Episode 1036 · Friday, 25 May 2018

Braking Algos

From federal rulings on presidential social media habits to the rise of British internet verification, the digital landscape is being rewritten by judges and algorithms alike.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1036

About this episode

A federal judge ruled that President Donald Trump cannot legally block Twitter users, citing First Amendment violations and suggesting the use of the mute function instead. Meanwhile, the United Kingdom moves toward a mandatory Porn Pass system requiring citizens to obtain 16-digit verification codes from local news agents. These developments highlight a growing tension between government digital presence and the surveillance of private citizens.

James Clapper defended the FBI's use of Stefan Halper as a confidential informant during a media tour for his new book, while Michael Caputo alleged the Trump campaign was targeted by a honeypot operation as early as May 2016. At the University of Southern California, over 200 professors demanded the resignation of the school president following the George Tyndall sexual misconduct scandal. Elon Musk faced a Consumer Reports rejection of the Tesla Model 3 due to emergency braking distances, prompting a first-of-its-kind remote firmware fix. In China, the U.S. State Department issued a health alert after a Guangzhou consulate staffer reported sonic sensations similar to the unexplained ailments previously seen in Havana.

Sir Gian and Dame Mello joined the ranks of the No Agenda knighthood during a formal ceremony celebrating the value-for-value model. The segment on millennial dog culture explored how dating app users increasingly treat pets as surrogate partners, while the inventor of Neuticles explained the thriving market for silicone canine testicular implants.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

Nest Thermostat Terms of Service, Age Restrictions

The terms of service for Nest thermostats include a requirement that users must be at least 13 years old to operate the device. The hardware requires a constant internet connection to function properly, leading to concerns about reliability and corporate control over home climate systems.

nest· thermostat· terms of service· internet connection· age restriction

00:00 You're taking me away from the dogs, man. But okay... Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday May 24th 2018 This is your award-winning Gimpo Nation Media assassination episode 1036! This is no agenda Teasing the talking tubes and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas In the Cluedio. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i have no pants that work None! I'm John C. DuBois It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! Now this is kind of odd because we have been through the entire pan exercise on this show

00:39 And you should have boxes. It's unbelievable, here I got pen after pen... Oh they don't work? What i'm going to start to do is i'm gonna start to read the name You know these are all sample pens that you get at conventions Of course why pay for an actual pen that would be crazy Why when they're giving them away Yes! I still have my Energel metal tip 0.7 millimeter ballpens yes those are nice Do they still work yeah Well, let's see what we got here. You must write a lot I've got one from solar frontier that people works That one works. I'll use the pen audit here we go everybody This is the big show you've been hearing about glad you made it where we audit pens Yes We're gonna put their brand name on the pin seems to me they should use it put it on a good pan It's not quite as as nutty as the terms of service. I received for my thermostat and

01:38 Was it a nest? Yes! The terms of service for turning up the heat or turning down the temperature are insane. You have to be 13... They're not taking any responsibility for this thing actually working And you have to be 13 to operate it What?! It's in the terms of service, yeah. You gotta be 13 if you're not 13 don't operate it is dangerous You violated the terms of service. Yeah, you do. The warranty is void! That's right whatever yeah and they can just shut you off if they feel... The thing doesn't work without an internet connection so what good is it then? Well its going out I don't care what to put the building thinks of it It's out I don't want that thing here Oh as soon as you pull it out there gonna be a beep beep beep Internet connection lost! Internet collection lost! Room 47B!

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Federal Court Ruling, Donald Trump Twitter Blocking

A federal judge ruled that President Donald Trump cannot legally block Twitter users from viewing his feed, citing First Amendment violations. The 75-page judgment suggests that the President should use the mute function instead of blocking to resolve lawsuits regarding public access to government communications.

donald trump· twitter· first amendment· federal judge· social media

02:33 Who knows what'll happen? Yeah, I pull it up. It's on this is switch Oh man and off yes all you need well Actually, I think I have it here Yes There's all kinds of stuff happening on the interwebs that you'll need to Permissions for and you have to sign off on and you need well license we've been talking about a an internet license coming for A long time a podcast license, and now the president even seems to be under legislative rule from the Supreme Court We have a news alert now for you. Let's get to Julia board actually not Supreme Court, but I love the Love the little floor director going here. We go or something that Julia

03:30 A federal judge saying that President Trump cannot block Twitter users from viewing his feed, saying that President Trump blocking users from viewing what he tweets on Twitter is unconstitutional and would violate the First Amendment. This comes after a federal judge had encouraged a settlement suggesting that Trump mute rather than block some of his followers on Twitter in order to resolve lawsuits so they're ruling now is blocking those followers is not allowed. That is really interesting and it's a 75 page judgment! Couple of things I find this to be ludicrous because first of all if somebody blocks you, you can still see their tweets yeah you can just click out yeah you log out don't even you don't even have to do that I think these days there's an interface we can say show it to me anyway

04:27 No. Okay, you would know something else you would know I would there is a short to me anyway thing that has to do with you blocking somebody if you block them and you want to see their tweets you can show it to me anyway but if the So right so that's the other way around got a link. I got it Got it yeah, but you just log out and you just look for Trump And you can read all the trumps tweets, so what's the big deal? I love that the judge says no You should just mute them though The whole idea is well It's a new age so at least at least we're laying down the law whether whether it seems logical or private This is a private

05:11 operation, Twitter's not owned by the government. They're not required... Hold on a second! Now here's a thought for you so if The Wall Street Journal No, if WAPO does an interview with the president I have a constitutional right to read that and they can't paywall me Oh that's interesting Seriously you cannot read Washington Post even my cartelizer has a hard time getting beyond the pay wall So I think that's unconstitutional and we should file a suit. Class action against Bezos or not. Yeah, the argument against Twitter is the same as the one you just made Well...I'll have to look up. I started reading it this morning and then I realized there was 75 pages like okay some other stuff Why is it so long? Because its ludicrous! That's why It shouldn't have to take seventy-five pages to explain The guy who has that job, that judge

06:14 He's just stalling it. This is his job, he likes writing. I think it's a she actually... He wants to be a novelist? I think it's a she. Is it a she? Okay the She Judge wants to be a novelist. The She Judge! Yeah well but it's worth considering if that's unconstitutional then I have a constitutional right to read everything that is being printed about him and that should not come at a cost That's actually a really funny idea. I'm here all week. Send it to Roger Stone! Call Roger Stone... In the UK, meanwhile this is great we've been hearing about this for a number of years and now it seems to be getting extremely close to being codified into law in Gitmo Nation East in the UK as you will now have to pick up a 16 digit code from your local news agent

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

United Kingdom Porn Pass, Online Age Verification

The United Kingdom is moving toward codifying a "Porn Pass" law requiring citizens to obtain a 16-digit code from local news agents to view adult content online. This legislation would require retailers to collect and retain identity documents, raising significant privacy and surveillance concerns among the British public.

united kingdom· porn pass· age verification· privacy· surveillance

07:08 or place where you buy your smokes, 7-Eleven basically UK version to be able to view pornography online. It is called the Porn Pass and if this legislation is passed then everyone will need to have a code to be able to watch pornography You'll get it at your local news agent who will also be deputized who rest you on the spot. They will be deputized to collect and retain identity documents from the nation's pornography viewers! Well, hackers can crack that pretty quickly... Of course but forget that what is going on? Why are these people why are you accepting that UK? That just made I'm flabbergasted they're okay with this. They're okay with everything

08:05 They're okay with the cameras on every corner and in their houses and pubs. It's, um... And garbage cans, the garbage can cameras. Yeah yeah you're not doing it right. You're not separating your recyclables properly. There is a fine. So over the weekend there was the Miss USA contest. Yeah, and you had promised you wouldn't do this anymore so I presume something... No, I said I was retiring. I didn't promise. I said it was re-I was stopping. Oh. I didn't promise anything. Okay. They just said that wasn't going to do it anymore You're like Susan Lucci! Exactly. The Susan Lucci of pageant podcasting. I kept it very short only got three clips total. Okay. And a few comments. I'm loving it baby

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Miss USA 2018 Pageant, Final Question Analysis

The 2018 Miss USA competition concluded with Miss Nebraska, Sarah Rose Summers, winning the title after a final question regarding protest signs. The top three contestants, representing Nebraska, North Carolina, and Nevada, addressed topics ranging from sexual assault awareness to homelessness in their responses.

miss usa· sarah rose summers· miss nebraska· miss north carolina· miss nevada

08:50 So there was, the last newsletter I showed and examined. You know Trump used to own this operation that's owned by Miss Universe and every time they do a show they do some nasty thing to Trump as though they hated the previous owner like they...I don't know what what the point of that is. It was grabbing him by the pussy! And so uh..they had this Stormy Daniels look-alike you saw the news? Yeah i saw the news. I didn't know that this had taken place. I didn't hear much about it on Very poorly promoted ever since Trump left. But you saw the picture of this girl and someone suggested she's MKUltra. Dead ringer for Stormy, yeah. Thin, she's not fat like Stormy is. 16 if she's announced? Yeah anyway so they had that I thought that was just a slam against Trump let's put her in there and start off the gown competition with her walking out there

09:50 But the one that won was this perky Miss Nebraska who reminded me a little bit of Danica Patrick. Oh, from the Miss Go Daddy? Yeah, same kind of look only she's a bleached blonde and always smugging and saying cute things and winking and curling up her nose and cocking her head doing a shimmy. She never...always in motion flirting with the judges. And I thought she wasn't going to win because that this final competition when they had their...I'm gonna start at the end and work backwards

10:31 But the last question, this is a long clip but this is the last question. Three women were left there was Miss Nevada who looked like Marta. This is an inside material for us. Okay I know exactly what she looked like and then Miss North Carolina who was kind of I don't know she's a multi-culti looking woman there's a lot of those in the competition. In fact I was stunned that the Bleach Blonde from Nebraska won it all, but I was thinking if you listen to these answers to this one question they did the one of the we're gonna all ask you yet. The same questions three of them were going to actually exact same question and then that's going to be the final question they had a question before that where they asked each other questions it was lame. I didn't clip it by clipped this and I'm gonna tell you why I think Miss North Carolina was going to win. I would have put money on it after this

11:26 Alright, you ready? I hope so. I hope so! This is the winner right off the bat in Miss Nebraska Here's your question You're on your way to a march and someone hands you a blank sign and a marker What do you put on your sign and why The correct answer is, of course... I'm not gonna bullshit you. I just want a beer I say speak your voice. I don't know what march we're on our way to in this hypothetical situation, but no matter where you're going whatever type of march it is you're obviously on your way to that March because you care about that cause so go speak to people when they have questions communicate with them listen to their views also that is one thing the United States said we really need a focus on

12:27 Thank you Nebraska. So this year they do all the same question for all the top three candidates? They took first they did all the they had a top five or top five and they did questions for each of them All written by the other girls. So it was Gotcha, and that was dull so then they decided at the top three They're gonna do the one question for all three women And it was like and it was also a neutral kind of question except for the fact there is a protest going on So I you know But she, well hers was, oh I'm sorry. Hers was hear my voice or say your voice or something. It made no sense grammatically but that's what her answer was. Okay please remove North Carolina's headphones! North Carolina please come join us. You ready? I am i was just jamming out to Pitbull Here is your question

13:25 You're on your way to a march and someone hands you a blank sign and the marker What do you put on your sign, and why? I would put on my sign, your body your rights. As someone who was sexually assaulted as someone who stood up and fought against my perpetrators i am all about marching for your body for your rights nobody ever has the opportunity or has the right to touch you to drug you to do anything to sexually assault you harassed you that's never acceptable Okay, please remove Nevada's headphones Do we have a backstory on her On her assault. I was never revealed in the show But she brought it up a couple of times and she was this victim sexual abuse. Yes victim

14:18 And I'll tell you before, listen to Nevada. She has her story she's also had a thing that was a problem for her. Well she got to top the victimhood and that's a tough one! She tops it because both her and North Carolina have these issues And I thought, now let's explain what I was thinking after this is over. Why I thought North Carolina was gonna win but play Nevada. Join us! Are you ready? So ready Alright here's your final question You're on your way to a march and someone hands you a blank sign and a marker What do you put on your sign and why

15:04 I put on my sign, let's work together to eliminate homelessness. There are approximately 500 thousand people suffering from this situation on a given night and in my state of Nevada we are ranked number three in the whole nation for having that much amount of homeless youth I want to be an advocate and continue to raise awareness for the situation because if i experience this firsthand, I can use my platform to raise awareness for these youths. To never give up on their dreams no matter your circumstance Your past does not define your future You can make anything happen If you believe Because they can too! Absolutely thank you Nevada Quite frankly Im a little shocked

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Miss USA Pageant Rigging Allegations, Sarah Rose Summers

Observations of the Miss USA broadcast suggest potential rigging, noting that winner Sarah Rose Summers was given a standalone interview segment before the final results. The broadcast also featured a contestant resembling Stormy Daniels, while the winner's use of the invented word "connectioning" drew scrutiny.

miss usa· sarah rose summers· pageant rigging· connectioning· television ratings

15:55 Something harsher. What do you mean, harsher? You in terms of the signage or in terms of the politics of it? Yeah well no in terms of what happened Well the thing is I was thinking as I watched this and I have to say they backed off a little bit The women by the way just as a generality since like we come we'd do these executive comments that we do well We let's let's let's do this just so we don't So we don't get into trouble Well, it probably won't get us into trouble Executive mode. Here we go, we're in! We're in! We're good. All the women were gorgeous and I mean with maybe one or two exceptions but they weren't even noticeable

16:40 I mean, even the Stormy Daniels look-alike was dynamite looking. And it was just...they did a very good job of finding women. I don't know how many real competitions there were that just found them and put them in the thing and then they had maybe two or three real girls at the end. So there was no complaining about that. And they all looked good in everything. There was, you know they couldn't express themselves that well necessarily and most of them didn't get to talk. There was a moment at the beginning where they all came out and gave us a bunch of bull crap. In fact I'll play that clip before I get into my little analysis A bunch of bull crap where they put woman after woman after woman

17:23 up there to talk about, oh we're here to give voice to women as this is the reason for the competition. It was nonsense! Play this clip. got it. And I will say, the show doubled it more than doubled its ratings 2.9 million viewers compared to 1.1

18:20 No, no wait a minute. This is at 0.1. Well the point is that They would this beauty contest. I'm sorry, I was wrong it's down incorrect is from 2.9 to 1.0 about it. I didn't even see the advertised once but the point of this beauty contest is not to give voice to women as an insult for two all women for them to say that you know they should have one of those three answers should have been because we had You know, it's important you're going for what you stand for listen to each other then we had

18:58 Your body is your body and what was the third one homelessness, where was the DACA chick? We should, one of the answers should have been as an undocumented American. That's what I was expecting to hear. That would have been interesting but they didn't pull that off if we had... I was under the distinct impression after listening to those three answers that the woman who had been sexually assaulted and they all could have been Miss USA it doesn't there weren't i mean they were different looking... Of course! They're all qualified winners John

19:37 So I thought that the, I thought Miss North Carolina would get it because of her background of being sexually assaulted. There's less chance for getting involved in any hanky-panky that would embarrass the club. Yes! So i'm saying oh well they're gonna pick her because they know she's not gonna fool around or you know do a Harvey Weinstein or anything and so And so then I was stunned that they gave it to Miss Nebraska, although I should have remembered what we've talked about in the past which is that these things are rigged. Political?

20:16 And, well they're political but this wasn't that political. But they were rigged remember the girl who saw the list of winners and how they're going to progress and then they sued her for seeing the memo? Well I realized early in the competition out of the blue Miss Nebraska was picked out for a stand up! And the other ones didn't just for no reason?! All out of the blue, they played... I've got the clip here. This is a standalone ramble she was given the opportunity to give about half an hour before their winner was announced. Welcome back to Miss USA!

20:58 You're about to go out there in the evening competition. First of all, congrats on top 10 Thank you so much I'm honored very honor now you want to make a mark this is your time to shine So do you have a strategy for the evening competition portion? I think that's just it My time to shine take away a strategy what for the evening gown competition a Strategy well, I thought whole thing put one foot in front of the other and Think about it for a moment and then I'll keep going. Just it, thinking of it as my time to shine taking the time I can on this stage to connect with these empowered judges selection committee is amazing and then just connection through the cameras as silly as that sounds

21:40 She uses, she creates this word connectioning. Oh I miss connectioning! First of all she's... wait back a little bit more. She says empower and she uses the word em- she throws all these buzzwords in there. She throws the word empower to the judges. These empowered judges. I mean she's just completely off the rails but when she says connectioning i'm rolling my eyes And she won. Yeah, she won! Isn't the prize like a scholarship? She needs one! My time to shine taking the time I can on this stage to connect with these empowered judges selection committee is amazing and then just connection through the cameras as silly that sounds all my amazing friends and family back home they couldn't be here so thank you guys for watching

22:33 I think she meant to say connecting but it came out connectioning. Well, she says connectioning through the camera and then she catches it and says as silly as that may sound so she is sharp yeah But they throw this in there out of the blue in the middle of the show and it's I love it That is that to me should have been that's where you may start making your bets. I like the connectioning You know what, I think What I think is why don't we have a bearded lady in the competition? We need to have at least one guy who's transitioning

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

University of Southern California, George Tyndall Sexual Misconduct

Over 200 tenured professors at the University of Southern California signed a letter demanding the resignation of the school's president following a scandal involving gynecologist George Tyndall. Tyndall is accused of decades of improper pelvic exams and making racially inappropriate comments toward female students at the campus health center.

usc· george tyndall· sexual misconduct· gynecologist· university of southern california

23:12 Where's that? They didn't they do that in Miss Universe last go-round. We haven't had that in the United States shows Oh, I don't recall probably happen this is bound to happen some trends Yes a genderish person my connectioning should be connected baby Let's do some connection tonight when you say oh That was that and it was a dig it was you know this I'm glad you did that It always tickles me I do like it and it kind of helped us get into the me too Hashtag me to segment Well, I guess we could open the this segment properly. I guess if you want to do that And now it's time for your sexual harassment Update yes two items for me today on the list The biggest one although not the way we perhaps expected it You called meet hashtag me to an academia many moons ago

24:10 And now 200 tenured professors from the University of Southern California, your neck of the woods. Oh, SC with all the babes on it! That's a known fact in the PAC-12. Pac 12? Yeah, Pacific 12 is the conference that the University of Southern California is in or Universities of Spoiled Children. It's a sports reference okay got it They've signed a letter, so 200 tenured professors from USC have signed the letter calling for the school's president to step down amid an unfolding scandal over how the university dealt with sexual misconduct allegations against a longtime Student Health Center gynecologist. There it is once again! The gyno... What a job! Gynecologist at USC I'm just gonna leave that one there Yes Well i'm just saying

25:08 USC has been reeling in recent days from a LA Times report detailing accusations that gynecologist George Tindall for decades... I don't have a female gynecologist at that school. Good question, for decades conducted improper pelvic exams on female students and made sexually and racially inappropriate comments can this go all the way to Lucy? To Janet Napolitano Isn't she the head honcho of the whole kit and caboodle? No, no. She's at the University California is a completely different system Okay, so this is PAC 12 though. Yeah Well not know the University California System has sorry two of its major schools in the pack to all the rest of them are not sorry I asked but But how about that huh 200 professors and this has been going on for decades with his douche

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

Asia Argento, Cannes Film Festival Speech

Italian actress Asia Argento delivered a powerful speech at the Cannes Film Festival, stating she was raped by Harvey Weinstein at the event in 1997. Argento claimed the festival was Weinstein's "hunting ground" and warned that other predators still present in the film community would be held accountable.

asia argento· harvey weinstein· cannes film festival· sexual assault· me too

26:02 It's just like the, uh... Like the sports girls. No it's like the guy from University of Michigan State Yeah! Yeah. That's these schools Oh my goodness And then we have Con taking place Or maybe just took place I don't follow that too closely An Italian actress... That's funny Italian actress Asia Argento Got up on stage and here was what she said I have a few words to say In 1997 I was raped by Harvey Weinstein here at Cannes. I was 21 years old This festival was his hunting ground, and I want to make a prediction Harvey Weinstein will never be welcomed here ever again He will live in disgrace shunned by a film community that once embraced him and covered up for his crimes Even tonight sitting among you

27:08 There are those who still have to be held accountable for their conduct against women, for a behavior that does not belong in this industry. Does not belong in any industry or workplace You know who you are but most importantly we know who YOU ARE and were NOT going to allow you get away with it any longer I thought she was gonna ask him to stand. If you have raped anyone, could you just stand up and show your presence here tonight? All right! Good! We got a room full of people. Who is this? Asia Argento. I don't... European actress. Italian. Well good for her! Yeah, I think this is the best statement I've heard. I love saying we know who you are because there's more of ya in this audience Damn nice well done Asia

28:05 Well done. There's a good right now out by maybe it's not brand new but is still floating around is the front line about Harvey Weinstein It's quite quite good do you have a clip? No, I don't have a club I just you just I wouldn't wasn't thinking of clipping it so it's a long one-hour exposition It's very difficult to clip from that show Okay Do you have anything else for the segment or can I close it out looking at my list and Just have Trump stuff, which is how odd kind of funny. I'm gonna close it out then okay wait wait Yeah Let's find out who this woman is this Asia book of knowledge Who is Asia Argento? Okay, that's worse well yeah so far so good It's

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Raspberry Pi AI Project, Open Source Voice Assistants

A custom-built AI assistant running on a Raspberry Pi utilizes the open-source Mimic system for voice synthesis and local speech translation. The project aims to create a functional alternative to commercial assistants like Siri or Alexa, though current performance remains slower due to on-board processing limitations.

raspberry pi· mimic· open source· ai assistant· voice recognition

29:13 What book of knowledge Wikipedia Asia Argento, maybe she's not so known I don't know you sure is plugged in yes Here comes she just talked to us. She said it here Argento is an Italian Hold on why are you talking over it? Did you not hear it oh you can't do anything now zip hmm well that's odd Oh, I see why my mistake. I'm sorry ah hold on let me turn that up book of knowledge Probably fucked it up already idea the thing is I wanted to want really wow you with my incredible expertise of integrating Of integrating the system and it fails all you out me yeah, I'll try one more time book of knowledge Wikipedia Asia Argento

30:19 Now the thing is it has to go out to Wikipedia. Let me look up Asia Argento I don't know what that means She had it earlier Asia Argento is an Italian actress, singer model activist and director Well there you go Oh yeah That explains everything Hey, it does do height in case you're interested. So there's a plus to it all okay then ask how tall that woman was I don't think they probably won't have that but I'll try just said it book of knowledge How tall is Asia Argento? She's measuring her she must be

31:07 No, I don't think she has feet six inches five feet six inches there you go. Okay It's a little slow because it's home-built you know it's running on a raspberry pie its but this is your Raspberry Pi Yes This is exactly what that is and is it slow well? You know it's not going to Amazon and Google it has to translate the speech on board which is still pretty amazing for a raspberry pie Yeah, well now where'd you get the voice from? The voice is from open source system called mimic and... Can you have her read a poem so we can listen to what she's... Well no how about important things like book of knowledge. Book of knowledge send karma Huh I don't understand Shut up You might have to say that in different way Book of Knowledge Send Karma There we go You've got karma

32:11 But we can do other important things such as book of knowledge Read pre-show checklist, please work. Sorry I don't understand Please clap book of knowledge Read my pre show check list. I don't understand learning new Google and Apple Siri you guys hey You're winning nothing to worry about book of Knowledge

32:52 Read the Trump rotation list. I gotta make this thing faster, that's for sure. List trump rotation has four tasks on it orange cheeto orange clown cheater broke Okay and you can add to it too so if it goes a little faster It would be okay, I think Yeah, well I think you should keep working on that and roll it out. Roll it out to podcasts everywhere! Get some VC funding! No no, I'm starting a Patreon what are you talking about?

33:33 The idea is there, I'm working on it. But you know it could be handy for things like when Dwayne Melanson comes in and I haven't seen him yet...I could just ask her to play his jingle! And we can wait about the same amount of time? Well that'll get better that'll get faster you just don't like modern technology. I don't actually. I know you don't. It's like the Nest The idea is I'm eventually not pulling modern technology out of the house Eventually, I'll just be able to do the show with her. That's that's my yeah, that's my dream there was some guy on the BBC that came on and he was a investigative reporter and And I mean comes on the show so his name Peter something can't remember his full name but he

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Ukraine Election Interference Allegations, Michael Cohen Payments

Reports suggest that the Ukrainian government may have paid Michael Cohen to secure a meeting between President Petro Poroshenko and Donald Trump. Sources in Kiev claim that Ukrainian officials, fearing a pro-Russian Trump administration, leaked damaging information about Paul Manafort during the 2016 campaign before attempting to repair relations.

ukraine· michael cohen· petro poroshenko· paul manafort· kiev

34:25 I think it's Peter. He had this crazy theory that he says is completely, does make some sense. He says that Cohen the crazy lawyer was all the money a lot of the money that showed up in his pockets was from not from none of us are Russians and most of the action going on has anything to do with Russia it has to do with Ukraine And he says the Ukrainians are the ones who leaked all the Manafort stuff because they knew about it, nobody else did. Because they were betting on Hillary So well, just before we do that they were also complicit in the DNC server hack cover-up because the CrowdStrike guys are Ukrainian and they immediately pinned it on the Russians. Absolutely! Here's a little more because that triggered me to start listening for Ukrainian stuff what you brought up and so listen to this

35:25 Michael Cohen already stands accused of taking money from US companies to get access to the White House. When those stories broke, apparently it was Mr Cohen's bank records obtained by a lawyer for porn actress Stormy Daniels. Here we are down the usual Trump story rabbit holes already It was then said there were some foreign interests involved. At the same time I was doing my own reporting in Kiev, talking to senior sources there people who said they had direct knowledge of the matter and they said that the foreign government in question was Ukraine's. There were cutouts it wasn't done directly by the government of Ukraine but my sources told me payment

36:01 payment was effected by the Ukrainian president to Michael Cohen to make sure that President Poroshenko of Ukraine got more than a humiliatingly short photo op in the White House, he got something he could call talks. What's been the state of relations between Ukraine and the US since all this was said to have happened? Well it has been an interesting arc during the election campaign. The Ukrainian government I think along with a lot people thought that Hillary Clinton would win Donald Trump wouldn't be the victor there. And the Ukrainians were particularly worried by what they saw as the pro-Russian tone of Mr Trump's remarks, so according to my sources anyway they intervened, they leaked material harmful to Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager, Mr Manafort had resigned if that is what happened it was a disastrous miscalculation and that led to this scramble apparently to get a proper sit down with Mr Trump

36:51 I have to say the Ukrainian presidency, while initially refusing to comment on this has now responded to a local journalist calling this a blatant lie. Mr Kerry himself denies it and we should stress here there's no suggestion that Mr Trump knew of this arrangement or took any money from this arrangement. Paul Wood thanks very much indeed for joining me. That's what I'm thinking the plot thickens well the plot thickens for sure with the uh, With the spy gate stuff that's been fantastic to hear all these different people and their stories. I have a whole series of spy gate clips me too Conclude good we can go do a clip off clip off Clipoff

CHAPTER 10 / 43 Discussion

FBI Spygate Investigation, Trump Campaign Infiltration

President Trump has demanded an investigation into whether the FBI or DOJ infiltrated his 2016 campaign for political purposes. While some journalists describe the use of informants as standard procedure for investigating Russian interference, the administration characterizes the actions as an unprecedented abuse of law enforcement power.

fbi· spygate· rod rosenstein· trump campaign· hallie jackson

37:33 As they said at the brief, sorry. Yeah it the joke was good but stumbled on the punchline bad delivery. You gotta pull a string you got to go okay so I have the long version of the full Monty of the thing that was done i think is on ABC or NBC Which should be... FBI, FBI Spygate. FBI Spygate NBC this will be the one we can start with. Backgrounder.

38:08 The president demanding an investigation into whether his campaign was infiltrated for political purposes after reports that an FBI informant spoke to a number of Trump campaign members. NBC News Chief White House Correspondent Hallie Jackson has the story Spotted late today, the Deputy Attorney General walking into the West Wing. His agency battling with his boss The President hereby demanding Rod Rosenstein find out whether or not the FBI or Department of Justice infiltrated or surveilled the Trump campaign for political purposes in 2016 I think it would be very troubling

38:45 Millions of Americans that took place. Democrats say not so fast. The president's claim that there was a political spy embedded in his campaign is nonsense and the country needs to know that this is nonsense. Rosenstein under orders to do something finding a middle ground it's and

39:22 but poking fun at what's become a very visible role. Deputy Attorneys General are very low profile, tend not to be recognized. An FBI informant did speak with several members of the Trump campaign in 2016 according to a New York Times report but experts argue it would have been standard procedure to talk to people during what was at the time the FBI investigation into Russian interference there is nothing wrong with this In fact, it's really the least intrusive means that the FBI could have used. Now the president furious and fixated according to sources familiar with his thinking. Rod Rosenstein is in the most difficult position probably of anybody in the history of the Department of Justice he's trying to thread the needle between a president who was pressuring him against protecting an institution the Department of Justice and the FBI. Any collusion?

40:11 Now, just to frame this. What everyone is talking about and what I'm sure we're talking about is two dimensions One dimension sees this as spying the other dimension sees it as protection Well before you go in there with that analysis, I do want to make some comments on this last clip First of all, the guy says this is nonsense. Is dimension B that was shift? You have a clip from direct and then they tricked Hallie's gotten some new idea New journalistic concept ah It's at the very end Instead of saying you know what they do

40:51 People familiar with the sources, sources familiar with... With the matter. Yeah with them Right? Yes which I think leads into the fact of the matter Sources familiar with the matter they used to say that mm-hmm in this case There was nobody familiar with the matter because she says Donald Trump is now fixated yes say sources Familiar with the matter No Oh what did she say sources familiar with his thinking. Wow, that could be anybody! Yeah I could be me Oh that's a great catch John. This is going off the journalistic rails. Let me see if i can find it here in the clip. It's about two-thirds of way through.

41:50 I can't why can't i fast forward the clip oh here we go FBI investigation into russian interference there's nothing wrong speak with several members of the trump campaign in 2016 according to a new york times report but experts argue it would have been standard procedure to talk to people during what was at the time the fbi investigation into Russian interference there's nothing wrong with this. In fact In fact, it's really the least intrusive means that the FBI could have used. Now the president furious and fixated according to sources familiar with his thinking. You're so right! Oh my God nailed it I'm gonna give you clip of the day. Holy crap

42:33 So now they don't even know what he's actually up to, but you've got people. You guys have a hotline. Have an illusion that Jamaican woman and did they also have protection on the Clinton side seeing as they were trying to hack her email so they have spies over there talking to her campaign if they were protecting? I mean it seems like she needed some protection for her. She was being robbed of her personal data Did they have spies over there? Has anyone asked that question?" Not yet. I haven't asked it, nobody's asked it. Now they're psychic! They're familiar with his thinking and trying to get into his brain from distance." That's very good. Sally Yates who initially was kicked out

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Sally Yates, Morning Joe Interview

Former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates appeared on Morning Joe to criticize President Trump's demands for a DOJ investigation into his own campaign. Yates argued that the President's actions represent an assault on the rule of law and praised Rod Rosenstein for attempting to protect the institutional integrity of the department.

sally yates· morning joe· rod rosenstein· rule of law· department of justice

43:22 During the right after the transition you remember she was serving as Attorney General. She was deputy did choose, but she was serving as attorney general yeah And she was kicked out because she wouldn't enforce the Enforcement migration immigration law ban it wasn't a law I was a man Muslim Band brah here's her thoughts on morning Joes It's not about who cares John if it's who cares we can just shut the show down now I mean, this is just showing you what's going on. No, I'm taking it from the journalist. Why would you put her on a show? She's out of office! She's a hero because she stood up to the orange Cheeto. I think what we're seeing here is that the president has just taken his all-out assault on the rule of law to a new level and this time he is ordering an investigation by investigators who are examining his own campaign

44:18 You know, that's really shocking. Rod Rosenstein is trying to strike a balance here between defusing this situation but also protecting the rule of law and the institutional integrity of the department." Now I can see this both ways. I can truly see where people would be like hey man it's normal that the Russians were out there we had to make sure they weren't infiltrating or getting through I mean, I can see where that's a completely believable, viable story for a lot of people. Like, I can see it! That is the litany for Dimension A folk. B.

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Michael Caputo, Trump Campaign Intermediaries

Former Trump campaign consultant Michael Caputo claims he was approached by an intermediary in May 2016 regarding stolen Hillary Clinton emails. Caputo suggests this contact occurred much earlier than the official timeline of the Mueller investigation, alleging it may have been a "honeypot" operation designed to entrap the campaign.

michael caputo· trump campaign· mueller investigation· hillary clinton emails· honeypot

45:00 No people who think of BBB, but you're right. Okay? You caught me I do it all the time so then we have just a back and forth we have this Michael Caputo guy And now he what is he what is his name let's try it book of knowledge Who is Michael Caputo oh The show will be running over, ladies and gentlemen. If he says anything like I don't know what that is then... I'm sure that's failing Okay so he some guy i'm not quite sure what his deal is. Just look him up. Caputo is an American football safety who is currently a free agent Yeah thats right! He's a free agent.

45:51 Anyway, I think he's probably another lawyer guy or something. He was a consultant to the campaign and here is what they did to him. I can tell you this guy is, this is the guy we had the clip of. He was either last show or the show before where he goes on and says, I won't work for anybody anymore! Because it has ruined my life and its costing me $100,000 every time I come to Washington to testify. So what's interesting about his story is that timeline puts his contact with a different spy

46:37 Much earlier than anything that I've heard about he puts his contact back to me is very interesting. What's remarkable here To my approach is it happened in the first week of May and 2016 very far off the timeline That the Mueller investigation and others are trying to hold too as to when the investigation Into the Trump campaign actually began so when you say may have 2016 what happened a discovery of someone penetrating the campaign or what? Actually, I was approached by an intermediary. who had been talking to a government official, former government official who told him that they had Hillary Clinton related emails at the at that government organization and if they wanted to get them to the Trump campaign. This was May 6th he heard that in 2016 I was told by the intermediary on may 9th that they wanted to get them to me this conversation continued back and forth for several days

47:37 I was in Trump Tower at the time. Whenever i got a call from the intermediary, I would walk outside of the office. I spent a lot of time in the hallway outside of the fifth floor office talking to this intermediary." So that kind of fits what I was theorizing on the previous episode is that it was really about... they were honeypotting the stolen emails with this guy clearly And they, and they really I think they really believe that somehow Trump had that. And if not, they were going to get it to him or they were going to nail them down and have someone ask for them and have some proof so there would So that was your second spy in May which is not really being discussed. And he says he can't discuss it you know his lawyers won't let him because that name isn't known just like It took a while took a reasonably long time for the M5M to come up with Stefan Halper

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Adam Schiff, FBI Informant Controversy

Representative Adam Schiff defended the FBI's use of a confidential source, arguing that revealing the individual's identity would compromise national security and risk lives. Schiff dismissed claims of a "political spy" as nonsense, while critics questioned why the identity must remain secret if the allegations of spying are meritless.

adam schiff· fbi· stefan halper· house intelligence committee· national security

48:30 And it took a while and here's what bothers me about the whole thing. Dimension A or dimension B is that the one side is denying, in fact Adam Schiff says it was nonsense yet on PBS Adam Schiff and I got the clip here on The FBI Spy, Adam Schiff goes onto say You see, remembering he said there's no spy. This was nonsense but he intermixes He's very keen when you listen to him It's very hard to follow his logic When you listen to him what he says is that it would be bad to reveal his name because national security and methods Sources and method all this stuff wait a minute if the guy doesn't exist then it's nonsense How can it be bad to reveal him?

49:18 How can it be bad to reveal it? Because obviously the guy doesn't exist, but he... He does this and he buffalos Judy, who I believe is interviewing him. And she never questions this one basic tenet which is if there was no spy why would it be bad to tell us who he is? Let me ask you about this controversy involving the FBI informant... That's not Judy! Well you said Schiff on FBI and that's what I grabbed so I'm sorry. Schiff on the FBI okay This I'm sorry he's not buffaloing Judy in this case. He's buffalo-ing the Face The Nation guy Todd Chip. No, no chip's the other guy that's Dick Gregory. Let me ask you about this controversy involving the FBI informant and this is something that your Republican counterpart in the House Intelligence Committee he wants the Department of Justice to release more information about this informant we now know who that person is when did you become aware of this FBI informant?

50:18 I don't want to characterize what this individual may or may not be, but I do want to say the Justice Department, the FBI even the White House although clearly not the President has said that revealing information about this individual could compromise people's lives. It could betray a relationship with our allies It could compromise the investigation. And the president's response and Chairman Nunes, Jordan and Gowdy and others is bring it on we don't care whatever is in the service of the President were willing to do this is a dramatic and new and destructive low I think for the Congress United States basically to ignore the warnings of the FBI Justice Department and potentially risk people's lives

51:03 What they would like this information for is clearly to be of service to the Trump defense team and further any narrative they have. The most I can tell you, Chuck, is that There's claim by the president, suggestion by Giuliani that there is a political spy embedded in the Trump campaign as nonsense. And you hear it in terms that Trump often speaks which is people are saying or I'm hearing or we're being told That's another way of saying this is patently untrue but we would like to spread anyway and It's singularly destructive of our institutions But then oh that's the point all right but in fairness to the president and his supporters they look at the history of this

51:44 informant. They see that he was involved in political campaigns and possibly even political espionage in 1980, and they think why shouldn't they be suspicious of this? Well again, I can't comment on the identity of any individual or source But I can say this. This is part of a string of meritless allegations from the very beginning that I was wiretapped in Trump Tower There's a vast unmasking conspiracy The investigation began with the Christopher Steele dossier all of which was untrue That's correct because it started much earlier than the Christopher Steele dossier Wow. I mean this guy, i can't believe this guy gets away with this

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Stefan Halper, FBI Academic Informant

The Washington Post and other outlets identified Stefan Halper, a Cambridge University professor, as the secret FBI source who contacted the Trump campaign. Halper has a long history of working with the federal government, including over $1$ million in Department of Defense contracts and ties to the intelligence community dating back to the Nixon administration.

stefan halper· washington post· cambridge university· department of defense· cia

52:27 Why do they keep talking to him? I mean, he just is a liar. Yeah well Halper is MIA He's in hiding and if you want to know how long the Washington Post WAPOWAPOWAPO knew about his identity and His background well it was quite awhile according to this WAPO journalist who was interviewed on NPR The Washington Post held back institutionally last week when we first reported on a secret FBI source But as other news organizations in recent days published his name, the Post decided to publish the name Stephen Halper. We should note NPR has made contact with Stephen Halper and he declined to comment on all of this The University of Cambridge website lists him as an emeritus senior fellow at the Center for International Studies I understand you actually took a class with him at Cambridge He was my professor at Cambridge. I studied under Professor Halper in 2008 In 2009 he was a friend

53:22 and a professor in American working at Cambridge, and as an American student there myself studying American politics and British politics. He was someone I sought out had dinner with him his wife on many occasions he's a gregarious academic someone who enjoys writing and debating and he always seemed highly connected to both me and people he came in touch with it came from someone who knew So many American presidents had worked for them in the White House going back to the Nixon administration. So how does somebody like this with one foot in academia, another foot in Republican policy government circles become an FBI informant? If you look at Stephen Halper's career He has been an academic to be sure for the last two decades or so But he has also been

54:09 closely working with the federal government. He's been contracted by the Department of Defense since 2012, made over a million dollars in different kinds of contract fees for research and social sciences... Bro! This podcasting gig sucks compared to that! A million bucks? But if you look back at his career he also took notes on campaigns for The White House in the 1970s working for the Chief of Staff for President Gerald Ford. He's someone who has always been a political analyst and he's had ties to the intelligence community, his first wife her father was Ray Klein, a long-time prominent CIA analyst The FBI urged reporters not reveal his name now that his name is public Do you know where he is? Whether he's in danger We know that he has maintained residences in the UK and in Virginia for years

55:05 But we have not been able to see him in person. He did decline via email to comment Hopefully he is safe, he is someone I know at the same time These are these are delicate tough stories We held back on the name but the name was out there everywhere In recent days so institutionally The Post decided to move forward as have others a spot spook Spot the spook Everybody wants to spot the spook. You know, where's the danger? Trump! Trump?! Trump. Trump!? It's possible By the way did you see any news about the shooting at Trump's golf club I have a...I have the clip but before we go to that later Well do that later Yes so i did yes I did Okay Um.. I thought it- I agree with you in fact like The clip is named unpublicized Doral shooting Let's do it real quick Why they covered it up let's do it real quick then

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Trump National Doral Shooting, Jonathan Oddy

Police engaged in a shootout with 42-year-old Jonathan Oddy at the Trump National Doral hotel in Miami after he scaled a fence and began shouting political rhetoric. Body camera footage captured the firefight in the hotel lobby; Oddy survived gunshot wounds to the leg and faces multiple felony charges, including attempted murder of an officer.

doral· miami· jonathan oddy· trump national· police shootout

56:23 The dramatic sh- Wait a minute, you know what? I'm actually gonna play. Cuz' i don't have a clip...I have the audio of the body cam Listen to this! Well just listen to it, I'll have an observation and then we will do your clip. What is going on?! Are these guys just shooting around!? This doesn't sound like the cops that I used to know These guys are just gun ho shooters. Just anywhere, just... I think they're shooting up the Doral! Hey finally we got a chance The dramatic shootout between police and an intruder at the Trump National Doral Hotel in Miami A firefight captured on police body cam Fire alarms blaring as bullets fly round after round

57:27 It sounds like Red's the shooting range here. Just crazy all over the hotel and how come not hearing? Isn't that the appropriate way if you have someone in your sight just They're just like shoot over here, maybe it was the other guy shooting but on the body cam is sound a lot like Like the cops. It wouldn't have been as loud, I mean it was going to be loud on the body camera those were those guys shooting it wasn't the other guy The damage visible all over the hotel's luxurious lobby As the video shows officers carefully climbing the stairs Where suspected gunman 42 year old Jonathan Oddy was arrested

58:04 Police say he scaled a fence at the hotel owned by the president, stole an American flag and began screaming rhetoric against President Trump and former President Obama. Suffering gunshot wounds to the leg, Adi survived and now faces multiple felonies including first-degree attempted murder of a police officer Two did you see this guy? No, no didn't what do you look first day show him being arrested and they show them in the court and they I've seen the initiative is mugshot. He has a Expressionless face that's exactly the same every time it's like bug eyes kind of looking straight ahead he's worse than that kid in Colorado a Mouth kind of open kind of us pudgy face It was like the guy is not even human. Do you think it was on Ritalin?

58:55 John, he's too old. No I think that you're never... John? Hello? We got a call from the control room. Please remind John you are never too old for Ritalin The guy looks something's weird about this story, and they're suppressing it for some reason. I'm not sure why yeah Obama is also Targeted I'd like to know I'd like that liked what do you mean? Obama is also targeted He says he was yelling about Obama and Trump hmm. I'd like to know I'd like to it's odd that we there were not I'm hearing more about this. I don't know, it could be... No! This is wild So let's get back to the finish up with Well here's what i'd like to do, take a break and get into the B block then I want to talk about Clapper because we both have an abundance of fun stuff to talk about with him How does that sound? I don't want to talk about Clapper except in this regard I have two clips left for The Spiky Thing really they're designed to be Let's do it Rolled out One of them has Clapper in it

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James Clapper, Spying vs. Informants

Former DNI James Clapper argued that the FBI's use of an informant did not constitute "spying" because traditional tradecraft was not employed. Clapper maintained that the operation's intent was to protect the American political system from Russian penetration rather than to monitor the Trump campaign's internal activities.

james clapper· fbi· spying· tradecraft· pbs

59:55 Because clapper did a 10-minute interview I didn't only clip two clips from it because they found clapper to be annoying on the view. Oh you got that You got a bum deal Oh, I can imagine but let's let me... But this has to do with Spygate. Yeah so does my clip! Yeah but listen to this So Judy's got him on the Spygate thing and he also kind of was shifted that there was no spy And he has a completely different reason why there was no spy and it's unbelievably stupid Is this on Spygate?

1:00:33 President Trump said this morning, and this is regarding allegations that the FBI used an informant during the 2016 campaign. He said I hope it's not so but if it is there has never been anything like in the history of our country he went on to say if you look at Clapper he sort of admitted that they had spies in the campaign inadvertently I hope its no true but looks like it is Well, I think he's kind of distorted what I was trying to say which was actually took aversion To the term spy which I don't like anyway, but particularly it's inappropriate in this context for big gulf between a spy and the traditional sense employing spy craft or tradecraft and And informant who is open about you know what who we wasn't and questions. He was asking

1:01:23 The intent, though it's an important thing was not to spy on the campaign but rather to determine what the Russians were up to. Were they trying to penetrate the campaign gain access gain leverage gain influence and that was the concern that the FBI had And I think they're just doing their job in trying to protect our political system. I gotta tell you it just hit me this is how it works So, let's just presume there are a couple of dudes in charge of the media. And like okay we got this shit- We got a shitstorm going down... ...we're gonna send Clapper out and have him explain the difference between spying and protecting! And we've gotta set people's mindsets right so release the Yanny Laurel clip!

1:02:14 Yeah, right you might be right. I mean this clapper goes he said you're not a spy unless you're using tradecraft That's what he said raid craft So in other words if you go on and spy on somebody but unless you got a minox camera You know on micro fish hair recorder reel-to-reel Yeah, using all those things. You're not a spy! You just have your LARPing. Your larping dude. So the guy is an idiot now let's play this last thing with it. Spycraft services. So so meanwhile let's go to the Trump campaign spy finals my last clip and this is some judicial watch where I think he pretty much

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Judicial Watch, Law Enforcement Overreach

Judicial Watch representatives criticized the FBI's recruitment of assets to target a political campaign, calling it an outrageous abuse of power. They argued that the semantic distinction between a "spy" and an "informant" is irrelevant when the full force of federal law enforcement is leveraged against a domestic political organization.

judicial watch· fbi· department of justice· asset recruitment· law enforcement

1:02:58 I'm more in agreement with what these guys are going to say than anything else we've played. We're made by people within the administration Now, let's start with the notion of an informant. There is a difference between someone, a spy who has been put into the Trump campaign by the DOJ or FBI versus an informant. An informant would be someone who has a friendly face to the campaign and just trying to glean information from members of the campaign. It is a distinction without a difference frankly. Look, these are or in this case the source let's just call them was a recruited asset of a law enforcement agency. In this case the FBI seeking to collect information and you can call them an informant, you could call him a spy, you could call him a source but it is all the same thing frankly. You had a person recruited for a task

1:03:57 targeting an organization for information that they were going to report back to law enforcement. And so there's all sorts of semantic games that can be played, but what you had was the full force and power of the FBI leveraged against a political campaign, and that is now outrageous abuse of law enforcement powers, the likes of which we've never seen." Ah yes! And by the way, according to Axios which is a fine Dimench B NBC Lauren Jones...Jones? Jobs owned outfit.

1:04:34 Report their exclusive that Peter Navarro pushed Stefan Halper for a job within the Trump campaign. So something was going on beyond that, but yeah it's absolutely true It's like you know I know what spies are my family is filled with them they're civilians in you know civilians And they're everywhere and then you've got spies who provide front companies and covers for For other informants and spies. This is total horseshit semantics, and we're dealing with extreme level yes Semantics. Oh crap, yeah they're trying to obfuscate it by you know making a smoke screens I mean Schiff and Clapper are two good examples they're just speaking nonsense And the mainstream media is all in and it was fantastic to see Jim

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James Clapper on The View, Russian Infiltration

James Clapper appeared on The View to promote his book and discuss the FBI's investigation into Russian election interference. Clapper defended the use of confidential informants as a "benign tool" and expressed concern that publicizing the identity of such sources would have a chilling effect on future intelligence gathering.

james clapper· the view· russia· fbi· confidential informant

1:05:26 Jim Clapp. James Clapper show up on The View, of course he's promoting his book! He knows where to sell a book... Everybody has got it- I don't know how he has time? This guy should be protecting our country! He still has time to write books. He didn't typewrite it. D'you think?! So he's on the view with whoopie in the gang and I'd like to play a few choice clips Which I have selected for us. The FBI started to look into Trump's Ties to Russia in the summer of 2016 and Trump tweeted that this spring Despite rather despite that he closes spying other people say it's a whistleblower or an informant He says a whistle blower, that's even better Get him under whistleblower protection That's great spying is

1:06:08 is bigger than Watergate. So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump's campaign? No they were not. They were spying on a term that I don't particularly like. He said they were spying on oh see what he did in the PBS interview was correct. He said well You know you call it spying, but it's really and no It's not spying and here he answers right off the cut yes He blows it right at the opening is the truth. This is they were spying No with he they were not they were spying on a term I don't particularly like but

1:06:46 On what the Russians were doing trying to understand where the Russians infiltrating trying to gain access trying to gain leverage and influence So why doesn't he like that? He should be happy though. Well, I mean And this is one of reasons I wrote my book Russia poses because they are bent on undermining our system and that's what they did and had a lot of success in During the course of the election. They are bent they're bent what is Benton II? They are bent on Infiltrating our system that's a colloquialism I believe but and the way it's used hellbent Yes, yes, that's where stems from yeah And where does hell-bent come from we have to do a little research on that

1:07:31 Okay, I'm fine hell then. I'm not gonna ask the book of knowledge anymore I'm too afraid Please don't I'll ask her to get me a cab at the end of the show though anyway Anyway help and is determined to achieve something at all costs at all cost alright then sunny Sunny jumps in now you as you know she was an assistant Decker deputy Assistant District Attorney oh And she likes saying that all the time and then and she doesn't like the word spying either You know I don't like the term spy either. I was with the Department of Justice's in a USA, and I think surveil She was a state attorney

1:08:14 AUSA. Okay, I'm turning you know, I don't like the term spy either I was with the Department of Justice's in a USA and I think surveil is perhaps the more important word What about this notion that there was a CI a confidential informant embedded in the campaign? Is that true well as we've seen unfortunately Sorry Well, Clapper wasn't involved at that level. He wouldn't know it. He doesn't know anything! He's the director of national intelligence at the time so you've pointed this out to me Of course he would know. Of course he was in The Loop Oh yeah but I like this here we prefer to call it surveillance and we like to call it CI instead of a spy As we've seen unfortunately the identity of this informant is now out in the media

1:09:06 And if you know this is a fairly benign tool available to the FBI given all the other capabilities available to them. Can you stop for second? The guy does have a name, everybody knows what his name is but I believe that you can kind of spot the spook by the people who won't say his name Okay, because I think that he was and he was his name is classified And as you know and I've heard this from my economic hit man if you're in all these agencies You can't look at wikiLeaks right? You can't look at WikiLeaks. You can't do this But also if so if he is indeed CI if he's class classified

1:09:57 Then just saying his name would be breach of classification and you could go to jail. Well, CI would be, of course means confidential informant Yeah But... His na- yeah well he is apparently the way this was And I think Chuck Todd by the way is suspect because when he talked about the guy He refused to say his name too So the people that won't say his name are I say in a spot the spook methodology They would be spooks! Yeah Okay, all right. Yeah, we'll continue the clapper goes these people go out of their way not to say his name even though His name's in the public domain capabilities Available to them and it and what has been described that he did was was pretty mild FBI I love is just it was pretty mild come on. It's just mild spying there was no guy now boy They did as my old Was pretty mild

1:10:55 The FBI particularly draws on users informants all the time for law enforcement purposes. And it's legal? It is a very valuable source of information and the FBI has very strict rules and protocols on their usage, but what is bad about this is revelations about this, about this individual. So other informants for the FBI who provide valuable information that keep this nation safe and secure begin to wonder well is my identity going to be protected? And what about potential informant's who might want to help with the FBI and what's the impact on them? It was pretty chilling. Oh, it's so chilling because now no one wants to be... By the way, chilling is a left-wing liberal code word Yes it is I said this before on this show number of years ago But I'm chilled to the bone If they ask me if they asked me to be an informant why would I do that you're just gonna out me This is dangerous Well they didn't out him That's the point of thing is people have their covers blown

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

James Clapper, 2013 Congressional Testimony Controversy

James Clapper addressed his 2013 testimony where he denied the NSA collected data on millions of Americans, claiming he made a mistake rather than a lie. Clapper explained he was thinking of a different program under Section 702 of FISA and struggled to "break the code" of Senator Ron Wyden's euphemistic questioning.

james clapper· ron wyden· nsa· surveillance· perjury

1:11:55 Yes. Which is what this guy did! Now Clapper has been a long-standing problem with the truth we saw him back in the day in Congress saying no, no, no... We didn't lie and we didn't spy on anybody and this luckily came up in the View Combo You know the president tweeted about you quote Clapper is a lying machine who now works for fake news So a lot of people I know, first of all what was your reaction to that when you first saw that? Well the president's calling me a lying machine. Well okay... Good line! What that stems from is an exchange i had with Senator Wyden five years ago in March 2013 Now let's listen very closely to how he explains what happens About uh... surveillance program and he was asking me about one and I was thinking about another

1:12:45 I made a mistake, but i didn't lie so that's what occasioned uh... So what you're referencing though is that when you said uh.. When you were talking about James Snowden blowing the whistle on the NSA illegally. James Snowden must be Edward's brother. ...spying and in 2013 when you were asked about it you said no! So that-that IS A LIE And I think No it isn't a lie, I'm sorry It isn't a lie. Okay. Uh, I was thinking about something else Another program I can get it all the technical details about please ask him about the metadata program and the euphemistic way He asked about it. I didn't break the code you for I was thinking of another The whoa you're missing. I didn't break the code is euphemistics, so he didn't break the code Wow this is great. I got to remember that we asked about it. I didn't break the code well I was thinking of another program that we just gotten renewed section 702 of the foreign intelligence surveillance act by the way

1:13:37 Had I been on the same page with him and understood what he was asking me, I'd have still been in a bad place because at the time that program was classified. And just on the face of it you know I've been trotting up the hill testifying for 20 or 25 years dozens of hearings hundreds of questions and always tried to answer them straight but gee... Stop! He says he always always tries. Wait a minute Either you answer them or you don't. I always try to be honest! I try, I try to be honest! I'm doing my best can't you see? I'm trying hard here. Dozens of hearings hundreds of questions and always tried to answer them straight but gee

1:14:24 Just for a change of pace. I think i'll lie on this one question and by the way do it on live television in front of One of my oversight committees well, I'm convinced now Of course that you would never do what's the point of lying if you're not lying to the people that You want to hear the truth? Really Let's go back. Well, hold on! Let's go back and listen to the exchange for a moment then we can discuss I thank you and this is for you Director Clapper again on the surveillance front And i hope that we can do this in just yes or no answer because I know Senator Feinstein wants to move on Last summer the NSA director was at a conference

1:15:08 and he was asked a question about the NSA surveillance of Americans. He replied, and I quote here, The reason I'm asking the question is having served on the committee now for a dozen years I don't really know what a dossier is in this context. So, what i wanted to see if you could give me yes or no answer to the question does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? No sir It does not Not wittingly

1:15:53 There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps Collect but not not wittingly Seems pretty clear to me. Does he thinks all this discussion of the meta? Nothing, what was the code? What was he talking about? He couldn't decode it It was such a it was such a complicated question Let's just review the question one more time which he could not decode crap I think you could give me a yes or no answer to the question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? That seems pretty clear. Any data AT ALL! Any Data! Metadata... Mini-Data, Mega-Data... Micro-Data Phone numbers Yes Of course they do So he's a liar He is doubling down on the lie Last clip

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Steele Dossier, Intelligence Community Assessment

James Clapper stated that the Steele Dossier was not used as a primary source for the official intelligence community assessment because its claims could not be validated. He noted that James Comey briefed then-President-elect Trump on the document as a courtesy to warn him of its existence in the public domain.

steele dossier· james comey· james clapper· fbi· intelligence

1:16:50 about the dossier. We live kind of in a dangerous time where depending on which side of an issue you're coming at, you think people as either whistleblowers or leakers. Exactly So when we talk about the Steele dossier for example which was unsubstantiated document with salacious claims about Trump I love how they read everything on The View James Comey briefed the president on that dossier and then it got out to the media You have said that you did not leak that do you have theories on this and is that okay? Because where we fall, We might see this as good because it was a whistleblower or bad because it was a leak. Well first of all the dossier Is not classified, Not an intelligence document Huh except they paid for didn't they pay for it

1:17:35 Didn't the FBI pay for some of it? The FBI contributed some money somehow, some way. We don't know why or how. But not classified... No it wasn't classified! Wasn't classified! There's nothing secret about it. Nothing secret. A point I need to make is that we did not use it as a source for our intelligence community assessment. We felt and I felt in the no good deed goes unpunished department that the president-elect at least needed to know was out there and that was the whole point of the briefing At one point, Jim and I were both going to do it. And at the last moment he had... Call me! ...call me. And then the last moment he said, I think it'd be better if I do it alone. Of course, I was fine with that. So he stayed after the broader briefing to tell him that so that the point was to warn him and we didn't draw on it for our official assessment because we couldn't validate the second third order's assets or collection sources informants that were used in a dossier

1:18:32 So the dossier is not necessarily a leak? No, I mean... It's not classified. If I hand you the newspaper, am I leaking the newspaper to you? Not in my mind! Well, neither in mine either. Okay fine alright well the world is good Clapper's not a liar there was no spying shut up everybody just keep on moving Just keep on moving My last Clapper clip which is the one that had Judy, this was Judy's interview with him which is 10 minutes long and I took two clips. Dropped her jaw when he said this because he decided to up the ante on everything and this is Clapper now, he says that because as you recall when they were talking about the phony Russian bull crap because of their $100,000 huge spend on Facebook

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

James Clapper, Russian Election Impact Claims

In an interview with Judy Woodruff, James Clapper expressed his "informed opinion" that Russian interference actually turned the 2016 election in favor of Donald Trump. Clapper argued that given the narrow margin of 80,000 votes in three states, it exceeds logic to believe that the massive Russian influence campaign had no effect.

james clapper· judy woodruff· russia· 2016 election· voter influence

1:19:25 They would say, well the Russians are trying to interview at the election but they had no impact and everybody would say that. We had clip after clip of everyone always throwing in the disclaimer while they didn't affect the election. They were trying Here's what he says now. Since I left the government, though as a private citizen it's what I would call my informed opinion that given the massive effort the Russians made and the number of citizens that they touched and the variety in the multi-dimensional aspects of what they did to influence opinion and affect the election.

1:20:20 And given the fact that it turned on less than 80,000 votes in three states to me It just exceeds logic and credulity that they didn't affect the election. And it's my belief They actually turned it. That is a stunning conclusion isn't it? I mean what does that say about where we are as we head into these midterm elections and then escalate Well, Judy we're all fucked. Motivations for my speaking out and writing this book was to do my small part in trying to educate the public on what the Russians are up to they are bent on undermining our fundamental system here Bent again? They're bent

1:21:07 What a cluster. Yeah, because the American public's so stupid... This is great insult to everybody this Clapper guy. He just comes out in insults but this is an insult to the public! And he was in charge of all of national security during this time. This is the guy. So if you think this is bad what's underneath him? And by the way, if the Russians did all this stuff and they turned the election you were the guy. You're the head of national intelligence at that time it's your fault! Yeah, you let him slip by what are you doing? Edward Clapper. You're living in disgrace! No, he gets celebrated and has a book deal. Murica And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for craft of spies Dvorak Well In the morning to the troll room hello trolls you always warm me up

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony

The show acknowledges significant financial contributions from executive producers and associates, including RJ Van Baye and Chris Moore. A formal knighting ceremony was held for Chris Dillon (Sir Gian) and Sandra Langston (Dame Mello) for their donations of $1,000 or more, supporting the show's value-for-value model.

no agenda· rj van baye· chris moore· chris dillon· sandra langston

1:22:08 No agenda stream commas where you can join in the live shows we do it on Thursdays and Sundays at 11 a.m.. Central Daylight Time Adjust your clocks appropriately, and I want to say in the morning to economic hitman he brought us the artwork for episode 1035 title was hundo's and It was simple sweet Original it was that one of those You know carry on type signs and in this case it was watch the royal wedding And don't shut up about it. Which was true for the m5m and quite honestly a bit for us as well Not really we talked I think we talked a little bit about because I think it was necessary And by the way that end of Royals is so interesting yes, they are We not talk about them This show

1:22:59 Has no problem talking, taking on any topics since our advertisers cannot be targeted even though some have tried. We don't have any that's why it always fails and we haven't... Well we have them the show won't be as good but will you making a lot more money? And we... That's the way it works in this country! It's in any country I'm afraid Well, some countries make it more hard. Frankly... Our country makes it easier. Frankly there are many people who say that the No Agenda show and its model would not work in another country and I disagree! But for this many times well Americans do have a sense of generosity and they were very charitable yes and they like to support things yes I don't know maybe I hope I never have to find out

1:23:48 Because that would mean two things. You're not there and I'm not living here, so this could be a bad deal. It could be double whammy! Let's thank our executive producers. Let us thank a couple of executive producers and three or four associates. RJ Van De Beige? Baye. Remember, IJ is a Y in Holland. IJ is a Y… Baye. Yep. 350. No, and JNK no name, no jingles, no karma. Thank you very much! Chris Moore, Sir Nubbin of the 500 309. An email sent later? What was the 309 for it must have been some significant number that's probably in the email which I didn't know about so let me look up more

1:24:44 Real quick with the squirrels. Yeah, squirrel males Are you doing it for me? They're doing it we're doing it We're doing it right I have I got I've nothing low numbers I got our J's a are 15 stolen from the Tipton County Deputy's office No, no, I gotta Todd or name know well if he sent the email Send that again Chris Moore Well You know the problem that these guys have is they haven't It's the way email works. You don't put your name in the thing, it doesn't go through and it's just some e-mail address which is you know, hop along Cassidy or something

1:25:23 Wow, nice. Nice reference! People do that. Did Hopalong Cassidy actually ever have email is my question? Well he does now. Write him at gmail dot com Thank you Chris Moore send us the note again I'd love to know what the 309 stands for We'll bring you in as soon we can but put Chris Moore in there or something Sir Philip The Black Baron of Oslo I will look up something for the second half of this show with other tricks Sir Philip The Black Baron Of Oslo $250 He says, must lose you guys to apathy. The last few shows have been absolutely stellar." I think he meant to say must not lose you guys to apathy. I think this is one of those slips of the tongue. Yeah. The truth always wants to come out! Yeah it did. Oh no... He wants us to lose us to apathy. Mr. Philip Blackburn. Baron of Oslo. Another $250 comes from Chris Dillon

1:26:22 Who says in the morning this donation puts me in the knighthood I like to be known as Sir Gian. Nice, alright. Surgeon, get it? Yes, surgeon! Ah nice. Surgeon he's a surgeon thanks for the great show just need some karma. You've got karma Sir Lucas to Hema say Emma, but very close you got close. Why there you go? I yeah, you got close Tama Yeah, I did. Oh hit it nail it in Oost case you don't do that you ignore the first G boost

1:27:02 Why would you, why do you ignore? Do you always ignore the first G if there's two Gs in it. We have lots… no! There is no rule. It's a tough language to learn. Okay then this case should be… Uggsgeest. Oostgheist. Oostreisd. Yeah. Where is this… You nailed it. Oh jeez. Yearly voluntary contribution for this show. Keep up with good work and then I will continue listening and contributing. Well thank you very much. Don't hesitate to contact me before the show to prevent bullshit statements about the GDPR during this show. That's right, tomorrow the general data protection rules go into effect which is I'm sure why The Nest wanted to warn me no 13 year olds may operate it." I wrote a column about this thing... The Nest? Oh! I missed that. Is it a newer old one? Not The Nest but GDPR. Oh, GDRP. GDPR. It's PR.

1:27:53 And what'd you say? I said, it sucks. It's bad. But I didn't call...I didn't send Tejem a note. What does he know? He is in Netherlands. Oh that's right. Hello! It's part of the EU where the GDPR goes into effect tomorrow. And when it says we're all screwed somehow. I'm going to actually tap him. Lucas read my column on PC Magazine this should be out now or Tomorrow and tell me what you think. Okay, we're wrong yes, we never Langston 200 bucks 59 23 would have taken me to Dame status this time But I rounded the number up so I also planned a shamelessly plug my show of artwork in Austin Did your thought this is already came and went yeah? No Davis gallery Sandra Langston fabulous exhibition breathtaking breadth scope and talent blah blah blah until June 7th hmm

1:28:52 Did you say it was okay to shill a bit last time, John? And Adam. You didn't have anything better to do, did you? You don't have anything better to do, do you? Do you? No no no no no. Then go see it! So please make me de Mello... pronounce da Mello with the soft A as in Italian give it to me until I can come up with something clever that seems clever enough I've so enjoyed the last few shows you guys are blowing it up. Thanks, I'm hitting people in the mouth as fast as i can." I'm glad we caught this because Eric had not put her on the list she's on now note that is easier for the guys to be clever using sir cuz of their joke and that note see attached link which is icky and somewhat funny for all us dames and she has w-w-w or just... WeAreDame.co?

1:29:50 Yeah, we are. We are Dame dot co let's take a look. Let's see we are Dame dot co bleed red think green Meet D the world's first reusable tampon applicator Damn you know it is a kickstarter Oh God Your profile I get there something to that yeah women really do get screwed in the big deal of life though I'll tell ya Well, they lose you know they lose their looks. They did there their private parts explode They go well a lot of them do their ankles blow up there? You know they're bleeding their whole life You know then I had got to poop out children become cankles There they're pooping our children and then you know after all that as a thank-you you get to you know almost

1:30:44 Ignite, you get with the hot flashes. You go up to 500 degrees. It's a raw deal so yeah. So I'm supporting this reusable tampon applicator and you still have to cook damn snuck that one by me Dvorak nice. And that concludes our group of executive and associate executive producers I believe All right. Am I wrong? No, you're right you're not wrong well thank you very much to these uh...to this exclusive group of which we have two new people that sit at the round table one night one day and that is coming up later as we thank the rest are supporters coming in fifty dollars and above and please remember we have another show coming up on Sunday devorak dot org slash n a damn we've been dropping some knowledge on ya so you know what you need to do go out there propagate

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

Rob Reiner, Shock and Awe Movie Promotion

Director Rob Reiner appeared on Morning Joe to promote his film "Shock and Awe," which chronicles journalists who questioned the justification for the Iraq War. Reiner used the platform to warn about current threats to the free press and democracy, specifically criticizing conservative media outlets like Fox News and Breitbart.

rob reiner· shock and awe· morning joe· free press· iraq war

1:31:34 Our formula is this we go out. We hit people in the mouth Just to kind of wrap up the This this whole spying not spying thing Rob Reiner, you said you gave it to me so I did clip it and we talked about after the show. Ah yes. Rob Reiner, Meathead from All in the Family. He is of course a celebrated and very famous movie director also an actor and producer and he went... basically doing native ads for his movie

1:32:23 Which you'll hear in this little clip. He even drops it in like, don't forget to talk about my movie! Which is called Shock and Awe and is about the... Apparently there were some reporters who saw that Iraq, the invasion of Iraq was a sham. Gee, who would have thunk? And that couldn't happen again no-no-no Here we go. Well, I mean where you know this is breakneck speed for an investigation of this magnitude We've never seen anything like this we have a foreign power basically trying to undermine our democracy and the possibility that The president United States is in Conspiracy with that foreign power This has never happened before in this country And you can see why

1:33:09 the other side is putting out a full court press because they know that what's coming down the pike conceivably is the biggest scandal in American history and we are fighting right now for the soul of our democracy. And I want to say one thing about what's happening, uh, in terms of the media We can get into shock and awe which is all about you know, the free press and the attack on the free press and how difficult it is to get the truth out If you guys look at your specific ads that you have for your network, there are two ads that you run which basically focus on the importance of free and independent media and a free press.

1:33:53 We're on you're under attack the press is under attack and right now if you remove the ability to get the truth out Then you're gonna have the destruction of democracy. We don't have any more There's no checks and balances from coming from the Congress right? Now, the courts are holding but This is the first time in American history... John, can you check on the courts? Do a quick check for me. Are they still holding? Yeah they're holding. They all want to go to the bathroom and have been waiting and waiting but they're holding Where you have a state-run television Fox

1:34:28 Breitbart, Sinclair and Alex Jones aligned with the President of the United States. That's very very tough! The battle lines have been drawn and we're going to see whether or not democracy survives. The problem is that when you've got 40% of the country that is only tuned in to the lies and they are cemented it's very, its gonna be very hard for the truth to break through when all of the information comes out. You have to understand this is a counterintelligence... What is he trying to say? It's very hard to get the information out because

1:35:08 What? Because 40% of the people watch Fox? Occasionally watch Fox. You know, this didn't work when Obama actually... It did work when Obama did it! If you talk to somebody who said well I don't know i was watching fox news and they said this horrible Good affordable health care might seem like a fanged threat to the freedom Of the American people on Fox News. Fox News on a regular basis is a constant menu they will find Like folks who make me mad. Look, if I watched Fox News that wouldn't vote for me. Look if I watch Fox News that wouldn't vote for me either right because you've got this screen this funhouse mirror through which people are receiving information it seems like yeah wasn't a problem before I mean Obama was under the same M5M Fox News everybody watching facts news

1:36:01 the Benghazi, four years. The Clinton investigation that eventually wound up with an impeachment was six years! So this is one year and you just laid it out Nicole with the volume of what's happened in a year it's astounding

1:36:37 I do believe, and you know go with your earlier guest John Meacham. I have hope that democracy will survive we've been tested before but make no mistake about it we are being tested right now just whether or not 241 years of self-rule will emerge Oh my god The guy can tell a story though, can't he? I love it. And of course they do him justice you know he dropped it in there if you want to talk about my movie later on well of course they do Rob So Rob mentioned his new movie Shock and Awe It all ties in here it chronicles the true story of journalists who were credited with getting it right in the lead-up to the Iraq war

1:37:17 war with reporting that questioned the nature of the Bush White House's justification for that war. Morning Joe now has the exclusive first look at the trailer, let's take a look. Yeah they really went all out for him didn't they? Yeah man we'll show your trailer and everything don't worry about it is all cool just great to have you on good to have you in the fight buddy good to have you there here He is not the only one bitching about the media...He has a friend! Man Trump has a friend an unlikely friend who is very angry about the media. The problem is that journalists are under constant pressure to get max clicks and earn advertising dollars or get fired. Tricky situation as Tesla doesn't advertise, but fossil fuel companies and gas slash diesel car companies

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

Elon Musk, Pravda Media Credibility Site

Elon Musk proposed creating a website called "Pravda" where the public can rate the core truth of articles and track the credibility scores of journalists and editors. Musk's proposal follows negative coverage of Tesla, which he attributes to the influence of fossil fuel advertisers on mainstream media organizations.

elon musk· pravda· tesla· media credibility· journalism

1:38:24 among the world's biggest advertisers. The implication of this one, and here is another one going to create a site where the public can rate the core truth of any article and track the credibility score over time of each journalist editor in publication thinking of calling it Pravda. And you guys know what Pravda is that is linked with... Listen first of all did he say Max Klitz? It was very weird I couldn't hear what No, he didn't say that. Yeah he did but then he corrected himself but now listen to what this guy I mean the Pravda was a state-run newspaper in Russia still is i believe or yeah it's a state run? I don't know that Pravda is anymore I think you may have been spun off... But we know what it is! But this Jamoog... Yeah, I know where they're references... Yeah, but this Jamoog doesn't. And you guys know what Pravda is? That is linked with Russian journalism

1:39:15 I work for the New York Times. I'm linked with American journalism Come on, this is and this is CNBC they should know problem with these tweets in terms of the suggestion that there are some reports that are out about Tesla that are negative because quote-unquote mainstream media is owned by fossil fuel companies or big automakers Guys you and I have been in this business a long time. I'm not sure I've ever come across a journalist who has said well You know what? It'd be good to do a negative story on Tesla because a particular automaker advertises with us. False premise! No, they'd never say that. They'd say maybe you shouldn't write that or maybe the editor would say no I'm not letting that one through

1:40:00 Well, let me finish 26 seconds. I've never heard of that and i've never seen that And yet at the same time Elon musk feels like his company does not get a fair shake by a number of the mainstream Publications ben callow was out with a note today from baird saying look there's too much negativity surrounding tesla and its stock and people are Overlooking the fundamentals that are there so this is elon musk once again You're overlooking the fundamentals of the business That's the best thing I've heard you mean they're losing a billion dollars a month Is that your fundamentals of the business before you comment on the journalism thing? Here's another quick part as they discuss this now amongst themselves Absolutely right to say that point clearly there is a significant firewall between the kind of advertising sales departments of any organization and the journalists themselves

1:40:51 to He feels like he's a victim of fake news. Correct, and much like the president when Elon Musk feels that either he or his companies particularly Tesla are being attacked unfairly... ...He doesn't sit there and take it! He fires back and goes after those who come after his company And he goes after them with a vengeance Now, his supporters and investors in Tesla they love it because their belief is he is fighting for his company. Here's another one of his tweets even if some of the public doesn't care about the credibility score If you were to make up credibility scores The journalists editors and publications will It is how they define themselves So again it gets back to His belief that a number of media outlets do not accurately portray Tesla

1:41:51 and the development of its vehicles where they are with the model 3 etc. Absolutely, he's absolutely right about that! Of course he is... Well, the joke of this is a couple things one it is laughable to say that advertisers don't affect coverage if somebody advertising a lot, they're very friendly. They're always showing up and buying dinners and things I mean you're gonna it's going to affect the way you cover them but that that's beside the point with this because the thing he is really grousing about Which is, and he's blaming these journalists or whatever they're called. It was actually a report in of all things consumer reports which has no advertising. It's all based on subscriptions there is no outside influence so he's full as shit when it comes to this stuff

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Tesla Model 3, Consumer Reports Braking Issues

Consumer Reports declined to recommend the Tesla Model 3 after testing revealed the car's emergency braking distance was worse than a full-sized pickup truck. Elon Musk responded by promising a remote firmware update to improve braking performance, an industry first for a mechanical safety issue.

tesla· model 3· consumer reports· braking performance· elon musk

1:42:40 And it's very annoying that people don't call him out. But let's play this clip, this is the Tesla Model 3. This is about the Consumer Report saying that the brakes on the Model 3 stink! Well, Tesla CEO Elon Musk is promising a remote fix after Consumer Reports failed to recommend the Tesla Model 3. Sound on your side. Michael Finney is here with that plus more. Michael? Consumer Reports says we're all ears! That's what interesting about this in testing consumer reports found the car's brakes performed worse than a Ford pickup truck F-150 Musk tweeted that an update in the next few days should fix the car's braking capabilities. He also said Consumer Reports had an early production model and that the Model 3 now has improved ride comfort, and other issues are taken care of. Consumer Reports says it would be open to retesting a car and it would be industry first if Tesla could actually improve brake performance remotely

1:43:43 So this is the real issue here and he's scrambling because he wants to do all these, you know put up a website condemning journalists who criticize. Yes! He wants to have a Yelp of journos. But meanwhile this is Consumer Reports which is neutral there was no journalism involved here it's simple testing Oh man so this whole thing is based on that premise that Consumer Reports said his car sucks? Yeah, and he calls those journos the actual day or what are you thinking? I think he's I think he's diluted You think thing. I also think that he's in serious trouble with this car Oh a couple of things too expensive it's gonna be 70 thousand instead of 30 well He can't make enough of them because they can't make any of them to hold there something wrong with doesn't work

1:44:30 My AI here is the Tesla 3 of talking tubes. That's pretty much where we're at with this thing. There you go! You can remotely fix it? Yes And this idea of remotely fixing brakes because people think if it was mechanical, okay maybe he's going to do something by... The algo man, the braking algo. Some braking algo which makes it really creepy if you ask me because then you can also make it worse I don't like all these remote fixes but the thing that I think is gonna kill is that if you look at the Model 3 with its very nondescript, it looks like a boat in front. It's really not a pretty car. No no it's not and that's because I believe

1:45:14 Yeah, the Fisker guy left. The Fisker guy gave up on working with him after Musk himself condemned Fisker's auto operation saying it's the worst company ever or something he said something very disparaging and Fisker who designed the Model S and I believe made the company as big as it is and that in the model of the other one X is just kind of a variation uh...I think that getting rid of Fisker was the biggest mistake that I mean he should muster walk and told him to keep designing these cars. He pissed them off. The guy's a genius designer! Yeah, but then I think Elon... Oh Elon pissed him off! He left, he wasn't fired. I think so too. Yeah, he pissed them off. You were never working for him it was just a contractor but I think he's done and now he's got this dog, this model 3 and I don't know what he's gonna do

1:46:08 I was watching those reports. I thought to myself self pay close attention because this will be the Edsel of our times Could be I received a note here from sir nubbin He was in the troll room and he sent his notes to know it Was it no agenda at no agenda dot-com something? No, send it to Adam at curry comm or John at the war rock org That's where you want to send your notes It's the only way that's worked reliably Since the beginning of time in the morning gents sir nubbin here in honor of my dad's birthday He's on a list his dad's birthday today and the 102nd running of Indianapolis 500 I need goat karma for my father that has health problems before going on a missions trip emissions trip All right, no jingles. Just the goat karma you got it You've got

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

Pupbox Shark Tank Pitch, Puppy Subscription Service

Entrepreneurs Ben and Ariel pitched Pupbox on Shark Tank, seeking $250,000 for their puppy-focused subscription service. The business provides monthly boxes of toys, treats, and training guides customized to a puppy's developmental stage, capitalizing on the trend of owners treating pets as "fur babies."

pupbox· shark tank· puppy training· subscription box· mark cuban

1:47:09 There you go I also got a note from someone. I should probably just save that note somewhere Screw you and Dvorak with your animal hate. I'm unsubscribing What animal hate is he referring to well, I have incredible do you you? I have incredible disdain for For the owners of dogs Because they're treating them like human beings and it's encroaching, and it's... It's a problem.

1:47:46 But I'm does not it's interesting that people think. I hate well you started that thank you very much I Have some good examples today Yes, some very good ones let us start with a recent episode of Shark Tank everyone's favorite where you go pitch your ideas he asked for some money and And I think that they are a very modern show. It comes on CNBC in the evening, tonight you can start watching at like 6. And it's always fun to see if Mark Cuban will invest or he'll be really honest with somebody. And this was just a fabulous, fabulous idea which I hope they become very successful with. First into the tank is a business hoping to make life with a new little one easier.

1:48:43 Hey, sharks. We're excited to be here! My name is Ben this is my wife Ariel and this is our daughter Maggie And we are the founders of Pupbox. We're here today seeking $250,000 in exchange for 10% of our company Pupbox is changing the way puppy owners raise their fur babies. Nobody anticipates how difficult and how stressful bringing a new puppy into their home can be We experienced this firsthand when we adopted our precious daughter Maggie See, the problem is that with so many product options in the big box stores It's hard to find the best products for your baby's changing needs We created Pupbox to make puppyhood easier for puppy parents like ourselves by delivering everything a new puppy owner

1:49:18 puppy owner needs on a monthly basis. Each month our subscribers get a box that includes five to seven products that range from toys and treats, to grooming tools accessories. A training guide is also included to let you know what's going on with your puppy and what you should be doing keep up everything is customized for puppies developmental stage and physical characteristics. PupPops will walk you through every stage of your puppies development. Through the potty training blues chewing on shoes and terrible twos. Give us one second pass out samples That's what I say our daughter our daughter. Oh, yeah She said our daughters disgusting you got a you got to potty train your daughter and well Your your daughter will go through the terrible twos Come on

CHAPTER 27 / 43 Discussion

Neuticles, Testicular Implants for Pets

Greg Miller, inventor of Neuticles, has built a successful business selling silicone testicular implants for neutered pets. Developed over 20 years ago to help dogs "feel whole" after surgery, the implants range up to $469 a pair and have been used on various animals, including an elephant.

neuticles· greg miller· pet implants· bulldog· veterinary medicine

1:50:00 But there are people much smarter than you and I who are actually starting businesses, multi-million dollar businesses. We're a bunch of chumps because we identified this trend so early. We could have been all over this one! Fake balls are a real business and Greg Miller has made a fortune in the weirdest place ever a dog's private parts. What I'm doing is developing testicular implants for pets 64-year old Greg Miller calls his home outside Kansas City the house that Nudicles built as his bulldog Humphrey runs around the place and you'll hear him breathing in the background a lot, Miller explains he created Nudicles over 20 years ago when his first dog a bloodhound named Buck ran away He was gone for four days

1:50:48 I'm going to start tearing up because it was the most hideous four days of my life. Buck was found, but he'd been chasing the scent of a female dog. I thought, My God if i don't get him neutered this is gonna happen again so called my local vet. I said, don't they make implants? He says well Greg i've been a vet for 45 years and that's the craziest damn thing i've ever heard of! Do dogs really care yes they do when box did get neutered that fateful day i brought him home he went to clean himself he loved to do that this slurping noise it was so freaking obnoxious

1:51:33 He looked down and saw that they were gone. He was telling me, they're gone! What happened? Miller convinced the veterinarian to help him develop an implant for Buck and other dogs... ...to make them feel whole or at least make their owners feel better about neutering them It took two years and over a hundred thousand dollars of his own money And money from a few local investors To develop and market Neuticals The original Neuticals were made out of hard plastic-like material So people started calling and saying, my dog's nauticals are clacking when he walks. These are up to $469 a pair. $469? Yes Wow! The latest nauticals are silicone with a textured surface to prevent scar tissue Biggest animal you've nauticaled? An elephant Ah there ya go What a genius idea Yeah if your preoccupied with dog balls

CHAPTER 28 / 43 Discussion

Frontier Airlines Service Dog Altercation, Great Dane

An altercation occurred on a Frontier Airlines flight to Orlando involving a deaf couple and their Great Dane service dog. A passenger allegedly punched the dog and the pregnant owner after the animal stood up, leading to a physical confrontation that has been referred to the FBI for investigation.

frontier airlines· service dog· great dane· orlando· fbi

1:52:31 Well that's why we didn't come up with it last clip. This is a serious one Then I'm glad that I could finally get one of these on record the problem with people Really feeling privileged about their dog, and you know we're seeing now some backlash against the emotional support animals on airplanes It really can put real service animals and their owners into odd situations. So there are people who absolutely need a service dog, some as blind but also if you're deaf

1:53:10 There's a number of reasons why you have an actual service dog that is approved that way and approved by the ADA. And this is what happened on a recent airline flight, and you'll see now the problems that real service dog owners users and the dogs themselves have. Tonight two families outraged and pointing the finger at each other after an incident with a service dog on a flight to Orlando spiraled out of control leading to this The owner of the service dog pushing a man he says hit his animal and pregnant wife. Passengers yelling, trying to intervene, crying kids in the middle of it all.

1:53:53 It all allegedly began on this Frontier Airline plane. In the cell phone video you see Matthew Sylve with his wife Hazel standing next to him, both of them are deaf. Sylve confronts Timothy Manley and his family even kicking Manley who is in a seat. In a report filed by the Orlando Police Department Sylve says Manly punched his Great Dane service dog and his pregnant wife after the dog awoke and stood up. That's a charge Manley denies. My wife right next to me has allergies to dogs, I had to push the dog away. Airlines have recently been trying to get a better grip on how to handle service animals on flights Delta United and American all

1:54:36 recently changing their policies. Tonight, the owners of the service dog want charges filed." Frontier Airlines say police were immediately notified to try and de-escalate this situation. Police have referred this to the FBI. So the way I understand this, this was an actual service dog and the airline should facilitate the service dog. And also make sure that if someone around them where they're going to be sitting has an allergy because oh my God no peanuts on the flight You know, that they need to know or maybe you should notify because there can be actual service animals. And I know exactly this is someone who might have been like me although i would understand hey this is a service animal A real one and he went get out of here stupid great dang guy! That's what happened an irritated guy it was all the crap going on and all the privileged a-holes bringing their emotional support animals onto the aircraft

CHAPTER 30 / 43 Discussion

Muhammad Ali, TSA No-Fly List Issues

A US citizen named Muhammad Ali reports constant travel and financial friction due to his name triggering security systems. Ali faces automatic secondary screenings (SSSS) at airports and frequent holds on PayPal transactions, highlighting the ongoing issues faced by individuals with names flagged by government watchlists.

muhammad ali· tsa· no-fly list· paypal· secondary screening

1:57:54 No, that was anticlimactic. I don't think so! Yeah you had the dog ball thing going on and now you got somebody complaining It's new information So i got a note too it's from uh Dune Muhammad Ali Yes Now this guy says 888 and the reason i want to bring this up is because this is something that was kind of happening with you And there used to be this guy they were doing news stories about me i think his name was Thomas Johnson And every time, and they brought a bunch of these Thomas Johnsons on the 60 Minutes show. And they were all having the same hassle with the TSA no-fly list. So this guy Muhammad Ali he says... So PayPal pulls oh no we can't, he's under investigation!

1:58:43 So I sent him a note back, and said they won't take your thing. And he says because you mentioned Ramadan and it had some comments in there. He says Ramadan in the comment had nothing to do with the hold he says PayPal always puts a hold on all my transactions whenever I purchase from eBay donate to no agenda or purchases good from other websites using PayPal I always get the messages below I think it's just my name that triggers their system because whenever I travel, my boarding pass always has SSSS secondary screening selection. It's obvious he has a terrorist name and looks like a terrorist. He might look like one or not. For his protection!

1:59:28 In addition, wherever I go through immigration when arriving in the United States, I'm instantly sent to the secondary immigration and I'm a US citizen. I've been there a lot as a US citizen and here's here's the thing you don't say... You don't hold up your passport and say doesn't this give me the right to enter the country? That's very bad thing to say it's cost me several hours of waiting around in that little room with mismatched furniture It's not a good thing to do. I'm sorry about that, man. This sucks." No one ever talks about THAT!

CHAPTER 31 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Mailing Address, Check Writing Instructions

The show provided instructions for listeners who prefer to donate via physical checks or money orders rather than digital systems. Contributions can be mailed to the No Agenda Show at Box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530, as some supporters face technical issues with PayPal or email subscriptions.

no agenda· el cerrito· mail orders· donations· mailing address

2:00:04 No, no. You know what? He says he's gonna write checks which brings me to the check writing comment I've been meaning to make for the last few weeks. Okay! Don't get the newsletter you wouldn't know this this is the problem we're having We are getting probably less checks than we have for a while and less cards and other notes which we actually enjoy got a couple today If you want to send a check to the show instead of go through one of the systems, PayPal or PopMoney or whatever. You write and the checks should be made to no agenda show or just no agenda and they are mailed to box 339

2:00:48 El Cerrito, that's E-L-C-E-R-I-T-O California 94530. That's Box 339 El Cerrito California 94530 you can back this tape up if you need to. Just hit rewind on the tape. You can also use a pencil insert it into the little hole and just spin it back Now, so for people that don't know that because a lot of people just will not refuse to get the email. They don't want the email they stop subscribing once they get it. They don't get to see the pictures of Stormy Daniels clone and some of these other things we have or their emails gets lost and never get the email I've run into people like that because you can check on who's ever opened the email. Ah! You're tracking them

2:01:34 Well, MailChimp's tracking them. I'm just looking at the data So anyway so i'm sorry about that we do have Some we have a lot of muslim listeners with middle eastern names and i'm sure he's not they all get boned They all get yeah Oh no it's horrible. I mean it would almost make you want to go to bitcoin for him Yeah maybe muhammad l yeah muhammad ali that'll be the day huh john Yes, that'll be the day. I said what day that we take Bitcoin well We should have taken it when we had the opportunity Nah well there were no exchanges to be fair. I guess now it's easier Yeah, all right um I have a some backup on we have of course producers everywhere and I've been talking about the issue with the

CHAPTER 32 / 43 Discussion

Maryland Crab Industry, H-2B Visa Shortage

Maryland's seafood industry is facing a crisis due to a shortage of H-2B visas for seasonal foreign workers. Crab processors on Hoopers Island warn that without these "crab pickers," the quality of the market will suffer, as local labor is unavailable to perform the specialized manual task of picking crab meat.

maryland· h-2b visas· crab pickers· seafood industry· labor shortage

2:02:34 H2B visas and how it is affecting certain types of businesses in the United States. Have a listen to this, and let's see if we can come up with some obvious solutions. As these shiny silver tables inside places like Russell Hall Seafood in Hoopers Island lie waiting so do watermen in other Eastern Shore counties. It's weekend seller crabs! Like Bucky Chance... It's not upon us yet but it's fast approaching doesn't break loose, we'r impacted after a record n filed this year. The U. S security turned to a lott many Hooper's Island Cra says the impact of no ca

2:03:18 crab pickers this season will soon reach north into Talbot and Queen Anne's County, for example. And the rest of Maryland not just for watermen but consumers to it's a very delicate balance that could be thrown out of kilter chance says without crab pickers smaller and lighter crabs will soon flood the market mixing in with the larger marketable crabs making it yes cheaper to buy crabs but also less bang for the buck. They are legal crabs It's jus the quality is not quite as good. Most of the pickers would be here by now, it should have been here about two weeks ago and like the Waterman Dorchester County Councilman Tom Bradshaw says with their hands tied at the local and federal levels they're waiting to we as a council there's nothing we can do about it except stay in constant contact with our federal leaders

2:04:05 waiting for the release of 15,000 more visas that could finally bring the crab pickers here. But even then... I don't even think it would be a drop in the bucket. Chan says this situation is bad. It's potentially very bad! Getting worse as the clock ticks by Now you would know more about this but what do crab pickers do? But before you go on, a couple of things about that clip. One is the variation of the clip that you played on the last show about this crash issue... No! I had no clip Oh, you discussed it then? Yes. That's what I said! I have some backup on what i was telling you on the last show. Now let us go back to where this came from... What kind of a report...? What kind of package is this where you say like two words and then you throw in something like, oh god we got nothing going on and then you say two more words about it but there's a lot of this. There's a lot of this. I'm seeing a lot of this. In fact

2:04:58 One or two of your clips had it as well. Really quick, you know sometimes whipsaws It's like the whip saw taken to the extreme and they're just throwing it in every voice was offensively dumb Yeah I mean It's like one any report out at Texas that goes through the national news is somebody wants this was Merrill This was Maryland yeah Well, they sure make them sound like a bunch of hicks in Maryland too Yeah And because apparently all the crab guys are old talk like this cuz he can barely talk anyway So I found that offensive. You could tell a report and maybe have one or two people talk, not ten!

2:05:35 And okay, so you have a point to make about what can be done about this. Yeah well I had a question first What exactly does a crab picker do? Picks crabs From where from the ocean from a bunch... I'm assuming there's little but I don't know But i'm assuming and i'm speaking out of my ass That you're on a boat and you go out There's a big net with crab traps and you pull it You pick them out of the water and put them on the boat and take him back into the shore I mean gotta be something like that So why can't or there's a other people perhaps and you just pick them and sell them to somebody it seems like this is An opportunity for someone who has a big student loan There's no one else who can do this, but he wants a job. There's no one else who can do this We can't feed I'm sorry we're gonna have shit crab in the market because no one wants to pick the crab Is that where we're at?

2:06:31 Yeah, because everyone has a college degree and we can't do this. This is just a bunch of guys whining because they won't pay the extra 50 cents an hour Is that the problem though? That's my question I'm sure we have people who understand crabbing In fact maybe Dame Elise Garling does Did you get a limoncello? I did Best yet Oh well you've tried it I haven't tried it yet But she sent us limoncello with organic lemons from her aunt's place in Central Coast, California. And she of course is the... Well, she calls herself the Limoncello Babe but she is really about to go to Bristol Bay Alaska because she fishes for salmon. She's a salmon fisher. So maybe someone can tell us how much you can make? I thought on The Deadliest Catch those guys are making bank on the damn boat!

2:07:19 This is like a highly paid job. We have to look into this, we need an expert out there. Yeah exactly I know you always think, why is he going on about that? But there's something here. It's just something... Well, I don't think it's just the Krabs thing. No! No, its... Jeep alien workers is what these guys are looking for That's what I'm curious about. I can see if it was nuts and berries and stuff that's picked in your neck of the woods The big charge that was going on against Silicon Valley where they bring all these Indians in And don't you remember almost for years we'd hear because these guys are all out of jobs now I was working here at some chip company in Silicon Valley and i was told, I have to train my replacement. There's a guy from India with an H1B and I am out! Yeah, I remember that note. Alright well... There is a lot of this thing that was going on. It just continues. I'd like to know but like to know for sure the Obamas do not have to resort to crab picking

CHAPTER 33 / 43 Discussion

Higher Ground Productions, Obama Netflix Deal

Barack and Michelle Obama have officially entered the entertainment industry by signing a multi-year deal with Netflix under their new company, Higher Ground Productions. The former first couple will produce a mix of scripted and unscripted content, including documentaries and features, leveraging their significant influence in Hollywood.

barack obama· michelle obama· netflix· higher ground productions· hollywood

2:08:21 Any more than they're already doing here is the latest news on them yesterday on Twitter this from? Wait a minute TMZ wrong one. Here we go TMZ We're gonna move on move over Ron Howard Brian Glaser because the Obama's are coming to town well Slow down Harvey before you start celebrating, but yes Former president Barack Obama and Michelle Obama have signed a deal to produce A lot of content sounds like pretty much anything they want. Scripted, unscripted documentaries all sorts of things The company is called Higher Ground Productions and they are going to be producing presumably a slew of programs They are officially in showbiz! They are in show business hook line and sinker And this... by the way

2:09:14 I don't know how you did because he's been barking about it for a year now. For a year? That he believes that Barack Obama will be running a studio sometime in the near future. One thing though, Obama is going to have if you ask me, are a flood of the finest talent in all of Hollywood begging to work with them. And so like there's no excuses for this thing not to be a success which I'm sure that it will because they're gonna have their people in this town to work with over the last eight years who've looked up to them." Sounds like a studio to me folks! Yeah hadn't considered that also hadn't heard that Harvey said that

2:09:58 That's a pretty good here is the here's the rub Obama has never worked today in his life never worked at a job Never work at a company. Never done anything like this let alone He hasn't even been a paperboy from what I can tell And he's gonna do this. He's gonna This is gonna not be successful He's gonna blow all the money and he's gonna put it away are you putting this in the book? Is this a red Booker Oh Okay, I'll be put in the Red Book did this really come to within now. I think first of all I think Barry and Mike they could put out a biggest turd and The first movie everyone will go see maybe yeah sure sure I'll go and see it But I hadn't considered him being A studio head why not? Yeah? Yeah just up there It's running a studio cannot be much different from community organizing

CHAPTER 34 / 43 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Global Donation Reports

The show reviewed various listener notes and donations from across the globe, including a $133.33 contribution from Andres Fortuna. Other topics included the convenience of USPS money orders for those without checks and a "Ramadan Mubarak" greeting to Muslim producers supporting the program.

andres fortuna· spokane· usps· money orders· ramadan mubarak

2:10:57 I would agree with that. We do have some people to thank for show 1036, including Andres Fortuna who came in he's all Fortuna by the way $133 and 33 cents He says this donating thing is as addictive as cocaine. I had to do it again Yes, this is a good meme yeah, I like it There's one thing he said Yeah I think you might have gotten sidetracked during the show with the advice or maybe you forgot if you get a chance during the next Show or short response to this email would be appreciated As always thanks for the service you provide for brain sanity. I'm a four dollar week producer since 2015 every bit counts and

2:11:53 That was yeah, he sent 133 33 and he became a knight on the previous show And he needed some travel karma for the family and himself. He says now just kidding for the family Oh fam I got you fam okay? We'll put that at the end Thank You very much Andre on Andres Sir Donald of fire bottles the Baroness Silicon Valley Spokane who's Spokane Yeah, let's pronounce Spokane One, two three four five set a note in and we have to read because it's on the United Federation of planets. That's our guy. Yeah. Dear Wheeler and Woolsey this donation marks the completion of my nightly quest listening to all the no agenda episodes I know that John especially does not recommend this but i found it worthwhile to observe how the program developed In example I thought that Adams mispronunciation

2:12:53 So what is it? Celebrities. Yeah, which is own invention It was but but discovered that he borrowed it from an announcer on China TV Sure Oh No you're right He is right That's where we got it from that's where you got it from yes I wonder if we the question is do I still have that no I don't think so say now But yeah, here's him yeah Cheers and beers WA 60 mi 73 73 is keto 5 alpha Charlie Charlie So you it's funny how we lose track of the origins with certain things that are part and parcel of the show Yes in field a hundred Michael Mandel Bethlehem, Pennsylvania hundreds Christopher Hinkle 100 this is this is your sustaining contribution. I

2:13:54 Noel Vincente. Now this is another guy who sent in a note, he's sending 100 bucks in from Roxbury New Jersey. Your old stomping grounds. Not quite but yeah I had to read this I was listening to DHM Plug when John mentioned how the US Postal Service post office can do money orders. That's when I felt so stupid, I ran out of checks and that's what stopped me from donating! I always have cash at hand and it is so easy for me to go to the local post office. The show is so important in my time, I don't need to watch any news and when I do I can see the BS they feed me. Keep up with great work." So I realized that

2:14:35 that a lot of people didn't know that the post office has mail. You can get mail orders, money orders there." Well it's concerning that he stopped donating because he ran out of checks! That's...that's a concern right there I mean it's too much friction There is too much friction in the world to support The Show My goodness well, yes us your money order is totally possible the postal money orders coastal money Dude named Muhammad Ali our buddy there He's just read the note from 8008 and he said it's a belated Ramadan Mubarak to all the Muslim producers mark Milliman 808

2:15:21 This is what a depressing newsletter. Thank you, thank you very much. Sir Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale Arizona 7575 Curtis Barton 6969 Stephen Wittig in Fall Creek Wisconsin 69 Eric Bird in Baltimore Maryland 6666 Catherine from San Francisco and San Francisco 6652 personal note set to Adam Scott Richardson, 6006 in New Orleans, Louisiana or New Orleans or New Orleans or whatever you want to call it. Sir Jude 5555 and now the following are $50 donors we don't have a lot of donors today starting with sir Patrick Maycombe in New York City Mike Shane and Doylestown Pennsylvania Alex Delgado in Aptos California James Butcher and Dalwallinu Washington Western Australia Australia

2:16:17 Michael Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough, Oregon. Kenneth Lindbergh in Miami, Florida. Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan. John Prebuzz in Washington DC. That's it that concludes our group of well wishes for show 1036 Okay, well I'm just making a note here. Yeah and you're making the same note yeah okay we're making notes we're taking notes for taking names what we do thank you to everybody who supported the show today it is incredibly appreciated we love doing this show we love we love it which is love it

CHAPTER 35 / 43 Discussion

Birthday Celebrations, Knighting Ceremony Conclusion

The show celebrated birthdays for listeners Curtis Barton and Francois before concluding the formal knighting of Sir Gian and Dame Mello. New knights and dames are encouraged to visit the No Agenda Nation website to claim their rings and share photos of their new status with the community.

curtis barton· francois· knighthood· damehood· no agenda nation

2:16:58 So you keep us going and that's appreciated. Another show coming up for you on Sunday, please remember us for your postal money orders at... javorac.org slash N A as requested Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma We've got a couple of birthdays to celebrate. Well, two today and one on May 26th that'll be

2:17:34 And he says happy birthday to his favorite brother, Francois. He turns 40 on May 26th. Curtis Barton celebrates today! He gave himself some Swazilov 6969 karma for that and Sir Nubbin says happy birthday to his dad who celebrates today as well Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! And let me grab my blade and if you could get yours we got a day man a night on the way. Lay put down the bongos Got it I got it Up on stage, please! Chris Dillon and Sandra Langston both of you are about to join the illustrious round table of the Knights and Dames here at the Noah Jenner Round Table because of your support of the program in amount of $1,000 or more. And I hear by proudly pronunsticate thee Sir Gian... Sir John? Sir Gian and Dame Mello

2:18:25 You now join as a knight in the day of the Noah Jenner roundtable free We've got hookers and blow-up boys and chardonnay pogging boy. Dame Elise Lee Mancello and salmon rabbit meat and goat milk dr Pepe in a quick handy we got bourbon and bong rips brisket and barrel aged copper ale Rubin s women and rosé gaseous and sake ginger ale and gerbil sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and mead all available here at the roundtable go over to know agenda nation comm slash rings fill out the forms Eric the show will get your ring to you as soon as possible please think about tweeting it out when you get it in we love seeing that and again thank you for making everything possible here without it we would be no there he'd be doing something else yeah we would be doing something else

CHAPTER 36 / 43 Discussion

Jackie Coakley, Number 33 Numerology Stalker

A woman named Jackie, who reportedly sent 65,000 text messages to a man, explained her actions through an obsession with the number 33. She cited various "33" connections, including the age of Jesus, the salt content of the Dead Sea, and the coordinates of Atlantis, as signs directing her behavior.

jackie coakley· numerology· 33· sedona· jesus

2:19:10 Did you... I wasn't going to do this story, but now have a reason to. Did you see that lady who had stalked the guy with 65 thousand text messages? Yes, that's not new to stories. That was a couple of weeks ago wasn't it? Yeah well yeah it was about a week and a half ago but the thing that I didn't realize is she had all these crazy things about 33 Oh really? Yeah, she's a real numerology nut. All I knew is that...I always thought it was kind of an interesting story that she was stalker since she just drives this guy crazy! But then when you hear her talk about the number 33 its like WHOA! Hi guys! Hi! I'm Jackie

2:19:51 Okay. You want to ask me questions? Yeah, I'm hungry. Alright go ahead. Why did you start from the beginning how did you wind up here? I wound up here on a road trip and i was following the number 33. I used to wake up every day and every night at 333. It was always 333, 3333 So I kept following the number and said why am i following the number 33? And I spoke to a psychic and she told me She told me that I had the same birth chart as Jesus so then I said okay...I look up Jesus He was 33 when he came to be so I'm like that's a 33 My left eye axis is 33 The location where I came from in Miami was 33111 This zip code here not the coordinates on the map it's 3311

2:20:33 So he said, you should probably go to Sedona. It's in Arizona I said i never heard of it Its the 33rd most spiritual place Then I find out that he does stuff for the Dead Sea The Dead Sea has thirty three percent salt in it Walt Disney's club is called Club 33 They're called this because their location of Atlantis Is inside the earth The coordinates are thirty-three thirty three Once Twice Thirty Three times Are crazy And I We have the best producers Sir Chris of course in Australia Full version available at the end of this program I just want to love him so much. That's it and if he doesn't like it then I'll go home, and I love my ex-boyfriend Couldn't believe she had more 33 references than I've ever even come up with

2:21:40 Was fantastic. I don't know, I think we covered most of those except for the Atlantis. I didn't know about the eyeball! It's on a 33... That's what she was talking about. She had something like a 33 degree axis or I dunno but 33 what a magic number It's just, it helps. Let's see if we can trigger anybody. Go stock! We have people that donate because they get a bill or go to the grocery store and the bills $33.33 Or they get parking spot 33 or there is seat number 33 Yeah its very triggering. 33 sections on the United Nations map

CHAPTER 37 / 43 Discussion

Russian World Cup Doll, Visual Gag Controversy

A souvenir nesting doll for the 2018 Russian World Cup caused a stir online due to the suggestive placement of a red whistle in the doll's mouth. While some questioned if the image was a hoax, the "raunchy" doll was reported on by RT and other outlets as a viral visual gag.

russia· world cup 2018· matryoshka· whistle· rt

2:22:25 We could go on forever. Yes, and we probably will did you see the Russian World Cup doll? Yeah I did! The one with the whistle? No, let me see. Let me look again because somebody's telling how to show you the advice and you've never seen the Atlanta Olympics doll but... Well this is one of their quintessential souvenirs I always call them babushka dolls but that's not it It's the matryoshka what is that? Matryoshtoyka? Yeah so its a babushka doll One fits into the other Now take a look at the picture I'm sure you've seen the nesting doll for the World Cup

2:23:11 I believe that's meant to be a whistle in the doll's mouth. Is this the one with like, it has a fox or something on its blue background? Well the doll is blue and holding a soccer ball and blowing on a whistle. Now look at that... Look at the whistle again! Well he's not blowing anything into the doll I'm looking at. Oh you got the wrong doll He's just decided, he says Russia 2018 got the sucker done. He's like... I'm gonna send it to you on Skype. I don't even know if he is holding a whistle or giving thumbs up? No no yeah i'll just send the link to you on skype. I like this little fox though! Get that get the link on Skype Yeah It will be worth it. I mean its visual gagging Are sure this would now that see all these things Im up, I've got images up are you sure your not haven't been suckered by hoax anything as possible but it doesn't matter it's a real image

2:24:09 I got one of the bunches that starts off with a bunch of bathing beauties. Yeah now scroll down Oh this thing yeah, with it with the thing in its mouth with a whistle. Yeah, or is it a whistle? Yeah, I know what you're saying It's very it looks like a red penis Yes You don't think that's true. I'm wondering whether it's true well This is coming from our teeth so RT question, what's raunchy Russian World Cup doll causes blushes on internet? I don't know if this is the official doll. That's the problem. I don't know either but i thought it was funny Then they have the russian team in cartoon form all sucking on this thing Yeah It's funny you should put that in the show notes yeah of course its in the show notes hello people only go to the show notes for porn and you can search at search dot na shownotes dot com

2:25:13 Find your Russian nesting doll. I'm glad you're ready, but that's our lewd segment for today show about all I got For lewdness. I like this little fox animal though or whatever it is looks like a dog Maybe hmm. I haven't seen that one anybody can get me one of those I said there would be appreciated if the FIFA World Cup Russia official mascot souvenir wolf plush toy mmm yum It's only $17 on eBay Alright, I got one for you. This is the galls me clip. I hate this!

2:25:50 Eggs are now good. Oh, yeah! Back with some news to keep in mind for breakfast tomorrow morning there's been a lot of back and forth over the years about whether eggs are good or bad because of their cholesterol but a new study published today by the BMJ journal Heart claims eating an egg a day may reduce your cardiovascular risk and cut your risk of stroke by 26 percent Wait a minute first we're told not to eat eggs at all Because they're horrible. Yes, and now we want to eat one a day hold on a second after the eggs are horrible You're gonna die They formed the egg Council of America And then they decided that it would be better to spend some money and have people talk in other words what you're telling me Is this all is everything? We hear is all bullcrap It's all dependent on how much money people spend to kind of make their point you nailed it I am disgusted you nailed it

CHAPTER 38 / 43 Discussion

Swarm Technologies, Unauthorized Satellite Launch

A startup called Swarm Technologies launched four tiny "Space Bee" satellites for internet connectivity despite being denied a license by the FCC. The agency, which oversees satellite broadcasts and launches, is investigating the unauthorized deployment, which was tracked by amateur radio operators.

swarm technologies· fcc· space bees· satellites· amateur radio

2:26:48 I follow the a lot of the amateur you know of course you and I are both hams am a licensed to amateur radio professionals Yes, I'd love that amateur radio professionals And there's no sense but it's not all a lot of the satellite stuff. You know I've done some Space shuttle you know bouncing stuff off and their repeater and all kinds of fun stuff But there was a group who? wanted to launch I think it's four tiny satellites that would be used for internet connectivity to beam down to Earth and they're called Space Bees. And, I didn't know this but if you want...you can't just buy a spot on Elon's payload and launch some satellites into space. You have to have the license from the FCC! Yeah? They oversee satellite launches

2:27:50 There is broadcasting going on. Well, they had told this outfit you don't you're not allowed to and they launched them anyway And so they're up there and there's a couple of hams who have been They're sending little blips out So their hearing and it's on the frequency apparently that is expected so they're there and I don't know if they're actually going to do when you know swarm technologies in name of the company Yeah, and their idea again was To provide some blanket internet. I think you can do with four satellites but But I didn't know that the FCC is in charge of that. You can't just send stuff into space, isn't space like where everybody's in space? I mean... I don't know if this story is correct Well the FCC believes it is Well maybe some aspects but I don't believe the Defense Department when they sent up those spy satellites has to clear with the FCC because then they would be giving information away that's top secret No, I'm sure they can do whatever they want but as a civilian you can't do that apparently

CHAPTER 39 / 43 Discussion

Oliver North, NRA Presidency and Ritalin Comments

Newly appointed NRA President Oliver North attributed the "culture of violence" in America to the over-prescription of Ritalin to young boys. North argued that treating the symptoms of violence through gun control is ineffective compared to addressing the pharmaceutical drugging of youth, drawing widespread criticism from medical professionals.

oliver north· nra· ritalin· school shootings· second amendment

2:28:51 Must be some good stuff going on up there. Well, I'll tell you this, Inside Russia's first sex robot brothel is open to woo Randy England fans heading to the World Cup. Thanks! You're doing complete different work during the show. Sorry. Completely different stuff. This is a disgusting story in the sun. All right let me see...I've got well Oliver North getting laughed at universally For what? Well, he is now the president of the National Rifle Association. Oh Jesus! He's in charge of this so that is a strike against him right there

2:29:28 And, boy he's out there saying things that are just crazy! The problem we've got is we're trying like the dickens to treat the symptom without treating the disease. and in this case isn't the second amendment. The disease is youngsters who are steeped in a culture of violence they'd been drugged in many cases nearly all these perpetrators are male and they're young teenagers in most cases. And they've come through a culture where violence is commonplace, all we need to do is turn on the TV go to a movie if you look at what has happened to the young people many of these young boys have been on Ritalin since they were in kindergarten now I am certainly not a doctor I'm a Marine

2:30:15 So he says, hey you know these kids and it's true boys in particular. You're all boy like a crazy kid yes settle down to get him on the riddle and get them on early and then maybe expand that later when they get depressed from being on Ritalin give them some other stuff Zoloft or Xanax yeah but he's being ridiculed for it. Yeah, I wonder who's behind that. Drug companies march on you know the same guys who hate Elon. It means all the same it's a cabal of guys sitting there in their ivory tower just doing whatever they want to do don't care about us. All right well onto odd stories another one about involving a male this is a crazy story floating around this is the parent

CHAPTER 40 / 43 Discussion

Rotundo Family Lawsuit, Evicting 30-Year-Old Son

Mark and Christina Rotundo successfully sued their 30-year-old son, Michael, to force him to move out of their home after he ignored five formal eviction letters. Despite Michael's claims of running a "web business," a judge ruled in favor of the parents, ordering the son to vacate the premises.

michael rotundo· eviction· lawsuit· parenting· new york

2:31:01 evicts their own son. Mark and Christina Rotundo telling a judge through an attorney that their 30 year old son must move out of their home they have no obligation to provide support he's well over the age of 21 in a lawsuit they say they have sent him five letters in the past two months like this one you must leave this house immediately telling him you have to work even giving him more than $1,000 dollars to find a new place there There is no reason for these people to have him in their home. Michael says he's planning to leave in a few months I'm not a burden to them in the home they don't provide laundry or food it's really a moot point for them to seek me to be ejected The judge, in the end, siding with the parents

2:31:56 It's only kind of like that too, but that's just so ridiculous and David tonight Michael says he has his own web business and plans to appeal But it did not go unnoticed that when he left the courthouse today. He went right back to his parents house David we'll see how long that last you thank you when we come back tonight. Why did you pick this clip? That's interesting but doesn't seem nuts at the parents like get the hell out of the house I I think it's interesting that they had to sue him. And, I also think it is interesting as a thing as well that they shouldn't worry about me because I've got a web business! Well, that's internet money baby! He probably has got a web business and he's doing webcam work and collecting those electric scooters and charging them at night...he's golden! Yeah? What's the problem? He's gainfully employed. No, no, no. I just thought it was an interesting story We have another one One of things I gotta kick out on PBS

CHAPTER 41 / 43 Discussion

NFL National Anthem Policy, Flag Code Violations

The NFL established a new policy requiring players to stand for the National Anthem or remain in the locker room. Commentators noted that the league itself frequently violates the U.S. Flag Code by using the flag on uniforms and laying it flat on the field, suggesting the policy is more about television production than patriotism.

nfl· national anthem· flag code· supreme court· lz granderson

2:32:52 They had some discussion about the NFL made a rule saying that everyone's gonna have to stand. Were they going to get fined? Yeah, yeah! They finally said... Well it's always been in their rule book. We read the rule book. It has, it's funny we noticed that before but now they've made a big deal out of it so this guy they had on very unusual commentator on News Hour with Judy And LZ Granderson, he's a ex-football player. He's got dreads and he's not easy to understand but he makes all the points I've been making about this and then it... Sorry. I'm sorry now I gotta follow up so let's play what he says We're glad the owners met with players privately we're glad they agreed to donate tens of millions of dollars to those causes we just don't want politics on the field What do you say to those folks?

2:33:43 Hold on a second, stop. Stop playing the next- This is not Judy. It's somebody else. Thanks for pointing it out, yeah? It's the Judy backup. It's the Judy real doll. What do you say to those folks? Stop playing The National Anthem! I mean The National Anthem is politicizing sports and no by the way if you really are concerned about respecting or disrespecting the flag then perhaps you should probably get get, re-familiarize yourself with the U.S. flag code because you'll see multiple violations that the NFL and other leagues as a matter of fact do in terms of how the flag is to be treated we aren't supposed to have football uniforms with flags on them We're not supposed to have the flag laid out flat! We are supposed to having the flag on tickets or beer cans and things of that nature all these things that you can find in an NFL stadium so if you really want to stick to rule of law about

2:34:38 Disrespecting the flag then let's be authentic with it I tend to think is more about what the players are protesting than the actual protest itself Wow, okay. I got a follow-up too go ahead you Go I got something to say about all the guys right It's been it's politicized when you play the national anthem stop playing it correct Then also the flag is treated like crap at these events they have this huge fight They let it hit the dirt they drop it on pretty much drop it on the ground and And they have this big one, they roll out this giant flag a lot of times. And it's not done correctly. He is right everything that they do is a violation of the flag code. They're supposed to use on the uniforms and all this other stuff and then real irony in this whole thing was a little clip they put, a little piece of information they played at the end of this which was only since 2009 were the players on the field on any broadcast game

2:35:35 Before 2009, they were always in the locker room anyway because the TV network couldn't time it with the players being out there and all the rest of it. So they had them stay inside so this never would have been a problem if they stuck to the old way of doing things. Okay couple of things yes The flag code is violated all the time but there've been some very important Supreme Court cases and you can wear a flag, and you can burn the flag. You do whatever you want but it is certainly in violation of the Flag Code The this has nothing to do And the owners as far as I know did not say this is violating Flag code And he just made that up because he just made it up

2:36:17 It has been a rule that they play the national anthem, players are meant to be there. There's certain conduct as expected and it's all because it's a TV show! And that guy was at least a part of the TV show. It's a TV show and on our TV show we're gonna have America flags We're gonna have all kinds of America stuff and we're gonna jets flying over...it's a TV SHOW!!! That's all that it is and these guys don't want their TV show dictated by the actors they hire. It's that simple I think you're right now about the national anthem Which I? Completely credit you in saying that that is on its way out, and I wasn't even gonna play this clip So just play a little bit then I'll shuttle to the end this was um

CHAPTER 42 / 43 Discussion

Keith Ellison, This Land Is Your Land Performance

Representative Keith Ellison performed a parody song about Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump before leading a crowd in singing "This Land Is Your Land." The performance highlighted a growing movement among some political groups to promote the Woody Guthrie classic as a more inclusive alternative to the current National Anthem.

keith ellison· woody guthrie· vladimir putin· national anthem· minnesota

2:37:02 Representative Keith Ellison, congressman from Minnesota. And I guess he was some rally and he puts on a wig and is all dressed up like Trump and he does...I'll give you little bit of the song. I'm a nice honest man! I just want straight shooting If they wanna be called a stable genius? I just call my best friend Vlad Putin Vlad Pudin He could use a lot of help from Chris Wilson there in Australia. I'm telling you, you should play the whole thing this sounds very good it almost sounds like a good counter to Let's Get Social. Vlad Putin! My buddy Vladimir. Vladimir. I love that Vladimir Putin. But there was no collusion

2:38:00 I just won the vote fair and square. Any collusion? I didn't buy the election It goes on for quite a while, so I'm going to shuttle ahead everyone's all happy and then watch what he does What are we going to do? Let's transition. Oh, you're so great! Wooo! You made fun of him! Wow! Awesome! Oh wait a minute let me just uh... transition here everybody let's get patriotic on your ass come on stand up everybody you know what to do you know the words let's go this land is your land this land is my land from California

2:38:39 See, you were right. This land is your land this land is my land the new anthem and they're promoting it everywhere well there's actually four or five options here we have America the beautiful which I think this is the one that never went because the right wingers will not accept a Pete Seeger no communist no no no it's not Pete Seeger it's Arlo Guthrie isn't This land is your land, this land is my land. Look it up." I'm pretty sure it's Arlo Guthrie but I could be wrong... I'm afraid to use my AI now so I'm just doing it old school Are you looking anything up or are you just waiting for me to do it? I already know Woody Guthrie! I was right haha It's Woody Guthrie! Haha, you dick! That's okay fine fine fine

CHAPTER 43 / 43 Discussion

China Sonic Attacks, US Consulate Guangzhou

The U.S. State Department reported that a diplomatic staffer in Guangzhou, China, suffered "abnormal sensations of sound and pressure" similar to the unexplained sonic ailments reported by diplomats in Cuba. The symptoms, which resemble a mild concussion or brain damage, have prompted a health alert for Americans serving in China.

china· guangzhou· sonic attack· cuba· state department

2:39:41 All right, give me one more John. I'm gonna get out of here. Yes. Well, let's see we got other things to do There's the Cuban sound attack which is kind yeah you put that in the newsletter? I'm very interested what the latest is The US State Department says that a diplomatic staffer in China has reported what it calls ab abnormal sensations of sound and pressure. It happened at the U.S. consulate in the southern city of Guangzhou, the department says the symptoms were similar to a mild concussion. The same unexplained ailment affected a number of Americans in Cuba last year. Don't you find this peculiar? And that again not reported on

2:40:25 So it's kind of the same thing. Similar symptoms, they have dizziness and disorientation. The pounding, the noise that concussion results when you go to the doctor they think you have a concussion? Brain damage what's going on here? Oh simple MKUltra baby I don't think they employed that tactic Yes well they're not the only ones who are good at stuff but now we got Gina running the CIA so woo! Waterboarding and MKUltra on deck. All right, everybody thank you very much for being here Thank You troll room it's appreciated that really is and thank you to our artists

2:41:11 Forgot to mention noagendaartgenerator.com and thank you to our supporters remember us at Dvorak org slash na will be back on Sunday with another episode and As always I'm coming to you from the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo downtown Austin, Texas capital of drone star state FEMA region 6 on the maps if you're looking for governmental maps only Until Sunday in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the Zephyr was on time and everything's fine...I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday right here no agenda until then as always Adios! Mofos! I need a cab Oh yeah There is one Hi guys Hi I am Jackie

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