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00:00 Don't cut in line and stop stealing our secrets! Watching the migrant crisis live from Fat Cat City here in downtown Lucerne, Switzerland. In The Corner! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we're pre-Zephyr and i thought i'd catch him off guard. I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Oh yeah, I fumbled a little but I was taking up on your challenge right there. I'm not going to mess around. I wanted to get pre Zephyr started of the show

00:43 This our goal and It's our goal apparently it's newly argued. It's now our goal to start the show pre Zephyr So we used to actually try this or the showed nine yeah, oh well this effort goes by 915 so I think priest efforts probably not a bad did I just say it's Thursday? I keep doing this its Sunday Did you say it's Thursday? Yeah. Opening? And yeah, and do you remember the show The... your doubleheader I said Thursday and it was Sunday There is something about Thursdays and Sundays like I keep messing up You did on the other show Yes! And you edited that and didn't even catch it Well thats one thing I don't really pay much attention to I'm not trying to get ready to give my own intro Well I got the date right at least It is a wrong day Yeah four years from now we're nailed it Anyway I apologize Its Tina

01:39 Hey! You're wrong. What are you doing girl? Go sightseeing She's in Switzerland, she's listening to the show what's wrong with that well I think this show probably is better than the sightseeing in Switzerland Well, I know she was out on Lake Lucerne. She's having a good time Lake Lucerne is nice pretty lake very nice free like and let's for just a moment Let's just thank the gods for a second for providing us with the jiggas We need to make this show possible from two completely different locations on earth Where for me it is 6.15pm on Thursday and for you it's 9.15am on Sunday. I knew they were behind the times in Switzerland, what year was that? Yeah, I don't know... So anyway, I'm in Lucerne, Switzerland today!

02:32 Well, because tomorrow we're going up to CERN to see the... That's right. You're gonna go actually look at the Hadron Collider. You'll be feet on the ground at the Hadron Collider Yes! The Large Hadron Collider no less How many guys is it gonna take to throw you in? Look this may be the last show so I'm already drinking So i'm feeling good Oh there it is Alright 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 9 cars short one What?! Yeah One second how come I didn't have you had the foamer no there's something You know, I'm dealing with different screen real estate here. Ah, there we go. Uh, I opened up to database searches All right, just pretend you heard the foamer Oh my god No, it's more like this Beautiful yeah So going up to the large Hadron Collider and apparently they do have a gift shop

03:31 I will be picking day. Yeah, but they but they've also they've shut it down I think it's a down gotta pay for this collider somehow the gift shop doesn't It's shut down in these weeks for some kind of maintenance So they say. Who knows what they're really up to? They have to wait for that black hole to recede. Let me give you a little travel update, John just... Yes we should mention that you're on the road. You've got engaged for the 15th time and by the way I had them meeting at the millennial table about your engagement and

04:12 JC said, I thought he already was engaged. And Jay the younger millennial says oh no no that was a promise. Yes! That's correct that was not promise but commitment. It is called promise nowadays. Okay I'll take it as promised. What? When did they complicate these matters? It's all about pressure man so Yes, but it's no it's not the 15th time. You're only in stage two then? Listen thank you very much for the newsletter In which you not only incorrectly named Tiffany Willow But then also insinuated I'm wearing a bra I mean you really- No! I thought that was I thought was Willow's uh It was Tiffany was there too you know it's like siblings we hang out at each other's anniversary parties Oh I think they are pretty similar to each other

05:05 I thought it was very funny. Here's Willow with her son Elon Musk. Jay comes into the room, she's got the newsletter and says is Curry related to Elon Musk? That was pretty funny but here's the irony of it all So we travel by train and you know, we get in and we walk around. I got stuff to tell you about what we've seen and then we were in bed and it's like...

05:41 Jeez, have you seen the draft newsletter? Have you heard from John?" I said no. It's like hmmm... We're going on 1.30am, 2 o'clock his time and saying that's odd and then now it's midnight our time so I'll email him. He's like hey okay newsletter coming The newsletter comes in about 10 minutes later And it's nothing but insulting What?! Name one thing Insinuating I'm wearing a bra Hey, this newsletter is comedy gold. You need to subscribe to it! Any No Agenda Show Notes page or noagendashow.com shows you how. So we left Lake Como

06:22 The board was a Saturday. I was sad it yeah, Saturday And we took the train to Lucerne which is a very very easy connection Everything runs beautifully on time That's what Mussolini took care of but the first thing we noticed at at Como at the Como Train Station is A lot of Asians with selfie sticks walking around then and I don't know if something if it's like a timing or you know vacation time and I'm not sure where these are people are from. China probably, I think China but yeah there was a couple of people we looked like yeah they look like k-poppers so they could have been South Korea but i would say in general I thought most of them were from China um and this they're all over uh Luzern and also at the train station as people arriving a lot of

07:16 kind of middle-aged guys, I'd say like my age. Paunchy but all decked out in bike racing outfits and they're just everywhere it's almost like the douchebag Silicon Valley guys you know who take their bikes on the jet or send them ahead and then I think they're training in the Italian mountains. And none of them really look the part, you know? They got the paunch. Well except for their outfits. Yeah and the outfits and their legs are shaved but otherwise dude... You should go to the guy say hey is that DELO Sport paying for you? Are they giving you money where your colors? You almost want to ask like wow! Your sponsored?! Please give me a break

08:00 They sponsor anybody, don't they? These days anybody. Also I wanted to mention holy smokes the difference in prices between Italy where we were of course is you know there's many regions in Italy but we weren't that far away and Lake Como and here in Luzern it's triple the price of everything It's mind-boggling how do these people afford this? It's really insanely expensive Luckily we're only here for a couple of days. Now on the train something very interesting happened The Swiss border guard came through the train just as we were going from I guess Lugano, crossing the border and these guys come through and actually they were kind of you know They seem kind of friendly of course We have the obvious white privilege...I guess So no just looking at them okay? They drop by and it's just friendly nod You see them going in between the cars and just

08:56 knocking but then forcefully opening the bathrooms. And I guess they're looking for, well...I know what they're looking for now because they got off at the first stop in Switzerland and we are sitting there right next to on that on the train station They have a smoking booth so it's kind of like a glass cage and there is three guys in their black guys very dark black important for this story in this context Kind of in this, you know like Gucci type gold glittery outfit stuff with iPhones. Kind of the stuff that I suspected would be in their suitcase that they're going to sell wherever they're going to wind up and these guys we see them They go up to them and ask him a question And whatever the answer was it was not satisfactory The guy's fumbling with his iPhone This border guard grabs his phone pulls it and the guy's head snaps down because he had his earphones plugged in

09:51 He grabs up the other guys phones and immediately you see these guys are in trouble. There's no passports they can produce, and they got nailed! And these guys were not messing around. They were straight to search of their baggage... The Swiss? Yeah because what is happening is that all these migrants coming into Italy and the Swiss do NOT want them in their country, and they mean business I mean, Tina was like shocked. The Swiss are very strict with their immigration. Holy crap! Yeah they were not messing around and that's a... it was rather interesting to see yeah the Swisses get through this whole thing without having any migrants at all we don't talk about that do we? No they also have no beggars no homeless here you're talking about Hungary Hungary is bad guys but the Swiss you know they finance all the wars you know no one's gonna mess with the Swiss leave them alone

10:42 And we get here and by coincidence it's the Luzerne Festival which means there is music everywhere and just a ton of classical cars right kind of in the middle of downtown. Extremely nice, but very strange. If you want to go shopping or you want to get anything outside of dinner watches and chocolate You have to go back to the train station underneath Luzerne train station is a mall that is mind-boggling how big it is And that's where everyone shops It's where everyone does their...

11:20 high-end clothing stores, of course more jewelry stores but that's where the big supermarket is. It's really bizarre and for a guy with... Oh well that keeps the rest of the town pristine! It does it keeps it... And we were there Saturday night because we wanted to get some groceries for this morning and it was just insanely busy you know eight checkout lines 40 people deep Just at the mall. Yeah, the mall underneath the train station madhouse and for a guy with hearing aids it was really quite a sensory overload like what's going on? Just lot of noise see what else I have to mention our travel. Oh yeah, The minute we cross the border start getting spam in German and it's really irking me how do they do this? How did they What are they attaching to me that they know how to start emailing mean the minute I hit their country

12:12 How does that work? Is that... It's not you, it's the phone. You're just doing it to everybody. No no no! I was not on my phone We were on Wi-Fi What do you mean he wasn't on your phone? He was coming through your earbuds for your hearing aid? What are you talking about?! I'm connected through the dongle with my laptop Oh, you're talking about your computer. Yes my computer and then I start getting spam in German on email at adamatcurry dot com the minute we it was Italian spam before that didn't even mention that part and now hit the border and boom I started getting German spam is this a... In your e-mail? My email yeah in my email what's the what's the prefix or the top level domain on your email? curry dot com

13:01 Is that going through Google or anything? No, no. Not curry dot com It's right through the curtain you mean your own email server Yes my own yeah so somehow I have no idea now that you say it that way doesn't make any sense at all! It must be somehow Unless they got some...they got a chip in you man It's the hearing aids back to the hearing aids Yeah, we know where he is. Could be the hearing aids. No I think it's got an IP address don't they? It's gotta be cookies in my browser or something that gets snooped and then they suck it off so to speak and then they send it on. Cookies In My Browser. It went fast though! What was the name of that song? People can do this one. Cookies In My Browser Anyway go on sorry

13:43 So I was just amazed. I mean that it happens, we've seen this a lot but that it was right past the border. I'm just like bloop bloop bloop. I see the emails come in and its like wow! That's pretty sophisticated It's like there is a big giant room and there is a screen and theres little white dot No there are two One for each hearing aid And they're moving across the border to say okay flip this switch give them through German now Oh my goodness They're following you Anyway so were at Airbnb even though I despise the company Uh, yeah. No I haven't liked them for a while because they're also doing pricing based upon you know profile so i have Tina now do all the uh the ordering because then we get it... They jip you? Because your...? Because I've done it a lot or whatever they just trying to get me to pay a higher price and she logs in she uses her account and she gets a lower price so fine! That's outrageous It's the same as Uber We've seen this happen

14:44 But this particular Airbnb, I gotta tell you when people are doing straight-up Airbnb and not the so called sharing of their home there's always things wrong. You know, there's just little things that if you lived here... Yes because it's usually not cared for properly. Well no it's meticulously cared for. It's very clean everything is very nice. We had a place in London where the stove wasn't hooked to the walls when you It's that kind of stuff, you know like light bulbs are out because no one said right the light bulbs were out in the kitchen and then switch is none of thing. You put a new bulb and didn't work exactly. Yeah Oh yeah Then you don't know which switch to hit And then it's all kinds of weird little things like that in this place also has one toilet upstairs. It's kind of a loft half-floor

15:38 half thing. One toilet, poop hole upstairs, shower downstairs and six beds! You know there's a bathroom with the bathtub and the bed in the same room I gotta take a picture of that you won't believe it That's not what we're sleeping. We're sleeping downstairs in the living room, which was not in the picture of the Airbnb. There was no picture of the bed in the living room that's what we were sleeping on which is a direct diagonal view of the balcony doors which have no shade so people across the way can just see you in your bed. It's a whole bunch of things wrong and I think there should be rules about that You know? You should live in the place if you are part of this sharing economy

16:24 Yeah, this whole sharing thing is nonsense. Bullcrap. Exactly All right So the only things that got left is total Asian invasion here just everywhere What what is it in the culture of I'll just say if I think it's the Chinese That they're so damn rude. They're all just pushing up against you, don't give a crap about you in the way... Okay now that's how you tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese. Oh Japanese are polite I know the Japanese. They're all like cuddled together and they got signs and sticks with big yellow dot at the top. Fuzzy ball fuzzy ball. And they all stick around together and their not rude

17:03 No, Chinese are always rude. They're they're rude in China Why is that? What is it like what is this I doesn't bother me so much. Um, I'm a bigger guy I'm six one right but does it bother them that there are they rude to each other or how does it work? Yes why yeah It's just their culture. It's not rude, they're not being rude! Look I'm gonna... there is a line there is spot right in front of you. Oh yeah they cut in line. Let me just cut right in front of ya because your're not using that area. Tina almost cut this Chinese lady with her spoon when a lady tried to cut in front of he at the ice cream parlor She did the right thing. She said hey hey she got a plastic spoon Yeah That's how you do it

17:50 It's just insane though. They back off! Oh they do back off but I don't know how does that happen? So they don't think that's rude so cutting a line in China is just normal It is. When you go to China, yeah it's very normal Well there are more reasons I mean so...I don't care what Google does with their search engine but the fact that you're supporting these rude bastards is a problem They're not rude by their definition of rude Hey when I go to a country I try to be into the culture I'm not trying to be an A-hole American No, I agree with that. It's rude they aren't adopting local customs Yes Yes, but hey with the diversity thing going on local customers don't mean anything anymore get over it Yeah I'm gonna go to China and just be a dick you fit right in Anyway selfie sticks galore. They didn't get the the memo This is an old fad in and what are they? Okay so then

18:44 Right by the lake, there's swans. And the swans are very beautiful and they've gotten this whole trick... I know swans! I've had swans around me. They're terrible animals. They're terrible animals and they're scam artists so you know like ohhhh they do their beautiful wings up like ooh feed me and everywhere there signs in every language including Chinese don't feed the swans of course the Chinese are on the other side of the gate feeding the swans taking selfies with the swans standing in swan poop Swans poop like massive, massive poop. It just kind of ruins everything. The side of the gate! Damn Chinese... Hey good news though? I think they're lucky- the only people that are happy about the Chinese tourists are the Germans because the Germans were always seen as the most rude horrible travelers and tourists. That's good Hans look at that chink he is ruder than us ha

19:42 I will say though that now, I'm a little older and in my 50s all of my Dutch French German it's kind of melded together and i'm very capable of functioning without even thinking about. I see the words, I can read the sentences, I can understand what people are saying, I can make myself understood It's very interesting that I really don't have to think about it. And for the Swiss, thank goodness they have Lime Electric Scooters! Woohoo! The plague is here!

20:21 This really, really is... I'm taking it back. It's kind of interesting. It doesn't seem like it's within their ability to want something like that or allow it Well as you know these has nothing to do with wanting it has to do with these people just drop the stuff in You know that Yeah but Swiss usually crack down on that sort of thing they're very... They still may, hey do you know Damien Germainier? Is it Germainier? Yes A chef No, no. Well there's like big signs everywhere that he is at the... He's a big shot? At the big hotel and you know looking...He's got tattoos and looks really chef-y. It's like guest chef Damien Germain! You don't know him then. Well I mean it doesn't mean he is not famous but he isn't one of the guys I know

21:16 I was just reading about another shamed chef recently, and I guess in New York he...I can't remember his name already. But he was all tatted up and apparently a horrible... You sure it's not this guy? Might be the guy with another name! It might be this guy! Yeah. He was rousted from his whole operation after being horribly rude sexist pig. Oh nice And he was done. Some of these guys are weird, these chefs. So I'm a little... well, I'm happy on one hand and then I'm a little disappointed on the other that

21:59 You know now everyone is catching on to the fake storm news and now people are doing their own funny videos on YouTube. It's kind of our bit, it's our bit you know we've been doing that bit for a long time and I don't feel like doing it anymore because people doing the video version of it is honestly better than our audio version there's pretty funny stuff out there yeah some good stuff although sometimes you just can't You just can't get away from From the funny bits. This is I think this is a CNN Emory you're in the middle of all that there How are things changing their? Yeah, Sandra I ran into my second civilian here. This is Amber... your last name is? Griffor and this is who down here? Arlo Okay all right now you live in Wilmington what are you doing out here on the boardwalk walking the dog Damn! What are you doing here it's supposed to be dangerous

22:55 Fox News has some of the best millennials reporting. This is fantastic. For the viewers, in terms of people that have stayed roughly seven according to officials what I was told just about two hours ago about 75% of population within this entire region has evacuated That still means 15 percent are still here waiting to ride it out You can't write this stuff It's like where do they come up with these reporters? Woo! But the storm was such a dud that even Al Gore couldn't use it to talk about climate change. So he went back to the good old standard of Hurricane Maria, although wait wasn't that Trump's fault? I don't understand. Some people evidently... What?!

23:44 It's all Trump's fault. He can't do these hurt. Yeah, exactly. Let me start that over again Some people evidently can still deny the reality It's a little bit harder to deny the 3 000 deaths in Puerto Rico from hurricane Maria last year Come on How far down that rabbit hole are people gonna follow? This is utter insanity. We have to wake up, we are alive in this moment! We ARE awake...we have to take action! Okay jeez I did want to say something about this death toll

24:24 Because I looked into this and it's not being explained properly. And here's a report actually because of course the whole idea was Hurricane Maria would be so Devastating it would all be Trumps fault He screwed it up twice in a row even after he knew we could do a great job and then the hurricane kind Of turned into a lot of water, and of course there's all people are always dying You know one guy electrocuted himself hooking up hooking up extension cords in the rain, you know someone has a heart attack and of course there was a tree that fell. I mean things do happen but you know people die every single day for a number of reasons so they really really tried to do something with this but now there's this death toll and i looked into this when it first came up and i can't remember what happened but it got shoved out of the news and its back in

25:12 President Trump is falsely blaming Democrats for inflating the death toll from last year's Hurricane Maria to make him look as bad as possible. Tweeting today, 3,000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico a long time later they started to report really large numbers like 3000 earlier this week claiming Puerto Rico was an incredible unsung success direct Eight deaths from Maria like drowning and injury were estimated at 64. But an independent study by George Washington University, commissioned by the Puerto Rican government, estimated nearly 3,000 people died in the aftermath of the storm due to a lack of resources. We are giving strong evidence that should not generate

25:58 political controversy. Republican representative Ileana Ross-Laitinen said only a warped mind would turn this statistic into fake news. The president has turned to conspiracy theories in the past, from falsely claiming former President Obama wasn't born in the U.S., suggesting Ted Cruz's father might be linked to the JFK assassination. No that was actually The National Enquirer but okay... Now a new cloud of controversy In its statement tonight the White House also insisted every death from Hurricane Maria is a horror

26:43 So I did look into this. I think we might have discussed it when this first came up, the 64 number is what i found interesting where does that come from? So this independent study that was done... The way they came up with their numbers which- And by the way let's make sure to remention this on behest of the government looking for more money Oh totally In that same period the year before the hurricane, there were 64 people less that had died as in the same period when they were asking these independent questions. So people die all the time and lots of people die in poor countries and why it's poor and where this problem is a whole different conversation because yes they are a US protectorate

27:30 But that difference was 64 which is why I said well, 64 people died. But this independent study they went around to all these homes and said hey did someone die? Yeah someone died from the hurricane yeah you know that was the study whereas if those 3,000 people hadn't if there was no hurricane apparently three thousand people wouldn't have died that would have been an astronomical amount of people to have not died according to the number of people that die in that period every year in Puerto Rico. That's how they come up with the 64 and no one is going back and saying, hey look at the numbers look at the year before look it five years before you'll see the number of people who die in those five months but now it's all of course Trumps fault but that's where the 64 comes from and that's where the discrepancy is well that's pretty simple they should be able to just expose that oh please

28:27 Please. You were you know this it was gonna be a four and it was gonna be a five And there's gonna get then it was a two, and that's and that's tropical storm It became a tropical storm which again is does the same thing to happen in Houston Well, yeah in Houston but this is the problem and I think you know there's a lot of water There's a lot of damage But it's not what happens instead of being like a storm just goes and blows everything down and gets out of there. It sits and dumps crap loads a lot of water. It's a bad situation damaging as the storm but it's not quite as spectacular to film exactly but A couple of things I have first of all before playing either deep

29:29 Deep what deep hold on a second. I'm just looking for the clip This is the jamming to stud tell me listen to this carefully jamming two store storm stories That's all I got is that your clip yeah, oh The reason is because I'm trying to dissecting what they're how they were doing this. They played all the stuff about the storm in North Carolina and that was the end of their coverage, and they cut right to the storm- the real storm in the Philippines! Oh yeah, yeah that's all over the news. That one has got 200 mile an hour winds it's not a slouch of a storm but they can't blame that on Trump

30:19 Oh, no. Because Duarte hates him? No, Duarte hates him so it's not working out yet. Hmm okay but what... But the way they did this it made it sound like... Let me hear again Just about an hour worth of storm coverage and play that clip again here is how they come out of it So another couple feet Another foot would have been on top of her The strongest storm on planet this year Huh! So they come out one storm story Which and they get in if you just look casually listening is this is what happened to me because I'm listening to all these You thought it was this? Floor, they say the strongest storm Wow. I didn't know was the strongest storm this year so far And then I had a listen longer and I feel ah you're talking about another storm altogether that just jams your stories together Bastards well here's what the actual big storm downplayed did play actual big storm Actual Big Storm

31:18 The strongest storm on the planet this year, Typhoon Mangkut lashed at the Philippines. With torrential rain and fierce winds gusting to 200 miles per hour. This is nature something you cannot go against Along roads strewn with trees and debris we drove north with workers clearing downed power lines And felt the punch of Mangkut's wind With more than 5 million people living in its path, thousands were evacuated from their homes to disaster centers. The typhoons rain banned nearly 550 miles wide. This fisherman nearly drowned trying to save his boat. This storm is different than others he tells us I thought i was going to die

32:01 For hours, Mankut wreaked havoc on crops here. Set off landslides and swelled rivers before churning out to sea." You know I'm very surprised if they could only find one slight Trump angle it would be perfect! Well that you can already tell they're giving up because this is a low-key report yeah there's no one... This is a major major massive storm It's heading right into Hong Kong which has got to be a laugh riot to be there during this And they're just playing well and a couple people got knocked over, and there's the flood. Fishermen... They're just down compared to what they are playing our local one which is oh my god every all hells breaking loose See I don't understand that could they should have said thanks to Trump pulling out of the Paris Accord this is our future look at these dead people Well thats what they would do I didn't get the democracy now clip but im sure thats how they handled it

32:58 Now, I want to just tell people there's a blog, a weather blog called the Cliff Mass Weather and Climate Blog. And this guy is in Washington State and it's CLIFF. M-A-S-S. And you should just subscribe to his blog, he is a real climatologist and he knows all this stuff deep and he doesn't... He's not an anti climate guy but he gets accused of being it's like you're a Trump apologist. It's the Trump Apologist Syndrome. Of course He went through all the documentation because of all these assertions, cause he finds somebody to say something about the weather. He checks it out. All these assertions that we're getting more storms and they're worse and all the rest of it. He's gone through the documentation in his most recent post is bull crap! We're having less and less major storms like this. Oh no, that's not good? No so nobody wants to talk about it. In fact I got this clip from a guy in Australia

34:03 Professor Ian Plymer, does the climate change always changes clip which is funny? I think Karen Phillips wants to change climate then read history. Go back a little bit, read history it's been validated by the geology its been validated by so many proxies and what we see is climate always changes I'm not a climate denier its... Nah! The people who want to have global warming deny that climate changes they deny what we have known for thousands of years climate always changes Ah don't you dare So there are the deniers

34:42 Yes, denying climate change. Anyway... anyway, denying climate... climate change deniers! Sorry sorry Okay, well I got my storm watch clip in the summary from CBS. Good evening, I'm Jeff Glore in Wilmington North Carolina and this is a special edition of the CBS Evening News The rain will barely let up here on this coast for another 24 hours The preliminary rainfall totals from Florence are staggering the National Weather Service says more than 30 inches of rain was measured in Swansboro, North Carolina. That is shatters the state's tropical system rainfall record of more than 24 inches set during Hurricane Floyd in 1999. Officials warn some rivers are approaching historic flood levels and the worst of it may still be to come The death toll from Florence climbed today at least 12 Some have been killed by fallen trees others have died on flooded roads

35:42 Nearly a million homes and businesses in the Carolinas have lost power. Today, the mayor of Wilmington told us it could take weeks to restore all electricity to this city President Trump and Vice President Pence receive updates on the storm at the White House today. The president plans to travel here sometime soon." We have a team of correspondents covering this disaster... What a waste of resources! And I killed it there because it went from one team member into another, each of them interviewing some hick. Yeah. Well you know this is the worst I've ever seen it? I've been here for 40 years and its never been this bad something's wrong here

36:23 111 is all man on the street stuff it was really miserable i must say of course I don't have any television over here and watched in except for a little bit of strange German TV last night but I saw the weather channel they've got some pretty cool virtual set 3D graphics where that the host standing there and then it's like she standing in middle of North somewhere in North Carolina, and then she shows the water level what it coming up And it comes up around her and a virtual like you have to see it. It's in the show notes They got some cool tech to do this again waste of resources but still Of course its entertainment yeah You know a lot of people I saw tweeting about John Kerry on Bill Maher last night

37:09 Which I've watched the interview and stupid blockhead. It just wasn't interesting at all In fact, he's a boring guy He's always been born this way lost the election man who was making jokes and Bill Maher was little annoyed by it because you know He does the jokes but then I'm but then I noticed that Steve Ballmer Was on the show so if we got a you know, it's shuttle for now You gotta go back and watch it Well, I have a couple clips for you Steve has found philanthropy and the LA Clippers, of course. And he has this outfit called USA Facts. Facts, facts, facts... Fact check false? And so it just gives you the facts, the government numbers, the facts Very interesting and I'm not quite sure what Bill Maher or his producers expected but it didn't quite turn out the way I think he expected Have a listen Well we started-I started about four years ago My wife said I'd retired She said It's time to get involved philanthropically Hey wait stop! Stop

38:12 Back it up. I think you got the wrong clip, that's Chris Farley in an old Saturday Night Live bit isn't it? Interestingly enough, I didn't clip but Bill Maher actually said did Chris Farley die and move into your body Yeah, okay. There's a lot of crappy stuff that was said here. We'll continue we're focused and for those who don't know Balmer used to be the CEO of Microsoft and he was you know He's kind of interesting guy developers on kids and kids in need I said all we need to do is pair taxes Let's be good taxpayers government takes care of that And she said dude come on we can do better than that right but it got me to say I wonder really where

38:53 the tax dollars come from and where they go. It's so amazing! Just the facts, right? People will like scroll through a hundred Yelp reviews to find a taco stand but they have no idea where their tax dollars go. And you did it we did a deep dive Like a businessman, because you were the head of Microsoft. You're a businessman. I said at least ought to read stuff that's as good as you can read about any public company To find out where the money is going what it's doing what the outcome is and give us some examples like health care Take healthcare since 1980 Healthcare per person inflation adjusted is up 225 percent two hundred twenty five percent

39:39 Okay, let's take a look people like to talk about life expectancy. I'm not a life expectancy guy that's forecast and futures I just look at the average age at which people die That seems to be about actuals now You're never gonna die Nothing can kill this right over here, but in the last 20 years Average age at which people die has gone from 72.3 years to 72.9 years. That's it! For all the money we're just hemorrhaging into healthcare, you'd think we would be buying people extra life but obesity is up a lot of these other factors so are we spending our healthcare dollars well?

40:19 Oh, Rutrow. Hmm... That isn't exactly what Bill Maher wanted to hear with all this health care spending that we're talking about or that he's talking about Let's try another topic Take government numbers We'll show you what they are I mean you can take a look at the border thing Border agents are up Apprehensions are down Undocumented immigrant estimates are flat Well, you have to decide how you think about it. We can't tell ya. Right. We'll just give you the numbers. Oh damn! Wait a minute so it actually works enforcing the border? Mmm... Let's try another topic So what about education are our children reading good or...?

39:39 Okay, let's take a look people like to talk about life expectancy. I'm not a life expectancy guy that's forecast and futures I just look at the average age at which people die That seems to be about actuals now You're never gonna die Nothing can kill this right over here, but in the last 20 years Average age at which people die has gone from 72.3 years to 72.9 years. That's it! For all the money we're just hemorrhaging into healthcare, you'd think we would be buying people extra life but obesity is up a lot of these other factors so are we spending our healthcare dollars well?

40:19 Oh, Rutrow. Hmm... That isn't exactly what Bill Maher wanted to hear with all this health care spending that we're talking about or that he's talking about Let's try another topic Take government numbers We'll show you what they are I mean you can take a look at the border thing Border agents are up Apprehensions are down Undocumented immigrant estimates are flat Well, you have to decide how you think about it. We can't tell ya. Right. We'll just give you the numbers. Oh damn! Wait a minute so it actually works enforcing the border? Mmm... Let's try another topic So what about education are our children reading good or...?

40:57 Oh, okay! You got me there. Here you can look at that number. Education spend per student has about doubled over the class- again inflation adjusted over the last 30 years or so. About doubled and yet still Only about a third of our kids third grade level can read at grade level are proficient in third-grade reading A third of kids and yet we have doubled spend See, I don't think Bill Maher realized he invited a Republican Into his show because it built a that and Balmer keeps saying oh It's just the numbers just the numbers but what he's saying is

41:40 Just pouring all this stupid money into all of these things the way you've been doing it doesn't work. Your system doesn't work and then Bill Maher who in the beginning of the interview sets it up by saying, You're worth 47 billion does this I just gave a million dollars to the Democrats. For me that's a lot of money. Because I think the most important thing to do right now is get rid of Donald Trump or at least check him. Most important thing in the world! Because like even though that's a lot of money it won't change my life. I wouldn't have to drive an uber, I don't have expensive hobbies... ...I'm not one of those dumbass celebrities who has you know fucking let's not go into it But it seems like you could win this election by yourself and not feel it

42:29 And me personally, I would think that's about the most unethical thing you could possibly do. For yourself? You don't think turning an election is an ethical thing to do when the person you're running against is Trump? Do it Steve! Come on Steve! Does he get into a question of how you think about things? No for my morals no. I'm not buying elections. I'm just not doing it Okay...I tried What is this all about? Take your billions of dollars, Steve and buy the election away from Trump. We already know that didn't work when they tried to buy the election away from Trump with Hillary. She'd spend twice as much money! How much more she's up to a billion what did what more do you get put two billion in to maybe beat him well if You'd like I can lead us down the Hillary path because I got we go I got the full video Of Hilary at lesbians who tech

43:31 It was hard finding it actually. And there were little snippets, I don't know if they wanted it out or something? They probably didn't want it out! Yeah...it seems like- If its hard to find there's a reason. Yeah, I agree and there was actually a comic strip blogger who came through at the end that really appreciated And he found the full-length video. So I did pull a number of clips, we...I'm not going to play them all, probably put more in the show notes than we're gonna play but and by the way while i was looking for this video there's you say you're looking for Hillary Clinton lesbians who tech and of course I've been using Bing as we've been Bingers for awhile now

44:11 And all of a sudden Bing says, oh you know you do have moderate safe or safe search set to moderate. You click here to turn it off like I want to find gotta find this video let me tell you if you turn off safe search on being on lesbians who tech Somehow it thinks you're looking for lesbians who teach and it's very different search experience And being Bing has a very expansive non safe search Results, huh? It was just the tip if you're interested

44:47 So we finally got the video. You know what I mean? And, uh...I don't have the name of the woman who interviewed her on stage but there was a lot of reference to Kara Swisher's interview which you'll hear and it was just so much love in the room for Hillary and there were even some crowd shots where you could see people not clapping but snapping their fingers which as we know is a complete Austin thing these days as well So here she is, we're going to bring her up on stage and have a chat with her. Did you know that you were a lesbian icon? I mean it's basically like RBG... You.. And i just want to say your more to us than just the pantsuits Well I am thrilled to hear that Instead of saying I'm bisexual which is pretty well known

45:37 And and you know, I don't want to trip to the pantsuits Well because okay just you know, I rarely do this but I have to oh and we're like Oh She's gonna say it tell you if you don't already that I am on People magazine's best dressed list Yes I guess you can only be on the best dressed list if you're a lesbian icon. I'm not quite sure how it works. Now, granted... That was subject changed of note? You think?! But it was also set up with the whole well lot people don't know this but

46:22 I dress in pantsuits. Like, what is this? Anyway... It's in the 70 plus category but no whatever Whatever so of course she's not there just to talk about herself Oh wait a minute she is The paperback version of her book is coming out I told her you know some of you might remember that She interviewed me two years ago the spring of 2017 and it was great interview it was tough as she always is During it I said things like, you know the Russians were more involved and all of that. And people are like oh she's lost it. Yes crazy so My paperback comes out Tuesday with you know some more information in an afterword So my goal is that typical for a paperback to have an afterword?

47:10 It's not unknown. Is to do everything I personally can do and inspire you to do, to elect Democrats and then make sure it is not stolen or undermined because we have a tremendous group of candidates really terrific people. I've been doing fundraisers especially for young women running for Congress but it won't matter if we don't vote so when you ask me that There's only one thing on my bucket list right now. Do everything I can do to help us save our country. Us! Wooo! Save our country, John, save our country. Save it from what? From Trump just Republicans evil horrible people

47:56 And the Russians. and said it is happening still. The Russians are now clearly in our electoral systems. Fact check false! Wait, wait... They're clearly in our electoral systems John? They're IN the systems? There's Russians leaving? I mean what she's referring to is that there have been some intrusions into voter registration databases, I believe two

48:39 Which doesn't really mean... Well, yeah. I think two is the accurate number Technically you're in the election system technically but you're not really changing anything or doing anything and that's pretty easily closed down which i think it is oh wait maybe it's not We don't have a good strategy to combat them In some states that are controlled by the other party I think they believe that its to their benefit Just so you know every lesbian in tech It's lesbians who do tech actually. Every lesbian who does tech is a Democrat, you clearly heard that there was no one who protested... What did they say? Like John Legend anyone is a creative person I write or artist anything... They're all Democrats! We are not going to really go into deep investigation

49:29 the Democrats, oh actually it was bipartisan an effort to try to do more to protect these upcoming elections which was voted down. So every possible approach to try and protect us from whatever it is they're doing there are many different ideas about that are being stymied so the best way to deal with it is just overwhelm with numbers they can't shave them on the margins, they can't suppress their way to a victory by preventing people young people minorities older people from voting. So I think that we've got to do everything we can but we still don't know what exactly the Russians and their allies are planning this time. Oh they're planning though! They're in the systems, they're planning and they are going to strike baby i'm telling you

50:23 But here's the clip that I thought was most important. Now remember, this is a tech conference although if you look at all the tweets with their hashtag LWDT There's not a lot of stories about technology, but a lot about LGBTQ and stuff like that But not a lot about tech. But anyway This is the tech community and here I think is her real message Well, I really want to do a big shout out to the tech community And she prefaces it by making sure you know she's talking to you tech community because a lot People after the election in 2016, you know looked up and they said we can do better. We can do better polling. We can do better voter protection campaign protection So I've been working with and supporting some of those groups as well because we were being frankly outmanned out woman on the other side Because they had a system that they it's a very interesting flub she makes there

51:23 She says out man, realizes oh my god I'm in the midst of lesbians this is not the thing. We were out womaned! That's exactly what went through her mind she was quick-witted enough to catch it and with the right beat so it was very... The transition was good It wasn't a choke but good I thought she did a good job Yeah but what she then winds up saying is we were out woman by the other side So wait a minute Republicans are now women? protection, campaign protection. So I've been working with and supporting some of those groups as well because we were being frankly outmanned, out-womaned on the other side because they had a system that they basically imposed. I'll give you one last thing cause I'm pretty concerned about this.

52:10 Republican candidates are told to spend 40% of their advertising budget on digital. Okay, this is very important because we always talk about this on this show the media is all in on the elections and On any election because it's their number one revenue moment in any cycle. They will never be any sort of reform because CBS, NBC, ABC in particular and Fox to the lesser extent all and all the local channels they make all their money pretty much it's almost like Christmas for them now what state does not get any money I don't know what state California

52:59 Oh, no. Yes California gets no money because everybody's gonna vote Democrats. Why bother advertising? Exactly! However what she just says is and I don't know if this is true that Republicans apparently have a mandate from the party that 40% of their advertising budget which is the money it's all though this where Bill Maher's million dollars is going into advertising budgets has to be spent on digital, which coincidentally is California. I find that just very interesting as a little aside most of it's in California So here is the message and you know what? Is the model the business model of Facebook and Twitter and Google is advertising She is saying something very important here to this community

53:45 Republican candidates are told to spend 40% of their advertising budget on digital. Makes sense, right? Democrats are not told that so on average Republicans are told to spend forty percent Democrats spend between zero and fifteen percent Now this is changing thanks to a lot of people like you who have been speaking out, working with campaigns. I am supporting Tech for Campaigns. Yeah that Tech for Campaigns we played a clip from that? That's the here's how you don't get your email stolen?

54:24 I always thought she was behind it, but now we know for sure. Which is a really important piece of this because that's what they found that you know there just wasn't an understanding or a commitment to using digital and so where you know where we were behind and We're playing catch-up But after the election once you know we catch our breaths And we're so happy that we were successful we've got to go to work on the next one The other side never quits and they have cadres of people who are focused on the next election. And we've got to do the same. So there's your message, Silicon Valley. Hillary is going to help you get paid! Work with me work with Hillary.

55:08 And the uh... It's kind of interesting. Yeah, I well i thought it was very clear message from that perspective the whole thing was boring. It's incredibly boring well so I have a I was only gonna play one more clip it's a little long it's about Serena Williams it was just so Lame that I feel we have to listen to it and and I do want to say that Serena Williams You know in short got dr. Point for something that John McEnroe got dr. Point 4 2 It's not like it didn't happen into men before is there a shell so got Dr Game which never really happened also yes, it did Yes, it did was a game at a match point from McEnroe Okay But I will totally say tennis is probably a bunch of male douchebags but

55:50 But you gotta take things a little bit in context, and I think they really went off the rails with this analysis of the double standard in tech which somehow comes to tennis. The double standard in tech when it comes to women. I think one of the things that we have to fix is that there's clearly a double standard for women. The more powerful you are, the more you are disliked. We just saw that... Oh! That doesn't happen to men at all Ever. No, people love the Kurdish CEO. Love powerful men. Yeah, the douchebag fucks yeah sure US Open Finals Sexism and racism there Oh and racism! It wasn't just sexism it's racism I bet you didn't read that in The New York Times did ya John?

56:33 Racism. It was racism because she's black that's why it happened and I just want to hear from you obviously you've experienced this a lot probably more than anyone in the world How are we gonna solve this? Oh, wait a minute. I gotta think about this because this is a lesbian tech conference What am I gonna say standard? Part of the challenge is for women to support women who challenge the double standard. The double standard is alive and well. It's alive and well! And, you know, oftentimes In my experience, there are a couple of reasons why women are put down or judged unfairly and harshly. One is because they pose a threat to the established order, they pose a threat inside a company or in politics or academia wherever they might find themselves and so the knee-jerk reaction is to put them down personally not necessarily professionally

57:36 Okay, so you mean stuff like orange Cheeto and is that is that what you're talking about? And so every woman has an interest in calling that out You know if you're gonna object to somebody's work then be specific But don't go into this like well. You know she's just not likable well She's talking about herself which is kind of creepy oh I have a list of about 10 million men who are not particularly likeable. Oh yes, there we go! We hate men! What is this? I find it embarrassing for the lesbian community that this is happening. So now that we're all cheering... It's pretty lame, it's pretty bad. Ten million men who we hate? But the knee-jerk

58:26 plays into all of these cultural stereotypes. And so people say, oh I don't know if I want to speak out because you know she can be kind of angry or she can be kind of pushy or whatever she might be but we've got to get over that We've got us support each other and we've gotta speak out for each other and then the second thing i would say is this whole question about women standing up for ourselves And you mentioned the US Open. I've watched tennis for decades, and I've seen a lot of men throw their rackets. I've seen them scream at the referees. I've seen them engage in all kinds of angry hurt disappointing behavior but everybody understood it was because they were such great competitors! They were in the moment that couldn't help it

59:16 Well, and along comes Serena who is standing up for herself and speaking out and being basically put down. And penalized. I think that it doesn't matter if you're out there by yourself and you're trying to do it You know your taking risks Yet the only way we're going to expose the double standard and hopefully eventually see it end is if we're willing to do that. And if we hope, and count on other women standing behind us so I'm gonna keep doing what I can but I hope everybody does the same. Fail. So I just thought like jeez go and alienate some more people men Yeah you wonder why she can't

1:00:13 When I think it's a lost opportunity if she had said right at the beginning of that interview Well, I have something to say and she'd come out. She could've run it. It was something she Could have run they were holding their hands together and looking up with all she could have run easily But no now she just pisses off a ten million man demand men Men. Men, damn men! Not denying that it's there but come on this is not how you solve it? You're just creating more division by literally saying I- There's 10 million men I don't like Yeah the yellow Cheeto This is not green This is not orange This is not kumraya This is not nice Then with that

1:01:01 I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. U-N-S-C stands for Kumbaya, in some spelling Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Minister Adam Curry also in the morning all ships to sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames and knights out there yes In the morning to our troll room at noagendastream.com good to have you here as per usual Especially my personal troll Nick the rat and more about him later on and also oh, that's no agenda stream calm We're live on Thursdays and Thursdays Just before this effort on Thursdays and Thursdays Also a big in the morning to Darren O'Neill. He brought us the artwork for episode 1068

1:01:43 And this was the fine toilet wine that The Keeper, The Curry and The Keeper had during our engagement dinner. It was a nice piece we liked that a lot I want to thank him for that. That is noagendaartgenerator.com where all of our artists upload their art usually before were even done Yes All right, well we do have a few people to thank including two instant nights. Our executive producers are both instant nights and we have one associate executive producer's short list but it is pretty spectacular. Wow! Yeah, instant night number one is Sir Julian.

1:02:20 He's a thousand, well he's not an incident. He's already a knight so that was a mistake. He's in Morgan Hill. He gave us some money the other day. Sir Julian again my better three quarters reminded me that I was indebted to John C Dvorak for the ant burning test in the last few years just to save this from frustration unnecessarily chemical treatments and pest control bills value for value now do you want Remind us of the... Yes, I will do the ant burning trick. I'll tell it again. We don't... Do we tell it every couple years? People don't seem to remember. So, I came up with this theory that there's a variety of ants that come when you're in the West Coast there are these things called Argentinian ants they all came out from Argentina and taken over the place All the other native ants have been wiped out by these guys And the thing that makes them interesting is that they are not hive specific

1:03:11 So, you can wipe out an Argentinian ant colony and a few stragglers will be out there. And they go into some other colony and they don't get killed like the other ants would do to their peers. They're not from us or our colony? No, not with these guys. Essentially California in particular is one giant anthill. Yes those aren't earthquakes your hearing or feeling it's just the ants. It's just the ants that are doing the damage. So I find that they have a very social animal and they have all these different ways of doing things. And once in awhile you start to see these

1:03:48 Out of the blue, there'll be a few ants roaming around. These are the scouts! You see these scout ants and you see one of them and then maybe another one or five. You don't see a lot of ants but you do see some looking around for some opportunity. You take those little lighters, scripto-lighters, and just scorch them dead with flame. You burn everyone that you can find and leave them there Other scout ants will show up, maybe. And if you see them and they're not carrying another ant out because usually what they do is they grab... Oh my God! There's one of our buddies who is dead. They grab him take him back to the nest. Do they eat him? No actually they use it for building material. Build a wall. Europeans used to do the same thing with human skulls but that's another story anyway so

1:04:37 If enough of these dead ants go back, they say we got to stay out there. There's like a big fire or something going on there and they don't come back and they never show up And that's how you get rid of ants. And he keeps killing these little guys if you see him as scouts now, if you see one carrying a dead ant that means he is taking them back to the hive... You don't kill him right? Don't kill him because he has got the message. He has got the message right and this is yes If you miss the timing on this you still can get in trouble but most of time it works The more you know In The Morning Just a bit I can help it

1:05:15 I got ants! I got ants. Alright, I'll have to play that end of show Thank you! That's great. The more you know. Thank You Sir Julian. He doesn't seem to want an upgrade or anything but okay he probably will when he gets the Baron if he's not already Scott Lovenberg in St. Paul Minnesota 1000 now this is a genuine instantite i believe yes it is uh... I once emailed you while back in my hometown of Pennsylvania a couple years ago, you mentioned it during the show. I'm sure that you've forgotten it with the volume and mail. It goes da-ba-bah. I'd like to say, I want to be knight or John, people say that but they never do it. Okay, I'm trying to get through the point he's trying to make. I fell overboard a couple years went by and made my way back and never forgot the promise I made to give you value for value. Yes, I said yeah people promise and they never deliver and he's making the point some people do.

1:06:15 As I think about value, I like to provide the younger listeners or just listeners lost on their path through life with my cliched advice in the hopes that it reaches and resonates with someone. I'd really also appreciate if both you would, after the donation segment impart some of the wisdom you have for younger listeners making their way as you both had an incredible journey to where you are now. Podcasting! Please re-evaluate your statement it's we have such an incredible journey to podcasters I'm sure we would all be better off for hearing your sincere thoughts on how to navigate the world. Okay, we'll give some advice sometime when we feel like it. Please do editorialize on this message and my message below as you see fit. Finally please call me Sir Software Dev aka Sir Code Monkey of the Twin Cities and do look up

1:07:15 Look me up if you're either in the Minnesota, Minneapolis St. Paul metro area or Waiting for a layover at MSP you'll come by no I appreciate what you do Well, thank you. Where's the device? What device well that thing says editorializes message That was the message well you editorialize the whole message You cut out the whole first part who it was the part that was good and Oh, okay. Well let's read the beginning then No it was just nice It was a nice message but what was the advice to the kids? He wants us to... What his advice to the kids I'm sorry His advice... I'm sorry Sir Code Monkey You butchered it! The whole thing I butchered it

1:08:03 Horrible. I want to thank Sir Software Dev, which is not his name yet but Scott will receive that title during the official knighting ceremony later on this program. Thank you very much for your courage it is highly appreciated and he will buy us a beer yes actually you know what they said the Minneapolis st.. Paul Airport They have one of the best brat shops Always that's in any airport. I've ever been to hmm It's from one of their sausage makers in the area they have a brat shop to make it very killer brat I'm gonna give him some karma you've got Karma Oh Well, well he'll be back mmm anyway sir Richard and all Berg Vermont are social executive producer $222 you need some house selling karma no jingles oh

1:08:55 You've got karma He's got the new little monikers and JJK no jingles just nice nice nice. Nice, okay Okay what that's it? Oh oh my goodness okay well Thank you very much to our two executive producers and our loan Associate executive producer it is highly appreciated as we're out on the road for you and continue to bring you our program It's a really your program the best podcast in the universe And we'll be thanking more people in our second segment $50 and above looking forward to that as well We got lots of stuff to talk about and remember us for our next show on Thursday I think we're no longer twice a week. We're just on Thursdays pass it on

1:09:46 Our formula is this, we go out. We hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up slaves! So I think we should take Scott's advice and give a little bit of advice right now to the youngsters out there who are trying to make their way to podcasting Well, it's not just podcasting. Through a long route. That's not what he said! He said give them some advice for their path in the future. So that you don't get killed or end up in dimension A or B Or too far in any dimension for that matter Well here I got my piece of advice Alright I've given this advice before and I'm going to give it again Most people who will supervise you throughout your careers are full of crap

1:10:43 And that's the advice. The more you know, and they tend to uh, they can be played a and I don't like to say that you want to play people but they can be played by just going along with whatever they have to say do not be argumentative. And I'll give two examples. I'll give one example of good one. Uh, why should I give it? I'll give him a number. I could generalize somebody else say hey, Hey, I don't like the way you're doing this and you're doing it whatever way you're doing it. And instead of saying, well I'm doing for this reason or that reason or whatever, you say oh okay what do you want me to do? What do you think I should be better at? Well I'm all ears. Be very attentive and then they'll tell ya the way they wantcha to do something

1:11:30 And then just keep doing it the way you were doing it because that's the way you do things. Don't pay any attention to their advice and within, I don't know a few months they'll come back to you and say well so how is that new way of doing things? You say its great! You were right! The guy will say yep I've noticed that you've changed your much better than you were. That happens all the time because everybody thinks they're so important. Interesting That's not the kind of advice I give. I give different advice because I get the same advice, is that the same advice you hand out to young people all the time? No, I have a lot of different advices but that one particular piece of advice which is these supervisors are full of crap and just go along with the program don't argue! That's my advice. Stay in line

1:12:22 But keep doing things the way you're doing them. They're not gonna notice when they don't know what they're talking about Well, I guess my advice is kind of dovetails into that where my advice is always the same Find out what you really like doing What'd you really like doing just there's something you like doing it You could be skateboarding for all I care find something you really really no Not like well, you really love doing and then find someone to pay you to do it That's it. That's the secret to life. Of course, that is the ideal advice for everybody but many times... Bullcrap! Anybody can do that anybody can do it. Yeah anybody could do that. You have a place in life. What if you get a job tomorrow and you have to go work at Taco Bell what are you gonna do? Screw you Taco Bell?! Well that's part of finding someone to pay you to do it part yeah well maybe we could do that from the taco back end try again on front counter It has taken me 54 years to finally be able to podcast don't knock it

1:13:17 I've been my whole life before podcasting was invented. I've been wanting to podcast yeah, I don't know what it is but it's just the back of my head It's just a word podcasting when I'll drop it in up drop like a bomb when it happens and you invented the word Podcasting no I did not I did not I did not invent the word podcasting who did Danny Gregoire Is the one who I credit it too? He is the one who I first heard it from but then there's that Guardian journalist Who did use the term podcast, not podcasting but podcasts several years maybe a year earlier when the iPod came out. But that was before there was any podcasting. So he precognated? Yes yes He had it before it existed and therefore he claims he coined the term which I guess he did technically Ben...Ben Garsley what's his name? Well yeah I would say that he is coining the term What's the guy's name again

1:14:19 Forgotten to history apparently should have become a podcaster. Right? All right, well then I'd give another piece of advice. Oh gee yeah tail finning into your advice okay I don't know what tail fin is. I like this tail finning is not necessarily good but okay. Tail finning do a lot of different things until you find something you like and if you like a lot of things do them all! Yeah yeah I agree with that too And then ultimately do a podcast about your life, and then you'll be fine. Yeah podcasting is the real podcast that is everyone's goal should be podcast I have to say noticing this no like there's a I have a There's an article that I put into the In the show notes it's about Teague Hanley Teague Hanley is uh someone sent me this this is a

1:15:12 They market beauty products, I think a lot of them for men. And they claim to now spend 40% of their entire marketing budget on quote influencers who are on Instagram and YouTube. Yeah this is a big deal! But i gotta say that when we first started Podshow before it became Mevio before became Dead That was the idea. The idea was to have endorsements by the talent themselves and that advertising would change the way people conveyed their message

1:15:48 And it failed quite spectacularly over a 10 year period. It really failed very well and you know so whereas, I still believe you can't monetize the network but what we're seeing here is the marketing money is going to move away from display and we're talking online, display and clicks etc. It's truly going to move towards this and I can only say this because i'm from the future sometimes it takes me 20 years to get right but it is going to happen in of course what will happen everybody who talked about this on just last show is YouTube and Instagram are all gonna wake up and go yeah I don't think so you want our money your taking our money we want our money and its gonna suck all over again

1:16:33 Build your own thing like we did. Build your own thing, be smart about it and even when you build your own thing 99% of you will have nothing because it doesn't work without the exposure of the algos in Instagram and YouTube Doesn't work so make sure you're one of the 1%, but that's where its going Yeah, I think Kanye West would be like a great spokesperson for the Republican Party. Right now he's doing it for free! He should be getting paid! In fact there was a number of Scott Adams' girlfriend

1:17:15 I don't know how much money she makes, but she's on Instagram and she...I don't remember her name. But she's on Instagram. Christina! It's Christina. I know that because of the name. And she holds up a pair of shoes. She is very photogenic So you want us to look at pictures of her. And so she holds up a shoe or she holds up, I don't know what she holds up but she's got some sort of eye makeup or something and she holds it up... She really does that! First of all first of all she does this in skimpy clothing bikinis underwear which... Yeah that's why i said she's photogenic Oh sorry I misunderstood you yeah God sorry missed the code Yeah? So what about her

1:18:01 She makes money doing this, so it's just like that you know somebody within one degree of somebody who makes a lot of money is doing this kind of crazy promotion. There are ad agencies that hire people like her and others that have millions of followers on these different networks My own daughter makes money that way Yeah your daughter she does it too Well there's a message to you Scott Adams, she doesn't need you for your money Scott Adams should be the guy doing this. He should go to an ad agency and start just casually... Excuse me? That's all he does! What are you talking about?! Buy Toyota! John, that's all he does have you ever heard him promote his app when what where hub now dot IO yeah but that's not no but that's his own thing yeah I know but I like Toyota that's for the money he doesn't care

1:19:00 Well, I do. I think we should be promoting Toyota. Yeah, where's our money? Fine. Never. You don't want a piece of it! No, I do not want a piece of it. So I went through all the trouble...I lost the clip of Jimmy Fallon and The Lodestar. Oh what?! I'm looking and looking online to try to find it. I don't find it, I find a simultaneous making it even look more like a hit job of Jimmy Kimmel doing the same exact gag! What? Yeah, here's Kimmel lodestar. Here's a lot of speculation now about who wrote this and this to me is the most interesting theory yet somebody online noticed an unusual word in The op-ed the word was lodestar They wrote we may no longer have Senator McCain But we will always have his example a lodestar for restoring honor to public life Which is that's not a common word lodestar Not a lot of people use that work but you know it does use that word I

1:20:01 This guy. It really was the Lodestar and that's going to continue to be a lodestar JacksLodestar as our lodestar You are a lodestar Lodestar That's right Vice President Michael Elizabeth Pence uses the word lodestar like it's actually Wouldn't that be something if it was Mike Pence? Trump just announced that the Space Force's first mission is to locate and destroy The Lodestar, whatever that may mean Wow, so they didn't even that's pretty brazen. It's almost exactly the same clip package Huh? So somebody is out there I'm thinking Lear. I don't know who it is whoever's behind you memo Is trying to set up pants and unless hold on unless Fallon says something about Kimmel taking his bit because you know if that had happened to us I would have said it

1:20:57 Well, Fallon's bit was better. Fallon had other clips of other stuff that Pence said that matched the memo. Kim focused on Lodestar only which makes me think it was a package given to these guys by some outside source and Fallon's people said you know we like to use this but we gotta add our own thing so they added more to it. They talk really nasally don't they those people over at Fallon? They do! Then, to add a little...to kind of do some pile jumping listen to Kimmel the next day. I can't actually even bet on who wrote the op-ed this is for real The favorite is Mike Pence It's not a joke then Betsy DeVos you see Mike Pompeo goes down Stephen Miller all the way at 15 and 1 which was good for him He finds a betting line that's online and the betting line shows that Pence is the favorite

1:21:57 Okay, yes Do you have to pay the money when you make these bets and how long do they get to sit on the money? Just forever. I have no idea what the deal is. Yeah, I don't know. I've never done that online gambling It seems risky. I don't it looks like pants being set up Oh, yeah, I think it's probably if you think about it, it's got to be a hero to make him a hero No, no you don't know. You want to make him a goat within the administration so it causes more disruptions and makes him take because he may never you know He's he may really liked you who knows what his attitude is toward Trump? He's not the kind of guy that seems like a Creep that would go and write this crazy. Of course not for one thing. He's the vice president What does he do why would he even bother I?

1:22:45 Yeah, so he wouldn't but I think they're trying to create discord. It's really creepy what is going on this is a you know really creepy what these people are doing. I'm not sure why but it feels like this would fit into it we got a note from an anonymous producer and he says I just hired someone who has worked and has lived in New York City for decades with a ton of celebrities He's been around Trump and his people for years We were chatting about the slur words today And he unequivocally, unequivocally confirmed the original no agenda theory that Trump has dentures and that he is very sensitive about it. He pushes them up constantly but occasionally they fall and he does not take kindly to anyone mentioning it

1:23:33 So, I don't know. I mean...I have no way to check this. I like that better because it sounds like if you've donated people with dentures it sounds like somebody's dentures are just dropped. Yes! Yeah, he's got to use better glue. But then somehow we had that as our original idea and then it went to the propitious you know when I took it to Propecia That was another producer so I still don't know what's going on yeah We don't know but no matter what because it sounds like clunk You know who always needs them to fall out? But he still does not have pronounced anonymous That part that party can fix um It causes a vacuum sucks the dentures out die

1:24:17 All right, what else you got going on? Well I do have a cut. Did I get this series of clips from the last show? This is a terrible story apparently Brad Pitt after the Hurricane Katrina hit the ninth ward he started a foundation that would help people rebuild and so... Yes they had there it was didn't have the formaldehyde houses No, his houses are mold. Is that what's going on with them? The formaldehyde homes were done by I think FEMA trailers. Those are trailers these are actually architected houses that are beautiful. Very beautiful yes i've seen them except after about five years the wood starts falling off they're poorly made and they're filled with mold and people had to leave him after a year and they were charging him money for it

1:25:10 This is a hair raising story, and I think this is another example some Hollywood guy getting in over his head play. I'm sorry played one Look at this part starting to come apart that wasn't there like the music Decidedness starting to crack here you can actually see Look, this is supposed to be a seven-year old home. Stop asking me you know hey what's going on with your Brad Pitt home? How do you like it all that so it must be so cool to live in a Brad Pitt home and In my mind I'm like It's not, its awful, I hate it This has been years of ongoing lies and broken promises

1:25:54 You know, at first I followed a little bit of the story although i certainly haven't tracked it for a couple years and I liked his whole idea. He has or had a house there when he was still with Angelina and he really wanted to do something. I thought he was doing something rather interesting uh... It's too bad that this apparently is not working out Yeah, I'd say not working out is the mild way of putting it. Now this was a special on NBC, which is you know NBC Universal. You know I mean we're dealing with Hollywood and I don't know who...

1:26:33 I don't know why the unwritten rule wasn't applied and Brad Pitt was off limits or if he didn't want to do a movie. I don't know, but i get the sense that this is this is a bad situation but it would normally have not been played up by the three major networks which are all three of them associated with major Hollywood studios and are very reluctant to go after their actors yes indeed So let's play two. It's been 13 years since Hurricane Katrina ravaged parts of New Orleans, but for some residents of the Lower Ninth Ward—the area hardest hit by the storm—recovery never came.

1:27:10 Everything I ever owned, I lost in Hurricane Katrina. All of my childhood memories, all of my pictures, toys, my clothes... Just coming back, I cried from my community and myself. I could not wait to get back into this neighborhood When I first came back to the city, I had no thoughts about moving back to the 9th Ward but I really wanted to come back to the city So when Make It Right came with me with an opportunity to move back I was so excited about that thought. In 2006, Make It Right a non-profit founded by actor Brad Pitt announced plans to build green affordable homes in the lower ninth ward 150 homes is our goal to begin with Pitt raised millions of dollars solicited designs from famous architects and brought attention to a community in need

1:28:00 But Make It Right's homes were not free. Kamaria Allen bought her home in 2011 for $130,000. She says problems began almost immediately. put that key in my door the first time and I did a happy dance for like five minutes. I was so excited by October 20th, I began to notice major issue. My outlets in my kitchen area were corroded and rusted at Waterleaks I had holes outside of my home. I did notice that my allergies had gotten a lot worse The foundation is cracking, it's falling apart There is a big water leak right here and it was causing a lot of moisture to go into the home At one point Kamaria noticed mushrooms growing on the side her house and took photos to document the problem She began having headaches and felt tired all the time Symptoms reflected in a doctor's note she shared with NBC News

1:28:58 Camaria says Make It Right addressed minor repairs like adding tile, but wasn't responsive on bigger problems like mold. She moved out less than a year later and in with her parents who also owned a Make It Right house where again she said she encountered the same mold and water damage issues Wow! Well first of all mold is really bad I know because that have the allergy And it can really affect you. And this is when, and when you got mold in your house I mean this can really make you very sick. Well I guess between the walls exterior and interior walls and it just takes over the place and it sends spores out all day and night. Yeah, and you've got the mushrooms. It's really holes and mushrooms growing on the thing. Now come on! This report comes of course amidst a expected crisis so I guess that's part of why it aired? They may have had this on the shelf for awhile, this particular report

1:29:50 And the other thing that's going on is you know there is a there is quite a rift between Brad and Angelina and maybe eyes on Angelina what kind of power she's got because I agree this is not A typical thing for all three networks to go against a Hollywood superstar no very unusual so let's wrap it with number three throughout the years. I have called make it right on their cell phones I've emailed making right them many times to please just hear us out or, you know, to solve our issues. And they would make promises. They made promises. So we're going to give you a call back or we're going to stop by your house. We're going to make a meeting. We're going to set a meeting for you and your parents and everything has

1:30:38 has not taken place. Nothing's taking place." Make It Right did pay Kamaria a cash settlement, reimbursing her for the down payment and a year of the mortgage on her old house. Kamaria says she can't afford to move again and Make it Right has stopped returning their calls about her parents' home. It's been years since I've seen any type of progress from Make it Right. Any...it's been year since I had any kind of contact with Make it Right While Make It Right has worked with some homeowners on repairs or relocation, many residents say the organization has not been responsive. Kamari signed a non-disclosure agreement as part of her settlement with Make It Right but has decided to break it.

1:31:18 I was afraid to speak because of my non-disclosure agreement, but at this point i feel like it's my duty to speak out. Oh sure! I feel like I have to speak out to get the word out about Brad Pitt's organization to let people know that we're suffering down here. Make and Write's mission was an experiment in high quality at low cost And while the houses may have been stylish, some were not designed with Louisiana's climate in mind. According to community activists in the Lower Ninth, Make It Right has replaced the flat roofs on 18 of their homes with slanted ones. So they've replaced a few flat tops these are flat top houses which of course don't work everywhere and

1:32:03 Louisiana is a humid, kind of musty place that needs a certain kind of... You have to know what you're doing. I don't know what the problem was here but it was a disaster and I think what I got out of it though was this, I signed in non-disclosure and this is black probably woman middle class, lower middle class upper middle class she's in the middle class somewhere and she says screw this! By the way I'm saying this because I think there's gonna be a trend A lot of people are cowed by the nondisclosure, many of which are illegal especially in California. Most nondisclosures don't hold water and you can go with the assumption that I am a

1:32:46 A black woman has been screwed over by this Make It Right organization, which won't even return my calls. And now I'm talking about it and they're suing me because I violated a non-disclosure and the only reason for the non-disclosure is to keep you from knowing the truth! And the media loves it. The media loves it and I will say... It's a non-disclosure violation up! I will say this really started with Stormy Daniels, she started the most recent screw the nondisclosure I'm going all in Yeah. And I happen to have... If nothing else, we can maybe thank Stormy Daniels at some point in the future for making these non-disclosures null and void as they should be. You remember on the maybe two shows ago? I played this clip it was Stormy... Maybe it was last show. Stormy Daniels on a Dutch television show with Twan talking about something she might have on Trump Is there something you know now

1:33:48 which we will know soon that could bring down this presidency. I say that we have a yes there's stuff that i know and i would say it's 50-50 shot at this point, which is pretty scary odds if you're the president. And I think I know what it was not just giving to do with his hand size no No, Tucker Carlson had Michael Avenatti on the show and of course Carlson has been calling him a creepy porn lawyer for a long time. And I have to say he had him on the show then they had the lower third creepy porn lawyer talks that Tucker and at certain point they just abbreviated it to CPL which in my world means commercial pilots license but okay CPL

1:34:37 I thought that was really rude. The guy comes on, he knows it's going to be a fight. I thought it was incredibly rude! You did or did not? I did too... Yeah, I thought it was rude. There is no reason to do that. No, It was just lame. But I will say this-it was very funny. It was funny and consistent but still yeah, it was rude BUT Not once, but twice did Avenatti say something that I think is going to come back. Why is it that you don't call Donald Trump the creepy porn president? He's the one that had sex with a four-month old son at home, with my client without a condom.

1:35:27 Without a condom now. Why would he say that and why would he bring it up again? I'm right with you, I know exactly where you're going Because she wants to Tucker This is America this is America And guess what if a woman wants to perform in the strip club she does so even though Richie's no people are not getting rich even though people like her Even though people like you demean hers me all hurt You're the one who's partying. You're the one that refers to her consistently as a porn star and is, to me, is a creepy porn lawyer and meanwhile you give the president... Meanwhile I give the president of past unprotected sex with the porn star with a four-month old son at home Uh huh so that's his message what was your takeaway from it? Four months olds old son is Trump's That's taking it further than I thought

1:36:23 I was thinking that he paid for her to have an abortion. She's got the witness said four-month old son at home? No, no that's he had barren the four month old son at home Oh okay then it would be an abortion That's what i'm thinking that's why it was 150 grand And she may and she may And that's gonna like hurt him with the Christian right It would hurt him on a lot of issues That's probably why they stuck the word amoral, the real problem with him. Yes. See somebody knows this is going on. So in the White House and that New York Times editorial that one word that stook out was amoral.

1:37:08 was the word amoral and that was kind of the conclusion. The problem with this guy is not that he's unhinged, and he's a cheeto. The problem is he's amoral and that's what's pointing right at that little- And hypocrite! Well, he never really has been a pro life, pro choice one or the other guy I remember. But in the mind of Dimension B He's he's you know Roe v. Wade is on the chopping block or just row Yes, yes, yes, yes our friend yes that he had unprotected sex with and of course we don't call an abortion We call it a female reproductive health care

1:38:02 I just want to get my terms right. Sounds good, but they're gonna have to start wrapping this little... They gotta hurry up! This tragic play they gotta wrap up the Shakespearean drama a little bit you know in the next few months because they're coming back at him i think the Republicans are Making a push to get hey, that's got the vote because you're gonna be screwed if these Democrats are all bunch of socialists get in office Here's the latest in the saga Which we've all probably heard about tonight The mysterious new twist about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh comes from top Democrat Dianne Feinstein Feinstein revealing little saying she has quote received information from an individual concerning Kavanaugh that individual feinstein says strongly requested confidentiality declined to come forward or press the matter further and I have honored that decision

1:38:51 Now referring it to federal investigative authorities. The FBI tonight confirming they've included the information in Kavanaugh's background file. The court in Heller, the Supreme Court upheld... I don't mean- let me interrupt you because... Feinstein's move comes after Democrats attacked Kavanaugh and contentious hearings and just just one week before the Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote on his nomination. The White House questioning Feinstein's timing, not until the eve of Kavanaugh's confirmation has Senator Feinstein or anyone raised the specter of new information about him blasting it as an 11th hour attempt to delay Kavanaugh's confirmation Republican senator John Cornyn skeptical this is a statement about a secret letter regarding a secret matter and unidentified person

1:39:35 Right. Republicans say Feinstein's move will not delay next week's vote." I found this to be disturbing Well, i don't know why you'd find it to be disturbing because this is part of your original blueprint for Kavanaugh Oh that he has to get kicked out? Yeah That he can't make it through But I didn't expect this to happen I mean, this is really low. Someone who's anonymous with no proof of documentation and then Feinstein gives it to investigators? What are we doing? And Feinstein is...I hate to say this because I'm not an ageist necessarily but she's a very old woman who is very susceptible to being bullshitted. I remember working with her when the board members at the air pollution district have told the story before. Feinstein?!

1:40:31 Yeah. Oh, okay I thought you only knew the other one who always wanted to have sex with everybody? No no Boxers, they were both on the board of advisors that ran the air pollution district but Feinstein was the other one and you've heard this story before you'll remember why so… I never get enough of it! So we had all the documents that you'd use were in a document room where they also had the dispatchers there women were dispatching in their cars or radio controller driving around And all these documents, you want to get a file on some company. You had to go in there and get these files out and you just walk in and grab some files and walk out. It was getting to the point where people were just wandering in and out and flirting with the dispatchers and giving them a hard time and then grabbing files and leaving him all over the office it was a nightmare!

1:41:25 So somebody decided that this is out. You have to, because what the problem was was this back door that was open that people would just wander in and you had to go through their front door but they had to leave the back door and keep the place cool or the women would be like sweating to death in there so they put a chain across the door. You can't go in if you want to get files go around the front and check them out the way your supposed too instead of just wandering in Feinstein's making an inspection of the office for some unknown reason and she sees the chain and goes, ape shit. Why do you chain these women into this room? There should be no chain here! These women... What do you think of them?" And she makes a big scene

1:42:14 So they had to take the chain off the damn door, which opens it up again for the people who steal the files. And so instead of the chain blocking the door and letting some air get through there, they put a door up and locked it in. Now the women are in this stuffy room. Thank you Dianne Feinstein for helping the women." How old was she then? Well this was probably... 30-40 years ago or 40-50 years ago. Oh my goodness! And she would just see things and she'd misinterpret. She was not that bright ever I mean the fact that she got railroaded when she was heading, heading the Senate Intelligence Committee and she was trying to get that torture report out and they wouldn't let her...they were spying on her and everybody else and she didn't go ape shit then is beyond me! And she's just gets pushed around. I think some she's I think she's susceptible to being you know

1:43:14 pushed into some direction that's not wise. I don't think she was that bright, let's put it that way. There you have it straight from the horse's mouth this is boots on the ground and since we're here... That's just one lone story but if you get the impression she was this way I think you know she wasn't a she was just a city councilwoman that somehow catapulted her away to the Senate who's very strange well since were here and I don't want to wait another year or two just tell me a quick version of The Boxer story please Barbara Boxer was notorious when they had these meetings, they would have advisory board meetings and sometimes air pollution inspectors would be around the office.

1:43:53 And she would always try to bum a ride home. I didn't ever happen to me, I don't know if this story is even true just as disclaimer. But one guy says hey don't be around the office after these advisory board meetings because Boxer's on the prowl She'll roam around and she'll say hey you got a car can you drive me home? Because we all had cars And so she talked some poor schlub into driving her home to Marin County where she was from. And then she'd make a patent trying to get the guy to go to bed with her! And you always dodged that bullet, I'm so proud of you

1:44:30 Yes, well very good. I worked in the East Bay so which I was very rare I was rarely in the city I'd try to stay out of there I mean uh I'm in the EU's well not in the EU actually Switzerland is not in the easy you a very pretty money and hadn't seen The Swiss francs for a while very pretty just nice bills plastic yet No, not plastic not not the ones I got So I do have some, but i do have some European based stories. Some EU stories and I'd like to start with a quickie on Brexit that just broke this morning Sadiq Khan the mayor of London who has now apparently some ideas about brexit Unfortunately we're at position now where the government's embarking on negotiations that could lead to one or two things either a bad deal

1:45:20 And that includes the possibility of us leaving the EU without knowing the future relationship with the European Union or no deal. Both those options would be deeply damaging to London and the country, so what I'm saying is for the first time the British public should have a say on the outcome of those negotiations including the option of staying in the EU. We are so from the future. I've been hanging in there with that for yeah, it's good very troubling story from Norway a guy I know Aryan Kompos who is a investigative reporter from the Netherlands Does a lot of work for WikiLeaks he has been missing for several weeks? He went to Norway and

1:46:10 People weren't quite sure if he was just going there to kayak or what he was doing, but all of a sudden I've heard about this. He's gone and they did find and this is a Ancilla you know Ancilla She knows him very, very well. And she's really making a plea on... Yeah and she is going on TV in Holland and everything trying to get some information Here is the latest from the Norwegian police It kind of soft spoken but you can at least get an idea where they are thinking and what they're at We are working out three main hypotheses The first one is that he may have been in an accident. The second one is that he, out of his own choosing and free will has decided to stay hidden And the third hypothesis is that he has been the victim of some form of a criminal offence So far we haven't found anything new The first items were found floating in the sea close to land

1:47:13 They were picked up by a local recreational fisherman. The kayak was found by the police later that night, we haven't received any tips specifically or directly related to the kayak We have chosen not to at this time release to the public which items were found Ask for assistance from the Coast Guard to conduct a search this weekend. The Coast Guard has experience in various searches at sea, they have knowledge and skills that we are hoping to benefit from." There you go so they don't know if it was foul play if he wants to be hidden or for some horrible accident

1:48:04 Anyway, it's concerning to all involved. Yeah well if you didn't wish I said the last season of Berlin Station... I still have never seen that yeah what happened? Two of the guys go into Norway or Sweden some middle-of-nowhere place and there's assassins everywhere! Well don't take any rides in foldable kayaks then we'll add that to the list Hopefully he'll turn up, but it's been a while. Staying in the region we got a very thoughtful note from some boots on the ground from Richard from Sweden who appreciated us talking about his country which was in the context of the podcast by Jens and Aaron

1:48:49 who I think were kind of surprised about all the attention they got. You know, these guys have only a couple thousand Twitter followers and all of a sudden boom there's all kinds of people talking about them and I even saw you! There was someone bitching and moaning about the Carb-A-Q numbers and you were pushing back which i thought was nice On the tweeters? Well, all I did was ask him if he was in Sweden. And he said no! Then I said well why am I going to listen to you? You're not in Sweden and now when I hear somebody from Sweden telling me what's going on... Not some guy outside of the country just taking pot shots it doesn't... I looked at the statistics and the statistics indicate otherwise That's kind of what was said yeah

1:49:31 But anyway, Richard I do want to share some of his note. Did you have a chance to read it? I think you were on the copy. Should I just read a little bit of this because I thought it was something that's very interesting. It's good note Thank you for giving my little part-of-the world some attention some points on the election and political parties Firstly, the Sweden Democrats are by no means a far-right party. They want large government high taxes welfare etc They're close to the they're very close to the Social Democrats except for one point immigration They are socialists that just go against all the rest of the parties who claim there's no such thing as Swedish culture Swedish people ethnicity Etc at least noting worth preserving or acknowledging and then I wanted to talk about what he felt about his country and

1:50:15 I'll go down here a little bit. He says you're regrettably correct when naming Sweden a shithole country, and I don't know if we actually said it that way but okay We have no idea which is it might be a shit hole. You did I did Okay Shit Hole Sweden people are effing retarded apparently and seem to have forgotten about the incredible undemocratic things that took place after the 2014 election And of course happily voted for the same old parties And then he goes through some, this is all in the show notes by the way I put him in there anonymously. Meanwhile we see our high trust society crumble before us the beautiful culture and harsh landscape and climate that has been tamed by our forefathers This guy who loves his country you can really tell

1:50:57 attained by our forefathers over generations and generations into something that the best of seasons can support a moderate population is now being given away to people from completely incompatible cultures. As it stands right now, it is anyone's guess as to who will form the new government." He even talks about a new December Overeinkommensstelle to shut out a party that got over 70% of the vote and then he goes into talking a little bit about what he misses or actually this is interesting The benefits that you get as a refugee in Sweden, and I guess apparently there's about 20% of the population. Of the 10 million there now is immigrant and slash refugee

1:51:36 He says the benefits you get as a quote refugee are simply outrageous. Even illegal immigrants who have had their case for asylum dismissed and should be deported according to the law, are still eligible to free health care which of course you and I assume Sweden's got free healthcare for everybody it's all groovy well turns out not so they get better health care than us natives and legal immigrants do example A visit to the dentist cost an asylum seeker 50 kroner, about five and a half dollars. While we regular folk have to pay the full price of about $100 for checkup and then thousands of dollars if you're unlucky enough to have a real issue as it's not apart of the rest of the healthcare system I thought that was interesting they don't do dental in Sweden what the hell is wrong with you?

1:52:22 Explain how that makes any sense, he says. Also if you're in need of medical care you'd think it stand to reason that the medical care is provided in Swedish especially as immigrants are getting paid to learn Swedish but no a non-Swedish speaker can request free of charge interpreter at any contact with within the healthcare system so we as a country are basically bribing people from faraway lands to move to this beautiful but harsh land and they're given so much leeway its ridiculous We now have mosques blasting Islamic prayers at 110 decibels in what was just a decade ago, a normal Swedish town. The propaganda is also beyond belief the immigration wave has been touted as a profit-making operation it is needed to save our pensions and to keep our high living standards again please explain to me how importing hundreds of thousands of people from completely different cultures who have no interest in being assimilated or integrated into our culture

1:53:16 and most of which likely will never be a net positive for our society, how this works for us. This has of course been debunked not that it was necessary any person with half a mind could figure it out gang shootings with deadly outcomes on a more or less weekly basis now we have waves of car bqueues gang rape has dramatically increased there's general unrest and of course we all know what is really going on And then he gets really sad about how Volvo suck they're no good anymore They don't even have a temperature gauge or dipstick. You know, we used to make jets now we don't make anything anymore." And he feels that his country's going down the tubes! Well probably is But you never hear that and also the journalists there they all have some kind of support from the government did you read that in this note? Yeah That doesn't sound very smart

1:54:08 Well, it is if you want to keep people toeing the line. It's very smart Yeah I think it's a very good idea If you want to keep people toe in the line, but I think that's what we do when he talked about Operation Mockingbird That's support from the government. I gotta tell you Bob Wodeward sounds like he is part of mocking bird You think? I cut this little piece This was an interview on the BBC And the whole thing was eight minutes. I got it down to about a minute and a half, and all he's talking about continuously with Trump which i guess...I haven't read the book is about national security, national security. The country's going to be... we're national security." It's totally some kind of mockingbird talking point just listen to it. You say it has never happened before? Not to my knowledge people have thwarted presidents before but actually taking the document there is this kind of renegade movement as Gary Cohen told an associate you have to protect

1:55:06 the country. And it's a movement that is working, isn't it? Which also speaks to the chaos because if Donald Trump wanted to do something and was prevented doing that thing you'd think he would come back to it next day or week and get it done Well in some cases he did It is a back-and-forth People at the White House told me they spend a third of their time stopping things that are dangerous or really not consistent with a policy to protect the United States and national security. Now that the book is out, he clearly has changed his mind but again there is this disorganization, this lack of focus of not understanding how he has to protect the national security.

1:55:56 The Secretary of Defense Mattis, early this year in a National Security Council meeting when Trump kept asking about why are we paying all this money for forward deployed troops 28 thousand South Korea, all of the troops in NATO which he wonders you know why are we protecting Europe? Why aren't they paying for this. The Secretary of Defense has to tell him because were trying to prevent World War 3 Now think about that for a moment, that the Secretary of Defence has to remind the President of the United States that we're trying to prevent World War III. But what's their aim Bob? Did you get the impression they are just hanging on for dear life or there is an end to this? It's very disconcerting to people There is not a clear path to resolving it This is not what you do in normal

1:56:55 I'm sorry normal is not the word a necessary Engaged effort to protect the country Think his point is clear Yeah, I guess Protect the country Trump is danger to the country that was his whole mission. I guess well He's been through emphasis on World War three hmm yes there's that The UK, this I had to get from RT. There was a European court decision about the United Kingdom, Gitmo Nation East's mass surveillance practices who they target to surveil and of course you know they have all our technology that is part of the five eyes so it's all one big brother looking at you Happy family

1:57:49 So not only who they're surveilling, but how they're surveilling. And I thought the information was interesting because you don't hear...I didn't see any of this. I did look for the networks, the US networks and I didn't see anything on Sky or BBC but this was a pretty big deal i think. Journalists and civil rights groups scored a victory today against the British government's mass surveillance system Europe's top rights court calling the so-called Big Brother program unlawful and a violation of human rights. We have won a landmark judgment today at the European Court confirming that the mass surveillance practiced by the UK government as revealed by Edward Snowden is unlawful and we have argued this consistently over the past five years. And it's a really important victory for people's rights in the UK I declare open the public hearing on the admissibility and merits in the case of Big Brother Watch & Others

1:58:49 versus the United Kingdom. The judges ruled 5-2 that mass interception of phone and internet data violated article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights which guarantees the right to privacy thanks to inadequate safeguards Specifically as regards article eight they found that there was a lack of safeguards and oversight when it came to selecting the traffic for examination, and these subsequent going through that information. In a further victory, the court ruled that the program also provided insufficient safeguards in respect of confidential journalistic material violating Article 10 of the European Convention which protects freedom of expression and information As regards to article ten it found there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data that had been found by the authorities

1:59:41 as regards to the journalistic confidentiality. The court said in a statement while the court was satisfied that the intelligence services of the United Kingdom take their European Human Rights Convention obligations seriously and are not abusing their powers, it found that there was an adequate independent oversight of this election and search processes involved in the operation I think its interesting It is interesting but severely under reported I mean to break two articles of the European deal, we can't forget which laws it is. For human rights it's probably the protocols for human rights 8 and 10 that's a pretty big deal but no one's up in arms about it that I can see

2:00:31 Hmm. Well, no one's up in arms about anything except Trump causing this hurricane somehow Ah final thing which is just fun for us because we pay attention to these kinds of things The EU Parliament has their own kind of television station not really I think it's on some cable networks but you can certainly watch it online under the EU Parliament channel and Junker the drunkard Jean-Claude Juncker did his annual speech kind of the State of the Union, state of the Starfleet and for some reason which may be evident based upon this clip Which there's a link in the show notes nashownotes.com so you can go take a look at it He was wearing the exact same outfit as last year same tie same suit Same shirt

2:01:21 Which is like, okay maybe it's his lucky outfit. And you have to see this on video but it works in audio as well he does his speech and there's first of all there's not a lot of people there There's not a lot of people in the big Starfleet command audience so there's a tepid response just clap-clap-clap-clap-clap But then EU Parliament television just mixes in what looks like last year's speech and all of a sudden they cut to the, you know, to the parliamentary members and there's a whole bunch more them standing ovation. The audio goes up about 50 DB. Yeah listen to it. Listen. Merci. D'avoir parlé. Écoutez. Clap clap clap. Now listen... So this is kind of like okay okay now why they kept it in this? This is unedited as I'm playing for you

2:02:20 It's kind of dying down a little bit and hey we need to make this look successful. Bring it on! Start the old tape! What? And now, big standing ovation there is a lot more people there They just mixed in last years tape That is disgusting and also humorous and laughable amateurish It's like this is your future. They didn't even do it right! Yeah, they don't need to! Exactly What's the point of doing it right? Let's just do a cheap-ass job and people are like yeah I saw it...it was they gave him a standing ovation. You're lying to me. I saw that we were giving him a standing ovation you what you saw his bullcrap exactly. Idiocracy

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2:15:31 A-S-H-O-O-H. Yes, exactly and she has shut down I think a couple of different subreddits But one of the important ones was the Q Subreddit where a lot of people hung out They took care of Q apparently. Yeah you knew it happened. Well we don't have my cue glasses with me We don't want to put them on. They're not fitted right." Now this is the Great Awakening subreddit and it's shut down, it's gone... As well should be! I do have a clip of this person who is actually let's listen first to one of the Redditers. Wasn't she in the Clinton administration? Yeah, interesting you say that she actually has been working for The Atlantic Council

2:16:25 Most recent no wonder they shut it down. Of course Here's a little bit of her talking before I guess before she was director of policy at reddit talking about Syria and what we should be doing over there So a no-fly zone would be a great thing and in my opinion would probably be one of the only ways that you can get humanitarian assistance into the besieged areas in Syria. But that's not exactly what Mr Kerry called for, he called for planes to stop flying which again is a situation with no enforcement mechanism and without an enforcement mechanism I just don't see how one could convince the regime which seems very set in its current ways and the Russians not to stop aerial bombardments

2:17:10 There's more than one way to create a no-fly zone, however. I want to make this point because when people talk about a no fly zone they often envision it as an area that is patrolled by the United States Air Force or other major air force very costly and a very large operation but you You can create a no-fly zone simply by making it unattractive for planes to fly there. You could achieve that by providing limited amounts of anti-aircraft weaponry to vetted units of the Syrian opposition." Oh, okay! If you know a helicopter dropping barrel bombs were able to be taken down then you can best believe that the Syrian government would think twice about flying helicopters over civilian areas

2:17:53 Wow, yeah. Very nice! Yeah arm the rebels that's great how'd that work out? That was a really good idea so anyway so she's in charge of some of this and I also have a clue... Now you're talking about is A-N-A-E-S H-O-O It's no Jessica Aschew Oh Jessica Aschew Aschew yes Okay i'm thinking of Anna Eschew as the Clinton person okay now this is Jessica Aschew but she's been around How do you spell her name? A-S-H O-O-H. Wow, what a name! Yes are you going to consult the book of knowledge I'm looking at the book of knowledge now. She's 28 she's a military expert yeah apparently is just the same person that was giving his speech yes from the Atlantic Council oh my god yeah and i know

2:18:50 But why don't you get some uptalkers in Atlantic Council, some up talkers? Well we have one of the co-founders of Reddit who was brought back Alexis Chanion. Wasn't it Aaron Schwartz wasn't he the other co-founder of Reddit? Wasn't he instrumental? Yeah maybe I could be. I think it was instrumental. I'm just never a reddit guy No, please. Well listen to him talking about how they police things. There are all these fascinating ethical... This is a I think this is a CBS or NBC interview so they jazzed up the tech segment with all kinds of little cool music. ...questions that tech leaders are now taking on you look at the power social networks look at some of the issues Twitter has had with banning certain groups and I know Reddit took a stand recently in band three alt-right groups

2:19:43 Has your line on what you choose to ban and how you go about it, has that shifted at all? One of the most important things we did when Steve and I came back two years ago was actually one of the first things we did was update the content policy for Reddit. That created the rules of the road for what was allowed on the platform. And we even built an anti-evil team which is like our SEAL Team 6. What's inside the anti evil team? What is an anti evil team? We should have one in every organization I think! We're really lucky, our first hire at Reddit 12 years ago was one of the smartest people hardest working people I know. Dr Chris slow and we're putting his brainpower behind this team that basically tackles the most pressing issues that are affecting the community with regard to

2:20:26 Evil so what we mean by that is everything from spam to any kind of harassment or just violations of our content policies To dealing with ring voting people who are trying to cheat their way onto the front page, so you know We made a thoughtful decision as a company to take some of our best people and not focus them on growth Or revenue no typical Silicon Valley things but instead focus them on this which admittedly is gonna mean Less short-term growth in things like revenue and traffic But we would believe a longer term value because you're from some of our peers that have had significant missteps That this is it's important to be investing in today. Okay? Well good luck with that my friend, because it's not gonna work real hard work

2:21:10 I sure hope they don't close down our subreddit. That would be a tragedy. That would be a plus! Good call, Jessica! Go! No no we don't know...no They need that space they need to do that and by the way Nick... You're right instead of bugging us yeah good idea. Yeah Nick The Rat has actually he's doing something very interesting He goes into the IntoTheNoAgenda subreddit And he starts agreeing with the trolls, but like all caps. Yeah! Adam and John those a-holes I can't believe they're asking money send money for their show it's crazy and they don't know how to respond It's like they got a brain freeze and he's doing it everywhere. It's very funny He's very good at it. Okay is good Nick yeah, he's multi talented. So she came out of she has a LinkedIn page so that get little background on her mm-hmm

2:22:06 She, uh... it's like you know I don't want to... what is that? The spot the spot the spot the something. I forgot what it was. Spot the spot the spot the something. Oh! You mean spot the...I'm trying to how do we sing that away? Is it a spot the troll no no no no there we go Everybody wants to spot the spook. Lebanese politics, Arabic language, Arabic media political development. Okay she's there for a year She was no one left behind board member with the Brown Brown took what do you think international relations? Oh yeah bro With concentration on global security in the Middle East Huh It just all adds up to Reddit to me Spook And then she goes The next thing you know she got a Marshall scholarship

2:23:08 Oxford. Yes, so she goes there and she actually gets a doctorate of philosophy in international relations. Then she becomes a subcontractor for the Eurasia Group and then a shift editor at Oxford Analytica which I think is some sort some sort of a paper mill. Well, yeah. Senior analyst policy planning department in the United Arab Emirates Minister of Foreign Affairs office Abu Dhabi Sounds good to me And the next thing you know she's the deputy director at the Middle East strategy task force in Atlantic Council and from there because of all the logic we put together all this

2:23:48 thing she's leading up to, she becomes a director of policy at Reddit and shuts down Q. Yes! Nice work. I applaud you. Very good work Jessica. Holy mackerel is this not obvious? It is to us. Oh man Yeah, and she shut down Q speech on how to put Give them the the rebels in Syria a bunch of anti-aircraft batteries She's at the top of her career right now Only 23. Yeah, but 23 I don't know what our ages but top of her career old top of her career good

2:24:34 Yeah. Graduates from Brown in 2006, that would make her around you're usually what time were you 22 when you graduate from college? That was 12 years ago. Twenty two plus twelve she's 34 or my guess Yep, that's what you need on a fast track though. A lot of women that are this talented they tend to graduate sooner So she may actually be 20 and not 34 but 33 or 32 Bobby 33 Hey, oh nice is the magic number Wow Good one I missed that completely yeah there it is all right let's take a look at

2:25:17 I got a couple of things going on. So the FBI director shows up on The Good Morning Show to talk to Nora and they're pitching this, what Trump actually ran on a lot of this stuff of China, China, China bad guys are stealing all our stuff and so they're trying to twist this into a new narrative where it's China, China, China they're trying to steal all our stuff which is what Trump was always saying to China, China, China. They're trying to steal our stuff and Trump's not helping. It's Trump fault. Good. Let's listen to these two little clips that be careful about the number two. That's a second clip when I put that too in the middle of her name for some stupid reason versus America may be under attack by China in this way is the target of economic espionage investigations and nearly all 56 FBI field offices we met up with FBI Director Christopher

2:26:16 field office. Yes, China is now under investigation by all the field of all all 56 fields. Wasn't it terrorism that was under investigation by all the field offices before? What happened to terrorism? And when you're listening to her interview this guy, ask yourself hey wait I thought terrorism was the number one problem we got here in the world. Someone's waking up i guess and who did this report on Nora it's a CBS CBS okay Okay, good.

2:27:08 China is our top priority in that space. We've had cases involving everything from turbine technology in places like upstate New York to corn seed development in Iowa What do you mean corn seed? They're trying to steal our corn seed? Of course we have I think America's agriculture is the envy of the world and we're very proud of it and we should be And whenever we're the best at something, somebody else is chasing us. That's something that I think most Americans don't understand. What are they trying to steal? What do they want? They're trying to steal our trade secrets, our ideas, our innovation... The U.S. Trade Representative put a figure on the theft of intellectual property and it's up to $600 billion annually

2:27:52 This of course is Trump's mission. He knows what China is up to, so that's why he told the FBI to go all in on China Yeah well they're blaming Trump somehow some way as usual but that 600 million kind of matches the trade deficit Billion billion billion you said millions? 600 billion and now He drops a little, this thing by the way was about 15 minutes long. This is the best part of it and he does have a little saying in here that I want to kind of mention when he's finished China's goal is to take what it can

2:28:31 and become essentially self-sufficient, and put American businesses out of business. Well to replace America as the world's economic superpower? I think that is their goal and they are pretty open about it It is not only these individuals who are engaged in spying its companies You have raised concerns about the Chinese telecom giants Huawei and ZTE Why are they national security risks? Well anytime you start talking about foreign companies that are beholden to foreign governments, that don't share our values and our dedication to the rule of law. It enables them to conduct economic espionage it enables them to conduct different kinds of cyber attacks it enables them to steal information in a variety of ways The president intervened a few months ago to save ZTE from some of these crippling financial penalties that Congress wanted

2:29:26 Was the president wrong? I continue to be very concerned and I think the intelligence community continues to be very concerned about the threat to our telecommunications infrastructure presented by some of the kinds of companies that are beholden to foreign governments that don't share our values. And, the idea of letting the fox in the hen house is something that people need to be really careful about before we find out that were going to regret it Wow John your Pavlovian use of the bell did it I totally tied the beginning of the show to this moment. Chinese are just rude a-holes. Well, that's because you're probably sharing our values! Yes they're rude a-holes and they probably don't even think stealing secrets is wrong That's an interesting concept In fact tomorrow... It actually applies to Marxist philosophy Oh?

2:30:26 Well, I was – I went to Russia once and I was given a lot of lectures. I've been to China dozen times but there's one kind of thing that keeps cropping up they always believe and I think the Chinese more so than the Russians that intellectual property is the property of public. And it's for the good of the public. So anything you have this intellectual, you know, you want to just take a copy and make a better version? You want do something else that doesn't make any difference because it benefits the public and China is actually proving it where their public is benefiting from them stealing all this stuff. Interesting! And they've got economy that's really booming weird were kind of backwards about this world fashion on how he can't do that. Right but just like cutting in line they don't even see that as wrong

2:31:12 They might not. So I have to keep telling him about it Yeah, well i think that if someone cuts in line and you know we'll be out here tomorrow as well... ...I'm gonna say hey don't cut in line and stop stealing our secrets! There you go is exactly what you should say. I'm gonna do that damn thieves so sharing our values may actually be the code word for cutting in line Well, that's certainly a value that they don't seem to share and also personal space their ideas. There's a spot you're standing in line Yes You've let a gap you've let it up against somebody's butt. Yeah, you're not if there's a little room in front that between you and the person's butt in front of you They had they see that as an opportunity so that's the same with with islands in the China South China Sea They're just like but this everybody's this is what I don't see any problem. They don't have the same morality This is quite a discovery

2:32:07 There's no reason why you can't take that values statement from cutting in line to stealing and capturing, and God knows killing. They don't share our values. But then they stick it to Trump because the fact of the matter, almost but not quite... The reality is that ZTE thing if they would have put the screws in them it could have collapsed a Chinese economy and brought us down with it. We cannot let their Chinese economy get... This just be straight about this these guys are I hate these news people The Chinese economy is at a point where we're not at the point where we could survive. A Chinese collapse, no. Without it affecting us We have to get ourselves to that point That's what I think they're trying to do but there is so much resistance on the Democrat side that its never gonna...we are always going to be subservient of the Chinese if things keep going this way So, that why Trump did that He does not big go China guy? I guess he knows him

2:33:11 They cut in line on it. Yeah, they're cutting the line cutters. They don't share our values I do have the ISO from that clip corn seed is this an end of show ISO? What do you mean corn see they're trying to steal our corn seeds? They'll steal anything if it's not nailed down Damn Chinese I'm becoming xenophobic So one of the, somebody put this collection together and it got passed around. It hasn't been on... I was expecting to be in some of the comedy shows. I think the problem is if you're going to put these clip collections together about something that's for Trump usually, you have to make a tight package. It's gotta be probably 10. Oh its gotta be tight yeah

2:33:54 10 seconds. This is two minutes and this is two minutes, this is Trump's bit he does this... This is one of his bits if anyone has listened to a speech it's more than one of the speeches you listen to one speech not going to notice but if you listen more than once be sure gonna find five or six thematic jokes these are jokes they're counted as lies by these back-diggers. And where was from actually? Where's package from This package is from here and now or some little website that puts these together It's a bunch of Democrats are trying to humiliate Trump, but it's very well done And so this is Trump in his he says this one thing about the 401k And he keeps and every time he goes to the next city. He modifies a little bit Of course that counts as another lie But if he's modifying this gag to see what gets the best response like any comic would do I?

2:34:48 Over the weekend I was in New York City and I love to say hello to our folks in uniform whether it's the military, whether its law enforcement. And we had people backstage and I always want to take my time And a man comes up, he was a police officer in New York City. First time anyone said this to me, he said Mr President I want to thank you my family thinks i'm a financial genius My 401k is up 39% in nine months Last week in New York City with a very, very fine group of policemen and they were all so happy about their 401ks. They feel like they're geniuses because in one case he said I'm up 39%. He said my 401k is up 39% it's so good. And I love the policeman, I love the fireman they're great right?

2:35:49 And they're always coming up and saying, sir thank you very much. My 401k is up 41%. My wife thinks I'm a genius The first one came up to me And said, Mr. President I want to thank you so much. I said what did i do? He said my 401k is up 44% and my wife thinks I'm for the first time a financial genius she's giving him all the credit! And he said sir I want to thank you You've made me a hero to my wife and to my family I've always been a horrible investor but this year My 401K Think of it is up like 46% I think he said people they come to me all the time and they say thank you so much. I'm up 42 percent 48%. I'm up 37% And my wife or my husband thinks I'm a total genius as an investor then one policeman comes up good-looking guy says, you know My wife always thought I was a financial loser and I have a 401k and sir

2:36:51 I'm up 49% this year. She thinks i'm a business genius. Lies, all lies, all lies! I gotta tell you...I am a certified non-financial genius and I thank you Mr Trump my future wife's 401k is up 50%. Woohoo! Goodness that's pretty funny. Hey tell me about this tell me about these because we're getting towards the end here What is up with these? These buildings exploding gas explosions, which yeah Before I want to put one more entry into the ISO contest which is floodwaters okay flood waters are rising and

2:37:38 I like the corn better. I think that's better. The corn is better, you're right. That's why we wanted to check it. Yes, let's play this clip of these gas explosions mostly over Massachusetts and there is a piece of information here that I didn't know. We knew there was a buildup in gas pressure on the pipes here that caused the explosions and fires The NTSB now saying that problem was detected beforehand at a monitoring station in Columbus, Ohio. Investigators looking into how the local gas company here responded to what sounds like a warning of a potential problem as residents here continue dealing with this disaster It was the only house in the entire neighborhood that exploded and burned

2:38:16 and it belongs to officer Ivan Soto of the Lawrence Police who was eerily at the center of the tragic events that unfolded all over the Boston suburbs this week. It's surreal, you know? To me it's not even real I feel like this is a dream On duty when the gas fires erupted, he was amongst the first to respond to calls for help. He was there with Leo Rondon, the teenager crushed to death in his car by a fallen chimney We tried to take the chimney off we tried everything we could And while helping others, the tragedy engulfed his own family His daughter in their house when the fire started I called her just in time She felt the first explosion she got out ran across street neighbors

2:38:56 Consoled her. Today, he returned for the first time! So you're trying to save a life... You're worried about your daughter and this is happening to your home all at the same time? That's correct. Now, this is a... they turned this story which seems kind of interesting or should be into a human interest story about some guy. Now they don't do any of these why does Columbus Ohio control the gas going into Massachusetts and there are things called regulators on these systems and relief valves? These things weren't employed what is going on? This story that just looks like terrorism to me That's what I thought

2:39:37 And it's like happening all, you know like a bunch of places all at once in the same areas. All their gas pressures went way up for some reason somebody online said it might be Stuxnet net being aimed at us. Are these regulators in the home? Are they controllable? No no there's right...no the main guys before they send gas out they're not just sending that any old random pressure Right, the regulator. Yeah okay right. I mean, the whole thing is very sketchy and there's nobody talking about it. Everybody around here thinks the same thing with these fires a million fires in California everywhere just bang bang bang just random all over the place without lightning storms or anything causing them these are all just dry fires and it looks like terrorism but nobody wants to even bring the T word into the conversation

2:40:33 But at least our 401ks are up 39 percent. They're up 50 percent for New Yorkers I got a clip of, i've got the same kind of human interest story What's going on? Really seriously what's going on nobody knows Nobody knows what's next including Bob Elbrecht as he sits on the steps of his North End over home for the last 10 years Columbia Gas and National Grid came by Friday afternoon to turn everything off But when will it come back on? He has no idea. You're kind of limbo, so is it tomorrow? Is it five days? Is it a week? So we have no idea his neighborhood is quiet. A stark contrast from downtown North Andover when a Columbia gas representative came to town this morning

2:41:14 It's a little bit of concern. Can you speak to that? They'll explain all that to you when they come out. You guys are kind of deflecting every question. Answer questions if they might have or take their questions and we have some more to get back at them. Our question is, when is it going to come back? Who's gonna answer those questions? Albrecht understands his neighbors outrage at the gas company and says it's justified. I mean, it's shameful they really should be ashamed somebody needs to be held accountable people died in this people have lost their homes People are being displaced and are still displaced unfortunate But it just it's horrific that I read somewhere that there's a gas union workers issue going on

2:41:56 I haven't heard that. Yeah, we may have to look at it...I thought there was somewhere I read about some union lockout or something was happening? I don't want to blame it on Union workers per se but I mean... Well something's amiss with the reporting on this It's not easy for a house just to blow up from gas! No, not out of the blue 23-24 of them how many blown up? A bunch of them blew up But on fire at home and can't they just find a way to blame Trump them? At least we can have a story surprised They haven't blamed Trump already Let me see what people are saying yes, according to the Okay. I'm just looking at the troll room here for a second looks like There may be a contract dispute

2:42:44 Pretty pretty hardcore though if that's what we're the level. We're going to for In the olden days it wouldn't be well how old in days are we talking 30s? Okay, well All right, well let's move to... would you let that sit because we don't know anything. Yeah we just don't know Let's go to Manafort at least get Manafort out of the way I read everywhere cause i'm on remote here in a different country So they're gonna feed you the real good propaganda Yes! Manafort has flips Trump is going down film at 11 He's flipped flips he's flipped flipped flipped flipped he's gonna help Mueller Flipped flip flip flip

2:43:27 Okay, we have a clip. All right let's play the first clip. Paul Manafort the president's former campaign chairman has accepted a plea deal it follows months of refusals by Manafort who is now the fifth person linked to Mr Trump to plead guilty to criminal charges Errol Barnett at The White House with the latest Errol good morning Good morning. Press Secretary Sarah Sanders says Friday's developments have nothing to do with the president or with the 2016 election, the White House trying to distance itself from the former Trump aide but with midterm elections fast approaching that will prove to be increasingly difficult as special counsel Robert Mueller gains yet another willing cooperator from the center of the Trump election strategy He happens to me a very good person

2:44:14 And I think it's very sad what they've done to Paul Manafort. Over the last few months, President Trump repeatedly defended the character of the man chosen to chair his election efforts while lamenting the existence of the special counsel probe late Friday echoing that sentiment telling The Wall Street Journal quote, I got hit with an artificial witch hunt that should never have happened. No chance Reversing his previous claim Manafort would not flip, attorney Kevin Downing said Friday Manafort's wife and two daughters were at the center of his decision to share what he knows. He wanted to make sure that his family was able to remain safe and live a good life. Huh... Okay I thought that the key to this thing was at the end when the lawyer says it was about his family wanting to remain safe Yeah

2:45:08 It's like what happens when the mob, you know. Hey! You know if you talk... you're gonna end up with... you got a little kid Billy He's got Billy right? You've got Billy and Lucy. You've got Lucy She's like well... Someone is threatening his family if he doesn't flip What did that sound like to you? Yeah it sounded like it to me That's not the way the news interpreted it but yeah That's what it sounds like. Well thats also why they even say that for Especially a guy like him who looks kinda gangster-y So let's play the second half. In a DC federal courtroom, Manafort pleaded guilty to two felony counts stemming from his foreign lobbying but is also agreeing to assist the special counsel significantly cooperating fully truthfully completely and forthrightly including sharing any knowledge of all criminal activity and all documents relevant to the council's questions he also agreed to testify at any proceeding

2:46:05 Manafort could answer questions surrounding the infamous Trump Tower meeting in 2016. One President Trump initially said was about adoptions, but Mr. Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani admitted was intended to discuss an exchange of dirt on Hillary Clinton. Manafort now joins several others from the president's orbit who have pleaded guilty to a crime and offered up what they know to the special counsel. They pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI? Yeah Yeah, they always just to make it. They always use the word crime You know yeah what is a crime so is actually letting your parking meter run out? That's a crime Bob violating the law Yep, well I committed a crime last week like Martin City like Martha Stewart right before everybody like Martha Stewart She went that she went to jail for it

2:46:55 Yeah, she went to jail for complying to the FBI. Well with matters of this you know this is a little above our pay grade which let's face it when your podcaster a lot is above your pay grade almost everything but we do like to go to the constitutional lawyer we trust the most who happens to be a liberal and a Democrat and his name is Alan Dershowitz And he was invited on MSNBC to give his opinion of this flipping. Then here's what he said, you have the special counsel Robert Mueller who was put in place to look into this issue of Russian influence Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential campaign any potential ties between the Trump campaign and Russians in 2016 and now you've got this plea agreement featuring

2:47:39 the man who was running for a time, the Trump campaign. Is that something the White House should be alarmed about right now? Well of course they should be! There's nothing he can testify to that would probably lend weight to impeachment because he didn't really have close contact with President Trump while he was president but he did have contact during the campaign Tough question whether or not alleged crimes committed to get somebody elected president is an impeachable offense. And we don't know the answer to that and perhaps he can give them information prior about his business dealings Remember, he's not a credible witness He's pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice to lying has changed this story repeatedly but what they're looking for is self-evident

2:48:21 corroborating information be used against Trump. Look, this validates what Judge Ellis said on day one. Judge Ellis said they're not interested so much in Manafort for Manafort obviously he's committed crimes but they're interested in primarily to see if they can and this is him talking judge Ellis if they can make him sing And then there's also the possibility of him composing, that is elaborating on the stories. I'm curious...I just want to make sure that i'm clear in this thing because there seems to be some confusion here about what potentially... Because you're not giving me the answer I want to hear! He would be cooperating with when it comes to Mueller Your assumption or your sense of this though Is that Muellers interest would be Trump

2:48:57 Oh, there's no doubt about that. And I think once he agrees to cooperate he has to cooperate about everything There is no such thing as partial cooperation The question is did he cooperate too late? Would have been better off cooperating before his first trial? I think he was perhaps hoping for a pardon and then the question comes up Did the president act too late if he was gonna pardon? He'd have been much better off pardoning early rather than until these are ready corporators I don't think we're gonna see any kind of a pardon at this point. I think we're gonna see Cooperation and it remains to be seen whether the cooperation will help The special prosecutor will help the US Attorney in the Southern District that remains to be seen so far all I see is Manafort

2:49:41 Being linked to the Podesta group. This doesn't seem like this is going the way everybody will want it to go Well as in the newsletter I pointed out that turns out two Manafort's quite closely connected with Obama Yeah, yeah there was that there was something some one of his clients wound up in the Oval Office isn't that what happened? With Manafort Obama and Biden you know was right people should subscribe to the newsletter for these tidbits yes You get fun photos and fun facts. And a lot of fun photos, and you get to see Adam with the t-shirt that he's washing. All right two things before we go one we have reached total insanity with this white power signal hand signal which is... What is it? Well you just do an okay sign with your three fingers up

2:50:29 That means three points shot in NBA parlance. All the players do that! Yeah, but they can't be racist because all the NBA players are black so no But they had one guy, the coast there was a live shot. I'm surprised you haven't seen this There was a live shot of the Coast Guard and the guys talking and some interview going on in the background A guy like brushes his hair back And then doesn't...like uh..you can clearly see for maybe half a second or a second It's like it's the three-point shot thing as he strokes his hair or something and immediately everyone freaks out. Oh, he's flashing the white power hand signal! The guy gets removed from duty and investigation has started!" What?! You should look at the tweet I sent out yesterday. I was watching German TV over here and this crazy German singer does a OK sign. It's like oh there it is spreading its hair. It's just the okay sign? No no its white powered.

2:51:31 Yeah, that's what you do. You subvert the language and subvert the signals. Everything is upside down. He has co-opting the oh he can't say okay now anymore. Hey okay good for you! No if you say okay...you're right if you say okay it'll be an abstraction of the white power system. Okay, you can even say okay anymore. White supremacist. And then finally this I think will come back to haunt her Alexandria Ocasio Cortez our favorite democratic socialist did a photo shoot, I don't know what magazine it was for. And as one does often for a photo shoot you put on some spiffy clothes there's a stylist who comes along and I have to say the outfit she had on which was pants and a jacket was very snazzy looking looks great on her she reminds me so much of Huma Abadie. Yes yes incredible just kind of a variation of Uma remember Uma did the Vogue shoot

2:52:31 Yeah, very similar to this. So she had her pantsuit which retails for $2,800 and she had six hundred dollar shoes on and of course everyone's like, ah socialism! You know the typical stuff especially Fox but then here's what she really... Here's the thing where here's the egregious part She then tweets and says you don't get to keep the clothes after a photo shoot duh How tone-deaf are you if you don't understand that as a politician representing democratic socialist values, the mere fact that you're wearing the suit is an issue? You need to wear, y'know, a sorghum sack. Yeah, fatigues. Fatigues! Anything but... Used fatigues from China. Anything but $3,000 worth of stuff

2:53:31 And she really doesn't understand. I don't think she understands dumb come on Wow, very stupid She's not a very wise. She's not it. She's not she hasn't got much going on. She's out of her league Oh that hurt my ears. He's out of her league Sorry, oh wait you can't do they leave without me playing my one clip? Oh, I'm sorry your one clip your shorty Let's do it just bugged me This is the AN-225 clip. Well, a plane full of supplies is heading to Hawaii before Hurricane Olivia. Sky7 was above as the six engine Ukrainian designed plane and AN-225 hit down at touchdown on the runway with a maximum takeoff weight of 640 tons it is the heaviest plane ever built this thing is massive

2:54:22 The jet is loaded with FEMA relief supplies. Look at this thing climb into the air, lumbering into the air Hurricane Olivia's expected to hit midweek The plane then goes to Guam which is threatened by a typhoon Is that Antonov? Antonov 225? Yeah! The big Antonov! The big, big one not the regular little giant one Yeah I know... This has 12 engines It's got six. It does I'm not kidding, I think it has 12 engines. It's got six engines and a split tail and its huge! And it was landing in Oakland to pick up the... Oakland is always accommodating the Antonov company they're always landing one of their big planes here but they never landed this monster here before once they landed it and the guy landed with his

2:55:04 5,500 foot runway and they landed it about 4,000 feet in and turned off on the first turnoff. The guy's really a good pilot And then they fill it up with some fuel and took off again, which is annoying because they could have told us. The foamers would be loving to see this thing come in! Yeah they could have given us a heads-up... ...and it was painted in all kinds of weird colors. It wasn't even the normal old paint as a new style of paint in yellow and blue and Ukrainian colors. It's beautiful! So when he said Ukrainian design, he meant the color scheme not the plane itself. No no Antonov's in Ukraine. It's in Ukraine? I didn't know! I thought it was Russian. No, no...it has always been Ukraine. It is like one of the sore points about the fact they lost these guys but after they land this thing with its got... That is pretty. I'm looking at right now. ...714-20. Its got like 28 wheels

2:56:02 Yeah, and 18 engines but only on Thursdays And it comes in after they land this thing. They have to send out an inspection crew to check the runway yeah Wow that thing is cool isn't it? It has six engines, and it does have the split tail that thing is fantastic That is kind of mean isn't it they should have This is the kind of news coverage you get around here after it takes off we get the report all right well I'm sure they'll do something about it for you now no they won't probably not Listen, our next show which is on Thursday as it always is will be coming to you from the Netherlands. And that will be the last show before we head back. Well of course you never know just keep your eye on Twitter for the pictures tomorrow Here today gone tomorrow nice working with ya John You might be back next week in a different dimension well yeah but then you report maybe I don't know what your gonna do Heading off to The Large Hadron Collider everybody and never know what could happen

2:57:05 And with that, we come to the close of this episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe. Partially from Northern Silicon Valley and from Fat Cat City here, Luzerne Switzerland... I'm Adam Curry! And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain although I am going to leave the house today I think. I think. I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda Until then, in the morning and adios mofos! Donate to No Agenda, they give us shows week after week. Donate to No Agenda it's a show that is really unique! Donate to No Agenda listen to John and Adam speak. Donate to No Agenda science is turning into a clique

2:58:14 their own agenda. Is San Francisco better off covered in hypodermic needles and human waste? I like space exploration, Space Force... Yup! This is it If not tell us why and be specific This is about getting rid of a common sense of truth Collusion. And their agenda is not your agenda! Collusion to serve a tiny pool of tech oligarchs Everything is conspiring together. Collusion Why do we need the Space Force? If not, tell us why and be specific Yep this is it Handful of tech monopolies The Space Force

2:59:11 I got ants. I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion, uh... I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine grind black pepper- We were having dinner and yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal And I ate it These things are peppery I got ants

2:59:52 I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot and then you see when you find all the ones that are roaming around here... I go like back them off by doing the burning trick. You just torch them. And leave him there. The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants. I got ants. I got ants. Ants? Ants! Okay, ah... I've been waiting for this moment for months and it's finally here

3:00:52 I'm finally going to get a heritage unit on camera. Yeah! All right, look at that, 1953 E8. Woo-hoo! Oh yeah listen to that bell. Take a look at that. Oh my god! Listen to that horn! Oh my god, oh she's beautiful. She is beautiful yeah! Alright...oh my- OH! OH NO IT'S A BL2 TOO! OH THE SNC 52! Oh my god! We're gonna watch this. This is special. THIS IS SPECIAL

3:01:42 Ah, that horn gives me the chills. And the chills have absolutely nothing to do with how cold it is here! But that doesn't stop a foamer... Oh especially when it comes to Heritage equipment Oh, this is fantastic! Oh my goodness. Look at that blue and gray. Couple to the Iowa Pacific number 518. Woohoo! Listen to that horn! That's fantastic. Oh my gosh look at that. I wonder who TC Durrant is?

3:02:31 Oh well. Ah! This is just awesome I've been waiting for this for months Look at that, Illinois Central Livery right here in North Creek That is awesome! The best podcast in the universe! What do you mean corn seed? They're trying to steal our corn seed