what the show's about No, that's not what I meant. And I think you know it. I don't think that trying to unravel

1:24:38 The racial mess and it's monikers and who calls what why didn't reparations in all these other things and yes, it is part of the show. And so far as candidates are gonna be bringing this stuff up and we have to talk about it but I think a lot of it is You know, somewhat something I'm not interested in talking about. And you're doing a fine job by yourself. Okay good then let me do a little segment because Kamala Harris is arguably one of the two front runners at the moment and it seems in many ways from a racial standpoint that we are at a 2007 type situation where Barack Obama is being called an African-American, and he clearly was not African American. He's black, brown whatever you want to call him but not African American and let's just go back

1:25:32 to the conversation that Don Lemon had with April Ryan just to refresh your memory so two old white guys aren't saying it but Don Lemon is saying it about Kamala Harris. There's a lot to unpack here number one what does black enough mean can someone give me a definition of what black enough is I don't want go down the road of the stereotype when people say we're black. Number one, she is a black woman she's a mixed race woman when you see her you see her blackness but she is also South Asian her mom is South Asian and her dad is Jamaican April April let me listen more power to her and I think that should be enough

1:26:09 Listen, it is enough that she's a black woman. We are not a model No no no I think you're not you're not hearing what people are saying the people who are saying is she blacking up? That's bold That's BS but to want a distinction to say if she African American Or is she black or she whatever then what there is nothing wrong with that There is a difference between being african-american and being black People, people Latino people are people of color but they're not black. They're brown people. She is a woman of color but she is a black woman Okay that's right I agree with that I agree with that But if she African-American there's a difference There's nothing wrong with that No one is trying to take anything away from her Let's go down into her lineage If you want to fall into her lineage All she had to do was say I am black no I'm not African American That's it

1:27:05 I'm not falling. Let me let me let Let me finish. Hold on, I'm not falling into a trap by that when she goes down her lineage many Africans landed in Jamaica and all these other Caribbean islands so she could indeed be African American mixed with others but she is a black woman. She was born here. Okay well let's go to Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz was born in Canada his father was Cuban. You know what we cannot it was hypocrisy I'm not changing the subject. Yes, you are. She's a black woman. I don't know what you want... Okay, I think we get the idea here You hear two black people arguing about what is black which is the conversation you and I- you're right We're not qualified to have that but I think as a lineage and as race and nationalities it's very clear What's what?

1:27:56 The problem is that there's a, I think, large contingent of what who call themselves ADOS, American Descendants of Slavery who are tired of seeing Democratic candidates saying, I'm black. I want to do something for the black people meaning people who descended from Jim Crow type laws and situations you know in my lifetime this...I was barely born but it was just about ended one year after I was born and you know here we are things are much better, but if you're going to ask people to vote for you and your promising things for their community. You got to be kind of clear what you're talking about and that's where the anger stems from as

1:28:41 blacks, African-Americans feel they got ripped off by Obama and did not do any better even though he was supposed to be the first black American president. Most will still say African American president although technically not true So when Kamala Harris came on the scene, the ADOS movement came into action and said that's fine but let's not pretend that she's African-American. And that immediately became marginalized down to these people are Russian bots. Yes! Now here... Well you have to know one thing for certain

1:29:18 You bring it up by Kamala Harris to people that don't listen to the show some of these your name is coming What why would they support her? Why were the blacks support her she's a cop Well, there's that angle She's a mean-spirited district attorney. That didn't did nothing for any black people that ever went you know that we're she was confronted with and but she's a cop and so that's enough. She's not to be supported, and it's other stuff I think just derived from that." Well it's getting pretty heated Roland Martin on...I think this is maybe CNN or MSNBC he explains people who have this opinion that Kamala Harris is doing the same thing Barack Obama did

1:30:07 pandering to Ados and saying, no way I'm gonna take care of you but really was not sincere. He is dividing this. Don Jr spokesman told the New York Times quote that Dawn Sweet was simply asking him if it was true that Kamala Harris was half Indian because it's not something he'd ever heard before and then once he saw folks were misconstruing the intent he quickly deleted it what do you make of this? Donald Trump jr. is Fredo and he clearly can't read a bio. All he has to do is go read the bio of Senator Kamala Harris, then you'll understand her background and so he's probably the dumbest of all the Trump children but here's the real issue here The attacks on Senator Kamala Harris' blackness really started at the moment she announced And where it's really coming from? This is Black self-hate

1:30:56 fifth And that's what the real issue here. There are black people out there who say Obama didn't do enough for African Americans, and what they're not doing is demanding really policy questions. They're questioning her blackness. You even have some fools out there who are black, especially a lot of black men, who are criticizing her because her husband is white. So I understand that folks are talking about Donald Trump Jr retweeting this but really you've got some asinine black folks out there

1:31:41 are the ones who are questioning her blackness and they are shameful and they're despicable, and then they should be called out at every turn. That's pretty loaded what the guy is doing there. He's a Democrat. This is what it this is what it's all about, that there is a contingent they call themselves ADOS and they're saying we're not gonna vote for any Democratic candidate anymore even though they traditionally do in 85-95 percent range yeah

1:32:16 until we see a true black agenda for black Americans, African-Americans. So this is now...this honor has still been bestowed upon Kamala Harris and she showed up over the weekend at the Essence power stage for Essence Magazine I presume, a real black American African-American magazine traditionally. She was introduced by none other than the Rev, Rev Al Sharpton and she comes out to Tupac! Let us welcome Senator Kamala Harris Now count the time she says good morning

1:32:57 Good morning, good morning. Oh my heart is full. Good morning, good morning my beautiful sister. Good morning! Oh jeez... Sounds like she's totally stoned. I gotta tell you though she has something so endearing about her the way-I can't explain it. Her smile?

1:33:48 It's a smile, it's a storytelling. But then she runs and goes straight into this story about her background because she realizes there is a lot of controversy. We've got to talk about my background What we know, what we've researched before any of this really came up on the show Like okay her mom's from India. Her dad's from Jamaica She was born here as she grew up in Canada most of her life and from the age of 12 Yeah And but she did get bussed around and I think she's younger than I am isn't she? What is she isn't she's 52 She was born in

1:34:29 up up up up up up up up up up up up up at eight nineteen sixty four okay so she's my age. So you were born in 64? Yes So I'm not so sure if what she says here is really truthful. So about my background, I am a daughter of the Civil Rights Movement. What? I grew up in a family and in a community of adults If someone says that they are the daughter of the Civil Rights Movement and you do not have a family history of Jim Crow I think that people will find that insulting, but maybe... Wait she said something even weirder. Play it again. So about my background, i am a daughter of the civil rights movement. I grew up in a family and in a community of adults who spent full time marching and shouting

1:35:25 About this thing called justice. So she kind of makes it sound like doesn't sound right what would know? No, so it's and she's doing this mind you at the essence power stage 25 My sister Maya and I we were raised by a mother who was all of five feet tall But if you ever met her you would have thought she was seven feet tall She taught us Don't let anyone tell you who you are. You tell them who you are well, she's following mom's advice That's for sure She's a daughter of the civil rights movement Can you really compare that to a daughter of someone? Who was actually in America during Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement I think that's just horseshit on her case So now she goes into something that I heard the other day at The Whole Foods checkout

1:36:18 Someone asked me, wait a minute was her mom. Her mom is Indian Yes And her mom's the one that ended up with her when she was 12 and I did how many Indians were that? Involved in the civil rights movement Oh she said that they were screaming and yelling and protesting it's a lie John this is why people are angry This is why people on CNN have to tell other people of the same color shut up I'm just reporting. So now she does something which is a phrase that I keep hearing over and over again, people are so deranged about Trump they can't even say Trump! They can't even say... Listen this is what it is. And look we all know there is a lot that is wrong with the current occupant of the White House. I hear this everywhere

1:37:08 at the Whole Foods checkout. Well, the current occupant in the White House... you mean the guy called President? They can't say it! Have you not noticed this? Your lib joes? No I haven't noticed it but now that you mention it I think it does crop up a lot and the term is the current occupant of the White House It's demeaning, it's demeaning. It's like a squatter. Like some dude just walked in and... Yeah so it was an insult to the people who voted for Trump As an aside didn't Melania look dynamite on July 4th? I told you this already in the show! I have not seen one frame of anything having to do with that event So I don't know maybe

1:37:58 We all know there is a lot that is wrong with the current occupant of the White House. He says he wants to make America great again, well what exactly does again mean? Back before the Civil Rights Act? Back before the Voting Rights Act? Back before Roe v Wade? Ooh she's doing that voice! Back before the Fair Housing Act? Well Essence we're not going back...we're not going back So... It's not her natural voice to start talking like that kind of a Southern, displaced black. No but it was also... She's California she's a Californian if she's black she can't get any further than being at California black and they have a very distinctive way of speaking and they don't talk well I you know they'll talk with it don't have an accent that she's portraying there the way Hillary does I can't even do it

1:38:57 Yeah, she's a lot of that Hillary stuff in her for sure big student of Hillary but just so you know America was never great because it was all racist bunch of a-holes racists misogynist and just horrible horrible people Thank You Kamala. And now she gets into the census kind of Because there's a second census that is being run, that you and I for obvious reasons were not aware of. And i'd ask that we take a look at and I urge everyone to read the black census project that has been headed by Alicia Garza and look at that as our guide so

1:39:39 It's the largest survey of black people in America since reconstruction and it demands action recognizing the many facets of black life that must be addressed. And in my opinion, it is a guide to right what is wrong in America. So you know how sometimes people will say, and they say it certainly to me often because I was of course the first black woman to be elected DA of San Francisco. The first black person to be elected Attorney General of California only the second black woman to be elected to the United States Senate. I'm sorry that's the third because Elizabeth Warren was also a senator In the history of our country Okay so when you hear this

1:40:23 What do you believe this black census is and what do you think who do you think it's about? I have no idea. I never heard of it, the way she just said that It sounds like it's some way of counting up the blacks and getting their grievances and fixing the problem Yes! Exactly Unfortunately she told us who was running it Alicia Garza The name may not ring many bells with you It does sound familiar Black Lives Matter Okay, she started Black Lives Matter with She's a Soros sister. Yes, sorrow sister exactly she got the money from sorrow She started black lives matters and I have two quick clips of her about this black census any questions about Sexuality have been removed from the census if she's talking I'm sorry so she's giving a rationale here about the black census because

1:41:19 We're missing all these things in the Donald Trump 2020 census. So wait a minute, so what you're telling me is that this white or the census which counts everybody which according to Trump is going to dig into everything would possibly could know doesn't have enough questions digging into everything. And yes and she is running the Black Census Project, black census project But is it only about the black people that Kamala Harris was talking about or that the impression she gave you and I? Like, okay. It's about black people in America their grievances getting screwed and how she's going to fix all this which kind of sounds like black like a Black agenda or maybe not reparations money wise but doing something for her community even though it's not really her community

1:42:20 And so here's Alicia Garza, her sister as she just said and she's first going to bitch about the traditional census giving a rationale for her census but there are some interesting gotchas in here. Many questions about sexuality have been removed from the census and there are already ways in which some of the questions on the 2020 census are actually designed to discourage the communities who need the census the most from participating. We've heard rumors and rumors have been confirmed, actually about questions about immigration status and concerns about whether or not this administration will take those responses and turn them over to Homeland Security. And so what you can be sure of with our Census project

1:43:05 is that one, we're not collecting any personal information. And so and we're doing that because we think it's important to protect people's privacy but it's also extremely important that people understand what the 2020 census does is ask you about how many people are in your house, right? It asks where do you live for purposes of apportioning resources Our census is asking you about your experiences. It's asking you to sound off on what you want to see for your future, and the way that you can hold us accountable to that is by being engaged with our project." Okay so it sounds kind of good although I don't know about the sexuality part but all right! Sounds like you want to do something for black Americans with a census and

1:43:51 I don't know. Hopefully that information, that data will be helpful but is it really only for American descendants of slavery or just blacks? So we've taken a lot of steps to make sure that people don't get left behind and We're ready to take additional steps in any places that we've missed so For example, we've talked about really wanting to make sure that black people who are immigrants get to participate in this survey Okay here we go And that's why we've translated the survey into eight languages that are commonly spoken by a number of black communities that live here in the United States, so that nobody is left behind. We hear that folks who are incarcerated often get left out of these kinds of projects which is why we're partnering with organizations that work with people who are incarcerated in jails and prisons to make sure that we get the census inside the walls

1:44:48 So that we can really hear from people who are being directly impacted by the criminal system What it is that you dream of for your future? so as it turns out the black census is for immigrants for LGBTQ it is for It is not for just black Americans in the traditional sense of the word or the way it is implied by Kamala Harris. I don't expect a lot of white people to catch this, but I think a lot of black people are also getting snookered by this here's the kicker this this black census is so it she does this from her organization the Black Futures Lab and here's a little trick for people who want to find out who's behind something always click on the donate button you always want to click on the donate button to find out where your money is going. Black Futures Lab is fiscally sponsored by the Chinese Progressive Association

1:45:51 And the Chinese... which is a 501c3 tax-exempt organization? I looked them up on GuideStar, they got about three million bucks. There's no information on what they're really about so this is some front and why why this is being supplied by the Black Census is being sponsored by the Chinese Progressive Association is a mystery Well, that's not a... I don't know that operation is the Soros front. I think it might be! Well, Soros can now... I'll tell you why I don't think so. Soros has so many good fronts that why would he confuse matters by putting Chinese anything in front of this operation?

1:46:40 It doesn't make sense. Well, we can look at it through one of his other operations that sound a little more liberal well founded in 1972 the Chinese Progressive Association educates organizes and empowers the low-income and working class immigrant Chinese community ie blacks in San Francisco to build collect yes John Yes That's just what that's what's going on here Chinese immigrants are now black And don't you forget it? And I'm a little... of all the things that worries me, it's the Chinese coming in. Now nothing against Chinese people, well I do! Chinese people seem to be ruder than most but they're just different cultures so i get it But do we really want the chinese taking over everything? Well I find this to just be peculiar Yeah

1:47:31 It's well did of course is what in the interview that you have this woman asked about that and did she find it? What did I'll tell you what she said. She said wow Wow, wow, she said wow This is just wow if I click on the donate of the Chinese Progressive Association see if we get any information here No, it's all the same but it's just why is why are they sponsoring this? Very, very odd. Anyway so I guess we just take it at face value Kamala Harris is black she's all for blacks and Chinese are black that's the new black Chinese is the new black. I'm sure the Chinese will appreciate that yeah I got nothing against Chinese except when on vacation they seem to be rude Yeah you've made that point and if you go to China they're rude there too Well... They can be rude But not rude to YOU

1:48:30 They're actually less rude to you than they are to fellow Chinese. Well, I've not been to China so i can't speak on that well it's just bumped into a lot but it's just a different culture they they come from a real communist background and they think every space is for everybody and uh i'm going to stand in that space where you're standing must be shared exactly well this is uh distressing but you can keep up on it if you want to i mean it seems to me to be Kamala Harris is not going to be the nominee. I'll just tell you that right now Okay What does your crystal ball say cosmic weenie? Yeah, probably Joe Biden Do you really think so? You're still believing Joe finally gets a clue and jumps in like I've been saying mmm It's it's a total mess And I still say Kamala would be the vice president Joe Bidens vice presidential pick

1:49:29 The thing that was mentioned in the NBC clip we had earlier where Biden, they're talking about everything but the topic. Biden says I was kind of surprised how this criticism came from Kamala because she's like a friend of mine, she knows Bo and then he wanders off and goes... shakes his head and goes... He just says something stupid. And it's.. he was really I think outraged by personal attack at that level on this national stage by a supposed friend

1:50:10 Because it's not the way you operate. You don't do that, if you have this complaint why don't you bring it up sometime personally? I mean this was considered a faux pas and she is going to suffer for it I can assure you and probably suffer for in the next debate but she has zero chance of becoming a nominee. Oh man! For a year first and I'm no bad at this Well I have good track record You have a good track record of picking popes and the president. Well, it wasn't Do you don't make me play the clip again? The same is picking the candidates Okay I think camel this so far right now for me Kamala Harris is the front-runner Joe Biden He's a washed up loser at this point and he's coming on hinge and people are seeing it. I don't see that support for him That's why Somebody needs to come to the rescue

1:51:09 Somebody needs to come to the rescue. Someone pointed out a movie, to me that is on Netflix that actually came out 10 months before the Mueller report And as I was watching the trailer for this, it's called Active Measures. I don't think we'd heard about this or that we talked about it It went straight to Netflix is far as I know I'm gonna go look at it next when you well I play the trailer When you listen to this trailer and you and you've got to clear your mind You've got to put yourself into Rob Reiner shoes I know they're kind of stinky but just just lay back cuz I get I'm pretty good at doing this Layback and like okay Let me just for a moment think that

1:52:00 Trump is not the president. He's the current occupant of the White House and And all of these guys were all in cahoots It was all this collusion The Mueller report proved it I saw my favorite Hollywood actors telling me to read the report I read the report and it confirmed everything I was afraid of and then you see this trailer President Trump Just now President Putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. Every US intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did My first question for you, sir is who do you believe? Putin has worked to undermine democracies across the globe. He made his way up through the KGB, he learned how to maneuver politically The Russian mafia is an adjunct of the Russian government and they help maintain Mr. Putin's power To the point where Putin may well be the wealthiest man on the face of planet

1:52:56 How does Russia launder money into America? Everything I know that's interesting, I can't tell you. The Russians have a particular type of mark. They are somebody who has business resources shady morals and political connections or aspirations. I've just described Donald Trump Putin realizes that if we're divided as a nation, we cannot protect ourselves from threats within and without. And what you have is probably the biggest intelligence breach in the history of the world. The crown jewel for any intelligence agency is to recruit an asset inside your adversary's intelligence agency They seem to have premonitions of things that were going to happen, that in fact did happen The question is who helped guide the decisions that the Russians were making

1:53:50 Trump Tower was a money laundering paradise. Anybody who was anybody in Russian organized crime bought a condo unit at Trump Tower We have the serious intelligence operation in the home of the man who becomes president United States I think this is the tip of the iceberg What's at stake his truth and because of Liberty at the most profound level possible? Active measures now on Netflix I want to play the clip of this is Noam Chomsky discussing and he backs us up with a lot of logic because he's a logician if nothing else. And here is, you know, a darling of the left when he says it's important to the progressives and they don't like hearing this from him. As far as Trump collusion with the Russians that was never going to amount to anything more than minor corruption

1:54:51 Maybe building a Trump Hotel in Red Square or something like that. But nothing of any significance The Democrats invested everything in this issue Well, turned out there was nothing much there They gave Trump a huge gift In fact they may have handed him the next election That's just a matter of being so unwilling to deal with fundamental issues that they're looking for something on the side that'll somehow give political success. And where did he say this? He said it in New York at a big confab. Did they boo him?

1:55:38 No, they were. He prefaced this by discussing the idea of the Russian interfering in our elections he says the real and this is from his perspective again he says the real problem is how can the Russians even come close to competing with special interests and the huge amount of campaign funding that goes on in the billions and billions of dollars, the Russians don't have those sorts of resources. They can't do much more than nothing which is what he claims. He says the real problem is with these other things would campaign finance reform would solve. Of course then the logic of all this says to me that campaign finance reform would allow the Russian's to actually be competitive but

1:56:24 That of course is another moment of logic that alludes everybody. What do you mean? Campaign finance reform would allow the Russians to be competitive because... Because right now, the Russians in terms of screwing with our elections as opposed to Hungary or any place else is that our elections are so fraught with tons of money coming from special interests and PACs and everybody in between that there's no way they can do anything because we already have the thing sewn up, and research shows that the more money you get, the better chance you have a winning. And all the rest of it, the Russians aren't throwing money at it what $100,000 to Facebook? That's going to do what nothing

1:57:04 And so the point is, is that campaign finance reform which would draw this money out of the system would allow the Russians to actually be competitive and allow the Russians to actually screw up the elections. Right? Ironically! But of course we already know that campaign finance reform will never go anywhere because all that money is picked up by the media. They're the ones who are the beneficiaries and the media would never allow it to happen because its really part of their bottom line. Ten billion dollars in 2020 election is projected to be spent on advertising? Most of that online! Well, thats the weird part... Well when I say most, I say 60%.

1:57:48 So that's the majority. The majority of it, yeah! It's a lot. You can believe that everyone is all just licking their chops waiting for the dollars to come flowing in Alright anything else? After you sir Well I got a couple of things that are more kind of normalized... I do have a...I've got a couple of ISOs I want to go over Let's go over this one This one I picked up from a clip I never made And this is a clip of an Iranians, from the CBC. I just like this guy saying this... Nothing different. He sounded like Kissinger! Nothing different. I also have one from an Ebola report which I wouldn't mind playing. Oh that's always good The CBC is covering Ebola we're not So it's scary to think about what happens if we've run out of it

1:58:47 If we what? So it's scary to think about what happens if we run out of it. Run out of what, don't tell me they've got some kind of vaccine that is working all the sudden? Play Ebola 1 CBC Well we can't just do that, we have gotta do it properly. Ebola is back in town! Ebola's back in town. The second largest Ebola outbreak in history is spreading, and it's a double tragedy since it happened in an active war zone that makes containment and treatment a huge challenge but tonight CBC News has learned that help is coming soon A much needed vaccine co-created in Canada is getting a boost in production Katie Nicholson explains

1:59:34 In this vial, a precious commodity. The Ebola vaccine partially developed in Canada and for those in the outbreak zone every last drop counts This region of Congo has buried more than 1,600 people since last year. Containing the outbreak has used up much of the world's 300,000-dose stockpile of the vaccine. After 10 months in this outbreak, 300,000 doses is not enough anymore. Gary Kobinger helped develop this vaccine and has been watching from afar It's 97.5% effective against the deadly virus, but he fears there just isn't enough to quell the outbreak. You will need to reach at least a million if not two millions because if you start offering this vaccine to the population

2:00:24 You need to make sure that you have enough to cover 100% of people if 100% of the people ask for it. But right now, one hundred percent of the people aren't getting the shot That's because it is being delivered primarily through a method known as ring vaccination ring vaccination works like this everyone in direct contact with the infected patient is immunized family friends caregivers or others who have been in close proximity to the person then everyone who has had direct contact with those people is immunized and so with every new case you have another ring, you have more people to vaccinate

2:00:59 And so it's clear that we need to have more vaccine. And those 300,000 doses are being used very quickly." Trish Newport is with Doctors Without Borders she seen the impact the vaccine has had firsthand. It's such a great huge tool and I can't imagine the outbreak if we didn't have it Well, this sounds like a repeat of 2014. I'm hearing a lot of the same things ring vaccinations But but I want you to read listen to what she said There's just something funny about what she said at the end did vaccine is a tool and we wouldn't have Ebola without it

2:01:37 And so it's clear that we need to have more vaccine. And those 300,000 doses are being used very quickly." Trish Newport is with Doctors Without Borders. She has seen the impact the vaccine has had first-hand. It's such a great huge tool and I can't imagine the outbreak if we didn't have it. I'm sorry, it just sounds like that was very funny. It sounds as though the vaccine is creating the outbreak Well Okay That's one in turn who oh you know here's a clip from 2014 unless you want to play your second clip first well Yeah Let's play this second thing we get this out of the way now This woman who has got the most annoying voice up talker looks like a dingbat but Did I ever she want to get rid of this because?

2:02:30 This outbreak is because of the, I think it's because maybe Canada has something to do with this vaccine or we don't. Yes! Yes! I'm not sure but this whole thing it's nothing like 2014 insofar as the panic created in the United States you didn't even know that you said yourself about the vaccine or anything else because we're not covering, because for some political or financial or who knows what reason it's not important anymore. We don't have people coming back and being tracked by the police. Oh my God! Put them in isolation put them in isolation oh there's a breakout of Ebola in Dallas

2:03:07 I just find the whole thing to be very strange and when i'm watching this report, I was just completely befuddled by it but you can play the second half. And that's possible roughly half has been used in the last year problematic because every batch of the vaccine takes a year to make Late this afternoon, Merck the pharmaceutical company that makes the vaccine confirmed to CBC News it is nearly tripling its Ebola vaccine stockpile. 850 thousand doses within 18 months not the 1-2 million doses Kobinger would like to see but for those on the ground welcome ammunition just the same So a couple things The reason why we're not covering is in 2014

2:03:57 For some reason we were sending the military over there and that has not happened now. And so for whatever reason it is, it's not important to send military so it was not important to cover I don't think it was important to cover back then but there was nothing else going on in 2014 We needed a new cycle It was great to watch Remember the first Ebola victim flown to Dallas and then he hopped out of the back of the ambulance like, okay I'll just walk inside. Everyone's expecting hazmat suits and was very benign but we played a number of different clips and i think the one that is interesting in this case is who owns this vaccine which comes right back to the reason why it

2:04:39 being covered in Canada. We've been asking the Public Health Agency of Canada for months what it got from the two companies that had sold the commercial licensing rights to, for the experimental vaccine and the experimental drug ZMapp we wanted to know if Canada still has any voice in the development and dissemination of the treatments We got back emails saying the contract is confidential, that Canada still owns the patent and the intellectual property. So I think if you own it, you cover it? But that's now being questioned by scientists around the world who are waiting to do clinical trials on the vaccine. This Berlin-based journalist wrote the article

2:05:15 The scientists I talked to are unhappy. They feel it could have gone faster, who is in control of this process? Everyone figured this outbreak would be long over before a vaccine could be developed but with the number of Ebola cases doubling every three weeks and scientists around the world saying it's out of control, the need for a vaccine is growing Meanwhile up to 1,000 doses are in cold storage here at the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg I do wonder whether it is possible to somehow cut through all that red tape and try to help get this vaccine on the road really as fast as possible. They report that African trials of this Canadian vaccine have in fact been delayed

2:05:55 not because of logistical problems but over an intellectual property dispute. The company that owns the commercial license for the drug is said to be dragging its feet with thousands of lives at risk can the Minister of Health explain what Canada's doing? The only answer Ottawa has given so far is that all this in the hands and the World Health Organization So we missed something Somewhere there's a piece missing as to something got solved with the intellectual property, the ownership structure and then all of a sudden it needs to be rolled out because now it's being paid for. Well, a couple of things come to mind with this story that's not being played at all in the United States. Even though the way they did it before is it was always about the Ebola as very dangerous thing again, it could double every month or every week, every day that all this stuff has just not even covered at all which is stunning to me the way the media acts about these things are obviously being pushed around by public relations people tell them what to do and they haven't been told to do this story

2:06:59 How much is this vaccine? Here's one question they don't answer and I have not seen an answer. What does the vaccine cost per dose, it has got to be expensive because as they mentioned in the other report it takes one year to make a dose so there are couple of things well that adds another question why does it take so long to make a dose A B what does it cost per dose And last, who's paying for these vaccinations? Because you know that the people in the affected area aren't. They don't have any money. No it's government money from somewhere Yeah but how much? As far as I'm concerned Canada are the fools How do you say that maybe they're getting tons of cash It's Merck that's producing the product Canada just gets a licensing fee

2:07:52 But is Murk the owner? Are they the intellectual property? Murk is the people making the vaccine. Yeah, but do they... that's not the same question Do they own it to their license did obviously the licensees are that guy that one guy and somebody else was never mentioned There just seems to be a lot of money involved here Well there has to be The odd thing is they tested this all in West Africa Not in the... Like you said from 2014 to today yeah five years later There's missing information. Yes, man That's right man this new information new shit has come to light well I'm glad you caught that and I'm gonna delve into it because I do like this Ebola story And you know the only thing I can really think is they're actually bringing Ebola back

2:08:51 By injecting it into people. What else could it be? Maybe they're hoping for an outbreak, I don't know. Maybe some of our... Sorry? Again, I want to know what it costs per dose and who's paying for it It's not that hard of a question if you're a journalist. That'd be the first thing I would ask. Or, Candanavian No Agenda producers... You're up! I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do this Oh yeah that would be fab Yeah on no agenda In the morning And we have a few people to thank for show 1153 starting with

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2:15:19 We don't have to. I do, I don't know about you but i'm working for the money here yes we have to absolutely! We could run reruns and probably do as well that's the joke of it we could do as well on a day like this looking at how the donations were if we ran an interview or The Best Of or a comedy show or something...to be honest about it But it should pick up a little bit after I tell my family. Okay, but you know just as an aside It's a holiday for the United States of America The rest of the world is not on vacation No that's true but 80% of our listeners are in the US Well thats a problem too...80%? Yeah pretty much Then where is number 2

2:16:05 Canada's number two and then... And it's a toss-up between Australia and the Netherlands probably? Yeah, pretty much. The Netherlands is three. Well first let me do some karmas because there were a ton of karmas that were requested Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs You've got karma. I'll do the birthdays right here because it's pretty short anyway so let's roll those out. Hey everybody! It is the 7th of July 2019, two birthdays today Sir John overall celebrates and Jeffrey Alicia celebrates on the 9th of July and even though it's just two of you we are very happy for you Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in The Universe

2:16:55 Meetups. Report! We had the Lisbon meetup, which was... didn't well it kind of went as expected this was Dame Sheila the lady of Lisboa who organized this in the morning Adam and John quick update on the meetup it was called a very short notice so to be honest I wasn't actually expecting anyone to show up But I'm leaving Lisbon tomorrow for the next two months and i want to try and harness the energy of your recent visit to access the network. And it worked! I got there at 6 p.m sharp, and within 10 minutes had the phone handed to me twice by the barman Both Jeff and Huao Zhao called to let me know they would not be able to come how gallant

2:17:38 We are all now in contact and I'm going to arrange another meetup when i get back in September. Turns out João works just around the corner from where I live, and Jeff is in the same town where my father-in-law has a house Thanks for all you and John do even though we haven't met somehow I know we're all going to get along Best Dame Sheila The Lady of Lisboa who apparently did the meetup all by herself And she wanted to goat karma for that and she deserves it Thank You very much lady You've got Karma Of Lisboa Maybe she had a nice chat with the bar guy. Now, the Netherlands which was held... Let's hope! Yes The Netherlands Gitmo Lowlands Utrecht meetup was very successful and I got a note from Sir Hendrik in the morning Adam John now that I finally have the pictures of your flailing dance routine I congratulate you on your marriage Tina sure looks like a keeper from the stories You two are a good match best wishes to both of you yesterday evening was the second meet up and get my low lands

2:18:38 16 people showed up, of which 3 were women. It's true that was said about these meetups... it truly feels like a support group for people who are red-pilled! And the bar girl asked, hey who are you? Who ARE YOU GUYS?! That's my Dutch Bar Girl I hit her in the mouth Most of us turned out to have an IT background The bar was good pick They had enough room Beer and food No reservations needed I counted these people Andre Peters Sir Pete Sir Pate Baron of North Holland & Friesland And he showed up with our heads on sticks, which is always a welcome meetup feature. Sir Hierko Groenewegen, instant knight from... well we just knighted him the other day. Sir D of the Hollandse Rading, Viscount Sir Huxbergen of the Alps in Zaandam, Viscount Sir Hugger of Kiddies, Gerrit Jan Doorneveert

2:19:28 Tim Goudriaan, Arnout Verheij, Sabine Luka Batinik Fred van Leeuwen Associate Producer Joep Someone brought his daughter but I can't remember who and there was someone there from... Oh interesting whose name does not want to be mentioned but she works at a very left-wing television organization in The Netherlands That's all of them! It's redundant So that so it was a good meetup. They had a good time and I've received several other emails And I appreciate you guys organizing that sir Here co who was knighted on the last show he said actually he needed a jobs karma sold Let me do that for him right now Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for John

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2:21:03 seen these meetups, then you should go check them out. NoagendaMeetups.com if there's not a MeetUp near you, you can start one! It is a great place to meet people and have conversations without triggering anybody... no condemnation It's a very pleasant experience. NoagendaMeetups.com and thank you all once again for your support of the show today, you can always help us out we have another show on Thursday we can use it. Dvorak.org slash N A Alright, I do have a couple of things left over that. I'd like to share because I keep pushing them off the first one is this Report which has been out there for a few weeks welcome back a former NASA intern could soon become a millionaire when he sells three lost reels and

2:21:54 of original videotapes showing man's first steps on the moon. Imagine that! This is a photo of the reels that will go up for sale through Sotheby's, The auction site says they in turn bought these and 1100 other reels at a government surplus auction for about get this $200 in the 1970s The man told Reuters quote I had no idea there was anything of value on them I was selling them to TV stations just to record over to make some money. The man says his father spotted the tape on these three reels which read Apollo 11, the name of the mission where Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin first walked on the moon and back in 2006 NASA publicly admitted it lost the tapes ahead of the 40th anniversary of that moonwalk now they're set to be sold at auction at the end of the month on the 50th anniversary they're expected to go up for about two million dollars you know

2:22:44 If these are indeed the tapes that NASA lost... Let's assume they are. Is it really okay for this guy to be auctioning them off? Well, it definitely begs a number of questions including Why were they so cavalier to just toss them into the bin that goes and gets auctioned off as reusable tape? That's the number one question that comes to my mind. And why would you do that, what was... You see this is a problem with this story is it's just adding fuel to your fire that this whole thing was a scam and they care so little about it that they didn't even bother keeping whatever- They tossed him out!

2:23:35 Okay so these are the tapes and I'm not gonna play the clips we have multiple clips of people saying how horrible it is that they lost the original NASA recordings. They apparently didn't lose them according to this story no they threw them out according to this story, they put him in the dumpster now I wonder if there will be cycling bin if they will also contain the telemetry data which apparently also has been misplaced lost or thrown out and why is that every person from NASA who knows about the original recordings of the moon landing being lost, why do they all say you couldn't play it today anyway when these tapes are Ampex 2-inch forehead tapes? Yeah. You know it's old, its 60s 70s technology I can call five companies right now who can play those tapes

2:24:27 They have, right I should mention this because there's a project called the dead media project and we know that Ampeg, there are still a number of these machines left. It's believed, because I look into this myself. It's believed that the number of left two-inch tapes that are still available, the number of tapes will not outlast the life of these machines no matter how hard you try to fix them right now they have these Ampex machines or giant machines use this 2 inch tape and the head flies across the thing up and down

2:25:04 They believe they can't get enough parts and stuff to keep these machines going as long, as long as they need to be going for the... But it would seem as though these tapes, these two inch tapes that we're talking about here would have high priority. And you're right there's at least a I don't know how many of these machines are left but there's enough that they could put one put in play right now and dub it. Yeah, It's The story is very fishy to me There's also another story that says the guy went to NASA and they played it back for him. And I guess, oh here are the tapes! But this whole thing smells... And it is coming on its 50th anniversary It's coming up on Space Force We're supposed to land on the moon in 2024 which is the only reason I'm going to continue doing this show so just in 2024 I can say see? Because we're not gonna land on the moon Don't get your hopes up. It's not gonna happen

2:26:02 There'll be some other news. Trump is already saying, oh we should go to Mars! Okay it's only a thousand times further. Anyway I'd catch on that i didn't know this was going on what that somebody found these old tapes so they picked them up at the government auction for 200 bucks and You know NASA doesn't say hey, why don't you give us a copy? I mean are these is how come the guys in the black suits don't show up and just grab the tapes and Are the tapes actually still good. I mean that they show pictures of these tapes out of their boxes Which is extremely stupid

2:26:40 Certainly Christie's would know better if they're really running this auction You do not take these tapes out of their see the plastic sealed containers with a big turn lock on them I've carried these around for years And the minute you expose them to The atmosphere it can get very very bad. I would believe these tapes are still good Even though they've been exposed to the up to the elements to oxygen Yeah, absolutely. It's not a cellulose movie film that you know is dangerous going to explode it just it's a magnetic tape the problem is going to be since they've been in storage for so long there's gonna be a lot of crosstalk

2:27:17 Which is a real problem with magnetic tape and storing it. That's why you should run the tape every once in awhile so you don't have the same magnetic image pushing against the tape at the same exact spot for very long time because it will magnetize it, so you're going to have a messy image. I see the problem. But that's really only danger but and I'm sure its gonna be problematic but still... Somewhere I still have a couple of these. We call them BNCs With those no the BNCs were the smaller ones. Those were the one yeah, I think you always use the helical head right these heads on these ampexes were vertical They just ran straight across the tape up and down And it's spinning spinning thing is a two with four heads on it Yeah, I can't keep machine. I used to uh I used to be able to calibrate them A 2-inch machine yet 2 inch forehead and went like this

2:28:06 You put up the bars, you know you or you roll the tape on the bars And then there were basically two knobs But you would kick the machine just to the right at the bottom and that would somehow always get it to align almost automatically Sounds like Ampex It was Dutch broadcasting. So yes, it was totally Ampex Okay Then as many know I'm a big fan of professor Ted and his writings the Industrial Society and its future I think he accurately predicted the social justice warrior movement the social networks His story has been changed and mutated over the years. We recently had Joe Rogan talk about Professor Ted's, I'm talking about the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski and incorrectly said that Professor Ted went nuts and started blowing people up No! The true story is he wrote this manifesto which you can download from any place You could even get a copy on Amazon

2:29:06 He felt that what was in there was so important and that the industrial society through technology would come to a horrible demise. And I think, to a degree he's probably right And he felt it was extremely important that the New York Times and Washington Post published his manifesto. They refused, and then he said if you don't publish it I- It's so important to me...I'm gonna start killing people until you do! Then he started killing people, and they did! No one ever even remembers that it was published but interestingly Which of course I condemn his killing of people But I suggest you read this document and you will be surprised by the accuracy Of what is going on right now today with social networking and technology Right down to the world coming to an absolute standstill and freak out when Facebook images don't load. Oh

2:30:00 Sam Harris of the Sam Harris podcast started his show off the other day with this. I just reread the Unabomber's manifesto for the first time since it was originally published as you might recall under threat of further maiming and murder, and It is a slightly crazy document You can certainly hear Kaczynski grinding in his teeth in the background more or less throughout But the truth is, it is better reasoned and modulated than half of what I see on Twitter. And this from people with blue checkmarks by their names and large followings So I don't know what it means to be able to honestly say that half the people on Twitter seem less hinged that a man who was sending bombs in the mail but it does seem we're performing an experiment on ourselves

2:31:00 consequences of which are as yet undetermined. Anyway, I'm very happy to have withdrawn to the degree that I have it feels far more sane." And when he says withdrawn He's talking about withdrawing from social media So maybe if you haven't if you've only thought ah curry your nut job Maybe you should give it a listen. That means Sam Harris after all don't take it from me Take it from Sam. Oh Sam Sam Sam Well, I have a couple of things left. One... Oh by the way it's hot in Canada somewhere and Alaska I guess is 85-86 degrees up there everywhere and things melted

2:31:45 Play the hot in Canada thing get that out of the way step outside and basically started sweating immediately Yeah, him and everybody else across eastern. Canada lots of places experienced their hottest day so far this year It felt like close to 40 degrees with the humidity And there won't be much relief tonight either heat warnings are still in place in parts of Quebec Ontario New Brunswick and Nova Scotia Of course hottest year on record ever all gonna die pay your carbon tax slave Yep, 62 here. So there's a this is the story that I at least don't want to run because it's kind of depressing mad course I talked to Mimi about this Mad Magazine shutters play the clip and iconic mad magazine will leave newsstands this fall ending its 67 year long run the satirical magazine with its

2:32:36 Gaptooth mascot Alfred E. Newman influenced generations of readers with its subversive humor at its peak in the early 1970s it attracted more than 2 million subscribers, but its circulation declined in recent years Yeah I was just gonna say that Mad Magazine was a staple for me as a kid growing up Well, there I mentioned this to Mimi and she says when's the last time you bought a copy? And there's another example of well you never support the thing. So this is gonna happen in the podcast the way it's going You didn't support Mad Magazine. You haven't bought a copy for what 10 years and now and your bitching about the fact that it's shuddering okay well maybe your it's your fault Now there was also social justice warrior I understand that took over the publication Oh really? That sad... By the way I'm one of the few people if not

2:33:32 I don't even know anyone else who's done it, that licensed the Alfred E. Newman character for a computer book that i did once. Oh really? Yeah we got the license and it was like oh you can't get yeah no you can't do this just ask them if you can maybe they'll license the character and they did! Do you remember what it cost No, I don't remember the details. It wasn't much that was...I remember that much because these guys McGraw-Hill they weren't that didn't have that much money so it was pretty inexpensive. I just think nobody ever asked! People you have to ask once in a while. I remember as probably seven year old maybe? So 70 yeah that makes sense

2:34:16 that Mad Magazine was kind of like for a young guy, it had a bit of a porn taint to it. Tain't? A poor choice of words. He said taint. It... you know Spy vs Spy was of course my favorite but there was they always drew chicks man And they drew them in very suggestive sexual ways. Oh, yeah big giant tops and Yeah, it was a real yes. Yeah, it's a real coming-of-age Type thing so I thought they only stopped publishing the magazine But they would continue online or is it really completely gone? It's hard to say there is was unclear hmm

2:35:02 The magazine was the magazine. I have a also in the later years like more recently they had some Tremendous cover art that was done by some very always good Oh, didn't they have the fold over on the back? Yeah, that was every so what a classic it was there was so much fun Where you would have this picture and then you'd have to fold it in half or create a fold in it, that would be something else. It would be the payoff of the joke which you can't really do on digital anymore. That was a true paper... You could have an animation and it's not the same A true...it's gone just the foldover

2:35:41 Something that will never come back. It's all gone. It's all gone Hey, you know you were talking about Ebola not being mentioned here We always like to hop on television and talk about gun violence and gun deaths Not we know yeah, not we but to the mainstream media does media does it let's check in with Chicago over the weekend The holiday weekend is not over yet and already 57 people have been shot in Chicago with at least five of them killed Oh Let's not report on that people. No you don't want a report on that because You know, if Chicago would just tighten up their gun laws this wouldn't be a problem. Yeah they gotta make them even tighter. Oh wait a minute let me look oh I'm sorry Chicago has some of the most stringent gun laws huh how does that work? Doesn't seem to be well you know for the same reason that Austin is

2:36:33 Austin is letting people camp out on their streets. It hasn't happened yet, by the way I've been driving through town almost every day to see if there's any tents on Congress Avenue it has not happened yet. It's coming Oh i'm sure its coming and pooping on the street is coming! It's all come... oh here's your... Pooping on the street Poopin' on the street Gavin Newsom is your mayor or governor? What does he now He's the Governor Here's a little gaffe The flag of San Francisco is a phoenix rising that came out of the ashes in the 1906 earthquake. And the Phoenix rising is symbolic because San Francisco rose from those asses." From those asses? Yes! I wish that was more clear Me too, but it was worth the 11 seconds So it looks like the BBC or the British I think is ITV

2:37:31 They kind of took the reins and the ideas of the reality TV, and they have this huge hit called Love Island. Okay, and what is what is what is love Island to the US now? And here's a report that's kind of interesting because people are like people have taken participating in the show or killing themselves. Oh You know I've always been a big proponent of showing death on television real death is is a ratings winner Surprised Young attractive singles in a Mediterranean villa looking for love all while being filmed 24-7 the public have decided that the islander they want to save is There's public voting, a cash prize and fresh episodes six nights a week for five weeks. Love Island has capitalized

2:38:23 millions of viewers in the UK. Are you ready America? And now, the hit British reality show's American version will debut this month. It's a little trashier than you might see on a regular reality show and it's proud of that trashiness and it's meant to be kind of like the ultimate guilty pleasure. But these made-for TV social experiments are also facing increased scrutiny As far as reality television is concerned, we're moving inexorably towards a sort of version of The Hunger Games The UK government launched an inquiry into reality tv to deal with concerns following the recent suicides of contestants including two on ITVs Love Island Okay

2:39:06 So they've apparently I didn't know this but they have these shrinks now and part two will discuss that. Honey Lancaster James has worked as a resident psychologist on reality TV sets including Love Island I think we're at a time when we really do need to review the kind of psychological welfare services that are put in place on a production. Love Island producers say they will increase psychological supports for contestants after they leave the show, something Lancaster James says is needed. People seem to think that just because you live in or you're on TV, or in the movies that somehow you've got this amazing life and you should be able to weather any criticism that comes your way because you've chosen a public life. Toronto firefighter Kevin Wendt knows the risks of starring in reality tv all too well It's definitely something you are not prepared for. Wendt appeared on Canada's Bachelorette and caught the attention of American producers who cast him in hugely popular bachelor franchise spin-offs

2:40:06 Kevin is in the final stage of shooting. But his newfound fame did post challenges When you just read a few comments online that you're this and that it can really ruin your day And it can really push you into a depression, and I found myself to be pretty depressed um I did seek help I went to therapy twice a week for half a year or so after the first show I was on Um...and then you just slowly kind of rebuild yourself back Went says something positive did come out of his reality TV experience Not only did he meet his future wife. He learned to put his mental health first Like going on a TV show There's the common theme here should mention which is that you can roll role Is social media if he wasn't reading all these comments, you know that we're on social media and this is true with professional athletes and everybody else's social media is making people kill themselves That should be a hint

2:41:06 That's the big hint. Get off Facebook! And Twitter, and Instagram... Don't worry these things are falling down flat on their face every single day now iCloud was out centralized services are on the way out people Join the Federation!!! Well I'm the king of the federation so... Adam McClary for King Of The Federation! I need you to walk in front of me and announce me everywhere And with that people, ends our deconstruction for today. Thank you all for... thank you for the trolls who showed up in the troll room we appreciate that and those of you who participated in our value-for-value network coming to you from the frontier of Austin Texas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Coming up next The Grumpy Old Bens with the Electro College episode thanks

2:42:06 Well, of course Sir Chris Wilson UK PMX and more for our end-of-show mixes until Thursday adios mofos! And such... Maxine's gravel If I had a gravel I'd bang it in the morning I'd bang it in the evening All over this land I'd bang out danger, I'd bang out warning. I'll bang out Trump for collusion with the Russians all over this land

2:42:47 Maxine's ground, if I could impeach Trump. I'd impeach him in the morning. I'd impeach him in the evening All over this land And I'd impeach Kushner and I'd impeach Putin I'd impeach them all for collusion with the Russians All over this land Maxine's gravel, Maxine's gravel. Go kids go! What is going on? Why am I losing this? Why don't i have sound? Alright it's back Someone pressing buttons and turning my sound up someone in that control room was out of control Control room what do you got? There's insanity in the control room The Labor Day sale, save on everything store line The woman talking in my ear was talking about the labor day special Who has a hammer

2:43:45 Where's the hammer? Stop the hammering. The hammering! How do you say this guy is last night? Dvorak, hello! Time out bro! We did blow that one up Why don't I have sound It's back. What's going on? Why am I losing this? There is insanity in the control room tonight! Someone is pressing buttons... someone in that control room was out of control

2:44:26 Where's the hammer? Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering! Someone is pressing buttons here... Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering out there! Where's the hammer?! Stop the hammering! Someone's pressing buttons. Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering out there! Where is the hammer? Someone is pressing buttons, turning my sound on... Why don't I have sound?

2:45:05 Alright, it's back. Where is the hammer? Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering! Someone is pressing buttons here... Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering out there! Where is the hammer?! Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering! Someone's pressing buttons. Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering out there, where is the hammer? Why don't I have sound? Alright it's back What's going on why am i losing this? There's insanity in the controllers

2:45:56 Someone's pressing buttons. Someone in that control room is out of control! Stop the hammering, Afton! The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A. Stop the hammering!!