Episode 1013 · Sunday, 4 March 2018

Hypogonadism

Global trade wars ignite over steel tariffs while Silicon Valley faces a legislative reckoning that could dismantle the open internet as we know it.

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President Donald Trump triggered global trade alarms this week by announcing a 25% tariff on steel and a 10% tariff on aluminum. The sudden policy shift, reportedly sparked by internal White House friction following Hope Hicks' testimony, has sent shockwaves through the World Trade Organization and prompted Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to defend his nation’s trade surplus. While critics like Senator Ben Sasse label the move protectionist, proponents like Ben Stein argue that domestic metal production is a national security imperative for potential future conflicts.

Technological and legal battles intensify as the Supreme Court hears arguments in the Microsoft Ireland case, weighing the implications of the CLOUD Act on international data privacy. Simultaneously, the House of Representatives passed SESTA-FOSTA legislation, a move that threatens the foundational liability protections of Section 230 for platforms like YouTube and Yelp. In the social sphere, Brad Parscale detailed how the Trump campaign utilized embedded staff from Facebook and Google to optimize digital outreach, while the FBI investigates allegations that Russian official Alexander Torshin used the NRA to funnel campaign funds. Further reports indicate that pedestrian fatalities have hit a 25-year high, potentially linked to smartphone distraction and the rise of high-potency marijuana.

Cultural shifts take center stage as the 90th Academy Awards face scrutiny over "woke" voting trends and plagiarism allegations surrounding The Shape of Water. A new study in the National Academy of Sciences warns that routine ibuprofen use may cause compensated hypogonadism in men, prompting Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak to suggest a return to aspirin. The episode concludes with the formal knighting of Sir Benonymous, a donor who champions the efficiency of 1.5x playback speed in the modern podcast era.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1013 Introduction, Weather and Penguin Discoveries

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1013 of the No Agenda show from Austin and Silicon Valley. They discuss the marketing behind "pasture-raised" eggs and an ant infestation in Dvorak's studio. The conversation shifts to a recent discovery of a massive colony of 1.5 million penguins previously thought to be threatened by climate change. They also note the "Siberian Beast" cold snap hitting Europe and the UK, contrasting it with previous predictions that snow would disappear from the British Isles.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· siberian beast· climate change· penguins· guano

00:00 What's your demo? You don't have enough people in that group. Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, March 4th, 2018. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1013. This is no agenda. The Russians are here and they're everywhere and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm here asking the proverbial question, what does pasture raised really mean? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Pasture raised. Is this for your chicken?

00:40 No, I just have a I just bought some eggs. It says pasture raised So so you mean the eggs were actually raised they weren't what they mean it doesn't mean anything is bullcrap. It's marketing, baby It's marketing. Yes marketing it is Hmm. It's like free-range. Yeah, well free-range is understood you get a little a little bit of grass to poop on that's about it Mm-hmm all right ants Here we are. Sunday. They got ants in the studio. No. Yeah, I'm taking them as... Have you ever not been under attack by ants in the studio? Most of the time. This is like the first time in a couple years. No, no, you've had ants in the studio just in the past six months. Well, maybe. Yeah, it's... What they're after though, I mean there's nothing up here. They're just roaming around stupidly.

01:36 It's too bad, baby, because... I got ants. It's nothing like that. Alright, end of show song again. Every time you have damn ants, gotta play that. It's just it's not like there's just like a bunch of a stream of them. They're just random ants roaming around Okay, so it's still in the early stages of the of the encirclement and attack of the siege Yeah, well you're living on it. Hey, did you see that? It was in the newsletter. There you go about the colony of penguins that no one knew about I found that distressing now is it really because it seems like they had seen guano which is a scientific word for poop and

02:19 They'd seen guano from their space satellites, which other ones would you have? And they'd been seeing this for a long time, only now it was the first time they went to investigate? How come they can't see a million penguins from the satellite? Well, I don't know. I'm asking you wrote it the newsletter was your discovery So for people who don't have the know wasn't my discoveries my discovery of the discovery Yes, well for people who do not subscribe to the newsletter go to any of our no agenda websites Like no agenda show comments subscribe. Tell us what was what what was this was the discovery? They discovered with this penguin that supposedly was going extinct and

02:57 a specific penguin, I can't remember the name, Arial or some crazy name, never heard of it. They found out that a colony exists on one of these islands and the colony consists of 1.5 million of these things. And they were stunned. What? Because they thought global warming was killing these things and that turns out they get tons of them. Yeah, the global, luckily it's back, not global warming but climate change, luckily. Where did I have this? There was some fabulous... So I have, well we have two, when we went to England for Thanksgiving we met up with some friends and those friends live out in Cornwall and they both got stuck. One of them was a nurse and she got stuck at the hospital, she couldn't come home and then the daughter was stuck at school or no at a friend's house and

03:45 We're talking about the horrible weather in Europe. Let's not say horrible, let's say cold weather, really cold. The Dutch are using the Amsterdam canals for transportation. That's how cold it is. And they actually have a name for it. I think it's called the Siberian beast. Yes, yes, the Cybee, the Cybeast. And because it is so much warmer at the pole, now I understand. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's how it works. It's 20 degrees warmer, I think they're talking about Fahrenheit, I don't know, than typical. Yeah, and that's why all of a sudden we have the site. And of course, it also brings in Russia, which I thought was cute. Yeah, you got to bring Russia in. It's Russia, it's their fault that we've... it's the Siberian beast.

04:39 Well, I don't know. I thought you were telling me when we began this show years ago that it was predicted that they would never see snow again except in a snow globe. That's right. In the British Isles. And they said that 12 years ago and they said it wouldn't happen by, I think it was even some crazy date like 2010 or 2012. So, well, that didn't turn out so well. Seems so. Seems like they were full of crap. Yeah. Alright, well that's our show everybody. Thanks for coming. I think that the main things what do we have? I've got a lot of Russia again from a whole bunch of different angles.

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

90th Academy Awards Predictions, "Get Out" and Woke Culture

The 90th Academy Awards are analyzed with predictions for Best Picture. Contenders discussed include Darkest Hour, Dunkirk, Lady Bird, and The Shape of Water, which is noted for plagiarism allegations. A clip from NPR suggests that Get Out will win because voters want to appear "woke." Dvorak remains skeptical, arguing that the older Hollywood voting demographic will favor more traditional films.

oscars· get out· lady bird· shape of water· jimmy kimmel· npr

05:23 More Mueller Mueller Mueller Mueller. Oh Oscars tonight. There you go. Oh, yes Let's get that out of the way before I go to our clips, right? So now the past number of award shows where we've been expecting to be a lot of political rhetoric It wasn't all that bad. Actually Golden Globes slipped a bit. They had some going but you know all the other show and then frankly they were quite boring and Well, when they tried to shoehorn it in, it became a problem. I think Kimmel's gonna definitely shoehorn a few of these guys, you know. Yeah, opening monologue maybe, maybe. But I have a new thing for the Trump list, which I'll talk about later. Okay. Which I think they're gonna try to slip in. Well, what do you think movie of the year will be? Maybe that's, maybe we should just go to the... Well, what's the list? You have the list in front of you. This is your segment. Oh, I'm sorry. It's your segment.

06:12 Oscar here we go. I've have it prepared Oscar a movie of the year No, we have a couple predictions. I'm sure will happen. Well. I have a clip with a prediction here. We go award here nominees 2018 Let's see best picture. We have call me by your name to me. It's a little too gay Maybe we have darkest hour Yeah, maybe. That's a maybe. It's a maybe, but it would be hard to give Gary Oldman that kind of cred because of all the reshoots and it was Kevin Spacey. I think it's too toxic with Kevin Spacey dropping out. It wasn't Gary Oldman you got the wrong guy. Darkest Hour?

06:55 Well, which is the one no, I'm don't you're thinking about who no space he dropped out of a different movie I'm sorry who dropped out of a darkest hour out of the nobody nobody No, but I think I think he's gonna win for Churchill, but that movie won't win Dunkirk. Nah, no Dunkirk. No, no, no, so we're the Getty the Getty kidnapping movie. Yeah. Oh wait, well then we have get out Get Out is a first movie by one of the guys, one of the comedians, comic director who did this as kind of a semi-comedy. They're just not going to give a new director the Academy Award for Best Picture even though that's a really good movie. Lady Bird?

07:40 Lady Bird has a lot of possibility to do in the Golden Globes. Did you like Lady Bird? I can't watch a movie like this. It's a what it's a chick flick. Yeah You got it. I watched it with Tina and the highlight was okay, but you know, she really like cry No, no, I cried about something else. I'll tell you about later Phantom thread would Phantom thread What was that one? I don't know. I haven't seen this. No, I don't know yet in here it Phantom Thread. Oh Phantom threat thread it needling thread phantom thread oh yeah I've heard I don't know what even what it's about okay so in other words this can't win now the post that yeah exactly didn't win anything it's the shape of water shape of water is plagiarized Oh from

08:29 Some guy, I think it was even a play or a novel, but he sued him, the writer. And it sounds a lot like the same exact movie. Woman who's a cleaning lady, maybe handicapped, I'm not sure about the original, falls in love with an alien. I know the concept of the story, but... Yeah, well it was plagiarized from this other guy's story. Yeah, like there's an original thought in Hollywood's bones anywhere. It was beside the point is that I think that that poisoned the movie. Okay, the lawsuit. Alright, gotcha. And then finally, this would be the one that I like the most of the ones I've seen which is pretty much only this one and Lady Bird. Three billboards outside of Missouri.

09:11 It has a shot. It has a shot. But if you believe the NPR kids, because the kids do talk over there on the NPRs, it's been a minute. They have a very clear prediction and they have a reason for it before we leave our film jet. We got to just talk The awards themselves the Oscars this weekend Do we have any idea about who is going to win? Why do you have to talk like this on and I was asking the same question is just so crazy shape of water The amphibian man love story. No, you don't. No, not so much. I mean, I love Get Out, but... I love Get Out. And I would love to see them grow up. Get out! And they had this big push last minute to try to win. They're everywhere. Audrey, I have to disagree. I think Get Out's gonna win.

10:01 Really? You do! Oh, what? Please tell me why. I think Get Out's gonna win. I think that you're seeing this... You're right, there's definitely something in the atmosphere these past couple days where you're seeing a major push for it. I think when a lot of people sit down to vote and they think to themselves, like, what movie did I enjoy watching the most this year? What did I have the most fun? Also, what would I just love to see named Best Picture? Also, what movie will make me look the most woke? Yes. There you go. There it is. You want to look woke? You vote for Get Out. I think they're right. Oh brother. I think they're right. No, they're not right. Hollywood is a bunch of old fogies. They're not going to go with what these kids think. No, Hollywood is not just a bunch of old fogies. The voters are old fogies.

10:50 I'm not talking about Hollywood, I'm talking about the voters. So it's gotta be some more traditional movie. Nah. I mean, it could be the... I'm going, I'm going, I like their thinking. But, I don't know why you would ever like... Why did you like their thinking? Because they talked me right down into it. My millennials! Stay woke! I think the stay woke vibe is there. Look, we're not in Hollywood, we don't know what's going on. We don't care. Well, we shouldn't be doing this segment, but I will I have a crossover segment, okay Technical term good one a crossover segment everybody Jennifer Lawrence was on the PBS NewsHour so they could plug her movie and red Scarlet to an extreme red sparrow. Yeah, what do an extreme? Really please

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

Jennifer Lawrence on Pay Equity, "Red Sparrow" and Hollywood Agents

Jennifer Lawrence's appearance on PBS NewsHour to promote Red Sparrow is critiqued regarding her comments on the gender pay gap. Lawrence reflects on why she didn't feel she deserved equal pay during the production of American Hustle. The discussion highlights that talent agents, rather than studio executives alone, negotiate these contracts. Criticism is directed at the interviewer for not questioning the role of Lawrence's representation in her past salary discrepancies.

jennifer lawrence· red sparrow· pbs newshour· pay equity· harvey weinstein· talent agents

11:45 And all she does is complain and I'm listening to this and they do mention the fact that she had a run-in with Harvey Weinstein and never really said too much about it. And ever since then she's getting two movies a year. Oh, interesting. So I'm just adding two and two personally but you can say or think whatever you want. But she likes to complain. I have it on good, uh, yeah, just play clip one. She won an Oscar for Best Actress for Silver Linings Playbook and was the highest paid actress in the world in 2015 and 2016. But a leaked memo revealed that on the film American Hustle, Lawrence and co-star Amy Adams earned much less than their male counterparts, Bradley Cooper and Christian Bale.

12:38 She published an essay that helped jumpstart a conversation about pay equity. My point of view on that essay was really just my own mentality on the whole thing. You know, why did I not feel like I deserved to be paid equally? I was more interested in that. And even though I have kind of a weird job That's probably not relatable to most I felt like my mentality on that if I'm feeling this way In Hollywood, I can't imagine how many women across the world must be feeling that why don't we? You know, I had won an Oscar by the time I was doing American hustle I had led movies to be number one at the box office. I was just curious Why did I not feel like I deserved equal pay you asked yourself and then you had she said something weird actually

13:24 You just listen to that again this last bit here time I was doing American hustle I had led movies to be number one at the box office. I was just curious Why did I not feel like I deserved equal pay? Why did I not feel that I deserved equal pay? Yes, I heard that too. Hey you asked yourself. What was the stop stop? Why did I not feel like it? I mean what she's saying is that she didn't feel that she needed equal pay. Yeah, yeah, that's what she's saying. I'm pretty sure she meant. No, I think that's what she meant to say. That's typically when it comes out like that. She's so confused. She's saying that, she's saying the problem is I didn't feel I needed equal pay until now. Now I feel that way but I didn't. I think that's a good point. Do you know what she made on this?

14:12 I don't know, 10 million? That is some ridiculous amount of money. She got so gypped! At the box office. I was just curious why did I not feel like I deserved equal pay? You asked yourself and then you asked the world. And then I asked women. The simple answer is MKUltra, baby. That's why. Well, she has elements of that for sure. But here's what I, when I heard her bitching and moaning in this clip and then the second part too, which will play after I make this commentary, because it's like an Ask Adam, I'm going to ask you. When she does, when any actor in Hollywood, high end especially, does a movie,

14:53 Do they go in with the producer of the movie and ask around and see what everyone's making so she can get as much or wants to get this? Who does that work? The agency. The agency does all the work? Yes, the agents at William Morris or creative artists or anyone of three or four. Yeah. And so why is she who is she blaming here? She never once mentions is the agent she's blaming old white men hello. It's her agent who made the deal. She's the one who accepted the deal. That's the way Hollywood works and it's not like you're getting a job and you get a, oh let's look down the fee schedule, woman, oh minus 20% what everybody else gets. They could have given, gotten her to get more money than the other guys if the guy was doing his job. Maybe it was a light role. I have no idea, never saw the movie. I think I can help you with this.

15:51 The way Hollywood works is you have your slate, you have your films, and sometimes these films sit on the shelf for many, many years. depending on the environment in which they want to release it. So I'm looking now at this movie, when was it actually produced? Well she already said, but just beside the point because she already said, she had already won her Academy Award and taken a number of movies to the top spot by the time she did this movie. She answered your question right in there. So the thing that still doesn't get brought up and why doesn't Jeffrey

16:29 at PBS. Say something about this. Say anything! Like, well isn't the agents the ones who make these deals and you just accept it or don't accept it? It's up to you. The agent does the deal. The agent does the deal. You don't. So what is she bitching about? She needs new agents. That's what you want? I think she's ready for new representation. And once again, here's where we come in, John. The Curry-Dvorak Agency. That's what we need to do. That would give us, we don't have to do anything except do deals and collect 10% or 15 in some cases. All right, let's go with the part two. Okay. You know, we have to reshape the way that we're treated. Things that were normalized before are no longer going to be normalized. Did it surprise you?

17:21 No, it didn't it didn't surprise me. I think there's a huge gap Between the amount of men and women that are working in higher level jobs and decision-making jobs And it's something that just has to change Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay Production started January 5th 2017 And it was originally scheduled to be released November 10th, 2017, but they delayed it. So this was done before the controversy kicked in at all, any of this. So now it makes sense. Why? What was I thinking? Look at this opportunity. I could have bitched and moaned about it right here and now.

18:08 Well, that's what she's doing. Yeah. No, it's it. She's yes. She is now. She's did the second clip She says things are good. You got to play the beginning of that again and tell me what is what is she saying? She She says things used to be normalized and now they have to normalize a new way or something. What is she talking about? You know, we have to reshape the way that we're treated, things that were normalized before. Okay, I'm gonna try and deconstruct it for you. We have to reshape, which is code for renegotiate, things that were normal before. Women get gypped. We've got to change that. Are no longer going to be normalized. So it's no longer going to be... Now it's time for the new normal, I guess. Did it surprise you?

18:47 No, it didn't surprise me. I think there's a huge gap. Who's this talking? the director of the Red Sparrow movie between the amount of men and women that are working in higher level jobs and decision-making jobs. Oh, see? Old white men. I told you that was the problem because it's the old white men decision-makers who are up in the upper echelons who are making the choices and screwing women out of money. And it's something that just has to change. It's got to change!

19:24 Yeah, it's true. It's got to change. All of this has to change. Yeah, we need women running everything. I'm all for it. And then she should get another agent. Why doesn't Jeffrey mention this simple fact of life in Hollywood? It's the agents who do these deals. It wasn't in his script. He's not a real journo. I don't know. I mean, why are you so surprised? I'm just I'm not surprised at all. That's the do and that in itself makes me annoyed. Okay. Why am I not surprised? Yes, I'm not surprised that they can't answer an obvious question that's sitting right there like us like a like a little ball on a T You just swing at it. You swing a number of times the balls not moving When he whiffs the ball once again, all right

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Section 230 Reform, SESTA-FOSTA and Human Trafficking Legislation

The House of Representatives passed legislation targeting online sex trafficking, specifically aimed at the website Backpage. This move threatens the liability protections of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Senator Rob Portman argues the internet has made trafficking "ruthlessly efficient," while tech advocates warn that eroding these protections could destroy platforms like YouTube and Yelp. The hosts view this as the beginning of the end for the open internet.

section 230· backpage· rob portman· human trafficking· communications decency act

20:12 I'm done with the Oscars for now. Okay, good. That's not glad to that's okay I made a rather bold prediction I believe on the last show where I said the social nets are in trouble and yes I'm doing more and more of this New speak I really here's my because you think it's gonna annoy me. Here's my take on it You're gonna annoy yourself so much doing this. I will say. Because you're gonna, here's what's gonna happen. It's gonna go into your regular speech as you're wandering around Austin. It's already happened. This is not a prediction. It's gorge, I tell you. It's gorge. You like that gorge? Mm-hmm. Oh, I got many. I wrote them down. It's gorge. It's just gorge.

20:55 Alright, we've talked about this bill Which is known as the cloud act? Only we didn't know was called the cloud act when we talked about the first time it was called the back page act You remember this? Yeah, I think so the back page act. Well, let's let's go back It was for back page the back page the the horde the whole yeah the horse. Yes the whore the whore index the whore index This is about section 203 of the Communications Decency Act, probably the most important piece of legislation that helped spurn and propagate the internet and commerce on the internet. And I'm thinking it was Bill Clinton who put it in place or it was under Clinton's regime that this came into view. And the idea was we treat services on the internet kind of like a library

21:51 where the person or the entity that is in control of the service is not liable for the speech that is exchanged on the service. And you can see why this is extremely important because you can't have the situation that we're going to right now, that's what they tried to stop, where Google has to bring in 10,000 people just to evaluate YouTube videos, stuff has to be taken down, there's all kinds of issues. Now they're doing a lot of this voluntarily, but the fear is you get on the slippery slope of legislating one little piece of it, i.e. the Whore Index,

22:31 And then before you know it, you can start tacking all kinds of stuff onto that. So the back page was fighting very hard with Google and Facebag and Twitter and everybody on their side to stop this bill and it just passed the house about seven years ago a group of high school students asked Rob Portman a Republican senator from Ohio to talk to them about human trafficking He'd heard about the problem before when he traveled across his state to learn about the opioid epidemic He'd met women and girls who were survivors of trafficking drugged by the people who had sold them for sex. I The more I learned about what was going on in my state and around the country, the more discouraging it got. Every year, human trafficking groups report thousands of cases, adults and children in the U.S. being forced into prostitution. To Portman, that number is growing for two main reasons. One, opioids.

23:23 But two, and primarily the internet. I would run into women and girls back home who would say, you know, it's moved from the street corner to the smartphone. And it's ruthlessly efficient. The most egregious offender is a website called Backpage, which is known for its adult services ads, but also as the number one place to search for victims of child sex trafficking. In the past, several victims tried to sue Backpage for facilitating the crimes. But in case after case, Backpage successfully claimed immunity and it relied on a law called Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. This law protects online platforms from liability over posts made by users. Perhaps the most important law in the development of the Internet we have today. Evan Engstrom runs the advocacy group Enjin, which represents Internet startups and companies like Reddit and Pinterest.

24:14 Others argue without Section 230, websites like YouTube, Facebook, Yelp would have long been sued out of existence. It says websites should only be liable for their users speech in very limited circumstances if they've created the speech, if they've developed the speech. But now Congress is planning to add new circumstances when people could sue websites. for knowingly promoting or facilitating sex trafficking. Engstrom argues this could prove counterproductive. He says websites, especially small ones, might decide to not even know at all what happens on their platforms to avoid liability. Portman argues the tech industry is overreacting about the law. To the point that they weren't willing to look at the obvious problem, which is that it's been abused to sell people online. He hopes the Senate will follow the House and vote on the sex trafficking bill in the next few weeks.

25:05 I made two mistakes in my intro. One, it was section 230, not 203, and it's not the CLOUD Act. That's a different act, which is what I'm going to talk about next. But you hear it. This is where it starts. And this is the part, this is the start of the demise. This has been the debate since day one. Yeah, but now we have legislation. It's passed the House. It's a start. It may not pass the Senate because those guys need, they're older guys. They need these girls. Well we have an amendment for one website that should stay. For Mitzi? One amendment. Mitzi Gillard, she needs to be exempt. Yeah, she needs freedom of speech on her website with her girls who are writing on her website. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I don't know, I mean, so now I shall go to the CLOUD Act.

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Microsoft Supreme Court Case, CLOUD Act and Data Privacy

Microsoft's legal battle with the U.S. government reaches the Supreme Court over the privacy of data stored on overseas servers in Ireland. Microsoft attorney Brad Smith argues for 21st-century laws to protect modern technology. The discussion covers the Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data (CLOUD) Act, which would require providers to disclose records regardless of physical location. Comparisons are made to the global banking system's lack of similar privacy protections.

microsoft· cloud act· supreme court· brad smith· european union· data privacy

25:56 which is another fine piece of legislation. This is a court case that's been going for a number of years, I think three or four years, and it is the United States government Who wants to subpoena records that Microsoft is storing? I have been trying to write a column about this for a month Oh good, and but I couldn't come up with anything that mood is interesting enough to write. I'm now all ears Yeah, I don't know if I can well, maybe we'll come up with something. It's interesting enough to write. Oh So the problem is they want to subpoena email, I think it's email records maybe from their outlook.com service of an individual who is either in Europe but certainly that person's data lives in Europe and the EU has... I think he's in the United States but the data is in Europe. I think that's the key, one of the key elements. Is that the key issue? Yeah. And okay.

26:49 That makes a lot of sense actually. And Microsoft said no we're not giving that to you because we have to adhere to EU regulations which are very strict about the privacy and this came before the Supreme Court earlier this week. Microsoft we... This is Brad Smith of Microsoft. Didn't he run the Xbox division once? No, no, Brad Smith's always been the lawyer there. Oh, I don't know, I've met him. Yeah, you probably have. He's very sociable. Yeah, I thought he was the Xbox guy. Okay, he's the lawyer. I don't think so. I could be wrong. I mean, it's possible. Lawyer. Lawyer. At Microsoft, we filed this case over four years ago in 2013. And the day we filed it, we said that we were prepared to take this case all the way to the Supreme Court if that's what it took to protect the privacy of our customers around the world.

27:35 Here we are today on the steps of the Supreme Court, having made our argument to the nine justices. I certainly come out of the courthouse, if anything, more encouraged than when we walked in this morning. Because in fact I think that what this case makes clear and what this morning has further made clear is that we need 21st century laws to protect 21st century technology. Yeah, and I'm not quite sure what side Brad is on when he says that. I think they just want it. They don't want to have to deal with it period. But I've looked at the Cloud Act. Actually, that's a good point.

28:13 Because I'm not not to mention it. Mm-hmm. He could be actually saying hey we have to defend this thing But can we have like more modern law so we don't have to go through this hassle? Because for the chief lawyer of Microsoft to go to the Supreme Court and go through all the steps to get to the Supreme Court This is like this wasting his time. Yeah, he's got he's got deals to do. He's got deals to put together. I got crap cloud oysters the crack the cloud act of course an acronym there in Congress and Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data. They're so creative. I think the crux is really Article 2713, which actually this is an amendment to Chapter 121 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

28:55 required preservation and disclosure of communications and records. A provider of electronic communication service or remote computing service shall comply with the obligations of this chapter to preserve, back up, or disclose the contents of a wire or electronic communication and any record or other information pertaining to a customer or subscriber within such provider's possession, custody, or control regardless of whether such communication record or other information is located within or outside of the United States. Though that will be the request. I think that's the crux of the bill So if you have data overseas about that includes data about human beings you need to retain all of that in the US and be able to make that available to the court system and This can only come down to a battle between the EU and the US. Well, I think it should be handled differently Okay, I think that that data is not overseas. It's virtualized. It's he actually here and

29:59 So when I go on my computer to get my email and so it's in a, okay, it's on a server in Ireland, but I'm, it's on my computer for the moment because I, that computer in Ireland is not, it's really just a, it's a virtual device in the biggest sense of virtual, not in the sense of a separate machine, even though it is a separate machine. So I think all this stuff should, I think should by definition is in the United States. And if, what will the EU say about that if, I mean they have very strict laws that if you are serving customers in the EU, you have to store that data in the EU and you may not share that under just any willy-nilly circumstance.

30:43 Yeah, if they're EU citizens and they're using the EU system. I'm not so sure you have to be an EU citizen just if you're in the EU and you're using hotmail. Well, if that's the case, why do they knuckle under the circumstance which I think is a lot more important to most people in the world which is the banking system? If you're an American using a European bank, why don't you tell us about your experiences with the EU banking? Yeah, that's problematic. Because they have to give the information, they're forced to give the information in the United States. How is that any different than some virtualized crap that's on an Irish server? I don't see it. Well, okay. I think the banking system worldwide, globally, is a little more integrated.

31:33 than social networks and email? I don't, but I think what you just said is nonsense. I can't think of anything more integrated than email. In government? No. No, not in government. I'm talking about just as a worldwide basis. The banking system and government are closely intertwined globally. Social networks not closely intertwined with the government except for the US government All I'm doing is arguing against the basis of the thesis, which is what you said the EU would be like. Which is, oh god, we have to protect everybody. But they have no protections for the banking people, members of the banking community and their users. No protections. It's obvious you don't have a column. Don't? I already said that. That's what they should be saying.

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Brad Parscale 60 Minutes Interview, Facebook Campaign Embeds

A 60 Minutes profile of Brad Parscale reveals how the Trump campaign utilized Facebook to win the 2016 election. Parscale explains that Facebook, Google, and Twitter provided embedded staff to train the campaign on their platforms. While the Trump team accepted these embeds, the Clinton campaign reportedly declined similar offers. The hosts predict this revelation will lead to increased calls for social media regulation and oversight.

brad parscale· 60 minutes· facebook· donald trump· hillary clinton· digital campaign

32:25 Eh, screw those guys. But the third and most damning piece of evidence that I picked up this week telling me that the social nets are on the way down is the 60 Minutes profile of Brad Parscale. Brad Parscale allegedly ran the Trump digital campaign and they did a profile of this guy. Did you see this by any chance? No, but now that you mention it, I wish I had. I have cut down the relevant bits for you and you will hear, you will know immediately that this cannot, well on the one hand yes, we need more of the social network to get re-elected, but we need to control it, that's for sure. It's dangerous! I understood early that Facebook was how Donald Trump was going to win. Twitter is how he talked to the people. Facebook was going to be how he won. And Facebook is how he won. I think so.

33:16 I mean, I think Donald Trump won. That's not something you can say! Do you want to just listen to the guy and then we can talk about it afterwards? Well, I'd rather be taking notes. I'd rather... Okay, alright. Let's do him again and we'll interrupt. There we go. I understood early that Facebook was how Donald Trump was going to win. Twitter is how he talked to the people. Facebook was gonna be how he won. And Facebook is how he won. I think so. Who says? He does. No, he says and she says that's how he won. He said that's how he's going to win and she says that's how he won. What evidence do we have that it's Facebook that got him elected? I've never heard this before. Maybe the next two minutes and 26 seconds will contain the answers to your questions about the universe. I mean, I think Donald Trump won, but I think Facebook was the method. It was the highway in which his car drove on. And Brad Parscale was in the driver's seat.

34:09 In the beginning of the campaign, he worked alone at home in San Antonio. But by the end, he had a hundred people reporting to him. One of his main jobs was to send out carefully tailored, low-cost digital ads to millions of people. And these were ads on Facebook? Facebook. We did them on Twitter, Google search, other platforms. Facebook was the 500-pound gorilla, 80% of the budget kind of thing. Facebook's advertising technology helped President Obama in 2012. But today, Facebook offers something far more precise and sophisticated. While the president recently tweeted that Facebook was always anti-Trump, Parscale relied heavily on the company, particularly on its cutting-edge targeting tools. One of the best things Facebook did for you, I heard, was penetrate the rural vote. Is that correct? Yeah. So Facebook now lets you get to places, and places possibly

35:04 that you would never go with TV ads. Now I can find 15 people in the Florida panhandle that I would never buy a TV commercial for. And we took opportunities that I think the other side didn't. Like what? Well, we had their staff embedded inside our offices. What? Yeah, Facebook employees would show up. What? Like she hadn't heard this before. We've even played clips of that, that they had embeds, but she... What? What? I sewed it actually, just... Here you go. What? What? It's like Scooby-Doo. What? Yeah, Facebook employees would show up for work every day in our offices. Whoa, wait a minute Facebook employees showed up at the Trump headquarters. Google employees and Twitter employees. They were embedded in your campaign? I mean like they were there multiple days a week, three, four days a week, two days a week. What were they doing inside? Helping teach us how to use their platform. Helping you get elected? I asked each one of them by email. I want to know every single secret.

36:08 button, click, technology you have. I want to know everything you would tell Hillary's campaign plus some. And I want your people here to teach me how to use it. Inside? Yeah, I want them sitting right next to us. How do you know they weren't Trojan horses? Because I'd ask them to be Republicans and I would talk to them. Oh, you only wanted Republicans? I wanted people who supported Donald Trump. I love that there were Republicans who work within Facebook! From their companies. And that's what you got? Yeah, they already have divisions set up that way. What do you mean? They already have groups of people in their political divisions that are Republican Democrat. You're kidding. Yeah, they're businesses. They're publicly traded companies with stock price. Did Hillary's campaign have someone embedded? I heard that they didn't accept any of their offers. So you're saying Facebook and the others offered an embed and they said no. That's what I've heard.

36:51 People in the Clinton campaign confirmed that the offer was made and turned down. Legislation coming down, baby. There's no way they're gonna allow this to go unregulated. No way. Especially Hillary, now she has proof. Proof. But that was the Russians. What's this got to do with the Russians? Hello? These guys, with the help of Facebook, all the Russians had to do was just turn on the bots. I can clearly see the communication strategy from the Democrats. Well this is ironic. Especially that they turned it down. I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that because I should have watched this. I would have gotten the same clip, but you win. Ah, I love the smell of victory. A fascinating turn of events. This has to result in at least discussion, a convo on the hills

37:48 Because if this is true and 60 minutes, these mofos, they watch this. This is holy. Oh man, Hillary didn't use the face bag embed. Wait a minute, how do we know who these embeds are? They could be, well we have to, we need legislation. Well let's take this back up a couple of steps and realize this is the third time Hillary's been running for this office and every time except this time when everyone blames the Russians they always blame the incompetence of the Hillary campaign and the dummies that run it. So hey, just another piece of evidence that it was the same old, same old, if I could use a phrase from the Shays, that it happened again. They were too dumb to say, well, let's check this out. And you're getting free people to come over there and train you for nothing? And you say no? No! Really? And the fact that there's Republicans who work at Faceback is a problem.

38:53 Well, I'm sure that they're ostracized. Yes, but that has to be Well, very good. I give them ten. Now I have high hopes for the company and I don't have high hopes for the legislation. But the legislation should be pushed by the mainstream media. Just Facebook, you know, these Facebook and Google both are killing these guys. Yeah, well that's, I think that's coming. Look, it's my beat now. I'll stay on it. I made the claim. You know, you can't legislate good ideas. The newspapers and magazines, it's getting pathetic. You go on any of these, oh, you got an ad blocker on, oh, oh, please take his whitelist, just take the ad blocker off. I mean, come on, give me a break. If that's your problem, you can't make any money because somebody uses an ad blocker? You've got other problems, bigger problems. Let me frame it for you. So we just passed a law in the House, it's not done yet. We just passed a law in the House

39:55 to stop the whore index. You passed a bill. A bill. Passed a bill, that's right. Sorry ass bill can't become an act yet or a law. So we just we just passed that in the house. Why wouldn't we see, I mean what's more important? Are democracy under attack by the Russians or some whores? Well, first of all, the Republicans at the moment still own both houses and they're not going to vote. I don't think they're going to vote the whores out of business, but I think this bill would definitely go nowhere because it's like, wow, that's how come we won all these things? How come we're not using it more locally? I think the Democrats are going to say to themselves, they've looked around and say, hey, hey, hey, wait, I just had an idea. Maybe they can do a combo and it'd only be Russian whores.

40:52 That would get traction. They're all mod. They're all spies. No one KGB It's probably no evidence of that at all. They got to get off this Russian kick. Anyway, they're gonna they're gonna the Democrats can use this they now saw the light there's too many smart guys out there Democrat guys that work in campaigns, campaign strategists, who aren't going to want to see a law like this because they want to say, well, we're smarter than the Republicans. We have better education. We're just smarter. They're all dumb. So we could do a better job if we just did the job. Hillary didn't do the job. She screwed up and then, you know, she wasn't going to do well anyway. But, you know, for the next go around, we can do it. Obama used it, they said, is what they said in the report. Obama used these guys. Yes. And he won. Look, we'll see.

41:45 I think you're on, I think you're yes, you're a beat but you're not gonna get, I don't think it's going anywhere. Did you have the clip of Adam Schiff talking about Russia loves our second amendment? Was that your clip? Did we have a clip? I don't remember the clip. Yeah it was it was yeah I think you had it he was somewhere saying oh the Russians they love our second amendment because they they they just want to you know cause all kinds of problems with that they love it they love stirring up shit around the the NRA and no second amendment specifically. Yeah that'd be shift. Yeah I don't remember. I thought we had a clip it was there's a YouTube clip floating around I can't I don't see it here however

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Alexander Torshin, NRA and Russian Influence Allegations

NPR reports on Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of the Bank of Russia and Putin ally, who spent years cultivating ties with the NRA. Torshin reportedly attended every NRA convention between 2012 and 2016, meeting with high-level leadership and Donald Trump. The FBI is investigating whether Torshin illegally funneled money through the NRA to assist the Trump campaign. The hosts discuss the media's attempt to link the Russia investigation with the gun control debate.

alexander torshin· nra· fbi· vladimir putin· npr· mcclatchy

42:24 to some degree, depends on what dimension you're living in, he was right. And this was a great piece on, this may be NPR again, let me see, yes, regarding the Russian ties to the NRA. I mean it's not enough to have dead kids, to defund the NRA and defund the Republicans for this election year, the midterm, we're going to add some Russian to it. So Alexander Torshin, he's a former Russian senator, he serves as a deputy governor to the Bank of Russia, he's known to be a Putin ally, and when he was in the Russia... They should say Putinist instead of Putin ally. In my opinion.

43:20 And over six years, he developed ties with leaders of the NRA and used them to get deeper into American politics. And we can see this because he documented all these efforts in real time. It was actually hiding in plain sight among 150,000 people. 20,000 Russian language tweets that NPR has translated. That's why people hadn't noticed it until now. They hadn't gone to the trouble of translating it. Hadn't people noticed it? This is such a great journal! ...United States anyway. So what was he doing at NRA conventions in his own words? So, he went to every NRA convention between 2012 and 2016. We hadn't known that he was going every single year. And he met with four presidents of the NRA during this time. He appears to have developed a pretty close relationship with David Keene, who was a former NRA president and the former president of the American Conservative Union.

44:10 He even says that he met Donald Trump through the NRA at their convention in 2015. So the context of this is that... Delusion! Delusion! ...was defending Donald Trump over the course of the later presidential campaign. And Torshin said, look, I'm not going to I know Donald Trump through the NRA. This is what he writes in Russian. I know Donald Trump through the NRA. He's a decent man. But there is the added interest of investigative bodies, and McClatchy reported last month that the FBI is investigating whether or not Alexander Torshin illegally directed any sort of money towards the NRA in order to help Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

44:52 Now I don't know what you had on your rotation coming up next but this could get legs. Nothing better than tying Russia into the NRA. Yeah, I don't know if it's anything separate than the Russian collusion. You know, there's anything's pot, you know, guys can you know, it's like the joke about using the Russian salad dressing collusion. Yes. No, no, I have something completely different. But I can put this on the list of like if you're how to itemize national Russian Russian rifle Association Russian right the RRA the Russian Rifle Association I think it's a beautiful tie-in between the the school shooting and the Russians Okay, it's a stretch. All right today's theme is Adams got all kinds of cool stretches No today's theme is John has his eyes closed. He's wearing blinders So now if you're a dick I say just dick, but now you're wearing blinders. Yeah, I

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Trump Steel and Aluminum Tariffs, NBC News Coverage

President Trump announced a 25% tariff on steel and a 10% tariff on aluminum, sparking fears of a global trade war. NBC News reports that the President became "unglued" following Hope Hicks' testimony, leading to the sudden policy announcement. The hosts critique the grammar used by news anchors and the dramatic framing of the White House's internal state.

donald trump· tariffs· steel· aluminum· nbc news· trade war

45:58 I don't know. I this look I think like a mainstream guy when I have to and I can see this I can see this getting legs. We'll see if it gets legs if we'd hear anything more about it. I like this a theory as a possibility, but it's like throwing mud on the on the wall, you know, so I guess there's a stick it bounce off. Okay, so let's go to what let's move over to something that's going on is big in the news trade wars. Trade Wars now I have too many clips on trade wars, but a lot of them are I have a few as well But I'll kind of how about you too much there you drive you drive. Let's start a couple of things they have a

46:41 There's you can see the dears when CBS does its report and everybody else every CBS I have to say has really brought themselves into a line of actually presenting news That's not so slanted even when they put slant in it. They have counter slant Okay, and they do it pretty. Oh, they actually put a counter opinion in that makes sense. Oh, oh Yes, that's unheard of I know it's weird so we're not getting many clips from them because if I get clips from CBS is just a stolen clip just really nothing I can do with the clip cuz you know we have to our clips are

47:17 Fair use because we use them for other things that we don't use them just to report stories. We use them to comment on the clip. Yeah. But so let's start off with I think the number one clip would be the NBC. Of course, they hate this idea and they're ganging up on Trump. This trade war trump NBC and this is the logic what the Commerce Secretary calls a tremendous overreaction Arguing any price hike passed to consumers is chump change. Well, I just bought this can today That is 7-eleven down here and a price was a dollar ninety nine So who in the world is going to be too bothered by six tenths of a cent but the risk?

47:58 The risk isn't just that higher costs could get passed to you. It's that other countries could retaliate, making it more expensive for American workers to sell their products overseas, like wheat from farms like this one. We depend a lot on exports and The fact that that something threatens those exports really makes it tough for us the president aiming to protect US metalworkers tweeting at times trade wars are good and easy to win trade battles can be easy and Impossible to win trade wars are damaging to everybody. So why now? NBC News has learned the president became unglued this week, in the words of one source, by a series of events, including Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers on Russia. That's according to two officials familiar with the matter. Seething and spoiling for a fight, the president picked one on trade, throwing the markets and his West Wing into turmoil with a single sentence. It'll be 25% for steel. It'll be 10% for aluminum.

48:58 Okay, that is never stop. It's not a single sentence. Let's start right there. I'm sure it will be blah blah blah It will be that's it's either the long. It's a run-on sentence if it's one sentence. Yeah, it's two sentences She doesn't even know grammar that is two sentences what she's supposed to have said Seriously, yeah, okay. Yeah, it's it's Minor in the grand scheme of things, but yeah, just incorrect. I don't think it's minor at all bad journo. Oh I think she was supposed to say or should have said, wind it back and I'll tell you what she should have said that would work. Okay, about here somewhere. ...into turmoil with a single sentence. It'll be 25% for steel, it'll be 10% for aluminum. That's not a comma? Two sentences. If she had said in a single statement,

49:50 Okay, the word is statement statement. I got you. Well, I like this was a when I heard that I well, oh my god Well, what do you know offense but I'm telling you this is a professional. This is how it's a professional issue. I got you I got you and and and okay and you did catch the word of the day. Yes, we're glue on glue new word. Yes unglued now I want to switch over instead of continuing with just the straight stuff and Well, I, I, about the, the can, I mean, can I do something real quick here? Well, I want it, no, because I want to get my unglued thing out of the way. So let's start, and then you can jump, because I just want to get the view. Now, it's either Shields and Brooks or Shields and Brooks 2. Let's start with Shields and Brooks. Okay.

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

David Brooks and Mark Shields on White House "Chaos"

David Brooks and Mark Shields discuss the perceived chaos in the Trump administration on PBS NewsHour. Brooks describes the White House as a "civil war in a leper colony" and uses the word "unglued" to describe the President's decision-making process. The hosts analyze the media's shift from using the word "unhinged" to "unglued" and suggest the term is a calculated New York Times-style linguistic creation.

david brooks· mark shields· pbs newshour· chaos· unglued· rance priebus

50:35 What matters in all of this? What matters is chaos in the White House is bad for the United States and bad for the world. There is no rational order. I mean, for example, What you've described, the morale at the White House, from every report is just incredibly low. Bullshit. To work in any White House, Judy, is an act of both self-sacrifice and self-interest. You miss birthdays, you miss anniversaries, you miss your children's recitals. He has a sense of mission, a sense of history, a sense... Also that it's special. You're a part of something special. You get status and recognition. All that is missing here. This is a civil war in a leper colony. There is no sense of direction. What did he say? This is civil war what? Civil war in a leper colony. As in a colony of people who have leprosy? Lepers. Really? Isn't that politically completely off the chart?

51:37 I thought it was outrageous that he'd said that. A colony of lepers, I mean, geez, enough about San Antonio people. This is a civil war in a leper colony. There is no sense of direction. The Steele quote is being a perfect example. There was no preparation, tariffs rather, there was no preparation politically. There was no preparation for making a case. There was no preparation for the press. There was no preparation within the White House. There's nothing organization. It's all act on impulse and chaos and sort of chaos of the president himself. It's almost there's almost a temptation, David, to look at all of this as some kind of sideshow. But there are real consequences, aren't there? Yeah, I'm actually thinking of trying to think of historical parallels when we've had this much chaos in the American presidency.

52:24 You know, Richard Nixon had some bad days at the end there, but he had a very high quality staff around him. Woodrow Wilson had a stroke. I'm going through the list. I can't think of anything quite like this where we have the combination of a semi-competent or missing staff and an emotionally and intellectually unstable president. Rens Pribris, the former chief of staff, said in an interview not long ago that When you look from the outside, it's actually 50 times worse from the inside and we're getting a glimpse of that and one thing that leapt out at me And I think this is the key thing the most important thing that it has real-world consequences We're not just fighting over whether there's a military parade or not the steel tariff thing is real consequences and the word that leapt out at me and one of his Staffers said one of his allies said he made the decision because he became unglued. Ah

53:11 Okay, first I think we should also take a little bit of props for the recognition of the word chaos. It's everywhere. Yes. Everywhere, including the New York Times. This again is the problem they're having. They can't focus. And by the way, this is Brooks. This is the guy who's supposed to be the Republican. He brings unglued into the picture. Who was it that said- I mean, this guy's such a phony. But it was an unnamed source in the White House who said he did it in a moment of being unglued? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I was thinking about this before we go to your switch over. Why unglued? Because they wanted to use, here's the way I'm looking at it. For one thing, I think this is made up because they don't have the sources anymore. He mentions Rance Pribis. Pribis was the leaker. So they don't really have a leaker now. Now they're trying to figure out what might be going on. So they're making up according to sources, people would familiar with the matter, which is what NBC uses.

54:11 And somebody came up with unglued because here's the way the thought process would go. We can't use unhinged anymore. There's been people who have been mocking the use of it. There's these long, you know, you get a clip, you can get it with unhinged, unhinged, unhinged, unhinged. Yeah, that's too much. Too much. So you need something new. And unglued is better they would argue if I was going to be a strategist coming up with this word because it makes it sounds like cheap like Trump when he's unhinged that means it's like you know solid construction but yeah glue is like glue is like a cheap cheap construction paste glued together something from China that falls apart now he's unglued the problem is it's not a phrase anybody ever uses they use unhinged, nuts off the wall

55:00 Yeah, a million things but unglued. So it stands out like a sore thumb as a creation that somebody put together. Yeah. Because nobody's saying he's unglued. If I'm a staffer and actually doing this, which I don't believe anyone's doing, I think it's just bullcrap. I think you should be fired for using that word. The guy's gone nuts. He's freaked out. Yeah. I'm not gonna say he's unglued. Nobody would say that. This is bullcrap. Was that in the New York Times, you think? The unglued thing? I don't know. But it's been... everybody's been bandied about it. Well, he said that. He said that in the clip. He said that, you know, I think it was in the New York Times that someone on the inside said, quote, there we go, coming unglued. This is... oh, that's... oh, 1992. Oh, sorry, that's a book. We should look into that. Everything comes back around.

55:51 Hmm, but I got very this I mean you did what is the point of the New York Times likes to use this word? David Mayor date David Dinkins coalition appeared to have become frayed rather than unglued Hmm. This that's 93 Huh? So you might be onto something. This is a... It could be just a New York Times creation that they like to use and now everybody's using it. March 4th, 2013. I was an emotional wreck, angry, disconnected, and unglued the first time I took Adderall. Oh! Oh! Hmm. They might try to tie that in. You know, they're trying to tie something in.

56:31 I just have to ask the question of NewsHour. Why do you have two guys pretty much spewing the same exact party Democrat line when one of them is supposed to represent the Republican side? There are people that can argue from the other perspective, but they don't bother with that. It's just like when they do their global warming stuff. It's just global warming is happening. Just go for it. Screw you if you want us to give you any balance at all. Remind me to tell you about the CIA guy working for the LA Times because that does kind of fit into this. But first I'll go to a very short clip. This is from CNBC and the clip was triggered in my mind because of your clip where the guy said, I just drank a can of ABV. It was one cent.

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Economic Impact of Tariffs, Ben Stein and "Ferris Bueller"

CNBC uses a clip from Ferris Bueller's Day Off featuring Ben Stein to explain the historical failure of the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act. However, the real Ben Stein appears on CNBC to defend the new tariffs, citing the need for a strong domestic metals industry in the event of a "hot war" with Russia. The hosts debate the actual cost increase to consumers, noting it may only be pennies for a six-pack of beer but more significant for industries like aerospace.

ben stein· cnbc· ferris bueller· hawley-smoot tariff act· boeing· dreamliner

57:14 This is the mean, this is the Republican talking points about the trade war. Those who are for it, which is not a lot. If you put a 10% tariff on aluminum, how much do you think that increases the price of a six pack of beer? You have any idea? You're going to tell me a penny. One cent. I'm going to tell you a penny. How much do you think it increases the price of an automobile if all the costs are passed through? $45. How much do you think it increases the cost of a 777 Dreamliner that costs $300 million? You know how much that is? Take a guess. There you go, that's the talking point. Yeah, that sounds like it, but I thought the Dreamliner was all glued together. Is aluminum in there? Maybe the cutlery? I don't know. That's a good point. He did mention the Airbus specifically and not a Boeing. A very good point. A nice catch actually. It's a plastic airplane, yeah. Maybe for the fuselage or something, aluminum.

58:16 Yeah, but still it would be much higher for a 747. Oh yeah, well Boeing's gonna stop making the 747. You know why? Price of aluminum is through the roof. That's what you can argue, but they already made that decision. They can't, they just don't, they can't afford, that plane is too expensive or it doesn't get the gas mileage. I don't know what they're doing. That's the greatest plane ever made. Yeah. In my opinion. It's just so comfortable to fly on. I used to fly... Oh, go on with the tariff. Okay. when I was a kid we used to fly the 47 across the country. I have aluminum coasters from the Concorde which I flew on. Whose story is gonna be better? I think mine.

59:05 Okay, let's go to she's finished with shields and Brooks to okay Eliza Minnelli was on my flight and she was drunk and so we were president makes a decision because he comes unglued a decision totally in avoidance of the entire process And then to combine the chaos of it he issues a tweet this morning which to me was a topper even by Trump standards that a trade war is good and easily won and A concept that no economist of any stripe and no historian of any stripe could possibly think is other anything other than crazy crazy You wanted me to quickly read the list yes, which I do have in front of me And I'd also like to know you know what I what I don't understand is

59:51 Well mate, but well I have some clips that may shed some light on it, but Obama raised the tariffs I believe over 200% Bush raised tariffs. I mean every president has raised tariffs on Steel for sure. I'm not so certain about aluminum at one point during their administration and Usually it said all bad idea bad idea bad idea, but now it's unglued and the guys nuts and crazy I mean is it just because it's Trump and it really doesn't make any difference historically speaking and What do you think? Is it just because it's Trump? Well, I'm also asking you as an economist if what you think about the whole idea. Well, I don't like the idea. Personally, I think if these things set off, stock market collapses. The first example of that... Cash out now! The first example of that was Thomas Jefferson.

1:00:37 And he's right in the middle of that 80 year cycle. What happened? He decided to put all kinds of tariffs on the bunch of stuff and the economy collapsed shortly thereafter. And this has happened over and over again. All right, let's go with the I just you want to read the list. Yeah, sure. Oh, wait a minute. Well, this is no, no, John, don't is too long. No, John, it's too long. Give me half. illegitimate president, lost a popular vote, incompetent, unhinged, updated to unglued, liar, Hitler, demands loyalty, cheeseburgers is all he eats, sex offender, Russian agent, never says anything bad about Putin, white supremacist, narcissist, mentally unfit, insane, unstable, clown,

1:01:21 Foreign leaders hate him, hates women, misogynist, admitted molester. 25th Amendment should be instituted, should be impeached. Hates immigrants, hates Mexicans in particular, says all Mexicans are rapists, racist, small hands, small penis, big red button, should not have nuclear codes. immature, childlike, you need an adult in the room, tweets too much, thin-skinned, bully, holds grudges forever, mean, bankrupt, does not have any money, long ties, fatter than 239 pounds, plays too much golf after criticizing Obama, hypocrite by action, seldom called one, incestuous, would-date daughter,

1:02:05 divorcee, golden showers, pervert, tax cheat, obstruction of justice, money laundering, runs the mob. The best thing is the one thing they literally refuse to call him is president. We'll call him everything except for he's not my president. I can't even call him. I won't even I can't even use the name Trump and president in the same breath. I'm putting not my president on the list. Okay Good I'm glad you're keeping track of that. That's a good list. It is I'm gonna post it online Eventually, I should post it online with the next newsletter. Yeah, okay, but it's it's all in there I mean you can hear their stuff except and they come up with unhinged really strikes me I get I see it. Whoa. Well, you got a new one CNBC

1:02:55 Did something very interesting I think they wanted to explain it to dumb people who watch CNBC and for more on that listen to Dvorak Horowitz unplugged and They brought in a clip to explain how bad this was This is from a favorite movie one of your favorites Ferris Bueller's Day Off I know you're already interested now, right? Like how did they? What the clip is and I'll let you know in that movie Bueller? Yes, Ben Stein. Bueller? Ben Stein is the teacher and he asks the class a very specific question. In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... anyone? anyone? The Great Depression, passed the... anyone? anyone?

1:03:51 A tariff bill, the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act, which anyone raised or lowered, raised tariffs in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression. I think that's the best. That is American history right there. That's how we teach people. Just play an old Ferris Bueller clip. Oh, okay. Well, that's good. We shouldn't do it. That's a good one. The only thing that was better is Ben Stein came on And he had a different take.

1:04:39 And we are in a stage where the Cold War is heating up incredibly rapidly. The days when there was no Cold War are over. Russia is bragging, threatening. There's real danger, real conflict. We need to have a strong metals industry in case there is war. It sure looks to me like there's going to be some kind of war. So we need to have a dynamic metals industry. I don't believe that anti-free trade is a good idea, but I think in certain categories we do need to have some protection for our own industries. And as certain members of President Trump's circle were saying, the additional cost of the materials because of this tariff is trivial. I mean, people don't understand.

1:05:22 Steel and I and aluminum do not cost very much if you raise the price of it by 25% It doesn't change the price of an automobile by very much or a refrigerator very much at all So Stein says war hot war hot war where he's getting that from he knows dying is a notorious super conservative Afghanistan maybe oh Yeah I don't know now that you brought that clip into play I have to think about it. It just could be blathering maybe. Oh Ben Stein pretty much is just a blatherer I agree.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Pennsylvania Special Election, Tariff Strategy and Market Timing

Mark Shields suggests the steel tariffs are a strategic move to influence a special election in Pennsylvania's 18th district. The blue-collar region is a Trump stronghold where the Republican candidate is currently struggling against Democrat Conor Lamb. The hosts speculate that Trump may soften his stance on tariffs after the election is over, suggesting the current market volatility presents a buying opportunity.

pennsylvania· conor lamb· special election· steel tariffs· mark shields· stock market

1:06:00 But now there was one explanation that that only that made sense but it was like it was like poo-pooed by the because this was done by Mark Shields on On the PBS news hour when he explained a possible actual not chaotic, but a strategy that Trump is employing But it was the way he presented it was like, uh, well, there's no way because he's an idiot and he's unglued and uh, but but but this could be possible and And when you listen to this, this is the only thing that actually makes any sense. This is trade war explained. Oh, explained. Sorry. Thought it was PBS clip. Here we go. Keeping up a promise he's made for 30 years on steel tariffs was that the 18th district of Pennsylvania is up in two weeks. The special election for a Republican seat

1:06:52 that the Democrats have not even contested in 2014 and 2016. That Donald Trump carried Southwestern Pennsylvania blue collar by 20 points. And the Democrat, Conor Lamb, former Marine, former prosecutor, U.S. prosecutor, is even with the Republican nominee. And a defeat here would send such panic. This is, Trump territory and that this this was seen as standing up for American jobs. That's the most plausible explanation politically. It's not a defense, but it's a it's an explanation. Panic into the ranks of Republicans worried about the fall midterm election. Yes, yes. David, I mean the

1:07:36 If that's what he was trying to do, I think a lot of Republicans didn't get the message because right and left, they are today asking him to reconsider, saying this is not a good thing, we don't need a trade war. Until the until November. Well, no, that'd be great if he could keep going till November, but he needs to do something about this special election in two weeks. Oh, this is in two weeks. Oh, well, that makes perfect sense. So here's what we do. We wait for everything to bottom out because we're going to hear more. This is top of the news. This is the number one or number two story. Just wait for everything to start. Yeah, wait for the shootings to die down.

1:08:18 Yes, shootings have to die down but we need to keep this tariff noise in play then after the election, the special election is the moment to buy and Trump will say, well we'll do it later. And everything will pop up. Yeah, maybe. We'll see. Stock market tomorrow will be interesting. Don't take our advice, that's for sure. I think that's a very... now he did run on... Yes, it's not like a big shocker. No, it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. Because he talked and talked and talked about doing this since he first came down the escalator. Yeah. It was Mexicans are rapists, we gotta do something about the trade. That's exactly what he said. Mexicans are rapists, we gotta do something about trade. Vote for me. I love Trudeau, our Candanavian brother up there.

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

Justin Trudeau on Steel Trade, WTO and Globalism

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is shown struggling to explain the steel trade surplus with the United States during a press conference. The hosts discuss the role of the World Trade Organization (WTO) in adjudicating trade disputes and why it has been absent from the current tariff conversation. They characterize the move as a direct challenge to the globalist trade order.

justin trudeau· canada· wto· steel trade· globalism· tariffs

1:09:10 Who you know you're starting? I'm really starting to understand this guy He's not much more than an actor. He's a pretty good one, and he does he plays He plays kind of a hippie dippy character. You know it's he's lovable like Hugh Grant. That's what it is He's just lovable a teddy bear. Yeah, you want you know and maybe in his background He had sex with a tranny. You know that's kind of Trudeau You think all those thoughts run through your mind when you look at him. And so he's trying to respond because this will be a problem if we have these tariffs also against Candanavia. We have quite an active steel trade. I think we get a lot from Candanavia. It'll be a problem. And he's trying to explain this to the press.

1:09:53 He knows very well how it works in the studio environment. He just reads he flubs his lines You know his statement, which is he clearly has it in his mind. He it's rehearsed. He rehearsed it with somebody I don't think that's uncommon. It's very normal for your typical politician and he flubs and just restarts three times in the middle of it. We import more steel than the Americans... We have a significant trade surplus. The Americans have introduced a significant trade surplus with us on steel Which mean which means we buy steel from them. They buy a steel from us. Damn, man. You're right. He's a flubber He's a flubber. Well, you know the other thing in there was all worked up, but even though it's meant I mean they're all worked up about Canada China all these but there's a he's supposed to present his

1:10:47 Next week he's supposed to present a list of countries specific countries that he's gonna Do this tariff with not everyone and make Canada may not be on the rise Is it the same seven this is this is very interesting just like the so-called Muslim ban Which was for a number of countries previously on Obama's list I believe the sanctions that Obama put in place were for seven or eight countries, and he probably will replicate that and Well, that's what he definitely should do because if anyone bitches he's hey, yeah I just took Obama's list and ran it by you again. It was okay then that but it's not okay now What is what's wrong with you people didn't work so well with a Muslim ban. They tried that but that would be the defense Yeah, what do you know? Nothing's going to work well because it's Trump and

1:11:39 Yeah, I mean isn't that the World Trade Organization is supposed to be in control of all this? Isn't this just purely an anti-globalist move? I mean no one does this stuff without talking to WTO and the partners first. That would be the only reason I think is good. Go ahead. Ultimately, I'd rather see him break a whole bunch of stuff. I don't care at this point. I really don't. The Republic runs... Well, you make an actual good point and this is another surprise. Because I'm so... this is my thing today, surprise. I'm surprised. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this. Which you just mentioned casually. The WTO, which everybody signs on to, is really the ruling god that tells you what you can and cannot do in this regard. You can't have subsidized product coming back and forth. And when you have a problem, which we apparently have, you're supposed to file your complaint with the WTO and they're supposed to adjudicate it. Right. And the Chiners are members now, aren't they? Yeah, they wanted to be members. Yeah.

1:12:41 So where's that night? Why is that not in the conversation? What is wrong with these people? What's wrong is they're beholden to advertisers and other kinds of money and agendas and we don't have those and that's why I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John see He stands for cost of steel Dvorak in the morning In the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and all the Knights out there in the morning to everybody in the troll room no agenda stream calm always fine to see some familiar names in there The new word of the day in the troll room is soy boy for some reason I've seen this soy boy. I'm seeing this a lot instead of instead of snowflake you would call a male a male liberal a soy boy

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Executive Producer "Sir Benonymous" and the 1.5x Playback Speed

A new Executive Producer, Sir Benonymous, donates $1,013.33 and explains his habit of listening to podcasts at 1.5x speed. He shares his background as a listener who found the show while looking for Dvorak's old netcasts and reflects on how the show provides mental balance. The hosts discuss how high-speed playback and digital filters are changing human perception and the quality of modern audio.

sir benonymous· mtv· netcasts· instagram filters· mp3· 40th birthday

1:13:31 Yeah, you know they call male conservatives Nazis Nazis Nazis and yeah, there's soy boys soy boy. It's kind of cute the soy boy. It's very insulting It's very adult boy on his bicycle boy I also want to thank arrow shamrock and Errol Shamrock brought us the artwork for episode 10-12 titled that episode Value Convo and this was a derivative of a recent Commissary Blogger artwork. We had the familiar Obama filter from Hope and this was once again Hope Hicks only now the title was not Hope it was Hopeless.

1:14:20 And after some discussion we decided that was a good representation for our show. Yeah, it actually took a discussion. A little bit. Yeah, well it usually does but... Sometimes some stuff pops out at you more than other stuff. It worked, we like it, we really appreciate the work that Arrow Shamrock did and all of our artists who upload diligently before the show ends often to noagendaartgenerator.com. And we do check these artworks out to see if the images are stolen and not reused inappropriately. In other words, they have to be... If you write, turn something into a parody somehow, there's all different ways of doing it, but

1:15:01 Some people just take an image that they saw that's funny. They put it through the generator and put the logo on it and they're done. No, no, no, you can't do that. And also try to keep our pictures off. We've decided that's bad. Because we had the first two or three years of these artworks. It was funny until we got sick of ourselves. Yeah, it was just the same two pictures of us constantly and one day we put our foot down. We just said, no mas, it's gotta stop. So we have a funny balance today with one executive producer and one, two, three, four, five associates. And the one executive producer comes in as anonymous with a note supposedly coming in. I got his note. Yeah, I got his note. Oh, you do? I did. Can you read it? Let me start off. Yeah, go ahead. Came in with a thousand thirteen dot thirty three, which is nice. It's an instant night.

1:15:55 Sorry. And he anonymous, anonymous, anonymous, which we managed to do. Hopefully I'll email a note before Sunday. If not, here are the basics, instant night. something first three quarters I want to say I'm gonna be a bit about I've got it here okay I've got his note njnk by the way says the donation the amount is made up of so 101 1.2 a dot yeah what 101 1.12 on show 101 1 because I like sequential numbers like that

1:16:31 But I always seem to be a day late a dollar short. It's my first donation, but no need to deduce. I'll explain later. Also NJNK. I'd like to be known as Sir Benonymous of the 1.5 time playback as I listen to all podcasts at 1.5 times speed. I've tried to slow down to one time, but to me it makes you guys sound drunk. Guess what? We are drunk! This also makes me unable to listen to the live stream, but that's not your issue. It's mine. I find this interesting because I think that already we're seeing people's brains change. You know, you can wear glasses that portray the world upside down and after, what is it, maybe half a day, you're used to it. Yeah, you get used to it. I don't know how long it takes. So I think that you've gotten used to this speed just like, I predict,

1:17:19 In the future, maybe even now already, people look at other people and they don't see how ugly they are. They just see the Instagram filters already in place. Well that's good for ugly people. Well yes, but the resolution that we're accepting is so low, because let's face it, you know, Instagram filters and everything, you wind up with a pretty low resolution. It's all smoothed out so that your face looks smooth. It's the same with mp3s. Kids don't know what good sound is anymore. Sorry to call you kids, but screw your kids. You don't know what good sound is. You hear mp3s and you think it's great. It's not. Well I think it's less the mp3 and more the delivery mechanism. Earbuds, cans, all these little things you don't have any real bass. Doesn't help. There's no frequency that's represented properly. It's

1:18:15 Today's also my birthday. So if you could add me to the list you're on it. I would greatly appreciate I've been listening for a few years. I'm not exactly sure how long I originally found you when I started to wonder why John had not been on any netcasts for in quite a while I enjoyed cranky geeks and loves John smart old man cranky no BS attitude Adam I do remember you from your MTV days, but only because of older siblings watching geez I That's harsh to hear. That's even more insulting than old man cranky. I kind of watched half-heartedly as I straddled the Gen X and Gen Y millennial fence and have never really cared about pop culture. Adam, I love your drive to dig into the details of things.

1:18:56 Listen to No Agenda has given me a whole new perspective on the news, US and world happenings. I used to be one of those people that felt like it was my life's mission to repost and retweet all things that frustrate me and in turn would tick off my dimension be friends and family. No Agenda has given me a mental balance that I didn't realize I needed. I laugh inside when I hear people talk about news. I now patiently sit there and allow them to vent their frustrations about a story as it seems to be therapy for them. Then I calmly explain to them the rest of the story. Usually I just get silence and blank stares as they tend to be dimension B people that want to live in constant state of frustration with the world. Interesting of note is that because I am patient with them and calmly explain things, they seem to at least... they seem to...

1:19:40 Seem to as least at least be respectful of me when I fill them in on the details that the m5m doesn't My wife comes from a very popular polite and conservative upbringing. I continue to try to corrupt this but it's a slow process I've tried over and over to hit her in the mouth, but she has a major aversion to the word douche Interesting. I can't play segments of the show here and there for her. I can play segments of the show for her here and there, but I haven't been able to get her fully on board yet. Usually I just fill her on the details I learned from the best podcast in the universe. As I begin my 40th year heading towards 40, I look forward to more great media deconstruction and the balance you guys bring me. Keep up the great work. Sincerely, Sir Benonymous of the 1.5 Time Playback. Nice note.

1:20:26 So he is 40-ish, so his wife is between 35 and 45, I'm guessing. Unless he married a younger woman or an older woman. And she doesn't like the word douche. No. So I wonder how many, where that age bracket is that finds... We had some member, if you remember in the early days, we had some people that didn't like hookers and blow, thinking they referred to blowjobs. Yeah, when they found out it was cocaine, they were on board. Oh, who gives a shit about that? He was like, oh, it's cocaine, oh, I get it now. Which I found peculiar. But we do have offensive moments. Oh, many offensive moments. Besides just cursing, which used to be endemic earlier on in the show. It's pretty backed off. You know what is interesting is that you see people will tweet us on the tweeters

1:21:24 and try to be offensively funny. But you see, it doesn't work unless it's in the context of the show where you know what you're getting when you jump in. And you know we probably don't walk around saying these things on the street because we'd be dead. We'd get punched out. We'd get beaten up. So we... Douchebag! Douchebag! So we actually don't go out on the street too much. That's part one. And also, it's within the context of the show. So it's very difficult, um... I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry that that offends her, but we're not gonna stop it for sure. No, we can't. It wasn't our idea either. It wasn't our idea. Tell her that. We don't even like it. There's at least hundreds of people who listen to this show who decided that was what was gonna happen. Yeah, and they all use it as a whatever they use it for. All right, onward. Thank you.

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

Producer Donations, De-douching and LinkedIn Titles

The hosts read donations from various producers, including Robert Romero and Sir Alan Bow from Canada. They perform "de-douching" rituals for donors and play a classic Al Sharpton clip involving "skillets" (Skittles). A discussion ensues about listeners using their "Executive Producer" titles on LinkedIn to enhance their professional profiles, with the hosts considering creating an official company page to validate these claims.

bear delaware· al sharpton· skittles· hawaii· linkedin· executive producer

1:22:19 Robert Romero, Romeo, Oscar talent, Bear Delaware, Bear Delaware. $200.07, he'll be a first associate executive producer. Sorry I've been a douchebag for too long. Hey, there you go. Oops. Sorry I've been a douchebag for so long, but I'm a wonderful slave. Keep up the great work like a wee and some house renovation karma so my wife and I do not kill each other throughout the Reno. Reno. Reno. Another word. What do we call this category of words? I don't know but you're maintaining the list. I'll keep track of the Trump stuff. I'm putting the Reno in here. Hold on. Reno. Reno is on the list and I'm gonna add for the sensitive listeners among us I will add a one-time alternative douchebag, alternative de-douching. A one-time

1:23:16 Maybe this is douchebag. Ah, no it's for douchebags. I can't play that. He needs a de-douche. I'm fine with getting de-douche-ed! You've been de-douche-ed. Weee! You've got karma. If we have a douchebag call, I don't do it. Sir Alan Bow is in Langley, British Columbia. No relation. It says, the reason that Canadian donations seem low, is our first one for a while, is that Trudeau may be a joke to us and the world, but we as Canadians are in

1:23:58 shock due to our pummeling economy, our plunging economy is plummeting is what you device of plunging increasing costs and deficit budgets while Trump has lit a fire under the US economy. The future looks uncertain but likely bad. It's like it's like watching a slow speed train wreck. But at least no agenda keeps me smiling. See this. It makes no sense to me. This is exactly where you'd want to support the show. You want to support the show because we help your fellow Candanavians understand what's going on. Yeah, it makes no sense. But, Sir Alan, this is a make-no-sense note. But we appreciate it. Thank you very much, Sir Alan, for your courage. Dominic DeVito in Middletown, New York, 200. I've been listening for a year and a half and only recently started to donate.

1:24:52 So please accept this donation, keep doing what you're doing, and can I please get a de-douching? Yes. I'll give it to him right now. You've been de-douched. Also, can I please get any L. Sharpton clip? Thanks for making my commute bearable. And does he want a karma? He didn't say that, but I gave him one because he asked for a clip. I'm just grabbing a random, uh, Reverend. Sharp neighborhood watch captain says he shot the teen in self-defense, but the young man was not armed. He was going back home after buying an iced tea and skillets. Candy, no incendiary language. Just the facts. A young man dead.

1:25:43 The assailant says self-defense what is found on the young man skillets and iced tea That's an old classic. It is a classic clip here on the No Agenda Show. He meant to say Skittles but it came out as Skittles. To him it's Skillets. And seeing as I have quite a love-hate relationship with promoting Skillets on MTV for for eight years, it's harsh. You did? They were one of the main sponsors but first this word from Skittles. Really? Oh yeah, Skittles was huge. They were one of the core advertisers. It's a doper's candy. Hell yeah. Hello MTV, what do you think these kids were doing in the basement at mom's house? Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits, another $200. I just received my bonus so it must be time to donate. A shot of Jobs Karma would be greatly appreciated. Well that's easy. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!

1:26:46 You've got karma. And last, Sudan Silva down there in Iwa Beach, Hawaii. 200 bucks. He has a note. You know, a guy goes up and another guy says, how do you pronounce Hawaii? Is it Hawaii or Hawaii? Hawaii. And the guy says Hawaii. And he says, oh, that's great. He says, you're welcome. We have ways of making you say Hawaii. OK. Dear John and Adam, I'm an old grouch. 81 is 81. This is our this is our demo. Oh, yes. It goes from 10 or I love I love we have listeners from 16 to 81 a little younger than that. We got him younger than that, but I want to say a because this is by the way, this is what because because we don't do advertising advertisers demand that you focus on a demo. That's right. And your content has to talk speak to the demo.

1:27:44 And demo is short for demographic. But we can put the word in there, demo. Yes, demo. Demo would be one of those words. Demo was one of the words. And so you have to have this little, these certain demos for their certain products. So older demos, a lot of drugs, products, younger demos, you know, Nikes. But they want, now what's your demo? You don't have enough people in that group. So you never get a broad audience. You can't because it's not allowed. I mean, you might get someone at 81 that would be listening, but it's frowned upon. I love how you actually do the voice of your typical advertiser.

1:28:29 I stopped or rather neglected to contribute to No Agenda's show for some time now. I do remember when he first was contributing and he did stop. I've always liked the banter of the two of you. It's always interesting. I've not missed the show since day one. The news clips range from brilliant to downright annoying. Some of these yahoos just are into their shit and can't seem to think straight. Or they are ridiculous propagandists. And I haven't contributed because of them. But that's like punishing the messenger. So here's my contribution. No jingles. No karma. Just your good vibes is enough Well, thank you and thank you for realizing that you that it does help when you help even though you know That goes against sometimes you're feeling it really works You put something into our into our value network, which is what I call it and you get something out of it Everybody does if not, then you need to seriously consider going away. I

1:29:28 I mean that's that's fair it's fair to say. Yeah, what are you gonna do? This is the way it goes. So we have one and five and I want to thank all these folks are helping produce the greatest podcast in the universe and best podcast in the universe. Keep my branding correct. Stay on message. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Does the show have a LinkedIn page? No, we don't really. Well there are two apparently because someone sent me a note and said hey Thanks, and you all executive producers and associate executive producers on this show. These are real titles. It's not some willy-nilly thing We'll vouch for you We'll back you if anyone has any questions what people put it on their LinkedIn accounts And they seem to get more interest because it said yeah exactly associate executive producer or executive producer of the no agenda show Episode number, but someone sent me notes that I'd like to link a

1:30:21 to something and if they sent me two links neither of them looked like anything official. Should we have one? Should we have an official LinkedIn page that could help people when they... Technically we should, yes. Because I think it would help if people said, oh no agenda, click on it and then we'll have like some really expensive... it doesn't have to be a lot of content you just do some photoshop which you always do make it look really expensive like it's a big deal so it doesn't look like a podcast I guess is what I'm saying. Okay well we can work on that we can have something done by the end of the year. Wow man, that's fast you think we can do it by then Thank you everybody we appreciate it. As I said the credits are real. We'll be thanking more people in our e-block who came in at $50 or above. It is what keeps the program running and it keeps it as free and open as you hear today and we appreciate it and appreciate you thinking of us for our show coming up on Thursday. And remember tonight your predictions are in. Go out there propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We hit people in the mouth.

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

Netflix "Queer Eye" Reboot and Masculine Vulnerability

A review of the Netflix reboot of Queer Eye highlights its shift from flamboyant caricature to a more emotional and human format. The hosts describe the show's structure, involving home and lifestyle makeovers for men in Georgia, including a Trump-supporting police officer. They characterize the series as a "Red Pill" show in disguise that promotes masculine energy and vulnerability.

netflix· queer eye· atlanta· masculinity· red pill· reality tv

1:31:27 You know, one of Tina's daughters is here staying for the weekend, coming home from school. She's the youngest, but she's 21. And I'm always very interested, and one of her friends was over, and I love just listening to what they're talking about, because you learn stuff. It's like what you do with the kids. Right. And we call them kids because we can't. They're kids. And with all this war on men stuff,

1:32:03 I was extremely surprised by a Netflix reco... recco... a Netflix recco... Put that on the list. It's on the list. I just put it there. Recco. A Netflix recco double co. Which turned out to be... I think that... you will probably watch it and laugh your ass off and think I'm nuts, but with the war on men taking place everywhere, it was so nice in this one program to see vulnerability, masculine energy, complete breaking down of stereotypes and it came from such an unexpected source because

1:32:40 Because I'd seen this show when it was on commercial television, which and I hated it It was you know is over-the-top all that was in there was just flamboyance and bullcrap and made no sense It was an insulting I thought really but that was because you can't really talk like a human being in commercial broadcast Everything's interrupted by commercials. Every segment has to end on a ha I've got to stay tuned throughout the commercial block and So they've revamped the show it used to be called queer eye for the straight guy now It's just called queer. I have you by any chance seen any of these episodes on Netflix? No, I I always thought queer eye for the straight guy was an interesting show the original it was a little flamboyant and It was lame. It was no good. It was kind of lame. I would say but it was an interesting idea So what they've done

1:33:29 And then you know each show now the commercials are all gone, but they I guess every season They'll be headquartered in a particular state or town and so they start the season off there in Georgia in Atlanta, Georgia And the guys are going to transform you know ones a Cop who also who has Trump Pence, you know plaster all over his garage. He's got a He is like the Teledega guy, you know, he has all these crazy outfits when when Teledega is on you've got a redneck You you convince is gonna hate the black gay guys convincing it all the gay guys. You got a real Christian fundamentalist who you know, of course completely Loves the gay guys at the end and the format John is mind-boggling it has everything in there so

1:34:19 I'll just give you the format until you understand. So first you get the profile of the person who's nominated. It's going to be this horrible guy, someone you think, oh, how can he handle five fags coming in to straighten him out? This will be great. Then you get the uncomfortable meeting. and then they split off. They're like the X-Men of gay. One guy does home improvement, fixes the loser's home. The other guy makes him over, you know, haircut, the trim, the beard. The other guy teaches him how to cook. We have the fashion guy and then the big black guy who's the culture emotional therapist. and then you know they really help him come to an emotional breakthrough everybody's crying, me too I have to say and then after the emotional segment then they go back to their gay loft and they flip on the TV and they watch as you know, to watch how their work pays off kind of like watching an animal in a cage and of course it always turns out great now this is entirely scripted we know how reality television works but the guy, and it's well cast

1:35:23 The people they cast are just so outstanding and that part of their emotion is real. And it's really nice to see guys in a different light. It's the ultimate Red Pill series disguised as a bunch of gay guys. And these millennials, they don't really even see what's happening. But they're accepting it was beautiful to see it like oh, wow, he's so sweet and you know And now their perception is changing the black guy and the white cop, you know They they talk in the car about how the black guy feels and the cop feels it's it I have to say I never expected to say I think it's one of the best things on television right now Interesting. Yeah. Well, I'll try to check it out. You might like it and still haven't gotten to stranger things

1:36:10 Yes, very different. Very different. Very different. But unless these cast members are incredible actors, you know, the target, that would surprise me because these guys, they should be on the show tonight at the Oscars if they're faking this or acting it. That part is just, it's really nice. As a man who doesn't really give a shit that we're being targeted as the problem of everything, the patriarchy, to see this in the mainstream was refreshing. I have something else being targeted, I've decided. And I was gonna actually send a note to you.

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

San Francisco Car Break-in Epidemic and War on Cars

Car break-ins have reached record levels in San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland, with over 31,000 reports in San Francisco alone during 2017. The hosts argue that the city has deprioritized these crimes as part of a broader "war on cars" to favor ride-sharing services like Uber and Lyft. They also discuss the implementation of "demand-responsive" parking meters that charge exorbitant rates to discourage driving.

san francisco· car break-ins· oakland· uber· lyft· parking meters

1:36:56 Suggesting you dig up the old clip which I don't know if you can find it but it's the old clip about how they changed the state laws in California to lower the what lower the importance of yeah car car break-ins. What would you have titled that? Probably something say we'd have something with car break-ins or car break-ins I don't know I have no idea what it yes yes I have it I have the car break-ins and the car break-ins update it's good we tried the first one okay car break-ins are on the rise across the Bay Area in fact 2017 was a record-breaking year for our three largest cities that's the one I just sent you today oh

1:37:45 It just showed up in search. Maybe it's maybe it's this one too many break-ins not enough arrest an alarming lack of accountability in San Francisco's car break-in epidemic It's now prompting action from city lawmakers out of more than 81,000 reports of car break-ins during the past seven years 81,000 13 resulted in arrests. 13 out of 81,000. The police chief says there's an average of 85 break-ins a day in the city. He says based on that number it is not practical to have officers show up and investigate every case. This map here highlights the break-in hotspots. Most happen around very familiar big landmarks. That wasn't it? I know what you're talking about but they basically... Yeah, they changed the law so the break-ins are not given the kind...

1:38:30 I believe, I do believe that, because I noticed this when I was a chemist at Union Oil. Every time you did a test you had to go into the, into a giant drawer and pull out a punch card that had the test on it and you put it in a pile. Those are the tests you did that day. And so I was, Look in one of these they had a card punch thing. This is the olden days with card punches I would look at these things and on the if you if you decoded what was actually on this card it gave a value it gave a value for the test and The value would vary from in other words you get so much credit So the higher value you got for doing X number of tests you'd get a number at the end this shows that you were doing a lot of work and I had

1:39:17 kind of reverse engineered the whole thing to figure out what tests I needed to do to get the highest values and just skip the other ones until I was like maybe at the end of the shift or something. And so I'd always rack up these huge numbers. I'd look at the most productive guy in the world. Just like you do on the show. Exactly. And so there was a way of doing this. I mean, because there was all these tests available to do and you tend to do the easy ones. But But there'd be some that were harder, but they weren't harder to the point where you get all this extra credit Right those are the tests I did right and I think that in in police work and a lot of other jobs They have some way they have to have some way of Deciding what your value is if you're just giving a bunch of parking tickets out You want to get a couple bus? My collar I mean you mean value like what's right and wrong in life or I

1:40:09 No, value in terms of what the value is of you arresting a burglar. Ah, I gotcha. And that's why these cops, in the cop shows they kind of indicate this by bitching if they don't get the collar as they like to say. Well what happened in San Francisco, this is California, is they changed the law to make car break-ins useless so far as your total points are concerned. So they don't do anything about it. That's the clip I'm looking for because we had that clip. I didn't realize it was going to become thematic because I got this clip today which we should play which is car break-ins. Again, no mention of the California law change. Car break-ins are on the rise across the Bay Area in fact. 2017 was a record-breaking year for our three largest cities. The KPX 5's Don Linn is on the top spots for smash and grabs.

1:40:59 Chances are this has happened to you or someone you know. We're seeing record numbers of car burglaries in San Francisco, San Jose and Oakland. San Francisco leads the pack with 31,120 break-ins last year. In that same period, San Jose reported 6,476 car burglaries. San Jose police say that's the highest they have ever seen. A 17% increase compared to 2016. It's also a record in Oakland, 10,007 reported cases. That's up 32% compared to the previous year.

1:41:40 Unlike San Francisco where burglars target rental cars and tourist destinations, in Oakland the majority of the break-ins are in commercial districts where people shop and dine. Oakland police say more than 60% of their cases happen west of Lake Merritt. We're talking about from West Oakland to downtown all the way up to Montclair. Fewer homicides, more burglaries. It's the opposite in East Oakland. Fewer burglaries, more homicides. So why the upticks? Well, the things left in cars have gone more expensive over the years, like laptops and smartphones. Also, chances of getting caught are very slim. In San Francisco, it's less than 2%.

1:42:24 My car has been broken into four times already and I just feel frustrated because there's nothing that's being done Now I'm in a debate should I sell my car should I not have a car at all even if even if I have two little kids I need my car for my two little kids if you're wondering what are the police doing? Well in San Francisco the DA is asking the city for one million dollars to form a burglary task force. But in most Bay Area cities, it's a low-priority crime. And the statistical truth is very few car break-ins get solved. I was looking for the original clip while that was playing. I really can't find it. Low priority crime. It's because they've... It's low priority. It's zero priority. They've deprioritized it and you don't get as much credit for... So this is going on and I think it's done on purpose. I believe because they're so protective of Uber and Lyft that I think this is a war on cars. San Francisco's always hated cars. They hate people who drive cars. They don't have

1:43:24 The parking costs a dollar a minute. It's unbelievable. They do not want you driving a car in San Francisco. I don't know why. But they don't want you driving them. It's all part of this. Oh, let's have a but everyone should be on a bicycle shoot man I remember when we had Pod show slash me vo in Parking in front of the building was was it 25 cents for five minutes? Yeah, something like some crazy number like that Yeah, yeah, and it would change San Francisco's put these special meters in that that fluctuate They they're all right where they change so if you're it is your parking pricing. It's a busy exactly and they did a dollar like for five minutes is like a dollar.

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

San Francisco Police RV Standoff and Shooting Accuracy

A police standoff in San Francisco involving a murder suspect, Joel Armstrong, resulted in 65 shots fired by seven officers at an RV. Despite the high volume of fire, no one was hit. The hosts mock the lack of accuracy and the police's reliance on shouting rather than using bullhorns during the confrontation.

sfpd· rv standoff· golden gate park· joel armstrong· shooting

1:44:10 And because they don't want you going to the baseball game. They want you going into the lots. The whole thing is a giant scam. How long are you going to be able to stand it? Now that I see this, a couple of the reports that came in where one guy, in fact, if that report goes on a little longer, they say probably those numbers of 31,000, according to the police, is probably very low because Most people don't even report it anymore because nobody even comes out. Well, there's more problems in San Francisco. So the cops aren't going after car break-ins, but when they have something real going on, they seem reasonably inadequate. We got him! We got him! He's in there! He's in there! He's in there! San Francisco police say the man inside the RV is the murder suspect, accused of shooting two men in the Golden Gate Park panhandle earlier in the day, including a 28-year-old man who died from his wounds. Yeah, he's in there. He's in there laying down.

1:45:08 Police say after the suspect Joel Armstrong carjacked the vehicle to get away, they tracked him to Alameda and Deharo streets. He refuses to come out after repeated orders. Come out with your hands up! Three people and a dog emerge, but the suspect stays inside. Get your hands up! Get on the ground! Moments later, police hear two shots fired from inside the RV. The officers fired back. According to the police report, seven officers fired 65 shots. The suspect fired two shots. A total of 67 shots. Nobody was hit. What are they doing?

1:46:03 Sixty-five, sixty-seven shots nobody got hit. San Francisco everybody, beautiful. Yeah. Now, uh, yeah there's another. By the way this just proves you can't, you can't write this stuff. It writes itself. Real life is better than anything you can make up. So there's this story which is just like, when I told Mimi about it, when I clipped this, she says, you got anything good for the show tomorrow? Again, uncanny your impersonation. She's so sexy. And it seems to be the only voice I have. And by the way, talking about voices, why are these cops, what ever happened to the bullhorn? They're always shouting at the top of their lungs. Get out, we have you surrounded. Don't worry, this shit will miss, but come on out!

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Kardell Waters Arrest, Central Michigan University Shooting

The arrest of Kardell Waters in Reno reveals he was wanted for 17 counts of murder in the East Bay. Simultaneously, a shooting at Central Michigan University involving a student killing his parents is discussed. The hosts argue that these stories receive less national media attention than other mass shootings because the perpetrators and victims do not fit the preferred narrative for gun control advocacy.

kardell waters· reno· central michigan university· school shooting· media bias

1:46:52 Yeah, good times, but that was more hostage situation and this was an RV situation. Well, they should have a bullhorn in the car Yeah, I agree said this shouting It's really annoying it makes the cop sound like a douche. Oh you said the word anyway onward So this story comes out and then just the sheer number the sheer number of murders That this guy committed. I mean, this is the same as the school in terms of numbers. It's And this guy's roaming around. This is the weirdest story, local story. I think people should be concerned when they hear this story, this murderer arrested. This is the SWAT raid on a street in Reno that rolled up a suspect wanted for murder in the East Bay. 27-year-old Kardell Waters was in the home of Omar Zuniga when he was taken into custody.

1:47:43 When detectives in Washoe County ran his name through the system, they found an outstanding warrant out of Contra Costa County for 17 counts of murder in the first degree, along with carjacking, robbery and burglary. Waters is allegedly a member of an East Bay crime ring responsible for a multitude of crimes, including the robbery and attempted murder of an horrendous couple in their driveway while wearing Halloween masks. And so he's still on the loose? No, they got him. Now, let me guess. They're giving him 10 million bail. This guy killed 17 different people. Let me ask you a question. This is going to be a hard one, but I gotta ask it. Was this guy white or a different color? He was black. Ah, there you go. It's not a white guy. Only white guys who kill people get lifted into national spotlight. It's discrimination.

1:48:36 It is discrimination. It's also deplorable that a guy could kill 70. I mean, I've seen you see stories about, oh, the mob, you know, this guy was a hit man for the mob. And he talks about like six guys he killed. Unbelievable. Or eight. This guy's killed 17 people. Well, why isn't it at the top of the news? I don't know. It's beyond me. No, it's not beyond me because the guy was not white. That is a major number of people. I'm telling you this is how the news media works. If it's not white, they don't care. There was another school shooting. Black kid. Actually about 15 minutes ago our investigator briefed me on where we are in our criminal investigation.

1:49:14 And there is one witness who stated that Mr. Davis was seen coming from the parking lot into the residence hall with a gun in his hand. And we have video photos of that as well to support that. So just prior to the actual incident, Mr. Davis came into our residence hall with a weapon and went to the fourth floor where we believe he shot and killed his father. and his mother. Mr. Davis then left on foot, he went out into, out of the building and onto the railroad track and was running north on the railroad track, and it was, we have again a number of video

1:49:59 photos that show a progression of moving north along that railroad track. And the last place we could actually put him from the video is around Cherry Street on the railroad track. This was Central Michigan University. I don't see, is there really any real difference between the Menendez brothers who shot their parents? You know, they were rich white people. The news media doesn't care. They don't care. Well, they tried to play this story up that you're talking about where his dad was a cop. It didn't work. Good-looking couple. Yeah. They tried to play it up because it's another school shooting when it had nothing to do with the school. It was more domestic issue. Yeah, but it happened in the school. Yeah, I guess. No, the kid had just come back from a psychiatric evaluation. Thank you. From a psychiatric evaluation.

1:50:51 Which is even more egregious. I mean this story, this has all kinds of great subplots in it. You could milk this for a lot. The couple, the parents are good-looking, the kids, very young kid, good-looking. No, nothing. I mean yeah, a little bit of play, but nothing like it could have been if they were white. Just watch it. The news media and it may be, it may have to do something with our culture and Gitmo West and Gitmo proper in general. Maybe we don't care. Well, there's that element always in play. It's sad. Uh, because you know, the 17 guys, this guy murdered.

1:51:28 I'm guessing 17 blacks. Oh, yeah, of course. That's why do care though that when they went into a Rinda of all places Which is a lily white community it was whites that they attack, but they didn't kill anybody you shot him This guy was this is a top-of-the-fold story. It seems to me 17 Yeah, but now nothing nothing just that little mention that even that start even if even if he killed them and ate them They wouldn't run a story They don't care. It's no they just don't care. You know in that regard Chris Rock is right. No, he's half, right? He wants to see crying white moms on TV, which he got but he forgot this you forgot to tell him that you know Really that won't make any difference because you still won't see these stories in the same light as you huge outrage and why wouldn't why would someone who really cares about the NRA and

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Second Amendment Repeal Feasibility and the Heller Case

NPR explores the legal process required to repeal the Second Amendment, noting the high bar of two-thirds congressional approval and ratification by 38 states. The discussion touches on the 2008 Heller case which affirmed an individual's right to bear arms for self-defense. The hosts question how new legislation can legally infringe on a right that the Supreme Court has ruled "shall not be infringed."

second amendment· constitution· npr· heller case· supreme court· gun control

1:52:23 Why wouldn't they say, geez, you know, this guy should never had a gun, what's going on? How'd the kid get it? This is the... We have the mental aspect. Everything is in the story for this kid. Everything. Everything you need. No. Not a second. Yeah, I agree. I do have a fun little two-parter from NPR about the Second Amendment. I guess they're all out of stories about the NRA and someone decided to do a whole minute on what it would take to repeal the Second Amendment, which is what any politician who is serious about getting rid of guns will have to address. It's the only way. And the

1:53:01 I don't know if the word is laxadaisical, but that's not it. You almost can hear the reporter like, well we all know that'll never work. I mean the whole point of the Bill of Rights and the idea that you can amend and change the Constitution is what... It's been done. It's been done. They put prohibition in place. And removed it. Right, which took, both those things took a lot of effort. Yeah, but everybody was in agreement. That's the whole point. So if you say, well it can never get done, that's only because no one's in agreement. Nobody really wants to do it either. I think it's a, there's a, something of a hoax.

1:53:38 There were the Young Turks and they have their own audience. They did an online poll on Twitter. They got I don't know Oh, I saw that. Yeah, like 80% said just number of people Had joined the poll and who else looks at the Young Turks Twitter feed except to mention be people and if you Russian bots ruin their poll man, it could be but the point was is they said shouldn't that we should immediately take action against the assault rifles. And there was yes, 15 percent, no, 85 percent. It was embarrassing. Yes. Well, here's the NPR story about what it would take to repeal the Second Amendment. What would it actually take?

1:54:21 There is a process for it. It's right there at the end of the Constitution. Oh, it's like a big reveal for these people. Wait, where's my eyes? Let's see if I can fit this in now. Okay. What would it actually take? There is a process for it. It's right there at the end of the Constitution, so the founding fathers were at least willing to be edited. They just really made it hard. First, you need to get supermajorities in Congress, two-thirds, in both the House and the Senate, and that's an enormous hurdle, especially in the Senate. But even if you get it through Congress, you still need to get your amendment ratified by three-fourths of the states. That's at least 38 states. That has happened only once in the last 40-plus years, and it's a big lift even before you start to talk about the popularity of guns and the power of the NRA. So not very likely then, is what I hear you saying.

1:55:20 Not very likely, given our current politics or the current makeup of Congress or of the many state legislatures. How about the current makeup of people who just don't want it as much? That is not to say it's impossible in time. It just means you need a lot of things to change and things that have not changed yet, even after all these mass shootings that we've had. Yeah, which would all can only really be the will of the people and what they're insinuating is that it can't happen because the NRA owns all the politicians. Well, then you need to go out and you need to say we got to vote all these NRA people out which is kind of what they're doing. Yeah, it won't change anything though. It's a joke of it. That's the fun part. Here's part two, which is

1:56:07 I think some argument about the right, the actual right to bear arms, which shall not be infringed, but this is about the language which was clarified by the Supreme Court in the Heller case 10-11 years ago. So recent polling though right now, there's a lot of people in this country who want Tighter gun laws. No, no, no. No. No. Did you not read the Young Turks polling data? I'm sorry I think you're wrong. So recent polling though right now There's a lot of people in this country who want tighter gun laws I mean doesn't that put some kind of pressure on Congress to to do something? Yes Yes, it does and they may well do something the Supreme Court has said that the individual right while it is individual it may be regulated and

1:56:55 And this time, we may get stronger background checks or a higher purchase age or some of the other things that you were talking about a moment ago. But all those things could be done without repealing the Second Amendment. And then it would be up to the courts to decide if the stricter limits violated the Second Amendment. And if the courts did decide that, perhaps that then would put more pressure on the amendment itself. I don't even understand how, you know, if we all agree that yes, okay, the Supreme Court ruled it's, you're allowed to defend yourself, I think that's the wording of it, you're allowed to defend yourself and you may use a firearm for that, and that right shall not be infringed, how can you still put in legislation to infringe on that exact right? I don't understand how that is okay. This is all blather. It's your word of the month, but explain what you mean.

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

H.R. McMaster Resignation Rumors and "Javanka" White House Dynamics

Rumors circulate regarding the potential resignation of National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster and Chief of Staff John Kelly. The hosts discuss New York Times reports suggesting that Kelly wants Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner out of the White House. They reiterate their theory that military intelligence is effectively running the administration and these officials are unlikely to leave.

h.r. mcmaster· john kelly· ivanka trump· jared kushner· new york times

1:57:51 Yes, I think it is. I think that is my word of the month and the month is just getting started. It's just bullcrap. They just got to just talk and talk and get more Democrats. But she was sincere and I'll tell you why I think that. Because my liberal friends out here, they get into a little tizzy because I get linked into their direct SMS stuff, direct messages on the phone and stuff. And they're going back and forth and back and forth about something. They get themselves into a... They all worked out because the only people they hang out with, except for me, and they're not like hanging out with me. It's just all lockstep. It's just like knee-jerk. It's unbelievable. The latest was that McMaster's going to quit and then that's going to be followed. This is what they're thinking. McMaster's going to quit the White House because he can't take it anymore. This is chaos.

1:58:40 He's gonna quit and then Trump's gonna resign. They've been saying Trump's gonna resign since he was elected. Are they still on the resignation tip? That's, that's, that is unbelievable. I can't believe it. Yeah, I could read this, I could sit and I'll open one of these up and start reading from it. You should be reading from it. And all you're hearing is, and I was thinking to myself, where's this McMaster thing come from? And then I noticed the New York Times wrote some bogus article about McMasters fed up. and insiders that have some knowledge of the situation, they're saying he's gonna quit and Kelly's gonna quit, they're all gonna quit. And meanwhile, Kelly of course came out and said, I'm not gonna quit, and there's no reason to quit and you can eat pound salt. They're not quitting because you brought it up, the last time anyone brought it up, and I brought it up with this group. I said, hey, it's the military intelligence running things, why are any of these guys gonna quit? Makes no sense.

1:59:39 And didn't I see a, was it a New York Times article that's, or maybe it was just a story that with the people I'm looking for in my list now, they said, you know, Kelly really wanted Ijevonka out exactly as we predicted. Yeah. Now that's in the mainstream. Where was that story? I think he probably does. Well, yeah, it's what we deconstructed and now they're writing about it. Damn it, I can't find it. Well, if they're writing about that means that things are gonna come to a standstill. They won't get kicked out. Well, it was even better. It was the insinuation was that Trump wanted Javanka out and that he... Were they listening to our show? I think so. Shit, where was that? Maybe someone in the troll room can find that article for me real quick. Yeah, and boom. Boom, number one. Boom, count one. Finally. Yes.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Apple Park Glass Wall Injuries and 911 Calls

Employees at Apple's new "spaceship" campus in Cupertino have been injured by walking into the building's transparent glass walls. 911 recordings reveal multiple incidents of people being "disoriented and bleeding" after collisions. To solve the problem, Apple has reportedly begun placing simple stickers on the glass, which the hosts find ironically low-tech for a trillion-dollar technology company.

apple park· cupertino· glass walls· 911 calls· tim cook· stickers

2:00:37 All right, well I got a story. Let's let that little offbeat. We'll switch the subject. This is it. Entremont is a good story. Especially good out here. This is Apple glass walls. We're used to hearing about the fancy perks at Bay Area tech offices, but not the hidden hazards. Apple employees have been left injured and bleeding after walking straight into glass walls at the spaceship campus in Cupertino. KPX 5's Kitty Nelson has the 911 calls. Sheriff emergency 336 what's the address of the emergency? This isn't the way the new Apple Park wanted to get on the map. It's gonna be one Apple Park, Supertino. The new five billion dollar spaceship campus opened right after the first of the year with a corporate-wide kickoff event led by Apple CEO Tim Cook. Apple Park has been built to reflect Apple's values for both technology and the environment. But the

2:01:34 environment inside wasn't exactly employee-friendly. Almost immediately after the campus opened in January, people started getting hurt by accidentally walking into the building's glass walls. The San Francisco Chronicle got the recordings of the 911 calls for help. So we had an individual who ran into a glass wall pain. walking through a glass door on the first floor of Apple Park. They are bleeding, slightly disoriented. A city of Cupertino building inspector, Albert Salvador, told us right after the 911 calls, Apple immediately tried to fix the problems. They put markings like these on the glass walls and he says that fix appears to be working because in the last two months, they haven't gotten any more reports of injuries from people walking into walls.

2:02:25 In Santa Clara, Katie Nielsen, KPIX 5. Well those markers Apple is using on the glass are nothing high-tech like you might expect. They're actually regular stickers. Yeah, and this has been going on for a while. The thing that got me was the board co-anchor. Yeah. If you can play that little just the last few seconds again listen to what he says. Hold on a second. Let me rack it up here. Well those markers Apple is using on the glass are nothing high-tech like you might expect they're actually regular stickers. What do they think of next? What will they think of next? He didn't even listen to the damn story. No, what will they think of next is the inappropriate reaction. What will they think of next? Yeah, I think that people are on their phones. Well,

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Pedestrian Deaths, Smartphone Distraction and "Super Skunk" Weed

Pedestrian fatalities in the U.S. have reached a 25-year high, with nearly 6,000 deaths in 2017. A report suggests smartphone distraction and legalized marijuana are contributing factors. Meanwhile, in the UK, a "war on weed" is targeting "Super Skunk" allegedly smuggled from Holland in flower trucks, which authorities claim causes neurological damage.

pedestrian deaths· smartphones· marijuana· super skunk· united kingdom· holland

2:03:21 I have that story pedestrian deaths deaths, which is also a war on cars didn't didn't I have this story? I didn't have a clip but I think I had this story the other day according to a new study people are being hit and killed by cars and trucks at a rate not seen in 25 years Drieke Duncan reports smartphones and legal marijuana. Yeah, maybe partially to blame Simply walking has gotten more dangerous because of this routine sight. Pedestrians crossing a busy street, head down, glued to their cell phones, oblivious to the dangers just steps away. You caught me red-handed. I'm guilty as charged. Regularly. It's just a natural habit, unfortunately. I try not to do it when I'm crossing the street.

2:04:06 According to a new report, 2017 is projected to have nearly 6,000 deaths from people on foot who lost their lives in traffic. You know what we call that? 6,000 deaths from walking with your phone? Culling the dummies? A good start. Fatalities marking this second year in a row at numbers not seen in 25 years. Pedestrians now account for approximately 16% of all traffic deaths compared to 11% just a few years ago. Jonathan Atkins is with the Governor's Highway Safety Association. We don't see any sign that the numbers are going to start going back in a safer direction.

2:04:44 We're seeing less people killed in vehicles because vehicles are safer more of us are buckling up, but as pedestrians There's not any new safety features the rising cheese has that person driven on the road recently. Are you kidding me? I've never seen drivers be so unsafe. They're all texting in the car. Please. More of us are buckling up, but as pedestrians, we don't have any new safety features. The rising trend in pedestrian fatalities, according to the report, coincides with legalization of recreational marijuana and growth in smartphone use. It's too dangerous. Don't do it. If you're walking, the last thing you want to see is a red light and then a car hitting you.

2:05:23 New York and four other states each had more than 100 pedestrian deaths in the first six months of 2017. But here in New York City, pedestrian deaths have actually declined. That's because of an initiative that focuses on reducing the speed limit as well as stricter enforcement of moving violations. Jerika Duncan, CBS News, New York. Silicon Valley lobbying groups making sure that our lawmakers understand this is not about the smartphones, but about the devil weed The UK is really ratcheting it up. We had that whole scrum at bullcrap Yeah, and now I think you're right and one hand But I think there's also a number of messages going on at the same time one is

2:06:09 Dope makes you stupid and you walk into the street you get hit. Yep. Even though there's no evidence. No, zero. The other one is all you know smart cars that auto self-driving cars they see pedestrians. Much safer, yes. So that's another to me it's another strike against cars. Yeah, yeah I'm seeing it more as the the war on weed is ratcheting in the UK. I think the war on weed, yes, but we've been following that for a while. Right, but there's new ones, there's new ones in the UK about the super skunk Yeah, I couldn't get a good enough clip which apparently has been smuggled in on the flower trucks from Holland. Holland's making super skunk. Super skunk, yeah. And so what they would do is, you know, we have the big auction, the flower market. I used to work at the flower market auction in Islesmere. And you get there at three in the morning, they do the auction, they get the flowers, you got to load them onto the trucks. And these guys were putting up to a million pounds a month of super skunk.

2:07:07 in the... in these flower transports and that's how they're coming into the UK. Oh, pretty cool. But the super skunk is making people crazy. It can give you all kinds of neurological permanent damage. You know, it's all the things that are completely untrue. And I have standing. Have you ever had super skunk? Oh yeah! When people say oh, it's not the same man. We'd we had when I was a kid I've been smoking since I was 13 years old Yes, it's gotten better, but it's not like the I can't crazy, and I'm well Maybe I came on going faster. It's not even that way. I see it hmm Maybe I don't know that it goes pretty fast anyway if you smoke oh

2:07:56 I see the super skunk as a benefit, that's a product improvement. What is their problem? They don't want it because people start smoking dope and they... I don't know. Do they vote differently? I think they still vote the way they... I don't think it changed the way their voting habits. Maybe they don't go to vote. People don't vote at all. I vote Cheetos. You got a peanut butter. I vote grilled cheese. I vote English muffin with butter and honey. Sorry. I'm bringing my personal stuff into the show again.

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

NBA "Negro National Anthem" and Ray Charles

During Black History Month, several NBA teams played "Lift Every Voice and Sing," often referred to as the Negro National Anthem. The hosts review a performance of the song by Ray Charles on the Dick Cavett Show. They discuss the cultural implications of having alternative national anthems and the difficulty of audience participation with the song's rhythm.

nba· lift every voice· ray charles· black history month· national anthem

2:08:36 Alright, before we take our break, you are the, sports is your beat, and I'm a little dismayed that you had not identified this. Maybe it's not being televised? The story is that the NBA, some NBA teams have been playing an alternative national anthem at their games. I have not known this. In fact, it makes no sense as a sentence, but that's what I said. Miami Heat players stand together in this picture here, I see, during the singing of the national anthem, but several teams also played the so-called Negro national anthem at games during Black History Month.

2:09:16 And since we are looking for a replacement, and I thought it might be, you know, we already have America the Beautiful. I don't think this song is appropriate as a national anthem. The song would be Lift Every Voice. Are you familiar with Lift Every Voice? No, no, but I'm gonna be familiar when you're done with this segment. Well, yeah, I have a little bit of it. Ray Charles! This is from the Dick Cavett Show. I got something in my bones Make me wanna shout I'd never heard the song that I can remember I've heard this song. Yeah Let's get to the chorus We could all be in the stands singing along Lift every voice

2:10:14 Yeah, I think there's a problem with this song as national anthem. Yes, you're not Ray Charles is the problem. And white people always clap on the one and the three so it's just not gonna work. It won't be synchronized. This is the worst song for that. I mean the James Brown song has got more layers. No doubt, Living in America is the way to go. I completely agree with that. Completely agree. But we will keep bringing you the alternatives until one is chosen. I'm now of the opinion that one will never be chosen. Yes, we do have a few people to thank starting with Jonathan Rose and

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Knighting of Sir Benonymous and Final Producer Credits

The hosts conduct the formal knighting ceremony for Sir Benonymous of the 1.5x Playback. They review final donations from producers like Baron Mark Tanner and Sir Chris James. A critique of political fundraising follows, noting that the DNC is using Parkland student survivors in "shameless" form letters to solicit donations, which the hosts characterize as political child abuse.

sir benonymous· lars trump· dnc· nra· child abuse· value for value

2:11:11 Netanya Israel that's got to be Israel right mmm let me bring up my sheet it says that would seem to me as Israel yeah it sounds like Israel yeah good it is now okay says been a while since I donated JCD how about removing my block Okay, what's your what is your Twitter name? Yeah, that would be helpful. I See, this is sir. This is sir. Jono by the way. He's a he is a he is a knight. Yes, sir Jono That's right. So he's a knight you can probably you know If you would put the name, you know, cuz I once it shows over Adam will tell you this I forget everything Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we're maybe Adam does too. We start working on the next show. Not really. Oh

2:12:00 Well I do. I go from show to show and each one is individual. So if this is mentioned in here it will be forgotten by the end and our won't do anything. And I wonder what he did for you to block him. Probably something dumb. Am I in a bad if I'm in a bad mood and I'm tweeting looking at the Twitters and I'm just trying to you know collect material and then somebody says something like you idiot Yeah, or something like that walk. I don't bother even React sometimes if I react and I might do I don't know John Robben a $100 parts unknown Michael Dorsey a hundred dollars Michelle Dorsey Michelle hi Michelle Dorsey Baron

2:12:43 Lata Quinn in Houston, Texas. 100. We got a lot of hundreds today. Well, not that many. Jeremy McFadden, 100. And James Zuckel, who I believe is a knight. I could be wrong. That could be. Could be Sir James. Baron Mark Tannerino for a fact is a knight, 6666. Donates twice a month. Sir Chris James in Sturgis, Michigan, 61, 1 and 11 cents. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you get Mark, Baron Mark Tannier? Mark Tanner? Yeah, and he even said that he donates twice a month. I'm sorry. Yes, keep going. Tara Reese in Urbana, Illinois, 60. And she has a douchebag call-out. Wink, she says. Thank you both for restoring my sanity. I've been a devoted listener since the inauguration. What?

2:13:34 I said, you're welcome. My brother Travis and my mother Barb are still douchebags. A one, a two, a one, two, three, three. Douchebag. Freeloader. Listening for free. Relying on the rest of us. to keep you from Dimension B. DOOSHBAG! You can only imagine there's a song coming up at the end of the show. I would hope so. Whenever Sir Chris gets plastered he heads right for the studio. He sent me a note, I'm drunk. I gotta do a song.

2:14:28 I love him. Dimension B. Dimension B. Dimension. Dimension. Another one. Another one for the list. Dame Jamie. Actually, I would use dementia. That's one of those little phrases that people would say. What does that mean? People would ask newcomers. Yes. I also have dementia. You mean like the mench? You're talking about some guy's macho? Is that what you're talking about? Dementia. Oh, like or da mench? Yeah. You're like, you're a mench. I have one coming up for you. I have cath. I have cath coming up for you.

2:15:06 Alright Dame Jamie 5678 and she has a note I take a look at it. She's got a birthday coming up and she had the end Because of the birthday you might want to put this at the end of the show perhaps a kick out of Oreos are more addictive than cocaine jingle because I used to hide them in I would assume the Oreos around the house to suppress my postpartum depression. Really? I can't eat them anymore because they cause crystals in my kidneys and I can't handle any more stones. You're not drinking enough water. Ouch. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. That's according to a study from Connecticut College.

2:15:49 Connecticut College. They know about it. Yeah, Bastion. Sir Tom Dari in De Forest, Wisconsin. 5510 double nickels on the dime. Eric Hochel in Berlin. How come I didn't... that's interesting. What? Came through on this spreadsheet his name actually came spelled. Mine too but there's no umlaut. No umlaut, okay that's what it is. In Berlin, Deutschland. regular there. Sir, it'd be great to have a meetup in Berlin. Well I'd like to just get a date for a meetup. Yes okay I'm gonna continue on the read. Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades. Yep. Keep up good works and he's in Sammamish 5130. Tim Kimbrough, Parts Unknown 5033.

2:16:42 And here we go, $50 donors, name and location starting with Griffin, Vacheron, Vacheron, Vacheron, Tomato Tomato, Hawaii, Hawaii, Scott E. Knight in Las Duegas, Nevada, Robert Clayson, Sir Robert to you in London, Matthew Januszewski, I believe is also a Knight, $50 Chicago, Steeler, Grimald I believe in Point Pleasant New Jersey 50. Joseph Yona parts unknown Paul van Cordelare in the Netherlands. Paul van Cordelare in IJ Mouden. IJ Mouden. Very good. Larry Hay in Mooresville North Carolina Ty Glander

2:17:37 That's a nice name. 50. And last but not least, as we come to the end, Sir Alan Bowes. I mean, Sir Alan Bean, we do have an Alan Bowes too. Sir Alan Bean here, our guy in Oakland, who sends a check, $50 a month. He started this off right at the beginning of our show. He says, until you guys suck, I'm gonna send you a $50 check every month. And he's been doing that. Well, then we haven't sucked that bad yet. We haven't sucked that bad. He did give us an extra little bonus during that 10th anniversary. And we appreciate it. Last but not least on this list is Jason Deluzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania. 50. I want to thank all these folks for helping us produce show 1013. Yes. And if it wasn't you guys we wouldn't get anything done. Correct. Because... So thank you. Yeah, we wouldn't be able to... we'd have to get real jobs. Although... We also want to thank all our subscribers and people who give us their amounts. Yeah, I was going to mention that because you did go on kind of a

2:18:33 a drive there for people to sign up in the newsletter for people to sign up for some of the subscriptions the sustaining donations as we call them sustaining donation yeah if you consider that like five bucks you know yeah I'm getting all these donation notes because you know I donated to everybody's campaign during the the cycle and now yeah now I'm getting all these kids from from the Florida shooting and they're now sending me emails with, hey would you want to help us defund the NRA? Chip in! So it's chip in and let me guess the big button to donate is in red. Yes It's a big red button. This is this is a form. This is like some form letter But it even says it getting the same things, but I'm getting from obscure members of the Trump family. I've no Yeah, yes, I got Lars Trump Lars Lars Trump, I didn't I've missed his email damn it Lars

2:19:34 Let me see if I can find a... I thought I saved one. Here, this came in. I'm a Parkland student survivor. I lost 17 members of my community blah blah blah blah blah blah. And then it's, if you look down at the bottom, in the disclaimer, paid for by the Democratic National Committee. It's shameless. It's just shameless. Shameless. This is, this is a shameless. These people have, they're horrible people. It really are. It's horrible, horrible, horrible. And I've said it three times, I'm going to say it. Child abuse. It's child abuse and we don't like it. Well, thank you everybody. You know how the show works by now, value for value. You are the value, so we all put in what we can get out of it and we really appreciate all of our producers who came in today and as John rightly said also people who came in under $50 for our subscriptions or reasons of anonymity. Remember us for our next show. We'll remind you with an email and newsletter at...

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Michael Butler, NRA Membership and Retailer Virtue Signaling

Michael Butler of the Rock and Roll Geek Show provides feedback on his NRA membership, noting a lack of actual benefits like hotel discounts. The hosts discuss retailers like Dick's Sporting Goods and Walmart stopping the sale of AR-15s, which they describe as "virtue signaling" since some of these stores had already discontinued those products years prior.

michael butler· nra· dick's sporting goods· walmart· ar-15· virtue signaling

2:20:30 By multiple requests. Ship him! Yes, we have two birthdays here. Of course, we have Anonymous who is celebrating his birthday today. He will become a knight in just a few moments. And also Dame Jamie turns 38 on March 10th. We say happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:21:07 Okay, we have one nighting to do if you could grab your sword your sword is sword. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Was that it I got it. Yeah Oh All right, Anonymous, step on up. You are the sole entrant of the No Agenda Roundtable of our Knights and Dames for today, but I'm very pleased to bring you in, and I am very proud to pronounce to Kate the Sir Benonymous of the 1.5x playback. Thank you very much for your contribution in the amount of $1,000 or more. For you, sir, we have your ring, your seat at the table, and hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, harlots and hounds,

2:21:45 all organic macaroni and plasticizers. We got pepperoni rolls and pale ales, breast milk and pablum, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, ice cream and bear fillings, bong hits and bourbon, vodka and vanilla, geishas and sake, ruminesque, rumen and rose, and mutton and mead! Head over to noagendination.com slash rings and that is where the show will pick up your deets. Deets. There's another one. Deets. What's deets? Details, your deets. Oh, your deets. Your deets, yes. Yeah, you can eventually get it down so you can never use a normal word. Well... I got a note. No, no, no, you can't read anything until I do my cath. We did deets, now I've got to do cath. What's cath? Cath, T-H. Cath? Cath, yes, cath.

2:22:35 You better get used to it because we're going to be doing this business pretty soon. No, you are. No. What's cath? I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been cowboying for 25 years. I've broken 14 bones, had two concussions and a punctured lung. I know pain and I don't want any more of it. Especially when I cath. Now, I use these new nearly- Hi, I'm Adam Curry. I'm a professional podcaster and I cath. Oh God, it's disgusting. Come on! Cath, it's another one. Yeah, put it on the list. It's on the list. So we have a note from Michael Butler. The Rock and Roll Geek Show, one of the first podcasts and one of the longest running and just an outstanding product. He's the real original. Why isn't he on our stream with his show?

2:23:30 What is wrong with us? I don't know if he even produces it anymore. Yes, he does. He says to me, I went back and forth because we're talking about this place where you, the Salah is the name of this place where they butcher live animals right in front of you so you can eat them that night after you hang them. And so he turned me on to that place. And I go back and I said, so have you been listening to the show? He says, nah, I stopped listening a couple years ago. Bullshit. I know it's bullshit, but he has to say that. That's him. Yeah, it's true. He says I've been an NRA member for years says Butler There's never been one car rental or hotel discount offered on any mailings I've ever received Also, I've been shopping at Dick's and Big Five for years. I've never seen an AR-15 for sale.

2:24:20 This is good free publicity though. Yeah, I'm thinking of putting out a press release saying that I'm ending my rock and roll geek show partnership with the NRA It might get me new subscribers a one or two Though he saw through that scam only if you've brought your agenda thinker yes, that's pretty funny You know, I think Walmart in 2015 they discontinued sales of the AR-15 and they made a big stink about it then. Yeah. So they just did it twice. I don't think Dick sold ARs at all either. I don't think so. They're just whores. These people are whores. Yeah, they're whores trying to make a name, virtue signal off the backs of dead people, children. Whores. It's pathetic.

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Ken Dilanian CIA Allegations, Mueller Indictments and Putin Interview

MSNBC reporter Ken Dilanian is identified as a former CIA collaborator who reportedly cleared stories with the agency while at the LA Times. Dilanian reports that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is moving toward indictments related to the DNC hack. Meanwhile, Megyn Kelly's interview with Vladimir Putin is analyzed, where Putin demands official legal documents and evidence of Russian law violations before considering any extradition or prosecution.

ken dilanian· msnbc· robert mueller· vladimir putin· megyn kelly· dnc hack

2:25:11 It is. Alright, what do you got? I have a couple of things here. Russia! Russia! Oh wait! First we gotta talk about Ken Delanian. This is a guy who was, I think he was a staffer at the LA Times and they've now, they outed him as a CIA collaborator and they've distanced themselves from him. They know he's not... Staff a CIA? Yeah, but somehow this guy screwed up. At least one occasion he rewrote a lead, L-E-D-E, as per the CIA dictates. He also reported his fact in the pages of the Los Angeles Times. A CIA claim that there was no collateral murder in a 2012 drone strike on Al Qaeda leader Abu Yahya al-Libi.

2:25:57 An Amnesty International report disputes that sanitized version of events citing eyewitnesses that claim upwards of 15 people including Afghan tribesmen unaffiliated with Al-Qaeda, etc, etc. Yeah, it's war crimes. Yes. And he's, so they have distanced themselves from this reporter, but... How did he get outed? Excuse me? How did he get outed? Outed by Huffington Post. Oh, that's interesting. Yes, I would him puff Jonathan Belania who that is. Well, this is looking into yeah. Well, that's that's the kind of stuff that you're really good at looking at it adjourn o's the guy is goofy looking this Kendall onion and he's now referred to by

2:26:49 The LA Times as the... Journo should be on the list. Journo, you're right. As a Tribune Washington Bureau staffer. So I don't know what's going on with that. Let me put Journo on the list. That is a good list. But he's still working at MSNBC. And he comes in, really an odd report. What if I get caught? What if I get caught doing this? Don't worry about it. We got 10 other places where you can work. Put you to MSNBC, you'll be fine. Brian Williams loves people who lie. So that you need to keep in the back of your mind the guy is CIA shill when you hear this report We're told that special counsel Robert Mueller is moving toward an indictment or multiple indictments that would serve the same purpose as that document filed last month Essentially as you recall that document left out the hacks of the DNC the leaking operation Which played a significant role in the election was a big part of the Russian meddling. So these new charges don't see this This is what we've been hearing where?

2:27:51 and I think I identified it a week ago, the conflagration, I'm gonna use it, or really confusion of the DNC hack, which A, turns out to not be really a hack at all, but it was, from what we understand from any forensics that are around, it was side offloaded onto a USB drive. Yeah, the high speeds, that can't be done on the net. The hack, if anything, was a password hack. a fishing expedition? And the FBI never saw the server it was all cloud fires. That's what I mean, the pew pew guys. The pew pew map. So the FBI has never even seen it yet this spook is able to tell us exactly how important it was the Russians did it.

2:28:37 Would tell the story of how that happened and name the Russians who were involved allegedly and they were alive We are told heavily on secret intelligence provided to Mueller by the CIA the National Security Agency DHS potential charges include conspiracy Violations of election violations of the computer fraud and abuse act which is the anti-hacking Now, you pointed out some of the big unanswered questions here. One of them is will this indictment or potential indictment name Vladimir Putin because we already reported the US has intelligence suggesting that Putin ordered and supervised this operation. But that's really sensitive intelligence. It's unclear whether the government would be willing to put that on the table.

2:29:18 and a court document. Another question is will they charge Russian government intelligence officials who supervise these freelance hackers who allegedly carried out this operation. Another huge question is the rule... Wait a minute, did he say super hackers? Let me just listen to you. I think you may have. bulk of these leaked emails came through WikiLeaks and the CIA director Mike Pompeo has accused WikiLeaks of being essentially a hostile non-state intelligence service, an arm of the Russian government in this instance. But WikiLeaks will come back and claim they had acted as journalists. That could pose a problem for a potential prosecution. So unknown whether they will be named in these potential charges. But it's clear that the Mueller investigation is picking up steam and this would be another big shoe to drop in terms of laying out how this case happened.

2:30:23 I think he lets on a lot of interesting bits about what we might hear as the narrative. The agency is freaking out. They're not getting anywhere with this crap. They're not and what you just heard him say and I don't know if this has been discussed yet or if it's if it's coming into the lexicon but WikiLeaks will claim they are journos and therefore they can't be prosecuted or what I don't think in prosecuting why would that sass a simple question what wonder what law can they be prosecuted there you did Assange is an Australian guy. I understand, I understand but it's more about the messaging. You're right. We're going to go after Putin, we're going to go after WikiLeaks, we're going to say that Trump ordered the hacking which he did with a joke and he totally asked for it but he was asking for Hillary's emails not

2:31:17 the DNC emails. We cannot respond to that if they do not violate Russian laws. Would this violate Russian law? I have to see first what they've done. Give us materials. Give us information. Hacking into the Democratic National Committee, creating interference in our election by creating bots that spread false information on Twitter, on Facebook.

2:32:01 spreading misinformation when it comes to Black Lives Matter, when it comes to our presidential election. That's what I'm talking about. With all due respect for you personally, with all due respect for Congress, you must have people with legal degrees. 100% you do. And people who are well educated, who must understand that we, Russia, cannot prosecute anyone if they have not violated Russian law. If you don't have a legal degree, I can explain to you. Then you have to understand what it takes is an official request to the general prosecutor of the Russian Federation. Give us a document. Give us an official request. You said that the last time and now I'm back with an indictment. This has to go through official channels, not through the press or yelling and hollering in the United States Congress. We'll have much more of Megan's reporting from Russia in the coming days. Good bit. So they send her

2:32:57 NBC5 said what can we do with this woman? She's not getting the ratings we want. She's horrible on this morning show. And so they decide to put her back in the job she used to do. Pretty girl that people will take an interview with. With a law degree? With a law degree, yeah. Her law degree. I don't know if she's ever done anything with it. And I'm sure that they sent a note. Hey, Putin. Would you like us to have this hottie over there? Well, no. Would you like us to send the hottie over again? This is her second interview. Right. You know what you were there's flirting with each other and she's being mean and he's being coy and he laughs and he smiles at her dumb questions and does everything short of rolling his eyes and she's just Mad dog mad dog Megan. Yeah, and I liked his response like hey Why don't you just give us the indictment and we'll take it through the Russian court system That would be an idea unless it the indictment has that's the whole thing's more crap. Well, I have a history lesson and

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Professor Stephen Cohen on 1996 Russian Election Interference

Professor Stephen Cohen provides a historical account of U.S. interference in the 1996 Russian presidential election. He details how the Clinton administration used IMF loans and American political consultants to rescue Boris Yeltsin's failing campaign against the Communist Party. The hosts highlight the irony of current U.S. outrage over Russian meddling given the overt "Yanks to the Rescue" operations of the 1990s.

stephen cohen· boris yeltsin· bill clinton· 1996 election· imf· time magazine

2:33:57 from Professor Stephen Cohen, who you always refer to as Stefan or Stephan, but it's really Stephen Curry with a PH. And he is the professor at which... He's in Emeritus, I think it was at Columbia or someplace, Princeton, Columbia, something, but he's not working anymore. Well, because he says all the wrong things. No wonder he doesn't have a job. But he gave us a little history lesson on exactly what happened during the Clinton years between the US and Russia. It's a good reminder. How many Americans today remember what we did in Russia in 1996? My guess is most people under 40 or under 35 do not. Boris Yeltsin, who was the first post-Soviet president when the Soviet Union ended and Gorbachev departed, Yeltsin was elected president.

2:34:53 And he was embraced very firmly and fulsomely by the Clinton administration Russia was in despair. He wasn't very bad shape politically and physically he had bypass surgery He was known to drink heavily it had been observed on his visits to the United States the polls showed him at about four or five percent with no chance to win and Washington was in a panic Because the main challenger was the new Communist Party of the Russian Federation, which by then had become a kind of social democratic party. It wasn't going to carry out a revolution, but there were many candidates. So what happened was, is the Clinton administration shopped around for people like Paul Manafort.

2:35:40 People you can hire to come to your country and help you win elections. There are Dozens if not scores of these so-called electoral experts lobbyists for hire in Washington They settled on a firm and they went and they set up and I was in Moscow in 1996 when the campaign began So it was quite visible to me. They set up shop in what was called the presidential hotel Yeltsin hadn't paid pensions in Russia in about three years and uh... all people were dying they weren't getting their pensions state employees were not being paid their wages this was been the end of any electoral candidate clinton arranged for i think it was i may have the number wrong a four emergency four billion dollar loan to yeltsin through uh... the international monetary fund so the clinton administration went all out and i know personally

2:36:37 From from from what I was told at least that there were at least two third party candidates That would have taken votes from Yeltsin and they were told by the Americans if you don't get out of the race you have no future at all certainly not with us and One dropped out one stayed in and so it's you have to get 51% of the vote in the first round to make it to the second and Neither Yeltsin nor the communist leader, Zuganov, got it. So there was a second round and Yeltsin won. All right, so the first thing to be said is we were very proud of that, the United States. So proud that Time Magazine, shortly after the election in 1996, put it on the cover of its magazine with the title something like, Yanks to the Rescue, How Washington Saved Yeltsin.

2:37:32 There you go. That's not meddling. No. That's a good clip. It's nice to get a history lesson from time to time. Yeah, well nobody wants to do that in schools. No. And by the way, so he's emeritus at both Princeton and NYU. Yeah, so he kind of knows what he's talking about. Yeah. Couple of... He's 79. Couple of interesting updates. On the heels of My interest in public library, libraries, libraries and homelessness, The Public is a movie coming out very soon written and directed by Emilio Estevez and it's about homeless guys in a public library.

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Ibuprofen and Male Fertility Study

A study published by the National Academy of Sciences suggests that regular use of ibuprofen can alter human testicular physiology, leading to a state of "compensated hypogonadism." This condition is linked to declining sperm counts in men. The hosts advise listeners to consider returning to aspirin to avoid potential hormonal side effects.

ibuprofen· sperm count· hypogonadism· fertility· aspirin

2:44:03 You have some ideas about that I believe. I forgot what they were. But this is from... it came from Yahoo News, it was probably a news wire. Men's sperm counts are dropping, scientists don't know why. Well you had a theory about... We had a clip. We did? If you play that clip I'll remind myself of the theory. How about... would sperm be in the... no. Sperm? I would hope. No, it's not in there. That's not the one. Fertility? Fertility and no, no, no, we lose once again. Oh God, we're losing our clips. I have no idea. No idea. Well anyway. Russian hackers. No. I'll get back on that. You said it was some kind of pesticide?

2:44:53 It was either pesticides or the oils or something along those lines. It was a pesticide. But it was a name of a pesticide. I can't believe you can't remember. I'm sorry. Okay. Well, the National Academy of Sciences, even though scientists apparently don't know why, nor do you, have done a study And this was mind-boggling, it's going to change my behavior. Ibuprofen alters human testicular physiology to produce a state of compensated hypogonadism. Huh. Something you definitely don't want is hypogonadism. No. Ibuprofen. Who knew? People take that stuff by the gallon. Yes, yes.

2:45:40 I think this would go, I always question when there's something that, you know, there's two things out there. There's the ibuprofen and then there's the other stuff which is in a leave, which is some hydroxide thing. And these two guys are competing with each other and I always wonder if one of them is not dropping some of these. Let's do a study. And then you always have something to do with your sexual organs and you put that in there and that'll stop it. And then we have the other one. Why do you take too much of this stuff? You have a heart attack. You take too much of this stuff, you get... Okay, back to aspirin. What exactly is hypogonadism? Hypo means your balls shrink. Oh, they shrink.

2:46:23 Yeah, hyper means they get bigger. Right, right. Ooh, they get small balls. Hey, what happened to your balls? I don't know man, but I've lost this headache. The headache's gone. I don't know. I think if I had a really splitting headache, I'd be like, shrink my balls. Please just shrink them. We live in good times everybody, better living through chemistry. It happens right here. Lovely. That's another tip by the way. Stop taking ibuprofen. Go back to aspirin. I got one last serious topic clip. I like to follow the wars, the war on weed, the war on men, the war on crazy, the war on guns, the war on ammo.

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Ethiopia Grand Renaissance Dam and Nile Water War

Ethiopia is nearing completion of a $4 billion mega-dam on the Blue Nile, intended to provide massive hydroelectric power. Egypt views the project as an existential threat to its water supply, potentially triggering a regional "water war." The hosts note that while an Italian firm is building the dam, Chinese interests are heavily integrated into Ethiopia's infrastructure and economy.

ethiopia· egypt· nile river· grand renaissance dam· china· hydroelectricity

2:47:11 The war on water is raging. It's much further along than we realize and it is in an important region. Ethiopia is undertaking a huge infrastructure project, a mega dam on the Nile River. It's a $4 billion development that Ethiopia sees as key to its future, but critics fear the dam could trigger a water war in Africa. Alistair, tell us first, why does Ethiopia want to build this dam? They want to build it because they want hydroelectricity. This is a dam that's going to create a huge amount of electricity. As the water flows through the dam, it will generate more electricity than any dam does currently in Africa. Ethiopia has huge ambition to try and become a middle-income country. It has ambition to put huge numbers of people to work, and it's doing that by trying to generate electricity.

2:48:01 And that is why the dam is so important to them. There are some who do not believe that this will be a good project, that this dam makes sense for them, and that's... Egypt is really what we're talking about. It is. It's complicated. You have these traditional old allies, Egypt and Sudan, who had a deal that they did many years ago, a treaty over how they dealt with the water. Sudan is now backing what Ethiopia is doing, because they will get cheap power They won't have the kind of dramatic floods they have once the dam is in place. Egypt, though, is very concerned. They are running short of water. They see what Ethiopia is doing as a threat. The pharaohs used to say about Egypt that it was the gift of the Nile. They used to worship the river as a god, and they now see a country upstream with a big tap that if they want to, they can turn off that river's flow. And that is what they're concerned about.

2:48:56 So, is there any chance the opponents will be able to stop the completion of the dam? No. The dam is essentially built. More is being done, but it is already crossing the Nile. It's about diplomacy. It's about trying to bring these countries, these three countries and the Blue Nile together. to have a diplomatic solution to what could be a very serious problem. People talk about the first war about water and people are very concerned that this could happen on the Nile if these countries don't get together. Egypt has had control politically of the Nile for millennia and suddenly Ethiopia has now come along in the middle of the Arab Spring they started building this down now they can if they want to control the flow they say that's not what it's about it's about trying to generate power to help them develop as a country Egypt is very suspicious and that's the problem I think we're gonna see some massive shit go down yeah sounds like it and of course you know who's building all this stuff

2:49:58 The China? Of course! Well, it's an Italian construction firm so it's kind of obfuscated. Yeah, the Chinese the Chinese I was talking to and I think I told you about the two uber drivers from Ethiopia We have quite a number of them here in Austin for some reason. It's a community Yeah, you told a story about where you guys heads whipped around when you said the Chinese Chinese And so I spoke this other guy then he says, you know, they're really integrating because I'm now we know that they're there We know they're building roads hospitals, etc pipelines trains roads dams everything and And said, but are they keeping to themselves? Are they integrating? No, no, they're all marrying Ethiopian girls so they can get... Well that's different than the old story from a decade ago. Yeah, well this is the story now. They're marrying Ethiopian women, having kids so they are assured of residency and they integrate fine. He says, you know, they own everything, they run everything, they've taken over the country, but they integrate pretty well. Yeah. That's good.

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

iHeartRadio Bankruptcy, Wilbur Ross and Show Outro

iHeartRadio faces potential bankruptcy after missing a $100 million payment, with Sirius XM emerging as a potential buyer. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross defends the new tariffs on CNBC, while Senator Ben Sasse dismisses them as "kooky 18th-century protectionism." The hosts conclude the show with final thoughts on the Oscars and a musical montage.

iheartradio· sirius xm· wilbur ross· hope hicks· ben sasse· adios mofos

2:50:59 Well, this has some good Chinese restaurants. That I can assure you. Just as a minor aside, iHeartRadio might declare bankruptcy today or tomorrow. I've been tracking it, as you know. They skipped their most recent payment, a hundred million dollar payment, oops, and I think Sirius XM is now offering to buy them 1.16 billion in cash, which is I mean that's really pennies to the dollar But it'll be interesting to see how there's a there's tens of thousands of people who were very nervous this weekend who work in in radio at the iHeart stations

2:51:49 But they're not going to shut the stations down. Eventually they'll have to if they can't pay for it. Yeah, of course they will. I mean they're going to have to have some kind of sale but I mean Sirius XM if they bought it then they're going to, I don't know, what are they going to do? It's a losing business. Especially after the Bain Capital, thank you Mitt, everyone raped the company. That's what a lot of these guys do. Bring it in fight up rape it go podcasting and then kick it kick it back to the curb. That's right People should be pooping by the way. Yeah, that's only in San Francisco. I know you got to go John So I do I only have one clip two clips I can put these clips up to this Give us a fun one to leave with I don't have a fun when I do have Richard Engel floating around the world and is

2:52:40 You know, looking for Russian ships. Let me see what I have trade that did trade going back to the trade. So I got Wilbur Ross that Wilbur is talking about how it's all. It's all good. It's all good. He's our Commerce Secretary who's always kind of cracks me up. Let's play his clip. On CNBC today, his Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, defended the decision. If we aren't the least protectionist major country in the world, please tell me Who is? So what's really been going on is the other countries have been picking away at us, dumping materials in here, subsidizing their industries, and we haven't been fighting back.

2:53:27 But there was opposition building here at home, including among some Republicans. In a statement, Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse called the policy, kooky 18th century protectionism that will jack up prices on American families and kill American jobs. That's what every trade war ultimately does. Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who's been a dependable ally of the president, joined a GOP backlash. He said it would lead to the exact opposite outcome of the administration's stated objective, which is to protect American jobs. President Trump is expected to formally sign his tariff decision next week. He has not yet announced which

2:54:11 countries will be named and which would be exempted. Worries about trade wars and interest rates sent Wall Street on more sharp swings. The Dow Jones industrial average fell nearly 400 points before rebounding. It finished with a loss of 71 points to close at 24,538. Mm-hmm. Meh. Meh. I agree. Kind of meh. And Ben Sasse is a notorious anti-Trumper, so he doesn't even count. So there you go. So it's all bullcrap. We'll just see what happens. Next Thursday we'll know. Yes, and we'll also know who walked away with the best movie Oscar. Go woke! Get out for go woke. Go woke for get out. It's not gonna happen. We'll see.

2:55:02 Alright everybody, the second half of your bi-weekly media deconstruction is over. We do have some fun little ditties for the end of show. And we'll be back on Thursday, looking forward to that. It is a show day, you never know what can happen. Maybe we'll find out if someone pays $10 million for Hope Hicks' diary! But for sure I'll be here in FEMA Region 6, downtown Austin-Tejas, capital of the drone star state. In the 5x9 Cluedio in the Common Law Condo. Until next Thursday in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's turned out to be a nice day after some rain the other day. That's what happened when somebody complained about me just talking about the weather. So I'll stop. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here. No agenda. Until then. Adios, mofos!

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2:59:49 Stay woke! Do you know this guy? It's a psychopathic ideology that is very absolutist, that either you're with us or against us. And the long-term view is that in billions of years, the sun is going to actually grow and encompass the earth, right? How long? Yeah, it's been like a live colonoscopy on television. Stay woke! The best podcast in the universe! Yes! Mopo. Dvorak.org. Slash N-A. We're all gonna die! What?