Episode 1134 · Sunday, 5 May 2019

Opinion People

A legislative standoff in Washington reveals the performative nature of modern hearings while international intelligence operations stumble in the streets of Caracas.

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About this episode

Attorney General William Barr declined to testify before the House Judiciary Committee after Chairman Jerry Nadler insisted on using staff attorneys for questioning. Republican committee members labeled the resulting session a kangaroo court as MSNBC and CNN broke away from live coverage to provide real-time fact-checking. The standoff highlights a deepening rift between the Department of Justice and House Democrats over the Mueller report's findings.

Senators Richard Blumenthal and Sheldon Whitehouse challenged Barr on his refusal to recuse himself from spinoff investigations and his use of the word spying to describe surveillance of the 2016 Trump campaign. Senator Dick Durbin questioned an ethics waiver Barr received regarding the 1MDB Malaysian money laundering case involving Goldman Sachs. Meanwhile, 2020 candidates Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar used their hearing time for performative questioning, while Joe Biden faced criticism for downplaying China as an economic competitor. In Venezuela, a failed coup attempt led by Juan Guaidó and Leopoldo López is being scrutinized for potential CIA involvement after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo claimed Nicolás Maduro was prepared to flee to Cuba.

Internal friction at Fox News surfaced as Chris Wallace distinguished between news people and opinion people following the appointment of Paul Ryan to the board. The Church of Scientology cruise ship Freewinds remains under quarantine in St. Lucia due to a measles outbreak, sparking a media frenzy over a 1969 Brady Bunch episode. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down these stories through the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 47 Discussion

William Barr, House Judiciary Committee Hearing Conflict

Attorney General William Barr declined to testify before the House Judiciary Committee following a dispute over the questioning format. Chairman Jerry Nadler insisted on using staff attorneys for questioning, a move Barr rejected in favor of direct questioning by members of Congress. Republican committee members characterized the proceedings as a "kangaroo court" during a chaotic session marked by procedural disagreements and gaveling.

william barr· jerry nadler· house judiciary committee· department of justice· mueller report

00:00 Uh, I need to... we need discovery so people can discover. Discover shows! Nudging the neocons and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the Drone Star State in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where nobody knows who William Barr is... I'm John C. DuBois and this is Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning Of course people know who he is Yeah I think Yes When you went out to the street and asked I don't think anyone would know No What'd they all say? Nah Never heard of the guy

00:48 Well, yes. William Barr testified well he was a witness yeah Yeah And you saw it I saw it we all saw it initial impressions clips actually I don't have any clips from from that itself I thought it was a Personally I thought it was kind of a poor performance by bar I loved it. I thought it was a great performance by Barr. I thought he looked, uh... He didn't have answers fast and he was trying to look cool It didn't quite look cool. I don't know I can see the perception where he came across as in fact In some cases somewhat unprepared. I thought it was very prepared Okay We disagree but you have the clips so let's go And I have the clips The thing is that Washington Post That's why I was laughing before this show

01:41 They went on and on and on slamming him pretty much the way you are. I was not slam... Stop! You're slamming him, you're slamming him! I did not slam him, I didn't do anything. BUTT SLAM!!! I just said it like, eh, it didn't seem that great. It wasn't a good performance. Oh, I thought it was fantastic. He, and then today apparently he said because well actually let's start off with the reason he's not going to do the supposedly today is supposed to go to the Nadler committee in the house. Is this another public hearing or is it a public one? Okay. And he said no I'm not doing it and the reason he's not doing it he said very clearly at the beginning of his testimony

02:34 Well, it wasn't a testimony. He just said at the beginning of his discussion of whether he's going to do Nadler because he wants to be...he's not going there to be grilled by a bunch of attorneys. He wants to be grilled by the Congressmen and women and Nadler no-no-no we're no good apparently Nadler felt that they wasn't any good for the the people on the committee to talk to him, he has to bring in some professional. Oh okay I didn't realize this so they're going to bring in legal experts to question him on aspects of the law? I guess that's great! They are going to grill him

03:14 I didn't realize that. Oh, this is good! Okay... Well no, it's not good because he's not gonna do it." Late last night he said that? No, I already said- He says, I already said I'm not going to be questioned by some professional attorneys that just came in there and asked me a bunch of random questions I'm either going to be asked questions by the congressman or I'm not gonna be asked questions by anybody. But meanwhile, Nadler paid zero attention to this and ramrodded through the idea that yeah we're gonna have at least our attorney ask him a bunch of questions in there. And if I was Barr and I heard what I'm about to play which is the Nadler committee going back and forth on this

03:59 I would probably not want to go to this committee either. Just listen to this. A reporting quorum being present, the question is on the adoption of the motion. Is this one? The chaos selection? This is the Nadler, yeah. That's Nadler going to he's Nadler ramrodding this idea through and he's not listening to the Republicans in San Diego. According quorum being present The question is on the adoption of the motion pursuant to house rule 11 clause 2 J chairman those in favor say aye Mr Chairman no Mr. Chairman I have it chairman. I have it the motion Mr. Chairman. The motion is agreed to. I won't recognize members of the committee unless you want to speak on Hello Rem, Meet Rod's motion

04:42 Does anyone wish to ask for a recorded vote? Mr. Chairman, I've asked for recognition. If you're not allowing Republicans... Clerk will report resolved. If you're not allowing Republicans to debate this motion You are making it a kangaroo court here! We oughta be going by the rules and giving people a chance to debate No wonder the AG doesn't want to come in and testify when we were running things without regard for debate. Totally unfair! We're in the middle of a vote, the clerk will report the result. Mr Chairman... No we get no amendments, I'll just say, the rank and file... Point of personal inquiry. The clerk will report the results. Regular order that parliamentary interview be entertained after the clerks reports the results. Mr chairman... Clerk will report the results and then do you want me to call the roll? Wait a minute so let me just understand what's happening

05:35 He said this is what we're going to do and he just ramrodded through even though there were objections. Is that what I'm hearing here? Yeah, but it's a very out of control committee. Yeah, like Nadler has no control now he's got to bang that gravel Mr. Chairman, we've already asked for it I thought you recognized the gentleman from Florida for an amendment Clerk will call the roll Mr. Chairman, you said you were going to recognize Mr. Gates for an amendment Mr. Chairman move the table Mr. Chairman I move to amend Clerk will call the roll We're in the middle of a role No no no! We were in the middle of debate and you ended it without the question being called I wasn't out of offering an amendment Mr. Chairman I moved to adjourn

06:22 Regular order. Regular orders put in your order adjourn. That's a privileged motion! Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. The motion to adjourn is not in order, in the middle of a roll call. Well the roll has not been called yet We were in the middle of debate and you didn't allow it I was in the middle of offering an amendment Mr Chairman? The Ayes and Nays would recognize the mental... Mr Chairman! You don't really have to step on it with that guy. But this is why would you go to this committee? No, if that's a preview yeah no of course she won't go there I'm wondering we will we come to blows like we've seen you know in Japan and wish We need some of that where someone just jumps over the dais and just starts wailing on somebody

07:08 I wonder. No, Nadler's committee is completely obviously out of control and of course the Washington Post doesn't report on that. Well hello... I don't know anybody that reported on this! I didn't even hear about it! Yeah it was wild, it kept going on and by the way. That's great good catch now the classic The classic, I got one two three. I think i have four clips with the bar discussing things with these various... Before we do that let me do a little entremont. But I was watching a number of different screens and something happened pretty much in the beginning and then later on an hour later that I have not seen uh that I can recall are on the mainstream news channels

CHAPTER 02 / 47 Discussion

MSNBC, CNN Live Coverage Interruptions of Barr Hearing

Mainstream news outlets including MSNBC and CNN broke away from live coverage of the William Barr hearing to provide real-time fact-checking and commentary. Hosts Nicole Wallace and Brian Williams interrupted the broadcast to dispute Barr's characterization of the Mueller report, specifically regarding the term "collusion." This departure from traditional gavel-to-gavel coverage is noted as a shift in media intervention during live government proceedings.

msnbc· nicole wallace· brian williams· cnn· lindsey graham

08:00 Typically when they have a, when there's a session like this they just let it all run at the end. They come in they've got all their pundits CNN I think had nine people Nine people in the semicircle MSNBC did something new They broke into the hearing Have you ever seen that where this hearing of some importance and then they break away to comment on it before? It's over Why? If there's no underlying crime... We're reluctant to do this, we rarely do. But the chairman of the Judiciary Committee just said that Mueller found there was no collusion. That is not correct Nicole Wallace. The report says collusion is not a thing they considered it doesn't exist in federal code

09:01 on stunning mischaracterization of what the whole exercise is supposed to be about reveals what I talked about before, that he's sitting there today not as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee but as a human shield for Donald Trump and it would appear on the podium bar. Again we try to offer just gavel-to-gavel coverage but that phrase or the lack of its absence from federal code this no collusion mantra

09:47 is so foundational to why we're here today that we decided to flag it when we heard him use it yet again back into the chairman and the committee room. So that was 10 minutes into it, and I've never heard anyone do that! They jump in, oh no wait a minute... That's not true! That's not- they're sitting there just yelling yeah? Yeah It's like all this was about was collusion. Oh no, that is not a legal term so Lindsey Graham the human shield for Trump it just that and they did it again an hour later. We want to correct some of the record against of all things what it says. The irony of Brian Williams

10:26 Just popping in to correct the record because someone didn't tell the truth is not lost on me. I'm sorry. No, no wait for the second clip this is different here We want to correct some of the record against of all things what it says in the Mueller report Nicole So um...I'm not going to dance around this he's lying He's lying about what the Mueller report finds around one of the critical flashpoints in the obstruction investigation They broke-in Of course after a Democrat finished asking a question they go to Republican that's when they jumped in and they have to jump into say Barr is lying

11:07 They could not wait to do it afterwards and do a clip. I guess they feel that this is really what this whole hearing was about, at least what i saw was hey you said this uh about the report but it was really quite different and then Muller said well I wish you had shown those 19 pages and then Barr said yeah I'm going to show all the page It was only about Barr's interpretation The Mueller report and the two three weeks in between the full report being released that was the argument That's all that it was about the whole thing And they have to jump in because oh who is lying? That people will be confused Very bizarre never seen that before that I can recall. Yes beyond bizarre mm-hmm, that's twisted But I liked it after we see here nothing but collusion collusion collusion for a

CHAPTER 03 / 47 Discussion

Richard Blumenthal, William Barr Exoneration Standard Debate

Senator Richard Blumenthal questioned Attorney General William Barr regarding the concept of "exoneration" within the Mueller report. Barr argued that the Department of Justice's role is to determine if a crime was committed based on sufficient evidence, rather than to provide a formal exoneration of the subject. The exchange highlighted the tension between legal standards in the criminal justice system and the political interpretation of the Special Counsel's findings.

richard blumenthal· william barr· exoneration· criminal justice system· mueller report

12:03 for two years from the NBC and the media, you can't all of a sudden anyone even brings it up. You got to jump in and say hey it's not a legal term I mean how does that work? We have the one little bit any collusion yeah yeah thats what we do all the time Any collusion? We've had it everywhere alright back to the actual hearing couple things Let's hear about, this is Blumenthal going on and on because this was a discussion on the concept of exoneration which apparently you know they made Barr is kind of beside himself as to why Mueller put in he's not exonerated when it's not anything they do. I think he explains it here pretty clearly. The report says that they could not be sure that they could clearly

13:02 say that he did not violate the law. As you know, that's not the standard we use in the criminal justice system It's presumed if someone is innocent and government has to prove they clearly violated We're not in a business of exoneration. We're not in a business proving they didn't violate the law I found that whole passage very bizarre You in fact exonerated him in your press conference and in your four page summary How did it start? I didn't hear the beginning of the question. You in effect... exonerated or cleared the president? No, I didn't exonerate. I said that we did not believe that there was sufficient evidence to establish an obstruction offense which is the job of the Justice Department and the job of the Justice Department is now over That determines whether or not there's a crime The report is now in the hands of the American people Everyone can decide for themselves There's an election in 18 months That's very democratic process But we're out of it

14:02 We have to stop using the criminal justice process as a political weapon. My time has expired, I apologize Mr Chairman but i would just say that the four page letter and the press conference that you did left the clear impression and it's been repeated again and again That you cleared The President Thank You Senator Erbs You did it Barr! Your going down in history as a liar Yeah, he did clear the president because that's his job. Who is supposed to clear the president if it was not him? He is the Attorney General! And Mueller was working in the attorney general office so he cleared the presidents and that what he did. What was he supposed to do? No no...He was supposed to NOT DO THAT! Clearly Brian Williams thinks differently! And Nicole Wallace

CHAPTER 04 / 47 Discussion

Richard Blumenthal, William Barr Recusal Demands

Senator Richard Blumenthal pressed Attorney General William Barr on whether he would recuse himself from various spinoff investigations originating from the Mueller probe. Barr flatly refused the demand, stating he had not discussed the substance of those cases in a manner requiring recusal. The discussion centers on Democratic efforts to remove Barr from oversight of ongoing Department of Justice matters.

richard blumenthal· william barr· recusal· spinoff cases· ethics

14:54 Nicole Wallace, they should throw her in jail. Why? What did she do? This is like Blumenthal... this is a classic example I think where people didn't like Barr's testimony because this is a short clip on Blumenthal on recusal. My recollection is- Wait wait stop stop let me get a little background first there's a number of spinoff cases that came out of this I think there's 12 to 14 of them and Barr According to Blumenthal should recuse everybody. Apparently, everybody should recuse themselves because there's some There's no real reason but they just should and so Barr is being grilled by Blumenthal about his I guess built-in prejudice. Oh right, right Yes he the bar should be president yes This was a good clip of where Barr just

15:50 says no. My recollection is I have not discussed those but you don't recall for sure? Let me move on... I can say very surely, I did not discuss the substance of it Will you recuse yourself from those investigations? No! NO!!! So that would be like, you know this is and it just came up every once in a while. He'd stay asked him a question as he say no and they all be what? There was not agreeable No another one is just the definition of White House's all over him with his white White House is, you know the guy from Rhode Island who thinks it's gonna be flooded because of global warming any minute. He's always like hunched over with his head tilted like at about 45 degrees and he's always talking sideways and he's very low to the dais and he's way down in this and he's got his mic way down in these and he's cocked and he's talking to him And so he had a chance to get out of the continuous

CHAPTER 05 / 47 Discussion

Sheldon Whitehouse, William Barr Spying Definition Dispute

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse challenged Attorney General William Barr's use of the word "spying" to describe authorized Department of Justice investigative activities. Barr defended the term as a standard English word for covert intelligence collection, noting his background in the CIA where the term lacks a pejorative connotation. The debate focuses on whether the surveillance of the 2016 Trump campaign was "authorized and adequately predicated."

sheldon whitehouse· william barr· spying· surveillance· cia

16:53 dead-end questions and answers, which I think is what probably people found was boring about the whole thing. But he talks about spying and I thought this spying thing was quite good this little back and forth with White House. You use the word spying mm-hmm about authorized DOJ investigative activities. Are you talking about my testimony before the House Appropriations? Yes, in the entirety of your previous career in the Department of Justice including as Attorney General have you ever referred to authorized department investigative activities officially or publicly as spying I'm not asking for private conversation. I'm not going to abjure use of the word spying

17:37 You know, my first job was in CIA and I don't think the word spying has any pejorative connotation at all. To me you recognize that... To me the question is always whether or not it's authorized and adequately predicated spying? Uh, I think spying is a good English word that in fact doesn't have synonyms because it is the broadest word incorporating really all forms of covert intelligence collection so I'm not gonna back off the word spying except i will say it. When did you decide to use it? I am not suggesting any pejorative and I use it frequently as do media, as do media when did you decide to use that was an off-the-cuff in the hearing that day or did you go into that hearing intending to use the word spying It was actually off-the-cuff whoever it was go ahead yeah which when when when he challenged me and said you want to change your language I was actually thinking like what's the issue I don't consider it a pejorative frankly we went back and looked at press usage

18:29 And up until all the far outrage a couple of weeks ago, it's commonly used in the press to refer to authorized activities such as referring... But it is not commonly used by the department. What? It is not commonly used by the department. My time is... Commonly used by me. See I tried to get some answers on this and didn't really get a definitive answer if its common to say spying or not In the issues by him. Yes, so he sees it is old school Yeah well and I talked to some old schoolers and was like yeah, yes No one known normally felt that was wrong But I guess they don't really house did yeah of course very upset Well of course because once bar dives into it if he's actually going to do that You know Muller has gotten all the guilty people out everyone who was guilty of spying is now out God knows where they are

19:23 And Barr's going in, he says to see if he can find out the origins of this. There was spying! Of course there was spying. Of course there was spying that's what Trump said when we were ridiculed Forget that it is what we do It is what Trump said when he was ridiculed Yes but still what we do We spy on everybody Yeah I don't understand why such a big fuss You're not supposed to spy on American citizens That's fuss worthy I think we've documented that's no true What's not true? Alright, here goes the Zephyrin. What do you mean of course it's true I think we've documented that spying on American citizens is not illegal No we've documented You know you said were not supposed to and i said we've documented that that's not true We DO IT! Oh okay yes Uhh...I mean It was just one of the recent shows where they're documenting how if your well

CHAPTER 06 / 47 Discussion

Dick Durbin, 1MDB Investigation Ethics Waiver

Senator Dick Durbin questioned William Barr regarding an ethics waiver he received to participate in the 1MDB Malaysian money laundering investigation. Durbin suggested a conflict of interest because Barr's former law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, represents Goldman Sachs in the matter. Barr clarified that the Criminal Division and career ethics officials requested he seek the waiver due to the investigation's importance, rather than Barr seeking it himself.

dick durbin· 1mdb· goldman sachs· kirkland and ellis· ethics waiver

20:19 I can't remember what the clip was, but it's quite funny. It was Gina talking about how we spy on Americans. Durbin tried to corner Barr with ethics is my... This is an ethics thing that they keep trying to say well you know there's an ethics committee that's attached to the Justice Department and apparently if you have any issues with maybe some ethical thing, you gotta recuse yourself. They really want this guy out of the picture and so Durbin found some setup where Barr did ask for an opinion from this ethics group which he didn't necessarily have to do and Durbin's all over it saying that he knows that he is in the wrong and he should be recusing himself and then Barr kind of weasels out of it with a very elegant

21:15 job leaving Durbin just flat-footed. I just thought this was a very good back and forth, it's a little long. This is an investigation into a Malaysian company. I didn't understand that the first time i heard it, the 1MDB matter? Do you know what that refers to? Yeah this is the company out of Malaysia and thats their name And they're the ones who are supposedly money laundering through the Trump inaugural. This is what the Lib Joe's are all about. The big hope of hopes amongst the Democrats that this is how they're gonna get Trump because somehow he had something to do with it when there was no evidence... Is that the Logan Act or the Hatch Act? No, this is just corruption and money laundering.

22:06 Of course, makes nothing but sense. On April 16th you received a waiver to participate in the investigation and litigation of the so-called 1MDB matter This is an investigation into a Malaysian company from alleged money laundering According to news reports as part of this investigation U.S Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York is investigating whether a Malaysia national illegally donated to the Trump inaugural committee with money taken from 1MDB You sought a waiver to participate in this matter even though your former law firm, Kirkland & Ellis represents an entity involved in the investigation namely Goldman Sachs.

22:45 How many waivers have you received to allow you participate in matters or investigations involving Trump businesses, the Trump campaign, or the Trump inaugural committee? None. You did seek a waiver in this case? Actually, the impetus as I recall and people should jump me if I'm wrong but it didn't come from... He said that a lot he instead of people should jump in he kept saying people should jump me but he kept saying that No, he only said it twice. Well I heard... okay so i heard that a couple times but isn't it people should jump in instead of jump me? You don't want to have people jump you! Why..I have no idea what is this like his little phrase yeah people should jump me. Hey jump me! Jump me. Are the Trump inaugural committee? None. You did seek waiver in this case? Actually the impetus as I recall and people should jump me if I'm wrong but didn't come from me I was asked to seek a waiver in this case

23:37 Do you do you see the problem if the issue is whether or not A money laundering operation in Malaysia is sending money to the Trump inaugural committee. That as Attorney General of the United States, you may not want to involve yourself in this? Well no I don't because I was not involved with the inauguration. Why would you seek a waiver then to participate in this? The waiver was...I guess the conflict it was not because of any relationship I had to the inaugural committee which I didn't know. It's the Goldman Sachs your former client. Kirkland Ellis, the law firm. Right and their client Goldman Sachs I just don't understand why you would touch that hot stove. Well, that's a good... You sought the waiver? That's why i'm asking the question The attorney- uh the criminal division actually asked me to get a waiver because of the importance of this investigation overall. I was requested by the Criminal Division. I didn't seek it. The impetus did not come from me And who would be that made their recommendation to you? I am told it was the criminal division

24:38 Mr. Benchikovsky? Yeah, he was the head of the criminal division but before apparently they discussed it with a career ethics official and they made the recommendation Thank you Yeah, that went flat. He tried to get something out of it and a couple of people did that. Camilla Harris has... I didn't get any clips but she has a very interesting style where she just asks the question cuts it off says yes or no! That's a yes-or-no question! She has that resting bitch face. I think it plays well for fans of hers

CHAPTER 07 / 47 Discussion

Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar Hearing Performance

The questioning styles of Senators Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar during the Barr hearing are analyzed as performative media displays for the 2020 election cycle. Harris is noted for her "yes or no" interrogation technique, while Klobuchar is described as using her time to promote legislative bills before pivoting to insulting questions. These interactions are characterized as a "sideshow" intended for political branding rather than information gathering.

kamala harris· amy klobuchar· senate judiciary committee· questioning style· 2020 election

25:15 I don't know. I didn't think she had anything to prove. No, she has nothing to prove but it's a media show the whole thing is a media show as usual Yeah Do you have more? Nah You know I did have a bunch of Klobuchar clips because she was kind of like the same She's very similar to Pamela Kamala Hamila Hamila Harris yeah Same thing, but the funny thing about if you listen to it's too long because they give them six minutes plus on these are opening questions. She does this thing that is kind of amusing to look back on it. Klobuchar has these two bills before Congress one has got something to do with

26:00 It's both, they're all kind of conflict of interest bills that have to do with these some various situations that are everybody agrees or needs to be fixed. That's summarizing And so she starts off asking about these things just to kind of promote her bill. And then he says, can you help us? Can you help us help us help us? Says yeah I can help you i think so and then she goes on it. Can you help us help us help is in the eye I think so and then she drills into the guy with this really insulting questions I'm thinking what kinda helped does she gonna expect after this It was just a stupidest thing I've ever witnessed if anyone could watch the entire Klobuchar

26:42 Q&A with this guy. It's pretty baffling. Some of these people aren't too bright. Well, it's again just a sideshow big sideshow glad everybody Watched it and is all upset about it. I like the media understand why they were interrupted just to Because there's that second guess the testimony or no, it's not second guessing see Graham No, no, it's not second-guessing Nicole Wallace is an attorney she knows things That's another clip. I didn't get I which I'll just reiterate could have had this clip

CHAPTER 08 / 47 Discussion

Chris Cuomo, Michael Mukasey Branch of Government Debate

CNN host Chris Cuomo engaged in a heated debate with former Attorney General Michael Mukasey regarding the independence of the Special Counsel. Cuomo suggested the Special Counsel functioned as a separate mechanism from the Department of Justice, while Mukasey corrected him, noting it remains within the Executive Branch. The segment also references Cuomo's past controversial claim that it is illegal for the public to read WikiLeaks documents.

chris cuomo· michael mukasey· cnn· special counsel· executive branch

27:21 bars being grilled by one of these guys and he says don't you think that all the pundits and and pundits and newsmen and lawyers and attorneys have all disagreed with Many of your conclusions, and bar says I've never run into any two attorney said they'd agree. Yeah, I saw that too well here is a attorney Chris Cuomo He's a lawyer And this kind of helps us understand why? Brian Williams and Nicole Wallace and others are just so nutty about it. In their own minds, they're conflating and they're mixing up different processes, different bodies within the US government I mean just everything! And the guy's a lawyer so you think he would kind of know how it works... He had on former Attorney General Michael Mulcasey

28:14 Which he should have known better honestly Cuomo consider this He's being investigated for a crime that didn't happen and that he certainly didn't commit who says it did not Russian interference happened Russian interference happened for sure but cooperation and Conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians did not happen, and that was the criminal level. No says Mr.. Mueller to any level I don't know about any level, but two criminal level I do okay, okay? And and there's an investigation going on not for a month or six months but for two years, close to two years. And his administration is laboring under the shadow of that investigation and people alleging that it happened uh... they're gonna be indictments so on and so forth But this is a special counsel

29:00 and it was put together by Rosenstein because he wanted it separate from the DOJ because of what he saw as potential consequences. It's not separate from the DOJ, I know within the DOJ But...as a mechanism separate. I know what's under the DOJ, I understand how the guidelines are written, I understand why they were written because we didn't like with the independent counsel. We have three branches of government this is within the executive. I am going to sprout a new branch of government but would your friend did It's not just oh, what's this? It's a new branch of government. Just for Cuomo. Yeah this new branch they can do stuff This is within the executive I am we don't sprout a new branch of government but with your friend did Is not just by the book he took it on himself to decide this rule He didn't have to do that course he had to do it why who was gonna decide whether to indict or not Congress

29:51 It's a political matter. Leave it to them Congress they decide whether to impeach Just go back and just listen to Chris Cuomo's answer, and then this guy is gonna wait hold on a second before you do this I think you should consider maybe play the clip again. What is Chris Cuomo's job on this show? Is Chris Cuomo a guy who is bringing people on to help us understand things or is he trying to ramrod his personal opinion down the public throat and his personal opinion by the way reflective of CNN, MSNBC for that matter the higher-ups in these organizations. I mean, what is he... why is he arguing with the guy to such an extent? Because well because he has a law degree that he's not a practicing lawyer? Remember this is the same guy that said you're not allowed to look at WikiLeaks That's only for journalists. You have it here? Yeah! Where is it?!

30:44 Well, what he says is he says it's illegal to possess stolen documents unless you're the media. And he implies that it's impossible for you too for the public to go and look at WikiLeaks now I want before you play that although I'd rather you played the other clip all from the beginning. Let's play the other clip from the beginning, then I want to front load this other clip. Consider this... He is being investigated for a crime that didn't happen and that he certainly didn't commit Who says it didn't happen? Russian interference happened! Russian interference happened for sure but cooperation and conspiracy between The Trump campaign and Russians did not happen And that was- To what criminal level no, Mr Mueller? To any level. I don't know about any level But to criminal level I do

31:34 Okay, and there's an investigation going on not for a month or six months but for two years. Close to two years And his administration is laboring under the shadow of that investigation And people alleging that it happened There are gonna be indictments and so on and so forth But this is a special counsel and it was put together by Rosenstein because he wanted it separate from the DOJ because of what he saw as potential conflicts. It's not separate from the DOJ, I know. It is within the DOJ But...as a mechanism separate? I know its under the DOJ, I understand how the guidelines are written, I understand why they were written because we didn't like what the independent counsel was- Its not just the guidelines! We have three branches of government This is within the executive. I understand. We don't sprout a new branch of government Right but what your friend did

32:19 is not just by the book. He took it on himself to decide this rule, he didn't have to do that. Of course he had to do it! Why? Who was going to decide whether to indict or not? Congress as a political matter leave it to them They decide whether to impeach or not And Mike you're skipping the big point which you taught me about very early on That IS the big point They can't indict him that is the opinion from the OLC so there's nothing to decide on that level It is purely political it always will be Congress doesn't indict Congress can I know I'm using amusing it as just a you know, a metaphor we Know because we know the audience. We know that we know the OLC says smaller by the minute You can't indict I don't if you could hear that in the background He's saying you got a huge audience and these is getting smaller every minute though Never come back. Oh my you gotta hear that its right at the end now

33:14 Ah, hold on. Shoot! It's not that important Okay now your Cuomo clip Well so Cuomo has got... and I have to say when i heard this clip And I don't have the long version but he talks about how it's okay for the media look at WikiLeaks because this is stolen documents and He kind of doesn't say it but he implies that if you look at it You're breaking the law well yeah If you're a spy If you're, and I which makes me wonder about him because to have this in your brain Is that the level of our spies in the United States? Woe is me. We're doomed

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Chris Wallace, Fox News Internal Rift

Fox News anchor Chris Wallace publicly distinguished between "news people" and "opinion people" at the network while discussing William Barr's March 27th letter. This internal friction is linked to the appointment of Paul Ryan to the Fox board and the "Disneyfication" of the brand. The segment notes that high ratings for opinion hosts like Tucker Carlson may not translate to advertising revenue due to brand safety concerns.

chris wallace· fox news· paul ryan· sean hannity· tucker carlson

36:49 And now Chris Wallace says this. You know, I know there's some people who don't think that this March 27th letter is a big deal and you know some opinion people some opinion people who appear on this network... He said he's making a difference between newspeople like himself and opinion people! That's the rift! Yes as he delivers an opinion Oh, no way. No he delivers what he calls fact but it's very interesting to see this split at Fox News This is fascinating And you know some opinion people who appear on this network who may be pushing a political agenda But we have to deal in facts and the fact is that this letter from the special counsel and was one of at least three contacts

37:38 With the Attorney General, between March 25th and March 27th was a clear indication that the Attorney General was upset. Very upset with the letter that had been sent out by the Attorney General and wanted it changed or wanted at least added to And the Attorney General refused to do so He felt the Attorney Generals letter was inaccurate He says in the conversation, he was talking about media coverage. That's not what he said in the letter What he says is you didn't reflect what we found in the report And there are a lot of people having read now the full report or as much it has been not redacted

38:17 you know, agree that he didn't reveal what was fully in the report. Again those aren't opinions that's not a political agenda those are the facts so not only is it interesting that he talks about... That wasn't by the way that was hardly the facts would he just oh no of course and there's a couple things this well let me just hear did say Did he say opinion people or people of opinion? What did you say? I know there's some people who don't think that this March 27th letter is a big deal and, uh... you know some opinion people. Opinion People! You have newspeople, you have opinion people and believe me that's how they talk about each other on two different sides inside Fox News right now. Opinion people are Hannity Ingraham Tucker Carlson

39:03 It's Ingram by the way. Thank you, thank you! I love Ingraham though this is what it looks like that's exactly how you spell it ingraham give me a break ingraham imma use that so with Paul Ryan now on the board of directors directors you know the Disneyfication of the Fox brand itself which does not include Fox News there is something going on and I'm still seeing mypillow.com ads during Tucker's show, which means they can't sell ads. They can't sell them because all the advertisers are afraid of advertising with the you know with the right people. The horrible opinion people Nazi quadroon came out from this swamp. Yeah

39:56 But it's just interesting to see this particular rift inside Fox News and I think that the opinion people are hurting. They're good for ratings, bad for business. Opinion people are on the outs, I think. Good for ratings, bad for business. That's the problem with that model Yes, that's a problem with the advertising model in general because we all know in United States of America there is only one God and that is the advertiser The advertiser rules everything. Exactly and I don't know they haven't, you know they don't spin off numbers to tell us what you know Tucker's monies are they always talk about the ratings but never talk about the income right? Well i do notice that. I do know that CNN let me see CNNs ratings

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CNN Ratings Decline, International News Alternatives

CNN's primetime ratings reportedly dropped 26% in April, leading to a discussion on the quality of domestic news versus international alternatives. CNN International, Sky News, and RT are cited as more watchable options for viewers seeking information beyond the Mueller probe. The hosts suggest that domestic networks are failing to correct course despite declining viewership.

cnn· ratings· cnn international· sky news· rt

40:47 in April dropped another 26% in prime time? Now we're still all talking... Can't they get a clue? I guess not. If you run by the CIA, let's say or want somebody other than your own common sense You can't make corrections on these sorts of things. They could correct the course I mean CNN International is doing fine. And it's watchable, CNN International is actually watchable! Every once in a while I catch and go wow this is pretty good. How do you receive it? I don't have it here how do you get it? You watch online? Yeah I've got it online.

41:29 Because if you want anything outside of bar muller, barber, you've got to what? You could got a flip on Pluto TV for as long as that lasts since they have also been co-opted. They still have Sky News. They still have RT. At least get some information about what's happening. Yeah the RTs doomed. Well they're Russian agent Well, they're registered and registered as such. Registered under the Ferris. Yes! They are registered as such. Yeah it's fantastic great time to be alive well is the golden age of the internet so where do we where did we hit the goal it pay attention now kids you won't get this you're not gonna see like even like this show is doomed well I don't know I think will make it out before before the real crunch comes down You mean exit strategy?

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Podcast Industry, Media Erasure of No Agenda

The mainstream media and podcasting conferences are criticized for ignoring the history and contributions of the No Agenda show. Despite the show's longevity, hosts note they are never consulted for articles or books about the medium's evolution. The discussion covers the unionization of Gimlet Media and the "value for value" model as an alternative to failing advertising-based networks.

podcasting· spotify· gimlet media· value for value· mtv

42:20 People get I got angry letters about this. Yeah, yeah producer email me to people in my family have donated But I just can't when you keep talking about exit strategy bring back the good old days I said what do we're doing one show a week for 40 minutes and you weren't donating? That's it wasn't bad. I don't think so So you do know that exit strategy is a joke right kind of I mean if we had a real exit strategy We'd just be weed exit Right now But right now being being on the front lines of the podcast Reboot is fabulous. No one cares about us not a single story, nothing covers us ever ever

43:02 No, no. And my favorite thing and of course Adam doesn't like me talking about it although he nods his head and says yes, that's the Tourette's yeah is the following which is they have all these specials on podcasting and they have all these conferences and then you have a lot of articles written in New York Times and elsewhere to mostly promote their podcast which isn't okay and They go on and on about the history of podcasting, and no one ever, ever. I've actually asked them about this specifically. Have you ever been given a single phone call? They know where you live!

43:40 To be asked one simple question about podcasting and its history, and maybe some thoughts on you can't monetize a network which you keep harping on Twitter. No no get a call. I do get calls say hey i'm writing a book about MTV. You want to write the foreword? That's what I get Well, you should write the foreword. Fuck no I'm not gonna do any of that scr- I'm not interested. You know in the studio I debated and deliberated for a while...I'm not hanging up a single thing from my past all the newspaper things all the awards the records all going in the attic I'm done! Do you know what we need? I'm done Is No Agenda album cover wallpaper Now thats'a great idea

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Mueller Report, Estimated Investigation Costs

Conflicting reports regarding the total cost of the Mueller investigation are discussed, with figures ranging from $20 million to over $50 million. The hosts propose standardizing the number at $33 million for their audience to propagate on social media. This is framed as a response to the lack of a definitive, transparent accounting of the Special Counsel's expenses.

mueller report· investigation cost· lindsey graham· donald trump· 33 million

44:30 Yeah, and each role can have like you know you could probably do three across no agenda shop guys pay attention And it'd be a nice wallpaper. This is wallpaper your walls By the way before I just want to go back to one thing about me sound insulating I want to go back about the Mueller report Here's one question. I have that I'd like someone to answer truthfully and with backup How much did the Mueller report actually cost? It was 20 million, it was 40 million. It was 25 million is 30 million. It's more than 50 million. No one everyone has a different number Yeah they do but I think it has always been kind of targeting 35 million although 33 would be a better number That's what I'm waiting for we should just introduce that and just keep saying it

45:24 Just say actual cost of Mueller report thirty three million dollars everyone go tweet that now According to the Mueller report the report costs 33 million dollars. Just just make sure people know that no Everyone has a different number Trump has a different number. There's Lindsey Graham at all different numbers They're just full of shit alright back to podcasting I dare, I did want to mention The reason why Spotify and Pandora are getting into the podcast business... To scam the public. Well, it's because they have no other way to increase their revenues. Zero!

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Spotify, Pandora Podcast Business Strategy

Spotify and Pandora's aggressive move into the podcasting space is analyzed as a necessity driven by the lack of profit in music streaming due to high royalty costs. By owning original podcast content, these platforms hope to increase revenue without paying external rights holders. The segment also touches on the pitfalls of video podcasting and the sustainability of creators on platforms like YouTube.

spotify· pandora· podcasting· music royalties· youtube

46:02 They don't own the content of the songs and those contracts, what's even written into statute... ...of how much needs to be paid. There is no way! And if they start to really do well and they never made a dime... ...they start to really do well then you know the music business will just up the price They're a bad drug dealer. And so they figure, oh we have this content, we have our original content that we're gonna... No one is not going to work and I feel bad for the union people because they're the podcast union people within Spotify. Oh the podcasts union number one! Yeah wasn't Gimlet? Gimlet was going to unionize. Oh yeah, Gimlet yeah

46:51 I feel bad for them because they're actually going to put themselves out of a job. Like, I was talking to a guy in Holland just yesterday... Big TV show or big TV show didn't work out too well ratings low canceled after 24 episodes even i've known him since I was 20 21 radio guy and he's been doing a podcast which is good you know it's very right wing it talks a lot about Trump and how yeah pretty much the same situation in Holland And he said, I'm just gonna do this podcast and he wanted to know how the value for value system worked. I said the first thing you gotta do because he'd been talking about this stop with his idiotic video Stop don't do video You will never make it if you do video He said oh They had to think about it for two days say I think you're right Yeah look and by the way your ugly your fat and ugly like me I got Tourette's we belong on a podcast my friend We don't belong on video anymore

47:51 Okay, I have to say the thing about people do mention well once you guys do the end You know he's just doing pictures on the video. I don't know what the point of the video is if your can listen to a podcast It's not that hard To just listen instead of we have to stare at a screen with pretty pictures mm-hmm I don't know, people just are enamored. Well you know all the money you can make from YouTube, you know? Look what PewDiePie makes! That guy's rich!" Yeah well he'll... Don't worry he'll get kicked off it's only a matter of time. It is so typical let's talk about 2020 for a second

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Joe Biden, China Economic Competition Comments

2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden faced criticism for downplaying the economic threat posed by China, stating they are "not competition for us." During the remarks, Biden appeared to have a "senior moment" regarding Chinese geography. Critics point to the loss of American manufacturing jobs as evidence that China is a significant global competitor.

joe biden· china· 2020 election· manufacturing· senior moment

48:31 I don't know if you have anything or give us an update who's the from the Cosmic Weenie report card. Who's the frontrunner right now? Is that still Joe Biden? No, no it hasn't been Joe Biden for weeks as you get update that thing with a version number Okay So what is the latest on the burn by Bernie's number one burnings? Biden's and number two in Hillary's number three well let's look at this here's Biden saying something very interesting Why is it not starting? Oh, there we go. Meanwhile Joe Biden playing down the economic threat from China watch this China is going to eat our lunch Come on man They can't even figure out how to deal with The fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east I mean in the West I mean you know, they're not bad folks but guess what

49:29 They're not a... Did he have a senior moment there? Hold on. Listen to this. They have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east, I mean in the west. You know they're not bad folks but guess what They're not a competition for us. Whoa! Exactly, they're no competition for us. Oh okay. Took all our manufacturing jobs. Who's he kidding this guy? Well now... There has been a lot of it by the way there's been a lot of weird and odd anti-Chinese stuff being posted on YouTube. Ah well this is all part of the plan it's the one that you predicted because Hillary is about to run

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Hillary Clinton, Rachel Maddow China Interview

Hillary Clinton appeared on Rachel Maddow's program and sarcastically suggested that China should find Donald Trump's tax returns, mirroring Trump's 2016 comments about Russia and emails. The hosts interpret this appearance and her use of the term "hypothetical Democratic candidate" as a sign that she is preparing for a 2020 presidential run. The segment critiques the absurdity of inviting foreign powers into the electoral process.

hillary clinton· rachel maddow· china· tax returns· 2020 election

50:11 There's no doubt about it, and she went on Rachel Maddow. And this is what she did... Since Russia is clearly backing Republicans Why don't we ask China to back us? I hereby tonight, ask China. That's right and not only that, China if you're listening why don't you get Trumps tax returns? Im sure our media would richly reward you now according to the Mueller report that is not conspiracy because it's done right out in the open so if after this hypothetical Democratic candidate says this on your show within hours

50:48 All of a sudden, the IRS offices are bombarded with incredibly sophisticated cyber tools. Such as hey you need to reset your password moron okay that's a sophisticated tool alright Looking for Trumps tax returns and then extract them and then passes them to whatever the new WikiLeaks happens to be No agenda show And they start being unraveled and disclosed Nothing wrong with that. I mean if you're going to let Russia get away with what they did and are still doing according to Christopher Wray, the current FBI director who said that last week They're in our election systems We're worried about 2020 he said so hey Let's have a great power contest and let's get the Chinese in on the side of somebody else Just saying that shows how absurd

51:43 the situation we find ourselves in. Yeah, what you just said really took it to a new level have the Chinese back the Democrats and Joe saying come on man they can't do nothing that's...and I have some interesting China stuff after our break but just... Do they think that this strategy is appealing to anybody but their very very core, you know the 20% of people that would vote for Hillary if she was a serial killer. Look she's going after all demographics She's setting it up, she's getting ready CBS this morning had a very bizarre piece with the comedian his name is Jordan Klepper

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Jordan Klepper, Clinton Mueller Report Audiobook

Comedian Jordan Klepper appeared in a CBS This Morning segment with Bill and Hillary Clinton to discuss a satirical crowdfunding project for a Mueller report audiobook. The segment is viewed as a non-funny media vehicle to keep the Clintons in the public eye. The hosts suggest the ongoing Barr controversy provides the necessary opening for Hillary Clinton to re-enter the political arena.

jordan klepper· hillary clinton· bill clinton· mueller report· cbs this morning

52:32 And he, I've not heard of him. The whole segment is not funny but he has a show on Comedy Central and so we sitting with Bill and Hillary and he's walking through that... He wants to get in on the crowdfunding craze and he wants to crowdfund something So it brings in advisors this as part of the gag Bill & Hillary Yeah, no it's been going this clips going around. It's a good clip. Here's an interesting one fund a audio book of the Mueller report as read by Hillary Clinton Oh

53:08 Gosh, I would definitely contribute to that. Yeah? Sure! It would take a long time to record that. I think you'd need two weeks and a couple of lozenges. Oh yeah lots and lots of lozenges Why am i crowdfunding audiobooks with the Clintons for the last six months for my new show I've been on the front lines of American activism. I've seen people run for office sink boats and get arrested An acting change is hard, but this week we saw a real difference made from of all things the internet. A GoFundMe soared to its goal of more than 1.8 million dollars overnight! I wanted in on the crowdsourcing game, so i brought in some trusty advisors You guys need to help me spend 1000 of my own dollars on worthwhile causes that are hopefully going to make for a better future

53:52 let's try alright somebody trying to raise money to take a law class to impeach donald trump now unless this person is already in the congress this guy who just wants to take if you are classes to attempt to impeach donald trump and he's not in a position to do that we got it really digest what's been the moral report because we know what the attorney general said about it is not true listen to bill man bill is on the ropes again yeah did he miss represent a lot of school maybe we should send him to last word no uh... This guy who wants to take a law class too. I agree, that would be... Okay but we should start a Kickstarter to send William Barr back to law school for continuing legal education Yeah if somebody wanted his continuing legal education i would be for that That's been a great idea Poor Bill Maybe God! I mean I think I need to bring it back Didn't you mention this to me the other day? We gotta bring it back Bill! You need to do it Bill is on the block and I think he seriously on the block

54:50 There's a push Hillary right to the forefront that would be I mean would cosmic weenie put her at the top on the report card if bill kicked Absolutely in the saddle. That was that was part of the deal remember, that's that was up on the cosmic weenie list update him on that oh My goodness this you're gonna play the clip where Hillary read from them now No, no the whole thing but none of it was funny No, no it was decidedly unfunny. And why is CBS running this as a morning show segment? I mean this gives me everything to believe she's ready to get back into the game there needs to be some well maybe that maybe this bar controversy is what she's looking for but there's gotta be something that you know... She's not going on Rachel Maddow to say and I think didn't even say some Democratic candidate in that clip

55:47 I don't know. Actually, you know...I'll tell you this is that she doesn't have a book out and she's getting booked on these things there's got to be some reason other than She normally doesn't go floating around unless she's either running for office or she has a book There's no book right so she's running for office boom Let me just listen to that Rachel Maddow clip again not the whole thing but i think it's in the beginning she says something Why don't we ask China to back us? I hereby tonight, ask China. That's right and not only that, China if you're listening why don't you get Trumps tax returns? Im sure our media would richly reward you Now according to the Mueller report that is no conspiracy because it done right out in the open So if after this hypothetical democratic candidate says this on YouTube... Now did you hear how she said that

56:45 I think that's something, something wanting to come out about her running. Run right out in the open. I don't understand why people don't get a clue about this? Here it is... If after this hypothetical Democratic candidate says this on your show... MWAH! Yeah, yeah, I think it's pretty clear. Hypothetical! Beautiful. Beautiful Do you have anything on... She's also in this, I have a little medley of electoral college people. You can recognize each of their voices.

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Electoral College, Republic vs Democracy Debate

A montage of Democratic figures, including Hillary Clinton, calling for the abolition of the Electoral College prompts a discussion on the United States as a Republic. The hosts argue the Electoral College serves as "load balancing" to prevent high-population states like California from creating a "tyranny of the majority." The Brexit vote is used as an example of the flaws inherent in pure democratic systems.

electoral college· hillary clinton· republic· democracy· brexit

57:25 who all want to do away. Hillary, why does Hillary give a crap at this point unless she's running again? To get rid of the Electoral College you'll hear her voice in here. Well some things that I would like to change one is the electoral college The electoral college needs to go and maybe we might want to take a look at the whole electoral college. I think it needs to be eliminated i'd like to see us move beyond it yes And that means get rid of the electoral college I think it's worthwhile, because you do it so well to once again explain why we have the Electoral College and what its supposed to protect or if it's what his function is. Its function and it worked very well apparently. It's function is to keep bad actors out of the presidency

58:14 And how it works, obviously people should know this is that you have every state has a number of electoral votes and it's fixed at that number. That's determined by their population but it's not a direct reflection of the population because sometimes some states will be kind of overrepresented by the Electoral College and the idea When the votes come in, the state that wins they get all the electorate. It depends on the state They can choose to do whatever they want but generally speaking even though there's some people are... There is a new movement Yeah we've talked about that But generally speaking the state votes 70% for Hillary and 30 percent for Trump The electoral votes go for Hillary The states have vote 51 percent for Trump and 50 percent for Hillary goes to Trump

59:05 And the idea is it's a balancing, it's load balancing. It's to keep the big states like California that have locked out Trump because his run by the state is corruptly run 100% by the Democrats and devote kind of was like 70 to 30, it was something along those lines. And it turned out to have 4 million more votes for Hillary than Trump when most states had like 20 thousand more or 50 thousand more or something reasonable so that popular vote if its eliminated and you only go through the electoral vote, it eliminates a chance of two or three big states loading up

59:49 just loading up and pushing through whoever these big three states want because they've got so much population that they can be overrepresented. And so it ruins the idea of our federal government, we're a federal... I'm sorry, We're a federation of states. We are republic and republics aren't democracies, and they keep using this where the Democrats keep saying democracy, democracy, democracy when it's the Republic that we are in a Republic is balanced so you don't have the tyranny of the majority which is the problem with democracies And that's what's actually going on No one ever brings this up and we don't for some reason but we don't bring it up In the Brexit vote

1:00:32 The Brexit vote, which was 51% of 49 something along those lines 3%, I think was the difference. That's two but that is a...that's how a tyranny of a democracy works where almost everybody doesn't want this. But yet there's the tyranny of the democracy, that's a very good point! It's a tyranny of the majority and in a democracy the majority can be a tyranny very easily because if you associate people who will come out to vote like at the Brexit vote all the youngsters that were all they're all pro-EU they don't even want to be British They didn't even bother, who cares what they were making. Then they lost the vote and the next thing you know they're all bent out of shape. Well this is an example why democracies aren't that great." Ah that's a good example. Pelosi for some reason was in London

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Nancy Pelosi, London School of Economics Podcast

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appeared on a London School of Economics podcast to discuss Brexit and its impact on the global economy. The hosts critique her focus on international issues while representing California. A brief mention is made of George W. Bush winning the presidency via the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote.

nancy pelosi· brexit· london school of economics· national security· california

1:01:22 doing the rounds because you know she has to work for the people of California and She was on the London School of Economics podcast a very short clip about brexit usually when we come here We're talking about national security. We're talking about intelligence. We're talking about the economy We're talking about so many things and this time it's Brexit, Brexit, Brexit So I'm not a good place to talk about the system. I wish she had done it more pronounced because it is an ISO. Brexit, Brexit, Brexit... But its not like the jobs thing where she really yells it out? No. That's too bad By the way we passed up that you know about this ISO I took from that Nadler committee clip Let me check it out Mr Chairman move to table Mr Chairman I move to amend Clerk Mr Chairman I move to adjourn It's not really funny

1:02:14 It's okay. Wasn't tight, wasn't tight. Just one more thing about the Electoral College didn't Bush Jr win through the electoral college and not the popular vote? Well that was the close one where they... That's not absolutely necessarily true because of the Florida vote but yeah well then how did it save us from tyranny Al Gore. Okay, and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning To You The Man Who Put The Sea In Chaos John C Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also... In the morning to all the ships of sea boots on the graphene the air subs of the water all the day and night out there. In the morning to the troll room hello trolls How many trolls are in there right now? Let's take a look how many how many how many trolls

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No Agenda, Episode 1133 Artwork Redaction

The hosts discuss the cover art for Episode 1133, created by CZM-137, which features a redacted version of the Mueller report claiming No Agenda is the best podcast. John Dvorak offers a critique of the "fuzzy" redaction marks compared to real-life documents. The segment also covers the "art generator" tool and the lack of effective discovery mechanisms in the podcast industry.

cesium-137· mueller report· redaction· podcast art· seo

1:03:09 Forget what is it this LC? There's my command 962 low trolls we need more trolls in there no agenda stream calm you can go in there 24 hour 24 7 24 hours a day. There's always someone in there to chat There's always some cool stream running the shows that are on there It's well worth the price of admission, which is free so that is no agenda stream comm also in the morning to CZM 137 it's been a while since CZM has scored the artwork for episode 1133 no apology and there was a number of different choices we could make this was the The redacted part from the Muller report which reveals that No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe And it was a good piece, and I think a lot of people got the joke

1:03:59 Oh, you were gonna comment on the redaction. Oh yeah Well I hate to Backseat drive as artists yes the artist back seat drive well no I wasn't going to say this on the show But while we were talking about it so the only thing I don't like about it is The redaction marks are not the way they look in real life their square They have sharp edges and this was all fuzzy so like it was I mean, maybe if you have a redaction from the 70s it might look like that. But i don't know It's okay and I love the piece and I thank Cesium-137 very much. Thank you sir soft pedal dad Also thank you Paul Sir Paul for upgrading the art generator over the last couple of days

1:04:44 He announced it to us. Is it running again? Yeah, it is! It's running of course these guys and people work hard they worked their asses off for the value for value No I know I wasn't running yesterday morning when I was doing the newsletter. I know a lot of people were complaining about it but hey you know The thing is running he gave me a heads up if anybody bitched at me yeah And we now have this point My goodness, we must have over 11,000 pieces of art. Maybe I think in the no 13403 as of right now Noah gender art generator comm great place It's a great place to To upload your art if you want to for the show it's part of the value for value network You know a lot of places go get ideas this too

1:05:25 But for us, it's really fantastic. It makes a huge difference in most of these podcasts... A lot of podcasting apps not all them adhere to it when the art changes people People's attention is drawn to it and they click on it which is a good way to go It's probably the only discovery mechanism we really have and I think discovery mechanisms are kind of BS anyway You know that's not the big thing And we've heard it with blogs and we heard it with every other thing I need to we need discovery so people could discover discover shows. It's not how it works that gave into SEO Yeah, yeah Well you know Spotify is not making discoverability very good well now who cares? Also got hired as EO expert what these people are saying is I want to be promoted by somebody That's what they're talking about promote my show

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Executive Producer Donations, AJ Van Steenbergen

Executive Producer AJ Van Steenbergen, a retired Marine, contributed $1,000 and shared stories regarding California's new Narcan regulations. Pharmacies are now required to sell Narcan alongside certain opioid prescriptions, sometimes creating cost barriers for patients. The segment also discusses the failures of single-payer healthcare systems in the Netherlands, where drug shortages are becoming common.

aj van steenbergen· narcan· opioids· california regulations· healthcare

1:06:20 Well, that's just not how it works. You got to go hit people in the mouth That's been our mantra. That's how it works and People who do that for the show we appreciate that very much And that is how it works you get out of the network what you put into it? and we have people who've been very generous today to help us with financial side are executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1134 And at the top of the list is our Baron of Southern California, A.J. Van Steenburger. Bergen who's a retired Marine Semper Fi he always sends a... Oh that's yes! Of course I know who you are now He sends us a little...I'm keeping his notes because they're so well...they get the marine letterhead just the symbol Are they typed or handwritten? They're typed but it's signed Nice It's very pretty notes

1:07:12 I'm a bit late with my 2019 omnibus budget submission for the first two quarters, but here it is. We got hit by a new salt limitation in California and did some temporary sequestering to get the budget back on track. Two quick stories. One I had back surgery this month while lying in my hospital room after surgery. A young lady walked up to the machine near my bed, by the way if you've ever seen these, I don't know if these commercials are all over the country or not but there's these commercials called Just OK Isn't Good Enough and they're AT&T commercials and he have these bonehead situations where somebody is

1:08:00 They're just, they don't know what they're doing but your life is in their hands kind of thing. This fish is raw, is my favorite. So he's describing one of these situations. He walked up to the machine near my bed and starts pushing buttons while saying, paraphrasing like I'm so disorganized today like just like a walk into the wrong room but like I'm okay now I think I'll get back on track like I should because I know better than to take four days off cause like Netflix overload. Really? That's apparently yeah, she's poking buttons. Oh my goodness on the machine is hooked up to Damn nurses are you I grew the day when Millennials entered the workforce and started running things that we depend on You're doomed bro We're all doomed that day is here Mimi Constantly bitches about this particular phenomenon oh the Millennials are now bitching about the zoomers well

1:09:01 They should look in the mirror, that's the way I see it. Yes old man, I'm with you. Got it! That day is here lying in that bed I did some serious rewing too when my sweetheart picked up my prescription for oxycodone the pharmacist handed her a box of nasal spray she said she didn't need nasal spray thank you The pharmacist told her that California regulations now require that the sale of a dose of Narcan with every opioid prescription, that contained enough pills to cause an accidental overdose. Wow! I didn't know this. I didn't know this either. That's regulation huh?

1:09:46 Yeah, so you get... We should have invested in Narcan a couple years ago when we first did this story. No no we looked at that it's a private company You can't that's the problem they're private Their copay was 11 bucks. The pharmacist said that he has dealt with more than a few people who cannot afford their copays, often as high as $50 so he can not sell them their prescription pain meds. Think of that what you will. No jingles but I could use a bit more of your health karma. Thank you very respectfully AJ AG. You've got karma. AJ sorry. We're just kidding. St. Paul's Park.

1:10:23 I'm always getting his name A-J-A-G. Hey, maybe the heroin drug dealers should be handing out Narcan with their packages? If they can get it at this price, 11 bucks that stuff costs hundreds! You know just on the... By the way, I want to mention Gracie L has signed his check, his wife Or I guess it's his wife. Who else would be called Graciella? His nurse, his handler could be anything. Maybe its handler could be his handler but that was sweet You know that there are fights going on in Dutch pharmacies Yeah, they have the basic

1:11:06 idea of single health, the single payer. I mean it's not exactly like that but it's very much kind of an Obamacare Medicare type system and so the insurance companies run everything and now people are going into the pharmacy to get their drugs Of course these insurance companies only want the cheapest generics And what happens now is that the companies aren't making and distributing drugs to these countries because the demand is so low, and then all of a sudden they run out. So they keep running out of important things for people

1:11:42 Oh, yes. They're running out of medication people are freaking out and they're saying I don't want this cheap ass I want the expense I want the brand name and they can't get it And yeah well the Dutch should they got here if we recommend brand name It says brand name only mm-hmm you do have to get the brand name You can't get the generic no that's not that's not the case with the new system No, no you get the generic and if the generic is out tough luck you come back in a week. That's fantastic Well, that's no good if you need the drug. No I'm just reporting don't shoot the message anyway so the Baron of Southern California Thank You very much $1,000 beautiful yes simplify now he comes up these followed up by our buddy who's on the road again seronimous of dog patch and lower Slobovia comes in with six six six oh

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Animus of Dogpatch, Global Travel Report

A $666.66 donation from "Animus of Dogpatch" includes a detailed report on international travel, deteriorating airline food, and the rebuilding of Notre Dame. The contributor claims there is a plan to turn the island of Notre Dame into a major tourist destination for the 2024 Olympics. The report also touches on Islamic scholars' social media engagement and public sentiment in Beijing.

animus of dogpatch· notre dame· beijing· brenton tarrant· global warming

1:12:36 His numbers always mean something. I'm not pleased with this." Well, it's interesting...this is to get out read the end of the note first says this is not my May donation but a Passover Easter Shabi Barat donation reinforcing the coincidence of Abrahamic unity. So 666 is a number I think that I don't know that's what it is though six six six Thank you to all the producers for continued Peabody Award level value on this show. Consistent, persistent unparalleled news deconstruction." I like it. John you said that you wanted to know about my travel so here's my view from 42 thousand feet today when stays are five days or fewer the experience is taxi Uber Lyft Kareem track don't know what that is but apparently some competitor Kareem track somebody should look that up C-A-R-E-M

1:13:31 Airport, airplane, taxi hotel, taxi meetings, taxi hotel, taxi airport. Airplane repeat. Airline food has deteriorated to levels not seen in a decade. Hotels are portraying better services but like the gilded age it is often superficial partly because they help is under trained. But good tipping and dollars always attracts the best services Currency issues are more often discussed as the dollar's strength, and fear of devaluation or tariffs make long-term investment more challenging. Religious differences sectarian issues are being downplayed in the press and harmony is discussed." You note this trend on your show and I see it more broadly with Brenton Terent being an international example. Christchurch.

1:14:25 What? That was the Christ Church. Oh, the Christ church okay The effort to make the Notre Dame fire a religious reawakening towards national unity seems to be failing By the way just before I want to get this out before I forget apparently there was a whole plan already for Notre Dame and so it's going to be...it's not going to be restored it's going to be rebuilt with this plan that has been around to transform the Delasit, so the island itself that Notre Dame is on into Europe's leading tourist destination just in time for the 2024 Olympic Games. Adds another little twist to that doesn't it?

1:15:13 Because no one wanted to turn this thing into it. I'm hoping that they rebuild the Notre Dame with kind of the front part the same, then they modify the rest of it and add—they need to add two things to make it really... especially if they're going to do what you just described which I believe is true. It's true! Is uh…add a casino? Yeah! Yes in the church! And a roller coaster around the Notre Dame Exactly. I think now that would be fantastic! I think so, yeah. Or maybe just a... you know right? I think you're right the roller coaster. Just sell the whole island to Disney. Thank You. Onward! Anyway our night continues global warming while an AOC and Macron issue seems to be losing momentum

1:16:09 I've observed more Islamic scholars rather than the born-again Muslims engaged in social media replies to hate questions and similar engagement from other religious scholars. These scholars point out the context of extracted quotes from religious references to stern debate debate. I do not believe this is just a coincidence given the pressure to regulate social media, perhaps like representative Omar's gradual shift from traditional colorful head cover toward Wahhabi subdued colors we can follow the money i expect a new enemy as being researched for global news networks." Best quote while being served in a crowded restaurant in Beijing

1:16:51 Quote too many people we need a war to fix this unquote That's a food service worker food servers workers around the world are the best source of public sentiment Probably truth, that's our animus of dog patch and lower slobobia. Thank you so much It's always so nice. He has great, it really turns this segment into content of valuable proportions. It's total content because he gives us a report! Yeah that's fantastic We don't know who he is or what he does but obviously travels a lot and... And it's always appreciated thank you so much, Sir Animas Onward to Don Tommaso Di Tomato, Toronto. Di Tomato? Kettleby Ontario 34567

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Homelessness Crisis, West Coast Urban Decay

A discussion on the worsening homelessness and drug addiction crisis in cities like Vancouver, Seattle, and Austin. The hosts attribute the decay to local district attorneys who allow camping on public land and fail to address open drug use. They argue that "affordable housing" promises are often used as political leverage for unrelated projects like soccer stadiums.

vancouver· dallas· austin· homelessness· drug addiction

1:17:38 Greetings, John and Aspen. It's been a while since my last donation He needs to de-douching You've been de-douche'd He's gonna be in Seattle today the 2nd And I'll try to invade The Seattle meetup Oh good To bring Candanavian cheer I thought it said order To the Pacific Northwest proletariat No jingles, no commas Yeah...I think you tweeted this video out too about Was it Edmonton? In Canada, the guy he took...he went behind like the it looked like Los Angeles or San Francisco basically just tents people living in the parks. No no that's Vancouver Was that Vancouver? I think this is just... I think its Hastings Street This is happening all over the world Well mostly on the West Coast

1:18:28 I mean, it is happening all over the world but the West Coast has got the worst case scenarios. Dallas will be next by the way because of their new district attorney. Do you think that it's just...because what happens is and I think that this now even under review to just make lots of cities are saying oh we'll just make all public land you can camp on if your homeless Yes, this is the district local district attorneys are making these decisions and they're allowing the cities to deteriorate. Dallas will be next and you may be right my thinking is why if no one cares anymore and said that do whatever you want there was at one point I don't know if it's like a zeitgeist movie way back in the day and had an animation of how money works and how money's created and how its all basically debt and it's just fictitious and the Federal Reserve and hot works

1:19:24 But eventually in that system, and they have a kind of like a Rube Goldberg machine. And you see people who just drop off who just can't participate anymore and they kinda fly off the end there into a heap! And thats literally happening. There's no help for these people. There is no future even though the biggest problem they have is probably drugs. I think your thinking of idiocracy? It was similar Well, that's where they're flying off the end of a freeway and just piling up. Yeah it's not similar to that but yeah That's the same idea these people fall off and then no one cares about them step over them Just step over him anyway Well this is something that's going on that needs some sort of understanding because its drugs It's drugs man if people are on meth and on other... They're all on drugs But the point is why don't they you know?

1:20:17 Why isn't anyone helping? I don't know if they're doing this on purpose to say here's what drugs, legalized drugs are gonna end up with this. Look at this mess that we've created it is all your fault you liberals or you libertarians It's already here in Austin We had the entire underpass of 35 every under pass of 35 people are living there right next to the new Google building that's going up downtown There's another bridge people smoking meth and crack underneath And it's just, this is right near the library. Same story and it's just allowed nothing is done except say yes yes affordable housing we need affordable housing if you let us put up the soccer stadium we promise will build affordable housing right over there they don't care I know where's the guy with the dome who can be mayor of Austin that guy bring him back well it's a situation that needs to be addressed

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Listener Donations, Wedding Congratulations

An anonymous $333 donation from Ontario includes congratulations to Adam Curry on his upcoming wedding. The contributor requests "karma" for health and jobs while praising the show's media deconstruction. John Dvorak reflects on his past at PC Magazine and the value of the No Agenda community's support.

tina· adam curry· john dvorak· jobs karma· pc magazine

1:21:11 say the least. Anonymous follows up here with $333, which I believe was the...I had one $333 thing listed on there at the end of that newsletter and I think this is it. One we got one he's also in Ontario which is well you know if I hit the right button that wouldn't be bouncing all over the place but he says and he's in Toronto It's a great pleasure that I finally send this anonymous note to make long overdue donation. Let me straighten this out so we can... Okay, it's great pleasure and finally the non-so long overdue donations to the greatest podcast in universe my smoking hot wife hit me in the mouth a few years ago that's nice and I've been hooked ever since excellent you guys do an outstanding job and the social service you provide is second to none

1:22:12 I love your media deconstruction. You can no longer stomach the news media's often one-sided propaganda you give it our amygdalas healthy, you keep them healthy through your twice weekly dose of sanity." It's better than a vaccine! And by the way, our retired Marine has also put sanity on his little note there. Thank you. Let me check... Adam, congratulations on your impending nuptials. Oh yes thank you! My wife and I were delighted to hear of your engagement we're so happy that you both found each other We made our day... It made our day when we heard John and Mimi would be in attendance on your wedding day Made our day too To be honest Tina is incredibly excited that you're coming Moist John What did you just say?

1:23:02 You're the one that said it. I brought it up at the last show! This is the woman I'm going to marry, what's wrong with you Dvorak? Alright let's talk it out to old age... Why are women always excited they're excited and then you said that insult Now this was such an insult she was generally excited She could not believe that the man who I spend a lot of time with Is going to be joining us! I've met her we've chatted You're not gonna outlive this one. This is coming, this will boomerang back at you bro. Bro. I'm sorry, I apologize for the bad karma. John i'm glad to see that PC magazines and neptis was acknowledged in the Mueller report

1:23:50 Which was right in there, I remember. I saw that in there. People are tweeting- I'm sorry that PC Magazine wasn't able to see the value that The No Agenda community sees in you Can I please request a karma trifecta of jobs karma health karma and by the way if I was working at CNN I would have been kicked out too same thing Oh hell yeah health karma, new home karma for my family. A lot of karmas. D-dushing would be appreciated since this is my first donation through though my wife did make a donation in my name for my birthday I'm not sure that counts yes it does now the donations field has been broken and this can become a more regular occurrence thank you both for all that you do and hope that you both continue to enjoy making the outstanding product you do without you guys

1:24:33 Manning the helm we'd all be overboard. Thank you very much this is a very kind of you I'm going to give him a deduce You've been jobs jobs and jobs let's go Karma there you go thank you so much to associate executive producer sir Chris ruddy This donation is in memory of my son who, unlike me was actually named Ben. He was born emergently on March 4th 2018 with congenital heart defect and died January 2nd despite many open-heart surgeries which included a heart transplant in October. It's $1 for every day he was alive please wish him a happy birthday." Yes and let me just make sure we have that on the list

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Sir Timothy, Baron of the Upper Peninsula

Sir Timothy of the No Fixed Title donated $201.01, reaching the $3,000 threshold to become the Baron of the Upper Peninsula in Michigan. He plans to assign honorary titles at a meetup in Flint. The hosts promote the "No Agenda Meetups" website as a successful community-driven discovery tool.

sir timothy· michigan· flint· meetups· barony

1:25:27 Oh, that yellow better be. Sir Chris Ruddy Eagle Scout Systems Admin and Baronet Yes thank you so much I'm sorry Sorry that's terrible Let me just check and double-check Yes okay got it he's on good Sir Timothy of the No Fixed Title $201 ITM John and Adam Sir Timothy of the no fixed title here this donation Rockets Me past three thousand dollars for my barony Beautiful Roxas, wow. I claim the upper peninsula for my protectorate until a baron or baroness emerges in Michigan who lives in that area full time." Now anybody who knows this area knows that ain't gonna happen

1:26:16 So he's got a good bet going on here. Now we'll get a note from some nasty person living in Edsilla. Until then, I hold it in trust with the person who does live up there and bitches about this comment they better become barren then. With my newfound rank, I can't wait to assign honorary titles for sheriffs and magistrates in the meetup in Flint this Saturday Instead of jingles, please put this link to our no agenda local one email list sign up from the show notes And he's got a thing here. We can put in the show notes. Let me do that right now Otherwise I'll forget okay Yeah Now I hope you guys at local one are using no agenda meetups calm to help generate more people to come to these things and

1:27:05 I think you might be surprised how effective it is. Because a lot of the thing with meetups.com was just a crappy site that really wasn't, I don't even know what the point of it was. You can do these sites yourself and that's what we've done. And actually I wanted to call out Daniel Tomasz. No agenda meetups calm because this is how our value for value model works people do things for the show your producers after all so Daniel created no agenda meetups comm has been working with Mimi and The site is flying. There's lots of meat us We'll talk about those in the next break sir Timothy of the no fixed title two hundred one dollars and one cent

CHAPTER 26 / 47 Discussion

Michael Janosky, L. Ewing Donations

Michael Janosky and L. Ewing provided donations for "de-douching" and jobs karma. Ewing is currently refitting a sailboat in Mexico to sail around the world and requested "passage karma." The hosts discuss the technical process of posting the show and the importance of listener credits.

michael janosky· pittsburgh· l. ewing· mexico· sailboat

1:27:43 ITM John and Adam Sir Timothy the no fix title here this donation rockets me past three. Oh, I just read that one of my think uh-huh Yeah, you're gonna let me go. I like that Michael Michael Janoski pronounced Janosky You're batting a thousand Dora Pennsylvania 200 Thanks for this show I find myself hitting the refresh button in my podcast app again and again and again and again when 4 p.m Hits the show hits on show days oh, that's interesting well We try to get this shot as fast as humanly possible usually it's about what 40 minutes 30 30 minutes closer to 30 yeah i've been timing it By time it gets fully posted it might be 40 minutes because there's a big file of

1:28:36 Yeah, well the show is ready to go because we don't edit anything. We just you know except for the beginning and maybe just chop off you know just tighten it up And but then it's the, it's all the credits. Make sure we get those right because people are very particular. We have to pick the art. You have to come up with a title and then I...and usually John is ready to go and let me do all of the work but I always say like hey so tell me what are the kids doing? He goes off on some story you know like oh just its fun listening to John while I'm doing all the rest. I am just your entertainment. Ah! You are my entertainment This automatic download check just takes too long for my patience. I've been a long running douchebag, please de-douche me with this donation. You've been de-douched! Signing up for the layaway plan... I will unfortunately miss the Pittsburgh meetup and hope all of success to the folks going. Please grant me jobs karma. I'm looking for the next step in my career hoping that karma can do its magic FOR ME

1:29:38 And that was from Michael Janosky. Thank you very much jobs jobs jobs and jobs Let's go for a job karma You remember where the Jobs Jobs Jobs is vote for jobs comes from it was very early It was Obama time wasn't it? There was no bomb about what it was early, Obama Yeah, what was the point save or create a cap-and-trade bill? Oh Oh, I thought it was just about the same. We saved or created jobs? I remember that no, this is the cap and trade bill that really that's where Gohmert came out and said crap in trade. Yeah, a long time ago. And the bill That's when both boner was still the speaker of the house. He had thing he says we just got this last night at midnight on it.

1:30:35 And she goes out and says, we got to vote for it because of jobs. Jobs, jobs or did somehow is going to create jobs? Yeah. Inspectors cause all that all your houses with foam and shoe was terrible government jobs. Beautiful, terrible, but it did produce one thing in one thing great I have to say Pelosi jingle. Thank you cap crap and trade a lion L Ewing his next on the list from parts unknown And he says, thanks for the passage. Thanks for the passage karma to move my sailboat sideways from San Jose del Cobo Mexico to Southern California. Well in Mexico your show was the only source of news

1:31:18 The passage took longer than planned because I did not get a de-douching for my first donation. What? Can i get a de-douching this time and some jobs karma? Yes, of course you can! You've been de-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Wait he says sideways is yacht Sailboat is being refitted to sail around the world. So he's gonna go on a no Karma for sure what he needs is he needs an APRS Transmitter so we can follow him so we can follow him. Oh, that'd be great Yeah You should do that let up a balloon from time to time with a wire or something like that and we can follow transponder kind of And they all listen to this show coincidentally yeah, that's right

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Esmeralda Gack, Loveline Podcast Plug

Esmeralda Gack from Wisconsin donated $200 toward her Damehood and requested a plug for "superfangiovanni.com," a site hosting classic Loveline podcast episodes. She also requested jobs karma for her husband in the electrical trade. The segment concludes the first round of executive producer credits for Episode 1134.

esmeralda gack· loveline· superfangiovanni· wisconsin· damehood

1:32:14 Esmeralda Gack in Ripon, Wisconsin is last on our list of 200 bucks. And she wrote a note in it's curiously my squirrel mail search feature has not worked. It's gone belly up! You think if you looked up... If you put in GACK... Okay I already got it, I got it, I got it. I hope I didn't request too much if I did just the de-douching check and the jobs karma She did two separate donations, started with a $50-a-month subscription and made it one time $200 donation. Dear esteemed guardians, no you get the full tilt here Esmeralda. ITM and thank you for your courage, the full tilt? What does that even mean? ITM and thank you for your courage this show is invaluable to my mental health insanity Thursdays and Thursdays are my favorite days of the week. That's good.

1:33:17 Yeah, Thursdays and Thursdays. So a deep thank you is in order please keep up the great work as long as you can before it starts to impact your own health and sanity this is actually good for our health. This is how we stay sane thank you that's exactly right Do it for the good of the society and mankind overall, and keep the lights on, of course. Well as long we keep the lights on. The lights can't be kept on because lack of help then that's how it ends. Please de-do, well or that or the government. Please de-douche me I've only once donated when I mailed you a card in three dollars cash. I still hope cash is king. You've been de-douched!

1:34:01 Please do a douchebag check for producers who were brought to no agenda in recent years, especially in the Trump era by the podcast Pod Gods with Z. Zed as she puts it. Hold on. With host Geo and Lax. I have it here. There's your douche bag check! I don't really know how a douchebag check works, she writes. Especially if people are on a subscription under 50. I'm guessing they email you guy anonymously. I hope I'm doing this right. I don't really know if I'm allowed this one but I'd love a plug for superfangiovanni.com. What? How do you spell that? S-U-P-E-R F-A-N G-I-O Fangio V-A-N-N-I

1:34:56 where you can find what used to be the classic Loveline podcast. For anyone who used to listen to it on Podcast One, it's now called Get It On! All your podcast players at superfangiovanni.com unnecessary backstory below. Go podcasting! Jobs karma for my smoking hot husband who is currently looking for a new job in electrical trade and central Wisconsin whose recent inheritance, inheritance is funding my Damehood. I hit him in the mouth regularly and he's actually a big fan but has yet to listen to an entire episode

1:35:36 I guess it gets bored. Hmm, I have to elaborate and explain things till when we get together Which is or when we listen together which is the only time he listens but since he's paying my donations I can't truly call him a douchebag Sorry for the long note and thank you for the immeasurable value to bring into my life on a day-to-day basis Long-winded liberal occasionally friendly troll in future Dame s me as may as May as May as May beautiful From Rippon. Well, thank you. She goes on with some other details. That was it right? Yeah Good list! Thank you and some familiar faces there who always come in to save the day sometimes once every half year sometimes once a month sometimes every quarter It doesn't matter is exactly how the value for value system works I gave her some karma Oh well i'm sorry she also needed jobs karma didn't she yeah yes you're right Yes I gotcha Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:36:35 All right, that's a group of associate and executive producers for Show 1134. Yes, thank each and every one of them for making this show possible And these credits are real valuable where accepted you can put them on all kinds of places people seem to Seem to add it to their social media handles or to the names at least that are displayed put it on there LinkedIn You can probably say executive producer or associate executive producer producer of the no agenda show episode 1134 you could even add in parens according to the mall report the best podcast in the universe and You can support us for our next Thursday show on Sunday Devorah org slash n a I think you've got enough deconstruction to hit the water cooler and propagate Our formula is this we go out. We get people in the mouth

CHAPTER 28 / 47 Discussion

Scientology Cruise Ship, Measles Quarantine

A cruise ship owned by the Church of Scientology, the Freewinds, was quarantined in St. Lucia due to a measles outbreak. Health officials prevented 300 passengers and crew from disembarking after a female crew member was diagnosed. The hosts discuss the "fear-mongering" statistics provided by media outlets like CNBC regarding the virus's contagiousness.

church of scientology· st. lucia· measles· sea org· quarantine

1:37:49 Hey, I wanted to talk briefly about the measles and the MMR vaccine Yeah, where's our jingle do we have a vaccine jingle? No. Oh, yeah, you're saying hey producers Where is our vaccine jang Jingle is that what you're doing? Obviously a measles specifically. Yeah, I don't think we have anything now The reason why I'm following this has been in the in the early days of this show I caught a financial conference. It was JP Morgan or something, you know some of these outfits and they have all the analysts and everyone comes over and they talk about how great their company is going to do And the pharmaceutical guys...I don't know if it was Merck specifically but as the pharma guys were showing these it was a pharmaceutical conference That's what it was

1:38:37 We're all kind of showing the same PowerPoints and I might even have those somewhere still but they're publicly available on their website. They're not hiding it, and the big bonanza the big boom was going to be vaccines. Vaccines is where it's at! And we did have a real odd period...I don't know if you remember? Where they had coming out with vaccines against smoking all kinds of things which they called it a vaccine It's like that's really odd but okay So then, you know anything they could they just labeled vaccine and it died down a bit And you know we've had the anti-vaxxer controversies and we've had no kind of bubbling along. And now this measles is Is really yeah is really cropping up again? And this is the latest news came out just Just recently Interesting story here A cruise ship has been quarantined in the Caribbean

1:39:29 A, Liz. Why? And B whose ship is it? Measles outbreak its reports are now crossing right now it's happening now owned by the Church of Scientology off of St Lucia 300 passengers and crew have been told by officials in St Lucia the Caribbean island do not leave because a female passenger has measles measles can be contracted via coughing it can go airborne via sneezing one person can infect up to 18 other people. This boat was supposed to leave on Thursday, so the passenger crew told your did you ask me to stop? Yeah. Oh I'm sorry didn't hear you yelling. I only yell at once one person can infect 18 people see that was her stat 18 specifically 18 not 19 not 90 not thousands No just one I guess that's all yeah

1:40:27 What, where does that number come from? I'm suspicious when i hear something like that. It's CNBC man they know their numbers. One person can infect up to 18 other people this boat was supposed to leave on Thursday... I think what she is saying if you sneeze in the air the droplets No she never said that one person can affect up to eighteen other people so if im got measles and kiss a hundred people only eighteen will get it Only eighteen will get it All 18 of them men. Measles can be contracted via coughing, it can go airborne via sneezing one person can infect up to eighteen other people this boat was supposed to leave on Thursday so the passenger crew told you're not allowed to disembark but that the boat can leave port it is not being prevented from leaving port if it wants to leave so that's the issue right now. Stop again!

1:41:25 Is there any producers or anybody that works at this network that can, you can't leave but you can disembark? The ship could leave. The ship could leave the port but people couldn't leave the ship Okay, the boat can leave port it is not being prevented from leaving port if it wants to leave So that's the issue right now highly contagious The virus can go airborne It stays in the air one hour after somebody coughs and you can catch it If those droplets are hanging in the air will stay on this story for the ship is owned by the Church of Scientology I got it. Check those down so love that I didn't know that is that this must be the Sea Org Oh

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NPR, Brady Bunch Measles Episode Controversy

NPR reported on the use of a 1969 Brady Bunch episode by anti-vaccination groups to suggest measles is a minor illness. Actress Maureen McCormick, who played Marcia Brady, expressed anger that her image was being used to promote anti-vaccine sentiments. The hosts critique NPR's framing and the media's focus on a decades-old sitcom episode.

npr· brady bunch· maureen mccormick· vaccines· anti-vaxxers

1:42:07 I would think. Maybe they have more than one boat, but if you were a clear and got on this boat you couldn't get sick. Oh John come on it's just saying again religious nuts whether your orthodox Jew nut or scientific Scientology nut Oh, you don't get vaccinated probably. I don't even know what the rule is with Scientology. There's a subtle message here we don't have. Subtle? It's not subtle! It's pretty in your face now... A month ago no longer than a month. Those diseased Scientologists Religious nut jobs Don't get anti-vaxxers So a month ago almost to the day when this how long we've been following this This uptick I played The Brady Bunch episode when the Bradys all got measles

1:42:58 And that was kind of funny because it's the way I remember getting measles and then their whole thing was, you know what? Don't have to go to school. That's why little Billy is smiling and everyone's all happy about it. No, and Alice got the measles! Well... You can imagine that once someone got a hold of our great clips Then it really pissed off NPR. Are you sure it's the measles? The Brady Bunch episode, Is There a Doctor in the House?, came out in 1969 Well he certainly got all the symptoms A slight temperature, a lot of dots and a great big smile! A great big smile No school for a few days All six Brady kids come down with the measles Stay home from school and play board games together

1:43:40 Boy, this is the life isn't it? Yeah. If you have to get sick you sure can beat the measles That's right! No medicine Inside or out Like shots I mean Don't even mention shots! Yuck People who are critical of vaccines bring up the episode often like Dr Tony Bark who testifies against vaccines in courts and public hearings across the country So what do former cast members think about their show being used as evidence measles isn't such a big deal Actress Maureen McCormick played Marsha as a teen. She says she found out a few months ago that an anti-vaccination Facebook group was circulating memes of her with the measles from that episode. She was furious.

1:44:25 people's images today. What she is really pissed off about is she got a dumb deal back in the day, has very low if any residuals and it was like well they're using my face to promote something I'm not making money! That episode...she was furious. I think its really wrong when people use um peoples images today to promote whatever they want to promote You know, as a mother. My daughter was vaccinated and she says she got the measles as a kid before the vaccine was introduced It was nothing like The Brady Bunch episode She got really sick Lloyd J Schwartz is the son of Sherwood Too bad they didn't have any clip of her saying that herself but we'll just take in PR's word for it Was nothing like The Brady Bunch episode She got really sick

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HPV Vaccine, Fifth Disease Comparison

The hosts discuss their personal vaccination statuses and challenge "pro-vaxxers" to get the HPV vaccine before criticizing others. They also explore "Fifth Disease" (slap-cheek), a viral rash caused by Parvovirus B19, noting the lack of a human vaccine for it despite its similarity to measles. The discussion centers on the selective nature of vaccine mandates and public health priorities.

hpv vaccine· fifth disease· parvo virus· smallpox· shingles

1:45:12 Lloyd J. Schwartz is the son of Sherwood Schwartz, Brady Bunch creator who passed away in 2011. Everyone who caught the measles in the Brady Bunch was fine by the next episode and most people who catch measles in 2019 will be fine too once they recover But that's not always the case. The virus can cause pneumonia, in severe cases brain swelling and deafness." You will die! So yes of course... And I want to reiterate we're at we're semi-vaxxers. I've had my vaccinations, my daughter's had her vaccinations but i think you can overdo it a little bit? Well I'm gonna say this..I was thinking about this

1:45:54 Because I've been called out as a vaxxer when i'm not. Oh yeah, I hate it when... I have an anti-vaxxers smallpox vaccine in me! Damn you're really old. Which nobody else does. No one has that one anymore. Then I would advise you if you're going to call me out, go get an HPV vaccination. Yes! If you're all in on this, go get a HPV vaccine because it does prevent genital... well certain number of genitals cancer and boys. You can say it to men and women. Yeah so I recommend particularly go get this vaccine but look it up before you go get the vaccine. Look at the little details on its side effects

1:46:37 Since you're all in on this go get that vaccine unless you get that vaccine You got nothing to say to me because if you're not gonna get that vaccine then you're in the same boat I am. Your a semi-vaxxer here, you can't start to condemn Me unless you get the HPV vaccine and if they go get that fine, you can yell and scream There's also um, I got a very interesting note from someone That the uh...that a lot of this The measles scare could also be related to fifths disease, which I had not heard of and it has very similar symptoms. Have you ever heard of this fifth? No! Fifth's disease? All ears go. Hold on... Go, go! Yeah yeah yeah, go go! I'm looking up the damn Wikipedia page.

1:47:24 I had it and I just had the click on the fifth like fifth if Maybe this guy's got musical issues. He can't keep a beat Fifth disease erythema infectio some or fifth disease is one of several possible manifestations of infections by parovi Parvo virus be 19 vote yes, what is a parvo? Well that's like a dog virus The name fifth disease comes from its place on the standard list of rash causing childhood diseases, which also includes measles That's first scarlet fever second. No one talks about that rubella third Dukes disease but is Really? No one knows has ever seen that one And six is roseola but fifth is the fifth disease and you look at these kids It's also known as was it slap cheek because it looks like your cheek has been slapped amongst all the dots

1:48:20 Anyway, I don't why is there no vaccine for this it looks just as shitty. That's the same type There is a vaccine for parvo for dogs Okay, well that perfect opportunity to start giving it to humans because let's check in with Wall Street Earnings coming out this morning Let's start with Eli Lilly looked like kind of a mixed quarter and you can kind of see that in the trading this morning Eli Lilly trading down a little bit there moving along to Pfizer That one coming in beaten race for new CEO Albert Bourla. This is his first quarter as CEO of the company started January 1st Pfizer did 8.9 billion dollars in stock buybacks in the quarter they've got another more than 5 billion dollars and share repurchases authorized so they've been spending a lot of their cash there but everybody's always wondering about M&A for them I will round it up with Merck that one coming in a beat as well as you just detailed earlier they're setting growth and oncology and vaccines there and oncology, of course, their major drug is Keytruda

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Merck Earnings, MMR Vaccine Demand

Merck reported strong quarterly earnings, citing increased demand for the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine in the US and Europe. The hosts suggest that pharmaceutical companies benefit financially from measles outbreaks and the resulting public fear. They predict a future requirement for travelers to prove MMR vaccination status before entering the United States.

merck· pfizer· eli lilly· mmr vaccine· stock buybacks

1:49:11 huge immunotherapy cancer drug coming in at $2.27 billion, that was actually slightly less than what analysts were looking for but you do see the stock up 2.7% in the early market one more thing to note on Merck they make the MMR vaccine that's the measles mumps rubella vaccine and they cited growth there for their pediatric vaccine business because of higher demand in the US and Europe so we'll see whether that continues with the current outbreak guys Oh, yeah. Let's see if it continues or I hope it continues because the stocks will go up." So they beat earnings surprise surprise makers of the MMR vaccine so now if we just put ourselves...I think we have a show assumption that a lot of what's happening with vaccines and how they are portrayed is for profit motives why would be any different than any other branch of the big pharmaceutical industry except this has been put into our heads as fear you'll die

1:50:06 What could we do? I think i mentioned one or two shows ago that if we have these outbreaks in you know this, in the Netherlands which they see it and other EU countries are talking about it. Of course now with every state and it's all the look at all these people to cruise ship Do we not have a global outbreak? Are we not all going to die if I was running Merck, I'd be pushing towards that and i'd be doing it in this manner. Dr James Goodson at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta says the U.S measles cases are direct result of outbreaks abroad When we see large measles outbreaks in other countries that are common... Can I just have to stop this for second? I look at all kinds of certainly European news

1:50:48 Did not see this start in Europe. It started in the US and I Read every single day, I didn't see measles Vaccination calls and fear-mongering pop up until well after this started here when we see large Measles outbreaks and other countries that are common destinations for travelers from the u.s That's when we often see the largest number of measles cases in the U.S., like we're seeing this year." Madagascar is grappling with a measles outbreak that sickened 70,000 people and killed more than 1,000. Ukraine had similar numbers of cases. There are ongoing measles outbreaks in the Philippines, India, Romania, Brazil and Venezuela. There have been smaller flare-ups in popular vacation destinations like France, Greece and Israel. And it's unvaccinated travelers who are the problem

1:51:41 They're the ones who are bringing the virus into the US. The only reservoir for measles virus is people, so the only way you're going to get measles is if you come in contact with somebody who's infected with measles I guarantee you that next phase of this rollout is you have to be able to prove that you've had your MMR shot before you can enter the United States of America and that will be for citizens and non-citizens alike You can just see it coming That's a moneymaker. It's a huge money maker, so now I don't know what Merck is at but this is where we would want to buy some Merck stock but they still have to get the regulators or it doesn't have to be a law they can just do it through Homeland Security they can say yeah new rule you got to be able to show... Somebody marketing guy at Merck would be getting a lot of handshakes and high-fives

1:52:34 And a big bonus. Give me a big bonus bill right at the end of the year because it's coming your way fantastic Yeah, anyway But I have a feeling we may so I think you're right there going to bring the meanwhile good idea I'll just stay healthy with the Jambo Joe's little gift box Did you get one from from Joe Joe winky our guys over here with the spray? The jam but yeah the spray this spray is so first of all he's a jambo and He sent the Solve again. The... what do you call it? Yeah, Solve. And that's so good if you have hands pain in your hands or your back or anywhere really just muscle pain any kind of joint pain but then he has these sprays which is I don't know 500 milliliters of THC in a bottle with a peppermint These guys have got a good idea

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Disease Transmission, Border Security Claims

A discussion on claims from right-wing talk radio that diseases like tuberculosis, measles, and leprosy are being brought into the US via illegal immigration from Mexico. The hosts explore the historical context of leper colonies and the curability of leprosy in the modern era. This segment links public health concerns to the ongoing border security debate.

tuberculosis· leprosy· mexico· illegal immigration· right-wing radio

1:53:30 Man, I've been around. Two sprays of that is enough for me. Yeah. Oh-ho! He had a booster get a third one it can't hurt. This is literally what they're saying It's just distilled water anyway So now let me give another strategy to the politicians. I would say Trump could do this and any Republican could use this strategy Where do you think these measles are coming from? Illegal immigrants! Well that's a... That's what I'd be saying. Thank you for the idea that the right-wing talk radio guys have brought out months back. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't listen to that. But why do you? You should. Why do you have to be so sarcastic? Oh, I'm just a sarcastic guy. Okay. I'm concerned about something. What are you concerned about? Stop. What are you concerned about? No, I'm not gonna say what I'm concerned about. You'll find out later. The uh..I would say this

1:54:28 that this idea has already been brought forward. Also, TB, tuberculosis, uncurable TB is coming in from Mexico. Measles is coming in from Mexico. Leprosy. They just... leprosy? Well- Oh! That would be cool to bring that back. I threw that in but that's a good one. Leprosy is out there. Yes We must have a doctor that can tell us how to cure it. I forgot what happens if we get it. How do you get leprosy? How to cure leprosy, I thought it was incurable No no leprosy is very curable otherwise would be the leper colonies still Well look we do have Steiner Ranch here in Austin but I don't know well that could be a leopard colony But we don't know for sure All right let's talk about Venezuela for a moment

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Venezuela Coup Attempt, CIA Involvement

The recent failed coup attempt in Venezuela led by Juan Guaidó is analyzed as a "botched" CIA operation. The hosts point to the use of brand-new uniforms, American equipment, and purple armbands as evidence of mercenary and intelligence involvement. They compare the failure to the Bay of Pigs and criticize the use of 1950s-era regime change tactics in the age of social media.

venezuela· juan guaido· nicolas maduro· cia· mike pompeo

1:55:21 Let's see you surely you have some clips. I've got a couple of things nothing on Venezuela I did have something and I didn't keep it because It was just this guy going on about there was a coup against me And I still here standing and now that then they get this new guy they're introducing some third guy Yeah, okay? No. I'm gonna be sites Guaido. I'm gonna pick it up right there Okay So first of all shame on The neocons who are doing this, Bolton Pompeo God knows who else. You guys are playing the game from the 80s and 90s

1:56:01 It's so easy now for anyone with half a brain and some friends on the internet to see, oh Guido is there and he has troops and these guys have brand new uniforms with the creases still in the side. You got fat Americans walking around underneath their clothing they've got armor on you've got guys wearing their American helmets we've got M16 rifles, you know all the wrong equipment for what they would have there. We're not stupid and of course because of the internet Not only do we know this stuff but the disinformation gets way beyond what you guys can do You cannot control it They can't control it anymore because typically in a wag-the-dog scenario All you need is that they had the camera It's all been this line are you cuz you're talking to somebody?

1:56:56 Are you talking to the intelligence community? No, I'm talking to the military. Okay. Military intelligence and let me tell you on the ground boots on the ground boys and girls who are deployed they're sick and tired of it they do not want to deploy they don't want another phony war... It's becoming a problem They see it too. It's like this is bullshit I don't want to go there So what did they do in this old wag the dog situation? They got up on an overpass That's where all the professional video you saw which is pretty much have you seen a whole bunch of

1:57:32 Selfie cam stuff. Now, Manly was shot from the bridge... ...from the overpass You see an armored vehicle drive over people It could have been anyone in that They both have access to that But it's really a small crowd of guys up there And its obvious they even had the purple band Hey don't shoot me I'm one of the good guys on my purple band Its so... and its... This is all mercenaries but wait let me finish So you'd show videos of some smoke and some people getting roughed up, maybe a shot or two. And that used to look really scary but now we see it's just small bits of isolated occurrences and they got no traction! No one jumped up and said let's do it. They tried this was I think a serious try and it was so pathetic Well... A couple things. I think your right in every way

1:58:30 It is pathetic. I think it was a serious try, but I don't know who was behind it. I'm more inclined to think CIA. Yeah oh totally CIA! Totally But I am reminded of a clip that we played about a year ago about some ex-spook that was discussing the Guatemala takeover where planted, we took over the radio station and started giving fake reports to drive out the government because they were afraid there was thousands of troops headed their way. There was nobody coming and it was just a big bluff. And I think that's...I don't know who is behind all these things but I think they're using exactly what you said techniques and ideas that are from the 50s. Yes from the 50s yeah. The 50s! I'm not talking about the 60s

1:59:21 They're using ideas from the 50s and they learn nothing from Syria. They learned nothing from Iraq, which was given the green light because we're really welcomed with open arms and they're going to be cheering us as we waltzed into Baghdad which never happened. We always forget about that one all the military experts in the spooks were all talking about oh we're gonna They're gonna welcome our, cheering and parades for us as we, as our tanks roll into Baghdad. This is going back to what the 40s? When we took over, when came into Paris having taken the Nazis out this is so pathetic and so old fashioned and I don't know what they can do about it because for one thing they can't get anybody into these positions of

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Mike Pompeo, Wolf Blitzer Venezuela Interview

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that Nicolás Maduro was prepared to flee to Cuba until Russia intervened. Pompeo characterized Russian and Cuban support for the Maduro regime as "unacceptable." The hosts express skepticism toward these claims, suggesting the administration is struggling to explain the lack of traction for the opposition.

mike pompeo· wolf blitzer· cnn· nicolas maduro· russia

2:00:14 influence that know anything about social media. They're in Washington DC! Yeah, well so first of all... This is the biggest botch we have to call it what it is this is a huge botch this is on the Bay of Pigs level. Well its involves a lot of the same players coincidentally and And again, CIA Pompeo is running the op. He's an ex-CIA guy and he dropped in to talk with Brolf about everything. You've seen the violence on the streets of Caracas and elsewhere certainly looks like Maduro is not going to go without a significant fight so here's the question what specifically is the United States prepared to do if Maduro arrests Guaido? I'm not gonna get into specifics but we've made very clear where would consider that

2:01:06 a major escalation. Wolf, we've watched throughout the day it's been a long time since anyone has seen Maduro he had an airplane on the tarmac he was ready to leave this morning as we understand it and the Russians indicated that he should stay We think the situation remains incredibly fluid. We know that there were senior leaders inside the Maduro government that were prepared to leave, they told us as much over the past few weeks and we're convinced that the Venezuelan people are going to get their democracy back. So if you say he was getting ready to head over to the airport and the Russians talked him out of it are the Russians responsible now for what's going on?

2:01:44 we've made clear all along that uh... that maduro surrounded by cubans and has been supported by russians there in venezuela i'm we've told the russians and we've told the cubans how that's unacceptable it's unacceptable to start people so acceptable a six children not to be able to get their mouth of the nations of the region of the lemur group organization on the legal or all demanding that we get democracy restored and that week get dignity back to this once great nation. It's a country that has the capacity for great wealth and the United States is prepared to stand with the Venezuelan people, to support uh... the interim government, to help a free and fair election take place and then to build back this country

2:02:23 I am so against this. Now, I understand we can't have a Cuba situation where we've got missiles within range of Washington DC let's just make it what it is and Trump either he's focused on something else and like oh Michael take care of it whatever it is This is this is an impeachable offense for allowing this bullshit to continue and it's People are not stupid anymore Trump may understand that that he can reach people with his Twitter But he also has to tell them what's going on in some terms that they can understand because now we're just finding out for ourselves, and it's bullshit what's going on? And as I've discovered

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Leopoldo Lopez, Venezuelan Political History

Leopoldo López, a Harvard-educated politician, is identified as the real power behind Juan Guaidó. A 2014 report from Democracy Now is used to detail López's history with the "far right" and his family's alleged corruption involving Venezuela's oil company. The hosts argue the conflict is primarily about control over Venezuela's massive oil reserves and drug trafficking routes.

leopoldo lopez· juan guaido· harvard· bolivarian revolution· democracy now

2:03:11 Guido is just the beginning. That's just the front man that's just he's never going to be in charge his only job is to bring Leopoldo Lopez back and that's the big news from this botch and this debacle as Leopoldo Lopez was brought out with Guido And this is the guy who was supposed to do it, but I think they completely failed That's why you see Guido like go You know with his like eight people around him going yeah, whatever bro because he could not capture the attention but I'm gonna tell you who Leopoldo Lopez is as we go back to 2014 your favorite show democracy now Who is Leopoldo Lopez? The Washington Post describes him as a 42 year old Harvard educated left-leaning moderate What do you know about this history?

2:04:05 Left-leaning moderate would be quite a stretch. Leopoldo López represents the far right of the Venezuelan political spectrum in terms of his personal and political history here's someone who is educated in the United States from prep school through graduate school at Harvard Kennedy School he descended from the first president of Venezuela purportedly even from Simón Bolívar, In other words he's representative of this traditional political class that was displaced when the Bolivarian revolution came to power power in terms of his very specific political history, his first party that he came to power as a representative of, Primero Justicia was formed at the intersection of corruption and U.S. intervention. Corruption by his mother purportedly funneling funds from Venezuela's oil company into this new party and on the other hand funding from the NED, USAID, US government institutions

2:04:58 to so-called civil society organizations. Now, after—as Chavez came to power the traditional parties in Venezuela collapsed and both the domestic opposition and the U.S. government needed to create some other vehicle through which to oppose the Chavez government. And this party that Leopoldo López came to power through is one of those vehicles. So this is really where he's coming from. In this moment, though, even his former compatriot from that party Enrique Capriles who was the unified presidential candidate for the opposition in April has realized that the line of taking street action in an attempt to oust a democratic government is simply not going to work. And Leopoldo Lopez as well as other far-right leaders like Maria Corina Machado and Antonio Ledesma have really gone all in with this attempt to oust the government

2:05:48 So that's the guy you want to be looking at. That's the guy who was supposed to make it all happen, that's who Guaido brought out onto on to the streets and it failed and let's be honest this is only about turf oil and drugs lots of drugs. You can even cut it down to one thing. Just drugs. No, oil! I think drug... Oil is the largest largest reserves in the world bigger than Saudi Arabia Drugs? Bah, who cares. And for those of you who think it's just a crackpot in the buzzkill just talking about all these conspiracy theories I have one for you A United Nations report...a United Nations report just came out

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White Helmets, Staged Chemical Attacks Report

A report presented to the United Nations claims that members of the White Helmets admitted to staging fake chemical attacks in Syria to provoke Western military intervention. The report, covered by One America News, alleges that civilians were paid to play dead and use toothpaste to simulate foaming at the mouth. The hosts call for the Academy to revoke the Oscar awarded to the White Helmets documentary.

white helmets· syria· united nations· chemical attacks· one america news

2:06:34 about the white helmets in Syria. I believe we have discussed many times how it looks like they were just faking, faking, faking these gas at the sarin attacks And the only domestic news channel I could find to report on it was One America News, which has a very unprofessional read but you'll get the details. At least 40 members of the terrorist-linked White Helmets have admitted they staged fake chemical attacks... ...to provoke retaliation against the Syrian government Members of the group, who won an Oscar for their Netflix documentary came out in recent interviews for a study presented to the United Nations and confessed they had in fact faked the attacks. The Academy should take that award back! They should, why don't they? Because this report will never... Listen to the report you'll never hear about it again. Faked the attacks

2:07:33 According to Maxim Grigoryev, the director for the Foundation of the Study of Democracy... ...the White Helmets provided a detailed description of methods commonly used by their organization to fake the scenes. The admissions came after a thorough fact-finding mission carried out in Syria which uncovered numerous members of the terrorist affiliated group as well dozens other actors who took part in the fake attacks Grigoriev explained the participants were often innocent bystanders who were taken advantage of by the White Helmets. Many were living in poverty and agreed to participate just to earn a few dollars to buy food for their families

2:08:13 A woman recounts how the White Helmets members gave her a white sheet to wrap around herself and says she was then told to lie motionless on the ground. She was even instructed to fill her mouth with toothpaste so she would appear to be choking on chemical weapons. Another man says that he was told to close his eyes and play dead while the White Helmets filmed him being taken to hospital And in Douma, the site of last year's chemical attack near Damascus a White Helmets member says that local children were given candy as reward for acting like they were sick on camera. Nice! Yeah they should have won an Oscar then. Yeah wrong category that was the documentary it should have been best acting by group or ensemble I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab

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Associate Executive Producers, Jeffrey Breyer

Baron Ladekin, Abby Venski, and Jeffrey Breyer are thanked for their donations. Breyer's $102.38 contribution is noted for being doubled to account for the "Canadian peso" exchange rate. The hosts reiterate their policy of accepting $200 in local currency for associate executive producer status from Canada and Australia.

baron ladekin· abby venski· jeffrey breyer· canada· exchange rate

2:09:05 You know, it's too bad that these people don't get a chance to listen to No Agenda. We could tell them that next time this happens they should ask for SAG minimum. Yeah! Scale scale you know they could probably get... you could get double scale for risk factor especially if your having to choke on toothpaste but most importantly they need to get in the union so they can get their retirement benefits yeah and free DVDs Baron Ladekin is at the top of our list to thank on for show 1134. He came in with $178 and 67 cents, followed by Abby Vince Venski pronounced like Venski, okay? And I should also know how to pronounce Wauwatosa Wisconsin. Abby Venski and Wauwatosa Wisconsin.

2:10:04 She says she wants to wish her very awake fiance Brad Horowitz a happy 33rd. This last Monday, thank you for keeping Brad sane with your two ex-week podcasts. Yep we will put him on the list. Vensky, Vensky. Jeffrey Breyer by the way I like these people that send little pronunciation hints It helps Well yeah if you got a name like Vensky Jeffrey Breyer $102 and 38 cents $102.38 Is this still this thing you're concerned about? What? Well, you were concerned about something and you keep mumbling about what was that I mean are you okay over there? No the mic stand...I'm unlike you I have a mic stand with a boom on it Uh-huh I guess this wasn't really shown in the picture of my studio that they put in the newsletter It was obfuscated by your ham radio rigs

2:11:05 Yes, I have plenty of them. And so there's a lot of wires on the floor and sometimes this stand gets on top of them and then it falls off. Okay. Where is Jeffrey Breyer? $102.38 Oh, and that then he says 51.19 is enough for all you guys do so I doubled it even if it's nearly 150 Canadian pesos He wants to call his brother out Kevin as a douchebag And I will remind everyone that for both the Canada and Australia We will accept $200 in your own currency as an associate executive producer ship $200 us even though you fall very short But that's the brotherly thing to do

2:11:50 Yes, because at one time their numbers were higher than ours. That's right and yes you remember during the Iraqi war? Yep And we benefited from that so we're giving back Well I don't know if he benefitted Boss Von Dreigel $100 parts on nobody's in... He is in Deutschland Keep up the amazing work Adam Adrian Ramos 84 dollars Dino Dino in Alberta Canada 75 and I do have a note And I kept this note to read because it's a little long. I'm not going to read the whole thing, maybe I will but...I just thought it was an interesting note that was written. You know when you say that and just when you say, It's a very long note uh.. I won't read it but maybe I will do you know what sound like? You sound like Trump! Sound like Trump?! When you said that, it's a very long note maybe I'll read it, maybe I won't, maybe I will. I don't know, it's just the Trump moment. Stupendous note. It closed the check for $75 Canadian which is my Alberta climate leadership adjustment rebate

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Alberta Climate Tax, Vivian Krause Report

A donor from Alberta contributed his "climate leadership adjustment rebate" to the show, sparking a discussion on Canadian energy politics. Writer Vivian Krause is cited for providing proof that US foundations, including the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, are sponsoring environmental groups to "landlock" Alberta's oil. Newly elected Premier Jason Kenney has campaigned on eliminating these taxes and investigating foreign interference.

alberta· jason kenney· climate tax· vivian krause· rockefeller brothers fund

2:12:51 It's money that Dino spent on something in Alberta. I received a check a few weeks ago and immediately thought to donate it to the best podcast in the universe where John talked about our climate tax and rebates, it inspired me to get off the couch and send it to you! Although I seriously doubt that the climate tax will save the planet. This is a great idea! I'm sure donating this rebate to The Noah Jenner Show would be healthy for my amygdala. This is a great donation idea, it's a great donation what was the amount? It was 75 Where is it? 75. Yeah, $75.80 That's your... that was his rebate check for the scam tax of climate tax. That's the new standard for Candanavian donations

2:13:39 Yeah, these rebates are paid out four times a year. So there might be more coming your way however Jason Kenney the newly elected premier of Alberta campaigned on eliminating the tax My feeling is that Kenny won't cancel the provincial tax will stop to plan Increases since the feds would just step in and taxes directly anyway so in other words these checks will keep coming and Kenny's full of crap according this guy Regarding we talked a lot about that Regarding the recent provincial election here in Alberta, the fact of the matter quote unquote is that even though the climate tax gets a lot of discussion deeper and more sinister shenanigans are afoot. A week before the election to report from the Canadian writer Vivian Krause was heavily promoted it accuses and provides proof that various climate change and environmental groups have being sponsored by American foundations and business interests

2:14:32 Their goal is to kill the Alberta energy business by landlocking our oil and gas reserves, driving down the price of a barrel of crude. No surprise to many of us but big news to others. Kenny made it part of the campaign and in his election night victory speech called out The Rockefeller Brothers Fund The Tides Foundation. Nice! Look that one up, our favorite. Lead Now and the David Suzuki Foundation and others since 2015 because we got none of this news down here since 20... well we do now Since 2015 hordes of climate crisis activists have infiltrated our provincial and federal government so I wonder is there any collusion? It may be old news now but i can get clips if you want them yes of course yeah of course we want clips

2:15:20 Yeah, if possible could we please get some jobs coming for the folks here in Alberta? We'll put it there. It's been estimated almost 130 thousand jobs related to the oil and gas industry have been lost since the NDP and the Liberal Party of Canada took over our government Here's hoping that the UCP can get our economy back on track And here's hoping that Trudeau and his Liberals Get sent packing after leadership election October this year Thanks As we say you know as we say to all the Canades I'm sorry for your challenge. I must have gotten 10 emails from people saying Trudeau is high, there's no such thing as Knades so thanks i thought it was a nickname or something but we call you knades now and...I'm sorry for your challenge Oh god alright onward um patrick oh sir Patrick coble comes in with 73 Cobell

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No Agenda Meetups, May 2019 Schedule

The hosts review the upcoming No Agenda meetup schedule for May and June 2019, including events in Seattle, Baltimore, Flint, and Brussels. They encourage listeners to use the community-built "noagendameetups.com" to organize and find local gatherings. Birthday wishes are also extended to several producers and their family members.

seattle· baltimore· flint· brussels· oklahoma city

2:20:41 Wow, old school. He really needs this job so may we ask for some jobs karma I would be so very grateful as he's getting a little bit restless hanging around the house since it was made redundant from his last job in September The mainframe jobs don't hang on trees she says lots of lots of lots of love Dame Dane Of course will do that And I'm glad everything's well with you. And while we're at it, let's talk about the meetups. We already thanked Daniel for noagentomeetups.com. We have quite the list May 2nd that would be today is the Seattle Meet Up Let us know how that goes! I wonder if they're doing it after the show? It must be... Uh, may 4th in Baltimore Maryland also the fourth Flint Michigan part one and part two

2:21:28 May 5th, the Brussels Belgium meetup. The 18th Cincinnati Ohio May 25 Eastern North Carolina and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and again on June 6 if you miss it on the 2nd another meetup in Seattle and I'm June 8 Oklahoma City go to noagendameetups.com to get all the information or start your own actually And i really want to thank everybody who all the producers who helped us with the show today good notes Good information. I like that, I like it when we have stuff to talk about during the segment and appreciate the value you're getting out of this because you're showing it us and we really appreciate that Please everyone else who didn't? You know they are less than 1% of the entire production audience go to devorek.org slash N A as requested

2:22:20 jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for John. Brand new month, the 2nd of May 2019. Here's your birthday list Sir Chris Ruddy says happy birthday of course to his son Ben. What a bit is birthday? Abby Venski happy birthday to her fiance Brad Horowitz he turned 33 on the 29th Scott McNabb will be celebrating on the 6th Samantha Holick says happy birthday to our sexy boyfriend Eric McKay and our very own Eric Bischoff from the back office says

2:23:02 Happy birthday to his smoking hot wifey, Danelle who celebrates on the 4th. Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! It was a note, I remember. Let me see if there's something that I printed... Because maybe she closed out the gap and I don't see it! Or maybe she just counted all up? I want to make sure if she had a note that we give it to her. And this would be Kim Smith now?

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Dame Money Penny, Daming Ceremony

Kim Lewis Smith is knighted as "Dame Money Penny of the Frequently Annoyed" after contributing over $1,000. The ceremony includes a "Squirrel Mail" search for her original notes and a custom jingle featuring a goat scream. Her request for "barbecued oysters and Anchor Steam" at the virtual round table is honored.

dame money penny· squirrel mail· anchor steam· reseda· spandau ballet

2:23:53 Is it Smith? Yes, S-M-I-T-H. Well let me... now you can play the jingle. Okay! That's right ladies and gentlemen we cannot do a daming without finding the appropriate notes that means we head over to the latest technology if you're in 1975 It is the one and only Squirrel Mail John C. DuBois I can get any note from that thing he could pull up any type of information yes ladies and gentlemen is the one and only Squirrel Mail This is funny because I got a bunch of Kim Smith emails, but they're uh... Ah here it is. It worked! It came under K-A-L Smith. That's good thing I looked under Smith Hi gents. I do not recall exactly when my husband hit me in the mouth But I can tell you that it was at some point prior to the show where Adam mentioned the time he nearly singed his nads

2:24:56 Well, smoking on the toilet. Oh this is long time ago! She's an old school listener I don't even remember this... I do Something you don't forget For whatever reason i do not forget things like that well neither does Adam apparently Thanks Adam she says On show 1133 my smokin' hot hubby Sir Reptitious Knight of the Marin Headlands provided a birthday 8008 donation towards my damehood Prior to the 420 birthday gift he recently informed me that all donations He's made since his knighting on show 1000 also received via an 808 donation Oh See a preoccupation here are being counted towards my dame hood now. That's just good husbanding has been happening

2:25:43 Turns out the birthday boobs donation he thought would bring me close to damehood has brought me right up to the round table. Did I mention that guy is smoking hot? Attaches my donation spreadsheet, please dame me dam money penny of the frequently annoyed." All right you ready? Here's another one get your pencil, get your pencil. Oh. I would truly enjoy barbecued oysters and anchor steam at a round table Barbecue had anchor steam on there before sirs and anchor steam. Yeah, anchor steams the finest one of the earliest of the Fabulous micro breweries fab okay small and if a jingle is in order please consider give it up for Raven Charlie Rose DNA followed by a goat scream well There's no I don't know we'll save that maybe

2:26:36 I cannot thank the both of you enough for the many hours of sanity, sanity provided for us each week. Also find that quality of the contributors or the contributions by many of the producers entertaining and inspiring. I have no doubt someone out there is reworking this Spandau Ballet song. Thanks in advance for the many triggers it will create and thank you for your courage." Kim Lewis Smith, Northern California. Alright well if you can grab your blade I'll grab mine Got it right here We'l do a special thing this time Straight from Reseda here she is Raven Tell me about this sexuality It's in your DNA

2:27:24 Thank you very much for your support of the Best Podcast in the University, amount of $1,000 or more. That gives you the opportunity to take a seat at the round table where we have all our knights and dames and I am very proud to pronounce to Kate the Dame Money Penny of The Frequently Annoyed! For you by request BBQ oysters and Ankerstein. We've got hookers and blow, rent boys and Chardonnay fun for the whole couple maybe the whole family crawfish and cane breaks we got Dr Pepper in a quick handy kebab and Persian wine red highs and red heads and rise organic macaroni and plasticizers beer and blunts cowgirls and coffin varnish bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and gerbils and of course as always

2:28:06 Mutton and Mead which everybody seems to enjoy. And thank you again Dame Moneypenny for your support of the best podcast in the universe. That's a little low, and I need to remind you go to noagenthenation.com slash rings and that is where you can give Eric The Shill all of your info will get the ring out as soon as possible. Upgrade in title today, Sir Timothy of the No Fixed Title becomes a Baron and becomes the Baron of the Upper Peninsula in Michigan. Congratulations again thank you for your aggregated support

CHAPTER 42 / 47 Discussion

License Plate Readers, Private Surveillance Data

An anonymous police officer provided information on the use of License Plate Readers (LPR) and the databases accessible to law enforcement. The discussion shifts to the rise of private LPR vendors who sell data to repossession companies and credit agencies. One host shares an anecdote about receiving a ticket at the Oakland Airport after his car was scanned by an automated system.

license plate readers· lpr· surveillance· oakland airport· repossession

2:28:48 The no agenda show cannot do it without all of you and we enjoy doing it And as John said earlier, but we'd probably also go insane if this show didn't exist So it's helpful all around and remember to support us for our other Thursday show on Sunday at Dvorak org slash any whoo Okay. Oh, I'm gonna have something here. Well, I do have a note to read okay? This is from producer anonymous I just heard show 133, yeah 1133 and would like to extend some of my knowledge on the above subject as if some standing. I actually drove one of those cars on a nightly basis in the police department that I work for in the Bay Area. Now talking about license plate readers. The title of the email. The LPR license plate reader record records

2:29:46 the plate obviously in a smaller JPEG photo and the GPS location of the hit. The data is then uploaded to the California-wide database in California, which is only accessible to law enforcement agencies. For instance if I want to access a plate as a local cop, I need legitimate reasons including a crime aka a crime investigating like fraud kidnapping domestic violence you name it reference numbers for the investigation etc What we all need to watch out for is private license plate readers Which are becoming a very real thing. That's business, that's good business! I've seen many private... yes! I'm thinking about this, that would be a good idea. There you go exit strategy. There goes that one guy who won't donate

2:30:33 I've seen many private entities going out and placing these on their properties. These private vendors then manage the data, I would assume that they have the ability to sell whatever data they may have to whomever will pay for it which definitely is not local state law enforcement at this stage of the game. Many repos credit companies etc., contract with these vendors who have their own mobile tow truck license, plate readers and mounted readers on private shopping malls business lots etc.

2:31:09 So if you had any cop questions, you can ask him. So what these guys do is apparently they go out looking for repose and dead beats and all these things that the law enforcement won't deal with because it's not their job. And so they've set up to kind of a vigilante operation. Huh? Yeah, there's so much collection. It was that you know I still don't have it they're doing here's another one somebody is doing private maybe this is done by the city of Oakland may be the city of Oakland but they go if you park your car at the Oakland Airport Your license plate every license in the whole giant parking lots are scanned looking for people that are violating anything possible Outstanding warrants if you have a expired tag this happened to me. That's why I know how does start expired tab and I end up getting a good get come back from my trip, and I go into the airport parking lot There's a ticket got a ticket because they scanned you oh

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Ring Doorbell, Law Enforcement Data Access

The privacy implications of Ring doorbell cameras are discussed, specifically the "open pipeline" of data provided to law enforcement agencies. The hosts debate the trade-off between security and surveillance, noting that criminals can also potentially exploit these streams. An anecdote is shared about a delivery driver refusing to ring a doorbell to avoid being recorded.

ring doorbell· surveillance· privacy· fedex· law enforcement

2:32:13 Yeah, they go there when apparently in the scandalous things and being boomed there I was with a smart tag and i get it. I still don't have my mailbox sorted out and i've gotten a lot of helpful information from people and one of our producers she said you know i've been waiting for to pop up so much is just i think she's in She was in real estate I have to look it up again, and she's oh yeah now Look at this link And it's just one of these sites you know like find a person calm or whatever the heck. It is John every address I've lived that back to 30 Glen Road Verona New Jersey with every phone number accurate

2:32:57 Yeah up until my last place of residence. Yeah, you have to pay like 50 bucks a month to get that stuff Unless you got a free month or every day well She just sent me a link I said this is crazy This is there is no sir in fact I and I don't get US Postal Service But I do get FedEx and UPS because they apparently can find the address but none of them ring the doorbell They knock so I finally asked one of them You know, if you ring the bell I might hear it every... because I'd miss the guy at a return. And he says now don't do that anymore because I don't want to be recorded. All these doorbell things

2:33:41 These doorbell cameras. Yeah, they don't want even though they're probably being recorded anyway They hate it or they are that the Mimi was bitching about that she's got a ring She just installed one on their house up north And she says who Tell his story you've got to tell the story now Apparently it records and when she goes out to take the garbage out they it records Her coming and going and then it makes a clip, and then sends it to her by email And she's got all these clips of herself yeah walking in when she first saw the clips is who the hell is that woman? You know the these companies let law enforcement into your cameras

2:34:30 They have almost an open pipeline. So, you know this is not a guy as the OTG specialist in our In our little snow agenda family I would recommend she get rid of this device Discussed this exact same thing with her okay? Well good and she said no And I see where the cops are looking at you. I don't care what difference does it make oh Oh, yeah that's how it starts. Yeah, no. So you told her you're no longer visiting? Is that the idea? I'm not... Well if that's the case she says i'll keep it for good. I'l get a second one. Hey-o! I'll get one on the back door. Yeah, It's gotten pretty bad

2:35:13 It's really gotten pretty bad. All right, just by the way if the police can get into the get access to the stream or take a look at the videos that means a criminal can too that's the problem. Oh easily! Criminal can watch your good comings and goings oh she's back up she's gone yeah she took off yep she's out now she's gone of course having a Fila dog in the house keeps Teach somebody a lesson. Even one of those Venezuelan dogs? Brazilian. Same thing, yeah you gotta be careful they can turn on you and kill ya! Yeah well I don't think that's gonna happen... Or a glitch could kill you

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Extinction Rebellion, Debt Refusal Strategy

Extinction Rebellion activists in the UK are reportedly considering a "mass debt refusal" strategy, including mortgages and student loans, to pressure the government on climate change. Environment Secretary Michael Gove declined to declare a "climate emergency," leading to threats of further civil disobedience. The hosts mock the movement's reliance on "peer-reviewed climate science" and apocalyptic models.

extinction rebellion· london· michael gove· debt refusal· climate change

2:36:50 These are the people who say that we need to immediately take action and they are taking action. They've blocked off of London Stock Exchange... Their action is to screw things up! And one woman glued her breasts to the pavement? Yeah, I like that one. Yes it's....I don't know how smart these people are. It was Britain's biggest civil disobedience protest in decades. I don't know if that's true But we'll just take it from them. The biggest... I don't know that it's true. We'll hear it again. They had these student protests about their tuition, that they had to invent kettling because it was completely out of control and she says this? Yep. Let it happen! It was Britain's biggest civil disobedience protest in decades Yeah, I don't think that's true at all. That's not true. It's not even close the true But it makes you pay attention

2:37:53 bringing climate change to the heart of political debate. I think the situation is certainly a grave one and i think that the most important thing is to ensure that our government acts Politicians should be judged on actions, not words. We should show that we're making a difference rather than simply telling everyone how important it is to change." But Extinction Rebellion activists were left disappointed when Environment Secretary Michael Gove failed to declare a climate emergency... So on Tuesday their leader was already warning Reuters there was more non-violent civil disobedience to come like refusing to honour personal debts

2:38:31 that would entail a mass refusal of paying off mortgages, student loans. That's interesting I mean that is just purely my opinion though that's what i'll be saying when we're talking strategy and I think that's the kind of way to go And actually what we want with all this... We don't want to be in a battle really we want the institutions that were all part of it to wake up You know, which is happening. The financial institution businesses going we just can't carry on as we are so what are we gonna do that's different? Bradbrook said a mass debt refusal would quote turn the financial system upside down

2:39:09 Reuters Matthew Green is following the story. Clearly the movement's going through a lot of internal debate at the moment and deciding how they can make the biggest impact after surprising everybody I think, even themselves with the amount of support and attention they gained over the last few weeks Many people say that it's unrealistic to rapidly decarbonize the economy, but Extinction Rebellion is arguing it's not about what's realistic. It's about what has to happen to avoid the most apocalyptic scenarios found in peer-reviewed climate science. This is my favorite, peer reviewed climate science! Are you kidding me? These are models man these are models. Rapidly decarbonize the economy but Extinction Rebellion is arguing it's not about what's realistic its about what has to happen to avoid the most apocalyptic scenarios found

2:40:06 in peer-reviewed climate science. The challenge for Extinction Rebellion is getting more people and those in power to agree with that view. Well, this happened in New York too. I have a clip. My clips are little less... It doesn't have the one factor which I thought was quite interesting. Don't pay your bills! Yeah, this is... don't pay your mortgage yeah that's a great idea what could possibly go wrong? Get foreclosed become homeless i mean what kind of logic is this you know this to me this whole thing at this point with all these

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Sunrise Movement, Chuck Schumer Protest

Activists with the Sunrise Movement protested at Senator Chuck Schumer's office, demanding he support the Green New Deal. A resident of Sunset Park, Brooklyn, cited the impact of Hurricane Sandy as the motivation for the protest. The hosts characterize the movement as a "monster created by the left" that is now disrupting commerce.

sunrise movement· chuck schumer· green new deal· brooklyn· hurricane sandy

2:40:53 crisis, rebellion. What is this? It's the extinction rebelling all these protests and all these marches that are really hurting commerce. This is a monster that has been created by the left. They deserve this. So here is what's happening in New York City. I'm willing to get arrested and put my body on the line for the Green New Deal because it means the bodies of all of the people who are being affected by the climate crisis. We're here demanding that Senator Schumer sign onto a Green New Deal. Stand with us, Chuck Schumer!

2:41:49 Activists with the Sunrise Movement say they've asked Senator Schumer to convene town hall meetings to discuss his climate plan, but say their requests have been revoked or ignored. This is Araceli Jimenez, a resident of Brooklyn's Sunset Park neighborhood. I have lived in Sunset Park since i was four years old. It is a low-income immigrant community of color and it was ravaged by Hurricane Sandy so I have seen what the climate crisis is going to do, what its already doing to communities like mine all across this planet

2:42:29 And when our Senate minority leader refuses to co-sponsor the only plan on the table that is going to address the crisis at a scale that science and justice demand, then that is unacceptable. I will not stand for it and neither should you! Hold on hold on... That's not the ONLY plan on the table? Oh yeah oh yeah No it is You're not paying any attention chump Hey Beto has a plan. Beto's got a five trillion dollar plan!

2:43:12 as an opponent in that? Won't you have to fight them, won't you have to declare yourself in opposition of their interests. Well I think the short answer is yes in some significant way we know that certain oil and gas corporations have been fighting public policy on this issue, have been hiding their own science and research at the expense of our climate and human life. So wherever those two things come in contrast or in opposition, I'm always going to choose the people of this country. Having said that, I want to make sure that those who work

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Beto O'Rourke, Climate Plan Cadence

Beto O'Rourke's $5 trillion climate plan is discussed, with the candidate calling for a transition to net-zero emissions by 2050. The hosts critique O'Rourke's changing speaking cadence, noting he no longer sounds like Barack Obama and now appears "nervous" and "robotic." They also mock his claim that the world has only 10 years left to address the climate crisis.

beto o'rourke· climate plan· 2020 election· barack obama· fossil fuels

2:42:29 And when our Senate minority leader refuses to co-sponsor the only plan on the table that is going to address the crisis at a scale that science and justice demand, then that is unacceptable. I will not stand for it and neither should you! Hold on hold on... That's not the ONLY plan on the table? Oh yeah oh yeah No it is You're not paying any attention chump Hey Beto has a plan. Beto's got a five trillion dollar plan!

2:43:12 as an opponent in that? Won't you have to fight them, won't you have to declare yourself in opposition of their interests. Well I think the short answer is yes in some significant way we know that certain oil and gas corporations have been fighting public policy on this issue, have been hiding their own science and research at the expense of our climate and human life. So wherever those two things come in contrast or in opposition, I'm always going to choose the people of this country. Having said that, I want to make sure that those who work

2:43:50 in the oil and gas industry. Those who work in the fossil fuel industry are brought along as partners to make sure that we make this transition, in the 10 years that we have left to us... As a science and scientists tell us. So first of all he's bringing the oil and gas partners! And he's right because if you really want to go to wind and solar you need to treble your gas electricity generation capacity So he's saying... I'm sorry, i'm not following the message. 10 years!

2:44:35 a significant part of this country. We cannot do this by half measure or by only half of us, it can't be Democrats versus Republicans big cities versus small towns we all have a shared interest in a cleaner future for this country so I'm going to work with listen to everyone anytime anywhere to make sure that we advance this agenda and get to zero net net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. No, no, no, that is not going to fly! You know the funny thing is his cadence has been slowly changed since he can't hear Obama a lot anymore because used to be when he ran against Cruz he's a boy it sounded like Obama a little bit tried to make as Obama sound now he sounds like a robot

2:45:18 His cadence is just, you can't listen to it for very long. He's very nervous now he can't really get anything out he's wearing suits and ties it's probably cutting off his circulation. Yeah the tie! Everyone knows that a tie around the neck especially if you tie it properly it cuts down your blood to the brain and you would slowly become an idiot very common knowledge And with that handy no agenda tip We will leave you for today's deconstruction, but we'll be back in just a matter of days on Sunday. The other Thursday in the week and we'll bring you another two three hours and hours of entertainment Hope you found something valuable today If you did we'd appreciate you to send some value our direction Dvorak org slash na

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Outro, End of Show Mixes

The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show via the "value for value" model. The episode concludes with a series of "end of show mixes" produced by listeners, featuring show catchphrases and musical parodies. The final segments include procedural audio from the Nadler committee hearing.

adam curry· john dvorak· austin· silicon valley· value for value

2:46:08 And coming to you from the frontier of Austin, Texas it is the capital of the drone star states here in FEMA region number six and all governmental maps Remember Dvorak that org slash na until next time in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where this effort was on time and we were on time. I'm John C Dvorak once again Dvorak dot-org slash a day until Sunday everybody We say adios mofos and such. Thanks to Donald Winkler, Jesse Coy Nelson Sir Chris Wilson Vinnie Payne and Brian Longenecker for our end of show mixes

2:47:09 No mail today, Mailbus has gone away They say I don't exist. I'm getting pretty pissed No mail today Postmasters passed the buck I told him on my flight He doesn't give a fuck How could they know just what this really means? Null-existent address Much worse than it seems! How can they find My house out in the burb When it's not on their computer But the numbers on the curb No mail today and no delivery They misplaced my address, no wonder I'm depressed That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true

2:48:16 The collective still survive. That's true So that the birds can flourish so... That's true That's true! So that the birds can flourish, so that the mammals can flourish, so that all life can flourish? That's true The collectives still survive. That's true! And really we think that would be the gentler choice, somebody is saying. Yeah you and me. Be gentler to simply... ...back to that which is sustainable and... That's true! That's true! That's true! That's true! That's true! The collective still survives

2:49:15 Thanks Obama. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, they'll deconstruct the news for you! Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak that is what they came here to do! That's true... We need to kill them

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2:51:02 Bomb them and bomb them again, hey And bomb them again, hey Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them And kill them! Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them And kill them! I'll bomb them again Bob, bomb them again We need to kill them Bob, I'll bomb them again We need to kill them and bomb them again. The best podcast in the universe! devorek.org slash N-A-M-E Mr Chairman, move the table. Mr Chairman I move to amend. Clerk will... Mr Chairman I move to adjourn