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00:00 Do you have your gaffer tape to fix that again? Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday January 27th 2019 this is your award-winning Give My Nation Media Assassination Episode 1107! This is no agenda. Spent my carbon budget and broadcasting live from the capital of the Roman Star State here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley Where I wouldn't be dog gone, I'd be long gone. I'm John C. DeMora. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... Alright who is writing your openings now? Sam Cook. That's right. Wow from the grave. Sam Cook everybody way to go very nice. Bonjour Jean-Claude Hello. Bonjour to you. In the morning all ships at sea. Le matin exactly well well well

00:56 What an interesting series of events yes again, yes, I can't we shows over with two days nothing but hectic excitement Yeah, and it almost was a lot of it resolves itself again. I've had so many calls from from our producers in DC Although most that most of our producers who are really in the know of stuff They're much more interested in talking about Venezuela. And most of them say, pay attention because that's where we're headed! That's what it's going to be like for us. Yeah well, yeah, well like Bernie and that's probably true. Bernie came out made a big stink about this whole thing thinking we should be back in Maduro I mean come on Now let's just back this up for a second What a fantastic... This is a soft coup? Is what I keep hearing the term

01:51 No, they got guys with guns. Well... I guess it's just a... You know what the difference between soft coup and hard coup? Oh there is one difference. What we're trying to do to Trump is more of a soft coup. It's just no. Soft coup is until the military takes over. Oh well maybe. That's well that's the definition I've heard and I think were very close as my sources say. Sources familiar with this situation The United States has offered visas to all Venezuelan military personnel. There has been one guy that was in the embassy or the consulate in Washington who, when he refused to be called back and he was a military guy. He's kind of hung out... I actually have a clip which I think covers all of this it's not a bad rundown this is the Venezuela rundown on NBC

02:52 Secretary of State Mike Pompeo today putting the world on notice. Now it's time for every other nation to pick a side no more delays, no more games. Pompeo urging action at a tense UN Security Council meeting to address the unfolding political and humanitarian crisis in Venezuela Either you stand with the forces of freedom or your in league with Maduro and his mayhem I forgot about forces of freedom. Mmm that's scrumptious Freedom brought to you by Forces Humanitarian crisis in Venezuela either you stand with the forces of freedom or your league with Majuro and his mayhem

03:30 Those forces Pompeo spoke of led by 35 year old opposition leader Juan Guaido, who this week was named interim president by the Venezuelan parliament drawing criticism from President Nicolás Maduro. calling it an American orchestrated coup. Maduro tweeting, no one is going to subdue us we will never surrender the split has plunged Venezuela further into crisis maduro handpicked by former president Hugo Chavez is largely blamed for the country's economic decline with annual inflation rates up to 1.3 million percent according to a study by the opposition-controlled National Assembly Maduro has support only from a handful of countries including Russia and China

04:13 More than a dozen nations are behind Bridal after the US announced its support Maduro lashed out expelling American diplomats from the country. The Trump administration maintaining a hard line As protesters in the US pick sides. We can't be sitting here complaining about interference from abroad in our election while we're supporting someone that's essentially creating a coup And late word tonight, the Venezuelan highest ranking military diplomat in Washington has broken with the Maduro regime I gotta tell you man Pompeo and whoever else was involved in this did a good job on teeing everybody up

04:58 Getting you know 17 countries immediately to recognize Guido as the man. I'm not quite sure who's... It is the same way Intel rolled out that itanium The what? You don't even remember this chip No, no the type so they had this superchip that they were gonna roll out and replace the x86 series Oh okay yeah And then did this They did all this pre, you're gonna be with us. You're gonna be with us. We're gonna do a joint announcement and it was very well orchestrated probably the best ever but it resulted in so much embarrassment that never happened again quite at that level but that's what you do It's just like...it's a form of marketing Yeah well of course That's what politics is Is all marketing There was one extra little thing about the voting machines that got Maduro re-elected

05:53 These were a bunch of, I think British machines. Smartmatic, Cybernetica who... I'm not sure if they still had Maduro in their pocket thinking okay this is all good here we go in March 2018 Smartmatic the electoral product company which had participated the majority of elections under the Bolivarian government ceased operations in Venezuela I said they could no longer guarantee the validity of election results through its machines. Uh-huh. As if they ever could! Well, I guess they had their outcomes pre-programmed and maybe someone got wise to it and changed that around but this is very important for United States oil

06:43 And you know more about this than I do, but it's my understanding that our refiners in the US like to get this Venezuelan crude to mix up with our Texas stuff. And it sells pretty important. The best crude that I've ever heard of is Bolivian, and so I have to assume that a lot of the crude down in South America is... So this stuff is so... The problem with crude oil is the viscosity and not so much though as the amount of sulfur that is in the crude And they had stuff coming out of Bolivia that they would run through this little refinery they created over by the Union Refinery on the coast here. Can't remember the name, it was Pacific I think and they just took nothing but... They had this refinery with such that it didn't even need any equipment whatsoever- Just put it through the pipes! To take sulfur out and yeah, and I was told by somebody when I was in there working up

07:45 that you could take this Bolivian crude and put it right in a diesel truck and drive it off. Nice, right out of the ground into your truck? Yeah! Fantastic! But I'm assuming that this Venezuelan oil which is right next door is similar. It's a really high quality product. Right Yeah, but are you familiar with the mixing? That's what we do. No I don't know that it makes sense yeah but that's generally the way... It's not generally the way it works You don't mix the oils before you put them through the process because you're just causing more trouble This doesn't seem sensible Oh

08:29 I mean, if you can refine Texas crude, you can refine Texas crude. And then you're going to refine the other stuff too. It's just a it's almost like a CMOS process. Yeah this is from...I got this from oilprice.com ever since we started pipelines now looking at pipelines that follow a lot of energy stuff so I had no idea what validity this has but they said one reason Gulf Coast refiners continue to rely on imports of Venezuela's heavy oil despite the collapsing oil production, Venezuela seen exports of crude oil. Well shit where was it now? I lost my place anyway it was the refineries needed it...I don't know

09:11 Well, I don't know why they need it more than they need any other oil. But maybe it has some properties that are good for some others byproducts or who knows? I do know this...I was looking at the list of the countries with the most oil reserves in Venezuela is number one They need Saudi Arabia. And for sure what we don't want is more of these 400 consultants from Russia who have been sent in, you know that means consultants code name for special forces the Chinese are all there now the Chinese are in there and they're pissed because I think Venezuela owes them 40 or 50 billion dollars

09:53 Stuff that they never expected to get paid for but hey, that's how they did. They works like okay You can't pay for it. That's ours so this could come to an interesting conflagration Yeah, that is an interesting situation right let's play this you have a long clip here from Democracy now which takes a different angle on this and I think there's some justification for some of these Some of these But actually, let me jump to the clip right that would follow this. But let's play the short clip first which is Venezuela, The Professor. Okay. Doki? Humberto Velasco, let's begin with you your assessment of what's taken place so far are we seeing a coup in the making? Yeah I mean absolutely

10:42 There's no question on the other hand that the Maduro government lacks significant amount of popular support and to a significant extent also legal legitimacy. And as you just mentioned, I returned from a couple of weeks there just on Tuesday and the level of discontent especially among popular sectors that had previously strongly supported Maduro and certainly before him Chavez is palpable it has to do with prices, it has to do with public services. However that does not translate and it hasn't in the past and its unclear whether it does now to support for the opposition which on its own terms um... has advanced uh... certainly these last few moves and as advance agenda that is plunging Venezuela into tremendous degree of political and social uncertainty Now only a long clip but what he's saying is everybody ready for this

11:39 And the long clip, they bring something up. I hope it's in here that it's not...I'll talk about it. this whole situation of the collapsed economy in Venezuela, which the socialists are upset about because of the Bernies and the AOCs and the rest because they would like to see something that was pure socialism actually work. Now are they also... but please tell me that certainly Bernie has also got to be saying hey man maybe we shouldn't be doing these coups Is he talking about that at all or is he just saying leave the socialist to the socialists? I haven't got any Bernie clips. Okay, but I do know that he's all in for Maduro. Sure But let's play them live their overview from democracy now. I alert people that a coup is being carried out against our institutions Against our democracy against our Constitution against our president Nicolas Maduro the legitimate president of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

12:32 The Venezuelan defense minister's comment came one day after President Trump announced the U.S. would recognize opposition leader Juan Guaido as Venezuela's new president. Guaido, the new head of Venezuela's National Assembly, declared himself president on Wednesday during a large opposition protest. On Thursday, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pledged to send $20 million to the Venezuelan opposition in the form of humanitarian aid to address shortages of food and medicine caused in part by harsh U.S. sanctions. Pompeo made the announcement while speaking at OAS, Organization for American States. Right The time for debate is done. The regime of former President Nicolas Maduro is illegitimate His regime is morally bankrupt

13:22 It's economically incompetent and it is profoundly corrupt. It is undemocratic to the core, I repeat the regime of former President Nicolas Maduro is illegitimate we therefore consider all of its declarations and actions illegitimate and invalid Secretary of State Pompeo's speech was interrupted by Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin, who will join us later in the broadcast. In other developments, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has ordered the U.S. to remove all of its diplomats from Venezuela—from Venezuela—but Washington is ignoring their request, claiming Maduro no longer has authority to take such action.

14:06 While the U.S. Embassy in Caracas is staying open, the State Department has ordered nonessential diplomats and embassy staff to leave Venezuela. Meanwhile, Maduro has ordered all of Venezuela's diplomatic staff in the United States to return home. The crisis is happening just weeks after Maduro was sworn in to a second six-year term following his victory in an election last May that was boycotted by several of the opposition groups. The international community remains split on the situation in Venezuela. On Thursday, U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres urged all actors to, quote, lower tensions and pursue every effort to prevent violence and avoid any escalation."

14:49 Mexico and Uruguay have urged all sides to hold negotiations. On Thursday, Mexico's new president Andrés Manuel López Obrador spoke out against foreign intervention in Venezuela. ANDRÉS MANUEL LOPEZ OBRADOR, Mexican President-Elect for the First Time Intervene in Venezuela Translator We should conduct foreign relations with the principles of nonintervention—of the self-determination of peoples—of peaceful solutions to disputes But many other countries in the hemisphere have joined with the United States in supporting the attempted coup. This includes Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Argentina and Chile. Here in the United States, the leaders of the Democratic Party have also largely supported Trump's actions

15:30 You know, we do have a new actor on the scene who has not really come up yet in any of the news reports. Although I think they could have a field day with it. Elliot Abrams! Do you remember Elliot Abrams? Oh yeah He was involved in Iran-Contra he worked for Yeah he cropped up and he was I guess National Security Advisor for Bush What? I can't remember Didn't he just get put into some job? Yeah, special envoy for Venezuela. Right right yeah Like two days ago like hello Yes And he did a grand contra the guy knows exactly what to do we're gonna use local South American assets which will be you know some kind of some paramilitary mercenaries and they're gonna finish up the job. Yeah wait foam finger number one Woo

16:23 What they've, uh... trying to hint at there but if you listen enough of these reports- Whoa! Whoa! Did they come for ya? Nah that was the- Do we need to stop tape John are you okay? Yeah. Mention Elliot Abe- If you listened enough of these reports am I okay? Yeah well what happens your mic did your mic fall off yeah okay The problem, what it did was it knocked over my volume control. Oh yeah. So I can't really hear you but that's okay. Well no go ahead turn it up we can wait do you have your gaffer tape to fix that again from the last time that happened? There there it is

17:02 Test, test, test. Yeah of course whenever this happens it never falls on your musical instruments and destroys them forever that's too bad Never does the recorder get destroyed ever Anyway so what they're leaving out is that United States embargoes sanctions They don't work you know so much in Europe or places even Russia I mean they do work to a point but they really do work They worked very well in Venezuela and made it work And it's the sanctions that brought the economy down over there. Yeah, and what really did the trick was they told Citgo which is owned by Venezuela It's their outlet for the refined products gas stations all over the place So when you're putting Citgo gasoline in your car You're using Venezuelan crude as a base

17:56 You're actually a commie when you use it So when you were so they told sitco because of the sanctions they couldn't send any of the money Back to Venezuela that all the profits from the gas station right, so wait. So it stayed here yeah We are so good at this Well, it's true. It's really well here's the thing but what's the alternative? Some people would bring up the fact that we don't play fair and this particular trick which was a good one just to freeze the assets you know make them I mean they're not stealing the money let's put it that way is still belongs to Citgo but it can leave the country right

18:40 And that is like over a billion dollars that Venezuela could probably use. But no, they don't even have access to it. The way I see this is... It's kind of a non-starter choice. Either we do it or Russia does it or the Chinese do it! somebody's going to do it. It is in South America, it's kind of close to us so I understand the thinking...it doesn't make me feel much better about the New World Order but I do understand where they're coming from yeah this is ours our turf kinda that's why you can see why China gets too upset about us dicking around and Southeast Asia and places like that because we would be very irked if

19:27 the Chinese were, although they are very involved in Brazil but now that we got our guy in and Brazil another pet peeve of democracy now and the socialists. That may be ending and we have... Oh really? May have some better relationships with... That's why Brazil jumped on board with us on this Venezuela thing. Ah yes So Bolsonaro is going to be likely to be a good ally for us and he may, you know help us. Okay so here's what I'm gonna predict this because this is much bigger than just Venezuela of course. I think that we're going to see a deal with China Trump and Xi very soon To smooth over whatever those guys the Chinese need in Venezuela for their investments? I think that this maybe a leveraging point

20:20 that Trump would use to get the trade agreements in place. It feels like that's what's going to happen Russia I have no idea what they're doing other than... I don't think Russia cares too much about this, I mean Russia is likely involved because of all that oil They've got 400 special forces in there Yeah i know, I'd like to know what's going on Whenever someone sends in consultants you know what that means They had gold mining rights, the Russians. In fact they received it not even too long ago I think. Oh that might be what it is. It could be gold. Let me see... yeah Venezuela gave Russia permission to mine gold which is another issue thats wrapped up in all of this. Well the Russians may just be sending people in there to protect their gold assets That's possible

21:16 But the Chinese, they're really irked about it. So are the Venezuelans actually! I hear they're not too happy with what's going on... Yeah but some of them i think that professor that was at the first clip I played or one of the early clips who is I think he's Venezuelan and he teaches him talks about this heat It's the upper classes of Venezuela When Chavez was running the place, he kept them happy. Maduro has not and he's run him out of town basically made him that part of the three million people that can afford to leave the country or there's a lot of poor people but there's also many of the upper class and intellectual class in the country was forced out and once they you lose that group

22:07 It could be problematic because they have a lot of influence in other elsewhere. And this was, I think is part of what's going on now also have the feeling that the president Trump knew nothing about this or was very unaware of it and just to make any sense possible that he just Pompeo's it might be his cause he's XCIA baby. Yeah, of course. This is what CIA does And that may not be so coincidental that we also have this Roger Stone fracas, which is dominating the news. I would say the ratio of Venezuela-Roger Stone news is Venezuela one stone nine just in weight of what attention it's given. Oh yeah and that and another at least as much stone coverage was the Trump caved coverage.

23:04 He caved. Trump caved, you got Roger Stone, you got all this very kind of almost the Hollywood Tonight style of stories versus Venezuela. Yeah exactly which is a real story yeah it's the only real story but it's not as entertaining and then we as you'll find when we get to the yes stone stuff. Well what else do you have on Venezuela? Because that's about all I've got yet. Oh, well I got the quickie this can already actually been played... Well how-what is the endgame for Venezuela if we have to get-shut Maduro up everyone has to accept Guido Bama

23:49 Once we've accepted him, then we can start doing the deals and making the Chinese whole and give the Russians whatever mining contracts they want. That seems like it would be something to that order? As long as we control the oil? You know, like Iraq? What could possibly go wrong?" Well I would like to know what triggered this because... We know that Chavez- This is pretty much the story of the book Economic Hitman. Yes Economic Hitman, which is one of the I think... Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Yeah, Confessions of an Economic Hitman is one of the primary books that this show uses for theory. The first book! The first version of it and not the re-release after he got compromised Now as the story goes that you know It was Chavez who we wanted wouldn't play ball with us

24:46 And what that means is I guess turnover half the country, the United States interests. He ran off all the journalists and everybody out of the country because they were all a bunch of stooges for the CIA. And then he took firm control of the country, and at some point we kind of gave up. We let Sitko in—you know, Sitko still has all these gas stations and nobody does anything about that since—but you know, we kinda gave up on it. Then when he handpicked Maduro to take over, I think that's when they put those whatever section in the

25:25 in these agencies, intelligence agencies were working on Chavez problem. They started up again and it took them about this long to get to this... It took six years because Maduro's been in for six years he just got reelected so six years have gone by and now we've decided to ramp it up again. So Sinovesa is crude oil producer in Venezuela And in September, the announcement came that Maduro said they'd sold 9.9% of Sinovesa to the Chinese National Petroleum Corporation who after that owned 49 percent of Sinovesa So that's a problem! The Chinese will have real issue with that

26:19 Well, that's probably what triggered the whole thing. That would be the catalyst wouldn't it? They wouldn't do sell anything to us because we're trying to get in there and they're telling us a pound sand so they let the Chinese waltz in and take 50% of the main refiner Yeah over the past 10 years China has invested... Oh that's more than an issue with this. China invested over $50 billion in Venezuela in oil for loan agreements securing energy supplies for its fast-growing economy Okay, so that would be the issue right there and I think China's a little too far from home to To get around us now. God this is so evil it's great It's just evil and yeah, but what's the evil part?

27:04 Just how the world works and limit. Well, it's nothing new to us But if people really understood you know just take a random college kid He said hey You know this is actually how it still kind of works I think they would I mean they can't even handle red hat They can't even handle a red hat. I mean just listen privilege Yeah, it's just nothing changes Nothing changes It's all the same changed well little No, one big thing. Oh China? No the college kids are stupid. Yeah they certainly are getting an interesting education that's for sure that's for sure coming out to be stupid so I guess that makes sense that the joint venture and the sale giving China 49% of their crude company is a problem

28:01 Yeah, I mean China's every right to do that and have every right to have that commerce But I guess for us is just we just can't handle that so we have to go down and mess everything up We don't trust the Chinese. No they're not to be trusted Just look at your individual interactions with them The Chinese believe that everyone space is everyone so get out of my space as my space It's your space. They don't care whose space it is they're rude They think it's funny when they can steal something from us. I'm not saying anything else and that's how Chinese are That is their culture and they admit it Well, that's why they have such harsh penalties in China for what we would think of as simple infractions Right right hang some guy Yeah, there still doesn't help well with that one guy might sorry Well if they hang one guy for that one guy might change but not everybody

29:03 Okay, all right now what we're getting closer to the two woods get but it's gonna fall apart. This is just a this is this is a coup and we're gonna This looks like one that they're that the agency or whoever's behind the actual activities It's not going to botch. It looks like it won't be botched No I also think it's not necessarily the Central Intelligence Agency I think this is the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. I don't know where you get that from, but... Maybe I can't tell you where I got it from! But why? What's the rationale? I don't care where you got it from but what would be the rationale? These are these they've grown their capabilities way beyond what CIA does They are the true spy agency now in my humble estimation

29:57 Because they're looking from space. They got everything going and there, they changed their name from National Geospatial Agency to National Geospatial Intelligence Agency gives you a clue Really? Space Force Space Force! Just think of all these things coming together. Space Force!! They have incredible capabilities and I think it may go beyond... Yeah, but why would they even? Because their military intelligence. Who's running the show? Is the CIA running this show? I don't think CIA is running any show anymore. The Roger Stone Show that's what they're running Well let's talk about The Roger Stone Show

30:44 Yeah, who pops up after months of being quiet? Months. He's not anywhere to be found. Roger Stone gets arrested Who pops up? Who? Brennan! All of a sudden... I didn't see, but he may have propped up to you. It was not-I didn't see one instance of Brannon anywhere Right there on the Morning Joe's Mr Director good to see you i know you haven't read through the indictment we're still reading through it ourselves but what your initial reaction to the arrest of Roger Stone? Well I think that term being used is unsurprising and everybody was expecting this Roger Stone was expecting as well But like many people in the Trump carpet Oh really? Uh..Mr Stone has an established track record of being unethical and unprincipled

31:22 And now this is catching up with them and now a seven count indictment. I think it's a very serious one Stop stop stop stop start the clip over and tell me that they but that everybody in this discussion admitted that they didn't read the indictment. Oh yeah, oh no this goes...this keeps going! This is like oh I didn't read it, of course they all read it! He's liars, he's liars It comes back. I read it? Listen, it comes back. This I-didn't-read-it comes back in a moment so instead of starting it over I'll just continue Okay alright You're absolutely right about that though But it shows that the special counsel's office is uncovering the evidence it needs

31:59 And so, just like Mr. Stone's indictment I'm not going to be surprised by the other indictments that are going to coming down the pike very soon. Roger Stone has said recently he will never testify against Donald Trump Do you think that calculus has changed this morning? No, i think it is changing and will change If he decides to go down for Mr. Trump It's gonna be his loss But there are many people who have that position and then change it very quickly when as was said The federal guidelines, sentencing guidelines tend to sink into them So he shows up all of a sudden just after months of being very quiet. Says he hasn't, I'll come on the air sure. I mean I've been so busy haven't had time but for Roger Stone and I think I got this massive importance nothing about Venezuela no no just about Roger Stone So what exactly are these? And I know you haven't read the indictment but oh my gosh what are these indictments and what crimes who else is gonna get to indicted How many more indictments would you expect among senior Trump campaign officials Listen to him laughing

33:02 How many more indictments would you expect among the senior Trump campaign officials that are referenced in here? Stone told senior Trump campaign officials about materials possessed by Organization One WikiLeaks. So, that's in the multiple and then also there is a Trump supporter that Stone was interfacing with about the Wikileaks trial Well, I expect that probably within the next 60 days you're going to have a fair number of indictments. A significant number of indictments. I think people are waiting for the report that is coming out from Rob Mueller but what I look for most is the indictment and it's so rich in detail. To me all these indictments are basically going to be the compendium

33:49 Oh, compendium! Really? So all these indictments that he has of process crimes pretty much and crimes outside of the scope for tax evasion. That's going to be the compendium i.e., he is going to have a binder filled with all these indictments and that will be the report it's the compendium Sounds like a great work product. And you've got the right term, they're processed crimes Exactly as they were processing the crimes took place but let's listen to non-reading indictment people I expect there to be a significant number and a significant number of names that are going to be quite familiar to the average American

34:26 Everybody who has a name familiar with the American people be on alert. You're warned! That's all you see. He teases he sits there like oh big names house what named Oh, I don't know speculate give me a no not gonna speculate No because you know people are innocent until well involved in some type of criminal activity People are innocent until alleged to be involved in some kind of criminal activity just listen to the new laws of the nation Please let's do it again

35:08 If people are innocent until they're alleged... I'm not going to speculate, no. Because you know what? People are innocent until alleged to be involved in some type of criminal activity. You aren't innocent until you're proven guilty! Not yet innocent until you're alleged. This is the former director of CIA who has this high- Muslim. It has nothing to do with if he's a Muslim or not. You just pissed at him now! I'm not going to speculate, because people are innocent until alleged to be involved in some type of committment. Director Brennan, I notice in leafing through this indictment we've only just gotten it that it appears Roger Stone is only indicted for things that happened

35:52 after the investigation began. But you said an investigation was underway back in 2016. Can we read from this indictment that the special counsel's office believes that what Roger Stone did in 2016 before he committed these lying to investigators or whatever, that that was all legal? No, again I haven't read the indictment and i know that in the summer of 2016. I had numerous conversations with Jim Comey about what was happening in terms of what the Russians were doing? What was being pushed out publicly how they got access to information who might have facilitated the release of information and so whether or not you know Roger Stone was involved in any of that again I deferred to the special counsel's office

36:43 But it was an ongoing, very intense investigation at that time to see what US persons or officials might have been working with the Russians either wittingly or unwittingly to interfere in the election. And pay attention to the words wittingly or unwittingly they will be very important I'm convinced of it It crops up with Brennan but the person who initially used it in a lie was Clapper who was asked if the NSA ever has any kind of eavesdropping on American citizens and he lied, and he said well no at least not wittingly. What is the exact...

37:26 definition of wittingly. Let's look at how I explain my Muslim comments. I'm going to change calling him a Muslim to calling him a Salafist, which is a sect that is the radical one and we don't think we have one Salafists who listens to this show maybe but I'm sure he doesn't donate So I'll just stay with that, Salafist. Because he has to be a Salafist. He supposedly became... went through the process in Saudi Arabia which is a Wahhabist generally speaking which is a Salafist offshoot so yeah. Meron Webster definition of wittingly is oh it's interesting chiefly dialectal huh

38:23 I'm not sure why that strikes me as odd, that props up as... So it means that you knowingly did something. But it talks about dialectal. Not quite sure how I'm supposed to interpret that? That means yes or no so it's a dialectic. Pure yes and no okay. So wittingly or unwittingly yeah. It just is that term. I hear these terms pop-up once in awhile. You're probably right. And I've been hearing one from Roger Stone which he started off with his first getting arrested right after the arrest. I have the CNN, the live stuff in like about a minute... Oh when they actually, when CNN got tipped off that it was gonna be... It's not even tipped-off! First of all they call it exclusive because it's exclusive! They're sitting there waiting, they know what's happening this is part of these set up everybody involved

39:17 from the Mueller side and I'm sure Brennan knew as well. This was set up, listen... This is just remarkable it's just remarkable to watch you know what they call... FBI open the door! That said FBI open the door and now they're about to say another warning She sure seems to know what's happening FBI warrant. This is called, you know the grab shot in the vernacular and it... Is that true? I've never heard of the grab shot in the television vernacular but I guess they have it Have you ever heard this? The grab shots No I haven't but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist in some news organizations You never heard this before It's remarkable to watch all unfold You can see Roger Stone right there a little bit behind that door Hold on a second stop before we go on

40:11 It's six in the morning. They brought their SWAT team out, a bunch of tanks and armored vehicles... All kinds of stuff! And they're pounding on your door I don't know about you but at 6 in the morning if I'm sleeping, I mean a back bedroom or some place down there that has how big that house was but I can't pop up and open the door it would take me five minutes for longer And they didn't give him five minutes. I'm surprised that he got to the door as fast as he did! I have no idea, i mean it's... The whole thing is sketchy and you heard Brennan say- You even heard Brennan say even Roger Stone knew this was going to happen He said it right at the beginning of the first clip Roger Stone knew what was gonna happen Everybody knew what was gonna happen So I guess that means NO SURPRISE

40:55 Let's listen to the rest of this. You know standard operating procedure for the FBI to show up heavily armed and right here like this But they didn't do this for other people connected in the investigation, so it is Excuse me this with what they didn't do that for what's-his-face for? Moller no Manicure man a fort didn't I do the exact same thing oh I think it was done procedurally different. First they busted into his place at 3 in the morning to just go through his papers. Oh, okay And then I think they arrested him but they didn't arrest him with the armored vehicles and the flak jackets on as though there's gonna be a firefight.

41:37 They didn't do this showtime people connected in the investigation So it is remarkable that they did this without warning without any indication of stones lawyers beforehand that this would happen We don't know also if they executed a search warrant on I mean as and just told us The reason they do that is because they fear that the person's gonna be a flight risk so they want to Do it under the cover of darkness with a surprise or they think that there are so much evidence inside the room Inside the house that they don't want to give anybody a lead time, a heads up to try and hide some of that evidence. So that's what we just watched this morning. Because this really is just show, it's all for show. And what the ultimate reason is either this is some kind of end game which means... Well you heard that the compendium of this type of activity would be Mueller's report It's very possible that the fall guy for all of the non-provable collusion Trump stuff could be Roger Stone. It's very conceivable he will ... He's also the perfect guy for it if you think about it

42:44 He's a villain, he's creepy. He has all the elements that could be used as... ...'Oh well clearly this guy was no good we got to get rid of him.' Here's what I understood. We have to take a couple basic principles of the NO Agenda show into account One, there is a continuous war between military intelligence and central intelligence And central intelligence or military intelligence either one of them will quote-unquote run the president So, of course Bush Senior. Probably Bush Junior It's all CIA Obama CIA For sure Trump has been DIA Defense Intelligence Agency You want to say something? I was just going to say you left out Clinton I'm not sure about Clinton probably CIA I wouldn't think it would be anything else That's what i would think Because he was running drugs That's what they do Okay so you need to take that into account Now you also have to know

43:45 about Roy Cohn. Does this name ring a bell? Yeah, Roy Cohn is the old lawyer that was... He was McCarthy's lawyer! He was the advisor on the McCarthy trials getting rid of communism yeah in that he was also kick-ass Attorney in New York. Yes, and he was in all the bathhouses with Roger Stone With you'll love this Bolton What's his face? John Bolton gay stuff gay bath houses George W Bush and as mentor and who knows what else to Donald Trump

44:35 And Roger Stone. So this is like this gay cabal going on in the 70's, pre-AIDS mind you and so everybody knows each other and there's a lot of stuff going on it's always as weird kinky sex stuff that gets everybody in trouble but Roger Stone has always been intelligence person like CIA FBI just look at his history with Nixon we know what he what he's doing We know what his ties are to intelligence or were or if they're still there I don't Now, where does Roger Stone work? Roger Stone right now his only gig or his prominent gig is InfoWars. Alex Jones you have to be of the belief that Alex Jones is quite possibly... His rise came through the Defense Intelligence Agency It's not like they're sitting there writing him checks but yeah I think there are ways that they can make that happen

45:29 And so as a dialectic, I guess. So there's you know you have your alternative media which... Jones had been doing this for 15 years Austin Texas is definitely military intelligence Stratford all these places Bobby Inman lives here! Yeah but he CIA. How Bobby Inman is still ultimately military He's army, he's a military guy. I think he's Navy Okay military but military We just got the Air Force you know the future command coming in with billions of dollars This is not an accident this is Austin his military military intelligence And I would say it's not out of realm of possibility to think that Alex Jones came to rise after cable show with the internet through Military Intelligence Maneuvering things just seem to work for him and okay

46:22 Wait, I want you to continue your thinking and this thought but I want to throw just a random clip in because what you said fits in with the ISO. I was selecting for the end of the show is two second clip. Okay? Roger there's a war on alternative media! There's a war on alternative media Oh for sure For sure now here Here's what and the problem is Roger Stone And again, this is just what I've pieced together and you know. I'm shooting from the hip but with some input from our producers so you kind of have to take these assumptions into account So we have this military intelligence Alex Jones thing running along and then all of a sudden we get

47:04 Roger Stone involvement and this is a big problem because What if this is like the enemy coming into the camp? Why is he there, and it's very and there's also all this weird gay sex stuff going on with Roger Stone And I just look around and see what's going on with Alex Jones in stone and a couple other people at Infowars. I can't accuse anybody of anything but you can kind of think they may be something odd happening So Roger Stone is not only a problem for the Defense Intelligence Agency, but for CIA as well. It's like we can't have these guys working together doing pillow talk I don't know Look this is what I've been told now happens

47:49 And maybe, I don't know if it's coincidental that Tim Cook is gay. But he's the first one to de-platform Alex Jones Some message goes out... this has to stop! This guy has to stop We gotta stop the Stone thing we've warned Alex Jones Boom He's gone It just continued and kept on going So this is the next step because they really have nothing on him. Yeah, they got some... Oh he lied about this or that way it's really nothing involved in Trump. It was great to read the indictment I want to mention a few things as an aside In there they you know that keeps talking about how he told some guy to lie one of his buddies to lie to Congress when all he did and its very clear in the indictment was tell him to plead the fifth Yes That's not telling somebody to lie No

48:40 So what I think you're seeing here is a very easy fall guy. Maybe we can say, well at the time this Venezuela stuff is happening why don't we just drop Roger Stone into the meat grinding machine that is the M5M cable news media and Twitter and everything? And just let it chop up and let the blood and guts and bone pieces fly around while were off there making our deal in Venezuela and let this be part of the compendium. And to then have Brennan, not to come out for the Venezuela story no, Brennan comes out after Roger Stone is swatted for an indictment Of course he didn't even have to pay an actual bail amount He just signed and walked out So all of a sudden we have the former director of CIA After months of missing in action he pops up

49:34 It's obvious. And I would say anyone near Alex Jones, go away! You should back away from the operation. I don't think that's going to end very well. Well... That's a good thesis Now let's listen to the fourth or third clip on Brennan and it is a good question from the Morning Joe people with...it's kind of leaning as well With these indictments, what is the story? Bob Miller is trying to tell us. What's the story as you see it that Mueller has begun to tell with the public information that we have

50:18 that there was an extensive effort to try to influence the outcome of the election, that involved the Russians, that involved US persons and may have gone to the very top of the Trump campaign. And so I think the shoes that are yet to drop are going to be the ones that will hit people at the top of the organization. Who is that? The top of the organization meaning Donald Trump? Maybe, maybe not. Including family members? Well clearly they have been talked to and interviewed by the FBI and there's a fair amount

50:58 I want to be very clear about what i was saying earlier about the gay cabal. Again, go look up Roy Cohn. Look at what he did. Look at where he came from. He's a Jew, self-hating Jew homophobic gay guy it's an incredible story Self loathing is the term. Okay, self loathing. You understood what I was saying

51:46 This, the bathhouses and it was Trump Bolton who is oddly right there in the Trump cabinet Lord knows why maybe we figured it out Roger Stone George W Bush And if you doubt me go look for The Washington Post front page story about my uncle My Uncle Donald Gregg Giving midnight tours in the White House to gay prostitutes for President George H. Walker Bush I mean this is not like a big thing i'm making up here, this is well known but never really discussed because you know

52:29 It's always the sex stuff that brings these people down every single time. They can't keep it in their pants. Yeah, they're bored yeah That's probably a part of it well I have a bunch of Roger clips that I thought were worth Going through good good now He went on Tucker immediately after they arrest and it was one of these moments on Tucker Where although Tucker's always got this kind of flabbergasted look on his face all the time with a kind of mouth open It's like just kind of like oh my god. I'm hearing what I'm hearing the sad dog that look mm-hmm And so but it's one of those times where Tucker wasn't like trying to be you

53:12 Trying to start a fight or anything. He was actually letting stone go on and on so he could display that look of oh my god, he's taking it a little further. He's kind of like you're so sad It's oh my god. This is horrible I can't believe this is happening That's you know, it's bankrupting you that's the take he's I Tucker is very compromised in his own way A little disappointed at some of the stuff he's doing but okay Well, but he does get he did get stoned on and nobody else did and so let's start with the Roger on Tucker on arrest a clip When he's the only one that has stone on, no one else did. That's when you want to ask questions. Oh yeah I understand. And we saw a very large number of armed federal agents bringing you out of the house is there something we don't know? Do you have an arsenal at home had you made threats against prosecutors such as violence? Is there context that we don't have? No first of all it's disconcerting

54:11 CNN was aware that I would be arrested before my lawyers were informed. That's disturbing if it was a dangerous situation which would merit the SWAT team well then CNN's cameraman would be in danger. I don't know why they would be allowed to be there By the way, good point if you watch the video this camera man are like right up in their grill It's not like a huge distance shot There in the bushes they're off to the left a fair point about that being a big setup I had no firearm In the house. I don't have a permit for firearm. I don't own a firearm things. I would never say on television

54:48 It's like, wow! No that's something... Let's go rob that guy. You just don't admit these things. For a firearm I don't own a firearm only my wife, two dogs and three cats were at home. I'm not a flight risk in fact i think my passport has expired or it will expire in a few days. I have no record of criminal past And frankly, they just could have contacted my attorney and I would have voluntarily turned myself in. The proof of this is that only hours later the judge granted me a $250,000 surety bond meaning on my signature with no funds put forward because i'm not a flight risk and as far as the government's contention that they were concerned that I would destroy evidence

55:38 They've been in my email and my text messages and my phone calls for two years, probably longer because the New York Times reported on January 20th 2017 that I was among three people in the Trump campaign under active surveillance. Believe me a lot of people were reading his email and listening to this from not just one agency Well, that brings up this clip here. This is the Roger War on the press clip which is kind of an interesting...this was probably scripted between him and Tucker but it's pretty good So it's clear from reading the indictment you've been saying for at least a year that the feds were spying on your texts

56:30 There's no question about it. I don't think there is any question, I agree based on the indictment that they released today So given that they're reading all of your texts you text with a huge number of journalists including me and some of them work for CNN even maybe All those texts were being read by a federal prosecutor What do you think those journalists some of whom are talking about this case right now on TV think of that? Well, you know that's the amazing thing is the press is not coming out and standing up against this war against free expression. This war against the First Amendment which is really a war against the press. Ralph it's flabbergasting really why would the press? I'm stunned! Why would the press do it?! I can't believe they're not fighting against this

57:21 He goes on with this thesis, I think or just probably before that last clip because that was near the end but play Roger on the war on free speech. The charges against you which are primarily for lying to Congress and one of the things you're accused of lying to Congress about is whether or not there was any evidence you had evidence of communication between you an intermediary in Julian Assange Did you lie about that? Again, given that you knew they had your electronic communications and would know the answer already wouldn't that be a stupid thing to lie about. What is this charge about? Yes indeed it's really simple I did forget

57:58 that I had text messages from an old cell phone that were entirely exculpatory, which proved that everything I had said about Credico being my source regarding the significance and the October release date of the WikiLeaks material was accurate. I believe he lied to the grand jury about that, that's been reported but he appears not to be being prosecuted for perjury but i forgot exculpatory information and therefore I will if anybody had bothered to read my website, The Stone Cold Truth. They would know that I basically refuted and documented the refutation of virtually every charge in this indictment. The indictment is thin indeed so what is this about? It's about silencing me there's a war on alternative media There's a war where they're trying to criminalize political expression. There's a war where they're trying to criminalize free speech

59:01 Yeah, I like that. Two of our producers independently said to me nothing in this world ever happens by accident and i think that makes a lot of sense in this case and you know Roger Stohm it may just be the Hail Mary for Mueller like do use this guy everything about him is wrong Or actually perfect. Yeah, it could be a hail Mary that's an interesting idea but one of the things I'm not gonna...I got one more clip up play sure the other ones not that important which is him whining about going broke which probably is good he might be yeah but you know he may come back and it just kind of shame at the system will can just break somebody but they can

59:48 Well, this is his use of the term and he used it a lot when he first got arrested. And he's going to continue to use it and either he's using it too send a message to some Christians who are going to be told to testify or something. Yes, I like that idea! He uses this term over and over again he never says the word lie...he uses the term and this clip has an example of it of bearing false witness The efforts to shut down my show at InfoWars, the efforts to silence Alex Jones who's one of my greatest supporters and proponents are part of this war

1:00:28 So, I intend to plead not guilty. I believe that I will be vindicated." It's funny to watch Preet Bharara on CNN say this is a slam dunk and calls me a liar! Here is the guy who a federal judge lashed for lying in the William Walton case. You're the liar, Preet! And then watching reporters jump to conclusions, Tucker and say, oh well the Trump campaign official who directed Stone to find out about WikiLeaks was Donald Trump. No it was not There are several things in here, in the indictment that are simply not true. So who was it if it wasn't the president? Who is... Well I have to speculate about that because since it never happened It appears to me they have composed testimony for someone Perhaps Rick Gates perhaps Steve Bannon Perhaps someone is bearing false witness against me But knowing what's in my email and text messages there is no corroboration whatsoever for this

1:01:27 Yeah, you know there's so much more when it comes to specifically these guys and Florida and Broward County, and Sheriff Scott Israel from the school that got shot up. Roger Stone good friends with him Trump Mar-a-Lago Maxwell the member of the billionaire with his daughter who then you know all these these sex cults it's a mess! And Trump is in it he's in the middle of this sex mess on Florida and I think there's Epstein

1:02:03 All of this stuff, it's the more you look the more you want to look away. And I think Stone really had to be... He is probably lucky they did it this way To be honest! I think he is such a talker, he has so much information He is real liability for all parties, ALL parties See none of truth can really come out about any of these Because all that stuff has to come up Again, just coincidental that the Miami Herald does this huge expose on Epstein. You know, Broward County up in arms with all these different things. Yes? Stone said in one of his interviews he said that he's looking forward to this case actually going forward because he wants to see... Because this is where a lot of money gets chewed up too He says he wants to see what they have on him in discovery

1:02:59 And they're gonna start asking the mood to think these these cases don't get resolved and people like this some guy in NBC He's gonna be guilty for sure because these indictments are well written And I'm listening to this clown. He's the MSNBC legal analyst, once the chief of the DEA and he was one of these tough guys who talks like this and he went on about it and I'm thinking ...I doubt it because for one thing the indictment is lame and very lame...and uh..it's going to open up a can of worms if it actually goes to trial. You're probably right?

1:03:41 You indict him, have him sign the surety bond go home. And now he has to shut up especially because he's going to plead not guilty I'm sure of that. Sure, sure. Because he doesn't want a bare false witness against the president and so but then it just stays there like that and he can't do anything. He can't go talk in because it's all gonna be used you know...it shuts him up And all the intelligence community doesn't like that what his stone is doing don't like these kind of people You know they like drinking no drugs booze and women. That's the intelligence community We don't do any other crazy bathhouse stuff Everyone wanted this guy out of the way I'm telling you he's lucky to be alive in my opinion

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1:21:58 Before we go any further, I must stop and say that i'm very curious as to your response and perhaps even your coveted vote now that you know that Elizabeth Warren has proposed what you have been a proponent of for as long as I've known you. The wealth tax on rich Americans. This is something you've always been for! Yes, but I've been for a generalized wealth tax with the elimination of income tax altogether because income tax prevents you from accumulating wealth and

1:22:43 If you don't accumulate wealth, in other words... Okay. So that's the caveat as you feel that as long as we abolish income tax and we just do a wealth tax ... I never really remember you saying that but I believe it. Oh no, so it's been planned? I believe it. I'm not disputing it. Because the argument is you can't accumulate wealth if you're being taxed for your income and you want to encourage people to make as much money as they can possibly make income-wise. You don't want to discourage it. So you want to encourage that and then when they start accumulating, to the point where it looks like a little too much money and they're not spending it.

1:23:21 on anything except, and even if they're spending it on yachts and houses those are that's part of their wealth. And if they're putting this back into the system by you know hiring a lot of people doing all these other things that's not wealth. You know? You're not accumulating wealth if you have it. Got it got it gosh okay well then I'm okay so perhaps you should say a wealth only tax Well...I thought was implied Um, maybe. Apparently not! It's been a while since we've talked about it so I never thought of it that way. The wealth tax she wants to imply... at least here's what I think is positive she brought it into the conversation yes that's possible but her wealth taxes gouge the rich. Yours isn't? Let's just find everybody with over 50 million in assets and charge them 2% of all their assets and I think that's unfair but

1:24:17 It's a start, it starts the discussion. And people say well you know you can't do a wealth tax because it's impossible to hide... No they don't! You can't hide that much wealth. You can't hide your houses. You can't hide your yachts. Right so its really on your Your net worth, really. Yeah your net worth...your portfolio is the IRS knows what it is if you start cheating on where you're putting your money hiding in the Cayman Islands they don't like this so you have to uh.. your wealth consists of your property and your portfolio and your bank account yes And that's it I mean we've never had problems collecting property tax No It's a big building

1:25:06 Okay, no good. Solved! I did come across just staying with the 2020 election and i believe this to be true you know I've had a bit of an issue with Kamala Harris's... well now she's saying she was raised as African-American so she identifies is african-american I guess that's valid by today standards She's not African American I don't believe he had the pure African American experience growing up in Ottawa but if But if she says that African-American, even though her father is Jamaican and mother's Indian. Okay I'm not going to argue it however it is my belief in order to be eligible for president your parents have to have been naturalized for at least five years prior to the child's birth could be wrong but I think there's a regulation somewhere in there

1:26:00 So you think she's ineligible? I do. Her father arrived from Jamaica in 61, her mom from India 1960 She was born in 62 so...I don't think she is eligible Well, she's not gonna win anyway. Oh man they did she's high on some people's list Yeah I've heard this too and it's just like you when you think about it John I'm just covering the basis here I really despise Talking about put some stuff together because there's a lot of guys running yeah I mean is now it's gotten to the point where there's probably 50 Democrats that think they're gonna run for president

1:26:36 Yeah, it's close to it. The only smart money seems to be Gavin Newsom who is a wannabe president but they asked him if he wants to run against Trump in 2020 and he said hell no because he's smart! He's gonna run in 2024. No one wants to do this just the morons want to go up against Trump Well you have a list of them and there she is a long list of morons The elites were all, I guess are they done now? Are they back from Davo? From their... I think it's still going on. It could be. Finish like tonight or tomorrow. Well i thought last night was a big crescendo like a big climax because they had their key key speaker

1:27:26 Remember this, I think there were 15 or 1600 private jets that all convened on Davos to talk about climate change amongst other things. You'd think they could share a ride! They came to Davos to talking about climate change So this guest speaker whose original speech was about six minutes long but once i chopped out all the spaces so it has been modified for your for brevity and for your entertainment enjoyment This speaker did not come on a private jet. This speaker took a 37-hour train ride to provide the sound bites that everyone craves when you're in the elite circles because all they're talking about is who controls this, the spending and what are we spending it on to grow? And I think climate change is one that's kind of failing and 5G as the other one will get to that in a moment. This is Greta Thunberg! This is the 12 year old kid

1:28:24 she had some really interesting things to say and I think it's worth its long clip even though I chopped up to this then good good it is long but it's important to listen because this is being said in a stage that is intended to come across as alarmist Of course, we're abusing this child to do this. So you know we've seen this with the invasion in Iraq We use children to talk about children being thrown out of incubators all lies This child is being salva- by the way she has show business parents Did you know that? Like her mom's an opera singer Her dad's an actor Granddad was a director so it's a total show business family and they prop this kid up And they let her terrorize her age group

1:29:14 Specifically, I'm here to say our house is on fire. No kids ever worried when you say the house is on fire It's just they're all they're all fine with it according to the IPCC We are less than 12 years away from not being able to undo our mistakes In that time, unprecedented changes in all aspects of society needs to have taken place including a reduction of our CO2 emissions by at least 50%. And please note that those numbers do not include the aspect of equity which is absolutely necessary to make the Paris Agreement work on a global scale. Nor does it include tipping points or feedback loops like the extreme powerful methane gas being released

1:29:58 from the thawing Arctic permafrost. You notice how they slip in a couple new things here, oh it's the methane gas being released from the melting ice and we're going to die so horribly! At places like Davos people like to tell success stories but their financial success has come with an unthinkable price tag And on climate change we have to acknowledge that we have failed All political movements in their present form have done so. And the media has failed to create broad public awareness, but homo sapiens have not yet failed. Yes we are failing but there is still time to turn everything around. We can still fix this. We still have everything in our own hands. But unless we recognize the overall failures of our current system, we must probably

1:30:48 most probably don't stand a chance. We are facing a disaster of unspoken sufferings for enormous amounts of people and now is not the time for speaking politely or focusing on what we can or cannot say, now is the time to speak clearly. Solving the climate crisis is the greatest and most complex challenge that homo sapiens have ever faced. I'm not quite sure why she keeps saying homo sapiens, obviously we know that's man mankind woman kind people on earth people maybe it is because of the possibility of using the word man oh yes politically correct thank you The main solution however is so simple that even a small child can understand it We have to stop emissions from greenhouse gases and either we do or don't You say nothing in life is black or white

1:31:38 But that is a lie, a very dangerous lie. Either we prevent 1.5 degree of warming or we don't. Either we avoid setting off that irreversible chain reaction beyond human control... ...or we don't! Either we choose to go on as I civilization or we don't That is black and white as it gets There are no grey areas when it comes to survival. Now we all have a choice, we can create transformational action that will safeguard the future living conditions for humankind, or we can continue with our business as usual and fail. That is up to you and me! Some say that we should not engage in activism instead we should leave everything to our politicians and just vote for change instead but what do we do when there is no political will? What do we do when the politics needed are nowhere in sight here in Davos just like everywhere else

1:32:33 Everyone is talking about money. It seems that money and growth are our only main concerns, and since the climate crisis is a crisis that has never once been treated as a crisis People are simply not aware of the full consequences of our everyday life. People are not aware that there is such a thing as a carbon budget and just how incredibly small that remaining carbon budget is. Had you heard of this carbon budget? That's a new term to me Yeah, I looked it up and the carbon budget is... It's kind of reverse-budget The amount of carbon you're allowed to use But here comes the next piece which is very telling And that needs to change today

1:33:14 No other current challenge can match the importance of establishing a wide public awareness and understanding of our rapidly disappearing carbon budget. That should and must become a new global currency at the very heart of future and present economics So carbon becomes the new currency. Thanks kiddo We are now at a time in history where everyone with any insight of the climate crisis that threatens our civilization And the entire biosphere must speak out in clear language, no matter how uncomfortable and unprofitable that may be. We must change almost everything in our current societies the bigger your carbon footprint is the bigger your moral duty the bigger your platform the bigger responsibility adults keep saying we owe it to young people to give them hope

1:34:06 But I don't want your hope. I don't want you to be hopeful, I want you to panic! I want you to feel the fear that i feel everyday and then I want you to act as if you would in a crisis... ...I wanted to act as if the house was on fire. I gotta say, those Google guys have done pretty good on their new AI It's quite convincing. Yeah, they've done a great job with the kids. You know we have them under complete control. We can convince them of anything! Any crazy notion and in fact it's gotten so carried away in Europe and I expect to see this here even though they try to do this year but our kids aren't quite this dumb

1:35:03 But this is the Brussels big student strike over this. Yes, yes yes yes! And in Brussels Belgium an estimated 35 thousand children held a one-day school strike Thursday surrounding the European Parliament building demanding urgent action on climate change it was one of the largest student protests ever in the Belgian capital students said they're ready to skip classes once a week until their demands are met We think that if we skip every Thursday so we don't go to school, the big people in our country and in the world will say that it's a problem and they will do something about it.

1:35:44 The students are following in the footsteps of now 16-year old Greta Thunberg from Sweden, who is leading the school strike movement globally. She is now in Davos, Switzerland dressing leaders at the World Economic Forum. Oh she's 16 I thought she was a little younger. She's dressing leaders! That what you said? Yes instead of addressing he's dressing leaders. Dressing them hey come here all your those pants they gotta go She said to every one of them, all of your pants. And I was so hopeful even saw that nuclear energy was on a couple of the table, a couple of conversations in Davo it's cropped up more and more as a true alternative and right on cue, I'm waiting for our very own atomic Sir Atomic Rod Adams to check in he should be here because he is the guy that turned me onto this lying scumbag

1:36:39 This is a former nuclear regulator of the United States, JAXO. Do you remember this guy? No Okay so uh JASCO He left the nuclear regulatory agency because he was a dick, mainly towards women. But it doesn't matter! He's back no one has a problem with him anymore. He's written the book and you gotta love the subtext of The Confessions Of A Rogue Nuclear Regulator is the title of his book which I think is intended to conjure up images of confession of an economic hitman And of course nuclear

1:37:19 stupidest thing we could do. Oh my god! Whoa, no! Today 98 reactors at 59 commercial nuclear sites in the US provide power across the country using a technology heralded by proponents as a savior from climate change and the key to solving the world's growing energy needs but our next guest says that nuclear power is more hazardous than it is worth and warns that its continued use will lead to catastrophe in this country or somewhere else in the world. Former chairman of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Gregory Yatsko joins us now he's the author a new memoir entitled Confessions Of A Rogue Nuclear Regulator and thank you very much for being on the show

1:38:08 wondering what the exact confessions are, especially given your tenure as NRC Commissioner ended in a little bit of controversy. A little bit! Tell me first why you wrote the book? Well, I wanted people to really understand how this industry was regulated and how it works because this is a technology that's hazardous. It's a technology that at any moment really could lead to the kind of catastrophic accident we saw in Fukushima so i thought people should understand that and as you said people are talking about nuclear power as the savior climate change and that worries me more than the risk of a nuclear power plant accident because they don't think it can rise today

1:38:49 What did he just say? He said something weird there. As you said, people are talking about nuclear power as the savior to climate change and that worries me more than the risk of a nuclear power plant accident because I don't think it can rise to that challenge. So in so more worrying to him then a meltdown of a reactor or something else like that is actually people using nuclear to combat climate change Worse than that, if you really deconstruct what he said. Just talking about it is worse than a meltdown! I got a couple more short clips from this guy from this interview He's using Fukushima, he doesn't even go back to Chernobyl or Three Mile Isle, it was his own Fukushima and

1:39:36 conflating a lot of different things. It was an earthquake right off the coast, it was a tsunami... The tsunami is what triggered the meltdown and the tsunami killed the people, the tsunami made everybody move away but okay. I started in Washington as a physicist so i looked at every issue based on the facts and made hypotheses and revised those hypotheses as I learned new facts The biggest fact that changed my mind was this accident in Fukushima. I saw a hundred thousand people evacuated from their homes, many of them permanently evacuated and you know that's the kind of thing you should never see from from an source that generates electricity. Oh let's see did we ever had any problems with oil? Has it ever been bad for the environment or for people? Let me think... He would also argue oils are bad he didn't- We're talking about a guy

1:40:26 The climate change guy was all in on solar. He doesn't say this, but this is the mentality. Oil bad, nuke bad, solar good wind good. Yeah you got it and moreover we were promised an industry pledge that these kinds of accidents were in the past and here we had one in front of us which I simply couldn't ignore anymore And then I began to realize then that this is a technology That simply was too hazardous to really be a future technology So just stop all developments. It could never be any good, it's no good...it ruined Japan. Yes so there is really the area around the plant that are still uninhabitable most of those people who were evacuated can't return to their homes or won't return to their homes so lives have been disrupted

1:41:12 In a way that we think about more with wars than with energy generation. And you have a lot of radioactive water that's being stored at the site, people really don't know what to do with it so it'll be decades before this really gets... And just how likely could something like this happen in the United States? You know, it's so hard to predict. Plants kind of operate always on this precipice of normal operation on one side and catastrophic failure on the other But what we know is the accidents will happen. It's just a question of when and where, and it's hard to predict which is why the industry often touts that everything's fine. So his solution to... Sorry go ahead. Because it rarely happens there are three major incidents. Yeah Chernobyl Three Mile Island Fukushima yeah how many years has been I mean nuclear power probably began in

1:42:00 in earnest, at least the discussions in the late 50s. I mean Mika could have brought up France and they're trying to shut those down. That's Macron you know that guy... Well our buddy here has some solutions and if I'm not mistaken isn't solar energy subsidized by the government? Yeah, I think it most of it is Elon Musk's cars were certainly subsidized by the government. So there's all kinds of electrical stuff that subsidize Well you did a whole take down of wind powers subsidies and the views equipment and all the rest of it well listen to his last bit here so for people who are oh so as a part of morning Joe like I guess they bring in the BBC USA woman

1:42:50 Katie or Kathy, whatever her name is. I don't know why she's there but she gets to ask a question. So for people who are trying to find a counter to fossil fuels in the fight against global warming having nuclear power written off like this is kind of depressing because this was the hope right that nuclear power could be made safer and it could be the counter in our effort to keep global temperatures from going up if you weigh the risks of higher global temperatures because of fossil fuel increased usage and nuclear power, you still come down firmly in the favor of non-nuclear power. So she's got a good point here!

1:43:25 Except for the you know, the accidents even with that. I mean is this not a good idea to try this? Yeah yeah, I mean I think that's a false choice because the realities are right now in the marketplace cleaner Sun wind geothermal these technologies are actually in some cases cheaper than nuclear and they're getting cheaper much much faster So I actually think the future is pretty hopeful But what we need to do is really let the markets decide and kind of get out of the way of subsidizing to try and keep them around because the reason people are doing that is to keep the reactors around. They're not really doing it to deal with climate change, because if you want to deal with climate change, you just have to let the market decide and then you need to do things with gas to maybe make gas a little bit more expensive. And if you do that, the things that are going to fill in is really wind sun and geothermal It's not nuclear! That's what we're seeing here in the U.S., throughout the rest of the world. Except...it's NOT TRUE!!!

1:44:20 God I hate this guy. It's such a dick we've done a live should I gotta do it since he's back on the scene? I'm gonna follow him because he was he was expelled you know for be basically a me too moment it wasn't long after that maybe just before the show started I'm trying to think No, it was 2012 when he announced his resignation. But it was because people complained he was a dick especially female subordinates one woman told me she felt the chairman was actually irritated with someone else but took it out on her I mean this guy would have been excoriated and Mika Brzezinski just says oh yeah there's always a little bit of controversy no problem all paid all big it said big this is business your big oil money right here that should be going to money that could be

1:45:14 There's a possibility that exists that oil is behind this guy. You think? Well, I mean there has to be some explanation. It doesn't seem like a guy especially if he was a masher or whatever it was... Masher! ...that he'd kind of be a crunchy guy. Doesn't seem too logical. I got another you do something and like another present. Yeah, I gotta do I got a couple things No checks report right? I want to play clips and I want to make a commentary Oh checks what checks we are we getting checks what checks

1:45:50 Well, we'll listen to some of these no checks reports. All right! No checks. Let's start with... let's do the longest one. Let's do a no-checks report FBI ATC. Kathy Kalani is an IRS worker in Florida and I want to believe and I pray that the politicians in Washington will do this economy and everybody right by doing the right thing hours before the president's announcement the shutdown was escalating Right on the Bravo in the Northeast today air traffic reduced to a trickle. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes another 20 to 30 minutes before we come become airborne after a number of air traffic controllers called in sick when they probably saw her second zero paycheck that probably put so much stress on them and they're not fit for duty if their overstressed New York's LaGuardia airport brought to a standstill got totally sympathetic to them because

1:46:43 You can't operate a business that way. Meanwhile, pressure was also building at the FBI. It takes a lot to get me angry but I'm about as angry as I've been in a long long time. FBI Director Chris Wray today told 32 thousand employees it was unfair and short-sighted to make them work without pay An IRS backlash has also been building. 14,000 workers called in sick this week after being called back to work without pay among them Lori Wilcox in Utah who fears she'll be furloughed again next month We're terrified that we're gonna lose our house lose our cars You know This was a pretty slick move and I think this is why Trump quote-unquote caved

1:47:28 What I understand that from the Union, the air traffic controllers union and perhaps more of the well certainly air traffic controllers. That something like a quarter of them or mid 20 to 25 percent are working but they're completely eligible for To take their pension and to retire And that I think there was some noise like, oh we're going to have 20% walk off the job and just take their pension and never come back. Now that's a possibility but that's kind of not going to be my point. Um...I want to play another one of these clips this is The No Checks Report NBC belt buckles

1:48:06 And Los Angeles furloughed FAA inspector Curtis Calabrese is expecting back pay but says the political tug-of-war should have never happened in the first place. This all began over debate for a wall, right? Has it been worth it to weigh that against the safety of the American people that are flying every day? Is that worth it? Absolutely not! In Washington, D.C., some agree... I don't think it was worth it. What did you accomplish? Nothing Back in Colorado single mom Devon Lentz lost her job at the belt buckle shop. I don't see myself going back to work before the end of February until something is truly signed and done Families caught where politics turns personal Morgan Chesky NBC News Let's go this one

1:48:55 I get no checks, I get the FBI, no checks report NBC. This is shorty Federal workers like Carla Davis a grant processor at Housing and Urban Development need a little more help waiting on back pay. I'm glad it's over but i still don't feel safe like three weeks is not a long time And then let's go to No Checks Report, Random Democracy Now with Coast Guard Kicker. This comes as some 800,000 federal workers who've been furloughed or forced to work without pay for over a month will miss a second paycheck today. Federal workers are increasingly turning to food pantries if they struggle to pay for housing food and other basic needs among them more than 40,000 active

1:49:43 duty members of the US Coast Guard. This is Coast Guard Commandant Admiral Karl Schultz. I find it unacceptable that Coast Guard men and women have to rely on food pantries and donations to get through day-to-day life as service members. Okay, let's just stop here. I got a million of them but let's listen to these and now analyze these things we've got Guys in the Coast Guard, guys in the FBI, ATC everybody and they're gonna miss a second check. And one woman as you heard says we're going to lose our house, we're going to lose our cars... Yeah it's total bullshit! Is it? Yes yes it is and I have I think I have some proof. Well may or may not be but what their message they are sending us that this economy

1:50:32 is so weak and so flaky that you can't miss one or two, let's say two paychecks without losing your house your car and everything in between? Yeah. That's what they're saying. I mean if that's the case... You can prove it's not the case and that would be fine because i don't believe it is either You can prove that's the case, but if that is the case of these people are so bent out of shape about this over the one or two lost paychecks which tells me too many people and I'm assuming there is some truth to this. Too many people who are making good money working for government it's not like a lousy paying job working for the federal government in particular

1:51:15 They're living paycheck to paycheck? What happens if we have an actual economic collapse. We're all going to die! I would think so, if you are working for the federal government and you've been working there let's assume for some time that you have cars and a house that doesn't mean you started yesterday and you can lose all these things overnight because of a missed paycheck? No. This is not a good signal, and I don't... That's also not true in this case. If our economy tanked and people miss paychecks yes, I think there are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck because they're on the credit bandwagon and are overextended and have been this way for decades

1:52:03 And this is what the system is, you know. Watch TV? Oh I gotta buy this stuff that I can't afford! Buy it with money I don't have go back to my job repeat cycle yeah I think that's real yes I do well this is not a good signal It's not and the worst now let me give another worse aspect of this Whenever you're ready I want to prove that its bullshit these reports are bullshit That's what I'd like to hear Okay lemme finish this then Democracy now had a bunch of clips from Wilbur Ross. Yes, that's exactly where I want to go! Well, Ross comes on and of course she takes it from the perspective of why listen to this guy? He's worth $700 million. What does he know about somebody getting a paycheck? So I want to play the two clips. This is DN Democracy Now versus the bridge loan idea that he has. Meanwhile President Trump's Commerce Secretary multi-millionaire investor Wilbur Ross said

1:53:00 Thursday federal workers should simply take out bridge loans until they get paid. Ross was being questioned by CNBC anchor Andrew Ross Sorkin There are reports that there are some federal workers who are going to homeless shelters, to get food. Well I know they are and i don't really quite understand why because as i mentioned before the obligations that they would undertake say a borrowing from a bank or credit union are in effect federally guaranteed I can't wait to start. I'm waiting for you. So that's the starting and then she goes to number two, and instead of saying here's the...I'll tell you what really bothers me then you can play your clips. Let's play the second part where all she does is just give Wilbur Ross crap for being a rich guy. So these 30 days of pay that some people will be out

1:53:53 There's no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan against it. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, whose net worth is estimated around $700 million also diminished the financial hardship faced by unpaid federal workers 800,000 workers if they never got their pay which is not the case they will eventually get it but if they never got it you're talking about a third of a percent on our GDP so it's not like it's a gigantic number overall. All right now she mocks him for being rich and she goes on and she thinks this is crazy

1:54:39 If Ross is right and you can just get a guaranteed bridge loan, which I guess a lot of people don't know what a bridge loan is and they probably don't go to a bank or—I have no idea what the problem is here. Instead of educating the public, here if you've lost your job let us explain to you how you can go to your bank and get this guaranteed according to Ross, guaranteed federal bridge loan to keep you afloat instead of coming on NBC or Democracy Now! Or any of these other stations and moaning and groaning like that one woman did about she's gonna lose her house. And they're gonna lose their cars. They got nothing they can do. John? And instead of saying well that's not true

1:55:19 You can do this and we'll show you how. No, no they just ridicule because it's all something to do with Trump. I find that the whole thing is not useful. And you will really despise it when I unveil the rest of Democracy Now! did exactly what Don Lamond does on CNN. I'll just play a little bit he had to clip about the same thing 800,000 oh he doesn't give a shit about these people and here's here is about the loans listen there are reports that there are some federal workers who are going to homeless shelters to get food let me fast forward well i know they are and uh we already heard this part shouldn't be able to get alone against it

1:56:09 That is the most elite, out of touch thing that I have ever heard in my life. In all my years ever on this earth. Ever on this earth! Ever! That is the most insulting thing that I've ever heard The most elite, elitist however you want to put it Thing that I've ever heard. I could not believe it. I had to go back and say I gotta find this on the internet Is this true? Hey You folks who aren't getting paid Go take out a loan. Take out alone Here's what he's saying, okay follow along with me take out a loan for the money that you've earned The money that we owe you

1:56:50 because we really have no idea when you're going to get paid even though a lot of you are still on the job. So yeah, take out a loan pay interest just to get the money that we owe you and the Commerce Secretary may know where you can get alone because this department's federal credit union is offering emergency loans at almost 9% interest nine percent according to The Washington Post So it's generally the same story. What an elitist rich prick, last night Saturday- I didn't clip it because without the visual doesn't work but Kate McKinnon whatever name is now she's taken her character and she did Wilbur Ross very well as a creepy elitist A-hole

1:57:40 Which he does come across but it's disingenuous from Amy and from Don and everybody Because it's only a part of what he said you might be surprised He said a little bit more, and I did some checking on it Wilbur Ross was on CNBC. It's a business news network, it's not the fast-paced CNN Fox News MSNBC Democracy Now War and Peace Report where everybody is already made for television and gets their point out in 10 seconds. Wilbur Ross said something very important as part of this suggestion Mr Secretary many of these workers clearly need the paycheck I'm going to fast forward a bit because we've heard this three times now here we go

1:58:21 First of all, the banks and the credit union should be making credit available to them. When you think about it these are basically government guaranteed loans because the government has committed these folks will get their back pay once this whole thing gets settled down So there really is not a good excuse why there really should be a liquidity crisis. Now true, that people might have to pay a little bit of interest but the idea that it's paycheck or zero is not a really valid idea. There's no reason why some institution wouldn't be willing to lend and indeed we've heard tales of some of the government... So it should put on the private sector?

1:59:11 The private sector needs to step up where the public sector can't? No, what I'm saying is there have been ads run by a number of the public sector credit unions which are member organizations of the people who work in the departments. Those have announced very, very low interest rate loans to bridge people over the gap. Oh wait a minute! I guess Don and Amy didn't hear that part when i went and looked... And if you look for local news reports All across America, this is what you heard. The phrase living paycheck to paycheck is a stark reality for many Americans as thousands of Ohioans are figuring out how to pay their bills while their next payday is uncertain This is from January 3rd Here in the Miami Valley, Dayer Credit Union is offering assistance of their own to these impacted workers

2:00:04 Preferably, our members would have direct deposit coming in here to the credit union. It's very easy for us to look and see what that dollar amount is and then we can match a loan amount to that direct deposit zero percent interest for 30 days." If direct deposit is not available, a current pay stub may be required to get the loan after thirty days prevailing interest could begin to kick-in but Theobald says they will look at their program if that becomes an issue Right now he says it is mostly Department of Transportation employees seeking assistance, but anticipates many more at the partial government shutdown. Now this is their own credit union called Day Air Let's go to San Diego let's just see if there was any issues there with credit unions While Washington stalemate Our phones have been ringing off the hook Things are busy for Cabrillo Credit Union

2:00:51 people are scared. But it's something they've dealt with before we've been through multiple furloughs, multiple government shutdowns over the years and the San Diego founded business is loaning government employees their paycheck value with no interest until the shut down is over federal employees they weren't expecting this I mean I can play 18 of these clips all the credit unions local news the chicken shit news subverted this, obfuscated and they just found either idiots or people who are willing participants to cry whereas every single one of these credit unions it's not a familiar concept in the rest of the world but go look at what a credit union does. They're also part of these organizations themselves! Yeah it's very hard to work within any government operation I can say that as someone who knows...I was a member of the San Francisco City Workers Credit Union

2:01:41 Because if you're a government worker, there's a credit union attached to what you do. If you're in the armed forces, there is a credit union attached to what you do and these credit unions do what these clips are telling. This is... Meanwhile... I'm really mad about this because Amy and everyone they did not play everything the guy said! Besides that It was the Don Lemon one that was the eye-opener. First he mocked the whole idea of going to the bank, and I don't even care whether you played the whole thing or not You can go to the bank and get bridge loans it's not that big a deal And then he emphasized... Washington Post!

2:02:19 Bull crap article, but oh yeah it's 9%. Thank you. Were they going to payday loans? What kind of a loan are we talking about here? So that was a bullcrap report so these are blatant lies by the big boys! Yeah and done on purpose Purposely. I mean, okay, I totally believe Don Lemon just looked at the clip Just a one little clip that everyone was passing around on social media and obviously democracy now is no better Just that clip just make fun of the asshole old guy NBC Saturday Night Live Make him look like he's death himself Guy definitely does not have a media presence That is very helpful to what what is going on here

2:03:04 But it's disingenuous and really just a lie to say that people couldn't get any money at all. I'm going to lose my car! I'm gonna lose my house! Bullshit! That was on NBC, NBC You say that like it means something anymore Well, it did. They have more reach than we do! And I commend every single credit union...I love credit unions! Hey banks can do this too. No banks- I love credit unions. I think credit unions are better than banks. I'm not going to argue that point but

2:03:43 These, this can be done at a bank level if you have good relationship with the bank. But according to the way Don Lemon sees it this is an elitist thing! You're too stupid to go to a bank? Well how did you get your car well you got your car probably from GMAC maybe you did it John I've, I've, the UFCU uh University Federal Credit Union I'm like, you know let me...I don't..I ran the Airstream through there so i don't really do that much business with them anymore but like why don't I go take a look and see. And yeah low and behold they said it right there we can offer you zero percent loan. Right in my bill or the statement. The paper? The statement We can offer you 0% loan if your furloughed or not getting a check due to the shutdown Contact us will be happy to help you

2:04:33 So, so it is just a lie. And it doesn't matter because that's just what we'll always think forever and I will just be that will be the truth from now on out and It's too bad that this little podcast doesn't have enough reach to let the world know how really disgusting this reporting was across the board right down The Washington Post Yeah, well none of it unexpected since this just seems to be just all Trump hate. Yes and they're not giving the public actual information that's valuable. And your point is very valid because I know that's what your point was, it's like instead of doing this whole what an asshole? What an elitist! What a dick you know yeah do a little story which local news was all over we're talking three weeks ago they were already doing this this has been and you can just look it up go to YouTube and local report after local report with credit unions with their local guys say hey we're gonna help everybody out not a problem

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2:18:28 Let's see I had a couple things that were kind of interesting. Oh, yeah want to you want the 5g report now? Are you ready for the 5G report sure okay well first of all we gotta i don't know if You saw this email and forget which producer sent this uh but he it turns out pc magazine is now uh It's whenever they have an um a news story They tweeted out and the tweet is PC Magazine and Qualcomm. You see, they're now the main sponsor. So if you look at your email you'll see PCMag with Qualcomm sponsored Here's a look at the four biggest changes to come for smartphones and mobile devices 5G it's coming in 2019 And it's gonna change your life

2:19:19 Just another data point and why that same article appeared in mashable which they also own now right? Presented by Qualcomm who are the company when it comes to 5g radio company. That is the company It could be the downfall of Qualcomm well, you know I gotta tell you, we've been talking about this. You think it may not happen? I think we're too late! And all this went down in 2017. Austin already has 5G transmitters, now it's the AT&T version whatever the heck that means there's 500 in Dallas 300 in Houston It's already done! It-it's over... it's under way. Okay you got other problems in Berkeley

2:20:16 Here is the report from 2017 just before the vote was made and really the only thing that Austin was pushing back on is how much money they would get per cell installed. That's the only thing, and when you hear... we're in session here at the legislature And it's in the whole town is filled with money people just walking around just doling out cash left and right So this is a report from 2017. So you kind of get a background as to how long this has been playing the future of wireless technology Especially for 5g will be ran through little cell towers across cities known as nodes There aren't any up-and-running in Austin just yet

2:20:56 But several hundred are expected after city officials came to an agreement with major telecommunications companies in October. That agreement has Austin getting $1,500 per node per year and that could change. The legislature is weighing in... That's Adler our fake mayor ...with considerable weight Mayor Adler is worried about a bill scheduled for a vote Wednesday that could cap the fee at $250 for each device every year, losing big money for the city. Austin would also lose some control about where these devices are placed on public land. Now the legislature is stepping in

2:21:32 and taking what is highly coveted public space, and turning it into cheap utility corridors. So far the bill has nearly unanimous support at the Capitol. I'd say give our customers an effortless wireless customer experience AT&T is a major supporter of the bill and says its necessary to bring tomorrow's technology to Texas quickly Things like 4k video, the internet of things, connected cars Smart cities, they all start with 5G. It's a fight over money and who calls the shots for 5g coming to cities in Texas So that was 2017 the bill passed of course The 20 second do I was listening to that it sounded like they were gonna get $1500 per node Yeah And then it went down to 250 and that's what passed no That's not what passed it passed at 750

2:22:23 But that was $1,500. No that's what they wanted the lobbyists wouldn't pay... The lobbyist paid everyone off to move it down! Oh that's what you do? Yeah so it wasn't about is it safe should we have it is it effective is a good for us no just how much money is the city gonna get that was the only question um the 20 000 satellites To date, here- these are the 5G satellites. Let me just tell you what's already been deployed SpaceX has deployed half of their 12,000 satellite allotment One web is looking at 45... 4,560 Boeing is just under 3,000 and Spire Global Oh I don't know who that is They're looking at 972 5G

2:23:10 300, they're saying 300 watts. I find that hard to believe that's what they're going to be pumping from outer space and what power they are going to use for that but i don't know we went to the moon Tom Wheeler who was then FCC chairman in 2016 did a speech which I cannot find the original from sadly because of what he says now this is three years ago What he says in this speech at The National Press Club which is why I find it weird I can't find the original And it has some music mixed in it, which is pisses me off. But it's pretty much unedited as far as I can tell but even the things he's saying are clear enough This is what he was touting to the press club in 2016 That's that's people in DC who are supposed to report on these things The big game changer

2:23:56 is that 5G will use much higher frequency bands than previously thought viable for mobile broadband and other applications. Such millimeter wave signals have physical properties that are both a limitation and strength, they tend to travel best in narrow and straight lines and they do not go through physical objects as well But brilliant engineers have developed new antennas that can aim and amplify signals. Now to make this work, the 5G build-out is going to be very infrastructure intensive requiring massive deployment of small cells I'm confident that the antennas will lead to a cornucopia of unanticipated

2:24:42 innovative uses and will generate tens of billions of dollars in economic activity. And that's damn important because it means that US companies will be the first out of the gate, and that is why 5G is a national priority and stay out of the way of technological development unlike some countries We do not believe that we should spend the next couple of years studying what 5g should be how it should operate. Or if it's safe, the future has a way of inventing itself turning innovators loose is far preferable to expecting committees and regulators to define the future. We won't wait for the standards. Okay, already seeing industry here.

2:25:36 Fuck the standards! Many of the high frequency bands that we will make available for 5G currently have some satellite users as well as some Defense Department applications or at least a possibility of future satellite and defense users. This means sharing will be required between satellites and terrestrial wireless, an issue that is especially relevant in the 28 gigahertz band but if anyone tells you they know the details on what 5G is going to become

2:26:20 Run the other way. If something can be connected, it will be connected. Hundreds of billions of microchips connected in products from pill bottles fifth The biggest internet of things application has yet to be imagined. That was the FCC chairman at the time, I think his words are pretty clear and all these municipalities all they were thinking about is can I get the 1500 instead of the 250?

2:27:19 I didn't think about anything else. And I had forgotten about the capability of RFID to connect at short distance to these 5G spots, which will be everywhere and it truly becomes a kind of cool Spy grid. It's quite mind-boggling in that aspect I think he is right, but to say this is not happening or some reports of your home value going down or health? I don't think it's unstoppable That video you and I watched over the weekend This is what it is They're banking the future on this The money expansion capitalist system of liberal bankers Is this

2:28:03 That's that's what they put all the climate change. Yeah, it kind of doesn't work stupid Trump But even Trump is dumb enough to fall for this well that dad I will say yes Well anybody generally speaking that generation is gonna be too dumb to realize the issues with this technology but okay we'll see I Have high hopes that there'll be enough action, and I'm seeing a lot more action on this than I've seen in a lot of different things. Squeaky wheels and I think a lot of it's going to come from California. Yeah probably. Texas apparently just knuckles under to any two bit some guy comes in hey this guy came in and he offered me 10 cents to do this? I'll take it as better no ten cents

2:29:00 Wow, that was really quite awesome of you to do there in California. Now I'm hoping for an earthquake so y'all can die! Well you can wish for all you want but i got my 10 cents. I hope the fires reach your house Dvorak! Just racist man just... How's it racist? Hey It's white privilege Oh I'm sorry we're rednecks down here yeah We are whiteneck privilege stop it I'm gonna, uh...I bet you'll find some 5G in Berkeley. You know it's already happening. Yeah! Okay. That'd be the last place to do 5G But it's coming It's coming

2:29:42 And they're gonna place it at your house first because, you know, they de-platformed you over your negative article. Yeah what am I going to do about it? So the first thing they can do is like hey Dvorak look out the window baby! You won't see mud flats you'll just see this beam of light coming into ya soft skin under your eyes and it's gonna be all over me. I already got the tinfoil so... That will help actually I just have an oddball clip. Okay, well actually this is the end of show Well then let me just play and I'm I have a background if we want to listen to it But we didn't get too Kind of an important part of Brexit even though brexit isn't really the story but France and Germany signed the Treaty of Aachen Now two weeks ago

2:30:28 and the treaty of Aachen. Aachen? Like this city? A-A-C-H-E-N. Yeah, it's a city. The treaty of Aachen yes I know it's a city the Treaty of Aachen and this treaty brings the Germans and French even closer together, which is kind of what the whole Brexit thing we don't want. The whole idea of the European Union yeah it's like we really don't want people pairing off like Germany and France being all buddy-buddy and it specifically states they will do more to share military resources I mean very little coverage you got coverage in Europe

2:31:09 And if you want, I have a two-minute backgrounder which is kind of interesting just from a historical... Actually all during this process they drilled a nice underground tunnel so they could invade Britain. Easily! Quickly quickly easily You want to hear this little background or 2 minutes? It's history lesson okay here we go France's president Emmanuel Macron is really speaking German and the German Chancellor Angela Merkel is speaking French During their mutual visit to the French-German Youth Center last summer, they were clearly among friends. But it wasn't always this way... Shortly before the end of the Second World War, French soldiers moved into southern Germany. This after Hitler had occupied and humiliated France for years. German soldiers became French prisoners of war and it looked as if these tried and true enemies would always be at war with each other. But the head of the French military troops was Charles de Gaulle And ten year later when he became president

2:32:04 he had great plans. While at his private country residence, Colombelle des Eglises, he shook hands with West Germany's post-war Chancellor, Konrad Adenauer and in 1963 the two of them signed the LSE Treaty of German French Friendship President de Gaulle wanted to join forces with his German partner to become a world power. And 18 years after the end of the Nazis, the young West German Republic wanted to return to the community of nations and renew friendships with their European democratic allies. The West Germans celebrated! The key to this newfound friendship was young people who were untouched by hatred that motivated their parents. The German-French Youth Project was founded

2:32:45 And even today it brings together more than 9 million members from both countries through its exchange program. The Chancellor and the President planned a common political agenda in Europe, and the world. Good friends Valérie Giscard d'Estaing and Helmut Schmidt found a coalition of the seven most important industrial nations in the world – the G7 In 1984 President François Mitterrand and Chancellor Helmut Kohl shook hands in Verdun close to the graves of the first world war. They wanted to show Europe that their worst enemies had become closest allies. Today Germany and France continue to meet daily, to discuss European policy. They even cooperate militarily on weapons programs and in conflict zones such as Mali. It's an alliance that 80 years ago nobody would have thought possible."

2:33:34 The French don't donate to the show, I will give you some advice. Uh...I would lock up my bike." Just saying! I'm from Holland, you know? We got some experience with that. So— But isn't— Weren't the Dutch and Germans always good buddies until that war broke out and they stole all of their bikes? Yeah, they're still looking for their bike back. I know. They went after Anne Frank. Oh God, don't get me started. Go on… No, I had that. We have a pretty eclectic mix of end-of-show mixes so we can do one or two more clips and then we'll get into that. Yeah, I got a couple clips but i'm gonna just go with the one

2:34:19 And it's going to be, this is Michael Bennett. He's from Colorado and he a senator and he made so he had to go on the Senate floor to bitching moan about Trump. Oh I heard this yeah! It was on there for 20 minutes it was like a filibuster of some sort. Is he Republican or Democrat? Sorry? He's a Republican Democrat. Okay, and I think he was drunk. Ha! I don't know about that... Drunk on power maybe Well let's play this clip This idea that he was gonna build a medieval wall across the southern border of Texas take it from the farmers and ranchers that were there AND have the Mexicans pay for it isn't true That's why we're here

2:35:07 And I could you know, I listen to MSNBC most of the time during the day just it's the most entertaining thing You can imagine and he did some interviews and they were like all jitty on a man like eyes gray Wow. I mean you really spoke truth to power Power man was really fantastic. It's not true. Hey, I found the will heard clip that I was missing on the last show. Oh, okay about about the smart wall and well let's listen to this when we talk about the physical barriers like i have as you said 800 miles of water border excuse me and I've always said building a wall from sea to shining sea doesn't make sense

2:35:47 But in certain places, it does make sense. So whether it's urban to urban contact we need technology We need be looking at all 2 000 miles of border at the same time The only way you can do that is technology. We need additional manpower And so there's already a bill that most democrats have voted on It's called the secure fact uh the secure fence act and it was amended two years later In that amended bill All the leadership, the Democratic leadership right now have already voted on it. There's been much publicized about how Senator Obama at the time and Senator Clinton at the time had voted for this. This should be the framework and there is much physical barriers that weren't completed in that

2:36:26 These Dems already voted on that. That should be the framework from which we are looking, have the technology make sure we double down on our ports of entry as we should know everything that goes back and forth across our border The head of Department Homeland Security should be able to say I want to know what's going at mile marker 36 And this should be able to pop up. I'm not describing some futuristic Star Trek episode I'm describing that this is technology that exists today that we should be using along the border We're not right now But there's programs that are in existence that could do that but they can't move forward because we're in the middle of a shutdown. Look, I spent almost a decade as an undercover officer in the CIA. I was the guy in the back alleys collecting intelligence on threats to our homeland." Wow! That's not how most spooks I know talk. Hey man, I was that guy in the dark alley like protecting you from the terrorists

2:37:14 Sounds a little, little too much to me. stopping nuclear weapons proliferators. This is what I did." And when you look, we got to remember the drug trafficking organizations and kingpin human smugglers that are operating in Mexico they don't have to worry about government shutdowns. They're making $67 billion a year in the United States and guess what? The US intelligence budget is only 61 billion so we have to have a look at every mile of border and make sure we're using the right tools for that

2:37:58 part of the border because every mile is different. That's something I've seen having the largest amount of border of anyone in Congress. some version of a combo. One of our producers, who wanted to remain anonymous has actually worked with these fiber optic listening cables he says they're really incredibly good you can hear...you can pinpoint exactly it's vibrations that picks up all kinds of stuff He says it is very very good the problem is It doesn't stop anybody just alerts you to something thats happening

2:38:35 It's somehow yeah, and Trump is kind of simplistic in that way He's like now if you run and you hit the wall it stops you but I think Herds basic ideas probably what was coming down because it were hearing more and more like well wait a minute You know the Democrats actually voted for this stuff. You know no this does all been play. I don't know why they don't just exploit it Orange man bad They are it is being exploited To make orange man look better Orange Man bad all right yes, all right everybody. I think we've earned our stripes for today I want to thank Danny loose Tom's dark weather and Alex who helped them out gallop Sir Chris Wilson of course for the end-of-show mixes a fantastic lineup today And i'll play the the love hate trumps on the next too many clips on the next show

2:39:35 And Thursday, Super Bowl predictions. We'll do that up from a geopolitical... standpoint and for now coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the five by nine Cluedio in the common law condo In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry man from northern Silicon Valley plain and simple. I'm John C Dvorak We return on Thursday with another edition of The Best Podcast in the Universe remember us at Dvorak org slash na until then adios mofos and such

2:40:28 Once upon a time you did a crime, told a lie to the FBI. Didn't you? Mule or troll he wants it all You're about to fall, you thought they were kidding you! You used to laugh at everybody who had laughed it out Now you don't talk so loud As you're like mushroom clouds, CNN's reaming their next newsreel. How does it feel to be dragged from your home and to the block that you're from? Like a roger stone!

2:41:43 The president has agreed to our request to open the government and then debate border security. And one of my dogs is still traumatized, will not come out from under the bed and won't stop shaking No one should ever underestimate the speaker as Donald Trump. She said that she was going to dog walk me and you know viewers can look up on Urban Dictionary what dog walking someone means but to put it simply, it's just severely beat somebody else We have a doggie park at the hotel And I'm gonna take him for a little walk Thank You Have a good time I'll be back in a few minutes Okay Good

2:42:21 The president is clearly concerned about how this development is being viewed politically, especially because... Can't do that then we'll do obviously the emergency. Because that's what it is. It's like giving you a bowl of doggie doo. Put a cherry on top and call it a chocolate sundae, this is nothing! And one of my dogs is still traumatized will not come out from under the bed and won't stop shaking You take your dog to go outside its freezing and you walk around for awhile and that's not that easy Okay be careful Oh, hello there. Oh my goodness! I'm here to walk your dog. No deal. If you don't want to have no deal then you have to ensure that you have a deal. Now maybe Hitler was a baby? If you don't want to have no... Now that would mean staying in the European Union

2:43:27 They need to respect the result of the referendum. And that is no deal! There never is a Hitler. Maybe Hitler was a baby? There never was going to be a deal, there never is for Hitler and the truth is that no pro-life person on earth would kill Baby Hitler. Really? The person on earth would kill baby Hitler, right? Because baby Hitler wasn't Hitler.

2:44:09 Now laugh with me, if you don't want to have no can't have But there never is going to be a deal But there never is going then Thank You Well I'm worried because I put those device in my house Maybe as a baby? Dolphin If you don't want to have no But there never is going to We can't have no deal. I'm ready presumably for that he's going to be a dear. Designed because Feige is designed to deliver. Not all I want to do with baby Hitler is take baby Hitler, adult Hitler was Hitler. In the European Union. Can't know if you don't want to assure the house businesses and background radiations. We can't have no deal

2:44:55 We use our magical retrokinsmas. I need the baby. No deal stands, Lawrence. Because I put no device in my house. What the f*** is making me? 1932 is here! In the moment... This was the threat they made. The threat they made was hate kills, like... One upgrade each game? One upgrade each skull! The trash comeback! This is a bunch of scum bags in the moment! Oh you f***ing fool! They can not use your little soft box!

2:46:12 There's a war on alternative media.