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00:00 What's a Dumbledore who's listening? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah! Proud to be the other Curry and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In The Cluedio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And for Northern Silicon Valley where the train hasn't showed up yet but the traffic has...I'm John C. DeBoren It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! You got the traffic Traffic is about to get really good here in Austin

00:39 Oh, that's good news. No! It is very bad news. The traffic in Austin is already horrible and today we hear this announcement Apple now saying it's going to invest a billion dollars in new campus in Austin Texas the campus will be 133 acres and will accommodate 5,000 employees at first with capacity for up to 15 thousand in total will be located less than a mile from apples existing Texas facilities and make it the largest private employer in Austin. Apple says it will house a range of jobs and engineering, R&D operations finance sales and customer support company also expanding its operations adding more than 1,000 jobs in Seattle San Diego and Culver City California as well so it isn't

01:25 an HQ2 Amazon style but it's a big investment in Austin. Austin is already their biggest outpost outside of headquarters I think they have something like 6,000 people there already. I spent time with them last year and the...I mean Austin is just such robust city when comes to technology this its pretty remarkable what's going on there. Oh! It's remarkable what's going on here has nothing to do with technology This is the people part of the business get real CNBC This is the payroll, accountants content management no technology it's all the sales support I know people who work here. It's like this the store supports of the support for the stores themselves who have a lot of issues all of this that this is people town not exciting stay away

02:21 I think they put them in South Carolina or someplace where people are pleasant. Yeah, but the problem is we have such a sweet voice and we have such a fantastic tax structure in the state of Texas. Oh yes there you go! You see this is why you put the people here That's what it's about. Yeah, they don't have to pay personal income tax on a state level. It's great for California. It's like 10 plus percent 10-13% state tax. So where would you rather live if you're making a lot of money at Apple? Well Northwest Austin apparently I thought you said the traffic's gonna get better. That's what i thought you said Oh no, no it'll just get worse This has got to be a... It's already a mess there! It's gotta be the worst thing is going to become worse than anywhere Yeah The 405 will be looking looked at as wow this is cool he can go so fast yeah I don't think we're in any danger of that happening but dream on California boy it still it's not good and I'm not very happy with his development We're moving out of downtown that's for sure

03:25 Where are you going? Well, either we move really nearby south of the river or maybe we'll go really south. Maybe we'll go to Dripping Springs or somewhere just way out of the way. Dripping Springs is nice! Dripping Springs... Why does that sound like some sick person?! That's where all the rock stars live man! Dripping Springs yes uh-huh Wow, yeah I know is great. Yeah go down and move down there with them. Yeah maybe we'll see. We'll see. Hey bangers ball Now where does that come up because of all the old rock stars? No yeah hey everybody Adam Curry here in Dripping Springs Yeah, I'll go over well Ripping Springs

04:17 There's a lot of things going on in the world, although you wouldn't know it if you watched American television news. No we're pretty preoccupied with Cohen. Cohen is going to jail for three years! And Trump is going to jail everyone's gonna jail yeah Trump's going to jail he'll be locked up Lock him up. Yeah, exactly Again just completely unwatchable on what the only thing that was watchable was the and I liked it a lot Was the little show that? Trump Pelosi and Schumer put on in the office pretty entertaining Everybody who went to it thought it wasn't retaining and they said oh, I've never seen anything like you well there You have it did with I think that's the way it should always go Everything should be new no everything should be out in the open and

05:01 Yeah, and what was really- Yeah it shows you what a douchebag. I mean Schumer's sitting there rocking like he's got Asperger's and he barely looks at the president once in awhile And then he says stupid stuff that he thinks is funny What's interesting- Pelosi repeats herself? And she's stammering and she's upset about everything for no good reason He's goading two of them What i found interesting was How at least on Twitter which is kind of the only place I can still go and find some outrage It was you know, the classic two sides everyone saw it in their own favorable light the Trump the Trump fans Died he wiped the floor with him

05:45 The Pelosi Schumer fans, oh he hit a brick wall! She showed him. It was completely open to interpretation which I think is just one of the interesting things of our time Yeah no it's become quite interesting I agree. I thought the medias because this was like...I think the full episode of The Reality Show lasted about 10 minutes What i found interesting how it was cut up And what pieces were pulled out and the one that I'll have That I'll play for you is what the BBC did with it Oh, there's a big nice contrast with what CBS did with it. Which is what? I have do you want to do this BBC first or CBS Let's think what would be they're probably very? Actually BBC I think hates Trump more let's go at CBS which is a long clip of

06:38 Okay, because they really got such a kick out of it and by the way that I'm not sure even have the intro on this clip but it's It's funny. It's pretty funny. And then we have the easy one, the wall that'll be the one that will be the easiest of all That was President Trumps attempt at a joke in his first face-to-face meeting with Democratic leaders after the midterm elections and with a partial government shutdown 10 days away The shut down is not worth anything and you should not have a Trump Shutdown Democrats came to the White House hoping to... Yeah that was kind of glossed over but

07:16 She she I thought that was very good what she did. She kind of basically pulled a Trump on him and said Oh, we can't afford a Trump shutdown and he caught it. Well, he called her out on it Yeah But but you know, he's it was it was very it was inaudible and CBS just glossed right over here I should mention this I think as he was calling or out on it He was thinking to himself Hey, I'll take oh Why don't I just call at the truck? Yes, you're right which is kind of where he ended up By saying I'll be proud. Oh, interesting! Ten days away... The shutdown is not worth anything and that you should not have a Trump shut down. You have them at the door. We have to do something about it. Democrats came to the White House hoping to brand any shutdown with the president's name. The toughest issue? Future funding of Mr. Trump's proposed wall on the southern border.

08:09 The president wants $5 billion for construction of the wall, passed now while Republicans still have control of the House. While the Democrats are only offering 1.3 billion to fund broader border security measures. You have border security without the wall? There's a commonality on border security... We need the wall! The wall is part of border security. Are you understanding what it means to have border security? Yes. We need border security. The wall is apart of border security. You can't have very good border security without the wall now The political fencing intensified and the experts say you can do border security without a wall Which is wasteful and doesn't solve the problem. It totally solves the problem Democrats arrived fresh off of 40 seat midterm gain in the house We've gained in the Senate, excuse me Did we win the Senate? When the president brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana He's in real trouble

09:04 You know as now having extended family in the great state of Indiana being a half Hoosier I'm incredibly insulted by this. Yeah, it was insulting Schumer's comment although I asked Tina and she's like I don't give a crap That's okay. I think she mentioned our name that's a plus She identifies more with Chicago But it may just seems like a dumb thing to them politically doesn't matter But other states who are kind of flyover, I think that might have been a minus point for Schumer. When I... Let me say this. We did win North Dakota. In a unique White House, the legislative clash was in a class by itself. And we're entering into this kind of discussion in the public view. But it's not fair Nancy! It's called transparency. No, no, it's not transparency when you are not stipulating to a set of facts

10:06 At one point, the president tried to speak for the likely speaker of the house to be. You know Nancy is in a situation where it's not easy for her to talk right now and I understand that Please don't characterize The strength that i bring to this meeting as the leader of the house democrats who just won a big victory elections have consequences Mr President Let me just say And thats why the country is doing so well The back and forth landed, it appears where both sides wanted it. A televised political standoff. 20 times you have called for I will shut down the government if I don't get my wool. None of us have said- You want to know something? Okay you wanna put that in my- You've said it! I'll take it okay good you know what I'll say yes If we don't get what we want I will shut down the goverment. And I am proud and I'm telling you why. We disagree. I am proud to shutdown the government for border security Chuck. I'm not gonna blame you for

11:01 Leader Pelosi vying to be the next house speaker told Democrats in a private meeting the encounter here at the White House with The president quote goes to show you You get into a tinkle contest with a skunk. You get Tinkle all over you as for the President's continued push for the wall Pelosi said and again I quote it's like a manhood thing for him as if manhood could ever be associated With him this was really interesting because this wasn't A quote that came from an unnamed source and they're kind of reporting it as if it really happened. Yeah, do they even say a source of one of them? We just go back. No, I'm going to be the next house or straight up I'm gonna speaker told Democrats in a private meeting the encounter here at the White House with the president quote yeah Cuz I saw the reporting on it was just because I like oh is there a clip of this and this is what I need To clip no There's no clip of it It was just something that someone said she said those two show you You get into a tinkle contest with a skunk you get a single all right

12:03 Oh, I'm not saying she didn't. It's just the reporting that bothers me That's all just a little disclaimer would have been worthwhile Over you as for the president's continued push for the wall Pelosi said and again I quote it's like a manhood thing for him As if manhood could ever be associated with him For his part The president said border security and wall funding is common sense and a political winner even if wrapped around a government shutdown Jeff Okay, just remarkable major carrots right in the middle of all of it today. Oh my goodness just remark about I Got that ISO of death for the end of this show because I think it would reflect on the show oh That's a good one. Let me listen just remarkable yeah, I also have one that'll get you later That's definitely a contender for sure

12:52 Now let's go to the BBC, significantly shorter but you kind of get their slant on it. And of course, we'll bring you more on that breaking news from Strasbourg when we have it. Now to American politics where there was quite a scene at the White House today. Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer went to the Oval Office to talk funding for President Trump's border wall with Mexico. Mr Trump has threatened to shut down the government if he doesn't get the money and here is what happened as the cameras were rolling... Nancy, I do. And we need border security- Nancy! Nancy... We need border security. You have called 20 times to shut down the government and you say, ''I want to shut down the government.'' We don't. When the president brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana, He's in real trouble. Please don't characterize this strength that i bring for this meeting. Elections have consequences Mr President. I am proud to shutdown the government for border security Chuck

13:51 Well, you heard Chuck Schumer say their elections have consequences and if that scene is anything to go by once Democrats control the house in January it will be a bumpy ride. So Mr Trump's hunt for a new chief of staff... So there you go. That was kind of lame! What they did is put a whole bunch of Pelosi and Schumer clips edited those all together and then had him say oh I'm gonna do the shutdown so thanks BBC And of course they should look in their own... Here's a question I have for that meeting with Pelosi and Schumer there. These guys are a couple, they go on with the tinkeling and the guy is not a man and all the rest of it but why doesn't one or two of them? It's so simple say why should we be funding the wall you said Mexico was gonna pay for it somebody should have just said that. I agree

14:51 But you said, what are we going to do? We're going to build a wall. Who's going to pay for it? Mexico! I've heard you say that in your meetings and meetups. Why don't... why is Mexico not paying for it? Why aren't we paying any nickel? Do they have no... Because that because that's clearly not the issue. What he's talking about what I've heard is five billion dollars which is a rounding error in this stupid crap we do Look at the farm bill. Did you see the farm bill just passed? 860 billion? No. $860 billion dollar farm bill, not a peep! For what?! Just for subsidies?? Yeah, subsidies all kinds of interesting stuff now You can be part of an ongoing farm operation if your second cousin is okay weird stuff in there So you know you get compensated as the commodities compensation it's huge Not a peep anywhere not a peep

15:47 But I have a solution to this because the way, I saw it. I saw two sides wanting border security one wanting wall and one being okay with offense I mean that's kind of where it's at right is now we're down to the Some would say semantics but others would say It's a different structure and The wall is very scary And you know shows that we are afraid of brown people or whatever I've heard all week long And the other one is kind of friendly You know it's just offense So here's a simple solution. Build the fence, electrify the fence. Yeah I was thinking the same thing. That's just that way to go. Electrify it. If you hit that fence your dead. Or you know taser basically a taser fence not one of those... Chops your hands off It's just an idea i mean it is not much worse than that razor wire that I see

16:44 I mean that's pretty nasty. Except now you would have a different issue trying to get through it, anyway the whole thing is stupid i don't think its gonna work, i dont think he'll get it done! I dont think there will be any funding of any wall before the end of the year Well he has the possibility of letting the whole slide until next year and then just using a chunk of the military budget He gave him an extra like 16 billion. I think he's, that's his plan. That's a slush fund take it out of the... He said that whether they do it through you or through the military. Yeah so yeah Army Corps of Engineers? I think is the way to do that then? Yeah probably

17:22 Yeah, under the... It's unbuildable. Okay well I don't- The whole thing is shit. Eh it's a good exercise! I like what happened in British Parliament though as the Brexit deal and the arguments just make everyone nuts over there one member of parliament took it a bit far. ...sending questions BBC OS is the hashtag and here's one coming in from a BBC News Channel viewer saying what happened with the mace in Parliament? Well I can help you out with that one MP Lloyd Russell Moyle has been ordered out of the House of Commons for the rest of the day after he removed the mace. You can see him holding it there in protest at the government's decision to delay the vote. Now, the mace is a ceremonial club which represents royal authority if it's removed the commons cannot debate or pass laws

18:07 After Mr Russell Moyle took the mace, he walked towards the main doors in the Commons Chamber. He was stopped by Commons officials who took the mace off him and returned it as you can see to its place in front of the Speaker's chair but he was politely asked to vacate for the rest of the day The mace, the sacred Illuminati stick. Whatever that thing is! The actual audio was much funnier of the Speaker of Parliament he's like oh no what's going on here? Order, put it back. No no! No no! Order! I'm grateful to the...

19:06 I just think the whole thing is funny. We should have more of that here That's why I liked what Trump and Pelosi, you know that that mace had to be there has yeah Oh Yeah It has power that so of course the you know church and state and everything in the quids all separate But the way it works is, you know, the royal family, the Queen is represented by the mace. And so that is her seal of approval that you can discuss You can't even discuss without the mace present. But when they said but when the queen is in Parliament then the mace is removed So there can be no governing so she can't interfere with anything something like that

19:46 It's interesting these old these old traditions. Just a damn stick I thought it'd be a lot heavier to guy picked it up like was just the boss of wood Maybe it's a made of balsa wood. That's a replica Oh Man all right, but I got one more popular item than we can drill into stuff. I'm actually little surprised did you oh? I mean, you know that I'm a big sports fan and obviously Steph Curry my brother from another mother went out on a limb and said he did not believe that we'd landed on the moon. Yeah Which makes two Curries out of thousands? I think maybe all the curries Pretty much all the currys are now saying this And then I think NASA said oh you don't believe that come over here We'll show you our moon rocks

20:39 And but I got the biggest kick out of how far this was taken by my buddies over there at the PTI podcast, which I listen to all the time. You ever listened to PTI? The guys that PTI do you listened to PTI? I like PTI have always liked it stands for pardon the interruption is something you probably don't know. Yes, they do. I can see it right here on the album art. Okay, I click this myself or have you know This is the... Have you ever, have you ever? Okay. I'm not going to go into this just go ahead and play your little game ridiculing the sports fans out there who are more serious about things than you are up here. I'm guessing Yesterday we mentioned that Steph Curry did not believe that men had ever landed on the moon i said i thought this had By the way if this is the club you want to hang out with with the rest of the sports fans I don't need to belong To be a light-hearted homage to Kyrie Irving saying the earth was flat but it appears curry actually believes this

21:39 He said so on the Winging It podcast, hosted by fellow NBAers Vince Carter and Kent Basemore. Will Bonnett's questioning the moon landing a bad look for Steph Curry? It's a bad look for everybody and it's not just Steph Curry I'm going to say this let me start by saying if this is a joke if they're just trolling people because I believe Kyrie's doing that I feel certain that he's doing that And I think Steph's doing that but let me just say there are three people who have taken up this cause in the last 48 hours Mark Spears of this network and this company, Steph Curry and Jalen Rose. These three people are my friends I know them well! Well!! I'm with them we're discussions all the time i know their intellect don't do this don't come out and say we saw these pictures that kind of granted black-and-white happened before I was born because does that mean you don't believe in slavery?

22:20 Is that mean you don't believe in the revolutionary war? Did it not happen because it didn't happen on your watch. Don't do this! You guys are too smart, don't do...you're supposed to be woke Are you saying Jalen Rose? Jalen I listened to Jalen today! These are my guys If you are as woke as you say, if you are technologically savvy as you appear to be don't do this. Because I'm saying I don't believe in history. To hell with history because it didn't happen while i was looking at my cell phone watch. It's a very small step becoming a holocaust denier or a safety denier. So I am going look into the camera and say this and I will say there is both two steps. He goes on and on racist

22:59 Don't believe in slavery, Holocaust denier. This is fantastic! What's wrong with these sports people? That's pretty standard sports talk Here's the ISO I pulled... DON'T DO THIS Thought that was kind of nice too It's negative though Oh i'm sorry Mine's positive Oh okay Right we'll end the show on a high note Yeah as we always do You got it you got it all right I think the, let's see. Do you want to start somewhere specifically? Well let's go to climate change if you want to Okay we'll take it right into the young kids with The Green New Deal Hit me whatcha got Well lets start off first of all there is this rage in the climate circles Who Is the Climate Girl A little 15 year old who got involved with climate change when she was 9 because she is so knowledgeable about it

24:00 And so they of course all these Amy Goodman everybody's picked up on this woman girl I'm not familiar with this. Is this a meme that I've missed? It this is well if you were the climate if you were, if you knew anything about climate change and you are a big believer. I would know all about her. Let's go with the intro that Greta, the Climate Change Girl. With a climate activist who says politicians here are not doing enough to turn back the clock and prevent catastrophic climate change. 15-year old Greta Thunberg, she has made international headlines since launching a school strike against climate change in her home country of Sweden in September. She sat on the steps of the parliament in Stockholm every school day for three weeks leading up

24:50 to the Swedish elections, to demand that politicians take more radical action to stop global warming. After the election she went back to school four days a week but every Friday Greta continues to sit outside the parliament building in protest her actions have inspired thousands of students across the globe to do the same Greta Thunberg has Asperger's syndrome. She has focused with laser intensity on climate change since she was nine years old. She brought her message directly to world leaders here in Katowice at the UN Climate Summit last week This is Greta addressing UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres I think this is a mistake though, I think they're making a mistake with her

25:34 They need to get the people who are just about a voting age. They're the ones that are most effective, this is tugging on heartstrings I don't think does it anymore. I'm not going to argue this uh i think this whole thing is a joke but I'm only gonna play a piece of her little speech but she goes on and on and on and on and of course they're very... The thing about somebody that's 15 and is erudite which she seems to be uh is that you have to let her talk so they let her talk for Days It does seem to be a problem. Yes, I agree. I have similar issues Here you go instead I will ask the people around the world to realize that our political leaders have failed us Because we are facing an existential threat hold on a second she's 15 Yeah, no no she's and she's a midget She's a little person this is impossible This is not a fifteen-year old And there's no time to continue down this road of madness

26:32 Rich countries like Sweden need to start reducing emissions by at least 15% every year, to stay below a 2° warming target. You would think the media and everyone of our leaders will be talking about nothing else but they never even mention it nor does hardly anyone ever mentioned that we are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction with up to 200 species going extinct every single day. Oh jeez! Child abuse? Child abuse that's involved, but she's got every single me every metric every every little thing. She's got in there of course yeah Okay Then I will play you now You're so right about these kids that they go on and on and on and on And I've been tracking the Sunrise Movement now this is the group that protested again at Nancy Pelosi's office

27:28 Yeah, on the hill. We had there are photos from that protest in the last newsletter That was actually the next day that was a protest and or in California They were in Washington DC The day before and they line the halls And they were getting arrested and then they did the same thing with their office and in San Francisco yeah And why is Pelosi, why is she the target? She's like on their side. No she's not! You see the thing is she created the first select committee for The Green New Deal in 2007 in anticipation of Van Jones and Barack Obama who then couldn't get it off the ground mainly because Van Jones got kicked out as a 9-11 truther which he won't admit to anymore

28:08 And so that kind of fell by the wayside, but it also did not have any power to draft legislation. That's why they're saying this is different and of course I'm seeing the signs! I'm seeing professional signs... Oh yeah, they're nice! They can't come- They're very nice! They get the right idea. And their logo is very good. Yeah. That upside down kind of... Yeah, It's..I don't know. It feels like mind control when you look at like I'm going into the logo now So I looked into who this Sunrise Movement is and they are a, they do have a 990. They are non-profit with very little money. I'm talking you know like $70,000 that just but this just filed of this is brand new as I did some digging particularly their address 50 F Street Northwest Suite 700 in Washington DC

29:02 Hey, you wouldn't be surprised to find out that there's a number of climate-based organizations at that address and the one In particular of interest is the US Climate Action Network and the way I read it, although the paperwork is maybe not officially filed properly. The climate action network now they have a lot of money they do about 12 million dollars a year and it's been increasing with several million each year over the past five It appears that the Sunrise Movement Education Fund has taken over the U.S. climate action network whose initial funding came from you guessed it

29:42 George Soros. The Open Society Institute, yes of course! Of course that's where the money comes from. Two co-founders we heard from Varshini Prakash on the last time we played some clips when she was on The Young Turks. The kid who interests me the most a very reminiscent of David Hogg from the Parkland shooting at the school, is another co-founder of The Sunrise Movement and that's Jeremy Ornstein. And I think he was just about 18 or 19 when they were protesting Pelosi. I can't play the whole clip because it's six minutes and the audio isn't all that great

30:21 But he goes into a story that he tells off the cuff, just... I mean just ad hoc. Rolls it out fantastically done The kid is a real pro The only problem is his story is bullshit and you can tell it right from the beginning so play that part Oh by the way of course they had to release this on YouTube with all kinds of inspirational music I'm going to start telling a story about my grandparents. They were born in Hungary and when the Nazis rose to power, they lost almost everyone friends and family killed in the Holocaust but they survived the war

31:05 and moved to Cincinnati, Ohio to start a new life. I remember one day when i was maybe 8 and my brother was 10 we were in my grandparents apartment and I remember my brother Nicholas secretly taking a copy of my grandmother's holocaust memoirs and going into the bathroom to read it And I remember my parents finding him bringing him out gently scolding him To both of us, you're too young to read this. You're gonna have to wait a few years." And I remember thinking my brother shouldn't have broken those rules and also remember asking myself when will i be old enough to read those stories?

31:46 I mean, I could just go on and on with this kid. I mean he's really, and he wraps it up. He does see...I'll just go to a piece of the law further because he really gets snaps and everything from the kids in the hallway no applause just snaps of course. How serious we were about fixing these problems! Because we have endured bullets and storms and fires because we've had to grow up one too many times Speaker Pelosi Democratic leadership We are asking you to grow up

32:39 So I'm not so sure that his mom from where was she from Hungary, Hungary. I'm not so sure She wrote her notes in English that his brother could find when he was eight years old Maybe she wrote it in English doubtful Now that story sounds like a crock, which it probably is. It could be that her mother wrote a book and that's also possible. I thought it was grandmother. Yeah, grandmother yeah could be that she wrote a book...I don't know but this kid is good Ornstein is his name oh look at this Anna Ornstein professor emerita of child psychology okay and she writes about the Holocaust maybe that's her

33:28 Maybe it's the book they're talking about. Yeah, well maybe she'd psychologized her grandson But man this kid watch out for this kid if they get a hold of him He'll be every bit what hinged in style I'm not Just like David Hogg he'll go he'll go and Burnout was last time you heard his name that's what I'm saying. He'll go he'll go who go he burn out just pointing it out Trudeau in the big image this back off here still in I'm still in In the Green New Deal, okay? But before you leave this kid. I don't understand how they're associating the Holocaust with

34:09 with climate change. Don't you think that's something of a bit or no? No, John! No because if you listen to the whole thing and I played a little bit of it there these kids are growing up believing that the world is on fire its on flood its an earthquake it's on everything they're all gonna die their schools are being shot up also climate change they're traumatized they're traumatized yes he believed equates this to the Holocaust where kids Kids were also traumatized these kids not us no I know but this is what you get when the child abuse is complete these kids are very serious. I don't know if they'll be taken seriously by the Democrats who they seem to be wanting to partner with But yeah, this is this they really believe that it's sad. I find this incredibly sad now hey now Trudeau he was interviewed CBC and

35:11 He was interviewed about the carbon tax, which is just like in France although the riots haven't started yet. It's quite an issue with the provinces they want to have none of it You've got four provinces who have not complied with the carbon tax now you're imposing it on them Is it harder to sell the carbon tax when you have premiers saying that it is the wrong thing to do? I think...I think the fact that there are a bunch of conservatives out there who have decided that pollution should be free is not that difficult to counter. You gotta love the pollution meme, don't you? It's now just pollution. The price on pollution because we want less pollution and the fact that conservatives in this country don't want to move forward on either fighting climate change or helping people ensure that we can get good jobs in the future

36:00 is a conversation I'm willing to have any time. What we're doing with the Climate Action Incentive, is making sure that families that will have extra costs because of putting a price on pollution will be more than equivalently compensated for it. And what is your hope in terms of how those people change their behavior? Do you have a sense of how quickly that would happen? Well, I think we know that when you put a price on something you don't want... A tax. Like pollution. A tax. Well, we're putting a price on pollution right? Could he say price on pollution one more time just so we know it's pollution? Tax but okay! We're making sure- well actually the money is going straight back to the jurisdiction this isn't going into federal coffers this isn't something were gonna spend on something else were actually giving that money back two citizens in the province which was raised because we know

36:51 If you make pollution free people are gonna give out more of it We say no if you want to pollute there should be a cost associated I'm just blown away by the fact that this interviewer lets him get away with the word pollution. It's co2 its carbon dioxide in the atmosphere Which has now just been boiled down to pollution So if we got rid of all carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, that would be a plus because we'd have no more pollution. Yeah and no more trees and eventually no more people. No more trees, we'd all die there wouldn't be any oxygen because you need the trees to be fed but they're trying to kill us! But this is why people—and certainly young people are

37:32 Very nervous and don't feel so good about the climate change. Now of course she does ask the question about France compared to what's happening there, compared to Canada. What could go wrong? Could anything gone wrong? What do you think about your buddy Macron? We saw political I think he is a political ally of yours Emmanuel Macron faced this very question over the past couple weeks He put a surtax on fuel riots in the street and he had to back down. What lesson did you learn from watching that? Well, he didn't ensure that the second part of it... You put a price on pollution because we want less pollution but you also make sure that ordinary Canadians are going to be able to afford

38:15 this transition towards a lower carbon economy. So it's the rebate that makes the difference? The rebate, the support for families and making sure that we are supporting families through this transition time is a fundamental responsibility for every government And yet, the United Nations says most of the large emitting countries including Canada are not on track to meet Paris targets they're calling for more urgency So, how do you respond in the face of that? Do you speed up what you're doing? Do you change what you're doing? Actually a lot of countries around the world are looking with a lot of interest at how Canada is moving forward on putting a price on pollution and supporting ordinary citizens through this transition. It is a model that's going to set us on a path to reach our Paris targets We are going to be able... The UN says no. They say it's not gonna happen. We are gonna be able to reach those commitments How?

39:06 By having a price on pollution, people will look for ways to innovate to pollute less that will effectively reduce our climate change emissions and improve outcomes. So you will reach the Paris? We're going to reach our targets. What could possibly go wrong? Wow! We need more donations from the Canadians Yes Let me see... Just following up on that yellow jackets before the shooting in Strasbourg, which is still a part of France. There were all kinds of reports about the police using incapacitating liquid on the protesters as a secret weapon they say. Where was this? Well this is published in Marianne in French publication. Yellow Vest Saturday in Paris police had a secret weapon

40:15 And they only used it as last resort a supply of incapacitating liquid. Like you put in one of those water cannons? I don't know! How would you do it, how would you get...I mean this like mace is an incapacitating liquid So maybe that's what they're talking about but here following the publication of article The National Gendarmerie wished to specify the device which we report existence too is a liq..oh its a powder Ahhhh It's a powder Hmm we got to find out someone one of our are I was probably one of those like like a tear gas Probably yeah, it's your guest-like product not fun

40:52 Most likely. My last global warming thing is the Arctic Warming Report, which is on Democracy Now! Scientists have issued a new warning on arctic warming A report released this week finds the arctic has been warmer over the last five years than at any time since 1900 The year record-keeping began The region is warming at twice the rate of the rest of the planet So you'd think that If you're going to be making all these prognostications about the next few hundred years, that you would go back further than 1900. You think there might be something there that she wasn't mentioning? Is that what you're saying? Yeah! I'm thinking of it...

41:42 At one point Greenland was green. Yeah, that's why it's called Greenland but well this is... Well that's not the way they should play in school. They've had uh But the problem is of course underneath all that snow there's evidence that was like a wooded you know area Very problematic The way they played at school when I was a kid was Leaf Ericsson escaping You know as less of the Vikings trying to get out of Norway over that whole North Nordic area, because he was... the hammer was brought down on these guys because they were bad actors. And they were chasing them down so they went to... They told everybody... They're the ones who named it Greenland and then Iceland was named because it was actually kind of green and it would have been a sucker

42:33 Really? Is that the way it's taught, huh?! That was the kind of bullcrap I was taught. It was to sucker the dummies from the Nordic countries into chasing Lee Ferguson because he is obviously not going to go to Iceland because it's ice! It was a distraction! He was obviously going to Greenland! It was misdirection! Early example of misdirection – that's great! Those Vikings man... So I'm thinking, well maybe. I didn't know that pretty good. Yeah it's very funny or did for some reason that stuck with me along with the one and it was when you're a little kid if any little kid will do this when they first look at the globe they will look at South America and Africa and you look at it and go hey those two pieces fit together! Oh yes oh you can't say that

43:26 Before the International Geophysical Year where they determined there's a thing called plate tectonics which were moving these areas apart, it was always no! It's just a coincidence. Don't even say something like that. It was a coincidence that they looked like they were hooked together So this is all bull crap for Fed. We're supposed to now believe the global warming aspect? That reminds me, when I entered the Dutch schooling system... ...I was going to the International School of Amsterdam for three years after we moved there. Moved there when i was seven and just to give you the full context of the story... ...we had a week off from the ISA, International School of Amsterdam and my parents sat me and my sisters down Sunday evening... ..."Guess what you guys are gonna do tomorrow?" Like wow! What are we gonna do? You're going to Dutch school

44:14 Like, what? And I actually really spoke just a few words of Dutch. So entered Dutch school fifth grade and within like two or three months into the school year the teacher He says, oh here's a question that our Americans... Now this is the time when Americans were not very loved in Europe. Texas Instruments was coming over and I walk on the street they know who i was and the kids be like you crazy American shit go fuck yourself! I mean that's what I would get as a fifth grader And then the teacher says alright here's one how many states does United States of America have? My hand goes up of course it said 50 states. No haha its 52 you forgot Alaska and Hawaii

44:58 I said, no it was 48 and then we... What? No! You don't even know this?! And he just was berating me. And so I was, you know...I was already messed up. But then I remember recalling the American Embassy and recording it on one of those little cassette recorders taking it into school and even that we said well she was referencing an old encyclopedia Britannica. I could not get them to just admit that he was wrong! Yeah there's elements of this in the educational system and is really pathetic

45:39 I watched the entire Sundar Pichai testimonial. You watched the whole thing? Because i only picked up a few, I have one clip, I watched some of it...I have what I thought was a good clip but you probably haven't. No let's play! I got a couple clips uh very short ones. I just thought this was good because it played right into the 100 000 apparently not even that much 50 000 dollars that was spent by the Russians on Facebook to swing in the election Here's the amount that apparently Google picked up. This is Nadler, who is the number one Trump hater who has already discussed putting Trump in jail

46:19 Although if anybody read my essay in the last newsletter kiss-the-death essay Will know that no one actually wants to put him in jail. That would ruin the whole idea of threatening things Yeah, but listen to Nadler grilling this guy and by the way A lot of people are critic condemning Nadler's being in the pocket of Google because he gets so much money from alphabet now according to media reports Google found evidence that Russian agents spent thousands of dollars To purchase ads on its advertising platforms that spanned multiple Google products as part of the agents, the Russian agents campaign to interfere in the election two years ago. Additionally Juniper Downes head of global policy for YouTube testified in July that YouTube had identified and shut down multiple channels containing thousands of videos associated with the Russian misinformation campaign

47:09 Does Google now know the full extent to which its online platforms were exploited by Russian actors in the election two years ago? We have, you know we undertook a very thorough investigation and in 2016 we now know that there were 2 main ad accounts linked to Russia which advertised on Google for about $4700 in advertising. We also found other limited... Total of $4,700? That's right. Which was you know no amount is okay here but you know we found limited activity improper activity. We have learned a lot from that and we've dramatically increased the protections we have around our election offerings

47:57 leading up to the current elections, we again found limited activity both from the Internet Research Agency in Russia as well as accounts linked to Iran. And what specific steps have you taken including during the recent 2018 elections to protect against further interference by Russia or other hostile foreign powers? We've undertaken a significant review of how ads are bought You know, we look for the origin of these accounts We share and collaborate with law enforcement, other technology companies. And we essentially are investing a lot of effort and oversight in this area. Looking ahead to the next Congress I assume we can have your assurances that Google will work with this committee as we examine the issue of how to better secure our elections from future foreign interference?

48:48 Congressman, protecting our elections is foundational to our democracy and you have my full commitment that we'll do that. Yeah blah blah let me tell you... 4700 bucks! Big deal! But I watched this whole thing and it is so embarrassing Even the people who had a bit of a clue really display their ignorance and just how idiotically stupid they are, if not because they really don't understand how the series of tubes works. Because they don't have the wherewithal to ask someone to make sure they don't look like blithering morons, which they do. You can't take it seriously I mean there's stuff in their life well if i'm here and i move over there does google know you know like would you? Unless you leave it so wide open for Pichardo go well I don't know depends on your phone depends on what apps you have installed I mean that was just

49:46 Not as nothing really substantial. There's one small thing that came out that may be important, but it started off with Pontificating is Lofgren You know well let's talk about search and how search works I think it's important to talk about How search works? Right now if you google the word idiot under images A picture of Donald Trump comes up. Biased! I just did that. Biased, I tell you! How would that happen? How does search work so that that would occur? We provide search today for any time you type in a keyword

50:29 We, as Google we have crawled. We've gone out and crawled and stored billions copies of billions of web pages He says store but it almost sounds like stolled And I just want to believe that's what he is thinking in his mind. I stole all that! In our index and we take the keyword and match it against web pages and rank them based on over 200 signals. Things like relevance, freshness popularity how other people are using it and based on that at any given time we try to rank and find the best results for that query. And then we evaluate them at external raters, to make sure that they evaluated it through objective guidelines and that's how we make sure the process is working. So it's not some little man sitting behind a curtain figuring out what

51:21 we're going to show the user it's basically a compilation of what users are generating and trying to sort through that information. I think she is on the payroll too, don't worry it's not some little man who conveniently omits the idea that search results are also tailored to you as an individual and moreover your location. Someone was talking about that and I did the experiment yesterday we do a search query then you actually do it with two different browsers just to make it kind of fair and then flip on the VPN, do the exact same search query from like California and you get very different results try gun control as an example it's very different

52:09 My favorite thing is whatever VPN area you're coming from, there's apparently a woman in Vancouver who wants to meet me and she's also in Berkeley! No way the same woman? Is she hot?! Yeah. I can't believe this what are the chances? Onward Number two. This I think is something where Google can get caught up and this is Goodlatte, what's his name? Goodlatte? You spell it good latte. He's a good latte. So Goodlate, who I think he the chairman, he has to ask the question about the advertising rates for politicians and what you have to know is that...I think its law correct me if I'm wrong when you buy television media

53:03 for a political campaign, the seller I believe is obligated to give you the cheapest rate and the same cheap rate that everybody else gets. Are you familiar with this? I'm not familiar with it being law but it would make sense Could two competing political candidates targeting the same audience see different ad rates And if yes, could that disparity be substantial? There wouldn't be a difference based on any political reasons unless there are keywords which are of particular interest and the market determines it. So it's essentially a supply-demand equilibrium It can lead to difference in rates but it will vary from time to time Can those rates be very substantial in difference

53:47 There could be occasions where, yes there could be difference in rates. I haven't looked at the specifics of it yet but it's decided by the system and its a process we have done for over 20 years and let me assure you anything to do with our civic process We make sure that we do so in a non-partisan way and it is really important for us. Yeah I think he is going to run into some headwinds there Because they're all gonna say, well wait a minute how do you determine the price for this campaign or my campaign? And these people are so clueless in Congress. Of course it's very difficult to get that ad rate the same as television because there is apples and oranges but I think they're going to make an issue about that now China The question about China was of course asked by our own Sheila Jackson Lee! As you know she is

54:37 representative for Houston has a great relationship with China is always talking up China and oh yeah we've the port then we love China goes to China it goes uh goes on special little little trips to make sure our bond of friendship and cooperation with China is strong. She loves China, so she's the one to ask about China. I'm concerned that you are now going back into China and upholding the dragonfly procedures which would help censor Chinese persons seeking a lifeline of democracy and freedom. Congressman at the outset said right now we have no plans to... I liked how he said congressman to everybody including the Congress women

55:23 I don't know if that was on purpose, but he kept doing it. across the world to try hard to provide that information. I'm committed to being fully transparent, including with policy makers and to the extent we ever develop plans to do that." No sounds like she asked the right question he gave the right answer nothing going on in China. Information is a human right? Yes of course it's human rights John which is how they get some information right now what would you like I can give it to you start working I make a list okay your human right to do so

56:14 They did have one gotcha. My human right is not to want access to information my human right according to him is Is the access? Oh Huge difference I think they have a they got him on this This was uh, this was the only real bias question which is what this was really about This was all about bias no one understood an algorithm No one and three-and-a-half hours of just pure drivel Yeah, it was bad. Jim Jordan he had the I guess kind of smoking gun to show that Google through their own wording which Pichard just denied and denied and denied Had specifically done some work to help out a political party during the midterm elections Here's the clip Mr. Pichai in your opening statement you said I lead this company without political bias and worked to ensure

57:09 that our products operate that way. Ileana Murillo is Google's head of multicultural marketing, does Miss Murillo do good work? I'm not directly familiar with her work but she is an employee of Google and we are proud of our employees Well you praised her work the day after the 2016 election in a four page email she wrote about her work with the Latino vote She said even Sundar gave our effort a shout out Is she referring to you there She was referring to my communication around translation for a different related effort. Okay, well I'm going to look at two other sentences she had in that long email again recapping her work in the 2016 election with the Latino vote she said this we pushed to get out the Latino vote

57:54 with our features. A few lines down in her email, she qualified that sentence and she said we pushed to get out the Latino vote with our features in key states and she specifically cites the states Florida and Nevada near the end of her email in a similar sentence She says We supported partners like Voto Latino to pay for rides to the polls In key States with me? I want to kind of analyze those two sentences. We pushed to get out the Latino vote with our features in key states, we supported partners like Voto Latino to pay for rides to the polls in key states is it fair to say that we in both sentences Mr. Pichai refers to Google

58:35 Congressman, we are very concerned whenever there are allegations like that. Our team looked at – I'm not asking you that question. Is it fair to say the we in both sentences refers to the company Google? As Google, we wouldn't participate in any partisan efforts around any civic process so… Okay So this is... We pushed And we supported partners like Voto Latino to pay for rides and polls in key states, and we pushed to get out the Latino vote during the 2016 election. And how were they getting that done? They were getting that done by, according to Ms. Morello your head of multicultural marketing By altering your features or configuring your features in such a way and for paying for rides For people to get to the polls Not that any of that is illegal mind you But it was odd that Pichar just kept denying went on for minutes No no I'm not know we would never do anything biased like that We would but have the email saying you did it

59:34 It's like, just admit it! What difference does it make? It is not illegal. No its not but it is biased which is what they're trying to avoid. Which is why... and you know..it just went nowhere. It really went nowhere I have one last clip that kind of moves into an interesting story this is about the content flagging We discussed this. I raised the case of the Alliance Defending Freedom's content being removed after being reported by a trusted flagger on YouTube, the flagging organization was The Southern Poverty Law Center which has kind of an infamous reputation for being...I would say radical left organization that opposes conservative viewpoints What criteria does Google use when granting trusted flagger status to third parties such as the SPLC? Today we

1:00:25 I first want to clarify one thing. Our trusted flaggers don't remove content, they can flag content for us to review and we review flag content It's mostly used by law enforcement many non-profit agencies in areas important areas like child safety terrorism and so on Southern Poverty Law Center is a trusted flagger. People can register Last we checked they've never flagged a single video on our platform We have reached out to a wide variety of organizations including conservative organizations, so we would be happy to take your suggestions to add You know organizations as trusted flaggers appreciate that when the little objectivity in the reviewers and I'll yield back jealous

1:01:06 Yeah, geez that went nowhere. Yeah But he actually is like believing that where and this is the story I wanted to get to big article in The Guardian about Snopes Snopes is very disappointed and angry Journalists working as fact-checkers for Facebook In this case have pushed to end a controversial media partnership with a social network saying the company has ignored their concerns And failed to use their expertise to combat misinformation And this is Brooke Binkowski. Managing former managing editor of Snopes fact-checking site that has partnered with Facebook for two years She says they're not taking anything seriously. They are more interested in making themselves look good and passing the buck, but they clearly don't care Talking about Facebook Facebook in this case But it's the same if the same fact check network the International Fact Check Network that includes That works for Google and include Snopes and on the other side Daily Caller Foundation

1:02:05 And here's in black and white, they don't care. They really don't give a crap about what you're doing with your life. Of course they don't! Yeah? And all those people should be living here where it's nice and cheap for them. But yeah... Well I think Facebook should just move to Austin No no no no we keep it right where it is but with that I would like To thank you for your courage and say the morning to you John C. LeVoir Agneman who put the C in SPLC Dvorak in the morning to you. Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet near subs In the water and all the dames and knights out there and in the morning to the troll room Oh Trolls got your polls no agenda stream calm is where they always show up You can join them

1:02:51 Every Sunday and Thursday morning when we do the show live, and we are always happy Always happy to have them here and covering our ass or fact-checking it So it may need to be and in the morning to cesium 137 Brought us the artwork for episode 1093. The title of that was right puberty and this was a very nice image This was the the last puzzle piece that fits into the huge puzzle with no agenda stamped across it It was I don't know something about it really really felt good But this was a controversial pic because our original this was not our original pick

1:03:30 Okay, Mike Riley had the piece that we wanted to use I'm going in to look now Which was the piece with OAC or AOC whatever her name is oh with a moonshot Yes moon cuz she's not about the moonshine and this thing and as it's a take off from that Guys named yeah, the Hugo the Hugo movie guy. Yeah the famous French movie maker And so we picked that piece to begin with and then I, before we posted it... We had already picked it. I'd put his name in the credits and everything! Yeah, I said wait a minute, we can't use this piece. We're such pussies. Yeah well no

1:04:15 We can't use the piece and that the reason was it's because what happens if somebody shoots this woman. She had the bullet with the, there's a rocket ship in her eye. It did look like a bullet. It looks like a bullet. And so then all of a sudden we're the bad guys and so we pulled the piece and went with the other pieces which we liked a lot too Adam actually liked Jigsaw puzzle piece more and I'm the one who thought the other piece was better He finally came to my side on this and we picked it And then I had that then I also and the real well The reason why is the puzzle piece you know, you argued correctly is can be used for anything anytime It's a perfect evergreen AOC. We might be able to use it But there was something about the moon and they'd made sense for the episode Yes but once

1:05:12 determined that it was not acceptable because of the bullet. That was the end of it, and won't be in Evergreen either but you can go there look go to the website and check it out That's no agenda art generator comm and we thank cesium-137 all of our artists who are always diligently uploading sometimes just hilarious stuff And it's on view for everyone. It's on display know what gender are generated our common you can also upload your art and That's how a lot of people participate in our value network, and thank you cesium 137 yes now You had a newsletter fail as you said this is brought this year was the disaster for some of these newsletters This one I got a lot of notes from people

1:05:55 saying that, oh you know I never got the thing. I read a couple of these from Alexander who says for your information never made my mailbox and that's a first most of all the previous problematic newsletters did arrive so he didn't get it A number people didn't get it He says, John I haven't received my newsletter earlier today. I've only received this mail on from that in other words the text message you sent right? In the last few weeks and all you've been commenting on the newsletters not getting through i have received all of those but have not receive this one some people finally dug around they find it their promotions box and it was nice there was an essay which you and I always laugh about

1:06:46 So whenever you write down and sit down and write an essay, it usually results in much lower donations. Yes the donations go way down And are you now considering still doing them? Because you kind of said in your follow-up that It appears... I'm not going to do them anymore What's the point if we get everybody hates them Well here is what I wanted to jump on You said it appears that our audience who will be our producers or receive the newsletter actually just want animated gifs They love the animated GIFs. Do you think that this is the way we should go? I mean, is there an animated...I know the answer to this because we always take the low road when we can The low road always works! It's just so sad when people say give us a newsletter with some content and you do it and just duh

1:07:37 Yes, this is what the problem. It's because they people really just want animated gifs That's the bottom line and we're being honest with you This is what you respond to but this apparently were some delivery issues I don't know why there doesn't make any sense But I've been thinking there's been some changes in the algo's that sent stuff to the promotions by somebody suggested That if you don't open the newsletter for about he says he noticed this. Oh, then Google makes a decision for ya Yeah He says that he used to always open the newsletter Open-open-open and then for some reason or he'd skip three of them right and it's just and ever since after that It's been showing up in promotions no matter what he does Which is the thing that bothers me? The most is the comment that everybody makes us No matter what I do it shows a white list

1:08:24 I bitch about it being in the wrong box and all the rest of it. Of course, you know what? I do just discard the promotions box and just eliminate its existence somehow within just to be semi-technical I believe somewhere in Google's system when you say okay, I want a white list this It's probably I mean these things do come out from weird reply twos and MailChimp does certain things that may not be the same every time in the headers I think MailChimp is probably to blame for some of this. I don't know that they're doing enough, i mean i bitched about this a few weeks ago similar situation and i got a note from MailChimp and they've said this bull crap and they're not taking any responsibility. Pretty soon be like hey shut up Dvorak you want to be de-platformed? Yeah i'm not worried about that but it's just the um

1:09:17 It's just that I wonder how much of the system itself, because other people have looked into it and MailChimp comes in with some very weird headers. This is a problem...I don't know how Google can rationalize this but every link in a newsletter like this actually goes through MailChimp so when I link to the PayPal account its actually going through MailChimp as a pass-through And so it goes to MailChimp and then gets forwarded to the PayPal. So MailChip can do a count, I'm going to write a little giblet about some of this stuff. Yeah, I don't think it's MailChimp. Ultimately is Google. I mean, I get all the newsletters all the time. Of course, I wrote my own email server. You don't use Google? Yeah! So it's clearly Google making decisions for you. There should be... if it's a newsletter that somebody subscribed to which is the case with this mailing list

1:10:17 They should all go through they shouldn't end up in promotions or in spam or anything else if Google is doing its job I think they do a very piss-poor job with their email No, they're doing exactly what they want to do. If you don't want to be you know This promotions tab is also very interesting You get into the promotions tab. You can also pay to be at the top of the promotions tab It's an advertiser spot now in Gmail Oh, yeah Why people continue to be on gmail is beyond me anyway, let's thank some people who kindly yeah We did a note out saying hey You know we got it. We had a fail and so everybody you know a lot of people that normally

1:10:58 Wait for that they seem to wait for the second. No hey, man. Where's my gifs? And so then they stay contribute which I find it be you know It's fine I like it because at least it shows that we do our people are still Following the show and they liked a show and so they will contribute So we have a large list of executive producers today good up from one Well, so it worked. Your evil plan worked, Devorai! Good work. Actually he's up for probably two because we have one that came in through mail...through the mail which was of course, Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slip, Georgia Ah yes, he is back How is he doing? Well, he gave us $1,077 dollars So that's..he's doing well Holy moly But GoatScreen This note Is very short Two paragraphs Oh that's not typical Uh oh

1:11:53 Because here it goes. Keeping up with this world is difficult, so even when I'm a day or two behind you two keep me in front and often are from the future thank you! I hope to have some insight when i finally stop traveling but as of now my observation is rose-colored glasses are about to get a punch in the nose. I smell real shit around the corner And not just in John and Adam's poop capitals. Hey, we don't have the poop well actually we were starting here but yes happy Hanukkah to all NJNK Wow so I'm thinking he's probably Thinking there's crap going down the Middle East or somewhere

1:12:44 But he did say he would tell us. He's never sent without a bunch of why you should be donating to the show is none of that in here it's just that, he just thinks something bad is going to happen whether it could be economic they could be Middle East he travels a lot and goes to the Middle East but yeah Well this is very concerning. Now, is there something about the number? The 1077? Is there something we should be reading into that? I would think maybe... There's got to be some code that were not seeing. It's no our show numbers so it's not 1094. This guy is such a puzzle. I think he's one of the only producers we really, really know... executive producers we really know nothing about! No but we have a lot indicators and hints. Yeah well He does travel a lot why he's traveling so much? We don't know that but he seems to be on top of a lot of things NJNK no jingles no karma Well they will respect his wishes But thank you very much Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia We look forward to your next communication

1:13:47 And this is also, yeah well there's other issues I'll leave that out. Anyway onward to Craig Mazzella $334 and 34 cents. I apologize for the long note which then got truncated. Gosh this is horrible let me see if I have a copy of it somewhere oh that's horrible Well start your read. It's so funny, it must have been so long I don't know why they concatenated it or cut off right there but they did You gonna read it? Oh yeah hold on I thought you were looking for the note I am but no luck so far Okay let me hold on one second just was right in the middle of enlarging the page with the zoom feature Its called embiggening?

1:14:40 I apologize for the long note, but it's important. If you don't want to read it then I will simply ask for the most powerful jobs karma you have from me and some easy pregnancy karma from my wife Dame Janie we are expect and then it ends This is horrible And yeah You should have sent that through even though I have nothing on email from him But it sounds like they are expecting a new human resource so will hand out Jobs Karma he wanted a big one big heaping And with your new human resource karma, and please let us know what the rest of you don't say jobs Jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for John Karma pregnancy karma to be specific oh Yes, you know what I remember this note. I think yeah was this in his wife is continuously ill

1:15:31 I don't know if it's the same note. I get a lot of notes, I know a lot of people's lives and i'm not sure if this was the same one so... Is it ZZELA? Yeah, I can't find it. I have no idea where it is maybe that's not how his email is you know yeah that's the other problem you guys got some screwy name for his email. Screwy name damnit! Anyway it's 33334 Sir Roger Boots Mechanicsville, Iowa 333 33 Sir Roger boots here. It's been quite a while using an old link and the link still works apparently Yeah And that's all he's got to say sir Kevlar three thirty three thirty-three from Smyrna Georgia He says ITM I have it

1:16:25 Could I have an Obama you might die to the head and oh my god amazing, please Yeah, we can do it two to the head and The night I know you might die first. Yeah, I got that OMG was amazing Mmm Yes, okay here we go And a karma as well You've got karma Kevlar sent me a note, a separate note right after I sent the second text email out. Bitching. It says hey hey hey! I was just about to send a donation thanks for the reminder. It's quite funny real time. Nicholas Blexrud $333

1:17:25 ITM gents, we're second time donors long-time boners. It's been a while since our last donation can we get a de-douching? Yes by request I think so You've been dedouched John your sad letter tugged at our heartstrings and our purse strings thank you to you and Adam for keeping us from going Dateline on each other and keeping our mess marriage strong. Oh my husband hit me in the mouth during our move from Portland to Austin a few years ago in our life Who's this from? This is from Nicholas Bexford. Well, it's his wife writing the note Anna and Nick yes

1:18:05 Okay, the first time my husband hit me in the mouth during our move from Portland to Austin. Oh she's lives in Austin a few months ago and are Portland to Austin Wow Is that it's like a lateral move man, but it's a different kind of hipster yeah Although on our lives haven't begin mostly meat-eating hipsters in Austin. Oh come on I haven't been the same as Franklin's, haven't been the same since. The first time I listened, I was shocked! Shocked by the oddball jingles but then I grew to love you both recently we hit my mom in the mouth and she thinks you're all the funniest pair hi mom hi mom thanks for all you do John and Adam love Anna and Nick yeah well give them a karma as well thank you crazy kids and we'll see at the meetup which is being planned as we speak

1:18:57 Oh yes, Austin Meetup. You've got karma! It's a big one. Alright now we have another with the Noteless donation Brian Lawson Now he did send an email in 333 let's see what he says sent to sorry I've been overboard lately just paid 333 through PayPal happy holidays that's it okay thank you very much happy holidays Now back to the now back to real news Sir Chris Spears and awesome other Austonian. It's crazy down here It's crazy crazy talk by the way, you know they if you look at the numbers on the mailing list What do you think what state? Do you think has the most no agenda people on it? What state has the most no agenda people in it Yeah In terms of them new mailing lists people that have actually gotten that far

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1:31:12 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I was thinking about de-platforming over the weekend. It actually works. What do you mean it works? Well when's the last time you saw anything on television mind you about Milo Oh Milo definitely got sidelined When is the last time he heard anything on television

1:31:53 about Alex Jones. Just recently? Only because he showed up at the hearing, that's the only thing you heard about him just recently Yes this is right and that's what made me think about it like this de-platforming I mean yeah i know how to listen to Alex Jones if I want too but he's not in my mind At all. I don't think about him anymore, Laura Loomer who chained herself to Twitter's front door in New York City. She's been- Loomerized herself! Yeah but also...I mean what happens is and if you notice by the way these people who get deplatformed the only ones that matter and you should pay attention now i think i'm being protected in hindsight is those with a checkmark

1:32:37 The checkmarks, I believe that there is a tracking mechanism going on. It's very unclear how these verified check marks work. Um...I've tried for years and gave up on it now. I think i'm kind of happy because it seems to be the mark of the beast but really it is! And they're tracking, because anyone who's a journo in the school newspaper gets a verified checkmark. So they are clearly tracking mainly news and those who spread news and or influencers and you're one of them! You are a columnist, journalist, influencer...and I without my check mark, I am... You're nothing! No no i'm a non-playing character

1:33:18 I'm an NPC in the big game of Twitter. Oh, NPC! I am completely unimportant no matter what i do. I'll never go away because I am an NPC. I just meant to spin around. You're saving the day then? Yes it's a game with real consequences this is when you step back It's like, if you're not on Twitter...if you get deplatformed mainly from Twitter You're gone. Your career is over Laura Loomer, you're right she loomered herself She's gone! She is just gone And somehow there's some big game and it interacts with the mainstream media in the United States for sure And if you got a checkmark, you basically have a target on you all the time and you have to be very careful

1:34:04 Well, I'm very careful. Oh, I know you are! But the... even though... You know that's why we took the bullet thing from the art. We removed it and used the other one Damn, we succumbed. We succumbed to the pressure. No certain things you gotta do You just have to play there yet you have to play by a certain set of rules We get around most them because we have no advertisers telling us what to do or nor no corporate guy Hey, you can't do that! We have the self police Yeah, we do but we can self-police in favor of our listeners and producers because And I'm gonna say it, at the end of the day that particular piece of artwork wasn't that important.

1:34:48 No, we make choices. It's actually let's just say an advertising for a moment since you brought that up The something new is happening Everyone's all all aflutter about it because finally we're bringing spying to podcasts I could not be more proud everybody way to go Yes, we're bringing more buying two podcasting We're gonna gonna spy on you like the big boys and This has been a project mainly of NPR. You know, I follow all the podcast industry news and you know the big complaint about advertising in podcasts is there's no way to track it if someone just downloaded it did they listen to it how much did they listen to download we don't know if their message is getting out so first the industry came up with some agreements as to what a download is which I question

1:35:39 But it's okay, at least it's an agreement that is no better or worse than the Nielsen rating. But now they've gone completely stupid and they decided we're going to make this so that we can really track how far in you're listening to this and this falls under the protocol RAD it is now version 3 of RAD which is remote audio data being the data that you are giving remotely and the way it works oh yeah they have a framework which is on on the github and again, this is NPR and I think they've implemented it in their npr one app Well, they're going to be highly disappointed. That's one part of the stupidity of it all

1:36:22 But they also have this idea that here's my framework, please put it into your podcast player so the industry as a whole can track and see because what you really need is two pieces. The production, the mp3 itself in the ID three tags where you put in the title and the artwork... And oh by the way I noticed that my recording software had defaulted back to only the author who who registered the program I use, Hindenburg. So instead of Adam Curry and John C. DeVore, it just said me. I don't know how long it's been doing that but someone alerted me to that.

1:37:03 But then you add a special little tracking URL or multiple tracking URLs so that when your player hits a certain mark, that you also have to put into the podcast. It'll then hit that URL and it will say hey this guy over here listened to this point in this podcast And I will say, and you're going to hear the...and this is why I pulled these clips. This is the guy who's really on the implementation side he's not on the content creation side and he has says a lot of things he shouldn't He is not the guy to communicate this because it sounds like you just being creepy and spying and in fact that what your doing! As John said You gonna be very disappointed when you find out how many people are actually listening? To have the gall

1:37:51 We won't know who you are when this takes place is just a lie of epic proportions life. She addresses it You can feel you'll know what phone you have the a lot of people oh, yeah comes from phones like when you Tells you what browser people are used or they're coming from now It'll give your unique device ID because it's mainly a phone I mean all this stuff is it's just given to through the HTTP request itself and I'm paraphrasing, but believe me this is possible. Here he is Brian Moffat of NPR explains. Okay so the challenge in the podcasting space over the last decade is... Hey man hey John! The challenge in the podcasting space over the last decade it's really bad what's a dog who's listening?

1:38:35 Okay, so the challenge in the podcasting space over the last decade has been all of us have been circling around a better definition Of it download and this is largely because most of the places where people listen are not places that you know We control the distribution. So it's Apple podcasts largest and you've got a bunch of other apps now listen to what he says something interesting about who controls the distribution And he views the podcast app as the person or the entity that controls the distribution And I disagree. Why? Because they don't control whether something is, whether you can get it or not and if he's talking about what they promote sure i'm sure that lots of podcasts take in fact we'll talk about it take money to promote certain podcasts so enhancing distribution yeah but they don't control it

1:39:35 I know Now listen to how he's talking. He's talking about his content, his NPRs content. Not talking about anybody else but them and we know if the bytes were delivered successfully that user and that kind of where we are with the IAB in the common definition known as IBV2 so we can all speak the same language about downloads. That's been great it I think a huge step forward for the industry that we all have that definition, but we know there's downloads that don't get played. All you got to do is look at your own behavior. There's so much good stuff out there that you don't quite get everything. We have good research and says people listen to most of what they download and that's been great. But what we want to get at is a way to understand from all those places where our podcasts are played which files that were downloaded actually got listened too. And I think it's really important to interject here, you know, we're not worried about

1:40:36 Who listened to it? I'm just worried that someone was sure because you know, that's the information we don't have and that's all we're really looking To get it same things. We learned from NPR one You know what kind of engagement are we getting with this content is it worth you know The distribution deals were making with all these different platforms our people listening to what they download Do you hear that the deals we make with all these so NPR is apparently paying podcast apps to highlight their content Yeah I didn't know that, and so there's only a few of them out there. There are not that many being used... By the way as soon as he starts talking about this we don't care who it is i'm thinking oh okay opening the door what else are these click farms out in the Philippines and India

1:41:24 What, you know they've been kind of busted recently. Let's give them something else to do." Oh yeah! And it's just URLs it's not that hard to replicate in fact here is his technical pitch So a quick overview what we're talking about with remote audio data is actually very very simple inside those audio files which are typically mp3s although can be MP4 or other formats all we want to do put a little extra metadata that tells where the important points in the file are where are the quartile markers, now where is like the halfway point for our sponsors? Where was a sponsorship starting and ending so that we can have the podcast playback platforms when listening happens at one of those points just send us back a little ping that says listening happened at that point. That's all we're asking for it

1:42:12 Hardly any data at all. We're not asking for any user information or PII It's simply somebody listened at that point in that file and that's that the basic metric we're looking to get back Yeah, I'm very against this I don't want anyone knowing what I'm listening to and you can tell me a hundred times That is we don't know anything about you. That's bullcrap. I don't want anyone to know what podcasts I listen to him not gonna report that Mark Marco from over already been embarrassed by them by the fact that Twitter is Outed you as a Britney Spears follower Exactly God knows what podcast just so you know she also follows me So that's how that came to be she started following me and like okay Brit. No, I'll follow you back Marco from overcast which i think is

1:43:01 Arguably the second most popular app has said he's not going to implement it and that does not seem to be even... What is the app that NPR bought? They bought Pocket Cast. They say it's not on their road map, so I don't know if this is really gonna go anywhere. I sure hope not! This is not right for podcasting. Why?! Who cares!? If you're not doing anything wrong what difference does it make if they know you're listening to The Britney Spears Podcast It's the Taylor Swift podcast that I listen to, not Britney. Oh well that's different... Alright well i think that's it you don't have no more conclusions to make except that you think is a bad idea Well you kind of started shutting me down so I was done They never call YOU up! Oh why would they? To do these reports

1:43:53 When was the last time you were called by anyone to make some one-line comment? Of course, they take about 30 lines. They steal one of them... One line comment about the whole scene, the whole podcasting scene which happens to be hot right now! I cannot remember. It's been so long ago. I think they can't get a hold of you. No, I did get something although they look probably in your Twitter account say he doesn't got it's not him is the didn't get her check mark? I did get a written interview request which I complied with and i think that was from uh the UAE Arab Emirates have to look it up It was very detailed yeah oh there's something like that no one ever asked me anything why would they

1:44:37 I mean, I've only been through it all once. I've already seen how it won't work It's okay. Well that's the reason they're not now you know now you know why they're not gonna call you Yes exactly throw a wet blanket on it Sorry sorry guys Alright, well we got enough wet blankets to throw on our own stuff. So we'll do that I want to go back doesn't mean anything to us because we ask Our listeners and producers to take part in the show and contribute to keeping it going It's truly suck if it had sponsors, it's the best way to do it is them and people love it Enough secrets given away Bloomberg was on The View. Oh geez

1:45:23 You didn't actually watch it. This is a clip you just got or someone sent it to you? What do you think well, you've been very critical of President Trump and your you've been openly weighing a run against him in 2020 running last time. Do you regret that you didn't run the last time? No, I think we found is you cannot win as an independent because the electoral college requires a majority not a plurality and even if i did get a lot of electoral votes um... you couldn't possibly when it would have gone to the house on my household then pick the uh... republican candidate or at least this is a lie what he's saying. What does his lie

1:46:08 He's claiming that if you run as an independent, the Electoral College won't recognize it. It's going to go to the House and he's going on and on with some nonsense but that's okay. Then pick the Republican candidate or next time pick the Democratic candidate? Yeah. You become a spoiler in a way when it happens. That's exactly what my obit would have been. He was a spoiler This way they can write other things about me when I die. What would make it more appealing to you then for 2020? Well, you'd only run if you could get the Republican or the Democratic nomination Obviously the Republicans probably not gonna be available and I don't agree with almost everything they stand for today And so it have to be the Democratic nomination and If you want to run that's what you'd have to do When I don't know I've looked at it and I've said we'll beginning of the year focus on no chance ever he's so boring

1:47:01 I mean, you can't put that one back. We need excitement! No one will vote for him." He's delusional! Well there is that... And of course if anyone read the essay that was in the last failed newsletter they will realize that their real problem with the Democrats have is Hillary and they're not doing everything they can to avoid talking about her including Maureen Dowd who came out with a very interesting piece in the New York Times where she hates Hillary. And she says, oh Bill and Hillary are going on their tour you have to pay 700 bucks to go listen to them and they're places are dead empty! Oh they're on Groupon! The tickets are on Groupon. Yeah, they're empty, they've failed, failed, failed... Michelle Obama is selling out internationally This is the meme do we know this any of this for a fact?

1:47:53 What, Michelle Obama selling out internationally? Or that Clinton's not selling out at all. Well the Clintons have had empty seats and Michelle Obama has had full seats in fact I got a lot of emails from people because their tickets went on sale today in the Netherlands she is also appearing there And she's got some big venues, yes. Yes becoming Michelle Obama. They're definitely making a point and pushing this meme into the media trying to get Hillary off the track of running again because if she does they've got all kinds of problems It would split the vote a lot I believe that

1:48:36 And as I expressed in the essay, she deserves to win. And I'll give a little summary of what the problem that Democrats have is that by...and that's why they're pivoting away from the Russia collusion thing. They have to pivot away from it because if its Russia collusion and the 2016 election was rigged, that means Hillary was jobbed- Ah yes! She got ripped off and she deserves, yeah? She needs, yeah she needs justice for Hillary. She got screwed she should be given a second chance." I like that. I got a letter from somebody saying yeah well you know Hillary would kick his ass if she ran again. Maybe? Yeah maybe is the right word but doubtful is another word that I think you can use anyway so that's... Something happened

1:49:29 Time magazine came out with their person of the year and I'm not sure did they do four different covers or it's a rotating cover They can never seem to make up their mind. But what they did is they made it about journalists? Kishogi yeah, they put kashogi on and then but also that people who were killed Remember when the there were gunned down at the newspaper office Yeah near was it in Delaware nowhere was it Well doesn't matter but the Maryland I came yeah, but my question is Is was he a journalist or was he a columnist? Or an essayists. I mean you you bill yourself as a columnist for instance on the DHM plug show is there a difference if so what is the difference and Should Khashoggi be treated as a journalist like he is being treated by Time magazine

1:50:27 No, and I'll tell you what. The point is as journalists do journalism they go out and report he's not a reporter but now when it gets down to columnist you get a lot of columnists where you got certain editors and the editors don't like columnists because they don't like anybody who can just be blah blah blah They'd rather have somebody doing reporting so they've actually demand that columnists report I want to see more reporting in this column. What's a column? It's an opinion piece, it's somebody's idea of what's going on in the world that might give somebody else some insight which was a good example in the essay I wrote which is kind of a column, it's an essay really and good columns to me are essays they're not reportage

1:51:13 But, because Shoghi showed no signs of ever being a reporter. I mean, I could do it! I can go out and stick a microphone in somebody's face and ask him a question and record it. It's not that hard journalism is actually not that difficult I like that. Thank you because that would really get you in hot water with your Lib Joe's if you said journalism is not... No, they just don't like to talk about it. Well the question was posed... One of my Lib Joe friends always says hey why are we talking about this? We're not Hemingway! The question of journalist versus columnist was posed to Professor Chris Chambers, professor of media studies at Georgetown University.

1:52:00 And this was on RT. His answer, as you can imagine differed from what you just said Okay professor I have to tell you it's great and do you think this is a good thing for time to actually recognize? I think so I mean it's about time because we're entering a very dark time in terms of getting information out there people relying too much on gossip and innuendo and fake news And seeing that this is a dangerous profession and people need to see that, I think. And I think this was a great choice for them and well...I don't think it was gimmicky. Gimmicky probably would have been Robert Mueller or somebody like that. I think they took the hard way right? For this. They could have gone with Robert Mueller or somebody like that

1:52:44 they went with this and I applaud them finally for doing this. Absolutely, now to put all of them together though i think the question that a lot of us especially if you did...you were journalism student and watched the news like you have two questions is there difference so between being a columnist and a journalist. And is that kind of not necessarily defined amongst these four covers? Well, I haven't read the companion piece yet but my opinion is they're trying to find a common language that everybody can kind of hook into and not make these fine distinctions Now what I tell my students is at the minute somebody puts a bullet in your head

1:53:22 You're probably a journalist. Because if you're a columnist, I mean some of the people at The Gazette were columnists It's presenting information whatever platform or outlet you use be it your opinion and personal essays Or going for hard exposés You are doing something that upsets some very powerful people Rather than having them debate you on that they send a group of assassins after you or They go crazy and walk into your office and blow you away And I think that once you do once you take a bullet, or a knife. I think everybody is Is pretty much a journalist at that point Wow how wrong could you be John? Once you take a bullet that once you take a bullet then all of us in your journal yeah, I thought that to be

1:54:12 Interesting. Now, he really only wrote for the Washington Post for about a year it wasn't all that long and and Sabel Edmonds who typically news bud I don't look at what she's what they're doing over there usually just not enough time in the day but Sabal Edmonds when she comes to Turkey she knows what's going on and she's been filing for the past seven or eight weeks a lot of reports about Khashoggi from Turkey, and she has not done anything final. There's no clips to listen to from her reporting at least but she says that this was definitely some kind of operation but

1:54:52 from the Saudis she believes it was the Muslim Brotherhood and mainly from Qatar because you know with all these changes with the Saudi royal family Khashoggi basically chose the wrong side but in the, he chose the anti-MBS side. But in a week before anything happened to him whatever it was in his Arabic publications, according to Sibel Edmonds. He started... he flipped and he became much more positive and you really want... he really wanted to go back to Saudi Arabia and the thinking from Edmonds is and you know she worked for the FBI, she was a translator. She had very high security clearance and she's been a whistleblower on this stuff for a long time I think she has credibility in this area for sure but she believes that it was the Muslim Brotherhood and particularly Qataris who just jumped out of OPEC let's just add that there there's all kinds of problems between them in Saudi Arabia they didn't want Khashoggi

1:55:51 giving the Saudis any intimate details about their operation and that the fiancee who brought him to the consulate, who we've never heard from again. Where are the interviews with her? Have we seen anything from the fiancee? He'd just gotten married for the second time he had two wives already and this was now his girlfriend in Turkey And what the news bud people allege is that she was a honeypot to get him in and that's where things were taken care of but For some reason she feels it was not Saudi Arabia. It was the Qataris and in particular through Muslim Brotherhood affiliated groups So I'm kind of looking at we already think asserted that Khashoggi may be some form of spy Not just your typical little columnist We've you know, he spoke at the Pentagon He had all kinds of clips and then here's the woman who hired him at The Washington Post This is Karen Atiyah

1:56:47 And she has a very short Wikipedia entry for someone who is the global opinion editor of The Washington Post. Or was that a very easy job to get? What's your what's your opinion of that? It's one of those, it's a weird job it's not that easy to get and then The Washington Post would be probably a difficult job because important at Washington DC based operation. Could be non-trivial Okay, there's a meeting and I have a lot of creds that anybody would want to see in the Wikipedia. Well exactly Here's what she? Here's what she has born August 12 gone Ghana Ghanaian American writer and global opinions editor for The Washington Post born in northeastern Texas to a Nigerian Gahan Ian mother and Gahani and father after a bachelor's degree at Northwestern University Atiyah won a Fulbright scholarship

1:57:43 to study in Accra, Ghana and obtained a Master of Arts from Columbia University before joining the Washington Post. That's a pretty quick timeline! Yeah it was very spooky too... Well this is exactly what I was thinking about. I'm thinking Spot The Spook maybe? Everybody wants to spot... So let's see if we can put it to the test and listen to the words she is using or that are used with her in regards to Khashoggi. It does seem fitting, you know... Oops! This one here. Karen Attia is with me and she's a global opinions editor for The Washington Post And it was Karen who recruited Khashoggi To The Post about a year ago I like recruit word. So Karen always a pleasure to have you on and I just wanted you to react to the president

1:58:33 saying it's the world, this vicious world to blame for Jamal's murder. What do you make of that? It is just such a—you know, for president and an administration that has been so preoccupied with projecting strength, with projecting America first It just is such a sort of weak and cynical statement, and it denotes this sort of helplessness in the face of human rights abuses, of repression. And says nothing of our role in at least in this case, in the case of Jamal's murder- Stop. In the case of the one- Yeah. Couple things to note. One if she's not hyperventilating she's nervous as hell.

1:59:21 So that makes me think she's probably not a spook because I can't imagine her not being able to hold it together in this simple question like this. She has been competent, but when somebody is nervous you always make sure wonder how they get these positions. Any other observations? Not yet, besides the fact that she uses weird language. We'll finish this one up and then the final clip may tell us more. And says nothing of our role in at least in this case, in the case of Jamal's murder and the case of the war in Yemen In the case of what we're seeing to be

2:00:03 you know, global instability and repression coming from Saudi Arabia denying that we have any sort of role to play in stopping this. I don't think that was an answer to the question but okay she recruited Khashoggi just over a year ago on all this love and adoration and oh yeah we have to play this up and thank You Washington Post for making that also very clear And then we get to the flub where the truth always wants to come out. One minute clip of her with Anderson Cooper It does seem fitting and also incredibly sad that his last column, this last column would be about freedom of the press in the Arab world. You hear the difference in her voice now?

2:00:50 A little bit. Yeah, he was very and again he would come into the office we had lunch a couple weeks ago and who's very adamant about wanting to do more in Arabic He wanted to create any sort of no International Herald Tribune for the Arab world The International Herald Tribune for the air for the Arab world isn't that IHT isn't that unknown CIA publication well it It's propaganda. The IHT was always, but I don't know how much propaganda...I've had material in there. Propaganda! It was always a joint venture between the New York Times and the Washington Post which is sketchy if you think about it. Yes And i think it was recently, I think that Washington Post was kicked out of the New York Times took it over

2:01:46 I could be wrong. It's one of the two, all you know it's not what it once was which was this joint venture and if you want to say that is a mouthpiece for the CIA because they message overseas in it cause its really something you buy when your in London or your floating around if your traveler you pick it up cause its good, its got a summary of everything and by saying thats a mouthpiece for the CIA you have to be saying that The New York Times has too Right, but why would this even be the topic of conversation? It just seemed like an odd thing to say I really want to build the International Herald Tribune for the Arab World. Is it relevant anymore? No, no it doesn't matter The flub is still coming Wanting to do more in Arabic He wanted to create a sort of international herald tribune for the Arab world and I think that he

2:02:42 He really wanted to be free. He just saw how journalism was being smashed around the Arab world and so it was something that he's really pushing for, very pushy about. writer at all. But on this note, it was something that he's really passionate about and to the point where you'd say Karen I would do this for free but just let me do this so I'll set up editors or figure it out and we were discussing even setting up some sort of newsletter perhaps that he could helm and take charge of and so It is poetic in his fitting that this would be the last column that I write from edit for him

2:03:26 The truth always wants to come out. It's so fitting this would be the last column I'd write for, uh... I mean- It was fitting that this would be the last column that I'd edit for him And there's this long silence. I appreciate you joining us, thank you The video is great It's in the show notes and a shownotes calm You can see she realizes she made a mistake and she does this big gulp and Anderson just looking at it all starry-eyed Wouldn't surprise me that he was a front for somebody else's writing She was ghostwriting for him. That wouldn't surprise me, it's not unusual you have some brand name person and next thing you know they have a column and somehow they've become pretty good writers how does that work? It's not that easy I mean its easy just to write aimlessly but to piece things together so they're well structured and your'e not all mess is not that easy And turns out with most editors, lot of them will tell ya this too

2:04:23 I feel this way myself. Sometimes it's easier for me just to write, somebody wants to write something and they can't write let me just do it." Oh I'm not arguing but you put all the pieces together he's on-he's a cover of Time Magazine, a columnist who wrote for little over a year probably didn't write his own material as you point out What is, why? Why what symbol why is this being played up in particular by everything connected to the Washington Post. I have no idea but I think that if the first clips that you had are worth considering by the not clips but the discussion of that woman who's an investigative reporter with creds

2:05:11 that this was an operation, because you know MBS did arrest like most of these people and the only time we've heard that oh they're all associated with him. Well we got that from our news sources and it could be bull crap I never heard it from him no and if they're probably going to be executed Now, the question that comes to mind immediately is how does the Muslim Brotherhood get inside the consulate? the way they did and then grab this guy and kill him without the consulate being implicit, which is possible because the Muslim Brotherhood is like a... They're everywhere. Yeah they're everywhere in this like a subversive operation Well we've only heard a story And yeah, we don't know anything Right but Trudeau back to the interview with Trudeau was asked about this and just listen how the story is now fact

2:06:11 I want to move to another thing that happened at the G20 when you took some time To meet with the Saudi prince, the Saudi Crown Prince MBS. Did you realize he had met with a Saudi prince? What an outrage! I can't believe did he shake his hand this is an outrage He raised the issue of Raif Badawi His sister Jamal Khashoggi and the war in Yemen How does a leader respond to another leader coming up to him and saying listen we have some problems here? But how does he respond to that assuming that he did that I think very much depends on the way things are phrased and my frame of

2:06:50 in all cases on the world stage is Canada wants to be helpful in moving us towards a better place as a planet. It's never situation of imagining that we can stand there and tell another country what to do or how to do it. It's saying, look we would be great if you were to do this and we could be helpful in moving forward in a constructive way." How do you say to the Crown Prince? We're pretty sure you were involved in the killing of an innocent journalist. Oh! We said we need better answers on that. We need better accountability. The killing of a journalist is something that is extremely serious to Canadians, to me... And his response to you saying that was you knowing full well what you know about the intelligence behind it?

2:07:35 Wait a minute apparently he's been read into this report that never was published at the CIA denies. That's what she said It's too much response to you saying that with you knowing full well What you know about the intelligence behind it is his responses look we're happy to continue to work and And get more information or proof, and if you have no proof for information You know continue to provide it so that's exactly until your eyes at that point Being a leader on the world stage involves having an ability to engage with all types of people without letting personal feelings overtake one's involuntary movements. Yeah, you know why he's... okay, involuntary movement He is full of crap The reason why he is not doing anything Is because of the arms deal that Candanavia has with Saudi Arabia

2:08:32 Oh, maybe we should put some pressure on President Trudeau. President Prime Minister, what is he? I'm sure that reporter asked him that. Yes! Yes she did actually You said you also made it clear to the Crown Prince that Canada stands up for human rights How can you say that to him knowing we are still selling those light armored vehicles Is there not a contradiction in that? This is a question that comes up no just regards... Now I am trying wrap my head around this question So, Canada stands for human rights. I think what she means is because we stand for human rights we won't allow any business dealings with Saudi Arabia because they killed a journalist but the actual business dealing is about weaponry that helps kill people

2:09:22 So where is the human rights in this? I don't, it's very...I can't put my head around the whole concept. It is funny. It's an ironic and weird question. That's truly-this is the definition of irony right here. Make it clear to the Crown Prince that Canada stands up for human rights How can you say that to him knowing that we are still selling those light armored vehicles? Is there not a contradiction in that up? You know this is a question that comes out not just in regards to Saudi Arabia But it regards to abroad array of country's that have different Different levels of defensive human rights than Canadians having Canadians expect

2:09:58 You know, we try to look for constructive ways to have relationships that lead us to being able to be very frank on human rights while at the same time look for a way where you're not sort of shaking your fist at someone and saying, you've gotta change in an expectation. Yet please everyone yell and scream that the United States does have to act that way! What a douche! That alone will have them shake. He is a douche Is he contract impossible to break? There are reflections ongoing around that. Can we break the contract? Oh, there's reflections going around! Don't lie! So just so I'm clear though... The contract could be broken. It is possible As as i highlighted the contract has particular provisions both for confidentiality and around significant penalties in the billions of dollars and it was a contract that was signed by the previous government

2:10:53 Looking at it. Yeah, in other words we're not gonna be stupid We're not going to call for end-to-arm sales like the idiots in America in the United States That would be stupid now. We're just gonna keep selling it very good and of course We have the question about the tape and we all know that everyone's been read in everyone has heard a copy We all know what's going on But yet, is there really a tape? Have you heard the tape or have you been briefed on what that tape is? I've been briefed on what it is. And what was that like? Obviously its something intelligence communities have taken and listened to and worked with as part of our reflection on getting real answers. Could you characterize it for me? I'm not going to characterize that. Horrific? I'm not going to characterize it. There's NO TAPE!

2:11:44 Well, it could be a tape that is... Why wouldn't they? If I was part of this scheme whatever the scheme is. I'd just get a bunch of actors together and produce a tape! Yeah! The guy's somebody screaming another guy you know then muffled so sounds like you know it's like in some guys pocket the microphone. It's too hard to produce a tape unless its video tape that would be tough Well, where's the videotape? You know what there is. There's nothing there's nothing very beginning They said there was a video it's not even a body if you have a body There's nothing It's just the story but the stories on Time magazine Where the columnist becomes a journalist once you take a bullet to the head even though he didn't take no bullet to the head Just call yourself Journalists that skipped the bullet part and just let's call yourself well anyway

2:12:39 I find this very strange and hopefully Sybill Edmonds will come up with more stuff. But something is very, very wrong with this and it just brought it all back when we got it on the Time Magazine cover. Yeah well let's see what we've got here. Transition clip is what we need. Do you have to listen to this? This is a guy I don't even know who this guy is, I've seen him before he's some conspiracy guy and it was on some very strange Twitter account which is like one of these Q but its not quite a QAnon type thing.

2:13:19 And it's this guy explaining the, he goes I just found it fascinating because there are so many holes in this story and it doesn't really make any sense. And it's almost worth discussing just because it's so crazy. This is the crackpot Bergdahl, this guy talks about Bergdahl and how it's a background on everything that's going on what's really happening some of it might be true some of it doesn't make any sense but play this crackpot clip The real reason behind Bergdahl's release. Bergdahl was released in exchange for five Taliban generals, in order to cover up the Obama-Hillary Stinger missile sales to Libya So here is the real story

2:14:01 Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to secretly retrieve US-made Stinger missiles that the State Department had supplied to Ansar al-Sharia in Libya without congressional oversight or permission. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through Ambassador Stevens and a private arms dealer named Mark Turi. But some of the shoulder-fired Stinger missiles ended up in Afghanistan, where they were used against our own military. On July 25th 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was downed by one of them not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn't arm the missile

2:14:44 The helicopter didn't explode, but it had to land and an ordnance disposal team recovered the missile serial number which led back to a cache of Stinger missiles kept in Qatar by the CIA. Obama and Hillary were in full panic mode, so Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger missiles. This was a do-or-die mission which explains the stand down orders given to multiple rescue teams during the siege at the US Embassy It was not the State Department, not the CIA that supplied the Stinger missiles to our sworn enemies because General Petraeus at CIA would not approve supplying the deadly missiles due to their potential use against commercial aircraft.

2:15:35 So then, Obama threw General Petraeus under the bus when he refused to testify in support of Obama's phony claim that a spontaneous uprising caused by a YouTube video that insulted Muslims. Obama and Hillary committed treason! This is what the investigation is all about—why she had a private server in order to delete the digital evidence You know, this not-so crackpot I've heard this theory and I can't remember the guy's name who does this podcast. It says on YouTube, I think? It sounds very plausible and this is what I've heard from many people... Well okay listen if you say that What's Bergdahl and the five generals from the Taliban have to do with any of it? That part I'm not so sure about

2:16:26 He throws that in at the very beginning. I'm not sure why... When i hear that kind of thing, this is one of those things where you start to throw a chum into water with screwball stuff and if you take this thing apart piece by piece by piece, none of it makes any sense. This guy's completely full of crap! I stick by our old thesis which was kidnapping gone astray Stinger missile story of the two. I'd like to get some evidence for that if there's any evidence that a That one of these choppers was brought down by a dead missile that hit the thing inside No, no that happens Bounce off or anything? Okay So what's your point so you think this is a conspiracy theory and you think it's full of crap Yeah

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2:38:20 Yeah, this is the Rockefeller or in this case Rickafella Hospital scandal patients and relatives of those treated at a famous research hospital here in New York are looking for answers tonight They want to know why Rockefeller University stayed quiet about a prominent doctor who died 11 years ago But it's believed to have abused children for decades victims could number over a thousand which would potentially make it the largest case of sexual abuse by one person in US history. More on this now from Anna Warner, and a warning some of the details you're about to hear are graphic. He was revered like a god... Matt Harris was one of thousands of former patients who saw Dr. Reginald Archibald as children at the prestigious Rockefeller Institute in New York City

2:39:06 Stippald was a highly regarded growth specialist who said he could help children who were not maturing like their peers. He was going to be our family's savior Archibald's research was supposed to help kids grow taller, but these former patients told us he sexually abused them. Harris was 14, Gail Coleman was 11 Robert Granada was 8 and Mitchell Schurrer was just 5 The entire time you're in the room there with him your naked He took his finger and he pushed one of my nipples. And he basically proceeded to masturbate me. He would rub there and start asking, does this feel good? In a statement in October officials revealed they'd investigated a complaint about Archibald's inappropriate conduct in 2004 and reported it to authorities but they also found complaints going back to the 1990s some deemed credible

2:40:01 Attorney Jennifer Freeman says her firm has had hundreds of calls. So what does that say to you? That says that there are a tremendous number of victims out there It was probably year after I started seeing them Yet these former patients say they never heard anything from the hospital until officials there sent out this letter in October To more than 1,000 of Archibald's former patients asking for information I got the letter and all of sudden I felt like i was flashing back 50 years ago. It was burned in my brain what he did to me What do you make of the hospital's statements? I'm outraged

2:40:41 Gail Coleman says she's particularly angry because the doctor took pictures. She and the others were told to stand without clothing like the children in these old studies while he took polaroid photos of their naked bodies Those pictures are what has haunted me through the years In 2003, she contacted the hospital looking for answers And I got my medical records back and there were no pictures And that tells me they weren't for medical research, they were for him. When something like this happens to you, you're kind of robbed of hope, robbed of trusting people, trusting institutions, trusting humanity... They had to know something was going on! So if the hospital comes out and says

2:41:25 Well, nobody inside our hospital knew what he was doing. I don't believe it. I can't believe that the hospital has to take some responsibility for this Oh my god! This is... bums me out This is almost like the clip we had on The Last Show with the transgendering children Yeah, well the thing is I'm with these people who say that the hot date somebody had to know something. This is bullcrap There's like the Jimmy Savile thing Yeah this and where is this guy right now dead oh Just like Jimmy Saville How long has he been dead? I think he died in 2011 seven years All right Thanks some totally gross out now

2:42:13 Well, it is gross. I find it and I don't think CBS ran in the regular news because for that reason to grow, it's a disgusting story guys getting away with this. You know all of us show you how to grow here though. Look at growing now. I mean the whole thing is gross and it's like nobody's noticing nobody there's been complaints and nobody pays attention to it? I don't know. It did get just speaking of you could call out pedophiles from guy playing Santa Claus at Macy's Yeah, so what's your point? Well the thing is I mean how about going after the real pedophiles not to Santa but this guy. Well he's dead. Oh well they're going after him now like Savile yeah I don't like this clip anyway i did get a very thoughtful note from Ali you know Ali she's the official no agenda tranny okay where she from

2:43:15 I don't know. She's in some Midwestern state, although she sent me the note she said a note here from the official NOA agenda Tranny...I'm sorry now known as the transgendered person. No you can't say tranny and she says something that made me think about what's really going on with the identity politics particularly when it comes to transgendered people yes transgender people And this was I think in response to the clip of the Los Angeles clinic that was you know stopping puberty For kids as young as six or seven to help them understand who they are before they continue with the with the right Puberty we have entitled the show after that. Yeah, but Ali Jade says I agree with you on The internet social media influencing transgender cases but not all are and here's your point. I'm 31

2:44:12 And I just kind of questioned whatever the hell I was without the internet or any outside influences. My parents were religious and conservative, I'm not alone! And here's the thing... A lot of us older generations that came before the social media blast started churning out all the letters added to LGBT, personally most of us older ones do not like the loud annoying trans-social generation Our goal was to move into a normal life, in her case as a woman. Not to live life as a transgendered person and it was something that I've been... It was in my mind for a long time is like if you are transgendered and you truly believe that you were born in the wrong body And you need to become a man or a woman then you just become man or woman isn't that the whole point?

2:45:02 But why then is there this huge group that wants to identify as kind of stuck in between? Do you know what I mean? You're asking me?! Well, no. It's kind of rhetorical it just seems like that is so wrong if you're either man or woman...I'm just going by today social justice warrior notifications and if your transgender okay great I believe that I'm a woman and then I'm gonna dress like a woman gonna act like a woman I may have my body changed to be a woman then I'm a woman stop calling them transgendered unless your I mean you really separating people

2:45:39 Do you know what I mean? It feels very wrong. The point is to create oppressed classes, that's what identity politics is Well it's working Yeah of course it is And people should reject it These things are well thought out schemes and by the way its Trump's fault Well hello we all know that That was an easy one. Orange man bad! All right, Brexit still on the... it's a cliffhanger as to what's going to happen. Theresa May is still hanging on to power but now they can't do anything about her power for the next 12 months you know that when they do no confidence vote and she gets through then she gets through exactly once you get through it and you're good to go for the next year I

2:46:26 I would have voted no confidence right off the bat, the minute i heard her in the prime minister question time when she answered this question. I would have said No Confidence! Kick Her Out! So knowing you for 20 years...I just don't believe that if your deal goes down You are the kind of person who will contemplate taking this country into a no-deal situation Am I wrong? The decision, it will be a decision for Parliament as to whether they accept the deal that I and the government have negotiated on behalf of the United Kingdom with the European Union. The one she negotiated on behalf of the European Union? Yeah there you go again this is one of the thesis people who are new listeners to this show we have a theory that continues to pay dividends which is that truth must always come out and there's a background for it

2:45:39 Do you know what I mean? It feels very wrong. The point is to create oppressed classes, that's what identity politics is Well it's working Yeah of course it is And people should reject it These things are well thought out schemes and by the way its Trump's fault Well hello we all know that That was an easy one. Orange man bad! All right, Brexit still on the... it's a cliffhanger as to what's going to happen. Theresa May is still hanging on to power but now they can't do anything about her power for the next 12 months you know that when they do no confidence vote and she gets through then she gets through exactly once you get through it and you're good to go for the next year I

2:46:26 I would have voted no confidence right off the bat, the minute i heard her in the prime minister question time when she answered this question. I would have said No Confidence! Kick Her Out! So knowing you for 20 years...I just don't believe that if your deal goes down You are the kind of person who will contemplate taking this country into a no-deal situation Am I wrong? The decision, it will be a decision for Parliament as to whether they accept the deal that I and the government have negotiated on behalf of the United Kingdom with the European Union. The one she negotiated on behalf of the European Union? Yeah there you go again this is one of the thesis people who are new listeners to this show we have a theory that continues to pay dividends which is that truth must always come out and there's a background for it

2:47:23 It gives us belief that this is probably true. And that is people will slip up, I guess it used to be called the Freudian slip and then we laughed it off as a joke, ha-ha-ha, Freudian slip but what's going on is they're saying things that they believe... They're telling us reality accidentally because they can't hold it together. It always wants to come out! It always wants to come out! Yeah, so she's working on behalf of the EU. Of course she is got a quick OTG This is another study It will not surprise you but it's always fun to bring you the facts some studies suggest adolescents and young adults Exchange 60 to 100 text messages a day But what about at night when they're sleeping? Well apparently that texting doesn't stop there either It's called sleep texting really how do you text me for sleeping

2:48:16 Really? How is that possible? A new study from a Villanova College of Nursing professor says, a growing number of college students are texting friends in the wee hours of the night with no recollection of having done so. More than 25% of the kids surveyed said they texted in their sleep 72 percent of them say they don't remember doing it People have gotten used to sleeping next to their devices. So subconsciously people are falling off the sleep and there may be some angst about communicating with someone and trying to get a message to someone, and they're reaching for the phone and communicating in this kind of altered state of consciousness The problem here say experts is that sleep texting causes interrupted sleep which can affect someone mentally physically and more It affects you emotionally because people become more anxious or depressed

2:49:08 when they haven't had enough sleep. And now, sleep texting appears to be more frequent! The solutions say experts ditch the phone and the electronics get them out of the bedroom and give your brain the rest it needs I gotta tell you if your sleep texting You are definitely a NPC in the game Your just running your program No, I want to mention a couple of things one is that people unfortunately use these stupid phones as their alarm clocks Yes, so they're not getting them out of the bedroom. I just story I want to follow up on some later date on the alarm clock side of it Oh on this whole store where there's sleep texting mm-hmm gotcha. It's skeptical alright everybody

2:49:55 Couple more days and then we'll see what's happening with Sunday's deconstruction There's a lot happening and you're not seeing it on your cable news networks. That's for sure So forever scanning the airwaves of Pluto TV Dan coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 in the governmental maps in the 5 by 9 Cluedio Here in the common law condo while it still lasts hello Apple in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where, which is located in the original California. Not some interloper I'm John C Dvorak and we return on Sunday right here on no agenda remember dvorak.org slash na until then adios mofos

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2:51:48 And our wall will be every bit as good as that, if not better. So the wall will get built. The wall! We thought we were going to get it passed in the Senate, Nancy. We would do it immediately. We'd get it passed very easily in the House. We would get it... Nancy I'll have it passed in two seconds. The wall! I am proud to shut down the government for border security cuts. Wall! The wall! You need the wall. The wall is a... Excuse me did we win the Senate? We won the Senate When the President brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana He's in real trouble When I did we did win North Dakota, please don't characterize The strength that I bring to this meeting as the leader of a house Democrat who just won the big day. Elections have consequences Mr President Thank you very much everybody

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