Topic: Carolyn Heldman

A story from the early days of MTV involves VJ Carolyn Heldman, who was marketed as a "girl next door" type. The hosts recount an incident where Heldman appeared on camera with unshaven legs, causing a stir among network executives. She was eventually fired after refusing to shave or cover her legs, an event described as an early "Me Too" moment or a clash over personal grooming standards in media.

The discussion shifts to Heidi Cruz's role in her husband's campaign and her background at Goldman Sachs. The hosts then pivot to "appearance bigotry" in media, with one host sharing a story from their time at MTV involving VJ Carolyn Heldman. Heldman was allegedly removed from the set because executives disapproved of her wearing shorts that showed her thighs, highlighting the harsh standards of television production.

Adam Curry discusses his contribution to a new book about the history of MTV, where he shared "dirt" from his time as a VJ. One anecdote involves the firing of VJ Carolyn Heldman because she refused to shave her legs. The segment touches on the "mean world" of 1980s television production and Curry's upcoming release of YouTube outtakes from that era.