Gender Justice

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVore It's Thursday June 27th 2019 This is your award-winning Gimmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1150! This is no agenda Enjoying all the bugs on offer in my city and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where the Democrats all say El podcast no agenda es lo mas importante! I'm John C. Porter It's crackpot and buzzkill! In The Mornin'! Okay we can all go home you nailed it...and that's our show

00:44 Ah, very good. Very good I have to admit...I did double duty but really chose for a different activity last night Sex? Oh god, I wish. No! Second best thing...I went out to dinner with the former New York banker. Oh good Yeah yeah which you know it's like really dude you know what i do You're gonna take me out on a Wednesday night when you know the debates are on? You can go watch the debates at the bar. I bet all the bars have debates on. No not where we went. Nuh uh. Well in LA they did.

01:23 You would have actually it would have been a very Austin thing, but he took me to a brand new restaurant Okay there and let me tell you this is big outside money coming into Austin look up Commodore C o M e d or Commodore in Austin. This is I don't know how much they paid to build this restaurant It is cool Hmm see oh em ed or yeah call my dollar Boston yes They got some like celebrity guys. I guess and some kind of well-known chef It's a Mexican restaurant, but it has a very specific Hook besides it being you know total kind of hipster place In architecture, I mean seriously the way they built this with no cool You know they can open up the whole side of the other restaurant And they've got these beautiful chain looks very steampunk ish

02:24 But there's to be is this the big brown building or the one next to it. That's another is the building It's well, it's Brown you see brick in front. It's a yes Brown anyway giant their Their hook is they serve bugs Oh Brother how could how could I pass it up? Did you have any of course I did I had the ants and the grasshoppers oh God doomed Honestly, it was disappointing because they have one cuz you know the girl comes over she's like Well, yeah help you with anything. So yeah what has the grasshoppers? You know I've been to Mexico Mexico said in all I don't know that I went to One of the better restaurants in Mexico City and they had bugs on the menu Well, it was here's the disappointment weird mold that you get off a corn but yes They served out as well It's fungus I think

03:23 Well, whatever it is. It's really tasty. It's very tasty! I was disappointed...I'm thinking I'm gonna have great...you know, I'm gonna see a grasshopper and I'm gonna have to crunch this thing in my teeth These were little baby grasshoppers like they just came out of an incubator Little preemies. It was just the sprinkling on top Now you can't- You couldn't really tell- I tried to take a picture but you can't really tell if its graced- Maybe maybe it's just that you could see an odd leg or two But it was a... You know, place like this is that it's a good cover for when it gets infested by cockroaches. And then the ants were on the dessert on the ice cream so they... Charming Sprinkle little dab which interestingly The New York banker turned his nose up at that he tried to go to whereas I tried him and I thought hmm peppery you know their peppery yeah

04:22 So then you did double duty so you came back and watched the debates after the fact? Yeah, I skimmed through it. This... I knew this wasn't going to be much and although for me it was kind of interesting the audio, the technical issues they had. I really felt bad while everyone's laughing and you know... Somebody got their inner tit in a ringer right now! I know this feeling there's a guy and he's pulling his hair out and they can't figure out why the routing from the IFB from from the control room is routing through to the floor and probably in everyone else's IFB. And by the way, with these new rigs I don't even know if I could even operate one they have this networking system there's a name for it and everybody uses it. Oh its audio networking yeah It all runs through... There are no more cables No more cables! Its Ethernet You can't go unplug anything! No, it's all Ethernet so that the routing matrix is completely digitized

05:25 This is why I felt bad. I couldn't really sit there with schadenfreude going, ha-ha-ha! You suck! Even though I understand why people think it's funny but from a professional standpoint i feel bad some guy something happened and... ...I've been there so many times on this very show so you know I did like the memes though. Trump was tweeting all kinds of funny memes about, and of course distracting from anything by just highlighting the audio glitch But also, you know everyone on stage almost everyone on stage they take themselves so seriously and especially MSNBC and Rachel and and Chip Chuck Chod cast. They go, whoa whoa whoa! Most of the debaters were participating in Democracy! Please! This stupid little dog-and-pony show it's not even a debate

06:23 They can have 10 people and have a debate. Have you ever... You were a master debater, weren't you? In school? I was always a master debater! I masturbated to masturbate okay here we go. Whoa! You can't even keep the joke alive. No i tried. Well let's start with this. You nailed it You dropped the ball, you unnailed it and you went off your merry way with Stacey Abrams. What? Yes! I remember this. It was about a year or maybe two years ago when you called out Castro as the guy, the go-to guy! No incorrect no incorrect it was Pennebaker the professor in Austin when he was accusing me and my then future wife of having white privilege and saying that the Castro brothers were going to be The Ones it wasn't me it was from an Obot dinner

07:23 Well, you brought it up. That's different! In fact Castro was the guy who won You think? Oh I disagree, I disagree You can disagree all you want but if you read anything this morning and if you watch the thing with a Democrat perspective or you listen to the kids now that...I'm gonna play some clips from the teen panel Can I just say one thing about Castro briefly last night The only thing the banker said, the former banker said about the debates was well this should be Castro's last stand he should be out of there by now and I have no idea it came out of the blue. I didn't really ask him about anything He pinpointed Castro as Castro has got to go! And i'm just taking this in for what it is elite circles etc

08:09 He's probably anti-bank or something. I mean Castro is not gonna get in anyway, but he just he's not gonna go after this performance Most people saw him as number one and for let's see what the teens What is this? Yeah, what does this teens panel what's going on with us? She put together a panel of teens Millennials and they're not all teams and most some college students But I'm calling them teens because it sounded like give you an example of the of the teen, here's a comment from one of the college panelists. This is a guy with probably an inflamed amygdala Trump hater I'm guessing confused in general and I want you to listen to this guy and tell me what he said after after you play this clip which is teen panel weird comments that go nowhere clip. I'm also very interested in the preventative care model that

09:02 the Democratic candidates have seemed to suggest tonight, where we look at the root causes of the issue whether that is gun control or immigration uh...or health care and we notice that there's a lack of economic opportunity and there's also um...a lack of care services are implemented throughout one's lifetime that might result in these really terrible social issues. What? Was I supposed to understand that somehow? Very, very difficult. It was just dropping in memes and it was like there was nonstop and he never really concluded anything it was idiotic but that but that was the group this is a bunch of young college kids and they... And so here I got a couple things here's the here they're talking about uh the Spanish that was initiated by Castro

09:53 No. Beto? No! What are you talking about? It was initiated by the, uh, Beto. Yeah, Beto that's what I said, Beto In the first round of questions which had me take some notes on it because there were a couple things they noticed one was Amy Klobuchar when they first turned the camera on her She was if you had a 4k TV and you could get it had good upscaling she was shaking like a leaf Well, I thought Booker's face was pretty funny when Beto started doing that bookers face like oh, you know what? lit up when Beto O'Rourke starts speaking Spanish and so then Booker fell he had to speak some Spanish. And of course the only guy who really speaking perfect Spanish was Castro

10:43 And then another one that really I thought was a pure fail was Tulsi. She's asked the question right off the bat, her first question was very specific question and instead of even coming close to answering it she goes off on her creds and her bio or you know her background in how she went through the war number times and she is only anti-war candidate had nothing to do with it So she was out and then the other thing I noticed, the major thing I noticed that this again would be NBC staging. There were nobody was using apple crates. So you saw a midget, a dwarf, a big tall dude I mean it was horrible looking You know it's interesting you say that as I looked at the shot and again It was...I didn't get home until quarter to ten As I looked at the shot like what if something is wrong with this And I couldn't quite pinpoint it but you just nailed it They didn't equalize the candidates

11:44 They didn't have to equalize it so they're even. No, but a little bit A little something because you got a 6'9 guy there You got another tall dude Tulsi's pretty big so she held her own But you gotta- Pretty much a borderline dwarf with Klobuchar and then Warren is the diminutive She's a petite woman And so they needed to put them on a full crate at least By the way we are talking as television producers here not as hateful people This is how television producers talk. Dead lady's borderline dwarf get her an apple crate! Yeah

12:22 By the way, I disagree about Tulsi but we can get to that later after you're done with your team panel. Well Tulsi was one of the losers but so let's listen to the kids talking about what they thought about them speaking Spanish What were some eye roll moments because i definitely saw some from you guys Arianne? I saw a lot from you when Cory Booker was talking I saw a couple like oh god from you guys So what were some of those things that you weren't so thrilled about When Beto spoke Spanish, initially I don't want to say that I didn't like it but I think it caught some people off guard and you could see even some of the other candidates were a little shaken up by that so I thought that was interesting. Booker's expression is trending all over Twitter! I think just as the Spanish speaking went on I thought that it was great when Beto did it for the first time but then as it continued on with multiple candidates especially with Booker it kind of felt like pandering

13:13 For some reason it just didn't feel as genuine coming from him And I just feel like any moments that didn't feel as genuine coming from the candidates when we talked about like wait a minute Let me ask you question Like is this like a white valley girl type light girl who has he was talking about pandering? Like to brown people she even allowed to do that doesn't your white privilege. Like is that okay? Any politics when you add the vocal fry to make that I can't do it his neighborhood repeatedly in kind of the same fashion and I felt like that was a natural moment for me. Typical, typical! I got A LOT of feedback from the millennials about this They thought it was- they didn't like it Didn't like any of it And I'm surprised and like How can you be so racist? Just using their words Well anyway let's listen to this clip retaining

14:01 I'm sorry, retain? Debate team. Oh i'm sorry yes I got it How we often have to try to balance the two finding jobs or taking care of the environment and seeing what's going to happen in the future so Elizabeth kind of talked about on The Green Deal, Green New Deal kinda helping those who are within these dying industries helping them to retrain into newer industries that way they're not necessarily losing their jobs they are simply moving into something else that would be able to help not only the economy, but to be able to help the environment. So that's actually a very interesting perspective. Did you get the specifics on the economic issues that we talked about before the debate? No. I mean, Mayor de Blasio specifically kept talking about how he wants to shift the Democratic Party back to being the party of the working class but never really gave me any specific policy solutions for it

15:09 And the fact of the matter is that Blue Collar America's happening in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan. Those key states that the president won in 2016 because this message resonated with those kinds of voters. Blue Collar America isn't happening as much in New York City as it is places like me at home in West Virginia so I felt like a lot of candidates sort of talked about Elizabeth Warren talked about poor people but I felt more helping them as poor people and not getting them back on their feet, finding jobs for them. And putting them into careers where they can support their families again Well that's not, I think that's valid. That was a good point! Yeah, it was a very good point All I ever hear is we'll give you money we'll fix your problems with money don't worry about anything systemic We'll fix it with money! Well so some of these young Democrats may be thinking otherwise and I think they're uh these guys are losing them that's why they think Bernie appeals so much So let's here's their now this is the finale clip This is each one of them saying who they thought won The debate Alright guys quick lightning round

16:11 Who won tonight in your eyes? We'll start with Valentina and go this way. Julian Castro for actually talking policy. Julian Castro. Castro for the same reasons. Wow! Secretary Castro I think Warren actually did a good job, but I do agree. I thought Castro stood out as one of the lesser-known candidates. I was actually very surprised by Mayor de Blasio's ideas and his messaging Wow so Castro kind of stole the spotlight and DeBlasio came out a little bit too. Awesome! Thanks everybody thanks for coming everybody don't forget your don't forget your goodie bag you tote bag your swag bag on the way out awesome boys and girls

16:51 Yeah, yeah. The fact that we even have to somehow have to have winners is dumb it's ludicrous the whole thing It's ludicrous there no winner and you put ten people on a pin I want to play Tulsi Gabbard because this was the...I've liked her and if there's any Democrat I've liked consistently on this show for years it's Tulsi Gabbard And uh..you can call her loser She's a loser in this. No, there are no winners! Just hold hands and tell the secret! I think what she did with the Ryan character... was that Tim Ryan?

17:30 Ted Ryan Fred Ryan, I think she but slandered good. I've been in Congress 17 years and 12 of those years I sat on the Armed Services Committee there the Defense Appropriations Committee or the Armed Services Committee And the lesson that I've learned over the years is that you have to stay engaged in these situations Nobody likes it It's long its tedious But right now we have, so I would say we must be engaged in this. We must have our State Department engaged, we must have our military engaged to the extent they need to be. If getting drones shot down for $130 million because the President is distracted

18:14 That's $130 million that we could be spending in places like Youngstown, Ohio or Flint Michigan. Congressman Ryan... Or rebuilding... I'm going to give you 30 seconds actually to jump off what he said. Is that what you will tell the parents of those two soldiers who were just killed in Afghanistan? Will we just have to be engaged As a soldier, I will tell you that answer is unacceptable. I'm not quite sure why, Scott Adams might have a better idea. But when she says as a soldier her just the way she looked on stage who she is you go your head kind of goes if you don't know who she is like oh a soldier and the search data and I want to finish this clip showed that she was the most searched for name after the debate

19:08 even during some of the debate, like across the country. Now it's a Google Maps or who-the-hell knows you know you can't trust anything but we'll just take it as a baseline and I think that for her overall awareness if you know this shows general consensus is she's raising her profile to take over Maisie Hirono gig then yeah I thought it was good and to me this is she needs to do that more often. ...who were just killed in Afghanistan will we just have to be engaged As a soldier, I will tell you that answer is unacceptable. We have to bring our troops home from Afghanistan. We are in a place in Afghanistan where we have lost so many lives, we've spent so much money – money that's coming out of every one of our pockets, money that should be going into communities here at home meeting the needs of the people here at home. We are no better off in Afghanistan today than we were when this war began. This is why it's so important to have a president and commander-in-chief

20:07 who knows the cost of war and is ready to do the job on day one. I am ready to do that job when i walk into The Oval Office. Thank you very much. So now Ryan, he had a look on his face man... He's pissed off so he does get 30 seconds You felt like she was responding? You get thirty seconds. Fair enough. I hear what your saying. Thank you Chuck! I would just say I don't want to be engaged. I wish we were spending all this money in places that have been completely forgotten and we were rebuilding But the reality of it is that the United States isn't engaged. The Taliban will grow and they won't have bigger, bolder terrorist acts we have got to have some present there as Congresswoman Raab. They were there long before we came in. They were there long before we left. We cannot keep U.S. troops deploying into Afghanistan thinking that we're going to somehow squash this

20:57 Taliban. I thought that was fantastic. Well, that was good but anyone could have done that because the guy's full of shit that guy she's a soldier Look, so he goes on with yeah the Taliban attacked us. Okay sure, Taliban's done nothing. They attack soldiers over there but the guy is a bonehead He's out! He's eliminated permanently for saying that I like Tulsi. I thought she finally brought a little bit of fire She needs to dial it up another hundred percent and she could go somewhere

21:52 She's not going anywhere in this election. She is going into the Senate, which would be a good spot... Somebody has got to get rid of this other woman I've gotta root for somebody! Well you should have rooted for your old pal Julian It's not my old pal Julian and from an American perspective all the Spanish speaking is truly... Why don't we just speak some Somali? You know, there's a whole bunch of groups we can talk to. Why doesn't everyone just get your Rosetta Stone and bone up on it? I mean come on! That... you...I find it insulting. I really do It's like because you know who you're talking to. You're not talking to Americans, you're talking to illegal immigrants People who are in America who are Mexican Spanish South American they speak and understand English

22:48 No, you're exactly right. That is the reason I don't see why it doesn't make it even more transparent the whole point of letting as many illegals in as possible and then speaking in Spanish! Yeah get them to vote you and then you can kick him out afterwards this was the kind of... There was a hilarious video on noagendasocial.com yeah of I think it was Castro speaking maybe it was Beto when during his thing And their subtitles which say, according to the Mueller report, No Agenda Show is the best podcast in the universe. I felt pretty left out and I understand kind of what he's saying or what they're saying when they do this but no it's just... I mean I could not imagine this happening in any other country and people would be up in arms here like oh wow you speak Spanish! But I think most Americans are actually impressed

23:46 Wow, he speaks another language. Yeah that's odd. What is that strange sound coming from his mouth? Maybe speaking in tongues But yeah the...in combination with everything about immigration then it's just clear what you're doing I mean and that's one way of viewing it but ah now I've been rear-ended by illegals in Austin with my truck that is um I'm around they speak English! They really do Anyway, so I'm looking at some of the tweets from the Democrats. It's funny how the Democrats really come out and they really take You think there'd be a little? Show business Democrats. I'm talking about that Hollywood elites Mm-hmm and they come out and they're just you know, this is pretty blunt Seth MacFarlane Candidates please stop yelling we are all on the same side What's the point of a debate then?

24:47 Yeah, what exactly? What's the point? Mia Farrow. All the topic being discussed by these candidates are important I feel proud to be a Democrat little flag The banker was saying he said interesting take on, he says it's then this is why I said there's no reason to watch it. He says what Trump had and what Trump did as he took the two issues that no Republican would take on at the time believe it or not was immigration and China because he had those two things which everyone knows is common sense

25:31 everybody, all sides all Americans and he just yelled those over and over again and forced everybody into it. You'll recall the immigration debate was forced by Trump and that's what... Yes well Trump takes credit for it, he reminds us of that right this is before me no one was even talking about this stuff now everybody's talking about it so that's how you That's how these days a political debate, that's how you get the points is you've got to choose something no one else really wants to talk about and then yell loudly over everybody else. That's what Trump did he took two main issues

26:07 And therefore he was the winner from day one on that and just kept hammering and hammering and hammering. Everyone sees the logic of it, but everyone's afraid. Everyone is afraid! Well there are also a number people who said I don't understand why they didn't go after Trump more even though they did a little bit Jay Inslee said something negative... Jay Inslee by the way was the guy standing next to the right of Tulsi He's the governor from Washington State who has a one issue thing, drum pound which is climate change. And he had a shit eating grin on his face

26:44 from the get-go and he just kept it plastered on there. So when you saw the camera angle with Tulsi yakking about something or even anyone down the row, and they kind of nicked his face at half profile but just a front... And you could see this dumb smile he had on his face I thought it was like so I mentioned this to Mimi she's like oh no that's... He always has a dumb smile on his face. A resting bitch face This is stupid. Anyway, well I found the whole thing to be... Well tedious no doubt It was a little tedious luckily it was only two hours I think tonight's will be a little better Now who has the debate tonight? Is that CNN? Is it CNN that is airing that tonight or is MSNBC again? I think it has got to have to be the same people So tonight we have Biden We have Bernie

27:34 We have, is Buttigieg on this one tonight or is he not? Yeah no he's on. Mayor Pete is in trouble man! I mean, I don't know if you followed the shooting in his town? In his hamlet where he is mayor. So there's only about a hundred thousand people in the town and actually have a little report about it but that the main thing is every single time they have video and audio or anything from Mayor Pete in this situation he has his head bowed down He can't really talk almost like he's been gut punched And I, well if you listen to this clip. I have my reasoning as to why he feels so downtrodden We have tried but not succeeded To increase diversity in the police department and we need help At home in South Bend Indiana Buddha Judge was confronted by accusations of bias In his city's police force Y'all got racism inside your police department How are we supposed to trust it? I am raising a 7 year old grandson that when he sees the

28:35 the police, he is afraid. That is not what's supposed to happen. Racial tensions flared last week after a white South Bend police officer shot and killed a black man who was allegedly holding a knife. The officer was wearing a body camera but it was not turned on if anyone who is on patrol is shown to be racist or to do something racist in a way that is substantiated, that is their last day on the street. Wrong answer Mayor Pete!

29:12 But a judge dropped off the campaign trail after the shooting last week. I just think it's my job. Um, I don't know if it's smart or not. I don't know if it's strategic or that but this is my city. Yeah he's actually upset that he's out of the race then that's really what he's upset about. I'm just gonna call it. He doesn't give a crap. I don't think...He seems like a very ineffective leader Well, he I'm gonna call you can call that a you're right. But he never was in the race to any extent except as a novelty. It's one of those novelty act. Yes. One of the spook novelties. Spook novelty? He's not in the race

29:58 for president anyway. He wants to move up to the state house or this governor, or senator just like Tulsi. These people and I don't know how many of them are running that are on this who i'd put in this category those two for sure they're just running to raise their public profile get some free air time and then run for senate or something else. Of all the candidates is there a single black American? I think Booker is He's brown, but is he Ados? I think he's Ados. Hmm...I'm not so sure. I'll have to look into it. I'd be surprised if he wasn't. Well tonight should be just as dumb

30:44 Honestly, no tonight will be better. I think tonight will be great because they got you're gonna have to deal with Bernie Sorry, well, I want to play a little jingle about Bernie and an oldie That's right everybody Bernie's got a big black problem. Oh, yes he does He's got a huge black problem. I have a clip Yeah That's why he'll never guess what you can't win now? I Got another bunch of panelists that came up on NBC that talked about the debates and I kind of concentrate on NBC because they Gave the debase they had people backstage there the whole thing going on

31:38 And there was, I've got three clips. One of them is the most important one because they introduced or one of the panelists introduced this term which was actually brought up by...I can't remember which are the guys up there? Oh yeah! I know exactly what you're talking about. The term is reproductive justice It was beautiful And I was one of the panelists that threw it out there. It was Amy or... I don't know who it was. No, it was a dude. Oh then it was de Blasio? Yeah troll room might know. Yeah I think it was De Blasio whatever it was here's a little discussion of it

32:20 The post-show discussion? Yeah, post show. It is also related to making sure that you can raise your family in a safe community That you have access to health care throughout that child's life and your own life And that they can rise up the socioeconomic ladder So it's a more holistic approach and that was a radical moment To say reproductive justice is a debate Radically Yes And I think, Hillary Clinton did talk about reproductive justice in the 2016 campaign. But perhaps not in that way. In her speech to Clamparenthood but I cannot recall her saying those words in a debate and that's a big moment So what did you think Jackie? Did you feel like the issue of women rights and abortion was adequately addressed by the candidates

33:00 I do and i really did appreciate Amy Klobuchar's zinger back at Governor Ainslie. You all called it mansplaining for the period, was there mansplaining going on? Perhaps a little bit so he did make a pretty bold and not totally accurate claim that yeah he was the only person to protect abortion rights in which you know meanwhile there are three female candidates on the stage who have also pretty much dedicated their career to doing this legislation. Yeah, but what I'm actually really curious is to see Joe Biden answer that question tomorrow and i was actually pretty surprised that Biden's name didn't come up during the conversation because he is the one candidate who has been a bit behind the curve especially in the conversation of reproductive justice because he hasn't seemed to understand that a lot of the issues around reproductive justice disproportionately affects

33:48 women of color. Are you speaking about the Hyde Amendment? Exactly, and there was a reporting that his top female advisors had to educate him on why it was important for him to change his mind and flip-flop on the Hyde Amendment because it disproportionately affects communities of color I'm so happy to hear these white women talking about reproductive justice as I read from the Wikipedia on this subject Reproductive justice is the human right to maintain personal bodily autonomy, have children not have children and parent the children we have in safe and sustainable communities. And this is according to SisterSong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective, the first organization founded to build a reproductive justice movement.

34:39 Yeah, this is all done by black women. They've set this up and they... it doesn't sound exactly the way they are talking about it, the white women I hear here Well, its gonna morph because we talked about on show that people should realize that The difference, and it's not my... It was somebody else who brought this up years ago. And as soon as they did you realize this is what it's all about the Democrats are for I have two themes justice so that dropped a word justice on anything that's great right? Justice and equality and the Republicans are freedom and liberty. So you'll see in their literature either side you'll find a lot of references to freedom and liberty

35:25 on the Republican side or the conservative side. And you'll see a lot of references to justice and equality, which is a problem for the Democrats because equality leads to egalitarianism which leads to situations like they have in Sweden where people don't understand that not everybody's an egalitarian and you bring in a bunch outsiders who don't believe in this sort of thing and yet you have all kinds of issues And egalitarianism is a serious problem, generally speaking. Justice is what it is. Freedom and liberty are both kind of variations of the same theme. Well as you just heard that term the way it was used, reproductive justice could you sum up in one sentence what that is? I mean have it here so I'm curious what you think just having heard that What do you think that means? Reproductive justice...what is that definition

36:13 I think it means freedom to raise kids the way you want. Reproductive justice focuses on abortion access rather than abortion rights, asserting that the legal right to abortion is meaningless for women who cannot access it due to cost distance or other obstacles so no one's using it right they're just throwing and throwing it around yeah well you're right if that's the case because of its just an abortion issue Again, the Democrats do this. They take the word justice and they drop it here and they drop it there And they all get worked up about it. And this is another example of that, but it's going to be in the end play now in play. Yes and I believe it will become in play during the presidential. The Republicans and one of the reasons I think we like to do this show and have a lot... We have a lot of Republican listeners or conservatives is that they won't get caught off guard

37:13 I think a lot of Republicans and conservatives will get caught off guard when the... It's a strong term. It's a great word. Reproductive justice shows up! Just to put the word justice anywhere, podcast justice people that's what we need. Podcast Justice! And then when you hear that? You're like shit i can't refute that podcasters need justice. Who cares who cares podcasters need justice yeah Here's another thing a little bit more about I think that was reproductive justice. Why don't you play the Joe Biden apologizing clip? These are my personal beliefs, but I recognize what the rest of the country wants and seeks out of me and I need to try to meet the country where they are And I think Joe Biden needs to sort of articulate that tomorrow But how do you do that stylistically so that you still convey this authenticity

38:07 This is why I'm not a presidential candidate. I don't think it's difficult, right? For Joe Biden he can say look, I am Catholic this is what I believe there are many real at 70 plus percent of Americans consider themselves as Christians so he's not alone A lot of people have that belief however I do understand the importance of women reproductive rights and I want to make sure that I'm on the side of women simple Right, but there is a fine line though because when you apologize once then when does Joe Biden start apologizing for everything? Anita Hill, criminal justice bill. Well I would argue that some of the things on your list he does need to apologize for! But yeah... But I do think that's the trick when you have a long record it's like when you have this decades-long record you're gonna have a lot to explain and i think that you know the crime bill is another thing that's going to come up It came up for Hillary Clinton even though she wasn't in office um but Joe Biden wrote

38:54 crime bill and there's a lot of black people in prison as a result. And so he is going to have to speak to that constituency and explain, you know... I didn't see these circumstances, I didn't foresee it but.. The evolution! Yeah that's not gonna work. No one is gonna fall for that. I didn't know how or what the policy would do. Oh no, I'm sorry. Uhh, I think that he has got the same black problem that Bernie has Well, well this is bringing in Kamala Harris by way of an irony Mm-hmm. Kamala Harris is not respected by blacks generally speaking no a DOS blacks nope and but Bernie doesn't I'm now Bernie actually Bernie and Biden

39:36 Biden neither one of them know this they don't have a clue I mean well let's be real allow me to play a clip about Bernie from Antonio Moore from ADOS what up y'all this is Antonio more coming to you from Tom toss coming to you briefly with a quick hit because I got no notification that Bernie Sanders is talking about forgiving all the student debt While on one hand you can see that it's totally commendable if you don't give it context, and you don't understand That this is the same man that has talked about not giving cash payment for reparations. That's talked about the cost of reparations I understand that student debt is forgiven them 1 and a half trillion dollars in debt And primarily will go to white folks because of the amount of them they go to college versus us

38:54 crime bill and there's a lot of black people in prison as a result. And so he is going to have to speak to that constituency and explain, you know... I didn't see these circumstances, I didn't foresee it but.. The evolution! Yeah that's not gonna work. No one is gonna fall for that. I didn't know how or what the policy would do. Oh no, I'm sorry. Uhh, I think that he has got the same black problem that Bernie has Well, well this is bringing in Kamala Harris by way of an irony Mm-hmm. Kamala Harris is not respected by blacks generally speaking no a DOS blacks nope and but Bernie doesn't I'm now Bernie actually Bernie and Biden

39:36 Biden neither one of them know this they don't have a clue I mean well let's be real allow me to play a clip about Bernie from Antonio Moore from ADOS what up y'all this is Antonio more coming to you from Tom toss coming to you briefly with a quick hit because I got no notification that Bernie Sanders is talking about forgiving all the student debt While on one hand you can see that it's totally commendable if you don't give it context, and you don't understand That this is the same man that has talked about not giving cash payment for reparations. That's talked about the cost of reparations I understand that student debt is forgiven them 1 and a half trillion dollars in debt And primarily will go to white folks because of the amount of them they go to college versus us

40:17 Fundamentally, my belief is that even as somebody who has six figures in student debt that you don't forgive that debt until you make your debts whole regarding reparations. Don't give black families reparations to white middle class and white upper-class families that took on student debt it just doesn't work that way I say to you today what i believe should happen is that Bernie Sanders should come out and support a reparation first That Bernie Sanders should commit to a 10 trillion dollar reparations plan to be paid over 10 years, a trillion a year only to aid us American descendants of slavery to make these families whole and should guarantee an apology for slavery if he does become president. After that you can do one in a half trillion dollars student loan forgiveness plan which I'll be in full support of

41:00 So, you know he Elizabeth Warren Kamala Harris and does Biden support the The cancelling of student debt yet is he um easy on the the debt train or is he done? No He has not actually and I could be wrong. But as far as I know, he's not and I don't think he will And by the way, this is one of the main figures of the American descendants of slavery. What he's doing is YouTube from his car and I sent a message out saying you really should get on stage! This is not going to get attention doing YouTubes from your car. That is not how you get a movement going. So it doesn't matter they don't need him

41:45 Got everybody else, you know the student debt cancellation is beautiful. All the kids love it! All the kids except for the kids who chose not to go to college who are saying whoa... Or the kids who paid off their student debts they're not gonna be too pleased with this that's the problem with this kind of jubilee or any kind of dead holiday it's like Wait a minute, so I should have just been you know as a slouch and never paid anything and i'd be home free that's what you're saying? You're encouraging that. That's why it doesn't work Well here here's what was interesting last night my dinner with the former New York banker He schooled me on MMT

42:29 Which I know you've been looking into, which is this modern monetary theory. And the idea is you can print a hell of a lot more money than we're doing right now because it doesn't matter and he made a very compelling argument which I can't... He compared to Japan really He says look, you know what he called the liquidity trap. He says it turns out and he knows a lot I mean he was in the sovereign wealth sector so we not he knows a lot about global economics He said we can print trillions more It does not matter and no matter how I parade He had an answer and I know you've looked into it And yeah, it seems

43:10 that unlike what everyone from the Austrian School of Economics thinks, that it does indeed work and we could fund the debt cancellation. We could put in another 30 trillion into Green New Deal. We could do some reparations. We can do anything we want because it does not matter your take John C. Dvorak Well, I think people are looking at this or about modern monetary theory. They're looking at it from the wrong perspective First of all it's not about how much money is in circulation or anything like that It's about income inequality and if you listen to the people that promote this idea And he's right! It doesn't matter...I don't think it does either because and it's not going to matter when it comes

43:57 When it comes to the fact that there's an income, in fact it may worsen income inequality based on the economic cycle and based on what the And this woman, I think her name is Slotkin or something like that. She is the economic policy person for Bernie and she's one of the big promoters of MMT and she made this comment once in which stuck with me and when soon as she said it, I said wait a minute oh! I thought it was just a dog whistle comment but to use that term But then I realized it's not. She said income inequality was lessening, it was getting better and better until 1980. That's the dog whistle. 1980 is a code word for Reagan.

44:46 Reagan and the Republicans got in, and then the income inequality got worse and worse. And then if you look at the cycles apparently it was worsening just before The Depression which is the giveaway in 1929 income inequality or 928 It was horrible! Then The Depression came 1980 is the end of another depression that took place in the 70's In other words these folks their whole orientation I have a presentation I could write up Their whole orientation is yes, put us into an economic tailspin. Sink the economy so everybody's broke then you have no income inequality it's all evened out and I'm reminded of one of the Koch brothers I think was David had a special on him on one of these networks And he said we were almost bankrupt company in the 1970s

45:38 Everybody in the 1970s was going broke. There was no wealth whatsoever, I went through it and that's when income inequality starts to shrink. Of course it does because everybody is broke! And then 1980 comes along and says prosperity starts to grow and grow and grow, income inequality starts to grow and grow and that's just gonna always be the case so unless you want us put us into a perpetual depression everybody's broke. Right, but it's the Democrats who are saying this so you'd expect them the more socialist individuals of our society to want everyone to be depressed and broke and maybe they want that but... They do! But what they're saying is the opposite will have the opposite effect

46:27 Well, they're wrong. It didn't matter what I said he had an answer that's kind of his MO sometimes anyway you've met him but the one thing we did agree on was how awful the removal of the ordinance rules in Austin is that now people can pitch tents on the sidewalk. But here's what he added to it, although it's horrible and and it turns out that our governor Abbott tweeted out that he was going to make some laws to stop this, saying we can't have this if any Texas City thinks they can do that were gonna write legislation to stop it

47:10 The banker said, actually having homeless living on the street or the unhoused is a sign of great wealth. Of great wealth of society because we are so wealthy but let's just say California but will add Austin to the mix... So prosperous that we don't care if people have poop on in the street! Go ahead, poop what you want. Everything's great." So his theory is that that is a sign of- Great prosperity. Prosperity and decadence? Yes! Exactly which is exactly... You're so decadent that you don't give a crap if people are pooping on the street. Hey well look hey let's get in the limo Louise before this poor homeless tramp this pathetic soul poops in front us oh yes hohoho

48:02 I think it is the term that, what is the term? We're so wealthy we don't give a shit. I think that's what it comes down to you can do one on the street and he has a point Look at California. He might actually have hit one there I thought it was out of the park, as I stopped the conversation! I got to write this down, I can't believe you just said that and even though we don't like it truly shows you in a leadist very wealthy society maybe equitable to the Romans or maybe... The Weimar Republic had a lot of this stuff going on before everything went crazy

48:42 solid examples. In San Francisco the poop map and all the rest of it began after Twitter, Jack Dorsey and the folks on there's they had a bunch of porta-potties near not in front not on the street but near the Twitter headquarters in San Francisco yes and it was this Oh, we can't have these porta-potties. It just it makes a bunch of homeless surround them and they get in line and have to poop there I'd rather not see the porta-potties that's just a little bit too much for me So just get rid of those ugly things and let the homeless go somewhere else Well, the sad part of it all

49:23 is the only solutions that they'll throw out there cavalierly is, we need affordable housing which is just more money for them. I own that piece let's put some affordable housing on that yeah this is a good idea and it jacks up the rent everywhere moves people out gentrifies Yeah I can't...I cannot get a wage in it. No that's not right but I'm loving this idea of the argument that just rich decadent elites don't care if anybody's dying Louise, was that a dead man you stepped over? Is he dead?! Oh my! Is he breathing? Well, you kick him for me Bruce and find out. He kind of blew my mind with that. Yeah I'm all in on that one. That's exactly what is going on because that is what we are seeing. You got Lamborghini dealer and then there is the guy pooping...I mean come on And the wealth has gone to our heads

50:23 It's gone to our heads. Because the people who aren't super rich and don't mind this, you know feel kind of powerless yeah I'm doing okay let me just not rock the boat here i'll just gonna step over it. I am fortunate! I've got privilege and by the way most people pooping on the streets of Austin are white...just so ya know How about just during the debates, was there any Green New Deal crap? Because I got a couple clips from Europe that I want to share. I didn't pick anything up particularly...I mean they didn't really get into it. They were mostly...I don't know....I think there'll be something tonight but they didn't get into it too much. The guy who would have gotten into is Inslee because he's pretty much... Oh shoot! I just had an idea. I'm sorry. Just want to go back to the homelessness thing

51:17 Let's just take it for true that this is the incredible wealth and what were some of the terms we used? Decadence. Decadence, no the pooping on streets. Yeah decadence. You know what this calls for? This calls for a reality show you know lifting someone from the street people will love that! You know I mean like your town could be next week! Pig Malian story. What?! Yeah pig malian you know my favorite lady against somebody Just trading places, trading places. Trading places. That's it that's it all right so yeah so there wasn't a lot of green new deal is what I'm hearing. I didn't see any actually in my scan couple of climate changes maybe but nothing substantial? But if it wasn't you know because

52:05 Yeah, well it didn't get good. I mean there's still the they're still this is what gets me There's a large group of Democrats that are bitching and moaning about the fact and they didn't want to bring it up I think because they're worried about getting tossed Because they're not supposed to discuss climate change as in as a debate you don't wanna debate climate change Of course There's a bunch of Democrats that want to actually have one other debates just be about climate change And I'm thinking to myself Who what? What would that be like everybody and the Democrat Party is in on the whole idea That we're gonna all die in 12 years. And so there wouldn't be much of a debate There's just be a lot of agreement and ahead nodding exactly

52:48 Well over in the UK there's a big push once again. This is all on the backdrop of the G20 which we'll talk about, which is taking place this weekend but Sky News really stuck it to the British people with this little expose and a new term or a term that is being rejuvenated was introduced to the lexicon In the 18th century the Industrial Revolution kick-started economic growth and modern capitalism only at the cost of pumping out millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere as they years ticked on by. From iron and steel production to coal and steam power, plants and factories... And for centuries Britain was the only name in the game The world's economic engine The world's richest economy and by far the world's biggest polluter

53:41 But just look at what happens at the start of the 20th century. America finally begins to overtake us, but these ever-increasing bars tell another story. The richer we've got, the more we've polluted and it all comes back to the fact that we never put a price on waste until now because with scientists predicting a climate catastrophe and with China pumping ever more pollution into the atmosphere The greatest challenge of the next century is going to be managing this carbon debt. The debt that Britain started. All right, Britain! It's your fault first of all so we're looking at you Second climate debt I like this This could be now this is a financial instrument Now they've finally done it You could be born and the government could place a climate debt on your head

54:41 And you would have to work that off during your life. You would have to do things, to remove your climate debt." I mean... Have you heard this term? I think I might've heard it along with climate justice using that term again as a kind of a... They're fishing. It looks like they're fishing and they got these terms and they're throwing them out there see what happens may have but it would have been a while back. So they're shaming the British people into this climate debt corner and with that comes an open letter

55:23 from yes an open letter from investors with 34 trillion dollars worth of assets just ready to invest Europe is braced for a record-breaking heatwave temperatures forecast to hit 40 degrees Celsius across much of the continent For many, it's yet another sign of global warming. Now some of the world's top investors are joining calls for action. Money managers responsible for $34 trillion in assets have signed a joint letter demanding change Altogether, they account for nearly half the world's invested capital. Signatories include Legal and General Investment Management and CalPERS, California's public employees' retirement fund. But the world's two biggest asset managers are missing from the list. BlackRock and Vanguard wouldn't give specific reasons for not signing. Now the letter comes days before a G20 summit in Japan

56:20 The investors call on governments to work with them on action against climate change. They support the Paris Agreement on Global Warming, struck in 2015. It calls on governments to keep average temperature rises to less than two degrees above pre-industrial levels. Yet the world is on track for an average increase of at least three degrees by the end of this century. In Europe right now it feels a whole lot hotter that that." So the way I read this open letter is these are government, quasi-government investors. It's not BlackRock and Vanguard it's not the commercial guys they're not stupid. I'm not putting my money in that but the California Government Employees Pension Fund what was it? Yeah, PERS CalPERS That's like government almost isn't it

57:15 No, it's a big giant in if you work for the state or regional governments and lot of cities I think even the money goes into CalPERS as a it's like a retirement system right but they so they want to put your retirement money at risk in this cockamamie climate change In California and there suckers are dumb. And then let me make a point that I wanted just I don't like I don't like the Bill Gates thing where you make a bunch of rich guys pledge half their wealth. The Warren Buffett Pledge? The Warren Buffett Pledge, this is... You know, I don't like-I never liked-I really disliked Grover Norquist

58:00 And he had this piece of paper, he made Republicans conservative side during I think it was some during Bush's administration. It was a tax pledge that you never raise taxes and you write this, do sign this pledge? I don't like people signing these pledges. I don't like organizations signing them. Why are you doing it? Don't you have control over your own future? Why would I be shamed in the same worth of a wish, worth 10 billion and i'm not gonna be shamed into signing away 5 billion of this. Oh that's easy one

58:39 It's dumb. Well, no but this has nothing to do with smarts. First of all I didn't realize that for example I remember when Ted Turner pledged like you know a billion dollars to some university or something like that and then he just reneged if you get worth 10 billion dollars you can sign anything you want and just say screw you don't do it and which but then again that's not what's happening that what's happening with those guys is different you know very wealthy people I mean really wealthy people. I know very wealthy people and people with so much wealth who can and have purchased anything they want any kind of love but they can't get respect from the people, so it's a virtue signal they want to be liked please

59:25 Please like me. I'm not gonna argue and I don't care how much money I have to pledge just like me, I don't want people look at me sideways please like me yeah I understand that's probably exactly what it is but the plan does not my point My point is that nobody should be signing pledges Like this and especially government employees who are site who signed that Grover Norquist thing if I got a representative working for me and sees the state senator or whatever. I want him to be beholding to the public that voted him in, i don't want him being beholden to some guy Grover Norquist! I think it's like what are you pledging this guy for? You're working for ME! Right... no argument there

1:00:16 Final thing on the New York banker, he has read some article which he sent to me which I haven't read yet about grid calculations and it turns out that you really don't need that much data. gas to pick up the slack on wind and solar, there's all these grid calculations. And it turns out it really works and you don't need... I'm like that sounds like bullcrap! And he just was going on and on and then we got into an argument He said well as you know DC power is much more efficient to transmit. I'm like stop what? Now, please tell me that's wrong. I mean...I just can't! No DC power is not more efficient to transmit over lines Is it? DC power is more efficient in a lot of things For sure yeah In your house I don't know if long-range transmission is one of them I don't believe it is No they can be That's what Tesla and Edison fought about

1:01:17 Yes, and it had to do with transmission I believe at the end of the day. Yeah, yeah, I'll get this. I'll send you that article we got we got a deconstruct this because all of a sudden he's all in on wind and solar works like And you know That means someone else in the elite circles is thinking it He's never gonna take me out to dinner after he hears this I sure you will. Just to convince you, you're wrong! Wrong again Curry and with that i would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the climate debt John C Dvorak Thank You my amigos

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1:02:47 I guess i'd made a comment that Robert De Niro in that Trump hate video looked like something the cat had puked up, like a hairball. Yes he made it he made a piece of art with look like a giant cat just puked out Robert de niro and And we kind of liked it. It had something to it. It was a good piece. Cheap laugh! We got cheap laughs. Now, I'm looking by the way...I'm looking back at some art for the newsletter and I realized that we haven't heard from Thorin one of our most prolific artists. Yes you're right. For I think he's overboard? Could be could be

1:03:28 I'll tell you something. I'm gonna start finding, i'm going to see other ones that I've noticed that just kind of went overboard or they're stopped producing or they just gave up. So Thorin had a lot of hits and it was like but he just stopped. I was out in the front yard yesterday and my neighbor Steve comes over. Now, as you know we moved into this beautiful little area small little cul-de-sac and I'm not walking around at any for any reason in Austin going yeah! I got a podcast you should listen You know it's like... I don't know what people are thinking Yeah but we plan to live here for a long time and i want people to.. If you listen if you listened to our show for 15 minutes

1:04:12 You know, some people may get the wrong impression. So I'd never mention anything Steve comes over he says hey how was the honeymoon? Steve's a Vietnam vet He's uh...I think he's probably around 70 in his seventies retired and that was your Honeymoon yeah it's great right well you know i gotta tell you what I'm a douchebag What?! Says yeah I'm a douchebag! I've been listening to your show And I'm like, uh okay. He says, I really like it! He says, I don't like Trump. Says, I want America to win so a lot of people hate Trump but that was funny you guys are good Wow how about that? Wow the next-door neighbor yeah thank goodness

1:04:58 Because Steve, I think Steve's kind of... Is he the cop or is he the guy growing pot? Yes to all of those. No, the cops on me- I haven't approached a cop yet She's cool There's an Austin couple for you A police officer and heavy metal drummer It doesn't get much better than that Anyway So they're heavy metal drummers The guy who came up to ya? No! Steve is the veteran He's the Vietnam vet from the other side Oh yes, she's right next door neighbor I'm sorry Is he a next door neighbor? Yeah, he's on the other side. Wait... wait you got a cop and heavy metal drummer they're living together?! Yes! That's the couple on one side Oh this is what confused me yeah no that that's one side and the other side is uh the he lives with not his partner but his friend and that's also a vet He's a Iraq war vet so I think they just share the house

1:05:52 But everything about Steve didn't tell me that he was gonna, you know hear anything about Trump and like it. So I just don't mention these things to people! Oh so he's a old unreconstructed hippie Democrat? Possibly yeah but not an anti- I mean he went to war for us he served the country so he's not that much of a hippie Democrat but I don't know if he is anything other than my neighbor nice guy then he said douchebag now Steve You're the emergency contact for anything happening here. You're not a douchebag ever there you go Welcome to the show sweet tail yes, thank you Can you talk just a split second longer so I can go get the paperwork? Okay? Yes And I'm kind of all The banker didn't have that much else to say but

1:06:52 Yeah, yeah peppery. That's all I can remember peppery is what it was Hey, I came to the meeting today with all my stuff in order you know Pros can fill alright here we go So let's go with our number one guy today sir not a sir animus Oh, he's back! Dog... Dogpatch. Yeah well he's every month that comes in. Seronimous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia everybody. Lower Slobovia $1200 and two. What? $1202. This is... Holy crap now again we have no idea what the meaning is of this did you send a note with it? Of course. Okay alright. We love his notes.

1:07:41 Thank you to and the many producers that make this show the best podcast in the universe. By mailing rather than emailing, I'm avoiding AI flagging this statement as hate speech. After all it claims all other podcasts are inferior." Yeah that is hate speech its true! It's hate speech...it's true On a recent show, you discussed offering naming rights for Adam's new studio. Okay here we go and this is what he's about this time. We want to give you a lecture on it. Here we go! Naming rights are a complicated matter Can the name be offensive? Can it be commercial sponsored by a firm with its baggage How long does it continue A show, a week, a month, a quarter What if two sponsors went the same show for their anniversary birthday or other special day

1:08:34 What is the minimum price for naming? Should it be more than a nighting, more or less an executive producership?" After reflecting on these issues and on Adams commiserating that dogs dog waste homelessness scooters and millennials drove him from the town center. Naming rights seems superfluous It sounds like The End of Austin All right so this is now the Lower Slobovia studio That's what I'm naming it from now on, Lower Slobovia. I think we kind of nixed the whole idea of the naming rights It was a fun thought for a moment but i see nothing but hurdles and traps and really not interested yeah his point is well made Let's use the word its problematic Problematic indeed We want people to value what we do and send us value for that not for some advertising hustle

1:09:35 We'd rather be poor. I would at least, I can't speak for you. Yeah well Anonymous comes in next at 666 dot 66 so we actually have two anonymouses in a row anonymous Viking of the Pacific Northwest I don't remember that. This together with my January 31st, 2018 donation of 350 completes my knighthood. I want to be known as the Viking of the Pacific Northwest. The Vorak's excellent contrasting of Amy Goodman's domestic violence report with public records and Adam's nuptials as well as double 33 followers on no agenda social make me realize it is time for a knighthood. I like cider and Svid.

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1:13:29 Another meetup in my protectorate is long overdue, so I'm organizing one. The details who all producers slaves donors boners and most assuredly the esteemed assemblage of the roundtable where Phantom Canyon Brew Pub Colorado Springs Colorado when July 19th 2019 6 to 9 p.m Mutton unlikely made probable further information at no agenda meetups calm napping for humanity now more than ever M. Andrew Jones, Baron of America's Mountain out I like the shorthand it's on the list we will add it to our meetup rundown and thank you for your courage and for your support Did he want a karma? No, okay. Yeah, I'll give him one You've got karma That will be a meetup

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1:15:31 Before we move on I've been meaning to ask you something for several weeks keep forgetting finally wrote it down in my show prep do you by any chance have a video of our vows from the wedding as you posited at the time Yeah, somewhere. You have a... because you told me you had the full ceremony I do Could you please get that to us? Okay Thank you I was worried because I heard that you were taking pictures But you got home and all you had was a whole bunch of videos of like a second Because you'd left it on the video setting And I was worried that maybe just had one picture of the ceremony and no video Uh..I will go look

1:16:24 I took the whole video. I've done this before, a complete video takes 20 minutes or whatever it was... I don't mind doing it and I do have it and whether I don't know about the audibility of the vowels but most should be in there because it's pretty quiet. Well thank you! It is appreciated Yeah, I should put that aside What happens? I have this problem cause when certain things happen I just start collecting stuff, so I collect photos. I've never noticed this! Really? And so you end up with these two terabytes of photos and they're just like all these photos and they're not catalogued that's the real problem You know what you need a dead man switch when you keel over it's all done just terabytes of shit gets released

1:17:14 Just shoot it all out into the ether. Put it all on IFPS so its there forever, can never go away and be fantastic! Yeah? It'd be beautiful So every once in a while I delve into the thing...into the pile. It's like jumping to a pile And then holy wow! Wow that was a great photo Anyway Okay I'll get back on that stick before it gets erased accidentally A couple of things so good news in the queens it looks like that nutcase.

1:17:56 And she is going to, you know do whatever what they do in these other towns. They're gonna crack down on the police and make sure that they are nicer and let people poop in the streets... Who cares about... Who are you talking about? Or shoplifting. Kaban! That woman the justice woman and she's apparently won and it's from winning here played. Caban wins. In New York City, Tiffany Caban appears poised for victory in the Queens District Attorney race. Caban a 31 year old queer Latina public defender would become the first woman to hold the post she ran on ending cash bail stopping the prosecution of low-level offenses decriminalizing sex work and going after bad landlords cops and immigration and customs enforcement

1:18:42 Tiffany Caban claimed victory last night in Queens. Well, this is interesting she is one of the soul sisters I mean the Soros sister's I should say And I learned this from my buddy Mo that Soros in particular I know there he is the big evil Soros But it's not a secret that he has sponsoring black female district attorneys all over the country and I'm not quite sure why Other than social justice seems to be written all over them. I think he also helped get the Chicago DA in place well People and they're not just her or black district attorneys, but there's a bunch of other ones There are all these Justice style means the Seattle's got one we have one in San Francisco Kamala Harris actually comes from that whole school also a Soros sister and Unless you're doing it too

1:19:42 to lower the price of real estate in an area, there's really no other reason that I can think of. Because real estate prices in Queens which is a huge place... Mm-hmm Is going up maybe it's time to reverse the trend and turn the Queens into a shithole Well, I guess my point is That's what's gonna happen by the way It's broader than that That's my point It's like we'd may be turning a lot of places into a shit hole Well, but it seems like these DA's are chosen and sponsored for their you know obvious social justice warrior qualities. Yes absolutely It's a great experiment Soros is how old is Soros? He's like 80 something yeah well being a lizard he'll probably go to be about 110 He's gonna look so good when he finally changes his skin

1:20:38 Once he sheds that old crusty version. So she's in, it looks like. I mean it is still close because Katz is the one who should have won the borough president but I think these are also rigged somehow Yeah whenever you hear the name Soros you can kind of think so yeah what they need is they need some of that rigging for the women over in the EU You know? It's...I think they try again to to vote on their new leader of the Starfleet Command, to replace Junker the Drunker.

1:21:14 in the EU Commission. And so it's all about gender balance now, oh yeah you think it is just here in America that we have all this crazy stuff going on? No, gender balance thats what they're looking for The European Union has a gender gap problem None of its three most powerful institutions have ever been led by women including the commission council of national leaders and the European Central Bank but now those posts plus the top diplomat job are up for grabs providing an opportunity to break up the boys club. I think it's high time we never had a female commission president, we're totally lacking gender equality even in the European Parliament if we want to represent Europeans we cannot ignore half of the population of the European Union

1:22:00 And it seems the boys are at least making the right noise. Oh, I love them! I love how this report... Instead of men oh no the boys club the boy's really can you imagine if that report was reverse? I mean I hate doing that but jeez I mean come on We cannot ignore half of the population of the European Union and it seems the boys are at least making the right noises Gender balance means at least two women. It's important for me to have a gender balance in these nominations, that we have two men and two women." For Europe's most powerful position – that of the Commission President currently held by Jean-Claude Juncker Denmark's Margaret Vestager is in the mix

1:22:46 Currently, she's the bloc's top competition official and has made a name for herself for taking on the likes of Google and Apple. Other candidates include head of the World Bank Cristalino Georgieva and Spanish economy minister Nadia Calvino but most names being touted are men as the leadership reflects domestic politics across the bloc despite growing pressure for gender diversity Women dominate the make-up of most EU institutions. Of the bloc's 28 state leaders, just four are women and the gap is particularly glaring at the ECB where just two women sit on its 25 member council Also fixing the gender gap is one factor in many in the race Any deals must balance interests of states and parliament big countries and small Europe's north south east west

1:23:30 political parties. EU institutions are also not only more male than the electorate, they're whiter too! Minorities make up a tenth of the EU population but just 5% of incoming lawmakers." Oh it's gonna be so fun to watch this I think that Margarete for Strata she's interesting and she would work And now it's the United States all she's into. One of the four women leaders in the European Union is Angela Merkel, second time now she's got to shakes while standing in public did you see this video? No I did not! So what happened a week ago the first time and she was in Ukraine

1:24:15 She started shaking uncontrollably and it was oh no, she was dehydrated. Okay now she's on stage then starts happening again one of her Minions walks up hands her a glass of water She reaches out because you see someone coming she goes to grab says no No, I know I guess you didn't want to seem weak or something But yeah And she just the whole trembling with their legs the same thing and so don't know just nothing to see here. No problem It's a diabetic thing to some things going on and you know why can't she just be honest it's not dehydration all the time. And if it's dehydrated and you refuse that water that someone brings to you, it was embarrassing maybe she's got two DTs

1:25:04 What's the DTs? That's an old phrase. A few people out there know what I meant. Delirium tremens that you have when you're coming if your alcohol addict or even a heroin addict would be DTS. Oh, so she's maybe some sort of it she's addicted to it. She's an alcoholic or drug addict and she's trying to get off it and yeah, because you got this shakes and she seen mice coming out of the walls and God knows what else is going on. It doesn't sound good So there's a lot of technology stuff we can talk about. Oh, maybe you would just do this E. Gene Carroll for a moment in the Trump rotation department? Yeah if you want... Yeah why not it was kind of funny so E. Gene Carroll is promoting a book that's the only way you can see it and CNN fell for it

1:26:01 She has written about her sexual trysts, I believe that's a main subject of her book. You might as well be Will Chamberlain she makes it sound like she had affairs or either you had affairs with everybody or... ...she was hit on by pretty much every major person you've ever heard in your life Yes, and so the headline is I was raped by Trump But that's not her words in fact she doesn't even like the word rape She thinks it has different connotations. I think she's a pathological liar She may be a very good writer but she's definitely just full of it And I think that this may have been because any doubt about that? I think she may have had her own fantasy

1:26:44 And whether it happened or whether she wrote about it, but she's promoting a book and they all fell for it Everybody has CNN number one on every single show what they want to believe these things They really do is so wanted just please give it to me. And of course that did not end well for Anderson Cooper You don't feel like a victim I was now thrown out on the ground and ravished which I The word rape carries... Even that, even saying I was not thrown on the ground and ravished. Ravishing is not the same as being brutally raped or raped. Ravishing is the way I understand it. The word is more a term of extreme passion but you know just to show you right off the bat this woman is not thinking what Anderson Cooper's thinking You don't feel like a victim? I was not thrown on the ground and ravished which

1:27:31 The word rape carries so many sexual connotations. This was not, this was not sexual for it just it hurt It just what...it just you know I think most people think of raping as a What Pooper's trying to say is it supposed to hurt don't you know that? Just what..just You know but I think most people think of raping as a violent assault and its not a sexual thing I think most people think of rape as being sexy Let's take a short break.

1:28:17 We've got a ticket quick break if you can stick around we'll talk more on the other side. You're fascinating to talk to oh My god And you can just hear the control room flipping out here I'll tell you exactly where they start freaking out probably it is a violent assault It's not I think most people say the rape as being sexy Now okay, we haven't done this for a while But I am going to give you a clip of the day for that But it gets better it gets better listen like it can't get yeah. Yeah does the

1:29:05 This is, here she is on the Joy Reid show basically telling her story. So he goes like this towards the dressing room and the odd thing is that the dressing room door was open in Bergdorf's as you know and on the counter were these fancy lingerie boxes they used to have back in the 90s so I walked right in front of him and he shut the door and banged right against the wall So immediately upon walking into that dresser, he attacked you? Right against the wall. Many people and you should have been included in this thought this sounded vaguely familiar...this scenario..this plot And if you are a Law & Order fan special victims unit You might have thought this Did anyone want to role-play a rape with you in a public place

1:28:17 We've got a ticket quick break if you can stick around we'll talk more on the other side. You're fascinating to talk to oh My god And you can just hear the control room flipping out here I'll tell you exactly where they start freaking out probably it is a violent assault It's not I think most people say the rape as being sexy Now okay, we haven't done this for a while But I am going to give you a clip of the day for that But it gets better it gets better listen like it can't get yeah. Yeah does the

1:29:05 This is, here she is on the Joy Reid show basically telling her story. So he goes like this towards the dressing room and the odd thing is that the dressing room door was open in Bergdorf's as you know and on the counter were these fancy lingerie boxes they used to have back in the 90s so I walked right in front of him and he shut the door and banged right against the wall So immediately upon walking into that dresser, he attacked you? Right against the wall. Many people and you should have been included in this thought this sounded vaguely familiar...this scenario..this plot And if you are a Law & Order fan special victims unit You might have thought this Did anyone want to role-play a rape with you in a public place

1:29:56 Yes, there was one a bit plain and it was not her fantasy. It was mine okay? Yeah Well play took place in the dressing room of Bergdorf's while she was trying on lingerie I would burst in all along Whoa She's written for a lot of TV stuff so I wonder if if that just kind of crept in But at some point, some writers seem to lose contact with reality. And they're writing and I mean Woody Allen has done a couple of movies about this phenomenon and it's like the player the people the stories that you write about because you think they actually happened because there is still graphic.

1:30:43 I thought when i first read her piece that everyone was all jacked up about the excerpt part of her book and put it in vanity. Yeah, the whole piece is just filled with how she's having sex when she's eight years old and just all kinds of stuff. Everybody wants to have her... She's the hottest thing ever. It was pretty funny. And if you listen to the interview with Anderson, You hear a kind of almost borderline craziness. It's kind of exuding. Yeah, you're fascinating to talk to your sexuality it's in your DNA isn't it? I think rape is sex! It's great sexy but this like most people think rape is sexy okay lady alrighty and it's just it's...

1:31:39 No, that's our media. Anything to bring Trump down! Anything to bring him down we'll bring him down with another rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape Go to trumprotation.com if you'd like to see what could possibly be next on the menu as we spin the wheel of accusations It's all in there That's true I have not been able to add a new one for probably three four five months I think it's solid right now and i've numbered them so they just go by the number There's a number of technology things going on. There was a hearing which was underplayed, downplayed, was not really promoted I found out about it just by someone mentioned it on noagendasocial.com while it was taking place This is the Senate had a what are they called? Technology companies and algorithms senate hearing

1:32:38 which was C-SPAN 3, so not even available for most people. Then we also had... I'm going to see if I can find an order here We had the Project Veritas Google Insider Maybe we'll start... well actually maybe we'll start with some... That was a good one. Yeah, and I do have some comments about that but i'd like to start with something that I came across which gives you pretty good idea of how Google specifically Google really works in Portland Oregon is has signed up to google's

1:33:17 Sidewalk labs project we may have talked about this in the past maybe but the idea is they they take a city or a portion of the city and They track everything everybody. Oh, it's all connected over you We talked about this years ago I think Toronto is their first target that yeah, but now it's Portland Yeah and And the idea is there selling this service? The Google sidewalk labs and in that is a program called replica, and they use it for city planners so you can understand how traffic flows and other things for planning. For planning in the city but I cut this video about four minutes to cut down under two

1:34:03 It's if you listen to this in the context of what they're doing with us all the time and how they track what we do it becomes a little clear as to exactly how beautiful this business model of Google's is. And, as I've always said It always comes down to location. That is the keyhole system that they acquired early on when they were funded by Inc, QTel, CIA's venture capital firm This was very intentional this is a true surveillance system. The whole company is built around your location and when you add any little thing to your location, you're able to do quite a lot and just listen to how they speak about this in the context of the Sidewalk Labs project and just think about it in the context of advertising to you or any kind of behavioral modification which is what advertising is.

1:34:56 a replica activity table, a database representing all the trips and activities by people in an area. And Explorer – an easy-to-use interface for querying the data and creating maps and charts First, let's look at how a replica activity table is created. We use cell phone location data covering a small percentage of the population to learn about travel patterns and create a travel behavior model – basically a set of rules that represent how a person makes choices on where when why and how to travel The location data is collected by third-party mobile apps with all identifying information, like names and phone numbers removed. Now mind you for the Sidewalk Labs project they remove all that information but Google has it. Separately we use aggregate census information and other sources to create what planners call a synthetic population this is a virtual population that is statistically representative of the real population

1:35:58 If 300 people live on your block, you'll find 300 people living on your block in replica. But you won't be able to identify any individual We then give each person in the virtual population a travel behavior model based on where they live, work and some other factors. Finally we use computer simulation to generate a week of trips and activities for each person Let's dive in an take a look at one person in the virtual population as an example

1:36:42 Now remember, this is now one person. It's a replica of you they know it's you they have your name to have your email your phone your address and they know who you are. A replica activity table we can see this person isn't a household of one adult and two kids she lives in the suburbs and owns a car We can see in the data that she drives to work downtown Leaving home around 8 a.m.. Stopping off at a coffee shop on the way in the afternoon She leaves work at 4 p.m.. And heads to the grocery store sweet and sweet gig she gets home at 5 a replica activity table is made up of millions of virtual people each with their own home work or school and

1:37:23 and a full week of trips and activities. These movements are faithful to real world activities, but not traceable to actual people or specific trips." So they just have to keep saying that so you're not creeped out as a city planner But this is exactly what Google does for their advertising clients for anyone who wants to do business with Google That's what they do They have a replica of you This folds into the first and only piece that I want to play from this Senate hearing and the guy I have is Tristan or Tristan, Tristan Harris. He is from the Center for Humane Technology. I haven't looked him up but okay think tank some something in there...I don't know who's funding it

1:38:08 But he talks about the concept of persuasive technology and after you've heard what you just did about how Google puts it all together, it gives good context for him explaining what is... What Google's business model is and how they're using it. And if it's good or not? Everything you said It sad to me because it's happening not by accident but by design because the business model is to keep people engaged. Which in other words, this hearing is about persuasive technology And persuasion is about an invisible asymmetry of power. When I was a kid, I was a magician and magic teaches you that you can have asymmetric power without the other person realizing it You can masquerade to have asymmetric power while looking like you have an equal relationship. You say pick any card While meanwhile, you know exactly how to get that person to pick the card that you want

1:37:23 and a full week of trips and activities. These movements are faithful to real world activities, but not traceable to actual people or specific trips." So they just have to keep saying that so you're not creeped out as a city planner But this is exactly what Google does for their advertising clients for anyone who wants to do business with Google That's what they do They have a replica of you This folds into the first and only piece that I want to play from this Senate hearing and the guy I have is Tristan or Tristan, Tristan Harris. He is from the Center for Humane Technology. I haven't looked him up but okay think tank some something in there...I don't know who's funding it

1:38:08 But he talks about the concept of persuasive technology and after you've heard what you just did about how Google puts it all together, it gives good context for him explaining what is... What Google's business model is and how they're using it. And if it's good or not? Everything you said It sad to me because it's happening not by accident but by design because the business model is to keep people engaged. Which in other words, this hearing is about persuasive technology And persuasion is about an invisible asymmetry of power. When I was a kid, I was a magician and magic teaches you that you can have asymmetric power without the other person realizing it You can masquerade to have asymmetric power while looking like you have an equal relationship. You say pick any card While meanwhile, you know exactly how to get that person to pick the card that you want

1:39:01 And essentially what we're experiencing with technology is an increasing asymmetry of power that's been masquerading itself as a equal or contractual relationship where the responsibility is on us. I like that and by the way feel free to jump in whenever you want John, I'd like what he said... It's really observa- it is very good, yeah. It's a good observation Yeah because we all think it's fair and an equal relationship that we have with these companies but its not In the race for attention because there only so much attention companies have to get more of it by being more aggressive I call it the race at bottom of brain stem So it starts with techniques like pull to refresh So you pull to refresh your news feed that operates like slot machine has same kind addictive qualities That keep people in Las Vegas hooked

1:39:45 to the slot machine. Other examples are removing stopping cues, so if I take the bottom out of this glass and I keep refilling the water or the wine you won't know when to stop drinking. So that's what happens with infinitely scrolling feeds we naturally remove the stopping cues and this is what keeps people scrolling but the race for attention has to get more and more aggressive and so it's not enough just to get your behavior and predict what will take your behavior We have to predict how to keep you hooked in a different way. And so it crawled deeper down the brainstem into our social validation, that was the introduction of likes and followers How many followers do I have? It was much cheaper instead of getting your attention to get you addicted from other people

1:40:26 And this has created the kind of mass narcissism and mass cultural thing that's happening with young people, especially today. Do you see? He's nailing it! So we had that part... We tapped into your narcissistic side which is still going on because you can have your video anywhere you want it You can have it on YouTube but the narcissist in you says well if I get kicked off YouTube then I might as well be dead Because no one's watching like everyone deserves to be a superstar Andy Warhol was right in the race for attention It's not enough just to get people addicted to attention and the race has to migrate AI Who can build a better predictive model of your behavior? And so if you give an example of YouTube, so there you are You're about to hit play on a YouTube video and you hit play and then you think you're gonna watch this one video and then you wake up two hours later and say oh my god what just happened and The answer is because you had a supercomputer pointed at your brain.

1:41:18 And at the moment you hit play, it wakes up an avatar voodoo doll like version of you inside a Google server. And that avatar based on all the clicks and likes and everything you've ever made those are like your hair clippings and toenail clippings and nail filings that make the avatar look and act more and more like you so that inside of a Google server they can simulate more and more possibilities if I prick you with this video or if I prick you with this video how long would you stay? The business model is simply what maximizes watch time This leads to the kind of algorithmic extremism that you've pointed out. And this is what's caused 70% of YouTube traffic now be driven by recommendations, not by human choice

1:40:26 And this has created the kind of mass narcissism and mass cultural thing that's happening with young people, especially today. Do you see? He's nailing it! So we had that part... We tapped into your narcissistic side which is still going on because you can have your video anywhere you want it You can have it on YouTube but the narcissist in you says well if I get kicked off YouTube then I might as well be dead Because no one's watching like everyone deserves to be a superstar Andy Warhol was right in the race for attention It's not enough just to get people addicted to attention and the race has to migrate AI Who can build a better predictive model of your behavior? And so if you give an example of YouTube, so there you are You're about to hit play on a YouTube video and you hit play and then you think you're gonna watch this one video and then you wake up two hours later and say oh my god what just happened and The answer is because you had a supercomputer pointed at your brain.

1:41:18 And at the moment you hit play, it wakes up an avatar voodoo doll like version of you inside a Google server. And that avatar based on all the clicks and likes and everything you've ever made those are like your hair clippings and toenail clippings and nail filings that make the avatar look and act more and more like you so that inside of a Google server they can simulate more and more possibilities if I prick you with this video or if I prick you with this video how long would you stay? The business model is simply what maximizes watch time This leads to the kind of algorithmic extremism that you've pointed out. And this is what's caused 70% of YouTube traffic now be driven by recommendations, not by human choice

1:41:55 But by the machines and this is where it gets interesting because that they've obviously figured this out the recommendations if you see this deep platforming stuff That's going on. It's all about taking people off Recommendations not being recommended because what they don't really know how to do yet is to truly modify your behavior If you're a conservative and you're looking for conservative talk in conservative outrage You're going to be drawn to it. That's just how the system works They have no way to push you towards anything else, which is probably why they need to quarantine this type of stuff and it's a race between Facebook's Voodoo doll where you flick your finger can they predict what to show you next and Google's we saw and these are abstract metaphors that apply to the whole tech industry or it's a race between who can better predict your behavior and

1:42:40 Facebook has something called loyalty prediction where they can actually predict to an advertiser when you're about to become disloyal To a brand so if you're a mother and you take Pampers diapers, they can tell Pampers Hey This user is about to become disloyal to this brand So in other words they can predict things about us that we don't know about our own selves. I were you aware of this this capability? Oh Never heard of this before that's new to me, and if that's true. That's very powerful stuff And I would be curious to know how they do it but and that's a new level of asymmetric power And we have a name for this asymmetric relationship, which is a fiduciary relationship or duty of care relationship. The same standard we apply to doctors, priests and lawyers. Imagine a world in which priests only make their money by selling access to the confession booths to someone else except in this case Facebook listens to 2 billion people's confessions has a super computer next them and it calculating and predicting confession you're going to make before you know your gonna make them and that what causing all these havoc

1:43:42 This affects everyone, even if you don't use these products. You still send your kids to a school where other people believing that anti-vaccine conspiracy theories causes impact for your life or other people voting in your elections and when Marc Andreessen said software is going to eat the world What he meant by that was that software can do every part of society more efficiently than non-software. Right? Because it's just adding efficiencies, and so we're going to allow software to eat up our elections We're gonna allow it to eat up our media our taxi or transportation And the problem was that software was eating the world without taking responsibility for it. We used to have rules and standards around Saturday morning cartoons, and when YouTube gobbles up that part of society it just takes away all of those protections." So that's a long backrounder but I think it really explains extremely well what these companies are doing and then truly is about business for them. And I'm just going to push back a little bit again with the most recent

1:44:40 removal of videos, deplatforming, quarantining of the Donald subreddit on Reddit. All these things people are so convinced that these companies are only trying to kill conservative thinking and conservative thought you're missing the big picture in that big picture still comes down to money it's all about that they do if If conservatism is seen as toxic, then it's gotta go. But they have no way to change your direction... not yet at least! They have not algorithms their AI can amplify what you like but it can't change your behavior yet they're really trying to get that and they're not sincere about going after hate. They really aren't here's proof. There was a startling revelation in the House Homeland Security Committee hearing

1:45:30 Democratic Congressman Max Rose of New York got executives from Facebook, Google and Twitter to admit that none of them have full-time employees to monitor terrorist propaganda and hate speech. You all cannot get your act together enough to dedicate enough resources to put full time staff under a building dealing with this problem I think it speaks to the ways in which we're addressing this with this technocratic libertarian elitism. And all the while, people are being killed." Now that came during a discussion about the tech company's failure to take down live video of the March mosque attacks in New Zealand. So they're not really sincere about it?

1:46:18 They just don't really care. They only care about what advertisers are interested in and it definitely goes for Google with their search results they don't want people turned off and pissed off and turned away but for some reason they've convinced everybody that they're out to get you And it's kind of pissing me off, certainly from no agenda people. You should know better and then you get this Project Veritas who looks like the biggest red herring in the world with a whistleblower who is on a vocoder? Are you kidding me?! That's not a whistleblower! That's a dude in the dark with a vocoder We don't know who this person is we don't have a name that's chicken shit

1:47:00 and dramatic music, and facts that you can interpret any way you want. Right after Donald Trump won the election in 2016 the company did a complete 180 in what they thought was important before they felt self-expression and giving everyone a voice was important but now they're like hey there's a lot of hate and because if there's a lot of hate misogyny and racism that's your reason why Donald Trump got elected And so we need to fix that. We need to start policing our users because we don't like to have an outcome like that, and we don't want to have an outcome like that happen again! So the things that changed was that in TJFs they started talking about the need to combat hate and racism online and also at YouTube they had the same talks by the CEO Susan

1:47:52 And they talked about combating that and getting rid of unfairness. So slowly, they started introducing the concept of machine learning fairness. Which somehow people have misconstrued this with the machine learning is to take away all the bad talk. But no, it's not! They're trying to equalize the options that they present so they can move people towards a more advertiser-friendly area of their service But you can interpret it any way you want. Fairness is a dog whistle, it does not mean what you think that means and you have to apply double-think in order to understand what they're really saying

1:48:39 What they're really saying about fairness is that they have to manipulate their search results so it gives them the political agenda That they want. I don't know about you John, but I just disagree there's no evidence that this is only about their political agenda It's people saying that without any proof with some again poorly edited I won't say deceptive, but the video of the woman who apparently says we wanted to fix it or didn't want the Trump problem in 2020. You can interpret this in many ways you can say we didn't want the Russian collusion and we didn't want fake news but this insider, the vocoder insider chicken shit

1:49:25 I mean if you really want to do something step out there let's tell us who you really are. No it's all, oh you have to be afraid because it's all for their political agenda bullshit this is about money and so they have to rebias their algorithms so that they can get their agenda across You know to unpack everything that she saying saying that she wants to be...she wants the algorithm to be fair Hand-picked representative of that community means that what she's trying to do is she's trying to sell you a product. That is not objectionable What she's trying to do is she's trying to sell product That's not objective it doesn't represent the will of its users but instead represents the will of a group of people making decisions behind the shadows so this insider actually Flubbed and the truth came out did you hear it?

1:50:17 No. Means that what she's trying to do is she's trying to sell you a product that is not objectionable, uh... What she's trying to do is she's trying to sell a product that's not objective Ah! No! You were right the first time She's trying to sell a product that is not objectionable He said it Yeah, that's what it is. That's what it is It's what is not objectionable and here's an example wait a minute why did he even bother correcting it? To objective What does objective mean you want to sense you know wants to sell you a product thats subjective What does that mean it makes less sense when he fixed it to me? It sounded like someone doing a retake And it was supposed to be edited out That's what it sounded like to me let me just pick that up again Let me do it over You know I mean yeah pick it up

1:51:07 So here's the here's the here's an example of this machine learning or machine fairness Project Veritas also received a trove of confidential documents from within Google This document is about algorithmic unfairness. It reads, quote for example Imagine that a Google image query for CEOs shows predominantly men Even if it were a factually accurate representation of the world it would be algorithmic unfairness unquote Understand what's wrong They want they want to show as many CEOs as possible

1:51:49 So, I'm just not buying this entire... Look, tech is arrogant. This is all tech arrogance every single bit of it but they've been caught with their pants down because they can't change the behavior of these people towards something that's not objectionable That's what they're trying to do so they have to quarantine it cut it off get rid of it and its misread and this a big problem being misread by people who believe there being attacked in silence And they're moving away. I've seen this movie before, you've seen it too John. You get enough people and they start moving to other things and it will happen. They are losing market share every single day. My hope is that they lose it towards a federated approach

1:52:40 Reddit clone already which works with the Federation completely federated There's new alternatives to YouTube, but we've talked about earlier bit shoot etc. It is some you know these brands are starting to garner a little bit of a little bit of Attraction and people will move over to those systems and they're afraid of that too I think they're in a rock-and-a-hard place and Here's the big secret. The internet is a network, you can do whatever you want on it You don't need them How many people actually voted for someone differently because of Google searches? Come on now Probably none Thank you None

1:53:23 And you know, so what is the point of screaming and yelling that your conservative YouTube video or your channel was taken down? Are you there to convince people to vote for a conservative? Is that your job? You think that's really working. You think that the sarcastic YouTube videos that people make which are funny and it's great and conservatives love it! You think that makes a difference? Oh, you can do that on Bitchute and have just as much fun. Everybody's some kind of social justice warrior these days and the conservative right is no better than the socialist left. And meanwhile the guys in the middle are just struggling to make the dollars come their way." Yeah, that's why makeup videos are the real winner! Yes they are pretty good actually. They're quite well yes... Do you watch those a lot?

1:54:18 I usually watch them just to find the good ones to send to you. It's so appreciated, yeah! So be on the lookout for this arrogance it's everywhere but to just be out there fighting and yelling and screaming and saying that they're trying to silence us no they're not... They're just trying to modify your behavior and get the good at it and remove controversy I know also remove people who advertise within their own Broadcast because it's taking money away from them the way they see it. You know, YouTube reminds me of MTV MTV Is was the star right? It was MTV is the star of the show. It's the channel. It's the brand It's the big M little TV. It's the moon man. I want my MTV They did not want VJS to be stars

1:55:15 They in fact that's why they you saw so many of them. They rotated them out all the time What you getting popular get the fuck out? Goodbye alright next what you want more money, okay? Goodbye goodbye goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye We they want to be the star YouTube is the star They don't want other stars and their right it's annoying You got a pander to him They don't want it. Yeah, and they get leverage And yeah and they make billions of dollars off of the makeup videos That's what I want you to watch makeup videos and cat videos and your kids being cute that's what they want Yeah, and everything else is just delusional Delusional I like Steven Crowder he's funny. You know and oh sure yes there's a document where the Google guy says hey, you know this Shapiro in

1:56:05 Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson, they're Nazis! That's my favorite. Yeah yeah okay and then what if you really read the document? What they say is we should remove them from the recommendation system that's the only thing that's of importance in that secret Google group is there saying we don't want them to be recommended no of course you know because that could actually screw up your business That he calls them or you know path to Nazis or whatever fine Yes, yeah that was pretty funny especially Peterson. Yeah You know professor of Long lectures long lectures well it's always funny to call her own baby I'm not so sure It's always funny to call an Orthodox Jew a Nazi. I mean I see the humor in it. It is very funny Something good about it there really is

1:57:04 So calm down everybody and go find other places. Go somewhere else, it is not your job. Adam loves by the way getting these notes so just keep writing to him I'm just saying that get your panties out of the bunch that they're in and stop screaming on Twitter, unfair! Unfair! In this case I just got to agree with the leftists who are saying it's a private company that can do what they want. How hypnotized we become to believe that we cannot live without the Google? Oh you can't live without it. You can live without all this stuff, you can live without YouTube and we don't run our podcast on anything but our own system. Correct

1:57:56 Which is fast, people have to be reminded of that. You don't go... I mean you can find it all over the place because people can post our podcast wherever they want and then it shows up somewhere or could be on Spotify, not sure And, but our mechanism is a mechanism that we do directly. We use this you know bunch of servers in Europe and Canada cost money doesn't cost as much as it would if he used Podbean. We're very fortunate to have Void Zero and BEMROS. Some pros like Void Zero's a pro, Bemis and Butthead

1:58:36 Man, you're so rude about our guys man. They love it. They need attention. No I... we... water. Yeah once you go drink some water and i'll tell you that if we have Ryan Bemrose who we call the program director and Mark Van Dyke is the systems master of our engineering stream management in wizardry! I got to meet Bemrose he was up in a Seattle Meetup Oh really? Nice really nice guy Of course these are all super nice guys All of them. You okay there, Chief? You don't sound so good... There's something else I was going to- Oh yes! So amidst all this, I do have a little OTG update. Oh yeah! A small one. Yes you have an OTG update it was in the newsletter. Oh thank you for putting that in

1:59:24 Yes, a little OTG update. As I was... you know we moved to the house and threw out a whole bunch of stuff like almost all my stuff and bought a couple boxes that were been organizing them And I find an old... Why don't you auction your stuff off? It's probably all valuable! Yeah no i'm not gonna do that We already tried that and I failed. I didn't follow through But I want to auction off because you have to wipe everything and this is gold in them devices man So I find an iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 was the last iPhone that Steve Jobs actively participated in design and... And, I would say the iPhone 5 is the most beautiful one ever done

2:00:08 Yeah, and it was actually... the 4 had the... you know now the four of course was that You're Holding It Wrong phone. Which was a weird one it released a weird cycle I agree with you I think the form factor you hold in your hand feels really solid The 5 is just a little bit bigger but the five has some differences as the LTE So you have 4G instead of the four which had 3g so just as a lark I fired it up just to see You know what was on it? What was going on with it, and I don't know why But it started up in complete reset mode maybe because the battery's been dead for years. I mean this is a phone from 2010 so It's been around for almost a decade um So I fired up and it starts off in new phone mode like now what the hell I'll set it Up as a new phone

2:01:06 And with that, I set it up with... You have to create an Apple ID. So I just created a phony baloney name and an email address I wanted from which would be iCloud.com. And it's set it up and I found out that you can update The whatever so I think I had iOS 8 on it you can update it to 10.3 3 not over the air You have to actually connect it to iTunes, so like what the hell Let me see what's going on when you have it updated 210 dot three dot three you can install something called privacy Pro Which I was reading about maybe two weeks ago some guy

2:01:51 Found out that his iPhone surprise surprise in the middle of the night was sending out 5,000 different pings Because of all the apps that are you know have all these these frameworks and and all these trackers inside The apps then Yelp it was apparently one of our phone. Yeah Oh killing the phony guy He says about a gigabyte of data a month if you really looked at him That's just what he had installed so this privacy Pro is Which I think is a subscription you have to pay for it monthly, but it works exactly like the PiHole only runs on the device itself. So it comes with a preloaded list of trackers and at the DNS level because basically its VPN

2:02:34 and so you're requesting, you know tracker.google.com it's on the list and then it goes into the bitbucket It never shows up on your phone And you actually have a pretty decent experience using your product What this gave me was the opportunity to look at what the iPhone is... who its talking to in its standard state the iPhone, no loaded apps zero except for this one which is the privacy pro app and it really only is sending stuff. It's pinging an iTunes server, its pinging the iCloud so I just locked all those off and she said nope you can nothing Apple can't talk to anything anywhere

2:03:19 And now all of a sudden, here's the phone that does...that has 4G which is what I've been looking for. Does not talk to any outside crap. Now of course you can still be your local even though and you gotta turn off background refresh, you gotta turn off Bluetooth, turn off Wi-Fi, you want all of that stuff off Because that's another way how they track you. You really only want to have cell phone tracking, unless you turn that off then you just have a phone that doesn't do much and it takes incredible discipline to not load any apps because once you do that then you're screwed this phone is quite usable in this instance

2:04:05 It will do email, it does it reasonably fast. It does text message... you gotta turn off the iMessage get rid of all that shit and I'm looking at a phone that is reasonably locked down from tracking except for the obvious ones they could do on my Nokia with the benefit of faster speed and a web browser that actually functions. And I'm gonna try it, now the battery is lasting you know it's already 48 hours on one charge because its not doing anything It's just sitting there The VPN is working a little bit but... Its very very nice product! and I think it may be the way to go and im calling it the iPhone OTG I think its the way to go and you can pick them up for 50 bucks on Amazon The 5? Yeah

2:04:55 It's not new, I mean it's refurbished but who cares? It gets scratches on it. I don't care Well that's kind of interesting Because the thing is you can't do this with an Android because the Android has all the shit built right into it You know who knows what android is doing? I have some faith...kinda With my phone the android which is an older android Is really not doing that much In fact as far as I can tell its not doing anything Yeah well I wouldn't trust that I have it turned off. Right, but I still kind of trust the old... You have it turned off and you won't do a lot and if you have it turned off there's likelihood of being tracking or anything then what I do is I keep my phone off! Well how hard is that? When you turn your phone back on it actually sends all your location up somewhere It doesn't do anything Yes it does has been proven Yeah well it did what I'd turn it on to make a call

2:05:53 Oh, you're sure it could send whatever wants at the point I'm making the call from maybe they'll send an AAA truck over. And then I turn it off again. I don't need to run a hot phone that's beeping away in my pocket and irradiating nuts John unless you physically removed the battery your phones not off Yeah well And this old dog, I'm pretty sure it is. Starting with Patrick Weingard, who's in Zeeland Michigan. $119 and he wants to... He is going to be wishing his beautiful wife Jubilee a happy birthday! Oh very nice Bob Maple 1111 needs a de-douching You've been de-douched Sir Hamus $100 parts unknown Sir Anthony of Philadelphia in Philadelphia

2:07:08 You got some pronunciation things for me, $100? He says, uh, pronunciation guy. Uh, shul kil is skoo kol. I don't know that and i'll never get that right! I don't know how many people we have from skoo kol But, uh... We should have more. Well you can have more and I can say schoo-cool. Schoogle! I'm gonna put a sheet up on the wall And then pasyunk is paaashunk Pasyunk. P A S Y U N K is paaashunk And by the way, I will read these pronunciation gazetteers if you want to provide them to me. It's interesting for the public at large because schu-kull is not something that I would normally pronounce correctly or who knew who would? It's very educational! But I can't pronounce Pualap in Washington State and Wairika in La Jolla Bill Johnson $72

2:08:11 Need some travel karma, we'll put that at the end for you. Gordon Gibson in Dallas Texas $69.69 Any possibility of getting an analog synthesizer dedouching? He needs a dedouching we can do that I don't know about an analogue... Do we have that?! I dunno what he's talking about You've been DEDOUCHED! You gotta help me out, i have no idea what that is Corey Bennett in Hercules California $69.33 He's got a birthday call for somebody. Uh, he needs a first smoking hot girlfriend, Ms Kim. All righty Ian Abbott in Winnipeg Manitoba, Manitoba 60 uh first time darn he needs to deduce we had a lot of first-timers You've been deduced! Uh you need some...he's got some requests We'll give him a uh a carm at the end

2:09:10 Gabe Chabazian. Also for the new donors, for the new timers due to brevity and just reasons of length and we want us still do a show although these segments are often entertaining informative We really only promise to read full notes from associate executive producers and executive producers. We pick stuff up from time-to-time in the lower regions but you know it's not always that easy so we just kind of move through it I did pick up this from his note though and if you have your pen, i would put this in the list because it got missed. Birthday shout out to his father grant 60th last Tuesday. Uh...I think he's on the list actually. Well should be yellow It is in yellow. It is? Yep

2:09:58 Will the do it is it the same yellow as kim thompson no its not it seems to be a lighter shade of yellow wonder what the point that is in at in abit when you pay your kids did him game shop by zion in san francisco california sixty needs some relative in the hospital karma will do that for ya Kim Thompson in Thornton, Colorado 53 another birthday call what is this birthday day? We had none the other day now we have one after the other it's a it's a baby boom Eric. Oh wait also hold on This is Kim happy with my husband Patrick July 5th and know the fireworks aren't just for your birthday Please deduce him as he's listened to your show for years still hasn't contributed so his wife of 25 plus years is doing it

2:10:50 And then having him de-douche, that's not actually the kosher. Happy birthday T Bone from your lunch lady wife! No I'm gonna do it, that's a great donation. You've been de-douched 25 years and they never had to fight Okay got Eric Reichels in Briel 5150 My first donation to the best podcast in universe He doesn't ask for it But I think he deserves it. No, no too late! You've been de-douched. I'm in a de-douching mood today Rich Semmel in Hillsboro North Carolina He has an...he had a note that I want to read wrote something in There was a couple of things that came out. I got my hat What hat? From Amazon What hat is this? This was oh yeah I think we put this on there's a Father's Day donation from Semel and

2:11:49 It's not much there, but I did get some other stuff. Well, I'll get to it. I think it's going to be in this list But I did get my hat my make keep America great Hat and it came with a little thing inside a little note from Amazon This is a gift for you JCD KA GM WG and that's what it does say that yeah So I don't know who's just whoever sent the hat? I think they mentioned that in a couple of notes ago last show Carl Schneider $51 Patrick By Bish Kirk, I think. Oh that's a Dutch name so it'd be... It would be by Kirk. By Kerk? By Kerk. Which is the...it's kind of the church next door

2:12:39 I think. 51 and also Emma Bloomer from Pittsburgh, and she sent a note in that's the one i wanted to look at she said a nice little note encloses the late gift from the Pittsburgh meetup hopefully with some cookies and then she sent this note She sent this book, a small little book and I'm thinking that I've got this book and it's a book of... There was not a lot in here. It was quite a bit actually. It's one of these Moleskine books with the rubber band and it's got notes from the me that people wrote into the book

2:13:17 Thanks for saying Washington like we do. How cute is that? Yeah, Jen Stockdale wrote a little note Ryan wrote a little note Bob Ryan Joel Ah yeah I'm supposed to have one of these too i think I never heard this Yeah I think there was two notebooks and they sent one to me as well which I haven't received but maybe it's just says hi John Hi John Yeah I think they sent mine to the PO box left to go take a look It's Mitlow my last name is Mitlo Love the show hate the pronunciation of my name jcd their loose swollen amy's a big desert.

2:13:56 There are less swollen amygdalas here. Sorry for the bad penmanship, drunk something Sir Fahrenheit was there. Sir Ryan J Brady Night of the Three Rivers is there and so I'm thinking well maybe uh it goes on a couple more. It's quite a few Emma wrote a note. That was it was a good meetup! I know it was a great meeting I'm thinking we should start doing this ourselves, you and I. Or have one of these notebooks like this one when you get yours, you can do the same thing just keep this notebook try not to lose it and bring it to future meetups and just pass it around. Or I kind of like the idea of having a notebook per meetup Like a scrapbook... We could be scrap bookers! Yeah but that's the problem is this is a Moleskine thing It's got maybe 300 pages in there There are six pages of notes so its like a wasted little book

2:14:46 One notebook per meetup. Okay, I don't know maybe should just be online we should just give up on the idea I Like the physical product though it'll stay around for a long time Hundred years from now Evans is next on the list of $50 and 50 cents then we go to Scott Sir Scott Nelson in Melbourne Florida fifty dollars and one cent He always wants to be up there like that And now fifty dollar donors name location if applicable Jesus Allen in Austin Texas Jesus Joe Winky in Santa Rosa, Maxine Waters Gravels Back. Don't forget to travel with your gravel! Toodles! Toodles Maxine Water's Gravel. Jeffrey Zelen in Oakland Michigan Jan Osefius in Ostwurne Yeah this is not a... I think it may young

2:15:43 I don't think this is his right, his correct last name. But I think the i in the u it would be Osuphouse? Pfft! I dunno. Jan in Ostforne. Okay send me a note Jan let me see if we can get your name right. Sir Peter Totes in Sugar Land Texas. That's right. Julian Robertson Aptos California Charles Eves parts unknown Richard Gardner who's like I think he's in New York but he's one of us sir Richard and Darren Dinek, Dinekowicz. There you go in Dubai we need a report take photos Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough Oregon and last but not least Annie Breglia great show on Sunday she says oh I had just had to donate I have to donate yes you did any and there she did she did donate she's our last

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2:17:30 Well you're right John, it is quite a birthday list for today. Not the longest we've had but this is the 27th of June 2019 Rich Semmel celebrated on the 24th to say happy birthday to him Patrick Weingard, happy birthday to his beautiful wife Jubilee. Corey Bennett happy birthday to a smoking hot girlfriend Miss Kim Ian Abbott Happy birthday to his dad Grant who turns 60 on June 25 and Kim Thompson says happy birthday to her husband T-Bone Sir Patrick will be celebrating on July 5th Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe

2:18:11 We have the meetups. Oh, I need to get that Meetup jingle in the right spot. What about us doing nightings? Well, I'm doing meetups first! If you want to run this show, then you get to determine how it goes. I like to mix it up a little bit. Save the best for last. Meet-Ups For You today... In Southeast London they're probably hanging out there as we speak Hello slaves Tomorrow in Salem, Oregon June 29th. We have to South Florida and Linden Michigan So that's a new entrant July 4th Seattle and Washington DC two meetups were really kicking ass with these meat of everywhere July 6 and Utrecht in the Netherlands Knoxville Tennessee July 9th Charleston

2:18:59 I want is it for I don't know if it's one of the Carolinas. That's not helpful, I need to talk to the back office. That's July 11th in Charleston we'll find out which Charleston. July 13 Atlanta Georgia July 19 Colorado Springs Colorado The 20th Southwest London kicks in July 26 St Louis Missouri July 27 Buffalo New York and Frisco Texas And on the 27th we have Frisco, Texas. So we have added Buffalo New York to that list go find The meetup near you at noagendameetups.com if you don't have one You can make one you can set one up and will help you will give your support of course the website is fantastic

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2:21:24 Beautiful. Thank you. All right, we got a couple of... This is big news! Finally one state finally had the gall to play this marijuana's now legalized in Illinois. Back in the U.S., Illinois has become the 11th state to legalize recreational marijuana after Democratic Governor JB Pritzker signed a bill Tuesday allowing for the possession and purchase of small amounts of the drug The legislation will pardon anyone with a non-violent marijuana conviction under 30 grams. Individuals can petition the court to vacate convictions that exceed 30 grams, nearly 800 000 marijuana related cases could be expunged thanks to the new law. The bill also sets up a program to invest in communities most affected

2:22:10 by the war on drugs. Illinois is the first state to both legalize marijuana and set up a marketplace through the state legislature, The law will go into effect on the first day of 2020. Congratulations! Couple of things 800 thousand people And, you know, got arrested or busted for pot. That's a lot. But the second thing was this is the only state that did it through the legislature they didn't have a public vote. Oh we gotta yes no on this proposition of whatever now this is just a legislation OK well let's jump on board

2:22:47 We're broke. Let's maybe some tax monies here we can collect We're legalizing it starting on the 1st of January in 2020 I thought that was commendable now That is interesting you write, I don't think it's ever yeah It hasn't gone through legislature anywhere and my guess not no it's always been a public vote Good on you, Illinois. Just to confirm what the public wanted and of course nobody mentions this in the mainstream media Well why would we do that? We gotta sell big pharma not this grow it yourself stuff We can't have people using actual medicine that works That's no good

2:23:25 So, meanwhile of course they've banned the e-cigs in San Francisco. I did have a finally got a report on it and its only sales. Yes sorry here we go. San Francisco is set to become the first US city to ban the sale of e-cigarettes City officials unanimously voted in favor of the ban Tuesday and Mayor London Breed has indicated she'll sign off on it The ban also applies to flavored tobacco products Proponents of the bill say e-cigarettes have not been properly assessed by the Food and Drug Administration for safety. The spread of vaping among young people in recent years has raised concerns about the long term health effects of the products. Opponents of the bill say the ban could cause people to turn back to conventional cigarettes. Jewel, the most popular producer of e-cigarettes is headquartered in San Francisco.

2:24:11 I don't know exactly what's going on with this, but to me it seems like this is the way you shore up the official product and official maker of the product and cut out everybody else who built the entire industry. That's what this is about in my opinion. It could be no, what do you mean? It could be you got to where they've stopped all sales of everything including the jewel product Yeah But only briefly so that they can get the you know So jewel can fund the research that's how it works with the FDA and they bought the company You know The the owners of Marlboro bought Jewel for was at seven or eight billion dollars There's some crazy amount of money

2:24:50 They want to be the rulers. They want to set the agenda for of the entire United States and they are going to do this by By screwing everybody over it, the people who built the industry Yeah And then... Is this a shocker to you? You're shocked No But I'm just telling you what it is It's..I'm not shocked. I hate this This was a good business. You hate big business? Yeah, I do kind of...I hate big business with entwined with government which is what we're talking here ah that's what I hate yeah that's called the corporatism yeah it's also fascist and fascism would be the better better term yeah that's exactly shut up slave you will smoke but we tell you to smoke don't make your don't make your own e-juice shut up

2:25:38 Tyranny! EJuice. Speaking of ejuice, in Austin Pride Month continues. Houston's pride week celebrations are in full swing right now celebrating the LGBTQ community and now one nine-year old is living near Austin performing as a drag queen to promote inclusiveness Keegan performs in drag as Queen Kiki. A third grade teacher asked her class what they wanted to be when they grow up, Keegan wrote in his memory book gender creative. Keegan says that he can be himself when he's wearing a dress He also has a message for anyone struggling with their identity I want the world to know that you can be special and you can be who you want to be You could be

2:26:22 a vegetarian, you can even be a veterinary. You can be LGBTQ, you could be a drag queen, drag king! Now Keegan usually goes by the pronouns he and his. His family says that Keegan has acceptance and support at their school in their conservative Christian town outside of Austin. Arrest these parents right now with your memory book I mean it's... The story was okay until you hear the kid talk and then you hear the programming You want to be a veterinarian. I'm surprised he wasn't all in for some global warming stuff, his program. Somebody was bragging about we busted the you know there's the school that Gore put together to propagandize poor 11 year olds whose brains not even working right in any real way and then Kristen I ran into one where the right wingers are doing the same thing

2:27:15 So, you feel like to get a hold of these kids and then brainwash them at an early age is really deplorable. Yes! And you know there's... it's just the industry the transformation industry perhaps we should call it? There are dangers to it especially with kids with young kids. Yeah especially when they start screwing with their hormones yeah that's where Think we need to draw the line, but really I'm gonna do whatever they want. I'm just saying arrest them There'll be some words you attach the word justice Just one of these situations and gender justice. Well, let's work on your justice gender justice We can go a gender justice. Yeah, I think so. Yeah the word you're writing it down too gendered justice, so we have Podcast Justice

2:28:15 I like the alliteration of gender justice though, that's kind of cool. And podcast justice which is an artificial construct but i think gender justice has legs We could run with it Well, maybe not every day. But the competition is definitely heating up. and really excited to be here. Skip is the latest company to bring two wheels to these city streets it will bring 500 more by Friday. We worked hard with Austin and the City Council to ensure that we'll be operating as a partnership rather just as a group coming in and dropping scooters off That'll total eight companies with wheels on the ground, with 2 more on the way They want to continue operating here and have been really responsive

2:29:16 Yep, you heard that right. In addition to Skip, transportation companies Razor and Wind Mobility have also been approved to launch in Austin When they do come that'll add 700 more scooters to the market The council member Kathy Tovo promises that's it for now We've got as many as we need for this market. The fact of the matter is, people have really enjoyed the ride so far. City data shows Austinites have taken over 4 million scooter trips since the initiative launched last year. While Tovo says she hears your concerns, she still thinks there's room to grow. Over time that will probably balance out as we really get a sense of what our market can bear. This is a council member talking like a tech executive!

2:29:57 Yeah, she's talking like a tech executive. We'll see what the market can be. Here are your concerns. She still thinks there is room to grow. Over time that will probably balance out as we really get a sense of what our market can bear. Austin City Council is currently working with the companies to find a way to limit this speed and usage of the scooters in certain sections of the city. It's a term called geofencing, it's already being used at the UT campus and at this point that technology isn't yet developed to be implemented elsewhere around town." So, actually I'm sad that I even played that because there's something much more important to discuss. There were two bills that passed for the border – what do we call it? Border service help emergency etc., one in the House and one in Senate.

2:30:49 the one in the House was voted down by the Senate, now the Senate took that had some amendments and some changes and it looks like... The US Senate or Texas? U.S. Senate I'm sorry us house of representatives this all happened under you know yesterday this would just went down yesterday he didn't hear much about it but I want to bring it up because it shows the disgusting nature of what, of the narrative that is being played and What is actually happening at the border and what this is all really about. It's about a four-and-a-half billion dollar Legislative bill that allocates money To what is happening on the border nothing with border security nothing with a wall or anything like that

2:29:57 Yeah, she's talking like a tech executive. We'll see what the market can be. Here are your concerns. She still thinks there is room to grow. Over time that will probably balance out as we really get a sense of what our market can bear. Austin City Council is currently working with the companies to find a way to limit this speed and usage of the scooters in certain sections of the city. It's a term called geofencing, it's already being used at the UT campus and at this point that technology isn't yet developed to be implemented elsewhere around town." So, actually I'm sad that I even played that because there's something much more important to discuss. There were two bills that passed for the border – what do we call it? Border service help emergency etc., one in the House and one in Senate.

2:30:49 the one in the House was voted down by the Senate, now the Senate took that had some amendments and some changes and it looks like... The US Senate or Texas? U.S. Senate I'm sorry us house of representatives this all happened under you know yesterday this would just went down yesterday he didn't hear much about it but I want to bring it up because it shows the disgusting nature of what, of the narrative that is being played and What is actually happening at the border and what this is all really about. It's about a four-and-a-half billion dollar Legislative bill that allocates money To what is happening on the border nothing with border security nothing with a wall or anything like that

2:31:36 not even more enforcement. This is all, well you've been hearing it in the news here's AOC. There is a very clear academic consensus on what constitutes a concentration camp and that is the mass detention of a community of people without trial or due process I think it's pretty universally and non-controversial to say that the administration is doing exactly that, and meets the academic requirement for what a concentration camp is. You're not comparing this to what happened in World War II? No no while concentration camps were employed during that time, concentration camps were also utilized all over the world including in the United States with Japanese internment

2:32:19 So, you know that's how horrible everything is. This is like concentration camps! Okay? Adam Schiff... Let me ask you President Trump tweeted yesterday that he's going to delay plans for these ICE mass deportations in major cities across the United States to allow two weeks for Congress to quote get together and work out a solution to the asylum and loophole problems at the southern border Are you open to negotiations on this to avoid those deportations 2 weeks from now We've always been open to negotiations and in fact we have been negotiating, and there is a bipartisan package in the Senate of some emergency supplemental relief to try to provide assistance. But make no mistake

2:33:00 There is nothing that Congress is doing or not doing that compels the administration to have facilities where children don't have blankets, or toothbrushes, or soap. And for the Vice President or the President to blame Congress for their own malfeasance uh...is just completely besides-the point and unethical and unacceptable! They could cure this problem today but they don't want to because frankly the cruelty is part of their policy. It's part of what they think will deter migrants from coming here, it's part of what they think will motivate Congress to build a wall and use these children that way is I just think immoral.

2:33:40 This is him projecting because he is in fact using children this way, in a moral fashion. Because this is not about the children. This is what the immigration issue was really about money big-ass money two million eight hundred and eighty $1,552,000 is going to the partners of the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These are mainly religious organizations, Catholic organizations—a lot of Republican-oriented organizations who are getting this money for Refugee and entrant assistance. Yeah, we've discussed this you've discussed I know but I gotta keep bringing it up because now we have the picture of the father and the daughter drowned face down in the water crossing the Rio Grande what no whatever they were crossing

2:34:31 It's disgusting because you're just doing this for your big donors, all sides. I'm not going to argue this but i want to play this This is the democracy...I don't know if it was on the show but this is a teaser There's another little angle of the same story But this one was the eye roller of the month I am a former child incarcerate during World War II This is a photograph of me when I was in prison 75 years ago, 120 thousand of us were removed from our homes and forcefully incarcerated in prison camps across the country. We're here today to protest the repetition of history. What was that all about? Repetition of history?! Yes! Concentration camps baby!

2:35:24 No, it's rude. She said there was a hundred and twenty thousand of us removed from our homes and put in detention camp And we don't want to have a repetition of history and I'm thinking where is this happening? So it's being removed from their homes that I don't think well the Trump promised he was going to remove people from their homes Well hasn't done much about that. Well you know why And he hasn't removed him to take him put them in a concentration camp. He wants to remove them to deport them Yeah, but you know why is because all just like the so-called Iran bombing The targets were all announced

2:36:05 You know, it wasn't supposed to be out in the news that he was going to do this but you know someone leaked it of course and so this is not the time to do a raid on anything if they're expecting you to show up. Yeah well that's for sure Remember there's actually 4.6 billion dollar bill all for toothbrushes and water and beds okay 27 million shall be available for the purposes of adding beds Of which no less than... Let's see what we have We have 8 million available for case management. I mean, the money is going to the Office of Refugee Resettlement! The bulk of the money is going to the prison complex who run these things which of course can only be Republicans No Obama was all over in Houston. Woohoo! He set them up real purdy

2:37:02 So let's not make any, let's just be honest about it. This is huge money a billion dollars is a lot four billion dollars is a lot of lots people just you know you get used to these numbers oh billion here but a billion! A thousand million in the wind so they can port them off to Maine. Well those toothbrushes cost a lot of money and then need to port yeah they send him off to Maine and Maine needs immigrants Oh we'll send him over there The trafficking is legalized the trafficking is being done by the US government. The Trafficking is the office of refugee resettlement stop it Stop what stop the immigration? No, they're not gonna do it because neither party has any benefit and honestly White and black people in America don't want to work on the farm you know want a pick fruit

2:37:58 There's another issue with that so everyone can be all high and mighty, but well. That's another form of decadence Thank you very much Exactly decadence. I hope yeah glad you got that off your chest. Yeah, well We've done it many times before And, you know AOC was out there like, that's exactly what she sounds like. I'd have to say she voted against the bill so i'll give her props for that but not because she really understands and she thinks it's just concentration camps. Concentration camp. And then finally... I repeat no repetition of history!

2:38:40 Finally for me, you probably saw Bitcoin which I've become a maximalist year ago. Shot up to was it like almost with the almost 1400 went to 13,800 just dropped down a bit now Not quite sure exactly what the catalyst is although I have a feeling that whatever China decides to say after the weekend with the g20 will Will give us some clues but it's also gaining real legitimacy in As a hedge strategy, this is Christina Hooper from Invesco on CNBC. What do you make of the safe haven trade which has been gaining momentum over the last week? If you look at the Japanese yen and 10-year yield breaking below 2% again And even gold that is six year high Well certainly there are a lot of safe haven trades and I've heard some strategists argue in fact that Bitcoin Is a safe haven trade or perhaps an indicator that we're getting close

2:39:37 I think that Bitcoin might be a sign of fears about recession, but certainly it makes sense in this environment that we see investors looking for safe havens. But i do think its mistake with the Fed signaling its willingness to be a lot more dovish So... It's being taken seriously as an asset something you can Safe haven trade. Yeah, like Beanie Babies. No see the tulip trade would be more appropriate people said Bitcoin it's like the Tulip Mania the tulips never came back and Beanie Babies left and didn't really come back They kind of came back. No not not like this. Bitcoin has not left

2:40:23 The first place it goes up and down. Well, let's quote John C. Devorak back down to 25 cents Yeah, what's the bottom John called the bottom for us just like I said 25 cents okay Beautiful which by the way is also the bottom for Twitter So they can have fun they can dig in meet and greet when he gets down there. I do have one kind of a you It clip I've been trying to get rid of but it's always cracked me up because you have this actually visually, you gotta see it. They had the first services in Notre Dame like a week and half ago two weeks ago? Yeah And everybody was in there with hard hats on and for some reason seeing bunch of priests and altar boys and everybody hard hats on I just cracked

2:41:09 me up. I'm glad you got that clip off your chest. Yeah, he did finally keep your eye on the G20 according to the To the New York former New York banker China will accept our terms and we will see an end to the tariff battle And that would be good

2:41:48 In other words, nothing's gonna happen. He says it's gonna happen he says Xi Jinping will say I can work with this guy We can work with these terms. No, we'll see. Okay? We'll say hopefully that's the case though That would be like you to go crazy no It's a small prediction from the New York banker and Stay tuned for end of show mixes. We've got Jesse Coy Nelson and a classic Chris Wilson, and a drone again as requested And coming to you from the fringe of Oxen... From the frontier of Austin Texas right near where the poopin's taking place In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley there is no pooping necessarily where i am

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