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00:00 But do hookers have a certain walk? Well, yeah. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday December 17th 2015 time once again for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 782 This is no agenda Protecting the world from vitriolic rhetoric and broadcasting live from the capital of drone star state here in FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I found out one thing you can get downloads to work by jiggling the handle. I'm John C DeVore It's a known fact jiggle the handle all should be well, herro

00:43 I'm sorry for the dead air. Roro, we lost John! It'd be free show it's pre-show jokes. Yeah If you want to catch all the inside jokes tune into the pre stream exactly actually in the next pre stream We're going hopefully did you listen to my yeah? I think it needs a little work before we do I have some comments need well There was some confusing bits in there, and we'll talk about it Okay John John's put together something for the pre stream which will draw a crowd of 80 maybe if we're lucky

01:23 Well, I know we both did it. Did what? Watched that shit show known as the debate. I didn't watch it live. I watched it with a 15 minute delay and caught up during the only three commercial breaks how do these guys think they're gonna make money on this That was much less than I thought they would do I didn't pay attention to the number because when you have the whole thing on digital recorders, just plow through it. You don't count. Right right But i have to say that I was bored to tears Whoever was producing this show really messed up And that's why they only got 18 million viewers They could've easily gotten 20 if they hadn't bored everybody

02:14 Well, they decide on this stupid topic. Here's the way it began just to point things out so people know how well this was produced and I want to mention while you're going to listen to this is the Deb which means debate CNN production but before we play it I want to mention as they're doing this this is the way began as they're doing this screw up, which was a good 10 seconds. Which is just amateur hour I think the thing is very amateurish there was where the cameras were placed it was a bunch of people standing out and their head was in the way and then they had to go to camera two and somebody boomed his stand-up and their head was in the way It was horrible! I know how the control room is in that case

02:54 Because you have the director calling the shots and the assistant director is the one who places the cameras and people ahead of time so that they're ready for the director to cue that shot. And then, the camera guys are offering shots all the time. You can get into this exact reverse rhythm where you're hitting all the wrong shots! It happens a lot and I think that was a good example But this is the way it began.

03:44 Yeah, oops Wow what are they paying these guys minimum? It does happen though. It's a live show it's a bit too big thing to produce But I have to say I was quite impressed by broth. I was quiet you may be impressed I actually would yeah, I think he did fine. He did very well keeping rolling Yeah, I've been in the Venetian and I didn't know that room existed in there oh I'm sure they have all come in isn't that the room where Celine Dion performs? I don't know hmm. That is a key that room is dying my dynamite Yeah, do you see the reverse angle shot we have from behind the stage although wow that's fantastic was that was nice That was really nice Hey Why does Melania the Trump's wife why does she always have her coat over her shoulders when she's walking around boils On her shoulders right yeah

04:42 Thank you, but we thought we'd solve that and tidy that one up all right. Yeah No I thought you were gonna continue with your I will say when I was watching You know, Donald Truck is driving his Mac truck through the same obvious gaping hole. He said Donald Truck! That's what I meant. Donald Truck is driving his Trump through the same obvious gaping hole that no agenda hits in the media landscape people even if it's right or wrong and if you're wrong you apologize he'll just want to hear someone being honest and not using big words vitriolic rhetoric

05:33 Well, I found that Trump did one of the best jobs except he never really...he wasn't as mean as say I think he should be. And let me give you an example. He went back and forth with... Bush is an idiot. He's cross-eyed and he makes it worse, he's got those big Coke bottle glasses that...and he's obviously farsighted which is you know, if you want your leaders to be nearsighted But he's farsighted, so they magnify his eyeballs. He looks like a freak up there with these two big eyeballs looking around and he's just the loser." This was the first time that I had that kind of schoolyard type vibe where you get kind of the wimpy guy who is complete douche trying to... It feels kinda bad for him, ya know? Just didn't feel good about it.

06:30 Was for Bush? Yeah, poor sap. Well... The guy can't win! Forget it- Can you just imagine the pressure of that family and all of the money and everything they've got all piled on Oh let me ask you this question Wasn't this supposed to be The year. Everybody was, oh Citizens United screw that! The Koch brothers are gonna own everything! Koch Brothers! They're buying the election! Super PACs will ruin politics and here is the frontrunner in the Republican race who has no super PAC is not you know it's spending very little money comparatively speaking

07:13 So all of that was, why aren't the Koch brothers able to get rid of him with their beautiful friends there on the dais? I thought that was a shoo-in. Clearly not! Nobody's pointing this out for obvious reasons. It's bullcrap, that's the reason. But I think it is very important to point it out! Yeah...it is very important There are a number of things to point out as you kind of deconstruct this thing In one instance And by the way people need to remember next time someone says Koch Brothers and Biden the country You say Donald Trump is leading with his own money and not spending a lot I guess thats bullshit And he's getting no support from the Koch brothers No zero from the Koch brothers

07:55 So I guess that kind of proves that, oh wait a minute. You can insult your way to the presidency? That's now what it is! You can't insult your way to presidency! Should we play the Bush clip? Bush said yes. Governor Bush Commander-in-Chief question you said that mr. Trump is not qualified to be president because he's not qualified to deal with Vladimir Putin Why are you better qualified to deal with Vladimir Putin than Mr.. Trump? Because I first of all, I know what I don't know I Know what? I don't know. I would seek out as I have yeah, is that Is that something, why did he say that? I know what i don't know. He says the stupidest thing you can say. Why are you better? Because I don't know anything! Qualified to deal with Vladimir Putin and Mr Trump. First of all, I know what I don't know. I would seek out as I have the best advice that exists. I won't get my information from the shows. I don't know if it's Saturday morning or Sunday morning.

08:54 I will seek out the best advice and I will create a strategy and I will persuade the American people what the role of America should be. I've laid out a policy of rebuilding our military." Snore! Did you see that Putin has endorsed Donald Trump? No, he hasn't seen it yet. Yeah in his big year...I don't have any audio of it yet because obviously in Russia is his big year-end marathon call to president telethon He said yeah Donald Trump very intelligent guy He said that? Yeah! Well apparently I haven't had time to have it vetted by our Russian native speakers.

09:31 But that, of course is perfect. You know it couldn't get much better than that. Oh even Putin likes Trump! He's no good he can be president? You watch and how hysterical... Well the other thing is that Bush in that little comment said that you know he made some reference to The Morning Show so did that twice in the debate yes yeah now this I don't know what this is referring to To the Sunday shows, I presume. Yes but no he's directly aimed him at Trump as though Trump must have said that I listened to Sunday morning political... Oh yeah, I think he says that often you know? I don't remember him saying it ever and I don't know what Bush was trying to accomplish with this kind of jibe And by the way all of Washington bases their policy on the Sunday shows everyone sitting there going oh man how about Benghazi

10:22 That was positioned on the Sunday shows. Well, here's the clip that I actually wanted you to play. All right? That clip is... You played the right clip but now that i think about it, I think you should have played this. This is The Screwball Complaint by Trump. I want to set this up. They go to Trump on something and Trump goes on to a tirade aimed at CNN for using him as the nexus for questions. And he said it happened in the morning too, and what he was saying...and I'm surprised that he didn't jump on Bush when he interrupted him What he was saying

10:58 was not that this is ridiculous, the harsh questioning on me as it was under one of the shows earlier where the Fox won. He said he was saying this is unfair... Here's what he's saying. This is unfair to all the other candidates to keep focusing on me with your questions to them! It's a brilliant move And that's what he said. He says it is unfair to them and I don't know why you're doing it, It's unfair, it's stupid, it's unprofessional, he goes on and on about it. Bush jumps in! and thinks that it's, he is not listening to him. And so Bush thinks well you think the questions are tough now? They're gonna get a lot tougher later! As if he is not even paying any attention whatsoever and Trump should have jumped back at him and said look I'm not talking about me I am talking about how unfair it is to the others to keep focusing on me You idiot It's very sad That CNN leads Jeb Bush

11:57 Governor Bush down a road by starting off virtually all of the questions. Mr Trump this, I think it's very sad and frankly I watch...I think it is very sad And frankly, I watched the first debate and the first long number of questions were Mr. Trump said this, Mr. Trump said that, these poor guys although I must tell you Santorum good guy, Governor Huckabee good guy they were very nice and I respect them greatly but i thought it was very unfair that virtually the entire early early portion of the debate was Trump this, Trump that in order to get ratings I guess. But Mr. Trump it's not CNN. In order to get ratings I guess. I just think its very unprofessional. Excuse me! I think its very unprofessional. It wasn't CNN it was me. I watched you last night for 16 minutes. Well I watched your...I think it is very unprofessional. Its not CNN

12:49 It's America is watching you. Okay, fine. I was mentioned so i can bring up something I think right? Look the simple fact is if you think this is tough and your not being treated fairly... This isn't tough at all! I wish it was always as easy as you Jeff. Or dealing with the Islamic terrorism that exists. This a tough business to run for president. Oh no your a tough guy Jeb. And we need to have a leader who is real tough. You're never going to be President of United States. I'm at 42 and you're at 3. So so far, I'm doing better. Bam! Bam! Bush is just the worst this guy. Trump is doing a very smart thing he's positioning himself as the winner of these now he's saying hey you're all my friends. Except Bush Well no even in the after show... He's very cordial, he shakes everyone's hands Yeah exactly

13:43 But I thought Trump was making a good point, but it was lost. Because Bush comes in and... It was just lost on Bush and but his point was okay from a winner standpoint Yeah, that's probably true now the other one that really got to me Was they should get Chris Christie should not be up there he is an idiot John, you generalize. You generalize so quickly. I'm 43 and you're 3! Christie is a hawk of the worst sort

14:23 I'm gonna just to back up before we play the Christy clip and then ran Paul comes in actually counters him quite well. Yeah, what? Does he think he's talking about what right do we have and Hillary is on board with this and soared Carly for sure yeah the no-fly zone Why are what gives us the right this is not our territory This is not our we got nothing to do but see Rand Paul Rand Paul actually explained exactly what the situation is. Well, let's play this clip. If the US imposed a no-fly zone over Syria and a Russian plane encroached, invaded that no fly zone would you be prepared to shoot down that Russian plane and risk war with Russia? Not only would we prepare to do it I would do it. A no fly zone means a no fly zone. Well that's what it means. How much were you hoping someone was going to say Brolf? But I was really hoping...I was really putting it out there

15:22 Maybe because I'm from New Jersey, I just have this kind of plain language hang-up. But I would make very clear that I would not talk to Vladimir Putin in fact, I would talk to Vladimir Putin a lot and I'd say listen Mr President there's no fly zone in Syria you fly in it applies to you and yes we would shoot down the planes of Russian pilots if in fact they were stupid enough to think that this president was the same feckless weakling that the president we have in the Oval Office is right now I had to look it up. I'd look up feckless Stop the clip right there, and I want to jump to another clip okay? I want you to play the ISO clip I have here which comes from a longer clip Which I will also play later at me this is the Which one is me my so that's the meme I said no that's them. That's a different one Okay Where's the other one oh?

16:12 I have Tapper ISO. Yes, Tapper ISO. I want you to play this and listen carefully...this is Jake Tapper at the beginning of the show, at the pre-debate and listened to what he says first. He lists a name of people that may be implied. Listen to the order of the people who's the first person he mentions then and listen to his language. Is a Chris Christie, is a Marco Rubio? Is it Jeb Bush? Is it Ted Cruz going to say what you are proposing. Look I oppose everything that Obama's doing and I think he's feckless and I know... Good catch! So he lists these people that he thinks there's yet some... He puts Christie in the top of the list using this same crazy word you had to look up

17:00 that Christie used. Now, are you telling me there's not some meetings going on? I'm pretty sure that the way these debates operate that there is some knowledge of the questions and there is some knowledge of statements perhaps maybe there's leaks that's possible by the way feckless means lacking initiative or strength of character or irresponsible feckless then you kind of tag that on with a feckless mama's boy Yeah, so of course that is too coincidental. These are fantastic points to make! And everybody during the debate also seemed to think that Hillary Clinton was still Secretary of State

17:44 They just kept on talking about the Obama and Clinton, Obama and Clinton. Yeah they were trying to push that meme... These are memes they're trying to promote to get people associated in their brains with the feckless even though nobody knows what it means yeah the feckless uh obama and the lying Hillary. Let's play the rest of this clip. Because Rand Paul comes in and sets him straight, he sets him straight. We're stupid enough to think that this president was the same feckless weakling that the president we have in the Oval Office is right now. Feckless! That's a bumper sticker. Feckless? Back off, feckless. Senator Paul

18:27 Senator Paul, I want you to respond to what we just heard from Governor Christie. If there was a no-fly zone, you say that potentially could lead to World War III? Why? Well, if think if your in favor of World War III, you have your candidate! Here's the thing... My goodness, what we want in a leader is someone with judgment not someone who is so reckless as to stand on the stage and say yes I'm jumping up and down. I'm going to shoot down Russian planes! Russia already flies in that airspace it may or not be something where were in love with the fact that they're there but they were invited by

19:04 Iraq and by Syria to fly in that airspace. And so if we announce we're gonna have a no-fly zone, and others have said this Hillary Clinton's also for it, it is a recipe for disaster It's a recipe for World War three We need to confront Russia from a position of strength But we don't need to confront Russia from a point of recklessness that would lead to war This is something, this type of judgment. It's having that kind of judgment who you would appoint and how are you going to conduct affairs that is incredibly important I mean when we think about the judgement of someone who might want World War III We might think about someone who might shut down our bridge because they don't like their friends

19:46 I thought that was a good one. Of course, Chrissy said nothing about it The thing that nobody brought up and i'll bring it up because such an obvious thing And it refers to the no-fly zone. Why? Why, why what is the point of a no fly zone? Well what is the... The ISIL people do not have airplanes! And also in this whole two and half hours, not one single question about why are we even in Syria? I would have hoped that Donald Trump would have said, look this whole thing is about some bullcrap pipelines and control of this port. And Russia's been their supplier for years it's pretty obvious that this isn't stuff we should really not be a part of but he doesn't do... He may not know! There was..I need to play one clip This was the most bizarre interaction uh

20:47 Of the evening as far as I'm concerned, although I do have a few clips from the earlier debate. From The Kids Table as they call it. Yeah and I like to hear those. I missed that! And this was Hugh... What's his name? Hugh from the Salem Radio Network or something Who cares?! He is a right winger Oh he is a right winger? He is a right wing talk show host He is an idiot Is what he is Local, local, West Coast local These questions that he posed to Ben Carson were just eye rollers People admire and respect, and are inspired by your life story. Your kindness, your evangelical core support... We're talking about ruthless things tonight. Carpet bombing, toughness war. And people wonder could you do that? Could you order airstrikes that would kill innocent children by not the scores but the hundreds and thousands? Could you wage war as a commander in chief?" So this question is

21:40 Why does no one ever ask the president how easy is it on Tuesdays to sign these death notices knowing that you're going to wind up droning 16 year olds and killing him? The question like, are you tough enough to kill children? What is this? And his answer, Carson's answer was just as off the wall. As a commander in chief. Yeah. Well interestingly enough You should see the eyes of some of those children. Before I kill them? When i say to them... I'm gonna kill you! We're going have to open your head up

22:16 Hey, little kid. I'm gonna have to open your head up and take out this tumor." They're not happy about it. No! I bet they aren't. Believe me. Yeah so i'm used to unhappy children who are killing And they don't like me very much at that point but later on they love me sometimes you That's almost like Donald Trump Oh he said that in fact I sound like him And just got worse from here. If you go ahead and finish the job rather than death by a thousand pricks. So you are okay with the deaths of thousands of innocent children and civilians? It's like... And the crowd has finally had enough of it too! You got it, you're okay with killing children?!

23:17 They're asking this of Trump to like it would do you mind killing children? Ruthless as Churchill was in prosecuting the war against the Nazis It's Herschel was not the American president. As far as I can remember Why does this guy bring up Churchill? Can you be his ruthless as Churchill? That's well, he was the prime minister at the time in the wars against the Nazis. Ruthless is not necessarily the word I would use... And it's also a dissimilar situation, I'm seeing too many of these false comparisons. Absolutely! They're all over the place and maybe in one of my clips there will be another false comparison Tough, resolute understanding what the problems are and understanding that the job of the President United States is to protect the people in this country and do what is necessary. No you're supposed to protect and uphold and defend the Constitution but okay I'll give that one to ya. Good to be here bros! Alright well let me try to up the ante on crazy

24:19 I'm waiting until you hear the first debate. Yeah, okay. We're saving that. This one to me...when I watched this little clip and then of course Bush comes in and jumps in and misconstrues the whole thing again. The guy...Bush is the most dangerous man up there because he really does seem like the dumbest This one to me I thought was revealing because people always think, how do you get so big in the real estate business in New York? You may sometimes come up with some sort of...you may be absorbing certain kinds of ideas. Possibly. You might make some interesting friends. In the terms of Kaiser Sosa kind of level and this is the kill-the-family strategy clip

25:07 Who's Kaiser Soze? There was a, uh...Kaiser Soze. Most of the people in the audience will get that reference I'll explain later. Okay thanks dad Here is the question from Facebook listen to this I'm Josh Shacob from Georgia Tech. Recently Donald Trump mentioned that we must kill the families of ISIS members, however this violates the principle of distinction between civilians and combatants in international law so my question is how would intentionally killing innocent civilians set... Before we get to the question what was this with this Facebook thing? They started the show off they had a video wall of at least you know 50 Facebook people ready to ask questions. I counted two!

25:47 Were those only intended, you know... What was the reasoning behind only using two? I don't know. I think this was a botch of this whole show. I think so too. My question is how would intentionally killing innocent civilians set us apart from ISIS? Mr Trump We have to be much tougher. We have to be much stronger than we've been, we have people that know what's going on you take a look at just the attack in California the other day there were numerous people including the mother that knew what was going on they saw pipe bombs sitting all over the floor They saw ammunition all of the place they knew exactly what was going on when you had the World Trade Center ago

26:24 People were put into planes that were friends, family, girlfriends and they were put into planes and they were sent back for the most part to Saudi Arabia. They knew what was going on. They went home and they wanted to watch their boyfriends on television I would be very very firm with families And frankly that will make people think because they may not care much about their lives but they do care believe it or not about their families' lives Donald, this is another example of the lack of seriousness. Look, this is troubling because we're at war. We're at war but Trump actually answered that perfectly. The lack of seriousness what could be more serious than this idea? Yeah yeah What is Bush thinking the guy's a moron! The usual suspects I got it but have not seen the movie that's why Oh you'd love this movie But the chat room was like Jesus Kerry watch a movie once in awhile

27:20 I'm too busy doing the show for you. I got no time for movies. It's a good movie Let me play something from the from the earlier debate yes, I would yeah, do you have any good in any my favorite guy? Who's your favorite guy? Lindsey. Yeah Well, I have Lindsey and I have Rick Santorum both reasonably short quotes Okay, just go do you here's Rick Santorum first this is an important time in our country's history We invented World War three world war three has begun And we have a leader who refuses to identify it as

28:01 and be truthful to the American people, to the stakes that are involved. Alright so you can't disagree with that World War III has begun I'm not a big fan of Santorum's and it irked me he said that because this is kind of one our thesis on the show Yeah! He should stop stealing our material Yes Well have to say Lindsey Graham took our material and then went over-the-top And I am begging people to wake up to Syria. The next 9-11 is coming from Syria, it's coming soon We better do something about it and I have a plan He has a plan! The next 911s coming from Syria Okay So that was pretty much That was it? That all those guys were saying Eat in and you get these duds Not duds Duds they're good They're good I did see Morning Joe

28:52 had a theory about Trump and Cruz which you could kind of expect someone to come up with this. I'll tell you what, after the debate i just started thinking this was an inside deal that you've got trump and cruz that were kinda hitting each other but they see now that they're locked in first and second place everybody else is at distance third notice everybody on the stage was attacking everybody but the top two guys right so trump goes after Jeb Cruz goes after Rubio. Yeah, the establishment's two favorite candidates and they refuse look at this They refused to touch each other It smacked of an inside deal if this maintains the status quo neither Jeb is it a smart? Catches him it's a smart political move And they made it I mean either either made a direct or indirect deal or just evolved

29:41 I'm going after Jeb and everybody else. You go after Rubio and everybody else, we don't touch each other... And we draw no blood! And it worked! Now i think that's possible. I think it is too. I don't know if they actually sat around and discussed this but- They did have a meeting. They did have a meeting They did. It's quite possible that they've said, you know, you don't say anything about me and of course then there was a gaffe because apparently Cruz said something bad about it not really bad he just said he didn't think Trump would be trustworthy with the bomb And it was a private meeting and then he weaseled out of it on the debates when they confronted him. But Trump and Cruz had a meeting after that video came out, before the debate? Oh okay probably in how to deal with at the debates because it would come out now I have to say after watching these debates over and over again...and then you hear about Cruz's background there is lot

30:38 nasty articles about him floating around that have been planted. But one of the things that keeps cropping up is that he is a master debater... Yeah, masturbator. And master debater and so he likes to show his chops once in awhile and I like it when he goes into debate mode. He would be very deadly on one-on-one. Oh yeah! I mean, I think he could take pretty much anybody because he's so good at it. So here is the definitive clip of Cruz and his That goes from topic to topic and he's really good at hanging onto the podium for a long time. But wait, what he does here is have a bunch of debate points. He talks about one thing then he goes over his debate points that he wanted to talk about hoping God somehow could but never gets the opportunity so hell with it! He just going do it now. The fight against radical Islamic terrorists and ISIS has been called

31:39 the war of our time. So let's talk about how each of you, as commander-in-chief would fight this war and win it Senator Cruz You have said you would quote carpet bomb ISIS into oblivion testing whether quote sand can glow in the dark Does that... He was smiling. That was kind of weird when, when that you know see if sand can glow in the dark Cruz with this crazy smile and it's like yeah he had a winner with that one I said that. I mean leveling the ISIS capital of Raqqa in Syria where there are hundreds of thousands of civilians. What it means is using overwhelming air power to utterly

32:19 utterly and completely destroy ISIS. To put things in perspective, in the first Persian Gulf War we launched roughly 1100 air attacks a day. We carpet bombed them for 37 days saturation bombing after which our troops went in and in a day-and-a-half mopped up what was left of the Iraqi army. Right now Obama is launching between 15 and 30 air attacks a day, it is photo op foreign policy we need to use overwhelming air power we need to be arming the Kurds we need to be fighting and killing ISIS where they are and let me go back to the earlier discussion a minute ago

32:54 It's not a lack of competence that is preventing the Obama administration from stopping these attacks. It is political correctness. We didn't monitor the Facebook posting of the female San Bernardino terrorist because the Obama DHS thought it would be inappropriate, she made a public call to jihad and they didn't target it. The Czarna brothers, the elder brother made a public call to jihad and the Obama administration didn't target it. Nidal Hassan communicated with Anwar al-Awlaki, a known radical cleric asked about waging jihad against his fellow soldiers The problem is because of political correctness the Obama administration like a lot of folks here want

33:37 to search everyone's cell phones and emails and not focus on the bad guys, and political correctness is killing people. Thank you! Yayyyy! Now so he threw that in a couple of things to note with Exposition 1 He used the stats that RT exposed Yes About the number of sortes Which we brought up on this show over a month ago Yeah You know, comparing the Iraq war with what Obama's up to. And then the other thing is when he goes into his little thing about political correctness which I personally thought was kind of weak and it kind of played to people that are anti-politically correct as

34:17 Which is few in the audience, but nobody chimed up with a clap or anything But what if he had kept up the logic of what? He was doing in his debate like form when he's naming name names and numbers names and number so he's saying on your brothers a per day call for jihad If he would have said at the end, which he doesn't want to do. Which is what we do on this show. Which is why are we collecting all this data and when these guys are right out there and they're doing this calling for jihad? We don't follow them, we don't care! It's because the point of all the data collection is for blackmail It's not for stopping any kind of terrorist threat, because I think the people in charge that are grinding through all this data they know that there is...this is a minor issue in this country. We have an event you know some guy goes and shoots up a meeting of his fellow employees who work in the health department and that's like it! That's like an event. This is no different than guys going postal some years back

35:18 Before we had all this terrorism thing, it was the same thing. Somebody's... Why doesn't that happen anymore? What happened? I think they put gun detectors or something at the buildings. I have no idea. No! That's not true. That's okay well then maybe it's not reported as much because another post office guy shot his nose. Yeah and we had such a you know even had a term for going postal which I think is still used. It should now be going ISIS No one's going to ISIS, they're going postal still. I'm going full ISIS baby! You sure you're not going ISIL? Do you want to take a little detour and talk about the ability of law enforcement and or willingness to look at social media accounts of those applying for visas

36:10 Well, I think it fits into the scheme of things and is a good break. Go! When Tashfeen Malik came to the United States for the first time last year she had already sent extensive messages online that she wanted to wage violent jihad. Violent? But none of that was known to the officials handling her fiancé visa During that time period immigration officials were not allowed to use or view social media as a part of the screening process. Former Homeland Security official John Cohen, now an ABC News consultant says there was a secret policy that prevented officials from screening the social media posts of visa applicants fearing bad public relations for the Obama administration. The primary concern was that it really do you really

36:54 I mean, that's quite a statement from ABC no less. Things is ABC. Well don't forget ABC is the Jeb Bush network. Of course because to say that is saying that the Obama administration chose optics over security, which is impeachable I guess. Fearing bad public relations for the Obama administration The primary concern was that it would be viewed negatively if it was disclosed publicly and there were concerns that would be embarrassing Malik who had become radicalized after college had three interviews showed pictures of an engagement party in Saudi Arabia And her visa was approved in three weeks A process the State Department admitted today failed.

37:55 Things went wrong. Now in the wake of... I saw that! Obviously, things went wrong. Things went wrong. Obviously things were wrong The worst terror attack since 9-11 Federal agents are reconstructing the online history of Malik and her husband Syed Farooq A history that shows even before they met, they were on the road to jihad. Something authorities could have known but did not. Come on down, ease on down, ease on down the road to jihad! As she was welcomed into America And Brian Ross back with us tonight. You've learned the White House now ordering a top-to-bottom review? That's right, David and the review will include that policy that was secret until today preventing officials from examining the social media posts of visa applicants some 41 thousand people came into this country last year on so called fiance visas So I went looking for the clip where Kirby said... Obviously things went wrong! ...and he had a little more to say

38:53 during his briefing. Given the prominence of social media in current discourse, and given that corporations will look at somebody's Facebook page to the extent that they can and so on why not do it systematically? Well I mean... The process is under review And That's a piece of this process that you can safely assume we'll be looking at going forward So I don't want to rule out the fact that there may be changes coming down the pike here with respect to social media.

39:30 Hither to the practice has been that wait a minute. So he says there may be New rules coming down the pike I guess Pike Pike and then he says hitherto Which i think means up until now There too rule out the fact that there maybe there maybe changes coming coming down the pike here with respect To social media Hitherto the practice has been that you want to complete a picture of this individual as possible. And so, that's one element that you can maybe gain some context But it is, as I said a fact that many people put privacy settings in place that make that effort immaterial. Oh its so hard because you can't call Facebook! I think what they should have said...I think they made a huge mistake here and I think I can kind of figure out what was really going on having worked at the government agency Yes And here's what I think happened and here's what I think they should've done and I think Kirby's an idiot Obviously things went wrong

40:29 First of all, I said this was never an official policy because it was a secret policy is what they say. It was never an official policy. The first thing you say at the press conferences...well, I don't know but there was never an official policy not to look into this. There was never an official policy. So you say that because it was never an official policy. The reason it wasn't a policy at all is because they're douchebags that work in these agencies and I know middle management levels go like this. You know we can get a lot more information. We go on their Facebook pages boss all right Let me let me be the let me you okay? You'll be the guy hey Hey, you're the guy that wants to go look in this face watch it watch it watch it watch it both about yeah Yeah, we doing and will you you could really get a lot more information if we hold my second boss boss Can I have a instead of a patch oh

41:20 for DHS can I have a shield? Can i have a real badge? We already had taken care of that. What do you want? I don't... Boss, boss! I think today if we could look at the Facebook and the Twitters then maybe we could learn more about what they're doing some social networks who are going to get their social graph the social graph boss Yeah, okay. I know what you're up to wait You know you're not here to spend all day on Facebook I'm gonna be looking at Facebook all day Get back your cubicle yes and go back to work and do what you're supposed to do We're not going to turn everybody into a bunch of people spending all

41:58 All day on Facebook looking around. Yes sir, yes sir. Sir? Sir one more thing! Sir? Sir? Yeah what? Hail Apple. Yeah hail apple That's the reason I got it. They didn't want him on Facebook Dicking around all day well, let me maybe they're on flickr go there You'll never get anything done boss. I think I think I found something on x hamster calm Should be looking there at X Hamster calm yeah? Yeah, you know exactly what would happen You know a crew decided no crews crews has a secret weapon though

42:37 And people, you're going to see they're going to start going after her now. Just watch Heidi, Heidi Cruz. What's wrong with Heidi Cruz? Oh, Heidi Cruz is she's the one that's running the money train and then she's Goldman Sachs. She's very comfortable with talking to big donors which Cruz does have a few I think they're gonna go after her Who's they? The press. They'll go after, to get the crews they're going to go after Heidi it's time. You think so? Yeah oh yeah of course. We'll have to follow her see what's going on. She is smart pretty and she suspended her job at Goldman to work on the campaign and you know she's very much at ease and of course she's a good balance

43:25 for the religious nuttiness that Cruz sometimes portrays when he starts talking like a preacher and... It's just, it's killer. Although that might bring some people out of the woodwork to vote for him I just find it kind of...I mean I admire the guy first debating skills but I do not... He is a master debater. He's a master debater. Master debater? He just has that, it doesn't have a look that I like. It's got a greasy thing. I agree! And he's a sleazeball I mean, I hate to be this kind of appearance bigot. He has the kind of face... Yes and it's okay because i'll jump in he has the kind of face and yeah I don't kiss men but I can't believe any woman want to kiss him those lips are all like thin and squiggly like sometimes yes that you know we're the only show that probably does exhibit appearance bigotry because we often act like tv executives

44:24 No, I am acting like a TV executive. The problem is... We actually are executives in media because we're both producing the show and with different people that help us. And we've done television production. We know how this works and the problem is you got to remember to stop when you're talking to your family. Right! Baby baby those shoes look like shit no not those, those shoes. You need to package it Packaging is everything. Yeah, otherwise yeah your butt looks fat All right No, the butt is never a fat ever No I'm saying you're gonna be if it is if you're an executive and you're judging people that yes Who's read? I'll tell you the Carolyn help from behind the desk did we ever have to look at that big ass Here's a story always gonna be on this go okay. We here's a story. I do not think I've told on the show

45:21 Carolyn Heldman. Does anybody remember her? Carolyn Heldman? Yeah, she was on MTV the same time I was she was supposed to be the earthy girl next door She was from Aspen in fact now she's back in Aspen and she is running the NPR station in Aspen And she kept wearing shorts, you know. Fashionably this is kind of late 80s where you could wear these... You know guys had MC Hammer pants and she had like MC Hammer print on the shorts but they were... More MC Hammer pants! Let me just continue. And I remember that, you know there was this...I won't say who but so we came into the control room and it's like stop, we have to get her a change out of those. Her thighs are just...like I can't look at her thighs that has to stop and it became a whole issue and she said no! I'm not going to wear long pants that this is what I'm wearing today and I'm supposed to be the girl next door which I am so deal with it

46:17 Fired. Fired for her thighs, fired for Thass. Mm-hmm yeah. Yeah and on the spot? She never came back after that day on the set I was on the spot on this well it was not fired on the set on the spot but she never came back so it happened then yeah yeah and of course these days oh you can't imagine that no way there would be a huge lawsuit Well they do it...well did..I don't know you think so Nah, probably not. People would like to keep their chances alive. That's why you see very few people that even got ripped off like James Garner

46:59 Who ended up suing the studios for not paying him for when he was doing that private detective show He never got his money, so we sued him and he never worked again. That's right You do not sue the networks because you will never work it unless you don't want to work in that business If you don't want to work in he was retired So Carolyn of course yes she got exactly what she is now being radio. It's exactly where your thighs belong It's a horrible business. It is, it is! And I hope people understand that we reflect it. Oops... But we don't do it as horrible people We reflect when we make these horrible comments about Ted Cruz's lips for example but they are pretty creepy he's got a creepy quality about him

47:46 But, you know. I would love to see him one-on-one debate with Hillary. Yeah. Say neither of them get the nomination...I would still like to see that! That would be good TV. A special just to have the two of them go at it. Don't ya think? Sure. Alright do you want to finish it up? You got a few more clips here too? Where am I? Because that's really all i got. I'm, uh...I was done Okay we got the Bush not qualified you played that Uh And you realize that the democratic debate is this Saturday night did you even know this Yes I did Yeah most people don't They're really keeping this quiet Sunday is just universe and I'm wondering whether or not I should cover it Are you kidding me?! Yeah You need to cover Sunday Why

48:42 Miss Universe? They don't have the dumb chicks or anything. It's not like you're getting anybody to ridicule, it's just a bunch of beautiful women... Well they'll have the questions! Do they really have questions? John this is your beat! Okay I'll cover the end of it. I know its rough but I think you should do it. First you get to see all and then Miss Universe is a Trump thing so it's..I don't even know if it's going to be on television, hope it is but whatever the case and I said that meaning It's like they're all beautiful women from around the world. They're very well chosen and it's like dynamite knockouts everyone I'm need could be throw a dart and who is everyone that hits today should be in Miss Universe So that's that part is meaningless so you don't even bother with that part of the show Then they get to the question then the questions for the miss universe contest because nobody speaks English Are extremely lame

49:34 Do you speak English? I guess. Well, that could be entertaining is the world coming to do you think we should stop ISIS John some John listen Sometimes, you know we wind up watching C-SPAN for three and a half hours and it's a complete dud. You know at least she left pretty girls! Most of the time... Most of the time it's a dud I agree. Okay let's go back to that. Yes please please Now this is short little clip this came out of one of Carly's tirades again she obviously got another round of Botox or something She couldn't smile for the life of her Hold on now stop stop

50:14 Now, I don't know... is no one looking at her? Because her lower lip. Her lipstick! It is important that we discuss this. I don't know why but I have a feeling it's important She draws her lips with her lipstick in the manner that they are not shaped And I think she had filler in her lip. Believe me, Patricia...I've seen what this looks like you wind up after 20 years of fillers in your lips like you got these bumps and it's disgusting looking. Why do women do that? I don't know! It's sad. It's really sad. You know Botox? Do whatever you want but the long-term effects in the lips results in bumps. Bumpy lips. Yeah but it's just bumpy.

51:03 And kind of hanging. I think there's also no, she has no feelings so it's kinda hanging down And then up to the first break, she had pretty much bit all of her lipstick except for the face. It was all bitten off on her lower lip it was really creepy and they came back after break and there was no change is known looking at this woman does she have no one helping? That brings up another point so Chris Christie who's a big man he's out there in his tie is so far off stairs yes under his jacket Who is running this show They go to break. I saw it said the same thing, they go to break, they come back his tie is still off center. Why didn't one of his own people go running on stage? No matter what you're not stopping me and going on this station then go up and adjust this time for him because he obviously didn't know it was way off. Yeah. And that's just these are just production items people, just production items. All right. Carly Oh yes yeah I know what this is This was good What was it though play

52:03 The iPhone was invented in 2007. The iPad was invented in 2011 Snapchat and Twitter all the rest of it have been around just for several years No, no Twitter's been around for 10 years Ten years people know it's what if you start that clip over then you hear a cough Yeah, and then you hear another throughout the whole debate somebody's coughing into the mic. Hmm. Yeah Oh no someone was snorting I thought I was doing that yeah, I'm snorting and Coughing yes who was it who was ah?

52:39 Because at the end, one of the postmortems they had Dana Bash came out and Donna, Donna Bash. And they asked her she says she followed this. She said yeah everyone thought I was people up with a question or somebody's coffee it was Ben Carson the whole time! And while we're talking about the way people look, Dana Bash Left profile she should never be shot differently that is she looks beautiful From a left profile of her face. She really is in the classic, but you turn around to the front of that face and oh yeah alien I thought you'd like her. She looks like a gray so So I feel that production did a good job on putting her on screen because she looked really great from that angle

53:27 The iPhone was invented in 2007. The iPad was invented in 2011. Snapchat and Twitter, all the rest of it have been around just for several years. Technology has moved on and the terrorists have moved on with it. Let me tell you a story soon after 9-11 I got a phone call from the NSA they needed help. I gave them help. I stopped at truckload of equipment I had it turned around. It was escorted by the NSA into headquarters, we need the private sector's help because government is not innovating technology is running ahead by leaps and bounds The private sector will help just as I helped after 9-11 but they must be engaged and they must be asked. I will ask them. I know them

54:15 Yeah, that was strange because I don't know if she was talking about turning a truck around that was headed over to China and needed stuff put in or there were components coming in and they needed it to be screened. Did you do anything about that? I have heard that is a non sequitur It has nothing to do with what she was talking about as out of the blue anecdote that had nothing to do with what she was saying. And I was completely baffled by it, it was like what is she trying to communicate here? That's she tight with the NSA? I think that was it yeah but...that she's a patriot. She cooperated... Something of a spook! Well yes, that she has very high security clearance. She is saying with this that we need to have

55:00 The internet cyber sharing agreement between government and the indemnified commercial sector needs to happen because she did it, and I guess she saved the world. She did? She saved the world? Saved the world! So they sent it right back and sent it right to the HQ. So they drove the truck across the country, I mean she's in Palo Alto or Mountain View one of these little towns down here that's where HP is and they turned the truck around turned it around and drove it then the NSA took it over through an NSA truck driver into it and they drove it off. This tells me this is just like more interesting than

55:43 than anything else and it's like what happened? What was this for, what was the deal. I don't know might be a bunch yeah you might be right it was a bunch of servers or something that needed chips put in some spy on everybody. Something who knows Let's see. I don't know if i really need anything here, here is the one there's a meme this is the pre-date Jack Tapper This was where I took the ISO from but this is a jack tapper on less safe Jake tapper jake tapper well from now on he's jack jack jack tapper Trump has proposed about muslims actually makes the American people less safe and you know one of the first people that came out against Donald Trump's proposal

56:24 was vice president dick cheney who i think very few people would consider to be a bleeding heart liberal uh this was a guy who wasn't famous yeah he's big war criminal of enhanced interrogation techniques to keep americans safe But he said it went against everything that the American Republic stands for. And very conservative national security experts that I know say this actually would make us less safe and the question is, is anybody on that stage going to embrace that? Is a Chris Christie, is a Marco Rubio, is a Jeb Bush, is a Ted Cruz going to say what you are proposing Look, I oppose everything that Obama's doing and i think he is feckless. What you are proposing is the same thing on the other side. And Ted Cruz has certainly wanted to try to pick up any Donald Trump supporters who decide to leave Donald Trump

57:11 Jack the Tap. Now, here's the question now I this blather by Trump about oh or block all Muslims from coming in is like not even possible for one thing they don't check that makes it tough but let's say that he lets say you stopped all immigration... It's very John hold stop is very easy this is very easy to do this very easy and here's the Trump methodology Do you know the ink spot test? What's it called? The Roe shark. Roe shark, Roe shark, Roe sharks, sharks, sharks, yeah the ink blot. So you do a couple so you say okay we need to just say the first thing that comes to mind maybe show a couple of these ink blots but then you show one like a cartoon of Mohammed and his bear ass with a broomstick or whatever. Charlie Hebdo cover. Yeah, Charlie Hebdo cover and then you watch for their response. Death To America! Just slide right in there see what happens. Okay well that's beside the point

58:10 The question on my mind is the meme. How? And I'm not talking about doing it or not doing it, I'm talking about how specifically does keeping anybody out make America less safe Cheney says it'll make us less safe. Oh, no security guys say I'll make us less safe how tell me exactly what are they talking about? Because you are now I'm just parroting one of the message I'm hearing by even saying this you are strengthening Isis because they feel vindicated in their success It's total horse crap

58:51 It means nothing. Maybe I should go to this quick little clip because... But before you go there, why then did you bring the creepiest guy in the world Dick Cheney to back them up? What is wrong with this picture? They'll do anything to show that Donald Trump is unwanted and I think the point is very clear if even vampire man war criminal Dick Cheney doesn't like your policy You're above everybody else in crazy a-hole land That's the message. And this message is coming very clearly from, and it's mind-boggling because it started with Muhammad the clockboy and since then every single time Trump comes out the go to people are the Council on American Islamic Relations

59:39 Who without doubt were at one point and they admitted connected to the Muslim Brotherhood? Yes, there's no in fact Yeah They work and they were never convicted but they were proven to be a front for a terrorist financing But now they're everywhere you got to kind of get your mindset into the guys accent. But here's what their say Muslim leaders Say Trump's recent plan to temporarily ban Muslims from the United States as part of a continued effort To demonize their faith this threat wreck echoes the policies enacted by Nazi Germany against the Jews. Yes, rhetoric is like killing Jews! Trump's and Carson's mainstreaming of Islamophobia in the election is inciting real discrimination. Now first of all let's just talk about anything phobia I do not believe there is a they either one of them has

1:00:33 an insane fear. Actually, phobia is irrational fear. Stop it, it's annoying! I have felt this by all of...I don't think homophobia is another word. Well the phobia... Fear of gays? Like oh my god what am I gonna do?! No John, it actually means irrational fear. Yeah, an irrational fear like the fear of heights, the fear of spiders, arachnophobia all these phobias so I mean hating Muslims is hating, it's hate. It's not phobia. They call it hating but you seem to have more strength. He's a Muslim hater not Islamophobic

1:01:15 I think it would be stronger to say Muslim hater in terms of making your point, which is Donald Trump is a Muslim hater as opposed to Donald Trump is Islamophobic. Which has been softened by the use of homophobic. is inciting real discrimination, real hate crimes. Nihar Awad called out not only Trump and GOP candidate Ben Carson for his claim a Muslim should not be president but also New Jersey Governor and GOP candidate Chris Christie I think many Muslims in New Jersey feel sense of betrayal for what the governor Christie

1:01:56 Why betrayal? Many New Jersey Muslims thought Christie was an ally. But now disappointment over this comment from Christie about Syrian refugees. I don't think orphans under five should be admitted into the United States In a Republican primary campaign, Muslim bashing seems to be the red meat that the candidates are throwing at some of their supporters Yes! Muslim bashing is the red meat It's indeed it No, it's just narrative. Well I'd like to know who is responsible for CARE getting so much airtime? They've hired one of the top PR firms there's no doubt in my mind. Who are you getting airtime from? CARE. Oh yeah, CARE! Yeah they're the go-to now for everything. And there's other Islamic groups that are very moderate and have a lot to say and they have top people, top men working for them that can come on these shows but no, they never ask them its always CARE

1:02:53 It's got to be galling. I think the moderate Muslim community, which is huge... They say wait a minute we don't put us on ever? We bitch and moan we check our websites out we complain as much as the next guy and it just marginalized them! We've noted this on the show before Why are the Muslims not complaining?! They're complaining! It's just weird aren't listening Norman Lear Has announced and she's this Hollywood reporter Hollywood's elder statesman says his group People for the American Way will launch a major initiative aimed at combating hate speech from Trump and other GOP presidential candidates, which I think is probably already underway. But this is relevant because the Lear Foundation as we've discussed many times are directly responsible for storylines in Hollywood.

1:03:54 Let me help you with that story. Yeah, I was thinking maybe we should play the uh... Here it is. Yes, please play that this is Martin Kaplan from the Lear Foundation So in the course of our work this is a In two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on Have been aired we've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows Yeah So that's what they do. So that will be infused in all of your mainstream entertainment enjoyment. And, of course the CIA and the NSA and these guys do the same thing but they don't have the effect... These guys are really getting a lot of work done. There is more though! A New Yorker had I guess a humorous article titled to those fleeing President Trump welcome to Canada

1:04:53 And so they're pretending as if this article is in the future, as if Donald Trump was elected president. So here's Canada saying things like... We'd like to extend an extra special welcome to the ethnic, religious and other groups that President Trump has deported from the United States. Muslims, Mexicans, black people, people who look like Muslims, Jews who are just Muslims with smaller hats, Prius drivers, that one Asian guy Jessica Alba maybe she's a Muslim, who knows? All women and books! And it just gets worse from there. That's hate speech. It is not bigoted.

1:05:37 And then, yeah you get like BuzzFeed headline Trump campaign rally erupts in chaos and ugly confrontation. I saw the whole thing it wasn't a chaos and ugly ugly confrontation it was a heckler whatever. Yeah if we say heckler they have that in comedy clubs. Yeah and-and we know that... You know you bring this stuff up to like uh normal roaming around and you get this response these people aren't show people or no agenda show people What, are you voting for Trump? No it's better than that. I love it when journalists say...

1:06:13 You know Trump really has a good point now of course I would never vote for him, but Trump has a good This is what they always do But I would never vote for him. Yeah you have to do why did I? Why do you even have to say that don't give a shit who you vote for no, but that's that's to Maintain their integrity in the mainstream media otherwise well you were pretty positive about Trump there man none They're voting for Hillary all right Are you done with that? I didn't get a clip of this, but i'll tell you there was a... I should have. No, I didn't. There was a special on what's going to happen at the Republican National Convention which is they don't think that because of the way they're changing and the way the votes are counted so if Trump comes into California and he wins let's say 60% of the vote

1:07:06 He only gets 60 delegates, it's not winner-take all. So 40 go to somebody else or 20 go to somebody else and 10 go and Jeb Bush gets his three... Now maybe we should back up a second I have been wanting to ask you this because there are all these talks about they're going to rig the primary of the Harvard Brokered Convention just in brief terms can explain Let's say Donald Trump has a clear majority, 70% of all Republicans want to vote for him. But how could they rig that so that he would not be the nominee? If he had 70% of the delegates. It's all about delegates, right? Just explain it people don't really understand Yeah I guess a lot of people wouldn't get this This is kind of just an awkward situation we have and it used to be done in the olden days behind closed doors And people would do deals and there was condemned... The condemnation began when I was a kid because I remember all this

1:08:02 And they said, oh yeah this is his cigar. It was a smoke-filled room! The smoke filled room and then they would have... They came out and they were gonna elect John Kennedy because he was a Picked in the smoke-filled room, we have to have direct primaries and all the states have to do this. Iowa actually doesn't...it still has the smoke filled room that's called the caucuses but disregarding that state and a few others most of them have these primaries which cost the taxpayers of the state millions of dollars but they'd do them anyway because who cares? And so you go in and you vote for the candidate of your choice, and then it goes to the... they have like a state convention. And then they divvy up the votes which go to the national convention which then elects the guy who's going to be the nominee. It's a complicated process but it is based on popular vote.

1:08:53 So, what can happen is that because of the way they've been jiggering with this. The popular vote if Trump does not win enough of the primaries to get a clear majority of attendees, representatives of the delegates. I'm sorry that's the word... Yeah i'm a bit confused If he doesn't get them right number of delegates to lock it down because the delegates have to depending on their state convention they have these rules so if I am in California and Donald Trump runs for

1:09:30 the primaries to run, to get the delegates to represent him in the national convention. I'm pledged to Trump and i have to vote for trump at least through one or two ballots sometimes usually maybe just one and if he doesn't win because there's not enough people pledged to him Then they can go in to start. Okay, you get into an argument mode right and they go from place the place Hey John You know your I know your pledge to Trump And but now you uh? You don't even vote for anybody and he's not gonna win so once you've come with us To the cruise group if you'd and then another day am Rubio's buddy a John you know how much ruby oh hey you see her over there

1:10:13 Yeah, she's yours. Go for Rubio! So then it becomes a mess and it can go there's been historical conventions where it goes like 100 ballots or something keeps going until somebody finally gets tired and flips their vote And that can...and that's what they're hoping for because they figure they can't really stop Trump at this point although I disagree with that I think he can still be stopped But they can't stop him, they don't feel it. So they're hoping to God he doesn't get the clear majority of committed delegates because then it goes wide open and that's how Bush can get in at the last minute too by the way because once it goes wide open you could vote for anybody. Well ultimately I think it would be... Was that explanation just horrible? It was okay pretty... No, I think the result of what you explained makes sense

1:11:06 It's actually pretty simple, but I made it sound more complicated than it is. Good work! It was simple and I screwed it up. Here's what I know the President of the United States you know he has to blew up a sex scandal with the 7 of 9 lady, Jerry Ryan that pretty much gave him the win and he steamrolled through. A one-time senator in the state of Illinois and then his president. So you know... Somebody fast tracked it. It was fast tracked yes but to say that Donald Trump has as a president all this power well no not really just really don't. Congress has the power

1:12:02 The Congress has power of the purse strings, you got Senate. But the system... Why not get a good sales guy in there? I'm not... Fuck it! I am saying pleading for Donald Trump. He'll be good for us to see what happens when you put an American in that spot. What's the worst that could happen? Well, he could become president. What is the worst that could happen? Seriously, how much worse off can we get? No you can't. Okay You could put anybody in anyone Now I just wanted to make this point before I don't make it which is about the doubt they've been playing a lot of these stories about how the Brokered convention can take place where everything falls apart right and then there you start doing deals And then next thing you know George Bush is running or not George Jeb Jeb Yeah, but I think that these stories are all just

1:12:51 a misdirection prelude to a Democrat convention where this does happen. Oh, good point! So when Elizabeth Warren can get in... Oh hey okay but I'm gonna leave everybody with that thought that's a good way to end this the A block and before we get into our B block it happens every year once again the big native ad returns If you didn't hear it last year, it's a complete repeat. I started crying right away on the phone because i was actually going to have to cancel my lightweight. I had a very rough week that makes, that makes my weak. Thank you for whoever you are Merry Christmas and Happy New Year thank you very much

1:13:51 Doesn't that just get you in the feels? Yeah. So what happened was this Santa B, as he likes to call himself walked into a Walmart in Pennsylvania paid off the remaining balances on people's layaway costs something that totaled $79,000 were told two to 300 people were the direct beneficiaries of this it's not the first time he's done it too He's done it before. He wants to stay anonymous which makes an even more more beautiful Christmas wish. How about that? Yeah, how about that? They do this every year! Every year like go shopping at Walmart you never know the anonymous guy sent to be and maybe you get lucky yeah maybe you gambling to go shopping it's amazing but he does it every year even wants to be anonymous please what a bullcrap story And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage in saying good morning to you John C

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1:15:41 We'd like to thank a number of those who have become executive producers and associate executive producers for today's program. Well, we have two executives and two associates today which is a low number but the amount of money they produced as executive producers was $1,000 for Anonymous in New York plus 500 bucks from Sir Black Ball of Twit Kevin Bay Let's start with a note from anonymous in New York $1,000. He doesn't want to be called an instant night he thinks it's demeaning Not exactly sure what what? Why first I'd like to thank you Adam for your recent legal advice quote-unquote and if you feel left out John I would It is very vague but no I can explain that

1:16:25 And I know who it is now because he emailed me and said, what is that phrase that you put into contracts? That the without prejudice. Exactly! And that's why email to thank you. And if you feel left out John, I would like to thank you for all your financial advice without prejudice in case you're wondering Adam The day you returned my email, faster than any lawyers. You helped me to find peace of mind in a time of turmoil. You instantly went from just being voices to being real people. I truly appreciate your weekly podcast, twice weekly. And all you do therefore please find a check in Close for Services rendered. This value transaction... My legal fee! ...I would like to be considered on silent night. Oh that's nice. ...is required during the show and I do not wish to have a ring

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1:21:00 Ask away, my friend. Ask away! And that asks you a question... This Bo Bergdahl thing... Bo Bergdahl? Bo Bergdahl thing Now I kind of was like not following it and was like whatever i really don't care You know and I kind of remember where we didn't know if he was a deserter or If uh you know if he was really captured or what's going on and so now apparently there is a court-martial in process Right, and it's so high up of course. Well actually I'll play this is Josh Ernest This is the spokeshole for the White House He speaks directly for the president as he will refer to in this clip And he can't say anything on behalf of anybody for anything He doesn't know that he does know not to do John unfortunately in this instance I'm very very limited in what I can say about this ongoing matter That this is a case that is currently working its way through the military justice process

1:21:56 And as the spokesperson for the commander in chief, there's a lot of sensitivity about the potential for influencing the outcome of that military justice proceeding. So I'm really not able to react even in most general terms to the latest twists and turns in the case. There is an established process whereby the military will both conduct this investigation and consider the results of it. And I don't want to say anything that could be perceived as influencing that process in any way, but the bottom line for this matter is that Sergeant Bergdahl was an American citizen who put on the uniform of United States military and he was rescued by the United States military. The commander-in-chief feels a responsibility to everyone who puts on the uniform

1:22:52 And the way that this, the way that Sergeant Bergdahl was rescued I think is a testament to the President's commitment to that principle. Now, you know so I'm listening to that and like wow. Of course do remember the big no man left behind we'll do anything we want to do and the more I'm hearing this change of story, the more I'm thinking maybe something else was going on but we had a number of theories I believe. No he had guys that were in his company or at least connected to him somehow send us notes before they think...the story even broke that this guy was a deserter

1:23:31 Well, I think we're talking about something even a little bit bigger than that. And so... You think he was on a mission? Yes and i will explain why with a few clips. You better be very convincing because I never got that impression. Okay! I just think it was a dingbat. Well here's what bothered me and the reason I looked into this whole Bergdahl crew little booty okay the whole reason I looked into him Because the second season of without any doubt the number one most downloaded best in the whole universe podcast Serial has started its new season and in it's new season. It is doing the Bo Bergdahl story Right and the coincidence of they just released episode number two today I have not heard it now, I don't listen to serial but I am now And I listened to the opening episode the first one

1:24:24 And the coincidence of this court martial taking place with the release of The Serial podcast got me interested. And here's what I picked out... Now, I will say this which is a performative. Yeah. I knew that this was...I knew this too. I knew that Serial decided to do the Berg... The serial is a long exposé, it's like a long news story the way I see it. And they're going to do Bo Bergdahl for some reason? I did not pick up on any of this nefarious thing! completely. I'm glad you... And then, and i will tell you, I was ready to ignore it! I was doing a good job ignoring it but my no agenda spidey sense tickled me and said look into it Adam, look into it so I did what apparently hundreds of millions of people around the universe do. I listened to the serial podcast and here's the first bit I thought was relevant to my suspicion

1:25:24 Mark Ball is a screenwriter and producer. You've probably heard of his movies, The Hurt Locker, Zero Dark Thirty... Mark wanted to make a movie about Bo's story so a couple of months after Bo came back to the U.S., Mark managed to contact him and they started talking about everything—about the Taliban and motorcycles and existence of God and how good spicy salsa is and how memory works and what a soldier should and shouldn't be Mark recorded the calls, not for broadcast or anything. Which is why you sometimes hear Mark making himself a snack... Or the swoosh of Mark sending an email…or his dog scuffling around… Now before I continue with this

1:26:08 So this was a bit of a disappointment because I the way it was positioned everything. I'd read about it It's like oh they have Bergdahl, they've interviewed him and they're gonna do this whole long You know, I don't know how many episodes they do of The Serial Podcast but they'll have Bergdahl in his own words And I found that to be fascinating. Turns out they do not have Bergdahl, they have this recording that the known collaborator with the CIA, this director these two movies come on we have dissected and deconstructed who is running these movies? These movies are meant to create an official story of what happened

1:26:44 This is the official story of, you know, the Hurt Locker. It's the official way that many, many service men and women have contacted us saying total bullcrap. And then, of course, Zero Dark Thirty, the official story of how we got Osama bin Laden. I'm like OK, that's a disappointment but it got better! It's roughly 25 hours of recorded conversations, a lot of it rangy and raw. Their rapport is sort of unexpected — Mark swears a lot he can be blunt while Bo the soldier comes off as the softer one his go-to expletive is good grief for this story we've teamed up with mark and his production company page one they'd come to us saying hey we've been doing all this reporting on the story and we've also got this tape do you think you might want to listen okay so here we are we're looking for season two

1:27:32 And this guy comes along, famous for his work. Hey you know we got a story you know maybe...we got this tape you know? Maybe it would be kind of cool if you know we could team up and work together! You guys are independent your podcast is hip and I mean we could get the real narrative out there. Wouldn't it be cool to do like a whole series?" And yes we did and we were kinda blown away so he began working with them Aha, working with them. They shared their research with us Oh! Their research? Okay here's our research take it as true And also put us in touch with many of their sources Oh I bet they were doozy Especially soldiers We don't have anything to do with their movie Nooo... Of course not But Mark and Page One are our partners for season two They're our partners for season 2 so this is Hold on a second stop

1:28:17 Now, now you've got my...you've done it. You've come up with the right answer to that question. This is the feeling I had. This is why we work as a team because one of us will do something like this from time-to-time. But it brings to mind since I never paid much attention to cereal, two questions come to mind. One season one was that some sort of a plant? I don't know what the story was and ever listened to cereal. There was a story about a guy that was boring Okay, so there's nothing in season one that would indicate they were intelligence agencies involved? I cannot answer that because i just didn't listen to much of it at all. So I can't answer that. Can't answer... So now beginning this the following automatic deconstruction based on our basic way of thinking

1:29:04 Is it possible that serial is designed as a throughput mechanism for intelligence agencies in this case? So my answer would be yes. And, and... Is that why you get so much publicity and all the rest because the whole thing is planted I think its feeds upon itself So there's another movie being made. We need to have an official story of what happened and when you listen to Bergdahl, the story that in this season one...the story he is retelling is that he had a plan and his plan was actually to create a they call it a dust woo? Is it dust woo? Yeah! Dust

1:29:45 No, Dust One. Dust One which is a guy's gone and whereabouts unknown and his thinking the way he's telling it on this tape that I've heard in this first episode is he wanted to create a way to show Washington and they really really higher ups that there was incredibly bad management going on in his platoon at the base. And he felt that he had no other recourse, he wanted to be a whistleblower but the way he wanted to do it is he wanted to create this big hype about him being gone then they would find him and then he would say oh you know thank god I have the stage here's what's going on but it went wrong because he messed up the way he escaped and he wound up during the daylight in the middle of the desert surrounded by

1:30:29 Taliban, and then he was captured for five years. So that is the story he wants to tell us went astray. That's the story you want it why he wants to tell now based on this next little clip from two guys who were with him and who were who discovered him gone they were always uh... noticing that he was hanging out way too much with the local police force talking to him way too much and then this little ditty which is completely overlooked by the serial podcast. You know, he'd been showing up late to guard shifts because he was busy talking to the locals That's Josh Corder Here's Daryl Hansen His guesses were expansive

1:31:09 We're like man is he like CIA or what I mean, is he like this crazy like mole right so like What was the discussion? Yeah, like what were you guys thinking did you hear that really bad at it They put those two things after another like fools almost like mole right. So like what was the discussion yeah Like what were you guys thinking that's a we didn't have to give away very poorly done Let's just go back and wait here that would they say there again home oh Yeah, that's what we were just thinking like I mean those are the things like it was either like this guy is a complete lunatic or Is he likes CIA? Like we're trying to like we couldn't figure it out. No yeah because those are pretty much your options And I know how guys are signaling this guy's a spook What's he doing in our platoon so but I can only conclude that This wasn't an extraction and it went wrong

1:31:59 And now they're trying to build up some story for some reason because people died during the extraction. People died searching for him and that's bad optics I believe it was a CIA extraction, and it was never supposed to have this big media coverage... ...and the president was never supposed to say we'll get every last guy! He took that to show him as a strong leader and we support our troops But then he messed up the whole quiet nature of it being a CIA extraction. And when you think about Bergdahl being there for five years, yeah, it's very possible he had some good intel. All right. Well I mean that's an interesting thesis. It is a screwy situation because first she got this dad who learned out-of-the blue decided to learn Arabic

1:32:51 and grow a Taliban beard, and then meet with the president on his porch. How does that come about? That's never happened with anybody else! I mean maybe the old man is a spook. It could be. He was in Langley at the time so he decided to stop by although i find this incredible personally it's a nice story as a spook story It's got, I think it's a cool story. I really just find it ridiculous though this guy seems like a dope and the old man seems like a bull...

1:33:30 lunatic of some sort. You know, I wouldn't have had that much of an issue with it if it wasn't that Serial was approached by these guys, approached by the film company... Yeah, and then I see the same red flag! And you know, Serial is like- I can just see the guys going we really need to get this going, we need this go viral. I KNOW! Don't forget... Remember? I don't care if you forget or not So I can say don't forget because i don't care. But note All the media, all the podcast stories. Oh Serial! Serial! Serial! Which you brought up right at the beginning It was why hasn't Serial done anything? They haven't done a season two they're never gonna get there no good one trick pony and it was a lot of complaining about this and so This is the opportunity as you point out for somebody to come along and give them a story already prepared Because that's the way it's done Just look at a Bob Woodward book

1:34:28 And here you go. You can put your name on it, we got nothing to do with it... Just take it! It's pot yeah that makes sense because they were under the gun the cereal people yes all right so what do you think they're gonna give us? The real story is going to be this just although the whole story and destroy that we're gonna hear on cereal is just bullcrap?! It'll be the story that the movie is it will be the same as the movie It'll be that story. It's their sources, they're notes, they're research... Yeah! It's actually great all these guys have to do is just bake it into a story. Why did they have to bake it into anything? Why didn't they just drop it?!

1:35:12 Do some trick bull crap, change his identity. Get him out of the prison if he's a spy let's assume he is a spy for the DIA or probably the DIA more No I don't think so! I think it was CIA and the reason why the military is pissed off they were not in the loop Oh that could be That's why... then guys died people died looking for this guy So what? You're not going to bring us into the loop you're gonna tell us whats going on oh yeah watch this Yeah, yeah. That's the way that works I can't believe it and then of course we need to have the story but this guy so But why don't they even go this far to do there? Okay We got now you gotta do this story in a movie for this

1:35:51 Guy who just wandered off and got a good you know disappeared for five years And maybe we don't even know he really disappeared for five years do we obviously don't know the whole story We don't even know I they had pictures of him, and he's got you guys with the hood that could have been made anywhere He only would have been working in a bit of office in Washington DC. And then five years later put him in a truck We don't know who those people were that dropped them off. You know anything? No we don't The whole thing could be bullcrap Yes Our job is to deconstruct media. This is media, there's your deconstruction Well we'll see what happens but when guys sit around and they're suspicious of their fellow Servicemen and women if they think you're a spook the sums wrong with you this is probably a spook Yeah You're probably a spook very tight quarters You'd be gotta be you know If you really on top of each other used to get to learn how you get to know each other

1:36:44 And this guy, he was always weird. He felt like a spook couldn't be anything else you heard it right there and they just gloss over that by saying well they had some outrageous thoughts Okay anyway That was a good one we probably would have missed that completely if it wasn't for you A couple of weeks ago Sorry before you go you're changing the subject so let me change the subject Just with little entremont Entremont? That's not changing the subject that's just given something The Chef has whipped up for you Yes, it's Chef Dvorak. You know I started this thing a couple of shows ago where I think Rebel Without A Cause is the worst movie ever and I have not had a chance to take a look at it. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to keep pestering you with short snippets of the movie

1:37:31 Okay, until you get so sick of it. You're gonna have to go watch the movie now other people finally chimed in and agreed with me And then they said what but how did he get 96? You know points on Rotten Tomatoes nobody watches this movie Oh rebel worth garlic out of cause that's great movie So they checked you know this I yeah a great movies, so it gets all these numbers here's a clip Says rebel just play it teaser Hi hi wait a minute At this point it could be a Live Love Lucy episode. Hey! Fred! Hi, I've seen you before Well stop the world You don't have to be unfriendly Well now that's true But life is crushing in on me Life can be beautiful Alright, that's it? No, it keeps going Where what was Uh the rest of you don't have to play it I dunno why it keeps goin'

1:38:41 Well, that was a great entremont. Can I send it back to the kitchen? Because it tasted like poop." Well... Yes and uh the kitchen will say to you have you seen the movie yet No, I will look at the movie. I will watch this movie All right just keep coming until that happens Can I do something? That's it. It's done, that's done A few weeks ago on this program we reported the following Well the German press is describing it as a table microphone and what the table microphone picked up was Merkel sort of muffledly asking a question to Zuckerberg and then you hear Zuckerberg And its on this issue of what Facebook is going to do about monitoring policing racist xenophobic comments

1:39:18 about refugees here in Germany. It's a big issue." We hear Zuckerberg response pretty clearly on the tape, or at least people who are listening it did he said we need to do some work and then guy there is the Merkel follow-up she basically asked the same question again says but you're working on this and Zuckerberg can only say yes well yes indeed he was the announcement came two days ago from Reuters Headline Facebook, Google and Twitter agreed to delete hate speech in 24 hours in Germany. Germany said on Tuesday that Facebook, Google and Twitter have agreed to delete hate speech from the websites within 24 hours A new step in the fight against rising online racism following the refugee crisis The government has been trying to get social platforms to crack down on the rise of anti-foreigner comments In German on the web is

1:40:07 country struggles to cope with an influx of more than 1 million refugees this year. So people can't express their opinion about this then? Correct, the new agreement makes it easier for users and anti-racism groups to report hate speech to specialist teams at the three companies according to German Justice Minister Heiko Maas when the limits of free speech are trespassed When it is about criminal expression, sedition, incitement to carry out criminal offenses that threaten people such content has to be deleted from the net! Ma said. And we agree that as a rule this should be possible within 24 hours." Hey you know the Syrian jerk office pooping on my stoop- Ah sorry- Hate speech. Stop. And what's disturbing

1:40:58 is that the Washington Post even has to go so far, I guess...I don't know what they're being taught in schools but they actually have to write a whole article to explain that there is no hate speech exception in the First Amendment. And we've gotten so far down this road, yeah! They felt compelled to have to explain it And it's a pretty long article and they go into exactly, you know that so we do have one exception which is fighting words. Which is if you incite someone to lash out and fight immediately because of your direct speech there are

1:41:40 There is an exception for that, but it's also...you know these are very...the nuance is very small. But in general speech is speech all form of speech. But people somehow believe that hate speech is illegal and now you see the Washington Post trying to say hey you know what? It's really not that way which is just baffling to me And then you see this, you know Germany and be like, oh hate speech? We're gonna take it off the well not off the internet but taking it off the social media which for most people is the Internet. This is true yeah and you know disturbing but...

1:42:20 Yeah, I find the story disturbing too. But luckily we know it can't happen here. Who wrote that book again that everyone needs to see? It Can't Happen Here? Sinclair Lewis. Sinclair Lewis right. Sinclair Lewis which is one of our few Nobel Prize winning novelists was like one of the darlings of the liberal media and the liberal hoity-toity party givers especially in New York Just a fantastic icon for the left. Well, I don't know why... But he wrote that book which is pretty much about how the left

1:43:02 You know, or there's a not...everyone just caves to a situation overnight and be false. And he was excoriated kind of. And the point is it can happen here better yet it is happening here. Yeah! And the only thing that hate speech or hate crimes beget you is a tougher sentence because a crime as a crime whether there's hate involved or not but that is being used in legislation primarily California but all of the EU you're gonna see The tolerance legislation that we've covered many times. Tolerance, you know tolerance if you're not tolerant it'll be hate speech and meanwhile the elites there in Brussels and Where's the other place where they always rule from? They could never make up their minds the two places... And Twerp I don't know No no no the Brussels and the other they have dual offices Yeah it is in France somewhere isn't it? I can't come up with it It starts with an L and it's not Luxembourg No it's not Luxembourg

1:44:01 It's Liechtenstein? No, it's not Liechtenstein. I don't know. But anyway here is what they're deciding. The EU plans to treble spending on border defense as it grapples with the migrant crisis. More than 300 million euros will be plowed into a new European border and coast guard by 2020 under plans officially unveiled in Strasbourg. If governments approve it, the body would replace the existing front... Start with an L. Told you to start with an L! Strasbourg. Yeah, that's the other place was officially unveiled in Strasbourg if governments approve it The body would replace the existing Frontex agency and have expanded powers now the front X Agency for those not knowing These are the guys who were responsible and they still have a little monument and everything for the Shane agreement So the borderless collection of the EU nation states They're not being replaced

1:44:54 by a rapid response team. this new coast guard will respect human rights and second we must make sure that cooperation with third countries will not run against the legitimate interests of member states especially as far as their territorial integrity. Yeah, good luck with that Greece! Is concerned. The migration crisis has fueled demand for more coordinated control of Europe's borders with the bloc security and passport free area under threat And I was waiting for it to happen It's already been brewing but looking at the refugee crisis and what's happening in probably the most fun-loving The most open...the most free and liberal society of all the EU nation states

1:45:57 The Netherlands. Let's check in with them and how they're doing with the refugees A meeting to decide whether to build a refugee center ended in a riot in the Dutch town of Geldermalsen near Utrecht on Wednesday night Around 2,000 people surrounded the venue where the Town Council was discussing the matter According to social media several arrests were made although no injuries were reported Eventually, councillors were evacuated when youths forced their way into the building. It's the biggest display of anti-migrant sentiment in The Netherlands since hooligans attacked a Syrian refugee centre in October. The country's deputy justice minister who oversees immigration called the incident un-Dutch. And I'll counter that by saying this is actually very Dutch

1:46:44 The Dutch, when you push them too far they go insane and they throw rocks at Molotov cocktails. They really can... You've got to be careful! There's still farmers with pitchforks underneath and they're being pushed. All right well at some point you get pushed too far. And it's happening yeah this is kind of It's no longer really discussed right now because we got other things to do. How is the gossip sheets doing with you? Anything new? I did get The Enquirer and they have Obama on the cover, you know like shh... We don't-I think it's about the secret rule not vet social media Nothing else really in the broadsheets You're in California Did you follow the closing of the school system

1:47:42 Yeah, let's listen to one of the reports on NBC. This is the LA schools total report no kidoki Second largest school district saying it received a credible threat abruptly shutting down all campuses just before the morning bell The unprecedented decision is what many woke up to breaking news of the massive massive district-wide shutdown of LAUSD schools. The threat came by email, a person claiming to be a high school senior ready with an army to attack schools with guns and bombs Los Angeles is just 65 miles from San Bernardino where 14 were killed in a terror attack less than two weeks ago

1:48:27 I think the circumstances in a neighboring San Bernardino, what has happened in the nation and internationally. I as superintendent am not going to take the chance with the life of a student." The police chief said that threat was specific to all Los Angeles schools. The specific threat was attack with assault rifles and machine pistols. While the chief stood by, the superintendent privately Los Angeles area law enforcement officials say they advised against closing schools saying the decision was premature and a bad move

1:49:08 The coordinated sweep of LA schools for bombs a massive undertaking. LAUSD spans 710 square miles with more than 1,000 campuses and 700,000 students many about to take final exams. I guess we have to live through this and live this way You know, trying to see if terrorists are going to come and get us. With school buses suddenly turned around many had nowhere to go staff and parents complained notification came too late tonight Anthony Carson has to explain to his four-year old son AJ why fear has gripped the region like now his school He doesn't know like what's going on in the world Like with what happened like you know in Paris and San Bernardino he just you know? He's just happy all the time

1:49:56 Mmm, he won't be for long. We don't want happy kids No no and I was watching you know what's the that? Jack weak walk what's that stupid app called you need to get on this app If I can tell you remind what it's called. Uh, it sounds like is that dad? Good? Yik Yak yik yak yik yak yik yak. You gotta get yik yak because why this is what the kids are using man to get yik yak and this It's a semi I guess unless yik yak gives people up which I think they do its semi anonymous And you can zoom into a school district and only get on the map in the app, and then you get the yik-yaks which are just equivalent to tweets and replies from that area. I did it on Los Angeles, and now the kids are like, I'm afraid! I live near a school... The kids are being terrorized! Terrorized!

1:50:49 I had my questions about this from the get go, obviously. Well can i play the other two clips then so we can get that out of there? Sure you got it Let's start with this part 2 Tonight law enforcement officials are still checking campuses for suspicious devices Meantime a 17 year old student was struck and killed by a truck after he was crossing an intersection It is unclear if that student was headed to or from campus Because of terrorists After school closures Kate Miguel thanks so much normal is emerging after the attack in San Bernardino. As a majority of Americans now say terrorism is their number one concern and with that as the backdrop we saw a tale of two cities today and the very different ways that New York and Los Angeles reacted when the threats came in here's our Justice Correspondent Pete Williams on how it all went down

1:49:56 Mmm, he won't be for long. We don't want happy kids No no and I was watching you know what's the that? Jack weak walk what's that stupid app called you need to get on this app If I can tell you remind what it's called. Uh, it sounds like is that dad? Good? Yik Yak yik yak yik yak yik yak. You gotta get yik yak because why this is what the kids are using man to get yik yak and this It's a semi I guess unless yik yak gives people up which I think they do its semi anonymous And you can zoom into a school district and only get on the map in the app, and then you get the yik-yaks which are just equivalent to tweets and replies from that area. I did it on Los Angeles, and now the kids are like, I'm afraid! I live near a school... The kids are being terrorized! Terrorized!

1:50:49 I had my questions about this from the get go, obviously. Well can i play the other two clips then so we can get that out of there? Sure you got it Let's start with this part 2 Tonight law enforcement officials are still checking campuses for suspicious devices Meantime a 17 year old student was struck and killed by a truck after he was crossing an intersection It is unclear if that student was headed to or from campus Because of terrorists After school closures Kate Miguel thanks so much normal is emerging after the attack in San Bernardino. As a majority of Americans now say terrorism is their number one concern and with that as the backdrop we saw a tale of two cities today and the very different ways that New York and Los Angeles reacted when the threats came in here's our Justice Correspondent Pete Williams on how it all went down

1:51:40 Children in the nation's largest public school system, in New York City headed to class today even though police said a nearly identical threat was emailed to schools there. New York's Police Commissioner who once held that same job in Los Angeles said LA overreacted That is not something we are concerned with What would be concerned with is over-reacting We will stay aware, we will stay involved but at all costs cannot start overreacting. Several law enforcement officials say the writer of both emails claimed to be a high school senior who was bullied and claimed to have an army of supporters who planted pressure cooker bombs...

1:52:18 assault rifles and pistols. The writer claimed to be a radical Muslim but made mistakes in referring to Islam, a phony threat New York authorities say they concluded because the same person could not be a student in two places at once local and federal law enforcement officials say the LA schools chief made the decision and then consulted the police who officials say recommended against closing the schools but there was a unanimous view about how serious the decision was Okay, so the inconvenience is 650 thousand kids don't go to school. This inconveniences X number of families Screws up everything you got a bank some kid gets run over by a truck So that's like the fallout they probably end up suing the school district because it's their fault. Mm-hmm This is a fiasco Well I kind of knew that there was something up when I read them when I read the email then first of all email really isn't The first thing you do is go trace the email

1:53:12 I mean how hard can that be? Well they claim, well try this. This is clip three. We can now announce the FBI has determined this is not a credible threat something we couldn't have announced earlier in the day. And I want to be very careful because that does not mean that it's conclusively one thing or another yet Some have used words that i think are probably inappropriate like hoax and other things whether its criminal mischief, whether its somebody testing vulnerabilities of multiple cities We still do not know enough to say definitively Yeah I do! Testing vulnerabilities they found out was a- It's an anonymizer service of some sort where the note came from They'll never track it But when I read the note

1:53:49 And it says, I would not be able to do it alone. Me and my 32 comrades will die tomorrow in the name of Allah. I'm like even though common core is tough 32 plus one is... That's right that's right thank you thank you for the tell Well that would imply its government Possibly Certainly FBI who's operating in their field office and actually the LA County is a pretty big FBI office there. And they were on the scene immediately, San Bernardino. I did something new because Comey came out and Comey did 15 minutes on the... He did a presser but as i'm listening to this like this guy

1:54:41 He is the metaphor maestro. He is the alliteration aficionado Every single thing that comes out of his mouth there's a metaphor for something and he loves alliteration Which is you know starting off, two words with the same meaning What is the exact definition of alliteration? Is it always starting with the same vowel or the same... It's usually consonants. Okay, rambling wreck from Reno. There you go. So instead of picking out bits and pieces from this I've decided to cut out everything except for his metaphors and alliteration And it makes just as much sense! Have a listen! I think everybody in this room knows this but its worth reminding folks

1:55:27 that your parents Al Qaeda was a very different model than the threat we face today. The primary tumor of terrorism, sophisticated multi-pronged efforts involving carefully selected operatives, long tail surveillance, careful operational security and the execution of the next big thing. That culture of core al-Qaeda to attract people to their so called caliphate, to bring fighters and their families to Iraq Syria border region they wanted people to kill where they were Not the sophisticated, airplane-focused, National Landmark focused attack. But kill anybody wherever you are." That was their twin pronged call. Their siren song. Come or Kill! Instead of the set piece videos filmed by Bin Laden or filmed by Zawahiri then delivered by a courier and then sent to Al Jazeera to be played on television

1:56:27 The threat came from ISIL through social media because they sent their twin prong message of come or kill out through the chaotic spider web, especially of Twitter. It went out through this chaotic spider web and it arrived in your pocket Come or kill. And if you want to talk to a terrorist, Twitter works as a way to sell books and promote movies. It works as a way to crowdsource terrorism and sell murder. Troubled souls with unmoored people seeking meaning in their life who have had trouble with drugs, families, the criminal justice system are seeking some centering in their lives. All of sudden buzzing in their pockets is a final battle between good and evil on God's side

1:57:10 Either if you come to the caliphate or kill in our name on the spectrum between consuming this poison and acting on these poisons. They are told, come or kill now! And so that investment in that social media began to pay dividends especially this spring I will kill where I am. I wil try to kill people in law enforcement. I'm going to go kill the boys in blue, crowdsourcing of terrorism, the traveler challenge. Kill where they are the radicalizing challenge. So this is a hydro-headed monster that we face. When someone is consuming that poison in the privacy of their own home and confronting this hydro headed monster, who is a live one they will begin a Twitter direct messaging contact They move them from Twitter direct messaging which we can get access to with lawful process To a mobile messaging app That is end-to-end encrypted The needle that we have been searching A nationwide haystack to find That is gobbledygook The most dangerous manifestation Of their radicalization

1:58:04 The Going Dark Challenge. And we have a search warrant, we cannot unlock that device That is the data at rest problem BAM! Wow. You should just do that from now on! With Comey, for sure the guy is fantastic and I still understood what he was saying Yes...I did too you didn't need the rest of it I like the tumor of terrorism The tumor of terror is fantastic They got him written down a lot of them The hydro-headed monster Date at rest Marry cum or kill Losing in your pocket Sell murder Chaotic spider web yeah, I was a kid would be the spider drunk. I mean ever see this chaotic spider web actually have Apparently they give they used to there was his test where they gave spiders LSD Nice and the spider web was just chaotic. I don't know well Twitter is a chaotic spider Web of fear and terror Bob

1:59:01 Yeah, so that is meant to Scare people yes But it's done what I like his metaphors his metaphors are great. Yeah, I've been admiring him more and more over time I think he's better than Mueller right Right oh He had a lot I took those I hit a lot of underneath his breath Which is really strange when you look at the waveform on the audio? It's pretty loud Right he'll just be talking all right And they'll keep going right And but still on the way, it's some guttural so it doesn't have the presence. But the volume is there It's very very subtle that he does

1:59:38 And then CNN, just staying on the caliphate and being afraid and everyone freaking out. They highlighted Rita Katz for all of her work. Oh God! With its animations slick edits and high-def images the video narrated in English with an American sounding voice glorifies ISIS and taunts America The video, entitled No Respite is a fresh ISIS release making reference to its new enemy Russia. The production quality consistently reflecting what analysts say is a sophistication never seen before. They're the gold standard of terrorist groups when it comes to propaganda

2:00:19 A US counter-terrorism official says with videos like these, ISIS has brought its brutality to the smartphone in your pocket. See this is all part of the same meme, the same narrative. Buzz in your pocket, the smartphone in your pocket it's coordinated In another recent video, ISIS fighters wearing GoPro cameras move around a compound in Yemen shooting people including some trying to hide which you don't see in the video but okay The visual similarities to the American video game Call of Duty are striking. They know perfectly their audiences and they're talking to them in the same language. Researcher Javier Lasaca, who's analyzed hundreds of ISIS videos says one of the intended audiences young hardline Islamist Muslim men yearning to be heroes but experts say the West is another important target audience One is us it's clickbait

2:01:08 You know, it's stuff that gets us upset and angry or scandalized. The Washington Post recently interviewed ISIS defectors who made videos they said some beheadings and battle scenes are staged to the point where jihadists perform multiple takes like actors and read from cue cards Like actors? It really looks that some battles are designed or even some suicide attacks are designed not only for for a military target or for an operative target, but especially to be recorded and distributed through social media.

2:01:44 Commanding ISIS's army of videographers and editors, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani. Now they have an army of videographers and editors now? An army a true Army the group spokesman said to be so important to ISIS that he holds a position just under its leader Why did we kill the CFO then? We should be going after this guy if he is so important The leader of media revolution, Bakr Al Baghdadi He is the guy who was chosen by ISIS to do battle with Zawahiri when they had the big you know, dogfight in early 2014 about who was right ISIS or Al-Qaeda. Okay! Mohammed Abu al-Adnani has given several audio statements for ISIS but despite being a spokesman for the group he usually avoids appearing in any of these videos analyst Javier Lasaca says that's probably for his own security al-adnani got a five million dollar US bounty on its head and western forces have already taken out several top ISIS media operatives like Junaid Hussain and jihadi John. Bah... so well gee

2:02:45 You telling me those videos are faked? They finally slipped that information back into the mainstream. We already knew that, we knew that! We're all over that bro. I mean after they did their job of scaring the crap out everybody. Oh it was the funniest thing. Feeble minded that is. I'll let you do something before i move on to a new topic Well, I was thinking something that would be worthwhile would be to thank some people. Really? Before you go into a new topic... No no no! But instead... I got the Viagra clip. Okay?! I just want to play this clip. This is the new thing going on if you listen to liberals. Play the Diagra...this is on Democracy Now!, the Viagra clip

2:03:43 A South Carolina state lawmaker has prefiled a bill restricting access to Viagra and other erectile dysfunction medications for men in order to make a point about increasing restrictions on women's reproductive rights. The bill requires men seeking Viagra to undergo a 24-hour waiting period, submit a notarized affidavit from a sexual partner, be examined by a state licensed sexual therapist therapists and attend outpatient counseling sessions. South Carolina State Representative Mia McLeod said she made the bill as complex as possible in order to prove a point about restrictions on abortion

2:04:20 I purposely tried to make it as invasive, as intrusive, as hypocritical and unnecessary as possible. To make a point. Similar attempts to restrict Viagra access in Ohio and other states have so far been unsuccessful. And no kidding! What an idiot. Well, here's another one of these false comparisons which is this kind of thing... But also why are you tying up the process to make a point? Oh brother! Yeah well yeah I don't know man i see all those women on the Viagra commercials they look pretty happy to me

2:04:58 Don't you think those would know I think those women on all of them. He said there was one that was kind of I think they're all creepy They're almost like they come out they'd like predators Take your bag because this is what's gonna put up with a very predator creepy I'm always taken aback when I see one of those commercials are very it plays to every single fear any man has and You know, this vivacious aggressive sexual woman who's just... No wonder they can't get it off. I mean you're creeping me out baby! Step back a little bit. Yeah yeah yeah. Back off!

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2:18:38 Well... British... The British Medical Journal. Is this a, this seems to be a very uh, seems to be a real outfit, a proper outfit. Well they did a I think it's meant tongue-in-cheek?

2:19:29 And the news broke first in the Netherlands that is due to Bastiaan R. Bloem, professor of movement disorder neurology who was part of this... Are you yawning? I'm telling you again i'm gonna have to stop the show for a second and tell you something because it's something I'd be concerned about Because nobody knows really what happened and I'll tell you that just could creep into the show It may cloud my judgment So I'm watching doing clips last night And John Kerry's comes on. Yeah, and I don't know what it was but probably listening to him. It does this is for something I could pull off from this. I conked out. Oh yeah, boom out like a light listening to John Kerry. Yeah, it can happen anybody but I don't know what he said that may have gotten into my subconscious mind

2:20:21 And it's also left me kind of sleepy. So are there trigger words that I use? I'm yawning all the time, and it's like... Are there trigger words that make it happen? No no! There was-I was just not cold by this guy's boring... He is a hypnotic speaker, I didn't realize it. Very slow, boring guy knocked me out and then I checked the clock Half hour. Oh my well, let's take it to the test either the 54 second clip of John Kerry Oh No Yes Now you let me know how you do he does say something interesting as the tide has turned He was over there in Russia talking to I wonder was he Russian? no He was there with Lavrov then he apparently spoke to Putin and they agreed on something very important as I emphasized today Are you asleep yet

2:21:11 No, but I can see it coming. The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change as it is known... Oh they're not seeking regime change as it is known? This may have been the clip that put me out because I remember this In Syria what we have said is that we don't believe that Assad himself has the ability to be able to lead the future Syria, but we didn't – you know, we focused today not on our differences about what can or can be done immediately about Assad. We focused on a process. On the political process.

2:21:51 whereby Syrians will be making decisions for the future of Syria. But we do believe that nobody should be forced to choose between a dictator and being plagued by terrorists. Terrorists! Our challenge remains creating the conditions on which an alternative can emerge." All right, let's check in with John... John? John? John?! Oh my god. We need to wake him up! STAT! This will get him out of it. It works every single time Let's see if we can bring him back to life Hello? Are you back, are you back? I'm pleasantly floating in the air Thinking of the wizard The wizard...I've been meaning to visit him Ah yes There is nothing like the sun and the blue stars

2:23:02 What am I wearing these shoes for? Okay. A long way to go for the Theremin joke, but i like it You like that theremin? I do! I do. I like it a lot So the Putin hit pieces are going on though so there we have John Kerry in case you fell asleep he was saying oh you know we don't really well we kind of worked on this and doesn't really know We'll figure something out with uh with the Russians He's bailed out on the idea Yeah yeah Bailed out so the British process now. It's only about process what does that even mean? The British Medical Journal now this this was their political science paper, it's not pure a horse noise It is a study they did The study is type of this is really on their website So it looks like it was a serious study and

2:23:58 Gunslinger's gait, G-A-I-T. A new cause of unilaterally reduced arm swinging and this was conducted in part by Bastian R Bloom professor from movement disorder neurology Here is the abstract objective to postulate a new possible cause of unilaterally reduced arm swing in addition to the known medical conditions such as shoulder pathology, Erb's palsy, stroke and Parkinson's disease. Methods of analysis Analysis of YouTube videos depicting the gait of highly ranked Russian officials Result

2:24:41 We found a similar walking pattern in President Vladimir Putin, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and three other highly ranked Russian officials all presenting with a consistently reduced arm swing in the absence of overt neurological abnormalities. Conclusions. We propose that this new gait pattern, which we term Gunslinger's Gait may result from a behavioral adaptation possibly triggered by KGB or other forms of weapons training where trainees are taught to keep their right hand close to the chest while walking allowing them to quickly draw a gun when faced with the foe This should be included in the differential diagnosis of a unilaterally reduced arm swing Are they serious about this?

2:25:25 Well, first of all. Of course we know it's a milieu and everybody picks up the patterns that are expressed within the milieu and they all kind of act like that when I was working with a bunch of police i was always perceived as a cop after a couple years in this And its just a milieu thing. That is how you can tell a hooker hangs out with other hookers But do hookers have a certain walk? Oh yeah! That's for sure, but that's beside the point. But Eddie Milieu has their idiosyncrasies that identify them as being part of the milieu. I remember once I went to Brazil and for some reason when I was there there was this big award ceremony for different companies it was like you know the yearly awards from this magazine for these different companies and they brought out its... They said so-and-so wins from Microsoft! And a guy comes out and I look at this guy and say holy crap this guy

2:26:26 Even though he's Brazilian, looks just like a guy from Microsoft. He's just Microsoft! They had a guy from... at the time this was well back they sold compact computers and that guy comes out looks like that. Guy comes out from some other company look the milieu, the corporate milieu is also very identifiable so you can always spot him Microsoft guys never surprises you did you ever work for Microsoft? No yeah I didn't And so this is what they're dealing with. So they're taking milieu observations and turning them into medical observations? This is nuts! Yep, and it's on the British Medical Journal. It's interesting you bring that up about Microsoft because I have gotten some inside info from people who are training here on the Apple campus to be in the store... Oh man!

2:27:17 These are Apple people? Yeah, so they go for several days of training first and it's very like camp happy. And I can't... They're training Apple employees in Austin? Oh yeah! They have a training center there? We have a campus. Apple?! For what!? Well, for awhile this is where they assembled the Mac Pro you know the round cylindrical thing which i don't think has done too well And we have two stores here, so there's like 140 employees that cover the two Apple stores here. There is a lot of stuff that I learned which I can't really divulge because you know there is a lot of secrecy and if anyone finds out what they've told about the training you're all going to die

2:28:07 But I did say, you know, do they have materials and quotes? And yeah. No signage, you know about yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. Well, as a visiting Apple a day keeps the bugs away now. Hold on a second. Let me just get my malt liquor though. I said how many when they quote like the history of the company and do they quote Steve Jobs? No Steve Jobs. Steve Wozniak? Yes, Steve Wozniak and Tom Collins but there's almost no jobs or none! No jobs quotes nothing about him about the history of the company interesting huh that is interesting yeah they're trying to expunge him

2:28:49 Probably. Wosniak gets all kinds of fuzzy, wuzzy quotes... Oh everybody loves Woz and that's the way to talk about a loving nickname. I got a note from our resident educator at The No Agenda Nation Sir Ryan Thompson. So I thought you'd be interested in the new civil rights movement that is beginning to creep its way into our schools especially among administrators who are tired of paying for expensive special ed programs this is called neurodiversity Neurodiversity essentially says that things like autism and other neurological disorders are not diseases or disorders at all. They are variations in how we as individuals are made, no different than differing hair color or physical features. As such neurodiversity proponents seek equal rights and protections for any and all unique individuals

2:29:43 Well, I agree with that. Yeah, you should be of all people should my Tourette's is is not crazy. I'm just neuro diverse. I like it to about time that could catch on? I think it could. But there's a wiki page for two so that's that's proof the neuro diversity give me a break. Well they're trying to make everything diversity Okay, let me see where okay. Okay? Let's take a little break yeah a break Yeah, I'm gonna add. I'm gonna. I'm going to Yeah, I am going to play which I haven't been doing enough on the show the native ad of the day Native Ad of the day does it need any setup or anything yes? I'm gonna set it up hold on The

2:30:39 As you know, in the C-block of the ABC News Nightly Report whatever they call it. ABC's with David Muir. They run a native ad of some sort or other and this one really got me because it was like wow! What else could you manage to get this information out to the public? Best way pay ABC to run this story To the index of other news, Chipotle implementing new food safety standards tonight after an E. coli outbreak in the Northwest and that norovirus outbreak in Boston. Chipotle says it will now scale back on local ingredients and will now cut wash and package ingredients like tomatoes cilantro lettuce in a central kitchen where they can be tested for contamination before being shipped out. They're really doing anything they can! That was a native ad Of course it was a native ad It was a beauty

2:31:40 seem like an educational story, something everyone needs to know. It's interesting you bring that up I rarely ever look at my Twitter timeline because i just have stuff incoming but Nilay Patel at Vox Media was so proud and we had a great year at Vox Media! And then when you see what he's pointing to... A whole list of their accomplishments This is your alternative media. Vox Media sings the praises of chorus, advertisers can now tap into native content platform! Vox Media launches entertainment division signs with Warner Music Entertainment Comcast invest 200 million in vox media Find vox on snapchat discover the agency view on vox media the modern-day conde Nast Yeah, nilai congratulations you're now mainstream media ya douche

2:32:39 You're nothing better than that Native ads and well what a platform. That's mainstream media now There's nothing to do with anything alternative never did they always kind of set it up that way for sure they did Well, not like us hmm Although they get 200 million from Comcast I can't even get a sample account Quick war on guns New York pretty strict gun laws, interesting change of events. We have very strict... I'm sorry go ahead go ahead we have very strict gun laws in California but yet we had the event yes so we have very strict gun laws in New York and here's how people think about them

2:33:23 Well, for the first time in more than 20 years a majority of Americans say they are against a ban on owning assault weapons. A new Washington Post ABC poll out just this morning found 53% of people surveyed are against banning the sale of assault weapons compare that to 1994 when only 18% opposed a ban now the poll shows people want assault weapons because they are not confident the government can stop so-called lone wolf attacks exactly I think this backfired. Of course it backfired! And Josh Earnest, you recall...oh this is ironic. It's tragic and ironic because I guess they expected exactly the opposite to happen. But then- This was the problem with trying to manipulate the public. Yeah. You can't do it. But then this next- Well you can't no sorry you can do but it's not easy. At this next report also from New York

2:34:15 I'm just trying to figure out the logic. Under pressure from New York's Attorney General, 30 online retailers who sell on Amazon have agreed to no longer offer some toy guns to New York residents A new york law prohibits the sale of those realistic toys in the state unless they feature a brightly colored tip to show they're not real But Attorney General Eric Schneiderman's office says the company still sold thousands of replica guns in the state in recent years. A similar gun was the one 12-year old Tamir Rice was holding when he was shot and killed by police in Cleveland under the deal with New York State, the retailers have paid $27,000 dollars in fines that is on top

2:35:00 100,000 some big box stores like Walmart Sears and Kmart paid in their deal with the state earlier this year. Those stores also agreed to stop selling those replica guns gun safety advocates say New York's campaign against realistic looking toy guns needs to be expanded nationwide that congress has chosen not to regulate this very pervasive and lethal consumer product is a great tragedy and shame. Lethal! Americans need to do something about it. Half-a-dozen states have laws on the books dealing with toy guns, another seven have introduced legislation to create or amend such laws. Yeah why can't you just go out and paint... Lethal? Yeah lethal of course paint the tip

2:35:46 of your Kalashnikov into the orange tip. You know, I've thought the same thing myself. It's stupid! Stupid Yeah, you're taking pain your collision to cover the orange thing at the end. I'm trying to understand You know no the logics is elusive true find a whole thing and this toy gun thing I'm glad you got that clip But that toy guns in they show that one of the guns are banning It's like a super space rape guys. You know some from Star Trek or something meanwhile The guys and gals were the real guns in believe this was in Iraq ash Carter Went there to deliver his Christmas message of cheer to the troops. We're here to say thank you and to say thank me to your family To say happy holidays, to bless you for what you're doing And I say that very much from my family in our hearts But I really do think I speak for everyone in America People know, not everybody is an expert at what they do Not everybody will have served

2:36:49 But overwhelmingly I think they get it. This has to be done, this fight has to be fought It's for civilization against evil Okay. Yeah brother Of course it's a fight that needs to be fought! It's for civilization against evil Yeah What an insult Insult People over there- kids don't know what the hell they're doing blowing up other kids in the sand. Stop all this, stop it! Would any... would please where's Gary Johnson? Would any candidate for United States President please just say why we're there that is for the interest of big oil companies and pipelines and turf and hookers it's always the same why are we there

2:37:41 Which brings me to this clip. This is the woman that showed around, it's kind of a viral thing that was on CNN and some very angry woman who is a Donald Trump supporter oh and she was just she was just And she had a meanest look on her face. I was like, oh my God! I wouldn't want to meet this woman but this is what she had to say This is the liar woman Liar woman on CNN We've been in positions of power for a fact are liars LIARS I watch the TV My president comes on the TV and he lies to me I know he's lying He lies all the time

2:38:21 I don't believe any one of them, not one. I believe Donald. Exactly! I'm telling you he says what i'm thinking. Never been involved in politics never had an interest in any of it now suddenly he is resonating with the people and speaking our minds when the pundits and the experts, and all the people who are supposed to be in the know. And know all this stuff! And they're so great!" I KNOW some of them... maybe not ALL but SOME OF THEM ARE LYING TO ME straight to my face. AND I AM SO SICK OF IT."

2:39:02 So the response to this woman was, oh my God. Is this the kind of people that are going to come out for Trump? They didn't do they've never been interested in politics before and then they go on and on lamenting this. And I'm thinking to myself everybody wants more participation not less. Mm hmm. And so you get more participation. She shows up but not we don't want her Right. Okay, well you get what you ask for I like the because i've been studying some antenna theory recently...I like it when she says they resonate or he resonates because that deals with frequencies and energy that is transferred these words are interesting um i'm i've been really engrossed in uh yeah well that's what antennas do they resonate that's what their job if they're if only if they're resonant

2:39:50 If they're tuned. Yes, if they are tuned properly to the frequency and then so you can be a good transmitter but if you are tuned to the same frequency as the receiver then you have a resonant scenario where the energy is passed through these words are not by accident And yeah that's how you do it and I agree I think Trump has started to resonate with a lot of people You don't need a lot of technology to be resonate You know, just have to be tuned properly. And then whatever comes out doesn't almost doesn't matter Yeah i'm working on it but It's a bigger thing I'm playing with this. Play the theremin! Why do you mock me when When I actually bring in some technical...I mean you get more technology on this show than any other tech horny show That's right I'M RESONATING

2:40:46 Meanwhile, Joe Johnson is trying to resonate with the American people. He has lifted a little tip of the veil of the new Homeland Security Alert system. People are anxious now. That's how you resonate! We've done it. Yeah we got him scared. They should know and they need to know what their government is doing to protect our homeland. Yes Tell now he's not going to tell you what we're doing, but he will tell you said are He did but he said homeland so I don't give him a pass our country would be okay our homeland nine It's time. We change the system and this is what we are doing in announcing today? We are creating an intermediate level To the end test system that includes now first of all I thought the NTAS system had been abolished But it was done away with the National Threat Assessment Act

2:41:45 Yeah, the code or whatever. So now we have an interim level which really means... An NTAS bulletin which describes general developments or trends regarding threats of terrorism We do this in public speeches, in public statements. We do this for law enforcement... Sometimes also known as propaganda my friend With joint intelligence bulletins we do this on a periodic basis there are news leaks anonymous sources News? Did he say news links or leaks

2:42:26 He said leaks. It sounded like leaks but news leaks? That's what he said! So they're propagandizing through news leaks is what... let me listen again because you say this will put this in speeches we put it in... but they're telling you what's going on We do this for law enforcement with joint intelligence bulletins, we do this on a periodic basis there are news leaks anonymous sources Wait a minute He's okay, so we're going to give you bulletin notices when he first clipped it I didn't hear the news leaks and then and now then he goes straight into anonymous sources Is he saying that that's how they they are going to scare us with news? Yes and anonymous sources. Yeah Holy crap regarding threats of terrorism We do this in public speeches in public statements. We do this for law enforcement

2:43:17 with joint intelligence bulletins. We do this on a periodic basis There are news leaks, anonymous sources from national security and law enforcement. Jesus! He's just admitting it! Excuse me didn't mean to take the Lord name in vain but he came down and made me say that We want to put in one place for the public to see what we are seeing concerning the homeland And what we're doing about it and what the public can do about it. We're at a new phase of global terrorist threat which has implications on the homeland particularly with the rise in use by terrorist groups of the internet to inspire and recruit. We are concerned about the self-radicalized actors

2:44:01 who could strike with little or no notice. Why does he have to use actors? It's confusing to people, there is no reason to say that you can say terrorists but they are terrorist actors it's like bad actors like shitty actors just revealing the truth They're not SAG you know they're not SAG yet These are scabs to inspire and recruit We are concerned about the self-radicalized actors who could strike with little or no notice As opposed to the actors who've received the script, I guess. Recent attacks and attempted attacks internationally and in the homeland warrant increased security as well as increased public vigilance and awareness

2:44:45 Though we know of no intelligence that is both specific and credible at this time. In other words, it's all bullcrap? Yeah in other words it's all bullcrap and I'm just yacking for no apparent reason But will do that with anonymous sources and leaks in the news media No intelligence that is both specific and credible at this time Of a plot by terrorist organizations to attack the homeland The reality is terrorist-inspired individuals have conducted or attempted to conduct attacks in the United States this year. DHS and the FBI are providing additional guidance to state and local partners on increased security measures. The public should expect an increased presence of law enforcement across communities in the weeks ahead

2:45:36 More stringent security should also be anticipated at public places and events. For the next six months they're going to be terrorizing you with this kind of bull crap, which started off almost immediately. Sunday night Twitter warned its users about a possible government-sponsored cyber attack fifth Which led to the leak of personal data for 21.5 million government employees In 2014, the US government sanctioned North Korea in response to the hack of Sony Pictures Entertainment The breach occurred prior to... What? Question Oh Speak up son I'm gonna just keep mumbling A couple questions Okay

2:46:37 Okay, if they notice a state-sponsored attack coming our way. What state? Do they ever tell us? No, they imply North Korea and China but of course they're really talking about the US State Second question... what phone numbers? Who puts their phone number on Twitter?! It's not in your profile, they don't ask for it. There is no place for phone number... Well this is a question I had and we have enough dudes named Ben and dudettes named Ben out there who can help me When you register for Signal which is the end-to-end encrypted You know No one can break it whatever all the intelligence guys are using app But you register with your phone number That is the only way for you to register

2:47:25 Now, you could use a burner phone I guess. Well here's another way to get around here. I'll throw this one out there. You can register using Google Phone voice, Google Voice. No! Why? Yes in America yes not outside of the US because text messaging doesn't go international That doesn't mean you can't get a google phone number outside the U.S., you just cant do texting Yeah, but that's how you register and then they send you a code to your phone To enter into the app to register. Okay? So there is a real transaction I don't think so. There are ways to do it. But if you have a landline... There is no way of getting text on a landline made out of Bakelite

2:48:12 All right. Now, after I slammed Neil Ion as a little Vox outfit there the Verge is part of that's part of Vox? The Verge? Oh yeah! That was one of the many elements They did do something very funny which i'll read it's under their TLDR heading which of course you know we have the omnibus bill the big huge budget bill which is now what at 1.5 trillion dollars Well, I if you want to play something is have a clip for well Let me tell you what they did first and then i'd love to hear your clip. They Counted the number of the times the word cyber Is used in the 2016 omnibus bill which is? I think is funny they did that And they came up with quite account

2:48:58 211 uses of the term cyber security but here's the full list in the omnibus bill Cyber security, cyber espionage, cyber threat indicators, cyberspace, cybercrime, cyber attack, cyber core scholarship program. Cyber incidents, cyber related work roles, cyberspace policy strategy, international cyber criminals malicious cyber command and control, cyber threat actors, cyber related functions, civilian cyber personnel office of the coordinator for cyber issues international cyber behavior and other cyber matters

2:49:37 What's this got to do with the budget? Well, all the money is going towards cyber as we've always predicted. Yeah we gotta get in on this scam Oh good yeah oh I think were late to the party I suppose they had, yeah probably. All right what's your you got a clip on the bill and i'm calling time so let's get out of here okay this would be the last clip for me all right this is the clip on the bill uh apparently the bill has everything everybody wants including the CISA Bill ah cyber information sharing agreement yeah it's they just slipped it in and there you go and there you have and that's our great congress you know then just you know they're just gonna keep doing stuff that they want to do whether the public likes or not

2:50:19 House Speaker Paul Ryan has announced a deal on a $1.1 trillion spending bill and a package of massive tax breaks Democrats say will unfairly benefit corporations The deal would lift the 40-year ban on crude oil exports from the United States, extend tax breaks for wind and solar energy And delay portions of President Obama's signature health care law Privacy advocates have objected to the inclusion of a controversial cyber security bill. They say will quietly expand mass surveillance by allowing corporations to share sensitive user data with law enforcement agencies. Woohoo! Yep, I'm all looking forward to that Yeah there you go there you have it that's the crux of the matter That's right It's all cyber Cyber Cyber

2:51:11 Alright, any games I need to watch today? Oh there's no game on Thursday. There is a Thursday night game. It's not- alright Okay, I think that's it. I think so too we're coming in under three hours That's what we're supposed to do yeah five minutes left Well there is about five minutes left with our end of show obviously I Always try to put together little ditty for you all at the end to leave you with a nice nice happy feeling So please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA, thank you for your support continue to bring that to the par-tay! I'm coming to you from downtown Austin in the capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody...I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I am over by the mudflats, I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Adios mofos Obviously things went wrong we're talking about Texas

2:52:28 Somebody somewhere wants enough cocaine to forget they live there. I've been watching you! No, no, no, no, no... Come on where was it? Hey listen, I love you Seth! Great question That's not a great question! Boom shakalaka Yes the beaches are back open woohoo yeah As a general rule i am just fine with a few hecklers But not when I'm up in the house. No, no, no... Hey! Can we have this person move please? Can we escort this person out? Come on. And what's on his map? Take a look at the map. I am shocked to find bug eating going on in here As a general rule, I am just fine with drinking the booze. Hold on a second. And drinking the booze. No, no, no

2:53:43 No, no, hey! No, no, no. Listen... And drinking the booze! It's not respectful when you get invited to somebody... I know that's right. You're not going to get a good response from me by interrupting like this. I'm sorry

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2:55:06 so Get up in the morning, hit the ground running It's a media assassination Take off the pieces, tear them apart Send it out to every nation Don't wanna sit back, don't wanna shut up And let the puppets call the show No more mainstream pumping out the new me Tell me where I should go It's a little bit crackpot Tiny bit buzzkill It hits you right in the mouth Do it now! There's nothing better when it's in the morning Watching a puppet show from up on the hilltop As the whirlybirds pass by Same old history, switching off the TV Tuning in and watching the sky It's a little tiny bit buzzkill It hits you right in the mouth Time to do it now I wanna do it now

2:56:22 It's nothing better when it's time to do it now. I want to do it now. There's nothing better when it's in the morning. Hey, citizens? Amen. His phone. Time to do it now-now. Nothing better when it's in the mornin', mornin'. There's nothin' to it now. Get your agenda in the mornin'.

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