Episode 552 • • 47:07 - 49:54
552: Almost Certain = Fact!
Bulk Records Collection and Personal Privacy Opt-Out
Senator Tom Udall asks General Keith Alexander if there are upper limits on telephone record collection and if the goal is to collect all American records. Alexander's response confirms the authority to collect various types of bulk records. In response to these revelations, one host describes "opting out" of the surveillance state by using an older iPod Touch with Wi-Fi instead of a standard cellular phone.