Episode 1006 · Thursday, 8 February 2018

Congressional Jignitty

A massive federal budget deal threatens national insolvency while Nancy Pelosi’s marathon filibuster and Donald Trump’s military parade proposal ignite a fresh round of partisan warfare.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1006

About this episode

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer face intense scrutiny following an eight-hour filibuster and a massive $300 billion budget deal. While Pelosi struggled to articulate a defense for DACA recipients, Senate leadership secured a two-year spending agreement that significantly boosts military funding while drawing sharp rebukes from the House Freedom Caucus over national insolvency. The political theater coincides with President Donald Trump’s proposal for a $21 million military parade in Washington D.C., a move critics liken to authoritarian displays in North Korea.

Market volatility surged as the VIX fear index doubled, marking a chaotic transition for Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. Analysts point to a perfect storm of algorithmic trading bots and a crash in Bitcoin prices as the primary drivers of the downturn. Simultaneously, the SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch sparked debate after Elon Musk sent a Tesla Roadster into orbit, with skeptics questioning the authenticity of the live stream. In the intelligence community, the transition of former officials like John Brennan and Josh Campbell to networks like NBC and CNN signals a new era of state-sponsored media analysis.

John Perry Barlow, the legendary Grateful Dead lyricist and Electronic Frontier Foundation co-founder, is remembered for his complex legacy following his recent passing. The show also captures the bizarre cultural shift in Philadelphia, where Super Bowl rioters were observed filming 360-degree selfies during convenience store lootings. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau provides a moment of levity with his viral correction of the word mankind to peoplekind during a public town hall.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

San Francisco Heatwave and Fire Alarm Testing

San Francisco and the Bay Area recorded unusually high temperatures of 75 degrees, leading to jokes about being the center of global warming. One of the hosts reports an upcoming fire alarm inspection in their building, floors 14 through 38, which may involve audible classical music and potential interruptions to the broadcast.

san francisco· silicon valley· fire alarm testing· cluedio· global warming

00:00 I got new fresh meat. I blew the fat lady's Cinco de Mayo. We're all gonna die! As we broadcast live from downtown Austin, Tejas, Capitol of the Drone Star State, and Chick-fil-A Nation, in the Cluedio, in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where apparently is the warmest place in the country, John Cena Flash. Silicon Valley warmest place in the country? San Francisco apparently the San Francisco Bay Area was like yesterday was the warmest place in the country. Oh wow well congratulations you are... Yes, 75 degrees. You're ground zero of global warming. Yes, of course. Hey John I screwed up Cinco de Mayo. When was this? This morning.

01:00 I did it, but my mic was muted. So just so you know. Well it still went into the ether. No it didn't. It didn't get past my microphone. It went into your local ether. It was heard around the room. I don't know man. There's a mouse in the house. He heard it. It's a bad omen. Okay well great. Now that's not the only thing. This was supposed to happen on Friday, but I got a notice last night from the building Updated notification of fire alarm testing. Oh, this will happen right during the show then. Dear residents, we have updated the fire alarm schedule to complete testing on floors 14 through 38 on Thursday, February 8th. We're about in the middle. A member of our staff will accompany the inspectors. Please note the alarms will be audible in residential apartments. You might hear classical music when they are testing the alarms rather than the siren.

01:57 Due to the large-scale nature of this inspection, we are unable to schedule specific times for these inspections. Additionally, we do not know the exact time when the inspectors will be entering each unit. Now, you have to know, I'm in here all alone, I'm in the closet. of the bedroom and I... The Cluedio. Yes, the Cluedio. And I lock the door because I have no idea, you know, someone could bust in the door and I wouldn't know until up upon me and kill me because I got the headphones on. So I always lock the door and it's locked again. I'm not leaving that unlocked. Please keep in mind. You know so somebody some Joe you shouldn't even touch said anything about this. This was a huge mistake No, no, no, please some joker out. There's gonna call the police with one of those scam Swat team This is what you have to kind of know my address Locked into these locked inside the closet, please keep in mind that

02:52 The fire alarms are very loud when sounded. If you work from home, we suggest vacating your apartment during the day when your floor is scheduled. Should you wish to remain in your apartment, we have earplugs available in the leasing office for your convenience. Well, you have the headphones on, so you shouldn't be able to hear them. Right. But it probably will affect the show. The likelihood, well even though you've of course since you're blue, Sanko DeMayo nailed it. Not nailed it. It's possible. Yeah, there you go. Hey, called it. You called what? Called it. Super Bowl, called it.

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

Gisele Bündchen and Parenting After Patriots Loss

Gisele Bündchen, wife of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, was observed consoling her children after the team's Super Bowl loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. She reportedly told her children that while their father had won five times, the Eagles had never won before, emphasizing the importance of letting others win occasionally.

gisele bündchen· tom brady· new england patriots· philadelphia eagles· parenting

06:21 The best reporting I found on the game was actually after the game, speaking of social justice warriors, Gisela Bündchen, who was Tom Brady's wife, he's the quarterback for Patriots. Or as Americans call her, Giselle Bündchen. Gisela Bündchen. They have two sons and a daughter and they were really, really sad and were crying that daddy had lost because you know this is never this has never happened so this happened three times yes and so the reporting if the Gisela Bündchen was talking to the kids and and she said just this time daddy won five times you know the Eagles never won before their whole life they've never won a Super Bowl you have to let someone else win sometimes a message for the kids right on Gisela that's how you do it

07:18 That's how you'll mention it by that woman that that's a that woman is so photogenic and she's telegenic too It's very very very attractive. Yes But you know is that the message you want to send? No she's trying to quiet the kids down they obviously built the kids up to be seen as the fan of the team and the whole thing and it's a good day i have the emotional stability to do it and so the kids probably fell apart. Is the end of the world and daddy's not gonna come home. And, uh, cause you're gonna have to kill him for losing and they're all freaked out and she had to come up with something. Well, it reminded me of this, of course. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret. Here is the Super Bowl in eight seconds. Oh wait, that's the wrong one.

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Philadelphia Super Bowl Riots and Selfie Culture

Post-Super Bowl celebrations in Philadelphia devolved into riots and looting, with CCTV footage showing mobs destroying convenience stores. A new cultural phenomenon is noted where rioters pause during the mayhem to film 360-degree selfies for social media, effectively documenting their own criminal activity.

philadelphia· super bowl riots· cctv· looting· social media

08:15 Close enough. That was the Super Bowl in two seconds. There you go. That's all you really need to know. What was disheartening though, just disheartening, is Philadelphia tearing their city apart. What is you know? I find this so it's it's a you like that You're like a kid who's found his first you'll find a box or got stuck in a candy store I'm not sure what it is, but you're naive a tea tea about some of this stuff Because you don't really until you've started doing this show really weren't paying much attention because you didn't care and I don't blame you But this is funny because this you make it sound as though this is some new thing. No, it's not new not at all new I

08:58 Every time this happens I say it's disheartening. What was different this time, I don't know if you saw the CCTV video footage that was released of this mob of kids just destroying a convenience store. Yeah, a couple of things that were really inter- first of all just watching that happen and it's like an army of ants. It's also a little bit the angle but it looks like all of them had stunted growth and were just stocky and like- Oh because of the angle. Probably the angle but you're like, and they're just grabbing stuff. They're shopping. They're just sho- I mean this was beyond the crazy turning stuff over. They went shopping and yeah and new in this

09:40 is every five seconds someone stands in the middle of this mayhem where people are ripping down shelves, they're stuffing their jackets full, they're grabbing boxes full of stuff and they'll hold up their phone and they'll turn 360 degrees like, yo look I'm in the middle of the mayhem, yo brother look at this shit, it's off the hook. Yeah that is new, that of course is new because of the nature of selfies. And I'm thinking that it has something to do with kids growing up watching incessant news coverage of everyone wants to be a newscaster or somehow this has become the model yeah yeah the whole thing yeah I'll get arrested so despite your does it always post it you know yes like let's post the evidence that'll be great a bunch of dummies yeah yeah that's true

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

American Sports Structure and Television Pacing

The structure of American sports like football and NASCAR is compared to game shows like Family Feud, suggesting they are designed to keep scores close until the final minutes. This pacing is attributed to the requirements of television production and the need to maximize advertising revenue during high-leverage moments at the end of games.

nfl· nascar· family feud· television production· advertising

10:38 But no, I don't think this is something new. Well, I found the game to be, uh, the last couple of games last year's game was actually even more, more interesting because the Patriots were down 28 to three right away and they had to somehow claw back into the game and tie it. So they went into overtime where the Patriots won and that was probably one of the most interesting games ever because the other team, I never see anything full, anybody fold like the Atlanta team. So this year, and I know anybody who likes football or watches football knows that with one minute left or 55 seconds left with Tom Brady stuck back on the five yard line of the other team, you were still worried. And for all the crap our version of football gets,

11:30 I do like the fact that you can have a Hail Mary at the end of the game and if someone had caught it somehow in the end zone and had plopped down and held on to it, they would have won. No, they would have tied. Oh, tie. Oh, okay. But still... Well, first of all, they had to do that first and then they had to get a two-point conversion. Then they would have tied, then it would have gone to overtime and they were seeing a replay of last year. Right. But I still like the fact that our scoring works that way. It makes it interesting. Yeah what if you notice it with what's family feud or any of these game shows we american set it up or the nascar races if the car was an honest race yeah there be one guy five laps ahead of everybody.

12:11 But no, they got it so the cars are all detuned to so they all have pretty much the same horsepower, they pretty much have the same chassis, and if some guy gets too far behind, like he's two or three laps behind, they bonus him after a pit stop, he's up a couple laps, now he's back on the... I mean, they do all these little things to keep the race tight to the very end. If you watch family feud they have some family go way ahead and it's the two minutes left in the show and it's 3,000 to nothing there's still one shot at the end where the other family can maybe win yeah the answer is that's the American way yeah it's television that's the answer that's how we've always always rolled with it

12:52 But the game of football itself lends itself to that American football lends itself to well, so does soccer because it's Neil Neil usually till the very end It's mostly just stalling. Yeah until the last basketball I used to always say if you want to watch a basketball game Just watch the last two minutes and you're gonna get the whole game. I You won't get to see all the crazy plays and stuff that go on in between, but you get to see what happens. It's all that counts is the last two minutes. And it's because we need to get the ads in on the right time. I mean, it's obvious why we constructed these games that way.

13:30 Yeah, the rest, it's probably, yeah. It's just to stall everybody, because the game should only be two minutes. But you get the little fatigue, so they're tired at the end, that's always a plus, makes it more interesting. Yeah, and I realized that they really only play 30 minutes of game time, right? No, I think it's an hour. An hour, I'm sorry. Each half is only 15 minutes. Yeah, because I heard the coach say, oh we got 30 minutes to play. I'm like, yeah, it's gonna take three hours. Oh, it's the, yeah, because of all the timeouts and the stops and all that stuff. Yeah, and then there'll be commercial timeouts, which are the ones that bother me. That's why I won't go to a game anymore. I won't go to a live game. Because if you're at the stadium,

14:10 Besides the regular timeouts, after every kickoff and punt, they have a commercial timeout for the television. And so everybody's standing around, just doing nothing, kicking the turf, and then some guy says, okay, the TV's timeouts are okay, now we can get back to the game, and then they all start playing again. It's extremely boring. Now, just to wrap this up, because we always do believe it's rigged, To me, I think the refs, although I wanted the Eagles to win, I think there were two calls at least where they made a bad call. I would like to know what you thought these two calls were. When he caught it in the end zone, but his foot was really over the line before he... No, it wasn't. Okay, I'm not going to argue.

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

NFL Rigging Theories and Bubba Smith

Speculation regarding the NFL being "rigged" surfaces following controversial officiating calls during the Super Bowl. References are made to an unverified report of an NFL lawyer found dead and historical claims by Bubba Smith that Super Bowl III, featuring Joe Namath's Jets, was fixed.

nfl· super bowl· bubba smith· joe namath· officiating

13:30 Yeah, the rest, it's probably, yeah. It's just to stall everybody, because the game should only be two minutes. But you get the little fatigue, so they're tired at the end, that's always a plus, makes it more interesting. Yeah, and I realized that they really only play 30 minutes of game time, right? No, I think it's an hour. An hour, I'm sorry. Each half is only 15 minutes. Yeah, because I heard the coach say, oh we got 30 minutes to play. I'm like, yeah, it's gonna take three hours. Oh, it's the, yeah, because of all the timeouts and the stops and all that stuff. Yeah, and then there'll be commercial timeouts, which are the ones that bother me. That's why I won't go to a game anymore. I won't go to a live game. Because if you're at the stadium,

14:10 Besides the regular timeouts, after every kickoff and punt, they have a commercial timeout for the television. And so everybody's standing around, just doing nothing, kicking the turf, and then some guy says, okay, the TV's timeouts are okay, now we can get back to the game, and then they all start playing again. It's extremely boring. Now, just to wrap this up, because we always do believe it's rigged, To me, I think the refs, although I wanted the Eagles to win, I think there were two calls at least where they made a bad call. I would like to know what you thought these two calls were. When he caught it in the end zone, but his foot was really over the line before he... No, it wasn't. Okay, I'm not going to argue.

15:02 I'm gonna tell you what you were susceptible to. The two announcers on that show are two of the worst. I was not susceptible to that, but I know your point. Go ahead. Collinsworth and the other guy who's been doing Monday Night Football forever and was responsible... What's this other guy's name? Somebody in the chat room knows. Chat room, what's the other guy's name? troll room anyway Collins were in college al michael al michaels al michaels is the guy who somehow warmed his way into monday night football until he found chris collins he was having everybody fired and i don't think he's very good and he sounds like kermit the frog and collinsworth has got a strange voice that kind of annoys me and collinsworth was the one harping on this ah oh i wouldn't have called it that way and uh

15:57 If you thought there were riots in Philadelphia, if they had called that and not a catch or the other one, there were two of them. Yeah, then you would have seen some shit go down. But the commissioner had, before the game had gone on and on about these idiotic no calls, or is it a catch? It's a catch. He caught it. And if you look carefully where his foot was, he caught it before he had two feet in the ball. I'm not going to argue that. I don't care about that. I'm just going to say that I think it went to where it should have gone. Now, I don't know if this is true, but a report came through that an NFL entertainment lawyer who Had at some point said to reporters, although this has not been reported widely and I have questions about the sources That hey man, the Super Bowl is rigged. It was found dead in his BMW shot dead If anybody wants to look into this Super Bowl is rigged type in Google or Baby or being it yeah being it Bubba Smith Super Bowl rigged

17:01 And read the whole story there. Bubba Smith was the first guy who bitched and moaned about it. He believed that Joe Namath's Jets, when the first American conference team won a Super Bowl, he believed that game was rigged and he has a lot of evidence I think he's dead too but uh huh but he but he there's a long time ago he's like you go bing it people get back to us so what John Perry Barlow died yesterday oh you're kidding oh that's horrible yeah I want to call out if we don't have any I didn't really leave on good he didn't really leave on good terms with me which is I'm sad about but well he

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

John Perry Barlow Obituary and EFF Legacy

John Perry Barlow, the Grateful Dead lyricist and co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), has passed away following complications from a 2015 heart attack. His complex political history, including managing a campaign for Dick Cheney and his role in early internet activism, is recounted alongside personal anecdotes about his poetic nature and past disputes over the MTV.com domain.

john perry barlow· electronic frontier foundation· grateful dead· cnet· dick cheney

17:51 He had a really bad heart attack in 2015. I remember you telling us that he was sick and you went to see him not too long ago Yeah, I saw him and you know hung out and he's so tell us about John Perry Barlow Just so people know that who were talking. He's a very famous Kind of a strange character who was a hippie. He's firstly he's a hippie. He's a major league hippie and and he was a lyricist for the Grateful Dead, and so he got a big reputation for being that way. But he helped start the Electronic Frontier Foundation, he's a radical, but he was a weird radical. He was like, voted for George Wallace, he was a campaign manager for Dick Cheney in Wyoming. He's a strange guy, and likable. I've always liked talking to him when he was sick,

18:36 I probably saw him more than I did ever. And he, what I always liked about him is he was a poet. And what it meant for me was when you're just chatting with him, he would turn a phrase every so, just in the right amount of time, every so often you'd hear him say something. Just a different way of saying something. And it was always fascinating. He was the most interesting guy to talk to if you appreciated people who could twist things around a little bit and make them interesting. But he had this heart attack and he blamed Stanford Med for his never fully recovering. Anybody's bitching on Twitter about it. He never fully recovered, that's the problem. So I met him the same time I met you for the first time on the set of the CNET pilot.

19:30 Which when they were still thinking this was gonna be you know they would even I actually? Didn't know what they were doing no I registered CNET comm for them because they were so stupid I'll register no and I hosted their email for about a year, but later the famous MTV comm lawsuit came about and I Called him and I or I email if I called to email him I said hey man actually we did speak and Can you guys help out with this?" He said, no we're not going to do that. I said, well wait a minute, you tout to be against the man and here I am fighting the man, David versus Goliath. No, we're not going to help you. Then, so I was like, well fuck you then. See now I feel bad about it because now we didn't resolve that before he died. He's going to haunt me.

20:18 Well, I had what we used to do these events for journalists called the Spangler Society meetups and you get about 80 or 90 people gathering, all journalists. I'd always invite Barlow into these things because he, I don't know, my sense of humor, I guess, because the professor I talk about, my professor, Greg, the journalist, and Barlow hated each other. And I never could figure out why not, but I was always fascinated. They'd be in the same group of people, less than 100, but enough that they'd have to run into each other. And I'd always keep an eye out for this. And then they would. And it was almost like the,

21:03 the chicken fight on Family Guy. I mean, they seemed like they could get along, but for some reason they just couldn't. And they would go at each other and I was like, I could... to the life of me, never figured out. And I grilled both of them about it, especially Barlow. Couldn't come up with any reason. No, I said, well, no, I don't see it that way. Or it's just like they would not... Dimension A and B perhaps. They were both super dimension B people. The rift in the dimension. I have no idea. But anyway, he's gonna be missed. He's a really great guy. A very fundamental character. Yes. And there were some other interesting things that happened this past week.

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Stock Market Volatility and the VIX Index

Financial analyst Stephanie Ruhle described the recent doubling of the VIX "fear index" as a devastating event for traders who were short on volatility. The market correction is discussed in the context of Janet Yellen handing over the Federal Reserve chairmanship to Jerome Powell and her subsequent comments regarding an "overheated" market.

vix index· stock market crash· stephanie ruhle· volatility· janet yellen

21:52 I was listening to all of the financial channels as I watched the market crash. It was or crash as I watched everything go down and I have some thoughts on that. But here's a clip that I picked up. And we can talk about what the VIX is, but I just thought that this was from a woman on television. I thought this was a great... It caught my attention. Amazon stock. It was highly technical. So you've got that VIX index, the fear index was really low last year, which didn't make a lot of sense to many people. We're going, wait a minute, we're not paying attention to any geopolitical risks.

22:29 But we weren't, and a very profitable trade which became very popular was people going short that VIX index. People going short volatility saying there's no risk in these markets so I'm going to continue to go short. And when you go short a product like that, you can do it on a levered basis. Suddenly, when volatility ticks back into the market, those guys who are short volatility took it like they were wearing a barbed wire thong. It was devastating when you saw the VIX double in one day. That is a rough image, Stephanie Ruhle. Yes. Well, that's exactly what it is. When you see the VIX double in one day, those guys got absolutely liquidated. They got smoked. It was like a derivative on top of a derivative.

23:12 I'm just gonna leave it there. We could just let that barbed wire thong thing sink in. Actually, I'm not... Don't let anything like that sink in. Stephanie, good to see you. I love that. That's good. Give me more analogies like that. I heard you and Horowitz on DH Unplugged talking about it. I think I have a little different take on what happened. Alright, what do you think? What was your conclusion? What did you guys come up with? The basic conclusion? I don't remember. I don't think we really had a conclusion. I had a couple, I didn't think it was a big deal. I thought it was a correction of sorts. I still think it is. And it may have been a symbolic thing because the hammy, I don't think it was a coincidence that the exact, almost the exact moment they hand over the reins to the new guy. That definitely didn't help.

24:09 And then Janet Yellen comes out and says a bunch of bad things about the market that didn't help, and she did it on Judy Woodruff's show that Friday. And I didn't clip it because she's so boring. Horowitz felt similar because he had something else that she did that she said along with Greenspan complaining about the market being overheated. I love the conspiracy theories that the bankers, the Illuminati brought it down. They brought it down. That's how they do things. Well, why would they do that? Because I actually had an initial theory that because Janet Yellen was on the Council of Foreign Relations and the new guy wasn't. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a message. But how wrong I was, she's on the Council of Foreign Relations and so is he. Oh, well, of course they are. In fact, they've all been every, every one of these guys has been on the CFR.

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

Algorithmic Trading and Cryptocurrency Market Impact

The recent market downturn is attributed to a "perfect storm" involving algorithmic trading bots, retail investors using apps like Robinhood, and a crash in Bitcoin prices. Speculation is raised regarding the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and whether institutional players manipulated the market to send a message during the leadership transition at the Federal Reserve.

algorithmic trading· bitcoin· council on foreign relations· robin hood· market manipulation

23:12 I'm just gonna leave it there. We could just let that barbed wire thong thing sink in. Actually, I'm not... Don't let anything like that sink in. Stephanie, good to see you. I love that. That's good. Give me more analogies like that. I heard you and Horowitz on DH Unplugged talking about it. I think I have a little different take on what happened. Alright, what do you think? What was your conclusion? What did you guys come up with? The basic conclusion? I don't remember. I don't think we really had a conclusion. I had a couple, I didn't think it was a big deal. I thought it was a correction of sorts. I still think it is. And it may have been a symbolic thing because the hammy, I don't think it was a coincidence that the exact, almost the exact moment they hand over the reins to the new guy. That definitely didn't help.

24:09 And then Janet Yellen comes out and says a bunch of bad things about the market that didn't help, and she did it on Judy Woodruff's show that Friday. And I didn't clip it because she's so boring. Horowitz felt similar because he had something else that she did that she said along with Greenspan complaining about the market being overheated. I love the conspiracy theories that the bankers, the Illuminati brought it down. They brought it down. That's how they do things. Well, why would they do that? Because I actually had an initial theory that because Janet Yellen was on the Council of Foreign Relations and the new guy wasn't. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a message. But how wrong I was, she's on the Council of Foreign Relations and so is he. Oh, well, of course they are. In fact, they've all been every, every one of these guys has been on the CFR.

25:06 Well, I study the markets and here's what I saw happening. You really have a couple of groups who are in the marketplace. You've got your algos, you've got your algorithmic bots out there doing stuff which are really not all that smart. You can actually recognize some of them, some of them key off like when it hits 50 it'll bounce or 35. You can actually see it over time if you look at a chart, you can see how that works. Then you have the big, big players, big money, big manipulation, banks, huge hedge funds players. They can actually move markets with the size of money they have. Okay, wait, because I'm going to lose this train of thought.

25:50 I think we should have a segment like this every so often and we need one of our guys Chris might be able to do it. We need a jingle. Take the song Day Trippin' to Day Tradin'. There you go! Day Trader yeah beep beep beep beep. Oh that's a different one. Okay. Yes, like continue day-to-day traded. Yeah, perfect So then you have fun managers or your managers like Horowitz, you know people who manage your money and then you have really people wise 90% of everybody of people in the market is retail and we got kiddies with Robin Hood You know, I've complained about this for a long time, but you it's really it's a lot of people people trading from their IRA accounts besides pharmaceutical ads what is the other prevalent ad you see and

26:33 Oh, you know I can take care of my own financial future. I'll trade on eTrade. This will be great. And a lot of these people, even people I warned, they all got into Bitcoin. or derivatives thereof and Bitcoin was tanking you know it went and I said it would be 82 30 went through 82 30 it went oh shit we're gonna go to 68 it went to 66 at a certain point so Bitcoin was crashing what happens is the retail people lost their money they didn't have any money to play certainly not on that day and even if they sold they couldn't get their money immediately well we've talked about that these exchanges can take up to 10 business days just to get your money

27:16 So they were not playing and the algos were programmed, which I think they've been for a couple of weeks now, to pop and drop. So it waits for a certain level, it pops up, idiots go, oh we have action! They click buy and then it drops and then they lose their money. And this just kept on happening, whatever people were in the market just kept on losing, they gave up and then you hit all of these really simple rules in the algos that say if this dips below the 50 day moving average, sell.

27:53 Then of course you'd sell sell sells then you had those exchange traded funds which are kind of a black box of bullcrap inside and you know and I think you know you can lose you can win twice as much if you win, but I don't know I don't trade them you can lose twice as much And then that just started a cascade and it just took it all the way down It actually a pretty pretty orderly fashion, and so I think it was a interest now you can say maybe Bitcoin was a was manipulated and it's you know it's rebounding somewhat as we speak I haven't actually checked it today but I think it was it was a perfect storm of elements and I blame the cryptos and and the algos cryptos and the algos I think you could I think that look argument would be valuable or viable I think mm-hmm and that's not the word my dummy viable valuable it's it's

28:49 It's I think it's legit. When the algorithm starts to sway, opinions on the news today

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

SpaceX Falcon Heavy Launch and Starman Hoax Theory

The SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch is scrutinized, specifically the decision to send a Tesla Roadster with a "Starman" mannequin into orbit. Claims are made that the live stream footage appeared to be a studio-produced hoax, while an alternative theory suggests the car might serve as a space burial for a member of the global elite, such as David Rockefeller.

spacex· elon musk· falcon heavy· tesla roadster· starman

29:28 There's a guy coding in LA to keep us afraid and Facebook made. That's right. The algos are to blame. Technology is not your friend at all. Oh, speaking of, another big news event. We saw the launch of the... what was it? The Falcon Heavy? Yeah, the whatever the big one the one that they want to use apparently no one is a payload Yeah, no one has ever launched one of these no no they've no people have launched bigger rockets than that uh-huh This is the first for them for SpaceX. They're big walk. They're big walk Yes, oh Elon Elon well You know this so now part of his

30:16 Part of his PR campaign is he sent a Tesla Roadster up into space. Yeah, because they can't sell them. You waited on that one. I like it. Very good. So they have this guy in it called the... Well, before I even get to that, let me play this little clip here. Just to show you the you know the the Elon love is so almost unhinged this also created a probably the ISO of the day this is what is her name Rachel crane She was at the launch live. By the way, I've got one more voice Rachel Crane who's actually there. Lucky lucky fellow space geek who's there taking it all. Lucky lucky fellow space geek. What is that? There's a thing with women. Lucky lucky lucky lucky fellow space geek. There's a thing that there's a group of women who love to be recognized as geeks. Nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks. This is what happened with me about

31:17 five years ago, maybe longer, when Veronica Belmont was on one of these shows I was on with her and I said, well, you're anything but a nerd, because I was referring to the fact that she didn't look like a goofus. And she got very offended by it. It was basically your hashtag Me Too moment. Yeah, that was my my my but not saying she was a nerd I Apparently insulted her. Yes, and this became a big deal for a couple of weeks and I apologized as I would I should do and Rolled my eyes and gave up on the whole idea. But yeah, yeah, there's I don't know what this is all about You see with actresses a lot of actresses call themselves nerds. Yes, and

32:03 So this is fellow space geek I guess I don't know what it is Maybe some of our female producers can enlighten us us old white men, but it's it's identifiable I've got one more voice Rachel crane who's actually there lucky lucky fair Taking it all in Jumping up and down. I feel your enthusiasm jumping in front of the camera Rachel talk to me and tell me also about these boosters Right, well, Brooke, we did just see two boosters coming down moments ago, but the entry burn was shut down. We don't see them anymore, but I do hear people cheering around me. There's a couple of buildings that was blown. Oh, there's a sonic boom. Wow, Brooke, if I can't even begin to describe the excitement around me. I mean, everybody is coming out from the building. It's orgasmic. Oh, there's a sonic boom.

32:57 Oh lovely. For this obvious scam where they're now saying, oh yes we have this Tesla and there may very well be a Tesla as a payload but they have a live stream of a Tesla with a mannequin in a little suit spinning around above the beautiful globe, the round earth, not flat at all but the round earth Sadly though in their own video and I put it in the show notes you have to see this there's a YouTube of their broadcast and and coincidentally at 33 minutes they switch over to the you know what they say is we're now we're going to the to the rocket to the payload so you can see the 33 yes 33 minutes the star ma'am and they switch but it's just

33:50 the car, the Starman for like two seconds, a second and a half. The Starman in there and it's in a studio with lights shining on it. It's got tape on the walls, you know, for the, um, for the superimposed so they can match it up perfectly. And then the background fades in their own stream. It's a hoax. It's a total hoax. It's completely, and YouTube is filled with people talking about this. Well, it's a, there was another theory that they actually did send something up and it's actually a corpse. And nobody, this is one of our producers by the way, not me. And they're not talking about, but in the underground amongst the super elite rich, this is the latest way to, to make money.

34:35 to bury the super rich and that's probably David Rockefeller in that car. So you get buried in space in a Tesla, in a suit. Yeah. Oh, very good. He'd tell us that the Earth's flat, but he thinks he'll blow our minds. There's a star man riding through the sky. He says he sees a flat plane, and the golden's just a lie, he's dumb and yes, we live on a disc. Kepler's full of shit, Copernicus a wanker. Yes, Sir Chris from Australia. Of course!

35:22 He's lighting it up. You got a longer version of that later at the end of the show. But yeah, that was disappointing. I'm sure a rocket went up, but I even have engineers writing me emails saying, wow, there's a lot of stuff that really, looking at the video, just looked pretty incredible. Yeah, well, also that's an awkward payload. But I like the idea of burying the rich in space like that. I think we should keep that one. Yeah Keep that one going because that's a possibility. Yeah, so in other words if you see another uh, See who died

36:05 recently, that's super rich, that could afford, it probably cost a hundred million bucks to pull this off, maybe more. It's good money, it goes right into the coffers, under petty cash. He is. And up they go and send him to Mars. You know Elon is probably when he dies, he's definitely gonna put himself in one of these things and crash land on Mars, because he said he wanted to die on Mars, I think. Here's the summary of the whole launch. Let's go! Let's go! There you go. That's the whole launch right there. That's a good mix. Talking about humorous mixes, so I'm watching Conan. Oh. And there's a comedian on there, it's kind of like a... he does... I'm sure he doesn't listen to No Agenda, but he's got the No Agenda... if anybody likes

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

Bill Burr on Alexa and Privacy

Comedian Bill Burr appeared on Conan to discuss his refusal to use Amazon Alexa, questioning why people voluntarily bug their own homes. Burr also criticized services like Ancestry.com, suggesting that providing DNA samples effectively helps the "Illuminati" build robot replacements for humans.

bill burr· alexa· ancestry.com· privacy· surveillance

37:00 no agenda of humor, they'd like Bill Burr. And so I have this clip, because this one I kind of came into kind of confirming my kind of, I feel the same way, and then it comes on and throws out something that you feel the same way about. We did this, a still, this is about Alexa. I think we have it. What's going on here? Did you buy Alexa? No, I don't know why people would voluntarily bug your own house. Like do you think you're the only one listening in on that? You never saw weird science how creepy these nerds are all these cameras on your phone all of that the people go on ancestry.com Why would you send your saliva into the internet? Why would you do that? Why don't you just go to the Illuminati and help them build your robot replacement?

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

Anthony Weiner Laptop Address Book Leak

A leaked address book purportedly from Anthony Weiner’s laptop has surfaced, containing contact information for high-profile figures including Bill Clinton and various Hollywood moguls. The list includes personal cell phone numbers and email addresses, some of which were slightly obscured to prevent automated scraping.

anthony weiner· bill clinton· david corn· data leak· hollywood

38:00 Yeah, very good yeah It's all the marks or that one. Yeah, it's two or three of them couple of check marks Chuck I did I did grab my own copy of the paste bin of the entire address book of Anthony Weiner's laptop Do you have how many names were on yours? Oh, I did I didn't count him, but I think I got the full thing. Oh You sure no I again I didn't count them, but I it was a big list when I saw I had numbers along the site because it was a From a spreadsheet or something or I guess from his Google account not sure his first name is the dovetized by first name Let me see I have it here Yeah, my first name how many dignity if you have it there how many which is Google so how many names were on yours?

38:49 Well, but I don't see any numbers so I don't have a spreadsheet just have a list so I don't have a number what's the last name on the list then oh okay hold on let me go to the to the bottom the oh you're right only goes no no no Z Zoe chance no no Zoe's in the middle of the sets of some sort of a screw-up the last name on there's a Peter No, but I also have Wayne. I've got all kinds of W's I got Trisha. You got a lot of W's at the end Yeah, I got Wayne Barrett. I need that my list craps out at Peter Peter Doherty well one of the Peters. I don't have yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

39:25 Now but above that is is I have a full list. I think it's a full list. It's got Bill Clinton cell phone Yeah, it's got a lot of good stuff on there. I get the biggest kick. I would you know David corn? Yes Aol calm yeah Very good. Yeah, you get to see you get to see how lame some of these guys some of their both their Email addresses are a lot of them. Just Google accounts first and last name, not a big deal. A lot of cell phone numbers, a lot of, it's a good list, except mine is, I'm gonna get a copy of yours because mine craps out. Because I think it's a good, there's a good mailing list in there, you have all the email addresses. And that's why I grabbed it. I personally don't really care, but I was like, oh, John would love this as a mailing list. So I grabbed it for you actually. I'm like, oh, he loves this stuff, because he strips out the email addresses and emails people with his angry rants.

40:24 That's all that's what I do. I just imagine some old fart there. Look at this. I got new fresh meat. I got new fresh meat. I could mail them. So they, a lot of these guesses, it looks like somebody massaged the list a little bit and tried to change the at. Yeah, they did that for scraping. Yeah, but they didn't only did a few because the most of me can do it There was the the raw version was out there too. That's what I got for you, baby. I got the one with the at signs Okay, good. Yeah, that's all I'm taking care of your bro. So it wasn't that you know there was Perry was parents at the word at that's easy to cut to replace I know but I did it for you. No, I appreciate it. I because you're right you beat me and

41:15 That's because I love you man, but it was very I spent in fact that was up too late last night because I was going through the list even though I only had 639 names. I think you have probably 800 before and I just couldn't stop going through the list to see who's on it and what you know He doesn't have George Soros's personal phone numbers or cell. It was not that connected He has a bunch of Hollywood moguls names and phone numbers and cells yeah uh... a lot of hollywood people in that list and uh... he's carlos danger and what do you expect and then a bunch of just names like just there's one daft near something and no information whatsoever yeah does that mean it's just a scurried thing to look at this very it's just entertaining that you should you should when you send your angry rants to the list you should just you know subject line you've got mail exclamation mark

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi Filibuster and "The Mix" Comments

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi conducted an eight-hour speech in support of DACA and "Dreamers," during which she struggled to pronounce the word "dignity." She also shared an anecdote about her grandson wishing for brown skin, leading to criticism that her comments regarding the "future of the country being in the mix" were racially charged.

nancy pelosi· daca· dreamers· filibuster· racism

42:12 You can bitch about potholes and stuff. It's great. Yeah potholes. Did you see the Nancy show? Yes, I watched about a half an hour of it trying to find something good because she was actually doing okay Even though I do have the best slur I could find from you know where she's rather Trying trying to pronounce was actually a teaser on one of our local shows. I think I have it here I play it. We'll tell you tell her what this is about what we're talking about. Yes So this was a Pelosi trying to say dignity now. She's got the word in here dignity. See if you can hear it. I

42:48 Give us a vote, Mr. Speaker. Give us a chance. Treat this house with the Jigny it deserves. I think she said kidney. She said Jigny. Jigny? It sounded like kidney. Kidney. Maybe it's kidney. That was funny, huh? Treat this house with the Jigny it deserves. Well, you know, I'll say this. She's no You know, no youngster and talking for seven or eight hours, you and I have both done it on this show even. It's pretty tiring. And she was very... We could have got another two. Easily. She was very proud of herself.

43:23 Because I kind of came in at the end I saw your tweet and so I watched about you know 20-25 minutes She's very proud of herself She got into that kind of silly giggle and and you know that she was doing this all for DACA kids And you know the dreamers fantastic. She might do it for American kids once in a while That would be fun to watch, but yeah We don't really get that what I found the only clippable bit was this one. I'm reminded of my own grandson he's Irish, English, whatever, whatever, and Italian American. He's the mix. But he looks more like the other side of the family, shall we say? And when he had his

44:06 sixth birthday. He had a very close friend whose name is Antonio, who's from Guatemala, and he has beautiful tan skin, beautiful brown eyes, and the rest. And this was such a proud day for me because when my grandson blew out the candles on his cake, they said, did you make a wish? And he said, yes, I made a wish. He said, well, what is your wish? He said, I wish I had brown skin and brown eyes like Antonio. So beautiful. So beautiful. The beauty is in the mix. The face of the future for our country is all-American and that has many versions. So very interesting what she's saying here. The future of our country is in the mix, which means we will all be brown, which is true. But really, she couldn't say the word white or Caucasian. No, you know, he looks like the other side of the family.

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

DACA Negotiations and Political Bargaining Chips

The political standoff over DACA is analyzed, with claims that Democrats are using "Dreamers" as bargaining chips to prevent the construction of a border wall. Despite President Trump offering a path to citizenship for 1.8 million people, activists have confronted Pelosi, demanding a "clean bill" without concessions for border security.

daca· dreamers· nancy pelosi· border wall· immigration

45:06 The whole thing was kind of a big microaggression to me. Racist. Well, I think it is racist. Textbook definition racist. But, uh, worth noting. That was a good catch. Because I couldn't catch anything. I recorded a bunch of it and I just... It was right at the end. It was right at the end. Right at the end. I should have... I didn't... I thought she was going to go all night. I didn't know she was going to kill it at eight hours. I would have tried to catch something near the end. Yeah. But, uh, she... what was else? There's another... Do you have a Pelosi speech PBS clip? This is about it. This is about this speech. You can play this as a minute. So I'm going to go on as long as my leadership minute allows. The Democratic minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, held an exceedingly rare sort of filibuster, turning her allotted one minute of time into hours, all about so-called dreamers, those brought to the US illegally as children. She said she could not support a budget deal until there was a guaranteed path

46:09 for a bill that would protect dreamers in the house. That is a simple request. That is a simple request that the House Democrats, and in a bipartisan way, others have joined in asking the Speaker to bring a bill to the floor. All about so-called Dreamers, those brought to the U.S. illegally as children. She said she could not support a budget deal until there was a guaranteed path for a bill that would protect Dreamers in the House. Senate Republicans have promised a debate on the Dreamers' status. Speaker Ryan sent a statement out this afternoon urging his House Republicans to vote for this deal. He stressed that he thinks this is the way to end this cycle of short-term budget fixes that we've been in for so long. John? So the way the situation is now is the Democrats are accusing the Republicans, but really President Trump, of holding the DACA kids hostage, using them as a bargaining chip, which they did

47:12 You know this is we have clip after clip of the dreamers even Railing against Pelosi telling her that if she didn't get a clean bill passed you remember this clean clean bill clean bill then you are racist and that's pretty much the message and Yeah, but the Democrats are saying is the Republicans read Trump are holding these poor children hostage for his stupid wall and The reality, the way I see it, is the proposal that has at least been verbalized is, oh no, I'll give all of your DACA kids and the ones who didn't register as DACA, I'll give them all amnesty and a path to citizenship. I'll give it all to them. But I do want the wall.

48:00 And this whole, and so the Democrats in my view are actually holding the DACA kids hostage and using them as a bargaining chip so they can, if they give Trump the wall then they've really lost. This is, they, I don't know how far they're going to go but they will do, as far as I can tell, anything including holding DACA kids hostage to stop Any notion of the building of a wall and it's really fucking pathetic. I think your analysis is correct but I will add a couple things we have local coverage of Pelosi because she's a local girl and She because of that incident where she was, you know She thought she was doing the right thing and you know trying to help the doctor kids and then she goes confronted and

48:48 And I don't know who put this up together, but they did a great job. They confronted her and it became a, it was right local. in a, and almost killed her, uh, it seems, because they got so angry at her because she couldn't deal with them. Because she's old, she doesn't know what she's doing. I actually have one of those clips that, let me see, 34 seconds. This is the, the dreamers who are angry with Pelosi and said, we are not your bargaining chip. They were accusing her of using them as a bargaining chip. She got really flustered. We have clip after clip of this one, but there they are. They were yelling. They wanted a clean bill, which at the time I asserted had to be an organization because this is a political term.

49:51 Now it's in the... But they did mention the bargaining chip thing there and Pelosi figured if she comes out with those eight hours of reading notes from dreamers who have a hard time of it or they got screwed by the ICE people that she would get them back on her side but now that you mention it I think they'll note that they're still being used as a bargaining chip, which is what their complaint was originally. Yeah, but if Democrats do it, then it's not the same. That's with everything now. At least it's not portrayed that way in media. I don't think this is going to get the Dreamers off our asses, is what my comment is. I also don't see how, you know, why they have made this the last stand, this wall, is just beyond me.

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

John Kelly "Lazy" Dreamers Comment Controversy

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly faced backlash after suggesting that some eligible immigrants were "too lazy" to sign up for DACA protections. The comment sparked outrage among Latino advocacy groups, though some observers argue the remark was a general critique of those who overstayed visas, including Europeans.

john kelly· dreamers· immigration· nbc news· white house

50:41 I mean, let him build the damn wall and then bitch about how Mexico is or isn't paying for it, which I think there's a plan for that. I think you're right. There's a leverage there. This is another example of the Democrats not knowing their strengths. I mentioned this before about Elizabeth Warren not using the thin skin thing enough to get, because it was very annoying, but she's kind of dropped it. But they, I think, The fact that Mexico is not paying for the wall is a lot of leverage because then you can keep pointing to the wall saying, look what we did. We agreed to pay for this but with the promise that Mexico's gonna pay for it and we did this, it cost this much taxpayers money and now Mexico's not paying for it. This is, you know, and then you have something to bitch about. However, I think they know how Mexico's gonna pay for it and that's why they're afraid to take that tack. You just do it through

51:33 You know, through taxes. Yeah, well you can. You can afford taxes. There's a million different ways to do it. You can stiff that wall is built. There's plenty to bitch about it cuz though it's gonna be just as ugly and they could make for jokes about the wall the media go look at the wall they could have people scaling the walls and Cut to a clip a beautiful wall it's gonna be a beautiful wall show So many opportunities, but they're not doing it and then chief of staff John Kelly comes out and typical military guy and he says hey you know we offered we offered the the dreamers this path to citizenship and but the only number of people is not even 800,000 it's less than that but we know there's a million million extra people we're gonna lump they were just too you know they either were afraid or too lazy

52:33 Here's a dreamer. Staff John Kelly today swiping some as too lazy to do so. Some would say we're too afraid to sign up, others would say we're too lazy to get off their asses but they didn't sign up. That's not sitting well with dreamers like Angel Romero. It disgusts me how this administration has been continually using this harsh language against our communities against Latino communities it's just wrong. His message to General Kelly? You need to actually consider that your words do have an impact. Hallie Jackson NBC News the White House. Now NBC is the worst. I will suggest

53:17 That most of the... Yes. My wife told me to get off my ass yesterday. Get something done. I didn't take offense to it. So I guess if you're white, it's okay that people say you should get off your ass. You're lazy. Well, I actually see it differently. There's a lot of people who are too lazy to get off their ass and to go register. And I will tell you that most of them are white. They come in from Europe, they overstay their visas, they're working in restaurants. New York City is filled, filled with them, working in restaurants mainly, serving,

53:54 I think they're the lazy ones so you know you pull on the shoe you think fits you best But to me, I think if we did the numbers you would see that the people who were too lazy Were white well, there's probably that yeah, so you know stop being so butthurt over everything and stop victimizing yourself continuously and by the way you want to be American to show some balls son and Yes, I was looking for a segue out of that. I was waiting for your seg. I never give up with anything I Dropped I dropped the ball. This is the jinx Normally, I'd have a segue that's okay. We have a bunch of

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

Congressional Budget Deal and Military Spending

Senate leaders Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell reached a two-year budget deal that significantly increases spending for both defense and non-defense programs. The deal includes $300 billion in new spending, covering the military, the opioid crisis, and the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), while drawing criticism for adding to the federal deficit.

chuck schumer· military spending· opioid crisis· national debt· budget deal

54:46 I'm looking at them just doing my clip list for stuff that I don't think I have any more on this particular thing. No, we do have some stuff on the budget. The budget is a big deal. And that's what Pelosi was bitching about. She's trying to hang up the budget. That's what I think that's what that last segment was about. They've got a compromise deal in the Senate. They both voted for it. Schumer, I made this Schumer clip on the compromise because I think if the Republicans lose the Senate in 2018, which is quite possible because everything switches around usually in that off year, I want to keep this clip around. I believe we have reached the budget deal.

55:23 that neither side loves, but both sides can be proud of. That's compromise. That's governing. That's what we should be doing more of in this body. Because he's going to be the next speaker of the Senate, or the, not the speaker, but the majority leader. And he will be, it'll be his turn to eat shit. Yeah. I mean, the thing, the beauty of the Inkernet that just every single story where you have some douchebag you know talking smack about any topic all you have to do is bing it and then you can find the same douchebag talking smack about the exact same opposite side of that conversation a few years earlier it's just happens over and over yeah and our show proves it. In fact, actually you don't even have to bing the internet we have the clips. That's right go to bingit.co

56:20 You can find all of that. I don't want to stray, but you have budget, because you have another budget clip here. Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff. The budget thing, it looks like it's going to pass. They're making a big fuss about it, but I think they got the numbers to pass this. But of course, let's play, I got budget concerns with them. Where's my budget clips? I have a bunch of budget clips, but let's start with the one I can find, which is budget concerns. This has got some numbers so we can get a feeling for what's going on. They're just spending us right into bankruptcy. The deal centers around the over $1 trillion in spending Congress controls. Defense and non-defense nearly split that total, and both would have faced budget cuts.

56:58 This proposal would increase both, boosting defense about $160 billion and non-defense about $130 billion. That erases budget cuts and adds more as well. In all, it's about $300 billion in increased spending over two years. About two-thirds of that, most of it, is not paid for and would add to the deficit. But those in charge in Congress and at the White House praised the mega deal as well worth it for granting budget stability and strengthening the military and the rest of government. House Armed Services Chairman Mac Thornberry. If you vote yes, you're voting to fix the military. If you vote no, you're voting

57:39 against fixing the military and from the House Armed Services Chairman spending more to President Trump's press secretary Sarah Sanders this still achieves our top priority a much-needed increase in funding for national defense the bottom line is that thanks to the president thanks to President Trump we can now have the strongest military we have ever had and that's just the beginning of the deal it includes billions to fight the opioid crisis for community health centers a longer extension of the Children's Health Insurance Program, and even a special committee to deal with minors and others' pensions. But it wasn't all cheers. The most conservative members exiting the meeting where they learned of the deal were openly hostile to it.

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Freedom Caucus Opposition and National Insolvency

Members of the House Freedom Caucus have voiced strong opposition to the new budget deal, warning that trillion-dollar deficits will lead to national insolvency and bankruptcy. The discussion explores how rising interest rates could collapse bond values, effectively wiping out the savings and 401k portfolios of the American public.

freedom caucus· national debt· bankruptcy· interest rates· federal reserve

58:23 And they went on about, this is just too much money being spent. Well, and all this on military, you know, and this bull crap about, oh yes, the war against opioids. Have you seen the buildup we have going on in Afghanistan, which is to protect the poppy fields? Trump has no handle on the military. They are off to the races doing their own thing. I don't know what... Where's all these, we're supposed to have audits. Yeah, right. You know they're just throwing money away. I mean it's not as though the military is using money wisely. And by the way, we're not talking about, you're always talking about cuts, cuts, cuts. And we have to remind our producers and everybody out there that when they're talking about cuts, they're talking about cuts in an already inflated budget. In other words, you're spending 600 million and you're proposing you want 660 billion. That's the, you want 700 billion.

59:18 Oh no, no, no, we can only give you $640 billion. They call that a $60 billion cut. Yeah, it's a cut in the proposed increase is what it is. Yeah, it's a cut in the increase. All proposed cuts are cuts in the increase. So this is completely crazy. Now this guy, the Freedom Caucus guy was on and he talked way too long but I do have a clip of him. This is a guy in the House who's going to be one of the Republicans who's just not going to vote for this thing so they're going to have to get Democrats to vote for it which means Pelosi's going to get her way and again they're going to have to at least discuss the

59:55 Kids I want to be clear on what you want here that is it are you objecting to the removing the caps? The spending caps that the the Senate is talking about or do you just want that offset that additional spending offset? I want us to be financially responsible where we do not increase the risk of America going through a debilitating insolvency and bankruptcy Just by way of example, and I'm gonna share some data with you You remember we had four consecutive years a trillion dollar deficits that resulted in large part in Republicans capturing the House. And we worked hard to reduce that annual deficit down to $438 billion three years ago. Two years ago it went in the wrong direction, up to $585 billion. Last year it went in the wrong direction, $666 billion. With this bill, we're going to push the deficit through the trillion dollar mark.

1:00:43 That's going to adversely affect credit markets, that's going to drive up interest rates, in turn that's going to suppress the stock market. I think you saw a little bit of that today as news started getting out as to how financially irresponsible this legislation is and how much more money the federal government is going to have to borrow. And you look at all the cascading effects of this legislation, and nobody who has any financial sense at all could possibly be for it. We've already got the Congressional Budget Office, the Government Accountability Office, the Comptroller General of the United States a year ago warning us that our current financial path as a country is unsustainable, which in accounting language is really, really bad.

1:01:21 meaning we're headed towards an insolvency and bankruptcy. And now you add to it a spending bill that increases our deficit by at least $200 billion that collectively with everything else causes us this year to blow through the trillion dollar mark with every single year thereafter being in excess of a trillion dollars of additional debt and you can see that is unsustainable and that will collapse in time, the government of the United States, when we no longer have the money to pay for the things that citizens are used to receiving. Do you think the Freedom Caucus as a bloc is going to stand up against this? Well, the Freedom Caucus by and large puts country first. This is a no-brainer. Quite frankly, the only folks who should be voting for this are the debt junkies who love unsustainable spending bills.

1:02:10 It might be positive, like a sustainable spending bills because you get to spend a lot of money and then the country goes broken we can become communist. Well, but you've always been for pushing, putting lots of money into the economy. You've always been for this. Well, I'm putting money into the, yes, actually I have. I'm a debt junkie. But not in the way that where it's just borrowing. I mean, I don't mind it when it's the Fed doing it by borrowing by selling more of our bonds at low interest rates to Americans mostly. We're the ones, a lot of people don't realize, oh, these Russians and those Chinese, they own all these bonds. The American public

1:02:54 owns most of the bonds. They own it in their investment funds. 401ks and all that. Right, and a lot of the retirement systems use a lot of bonds. They have them in there. So we own most of the bonds and so if anything happens we're the ones who eat it. The American public does, which is what's gonna happen. But isn't the creation of those bonds, isn't that just, isn't that equal the same as printing money? That's what a lot of people would say yes, exactly. It's very similar right hmm. It's not changing the money supply which will actually As the rates increase you know that's your hidden tax and that will remove your tax benefit that you just got When the rates increase the bond values go down and your portfolios are worthless, which is the real same thing and so you do

1:03:48 So when you had say a million dollars in savings, it might become half a million. Wow. And that, well, they could easily double or collapse. I mean if they're... Go by half, I can see that. That's bad. Yes. Yeah. And that's what's going to happen when the banks collapse. Because they have to collapse. I mean these guys all know it's gonna happen They just don't know how it's gonna happen when it's gonna happen could be triggered by anything could be triggered by Bitcoin collapsing or anything else It's just a matter of time. We're just we're living on borrowed time Yeah, I'm a gloom and doomer and you're good at it. Oh

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

Trump Military Parade Proposal and Media Reaction

President Trump’s request for a military parade in Washington D.C. has sparked a divide in media coverage, with Fox News' Shep Smith criticizing the idea as authoritarian. Critics compare the proposal to parades in North Korea and Russia, while supporters argue it is a standard way to honor veterans and celebrate military success.

donald trump· military parade· shep smith· fox news· pentagon

1:04:32 You know it's so far. We're having a good time, but well just just before we go into the b-block You know this whole budget thing and the money for the military somehow spun into Trump wants a parade And I don't know exactly where this came from this Trump wants a parade. I don't know who launched this I didn't hear an official statement by well. They're all Everybody's talking about it. Yeah, I have a Trump wants a parade Yeah, if you have one I don't see it. So now if Trump truly wants a parade, what I think he would do is it would be more of a veterans honoring parade. That seems so obvious to me. Yes, that's what he would do. I believe that's, I believe you're correct. But Dimension B media, ooh, DBM,

1:05:27 You have D.A.M. and D.B.M. Dimension B media, which actually includes Fox News. I do want people to understand that I have suggested for many years that Fox News is run by Democrats. This clip... Not suggested, accused. Accused, and this proves it. At the inauguration, President Trump was disappointed that he could not have a full military parade with tanks and other symbols of American power to mark his ascent to the presidency. At the time, he He was that I don't recall one because I don't recall this either. I think that's made up So that's probably where it came from. Oh, he wanted that no Mm-hmm. Well, it came from his visit to France That's the story, but I have not heard anyone say he wants a parade from with any official status I think didn't Huckabee. He has no no

1:06:16 The tank treads would tear up Pennsylvania Avenue, Shep. It's a lot more than that, isn't it? I mean, you'd have to get them in there somehow. And I guess, wouldn't the light posts have to come up? And how are the bridges? I mean, there's a lot to think about, including the D.C. Council this morning that put a no tank sign up there. Well, and there's also the fact that they will be taken out of training. It would be very costly at a time when defense budgets are a real issue. I would describe... They just increased by $150 billion. What do you mean they're a real issue? However, the reaction at the Pentagon yesterday when this story broke as a collective eye roll from military leaders who I've spoken to, most thought it was a joke at first. Many fear that the US will look like the dictators they scoff at around the world. North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un plans a military parade through his capital tomorrow, in fact, to prop up his authoritarian regime. China and Russia have long held these kinds of military parades for years. All right, stop!

1:07:14 Stop, you dimension B morons. Why don't we just skip the whole opening of the Super Bowl then? You know, there's our militaristic might, we got flyovers. Woo! We got flags, colors presented, at arms. That's not a problem? I don't get it. ...divert attention, divert their population from criticizing their lack of freedom and good government. The tradition in France dates back to Napoleon. The U.S. did, however, once have a military parade on Pennsylvania Avenue after the first Gulf War. Then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney and General Norman Schwarzkopf reviewed the troops, but that was after the military had won a war. Bottom line, from military brass whom I've spoken to...

1:08:00 You said they abandoned it and we can't celebrate the death of ISIS? Whatever the bullcrap is? No, no, no. This is run by Democrats, this Fox News outfit, and Shep Smith proves it. Feeling that they have much more pressing and important issues on their plates and planning a parade is not one of them. He could go see the tanks at a military base if he wanted to. well and they do have parades on those bases we have video of the eighty second airborne they have annual uh... events there are parades and there are uh... shows of military hardware all across the country uh... airborne one that's that's the thing to see absolutely it's not a he just they could get a chance to wear it and you can step in on the last bit this now it's not yet but i was not even fun across the country uh... airborne one that's that's the thing to see

1:08:46 Oh, absolutely. It's incredible. Or they could give him replicas, little mini replicas. I mean, he wants to see what he has. Trump is toast. For the rest of his life, he will be seen as an idiotic moron. Now wait a minute, I'm listening to this thing and then it's about oh how dumb it is we don't need to see all these things and then what's this, Shep, Shep, starts gushing over the, oh this other prayer is so great, it's something to see, let's go see. I mean make up your mind. So he's dimension B, he's hating on Trump even though he loves the thing himself. Yeah, he's told what he's always been dimension B. And yeah, but what's going on is this globalist idea of

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

Cost and Logistics of a Military Parade

The potential cost of a military parade is estimated at $21 million in inflation-adjusted dollars, though the actual incremental cost is questioned since soldiers and equipment are already funded. Concerns are raised regarding the physical impact of heavy tanks on the streets of Washington D.C. and the general militarization of American culture.

military parade· washington dc· infrastructure· budget· pentagon

1:09:30 It's like the Netherlands. I grew up in a country like this, socialist country where we're quiet about military. Oh, we don't talk about that. We don't honor our troops. We don't honor our heroes. None of that. Yeah, they're over there doing stuff. We don't care. We're not really gonna talk about it. And that people don't want, I just don't want to see it. Yeah, we got military. I don't want to know about it. So, so you have some questions. I have a question for you then. They say this thing that we did in 1991 cost between 8 and 12 million dollars then, which is 21 million now, which I don't believe that's true. But it cost, let's say it cost 10 million dollars to do this, which could have been used better by feeding the poor. Yes, no doubt. Now, where's the money, what expenses? You've got a tank.

1:10:27 that is probably going to be used for exercises, it's going to be using a bunch of gasoline, but instead of being used for exercises on a base, it is driven down Pennsylvania Avenue. And then you have a bunch of- But hold on a second, this is just made up. Who said we're going to have tank- this- no one has said this. No, no, I'm- you're standing out, you're stepping all over what I'm trying to bring up as a premise. I'm sorry. I don't care whether they bring a tank or they have some guy- a bunch of naked soldiers, don't care. I'm just asking the simple question is, how do you get the figures? Say you have a bunch of tanks that have been being used anyway, but you have a bunch of flyovers of guys who normally would be driving around their planes in the middle of the desert in Nevada, and you have a bunch of soldiers marching down the road, like let's say 100,000 of them, which is lots. Why does this cost anything? You're paying them anyway.

1:11:21 Well, this is Elizabeth, what's her name? The congresswoman from DC who has no voting rights? Norton. Norton, that's the one. She's the one bitching and moaning about how much it'll cost and it'll rip up the streets with the tanks. Well, ripping up the streets is a different issue. Sure. I have that problem. I agree with her on the ripping of the streets. Here's my bottom line. Well, let's get back at you. You didn't answer my question. How much will this cost? What do I look like? I have no answer for you. Because they're insane.

1:11:57 That's my whole point is no one bitches about the complete militarization of our society, the militarization, the true militarization of our police forces. There's been some bitching about it when Obama was president. Now everyone's pretty silent. The militarization of our sports games, true militarization. Yes. But oh Trump wants a parade. We live in crazy times. I think your point is well taken. Yes, with that I would like to thank you. for your courage and say in the morning to you John C with a C stands for collapses imminent Devorah. In the morning to you. And whoa in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to everybody in the troll room noagendastream.com. Yes we have a different interface deal with it. Is it really what happened? I remember the last show one of our micro services broke down and

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator and Episode 1005

The hosts thank the artist "Almighty MyZee" for the artwork for Episode 1005, titled "Circular Reporting." They highlight the No Agenda Art Generator as a unique community-driven model where listeners contribute creative work as part of the show's value-for-value system.

no agenda· episode 1005· digital art· podcasting· value-for-value

1:12:57 But how does microservices even fit into a chatroom situation? We have an IRC server and I had just put a little widget on the stream page which came from somewhere else, Kiwi IRC, which had been working fine for years until it didn't work anymore. And then I found out that the IRC server we have has its own web interface, so I substituted it for that, and it's different. So people are all butthurt. Oh no! Exactly. And I'd like to thank Almighty MyZee! For bringing us the artwork for episode 1005 circular reporting the title of that I've heard the term several times now in the media Since we since we use it on this show and as the title this was the the big game football With our names on it, which we typically discourage, but it had the nice no agenda logo 33 It was just appropriate was appropriate for the show work. It worked. We liked it. We appreciate it and thank you almighty my Z and all of our artists who

1:14:00 willingly and gleefully upload their creative work to noagendaartgenerator.com as part of their value they are giving back to the show and we use one for every single show. Not many podcasts, if any, are that good at changing the artwork with good artwork for every single show. None that I know of. No, no, no, no. So thank you very much. noagendaartgenerator.com Well, let's thank a few people for being executive and associate executive producers for this show, which is show 1006, named after the supernova. I would mention that we have a balanced

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Listener Meetups

The show acknowledges its Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1006, including Sir Abel Kirby and Sir Road Wolf. Announcements are made for upcoming listener meetups in Buffalo, New York, and Colorado, emphasizing the "oasis of logic" found within the No Agenda community.

executive producer· colorado meetup· buffalo meetup· mailchimp· value-for-value

1:14:44 The group today, we have three executive producers and three associate executive producers. I always kind of like it when it's balanced. And curiously, all three executive producers gave the exact same amount of 3-3-3. Nice. Which I found to be interesting. Starting with Sir Abel Kirby, Knight of the Fighter Flight. Now you know who he is, Sir Abel Kirby. This is the guy you were just going on and on about how great he is. Okay. He did that fabulous mix on the previous show. Oh, that mix. Yeah, that was dynamite. Let me see. It was... let me just open it up here. That was... which one was it?

1:15:29 I think you opened with it. I think it's this one. Oh yeah, oh this. You said it was Hamilton worthy. It was. It's really good. And the guy's... It's just got Broadway written all over it. And he's like, you know, I really don't know how to mix, I don't know how to master. It cracks me up. Heaven forbid this guy has some skills. This guy has a career. A career, I tell ya. He can sing, he can write, he has that whole Broadway vibe, that sound. We have great producers on this show and he's supporting us with his donation. Yeah, can't beat it. Looking forward to another Colorado meetup. Viva la Podcastro! Yes, I gotta go to Colorado now just to see him.

1:16:21 Yeah, well then maybe you can sit him down on a board or two and show him some some tricks. Yeah, I'll show in my my mastery. I'll show him some tricks. Okay, show some tricks and maybe tricks of the trade tricks of the trade of the trade baby Sir Michael of the third world South which stages no NJ NK doesn't want anything. Yeah, I didn't see anything on there you well, let me give him a special karma karma That's the Super Bowl rap. Yeah, that is a sir Michael of the third world southeast. I'm glad you started to appreciate that a little more What the Super Bowl sir Michael the third with that that I so third world Southeast Asia's Seattle is up in Seattle 333 I wanted to donate to 2222 but PayPal won't let me change Or I'm too stupid. I don't know this is this is in honor of sir Michael pocket and

1:17:19 pronounced pronounced it pocket his birthday was the fifth of February so this is for him please credit him and thank him for punching me in the mouth yes he's right you in the mouth and he's on the list okay good deal sir Road Wolf Baron of Western New York again three three three and he says sir I'm hosting a meetup in the no agenda listeners in Buffalo on Saturday March the 17th that the Pyrrhol Street Grill at 530 would like be great if fellow listeners in the Western New York area shuffled, shuffled, it says shuffled, it ends that way, never mind. He wanted me, I'm gonna probably send out a little localized, because with MailChimp you can send out within 150 miles of this zip code email.

1:18:09 So I'll do him a favor doing that and then I would hope that he would develop his mailing list of the locals and then try to start up a, you know, have a meetup once in a while with these people. You'll find that the people that go to these meetups are all of a like mind and are very happy to meet each other because it's like an oasis of logic and reason. It is. It's nice to have. That you don't find anywhere else. Yes, yes. It doesn't matter if you're black or a Latino or you're gay or straight or trans. We got it all. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're 19 or 99. It's the rational people meeting and nobody cares about that stuff.

1:18:55 Uh, Kalen, or Colin, Kalen, Kalen the store in Northville, Michigan will be a first associate executive producer coming here at 233.33. Your last few episodes have been a blast! Especially the last 1,005. Thank you for that. Please blast my friend, a dude named George Melkor, with a douchebag callout. And thank you again. Again. Uh, Tim White, 20871. Birthday? Do he say on the birthday list? Oh, hold on a second. Uh, hmm. Where are we? Hold on. I'm guessing new because I see no yellow. I don't see any yellow either. This is from Tim White. Tim White. Okay. Tim White for... His wife it looks like. Does she have a name?

1:19:51 No. But he wants an F cancer karma and a parenting karma for all. We can do that. I think his wife must have died because of the way he puts this. Oh no. On what would have been my wife's 47th birthday. And this is his birthday donation to... Oh, I'm sorry. To OA. So now I don't know whether he wants a call out for her. Maybe we should not do it. Well, I'm doing it. out of real, okay. Why not? Yeah, why not? I don't know, it's fine. Yeah. I still think of my mom on her birthday. Okay, good. You don't think of your mom? You horrible son, you! You know how, you know, I don't remember people's birthdates or anything, so I gotta get lucky with a lot of them. For example, my daughter's born on 7-11. Oh, well that's, hey, same as Tina the Keeper.

1:20:47 and yes we've mentioned that before and my mother I don't remember the date I still don't actually remember the date but she was born on Reagan's birthday. Well that was just recently just the other day. Yeah well good work. Sir Caris in Somerville Massachusetts 20120 which is a hundred and a hundred out sixty which is our celebration for show Uh, 1006. ITM Jens Loving the memo deconstruction lately keep up the good work. Humbly request chemtrails and Obama you might die. Sir Karras, does he, I'll give him some karma with that as well. Chemtrails. You've got karma. I would say, I would consider that an A, uh, combination. It's a very good combo. I like it too. Yeah.

1:21:49 So those are our executive associate executive producers for show one double-aught six. Wow okay it's a light list. Well it's better than it was first for that one. Yes better than last week. Yeah last week was the last show. Last show yeah last show. Well we want to thank our executive producers and our associate executive producers. Contrary to Any model that's out there and we actually hand out credits that are valuable Usable and real because you have done exactly what Hollywood does when it comes to being an executive or an associate executive producer That's why I should use these credits on your letterhead your business cards your LinkedIn anywhere that they're recognized You can even join a guild with it. We know people who have done that and please remember we have a show coming up on Sunday and you can check everything out at vorac.org

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Former Intelligence Officials as Media Analysts

The trend of former intelligence officials joining news networks as analysts is criticized, specifically John Brennan joining NBC and Josh Campbell joining CNN. The hosts argue that hiring individuals bound by lifelong non-disclosure agreements is a form of "native advertising" for government agencies like the FBI.

john brennan· josh campbell· nbc news· cnn· fbi

1:22:44 Well the media has just been, uh, just been buzzing. Buzzing with, uh, with new guys. New guys and old guys who are all of a sudden coming out of the woodworks and they're now analysts. Have you noticed this? No. So we have, well actually I should play the jingle, that always helps. Oh I see where you're going with this already. Thank you jingle.

1:23:47 So John Brennan is now an analyst for NBC News, former CIA chief. But nothing, nothing got me more than this. He even wrote a New York Times op-ed about his leaving the agency. A new player on the scene, this is Josh... Before you go on with this, I know where you're headed, but I have to ask you a couple of questions. And by the way, this will lead into a couple of clips of mine too, thank you. First of all... If you're a journalistic institution, can you hire somebody that signed a secrecy agreement, they really can't talk about anything, and even if it's about, even say they come in contact with some classified information while doing a story or while analyzing something but they can't say anything and they can't analyze because they have to just keep it to themselves. Is that wise if you're like a, running some sort of a news operation, do you think it's wise

1:24:47 to hire people that are pretty much gagged? Well, can I throw that right back with another question? Do you think it's wise as CNN to hire a guy who wrote in the New York Times that he left the FBI to go into the public sphere to defend the FBI? Do you think that's a good idea to hire that guy for your journalistic endeavor? My answer is no. Why did you resign on Friday? Well, it was not an easy decision. In fact, it was a very difficult decision. But if you ask the men and women of the FBI what the last year and a half has been like, I think to a person they would say either perplexing,

1:25:30 sometimes angering when you see the political attacks on the FBI. And I'm not talking about criticism, I want to start make that point clear. Criticism of the FBI is needed. We have to have oversight. We cannot police ourselves. But what myself and my colleagues have been concerned about are the political attacks, the attacks that go beyond process and more, you know, some other motive behind them. And my concern was the long-term effects on the organization. Now, I could not speak out now as I am to defend the Bureau, to defend our people, and to explain you know, what it is we do if I was still in the FBI. Nor would you want that. You wouldn't want an FBI agent in the organization anonymously, you know, speaking out against partisans. It's not what we do. So I made the difficult decision to leave a career I love, an organization I still love and will always love, in order to defend it.

1:26:22 Oh, sure. They threw a big party for this guy, Josh Campbell, because he's leaving the FBI to go be the spokeshole for the FBI. Yeah, and it was a career he loved, but he loved it so much he had to leave the agency to do God's work in the media. I don't see how this is any different than native advertising. Thank you. It's very similar. Yes, you got a guy in there that's a stooge for the FBI and he's admitted it right there.

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Josh Campbell's Transition from FBI to CNN

Josh Campbell, a former special assistant to James Comey, is scrutinized for his move to CNN and his op-ed in the New York Times. The discussion suggests his departure from the FBI to "defend the bureau" in the public sphere is a violation of the spirit of the Smith-Mundt Act regarding domestic propaganda.

josh campbell· fbi· cnn· new york times· smith-mundt act

1:26:59 And they're gonna let him report. Yeah, and there was already compromised article after article video piece after video piece about this guy. Yeah, he loves the eight He's from the rank-and-file you see and he loves the agency so much that he has taken it upon himself this hero to leave the agency to make sure that he can tell everybody what the agency does because it's all good and defended and they hired him, but it's just really sick It's Smith-Munt in action, propagandizing our own people. There's also this element where I think, I really question a lot of this, I've said this on the last show, having worked for a government agency, the rank and the true rank and file, they usually don't like these guys at the top. No. Because the guys at the top are dicks. And many of them are appointees. They're political appointees, they're not rank and file.

1:27:58 You the only guy you like is your immediate supervisor, and I don't know what this guy was before He just did this very vague about it would Was he in the public relations? What did he do there? What was? There anybody's or is it got a wiki page entry was he uh? I feel bad that I did not look up his Josh Campbell I never heard of him. He'll also be a writing op-eds, witnesses... Yeah, well he's gonna get boring fast. Here's his op-ed in the New York Times, why I am leaving the FBI. The New York Times made space for this, and not just a little bit. Huge, huge thing. Doesn't say... now he

1:28:42 One of the great Josh Campbell does have a wiki page Let me go see if you Josh Campbell being a baby being one of the greatest honors of my life was walking across the stage at the FBI Academy and receiving my special agent badge from the director at the time Robert Mueller sure this guy's gonna be so all-in I mean it's and he is this whole thing is filled with just dimension be bullcrap But to insinuate that he actually left the agency. You know as you say you have a non-disclosure for life Well, he's got he's listed in IMDB that means anything. It's the same guy Josh Campbell with a PB. That's interesting. Yeah, it's him Yeah, so he's in the database as an actor Josh. He was known for his work on 10 chlorophyll Lane It looks like the same guy and it could be wrong. I

1:29:44 It could be a different guy, but the picture of him looks the same. No, it's got too many, too many, no, this can't be the same guy because he got too many credits. No, no, it doesn't look, that doesn't look right at all. So it's probably some other guy with the same name. Well, we don't know. But this, it wouldn't be, yeah, but he doesn't have no, he doesn't, he doesn't have no wiki page. And so that doesn't help. I don't know what he did there, I'd still like to know. Well, you'll never know, they just say former FBI agent is how he will be billed. Is he a field guy? Okay, I'm not looking at this again, now you got me irked. Well... And CNN is the worst, those guys. We got a lot of email and a lot of actually supporting email and then this, you know, on both sides.

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Carter Page Interview and Spook Allegations

Carter Page's recent interview with Laura Ingraham is analyzed, with the hosts maintaining their theory that Page is a planted intelligence asset. The interview is described as a "softball" exchange, noting Page's awkward reaction when Ingraham mentioned his presence in Hawaii and his past employment at Booz Allen Hamilton.

carter page· laura ingraham· fox news· booz allen· fbi

1:30:34 But I still believe that your assessment of Carter Page being a planted spook is spot on. There's huge correlation between an undercover agent or someone who was working for the FBI undercover, who spoke to the same person Carter Page spoke to at the same event. Yet Carter page says that well, I've actually I can I have a couple of clips if you're in jai He was on with Laura Ingram on Fox, which was unbelievable. I mean Laura Ingram must be paid off because when any time the guy said something interesting when he slipped a little bit and said something and this was his first interview on television since this has happened or since the memo came out at least if she complete softball interview and

1:31:21 So you really got to wonder where she's coming from. Well, she's a newbie. She's just brought in recently. She used to be a radio personality. I think she's pleasant. I don't know that she's gonna be tough. She's always yelling over her... well not yelling, she's always interrupting her guests. Just moving the conversation along. With Carter Page, he was completely passive. It was just noteworthy. So I have a couple of clips from the interview. And now what did we also learn about Paige? Because I learned a lot about him, also from an older clip I found, that I think backs up a lot of our thesis and maybe even more. So he also worked at Booz Allen? Yeah, I think it was, yeah. Booz Allen, which was Snowden's gig. I think so, yeah. Yeah, he worked at Booz Allen in Hawaii. That's where he was with his girlfriend before he left to Tokyo.

1:32:23 So here's the first clip of Hong Kong. I'm sorry. Here's the first clip of Ingram with Carter page about How it goes, you know, he really didn't join the administration as we know Clovis made up a list and said let's grab these guys and He sat in one meeting and that was it. That was his entire involvement with the campaign, but of course that was enough if you hold on to our theory of he's a plant. slapped together in 24 hours. I talked to one of the people involved in it earlier tonight and this was kind of thrown together really fast because like we got to have a list of people who are advising us and this is when not a lot of people were helping out Trump in the spring of 2016. And so they came up with this list and you guys had one meeting at the Trump International I understood but after that there was no formal gatherings of this group is that correct?

1:33:29 You actually raised an important point, Laura. I should have clarified, correct, one point that Ed had alluded to. That one meeting, I actually had previous... You were in Hawaii. Well, I haven't said where I was, but if that's... Okay, sorry, you were in Hawaii. Now if it's been real... Okay. Okay, but Carter... Something going on there. He's like, oh well, I haven't really told anyone where I was and I have no proof. Well, that was a very awkward exchange Yes, cuz you know, they had some rule or something. Yes, there were this was one of those just We know about these, or do you have a kind of a scripted... Her question is scripted, you can hear her just leading the witness. That Ed had alluded to. That one meeting I actually had previous... You were in Hawaii. I was in... well I haven't said where I was, but if that's... Okay, sorry, you were in Hawaii. No, if it's been real... okay. Okay, but Carter, you know what I'm getting at? What I'm getting at is you were put on this list

1:34:28 and your past work that you did in Russia, we'll get into that later, raised the red flag. And the FBI apparently had been watching you for some time. Okay, so I just found that you're right, the exchange was uncomfortable, she outed him on something that was not supposed to be talked about, and he mentioned it, and she just moved along. She did this continuously. Now the The meat of Carter Page's involvement in the dossier surrounds a so-called meeting that he had with Igor Sechin, I think it is.

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

Rosneft Privatization and the Steele Dossier

The Steele Dossier’s claim that Carter Page was offered a 19% stake in Rosneft (valued at $11 billion) in exchange for lifting sanctions is dismissed as mathematically absurd. Page’s proactive letters to James Comey offering to speak with agents are cited as evidence of his ongoing relationship with the intelligence community.

rosneft· igor sechin· steele dossier· james comey· sanctions

1:35:05 and that he said, look, if you can get the administration to drop the sanctions, there's a big reward in it for you. And he flatly denies that. There is an entire paragraph, and I believe it's on page 31, where it says that in terms of substance of their discussion, Igor Sechin, who is a very former KGB guy, president of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, said that the Rosneft president was so keen to lift personal corporate Western sanctions imposed on the company that he offered Page, Trump's associate, the brokerage of up to 19% privatized stake in Rosneft in return. And Page had expressed interest and confirmed that were Trump elected president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted. That's right from the dossier, Carter. And I think a lot of people hear about the dossier, but they don't know what's in it. So you're saying tonight that you have never met

1:36:03 Igor, I always forget his name, Sechin, you've never met him. I've never met him in my entire life. What's interesting about it, if you do the math on that, the 19% had a market value of about $11 billion. So if you think I'm going to get paid off some way, that seems like a pretty hefty sum. That's pretty good. I'm going to borrow some money from you someday. Neither of us caught that in reading the memo. We should have seen that as an obvious bull crap story. that he offered him 19% of Ross's net. Yeah, that's not, no one's gonna do that. No, of course not. You can get people to do stuff for you for a hundred grand, why would you give them 11 billion dollars? So if you're... It just makes no sense. But neither of us caught that. Now if you're being outed in the media as a spy, what is your first

1:36:55 Line of defense what what would you do what me when the FBI is accusing you of stuff like this? It's coming out in the press. What would you do? What would you to stop this I'd get a lawyer and I stopped talking No, that's not what he did. I sent a letter to a director Comey on This is the last thing I would think of doing unless I knew the guy I I sent a letter to Director Comey on Sunday, September 25th, 2016, two days after the defamatory articles came out against me. And I was, you know, as I mentioned there, I basically told him everything is

1:37:35 Totally false. If you have any questions about this witch hunt, which is what I called it, please don't hesitate to contact me. I would love to set the record straight and talk with your agents. As I mentioned in that memo to Mr. Comey, I said, I've been in contact with members of the intelligence community for many, many years and I'd be happy to help out again in terms of providing... Oh, I'd be happy to help out again. He says it right there! I've been in touch and I'd be happy to help.

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

Undercover FBI Operations and Carter Page

Reports from the Daily Caller suggest Carter Page may have been an undercover employee (UCE) or witness in a prior FBI investigation involving Russian diplomats. Page’s vague denials regarding his knowledge of "UCE concepts" and his interactions with Russian official Victor Podobnyy are examined as potential cover for spook activity.

carter page· daily caller· undercover employee· kremlin· surveillance

1:38:22 The court case where there's an undercover agent who was a consultant in the energy business, same conference, same hotel, same location, description fits Carter Page extremely well, and this is the meeting where, I forget which Russian he was meeting with, but according to the lawsuit, the transcript that was released, the FBI then put recording devices into binders that were handed off to this two Kremlin officials I guess I can't remember which official it was but he would he was at this conference and so Carter page is going to poo-poo this and Ingram's gonna provide zero follow-up the way you are portrayed and people who don't know you

1:39:14 I mean, I guess people just reading this quickly, headline readers, like, oh, Carter Page is a spy for Russia. I mean, that's what that's what I think. What's what those regular folks who aren't focusing on a lot of these details, that's what they believe. That's what they think. I mean, that case, I was a witness to, you know, there was a diplomat here in New York who I happened to meet at a at a conference. And, you know, we we struck up a conversation. I met him one time after that. And I actually was teaching a course at New York University that semester and I just told him a couple things I was telling my students about and he wasn't really interested and I sent him a couple of course documents. I have a couple questions for you though. There's some things that don't really make sense to me. Completely just glosses over it.

1:40:02 Completely now Daily Caller was able to speak or they so they say was able to speak with Carter page and I asked him specifically About the guy's name is spore a chef spore a chef. I think it is something like that who was spied on and And they said, you know, were you this guy? His answer, I'm just going to quote, I'm not very familiar with the whole UCE concept, that's undercover employee. He initially told the Daily Caller News Foundation when asked if he had heard the rumors that he was an undercover FBI agent. Quote, I would assume that I'd have been briefed if I were somehow in it.

1:40:39 Told that the undercover agent planted recording devices in order to surveil page said well that settles that Never did anything of that variety Come on What variety did you do and the Daily Caller says he was an FBI spy. I still believe he was working for the CIA and I may be able to back that up with two clips from an interview of him in 2016

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Carter Page's Background and Chris Stevens Connection

Carter Page’s history as a Trident Scholar and Eagle Scout is reviewed alongside his past work for Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. A theory is proposed that Page’s personal friendship with the late Ambassador Chris Stevens may have influenced his animosity toward the Clinton State Department following the Benghazi attack.

carter page· chris stevens· naval academy· eagle scout· benghazi

1:41:16 I believe that he was at first friends with the Clintons and that, well I have a theory which is going to be pretty far out there, but I believe he was friends with the Clintons, something happened and then he became not so friendly with the Clintons. Here's this interview, it may even be on RT, funny enough, from 2016. I was a Trident scholar when I was at the US Naval Academy. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, he's also an Eagle Scout. Just a little tidbit to add there, an Eagle Scout. Eagle Scouts are big in intelligence and these are no slouches and not people who just... That's because an Eagle Scout is a no slouch person to begin with. We had an Eagle Scout in my high school. We have an Eagle Scout producer. Yeah, we do. A couple of them.

1:42:04 This is a very big deal, very hard to obtain. And I'd very doubtfully be a Russian agent, but perfect for Spooksville. I was a Trident scholar when I was at the US Naval Academy. They take a couple of people a year to do independent research and as a political science major, I did research on the impact of secrecy on congressional decision making and I did a long research piece and I was a research fellow at the House Armed Services Committee. And previously I'd worked for Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. So for me it was particularly crazy that

1:42:40 there was these steps being taken against me and based on false accusations in the press which had in turn been planted by the Clinton campaign. It was so amazing that you know there's there used to be so much more rigor and now it's just sort of political gamesmanship. Just for example you know when I was working for Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan as a political... Was Moynihan a Democrat? I believe he was, but I'm going to look it up as this clip plays to make sure. I was a science honors major my second class year at the Naval Academy. I was a junior research assistant on a book he was working on called Pandemonium Ethnicity and International Affairs. You know, he was so diligent in terms of looking at a lot of the specifics and with the deep research. And I, you know, one of my jobs was always running back and forth to the Library of Congress to help

1:43:30 go pick them up, some of the latest books and coming back with these big pile of books. And to compare that to just this number one false information, but just citing a couple of basic media reports. There have been a couple of articles that came out and I would constantly get called by a full range of all the, essentially all the major media organizations asking, did you do X, Y, and Z? A few of them would mention that well, We heard about this and they kind of mentioned that it was from the Clinton campaign. So what happened when the Clinton campaign, with something, because there's lots of information that he was involved in the State Department, then, so here's my theory, what went wrong here and why he was happy to spy. This guy looks pretty gay to me.

1:44:30 And I'm just bringing this up to make a point for the second clip from 2016 on RT. I mean, doesn't that frighten quite a few people of the kind of... how powerful are they? To me, I look at that as almost old news. And I think it does keep coming up as the Clintons keep pushing gender issues as part of this campaign. Even in a diplomatic sense, that's a longer discussion. But they've really have been pushing that as a main reason for strength.

1:45:08 I'm really playing that card pretty intensively. But should we believe WikiLeaks as we're told not to by the networks? I mean, CNN famously said even reading it is illegal in the United States. You know, it's not your contention that it is just a a Kremlin-operated outfit? pushback in terms of the actual, speaking about veracity of information, you know, it's certainly a big question mark surrounding that as well. So, and again at the end of the day, you know, the U.S. has pushed for free and fair elections in a lot of countries and I think as we've seen here, these types of harsh tactics against U.S. citizens and, you know, people like myself who have served in the military. I think, you know, I've had a number of people

1:46:05 who have lost their lives, including Chris Stevens. Just having, you know, he was a good friend of mine, both on a personal level but also on a professional level. He was just the kindest individual. So, here's what I'm going to suggest. He was good. He was maybe lovers with Chris Stevens, the way he talks about him. That's the way he talks about him, yeah. The page is 46 and unmarried, so... It doesn't mean anything, people, but this is just a show. I'm not trying to be a bigot. Maybe they were lovers. Hillary killed Stevens, at least did not protect him properly, and that's when he just went, screw this, and he's mad forever.

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

Carter Page Lawsuit Against Broadcasting Board of Governors

Carter Page has filed a lawsuit against the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) and Oath Inc. (parent of Yahoo and Huffington Post), alleging they disseminated government propaganda against him. The suit centers on the 2013 repeal of the Smith-Mundt Act, which Page claims allowed the BBG to target American citizens with state-funded narratives.

carter page· broadcasting board of governors· smith-mundt act· oath inc· yahoo news

1:46:55 And now he's so mad that he's taking it too far. And I think he's going to be in very, very big trouble with the things he's saying in this final piece. We're going back to the Ingram interview now. He is suing the federal government and other outfits for defamation of character and slander. You're actually suing, are you suing the federal government? I mean, I think you saw New York Times tonight is pushing for a release of all the underlying documents in your case. Are you in favor of that? Absolutely. And actually one of the articles that's mentioned in the

1:47:32 the House Intelligence memo from Friday. It references one article and actually that was rebroadcast by a state propaganda agency in Washington. Broadcasting Board of Governors funds Radio Free Europe. And for the last 70 years, most of its history, it was supposed to be used for offering ideas to countries around the world. They changed the law in 2013 and now they can push government propaganda in the US. So this was the first election where that ever happened. And actually, that's run by State Department. It's run by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, but they put that Yahoo News story out. But you're suing the Broadcast Board of Governors and who else? Very quickly. Oath Inc., which is the parent company for Yahoo and Huffington Post, which has a ton of articles.

1:48:22 Okay, let's unpack this. In 2013 as part of the National Defense Authorization Act, the Smith-Mundt Act was repealed, which meant that the Broadcast Board of Governors Who were desperate to use new media to propagate, you know, we actually do this stuff. We accuse Russia of it, but we do it too with the Voice of America, Voice for Europe. We have them all over the world and we also do it online. That's why it had to be repealed because once it's on the internet, you cannot do what the Smith-Mundt Act stated, which is you cannot propagandize the American people. And he's saying that it was the Broadcast Board of Governors who were propagandizing this bullcrap article from Yahoo. Oh, interesting. And he's suing the Broadcast Board of Governors. Oath Inc., by the way, which he mentioned, I had no idea what was going on with this.

1:49:16 Oath Inc. is a subsidiary of Verizon, but they own Huffington Post, they own Yahoo, they own AOL. Let me pick up, let me get their page here for a second. Oath, yeah, Oath.com. Brands that people love. Here we go. Their brands are Tumblr, Yahoo, TechCrunch. Hold on. Why is, why am I getting this? Don't do this to me. Show me your brands. Here we go. Yahoo. AOL Yahoo Finance HuffPo tumblr AOL bright world tech crunch newsroom Verizon makers Yahoo Sports Yahoo Gemini and gadget Yahoo mail and riot and that's just the top names and They're pretty powerful all of a sudden. Yeah, they've been buying up these operations and you know selling ads across the whole swath of them no doubt and

1:50:13 So for Carter Page to go after the broadcast board of governors, I think that's thin ice. But he either he was left out to dry or I don't know what happened. Well, Chris, I'm looking at him, I think you might be right. In fact, I think it's obvious and you may take a look at... Well, I also have links in the show notes to some gay sites who are outing him. So I have a little bit of backup. Now... And we know Chris Stevens was gay. Now if you have a, yeah they probably were good friends, but if you have this guy, if they had these guys, if this guy's CIA, he should have some protection, unless he's been completely kicked out. Well not if he was brought in by Brennan.

1:51:08 So he should have some protection, but I'm wondering, you know, if he starts doing stuff that's not approved, I think he's gonna lose that protection pretty quickly and could get killed. Yes. Or hung. Oh, he's gonna hang himself, it'd be a suicide. Yes. No, no, he'll hang himself, self-asphyxiation, masturbation. But that would be... Just to humiliate him a little bit. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, this is it. I think you've dug up some good stuff here. I'm fascinated. I'll fold that into a story that just came out. Oh, and there's one thing I did want to add. I think it benefits him, and I think it helped him on the Laurie Ingram show. When I read some of his

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Christopher Steele as a Longtime FBI Asset

Judge Andrew Napolitano discusses the revelation in the Nunes Memo that Christopher Steele was a "longtime FBI asset." This status raises legal and diplomatic concerns regarding the "Five Eyes" agreement, as Steele may have been working for American intelligence while still an active MI6 agent, potentially constituting espionage.

christopher steele· mi6· fbi asset· five eyes· devin nunes

1:51:54 Bio they there was mention of how he's now perceived as kind of a goofball Yes, and a loose cannon and an idiot was credit. He's being discredited. Yeah. Yeah There's actually one other clip I have You that kind of relates to him, but certainly relates to Christopher Steele and the whole memo business, which is another thing we talked about in the previous show. This is Judge Napolitano on Fox, of course. But Steele, Chris Steele, the now former MI6, that's the British version of the CIA agent, presents a very interesting problem here. This is the issue.

1:52:31 This is the wording in the memo that came out last week, the Republican memo, that the FBI and the DOJ fought aggressively against. And it's the following reference to Chris Steele as quote, a longtime FBI asset. To most people you'd say, all right, the FBI has all kinds of assets. Well, He is a former British intelligence agent. We have an agreement with the British government, Canadian, New Zealand, Australian. We will exchange information. We will not cherry pick each other's agents. He apparently was cherry picked by the FBI. If this happened while he was an MI6 agent, he could be prosecuted for espionage by the British government for being a British spy at the same time he was an American spy.

1:53:20 So that phrase in the memo that he was a long time FBI asset, we know he was doing work for them. They were interested in his work. There's still, I think, some discrepancy over whether or not they were paying him. But they also say that they released him at some point. Yes. So they had some kind of relationship, whether it was monetary or not. I think they had a monetary relationship and at some point they decided either it wasn't credible or we can't trust you because you have become a leaker and leaking classified material is a line that cannot be crossed Mr. Steele so you're no longer with us. Now he left MI6.

1:53:56 in 2009. This is very serious stuff. If before he left MI6, he was an FBI asset. The Justice Department and the FBI, which is not run today by the same people that were running it then. We're talking about Eric Holder and Jim Comey. has an enormous problem on its hand. That would explain- 2009 is a long time ago. Correct. We're talking about the 2016 campaign. Correct. But can you prove that there was an overlap in his MI6 time and his FBI asset time? We don't know. But you know they were upset about that line? Yes, and I know that Congressman Nunes intentionally used the ambiguous phrase long time. Does it go back to 2009 or before or did it happen afterwards? I also know that explains the ferocity with which the FBI tried to prevent this from coming out. Thank you, Jess. We'll stay in touch. Good to see you tonight.

1:54:50 Oh, thank you. I'll tell you why. That clip explains most of the complaining about this memo. It does. Because everybody saw this memo and called it the nothing burger, but in fact if that little tidbit has anything to do with anything... And it explains the this will damage national security because that does damage our national security with our relationship with Five Eyes. Right. Which is what all the countries are. We're not supposed to be doing that, what we just, what we did with that guy. Exactly. Exactly. And yeah, it's against the rules. So, so, huh. Well, okay, go on, continue. I'll transition.

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

Election Hacking Terminology and Port Scans

The use of the term "hacking" in relation to the 2016 election is criticized as misleading, as most reported activity involved "port scans" rather than penetrations of voting machines. The hosts argue that scanning a voter registration database is fundamentally different from altering vote counts, despite media insinuations to the contrary.

election hacking· port scanning· vpn· cybersecurity· voting machines

1:55:38 Into the into the Russians what what the accusations are and this is where words really matter This was a despicable piece on NBC about the Russians hacking our election Let's talk about some terms before we before we clip paid to play this clip. I So, hacking is just a term that I think should be outlawed. It's up there with glitch. So, if you penetrate a system, you're inside a system, there's all kinds of further information that could be given or reported on, but it's just now just hacking. Tom, Dick and Harry, you know, oh they hacked, they hacked our election. Which insinuates hacking the voting machines. That's what the insinuation is. How many times have we have we caught representatives in Congress, oh the Russians hacked our election. Yeah, when you're done with this clip I have three clips or two. Good. No, I got two clips I need to play which are right on the same topic. Good, good, good, good, good, good. Good, good, good. So what we know is that

1:56:42 And we have all the reporting and I'm sure it could be seen this you could just being it being it dot co you can find it that there was no hacking into there was no penetration of voting machines there were port scans which I guarantee you right now is happening to your router at home it happens on all of our servers you see continuous scans which is the equivalent of casing the joint seeing if there's a window open is there a port open that I can get into to penetrate a port scan is not hacking The databases or the systems that were port scanned and now it turns out one or two may have actually been penetrated was the voter registration database for each of these states, which really, I mean, you could create a cool mailing list.

1:57:32 But you're not going to ha- I know. Hey, I'm not sure it wasn't you. Through a VPN, making it look like the Ruskies. You know? We'll call you JCD Bear for short. But even if you do that, that's not necessarily hacking the election. So now we're going to hear this despicable piece with the woman who runs the cyber department of Department of Homeland Security, Jeanette Manfra. And she is going to really confuse the interviewer and the whole piece.

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

DHS Cybersecurity Warnings and State Resistance

Jeanette Manfra of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) warned that 21 states were targeted by Russian government hackers, with a small number successfully penetrated. While DHS is offering cybersecurity assistance for the midterms, several states, including Texas and California, have resisted federal involvement or denied that their systems were compromised.

jeanette manfra· dhs· nbc news· voter registration· midterm elections

1:58:08 with a new piece of information that solidifies there was no hacking of our election whatsoever. Tonight, a senior intelligence official with direct knowledge of the top secret report says several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised. Now, they say it up front. So that's truthful. I don't know if they were successfully compromised, but just the database of the voters. More nitpicking about stuff. You know the Russian government I mean there's we have what the Kremlin was sitting there and on a SSH connection You know it could have been hackers or people who were working for the government you say something other than just the Russian government Please several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised by the Russian government

1:59:09 This, after U.S. officials had previously revealed 21 states were targeted. We asked Homeland Security's Chief of Cybersecurity, Jeanette Manfra, about that secret document. And I can't talk about classified information publicly. We saw targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of that 21 were actually successfully penetrated. The fear Russia would remove voters' names from the rolls, creating chaos. Really? That is now the story? The Russians tried to remove names from the database to create chaos? Let me tell you, when you... I voted here in Austin. I saw plenty of people who weren't in the database. You show a driver's license, you show something with your address, you're good to go, you vote.

1:59:55 Right, this happened to me a number of years ago. It's total bullshit. Potentially swinging the election. Swinging the election. How can you even say this? We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of... This is, what's his face? Jay Johnson. Voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government. Oh, he said the scanning, okay. Jay Johnson was DHS secretary when these Russian intrusions were taking place. U.S. intelligence knew by the summer of 2016 the hacking originated from Russia. Hacking, now did that. Two months later, they told the public. It turned out voters' names were not

2:00:33 removed in 2016. But what about this year? My worry is that since that time, a lot of states have done little to nothing to actually harden their cybersecurity. I would not agree with that assessment. I would say they have all taken it very seriously. NBC News reached out to those 21 states, California and Texas among others, say their voter system was never attacked. I stand by the list. This was a snapshot in time with visibility that the department had at the time. But now, with nine months to go before critical midterm elections, what's being done to secure the vote? DHS is offering cybersecurity help, but some states tell us they're still waiting. Is there a waiting list for DHS help in the election? No. There's no waiting list.

2:01:21 No waiting list. But some states question whether the federal government should be involved at all. What do you say to the states who say, we're fine, we're good, thanks a lot, see ya? I say you're being naive and irresponsible to the people that you're supposed to serve. 2016 was the wake-up call. And now it's incumbent upon states and the feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again. Many of the states complained to us that the federal government did not provide them with specific threat details saying that information was classified and state officials did not have proper clearances. Well, DHS Assistant Secretary Manfred tells us those clearances are now being processed. Okay, so the take... Yes.

2:02:08 I have a different take on this, but give me your takeaway first. Oh, well, all I'm hearing is Russia, huge threat. They're going to hack the midterm elections and we're not ready for it. And the second layer of this is that the Trump administration are incompetent because there's this classified information. These guys haven't even got clearance, so they don't know how they can fix it. and you have a spokesperson, Jed Johnson in there, who's got nothing, he's not even in business anymore, so why is he doing this? This whole thing was planted by the intelligence people. You had Cynthia McFadden as the main reporter, who's very unusual on NBC. She's the 2020 woman and she doesn't do this sort of thing on the nightly news, but she did this one. And I wanna play, from my perspective, and this may help your overall argument,

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

Intelligence Leaks and Approved Media Messaging

A 2013 speech by whistleblower Thomas Drake is used to argue that "leaks" to major media outlets like NBC are often approved government messages. The hosts contend that because intelligence officials face polygraphs regarding unauthorized press contact, any "top secret" report appearing in the news is likely a coordinated plant.

thomas drake· james clapper· national press club· classified information· nbc news

2:02:57 The operative clip, because I don't have to play the clip that I wanted to play, because you played the exact same clip from beginning to end. Oh, okay. But you don't have this ISO, which I want to elaborate on. Top Secret Reports. Tonight, a senior intelligence official with direct knowledge of the Top Secret Report says several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised by the Russian government. Okay. So that's where they got their information supposedly. Now I want to go back to 2013 and I want to go to Thomas Drake's speech to the National Press Club on talking to the media and I want you to consider this when you consider the report you just played. You mentioned that former colleagues said to you that they believe talking to reporters is a crime. Do you believe that that attitude is pervasive among government employees and maybe you could address it

2:03:47 inside and outside of the intelligence community. It is true that in the intelligence community, of which I was a part for many, many years, both as a government employee and as a contractor, and even in the military, that you are, you do sign secrecy agreements. And these vary based on the agency. The secrecy agreement that I signed was to protect the agreement, what they call protected information, which by definition was classified, truly classified, or under classification review. It was actually carefully articulated in terms of executive statutes and rules. There was this misunderstanding that if you happen to speak to a reporter, that by definition, anything that you might say to them could be characterized as classified. Because you, unless it was authorized, then you were in an unauthorized status.

2:04:38 And therefore, you are liable under administrative rules. You may have heard very recently that James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, is now directing, adding a question, questions to the polygraph mechanism in which individuals are either going to be obtaining a clearance or retaining an existing clearance Well, he asked about unauthorized contact with the press. And so, yes, I had individuals that I used to work with who assumed that it was criminal under the US law to have any contact whatsoever with a reporter. In fact, I was even asked that question by Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes a couple years ago. It's not a crime to speak with a reporter. There are certain administrative rules governing what that looks like.

2:05:29 I was under an administrative rule that said if I were to have unauthorized contact reporter that was liable to certain administrative sanctions at that time the worst That would could occur is they no longer trusted me and they would remove my security clearance, which would be a condition of continuing employment Ah now let's go play that ISO one more time Okay Tonight, a senior intelligence official with direct knowledge of the top secret report says several states had their voting registration system successfully compromised by the Russian government. The guy needs to be fired.

2:06:08 Or gal the guy did it on orders. This is the joke of these I do not believe anything This whole thing was done by the orders of someone up the top saying here give her this information Tell her it's top secret and then then then tell her how to handle it. Yeah, because she has to protect you and There's no way that NBC, especially Cynthia McFadden or anybody else there, is getting top secret information to report on because these people are taking polygraph tests so they can't even talk to the media. So anytime you hear this, this is a bogus report. They're not reporting on anything. Right. And if anytime you hear

2:06:49 That this was a you heard from a source. It's just an approved message is is the takeaway. This is an approved message Designed to get it to this whole this could a whole thing could have been written by the CIA for all we know It's a bogus story and you're right your analysis of it just shows how bogus it is. Yeah unreal So we cannot trust the media. No, which is why we're here and before we go into the d-block One of our producers, I'm going to keep anonymous for now, I think that's probably what she wants, works at a very large advertising agency and is putting together reports for us on the new advertising trends. Oh nice. Yeah, that's what I said. Here's some trends. The big word coming up in advertising is going to be authenticity. Authenticity.

CHAPTER 34 / 42 Discussion

Value-for-Value Donations and PayPal Logistics

The hosts process a series of donations from listeners, including a $111.11 contribution from "Sir Neat Man." They clarify that a PayPal account is not required to donate, as the platform also functions as a standard credit card processor, and they encourage listeners to return value for the reporting provided.

value-for-value· paypal· credit cards· diners club· podcast funding

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2:16:20 Some of these promotions don't work, as you notice over the years. The last few have not worked so well. So this one, this one also had, for everyone, because I know everyone could afford a $10.06 donation to celebrate show 1006, also the Supernova 1006 that took place on May 1st, the year 1006, and we had a grand total, because $10, I mean anyone could afford that, right? You'd think. Yeah, it was three. Three people came in with $10.06. So it was less than I expected. Well, the way the system works is very simple. We give you the value of the show, we put it out there, you can do pretty much anything you want with it, and all we ask for is that you consider returning some value in kind. And as long as that keeps up... And by the way, I want to mention that you don't have to have a PayPal account when you go over to the PayPal site. They take credit cards and run it. It's also a credit card processing company.

2:17:14 No, people realize some people I think What are you saying? Well a lot of people I think they see was a PayPal link I don't have a PayPal account so I can't give them any money Okay, well, yeah, I believe there is a misconception. Yeah. I'm sure you're right Maybe you should make that a little more clear on the made it very clear in a newsletter recently I've made a whole topic out of it. Okay, and a little card visa logo next to your link and No, I'm not doing that. The links are right in the flow of whatever I'm writing about. A little Diners Card logo perhaps. I bet you still have one. We... this is a long story about Diners Card. You have a Diners Card, don't you? No, I don't. We don't. This is a long story. I do not have one. I use American Express.

CHAPTER 35 / 42 Discussion

Birthday Callouts and Donation Errata

A series of birthday wishes and "karmas" are read for listeners and their families. The hosts also address "errata" and "make-goods" for donors whose notes were previously missed or caught in the "vortex" of the show's administrative process, including a de-douching for Trelawney Kelly.

birthdays· karma· ryan sterko· trelawney kelly· make-good

2:18:04 Mm-hmm. Don't leave home without it. All right, everybody. Thank you very much. We do another show on Sunday. It's very important that you support us. If you find the value in the program and the reporting, we're certainly working hard for you. And you can find information about that at... For all who need it, some specialized karmas. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got Karma It's your birthday, birthday, I'll know what you think. And we start off with the belated birthdays. Ryan Sterko says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Sherry. She turned 40 on January 30th. Benjamin Shirky, better known as Sir Man on the Mount, says happy birthday to Dame It. She celebrated her birthday yesterday, February 7th. And on the horizon we have Tim White saying happy birthday to his wife. She would have been 47 today and we appreciate the call out she received there.

2:19:08 Mike Newman, happy birthday to Sir Michael of Third World Southeast Asia, celebrated on the 5th. Russell Rhodes says happy birthday to his son Vikram. He turns 8 years old today and there's never, it's never too soon to get him started on the NOAH Gender Show. And happy birthday from Uncle Adam and Uncle John! And of course I should have read the errata Before we went into that segment because there may be a birthday missed which we'll move it to the next show if that's true I have a Make good right. I have a bunch of to him. So I'm gonna read after you're done Yeah, this is a I just congratulated his wife Ryan Sturckow said my wife and I love the show We are forever grateful for my uncle who introduced us to the show during the 2016 election while he was visiting for Thanksgiving You imagine that at Thanksgiving your wackadoodle uncle starts talking about the guys

2:20:03 That being said, I haven't heard his name come up during the donation segment, so he needs to be called out! Same goes for my brother and wife! They're all douchebags, unless of course they donate less than $50 for reasons of anonymity. If this is the case, then please accept my sincerest apologies and keep up the good work. Anyway, anyway, thanks to you guys and all of the producers for the hard work in making this the best podcast in the universe and keeping my amygdala at a healthy size. NJNK. Thank you, Ryan. I have to commend, I think you read this note last show, I think. Yes, I did. I said that there was an issue, the issue and the peerage committee was going to... It's in advance right now, we're being discussed. Ryan Sterko made a donation several shows ago. I just read his note. Oh, that's what you just did? Because I'm plowing through, sorry, I'm reading through these. Okay, you're plowing through it. By the way, if you're going to send these notes, send just one of us. Oh, good luck with that. Yeah, it doesn't work, I know. Okay, here's an anonymous note. Let me read this.

2:21:12 Anonymous, no, there's too many notes, too many notes. You may want to read this for the show and figure out what you guys want to do. I've donated $500 for our 10th anniversary episode on the producer credits. My name is not mentioned in the Dame Knight credits, nor was it mentioned during the super long knighting ceremony. I went back and listened to the related shows again to find the links and clips from my evidence. I hate to put a burden on you, but because I know what you do, it's time that it got cleared up. Okay, so do we need to knight him? I'm starting to decide. I don't want to spam. Just a long note. If I'm to be a black knight, he wants to be Sir Sean Black Knight of the dude's name Ben. You just add him. Mm-hmm. And yeah, and what's his real name? His real name is Anonymous. Okay, so we have two Anonymous today. Yes, we have. Well, who's the other Anonymous one? Sir Neatman.

2:22:11 I'm just another one from Ryan. I made this donation several shows ago. This is the one I think they got lost in the shuffle. I haven't been heard it mentioned yet. Not sure what it takes to get a call out, but I assumed a donation 321 couldn't hurt my cause. No, you should have been on the list. We had a bad one show that you got bumped. Mm-hmm. I didn't donate frequently and therefore my lack of experience probably led up to this mix-up if you get this message Please let me know what specifically I can do differently next time nothing you did the right thing Did he have jingles or something he wanted played? Well, he didn't put it on here, but we're gonna make him an executive producer for this show. Ah, okay Well, let me put Ryan Sturckow

2:22:50 And then he did that well here. No, how many notes did Ryan send? You know he sent a copy of the PayPal note which has his note right, but he's Geez well that was the make-good. He says it was an error so he said no I know I know but I just read a make-good and now there's another second make-good is this from Sterko yes Well, he says njnk so what there is no it doesn't make any difference. I'm just he's cursed and Well, he did. No, he got into the vortex. This happens to a guy every once in a while. I've talked about this before. Yes, it's the vortex. It's the vortex, I agree. Now, we have two knightings to do then, so if I can have your sword, please. Hold on. I've got one more. Trelawney Kelly.

2:23:41 I sent you guys a hundred bucks via PayPal for show 1000 just listened and in case I missed it for the he didn't catch my name this is one of the mixups from show 1000. This is Trelawney Curley from Waikiki in Western Australia just south of Perth. Your place. I humbly request a de-douching and some divorce jobs karma. We'll give you the de-douching right now. You've been de-douched. Ah, here's some karma. No problem. You've got karma. No! Okay, that's your divorce karma. Yeah, there you go. Divorce karma. Caught up! Yes, all good. Now, where's your blade? This one's heavy.

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Neatman and Sir Sean Black

In a formal knighting ceremony, two anonymous donors are elevated to the No Agenda Roundtable. They are dubbed Sir Neatman, the Knight of Napa, and Sir Sean Black, Knight of the Dude's Name Bend, and are granted access to the exclusive peerage benefits at NoAgendaNation.com.

knighting· no agenda nation· sir neatman· sir sean black· peerage

2:24:22 Hold on a second. It's on the floor. Oh, geez next to your keyboard. No doubt. No. Oh, damn it. Hold on. There it is. I got it. Okay. Very good. Hello, anonymous and anonymous, both of you. Head on up the podium here, you are about to join the very elite and exclusive club known as the No Agenda Roundtable of our Knights and Dames. And I'm going to pronounce the K-V with the following. You are Sir Neatman, the Knight of Napa, and Sir Sean Black, Knight of the Dude's Name Bend. Gentlemen, welcome to the Roundtable. For you we have, by request, kebab and Persian wine. We've got brisket and barrel, aged copper ale. We've got pinball and power cords, goat chops and goat milk.

2:25:02 Polish potato, vodka, diet soda, and video games, breast milk and pablan, cowgirls and coffin varnish, bomb hits and bourbon, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, and mutton and mead! Both of you Anonymi, now knights, can head on over to NoahJenTheNation.com slash rings. Eric the Shill will gladly hook you up with your rings and your accreditation, etc. Just give him the information he needs, which includes your ring size. Funny how that works. All right. We let me just see locally locally and We see hey, is there an asparagus council? There's guy I would I'd be stunned if there wasn't well somebody didn't oh, yeah, I saw this into a media spend

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

Asparagus Health Claims and Media Contradictions

Contradictory health reports regarding asparagus are highlighted, noting that articles shifted from praising its health benefits in 2017 to linking it to the spread of breast cancer in 2018. The hosts joke that such shifts in scientific reporting often depend on whether the relevant industry "paid the bill" for favorable coverage.

asparagus· breast cancer· health benefits· media bias· nutrition

2:25:57 Somebody's got these contradictory articles about asparagus. It's gonna kill you! No, it's the best thing you can have. Yeah, so this is an article from last year, 10 Reasons Why You Should Eat More Asparagus, and it starts off with, the spring veggie boasts a long list of health benefits. Yeah, because you know how I feel about that. Yeah, it's about veggie, of course. So it's fabulous. fabulous to eat asparagus but then they didn't pay the bill and this year spread of breast cancer linked to compound in asparagus. You're gonna get breast cancer from eating asparagus unless they pay the bill. Yeah then it goes the other way. Yeah. Bound to be wrong. Yeah troubling. No threat. Yeah I've been observing for quite a while the lack of children amongst our young population

CHAPTER 38 / 42 Discussion

Millennials, Pets, and Climate Change Birth Rates

A discussion on declining U.S. birth rates explores the trend of millennials choosing pets over children, often citing climate change and environmental costs as ethical reasons for not reproducing. The hosts criticize this as "propaganda" and note the potential long-term societal impact of a negative birth rate.

millennials· birth rates· climate change· dogs in restaurants· population decline

2:26:54 Yeah. And they see dogs seem to be the way to go. You know, last night, let me ask you a question about this. We went to the restaurant in our building. Yeah, we went to the restaurant in our building, which I don't want to mention because they won't know my building, but you know which one I'm talking about. And it has good food and particularly if you just bop in and you don't do a, you know, you don't do full wine and everything. You just, you know, just have a meal and it's kind of set up that way, kind of like a French bistro really. Then it's reasonably affordable just for the two of us. And we're sitting there and it's already, you know, the way they do it is just like the French with, you know, small tables just for two, you know, all in a row. So you kind of have three conversations going on at the same time. You're hearing your neighbors and you have your own conversation. And then a woman walks in with a dog in her arms and just, you know, has dinner. I don't think this is okay.

2:27:48 Well, it's very French. The French have dogs in their restaurants. Really? Usually. Really? Oh yeah. But that's on the plate. In bistros. That's on the plate. That's what they serve you. But I mean living dogs that people bring in as their pets. Yeah, that's not uncommon. I don't think it's okay. I know you hate dogs, I don't blame you. I don't hate dogs. I hate- One story after another you hating on dogs. I mean it seems to me I add up two and two, dog hater. I'm not a dog hater. I've had many dogs. Okay. But you know your dog belongs- doesn't belong in the restaurant. It was like would I bring my kid into the restaurant? A baby? I've done it.

2:28:28 Well, I don't know. I've never brought a dog to a restaurant. I don't think that's appropriate. I agree with you for all but I've seen people in a lot of French restaurants in this country and in France but in this country do you see a guy with a dog and a dog is usually calm and sitting there is like one of the better dogs. I had no problem with the dog but yeah does that mean I can bring my German Shepherd in or is there a size limitation? Can I just have the dog lying next to me and I'd like to know what the policy is then? Ask him. I'm talking to me about it. Believe me. I'm going to ask well because we're on the topic of dogs that people are you know accumulating dogs instead of children and you step away We're not on the topic of this you started it by saying that it's like that's what I said I was on the topic of that and that's how I came back your dog in the restaurant. It was a little sidetrack use we

2:29:17 Okay, I'm by the way. I'm in agreement with you in general. I don't like people bring it especially they're holding the dog Isn't it feeding him a little bit? Yes holding the dog at the table yeah, yeah, it's like eating with the dog is it's and the reason I say kids is because you know They're now treating them like children, but anyway the New York Times. This is new I A lot more are treating them like children. A lot more. A lot more. And it's obsessive and it's sick. And I just want to read this one thing. The New York Times has done investigation and what the Millennials are saying is we don't want to have children because it's the best thing you can do to save the planet. This is a yes. I understand this is a huge problem. Because of climate change.

2:30:15 Yeah, right. Yeah, how can you be suckered into taking this approach? This is just let's see how stupid you know We let's get these people not to reproduce anymore and then we can like just take over the place Yes, yeah add this to the list of look how dumb they are. They shouldn't be reproducing anyway. Here's the way I see it You shouldn't be reproducing anywhere if you're so stupid to believe this propaganda Among them there's a sense of being saddled with painful ethical questions that previous generations did not have to confront. Some worry about the quality of life children born today will have as shorelines flood, wildfires rage, and extreme weather becomes more common. Others are acutely aware that having a child is one of the costliest actions they can take environmentally.

2:31:06 Let me take a look out the window. The birth rate in the United States, which has been falling for a decade, reached a new low in 2016. Yeah, it's actually negative in California, except for the Latin community. How long does it take for the birth rate to be, you know, minus 1.8? For the population to start dying about three generations, and then you're fucked Oh Good well, I don't care our kids won't feel it either their kid. Yeah, Theodore able he's fucked orables gonna eat it. Yeah The adorable's dead man walking right there Okay excellent, he'll be the one that moves out of California probably

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

Internet Censorship and Political "Bullying" Laws

Reports from the Irish Parliament reveal that websites like UFOdisclosure.com are being blocked under security policies prohibiting "alternative beliefs." Simultaneously, UK Prime Minister Theresa May is calling for new laws to crack down on the "abuse" of politicians on social media, which critics view as an attempt to shield the elite from public criticism.

ufo disclosure· ireland· theresa may· net neutrality· censorship

2:31:51 It gets thrown out. You know, these the filters are in full full force everywhere. Filters on the Inkernet and I got a note from one of our producers who works in the Irish Parliament building. We have the greatest producers and he he was doing some surfing as you do when you're working in government. You won't actually work. He tried to access the site UFO disclosure calm because he's been hearing a lot about it recently It's pretty old, but he went he went to go to that site and he got a block web page blocked Now listen, but here's the message UFO disclosures calm. That's the URL This page is blocked due to a security policy that prohibits access to quote alternative beliefs

2:32:47 What is it what's up alternative beliefs is like a ufology a belief system i know but it's a category because it actually says url colon ufo disclosure dot com client ip server ip category colon alternative beliefs what about protestant If you're a pro- if it's a Catholic country, if you go to which I think you're talking about Ireland not Northern Ireland. Ireland. So you can't go to a website that's produced by the Lutherans? It's an alternative belief. I guess, I guess. So I just wanted to point that out as a very disturbing trend. But the best- There's your net neutrality right there in a nutshell. That's net neutrality for you people. But the best- that's a good point. The best is Theresa May.

2:33:34 who is calling for a new legal crackdown on the abuse of politicians and other public figures on social media, stating that online bullying has now become a growing threat to democracy. How's that work? The Prime Minister said that social media platforms such as Facebag and Twitter have become quote places of intimidation and abuse for public figures. Get off Facebook! And said that new laws were now needed to make sure quote what is illegal offline is illegal online. Yeah, there's your net neutrality part two. Yeah, in a major speech to mark the centenary of women's suffrage in the UK, May said the Law Commission would look at which new laws were needed to crack down on offensive online communications. So that will only be for politicians. You want to call out a podcaster? No problem. You want to call out a Kardashian? No problem.

2:34:33 They truly are lifting themselves above the population now. Yeah, a bunch of elite jerks. And the Brits love you guys, but you're just taking it up the butt. You should consider stopping them from doing that. Yeah, there's a thought. Yeah, just stop. Stop that. Doesn't the Magna Carta say, you know, free speech? No, the Magna Carta is out. It's older than our Constitution, that's how out it is. Yeah, it's done. Hey, I heard a weird, here's a couple of weird clips, a little, how we doing? Yeah, we got about 10 minutes. Okay, let's do a couple of these clips. Ooh, can I do the Trudeau one, just for people who hadn't heard it? Yes, please, please, I don't have it. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau embracing political correctness by quickly correcting a young woman simply for using the term mankind.

CHAPTER 40 / 42 Discussion

Justin Trudeau and "Peoplekind" Correction

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau drew international attention for interrupting a woman during a town hall to correct her use of the word "mankind." Trudeau suggested the term "peoplekind" was more inclusive, a move the hosts characterize as an extreme example of performative political correctness.

justin trudeau· canada· political correctness· mankind· peoplekind

2:35:31 The love that's going to change the future of mankind. So we'd like you to... We would like to say people kind, not necessarily mankind. More inclusive. There we go, exactly. A woman was asking Trudeau to make it easier for religious charitable organizations to provide help for those in need. People, people kind. As he mansplained to her, you can't win. You just can't win. We can't win if you're a douchebag like that guy. Yeah, but do you know how many people are douchebags like this now? Who really think that that's great? Yeah, everybody that's not listening to this show. Yeah, there you go. Yes, correct.

CHAPTER 41 / 42 Discussion

Rex Tillerson Warnings and WikiLeaks Comparison

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warned that Russia is already attempting to influence the 2018 midterm elections. Meanwhile, CIA Director Mike Pompeo publicly compared WikiLeaks to non-state hostile intelligence services like Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah, labeling the transparency organization a direct threat to American democracy.

rex tillerson· russia· midterm elections· mike pompeo· wikileaks

2:36:18 I just want to get this one quickie out of the way, which is this Tillerson versus the Russians clip, which was only played on one of the networks. And I still think it's important, so I wanted to play it. Thank you. Meantime, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson tonight warning that Russia is already trying to influence the midterm elections and that the US is ill-equipped to stop them. In an interview, Tillerson saying the US must continue to make it clear that if they do not stop, they will quote, invite consequences. Ooh, M's fighting words. Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. We discussed it earlier in the show that bull crap is what this is all about. I have something that I moved from last show. I wanted to move it in because I think you might be interested in hearing this because I don't think they're talking about you. This is from a sports talk show called Jalen and Jacoby.

2:37:13 Play it. That was the first one I noticed. Okay, and now who are these Jamoaks? Jalen Jamoakis? Well, I would like everyone who knows these Jamoaks to go tell set them straight. Yes, Jalen was a basketball analyst, an NBA player, and this guy Jacoby was just a jock sniffer as far as I know who likes to, you know, do these sports shows. Yeah.

2:38:10 I mean, they don't even know that Steph Curry is my brother from another mother. Uh, you want to get this whole clip out of the way? There's the Disneyland off with their heads clip which talked about the missing heads on the Disney characters in this place. Yeah, this was at Disney's California Adventure on the Little Mermaid ride. The animatronic Ursula terrified riders after her head fell off. This is my accident. You can see it hanging on cables and then on Disney's Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean ride, the auctioneer was seen with his head also hanging by some threads. The site really upset several ride-goers, especially the younger ones.

2:38:55 It was supposed to be a fun experience and the kids are traumatized. You can say the therapists are outside hitting our car and they get off the road. Oh geez, wasn't that funny? Local news. Yeah, well I'll play one here. This is Mike Pompeo, our current director of the Catholics in Action on Well, just categorizing certain groups. So, historically, the threats to the United States and your, I'm looking around the room to see how old everybody is, your history books would have all reflected threats from countries. What was America doing against the threat from Yugoslavia or some other nation state? Today, the threats are much more varied than that. Whether it's threats from groups like Hezbollah or Al-Qaeda, threats to our information systems from groups like WikiLeaks. They don't have a flag at the UN.

2:39:58 and they present real threats. What? Yeah, WikiLeaks is just like Al-Qaeda and ISIS. What? And Hamas. Yeah. Yeah. Holy mackerel, I'm giving you another clip of the day. I have to say, I wasn't expecting it, but when I heard the clip again, I'm like, hell yeah! That's right, everybody. Just like Hamas and Al-Qaeda. That is your WikiLeaks. Yeah, it's a threat. How's it a threat? It's a huge threat. Threat to our democracy my friend just like the hacking our election. Here's I got one This was this is a little offbeat. This will be the last one so it better be good at the other Well, none of them are good We want something good I'll play you the 1941 spam commercial that this used to be on the radio when you listen the radio they used to embed the commercials which you're gonna have to do again and this would be what you'd hear it's Monday night and time for Burns and Allen and

2:40:58 And when the kitchen clock warns, hurry up mother, time for the youngsters to come running home, take it easy and solve the school lunch problem with SPAM. S-P-A-M. Spam is that delicious meat originated and made only by Hormel. It's packed in a handy can, all ready to eat as soon as it's open. No fuss, no bother. Just cut off slices of this taste-tempting meat, put between slices of buttered bread, and say to the hungry youngsters, have a Spamwich. A perfect combination of sweet, juicy pork shoulder and tender ham, Spam has an extra goodness and meaty flavor all its own. Youngsters go for spam in a big way. Try Spam Tomorrow. When you see the easy recipes on the label, you'll discover you can serve spam cold or hot. It's America's popular mealtime aid. So ask your food dealer for SPAM Spam. It's good to be reminded of it once in a while, isn't it? Oh yeah. Very good. I like that. Very nice. That's right everybody, it's spelled SPAM. Have a nice Spamwich.

CHAPTER 42 / 42 Discussion

Outro, Spam Commercial, and Alphabet Song

The show concludes with a vintage 1941 radio commercial for Hormel Spam and a custom "No Agenda Alphabet" song. The hosts sign off from the "Cluedio" in Austin and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show at dvorak.org/na before the next broadcast on Sunday.

spam· hormel· alphabet song· amygdala· podcast outro

2:39:58 and they present real threats. What? Yeah, WikiLeaks is just like Al-Qaeda and ISIS. What? And Hamas. Yeah. Yeah. Holy mackerel, I'm giving you another clip of the day. I have to say, I wasn't expecting it, but when I heard the clip again, I'm like, hell yeah! That's right, everybody. Just like Hamas and Al-Qaeda. That is your WikiLeaks. Yeah, it's a threat. How's it a threat? It's a huge threat. Threat to our democracy my friend just like the hacking our election. Here's I got one This was this is a little offbeat. This will be the last one so it better be good at the other Well, none of them are good We want something good I'll play you the 1941 spam commercial that this used to be on the radio when you listen the radio they used to embed the commercials which you're gonna have to do again and this would be what you'd hear it's Monday night and time for Burns and Allen and

2:40:58 And when the kitchen clock warns, hurry up mother, time for the youngsters to come running home, take it easy and solve the school lunch problem with SPAM. S-P-A-M. Spam is that delicious meat originated and made only by Hormel. It's packed in a handy can, all ready to eat as soon as it's open. No fuss, no bother. Just cut off slices of this taste-tempting meat, put between slices of buttered bread, and say to the hungry youngsters, have a Spamwich. A perfect combination of sweet, juicy pork shoulder and tender ham, Spam has an extra goodness and meaty flavor all its own. Youngsters go for spam in a big way. Try Spam Tomorrow. When you see the easy recipes on the label, you'll discover you can serve spam cold or hot. It's America's popular mealtime aid. So ask your food dealer for SPAM Spam. It's good to be reminded of it once in a while, isn't it? Oh yeah. Very good. I like that. Very nice. That's right everybody, it's spelled SPAM. Have a nice Spamwich.

2:42:04 And we will return with more Spam for Your Witch on Sunday with the 1007 of the best podcasts in the universe. Please remember us at thevorac.org slash NA. It's the fuel for the engine that keeps us running. It's very important. It's your show after all. Yes, it is. Until then, coming to you from downtown Austin, Tejas, where all of Texas sends it homeless. Phoebe region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5 by 9 Commonwealth condo in the Cluedio Well, the Cluedio is 5 by 9 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley the nation's hotspot I'm John C. Devorak. We return on Sunday right here on no agenda until then as always my friends Adios mofos

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2:44:07 There's a star man running through the sky He'd tell us that the Earth's flat But he thinks he'll blow our minds There's a star man running through the sky He says he sees a flat plane But all it's just a lie, he's doing BS, we live on Kepler's full of shit, Copernicus a wanker. I think a big feat would be for one of our producers to do the song Born Gay and then go with the model of Born Free. Born Gay.

2:45:01 Looks like you're a hoe. We know from the alcove that you're Twitter-themed. All day, we need your complac. Can't argue with science. We know what you are. Stay.

2:45:37 Oh, you're gay, the owl goes to silent. You know you're into guys, but there's nowhere to hide. Oh, you're gay, and you'll never find them. So why not try Grindr? Cause you're born gay!

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