Episode 1062 · Thursday, 23 August 2018

A.I. Zombies

Legal battles intensify as Michael Cohen pleads guilty, Elizabeth Warren proposes a corporate overhaul, and European leaders move to bypass American financial dominance through a new payment system.

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About this episode

Michael Cohen attorney Lanny Davis launched a media blitz following the former fixer's guilty plea, claiming President Donald Trump directed illegal campaign finance violations. Legal analyst Alan Dershowitz countered the narrative, arguing that personal funds used for hush money do not constitute a criminal act regardless of election timing. The legal fallout has triggered a new media cycle focused on the term unindicted co-conspirator to pressure the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings.

Senator Elizabeth Warren introduced the Accountable Capitalism Act, a proposal requiring federal charters for billion-dollar corporations and employee-elected board seats. In Germany, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas called for an independent European payment system to bypass U.S. sanctions on Iran and the SWIFT network. Meanwhile, the deportation of 95-year-old Nazi guard Jakiv Palij from Queens to Germany provided a strategic public relations boost for ICE amid ongoing immigration debates. UK media continues to warn of medicine shortages and travel chaos as Nigel Farage faces criticism for his post-referendum leadership during Brexit negotiations.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak explore the privacy risks of Bluetooth-enabled hearing aids and the psychological trauma of Google content moderators in Berlin. The show features a knighting ceremony for Sir Husky Bottoms and Sir Chris Eisbach, while mocking Stevie Wonder for linking global warming to the death of Aretha Franklin. A Talking Elmo doll issuing death threats and the rebranding of Animal Crackers packaging round out the cultural observations.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

Tesla Stock Tips, Chicago Travel Plans

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program with travel updates, noting Curry's upcoming trip to Chicago for a Ronald McDonald House charities conference. The conversation shifts to a financial tip regarding Tesla stock, specifically a January 2019 $200 put option. The hosts recount an afternoon of wake surfing on Lake Travis with a former New York banker who provided the market insight.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· chicago· tesla· stock options· ronald mcdonald house· lake travis

00:00 We were hacked! We were hacked! We were hacked! We were hacked! We were hacked! We were hacked! We were hacked! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Thursday August 23rd 2018 This is your award-winning GetMoNation Media Assassination Episode 1062 This is no agenda Porn stars for pleasure and profit and broadcasting live from the capital of drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas In the Cluedio, in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley From what I can tell there's no porn stars around here. And this effort is not by yet We're ahead at the game! I'm John C DeMarco Crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning Right we're rocking we're ahead of the game we're good to go which is good because I gotta get out on time today Okay? I'm going to Chicago

00:47 Yeah, Tina's been there all week with a big Ronald McDonald house charities conference annual conference Living it up nice time of year to be in Chicago August. She says it's beautiful I can't be he says it's absolutely stunning well get over there go down Hit these buttons what could possibly go wrong? I'm so sore today What did you met about? I went wake surfing with the former New York banker on his boat yesterday. Okay, yeah when when the former New York banker calls and says hey it's Wednesday let's go out on the boat that's a yes sure and of course you know we're friends so we hang out just you know fun to mess about like

01:40 Lake Charles Travis no like Travis Travis Travis yes but of course we really only want one thing a beer now we want info we want Intel we want deets you know what we want stock tips yeah you ready for it I'm all my ball ears here we go he has a January 200 put No wait, it wasn't a 100. Shoot! Look at the portrait. Oh great I love it. Suck. Had a great wine last night really what was it? I don't remember He has a... I got it now he has a January 200 put on Tesla January 2019 Yes $200 put

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

Elon Musk, Tesla Privatization Claims, European Auto Competition

The discussion evaluates Elon Musk's controversial tweets regarding taking Tesla private. A source suggests Musk actually intended to delist the company to protect shareholders from short sellers rather than a traditional privatization. The hosts compare Tesla's market position to legacy automakers like Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes, suggesting these established brands will eventually overshadow Tesla's electric vehicle dominance.

elon musk· tesla· porsche· bmw· mercedes· privatization· short sellers

02:25 Now that's a stock tip! I don't know anything about options. Even after you explained it to him, he was like, yeah i'm gonna stay away from that. That sounds like something Adam could get very hurt by. That's all I ever hear. Guys who do options... I keep thinking Tesla is a goner, but you know it's he had another if you remember He said that in March Yeah, he said 250 the 250 called and it made it to 250 well yeah or lived 250 But here's the thing First of all he says the real problem is well

03:15 You know, this taking the company private is not true. That's not what Musk was trying to do and I think everyone has been misinformed by this What he wanted to do, is he wanted to take all of the shareholders basically delist the company. Not take it private but delist it and the problem... Which was a lot different than what he said! Take it private in his tweet? I'm just telling you what the banker said. He..I think beyond the tweet and some interview that's what he was talking about. He wanted effectively delists the stock to protect the shareholders from the shorts

03:55 What and he also doesn't want to report as often as you does but of course, yeah when you have when your public company You have obligations. Yeah But when you have like more than 100 shareholders? You also have to report as if is if your public company this is true at least that the report to them Yeah, I think there is some disclosure Anyway, but maybe the banker says Tesla is no way and mainly because everyone's looking at Tesla. Yeah They're doing interesting things but what when you see what Porsche and BMW? And Mercedes and all these companies are coming out with it's gonna blow test a lot of the water

04:35 Oh, you know I've heard stuff like this before about some... You know. This was a- it just reminds me of the days of the first Star Wars movie and Disney comes along says, oh yeah we can do better than that and they say, that stinks! We can do better in there. We're gonna show them how to do it right. And then they came up with the movie The Black Hole which was one of the worst movies ever. Well It's a little different from building a car, which I think there is some expertise. Yeah but it's not as though the Tesla's something that you never see on the road and they're all over the place... Look look! I'm not gonna argue with ya' I'm just passing on the information. That sounds like...I don't know Well I am in agreement with the fact that Tesla is a goner in some way shape or form at the long haul because it really relied on the government subsidies to do its thing Yes yeah

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren, Accountable Capitalism Act, Nationalization Concerns

Senator Elizabeth Warren introduced the Accountable Capitalism Act, which critics describe as a massive seizure of private property. The legislation would require corporations with over $1 billion in revenue to obtain a federal corporate charter and allow employees to elect 40% of board directors. The hosts compare the proposal to democratic socialism and the political rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

elizabeth warren· accountable capitalism act· socialism· federal corporate charter· alexandria ocasio-cortez

05:27 We'll see. Well, regardless whether he delists takes it private or stays public if Elizabeth Warren has anything to do with it It'll be a very different situation Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren unveiling a shocking new proposal that would nationalize every major business in America the new legislation called the Accountable Capitalism Act would constitute the largest seizure of private property In human history So, what would it do to our economy? What would it look like for the government in charge... This is the onion. You're playing the onion! No, this is not the onions. It has to be! I've never heard this... This just came out. This is actual network news. I have not looked at the legislation yet but on the plane I will you better believe it Largest seizure of private property in human history So what would it do our economy? What would look like with a government in charge over largest corporations Let's ask the CEO of Walzer Wealth Management Rebecca Walser Good morning Rebecca

06:27 Good morning and thanks for having me. Thanks for being here, what's your immediate reaction to this idea that all of a sudden the government would nationalize all these companies? It would be like WHAT?! Like you just did! That's what it should be... Well I'm glad that she is bold enough to actually tell us exactly what she wants because now we can call a spade a spade This is definitely socialism Because socialism is public ownership of companies where all the profits are actually redistributed to stakeholders instead of shareholders Yeah, let me just break down the bill for you and then we can let you pull it apart. So this is what Elizabeth Warren says because as you point out she's being direct she's being blunt about saying I want socialism The Accountable Capitalism Act restores the idea that giant American corporations She writes should look out for American interests Corporations with more than a billion dollars in annual revenue would be required to get a federal corporate charter

07:24 She says the bill also would give workers a stronger voice in corporate decision-making at large companies and employees would elect at least 40% of the directors to address self serving financial incentives in corporate management. Noodle boy will be pleased! Yeah, so you know this is like how San Francisco's run Oh yeah makes sense Poop poop And the result is always poop That's I mean she if she really that's a Hail Mary as far as if true and again, I haven't read the legislation or the proposed legislation. She's off to deep end but that that's a hail Mary it's like I'm going all in on this Democrats socialist thing and Because there is an element of delusion Yeah seems to dominate the Democrats on a day you know daily And it keeps increasing to me and I think

08:19 Not well, okay. Not just Democrats I have an actual right-wing unhinged clip for us There's plenty of right wing on hinge right wingers They've been that way for a long time But this kind of delusion is the bubble where you're in it and you actually You see this Cortez woman? And then you say well maybe everyone is going that way Maybe I can outdo them Oh, you mean AOC Cortesia? Ocasio-Cortez Andrea yes Well, yes. Yes I think you're right it's like hey that worked for her! I'm just as pretty? Newsflash! Newsflash! Elizabeth you're not You're not just as pretty... You do not have the same characteristics that made her successful So far so far yeah

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Mollie Tibbetts Murder, Immigration Policy Debate, Elizabeth Warren

The murder of Mollie Tibbetts in Iowa by an undocumented immigrant, Christian Bahena Rivera, sparks a debate on immigration enforcement. Senator Elizabeth Warren is criticized for pivoting from the tragedy to discuss border separations and mother-child reunification. The hosts analyze the suspect's confession and the media's use of the term "undocumented immigrant" versus "illegal immigrant."

mollie tibbetts· iowa· christian bahena rivera· immigration· elizabeth warren· mike pence

09:07 Well, I will let you... Sunday we'll have an analysis of this deal. It's going to end with... Let's face it no one is gonna do that in a million years. Well what it does is it takes Elizabeth Warren out of everything! I think she took herself out already a couple different ways She took herself out with the poor dead girl up in Iowa Yeah, I think and I have that clip since you brought her. Yeah Elizabeth Warren on the Tibbetts the yeah I want to get with Janine here because of a very important story in the news. It has to do with Molly Tibbetts, the young woman in Iowa who was murdered her body believed to be found yesterday A person has been charged with it this person is an undocumented immigrant Mike Pence and the president have suggested that immigration laws need to be stronger so that people like this man who was accused of murder were not in the country Your reaction?

10:03 I'm so sorry for the family here and i know this is hard not only for the family but for the people in her community, the people throughout Iowa. But one of the things we have to remember is we need an immigration system that is effective, that focuses on where real problems are. Last month I went down to the border and I saw where children had been taken away from their mothers. I met with those mothers who had been lied to who didn't know where their children were, who hadn't had a chance to talk to their children And there was no plan for how they would be reunified with their children

10:43 It's like she goes right to the democrat talking points. Yeah, that's what you do and but unfortunately they're lousy talking points I don't think she realizes that no by the way i do have a clip of the molly mollie Tibbetts clips as we brought that since I brought it up uh this is just a very short clip because I just thought there was something kind of like puzzling about this story. Mollie Tibbetts, alleged murderer shuffled into the courtroom in silence wearing a prison jumpsuit and headphones for Spanish translation Mr Rivera you have been charged with murder in the first degree 24-year old Christian Bahena Rivera is originally from Mexico federal officials tell us he's an undocumented immigrant according to the affidavit Rivera told investigators he followed Tibbetts as she was jogging in Brooklyn Iowa July 18th

11:32 When Tibbetts said, I'm going to call the police. He panicked got angry then his memory quote blocked until he remembered finding Tibbetts in his trunk bleeding from the head He says he left her body down this road in a cornfield. Okay, what are you not liking about that? Well I'm not disliking it but does this guy just spill his guts immediately to the first cop that comes around and he comes up with this crazy story and he's...I just found her in the trunk! I don't know! Maybe somebody else put her there! Because I was blocked. Meanwhile, Tibbets, Ojaga runner... Why didn't she just run away from the guy? No that's easy for you to say who the hell knows! I don't know what the situation was. Don't say these things. That guy is not going to tell us no but it was a horrible situation and i think there are some points to be made for Trump's approach Well the thing that bothers me is undocumented immigrant It's just bull! It's an illegal immigrant

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Jakiv Palij Deportation, ICE PR, George Soros Comparison

The U.S. government deported 95-year-old Jakiv Palij, a former Nazi concentration camp guard living in Queens, New York, to Germany. The hosts suggest the timing of the deportation serves as a public relations boost for ICE. A comparison is drawn to George Soros, with claims made regarding his activities during World War II in Hungary.

jakiv palij· nazi war criminal· ice· queens· germany· george soros· concentration camp

12:31 I know humans are not illegal, but he's here illegally. That's what it was undocumented immigrant. I do not like this newspeak. Well, I agree with that the news media is just sold out to the thought police Yes they have well since you brought up immigration somehow I'll just take that at the since Elizabeth Warren brought it up This was extremely weak. Couldn't believe that they did this, like let's make sure ICE looks really good! Ice is important! A man authorities believe is the last Nazi war criminal living in the United States has been arrested and deported to Germany. President Trump ordered agents to remove 95 year old Jakiv Palij from his home in Queens New York Justice Department officials say Palij who was an armed guard at a death camp in Poland

13:31 and lied to US immigration officials when he came here in 1949 saying he was a farm worker. He is denied being a Nazi collaborator, U.S officials say his deportation has been held up for years because of Germany's reluctance to take him back citing lack of evidence and citizenship questions It's a double whammy! We get to implicate Germany? And look how important ice is. Oh yeah! Well, I don't think that's the way that story went and then in that particular story where'd you get that? It sounded like, almost sounded like Jeff Glor. Could be I don't know where i got it from? I have the same story done differently and in this story at least they don't blame Trump This is those Trumps standing over the guy get him out of here you're fired! Well see I thought exactly differently I thought that this was launched by ICE probably with or without knowledge of the president

14:28 to show how important the work is that they do. Ice wasn't even mentioned in the story. Yeah, well okay the video you see ice jackets everywhere let's put it there. Okay all right okay okay Let's play your version I'll play your version and see what it is The United States has delivered a last known Nazi suspect in the country to Germany after he lived in the US for almost 70 years The government believes that Jaakiv Palij served as a guard at a concentration camp in Poland during World War II, which he concealed in order to enter the U.S. in 1949. Federal agents carried the 95-year old from his home in Queens New York this morning in a wheelchair. The head of Nazi investigations in Germany said no arrest warrant had been issued for him there

15:14 We have to wait to see whether there will be a new evaluation or whether new evidence appears to underpin the suspicion. With all Nazi crimes, we have tremendous difficulties to solve them because they date back so long the situation on site has changed." A judge had ordered Paul Liesch to be deported 14 years ago but until now Germany and other European countries had refused to take him. What's interesting about this story is that I forget which newspaper Had the headline that he was armed guard in Polish death camp. Well, I think this story was instigated by the Republicans hoping to get the reaction it got from me

16:03 Which is, if this guy a guard at one of these camps is so guilty and has to be shipped out of the country To be tried in Germany even though they have no evidence against them. What about it? Yeah I got you. What about George Soros Why isn't George Soros being shipped off to Germany? Are you saying he was a prison guard?! He was worse! He admitted being in the SS and one of the guys that said got people to give up their jewelry and stuff, put it in a pile before they got on the boxcars. As far as I know thats what he did. That's what he said he did. I have the clip let me see where was this...

16:46 I think that this whole thing was set up to get that thought, to get into the public mainstream. I just put it in there but we don't have that kind of you know... The mainstream media is not going to do it Here, I have the clip. That it can actually touch you. You have a belief in yourself your belief in your father It's a very happy making exhilarating experience Yeah, but yeah that's all I have with it yeah, it's all about context obviously yeah, okay love it

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Brexit No-Deal Scenarios, Nigel Farage, UK Political Infighting

Media outlets in the United Kingdom are reporting on the potential consequences of a "no-deal" Brexit, including medicine stockpiling and travel bureaucracy. The hosts criticize Nigel Farage for stepping back from leadership after the initial referendum victory. They discuss the possibility of a "do-over" vote and the influence of remainer media figures like James O'Brien.

brexit· theresa may· nigel farage· sky news· james o'brien· european union· stockpiling

17:43 Okay, so why is he floating around anyway? That's what I thought this story was about. It was like a way to slip that in. Okay! That's it take...I like it Well staying in Euro land then just so we can because we're gonna get to all the other stuff in a minute There's a new term which has been in play for about 14 days and now it's really ramping up headlines in the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East No deal! It's now known as a possible no-deal Brexit. And because there is no deal Brexit we have to scare you, says Sky News. For two years now Theresa May has promised that Brexit means Brexit and Britain is taking back control of laws money and borders but what we've seen is indecision infighting resignations

18:33 and rebellion. So what if this headline was true, and Britain does leave the European Union without a deal? How will that affect everybody in Britain? Small common things that you will have to live without if there's a no-deal Brexit Flow of trade in and out of the country so even if we continue to get our flowers tariff from Holland See that customs officials on the other side of the channel will do likewise for all goods The guy is actually walking in the shot with a bouquet of flowers to accentuate his point and our services now ultimately is the crux

19:18 of the matter. Theoretically, life could just carry on as it has done in the past but there's no domestic legal obligation for it to do so if we leave the EU without any kind of a deal That means lots of uncertainty, which is why businesses are likely to cut back on investment and why the pound is likely to take another tumble with implications for everything we buy. And by the way when the pound tumbles having lived in the UK everybody gets pissed off for one reason and one reason only... Do you know what it is? No, I don't. Vacation is more expensive. Ah yes! They hate that because they've always had this pound which was usually a buck fifty bucks sixty yeah it's about a buck thirty maybe less Oh our holidays in Spain no deal poses a huge challenge to the delivery of fresh medicines

20:08 hospitals and pharmacists, particularly time- and temperature sensitive products like insulin crucial to the daily lives of more than 400,000 British diabetics including the Prime Minister. But almost all of it is manufactured. She could die and imported from Europe It's among the 75 million medicines that pass back and forth from the continent every month Ministers are planning to stockpile to make sure no one goes short What if you're one of the 1.2 million UK nationals living, working or studying on the other side of the channel? Or one of three million EU citizens in the UK? You might die! Would he be able to continue? No! A lot of work had gone into guaranteeing reciprocal rights for EU and UK citizens but with no deal it'll be up to individual countries to negotiate their positions

20:59 Don't worry, we're not going to have mass deportations. But people could have to get visas to travel, permits to work and could face increased bureaucracy to stay on And there's lots of worry about access to areas like health care and benefits This isn't reality yet but people are being warned life could get more complicated. No deal is better than a bad deal was the Prime Minister's mantra before the plans for stockpiles not just for medicines but for foods too, before the plans to turn a 13 mile stretch of the M20 into a giant lorry park for 2,000 vehicles before the plans

21:36 Customs Department essentially not to enforce border checks in order to keep traffic flowing. Whilst Brexiters argue that all this is the same old scare stories, that they omits that no deal could mean no £40 billion Brexit bill negotiators don't want No Deal but by default or even by accident it could be where we're heading. You're going to die Strategic medicine stockpile a couple of things is I've noticed on LBC that the talk Channel over there. Yeah, you listen to that all day. I can imagine no I don't I'd only listened to it sparingly This guy may listen to Farage once in awhile but he most of those shows are very they're padded and they own the best guy on there who's a

22:25 a remainer and hates the Brexiteers, and is a huge globalist is this James O'Brien. And as far as he's concerned there should be no Britain But he's the, he's a logician and he kind of gets these people on and catches them where they don't have any. If you don't come on there with evidence... What is your evidence for this? What is your evidence for that? I've never heard it. Do you have any evidence at all?" Well no! I'm in a talk show! I'm not here to get mad in court! I'm here for opinions! So he was grilling some guy and they were going on and apparently in Parliament, I didn't catch the exact moment. They had a big breakdown of the conservatives. They all started fighting with each other about a redo. Oh yeah!

23:14 Isn't that what this is all about? Yeah, it's all about getting the vote to go again. Which of course was very predictable based on their previous activities we've seen with the EU and how they managed to do this when people reject their ideas. Redo is always in the works and O'Brien's a big promoter of this of course And I, it's just a matter of time. I don't see how they're going to get around it because Farage...I blame Farage for the whole thing. Because he stepped out! He stepped back! He took a knee! I've seen this happen. This happens in American businesses all the time, where you got some young entrepreneur starting up some company and then he feels obliged to say oh geez I made all this, I'm doing pretty well let me just kind of step aside and give it to a professional Yeah And they do that and the company folds because it was them... Yeah look at Steve Ballmer taking over from Bill Gates Well It wasn't until they kicked that guy out that's there start to get their crap together again

24:17 The way I see it, not the best example. The better example would be Adam Osborne and Osborne computers stepping aside and putting some guy in there or Steve Jobs. Although he didn't really step aside He was kicked out. And it's beside the point and we're only you got a guy like Farage leading the way and making something happen that would not have happened I think most people can agree on that yes there was other people involved Boris Johnson and others were pushing the idea but if it wasn't for Farage, I don't think it would have I don't think the Brexit would have occurred and then as soon as it happens he takes a victory lap! The job is not done they're not out... If he had listened to us

25:04 Because we said before and right after the Brexit vote that there would be a do-over. It's it's their culture in Europe Yeah, it's what they do is I did with France Spikes to football yeah You're right now he's trying to get back into it but it's too late Is this over they're gonna have this do-over and they're gonna be back in the EU And that's gonna be uh... I think there's an additional little problem that the UK may see although it's not mentioned in this report The EU, they have become really unhinged. And I'm sure it has to do with the tariffs and they're all afraid about what...

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

EU Independent SWIFT System, Iran Sanctions, Heiko Maas

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas proposed creating a European payment system independent of the U.S.-dominated SWIFT network. This move is intended to bypass U.S. sanctions on Iran and increase European financial autonomy. The hosts speculate that such a move could lead to a spike in Bitcoin adoption as an alternative international payment network.

swift· heiko maas· germany· iran sanctions· banking· bitcoin· monetary fund

25:43 what Trump is going to do to them so let's be more independent from those guys. Something that you probably would never have seriously thought of being talked about just a couple months ago but now proposals for an alternative to the swift banking system becoming legitimate discussion topic in the EU German foreign minister Heiko Maas has floated the idea of an independent system free crucially from US pressure where the U.S. crosses red lines we as Europeans must counterbalance As hard as that is, it is indispensable that we strengthen European autonomy by creating payment channels that are independent of the United States. A European monetary fund and an independent SWIFT system. So SWIFT first off what does this stand for? Good for

26:26 pub quiz this, it's the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications. Anyway it is a global payment network designed to secure transactions between banks and encompasses 11,000 financial institutions and 200 countries. Swift claims political neutrality crucially but Of late, it's apparently caved into American pressure. Let me tell you about that case in point after Washington withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and then reimposed sanctions against Iran Swift was left with a pretty stark choice cut off Iranian banks from its network by early November or face an asset freeze travel bans and restrictions to do business in America now German MP from the AFD party thinks although the foreign ministers call does make sense

27:07 It's come at the wrong time. The one who controls finance, controls everything. So in this sense it is a strategic goal of Mr Maas making Europe and Germany more independent by creating its own financial system It's a strategic goal that has its right to exist. But please, we have to take into account possible reactions from the United States I think they won't be fond of this idea and we cannot afford to worsen the ties with the United States at the same time when Europe itself has deteriorated

27:52 his relations with Russia. So the boldness of Mr. Maas is not in the right time and not at the right place I'll say Well, The problem is now once you show your hand we have... And they're not gonna do it just show their hands We could just say hey hey! You are cut off No, we plan for this In other words One of those things where you just lay in wait with a system or something better that you roll out and crush them when they finally... I hope it happens. ...when they finally bite the bullet and do this? I want them to do that, that would be hysterical. Oh, there gonna do it! There's no doubt about it. Watch Bitcoin spike when they do that. Oh yeah! Yeah maybe. Yeah, I think so. I think it'd be funny if they just say okay we're adopting Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the international payment network. Bitcoin

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Michael Cohen Plea, Alan Dershowitz Analysis, Campaign Finance

Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz provides an analysis of Michael Cohen's guilty plea and the allegations that Donald Trump directed illegal campaign contributions. Dershowitz argues that a candidate paying hush money with personal funds is not a crime, even if it influences an election. The hosts discuss the media's "whataboutism" and the pressure on Cohen to provide evidence against the President.

michael cohen· alan dershowitz· donald trump· campaign finance· chris cuomo· msnbc

28:51 Well, that was dumb. Good catch You don't hear about this stuff anymore in America That's why I'm happy with you busy discussing what we're gonna start talking porn stars Before we get into that. I do have a preliminary clip. I want to play We're gonna talk about Cohen and Manafort for people who yes liked to be teased Oh I want to play Dershowitz was on. Oh God, I got this one yes yes he was on it. Do you have a longer version? What's the length of mine? Mine is Dersh on campaign finance and it's...I don't know how long is this. Let me see..you've got oh no you've got 45 seconds I've got where is here

29:36 Mine is oh no I much longer. It's the only one she played a long version And then if there if it doesn't incorporate what I have then I'll back on back back you back you up So to set it up when whenever this show You and me and everybody else within the sound of my voice have legal questions about constitutionality etc Dershowitz is the guy and Let me preface this, Dershowitz is a left wing borderline communist extremely intelligent Harvard professor in the law schools. I think he's been at lot of these different schools. He is always kind of the epitome of an analyst and

30:25 And he never really likes Trump, but he keeps seeing what's going on around this president. I think he takes the same kind of hit we do. It looks like he is defending Trump when he is not! He just saying hey hey you guys are full of crap. So the Cuomo kid... and by the way have you seen his setup now? People are noticing it with a big head in the middle and two heads on the side Yes, I don't like it. Its creepy! It is wrong from a television perspective It's wrong look it looks creepy. It's just creepy. It's the big head in the middle I got mine from an NBC MSNBC, I think was Katie or somebody This is this is the Cuomo kid with a CNN lawyer Jennifer Roger and it doesn't say where she's from She's just a CNN analyst lawyer

31:15 and Dershowitz, and here is their combo. We have never heard someone of the standing of Michael Cohen connected to any kind of politician let alone the President of the United States stand in open court and say yeah I committed some felonies but he directed me to do it what is the impact from your perspective? Well now just so we understand at the end of this trial Manafort apparently and he was convicted of Cohen you tell my cohen Cohen I'm sorry Cohen goes stands up and says Yes, that was an illegal campaign contribution And I was directed

31:57 You didn't say the president lawyers are directed Have you ever had a lawyer that you can direct and tell them to break the law for you? Yeah, let's let's just have the good professor explain this It's hard to know what the legal at first the dits impact would be I mean as the professor points out we're probably not going to end up in court with an indictment against Donald Trump on this in large part because of the office of Legal Counsel opinion that a president can't be indicted but It is unprecedented. I mean, never before has someone stood up sworn under oath that the president directed them to commit a crime which means of course that the president also has committed a crime and i don't agree that these laws are vague or there's some reason that this contribution to the campaign just clear as what it was somehow unenforceable if the president were not the president he would be indicted very soon if you hadn't been already

32:45 No, that's not true. Why? Any candidate has the right to contribute unlimited amounts to his own campaign any candidate it may sound terrible and it may be terrible but any Candidate has the right to pay hush money to somebody to influence the outcome of the election The problem is not if its unreported does it but Well, that's the next question is whether it has to be reported. Is that a technical violation? Yeah how many technical violations the Obama campaign committed and this is where he runs into trouble And I'm not sure why he did this although it is true for him to, this is what they call WHAT ABOUT ISM? So the minute you say this on CNN the audience they're trained if they go What about Ism? They don't even hear what he's saying. I think this is a mistake that he brings into it. Well that's the next question whether it has to be reported and is that a technical violation how many technical violations

33:38 the obama campaign committed and uh... every other campaign committed failure to report a contribution by the candidate itself is this is essentially jaywalking now then you have the credibility issue when you have somebody who himself admits that he is a liar and members judge ellis said what do you have as when you squeeze somebody when you tell somebody of two choices you can die in prison Or you can give me evidence that we can use against somebody else. The temptation not only to sing, but to compose is very great and it's so easy just add a little bit of embellishment saying... And the president directed me to do it by the way But why do you believe thats an embellishment? That is an accusation Why is it an embellishment Well thats the point

34:21 It's an easy embellishment to make if it didn't happen. Remember, but how could it not have happened? He admits... How could it not have happened? Of course its very easy for it not to have happened! Its very easy for it not to have happened look again I'm not here to defend anybody But I'm telling you With women that he wasn't involved with the president was and the president never knew anything about it You heard the tape that we broke on this show right? The question is not whether the president knew, it's when the president knew whether he directed him to do it. Now the president may have had a standing situation with him take rid of all these problems get rid of all these problems pay them and I'll pay you back that would not be a crime so

35:00 There you go. What did we miss anything? Well, it wasn't quite the same. He was much better on MSNBC I do want to mention something when you wanna play your fun him you want to play your clip well No, I'm gonna talk about the clip. You just played okay

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Fixers in Politics, Michael Clayton Movie, Media Giddiness

The concept of a "fixer" is explored through the lens of the film Michael Clayton, starring George Clooney. The hosts observe that the mainstream media, including reporters like Andrea Mitchell, appeared visibly excited by the legal developments surrounding Michael Cohen. They argue that paying off a porn star is a moral issue rather than a criminal one.

michael clayton· george clooney· fixers· michael cohen· andrea mitchell· media bias

35:44 Cuomo says, well why would he do that? Why would he you know how he wouldn't do it other than he was directed to do. They left they keep leaving out the put for some reason they've stopped saying this the mainstream has stopped calling Cohen Trump's fixer Yeah a good catch yes and fixers that's what fixers do let's just let's just Review for one quick second He had sex with a porn star And whether she was hinting at making trouble or whether he wanted to lock it down, he paid her off. And like many payments in his case and I think that's very conceivable they went through his lawyer or you know the lawyers that go between... The fixer! That's what fixers do. So that's it, that's it and everyone is all jitty

36:38 The general public doesn't have a fixer at their disposal. It's the movie Michael Clayton I would advise everyone to watch at least once Michael Clayton is a movie about it as a George Clooney movie one of his little movies got Tilda Swinton the Academy Award for Best Actress Yes, I know what you're talking about This movie is about a fixer And how in a corrupt situation and how he kind of became a good guy in some funny way after they tried to kill him. It's very, very intense and excellent movie but it's not you know there are no robots and there is no superheroes so... I tried to get a clip of it when I was in the car when I heard it but they were

37:28 excited at MSNBC. I heard one reporter come on the air, I think with Andrea Mitchell. Oh they were giddy! And she's like oh I was on Air Force One with the president and we saw it come through on the news and of course we can't use our phones or anything and I was just shaking and I couldn't believe it and then we lit. It's like oh my god it's happening is happening Please calm down. Here's Dershowitz, then this clip was actually I picked it up off of CBSN and CBSN had taken it from MSNBC and It was done by NBC but this is a I think just wraps a lot of the thinking up The president doesn't break the law

38:16 as a candidate he contributes to his own campaign. So if he gave $1 million dollars to two women is hush money, there would be no crime. If you directed his lawyer to do it and he would compensate the lawyer, he's committed no crime. The only crime is that third party namely Cohen on his own contributed to a campaign that would be a campaign contribution so its catch 22 for the prosecution. If they claim the president authorized him to do it or directed him to do it, its not a crime for anybody. If Cohen did on his own then its a crime for Cohen but not the President this is going to be very difficult case for the prosecution to make precisely because the laws of election are so convoluted

38:59 And it's interesting because the term that is being thrown around is the unindicted co-conspirator, which very strangely or maybe that was on purpose I noticed this in the news about two weeks ago regarding The Unindicted Co-Conspirator of 9-11. So this unindicted co-conspirator word was kind of set up And it's a phrase yeah, and it's very nasty. You know just like I'm an I get I'm very good very well done Now but hold on just stay on this track just for one second because I have a quick clip regarding this

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Unindicted Co-Conspirator Terminology, CBS Analysis Critique

The term "unindicted co-conspirator" is identified as a new media talking point used to implicate President Trump without a formal indictment. The hosts critique a CBSN segment where analysts struggled to explain why Trump would be guilty of campaign finance violations for actions taken as a candidate. They dismiss the "monarchical theory of government" arguments presented by critics.

unindicted co-conspirator· cbsn· campaign finance· donald trump· legal theory

38:16 as a candidate he contributes to his own campaign. So if he gave $1 million dollars to two women is hush money, there would be no crime. If you directed his lawyer to do it and he would compensate the lawyer, he's committed no crime. The only crime is that third party namely Cohen on his own contributed to a campaign that would be a campaign contribution so its catch 22 for the prosecution. If they claim the president authorized him to do it or directed him to do it, its not a crime for anybody. If Cohen did on his own then its a crime for Cohen but not the President this is going to be very difficult case for the prosecution to make precisely because the laws of election are so convoluted

38:59 And it's interesting because the term that is being thrown around is the unindicted co-conspirator, which very strangely or maybe that was on purpose I noticed this in the news about two weeks ago regarding The Unindicted Co-Conspirator of 9-11. So this unindicted co-conspirator word was kind of set up And it's a phrase yeah, and it's very nasty. You know just like I'm an I get I'm very good very well done Now but hold on just stay on this track just for one second because I have a quick clip regarding this

39:40 Well, before I do that. I do have two follow-up clips to Dershowitz's thing. Alright let's do it! The reason why... This is one of the CBSN things and they had these experts. You heard what Dershowitz said Now, I want you to listen to the...I've got this. It's actually the one clip is number two but play one which is just a beginning This is a guy's analysis because CBS had brought these guys in to slam Trump I want you to listen carefully what this guy has to say and then tell me if it makes any sense at all. Kir, what's your assessment of that argument? Well, the first thing is that when the direction occurred President Trump wasn't the president he was uh.. He was a candidate

40:23 Well, how does that make him guilty? But why would he be moving campaign finance money around after he was the president. He's already elected! So this is always going to be about him being a candidate No this happened two weeks before the election. He was a candidate Yeah, well but even if it happened afterwards what's the logical sense? Because this is about campaign finance violations. If he's sending money around after he's the president what does that got to do with a campaign?! But I thought he sent it around two weeks before he became president! Yes that's what I'm saying... That's why this guy says is so idiotic. That's the point

41:15 Let me hear it again. Kir, what's your assessment of that argument? Well the first thing is that when the direction occurred President Trump wasn't the president he was a candidate I'm just not understanding what you're saying. I'm dense Okay well i'm saying what you're saying which is Dershowitz goes on and says when you're running for president if your finance... by the way Trump made a point in saying I'm gonna pay for my own campaign even though he didn't really fully If you're spending your own money on this stuff, it's not a campaign finance violation. And then this guy says well he was running for president at the time and he wasn't the president I'm just saying that makes no sense what this guy's analysis is

42:01 It's not really analysis. Well, if you want to now listen to the whole thing and tell me and listen carefully to his three points and tell me what he is trying to say here and what does it have to do with anything? I want to get both of you to weigh in on what we just heard there. Kir, What is your assessment of that argument? Well, the first thing is that when the direction occurred President Trump wasn't the president. He was a candidate The second thing is there aren't charges against President Trump on this issue right now. The third thing is that, you know it's an interesting theory... It sounds to me a lot like this unitary theory of government, this monarchical theory of government that the president wants to take the position that because he is the president he has the ability to do things that nobody else can. Oh yeah we're back to that okay good

42:52 The point is that Dershowitz is talking about one thing. This guy didn't hear a word of it! No, no they lock it out...they lock it out Probably because Dershowitz said Obama and what about it? Can't hear it. It's like the guy, like the undocumented... And his point number two was not even a point, it was that well there is nothing to I just could be befuddled by the fact that CBSN and The Reporter What doesn't she say this isn't what we're talking about can you get back to the point they can't even do that okay but you've got it now Well its my understanding that the Cohen thing

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Lanny Davis Media Blitz, Michael Cohen Evidence Claims

Lanny Davis, attorney for Michael Cohen, appeared on various news programs to claim that President Trump directed Cohen to commit a crime. The hosts analyze Davis's performance on the CBS Morning Show, noting his failure to provide concrete evidence beyond his own assertions. They suggest the media is disappointed that Cohen did not have "smoking gun" information regarding Russian collusion.

lanny davis· michael cohen· robert mueller· donald trump· cbs morning show· nora o'donnell

43:32 Was supposed to... Now wait, was this Cohen or now I'm confused. Was it Cohen or Manafort? Hold on where am i Yes Lanny Davis he's the isn't he get who is a lawyer for I don't know who's a lawyer for who now Cohen we're talking about yeah is Lanny Lanny Davis yes okay good then I have it We're not talking about Manafort at all there's nothing much to talk about I got you I'm confused but I'm back okay here I am So, Lanny Davis who of course is a Clinton operative they had hoped in this prosecution for Cohen to say Trump knew about the meeting with the Russians that Don Jr. had in Trump Tower That was what everybody in the news business was expecting That's what was supposed to happen Instead Cohen gets up and says some bull crap about I committed a crime and he made me do it

44:32 But listen to Lanny Davis and listen to his words about something going wrong, which is what we're talking about. What Donald Trump told him I'm not allowed to do that there is certain complication in that story that were never able to correct See? We're never able to correct They were trying to manipulate this story but I do... To answer your question No that Michael Cohen has information that would be of interest to Mr. Mueller in his probe of a conspiracy to corrupt American democracy, very similar to the indictment of the 12 Russians I believe that uh... Mr. Cohen would be able to provide information useful to the special counsel i won't call it smoking gun information

45:29 I think there's a disappointed guy. That clip, I believe came from the morning show and I want to play since you brought Lanny Davis up to where this shows going I have this morning show clip where the CBS people don't know what to do with this guy. He's useless and it starts off bad and it just gets worse, let's play the Lanny Davis clip morning show. Cohen's attorney is with us from Washington. Good morning. Your client said he made those payments to the two women in coordination with another direction of Mr Trump implicating the president in a federal crime does Michael Cohen have evidence of that?

46:08 Look, this is one thing I'd like to do this morning above all and which it's not about evidence. It is definitive indisputable that Donald Trump lawyers said in a letter to the special counsel that President Trump directed The same word that Michael Cohn used in court yesterday, under oath directed Michael Cohn to make illegal payments. It's not a dispute it's not about credibility his own lawyers use the word directed now we lied on Air Force One when he said he knew nothing about it and Rudy Giuliani said he can lie to the American people and it's not a crime but

46:49 his lawyers are the witnesses against him that he directed Michael Cohen. There's no dispute on that." Well, I appreciate that but i think you can understand it's a pretty explosive allegation to say that the president directed him to do that and that's why I'm asking about evidence because the next question then becomes Do you believe the president is a co-conspirator? And if he could be indicted First of all, I do have to respectfully disagree when your lawyer states something that's evidence that your own lawyer is Saying that you did something it's not a dispute his lawyers wrote the special counsel and said That he directed Michael Cohen to make these payments. And so the answer is yes He committed a crime

47:32 He should be indicted if he were not president. He clearly would be indicted and jailed for that crime whether he can be indicted as president of course it was uh, not yet decided by the Supreme Court. But Lenny as you know lawyers can say one thing one day and then they're paid to say the opposite thing the next day and say it's just a semantic debate which is why evidence is so important in a courtroom and in these kinds of political debates So back to Nora's question Yes, lawyers may have said what they said. The game is now different." What evidence is there that your client has that the president actually directed to him with the purpose of fixing this with respect to the election? Well actually with all due respect when a lawyer makes an admission of fact on behalf of a client That is dispositive evidence It's not disputable evidence and Rudy Giuliani then repeated that statement as another lawyer

48:27 a President Trump committed a crime by directing and why did he direct? Because he didn't want his signature on the check. Why because he was covering up right before the election or else why didn't he do it himself we've gone insane you think And everybody's a lawyer. This went on and it was like to watch the crew on The Morning Show with Dick Dickerson and Nora, they were beside themselves getting this guy to say anything but that same comment over and over because he was hoping to put the final nail in the coffin then everyone thought it was gonna happen! This disappointment abound

49:26 Well, it's a dead end as far as I can tell. Now I think Dershowitz is right there's nothing he does... Of course there is! It's a nothing burger He paid off a porn star for having sex with him and was embarrassed about it and he was married his wife had just had a kid You've actually gotten to the real crux of it And what they're trying to do is find some criminal thing that can hang on him instead of the moral thing they can hang on him, which they seem to be ignoring. The sex with a porn star seems to have gone by the wayside as something that hey this guy is like he's married to this beautiful model and he's having sex with just any old random you know... No wonder people are pissed off!

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

Trump Rotation, Senator Mazie Hirono, Kavanaugh Confirmation

Senator Mazie Hirono called for a delay in Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation hearings, citing the President's status as an "unindicted co-conspirator." The hosts discuss the "Trump Rotation" (or "The Loop"), a cycle of shifting media outrages. They also share a listener story regarding Claire McCaskill's brother and an alleged NDA involving embezzlement.

mazie hirono· brett kavanaugh· supreme court· merrick garland· trump rotation· scott adams

50:09 It's like they're not even paying attention. It's a good sex scandal and they're letting the sex scandal go by the wayside! But they've learned that doesn't work, you know we're off to full-blown... That's because they don't concentrate on anything long enough these Democrats it doesn't work because they get off of it laundry list that we have published of the Trump rotation. They keep jumping from one thing to another, they can't focus on any one thing to really target him." And by the way Scott Adams discovered the rotation and he said yes it's The Loop I'm calling it The Loop! No Scott this is the Trump Rotation, It's a broadcast term not The Loop

50:48 The loop? What is it, like the hyperloop? Is it some way of commuting to LHC? It's the same thing. I mean he's identified the same thing we have only we have the correct term We also have a lot more on our list Yeah you know and I wanted to tweet him with the list but... ...I don't get much further than CosmicWeenie and .htm I can't remember what you named it We do have... Because it's not Trump rotations, like Trump insults. No we have a website now and I'll get you the name. Please do yeah all right before we end this because i'm tired of it The term unindicted co-conspirator is what will be bandied about and I think it's a very disgusting term It's like being pre dead

51:43 You know, like pre-cancerous, pre delisted all these things. So unindicted co-conspirator and this is now already the term you're going to hear it everywhere and Senator Hirono of Hawaii is already calling for a halt to the confirmation hearings of the Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh. Supreme Court justice-to-be, Kavanaugh. Good luck with that! But listen... she does it right in the beginning. You announced pretty dramatically today you're actually canceling your scheduled meeting with the US Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh tell us why?

52:23 The president is an unindicted co-conspirator and I do... Now, I listened to this three times. This is almost like Laurel Yanny. I think she says unidentical conspirator Oh well let me listen. ...court nominee Brett Kavanaugh tell us why? The president is an unindicted co-conspirator and I... Sometimes I hear her saying unidentified co-conspirator and then... I only hear unindicted Tell us why. The president is an unidentifiable conspirator and I don't hear unidentified, I hear unidentifiable. Unidentified? I said unindicted. Tell us why the president is an unidentifiable conspirator. No, unidentifiable. I hear unidentifiable. She's saying unidentified, she's saying unindicted really it's very clearly clear to me. I think it's Yanny Laurel but it doesn't matter tell us why

53:23 The president is an unidentifiable conspirator and I do not owe this president the courtesy to meet with his nominee Brett Kavanaugh, who by the way is being nominated because the president expects Justice Kavanaugh should he make it to the Supreme Court. To basically protect the presidents okoli as we say in Hawaii. your colleague on the Judiciary Committee, Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal. He's calling for an actual delay in the scheduled hearings supposed to start September 4th for Kavanaugh First of all is that realistic? You're the minority The Republicans are the majority

54:00 beginning we democrats have called for a delay in terms of the hearing and we said what's good for the goose is good for the gander or whatever this thing is because Mitch McConnell has said with regard to Merrick Garland that we should wait until the election. What does it matter whether there's a presidential or any other kind of election? So he held that seat for a year yeah so So she says, well I think it's because he is unindicted and she goes on and on about it. And then she says from the beginning because of the Garland thing we wanted to stall this all so what was she full of crap? Yes yes She's full of crap We're asking for a delay until after this election so that American people can weigh in

54:45 So we've called for a delay, but even more so now with what's transpired. We think that it is really important for us to get all of the documents that we need and... What is the all-filed rush to get this person on the Supreme Court? Well I think the rush is that the President wants somebody on the court who will protect his hokole. Is he called Hokoli? Akole, she said. I don't know maybe... Well it's a Hawaiian word for butt Yeah exactly but i want to know what the word is for show title. I want to know the hokoli? We're not going to use it for show title Okay well then I don't need to know! I do have a final Whataboutism from one of our producers He says so in 2004 I owned a fine dining restaurant in Missouri Claire McCaskill's brother was my general manager

55:36 She was running for governor of Missouri against Matt Blunt. I found out her brother had embezzled over $12,000 from me! I knew that he knew and the next day I received a call from a lawyer representing him. The lawyer almost immediately brought up Claire's name, that she would be willing to pay me if I signed an NDA. I did and she did! Sound familiar? I'm coming out now because of what is happening to Trump. Dems and other GOP have been getting away with this for years but now because it's Trump it's illegal?! What a crock! I am willing to talk about on the record says James." How about that?

56:14 Let's get somebody well that would make some noise you've heard this story for the first time The first and last time Exactly. That's how it goes with the whataboutisms. And a Breitbart or something, we can get somebody at Breitbart to go over and talk to the guy. Yeah! It's a scam you know these guys are full of crap and this woman who is showboating this thing here because of Trump's co-indicted... Unindicted coconspirator nonsense admits that was a stalling tactic from because of the Garland thing from the get-go

56:51 So they're not going to stall anybody unless they're really stupid. The Republicans know better, they like this guy that you think is a straw man. They like this guy and they're gonna push this guy through. Haole, H-A-O-L-E, haole. Haole means white devil. Oh yeah! That's exactly what I thought it meant Alright, just before we get into our break here Stevie Wonder played... What? Unless you want to get something to do with this. No! I have one Manafort clip. Oops Well let's do Mana- I got Manafort stuff too but lets do that after the break Okay well do the Manafort stuff second This is called a transition into The Next Block You with me

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Aretha Franklin Death, Stevie Wonder, Global Warming Claims

Following the death of Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder made comments linking various diseases and world problems to a lack of belief in global warming. The hosts mock the assertion that environmental issues contributed to Franklin's passing. They also note reports that Franklin died without a will, leading to a massive scheduled funeral.

aretha franklin· stevie wonder· global warming· whitney houston· chipotle

57:39 I'm looking for something, yeah. Aretha Franklin passed away as we know. And we're gonna have enough... She left no will! Oh, I didn't hear this she's she left no will? Really that doesn't sound like her at all i'm not going to believe this That's what they said Who says? The AP Oh you mean the AP who does stories about the animal cracker animals? I am saying that she left no will is their official word Official word she left no will but she's dead and we'll have a great funeral lots of people already scheduled to perform Nothing like that in show business. Oh, yeah It's gonna be live coast worldwide everyone be it would be like Whitney Houston's funeral. That's gonna be fantastic Yeah, well, okay, I'd be great Stevie Wonder will be there Of course and the today's show sat Stevie down and talked about Aretha You know Stevie had some some choice words to say I've known sometime

58:32 about her condition and I just prayed that even though the odds were very, very, very crazy when you think maybe one out of two out of a hundred would succeed or would beat this thing. I just feel that all these various diseases that we have and all these things are happening in the world In part, it's because there are those who don't believe in global warming. Don't believe that what we do affects the world, what we eat affects the world and affects us and I just hope that people will grow up and grow out of the foolishness and know that we all by how we think, how we do, how we treat others... We will never unlock the key until we truly

59:33 Let go of the hatred, the bigotry, the evilness, the selfishness. When we do that then we can unlock some of those things that keep us in this place. Global warming killed her. Global warming killed Aretha Franklin and all we have to do is unlock The Key! She's getting lunch at Chipotle. The tortise in the race Kim Kardashian, Sigournoy Weaver, R-E-S-P-I-C-T. They're all jitty! R-E-S-P-I-C-T There's no real conflict! Resist! We must resist! We must I think we have the best producers in the universe about that

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Credits, Sir Husky Bottoms, Trump Rallies

The hosts acknowledge the executive producers and artists supporting the show, specifically thanking Ponogeek for episode artwork. A significant donation from Sir Husky Bottoms leads to a discussion about the "constructive destruction" of the Trump presidency and the entertainment value of his rallies, specifically one in West Virginia.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda stream· ponomgeek· tucker carlson· west virginia

1:00:31 Be committed. There you go, Tom Nonymous I had to play the whole thing in the show not just at the end How good is that? And it actually even gave us a little ISO It's so good R-E-S-P-I-C-T Beautiful and with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say In The Morning To You John C! That's what he stands for Co-conspirator Dvorak! In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames...all the knights out there Indeed and in the morning to the troll room a room full of trolls We have no agenda stream calm is where they all congregate on Thursday and Sunday mornings To help with the program as we do it live in real time No editing everything is live live live baby

1:01:25 No agenda stream calm also. Thanks to Pono geek he brought us the album artwork for episode 1061 the title of that was red dot We had trouble finding appropriate art for our naming the right artist on the last show Now it's two shows ago somewhere It was two shows someone's gotta set me straight on that so I can fix the show notes Yeah, but this was the warning no virtue signal like a railroad crossing na its never green But just beautiful It's just one of those you're like yeah, this is the perfect time perfect time to use this and we thank Ponogeek and all of our artists who diligently upload artwork during the show for the post-production which takes about 35 minutes at noagendaartgenerator.com Thank You very much Ponogeek everybody else for your support and your contributions in kind it's like a camp It's almost like an illegal campaign contribution. Thank you

1:02:21 You know who has the scoop on who did what art? No. Oh! He says you won't answer his email. Oh, then it must be Comic Strip Blogger. Bingo! Gotcha... Okay I'll look for his email. The thing is he got in this habit of sending me emails and saying, confirm your receive Like, no! I hate that. I'm going to confirm I received your email You can click a box on most email senders and once the email is received or opened it sends you a notice No because my program says this person wants you to have a return receipt and i don't even...I think its rude It's rude Oh okay well then yeah I dont do that, it's rude I think theres a workaround Maybe not Alright

1:03:20 Let's thank a few executive and associate executive producers for show 1064. No, 1062. I'll take that yeah. Sir Husky Bottoms of the Hardwoods starts us off $334.04 to extend and it is a very long note but There's some jingle requests at the bottom I'd recommend you line up. Through extensive accounting analysis, and want to keep all things in balance in the dark Lord Beelzebub and ensure that my total show donations represented the number of The Beast which is the backstory of the old donation amount today brings the total to 2666.66 And as I only assume the only person you would want to appease more than The Dark Lord Of Hades Is his incarnate son on earth President Trump

1:04:10 My excitement in the primaries of Trump was that I thought government could use some old-fashioned constructive destruction, being that no matter what happened with the Trump victory the net effect would be positive for the country. While my vote was cast for the intriguing undercard of a pot smoking bicyclist My hope was that at some point the voting populi would evolve from mouth-breathers who base their loyalty on either red or blue ties to critical thinking about what truly affects their lives. Alas, I am afraid that the context in which Trump's shit show could have ultimately been beneficial to the country as a whole may be waning

1:04:48 The volume of those that frame public opinion is deafening and I see and hear little critical thinking from anyone in day-to-day interactions. Perhaps he will surprise me, and Jeff Sessions' head will be on a stick at the front lawn as he appears in the rose garden with the singlet and war paint. But until then whatever opportunity there is to effect change with an arrogant man that has the palate of a toddler I'm afraid we'll be lost, but no gloom and doom here. You guys are awesome! Your brevity in a glass half-filled Trump is at least entertaining." Did you see him in West Virginia? No, I missed the West Virginia episode. Oh man! Was it good one? It's always...I just sit there... It's always a good one. ...and I'm laughing like as if he was a comedian. It's amazingly good

1:05:44 I'd like to have seen that. Well, it's online but i'll wait for the next he does these well i usually record Tucker and that's usually when he's on so i always get to see that um get to see at least you know three quarters of it Anyway, since at least Trump is entertaining Pence is downright scary and I can't wait to hear your analysis of the jubilation of the Manafort-Cohen scenarios tomorrow. That's today. I always like getting along with my wife Karma as well as many attempts at mouth punching or not landing. Well not in a crowd you're hanging with pal! And tendonitis is setting in Oh boy I doubt it. Jingle request, Charlie Rose tell me about your sexuality on old classic is followed by John that is not a great question and then the karma first wife. He needs some karma he needs some wife karma. No getting along with his wife Karma all right. Tell me about this sexuality It's in your DNA Great question That's not a great question

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, White Privilege Statistics, Peerage Updates

The show conducts a knighting ceremony for several high-tier donors, including Sir Chris Eisbach and Sir Stavart Iron Brand. A producer provides a statistical breakdown of poverty in the U.S., arguing that while percentages vary by race, the sheer number of white people in poverty (17.3 million) is often overlooked in discussions about white privilege.

chris eisbach· stavart iron brand· white privilege· census data· peerage· karma

1:06:43 You've got karma and let me clear up the art attribution for episode 1060 this was the The Simpsons Alex Jones Simpson's art that was Mike Riley who did it not Darren O'Neill So that would that was a mistake. It shall be corrected and reflected apologies Yeah, Mike Riley. It's all set now. Now we know. Riley and Neil have some similarities but yeah... Riley put it- It was a glitch! It was a glitch man. Glitch onward. He needs some devil getting along with his wife karma I gave the karma You did? Yes Alright Marvin Britton Sir Stammerd Chris Eisbach

1:07:35 Oh, I'm sorry. Chris Eisbach and then see what happened 333 33 in Cheshire Connecticut. I am writing for JobCarme to help my bid for a big promotion hopefully coming in September Also, I love the reference of this schism and the fabric of reality as my first donation 2010 references The Great Schism which happened in 1054 not 1062 Look up East West Schism This puts me halfway from Baron to Viscount, which has no title. Yes it does! Yes, it does. Yeah, Viscount is the title. Viscount's the title? It's on the list. Great work all around keep up the great work sir Chris Bachnight of The No Agenda Brewers Guild Baron of Quinnipiac Valley I think that's how you pronounce it... You never get it right! I love you guys Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma

1:08:39 Marvin Britton, Sir Stavart Iron Brand in Bellevue, Nebraska 333. Greetings from Bellevue home of Sir Stavart Iron Brand and my wife Dame Yeno this is a donation in honor of the dame's birthday August 24th hopefully she's on the list. No she's not I'm gonna put it on now go ahead we were like cheap wine and chili dogs back at the nightstand for today Cheap wine and chili dogs back on the night's table for today since it's been a while. That was the dames original nighting request We'd also like to make a douchebag call out Detroit Tice The requests of my co-worker Ed posh I was recently irregular on the troll room under the handle of spot the spook but work and other things have kept me away Spook work

1:09:35 He's in Nebraska seems unlikely. I still enjoy the show and the sanity it brings Please play one clip for us the full Reverend Manning whoop him with the Constitution and health karma for Damien no, and Ed Pasha's wife Okay, uh Arvind and Peggy Mm-hmm. Hold on there was a lot of work here Whoop him. Let me see it's just a song I think yeah, I know but you know It's like I'm doing a million different things here You know I've got birth the most important to get the birthday on there then they have to have something for the roundtable Where's Manning whooping whooping whooping? The hell is it oh Yeah No no John III can't find it the hell fine for the end of the show

1:10:33 That's not acceptable. Well some health cover for Damien know an Ed posh his wife would be appropriate I'm gonna look for this you've got karma So stand by Marvin now we have a jingle is needed for this too, I guess this would swamp anybody no Duke Nussbaum from Virginia Beach, Virginia. Grand Duke 314-3159 Howdy from Fort Worth Texas Wait a minute... Says Virginia Beach, Virginia how can that be? Maybe he's there maybe he's uh... I'm being a gray hat dude named Ben does have his pros and cons todays pro is carne asada cons texas weather and traffic

1:11:31 Is Fort Worth, huh? Well I thought Fort Worth was a little more clear of all that but apparently not. Biggest hugs and kisses to Adam JCDN my friends at the round table! Thank you very much and i have the Manning rap now get out there and whoop Obama's behind! Whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping with the Constitution! Now here's why I couldn't find it. That's the good part yeah, it spelled WHUP whoop not W H O O P Got it though and we have that's our executive producer we have one associate executive producer Ryan Hedum in Elk Grove California $200 and 33 cents my last name is pronounced head him

1:12:41 Okay, got it. My birthday is March 12th and he appears to be on the list Yes So please add me to the birthday list I graduated from Berkeley in May and moved to San Francisco around October so let's drink wine sometime I tried to Mount Eden vineyards 2014 Chardonnay a few weeks ago would highly recommend it. It's good wine Also, I use this actually a classic. I also have an interesting note about racism and white privilege most of the time people talk about percentages without looking at the actual quantity for example 22% of black people are in poverty compared to only 8.8 for the white population according to 2017 US census

1:13:19 People use this to argue for white privilege and how white people have more opportunity. But when you break down the percentages, 9.2 million black people are in poverty compared to 17.3 million whites! There are white people in poverty too. I bring this up because my dad came from an impoverished background, joined the military and served for six years then went to law school he listens to the show with me once in a while and gets very peeved whenever the topic of white privilege is brought up In the eyes of minorities he's successful because he is white and privileged

1:13:54 And he thinks it's annoying. Thanks again for everything you and Adam do! Yes, I'm gonna hand out a karma for that there you go thank you You've got karma The percentages in sheer numbers are huge hugely different Anyway, that's our group of executive and associate executive producers for show 1062. Thank you everyone for producing this show at that level. And you are indeed executive and associate executive producers with credits as mentioned once again in the newsletter that are valid and are recognized everywhere credits are used And we appreciate our, uh... a nice little list of execs today along with our one associate executive producer. We'll be thanking more people $50 and above in our second segment and remember another show is coming your way on Sunday! Devorac.org slash N-A Whether it's unindicted co-conspirators or not we've got the formula! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. What up? Shut Up

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LGBTQIA Safe Sex Guide, Front Hole Controversy, Dana Loesch

Healthline published an LGBTQIA safe sex guide that suggested using the term "front hole" as a gender-neutral alternative to "vagina." The hosts play a clip of NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch reacting with outrage to the terminology. They discuss the "unhinged" nature of both the social justice movement and the right-wing reaction to it.

healthline· front hole· lgbtqia· dana loesch· vagina· social justice warriors

1:15:00 I'm kind of convinced it's Tourette's, a version of Tourette you have this recorder flute playing that you do. Could be. It's very odd. Very odd. All right there was just a Twitter alt-right crap storm! Everybody was freaking out about the stupid social justice warriors they're horrible I think we can see this. We came to a tipping point, I believe. A tipping point with unhinged and ungluedness Now we have heard a lot of unhinged and unglued behavior from mainly from what we deconstruct as the mainstream media Pretty much everybody right down to Shep Smith the Fox but he doesn't really come on glued but he's odd

1:15:53 But this one story, which is really a non-story... I think i'll tell you about the story first and then we can listen to just some unhinged going off on it. Was from Healthline. Healthline is a... I think it's like a web MD, they've got their doctors etc Is it more like natural news? No no no It's much more like a web MD And this article was medically reviewed by Janet Brito PhD LCSW CST And it's about LGBTQIA safe sex. It is a LGBTQIA safe sex guide personally I feel they should use the full acronym and if i were to review it as a medical reviewer, I would have disapproved because the acronym is indeed LGBTQQIAAPK So and I've been tracking this since it was LGB What's the K? Kink

1:16:55 Kink yes, that's enough. That is now official that's an official part of it kink It's like queer queer what's queer? I mean that's in there. Oh wait no it queers but no we don't know No, I'm sorry get the hose is every time you have no idea What queer isn't I don't either because it's not just gay guys which used to be queer now queer is something else now Okay well they are like to read I'm sure how it works But you can identify as it now So this is a very serious piece, and it does handle all angles of gender fluidity when it comes to copulating and having sex with each other. And you know lots of different parts and bits and there's all kinds of things that are relatively new or at least new to be talked about in public

1:17:42 And they say here, why we need an LGBTQIA inclusive safer sex guide. And that's actually for young children although I'm not so sure how young you should start with this and this is inspired by the GLSEN and the Advocates For Youth who seem a lot more concerned with Donald Trump than with LGBTQI issues. But in this guide it says traditional safe sex guides are often structured in a way that presumes everyone's gender, male female non-binary trans is the same as the sex they were assigned at birth or... Sex education resources often use videos pictures and diagrams as a way to convey important information though these images and videos have historically failed to reflect or provide information about same sex and queer relationships

1:18:29 These guides also often unnecessarily gender body parts as being quote male parts and quote female parts, and refer to quote sex with women or quote sex with men excluding those who identify is non-binary. Many individuals don't see body parts as having a gender. People have a gender, and as result... I know, stare with me, stay with me As result, the notion that a penis is exclusively a male body part and a vulva is exclusively a female body part is inaccurate By using the words parts to talk about genitals and using medical terms for anatomy without attaching a gender to it, we become much more able to effectively discuss safe sex in a way that's clear and inclusive. So for purposes of this guide, we've chosen to include alternative words for readers to use for their genitals For example some trans men choose to use the words front hole

1:19:27 Oh, you got to the front hole story. Yes! Or internal genital instead of vagina. Alternatively some trans women may say strapless or girl dick for penis This usage is meant for one-on-one communication with trusted persons such as your doctor or partner not for broad discussion In this guide, whenever we use the medical term vagina we will also include front hole as clinically recommended by researchers at the BMC Pregnancy and Childbirth Journal. So well a front hole does exist if you're a fully transgendered person from male to female I didn't know that's what they called it but the freak out

1:20:14 And yeah, it's like okay. Yeah yes a front hole is different from a vagina I got it and they actually had to post the whole separate Article no we're not renaming the vagina Some people are under the impression that health line is now using the term fronthole instead of vagina This is simply not true, and I just gotta play this Dana lash clip Now she is the you like her she's the NRA spokes spokeshole You know I'm talking about Yeah, I know her. You like her? I generally do. She's a little bit knee jerk. A little bit? A little bit knee jerk right wing. Okay so you've heard the story are you outraged

1:21:01 No, I don't think it's much of it. I wouldn't even done this story on this show but... ...I'm hardly outraged Well, I am doing just to show you how unhinged the right is becoming Ah! We got balance on the show finally Here is the tipping point. I think that we are now in a state full-on unhingenist across all dimensions Healthline says using the medical term vagina is not gender inclusive language Use instead front hole the guide states quote it's just you know that's already not true because that's not what is said they would they would use both words okay all right I'll let her place wait before you go back to it I was gonna say how is that front hole would have been in the mouth imperative for safe sex guides to become more inclusive of LGBTQIA and non-binary people. It's a thing

1:21:52 It is an actual thing. Healthline says it, I don't even understand all the letters that GDBDQB... This by the way this just lame for her to do this? I don't understand other letters yes you do you douche. You guys can't deal with stuff they say that you they say for the purpose of this guide we will refer to the female copulatory organ as the front hole instead of using the medical term vagina which is an actual medical term I can i just i need to just you mean move on to another no, i got it as a woman let's go f you for a moment because this is ridiculous No pun intended. I agree this do you did they not understand female? Anatomy here we go. Do they not understand female anatomy? I'm sorry But there's more than one

1:22:47 What is wrong with these people? I do not want some social justice warrior dude. How dare you tell me what to use in terms of a substitute for medical names for actual copulatory organs! Oh my gosh, there's more than one?! What is wrong with you!? If you take anatomy and physiology class if you don't have one then you don't get to rename it. Oh my gosh! I'm just trying to transition to another. But you know, no it's not happening because this is the kind of stupid stuff that social justice warrior particularly the dudes do The social justice warrior dudes Because they're the ones who are freaking out about this They're the ones who like well you can't call it that because I don't have one Yeah I know you don't

1:23:36 It's not like you just switch it on the outside and suddenly everything magically appears inside. And if you think that women only have one, you need to understand how basic function of female anatomy find out what a urethra is find out these things they're not the same thing The birth canal is They're completely, entirely different things. Which shows us that you have no business telling us women what to call our stuff! Heaven's this is where I can't deal anymore This is where I have left planet peace and I am out in the face. I am just done They're like oh well it's the same thing NO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE

1:24:26 What is the matter with you? Never go into medicine. People who think like this don't ever do that, you will kill a woman! From now on I'm just gonna call her Front Hole. I think it's just easier to remember. I think you should get some... There's definitely one or two ISOs in there. Oh of course i got the ISO. What does it matter with you?! That's my- I like that one. Okay. What does it matter with you!? I think that's the one. Okay well that's not bad And but all on false information. One woman who went nuts? No, no, no, this John the front hall thing it was trending trend front halls trending well it should It was on par with the animal crackers break out of their cages Oh that was a good one too This I mean...I don't have a clip of it because AP The Associated Press

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

Animal Crackers Packaging, Pennsylvania Bestiality Case

The Associated Press reported that Nabisco is changing the packaging of Animal Crackers to show animals outside of cages following pressure from PETA. This transitions into a disturbing news report from Clearfield County, Pennsylvania, where three men were arrested for over 1,000 counts of sexual abuse involving farm animals.

animal crackers· peta· associated press· bestiality· clearfield county· pennsylvania

1:25:25 Did an article you know like breaking news The animals on the animal crackers will no longer be in cages because it's cruel PETA force them This with what a setup what a great piece of native advertising. What a great great great Yeah, because it would make everybody I bought by the way AP do this John that's not news that's promotion It's old promotion and when I first heard the story, so should you go to the store and get a box of the old ones. They could clear inventory out almost instantly because they're all collector's items now. No kidding! Because in reality, if they made this change without announcing it would just be a package upgrade nobody cares and it was you know cartoons of animals in cages and that was kind of a dubious cage And then as somebody pointed out cynically on Twitter they said yeah whatever they do the kids are still gonna bite their heads off the animal first thing they do Oh thats right

1:26:25 Animal cracker, we have to rock against the crackers man because it teaches kids to harm animals. To bite the heads off. See now that's something I can get behind! I don't get behind the front hole And it's sad because the animals have all moved to Philly. Good evening, we're following a disturbing incident tonight in Clearfield County where Pennsylvania State Police served a search warrant after reports of animal abuse Our Alexis Wainwright has been following this story she joins us live tonight outside of the police barracks Alexis what are police saying? According to officials, there's no pleasant way of saying this. They say that these men have been having sexual intercourse with animals according to district attorney Bill Shaw This has been a part of an ongoing investigation into the abuse of animals

1:27:13 This is an unpleasant topic, but the facts are that we received a report of folks having sexual intercourse with animals farm animals down in Monson. Saturday morning state police say they moved into action for safety concerns of animal abuse at a home in Monson three men have been arrested Terry Wallace Matt Brunmaker and Mark Miniskoff all in their 30s and early 40's. They're going to be charged with sexual abuse of an animal, corruption of minors, recklessly endangering another person Police recovered several semi-automatic weapons at the home The DA says there was also a minor but they don't believe they were abused or involved They say they are still investigating to be sure I've been doing this for over 20 years

1:28:06 Then how's it corruption of a minor if no minors were involved? It's beyond the beside the point and I have heard in this report. So what's not in this is that there were so, I think they have over 1 000 counts of sex with animals they had a barn with a special setup so they could strap the animal to a gate and they could stand behind the animals and also there was a goat I'm reliably informed also not in this report but it's in the written reports. I am reminded of the classic joke from the 30s that appeared in the legman book rationale of the dirty joke one farmer goes up to another and he says hey you know what that fella Kinsey been saying about us farmers?

1:28:50 And the other farmer says, no what? He says us farmers go out and we're fucking goats and sheep and cows and dogs and snakes. And the other farmer says snakes?! Yeah... yes Wow okay The reason it's over a thousand counts is because they made video of every single time they did it Money! Money, money. This is a huge... Yes this is a huge business. Huge it is an international business International sex with animals now this leads me into an article an excellent article actually interview written in the Volkskrant in the Netherlands

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Content Moderation Trauma, Google Contractors, Berlin Office

An interview in the Dutch newspaper Volkskrant details the experiences of a content moderator working for a Google contractor in Berlin. The moderator describes the psychological trauma of viewing violent and illegal content, leading to widespread substance abuse and PTSD among staff. The hosts warn that similar moderation hubs are being established in Austin, Texas.

content moderation· google· facebook· berlin· post-traumatic stress disorder· volkskrant

1:29:45 It's very long and I'm not going to read it, mainly because it is in Dutch. I did run it through the Google translator which had to do eight times because they have a cap on how many characters they'll translate at a time. Word? Yes! This has got to be 20 thousand word interview. This is very very long. You can't just throw whole book in there and Google will have issue with that Well, actually do you square wait? I just want to mention this Okay If it's a newspaper article and you go on Chrome and you read it on Chrome You can hit the button. It'll turn it'll translate on the fly of the whole thing Yes except it doesn't because they have the GDR P Warning and that's when you when you when you do the click it in Chrome I did all that it translates the warning not the out not the article Yeah JavaScript crap anyway

1:30:42 The reason why I transition into this is because this article was an interview with a Dutch guy who worked in Berlin at a Google facility. It was a contractor, but it's a facility that whose entire job was to approve or disapprove of posts and videos for Facebook and you know the guy speaks on grounds of anonymity because of course he signed an NDA, cannot talk about it. He did any felt was really important because he says is what's going on first all its all minimum wage she was in Berlin he didn't know he was being asked to do something for Google they needed Dutch speakers so the guy goes to interview they never mentioned Google you know that they do just some basic questions then he goes back and

1:31:31 He's given a quote and he has to say is that hateful or not. He actually didn't have the right answer but no, oh okay I understand it wrong anyway long story short he's hired And there's just a couple of Dutch people, it is like the Tower of Babel in this office. There are people from all over Europe all speaking different languages and viewing posts and videos This is their AI. Yeah, I love it! It's the same thing that's coming to Austin. That's very important understand because... Yes, AI this is this is their artificial intelligence. They have people everywhere in little dark buildings at minimum wage trying to determine What is good and what does not and he says first of all? He says the Netherlands they are so hateful He says the hate and it's very Dutch to say cancer everything is cancer your a cancer woman you're a cancer child your Cancer job you everything is cancer And I know this because that is

1:32:30 The Dutch very easily say, krijgt de kanker. Ah, kankerhoer! So everything with cancer is a very, very odd cultural thing. He says but the worst is the videos... The child pornography violent rapes of 11 year old children I'm not going to read exactly what he said but he was very graphic in this. In Dutch? Yeah, again we and the translation is there. No, I am saying it's due to these are Dutch videos. Oh these are Dutch videos yeah they're Dutch video sure! But I think that the Netherlands has probably Pedopito bear central in the EU very disturbing it says and everyone at the Google contracted facility is drinking, is on drugs are with therapists have post-traumatic stress disorder they walk watching the video yes. It's so disturbing The guy says there some videos I cannot get out of my head

1:33:28 that's you know like the child rape videos. So they have to sit through this every single day and most of them can't stand it more than a couple weeks he was there for three months could not stand I was walking around like a zombie and he would take about a bottle of wine to work just to be able to get through the day, And here's my problem all Austin, Texas has been sold this bill of goods that we're gonna become the next Silicon Valley. That we're going to be who the tech Mecca when what is happening is Silicon Valley is sending not only thanks to John C Dvorak all their homeless people on buses to Austin they are sending the reviewers of these horrible videos who become

1:34:13 have post-traumatic stress disorder, are on all kinds of psychotropic drugs or on alcohol. They're walking around like zombies in our city on these damn scooters! I think you should go to the City Council meeting and bring this up with them rather than burden the show with your personal problems Come on this is good for the show what are you talking about? I am... so obviously that's my personal problem in Austin, but this is what's going on. It it's going to blow up someone is gonna commit some kind of heinous act after sitting in these rooms for days on end. Like being tortured yeah. I mean it is... It looks like the scene in Clockwork Orange where the guy's eyeballs are open and they make him see all these horrible things

1:35:04 It's it's when you read this Everything you can imagine that's horrible that needs to be translated and put into an American vehicle Newspaper well, maybe that's something that you want to take a shot at the translations not too bad. It's very very interesting It's its but this is going to get very bad very quickly I You can't. If what you say, especially internationally and not to mention locally with those jokers and wherever they were bumfuck Iowa was that what state where these two F words for you today? They were Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Dutch. And I'm surprised that they didn't associate Trump somehow with that story. It's a Dutch story they're not always about the folks crump is

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Off The Grid, Hearing Aid Tracking, Bluetooth Privacy

Adam Curry discusses his transition away from using a smartphone to maintain privacy. However, he discovers a new tracking vulnerability: his Bluetooth-enabled hearing aids broadcast a MAC address 24/7. He realizes that even without a phone, his physical location can be tracked by any nearby Bluetooth receiver.

off the grid· iphone· bluetooth· hearing aids· mac address· privacy

1:36:00 You know, it's very well respected intellectual lefty newspaper. No I'm talking about not the newspapers story but the original story about the bestiality. Oh! The bestiality oh... They had guns and Trump stickers and MAGA hats. Yes MAGA missed opportunity. I know it was a total missed opportunity they probably were Hillary voters. Anyway so while I was going through this rant in my head yeah I realized something really bad you know, and I'm just going to go into OTG for a second. Just as everyone understands being off the grid for me is just being a little more invisible to Silicon Valley and i have now with my new purchase we can talk about it later...I have now lived since the last show without an iPhone at all! No smartphone whatsoever everything has transitioned. I'll get to that. I thought this has been going on for over a month? Yeah but I was using the iPhone at home

1:36:56 For what? Oh, for all kinds of things. Just sitting on the couch you know because I don't want to have... Okay yeah but I will say again I don't want to reiterate this but i will which is that I have discovered years ago or recently I don't know when I discovered it where I could actually realize I discovered that if you sit around the table with a bunch of people and you want to use your phone to look something up, all you have to do is request it. You don't need a phone. You just say hey can somebody look up this? Can somebody look up that? And I've mocked these people for doing it and they still do it! They will look up anything because one of them always has the phone and they love looking stuff up for you

1:37:37 And I feel much more kingly. Yeah, that's great and you know but we're not talking about you You're not the typical consumer for today's world this is for other people And the mission I've been on is to be able to use as many services that i need, as possible with a browser. With a protected browser with as much turned off and shut down as possible which is just not possible in the app ecosphere That's why all smartphones are evil But I'll get to that...I have a review of the Surface Go if you're interested we can do that later

1:38:14 The thing that I realized is with all of my OTG, and I realized this yesterday. We're on the boat with a former New York banker. I take my hearing aids off because we're going to get in the water and do some surfing And so here we are were two dudes with our shirts off in an air nautique whatever it is And the music, I guess his wife was in the boat last. It's like ABBA. Like... Banker change this! This is not good we do not look very cool with ABBA you know Mamma Mia blasting. With our shirts off. I would have some judgments about this. Yes yes we have to get to do something so he was trying to connect his phone to the boats system through Bluetooth

1:39:04 And he can't connect. He says I see these, I see two Bluetooth that are just numbers and not a name Oh crap those are my hearing aids they're broadcasting MAC addresses 24-7! I literally have the target on my head Yeah you all you have to do is go for in between the two Bluetooth transmitters yeah that's easy this is horrible A robot could do it This is horrible...I'm a walking tracker This is very, very bad. Yeah this would be... And there's no way to turn it off! ...like you OTG guys. And there's no way to turn off the Bluetooth broadcast and the drone could pick it up like oh there it is there's an MAC address that's traceable. Luckily Bluetooth only really transmits about 30 feet max Yes To a store nearby who picks it up relays it off to the drone

1:40:02 You want to hear about the Surface Go? We got him. Well that's it, you never did make the connection you couldn't change it so was you two guys with their shirts off listening to ABBA? Well no we made the connection and quickly changed it to something else like you know dude rock music right yeah dude me yeah dude music anyway I got the surface go Yeah, the Surface Go which is the inexpensive Microsoft Surface which is about 500 bucks. It looks like a pretty usable little machine I love this machine and I didn't get the $399 which I think would be unusable for 4 megabytes of RAM. Not enough RAM you want to max it out yeah so that's the 8GB 128GB

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Microsoft Surface Go Review, VPN Geolocation Issues

The hosts review the Microsoft Surface Go as a potential "Off The Grid" device for those avoiding smartphones. They discuss the technical challenges of using a VPN, such as Bing and Amazon defaulting to the wrong language or country based on the VPN's exit node. Curry praises the device's portability and speaker quality.

surface go· windows 10· brave browser· vpn· amazon· bing· privacy

1:40:52 This is a question first question. I have haven't looked at one of these I was gonna go look at one never did Can you pull out the 128 drive which is really just a little thin card? I don't know and put it up I don't know if I buy you can put in us you could you can put in a separate SD card, but I died that's different Yeah No, I don't know about that all I know is this is the product Apple should have made this device It's it is fantastic. I feel like I went through all the guides online and locked down Windows 10 as much as I could, i'm not kidding myself of course And by the way in the process of that...I'm new to windows 10. I'm new to Windows But it's very interesting to see that with they did this Windows 10 and maybe was earlier with a you know different Windows version They've got all these slick

1:41:38 settings and control panels, but then sometimes you click on something to open up a different control panel and up pops the NT control panel. Right! The control panel from the 60s? Yeah it's like all this old stuff hiding under there. And believe me that is what you want I know that...and i really appreciate for what it is. The customization...I even customized the tiles on Windows 10. I never understood what they were for It's like, oh okay. And especially this thing goes into tablet mode in a very usable way it only weighs about a pound... Yeah that is what I kind of like about it. It's over a pound with the keyboard on. The speakers and sound are fantastic now

1:42:25 They advertise eight hours, no way on battery life. I think you get if you're really using it... If you're watching a movie sure if you're using it for three four or five applications at a time four hours max but still that's still pretty good and this is...I'm in love! This is great and this is me saying this lifelong Mac guy But once you really shut it all down and make sure that Windows Hello, put a piece of tape over the front camera. Once you've done all that stuff and locked down everything... I know you can't please don't email me! It's in the chip already

1:43:08 But Silicon Valley is having a much harder time tracking me. I'm using all their services with brave, I'm using the VPN... I want to install a pi-hole on it in the Linux subsystem which you can't do just yet for number of technical reasons This is the OTG device for people who want to be as invisible as possible For the tracking and tracing from commercial companies It's a great device instead of a smartphone So one of the policies of the show is to use Bing over Google. Yes, so I was using my VPN if dude you know just like just usually keep it on all the time It's a very good way of keeping certain kinds of worms and viruses from bouncing around and So I was using I changed the location once in awhile Just just to see what the speeds are and so I go to Mexico when I'm coming out of Mexico

1:44:05 And so I Bing something and then it comes in Spanish. Yes, not in Mexico, Spanish answers to everything? Yeah So I use Google's fine you know they got some hidden cookies says hey this guy is not in Mexico you know doing that and so meanwhile...so I go back and I go to my normal VPN settings which is not in English-speaking country usually the United States Canada or something like that And every time I hit Bing, it still puts me in Mexico. Oh really? That's a cookie. They got some cookies and said the guy is in Mexico and leaves me in Mexico! There's one thing you need to look out for sometimes if...I've had that google.co.mx Sometimes your browser will auto-complete that after you visited at once

1:44:49 Oh that's another problem i don't want to even discuss that idea. It's another issue! Why are these guys, here's the thing you're using a vpn, this is a pet peeve I haven't written about it but will, I'm using a VPN for a number of security reasons I just think there's a better safer way to go and What is Amazon all of a sudden think I'm in the UK when i'm not? Hello, Amazon. I am not in the UK it's presumptuous if you to think that I am when I specifically trying to type in amazon dot com. I'm not typing amazon dot com dot uk and its not being completed by the browser

1:45:27 When it goes to Amazon.com, it says oh he's coming in from the UK let's put him there and so it moves me It's not the browser doing the autocomplete its Amazon moving me to the UK I don't want to do business with an Amazon UK site Yeah but you understand why it is happening technically They're making assumptions that when you make an assumption you make an ass out of you and me I'm not going on the internet for them to make assumptions. Okay, I'm sorry! I will call Jeff Yeah... yeah? Yeah.

1:46:14 I'm gonna Bing it. Yeah, you're gonna be good Go to being it's not IO this is our jam right here John It's pretty damn useful. I've just been gotten into the habit of just binging stuff yes Just bigot now to change this topic This is a thing we get there OTG thing out of the way Oh, he's just gonna do one one more clip but not really OTG but about the chips and Well, we can do that later. What about the chips? Now I'm interested! Oh there's a company who...I thought were doing it just purely for promotional reasons because they are an chip implant company They're not They implanted a whole bunch of employees with chips in their hands so you know it's handy So you can go through this turnstile by using your hand instead of your card Here is the CEO You know what's good about it Adam? Is that I don't have to worry about losing it

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Microchip Implants, Three Square Market, In-Body GPS

Todd Wesby, CEO of Three Square Market, discusses his company's program to implant microchips in employees for office access and computer login. The hosts express skepticism, suggesting that such technology will eventually be mandated by insurance companies for health monitoring. They also critique a report on "in-body GPS" for drug delivery.

three square market· todd wesby· microchips· rfid· insurance· medical tracking

1:47:12 Here's CNBC with the CEO of the company and you're not far from the truth. Last year, Wisconsin-based company Three Square Market announced its plans to install rice size microchips in its employees. The implants can be used to scan into the office building, purchase food at work and login to computers there. CEO Todd Wesby is back with us to talk about how the program is going so far. So Todd what has it been like? How many of your employees have chosen have the chip implanted and how many do you have to go? Yes, to date we have a hundred ninety six employees and 92 of them are chipped to this day. And what's it been like in terms of their experience has anybody said I want this thing out of me or...

1:47:58 When they leave, do they have to get it out? We've had one employee that's left that had it removed. However the vast majority of our employees absolutely love the conveniences that having this chip in their hand really brings to them I'm sure you've been asked this a million times Todd but Why not a badge? Why do you have to implant... ...a piece of equipment into people. Listen this guy's rationale, why not a badge John can you think of a reason why a chip in your hand would be better than a badge? You lose your badge If it can be lost it will be lost and the very first day that I had this done actually at a late night interview

1:48:36 and I forgot my ID card. And I thought, ah! I got a chip in my hand and when i showed up at work I scanned my hand and I was led to the front door so it's really a huge convenience factor that the employees seem like with it You know we all carry around our phones these days We don't really lose those too often Why not just have people use their phone for this kind of thing Because this is much more convenient you can do a lot more really with this than your phone as far as I can log into my computer with this which i do every day. I can log into my phone with it, uh... I can pay for items if I forgot my credit card or my phone, I can login to work Notice the theme here? It's all about forgetting People are happy to have this today Are they afraid that you're tracking them beyond work

1:49:26 No, we have had you know some normal pushback which comes with anything you do however What we've really done with this I think is You see a lot of discussion now about implants and how they can you know take your heartbeat get your blood glucose levels you see uh... amazon just hiring a top-notch doctor you see walmart filing for patents on this what we've really done is sort of made it acceptable or brought it in the forefront where people are now talking about it and that's what they're going to do thats how they bring it into medical looking at the benefits that can be used for person

1:50:05 10 seconds how easy is it to get out? Basically you just punch your the your hand with a needle and you can push it right out the same hole. Oh great Just push it right out the hole I didn't know what I was doing answering the question actually had the voice guys voice down So I think this guy is a shill and it's very obvious, and i have a little short follow-up clip. This is coming and its going to eventually be mandated by your insurance. IT engineers have come up with a way to detect the exact location of global positioning devices anywhere in the body. The ingestible implants can be used as a replacement, say for tube cameras for diagnostics but scientists say using wireless technology to track the devices to the centimeter they can detect heart rate breathing movement and

1:50:57 And they say by directing the in-body GPS, they can attach drugs for delivery to specific places to treat diseases like cancer without impacting healthy tissue or organs. GPS is a misnomer here has nothing to do with GPS it's just you know you just have a sensor you can see where the chip is and the body it's not GPS morons. Well obviously they have to have it so its got a little propeller on it so that they But that's how it's gonna happen. It's like, oh yeah because we can check your heart rate and why wouldn't you? It's safe! It's good for your health come on and by the way your premiums go down

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Elmo Toy Death Threats, Programming Glitches

A news report features a "Talking Elmo" doll that began saying "Kill James" after a battery change. The hosts discuss whether this was a malicious programming prank or a technical glitch. They use the incident to illustrate the potential dangers of complex automated systems, including driverless cars.

elmo· fisher-price· programming· glitches· ted kaczynski· driverless cars

1:51:35 Yeah, well that would be the gimmick. The premium's going down. Well we predicted it eight years ago that this would be related to insurance for cars with GPS trackers... And what could possibly go wrong? Nothing I can't imagine! Well it reminds me of a clip I have about what could possibly go wrong with these great technologies that we employ now that I found out how old this clip is I found in a compilation of crazy clips But it was probably a couple of years ago when there was an Elmo toy that had been reprogrammed or reprogramed itself after a battery change. Anyway, play this clip. Everyone's going to be talking about this weekend. A mother is on her son's talking Elmo doll and it stunned to hear what comes out of its mouth you will be too.

1:52:27 That's right, the Elmo doll is saying kill James. That's the name of the boy who owns the Elmo knows your name doll You plug it into the computer so it will repeat the childs name while the doll ran out of battery So mom replaced them that when started making death threats It's not something you would think would ever come out a toy but once I heard it was just kind of distraught Even worse, James began repeating the phrase so his mom had to hide the toy. Fisher-Price makes the doll and says it will issue a voucher to replace it is also examining Elmo to figure out what went wrong and looking at other toys to find out if they are bloodthirsty as well. Thinking there's a dude named Ben somewhere laughing pretty hard. You think? I like this! This is why you can't...I mean this is why it..this is why Professor Ted is right.

1:53:20 exemplifies the problems you'll have with all these things. It's vandals, dudes named Ben who are fed up or where they're just irked or they think it's funny or there's a million possibilities to do this sort of thing. This does not... Dahl had them It was programmed to say kill. I mean, that didn't dream it up itself so it was killed whoever killed James and it was done by some programmer. After a battery reset seems like the perfect opportunity reboot. Yeah reboots this new default yeah. I love it yes all the stuff is susceptible to this including driverless cars I might add

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Facebook Trustworthiness Scores, Verizon Firefighter Throttling

Facebook is reportedly developing a trustworthiness rating for its users, which the hosts compare to China's social credit system. In a separate story, Mendocino County firefighters are suing Verizon for throttling their data during a wildfire. The hosts argue that net neutrality would actually prevent the priority access the firefighters are seeking.

facebook· social credit score· verizon· net neutrality· mendocino· throttling

1:54:07 Yes, and Facebag just as a late-breaking story this was everywhere they are within their analytics set I guess there's social graph dynamics. They are rating trustworthiness of every user on the system sound familiar? Yeah, what I mean it does sound familiar but what are you referring to? It's like a social score if you can be trusted. Oh yeah social... exactly Like China. Exactly! China where they can't get a job You can't get on the railroad train Yep What is your social score on Facebook

1:54:49 You could either be a zero, I think the scale is from zero. It'll be the FISA of social! Yes, FICA. FICA? Why do i keep doing that?! I know it's FICA but I just keep saying FISA Is it FICA or FICO? I think its FICA... FISA No, that's the FISA court! Oh FISA Court right right right no we're talking about FICO FICA is something with taxes, FICO is the... FICO score. Exactly! This has the part and the fact that... FICO SCORE!!! The fact that these guys are building a rating system on your trustworthiness of every user That's not what this thing's about. This is shameful that they're doing this

1:55:38 I'm not going on Facebook, i'm not getting an account on Facebook so that I can communicate with my grandmother. So we can both end up getting scored for trustworthiness? What's grandma gonna think when she sees it? Why your trustworthiness is down Bill! I don't know should I be talking to you anymore?! What you will notice In modern life, you won't. But what I've noticed in modern life is when you do not use certain things such as... ...I no longer use a smartphone You're locked out of a lot of things Now i'm not sad that I can't use the bike or the scooter? I'm not sad about that? Because you wouldn't use them anyway Right but I cannot use it And there- I think you can predict if they hang around long enough There will be a time when someone is asked What's your Facebook score

1:56:28 Or Facebook may not make certain things available to you. That's probably how it'll start now You have a low score you cannot join this group, you watch I'm not here do that just say you watched me This is obviously what's gonna happen But I think we would the law system will do some damage in the other route in the other direction For example, I think those bikes that you need out of smartphone for I think you can sue over this I'm being denied use of this public service because they don't use a phone? Yes. I would sue them, sue them! Somebody sue them! Well the Mendocino firefighters are suing. They're suing Verizon

1:57:12 This is very odd story. This is a very sick story because they were using up to 25 gigabytes of data and then the minute you hit that cap on your unlimited bandwidth, we know this is a lie Verizon then slows you down to like zero almost and so they're running into problems and Verizon can't even get it Get their system to just give it to him. No, no, they have to spend an extra $2 a month and get on this other plan We'll grandfather this in do you have any friends and family? I mean that's what they're doing And I'm thinking all the while net neutrality anybody

1:57:53 Like net neutrality is gonna solve this problem. No, no my point would be in net neutrality these guys would get zero preference no priority for them Oh that's a good point and now they want priority They want priority over every other person. This place is burning to the ground we need priority! No, no, but the stupid fire department joining a net neutrality lawsuit. They don't get it! It's exactly the wrong thing to do you're going to get legally the same as everybody else, you will have no preference even though you're fighting a fire... A FIRE! No preference same data I just do not understand that logic this is a great example but they've gotten it all wrong there's only about ten guys I know that understand this correctly

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Russian Hacking Claims, Microsoft, NSA Cybersecurity Playbook

Microsoft claimed to have foiled Russian hacking attempts targeting the U.S. Senate and conservative think tanks. The hosts analyze a cybersecurity promo featuring Debra Plunkett, formerly of the NSA, which encourages the use of encrypted messaging. They question the authenticity of the "hacking" claims, noting that many were later downgraded to simple phishing attempts.

microsoft· russian hackers· spear phishing· nsa· debra plunkett· dnc

1:58:46 Everyone's been sold a bill of goods on this debt neutrality thing. Yeah, you know why? Trump! Now before we go off this topic because you're talking about the Facebook rating explain to me why Microsoft I have a Microsoft story Oh weird Microsoft story play this and then I want to just discuss it for a second Microsoft foiled all latest account You know all of your clips are skipping today at the beginning do you doing something different on your recording process I noticed this too. In fact, they have to edit them a little bit. I don't know what the deal is with the skipping thing Did you do any... did you use different program? No Different computer? Everything the same They're not all.. no! No everything i'm doing is online and for some reason Audacity is not

1:59:33 picking up the fridge it's skipping at the beginning I have no idea why all of them are skipping Microsoft foiled the latest attempt by Russian hackers to infiltrate US politics ahead of November's midterm say it again? It started off saying Microsoft failed. Oh, foiled! Okay, got it. Microsoft foiled the latest attempt by Russian hackers to infiltrate US politics ahead of November's midterm elections The tech giant announced today that it had removed fake versions of the websites Of the U.S Senate and two conservative think tanks A so-called spear phishing campaign It said was mounted by the same Russian group responsible for meddling in the 2016 election

2:00:16 Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov denied that Russia was behind the attack. We do not know what hackers they are talking about, we do not know what is meant by influence on elections. We hear confirmations from America that there was no influence on elections who exactly are they talking about? Microsoft's president said there were no signs the hackers were successful in obtaining users credentials What is Microsoft doing taking down sites? Yeah, I don't know. That that way caught the story didn't really think much of it But I did also is Microsoft doing what is how does Microsoft have the ability to take down sites? And why are they doing it? I don't own this store Why these site and by the way was determined later as the Chinese that did these sites not the Russians What's up with that well They did first it went Russians then it went out of Chinese We found it was the Chinese and then they changed a little Chinese when maybe some Russians they

2:01:14 They can't get this Russian thing out of their dunes. But this was part of a whole bunch of stories, including the DNC like everyone freaking out! Oh we were hacked again! We're hacked! And now they retracted the story... Get timecode for me. They retracted the story and they said oh no it what we weren't hacked it was a spear phishing campaign Which you know, but of course everyone jumped on this. Oh we're hacked were hacked were hacked Here's the odd thing I was reading about this story on I want to say it was ABC ABC news calm and they had a video in the video that played above the story It had a little bit too. It was really it was a promo and

2:02:09 For some outfit that is helping campaigns not get hacked And I'll set this up because I cut out the pains are not getting hacked well so You wait until you hear this it's showing a guy coming into a clearly a campaign headquarters and everyone's like oh shit bleep-bleep your computers going up Oh my god, because they were hacked and someone got some bad information about the campaign. And you know It's obvious that this guy did something unsafe and always call everyone's freaking out and oh Our campaign is going down the tubes because of this hack and here's the rest of the promo What's good

2:02:57 Every campaign is at risk of getting hacked. You might be the weakest link. If you don't want to put your candidate, your campaign and yourself at risk listen to Debra Plunkett She was the director of information assurance at the NSA Take responsibility Use an encrypted messaging service The longer the password the better Beware of phishing attacks Keep your devices secure Our democracy is in your hands So take good care of it In case you didn't memorize all of that, it's all here in the cyber security campaign playbook. Check it out online Now did you know that was apparently some woman from the NSA?

2:03:43 Let me hear her advice again assurance at the end s she says M by the way maybe it's not the NSA Maybe it's the MSA Which is some other outfit, but she looks official formation assurance at the N S a Responsibility use an encrypted messaging service use an encrypted messaging service which Apple can then do Unlock on the iCloud. Okay, great Thanks good tip next the longer the password the better the longer the password the better I think there's some dudes named Ben who would like to disagree with that beware of phishing attacks Keep your devices secure keep your thanks for the tip

2:04:20 Our democracy is in your hands. So, okay thanks... What? Our democracy of Ameri- our democracy's in your hands because you left your phone on the table?! I think this is a DNC or some kind of You know everyone's worried about these local elections and stuff being uncovered And this is intended hey cover everything up be secretive no transparency! Our democracy is in your hands so take good care of it In case you know, it's just I think he said M s that's what it sounded like to me too. Yeah I'm sure why she's not from the NSA They don't put they don't have a bunch of spokespeople that show up but they but they sure made It sound like it and when you see her She's kind of a Loretta Lynch looking type lady. Yeah, like straight out of Central Casting Spook yeah, yeah understand

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Miss America Controversy, Gretchen Carlson, Cara Mund

The Miss America organization is facing internal turmoil as reigning queen Cara Mund accused leadership, specifically Gretchen Carlson, of bullying and silencing her. The hosts discuss the political shift of the pageant and the allegations that Carlson is using the platform to promote her own involvement in the Me Too movement.

miss america· gretchen Carlson· cara mund· megyn kelly· bullying· me too movement

2:05:16 Well, let's just run the offbeat stuff. I got by got the one left this one kind of a side story I mean I thought it would if it wasn't for all this other Manafort and Cohen stuff This would have been a bigger story. This is the story of that of the Miss America contest falling apart because the organization is being destroyed by Gretchen Carlson yes And it's a very funny story, but the backstory is quite good. Isn't she the former winner who now wants all women to wear a paper bag on their head? Was that her...? Yes! Pretty much... Wear overalls and coveralls and a paper bag for the contest. So she's apparently a horrible bully, just a troublemaker, no good

2:05:59 And she's the one who brought down Roger Ailes and won all kinds of money from Fox. It's now dubious, I'm really questioning some of this stuff now after hearing this...and the only reason it makes me suspicious is that this was an interview with a couple women bitching about her and her partner running the Miss America operation on Kelly's show. And Kelly worked with Gretchen at Fox for a long time and seemed to welcome these two, so I have to assume even though Kelly didn't chime in with something because Kelly is not the one who would admit to ever being bullied...I just found this fascinating. Let me start with you Suzette. I know that you say you read Cara's letter and were shocked and appalled but not surprised why not?

2:06:49 Not surprised because I've had some background on Gretchen. Gretchen has been bullying for a long time, actually she's bullied my sister here Heather Whitestone there were some incidents in the past that she's bullied Our current office in Atlantic City, five people resigned in the office. The head of the foundation which was a former Miss America resigned there were two miss Americas on the board that resigned there were to other state title holders that fired that were fired suddenly this person has taken no responsibility for the way she's treated our current Miss America. For Cara Mund to write a five-page letter explaining through her year how she's been treated is appalling and as a mother, Gretchen is a mother what would she do if her own daughter were being bullied like that? Cara has come out and said that the new leadership has made clear to her there's only one Miss America and it isn't me

2:07:51 said that all the major press was reserved for Gretchen, that the social media of Miss America was used to promote Gretchen. That she had three talking points she was given. Miss America's relevant Gretchen started the Me Too movement and Gretchen went to Stanford. Absolutely, she hasn't given her any chance to stand up and speak She's actually paid $10,000 dollars to help her with media training which she didn't need She is a Brown graduate, she is a business graduate The reigning Miss America So she has no problem convincing an audience on what her platform is She hasn't been given a chance even to speak

2:08:31 When is the next competition? Is it before the midterms? Yes. There you go, there you go! It's just like the MTV Awards it's all gonna be virtue signaling and it's all going to be political Good. For the show! It's good for me. It's great, it's great for the show we love that. That's what we want. We do have a few people to thank for Show 1062

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Associate Executive Producer Credits, Birthday Shout-outs, Peerage

The hosts read the final list of donors and associate executive producers, granting "karma" for various personal requests including health and job searches. They announce a new title for Sir Zachary as the Baron of Bluff City and acknowledge several birthdays within the "No Agenda" community.

peerage· birthday· karma· bluff city· alex jones· potholes

2:09:11 starting with Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles, and their Viscount of Eastern Washington or a buddy that's usually sends note on Starfleet. No note this time. One two three four five is his contribution and he said no jingles know nothing. Peter Turner in Footeville Wisconsin 109 Eric Eric plain old Eric in San Diego California $100.33 Ian Field, parts unknown to UK 100. Zachary Gilbrecht in Cordova Tennessee 100 and he's got a title change coming up and happy birthday. Dude named Muhammad Ali.

2:10:05 He also wishes everybody a happy Eid Mubarak. He wants to goat karma at the end, we'll do that for him. Goat karma coming! Melchior von der Decken in Czechoslovakia... Czech Republic? There is no Czechoslovakia anymore. He says, gentlemen living the life of a freelance are constantly on the verge of being broke but I want you two to go on giving us the best podcast in the universe. Cheer us from the beautiful Czech Republic! Thank You Mel that's very nice of you. 808 another boob from Sir Herb Lamb he says last 2 shows were fantastic. Yeah and one third boobs from Steve Purcell. Boobs be hanging today in Stoughton Wisconsin

2:10:54 And he needs some jobs karma for his daughter. We'll put that at the end with the goat karma, yeah Luke Rainer 77 dot 7-7 sir Brian Kaufman 7575 from Scottsdale Arizona Donald Napier 66 dot 6 Dame Carol Ann Chase of the East Hatchet Branch. Ranch. Pueblo, Colorado. Ranch not branch ranch 59-59 in Pueblo and I do want to read her note. I turn 59 tomorrow she actually wrote a note in I'm gonna read the note she wrote in instead of the one that's put there. You guys rock, thank you for the best podcast in the universe have a monthly subscription but wanted to send you this birthday donation my 59th birthday which is soon as on the list is on August 23rd so I was born in 1959 thank you for all that you do to bring sanity to the universe I believe it's possible that even extraterrestrials tire of the M5M and listen to your podcasts! Fact

2:11:54 That's why it's the best podcast in the universe not the world, the universe. Of course we know this and she finds Adams OTG segments enlightening There you go there you go and she does want some karma for her daughter-in-law She got cancer needs some chemo and will add at the end of cancer yeah, of course of course a bunch of things they're going on Anyway, she gets her 59th birthday. She had it in on time! She was worried sick and wasn't going to get out of bed. We'll put the quantum mechanics at work once again

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2:13:22 5510. Andrew Cantrell in Terrigal Beach, Australia... Andrew needs some staying off the booze karma of course okay but that it's a combined karma looks like coming up Anonymous 51 and deducing for anonymous you've been de-douche'd This is interesting he's got an interesting note i guess i should read it and now we have a popeye chicken that is essentially a bank you cannot come in contact with.

2:14:00 employees because there's a plexiglass wall with cubbies and doors. You open the door, put the money in and they put out the chicken after the transaction is completed just like a bank. Welcome to your future! Not all banks are that way by the way. The mechanics bank I use is not that way at all This is reference to Koreans being accused of racism for protecting their employees Nonsense! The Popeyes is African-American owned and run And it goes, she's a Latina millennial dudette named Ben in the defense industry. And we got some Jobs Karma here. Please give me an acting jobs karma so I can get my big break out from behind this desk thanks for cleaning my amygdala new drinking game take a shot when uh

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2:17:16 You've got karma. Today it is the 23rd of August 2018 Corey Cotton celebrated yesterday Carol Ann Chase turns 59 today Ryan Hedum celebrates on March 12th Peter Turner says happy birthday to his son Phillip. He turns 10 today Sir Zachary will be...uhhh....you see, he says happy birthday I think to Michael Lopez? No! Sir Zachary's birthday is on the 25th and Michael Lopez is celebrating today And Marvin Britton also known as Sir Stavart Iron Man says Happy Birthday to his dame and we say the same from all of your buddies here at The Best Podcast in The Universe

2:18:09 Title changes One title change today, Sir Zachary becomes the Baron of Bluff City and we congratulate him with that as he reached yet another milestone in our peerage. You can find it at itm.im slash peerage or dvorak dot org slash peerage dot h-t-m in the proper way it should and thank you all again very much from your hosts We did promise goat karma and you just gave regular karma. Sorry You've got karma, thanks for keeping me on my game Yes, I got a note from the same person who told us about it initially Apparently the six-week cycle at the FBI is being reinstated they're starting it back up again

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

FBI Six-Week Cycle, Security Clearances, Geoengineering

The hosts discuss the "six-week cycle" of FBI entrapment cases and the financial benefits former intelligence officials like James Comey and Robert Mueller receive in the private sector. They play a clip of John Brennan discussing "stratospheric aerosol injection" (SAI) as a method of geoengineering to combat climate change.

fbi· james comey· john brennan· robert mueller· geoengineering· sai· climate change

2:19:08 Oh, good for them. So for those who don't know we were told this a while back years ago FBI has a six-week cycle they need to entrap some kind of schmuck a dummy on the spectrum and it probably should be in jail because he's so stupid. Arrest them on terrorism charges after they give him everything they need, and just honeypot them and that's how they keep their budgets and keep the FBI who looks pretty bad right now...FBI not looking so good though that would make sense if they start up the six-week cycle again so I guess we'll wait for one and then will count the weeks so there should be something coming soon

2:19:48 You heard it here first a lot of people emailed us about the clearances Issue a lot of people I told you a lot about producers have clearance Typically half of them typically after you leave said job where you have clearance. You no longer have clearance It's taken away and that's for the schmucks if you're the elite, you get to keep it and Holy cow There's a lot of money on this great article Comey Let's see, just to give you an idea. Mueller after he left as FBI director was Senior Vice President of Lockheed Martin and General Counsel He was the top lawyer at the largest contractor in the US Comey made 6.1 million dollars outside of his government jobs These guys are doing just fine

2:20:46 And I think they have enough actually so they shouldn't worry about it. But it's definitely a money issue for these people and then I don't see why they should get the clearance, I know everyone understands this story I think we all get it. They should get their clearances taken away if the regular guy gets his taken away when he just quits his job, they should just be... you're not working there anymore what do you need a clearance for? I agree What are these guys that are just talking heads on CNBC or not CNBC MSNBC or CNN what do they need clearances for yeah actually have a cool old Brennan clip as a flashback now i have two i have a Mueller clip and i have a Brennan clip

2:21:24 Oh, old flashbacks. Which one do you want to hear first? The least the one that's not as funny Okay, here's Mueller. Director Tenet has pointed out Secretary Powell presented evidence last week that Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass destruction willfully attempting to evade and deceive the international community our particular concern is that Saddam Hussein may supply terrorists with biological chemical or radiological material Remember how sure he was and we knew it? Oh, it's for certain. You can't be wrong! He's a neocon And here is Brennan now this one I had never heard this This is at the Council on Foreign Relations where you want to launch these ideas Another example is the array of technologies often referred to collectively as geoengineering that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change

2:22:32 One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI. A method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun's heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels. This process is also relatively inexpensive. The National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly. As promising as it may be moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community

2:23:16 On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects. Such as ocean acidification because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. On the geopolitical side, technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions of the world at expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations others might seize on SAI's benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives. This is not a breakthrough technology!

2:24:07 No, it's not. It's a way to kill the planet Let's put a bunch of crap in the air and you make it code everything so we'd all die But why okay? So but the important part of the clip is not so much the SAI for you know geoengineering for you know to save the world from from global warming no it's the weather modification this is the CIA director what is he talking about global warming? He's not. He's talking about making it rain baby, he's got his own rain stick up there and he said it he admits it we got this people don't like it

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

John Brennan Treason Walk-back, Helsinki Summit

Former CIA Director John Brennan is criticized for walking back his comments that President Trump's behavior at the Helsinki summit was "treasonous." The hosts suggest Brennan "got spanked" and is now attempting to redefine his terminology to avoid legal or professional repercussions.

john brennan· treason· donald trump· helsinki· vladimir putin· ray mcgovern

2:24:48 Well, it's disgusting. That's a disgusting clip you're welcome I do have since we talked about on the last show I just wanted to play it the full Brennan walk back on treasonous and the reason I think is important Oh yeah, we talked about we need to have a clip here. Yeah, I got the clip Brennan isn't trouble That's what Ray McGovern says. Yeah, he is in trouble everybody is excoriating him for saying treason, treason, treason... Even Clapper! Yes so the guy isn't troubled and he sounds like he's in trouble He is the way he sounds in this two-minute clip when he's walking his back This guy got spanked by someone something went down and he's like oh holy crap I gotta change this because the big mouth ain't so big anymore You were starking even a little bit scary

2:25:39 in your criticism of his behavior. You said it rose to treason. I think that also, the M5M they really believed that he was all over you had treason yeah Brennan said it! Brennan's treasonous! He's treasons! Brennan said it and he is going to go to jail! There was nothing short of treasonous In this current controversy, that specific comment has been singled out by a number of people as a comment that maybe by you crossed the line. That was maybe... Crossed what line? By freedom of speech? No I'm not saying that! You don't have a right to say it but do you stand by that consideration and can you explain, can you elaborate what you mean by treasonous? It's very serious allegation. I know what the Russians did in interfering in the election

2:26:23 I have, you know...I'm at 100% confidence in what they did. And for Mr Trump to stand on that stage in Helsinki with all the world's eyes upon him and to basically said he wouldn't-he doesn't understand why would the Russians interfere in an election? He has given Mr Putin and the Russians a pass time after time after time. And it keeps referring this whole investigation as witch hunt, as bogus, as..you know....and to me This was an attack against the foundational principle of our great republic, which is the right of all Americans to choose their elected leaders. And for Mr Trump so cavalierly just dismissed that... Yes sometimes my Irish comes out and in my tweets I did say that it rises too and exceeds the level of high crimes misdemeanors and is nothing short a treasonous

2:27:16 Because he had the opportunity there to be able to say, to the world that this is something that happened. It should never ever happen again and if Russia tries at all to do it they're going to pay a serious price for it I don't expect Mr. Putin to acknowledge it, he's gonna deny, deny, deny but for the President of the United States to continue to prevaricate on this issue, I think does a great injustice and a disservice to the men and women of the intelligence law enforcement community and does a great disservice to citizens in the United States that is why i said there was nothing short of treasonous I didn't mean that he committed treason but it was a term that used nothing short of treasonous

2:28:01 What happened, Brunny boy? Bullshit! He got in trouble. Yeah well he's gonna- he's in trouble There's something up with that guy. I want to get back to the Cohen thing, because I do have some things about... I had Laney Davis another one and forgot to put this in the earlier part of the show but it's so funny because it makes again makes no sense I think my theme here was none of this made any sense and this is The Wood Knot apparently Cohen would not accept a pardon.

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Michael Cohen Pardon Refusal, Media Dishonesty, Paul Manafort

The hosts analyze Michael Cohen's claim that he would not accept a pardon from President Trump. They critique NBC News reporter Hallie Jackson for stating the White House is "not ruling out" a pardon for Paul Manafort, arguing that this is a speculative and dishonest form of reporting.

michael cohen· paul manafort· pardon· nbc news· hallie jackson· fake news

2:28:47 Did you know about the payments? Later on I knew, later on. And they weren't taken out of campaign finance that's a big thing that's a much bigger thing did they come out of the campaign they didn't come out of the campaign They came from me Solicitation is a crime of directing someone else to commit a crime That's true even if the person doesn't follow through with the act So here if they can find additional evidence to support what Michael Cohen says I think he could very well have a criminal violation against President Trump Michael Cohen says he broke the law at the direction of his then boss. But the press secretary said the president's not in trouble. He did nothing wrong, there are no charges against him. The press secretary pushing back- He did nothing wrong, there are no charges against him. As for Cohen, his attorney says he is ready to share whatever he knows with whoever wants it. That was odd, was that their edit? Yes! You'd think it was mine wouldn't you?!

2:29:40 That was their edit. to put it together in a repetitious way to make her look like an idiot. The law at the direction of his then boss, but the press secretary said the president's not in trouble. He did nothing wrong there are no charges against him. The press secretary pushing back he did nothing wrong there are no charges against him. This is borderline dishonest reporting

2:30:18 Oh, wait until you hear the next clip. Let me finish this one. As for Cohen his attorney says he's ready to share whatever he knows with whoever wants to know it Is he hoping for a pardon from President Trump? Not only is he not hoping for he would not accept a pardon He considers a pardon from somebody who has acted so corruptly as president To be something he would never accept No! Okay Now that's just stupid and it doesn't make any sense, but okay we're gonna go with that. But then I got talking about dishonest reporting now this is Hallie Jackson on NBC and i want to point out something in this next clip which is to me extremely dishonest reporting part two oh okay but the white house is not ruling out a pardon for Paul Manafort now convicted of tax and bank fraud. The president seemingly

2:31:10 The White House is not ruling out a pardon for Paul Manafort. When did this come up in the conversation? Was the White House ever asked about a pardon for Paul Manafort, they probably were I think they were and nobody said anything It's not as though, you know... You can't say- They're mind reading. They're not ruling out is bull crap! You don't know that they're not ruling it out because the question has never been asked She didn't ask it and they didn't say well we're not ruling it out They did not say were not ruling it out Is this what we call fake news?

2:31:47 I think it's fake news and this is NBC. But the White House is not ruling out a pardon for Paul Manafort, now convicted of tax and bank fraud The president seeming sympathetic praised his former campaign chair Unlike Cohen he tweeted Manafort refused to break make up stories in order to get a deal. Such respect for a brave man! The developments exposing a series of contradictions in a scandal that surfaced in January when the Wall Street Journal reported on the payment to porn star Stormy Daniels just 11 days before the election A month later, Cohen acknowledged he used his own money saying neither the Trump campaign nor the Trump organization was involved Yeah...that's really bad

2:32:30 It's really bad. It's the mighty NBC, everybody! NBC does some of the worst anti-Trump artificial constructions. The White House says they're not ruling... They're not saying anything! It's gonna boomerang back on them eventually This is this it's the way the universe works you can't keep doing this people get hip to it Well yeah that we get hip too because we hear it all the time We're looking for it. No, we're just hip. We're hit man. Yeah man You done with Manafort? Well, that's Cohen again I do have a Manafort clip. New rule, no Manafort and Cohen clips anymore! I'm done. I got one more which i'll move off to the next stage...I might leave it in the lineup in case the conversation goes in a certain direction. And now its time for your sexual harassment update Yes there's a new twist It's a crazy one Overnight shocking new allegations against one of the Me Too movements most prominent voices

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Asia Argento Sexual Assault Allegations, Me Too Movement

Asia Argento, a prominent voice in the Me Too movement, is accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old actor, Jimmy Bennett, in 2013. Reports indicate she paid Bennett $380,000 to settle the claim. The hosts discuss the hypocrisy within the movement and the potential involvement of Harvey Weinstein's associates in leaking the story.

asia argento· jimmy bennett· anthony bourdain· harvey weinstein· sexual assault· me too

2:33:31 The New York Times reporting Italian actress and director Asia Argento, the former girlfriend of Anthony Bourdain arranged to pay $380,000 to Jimmy Bennett after the actor claimed he was sexually assaulted in a California hotel room in 2013 when he was just 17. The payment arrangement allegedly made not long after Argento herself publicly accused Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein of rape and sexual assault The new claim, detailed in documents sent to the Times through encrypted email says Argento was both a mentor and mother figure to Bennett. And the two were intermittently in contact as he grew up. Bennett now 22 began acting at age 6

2:34:14 He was cast at age 7 to play Argento's son in the 2004 film The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things. You will not trash this house! The documents characterized by the Times as a legal agreement between lawyers describe Bennett's version of the encounter They have not been seen or verified independently by NBC News. On May 9th, 2013 Bennett says he arrived at the hotel with a family member for a reunion with Argento after asking the family member to leave so she could be alone with the actor Bennett says Argento gave him alcohol and a series of notes she had written to him on hotel stationary The documents say Argento then kissed Bennett removing his pants and performing oral sex before having sex with him

2:35:00 Later that day, she posted to Instagram, happiest day of my life. Reunion with Jimmy Bennett The two had lunch, but later Bennett began feeling quote extremely confused mortified and disgusted. According to the New York Times in an April letter addressed to Argento confirming the final deal, the payment is characterized as quote helping Mr. Bennett. Argento became a leading voice in the Me Too movement after telling The New Yorker that Weinstein raped her in 1997 when she was 21 Weinstein faces multiple charges of sexual assault and rape, none including Argento. But he denies all allegations of non-consensual sex." Never has the Dutch phrase fit any better on this one... Wat je zegt ben jezelf met je kop door de helft? You are what I say.... I am what you say you are! Exactly. Can you imagine being 17 and that happening to ya'?

2:36:00 Well, I think most guys you know there's a lot of jokes going on around about this Yeah, and I'm not gonna enter into that no. I could but I'm not going to But what this was kind of it? I think this was a little weird like especially it was like a mom-son type thing in edifice Come on weird than your girlfriend or something that can make a 17 year old go a little wacky maybe yeah, I think so but This is seemed to me that they knew about this. This happened five years ago, so somebody knew... How about Weinstein? Hollywood talks. It's like the farming community it's like the tech community. Weinstein has friends. Weinsteen has friends he got wind of this and one of them and he's got associates that are still you know bunch of creeps in Hollywood. This is Hollywood what do you expect

2:36:50 and somebody got wind of this, and then they blew the lid off it. Got a hold of the kid or something... They did something to get this to come out. To embarrass this woman. But here's what I want. Where are the psychologists? Where are people talking about this type of sexual harassment? I think this is important! It should be discussed Because exactly what happens if you don't, then you get the jokes. Yeah I'd let her blow me! You know? Yeah exactly. This is... Which i avoided It's disappointing it's really disappointing there's no analysis as oh well there's a story shut up about it because yeah Trump! I think of the opinion that Weinstein's getting off on this not getting off in this sexual way Oh yeah He's getting off Well his star witness has been discredited

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

Koch Brothers Strategy, Steve Bannon, Impeachment Politics

A spokesperson for the Koch brothers' network argues that Republicans should focus on the economy rather than Steve Bannon's strategy of making the midterms about preventing impeachment. The hosts disagree, suggesting Bannon's approach is a effective way to mobilize the base. The show concludes with a final summary of the "Trump Rotation" and a musical montage.

koch brothers· steve bannon· impeachment· midterms· republican strategy· outro

2:37:36 Yeah, one of them. An important one I'll say. And this concludes your sexual harassment update. Excuse me Adam but the rioting mob of angry dog owners and their dogs they've just set fire to the building That means it's time to go but if you have another clip we can do it Yeah, I would have run a clip. Well we got the wine replication story will push that off. This is a very short clip of a Koch brother front man comes on one of these shows and he discusses what you should do or what you shouldn't do in the upcoming campaign if your Republican or Democrat

2:38:26 And he drops this little bomb in there about Steve Bannon, what Bannon's approach should be. Because I've noticed there is a change in the philosophy about the impeach Trump movement. They kind of backed off a little bit on it because I think Bannon is right but play this Koch brothers This guy is backed by the Koch brothers. Once we now Tim, welcome good to see you again So let me start by asking you about something that former White House adviser Steve Bannon said That Republicans should make their midterm strategy about preventing impeachment Do you agree with that? No, I think that they're better off focusing on the issues. You know this economy how well it's doing They've done some good things there and then what they're gonna try to do for the American people moving forward Uh-I don't think it makes much sense to go into scaremongering on personal things like that. I Think just the opposite. I think Ben is right

2:39:20 The Democrats are backing off on this as much as, as fast as they can. I've noticed that because the idea is yeah they should and they are. The idea is that you want to bring the impeachment thing up so it's in the back of people's minds and you want to give them the vote Democrat. That was the whole idea. And then when the Democrats take over the House we've outlined this a million times. We're going to put it in an essay And then when the Democrats take over the House, they're going to start talking about impeachment again. And then are going to get nowhere because they don't want to get anywhere and because it can use it as leverage to run against him in 2020 while we can impeach him but we can vote him out.

2:39:57 So it's just a political strategy. So Bannon is right, is to take and leverage the Democrats' strategy about impeaching the president against him to get the vote out! To save the president! And this guy's an idiot. How come we're still doing podcasts and not consultants for every campaign? I mean seriously... We're wasting our time. We are, as long they pay us. As long the public approves we'll keep doing it because we're obliged and when you tell me when you tell us that we changed your life makes it all worthwhile Yes donate yes I get a I get value do you if you got value consider supporting us Dvorak org slash na

2:40:54 And I believe that I'll have some road stories to talk about. Going to be in Chicago for a couple days, back at home base for the Sunday show but for today i'm coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state fema region six and all the governmental maps in the five by nine Cluedio in the common law condo In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i am going to ask Adam if he's going to leave the iPhone at home during this next trip Yes. John C. Dvorak. Yes. I am and im very apprehensive but Im gonna do it Report on Sunday. We'll see Until then Adios Mofos

2:41:46 Dumb, dumb, dumb honey what have you done? Dumb, dumb, dumb it's the sound of my gun Just stuff. I've been up to his little castle and um... He calls me up and I said, Donald you can't use Dream on him! That's for causes not campaigns And he did anyway. He did anyway. And i had to sue him. I got Dean out of sue him. Send them a letter cease-and-desist so I've been through that shit. Donald's got my song. Donald's got my song My world has come undone It makes me feel so wrong What can a musician do?

2:42:42 It makes me come unblue They say that Clinton get elected And Donald walk away in shame But now that he's the president and he's got my song I'm left with an exploding brain If you look at President Obama, he had a massive campaign. Much bigger thing. Had incredible successes. Five convicted felons are now linked to the president of the United States But that's not even a campaign campaign! Did they come out of the campaign? They didn't come out of the campaign...they came from me The president has employed thousands of people in his lifetime He tweeted about it I don't know if you know but

2:43:34 I tweeted, but they didn't come out of campaign. In fact my first question when i heard about it was did they come out of the campaign? Because that could be... A little dicey. And they didn't come out of the campaign, and that's fake. I think you served quite well. He broke the law. All the stuff he knew. All the stuff. He broke the law. We're hoping that he will get some help from the American people so we can continue to tell the truth.

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